[12:24] <williammanda> with a symbolic link for mythtv?
[12:24] <majoridiot> correct
[12:25] <williammanda> k
[12:25] <majoridiot> :)
[12:25] <williammanda> the lircrc file was much easier to setup...than the other programs
[12:25] <williammanda> setup for mythtv
[12:26] <majoridiot> agreed
[12:26] <majoridiot> i haven't tried to set up anything else
[12:26] <majoridiot> i just did mythtv and modded an existing one for mplayer, for when i use mythvideo
[12:26] <williammanda> once i had a working example...it was just changing things to my taste
[12:27] <majoridiot> yeah... it's great to have an example to tailor for your own tastes
[12:27] <majoridiot> i try to do that whenever possible
[12:27] <williammanda> ok...ty for your help
[12:27] <majoridiot> you are welcome
[12:47] <majoridiot> williammanda: the feisty lirc page, updated with firefly info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty
[04:39] <Xenocide> majoridiot, do you know if there is a front end "player" like the one in windows
[04:40] <majoridiot> huh?
[04:41] <Xenocide> like iw ant something i can just play from a laptop
[04:41] <Xenocide> no full frontend
[04:41] <Xenocide> just a windowed player
[04:42] <Xenocide> they have one in windows you just have a list and you click on what you want to play, obviously its 3rd party not an official player
[04:42] <majoridiot> not to my knowledge.
[04:42] <Xenocide> hm thats sad
[04:42] <majoridiot> you can play the files with media players...
[04:42] <Xenocide> well i want a list and able to automatically skip commercials n st uff
[04:43] <Xenocide> kinda a PIA to run frontend on my laptop
[04:43] <majoridiot> but you'll have to suss the filenames yourself as they are named by date
[04:43] <Xenocide> i guess i could do it in windowed mode
[04:43] <majoridiot> yeah
[04:43] <majoridiot> it's not that big.
[04:43] <majoridiot> runs great windowed
[04:43] <majoridiot> at least for me
[04:45] <Xenocide> ill do it when i get some free ti me
[04:45] <Xenocide> in the guide on help files it tells how to do it windowed?
[04:45] <Xenocide> i sitll haven't fixed the mythvideo crash yet
[04:45] <majoridiot> it's a simple tick box in the frontend setup
[04:45] <Xenocide> k
[04:45] <majoridiot> "run in windowed mode" i believe
[04:45] <Xenocide> simple enough
[04:46] <Xenocide> maybe ill do it right now
[04:52] <superm1> keescook: I saw the bug report for the HDHomerun patch
[04:53] <superm1> keescook: its to bad this naming scheme we adapted from debian-multimedia, otherwise I'd say we might as well just update to the last 0.20-fixes checkout
[04:53] <superm1> via patch
[05:00] <Xenocide> majoridiot, for some reason i cannot get it to connect at all to my backend
[05:01] <majoridiot> your laptop?
[05:02] <Xenocide> yea
[05:03] <majoridiot> did you setup the correct ip and db password?
[05:03] <Xenocide> yup
[05:03] <Xenocide> i checked the mysql.txt
[05:03] <Xenocide> and i ch ecked the mysql.conf to make sure it allowed non localhost connections
[05:05] <majoridiot> is the bind-address 127.0.0.1 commented out of your etc/mysql/my.cnf on your backend?
[05:05] <Xenocide> yup
[05:06] <majoridiot> what error are you getting?
[05:06] <Xenocide> cannot conect to the backend ip
[05:06] <Xenocide> server
[05:08] <majoridiot> cat /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt on the backend and make sure it matches ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[05:08] <majoridiot> on you laptop
[05:10] <Xenocide> it does
[05:10] <Xenocide> exactly
[05:10] <Xenocide> eh
[05:10] <Xenocide> wait
[05:10] <Xenocide> yea
[05:10] <Xenocide> let me try and logout though
[05:11] <Xenocide> nope
[05:13] <majoridiot> does the frontend launch at all?
[05:14] <Xenocide> yup
[05:14] <Xenocide> just gives that the backend can't be reached
[05:14] <majoridiot> is the backend running?
[05:15] <Xenocide> well someone is watching tv so i would assume :)
[05:15] <Xenocide> has to be
[05:15] <majoridiot> do you have more than one tuner?
[05:15] <Xenocide> yup
[05:15] <majoridiot> dunno then.
[05:15] <Xenocide> all i was trying to do was get to the recordings
[05:15] <Xenocide> so it don't matter
[05:15] <majoridiot> no reason it shouldn't connect
[05:16] <majoridiot> run the frontend from a command line
[05:16] <majoridiot> and see what kind of errors it spits out
[05:17] <Xenocide> its trying to connect to the backend server on localhost
[05:17] <Xenocide> i didn't see a backend server option in mythfrontend
[05:17] <Xenocide> only sql
[05:18] <majoridiot> you don't have the address set correctly then.
[05:18] <Xenocide> i have it set to the IP address
[05:18] <Xenocide> and i know thats the ip
[05:18] <Xenocide> cuz i can ssh to it
[05:18] <majoridiot> cut and paste the result of:
[05:18] <majoridiot> cat ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[05:19] <Xenocide> xeno@xeno-laptop:/etc/mythtv$ cat mysql.txt
[05:19] <Xenocide> DBHostName=192.168.1.122
[05:19] <Xenocide> DBUserName=mythtv
[05:19] <Xenocide> DBName=mythconverg
[05:19] <Xenocide> DBPassword=mythtv
[05:19] <Xenocide> i know the password and login are correct
[05:19] <majoridiot> DBPassword=mythtv?
[05:19] <Xenocide> yea
[05:19] <Xenocide> i changed it to that
[05:20] <Xenocide> haha how is that nonstandard
[05:20] <Xenocide> all i did was change my password
[05:20] <Xenocide> for simplicity sake
[05:20] <majoridiot> yup.
[05:20] <majoridiot> exactly.
[05:23] <Xenocide> ??
[05:24] <majoridiot> in a nutshell...
[05:25] <majoridiot> you have changed your mysql db password... and now you are having problems on a simple connect from a frontend and your mythvideo is doing goofy things...
[05:25] <majoridiot> i have no idea what else might have been done.
[05:26] <Xenocide> everything worked until i installed that new imdb script
[05:26] <Xenocide> i think this is unrelated from that
[05:28] <majoridiot> can you log into mysql from your laptop?
[05:44] <Xenocide> how would i do that
[07:23] <majoridiot> worst... drivers... ever.
[07:28] <superm1> lol
[07:28] <superm1> majoridiot, what happened?
[07:28] <superm1> still no tv out?
[07:28] <majoridiot> not worth anything.
[07:28] <superm1> what a shame
[07:29] <majoridiot> tried installing the newest ati blob... wouldn't build for xorg 7.2, even tho it was calimed to support
[07:29] <superm1> oh the latest one does build for xorg 7.2
[07:29] <superm1> you have to build debs though
[07:29] <superm1> in the fashion of
[07:29] <majoridiot> found a page that gave a nice turn-it-into-a-deb and install... very nice.
[07:29] <superm1> --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty
[07:29] <majoridiot> but had to patch for the kernel
[07:30] <majoridiot> yeah
[07:30] <majoridiot> did that
[07:30] <superm1> oh you know what, the 2.6.20 patch isn't in the latest public release
[07:30] <majoridiot> and the kernel patch
[07:30] <superm1> i forgot about that
[07:30] <majoridiot> how fekkin pointless is it to release a driver that
[07:30] <majoridiot> ARRRGH
[07:31] <majoridiot> radeon 9600 for sale... you pay the postage and it's yours.
[07:31] <superm1> haha
[07:31] <superm1> thanks but no thanks :0
[07:31] <majoridiot> anyway, the blobs just dumped the core on aticonfig
[07:31] <majoridiot> thought i got all the bits out and just installed the latest ubuntu package
[07:31] <majoridiot> but something's still borked.
[07:32] <majoridiot> there's a picture... it's kinda jumpy
[07:32] <superm1> its kinda jumpy?
[07:32] <majoridiot> and fglrxinfo just laughs
[07:32] <majoridiot> stutters
[07:32] <superm1> did you enable xv output?
[07:33] <superm1> *xv overlay
[07:33] <majoridiot> yes
[07:33] <majoridiot> there's residual nastiness messing it up
[07:33] <superm1> yea i know what you mean
[07:33] <majoridiot> bil@mythbox:~$ fglrxinfo
[07:33] <majoridiot> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:33] <majoridiot> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:33] <majoridiot> Error: unable to open display :0
[07:34] <superm1> xhost +
[07:34] <superm1> and then try that again
[07:34] <majoridiot> nope.
[07:34] <majoridiot> nice thought, tho.
[07:34] <majoridiot> :)
[07:35] <superm1> well situations like what you hit are the exact reason why i dont advocate ati cards when possible :)
[07:35] <superm1> even to windows people
[07:35] <majoridiot> it was fine in windows... for what i needed it for.
[07:35] <majoridiot> but i switched to nvidia after 3 weeks of this tripe last summer
[07:36] <majoridiot> only trying to get it to work because it has composite out and my crappy old tv is composite in
[07:36] <superm1> ah
[07:37] <majoridiot> np if i could find a freakin 470pf capacitor, but no go.  radio shack apparently has stopped carrying actual useful things.
[07:38] <superm1> haha
[07:38] <superm1> they do sell ready made adapters you know..
[07:38] <superm1> well that i might be able to do....
[07:38] <majoridiot> not cheap, they don't.
[07:39] <superm1> i'll see if i have them later on
[07:39] <superm1> oh well with my emp discount the adapters are like 5 bucks tops
[07:39] <majoridiot> egads.
[07:52] <superm1> majoridiot, did keescook come back around?
[07:52] <superm1> this evening while i was at work?
[07:52] <majoridiot> not that i saw
[07:52] <superm1> wonder if he got around to looking at the packaging changes then
[07:53] <superm1> i didnt see an upload or anything
[07:53] <majoridiot> didn't see him.
[07:55] <majoridiot> i took care of everything we discussed earlier, guide-wise...
[07:56] <majoridiot> and cleaned up the feisty lirc page a little more
[07:56] <majoridiot> (even fixed the fesity pages LOL)
[07:56] <superm1> oh very good
[07:56] <superm1> i'll take a look around tomorrow afternoon
[07:57] <majoridiot> i'll try and go through them again, again
[07:58] <majoridiot> they should probably be posted soon
[07:58] <superm1> i remember doing all this with the edgy pages :)
[07:58] <superm1> its amazing how much you catch time after time
[07:58] <majoridiot> it's amazing how much will stay the same since you have the packages sewn up so sweetly
[07:59] <superm1> i changed up the troubleshooting page earlier
[07:59] <superm1> to reflect how things should be with regard to group membership etc
[08:00] <majoridiot> yeah... i checked that.  major revisions.
[08:00] <majoridiot> hopefully those days are winding to a close
[08:01] <superm1> yes
[08:01] <majoridiot> it will be nice to be able to move onto helping specific configurations instead of just getting the basic one functioning
[08:01] <majoridiot> :)
[08:02] <superm1> we gonna be ready for putting these on the front page Thur you think ?
[08:02] <majoridiot> i think so
[08:03] <majoridiot> unless you find something completely out of line that i missed
[08:03] <superm1> vg
[08:03] <majoridiot> afaic they are good to go when you say so
[08:03] <superm1> havent yet
[08:03] <superm1> if i will, i will for sure let you know
[08:07] <majoridiot> i still want to write a blurb about overall changes/improvements for feisty...
[08:07] <majoridiot> improved installer for password, ALSA by default, setapackages, etc.
[08:10] <superm1> ivtv, lirc,
[08:10] <superm1> and lots more stuff
[08:10] <majoridiot> right
[08:10] <superm1> there really has been a lot that got done over the last 6 months
[08:10] <superm1> where did you want to put this blurb?
[08:11] <majoridiot> at the top of the feisty_top menu under a "what's new"
[08:11] <majoridiot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/FeistyTop
[08:12] <majoridiot> Right above the installation... "What's new in MythTV for Feisty Fawn"
[08:12] <superm1> Like a "Whats changed" link?
[08:12] <superm1> or just list it all
[08:12] <majoridiot> look if you like, get right to the install otherwise.
[08:12] <majoridiot> a link
[08:15] <superm1> ah okay
[08:15] <superm1> sounds good
[08:17] <majoridiot> look at that link again
[08:17] <majoridiot> (goes nowhere)
[08:18] <superm1> ah right
[08:18] <superm1> i'm thinking of re-ordering/re-wording some of that stuff
[08:19] <majoridiot> i just built it from the edgy entries
[08:19] <majoridiot> agree that it could be better
[08:19] <superm1> here let me try something
[08:19] <superm1> see what you think
[08:19] <majoridiot> k
[08:26] <superm1> take a look
[08:27] <superm1> is that too basic
[08:27] <majoridiot> works very well for me, dude
[08:27] <majoridiot> organized and to the point
[08:29] <superm1> vg
[08:29] <superm1> i'll let you know tomorrow of anything big i catch on the pages as i keep looking, otherwise i'll fix anything small i catch
[08:29] <majoridiot> vg
[08:30] <superm1> ah good ssh is in the what next now
[08:30] <superm1> good good
[08:32] <superm1> the only big thing standing out right now will be the changes reflected by my packaging changes when uploaded
[08:32] <superm1> which will be easy to pull out
[08:32] <majoridiot> very easy
[08:32] <majoridiot> can be done all at once very easily
[08:34] <majoridiot> tomorrow i'll set up mysql qith a root and then install from the new package to test it
[08:34] <majoridiot> and cap the prompt
[08:34] <majoridiot> ;)
[08:36] <superm1> qith a root?
[08:36] <majoridiot> with a root password
[08:36] <majoridiot> typo
[08:39] <superm1> ah
[08:39] <superm1> its just a matter of running dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database afterwords
[08:39] <superm1> to put that password in
[08:40] <majoridiot> mythtv-database?
[08:40] <majoridiot> the cap says mythtv-common
[08:42] <superm1> really...
[08:43] <superm1> should be mythtv-database from what i setup.  reconfiguring mythtv-common will change other things instead
[08:46] <superm1> that cap is just telling you your current password for the mythtv mysql user
[08:46] <superm1> what i'm referring to is this one that you get for updating the database
[08:46] <majoridiot> ah
[08:47] <superm1> i'll dcc it in a sec
[08:47] <superm1> just need to reinstall the package to show ya
[08:50] <majoridiot> sec
[08:52] <majoridiot> k.  try again.
[08:59] <majoridiot> xchat just refuses to save it.
[08:59] <majoridiot> hm.
[09:01] <superm1> hm
[09:03] <superm1> okay last shot
[09:03] <superm1> and then i think i'm done
[09:03] <superm1> i'm awfully tired :)
[09:03] <majoridiot> dunno, man... the accpet is greyed out and i can't seeem to influence it.
[09:04] <majoridiot> me too.
[09:04] <superm1> well its just the same popup you'll get tomorrow
[09:04] <superm1> when you do
[09:04] <superm1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[09:04] <superm1> so no worry
[09:04] <superm1> you'll see
[09:04] <majoridiot> k
[09:04] <majoridiot> i'm headed to bed.
[09:04] <superm1> alright off to bed then
[09:04] <superm1> later
[09:05] <majoridiot> later
[10:13] <juski> aha!  helps if I join #ubuntu-mythtv, not #mythtv-ubuntu lol
[10:14] <superm1> juski, !!!!
[10:14] <juski> just FYI guys I've heard that the video wasn't taken in the light it was intended, so I've taken it down.  Didn't mean to offend or upset anybody - was only poking fun at folks who can't be bothered to do their research - the shouty, screamy helpless noobs who don't listen.  Wasn't meant to be a dig at ubuntu or the fine work of the packagers
[10:14] <superm1> your alive!
[10:15] <juski> rumours of my demise were greatly exaggerated :-P
[10:15] <superm1> juski, personally i wasnt sure how to interpret it, especially with you dissappearing from here for ages
[10:15] <superm1> i wasnt sure if it was a supposed to be a jab at us, but very glad it isnt :)
[10:16] <juski> nah, I wouldn't stoop so low
[10:16] <superm1> very good
[10:16] <superm1> glad to hear that
[10:16] <juski> the internet is forever & I know better than that ;)
[10:16] <superm1> juski, well good news on our parts - i think i've got most of the complaints about passwords straightened out now
[10:17] <juski> yeah I heard that - taken some getting there ;)
[10:17] <superm1> so hopefully noobs won't act that way and need to do much research :)
[10:17] <juski> anyway I've gotta run or I'll be late for work!
[10:18] <superm1> juski, btw, i just installed blootube to replace my current theme
[10:18] <superm1> love it
[10:18] <superm1> catch ya later!
[07:10] <superm1> keescook, are you there?
[07:36] <keescook> superm1: here, but really busy.  :(
[07:36] <superm1> keescook, oh okay
[07:36] <superm1> keescook, just wanted to touch bases with you since i didnt catch you again yesterday
[07:36] <keescook> superm1: yeah, I meant to get to testing stuff, but I just haven't had the time yet.
[07:37] <superm1> is there any other freezes coming up before release that could prevent these from getting in if you dont get around to it (should I ping another MOTU to look it over like imbrandon)
[07:40] <keescook> Thursday might be another freeze; never hurts to ping imbrandon.  :)
[07:41] <superm1> he's just impossible to get ahold of for an extended period of time sometimes :)
[07:42] <superm1> i
[07:42] <superm1> 'll put the HD home run patch in
[07:42] <superm1> and make sure things still build fine
[07:42] <superm1> and then make a debdiff,
[07:42] <superm1> probably easier for any other MOTU to look over changes then
[07:42] <keescook> awsome, thanks.  Can you test that one, too?  It seems like it adds some stuff to the mpeg2 handlers, regardless of hdhomerun-ness
[07:43] <superm1> i'll have to build it for dapper then too (my backend is dapper), but sure that shouldn't be too much trouble
[07:43] <superm1> keescook, one more thing before i let you scurry back off to canonical stuff
[07:43] <keescook> :) sure
[07:44] <superm1> there is a lot of interest for 0.20-fixes packages that are more closely tracked to the 0.20-fixes branch
[07:44] <superm1> do you think its a safe idea to have a weekly cron job on imbrandon's server once things are going
[07:44] <superm1> that will do a checkout and automatically build a deb
[07:44] <superm1> for those that want it?
[07:44] <superm1> (well, deb(s))
[07:45] <keescook> sure, that's a great idea; it can give us a sense of how stable the branch is, to support requests for doing -updates uploads.  :)
[07:45] <superm1> okay, i'll look into how difficult assembling such a script for the cron job is, i don't anticipate it to be horrible
[07:45] <superm1> lots and lots to do all of a sudden :)
[07:46] <superm1> keescook, i'll catch up with you later hten
[07:46] <keescook> okay, sweet.  thanks for all the work!
[10:12] <superm1> keescook, just tested the package with HD Home run changes
[10:12] <superm1> works fine on my dapper backend
[10:12] <keescook> superm1: that's good news.  :)
[10:12] <majoridiot> hola superm1
[10:12] <superm1> hey majoridiot
[10:23] <superm1> keescook, there is indeed a universe freeze thursday
[10:23] <superm1> keescook, i'll keep watching out for an open MOTU to upload if you dont then :)
[10:30] <majoridiot> hm. dubstar_04 updated his feisty box ond now no mythtv menus
[10:31] <superm1> nothing has changed that should cause that -
[10:31] <superm1> unless he had opengl turned on
[10:31] <superm1> and nvidia drivers didnt update
[10:31] <majoridiot> i'm wondering if a kernel update broke his opengl
[10:31] <majoridiot> hehe
[10:31] <superm1> :)
[10:31] <superm1> hope thats all it is
[10:33] <majoridiot> i'm on it.
[10:40] <majoridiot> kernel update- switch to QT sorted it :)
[10:41] <superm1> just saw
[10:41] <superm1> vg
[12:02] <superm1> keescook, bddebian got it uploaded :)
[12:03] <gardengnome> superm1: does marillat use your, uh, stuff?
[12:03] <keescook> superm1: rock on!
[12:03] <superm1> gardengnome, marillat and i stay in touch with regards to changes
[12:03] <superm1> i try to send him my changes after we upload to feisty
[12:03] <superm1> and i watch his changes list for when he does releases
[12:03] <gardengnome> nice
[12:03] <superm1> so as soon as we have binaries out, i'm going to let him know about our fixes for the pw issues lately
[12:04] <majoridiot> should the change be incorporated into the guide yet?
[12:04] <superm1> yes
[12:04] <majoridiot> k
[12:05] <superm1> these should show up in the next day or two
[12:05] <superm1> majoridiot, i let you know the lirc prebuilt modules didnt make it in right?
[12:05] <majoridiot> i will wait then... until hey are available.  it's an easy change.
[12:05] <superm1> i seem to recall telling you
[12:06] <majoridiot> yes... you did.  still refer to your repos on the feisty lirc page
[12:06] <majoridiot> also, new media page- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_media_Feisty
[12:07] <superm1> majoridiot, looks very nice
[12:07] <superm1> i really love those shiny highlights you put on these screenshots :)
[12:07] <majoridiot> hehe ty
[12:09] <superm1> majoridiot, i added indentation if thats okay with you :)
[12:09] <majoridiot> have at, pls.
[12:10] <superm1> gardengnome, why do you ask?
[12:10] <superm1> about marillat
[12:11] <gardengnome> superm1: i was just wondering really
[12:11] <superm1> majoridiot, i also updated the front page /MythTV to match up with how feisty front page will be looking
[12:11] <superm1> gardengnome, ah okay.  wasn't sure something came up
[12:11] <superm1> gardengnome, i saw something brought up on -users about more up to date svn packages
[12:11] <majoridiot> superm1: yes, looking very nice!
[12:11] <superm1> once i have the hosting with imbrandon straightened out, i'm going to have a repo hosted there that will do weekly packages
[12:12] <superm1> from 0.20-fixes for those interested
[12:12] <gardengnome> superm1: nice
[12:12] <superm1> who need a very recent fix or anything
[12:12] <superm1> i started the cron script today, looks like it should be pretty straightforward
[12:12] <superm1> okay i gotta run for a bit to meet with a prof.  i'll be back in the next hour or two.  catch you guys later
[12:13] <majoridiot> superm1: i think i will try to put together a WOL for mythtv page in the next few days as well
[12:13] <majoridiot> k. ttyl.