[12:24] with a symbolic link for mythtv? [12:24] correct [12:25] k [12:25] :) [12:25] the lircrc file was much easier to setup...than the other programs [12:25] setup for mythtv [12:26] agreed [12:26] i haven't tried to set up anything else [12:26] i just did mythtv and modded an existing one for mplayer, for when i use mythvideo [12:26] once i had a working example...it was just changing things to my taste [12:27] yeah... it's great to have an example to tailor for your own tastes [12:27] i try to do that whenever possible [12:27] ok...ty for your help [12:27] you are welcome [12:47] williammanda: the feisty lirc page, updated with firefly info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty === tgm4883 [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === The_Green [n=Administ@c-69-250-46-165.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === The_Green [n=Administ@c-69-250-46-165.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === elmonkey01 [n=pinke@c-71-229-163-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Xenocide [n=xeno@rrcs-70-60-97-150.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Xenocide [n=xeno@rrcs-70-60-97-150.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:39] majoridiot, do you know if there is a front end "player" like the one in windows [04:40] huh? [04:41] like iw ant something i can just play from a laptop [04:41] no full frontend [04:41] just a windowed player [04:42] they have one in windows you just have a list and you click on what you want to play, obviously its 3rd party not an official player [04:42] not to my knowledge. [04:42] hm thats sad [04:42] you can play the files with media players... [04:42] well i want a list and able to automatically skip commercials n st uff [04:43] kinda a PIA to run frontend on my laptop [04:43] but you'll have to suss the filenames yourself as they are named by date [04:43] i guess i could do it in windowed mode [04:43] yeah [04:43] it's not that big. [04:43] runs great windowed [04:43] at least for me [04:45] ill do it when i get some free ti me === frank23 [n=frank@CPE001839c1904e-CM00080d26a042.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:45] in the guide on help files it tells how to do it windowed? [04:45] i sitll haven't fixed the mythvideo crash yet [04:45] it's a simple tick box in the frontend setup [04:45] k [04:45] "run in windowed mode" i believe [04:45] simple enough [04:46] maybe ill do it right now === superm1 [n=supermar@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:52] keescook: I saw the bug report for the HDHomerun patch [04:53] keescook: its to bad this naming scheme we adapted from debian-multimedia, otherwise I'd say we might as well just update to the last 0.20-fixes checkout [04:53] via patch === Xenocide [n=xeno@rrcs-70-60-97-150.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:00] majoridiot, for some reason i cannot get it to connect at all to my backend [05:01] your laptop? [05:02] yea [05:03] did you setup the correct ip and db password? [05:03] yup [05:03] i checked the mysql.txt [05:03] and i ch ecked the mysql.conf to make sure it allowed non localhost connections [05:05] is the bind-address 127.0.0.1 commented out of your etc/mysql/my.cnf on your backend? [05:05] yup [05:06] what error are you getting? [05:06] cannot conect to the backend ip [05:06] server [05:08] cat /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt on the backend and make sure it matches ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt [05:08] on you laptop [05:10] it does [05:10] exactly [05:10] eh [05:10] wait [05:10] yea [05:10] let me try and logout though === Xenocide [n=xeno@rrcs-70-60-97-150.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:11] nope [05:13] does the frontend launch at all? [05:14] yup [05:14] just gives that the backend can't be reached [05:14] is the backend running? [05:15] well someone is watching tv so i would assume :) [05:15] has to be [05:15] do you have more than one tuner? [05:15] yup [05:15] dunno then. [05:15] all i was trying to do was get to the recordings [05:15] so it don't matter [05:15] no reason it shouldn't connect [05:16] run the frontend from a command line [05:16] and see what kind of errors it spits out [05:17] its trying to connect to the backend server on localhost [05:17] i didn't see a backend server option in mythfrontend [05:17] only sql [05:18] you don't have the address set correctly then. [05:18] i have it set to the IP address [05:18] and i know thats the ip [05:18] cuz i can ssh to it [05:18] cut and paste the result of: [05:18] cat ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt [05:19] xeno@xeno-laptop:/etc/mythtv$ cat mysql.txt [05:19] DBHostName=192.168.1.122 [05:19] DBUserName=mythtv [05:19] DBName=mythconverg [05:19] DBPassword=mythtv [05:19] i know the password and login are correct [05:19] DBPassword=mythtv? [05:19] yea [05:19] i changed it to that === majoridiot no longer tries to fix problems on non-standard installations, sorry. [05:20] haha how is that nonstandard [05:20] all i did was change my password [05:20] for simplicity sake [05:20] yup. [05:20] exactly. [05:23] ?? [05:24] in a nutshell... === superm1 [n=supermar@ubuntu/member/superm1] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [05:25] you have changed your mysql db password... and now you are having problems on a simple connect from a frontend and your mythvideo is doing goofy things... [05:25] i have no idea what else might have been done. [05:26] everything worked until i installed that new imdb script [05:26] i think this is unrelated from that [05:28] can you log into mysql from your laptop? === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:44] how would i do that === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5F79F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === majoridiot forsakes ati forever... may they burn to the ground. [07:23] worst... drivers... ever. [07:28] lol [07:28] majoridiot, what happened? [07:28] still no tv out? [07:28] not worth anything. [07:28] what a shame [07:29] tried installing the newest ati blob... wouldn't build for xorg 7.2, even tho it was calimed to support [07:29] oh the latest one does build for xorg 7.2 [07:29] you have to build debs though [07:29] in the fashion of [07:29] found a page that gave a nice turn-it-into-a-deb and install... very nice. [07:29] --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty [07:29] but had to patch for the kernel [07:30] yeah [07:30] did that [07:30] oh you know what, the 2.6.20 patch isn't in the latest public release [07:30] and the kernel patch [07:30] i forgot about that [07:30] how fekkin pointless is it to release a driver that [07:30] ARRRGH [07:31] radeon 9600 for sale... you pay the postage and it's yours. [07:31] haha [07:31] thanks but no thanks :0 [07:31] anyway, the blobs just dumped the core on aticonfig [07:31] thought i got all the bits out and just installed the latest ubuntu package [07:31] but something's still borked. [07:32] there's a picture... it's kinda jumpy [07:32] its kinda jumpy? [07:32] and fglrxinfo just laughs [07:32] stutters [07:32] did you enable xv output? [07:33] *xv overlay === majoridiot remembers why he put this card in the closet and bought nvidia last summer [07:33] yes [07:33] there's residual nastiness messing it up [07:33] yea i know what you mean [07:33] bil@mythbox:~$ fglrxinfo [07:33] Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server [07:33] Xlib: No protocol specified [07:33] Error: unable to open display :0 [07:34] xhost + [07:34] and then try that again [07:34] nope. [07:34] nice thought, tho. [07:34] :) [07:35] well situations like what you hit are the exact reason why i dont advocate ati cards when possible :) [07:35] even to windows people [07:35] it was fine in windows... for what i needed it for. [07:35] but i switched to nvidia after 3 weeks of this tripe last summer [07:36] only trying to get it to work because it has composite out and my crappy old tv is composite in [07:36] ah === majoridiot doesn't want to build an svideo to composite cable [07:37] np if i could find a freakin 470pf capacitor, but no go. radio shack apparently has stopped carrying actual useful things. [07:38] haha === majoridiot will trade a radeon 9600XT for two 470pf ceramic capacitors... you pay postage for both. [07:38] they do sell ready made adapters you know.. [07:38] well that i might be able to do.... [07:38] not cheap, they don't. [07:39] i'll see if i have them later on [07:39] oh well with my emp discount the adapters are like 5 bucks tops [07:39] egads. [07:52] majoridiot, did keescook come back around? [07:52] this evening while i was at work? [07:52] not that i saw [07:52] wonder if he got around to looking at the packaging changes then [07:53] i didnt see an upload or anything [07:53] didn't see him. [07:55] i took care of everything we discussed earlier, guide-wise... [07:56] and cleaned up the feisty lirc page a little more [07:56] (even fixed the fesity pages LOL) [07:56] oh very good [07:56] i'll take a look around tomorrow afternoon [07:57] i'll try and go through them again, again [07:58] they should probably be posted soon [07:58] i remember doing all this with the edgy pages :) [07:58] its amazing how much you catch time after time [07:58] it's amazing how much will stay the same since you have the packages sewn up so sweetly [07:59] i changed up the troubleshooting page earlier [07:59] to reflect how things should be with regard to group membership etc [08:00] yeah... i checked that. major revisions. [08:00] hopefully those days are winding to a close [08:01] yes [08:01] it will be nice to be able to move onto helping specific configurations instead of just getting the basic one functioning [08:01] :) [08:02] we gonna be ready for putting these on the front page Thur you think ? [08:02] i think so [08:03] unless you find something completely out of line that i missed [08:03] vg [08:03] afaic they are good to go when you say so [08:03] havent yet [08:03] if i will, i will for sure let you know [08:07] i still want to write a blurb about overall changes/improvements for feisty... [08:07] improved installer for password, ALSA by default, setapackages, etc. [08:10] ivtv, lirc, [08:10] and lots more stuff [08:10] right [08:10] there really has been a lot that got done over the last 6 months [08:10] where did you want to put this blurb? [08:11] at the top of the feisty_top menu under a "what's new" [08:11] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/FeistyTop [08:12] Right above the installation... "What's new in MythTV for Feisty Fawn" [08:12] Like a "Whats changed" link? [08:12] or just list it all [08:12] look if you like, get right to the install otherwise. [08:12] a link [08:15] ah okay [08:15] sounds good [08:17] look at that link again [08:17] (goes nowhere) [08:18] ah right [08:18] i'm thinking of re-ordering/re-wording some of that stuff [08:19] i just built it from the edgy entries [08:19] agree that it could be better [08:19] here let me try something [08:19] see what you think [08:19] k [08:26] take a look [08:27] is that too basic [08:27] works very well for me, dude [08:27] organized and to the point [08:29] vg [08:29] i'll let you know tomorrow of anything big i catch on the pages as i keep looking, otherwise i'll fix anything small i catch [08:29] vg [08:30] ah good ssh is in the what next now [08:30] good good [08:32] the only big thing standing out right now will be the changes reflected by my packaging changes when uploaded [08:32] which will be easy to pull out [08:32] very easy [08:32] can be done all at once very easily [08:34] tomorrow i'll set up mysql qith a root and then install from the new package to test it [08:34] and cap the prompt [08:34] ;) === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5F79F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:36] qith a root? [08:36] with a root password [08:36] typo [08:39] ah [08:39] its just a matter of running dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database afterwords [08:39] to put that password in [08:40] mythtv-database? [08:40] the cap says mythtv-common [08:42] really... [08:43] should be mythtv-database from what i setup. reconfiguring mythtv-common will change other things instead [08:46] that cap is just telling you your current password for the mythtv mysql user [08:46] what i'm referring to is this one that you get for updating the database [08:46] ah [08:47] i'll dcc it in a sec [08:47] just need to reinstall the package to show ya [08:50] sec [08:52] k. try again. [08:59] xchat just refuses to save it. [08:59] hm. [09:01] hm [09:03] okay last shot [09:03] and then i think i'm done [09:03] i'm awfully tired :) [09:03] dunno, man... the accpet is greyed out and i can't seeem to influence it. [09:04] me too. [09:04] well its just the same popup you'll get tomorrow [09:04] when you do [09:04] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [09:04] so no worry [09:04] you'll see [09:04] k [09:04] i'm headed to bed. [09:04] alright off to bed then [09:04] later [09:05] later === juski [n=juski@spc1-salf3-0-0-cust227.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:13] aha! helps if I join #ubuntu-mythtv, not #mythtv-ubuntu lol [10:14] juski, !!!! [10:14] just FYI guys I've heard that the video wasn't taken in the light it was intended, so I've taken it down. Didn't mean to offend or upset anybody - was only poking fun at folks who can't be bothered to do their research - the shouty, screamy helpless noobs who don't listen. Wasn't meant to be a dig at ubuntu or the fine work of the packagers [10:14] your alive! [10:15] rumours of my demise were greatly exaggerated :-P [10:15] juski, personally i wasnt sure how to interpret it, especially with you dissappearing from here for ages [10:15] i wasnt sure if it was a supposed to be a jab at us, but very glad it isnt :) [10:16] nah, I wouldn't stoop so low [10:16] very good [10:16] glad to hear that [10:16] the internet is forever & I know better than that ;) [10:16] juski, well good news on our parts - i think i've got most of the complaints about passwords straightened out now [10:17] yeah I heard that - taken some getting there ;) [10:17] so hopefully noobs won't act that way and need to do much research :) [10:17] anyway I've gotta run or I'll be late for work! [10:18] juski, btw, i just installed blootube to replace my current theme [10:18] love it [10:18] catch ya later! === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5F79F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-111-191-188.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5F79F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-111-191-188.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-111-191-188.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mythtv.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mythtv.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@80.187.209.48] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-111-191-188.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === illern [n=illern@c83-252-239-167.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@12-226-238-227.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:10] keescook, are you there? === jetsaredim [n=jgreenwa@inet-netcache3-o.oracle.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jetsaredim [n=jgreenwa@inet-netcache3-o.oracle.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [07:36] superm1: here, but really busy. :( [07:36] keescook, oh okay [07:36] keescook, just wanted to touch bases with you since i didnt catch you again yesterday === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5dc2e.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:36] superm1: yeah, I meant to get to testing stuff, but I just haven't had the time yet. [07:37] is there any other freezes coming up before release that could prevent these from getting in if you dont get around to it (should I ping another MOTU to look it over like imbrandon) [07:40] Thursday might be another freeze; never hurts to ping imbrandon. :) [07:41] he's just impossible to get ahold of for an extended period of time sometimes :) [07:42] i [07:42] 'll put the HD home run patch in [07:42] and make sure things still build fine [07:42] and then make a debdiff, [07:42] probably easier for any other MOTU to look over changes then [07:42] awsome, thanks. Can you test that one, too? It seems like it adds some stuff to the mpeg2 handlers, regardless of hdhomerun-ness [07:43] i'll have to build it for dapper then too (my backend is dapper), but sure that shouldn't be too much trouble [07:43] keescook, one more thing before i let you scurry back off to canonical stuff [07:43] :) sure [07:44] there is a lot of interest for 0.20-fixes packages that are more closely tracked to the 0.20-fixes branch [07:44] do you think its a safe idea to have a weekly cron job on imbrandon's server once things are going [07:44] that will do a checkout and automatically build a deb [07:44] for those that want it? [07:44] (well, deb(s)) [07:45] sure, that's a great idea; it can give us a sense of how stable the branch is, to support requests for doing -updates uploads. :) [07:45] okay, i'll look into how difficult assembling such a script for the cron job is, i don't anticipate it to be horrible [07:45] lots and lots to do all of a sudden :) [07:46] keescook, i'll catch up with you later hten [07:46] okay, sweet. thanks for all the work! === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === majoridiot [n=majoridi@74-141-134-199.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:12] keescook, just tested the package with HD Home run changes [10:12] works fine on my dapper backend [10:12] superm1: that's good news. :) [10:12] hola superm1 [10:12] hey majoridiot [10:23] keescook, there is indeed a universe freeze thursday [10:23] keescook, i'll keep watching out for an open MOTU to upload if you dont then :) [10:30] hm. dubstar_04 updated his feisty box ond now no mythtv menus [10:31] nothing has changed that should cause that - [10:31] unless he had opengl turned on [10:31] and nvidia drivers didnt update [10:31] i'm wondering if a kernel update broke his opengl [10:31] hehe [10:31] :) [10:31] hope thats all it is [10:33] i'm on it. [10:40] kernel update- switch to QT sorted it :) [10:41] just saw [10:41] vg === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:02] keescook, bddebian got it uploaded :) [12:03] superm1: does marillat use your, uh, stuff? [12:03] superm1: rock on! [12:03] gardengnome, marillat and i stay in touch with regards to changes [12:03] i try to send him my changes after we upload to feisty [12:03] and i watch his changes list for when he does releases [12:03] nice [12:03] so as soon as we have binaries out, i'm going to let him know about our fixes for the pw issues lately [12:04] should the change be incorporated into the guide yet? [12:04] yes [12:04] k [12:05] these should show up in the next day or two [12:05] majoridiot, i let you know the lirc prebuilt modules didnt make it in right? [12:05] i will wait then... until hey are available. it's an easy change. [12:05] i seem to recall telling you [12:06] yes... you did. still refer to your repos on the feisty lirc page [12:06] also, new media page- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_media_Feisty [12:07] majoridiot, looks very nice [12:07] i really love those shiny highlights you put on these screenshots :) [12:07] hehe ty [12:09] majoridiot, i added indentation if thats okay with you :) [12:09] have at, pls. === majoridiot doesn't get defensive about that sorta thing [12:10] gardengnome, why do you ask? [12:10] about marillat [12:11] superm1: i was just wondering really [12:11] majoridiot, i also updated the front page /MythTV to match up with how feisty front page will be looking [12:11] gardengnome, ah okay. wasn't sure something came up [12:11] gardengnome, i saw something brought up on -users about more up to date svn packages [12:11] superm1: yes, looking very nice! [12:11] once i have the hosting with imbrandon straightened out, i'm going to have a repo hosted there that will do weekly packages [12:12] from 0.20-fixes for those interested [12:12] superm1: nice [12:12] who need a very recent fix or anything [12:12] i started the cron script today, looks like it should be pretty straightforward [12:12] okay i gotta run for a bit to meet with a prof. i'll be back in the next hour or two. catch you guys later [12:13] superm1: i think i will try to put together a WOL for mythtv page in the next few days as well [12:13] k. ttyl.