[12:12] <jthomas> eilker what do you mean?  and can i fake it?
[12:13] <jthomas> (is anyone using Konversation that knows a great way to prepend user names without typing them before each comment in a conversation?)
[12:13] <eilker> i am not surei just reading that script
[12:13] <jthomas> eilker yeah its a pain
[12:13] <eilker> jthomas: use tab for it
[12:13] <jthomas> eilker: AWESOME
[12:13] <jthomas> eilker: THANKS
[12:13] <jthomas> lol
[12:13] <eilker> :)
[12:14] <jthomas> saving me much headache with THAT one!
[12:14] <jthomas> eilker: i may play with it more later but i cannot right now
[12:14] <eilker> yeah i looks like no support for ubuntu
[12:14] <eilker> i use radmin in windows
[12:15] <jthomas> radmin?
[12:15] <eilker> yeah it is like pcanywhere
[12:15] <eilker> but client cant know that u view his/her monitor
[12:15] <eilker> and process on it
[12:15] <eilker> it is legal not trojan
[12:16] <jthomas> eilker: i jut rebooted my work computer here into Windows and for some reason it cannot see my network; the client requires the use of pcAnywhere so i gotta figure it out one way or the other!  maybe tomorrow my Windows won't suck... yeah right...
[12:17] <eilker> ohh i see, good luck
[12:17] <voidmage> How do i rip a dvd in k3b?
[12:18] <LordOfHeat> what to use for DVB-S viewing on kubuntu
[12:18] <LordOfHeat> other then kaffeine
[12:19] <Yorokobi> !info dvdrip | voidmage
[12:19] <ubotu> voidmage: dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[12:21] <jthomas> voidmage: what version of k3b?  if its v1.0 or higher, its one of the menu options
[12:21] <jthomas> voidmage: otherwise, get the program k9copy which is great
[12:21] <jthomas> voidmage: dvd::rip is a pain and you'll only get avi files or something, not a proper DVD
[12:22] <voidmage> ah
[12:24] <[Ag0ny] > does anybody have some spare time to help me get my usb and 2nd display working?
[12:28] <jthomas> [Ag0ny] : whats the problem?  and a 2nd monitor is a pain, you may have better luck browsing the forums where people's patience isn't so limited ;)
[12:28] <[Ag0ny] > heh I understand that
[12:28] <[Ag0ny] > I have a bit of a tricky laptop that i'm working with, an Averatec c3500
[12:28] <[Ag0ny] > can't get USB nor 2nd monitor to work
[12:28] <alphi_> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/15776-how-mount-usb-flash-drives-linux.html
[12:28] <[Ag0ny] > I have the older BIOS
[12:29] <alphi_> that has a basic linux usb key mounting walkthrough
[12:29] <[Ag0ny] > I know how to mount, the device isn't found
[12:29] <alphi_> ah
[12:29] <jthomas> [Ag0ny] : older BIOS might mean that USB is slow forever until you get a new hardware/motherboard
[12:29] <jthomas> or get an USB add-on card
[12:29] <jthomas> or does it not work at _all_ ?
[12:29] <[Ag0ny] > jthomas, the older bios are the only ones that will recognize USB at all
[12:29] <[Ag0ny] > not working at all
[12:29] <[Ag0ny] > as in not recognized
[12:30] <[Ag0ny] > nothing even at the kernel level
[12:30] <jthomas> what are you testing with?  mouse or keybd?
[12:30] <[Ag0ny] > mouse and thumbdrive
[12:30] <jthomas> it could also be physically broken/fried, or it may not be supported :(
[12:30] <[Ag0ny] > nope
[12:30] <jthomas> have you tried with a different linux, or with windows/osx?
[12:31] <[Ag0ny] > used it on other installs on different boxes, same version of kubuntu
[12:31] <jthomas> but this box == never? sure it works?
[12:31] <[Ag0ny] > I'm positive it's an issue with not recognizing usb
[12:31] <[Ag0ny] > in windows the ports work fine
[12:32] <jthomas> reboot and then type <dmesg> and read the output to see if it discusses USB, or right now plug something in and run that command (in a konsole/terminal)
[12:32] <jthomas> that tells what the kernel is doing
[12:32] <jthomas> if it mentions USB then the kernel sees it
[12:32] <[Ag0ny] > I know about dmesg
[12:32] <jthomas> or try booting with an older kernel when you get to Grub
[12:32] <jthomas> cool
[12:33] <AdamKili> I had to install kubuntu 6.06 because 6.10 install wouldn't work. now how do I upgrade to 6.10? apt-get dist-upgrade isn't working
[12:33] <HaSH> LeeJunFan, if you are still around. earlier you said to edit ~/.bashrc and uncomment the lines to do with bash_completion ...i dont see anything to do with auto complete i there..or any of the ~/.bash* files.....am i missing somthing?
[12:33] <[Ag0ny] > and have tried and I can't find any messages about the usb
[12:33] <jthomas> 6.06 is the "LTS" and won't hae an upgrade until the next LTS release... but you could try with dist-upgrade after changing your /etc/apt/sources.list file... however I have heard BAD things about that upgrade...
[12:34] <jthomas> i don't know then...
[12:34] <jthomas> sorry
[12:34] <jthomas> maybe in Windows get an *.exe that upgrades the BIOS
[12:34] <AdamKili> nevermind I figured it out
[12:34] <LeeJunFan> HaSH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14775/
[12:34] <jthomas> get that from the motherboard manufacturer
[12:34] <philphoto> how do I unpack and install a .tgz file?
[12:34] <LeeJunFan> HaSH: look toward the bottom - line 72
[12:35] <jthomas> i have to go
[12:35] <[Ag0ny] > jthomas, don't have windows on here anymore
[12:35] <Yorokobi> HaSH, you can copy the dist versions of the .bash* files from /etc/skel/.bash*
[12:35] <[Ag0ny] > peace
[12:35] <HaSH> LeeJunFan, ok will do...my ~/.bashrc was like 10 lines
[12:35] <jthomas> Ag0ny i don't know... no Windows is usually good! but for BIOS upgrades, not many people supply Linux progs... go look at the manuf website though
[12:35] <jthomas> good luck, sorry!
[12:36] <LeeJunFan> HaSH: you can replace it with that one - the one I pasted is a feisty default w/ the only change being bash_completion turned on.
[12:37] <HaSH> LeeJunFan, hmm im using edgy ...this wont affect me adversly?
[12:38] <LeeJunFan> HaSH: it shouldn't. you could just mv ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc.bak then put mine in .bashrc and if it doesn't work well put your .bashrc.bak back in place.
[12:38] <Yorokobi> HaSH, or cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~
[12:38] <LeeJunFan> HaSH: of course you'll have to open a new shell to see the difference after changing .bashrc
[12:39] <HaSH> yea thansk both of you fir ya help
[12:40] <moparisthebest> haha, the 7.04 upgrade just hosed my installation :P
[12:51] <jeffto> hi everybody
[12:52] <jeffto> right now I'm having troubles with kubuntu edgy, I just install yesterday on my laptop and since today I'm getting this at start up time: bug soft lockup detected on cpu0
[12:52] <jeffto> Have someone an idea about hoe to fix it?
[12:56] <shrikrishna> What are some good KDE IMEs for Indian languages such as Marathi and Hindi?
[12:57] <samoul> Hi i'm bored any body have something interesting to show me, so that i'm discovering something new? A nice program? A nice web site avec cool stuff of linux, kubuntu?
[01:01] <aseigo> shrikrishna: IMEs?
[01:01] <shaggyoaf> hi, everybody
[01:01] <shaggyoaf> if I apt-get source something
[01:01] <shrikrishna> aseigo: A way to enter languages in English and Indian languages.
[01:01] <shaggyoaf> is there an easy way to build a deb from it?
[01:01] <shaggyoaf> the Makefile doesn't seem to have a 'deb' target
[01:02] <aseigo> ah... input method.
[01:02] <jarn> checkinstall
[01:02] <jarn> shaggyoaf: checkinstall
[01:02] <jarn> shaggyoaf: start compiling it like normal but then instead of doing 'make install' do 'checkinstall'
[01:02] <aseigo> shrikrishna: does that require multi-byte input? i thought it was just a keyboard mapping + proper ligature synthesis as you typed?
[01:02] <shaggyoaf> woah, what a sweet tool!
[01:02] <shaggyoaf> thanks
[01:04] <jarn> Hrm... if I see this when I type lspci "00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller (rev a1)" does that mean that I can use a SATA hd?
[01:04] <moparisthebest> can someone help me recover my system after upgrading to 7.04 beta?
[01:04] <moparisthebest> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:04] <moparisthebest> is the error it freezes up on
[01:05] <moparisthebest> or right after that anyway
[01:05] <moparisthebest> even when I try to boot into recovery mode it freezes up there
[01:05] <moparisthebest> so I don't even have a command line :(
[01:10] <moparisthebest> can someone help me recover my system after upgrading to 7.04 beta?
[01:10] <chijin> try #ubuntu+1
[01:11] <moparisthebest> thanks
[01:11] <gemidjy> I noticed the package beryl-kubuntu in latest feisty upgrade, but couldn't find any visual change, what does this package do anyway? (or ask@ #ubuntu+1?)
[01:12] <sdlnxgk> anyone know where I can find the package for xslt-config ??
[01:13] <carlos> hi! I have installed the packets apache2, php5 and libapache2-mod-php5, but I cannot see php documents properly :(
[01:15] <kgx> carlos: whats the problem?
[01:15] <MinceR> !away > Kite_DH|away
[01:17] <carlos> when I click on a .php kubuntu asks me how it must be opened
[01:17] <carlos> instead opening it with firefox
[01:22] <dewprism> how do i make it so i dont have 24 bit colors and have 16bit or something windows compatible instead? >.>
[01:23] <dewprism> m'kay then
[01:27] <alphi_> this sounds like a dumb question i am sure, but how can i create a new folder in Konsole, as in what is the command to make a new folder
[01:29] <dewprism> good question :|
[01:29] <TheDebugger> mkdir ninja
[01:30] <alphi_> awesome, thanks
[01:30] <TheDebugger> ( Will make a new folder called.. ninja)
[01:30] <alphi_> i got that :)
[01:30] <alphi_> i just changed ninja to linux, so i could toss in some files to make rtai happy
[01:30] <TheDebugger> rtai?
[01:31] <alphi_> yarr
[01:31] <alphi_> so that worked, now it wants efltk-config >.>
[01:32] <alphi_> to get real time driver things going i need comedi, to get comedi i need RTAI, to get RTAI i needed a fresh kernel, among all kinds of other things, i hope i am near the end of the list now though
[01:33] <euther> I'm seeing KNetwork Manager failure to maintain input over reboot, though no difficulties on the standard Ubuntu partition (herd 5 installations + updates)
[01:33] <euther> wholly wired network, unlike the reports at bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:33] <dauoalagio2> hello is there a baseball for linux?
[01:33] <TheDebugger> Why do you need rtai anyway?
[01:34] <alphi_> to get comedi up
[01:34] <TheDebugger> And what is comedi? :P
[01:34] <alphi_> i need to test some DAQ boards for functionality
[01:34] <asoldier> I'm having trouble navigating to the windows desktop path so I can execute a program on my windows desktop using wine
[01:35] <alphi_> honestly i couldn't tell you, but from what i understand it makes driver writing much easier, i'll tell you once it works >.>
[01:35] <carlos> hi! I have installed the packets apache2, php5 and libapache2-mod-php5, but I cannot see php documents properly :(
[01:35] <carlos> when I click on a .php kubuntu asks me how it must be opened
[01:35] <carlos> instead opening it with firefox
[01:35] <dxdt> Normally the special keys on the front of my laptop, that control sound, etc, work, but this time they don't.  I don't know why.  Anybody know a command or what program is in charge of that so I can kill it/ reopen it or whatever?
[01:35] <dxdt> I tried killing kmix already
[01:35] <dxdt> no go
[01:42] <misstrik> j'adore !
[01:42] <koyo001> j'ai un probleme
[01:42] <koyo001> avec kubuntu
[01:44] <kgx> carlos: add the following line to httpd.conf
[01:44] <kgx> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[01:45] <carlos> let me see...
[01:47] <HaSH> can someone give me an example of a /etc/fstab entry for a fat filesystem with read/write priv...im trying to add my ipod to it using uuid
[01:47] <koyo001> hi
[01:47] <asoldier> I've noticed that most of the programs I use aren't very compatible to WINE
[01:47] <HaSH> but i only have reiserfs entrys
[01:48] <koyo001> does anyone know how to reset add remove
[01:48] <HaSH> asoldier, nope. not that many things work with wine. i find simple programs do
[01:49] <asoldier> Hash : I find that anything using an advanced UIS or UIS2 or freeform skin environment or xml-based skin environment is not readily accepted by WINE
[01:50] <HaSH> yea . its hit or miss. what are you trying to use asoldier?
[01:51] <asoldier> hash : I tried hamachi, http://voodoochat.com < chat client, MM Dreamweaver, Windows Media Player, etc.
[01:51] <asoldier> None of which worked
[01:51] <carlos> kgx: i've added the line but it doesn't work... :(
[01:52] <HaSH> asoldier, use mplayer for wmp. chat client i use gaim and i *think* it may be possible to use dreamweaver
[01:52] <HaSH> if that helps ya out at all...
[01:52] <asoldier> I tried dreamweaver, but it simply isn't compatible.
[01:52] <asoldier> I believe there's a linux version of dreamweaver available anyway
[01:53] <HaSH> asoldier, ah. you can use vmware to install windows inside linux..
[01:53] <asoldier> I have a windows platform under the grub boot menu
[01:53] <HaSH> asoldier, there was. but it was blatenly a hack of mm...it even still had their logs in it.l
[01:53] <HaSH> asoldier, yea but i prefer to use windows inside linux.
[01:53] <HaSH> but thats just *me*
[01:53] <asoldier> Hash : have a link or two?
[01:54] <pollyo> Inside wine some of my windows files already have viruses according you aegis
[01:54] <kgx> carlos: forgot to mention, you'll need to restart apache: /etc/init.d/apache restart
[01:54] <HaSH> asoldier, http://www.vmware.com/download/
[01:54] <alphi_> has anyone here installed RTAI on their system? i am having a problem with the installation
[01:55] <asoldier> has : I had Virtual PC on windows and it screwed my brain to bits.
[01:56] <HaSH> asoldier, ah ok. ive used vmware for a while and have had 0 issues with it.
[01:59] <HaSH> can anyone who has any kind of fat filesystem paste to me their line in /etc/fstab ?
[01:59] <carlos> well, i have to leave
[02:00] <carlos> hasta la vista
[02:01] <carlos> ups
[02:02] <carlos> kgx: did you mean /etc/init.d/apache*2* restart ??
[02:02] <kgx> yep
[02:02] <carlos> i tried to, but it doesn't work
[02:02] <kgx> hmm, sorry can't help much then (am at work, so kinda busy). try apache docs. the problem is likely to be with apache
[02:03] <carlos> .php files should be open from everywhere, shouldn't they?
[02:03] <carlos> antwhere i meant
[02:03] <carlos> anywhere*
[02:04] <hendaus> hi
[02:04] <hendaus> Helpers  is there a way to convert 5 files dat2mpg from vcdgear?
[02:04] <doblezero> Hola a todos
[02:04] <mrdlouisd> i lost my program bar how do i get it back?
[02:04] <flaccid> mrdlouisd: run the program 'kicker'
[02:05] <carlos> hola doblezero :P
[02:05] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[02:05] <hendaus> !es | doblezero
[02:05] <ubotu> doblezero: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:05] <carlos> :D
[02:05] <mrdlouisd> says its already running
[02:05] <Dell190> I had to reinstall Windows, and now it won't show the boot loader.. how do i get it back?
[02:06] <doblezero> gracias
[02:06] <benko_> hendaus: I'ld do if I could ;)
[02:06] <doblezero> slo estoy redactando un manual de Konversation
[02:06] <doblezero> y haciendo unas capturas
[02:06] <doblezero> poneos guapos para salir en l...
[02:06] <doblezero> XD
[02:06] <carlos> ah si?
[02:06] <benko_> Kannst du Kasperl nicht English schreiben?
[02:06] <carlos> saludos!
[02:07] <doblezero> jeje
[02:07] <flaccid> mrdlouisd: you talking about the main panel?
[02:07] <doblezero> haber como me keda
[02:07] <benko_> pronto
[02:07] <hendaus> benko_, ./vcdgear -dat2mpg /media/cdrom0/2.DAT gawwar2.mpg , now how can i add three converting filres
[02:07] <carlos> doblezero, metete en el #kubuntu-es
[02:07] <doblezero> no domino muy bien este programa
[02:07] <Dell190> Anyone?
[02:08] <doblezero> pero de entrada parece ofrecerme solo este canal
[02:08] <carlos> pincha en #kubuntu-es
[02:08] <benko_> hendaus : I can't help ya, sorry about that.
[02:08] <doblezero> mmm
[02:08] <mrdlouisd> yes flaccid
[02:09] <flaccid> run killall kicker first
[02:10] <benko_> flaccid: Is'nt kicker the panel?
[02:10] <flaccid> benko_: yes?
[02:10] <benko_> flaccid: Ok, just wanted to be sure.
[02:11] <flaccid> hopefully that is what is meant by program bar
[02:11] <koyo001_> i have problems with the add and remove
[02:12] <flaccid> brb
[02:12] <koyo001_> how can i get on a ubuntu forum>?
[02:13] <benko_> koyo: you could search the web...
[02:13] <mrdlouisd> yes that is what i meant i killed it then started it again but it shows for a second and dissapears again
[02:13] <benko_> I know a good one, but it's German.
[02:13] <mrdlouisd> I had enabled the hide bar option after set amount of time could that be a problem?
[02:14] <comosicus> i'm trying to configure ekigasftphone.......but at connection type is  when i choose 56k modem nothing happens.......my comp freez
[02:15] <mrdlouisd> i enabled kicker and didnt allow it to auto hide and just changed the hide option
[02:15] <mrdlouisd> thanks for the killall and kicker
[02:18] <benko_> kubuntu 7 will be released this month?
[02:18] <kgx> not sure...im just waiting for kde4!
[02:19] <dthacker> benko_: yes
[02:20] <benko_> kgx: Is KDE 4 available with Kubuntu 7?
[02:20] <HaSH> hmm anyone know of a guide to installing prevu on edgy?...
[02:20] <comosicus> helooooo
[02:21] <dthacker> benko_: no
[02:21] <benko_> no, sorry hash
[02:21] <dthacker> burgerspace
[02:21] <benko_> dthacker: Does Kubuntu upgrade to 7 automatically?
[02:22] <comosicus> dar daca vorbesc in limba mea.................
[02:22] <benko_> I take a guess: No ;)
[02:22] <dthacker> benko_: right!
[02:22] <flaccid> benko_: no
[02:22] <benko_> Harr.
[02:23] <benko_> ok, no prob.
[02:23] <benko_> but compiz will be on board, not to bad.
[02:23] <comosicus> hmmmmm
[02:24] <neptunepink> comosicus: hi
[02:24] <benko_> Is anyone very well experienced with beryl?
[02:25] <profoX`> benko_: why are you asking
[02:26] <comosicus> at last
[02:26] <dthacker> !anyone
[02:26] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:26] <archangel_> I have an adept issue
[02:26] <benko_> I have a little "wobbling" problem ;)
[02:26] <archangel_> I keep getting this error when trying to update
[02:26] <flaccid> i have a hameroid problem
[02:27] <benko_> *lol*
[02:27] <dthacker> I'm being chased by giant pickles
[02:27] <profoX`> benbread: hm you'd better go see the doctor
[02:27] <archangel_> command adapt_updater not found
[02:27] <profoX`> benko_: sorry benbread, stupid <tab>
[02:28] <comosicus> neptun...my problem is solved now...but ...what for is ekiga?
[02:28] <profoX`> benko_: whats wrong with wobble? (wow those are a lot of w's)
[02:29] <neptunepink> comosicus: ekiga is the feeling of dizziness you get when you get up too quickly out of bed and such
[02:29] <HaSH> can anyone help me with this http://pastebin.ulteo.us/499
[02:29] <comosicus> i whant to hear someoane from my buddy list.....and someoane recomend me ekiga
[02:29] <benko_> profoX: hehe, the prob is: it ran ok, and stuck to the edges but now it's jumping a bit when it's stuck
[02:29] <benko_> I hope you know what I mean.
[02:29] <comosicus> do you muck me?!!!!
[02:29] <profoX`> benko_: not really :) which version are you running
[02:29] <archangel_> anyone brave enough for an adept issue?
[02:30] <benko_> 0.2.0
[02:30] <flaccid> pickels!
[02:30] <profoX`> benko_: I use that one too. Works fine here.. did you change the wobble settings yourself?
[02:30] <flaccid> archangel_: the command is adept_updater iirc
[02:30] <profoX`> benko_: but I think I have the edge sticking off..
[02:30] <dthacker> HaSH: you're missing a file, was it supposed to downloaded?  Was it supposed to be on the machine already?
[02:31] <benko_> yea... I played a lot with beryl and then, suddenly... hm
[02:31] <profoX`> benko_: oh, and I'm running 0.2.1 instead
[02:31] <profoX`> benko_: tried restarting beryl?
[02:31] <HaSH> dthacker, yea im following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iPodVideoEncoding ..its step one
[02:31] <archangel_> flaccid: where do I put it... terminal?
[02:31] <neptunepink> comosicus: yes, I am, I don't know what ekiga is
[02:31] <benko_> sure, it worked before and now it sucks. The stucked window jumps a bit up, down, left, right... all the time.
[02:32] <HaSH> i didnt have src in my sources.list so i added them and did apt-get update
[02:32] <profoX`> benko_: sounds like real fun
[02:32] <profoX`> benko_: maybe a new dance plugin
[02:32] <flaccid> archangel_: goto alt+f2 if you are running kde shortcuts or go kmenu -> run command
[02:32] <benko_> no :(
[02:32] <benko_> *lol*
[02:32] <profoX`> benko_: well, I haven't heard of the problem before, I thought you had a more easier to solve problem ;)
[02:33] <comosicus> i-m tryng to open ekiga and my com says that"ekiga ia allready running"    but i can't find on my task barr....
[02:33] <benko_> oh and another thing: double klick on the window titles left image closes the window using kwin
[02:33] <profoX`> benko_: you can always search for a bugreport or post one
[02:33] <benko_> doesn't work with beryl
[02:33] <archangel_> it says "could not run the specified command"
[02:33] <chunter> Anybody ever put a hard disk with a running Kubuntu setup from a pentium and put it in an AMD 64?  I'm wondering if or how I can get the existing install to 64-bit.
[02:33] <dthacker> HaSH: or maybe it can't find that repository . I can't quite tell from the message
[02:34] <profoX`> chunter: hm is the kubuntu install 64bit or 32bit?
[02:34] <comosicus> i-m tryng to open firefox web brwser and my com says that"firefox web browser allready running"    but i can't find on my task barr....
[02:34] <chunter> the install was 32 bit (it lived in a Pentium 3 machine for five years)
[02:34] <profoX`> chunter: if its just the x86 version that you installed on the amd 64 then I think you have a good chance that it'll work
[02:34] <comosicus> i cant find him at all
[02:34] <HaSH> dthacker, hmm well yea some of the repos the source o matic gave me dont work.....where can i find a updates list of edgy sources
[02:34] <benko_> hm...and last but not least: kwin put the window "intelligent" to the upper right or left side, if the lower area is filled with other windows.
[02:34] <benko_> Also won't work with beyl
[02:34] <benko_> beryl
[02:34] <profoX`> chunter: I tried pentium 2 -> pentium 4 and pentium 4 -> pentium M before, that worked fine..
[02:35] <flaccid> archangel_: goto a terminal and run whereis adept_updater
[02:35] <archangel_> k
[02:35] <dthacker> I would GTFI for the file names and see if you can find repositories that way
[02:35] <profoX`> chunter: and since the kernel is in essence the same in x86, I don't see why it wouldn't work
[02:35] <neptunepink> comosicus: alt-f2, `killall firefox-bin` should get it
[02:35] <HaSH> dthacker, gtfi?
[02:35] <profoX`> chunter: except for maybe the video card you'll have to reconfigure xserver-xorg if its different..
[02:35] <chunter> profo:  It works, I'm running it now...  I think what I'm asking is how or if I should go for 64-bit kernel and such...
[02:35] <archangel_> adept_updater:
[02:35] <dthacker> comosicus: ^^^^neptunepink beat me to it
[02:35] <archangel_> thats what I get
[02:36] <benko_> But for now, I try to get the 0.2.1 version.
[02:36] <chunter> profo:  Spent the last three hours going from ati to nVidia, no problem there now.
[02:36] <dthacker> Google the "Fantastic" Internet
[02:36] <profoX`> chunter: oh, well, I wouldn't do that personally..
[02:36] <HaSH> !source
[02:36] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[02:36] <comosicus> thanks
[02:36] <flaccid> archangel_: what about dpkg -l | grep adept
[02:36] <HaSH> !repos
[02:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:36] <profoX`> chunter: not all applications (commercial and/or closed source apps mainly) have no 64bit version
[02:36] <archangel_> rc  adept                                  2.0ubuntu2
[02:36] <profoX`> chunter: and otherwise you'll have to mess around with 32bit chroots.....
[02:36] <profoX`> chunter: no fun
[02:36] <archangel_> package manager for KDE
[02:37] <profoX`> chunter: (flash plugin, skype..)
[02:37] <HaSH> hmm is there a better to use source generator other then source o matic. sourceo matic gives me ones that are down or dont work
[02:37] <flaccid> archangel_: looks like it was removed with only runtime config left
[02:37] <flaccid> archangel_: run sudo apt-get install adept
[02:38] <chunter> profoX: So it's best to just keep things as they are, which is to say, working. :)  Thanks
[02:38] <profoX`> HaSH: could you please post a bug report about the ones that don't work on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-nl-website/+filebug ?
[02:38] <profoX`> chunter: yea, if it aint broken.... :p
[02:38] <profoX`> chunter: why mess around
[02:38] <chunter> :)
[02:38] <profoX`> chunter: 64bit doesnt give you that much of an advantage with regular applications anyway
[02:39] <archangel_> ok done (lot of stuff came up)
[02:39] <HaSH> profoX`, sure but my #1 concern atm is getting this fixed. i dont want to get side tracked filing  a bug report
[02:39] <archangel_> lol, newbie talk
[02:39] <profoX`> chunter: and it consumes more memory :p
[02:39] <chunter> profo: I never thought of that, though it ought to go without saying.
[02:39] <flaccid> archangel_: hehe. so it runs now?
[02:39] <archangel_> oh, let me check
[02:40] <archangel_> seems to be hanging
[02:40] <HaSH> does anyone have a sources.list that is fully working for edgy?...prefbly with alot of repos..
[02:40] <profoX`> HaSH: oh, well, I don't know anything thats better than source-o-matic, but I might know a few good repositories.. what do you need?
[02:40] <archangel_> yeah, nothing happends
[02:40] <profoX`> HaSH: a lot of repos is generally a bad idea if you don't need them :)
[02:40] <profoX`> HaSH: especially bad for upgrades from edgy -> feisty
[02:41] <HaSH> let me paste what happens when i use apt-get update
[02:41] <HaSH> profoX`, i dont want feisty. just edgy
[02:41] <chunter> Hash:  I'll share mine with you if you want but like profo says:  The more you have, the longer updates will take, especially since the repos will trounce each other and cancel each other out all the time.
[02:41] <archangel_> sounds like a few people have the same probblem
[02:41] <sonoftheclayr> does anybody use monkey messenger?
[02:41] <chunter> hash:  Used to try to take from six Debians at once, it sucked
[02:42] <HaSH> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/500
[02:42] <profoX`> chunter: wow
[02:42] <regeya> IM for simians?
[02:42] <profoX`> chunter: I'm already disgusted when I use Edgy packages on my Feisty install
[02:42] <profoX`> chunter: it just feels wrong
[02:42] <HaSH> i basicly want alot of packages lol
[02:42] <regeya> meh...
[02:43] <sonoftheclayr> regeya: it isn't even finished yet, i found it on the panet ubuntu feed, it looks like a small fast msn client
[02:43] <HaSH> but if either of you would care to paste you sources.list id appreciate it.
[02:43] <archangel_> flaccid: nothing happends at all now
[02:43] <regeya> with a name like that, it must be some kind of gnome thing
[02:44] <chunter> profo:  When you're going bleeding edge sometimes you need to include the stable stuff to keep it from breaking.
[02:44] <sonoftheclayr> regeya: yeah, it is a gtk app
[02:44] <archangel_> flaccid: but the errors are gone
[02:44] <benko_> well thanks so long.
[02:44] <benko_> I'll leave you, see yah!
[02:45] <flaccid> archangel_: run kdesu adept_updater from konsole and see what happens
[02:46] <chunter> Hash:  have you added universe and multiverse?
[02:46] <archangel_> X error        sh: adept_updater: command not found
[02:46] <HaSH> chunter, i do belive so.
[02:47] <chunter> Er...  what does 'sudo apt-get install adept' say?
[02:47] <chunter> That was to archangel
[02:47] <archangel_> oh ok
[02:47] <flaccid> archangel_: then your adept install was probably unsuccessful
[02:47] <flaccid> um thanks chunter
[02:48] <chunter> hash: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest edgy main (latest amarok)
[02:48] <archangel_> it says ALOT of stuff
[02:48] <chunter> archangel: Quote it
[02:48] <chunter> hash: deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian stable  (Blackdown Java)
[02:49] <HaSH> here is my sources.list http://pastebin.ulteo.us/501
[02:49] <chunter> hash: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main (Canonical's collection)
[02:49] <pollyo> !bug
[02:49] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:49] <flaccid> archangel_: pastebin the result
[02:49] <HaSH> but i get alof ot errors when using apt-get update
[02:49] <HaSH> the beryl one. and well i cant sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg
[02:50] <HaSH> so somthing is wrong with my sources i do belive
[02:50] <archangel_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14800/
[02:50] <flaccid> run apt-get -f install
[02:50] <flaccid> then try again
[02:50] <flaccid> always good idea to read the output :)
[02:51] <flaccid> you probably need to run an apt-get upgrade first
[02:51] <flaccid> as well
[02:51] <chunter> Hash:  add that amarok line I gave you, otherwise that's similar to what I built mine from. I got rid of stuff I don't care about or use though, like 'bleeding edge' and beryl.  I might try beryl soon though
[02:52] <archangel_> how do become root
[02:52] <HaSH> chunter, i already have that one added.
[02:52] <neptunepink> archangel_: sudo bash
[02:53] <archangel_> it says try using -f   ?
[02:54] <neptunepink> would you honestly trust man? their a rather suspicious bunch....
[02:54] <flaccid> archangel_: you don't need root. run it under sudo: sudo apt-get -f install
[02:54] <chunter> hash: Good :)  Are you running beryl now?
[02:55] <HaSH> no.. ive used it. but its not realy functional. to much bling.
[02:55] <darryl_> Does anyone here use Remote Desktop to thier computer from Windows?
[02:55] <koyo001_> how do i go to the forum for ubuntu
[02:55] <archangel_> wow
[02:55] <flaccid> koyo001_: with a web browser
[02:55] <HaSH> im trying to get vidoes on my ipod. but the guide im folowing says i need to recompile ffmpeg but i cant follow what the guide says due to somthing with apt now workin
[02:55] <flaccid> darryl_: yes
[02:55] <archangel_> something is working
[02:56] <profoX`> HaSH: Beryl is more than bling
[02:56] <koyo001_> web broser
[02:56] <darryl_> flaccid: how do you do it?
[02:56] <koyo001_> i wanna acces the irc for ubuntu
[02:56] <profoX`> HaSH: I actually think it makes me work easier, but lets not get into that kind of discussion
[02:56] <flaccid> darryl_: i use firefox or opera
[02:56] <archangel_> sweet done
[02:56] <flaccid> darryl_: i mean i use krdc
[02:56] <HaSH> yea.
[02:56] <darryl_> flaccid: come again?
[02:56] <dthacker> darryl: I use rdesktop
[02:56] <archangel_> what now?  done?
[02:57] <neptunepink> darryl_: I don't think there's a server for rdp, but their is for vnc, which is similiar
[02:57] <flaccid> koyo001_: /join #ubuntu
[02:57] <darryl_> flaccid: how does that let you connect to Linux from Windows?
[02:57] <profoX`> HaSH: I actually use input enabled zoom and scale a lot, the rest is mostly eyecandy for me, but still nice to see and show
[02:57] <flaccid> darryl_: i corrected my self. i use krdc
[02:57] <darryl_> neptunepink: yea but VNC is SOOOO slow
[02:57] <HaSH> yea i only use it to show off what linux is capable of
[02:57] <flaccid> which is a frontend to rdesktop iirc
[02:57] <profoX`> I use FreeNX.. its pretty fast
[02:57] <darryl_> flaccid: From Windows XP you use krdc???
[02:57] <neptunepink> I think there's one that isn't, but I don't know which
[02:57] <dthacker> argh, backwards I read that
[02:58] <flaccid> oh wrong way round
[02:58] <flaccid> i use vnc in that case
[02:58] <archangel_> brb
[02:58] <flaccid> vnc is not slow
[02:58] <darryl_> profoX`: Does that have a Windows version to access ?
[02:58] <darryl_> VNC is sooooo slow
[02:58] <profoX`> darryl_: I'm not sure, but I think so
[02:58] <flaccid> yes it does
[02:58] <flaccid> no its not slow
[02:58] <darryl_> it is for me
[02:58] <flaccid> !Xvnc
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <flaccid> darryl_: maybe you use it wrong or badly configured
[02:59] <profoX`> darryl_: I only tried FreeNX on linux machines, but it works really fast on LAN
[02:59] <flaccid> !find xvnc
[02:59] <ubotu> Found: xvncviewer, linuxvnc, xvnc4viewer
[02:59] <neptunepink> !freenx
[02:59] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[02:59] <chunter> profo and hash:  I get the impression that beryl is going to give us the OS X 3d cutesy tricks and basically be the future of our desk environment.  I don't own an ipod so I can't help with that
[02:59] <flaccid> hmm
[02:59] <profoX`> darryl_: and I think there is a windows client too
[02:59] <darryl_> flaccid: when I use Nomachine NX Client its lighting fast - when I use VNC its soooo slow
[02:59] <profoX`> chunter: well, not just Beryl, the whole composite experience
[02:59] <profoX`> chunter: the toolkits have to keep up too
[02:59] <darryl_> problem with nomachine is it starts a new session instead of taking over you main session
[03:00] <flaccid> darryl_: well NX is probably going to be faster in most situations. but slow is really a subjective label. sysadmins have been happy with the speed since it came out
[03:00] <HaSH> hmm i have the linux-headers for the kernel im running. but i get this : Checking build requirements...
[03:00] <HaSH> Linux kernel (2.6.17-11-generic) source directory [/usr/src/linux] :
[03:00] <HaSH> Error: /usr/src/linux does not exit
[03:00] <profoX`> chunter: Gtk and Qt should try to share this future vision by getting the same underlying layer for widget animation/compositing features.. hmm.. what about libclutter? :)
[03:00] <Ginja_Ninja> hello. I am in kubuntu. How would i go about making a second drive the home directory (for users) ? thanks
[03:00] <darryl_> flaccid: yea NX Client is so much faster - but like I said I need it to take over my main session - which it wont do - it only starts a new X Session
[03:01] <profoX`> darryl_: flaccid: don't expect to be running 3D games over NX :P but for the rest its fast enough, also 3D will refresh fast enough by the way, just not fast enough to play a game
[03:01] <chunter> hash:  You need linux-headers or linux-source
[03:01] <darryl_> profoX`: I dont want it for games just for work, access internet etc and all apps that are open in my main session
[03:01] <chunter> hash: or is that kernel-headers or kernel-source?  Something like that.  Search for 'headers'.
[03:02] <HaSH> chunter, yea i do have them installed
[03:02] <profoX`> darryl_: oh, havent tried taking over the current session yet.....
[03:02] <profoX`> darryl_: my NX server is just a server for NX clients
[03:02] <darryl_> profoX`: that is what I need to do / what im on here trying to find out how to do :)
[03:02] <profoX`> darryl_: dont look at me :p don't even know if its possible, but it should be
[03:02] <chunter> hash:  ls /usr/src
[03:02] <profoX`> darryl_: I mean.. it would be a big missing feature if it couldn't
[03:03] <HaSH> chunter, there is no sy link linux....theres no /usr/src/linux
[03:03] <profoX`> well i'm out
[03:03] <profoX`> good luck
[03:03] <darryl_> profoX`: but NX runs like the GUI version of "screen"
[03:03] <HaSH> man dapper was way way better imo
[03:03] <darryl_> so you need to have a running session
[03:03] <profoX`> darryl_: eh? that's not true
[03:04] <HaSH> dapper was very few problems. edgy has been one problem leading to a new problem
[03:04] <flaccid> profoX`: yes i know about NX
[03:04] <darryl_> profoX`: ????
[03:04] <flaccid> darryl_: that is the reason why. its not using display 0
[03:04] <profoX`> darryl_: what are you trying to say? I can login on the NX server in a new session without a running session
[03:04] <flaccid> the rfb polling on 0 is one reason for the overhead with vnc
[03:05] <profoX`> hey but I got to go..
[03:05] <darryl_> profoX`: no
[03:05] <profoX`> darryl_: well, what do you mean with session?
[03:05] <profoX`> darryl_: X session? gnome-session?
[03:05] <darryl_> flaccid: yea thats what I need to do connect to display:0
[03:05] <darryl_> KDE
[03:05] <archangel_> what is the command to find out what version your running?
[03:06] <HaSH> so how can i get this to work? i have no /usr/src/linux yet i have the kernel source(linux-headers) installed for the kernel iam currently using.
[03:06] <flaccid> darryl_: use xvnc :)
[03:06] <profoX`> darryl_: okay I'm confused, I think we misunderstand eachother, but I really have to go now....
[03:06] <profoX`> later
[03:06] <flaccid> and don't complain about the speed :) its not mean to be something performance driven
[03:06] <darryl_> flaccid: yea I have used VNC but i just have too many issues with its performance
[03:06] <flaccid> are you sure nx can't do console display 0 ?
[03:07] <darryl_> flaccid: I love how fast NX Client is
[03:07] <flaccid> darryl_: you must be one of the few people that do
[03:07] <darryl_> flaccid: if it can thats what im here trying to find out how to do
[03:07] <archangel_> what is the command to find out what version your running?
[03:07] <darryl_> archangel_: uname -a ???
[03:07] <HaSH> anyone know what /usr/src/linux should point to?.
[03:07] <flaccid> darryl_: probably not the best place for help with NX
[03:07] <flaccid> archangel_: lsb_release -a
[03:08] <archangel_> thats it, thanks
[03:08] <darryl_> flaccid: yea I was hoping someone here was doing what I am tryign to do
[03:08] <flaccid> google seems to have help on the topic
[03:08] <darryl_> flaccid: I been on google the last 3 days before asking here
[03:08] <flaccid> and you read
[03:08] <flaccid> !freenx
[03:08] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:08] <pagan0ne> im having a rather weird problem, i was running beryl, it froze, as it occasionally does, ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x, it restarted, but x wouldnt come back up, so i switches to a terminal and rebooted, x comes up, but now kde acts weird, the desktop icons dont load, and if i goto the kde menu, and select "run" kde completly locks up
[03:08] <archangel_> dude, I dont understand this at all
[03:09] <HaSH> can someone with linux-headers installed run this command and tell me what it says? "ls -la /usr/src/linux"
[03:09] <archangel_> still running dapper
[03:09] <pagan0ne> HaSH: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 40 2007-03-18 11:43 /usr/src/linux -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-11-generic
[03:09] <chunter> hash: /usr/src/linux -> linux-headers-2.6.15-23-686
[03:09] <pollyo> Hello
[03:09] <chunter> hash:  (A symlink to my headers)
[03:10] <flaccid> darryl_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX looks like its for display 0 ?
[03:10] <HaSH> thank you guys :-) ....yea i dont know why mine didnt make that sym link
[03:10] <meo> hello
[03:10] <pollyo> II got the Last.FM Player working.  Finally. It has something to do with my sound setup and the KDE sound system.
[03:10] <pagan0ne> anyone have any clue how to go about fixing my kde problem?
[03:10] <darryl_> flaccid: im just lookign at that now - I have not yet seen that still reading
[03:11] <chunter> pagan:  Try to uninstall beryl and see if things will stabilize first
[03:11] <HaSH> bah this sucks. Checking build requirements...
[03:11] <HaSH> Error: Kernel source code is incomplete - /usr/src/linux/drivers/md/dm.h not found.
[03:11] <pollyo> Anyone know how to figure out the Audio device one might have?  My KDE sound system says Autodetect and has a dropdown with quite a few options.
[03:11] <HaSH> mfer. even after i sym link it...its not working
[03:11] <flaccid> darryl_: ok cool
[03:11] <darryl_> flaccid: hrmmm I dont see any mention if it starts a new session or lets you resume your old one
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> pollyo: is your sound working?
[03:12] <pagan0ne> chunter: well beryl isnt set to start on session load, i load it manually, (its not loaded now) and kde doesnt have any desktop, and the kde menu locks up if i try to "run" anything
[03:12] <pollyo> nosrednaekim: Yes my sound works.
[03:12] <chunter> pollyo:  sudo lsmod
[03:12] <darryl_> flaccid: but I do see that I can use the Windows nomachine NX Client to connect
[03:12] <flaccid> darryl_: thats why i'm assuming its display 0 as it says access your desktop. give it a try can't hurt i guess
[03:12] <darryl_> flaccid: yea I will give it a go
[03:12] <pagan0ne> chunter:  do you think beryl could stll have some sort of effect even though its not running?
[03:12] <flaccid> darryl_: failing that try xvnc
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> pollyo: so you just want to see if it is using alsa or arts or oss or etc??
[03:13] <chunter> pagan:  Try to get X running with no 3d.  It's either corrupt software or broken hardware if it's acting like that; the software is easier to change :)
[03:13] <darryl_> flaccid: yea - want to avoid xvnc if possible - thanks for tips
[03:13] <pollyo> nosrednaekim: Yes.
[03:14] <pagan0ne> chunter: well i dont think its hardware, due to the nature of the incident
[03:14] <flaccid> darryl_: thats cool. can't help trying it however. its different as its an x server and vnc server in one, so its performance is different..
[03:14] <pollyo> Also what is a good number for the KDE sound system to release?  I lowered it to 1 from 60 as a test to get Last.FM Player working.
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> I'm sure how to tell, I THINK the default(chosen by automatic)is alsa
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> release?
[03:15] <Jucato> good evening Admiral_Chicago
[03:15] <pollyo> Ok.  that lsmod shows some things.  Should I be looking for snd_ stuff?
[03:15] <don_jr__> Anyone here use kmldonkey?
[03:15] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there Jucato :) just got back to my school
[03:16] <chunter> pollyo: I leave mine loaded at all times, but then again, when I play Last.fm I use amarok, not the last.fm player
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> pollyo: I'm not sure that lsmod will show which sound system you are using..
[03:16] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: just got back to my own studies (from a looong weekend break :P)
[03:16] <chunter> pollyo:  I also use the dmix plugin on alsa, so that if arts is hogging the port, and another program wants alsa, it will still play
[03:16] <pollyo> chunter: I have no problems with Amarok playing last.fm service.  The stand alone player package lastfm is another story.
[03:17] <pollyo> chunter: Where is that?
[03:17] <chunter> pollyo:  Try launching it from the command line as 'artsdsp last.fm' or whatever
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> which engine is Last.Fm designed to use?
[03:17] <pollyo> chunter: OK.  So prefix it with artsdsp with my original sound system settings?
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> xine, gstreamer? or its own..
[03:18] <chunter> pollyo:  About dmix?  I'll google it and see if I can find the howto.  alsa also has cutesy built in ways to roll your own 7.1 surround from multiple soundcards, if you ever get the notion
[03:18] <pollyo> I'm new to all this ... Been using Kubuntu for just about 30 days.
[03:18] <pollyo> chunter: This is an old computer.
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> !lastfm
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lastfm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> !last.fm
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about last.fm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <chunter> pollyo: I understand.  I've used a linux of some kind since 1995, and the computer I replaced just this afternoon was a Pentium 3; I know where you're coming from
[03:19] <don_jr__> Would anyone be able to help me get it so I can adjust my screen res without editing the xorg.conf file manually?  I understand will have to modify it in some way to fix it so it can be done in kde, I just don't want to modify it every time I want res changed.
[03:19] <chunter> !amarok
[03:19] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> don_jr__: like for switching between monitors?
[03:19] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: might find this link article just a bit interesting (since it's indirectly related to firefox) http://community.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/04/09/1833235
[03:20] <pollyo> I put my setting back to 60 seconds for the kde sound system to release if it is inactive.  Now trying that first idea with the prefix of artsdsp
[03:20] <flaccid> archangel_: did you fix your problem
[03:20] <don_jr__> nodrednaekim no just to change resolution.  I'm not sure the exact resolution I want to use yet, just got set up yesterday, but I can't change it from within kde
[03:21] <pollyo> Can I do artsdsp lastfm from the run command in the K menu?
[03:21] <pollyo> It didn't work from there.
[03:21] <Dell190> i need help with GRUB, i reinstalled Windows and now it is gone
[03:22] <pollyo> Let me try from a shell.
[03:22] <chunter> pollyo:  You should be able to do it from 'run' if the lastfm binary is in your path
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> don_jr__: get "randr"
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> !randr
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about randr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <pollyo> It worked from the shell.
[03:22] <chunter> pollyo: http://floatingsun.net/articles/howtos/howto-alsa-dmix.html
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> don_jr__: or rather... search for that in synaptic/adept not sure what the exact package manager is
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> package manager-> package name
[03:23] <don_jr__> I've used randr command before, but just to reset my res when wine doesn't change it back to normal, how do I set it to what res I want?
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> oh.... wine....
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> your problem has to do with after quiting wine?
[03:23] <don_jr__> no not want to change resolution because of wine, I just want to be able to change my screen resolution when ever I want without having to manually alter the xorg.conf
[03:24] <pagan0ne> Dell190: boot off the ubuntu cd. mount /boot and do a grub-install as root
[03:25] <flaccid> !grub > Dell190
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> don_jr__: randr will do that
[03:25] <pollyo> chunter: Thank you. I bookmarked it.  I'm going to give it a try later.
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> as long as the resolutions are in the screen modelines
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: seems like Swiftfox may be breaking licensing issues. I'll investigate
[03:26] <pollyo> chunter: Is this a common problem for KDE?  I noticed they mentioned it on the site.
[03:26] <don_jr__> nodrednaekim okay cool, I'll google for randr or something then, I have it already I just don't know how to use it accept for it to set things back to default.
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> right.... good luck
[03:27] <don_jr__> next, I believe I have the updated flash package, how do I tell konqueror where to look for it, it still shows I'm running version 3.2.0 or something....
[03:27] <chunter> pollyo:It's more about arts than KDE but the fast answer is yes...
[03:28] <chunter> pollyo:  It isn't even technically a problem and might be resolved with something they're trying to work into KDE 4 if I remember right
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> don_jr__: I think you, oddly enough, have to put it in your .mozzila
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> don_jr__: or maybe you can install it manually..
[03:29] <pagan0ne> what do i do if apt-get hangs while removing a package?
[03:29] <the_hammer> any automatrix2 users here?
[03:29] <the_hammer> ??
[03:29] <Jucato> !automatix
[03:29] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> don_jr__: ahh go to configure  in konqueror, then click on plugins... and then rescan..
[03:30] <the_hammer> !WorksForMe
[03:30] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:30] <the_hammer> lol
[03:30] <the_hammer> alrighty then
[03:30] <QuaX> hi
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> the_hammer: you can get anything through normal repos that you could with automatix
[03:31] <Apollo101> iam using kubuntu. i just restored a backuped image of hdb2. at boot it says 'failed to open journal device. unknow block 0.0. ext3 journal in .... something.  and its not mounting.   what can i do? (i think the backup i made didnt supported linux partitions
[03:31] <HaSH> can anyone help me get the kernel headers correctly installed?. becasue simply installing them with apt DOESNT work.
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> HaSH: umm... why not?
[03:32] <HaSH> nosrednaekim, 1st off it dint make a sym link of /usr/src/linux
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> you have to get the right set... make sure it PRECISELY matches uname -a
[03:32] <QuaX> i have a small problem with my kubuntu installation: I installed 7.04 ff and didn't get my nvidia gfx card working, Now, after installing it per nvidia installer from nvidia.com it works, but my wi-fi device hase gone away... i can't use wlan at the moment
[03:32] <Iwonder|too> hash does the headers you installed match uname -a?
[03:32] <QuaX> is there anyone who might be able to help me?
[03:32] <HaSH> then when i make one to the kernel source iget incompleate source
[03:32] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, yea they match
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> QuaX: yes.... whats your wireless chipset.. and what driver were you using?
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> HaSH: then make a symlink..
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> if you are sure it installed them..
[03:33] <HaSH> nosrednaekim, i did.
[03:33] <don_jr__> nosrednaekim thanks for the konqueror advice, gonna try it now
[03:33] <QuaX> i have centrino notebook and i use the ipw3549 driver
[03:33] <HaSH> nosrednaekim, this is what i get after making the link and trying to install this : Checking build requirements...
[03:33] <HaSH> Error: Kernel source code is incomplete - /usr/src/linux/drivers/md/dm.h not found.
[03:33] <Iwonder|too> kubuntu doesn't do the /usr/src/linux symlink,manually create it if you are compiling source that needs it
[03:33] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, i did see my last post ^^
[03:34] <Iwonder|too> hash ls -l /usr/src
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> QuaX: ok... not familiar with intel wireless  but are you sure the corect driver is loaded at the moment?
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> do a "lsmod"
[03:34] <Iwonder|too> you should see about 4 headers sources
[03:34] <the_hammer> hash i have something may help ya
[03:34] <QuaX> ipw3945 is loaded
[03:34] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/502
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> QuaX: can you scan for AP's?
[03:34] <Iwonder|too> verify the one you are using is the correct one
[03:34] <QuaX> but i can't say if that IS the correct one
[03:34] <HaSH> the_hammer, im all ears
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> QuaX: it probably is
[03:35] <QuaX> i have no interface
[03:35] <philphoto> hey folks, having trouble with some scanners.  any help out there?
[03:35] <QuaX> so i cant scan something, because there is nothing to scan with
[03:35] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, it is. i made the link to the headers for the kernel i am currently booted into
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> QuaX: do an "iwconfig"
[03:35] <Iwonder|too> why do you have the 386 headers?
[03:35] <the_hammer> ok hash here ya go add this to sources.list deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/ trunk main
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> and see if it lists a wireless device
[03:35] <QuaX> lo and eth0 both wo wireless extension
[03:36] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, after trying all headers i had i installed all the headers for the kernel i use.
[03:36] <the_hammer> sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:36] <the_hammer> then do apt-cache search kernel image
[03:36] <the_hammer> :)
[03:36] <HaSH> the_hammer, hmm my adapt already seems to be broken.
[03:36] <Iwonder|too> the 386 broke my modules,
[03:36] <QuaX> nosrednaekim, both have no wireless ext
[03:36] <HaSH> so i dont know if another repo will help
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> QuaX: have you rebooted since you installed the nvidia drivers?
[03:36] <QuaX> yes
[03:36] <the_hammer> try installing synaptic
[03:36] <the_hammer> ?
[03:37] <QuaX> i wanted to test if they work proberly
[03:37] <don_jr__> No dice on getting flash read by konqueror, how can I tell if i got the latest update or not?  I was told earlier, and did, open up edgy-backports and downloaded flash from there.....
[03:37] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, it did the same thing b4 iinstalled the 386. it dindnt affect anything
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> QuaX: do a "sudo rmmod <drivername>"
[03:37] <QuaX> i had some problems, that x doesnt come up with 3d support after a reboot
[03:37] <Iwonder|too> ok,what exactly are you doing that requires them?
[03:37] <QuaX> which driver? wlan?
[03:37] <HaSH> the_hammer, well i cant seem to find a list of sources that are actuly updated. source o matic gave me a few broken sources.
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> QuaX: there should be an intel wireless driver in there somewhere..
[03:37] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, compile a application that isnt in the repositorys
[03:38] <Iwonder|too> i was installing rt61 module when i had difficulties
[03:38] <QuaX> yes the ipw3945
[03:38] <QuaX> k i made the rmmod
[03:38] <Iwonder|too> and your app complains of a missing module?
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> of Ipw3945?
[03:38] <QuaX> yes
[03:38] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, it requires the compile of a module
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> ok... do a "sudo modprobe ipw3945"
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> we just rmeoved the module, and are reloading it... to see if ther are any errors..
[03:39] <QuaX> sh: /sbin/ipw3945d-2.6.20-13-generic: not found
[03:39] <QuaX> FATAL: Error running install command for ipw3945
[03:39] <QuaX> ah
[03:39] <QuaX> there is an error
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> ok... you must have inavertantly updated your kernel
[03:39] <pagan0ne> ok, what do i do if removing a package makes apt-get hang?
[03:40] <QuaX> hmm...
[03:40] <QuaX> damned adept :/
[03:40] <Flying_Eagle> apt-get -f install
[03:40] <Flying_Eagle> on konsole
[03:40] <Flying_Eagle> -f stands for fix
[03:40] <pagan0ne> ok
[03:40] <flaccid> archangel_: i assumed you fixed adept.
[03:40] <Flying_Eagle> fist close adept
[03:40] <Iwonder|too> hash what does uname -a give?
[03:40] <Flying_Eagle> fiRst!
[03:40] <Flying_Eagle> ;P
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> QuaX: just try reinatlling the driver in adept..
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> *installing
[03:41] <QuaX> the nvidia driver?
[03:41] <QuaX> or the wlan driver
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> the ipwthingy
[03:41] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, Linux KernelHack 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:42] <QuaX> hmm... but how? i never installed it - it has been working since i installed kubuntu
[03:42] <QuaX> didn't do anything with this driver at all
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> QuaX: well...go reinstall it anyway..
[03:43] <Iwonder|too> ok does ls -l /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic symlink to linux-headers-2.6.17-11?
[03:43] <don_jr__> I still can't get flash to work with konqueror
[03:43] <QuaX> how or what shll i install?
[03:43] <pagan0ne> Flying_Eagle: it looks like it his hanging on apt-get install -f aswell
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> QuaX: just a sec
[03:43] <QuaX> thanks
[03:44] <Flying_Eagle> pagan0ne, no errormessage?
[03:44] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/503 ...im not sure.
[03:44] <pagan0ne> Flying_Eagle: it just hangs on the text "Unpacking replacement vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-14 ..."
[03:44] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, yes it does.
[03:44] <Apollo101> iam using kubuntu. i just restored a backuped image of hdb2. at boot it says 'failed to open journal device. unknow block 0.0. ext3 journal in .... something.  and its not mounting.   what can i do? (i think the backup i made didnt supported linux partitions
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> QuaX: hmm... interesting.... there is no package for it...
[03:45] <pagan0ne> cuttently im running 2.6.20-11, i havent booted into 14 yet
[03:45] <Iwonder|too> hash make your /usr/src/linux symlink point to /linux-headers-2.6.17-11
[03:45] <QuaX> hmm... nosrednaekim it is in the kernel... maybe...
[03:45] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, ok doing it now.
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> yeah... must be...
[03:45] <QuaX> ah damned i try to reboot the newer kernel
[03:45] <QuaX> brb
[03:45] <QuaX> thx anyway
[03:45] <Flying_Eagle> pagan0ne, then do that. maybe the packages installationscript needs the right kernel
[03:45] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, same thing.
[03:45] <Iwonder|too> or thats what fixxed my issues,i dunno why its called -generic and symlinked to the non0generic
[03:46] <Flying_Eagle> i could ask uname and when uname gives the wrong kernel it doesnt know what to do, pagan0ne
[03:46] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, doesnt work saying incomplete source code
[03:46] <pagan0ne> Flying_Eagle: the reason i havent is becauses theres a issue with the 14 kernel, i havent successfully booted into it
[03:46] <Iwonder|too> hash what app?
[03:46] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, truecrypt
[03:46] <Iwonder|too> i'm using a dufferent kernel,but i'll try to compile it
[03:46] <don_jr__> konqueror is only registering using flash 4.03. I downloaded flashplayer 9.0 today but I can't get knoqueror to read/find it...any advice?
[03:46] <Iwonder|too> you have a url?
[03:47] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, yes one second
[03:47] <Iwonder|too> pm it if you are registered
[03:47] <HaSH> Iwonder|too, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/503
[03:47] <Flying_Eagle> pagan0ne, then fix this first
[03:47] <HaSH> bah
[03:48] <pagan0ne> Flying_Eagle: really didnt want to have to do that tonight, as it would require really messing with the binary nvidia crap which doesnt seem to like 14
[03:48] <pagan0ne> now i have a apt-get install process that i cant kill!
[03:49] <Flying_Eagle> pagan0ne, you know, first you gotta have a hen to make it produce you some eggs.....
[03:50] <pagan0ne> Flying_Eagle: but why would i need to install a kernel i have never run to remove a package?
[03:52] <Flying_Eagle> id say because of the packages script. but: what you might try is "dpkg -r packagename"
[03:52] <pollyo> Anyone know how I can change the settings for a program in the K menu?
[03:52] <Flying_Eagle> this should at least give you more info
[03:52] <pollyo> I want to change the settings for how the program starts.
[03:52] <bobstro> pollyo: menu editor perhaps?
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> pollyo: right click on it... then say edit item
[03:53] <pollyo> Ok.  Thank you.
[03:53] <don_jr__> is Cadega an alternative to wine or is it something completely different?
[03:54] <tulio__> how do i add windows to the grub?
[03:54] <flaccid> its an add on to wine
[03:54] <pollyo> Perfect
[03:55] <Peaker> am I the only one for whom kdesu gets stuck every once in a while?
[03:55] <soulrider> !paste
[03:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:55] <don_jr__> flaccid okay thanks.  I'm trying to get one of the programs that it says it will run to work, so I'm looking into it.
[03:56] <soulrider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14808/
[03:56] <tulio__> !grub
[03:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:58] <pollyo> I must say that I have never found anthing like this in windows.  This community is very helpful!
[03:58] <BluesKaj> !amarok
[03:58] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[03:58] <flaccid> sweet
[03:58] <flaccid> Amarok is actually for *nix, not just linux ubotu
[04:00] <pollyo> BBL
[04:00] <Jucato> flaccid: trying to talk to a bot? O.o
[04:01] <pagan0ne> ok, how do i tell apt not to try to complete a task it was told to do on a previous run?
[04:02] <flaccid> hehe yeah
[04:02] <don_jr__> which package do I need to get to run firefox on kubuntu?
[04:03] <flaccid> !firefox
[04:03] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:03] <tang^> don_jr__: firefox at a minimum
[04:03] <flaccid> don_jr__: depends on releaase, but probably firefox
[04:05] <don_jr__> okay, will give it a try
[04:09] <mrdlouisd> i had installed a terminal rdp client and cant remember the name of it
[04:09] <mrdlouisd> anyone run any?
[04:09] <flaccid> krdc / rdesktop
[04:10] <mrdlouisd> i never had any luck with that
[04:10] <flaccid> why
[04:10] <mrdlouisd> couldnt get a connection
[04:10] <Flying_Eagle> try nx
[04:10] <flaccid> that would suggest network problem
[04:10] <flaccid> nx != rdp
[04:11] <mrdlouisd> when i boot to win it works fine
[04:11] <flaccid> yeah well dif platform
[04:11] <terib> is there a way to stop certain kernel modules from being loaded?
[04:11] <don_jr__> how do I run a .sh script file?
[04:11] <terib> ./somescript.sh
[04:11] <flaccid> you might wanna try troubleshooting
[04:12] <flaccid> don_jr__: sh ./script.sh
[04:12] <mrdlouisd> im trying to find the app i used
[04:12] <Flying_Eagle> dont know much about those things, but i used nx and it just worked - and that very well
[04:12] <mrdlouisd> thanks guys
[04:12] <flaccid> Flying_Eagle: its a different protocol. he wants an rdp client.
[04:12] <don_jr__> flaccid thanks
[04:12] <flaccid> np
[04:12] <terib> grdesktop
[04:12] <Flying_Eagle> kk
[04:13] <don_jr__> I did that flaccid and it killed my terminal...lol
[04:13] <flaccid> hehe
[04:13] <terib> don_jr__, just run ./sopmescript.sh
[04:13] <Flying_Eagle> does anyone know, when the feisty-rcs shall be released?
[04:13] <terib> but of cours,e spell it right
[04:13] <donutman25> for some reason i cannot connect to the internet in kubuntu. can someone help me?
[04:13] <flaccid> krdc is the kde front end to rdesktop. no need to use gnome frontend.
[04:13] <neonlinux> hey all.. in a spot of trouble.. anyone know of a gui wifi manager?
[04:13] <terib> didn't know there was a kde rdesktop tool ;-)
[04:14] <terib> how to not have ohci-hcd load @ boot once the install is done though?
[04:14] <flaccid> !info krdc
[04:14] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 499 kB, installed size 968 kB
[04:14] <don_jr__> terib it's not 'green' like it's executable, but I'll give it a shot.
[04:14] <flaccid> i like it
[04:14] <terib> don_jr__, then chmod 755 it
[04:15] <terib> !info stop module loading @ boot
[04:15] <ubotu> Package stop does not exist in edgy
[04:15] <terib> pffft
[04:15] <flaccid> it will require +x perms as well and of course correct header
[04:15] <terib> 755 is adequate for a shell script
[04:15] <terib> <-bash ho
[04:16] <flaccid> it can be anything readable, but it needs +x too
[04:16] <don_jr__> terib thanks, that did it
[04:16] <terib> thats what the 7 is for ;-)
[04:16] <flaccid> and !#/bin/sh header on first line of file
[04:16] <Flying_Eagle> terib, is it in the /etc/rc?.d/-directories? then (re)move the symlinks which start with "S"
[04:16] <terib> #1/bin/bash
[04:16] <terib> pfft
[04:16] <terib> #!
[04:16] <flaccid> 7 is read, write and execute
[04:16] <terib> yeah well, most ppl want to be able to edit thewir script to fix it when it does execute ptroper ;-)
[04:17] <terib> sooooo
[04:17] <hagabaka> what does "Beta! c" mean?
[04:17] <terib> how do i stop ohci-hcd for getting auto loaded @ boot
[04:17] <don_jr__> it's running the script flawlessly now
[04:17] <flaccid> ?
[04:17] <terib> hagabaka it's really REALLY broken
[04:17] <hagabaka> oh
[04:17] <euther> donutman25: can you give more specifics ?
[04:18] <soulrider> !vmware > soulrider
[04:18] <hagabaka> does "c" mean the third beta?
[04:18] <terib> the ohci-hcd driver mosnkey with the uhci-hcd and ehci-hcd that my ahrdware uses, and if ohci-hcd load @ boot then my keyboard and mouse don't work
[04:18] <Black_Cat> hagabaka: sources in "C" language maybe :)
[04:19] <don_jr__> Arrrgh!!  firefox doesn't recognize the updated version of flashplayer either....
[04:19] <terib> at least you can use your pc when it's done booting
[04:20] <donutman25> euther: i have kubuntu up and running and i have my router dhcp enabled but kubuntu cannot/willnot get an ip address
[04:20] <terib> kick it
[04:20] <terib> hard
[04:20] <terib> twice
[04:21] <donutman25> euther: btw my internet work well with my xandros installation on my other pc
[04:21] <pollyo> Hello
[04:22] <pollyo> I was thinking about getting a domain name from one of the services like dyndns.  Does anyone use a service?
[04:22] <Flying_Eagle> terib, maybe /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist helps?
[04:22] <terib> i use dyndns
[04:22] <pollyo> terib: I notice it discussess two free services.
[04:22] <terib> Flying_Eagle, will look into it, thanx
[04:22] <pollyo> terib: Do you know anythign about them?
[04:22] <terib> pollyo http://teri.kicks-ass.org
[04:22] <benji> hi, linux noob here. after a driver for my winfast dtv 200h tv tuner
[04:22] <pagan0ne> how do i keep adept from resuming a action it was doing?
[04:23] <terib> thats my web server on this doze machine that uyses dyndns so i don't have to know my ip constantly
[04:23] <donutman25> euther: oh and for some reason i cannot get administrator access to change my network setttings
[04:23] <pollyo> terib: Is that a free service?
[04:23] <flaccid> dyndns.org
[04:24] <terib> pollyo yeah, /me's too poor to pay for domain name services ;-)
[04:24] <pollyo> terib: Do I use Dynamic if my ip changes?
[04:24] <terib> yeah
[04:24] <pollyo> terib: Ok.  Was it easy to setup with Kubuntu?
[04:24] <Iwonder|too> does dyndns have a linux client?
[04:24] <euther> donutman25: wired or wireless ?
[04:24] <donutman25> euther: wired
[04:25] <terib> anytime your ip changes, you'll ahve to go back and change it with dyndns, but it's almsot as easy as jsut loggin into the website, there are dyndns.org updaters i think that'll inform dynds of your ip @ everyboot
[04:25] <Jucato> !info dyndns
[04:25] <ubotu> Package dyndns does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:25] <Iwonder|too> sudo ifconfig
[04:25] <Jucato> !info dyndns-client
[04:25] <ubotu> Package dyndns-client does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:25] <BluesKaj> !kde
[04:25] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[04:25] <terib> pollyo apache is ahrder then setting up dyndns ;-)
[04:25] <Iwonder|too> pollyo: check with your isp,i got a static ip for $5 extra
[04:26] <flaccid> !ddclient
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ddclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <terib> $5 wasted ;-)
[04:26] <flaccid> !info ddclient
[04:26] <ubotu> ddclient: Update dynamic IP address at DynDNS.org. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.6.7-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 46 kB, installed size 272 kB
[04:26] <flaccid> there it is
[04:26] <terib> pollyo, if it's done right, your pc doesn't even need to knbow anyhting about dyndns
[04:26] <Iwonder|too> not wasted on an entire linux network,i can go away for a month and my server is still accessable
[04:27] <terib> my ip has only changed once in 6 months, unless i change the nic it's connected to, all my nic's give me diff ip's from my isp ;-)
[04:27] <euther> donutman25: does this occur after a suspend/resume cycle ?
[04:27] <pollyo> terib: I'll have to manually change my ip address at DynDNS though right?
[04:27] <benji> !dtv 200
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dtv 200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <terib> pollyo, not if you use ddclient
[04:27] <benji> !winfast driver
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winfast driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <flaccid> pollyo: yeah use ddclient thats what its for
[04:27] <pollyo> terib: ok
[04:28] <pollyo> flaccid: Ok.  ddclient is in the repos?
[04:28] <terib> benji, have you tried google.con/linux
[04:28] <flaccid> benji: see if tvtime works for your card or look up the hcl
[04:28] <Iwonder|too> but i also have a site for work with a registered domain
[04:28] <donutman25> euther: I have never suspended/resumed it. I only shutdown and restart
[04:28] <flaccid> its in universe
[04:28] <pollyo> Ok
[04:29] <terib> this l,ivecd in vmware is stupid slow
[04:29] <benji> !leadtek
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about leadtek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <euther> donutman25: what OS versions has the router worked well with ?
[04:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i have a question. I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and when I get to supported resolutions, I can't select the other resolutions I can run
[04:31] <Admiral_Chicago> how can I select one?
[04:32] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: navigate to the resolution (using cursor keys) and press space to check/uncheck them
[04:32] <benji> !kdetv
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdetv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <donutman25> Windows 98,2000,XP, Symphony OS, and Xandros OS
[04:32] <donutman25> euther: Windows 98,2000,XP, Symphony OS, and Xandros OS
[04:32] <flaccid> benji: what you trying to do
[04:32] <terib> benji !tvtime :-P
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks Jucato!
[04:33] <benji> lol
[04:33] <benji> benji wants to watch television :P
[04:33] <flaccid> did you read my messages?
[04:33] <euther> donutman25: are you comfortable filing a report at bugs.ubuntu.com ?
[04:33] <terib> do u know what cipset your ctuner uses?
[04:33] <benji> dont know where to start with getting my tuner going
[04:34] <terib> well, first, try tvtime
[04:34] <flaccid> [12:31]  <flaccid> benji: see if tvtime works for your card or look up the hcl
[04:34] <pollyo> I see this client notes a few different services.  Anyone know the major difference between them?
[04:34] <terib> free, or not free
[04:34] <benji> okies
[04:34] <flaccid> pollyo: which client?
[04:35] <pollyo> flaccid: ddclient
[04:35] <Admiral_Chicago> trying nov
[04:35] <Admiral_Chicago> now
[04:35] <flaccid> pollyo: read http://dyndns.org
[04:35] <donutman25> euther: sure... This isn't the first variation of linux that i have exprienced this issue with. It has also occured with knoppix
[04:35] <flaccid> benji: also see http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/other.html#AEN16431
[04:36] <flaccid> donutman25: what issue
[04:36] <benji> flaccid: will do
[04:36] <donutman25> flaccid: internet not working
[04:36] <flaccid> donutman25: why is it not working
[04:37] <flaccid> there is no conclusion yet
[04:37] <flaccid> can't make the link to another OS without a conclusion
[04:37] <donutman25> flaccid: i have no idea
[04:37] <flaccid> exactly
[04:37] <flaccid> is it your net not working?
[04:38] <pagan0ne> is there any way to get apt to remove a package from the database w/o removing it from the system?
[04:38] <donutman25> yes
[04:38] <flaccid> pagan0ne: why would you want to do that
[04:39] <pagan0ne> flaccid: its a LONG story, just write it off as im intentionally trying to hose my system
[04:39] <flaccid> pagan0ne: no
[04:39] <flaccid> donutman25: what interface is your ethernet device?
[04:40] <pagan0ne> flaccid: then is there any way to manually tinker with the database to make apt beleave it never existed?
[04:40] <donutman25> flaccid: eth0... not really sure what you mean
[04:40] <flaccid> pagan0ne: dont know. i'm sure its hackable.
[04:40] <flaccid> donutman25: pastebin output of sudo dhclient eth0
[04:40] <pagan0ne> flaccid: do you know where the database is located by default?
[04:41] <flaccid> pagan0ne: i dont sorry. try ##linux its not something to discuss in this channel
[04:41] <pagan0ne> flaccid: thanks
[04:41] <flaccid> np
[04:41] <donutman25> flaccid: will do! hav to restart to do it
[04:42] <flaccid> why would you need to restart to run a command
[04:42] <tang^> probably dual booting
[04:43] <flaccid> ah true
[04:43] <flaccid> but then the puter would have no net
[04:43] <flaccid> hectic
[04:44] <fignew> apt is more of a topic in #kubuntu than in ##linux :/
[04:45] <se7en> does dyndns account expire after 30 days?
[04:45] <flaccid> fignew: not hacking it no.
[04:45] <flaccid> se7en: read the http://dyndns.org site
[04:45] <fignew> flaccid: hacking? where?
[04:45] <Iwonder|too> editing?
[04:46] <flaccid> fignew: thats what pagan0ne wants to do
[04:46] <fignew> flaccid: and?
[04:46] <Iwonder|too> he wants to edit the apt database,thats  deb discussion
[04:46] <pollyo> Anyone here setup ddclient?  When they ask for the interface wish is used for using dynamic DNS service are they asking for the card?
[04:47] <pollyo> Like ath0?
[04:47] <flaccid> i wouldn't call what he wants to do editing the apt database
[04:47] <Iwonder|too> he wants to remove an entry
[04:47] <flaccid> pollyo: probably the card that has gateway to net
[04:47] <pollyo> flaccid: How long does it take for the domain name to work?
[04:47] <fignew> pagan0ne: I'd recommend #debian ,  they know what they're doing.
[04:47] <pollyo> flaccid: Will I know in a few minuts, hours, or days?
[04:48] <Iwonder|too> pollyo:  if it works like the windows client it might fail trying to retrieve ip,if it does it from ifconfig
[04:48] <Dell190> Has anyone ever used the "Super GRUB Disk" ??
[04:48] <flaccid> Iwonder|too: yes and not remove the package. not a good practice.
[04:48] <fignew> flaccid: not a good practice != cracking
[04:48] <flaccid> i never said cracking
[04:48] <Iwonder|too> i agree its a bad practice
[04:48] <flaccid> cracking involves cryptography
[04:48] <fignew> flaccid: hardly
[04:48] <BluesKaj> yes Dell190, I've used it successfully to restore the windows mbr
[04:48] <Iwonder|too> but for the knowledge i support him asking
[04:49] <flaccid> hardly?
[04:49] <fignew> uh huh
[04:49] <Dell190> Ok, Thankx BluesKaj
[04:49] <flaccid> fignew: you are right de facto definition extends to more than just crypto
[04:49] <fignew> Linus Torvalds is a hacker... LIEE+ K1d6 is a cracker :)
[04:49] <BluesKaj> it works , quite straight forward Dell190
[04:49] <Estagus_> hi all
[04:49] <Estagus_> why in kontrolcenter I can not change my user icon? it say that admin forbids me to change it. I'm admin of it comp
[04:50] <flaccid> still, what does any of this have to do with helping people with problems
[04:50] <Dell190> BluesKaj: Thats awesome, i need it to fix Grub, and it sounds just like the thing i would need
[04:50] <fignew> flaccid: I dunno, he had a problem, and you told him to get lost :(
[04:50] <Iwonder|too> Estagus_: click adminastrator mode at the bottom of page
[04:50] <BluesKaj> yup , give it a try Dell190
[04:51] <flaccid> fignew: thats incorrect. he never cited a problem and i never told him to get lost...
[04:51] <Black_Cat> Estagus_: System Settings - Administration - User & Groups, should help.
[04:51] <Estagus_> Iwonder|too: there no such button
[04:51] <flaccid> i came here to help not argue upon such trivial topics
[04:51] <Estagus_> 1 sec
 is there any way to get apt to remove a package from the database w/o removing it from the system? ........ agreed, no need to argue :)
[04:52] <Iwonder|too> Estagus_:  at bottom next to OK
[04:52] <flaccid> ok cool
[04:53] <archangel_> flaccid: adept not fixed
[04:53] <terib> so how do i make my usb keyboard work, remove the usbkbd from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?
[04:53] <nonuda> damn..kubuntu can run on my p200mmx 64 ram and 2 gb hdd !! :)
[04:53] <pagan0ne> hey stop slinging mud over my question... im still here you know
[04:53] <terib> nonuda, i've put gentoo on a p133 with 16m ram
[04:54] <Iwonder|too> does your usb keyboard work in grub?
[04:54] <Black_Cat> Iwonder|too: just like Estagus_ said, there is no such button in "User Profile" settings panel.
[04:54] <terib> Iwonder|too yea
[04:54] <terib> well
[04:54] <terib> dunno actually
[04:54] <nonuda> terib: nice..
[04:54] <terib> mouse works when i'm done booting, keyboard doesn't
[04:55] <flaccid> archangel_: need more help?
[04:55] <terib> nonuda, initial isntall was via debian in gentoo's future swap cause the machine didn't have enough ram to boot the ramdisk from the cd
[04:55] <archangel_> fraid so
[04:55] <fignew> terib: usb kbd?
[04:55] <Iwonder|too> terib: does your bios support usb?
[04:55] <fignew> nm
[04:55] <archangel_> I think it might be easier to reinstall than to fix everything, what do you think?
[04:56] <flaccid> archangel_: try this sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adept && kdesu adept_updater
[04:56] <flaccid> archangel_: negative
[04:56] <flaccid> i'm sure we'll fix it
[04:56] <archangel_> ok
[04:56] <Cosmo_> anytime I install anything using synaptic package manager it attemps to install the VMware player and fails then whenever I restart I have to reinstall the NVIDIA driver to be able to boot into kubuntu. How can I fix this?
[04:56] <terib> Iwonder|too, yeah, I have some trouble with my hardware, if uhci-hcd loads, then none of my usb devices work at all, my nforce2 board uses ohci-hcd and ehci-hcd for it's usb
[04:56] <pollyo> How can I tell if my new dyndns is working from outside my network?
[04:57] <terib> pollyo give us a name to pound on with our fast connections ;-)
[04:57] <pollyo> lol
[04:57] <pollyo> ok
[04:57] <terib> or, simply ping the hostname
[04:57] <pollyo> pollyo.gotdns.com
[04:57] <flaccid> pollyo.gotdns.com has address 192.168.1.101
[04:58] <DroolingSheep> you need to point it to your public IP
[04:58] <flaccid> updating it with the private IP and not the external WAN one
[04:58] <Iwonder|too> terib: have you looked in your rc directory and changed the S<whatever> to K<whatever> to prevent it from l,oading?
[04:58] <pollyo> Hmmm...
[04:58] <Iwonder|too> Estagus_: user profile?where are you looking?
[04:58] <pollyo> Ok.  I'm lost.
[04:58] <terib> Iwonder|too, disabling an whole init script during boot is gonna leave me quit lacking
[04:58] <Estagus_> kontrol center
[04:58] <pollyo> Is that something I have to fix in ddclient?
[04:59] <terib> pollyo 192.168.* are reserved for private home or office use
[04:59] <flaccid> pollyo: where is your modem plugged in
[04:59] <Iwonder|too> kontrol center,what area?
[04:59] <pollyo> terib: Yes.  I have that much.
[04:59] <Flying_Eagle> terib, i repeat: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:59] <pollyo> flaccid: A router.
[04:59] <flaccid> thats probably the problem
[04:59] <pollyo> flaccid: Do I have to log into my router and change something?
[04:59] <terib> Flying_Eagle, did that, mouse works, keyboard doesn't
[04:59] <benji> [collapse] 
[04:59] <chemicalvamp> sudo module-assistant prepare,update = module-assistanr: command not found.. (whats the kde equivalent?
[04:59] <Flying_Eagle> kk
[05:00] <flaccid> pollyo: no. you need to see if the ddclient can get the IP from your router or work it by going to an external service
[05:00] <archangel_> flaccid: wow
[05:00] <flaccid> i can't remember what it can and can't do
[05:00] <nonuda> pollyo: can u make me a shutdown script? i want to put it in a panel or desktop, when i want to shut it down i just click on it...
[05:00] <Iwonder|too> kontrol center,login manager,users,,,the icon?
[05:00] <archangel_> flaccid: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[05:01] <Flying_Eagle> terib, what about the hotplug-services? maybe udev loads the module. so deleting the keyboard there could help
[05:01] <terib> Flying_Eagle, it had usbmouse and usbkbd blacklisted as well, u think if i remove/comment out the usbkbd that that would get the keyboard workin?
[05:01] <chemicalvamp> nonuda make a shortcut, with the command sudo shutdown
[05:01] <flaccid> archangel_: pastebin the whole output
[05:01] <Flying_Eagle> terib, maybe? i hadnt any issues like that...
[05:01] <acamargob> hello
[05:01] <nonuda> chemicalvamp: just that?
[05:01] <Black_Cat> Iwonder|too: Security & Privacy -> Password & User Account
[05:02] <Estagus_> Iwonder|too: in kontrol center in user profile
[05:02] <chemicalvamp> nonuda simple eh
[05:02] <nonuda> chemicalvamp: yup...try it now
[05:02] <archangel_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14812/
[05:02] <Black_Cat> Estagus_: your're probably talking about System Settings, it's not the Control Centre, another hierarchy and names.
[05:02] <Estagus_> Iwonder|too: some time before I can do it in user profile
[05:02] <chemicalvamp> gnome=module-assistant.... kde=???
[05:03] <Iwonder|too> my bad i misunderstood him,there is no admionastrator button in mine either,but none needed if i am changing "my" icon
[05:03] <terib> welp, here we go again then
[05:03] <archangel_> flaccid: adept now asking if I want to upgrade to a newer version of Kubuntu
[05:04] <chemicalvamp> Package module-assistant is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:04] <Estagus_> Iwonder|too: yes. I try to change _my_ user icon in user profile (where I can change pass, email and so on)
[05:04] <acamargob> i have kubuntu installed on an usb external hdd and am able to boot to it from my laptop, however the bios form my desktop doesnt have any usb device or external hdd boot option... is there a way to partialy boot from a cd... and redirect the boot to the hdd?
[05:04] <Iwonder|too> really odd Estagus_
[05:05] <flaccid> archangel_: looking
[05:05] <Black_Cat> Estagus_: you can easily change it in User & Groups anyway.
[05:05] <Iwonder|too> acamargob: how about pit a bootloader on a floppy?
[05:05] <Black_Cat> Estagus_: just pick your login ID from drop-down menu out there.
[05:06] <Estagus_> Iwonder|too: yes, but I can't see it in profile, near located com do it fine
[05:06] <Estagus_> my debian cant change this too
[05:06] <flaccid> archangel_: weird. what does dpkg -l
[05:06] <flaccid> archangel_: weird. what does dpkg -l | grep adept
[05:06] <flaccid> return
[05:07] <terib> that didn't work
[05:07] <terib> NEXT!
[05:08] <Iwonder|too> terib: what did you say loads and kills it?
[05:08] <archangel_> flaccid: which command or both?
[05:08] <terib> Iwonder|too, if uhci-hcd loads, none of my usb devices will work after booting
[05:08] <flaccid>  dpkg -l | grep adept
[05:08] <Black_Cat> Estagus_: oh-oh, I'm sorry, Login Manager, not User & Groups
[05:09] <archangel_> flaccid: should I upgrade? adept says "click here if you wish to upgrade"
[05:09] <Estagus_> I know it :)
[05:09] <Estagus_> I found solution
[05:09] <Estagus_> I think it's a bug
[05:09] <flaccid> archangel_: no not at this stage. i'm not sure why its asking you for that if you ran update.
[05:09] <flaccid> you are probably talking about the notifier
[05:09] <Black_Cat> good 4 u :)
[05:09] <flaccid> which means its working..
[05:09] <flaccid> so you choice if you wanna upgrade now..
[05:10] <archangel_> I want the right thing
[05:10] <nonuda_> chemicalvamp: i was create launcher and in the command line i type sudo shutdown, but when i double click it nothing happen
[05:10] <flaccid> what is 'the right thing'
[05:10] <Estagus_> it allow to change it ONLY IF in login manager I set image source "users" (don't know english name, russian locale)
[05:11] <Estagus_> I think it MUST allow with modes "admin, users"   and "users, admin" too
[05:11] <archangel_> whatever I should do that you think would be the right thing to do
[05:12] <acamargob> that seems like a good idea... is there a bootloader you would recommend me?
[05:12] <archangel_> by the way I never got my prompt back in terminal, what do I do? close out and reopen?
[05:12] <terib> try typing reset
[05:12] <flaccid> archangel_: ctrl+c in terminal
[05:12] <flaccid> then goto alt+f2 and run adept_updater
[05:12] <archangel_> ahh
[05:12] <archangel_> :o)
[05:12] <chemicalvamp> nonuda_ try sudo shutoff, or turn off (i know restart is sudo reboot)
[05:13] <flaccid> then if you wanna update packages, thats your choice
[05:13] <flaccid> or run adept and update/install what you want
[05:13] <archangel_> I did the package thing
[05:13] <archangel_> ton of crap came up
[05:13] <terib> wtf, no rxvt
[05:14] <Iwonder|too> shutdown now
[05:14] <Iwonder|too> or halt
[05:14] <terib> shutdown -h now
[05:14] <nonuda_> chemicalvamp: same thing, nothing happen, i tried sudo halt, sudo restart, sudo reboot
[05:14] <regeya> terib, you know what to do if you want to have rxvt :->
[05:14] <flaccid> archangel_: that crap is probably the packages that can be upgraded..
[05:14] <Iwonder|too> nonuda: typw which halt
[05:15] <terib> regeya, sounds amuanlish ;-) but i got bigger fish to fry, no need installing a whole lot of anyhitng if i can't use it outside vmware
[05:15] <terib> *manualish
[05:15] <archangel_> flaccid: wow, its alot
[05:15] <chemicalvamp> nonuda_ try shutdown now, shutdown -h now
[05:15] <regeya> gah.  one of my old linux boxes I ran x out of stubbornness, because I used window maker, sometimes fsviewer.app, and a lot of rxvt's
[05:15] <Iwonder|too> you may need full path,,,/sbin/halt
[05:15] <chemicalvamp> gnome=module-assistant.... kde=???
[05:15] <flaccid> archangel_: your system looked pretty outdated..
[05:15] <terib> <-fluxbox ho
[05:16] <terib> and why no mc either, whats up with that
[05:16] <archangel_> flaccid: all I do sice I have had linux (dapper was brand new) is just update with adept
[05:17] <nonuda_> chemicalvamp: same..nothing happen, it seem that i must enable it to execute, coz it seems that it didn't execute the command i give
[05:17] <karl> I have installed an ubuntu server (without Gnome, text boot only) and when I boot it I get a message "Starting Up..." rather than showing me all the things that is loading while it is booting. How do I disable this message or enable it to show me everything as it loads, as per normal linux?
[05:17] <Iwonder|too> nonuda: are you creating an icon ?
[05:17] <nonuda_> chemicalvamp: sudo halt in terminal work...
 Package module does not exist in edgy... whats the edgy equivalent?
[05:17] <flaccid> archangel_: cool.
[05:17] <terib> karl, edit grub, change silent to verbose
[05:17] <karl> thanks a bunch terib
[05:18] <pollyo> Ok.  I think I might have it.
[05:18] <nonuda_> yes...i create a new launcher and seti it up with an icon
[05:18] <pollyo> Question is will I need to do port forwarding next?
[05:18] <chemicalvamp> nonuda_ then whats wrong is, how your making your file
[05:18] <pollyo> pollyo.gotdns.com
[05:18] <archangel_> flaccid: so what do I do now?
[05:18] <Iwonder|too> can you right click,properties set executable?
[05:18] <karl> terib: do you remember the key to hit so I can edit grub at boot time?
[05:18] <terib> karl, errr, change quiet to verbose
[05:18] <Dell190> Anyone have any last ideas, Before i go back to full windows
[05:18] <flaccid> archangel_: upgrade the packages or don't. its your choice..
[05:18] <terib> 'e'
[05:18] <Iwonder|too> e=edit
[05:18] <karl> thx
[05:18] <bobstro> sorry Dell190, on what?
[05:18] <nonuda_> chemicalvamp: ahhh..ok then what should i do to make the right file..btw i'm in ubuntu desktio
[05:18] <archangel_> I'm all for upgrading
[05:19] <terib> i'm all for jsut getting it to work period
[05:19] <Dell190> i had to reinstall windows, and now, no matter what i do..  grub will not come back at all
[05:19] <flaccid> archangel_: go for it. i'm on a dapper box atm for which i keep up to date
[05:19] <archangel_> do I click next on the upgrade wizard?
[05:19] <chemicalvamp> nonuda_ then why are you in a kde help zone if you use gnome?
[05:19] <terib> it can be 40yo for all i care, if it works
[05:19] <Iwonder|too> Dell190: you must reinstall grub
[05:19] <Dell190> how?
[05:19] <flaccid> archangel_: just to be sure can you show me a screenshot of the screen you are at?
[05:19] <nonuda_> |wonder|too, i have set its ptoperty to executable
[05:19] <archangel_> yes
[05:19] <nonuda_> chemicalvamp: my real system is kubuntu.. ;)
[05:20] <Iwonder|too> ok is your icon the command or a link to a script?
[05:20] <terib> uggg, these update mirrors are SLOW
[05:21] <vbgunz> Dell190: insert the livecd and look at the bottom. I believe you'll see a list (F1, F2), one of them is advanced or something similar, in it should be an option to reinstall Grub or resuce system, not sure :(
[05:21] <Iwonder|too> Dell190: try booting to livecd and using adept reinstall grub
[05:21] <chemicalvamp> nonuda_ in kde i would right click desktop, new-> link to application, and in applicaion screen ide, put sudo hult in command line
[05:21] <vbgunz> Dell190: *rescue, sorry
[05:21] <nonuda_> |wonder|too, my icon is the command
[05:21] <bobstro> Dell190: there's a lot out there like http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/, but supergrub is supposed to be good.
[05:22] <terib> g00tgawdtagranny
[05:22] <archangel_> where do I send it flaccid
[05:22] <bobstro> (you can boot from cd to do same)
 Package module does not exist in edgy... whats the edgy equivalent?
[05:22] <Dell190> Bobstro: i just tried Super Grub to no avail
[05:22] <nonuda_> chemicalvamp: same thing in gnome i guess..launher is a shortcut link
[05:22] <cheeseboy>  i installed kubuntu in vmware to partition can someone help me get it to boot
[05:22] <Iwonder|too> command must be run by root i
[05:22] <terib> paranoid
[05:22] <Dell190> vbgunz: ok i will try that
[05:22] <flaccid> archangel_: to me via dcc or put it up on a website
[05:23] <chemicalvamp> cheeseboy how far did you get it now?
[05:23] <terib> http://imageshack.us/
[05:23] <archangel_> dcc?
[05:23] <terib> use taht link archangel_
[05:23] <Iwonder|too> nonuda: are you using kde?
[05:23] <archangel_> wont let me
[05:23] <chemicalvamp> hes using gnome
[05:23] <nonuda_> |wonder|too, right now i'm in gnome session
[05:23] <vbgunz> Dell190: good luck
[05:23] <flaccid> archangel_: can you email it to me? i wanna make sure you are not doing a dist-upgrade
[05:24] <archangel_> yes
[05:24] <flaccid> imageshack.us looks like a better option
[05:24] <terib> i'm upgrading 170 packages on a system i raelly can't even use O_o
[05:24] <flaccid> archangel_: pls put it up on imageshack
[05:24] <flaccid> thanks terib
[05:24] <terib> imageshack kicks the proverbial ass
[05:24] <flaccid> i never knew about it!
[05:25] <terib> u been mission out ;-)
[05:25] <terib> *missin
[05:25] <nonuda_> chemicalvamp: as u wish i will change my session back to kde...
[05:25] <flaccid> i have bigtime
[05:25] <cheeseboy>  chemicalvamp?
[05:25] <archangel_> how about photobucket?
[05:25] <chemicalvamp> huh
[05:25] <archangel_> I am already with them
[05:26] <cheeseboy> what you mean how far?
[05:26] <terib> photobucket'll work too
[05:26] <chemicalvamp> what do you have done? you have vmware installed.. you have made the drive image file? you have booted the kubuntu cd on the emulated hdd?
[05:27] <terib> who's palyin in vmware
[05:27] <cheeseboy> chemicalvamp ive gt vmware a made a partion installed kubuntu to that partion
[05:28] <terib> cheeseboy, physical drive partition?
[05:28] <bobstro> terib: i use vmware.
[05:28] <cheeseboy> yes
[05:28] <flaccid> archangel_: anything i can view on
[05:28] <terib> cheeseboy high five, thats the only palce kubuntu'll run for me atm ;-)
[05:28] <terib> bobstro cool
[05:29] <bobstro> terib: i *had* ubuntu going in vmware, dapper methinks.
[05:29] <cheeseboy> but because i made only one partion then partioned it in vmware will it not work?
[05:29] <chemicalvamp> i forgot the exact command.. cuz i just made a shortcut of it
[05:29] <terib> dapper? that anyhting like pebcak
[05:29] <nonuda_> chemicalvamp: didnot work either in kde..
[05:29] <bobstro> terib: er... what?
[05:29] <terib> cheeseboy, is shouldn't 'have' to have a swap partition, but it would surely help
[05:30] <bobstro> terib: you didn't like dapper?
[05:30] <terib> bobstro pebcak = problem exists between chair and keyboard
[05:30] <terib> wtf is dapper? ;-)
[05:30] <bobstro> terib: yes, i know but it still doesn't make sense.
[05:30] <bobstro> er... as in drake?
[05:30] <bobstro> awkward silence
[05:30] <bobstro> so you say i've got the pebcak? :)
[05:31] <chemicalvamp> nonuda_ ide try it out, and figure out what you need to do.. but im sitting here WAITING for anybody at all to tell me what kde application = the gnome application module-assistant and i cant just stop right now, cuz if i do, xserver wont load up again
[05:31] <terib> no, i'm saying i dunno wtf a dapper is
[05:31] <Iwonder|too> silly question,i can shutdown as a regular user,maybe your groups are fried?
[05:31] <bobstro> exactly
[05:31] <Black_Cat> terib: kubuntu is dapper drake :) 6.06 at least
[05:31] <terib> oh, kinda like the slutty hedgehog ;-)
[05:32] <Iwonder|too> chemicalvamp: i know of none,lsmod,rmmod,modprobe,depmod -a
[05:32] <bobstro> sheesh
[05:32] <bobstro> cheeseboy: you told it to use a physical partition?
[05:32] <terible> :-P
[05:32] <archangel_> flaccid: http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/archangel757/desktop.jpg
[05:32] <pollyo> Can someone check pollyo.gotdns.com for me?
[05:33] <chemicalvamp> i need a way to build my video drivers kernel
[05:33] <nonuda_> chemicalvamp: i was checking the properties of the launcher link i create in gnome and Link Apllication in kde, its very same...
[05:33] <terible> no work pollyo, or your getting pounded on by everyone ;-)
[05:33] <bobstro> pollyo: it resolves but no web page if that's what you mean.
[05:33] <archangel_> got to go to bed soon
[05:33] <terible> timed out here
[05:33] <archangel_> in a daze
[05:33] <Iwonder|too> chemicalvamp: why not use the gnome app other than wasting space with deps?'
[05:33] <chemicalvamp> nonuda_ try a shortcut with "sudo reboot" in the command line
[05:34] <nonuda_> chemicalvamp: i believe if we sudo halt or sudo shutdown -h now in terminal it will ask for password, how do i set the password in the command line?
[05:34] <philphoto> having difficulties with my comp recognizinng my scanners.  any help?
[05:34] <pollyo> What ports would I have to forward 80 and 8080?
[05:34] <terible> just pull the plug for cryin out loud
[05:34] <pgraves> Anyone know the disadvantages of using a FAT32 partition for data within Linux as opposed to a EXT2 or EXT3 partition?
[05:34] <bobstro> pollyo: for a web server?
[05:34] <terible> pollyo, just 80, but you isp may actually block or filter those
[05:34] <cheeseboy> bobstro yes but only 1 which i partioned in vmware
[05:35] <Iwonder|too> nonuda_: are you sure sudo is needed?
[05:35] <bobstro> pgraves: portability with windows systems, but it has drawbacks.
[05:35] <flaccid> pollyo.gotdns.com has address 68.81.43.126
[05:35] <Black_Cat> pgraves: need to defrag, i suppose
[05:35] <trpr> pgraves: just the disadvantages associated w/ fat in general. its performance in linux is adaquate
[05:35] <bobstro> pgraves: a lot of annoyances though.
[05:35] <Iwonder|too> you could chmod 0777 /sbin/shutdown
[05:35] <flaccid> oh already checked that soz
[05:35] <nonuda_> |wonder|too, not sure..but i have follow what chemicalvamp have said
[05:35] <flaccid> pgraves: windows can access it. whereis windows can't access ext* parts
[05:35] <Black_Cat> pgraves: and you can't set file permissions within it, i think
[05:35] <pollyo> Oh.. Wait... Let me check my guarddog settings.
[05:35] <chemicalvamp> Iwonder|too cuz i have no way of installing it
[05:35] <bobstro> pgraves: what are you trying to do, share disk btw windows & linux or?
[05:36] <terible> windows can access ext2 and ext3 partitions
[05:36] <Iwonder|too> nonuda_: in console simply type reboot,see what it says
[05:36] <archangel_> get the link? flaccid
[05:36] <terible> there is a native driver for explorer (buggy as shit imo) and explore2fs
[05:36] <Dell190> vbgunz: Still no work
[05:36] <bobstro> i2fs works pretty well.
[05:36] <pollyo> What windows can write to the viruses can write to as well.
[05:36] <meo_> I can't get my comp to regognize my other internal HD. When I plug it in and restart, Kubuntu won't start. When I unplug it and restart, everything works fine.
[05:36] <Iwonder|too> chemicalvamp: why,lack of net?
[05:36] <flaccid> archangel_: yeah i think thats asking if you wan to do a dist-upgrade to new point version/kernel of ubuntu. what does lsb_release -a say as your version?
[05:36] <nonuda_> |wonder|too, it said "need to be root"
[05:37] <philphoto> my comp will not recognize my two scanners, but when I used edgy, they worked fine
[05:37] <pollyo> I haven't seen a ext2/3 driver for windows that will work with permissions.
[05:37] <flaccid> terible: can it?
[05:37] <pollyo> If you know one let me know.
[05:37] <terible> pollyo ppl worry too much about viri, stay outta da porn and you won't get those ;-)
[05:37] <bobstro> pollyo: no, not with ntfs permissions.
[05:37] <flaccid> terible: it has never for me
[05:37] <trpr> terible: yeah. i agree. every time i use my external hdd in linux after it has been written to from that driver, there are errors that need fixing.
[05:37] <Iwonder|too> nonuda_: sudo chmod 0777 /sbin/reboot
[05:37] <chemicalvamp> Iwonder|too not in adept, and i cant apt get it...
[05:37] <pgraves> I am building a File server.... or rather, I have already built a file server... it is going to have 2 hard drives mirrored via a linux software raid.... I have had some issues with linux and I got to thinking that maybe my OS & my data should be on separate hard drives
[05:37] <Iwonder|too> then try as user
[05:37] <Dell190> does Kubuntu have like a Rescue Disk?
[05:37] <bobstro> Dell190: the install cd, yes.
[05:37] <terible> Dell190 type rescue @ the boot prompt oon the cd
[05:37] <chemicalvamp> Iwonder|too Package module-assistant is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:38] <Dell190> Ok
[05:38] <nonuda_> |wonder|too, if i type sudo reboot, it will ask for password and the box will reboot normally, what chmod 077 /sbin/reboot?
[05:38] <bobstro> Dell190: did you try those suggestions on the forum archive?
[05:38] <terible> how bout someone go bitch slap the update mirrors, 130k/s is for the birds
[05:38] <flaccid> terible: you have to install something on win for ext support?
[05:38] <archangel_> did you get the link flaccid
[05:39] <flaccid> archangel_: [13:40]  <flaccid> archangel_: yeah i think thats asking if you wan to do a dist-upgrade to new point version/kernel of ubuntu. what does lsb_release -a say as your version?
[05:39] <meo_> I can't get my comp to regognize my other internal HD. When I plug it in and restart, Kubuntu won't start. When I unplug it and restart, everything works fine.
[05:39] <terible> flaccid, explore2fs give you read access to ext2|3 drives, and there is a driver that works with explorer to give you r/w access, but it's bugged imo
[05:39] <archangel_> still dapper
[05:39] <archangel_> 6.06
[05:39] <chemicalvamp> E: Package module-assistant has no installation candidate
[05:40] <flaccid> terible: ah so not a good choice anyway and not native
[05:40] <archangel_> 6.06.1
[05:40] <philphoto> anyone have any problems running scanners using feisty?
[05:40] <flaccid> archangel_: it says 6.06.1 ?
[05:40] <archangel_> yes
[05:40] <dthacker> meo_: are they IDE drives?
[05:40] <archangel_> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[05:41] <archangel_> Release:        6.06
[05:41] <flaccid> archangel_: maybe its asking you to upgrade to edgy, but i doubt it
[05:41] <Iwonder|too> module-assistant - tool to make module package creation easier
[05:41] <flaccid> archangel_: what does uname -a return
[05:41] <pgraves> Guys, I have two hard drives in my system, my Ubuntu OS boots off of the /boot partition on one of those hard drives. I have all the other patitions of the system mirrored across both hard drives. How can I copy the /boot to the second hard drive's corresponding partition? (I have already made a partition on the second hard drive equal in size to that of /boot, and /boot has its own partition as well). Basically I need to know what
[05:41] <Iwonder|too> results from apt-cache search
[05:42] <archangel_> Linux archangel 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Feb 1 15:51:56 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:42] <flaccid> archangel_: you are on same version of me
[05:42] <terible> pgraves copying /boot isn't going yo bring your linux back, u have to either modify the nt boot laoder to include linux, or more easily reinstall a poroper boot laoder to the mbr of the drive the bios is configured to boot from
[05:42] <Black_Cat> pgraves: line length is limited in irc, you know :)
[05:42] <dthacker> philphoto: since you're not getting an answer, I would try the forums, searching for your model of scanner.  You *do* realize Fiesty is beta?
[05:43] <oscarmageddon> kien es latinoo??
[05:43] <flaccid> archangel_: how did you get to that upgrade screen? i am not being asked myself
[05:43] <chemicalvamp> Iwonder|too it doesnt say not found... it says E: Package module-assistant has no installation candidate
[05:43] <archangel_> so, I'm good?
[05:43] <oscarmageddon> alguien habla espaol?
[05:43] <dthacker> !es
[05:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:43] <Iwonder|too> chemicalvamp:  i have it installed
[05:43] <flaccid> anyone know what adept is asking archangel_ to upgrade exactly? http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/archangel757/desktop.jpg
[05:43] <philphoto> dthacker: yeah, I do know feisty is beta for another few weeks
[05:43] <archangel_> it just came up automaticly
[05:43] <meo_> no, they are sata drives
[05:43] <Iwonder|too> perhaps its a repos thing?
[05:44] <flaccid> archangel_: just do the upgrade and find out what its upgrading
[05:44] <flaccid> if you want
[05:44] <dthacker> meo_: Sorry, I have no experience with SATA drives.
[05:44] <philphoto> I'm actually having a problem with vuescan loading up a driver.  I have the driver installed, but the program says it's not loaded.
[05:44] <nonuda_> !cronjob
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cronjob - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <meo_> ok
[05:44] <flaccid> i assume a new version of kubuntu available means to jump to next release being edgy
[05:44] <archangel_> kubuntu 6.10
[05:44] <meo_> if they were ide thoughm what would i do?
[05:44] <meo_> *though
[05:45] <archangel_> yeah, thats edgy isnt it?
[05:45] <flaccid> archangel_: yeah ok. thats up to you, but i have a feeling you have edgy sources
[05:45] <pgraves> Maybe I didn't make myself clear... my system BOOTS FINE... its ONLY Ubuntu (No Windows OS on it). However, incase my primary hard drive ever fails I have set-up a software mirror between my primary and secondary hard drives. The only thing not mirrored (due to impossibility) is the /boot partition. However, I did make a partition on the secondary drive equal in size to that of the primary's. The question is how do I make that boot
[05:45] <chemicalvamp> Iwonder|too well i dont sudo: module-assistant: command not found
[05:45] <dthacker> meo_: I would check the hardware to make sure I was booting off the master drive, and the second drive was a slave
[05:45] <flaccid> archangel_: pls pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:45] <meo_> k
[05:46] <Iwonder|too> /usr/bin/module-assistant
[05:46] <dthacker> note to self: win lottery. buy modern hardware.  all the cool kids have SATA
[05:46] <terible> pgraves dd
[05:46] <bobstro> pgraves: you could just make a partition on each drive bootable, then keep them in sync.
[05:46] <archangel_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14817/
[05:46] <pgraves> bobstro, how do I "keep them in sync"?
[05:46] <terible> ex. dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1
[05:47] <Iwonder|too> i might have autimatically acquired it during feisty upgrade
[05:47] <terible> but i wouldn't reccomend that myself
[05:47] <flaccid> archangel_: thats what it is. you went to source-o-matic and put edgy sources in your sources.list
[05:47] <bobstro> pgraves: rsync perhaps.
[05:47] <pollyo> OK
[05:47] <Cosmo_> anytime I install anything using synaptic package manager it attemps to install the VMware player and fails then whenever I restart I have to reinstall the NVIDIA driver to be able to boot into kubuntu. How can I fix this? if someone can tell me where to find the log of the install/uninstall I will post it in pastebin
[05:48] <bobstro> pgraves: is it the OS you're worried about, or your data?
[05:48] <pollyo> I do not know what services to allow within guarddog to allow my webserver to be active.
[05:48] <flaccid> archangel_: so either attempt an upgrade or regenerate your sources.list with source-o-matic using dapper sources and then put them in sources.list then run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:48] <pgraves> so.... let me see if I understand properly.... if the "mirror /boot" partition on my secondary hard drive is set as bootable in the MBR... all I have to do is copy everything in /boot to it?
[05:48] <pgraves> bobstro, the OS AND the Data are already mirrored, now I just have to make my "mirror" bootable
[05:48] <bobstro> pollyo: you should just let port 80 through, but your ISP might block it.
[05:48] <archangel_> someone did it for me in this IRC. So what do I do?  I have a package in my system tray that's telling me I have updates.
[05:48] <archangel_> do I do it?
[05:48] <pgraves> Does it say "Microsoft"?
[05:48] <bobstro> pgraves: well you should be able to boot off either drive with your grub setup.
[05:49] <terible> archangel_ kick it
[05:49] <terible> hard
[05:49] <terible> twice
[05:49] <archangel_> lol
[05:49] <terible> always works for me
[05:49] <dthacker> Cosmo_: Is VMware marked as "broken"?
[05:49] <flaccid> archangel_: read my last comment. you have the choice of upgrading or not.
[05:50] <pgraves> bobstro, how do I accomplish booting off the secondary drive? How do I copy the /boot to it? Should I just make sure the partition on the second drive is set as bootable and copy everything in /boot to it?
[05:50] <archangel_> any cons to doing so? I have cable connection, so speed is not a probblem
[05:50] <Cosmo_> dthacker: checking
[05:50] <flaccid> updating to edgy will take time and may not be an easy/smooth process
[05:50] <flaccid> archangel_: you can try. up to you once again..
[05:50] <bobstro> pgraves: that should work, yes. you have  a separate /boot partiton i'm understanding?
[05:50] <archangel_> lol, I think I'm good for now
[05:50] <pollyo> Port 80 TCP ?
[05:50] <Cosmo_> dthacker: doesn't show it as broken
[05:51] <archangel_> specially this late at night
[05:51] <pollyo> or UDP?
[05:51] <bobstro> pgraves: of course, if the drive grub is installed on fails hard, you may still have work to do.
[05:51] <dthacker> Cosmo_: so much for the easy call.  What release and what package tool, please?
[05:51] <bobstro> pollyo: web server is tcp port 80.
[05:51] <Black_Cat> pollyo, HTTP :)
[05:51] <terible> pgraves, the only way the second hard drive is going to boot properly is if all the configuration files, namely fstab, are correct
[05:51] <pollyo> Ok
[05:51] <archangel_> thanks for your help
[05:51] <archangel_> going to pass out now
[05:52] <terible> right behind ya archangel_
[05:52] <dthacker> lightweights
[05:52] <Cosmo_> dthacker: I'm using edgy and synaptic package manager
[05:52] <bobstro> pgraves: are you planning on swapping the drives if it fails or what?
[05:52] <archangel_> have a good one folks
[05:52] <inteliwasp> every time i try to start a 3d game, X craps out and restarts
[05:52] <archangel_> li la tov  (good night)
[05:53] <pgraves> I have a hard drive, setup with various partitions (one for /home, one for /var, one for /tmp, SWAP, /boot, etc.) and I have a second hard drive that has identical partitions as the primary hard drive. EVERY partitions (EXCEPT /boot) are mirrored using MDs (which I created during Ubuntu Install). So EVERYTHING is mirrored except /boot (due to it not being able to be done). So my data is being backed-up, however, if my primary drive
[05:53] <dthacker> Cosmo_: Does VMWare show up in the "installed" or "not installed" list?
[05:53] <bobstro> pgraves: do you want it to fail automatically, or just use the backup to restore the primary?
[05:54] <Cosmo_> dthacker: installed
[05:54] <flaccid> np archangel_ cya
[05:54] <bobstro> er, fail over
[05:54] <dthacker> Cosmo_ : is it "upgradeable", VMWare that is?
[05:55] <pollyo> someone try pollyo.gotdns.com
[05:55] <bobstro> pgraves: sorry, i thought you said something about not wanting RAID earlier.
[05:55] <pollyo> please
[05:55] <pgraves> the idea was that if the primary failed, I reboot and boot off the secondary, unless there is a better method
[05:55] <bobstro> pollyo: yeah i see a porn stash.
[05:55] <pollyo> lol
[05:55] <Drooling_Sheep_> 68.81.43.126 pollyo
[05:55] <bobstro> pollyo: actually see a directory listing.
[05:55] <pollyo> bobstro: Ok.  That is what it shows when I turn off guarddog.
[05:56] <pollyo> With guarddog back on it doesn't work.
[05:56] <bobstro> pollyo: well you want the firewall. turn guarddog back on and fix that.
[05:56] <pollyo> bobstro: I turned it back on as soon as I got the confirmation of a directory.
[05:56] <nbcb> how to install chinese input? i got skim and scim but can't work
[05:56] <nbcb> !scim
[05:56] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[05:57] <nbcb> !skim
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <pollyo> I think I found something
[05:57] <dthacker> Cosmo_: Sorry, I'm on call and just got paged.   I'm trying to find how VMware might be marked so you can un-mark it.  F
[05:57] <Cosmo_> dthacker: no it doesn't show as upgradeable
[05:57] <flaccid> pollyo: your site aint responding for me but thats cool
[05:57] <Cosmo_> dthacker: np
[05:57] <pollyo> flaccid: I turned gaurddog back on..
[05:57] <chemicalvamp> !beryl>chemicalvamp
[05:58] <flaccid> what is guarddog?
[05:58] <pollyo> flaccid:  Maybe the guarddog website will have some information.
[05:58] <dthacker> bbl
[05:58] <bobstro> pgraves: if you copy everything, then you should be able to set the secondary as your primary and have it work.
[05:58] <pollyo> flaccid: firewall software
[05:58] <Iwonder|too> iptables frontend,i think
[05:58] <bobstro> pgraves: after you install grub on it that is.
[05:58] <flaccid> right well just allow port 80 then
[05:58] <flaccid> i think someone already said that lol
[05:59] <bobstro> pgraves: i'm rsyncing to a network drive on another machine in case the case burns up on my server though. physical separation is good in case of flood or fire.
[06:00] <bobstro> pgraves: for what you're doing, it sounds like maybe raid is a good alternative.
[06:00] <pgraves> bobstro, so I should install grub on the second partition and then Im done?
[06:01] <Iwonder|too> burn grub to a cdr have 2 options in it?
[06:01] <nbcb> my SKIM doesn't work
[06:01] <bobstro> bobstro: if you plan to swap them, then yes. i think that'd do it. i hope i'm not misunderstanding what you're doing though! do get that /boot copied too. i'd definitely test it.
[06:01] <bobstro> heh, pgraves that is.
[06:02] <nbcb> !chinese
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <nbcb> !langauge
[06:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:02] <flaccid> whats wrong nbcb
[06:03] <nbcb> i'm trying to get chinese input using scim.. installed and running scim now..but ctrl-space doesn't do anything
[06:03] <flaccid> im afraid google is your best option. look up how to use scim
[06:04] <flaccid> or try to find another scim user somewhere
[06:04] <flaccid> maybe the shortcut is not ctrl+space
[06:04] <Iwonder|too> maybe ctrl+space is being used by another app?
[06:05] <bobstro> pgraves: just re-read this. if you're using raid, won't you add replacement drive and sync them back up though?
[06:05] <flaccid> true i guess check all shortcuts in kcontrol for conflict
[06:05] <kiwi__> how can i install windows onto my pc with linux?
[06:06] <Iwonder|too> kiwi__: do it first
[06:06] <flaccid> kiwi__: i don't think you really can
[06:06] <flaccid> why not just install it normally
[06:07] <kiwi__> my bro has done it, so i kno for sure theres a way
[06:07] <Iwonder|too> kiwi__: you mean dual boot?
[06:07] <kiwi__> yea
[06:08] <Iwonder|too> install windows first,then instyall your linux
[06:08] <nbcb> ooo conflict
[06:08] <nbcb> brb
[06:08] <sonoftheclayr> kiwi__: install windows first then install ubuntu and when it comes to partiions manually edit it, if you install it wihle you are on here we can help :)
[06:08] <Iwonder|too> if you install windows second you will have A HEADACHE FIXXING GRUB OR TRYING TO TELL NTLOADER TO BOOT TO LINUX
[06:08] <Iwonder|too> ] oops
[06:09] <Iwonder|too> damn caps lock
[06:09] <flaccid> goddam kate just crashed again during save and i have lost code
[06:09] <kiwi__> yea ive herd u can hav a hard time on that
[06:09] <Iwonder|too> flaccid: again?
[06:09] <bobstro> pgraves: it's likely something's been missed here. i'd suggest spending times in forums on this topic to be safe.
[06:10] <Iwonder|too> why not use a different editor?
[06:10] <flaccid> yes it happens fairly regularly. when i save and reload the page i saved in browser it crashes
[06:10] <flaccid> Iwonder|too: because i shouldn't have to. and kate is my editor of choice.
[06:10] <Iwonder|too> kwrite?
[06:11] <Iwonder|too> i've never had luck with kate
[06:11] <flaccid> how can you not have luck with kate?
[06:11] <flaccid> the point is it shouldn't crash.
[06:12] <sonoftheclayr> kiwi__: it's fairly easy to do if you have an idea of what your doing. it helps if you write out the partition layout you will use
[06:12] <Iwonder|too> it shouldn't,but it has been crashing for years
[06:12] <flaccid> on this distro maybe
[06:12] <nbcb> !notepad
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about notepad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <flaccid> i don't have any problems with it on *bsd
[06:12] <nbcb> i need a notepad like windows do..anything easier than kate?
[06:12] <Iwonder|too> on mandrakeand gentoo
[06:13] <Iwonder|too> i don't use it anymore so i dunno about kubuntu
[06:13] <flaccid> nbcb: kwrite
[06:13] <Iwonder|too> kedit
[06:13] <flaccid> i usually use freebsd/pc-bsd
[06:13] <flaccid> just my work computer is still on kubuntu
[06:13] <Iwonder|too> i usually use nano
[06:13] <nbcb> it takes quite long to load..
[06:13] <flaccid> nbcb: it shouldn't
[06:13] <nbcb> longer than windows do to load a notepad
[06:14] <Iwonder|too> it shouldn';t nbcb
[06:14] <flaccid> notepad != kwrite/kate
[06:14] <sonoftheclayr> nano!
[06:14] <Iwonder|too> nano
[06:14] <flaccid> but yes it probably does take longer
[06:14] <Iwonder|too> kedit for simple gui
[06:15] <pgraves> Guys I just tried to follow some steps for installing grub onto another hard drive but it keeps giving me an error
[06:15] <flaccid> nano is tui not gui
[06:15] <Iwonder|too> nano is cli
[06:15] <sonoftheclayr> yeah but it's stil great! maybe mousepad?
[06:15] <neptunepink> mousepad ~= notepad
[06:15] <bobstro> pgraves: this might be a bit hectic of a place for this topic. i'd suggest searching the forums a bit for more detailed answers. i may well have missed some of what you're trying to do.
[06:15] <pgraves> I run Grub, then I type "find /boot/grub/stage1" and it returns "Error 15: File not found" I browsed to /boot/grub/ and there is clearly a file there called stage1........... what gives?
[06:16] <pgraves> bobstro can I message you in private?
[06:16] <Iwonder|too> pgraves: did you grub-install /dev/?????
[06:16] <pgraves> no
[06:16] <flaccid> Iwonder|too: its also a tui
[06:16] <pgraves> the instructions didnt say that
[06:16] <bobstro> pgraves: you can, but i'm not a raid guru and i'm suspecting that's what you want.
[06:17] <dthacker> he needs a mirrored rootvg like AIX
[06:17] <bobstro> pgraves: is this raid 1 done in software?
[06:17] <bobstro> pgraves: or are you just after a good backup solution in general?
[06:18] <kiwi__> sonoftheclay: yea i would want to take out 80 gb for linux
[06:18] <Iwonder|too> tui=terminal user interface?
[06:18] <flaccid> text(ual) user interface
[06:18] <pgraves> the raid1 is done via software via md
[06:18] <Iwonder|too> ahhh
[06:18] <se7en11> i installed feisty beta and it woked till this morning 246 upgades came and now it cant get internet conection anyone a idea how to fix that
[06:18] <Iwonder|too> i spose that would be acceptable
[06:18] <Iwonder|too> never heard it
[06:19] <sonoftheclayr> kiwi__: are you using the alternate or livecd to install it?
[06:19] <pgraves> I am mainly concerned about my data, however if I start working with this linux box more and more and end up configuring it to do a lot of things I'd like to keep all that I setup backed-up as well, hence why Im having the whole disk mirrored
[06:19] <bobstro> pgraves: perhaps this... http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8874
[06:19] <Iwonder|too> ncurses comes to mind with that phrase
[06:19] <dthacker> se7en11: and did you install all 246 upgrades?
[06:19] <bobstro> pgraves: well just keep in mind that alone won't be a good backup solution (though certainly part of one perhaps).
[06:19] <nbcb> my scim isn't working at all.. my shortcut to activate doesn't work
[06:19] <flaccid> Iwonder|too: yeah thats a typical thing to make TUI with
[06:20] <se7en11> nop 4 had a error dthacker
[06:20] <flaccid> and yes tui is a de facto term
[06:20] <Iwonder|too> nano isn't ncurses based
[06:21] <Iwonder|too> cool learn something all the time
[06:21] <se7en11> dthacker: but without internet connection i can't get the missing 4
[06:21] <dthacker> se7en: is your PC connected to a router?
[06:21] <tarelerulz> How do you tell if your download of an iso is not curupt ?
[06:21] <se7en11> yes
[06:21] <dthacker> can you ping the router?
[06:21] <bobstro> tarelerulz: compare md5 checksums
[06:21] <pgraves> Now you're scaring me bobstro
[06:21] <se7en11> no
[06:22] <flaccid> Iwonder|too: i didn't say it was :))!
[06:22] <Iwonder|too> no you didn't
[06:22] <flaccid> bb
[06:22] <flaccid> s
[06:22] <tarelerulz> I did compart the checksum with the iso  one from the site  and they did not match .
[06:22] <dthacker> se7en11: pop open a terminal and run "sudo ifconfig"
[06:22] <Iwonder|too> tarelerulz: that is bad
[06:23] <tarelerulz> I use k3b to checksums
[06:23] <tarelerulz> it that bad
[06:23] <Iwonder|too> tarelerulz: also compare sizes of file online and on your local drive
[06:23] <pgraves> bobstro, let me explain to you what I am doing..... I have a lot of files, documents, videos, music, installers, etc. Currently I have very few back-ups, but I want to fix this. I built a inexpensive computer system and equipped it with 2x 320GB SATA Hard drives with the intent of using this as my fileserver. However, I also planned to create CRON jobs that regularly backed-up data from various FTP locations as well.
[06:23] <dthacker> what does it say after "inet addr"?
[06:23] <bobstro> pgraves: sorry, it's a bit chaotic here. :) i thought you were after a backup solution, but re-reading it seems you're using RAID 1 software setup and want to know recovery details. suggest you go someplace more authoritative for those details, and keep in mind RAID won't help if your power supply zaps both drives! i use rsync to a separate machine for my backups to provide physical separation.
[06:23] <Iwonder|too> you may have an incomplete isio
[06:24] <kiwi__> sonoftheclayr: livecd
[06:24] <tarelerulz> The iso seem to be the same size as what the torrent site says
[06:24] <bobstro> pgraves: ah, then DO investigate rsync. only copies deltas across network, so MUCH FASTER than full ftp for big stuff. i keep several hundred GB in sync this way.
[06:24] <se7en11> for this i would have to boot into the broken system first dthacker
[06:24] <bobstro> tarelerulz: size won't tell you if the contents are corrupted. use the checksums. if they don't match, it's bad.
[06:25] <tarelerulz> What can I do
[06:25] <Iwonder|too> tarelerulz: beware ,if someone altered the file the checksum will fail,and may do damage
[06:25] <tarelerulz> just redownload it
[06:25] <pgraves> bobstro, can you talk to me more in private please
[06:25] <dthacker> pgraves, we back up an entire software repository over a Wan cross country with rsync
[06:25] <bobstro> ok
[06:25] <bobstro> tarelerulz: just download it again.
[06:25] <sonoftheclayr> kiwi__: i haven't actually used the lived to install ubuntu, so i'm not going to be able to help much there
[06:25] <bobstro> pgraves: i'm happy to help, but others here can likely offer good (if not better) advice too!
[06:26] <se7en11> dthacker: i would like to know what i have to do before i boot in again
[06:26] <pgraves> bobstro, are you receiving my PMs?
[06:27] <dthacker> se7en11: does it a) not boot or b) boot and not connnect to the network?
[06:27] <sonoftheclayr> tarelerulz: get the torrent for the file from the website and open it up in ktorrent, when it asks you where to download it to select the same directory that the iso is in, ktorrent should scan the iso that is there for non-downloades/broken segments and download tem again
[06:27] <bobstro> pgraves: ah sorry, tried konversation out tonite. :)
[06:27] <bobstro> pgraves: sent you one now.
[06:27] <Iwonder|too> are ya'll registered/identified?
[06:28] <se7en11> dthacker: b) boot and not connect to the network
[06:28] <kiwi__> sonoftheclayr: its alright then, thanks for the try tho, ill figure it out sooner or later
[06:28] <dthacker> se7en11: your problem could be caused by several things, so I can't tell you ahead of time.
[06:29] <tarelerulz> I had ktorrent check data  integrity and it said numbe of not download to be 0
[06:29] <sonoftheclayr> kiwi__: as long as you don't click confirm or something after you messed it up :) just resize the windows partition and there should be an option to automatically resize the free space but don't hold me to that
[06:29] <dthacker> se7en11: but in general, I would examine your network configuration to see why the computer no longer connects
[06:29] <se7en11> dthacker: probably because of the errors while the upgrad
[06:30] <sonoftheclayr> tarelerulz: i'm all out of ideas then, download it again but using ktorrent to "patch it up" worked with my opensuse cd (i didn't like it by the way!)
[06:30] <pollyo> I turned on every option in Guarddog and still can not get to my webserver.  When I turn off guarddog it gives me no problem.
[06:30] <Iwonder|too> se7en11: check ifconfig for proper ip,check route for proper gw and if you are using wifi check iwconfig for proper essid,channel,mode
[06:30] <se7en11> dthacker: ok i will ty
[06:31] <se7en11> thanks
[06:31] <Iwonder|too> pollyo:  are you turning on options in correct zone?
[06:31] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Internet Zone
[06:31] <Iwonder|too> is there a reference for interface?
[06:31] <dthacker> and may linus have mercy on your soul.....
[06:32] <tarelerulz> atl linux tracker it says I should reigister ,but it still lets me donwload it
[06:32] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Yes.  ath0
[06:33] <Iwonder|too> i was talking to someone else about guarddog,they had to create a new zone and add rules,i didn't understand why
[06:33] <kiwi__> sonoftheclayr: ok, ill do a little research before i begin, thanks again ;)
[06:33] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: I put a checkmark in every option to allow.  I added HTP 80 and 8080
[06:34] <Iwonder|too> pollyo: does netstat -l show it listening on 80?
[06:35] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: It has a list of things with Listen state
[06:35] <Iwonder|too> any http or 80?
[06:35] <dthacker> frack! stupid pager
[06:35] <Iwonder|too> if it svrolled to fast |less
[06:35] <Iwonder|too> *scrolled
[06:36] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: I do not know where to look.
[06:37] <tarelerulz> does Ktorrent use torrent files
[06:37] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: It has Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
[06:37] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Later in the list it adds I-node and PAth
[06:38] <Iwonder|too> local address should show port after :
[06:38] <Iwonder|too> the first few lines
[06:39] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: For localhost:2208?
[06:39] <sonoftheclayr> tarelerulz: yes
[06:39] <tarelerulz> where dose it put them
[06:39] <Iwonder|too> cp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN
[06:40] <Iwonder|too> see the *:ssh?
[06:40] <Iwonder|too> means its listening for ssh connections
[06:40] <sonoftheclayr> tarelerulz: it depends if you paste the url into ktorrent, in which case it saves them to /tmp or if you downloaded it and opened it with ktorrent
[06:40] <Cosmo_> here is the error it gives me when I try to uninstall the VMware player http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14820/
[06:40] <Iwonder|too> you should have one with :http or :80
[06:41] <tarelerulz> I got to the torrent site find the torrent file then it ask me if I want to save it or open with ktorrent
[06:41] <sonoftheclayr> tarelerulz: open it
[06:42] <Iwonder|too> pollyo: try netstat -l|grep http
[06:43] <tarelerulz> Ktorrent is open
[06:43] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Trying it now.
[06:43] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Nothing
[06:43] <tarelerulz> azerurus seem to put the torrents where I can find them
[06:43] <Iwonder|too> turn guarddog off and try it
[06:43] <tarelerulz> never found them with ktorrent
[06:44] <Iwonder|too> tarelerulz: there is setting in ktorrent so you can decide where your stuff goes
[06:44] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Nothing.  But when I go to pollyo.gotdns.com I get something.
[06:45] <Iwonder|too> weird
[06:45] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Can you see anythign at pollyo.gotdns.com
[06:45] <tarelerulz> It shows me where I want to put the files or file
[06:45] <tarelerulz> ask me everytime
[06:45] <the_hammer> hey all trying to get this here
[06:45] <the_hammer> wget http://www.doeweling.com/files/ubuntu/amsn/tcl8.5_8.5.0-1~neto3_i386.deb
[06:45] <the_hammer> wget http://www.doeweling.com/files/ubuntu/amsn/tk8.5_8.5.0-1~neto3_i386.deb
[06:46] <Iwonder|too> yes pollyo 2 directorys
[06:46] <tarelerulz> I just don't see torrent in the dirtoriy at all
[06:46] <the_hammer> it says 404 error not found
[06:46] <tarelerulz> I had to save one there
[06:46] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Same thing..
[06:46] <tarelerulz> now it says it merged them
[06:46] <the_hammer> getting this information form here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216689
[06:46] <the_hammer> is there another link to getting those installed?
[06:46] <Iwonder|too> ok pollyo does guarddog ask you for password?
[06:46] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Yes when you start it up.
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Hey
[06:47] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Did I need to do sudo for the netstat?
[06:47] <DaSkreech>  how do I pull up a smb:/ for aparticular computer?
[06:47] <Iwonder|too> i was wondering if perhaps it wasn't writing to iptables when you apply
[06:47] <Iwonder|too> no
[06:47] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Ok
[06:48] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Could rate limits have something to do with it?
[06:48] <the_hammer> man this is horble i got the amsn 0.97b but unable to work cuz i cant get the tcl and otrher files
[06:48] <Iwonder|too> i would think not pollyo as it works with it off
[06:48] <sonoftheclayr> the_hammer: are you compiling it from source?
[06:49] <Iwonder|too> i do have an idea
[06:49] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Ok
[06:49] <the_hammer> was folloing it from that page
[06:49] <the_hammer> following
[06:49] <Iwonder|too> what is your ufconfig ath0 ip?
[06:49] <the_hammer> missing the files tho cuz i got the 404 error
[06:49] <Iwonder|too> ifconfig
[06:49] <tarelerulz> ktorrent has tmp dirtory for files and I found just torrent in it
[06:49] <Iwonder|too> something like 192.168.1.?
[06:50] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: I have my ifconfig up.  there are a few things listed.
[06:50] <Iwonder|too> inet address
[06:50] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Yes my ath0
[06:50] <Iwonder|too> ok i wonder if guarddog views that as local traffic?
[06:50] <the_hammer> i dunno what i did but im fixed
[06:50] <the_hammer> haha ok have a good night
[06:50] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Are you familiar with any of the other firewalls in the repo?
[06:51] <Iwonder|too> no
[06:51] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: It does not have to be guarddog for me.
[06:51] <Iwonder|too> i rely on my router for protection,i don't use a software based firewall
[06:52] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Ok.  I have a router.
[06:52] <Iwonder|too> well my routers
[06:52] <flaccid> i gtg
[06:52] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Do I have to setup anything special in my router?
[06:53] <Iwonder|too> pollyo: you should have to forward port 80 tcp to your local ip,but it looks like you have allready or are dmz'd
[06:53] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: I forwarded 80 and 8080
[06:53] <Iwonder|too> thats all that is required
[06:54] <tarelerulz> Where is the ubuntu torrent site
[06:54] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Security on the router has the options of: block anonymous internet rquests, Filter Multicast, Filter Internet NAT redirection, Filter IDENT
[06:54] <Iwonder|too> and if thats all that is forwarded your router will block other traffic
[06:54] <Iwonder|too> linksys?
[06:54] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Yes
[06:55] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: So my router should be blocking eveything that isn't forwarded?
[06:55] <Iwonder|too> i've tried them checked and unchecked,only difference i seen is checked it makes it harder to analyze network errors
[06:55] <Iwonder|too> yes
[06:55] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Ok
[06:55] <Iwonder|too> it will block inbound non forwarded traffic
[06:55] <Iwonder|too> i bet you can't dcc send
[06:56] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: I wouldn't even know how. <Grin>
[06:56] <Cantthinkofname> So, I just upgraded my dapper to edgy.  Now my mouse wont work.  Can anyone help?
[06:56] <Iwonder|too> or send a file via yahoo
[06:56] <pagan0ne> Cosmo_: any luck with dthacker?
[06:56] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: You mean my email account?
[06:57] <Iwonder|too> no email should work
[06:57] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: With my software firewall off?
[06:57] <Iwonder|too> but everything else will fail unless you forward it
[06:57] <Iwonder|too> yes
[06:57] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Let me check if the email program can check.
[06:57] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: I was using evolution the otherday.
[06:57] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: LEt me see if I can check now.
[06:58] <Iwonder|too> right click my nick and dcc sxend me something
[06:58] <tarelerulz> Nine minutes we shall see if I get the right cd
[06:58] <bastidraZor> feisty is nice. i can't wait for the upgrade to get out of beta
[06:58] <Iwonder|too> feisty seems lighter
[06:58] <Iwonder|too> faster
[06:58] <tarelerulz> kubuntu has never worked right on my laptop
[06:59] <tarelerulz> most of gotten bad iso
[06:59] <Iwonder|too> i got mine from mirrors
[06:59] <bastidraZor> i tend to put a really test the limits with many applications running.. it does great for my demand
[06:59] <tarelerulz> install on my big computer fine . I really need to learn about chechsum and other ways to see if it is not curupts
[07:00] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Ok.  I tried it and it is sitting at not started
[07:00] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Is that because of my end or your end?
[07:00] <Iwonder|too> ok thats good your router blocks things
[07:01] <bastidraZor> open some ports man
[07:01] <Iwonder|too> \your end
[07:01] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Ok.  Would it have worked if a software firewall was setup in addition to the router?
[07:01] <Cosmo_> pagan0ne: actually I think I found kind of a brute way of doing it sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/info/vmware* then I ran sudo apt-get remove vmware-player and that seemed to get rid of it
[07:02] <Cosmo_> I mean sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/info/vmware-player*
[07:02] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Does the software open up a port on the router?
[07:03] <bastidraZor> forwarding ports is fun and easy
[07:04] <tarelerulz> If I use the ubuntu install cd will it corrent grub ?
[07:04] <tarelerulz> I have been have that problem my grub miss up and I can't boot windows anymore
[07:04] <pagan0ne> Cosmo_: that seemed to help, but it leaves apt a mess on my system
[07:04] <anees> Hi...I've a problem
[07:05] <Cosmo_> is there a way to change how much time that Grub gives you to choose the OS?
[07:05] <anees> I attached a new hard drive with my kubuntu drive...but the drives are not mounted
[07:05] <tarelerulz> Yes it is easy
[07:05] <Cosmo_> pagan0ne: like I said it's kind of a brute method
[07:05] <pagan0ne> Cosmo_: i got it when i told dpkg to --force-all remove it aswell!
[07:05] <Iwonder|too> no pollyo ports in router must be manually done] 
[07:05] <anees> how can I mount my new drives on kubuntu
[07:06] <tarelerulz> just look at in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:06] <Iwonder|too> man mount
[07:06] <anees> ok let me see it
[07:06] <pagan0ne> Cosmo_: thanks for the help, if your apt is still kicking out errors try a "sudo dpkg --remove --force-all (packagename)" should fix it
[07:07] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: I do not know how it works.  For example how do the browsers work fine from multiple machines using the same router without forwarding?
[07:07] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: You are attempting to send me something.
[07:07] <Iwonder|too> yes
[07:07] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: I got the request.
[07:07] <Iwonder|too> as a test
[07:07] <Iwonder|too> its an empty text file
[07:07] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Ok
[07:07] <Iwonder|too> k you can cancel
[07:08] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: I accepted for the test.
[07:08] <pollyo> Iwonder|too:  It says two bytes..
[07:08] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Isn't starting though.
[07:08] <Iwonder|too> pollyo: good question,i think its because the browsers send out a request to be sent to
[07:08] <pagan0ne> Cosmo_: i could hug you.... :D
[07:09] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Would this test have worked with guarddog being setup correctly?
[07:09] <Iwonder|too> whereas if someone is attempting to get in the router blocks them
[07:09] <Iwonder|too> i dunno pollyo
[07:09] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Ok
[07:10] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Let me check something.
[07:10] <Iwonder|too> i have sent files yesterday,it may be my ports
[07:12] <tarelerulz> Thanks god for checksum
[07:12] <tarelerulz> off to install ubuntu to my laptop guys thanks for your help
[07:13] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Can you try to send that file again?
[07:13] <hendaus> hi
[07:14] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: Still no go..
[07:14] <hendaus> can anyone help me please, if i want to hear a ram song from a site it doesnot work
[07:14] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: I tried to setup guarddog again.
[07:14] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: I might check some other softwrae firewalls as well.
[07:15] <Iwonder|too> pollyo: you might want to learn iptables
[07:16] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: I'll check that out as well.
[07:16] <anees> hi ...I am having problem with mounting my drives
[07:16] <anees> anyone help me plz
[07:16] <MuJ> what's the problem?
[07:16] <Iwonder|too> anees: which drives?
[07:17] <anees> I've attached a hard drive...but the drives are not mounted in kubuntu
[07:17] <Iwonder|too> anees:  did you checkout man mount
[07:17] <anees> yes...i tried
[07:17] <anees> but unable to succeed
[07:17] <Iwonder|too> what type drives?
[07:17] <anees> my C: D: E: Drives
[07:17] <Iwonder|too> what filesystem?
[07:17] <anees> ntfs
[07:17] <Iwonder|too> type?
[07:18] <Iwonder|too> ide?
[07:18] <Iwonder|too> sata?
[07:18] <anees> sata
[07:18] <hendaus> Iwonder|too, i open a site and i click on a .ram file and doesnot work,can u help me please
[07:19] <Iwonder|too> .ram is that real audio?
[07:19] <hendaus> yes
[07:19] <hendaus> i have realplayer 10 realmedia but it doesnot work with .ram files
[07:20] <Iwonder|too> anees: i dunno what /dev is sata but the systax is mount -t ntfs /dev/??? /somedirectory
[07:20] <Iwonder|too> hendaus: never seen one try google .ram
[07:21] <hendaus> Iwonder|too,  i am newbie on this linux, sorry i need help
[07:21] <Iwonder|too> for instance my ide drive is mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/winc
[07:22] <kalorin> does anyone have any idea why X would never put my monitors into power savings mode?
[07:23] <anees> yes i dit it
[07:23] <anees> but the result is nill
[07:23] <Iwonder|too> hendaus: its a real audio file
[07:24] <Iwonder|too> i however don't know why it won't play
[07:24] <Iwonder|too> anees: what you mean?
[07:25] <MuJ> sata drives are /dev/sd??
[07:25] <hendaus> Iwonder|too,  yes is a real media file .rm and .ram
[07:26] <MuJ> if you try to mount hd?? you'll fail
[07:26] <Iwonder|too> i thought sd was scsi
[07:26] <anees> Iwonder|too I try to mount the dirves
[07:26] <anees> but it said some permission problems
[07:26] <pollyo> BRB
[07:26] <MuJ> use sudo
[07:26] <Iwonder|too> anees: what command did you use?
[07:26] <Iwonder|too> the command i typed was an example
[07:28] <anees> mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /home/anees/sda2/
[07:28] <DaSkreech> !mouse
[07:28] <MuJ> add sudo
[07:28] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:28] <Hrontore> okay im wanting to install a deb but im not so sure about how to do it
[07:28] <Iwonder|too> ok does /home/anees/sda2 exisyt?
[07:28] <Iwonder|too> exist?
[07:29] <Iwonder|too> Hrontore: right click,install hopefilly
[07:29] <Iwonder|too> hopefully
[07:30] <Hrontore> im trying to install frost wire, when i click download it opens the file in kate,
[07:30] <tarelerulz> How would you do checksum on cd ?
[07:30] <Hrontore> Kate wont save a binary file
[07:30] <MuJ> Hrontore: right click, save target as..
[07:30] <Iwonder|too> yeah Hrontore save link as
[07:30] <Iwonder|too> your file associations are messed up
[07:31] <tarelerulz> I had to install java myself and then install frostwire myself
[07:31] <MuJ> mm.. and?
[07:32] <tarelerulz> Once i did that It worked fine.
[07:32] <anees> yes it exists
[07:32] <tarelerulz> Good luck with  frostwire Hrontore
[07:32] <Iwonder|too> ok anees prefix your mount command with sudo,as in sudo mount -t ntfs,,,,,,,,,
[07:33] <hendaus> friends
[07:33] <MuJ> foes
[07:33] <pollyo> This is great now adept will not even download.
[07:33] <Hrontore> Why did you have problems with it tarelerulz?
[07:34] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[07:34] <Iwonder|too> pollyo: guarddog can block that
[07:34] <tarelerulz> frostwire did not know where to look for java .
[07:34] <Iwonder|too> hendaus: google is your friend
[07:34] <tarelerulz> I just installed it into where frostwire would look
[07:34] <anees> ok
[07:34] <MuJ> hendaus: well tell us how and we'll see
[07:34] <pollyo> Iwonder|too: What does it use HTP or FTP?
[07:34] <Iwonder|too> both i think pollyo
[07:34] <hendaus> Iwonder|too, the icon of konqueror is beside the k-menu,how can replace it with firefox?
[07:35] <hendaus> Iwonder|too,  i mean on quick launch
[07:35] <Iwonder|too> in the panel?
[07:35] <Iwonder|too> drag and drop for quick launch,if regular panel,rightclick panel,panel menu,add apllication
[07:36] <tarelerulz> any of you install moblock?
[07:36] <hendaus> MuJ, thanx, but i have realplayer 10 realmedia and cannot open any .ram and .rm files,maybe it needs the codecs
[07:36] <Iwonder|too> hendaus: open adept search restricted
[07:36] <anees> Iwonder|too I tried sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /home/anees/sda2/  after unmounting...
[07:36] <Iwonder|too> you should see some restrict codecs
[07:37] <Iwonder|too> any luck anees?
[07:37] <anees> but again it appers You do not have enough permissions to read file:///home/anees/sda2
[07:37] <Iwonder|too> anees: it mounts but you can't access the directory?
[07:37] <tarelerulz> don't mplayer read realplayer formats
[07:38] <Iwonder|too> dunno i hate real player formats
[07:38] <hendaus> Iwonder|too,  ok now i have konqueror and firefox,how can i del the konqueror
[07:38] <Iwonder|too> right click delete
[07:38] <Hrontore> okay, how do i find frostwire now that I've installed it?
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> tarelerulz: no realplayer has a stand alone player afaik
[07:38] <Hrontore> nvm
[07:38] <hendaus> Iwonder|too,  ok thanx , ok restricted
[07:38] <Iwonder|too> anees: ls -l /home/anees/sda2 see who owns it
[07:38] <tarelerulz> I know it does have stand alone play ,but that don't mean mplayer can't play them
[07:40] <nonuda> how do we setup apt-get to update or download the packages from another kubuntu box? rather then normal way (from the net) is it possible?
[07:41] <hendaus> Iwonder|too,  ok there xrestricted and linux restricted modules
[07:41] <hendaus> xen restricted
[07:42] <anees> it is root root
[07:42] <anees> i changed ownership with chown anees sda2
[07:44] <Iwonder|too> hendaus: try w32codecs
[07:44] <Alonea> ok, I am trying to watch a trailer and the video is loading fine, but I have no sound
[07:44] <Iwonder|too> Alonea: what are you watching it with?
[07:44] <pollyo> Version upgrade is showing up in Adept.
[07:44] <hendaus> Iwonder|too,  it is not on adept
[07:45] <Alonea> Iwonder|too: the MPlayer plugin thing for mozilla
[07:45] <Alonea> Iwonder|too: its Quicktime HD
[07:45] <Iwonder|too> Alonea: not familiar with it perhaps there are sound engine settings
[07:46] <Alonea> Iwonder|too: have no idea. think this is the link: http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mo/atworldsendtrailer_720.qtl
[07:46] <Iwonder|too> hendaus: no results for w32?
[07:46] <hendaus> no
[07:46] <Hrontore> okay, frost wire will start to load but wont open what does this mean?
[07:47] <Hrontore> do i need to restart?
[07:49] <Iwonder|too> Hrontore: generally not
[07:49] <Iwonder|too> Alonea: i dunno,nothing i have will play it
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Hiya
[07:50] <anees> Iwonder|too i changed the group ownership to anees
[07:50] <Iwonder|too> apt-cache search w32
[07:50] <anees> but again it didn't work
[07:50] <unix_infidel>  you need to setup repos
[07:50] <tarelerulz> is there a way to install ubuntu from usb minihard drive?
[07:50] <Iwonder|too> w32codecs - win32 binary codecs
[07:50] <aldin> how do i see which locale i use... something like echo $locale
[07:51] <Alonea> DaSkreech: hey
[07:51] <Hrontore> thnx for the help
[07:51] <Alonea> Iwonder|too: ok, I got it to just download the file and it played in Kaffeine just fine...
[07:51] <Iwonder|too> yeah hendaus look in your repos list and enable the dark ones then update
[07:52] <Iwonder|too> weird Alonea wouldn't for me
[07:52] <hendaus> Iwonder|too,  where?
[07:53] <Iwonder|too> in adept at top adept,repositories
[07:53] <aldin> help needed echo $locale, en_US.utf8 stuff, ho do i find it out?
[07:53] <Iwonder|too> right click the dark one,enable
[07:54] <Alonea> Iwonder|too: download or sound?
[07:55] <Iwonder|too> sound
[07:55] <Alonea> Iwonder|too: yeah...definately wierd...at least it worked after I downloaded it. Maybe something to do with HD factors or something..who knows
[07:56] <Iwonder|too> no telling
[08:04] <flaccid> !upgrade
[08:04] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:05] <anees> Iwondeer|too I am fed up with my drives
[08:05] <anees> I am still unable to mount my drives
[08:05] <Daskreech2> anees: What's up?
[08:05] <flaccid> anyone recenty done a dapper to edty upgrade ?
[08:06] <Daskreech2> Recently...?
[08:06] <Daskreech2> no
[08:06] <Daskreech2> Why
[08:06] <anees> I attached a sata drive...but drives are not mounted
[08:06] <Daskreech2> anees: How are you mounting them?
[08:06] <anees> I tried with mount command
[08:06] <anees> yes
[08:06] <anees> but unable to access them
[08:06] <flaccid> can you remember which kernel version you had when you upgraded?
[08:06] <Daskreech2> anees: Where did you mount them to?
[08:06] <anees> all the drives are at ntfs
[08:06] <Daskreech2> flaccid: some 2.6.17  kernel
[08:06] <Daskreech2> anees: You can't even see them>
[08:06] <Iwonder|too> aness type mount
[08:07] <anees> i tried it
[08:07] <anees> i mount them
[08:07] <Iwonder|too> see if they did in fact mont
[08:07] <anees> but unable to access them
[08:07] <Iwonder|too> just mount
[08:07] <Daskreech2> anees: What error do you get?
[08:07] <anees> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /home/anees/sda2/
[08:07] <flaccid> right i'm on
[08:07] <anees> I can see a lock on drive
[08:07] <Daskreech2> anees: What happend if you press alt+F2 -> kdesu konqueror sda2 ?
[08:08] <Iwonder|too> anees: ls /home/anees/sda2
[08:08] <flaccid> FreeBSD lister.dev.xhost.com.au 6.1-RELEASE-p11 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p11 #3: Wed Dec 20 18:51:13 PST 2006     root@PCBSD.localhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PCBSDv1.3  i386
[08:08] <flaccid> oops wrong computer
[08:08] <anees> and whenever i tried to open it a message appears You don not have enough permissions to read
[08:08] <flaccid> Linux IONATAEUS 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Feb 1 15:51:56 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:08] <anees> yes it is here
[08:08] <flaccid> wonder why i'm earlier
[08:08] <Daskreech2> anees: ah ok
[08:09] <Iwonder|too> anees: chown -R aness /home/aness/sda2
[08:09] <Daskreech2> anees: Two ways
[08:09] <Iwonder|too> *anees
[08:09] <Daskreech2> anees: one way is easy one way is harder (right now)
[08:09] <Daskreech2> anees: alt+F2 -> kdesu konqueror sda2
[08:10] <anees> yes i tried alt + F2
[08:10] <anees> it asked me for password but didnt show anything
[08:10] <flaccid> Daskreech2: was your system stable after - successful upgrade?
[08:10] <Daskreech2> anees: you put in your password?
[08:10] <anees> i changed the ownership also to anees
[08:10] <Daskreech2> flaccid: not too bad
[08:10] <anees> i typed my password
[08:11] <Daskreech2>  KDE kept crashing but I fixed that
[08:11] <anees> a window open but no data there
[08:11] <Iwonder|too> anees did you -R ?
[08:11] <anees> blank window
[08:11] <Iwonder|too> so you change filers inside also?
[08:11] <Daskreech2> anees: from a terminal do a sudo ls ~/sda2
[08:11] <flaccid> ok i think i'll try it to see if it fixes my few bugs
[08:12] <flaccid> how long yours take?
[08:12] <anees> ok
[08:13] <anees> I am using ubuntu
[08:13] <Daskreech2> anees: see files with sudo ls ?
[08:14] <Daskreech2> anees: you could have mentioned that before :)
[08:14] <anees> Iwondertoo I did it with -R
[08:14] <anees> also mounted it again
[08:14] <anees> :)
[08:14] <anees> man sorry for it
[08:14] <Iwonder|too> -R helped?
[08:15] <anees> Iwonder|too: ye
[08:15] <Iwonder|too> cool
[08:15] <Daskreech2> anees: gksudo nautilus sda2
[08:15] <anees> no
[08:15] <Iwonder|too> its easy to forget linux doesn't do recursive automatically
[08:16] <anees> Daskreech2:  it works
[08:16] <anees> thanx
[08:16] <anees> u r genius
[08:16] <tarelerulz> grub missed up on me and  told grub where to find windows and it started running dell configure tool
[08:16] <Daskreech2> I'm also informed now :-)
[08:19] <tarelerulz> I have to partition one is back up and the other is where windows is stored
[08:20] <rvd> Hi, i'm having a bit of trouble with beryl.. i have no menubars, have snooped around but havent found the solution anywhere :(
[08:21] <livenicely_> so much disturbed due to this message
[08:21] <livenicely_> "kppp could not prepare a ppp log . its very likely that pppd was started with out the de bug option . with out this option its very difficult to find out ppp problems so you should turn on the debug option."
[08:21] <livenicely_> and
[08:21] <livenicely_> " the pppd deamon died unexpectidly exit ststus 16"
[08:21] <rvd> im running feisty
[08:22] <flaccid> 1168 upgraded, 124 newly installed, 64 to remove and 42 not upgraded. 1106MB to get dang!
[08:22] <livenicely_> so much disturbed due to this message
[08:22] <livenicely_> "kppp could not prepare a ppp log . its very likely that pppd was started with out the de bug option . with out this option its very difficult to find out ppp problems so you should turn on the debug option."
[08:22] <livenicely_> and
[08:22] <livenicely_> " the pppd deamon died unexpectidly exit ststus 16"
[08:22] <flaccid> lets see how long this takes
[08:22] <flaccid> livenicely_: check /var/log/ppp.log ?
[08:23] <Daskreech2> flaccid: Yeah I know
[08:23] <flaccid> lucky im on 8Mbps
[08:23] <rvd_> Hi, i'm having a bit of trouble with beryl.. i have no menubars, have snooped around but havent found the solution anywhere :( can anyone help?
[08:23] <tarelerulz> Man you guy should watch some aqua teen humger force
[08:24] <rvd_> tarelerulz: isn't that the one with a burger and some frenchfries??
[08:25] <tarelerulz> Yes that is the one rvd
[08:25] <flaccid> hmm its speeding along with the simultaneous downloading
[08:25] <rvd_> haha it's insane :P
[08:25] <tarelerulz> Yes is is one of the funnyest one I have seen around.
[08:26] <rvd_> havent really seen an episode yet.. One of my friends just told me about it hehe
[08:26] <rvd_> think i'll check it out :D
[08:26] <tarelerulz> Well, get a dvdr I mean dvd haha of them
[08:27] <rvd_> :)
[08:27] <rvd_> no one can help with the BERYL problen?? :(
[08:28] <flaccid> maybe try #beryl
[08:28] <rvd_> flaccid: thanks :D
[08:28] <flaccid> np
[08:28] <posingaspopular> rvd: #ubuntu-effects
[08:28] <ranjan> !beryl
[08:28] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:29] <neptunepink> so this beryl.... is it like screen, or something?
[08:30] <ranjan> beryl is a composite manager and windows manager rolled into one
[08:32] <neptunepink> Ha! Who needs X? I have my virtual terminals! :D
[08:33] <ranjan> good for u
[08:33] <flaccid> neptunepink: then why are you using kubuntu?
[08:34] <anees_> flaccid: i need some of your help
[08:34] <flaccid> ok
[08:35] <anees_> i have ubuntu and i want to mount my drives
[08:35] <flaccid> !ntfs
[08:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:35] <anees_> a genius guy told me this commmand gksudo nautilus sda2
[08:35] <anees_> yes
[08:35] <flaccid> that guide there is good for all fs types
[08:35] <anees_> it open my drive but i want to mount my drives permanent
[08:35] <flaccid> are you on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:36] <flaccid> to mount drives perm. use /etc/fstab as per the above guide
[08:36] <rvd_> anees: it's no sweat to set up the fstab :) Just did it myself, and I'm a total newbie :)
[08:36] <anees_> i have ubuntu
[08:37] <flaccid> cool
[08:38] <the_hammer> hey all hardware issues here
[08:38] <the_hammer> i have a Ge-Force 7600 GS
[08:39] <anees_> flaccid: can u plz tell me the command
[08:39] <flaccid> anees_: i did
[08:39] <anees_> ok
[08:39] <the_hammer> everywhere else i can find including invidia settings it reads correctly
[08:40] <the_hammer> but here
[08:40] <anees_> i've opned this file
[08:40] <the_hammer> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.17-11-generic |  Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz 2047.860 MHz | Bogomips: 8195.76 | Mem: 901/1011M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 72.29G Free: 63.09G | Procs: 104 | Uptime: 7 mins 4 secs | Load: 0.06 0.24 0.15  | Vpenis: 64.2 cm | Vboobies: 44 | Screen: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0392 (rev a1) @ 1024x768 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 0.16M Out: 0.01M
[08:40] <kalorin> the_hammer: I hate you with my envy
[08:40] <kalorin> how's it handle that E6300?
[08:40] <flaccid> anees_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-80128df9c1c4215d74e3f016b5cd2c2352da247c
[08:40] <the_hammer> nicely :)
[08:40] <kalorin> wanting very  much to get one to call my own
[08:40] <wkc> hi
[08:40] <the_hammer> very fast and smooth
[08:40] <anees_> flaccid: what should i change there
[08:41] <flaccid> anees_: read it
[08:41] <the_hammer> only problem im having is display probs
[08:46] <Cosmo_> how do I fix this: every time I reboot kubuntu loads into the command line mode instead of the GUI unless I run ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9775-pkg1.run then once that has run I can reboot into the GUI but the next time I restart it does the same thing again
[08:47] <kalorin> the_hammer: what video card?
[08:47] <kalorin> I've got an ATI x700 and it's not a lot of fun
[08:47] <kalorin> my workstation at work as an nvidia quadra 550 or something such and does a pretty good job
[08:48] <wolferine> can someone help with my samba sharing?
[08:49] <wolferine> might be something real simple, but I cannot write to my remote drive
[08:49] <wolferine> permissions are correct
[08:49] <the_hammer> e-GeForce 7600 GS
[08:49] <flaccid> what os is the remote drive, wolferine?
[08:49] <wolferine> both are ubuntu, this one is a workstation, other is server
[08:50] <kalorin> interesting I was considering ordering a 7600GT
[08:50] <flaccid> first check the fs perms
[08:50] <flaccid> on the directory
[08:50] <wolferine> the remote one you mean
[08:50] <flaccid> and/or file in question
[08:50] <flaccid> yep
[08:50] <wolferine> let me confirm
[08:50] <flaccid> location of where you are trying to write
[08:50] <the_hammer> everywhere else its fine but i goto a term and it gives the unknown thing at lspci
[08:50] <flaccid> pastebin your smb.conf for me i and i'll check that too
[08:50] <the_hammer> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.17-11-generic |  Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz 2047.860 MHz | Bogomips: 8195.76 | Mem: 901/1011M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 72.29G Free: 63.09G | Procs: 98 | Uptime: 17 mins 51 secs | Load: 0.01 0.06 0.08  | Vpenis: 64.2 cm | Vboobies: 44 | Screen: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0392 (rev a1) @ 1024x768 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 0.35M Out: 0.03M
[08:51] <the_hammer>  nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0392 (rev a1)
[08:51] <wolferine> sure, one sec
[08:51] <the_hammer> i wanna fix that i cant play any linux games or anything
[08:51] <flaccid> the_hammer: may not be the reason
[08:52] <the_hammer> i installed wine so i play age of empires and it wont go ither
[08:52] <the_hammer> says something about color
[08:52] <flaccid> correct driver and xorg settings?
[08:52] <the_hammer> not sure
[08:52] <the_hammer> im noob heh
[08:52] <DocTomoe> Hm, trying it here as well: For some wicked reason, changes I do to my grub menu.lst are not honoured, the grub menu after startup is not affected. Any suggestions how  get the changes recognized?
[08:53] <flaccid> DocTomoe: iirc you need to save them in grub console ?
[08:53] <kalorin> have you tried pulling the nvidia closed source drivers?
[08:53] <the_hammer> is there also a way to save my entire linux install so if i crashed i can just install dvd of my install now?
[08:53] <kalorin> that helped me a lot
[08:53] <flaccid> or your grub is in boot sector
[08:53] <kalorin> ati drivers are MUCh faster than the free ones
[08:53] <kalorin> heh
[08:53] <DocTomoe> flaccid: how to find out?
[08:53] <kalorin> not easily
[08:53] <kalorin> well if you have a 2nd drive
[08:54] <flaccid> DocTomoe: can't remember sorry
[08:54] <the_hammer> i just have the 1 drive
[08:54] <N0Lif3> Hey guys, I just acquired a laptop today (SOTEC 3000series. 1.33Ghz celeron proc). When using it in Windows, I noticed that the brightness was a bit high. So I surveyed the keyboard and noticed Fn+F6 is suppose to lower brightness and Fn+F7 is suppose to raise brightness (F6 has blue symbols below it of a down arrow and sun right next to it, F7 is same but with arrow up). The key combo didn't do anything and the brightness is still hig
[08:54] <wolferine> flaccid, http://pastebin.ca/432400
[08:54] <N0Lif3> What can I do?
[08:54] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: in windows or linux?
[08:54] <N0Lif3> sonoftheclayr: both
[08:54] <wolferine> there is my smb.conf, as well as my listed of permissions
[08:55] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: want to swap laptops? mine isn't bright enough lol
[08:55] <N0Lif3> sonoftheclayr: lol.
[08:55] <N0Lif3> so, is there anything I can do to lower the brightness?
[08:56] <kalorin> yeah hard to do that
[08:56] <kalorin> sorry
[08:56] <wolferine> flaccid, I am trying to copy to the ~/FTP dir
[08:56] <the_hammer> now i cnat even get my game to spit out the error it did insted i get this root@duocore2:/home/hammer/Desktop/Empire.Earth.[KAOS] # wine Empire Earth.exe
[08:56] <the_hammer> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Empire.exe": Module not found
[08:56] <flaccid> wolferine: try writable = yes in the share in smb.conf
[08:56] <flaccid> oh
[08:56] <kalorin> yeah wine I don't mess with much sorry
[08:56] <kalorin> have you tried the wine.org site?
[08:57] <kalorin> ack 3am
[08:57] <kalorin> time for sleeping
[08:57] <kalorin> night folks
[08:57] <the_hammer> night
[08:58] <wolferine> flaccid, still have axx denied
[08:59] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: have you installed the drivers for your graphics card?
[08:59] <flaccid> are you loggin in as the right user?
[08:59] <flaccid> its easier to use the [homes]  share
[08:59] <N0Lif3> sonoftheclayr: On Windows, I'm sure the graphics drivers were installed.
[09:00] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: what sort of card is it?
[09:00] <N0Lif3> sonoftheclayr: it's a laptop. Integrated..
[09:00] <N0Lif3> the drivers were SIO.. some number or other
[09:00] <wolferine> so doesnt the name inside the []  really matter flaccid ?
[09:01] <flaccid> wolferine: oh you need security = user as well
[09:01] <N0Lif3> I forgot, but the laptop is a "SOTEC 3000 series" so that may help
[09:01] <wolferine> (they are both the same username on each system)
[09:01] <flaccid> in global
[09:01] <wolferine> k
[09:01] <flaccid> yes
[09:01] <flaccid> wolferine: http://samba.org - documentation
[09:01] <flaccid> don't use security = share
[09:01] <wolferine> yes?
[09:01] <flaccid> its harder to set up correctly
[09:01] <wolferine> sorry, your losing me
[09:02] <wolferine> does the name in between the [] s matter?
[09:02] <flaccid> its explained in the doco :)
[09:02] <wolferine> i have been over the doc
[09:02] <flaccid> yes
[09:02] <wolferine> more than once
[09:02] <pollyo> Anyone know why I have to turn off guarddog to access my webserver?
[09:02] <flaccid> then you should understand this i guess
[09:02] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: are you able to change the contrast?
[09:02] <wolferine> ok, so in [homes]  what is that directed into?
[09:02] <flaccid> its starts with [global]  then changes to share when you [dowhatever] 
[09:02] <wolferine> flaccid, well thanks do your help anyways
[09:03] <flaccid> [homes]  is like a special share
[09:03] <wolferine> can I get someone to help with my samba shares?
[09:03] <flaccid> am i not helping?
[09:03] <wolferine> i wasnt sure
[09:03] <flaccid> if you can't do the config manually. use the gui in kcontrol for samba
[09:03] <wolferine> i cannot get a gui working
[09:03] <N0Lif3> sonoftheclayr: Haven't tried, there is no Fn+ combo for contrast
[09:04] <wolferine> and I dont want to really
[09:04] <flaccid> wolferine: did you read this section? http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ServerType.html
[09:04] <wolferine> i want to JUST be able to copy onto my server
[09:04] <flaccid> then you need to understand what you need to do
[09:04] <wolferine> duh
[09:04] <wolferine> thats why I am here...
[09:04] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: just guessing :) i have a good article here on monitor calibration if you want to look at it
[09:04] <flaccid> but you said you read the documentation that would take a few days to do so...
[09:05] <the_hammer> does this look ok http://pastebin.ca/432415 its from here /etc/X11xorg.conf
[09:05] <rvd> back :)
[09:05] <N0Lif3> sonoftheclayr: sure. if it has laptop information, i'll look at it
[09:05] <wolferine> flaccid, you appear to be getting off track, I appreciate the help you have offered upto now, so thank you
[09:05] <flaccid> wolferine: i changed it for you http://pastebin.ca/432417
[09:05] <flaccid> off track?
[09:06] <the_hammer> anyone?
[09:06] <flaccid> can anyone offer better help/spoonfeed?
[09:06] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: i don't think it's laptop specific but it does look useful, i'm going through it no http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/07/2244242
[09:07] <pollyo> Anyone familiar with guarddog and having a webserver with it?
[09:07] <tinyx> hi
[09:09] <tinyx> Does anybody know how I get get amaroK to play MP3's?
[09:09] <flaccid> !mp3 > tinyx
[09:09] <pollyo> !mp3
[09:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <kalorin> tinyx: use VLC, it's mo-bettah
[09:09] <kalorin> nighty
[09:09] <N0Lif3> sonoftheclayr: I wasn't able to get anything useful out of that
[09:10] <binks> !nvidia | the_hammer
[09:10] <ubotu> the_hammer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:10] <flaccid> wolferine: does this help? http://pastebin.ca/432423 that is the new smb.conf using [homes] 
[09:10] <flaccid> kalorin: sif
[09:11] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: the only thing i got out of it was my monitor isn't as bright as it should be but i already knew that
[09:11] <flaccid> :[
[09:11] <flaccid> :)
[09:11] <cyberius> hi! How can I change the bootlogo of Kubuntu?
[09:11] <cyberius> I downloaded one from kdelook but I don't know what to do next
[09:12] <kalorin> sif?
[09:12] <posingaspopular> cyberius: thats the splash page
[09:12] <posingaspopular> !splash
[09:12] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[09:12] <Jucato> !usplash | cyberius
[09:12] <ubotu> cyberius: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[09:12] <cyberius> thx!
[09:12] <Jucato> posingaspopular: wrong kind of splash :P
[09:12] <posingaspopular> Jucato: what is the difference, if you dont mind my asking
[09:13] <wolferine> flaccid, no, that doesnt help
[09:13] <N0Lif3> I think the KDE splash is fine. The main thing I always edit is that stupid sleeping dragon pic in the Log-Out window ("shutdownkonq.png")
[09:13] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149539
[09:13] <flaccid> wolferine: pastebin your smb log
[09:13] <Jucato> usplash is teh bootsplash, the splash screen that appears during booting (after the grub splash, which is the screen you see in the grub menu)
[09:13] <Jucato> s/teh/the
[09:13] <Jucato> posingaspopular: ^^^^
[09:14] <flaccid> wolferine: are you restarting samba after you make a change to smb.conf ?
[09:14] <posingaspopular> Jucato: thanks
[09:14] <wolferine> of course
[09:14] <flaccid> paste bin the log then and i'lll look at the error for you
[09:15] <Jucato> posingaspopular: the !splash factoid refers to the regular splash screen that appears after you login
[09:16] <posingaspopular> Jucato: ahhhi see
[09:16] <posingaspopular> thanks
[09:16] <Jucato> no problem. now go to sleep :)
[09:16] <posingaspopular> Jucato: ha i wish! i have plot issues on a story that are keeping me awake. might as well try to be productive in here
[09:17] <flaccid> wolferine: to test it by cli. go on the server/remote machine where the share is hosted. goto terminal. run smbclient -U profx //localhost/profx
[09:18] <flaccid> wolferine: if you cannot logon you may need to set password using smbpasswd on the server
[09:18] <Jucato> posingaspopular: oh hehe! good luck :P
[09:18] <posingaspopular> Jucato: thanks
[09:20] <sonoftheclayr> why do i get permission denied when i execut sudo echo 4 > /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD/brightness?
[09:20] <N0Lif3> heehee, I like how in KDE 3.5 the system settings looks very similiar to Mac OS X's system preference window.
[09:20] <flaccid> wolferine: if you are able to login you will get Domain=[HOSTNAME]  OS=[Unix]  Server=[Samba 3.0.24]  and then smb: \> prompt
[09:21] <wolferine> yes
[09:21] <wolferine> i could login on both
[09:21] <wolferine> but still cannot copy
[09:21] <cyberius> I tried the gnome-splashscreen-manager but it closes itsself after i try to open the gz which contains the bootscreen
[09:22] <wolferine> (not copy meaning in Naut.)
[09:22] <flaccid> let me get a command. and pls pastebin the smb log from the server
[09:22] <wolferine> which log
[09:22] <wolferine> doesnt look like any will help
[09:22] <flaccid> the smb log
[09:23] <flaccid> its /var/log/samba/log.%m
[09:23] <flaccid> as per your configuration
[09:23] <the_hammer> !nvidia
[09:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:23] <flaccid> log.machinename
[09:23] <flaccid> and probably smb.log as well if its there
[09:24] <wolferine> i can connect to each (back and forth) via cli
[09:25] <flaccid> wolferine: when you are logged on via smbclient try using the command mkdir testdir within the desired folder
[09:26] <flaccid> so logon to /profx
[09:26] <wolferine> yes, I could make a dir
[09:26] <flaccid> ok cool
[09:26] <flaccid> so it works
[09:27] <wolferine> not 100%
[09:27] <wolferine> but yes
[09:27] <wolferine> thanks
[09:27] <flaccid> but it won't for other users..
[09:27] <flaccid> drwxr-xr-x 3 profx profx 4096 2007-04-01 13:03 FTP
[09:27] <wolferine> i just wanted it for this one
[09:27] <flaccid> the [homes]  will work for all users with a smbpasswd and shell generally
[09:28] <flaccid> if you want other users to write there you need to change the perms on FTP dir
[09:28] <wolferine> i just want the one to write
[09:28] <wolferine> thats it
[09:28] <flaccid> the one to write?
[09:28] <wolferine> but it still doesnt work in Nat.
[09:28] <flaccid> Nat.?
[09:28] <wolferine> Nautilus*
[09:28] <flaccid> right
[09:29] <flaccid> this is kubuntu
[09:29] <flaccid> but maybe your problem is nautilus
[09:29] <flaccid> not loggin on as correct user or something
[09:29] <flaccid> smb log will help
[09:29] <flaccid> and you only need [homes]  or [profx]  not both. they may conflict
[09:31] <flaccid> wolferine: try using konqueror or krusader
[09:31] <flaccid> krusader is like my big brother
[09:33] <pollyo> Why is it so difficult to get a firewall to allow the webserve to work?
[09:34] <flaccid> i dunno. firewalls are not a simple thing
[09:34] <pollyo> flaccid: You would think that just opening the port would do it.
[09:34] <flaccid> not if you have other rules
[09:35] <flaccid> over an hour to get 1166 packages pretty good dang
[09:35] <jon_> could someone tell me how to view free space on my hard drive?
[09:35] <flaccid> jon_: gui or cli?
[09:36] <jon_> cli
[09:36] <flaccid> df -h
[09:36] <jon_> thanks
[09:36] <flaccid> np
[09:36] <N0Lif3> I'm trying to follow some forum advice to adjust the brightness on my laptop and "/proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD/brightness" doesn't exist. I did some looking and as far as "/proc/acpi/video" is empty. (according to konsole)
[09:37] <wolferine> what is the exact line that allows me to write to the samba share?
[09:37] <wolferine> just the writable = yes?
[09:37] <N0Lif3> Fn+F6 is the combo to lower my brightness (shows the downarrow+Sun symbol in blue), but it does nothing
[09:38] <flaccid> wolferine: there are many directives plug authorisation and also authentication and security level
[09:38] <pollyo> Can someone go to pollyo.gotdns.com
[09:38] <pollyo> Tell me if anything comes up?
[09:38] <flaccid> wolferine: i always use writable = yes to ensure users can write to it if fs perms are ok
[09:39] <flaccid> if your mkdir was successful in smbclient it proves that user has the required access
[09:39] <wolferine> that user does
[09:39] <flaccid> use
[09:39] <flaccid> other users won't
[09:39] <flaccid> as its your homedir
[09:40] <flaccid> and you didn't give write access to other users in ~/FTP either
[09:40] <wolferine> yeah, and I can take the -U flag and connect fine
[09:40] <flaccid> its a good practice to use a [public]  share
[09:41] <sonoftheclayr> i got my console to stop flickering!
[09:41] <wolferine> i want one thing to work
[09:41] <wolferine> thats it
[09:41] <flaccid> wolferine: this is not as simple as frying an egg
[09:41] <nonuda> guys i'm so desperate here, i was trying to enable apt-get to download and isntall from another kubuntu box rather then downloading from the net..
[09:42] <nonuda> i have found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal and try to adapt it with smb:
[09:42] <nonuda> but it seems didn't work ;(
[09:43] <flaccid> nonuda: adapt?
[09:43] <nonuda> flaccid: yup
[09:43] <flaccid> how exactly
[09:43] <flaccid> what are you using the smb for
[09:43] <wolferine> cannot do it with Konqueror either
[09:44] <flaccid> wolferine: with which user?
[09:44] <wolferine> its always been the same single user
[09:44] <flaccid> log please
[09:45] <wolferine> honestly, I dont know which log
[09:45] <flaccid> is there anything in /var/log/samba
[09:45] <flaccid> [2007-04-10 17:23]  <flaccid> its /var/log/samba/log.%m
[09:46] <nonuda> flaccid: currently i have 2 kubuntu box running with networking, 1 box have all packages upgrade and have alot of application which i have download using adept, and now i want to install a new app or upgrade the packages from the first box
[09:46] <wolferine> well, there are quite a few now
[09:46] <daya> how can i share files through kde
[09:46] <wolferine> but nothing meaningful
[09:46] <daya> in guid
[09:46] <nonuda> flaccid: i used smb to browse /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:46] <flaccid> nonuda: apt doesn't support samba. copy the packages to the machine and install using dpkg -i packname.deb
[09:47] <wolferine> well thanks anyways flaccid
[09:47] <flaccid> wolferine: how do you know if there is anything meanful?
[09:47] <wolferine> ill get it before the end of the week :/ (I hope)
[09:47] <flaccid> wolferine: we can fix it now if you just pastebin logs..
[09:47] <wolferine> sure
[09:47] <flaccid> if this is not good help im not sure what is
[09:47] <wolferine> give me 15 mins
[09:49] <icecruncher> 9 days till feisty
[09:49] <icecruncher> lol
[09:49] <sonoftheclayr> 9! cool, i can't wait (even though i'm already using it :))
[09:49] <icecruncher> lol
[09:49] <nonuda> flaccid: do u meant to copy all the *.deb from upgraded machine into the fresh machine? to where folder? var/cache/apt/archives too?
[09:50] <flaccid> nonuda: yeah but i'd copy them to /tmp on the dest. machine and install them from there then delete em
[09:51] <nonuda> flaccid: i see, how if share the archives folder using nfs? does apt support nfs?
[09:52] <flaccid> i dunno, i don't think so
[09:52] <flaccid> copy them across using ftp or smb or fish or sftp or whatever :)
[09:53] <flaccid> telepathy://
[09:53] <nonuda> flaccid: guess i use smb, but can we mount the shared folder without smbfs or smb4k?
[09:53] <wolferine> flaccid, http://pastebin.ca/432457
[09:54] <flaccid> you don't need to mount it you can use smb://hostname in konqueror
[09:54] <flaccid> but you can mount using smbmount if you like
[09:55] <flaccid> wolferine: that is indeed weird
[09:55] <flaccid> need to up loglevel probably
[09:55] <wolferine> agreed
[09:56] <flaccid> what is the error returned when trying to write?
[09:56] <wolferine> and its been frustrating me for over a week now
[09:56] <wolferine> in Kon.: Access denied. Could not write to smb://
[09:56] <flaccid> in which dir?
[09:57] <nonuda> flaccid: i believe if i can mounted then i can get what i wanted, can u tell me the smbmount command to mount //nonuda-desktop/archives ?
[09:57] <wolferine> same in Naut.
[09:57] <flaccid> ntfs > nonuda
[09:57] <wolferine> into ~ on the server
[09:57] <flaccid> so you see your homedir ok but you can't write?
[09:57] <jon_> i cant seem to get flash working
[09:58] <nonuda> flaccid: ntfs? no it linux partition..ext3
[09:58] <flaccid> nonuda: its on that page as well :)
[09:59] <nonuda> oh ok then..thanks
[09:59] <wolferine> i can do it all, just not copy into it
[09:59] <icecruncher> wolferine: have you tried commandline, sudo?
[09:59] <flaccid> wolferine: can you edit and save?
[09:59] <flaccid> icecruncher: this is on a remote smb share
[10:00] <flaccid> you can pastebin your smb.conf again and i'll add some stuff
[10:00] <wolferine> no, I cannot write to it
[10:00] <flaccid> ok
[10:01] <flaccid> wolferine:   profserver (192.168.1.119) connect to service profx initially as user profx (uid=0, gid=1000) (pid 17638)
[10:02] <flaccid> uid=0 hmm^^
[10:03] <flaccid> thats where the problem is
[10:04] <flaccid> pastebin the conf and we'll explicitly define the smbuser map
[10:05] <wolferine> pastebin hasnt changed
[10:05] <flaccid> wolferine: ^
[10:06] <flaccid> did you take out the profx share?
[10:06] <sonoftheclayr> anybody know of a good non-gui audio player?
[10:07] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: no, someone else, please do tell
[10:08] <wolferine> k, ill repaste it
[10:10] <dystopianray> sonoftheclayr: mpd
[10:10] <wolferine> flaccid, http://pastebin.ca/432475
[10:11] <sonoftheclayr> dystopianray: mpd? good?
[10:11] <flaccid> wolferine: thanks
[10:11] <flaccid> wolferine: pastebin /etc/samba/smbusers
[10:12] <dystopianray> sonoftheclayr: supposed to be
[10:12] <wolferine> on that box
[10:12] <sonoftheclayr> dystopianray: thanks
[10:13] <flaccid> wolferine: on the server yep
[10:14] <wolferine> its just one line
[10:14] <wolferine> profx
[10:14] <flaccid> what is it
[10:14] <wolferine> wait, its just blank
[10:14] <flaccid> ok
[10:14] <flaccid> that should be
[10:14] <wolferine> /etc/samba/smbusers
[10:14] <flaccid> profx = profx
[10:15] <flaccid> yeah
[10:15] <wolferine> it should be blank (just for clarification)?
[10:15] <flaccid> no
[10:15] <flaccid> it should be
[10:15] <flaccid> profx = profx
[10:16] <flaccid> then use the new smb.conf: http://pastebin.ca/432478
[10:16] <flaccid> then under user profx on termina on server, change passwd by using smbpasswd
[10:16] <flaccid> then restart samba
[10:16] <flaccid> then test
[10:17] <AbortD> fat32 good read and writable in linux?
[10:17] <flaccid> AbortD: sure is
[10:18] <AbortD> great
[10:18] <wolferine> smbpasswd as sudo?
[10:18] <AbortD> how do i mount hda5 now?
[10:19] <flaccid> wolferine: no under user profx
[10:19] <flaccid> ie. change your smbpasswd
[10:19] <flaccid> it can be the same
[10:19] <flaccid> but we want to make sure its sets
[10:20] <icecruncher> !update > icecruncher
[10:20] <wolferine> smbclient //profserver/profx
[10:21] <wolferine> works
[10:21] <AbortD> !mount
[10:21] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:21] <Gizida> lu
[10:21] <jon_> how do i turn on javascript?
[10:21] <jon_> i installed flash but it doesnt work
[10:21] <AbortD> !fstab
[10:21] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:21] <wolferine> I can do either with a -U or not
[10:21] <flaccid> wolferine: does the write work?
[10:21] <wolferine> no
[10:22] <wolferine> permissions denied
[10:22] <flaccid> is it still showing uid=0 in log?
[10:22] <wolferine> the log.profserver?
[10:22] <flaccid> and the client
[10:24] <antimony> ?
[10:24] <AbortD> can someone help me with mounting hda5?
[10:24] <KrAmMeR> does anyone know how to show what device your sound card is mounted to?
[10:24] <icecruncher> how come this is only for ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades? where's Kubuntu???
[10:24] <doblezero_> Hola
[10:24] <KrAmMeR> like /dev/?
[10:24] <posingaspopular> !mount
[10:24] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:24] <flaccid> !upgrade > icecruncher
[10:24] <AbortD> i tried that
[10:24] <doblezero_> Hola
[10:24] <AbortD> its not giving me the mount option
[10:25] <icecruncher> !es | doblezero_
[10:25] <ubotu> doblezero_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:25] <icecruncher> flaccid: it works?
[10:25] <flaccid> !ntfs > AbortD
[10:25] <flaccid> what works
[10:25] <AbortD> i dont want ntfs
[10:25] <AbortD> that is the point
[10:25] <icecruncher> flaccid: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[10:25] <flaccid> AbortD: it details other filesystems too..
[10:26] <AbortD> i want to do a full format
[10:26] <flaccid> icecruncher: yeah im doing it atm
[10:26] <AbortD> on that file system and cant
[10:26] <KrAmMeR> !sound card
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <KrAmMeR> !sound
[10:26] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:26] <flaccid> AbortD: you cant do it on a mounted filesystem ie. /
[10:27] <icecruncher> thanks flaccid
[10:27] <flaccid> np
[10:28] <AbortD> its not letting me use the command "mount hda5"
[10:28] <wolferine> [2007/04/10 01:28:08, 1]  smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(693)
[10:28] <wolferine>   profx (192.168.1.105) connect to service profx initially as user profx (uid=1000, gid=1000) (pid 12103)
[10:28] <wolferine> flaccid, that was my last attempt (i think)
[10:28] <sonoftheclayr> AbortD: try mount /dev/hda5
[10:29] <flaccid> wolferine: that shows now a correct logon
[10:29] <AbortD> tried
[10:29] <AbortD> i will do it again
[10:29] <wolferine> well, the logs, were from the client, not the server before
[10:29] <wolferine> im getting tired
[10:29] <AbortD> says it cant find it
[10:29] <flaccid> either way
[10:29] <wolferine> well, the server logs are alot more huge
[10:29] <jack_> hi, there is in the terminal a license agreement for skype, how can i hit ok?enter doesnt do the job
[10:29] <flaccid> i don't mind reading them
[10:30] <flaccid> wolferine: maybe try adding read only = no to [homes]  but this should be suffice
[10:30] <wolferine> i have yet to surf to [homes] 
[10:30] <flaccid> [homes]  is actually /%u
[10:30] <AbortD> didnt work sonoftheclayr
[10:30] <flaccid> so /profx is [homes] 
[10:31] <icecruncher> flaccid: could you check this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14831/
[10:31] <flaccid> so make sure you removed [profx]  and used only the smb.conf i pasted
[10:31] <wolferine> homes was /profx/FTP
[10:31] <wolferine> and there is nothing coming up for homes, just my ~
[10:32] <flaccid> icecruncher: i don't think it can do the commands within sudo -i ?
[10:32] <flaccid> wolferine: thats how it works. its a special' share
[10:32] <wolferine> so comment out the user
[10:32] <wolferine> k
[10:32] <icecruncher> flaccid: so rather sudo infront of everything?
[10:32] <flaccid> wolferine: comment out the user?
[10:33] <flaccid> icecruncher: i'll test
[10:33] <wolferine> commenting out [profx] 
[10:33] <wolferine> and just using [homes] 
[10:33] <icecruncher> flaccid: man sudo check the -i it says that it's a login as a root use, without the 15 end, dunno
[10:33] <wolferine> well now
[10:33] <wolferine> that works
[10:33] <flaccid> wolferine: use this exact configuration: http://pastebin.ca/432493
[10:34] <flaccid> yes i said to take that out in the first place :)
[10:34] <wolferine> hmm
[10:34] <wolferine> well, thank you
[10:34] <flaccid> thats ok
[10:34] <wolferine> im glad I did (nt) listen to you :/
[10:34] <KrAmMeR> hmmm, i still dont know where to find where my sound card is on /dev/
[10:35] <KrAmMeR> for vmware server
[10:35] <flaccid> wolferine: most people are(nt) :)
[10:35] <KrAmMeR> it tried to use /dev/dsp automatically
[10:35] <KrAmMeR> tries*
[10:35] <wolferine> ok, so what did I do wrong?
[10:35] <wolferine> in my [profx] 
[10:36] <wolferine> or can I redefine [homes]  ?
[10:36] <flaccid> read list = movies, profx is overwriting the write list set in the directive before
[10:36] <flaccid> i think
[10:36] <wolferine> ah
[10:36] <flaccid> and your smbuser map was wrong
[10:36] <flaccid> using [homes]  is the correct way
[10:36] <wolferine> i was wonder if I should have just taken the list = out
[10:37] <icecruncher> flaccid: just edited
[10:37] <flaccid> wolferine: you usually use the valid users = profx
[10:37] <flaccid> directive
[10:37] <N0Lif3> I just got a brand new install of Kubuntu (6.10) running on my lappy. I go to Konsole and try "sudo apt-get update." and when asked for password I assumed "root" for root authentication and it said it failed. :S
[10:37] <wolferine> well, ill let you waste your time on others now
[10:37] <flaccid> wolferine: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch06_01.html
[10:37] <N0Lif3> what is the default root pass on kubuntu?
[10:37] <flaccid> wolferine: i always have. some listen, some don't.
[10:37] <flaccid> !root
[10:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:38] <N0Lif3> ubotu: thanks
[10:38] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:38] <flaccid> !botsnack
[10:38] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:38] <wolferine> lol
[10:38] <flaccid> you deserver it ubotu
[10:38] <flaccid> -r
[10:38] <AbortD> !botsnack
[10:38] <AbortD> pft
[10:39] <KrAmMeR> i guess no one knows how to do this?
[10:41] <flaccid> oops wrong button i guess
[10:42] <AbortD> good
[10:42] <flaccid> i must of quit
[10:42] <flaccid> good?
[10:42] <AbortD> ?
[10:42] <flaccid> yes
[10:42] <flaccid> :)
[10:42] <AbortD> no
[10:42] <AbortD> ;)
[10:42] <flaccid> you fix your problem yet
[10:42] <AbortD> no
[10:43] <flaccid> what you trying to do
[10:43] <flaccid> again
[10:43] <AbortD> to mount hda2
[10:43] <flaccid> perm or temporary
[10:43] <AbortD> perm
[10:43] <flaccid> you tried putting it in fstab, then sudo mount -a
[10:43] <AbortD> let me try
[10:44] <tux> hi
[10:44] <flaccid> thats the usual process
[10:44] <flaccid> or mount /mnt/point
[10:44] <flaccid> after its in fstab
[10:44] <aftertaf> boing :)
[10:44] <aftertaf> is there ANY way Kopete can be used to voice chat?
[10:44] <AbortD> what do i put it in as?
[10:44] <aftertaf> i can do webcam....
[10:44] <flaccid> !fstab
[10:44] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:45] <jack_> hi
[10:45] <David> Hi guys, i have a mac partition on external hard disk, how can i get acces for it?
[10:45] <jack_> Sending failed:
[10:45] <jack_> Could not connect to host mail.gmx.net.
[10:45] <flaccid> what sort of fs is it AbortD
[10:45] <jack_> i get this in kmail suddenly, after it originally wroked fine for weeks, firewall isnt the problem
[10:45] <emanuele11> do you know a program that sorts files, by their extension into different dirs?
[10:45] <posingaspopular> !partition
[10:45] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:46] <AbortD> fat32
[10:46] <aftertaf> Audio support in Kopete is at an experimental stage. If you have an Audio tab, you are probably using a preview build of Kopete.
[10:46] <aftertaf> hmmm
[10:46] <flaccid> AbortD: its in the pages ubotu quoted
[10:46] <flaccid> but i'll spoon you an example
[10:47] <flaccid> example line in fstab: /dev/hda5      /media/mymusic       vfat    user,auto,rw                 0       1
[10:48] <iml-lucy> salut
[10:48] <flaccid> prost
[10:49] <iml-lucy> sorry bad room
[10:49] <David> somebody here?
[10:49] <nonuda> flaccid: i have succed mounted the shared archives of deb folder, but i when i sudo update-mydebs (according to the guide) it said "update-mydebs: line 3 : dpkg-scanpackages : command not found
[10:49] <aftertaf> David: what is the file fs? MacFS?
[10:50] <aftertaf> !mount
[10:50] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:50] <aftertaf> David: ^^^
[10:50] <emanuele11> !sort
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sort - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <AbortD> m
[10:50] <emanuele11> !sorting
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <emanuele11> !dir
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <emanuele11> !...
[10:51] <David> aftertaf: I don't know men, my brother gives to me a external hard disk, but i don't know what type of file system is, i only know is a mac partition, maybe hfs.
[10:51] <binks> !bash | emanuele11
[10:51] <ubotu> emanuele11: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:51] <AbortD> i dunno what its under in /media
[10:51] <flaccid> nonuda: i'm not sure what you are trying to do. i said to use dpkg -i package.deb for each. but from your error you may need dpkg-scanpackages
[10:52] <flaccid> i mean
[10:52] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install dpkg-dev
[10:52] <David> aftertaf: i'm using a generic kernel version... when I used my kernel compiled version (i don't have anythong more) works...
[10:52] <jack_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:52] <nonuda> flaccid: yes i know, but it will take me alot of time to do it one by one, do you mean i don't have dpkg-scanpackages?
[10:52] <jack_> what does it mean?
[10:53] <flaccid> nonuda: correct. i think
[10:53] <nonuda> flaccid: ok i'll check it now
[10:55] <knubbe> !fonts
[10:55] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:55] <emanuele11> binks: bash?
[10:55] <nonuda> flaccid: there's no dpkg-scanpackages in adept manager
[10:55] <flaccid> i meant dpkg-dev
[10:56] <AbortD> should i change vfat to fat32?
[10:56] <N0Lif3> Why is the Desktop folder always capitalized in many distro's (including Kubuntu)?
[10:56] <flaccid> no
[10:56] <nonuda> dpkg-dev is installed, hmm wierd
[10:57] <flaccid> N0Lif3: i think for easy completion in prompts
[10:58] <binks> emanuele11:  sorry thought you were looking up bashcommands
[10:58] <aftertaf> David: what is the dev name when you plug in the drive?
[10:59] <hyper_ch> N0Lif3: because it looks prettier
[10:59] <emanuele11> binks: but it's a nice idea: making a script!
[10:59] <N0Lif3> flaccid: hyper_ch but it is annoying (well, not so much. Since i'm used to it)
[11:00] <N0Lif3> but yeah, every other directory on my machine is lower-case
[11:00] <AbortD> got it now i gotta figure out how to make it accessable from the desktop
[11:00] <Cantthinkofname> so, after I upgraded to edgy, my mouse stopped working
[11:00] <hyper_ch> N0Lif3: symlink desktop to Desktop :)
[11:00] <flaccid> say you go to konqueror, you can type in ~/D and yeah
[11:00] <flaccid> where is there could be lots of ~/d*
[11:00] <osh> X on my feisty stopped working this (or perhaps last) update. Computer "locks" when X starts. Any idea on how to fix? I'm thinking disabeling some modules might help?
[11:01] <binks> emanuele11: what are you trying to achive must have missed the start
[11:01] <flaccid> AbortD: right click desktop and goto configure desktop > behaviour > device icons
[11:01] <osh> !Beta
[11:01] <ubotu> Download Feisty Fawn Beta at http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04, read release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Beta and upgrade instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades; consider doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing; Just because it's almost ready doesn't mean it is - final releases happen when they do for a reason, be warned and prepared for unbootable systems.
[11:02] <flaccid> AbortD: show mounted hard disk ticked
[11:02] <AbortD> im in gnome :P
[11:02] <flaccid> AbortD: otherwise you can create a symlink
[11:02] <flaccid> right try #ubuntu then
[11:02] <AbortD> cant haha
[11:03] <flaccid> hahahahha
[11:03] <flaccid> why
[11:04] <nonuda> flaccid: damn...yes it was not installed !! :( i was checked it on another box..lol
[11:04] <flaccid> nonuda: cool
[11:07] <nonuda> flaccid: now its installed and didn't complaining not found command, but still one problem left, it seems that when it try to create the packages file it got denied, "permission denied"
[11:07] <flaccid> i dunno is it run under sudo/root?
[11:07] <N0Lif3|lappy> Hostname: n30lif3 - OS: Linux 2.6.17-10-generic/i686 - CPU: Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU         1333MHz (1333.522 MHz) - Processes: 86 - Uptime: 34m - Load Average: 0.11 - Memory Usage: 109.12MB/218.23MB (50.00%) - Disk Usage: 1.79GB/27.34GB (6.53%)
[11:08] <N0Lif3> hehe, what do you guys think of my new lappy?
[11:08] <flaccid> not bad
[11:08] <nonuda> yes i run it with command like this, sudo bash update-mydebs
[11:08] <N0Lif3> flaccid: I traded my modded xbox for it. I'd say it was well worth it
[11:08] <flaccid> nonuda: i havnt done what you are trying to do but maybe the perms are wrong on the debs you added
[11:11] <nonuda> flaccid: yeah i guess so, i still wonder where the update-mydebs put the packages.bz file after dpkg-scanpackages read the deb file? hmm..got to read it again..carefully now
[11:11] <flaccid> sorry nonuda i havnt it before, but good luck with it. check that the perms are the same as the other debs including ownership
[11:13] <nonuda> flaccid: yeah ok..thanks..i will tell u if i have succeed with it ;) but i guess not today hehehe
[11:14] <flaccid> see if dpkg supports dpkg -i /myfolder/*deb
[11:14] <flaccid> i can't remember if it does or not
[11:15] <Cantthinkofname> Hi.  So, I just upgraded to 6.10, and now my MS usb mouse doesn't work.  Can anyone help me?
[11:15] <nonuda> ah ok..let me test it
[11:18] <N0Lif3> Hey, what is the best way to get flash support working in Konqueror? (such as for watching YouTube videos)
[11:19] <nonuda> flaccid: hmm.. dpkg -i /mufolder/*.deb will install all the packeges in that folder..
[11:19] <nonuda> flaccid: ok..gtg now..thanks
[11:20] <flaccid> nonuda: thats why you should of copied it to a dif folder :)
[11:20] <flaccid> np
[11:22] <anti_pop> is it possible to reset the K-Menu ?
[11:23] <AbortD> maybe
[11:23] <anti_pop> new programms dont add to it ? for example if i install package "kdegames" there are no new games in "games" :)
[11:26] <awen> knetworkmanager doesn't show any wireless network (doesn't even show that any wireless network cards is avaible)... anybody experiencing the same?
[11:26] <flaccid> !wireless
[11:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:26] <flaccid> i guess need to look at it in detail
[11:26] <flaccid> has your wireless worked before
[11:26] <awen> i can connect using wlanmanager
[11:27] <awen> and it worked a few days ago
[11:27] <flaccid> i've had that happen before
[11:27] <flaccid> don't know why
[11:28] <awen> usually a reboot solves it, but not this time
[11:29] <flaccid> knetworkmanager relies on networkmanager daemon?
[11:29] <flaccid> i cant remember
[11:29] <kraut> moin
[11:30] <awen> can't find anything of that name
[11:31] <flaccid> NetworkManager i think it is
[11:31] <flaccid> sorry i can't remember and am not on wireless atm
[11:32] <awen> okay... i'll see if it solves itself, if not it should qualify for a bug report
[11:36] <flaccid> awen: you tried kwireless
[11:36] <flaccid> i think that exists
[11:36] <flaccid> !info kwireless
[11:36] <ubotu> Package kwireless does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[11:37] <flaccid> hmm
[11:37] <AbortD> lol
[11:37] <AbortD> there is a good wireless client in kde
[11:37] <flaccid> hmm thats only an indicator icon
[11:37] <AbortD> if i could remember the string to get it running
[11:38] <dystopianray> knetworkmanager is a good wireless client for kde
[11:38] <PhinnFort> ok, I think I have a serious problem
[11:38] <PhinnFort> http://rafb.net/p/Zh594q70.html
[11:38] <flaccid> awen: googling knetworkmanager problems on ubuntu there are lots
[11:39] <dystopianray> PhinnFort: looks like you got filesystem curruption
[11:39] <PhinnFort> dystopianray: how
[11:40] <PhinnFort> it had been running for some hours
[11:40] <flaccid> is it ok to run fsck on this xfs ?
[11:40] <flaccid> i mean can you
[11:40] <PhinnFort> flaccid: yeah
[11:40] <PhinnFort> should I
[11:40] <PhinnFort> ?
[11:40] <flaccid> i don't know
[11:40] <PhinnFort> I'll try
[11:40] <dystopianray> PhinnFort: yes, you should fsck it
[11:40] <flaccid> i havnt used xfs before
[11:40] <PhinnFort> most of it is backed up
[11:41] <flaccid> ok cool
[11:41] <dystopianray> PhinnFort: it tells you what to do at the bottom of your paste
[11:41] <PhinnFort> yeah "rectify"
[11:41] <PhinnFort> If you wish to check the consistency of an XFS filesystem or
[11:41] <PhinnFort> repair a damaged filesystem, see xfs_check(8) and xfs_repair(8).
[11:41] <PhinnFort> hmm
[11:42] <flaccid> sounds good
[11:42] <PhinnFort> ok... "umount: /home/w00t: device is busy"
[11:42] <PhinnFort> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() xfs file system /home/w00t
[11:42] <flaccid> do an unmount -l
[11:42] <PhinnFort> what does/did it do?
[11:43] <flaccid> then man those xfs bins and find correct switches to use
[11:43] <flaccid> -l is lazy unmount
[11:43] <PhinnFort> ok... fatal error -- couldn't initialize XFS library
[11:43] <PhinnFort> only libs I can find is xfslibs-dev
[11:44] <flaccid> hmm
[11:44] <flaccid> !find xfs
[11:44] <ubotu> Found: xfsdump, xfslibs-dev, xfsprogs, xfs, xfsinfo (and 1 others)
[11:44] <PhinnFort> !info libdm0
[11:44] <ubotu> libdm0: Data Management API runtime environment. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.4-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 88 kB
[11:45] <PhinnFort> ldd is not fun: "        not a dynamic executable"
[11:45] <N0Lif3> I'm trying to play vid's in Kaffeine and all I'm getting is a black screen. What should I do?
[11:46] <PhinnFort> N0Lif3: try another video driver
[11:46] <N0Lif3> PhinnFort: how?
[11:46] <PhinnFort> N0Lif3: Settings
[11:46] <sonoftheclayr> nmpc
[11:46] <sonoftheclayr> oops! wrong console :)
[11:46] <flaccid> !bicyclerepair
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bicyclerepair - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <PhinnFort> !bicycleshed
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bicycleshed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <PhinnFort> !bikeshed
[11:47] <flaccid> !info bicyclerepair
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bikeshed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <ubotu> bicyclerepair: A refactoring tool for python. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9-4.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 752 kB
[11:47] <flaccid> hehe sorry
[11:47] <PhinnFort> :D
[11:47] <Hc> :S
[11:47] <flaccid> my edgy upgrade is up nearly done
[11:47] <PhinnFort> can someone here try to install the xfsprogs and just run xfs_check?
[11:47] <PhinnFort> "fatal error -- couldn't initialize XFS library"
[11:47] <icecruncher> flaccid: not fair
[11:47] <icecruncher> lol
[11:48] <flaccid> but who knows
[11:48] <flaccid> could stil be a while
[11:48] <flaccid> could run into another problem
[11:48] <PhinnFort> flaccid: can you just install xfsprogs and try?
[11:48] <flaccid> im upgrading sorry
[11:48] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[11:48] <PhinnFort> flaccid: sure you don't have it already?
[11:48] <icecruncher> flaccid: I'm running the script, except that sudo -i is gone and and there was an error in the code, but otehr thn tha, 3 more hours of download
[11:49] <flaccid> !info xfsprogs
[11:49] <ubotu> xfsprogs: Utilities for managing the XFS filesystem. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.10-1 (edgy), package size 1156 kB, installed size 2900 kB
[11:49] <flaccid> yeah i don't
[11:49] <PhinnFort> optional...
[11:50] <flaccid> cp: cannot stat `/etc/udev/rules.d/65-persistent-storage.rules': No such file or directory
[11:50] <flaccid> hmm
[11:50] <icecruncher> lol
[11:50] <flaccid> i must have no rules from dapper
[11:50] <flaccid> hopefully
[11:51] <N0Lif3> Anybody know if there are any plans for a "Powered By Kubuntu" sticker. I've seen Ubuntu ones offered.
[11:51] <PhinnFort> N0Lif3: see topic
[11:51] <PhinnFort> print yourself;)
[11:51] <flaccid> heh its stopping networkmanager daemon i reckon thats going to dis the network coz im ssh in
[11:51] <anees_> hi flaccid
[11:52] <N0Lif3> PhinnFort: my bad..
[11:52] <PhinnFort> :D
[11:52] <anees_> i m installing kooldock...but it require autoconf 2.53
[11:52] <anees_> how should i install it
[11:52] <flaccid> !find autoconf
[11:52] <ubotu> Found: autoconf, autoconf-doc, autoconf2.13, autoconf-archive
[11:52] <flaccid> !info autoconf
[11:52] <ubotu> autoconf: automatic configure script builder. In component main, is optional. Version 2.60-1 (edgy), package size 429 kB, installed size 1640 kB
[11:52] <flaccid> install that one i guess
[11:53] <flaccid> damn i'm going to have to go walk up the road and goto console display 0
[11:53] <icecruncher> !language > flaccid
[11:53] <icecruncher> lol
[11:53] <flaccid> fuck
[11:53] <flaccid> sorry
[11:53] <PhinnFort> !attitude | icecruncher
[11:53] <ubotu> icecruncher: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:53] <PhinnFort> ;)
[11:54] <PhinnFort> !away
[11:54] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[11:54] <flaccid> hehe
[11:54] <PhinnFort> :D
[11:54] <flaccid> !flaccid
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flaccid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <icecruncher> !patience | PhinnFort
[11:54] <ubotu> PhinnFort: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:54] <PhinnFort> !attack icecruncher
[11:54] <icecruncher> lol
[11:54] <sonoftheclayr> stop abusing the bot please!
[11:54] <PhinnFort> sonoftheclayr: we will
[11:55] <icecruncher> yeah
[11:55] <N0Lif3> !autologin
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autologin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <anees_> flaccid: i m using ubuntu...I find and update autoconf...but it again gives me message that kooldock require autoconf 2.53
[11:55] <N0Lif3> :/
[11:55] <flaccid> maybe it requires that specific version
[11:55] <PhinnFort> N0Lif3: go to System Settings - Login MAnager -> Convenience
[11:55] <N0Lif3> PhinnFort: :D
[11:55] <PhinnFort> :D:D
[11:56] <anees_> hmmm...ok...how to check my current autoconf version?
[11:56] <flaccid> dpkg -l | grep autoconf
[11:56] <PhinnFort> icecruncher: :D
[11:56] <icecruncher> lol
[11:57] <N0Lif3> PhinnFort: I see no "Login Manager" in System Settings
[11:57] <flaccid> note to self. don't do a kubuntu upgrade remotely if you have NetworkManager running
[11:57] <PhinnFort> N0Lif3: Advanced tab
[11:57] <PhinnFort> flaccid: :P
[11:58] <flaccid> how ghey is that i tell ya
[11:58] <PhinnFort> but I still need the xfs libs
[11:58] <flaccid> i have to walk around the block now
[11:58] <icecruncher> LOL
[11:58] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[11:58] <anees_> thanx man
[11:58] <PhinnFort> flaccid: do you think I will get the libs if I walk around the block?
[11:59] <flaccid> i hope so
[12:06] <jordilin> using feisty beta with kde, the text under the folders in konqueror sometimes is white, sometimes black, why?
[12:12] <flaccid> rightio
[12:12] <flaccid> i'm going to do this tomorrow
[12:12] <flaccid> goodnight and good luck
[12:14] <lestus> lol
[12:14] <lestus> nice one
[12:15] <daya> how can i access the nfs share in kubuntu
[12:15] <daya> withou the mount command
[12:16] <dystopianray> daya: you can't
[12:16] <daya> dystopianray, but some one say that it can eb
[12:16] <daya> be
[12:16] <dystopianray> daya: who said this?
[12:16] <daya> dystopianray, like smb://<ip> can we use nfs://<ip>
[12:17] <daya> in kde
[12:17] <dystopianray> daya: i'm fairly certain nfs:// is horribly broken and has never worked
[12:18] <daya> dystopianray, ok
[12:20] <daya> dystopianray, then we can't do it, will it be capable in future release of konqueror?
[12:20] <dystopianray> daya: probably not, it's been broken for years
[12:20] <lestus> dang
[12:20] <daya> dystopianray, but nfs is fine in command line isn't it?
[12:20] <dystopianray> daya: yes it works great, it has nothing to do with kde
[12:21] <anees_> hi...i installed xine player for mp3 songs...but it do now play mp3 songs
[12:21] <dystopianray> daya: if you are connecting to the same nfs share every time, put it in /etc/fstab to allow users to mount it
[12:21] <anees_> anybody tell me about xine player
[12:21] <dystopianray> anees_: you need libxine-extracodecs
[12:22] <daya> dystopianray, yes , but I am wrintig a simple manual for usesrs without any commands line so i am searcing for them
[12:22] <dystopianray> daya: kde might be able to mount an nfs share via media:// if it's in fstab
[12:23] <dystopianray> daya: for casual file sharing you should probably stick to smb
[12:24] <dystopianray> daya: or something like kpf
[12:24] <daya> dystopianray, ok , I lastly conclude smb will be the best choice
[12:24] <daya> dystopianray, but kpf is only on web isn't it?
[12:25] <dystopianray> daya: no it can share on lans
[12:25] <dystopianray> daya: it'd only share over the web if you setup your network to allow that
[12:25] <dystopianray> daya: it's simple to use and is zeroconf enabled
[12:25] <daya> dystopianray, ye, sorry , i din't know about that
[12:25] <rado_> wazzup
[12:26] <sonoftheclayr> dystopianray: thanks for telling me about mdp, it's great!
[12:27] <dystopianray> sonoftheclayr: no problem
[12:27] <daya> dystopianray, fine
[12:27] <dystopianray> daya: fine?
[12:28] <daya> dystopianray, I mean kpf , :D
[12:35] <lestus> lol
[12:36] <dystopianray> what is funny?
[12:37] <icecruncher> !botsnack
[12:37] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:37] <lestus> soz but this makes for nice bed-time reading :P
[12:41] <xConfig> Hey guys, I've got a really annoying problem with my screen
[12:42] <xConfig> ... the scrolling, it doesn't scroll smoothly, it's being cut in frames
[12:42] <xConfig> and that .. is a real pain for the eyes
[12:42] <xConfig> I've installed the gfx drivers for my card.. and yet it doesn't fix
[12:42] <xConfig> anybody an idea..?
[12:43] <dystopianray> xConfig: what card do you have?
[12:44] <xConfig> SiS
[12:44] <xConfig> :/
[12:45] <anees_> dystopianray: how can i install libxine-extracodecs
[12:45] <anees_> i tried a lot but unable to find it
[12:46] <dystopianray> anees_: do you have universe and multiverse repositries enabled?
[12:46] <N0Lif3> Are there any k-based iTunes alternatives? (music library, podcasting, iPod support. 2nd gen iPod nano support to be specific)
[12:46] <anees_> dystopianray: in which file
[12:46] <bobbicat> hello and i have problem with new install of edgy from cd
[12:46] <dystopianray> N0Lif3: you've not heard of amarok?
[12:46] <icecruncher> !botsnack
[12:46] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:47] <N0Lif3> dystopianray: that has iPod support?
[12:47] <dystopianray> N0Lif3: yes
[12:47] <N0Lif3> dystopianray: and podcasting?
[12:47] <dystopianray> N0Lif3: yes
[12:47] <N0Lif3> wow
[12:47] <N0Lif3> thannks
[12:47] <dystopianray> N0Lif3: if you mean, subscribing and listening to podcasts
[12:47] <N0Lif3> dystopianray: yeah yeah
[12:47] <xConfig> dystopianray: do you think the problem is related with the xorg.conf ?
[12:48] <xConfig> coz I simply have no idea what else it can be
[12:48] <dystopianray> xConfig: probably
[12:48] <dystopianray> xConfig: I don't really have any idea with sis hardware
[12:48] <dystopianray> anees_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:48] <dystopianray> anees_: open that file in a text editor using sudo
[12:49] <dystopianray> N0Lif3: http://amarok.kde.org/features
[12:50] <bobbicat> i cannot get aptitude to connect successfully - internet connection is working ok
[12:50] <N0Lif3> cool. I'll look into that after my lappy finishes its Battery Calibration (BIOS)
[12:50] <bobbicat> anyone help me?
[12:50] <anees_> dystopianray: ok ...i did it
[12:51] <dystopianray> anees_: can you find the line that looks like this: #deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[12:51] <anees_> all the universe multiverse options are enabled
[12:51] <dystopianray> anees_: they are uncommented?
[12:52] <dystopianray> anees_: and you're sure that multiverse is in there?
[12:52] <xConf> .msg ns n register d3va5ala
[12:52] <anees_> yes...
[12:53] <anees_> dystopianray: i want to show u my sources.list file
[12:53] <anees_> where should I paste it
[12:53] <dystopianray> !pastebin | anees_
[12:53] <ubotu> anees_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:55] <anees_> dystopianray: plz check it...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14840/
[12:55] <icecruncher> !download
[12:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[12:55] <icecruncher> !downloadmanager
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about downloadmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <Jucato> !info kget
[12:56] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[12:56] <dystopianray> anees_: ok that looks fine, close the file and in a terminal run this: sudo apt-get update
[12:57] <matutano> hi there anyone around? I'm needing help
[12:57] <anees_> ok
[12:58] <matutano> hi there, I have a problem in my xgl account, I can't use alt key as writting modifier :X
[01:04] <anees> dystopianray: i update the ubuntu
[01:05] <anees> usint sudo apt-get update...but no new update available
[01:05] <dystopianray> anees: ok
[01:06] <gemidjy> can anyone confirm me this before reporting it as bug, when using Beryl (either with Emerald or Aquamarine) and when u start Konversation, the Server List dialog appears without focus and ability to close it
[01:06] <matutano> hi there, I have a problem in my xgl account, I can't use alt key as writting modifier :X
[01:06] <matutano> can anyone help me? instead of ignoring :\
[01:06] <anees> dystopianray: so how to install libxine-extracodecs
[01:06] <anees> plz guide me
[01:07] <gemidjy> matutano: are u sure u ask on the right #channel ?
[01:07] <dystopianray> anees: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[01:08] <icecruncher> how can you pause an update?
[01:08] <icecruncher> in the konsole
[01:08] <dystopianray> icecruncher: pause an apt-get update ?
[01:08] <icecruncher> yeah
[01:08] <matutano> Well I think is a kubuntu problem gemidjy  :\
[01:09] <gemidjy> matutano: so when you login with your xgl account in KDE, you can't use Alt as modifier key?
[01:09] <matutano> for writing only.. :\
[01:09] <matutano> can use alt + f4 for exemple
[01:10] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: right clik in konsole > send signal > suspend task (stop)
[01:10] <sonoftheclayr> i think
[01:10] <icecruncher> ahh, yeah
[01:10] <matutano> or cntrl + z to suspend
[01:10] <icecruncher> thanks, then cont
[01:10] <melinda82> hello
[01:10] <sonoftheclayr> melinda82: hi
[01:10] <dystopianray> doesn't ctrl+z just background a task?
[01:10] <melinda82> is there any way, to record audiodvd's??
[01:10] <dystopianray> melinda82: you can make them, yes
[01:11] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: or not
[01:11] <melinda82> dystopianray, I CAN'T find the way with k3b..
[01:11] <matutano> dystopianray,  my console says stopped :X
[01:11] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: the only way to find out is to try
[01:11] <dystopianray> melinda82: you make them with another program and use k3b to burn the dvd image
[01:11] <icecruncher> agh
[01:11] <matutano> [1] +  Stopped                 sudo apt-get update
[01:11] <melinda82> dystopianray, wich is the program?
[01:11] <dystopianray> melinda82: i don't quite remember, i'll have to look in google
[01:12] <melinda82> i've searched a lil bit, but haven't find anything under linux
[01:13] <gemidjy> hah this aquamarine&beryl thing pwnz
[01:13] <_steffen_> is there a known bug in feisty with the wlan??  on 6.10 everything worked fine, but with feisty i get no connection ( on notebook and pc ... )
[01:14] <dystopianray> _steffen_: what wireless chipset?
[01:14] <dystopianray> melinda82: http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml
[01:14] <melinda82> dystopianray, i'm gonna give a try
[01:14] <melinda82> thx!!
[01:15] <_steffen_> dystopianray, i tak ea lokk, one moment plz
[01:16] <dystopianray> melinda82: do you have content suitable for an audio-dvd? 24-bit/96Khz ?
[01:17] <_steffen_> dystopianray,  RaLink : RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI
[01:18] <dystopianray> _steffen_: ah, i've heard of a few people have trouble with those cards, not sure what a solution is
[01:18] <dystopianray> _steffen_: but anyway, ask in #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[01:18] <_steffen_> dystopianray: ok thx
[01:18] <icecruncher> hmm, it aint ctrl + c
[01:19] <melinda82> dystopianray, i have them on mp3,
[01:19] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: no it isn't but i think apt will resume a download or are you past that stage?
[01:20] <icecruncher> i'm thankfully still in that stage
[01:20] <icecruncher> otherwise,... ugh
[01:20] <anees> dystopianray: I tried it... but I got a message Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[01:21] <peaker> is NDEBUG defined when compiling KDE for Kubuntu?
[01:21] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: you see, the problem ws that my net connection was really slow, so i wanted to pause the update, reset the connection and then resume the update
[01:22] <dystopianray> melinda82: hrrm, are you trying to make a dvd full of mp3s, or you want to make a proper audio-dvd that requries a special audio-dvd player?
[01:22] <melinda82> audio-dvd for being played in the ps2
[01:22] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: yeah, i'm certain apt resumes downloads, i've done it myself a couple of times
[01:22] <dystopianray> melinda82: the ps2 plays audio-dvd?
[01:23] <melinda82> dystopianray, it's ... for a dance game lol
[01:23] <dystopianray> melinda82: exactly what format does this game expect?
[01:23] <melinda82> audio
[01:23] <dystopianray> melinda82: the ps2 can't play dvd-audio
[01:23] <dystopianray> melinda82: audio cds?
[01:23] <melinda82> yes
[01:23] <melinda82> i suppose
[01:24] <dystopianray> melinda82: you'll have to use cds, not dvds
[01:24] <melinda82> the game does not explain very much
[01:24] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr; yup, after stopping tasks, my comp just shut down, so
[01:24] <xeen777> hey
[01:24] <icecruncher> hi
[01:24] <peaker> how would a Kubuntu developer debug KDE, if it comes with NDEBUG enabled, and all the debug prints/etc are disabled?
[01:24] <supernix> Hi all
[01:24] <supernix> Anyone know of a good resource to get Samba and XP to work together
[01:25] <icecruncher> !samba | supernix
[01:25] <ubotu> supernix: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:25] <xeen777> em somebody know how to delete all files on the harddisc within some minutes or secundes ?
[01:25] <richardh_> Hi, I've got a pretty serious problem with CPU overheating ...anyone experience something similar?
[01:26] <richardh_> @xeen777: with a magnet, yes
[01:26] <xeen777> havent
[01:26] <icecruncher> richardh_; no
[01:26] <archangel_> how do you get the middle mouse (scroll push button) to work?
[01:26] <xeen777> i dont want to destroy my harddisc
[01:26] <sonoftheclayr> richardh_: i did! but the hard disk had to be replacesd, a new heatsink and new fan
[01:27] <xeen777> damn -.-
[01:27] <richardh_> @sonoftheclay: oh, I hope that's not what my notebook requires...
[01:27] <supernix> I found the swat tool to be useless for helping to get samba working
[01:27] <icecruncher> !format | xeen777
[01:27] <ubotu> xeen777: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:27] <sonoftheclayr> richardh_: well that was after the hard disk stopped working so if it's still working you should be fine :)
[01:27] <archangel_> how does linux work on the quad core cpu's?  ok?
[01:28] <sonoftheclayr> richardh_: for noe
[01:28] <richardh_> well, my notebook worked fine until a few weeks ago..now my system slows to a crawl after a while...
[01:28] <sonoftheclayr> now*
[01:28] <xeen777> ok thx i will check this solutions
[01:28] <archangel_> building a new machine and I'm getting the good stuff
[01:28] <icecruncher> archangel_: dunno, never heard of it. lol
[01:28] <richardh_> and the CPU is really working a lot...and the computer gets really hot...even though I hear the fan going once in a while
[01:29] <root_> hello anybody can guide me on how to do NATING
[01:29] <icecruncher> ?
[01:29] <icecruncher> root_: what is that?
[01:30] <root_> internet connection sharing
[01:30] <root_> i have sify broadband on one LAN card
[01:31] <icecruncher> and what do you want to do?
[01:31] <richardh_> Oh, i Just noticed I don't seem to have a swap partition anymore...can this be part of the problem?
[01:31] <icecruncher> richardh_: yes
[01:31] <sonoftheclayr> richardh_: the same thing happened on my old laptop!
[01:31] <root_> i have to share it on another LAN card
[01:31] <richardh_> how can the swap partition disappear all of a sudden?
[01:31] <archangel_> how to do Nating = just sit there
[01:32] <icecruncher> root_: so you want an internet connection on 2 cards?
[01:32] <xeen777> xD
[01:32] <mayuresh> yes
[01:32] <richardh_> @sonoftheclayr: the one with the broken disk?
[01:32] <mayuresh> on both cards
[01:32] <sonoftheclayr> richardh_: no that was mum's desktop
[01:32] <richardh_> sonoftheclay: please say no haha
[01:32] <richardh_> sonoftheclay: and what did you do to remedy that situation?
[01:32] <mayuresh> how to do plz help
[01:32] <sonoftheclayr> richardh_: no swap on that i can't get her to switch from windows
[01:33] <mayuresh> how to do NATING plz help
[01:33] <icecruncher> !patience |mayuresh
[01:33] <ubotu> mayuresh: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:33] <sonoftheclayr> richardh_: reformat a swap partition, sudo mkswap /dev/???, sudo swapon /dev/???
[01:34] <icecruncher> wow, he left fast
[01:34] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: yeah, some people have no patience i was about to google it for him and help
[01:35] <richardh_> sonoftheclay: thanks...I'll look into that...
[01:35] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: such is life...
[01:35] <icecruncher> lol
[01:35] <sonoftheclayr> richardh_: if you want to start it up at boot automatically you will need the UUID outputed by mkswap and enter it into your fstab
[01:36] <richardh_> soneoftheclayr: alright...but I still wonder how that one could have disappeared...or maybe it's just not in fstab anymore in the first place?
[01:36] <richardh_> I'll check that
[01:37] <Kasyx> Hi. I'm just about to install kubuntu, thought I'd say hi. I'm coming from Gentoo, so I'm hoping it's as easy at is sounds
[01:37] <adry90> buongiorno
[01:37] <icecruncher> Kasyx: it's pretty nice
[01:38] <jack_> hi i've got the problem that apt-get thinks there is another process open, so it stops. comes from an interrupted update.triedt apt-get -f clean, but nothing works, thanks for any help
[01:38] <icecruncher> !it | adry90
[01:38] <ubotu> adry90: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:39] <sonoftheclayr> Kasyx: if you get feisty it's easier :)
[01:39] <Kasyx> I use KDE on Gentoo just now, and there are a few apps I need to backup the data for (namely kopete) - it just a case of compying the appropriate /home/user/.kde folders?
[01:39] <icecruncher> Kasyx: yes
[01:39] <sonoftheclayr> Kasyx: yeah, i would think so
[01:40] <Kasyx> I'm having issues with my cd burner under gentoo (surprise surprise) so I can't get a new image. I've got 6.10 amd64
[01:40] <Kasyx> icecruncher: thanks
[01:40] <icecruncher> np
[01:40] <Kasyx> Thought so, but always best to check
[01:40] <Kasyx> sonoftheclayr: what's the difference between edgy and fiesty?
[01:41] <icecruncher> Kasyx: 6.1 is still the official release, feisty will be release in 9 days
[01:41] <jack_> i i've got the problem that apt-get thinks there is another process open, so it stops. comes from an interrupted update.triedt apt-get -f clean, but nothing works, thanks for any help
[01:41] <icecruncher> jack_: the best thing is to log out and back in
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[01:41] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:41] <Kasyx> icecruncher: ahh heh. Can edgy update itself to feisty?
[01:42] <sonoftheclayr> Kasyx: when it is released
[01:42] <jack_> icecruncher: i've done that no chance..
[01:42] <Kasyx> Cool
[01:42] <icecruncher> Kasyx: not quite by itself, but yes, it's possible
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> Kasyx: Yes
[01:42] <sonoftheclayr> Kasyx: or if you want it now follow the link in the topic
[01:42] <Kasyx> Is it just a kernel upgrade or something?
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> even now...
[01:42] <icecruncher> Kasyx: kernel and more
[01:42] <yilin> l
[01:42] <Kasyx> Which kernel will feisty be on?
[01:43] <icecruncher> !adeptfix > jack_
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> Kasyx: no.. there is an Xorg update, KDE update, update on everything..
[01:43] <sonoftheclayr> Kasyx: it's on 2.6.20-14 at the mo
[01:43] <Kasyx> Wow
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> Kasyx: 2.6.20
[01:43] <Kasyx> Further ahead than ~amd64 on gentoo
[01:43] <Kasyx> it's on -r6 or something I think
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> 2.6.20r6?
[01:44] <Kasyx> Ah no, just r5
[01:44] <anees> hi...i want to install emule in ubuntu...how can i do it...anybody help me plz
[01:44] <Kasyx> Yeah
[01:45] <icecruncher> anees: it''s under add remove, internet
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> 14 is just the ubuntu specific name for little bugfixed...as is r6 in gentoo
[01:45] <Kasyx> ahhh I see
[01:45] <Trunkkis> oletan, ett tl on kubuntuosaajia
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> Kasyx: as much as I'dlike to bahs gentoo here.... truth becons me other wise... ;)
[01:46] <jack_> icecruncher: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:46] <Ilokaasu> Trunkkis: #kubuntu-fi
[01:46] <jack_> it says that, but when i do that, there is a legal disclaimer from skype
[01:46] <sonoftheclayr> jack_: can you agree to the discaimer at all?
[01:46] <jack_> and i cannot agree to it by pressing enter, how can i say ok there?
[01:47] <sonoftheclayr> jack_: space?
[01:47] <jack_> sonoftheclayr: thats the prb, not by hitting enter
[01:47] <Kasyx> nosrednaekim: Heh yeah I mean I like gentoo, it's just I've never got everything working fine. Even months later I'll find something that hasn't been tweaked to working. I'm hoping kubuntu will solve that
[01:47] <jack_> sonoftheclayr:
[01:47] <jack_> trying
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> Kasyx: I hear ya
[01:49] <jack_> ok, forgot to move the cursor with the tab key..now it works thanks
[01:49] <Kasyx> Right. /home is saved. Here it goes :-)
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> Kasyx: although I have found that Kubuntu is one of the WORST KDE distros out there...
[01:49] <jack_> sonoftheclayr: and icecruncher thanks
[01:49] <Kasyx> nosrednaekim: howso?
[01:49] <icecruncher> np
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> By way of its installed programs etc..
[01:49] <Kasyx> nosrednaekim: does it install everything?
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> Kasyx: by the default programs, theme, etc
[01:50] <Kasyx> nosrednaekim: But you can change all that, no?
[01:50] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: i was wondering why you weren't dead
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> Kasyx: oh yes...all of KDE, but it doesn't install programs like firefox...
[01:50] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: not quite yet
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> uses konqueror instead
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> which I just can't stand
[01:50] <Kasyx> nosrednaekim: Oh, that's a good thing then ;-) (I don't like ff)
[01:50] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: dinner is in like 3 min
[01:50] <icecruncher> lol
[01:50] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: good to hear
[01:51] <Kasyx> I've been using konq for months now, I prefer it over opera to some extent
[01:51] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: yum, i ate like 2 hours ago
[01:51] <Kasyx> Right, I'd better go install then
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> oh yes...
[01:51] <Kasyx> See you on the flip side
[01:51] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: lunch or breakfast?
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> Kasyx: ahh... ok... are using fiesty of edgy?
[01:52] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: tea
[01:52] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: it's nearly 10pm here
[01:52] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr, more loke 7pm here lol
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> tea? is that britan's 4th meal?
[01:53] <jack_> icecruncher but can you help me with this if i am idle  my xorg cpu load goeas to 100% after a while
[01:54] <icecruncher> how so?
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> icecruncher: does it stay like that? is everything still responsive?
[01:54] <sonoftheclayr> nosrednaekim: tea? evening meal. britain? im from australia mate
[01:54] <icecruncher> nosrednaekim: me got no problems, it's jack_
[01:55] <icecruncher> jack_: can you give details?
[01:55] <jack_> nosrednaekim: it freezes and i have to restart xorg
[01:55] <icecruncher> or is that all that happnes?
[01:56] <jack_> in top the highes cpu load is always xorg, the only thins i can do is loginto a konsole session
[01:56] <icecruncher> well, of to dinner (or tea)
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> hmm... apt-get just tried to do an update, automatically
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> I'm on dial up... so I don't like it when it does such things
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> how do you stop it from every doing that again??
[02:00] <jack_> can anyone help with a nonworking mic in kubuntu?doesnt work in skype and sounrecorder, all tried
[02:02] <sonoftheclayr> jack_: you have to enable it in kmix, click on the speaker that should be in your tray then on mixer, input tab and make sure that the mic is turned on
[02:02] <binks> ok adept is complaining another app is locking database how can i clear it
[02:04] <binks> !adept
[02:04] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:05] <superman> hello
[02:05] <binks> superman: hi
[02:05] <Blue_Tiger> hi there :)
[02:06] <superman> hope you all are well.
[02:06] <superman> I need some help.
[02:06] <binks> go on!
[02:07] <Blue_Tiger> could someone give me a hint on how to set up Kubuntu to use firefox instead of konqi for links (e.g. when klicking on links in Konversation)
[02:07] <sonoftheclayr> Blue_Tiger: in system settings somewhere
[02:08] <superman> I want to install and setup beryl?
[02:08] <bronze_0_1> "precision in all things"
[02:08] <sonoftheclayr> Blue_Tiger: default applications
[02:08] <Blue_Tiger> looked there, but under "default applications" there is nothing.
[02:08] <Blue_Tiger> ie. there is a "web browser" tab, but it doesn't let me choose between the different browsers
[02:08] <Blue_Tiger> i also tried on the shell, but the settings there seem to get ignored
[02:09] <binks> superman: what ver kubuntu u on
[02:09] <superman> kubuntu 6.06.1
[02:10] <binks> !beryl
[02:10] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:10] <binks> goto ubuntu effects m8 if you were on fiesty i could help
[02:11] <sonoftheclayr> Blue_Tiger: in the default applications tab there are two options select the bottom one and type firefox into the text box under it
[02:11] <Ginja_Ninja> hello. I think i have some strange permissions problem. Example. My first user has a nice screensaver, but my second user just gets the bit white X, permissions ?
[02:12] <Blue_Tiger> sonoftheclayr: thx a bunch :)
[02:12] <sonoftheclayr> Blue_Tiger: np
[02:12] <binks> ok adept is complaining another app is locking database how can i clear it
[02:13] <Jucato> !adeptfix | binks
[02:13] <ubotu> binks: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:13] <sonoftheclayr> binks: your not running apt-get or aptitude are you?
[02:13] <binks> sonoftheclayr: no thanks
[02:14] <binks> cheers Jucato
[02:15] <superman> thanks will have a look .
[02:15] <binks> just b4 i install one whats best ftp client
[02:22] <supernix> I have a list of files that was upgradeable prior to my dist upgrade and for some reason they still show up even though the files I have are newer than the ones listed
[02:22] <supernix> is there a flush cache option in adept ?
[02:23] <sonoftheclayr> supernix: not that i know of but you can fire up konsole and try sudo apt-get autoclean
[02:23] <supernix> hmmmm ok ty
[02:24] <Ginja_Ninja>  I think i have some strange permissions problem. Example. My first user has a nice screensaver, but my second user just gets the bit white X, permissions ?
[02:24] <supernix> nice I didn't know that when you did an upgrade or install that it kept the install file
[02:25] <sonoftheclayr> Ginja_Ninja: do all the users have access to the screensaver files? are they in one users home folder or are they shares?
[02:27] <Ginja_Ninja> sonoftheclayr: They are just the default ones that come with kubuntu
[02:27] <Ginja_Ninja> sonoftheclayr: Not sure were they are stored
[02:28] <sonoftheclayr> Ginja_Ninja: hmmm, that's odd. i can't think of anything
[02:28] <Ginja_Ninja> sonoftheclayr: Thanks anyway
[02:28] <sonoftheclayr> Ginja_Ninja: we could find that out
[02:28] <Ginja_Ninja> hmmm
[02:29] <Mena> Hi
[02:30] <Ginja_Ninja> quick question if i had 5 users, how would i go about setting up a folder that all people could access? Would i put it in home called shared or something?
[02:30] <don_jr__> what's the command to restart kde from within kde? ctrl-alt-backspace?
[02:30] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: that restarts X which will restart KDE
[02:31] <don_jr__> sonoftheclayr I thought so, it's not working for me this morning.....heh
[02:31] <Mena> Why i got some prob in playing some files like .rm files although i insttaled the w32codecs
[02:31] <Ginja_Ninja> try ctrl+alt+f2 ?  Then manually stop/restart it?
[02:31] <Mena> in amrok*
[02:32] <comosicus> i don't know how to use ekiga
[02:32] <don_jr__> Ginja_Ninja yep, might do that, thanks
[02:32] <Ginja_Ninja> np
[02:32] <davidharvey> Does anybody know if the default serial port behaviour changed between edgy and feisty?  My lirc/irman setup has stopped wanting to accept half my button programmings :(
[02:33] <don_jr__> what's the command to restart x from console?  /etc/init.d/kde restart isn't working
[02:34] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: sudo killall Xorg
[02:34] <jack_> my smtp connection is refused, but not by the firewall
[02:34] <don_jr__> sonoftheclayr thanks
[02:34] <davidharvey> don_jr, did you sudo or sufirst? and its /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[02:34] <jack_> it says :Could not connect to host mail.gmx.net
[02:35] <jack_> in kmail
[02:35] <[Ag0ny] > adept and apt-get keep crashing on me after my latest update, any advice/ideas?  in the console apt-get advances only so far as "segmentation faulty tree.....50%"
[02:35] <don_jr__> sonoftheclay that didn't work, said nothing killed.  davidharvey yes I put sudo in.  I'll try again
[02:35] <comosicus> i don't know how to use ekiga
[02:35] <davidharvey> ydon_jr you wrote on here init.d/kde rather than kdm too
[02:36] <sonoftheclayr> comosicus: try #ubuntu, they might be able to help more
[02:36] <comosicus> did it
[02:37] <comosicus> but same thing...nobody knows
[02:37] <don> THanks, that did it, it's kdm, not kde  I wrote it down wrong!
[02:37] <davidharvey> no worries
[02:37] <don_jr__> how can I make alias' in konversation?
[02:37] <comosicus> don?!!!!!!!!
[02:38] <don_jr__> comosicus yes?
[02:38] <Jucato> don_jr__: Settings -> Configure -> Command Aliases?
[02:38] <Jucato> (or Auto Replace, take your pick)
[02:38] <supernix> !samba
[02:38] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:38] <Jucato> !away > icecruncher
[02:38] <don_jr__> Auto Replace?
[02:39] <icecruncher> lol
[02:40] <comosicus>  THanks, that did it, it's kdm, not kde  I wrote it down wrong!.....that wos for me......what it means kdm?!!!
[02:40] <davidharvey> KDe Daemon
[02:40] <Jucato> KDM = KDE Display Manager
[02:40] <davidharvey> doh, my mistake
[02:40] <Jucato> !info kdm
[02:40] <comosicus> aaaaa
[02:41] <don_jr__> comosicus I wasn't talking to you directly at that particular moment, I was speaking of a mistake I made earlier, I was doing it with kde restart, davidharvey pointed out it was kdM, so I had it wrote down wrong.
[02:41] <voicu> hi, how do i copy a file from a computer i'm remotely connected to? (through ssh)
[02:41] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr, adept is taking forever with the update, can I change the mirror where it's downloading from?
[02:41] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4 (edgy), package size 612 kB, installed size 1480 kB
[02:41] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: yeah i think so
[02:41] <davidharvey> it manages incoming network logins for GUI logins as well as your local one
[02:41] <don_jr__> Jucato what did you mean, auto replace? I"m new to konversation.
[02:41] <comosicus> sory....my mistake
[02:42] <voicu> except setting a ftp or something
[02:42] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: any idea how?
[02:42] <Jucato> don_jr__: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Auto Replace. but you were probably looking for Command Aliases anyway
[02:42] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: not really
[02:42] <icecruncher> k
[02:42] <Jucato> Auto Replace = automatically replaces text without having to use /something
[02:43] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: what are you updateing?
[02:43] <don_jr__> Jucato yes, tired of typing in everything when I register, was gonna make an alias to handle it for me.
[02:43] <icecruncher> to edgy
[02:43] <don_jr__> OMG, how do I global connect kopete? I can't find a 'connect' button anywhere....
[02:44] <Jucato> don_jr__: command aliases then. but you could also do Settings -> Identity -> and fill in the fields for Auto Identify
[02:44] <Jucato> don_jr__: the first icon to the left in the toolbar
[02:44] <Jucato> Set Status icon, click and hold down
[02:44] <icecruncher> Jucato do you by chance know how to change the mirror where you are downloading updates from?
[02:44] <Ash-Fox> Wow, this is horrible, beyond the themes in in feisty, I can't really see any differences between edgy (with latest kde repositories for kubuntu) and feisty.
[02:45] <don_jr__> first icon to the left in the toolbar???
[02:45] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: there actually isn't much
[02:45] <don_jr__> Okay, got kopete online...thanks...I feel like such an idiot this morning.....
[02:45] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, kind of suprised to be honest.
[02:45] <Jucato> don_jr__: the main toolbar in Kopete. when you hover over that icon, it says Set Status
[02:45] <don_jr__> Jucato thanks, sorry...my brain is slow this morning...sheesh
[02:46] <Ash-Fox> I thought there was going to be a device manager, but I don't see that either.
[02:46] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: main changes would be a different widget style (Polyester instead of Plastik), new logo on usplash, login screen, and splash screen
[02:46] <[Ag0ny] > can anybody help me? apt-get fails while building dependency tree, citing segmentation fault
[02:46] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: what new device manager? there were no such plans
[02:47] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: oh my bad. I thought you were saying there weren't much changes with regards to themes
[02:47] <Jucato> er "look and feel"
[02:47] <sonoftheclayr> feisty is easier and faster
[02:47] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, mentioned here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverEducation
[02:47] <Jucato> that's one.
[02:48] <Jucato> of course, new default KDE, new kernel, mostly newer packages
[02:48] <Jucato> yes, that is for Ubuntu, not Kubuntu
[02:48] <ubuntu> Hi all. Sorry for cold call, but does anyone know how to manually bootstrap a Kubuntu Feisty beta install? What I mean is ...
[02:48] <Jucato> !info restricted-manager feisty
[02:48] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.18 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 316 kB
[02:49] <Ash-Fox> !install
[02:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:49] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: that one ^^^
[02:49] <don_jr__> Okay, I have firefox installed, how do I get it to recognize the flashplayer 9 I downloaded yesterday?
[02:49] <icecruncher> k, anybody know how to change the country where you download from(the updates)?
[02:49] <ubuntu> I'm on a new machine, booted with CD, KDE starts, then get a message "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly", and no installer stuff shows or anything.
[02:49] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, ah, I'll look into it :)
[02:49] <ubuntu> However, machine seems to be running, and network works.
[02:49] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: you have to put the flash player library in the plugins folder in the firefox directory
[02:49] <ubuntu> (obviously)
[02:50] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: unfortunately, it's dependent on Synaptic, so you won't be seeing it on Kubuntu Feisty
[02:50] <ubuntu> IOW, is there a single command I can invoke to re-start the installation process (from inside a konsole, say?)
[02:50] <don_jr__> sonoftheclayr which directory is the flash player library? lol I do locate flash and there's alot!
[02:51] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: did you download the tarball from adobe's website?
[02:51] <don_jr__> sonoftheclayr no I downloaded the package from edgy-backports
[02:51] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: you think it's wise by just fiddling with the repo sources in adept manager?
[02:51] <Jucato> it should automatically be detected by firefox
[02:52] <Jucato> icecruncher: fiddling with the repos in adept manager is the same as fiddling with it in a text editor
[02:52] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: it creates backups doesn't it? provided you know what you're doing
[02:52] <icecruncher> Jucato: true
[02:52] <Jucato> you can just change the us. to some other mirrors
[02:52] <Jucato> sonoftheclayr: doesn't create backups
[02:52] <icecruncher> ya, which i'm not entirely sure
[02:52] <sonoftheclayr> don't change it to au.archive.ubuntu.com because i can never connect to it!
[02:52] <Jucato> but *you* should make backups anyway
[02:53] <icecruncher> well i wont
[02:53] <davidharvey> icecruncher:  if you are concerned about changing your sources, back up your original to your homedir or something bp "cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/"
[02:53] <vilius93> hello
[02:53] <[Ag0ny] > can anybody help me with apt-get? it's so broken that I can't update, install anything and dpkg shows everything being fine
[02:53] <vilius93> Kubuntu dvd edition is same with CD edition?
[02:54] <sonoftheclayr> vilius93: only with heaps of extra packages
[02:54] <Jucato> [Ag0ny] : how is it broken?
[02:54] <don_jr__> Jucato it doesn't just automatically catch it, I've found where the file libs are for the newer flash, but I don't know how to tell firefox to look thre
[02:54] <Jucato> don_jr__: what does about:plugins say?
[02:54] <[Ag0ny] > while building depenedency tree it segfaults
[02:55] <[Ag0ny] > no matter what I do, it segfaults at a 50% build of the dependency tree
[02:55] <don_jr__> Jucato I figured it out.  I have 2 versions of firefox installed......found the updated one.  shesh I'm a dope today
[02:55] <Jucato> :)
[02:55] <icecruncher> anyway, found my mirror, hope it goes faster now
[02:56] <[Ag0ny] > Jucato, any ideas?
[02:56] <Jucato> hm... nope... :(
[02:56] <vilius93> later
[02:56] <[Ag0ny] > is there any way of forcing apt-get to reinstall something while ignoring the dependency tree?
[02:59] <gone|win> does fawn include pidgin?
[03:02] <sonoftheclayr> gone|win: not kubuntu
[03:03] <Jucato> gone|win: it has GAIM (for now)
[03:03] <oofman> need some help with installing jedit
[03:04] <oofman> basicly first time user, and have no idea what i'm doing
[03:04] <ian2> how would i set up a folder that was directly between users. Ie, the shared folder does not reside on either users space ????
[03:04] <Kasyx> Does kubuntu not detect wireless connections?
[03:05] <sonoftheclayr> Kasyx: yes and no, but no
[03:05] <Jucato> !info jedit
[03:05] <ubotu> Package jedit does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[03:06] <cskj> hi guys i'm having a problem in kopete
[03:06] <oofman> is there a nother decint editor like jedit ?
[03:06] <cskj> my sign in name is showing funny characters instead of what t's supposed to be in the chat windows
[03:06] <cskj> why do u think this is??
[03:07] <Kasyx> cskj: is your sign in name unicode?
[03:07] <smoalne> hello
[03:07] <cskj> nope
[03:08] <cskj> it's just basic characters
[03:08] <cskj> $+@$%
[03:08] <cskj> these things
[03:09] <Kasyx> hmm
[03:09] <Kasyx> I don't know then I'm afraid
[03:09] <Kasyx> I'd ask on #kopete
[03:12] <sivaji> i had swap partition ,but now i deleted that is it needed for 256mb ram
[03:12] <cskj> ok thanx
[03:19] <icecruncher> !upgrade > icecruncher
[03:21] <kiwi__> how do i partition the hard drive?
[03:21] <icecruncher> !partition | kiwi__
[03:21] <ubotu> kiwi__: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:23] <gorski> i lost my menu-panel on KDE. How to recuperate?
[03:24] <apricot> my computer blocks when i log off after root session in kde.
[03:24] <Jucato> gorski: press Alt+F2, type in "kicker"
[03:25] <gorski> i deinstalled kicker.
[03:26] <gorski> kickoff
[03:26] <Jucato> er, then reinstall kicker
[03:26] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install kicker
[03:26] <kiwi__> i need some help with dual boot
[03:26] <gorski> ok
[03:26] <kiwi__> first step is to partition the hard drive rite?
[03:26] <wilykat> gorski, if you open up a konsole with alt-F2 run konsole
[03:27] <wilykat> sudo apt-get install kicker
[03:27] <apricot> my computer blocks when i log off after root session in kde.
[03:28] <kiwi__> ive tried sudo gparted and sudo qtparted
[03:28] <kiwi__> wont work
[03:28] <icecruncher> kiwi__: windows?
[03:28] <kiwi__> yes
[03:28] <icecruncher> !grub | kiwi__
[03:28] <ubotu> kiwi__: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:28] <dromer> n a console, how can I see how big a certain folder is? like, how many files/folders and what size it contains?
[03:30] <icecruncher> dromer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:30] <kiwi__> i dont need grub i already have it
[03:30] <kiwi__> i havnt installed windows yet
[03:30] <don_jr__> What's a good mp3 player for kubuntu?
[03:30] <icecruncher> kiwi__: wo what is the problem?
[03:30] <icecruncher> *so
[03:31] <kiwi__> i need steps on dual boot
[03:31] <icecruncher> !dualboot | kiwi__
[03:31] <ubotu> kiwi__: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:31] <kiwi__> first thing im tryin is to partition the hard drive
[03:31] <dromer> thnx icecruncher
[03:33] <luciano56> c' qualche italiano?
[03:33] <icecruncher> !it | luciano56
[03:33] <ubotu> luciano56: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:34] <ebovine> Does anyone have a solution for hot-plugging a second monitor/projector into a laptop on edgy?
[03:34] <luciano56> ok thank you very much bye
[03:34] <icecruncher> luciano56 your welcome
[03:35] <XtaZy> what is the default user/pass on the feisty livecd?
[03:35] <icecruncher> XtaZy: I don't think there is one, otherwise try google it
[03:35] <Jucato> XtaZy: user name = ubuntu. password = blank
[03:36] <Jucato> as in blank password
[03:36] <don_jr__> Where is the executable file that runs amarok?
[03:36] <icecruncher> thanks Jucato
[03:36] <icecruncher> lol
[03:36] <wilykat> type whereis amarok or maybe amarokapp
[03:36] <XtaZy> so in kubuntu its kubuntu/blank ?
[03:36] <wilykat> davidharvey@gremlinstew:~$ whereis amarok
[03:36] <wilykat> amarok: /usr/bin/amarok /usr/lib/amarok /usr/bin/X11/amarok /usr/share/man/man1/amarok.1.gz
[03:37] <ninHer> hi all
[03:37] <icecruncher> hi
[03:37] <don_jr__> wilykat thanks
[03:37] <chx> hi. amarok eats more resources than I could afford and really I do not need anything fancy, just an app which is able to play a few MP3s and have a global shortcut for next , previous, play, pause. Any suggestions?
[03:37] <wilykat> no probs
[03:37] <wilykat> chx: vlc?
[03:38] <icecruncher> vlc's great!
[03:38] <wilykat> haven't used it much myself but is quite powerful and can be quite minimul too
[03:38] <chx> wilykat: may be. never used that.
[03:38] <chx> ok, let me see that.
[03:38] <dromer> damnit, somehow I excidentally deleted all the mp3 in a folder (all subfalders are still intact), I was using konqueror and deleting 2 files called Album_Art_*
[03:39] <icecruncher> dromer, trash can
[03:39] <Jucato> icecruncher: and in 1-2 weeks you'll be upgrading to feisty? :D
[03:39] <chx> icecruncher: wow. not to desperate you but Feisty is around the corner :)
[03:39] <dromer> I deleted these two files with shift+del though .. is there any way I could retreive all these deleted files? (over 20gb o.O)
[03:39] <icecruncher> Jucato: no not yet, maybe in a month
[03:39] <Jucato> unfortunately... no
[03:39] <chx> dromer: ext3 is known to be notoriously bad for undelete purposes
[03:40] <dromer> it's so strange that all my mp3 in all these subfolders (lots where in folders above the folder I was working in) got deleted :S
[03:40] <icecruncher> chx: hey jsut had a system crash, had to reinstall everything yesterday
[03:40] <icecruncher> *just
[03:40] <icecruncher> 4 mins
[03:40] <chx> dromer: over 20Gbyte files, it's not likely even a cleanroom HDD company would be able to restore that.
[03:40] <dromer> damnit :(  it's so strange that all the folders are still intact .. I have NO idea wtf happened
[03:41] <icecruncher> !language > dromer
[03:41] <dromer> I just selected the two files I wanted gone pressed shift+delete and konqueror started deleting everything, pressed stop as fast as I could and now all the mp3 in all the subfolders are gone :S
[03:41] <dromer> sorry icecruncher
[03:41] <icecruncher> np
[03:42] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: I am almost done with the update, had to swictch to thailand from australia. lol
[03:42] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: hahaha
[03:43] <geggam> LeeJunFan, u alive ?
[03:44] <chx> wilykat: good shot.
[03:44] <chx> wilykat: very nice. now, how do I get global shortcuts? this is not a KDE app.
[03:51] <mips> Anyone here installed Feisty ?
[03:51] <LeeJunFan> geggam: you still there? what's up?
[03:51] <sonoftheclayr> mips: yeah
[03:52] <ian2> i want to be able to have a directory between users that everyone can share. Create folder as root and create a shared group or something. Whats the best way ?
[03:52] <mips> sonoftheclayr, did you have gfx issues on bootup ? My display is all garbled junk
[03:52] <sonoftheclayr> mips: no, everything went smoothly
[03:55] <geggam> i was gonna ask if u made beryl run under a higher priority and i then remembered u used schedutils... after looking i realized that simply renicing the process was really all one needed to do LeeJunFan
[03:55] <geggam> i reniced it to -15 and beryl is flat smooth now
[03:56] <LeeJunFan> geggam: cool, I don't really need to mess with the beryl process, simply setting the prio on X seems to be the trick for me.
[03:56] <geggam> right
[03:56] <geggam> same here
[03:57] <geggam> they should incorporate that into beryl ... renicing it to about -15 makes it really really smooth LeeJunFan
[03:57] <Mena> HI, is there a way to lock a folder with password on kubuntu
[03:58] <Mena> hem ?
[03:59] <[Ag0ny] > I have a broken apt-get / adept, can somebody help?
[03:59] <Mena> !adeptfix
[03:59] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:59] <[Ag0ny] > nothing as simple as that I'm afraid
[04:00] <Mena> [Ag0ny] , this should fix any lock or any crash on adept
[04:01] <[Ag0ny] > Mena, done it already, and when apt-get builds dependency tree it gives a segfault at 50%
[04:01] <sonoftheclayr> yay! it's tomorrow!
[04:02] <Mena> [Ag0ny] , hmmm
[04:02] <[Ag0ny] > Mena, would you like to see the backtrace of adept crashing?
[04:02] <Mena> [Ag0ny] , i am not very experience
[04:02] <Mena> [Ag0ny] , myabe some one else would help
[04:02] <Mena> [Ag0ny] , sorry :)
[04:02] <[Ag0ny] > not your fault
[04:03] <Mena> ok
[04:03] <Mena> Bye
[04:04] <sonoftheclayr> [Ag0ny] : are you able to use dpkg?
[04:04] <[Ag0ny] > yes
[04:05] <[Ag0ny] > sonoftheclayr, any ideas?
[04:05] <[Ag0ny] > tried flushing with dpkg still no dice
[04:06] <sonoftheclayr> [Ag0ny] : no ideas, not yet anyway
[04:09] <sonoftheclayr> [Ag0ny] : sudo rm /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin && sudo rm /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin
[04:11] <[Ag0ny] > sonoftheclayr, already cleared the cache
[04:12] <sonoftheclayr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2020462 [Ag0ny]  checked out this thread?
[04:12] <sonoftheclayr> [Ag0ny] : do you have wpasupplicant installed?
[04:13] <[Ag0ny] > no
[04:13] <sonoftheclayr> [Ag0ny] : okay, more trawling of the net
[04:13] <ian2> how do i make a folder only accessable by certain users?
[04:13] <[Ag0ny] > chmod it
[04:28] <Resister> lalalalala
[04:30] <Resister> pizda
[04:31] <cyt> Hi all, will a Feisty RC be released?
[04:32] <fdoving> cyt: i belive there will be RC isos as usual. a few days before release.
[04:34] <anniee> any way to get SB x-fi to work in kubuntu?
[04:34] <cyt> fdoving: Thx :)
[04:36] <Beatsake> hello
[04:37] <don_jr__> how do I use a .bin file?
[04:38] <geggam> chmod +x file.bin
[04:38] <fdoving> don_jr__: usually, chmod +x file.bin and ./file.bin
[04:38] <geggam> ./file.bin
[04:38] <geggam> k
[04:38] <fdoving> :)
[04:38] <geggam> ill be quiet now
[04:38] <geggam> :)
[04:38] <fdoving> no, don't
[04:38] <fdoving> i'm going for dinner :)
[04:38] <geggam> i have work
[04:38] <don_jr__> geggam thanks
[04:39] <don_jr__> trying to get java set up for firefox
[04:39] <Resister> hi irc is kinda new to me.. which command do I have to use to send a password and a nickname?
[04:39] <ks3> anyone know how i can prevent system settings from changing my .fonts.conf file?
[04:39] <don_jr__> Resister /msg nickserv register <password>  Will register the nick you are using now
[04:39] <Resister> don_jr,, ty :D
[04:39] <geggam> don_jr__,
[04:40] <geggam> apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[04:40] <geggam> issue solved
[04:40] <don_jr__> thanks, was just about to check apt-get before I downloaded the .bin file, now I know exactly what I need.....amarok sux, when it's open I can't open anything else, have to shut off amarok, open what I need, then restart amarok...lol
[04:41] <Resister> @don_jr anything better then windblows media player lol :P
[04:41] <don_jr__> Resister I guess on that, I just changed over to linux, still learning alot and trying to get things setup the way I want them.
[04:42] <don_jr__> only major drawback I've found(and did know ahead of time) is gaming...I can't get wine to work to save my life...lol
[04:43] <Resister> yep, but the disadvantage of most distributives is that you have to do a lot by hand... but when you have something running once, it runs perfectly
[04:43] <Resister> @don_jr: don you need cedega to run games on linux?
[04:43] <don_jr__> Resister yeah I havn't had any major problems yet, and all the problems I've run into, someone in here has been able to help me figure out, so I"m pleased thus far.
[04:44] <don_jr__> Resister the folks over at #winehq say I don't have to have it, it's just going to take a bit more work to get some of them to run.
[04:44] <Resister> ok :)
[04:45] <Resister> @don_jr what country are you from, if I may ask? I'm from the Netherlands
[04:46] <don_jr__> Okay geggam I used the script file to install the latest firefox, not using the normal apt-get firefox...would you be able to tell me how to get it to recognize the fact that I just installed java? lol
[04:46] <geggam> restart firefox
[04:46] <geggam> then put in the address bar "about:plugins"
[04:46] <geggam> no quotes
[04:46] <geggam> tell me if it is already
[04:47] <Resister>   
[04:47] <don_jr__> geggam okay, restarting it now
[04:47] <apokryphos> !nl
[04:47] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[04:48] <geggam> !ru
[04:48] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[04:48] <don_jr__> geggam nope, it's not showing there, only flash and future splash show
[04:50] <geggam> ok
[04:50] <geggam> cd to /home/$yourlogin/.mozilla
[04:50] <don_jr__> the site says I need to make a symbolic link to the acctuall java file in the plugins folder....I don't know how to do that! lol
[04:51] <geggam> u have a console open ?
[04:51] <geggam> cd ~/.mozillla/plugins
[04:51] <don_jr__> doing now
[04:51] <geggam> ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so .
[04:51] <intelikey> l*3
[04:51] <don_jr__> geggam no such file or directory...heh
[04:52] <don_jr__> I found the plugins folder
[04:52] <geggam> erm
[04:52] <geggam> i had 3 l's
[04:53] <don_jr__> 3 L's where??
[04:53] <don_jr__> oh
[04:53] <geggam> 3 l's is a typo
[04:54] <don_jr__> that isn't the way mine is installed anyways, my firefox is installed under /opt/firefox/plugins
[04:54] <geggam> if u do it in your home and u change firefox to something else it will still work
[04:54] <don_jr__> I just created it, now to see if it worked
[04:55] <don_jr__> I got the right folder or whatever it took, it's working!  Thank you very much geggam
[04:55] <geggam> good
[04:55] <geggam> later
[04:59] <intelikey> anyone know a source of "real" modems ?
[05:00] <intelikey> or anyone know a brand of pci modem that are not winmodems ?
[05:01] <eeanm> thats an old-school question intelikey :)
[05:04] <don_jr__> any mudders in here?
[05:06] <compilerwriter> don_jr I sort of am a mudder though not much of late.
[05:06] <intelikey> sorry  ?
[05:06] <geggam> intelikey, get a courier v everything external or some internal us robotics
[05:06] <geggam> k delivery here
[05:06] <stevethepirate> hello all.
[05:06] <MK_Mike> when is the next ubuntu release, i want to mark it on canander?
[05:07] <intelikey> geggam k.       ty.
[05:07] <stevethepirate> 19 april
[05:07] <stevethepirate> me thinks
[05:07] <MK_Mike> thanks
[05:07] <Jucato> MK_Mike: target is April 19
[05:07] <Jucato> but can be a bit later
[05:08] <don_jr__> compilerwriter I was just gonna see if anyone had any suggestions as to a decent client for kubuntu
[05:08] <compilerwriter> Jucato:  Is feisty safe enough that if I back up well I can rest assured it won't totally crap out my system.
[05:08] <compilerwriter> don_jr__ mmucl
[05:08] <Jucato> compilerwriter: still on beta, so the usual warning still apply
[05:08] <stevethepirate> Mmm.. how do i kill the xserver? I need to install this nvidia driver...
[05:08] <don_jr__> alrighty, I'll look into it, thank you
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> does kubuntu do cpu frequency scaling on amd64 cpus automatically?
[05:09] <stevethepirate> Jucato: its running fine on about 50 pc's up at campus..
[05:09] <intelikey> !nv | stevethepirate
[05:09] <ubotu> stevethepirate: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:09] <compilerwriter> Jucato I was hoping it was in very stable beta.
[05:09] <stevethepirate> lol.
[05:09] <Jucato> !worksforme
[05:09] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:09] <stevethepirate> i've got them. (the .run file) just need to know howto kill x.
[05:10] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:10] <Jucato> stevethepirate: Ctrl+Alt+F1, then the command Daisuke_Ido gave
[05:10] <stevethepirate> okay.
[05:10] <stevethepirate> thanks
[05:10] <intelikey> or invoke-rc.d
[05:10] <stevethepirate> and to start?
[05:10] <stevethepirate> the same with start at the end?
[05:10] <Daisuke_Ido> replace stop with start :)
[05:10] <stevethepirate> ya. thought so..
[05:10] <stevethepirate> thanks
[05:11] <stevethepirate> brb
[05:11] <MK_Mike> anyone know whats gonna be in the new release?
[05:11] <stevethepirate> stuff
[05:11] <intelikey> the names are the same only the faces have changed....
[05:11] <Daisuke_Ido> mt pc is slightly louder than i like, which is fine when i'm working, but when i'm trying to sleep, i'd really like to let it run, just...  more quietly.  time to figure out frequency and fan control :)
[05:12] <Jucato> MK_Mike: you can see the previous Beta and Herd 1-5 release announcements for the new features
[05:14] <marcos> ,..
[05:15] <zak_> how do i make packages like eclipse use the sun JRE instead of gij?
[05:16] <intelikey> man update-alternatives
[05:16] <zak_> i have sun-java6-jre [or whatever it's called]  and friends... but i can't work out how to re-install eclipse to use it
[05:17] <Jucato> zak_: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:17] <zak_> ah thanks Jucato
[05:18] <hak5fan> Hello. For some time now I have expirienced a somewhat strange problem when I boot up kubuntu. I'm dropped to tty1 when the machine is booted allthough kdm is running I have to swich to that virtual desktop with ctrl + alt + f7 In order to get to the graphical login screen. Why is this happening?
[05:18] <kkerwin> Hi. For some reason, by /usr partition was automatically mounted read-only for even root, and it cannot be remounted rw. This has happened three days running. Anyone know how I can remount it rw without having to reboot (mount -w /usr and mount -a don't work), and also what is going on to cause the problem in the first place?
[05:21] <intelikey> kkerwin could be failing fsck ?    could be set ro in /etc/fstab ?    at any rate    sudo mount -o remount,rw /usr     should work.
[05:22] <kkerwin> intelikey: mount: block device /dev/disk/by-uuid/421679a2-333b-4fb5-9d6c-0f2ea72d3c3a is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> i've seen three different daemons that appear to do the same thing - powernowd, cpufreqd, and cpudyn.  powernowd is installed by default, is there any reason to use any of the others?
[05:22] <anti_pop> my K-Menu doesnt add fresh installed stuff, why is that ?
[05:23] <intelikey> hak5fan is kdm set to give you a console login?   (i refuse to use the convoluted "kdm" it writes in /root)
[05:23] <kkerwin> intelikey: Problem with the drive?
[05:23] <intelikey> anti_pop don't know what you installed...   sudo update-menus
[05:24] <hak5fan> intelikey: I don't know what it's set to. How do I change it?
[05:24] <intelikey> kkerwin fsck /dev/disk/by-uuid/421679a2-333b-4fb5-9d6c-0f2ea72d3c3a
[05:24] <woo> i need filemanager as far at win, it exist?
[05:24] <anti_pop> i installed package: kdegames.. sudo: update-menus: command not found
[05:24] <kkerwin> intelikey: Do I need to unmount first?
[05:24] <intelikey> hak5fan look in the kdm menu
[05:24] <intelikey> kkerwin no.  it's mounted ro.
[05:24] <hak5fan> intelikey:
[05:24] <hak5fan> ok
[05:24] <kkerwin> intelikey: K. Just playing it safe. Thanks.
[05:24] <Daisuke_Ido> woo: ...what?
[05:25] <intelikey> anti_pop mmmm ....   install menu  and run it    :)
[05:26] <Yorokobi> !ru | woo
[05:26] <ubotu> woo:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[05:26] <intelikey> anti_pop but kde-games should show in your kmenu without "menu" installed
[05:26] <anti_pop> did it, no success
[05:26] <seb_> helo ya des fransais ici ?
[05:27] <anti_pop> intelikey: yup, but it doesnt here
[05:27] <kkerwin> !fr | seb_
[05:27] <ubotu> seb_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:27] <intelikey> anti_pop what release ?
[05:27] <anti_pop> intelikey: feisty, should i go in #ubuntu+1 ?
[05:27] <intelikey> yeah prolly.
[05:27] <anti_pop> /jon #ubuntu+1
[05:28] <intelikey> /join #ubuntu+1
[05:28] <intelikey> some clients accept   /j ubuntu+1
[05:28] <intelikey> some don't
[05:28] <anti_pop> was a typo
[05:29] <anti_pop> intelikey is it possible to reset the menu somehow ?
[05:30] <Yorokobi> anti_pop, you could try kappfinder, perhaps
[05:30] <anti_pop> already did
[05:30] <anti_pop> will add some stuff but nothing i need or miss
[05:30] <kkerwin> intelikey: Rebooting. Hopefully that did it.
[05:30] <anti_pop> ill restart x, maybe that will do it
[05:31] <danny500> yo
[05:31] <danny500> big problem
[05:31] <blekos> hi, there's supposed to be a pre-installed option for having 3d desktop etc, any idea?
[05:31] <carl__> is there some way I can view a kernel boot log other than the one I'm currently running?
[05:31] <danny500> some of my programs won't work at all
[05:31] <intelikey> anti_pop ummm reset as in remove customizations yes.   i think it's in ~/.kde/apps/config/kicker*   not sure.
[05:32] <danny500> Hi Jucato
[05:32] <cntb> lokder ?
[05:32] <cntb> !ping lokder
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping lokder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Jucato> yo danny500!
[05:33] <hak5fan> intelikey: I've looked all over the kdm menu and it doesn't say anything about wheter or not to give me a console login
[05:33] <intelikey> Filthpig look in /var/log/
[05:33] <danny500> been a while lol whats up man
[05:33] <Mena> Hi
[05:34] <Jucato> danny500: doing ok. about to hit the sack :)
[05:34] <intelikey> Jucato can you point hak5fan at the option for "terminal login" kdm    ?
[05:34] <Jucato> hak5fan: Console Login?
[05:34] <danny500> Jucato: I have a problem getting some programs working, I try opening them and nothing happens, I've installed them, uninstalled, and reinstalled them and I don't know what else to do
[05:34] <Mena> i have a file for an onine listenning ans when i put it on amrok it dont play...any idea
[05:34] <Mena> and*
[05:34] <intelikey> Jucato yes he's getting dumpped into console  but kdm is running.
[05:34] <Jucato> danny500: have  you tried starting them from Konsole to see if you get error messages?
[05:34] <Mena> its .ram file
[05:34] <danny500> hold on
[05:35] <danny500> brb
[05:35] <Daisuke_Ido> Mena: do you have a codec for realaudio installed?
[05:35] <hak5fan> Jucato: I want to set the default login meathod to gui login... As of now it drops me to a shell and then I use ctrl + alt + f7 to get to the gui
[05:35] <Jucato> is it real media?
[05:35] <Jucato> hak5fan: laptop or desktop?
[05:36] <hak5fan> desktop
[05:36] <Filthpig> hmm
[05:36] <danny500> is it real media?  you talking to me?
[05:36] <Jucato> hm.. strange... I seem to be getting that on a  new edgy install on a laptop... did you install Kubuntu normally?
[05:36] <Filthpig> I have a slight problem. All of a sudden neither Opera or Ark will run
[05:36] <danny500> nm
[05:36] <hak5fan> Jucato: yes I did
[05:37] <_dennis_> Jucato: yes, Opera doesn't run anymore afther the latest dist upgrade, it's a bug
[05:37] <Mena> Daisuke_Ido, yes
[05:37] <Mena> Daisuke_Ido, w32
[05:37] <Mena> codecs
[05:37] <danny500> ok I'm back
[05:38] <danny500> I tried opening it in terminal and got this
[05:38] <danny500> oops
[05:38] <hak5fan> Jucato: Here Is a guide I followed that might have screwed up things. It's about Installing g15 support in linux.. It's the visudo thing I'm thinking of. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267118
[05:38] <Filthpig> _dennis_: but I'm still running kernel 20-13-generic, as I have for a while now. Kernel 20-14 won't boot, gives something about ext3 mount error, kernel panic, attempting to kill init and stops
[05:38] <danny500> rtrying to create local folder /home/danny500/.kde/socket-Netkiller: Permission
[05:38] <Mena> Daisuke_Ido, when i open it on kmplayer it working
[05:38] <Daisuke_Ido> then amarok can't handle the stream
[05:38] <danny500> Could not bind to socket '/home/danny500/.kde/socket-Netkiller/kdeinit__0'
[05:39] <danny500> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.
[05:39] <danny500> so whats wrong?
[05:39] <Jucato> er.. hm... :(
[05:40] <danny500> theres all ways something wrong with Linux, well at least it gives me something to do lol
[05:40] <_dennis_> Filthpig: hmm, sry i have no idea, i'm a newbie myself
[05:40] <brosioz> excuse me when will be release faisty ???
[05:40] <brosioz> the date exists ?
[05:40] <danny500> I always get a different set of problems with each new Ubuntu installation lol
[05:40] <Jucato> brosioz: target date April 19. may be a later
[05:41] <Mena> Daisuke_Ido, ok
[05:41] <Daisuke_Ido> of course, realaudio is a format about a decade past its prime :\
[05:41] <Bluesaway> brosioz, April 19
[05:41] <Mena> yes ok
[05:41] <danny500> oh another thing, my Linux has mixxed up the location of my disc drives
[05:42] <Jucato> hak5fan: sorry, really not sure what's happening here :(
[05:42] <danny500> It thinks that my burner is just a reader and my reader is a burner
[05:42] <Mena> Daisuke_Ido, Thanks
[05:42] <Mena> bye
[05:42] <danny500> I'm going to take it out back and shoot it
[05:42] <danny500> brb
[05:42] <danny500> lol
[05:42] <brosioz> Bluesaway: Jucato thx
[05:43] <danny500> wait a minute
[05:43] <danny500> does anyone know anything about DCOP communication?
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> poor ol' yeller :(
[05:43] <Jucato> danny500: is dcopserver running?
[05:44] <danny500> cause it's complaining about that so if I fix that it might work
[05:44] <danny500> I don't know
[05:44] <danny500> how do I check?
[05:44] <Jucato> Ctrl+Esc :)
[05:44] <danny500> nothing happened
[05:44] <gdiebel> alt+f2 and type kdcop
[05:45] <intelikey> danny500 if you get it all fixed and do;    sudo passwd -dl root ;echo '' | sudo tee /etc/sudoers    you'll stop having new problems            NOTE.  cause you wont be able to do anything admin'ish   :)
[05:45] <Jucato> gdiebel: that only runs kdcop
[05:45] <Jucato> danny500: the Process Table up didn't show up?
[05:45] <intelikey> the more you play as uid=0 the more chance of issues.
[05:46] <danny500> I typed kdcop
[05:46] <danny500> it said can't connect to x server
[05:46] <Jucato> hm... what have you done... :/
[05:47] <danny500> uh oh
[05:48] <danny500> how do I get it back/
[05:48] <stevethepirate> that was a cockup... nvidia drivers crashed my x11 conf file..
[05:48] <stevethepirate> *sigh*
[05:48] <danny500> Jucato, I'm emailing you what I just got
[05:48] <danny500> check gmail
[05:49] <Jucato> danny500: um.. I'm about to go to bed :(
[05:49] <stevethepirate> Whats a good linux dc++ client? apart from valknut..
[05:49] <aeergalus> ayuda por favor
[05:49] <danny500> sent it
[05:49] <stevethepirate> anyone?
[05:50] <aaroncampbell> Where can I go to see if my card needs nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?
[05:50] <intelikey> !nv | aaroncampbell
[05:50] <ubotu> aaroncampbell: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:50] <intelikey> that page should have a link
[05:51] <aaroncampbell> intelikey: I've been through most of those, but I'll go check again.  They all talked about nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy, but not the new nvidia-glx-new
[05:53] <intelikey> aaroncampbell ah yes it's seems you are right....   sorry for the blank help.
[05:55] <intelikey> hmmm here's what happens if you rm root from /etc/passwd   user@localhost# sudo echo yes
[05:55] <intelikey> sudo: no passwd entry for root!
[05:55] <intelikey> sendmail: fatal: chdir /var/spool/postfix: No such file or directory
[05:55] <intelikey> oh the last is not related   sorry.
[05:59] <jhutchins> intelikey: Anything particular you were trying to accomplish by removing root, or was it a random experiment?
[05:59] <intelikey> jhutchins yeah.
[06:00] <the_hammer> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.17-11-generic |  Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz 2047.968 MHz | Bogomips: 8195.79 | Mem: 847/1011M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 72.29G Free: 62.81G | Procs: 99 | Uptime: 20 mins 35 secs | Load: 0.21 0.37 0.32  | Vpenis: 64.2 cm | Screen: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0392 (rev a1) @ 1024x768 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 117.66M Out: 3.21M
[06:00] <mrigns> Sysinfo for 'mrigns-desktop': Linux 2.6.20-14-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz at 1867 MHz (3724 bogomips), HD: 59/227GB, RAM: 1974/2026MB, 144 proc's, 4.4d up
[06:03] <jhutchins> intelikey: Got it fixed now?
[06:03] <anti_pop> is it safe to use kleansweep ? it found more than 1 gig "waste" ??
[06:04] <jhutchins> !info kleansweep
[06:04] <ubotu> kleansweep: File cleaner for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 131 kB, installed size 448 kB
[06:04] <intelikey> i really don't much like ubuntu's dpkg   cause there are so many errors in the  prerm and postinst  scripts.  it keep the package database messed up...
[06:04] <intelikey> jhutchins sure.   weren't nothin.
[06:06] <hak5fan> Jucato: I'll ask my question on LQ or something then
[06:06] <yaccin|laptop> !w32codecs
[06:06] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:07] <esmarch> list
[06:08] <intelikey> one would think that   "dpkg -P --force-all postfix"  would work.  but no!      dpkg: error processing postfix (--purge):
[06:08] <intelikey>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[06:09] <sppt> hello, how do i get a midi device working? im using an ALi M5455
[06:09] <hak5fan> How do I set a task to run every minute.. I think I need to use cron, but I'm really not sure how to configure things
[06:11] <Admiral_Chicago> hak5fan: you are correct that you need to use cron
[06:11] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure how to use it myself though
[06:11] <intelikey> the offending line in the script is    "  /etc/init.d/postfixd stop "    so if it's not running you simply can't remove it.   thus if you have an issue with postfix it can't be removed.   stupidest thing i've ever... no,  no it's not.  but close maybe.
[06:11] <intelikey> i have setup a cron job just to learn how.... don't remember much more than that about it...
[06:12] <intelikey> * * * * * * 59 command args        ummmm or one less *    maybe.    i don't recall...
[06:14] <tang^> man 5 crontab will tell you how the crontab file is set up
[06:14] <tang^> man crontab tells how to edit your crontab
[06:16] <intelikey> yeah 5 stars.  should run each minute of each hour of each day ...
[06:20] <hak5fan> This is very complicated
[06:23] <Vrenn> Good evening, I installed Kubuntu 7.04 Beta on a PC ad It works perfekt (exept of acpi=force putting in grub after each update), now what happens if final 7.04 comes out? becomes it automatically stable?
[06:24] <intelikey> hak5fan not really.    add a line in /etc/crontab that reads     * * * * *  <user> <command> <args>     <<< inturpret all within <>
[06:25] <blekos_> i need ur help!! i run sudo deborphan | sudo xargs apt-get remove -y to remove the orhpan packaged and now i am without openoffice, firestarter, firefox etc...
[06:25] <blekos_> i need ur help!! i run sudo deborphan | sudo xargs apt-get remove -y to remove the orhpan packaged and now i am without openoffice, firestarter, firefox etc...
[06:25] <blekos_> any ideas?
[06:25] <BluesKaj> Vrenn, no you have to upgrade to the official release, which will be different than your beta version.
[06:26] <intelikey> echo boo | xargs echo
[06:26] <danny500> YES!
[06:26] <danny500> I DID IT!
[06:26] <danny500> WOPPY!
[06:26] <Vrenn> BluesKaj: thanks, then I'll wait until final comes out and then search for a guide/toolbutton to do that
[06:27] <danny500> all I had to do was tell Ubuntu to run DCOP lol
[06:27] <danny500> now my program are working better
[06:27] <danny500> thanks guys
[06:27] <danny500> actually I keep getting this error message
[06:27] <danny500> Will not save configuration.
[06:27] <danny500> Configuration file "/home/danny500/.kde/share/config/konversationrc" not writable.
[06:27] <danny500> Configuration file "/home/danny500/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals" not writable.
[06:27] <danny500> Please contact your system administrator.
[06:28] <BluesKaj> yeah, I tried Feisty but i had no joy...broke my kernel :(   I fooled with it too much
[06:28] <TheInfinity> hmm ... is there a way to switch the keyboard layout fast? something like an switch button in controlbar?
[06:28] <Eruantalon> Vrenn: It should.
[06:28] <Vrenn> Eruantalon: should what? upgrade automatically?
[06:29] <Eruantalon> yes
[06:29] <hak5fan> intelikey: done
[06:29] <TheInfinity> BluesKaj: feisty is beta ;)
[06:29] <BluesKaj> no kidding
[06:30] <danny500> DAMNIT!
[06:30] <danny500> whats wrong with this thing?
[06:30] <danny500> Failed to run /usr/bin/software-properties
[06:30] <danny500> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[06:30] <Vrenn> BluesKaj: Its on a PC for my mom, easy using was the goal, but for me (just Gentoo used) it's a big learning to let graphically tools do their job ;)
[06:30] <blekos_> is there a way that i can change startup programs?
[06:30] <BluesKaj> TheInfinity, thought it was abit more stable than it was
[06:31] <danny500> anyone?
[06:31] <TheInfinity> BluesKaj: i always update my working system at release date - not before - because of those problems ;)
[06:31] <BluesKaj> yeah Vrenn..graphics are difficult , but Feisty promises easier installation of the required pkges ...we can only hope :)
[06:31] <danny500> nm I'll just go back to talking to the wall again, cya
[06:32] <Vrenn> TheInfinity: you are right, but I needet knetworkmanager for wpa, and kubuntu 7 is in this case easy going
[06:32] <TheInfinity> Vrenn: you have networkmanager also in 6.10 or 6.06
[06:32] <blekos_> anybody having problems with doing "version upgrade" via synaptics
[06:32] <TheInfinity> i use it since 6.06
[06:32] <TheInfinity> because i have wpa2 wlan ;)
[06:32] <blekos_> meant adept manager
[06:32] <runix> what package do i need to install to get kdevelop and/or qtdesigner ?
[06:33] <Vrenn> TheInfinity: but you have to install it seperately, I needet it fast
[06:33] <TheInfinity> installing/updating a whole distribution takes much longer then installing 2 packages ;)
[06:33] <Vrenn> and at last, its doing openoffice, firefox and thunderbird, all fine and easy
[06:34] <Agent_bob> is there anything in gnome like kfax ?
[06:35] <Vrenn> TheInfinity: I tried 6.0.6 (kubuntu and ubuntu) and opensuse, and knoppix (which had the worst hardware-dedection), kubuntu 7.04 did fit and was choosen
[06:35] <BluesKaj> Vrenn, what do think of open office ? ..I had a question about it's ease of use and compatability with MS Office docs etc .
[06:35] <TheInfinity> Vrenn: if you have new harware then its difficult with 6.10 - yes
[06:35] <Agent_bob> nobady ?
[06:36] <TheInfinity> i had to recompile the kernel because of a vista only board
[06:36] <Vrenn> TheInfinity: new... a P4 1,5Ghz system, a Dell, pure intel and a madwifi-card
[06:36] <Vrenn> and a ati rage 128
[06:36] <TheInfinity> oh okay ;)
[06:36] <TheInfinity> i had a mainboard from january 07 *g*
[06:36] <runix> damn i feel my desktop is bloated, somehow :(
[06:37] <TheInfinity> -> no sound and no network
[06:37] <Vrenn> but all debian-like-os seems to have problems with acpi, genoo or SuSe have no such poweroff problems (acpi=forse solves it)
[06:37] <alexicon> !gnome
[06:37] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:38] <BluesKaj> Vrenn, what's your opinion of Open Office vs MS Office ?
[06:38] <TheInfinity> debian is somehow blind in this - it trusts acpi too much - and then a lot of hardware factorys make bad acpi code ...
[06:38] <Vrenn> TheInfinity: thats why I personally use Genoo, no hardwaredetection, but you can add every driver manually you get from Linus or community :-)
[06:39] <bobstro> runix: kubuntu isn't exactly a "light" desktop!
[06:39] <TheInfinity> BluesKaj: openoffice is much more logic, ms office has only some things where it is better then ms office. and the ms office formula editor is crap *g*
[06:39] <Vrenn> BluesKaj: Openoffice is more Stable (images-position, big documents) and its portable, but I'm using them only as student, not as a workaholic...
[06:39] <TheInfinity> and BluesKaj: if you want to make really exact documents - use scribus or latex ;)
[06:40] <BluesKaj> Thinking of a friend who needs an office suite for his small online business
[06:40] <Vrenn> TheInfinity: you are true, give me a 48h-day and Ill learn that on my freetime...
[06:40] <TheInfinity> Vrenn: you save a lot of time if you make for example nature scientific protocols with latex
[06:41] <TheInfinity> its some work to get in it but then you save a lot time
[06:42] <Vrenn> yep, but its my last year before my final exam, latex has to wayt (hat enoughto do to learn c++ for my diplom/Master-work)
[06:43] <TheInfinity> diplom ... you are from germany, hmm? :9
[06:44] <Vrenn> no, a little bit south
[06:45] <TheInfinity> sireich?
[06:45] <Vrenn> yes
[06:45] <Vrenn> you?
[06:45] <TheInfinity> jut :) ... vielleicht an der sprache erkennbar deutsch :) ... but now back to english ;)
[06:46] <atidem> hi
[06:47] <BluesKaj> <---- english & svenska ...but have lived in Canada for 58 yrs :)
[06:47] <Mena> why the knetwork manager told me there is no device
[06:47] <Mena> this happened after an update
[06:48] <Mena> !knetwork
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetwork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <Mena> !knetworkmanager
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <TheInfinity> 58 years ... wow :)
[06:48] <BluesKaj> !network
[06:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:48] <BluesKaj> yeah , I'm old retired guy learning Linux :)
[06:48] <Mena> this wouldnt help as i guess
[06:49] <Vrenn> ok, thanks for the information, I'll have to go, have a nice evening
[06:49] <BluesKaj> c ya Vrenn
[06:49] <Mena> Thnaks any way
[06:49] <kenshiro1981> hi all
[06:50] <firecrotch> hi, kenshiro1981
[06:50] <arhangel> helo
[06:50] <kenshiro1981> i need your help
[06:50] <kenshiro1981> i want to install beryl
[06:51] <firecrotch> !beryl
[06:51] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:51] <kenshiro1981> oki thks for your help ubotu
[06:51] <arhangel> i wana install aol
[06:51] <arhangel> !aol
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <azrael_> ... lol
[06:52] <kenshiro1981> mdr
[06:52] <arhangel> azrael_ ...
[06:52] <kenshiro1981> lol
[06:52] <firecrotch> kenshiro1981: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy   is a great guide for installing beryl
[06:52] <kenshiro1981> ok firecrotch thhx
[06:52] <firecrotch> kenshiro1981: you're welcome :)
[06:52] <kenshiro1981> ^^
[06:53] <juan> im having trouble loading  firmware is there anything that can give me a more specific output than dmesg
[06:54] <spawn57> is it a usb device?
[06:54] <spawn57> if it is, then check out udevmonitor
[06:56] <juan> it stops on a line "UDEV  [1176224118.452074]  add@/class/usb_device/usbdev1.7"
[06:57] <Filthpig> hmmm
[06:58] <Filthpig> I'm trying to do a make, but I get "autoconf not found, KDE needs autoconf 2.53 or newer!" But I have installed autoconf 2.61 :s
[06:59] <Filthpig> trying to install some baghira stuff to make kde look like macosx
[06:59] <Filthpig> anyone got a clue?
[07:01] <jermain> hi everyone
[07:01] <jermain> !usb
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <jhutchins> !build | Filthpig
[07:01] <ubotu> Filthpig: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:02] <jermain> I cant put files on my usb stick, does anyone have an idea what the cause might be?
[07:02] <jermain> :(
[07:03] <Filthpig> can you see the usb stick when you insert it?
[07:03] <jermain> yes i can
[07:03] <jermain> and when i put a file on it
[07:03] <jermain> its there too
[07:03] <jermain> but when i take it out
[07:03] <sputnik`> and when you unplug it, it doesn't exist correct?
[07:03] <jermain> and put it into another comp
[07:03] <jermain> the file is gone
[07:03] <Filthpig> have you unmounted it first?
[07:03] <jermain> ,..
[07:03] <sputnik`> i have this problem aswell.. does your USB drive have a LED indicator?
[07:03] <jermain> no i cant say i unmounted first
[07:03] <jermain> yea it does
[07:04] <sputnik`> okay.. the way how i went around this problem, was to wait until the LED indicator stopped flashing
[07:04] <Filthpig> if you right-click on the icon on the desktop, you can select "Safely remove" or something in that direction
[07:04] <sputnik`> even tho the file says it's done copying.. it's actaully not
[07:04] <sputnik`> wait until the drive is done
[07:04] <jermain> oic
[07:04] <jermain> I'll try that right now
[07:05] <Cantthinkofname> Hi!  So, I upgraded from dapper to edgy, and now my mouse doesn't work.
[07:06] <jhutchins> Anything you write to disk is buffered in ram until a "sync" command occurs.  When you unmount somethng, that sync's it, so the file is actually written to the device.
[07:07] <Cantthinkofname> I'm using a microsoft wireless intellimouse explorer 2.0, connected through a usb port.
[07:07] <jhutchins> Try this: copy some files to a mounted floppy.  Swap floppies without unmounting, then unmount.  Where will the files be?  Not on the first floppy.
[07:08] <david48> hello everyone. I have an issue with wine. Accentuated letters don't work on wine, though they work on kubuntu. any ideas ? I've tried looking for a solution on the web, no success.
[07:08] <sputnik`> hm inteesting.. how does the drive retain data if you wait for the USB flash drive to become idle?
[07:08] <sputnik`> does a sync command occur when the kernel resets the USB device?
[07:09] <intelikey> jhutchins not on the second either
[07:09] <jermain> sputnik, fitlhpig: thanks guys, it worked!
[07:09] <jhutchins> intelikey: No?
[07:09] <sputnik`> :)
[07:10] <intelikey> jhutchins not for me.   if you change disks on a mounted device all you get is io errors
[07:11] <jhutchins> intelikey: Ah, either mine doesn't signal, or the last time I did that it was before linux could detect the unmount.
[07:11] <Filthpig> erm
[07:11] <jhutchins> eject, whatever.
[07:11] <intelikey> jhutchins now usb may act differently than /dev/fd0
[07:12] <Filthpig> what was the command to enter the KDE system setting so I can change themes etc
[07:12] <Filthpig> ?
[07:12] <sputnik`> kcontrol ?
[07:12] <jhutchins> intelikey: Yeah, I know if I don't unmount, pictures I delete from my camera will still be there.
[07:12] <Filthpig> aaaaaaah, thanks
[07:12] <Filthpig> haha
[07:12] <intelikey> jhutchins i was keying on the "Try this: copy some files to a mounted floppy.  Swap floppies..."
[07:13] <jhutchins> intelikey: Yeah, as I recall there are issues about when the floppy drive detects a disk change, it's not consistent in DOS either.
[07:13] <jhutchins> You know, we've been telling people various things to set programs to start with a session.  I found this on the beryl page: Go to System->Preferences->Sessions, click the "Startup Programs" tab, click the "Add" button.
[07:15] <intelikey> jhutchins i have done that by accident,   and you get io errors until you umount it.   but umounting it doesn't write the files...  it just stops the io error messages.
[07:15] <intelikey> ummm is that beryl specific tho ?
[07:16] <tang^> well, they get you to add beryl specific programs
[07:16] <tang^> but that's a standard functionality
[07:16] <jhutchins> intelikey: Nope, not bery specific as far as I can tell.
[07:17] <intelikey> k.    then it's in kcontrol i guess
[07:17] <jhutchins> s/bery/beryl/
[07:26] <franky> hello!!.. who is from romania?
[07:27] <jhutchins> !ro
[07:27] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[07:31] <jermain> !nl
[07:31] <jermain> !ne
[07:31] <jermain> ><
[07:31] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ne - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <jermain> :)
[07:31] <jermain> ubotu is cool
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is cool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <jermain> lol
[07:32] <jermain> well im gone, bye everyone!
[07:35] <don_jr__> Anyone help me out with using ndiswrapper?
[07:37] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[07:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:43] <premier_> hello, I'm running 6.10.  Should I upgrade to 7.04 yet?
[07:44] <Dasnipa`> premier_, well its like 7 days til the final 7.04 is released so you should probably wait a week
[07:45] <don_jr__> I run iwconfig and it doesn't show my essid, could someone please tell me the file that's kept in so I can add it?
[07:47] <geggam> /etc/network/interfaces
[07:48] <don_jr__> geggam thanks, I just found it, how do I run the network interfaces in kde as sudo? I know kdesu I just don't know the name of the network manager within kde?
[07:49] <don_jr__> also, rausb0 shows up in the iwconfig, but it does not show up in the /etc/network/interfaces file...where else can I look?
[07:49] <premier_> I use knetworkmanager, and sometimes if I'm switiching back and forth between wireless and ethernet, it'll stop working, sometimes it'll say "no network devices found".  Is there a way to restart my network devices?
[07:50] <geggam> don_jr__, just add it with an editor
[07:50] <geggam> man interfaces is very explanatory
[07:50] <don_jr__> geggam I don't know exatly what all to add.....I'll look at the file on my laptop that has working wireless and get it from there, be back in a sec
[08:04] <Kite_DH> !aptfix
[08:04] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:08] <busfahrer> I'm sorry this is apparently the wrong place to try out Konversation
[08:09] <mia> Is anyone able to play midi files with kubuntu ? Neither kmidi or amarok can play them here . :(
[08:14] <jhutchins> !midi | mia
[08:14] <ubotu> mia: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:21] <carlos> is there a way to get with dcop the configured default mail client in KDE?
[08:28] <Filthpig> hi
[08:28] <Filthpig> how do I run a script?
[08:28] <Filthpig> heh
[08:28] <mia> ./scriptname
[08:29] <mia> maybe doing chmod +x scriptname for making it executable
[08:29] <Filthpig> I mean, I found a script in a howto, but how do I get the #! /bin/sh line so I can run it?
[08:30] <mia> you just put the script in a textfile and then make it executable and run it ?
[08:30] <Filthpig> am I making sense? hahah
[08:30] <Filthpig> hm
[08:30] <mia> Or i misunderstood you :)
[08:31] <Filthpig> I don't know which
[08:31] <Filthpig> haha
[08:31] <don_jr__> I disconnected my network cable then reconnected it, how do I reset the network to see that it's connected again?
[08:31] <Filthpig> ok, let's start again
[08:31] <mia> ifconfig eth0 up ?
[08:31] <trpr> mia: beat me to it
[08:31] <Filthpig> I found some lines that are to be added to a script so that I don't have to do a lot of work on my own.
[08:31] <mia> trpr: what do you mean ?
[08:32] <trpr> mia: i mean you pressed enter two seconds before i did ;)
[08:32] <mia> ah ok :)
[08:32] <Filthpig> and the screenshot for the script contains this "#! /bin/sh" and I'm supposed to paste the lines beneath it
[08:32] <don_jr__> got it up, thanks
[08:32] <mia> hmm , i'm still not able to get my midi files playing argh
[08:32] <Filthpig> but how did I do that?
[08:33] <don_jr__> working and running!
[08:33] <mia> There is no package timidy in the package manager
[08:33] <don_jr__> thanks alot
[08:33] <don_jr__> i'm outta here for a bit
[08:33] <mia> no problem :)
[08:33] <TabCtrl> kubuntu
[08:33] <TabCtrl> yubuntu
[08:39] <aaroncampbell> Does anyone know of a way to use the lightscribe capabilities of my DVD burner on Kubuntu?
[08:39] <mia> doesn't K3B has some options for it ?
[08:40] <Vincent_k> anyone have some advice of a good howto to configure a wireless connection with wpa in textmode?
[08:40] <mia> !wpa
[08:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:41] <mia> Vincent , that's a nice place to start searching ?
[08:41] <gemidjy> in Kubuntu Feisty will/is there (be) a way to activate Beryl as easy as in Ubuntu Feisty ?
[08:41] <Vincent_k> thanks I'll check it out
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> gemidjy: yes but more questions should go to #ubuntu+1, that is the Feisty channel
[08:42] <mia> gemidjy: I didn't used beryl in kubuntu , but i now that it's very easy to use under gentoo , just installing it and adding it to kde/autostart
[08:42] <gemidjy> Admiral_Chicago: :) thanks
[08:42] <tuco> Kubuntu is not switching off normally anymore. I have to press the reset key for 5 secs to stop the pc. Added acpi=force into boot/grub, but still not working. Help
[08:42] <philzink> yop!
[08:42] <gemidjy> mia: that is not my question, I was interested in weather endusers will be able to make beryl work by default since Beryl-settings manager is way too heavy for endusers
[08:42] <mia> why is that gemidjy ?
[08:43] <gemidjy> why is what?
[08:43] <gemidjy> beryl-manager heavy ?
[08:43] <mia> I didn't found it really hard to install under my dear gentoo ... i'm not a 'experienced' user
[08:43] <mia> yes
[08:43] <gemidjy> u are not experienced user and u use gentoo?
[08:43] <mia> by default beryl manager gives some nice settings
[08:43] <aaroncampbell> mia: not that I've seen
[08:43] <mia> True , i just like portage more then apt :)
[08:43] <gemidjy> I am talking for users that come from Windows, much more unexperienced
[08:43] <mia> ok
[08:44] <mia> but after all , do they want some alpha/beta software ?
[08:44] <mia> When they got some problems with beryl , like black/White screens , lock-ups , ...
[08:44] <mia> Do they know how to fix it then ?
[08:44] <gemidjy> they wouldn't
[08:44] <mia> In my opinion not , so they are stuck with some beryl ... they can't change to kwin and they can't fix
[08:44] <carlos> how can I use the tar protocol instead of ark by default?
[08:45] <mia> So maybe it's better to give them kwin , wich works very stable , out of the box
[08:45] <mia> and let the 'a bit more expierenced' users install beryl themselves
[08:45] <tuco> Guys why can't I switch Kubuntu normally anymore?
[08:45] <mia> when they got a 'not working beryl' , they kan easily remove the autostart script from /kde/autostart
[08:45] <wolferine> can you match up html tags in Bluefish?
[08:46] <tuco> added acpi=force into boot/grub but it still doesn't work
[08:48] <tuco> Kubuntu not turning off normally anymore. Anyone can help?
[08:50] <cpk1> "switch" kubuntu normally?
[08:50] <tuco> Well basically when I want to log out, it goes back to desktop and then all I get is black screen and it stays there still powered on.
[08:51] <tuco> I have to press the rest button to switch the pc off.
[08:51] <cpk1> can you go to a different terminal?
[08:51] <tuco> like what cpk1?
[08:51] <cpk1> like tty1
[08:52] <tuco> tty1....ooooh never heard of that!
[08:52] <tuco> this works though: konsole poweroff -h now?
[08:52] <cpk1> ctrl alt and an f-key will take you to a different terminal tuco
[08:53] <tuco> I press ctrl alt and the f key...nothing happens
[08:53] <mia> F1 tuco
[08:53] <mia> or F2
[08:53] <cpk1> i suppose, whenever I want to shut down via console I just use sudo poweroff
[08:53] <mia> some F key like that ;)
[08:53] <mia> F7 to get back in this session
[08:54] <mia> why not doing 'sudo shutdown -h now' ?
[08:54] <cpk1> f1 - f6 are command line and f7 and up are for X servers
[08:54] <cpk1> traditionally
[08:54] <tuco> you lost me now...
[08:55] <mia> tuco: That wasn't really important
[08:55] <mia> can you shutdown your computer by typing 'sudo shutdown -h now' in Konsole ?
[08:55] <tuco> yes
[08:56] <mia> and what happens if you try to shutdown it on the normal way ?
[08:56] <tuco> via the Log out/ turn off computer?
[08:56] <puppetmaster> hi everyone
[08:56] <mia> yes
[08:57] <tuco> Basically it shows the desktop with only the wallpaper and then becomes black. Nothing happens and the power stays on
[08:57] <tuco> And Bob isn't my uncle anymore!
[08:57] <puppetmaster> the screen resolution is not configured
[08:57] <btse> how about ctrl-alt-backspace?
[08:58] <puppetmaster> I tried every thinf
[08:58] <puppetmaster> I tried every thing
[08:58] <puppetmaster> and every refresh  rate
[08:58] <cpk1> puppetmaster: you mean you are stuck at a low screen resolution?
[08:58] <puppetmaster> it's not like that
[08:59] <puppetmaster> there is a black slides
[08:59] <btse> tuco, ?
[08:59] <tuco> I have added acpi=force into boot/grub but it didn't change anything
[08:59] <puppetmaster> on the corner of the screen
[08:59] <mia> puppetmaster: Are you using Beryl or XGL ?
[08:59] <tuco> yes btse?
[08:59] <puppetmaster> my VGA card is NVIDIA
[08:59] <btse> tuco, if you try ctrl-alt-backspace?
[08:59] <jhutchins> tuco: what happens if you remove that, same thing?
[08:59] <cpk1> so just stretch the monitor out then
[08:59] <mia> You are running nvidia drivers ?
[08:59] <puppetmaster> I'm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS Gnome
[09:00] <puppetmaster> my VGA is: Nvidia RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 6
[09:00] <mia> puppetmaster: Are you running nvidia (blob) drivers ?
[09:01] <puppetmaster> no it was installed automatically
[09:01] <puppetmaster> I'm new to linux world by the way
[09:01] <tuco> well I did
[09:01] <tuco> looked like it restarted the session but very quickly
[09:01] <puppetmaster> SO
[09:02] <btse> tuco, and then...?
[09:02] <tuco> then what?
[09:02] <tuco> back to the desktop :-)
[09:02] <btse> ah, ok...
[09:02] <cpk1> the problem with sudo shutdown -h now is that it doesnt save any of your session stuff does it?
[09:03] <tuco> but when I did it looked like it very quickly restarted
[09:03] <tuco> I have an ati card and fglrx installed if that helps
[09:03] <btse> tuco, yes c-a-bs restarts X so remeber to save :-)
[09:03] <btse> tuco, but if X hangs you can sometimes kill it and restart
[09:04] <puppetmaster> please anyone help me
[09:04] <tuco> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet splash acpi=force
[09:04] <tuco> I've added the acpi=force but but nada
[09:04] <tuco>  c-a-bs?
[09:04] <btse> control-alt-backspace
[09:05] <tuco> I don't understand...save what btse?
[09:05] <btse> save your work, all open applications will get killed too
[09:05] <tuco> yes it did
[09:05] <puppetmaster> mia where are you?
[09:06] <tuco> but why the normal turn off doesn't work anymore...it was fine before
[09:06] <mia> I'm still here
[09:06] <puppetmaster> so what should I do?
[09:06] <mia> But i think you're problem is caused by you graphical driverr
[09:06] <mia> try installing nvidia drivers
[09:06] <puppetmaster> is there any package gor my VGA card
[09:06] <mia> !nvidia | puppetmaster
[09:06] <puppetmaster> ?
[09:06] <ubotu> puppetmaster: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:06] <puppetmaster> yes
[09:06] <puppetmaster> RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 6
[09:06] <mia> follow that wiki :)
[09:07] <puppetmaster> I'll then I'll get back to you
[09:07] <tuco> btse?
[09:07] <puppetmaster> thanks alot
[09:07] <thill2708> is there a daemon program that I can run that will download nzbs in an rss feed I provide?
[09:08] <thill2708> er, specify?
[09:08] <jhutchins> tuco: The problem would appear to be that your power management chipset isn't being properly accessed.
[09:08] <tuco> Ah
[09:08] <tuco> What can I do Admiral?
[09:08] <jhutchins> tuco: There are a number of different ways to handle that, apic, acpi, apmd.
[09:09] <jhutchins> tuco: I would recommend googling for your exact laptop model and linux, and maybe power, see what you find.
[09:09] <tuco> I have added acpi=force to the boot/grub
[09:09] <jhutchins> tuco: Which apparently did no good, right?
[09:09] <tuco> No my lord
[09:09] <tuco> I have to try something else
[09:09] <jhutchins> tuco: apic is likely, apmd is older.
[09:10] <ASmith42> Can I open an Outlook calendar?
[09:10] <tuco> it did nothing as far as it seems
[09:10] <thill2708> anyone? Does anyone know of an rss downloader daemon?
[09:10] <jhutchins> thill2708: akregator
[09:10] <thill2708> jhutchins, will it run in the background?
[09:11] <tuco> what about: ap power_off=1?
[09:11] <jhutchins> thill2708: Yup.  System tray applet.
[09:11] <thill2708> jhutchins; even more background than that.
[09:11] <jhutchins> tuco: Like I said, search your specific laptop.  It's a bios level thing, not something that's going to be standard on other comptuers.
[09:11] <thill2708> no gui, nothing
[09:12] <tuco> Well I never had problems before :-(
[09:12] <thill2708> totally automatic and in the background
[09:12] <jhutchins> thill2708: How will you get output?
[09:13] <thill2708> log file, perhaps? Maybe I'll run it in a screen session, like hellanzb
[09:13] <jhutchins> tuco: Ok, tell me your specific laptop model and _I'll_ google it.
[09:13] <tuco> acer 5672
[09:13] <jhutchins> thill2708: snownews?
[09:14] <tuco> duo core, ati x1400, 1 gg ddII, 80 hdd
[09:14] <tuco> aspire 5672
[09:15] <thill2708> jhutchins; I basically want a damon that will check an rss feed, download the newewst nzb (or whatever is attached), and put it in a specified directory
[09:18] <jhutchins> tuco: WHat did you most recently update?
[09:18] <tuco> well the ati drivers, logitech webcam
[09:19] <jhutchins> thill2708: Sourceforge or Freshmeat might have something.  I think most people would just write a bash script and run it with cron, possibly using wget.
[09:19] <jhutchins> tuco: Kernel?
[09:19] <tuco> change sound card defaut
[09:19] <tuco> nope still .2.6.17.10
[09:19] <jhutchins> Is apmd running?
[09:20] <tuco> ampd?
[09:20] <tuco> how can I check?
[09:21] <ASmith42> Answered my question: Outlook calendars can be merged into Kontact.
[09:24] <lol> anybody here?
[09:24] <Black_Cat> no.
[09:24] <lol> where can i see all channels?
[09:24] <Black_Cat> in /list
[09:24] <tuco> Jhutchins?
[09:24] <lol> aha?
[09:24] <eagles0513875> how can i extract an ini file needed for my internal wifi to work from an exe
[09:25] <lol>  /list aha nice thx
[09:25] <alakhia> I have vim installed. But I don't get color highlighting ... how can I fix this please?
[09:27] <lol> u can change
[09:27] <eagles0513875> !feisty |eagles0513875
[09:29] <lol> i dont understand this
[09:29] <eagles0513875> understand what
[09:29] <lol> is this Ubuntu IRC only channels with ubuntu things?
[09:30] <tuco> Has Jhutchins been beamed yet?
[09:30] <carlos> alakhia: add :syntax on to ~/.vimrc
[09:32] <lol> hi
[09:34] <lol> how too change kdm theme in kubuntu?
[09:34] <flipjarg> Hello all,
[09:35] <lol> ?
[09:35] <flipjarg> Does anyone know what could be causing Kubuntu to login to the login screen?
[09:35] <flipjarg> i login with the correct pass and it returns to the login screen.
[09:35] <bronze_0_1> %rephrase  Please rephrase the question or clarify the scope|requirements of what you want
[09:36] <flipjarg> bronze_0_1: are you a bot?
[09:36] <bronze_0_1> why?
[09:36] <lol> try give us output
[09:36] <flipjarg> bronze_0_1: Because the way you typed that seems like the output of a bot.
[09:37] <bronze_0_1> thats just a macro.  saves typing
[09:37] <flipjarg> oh lol
[09:37] <lol> ?
[09:37] <flipjarg> Well, i boot up as usual. It brings me to the login screen.... i type my password then it acts as if it is going to login....
[09:37] <flipjarg> it returns to the login screen.
[09:37] <bronze_0_1> no error message?
[09:37] <flipjarg> no
[09:38] <lol> go to tty1
[09:38] <flipjarg> already have. i can login.
[09:38] <bronze_0_1> hmm, well either its the wrong password, or something is bombing out, or your system has been pwned
[09:38] <puppetmaster> hi everyone
[09:38] <alexicon> how can i find out which version of gtk+ i have installed?
[09:38] <puppetmaster> Anyone knows how to setup Beryl
[09:38] <puppetmaster> ???
[09:38] <lol> yes
[09:38] <puppetmaster> how
[09:38] <lol> read on internet
[09:39] <alexicon> indeed
[09:39] <puppetmaster> I'm using ubuntu 6.06LTS
[09:39] <alexicon> lol
[09:39] <flipjarg> http://wiki.beryl-project.org
[09:39] <lol> :P
[09:39] <lol> how u write in red?
[09:39] <puppetmaster> When I updated my source.list I got error
[09:40] <lol> give us eroor messenge
[09:40] <lol> but why u have 6.06 ?
[09:40] <puppetmaster> ????
[09:41] <lol> why you not upgrade your system too 6.10
[09:41] <puppetmaster> that's the error message
[09:42] <puppetmaster>  Could not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (88.191.33.6), connection tim ed out
[09:42] <puppetmaster> Err http://givre.cabspace.com dapper Release.gpg
[09:42] <puppetmaster>   Could not connect to givre.cabspace.com:80 (65.175.85.100), connection timed o ut
[09:42] <puppetmaster> Fetched 61.2kB in 2m0s (507B/s)
[09:42] <puppetmaster> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Co uld not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (88.191.33.6), connection timed o ut
[09:42] <puppetmaster> Failed to fetch http://givre.cabspace.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Could  not connect to givre.cabspace.com:80 (65.175.85.100), connection timed out
[09:42] <puppetmaster> Failed to fetch http://eg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/ source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[09:42] <puppetmaster> W: GPG error: http://www.getautomatix.com dapper Release: The following signatur es couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CC919 A31E23C5FC3
[09:42] <puppetmaster> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[09:42] <puppetmaster> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[09:42] <puppetmaster> so what should I do?
[09:42] <lol> open terminal and write  sudo update-manager -c -d
[09:42] <puppetmaster> ok wait please
[09:43] <wolferine> why, when I go to a .php page, does my browser attempt to dl it, instead of displaying it?
[09:43] <wolferine> i know this is something simple....
[09:43] <puppetmaster> then
[09:44] <lol> i dont know try look in u browser konfigurestion
[09:44] <Daskreech2> !feisty
[09:44] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:44] <lol> april 19.
[09:45] <tuco> So should I reinstall Edgy now since the lappie doesn't turn off normally?
[09:45] <puppetmaster> should I upgrade to 6.10
[09:46] <puppetmaster> ?
[09:46] <lol> dunno but why not? its a newer version
[09:46] <tuco> well in 10 days you have fawn wait me thinks
[09:46] <Daskreech2>  !schedule
[09:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:46] <smile> hi linuxian .. i have a problem in windows
[09:46] <wolferine> anyone?
[09:47] <wolferine> i know its something real simple, not to do with the browser
[09:47] <lol> ubotu, but why they make new version so fats? it stress me
[09:47] <tuco> Anybody encountered a problem with turning the machine off normally in Edgy?
[09:47] <smile> can i read and modify *.EXE &  *.DLL files under Linux ?
[09:47] <vlt|home> Hello. How can I tell the X-server or kdm/kde that my display is rotated 90 CW and mouse movement and screen orientation have to be transformed? Is X the one in charge here?
[09:48] <vlt|home> smile: You can modify any file under Linux ;_)
[09:48] <smile> vlt|home: can i do that with Kate ?
[09:49] <vlt|home> smile: No, I don't think so 'cause kate is a text editor. You might need a hex editor ...
[09:50] <smile> vlt|home: thx .. i really forgot that !
[09:50] <Daskreech2> !find hex
[09:50] <ubotu> Found: libconvert-binhex-perl, dssi-plugin-hexter, ghex, ghextris, hex (and 9 others)
[09:50] <Daskreech2> vlt|home: Take a pick
[09:51] <vlt|home> smile: I found khexedit for KDE.
[09:51] <smile> vlt|home: Thx friend
[09:52] <lol> i suck
[09:52] <lol> from?
[09:54] <lol> hallo?
[09:54] <robert^> hi?
[09:54] <lol> hvor ndre man start icon i kubuntu hvor ndre man kdm theme i kubuntu  ?
[09:55] <lol> ?
[09:55] <lol> robert ?
[09:56] <alakhia> carlos: Tried that just now (was afk)
[09:56] <alakhia> carlos: I get this message: No Syntax items defined for this buffer
[09:57] <tuco> guys I found this regarding my problem with the machine not turning off normally. Do I have to add these lines at the end of the script?
[09:57] <tuco> suggestion is to add "acpi=off apm=power_off" to menu.lst and "apm power_off=1" to /etc/modules
[09:58] <robert^> lol: see http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=50240 ?
[10:00] <lol> robert, you danish?
[10:00] <robert^> lol: no
[10:00] <lol> how did you understand then?
[10:00] <tuco> how do I upgrade my kernel?
[10:01] <lol> robert thx i like that suse menu ;) now i will se if i can install it
[10:02] <blekos> is anybody having problems with the repos?
[10:03] <wolferine> blekos which?
[10:04] <blekos> i try to install vlc but i get E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:04] <HaSH> blekos, only one prosses can use the package manager at a time
[10:04] <puppetmaster> hi everyone
[10:04] <HaSH> you must have more then one open.
[10:05] <puppetmaster> Anyone know how to repair the source.list file???
[10:06] <markelhas> hi, i've removed sun java 5 and installed sun java 6, but now when i type java one my shell i can't use it. how can i fix this?
[10:06] <blekos> sorry, the right message is:
[10:06] <blekos> Err http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main libcucul0 0.99.beta11.debian-2build1
[10:06] <blekos>   404 Not Found
[10:06] <pollyo> !adept
[10:06] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:06] <lol> puppetmaster what is in it?
[10:06] <pollyo> !fixadept
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <HaSH> puppetmaster, yea its in /etc/apt/source.list you can generate a new one with source o matic
[10:06] <pollyo> !adeptcrash
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <puppetmaster> how to???
[10:06] <HaSH> !sourceomatic | puppetmaster
[10:06] <ubotu> puppetmaster: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:06] <tuco> Guys how can I make sure I use the latest kernel?
[10:06] <markelhas> now i cant run azures to :( and other tools that need java vm
[10:07] <markelhas> any tips!?
[10:07] <pollyo> !adeptfix
[10:07] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:07] <HaSH> tuco, sudo apt-cache search kernel then uname -r to see the current kernel version
[10:07] <lol> puppetmaster open terminal write   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sourc.lst
[10:07] <lol> puppetmaster open terminal write   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[10:08] <lol> ups
[10:08] <lol> 2.
[10:08] <tuco> and if I need to update it?
[10:08] <HaSH> sudo apt-get install linux-image.2.x.x.x
[10:08] <markelhas> i've also tried to reinstall the java 6 but nothing seems to work
[10:09] <tuco> 2.6.17.10 is what I have
[10:09] <HaSH> tuco, or you can try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ...that should update the kernel
[10:09] <tuco> nothing...ah well maybe I have the latest kernel :-)
[10:10] <tuco> Thanks Hash
[10:10] <markelhas> any one!?
[10:10] <HaSH> tuco, what poe
[10:10] <HaSH> *one
[10:10] <tuco> But my most important issue is the machine doesn't turn off normally
[10:10] <HaSH> paste the output of uname -r here
[10:11] <tuco> 2.6.17-10-generic
[10:11] <HaSH> 2.6.17-11-generic is the newest for me.
[10:11] <tuco> Doh!
[10:11] <HaSH> did you set you your sources correctly?
[10:11] <HaSH> !sourceomatic | tuco
[10:11] <ubotu> tuco: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:12] <HaSH> do there and copy pate the contents of that to /etc/apt/source.conf
[10:12] <HaSH> *go
[10:12] <HaSH> * /etc/apt-sources.list
[10:12] <HaSH> bah
[10:12] <HaSH> * /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:13] <HaSH> tuco, are you fimiler with repositorys and stuff?.
[10:13] <HaSH> !repositorys
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositorys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <HaSH> !repository
[10:13] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:13] <HaSH> !repository | tuco
[10:13] <ubotu> tuco: please see above
[10:13] <HaSH> haha smart little bot
[10:13] <lol> lol
[10:14] <tuco> I am on it now Chief :-)
[10:14] <HaSH> looks weird when you lol lol
[10:14] <HaSH> tuco, once ya do that youll have access to ALOT of packages around 20,000
[10:15] <tuco> 20261 to be exact :-)
[10:15] <HaSH> hehe.
[10:16] <ASmith42> How to install SDL?
[10:16] <tuco> and there goes 134 mb of updates...sweet as! ;-)
[10:16] <tuco> Hope it corrects my turning off problem
[10:17] <puppetmaster> The source.list still gives error when I upgrade to ubuntu 6.10?
[10:17] <puppetmaster> please help
[10:18] <ASmith42> Gives errors?
[10:18] <groux> Hi to All
[10:18] <lol> lol
[10:18] <groux> someone speak Spanish
[10:18] <lol> haha?
[10:18] <puppetmaster> anyone
[10:18] <lol> weird why?
[10:18] <puppetmaster> please
[10:18] <groux> I Need Help
[10:18] <groux> :S
[10:19] <groux> shit
[10:19] <groux> sorry
[10:19] <ASmith42> !es
[10:19] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:19] <lol> puppetmaster DO THIS : open terminal write   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst      and give us all there is stand there
[10:21] <lol> ups sry forgot "i"
[10:21] <lol> puppetmaster DO THIS : open terminal write   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      and give us all there is stand there
[10:21] <lol> now with i
[10:21] <puppetmaster> it gaved me a wite page
[10:22] <puppetmaster> it didn't give me anything
[10:22] <lol> sry i forgot i
[10:22] <puppetmaster> what??
[10:23] <lol> look agin just sources.list  not sources.lst
[10:24] <puppetmaster> the same
[10:24] <lol> no
[10:25] <puppetmaster> ok wait
[10:25] <lol> you have kubuntu?
[10:25] <puppetmaster> you need what's written inside?
[10:26] <lol> yes
[10:26] <puppetmaster> # Automatically generated sources.list
[10:26] <puppetmaster> # http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[10:26] <puppetmaster> #
[10:26] <puppetmaster> # If you get GPG errors with this sources.list, locate the GPG key in this file
[10:26] <puppetmaster> # and run these commands (where KEY is replaced with that key)
[10:26] <puppetmaster> So
[10:26] <lol> thats all?
[10:27] <puppetmaster> yes
[10:27] <puppetmaster> that's all I'm sure
[10:27] <blekos_> vlc
[10:27] <lol> you have ubuntu 6.06?
[10:27] <blekos_> cannot b installed in feisty fawn, any ideas?
[10:27] <puppetmaster> yes
[10:27] <lol> i have vlc
[10:27] <puppetmaster> and I want to upgrade to 6.10 ?
[10:27] <lol> w8
[10:28] <puppetmaster> So what's the solution?
[10:28] <markelhas> hi, i've removed sun java 5 and installed sun java 6, but now when i type java one my shell i can't use it. how can i fix this?
[10:28] <lol> u remove all and put in this 2 sec
[10:29] <wolferine> markelhas, java what?
[10:29] <puppetmaster> lol R u there
[10:29] <puppetmaster> ?
[10:29] <wolferine> did you use the extension?
[10:29] <lol> yes
[10:29] <lol> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:29] <puppetmaster> so
[10:29] <lol> look
[10:29] <markelhas> wolferine: i've used adept manager
[10:29] <puppetmaster> ok
[10:30] <markelhas> wolferine: installed sun java 6 jre and bin
[10:30] <markelhas> wolferine: and now can run tools that need java
[10:30] <lol> blekos , i have vlc in 7.04 and it is working fine
[10:31] <puppetmaster> It didn't help me?
[10:31] <markelhas> wolferine: maybe something wrong with adept manager!
[10:31] <wolferine> markelhas, what command did you type (which gave you the error) ?
[10:31] <markelhas> wolferine: java -version
[10:31] <lol> what did you do?
[10:31] <markelhas> wolferine: bash: java: command not found
[10:32] <puppetmaster> i tried that a moment ago
[10:32] <wolferine> you installed the JRE
[10:32] <puppetmaster> and it didn't help
[10:32] <wolferine> not sure if thats what you want
[10:32] <markelhas> wolferine: yap bin and jre
[10:32] <puppetmaster> Do U have a source.list
[10:32] <wolferine> check the Ubuntu Guide (google it), for installing Java
[10:32] <puppetmaster> which I can use it
[10:32] <puppetmaster> and u r sure of it?
[10:33] <markelhas> wolferine: ok i've done that, i'll keep trying.
[10:33] <puppetmaster> Do U have lol?
[10:33] <carlos> is there any package of kio_rar for kubuntu out there?
[10:33] <lol> do this open terminal write  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  and replace it all with  :
[10:33] <lol> ## Add comments (##) in front of any line to remove it from being checked.
[10:33] <reagleBRKLN> how do you configure/find-out the super key? I have a kinesis keyboard and wonder what my super key is.
[10:33] <lol> ## Use the following sources.list at your own risk.
[10:33] <lol> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[10:33] <lol> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[10:33] <wolferine> markelhas, what did you do already?
[10:33] <lol> ## MAJOR BUG FIX UPDATES produced after the final release
[10:34] <lol> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:34] <lol> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:34] <lol> ## UBUNTU SECURITY UPDATES
[10:34] <lol> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:34] <wolferine> lol
[10:34] <wolferine> thats what pastebin is for
[10:34] <markelhas> wolferine: i've gone to java sun page and look the guide to install java for linux
[10:34] <lol> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:34] <wolferine> !pastebin | lol
[10:34] <lol> ## BACKPORTS REPOSITORY (Unsupported.  May contain illegal packages.  Use at own risk.)
[10:34] <ubotu> lol: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:34] <lol> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:34] <lol> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:34] <wolferine> lol, please stop
[10:34] <lol> ## PLF REPOSITORY (Unsupported.  May contain illegal packages.  Use at own risk.)
[10:34] <lol> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free
[10:34] <lol> deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free
[10:34] <lol> ## CANONICAL COMMERCIAL REPOSITORY (Hosted on Canonical servers, not Ubuntu
[10:34] <lol> ## servers. RealPlayer10, Opera and more to come.)
[10:34] <lol> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[10:34] <lol> ?
[10:34] <lol> pasterbin???
[10:34] <wolferine> markelhas, which is different then what I told you
[10:35] <lol> sorry but its first time i use irc
[10:35] <wolferine> lol, why do you think we want to see you flood the channel like that
[10:35] <markelhas> wolferine: i've reinstall tthe java 5 and now it works, but the azures does run
[10:35] <wolferine> markelhas, installing Axureus is also in the Guide
[10:35] <wolferine> gives step by step for everything
[10:35] <lol> how should i write it then?
[10:36] <wolferine> i think you might want to read it over
[10:36] <wolferine> !pastebin | lol
[10:36] <ubotu> lol: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:36] <markelhas> wolferine: ok
[10:36] <lol> !pastebin | lol
[10:36] <lol> ?
[10:38] <BluesKaj> why azureus ...ktorrent is better IMO and not as hoggy
[10:38] <blekos_> well for some reason the repos 4 awhile were closed... now i installed vlc
[10:38] <wolferine> i cannot help to get around the hoggy, because of my router
[10:39] <wolferine> lol, if you read what is posted after I typed in !pastebin | lol :: then you will clearly read what you need to know
[10:39] <MinceR> rtorrent is even better :>
[10:39] <wolferine> the message that ubotu posts to you
[10:40] <BluesKaj> ktorrent can configged with your router , wolferine... it works well behind mine
[10:40] <BluesKaj> err can be configged
[10:41] <wolferine> but this is because of this exact router
[10:41] <jhutchins> tuco: I seem to have the same problem with a toshiba Satellite a15 running off the CD.
[10:41] <BluesKaj> use azureus if ya love java
[10:41] <lol> wolferine, so i just give link then? after i make a pasterbin
[10:41] <wolferine> so I know it is the same issue no matter which torrent client I use
[10:42] <wolferine> lol, correct, that way the ppl helping can look at your pastebin
[10:42] <lol> but how long is it gonna stand there?
[10:43] <wolferine> lol, some pastebins will allow you to set a time frame
[10:43] <wolferine> others, may not
[10:43] <wolferine> why are you posting it anyways?
[10:43] <wolferine> where is the issue?
[10:44] <lol> okey thx
[10:45] <wolferine> BluesKaj, I have tried other clients
[10:45] <wolferine> i just didnt "fiddle" with the settings as much as I did with Azureus
[10:46] <BluesKaj> wolferine, what probs do you have with torrent clients ?
[10:48] <wolferine> lagging during web surfing
[10:48] <wolferine> but thats about it
[10:48] <BluesKaj> wolferine, you map the the required ports on the router and it should work, unless yer using proxy or behind a FW
[10:51] <comosicus> well i find in my com that i have something named "sound recorder" but when i record something the sound is very bad...with an echo...can i do something to improved the sound?
[10:57] <Kr4t05> Hrm... My KNetworkManager icon has a weird little X over it... But, I have a perfectly stable connection...
[11:00] <ForteenX> hi. I have a folder that i am sharing between users by giving it a group "share". One problem if a user writes to this shared folder other people cant delete that persons files. I want to be able to do this. Any pointers? Thanks
[11:02] <lol> zd1201
[11:04] <comosicus> well i find in my com that i have something named "sound recorder" but when i record something the sound is very bad...with an echo...can i do something to improved the sound?
[11:06] <lol> when i rigth click on deskop can i edit that menu?
[11:09] <confuzed> Can anyone help me figure out how to restart the 7.04 upgrader?  I stopped it because I thought it had frozen (there was a hidden dialog box open) and now it will not restart.
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> lol: afaik, no but that probably just means I don't know how to do it
[11:10] <lol> lol?
[11:11] <confuzed> Ironically, when I stopped it, it told me that my system my be unstable and to restart it... but it won't restart... hmm
[11:12] <lol> afaik???
[11:14] <lol> BUT can i add terminal to that menu?
[11:15] <Neil-> can kopete do msn voice chat?
[11:15] <lol> dont know
[11:16] <Neil-> anyone?
[11:17] <confuzed> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete%20MSN says "Many users ask to know if video or voice chat will be possible soon. Good news: KDE 3.5 will have Webcam support, but will not support audio.
[11:17] <confuzed> "
[11:17] <Neil-> balls
[11:19] <lol> any danish men here?
[11:19] <jhutchins_lt> Is there an option to save settings for the live CD to a USB drive or something?
[11:19] <lol> installet it to usb?
[11:20] <lol> install it to usb?
[11:20] <confuzed> He means like Knoppix does.
[11:20] <lol> ohh
[11:20] <lol> ups i dont know :P
[11:21] <jhutchins_lt> Yeah, like knoppix.
[11:21] <confuzed> Where any changed files are stored to the USB key, allowing you to preserve configuration changes, even install additional packages.
[11:21] <jhutchins_lt> Right, or even just user settings, like for konversation and kmail.
[11:21] <confuzed> I would venture to guess not.  that's what knoppix is for ;-)
[11:21] <jhutchins_lt> This laptop has no hard drive.
[11:22] <confuzed> You could, however, install to a USB drive.
[11:23] <Red_Tear> is it hard to upgrade dapper drake point one to edgy?
[11:23] <jhutchins_lt> Isn't there some sort of wireless network monitor applet?
[11:23] <Red_Tear> (to a beginner ;) )
[11:24] <confuzed> Red_Tear: google for a guide... there are a few out there... just google dapper to edgy or something like it.
[11:24] <jhutchins_lt> KSysguard on the CD, but no sensors. Dumb.
[11:25] <ericj2190> can someone help me?
[11:26] <ericj2190> knetworkmanager stpped showing my wireless networks.
[11:26] <ericj2190> *stopped
[11:26] <confuzed> ericj2190: why?
[11:26] <confuzed> ericj2190: I mean... what was the last thing you did before this happened?
[11:26] <HaSH> can someone help me with this please? http://pastebin.ulteo.us/505
[11:27] <ericj2190> i installed the network-manager-pptp package.
[11:27] <HaSH> i realy need to recompile ffmpeg and that wont work.
[11:27] <ericj2190> removing it didn't help
[11:27] <jhutchins_lt> ericj2190: You've tried just restarting it, haven't you?
[11:28] <ericj2190> yep
[11:28] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Why?  Just use the package from the repos.
[11:29] <jhutchins_lt> ericj2190: Does lsusb show the card(s)?
[11:29] <HaSH> jhutchins, that has no non free support. i need codecs that arnt built into the default one.
[11:29] <confuzed> eric: you might run aptitude and make sure that all of knetworkmanager's dependancies are installed.  Sometimes installing packages, like network-manager-ppp, can conflict.
[11:29] <HaSH> plsu obviously something is wrong with apt...
[11:29] <jhutchins_lt> !plf
[11:29] <ubotu> The Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas
[11:29] <HaSH> yea plf sources suck. they do *not* work for me
[11:29] <jhutchins_lt> PLF has the full version, although it should be in multiverse.
[11:29] <jhutchins_lt> !info mplayer
[11:29] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[11:30] <jhutchins_lt> Is that the version you have?
[11:30] <HaSH> jhutchins, every tutorial ive read says i need to build ffmpeg myself
[11:30] <pparker> hi, my problem is when i want to quit kde (stop or reboot ) it takes long timee
[11:30] <ericj2190> jhutchins_lt: no, but it isn't a usb card. i can still connect using the terminal though
[11:30] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: I can show you tutorials that say you need to rebuild the kernel from scratch.  Doesn't mean you do.
[11:30] <HaSH> yes thats the mplayer ihave
[11:31] <jhutchins_lt> !info ffmpeg
[11:31] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 612 kB
[11:31] <HaSH> jhutchins, ..ok
[11:31] <HaSH> jhutchins, but i still need to compile it.
[11:31] <jhutchins_lt> !build
[11:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:32] <HaSH> it says to. find me a tutorial to encode and add videos to a ipod that doesnt require you to have a ffmpeg that allows using the correct formate
[11:32] <jhutchins_lt> Ok, now we are up to the specific problem, you need iPod video format support.
[11:32] <HaSH> plus i should be able to use apt like that. there is obviously a porblem.
[11:33] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114946
[11:34] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Doesn't seem to be an apt problem, I would guess it's something on your setup.
[11:34] <Dell190> Would anyone have the time to help me get GRUB back when my PC starts up
[11:34] <HaSH> jhutchins, that *still* needs a ffmpeg that does these formates.
[11:34] <jhutchins_lt> WHere does it say to get it?
[11:34] <HaSH> jhutchins, u went to source o matic and selected everything but the backports and bazrr packsg
[11:35] <HaSH> jhutchins, the way i am try to .
[11:35] <HaSH> *trying to
[11:35] <confuzed> Dell190: what do you mean... the system still boots, but you don't get the menu?  Or you system doesn't have a bootloader at all?
[11:35] <HaSH> jhutchins, step 1 for ffmpeg from that tutoriasl is : sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg
[11:36] <Dell190> Confuzed: it boots, but it goes straight to windows and bypasses Linux altogether
[11:36] <HaSH> which doesnt work.....this was my 1st post.
[11:36] <jhutchins_lt> Heh. "The .deb Method source has been taken offline recently. Please follow the Source Method below."
[11:37] <HaSH> like i said something is wrong and sourceomatic should be updated
[11:37] <confuzed> Dell190: Ahh... ok... one sec I'll find you a tutorial... though I bet with a little googling you could find one too.
[11:37] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Ah, yes, you will need the headers for several things, and the source for what you're actually compilling.  The latter can be obtained from mplayer.hu, but not the headers.
[11:37] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: No, I don't think it's source-o-matic, or we'd have had a storm of other users with problems.
[11:37] <Dell190> confuzed: i did,and none of the ones on google worked
[11:37] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: What does apt-get update do?
[11:38] <HaSH> jhutchins, this is a fresh install. 1st thing i did was add sources from sourceomaitc then did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. it *IS* somthing wrong with sourceomatic
[11:38] <jhutchins_lt> Dell190: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:38] <HaSH> not unless sourceomatic discriminated against me
[11:38] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: I didn't ask you that.
[11:38] <confuzed> Dell190: what have you tried
[11:38] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: I asked what apt-get update returns?
[11:39] <HaSH> jhutchins, apt-get update updates the sources according to the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:39] <Dell190> confuzed: i tried that on you gave me there, and even the "Super Grub Disk" to no avail
[11:39] <HaSH> jhutchins, alot. want me to pastebin it?
[11:40] <confuzed> are you sure your menu.lst file isn't just loading windows with 0 delay?
[11:40] <HaSH> jhutchins, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/506
[11:40] <confuzed> Dell190: are you sure your menu.lst file isn't just loading windows with 0 delay?
[11:40] <Dell190> confuzed: i dunno, i am new to linux, so i wouldn;t know
[11:42] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Ok, you're missing the keys.
[11:42] <HaSH> jhutchins, yea i know. but thats not gonna cause my error
[11:43] <jhutchins_lt> Yes it is.
[11:43] <jhutchins_lt> What error?
[11:43] <HaSH> jhutchins, also some of the mirrors sourceomatic gives me are dead...another reason it should be updated
[11:43] <confuzed> Dell190: I doubt that it's the problem then... did you just install windows on an empty partition?
[11:43] <Dell190> i have Windows and Linux on 2 seperate drives
[11:43] <HaSH> jhutchins, ive pasted it 3 times. http://pastebin.ulteo.us/505 this error
[11:43] <tuco> guys I have this folder "install_flash_player_9_linux" in hom. The error message says: error konqueror Access denied to /home/tuco.local/share/Trash/files/install_flash_player_9_linux
[11:44] <Dell190> confuzed: i have Windows and Linux on 2 seperate drives
[11:45] <confuzed> Dell190: Ahh.. ok... how did you install them... windows 1st or second... which drive is linux installed on?
[11:45] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[11:45] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: I'm just a fellow user, I don't follow this channel 24x7.
[11:45] <Dell190> confuzed: Windows then Linux
[11:45] <jhutchins_lt> Dell190: Just out of curiosity, did you try that URL I sent you and fail?
[11:46] <confuzed> Dell190: Did Linux ever boot?
[11:46] <lol> what the hell?
[11:46] <confuzed> jhutchins_lt: he said he did
[11:46] <Dell190> confuzed: no i done all the commends and it all worked.. but the bootloader still wont show
[11:46] <Dell190> confuzed: yes it did, until i reinstalled windows
[11:46] <lol> i have a dell inspiron 9150
[11:46] <Dell190> lol: i have the 2200
[11:47] <lol> no diemension i meaned
[11:47] <HaSH> well this is rediculous. there should be one official repo list. not a whole bunch of random ones that dont work.
[11:47] <confuzed> Dell190: Ok...I am betting that your not installing the bootloader to the correct drive when you install grub
[11:47] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: There is, check the main site.
[11:47] <tuco> can somebody help me delete the file please?
[11:47] <lol> how to get whet pants?
[11:47] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Do you understand how the repositories work?
[11:47] <confuzed> Dell190: the bootloader needs to install on the primary master disk... or first disk in the system.
[11:48] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Somebody pays to run the server and put it on line, then they volunteer to carry the ubuntu packages.
[11:48] <Dell190> confuzed: so i need to put it on the Windows Drive??
[11:48] <jhutchins_lt> Dell190: Yes.
[11:48] <HaSH> jhutchins, yea im very aware of how they are made.
[11:48] <HaSH> err work
[11:48] <confuzed> Dell190: yes... the system will always look at the same location for a boot loader... always the first drive's MBR
[11:48] <frojnd> is there posible to connecto to a local maschine via krd and not knowing vnc's pass. I only know what's this maschine's pass and username ??
[11:49] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Looks like you failed to download the source list, so you can't find the file.  I'd try apt-get update again.
[11:49] <Dell190> confuzed: ok i will try it and come back and let ya know how it went
[11:49] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: I thought key handling was automated, but perhaps not, perhaps it needs a manual override
[11:49] <confuzed> Dell190: well theoretically... not really.... just pretend thats true
[11:49] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Also, the servers have to be maintained, and sometimes you hit them in the middle of maintenance and stuff fails.
[11:49] <HaSH> jhutchins, ive run apt-get update at least 20 times
[11:49] <HaSH> over 2 days
[11:50] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: I would suggest that you remove your sources list, and generate a new one with only the basics, and get that working.
[11:51] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Because if the main US mirrors had been down for two days this channel would be full of complaints about it.
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Dell190, one more suggestion if i may , DL and burn "SuperGrub" it'll restore the windows MBR ...worked for me
[11:51] <HaSH> jhutchins_lt, ive dont that also :/
[11:51] <BluesKaj> just be sure your boot sequence in the BIOS is set to cdrom
[11:51] <confuzed> BluesKaj: He already tried that... I assume his issue is because he has two drives
[11:51] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: apt-get --clean
[11:52] <HaSH> jhutchins, ill try that.
[11:52] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: It could be that kubuntu is not for you.
[11:52] <fairman_> Hi, how can i remove apache2 and mysql server from autostart? The home/user/.kde/autostart is empty ....
[11:52] <tuco> Help guys...I just want to get rid of that annoying folder.
[11:52] <HaSH> it was. ive used ubuntu before. im in no way a compleate noob with *ubuntu
[11:52] <jhutchins_lt> I believe SuSE has the option of paid access to officially maintained repositories.
[11:53] <HaSH> f suse in its dirty behind
[11:53] <HaSH> E: Command line option --clean is not understood
[11:53] <confuzed> jhutchins_lt: take it easy... I've had weird problems with repositories before
[11:53] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: It has the feature you asked for
[11:53] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Ok, apt-get clean or whatever then.
[11:53] <BluesKaj> well, his windows drive or his linux drive neds a bootloader , one way or another
[11:53] <HaSH> yea to bad you recomend a sell out distro
[11:53] <Dell190> confuzed: OMG THANKYOU SOO MUCH !!!!
[11:54] <confuzed> HaSH: I missed most of what your discussion was about, but I know once I couldnt' connect to the ubuntu repo's with FTP... switched to HTTP and I was good to go,.
[11:54] <confuzed> Dell190: no problem
[11:55] <confuzed> HaSH: Never did figure out the cause, as FTP worked for everything else.
[11:55] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[11:56] <HaSH> ok this is rediculous. i did the apt-get clean and then did apt-get update ...and it still wont let me attampt to build ffmpeg
[11:56] <HaSH> jhutchins, im well aware how to use apt-get
[11:56] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: You don't know how to use clean.
[11:56] <jhutchins_lt> I'm done.
[11:57] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: You know all about everything, you've already done everything, you're just here to trash talk.
[11:57] <HaSH> jhutchins, well like i has stated before ive used ubuntu before and am aware how to use apt-get
[11:57] <HaSH> jhutchins, and your here to ask me the same thing 2+ times?.
[11:58] <HaSH> all im trying to do is get help the 1st thing i hadent tried was the clean option.
[11:58] <confuzed> HaSH: don't mind him... he has no patience
[11:58] <HaSH> guess not.
[11:59] <confuzed> HaSH: I completely lost track of what was going on... what's the problem.
[11:59] <HaSH> confuzed, in short i need to encode video for my ipod. every guide i read says i need to make my own ffmpeg with support that the default one doesnt have.
[12:00] <confuzed> and what's stopping you
[12:00] <HaSH> confuzed, but i get this error : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/505
[12:00] <HaSH> confuzed, i used sourceomatic to add sources and well..they all work.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> HaSH, http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
[12:01] <confuzed> HaSH, your not having trouble with any other packages or sources?
[12:01] <spark_> kubuntu-de
[12:01] <BluesKaj> copy and paste those repos and you can apt-get install ffmpeg
[12:01] <HaSH> confuzed, not that ive found yet.
[12:01] <HaSH> BluesKaj, they are for edgy?.
[12:02] <HaSH> BluesKaj, and use ALL of them?
[12:02] <confuzed> BluesKaj: he needs to build it with AAC and h.234 support
[12:02] <TheDebugger> Personally, i use medibuntu repos
[12:02] <HaSH> TheDebugger, ive never been fond of thouse automatic installers.
[12:03] <HaSH> ive heard of many issues with some of them..
[12:03] <HaSH> TheDebugger, wait its a reposiroty
[12:03] <TheDebugger> HaSH: It's a repository... not a software
[12:03] <confuzed> I mean h.264
[12:03] <HaSH> ohh
[12:03] <BluesKaj> try them and find out ...won't do any harm
[12:03] <TheDebugger> HaSH: It has w32codecs dvdcss2 etc..
[12:04] <HaSH> TheDebugger, ive installed most of that stuff from other repos(ones that sourceomatic provieds)
[12:04] <BluesKaj> they'll either work or not...I used the restricted ones myself but...
[12:04] <HaSH> BluesKaj, using repos for different distros wont hurt this?.
[12:04] <BluesKaj> no
[12:04] <reldruh> hello. I have kind of a weird problem I was hoping somebody could help me solve. I have two copies of my music collection, one on my laptop and one on my server. My amarok collection is straight from my laptop but I'd like to keep both of them up to date. Is there a simple way to setup keeping them in sync?
[12:04] <meo> why is is that I can't find vlc or audacity or azureus for linux anywhere?
[12:04] <KrAmMeR> can anyone help me sound issue?
[12:04] <KrAmMeR> issues*
[12:04] <BluesKaj> they just may not work ,...kubuntu is debian based after all
[12:04] <confuzed> reldruh: rsync
[12:05] <meo> oh, I didn't know that
[12:05] <HaSH> TheDebugger, turns out i already have that repo.
[12:05] <meo> would they work in ubuntu
[12:05] <reldruh> confuzed: that looks perfect. Thank you very much
[12:06] <confuzed> meo: he wasn't talking to you
[12:06] <meo> oh :P
[12:06] <BluesKaj> sorry , didn't mean to cause confusion ...I'll use nicks from now on
[12:06] <confuzed> meo: ubuntu has a vlc package
[12:07] <confuzed> meo: it's in the universe repository
[12:07] <meo> ok, but is there any way to get it on kubuntu?
[12:07] <lol> fuck
[12:08] <BluesKaj> HaSH, can you paste your  /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin ...we need to look at what's wrong with it
[12:08] <lol> how to change the ubuntu from the dsoc of there?
[12:08] <confuzed> meo: yep... enable the universe repository, and install it like any other package... audacity is there as well
[12:09] <HaSH> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/506
[12:09] <confuzed> meo: azuraus is available on the plf (penguin liberation front) repositories.
[12:09] <HaSH> i removed a few of the sources and now it seems to work i think its Seveas' Ubuntu Packages that is messed up
[12:10] <HaSH> i didnt use that one this time and now it seems to have worked
[12:10] <lol> i downloaded a kickoff deb file and after install how to get it on?
[12:10] <HaSH> (this one thing at least)
[12:10] <lol> hallo?
[12:11] <confuzed> meo: are you following me?
[12:11] <meo> uh, ya kinda
[12:11] <meo> Where do i get hte universe repository
[12:12] <confuzed> meo: you enable repositories in adept... adept -> manage repositories... it will open your /etc/sources.list file... where you can uncomment out the universe and multiverse repositories
[12:13] <lol> how to suck dick on a lolita if it onle have a pussy?
[12:13] <confuzed> You can add additional repositories, like the plf, by adding them to this list
[12:13] <HaSH> well crap. this just isnt working i now get this http://pastebin.ulteo.us/507