williammanda | with a symbolic link for mythtv? | 12:24 |
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majoridiot | correct | 12:24 |
williammanda | k | 12:25 |
majoridiot | :) | 12:25 |
williammanda | the lircrc file was much easier to setup...than the other programs | 12:25 |
williammanda | setup for mythtv | 12:25 |
majoridiot | agreed | 12:26 |
majoridiot | i haven't tried to set up anything else | 12:26 |
majoridiot | i just did mythtv and modded an existing one for mplayer, for when i use mythvideo | 12:26 |
williammanda | once i had a working example...it was just changing things to my taste | 12:26 |
majoridiot | yeah... it's great to have an example to tailor for your own tastes | 12:27 |
majoridiot | i try to do that whenever possible | 12:27 |
williammanda | ok...ty for your help | 12:27 |
majoridiot | you are welcome | 12:27 |
majoridiot | williammanda: the feisty lirc page, updated with firefly info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty | 12:47 |
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Xenocide | majoridiot, do you know if there is a front end "player" like the one in windows | 04:39 |
majoridiot | huh? | 04:40 |
Xenocide | like iw ant something i can just play from a laptop | 04:41 |
Xenocide | no full frontend | 04:41 |
Xenocide | just a windowed player | 04:41 |
Xenocide | they have one in windows you just have a list and you click on what you want to play, obviously its 3rd party not an official player | 04:42 |
majoridiot | not to my knowledge. | 04:42 |
Xenocide | hm thats sad | 04:42 |
majoridiot | you can play the files with media players... | 04:42 |
Xenocide | well i want a list and able to automatically skip commercials n st uff | 04:42 |
Xenocide | kinda a PIA to run frontend on my laptop | 04:43 |
majoridiot | but you'll have to suss the filenames yourself as they are named by date | 04:43 |
Xenocide | i guess i could do it in windowed mode | 04:43 |
majoridiot | yeah | 04:43 |
majoridiot | it's not that big. | 04:43 |
majoridiot | runs great windowed | 04:43 |
majoridiot | at least for me | 04:43 |
Xenocide | ill do it when i get some free ti me | 04:45 |
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Xenocide | in the guide on help files it tells how to do it windowed? | 04:45 |
Xenocide | i sitll haven't fixed the mythvideo crash yet | 04:45 |
majoridiot | it's a simple tick box in the frontend setup | 04:45 |
Xenocide | k | 04:45 |
majoridiot | "run in windowed mode" i believe | 04:45 |
Xenocide | simple enough | 04:45 |
Xenocide | maybe ill do it right now | 04:46 |
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superm1 | keescook: I saw the bug report for the HDHomerun patch | 04:52 |
superm1 | keescook: its to bad this naming scheme we adapted from debian-multimedia, otherwise I'd say we might as well just update to the last 0.20-fixes checkout | 04:53 |
superm1 | via patch | 04:53 |
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Xenocide | majoridiot, for some reason i cannot get it to connect at all to my backend | 05:00 |
majoridiot | your laptop? | 05:01 |
Xenocide | yea | 05:02 |
majoridiot | did you setup the correct ip and db password? | 05:03 |
Xenocide | yup | 05:03 |
Xenocide | i checked the mysql.txt | 05:03 |
Xenocide | and i ch ecked the mysql.conf to make sure it allowed non localhost connections | 05:03 |
majoridiot | is the bind-address 127.0.0.1 commented out of your etc/mysql/my.cnf on your backend? | 05:05 |
Xenocide | yup | 05:05 |
majoridiot | what error are you getting? | 05:06 |
Xenocide | cannot conect to the backend ip | 05:06 |
Xenocide | server | 05:06 |
majoridiot | cat /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt on the backend and make sure it matches ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt | 05:08 |
majoridiot | on you laptop | 05:08 |
Xenocide | it does | 05:10 |
Xenocide | exactly | 05:10 |
Xenocide | eh | 05:10 |
Xenocide | wait | 05:10 |
Xenocide | yea | 05:10 |
Xenocide | let me try and logout though | 05:10 |
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Xenocide | nope | 05:11 |
majoridiot | does the frontend launch at all? | 05:13 |
Xenocide | yup | 05:14 |
Xenocide | just gives that the backend can't be reached | 05:14 |
majoridiot | is the backend running? | 05:14 |
Xenocide | well someone is watching tv so i would assume :) | 05:15 |
Xenocide | has to be | 05:15 |
majoridiot | do you have more than one tuner? | 05:15 |
Xenocide | yup | 05:15 |
majoridiot | dunno then. | 05:15 |
Xenocide | all i was trying to do was get to the recordings | 05:15 |
Xenocide | so it don't matter | 05:15 |
majoridiot | no reason it shouldn't connect | 05:15 |
majoridiot | run the frontend from a command line | 05:16 |
majoridiot | and see what kind of errors it spits out | 05:16 |
Xenocide | its trying to connect to the backend server on localhost | 05:17 |
Xenocide | i didn't see a backend server option in mythfrontend | 05:17 |
Xenocide | only sql | 05:17 |
majoridiot | you don't have the address set correctly then. | 05:18 |
Xenocide | i have it set to the IP address | 05:18 |
Xenocide | and i know thats the ip | 05:18 |
Xenocide | cuz i can ssh to it | 05:18 |
majoridiot | cut and paste the result of: | 05:18 |
majoridiot | cat ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt | 05:18 |
Xenocide | xeno@xeno-laptop:/etc/mythtv$ cat mysql.txt | 05:19 |
Xenocide | DBHostName=192.168.1.122 | 05:19 |
Xenocide | DBUserName=mythtv | 05:19 |
Xenocide | DBName=mythconverg | 05:19 |
Xenocide | DBPassword=mythtv | 05:19 |
Xenocide | i know the password and login are correct | 05:19 |
majoridiot | DBPassword=mythtv? | 05:19 |
Xenocide | yea | 05:19 |
Xenocide | i changed it to that | 05:19 |
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Xenocide | haha how is that nonstandard | 05:20 |
Xenocide | all i did was change my password | 05:20 |
Xenocide | for simplicity sake | 05:20 |
majoridiot | yup. | 05:20 |
majoridiot | exactly. | 05:20 |
Xenocide | ?? | 05:23 |
majoridiot | in a nutshell... | 05:24 |
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majoridiot | you have changed your mysql db password... and now you are having problems on a simple connect from a frontend and your mythvideo is doing goofy things... | 05:25 |
majoridiot | i have no idea what else might have been done. | 05:25 |
Xenocide | everything worked until i installed that new imdb script | 05:26 |
Xenocide | i think this is unrelated from that | 05:26 |
majoridiot | can you log into mysql from your laptop? | 05:28 |
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Xenocide | how would i do that | 05:44 |
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majoridiot | worst... drivers... ever. | 07:23 |
superm1 | lol | 07:28 |
superm1 | majoridiot, what happened? | 07:28 |
superm1 | still no tv out? | 07:28 |
majoridiot | not worth anything. | 07:28 |
superm1 | what a shame | 07:28 |
majoridiot | tried installing the newest ati blob... wouldn't build for xorg 7.2, even tho it was calimed to support | 07:29 |
superm1 | oh the latest one does build for xorg 7.2 | 07:29 |
superm1 | you have to build debs though | 07:29 |
superm1 | in the fashion of | 07:29 |
majoridiot | found a page that gave a nice turn-it-into-a-deb and install... very nice. | 07:29 |
superm1 | --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty | 07:29 |
majoridiot | but had to patch for the kernel | 07:29 |
majoridiot | yeah | 07:30 |
majoridiot | did that | 07:30 |
superm1 | oh you know what, the 2.6.20 patch isn't in the latest public release | 07:30 |
majoridiot | and the kernel patch | 07:30 |
superm1 | i forgot about that | 07:30 |
majoridiot | how fekkin pointless is it to release a driver that | 07:30 |
majoridiot | ARRRGH | 07:30 |
majoridiot | radeon 9600 for sale... you pay the postage and it's yours. | 07:31 |
superm1 | haha | 07:31 |
superm1 | thanks but no thanks :0 | 07:31 |
majoridiot | anyway, the blobs just dumped the core on aticonfig | 07:31 |
majoridiot | thought i got all the bits out and just installed the latest ubuntu package | 07:31 |
majoridiot | but something's still borked. | 07:31 |
majoridiot | there's a picture... it's kinda jumpy | 07:32 |
superm1 | its kinda jumpy? | 07:32 |
majoridiot | and fglrxinfo just laughs | 07:32 |
majoridiot | stutters | 07:32 |
superm1 | did you enable xv output? | 07:32 |
superm1 | *xv overlay | 07:33 |
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majoridiot | yes | 07:33 |
majoridiot | there's residual nastiness messing it up | 07:33 |
superm1 | yea i know what you mean | 07:33 |
majoridiot | bil@mythbox:~$ fglrxinfo | 07:33 |
majoridiot | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server | 07:33 |
majoridiot | Xlib: No protocol specified | 07:33 |
majoridiot | Error: unable to open display :0 | 07:33 |
superm1 | xhost + | 07:34 |
superm1 | and then try that again | 07:34 |
majoridiot | nope. | 07:34 |
majoridiot | nice thought, tho. | 07:34 |
majoridiot | :) | 07:34 |
superm1 | well situations like what you hit are the exact reason why i dont advocate ati cards when possible :) | 07:35 |
superm1 | even to windows people | 07:35 |
majoridiot | it was fine in windows... for what i needed it for. | 07:35 |
majoridiot | but i switched to nvidia after 3 weeks of this tripe last summer | 07:35 |
majoridiot | only trying to get it to work because it has composite out and my crappy old tv is composite in | 07:36 |
superm1 | ah | 07:36 |
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majoridiot | np if i could find a freakin 470pf capacitor, but no go. radio shack apparently has stopped carrying actual useful things. | 07:37 |
superm1 | haha | 07:38 |
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superm1 | they do sell ready made adapters you know.. | 07:38 |
superm1 | well that i might be able to do.... | 07:38 |
majoridiot | not cheap, they don't. | 07:38 |
superm1 | i'll see if i have them later on | 07:39 |
superm1 | oh well with my emp discount the adapters are like 5 bucks tops | 07:39 |
majoridiot | egads. | 07:39 |
superm1 | majoridiot, did keescook come back around? | 07:52 |
superm1 | this evening while i was at work? | 07:52 |
majoridiot | not that i saw | 07:52 |
superm1 | wonder if he got around to looking at the packaging changes then | 07:52 |
superm1 | i didnt see an upload or anything | 07:53 |
majoridiot | didn't see him. | 07:53 |
majoridiot | i took care of everything we discussed earlier, guide-wise... | 07:55 |
majoridiot | and cleaned up the feisty lirc page a little more | 07:56 |
majoridiot | (even fixed the fesity pages LOL) | 07:56 |
superm1 | oh very good | 07:56 |
superm1 | i'll take a look around tomorrow afternoon | 07:56 |
majoridiot | i'll try and go through them again, again | 07:57 |
majoridiot | they should probably be posted soon | 07:58 |
superm1 | i remember doing all this with the edgy pages :) | 07:58 |
superm1 | its amazing how much you catch time after time | 07:58 |
majoridiot | it's amazing how much will stay the same since you have the packages sewn up so sweetly | 07:58 |
superm1 | i changed up the troubleshooting page earlier | 07:59 |
superm1 | to reflect how things should be with regard to group membership etc | 07:59 |
majoridiot | yeah... i checked that. major revisions. | 08:00 |
majoridiot | hopefully those days are winding to a close | 08:00 |
superm1 | yes | 08:01 |
majoridiot | it will be nice to be able to move onto helping specific configurations instead of just getting the basic one functioning | 08:01 |
majoridiot | :) | 08:01 |
superm1 | we gonna be ready for putting these on the front page Thur you think ? | 08:02 |
majoridiot | i think so | 08:02 |
majoridiot | unless you find something completely out of line that i missed | 08:03 |
superm1 | vg | 08:03 |
majoridiot | afaic they are good to go when you say so | 08:03 |
superm1 | havent yet | 08:03 |
superm1 | if i will, i will for sure let you know | 08:03 |
majoridiot | i still want to write a blurb about overall changes/improvements for feisty... | 08:07 |
majoridiot | improved installer for password, ALSA by default, setapackages, etc. | 08:07 |
superm1 | ivtv, lirc, | 08:10 |
superm1 | and lots more stuff | 08:10 |
majoridiot | right | 08:10 |
superm1 | there really has been a lot that got done over the last 6 months | 08:10 |
superm1 | where did you want to put this blurb? | 08:10 |
majoridiot | at the top of the feisty_top menu under a "what's new" | 08:11 |
majoridiot | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/FeistyTop | 08:11 |
majoridiot | Right above the installation... "What's new in MythTV for Feisty Fawn" | 08:12 |
superm1 | Like a "Whats changed" link? | 08:12 |
superm1 | or just list it all | 08:12 |
majoridiot | look if you like, get right to the install otherwise. | 08:12 |
majoridiot | a link | 08:12 |
superm1 | ah okay | 08:15 |
superm1 | sounds good | 08:15 |
majoridiot | look at that link again | 08:17 |
majoridiot | (goes nowhere) | 08:17 |
superm1 | ah right | 08:18 |
superm1 | i'm thinking of re-ordering/re-wording some of that stuff | 08:18 |
majoridiot | i just built it from the edgy entries | 08:19 |
majoridiot | agree that it could be better | 08:19 |
superm1 | here let me try something | 08:19 |
superm1 | see what you think | 08:19 |
majoridiot | k | 08:19 |
superm1 | take a look | 08:26 |
superm1 | is that too basic | 08:27 |
majoridiot | works very well for me, dude | 08:27 |
majoridiot | organized and to the point | 08:27 |
superm1 | vg | 08:29 |
superm1 | i'll let you know tomorrow of anything big i catch on the pages as i keep looking, otherwise i'll fix anything small i catch | 08:29 |
majoridiot | vg | 08:29 |
superm1 | ah good ssh is in the what next now | 08:30 |
superm1 | good good | 08:30 |
superm1 | the only big thing standing out right now will be the changes reflected by my packaging changes when uploaded | 08:32 |
superm1 | which will be easy to pull out | 08:32 |
majoridiot | very easy | 08:32 |
majoridiot | can be done all at once very easily | 08:32 |
majoridiot | tomorrow i'll set up mysql qith a root and then install from the new package to test it | 08:34 |
majoridiot | and cap the prompt | 08:34 |
majoridiot | ;) | 08:34 |
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superm1 | qith a root? | 08:36 |
majoridiot | with a root password | 08:36 |
majoridiot | typo | 08:36 |
superm1 | ah | 08:39 |
superm1 | its just a matter of running dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database afterwords | 08:39 |
superm1 | to put that password in | 08:39 |
majoridiot | mythtv-database? | 08:40 |
majoridiot | the cap says mythtv-common | 08:40 |
superm1 | really... | 08:42 |
superm1 | should be mythtv-database from what i setup. reconfiguring mythtv-common will change other things instead | 08:43 |
superm1 | that cap is just telling you your current password for the mythtv mysql user | 08:46 |
superm1 | what i'm referring to is this one that you get for updating the database | 08:46 |
majoridiot | ah | 08:46 |
superm1 | i'll dcc it in a sec | 08:47 |
superm1 | just need to reinstall the package to show ya | 08:47 |
majoridiot | sec | 08:50 |
majoridiot | k. try again. | 08:52 |
majoridiot | xchat just refuses to save it. | 08:59 |
majoridiot | hm. | 08:59 |
superm1 | hm | 09:01 |
superm1 | okay last shot | 09:03 |
superm1 | and then i think i'm done | 09:03 |
superm1 | i'm awfully tired :) | 09:03 |
majoridiot | dunno, man... the accpet is greyed out and i can't seeem to influence it. | 09:03 |
majoridiot | me too. | 09:04 |
superm1 | well its just the same popup you'll get tomorrow | 09:04 |
superm1 | when you do | 09:04 |
superm1 | sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database | 09:04 |
superm1 | so no worry | 09:04 |
superm1 | you'll see | 09:04 |
majoridiot | k | 09:04 |
majoridiot | i'm headed to bed. | 09:04 |
superm1 | alright off to bed then | 09:04 |
superm1 | later | 09:04 |
majoridiot | later | 09:05 |
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juski | aha! helps if I join #ubuntu-mythtv, not #mythtv-ubuntu lol | 10:13 |
superm1 | juski, !!!! | 10:14 |
juski | just FYI guys I've heard that the video wasn't taken in the light it was intended, so I've taken it down. Didn't mean to offend or upset anybody - was only poking fun at folks who can't be bothered to do their research - the shouty, screamy helpless noobs who don't listen. Wasn't meant to be a dig at ubuntu or the fine work of the packagers | 10:14 |
superm1 | your alive! | 10:14 |
juski | rumours of my demise were greatly exaggerated :-P | 10:15 |
superm1 | juski, personally i wasnt sure how to interpret it, especially with you dissappearing from here for ages | 10:15 |
superm1 | i wasnt sure if it was a supposed to be a jab at us, but very glad it isnt :) | 10:15 |
juski | nah, I wouldn't stoop so low | 10:16 |
superm1 | very good | 10:16 |
superm1 | glad to hear that | 10:16 |
juski | the internet is forever & I know better than that ;) | 10:16 |
superm1 | juski, well good news on our parts - i think i've got most of the complaints about passwords straightened out now | 10:16 |
juski | yeah I heard that - taken some getting there ;) | 10:17 |
superm1 | so hopefully noobs won't act that way and need to do much research :) | 10:17 |
juski | anyway I've gotta run or I'll be late for work! | 10:17 |
superm1 | juski, btw, i just installed blootube to replace my current theme | 10:18 |
superm1 | love it | 10:18 |
superm1 | catch ya later! | 10:18 |
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superm1 | keescook, are you there? | 07:10 |
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keescook | superm1: here, but really busy. :( | 07:36 |
superm1 | keescook, oh okay | 07:36 |
superm1 | keescook, just wanted to touch bases with you since i didnt catch you again yesterday | 07:36 |
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keescook | superm1: yeah, I meant to get to testing stuff, but I just haven't had the time yet. | 07:36 |
superm1 | is there any other freezes coming up before release that could prevent these from getting in if you dont get around to it (should I ping another MOTU to look it over like imbrandon) | 07:37 |
keescook | Thursday might be another freeze; never hurts to ping imbrandon. :) | 07:40 |
superm1 | he's just impossible to get ahold of for an extended period of time sometimes :) | 07:41 |
superm1 | i | 07:42 |
superm1 | 'll put the HD home run patch in | 07:42 |
superm1 | and make sure things still build fine | 07:42 |
superm1 | and then make a debdiff, | 07:42 |
superm1 | probably easier for any other MOTU to look over changes then | 07:42 |
keescook | awsome, thanks. Can you test that one, too? It seems like it adds some stuff to the mpeg2 handlers, regardless of hdhomerun-ness | 07:42 |
superm1 | i'll have to build it for dapper then too (my backend is dapper), but sure that shouldn't be too much trouble | 07:43 |
superm1 | keescook, one more thing before i let you scurry back off to canonical stuff | 07:43 |
keescook | :) sure | 07:43 |
superm1 | there is a lot of interest for 0.20-fixes packages that are more closely tracked to the 0.20-fixes branch | 07:44 |
superm1 | do you think its a safe idea to have a weekly cron job on imbrandon's server once things are going | 07:44 |
superm1 | that will do a checkout and automatically build a deb | 07:44 |
superm1 | for those that want it? | 07:44 |
superm1 | (well, deb(s)) | 07:44 |
keescook | sure, that's a great idea; it can give us a sense of how stable the branch is, to support requests for doing -updates uploads. :) | 07:45 |
superm1 | okay, i'll look into how difficult assembling such a script for the cron job is, i don't anticipate it to be horrible | 07:45 |
superm1 | lots and lots to do all of a sudden :) | 07:45 |
superm1 | keescook, i'll catch up with you later hten | 07:46 |
keescook | okay, sweet. thanks for all the work! | 07:46 |
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superm1 | keescook, just tested the package with HD Home run changes | 10:12 |
superm1 | works fine on my dapper backend | 10:12 |
keescook | superm1: that's good news. :) | 10:12 |
majoridiot | hola superm1 | 10:12 |
superm1 | hey majoridiot | 10:12 |
superm1 | keescook, there is indeed a universe freeze thursday | 10:23 |
superm1 | keescook, i'll keep watching out for an open MOTU to upload if you dont then :) | 10:23 |
majoridiot | hm. dubstar_04 updated his feisty box ond now no mythtv menus | 10:30 |
superm1 | nothing has changed that should cause that - | 10:31 |
superm1 | unless he had opengl turned on | 10:31 |
superm1 | and nvidia drivers didnt update | 10:31 |
majoridiot | i'm wondering if a kernel update broke his opengl | 10:31 |
majoridiot | hehe | 10:31 |
superm1 | :) | 10:31 |
superm1 | hope thats all it is | 10:31 |
majoridiot | i'm on it. | 10:33 |
majoridiot | kernel update- switch to QT sorted it :) | 10:40 |
superm1 | just saw | 10:41 |
superm1 | vg | 10:41 |
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superm1 | keescook, bddebian got it uploaded :) | 12:02 |
gardengnome | superm1: does marillat use your, uh, stuff? | 12:03 |
keescook | superm1: rock on! | 12:03 |
superm1 | gardengnome, marillat and i stay in touch with regards to changes | 12:03 |
superm1 | i try to send him my changes after we upload to feisty | 12:03 |
superm1 | and i watch his changes list for when he does releases | 12:03 |
gardengnome | nice | 12:03 |
superm1 | so as soon as we have binaries out, i'm going to let him know about our fixes for the pw issues lately | 12:03 |
majoridiot | should the change be incorporated into the guide yet? | 12:04 |
superm1 | yes | 12:04 |
majoridiot | k | 12:04 |
superm1 | these should show up in the next day or two | 12:05 |
superm1 | majoridiot, i let you know the lirc prebuilt modules didnt make it in right? | 12:05 |
majoridiot | i will wait then... until hey are available. it's an easy change. | 12:05 |
superm1 | i seem to recall telling you | 12:05 |
majoridiot | yes... you did. still refer to your repos on the feisty lirc page | 12:06 |
majoridiot | also, new media page- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_media_Feisty | 12:06 |
superm1 | majoridiot, looks very nice | 12:07 |
superm1 | i really love those shiny highlights you put on these screenshots :) | 12:07 |
majoridiot | hehe ty | 12:07 |
superm1 | majoridiot, i added indentation if thats okay with you :) | 12:09 |
majoridiot | have at, pls. | 12:09 |
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superm1 | gardengnome, why do you ask? | 12:10 |
superm1 | about marillat | 12:10 |
gardengnome | superm1: i was just wondering really | 12:11 |
superm1 | majoridiot, i also updated the front page /MythTV to match up with how feisty front page will be looking | 12:11 |
superm1 | gardengnome, ah okay. wasn't sure something came up | 12:11 |
superm1 | gardengnome, i saw something brought up on -users about more up to date svn packages | 12:11 |
majoridiot | superm1: yes, looking very nice! | 12:11 |
superm1 | once i have the hosting with imbrandon straightened out, i'm going to have a repo hosted there that will do weekly packages | 12:11 |
superm1 | from 0.20-fixes for those interested | 12:12 |
gardengnome | superm1: nice | 12:12 |
superm1 | who need a very recent fix or anything | 12:12 |
superm1 | i started the cron script today, looks like it should be pretty straightforward | 12:12 |
superm1 | okay i gotta run for a bit to meet with a prof. i'll be back in the next hour or two. catch you guys later | 12:12 |
majoridiot | superm1: i think i will try to put together a WOL for mythtv page in the next few days as well | 12:13 |
majoridiot | k. ttyl. | 12:13 |
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