=== claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-50-174.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=nathan@216.254.78.190] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:12] Riddell: if you're still awake, could you please rename kolab.kubuntu.co.uk to groupware.kubuntu.co.uk ? === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-51-186.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db440cd.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:54] mhb: Tm_T: ping, got the test server up === thill2708 [n=fsd@66-192-212-199.static.twtelecom.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-51-186.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [02:06] wow lots of updates === bobesponja [n=pat@bas75-1-82-235-231-205.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:08] hey all [02:08] hiya bobesponja [02:08] I'm giving feisty a try [02:08] is it working right for you? [02:09] pretty much [02:09] digikam is crashing though, I did rm all all the config files [02:09] jjesse: does digikam work for you? [02:09] bobesponja: hjave [02:09] d'oh [02:10] bobesponja: haven't tried it and have no digital camera on me [02:10] jjesse: just start it, it crashes on start [02:11] bobesponja: it opens for me fine [02:12] ok [02:13] opens fine here as well [02:17] I think I know, I remember I compiled it myself a while ago, I'll try a make uninstall [02:27] i hate hiccups [02:33] cool, after unsermake uninstall my old installation and reinstalling digikam, it works fine again :) [02:35] i hate hiccups === firephoto_ [n=tom@pool-71-115-234-220.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:58] ewww unsermake is evil [02:58] i thought nixternal was evil :) [02:59] well of course [03:00] unsermake is probably the lesser evil :D [03:01] hardy har har === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-51-186.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-51-186.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchick@adsl-75-37-101-105.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.161.84] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-51-186.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.221.116] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-049-001.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime_ [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57aeda36.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.91.252] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.91.252] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:26] Riddell: I went ahead and made changes to the Kubuntu Upgrade stuff in the FeistyUpgrades page on the help wiki === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.91.252] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchick@ubuntu/member/manchicken] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.221.116] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957943.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.173.40.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:09] Riddell: around? please don't upload that kdebase thing. i have a better solution if kdialog is installed by default. === nrg88 [n=nrg88@86.126.206.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mjunx [n=matt@adsl-75-4-135-43.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:25] Riddell: please have a look at the last comment in bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/61946 [08:25] Malone bug 61946 in kdebase "[Edgy Data Loss] umount progress dialog missing" [High,In progress] [08:26] Riddell: the wrapper makes the progressdialog appear at once, the errors on unmount will still be there as we use kio_media_mounthelper, we could of course do some magic with other shell commands like pumount etc. if that's desired. === marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.179.142] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:27] off to work. bye. === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=administ@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jetsaredim [n=jgreenwa@inet-netcache2-o.oracle.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ScottLij__ [n=scott@66-227-218-192.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nrg88 [n=nrg88@86.126.206.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel === alleeHol [n=ach@lapex-mcallee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=administ@213.253.84.3] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:37] why is there no /etc/modules.d? 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=== manchicken|away [n=manchick@adsl-75-37-101-105.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:30] sssh! she just joined - don't talk about her any more :p [01:30] mornin' Hobbsee :) === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:34] hi LeeJunFan [01:34] http://demo.egroupware.org/egw-head/login.php much better than Kolab :D === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:34] except most people will probably be using Kontact.. === ryanakca --> school === mjunx-sama [n=matt@adsl-75-4-139-58.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.91.252] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sonoftheclayr [n=luke@C-59-101-159-206.mel.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luc_ [n=luc@wall.ic-energo.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LongPointyStick is now known as Hobbsee === alleeHol [n=ach@lapex-mcallee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.179.142] has joined #kubuntu-devel === dinosaur-rus [n=dinosaur@ppp85-140-212-16.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:17] hi [03:18] is there support for "Mustek BearPaw 2400TA Plus" scanner in (K)ubuntu's sane? === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [03:20] dinosaur-rus: if sane supports it, kubuntu supports it ;) But this sort of question for #kubuntu not #kubuntu-devel [03:21] ok === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F3F72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:22] where should Feisty be finally released? :) [03:23] dinosaur-rus: No development discussion about Feisty should be in #ubuntu+1 [03:23] No/None [03:23] No/Non (urgh) [03:24] uh [03:24] it seems to be a hard day for some people :)) === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [03:26] well, I won't disturb you... anyway, I need to reboot after big packages update ;) === sonoftheclayr [n=luke@C-59-101-159-206.mel.connect.net.au] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm23.omega20.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchick@ubuntu/member/manchicken] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=administ@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:10] Heya === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:24] Riddell, ping [04:24] or someone who can tell me where an options dissapeared to [04:25] kate [04:26] anybody else noticing that knetworkmanager is getting confused when you have wireless available but you're plugged in? [04:28] I just got bit in the ass by bug #78491 [04:28] Malone bug 78491 in network-manager "network-manager insists on connecting to wireless network, even if wireless option is disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78491 === alleeHol [n=ach@lapex-mcallee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=administ@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:51] Mez: pong [04:56] Riddell: did you take a look at the changes I made to the Kubuntu sections of that upgrading wiki page/ [04:56] Riddell, neve rmind, I found the option [04:58] nixternal: will do once I get back to X [05:01] ahh, who needs X ;p [05:02] I need to find out who is hosting the US archive servers and get them to move to something better [05:02] it is sad when I can get a better download from Australia than I can the US [05:04] err, aren't forster and prat hosted in the UK datacentre? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchick@ubuntu/member/manchicken] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:06] crimsun: is that where we are getting our downloads from? [05:07] Canada serves better at times as well [05:07] nixternal: run host over us.archive, then whois the IPs [05:09] granted I could be waaay off, but I'm fairly certain the datacentre's not in the USA. [05:13] United Kingdom, so you are correct [05:15] Given DMCA and US patent law (software patents), that's probably a better place for it. [05:17] well, seeing as some of the local university servers have repos, I just need to find out which ones === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:38] I'm testing the upgrader, but something goes wrong or something is not clear to me! [05:39] during configuring it gives a dialog, asking to restart ssh, fetchmail, etc [05:39] pressing enter, only makes the (block)cursor go one line further [05:40] so I'm stuck in the configurationprocess [05:40] during "configuring libssl" === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | test RC candidates https://www.stgraber.org/ubuntu/isotesting/ | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | test KDE 4 "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main" [05:43] ** test RC candidates https://www.stgraber.org/ubuntu/isotesting/ [05:45] Riddell: I am testing the upgrade process from edgy to the current feisty [05:46] or was your topic-change not meant for me? === Hobbsee is now known as LongPointyStick [05:54] jeroenvrp: please do [05:54] jeroenvrp: what version of KDE do you have? [05:55] Riddell: it is a edgy system [05:55] no extra repos, updated as well [05:58] groovy [06:01] anyhow [06:01] I now just uses the commandline [06:01] maybe it was related to the fact that I first triied it over ssh [06:02] so forget it [06:02] If you were trying to do it over SSH, that would definitely explain it. [06:06] I thought so === Daskreech2 is now known as Daskreech === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic is now known as rouzic_ausente === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-89-210.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mjunx [n=matt@adsl-75-4-139-58.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F3F72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away === toma is now known as toma_ === stivani [n=stivani@d5152A75F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["The] === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db440cd.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A72207.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-77156.0x5734b54a.naenxx12.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:44] I'm going to test the RC's [08:44] on a laptop [08:45] promedion [08:45] something I should know?! or write down!? === hunger_t_ [n=tobias@p54A72207.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["The] === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:58] where to download the RCcand-iso's!? === elcuco_ [n=elcuco@bzq-82-81-169-191.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:01] jeroenvrp: read /topic [09:01] gnomefreak: yes I know, but I dont see any download link [09:01] or should I log in?> [09:02] they might not be finished yet [09:03] I thought they where, because Riddell asks us to test [09:03] my connection is maxed out atm [09:03] im looking but taking forever to load page. forever == >4minutes [09:04] did you check kubuntu.org [09:04] looking for beta 5 or rc1 [09:04] yes I did [09:05] https://www.stgraber.org/ubuntu/isotesting/test/45 [09:05] you should expect it there [09:05] https://www.stgraber.org/ubuntu/isotesting/ is where I found it. [09:05] maybe on the daily images site just look for 20070411 [09:06] i clicked on wher ei think it is but again taking forever [09:06] That's what the text on the site says. [09:06] i was thinking under testing schedule [09:06] ok [09:07] where is the daily images site? [09:07] !daily [09:07] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ [09:08] ha [09:08] I should have know :-) === elcuco__ [n=elcuco@bzq-82-81-169-191.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic_ausente is now known as rouzic === stivani [n=stivani@d5152A75F.access.telenet.be] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-154-191.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:00] ryanakca: pong [10:00] ? === ryanakca scratches his head === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:00] no clue [10:00] 02:54 < ryanakca> mhb: Tm_T: ping, got the test server up [10:00] Ah, yes [10:00] don't tell me I'm slow [10:00] http://89.16.161.77/egroupware/ [10:01] lol [10:01] it'll have a domain eventually, just need to figure a few things out about that part... (aka, which one to use) === ryanakca gets pass [10:02] I can't help testing tonight, but some other day maybe [10:02] maybe tomorrow when I hopefully am in work [10:03] kk [10:36] What's a big new "feature" in kubuntu feisty? [10:43] universe and multiverse on by default, dist-upgrader-tool, better adept, new versions of most software. === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-51-186.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:05] Riddell: Ping === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-51-186.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:08] Mez: Which option? [11:10] fdoving: do we have one click media install? [11:12] Daskreech: one click media install? I don't understand what you mean. [11:12] fdoving: Or codec install [11:12] ah.. [11:12] yes i belive so. [11:12] I forget how Ubuntu markets it [11:12] we did have that for edgy too.. iirc. [11:13] fdoving: But no One click Wobbly windows? [11:13] or atleast an attempt. [11:13] no, ubuntu have that. [11:13] but i don't think it works very well. [11:13] it's a checkbox that replaces the default windeco with compiz. [11:13] Well in two releases we wll probably have kwin_composite on by default [11:13] lets hope so. [11:14] personally i don't like the idea of making it easy for the user to break (make his system unusable to himself) with ticking an checkbox. [11:15] Well it does have a timer to revert [11:15] ok. good. [11:15] didn't have that when i tested it a while ago. === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-51-186.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:22] Hopefully some artists can give kwin_composite some love [11:24] Riddell: ping [11:41] when I choose dutch as install language it offers me the dutch keyboardmap, it should offer US international (with deadkeys) - 99% of dutch users use this === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:59] fdoving: thanks [12:00] Daskreech: we have one click media install in the install-mp3 script for amarok [12:01] ryanakca: That's not really what I was talking about [12:02] ah... well, you can probably add a link to it in KMenu, one way or the other... [12:03] have a package just for it, ship it in k-d-s, or something of the sort... [12:07] Well what about wma [12:07] or movies