[01:12] <ryanakca> Riddell: if you're still awake, could you please rename kolab.kubuntu.co.uk to groupware.kubuntu.co.uk ?
[01:54] <ryanakca> mhb: Tm_T: ping, got the test server up
[02:06] <jjesse> wow lots of updates
[02:08] <bobesponja> hey all
[02:08] <jjesse> hiya bobesponja
[02:08] <bobesponja> I'm  giving feisty a try
[02:08] <jjesse> is it working right for you?
[02:09] <bobesponja> pretty much
[02:09] <bobesponja> digikam is crashing though, I did rm all  all the config files
[02:09] <bobesponja> jjesse: does digikam work for you?
[02:09] <jjesse> bobesponja: hjave
[02:09] <jjesse> d'oh
[02:10] <jjesse> bobesponja: haven't tried it and have no digital camera on me
[02:10] <bobesponja> jjesse: just start it, it crashes on start
[02:11] <jjesse> bobesponja: it opens for me fine
[02:12] <bobesponja> ok
[02:13] <Jucato> opens fine here as well
[02:17] <bobesponja> I think I know, I remember I compiled it myself a while ago, I'll try a make uninstall
[02:27] <jjesse> i hate hiccups
[02:33] <bobesponja> cool, after unsermake uninstall my old installation and reinstalling digikam, it works fine again :)
[02:35] <jjesse> i hate hiccups
[02:58] <nixternal> ewww unsermake is evil
[02:58] <jjesse> i thought nixternal was evil :)
[02:59] <nixternal> well of course
[03:00] <Jucato> unsermake is probably the lesser evil :D
[03:01] <nixternal> hardy har har
[06:26] <nixternal> Riddell: I went ahead and made changes to the Kubuntu Upgrade stuff in the FeistyUpgrades page on the help wiki
[08:09] <fdoving> Riddell: around? please don't upload that kdebase thing. i have a better solution if kdialog is installed by default.
[08:25] <fdoving> Riddell: please have a look at the last comment in bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/61946
[08:25] <ubotu> Malone bug 61946 in kdebase "[Edgy Data Loss]  umount progress dialog missing" [High,In progress] 
[08:26] <fdoving> Riddell: the wrapper makes the progressdialog appear at once, the errors on unmount will still be there as we use kio_media_mounthelper, we could of course do some magic with other shell commands like pumount etc. if that's desired.
[08:27] <fdoving> off to work. bye.
[10:37] <jetsaredim> why is there no /etc/modules.d?
[01:16] <vprints> Do some strings in adept still come from libadept ?
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> sssh! she just joined - don't talk about her any more :p
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> mornin' Hobbsee :)
[01:34] <Hobbsee> hi LeeJunFan
[01:34] <ryanakca> http://demo.egroupware.org/egw-head/login.php     much better than Kolab :D
[01:34] <ryanakca> except most people will probably be using Kontact..
[03:17] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[03:18] <dinosaur-rus> is there support for "Mustek BearPaw 2400TA Plus" scanner in (K)ubuntu's sane?
[03:20] <alleeHol> dinosaur-rus: if sane supports it, kubuntu supports it ;)   But this sort of question for #kubuntu not #kubuntu-devel
[03:21] <dinosaur-rus> ok
[03:22] <dinosaur-rus> where should Feisty be finally released? :)
[03:23] <ScottK> dinosaur-rus: No development discussion about Feisty should be in #ubuntu+1
[03:23] <ScottK> No/None
[03:23] <ScottK> No/Non (urgh)
[03:24] <dinosaur-rus> uh
[03:24] <dinosaur-rus> it seems to be a hard day for some people :))
[03:26] <dinosaur-rus> well, I won't disturb you... anyway, I need to reboot after big packages update ;)
[04:10] <bddebian> Heya
[04:24] <Mez> Riddell, ping
[04:24] <Mez> or someone who can tell me where an options dissapeared to
[04:25] <Mez> kate
[04:26] <manchicken> anybody else noticing that knetworkmanager is getting confused when you have wireless available but you're plugged in?
[04:28] <manchicken> I just got bit in the ass by bug #78491
[04:28] <ubotu> Malone bug 78491 in network-manager "network-manager insists on connecting to wireless network, even if wireless option is disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78491
[04:51] <Riddell> Mez: pong
[04:56] <nixternal> Riddell: did you take a look at the changes I made to the Kubuntu sections of that upgrading wiki page/
[04:56] <Mez> Riddell, neve rmind, I found the option
[04:58] <Riddell> nixternal: will do once I get back to X
[05:01] <nixternal> ahh, who needs X ;p
[05:02] <nixternal> I need to find out who is hosting the US archive servers and get them to move to something better
[05:02] <nixternal> it is sad when I can get a better download from Australia than I can the US
[05:04] <crimsun> err, aren't forster and prat hosted in the UK datacentre?
[05:06] <nixternal> crimsun: is that where we are getting our downloads from?
[05:07] <nixternal> Canada serves better at times as well
[05:07] <crimsun> nixternal: run host over us.archive, then whois the IPs
[05:09] <crimsun> granted I could be waaay off, but I'm fairly certain the datacentre's not in the USA.
[05:13] <nixternal> United Kingdom, so you are correct
[05:15] <ScottK> Given DMCA and US patent law (software patents), that's probably a better place for it.
[05:17] <nixternal> well, seeing as some of the local university servers have repos, I just need to find out which ones
[05:38] <jeroenvrp> I'm testing the upgrader, but something goes wrong or something is not clear to me!
[05:39] <jeroenvrp> during configuring it gives a dialog, asking to restart ssh, fetchmail, etc
[05:39] <jeroenvrp> pressing enter, only makes the (block)cursor go one line further
[05:40] <jeroenvrp> so I'm stuck in the configurationprocess
[05:40] <jeroenvrp> during "configuring libssl"
[05:43] <Riddell> ** test RC candidates https://www.stgraber.org/ubuntu/isotesting/
[05:45] <jeroenvrp> Riddell: I am testing the upgrade process from edgy to the current feisty
[05:46] <jeroenvrp> or was your topic-change not meant for me?
[05:54] <Riddell> jeroenvrp: please do
[05:54] <Riddell> jeroenvrp: what version of KDE do you have?
[05:55] <jeroenvrp> Riddell: it is a edgy system
[05:55] <jeroenvrp> no extra repos, updated as well
[05:58] <Riddell> groovy
[06:01] <jeroenvrp> anyhow
[06:01] <jeroenvrp> I now just uses the commandline
[06:01] <jeroenvrp> maybe it was related to the fact that I first triied it over ssh
[06:02] <jeroenvrp> so forget it
[06:02] <ScottK> If you were trying to do it over SSH, that would definitely explain it.
[06:06] <jeroenvrp> I thought so
[08:44] <jeroenvrp> I'm going to test the RC's
[08:44] <jeroenvrp> on a laptop
[08:45] <jeroenvrp> promedion
[08:45] <jeroenvrp> something I should know?! or write down!?
[08:58] <jeroenvrp> where to download the RCcand-iso's!?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> jeroenvrp: read /topic
[09:01] <jeroenvrp> gnomefreak: yes I know, but I dont see any download link
[09:01] <jeroenvrp> or should I log in?>
[09:02] <gnomefreak> they might not be finished yet
[09:03] <jeroenvrp> I thought they where, because Riddell asks us to test
[09:03] <gnomefreak> my connection is maxed out atm
[09:03] <gnomefreak> im looking but taking forever to load page. forever == >4minutes
[09:04] <gnomefreak> did you check kubuntu.org
[09:04] <gnomefreak> looking for beta 5 or rc1
[09:04] <jeroenvrp> yes I did
[09:05] <jeroenvrp> https://www.stgraber.org/ubuntu/isotesting/test/45
[09:05] <jeroenvrp> you should expect it there
[09:05] <ScottK> https://www.stgraber.org/ubuntu/isotesting/ is where I found it.
[09:05] <gnomefreak> maybe on the daily images site just look for 20070411
[09:06] <gnomefreak> i clicked on wher ei think it is but again taking forever
[09:06] <ScottK> That's what the text on the site says.
[09:06] <gnomefreak> i was thinking under testing schedule
[09:06] <jeroenvrp> ok
[09:07] <jeroenvrp> where is the daily images site?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> !daily
[09:07] <ubotu> Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[09:08] <jeroenvrp> ha
[09:08] <jeroenvrp> I should have know :-)
[10:00] <Tm_T> ryanakca: pong
[10:00] <ryanakca> ?
[10:00] <ryanakca> no clue
[10:00] <Tm_T> 02:54 < ryanakca> mhb: Tm_T: ping, got the test server up
[10:00] <ryanakca> Ah, yes
[10:00] <Tm_T> don't tell me I'm slow
[10:00] <ryanakca> http://89.16.161.77/egroupware/
[10:01] <ryanakca> lol
[10:01] <ryanakca> it'll have a domain eventually, just need to figure a few things out about that part... (aka, which one to use)
[10:02] <Tm_T> I can't help testing tonight, but some other day maybe
[10:02] <Tm_T> maybe tomorrow when I hopefully am in work
[10:03] <ryanakca> kk
[10:36] <ryanakca> What's a big new "feature" in kubuntu feisty?
[10:43] <fdoving> universe and multiverse on by default, dist-upgrader-tool, better adept, new versions of most software.
[11:05] <Daskreech> Riddell: Ping
[11:08] <Daskreech> Mez: Which option?
[11:10] <Daskreech> fdoving: do we have one click media install?
[11:12] <fdoving> Daskreech: one click media install? I don't understand what you mean.
[11:12] <Daskreech> fdoving: Or codec install
[11:12] <fdoving> ah..
[11:12] <fdoving> yes i belive so.
[11:12] <Daskreech> I forget how Ubuntu markets it
[11:12] <fdoving> we did have that for edgy too.. iirc.
[11:13] <Daskreech> fdoving: But no One click Wobbly windows?
[11:13] <fdoving> or atleast an attempt.
[11:13] <fdoving> no, ubuntu have that.
[11:13] <fdoving> but i don't think it works very well.
[11:13] <fdoving> it's a checkbox that replaces the default windeco with compiz.
[11:13] <Daskreech> Well in two releases we wll probably have kwin_composite on by default
[11:13] <fdoving> lets hope so.
[11:14] <fdoving> personally i don't like the idea of making it easy for the user to break (make his system unusable to himself) with ticking an checkbox.
[11:15] <Daskreech> Well it does have a timer to revert
[11:15] <fdoving> ok. good.
[11:15] <fdoving> didn't have that when i tested it a while ago.
[11:22] <Daskreech> Hopefully some artists can give kwin_composite some love
[11:24] <bdmurray> Riddell: ping
[11:41] <jeroenvrp> when I choose dutch as install language it offers me the dutch keyboardmap, it should offer US international (with deadkeys) - 99% of dutch users use this
[11:59] <ryanakca> fdoving: thanks
[12:00] <ryanakca> Daskreech: we have one click media install in the install-mp3 script for amarok
[12:01] <Daskreech> ryanakca: That's not really what I was talking about
[12:02] <ryanakca> ah... well, you can probably add a link to it in KMenu, one way or the other...
[12:03] <ryanakca> have a package just for it, ship it in k-d-s, or something of the sort...
[12:07] <Daskreech> Well what about wma
[12:07] <Daskreech> or movies