jthomaseilker what do you mean?  and can i fake it?12:12
jthomas(is anyone using Konversation that knows a great way to prepend user names without typing them before each comment in a conversation?)12:13
eilkeri am not surei just reading that script12:13
jthomaseilker yeah its a pain12:13
eilkerjthomas: use tab for it12:13
jthomaseilker: AWESOME12:13
jthomaseilker: THANKS12:13
jthomassaving me much headache with THAT one!12:14
jthomaseilker: i may play with it more later but i cannot right now12:14
eilkeryeah i looks like no support for ubuntu12:14
eilkeri use radmin in windows12:14
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eilkeryeah it is like pcanywhere12:15
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eilkerbut client cant know that u view his/her monitor12:15
eilkerand process on it12:15
eilkerit is legal not trojan12:15
jthomaseilker: i jut rebooted my work computer here into Windows and for some reason it cannot see my network; the client requires the use of pcAnywhere so i gotta figure it out one way or the other!  maybe tomorrow my Windows won't suck... yeah right...12:16
eilkerohh i see, good luck12:17
voidmageHow do i rip a dvd in k3b?12:17
LordOfHeatwhat to use for DVB-S viewing on kubuntu12:18
LordOfHeatother then kaffeine12:18
Yorokobi!info dvdrip | voidmage12:19
ubotuvoidmage: dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB12:19
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jthomasvoidmage: what version of k3b?  if its v1.0 or higher, its one of the menu options12:21
jthomasvoidmage: otherwise, get the program k9copy which is great12:21
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jthomasvoidmage: dvd::rip is a pain and you'll only get avi files or something, not a proper DVD12:21
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[Ag0ny] does anybody have some spare time to help me get my usb and 2nd display working?12:24
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jthomas[Ag0ny] : whats the problem?  and a 2nd monitor is a pain, you may have better luck browsing the forums where people's patience isn't so limited ;)12:28
[Ag0ny] heh I understand that12:28
[Ag0ny] I have a bit of a tricky laptop that i'm working with, an Averatec c350012:28
[Ag0ny] can't get USB nor 2nd monitor to work12:28
[Ag0ny] I have the older BIOS12:28
alphi_that has a basic linux usb key mounting walkthrough12:29
[Ag0ny] I know how to mount, the device isn't found12:29
jthomas[Ag0ny] : older BIOS might mean that USB is slow forever until you get a new hardware/motherboard12:29
jthomasor get an USB add-on card12:29
jthomasor does it not work at _all_ ?12:29
[Ag0ny] jthomas, the older bios are the only ones that will recognize USB at all12:29
[Ag0ny] not working at all12:29
[Ag0ny] as in not recognized12:29
[Ag0ny] nothing even at the kernel level12:30
jthomaswhat are you testing with?  mouse or keybd?12:30
[Ag0ny] mouse and thumbdrive12:30
jthomasit could also be physically broken/fried, or it may not be supported :(12:30
[Ag0ny] nope12:30
jthomashave you tried with a different linux, or with windows/osx?12:30
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[Ag0ny] used it on other installs on different boxes, same version of kubuntu12:31
jthomasbut this box == never? sure it works?12:31
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[Ag0ny] I'm positive it's an issue with not recognizing usb12:31
[Ag0ny] in windows the ports work fine12:31
jthomasreboot and then type <dmesg> and read the output to see if it discusses USB, or right now plug something in and run that command (in a konsole/terminal)12:32
jthomasthat tells what the kernel is doing12:32
jthomasif it mentions USB then the kernel sees it12:32
[Ag0ny] I know about dmesg12:32
jthomasor try booting with an older kernel when you get to Grub12:32
AdamKiliI had to install kubuntu 6.06 because 6.10 install wouldn't work. now how do I upgrade to 6.10? apt-get dist-upgrade isn't working12:33
HaSHLeeJunFan, if you are still around. earlier you said to edit ~/.bashrc and uncomment the lines to do with bash_completion ...i dont see anything to do with auto complete i there..or any of the ~/.bash* files.....am i missing somthing?12:33
[Ag0ny] and have tried and I can't find any messages about the usb12:33
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jthomas6.06 is the "LTS" and won't hae an upgrade until the next LTS release... but you could try with dist-upgrade after changing your /etc/apt/sources.list file... however I have heard BAD things about that upgrade...12:33
jthomasi don't know then...12:34
jthomasmaybe in Windows get an *.exe that upgrades the BIOS12:34
AdamKilinevermind I figured it out12:34
LeeJunFanHaSH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14775/12:34
jthomasget that from the motherboard manufacturer12:34
philphotohow do I unpack and install a .tgz file?12:34
LeeJunFanHaSH: look toward the bottom - line 7212:34
jthomasi have to go12:35
[Ag0ny] jthomas, don't have windows on here anymore12:35
YorokobiHaSH, you can copy the dist versions of the .bash* files from /etc/skel/.bash*12:35
[Ag0ny] peace12:35
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HaSHLeeJunFan, ok will do...my ~/.bashrc was like 10 lines12:35
jthomasAg0ny i don't know... no Windows is usually good! but for BIOS upgrades, not many people supply Linux progs... go look at the manuf website though12:35
jthomasgood luck, sorry!12:35
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LeeJunFanHaSH: you can replace it with that one - the one I pasted is a feisty default w/ the only change being bash_completion turned on.12:36
HaSHLeeJunFan, hmm im using edgy ...this wont affect me adversly?12:37
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LeeJunFanHaSH: it shouldn't. you could just mv ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc.bak then put mine in .bashrc and if it doesn't work well put your .bashrc.bak back in place.12:38
YorokobiHaSH, or cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~12:38
LeeJunFanHaSH: of course you'll have to open a new shell to see the difference after changing .bashrc12:38
HaSHyea thansk both of you fir ya help12:39
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moparisthebesthaha, the 7.04 upgrade just hosed my installation :P12:40
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jefftohi everybody12:51
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jefftoright now I'm having troubles with kubuntu edgy, I just install yesterday on my laptop and since today I'm getting this at start up time: bug soft lockup detected on cpu012:52
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jefftoHave someone an idea about hoe to fix it?12:52
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shrikrishnaWhat are some good KDE IMEs for Indian languages such as Marathi and Hindi?12:56
samoulHi i'm bored any body have something interesting to show me, so that i'm discovering something new? A nice program? A nice web site avec cool stuff of linux, kubuntu?12:57
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aseigoshrikrishna: IMEs?01:01
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shaggyoafhi, everybody01:01
shaggyoafif I apt-get source something01:01
shrikrishnaaseigo: A way to enter languages in English and Indian languages.01:01
shaggyoafis there an easy way to build a deb from it?01:01
shaggyoafthe Makefile doesn't seem to have a 'deb' target01:01
aseigoah... input method.01:02
jarnshaggyoaf: checkinstall01:02
jarnshaggyoaf: start compiling it like normal but then instead of doing 'make install' do 'checkinstall'01:02
aseigoshrikrishna: does that require multi-byte input? i thought it was just a keyboard mapping + proper ligature synthesis as you typed?01:02
shaggyoafwoah, what a sweet tool!01:02
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jarnHrm... if I see this when I type lspci "00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller (rev a1)" does that mean that I can use a SATA hd?01:04
moparisthebestcan someone help me recover my system after upgrading to 7.04 beta?01:04
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moparisthebest/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off01:04
moparisthebestis the error it freezes up on01:04
moparisthebestor right after that anyway01:05
moparisthebesteven when I try to boot into recovery mode it freezes up there01:05
moparisthebestso I don't even have a command line :(01:05
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moparisthebestcan someone help me recover my system after upgrading to 7.04 beta?01:10
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chijintry #ubuntu+101:10
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gemidjyI noticed the package beryl-kubuntu in latest feisty upgrade, but couldn't find any visual change, what does this package do anyway? (or ask@ #ubuntu+1?)01:11
sdlnxgkanyone know where I can find the package for xslt-config ??01:12
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carloshi! I have installed the packets apache2, php5 and libapache2-mod-php5, but I cannot see php documents properly :(01:13
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kgxcarlos: whats the problem?01:15
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MinceR!away > Kite_DH|away01:15
carloswhen I click on a .php kubuntu asks me how it must be opened01:17
carlosinstead opening it with firefox01:17
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dewprismhow do i make it so i dont have 24 bit colors and have 16bit or something windows compatible instead? >.>01:22
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dewprismm'kay then01:23
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alphi_this sounds like a dumb question i am sure, but how can i create a new folder in Konsole, as in what is the command to make a new folder01:27
dewprismgood question :|01:29
TheDebuggermkdir ninja01:29
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alphi_awesome, thanks01:30
TheDebugger( Will make a new folder called.. ninja)01:30
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alphi_i got that :)01:30
alphi_i just changed ninja to linux, so i could toss in some files to make rtai happy01:30
alphi_so that worked, now it wants efltk-config >.>01:31
alphi_to get real time driver things going i need comedi, to get comedi i need RTAI, to get RTAI i needed a fresh kernel, among all kinds of other things, i hope i am near the end of the list now though01:32
eutherI'm seeing KNetwork Manager failure to maintain input over reboot, though no difficulties on the standard Ubuntu partition (herd 5 installations + updates)01:33
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eutherwholly wired network, unlike the reports at bugs.ubuntu.com01:33
dauoalagio2hello is there a baseball for linux?01:33
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TheDebuggerWhy do you need rtai anyway?01:33
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alphi_to get comedi up01:34
TheDebuggerAnd what is comedi? :P01:34
alphi_i need to test some DAQ boards for functionality01:34
asoldierI'm having trouble navigating to the windows desktop path so I can execute a program on my windows desktop using wine01:34
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alphi_honestly i couldn't tell you, but from what i understand it makes driver writing much easier, i'll tell you once it works >.>01:35
carloshi! I have installed the packets apache2, php5 and libapache2-mod-php5, but I cannot see php documents properly :(01:35
carloswhen I click on a .php kubuntu asks me how it must be opened01:35
carlosinstead opening it with firefox01:35
dxdtNormally the special keys on the front of my laptop, that control sound, etc, work, but this time they don't.  I don't know why.  Anybody know a command or what program is in charge of that so I can kill it/ reopen it or whatever?01:35
dxdtI tried killing kmix already01:35
dxdtno go01:35
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misstrikj'adore !01:42
koyo001j'ai un probleme01:42
koyo001avec kubuntu01:42
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kgxcarlos: add the following line to httpd.conf01:44
kgxAddType application/x-httpd-php .php01:44
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carloslet me see...01:45
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HaSHcan someone give me an example of a /etc/fstab entry for a fat filesystem with read/write priv...im trying to add my ipod to it using uuid01:47
asoldierI've noticed that most of the programs I use aren't very compatible to WINE01:47
HaSHbut i only have reiserfs entrys01:47
koyo001does anyone know how to reset add remove01:48
HaSHasoldier, nope. not that many things work with wine. i find simple programs do01:48
asoldierHash : I find that anything using an advanced UIS or UIS2 or freeform skin environment or xml-based skin environment is not readily accepted by WINE01:49
HaSHyea . its hit or miss. what are you trying to use asoldier?01:50
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asoldierhash : I tried hamachi, http://voodoochat.com < chat client, MM Dreamweaver, Windows Media Player, etc.01:51
asoldierNone of which worked01:51
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carloskgx: i've added the line but it doesn't work... :(01:51
HaSHasoldier, use mplayer for wmp. chat client i use gaim and i *think* it may be possible to use dreamweaver01:52
HaSHif that helps ya out at all...01:52
asoldierI tried dreamweaver, but it simply isn't compatible.01:52
asoldierI believe there's a linux version of dreamweaver available anyway01:52
HaSHasoldier, ah. you can use vmware to install windows inside linux..01:53
asoldierI have a windows platform under the grub boot menu01:53
HaSHasoldier, there was. but it was blatenly a hack of mm...it even still had their logs in it.l01:53
HaSHasoldier, yea but i prefer to use windows inside linux.01:53
HaSHbut thats just *me*01:53
asoldierHash : have a link or two?01:53
pollyoInside wine some of my windows files already have viruses according you aegis01:54
kgxcarlos: forgot to mention, you'll need to restart apache: /etc/init.d/apache restart01:54
HaSHasoldier, http://www.vmware.com/download/01:54
alphi_has anyone here installed RTAI on their system? i am having a problem with the installation01:54
asoldierhas : I had Virtual PC on windows and it screwed my brain to bits.01:55
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HaSHasoldier, ah ok. ive used vmware for a while and have had 0 issues with it.01:56
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HaSHcan anyone who has any kind of fat filesystem paste to me their line in /etc/fstab ?01:59
carloswell, i have to leave01:59
carloshasta la vista02:00
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carloskgx: did you mean /etc/init.d/apache*2* restart ??02:02
carlosi tried to, but it doesn't work02:02
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kgxhmm, sorry can't help much then (am at work, so kinda busy). try apache docs. the problem is likely to be with apache02:02
carlos.php files should be open from everywhere, shouldn't they?02:03
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carlosantwhere i meant02:03
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hendausHelpers  is there a way to convert 5 files dat2mpg from vcdgear?02:04
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doblezeroHola a todos02:04
mrdlouisdi lost my program bar how do i get it back?02:04
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flaccidmrdlouisd: run the program 'kicker'02:04
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carloshola doblezero :P02:05
hendaussomebody help me please!02:05
hendaus!es | doblezero02:05
ubotudoblezero: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:05
mrdlouisdsays its already running02:05
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Dell190I had to reinstall Windows, and now it won't show the boot loader.. how do i get it back?02:05
benko_hendaus: I'ld do if I could ;)02:06
doblezeroslo estoy redactando un manual de Konversation02:06
doblezeroy haciendo unas capturas02:06
doblezeroponeos guapos para salir en l...02:06
carlosah si?02:06
benko_Kannst du Kasperl nicht English schreiben?02:06
flaccidmrdlouisd: you talking about the main panel?02:07
doblezerohaber como me keda02:07
hendausbenko_, ./vcdgear -dat2mpg /media/cdrom0/2.DAT gawwar2.mpg , now how can i add three converting filres02:07
carlosdoblezero, metete en el #kubuntu-es02:07
doblezerono domino muy bien este programa02:07
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doblezeropero de entrada parece ofrecerme solo este canal02:08
carlospincha en #kubuntu-es02:08
benko_hendaus : I can't help ya, sorry about that.02:08
mrdlouisdyes flaccid02:08
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flaccidrun killall kicker first02:09
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benko_flaccid: Is'nt kicker the panel?02:10
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flaccidbenko_: yes?02:10
benko_flaccid: Ok, just wanted to be sure.02:10
flaccidhopefully that is what is meant by program bar02:11
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koyo001_i have problems with the add and remove02:11
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koyo001_how can i get on a ubuntu forum>?02:12
benko_koyo: you could search the web...02:13
mrdlouisdyes that is what i meant i killed it then started it again but it shows for a second and dissapears again02:13
benko_I know a good one, but it's German.02:13
mrdlouisdI had enabled the hide bar option after set amount of time could that be a problem?02:13
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comosicusi'm trying to configure ekigasftphone.......but at connection type is  when i choose 56k modem nothing happens.......my comp freez02:14
mrdlouisdi enabled kicker and didnt allow it to auto hide and just changed the hide option02:15
mrdlouisdthanks for the killall and kicker02:15
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benko_kubuntu 7 will be released this month?02:18
kgxnot sure...im just waiting for kde4!02:18
dthackerbenko_: yes02:19
benko_kgx: Is KDE 4 available with Kubuntu 7?02:20
HaSHhmm anyone know of a guide to installing prevu on edgy?...02:20
dthackerbenko_: no02:21
benko_no, sorry hash02:21
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benko_dthacker: Does Kubuntu upgrade to 7 automatically?02:21
comosicusdar daca vorbesc in limba mea.................02:22
benko_I take a guess: No ;)02:22
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dthackerbenko_: right!02:22
flaccidbenko_: no02:22
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benko_ok, no prob.02:23
benko_but compiz will be on board, not to bad.02:23
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neptunepinkcomosicus: hi02:24
benko_Is anyone very well experienced with beryl?02:24
profoX`benko_: why are you asking02:25
comosicusat last02:26
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?02:26
archangel_I have an adept issue02:26
benko_I have a little "wobbling" problem ;)02:26
archangel_I keep getting this error when trying to update02:26
flaccidi have a hameroid problem02:26
dthackerI'm being chased by giant pickles02:27
profoX`benbread: hm you'd better go see the doctor02:27
archangel_command adapt_updater not found02:27
profoX`benko_: sorry benbread, stupid <tab>02:27
comosicusneptun...my problem is solved now...but ...what for is ekiga?02:28
profoX`benko_: whats wrong with wobble? (wow those are a lot of w's)02:28
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neptunepinkcomosicus: ekiga is the feeling of dizziness you get when you get up too quickly out of bed and such02:29
HaSHcan anyone help me with this http://pastebin.ulteo.us/49902:29
comosicusi whant to hear someoane from my buddy list.....and someoane recomend me ekiga02:29
benko_profoX: hehe, the prob is: it ran ok, and stuck to the edges but now it's jumping a bit when it's stuck02:29
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benko_I hope you know what I mean.02:29
comosicusdo you muck me?!!!!02:29
profoX`benko_: not really :) which version are you running02:29
archangel_anyone brave enough for an adept issue?02:29
profoX`benko_: I use that one too. Works fine here.. did you change the wobble settings yourself?02:30
flaccidarchangel_: the command is adept_updater iirc02:30
profoX`benko_: but I think I have the edge sticking off..02:30
dthackerHaSH: you're missing a file, was it supposed to downloaded?  Was it supposed to be on the machine already?02:30
benko_yea... I played a lot with beryl and then, suddenly... hm02:31
profoX`benko_: oh, and I'm running 0.2.1 instead02:31
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profoX`benko_: tried restarting beryl?02:31
HaSHdthacker, yea im following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iPodVideoEncoding ..its step one02:31
archangel_flaccid: where do I put it... terminal?02:31
neptunepinkcomosicus: yes, I am, I don't know what ekiga is02:31
benko_sure, it worked before and now it sucks. The stucked window jumps a bit up, down, left, right... all the time.02:31
HaSHi didnt have src in my sources.list so i added them and did apt-get update02:32
profoX`benko_: sounds like real fun02:32
profoX`benko_: maybe a new dance plugin02:32
flaccidarchangel_: goto alt+f2 if you are running kde shortcuts or go kmenu -> run command02:32
benko_no :(02:32
profoX`benko_: well, I haven't heard of the problem before, I thought you had a more easier to solve problem ;)02:32
comosicusi-m tryng to open ekiga and my com says that"ekiga ia allready running"    but i can't find on my task barr....02:33
benko_oh and another thing: double klick on the window titles left image closes the window using kwin02:33
profoX`benko_: you can always search for a bugreport or post one02:33
benko_doesn't work with beryl02:33
archangel_it says "could not run the specified command"02:33
chunterAnybody ever put a hard disk with a running Kubuntu setup from a pentium and put it in an AMD 64?  I'm wondering if or how I can get the existing install to 64-bit.02:33
dthackerHaSH: or maybe it can't find that repository . I can't quite tell from the message02:33
profoX`chunter: hm is the kubuntu install 64bit or 32bit?02:34
comosicusi-m tryng to open firefox web brwser and my com says that"firefox web browser allready running"    but i can't find on my task barr....02:34
chunterthe install was 32 bit (it lived in a Pentium 3 machine for five years)02:34
profoX`chunter: if its just the x86 version that you installed on the amd 64 then I think you have a good chance that it'll work02:34
comosicusi cant find him at all02:34
HaSHdthacker, hmm well yea some of the repos the source o matic gave me dont work.....where can i find a updates list of edgy sources02:34
benko_hm...and last but not least: kwin put the window "intelligent" to the upper right or left side, if the lower area is filled with other windows.02:34
benko_Also won't work with beyl02:34
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profoX`chunter: I tried pentium 2 -> pentium 4 and pentium 4 -> pentium M before, that worked fine..02:34
flaccidarchangel_: goto a terminal and run whereis adept_updater02:35
dthackerI would GTFI for the file names and see if you can find repositories that way02:35
profoX`chunter: and since the kernel is in essence the same in x86, I don't see why it wouldn't work02:35
neptunepinkcomosicus: alt-f2, `killall firefox-bin` should get it02:35
HaSHdthacker, gtfi?02:35
profoX`chunter: except for maybe the video card you'll have to reconfigure xserver-xorg if its different..02:35
chunterprofo:  It works, I'm running it now...  I think what I'm asking is how or if I should go for 64-bit kernel and such...02:35
dthackercomosicus: ^^^^neptunepink beat me to it02:35
archangel_thats what I get02:35
benko_But for now, I try to get the 0.2.1 version.02:36
chunterprofo:  Spent the last three hours going from ati to nVidia, no problem there now.02:36
dthackerGoogle the "Fantastic" Internet02:36
profoX`chunter: oh, well, I wouldn't do that personally..02:36
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html02:36
flaccidarchangel_: what about dpkg -l | grep adept02:36
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:36
profoX`chunter: not all applications (commercial and/or closed source apps mainly) have no 64bit version02:36
archangel_rc  adept                                  2.0ubuntu202:36
profoX`chunter: and otherwise you'll have to mess around with 32bit chroots.....02:36
profoX`chunter: no fun02:36
archangel_package manager for KDE02:36
profoX`chunter: (flash plugin, skype..)02:37
HaSHhmm is there a better to use source generator other then source o matic. sourceo matic gives me ones that are down or dont work02:37
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flaccidarchangel_: looks like it was removed with only runtime config left02:37
flaccidarchangel_: run sudo apt-get install adept02:37
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chunterprofoX: So it's best to just keep things as they are, which is to say, working. :)  Thanks02:38
profoX`HaSH: could you please post a bug report about the ones that don't work on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-nl-website/+filebug ?02:38
profoX`chunter: yea, if it aint broken.... :p02:38
profoX`chunter: why mess around02:38
profoX`chunter: 64bit doesnt give you that much of an advantage with regular applications anyway02:38
archangel_ok done (lot of stuff came up)02:39
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HaSHprofoX`, sure but my #1 concern atm is getting this fixed. i dont want to get side tracked filing  a bug report02:39
archangel_lol, newbie talk02:39
profoX`chunter: and it consumes more memory :p02:39
chunterprofo: I never thought of that, though it ought to go without saying.02:39
flaccidarchangel_: hehe. so it runs now?02:39
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archangel_oh, let me check02:39
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archangel_seems to be hanging02:40
HaSHdoes anyone have a sources.list that is fully working for edgy?...prefbly with alot of repos..02:40
profoX`HaSH: oh, well, I don't know anything thats better than source-o-matic, but I might know a few good repositories.. what do you need?02:40
archangel_yeah, nothing happends02:40
profoX`HaSH: a lot of repos is generally a bad idea if you don't need them :)02:40
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profoX`HaSH: especially bad for upgrades from edgy -> feisty02:40
HaSHlet me paste what happens when i use apt-get update02:41
HaSHprofoX`, i dont want feisty. just edgy02:41
chunterHash:  I'll share mine with you if you want but like profo says:  The more you have, the longer updates will take, especially since the repos will trounce each other and cancel each other out all the time.02:41
archangel_sounds like a few people have the same probblem02:41
sonoftheclayrdoes anybody use monkey messenger?02:41
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chunterhash:  Used to try to take from six Debians at once, it sucked02:41
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profoX`chunter: wow02:42
regeyaIM for simians?02:42
profoX`chunter: I'm already disgusted when I use Edgy packages on my Feisty install02:42
profoX`chunter: it just feels wrong02:42
HaSHi basicly want alot of packages lol02:42
sonoftheclayrregeya: it isn't even finished yet, i found it on the panet ubuntu feed, it looks like a small fast msn client02:43
HaSHbut if either of you would care to paste you sources.list id appreciate it.02:43
archangel_flaccid: nothing happends at all now02:43
regeyawith a name like that, it must be some kind of gnome thing02:43
chunterprofo:  When you're going bleeding edge sometimes you need to include the stable stuff to keep it from breaking.02:44
sonoftheclayrregeya: yeah, it is a gtk app02:44
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archangel_flaccid: but the errors are gone02:44
benko_well thanks so long.02:44
benko_I'll leave you, see yah!02:44
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flaccidarchangel_: run kdesu adept_updater from konsole and see what happens02:45
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chunterHash:  have you added universe and multiverse?02:46
archangel_X error        sh: adept_updater: command not found02:46
HaSHchunter, i do belive so.02:46
chunterEr...  what does 'sudo apt-get install adept' say?02:47
chunterThat was to archangel02:47
archangel_oh ok02:47
flaccidarchangel_: then your adept install was probably unsuccessful02:47
flaccidum thanks chunter02:47
chunterhash: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest edgy main (latest amarok)02:48
archangel_it says ALOT of stuff02:48
chunterarchangel: Quote it02:48
chunterhash: deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian stable  (Blackdown Java)02:48
HaSHhere is my sources.list http://pastebin.ulteo.us/50102:49
chunterhash: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main (Canonical's collection)02:49
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots02:49
flaccidarchangel_: pastebin the result02:49
HaSHbut i get alof ot errors when using apt-get update02:49
HaSHthe beryl one. and well i cant sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg02:49
HaSHso somthing is wrong with my sources i do belive02:50
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flaccidrun apt-get -f install02:50
flaccidthen try again02:50
flaccidalways good idea to read the output :)02:50
flaccidyou probably need to run an apt-get upgrade first02:51
flaccidas well02:51
chunterHash:  add that amarok line I gave you, otherwise that's similar to what I built mine from. I got rid of stuff I don't care about or use though, like 'bleeding edge' and beryl.  I might try beryl soon though02:51
archangel_how do become root02:52
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HaSHchunter, i already have that one added.02:52
neptunepinkarchangel_: sudo bash02:52
archangel_it says try using -f   ?02:53
neptunepinkwould you honestly trust man? their a rather suspicious bunch....02:54
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flaccidarchangel_: you don't need root. run it under sudo: sudo apt-get -f install02:54
chunterhash: Good :)  Are you running beryl now?02:54
HaSHno.. ive used it. but its not realy functional. to much bling.02:55
darryl_Does anyone here use Remote Desktop to thier computer from Windows?02:55
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koyo001_how do i go to the forum for ubuntu02:55
flaccidkoyo001_: with a web browser02:55
HaSHim trying to get vidoes on my ipod. but the guide im folowing says i need to recompile ffmpeg but i cant follow what the guide says due to somthing with apt now workin02:55
flacciddarryl_: yes02:55
archangel_something is working02:55
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profoX`HaSH: Beryl is more than bling02:56
koyo001_web broser02:56
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darryl_flaccid: how do you do it?02:56
koyo001_i wanna acces the irc for ubuntu02:56
profoX`HaSH: I actually think it makes me work easier, but lets not get into that kind of discussion02:56
flacciddarryl_: i use firefox or opera02:56
archangel_sweet done02:56
flacciddarryl_: i mean i use krdc02:56
darryl_flaccid: come again?02:56
dthackerdarryl: I use rdesktop02:56
archangel_what now?  done?02:56
neptunepinkdarryl_: I don't think there's a server for rdp, but their is for vnc, which is similiar02:57
flaccidkoyo001_: /join #ubuntu02:57
darryl_flaccid: how does that let you connect to Linux from Windows?02:57
profoX`HaSH: I actually use input enabled zoom and scale a lot, the rest is mostly eyecandy for me, but still nice to see and show02:57
flacciddarryl_: i corrected my self. i use krdc02:57
darryl_neptunepink: yea but VNC is SOOOO slow02:57
HaSHyea i only use it to show off what linux is capable of02:57
flaccidwhich is a frontend to rdesktop iirc02:57
profoX`I use FreeNX.. its pretty fast02:57
darryl_flaccid: From Windows XP you use krdc???02:57
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neptunepinkI think there's one that isn't, but I don't know which02:57
dthackerargh, backwards I read that02:57
flaccidoh wrong way round02:58
flaccidi use vnc in that case02:58
flaccidvnc is not slow02:58
darryl_profoX`: Does that have a Windows version to access ?02:58
darryl_VNC is sooooo slow02:58
profoX`darryl_: I'm not sure, but I think so02:58
flaccidyes it does02:58
flaccidno its not slow02:58
darryl_it is for me02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xvnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:58
flacciddarryl_: maybe you use it wrong or badly configured02:58
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profoX`darryl_: I only tried FreeNX on linux machines, but it works really fast on LAN02:59
flaccid!find xvnc02:59
ubotuFound: xvncviewer, linuxvnc, xvnc4viewer02:59
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX02:59
chunterprofo and hash:  I get the impression that beryl is going to give us the OS X 3d cutesy tricks and basically be the future of our desk environment.  I don't own an ipod so I can't help with that02:59
profoX`darryl_: and I think there is a windows client too02:59
darryl_flaccid: when I use Nomachine NX Client its lighting fast - when I use VNC its soooo slow02:59
profoX`chunter: well, not just Beryl, the whole composite experience02:59
profoX`chunter: the toolkits have to keep up too02:59
darryl_problem with nomachine is it starts a new session instead of taking over you main session02:59
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flacciddarryl_: well NX is probably going to be faster in most situations. but slow is really a subjective label. sysadmins have been happy with the speed since it came out03:00
HaSHhmm i have the linux-headers for the kernel im running. but i get this : Checking build requirements...03:00
HaSHLinux kernel (2.6.17-11-generic) source directory [/usr/src/linux] :03:00
HaSHError: /usr/src/linux does not exit03:00
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profoX`chunter: Gtk and Qt should try to share this future vision by getting the same underlying layer for widget animation/compositing features.. hmm.. what about libclutter? :)03:00
Ginja_Ninjahello. I am in kubuntu. How would i go about making a second drive the home directory (for users) ? thanks03:00
darryl_flaccid: yea NX Client is so much faster - but like I said I need it to take over my main session - which it wont do - it only starts a new X Session03:00
profoX`darryl_: flaccid: don't expect to be running 3D games over NX :P but for the rest its fast enough, also 3D will refresh fast enough by the way, just not fast enough to play a game03:01
chunterhash:  You need linux-headers or linux-source03:01
darryl_profoX`: I dont want it for games just for work, access internet etc and all apps that are open in my main session03:01
chunterhash: or is that kernel-headers or kernel-source?  Something like that.  Search for 'headers'.03:01
HaSHchunter, yea i do have them installed03:02
profoX`darryl_: oh, havent tried taking over the current session yet.....03:02
profoX`darryl_: my NX server is just a server for NX clients03:02
darryl_profoX`: that is what I need to do / what im on here trying to find out how to do :)03:02
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profoX`darryl_: dont look at me :p don't even know if its possible, but it should be03:02
chunterhash:  ls /usr/src03:02
profoX`darryl_: I mean.. it would be a big missing feature if it couldn't03:02
HaSHchunter, there is no sy link linux....theres no /usr/src/linux03:03
profoX`well i'm out03:03
profoX`good luck03:03
darryl_profoX`: but NX runs like the GUI version of "screen"03:03
HaSHman dapper was way way better imo03:03
darryl_so you need to have a running session03:03
profoX`darryl_: eh? that's not true03:03
HaSHdapper was very few problems. edgy has been one problem leading to a new problem03:04
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flaccidprofoX`: yes i know about NX03:04
darryl_profoX`: ????03:04
flacciddarryl_: that is the reason why. its not using display 003:04
profoX`darryl_: what are you trying to say? I can login on the NX server in a new session without a running session03:04
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flaccidthe rfb polling on 0 is one reason for the overhead with vnc03:04
profoX`hey but I got to go..03:05
darryl_profoX`: no03:05
profoX`darryl_: well, what do you mean with session?03:05
profoX`darryl_: X session? gnome-session?03:05
darryl_flaccid: yea thats what I need to do connect to display:003:05
archangel_what is the command to find out what version your running?03:05
HaSHso how can i get this to work? i have no /usr/src/linux yet i have the kernel source(linux-headers) installed for the kernel iam currently using.03:06
flacciddarryl_: use xvnc :)03:06
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profoX`darryl_: okay I'm confused, I think we misunderstand eachother, but I really have to go now....03:06
flaccidand don't complain about the speed :) its not mean to be something performance driven03:06
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darryl_flaccid: yea I have used VNC but i just have too many issues with its performance03:06
flaccidare you sure nx can't do console display 0 ?03:06
darryl_flaccid: I love how fast NX Client is03:07
flacciddarryl_: you must be one of the few people that do03:07
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darryl_flaccid: if it can thats what im here trying to find out how to do03:07
archangel_what is the command to find out what version your running?03:07
darryl_archangel_: uname -a ???03:07
HaSHanyone know what /usr/src/linux should point to?.03:07
flacciddarryl_: probably not the best place for help with NX03:07
flaccidarchangel_: lsb_release -a03:07
archangel_thats it, thanks03:08
darryl_flaccid: yea I was hoping someone here was doing what I am tryign to do03:08
flaccidgoogle seems to have help on the topic03:08
darryl_flaccid: I been on google the last 3 days before asking here03:08
flaccidand you read03:08
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX03:08
pagan0neim having a rather weird problem, i was running beryl, it froze, as it occasionally does, ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x, it restarted, but x wouldnt come back up, so i switches to a terminal and rebooted, x comes up, but now kde acts weird, the desktop icons dont load, and if i goto the kde menu, and select "run" kde completly locks up03:08
archangel_dude, I dont understand this at all03:08
HaSHcan someone with linux-headers installed run this command and tell me what it says? "ls -la /usr/src/linux"03:09
archangel_still running dapper03:09
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pagan0neHaSH: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 40 2007-03-18 11:43 /usr/src/linux -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-11-generic03:09
chunterhash: /usr/src/linux -> linux-headers-2.6.15-23-68603:09
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chunterhash:  (A symlink to my headers)03:09
flacciddarryl_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX looks like its for display 0 ?03:10
HaSHthank you guys :-) ....yea i dont know why mine didnt make that sym link03:10
pollyoII got the Last.FM Player working.  Finally. It has something to do with my sound setup and the KDE sound system.03:10
pagan0neanyone have any clue how to go about fixing my kde problem?03:10
darryl_flaccid: im just lookign at that now - I have not yet seen that still reading03:10
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chunterpagan:  Try to uninstall beryl and see if things will stabilize first03:11
HaSHbah this sucks. Checking build requirements...03:11
HaSHError: Kernel source code is incomplete - /usr/src/linux/drivers/md/dm.h not found.03:11
pollyoAnyone know how to figure out the Audio device one might have?  My KDE sound system says Autodetect and has a dropdown with quite a few options.03:11
HaSHmfer. even after i sym link it...its not working03:11
flacciddarryl_: ok cool03:11
darryl_flaccid: hrmmm I dont see any mention if it starts a new session or lets you resume your old one03:11
nosrednaekimpollyo: is your sound working?03:12
pagan0nechunter: well beryl isnt set to start on session load, i load it manually, (its not loaded now) and kde doesnt have any desktop, and the kde menu locks up if i try to "run" anything03:12
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pollyonosrednaekim: Yes my sound works.03:12
chunterpollyo:  sudo lsmod03:12
darryl_flaccid: but I do see that I can use the Windows nomachine NX Client to connect03:12
flacciddarryl_: thats why i'm assuming its display 0 as it says access your desktop. give it a try can't hurt i guess03:12
darryl_flaccid: yea I will give it a go03:12
pagan0nechunter:  do you think beryl could stll have some sort of effect even though its not running?03:12
flacciddarryl_: failing that try xvnc03:12
nosrednaekimpollyo: so you just want to see if it is using alsa or arts or oss or etc??03:12
chunterpagan:  Try to get X running with no 3d.  It's either corrupt software or broken hardware if it's acting like that; the software is easier to change :)03:13
darryl_flaccid: yea - want to avoid xvnc if possible - thanks for tips03:13
pollyonosrednaekim: Yes.03:13
pagan0nechunter: well i dont think its hardware, due to the nature of the incident03:14
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flacciddarryl_: thats cool. can't help trying it however. its different as its an x server and vnc server in one, so its performance is different..03:14
pollyoAlso what is a good number for the KDE sound system to release?  I lowered it to 1 from 60 as a test to get Last.FM Player working.03:14
nosrednaekimI'm sure how to tell, I THINK the default(chosen by automatic)is alsa03:14
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Jucatogood evening Admiral_Chicago03:15
pollyoOk.  that lsmod shows some things.  Should I be looking for snd_ stuff?03:15
don_jr__Anyone here use kmldonkey?03:15
Admiral_Chicagohey there Jucato :) just got back to my school03:15
chunterpollyo: I leave mine loaded at all times, but then again, when I play Last.fm I use amarok, not the last.fm player03:16
nosrednaekimpollyo: I'm not sure that lsmod will show which sound system you are using..03:16
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: just got back to my own studies (from a looong weekend break :P)03:16
chunterpollyo:  I also use the dmix plugin on alsa, so that if arts is hogging the port, and another program wants alsa, it will still play03:16
pollyochunter: I have no problems with Amarok playing last.fm service.  The stand alone player package lastfm is another story.03:16
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pollyochunter: Where is that?03:17
chunterpollyo:  Try launching it from the command line as 'artsdsp last.fm' or whatever03:17
nosrednaekimwhich engine is Last.Fm designed to use?03:17
pollyochunter: OK.  So prefix it with artsdsp with my original sound system settings?03:17
nosrednaekimxine, gstreamer? or its own..03:17
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chunterpollyo:  About dmix?  I'll google it and see if I can find the howto.  alsa also has cutesy built in ways to roll your own 7.1 surround from multiple soundcards, if you ever get the notion03:18
pollyoI'm new to all this ... Been using Kubuntu for just about 30 days.03:18
pollyochunter: This is an old computer.03:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lastfm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about last.fm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:19
chunterpollyo: I understand.  I've used a linux of some kind since 1995, and the computer I replaced just this afternoon was a Pentium 3; I know where you're coming from03:19
don_jr__Would anyone be able to help me get it so I can adjust my screen res without editing the xorg.conf file manually?  I understand will have to modify it in some way to fix it so it can be done in kde, I just don't want to modify it every time I want res changed.03:19
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ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok03:19
nosrednaekimdon_jr__: like for switching between monitors?03:19
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: might find this link article just a bit interesting (since it's indirectly related to firefox) http://community.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/04/09/183323503:19
pollyoI put my setting back to 60 seconds for the kde sound system to release if it is inactive.  Now trying that first idea with the prefix of artsdsp03:20
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flaccidarchangel_: did you fix your problem03:20
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don_jr__nodrednaekim no just to change resolution.  I'm not sure the exact resolution I want to use yet, just got set up yesterday, but I can't change it from within kde03:20
pollyoCan I do artsdsp lastfm from the run command in the K menu?03:21
pollyoIt didn't work from there.03:21
Dell190i need help with GRUB, i reinstalled Windows and now it is gone03:21
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pollyoLet me try from a shell.03:22
chunterpollyo:  You should be able to do it from 'run' if the lastfm binary is in your path03:22
nosrednaekimdon_jr__: get "randr"03:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about randr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:22
pollyoIt worked from the shell.03:22
chunterpollyo: http://floatingsun.net/articles/howtos/howto-alsa-dmix.html03:22
nosrednaekimdon_jr__: or rather... search for that in synaptic/adept not sure what the exact package manager is03:23
nosrednaekimpackage manager-> package name03:23
don_jr__I've used randr command before, but just to reset my res when wine doesn't change it back to normal, how do I set it to what res I want?03:23
nosrednaekimoh.... wine....03:23
nosrednaekimyour problem has to do with after quiting wine?03:23
don_jr__no not want to change resolution because of wine, I just want to be able to change my screen resolution when ever I want without having to manually alter the xorg.conf03:23
pagan0neDell190: boot off the ubuntu cd. mount /boot and do a grub-install as root03:24
flaccid!grub > Dell19003:25
nosrednaekimdon_jr__: randr will do that03:25
pollyochunter: Thank you. I bookmarked it.  I'm going to give it a try later.03:25
nosrednaekimas long as the resolutions are in the screen modelines03:25
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: seems like Swiftfox may be breaking licensing issues. I'll investigate03:25
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pollyochunter: Is this a common problem for KDE?  I noticed they mentioned it on the site.03:26
don_jr__nodrednaekim okay cool, I'll google for randr or something then, I have it already I just don't know how to use it accept for it to set things back to default.03:26
nosrednaekimright.... good luck03:26
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don_jr__next, I believe I have the updated flash package, how do I tell konqueror where to look for it, it still shows I'm running version 3.2.0 or something....03:27
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chunterpollyo:It's more about arts than KDE but the fast answer is yes...03:27
chunterpollyo:  It isn't even technically a problem and might be resolved with something they're trying to work into KDE 4 if I remember right03:28
nosrednaekimdon_jr__: I think you, oddly enough, have to put it in your .mozzila03:28
nosrednaekimdon_jr__: or maybe you can install it manually..03:28
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pagan0newhat do i do if apt-get hangs while removing a package?03:29
the_hammerany automatrix2 users here?03:29
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ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe03:29
nosrednaekimdon_jr__: ahh go to configure  in konqueror, then click on plugins... and then rescan..03:29
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.03:30
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the_hammeralrighty then03:30
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nosrednaekimthe_hammer: you can get anything through normal repos that you could with automatix03:31
Apollo101iam using kubuntu. i just restored a backuped image of hdb2. at boot it says 'failed to open journal device. unknow block 0.0. ext3 journal in .... something.  and its not mounting.   what can i do? (i think the backup i made didnt supported linux partitions03:31
HaSHcan anyone help me get the kernel headers correctly installed?. becasue simply installing them with apt DOESNT work.03:31
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nosrednaekimHaSH: umm... why not?03:31
HaSHnosrednaekim, 1st off it dint make a sym link of /usr/src/linux03:32
nosrednaekimyou have to get the right set... make sure it PRECISELY matches uname -a03:32
QuaXi have a small problem with my kubuntu installation: I installed 7.04 ff and didn't get my nvidia gfx card working, Now, after installing it per nvidia installer from nvidia.com it works, but my wi-fi device hase gone away... i can't use wlan at the moment03:32
Iwonder|toohash does the headers you installed match uname -a?03:32
QuaXis there anyone who might be able to help me?03:32
HaSHthen when i make one to the kernel source iget incompleate source03:32
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HaSHIwonder|too, yea they match03:32
nosrednaekimQuaX: yes.... whats your wireless chipset.. and what driver were you using?03:32
nosrednaekimHaSH: then make a symlink..03:32
nosrednaekimif you are sure it installed them..03:33
HaSHnosrednaekim, i did.03:33
don_jr__nosrednaekim thanks for the konqueror advice, gonna try it now03:33
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QuaXi have centrino notebook and i use the ipw3549 driver03:33
HaSHnosrednaekim, this is what i get after making the link and trying to install this : Checking build requirements...03:33
HaSHError: Kernel source code is incomplete - /usr/src/linux/drivers/md/dm.h not found.03:33
Iwonder|tookubuntu doesn't do the /usr/src/linux symlink,manually create it if you are compiling source that needs it03:33
HaSHIwonder|too, i did see my last post ^^03:33
Iwonder|toohash ls -l /usr/src03:34
nosrednaekimQuaX: ok... not familiar with intel wireless  but are you sure the corect driver is loaded at the moment?03:34
nosrednaekimdo a "lsmod"03:34
Iwonder|tooyou should see about 4 headers sources03:34
the_hammerhash i have something may help ya03:34
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QuaXipw3945 is loaded03:34
HaSHIwonder|too, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/50203:34
nosrednaekimQuaX: can you scan for AP's?03:34
Iwonder|tooverify the one you are using is the correct one03:34
QuaXbut i can't say if that IS the correct one03:34
HaSHthe_hammer, im all ears03:34
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nosrednaekimQuaX: it probably is03:35
QuaXi have no interface03:35
philphotohey folks, having trouble with some scanners.  any help out there?03:35
QuaXso i cant scan something, because there is nothing to scan with03:35
HaSHIwonder|too, it is. i made the link to the headers for the kernel i am currently booted into03:35
nosrednaekimQuaX: do an "iwconfig"03:35
Iwonder|toowhy do you have the 386 headers?03:35
the_hammerok hash here ya go add this to sources.list deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/ trunk main03:35
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nosrednaekimand see if it lists a wireless device03:35
QuaXlo and eth0 both wo wireless extension03:35
HaSHIwonder|too, after trying all headers i had i installed all the headers for the kernel i use.03:36
the_hammersudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade03:36
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the_hammerthen do apt-cache search kernel image03:36
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HaSHthe_hammer, hmm my adapt already seems to be broken.03:36
Iwonder|toothe 386 broke my modules,03:36
QuaXnosrednaekim, both have no wireless ext03:36
HaSHso i dont know if another repo will help03:36
nosrednaekimQuaX: have you rebooted since you installed the nvidia drivers?03:36
the_hammertry installing synaptic03:36
QuaXi wanted to test if they work proberly03:37
don_jr__No dice on getting flash read by konqueror, how can I tell if i got the latest update or not?  I was told earlier, and did, open up edgy-backports and downloaded flash from there.....03:37
HaSHIwonder|too, it did the same thing b4 iinstalled the 386. it dindnt affect anything03:37
nosrednaekimQuaX: do a "sudo rmmod <drivername>"03:37
QuaXi had some problems, that x doesnt come up with 3d support after a reboot03:37
Iwonder|toook,what exactly are you doing that requires them?03:37
QuaXwhich driver? wlan?03:37
HaSHthe_hammer, well i cant seem to find a list of sources that are actuly updated. source o matic gave me a few broken sources.03:37
nosrednaekimQuaX: there should be an intel wireless driver in there somewhere..03:37
HaSHIwonder|too, compile a application that isnt in the repositorys03:37
Iwonder|tooi was installing rt61 module when i had difficulties03:38
QuaXyes the ipw394503:38
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QuaXk i made the rmmod03:38
Iwonder|tooand your app complains of a missing module?03:38
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nosrednaekimof Ipw3945?03:38
HaSHIwonder|too, it requires the compile of a module03:38
nosrednaekimok... do a "sudo modprobe ipw3945"03:38
nosrednaekimwe just rmeoved the module, and are reloading it... to see if ther are any errors..03:39
QuaXsh: /sbin/ipw3945d-2.6.20-13-generic: not found03:39
QuaXFATAL: Error running install command for ipw394503:39
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QuaXthere is an error03:39
nosrednaekimok... you must have inavertantly updated your kernel03:39
pagan0neok, what do i do if removing a package makes apt-get hang?03:39
QuaXdamned adept :/03:40
Flying_Eagleapt-get -f install03:40
Flying_Eagleon konsole03:40
Flying_Eagle-f stands for fix03:40
flaccidarchangel_: i assumed you fixed adept.03:40
Flying_Eaglefist close adept03:40
Iwonder|toohash what does uname -a give?03:40
nosrednaekimQuaX: just try reinatlling the driver in adept..03:41
QuaXthe nvidia driver?03:41
QuaXor the wlan driver03:41
nosrednaekimthe ipwthingy03:41
HaSHIwonder|too, Linux KernelHack 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux03:41
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QuaXhmm... but how? i never installed it - it has been working since i installed kubuntu03:42
QuaXdidn't do anything with this driver at all03:42
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nosrednaekimQuaX: well...go reinstall it anyway..03:43
Iwonder|toook does ls -l /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic symlink to linux-headers-2.6.17-11?03:43
don_jr__I still can't get flash to work with konqueror03:43
QuaXhow or what shll i install?03:43
pagan0neFlying_Eagle: it looks like it his hanging on apt-get install -f aswell03:43
nosrednaekimQuaX: just a sec03:43
Flying_Eaglepagan0ne, no errormessage?03:44
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HaSHIwonder|too, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/503 ...im not sure.03:44
pagan0neFlying_Eagle: it just hangs on the text "Unpacking replacement vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-14 ..."03:44
HaSHIwonder|too, yes it does.03:44
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Apollo101iam using kubuntu. i just restored a backuped image of hdb2. at boot it says 'failed to open journal device. unknow block 0.0. ext3 journal in .... something.  and its not mounting.   what can i do? (i think the backup i made didnt supported linux partitions03:44
nosrednaekimQuaX: hmm... interesting.... there is no package for it...03:44
pagan0necuttently im running 2.6.20-11, i havent booted into 14 yet03:45
Iwonder|toohash make your /usr/src/linux symlink point to /linux-headers-2.6.17-1103:45
QuaXhmm... nosrednaekim it is in the kernel... maybe...03:45
HaSHIwonder|too, ok doing it now.03:45
nosrednaekimyeah... must be...03:45
QuaXah damned i try to reboot the newer kernel03:45
QuaXthx anyway03:45
Flying_Eaglepagan0ne, then do that. maybe the packages installationscript needs the right kernel03:45
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HaSHIwonder|too, same thing.03:45
Iwonder|tooor thats what fixxed my issues,i dunno why its called -generic and symlinked to the non0generic03:45
Flying_Eaglei could ask uname and when uname gives the wrong kernel it doesnt know what to do, pagan0ne03:46
HaSHIwonder|too, doesnt work saying incomplete source code03:46
pagan0neFlying_Eagle: the reason i havent is becauses theres a issue with the 14 kernel, i havent successfully booted into it03:46
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Iwonder|toohash what app?03:46
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HaSHIwonder|too, truecrypt03:46
Iwonder|tooi'm using a dufferent kernel,but i'll try to compile it03:46
don_jr__konqueror is only registering using flash 4.03. I downloaded flashplayer 9.0 today but I can't get knoqueror to read/find it...any advice?03:46
Iwonder|tooyou have a url?03:46
HaSHIwonder|too, yes one second03:47
Iwonder|toopm it if you are registered03:47
HaSHIwonder|too, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/50303:47
Flying_Eaglepagan0ne, then fix this first03:47
pagan0neFlying_Eagle: really didnt want to have to do that tonight, as it would require really messing with the binary nvidia crap which doesnt seem to like 1403:48
pagan0nenow i have a apt-get install process that i cant kill!03:48
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Flying_Eaglepagan0ne, you know, first you gotta have a hen to make it produce you some eggs.....03:49
pagan0neFlying_Eagle: but why would i need to install a kernel i have never run to remove a package?03:50
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Flying_Eagleid say because of the packages script. but: what you might try is "dpkg -r packagename"03:52
pollyoAnyone know how I can change the settings for a program in the K menu?03:52
Flying_Eaglethis should at least give you more info03:52
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pollyoI want to change the settings for how the program starts.03:52
bobstropollyo: menu editor perhaps?03:52
nosrednaekimpollyo: right click on it... then say edit item03:52
pollyoOk.  Thank you.03:53
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don_jr__is Cadega an alternative to wine or is it something completely different?03:53
tulio__how do i add windows to the grub?03:54
flaccidits an add on to wine03:54
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Peakeram I the only one for whom kdesu gets stuck every once in a while?03:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:55
don_jr__flaccid okay thanks.  I'm trying to get one of the programs that it says it will run to work, so I'm looking into it.03:55
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ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:56
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pollyoI must say that I have never found anthing like this in windows.  This community is very helpful!03:58
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok03:58
flaccidAmarok is actually for *nix, not just linux ubotu03:58
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Jucatoflaccid: trying to talk to a bot? O.o04:00
pagan0neok, how do i tell apt not to try to complete a task it was told to do on a previous run?04:01
flaccidhehe yeah04:02
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don_jr__which package do I need to get to run firefox on kubuntu?04:02
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins04:03
tang^don_jr__: firefox at a minimum04:03
flacciddon_jr__: depends on releaase, but probably firefox04:03
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don_jr__okay, will give it a try04:05
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mrdlouisdi had installed a terminal rdp client and cant remember the name of it04:09
mrdlouisdanyone run any?04:09
flaccidkrdc / rdesktop04:09
mrdlouisdi never had any luck with that04:10
mrdlouisdcouldnt get a connection04:10
Flying_Eagletry nx04:10
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flaccidthat would suggest network problem04:10
flaccidnx != rdp04:10
mrdlouisdwhen i boot to win it works fine04:11
flaccidyeah well dif platform04:11
teribis there a way to stop certain kernel modules from being loaded?04:11
don_jr__how do I run a .sh script file?04:11
flaccidyou might wanna try troubleshooting04:11
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flacciddon_jr__: sh ./script.sh04:12
mrdlouisdim trying to find the app i used04:12
Flying_Eagledont know much about those things, but i used nx and it just worked - and that very well04:12
mrdlouisdthanks guys04:12
flaccidFlying_Eagle: its a different protocol. he wants an rdp client.04:12
don_jr__flaccid thanks04:12
don_jr__I did that flaccid and it killed my terminal...lol04:13
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teribdon_jr__, just run ./sopmescript.sh04:13
Flying_Eagledoes anyone know, when the feisty-rcs shall be released?04:13
teribbut of cours,e spell it right04:13
donutman25for some reason i cannot connect to the internet in kubuntu. can someone help me?04:13
flaccidkrdc is the kde front end to rdesktop. no need to use gnome frontend.04:13
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neonlinuxhey all.. in a spot of trouble.. anyone know of a gui wifi manager?04:13
teribdidn't know there was a kde rdesktop tool ;-)04:13
teribhow to not have ohci-hcd load @ boot once the install is done though?04:14
flaccid!info krdc04:14
ubotukrdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 499 kB, installed size 968 kB04:14
don_jr__terib it's not 'green' like it's executable, but I'll give it a shot.04:14
flaccidi like it04:14
teribdon_jr__, then chmod 755 it04:14
terib!info stop module loading @ boot04:15
ubotuPackage stop does not exist in edgy04:15
flaccidit will require +x perms as well and of course correct header04:15
terib755 is adequate for a shell script04:15
terib<-bash ho04:15
flaccidit can be anything readable, but it needs +x too04:16
don_jr__terib thanks, that did it04:16
teribthats what the 7 is for ;-)04:16
flaccidand !#/bin/sh header on first line of file04:16
Flying_Eagleterib, is it in the /etc/rc?.d/-directories? then (re)move the symlinks which start with "S"04:16
flaccid7 is read, write and execute04:16
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teribyeah well, most ppl want to be able to edit thewir script to fix it when it does execute ptroper ;-)04:16
hagabakawhat does "Beta! c" mean?04:17
teribhow do i stop ohci-hcd for getting auto loaded @ boot04:17
don_jr__it's running the script flawlessly now04:17
teribhagabaka it's really REALLY broken04:17
eutherdonutman25: can you give more specifics ?04:17
soulrider!vmware > soulrider04:18
hagabakadoes "c" mean the third beta?04:18
teribthe ohci-hcd driver mosnkey with the uhci-hcd and ehci-hcd that my ahrdware uses, and if ohci-hcd load @ boot then my keyboard and mouse don't work04:18
Black_Cathagabaka: sources in "C" language maybe :)04:18
don_jr__Arrrgh!!  firefox doesn't recognize the updated version of flashplayer either....04:19
teribat least you can use your pc when it's done booting04:19
donutman25euther: i have kubuntu up and running and i have my router dhcp enabled but kubuntu cannot/willnot get an ip address04:20
teribkick it04:20
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donutman25euther: btw my internet work well with my xandros installation on my other pc04:21
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pollyoI was thinking about getting a domain name from one of the services like dyndns.  Does anyone use a service?04:22
Flying_Eagleterib, maybe /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist helps?04:22
teribi use dyndns04:22
pollyoterib: I notice it discussess two free services.04:22
teribFlying_Eagle, will look into it, thanx04:22
pollyoterib: Do you know anythign about them?04:22
teribpollyo http://teri.kicks-ass.org04:22
benjihi, linux noob here. after a driver for my winfast dtv 200h tv tuner04:22
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pagan0nehow do i keep adept from resuming a action it was doing?04:22
teribthats my web server on this doze machine that uyses dyndns so i don't have to know my ip constantly04:23
donutman25euther: oh and for some reason i cannot get administrator access to change my network setttings04:23
pollyoterib: Is that a free service?04:23
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teribpollyo yeah, /me's too poor to pay for domain name services ;-)04:24
pollyoterib: Do I use Dynamic if my ip changes?04:24
pollyoterib: Ok.  Was it easy to setup with Kubuntu?04:24
Iwonder|toodoes dyndns have a linux client?04:24
eutherdonutman25: wired or wireless ?04:24
donutman25euther: wired04:24
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teribanytime your ip changes, you'll ahve to go back and change it with dyndns, but it's almsot as easy as jsut loggin into the website, there are dyndns.org updaters i think that'll inform dynds of your ip @ everyboot04:25
Jucato!info dyndns04:25
ubotuPackage dyndns does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas04:25
Iwonder|toosudo ifconfig04:25
Jucato!info dyndns-client04:25
ubotuPackage dyndns-client does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas04:25
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.04:25
teribpollyo apache is ahrder then setting up dyndns ;-)04:25
Iwonder|toopollyo: check with your isp,i got a static ip for $5 extra04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ddclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
terib$5 wasted ;-)04:26
flaccid!info ddclient04:26
ubotuddclient: Update dynamic IP address at DynDNS.org. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.6.7-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 46 kB, installed size 272 kB04:26
flaccidthere it is04:26
teribpollyo, if it's done right, your pc doesn't even need to knbow anyhting about dyndns04:26
Iwonder|toonot wasted on an entire linux network,i can go away for a month and my server is still accessable04:26
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teribmy ip has only changed once in 6 months, unless i change the nic it's connected to, all my nic's give me diff ip's from my isp ;-)04:27
eutherdonutman25: does this occur after a suspend/resume cycle ?04:27
pollyoterib: I'll have to manually change my ip address at DynDNS though right?04:27
benji!dtv 20004:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dtv 200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:27
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teribpollyo, not if you use ddclient04:27
benji!winfast driver04:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about winfast driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:27
flaccidpollyo: yeah use ddclient thats what its for04:27
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pollyoterib: ok04:27
pollyoflaccid: Ok.  ddclient is in the repos?04:28
teribbenji, have you tried google.con/linux04:28
flaccidbenji: see if tvtime works for your card or look up the hcl04:28
Iwonder|toobut i also have a site for work with a registered domain04:28
donutman25euther: I have never suspended/resumed it. I only shutdown and restart04:28
flaccidits in universe04:28
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teribthis l,ivecd in vmware is stupid slow04:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about leadtek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:29
eutherdonutman25: what OS versions has the router worked well with ?04:31
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i have a question. I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and when I get to supported resolutions, I can't select the other resolutions I can run04:31
Admiral_Chicagohow can I select one?04:31
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: navigate to the resolution (using cursor keys) and press space to check/uncheck them04:32
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdetv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:32
donutman25Windows 98,2000,XP, Symphony OS, and Xandros OS04:32
donutman25euther: Windows 98,2000,XP, Symphony OS, and Xandros OS04:32
flaccidbenji: what you trying to do04:32
teribbenji !tvtime :-P04:32
Admiral_Chicagothanks Jucato!04:33
benjibenji wants to watch television :P04:33
flacciddid you read my messages?04:33
eutherdonutman25: are you comfortable filing a report at bugs.ubuntu.com ?04:33
teribdo u know what cipset your ctuner uses?04:33
benjidont know where to start with getting my tuner going04:33
teribwell, first, try tvtime04:34
flaccid[12:31]  <flaccid> benji: see if tvtime works for your card or look up the hcl04:34
pollyoI see this client notes a few different services.  Anyone know the major difference between them?04:34
teribfree, or not free04:34
flaccidpollyo: which client?04:34
pollyoflaccid: ddclient04:35
Admiral_Chicagotrying nov04:35
flaccidpollyo: read http://dyndns.org04:35
donutman25euther: sure... This isn't the first variation of linux that i have exprienced this issue with. It has also occured with knoppix04:35
flaccidbenji: also see http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/other.html#AEN1643104:35
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flacciddonutman25: what issue04:36
benjiflaccid: will do04:36
donutman25flaccid: internet not working04:36
flacciddonutman25: why is it not working04:36
flaccidthere is no conclusion yet04:37
flaccidcan't make the link to another OS without a conclusion04:37
donutman25flaccid: i have no idea04:37
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flaccidis it your net not working?04:37
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pagan0neis there any way to get apt to remove a package from the database w/o removing it from the system?04:38
flaccidpagan0ne: why would you want to do that04:38
pagan0neflaccid: its a LONG story, just write it off as im intentionally trying to hose my system04:39
flaccidpagan0ne: no04:39
flacciddonutman25: what interface is your ethernet device?04:39
pagan0neflaccid: then is there any way to manually tinker with the database to make apt beleave it never existed?04:40
donutman25flaccid: eth0... not really sure what you mean04:40
flaccidpagan0ne: dont know. i'm sure its hackable.04:40
flacciddonutman25: pastebin output of sudo dhclient eth004:40
pagan0neflaccid: do you know where the database is located by default?04:40
flaccidpagan0ne: i dont sorry. try ##linux its not something to discuss in this channel04:41
pagan0neflaccid: thanks04:41
donutman25flaccid: will do! hav to restart to do it04:41
flaccidwhy would you need to restart to run a command04:42
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tang^probably dual booting04:42
flaccidah true04:43
flaccidbut then the puter would have no net04:43
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fignewapt is more of a topic in #kubuntu than in ##linux :/04:44
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se7endoes dyndns account expire after 30 days?04:45
flaccidfignew: not hacking it no.04:45
flaccidse7en: read the http://dyndns.org site04:45
fignewflaccid: hacking? where?04:45
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flaccidfignew: thats what pagan0ne wants to do04:46
fignewflaccid: and?04:46
Iwonder|toohe wants to edit the apt database,thats  deb discussion04:46
pollyoAnyone here setup ddclient?  When they ask for the interface wish is used for using dynamic DNS service are they asking for the card?04:46
pollyoLike ath0?04:47
flaccidi wouldn't call what he wants to do editing the apt database04:47
Iwonder|toohe wants to remove an entry04:47
flaccidpollyo: probably the card that has gateway to net04:47
pollyoflaccid: How long does it take for the domain name to work?04:47
fignewpagan0ne: I'd recommend #debian ,  they know what they're doing.04:47
pollyoflaccid: Will I know in a few minuts, hours, or days?04:47
Iwonder|toopollyo:  if it works like the windows client it might fail trying to retrieve ip,if it does it from ifconfig04:48
Dell190Has anyone ever used the "Super GRUB Disk" ??04:48
flaccidIwonder|too: yes and not remove the package. not a good practice.04:48
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fignewflaccid: not a good practice != cracking04:48
flaccidi never said cracking04:48
Iwonder|tooi agree its a bad practice04:48
flaccidcracking involves cryptography04:48
fignewflaccid: hardly04:48
BluesKajyes Dell190, I've used it successfully to restore the windows mbr04:48
Iwonder|toobut for the knowledge i support him asking04:48
fignewuh huh04:49
Dell190Ok, Thankx BluesKaj04:49
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flaccidfignew: you are right de facto definition extends to more than just crypto04:49
fignewLinus Torvalds is a hacker... LIEE+ K1d6 is a cracker :)04:49
BluesKajit works , quite straight forward Dell19004:49
Estagus_hi all04:49
Estagus_why in kontrolcenter I can not change my user icon? it say that admin forbids me to change it. I'm admin of it comp04:49
flaccidstill, what does any of this have to do with helping people with problems04:50
Dell190BluesKaj: Thats awesome, i need it to fix Grub, and it sounds just like the thing i would need04:50
fignewflaccid: I dunno, he had a problem, and you told him to get lost :(04:50
Iwonder|tooEstagus_: click adminastrator mode at the bottom of page04:50
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BluesKajyup , give it a try Dell19004:50
flaccidfignew: thats incorrect. he never cited a problem and i never told him to get lost...04:51
Black_CatEstagus_: System Settings - Administration - User & Groups, should help.04:51
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Estagus_Iwonder|too: there no such button04:51
flaccidi came here to help not argue upon such trivial topics04:51
Estagus_1 sec04:51
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fignew<pagan0ne> is there any way to get apt to remove a package from the database w/o removing it from the system? ........ agreed, no need to argue :)04:52
Iwonder|tooEstagus_:  at bottom next to OK04:52
flaccidok cool04:52
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archangel_flaccid: adept not fixed04:53
teribso how do i make my usb keyboard work, remove the usbkbd from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?04:53
nonudadamn..kubuntu can run on my p200mmx 64 ram and 2 gb hdd !! :)04:53
pagan0nehey stop slinging mud over my question... im still here you know04:53
teribnonuda, i've put gentoo on a p133 with 16m ram04:53
Iwonder|toodoes your usb keyboard work in grub?04:54
Black_CatIwonder|too: just like Estagus_ said, there is no such button in "User Profile" settings panel.04:54
teribIwonder|too yea04:54
teribdunno actually04:54
nonudaterib: nice..04:54
teribmouse works when i'm done booting, keyboard doesn't04:54
flaccidarchangel_: need more help?04:55
teribnonuda, initial isntall was via debian in gentoo's future swap cause the machine didn't have enough ram to boot the ramdisk from the cd04:55
archangel_fraid so04:55
fignewterib: usb kbd?04:55
Iwonder|tooterib: does your bios support usb?04:55
archangel_I think it might be easier to reinstall than to fix everything, what do you think?04:55
flaccidarchangel_: try this sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adept && kdesu adept_updater04:56
flaccidarchangel_: negative04:56
flaccidi'm sure we'll fix it04:56
Cosmo_anytime I install anything using synaptic package manager it attemps to install the VMware player and fails then whenever I restart I have to reinstall the NVIDIA driver to be able to boot into kubuntu. How can I fix this?04:56
teribIwonder|too, yeah, I have some trouble with my hardware, if uhci-hcd loads, then none of my usb devices work at all, my nforce2 board uses ohci-hcd and ehci-hcd for it's usb04:56
pollyoHow can I tell if my new dyndns is working from outside my network?04:56
teribpollyo give us a name to pound on with our fast connections ;-)04:57
teribor, simply ping the hostname04:57
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flaccidpollyo.gotdns.com has address
DroolingSheepyou need to point it to your public IP04:58
flaccidupdating it with the private IP and not the external WAN one04:58
Iwonder|tooterib: have you looked in your rc directory and changed the S<whatever> to K<whatever> to prevent it from l,oading?04:58
Iwonder|tooEstagus_: user profile?where are you looking?04:58
pollyoOk.  I'm lost.04:58
teribIwonder|too, disabling an whole init script during boot is gonna leave me quit lacking04:58
Estagus_kontrol center04:58
pollyoIs that something I have to fix in ddclient?04:58
teribpollyo 192.168.* are reserved for private home or office use04:59
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flaccidpollyo: where is your modem plugged in04:59
Iwonder|tookontrol center,what area?04:59
pollyoterib: Yes.  I have that much.04:59
Flying_Eagleterib, i repeat: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist04:59
pollyoflaccid: A router.04:59
flaccidthats probably the problem04:59
pollyoflaccid: Do I have to log into my router and change something?04:59
teribFlying_Eagle, did that, mouse works, keyboard doesn't04:59
benji[collapse] 04:59
chemicalvampsudo module-assistant prepare,update = module-assistanr: command not found.. (whats the kde equivalent?04:59
flaccidpollyo: no. you need to see if the ddclient can get the IP from your router or work it by going to an external service05:00
archangel_flaccid: wow05:00
flaccidi can't remember what it can and can't do05:00
nonudapollyo: can u make me a shutdown script? i want to put it in a panel or desktop, when i want to shut it down i just click on it...05:00
Iwonder|tookontrol center,login manager,users,,,the icon?05:00
archangel_flaccid: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.05:00
Flying_Eagleterib, what about the hotplug-services? maybe udev loads the module. so deleting the keyboard there could help05:01
teribFlying_Eagle, it had usbmouse and usbkbd blacklisted as well, u think if i remove/comment out the usbkbd that that would get the keyboard workin?05:01
chemicalvampnonuda make a shortcut, with the command sudo shutdown05:01
flaccidarchangel_: pastebin the whole output05:01
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Flying_Eagleterib, maybe? i hadnt any issues like that...05:01
nonudachemicalvamp: just that?05:01
Black_CatIwonder|too: Security & Privacy -> Password & User Account05:01
Estagus_Iwonder|too: in kontrol center in user profile05:02
chemicalvampnonuda simple eh05:02
nonudachemicalvamp: yup...try it now05:02
Black_CatEstagus_: your're probably talking about System Settings, it's not the Control Centre, another hierarchy and names.05:02
Estagus_Iwonder|too: some time before I can do it in user profile05:02
chemicalvampgnome=module-assistant.... kde=???05:02
Iwonder|toomy bad i misunderstood him,there is no admionastrator button in mine either,but none needed if i am changing "my" icon05:03
teribwelp, here we go again then05:03
archangel_flaccid: adept now asking if I want to upgrade to a newer version of Kubuntu05:03
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chemicalvampPackage module-assistant is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:04
Estagus_Iwonder|too: yes. I try to change _my_ user icon in user profile (where I can change pass, email and so on)05:04
acamargobi have kubuntu installed on an usb external hdd and am able to boot to it from my laptop, however the bios form my desktop doesnt have any usb device or external hdd boot option... is there a way to partialy boot from a cd... and redirect the boot to the hdd?05:04
Iwonder|tooreally odd Estagus_05:04
flaccidarchangel_: looking05:05
Black_CatEstagus_: you can easily change it in User & Groups anyway.05:05
Iwonder|tooacamargob: how about pit a bootloader on a floppy?05:05
Black_CatEstagus_: just pick your login ID from drop-down menu out there.05:05
Estagus_Iwonder|too: yes, but I can't see it in profile, near located com do it fine05:06
Estagus_my debian cant change this too05:06
flaccidarchangel_: weird. what does dpkg -l05:06
flaccidarchangel_: weird. what does dpkg -l | grep adept05:06
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teribthat didn't work05:07
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Iwonder|tooterib: what did you say loads and kills it?05:08
archangel_flaccid: which command or both?05:08
teribIwonder|too, if uhci-hcd loads, none of my usb devices will work after booting05:08
flaccid dpkg -l | grep adept05:08
Black_CatEstagus_: oh-oh, I'm sorry, Login Manager, not User & Groups05:08
archangel_flaccid: should I upgrade? adept says "click here if you wish to upgrade"05:09
Estagus_I know it :)05:09
Estagus_I found solution05:09
Estagus_I think it's a bug05:09
flaccidarchangel_: no not at this stage. i'm not sure why its asking you for that if you ran update.05:09
flaccidyou are probably talking about the notifier05:09
Black_Catgood 4 u :)05:09
flaccidwhich means its working..05:09
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flaccidso you choice if you wanna upgrade now..05:09
archangel_I want the right thing05:10
nonuda_chemicalvamp: i was create launcher and in the command line i type sudo shutdown, but when i double click it nothing happen05:10
flaccidwhat is 'the right thing'05:10
Estagus_it allow to change it ONLY IF in login manager I set image source "users" (don't know english name, russian locale)05:10
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Estagus_I think it MUST allow with modes "admin, users"   and "users, admin" too05:11
archangel_whatever I should do that you think would be the right thing to do05:11
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acamargobthat seems like a good idea... is there a bootloader you would recommend me?05:12
archangel_by the way I never got my prompt back in terminal, what do I do? close out and reopen?05:12
teribtry typing reset05:12
flaccidarchangel_: ctrl+c in terminal05:12
flaccidthen goto alt+f2 and run adept_updater05:12
chemicalvampnonuda_ try sudo shutoff, or turn off (i know restart is sudo reboot)05:12
flaccidthen if you wanna update packages, thats your choice05:13
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flaccidor run adept and update/install what you want05:13
archangel_I did the package thing05:13
archangel_ton of crap came up05:13
teribwtf, no rxvt05:13
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Iwonder|tooshutdown now05:14
Iwonder|tooor halt05:14
teribshutdown -h now05:14
nonuda_chemicalvamp: same thing, nothing happen, i tried sudo halt, sudo restart, sudo reboot05:14
regeyaterib, you know what to do if you want to have rxvt :->05:14
flaccidarchangel_: that crap is probably the packages that can be upgraded..05:14
Iwonder|toononuda: typw which halt05:14
teribregeya, sounds amuanlish ;-) but i got bigger fish to fry, no need installing a whole lot of anyhitng if i can't use it outside vmware05:15
archangel_flaccid: wow, its alot05:15
chemicalvampnonuda_ try shutdown now, shutdown -h now05:15
regeyagah.  one of my old linux boxes I ran x out of stubbornness, because I used window maker, sometimes fsviewer.app, and a lot of rxvt's05:15
Iwonder|tooyou may need full path,,,/sbin/halt05:15
chemicalvampgnome=module-assistant.... kde=???05:15
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flaccidarchangel_: your system looked pretty outdated..05:15
terib<-fluxbox ho05:15
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teriband why no mc either, whats up with that05:16
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archangel_flaccid: all I do sice I have had linux (dapper was brand new) is just update with adept05:16
nonuda_chemicalvamp: same..nothing happen, it seem that i must enable it to execute, coz it seems that it didn't execute the command i give05:17
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karlI have installed an ubuntu server (without Gnome, text boot only) and when I boot it I get a message "Starting Up..." rather than showing me all the things that is loading while it is booting. How do I disable this message or enable it to show me everything as it loads, as per normal linux?05:17
Iwonder|toononuda: are you creating an icon ?05:17
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nonuda_chemicalvamp: sudo halt in terminal work...05:17
chemicalvamp<ubotu> Package module does not exist in edgy... whats the edgy equivalent?05:17
flaccidarchangel_: cool.05:17
teribkarl, edit grub, change silent to verbose05:17
karlthanks a bunch terib05:17
pollyoOk.  I think I might have it.05:18
nonuda_yes...i create a new launcher and seti it up with an icon05:18
pollyoQuestion is will I need to do port forwarding next?05:18
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chemicalvampnonuda_ then whats wrong is, how your making your file05:18
archangel_flaccid: so what do I do now?05:18
Iwonder|toocan you right click,properties set executable?05:18
karlterib: do you remember the key to hit so I can edit grub at boot time?05:18
teribkarl, errr, change quiet to verbose05:18
Dell190Anyone have any last ideas, Before i go back to full windows05:18
flaccidarchangel_: upgrade the packages or don't. its your choice..05:18
bobstrosorry Dell190, on what?05:18
nonuda_chemicalvamp: ahhh..ok then what should i do to make the right file..btw i'm in ubuntu desktio05:18
archangel_I'm all for upgrading05:18
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teribi'm all for jsut getting it to work period05:19
Dell190i had to reinstall windows, and now, no matter what i do..  grub will not come back at all05:19
flaccidarchangel_: go for it. i'm on a dapper box atm for which i keep up to date05:19
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archangel_do I click next on the upgrade wizard?05:19
chemicalvampnonuda_ then why are you in a kde help zone if you use gnome?05:19
teribit can be 40yo for all i care, if it works05:19
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Iwonder|tooDell190: you must reinstall grub05:19
flaccidarchangel_: just to be sure can you show me a screenshot of the screen you are at?05:19
nonuda_|wonder|too, i have set its ptoperty to executable05:19
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nonuda_chemicalvamp: my real system is kubuntu.. ;)05:19
Iwonder|toook is your icon the command or a link to a script?05:20
teribuggg, these update mirrors are SLOW05:20
vbgunzDell190: insert the livecd and look at the bottom. I believe you'll see a list (F1, F2), one of them is advanced or something similar, in it should be an option to reinstall Grub or resuce system, not sure :(05:21
Iwonder|tooDell190: try booting to livecd and using adept reinstall grub05:21
chemicalvampnonuda_ in kde i would right click desktop, new-> link to application, and in applicaion screen ide, put sudo hult in command line05:21
vbgunzDell190: *rescue, sorry05:21
nonuda_|wonder|too, my icon is the command05:21
bobstroDell190: there's a lot out there like http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/, but supergrub is supposed to be good.05:21
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archangel_where do I send it flaccid05:22
bobstro(you can boot from cd to do same)05:22
chemicalvamp<ubotu> Package module does not exist in edgy... whats the edgy equivalent?05:22
Dell190Bobstro: i just tried Super Grub to no avail05:22
nonuda_chemicalvamp: same thing in gnome i guess..launher is a shortcut link05:22
cheeseboy i installed kubuntu in vmware to partition can someone help me get it to boot05:22
Iwonder|toocommand must be run by root i05:22
Dell190vbgunz: ok i will try that05:22
flaccidarchangel_: to me via dcc or put it up on a website05:22
chemicalvampcheeseboy how far did you get it now?05:23
teribuse taht link archangel_05:23
Iwonder|toononuda: are you using kde?05:23
archangel_wont let me05:23
chemicalvamphes using gnome05:23
nonuda_|wonder|too, right now i'm in gnome session05:23
vbgunzDell190: good luck05:23
flaccidarchangel_: can you email it to me? i wanna make sure you are not doing a dist-upgrade05:23
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flaccidimageshack.us looks like a better option05:24
teribi'm upgrading 170 packages on a system i raelly can't even use O_o05:24
flaccidarchangel_: pls put it up on imageshack05:24
flaccidthanks terib05:24
teribimageshack kicks the proverbial ass05:24
flaccidi never knew about it!05:24
teribu been mission out ;-)05:25
nonuda_chemicalvamp: as u wish i will change my session back to kde...05:25
flaccidi have bigtime05:25
cheeseboy chemicalvamp?05:25
archangel_how about photobucket?05:25
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archangel_I am already with them05:25
cheeseboywhat you mean how far?05:26
teribphotobucket'll work too05:26
chemicalvampwhat do you have done? you have vmware installed.. you have made the drive image file? you have booted the kubuntu cd on the emulated hdd?05:26
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teribwho's palyin in vmware05:27
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cheeseboychemicalvamp ive gt vmware a made a partion installed kubuntu to that partion05:27
teribcheeseboy, physical drive partition?05:28
bobstroterib: i use vmware.05:28
flaccidarchangel_: anything i can view on05:28
teribcheeseboy high five, thats the only palce kubuntu'll run for me atm ;-)05:28
teribbobstro cool05:28
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bobstroterib: i *had* ubuntu going in vmware, dapper methinks.05:29
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cheeseboybut because i made only one partion then partioned it in vmware will it not work?05:29
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chemicalvampi forgot the exact command.. cuz i just made a shortcut of it05:29
teribdapper? that anyhting like pebcak05:29
nonuda_chemicalvamp: didnot work either in kde..05:29
bobstroterib: er... what?05:29
teribcheeseboy, is shouldn't 'have' to have a swap partition, but it would surely help05:29
bobstroterib: you didn't like dapper?05:30
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teribbobstro pebcak = problem exists between chair and keyboard05:30
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teribwtf is dapper? ;-)05:30
bobstroterib: yes, i know but it still doesn't make sense.05:30
bobstroer... as in drake?05:30
bobstroawkward silence05:30
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bobstroso you say i've got the pebcak? :)05:30
chemicalvampnonuda_ ide try it out, and figure out what you need to do.. but im sitting here WAITING for anybody at all to tell me what kde application = the gnome application module-assistant and i cant just stop right now, cuz if i do, xserver wont load up again05:31
teribno, i'm saying i dunno wtf a dapper is05:31
Iwonder|toosilly question,i can shutdown as a regular user,maybe your groups are fried?05:31
Black_Catterib: kubuntu is dapper drake :) 6.06 at least05:31
teriboh, kinda like the slutty hedgehog ;-)05:31
Iwonder|toochemicalvamp: i know of none,lsmod,rmmod,modprobe,depmod -a05:32
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bobstrocheeseboy: you told it to use a physical partition?05:32
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archangel_flaccid: http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/archangel757/desktop.jpg05:32
pollyoCan someone check pollyo.gotdns.com for me?05:32
chemicalvampi need a way to build my video drivers kernel05:33
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nonuda_chemicalvamp: i was checking the properties of the launcher link i create in gnome and Link Apllication in kde, its very same...05:33
teribleno work pollyo, or your getting pounded on by everyone ;-)05:33
bobstropollyo: it resolves but no web page if that's what you mean.05:33
archangel_got to go to bed soon05:33
teribletimed out here05:33
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archangel_in a daze05:33
Iwonder|toochemicalvamp: why not use the gnome app other than wasting space with deps?'05:33
chemicalvampnonuda_ try a shortcut with "sudo reboot" in the command line05:33
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nonuda_chemicalvamp: i believe if we sudo halt or sudo shutdown -h now in terminal it will ask for password, how do i set the password in the command line?05:34
philphotohaving difficulties with my comp recognizinng my scanners.  any help?05:34
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pollyoWhat ports would I have to forward 80 and 8080?05:34
teriblejust pull the plug for cryin out loud05:34
pgravesAnyone know the disadvantages of using a FAT32 partition for data within Linux as opposed to a EXT2 or EXT3 partition?05:34
bobstropollyo: for a web server?05:34
teriblepollyo, just 80, but you isp may actually block or filter those05:34
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cheeseboybobstro yes but only 1 which i partioned in vmware05:34
Iwonder|toononuda_: are you sure sudo is needed?05:35
bobstropgraves: portability with windows systems, but it has drawbacks.05:35
flaccidpollyo.gotdns.com has address
Black_Catpgraves: need to defrag, i suppose05:35
trprpgraves: just the disadvantages associated w/ fat in general. its performance in linux is adaquate05:35
bobstropgraves: a lot of annoyances though.05:35
Iwonder|tooyou could chmod 0777 /sbin/shutdown05:35
flaccidoh already checked that soz05:35
nonuda_|wonder|too, not sure..but i have follow what chemicalvamp have said05:35
flaccidpgraves: windows can access it. whereis windows can't access ext* parts05:35
Black_Catpgraves: and you can't set file permissions within it, i think05:35
pollyoOh.. Wait... Let me check my guarddog settings.05:35
chemicalvampIwonder|too cuz i have no way of installing it05:35
bobstropgraves: what are you trying to do, share disk btw windows & linux or?05:35
teriblewindows can access ext2 and ext3 partitions05:36
Iwonder|toononuda_: in console simply type reboot,see what it says05:36
archangel_get the link? flaccid05:36
teriblethere is a native driver for explorer (buggy as shit imo) and explore2fs05:36
Dell190vbgunz: Still no work05:36
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bobstroi2fs works pretty well.05:36
pollyoWhat windows can write to the viruses can write to as well.05:36
meo_I can't get my comp to regognize my other internal HD. When I plug it in and restart, Kubuntu won't start. When I unplug it and restart, everything works fine.05:36
Iwonder|toochemicalvamp: why,lack of net?05:36
flaccidarchangel_: yeah i think thats asking if you wan to do a dist-upgrade to new point version/kernel of ubuntu. what does lsb_release -a say as your version?05:36
nonuda_|wonder|too, it said "need to be root"05:36
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philphotomy comp will not recognize my two scanners, but when I used edgy, they worked fine05:37
pollyoI haven't seen a ext2/3 driver for windows that will work with permissions.05:37
flaccidterible: can it?05:37
pollyoIf you know one let me know.05:37
teriblepollyo ppl worry too much about viri, stay outta da porn and you won't get those ;-)05:37
bobstropollyo: no, not with ntfs permissions.05:37
flaccidterible: it has never for me05:37
trprterible: yeah. i agree. every time i use my external hdd in linux after it has been written to from that driver, there are errors that need fixing.05:37
Iwonder|toononuda_: sudo chmod 0777 /sbin/reboot05:37
chemicalvampIwonder|too not in adept, and i cant apt get it...05:37
pgravesI am building a File server.... or rather, I have already built a file server... it is going to have 2 hard drives mirrored via a linux software raid.... I have had some issues with linux and I got to thinking that maybe my OS & my data should be on separate hard drives05:37
Iwonder|toothen try as user05:37
Dell190does Kubuntu have like a Rescue Disk?05:37
bobstroDell190: the install cd, yes.05:37
teribleDell190 type rescue @ the boot prompt oon the cd05:37
chemicalvampIwonder|too Package module-assistant is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:37
nonuda_|wonder|too, if i type sudo reboot, it will ask for password and the box will reboot normally, what chmod 077 /sbin/reboot?05:38
bobstroDell190: did you try those suggestions on the forum archive?05:38
teriblehow bout someone go bitch slap the update mirrors, 130k/s is for the birds05:38
flaccidterible: you have to install something on win for ext support?05:38
archangel_did you get the link flaccid05:38
flaccidarchangel_: [13:40]  <flaccid> archangel_: yeah i think thats asking if you wan to do a dist-upgrade to new point version/kernel of ubuntu. what does lsb_release -a say as your version?05:39
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meo_I can't get my comp to regognize my other internal HD. When I plug it in and restart, Kubuntu won't start. When I unplug it and restart, everything works fine.05:39
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teribleflaccid, explore2fs give you read access to ext2|3 drives, and there is a driver that works with explorer to give you r/w access, but it's bugged imo05:39
archangel_still dapper05:39
chemicalvampE: Package module-assistant has no installation candidate05:39
flaccidterible: ah so not a good choice anyway and not native05:40
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philphotoanyone have any problems running scanners using feisty?05:40
flaccidarchangel_: it says 6.06.1 ?05:40
dthackermeo_: are they IDE drives?05:40
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archangel_Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS05:40
archangel_Release:        6.0605:41
flaccidarchangel_: maybe its asking you to upgrade to edgy, but i doubt it05:41
Iwonder|toomodule-assistant - tool to make module package creation easier05:41
flaccidarchangel_: what does uname -a return05:41
pgravesGuys, I have two hard drives in my system, my Ubuntu OS boots off of the /boot partition on one of those hard drives. I have all the other patitions of the system mirrored across both hard drives. How can I copy the /boot to the second hard drive's corresponding partition? (I have already made a partition on the second hard drive equal in size to that of /boot, and /boot has its own partition as well). Basically I need to know what05:41
Iwonder|tooresults from apt-cache search05:41
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archangel_Linux archangel 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Feb 1 15:51:56 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux05:42
flaccidarchangel_: you are on same version of me05:42
teriblepgraves copying /boot isn't going yo bring your linux back, u have to either modify the nt boot laoder to include linux, or more easily reinstall a poroper boot laoder to the mbr of the drive the bios is configured to boot from05:42
Black_Catpgraves: line length is limited in irc, you know :)05:42
dthackerphilphoto: since you're not getting an answer, I would try the forums, searching for your model of scanner.  You *do* realize Fiesty is beta?05:42
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oscarmageddonkien es latinoo??05:43
flaccidarchangel_: how did you get to that upgrade screen? i am not being asked myself05:43
chemicalvampIwonder|too it doesnt say not found... it says E: Package module-assistant has no installation candidate05:43
archangel_so, I'm good?05:43
oscarmageddonalguien habla espaol?05:43
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:43
Iwonder|toochemicalvamp:  i have it installed05:43
flaccidanyone know what adept is asking archangel_ to upgrade exactly? http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/archangel757/desktop.jpg05:43
philphotodthacker: yeah, I do know feisty is beta for another few weeks05:43
archangel_it just came up automaticly05:43
meo_no, they are sata drives05:43
Iwonder|tooperhaps its a repos thing?05:43
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flaccidarchangel_: just do the upgrade and find out what its upgrading05:44
flaccidif you want05:44
dthackermeo_: Sorry, I have no experience with SATA drives.05:44
philphotoI'm actually having a problem with vuescan loading up a driver.  I have the driver installed, but the program says it's not loaded.05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cronjob - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
flaccidi assume a new version of kubuntu available means to jump to next release being edgy05:44
archangel_kubuntu 6.1005:44
meo_if they were ide thoughm what would i do?05:44
archangel_yeah, thats edgy isnt it?05:45
flaccidarchangel_: yeah ok. thats up to you, but i have a feeling you have edgy sources05:45
pgravesMaybe I didn't make myself clear... my system BOOTS FINE... its ONLY Ubuntu (No Windows OS on it). However, incase my primary hard drive ever fails I have set-up a software mirror between my primary and secondary hard drives. The only thing not mirrored (due to impossibility) is the /boot partition. However, I did make a partition on the secondary drive equal in size to that of the primary's. The question is how do I make that boot05:45
chemicalvampIwonder|too well i dont sudo: module-assistant: command not found05:45
dthackermeo_: I would check the hardware to make sure I was booting off the master drive, and the second drive was a slave05:45
flaccidarchangel_: pls pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list05:45
dthackernote to self: win lottery. buy modern hardware.  all the cool kids have SATA05:46
teriblepgraves dd05:46
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bobstropgraves: you could just make a partition on each drive bootable, then keep them in sync.05:46
pgravesbobstro, how do I "keep them in sync"?05:46
teribleex. dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb105:46
Iwonder|tooi might have autimatically acquired it during feisty upgrade05:47
teriblebut i wouldn't reccomend that myself05:47
flaccidarchangel_: thats what it is. you went to source-o-matic and put edgy sources in your sources.list05:47
bobstropgraves: rsync perhaps.05:47
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Cosmo_anytime I install anything using synaptic package manager it attemps to install the VMware player and fails then whenever I restart I have to reinstall the NVIDIA driver to be able to boot into kubuntu. How can I fix this? if someone can tell me where to find the log of the install/uninstall I will post it in pastebin05:47
bobstropgraves: is it the OS you're worried about, or your data?05:48
pollyoI do not know what services to allow within guarddog to allow my webserver to be active.05:48
flaccidarchangel_: so either attempt an upgrade or regenerate your sources.list with source-o-matic using dapper sources and then put them in sources.list then run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade05:48
pgravesso.... let me see if I understand properly.... if the "mirror /boot" partition on my secondary hard drive is set as bootable in the MBR... all I have to do is copy everything in /boot to it?05:48
pgravesbobstro, the OS AND the Data are already mirrored, now I just have to make my "mirror" bootable05:48
bobstropollyo: you should just let port 80 through, but your ISP might block it.05:48
archangel_someone did it for me in this IRC. So what do I do?  I have a package in my system tray that's telling me I have updates.05:48
archangel_do I do it?05:48
pgravesDoes it say "Microsoft"?05:48
bobstropgraves: well you should be able to boot off either drive with your grub setup.05:48
teriblearchangel_ kick it05:49
teriblealways works for me05:49
dthackerCosmo_: Is VMware marked as "broken"?05:49
flaccidarchangel_: read my last comment. you have the choice of upgrading or not.05:49
pgravesbobstro, how do I accomplish booting off the secondary drive? How do I copy the /boot to it? Should I just make sure the partition on the second drive is set as bootable and copy everything in /boot to it?05:50
archangel_any cons to doing so? I have cable connection, so speed is not a probblem05:50
Cosmo_dthacker: checking05:50
flaccidupdating to edgy will take time and may not be an easy/smooth process05:50
flaccidarchangel_: you can try. up to you once again..05:50
bobstropgraves: that should work, yes. you have  a separate /boot partiton i'm understanding?05:50
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archangel_lol, I think I'm good for now05:50
pollyoPort 80 TCP ?05:50
Cosmo_dthacker: doesn't show it as broken05:50
archangel_specially this late at night05:51
pollyoor UDP?05:51
bobstropgraves: of course, if the drive grub is installed on fails hard, you may still have work to do.05:51
dthackerCosmo_: so much for the easy call.  What release and what package tool, please?05:51
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bobstropollyo: web server is tcp port 80.05:51
Black_Catpollyo, HTTP :)05:51
teriblepgraves, the only way the second hard drive is going to boot properly is if all the configuration files, namely fstab, are correct05:51
archangel_thanks for your help05:51
archangel_going to pass out now05:51
teribleright behind ya archangel_05:52
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Cosmo_dthacker: I'm using edgy and synaptic package manager05:52
bobstropgraves: are you planning on swapping the drives if it fails or what?05:52
archangel_have a good one folks05:52
inteliwaspevery time i try to start a 3d game, X craps out and restarts05:52
archangel_li la tov  (good night)05:52
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pgravesI have a hard drive, setup with various partitions (one for /home, one for /var, one for /tmp, SWAP, /boot, etc.) and I have a second hard drive that has identical partitions as the primary hard drive. EVERY partitions (EXCEPT /boot) are mirrored using MDs (which I created during Ubuntu Install). So EVERYTHING is mirrored except /boot (due to it not being able to be done). So my data is being backed-up, however, if my primary drive05:53
dthackerCosmo_: Does VMWare show up in the "installed" or "not installed" list?05:53
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bobstropgraves: do you want it to fail automatically, or just use the backup to restore the primary?05:53
Cosmo_dthacker: installed05:54
flaccidnp archangel_ cya05:54
bobstroer, fail over05:54
dthackerCosmo_ : is it "upgradeable", VMWare that is?05:54
pollyosomeone try pollyo.gotdns.com05:55
bobstropgraves: sorry, i thought you said something about not wanting RAID earlier.05:55
pgravesthe idea was that if the primary failed, I reboot and boot off the secondary, unless there is a better method05:55
bobstropollyo: yeah i see a porn stash.05:55
Drooling_Sheep_68.81.43.126 pollyo05:55
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bobstropollyo: actually see a directory listing.05:55
pollyobobstro: Ok.  That is what it shows when I turn off guarddog.05:55
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pollyoWith guarddog back on it doesn't work.05:56
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bobstropollyo: well you want the firewall. turn guarddog back on and fix that.05:56
pollyobobstro: I turned it back on as soon as I got the confirmation of a directory.05:56
nbcbhow to install chinese input? i got skim and scim but can't work05:56
ubotuChinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM05:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:57
pollyoI think I found something05:57
dthackerCosmo_: Sorry, I'm on call and just got paged.   I'm trying to find how VMware might be marked so you can un-mark it.  F05:57
Cosmo_dthacker: no it doesn't show as upgradeable05:57
flaccidpollyo: your site aint responding for me but thats cool05:57
Cosmo_dthacker: np05:57
pollyoflaccid: I turned gaurddog back on..05:57
flaccidwhat is guarddog?05:58
pollyoflaccid:  Maybe the guarddog website will have some information.05:58
bobstropgraves: if you copy everything, then you should be able to set the secondary as your primary and have it work.05:58
pollyoflaccid: firewall software05:58
Iwonder|tooiptables frontend,i think05:58
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bobstropgraves: after you install grub on it that is.05:58
flaccidright well just allow port 80 then05:58
flaccidi think someone already said that lol05:58
bobstropgraves: i'm rsyncing to a network drive on another machine in case the case burns up on my server though. physical separation is good in case of flood or fire.05:59
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bobstropgraves: for what you're doing, it sounds like maybe raid is a good alternative.06:00
pgravesbobstro, so I should install grub on the second partition and then Im done?06:00
Iwonder|tooburn grub to a cdr have 2 options in it?06:01
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nbcbmy SKIM doesn't work06:01
bobstrobobstro: if you plan to swap them, then yes. i think that'd do it. i hope i'm not misunderstanding what you're doing though! do get that /boot copied too. i'd definitely test it.06:01
bobstroheh, pgraves that is.06:01
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:02
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:02
flaccidwhats wrong nbcb06:02
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nbcbi'm trying to get chinese input using scim.. installed and running scim now..but ctrl-space doesn't do anything06:03
flaccidim afraid google is your best option. look up how to use scim06:03
flaccidor try to find another scim user somewhere06:04
flaccidmaybe the shortcut is not ctrl+space06:04
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Iwonder|toomaybe ctrl+space is being used by another app?06:04
bobstropgraves: just re-read this. if you're using raid, won't you add replacement drive and sync them back up though?06:05
flaccidtrue i guess check all shortcuts in kcontrol for conflict06:05
kiwi__how can i install windows onto my pc with linux?06:05
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Iwonder|tookiwi__: do it first06:06
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flaccidkiwi__: i don't think you really can06:06
flaccidwhy not just install it normally06:06
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kiwi__my bro has done it, so i kno for sure theres a way06:07
Iwonder|tookiwi__: you mean dual boot?06:07
Iwonder|tooinstall windows first,then instyall your linux06:08
nbcbooo conflict06:08
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sonoftheclayrkiwi__: install windows first then install ubuntu and when it comes to partiions manually edit it, if you install it wihle you are on here we can help :)06:08
Iwonder|tooif you install windows second you will have A HEADACHE FIXXING GRUB OR TRYING TO TELL NTLOADER TO BOOT TO LINUX06:08
Iwonder|too] oops06:08
Iwonder|toodamn caps lock06:09
flaccidgoddam kate just crashed again during save and i have lost code06:09
kiwi__yea ive herd u can hav a hard time on that06:09
Iwonder|tooflaccid: again?06:09
bobstropgraves: it's likely something's been missed here. i'd suggest spending times in forums on this topic to be safe.06:09
Iwonder|toowhy not use a different editor?06:10
flaccidyes it happens fairly regularly. when i save and reload the page i saved in browser it crashes06:10
flaccidIwonder|too: because i shouldn't have to. and kate is my editor of choice.06:10
Iwonder|tooi've never had luck with kate06:11
flaccidhow can you not have luck with kate?06:11
flaccidthe point is it shouldn't crash.06:11
sonoftheclayrkiwi__: it's fairly easy to do if you have an idea of what your doing. it helps if you write out the partition layout you will use06:12
Iwonder|tooit shouldn't,but it has been crashing for years06:12
flaccidon this distro maybe06:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about notepad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:12
flaccidi don't have any problems with it on *bsd06:12
nbcbi need a notepad like windows do..anything easier than kate?06:12
Iwonder|tooon mandrakeand gentoo06:12
Iwonder|tooi don't use it anymore so i dunno about kubuntu06:13
flaccidnbcb: kwrite06:13
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flaccidi usually use freebsd/pc-bsd06:13
flaccidjust my work computer is still on kubuntu06:13
Iwonder|tooi usually use nano06:13
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nbcbit takes quite long to load..06:13
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flaccidnbcb: it shouldn't06:13
nbcblonger than windows do to load a notepad06:13
Iwonder|tooit shouldn';t nbcb06:14
flaccidnotepad != kwrite/kate06:14
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flaccidbut yes it probably does take longer06:14
Iwonder|tookedit for simple gui06:14
pgravesGuys I just tried to follow some steps for installing grub onto another hard drive but it keeps giving me an error06:15
flaccidnano is tui not gui06:15
Iwonder|toonano is cli06:15
sonoftheclayryeah but it's stil great! maybe mousepad?06:15
neptunepinkmousepad ~= notepad06:15
bobstropgraves: this might be a bit hectic of a place for this topic. i'd suggest searching the forums a bit for more detailed answers. i may well have missed some of what you're trying to do.06:15
pgravesI run Grub, then I type "find /boot/grub/stage1" and it returns "Error 15: File not found" I browsed to /boot/grub/ and there is clearly a file there called stage1........... what gives?06:15
pgravesbobstro can I message you in private?06:16
Iwonder|toopgraves: did you grub-install /dev/?????06:16
flaccidIwonder|too: its also a tui06:16
pgravesthe instructions didnt say that06:16
bobstropgraves: you can, but i'm not a raid guru and i'm suspecting that's what you want.06:16
dthackerhe needs a mirrored rootvg like AIX06:17
bobstropgraves: is this raid 1 done in software?06:17
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bobstropgraves: or are you just after a good backup solution in general?06:17
kiwi__sonoftheclay: yea i would want to take out 80 gb for linux06:18
Iwonder|tootui=terminal user interface?06:18
flaccidtext(ual) user interface06:18
pgravesthe raid1 is done via software via md06:18
se7en11i installed feisty beta and it woked till this morning 246 upgades came and now it cant get internet conection anyone a idea how to fix that06:18
Iwonder|tooi spose that would be acceptable06:18
Iwonder|toonever heard it06:18
sonoftheclayrkiwi__: are you using the alternate or livecd to install it?06:19
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pgravesI am mainly concerned about my data, however if I start working with this linux box more and more and end up configuring it to do a lot of things I'd like to keep all that I setup backed-up as well, hence why Im having the whole disk mirrored06:19
bobstropgraves: perhaps this... http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/887406:19
Iwonder|tooncurses comes to mind with that phrase06:19
dthackerse7en11: and did you install all 246 upgrades?06:19
bobstropgraves: well just keep in mind that alone won't be a good backup solution (though certainly part of one perhaps).06:19
nbcbmy scim isn't working at all.. my shortcut to activate doesn't work06:19
flaccidIwonder|too: yeah thats a typical thing to make TUI with06:19
se7en11nop 4 had a error dthacker06:20
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flaccidand yes tui is a de facto term06:20
Iwonder|toonano isn't ncurses based06:20
Iwonder|toocool learn something all the time06:21
se7en11dthacker: but without internet connection i can't get the missing 406:21
dthackerse7en: is your PC connected to a router?06:21
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tarelerulzHow do you tell if your download of an iso is not curupt ?06:21
dthackercan you ping the router?06:21
bobstrotarelerulz: compare md5 checksums06:21
pgravesNow you're scaring me bobstro06:21
flaccidIwonder|too: i didn't say it was :))!06:22
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Iwonder|toono you didn't06:22
tarelerulzI did compart the checksum with the iso  one from the site  and they did not match .06:22
dthackerse7en11: pop open a terminal and run "sudo ifconfig"06:22
Iwonder|tootarelerulz: that is bad06:22
tarelerulzI use k3b to checksums06:23
tarelerulzit that bad06:23
Iwonder|tootarelerulz: also compare sizes of file online and on your local drive06:23
pgravesbobstro, let me explain to you what I am doing..... I have a lot of files, documents, videos, music, installers, etc. Currently I have very few back-ups, but I want to fix this. I built a inexpensive computer system and equipped it with 2x 320GB SATA Hard drives with the intent of using this as my fileserver. However, I also planned to create CRON jobs that regularly backed-up data from various FTP locations as well.06:23
dthackerwhat does it say after "inet addr"?06:23
bobstropgraves: sorry, it's a bit chaotic here. :) i thought you were after a backup solution, but re-reading it seems you're using RAID 1 software setup and want to know recovery details. suggest you go someplace more authoritative for those details, and keep in mind RAID won't help if your power supply zaps both drives! i use rsync to a separate machine for my backups to provide physical separation.06:23
Iwonder|tooyou may have an incomplete isio06:23
kiwi__sonoftheclayr: livecd06:24
tarelerulzThe iso seem to be the same size as what the torrent site says06:24
bobstropgraves: ah, then DO investigate rsync. only copies deltas across network, so MUCH FASTER than full ftp for big stuff. i keep several hundred GB in sync this way.06:24
se7en11for this i would have to boot into the broken system first dthacker06:24
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bobstrotarelerulz: size won't tell you if the contents are corrupted. use the checksums. if they don't match, it's bad.06:24
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tarelerulzWhat can I do06:25
Iwonder|tootarelerulz: beware ,if someone altered the file the checksum will fail,and may do damage06:25
tarelerulzjust redownload it06:25
pgravesbobstro, can you talk to me more in private please06:25
dthackerpgraves, we back up an entire software repository over a Wan cross country with rsync06:25
bobstrotarelerulz: just download it again.06:25
sonoftheclayrkiwi__: i haven't actually used the lived to install ubuntu, so i'm not going to be able to help much there06:25
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bobstropgraves: i'm happy to help, but others here can likely offer good (if not better) advice too!06:25
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se7en11dthacker: i would like to know what i have to do before i boot in again06:26
pgravesbobstro, are you receiving my PMs?06:26
dthackerse7en11: does it a) not boot or b) boot and not connnect to the network?06:27
sonoftheclayrtarelerulz: get the torrent for the file from the website and open it up in ktorrent, when it asks you where to download it to select the same directory that the iso is in, ktorrent should scan the iso that is there for non-downloades/broken segments and download tem again06:27
bobstropgraves: ah sorry, tried konversation out tonite. :)06:27
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bobstropgraves: sent you one now.06:27
Iwonder|tooare ya'll registered/identified?06:27
se7en11dthacker: b) boot and not connect to the network06:28
kiwi__sonoftheclayr: its alright then, thanks for the try tho, ill figure it out sooner or later06:28
dthackerse7en11: your problem could be caused by several things, so I can't tell you ahead of time.06:28
tarelerulzI had ktorrent check data  integrity and it said numbe of not download to be 006:29
sonoftheclayrkiwi__: as long as you don't click confirm or something after you messed it up :) just resize the windows partition and there should be an option to automatically resize the free space but don't hold me to that06:29
dthackerse7en11: but in general, I would examine your network configuration to see why the computer no longer connects06:29
se7en11dthacker: probably because of the errors while the upgrad06:29
sonoftheclayrtarelerulz: i'm all out of ideas then, download it again but using ktorrent to "patch it up" worked with my opensuse cd (i didn't like it by the way!)06:30
pollyoI turned on every option in Guarddog and still can not get to my webserver.  When I turn off guarddog it gives me no problem.06:30
Iwonder|toose7en11: check ifconfig for proper ip,check route for proper gw and if you are using wifi check iwconfig for proper essid,channel,mode06:30
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se7en11dthacker: ok i will ty06:30
Iwonder|toopollyo:  are you turning on options in correct zone?06:31
pollyoIwonder|too: Internet Zone06:31
Iwonder|toois there a reference for interface?06:31
dthackerand may linus have mercy on your soul.....06:31
tarelerulzatl linux tracker it says I should reigister ,but it still lets me donwload it06:32
pollyoIwonder|too: Yes.  ath006:32
Iwonder|tooi was talking to someone else about guarddog,they had to create a new zone and add rules,i didn't understand why06:33
kiwi__sonoftheclayr: ok, ill do a little research before i begin, thanks again ;)06:33
pollyoIwonder|too: I put a checkmark in every option to allow.  I added HTP 80 and 808006:33
Iwonder|toopollyo: does netstat -l show it listening on 80?06:34
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pollyoIwonder|too: It has a list of things with Listen state06:35
Iwonder|tooany http or 80?06:35
dthackerfrack! stupid pager06:35
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Iwonder|tooif it svrolled to fast |less06:35
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pollyoIwonder|too: I do not know where to look.06:36
tarelerulzdoes Ktorrent use torrent files06:37
pollyoIwonder|too: It has Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State06:37
pollyoIwonder|too: Later in the list it adds I-node and PAth06:37
Iwonder|toolocal address should show port after :06:38
Iwonder|toothe first few lines06:38
pollyoIwonder|too: For localhost:2208?06:39
sonoftheclayrtarelerulz: yes06:39
tarelerulzwhere dose it put them06:39
Iwonder|toocp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN06:39
Iwonder|toosee the *:ssh?06:40
Iwonder|toomeans its listening for ssh connections06:40
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sonoftheclayrtarelerulz: it depends if you paste the url into ktorrent, in which case it saves them to /tmp or if you downloaded it and opened it with ktorrent06:40
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Cosmo_here is the error it gives me when I try to uninstall the VMware player http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14820/06:40
Iwonder|tooyou should have one with :http or :8006:40
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tarelerulzI got to the torrent site find the torrent file then it ask me if I want to save it or open with ktorrent06:41
sonoftheclayrtarelerulz: open it06:41
Iwonder|toopollyo: try netstat -l|grep http06:42
tarelerulzKtorrent is open06:43
pollyoIwonder|too: Trying it now.06:43
pollyoIwonder|too: Nothing06:43
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tarelerulzazerurus seem to put the torrents where I can find them06:43
Iwonder|tooturn guarddog off and try it06:43
tarelerulznever found them with ktorrent06:43
Iwonder|tootarelerulz: there is setting in ktorrent so you can decide where your stuff goes06:44
pollyoIwonder|too: Nothing.  But when I go to pollyo.gotdns.com I get something.06:44
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pollyoIwonder|too: Can you see anythign at pollyo.gotdns.com06:45
tarelerulzIt shows me where I want to put the files or file06:45
tarelerulzask me everytime06:45
the_hammerhey all trying to get this here06:45
the_hammerwget http://www.doeweling.com/files/ubuntu/amsn/tcl8.5_8.5.0-1~neto3_i386.deb06:45
the_hammerwget http://www.doeweling.com/files/ubuntu/amsn/tk8.5_8.5.0-1~neto3_i386.deb06:45
Iwonder|tooyes pollyo 2 directorys06:46
tarelerulzI just don't see torrent in the dirtoriy at all06:46
the_hammerit says 404 error not found06:46
tarelerulzI had to save one there06:46
pollyoIwonder|too: Same thing..06:46
tarelerulznow it says it merged them06:46
the_hammergetting this information form here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21668906:46
the_hammeris there another link to getting those installed?06:46
Iwonder|toook pollyo does guarddog ask you for password?06:46
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pollyoIwonder|too: Yes when you start it up.06:46
pollyoIwonder|too: Did I need to do sudo for the netstat?06:47
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DaSkreech how do I pull up a smb:/ for aparticular computer?06:47
Iwonder|tooi was wondering if perhaps it wasn't writing to iptables when you apply06:47
pollyoIwonder|too: Ok06:47
pollyoIwonder|too: Could rate limits have something to do with it?06:48
the_hammerman this is horble i got the amsn 0.97b but unable to work cuz i cant get the tcl and otrher files06:48
Iwonder|tooi would think not pollyo as it works with it off06:48
sonoftheclayrthe_hammer: are you compiling it from source?06:48
Iwonder|tooi do have an idea06:49
pollyoIwonder|too: Ok06:49
the_hammerwas folloing it from that page06:49
Iwonder|toowhat is your ufconfig ath0 ip?06:49
the_hammermissing the files tho cuz i got the 404 error06:49
tarelerulzktorrent has tmp dirtory for files and I found just torrent in it06:49
Iwonder|toosomething like 192.168.1.?06:49
pollyoIwonder|too: I have my ifconfig up.  there are a few things listed.06:50
Iwonder|tooinet address06:50
pollyoIwonder|too: Yes my ath006:50
Iwonder|toook i wonder if guarddog views that as local traffic?06:50
the_hammeri dunno what i did but im fixed06:50
the_hammerhaha ok have a good night06:50
pollyoIwonder|too: Are you familiar with any of the other firewalls in the repo?06:50
pollyoIwonder|too: It does not have to be guarddog for me.06:51
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Iwonder|tooi rely on my router for protection,i don't use a software based firewall06:51
pollyoIwonder|too: Ok.  I have a router.06:52
Iwonder|toowell my routers06:52
flaccidi gtg06:52
pollyoIwonder|too: Do I have to setup anything special in my router?06:52
Iwonder|toopollyo: you should have to forward port 80 tcp to your local ip,but it looks like you have allready or are dmz'd06:53
pollyoIwonder|too: I forwarded 80 and 808006:53
Iwonder|toothats all that is required06:53
tarelerulzWhere is the ubuntu torrent site06:54
pollyoIwonder|too: Security on the router has the options of: block anonymous internet rquests, Filter Multicast, Filter Internet NAT redirection, Filter IDENT06:54
Iwonder|tooand if thats all that is forwarded your router will block other traffic06:54
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pollyoIwonder|too: Yes06:54
pollyoIwonder|too: So my router should be blocking eveything that isn't forwarded?06:55
Iwonder|tooi've tried them checked and unchecked,only difference i seen is checked it makes it harder to analyze network errors06:55
pollyoIwonder|too: Ok06:55
Iwonder|tooit will block inbound non forwarded traffic06:55
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Iwonder|tooi bet you can't dcc send06:55
pollyoIwonder|too: I wouldn't even know how. <Grin>06:56
CantthinkofnameSo, I just upgraded my dapper to edgy.  Now my mouse wont work.  Can anyone help?06:56
Iwonder|tooor send a file via yahoo06:56
pagan0neCosmo_: any luck with dthacker?06:56
pollyoIwonder|too: You mean my email account?06:56
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Iwonder|toono email should work06:57
pollyoIwonder|too: With my software firewall off?06:57
Iwonder|toobut everything else will fail unless you forward it06:57
pollyoIwonder|too: Let me check if the email program can check.06:57
pollyoIwonder|too: I was using evolution the otherday.06:57
pollyoIwonder|too: LEt me see if I can check now.06:57
Iwonder|tooright click my nick and dcc sxend me something06:58
tarelerulzNine minutes we shall see if I get the right cd06:58
bastidraZorfeisty is nice. i can't wait for the upgrade to get out of beta06:58
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Iwonder|toofeisty seems lighter06:58
tarelerulzkubuntu has never worked right on my laptop06:58
tarelerulzmost of gotten bad iso06:59
Iwonder|tooi got mine from mirrors06:59
bastidraZori tend to put a really test the limits with many applications running.. it does great for my demand06:59
tarelerulzinstall on my big computer fine . I really need to learn about chechsum and other ways to see if it is not curupts06:59
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pollyoIwonder|too: Ok.  I tried it and it is sitting at not started07:00
pollyoIwonder|too: Is that because of my end or your end?07:00
Iwonder|toook thats good your router blocks things07:00
bastidraZoropen some ports man07:01
Iwonder|too\your end07:01
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pollyoIwonder|too: Ok.  Would it have worked if a software firewall was setup in addition to the router?07:01
Cosmo_pagan0ne: actually I think I found kind of a brute way of doing it sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/info/vmware* then I ran sudo apt-get remove vmware-player and that seemed to get rid of it07:01
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Cosmo_I mean sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/info/vmware-player*07:02
pollyoIwonder|too: Does the software open up a port on the router?07:02
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bastidraZorforwarding ports is fun and easy07:03
tarelerulzIf I use the ubuntu install cd will it corrent grub ?07:04
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tarelerulzI have been have that problem my grub miss up and I can't boot windows anymore07:04
pagan0neCosmo_: that seemed to help, but it leaves apt a mess on my system07:04
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aneesHi...I've a problem07:04
Cosmo_is there a way to change how much time that Grub gives you to choose the OS?07:05
aneesI attached a new hard drive with my kubuntu drive...but the drives are not mounted07:05
tarelerulzYes it is easy07:05
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Cosmo_pagan0ne: like I said it's kind of a brute method07:05
pagan0neCosmo_: i got it when i told dpkg to --force-all remove it aswell!07:05
Iwonder|toono pollyo ports in router must be manually done] 07:05
aneeshow can I mount my new drives on kubuntu07:05
tarelerulzjust look at in /boot/grub/menu.lst07:06
Iwonder|tooman mount07:06
aneesok let me see it07:06
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pagan0neCosmo_: thanks for the help, if your apt is still kicking out errors try a "sudo dpkg --remove --force-all (packagename)" should fix it07:06
pollyoIwonder|too: I do not know how it works.  For example how do the browsers work fine from multiple machines using the same router without forwarding?07:07
pollyoIwonder|too: You are attempting to send me something.07:07
pollyoIwonder|too: I got the request.07:07
Iwonder|tooas a test07:07
Iwonder|tooits an empty text file07:07
pollyoIwonder|too: Ok07:07
Iwonder|took you can cancel07:07
pollyoIwonder|too: I accepted for the test.07:08
pollyoIwonder|too:  It says two bytes..07:08
pollyoIwonder|too: Isn't starting though.07:08
Iwonder|toopollyo: good question,i think its because the browsers send out a request to be sent to07:08
pagan0neCosmo_: i could hug you.... :D07:08
pollyoIwonder|too: Would this test have worked with guarddog being setup correctly?07:09
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Iwonder|toowhereas if someone is attempting to get in the router blocks them07:09
Iwonder|tooi dunno pollyo07:09
pollyoIwonder|too: Ok07:09
pollyoIwonder|too: Let me check something.07:10
Iwonder|tooi have sent files yesterday,it may be my ports07:10
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tarelerulzThanks god for checksum07:12
tarelerulzoff to install ubuntu to my laptop guys thanks for your help07:12
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pollyoIwonder|too: Can you try to send that file again?07:13
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pollyoIwonder|too: Still no go..07:14
hendauscan anyone help me please, if i want to hear a ram song from a site it doesnot work07:14
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pollyoIwonder|too: I tried to setup guarddog again.07:14
pollyoIwonder|too: I might check some other softwrae firewalls as well.07:14
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Iwonder|toopollyo: you might want to learn iptables07:15
pollyoIwonder|too: I'll check that out as well.07:16
aneeshi ...I am having problem with mounting my drives07:16
aneesanyone help me plz07:16
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MuJwhat's the problem?07:16
Iwonder|tooanees: which drives?07:16
aneesI've attached a hard drive...but the drives are not mounted in kubuntu07:17
Iwonder|tooanees:  did you checkout man mount07:17
aneesyes...i tried07:17
aneesbut unable to succeed07:17
Iwonder|toowhat type drives?07:17
aneesmy C: D: E: Drives07:17
Iwonder|toowhat filesystem?07:17
hendausIwonder|too, i open a site and i click on a .ram file and doesnot work,can u help me please07:18
Iwonder|too.ram is that real audio?07:19
hendausi have realplayer 10 realmedia but it doesnot work with .ram files07:19
Iwonder|tooanees: i dunno what /dev is sata but the systax is mount -t ntfs /dev/??? /somedirectory07:20
Iwonder|toohendaus: never seen one try google .ram07:20
hendausIwonder|too,  i am newbie on this linux, sorry i need help07:21
Iwonder|toofor instance my ide drive is mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/winc07:21
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kalorindoes anyone have any idea why X would never put my monitors into power savings mode?07:22
aneesyes i dit it07:23
aneesbut the result is nill07:23
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Iwonder|toohendaus: its a real audio file07:23
Iwonder|tooi however don't know why it won't play07:24
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Iwonder|tooanees: what you mean?07:24
MuJsata drives are /dev/sd??07:25
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hendausIwonder|too,  yes is a real media file .rm and .ram07:25
MuJif you try to mount hd?? you'll fail07:26
Iwonder|tooi thought sd was scsi07:26
aneesIwonder|too I try to mount the dirves07:26
aneesbut it said some permission problems07:26
MuJuse sudo07:26
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Iwonder|tooanees: what command did you use?07:26
Iwonder|toothe command i typed was an example07:26
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aneesmount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /home/anees/sda2/07:28
MuJadd sudo07:28
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto07:28
Hrontoreokay im wanting to install a deb but im not so sure about how to do it07:28
Iwonder|toook does /home/anees/sda2 exisyt?07:28
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Iwonder|tooHrontore: right click,install hopefilly07:29
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Hrontoreim trying to install frost wire, when i click download it opens the file in kate,07:30
tarelerulzHow would you do checksum on cd ?07:30
HrontoreKate wont save a binary file07:30
MuJHrontore: right click, save target as..07:30
Iwonder|tooyeah Hrontore save link as07:30
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Iwonder|tooyour file associations are messed up07:30
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tarelerulzI had to install java myself and then install frostwire myself07:31
MuJmm.. and?07:31
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tarelerulzOnce i did that It worked fine.07:32
aneesyes it exists07:32
tarelerulzGood luck with  frostwire Hrontore07:32
Iwonder|toook anees prefix your mount command with sudo,as in sudo mount -t ntfs,,,,,,,,,07:32
pollyoThis is great now adept will not even download.07:33
HrontoreWhy did you have problems with it tarelerulz?07:33
hendaussomebody help me please!07:34
Iwonder|toopollyo: guarddog can block that07:34
tarelerulzfrostwire did not know where to look for java .07:34
Iwonder|toohendaus: google is your friend07:34
tarelerulzI just installed it into where frostwire would look07:34
MuJhendaus: well tell us how and we'll see07:34
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pollyoIwonder|too: What does it use HTP or FTP?07:34
Iwonder|tooboth i think pollyo07:34
hendausIwonder|too, the icon of konqueror is beside the k-menu,how can replace it with firefox?07:34
hendausIwonder|too,  i mean on quick launch07:35
Iwonder|tooin the panel?07:35
Iwonder|toodrag and drop for quick launch,if regular panel,rightclick panel,panel menu,add apllication07:35
tarelerulzany of you install moblock?07:36
hendausMuJ, thanx, but i have realplayer 10 realmedia and cannot open any .ram and .rm files,maybe it needs the codecs07:36
Iwonder|toohendaus: open adept search restricted07:36
aneesIwonder|too I tried sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /home/anees/sda2/  after unmounting...07:36
Iwonder|tooyou should see some restrict codecs07:36
Iwonder|tooany luck anees?07:37
aneesbut again it appers You do not have enough permissions to read file:///home/anees/sda207:37
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Iwonder|tooanees: it mounts but you can't access the directory?07:37
tarelerulzdon't mplayer read realplayer formats07:37
Iwonder|toodunno i hate real player formats07:38
hendausIwonder|too,  ok now i have konqueror and firefox,how can i del the konqueror07:38
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Iwonder|tooright click delete07:38
Hrontoreokay, how do i find frostwire now that I've installed it?07:38
Admiral_Chicagotarelerulz: no realplayer has a stand alone player afaik07:38
hendausIwonder|too,  ok thanx , ok restricted07:38
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Iwonder|tooanees: ls -l /home/anees/sda2 see who owns it07:38
tarelerulzI know it does have stand alone play ,but that don't mean mplayer can't play them07:38
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nonudahow do we setup apt-get to update or download the packages from another kubuntu box? rather then normal way (from the net) is it possible?07:40
hendausIwonder|too,  ok there xrestricted and linux restricted modules07:41
hendausxen restricted07:41
aneesit is root root07:42
aneesi changed ownership with chown anees sda207:42
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Iwonder|toohendaus: try w32codecs07:44
Aloneaok, I am trying to watch a trailer and the video is loading fine, but I have no sound07:44
Iwonder|tooAlonea: what are you watching it with?07:44
pollyoVersion upgrade is showing up in Adept.07:44
hendausIwonder|too,  it is not on adept07:44
AloneaIwonder|too: the MPlayer plugin thing for mozilla07:45
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AloneaIwonder|too: its Quicktime HD07:45
Iwonder|tooAlonea: not familiar with it perhaps there are sound engine settings07:45
AloneaIwonder|too: have no idea. think this is the link: http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mo/atworldsendtrailer_720.qtl07:46
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Iwonder|toohendaus: no results for w32?07:46
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Hrontoreokay, frost wire will start to load but wont open what does this mean?07:46
Hrontoredo i need to restart?07:47
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Iwonder|tooHrontore: generally not07:49
Iwonder|tooAlonea: i dunno,nothing i have will play it07:49
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DaSkreechAlonea: Hiya07:50
aneesIwonder|too i changed the group ownership to anees07:50
Iwonder|tooapt-cache search w3207:50
aneesbut again it didn't work07:50
unix_infidel you need to setup repos07:50
tarelerulzis there a way to install ubuntu from usb minihard drive?07:50
Iwonder|toow32codecs - win32 binary codecs07:50
aldinhow do i see which locale i use... something like echo $locale07:50
AloneaDaSkreech: hey07:51
Hrontorethnx for the help07:51
AloneaIwonder|too: ok, I got it to just download the file and it played in Kaffeine just fine...07:51
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Iwonder|tooyeah hendaus look in your repos list and enable the dark ones then update07:51
Iwonder|tooweird Alonea wouldn't for me07:52
hendausIwonder|too,  where?07:52
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Iwonder|tooin adept at top adept,repositories07:53
aldinhelp needed echo $locale, en_US.utf8 stuff, ho do i find it out?07:53
Iwonder|tooright click the dark one,enable07:53
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AloneaIwonder|too: download or sound?07:54
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AloneaIwonder|too: yeah...definately wierd...at least it worked after I downloaded it. Maybe something to do with HD factors or something..who knows07:55
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Iwonder|toono telling07:56
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ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)08:04
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aneesIwondeer|too I am fed up with my drives08:05
aneesI am still unable to mount my drives08:05
Daskreech2anees: What's up?08:05
flaccidanyone recenty done a dapper to edty upgrade ?08:05
aneesI attached a sata drive...but drives are not mounted08:06
Daskreech2anees: How are you mounting them?08:06
aneesI tried with mount command08:06
aneesbut unable to access them08:06
flaccidcan you remember which kernel version you had when you upgraded?08:06
Daskreech2anees: Where did you mount them to?08:06
aneesall the drives are at ntfs08:06
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Daskreech2flaccid: some 2.6.17  kernel08:06
Daskreech2anees: You can't even see them>08:06
Iwonder|tooaness type mount08:06
aneesi tried it08:07
aneesi mount them08:07
Iwonder|toosee if they did in fact mont08:07
aneesbut unable to access them08:07
Iwonder|toojust mount08:07
Daskreech2anees: What error do you get?08:07
aneessudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /home/anees/sda2/08:07
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flaccidright i'm on08:07
aneesI can see a lock on drive08:07
Daskreech2anees: What happend if you press alt+F2 -> kdesu konqueror sda2 ?08:07
Iwonder|tooanees: ls /home/anees/sda208:08
flaccidFreeBSD lister.dev.xhost.com.au 6.1-RELEASE-p11 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p11 #3: Wed Dec 20 18:51:13 PST 2006     root@PCBSD.localhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PCBSDv1.3  i38608:08
flaccidoops wrong computer08:08
aneesand whenever i tried to open it a message appears You don not have enough permissions to read08:08
flaccidLinux IONATAEUS 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Feb 1 15:51:56 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux08:08
aneesyes it is here08:08
flaccidwonder why i'm earlier08:08
Daskreech2anees: ah ok08:08
Iwonder|tooanees: chown -R aness /home/aness/sda208:09
Daskreech2anees: Two ways08:09
Daskreech2anees: one way is easy one way is harder (right now)08:09
Daskreech2anees: alt+F2 -> kdesu konqueror sda208:09
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aneesyes i tried alt + F208:10
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aneesit asked me for password but didnt show anything08:10
flaccidDaskreech2: was your system stable after - successful upgrade?08:10
Daskreech2anees: you put in your password?08:10
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aneesi changed the ownership also to anees08:10
Daskreech2flaccid: not too bad08:10
aneesi typed my password08:10
Daskreech2 KDE kept crashing but I fixed that08:11
aneesa window open but no data there08:11
Iwonder|tooanees did you -R ?08:11
aneesblank window08:11
Iwonder|tooso you change filers inside also?08:11
Daskreech2anees: from a terminal do a sudo ls ~/sda208:11
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flaccidok i think i'll try it to see if it fixes my few bugs08:11
flaccidhow long yours take?08:12
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aneesI am using ubuntu08:13
Daskreech2anees: see files with sudo ls ?08:13
Daskreech2anees: you could have mentioned that before :)08:14
aneesIwondertoo I did it with -R08:14
aneesalso mounted it again08:14
aneesman sorry for it08:14
Iwonder|too-R helped?08:14
aneesIwonder|too: ye08:15
Daskreech2anees: gksudo nautilus sda208:15
Iwonder|tooits easy to forget linux doesn't do recursive automatically08:15
aneesDaskreech2:  it works08:16
aneesu r genius08:16
tarelerulzgrub missed up on me and  told grub where to find windows and it started running dell configure tool08:16
Daskreech2I'm also informed now :-)08:16
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tarelerulzI have to partition one is back up and the other is where windows is stored08:19
rvdHi, i'm having a bit of trouble with beryl.. i have no menubars, have snooped around but havent found the solution anywhere :(08:20
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livenicely_so much disturbed due to this message08:21
livenicely_"kppp could not prepare a ppp log . its very likely that pppd was started with out the de bug option . with out this option its very difficult to find out ppp problems so you should turn on the debug option."08:21
livenicely_" the pppd deamon died unexpectidly exit ststus 16"08:21
rvdim running feisty08:21
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flaccid1168 upgraded, 124 newly installed, 64 to remove and 42 not upgraded. 1106MB to get dang!08:22
livenicely_so much disturbed due to this message08:22
livenicely_"kppp could not prepare a ppp log . its very likely that pppd was started with out the de bug option . with out this option its very difficult to find out ppp problems so you should turn on the debug option."08:22
livenicely_" the pppd deamon died unexpectidly exit ststus 16"08:22
flaccidlets see how long this takes08:22
flaccidlivenicely_: check /var/log/ppp.log ?08:22
Daskreech2flaccid: Yeah I know08:23
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flaccidlucky im on 8Mbps08:23
rvd_Hi, i'm having a bit of trouble with beryl.. i have no menubars, have snooped around but havent found the solution anywhere :( can anyone help?08:23
tarelerulzMan you guy should watch some aqua teen humger force08:23
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rvd_tarelerulz: isn't that the one with a burger and some frenchfries??08:24
tarelerulzYes that is the one rvd08:25
flaccidhmm its speeding along with the simultaneous downloading08:25
rvd_haha it's insane :P08:25
tarelerulzYes is is one of the funnyest one I have seen around.08:25
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rvd_havent really seen an episode yet.. One of my friends just told me about it hehe08:26
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rvd_think i'll check it out :D08:26
tarelerulzWell, get a dvdr I mean dvd haha of them08:26
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rvd_no one can help with the BERYL problen?? :(08:27
flaccidmaybe try #beryl08:28
rvd_flaccid: thanks :D08:28
posingaspopularrvd: #ubuntu-effects08:28
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:28
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neptunepinkso this beryl.... is it like screen, or something?08:29
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ranjanberyl is a composite manager and windows manager rolled into one08:30
neptunepinkHa! Who needs X? I have my virtual terminals! :D08:32
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ranjangood for u08:33
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flaccidneptunepink: then why are you using kubuntu?08:33
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anees_flaccid: i need some of your help08:34
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anees_i have ubuntu and i want to mount my drives08:35
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:35
anees_a genius guy told me this commmand gksudo nautilus sda208:35
flaccidthat guide there is good for all fs types08:35
anees_it open my drive but i want to mount my drives permanent08:35
flaccidare you on ubuntu or kubuntu?08:35
flaccidto mount drives perm. use /etc/fstab as per the above guide08:36
rvd_anees: it's no sweat to set up the fstab :) Just did it myself, and I'm a total newbie :)08:36
anees_i have ubuntu08:36
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the_hammerhey all hardware issues here08:38
the_hammeri have a Ge-Force 7600 GS08:38
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anees_flaccid: can u plz tell me the command08:39
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flaccidanees_: i did08:39
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the_hammereverywhere else i can find including invidia settings it reads correctly08:39
the_hammerbut here08:40
anees_i've opned this file08:40
the_hammerSysInfo: Linux 2.6.17-11-generic |  Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz 2047.860 MHz | Bogomips: 8195.76 | Mem: 901/1011M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 72.29G Free: 63.09G | Procs: 104 | Uptime: 7 mins 4 secs | Load: 0.06 0.24 0.15  | Vpenis: 64.2 cm | Vboobies: 44 | Screen: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0392 (rev a1) @ 1024x768 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 0.16M Out: 0.01M08:40
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kalorinthe_hammer: I hate you with my envy08:40
kalorinhow's it handle that E6300?08:40
flaccidanees_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-80128df9c1c4215d74e3f016b5cd2c2352da247c08:40
the_hammernicely :)08:40
kalorinwanting very  much to get one to call my own08:40
the_hammervery fast and smooth08:40
anees_flaccid: what should i change there08:40
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flaccidanees_: read it08:41
the_hammeronly problem im having is display probs08:41
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Cosmo_how do I fix this: every time I reboot kubuntu loads into the command line mode instead of the GUI unless I run ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9775-pkg1.run then once that has run I can reboot into the GUI but the next time I restart it does the same thing again08:46
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kalorinthe_hammer: what video card?08:47
kalorinI've got an ATI x700 and it's not a lot of fun08:47
kalorinmy workstation at work as an nvidia quadra 550 or something such and does a pretty good job08:47
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wolferinecan someone help with my samba sharing?08:48
wolferinemight be something real simple, but I cannot write to my remote drive08:49
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wolferinepermissions are correct08:49
the_hammere-GeForce 7600 GS08:49
flaccidwhat os is the remote drive, wolferine?08:49
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wolferineboth are ubuntu, this one is a workstation, other is server08:49
kalorininteresting I was considering ordering a 7600GT08:50
flaccidfirst check the fs perms08:50
flaccidon the directory08:50
wolferinethe remote one you mean08:50
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flaccidand/or file in question08:50
wolferinelet me confirm08:50
flaccidlocation of where you are trying to write08:50
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the_hammereverywhere else its fine but i goto a term and it gives the unknown thing at lspci08:50
flaccidpastebin your smb.conf for me i and i'll check that too08:50
the_hammerSysInfo: Linux 2.6.17-11-generic |  Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz 2047.860 MHz | Bogomips: 8195.76 | Mem: 901/1011M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 72.29G Free: 63.09G | Procs: 98 | Uptime: 17 mins 51 secs | Load: 0.01 0.06 0.08  | Vpenis: 64.2 cm | Vboobies: 44 | Screen: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0392 (rev a1) @ 1024x768 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 0.35M Out: 0.03M08:50
the_hammer nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0392 (rev a1)08:51
wolferinesure, one sec08:51
the_hammeri wanna fix that i cant play any linux games or anything08:51
flaccidthe_hammer: may not be the reason08:51
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the_hammeri installed wine so i play age of empires and it wont go ither08:52
the_hammersays something about color08:52
flaccidcorrect driver and xorg settings?08:52
the_hammernot sure08:52
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the_hammerim noob heh08:52
DocTomoeHm, trying it here as well: For some wicked reason, changes I do to my grub menu.lst are not honoured, the grub menu after startup is not affected. Any suggestions how  get the changes recognized?08:52
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flaccidDocTomoe: iirc you need to save them in grub console ?08:53
kalorinhave you tried pulling the nvidia closed source drivers?08:53
the_hammeris there also a way to save my entire linux install so if i crashed i can just install dvd of my install now?08:53
kalorinthat helped me a lot08:53
flaccidor your grub is in boot sector08:53
kalorinati drivers are MUCh faster than the free ones08:53
DocTomoeflaccid: how to find out?08:53
kalorinnot easily08:53
kalorinwell if you have a 2nd drive08:53
flaccidDocTomoe: can't remember sorry08:54
the_hammeri just have the 1 drive08:54
N0Lif3Hey guys, I just acquired a laptop today (SOTEC 3000series. 1.33Ghz celeron proc). When using it in Windows, I noticed that the brightness was a bit high. So I surveyed the keyboard and noticed Fn+F6 is suppose to lower brightness and Fn+F7 is suppose to raise brightness (F6 has blue symbols below it of a down arrow and sun right next to it, F7 is same but with arrow up). The key combo didn't do anything and the brightness is still hig08:54
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wolferineflaccid, http://pastebin.ca/43240008:54
N0Lif3What can I do?08:54
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: in windows or linux?08:54
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N0Lif3sonoftheclayr: both08:54
wolferinethere is my smb.conf, as well as my listed of permissions08:54
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: want to swap laptops? mine isn't bright enough lol08:55
N0Lif3sonoftheclayr: lol.08:55
N0Lif3so, is there anything I can do to lower the brightness?08:55
kalorinyeah hard to do that08:56
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wolferineflaccid, I am trying to copy to the ~/FTP dir08:56
the_hammernow i cnat even get my game to spit out the error it did insted i get this root@duocore2:/home/hammer/Desktop/Empire.Earth.[KAOS] # wine Empire Earth.exe08:56
the_hammerwine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Empire.exe": Module not found08:56
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flaccidwolferine: try writable = yes in the share in smb.conf08:56
kalorinyeah wine I don't mess with much sorry08:56
kalorinhave you tried the wine.org site?08:56
kalorinack 3am08:57
kalorintime for sleeping08:57
kalorinnight folks08:57
wolferineflaccid, still have axx denied08:58
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: have you installed the drivers for your graphics card?08:59
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flaccidare you loggin in as the right user?08:59
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flaccidits easier to use the [homes]  share08:59
N0Lif3sonoftheclayr: On Windows, I'm sure the graphics drivers were installed.08:59
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sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: what sort of card is it?09:00
N0Lif3sonoftheclayr: it's a laptop. Integrated..09:00
N0Lif3the drivers were SIO.. some number or other09:00
wolferineso doesnt the name inside the []  really matter flaccid ?09:00
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flaccidwolferine: oh you need security = user as well09:01
N0Lif3I forgot, but the laptop is a "SOTEC 3000 series" so that may help09:01
wolferine(they are both the same username on each system)09:01
flaccidin global09:01
flaccidwolferine: http://samba.org - documentation09:01
flacciddon't use security = share09:01
flaccidits harder to set up correctly09:01
wolferinesorry, your losing me09:01
wolferinedoes the name in between the [] s matter?09:02
flaccidits explained in the doco :)09:02
wolferinei have been over the doc09:02
wolferinemore than once09:02
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pollyoAnyone know why I have to turn off guarddog to access my webserver?09:02
flaccidthen you should understand this i guess09:02
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: are you able to change the contrast?09:02
wolferineok, so in [homes]  what is that directed into?09:02
flaccidits starts with [global]  then changes to share when you [dowhatever] 09:02
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wolferineflaccid, well thanks do your help anyways09:02
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flaccid[homes]  is like a special share09:03
wolferinecan I get someone to help with my samba shares?09:03
flaccidam i not helping?09:03
wolferinei wasnt sure09:03
flaccidif you can't do the config manually. use the gui in kcontrol for samba09:03
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wolferinei cannot get a gui working09:03
N0Lif3sonoftheclayr: Haven't tried, there is no Fn+ combo for contrast09:03
wolferineand I dont want to really09:04
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flaccidwolferine: did you read this section? http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ServerType.html09:04
wolferinei want to JUST be able to copy onto my server09:04
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flaccidthen you need to understand what you need to do09:04
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wolferinethats why I am here...09:04
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: just guessing :) i have a good article here on monitor calibration if you want to look at it09:04
flaccidbut you said you read the documentation that would take a few days to do so...09:04
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the_hammerdoes this look ok http://pastebin.ca/432415 its from here /etc/X11xorg.conf09:05
rvdback :)09:05
N0Lif3sonoftheclayr: sure. if it has laptop information, i'll look at it09:05
wolferineflaccid, you appear to be getting off track, I appreciate the help you have offered upto now, so thank you09:05
flaccidwolferine: i changed it for you http://pastebin.ca/43241709:05
flaccidoff track?09:05
flaccidcan anyone offer better help/spoonfeed?09:06
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: i don't think it's laptop specific but it does look useful, i'm going through it no http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/07/224424209:06
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pollyoAnyone familiar with guarddog and having a webserver with it?09:07
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tinyxDoes anybody know how I get get amaroK to play MP3's?09:09
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flaccid!mp3 > tinyx09:09
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:09
kalorintinyx: use VLC, it's mo-bettah09:09
N0Lif3sonoftheclayr: I wasn't able to get anything useful out of that09:09
binks!nvidia | the_hammer09:10
ubotuthe_hammer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:10
flaccidwolferine: does this help? http://pastebin.ca/432423 that is the new smb.conf using [homes] 09:10
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flaccidkalorin: sif09:10
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: the only thing i got out of it was my monitor isn't as bright as it should be but i already knew that09:11
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cyberiushi! How can I change the bootlogo of Kubuntu?09:11
cyberiusI downloaded one from kdelook but I don't know what to do next09:11
posingaspopularcyberius: thats the splash page09:12
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.09:12
Jucato!usplash | cyberius09:12
ubotucyberius: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork09:12
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Jucatoposingaspopular: wrong kind of splash :P09:12
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posingaspopularJucato: what is the difference, if you dont mind my asking09:12
wolferineflaccid, no, that doesnt help09:13
N0Lif3I think the KDE splash is fine. The main thing I always edit is that stupid sleeping dragon pic in the Log-Out window ("shutdownkonq.png")09:13
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14953909:13
flaccidwolferine: pastebin your smb log09:13
Jucatousplash is teh bootsplash, the splash screen that appears during booting (after the grub splash, which is the screen you see in the grub menu)09:13
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Jucatoposingaspopular: ^^^^09:13
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flaccidwolferine: are you restarting samba after you make a change to smb.conf ?09:14
posingaspopularJucato: thanks09:14
wolferineof course09:14
flaccidpaste bin the log then and i'lll look at the error for you09:14
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Jucatoposingaspopular: the !splash factoid refers to the regular splash screen that appears after you login09:15
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posingaspopularJucato: ahhhi see09:16
Jucatono problem. now go to sleep :)09:16
posingaspopularJucato: ha i wish! i have plot issues on a story that are keeping me awake. might as well try to be productive in here09:16
flaccidwolferine: to test it by cli. go on the server/remote machine where the share is hosted. goto terminal. run smbclient -U profx //localhost/profx09:17
flaccidwolferine: if you cannot logon you may need to set password using smbpasswd on the server09:18
Jucatoposingaspopular: oh hehe! good luck :P09:18
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posingaspopularJucato: thanks09:18
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sonoftheclayrwhy do i get permission denied when i execut sudo echo 4 > /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD/brightness?09:20
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N0Lif3heehee, I like how in KDE 3.5 the system settings looks very similiar to Mac OS X's system preference window.09:20
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flaccidwolferine: if you are able to login you will get Domain=[HOSTNAME]  OS=[Unix]  Server=[Samba 3.0.24]  and then smb: \> prompt09:20
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wolferinei could login on both09:21
wolferinebut still cannot copy09:21
cyberiusI tried the gnome-splashscreen-manager but it closes itsself after i try to open the gz which contains the bootscreen09:21
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wolferine(not copy meaning in Naut.)09:22
flaccidlet me get a command. and pls pastebin the smb log from the server09:22
wolferinewhich log09:22
wolferinedoesnt look like any will help09:22
flaccidthe smb log09:22
flaccidits /var/log/samba/log.%m09:23
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flaccidas per your configuration09:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:23
flaccidand probably smb.log as well if its there09:23
wolferinei can connect to each (back and forth) via cli09:24
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flaccidwolferine: when you are logged on via smbclient try using the command mkdir testdir within the desired folder09:25
flaccidso logon to /profx09:26
wolferineyes, I could make a dir09:26
flaccidok cool09:26
flaccidso it works09:26
wolferinenot 100%09:27
wolferinebut yes09:27
flaccidbut it won't for other users..09:27
flacciddrwxr-xr-x 3 profx profx 4096 2007-04-01 13:03 FTP09:27
wolferinei just wanted it for this one09:27
flaccidthe [homes]  will work for all users with a smbpasswd and shell generally09:27
flaccidif you want other users to write there you need to change the perms on FTP dir09:28
wolferinei just want the one to write09:28
wolferinethats it09:28
flaccidthe one to write?09:28
wolferinebut it still doesnt work in Nat.09:28
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flaccidthis is kubuntu09:29
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flaccidbut maybe your problem is nautilus09:29
flaccidnot loggin on as correct user or something09:29
flaccidsmb log will help09:29
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flaccidand you only need [homes]  or [profx]  not both. they may conflict09:29
flaccidwolferine: try using konqueror or krusader09:31
flaccidkrusader is like my big brother09:31
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pollyoWhy is it so difficult to get a firewall to allow the webserve to work?09:33
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flaccidi dunno. firewalls are not a simple thing09:34
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pollyoflaccid: You would think that just opening the port would do it.09:34
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flaccidnot if you have other rules09:34
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flaccidover an hour to get 1166 packages pretty good dang09:35
jon_could someone tell me how to view free space on my hard drive?09:35
flaccidjon_: gui or cli?09:35
flacciddf -h09:36
N0Lif3I'm trying to follow some forum advice to adjust the brightness on my laptop and "/proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD/brightness" doesn't exist. I did some looking and as far as "/proc/acpi/video" is empty. (according to konsole)09:36
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wolferinewhat is the exact line that allows me to write to the samba share?09:37
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wolferinejust the writable = yes?09:37
N0Lif3Fn+F6 is the combo to lower my brightness (shows the downarrow+Sun symbol in blue), but it does nothing09:37
flaccidwolferine: there are many directives plug authorisation and also authentication and security level09:38
pollyoCan someone go to pollyo.gotdns.com09:38
pollyoTell me if anything comes up?09:38
flaccidwolferine: i always use writable = yes to ensure users can write to it if fs perms are ok09:38
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flaccidif your mkdir was successful in smbclient it proves that user has the required access09:39
wolferinethat user does09:39
flaccidother users won't09:39
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flaccidas its your homedir09:39
flaccidand you didn't give write access to other users in ~/FTP either09:40
wolferineyeah, and I can take the -U flag and connect fine09:40
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flaccidits a good practice to use a [public]  share09:40
sonoftheclayri got my console to stop flickering!09:41
wolferinei want one thing to work09:41
wolferinethats it09:41
flaccidwolferine: this is not as simple as frying an egg09:41
nonudaguys i'm so desperate here, i was trying to enable apt-get to download and isntall from another kubuntu box rather then downloading from the net..09:41
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nonudai have found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal and try to adapt it with smb:09:42
nonudabut it seems didn't work ;(09:42
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flaccidnonuda: adapt?09:43
nonudaflaccid: yup09:43
flaccidhow exactly09:43
flaccidwhat are you using the smb for09:43
wolferinecannot do it with Konqueror either09:43
flaccidwolferine: with which user?09:44
wolferineits always been the same single user09:44
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flaccidlog please09:44
wolferinehonestly, I dont know which log09:45
flaccidis there anything in /var/log/samba09:45
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flaccid[2007-04-10 17:23]  <flaccid> its /var/log/samba/log.%m09:45
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nonudaflaccid: currently i have 2 kubuntu box running with networking, 1 box have all packages upgrade and have alot of application which i have download using adept, and now i want to install a new app or upgrade the packages from the first box09:46
wolferinewell, there are quite a few now09:46
dayahow can i share files through kde09:46
wolferinebut nothing meaningful09:46
dayain guid09:46
nonudaflaccid: i used smb to browse /var/cache/apt/archives09:46
flaccidnonuda: apt doesn't support samba. copy the packages to the machine and install using dpkg -i packname.deb09:46
wolferinewell thanks anyways flaccid09:47
flaccidwolferine: how do you know if there is anything meanful?09:47
wolferineill get it before the end of the week :/ (I hope)09:47
flaccidwolferine: we can fix it now if you just pastebin logs..09:47
flaccidif this is not good help im not sure what is09:47
wolferinegive me 15 mins09:47
icecruncher9 days till feisty09:49
sonoftheclayr9! cool, i can't wait (even though i'm already using it :))09:49
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nonudaflaccid: do u meant to copy all the *.deb from upgraded machine into the fresh machine? to where folder? var/cache/apt/archives too?09:49
flaccidnonuda: yeah but i'd copy them to /tmp on the dest. machine and install them from there then delete em09:50
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nonudaflaccid: i see, how if share the archives folder using nfs? does apt support nfs?09:51
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flaccidi dunno, i don't think so09:52
flaccidcopy them across using ftp or smb or fish or sftp or whatever :)09:52
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nonudaflaccid: guess i use smb, but can we mount the shared folder without smbfs or smb4k?09:53
wolferineflaccid, http://pastebin.ca/43245709:53
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flaccidyou don't need to mount it you can use smb://hostname in konqueror09:54
flaccidbut you can mount using smbmount if you like09:54
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flaccidwolferine: that is indeed weird09:55
flaccidneed to up loglevel probably09:55
flaccidwhat is the error returned when trying to write?09:56
wolferineand its been frustrating me for over a week now09:56
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wolferinein Kon.: Access denied. Could not write to smb://09:56
flaccidin which dir?09:56
nonudaflaccid: i believe if i can mounted then i can get what i wanted, can u tell me the smbmount command to mount //nonuda-desktop/archives ?09:57
wolferinesame in Naut.09:57
flaccidntfs > nonuda09:57
wolferineinto ~ on the server09:57
flaccidso you see your homedir ok but you can't write?09:57
jon_i cant seem to get flash working09:57
nonudaflaccid: ntfs? no it linux partition..ext309:58
flaccidnonuda: its on that page as well :)09:58
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nonudaoh ok then..thanks09:59
wolferinei can do it all, just not copy into it09:59
icecruncherwolferine: have you tried commandline, sudo?09:59
flaccidwolferine: can you edit and save?09:59
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flaccidicecruncher: this is on a remote smb share09:59
flaccidyou can pastebin your smb.conf again and i'll add some stuff10:00
wolferineno, I cannot write to it10:00
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flaccidwolferine:   profserver ( connect to service profx initially as user profx (uid=0, gid=1000) (pid 17638)10:01
flacciduid=0 hmm^^10:02
flaccidthats where the problem is10:03
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flaccidpastebin the conf and we'll explicitly define the smbuser map10:04
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wolferinepastebin hasnt changed10:05
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flaccidwolferine: ^10:05
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flacciddid you take out the profx share?10:06
sonoftheclayranybody know of a good non-gui audio player?10:06
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: no, someone else, please do tell10:07
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wolferinek, ill repaste it10:08
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dystopianraysonoftheclayr: mpd10:10
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wolferineflaccid, http://pastebin.ca/43247510:10
sonoftheclayrdystopianray: mpd? good?10:11
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flaccidwolferine: thanks10:11
flaccidwolferine: pastebin /etc/samba/smbusers10:11
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dystopianraysonoftheclayr: supposed to be10:12
wolferineon that box10:12
sonoftheclayrdystopianray: thanks10:12
flaccidwolferine: on the server yep10:13
wolferineits just one line10:14
flaccidwhat is it10:14
wolferinewait, its just blank10:14
flaccidthat should be10:14
flaccidprofx = profx10:14
wolferineit should be blank (just for clarification)?10:15
flaccidit should be10:15
flaccidprofx = profx10:15
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flaccidthen use the new smb.conf: http://pastebin.ca/43247810:16
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flaccidthen under user profx on termina on server, change passwd by using smbpasswd10:16
flaccidthen restart samba10:16
flaccidthen test10:16
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AbortDfat32 good read and writable in linux?10:17
flaccidAbortD: sure is10:17
wolferinesmbpasswd as sudo?10:18
AbortDhow do i mount hda5 now?10:18
flaccidwolferine: no under user profx10:19
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flaccidie. change your smbpasswd10:19
flaccidit can be the same10:19
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flaccidbut we want to make sure its sets10:19
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icecruncher!update > icecruncher10:20
wolferinesmbclient //profserver/profx10:20
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ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter10:21
jon_how do i turn on javascript?10:21
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jon_i installed flash but it doesnt work10:21
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ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions10:21
wolferineI can do either with a -U or not10:21
flaccidwolferine: does the write work?10:21
wolferinepermissions denied10:22
flaccidis it still showing uid=0 in log?10:22
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wolferinethe log.profserver?10:22
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flaccidand the client10:22
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AbortDcan someone help me with mounting hda5?10:24
KrAmMeRdoes anyone know how to show what device your sound card is mounted to?10:24
icecruncherhow come this is only for ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades? where's Kubuntu???10:24
KrAmMeRlike /dev/?10:24
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ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter10:24
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flaccid!upgrade > icecruncher10:24
AbortDi tried that10:24
AbortDits not giving me the mount option10:24
icecruncher!es | doblezero_10:25
ubotudoblezero_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:25
icecruncherflaccid: it works?10:25
flaccid!ntfs > AbortD10:25
flaccidwhat works10:25
AbortDi dont want ntfs10:25
AbortDthat is the point10:25
icecruncherflaccid: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade10:25
flaccidAbortD: it details other filesystems too..10:25
AbortDi want to do a full format10:26
flaccidicecruncher: yeah im doing it atm10:26
AbortDon that file system and cant10:26
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KrAmMeR!sound card10:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sound card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:26
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:26
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flaccidAbortD: you cant do it on a mounted filesystem ie. /10:26
icecruncherthanks flaccid10:27
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AbortDits not letting me use the command "mount hda5"10:28
wolferine[2007/04/10 01:28:08, 1]  smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(693)10:28
wolferine  profx ( connect to service profx initially as user profx (uid=1000, gid=1000) (pid 12103)10:28
wolferineflaccid, that was my last attempt (i think)10:28
sonoftheclayrAbortD: try mount /dev/hda510:28
flaccidwolferine: that shows now a correct logon10:29
AbortDi will do it again10:29
wolferinewell, the logs, were from the client, not the server before10:29
wolferineim getting tired10:29
AbortDsays it cant find it10:29
flaccideither way10:29
wolferinewell, the server logs are alot more huge10:29
jack_hi, there is in the terminal a license agreement for skype, how can i hit ok?enter doesnt do the job10:29
flaccidi don't mind reading them10:29
flaccidwolferine: maybe try adding read only = no to [homes]  but this should be suffice10:30
wolferinei have yet to surf to [homes] 10:30
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flaccid[homes]  is actually /%u10:30
AbortDdidnt work sonoftheclayr10:30
flaccidso /profx is [homes] 10:30
icecruncherflaccid: could you check this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14831/10:31
flaccidso make sure you removed [profx]  and used only the smb.conf i pasted10:31
wolferinehomes was /profx/FTP10:31
wolferineand there is nothing coming up for homes, just my ~10:31
flaccidicecruncher: i don't think it can do the commands within sudo -i ?10:32
flaccidwolferine: thats how it works. its a special' share10:32
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wolferineso comment out the user10:32
icecruncherflaccid: so rather sudo infront of everything?10:32
flaccidwolferine: comment out the user?10:32
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flaccidicecruncher: i'll test10:33
wolferinecommenting out [profx] 10:33
wolferineand just using [homes] 10:33
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icecruncherflaccid: man sudo check the -i it says that it's a login as a root use, without the 15 end, dunno10:33
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wolferinewell now10:33
wolferinethat works10:33
flaccidwolferine: use this exact configuration: http://pastebin.ca/43249310:33
flaccidyes i said to take that out in the first place :)10:34
wolferinewell, thank you10:34
flaccidthats ok10:34
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wolferineim glad I did (nt) listen to you :/10:34
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KrAmMeRhmmm, i still dont know where to find where my sound card is on /dev/10:34
KrAmMeRfor vmware server10:35
flaccidwolferine: most people are(nt) :)10:35
KrAmMeRit tried to use /dev/dsp automatically10:35
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wolferineok, so what did I do wrong?10:35
wolferinein my [profx] 10:35
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wolferineor can I redefine [homes]  ?10:36
flaccidread list = movies, profx is overwriting the write list set in the directive before10:36
flaccidi think10:36
flaccidand your smbuser map was wrong10:36
flaccidusing [homes]  is the correct way10:36
wolferinei was wonder if I should have just taken the list = out10:36
icecruncherflaccid: just edited10:37
flaccidwolferine: you usually use the valid users = profx10:37
N0Lif3I just got a brand new install of Kubuntu (6.10) running on my lappy. I go to Konsole and try "sudo apt-get update." and when asked for password I assumed "root" for root authentication and it said it failed. :S10:37
wolferinewell, ill let you waste your time on others now10:37
flaccidwolferine: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch06_01.html10:37
N0Lif3what is the default root pass on kubuntu?10:37
flaccidwolferine: i always have. some listen, some don't.10:37
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:37
N0Lif3ubotu: thanks10:38
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)10:38
flaccidyou deserver it ubotu10:38
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KrAmMeRi guess no one knows how to do this?10:39
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flaccidoops wrong button i guess10:41
flaccidi must of quit10:42
flaccidyou fix your problem yet10:42
flaccidwhat you trying to do10:43
AbortDto mount hda210:43
flaccidperm or temporary10:43
flaccidyou tried putting it in fstab, then sudo mount -a10:43
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AbortDlet me try10:43
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flaccidthats the usual process10:44
flaccidor mount /mnt/point10:44
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flaccidafter its in fstab10:44
aftertafboing :)10:44
aftertafis there ANY way Kopete can be used to voice chat?10:44
AbortDwhat do i put it in as?10:44
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aftertafi can do webcam....10:44
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ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions10:44
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DavidHi guys, i have a mac partition on external hard disk, how can i get acces for it?10:45
jack_Sending failed:10:45
jack_Could not connect to host mail.gmx.net.10:45
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flaccidwhat sort of fs is it AbortD10:45
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jack_i get this in kmail suddenly, after it originally wroked fine for weeks, firewall isnt the problem10:45
emanuele11do you know a program that sorts files, by their extension into different dirs?10:45
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter10:45
aftertafAudio support in Kopete is at an experimental stage. If you have an Audio tab, you are probably using a preview build of Kopete.10:46
flaccidAbortD: its in the pages ubotu quoted10:46
flaccidbut i'll spoon you an example10:46
flaccidexample line in fstab: /dev/hda5      /media/mymusic       vfat    user,auto,rw                 0       110:47
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iml-lucysorry bad room10:49
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Davidsomebody here?10:49
nonudaflaccid: i have succed mounted the shared archives of deb folder, but i when i sudo update-mydebs (according to the guide) it said "update-mydebs: line 3 : dpkg-scanpackages : command not found10:49
aftertafDavid: what is the file fs? MacFS?10:49
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ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter10:50
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aftertafDavid: ^^^10:50
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sort - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sorting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:51
Davidaftertaf: I don't know men, my brother gives to me a external hard disk, but i don't know what type of file system is, i only know is a mac partition, maybe hfs.10:51
binks!bash | emanuele1110:51
ubotuemanuele11: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands10:51
AbortDi dunno what its under in /media10:51
flaccidnonuda: i'm not sure what you are trying to do. i said to use dpkg -i package.deb for each. but from your error you may need dpkg-scanpackages10:51
flaccidi mean10:52
flaccidsudo apt-get install dpkg-dev10:52
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Davidaftertaf: i'm using a generic kernel version... when I used my kernel compiled version (i don't have anythong more) works...10:52
jack_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:52
nonudaflaccid: yes i know, but it will take me alot of time to do it one by one, do you mean i don't have dpkg-scanpackages?10:52
jack_what does it mean?10:52
flaccidnonuda: correct. i think10:53
nonudaflaccid: ok i'll check it now10:53
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ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer10:55
emanuele11binks: bash?10:55
nonudaflaccid: there's no dpkg-scanpackages in adept manager10:55
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flaccidi meant dpkg-dev10:55
AbortDshould i change vfat to fat32?10:56
N0Lif3Why is the Desktop folder always capitalized in many distro's (including Kubuntu)?10:56
nonudadpkg-dev is installed, hmm wierd10:56
flaccidN0Lif3: i think for easy completion in prompts10:57
binksemanuele11:  sorry thought you were looking up bashcommands10:58
aftertafDavid: what is the dev name when you plug in the drive?10:58
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hyper_chN0Lif3: because it looks prettier10:59
emanuele11binks: but it's a nice idea: making a script!10:59
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N0Lif3flaccid: hyper_ch but it is annoying (well, not so much. Since i'm used to it)10:59
N0Lif3but yeah, every other directory on my machine is lower-case11:00
AbortDgot it now i gotta figure out how to make it accessable from the desktop11:00
Cantthinkofnameso, after I upgraded to edgy, my mouse stopped working11:00
hyper_chN0Lif3: symlink desktop to Desktop :)11:00
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flaccidsay you go to konqueror, you can type in ~/D and yeah11:00
flaccidwhere is there could be lots of ~/d*11:00
oshX on my feisty stopped working this (or perhaps last) update. Computer "locks" when X starts. Any idea on how to fix? I'm thinking disabeling some modules might help?11:00
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binksemanuele11: what are you trying to achive must have missed the start11:01
flaccidAbortD: right click desktop and goto configure desktop > behaviour > device icons11:01
ubotuDownload Feisty Fawn Beta at http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04, read release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Beta and upgrade instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades; consider doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing; Just because it's almost ready doesn't mean it is - final releases happen when they do for a reason, be warned and prepared for unbootable systems.11:01
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flaccidAbortD: show mounted hard disk ticked11:02
AbortDim in gnome :P11:02
flaccidAbortD: otherwise you can create a symlink11:02
flaccidright try #ubuntu then11:02
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AbortDcant haha11:02
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nonudaflaccid: damn...yes it was not installed !! :( i was checked it on another box..lol11:04
flaccidnonuda: cool11:04
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nonudaflaccid: now its installed and didn't complaining not found command, but still one problem left, it seems that when it try to create the packages file it got denied, "permission denied"11:07
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flaccidi dunno is it run under sudo/root?11:07
N0Lif3|lappyHostname: n30lif3 - OS: Linux 2.6.17-10-generic/i686 - CPU: Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU         1333MHz (1333.522 MHz) - Processes: 86 - Uptime: 34m - Load Average: 0.11 - Memory Usage: 109.12MB/218.23MB (50.00%) - Disk Usage: 1.79GB/27.34GB (6.53%)11:07
N0Lif3hehe, what do you guys think of my new lappy?11:08
flaccidnot bad11:08
nonudayes i run it with command like this, sudo bash update-mydebs11:08
N0Lif3flaccid: I traded my modded xbox for it. I'd say it was well worth it11:08
flaccidnonuda: i havnt done what you are trying to do but maybe the perms are wrong on the debs you added11:08
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nonudaflaccid: yeah i guess so, i still wonder where the update-mydebs put the packages.bz file after dpkg-scanpackages read the deb file? hmm..got to read it again..carefully now11:11
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flaccidsorry nonuda i havnt it before, but good luck with it. check that the perms are the same as the other debs including ownership11:11
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nonudaflaccid: yeah ok..thanks..i will tell u if i have succeed with it ;) but i guess not today hehehe11:13
flaccidsee if dpkg supports dpkg -i /myfolder/*deb11:14
flaccidi can't remember if it does or not11:14
CantthinkofnameHi.  So, I just upgraded to 6.10, and now my MS usb mouse doesn't work.  Can anyone help me?11:15
nonudaah ok..let me test it11:15
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N0Lif3Hey, what is the best way to get flash support working in Konqueror? (such as for watching YouTube videos)11:18
nonudaflaccid: hmm.. dpkg -i /mufolder/*.deb will install all the packeges in that folder..11:19
nonudaflaccid: ok..gtg now..thanks11:19
flaccidnonuda: thats why you should of copied it to a dif folder :)11:20
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anti_popis it possible to reset the K-Menu ?11:22
anti_popnew programms dont add to it ? for example if i install package "kdegames" there are no new games in "games" :)11:23
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awenknetworkmanager doesn't show any wireless network (doesn't even show that any wireless network cards is avaible)... anybody experiencing the same?11:26
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:26
flaccidi guess need to look at it in detail11:26
flaccidhas your wireless worked before11:26
aweni can connect using wlanmanager11:26
awenand it worked a few days ago11:27
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flaccidi've had that happen before11:27
flacciddon't know why11:27
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awenusually a reboot solves it, but not this time11:28
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flaccidknetworkmanager relies on networkmanager daemon?11:29
flaccidi cant remember11:29
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awencan't find anything of that name11:30
flaccidNetworkManager i think it is11:31
flaccidsorry i can't remember and am not on wireless atm11:31
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awenokay... i'll see if it solves itself, if not it should qualify for a bug report11:32
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flaccidawen: you tried kwireless11:36
flaccidi think that exists11:36
flaccid!info kwireless11:36
ubotuPackage kwireless does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas11:36
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AbortDthere is a good wireless client in kde11:37
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flaccidhmm thats only an indicator icon11:37
AbortDif i could remember the string to get it running11:37
dystopianrayknetworkmanager is a good wireless client for kde11:38
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PhinnFortok, I think I have a serious problem11:38
flaccidawen: googling knetworkmanager problems on ubuntu there are lots11:38
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dystopianrayPhinnFort: looks like you got filesystem curruption11:39
PhinnFortdystopianray: how11:39
PhinnFortit had been running for some hours11:40
flaccidis it ok to run fsck on this xfs ?11:40
flaccidi mean can you11:40
PhinnFortflaccid: yeah11:40
PhinnFortshould I11:40
flaccidi don't know11:40
PhinnFortI'll try11:40
dystopianrayPhinnFort: yes, you should fsck it11:40
flaccidi havnt used xfs before11:40
PhinnFortmost of it is backed up11:40
flaccidok cool11:41
dystopianrayPhinnFort: it tells you what to do at the bottom of your paste11:41
PhinnFortyeah "rectify"11:41
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PhinnFortIf you wish to check the consistency of an XFS filesystem or11:41
PhinnFortrepair a damaged filesystem, see xfs_check(8) and xfs_repair(8).11:41
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flaccidsounds good11:42
PhinnFortok... "umount: /home/w00t: device is busy"11:42
PhinnFortlsof: WARNING: can't stat() xfs file system /home/w00t11:42
flacciddo an unmount -l11:42
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PhinnFortwhat does/did it do?11:42
flaccidthen man those xfs bins and find correct switches to use11:43
flaccid-l is lazy unmount11:43
PhinnFortok... fatal error -- couldn't initialize XFS library11:43
PhinnFortonly libs I can find is xfslibs-dev11:43
flaccid!find xfs11:44
ubotuFound: xfsdump, xfslibs-dev, xfsprogs, xfs, xfsinfo (and 1 others)11:44
PhinnFort!info libdm011:44
ubotulibdm0: Data Management API runtime environment. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.4-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 88 kB11:44
PhinnFortldd is not fun: "        not a dynamic executable"11:45
N0Lif3I'm trying to play vid's in Kaffeine and all I'm getting is a black screen. What should I do?11:45
PhinnFortN0Lif3: try another video driver11:46
N0Lif3PhinnFort: how?11:46
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PhinnFortN0Lif3: Settings11:46
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sonoftheclayroops! wrong console :)11:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bicyclerepair - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:46
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bicycleshed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:47
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flaccid!info bicyclerepair11:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bikeshed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:47
ubotubicyclerepair: A refactoring tool for python. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9-4.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 752 kB11:47
flaccidhehe sorry11:47
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flaccidmy edgy upgrade is up nearly done11:47
PhinnFortcan someone here try to install the xfsprogs and just run xfs_check?11:47
PhinnFort"fatal error -- couldn't initialize XFS library"11:47
icecruncherflaccid: not fair11:47
flaccidbut who knows11:48
flaccidcould stil be a while11:48
flaccidcould run into another problem11:48
PhinnFortflaccid: can you just install xfsprogs and try?11:48
flaccidim upgrading sorry11:48
PhinnFortah, ok11:48
PhinnFortflaccid: sure you don't have it already?11:48
icecruncherflaccid: I'm running the script, except that sudo -i is gone and and there was an error in the code, but otehr thn tha, 3 more hours of download11:48
flaccid!info xfsprogs11:49
ubotuxfsprogs: Utilities for managing the XFS filesystem. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.10-1 (edgy), package size 1156 kB, installed size 2900 kB11:49
flaccidyeah i don't11:49
flaccidcp: cannot stat `/etc/udev/rules.d/65-persistent-storage.rules': No such file or directory11:50
flaccidi must have no rules from dapper11:50
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N0Lif3Anybody know if there are any plans for a "Powered By Kubuntu" sticker. I've seen Ubuntu ones offered.11:51
PhinnFortN0Lif3: see topic11:51
PhinnFortprint yourself;)11:51
flaccidheh its stopping networkmanager daemon i reckon thats going to dis the network coz im ssh in11:51
anees_hi flaccid11:51
N0Lif3PhinnFort: my bad..11:52
anees_i m installing kooldock...but it require autoconf 2.5311:52
anees_how should i install it11:52
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flaccid!find autoconf11:52
ubotuFound: autoconf, autoconf-doc, autoconf2.13, autoconf-archive11:52
flaccid!info autoconf11:52
ubotuautoconf: automatic configure script builder. In component main, is optional. Version 2.60-1 (edgy), package size 429 kB, installed size 1640 kB11:52
flaccidinstall that one i guess11:52
flacciddamn i'm going to have to go walk up the road and goto console display 011:53
icecruncher!language > flaccid11:53
PhinnFort!attitude | icecruncher11:53
ubotuicecruncher: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:53
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ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines11:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flaccid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:54
icecruncher!patience | PhinnFort11:54
ubotuPhinnFort: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:54
PhinnFort!attack icecruncher11:54
sonoftheclayrstop abusing the bot please!11:54
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PhinnFortsonoftheclayr: we will11:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autologin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:55
anees_flaccid: i m using ubuntu...I find and update autoconf...but it again gives me message that kooldock require autoconf 2.5311:55
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flaccidmaybe it requires that specific version11:55
PhinnFortN0Lif3: go to System Settings - Login MAnager -> Convenience11:55
N0Lif3PhinnFort: :D11:55
anees_hmmm...ok...how to check my current autoconf version?11:56
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flacciddpkg -l | grep autoconf11:56
PhinnForticecruncher: :D11:56
N0Lif3PhinnFort: I see no "Login Manager" in System Settings11:57
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flaccidnote to self. don't do a kubuntu upgrade remotely if you have NetworkManager running11:57
PhinnFortN0Lif3: Advanced tab11:57
PhinnFortflaccid: :P11:57
flaccidhow ghey is that i tell ya11:58
PhinnFortbut I still need the xfs libs11:58
flaccidi have to walk around the block now11:58
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anees_thanx man11:58
PhinnFortflaccid: do you think I will get the libs if I walk around the block?11:58
flaccidi hope so11:59
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jordilinusing feisty beta with kde, the text under the folders in konqueror sometimes is white, sometimes black, why?12:06
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flaccidi'm going to do this tomorrow12:12
flaccidgoodnight and good luck12:12
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lestusnice one12:14
dayahow can i access the nfs share in kubuntu12:15
dayawithou the mount command12:15
dystopianraydaya: you can't12:16
dayadystopianray, but some one say that it can eb12:16
dystopianraydaya: who said this?12:16
dayadystopianray, like smb://<ip> can we use nfs://<ip>12:16
dayain kde12:17
dystopianraydaya: i'm fairly certain nfs:// is horribly broken and has never worked12:17
dayadystopianray, ok12:18
dayadystopianray, then we can't do it, will it be capable in future release of konqueror?12:20
dystopianraydaya: probably not, it's been broken for years12:20
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dayadystopianray, but nfs is fine in command line isn't it?12:20
dystopianraydaya: yes it works great, it has nothing to do with kde12:20
anees_hi...i installed xine player for mp3 songs...but it do now play mp3 songs12:21
dystopianraydaya: if you are connecting to the same nfs share every time, put it in /etc/fstab to allow users to mount it12:21
anees_anybody tell me about xine player12:21
dystopianrayanees_: you need libxine-extracodecs12:21
dayadystopianray, yes , but I am wrintig a simple manual for usesrs without any commands line so i am searcing for them12:22
dystopianraydaya: kde might be able to mount an nfs share via media:// if it's in fstab12:22
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dystopianraydaya: for casual file sharing you should probably stick to smb12:23
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dystopianraydaya: or something like kpf12:24
dayadystopianray, ok , I lastly conclude smb will be the best choice12:24
dayadystopianray, but kpf is only on web isn't it?12:24
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dystopianraydaya: no it can share on lans12:25
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dystopianraydaya: it'd only share over the web if you setup your network to allow that12:25
dystopianraydaya: it's simple to use and is zeroconf enabled12:25
dayadystopianray, ye, sorry , i din't know about that12:25
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sonoftheclayrdystopianray: thanks for telling me about mdp, it's great!12:26
dystopianraysonoftheclayr: no problem12:27
dayadystopianray, fine12:27
dystopianraydaya: fine?12:27
dayadystopianray, I mean kpf , :D12:28
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dystopianraywhat is funny?12:36
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lestussoz but this makes for nice bed-time reading :P12:37
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xConfigHey guys, I've got a really annoying problem with my screen12:41
xConfig... the scrolling, it doesn't scroll smoothly, it's being cut in frames12:42
xConfigand that .. is a real pain for the eyes12:42
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xConfigI've installed the gfx drivers for my card.. and yet it doesn't fix12:42
xConfiganybody an idea..?12:42
dystopianrayxConfig: what card do you have?12:43
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anees_dystopianray: how can i install libxine-extracodecs12:45
anees_i tried a lot but unable to find it12:45
dystopianrayanees_: do you have universe and multiverse repositries enabled?12:46
N0Lif3Are there any k-based iTunes alternatives? (music library, podcasting, iPod support. 2nd gen iPod nano support to be specific)12:46
anees_dystopianray: in which file12:46
bobbicathello and i have problem with new install of edgy from cd12:46
dystopianrayN0Lif3: you've not heard of amarok?12:46
N0Lif3dystopianray: that has iPod support?12:47
dystopianrayN0Lif3: yes12:47
N0Lif3dystopianray: and podcasting?12:47
dystopianrayN0Lif3: yes12:47
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dystopianrayN0Lif3: if you mean, subscribing and listening to podcasts12:47
N0Lif3dystopianray: yeah yeah12:47
xConfigdystopianray: do you think the problem is related with the xorg.conf ?12:47
xConfigcoz I simply have no idea what else it can be12:48
dystopianrayxConfig: probably12:48
dystopianrayxConfig: I don't really have any idea with sis hardware12:48
dystopianrayanees_: /etc/apt/sources.list12:48
dystopianrayanees_: open that file in a text editor using sudo12:48
dystopianrayN0Lif3: http://amarok.kde.org/features12:49
bobbicati cannot get aptitude to connect successfully - internet connection is working ok12:50
N0Lif3cool. I'll look into that after my lappy finishes its Battery Calibration (BIOS)12:50
bobbicatanyone help me?12:50
anees_dystopianray: ok ...i did it12:50
dystopianrayanees_: can you find the line that looks like this: #deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe12:51
anees_all the universe multiverse options are enabled12:51
dystopianrayanees_: they are uncommented?12:51
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dystopianrayanees_: and you're sure that multiverse is in there?12:52
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xConf.msg ns n register d3va5ala12:52
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anees_dystopianray: i want to show u my sources.list file12:53
anees_where should I paste it12:53
dystopianray!pastebin | anees_12:53
ubotuanees_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:53
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anees_dystopianray: plz check it...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14840/12:55
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ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php12:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about downloadmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
Jucato!info kget12:56
ubotukget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1176 kB12:56
dystopianrayanees_: ok that looks fine, close the file and in a terminal run this: sudo apt-get update12:56
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matutanohi there anyone around? I'm needing help12:57
matutanohi there, I have a problem in my xgl account, I can't use alt key as writting modifier :X12:58
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aneesdystopianray: i update the ubuntu01:04
aneesusint sudo apt-get update...but no new update available01:05
dystopianrayanees: ok01:05
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gemidjycan anyone confirm me this before reporting it as bug, when using Beryl (either with Emerald or Aquamarine) and when u start Konversation, the Server List dialog appears without focus and ability to close it01:06
matutanohi there, I have a problem in my xgl account, I can't use alt key as writting modifier :X01:06
matutanocan anyone help me? instead of ignoring :\01:06
aneesdystopianray: so how to install libxine-extracodecs01:06
aneesplz guide me01:06
gemidjymatutano: are u sure u ask on the right #channel ?01:07
dystopianrayanees: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs01:07
icecruncherhow can you pause an update?01:08
icecruncherin the konsole01:08
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dystopianrayicecruncher: pause an apt-get update ?01:08
matutanoWell I think is a kubuntu problem gemidjy  :\01:08
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gemidjymatutano: so when you login with your xgl account in KDE, you can't use Alt as modifier key?01:09
matutanofor writing only.. :\01:09
matutanocan use alt + f4 for exemple01:09
sonoftheclayricecruncher: right clik in konsole > send signal > suspend task (stop)01:10
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sonoftheclayri think01:10
icecruncherahh, yeah01:10
matutanoor cntrl + z to suspend01:10
icecruncherthanks, then cont01:10
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sonoftheclayrmelinda82: hi01:10
dystopianraydoesn't ctrl+z just background a task?01:10
melinda82is there any way, to record audiodvd's??01:10
dystopianraymelinda82: you can make them, yes01:10
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: or not01:11
melinda82dystopianray, I CAN'T find the way with k3b..01:11
matutanodystopianray,  my console says stopped :X01:11
sonoftheclayricecruncher: the only way to find out is to try01:11
dystopianraymelinda82: you make them with another program and use k3b to burn the dvd image01:11
matutano[1] +  Stopped                 sudo apt-get update01:11
melinda82dystopianray, wich is the program?01:11
dystopianraymelinda82: i don't quite remember, i'll have to look in google01:11
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melinda82i've searched a lil bit, but haven't find anything under linux01:12
gemidjyhah this aquamarine&beryl thing pwnz01:13
_steffen_is there a known bug in feisty with the wlan??  on 6.10 everything worked fine, but with feisty i get no connection ( on notebook and pc ... )01:13
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dystopianray_steffen_: what wireless chipset?01:14
dystopianraymelinda82: http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml01:14
melinda82dystopianray, i'm gonna give a try01:14
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_steffen_dystopianray, i tak ea lokk, one moment plz01:15
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dystopianraymelinda82: do you have content suitable for an audio-dvd? 24-bit/96Khz ?01:16
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_steffen_dystopianray,  RaLink : RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI01:17
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dystopianray_steffen_: ah, i've heard of a few people have trouble with those cards, not sure what a solution is01:18
dystopianray_steffen_: but anyway, ask in #ubuntu+1 for feisty support01:18
_steffen_dystopianray: ok thx01:18
icecruncherhmm, it aint ctrl + c01:18
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melinda82dystopianray, i have them on mp3,01:19
sonoftheclayricecruncher: no it isn't but i think apt will resume a download or are you past that stage?01:19
icecruncheri'm thankfully still in that stage01:20
icecruncherotherwise,... ugh01:20
aneesdystopianray: I tried it... but I got a message Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate01:20
peakeris NDEBUG defined when compiling KDE for Kubuntu?01:21
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: you see, the problem ws that my net connection was really slow, so i wanted to pause the update, reset the connection and then resume the update01:21
dystopianraymelinda82: hrrm, are you trying to make a dvd full of mp3s, or you want to make a proper audio-dvd that requries a special audio-dvd player?01:22
melinda82audio-dvd for being played in the ps201:22
sonoftheclayricecruncher: yeah, i'm certain apt resumes downloads, i've done it myself a couple of times01:22
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dystopianraymelinda82: the ps2 plays audio-dvd?01:22
melinda82dystopianray, it's ... for a dance game lol01:23
dystopianraymelinda82: exactly what format does this game expect?01:23
dystopianraymelinda82: the ps2 can't play dvd-audio01:23
dystopianraymelinda82: audio cds?01:23
melinda82i suppose01:23
dystopianraymelinda82: you'll have to use cds, not dvds01:24
melinda82the game does not explain very much01:24
icecrunchersonoftheclayr; yup, after stopping tasks, my comp just shut down, so01:24
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peakerhow would a Kubuntu developer debug KDE, if it comes with NDEBUG enabled, and all the debug prints/etc are disabled?01:24
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supernixHi all01:24
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supernixAnyone know of a good resource to get Samba and XP to work together01:24
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icecruncher!samba | supernix01:25
ubotusupernix: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:25
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xeen777em somebody know how to delete all files on the harddisc within some minutes or secundes ?01:25
richardh_Hi, I've got a pretty serious problem with CPU overheating ...anyone experience something similar?01:25
richardh_@xeen777: with a magnet, yes01:26
icecruncherrichardh_; no01:26
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archangel_how do you get the middle mouse (scroll push button) to work?01:26
xeen777i dont want to destroy my harddisc01:26
sonoftheclayrrichardh_: i did! but the hard disk had to be replacesd, a new heatsink and new fan01:26
xeen777damn -.-01:27
richardh_@sonoftheclay: oh, I hope that's not what my notebook requires...01:27
supernixI found the swat tool to be useless for helping to get samba working01:27
icecruncher!format | xeen77701:27
ubotuxeen777: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter01:27
sonoftheclayrrichardh_: well that was after the hard disk stopped working so if it's still working you should be fine :)01:27
archangel_how does linux work on the quad core cpu's?  ok?01:27
sonoftheclayrrichardh_: for noe01:28
richardh_well, my notebook worked fine until a few weeks ago..now my system slows to a crawl after a while...01:28
xeen777ok thx i will check this solutions01:28
archangel_building a new machine and I'm getting the good stuff01:28
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icecruncherarchangel_: dunno, never heard of it. lol01:28
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richardh_and the CPU is really working a lot...and the computer gets really hot...even though I hear the fan going once in a while01:28
root_hello anybody can guide me on how to do NATING01:29
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icecruncherroot_: what is that?01:29
root_internet connection sharing01:30
root_i have sify broadband on one LAN card01:30
icecruncherand what do you want to do?01:31
richardh_Oh, i Just noticed I don't seem to have a swap partition anymore...can this be part of the problem?01:31
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icecruncherrichardh_: yes01:31
sonoftheclayrrichardh_: the same thing happened on my old laptop!01:31
root_i have to share it on another LAN card01:31
richardh_how can the swap partition disappear all of a sudden?01:31
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archangel_how to do Nating = just sit there01:31
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icecruncherroot_: so you want an internet connection on 2 cards?01:32
richardh_@sonoftheclayr: the one with the broken disk?01:32
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mayureshon both cards01:32
sonoftheclayrrichardh_: no that was mum's desktop01:32
richardh_sonoftheclay: please say no haha01:32
richardh_sonoftheclay: and what did you do to remedy that situation?01:32
mayureshhow to do plz help01:32
sonoftheclayrrichardh_: no swap on that i can't get her to switch from windows01:32
mayureshhow to do NATING plz help01:33
icecruncher!patience |mayuresh01:33
ubotumayuresh: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:33
sonoftheclayrrichardh_: reformat a swap partition, sudo mkswap /dev/???, sudo swapon /dev/???01:33
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icecruncherwow, he left fast01:34
sonoftheclayricecruncher: yeah, some people have no patience i was about to google it for him and help01:34
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richardh_sonoftheclay: thanks...I'll look into that...01:35
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icecrunchersonoftheclayr: such is life...01:35
sonoftheclayrrichardh_: if you want to start it up at boot automatically you will need the UUID outputed by mkswap and enter it into your fstab01:35
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richardh_soneoftheclayr: alright...but I still wonder how that one could have disappeared...or maybe it's just not in fstab anymore in the first place?01:36
richardh_I'll check that01:36
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KasyxHi. I'm just about to install kubuntu, thought I'd say hi. I'm coming from Gentoo, so I'm hoping it's as easy at is sounds01:37
icecruncherKasyx: it's pretty nice01:37
jack_hi i've got the problem that apt-get thinks there is another process open, so it stops. comes from an interrupted update.triedt apt-get -f clean, but nothing works, thanks for any help01:38
icecruncher!it | adry9001:38
ubotuadry90: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:38
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sonoftheclayrKasyx: if you get feisty it's easier :)01:39
KasyxI use KDE on Gentoo just now, and there are a few apps I need to backup the data for (namely kopete) - it just a case of compying the appropriate /home/user/.kde folders?01:39
icecruncherKasyx: yes01:39
sonoftheclayrKasyx: yeah, i would think so01:39
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KasyxI'm having issues with my cd burner under gentoo (surprise surprise) so I can't get a new image. I've got 6.10 amd6401:40
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Kasyxicecruncher: thanks01:40
KasyxThought so, but always best to check01:40
Kasyxsonoftheclayr: what's the difference between edgy and fiesty?01:40
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icecruncherKasyx: 6.1 is still the official release, feisty will be release in 9 days01:41
jack_i i've got the problem that apt-get thinks there is another process open, so it stops. comes from an interrupted update.triedt apt-get -f clean, but nothing works, thanks for any help01:41
icecruncherjack_: the best thing is to log out and back in01:41
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:41
Kasyxicecruncher: ahh heh. Can edgy update itself to feisty?01:41
sonoftheclayrKasyx: when it is released01:42
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jack_icecruncher: i've done that no chance..01:42
icecruncherKasyx: not quite by itself, but yes, it's possible01:42
nosrednaekimKasyx: Yes01:42
sonoftheclayrKasyx: or if you want it now follow the link in the topic01:42
KasyxIs it just a kernel upgrade or something?01:42
nosrednaekimeven now...01:42
icecruncherKasyx: kernel and more01:42
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KasyxWhich kernel will feisty be on?01:42
icecruncher!adeptfix > jack_01:43
nosrednaekimKasyx: no.. there is an Xorg update, KDE update, update on everything..01:43
sonoftheclayrKasyx: it's on 2.6.20-14 at the mo01:43
nosrednaekimKasyx: 2.6.2001:43
KasyxFurther ahead than ~amd64 on gentoo01:43
Kasyxit's on -r6 or something I think01:43
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KasyxAh no, just r501:44
aneeshi...i want to install emule in ubuntu...how can i do it...anybody help me plz01:44
icecruncheranees: it''s under add remove, internet01:45
nosrednaekim14 is just the ubuntu specific name for little bugfixed...as is r6 in gentoo01:45
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Kasyxahhh I see01:45
Trunkkisoletan, ett tl on kubuntuosaajia01:45
nosrednaekimKasyx: as much as I'dlike to bahs gentoo here.... truth becons me other wise... ;)01:45
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jack_icecruncher: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.01:46
IlokaasuTrunkkis: #kubuntu-fi01:46
jack_it says that, but when i do that, there is a legal disclaimer from skype01:46
sonoftheclayrjack_: can you agree to the discaimer at all?01:46
jack_and i cannot agree to it by pressing enter, how can i say ok there?01:46
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sonoftheclayrjack_: space?01:47
jack_sonoftheclayr: thats the prb, not by hitting enter01:47
Kasyxnosrednaekim: Heh yeah I mean I like gentoo, it's just I've never got everything working fine. Even months later I'll find something that hasn't been tweaked to working. I'm hoping kubuntu will solve that01:47
nosrednaekimKasyx: I hear ya01:48
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jack_ok, forgot to move the cursor with the tab key..now it works thanks01:49
KasyxRight. /home is saved. Here it goes :-)01:49
nosrednaekimKasyx: although I have found that Kubuntu is one of the WORST KDE distros out there...01:49
jack_sonoftheclayr: and icecruncher thanks01:49
Kasyxnosrednaekim: howso?01:49
nosrednaekimBy way of its installed programs etc..01:49
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Kasyxnosrednaekim: does it install everything?01:49
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nosrednaekimKasyx: by the default programs, theme, etc01:50
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Kasyxnosrednaekim: But you can change all that, no?01:50
sonoftheclayricecruncher: i was wondering why you weren't dead01:50
nosrednaekimKasyx: oh yes...all of KDE, but it doesn't install programs like firefox...01:50
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: not quite yet01:50
nosrednaekimuses konqueror instead01:50
nosrednaekimwhich I just can't stand01:50
Kasyxnosrednaekim: Oh, that's a good thing then ;-) (I don't like ff)01:50
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: dinner is in like 3 min01:50
sonoftheclayricecruncher: good to hear01:50
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KasyxI've been using konq for months now, I prefer it over opera to some extent01:51
sonoftheclayricecruncher: yum, i ate like 2 hours ago01:51
KasyxRight, I'd better go install then01:51
nosrednaekimoh yes...01:51
KasyxSee you on the flip side01:51
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: lunch or breakfast?01:51
nosrednaekimKasyx: ahh... ok... are using fiesty of edgy?01:51
sonoftheclayricecruncher: tea01:52
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sonoftheclayricecruncher: it's nearly 10pm here01:52
icecrunchersonoftheclayr, more loke 7pm here lol01:52
nosrednaekimtea? is that britan's 4th meal?01:53
jack_icecruncher but can you help me with this if i am idle  my xorg cpu load goeas to 100% after a while01:53
icecruncherhow so?01:54
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nosrednaekimicecruncher: does it stay like that? is everything still responsive?01:54
sonoftheclayrnosrednaekim: tea? evening meal. britain? im from australia mate01:54
icecrunchernosrednaekim: me got no problems, it's jack_01:54
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icecruncherjack_: can you give details?01:55
jack_nosrednaekim: it freezes and i have to restart xorg01:55
icecruncheror is that all that happnes?01:55
jack_in top the highes cpu load is always xorg, the only thins i can do is loginto a konsole session01:56
icecruncherwell, of to dinner (or tea)01:56
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nosrednaekimhmm... apt-get just tried to do an update, automatically01:56
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nosrednaekimI'm on dial up... so I don't like it when it does such things01:56
nosrednaekimhow do you stop it from every doing that again??01:56
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jack_can anyone help with a nonworking mic in kubuntu?doesnt work in skype and sounrecorder, all tried02:00
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sonoftheclayrjack_: you have to enable it in kmix, click on the speaker that should be in your tray then on mixer, input tab and make sure that the mic is turned on02:02
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binksok adept is complaining another app is locking database how can i clear it02:02
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ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto02:04
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binkssuperman: hi02:05
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Blue_Tigerhi there :)02:05
supermanhope you all are well.02:06
supermanI need some help.02:06
binksgo on!02:06
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Blue_Tigercould someone give me a hint on how to set up Kubuntu to use firefox instead of konqi for links (e.g. when klicking on links in Konversation)02:07
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sonoftheclayrBlue_Tiger: in system settings somewhere02:07
supermanI want to install and setup beryl?02:08
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bronze_0_1"precision in all things"02:08
sonoftheclayrBlue_Tiger: default applications02:08
Blue_Tigerlooked there, but under "default applications" there is nothing.02:08
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Blue_Tigerie. there is a "web browser" tab, but it doesn't let me choose between the different browsers02:08
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Blue_Tigeri also tried on the shell, but the settings there seem to get ignored02:08
binkssuperman: what ver kubuntu u on02:09
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supermankubuntu 6.06.102:09
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ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:10
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binksgoto ubuntu effects m8 if you were on fiesty i could help02:10
sonoftheclayrBlue_Tiger: in the default applications tab there are two options select the bottom one and type firefox into the text box under it02:11
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Ginja_Ninjahello. I think i have some strange permissions problem. Example. My first user has a nice screensaver, but my second user just gets the bit white X, permissions ?02:11
Blue_Tigersonoftheclayr: thx a bunch :)02:12
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sonoftheclayrBlue_Tiger: np02:12
binksok adept is complaining another app is locking database how can i clear it02:12
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Jucato!adeptfix | binks02:13
ubotubinks: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:13
sonoftheclayrbinks: your not running apt-get or aptitude are you?02:13
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binkssonoftheclayr: no thanks02:13
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binkscheers Jucato02:14
supermanthanks will have a look .02:15
binksjust b4 i install one whats best ftp client02:15
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supernixI have a list of files that was upgradeable prior to my dist upgrade and for some reason they still show up even though the files I have are newer than the ones listed02:22
supernixis there a flush cache option in adept ?02:22
sonoftheclayrsupernix: not that i know of but you can fire up konsole and try sudo apt-get autoclean02:23
supernixhmmmm ok ty02:23
Ginja_Ninja I think i have some strange permissions problem. Example. My first user has a nice screensaver, but my second user just gets the bit white X, permissions ?02:24
supernixnice I didn't know that when you did an upgrade or install that it kept the install file02:24
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sonoftheclayrGinja_Ninja: do all the users have access to the screensaver files? are they in one users home folder or are they shares?02:25
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Ginja_Ninjasonoftheclayr: They are just the default ones that come with kubuntu02:27
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Ginja_Ninjasonoftheclayr: Not sure were they are stored02:27
sonoftheclayrGinja_Ninja: hmmm, that's odd. i can't think of anything02:28
Ginja_Ninjasonoftheclayr: Thanks anyway02:28
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sonoftheclayrGinja_Ninja: we could find that out02:28
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Ginja_Ninjaquick question if i had 5 users, how would i go about setting up a folder that all people could access? Would i put it in home called shared or something?02:30
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don_jr__what's the command to restart kde from within kde? ctrl-alt-backspace?02:30
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sonoftheclayrdon_jr__: that restarts X which will restart KDE02:30
don_jr__sonoftheclayr I thought so, it's not working for me this morning.....heh02:31
MenaWhy i got some prob in playing some files like .rm files although i insttaled the w32codecs02:31
Ginja_Ninjatry ctrl+alt+f2 ?  Then manually stop/restart it?02:31
Menain amrok*02:31
comosicusi don't know how to use ekiga02:32
don_jr__Ginja_Ninja yep, might do that, thanks02:32
davidharveyDoes anybody know if the default serial port behaviour changed between edgy and feisty?  My lirc/irman setup has stopped wanting to accept half my button programmings :(02:32
don_jr__what's the command to restart x from console?  /etc/init.d/kde restart isn't working02:33
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sonoftheclayrdon_jr__: sudo killall Xorg02:34
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jack_my smtp connection is refused, but not by the firewall02:34
don_jr__sonoftheclayr thanks02:34
davidharveydon_jr, did you sudo or sufirst? and its /etc/init.d/kdm restart02:34
jack_it says :Could not connect to host mail.gmx.net02:34
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jack_in kmail02:35
[Ag0ny] adept and apt-get keep crashing on me after my latest update, any advice/ideas?  in the console apt-get advances only so far as "segmentation faulty tree.....50%"02:35
don_jr__sonoftheclay that didn't work, said nothing killed.  davidharvey yes I put sudo in.  I'll try again02:35
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comosicusi don't know how to use ekiga02:35
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davidharveyydon_jr you wrote on here init.d/kde rather than kdm too02:35
sonoftheclayrcomosicus: try #ubuntu, they might be able to help more02:36
comosicusdid it02:36
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comosicusbut same thing...nobody knows02:37
donTHanks, that did it, it's kdm, not kde  I wrote it down wrong!02:37
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davidharveyno worries02:37
don_jr__how can I make alias' in konversation?02:37
don_jr__comosicus yes?02:38
Jucatodon_jr__: Settings -> Configure -> Command Aliases?02:38
Jucato(or Auto Replace, take your pick)02:38
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ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:38
Jucato!away > icecruncher02:38
don_jr__Auto Replace?02:38
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comosicus THanks, that did it, it's kdm, not kde  I wrote it down wrong!.....that wos for me......what it means kdm?!!!02:40
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davidharveyKDe Daemon02:40
JucatoKDM = KDE Display Manager02:40
davidharveydoh, my mistake02:40
Jucato!info kdm02:40
don_jr__comosicus I wasn't talking to you directly at that particular moment, I was speaking of a mistake I made earlier, I was doing it with kde restart, davidharvey pointed out it was kdM, so I had it wrote down wrong.02:41
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voicuhi, how do i copy a file from a computer i'm remotely connected to? (through ssh)02:41
icecrunchersonoftheclayr, adept is taking forever with the update, can I change the mirror where it's downloading from?02:41
ubotukdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4 (edgy), package size 612 kB, installed size 1480 kB02:41
sonoftheclayricecruncher: yeah i think so02:41
davidharveyit manages incoming network logins for GUI logins as well as your local one02:41
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don_jr__Jucato what did you mean, auto replace? I"m new to konversation.02:41
comosicussory....my mistake02:41
voicuexcept setting a ftp or something02:42
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: any idea how?02:42
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Jucatodon_jr__: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Auto Replace. but you were probably looking for Command Aliases anyway02:42
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sonoftheclayricecruncher: not really02:42
JucatoAuto Replace = automatically replaces text without having to use /something02:42
sonoftheclayricecruncher: what are you updateing?02:43
don_jr__Jucato yes, tired of typing in everything when I register, was gonna make an alias to handle it for me.02:43
icecruncherto edgy02:43
don_jr__OMG, how do I global connect kopete? I can't find a 'connect' button anywhere....02:43
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Jucatodon_jr__: command aliases then. but you could also do Settings -> Identity -> and fill in the fields for Auto Identify02:44
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Jucatodon_jr__: the first icon to the left in the toolbar02:44
JucatoSet Status icon, click and hold down02:44
icecruncherJucato do you by chance know how to change the mirror where you are downloading updates from?02:44
Ash-FoxWow, this is horrible, beyond the themes in in feisty, I can't really see any differences between edgy (with latest kde repositories for kubuntu) and feisty.02:44
don_jr__first icon to the left in the toolbar???02:45
JucatoAsh-Fox: there actually isn't much02:45
don_jr__Okay, got kopete online...thanks...I feel like such an idiot this morning.....02:45
Ash-FoxJucato, kind of suprised to be honest.02:45
Jucatodon_jr__: the main toolbar in Kopete. when you hover over that icon, it says Set Status02:45
don_jr__Jucato thanks, sorry...my brain is slow this morning...sheesh02:45
Ash-FoxI thought there was going to be a device manager, but I don't see that either.02:46
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JucatoAsh-Fox: main changes would be a different widget style (Polyester instead of Plastik), new logo on usplash, login screen, and splash screen02:46
[Ag0ny] can anybody help me? apt-get fails while building dependency tree, citing segmentation fault02:46
JucatoAsh-Fox: what new device manager? there were no such plans02:46
=== don_jr__ thanks sonoftheclayr. "I'm going to be needing that!"
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JucatoAsh-Fox: oh my bad. I thought you were saying there weren't much changes with regards to themes02:47
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Jucatoer "look and feel"02:47
sonoftheclayrfeisty is easier and faster02:47
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Ash-FoxJucato, mentioned here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverEducation02:47
Jucatothat's one.02:47
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Jucatoof course, new default KDE, new kernel, mostly newer packages02:48
Jucatoyes, that is for Ubuntu, not Kubuntu02:48
ubuntuHi all. Sorry for cold call, but does anyone know how to manually bootstrap a Kubuntu Feisty beta install? What I mean is ...02:48
Jucato!info restricted-manager feisty02:48
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uboturestricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.18 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 316 kB02:48
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ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate02:49
JucatoAsh-Fox: that one ^^^02:49
don_jr__Okay, I have firefox installed, how do I get it to recognize the flashplayer 9 I downloaded yesterday?02:49
icecruncherk, anybody know how to change the country where you download from(the updates)?02:49
ubuntuI'm on a new machine, booted with CD, KDE starts, then get a message "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly", and no installer stuff shows or anything.02:49
Ash-FoxJucato, ah, I'll look into it :)02:49
ubuntuHowever, machine seems to be running, and network works.02:49
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sonoftheclayrdon_jr__: you have to put the flash player library in the plugins folder in the firefox directory02:49
JucatoAsh-Fox: unfortunately, it's dependent on Synaptic, so you won't be seeing it on Kubuntu Feisty02:50
ubuntuIOW, is there a single command I can invoke to re-start the installation process (from inside a konsole, say?)02:50
don_jr__sonoftheclayr which directory is the flash player library? lol I do locate flash and there's alot!02:50
sonoftheclayrdon_jr__: did you download the tarball from adobe's website?02:51
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don_jr__sonoftheclayr no I downloaded the package from edgy-backports02:51
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: you think it's wise by just fiddling with the repo sources in adept manager?02:51
Jucatoit should automatically be detected by firefox02:51
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Jucatoicecruncher: fiddling with the repos in adept manager is the same as fiddling with it in a text editor02:52
sonoftheclayricecruncher: it creates backups doesn't it? provided you know what you're doing02:52
icecruncherJucato: true02:52
Jucatoyou can just change the us. to some other mirrors02:52
Jucatosonoftheclayr: doesn't create backups02:52
icecruncherya, which i'm not entirely sure02:52
sonoftheclayrdon't change it to au.archive.ubuntu.com because i can never connect to it!02:52
Jucatobut *you* should make backups anyway02:52
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icecruncherwell i wont02:53
davidharveyicecruncher:  if you are concerned about changing your sources, back up your original to your homedir or something bp "cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/"02:53
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[Ag0ny] can anybody help me with apt-get? it's so broken that I can't update, install anything and dpkg shows everything being fine02:53
vilius93Kubuntu dvd edition is same with CD edition?02:53
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sonoftheclayrvilius93: only with heaps of extra packages02:54
Jucato[Ag0ny] : how is it broken?02:54
don_jr__Jucato it doesn't just automatically catch it, I've found where the file libs are for the newer flash, but I don't know how to tell firefox to look thre02:54
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Jucatodon_jr__: what does about:plugins say?02:54
[Ag0ny] while building depenedency tree it segfaults02:54
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[Ag0ny] no matter what I do, it segfaults at a 50% build of the dependency tree02:55
don_jr__Jucato I figured it out.  I have 2 versions of firefox installed......found the updated one.  shesh I'm a dope today02:55
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icecruncheranyway, found my mirror, hope it goes faster now02:55
[Ag0ny] Jucato, any ideas?02:56
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Jucatohm... nope... :(02:56
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[Ag0ny] is there any way of forcing apt-get to reinstall something while ignoring the dependency tree?02:56
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gone|windoes fawn include pidgin?02:59
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sonoftheclayrgone|win: not kubuntu03:02
Jucatogone|win: it has GAIM (for now)03:03
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oofmanneed some help with installing jedit03:03
oofmanbasicly first time user, and have no idea what i'm doing03:04
ian2how would i set up a folder that was directly between users. Ie, the shared folder does not reside on either users space ????03:04
KasyxDoes kubuntu not detect wireless connections?03:04
sonoftheclayrKasyx: yes and no, but no03:05
Jucato!info jedit03:05
ubotuPackage jedit does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas03:05
cskjhi guys i'm having a problem in kopete03:06
oofmanis there a nother decint editor like jedit ?03:06
cskjmy sign in name is showing funny characters instead of what t's supposed to be in the chat windows03:06
cskjwhy do u think this is??03:06
Kasyxcskj: is your sign in name unicode?03:07
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cskjit's just basic characters03:08
cskjthese things03:08
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KasyxI don't know then I'm afraid03:09
KasyxI'd ask on #kopete03:09
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sivajii had swap partition ,but now i deleted that is it needed for 256mb ram03:12
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cskjok thanx03:12
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icecruncher!upgrade > icecruncher03:19
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kiwi__how do i partition the hard drive?03:21
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icecruncher!partition | kiwi__03:21
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ubotukiwi__: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter03:21
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gorskii lost my menu-panel on KDE. How to recuperate?03:23
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apricotmy computer blocks when i log off after root session in kde.03:24
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Jucatogorski: press Alt+F2, type in "kicker"03:24
gorskii deinstalled kicker.03:25
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Jucatoer, then reinstall kicker03:26
Jucatosudo apt-get install kicker03:26
kiwi__i need some help with dual boot03:26
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kiwi__first step is to partition the hard drive rite?03:26
wilykatgorski, if you open up a konsole with alt-F2 run konsole03:26
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wilykatsudo apt-get install kicker03:27
apricotmy computer blocks when i log off after root session in kde.03:27
kiwi__ive tried sudo gparted and sudo qtparted03:28
kiwi__wont work03:28
icecruncherkiwi__: windows?03:28
icecruncher!grub | kiwi__03:28
ubotukiwi__: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:28
dromern a console, how can I see how big a certain folder is? like, how many files/folders and what size it contains?03:28
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icecruncherdromer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands03:30
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kiwi__i dont need grub i already have it03:30
kiwi__i havnt installed windows yet03:30
don_jr__What's a good mp3 player for kubuntu?03:30
icecruncherkiwi__: wo what is the problem?03:30
kiwi__i need steps on dual boot03:31
icecruncher!dualboot | kiwi__03:31
ubotukiwi__: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)03:31
kiwi__first thing im tryin is to partition the hard drive03:31
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dromerthnx icecruncher03:31
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luciano56c' qualche italiano?03:33
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icecruncher!it | luciano5603:33
ubotuluciano56: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:33
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ebovineDoes anyone have a solution for hot-plugging a second monitor/projector into a laptop on edgy?03:34
luciano56ok thank you very much bye03:34
icecruncherluciano56 your welcome03:34
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XtaZywhat is the default user/pass on the feisty livecd?03:35
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icecruncherXtaZy: I don't think there is one, otherwise try google it03:35
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JucatoXtaZy: user name = ubuntu. password = blank03:35
Jucatoas in blank password03:36
don_jr__Where is the executable file that runs amarok?03:36
icecruncherthanks Jucato03:36
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wilykattype whereis amarok or maybe amarokapp03:36
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XtaZyso in kubuntu its kubuntu/blank ?03:36
wilykatdavidharvey@gremlinstew:~$ whereis amarok03:36
wilykatamarok: /usr/bin/amarok /usr/lib/amarok /usr/bin/X11/amarok /usr/share/man/man1/amarok.1.gz03:36
ninHerhi all03:37
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don_jr__wilykat thanks03:37
chxhi. amarok eats more resources than I could afford and really I do not need anything fancy, just an app which is able to play a few MP3s and have a global shortcut for next , previous, play, pause. Any suggestions?03:37
wilykatno probs03:37
wilykatchx: vlc?03:37
icecrunchervlc's great!03:38
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wilykathaven't used it much myself but is quite powerful and can be quite minimul too03:38
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chxwilykat: may be. never used that.03:38
chxok, let me see that.03:38
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dromerdamnit, somehow I excidentally deleted all the mp3 in a folder (all subfalders are still intact), I was using konqueror and deleting 2 files called Album_Art_*03:38
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icecruncherdromer, trash can03:39
Jucatoicecruncher: and in 1-2 weeks you'll be upgrading to feisty? :D03:39
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chxicecruncher: wow. not to desperate you but Feisty is around the corner :)03:39
dromerI deleted these two files with shift+del though .. is there any way I could retreive all these deleted files? (over 20gb o.O)03:39
icecruncherJucato: no not yet, maybe in a month03:39
Jucatounfortunately... no03:39
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chxdromer: ext3 is known to be notoriously bad for undelete purposes03:39
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dromerit's so strange that all my mp3 in all these subfolders (lots where in folders above the folder I was working in) got deleted :S03:40
icecruncherchx: hey jsut had a system crash, had to reinstall everything yesterday03:40
icecruncher4 mins03:40
chxdromer: over 20Gbyte files, it's not likely even a cleanroom HDD company would be able to restore that.03:40
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dromerdamnit :(  it's so strange that all the folders are still intact .. I have NO idea wtf happened03:40
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icecruncher!language > dromer03:41
dromerI just selected the two files I wanted gone pressed shift+delete and konqueror started deleting everything, pressed stop as fast as I could and now all the mp3 in all the subfolders are gone :S03:41
dromersorry icecruncher03:41
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: I am almost done with the update, had to swictch to thailand from australia. lol03:42
sonoftheclayricecruncher: hahaha03:42
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geggamLeeJunFan, u alive ?03:43
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chxwilykat: good shot.03:44
chxwilykat: very nice. now, how do I get global shortcuts? this is not a KDE app.03:44
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mipsAnyone here installed Feisty ?03:51
LeeJunFangeggam: you still there? what's up?03:51
sonoftheclayrmips: yeah03:51
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ian2i want to be able to have a directory between users that everyone can share. Create folder as root and create a shared group or something. Whats the best way ?03:52
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mipssonoftheclayr, did you have gfx issues on bootup ? My display is all garbled junk03:52
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sonoftheclayrmips: no, everything went smoothly03:52
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geggami was gonna ask if u made beryl run under a higher priority and i then remembered u used schedutils... after looking i realized that simply renicing the process was really all one needed to do LeeJunFan03:55
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geggami reniced it to -15 and beryl is flat smooth now03:55
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LeeJunFangeggam: cool, I don't really need to mess with the beryl process, simply setting the prio on X seems to be the trick for me.03:56
geggamsame here03:56
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geggamthey should incorporate that into beryl ... renicing it to about -15 makes it really really smooth LeeJunFan03:57
MenaHI, is there a way to lock a folder with password on kubuntu03:57
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Menahem ?03:58
[Ag0ny] I have a broken apt-get / adept, can somebody help?03:59
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:59
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[Ag0ny] nothing as simple as that I'm afraid03:59
Mena[Ag0ny] , this should fix any lock or any crash on adept04:00
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[Ag0ny] Mena, done it already, and when apt-get builds dependency tree it gives a segfault at 50%04:01
sonoftheclayryay! it's tomorrow!04:01
Mena[Ag0ny] , hmmm04:02
[Ag0ny] Mena, would you like to see the backtrace of adept crashing?04:02
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Mena[Ag0ny] , i am not very experience04:02
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Mena[Ag0ny] , myabe some one else would help04:02
Mena[Ag0ny] , sorry :)04:02
[Ag0ny] not your fault04:02
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sonoftheclayr[Ag0ny] : are you able to use dpkg?04:04
[Ag0ny] yes04:04
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[Ag0ny] sonoftheclayr, any ideas?04:05
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[Ag0ny] tried flushing with dpkg still no dice04:05
sonoftheclayr[Ag0ny] : no ideas, not yet anyway04:06
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sonoftheclayr[Ag0ny] : sudo rm /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin && sudo rm /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin04:09
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[Ag0ny] sonoftheclayr, already cleared the cache04:11
sonoftheclayrhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2020462 [Ag0ny]  checked out this thread?04:12
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sonoftheclayr[Ag0ny] : do you have wpasupplicant installed?04:12
[Ag0ny] no04:13
sonoftheclayr[Ag0ny] : okay, more trawling of the net04:13
ian2how do i make a folder only accessable by certain users?04:13
[Ag0ny] chmod it04:13
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cytHi all, will a Feisty RC be released?04:31
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fdovingcyt: i belive there will be RC isos as usual. a few days before release.04:32
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annieeany way to get SB x-fi to work in kubuntu?04:34
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cytfdoving: Thx :)04:34
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don_jr__how do I use a .bin file?04:37
geggamchmod +x file.bin04:38
fdovingdon_jr__: usually, chmod +x file.bin and ./file.bin04:38
geggamill be quiet now04:38
fdovingno, don't04:38
fdovingi'm going for dinner :)04:38
geggami have work04:38
don_jr__geggam thanks04:38
don_jr__trying to get java set up for firefox04:39
Resisterhi irc is kinda new to me.. which command do I have to use to send a password and a nickname?04:39
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ks3anyone know how i can prevent system settings from changing my .fonts.conf file?04:39
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don_jr__Resister /msg nickserv register <password>  Will register the nick you are using now04:39
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Resisterdon_jr,, ty :D04:39
geggamapt-get install sun-java6-jre04:40
geggamissue solved04:40
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don_jr__thanks, was just about to check apt-get before I downloaded the .bin file, now I know exactly what I need.....amarok sux, when it's open I can't open anything else, have to shut off amarok, open what I need, then restart amarok...lol04:40
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Resister@don_jr anything better then windblows media player lol :P04:41
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don_jr__Resister I guess on that, I just changed over to linux, still learning alot and trying to get things setup the way I want them.04:41
don_jr__only major drawback I've found(and did know ahead of time) is gaming...I can't get wine to work to save my life...lol04:42
Resisteryep, but the disadvantage of most distributives is that you have to do a lot by hand... but when you have something running once, it runs perfectly04:43
Resister@don_jr: don you need cedega to run games on linux?04:43
don_jr__Resister yeah I havn't had any major problems yet, and all the problems I've run into, someone in here has been able to help me figure out, so I"m pleased thus far.04:43
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don_jr__Resister the folks over at #winehq say I don't have to have it, it's just going to take a bit more work to get some of them to run.04:44
Resisterok :)04:44
Resister@don_jr what country are you from, if I may ask? I'm from the Netherlands04:45
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don_jr__Okay geggam I used the script file to install the latest firefox, not using the normal apt-get firefox...would you be able to tell me how to get it to recognize the fact that I just installed java? lol04:46
geggamrestart firefox04:46
geggamthen put in the address bar "about:plugins"04:46
geggamno quotes04:46
geggamtell me if it is already04:46
Resister  04:47
don_jr__geggam okay, restarting it now04:47
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl04:47
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke04:48
don_jr__geggam nope, it's not showing there, only flash and future splash show04:48
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geggamcd to /home/$yourlogin/.mozilla04:50
don_jr__the site says I need to make a symbolic link to the acctuall java file in the plugins folder....I don't know how to do that! lol04:50
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geggamu have a console open ?04:51
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geggamcd ~/.mozillla/plugins04:51
don_jr__doing now04:51
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geggamln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun- .04:51
don_jr__geggam no such file or directory...heh04:51
don_jr__I found the plugins folder04:52
geggami had 3 l's04:52
don_jr__3 L's where??04:53
geggam3 l's is a typo04:53
don_jr__that isn't the way mine is installed anyways, my firefox is installed under /opt/firefox/plugins04:54
geggamif u do it in your home and u change firefox to something else it will still work04:54
don_jr__I just created it, now to see if it worked04:54
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don_jr__I got the right folder or whatever it took, it's working!  Thank you very much geggam04:55
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intelikeyanyone know a source of "real" modems ?04:59
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intelikeyor anyone know a brand of pci modem that are not winmodems ?05:00
eeanmthats an old-school question intelikey :)05:01
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don_jr__any mudders in here?05:04
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compilerwriterdon_jr I sort of am a mudder though not much of late.05:06
intelikeysorry  ?05:06
geggamintelikey, get a courier v everything external or some internal us robotics05:06
geggamk delivery here05:06
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stevethepiratehello all.05:06
MK_Mikewhen is the next ubuntu release, i want to mark it on canander?05:06
intelikeygeggam k.       ty.05:07
stevethepirate19 april05:07
stevethepirateme thinks05:07
JucatoMK_Mike: target is April 1905:07
Jucatobut can be a bit later05:07
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don_jr__compilerwriter I was just gonna see if anyone had any suggestions as to a decent client for kubuntu05:08
compilerwriterJucato:  Is feisty safe enough that if I back up well I can rest assured it won't totally crap out my system.05:08
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compilerwriterdon_jr__ mmucl05:08
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Jucatocompilerwriter: still on beta, so the usual warning still apply05:08
stevethepirateMmm.. how do i kill the xserver? I need to install this nvidia driver...05:08
don_jr__alrighty, I'll look into it, thank you05:08
Daisuke_Idodoes kubuntu do cpu frequency scaling on amd64 cpus automatically?05:08
stevethepirateJucato: its running fine on about 50 pc's up at campus..05:09
intelikey!nv | stevethepirate05:09
ubotustevethepirate: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:09
compilerwriterJucato I was hoping it was in very stable beta.05:09
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ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:09
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stevethepiratei've got them. (the .run file) just need to know howto kill x.05:09
Daisuke_Idosudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop05:10
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Jucatostevethepirate: Ctrl+Alt+F1, then the command Daisuke_Ido gave05:10
intelikeyor invoke-rc.d05:10
stevethepirateand to start?05:10
stevethepiratethe same with start at the end?05:10
Daisuke_Idoreplace stop with start :)05:10
stevethepirateya. thought so..05:10
MK_Mikeanyone know whats gonna be in the new release?05:11
intelikeythe names are the same only the faces have changed....05:11
Daisuke_Idomt pc is slightly louder than i like, which is fine when i'm working, but when i'm trying to sleep, i'd really like to let it run, just...  more quietly.  time to figure out frequency and fan control :)05:11
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JucatoMK_Mike: you can see the previous Beta and Herd 1-5 release announcements for the new features05:12
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zak_how do i make packages like eclipse use the sun JRE instead of gij?05:15
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intelikeyman update-alternatives05:16
zak_i have sun-java6-jre [or whatever it's called]  and friends... but i can't work out how to re-install eclipse to use it05:16
Jucatozak_: sudo update-alternatives --config java05:17
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zak_ah thanks Jucato05:17
hak5fanHello. For some time now I have expirienced a somewhat strange problem when I boot up kubuntu. I'm dropped to tty1 when the machine is booted allthough kdm is running I have to swich to that virtual desktop with ctrl + alt + f7 In order to get to the graphical login screen. Why is this happening?05:18
kkerwinHi. For some reason, by /usr partition was automatically mounted read-only for even root, and it cannot be remounted rw. This has happened three days running. Anyone know how I can remount it rw without having to reboot (mount -w /usr and mount -a don't work), and also what is going on to cause the problem in the first place?05:18
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intelikeykkerwin could be failing fsck ?    could be set ro in /etc/fstab ?    at any rate    sudo mount -o remount,rw /usr     should work.05:21
kkerwinintelikey: mount: block device /dev/disk/by-uuid/421679a2-333b-4fb5-9d6c-0f2ea72d3c3a is write-protected, mounting read-only05:22
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Daisuke_Idoi've seen three different daemons that appear to do the same thing - powernowd, cpufreqd, and cpudyn.  powernowd is installed by default, is there any reason to use any of the others?05:22
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anti_popmy K-Menu doesnt add fresh installed stuff, why is that ?05:22
intelikeyhak5fan is kdm set to give you a console login?   (i refuse to use the convoluted "kdm" it writes in /root)05:23
kkerwinintelikey: Problem with the drive?05:23
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intelikeyanti_pop don't know what you installed...   sudo update-menus05:23
hak5fanintelikey: I don't know what it's set to. How do I change it?05:24
intelikeykkerwin fsck /dev/disk/by-uuid/421679a2-333b-4fb5-9d6c-0f2ea72d3c3a05:24
wooi need filemanager as far at win, it exist?05:24
anti_popi installed package: kdegames.. sudo: update-menus: command not found05:24
kkerwinintelikey: Do I need to unmount first?05:24
intelikeyhak5fan look in the kdm menu05:24
intelikeykkerwin no.  it's mounted ro.05:24
kkerwinintelikey: K. Just playing it safe. Thanks.05:24
Daisuke_Idowoo: ...what?05:24
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intelikeyanti_pop mmmm ....   install menu  and run it    :)05:25
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Yorokobi!ru | woo05:26
ubotuwoo:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke05:26
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intelikeyanti_pop but kde-games should show in your kmenu without "menu" installed05:26
anti_popdid it, no success05:26
seb_helo ya des fransais ici ?05:26
anti_popintelikey: yup, but it doesnt here05:27
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kkerwin!fr | seb_05:27
ubotuseb_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:27
intelikeyanti_pop what release ?05:27
anti_popintelikey: feisty, should i go in #ubuntu+1 ?05:27
intelikeyyeah prolly.05:27
anti_pop/jon #ubuntu+105:27
intelikey/join #ubuntu+105:28
intelikeysome clients accept   /j ubuntu+105:28
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intelikeysome don't05:28
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anti_popwas a typo05:28
anti_popintelikey is it possible to reset the menu somehow ?05:29
Yorokobianti_pop, you could try kappfinder, perhaps05:30
anti_popalready did05:30
anti_popwill add some stuff but nothing i need or miss05:30
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kkerwinintelikey: Rebooting. Hopefully that did it.05:30
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anti_popill restart x, maybe that will do it05:30
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danny500big problem05:31
blekoshi, there's supposed to be a pre-installed option for having 3d desktop etc, any idea?05:31
carl__is there some way I can view a kernel boot log other than the one I'm currently running?05:31
danny500some of my programs won't work at all05:31
intelikeyanti_pop ummm reset as in remove customizations yes.   i think it's in ~/.kde/apps/config/kicker*   not sure.05:31
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danny500Hi Jucato05:32
cntblokder ?05:32
cntb!ping lokder05:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ping lokder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:32
Jucatoyo danny500!05:33
hak5fanintelikey: I've looked all over the kdm menu and it doesn't say anything about wheter or not to give me a console login05:33
intelikeyFilthpig look in /var/log/05:33
danny500been a while lol whats up man05:33
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Jucatodanny500: doing ok. about to hit the sack :)05:34
intelikeyJucato can you point hak5fan at the option for "terminal login" kdm    ?