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[01:28] limewire for example makes lots of money [01:29] yet the code is GPLed [01:30] http://www.info.com.ph/~cyberray/sponsor.html this fancy guy figured it out and if giving out free limeiwre pros [01:30] he has the beta version wich is nice [01:31] its very smart [01:55] anyone wanna see how my sister cooks [01:59] Uh, maybe? Why? === Jester456 [i=Jester45@d17-252.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === Jester456 is now known as Jester45 === bigfuzzyjesus [n=bigfuzzy@unaffiliated/bigfuzzyjesus] has joined #xubuntu === xoanan [n=xoanan@c-68-54-225-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === xoanan [n=xoanan@c-68-54-225-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Naughtyboy is now known as naughty-ZZzzZz [02:54] /join #ubuntu [02:56] Jester45: minus space? [02:58] typo [02:58] rgr === neuton [n=dave@ool-4356aaf6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #XUbuntu [03:02] hello all [03:02] hi hi [03:02] I am new to XUbuntu [03:02] neuton: welcome :) [03:03] I was wondering how do I access my windows partition so I can listen to my music? [03:03] Thank You Maxamillion [03:03] neuton: mount it [03:03] your welcome [03:03] I tried to but it says it set to root only and can't access it? [03:04] which program or command do I use to mount it to access it? === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.220.158.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:05] neuton: sudo [03:05] I went under disk-admin and enabled the partition but still can't get into them? [03:05] !sudo | neuton [03:05] neuton: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. [03:06] neuton: sudo basically means "admin with 'root privilages'" [03:06] ok so I use sudo in a terminal,but what command do I use to mount the partition [03:07] neuton: that all depends on where the partition is ... you might even have to add a path to /etc/fstab .... === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-237-45-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [03:07] neuton: open a terminal and type "cat /etc/fstab" and then pastebin the results and we can go from there [03:08] # [03:08] proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 [03:08] /dev/hdb1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [03:08] /dev/hdb5 none swap sw 0 0 [03:08] /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [03:08] neuton: pastebin please [03:08] neuton: next time you will be kicked for flood [03:08] it looks like it doesnt show the other harddrive,I am using WinXP [03:08] !pastebin | neuton [03:08] neuton: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [03:09] ohh sry,how do I paste bin? [03:09] oh ok TY [03:09] neuton: no problem [03:09] neuton: it doesn't appear to see the other partition .... uhmmm, just a moment [03:11] when I use the pastebin,do I copy the url and paste it here for you guys to see? [03:11] neuton: do "cat /proc/partitions" in the command line and see if there is a partition mentioned other than the ones in the /etc/fstab [03:12] yes it shows my hda1 [03:12] I will paste it for u [03:12] ok [03:13] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14652/ [03:13] thanks [03:14] np ty you [03:15] neuton: ok, do "sudo mkdir /media/windowsPartition" [03:16] ok [03:16] neuton: and then do "sudo nano /etc/fstab" and add "/dev/hda1 /media/windowsPartition ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1" to the end of that file [03:17] neuton: all that should be on one line [03:18] are those commas or periods? [03:18] neuton: then do ctrl+o to save, and ctrl+x to exit [03:19] neuton: commas [03:21] ok it gave me the fstab file and then I did the save and exit,but I only saw the old info there is that correct? [03:21] do the changes show next time [03:21] wait ... what? [03:21] lol [03:22] when I hit the enter after typing what you wrote,it shoed the fstab but only with the info from before it was not showing the changes to it [03:23] neuton: that's probably just left over from when you did "cat /etc/fstab" in the terminal [03:23] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14655/ [03:23] neuton: do "cat /etc/fstab" again to make sure your changes are there [03:23] this might be easier to understand [03:24] it is the fstab after I did what you suggested to do [03:24] yeah, it shouldn't print the file after you edit it [03:24] I did not use the " at all, did i HAVE TO USE THOSE ALSO [03:25] sry for caps [03:25] no, you didn't [03:26] so no " [03:27] no [03:27] ok [03:27] you sure you did ctrl+o to save it? [03:28] yes,I will try it again [03:28] neuton: ok [03:28] if I am set to root I don't need to use the sudo before nano correct === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.220.158.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:32] neuton: correct [03:32] Maximillion, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14656/ this is what it looks like after I type the info you gave me and hit enter, this is showing before I save the changes === tripppy [i=polarisx@c220-237-67-224.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [03:37] when I hit ctrl 0 it only saves the first part then when I hit ctrl x it goes on to the next part like and [03:37] neuton: yeah, you're not doing something right .... just do "mousepad /etc/fstab" and edit it in mousepad and save === icicled [n=icicled@adsl-209-30-163-245.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:37] it is like it is saving it all in different files instead of the fstab one [03:37] neuton: no, not ctrl+zero ... ctrl+o as in write "out" [03:37] sry I meant to type O [03:38] let me try the mousepad way then [03:38] k [03:39] it gave me a warning GTK-Warning can not open display [03:39] I should of said that I installed this version from xubuntu live cd [03:39] ok, do "gksu mousepad /etc/fstab" [03:40] neuton: shouldn't matter how it was installed [03:40] 1 sec brb [03:40] k [03:42] ok back [03:45] sry my sister was being a pain lol [03:45] the error says mousepad:5354 [03:45] then the error [03:46] .... [03:46] neuton: get out of root [03:46] neuton: and then do "gksudo mousepad /etc/fstab" [03:46] root in *buntu's generally causes problems [03:46] ok I was doing it under root in the terminal [03:47] ok now where do I place the info? [03:47] just add it as its own line at the bottom of the file [03:48] ok === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [03:50] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14659/ [03:50] here is what it looks like now Max [03:50] k [03:51] neuton: now type "sudo mount /dev/hda1" [03:51] under root [03:51] neuton: no [03:52] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14660/ [03:52] look at this [03:53] ok, did you hit enter at the end of the line you wrote? [03:54] apparently mount is looking for a carriage return and claims there isn't one, and thus probably isn't reading in the line that has information about the hda1 [03:54] ok let me fix it then [03:54] k [03:55] now it says it cant find dev/hda1 in fstab or mtab [03:57] neuton: "sudo mount /dev/hda1/" ? [03:57] ok no error now === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [03:58] neuton: ok, now open thunar and click on file system and then navigate to /media/windowsPartition and everything should be there [03:59] oh man you are a life saver ty so much [04:00] now do you know how to add the flash player to firefox for certain websites :) [04:00] I tried to install but it failed so I need to do a manual install [04:01] neuton: www.ubuntuguide.org <-- its on there among alot of other things, just keep in mind that since that guide is for ubuntu which uses gnome, you won't have gedit installed and need to use mousepad in its place since mousepad is the default text editor for xfce and thus, xubuntu [04:01] neuton: enjoy :) [04:02] Again Thank You so much for the help and advice I appreciate it alot [04:03] neuton: anytime, that's what we are here for :) === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-178-111.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:30] argh [04:30] none of you would happen to know the key stroke for getting into BIOS for an emonster would you? === neuton [n=dave@ool-4356aaf6.dyn.optonline.net] has left #XUbuntu [] [04:48] BFTD: either DEL or F2 [04:49] it was F8 [04:50] that's strange ... F8 is normally windows safe mode [04:51] yes...quite [04:51] which screws everything up [04:51] yeah, i would imagine so === crdlb [n=crdlb@pool-70-104-179-241.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p3160-ipbf1007marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu === `Orum [n=Jacob@FALCON.ACM.WPI.EDU] has joined #xubuntu [05:07] <`Orum> there an easy way to build a custom linux kernel for xubuntu? [05:11] `Orum: not any easier than on debian or ubuntu, but even that has plenty of documentation and shouldn't be hard [05:12] <`Orum> k...what packages do you need? [05:13] `Orum: http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_kernel_2.6_compile_debian === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-22-225-51.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:13] <`Orum> thanks :) [05:19] hello all. =) [05:19] Pumpernickel: you around? === Koji-Murasame [n=nick@74-131-39-113.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu === nonuda [n=nonuda@61.94.130.115] has joined #xubuntu === Koji-Murasame [n=nick@74-131-39-113.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #xubuntu [] === jikuty [i=em@CPE001195752c87-CM00111ade8af2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc is now known as j1mc|away [05:52] <`Orum> where is the default xubuntu kernel config stored? [05:54] /boot/config-$(uname -r) [05:55] <`Orum> thx === nonuda_ [n=nonuda@61.94.130.153] has joined #xubuntu === Chili [n=scott-li@pool-70-104-101-111.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:00] So I've just recently installed xubuntu, any good place to start to get all the media codecs and what not that I'll need? [06:02] !restricted > Chili === `Orum [n=Jacob@FALCON.ACM.WPI.EDU] has left #xubuntu [] === OGDA [n=Thomas@unaffiliated/bftd] has joined #xubuntu [06:14] Rhythmbox work on Xubuntu? [06:15] Chili, yes [06:16] hrm, well I got my E-monster up and running [06:16] Okay, thanks. === snarfer [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/snarfer] has joined #xubuntu [06:19] Hi, I'm in the Xubntu livecd now. I was wondering if there were a way I can install Xubntu while in the livecd, but without ubiquity [06:19] ubiquity has iissues [06:20] Anyone? [06:23] snarfer: there isn't an option on the live cd for package selection [06:23] click the "install" icon on the desktop? [06:23] oh i see [06:27] Hmm, I downloaded a desktop theme, but I can't paste it in the themes directory, do I have to log in with root access or what...I'm completely new to this whole xubuntu thing. [06:28] Chili: you have to create a .themes directory in your home dir and unpack themes there === __Serge__ [i=ircap@pc-145-238-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:29] <__Serge__> Hi [06:29] <__Serge__> i have a question... [06:29] <__Serge__> Which are the minimum requirements to have xubuntu on your pc?? (RAM, CPU, HD...) [06:30] <__Serge__> ? [06:30] <__Serge__> please? [06:31] __Serge__: http://www.xubuntu.org/get [06:32] Maxamillion: could I not just paste the them into /usr/share/themes? === Chili [n=scott-li@pool-70-104-101-111.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Chili [n=scott-li@pool-70-104-101-111.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:34] Hmm, sorry max, could I not just paste it to /usr/share/themes? [06:36] Chili: uhmmm... yeah, that'll work too but you will have to do it as a sudo user [06:36] yeah, sudo thunar right? [06:36] Chili: gksudo thunar [06:37] whats the gk? O.o [06:37] Chili: if you are going to launch a gui application with sudo privilages, use gksudo instead of sudo [06:37] !gksudo [06:37] If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo [06:37] :) [06:37] !botsnack [06:37] Yum! [06:37] okay, maybe thats why my UI pref just froze? [06:37] haha [06:37] Chili: possibly ... not sure [06:38] <__Serge__> Can i have winXP and wubuntu in the same pc? [06:38] __Serge__: yeah, without a problem [06:39] <__Serge__> how do i do that if i already have winXP on the computer? [06:39] Btw, thanks max, I didn't know about the gksudo thing. [06:39] You can use gparted to partition the drive, works like magic. [06:40] !dualboot | __Serge__ [06:40] __Serge__: Dual boot instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh) [06:40] !botsnack [06:40] ....? [06:40] Yum! [06:40] lol ... lag [06:41] <__Serge__> all rite.... thx for the info [06:41] <__Serge__> : ) [06:41] anytime :) [06:42] Anyway to end a process w/o knowing what its name is in the process manager? [06:42] If its froze that is. [06:43] Chili: is it graphical? [06:43] yeah [06:43] <__Serge__> 1 more thing [06:43] <__Serge__> do i have to use some tool first? like magit partition? [06:44] <__Serge__> or xubuntu is eniugh? [06:44] <__Serge__> enough [06:44] Chili: just use ctrl+alt+esc ... that does what they call "xkill", it will make your cursor a skull and cross bones and then you just click on what you want to kill [06:44] thanks. [06:44] __Serge__: the installer has a partitioner in it [06:44] Chili: np [06:44] <__Serge__> nice... [06:44] <__Serge__> and... [06:44] <__Serge__> you know [06:45] <__Serge__> this is my first (well, my second) aproachig to linux and ubuntu [06:45] <__Serge__> i'd like to know === tripppy [i=polarisx@c220-237-67-224.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [06:46] <__Serge__> those squares at the right-down corner... [06:46] <__Serge__> what does they mean? [06:46] <__Serge__> what do they represent? === corevette_ [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-192-230.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === coldsteal [n=phlak@user-0cdvhie.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:47] __Serge__: those are "virtual desktops" ... open some applications and then click on one of the squares to the right, everything will disappear ... then click back on the one on the far right [06:47] __Serge__: or you can do ctrl+right-arrow ... or ctrl+left-arrow [06:47] i cannot 6.10 live cd to boot === bigfuzzyjesus [n=bigfuzzy@unaffiliated/bigfuzzyjesus] has joined #xubuntu [06:48] it does evrything but it never loads xfce [06:48] evan in safe graphics mode [06:48] coldsteal: ah, sounds like your X server died ... you have a nvidia graphics card? [06:48] im on a laptop [06:48] <__Serge__> oh... nice [06:48] coldsteal: oh ... even in safe graphics mode? [06:48] __Serge__: :) === gar1 [n=grcrosby@d216-232-173-250.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:49] ya it wont work in safe grafixs mode eather [06:49] <__Serge__> you know, my first aproaching to linux was with ubuntu 5.04... i HATED IT [06:49] coldsteal have you tried the alt cd? [06:49] __Serge__: we have come a long way since [06:49] <__Serge__> is xubuntu easier to install? easier to use? [06:49] alt cd? === gar1 [n=grcrosby@d216-232-173-250.bchsia.telus.net] has left #xubuntu [] [06:49] __Serge__: depends on what you want from a desktop environment [06:49] __Serge__: xubuntu is just with xfce [06:50] __Serge__: some users find kubuntu easier than ubunutu, otherse find the opposite .. and then those of us who prefer xubuntu [06:50] coldsteal: not entirely, but thats the base idea [06:50] __Serge__: xfce is faster than kde for shure [06:50] i have a dapperdrake server install cd [06:50] <__Serge__> what i want is a OS that, for example, recognize the there are 2 USB ports on the pc (ubuntu 5.04 didn't...) [06:50] its the lamp one === mdib [n=grcrosby@d216-232-173-250.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:51] __Serge__: both xubuntu and ubuntu will do that flawlessly [06:51] __Serge__: 5.04 was a while ago [06:51] yeah ... loooong while, ALOT has happened since then [06:51] like new kernels [06:51] <__Serge__> it's very nice to hear (i mean, read) that... : ) [06:51] does xubuntu have an alt cd? [06:51] __Serge__: i have my sister using xubuntu [06:52] <__Serge__> lol... [06:52] __Serge__: she loves it === nanousr [n=nanousr@c-67-172-216-15.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:52] <__Serge__> i have another question [06:52] corevette_: yes [06:52] whats an alt cd? [06:52] alternitave cd [06:52] ? [06:52] corevette_: www.xubuntu.org/get [06:53] <__Serge__> someone told me that ubuntu uses .deb instead of .exe... it's true? [06:53] whats the diff [06:53] lol __Serge__ yes [06:53] its linux [06:53] its based on debian [06:53] coldsteal: its a text based installation cd, for machines without the power for the live cd install or just for people who prefer a little more control over the installation process [06:53] exe is for windows [06:53] <__Serge__> then how do i install programs with .exe??? like winamp?? [06:53] u dont [06:54] u can do thingng like wine [06:54] but there are alternatives to windows apps [06:54] <__Serge__> and if i compile a program in gcc... it will generate a .deb? [06:54] __Serge__: no [06:54] coldsteal: when i installed ubuntu for the first time, the main cd would not boot up...so downloaded/installed using the alt cd and it worked [06:54] no [06:54] <__Serge__> then what will happen? [06:55] u get a compiled app [06:55] __Serge__: it will generate a linux ELF binary files [06:55] lol then u can exicut it [06:55] file* [06:55] <__Serge__> ELF????????????? [06:55] coldsteal: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/xubuntu/6.10/release/ about halfway down (this is for edgy assuming you want that) [06:55] !elf [06:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about elf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:55] <__Serge__> that's new for me... : p [06:55] bah! [06:55] So, I just came to the realization that I love xubuntu. [06:56] __Serge__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executable_and_Linkable_Format [06:56] <__Serge__> so, if i make teh famous "hello world" program in xubuntu... [06:56] <__Serge__> i will get, for example, hello.elf? [06:57] __Serge__: no === easye [n=tebow@ip72-209-73-107.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:57] hello.c or .o [06:57] i dont remember [06:57] __Serge__: you will just get hello [06:57] hello all [06:57] __Serge__: and hello will be executable [06:57] easye: hello [06:57] <__Serge__> aaahhh... i see... [06:57] <__Serge__> ok, i got it... [06:57] <__Serge__> another thing [06:57] I got a problem, and Im not afraid to state it [06:58] <__Serge__> what about xubuntu and viruses? [06:58] <__Serge__> it is true that linux is invulnerable? [06:58] xubuntu, the desktop has no group select feature! is this normal? [06:58] __Serge__: no thing is invulnerable [06:58] <__Serge__> you're right [06:58] <__Serge__> but i mean [06:59] it all depend on ur services [06:59] <__Serge__> at least more invunerable that windows? [06:59] <__Serge__> than [06:59] such as if u run a vunerable apache [06:59] hell ya it way more secure than windows [06:59] you can hit the weak point for massive damage [06:59] <__Serge__> the question is: if i use xubuntu, do i need an antivirus? [06:59] __Serge__: no, you don't [07:00] nno proby not [07:00] <__Serge__> really??? [07:00] <__Serge__> coooool!! [07:00] i dont have it on any machines [07:00] __Serge__: you might want a firewall, but you just install "firestarter" from synaptic [07:00] u can if u want tho === livinded [n=livinded@cpe-24-24-186-88.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:00] all you need, is to make fun of people who run windows, thats the only real maintenence === maxamillion has only ever heard of 1 anti-virus application for linux [07:00] easye: lol [07:00] <__Serge__> LOL... : p [07:01] have you guys seen this planet earth show [07:01] <__Serge__> but u said linux is not invulnerable... then, there are viruses that can affect it? [07:01] well that and you have to install beryl or compiz if atleast for nothing else to make the Vista noobs realize how old and unoriginal their $400 OS is [07:01] its on discovery channel right now, and its freaking awesome [07:01] !virus | __Serge__ [07:01] __Serge__: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21 [07:01] __Serge__: no, nobody writes viruses for it [07:01] http://vfat.org/~tmp/full-network.html [07:01] look at that __Serge__ [07:02] <__Serge__> okay [07:02] thats my internal network [07:02] __Serge__: vulnerability isn't about viruses explicitly, it generally has more to do with hackers [07:02] <__Serge__> ahhh... hackers, yeah... [07:02] 192.168.1.3 is freebsd [07:02] coldsteal: nice! :) [07:02] <__Serge__> but i don't care if someone looks my HD... [07:02] them evil hackers are the cause of all out problems [07:02] __Serge__: yeah, me either ... i don't have anything that important [07:02] for anyone who uses xubuntu: does the desktop normally have a group select feature? Because I can only click on single objects on the desktop [07:02] lol yes livinded [07:03] <__Serge__> so, i only need a firewall then.. [07:03] <__Serge__> and not an antivirus [07:03] ya [07:03] easye: ctrl-click? [07:03] <__Serge__> right? [07:03] basickly [07:03] easye: It's kind of limited that way. [07:03] !firewall | __Serge__ [07:03] __Serge__: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE). [07:03] easye: you can select more than 1 with shift or ctrl keys ... but not click and drag with the mouse [07:03] or u can use shorewall [07:03] i like shorewall [07:03] maxamillion and __Serge__ I hate to break it to you, but I don't think hackers are interested in your kiddy pr0n they care more about using your boxes as proxies, storage, or to launch attacks [07:03] hmm.. is that a resource saving feature of XFCE? [07:04] <__Serge__> shorewall? whats that? === mode/#xubuntu [+o maxamillion] by ChanServ [07:04] thanks though, I keep thinking Its broken. [07:04] its a front end to iptales [07:04] *iptables === livinded was kicked off #xubuntu by maxamillion (mention of kiddy porn will not be tollerated in my channel, we keep things family friendly... thank you) === mode/#xubuntu [-o maxamillion] by maxamillion [07:04] livinded: Yeh. The real profitability in hacks is advertisment or revenue generation through phishing. [07:05] Pumpernickel: sorry ... i just kicked him [07:05] maxamillion: That's okay - I just got here, so I dunno what he's been doing. [07:05] maxamillion: y did u kick him? [07:05] <__Serge__> but what is a shorewall? [07:05] Pumpernickel: he should be back, i didn't ban ... just don't like the talk or incinuation of kiddy port on users hard drives [07:06] __Serge__: you should google it :) [07:06] Argh, rhythmbox isn't recognizing my external with all my music on it, any ideas on how to solve? === livinded [n=livinded@cpe-24-24-186-88.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:06] <__Serge__> lol... ok... [07:06] <__Serge__> so, finally === x2180[laptop] [n=mike@adsl-76-195-116-48.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:06] <__Serge__> if i use xubuntu [07:06] <__Serge__> i don't need antivirus nor firewall? [07:06] <__Serge__> (firewall is included... right? [07:06] __Serge__: firewalls i recommend, antivirus would be pointless [07:06] atleast have a firewall [07:06] <__Serge__> ) [07:06] __Serge__: you don't need an anti-virus or firewall on windows either [07:07] <__Serge__> ok, which firewall 4 xubuntu do u recommend? [07:07] ya most of my boxes dont evan have x [07:07] iptables [07:07] __Serge__: technically, yes it is installed but not configured ... i recommend installing "firestarter", its a gui for configuring the iptables [07:07] <__Serge__> what is iptables??? [07:07] maxamillion: Yeh. We're not here to promote illegitimate or illegal uses of Xubuntu. [07:07] a firewall... [07:07] Or, really, any OS in general. [07:07] <__Serge__> (sorry, im a newbie... : ) [07:08] __Serge__: wikipedia teatches allot so does google [07:08] so do man pages... [07:08] Pumpernickel: ;) [07:08] <__Serge__> lol... ok, i'll investigate... [07:08] yes "man cmd" [07:08] Any idea how to get rhythmbox to recognize my external? [07:08] Pumpernickel: did you hear that jim had a dream you hacked his file server? [07:09] uh, no.... [07:09] I didn't, anyway, so that's cool. [07:09] What happened, though? [07:10] Pumpernickel: apparently you owned his file server in his dream and then he woke up in his dream and checked his logs and there were traces of you owning it .... he said it freaked him out when he actually woke up [07:11] wow [07:11] O.o [07:11] yeah ... thought it was funny myself [07:11] was it a windows box? [07:11] Yeh, hacking isn't really my thing. [07:12] I don't have the attention span for it. [07:12] (It takes a lot of effort to hack a Linux box of any variety, unless it's a honeypot.) [07:12] Pumpernickel: lol, me either .... actually my attention span problem is more or less why i learned python ... quick code and boom, you're off to doing constructive things :) [07:13] that and i'm generally lazy [07:13] heh, that's why I learned Bash :D [07:13] hah [07:13] Pumpernickel: not really, is depends on what you want to do, and how much access you have, how it's configured, and if it's admin has any sense of security [07:13] A couple lines of script and I've just earned my pay for the day. :) [07:13] bash is good to automate tasks, but i don't do much more with it then that [07:13] lol [07:13] livinded: True... but I work as a web dude, so my requirements from scripting are fairly simple. [07:13] yeah my boss is in the process of learning perl so he can ultimately be lazy [07:13] new question: where can i change the keyboard map settings. I checked all the obvious places, but the quote key is messed up === __Serge__ [i=ircap@pc-145-238-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has left #xubuntu [] [07:14] Pumpernickel: I was talking about the hacking, not scripting [07:14] basically, I have to hit the quote key twice for it to display a character [07:14] !keyboard | easye [07:14] easye: To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts [07:14] !botsnack [07:14] Yum! [07:14] thanks [07:14] livinded: That's a completely different league. For hacking... it would take me a couple weeks, at least, to get going, and I wouldn't even want to start. [07:15] Pumpernickel: you're a web guy, I assume you realize how simple some web attacks can be [07:15] It's too economically unviable for someone in a developped country. A couple lawsuits or three, and you're undone for life. [07:15] as if people get sued or hacking [07:15] well maybe when they do something insanely stupid, but still [07:16] livinded: Yeh. Mostly SQL injection, which isn't my job, but yeh.. I know how dangerous offering various internet services can be. [07:16] x2180[laptop] : you don't get sued, you get 4chan party vaned [07:16] there's more money in being constructive than there is in being destructive ... [07:16] lol [07:16] there's money in both actually [07:16] maxamillion: I don't know pentesting and consultation can bring in quite a bit of money [07:16] otherwise nobody would do neither [07:16] and as soon as i get out of college i am looking to make money :) [07:17] maxamillion: Exactly. It's easier to help my Uni than to hack some random corporation with lawyers on the payroll. === __Serge__ [i=ircap@pc-145-238-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:17] what does this mean !keyboard [07:17] So I thought I grabbed all the codecs that I needed...evidentally not...my vlc player has no sound and with avi's no video, where can I grab those codecs? [07:17] Chili: Depends on the codecs. What's the format? [07:17] livinded: yeah, actually that is very true now that you mention it ... there was a guy who came and did a presentation in one of my classes about digital forensics .... dude made $450k a year [07:17] <__Serge__> i almost forgot === BFTD [n=Commande@unaffiliated/bftd] has joined #xubuntu [07:18] Um, mp3, avi, wmv [07:18] So on and so forth. [07:18] Rhythmbox doesn't seem to be working either. [07:18] <__Serge__> if a have 2 OS on one computer: can i access ALL the files with each one? [07:18] Chili: install win32codecs [07:18] <__Serge__> or each other files? [07:18] easye: the '!' tells the bot i am talking to it and keyboard says "i want the info related to 'keyboard'" and | " means "tell the info" [07:18] as a programmer you'd be lucky to land a job making over $100k/year [07:18] thanks. oh, its an irc command. gotcha [07:18] !keyboard [07:18] To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts [07:19] <__Serge__> ? [07:19] <__Serge__> if a have 2 OS on one computer: can i access ALL the files on the HD with each one? [07:19] maxamillion: Forensics is a wicked job if you can get into it. Governments pay typical governmetn inflated amounts of money for data, if you have the skills to get it. [07:19] <__Serge__> or each other files? [07:19] __Serge__: access? .. yes, you will need to install an application on windows to access the files on linux and on linux you can access the files on windows you will need to install extra software to be able to manipulate the files on windows [07:19] neato [07:19] s/governmetn/government/ [07:19] __Serge__: yeah [07:19] <__Serge__> but how? [07:19] it's easier to do from linux than it is from windows, if that's what you're using [07:20] <__Serge__> yeah, i'll have winXP and xubuntu [07:20] if you're in linux, just mount your windows partition [07:20] x2180[laptop] : not really, as long as you're using ext2 or 3 it's no more difficult on windows than on linux [07:20] Pumpernickel: my university has a really good digital forensics department, but i looked at the course plan and its too much cyber law and now enough coding ... so i am going to shoot for a masters in comp sci instead of df [07:20] all you do is grab the driver and install [07:20] livinded: in linux, it's just a mount command [07:20] in windows, you have to install a driver first [07:20]