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confuzedHaSH: looks like it's still trying to install some crap from that other repository.12:14
meook, I'll try that12:15
HaSHconfuzed, i know. but i did apt-get clean then apt-get update. it shouldnt be12:15
confuzedtry using aptitude to install these... this way you can remove that 3.97-0ubuntu0seveas1 from the list of items to be installed.12:15
confuzedThats the only reason I like aptitude over apt-get.... I can modify the list of packages to be installed much more easily12:16
HaSHconfuzed, ok let me give it a go12:16
confuzedrun aptitude in GUI mode...  just sudo aptitude12:16
confuzedmeo: how's it coming.. I gotta run, but was hoping to get you on track12:16
HaSHhm how do i have it select a list..or do i have to manualy select each package i want to install12:16
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meoadept is a folder right?12:17
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confuzedHaSH you manually select the packages to install... it will resolve dependancies.12:17
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confuzedHaSH type '/' to search for a package '+' to install it '-' to remove '_' to purge 'g' to go when your ready12:18
confuzedonce you hit go, it will show you what changes will be made... you can then modify them12:18
confuzedoh and ':' will undo any changes to the package12:19
HaSHconfuzed, ok selecting them now..there was a few i need12:19
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confuzedmeo: adept is a program... under K->System->Adept Manger12:19
cskjhi guys...i am using kubuntu 6.10, i just installed it n i like mozilla firefox alot. I installed version 1.5.6 using synaptic package manager but version 2.0 is out, how can i upgrade to this version12:20
meook, yes i see it. Sorry, I'm still a linux newb :)12:20
confuzedmeo: even easier... use K->System->Software Sources12:20
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eljefeHello does anyone know much about the new Feisty, or about the Ubuntu build process in general?  I was trying to run VMWarePlayer with a virtual Debian (no X) machine and my whole system pretty much slowed to a stop.  Is this a bug worth reporting, or are there optimizations yet to be done before the final release?12:20
confuzedmeo: there you just check a box for universe.12:21
confuzedmeo: then use adept, do an update, and select the app to install, and apply.12:21
Neil-Anyone know a good partition editor? Gparted says it cant display 123 fat partitions, only 1 or 2..12:21
lolthe ubuntu relese 19. april is it heurd 6?12:22
confuzedmeo: gotta run... you will figure it out... if you need help, google: installing packages kubuntu12:22
meook, thanks for your help12:22
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eljefelol: thats the final12:22
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eljefemeo:  whats up?12:22
_spazhow do i change my default boot/shutdown splash?12:22
lolbut now there is only heurd 5?12:22
confuzedGood luck all... hope you have better luck with aptitude HaSH12:22
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_spazand i don't mean the login splash12:22
meonothin much12:22
eljefelol:  there will be a Beta but only one; not sure if it is released yet or not12:23
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eljefemeo: don't need assistance?12:23
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loli have 7.04 now but when the relese come should i re-install? or can it upgrade? or do i nn to do anything?12:23
meoconfuzed said to check a box for universe, but I can't find the universe package12:24
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eljefelol: good question, not sure!  there will probably be release notes when its released, and it'll say in there12:24
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lolok thx12:25
brytanixhi12:25
eljefemeo: Universe isn't a package, its a Repository where you get additional software/packages.  In K->System->Adept you can View->Manage Repositories; turn on Universe there, then select [Fetch Updates] 12:25
eljefemeo: then you have access to more software12:26
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meook, I'm in manager, but I don't see a box to check for universe :(12:29
eljefemeo: get it?12:29
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cskjok so guys i'm tryin to upgrade my version of firefox12:31
cskjcan anyone help me12:31
eljefemeo: about 1/2 way dow it says universe in the 'Components' column; basically I would select any line that starts with '#deb' and right-click it to 'enable' which should remove the # at the beginning of the line so it now starts with 'deb'12:31
cskji'm using version 1.5.612:31
cskjand i wanna install version 2.012:32
cskji'm not very good at installing using konsole12:32
gnomefreakcskj: on dapper?12:32
gnomefreak!firefox | cskj12:32
ubotucskj: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins12:32
gnomefreaktheres the how to12:32
cskjno it's not12:32
cskji am using kubuntu version 6.1012:33
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cskjand the default web browser was konqeurer12:33
cskjthanx i'll try that tho12:33
meook, so if i just enable everything and "fetch updates" I'll be good right?12:33
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thespark_hey! anyone can help me with some wlan problems?12:34
eljefemeo: yep!12:35
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meoThank you :)12:35
eljefemeo: one caveat with my help -- you help someone else along the way!12:36
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eljefe!wlan | thespark_12:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:37
eljefelol12:37
eljefethespark_: whats up?12:37
eljefe!wifi | thespark_12:37
ubotuthespark_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:37
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thespark_:) my stupid dell laptop dont want to connect to my primary wlan(althought all other wlans are working great) and i just cant find out why12:38
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eljefedoes your wlan have encryption?  WPA or WEP?12:39
thespark_ifconfig and iwconfig say i got connection. but ping doesnt work for router ip12:39
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_spazhow do i change my default boot/shutdown splash?12:39
thespark_no i reseted my router to factory to find the problem12:39
_spazand i don't mean the login splash, i mean the thing before that -_-12:39
_spazinstead of a progress bar and the word "kubuntu," i want a different theme12:40
eljefethespark_: sorry mate i am not sure... ask again, someone here may know; if not tonight, another day...12:40
teroI would like to know how to see progress behing the splash..12:40
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eljefe_spaz: no idea mate sorry, i am sure its somewhere but likely *not* in a GUI configuration12:40
_spazit's not -_-12:40
_spazi've looked12:40
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_spazthough it damn well should be12:41
_spazoops...12:41
_spazsorry >_>12:41
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kaaderk12:41
stdin_spaz: seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto ?12:41
kaaderhallo?12:41
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thespark_thx eljefe12:41
_spazstdin: LEMME FIND OUT12:41
_spazoops12:41
_spazsorry12:41
_spazcaps ftl12:41
SlimGthespark_: Have you've tried to just power off your wlan router, wait some seconds and then power it back on?12:42
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thespark_SlimG: restarted my router 9999 times this day i think ;)12:42
unix_infideltime to get a new router.12:43
unix_infidelor make your own :)12:43
_spazhaha12:43
_spazthat would be so hard :p12:43
unix_infidelmake you rown router?12:43
unix_infidelyour own*12:43
_spazstdin: does that apply to edgy too?12:44
SlimGthespark_: You might be able to flash your router to a newer firmware if available12:44
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unix_infidelrouters are cheap.12:44
SlimGthespark_: btw 9999 restarts should suffice ;)12:44
_spazand another thing...i know almost no C -_-12:45
thespark_SlimG: this is right. i also tried. but my router (smc barricade 2804wprb-g) doens't accept all my tries to get him a newer firmware...12:45
stdin_spaz: I think you need *some* programing experience to do it, tho there are probably pre-made themes out there somewhere12:46
thespark_the things that disturbs me is: my desktop has no prob to get an ip from my router. also 3 other laptops i tried worked great.. just MY notebook won't work12:46
_spazstdin: well maybe i could do it...but i'd need some example code12:46
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Jucatocustomizing usplash? I don't think you need to know C.12:48
_spazJucato: explain12:49
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SlimGthespark_: It's a known problem that certain wlan chips just works poorly together, you can build your own wlan router or buy a Linksys WRT54GL if you can't make it work12:51
Jucatonot absolutely sure, but last time I checked, there were utilities to convert your images/animation to code so that you don't have to code them yourself12:51
SlimGthespark_: or change your wlan card12:51
stdin_spaz: agg, Jucato is right, pngtobogl does that for you12:51
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thespark_SlimG: on a notebook?12:51
stdins/agg/ahh/12:51
unix_infidelmost notebooks have modular minipci slots for changing wlan and BT cards.12:52
thespark_i think i just bye me some new routers.... maybe 10-20. on of these MUST work12:52
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_spazstdin: what's pingtobogl?12:53
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SlimGthespark_: most laptops have miniPCI wlan cards, you can remove your current card and replace it with a Intel 2200GB (works great for me), I guess replacing your router is the cheapest option12:53
SlimGand the easiest12:53
Jucato_spaz: it's in the guide12:53
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thespark_yipp think so too. i got two @home but my desktop dont wanna work with the one my laptop works with and i want to syncronisize homefolders..12:54
geniiWRT54 series is great. no complaints cept some have half the ram (series 5)12:54
_spazJucato: guide???12:55
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Jucato<stdin> _spaz: seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto ?12:55
Filthpighmmmm, soon my kubuntu will look exactly like mac os x *grin*12:55
Filthpigbut kxkicker won't work :(12:56
_spazi saw that -_-12:56
unix_infidel12:56
_spazi am no C programmer, as i said12:56
Jucatodid you actually browse through the page?12:56
SlimGgenii: the series 5 is the old series am I right? so if buyng a new WRT54 you wouldn't encounter this issue with half memory size?12:56
Filthpig!baghira12:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about baghira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:57
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Filthpig!osx12:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about osx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:57
Filthpig!kxkicker12:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kxkicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:57
geniiSlimG There were 8Mb on the originals then they cut it down on later models. I forget the exact model names (the part after the 54G) But they also run some alternate bios, just not as flexible like openwrt12:58
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Filthpighmm12:59
SlimGgenii: ok, thanks for clearing that up for me, luckily I've managed to get a hold of the unlimited version myself12:59
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geniiSlimG Anyhow, on the sticker on bottom they say the specific submodel version, so you can chack easily enough01:00
genii*check* typos01:00
_spazJucato: yeah, i did01:01
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Filthpig!kxdocker01:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kxdocker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:01
Filthpighm01:01
_spazJucato: i don't use dapper =P01:01
Jucato_spaz: so now you know what pngtobogl is?01:01
_spazJucato: yes, now i do01:01
joheyI have lost my konqueror. Maybe because I tried to update to feisty and failed. Now I'm trying to run edgy, but konqueror has broken dependencies. Depends: kcontrol (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu13really3.5.5 is to be installed, kdebase-kio-plugins (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu13really3.5.5 is to be installed,kdesktop (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu13really3.5.5 is to be installed, kfind (=01:02
johey4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu13really3.5.5 is to be installed01:02
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_spazO_o01:02
joheyWhat to do?01:02
_spazpastebin, please01:02
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_spazJucato: sorry for giving you a headache =p01:02
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geniijohey you can specify version on apt-get like:   apt-get install <somepackage>=<version you want installed>01:03
johey_spaz: It's only those four dependencies. I didn't think they would override one line. :/01:03
Jucato_spaz: "The implementation for usplash changed from Dapper to Edgy (6.06 - 6.10) and therefore the technique also changed for adjusting it." - from the guide01:03
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joheygenii: Oh. Cool.01:03
_spazJucato: i know01:03
geniieg: apt-get install kcontrol>3.5.5-0ubuntu3.401:03
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Filthpigcan somebody help me wit this? I've tried to install kxdocker with apt, but I get some error, so now I want to install from source (which normally is piece of cake) but when I do sudo make, I get01:03
Filthpig xeplugin_mouse.lo -lXtst libkxdocker.la01:03
Filthpig/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXtst01:03
geniieg: apt-get install kcontrol>3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4 or use =01:03
Filthpighm, not supposed to get those on new lines, sorry01:04
_spazJucato: i don't use dapper...i use feisty >_>01:04
Jucatofeisty uses the same usplash as edgy01:04
Jucato(usplash program)01:04
Jucatoand that guide was updated for Edgy, not Dapper01:04
Jucatoit just mentions special instructions for dapper01:04
_spazJucato: i see now...resume your other support stuffs01:05
_spazand ty01:05
_spaz^^01:05
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Jucatogenii: won't that be a bit difficult to do, considering his problems is from a dist-upgrade that didn't finish?01:05
joheygenii: Hm. What does "is to be installed" mean? Does it mean that kcontrol 3.5.5 is required but 3.5.6 is installed, or is it vice versa?01:06
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geniijohey What it means is that there is a default version that it likes first but you can override that like I showed01:06
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joheyHm. Seems like I have many programs that are in too new versions.01:07
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joheyIs there a simple way to downgrade all packages to the most recent that is in the current apt sources, even though newer has been installed before?01:08
geniieg:  Depends: kcontrol (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu13really3.5.5       means it prefers 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu13really3.5.5   but you could put the other one if you want to01:08
joheygenii: But there seems to be other dependency conflicts when I try to downgrade kcontrol.01:09
geniijohey If this happened from a broken dist-upgrade you really need to try and run it again01:10
joheygenii: Run what again?01:11
geniithe dist-upgrade01:11
joheygenii: Ah. Well, it was not really a broken dist-upgrade. Just a dist-upgrade that I was not completely pleased with, so I wanted to downgrade again.01:12
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Jucatokinda hard to do I guess :)01:14
geniiThe problem now is that you have a lot of mixed packages. Did you alter the sources.list and change the dist name from one to the next when you did the upgrade?01:15
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os2macanyone ever have problems with knetwork manager showing the incorrect status.01:15
Jucatohm... :)01:15
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geniijohey Anyhow, if the method you did involved replacing for instance Dapper with Edgy in sources.list, you can change it back, then do again an apt-get dist-upgrade01:17
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geniiIf it was from Edgy to Feisty thats more problemmatic01:17
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joheygenii: Well... I did that too. I have done very nasty things to my system, I believe. :)01:18
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geniiheh :)01:18
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joheygenii: However, now everything works as I want it too, except for the missing konqueror.01:18
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joheyJucato: :)01:18
geniijohey Well, if only the one app, then you may chance the forcing version way i showed earlier. you can force it to the other one if that one doesn't work. One of em should01:20
Red_Tearhi... got a problem01:20
Red_TearI?m just upgrading from dapper to edgy01:20
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Red_Tearand now he is actualy Configuring vmware-player and there is a licence i have to agree to, how do i?01:21
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roothi can someone help me?01:22
JucatoRed_Tear: in Adept? you'll have to do that using apt-get in the command line01:22
joheygenii: I think I can figure out something thanks to your hints. Else, I will cry some more.01:22
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rooti got trouble with my login screen01:22
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Admiral_Chicagoroot: if you ask your question01:22
Red_TearJucato yes i am doing it in command line01:22
geniijohey OK, good luck. I'll be around a while anyhow if you get questions01:22
Red_Tearand at the moment it shows a licence agreement to me and i dont know how to accept it01:23
JucatoRed_Tear: use your cursor keys to select the Accept/OK button and press Enter?01:23
rootwhen i login (kubuntu 6.10) the screen turns black and shows my login screen again01:23
SlimGroot: you're root, you'll figure it out easily ;)01:23
Filthpigwell01:23
Admiral_ChicagoRed_Tear: perhaps tab01:23
rootwell, recovery mode and startx :p01:23
Admiral_Chicagoroot: sudo dpkg01:23
Jucatoroot: try checking if you have enough disk space left01:23
Red_Tearworks, thanks01:23
Admiral_Chicagoerr01:23
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Jucatomoin Admiral_Chicago01:23
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Admiral_Chicagosudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:24
rooti got a diskspace error when i tried copying a file01:24
Admiral_Chicagoroot: try that01:24
Jucatoer?01:24
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: moin?01:24
Jucatomoin = hello/good day01:24
Admiral_Chicagoah, should have just said something like this: "hey there Jucato :)!!!!"01:24
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin01:25
rootJucato: wich parameters for dpkg01:25
rootbrb get AC adapter01:25
Jucatoroot: that explains it, you need to free up some space01:25
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Jucatoroot: "df -h" will show you how much space you have left01:25
danny500finally01:26
danny500reinstalled Ubuntu an all is good now lol01:26
danny500:D01:26
Admiral_Chicagoah, thought it might be a problem with X server01:26
joheygenii: I do a complete dist-upgrade to feisty again. I don't remember what I did not like about it. :)01:26
Jucatooh wb danny50001:26
danny500hehe01:26
danny500DCOP wouldn't work01:26
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: could be, but he was able to get the login screen up01:26
geniiheh!01:27
danny500hi01:27
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Admiral_Chicagoah, thought the issue was going from KDM to his log in session01:27
joheygenii: I think there was something with Digikam that did not work as I wanted to, but I'll see about that. Hehe.01:27
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: ah. he meant that after logging in, he just gets thrown back to the login screen again.01:28
rootJucato: / is 100% in use :01:28
Jucatoroot: well, free up some space :)01:28
danny5000_001:28
rootthat will fix it?01:28
danny500how big is your hard drive root?01:28
Jucatotry "sudo apt-get clean" to try to clean up the APT cache (saved .deb from apt-get)01:28
root120gb danny50001:29
danny500!!! what did you fill it with? lol01:29
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rootseries, CSI, NCIS, TopGear01:29
rootbut not on /01:29
danny500oh ok01:29
danny500you can get a good sized 300GB for like $12001:29
Jucatooooh CSI and NCIS :D01:30
danny500nice01:30
roothow do you remove a directory Command Line01:31
rootJucato:  NCIS rules01:31
Jucatoroot: did you try the command I gave above?01:31
Jucatobefore you go deleting other files01:31
rootyes, and / was 100% in use01:31
Jucatono not that01:32
don_jr__How can I empty trashbin with su?01:32
Jucato<Jucato> try "sudo apt-get clean" to try to clean up the APT cache (saved .deb from apt-get)01:32
danny500lol01:32
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Jucatoroot:  that one ^^^^01:32
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Admiral_Chicagodon_jr__: i think its in ~/.trash iirc01:32
danny500...... / is your Linux partition lol01:32
don_jr__Admiral_Chicago thanks01:33
roothow do i remove dirs commandline01:33
rootrm -f?01:33
Admiral_Chicagoroot: rmdir01:33
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Jucatoroot: <Jucato> try "sudo apt-get clean" to try to clean up the APT cache (saved .deb from apt-get)01:33
rootdid that already01:33
Admiral_Chicagobut they have to be empty to so you may need to run sudo rm -r01:33
Jucatoroot: still 100%?01:34
rootonly 92% Jucato01:34
root:D01:34
root85% now01:34
Jucatoso now try to login normally again01:34
rootok01:34
rootfirst, i must reboot01:35
rootto get into normal mode01:35
rootsee you01:35
rooti'l be back to report01:35
rootand i think i have to remove the trash things01:35
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root:p01:35
Admiral_ChicagoI will be here01:35
Jucatook starving now :)01:36
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geggam!plf01:38
ubotuThe Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas01:38
genii!flq01:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:39
geniihm01:39
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rootw00t it worked01:39
Filthpigwell01:40
Filthpigwhy are you root?01:40
Filthpigheh01:40
rootcouldnt find another name01:40
rootnot logged in as root @ linux now01:40
Filthpigk01:40
rootbut it would be clearer for you that it is me01:41
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Tukznot root anymore01:41
Admiral_ChicagoTukz: good to know01:41
Filthpigcan somebody give me a hint to where I can get some help with the kxdocker?01:41
geniiAre there any good Kubuntu how-to videos? I'm distributing these boxes to ex-windows types so looking for something comprehensive to put on their desktop as some starting tutorials.01:42
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Filthpiggenii: I've been thinking about that myself01:42
FilthpigI don't think there is anything01:42
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geniiI've seen some Gnome ones but only a handful of KDE ones01:43
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Filthpigbut there should be some sort of introduction to linux/kubuntu the first time you run it01:43
Filthpigif you want to, of course01:43
geniiEven tho many of the apps are the same I don't want to overly confuse them at first ;)01:43
Ace2016Hi all :)01:43
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geniiFilthpig: Well, for the moment i put the Konqueror link to the Kubuntu Introduction there.01:44
Filthpiggenii: My thought is sort of a walkthrough for people who are totally new to Linux. "From windows you might be used to doing this or that, but with Linux it's this way"01:44
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Filthpiginteractive walkthrough, that is01:45
geniiHmm01:45
geniiI may be forced anyhow to make some. If so, I'll post them someplace we all can get them01:45
Filthpigit'll probably be quite a job, but I think it'll make the change a lot easier01:46
geniiMy boss is resorting right now to filming an LCD screen with a regular camera then importing the footage back in01:46
Filthpigouch01:46
geniiyeh01:46
geniiAt least no flickers :)01:46
Filthpighehe :)01:46
Filthpigwould like to see somebody try to make sense out of a screen with white and black stripes running over it at all times01:47
geniiSounds like wrong driver01:47
Filthpighuh?01:47
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hitmanWillyits the new Zany Zebra release!!01:47
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hitmanWilly:)01:48
FilthpigI mean filming a CRT screen01:48
geniiI had that when I tried vesa for i810 chipset. the gui was fine but consoles messy01:48
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FilthpighitmanWilly: hahahah :D01:48
geniiFilthpig: Ah, OK :)01:48
Filthpigbut again, no clues as to where I can get some help with kxdocker?01:48
Filthpig:s01:49
geniiWhen ppl ask about versions like 10.6 or so on i think about Temporal Tarsiers. They are weird looking things01:49
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geniiIs the symptom something like "kxdocker doesn't open in Edgy?" I see a launchpad site with that title01:50
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geniieg: bug #7486201:51
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chin1was it me or did i see a program named dvdrip in the repos ?01:52
geggam!k9copy01:52
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:52
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geggam!istanbul01:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about istanbul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:52
geggamheh01:52
geggam!xvidcap01:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xvidcap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:53
Tukzwhat's the best tool for monitoring c01:54
TukzCPU01:54
Tukzand processes01:54
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geggamtop01:55
alex__holas, buenas noches.01:55
geniitop01:55
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geggamhey genii ... if u use istanbul or xvidcap u can make videos of the desktop01:55
geniiKDE has a gui to it I trhink01:55
Tukzsomehow everytime i am watching a video, my system starts slowing down01:55
alex__hello, is possible to view videos divx, xvid in my Kubuntu?01:56
geggam!medibuntu01:56
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/01:56
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geniigeggam I saw an X driver of "recorder" which I believe streams to a file01:56
geggamhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Screencast-Guide-Capure-Your-Linux-Desktop-on-Video-42626.shtml01:56
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geniigeggam cool, I'll look into it01:56
geggami dont have the time to do something like that at this time01:57
geggamcrap01:57
geniiIf i can get my old Rage II with S-Video out working I may just patch it in the VCR or so01:58
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alex__ubotu01:58
alex__i execute this01:58
alex__sudo wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/sources.list.d/edgy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list01:58
alex__: GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release: Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pblica no est disponible: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A278301:59
don_jr__will screen saver coming on while I'm doing a 'make' bother it any?01:59
alex__oooouch!01:59
geniinah01:59
alex__excuse me!!01:59
alex__wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -01:59
geniiUnless you're compiling something to do with the screensaver system. Even then file-locking should prevent issues02:00
don_jr__Genii thanks, just making sure.  nothing to do with screensavers, configureing wine02:00
geniidon_jr__: np02:00
genii!es > alex__02:01
melvincan anyone tell me if it is better to run 6.06 Dapper or 6.10 Edgy on an AMD64 5000+02:03
melvinrunning Dapper 6.06 now02:03
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don_jr__I have an 800 mhz pentium 3 and edgy runs great!02:03
melvinyeah but I would like to know, cause i have some issues with my Creative X-Fi Fatality :/02:04
geniiI salvaged an old dual cpu P3 Dell, and had 2 350Mhz  in there, just put in 2 1GhZ slot1 I got now :) Will see how it goes02:04
melvinwon't work02:04
alex__is possible to install beryl in my compaq d31?02:04
alex__512 Mb _Ram02:05
alex__64 Mb Video Ram02:05
genii(Worked A-OK with the old chips)02:05
alex__p402:05
melvindunno what beryl is mate >.<02:05
melvinI'm allready thrilled I got Kubuntu going myself :D02:05
don_jr__Crap, I have stuff in my trash bin that won't let me delete it, how can I get it out with kdesu? or sudo?  when I do a 'locate' for what's in it it doesn't bring anything up.02:06
geniialex__:  You may get a more definitive answer to that in the channel #ubuntu-effects02:06
Tukzhow can i do power management in kubuntu02:06
alex__don_jr__:02:06
don_jr__?02:07
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alex__how i install beryl iun my kubunty version02:07
melvinsudo apt-get beryl  ?02:08
Jucato!beryl | alex__02:08
ubotualex__: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:08
alex__yes????02:08
alex__melvin02:08
don_jr__I went to that website right there and configured it and installed02:08
alex__my cpu is a p402:08
alex__with 512mb RAM02:08
alex__and 64 Ram Video02:08
Tukzno one knows anything about power management?02:08
don_jr__I don't know if your system will run it or not alex__ I would tink it would, mine lag's a bit at 800 mgz p3, 300 and some ram and 128mhz vid02:09
geniialex__ This is not a channel for beryl. Jucato just pointed you where you may get some help.02:09
Jucatoalex__: again, #ubuntu-effects for beryl questions, specially how to install02:09
don_jr__I do need to figure out how to empty my trash bin as su??02:09
alex__thnks02:09
melvinnope alex ^^ listen to them02:10
melvinthey know, I'm doing guesswork02:10
stdindon_jr__: why do you need to do that?02:10
melvinwhat guesswork ?02:10
don_jr__stdin cause there's stuff in the trashbin when I try to empty it says 'permission denied'02:10
excitatory_is there a way to probe 'special' buttons on a keyboard and then map them to various commands?  i have a fairly generic keyboard with a 'sleep' 'wake up' and 'power' button.02:11
Tukz...02:11
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don_jr__excitatory_ I would think you could do something with those, but can't say how myself....02:12
stdindon_jr__: do "chown -R `whoami`: /(your home dir)/.local/share/Trash/02:12
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stdindon_jr__: then you should be able to empty normally02:12
don_jr__stdin can I do that from the 'run' line in the kmenu cause i"m cdoing a 'make' in console02:12
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stdindon_jr__: you can open a new tab if you want02:13
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stdindon_jr__: but you'll need sudo with that command02:13
Tukzpower management anyone?02:13
stdindon_jr__: so you need an interactive shell02:13
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stdindon_jr__: or pause make with "Ctrl-Z", then do "sudo chown -R `whoami`: /(your home dir)/.local/share/Trash/", then restart make with "fg"02:15
don_jr__stdin the 'whoami' as in what you've put there exactly? or use my name there?02:15
stdindon_jr__: the ` means to execute the command (ie not a ' but a `), you can put your username in there too, or $(whoami)02:16
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Tukz...02:17
don_jr__Okay, got it empty.02:17
don_jr__THanks alot02:18
flaccid0swtf happened to the dapper->edgy upgrade page?02:18
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moparisthebesthas anyone in here compiled thier own kernel from kernel.org?02:18
moparisthebestor 'vanilla sources' as they say02:18
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don_jr__I have never configured a kernel02:19
stdinflaccid0s: this one http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade ?02:19
moparisthebestthe problem I am having is with the nvidia drivers02:19
moparisthebestim running on the kernel I compiled, but the nvidia drivers wont work02:19
flaccid0sstdin: yep just found that. question is why is it so hard for people to get to from here?02:20
stdin!upgrade02:20
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:20
don_jr__I don't know how to help ya there accept to maybe give ya a site to help ya add the nvidia drivers again if needed02:20
stdinflaccid0s: ubotu had it02:20
flaccid0swe seem to point them to ubuntu upgrades or unstable ones02:20
flaccid0s[10:18]  <flaccid0s> upgrade02:21
flaccid0s[10:18]  <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:21
flaccid0swhy a dif response02:21
Jucatoflaccid0s: because the dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy was slightly different02:21
don_jr__flaccid0s there's a diff between an upgrade and a dist upgrade02:21
stdinflaccid0s: try "upgrade-#kubuntu"02:22
Jucatoand that UpgradeNotes page is actually oriented towards Ubuntu (update-manager)02:22
flaccid0si queried ubotu with upgrade02:22
flaccid0si got a dif response02:22
stdinflaccid0s: yeah02:22
don_jr__just 1 extra step or so I think02:22
flaccid0swhy02:22
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don_jr__well 2 extra steps if you want to dist-upgrade...iirc02:22
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Jucatoflaccid0s: yes, that's a #kubuntu channel factoid. it shows a different factoid if it's in the #kubuntu channel02:23
flaccid0sno. ubotu is giving a dif page02:23
Jucatoflaccid0s: yes we know02:23
stdinflaccid0s: because the upgrade is the generic (#ubuntu) version, adding a -#kubuntu tells ubotu to use the #kubuntu responce02:23
flaccid0sright02:23
flaccid0sso its not a good idea to query ubotu direct in the end02:23
flaccid0soh02:23
Jucatothat depends though02:23
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flaccid0si tried to not spam the channel thats all02:23
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Jucatomost of the factoids are non-#kubuntu specific02:23
Jucatoflaccid0s: another way would be to !factoid > nick02:24
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flaccid0syeah02:24
flaccid0simo the community has the resources but they are all over the place02:24
flaccid0sthere is no official manual/guide/handbook?02:24
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stdinwiki and help.ubuntu.com are official guides/manuals02:26
flaccid0sthere is lots of duplication and redundancy02:26
flaccid0sand yeah ubuntu and kubuntu are mixed due to ubotu etc.02:26
Jucatohm?02:26
makuseruis there anyway to use .ttf fonts?02:26
Jucatoubotu doesn't have much to do with it02:27
flaccid0swell it does when someone asks it for something and gets ubuntu specific instructions02:27
Jucatowe just feed it factoids/links from the wikis02:27
Jucatowell, it was only recently that we started making channel specific responses for ubotu02:27
solomon_after today's upgrades of linux-restricted-modules, it has become necessary for me to run NVIDIA's driver install script after every boot up.  What's changed, and how can I get it to use the module I compiled (1.0-9755) rather than the one it's using at boot-up?02:28
Jucatohelp.ubuntu.com is the documentation site. help.ubuntu.com/community is the community documentation/wiki. and wiki.ubuntu.com is the development/developer wiki (for specs, teams, discussions, etc)02:28
flaccid0sJucato: yes that stuffed me up to.02:28
flaccid0snow im having upgrade woes as expected02:29
Admiral_Chicagosolomon_: nvidia driver (which is nonfree blob btw) has to be loaded with every new kernel02:29
flaccid0shttp://pastebin.ca/43374502:29
solomon_Admiral_Chicago : yeah, but before I did it once, that's it.  Now it's every boot up.  That's the difference02:30
flaccid0sthe following may help:02:30
flaccid0s<nothing>02:30
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makuseruare there anyway to use .ttf fonts?02:31
Admiral_Chicagosolomon_: ah i see what you mean02:31
larrythecowhi guys! I am a gentoo user and my dad has a crappy laptop with a lot of problems02:31
sdlnxgk!system services02:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about system services - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:31
Admiral_Chicago!fonts02:31
larrythecowI am hoping they can be fixed by converting it to linux from windows02:31
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer02:31
sdlnxgk!processes02:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about processes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:31
flaccid0sJucato: what do you think02:31
Admiral_Chicagolarrythecow: see that link? you want to try that02:31
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Jucatosolomon_: on feisty?02:32
Jucatoflaccid0s: think about what?02:32
solomon_Jucato: yep02:32
sdlnxgkanyone know where I can go to get info about system processes running and how to delete  them???02:32
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larrythecowso I put in the kubuntu cd but one thing doesn't work so I want to ask you now because if I install and it doesn't work then he will be mad02:32
larrythecowsee the computer has a little button that turns on wifi02:32
flaccid0sJucato: my upgrade problem: http://pastebin.ca/43374502:32
sdlnxgkI uninstalled some programs but processes are still  running02:32
Jucatosolomon_: the 9755 driver is now on nvidia-glx-new02:32
larrythecowof course, I didn't expect them to work in linux.02:32
larrythecowbut since that button doesn't work..02:32
solomon_Jucato: thank u sir.  I'll try that02:32
larrythecowwhen I got to open up wifi manager, it says "wireless is switched off, switch it on?"02:33
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larrythecowI choose yes and nothing happens.02:33
larrythecowwhen I close and reopen.. it asks again.02:33
larrythecowso obviously it didn't switch it on02:33
larrythecowhow do I prevent this from happening?02:33
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larrythecowalso, his screen is capable of running at 1200x800 but it defaults as 1024x768, so it looks really bad.02:34
Jucatoflaccid0s: sorry no idea... maybe fdoving knows (if he's here)02:34
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larrythecowI tried xrandr to set it to 1200x80002:34
flaccid0sfdoving: are you alive br0?02:34
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larrythecowbut all that happens is everything is all mangled up.02:34
larrythecowand it looks like crap and is completely unusable.02:34
flaccid0si've never EVER had a smooth upgrade of ubuntu02:34
larrythecowwhat is wrong?02:34
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Jucatoflaccid0s: edgy to feisty will be smooth02:35
Jucatodapper to edgy was a (known) nightmare02:35
flaccid0sthats what they always say02:35
Jucatonow, that's what *I* say02:35
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Jucatothe new dist-upgrade tool makes it easy02:35
larrythecowyes, I don't think ubuntu should have a standard release cycle. that sounds so stupid having to upgrade all the time. They should just have major updates. :D gentoo does this well.02:35
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flaccid0syou cannot guarantee it or predict the future :)02:36
Jucatolarrythecow: you don't have to upgrade all the time.02:36
larrythecowoh..02:36
Jucatoeach release (other than LTS) is supported for 18 months02:36
larrythecowwell anyway, can you guys tell me what to do about my dads computer?02:36
larrythecowJucato: well upgrading every 18 months sucks too :P02:36
Jucatolarrythecow: less than upgrading every 6 months :P02:36
flaccid0slts is a load of shiz if you ask me02:36
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larrythecowwith gentoo I NEVER upgrade :D02:37
Jucato(you can always use Debian... which upgrades after 21 months)02:37
larrythecowyes but noone likes debian :P02:37
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larrythecownah, debian is okay, but I think kubuntu would be the best for my dad.02:37
larrythecowand I'm perfectly happy with my own distro02:37
larrythecowso no debian for me02:37
flaccid0sfreebsd is stable02:37
larrythecowI like freebsd too though :P02:38
flaccid0si like debian because its stabler than ubuntu02:38
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larrythecowhmm well anyway02:38
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flaccid0sbut how much time should i spend trying to fix this upgrade? 1 hour, 2 hours, 4days?02:38
larrythecowknow what to do about my dads computer problems?02:38
Jucatook getting kinda offtopic really02:38
flaccid0swhatever apt-get command to install or upgrade i issue, i get this error02:40
voidmagewhat error?02:41
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tahlvin_Anyone here?02:42
voidmage!ksysguard | sdlnxgk02:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksysguard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:42
voidmage!info ksysguard | sdlnxgk02:42
ubotusdlnxgk: ksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4 (edgy), package size 486 kB, installed size 1564 kB02:42
voidmage!anyone | tahlvin02:43
ubotutahlvin: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?02:43
flaccid0svoidmage: http://pastebin.ca/43374502:43
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voidmageflaccid0s: tried installing xorg?02:43
tahlvin_Nautilis died, as did a bunch of applets.02:44
tahlvin_brb02:44
larrythecowokay problem one: on windows my dad has a little button that you press to turn wifi on.02:44
larrythecowon linux I never expected the button to work..02:44
larrythecowbut I expected wifi to work.02:44
flaccid0svoidmage: yes02:44
larrythecowwhat happens is, I open up wifi manager02:44
larrythecowand it says "would you like to turn wifi on?"02:44
flaccid0scan't get same error for everything cept dif dep02:44
larrythecowI choose yes and wifi doesn't work.02:44
larrythecowI close and open up again the wifi manager and it says02:45
voidmagedoes apt-get -f install do anything?02:45
larrythecow"would you like to turn wifi on?"02:45
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larrythecowobviously that means it didn't turn wifi on02:45
larrythecowhow to I make it work?02:45
voidmagelarrythecow: tried the button?02:45
larrythecowpreferably automatically on boot02:45
voidmageit might be a wifi kill switch02:45
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larrythecowvoidmage: yeah, the button doesn't work02:45
voidmagewhat model laptop is it?02:45
flaccid0sim going to remove xorg02:45
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larrythecowwell in windows it actually bring up a little windows02:46
larrythecow*window02:46
flaccid0sit has many packages that must of been installed that should not of02:46
larrythecowwith a checkbox ticked saying "wifi"02:46
voidmageagain, what model laptop?02:46
larrythecowwhen if you press the button again, the checkbox unticks02:46
larrythecowit is a Medion laptop02:46
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flaccid0sso remove xorg-* pretty much removes kde. lets see if i can install kubuntu-desktop now02:47
voidmagelarrythecow: this might be a known issue02:47
larrythecowbug page?02:47
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voidmagehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/3113602:47
voidmagehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/3209902:47
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larrythecowflaccid0s : what are you talking about? removing xorg doesn't remove kde!02:48
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voidmagethe bug page is kind of old though02:48
voidmagefrom dapper02:48
flaccid0si know larrythecow, but it is this time: sudo apt-get remove xorg-*02:48
flaccid0s231 packages to remove with that command02:48
CantthinkofnameHello there.  So, I just upgraded my kubuntu from dapper to edgy... but now my mouse doesn't work.  It is a wireless MS IntelliMouse Explorer 2.0, connected through a USB.  Can anyone assist me?02:50
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tahlvin_Err, sike.02:50
tahlvin_It started working again, just had to restart.02:50
tahlvin_But when it died it said something about a problem with Bonobo, what's that?02:50
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flaccid0snope this didn't work at all02:52
tahlvin_And if I delete nautilus, what can I do?02:52
voidmagelarrythecow: running edgy or feisty?02:52
voidmagealso, have a more specific model number?02:53
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flaccid0stahlvin_: use konqueror02:53
tahlvin_falccid0s: Thanks, but isn't that oneof the games bundled with the compy?02:53
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tahlvin_falccid0s: Nevermind, that's konquest.02:54
flaccid0skonquest?02:54
voidmagesome game02:54
flaccid0s!konqueror02:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:55
voidmage!info konqueror02:55
ubotukonqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4 (edgy), package size 1954 kB, installed size 5280 kB02:55
voidmage!info konquest02:55
ubotukonquest: KDE based GNU-Lactic Konquest game. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 325 kB, installed size 676 kB02:55
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flaccid0strue02:55
flaccid0sso like i've decided to waste my bandwidth and upgrade to feisty to fix this02:55
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flaccid0si guess my chances are 100000 to 102:55
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wolferinewhat is a great PHP editor?02:55
voidmagehmm02:55
wolferineanyone?02:56
voidmagei wouldn't try upgrading to feisty without making sure you have ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop02:56
voidmagewolferine: vim?02:56
flaccid0swolferine: kate or kdevelop02:56
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flaccid0svoidmage: i can't install them.02:56
wolferinei was thinking more like an IDE02:56
voidmage!info kdevelop02:56
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB02:56
voidmageit won't let you manually install xorg?02:56
flaccid0s!info eclipse02:57
ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB02:57
voidmagemake sure xserver-xorg is fully installed too02:57
flaccid0svoidmage: it won't manually let me install anything02:57
voidmagewhat's the error when you try to manually install something?02:57
flaccid0ssame as i pasted before02:57
voidmagestill that said package depends on xorg?02:57
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flaccid0srequested an impossible situation. damn straight02:58
flaccid0sif you try to install other packages the deps are dif02:58
voidmagehmm02:58
voidmagecan i see your sources.list?02:58
flaccid0seven after removing xorg-* and other main packages02:58
flaccid0si re-generated a fresh one02:58
voidmageran an apt-get update?02:58
flaccid0sbit late now as its doing feisty02:58
flaccid0syes many times02:58
voidmagehmm02:59
voidmagewell after you get to feisty02:59
voidmagebefore you reboot or anything02:59
voidmagestrongly recommend trying to get ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop working02:59
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voidmagedist-upgrade a few more times after that02:59
flaccid0syeah02:59
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flaccid0sthats the plan02:59
flaccid0si doubt i'm going to get that far02:59
voidmagemake sure dist-upgrades don't need anything else, THEN reoob02:59
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flaccid0si just wasted 1GB download and 6 hours of time...02:59
flaccid0sbut thats just how ubuntu is02:59
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flaccid0sat least kde hasn't fully crashed yet its still alive03:00
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OrTigaShow to share printer in LIVE CD?03:16
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flaccid0sOrTigaS: set it up in kcontrol -> peripherals -> printers03:18
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OrTigaSok... let me try that03:18
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OrTigaSi'm using 5.10 :)...03:22
OrTigaSwhere i can find kcontrol in 5.1003:22
larrythecowvoidmage: I'm running 6.1003:22
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flaccid0sOrTigaS: not sure. run command -> kcontrol03:25
OrTigaSok03:25
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larrythecowvoidmage: with an MD 9650003:27
voidmagehmm03:27
voidmagecan't really figure much out03:27
OrTigaSnow i see the printer but i cant see there how to share :(03:27
voidmageeverything on google is in french03:27
OrTigaSserver: localhost: 63103:28
flaccid0sOrTigaS: is the printer already added? you usually need to add a printer03:28
OrTigaSflaccid0s: yup03:28
OrTigaSi assign name & location03:28
OrTigaSi assigned name & location03:29
flaccid0s!printing03:29
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows03:29
meo_is sabayon debian or red hat based?03:29
OrTigaSaw03:29
OrTigaSdeb03:29
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flaccid0sOrTigaS: add the printer on the client machine via smb or ipp03:30
larrythecowvoidmage: hang on i think I know03:30
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OrTigaStheres is some long edit, mayber i just gonna change it to 6.06 live cd to make it fast :)03:32
OrTigaSthanks guys03:32
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razarI accidently closed my update notifier icon in kubuntu. Where can I open it up from again?03:38
flaccid0srun adept_notifier03:39
razarthanks03:40
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matias_D03:43
matias_eg03:43
matias_sombele humboc esernas03:43
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matias_Nom eso jugus03:44
matias_Quipe! Ansertius proct files!!!!!03:44
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jordo23how do you start the adept-notifier again?03:49
jordo23!adept03:49
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto03:49
jordo23!adept-notifier03:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-notifier - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:49
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N0Lif3I can't get kaffeine to work anymore. I only installed Kubuntu yesterday and had it working fine, but now when I try to start it up the Kaffeine icon on my cursor bounces a few times then nothing.03:51
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jtmoney~$ aplay -l03:51
jtmoney**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****03:51
jtmoneycard 0: SB [HDA ATI SB] , device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem] 03:51
jtmoney  Subdevices: 1/103:51
jtmoney  Subdevice #0: subdevice #003:51
jtmoneydamn it, anyone know why only my modem is showing up?03:51
jtmoneyi can't get any sound out of this POS laptop03:51
Pollywogpoint of sale?03:52
PollywogGoogle the chipset at Google Linux03:52
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jtmoneypiece of crap03:52
jtmoneyi've been doing that for 2 days03:52
Pollywogoic03:52
jtmoneynow it's just not even showing up for aplay -l03:52
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Pollywogdoes your chipset appear to be supported in Linux?03:53
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flaccid0sjordo23: run adept_notifier ?03:53
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jordo23flaccid0s: Yeah03:54
jordo23just run it......command by itself doesn't work03:54
N0Lif3Which terminal emulator do you guys use? I'm trying to stay minimal on laptop, since i only have about 224MB of ram. I hear the xterm and aterm are pretty light, but are they about the same as Konsole? I'd imagine that Konsole isn't too hard on the machine since it is relative to KDE03:54
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flaccid0sjordo23: what do yo mean03:54
jtmoneyPollywog: yeah, it's the intel_hda03:55
jtmoneyrealtek high definition03:55
jtmoneyeveryone is having problems with it03:55
jtmoneyand i'm trying all the suggestions03:55
jordo23flaccid0s: I just want to start the adept-notifier....typing "adept-notifier" doesn't seem to work on command line...03:55
flaccid0sadept_notifier03:56
flaccid0sunderscore03:56
Pollywogjtmoney: if all else fails, you might try Freespire but first look up the compatibility info on their freespire.org site03:56
jordo23oh...03:56
jtmoneyis freespire debian-based?03:56
Pollywogyes03:56
jordo23flaccid0s: Duh....thanks! :)03:56
jtmoneyokay, good03:56
jtmoneythank you03:56
Pollywogubuntu in next version03:56
flaccid0snp03:56
Pollywogthe next Freespire will be based on Ubuntu03:57
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geniiBleh CNR04:06
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pollyoHello04:14
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flaccid0swill be funny if i pull it off though04:17
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chr1831how come when i use audacity it cant find my sound device?04:20
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flaccid0swhat is the latest kernel version in feisty?04:21
chr1831.20-1204:22
cheeseboyhey anyone got a nice black theme , a nice looking system monitor , or weather monitor?04:22
flaccid0si'm getting Setting up linux-386 (2.6.20.14.12) ...04:22
flaccid0scheeseboy: the kweather applet for kicker04:23
cheeseboykicker??04:23
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flaccid0sthe main panel04:24
unix_infidelthe little bar at the bottom in kde.04:24
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luckyonecan anyone help me with my smbfs problem... it just broke and I am trying to figure out how to fix it... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2433602#post243360204:25
flaccid0shmm getting close04:25
flaccid0sluckyone: same situation as that post?04:27
flaccid0sie. exact same mountpoint etc04:27
flaccid0s!info mdadm04:27
ubotumdadm: tool to administer Linux MD device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.1-6ubuntu5.2 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 456 kB04:27
flaccid0sright i guess i don't need mdadm if i don't use raid ?04:27
luckyoneflaccid0s: sorry, I am jdmpike in that post04:28
flaccid0sok04:28
luckyoneflaccid0s: any ideas you could think of where to look?04:28
flaccid0swhat is output of mount04:28
flaccid0si mean mount | grep garage04:28
luckyoneflaccid0s: mount | grep garage does nothing04:29
flaccid0swhat about file /media/garage104:29
luckyonegive it a minute, it hangs...04:30
luckyoneflaccid0s: I get pretty scared when sudo can't rm something...04:30
luckyoneflaccid0s: /media/garage1: ERROR: cannot open `/media/garage1' (Input/output error)04:30
flaccid0slooks like a physical error04:31
flaccid0s!fsck04:31
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot04:31
flaccid0si would recommend fsck first04:31
flaccid0sthen try again04:31
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N0Lif3How do I add Debian testing/unstable repositories to my /etc/apt/sources.list? They aren't there by default and I can't find the address to them online04:33
luckyoneflaccid0s: thanks man, I will gvie that a try... be back in a bit04:33
flaccid0snp04:34
flaccid0sN0Lif3: not sure why you need them, but you could ask where to get them in #debian04:34
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N0Lif3flaccid0s: On rtorrent's webpage, they say I need Debian's testing/unstable to get it through apt-get04:35
flaccid0swhich package?04:35
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flaccid0s!find rtorrent04:35
ubotuFound: rtorrent04:35
flaccid0s!info rtorrent04:35
uboturtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.3-1 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 636 kB04:35
flaccid0sits in universe for uubntu04:35
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N0Lif3flaccid0s: really?04:36
flaccid0si hope so04:36
flaccid0subuntu uses debian upstream. most debian packages are in ubuntu repos as ubuntu version04:36
N0Lif3flaccid0s: it says "Couldn't find package rtorrent"04:36
flaccid0shave you enabled universe04:36
N0Lif3flaccid0s: no04:36
flaccid0sthats why04:37
N0Lif3flaccid0s: ok, I just opened my sources.list in kate. what do I do?04:37
flaccid0s!repos04:37
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:37
flaccid0s!source-o-matic04:37
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:37
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luckyoneflaccid0s: still doesn't seem to be working04:39
flaccid0sdid you run fdisk on it and fix any errors?04:40
luckyoneflaccid0s: I did the sudo shutdown -F -f now04:40
flaccid0sand04:41
luckyoneflaccid0s: I didn't see it do anything...04:41
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flaccid0smaybe the part needs to be flagged in fstab04:41
flaccid0sie. the last column on / set to 104:42
N0Lif3flaccid0s: that source-o-matic you linked me to, Should I unclick the top options speaking of "Default repositories." It says Ubuntu. I want to stay strictly Kubuntu.04:42
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: the ubuntu and kubuntu repos are the same04:42
compilerwriterAny kernal coders on at the moment?04:42
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flaccid0sN0Lif3: add universe to your existing sources.list only. kubuntu and ubuntu use the same repos04:44
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compilerwriterHey Jucato how goes it?04:44
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compilerwriterJucato have you ever worked with kernal code?04:45
flaccid0sbrb getting sandwich04:45
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Jucatoit goes fine :)04:46
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Jucatonever04:46
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luckyoneflaccid0s: I still don't think it ran04:46
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compilerwriterI am reading this article that would leave one to believe there was some very sick humor involved in the naming of variables and comments.04:47
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N0Lif3flaccid0s: taking a look at my sources.list. It seems I already have unsupported software as "universe"04:48
N0Lif3flaccid0s: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5324/snapshot2sz8.png04:48
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don_jr__How do I remove a program that I compiled and installed?04:49
NightBirdmake uninstall04:49
NightBirdnormally04:49
NightBirdwell.. sudo make uninstall04:49
don_jr__k, thanks04:49
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: uncomment the lins that have universe in them04:49
N0Lif3sonoftheclayr: uncomment? what do you mean?04:50
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: remove the # at the start of the line04:50
N0Lif3all of them with "universe" at the end?04:50
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: yes04:51
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don_jr__how do I delete a directory?04:51
don_jr__I did rm and it told me it couldn't remove cause it's a directory04:52
hitmanWillydon_jr__, rm -r04:52
luckyonedon_jr__: rm -r removes dirs04:52
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hitmanWillydon_jr__, means "remove recursive"04:53
don_jr__hitmanWilly thanks04:53
HaSH!sio04:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:54
HaSH!iso04:54
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.04:54
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chalmeris "home folder" like "my documents" ?04:55
N0Lif3sonoftheclayr: thanks! removing those comments (#) really helped a lot. I'm installing rtorrent as I'm typing this04:55
sonoftheclayrchalmer: no04:55
sonoftheclayrN0Lif3: np04:56
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chalmerwhere would i put misc. stuff like pic.s  music & stuff?04:56
sonoftheclayrchalmer: in you home folder..if you want create a new folder called documents or music or pics like i do04:57
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chalmero" ok04:57
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luckyoneman alive, this is upsetting me04:58
chalmerwhat do i run to check my devices for missing drivers. like "device manager ?04:58
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flaccid0sN0Lif3: thats why its a good idea to read the ubotu pastes :)05:01
sonoftheclayrchalmer: nothing, there isn't anything that i know of. sorry, what do you need the drivers for?05:01
chalmerwhat player do i need? to play from my music server. wma.05:02
marianoI have panel kwin panel set up for transparency, but this sets a border for the panel font and makes it very difficult to read, is there a way to disable this outline for fonts in panel?05:02
flaccid0s!codecs > chalmer05:02
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chalmerflaccid0s> yea i tried that site too but nothing05:03
flaccid0snothing?05:04
chalmerflaccid0s> yea05:04
flaccid0sare you sure you actually read05:04
chalmerflaccid0s> i was there reading for 2 hrs on trying to find a player that will play wma05:05
Black_Catwma support is not in repository now afaik05:05
flaccid0sbecause it tells you what you need05:05
flaccid0schalmer: kaboodle, xine, vlc05:05
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flaccid0samarok,kmplayer05:05
flaccid0si think they can all do it if they have the codec05:05
flaccid0sAfter following these steps you'll be able to play most common multimedia formats, including MP3, DVD, Flash, Quicktime, WMA and WMV, including both standlone files and content embedded in web pages.05:06
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N0Lif3flaccid0s: I feel reluctant to install vlc. It has lots of its own libs. For somebody like me who wants to stay relatively minimal. VLC is a turnoff.05:06
flaccid0sthat is far from nothing...05:06
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flaccid0sN0Lif3: i don't use it either05:06
jarnIs there a program that will let me easily manage replaygain tags?05:06
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Black_Cat!codecs05:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:06
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Jaxsterhi. Can anyone help me figure out how to get the latest drivers for my video card?05:07
flaccid0sJaxster: ati or nvidia?05:07
Jaxsternvidia05:07
flaccid0s!nvidia > Jaxster05:07
JaxsterI had it all set up but I tried to make a dual display and it locked me out of the gui05:07
flaccid0sok05:08
flaccid0ssorry i can't help with dual display05:08
Jaxsterso I reinstalled and now i'm stuck at 400x60005:08
Jaxsterthats fine05:08
JaxsterI just want single display with normal resolution05:08
flaccid0s!xorg-reconfigure05:08
flaccid0srun xserver-xorg reconfigure05:09
flaccid0sthats the quickest method05:09
Jaxsterin terminal?05:09
flaccid0sor goto kcontrol -> display and do it there05:09
flaccid0sJaxster: yep under sudo05:09
flaccid0s!upgrade05:09
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:09
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don_jr__Anyone tell me what is HAL and where can I get an install of the header files?05:10
jarnIsn't the command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'?05:10
jordanflaccid0s: ok, so I commented out my mount point in /etc/fstab. That took care of the issues with /media/garage105:10
don_jr__jarn I believe so05:10
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flaccid0ssorry my bad, jarn is right05:10
jarnHrm, I probably should have prefaced that with flaccid0s.05:10
don_jr__Are there any alternatives to wine or is that it for a windows emulator?05:10
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Black_Cat!vmware05:11
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers05:11
flaccid0sjordan: so you dont want to mount the partition anymore?05:11
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jarnflaccid0s: I had to do it often enough as a noob that I should remember. xD05:11
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jordanflaccid0s: I just mounted it... it just doesn't mount automatically in /etc/fstab anymore...05:12
jordanI don't get it...05:12
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flaccid0sjarn: its a long command thats hard to remember hehe05:12
flaccid0sjordan: still sounds fishy05:12
jordanflaccid0s: I took it out of /etc/fstab, then mounted in the terminal after reboot... everything is fine...05:12
flaccid0sbut you can work out why it couldnt exist in fstab. probably incorrect entry05:13
flaccid0syes but what did you use to mount it05:13
jordanflaccid0s: it used to work...05:13
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flaccid0syes05:13
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flaccid0sused to being the keywords05:13
jordanflaccid0s: just broke after last apt-get update && apt-get upgrade05:13
flaccid0snothing lasts forever, an in IT its a quicker cycle05:13
jordanflaccid0s: anything look wrong with this? #//luckyseven/garage1 /media/garage1 smbfs credentials=/etc/samba/user,rw,uid=jordan 0 005:14
don_jr__so in theory VMware can set up windows on my computer....will it take up the same ammount of space as a normal xp install?05:14
flaccid0sjordan: oh its smb05:15
jordandon_jr__: yes, it will need ~3GB allocated to the install minimum05:15
flaccid0sit looks ok i guess but you can always troubleshoot if you know how05:15
flaccid0si'm going to try to reboot05:15
jordanflaccid0s: I don't really - I am like n00b+105:15
flaccid0sbbs05:15
flaccid0sthen start learning jordan :)05:15
don_jr__so I could basically just dual boot and get the same result, accept for being able to go back and forth between os' without a restart?05:16
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don_jr__I should really write this down, what's the command to extract a tarball from terminal?05:18
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sonoftheclayrdon_jr__: tar -xzvf file.tar.gz05:20
don_jr__sonoftheclayr thanks, you've been a life saver these past couple of days! =)05:21
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sonoftheclayrdon_jr__: np05:21
TheDebuggerYou don't need the -05:21
TheDebuggerjust: tar xvzf file.tar.gz05:21
N0Lif3Is Noatun any good? I can't get Kaffein to work anymore (uninstall and reinstall a bunch of times and it just won't start up anymore). So, i'm looking for another k-based video player05:23
dthackerOT: anybody know the name of the curses utiltiy to config net stuff on the server edition?05:23
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don_jr__Does anyone know whre I can get the HAL header files?05:24
JucatoN0Lif3: try kmplayer05:24
N0Lif3Jucato: ok05:24
don_jr__I can't find it in the apt-cach search hal05:24
Jaxstercan anyone walk me though configuring new display settings? Very new. I had it before. But I need new display drivers do I need the nvidia-glx or the glx-dev??05:24
sonoftheclayrdon_jr__: apt-get install libhal-dev05:24
TheDebugger*-dev is for development...05:24
Jaxsterso no dev05:24
Jaxster10-405:24
TheDebuggerJaxster: So, you need nvidia-glx05:25
Jucato!libhal-dev | don_jr__05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libhal-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
Jucatobah :)05:25
don_jr__sonoftheclayr there you go again savin my rear....05:25
sonoftheclayrdon_jr__: ubuntu package search plugin for firefox05:25
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Jucato!info libhal-dev05:26
dthackerno joy, eh?  Time to GTFI.  Bye folks05:26
ubotulibhal-dev: Hardware Abstraction Layer - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7.1-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 272 kB05:26
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don_jr__great, where can I get it? hehe05:26
SubOnecan anyone link me to information on how to make "Window Decorations" and "Styles"? KDE Themes basically05:26
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sonoftheclayrdon_jr__: mycroft.mozdev.org05:26
JucatoSubOne: you will basically need to know C++/Qt programming05:28
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SubOneok, and?05:28
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Jucatothis is an old window decoration tutorial: http://www.usermode.org/docs/kwintheme.html05:29
Jucatocan't find anything about styles05:29
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SubOneJucato: ty i'll read this05:31
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TheDebuggerOh yeah05:32
don_jr__kubuntu have an rss reader?05:33
hitmanWillywell, im now installing gentoo on my other hd05:33
sonoftheclayrdon_jr__: akregator05:33
Dasnipa`don_jr__, akregator is a KDE based rss reader that is in the (k)ubuntu repos05:33
don_jr__thanks05:33
Peakerdon_jr__:05:33
Peaker$ apt-cache search rss reader05:33
Peakerakregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE05:33
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nathamhi, i need a software to sync data on 2 locations (a laptop user), somebody knows a easy one?05:36
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zak_when i go to install openoffice.org-base, it wants to upgrade the rest of openoffice... normally i would, but i'm on dialup and it will take a long time... is there a way to get around this?05:42
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zak_or is there anything else roughly equivalent to microsoft access [ie, can save in it's format] ?05:43
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N0Lif3I can05:44
unix_infidelzak_: uhh, access?05:44
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unix_infidelaccess is a database app, most of the program is just a table.  creating links in a table is a simple task.05:44
zak_unix_infidel: i've never actually used it :s but i need to soon05:45
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root_#ceara05:47
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flaccid!upgrade05:53
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:53
flaccidi am really close05:53
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flaccid!X06:01
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:01
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flaccidrightio06:05
flaccidheh06:05
flaccidi made my upgrade successful06:05
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RaNDyMyZeedgy to feisty flaccid?06:07
flacciddapper to feisty pretty much in the end06:08
flaccidbrb06:08
unix_infidelmade upgrade successful/06:09
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Aloneawhen is the release date for fiesty again?06:10
hitmanWillyAlda, a couple of days from now, afaik06:10
sonoftheclayrAlonea: april 1906:10
hitmanWillydamn tab completion :)06:10
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flaccidok im back yay06:11
Aloneaok, I was looking for the date on the website and could not find it06:11
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flaccidhows that i jumped to major releases to a dev version06:14
flaccidum two majore releases to feisty06:14
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Nick^69hi06:15
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kaican some remeind as to how to mount my ipd, I have the commands but I nca't access thru amarok anymore06:25
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flaccidhey guys. recommended font packs06:29
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flaccidi'm on feisty and it feels stable after my hectic upgrade06:29
flaccidand i must say feisty is heaps faster than dapper06:30
flaccidmaybe its xorg7 i dunno06:30
kai...is there any one that can help me mount my ipod06:31
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emetyes fiesty is nice06:32
emetthey seemed to improve the font rendering too06:32
kalorin_fonts are huge06:32
kalorin_like in general06:32
emetyeah I like it06:33
emetI use blubuntu theme06:33
kalorin_no I mean that's one of the biggest things that needs improvement06:33
emetapt-get blubuntu I think06:33
kalorin_fonts in general06:33
N0Lif3I'm trying to play videos in Kmplayer (using xine as the player) and all I need is black.06:33
emetheh06:33
kalorin_and video card support for multihead desktops06:33
N0Lif3all I get is black06:33
N0Lif3^06:33
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emetkalorin_: ATI?06:33
kalorin_the ATI drivers are a pain in the ass06:33
emetyeah well06:34
emetATI/AMD sucks06:34
emetsorry06:34
flaccidwell the fonts on my dont look 100%, but i havnt set nvidia prop. driver yet06:34
kalorin_well, I'm not sure that if you want to play games you're going to have a much better time with nvidia06:34
emetno Beryl for you either06:34
emetwithout buggy and unsupported XGL06:34
kalorin_I don't know and wouldn't until I get a different card to try06:34
kalorin_yeah no idea06:34
kalorin_what I'm noticing right now is that I can't get my monitors to do DPMS06:34
sonoftheclayrhow do i change the nvidia kernel module or X module?06:34
kalorin_and go into power savings mode06:34
emetI wish there would be some way to convince AMD to make better drivers06:35
emetbut they had like nearly a year to improve ATI's driver06:35
kalorin_their new ones are a lot easier to install06:35
kalorin_8.35.506:35
kalorin_that's what I'm running now iwth an x70006:35
kalorin_only real catch after messing around with it for a long time is that the xorg drivers woudln't work on install06:35
emetit still doesn't support Composite06:36
emetNvidia and Intel support Compsite06:36
kalorin_and the ati drivers when X starts it starts wtih my screens in clone mode and then I have to tell it to use them as a big desktop06:36
kalorin_other than that it's ok06:36
kalorin_what's composite do for you?06:36
emetberyl/compiz06:36
kalorin_this ATI is the only card I've tried to really run x under06:36
kalorin_sorry pretty doesn't matter that much to me06:36
kalorin_I can totally live without fog effects on my windows06:36
AloneaHas anyone ever gotten Oblivion to work on Linux with wine or something?06:37
emetit's very impressive when you see it in person06:37
emetberyl06:37
kalorin_I'm sure it's pretty cool06:37
kalorin_I'm not sure it's more than eye candy06:37
emetoh it is much more then eye candy06:37
kalorin_kind fo like games, there are so many amazing looking games out there that are so pretty but have terrible game play06:37
Peakerkalorin_: Its zoom feature, negative, and several others are produtivity features06:37
kalorin_I still enjoy the old Unreal Tournament06:38
kalorin_that kind of thing06:38
PeakerI was very unimperssed when I saw it in youtube and screenshots - but very impressed when running it here :)06:38
emetPeaker: yeah I am rather fond of the scale plugin06:38
kalorin_yeah I've obviously never tried it, so I can't really comment beyond what I've seen as stuff on their webpage06:38
kalorin_right now I just want DPMS06:38
Nick^69how do I add or Install -x-libraries options on Ubuntu 7.04 plz ?06:38
Peakerkalorin_: annotate is good for lectuers and stuff06:38
Peakerkalorin_: (You can draw/erase on the screen)06:38
emetyou can run it with XGL on ATI06:38
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emetbut expect a buggy experience06:39
emetthe real way to run it is natively on X.org via the AIGLX extentions06:39
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emetwhich ATI does not support06:39
kalorin_right06:40
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kalorin_well I'm thinking about getting a 7600GT with dual DVI so I'll be ready when I can get some flat panels06:41
emetheh06:41
kalorin_its' hard to justify the cash at this point though just cause of our house situation06:41
emetmy dream machine as of now06:41
kalorin_we've got one we're living in and one we're trying to sell06:41
emetdual monitors06:41
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emetdual core chip with hardware virtualization06:41
emetgood specs in general, and Ubuntu as the only partition06:42
emetwith Windows virtualized06:42
emet:[06:42
emetI need money of course for this06:42
emetlol06:42
kalorin_heh06:42
Peakeremet: Did you notice in beryl, what happens when you maximize and try to resize a window?06:43
emetPeaker: the fluid effect?06:43
kalorin_I've got a Athlon 64 3200+ w/ 1gb of ram and an ATI x700 video card06:43
emetI love that effect06:43
emetI wish I could run beryl on this damn computer06:43
kalorin_I want to get a E6600 w/ 2gb of ram and an nvidia card06:43
Peakeremet: Not sure if that's the name - it doesn't allow resize when its maximized, so it just bounces back -- its pretty funny :)06:43
AbortDjiggle effect or something06:43
emetyeah that's one of my favorite06:43
emetI keep trying to do it on metacity06:43
kalorin_at some point in the future06:43
emetdamn windows are too rigid06:44
AloneaI am finally going to try beryl since people keep on talking about it. Want to see what the fuss is all about06:44
AbortDits ok06:44
PeakerAlonea: ya its pretty amazing ;)06:44
AbortDi just like it for the cube Alonea06:44
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sonoftheclayrcan anybody help me? i need to know how to chnage the nvida kernel module or x module06:44
PeakerIts stuff like that that will probably get people trying Linux out - not productivity suites, better editors, etc :)06:44
AloneaWill see it here in a few minutes. Almost done installing06:44
AbortDwish there was a way to make all the taskbars seperate06:44
kalorin_DPMS (Energy Star):06:45
kalorin_  Standby: 31424    Suspend: 31424    Off: 3142406:45
kalorin_  DPMS is Enabled06:45
kalorin_  Monitor is On06:45
emetAlonea: don't try it with an ATI card lol06:45
kalorin_what's that mean to you?06:45
emetI got it to run but it breaks randomly06:45
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kalorin_where'd it get 31424 from?06:45
AbortDwhat does it do emet?06:45
emetlots of stuff06:45
emetthe fonts are broken under XGL06:45
emetreally ugly06:45
emetthe GTK+ theme is the default06:46
AbortDu sure you got the right graphics driver?06:46
emetthere are no icons06:46
emetyup06:46
emetfglrx06:46
emetno other driver works with my laptop06:46
emetwith opengl06:46
AbortDi wish i had a laptop06:46
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emetheh06:46
emetjust make sure it has nvidia mkay06:47
AbortDyeah i dont like ati06:47
emetI had nothing against them until I started using linux06:47
AbortDi use a geforce fx 5500 256mb ram06:47
emetcool06:47
jordo23Is there a way to change your systems name (net bios name, i think)?06:47
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Aloneahmmm...whats the X Composite extension?06:48
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emetberyl needs it to work06:49
emetati driver doesn't have it06:49
emetbest you can do is use XGL, which emulates it06:49
AbortDor shoot your pc06:50
Yorokobijordo23, by system name do you mean the host name? (type 'hostname' in konsole) ?06:50
jordo23Yorokobi: Yeah....is that changed in /etc/hostname06:51
jordo23right?06:51
Yorokobijordo23, use 'sudo hostname newname' then change it in /etc/hostname, otherwise, you'll have problems next time you reboot.06:52
jordo23Yorokobi: Does that ultimately overwrite that file?06:53
jordo23Yorokobi: I already changed it before you told me....06:53
Yorokobijordo23, if it does, its not immediate06:53
jordo23If I run the command again will it overwrite what I have done?06:53
Yorokobijordo23, if you only change /etc/hostname you'll run into problems; you have to run 'sudo hostname newname'06:54
kalorin_ok going to try these dpms settings and see if it fixes things06:54
jordo23Yorokobi: What I am saying is that I already changed /etc/hostname. If I run the command it should overwrite the changes I did and I will be alright....correct?06:55
Yorokobijordo23, maybe; you'll want to check it afterwards to ensure the command and the file have the same host name.06:55
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jordo23brb....I hope....06:56
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N0Lif3I need help. I can't get videos to play in Kubuntu. Nothing I do works.07:02
RaNDyMyZeN0Lif3: what kind of videos?07:03
N0Lif3any kind, but to be speciific xvid video atm.07:04
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jtmoneyN0Lif3: you might want to use easyubuntu to get all the correct codecs07:04
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N0Lif3easyubuntu?07:04
RaNDyMyZe!libxine-extracodecs07:04
Yorokobi!codecs07:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:05
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RaNDyMyZei guess he doesn't know that one, thanks Yorokobi07:05
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N0Lif3!easyubuntu07:05
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu07:05
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AbortDwhat do you need to run a email server?07:09
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Ademanok i have a sort of emergency, i need to restart the KDE window manager without losing ANY of the session data, the mouse seems to work, but keyboard input does not07:10
Ademani've tried starting 'kompmgr' and 'kwin' from a tty but no luck, they say they can't connect to an x server07:10
YorokobiAdeman, run 'kwin' or 'kwin --replace'07:10
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Ademani think kwin from a terminal in my graphical shell would work, but i have no keyboard input there07:11
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YorokobiAdeman, how about 'kwin --replace --display :0' ??07:12
SubOneI'm trying to make a window decoration for kde using decgen, but when I compile my dec I get "error: kdecoration.h: No such file or directory"... What should I install to get this header file? kde-devel?07:13
AdemanYorokobi: i'll try that thanks07:13
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YorokobiAbortD, IMHO, the first thing you need to run a mail server is an understanding of SMTP security so you don't create an open relay. Postfix is my MTA of choice but qmail is a good and secure one as well.07:14
AbortDhm07:15
AbortDPostfix?07:15
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B4Ci need help07:15
parkermauneyHello07:15
parkermauneywith what?07:15
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kalorincan someone look at their /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and tell me where the DPMS options are specified07:16
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kalorinlike in the monitor or serverlayout or device areas?07:16
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B4Ci cant dial through kpp07:16
AdemanYorokobi: --device isn't a valid option apparently :-)07:16
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Yorokobikalorin, IIRC its in the Display area; it can be omitted, too.07:17
AdemanYorokobi: any hope for using kompmgr or something? (also, i can't view the entire help output for kompmgr, and less won't behave right either)07:17
YorokobiAdeman, 1s07:17
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Ademanno problem07:17
parkermauneytest drive americas most reliable network07:17
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B4Cto me?07:18
parkermauneyyes07:18
YorokobiAdeman, 'kompmgr -d :0' ... the -d is for display, none of the other options appear to be very relevant.07:19
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parkermauneyirc koonchy hell damn07:19
AdemanYorokobi: i'll try it thanks07:19
parkermauneyno prob07:19
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YorokobiAdeman, good luck. I'm outta here, its time for sleep :)07:20
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Ademanrats07:21
Ademandidn't work...07:21
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Ademanit started, complained about a lack of configuration file, and didn't return07:21
Ademanand it sure didn't seem to be doing it's job as a window manager07:22
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B4Ci m in india, parkermauney07:22
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pranav_hi07:33
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calamarihi07:36
AngryElfI've got libmad0 and libmad0-dev installed but k3b still says I need libmad installed to burn mp3s....what else do I need?07:37
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pranav_AngryElf: He how are u installing it are you using apt-get??07:37
AngryElfyes07:38
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AngryElfsynaptic, but whatever07:38
pranav_are you bothered really about the depedencies??07:38
AngryElfwhen it prevents me from doing what I want to do, yes07:39
JucatoAngryElf: if you're trying to burn mp3's as audio cd's, you need libk3b2-mp307:39
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Jucatobut if you just want to burn mp3's as mp3's (Data CD), you don't need it07:39
AngryElfthe pop-up when you start k3b shoudl say that, and not libmad07:40
sonoftheclayrthe nvidia drivers work with the generic kernel don't they07:40
AngryElfJucato,  ty, works now07:40
calamariI'm following a guide that assumes gdm, but I'm using kdm.  It uses a [servers]  section, then a section for each server.. so that all are started up.  Can I somehow translate this for kdm?07:40
sl8does anyone have any good software reccomendations for centralized system maintenance?07:41
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aneeshi...is there any audio ripper in kubuntu07:42
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carutsuanees try K3B 1.0 is really cool07:42
carutsu!k3b | anees07:42
ubotuanees: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto07:42
ahlalo_elyonHow do I completely format a drive in Ubuntu?  I have an MP3 player that ubuntu corrupted (because of a crash) and I can't use it now.  I'm pretty sure a reformat would help... anyone?07:42
aneesok thanx07:42
Jucato!cdripping | anees07:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdripping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:43
Jucatobah07:43
Jucato!rip07:43
ubotuTo rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh07:43
Jucatoanees: ^^^07:43
carutsuJucato xD07:43
Kite_DHmy firefox crashed and now it doesnt start anymore07:43
Kite_DHhow can i be helped07:43
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aneesok .. thanx07:43
carutsuKite_DH try reinstaling it07:43
Kite_DHi did07:43
Kite_DHit still doesnt start07:43
carutsuKite_DH07:43
ahlalo_elyonKite_DH: Try running System Guard and kill any "firefox" processes.07:43
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: bad extension maybe07:44
Kite_DHthere are no processes07:44
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: firefox-bin?07:44
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Kite_DHif i start firefox07:44
carutsuKite_DH try running it from command line07:44
carutsuI once had the link broken07:44
dawn!initramfs07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
Kite_DHfor a second that "new session" thing blinks up07:44
Kite_DHthen it breaks down07:44
dawn!busybox07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about busybox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
ahlalo_elyonKite_DH: Run "firefox" from a terminal and watch the output.07:45
Kite_DHwait07:45
carutsuis there a way to mute the damn flash sounds in Konqueror?07:45
Kite_DHhttp://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/47807:45
aneeshi...how can i check which packages are installed in ubuntu...and how to remove any pacakge07:45
aneesplz guide me07:45
ahlalo_elyonHow do I completely format a drive in Ubuntu?  I have an MP3 player that ubuntu corrupted (because of a crash) and I can't use it now.  I'm pretty sure a reformat would help... anyone?07:46
ahlalo_elyonanees: Use either Synaptic or Adept07:46
carutsu!apt|anees07:46
ubotuanees: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:46
ahlalo_elyon!adept |anees07:46
ubotuanees: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:46
carutsu!format|ahlalo_alyon07:46
ubotuahlalo_alyon: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter07:46
sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: try running scandisk on it in windows, the same thing happened with mine07:46
ahlalo_elyoncarutsu: Thank you.07:46
carutsuahlalo_alyon: np07:47
Kite_DHahlalo_elyon: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/47807:47
ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: I'd rather not HAVE to use Windows, although the support in LInux is absolutely horrendous... had nothing but corruption problems ...07:47
sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: you can't run fsck on a windows partition?07:47
aneesok07:47
sonoftheclayr!fsck07:47
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot07:47
dawni changed my /etc/modules file and I get this "sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" now07:47
ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: My problem is that my MP3 player, every time I update it in Linux, gets corrupted in some form... though usually not this bad.  MTP support doesn't exist in Linux for this player, apparently.07:48
dawnhow do I get back and reapply my backup of that file?07:49
ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: And now, all the files I just copied to my player with Amarok have strange, random-character names... and they can't be deleted (read-only)07:49
sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: what sort of mp3 player is, what filesystem and what do you use to update it?07:49
carutsuis there a way to mute the flash sounds in Konqueror?07:49
ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: The player is a Sansa e260... used to be a great player until I switched to Linux.07:49
Kite_DHahlalo_elyon: did you see it?07:49
sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: yeah, the exact same thing happened with mine, run scandisk in windows (i know, i know) and never use amarok again07:49
ahlalo_elyonHad problems ever since.07:49
sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: i just copy the files straight onto it in konqueror07:50
ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: Well, since using my player in Linux, Windows doesn't recognize my player anymore... at all.07:50
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sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: you say it's read-only? copy the files onto your harddisk or something and reformat it07:50
ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: That's why I was here... didn't know how to reformat it ;)07:51
sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: gparted is probably the easiest07:51
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sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: what filesytem is it?07:52
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ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: I have no idea... I thought it used to be fat32... but I have no way of knowing now.07:52
sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: type mount into konsole07:52
ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: Just tried running gparted, but it doesn't list my mp3 player... is there some kind of setting I need to change?07:53
sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: with it plugged in07:53
ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: Ah... it's vfat07:53
sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: on the top right there should be a devices dropdown menu07:54
ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: Ah, yep... found it.07:54
sonoftheclayrwhat is the lowlatency image?07:54
Kite_DHhmm...07:54
Kite_DHsomebody help please07:55
ahlalo_elyonKite_DH: We've tried and you've ignored us.07:55
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Kite_DHhuh07:55
Kite_DHlets see07:55
Kite_DHi gave you the output07:55
ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: Now, I don't see an option to format that drive... I've unmounted it, but I can't format it.07:56
carutsuKite_DH: yes i saw it it's a weird output, the error is "segmentation fault"07:57
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: run firefox -safe-mode07:57
Kite_DHsonoftheclayr: how can i do that07:57
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: from konsole or run command07:57
sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: if you right click on the partition you want to change you should be able to choose format or something from it07:58
Kite_DHsonoftheclayr: want to see output?07:58
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: sorry, no can do i don't have X at the moment07:59
Kite_DHoh07:59
ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: Yeah... "Format" was greyed out... and when I tried to format it anyway, it crashed... the next time I tried to do it, it said it contained a mounted file system (although Ihad already unmounted it)07:59
sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: unmount it from the menu07:59
Kite_DHanyway, here is what it says http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/47908:00
ahlalo_elyoni did08:00
Kite_DHoh wow, it works again08:01
Kite_DHhehe08:01
Kite_DHthx08:01
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: is that with the -safe-mode flag?08:01
Kite_DHsonoftheclayr: yes it is08:01
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: faulty extension or theme08:01
Kite_DHyes08:02
Kite_DHi uninstalled it08:02
Kite_DH=)08:02
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aneesubotu: is there any terminal command to check whcih package is installed and how to remove it from terminal08:02
Kite_DHthx for your help guys08:02
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: np08:02
ahlalo_elyonsonoftheclayr: Again: "/sdb1 contains a mounted filesystem"08:02
aneesI checked adept but i need command line help08:02
sonoftheclayranees: do you know the name of the package?08:02
aneesno08:02
aneesI need to know which package is installed on my system08:03
ahlalo_elyonanees: There are thousands of packages installed... you need to be more specific.08:03
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aneesok...you are right08:03
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Jucatoactually just 931 packages on a fresh install :)08:04
ahlalo_elyonJucato: Oh shush ;)08:04
flacciduse dpkg -l08:04
flaccidand apt-get remove to uninstall a package08:04
ahlalo_elyongrr... I can't believe I have to use Windows to do this...08:05
aneesflaccid:  thanx...u r genius....I love you08:05
ahlalo_elyonI'll be back.... assuming I can actually read this player in Windows now.08:05
flaccidsweet as then anees08:05
sonoftheclayrahlalo_elyon: good luck08:05
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flaccidafter doing an upgrade from dapper to feisty with numerous apt/pkg problems, i am a bit more skilled on the package front08:06
flaccidand it hasn't crashed yet lol08:06
sonoftheclayrflaccid: the upgrade was a success?08:06
sonoftheclayrit should be possible to upgrade straight from the supported versions to the latest version without any troubles08:07
flaccidLinux IONATAEUS 2.6.20-14-386 #2 Mon Apr 2 20:34:35 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux08:07
flaccidso far yes08:07
flaccidsonoftheclayr: lol08:08
flacciddo yo know how many i have done - upgrades08:08
sonoftheclayrflaccid: a few?08:08
flaccidat least a dozen on ubuntu, each one had problems08:08
flaccidnone of those upgrades a novice would of completed08:08
sonoftheclayrflaccid: really? the most trouble i've had with an upgrade is the wireless card08:08
flaccidyes really08:08
flaccidits not the same for everyone in the world. especially if you install additional packages and repos in the life of the former install08:09
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sonoftheclayrflaccid: i guess i must be lucky08:09
kalorinok this is so whack08:09
flaccidsome are, lots are not "_08:09
kalorinmy xorg.conf file no matter hwat I do ignores the DPMS stuf08:10
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kalorinso I can't blank the screen after x minutes08:10
kalorinor whatever08:10
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erikja!nvidia08:10
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:10
abortdthere any good rpgs for linux out there?08:11
aneesflaccid: i have some visio files...how can i open visio files in ubuntu08:11
flaccidvisio is m$ isn't it08:11
aneesyes08:12
flaccidfile extension?08:12
Jucatoanees: install dia or kivio08:12
aneesok08:12
aneeslet me tell you extention08:12
sonoftheclayri have concluded that the nvidia legacy driver will not work with the 2.6.20-14-generic restricted modules, guess i'll have to install the 386 kernel08:12
Jucatosonoftheclayr: tried asking in #ubuntu+1 ?08:13
sonoftheclayrJucato: yeah i have but i never get a reply08:13
sonoftheclayri'll try again08:13
Jucatoconsidering timezones... you might want to try later08:13
aneesflaccid:  i think extension is vsd08:14
sonoftheclayrJucato: okay, i'll ask every hour :)08:14
Jucatoheh08:14
aneesJucato: i m installing dia and kivio08:14
flaccidanees: sounds good08:15
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Jucato!away > XenThraL08:17
XenThraLJucato: know how I can change konversation's behavior08:18
XenThraLwhen I press the set global away option?08:18
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JucatoXenThraL: Settings -> Identity -> Away tab08:19
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Jucatouncheck the "Show away messages"08:19
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XenThraLcool08:19
Cosmo_hmmm I downloaded the printer drivers for my printer from the brother site but I can not figure out how to install this, every time I try to install it through the package manager it gives me "mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/spool/lpd/FAX1840C': No such file or directory"08:20
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XenThraLlooked (almost) everywhere and didn't see that08:20
Jucato:)08:20
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djhello08:27
djall08:27
aneesflaccid: i need to know which packages are installed starting with f...what what will be the command08:27
flacciddpkg -l08:28
flaccidoops08:28
flaccidum08:28
aneesi need to know which are started with f08:28
flaccidyou alrady said that08:28
flaccidi'll check the man08:28
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flaccidotherwise you'll need to use grep regexp08:28
aneesok...thanx08:28
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flaccidits in the manual for it08:29
flaccidman dpkg08:29
flaccidin the examples08:29
flacciddpkg -l 'f*'08:29
aneesok08:29
aneesflaccid: thanx... i love u again08:30
flaccidhehe sweet np08:30
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abortd!compile08:32
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)08:32
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aneesflaccid: i m again disturbing you...actually i've installed a game  flight-of-the-amazon-queen but not know how to run that game08:39
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flacciddo you ever read the manual/documentation?08:40
aneesno...08:40
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aneesi don't know where it is installed08:40
aneesi don't know it's location08:40
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aneesi installed it via apt-get install08:40
flaccidwhat was the name of the package08:40
aneesflight-of-the-amazon-queen08:41
flaccidshe better be hot08:41
flaccid!flight-of-the-amazon-queen08:41
anees:)...08:41
aneeshehe...no idea..08:41
flaccid!info flight-of-the-amazon-queen08:41
ubotuflight-of-the-amazon-queen: a fantasy adventure game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 35682 kB, installed size 53028 kB08:41
flaccidgoogle is good in this situation08:41
flaccidor trying commands like flight-of-the-amazon-queen08:42
flaccidor looking it up on packages.ubuntu.com08:42
aneesi tried flight-of-the-amazon-queen...but failed08:42
terraHi, wie bekommt man die coole Kontrollleiste unter Kubuntu(Edgy) mit Bery hin --> http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/themes/tryglass.jpg08:42
flaccidthe best thing is to look at the contents of the package08:42
N0Lif3I like how here on my mac, I can press that rarely used "menu" and irssi will jump to the next tab (as if I did a "/window next" command), I haven't been able to do the same with any other terminal software.08:42
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icecruncher!samba08:43
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:43
aneesok...man...again thanx08:43
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flaccidanees: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/games/flight-of-the-amazon-queen08:43
icecrunchertha's a cool game! lol08:43
sonoftheclayranees: try /usr/games/queen08:44
aneesok08:44
flaccidshould just be queen08:45
flaccidfor the command08:45
terra Hi, how can I get this cool taskbar with Kubuntu(Edgy) and Bery? --> http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/themes/tryglass.jpg08:46
aneesflaccid: got it....thanx08:46
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flaccidnp08:49
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vigneshI have an Intel 946GZ motherboard , I refered the manual and it says I need to install the sound card driver and then enable the mic..08:56
vigneshany idea how to do that ?08:56
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jtmoneyis there a way to suspend or hibernate from the command line?08:59
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CharlesHKGi have been trying to install kubuntu onto an external HDD, but it doesnt seem to like scsi usb drives...can anyone help?09:03
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Asturwenas09:05
kashif_kubuntu did not install arcmage becuse this software use for  chm file to html format09:06
CharlesHKGhas anyone had problems installing kubuntu edgy?09:06
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anti_pophow can i add adept-notify add as autostart ? somehow i disabled it some weeks ago09:08
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unix_infidelanyone know if at the kernel freeze there will be a seperate release or is it just a management deadline.09:15
unix_infidelthat being said, only a few days before servers are overloaded :P09:16
N0Lif3In KDesktop, under Behavior, there is a "Menu Bar at Top of Screen" option that'll put a toolbar at top that'll always show an app's "File, Edit," etc. This works well with just about every app I've tried it with. The only one that has been uncompatible with the Mac OS X-esque style toolbar is Opera webbrowser. Do you guys know how I can make Opera work with this KDE "Menu Bar at Top of Screen"09:17
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anti_popis it able to have the same visual setting as superuser as my normal desktop settings ?09:26
anti_pop*possible09:27
jontecI'm having a problem with fuse on 6.06 (live cd... yes, I know... but I really need to delete something off a linux partiation)09:27
jontecI cannot install ntfs-3g09:27
anti_popthe fonts are way too big for my small screen, and i dont like the colors..09:27
jtholmesanti_pop: yes i run all my windows as root and have the same settings09:27
anti_popat least id make it red to warn myself :)09:27
jtholmesanti_pop: the  # in the prompt string tells you it is root09:28
anti_popi mean, if i use font 123 as normal user, but then with superuser i get Sans or whatever the default font is09:28
anti_popso how can i change root accunt settings ?09:29
anti_popstart the settings managing program as root ?09:29
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jagerthat will work anti_pop09:29
jtholmesanti_pop: took the words out of my mouth09:29
zezellejager:  salut09:29
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anti_popand will not cause problems as long i do only appearance stuff (colors, fonts, etc) ??09:30
zezelleja you be okays sir09:30
jtholmesanti_pop: however i went the long way around and started root sessions for all my windows and saved session09:30
zezellejager:   hello darling09:30
jtholmesanti_pop: i do everything and no problems09:30
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anti_popisnt this possibly dangerous, run everything as root ?09:30
anti_popisnt this something, linux security is all about...not beeing root all the time O.o ?09:31
jtholmesanti_pop: yes but i have been doing this for years so I know what not to do09:31
anti_popallright09:31
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jtholmesanti_pop: yes again but i hate sudo except to keep other in check09:32
jtholmesanti_pop: other folks in check that is09:32
anti_popunderstandably09:32
jtholmesanti_pop: i own the machine if i mess up then shame on me09:32
anti_pophmm i need to be root only few times09:33
anti_popbut thats dependent of computer usage i guess09:33
jtholmesanti_pop: i found a long time ago   rm *   was very dangerous so i never type it until i do a  pwd09:33
anti_popsorry rm is ?09:34
jtholmesanti_pop: sounds like you shouls use  sudo09:34
anti_popi do :)09:34
jtholmesanti_pop:  remove files09:34
anti_popokay09:34
anti_popthe shell delete command ?09:34
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jtholmesanti_pop: not actually  it is a standalone  linux command09:34
jtholmesanti_pop: the shell is just a command line manager09:35
jtholmesanti_pop: it executes all the other commands in the linux toolbox09:35
anti_popwhen i was very very new to linux (im still new, but know how to get many things fixed), it was a pain to find the delete command in recovery terminal09:36
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anti_popwasnt able to delete a autostarting service that messed everything up09:36
anti_popuntil i found "rm" i guess09:36
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anti_popso what would be the command line to start the thing where i can change style, fonts, colors of kde ?09:38
jtholmesanti_pop: some newer folks use the GUI file manager but I am old command line hack and that is were i will have to stay09:38
anti_popdont know what the program is called09:38
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anti_popwell for file managment i prefer a GUI, just for a better overview09:38
jtholmeswhat release of  kubuntu09:39
anti_popbut with good skills @ the terminal its propably good09:39
anti_popfeisty09:39
jtholmesok then do you see the rectangular K icon where the Windows Start menu Icon usually is09:39
anti_popyeah, but i need to run is as root09:40
jtholmesanti_pop: no you can run as normal user09:40
anti_popso i just need the command line to start the part of system-settings to change the visual apperance09:40
anti_popyou forgot, i want to change the settings for the root's gui09:40
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anti_popsince its way too big for my small display and doesnt fit my color scheme09:41
jontecWhat you would need is to run the gui from the root user... but I've always had trouble doing a root kdesu <program> both on my 64-bit laptop and my 32-bit desktop (dapper and edgy on both)09:41
jontecI think...09:41
jtholmesanti_pop: r u going to login from the Kde startup as root or some normal user09:41
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anti_popist it possible just to run that program with kdesu or sudo ?09:42
anti_pop*is09:42
jtholmesanti_pop: as far as I know you can only be one user at a time either root or some other user09:42
jontecfor example, I can do kdesu konqueror and my user (jontec), but not as root09:42
sonoftheclayrhow do i find the pci devid of my graphcics card?09:43
anti_popsudo systemsettings ?09:43
jontecsorry not and my user.... as my user09:43
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jontecsonoftheclayr: lspci might cough it up09:43
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jontecoh or do you mean where it's mounted in /dev/ ?09:43
sonoftheclayrjontec: already tried it09:43
jtholmessonoftheclayr:  lspci  -vv09:43
anti_popjtholmes: that works, i can change the fonts and colors, etc now for the root account, logged in as normal user09:44
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jtholmesanti_pop: whatever user you are logged in as is the one that will be changed09:45
anti_pophehe even the settings of normal and root user at the same time, so i can copy every detail09:45
jtholmesanti_pop: if you su in a window the changes will only effect the user you originally logged in as09:45
jtholmesanti_pop: you have to edit  the  kdmrc  file to allow root to login09:46
mackymanHey! I have problems getting mod_rewrite on my apache server. I have checked the forums, and found no solution. Seems like my apache-searver don't even want to use my .htaccess file09:47
jtholmesanti_pop: by default root is blocked from logging into KDE under [K] Ubuntu09:47
anti_popjtholmes: look here: http://www.divshare.com/download/374227-67809:47
jtholmesanti_pop: that is in german, correct is that the display you want to see09:48
anti_popyou think changes in the root one will not take affect ? since its a normal session ?09:49
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jtholmesanti_pop: if you login as  UserA  and you make any changes to KDE display then they take effect for UserA only09:50
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anti_popi will test it and let you know09:50
jtholmesanti_pop: if you login as root and make changes then they will take effect for the  root  user only09:50
anti_popsudo kate09:51
anti_popwhoops wrong window09:51
sonoftheclayranti_pop: use kdesu kate instead09:51
jtholmesanti_pop: remember  logging in as root is not the same as  sudo su -   in an X window09:51
sonoftheclayralways use kdesu for gui apps09:51
jtholmesanti_pop: when you login as root you are using the KDE info in  /root/.kde  not   /home/UserA/.kde09:52
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anti_popi dont have a root session available @ starting X09:53
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pranav_anti_pop: ?09:56
jtholmesanti_pop: that is why i said you have to change  kdmrc  to allow root as a user that can login to the machine09:56
gustavohellooooooooo09:56
anti_popis it really so complicates to change the root's fonts, etc..i cant believe that09:56
jtholmesanti_pop: by default root is not allowd to login09:56
anti_popand enabling that will add a "root" session to choose from ?09:57
jtholmesanti_pop: yes09:57
anti_popcan you tell me where exactly i find that option ?09:58
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gustavoanyone can tell me why debians users are most stupid?09:58
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anti_popis this the groups/users thing in the settings 09:58
jtholmesanti_pop: in  kdmrc  file   set this   AllowRootLogin=true09:59
jtholmesanti_pop:  no it is a separate file09:59
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flaccidgustavo: language :)09:59
anti_popwhere is that file ?09:59
gustavosorry, but thats true09:59
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gustavoeverytime i ask a question they first insult, and do not help09:59
jtholmesanti_pop:  /etc/./kde3/kdm/kdmrc10:00
gustavoi just cant understand that, lol10:00
ferwenas10:00
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anti_popthanks ill login as root now10:00
flaccidgustavo: thats pretty normal for irc10:00
jtholmesgustavo: sorry for the bad behavior of my fellow linux folks10:00
flaccidpeople in general are the problem, not debian10:01
anti_popjtholmes: i cant see the option10:01
Ayabarapeople just ain't no good10:01
anti_popi mean the new root session10:01
mackymanCan anyone try to help me with mod_rewrite? I have tried to get it working for several hours now...10:01
jtholmesgustavo: some folks get tired of answering the same questions over and over. i say get use to answering the same question we all had to learn at some poing in time10:01
gustavojtholmes: its strange, itsnt the first time, always happens... :/  here ppl are most helpful...10:01
jtholmesgustavo: some channels are really rugged10:02
gustavojtholmes: itsnt the point, it doesnt matter if the question is stupid or not :P10:02
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anti_popi have a "KDE" a "recovery" and a "standart" session or so10:03
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anti_popwhen do changes here take effect:  /etc/./kde3/kdm/kdmrc10:03
gustavowhatever...10:04
jtholmesanti_pop: do you see the file10:04
anti_popi already editet it to "true"10:04
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anti_popallowloginasroot or whatever it was called10:04
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jtholmesanti_pop: then logout and login back in you should have root login however, first change your root password10:05
jtholmesanti_pop:   sudo  su passwd    enter  new passwd10:05
anti_popwhat would be default root password ? my user password ?10:05
gustavowhen i try to shut a query or channel, i always close the irc app by mistake10:05
jtmoneyis there a way to suspend or hibernate from the command line?10:05
anti_popand why should i change my root password ?10:05
jtholmesanti_pop:  there is no default root pw it is garbage that is why root is locked out10:06
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jtholmesanti_pop: if you dont change root pw you will not be able to login as root10:06
anti_popcan i use the same password ?10:06
jtholmesanti_pop: use any pw you want to10:06
gustavosure10:06
anti_popthanks10:06
blairjamehow do i change root password?10:07
gustavo[05:05]  <jtholmes> anti_pop:   sudo  su passwd    enter  new passwd10:07
dystopianrayjtmoney: try sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh10:07
pparkerhi,i've got big problems with Xorg, somebody can help me ?10:07
gustavoblairjame: [05:05]  <jtholmes> anti_pop:   sudo  su passwd    enter  new passwd10:07
anti_popjtholmes: sudo  su passwd    enter  new passwd <-- passwd = passwd for real or my password (understand eh?? ) ?10:08
anti_popdo i type "passwd" or my password ?10:08
gustavopasswd10:08
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blairjameit says "Unknown id: passwd"10:08
gustavothen the password10:08
anti_popyup10:08
gustavolike: su passwd mypassword10:08
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anti_popok10:08
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pparkeri'm using kde and when i choose to logout it takes looong times (up to two minutes before closing X)10:08
anti_popUnknown id: passwd10:09
jtholmesgustavo: thanks i had to step away10:09
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gustavono10:09
gustavosorry10:09
gustavodo this way:10:09
gustavosudo su passwd (press enter)10:09
gustavothen type password10:09
blairjametried it that way too10:09
gustavoi mean, your password10:09
blairjamesame error message10:09
anti_popmichael@BlackboX:~$ sudo su passwd10:09
anti_popUnknown id: passwd10:09
wolferinelmao10:10
jtholmesanti_pop: my mistake    sudo passwd root10:10
anti_pop sudo su passwd root10:10
anti_popUnknown id: passwd10:10
blairjamethere we go10:10
gustavoyeap... you need to specify the root, sorry10:10
blairjamethanks jtholmes10:10
jtholmesanti_pop:   sudo  passwd  root   enter  passwd  twice10:10
blairjamealthought, considering we need to set a root password to install software, the INSTALLER SHOULD HAVE DONE IT.10:10
AbortDshouldnt sudo su | password work?10:10
anti_popworked10:10
gustavono, you need the user id10:11
AbortDhm i never do10:11
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AbortDheh10:11
anti_popill try loggin in there10:11
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jtholmesanti_pop: ok now you can logout and login backin change user to root and etenr root pw and presto10:11
gustavoif you want to change the pass you have to specify what user you want to set the new pass10:11
premier_Hi, I just downloaded a kdm theme from kde-look.org.  How do I install it?10:11
premier_Its a .tar.gz file that unpacks to include a .desktop file, a .xml file, and a couple of .pngs10:12
jtholmesAbortD: dont think so  that would pipe outptu of sudo command into command  password   not familiar with  command  password10:12
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pparkeri really need some help for my systems lockups, please help me !!10:13
AbortDi see jtholmes10:14
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jtholmespparker: what kind of lockups10:14
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pparkerjtholmes: when i logout it takes up to 5 minutes before closing X10:15
AbortDlol10:16
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pparkerjtholmes: when i leave it alone , when i return X uses all my cpu10:17
AbortDbwahahaa10:17
jtholmespparker: sounds like X is waiting on something   look  in /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:17
jtholmesand see waht x is doing10:17
pparkeri looked and saw nothing10:18
pparkernothing wrong10:18
jtholmespparker: what do u mean when you return10:18
AbortDdoes x always use alot of cpu?10:18
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pparkerno only when i leave it alone for a while10:19
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AbortDhm10:19
livenicelyhello10:19
AbortD?10:20
jtholmespparker: did this just start happening10:20
livenicelywhen i play .dat file or vcd in kaffiene i can hear sound10:20
livenicelyno sound in kaffiene with .dat file? help me plz?10:20
mackymanWHEY! Atlast got mod_rewrite to work ^^10:21
pparkerjtholmes: i disabled my screensaver and use nv driver but it still crashes10:21
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puppetmasterI want to know how to configure GRUB?10:22
jtholmespparker: did this behavior just start occuring lately10:22
puppetmasterHow to edit the boot screen in ubuntu?10:22
pparkerjtholmes: i'm using kubuntu for quite some time10:23
jtholmespuppetmaster: do you mean the grub selection menu10:23
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puppetmasteryes10:23
puppetmasterthere is alot of lines and I only need two10:23
jtholmespuppetmaster: /boot/grub/menu.lst  contains that info10:23
puppetmasterwindows and ubuntu10:23
AbortDdelete them10:23
busfahrerI switched from kdm back to gdm back to kdm, now I want the 'kubuntu' logo during boot back, instead of the ubuntu logo. How do I do that?10:24
puppetmasterI want the windows to be indefault10:24
puppetmasterhow to?10:24
jtmoneyyo10:24
puppetmasterI want the windows be default10:24
jtholmespuppetmaster: near top of file says  default  and has a number that is the number of the entry10:25
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livenicelyno sound in kaffiene with .dat file? help me plz?10:25
jtholmespparker: yes but wehn did this behaviour start10:25
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jtholmespuppetmaster: sorry my mistake confused  lilo and grub10:26
pparkerjtholmes: when i leave my computer for some time and when i go back it uses all my cpu10:27
krautmoin10:27
jtholmespuppetmaster:  need to enter savedefault as one of the options in the particular  boot section10:27
jtholmespparker: yes i understand taht, but when did this start occurring?10:27
pparkerjtholmes: i can only move my mouse but click don't work and keyboard too10:27
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pparkerjtholmes: i think it's 2 months old10:28
jtholmespuppetmaster: move the windows grub lines to the top of the file and ad teh attrib  savedefault in that sequence10:28
jtholmespparker: then you might want to try to reconfig X with the following command10:29
livenicelyno sound in kaffiene with .dat file? help me plz?10:29
jtholmesdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:30
jtholmespparker: until you get to a known state there is not telling what is happening10:30
pparkerjtholmes: i laready looked at my xorg.conf10:30
puppetmasterthere are 3 lines Do I move them all?10:30
jtholmespuppetmaster: yes move them all but first keep a copy of the existing file10:31
puppetmastertitleMicrosoft SiCoXP-SP3 Professional10:31
puppetmasterroot(hd0,0)10:31
puppetmastersavedefault10:31
puppetmastermakeactive10:31
puppetmasterchainloader+110:31
puppetmasterWhat shpuld I do?10:31
busfahrerI switched from kdm back to gdm back to kdm, now I want the 'kubuntu' logo during boot back, instead of the ubuntu logo. How do I do that?10:31
puppetmasterSo10:31
jtholmespuppetmaster: move all 5 and the savedefault is already there10:31
puppetmasterok10:31
puppetmasterthanks10:31
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pparkerjtholmes: i think kdm segault or something like that10:32
pparkerbecause i already read some problems with kdm10:33
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puppetmasterThere is another savedefault option on the firist ubuntu line do i del it?10:33
jtholmespparker: one thing you might try is to move your /home/USER/.kde  to  /home/USER/.Okde and logout and log back in and it will create a new .kde directory and that might solve your problem10:33
puppetmaster?10:34
jtholmespuppetmaster: no it will only take effect if you boot that entry10:34
pparkerjtholmes: or i create a new account10:34
puppetmasterso10:34
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puppetmasterI leave it the way it is10:34
puppetmaster?10:34
jtholmespparker: yes or create new acct10:34
jtholmespuppetmaster: yes leave it the way it is but know that what ever booted last and has the savedefault will be the default then next time10:35
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jtholmespuppetmaster: dont remember how to make one permanent default look at the grub man page10:35
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busfahrerI switched from kdm back to gdm back to kdm, now I want the 'kubuntu' logo during boot back, instead of the ubuntu logo. How do I do that?10:36
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pollyobusfahrer: What is gdm and kdm?10:36
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busfahrerpolly: The login managers from Gnome and KDE, respectively?10:36
icecruncheryes10:37
pollyobusfahrer: How do they effect your system? Other then the loader?10:37
busfahrerpolly: The first change from gdm to kdm changed the boot screen to 'kubuntu', but now it doesn't anymore, and I wan't the kubuntu boot screen10:38
busfahrerpollyo, sorry10:38
jtholmesbusfahrer: the exact method escapes me at the moment google switching desktops and it should tell you how10:38
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pparkerjtholmes: i try it immediatly, hope to go back soon10:38
pollyobusfahrer: Isn't there something that will allow you to use any image?10:39
jtholmesbusfahrer: google 'switching desktops'10:39
icecruncherjtholmes: yes, it's somewhere in there10:39
mrignsreinstalling the splash should do the trick10:39
anti_popjtholmes: thanks, i was able to what i wanted10:39
jtholmesanti_pop: welcome10:39
gustavoi removed my kde and kdm but it stills as an option on the session manager, how do i remove it?10:39
anti_popthanks for you patience10:39
jtholmesanti_pop: just be careful all windows will be ROOT10:39
busfahrerjtholmes: cheers10:39
anti_popjtholmes: yes i will not login again10:39
anti_popjtholmes: logged in as usual normal user again10:40
icecruncheranybody any suggestion on how to spee up the internet connection, (not the disabling ipv6 part)??10:40
icecruncher*speed10:40
anti_popshould i disable the "allow login as root" again, is this a security risk ?10:40
sonoftheclayranti_pop: yes10:40
gustavoi removed my kde and kdm but it stills as an option on the session manager, how do i remove it? - is it possible?10:41
mrigns!repeat | gustavo10:41
ubotugustavo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience10:41
gustavoyeah, yeah... i know that, thanks anyway10:41
jtholmesgustavo:  it is probably   dpkg-reconfigure  kde   but not sure  gogle   dpkg-reconfigure  kde10:42
jtholmeslater guys it is going for 2AM here and I gotta work tomorrow10:42
anti_popok gotta go, thanks for all help, have a nice day10:42
anti_popsun is shining!10:42
anti_popbye10:42
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pollyobusfahrer: In adept there seems to be quite a few items with the filter "splash"10:43
gustavojtholmes thanks10:43
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mrigns!ping10:44
ubotupong10:44
busfahrergot it, thanks10:44
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: do you know by any chance if it's possible to continue adept after the download part?10:44
pollyoWhat are grub splashimages?10:44
pollyoAnyone ever look at the kubuntu-grub-splashimages package?10:44
icecruncher!splash10:44
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.10:44
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dawsonhello everyone!10:50
icecruncheranybody is it's possible to continue adept after the download part?10:50
icecruncherhi10:50
dawsonAnyone have any ideas why wireless assistant won't connect to my network?10:50
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icecruncher!wireless | dawson10:51
ubotudawson: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:51
icecruncherhave you tried that?10:51
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icecruncheranybody, is it's possible to continue apt-get after the download part?10:55
sonoftheclayricecruncher: i think so10:56
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: I'm debating wether or not to quit the update (because of limited time) before download completion or after. I'mm not sure if it'l mess up all the configurations, and or if you have to run dpkg --configure -a10:58
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icecrunchersonoftheclayr: any advice?11:00
unix_infidelicecruncher: if its just downloading the packages, its likely that its not messed with configs as of yet.11:00
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icecruncherunix_infidel: yes, but then, after I've started to unpack, does it matter?11:01
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unix_infideli'd wager yea.11:01
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icecruncherso what's the best way to go about this? stop before the last part is downloaded?11:02
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unix_infidelif its downloaded the packages, then it'll just use the most recent of the two locally or in repos i'd think.11:02
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icecruncherright, but this is a dist upgrade11:02
Dekansdoes kopete support jingle library on feisty ?11:03
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N0Lif3How can I set Kubuntu's desktop orientation to arrange icons to the right side (Mac OSX-style)?11:05
icecruncherN0Lif3: try the #kde channel11:06
N0Lif3icecruncher: will do11:07
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ubuntuQuestion: Im on the liveCD. i want to install GRUB on my USB stick11:08
ubuntuthe installation wizard recognizes it as 'sdd'11:08
ubuntuso at the end of installation wizard11:08
icecruncher!grub | ubuntu11:08
ubotuubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:08
ubuntui set grub to be installed at 'sdd' instead of (hd0)11:08
ubuntubut it didn't work11:09
ubuntuchrist KDE is slow. thanks ice11:09
icecrunchernp11:09
ubuntubut11:09
ubuntuwhat is (hd0) ?11:09
icecruncherubuntu: your harddrive11:09
ubuntuwhich? i have 3. im assuming hda...?11:10
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icecruncherthe first one11:10
ubuntuso hd4 would be the usb stick, no?11:10
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icecruncheri think it would be sdb1 or sda111:10
liam_hi guys can you help me with a creative zen on kubuntu11:10
liam_?11:10
icecruncherliam_: what kind of problem?11:11
liam_cant get it to be recognised in amarok11:11
icecruncherliam_: dunno, try using a program, they have one under add/remove if you've enabled the mutli and universe repositories11:12
liam_ok11:12
icecruncher!amarok | liam_11:12
ubotuliam_: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok11:12
liam_i just wondered if i needed seperate drivers11:12
icecruncherdon't thnk so11:13
terra Hi, how can I get this cool taskbar with Kubuntu(Edgy) and Bery? --> http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/themes/tryglass.jpg11:13
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liam_thanks guys11:13
icecrunchernp11:13
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icecruncherterra, try #beryl11:14
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wilykatello11:15
icecruncherhi11:15
terra@icecruncher   I have installed beryl but how can I configurate it to do this things?11:16
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Kite_DHcan somebody help me?  my azureus crashed, this is the output http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/48211:16
icecruncherterra: I don't know sorry, did you google search it?11:16
ubuntuif SDA is hd0, how do i find out what SDD is?11:16
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icecruncherubuntu: how about you restart and unplug all the uneccesary drives. lol11:17
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wilykatubuntu: usually sda,b,c etc11:17
ubuntuif 'sda' is hd0, how do i find otu what 'sdd' is?11:17
ubuntusorry!11:17
ubuntudidn't mean to post twice11:17
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ubuntuwilykat: kinda more complicated than that11:18
icecrunchernp11:18
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wilykatcould always run fdisk against each drive to recognise size?11:18
icecruncherKite_DH: sorry, try searching on launchpad11:18
Kite_DHwhats launchpad11:18
ubuntuas in "fdisk hda" ?11:19
icecruncherKite_DH: a bug reportin gsite11:19
Kite_DHoh11:19
wilykatalso if you know which ports your disks go into, sda will be port 1etc. fdisk /dev/sda then i think p prints partition table11:19
icecruncher!launchpad | Kite_DH11:19
ubotuKite_DH: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/11:19
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ubuntudoesnt work11:20
wilykatdid you su or sudo?11:20
wilykat(sorry should have mentioned that)11:20
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ubuntuits not that. just acts weird11:21
ubuntuif i do fdisk -l, it lists /dev/sd111:21
ubuntubut if i do fdisk /dev/sd1, says it can't open11:21
wilykatif you type ls /dev/sd* what is listed, first scsi/sata disc should be /dev/sda not sd111:22
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Kite_DHicecruncher: i didnt find anything that can help me :(11:22
icecruncherKite_DH: hmm, i'm sorry to say that i don't use berryl myself11:23
wilykatsda1 would be first partition on first disk11:23
Kite_DHicecruncher: eeeh...the question was nothing with beryl11:23
Kite_DHicecruncher: my azureus crashed11:23
Kite_DHicecruncher: and this is the output http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/48211:24
icecruncherKite_DH: ah sorry, got mixed up11:24
Kite_DHicecruncher: hehe :)11:24
icecruncherKite_DH; are yu trying to runn this over vm?11:25
Kite_DHicecruncher: v?11:25
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wilykatubuntu: any luck?11:25
Kite_DHicecruncher: vm* ?11:25
Kite_DHicecruncher: whats vm11:25
icecruncher!vm11:25
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications11:25
Kite_DHicecruncher: no, i just start azureus11:26
Kite_DHicecruncher: and it crashes11:26
icecrunchertry reinstalling your java11:26
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sonoftheclayrKite_DH: did you have a look at the error report file it mentions near the end?11:26
icecruncherbecause a lot of the errors are with libraries, so i'd hit on your java environment11:26
Kite_DHicecruncher: i saw that, but i dont know how to fix that11:27
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icecruncherdid you look at this hs_err_pid7782.log?11:28
Kite_DHwhere to find that log11:28
Kite_DHah there it is11:29
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icecruncherpaste it will you?11:29
Kite_DHsure11:29
Kite_DHicecruncher: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/48311:29
icecruncherthks11:29
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icecruncherI'd say it's the same thing11:30
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icecrunchercheck line 5,11:30
icecruncherKite_DH: think that might be where it is11:31
Kite_DHicecruncher: "it" ?11:31
icecruncherthe error11:31
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Kite_DHicecruncher: oh, well... lets see11:31
lzapwhat version of Kmail is in Fiesty?11:31
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icecruncherinside this file Library=/usr/lib/jni/libglibjni-0.4.so11:31
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icecruncherlzap: tyope in konsole "kmail -v"11:32
Kite_DHits a binary file11:32
sonoftheclayrlzap: 1.9.611:33
icecruncheryes, and i believe it belong to the java part, as i said, you'd probably be best reinstalling java11:33
Kite_DHhow can i do that11:33
icecruncherapt-get reinstall java?11:34
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: it's a problem with libglib-java11:34
Kite_DHsonoftheclayr: so reinstall?11:34
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Kite_DH!java11:35
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.11:35
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: yeah reinstall it. sudo aptitude purge libglib-java && sudo apt-get install libglib-java11:35
Kite_DHsonoftheclayr: thx11:35
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: np11:35
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icecrunchersonoftheclayr: do you know by any chance if it's possible to continue adept after the download part? (during the unpacking stage)11:36
sonoftheclayricecruncher: no i don't11:37
icecruncher*apt-get11:37
icecruncherk11:37
sonoftheclayricecruncher: adept or apt-get?11:37
icecruncherapt-get11:37
Kite_DHsonoftheclayr: azureus still crashes after reinstall of azureus and java11:38
Kite_DHsonoftheclayr: maybe restart?11:38
icecruncherKite_DH: yes11:38
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lzapkmail is very unstable with IMAP, and slow. I hope there will be much more stable version than from Edgy...11:39
Kite_DH!fsck11:39
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot11:39
N0Lif3What kind of battery lives do you guys have on your laptops? Mine runs for an hour on low-brightness, no wifi. It is kinda sad, but for a used-lappy, it's better than having a dead battery that can't hold a charge at all11:40
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lzap2 hours - ThinkPad R50e11:40
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sonoftheclayricecruncher: yes, it is possible11:40
icecruncherN0Lif3: wish i had a laoptop. lol11:40
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: how?11:40
N0Lif3icecruncher: hahah, yeah. I just got this one battery11:41
N0Lif3yesterday, I mean11:41
sonoftheclayricecruncher: just hit ctrl+c and do the same command again11:41
N0Lif3damn. I was thinking of batteries11:41
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: really, even with a dist update11:41
icecruncher?11:41
N0Lif3lzap: that's good. I wish I could pull 2hours.11:41
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: but the setup part has to be all in one right?11:42
sonoftheclayricecruncher: dist-upgrade maybe, i remember when i upgraded from dapper to edgy i stopped it during the download phase11:42
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icecrunchersonoftheclayrthat's what i'm doing, jsut that i'm running out of time. lol11:42
sonoftheclayricecruncher: i wouldn't try it with a dist-upgrade unless you want a broken system11:42
icecruncherLOL11:43
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Kite_DHicecruncher: still crashes :(11:43
\etc\binhello all,does openswan create a tun0 interface when started?11:43
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icecruncherKite_DH: try the entire java runtime, lol11:43
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: use ktorrent instead?11:43
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\etc\binim using a gneneric kernel but i dont have tun0 device?11:43
icecruncheryeah, or wine, utorrent11:43
Kite_DHsonoftheclayr: but i still have files running in azureus11:43
sonoftheclayrKite_DH: if you choose to save them in the same place you did in azureus ktorrent will scan them and pick up where azureus stopped11:44
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icecruncherKite_DH: and this problem was just today? did you run it before?11:44
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Kite_DHicecruncher: yes, after i installed the java plugin for mozilla firefox11:44
icecruncherahh11:44
Kite_DHi uninstalled it now11:45
Kite_DHand it still doesnt work11:45
icecruncherand it's till not working?11:45
icecruncherwow11:45
tarelerulz_This is beryle and the other one lets you kind of build your own interface for program by picking what bottons and so on for a program on the fly11:45
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Kite_DHicecruncher: yes11:45
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lzapN0Lif3: switch off all services (incl. syslog), turn off wifi, USB (11:45
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tarelerulz_Do any know what that is called11:46
lzapN0Lif3: clock down the CPU, disable updatedb etc11:46
Ginja_Ninja sorry to be a pain but can someone with permisssions knowledge please have a quick look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=406251 I am convinced there is a fast easy way of doing this. Thanks you very much.11:47
Ash-Foxchmod 777 /home/share11:47
Ash-Foxchmod a+rw /home/share11:48
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Ash-FoxGinja_Ninja, something like that.11:48
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Ash-FoxYou will want to use -R paramter to effect existing files in there.11:49
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\etc\binanyone?11:49
\etc\bin^^11:49
\etc\bin!ipsec11:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ipsec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:50
\etc\bin!openswan11:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openswan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:50
\etc\bin!vpn11:50
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...11:50
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Ash-FoxI'm glad I don't deal with ipsec anymore, the iptable chain rules would drive me up the wall.11:50
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Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: Thanks will give it a go. Just hopes it allows the deletion of other users files.11:51
Ash-FoxGinja_Ninja, it should11:51
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Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: Would the last seven of 777 give all permissions to people outside the "share" group ?11:52
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Ash-Fox777 give rwx to user, home, other11:52
\etc\binanyone using openswan on his/her ubuntu?11:52
Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: home?11:53
Ash-Foxyou probably just want todo something like chmod -R a+rw /home/share11:53
Ash-Foxerr user, group, other11:53
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dromerhi all, does anybody know how I can read .nfo-files from the commandline?11:56
dromerat least vim doesn't get the formatting od the one I'm trying to vieuw ..11:56
Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox:  Its bizzare. I get userB to create a folder and a text file in the "shared" directory and userA can only delete the text file not the folder. Have i missed something ?11:57
Ash-FoxIt's probably the super chmod flag on the folder, I forget how that works.11:58
Ash-FoxYXXX <- the Y code.11:58
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Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: Wow, never heard of that one before11:58
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Ash-FoxGinja_Ninja, what does ls -ll /home/share say?12:00
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Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: It says "Total 92, then shows me folders within the share folder12:02
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korielI messed up grub...how can I use kubuntu live cd to boot my hd kernel?12:03
CarinArrkoriel: your live cd should have option to boot from first partition12:04
Ash-FoxGinja_Ninja, try this: csudo chmod 00000 /home/share && sudo chmod a+rw /home/share12:04
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CarinArrelse you can boot into live cd, fix grub, and boot back up12:04
Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: http://www.cims.nyu.edu/cgi-comment/man.cgi?section=1&topic=chmod any use ?12:04
korielfirst partition has windows12:04
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Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox:12:06
Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: Neither user can now wrie to the dir.12:07
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Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: I reakky appreciate your help, has kept me up al night.12:07
Ash-FoxOh right, 'chmod a+x /home/share' too12:07
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tarelerulz_What do you need to install beryl ?12:09
Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: :( UserA can delete user'sB file but not folder12:09
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CarinArrtarelerulz_: proper graphics drivers12:10
CarinArrtarelerulz_: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu12:10
Ash-FoxGinja_Ninja, any newly created files should be deletable by both. Existing, no.12:11
Ash-FoxIn particular when it comes to folders12:11
tarelerulz_There is something like beryle ,but it lets you comsminz you gui for a program ?12:11
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tarelerulz_Starts with an M12:11
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Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: Well files work but i need to be able to delete rename folders as well. hmmm interesting12:12
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Ash-FoxGinja_Ninja, can you create new folders and delete them?12:12
Ginja_Ninjanot as a different user12:12
Ash-FoxBloody hell12:12
CarinArrtarelerulz_: no idea what youre talkinga bout, unless you're talking about emerald but thats' just a theme manager12:13
Ginja_Ninjasorry, i am sure you have more important things todo12:13
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Ash-FoxGinja_Ninja, you're using 'mkdir' right?12:13
Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: well actually i was using kde, is that wrong ?12:13
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tarelerulz_I don't remember what it is called either I remember it beenig cool and you could  real chage the lay out of gui  . I saw it done with calulator12:14
Ash-FoxGinja_Ninja, try using 'mkdir <folder>', it's possible konqueror is setting file permisions by itself.12:14
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Ash-FoxIf it works, then it's just a issue with Konqueror.. Hm, I wonder how one should solve this.12:15
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Ginja_Ninjapoo!12:16
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Ash-FoxGinja_Ninja, if I know it's konqueror, I can think of a workaround12:16
Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: seems to be the same using mkdir :(12:17
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Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: Does it matter that the owner is root ?12:19
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Ash-FoxGinja_Ninja, it shouldn't.12:20
Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: Because thats the only way to get a folder in /home12:20
Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: hmm12:21
Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: group id bit thingy ?12:21
Ash-FoxNo.12:21
Ginja_Ninjalol, wish i knew what i was talking about12:21
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Ash-FoxThere is a default chmod setting that one can set on folders that determines the default permisions of files created.12:22
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Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: Would umask come into it atall ?12:22
Ash-FoxBut I cannot remember what the heck that was.12:22
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Ash-FoxGinja_Ninja, doubt it.12:22
Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: i see12:22
Ginja_NinjaAsh-Fox: It seems funny that nobody else on the forums (of the people who saw it. It does move fast doesnt it) has never tried to create a folder to share between its users.12:23
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Ash-FoxI normally use file servers like samba to share between users.12:24
Ash-FoxBut that's usually because the users aren't usually on the same machine12:24
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os2macwhat's the name of the website for bugs?12:24
sonoftheclayr!launchpad | os2mac12:24
Ash-Foxlaunchpad.net12:24
ubotuos2mac: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/12:24
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dv__hello12:29
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dv__I have  a problem: audio CD playback is completely broken here12:29
sonoftheclayrhow can i change the theme of qt4 apps?12:30
dv__I insert the CD, and the HD light goes on, after about one minute finally a window appears what to do (play, encode)12:30
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dv__kscd does not play anything, though12:30
dv__and kaffeine hangs12:30
tarelerulz_I went to installing beryl and did the command and I get on on direct redering12:30
tarelerulz_I am lost12:30
dv__and since there are zero logs, I have absolutely no chance of fixing this. :/ reminds me of windows12:31
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tarelerulz_glxinfo | grep direct12:32
tarelerulz_direct rendering: No12:32
tarelerulz_OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect12:32
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treq1hello, how do i enable 'double click mode' instead of 'single click mode'?12:39
Jucatotreq1: System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Mouse12:39
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treq1thank you :)12:40
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treq1anyone can help me with this guide -->http://www.howtoforge.com/sharp_fonts_gnome_p2 for kubuntu?12:44
treq1or knows some link for other guide like this12:44
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pollyoHello12:50
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lupuldoes anyone know some photo editing program? like adobe photoshop for windows12:52
lupulplease12:52
lupulfor feisty12:52
CarinArrgimp12:52
lupulthanks. and for kde?12:52
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CarinArrnot sure.. krita maybe?12:52
lupulyes. but krita doesn't offer too much12:53
lupuland works a litttle slow12:53
lupuli'll try gimp thanks12:53
Jucatokrita is more of a painting and image creation app than an image manipulation/photo editing app12:53
Jucatobut it has the same basic image editing capabilities12:54
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lupulok12:54
lupulso do you know something more complex? please12:54
CarinArrdon't know of any other kde ones though;)12:54
JucatoThe GIMP12:54
lupulinstalling it now12:55
CarinArrthere's a program called pixel which tries to be a photoshop clone12:55
lupul!photo12:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about photo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
Jucatothey're both as complex as can be...12:55
lupulthat's what i wanted to hear12:55
lupulthanks very much12:55
CarinArrhowever last time i used it it was horrendously buggy12:55
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lupulshit12:56
lupulthat's what i didn't want to hear :))12:56
Jucato!language12:56
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:56
CarinArrthis is a year ago or so though, so it could be a lot better now12:56
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lupuloups. sorry12:56
Jucatolupul: he was referring to Pixel12:56
lupulyes i know12:56
CarinArrshe, but yes, i was referring to pixel12:56
Jucatowhich is a non-free app anyway12:56
lupuli was glad that it's a copy of pixel12:56
Jucatooh sorry, I forget :)12:56
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CarinArri'm all for free software, but sometimes there are no good free options;12:57
CarinArr;) even12:57
lupuli know12:57
lupulthanks again12:57
CarinArrthough, again, if you want to go non-free you might want to consider photoshop over cxoffice12:57
jack_hi is there an applet like a world map where you can put flags on places you have been or tag them with pictures, a bit like in flickr but as an offline thing?12:58
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pollyo!adeptfix01:05
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:05
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pollyoAnyone know if Firefox and Konqueror can be made to share the same bookmarks?01:08
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TheSpunkyLobsteranyone have any idea how i'd go about rescuing my dual boot system when it seems like all the parition tables have vanished and it can't boot because it says no operating system found?01:12
pollyoTheSpunkyLobster: Have you booted with a LiveCD or DVD to look at the partition information?01:14
TheSpunkyLobsteryeah, i followed a guide on the ubuntu wiki to run the live cd and use the install to get to the bit about manually partitioning01:15
TheSpunkyLobsterno paritions are there at all01:15
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pollyoTheSpunkyLobster: I'm not sure if it matters but did you check the bios to make sure the drive is recognized?01:17
TheSpunkyLobsteryup, the drive is detecting fine01:18
TheSpunkyLobsterit's showing up on the live cd install as well, just not with any of the paritions, and it's telling me that the whole drive is unallocated01:18
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LeeJunFan!info gpart01:20
ubotugpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB01:20
LeeJunFanyou are going to have to use gpart to find your partition table paramaters, and then use fdisk -u to restore them01:21
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LeeJunFanonce that's done you should have everything back to working order, but gpart can take some amount of time on a sizeable hd. Of course if you have backups of your partition tables ( which hardly anyone does) you can skip detecting.01:22
LeeJunFanI think the livecd has gpart01:22
TheSpunkyLobsterok i can try that :)01:23
TheSpunkyLobsteris the command just gpart from console? still a relative newby01:23
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: I've been there, I wiped out my partition table by accident once when I tried to write a floppy image, I wrote to the wrong drive and destroyed the first 1.4M of my hd.01:23
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TheSpunkyLobsterwhatever i did, i did while the laptop was turned off heh01:24
LeeJunFanI had all my digital photos from 4-5 years on that HD, and when I tried my backup of those pics the DVD had gone bad.01:24
TheSpunkyLobsterouch01:24
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TheSpunkyLobsteri just tried gpart from the live cd and it says bash gpart command not found01:25
LeeJunFanyeah, so I learned how to recover :)01:25
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: I think you can install software on the livecd - can't you? sudo apt-get install gpart01:25
TheSpunkyLobsterk will try that01:25
pranav_I am not able to run mozilla after its installation01:25
pranav_I DID apt-get install firefox01:26
TheSpunkyLobsterheh, just need to get the wireless card running... wish i had my kubuntu live cd and not the ubuntu one handy lol01:26
pranav_but Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib is the error that I get!!01:26
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pranav_can i get some help??01:27
pranav_?01:27
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kumamotopranav_: no errors?01:29
LeeJunFanpranav_: as opposed to that warning - which warning shouldn't stop an app from running.01:29
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pranav_as mentioned01:30
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superman123hello01:30
pranav_Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib is the error01:30
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pranav_Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers i meant warning01:31
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pranav_Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server01:31
pranav_Xlib: No protocol specified01:31
pranav_(firefox-bin:5497): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:01:31
pranav_these are the warnings and errors given by the machinr01:31
superman123I installed beryl and is working 100%, I just want to know if there is anything I can install to give me more effects and animations?01:31
pranav_s/machinr/machine01:31
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LeeJunFansuperman123: you installed beryl-plugins-unsupported ?01:33
kumamotosuperman123: I believe there are some plugins u can install check with adept01:34
pranav_??01:34
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s-tonedShould I stay with the version of Openoffice.org shipped with Ubuntu or may I, without problems, upgrade to a version from www.openoffice.org?01:35
superman123thanks for the help will check it out.01:35
LeeJunFans-toned: unless there's a feature you can't live w/o on another version I'd really think hard about it. It shouldn't be too much of an issue as long as you remove the ubuntu openoffice packages first.01:36
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superman123<LeeJunFan> How do I install the beryl-plugins-unsupported?01:38
pollyoWhat does BREAK Install mean in Adept?01:38
LeeJunFansuperman123: should be able to find them in adept, or sudo apt-get install beryl-plugins-unsupported01:38
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s-tonedLeeJunFan: I guessed so...01:39
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superman123thanks01:41
divansantanaHey guys :)01:42
divansantanaDoes anyone know if I would like to request a new package to be packaged for ubuntu  where do I go? Who do i email etc?01:42
divansantanaFor eg, backuppc is 2.1.2 and version 3.0 is out since Jan 07 and wish I could apt-get install it in feisty :(01:43
divansantanaCan anyone let me know what I should do to make this request know etc?01:43
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mackymanDoes anyone know where I can get some help with mod_rewrite rules?01:44
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divansantanaanyone please?01:47
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TheSpunkyLobsterLeeJunFan: ok i have gpart installed and running, what command do i need to use to launch it?01:48
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divansantanaTry a dpkg -l gpart|grep bin01:49
pollyos-toned: It looks like adept has an update for openoffice (I'm using feisty not sure if that makes a difference)01:49
geggamhttp://www.workingwith.me.uk/articles/scripting/mod_rewrite mackyman01:49
divansantanaand then run that command with a "kdesu gpart" or "gksu gpart" something like that01:50
divansantanaDoes anyone know if I would like to request a new package to be packaged for ubuntu  where do I go? Who do i email etc?01:50
divansantanaFor eg, backuppc is 2.1.2 and version 3.0 is out since Jan 07 and wish I could apt-get install it in feisty :(01:50
divansantanaany ideas anyone please? :)01:50
sonoftheclayrafter i generate a key with gpg how do i find it's id?01:51
s-tonedpollyo: I'll try to purge everything (oo.o), prior to reinstalling again01:51
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mackymangeggam: thanks... but.. well, I have tried those already...01:51
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geggamdivansantana, email the maintainer01:52
TheSpunkyLobsterok tried that divansantana, but i get an error saying open(/hda1): No Such file or directory01:53
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: I think sudo gpart /dev/hda is what you want to run.01:55
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TheSpunkyLobsteryay that worked :)01:56
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TheSpunkyLobstersays begin scan now :)01:56
TheSpunkyLobsterjust need to sit and wait now i guess heh01:57
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romkek#ubuntu01:58
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: yeah, once it finds the partitions it should give you starting/ending sectors, then with fdisk -u /dev/hda you create the partitions using the start and end sectors it gives you. It may find some that don't make sense, just disregard those.01:59
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TheSpunkyLobsterok mate thanks01:59
pollyoAnyone know what BREAK (install) means in Adept?01:59
TheSpunkyLobsteri'll just wait this out and see what happens :)01:59
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TheSpunkyLobstermore than likely i'll report back my confusion when it coems to the fdisk part in a bit :)02:00
nosrednaekimhello, apt is starting every morning, running an update of my package lists..i'm on dial up, and this really bugs me...how do I disable that?02:00
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: gpart -W /dev/hda /dev/hda will automatically write the partition tables for you but it's fairly risky because unless you've either zeroed your entire HD or only ever partitioned it one time it will likely find pieces of old partitions.02:00
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TheSpunkyLobsterok mate02:01
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TheSpunkyLobsterthis drive had kubuntu/xp on it, but i can't remember how many reinstalls i did in the begining lol02:01
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mackymanpollyo: That means that you have requested a install of the package, and another package is in conflict with it, so it can't be installed due to the conflict02:02
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pollyoBRB02:06
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Jucatonosrednaekim: are you on Edgy or on Feisty?02:09
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nosrednaekimEdgy02:10
nosrednaekimJucato: Edgy02:10
Jucatonosrednaekim: ah ok... Feisty's Adept has a GUI for that setting (when/if adept checks for updates02:10
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Jucatolet me see which file it modifies02:11
nosrednaekimthanks...02:11
Jucatofound it02:12
Jucatonosrednaekim: in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ the file is 15adept-periodic-update02:12
nosrednaekimok...02:12
nosrednaekimthank you02:13
Jucatonosrednaekim: the first line says APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1";02:13
Jucatochange that 1 to 002:13
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nosrednaekimok02:13
nosrednaekimOk...well see if that works... thanks02:14
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pollyoHello02:21
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pollyoAnyone know how to make photos available on my webpage?  do I put some type of link in a directory or something like that?02:23
|Quest|I'll be delighted if you join my channel #thelinux ! I need good ops. healthy discussions.  what ever you do, just be permanent user. keep it joined.    Every one is invited :)02:23
|Quest|#thelinux        thanks02:23
pollyoIn addition can I password protect it on the webpage?02:23
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nosrednaekimpollyo: make photos available?02:23
pollyonosrednaekim: Yes.  Pictures that I download from my digital camera.02:24
pollyonosrednaekim: I think it puts them in specific directories.02:24
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nosrednaekimpollyo just link to them..02:24
pollyonosrednaekim: I setup a dyndns address and when you go to it the webserver shows a directory.02:24
nosrednaekimpollyo: ok....02:25
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nosrednaekimI can get to them by navigateing i my browser to the directory02:25
nosrednaekim*in02:25
TheSpunkyLobsterLeeJunFan: the scan has now finished... should it have detected the xp partition as well?02:26
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: probably, but it's possible if your partition table got damaged somehow than so did the first part of the XP partition that it would have detected.02:27
TheSpunkyLobsterok02:27
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TheSpunkyLobsterit brought up 4 paritions, 2 of which have no info for them02:27
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: you can assume that your XP partition started on 1, and ended on the sector just before the extended partition.02:27
TheSpunkyLobsterand size of 0mb02:27
TheSpunkyLobsterok, the other two were an ext2 and swap partition02:28
pollyoAnyone know where my index file would be for my homepage?02:28
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: likely you're HD was partitioned as hda1=XP, either FAT or NTFS?, hda2=extended partition which was the entire remaining part of your HD, hda5 - whatever would be inside the hda202:29
TheSpunkyLobsterntfs yes, and that sounds about right on what things were set up as :)02:29
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nosrednaekimpollyo: index file? it should be in the top level directory02:29
pollyonosrednaekim: Ok.  Thank you.02:29
TheSpunkyLobsterLeeJunFan: can you guide me through how to rebuild this with the fdisk command please?02:30
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: use pastebin to paste your results from gpart02:30
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LeeJunFan!paste | TheSpunkyLobster02:30
ubotuTheSpunkyLobster: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:30
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TheSpunkyLobsterok02:31
solveigHi zusammen02:31
solveigJemand da der mir evtl bzgl. meiner USB Maus von Logitech weiterhelfen kann?02:31
TheSpunkyLobsterwill just need to go get rehooked back up to the cable lan in the other room as i couldn't get the wifi to work heh02:31
N0Lif3My laptop has 4 multimedia buttons outside of it. In Windows, they would launch IE or Outlook, but here in Kubuntu they do nothing! I tried to use the keys as shortcuts of my apps, but no go. How do I map these keys?02:31
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nosrednaekimN0Lif3: get "klineakd"02:32
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solveigSomebody here who can help me with my usb mouse from logitech, which doesn't work?02:32
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N0Lif3nosrednaekim: thanks02:32
solveigHmm02:33
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TheSpunkyLobsterLeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1504002:34
nosrednaekimsolveig: those things ussually "just work"02:34
solveig?02:34
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: okay. Well. the first thing you want to do is create a new partition, n - for type I'm not sure exactly which to use for NTFS, I'm not really familar with ntfs, I avoid it. It's either 7,86 or 87.02:34
solveigIt doesnt work, thats the problem02:34
Gavinhello everyone02:35
nosrednaekimsolveig: although you shouldn't have to do this... did you log out and log back in? restrt the X server?02:35
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: start sector will be 1, end sector will be 105145424 I think. Good thing is that we don't really have danger of damaging at this point the MBR and Part tables are already gone, so if we get something wrong it's just not going to work right and we can try again.02:36
TheSpunkyLobsterso i'd use command fdisk -u /dev/hda02:36
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: yeah.02:36
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solveiglog out and log back in doesnt help... what are u meaning with "restrt the x server" ?02:37
TheSpunkyLobsterhmmm says unable to open /dev/hda02:37
sonoftheclayr!gpg02:37
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts02:37
TheSpunkyLobsteroh do i need to sudo?02:38
TheSpunkyLobsteryes i do lol02:38
nosrednaekimsolveig: once you log out..do a "ctrl+alt+backspce"02:38
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TheSpunkyLobsterok i'm at the prompt for fdisk nw02:38
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: n02:39
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jeff_hi, all02:40
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GavinIs anybody able to help a newbie to Linux install Kubuntu? I'm having trouble getting 6.10 to start X-Windows (No Display Detected)02:40
Mena!kfontinst02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kfontinst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: hrm, are you sure your linux was on an extended partition? ie - hda5?02:41
TheSpunkyLobsterhonestly no :)02:41
jeff_This is rather noobish and I'm happy to get a place to look for the answer, rather than a straight-up answer.  I'm looking for a little app that will sit in my system tray and give me a visual representation (bar graph, changing colors, etc) of my CPU load (and possibly other stuff like memory, etc.)02:41
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TheSpunkyLobsteri'm still a mostly linux newbie so it would have been where the installer wanted to put it02:41
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: gpart says primary, but I think that's just it's guess. if it is extended we probably have to leave another sector free at the end of the NTFS partition.02:41
jeff_And preferably something that's KDE, rather than something like gkrellm02:42
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[GuS] Hello02:42
TheSpunkyLobsteri did a standard install of xp, then used the livecd to install kubuntu using if i remember correctly, largest free space02:42
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TheSpunkyLobsteroh and split the partition off first maybe with a partioner in widows, but i'm not 100% sure02:43
treqhello, i am using firefox plugin for mplayer, and when i try to view a clip it is getting stuck on 'getting playlist..', tried on more than one website02:43
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: well, lets try recovering your linux first, we'll come back to the NTFS after we get your config info from the linux stuff.02:44
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: so back in fdisk where are you at now?02:44
TheSpunkyLobsterok sound slike a plan :)02:44
TheSpunkyLobsterat the first prompt, it says Command: (m for help):02:45
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: okay, hit n for new, primary, type=83, start sector=105145425 end sector=22913508802:46
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pascuttihi. Does anyone know where to get more ktouch lectures?02:46
_Neilyou can tell its new kernel day02:46
_Neilthe repos. is dying02:46
_Neilor is that just me?02:47
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TheSpunkyLobsterprimary partition 1-4?02:47
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: 1 for now - we may have to redo it later, but for now we just want to get to mount that so we can look at your fstab.02:47
TheSpunkyLobsterpartition 1 is already defined delete it before readding02:48
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: did you already to the ntfs one before?02:48
TheSpunkyLobsternope i've not done anything yet02:48
TheSpunkyLobstercould it be from the livecd?02:49
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: hrm, maybe we better get a list of partitions on there first, something isn't right. ctrl-c and quit fdisk, then fdisk -u -l and pastebin that too.02:49
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TheSpunkyLobsterok onesec brb02:50
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: btw - after this is all done, fdisk -l -u > [filename]  and save it to a flash drive or something :) Then if your partition info gets fragged again it's easy to recreate, you can also use dd to save it and restore it, but I like having something more intelligable to look at.02:53
TheSpunkyLobsterhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1504402:53
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: are you on a compaq?02:54
aneeshi i want to start www in ubuntu...anybody help me plz02:54
TheSpunkyLobsternope running the kubuntu live cd on a samsung laptop02:54
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luc_hi, i have feisty. in kdm > remote login > choose from list a pick some workstation and nothing happend. Ok kdm has been restarted. That's all02:55
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: okay, don't know if that's a legit partition or not. hrm. Owell, back to fdisk -u /dev/hda, we'll create (n) a new linux (type 83) on partition 2 with start sector=105145425 end sector=22913508802:55
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: when that's done w to write the partition to disk02:56
chellhello02:56
chellI need your help02:56
chelli'm a recent KDE convert so please bear with me even if this is a stupid question:02:56
luc_How can i setup remote login to remote workstation.On the remote side everything ok. I tested from other pc and works very well02:56
LeeJunFananees: what do you mean start www? you mean start a web-server or a browser?02:57
chellAs you probably know, there is a nickserv on this irc02:57
sonoftheclayrchell: don't be afraid to ask :)02:57
chellI've got my nick registered and in Kontact there's an option where it asks me for a service and a password02:57
chellwhat do I put in as service to automatically identify myself02:57
TheSpunkyLobsterok done that02:57
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: okay, sudo mkdir -p /media/hda2 && sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/hda202:58
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: if mount doesn't complain and nothing get's printed to the screen when you run that - that's good. :)02:58
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TheSpunkyLobsterno errors :)02:59
chellI think I've figured it out02:59
chelllemme test02:59
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JuJuBeeMy users and groups mangement module seems to be broken.  How can I reinstall it?03:00
chellcool03:00
chellI've figured out how to do it!03:00
cskjhi can anyone suggest a good p2p application i should use with kubuntu 6.10??03:00
TheSpunkyLobsterok weirdly enough that looks likes files from an install not the last one if that helps03:00
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: okay, see if you can 'cat /media/hda2/etc/fstab'03:00
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sonoftheclayrcskj: frostwire03:00
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: so you see the files?03:01
pollyoAnyone know how to activate public_html in apache2?03:01
TheSpunkyLobsteri just looked through the konqueror03:01
chellI'm starting to like KDE03:01
chijinpollyo: just make a dir named public_html in your home folder03:01
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: okay, lets pastebin the /media/hda2/etc/fstab03:01
cskjok03:01
pollyochijin: Do I have to change a conf file?03:01
chijinpollyo: nope03:01
pollyochijin: Ok.  Do I have to give it any specific permissions?03:02
cskjcan i find that in adept sonoftheclay?03:02
chijinpollyo: i don't think so03:02
TheSpunkyLobsterok mate03:02
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pollyochijin: Do you know what the default file would be?03:03
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pollyochijin: index.html or something like that?03:03
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JuJuBeepollyo : chmod o+rx ~/public_html03:04
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JuJuBeethen index.html or index.php will be found03:04
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chijinpollyo: index.html will do fine. you don't need any index file though as the directory listing is on by default03:04
JuJuBeeetc.03:04
ubuntuhi, just running kubuntu 7.04 beta live cd and needing help with the install03:04
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pollyoJuJuBee: Do I use sudo for that?03:05
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: the good news is we know we can get to the linux stuff, I'm a bit concerned about recovering the NTFS, due to the fact it says there's a compaq partition in there I don't know what or how much of the beginning sectors of the HD got corrupted.03:05
JuJuBeenot necessary03:05
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pollyoJuJuBee: Ok thank you.03:05
JuJuBeenp03:05
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simarillionHi since I updated this morning I got error message kernel panic03:06
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simarillioncan somebody help me?03:06
newuser_kubuntuthe setup wizard hangs on my comp at step 4 (partitioning) it shows "how do you want to partition" and then nothing more, but high hdd activity since a few mins03:07
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JuJuBeepollyo : how did you make out?03:07
pollyoJuJuBee: error03:08
TheSpunkyLobsterjust tried to find the fstab and theres nothing there03:08
JuJuBeeWhat is the error?03:08
pollyoJuJuBee: Not with the chmod03:08
pollyoJuJuBee:  The requested URL /~pollyo was not found on this server.03:08
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: did you finish your installation of kubuntu? and did you reboot into it at all before this?03:08
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pollyoJuJuBee: Userdir is not required anywhere in the apache2.conf?03:09
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JuJuBeepollyo ; what are the perms on  your user folder ~03:09
pollyoJuJuBee: I saw it noted on a website and did not see it in the conf03:09
aneessorry LeeJunFan was already done... actually the path is changed in ubuntu...03:09
aneesLeeJunFan: thanx again for your support03:10
JuJuBeepollyo : by default, public_html folders will be read fine unless you changed the conf files.03:10
aneesactually i was trying to start a webserver03:10
pollyoJuJuBee: I am not really good good with permissions.  How do I determine that?03:10
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pollyoJuJuBee: if I ls -l03:10
pollyoJuJuBee: It has permission information 119 pollyo 12288 date time pollyo03:11
TheSpunkyLobsterLeeJunFan: This installation had been up for about 6-8 weeks prior to today03:11
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TheSpunkyLobsterbut the parition we just mounted was not the one that was there before... it was one from an older installation03:12
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JuJuBeeI don't understand?  can't make a 9 ?  drwxr-xr-x  is what we are looking for on /home/pollyo/public_html03:12
pollyoJuJuBeedrwxr-xr-x   2 pollyo pollyo       4096 2007-04-11 09:07 public_html03:13
JuJuBeeThe middle r-x is not important.03:13
JuJuBeeK03:13
JuJuBeewhat about /home/pollyo ?03:13
pollyoJuJuBee: drwxr-xr-x 119 pollyo pollyo 12288 2007-04-11 08:41 pollyo03:14
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pollyoJuJuBee: Do I need anything in the directory?03:15
pollyoJuJuBee: Or would it simply show an empty directory?03:15
pollyoJuJuBee: Rather then the error03:15
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: hrm, doesn't look good. My guess is that your new install AND your NTFS were both in the first portion of the HD where gpart didn't find anything.03:15
JuJuBeeHave you verified that apache is running?03:15
TheSpunkyLobsterthat sounds typical for me lol03:16
JuJuBeeIf the directory existed, then it would show a listing if no index file was found (or empty if no files in it).03:16
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: there's really no way to do much to save it at this point :(03:16
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pollyoJuJuBee: pollyo.gotdns.com shows a webpage would it say apache2 or just show the information?03:16
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pollyoJuJuBee: Actually:   Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.1 Server at pollyo.gotdns.com Port 8003:16
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TheSpunkyLobsterso i'm pretty screwed then heh03:17
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: so it seems.03:17
JuJuBeeThat means appache is running.03:17
TheSpunkyLobsterany way of trying to get the data off the parition we didn't find?03:18
TheSpunkyLobsterand ironically, i'm sure i remember having this same problem with the parition we just found, no os found etc03:18
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: you could try gpart -f /dev/hda03:18
solveigback again03:19
pollyoJuJuBee: Any ideas why no public_html access?03:19
solveignice, aber ctrl + alt + backspace NOTHING doenst work03:19
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: it may be that gpart skipped over those because it saw that compaq partition, so it didn't scan inside it.03:19
solveigat the beginning the logitech mouse does work for a few minutes, but then it doesnt work... why?03:19
pollyoJuJuBee: Does it default to the following format: http://pollyo.gotdns.com/~pollyo03:19
TheSpunkyLobsterok will try that now then :)03:20
pollyomaybe I need to try /www/pollyo?03:20
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: probably best to sudo umount /media/hda2  too03:20
JuJuBeehave a look at /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf03:20
JuJuBeeNo, should be pollyo.gotdns.com/~pollyo03:20
JuJuBeethat points to your public_html folder.03:20
TheSpunkyLobsterok unmounted and running scan again with -f03:21
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TheSpunkyLobsterwill now wait for ages again hehe03:22
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compilerwriterWhat are you waiting for ages on the supnkylobster?03:22
solveigsomebody there who can help me?03:22
JuJuBeepollyo : do you have a userdir.conf in mods-enabled ?03:22
pollyoJuJuBee: That file is not in there.03:22
compilerwritersoveig perhaps what do you need03:22
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dinosaur-rushi03:23
JuJuBeeThat is the problem then.03:23
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: okay, that's going to take a lot longer. So if I'm not around at the time it's done why don't you /msg me your e-mail addy, I'll mail you back with my contact info so we can get back in touch - in case there isn't someone else who can help you later.03:23
solveigMy Logitech mouse doesnt work... at the beginning when the pc starts, it works, but after a few minutes I can only use the touchpad @ compilerwriter03:23
JuJuBeeYou have no config file telling apache how/where to load user web space from.03:23
dinosaur-rusis there support for "Mustek BearPaw 2400TA Plus" scanner in Kubuntu's sane?03:23
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pollyoJuJuBee: It is in the available directory03:23
JuJuBeewhat is in /etc/apache2 ?03:23
pollyoJuJuBee: Should I just copy it to the other directory?03:24
JuJuBee?03:24
compilerwriterSoveig are you on a laptop or do you have a tablet mouse combination?03:24
Mezgah, can someone tell me how to get my task list to only show the tasks from the current workspace... ? it's annoying me that it's showing from all03:24
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pollyoJuJuBee: I have a /etc/apache2/mods-available/ and userdir.conf is there.03:24
compilerwritersoveig do you know the model of rodent you have?03:24
solveigcompilerwriter I am on a laptop03:25
solveigrodent?03:25
JuJuBeepollyo : but not in mods-enabled?03:25
pollyoJuJuBee: Perhaps I need to copy it to mods-enabled?03:25
compilerwritersoveig a mouse is a rodent03:25
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solveigYeah, wait03:25
compilerwritermice, rats, moles, voles all are rodents solveig.03:25
JuJuBeepollyo : read the README file  in /etc/apache2 , it tells how to load a module.03:25
solveigLogitech RX60003:25
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compilerwriterall from the family rodentia biologically.03:26
pollyoJuJuBee:  No readme.  I'll have to see if there is a doc file package in adept.03:26
jack_hi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters the best site to check for hardware compatibility of a printer?03:26
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compilerwriterLet me guess it is usb connected solveig?03:26
solveigYeah, it is03:26
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compilerwriterBut then somewhere during the loading of the os the touchpad takes over?03:27
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Ash-Foxpollyo, sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/file /etc/apache2/mods_enabled03:28
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solveigI am working and then the mouse doesnt work, only the touchpad03:28
JuJuBeeThe files in mods-enabled are just symlinks to the files in mods-available.03:28
JuJuBeeJust create a symlink to the file you wish to use03:28
Ash-FoxHonestly, I find the whole mods-availble, mods-enabled thing stupid.03:28
Ash-FoxEach mod should have it's own package03:28
pollyoJuJuBee: I'm 30 days into using linux.  How does one create a symlink?03:29
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compilerwritersoveig How quickly does it quit working?03:29
Ash-Foxln -s03:29
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solveigwhen it works, then it works without problems03:29
compilerwritersolveig How quickly does it quit working03:30
JuJuBeepollyo : cd /etc/apache2/mods-enabled03:30
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solveigwhat how quickly?03:30
solveigAh03:30
pollyoJuJuBee: I'm there.03:31
solveigfrom a second to another03:31
JuJuBeepollyo : sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.conf userdir.conf03:31
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compilerwritersolveig Does the mouse work for a few seconds and then the computer reverts to the touchpad or does it work for a few minutes and then go to the touchpad?03:31
JuJuBeepollyo : also sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.load userdir.load03:31
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solveigIts different how long the mouse works... few minutes most03:32
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Neil-What is the program that gives the big big icons in a little bar at the bottom of the screen? Anyone know?#03:32
pollyoJuJuBee: Ok03:32
JuJuBeepollyo : when done, you need to restart apache.03:32
compilerwriterHave you tried booting up the machine without the mouse connected and then connecting it after all the booting has been done?03:32
JuJuBeesudo apache2ctl restart03:32
pollyoJuJuBee: ok03:33
compilerwritersolveig see question a few lines up.03:33
solveigHmm no, I think so not03:33
solveigShould I?03:33
compilerwritersolveig:  I think that you have been lucky in that Kubuntu handles your touchpad correctly03:33
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pollyoJuJuBee: Yes!  Thank you.03:34
compilerwritersolveig or in your case pehaps unlucky.03:34
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pollyoJuJuBee: One or two qestions.  ln is a link command?  -s does what?03:34
JuJuBeeNo problem.  I am fairly new to linux as well and understand your frustrations.03:34
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newuser_kubuntuhow much space do you recommend for kubuntu? is 4.5 GB enough?03:34
CheapSuiton Feisty, anybody getting HARD FREEZES starting k9copy?03:34
JuJuBeeYes, ln is command -s make a symbolic link.03:34
compilerwritersolveig I think what might be happening is the laptop is recognizing both the mouse and the touchpad at boot and then has conflict of interest at some point as to which to take input from.03:34
solveigSo I should boot now without the mouse and then log it on and ook what will happen?03:34
JuJuBeeman ln for more info03:35
pollyoJuJuBee: I see I have a man page for it.03:35
solveigHmmm and how to solve this?03:35
pollyoJuJuBee: Thank you again.03:35
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JuJuBeenp03:35
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compilerwriterSolveig that may solve the problem.  Let the thing boot up totally, and then let it recognize your mouse as the last input method that it was connected to.03:35
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solveigOkay, I will try this out now03:36
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compilerwriterThe other thing I could think of trying is to find out which module is responsible for touchpad support in ubuntu and stopping that process.  You would then be able to use the mouse, but not the touchpad.03:36
liamhi ive got a quick question03:36
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liamive been trying to get a creative zen to work on kubuntu03:36
pollyoJuJuBee: Do you know where I would stick the following line:        UserDir disable03:37
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solveigI will try and turn back to tell @ compilerwriter03:37
liamlooked for drivers and theres 2 scripts i need apparently03:37
liamwhy dont they just come with amarok?03:37
CarinArrcompilerwriter: touchpads often use the synaptics driver03:37
pollyoJuJuBee: Would I put that in the userdir.conf03:37
JuJuBeeNot sure what it means...03:37
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pollyoJuJuBee: from what I understand it disables the ~root03:37
compilerwriterCarinArr: thanks for the input.  Do I seem to be making sense in my advice?03:38
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pollyoJuJuBee: Might not be an issue.03:38
bobdhicksNewbie needs help. I tried following information to update to 7.04. It did not succeed. Froze and could not do something. I tried to use Adept Manager but it now gives me "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application03:38
bobdhicksbefore using this one." I don't have any running. Rebooted twice. Did no good. Any suggestions?03:38
JuJuBeeThat should already tbe taken care of in userdir.conf03:38
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CarinArrcompilerwriter: heh, i hadn't been paying attention properly, i though you were the one having problems;)03:38
pollyoJuJuBee: Ok03:38
JuJuBeeUserDir disabled root03:38
CarinArrwhat is the problem? the mouse stops working?03:38
compilerwritercarinArr That is correct.03:39
liamcan anyone answer my question?03:39
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compilerwriterSolveig is running right along, his usb wireless rodent, connected at bootup.  Then it stops working and he must use his laptops touchpad.03:39
pollyoJuJuBee: I see it is already in it.03:39
compilerwritercarinArr03:39
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pollyoOk great.03:39
moby_pythonhas anybody here had thier wireless card return mode 802.11 D-S ?03:40
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solveigSo03:40
CarinArrsolveig is a he?;)03:40
solveigno oO03:40
solveiga she!03:40
CarinArrheh thought not03:40
liamwhy cant anyone answer my question/03:40
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solveigcompilerwriter, I did like you told me, now I am waiting how long the mouse will work03:41
compilerwriterSorry, I am just using the English pronoun one uses when one does not know.03:41
CarinArranyhow, i suppose you can try to disable the touchpad, might even do that in bios andcheck if it makes a difference03:41
moby_pythonliam did you ask it?03:41
liamyes03:41
moby_pythonyou could try again, I didn't see it.03:41
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liami asked why doesnt amarok come complete with all the required scripts03:42
Cosmo_what directory is the linux kernel in?03:42
CarinArrliam: while asking the same question over and over and over is pretty annoying, so is assuming that everyone will scroll up and find it;)03:42
crazy_busI burned a dvd with k3b.  However k3b tried to burn at x12.5 speed.  The speed it actual burned at was more 4x to 8.5x but I was wondering if all the data on the dvd would be correct?03:42
Ash-Foxliam, don't know what you're talking about. Amarok works fine for me.03:42
moby_pythonyou mean codecs?03:42
fdovingCosmo_: the compiled binary images are in /boot/03:42
liamthe problem is it wont recognise my creative zen03:42
CarinArrcrazy_bus: can't see why not.. if you want to make sure you can set it to verify the data once written03:42
moby_pythonliam, I dont care for amorak either.03:42
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Ash-Foxliam, I think you need to install the appropriate kioslaves for the support.03:43
moby_pythonliam, see I don't even know what creative zen is, is that a sound card?03:43
liamwhen i looked this up it said i needed to install 2 other things (libusb and something else)'03:43
compilerwritersolveig:  is the rodent still scrambling about properly?03:43
crazy_busI didn't set it at the start.  Is there anyway to verify once its finished?03:43
liamits an mp3 player sorry03:43
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CarinArrliam: can you access the zen if you mount it separately?03:43
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Ash-Foxash-fox@Trajan:~$ apt-cache search zen |grep -i creative03:43
Ash-Foxkzenexplorer - manage tracks and playlists on Creative Labs Nomad Jukeboxes03:43
Ash-Foxash-fox@Trajan:~$03:43
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compilerwritercarinarr has given me some other suggestions solveig if this doesn't seem to get the job done.03:44
liamwhen its plugged in its not even recognised03:44
liamso i cant mount it03:44
Ash-Foxliam, I found kzenexplorer in the repositories.03:44
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Ash-Fox!kzenexplorer03:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kzenexplorer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:44
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liamthankyou which repositories03:44
draycoshi. I just updateed my dapper drake installation, and I no longer get X. I can't load the 'nvidia' driver. Please help?03:44
compilerwritercarinarr is anything but touchpad support dependent upon the synaptics driver?03:45
CarinArrliam: if you can't mount it manually there's no reason why amarok would be able to..03:45
Ash-Foxliam, I have universe, multiverse, restricted and main enabled here.03:45
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NSCAD_Nathananyone know a good information site on archival media longevity?03:45
liamok ill try that03:45
Ash-FoxCarinArr, it needs the kio_slave to support it03:45
CarinArrcompilerwriter: not sure, i don't think so but i wouldn't bet my life on it;)03:45
draycosanyone?03:45
liamthis will sound like a noob rant, but users having to do this is what holds linux back....sorry03:45
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solveigThe mouse is still working ;)03:46
Ash-Foxcompilerwriter, like ipodslave for ipods03:46
CarinArri take it that was for me;)03:46
geggamliam ... go play your media on Vista then come back and tell us what is wrong with linux03:46
NSCAD_NathanLiam - are you having trouble using a creative zen in Amarok?03:47
liami probably could03:47
Ash-Foxliam, this is what happens when you don't buy devices that don't use known standards.03:47
solveigOkay :-((03:47
solveigdoesnt work03:47
chelllol, how do I take the "away" status on me away03:47
newuser_kubuntuneed help installing, big trouble with partitions. I think im going to cancel this and hoping my windows still works. it just does not resize it03:47
CarinArrchell: normally just /away03:47
chellnewuser_kubuntu, try the alternate03:47
chellCarinArr, doesn't work03:47
liamok creative is a fairly well recognised company and ppl with ipods have the same trouble03:47
CarinArrchell: /back ?;)03:47
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liamyes nathan i am sorry03:47
chellokay03:47
solveigcompilerwriter - doesnt work :(03:47
chellI had tried /re03:48
Ash-Foxnewuser_kubuntu, you're going to ruin your system if you cancel in the middle of partitioning.03:48
NSCAD_NathanI have my Zen working great03:48
compilerwriterash-fox Are you telling me it is like ipodslave for ipos and that touchpads are all it does?03:48
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NSCAD_NathanAmarok even uploads album art03:48
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liammine wont recognise it03:48
compilerwriterok solveig perhaps if you get into your bios and disable the touchpad there.03:48
NSCAD_NathanAre you using Edgy or Feisty?03:48
liamim in kubuntu03:48
liamedgy03:48
newuser_kubuntuash-fox: thx for warning, but it does not resize!03:48
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Ash-Foxcompilerwriter, eh? ipodslave lets you drag and drop mp3s onto the kioslave to upload them03:48
NSCAD_NathanIt's automatically ready to go in Feisty03:48
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NSCAD_NathanI was having the same problem in Edgy03:48
newuser_kubuntuusing feisty03:48
solveigcompilerwriter: hmmm I dont know much about Bios03:49
NSCAD_NathanFeisty works easy peasy03:49
Ash-Foxnewuser_kubuntu, probably your partition is too full.03:49
liamhmm so i should just upgrade to feisty03:49
NSCAD_NathanI think it's the version of Amarok which is the issue03:49
NSCAD_Nathanif you compile the newest version from scratch with certain libs enabled, it will work, but Feisty has already doen the leg work03:49
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Ash-FoxYou can use a later version of Amarok if you use the 'latest' kubuntu repositories.. let me get the lines03:49
CarinArrsudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:49
CarinArrer wrong window;)03:49
liamok how do i upgrade to fiesty03:50
newuser_kubuntui have 12 GB free and want to make it 6 gb smaller. getting warning about file system reporting x free clusters while there are y03:50
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newuser_kubuntui klick edit partition03:50
moby_pythonliam, at the top of the page03:50
savetheWorldnewuser_kubuntu: time to run fsck on that file system03:50
Ash-Foxeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest edgy main03:50
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chellnewuser_kubuntu, you might want to try the gparted live cd03:50
compilerwriterWell solveig I have been told that it is probably the synaptics drive in Kubuntu that is running your touchpad.  If you disabled it you may still have mouse function, but I am not sure if anything else is dependent upon that driver.03:50
Ash-Foxdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest edgy main <- you can get the latest Amarok with this repository.03:50
chellthat worked for me when I couldn't resize using kubuntu cds03:50
liammy fault sorry03:50
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liami should have seen that03:51
NSCAD_NathanTry Ash-Fox's suggestion first03:51
newuser_kubuntuWHEY, now the installer went down. ok, going to run gtparted from another disk03:51
NSCAD_Nathanmaybe that will work03:51
Ash-FoxAssuming you use edgy.03:51
chellhttp://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php03:51
compilerwritersolveig it could be that you would be cutting the tip off your nose to spiet your face taking that approach.03:51
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newuser_kubuntuis 5 GB enough for kubuntu?03:51
moby_pythonliam, it takes a bit to do the 'upgrade'03:51
Ash-Foxnewuser_kubuntu, vmware recommends 8GB for kubuntu.03:51
NSCAD_NathanBut updating to Fiesty is pretty painless - it's still beta and has some bugs though03:51
moby_pythonliam, you pretty much d/load the whole iso.03:52
compilerwritersolveig do you know how to get into your bios?03:52
solveigYeah, sure03:52
liamill try this thax guys , ill try updating amarok first03:52
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NSCAD_NathanLiam - I think there is a version upgrade tool, check out the kubuntu website for info03:52
newuser_kubuntuash-fox, what do YOU recomment (do not have lots of space) do you think 5 GB will be enough for testing (i will not have a big /home)03:52
NSCAD_Nathanthey are asking for beta testers :)03:52
liamok will do thanks03:52
chellbtw: as a recent gnome -> kde convert, I just have to say: KDE is *so* much better (especially amarok)03:52
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geggamliam ... the linux support u get is from good willed people who want to help... telling them what they are supporting is junk inst a very good motivator03:53
compilerwriterok, solveig, bios is usually a common sense thing.  You always have the option of exiting without saving the changes.03:53
geggambest of luck on the amorak issue03:53
Ash-Foxnewuser_kubuntu, I think I can get kubuntu's default install in 2GB03:53
compilerwriterI am thinking, solveig, that is the safest bet.03:53
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newuser_kubuntuok, so 5 GB should be fine. 1 more gb for swap is enough with 512 mb RAM?03:53
moby_pythonI heard gnome is faster than kde, especially on fiesty03:53
NSCAD_NathanSo with all these geeks in one room - can anyone tell me the average lifespan of a shelved and moisture sealed HDD?03:53
Ash-Foxnewuser_kubuntu, that's fine03:53
solveigYeah I know compilerwriter... I only dont know where to find the touchpad in bios03:53
chellI'm using feisty right now03:53
NSCAD_Nathanfirst one with a reputable answer ges a candy cane03:53
chelland KDE is just as fast03:54
chelland believe me, my machine is ancient03:54
geggamNSCAD_Nathan,  i have a ten year old operational drive03:54
geggamon the shelf it would be hard to tell03:54
CarinArrnewuser_kubuntu: you shouldn't need more swap than you have ram03:54
NSCAD_NathanI'm trying to find an archival solution for our students03:54
NSCAD_Nathanthey have HD film projects03:54
moby_pythonNSCAD, is it considered dead when it can no long hold the newest windows operating system?03:54
Ash-FoxCarinArr, 1GB of swap is usually the minimum in my opinion03:54
NSCAD_Nathanso a few hundred gigs of info03:54
geggamusb external drives for quick recovery... tape for disaster NSCAD_Nathan03:54
newuser_kubuntuok, will give it the gig just in case, making it smaller wont be a problem. thx for the help03:54
compilerwritersolveig do you know the vendor and version of your bios?03:55
liamgeggam, please correct yourself, as at no point did i call this software junk, im greatfull for the help i recieve, and although i struggle with linux i do prefer it to windows03:55
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CarinArrAsh-Fox: if you have more swap than ram you're setting yourself up for some mad swapping03:55
NSCAD_Nathangeggam - it's something that doesn't need to accessed often03:55
Ash-FoxCarinArr, maybe if it were windows.03:55
solveigNo, I dont know @ compilerwriter03:55
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chellI set my swap to = RAM * 203:55
geggamtape has been drowned in floods and had data recovered NSCAD_Nathan03:55
NSCAD_Nathanit's for archiving... and tape backup would pose too many problems for them to find a reader03:55
chellso I've got 1 GB here03:55
LeeJunFanif you use suspend to disk you might want 2x's the swap than you have RAM, but it's unlikely you'd ever need it.03:55
geggamits just slow as hell NSCAD_Nathan03:55
liamhowever it has to be said third party support and the technical knoweldge needed is what holds it back03:55
NSCAD_Nathansince they are graduating and going into the wide world03:55
NSCAD_NathanI thought a HDD in a Pelican case might give them at least 10 yrs of time03:56
compilerwritersolveig that then rules out my finding any specs on the net to have an idea how to help you.03:56
geggamshould NSCAD_Nathan .. drives in use average 5 years03:56
pollyoDo they have any firewall programs for linux that will let you know when a program is attempting to use a port and allow you to give it permission or not?03:56
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newuser_kubuntunscad_nathan keep multiple copies if its important. it will last a few years at least, and then you can cheaply copy it over do new disks03:56
Ash-FoxI generally have minimum 1GB swap, if I have more than 512MB ram, I add 512MB of physical RAM I have as the amout of swap space so I can put system into hybernation without a problem03:56
moby_pythonNSCAD, what about DVD-R 's ?03:57
geggamif u use DVR use verbatim03:57
NSCAD_Nathanmoby-Python - aren't DVD-Rs terrible for long term storage?03:57
solveigcompilerwriter, I will look now into the BIOS and look if I will find something03:57
NSCAD_Nathanthat was my impression03:57
compilerwritersorry solveig but I am out of ideas at this point.03:57
chellI'd use an external hard drive03:57
chellafter a few years you can copy the data to a new one03:57
moby_pythonNSCAD, I've never looked into it.03:57
geggamsolveig,  use the mouse on another machine...ensure it works03:58
compilerwritersoveig before you go what sort of laptop are you using03:58
chellor host the files online at streamload or so03:58
newuser_kubuntudvd wont work if you have 100 GB...03:58
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chellthey make regular backups etc I believe, so your data should be safe there03:58
solveigSure, the mouse is working all the time, at windows too03:58
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pollyoWhat is the lifetime of a pendrive?03:58
solveigI have a Toshiba Notebook03:58
NSCAD_NathanThey have from 150-300 GB to store :)03:58
NSCAD_NathanI think online might be a bit out of the question03:58
chellI've you've got 1 Gbit up lol03:58
chell*if you've ...03:58
moby_python300Gb is about 30 DVD - rs ?03:58
newuser_kubuntuWTF is this: "cat: /dev/hda: No such file or directory"03:58
geggamsda newuser_kubuntu  ?03:59
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Cosmo_I'm trying to install the VPN for my work but this is what it says when I try to install the software http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15047/03:59
compilerwritersolveig: my wife has a toshiba sattelite I may be attempting to solve my own future problem.03:59
solveig*g*03:59
NSCAD_NathanI've never had a HDD fail through regular use.  Which is not the same as saying I've never had one fail ;)  Usually they just get replaced... :/03:59
compilerwritergeggam do you have any other ideas?03:59
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CarinArri have a toshiba satellite pro, it works fine03:59
NSCAD_Nathanthis is a tricky one04:00
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NSCAD_Nathanand the mighty Google is failing me04:00
newuser_kubuntuWTF? why is my internal IDE drive sda and not hda?04:00
geggamserial ata newuser_kubuntu04:00
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geggamscsi emulation04:00
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geggamim not sure compilerwriter04:00
Ash-Foxnewuser_kubuntu, either sata drive or scsi04:00
compilerwritercarinarr how did you get the wireless chip to work on it?04:00
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CarinArrworked out of box04:00
geggami donthave the time to poke thatmuch04:00
CarinArroh.. as long as you flick the switch on the actual laptop:04:01
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CarinArr:) even04:01
newuser_kubuntui do not think i hava SATA, thats the thing. other distributions detect it as hda. maybe that is the cause for my trouble04:01
geggamsolveig,  check lsusb to see if the device is registered ... after that check lsmod to check for the appropriate module...04:01
compilerwriterI used my wifes sattelite to test out two live cd I had burned for friends and the only blasted problem I had with it was the wireless chip would no longer access my home network.04:02
geggami have to shower and worl04:02
geggamwork04:02
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CarinArrcompilerwriter: what model satellite?04:02
newuser_kubuntuwell, trying a different live cd, cu all04:02
compilerwriterThanks for the input geggam04:02
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chellwtf04:02
compilerwriterGoing to go check carinarr04:02
chellopen office impress doesn't support SVG!04:02
solveiggeggam how can I check lsusb?04:03
chellhow can I convert an SVG to PNG04:03
compilerwritercarinarr it is an M105-S101104:04
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CarinArrchell: does "convert" not do it?04:05
chellwhat is "convert"?04:05
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moby_pythonChell, I use inkscape and export bmp as a png04:05
chellI'm looking for a Qt based solution (KDE)04:06
CarinArrchell: it's an imagemagick tool04:06
sonoftheclayrchell: karbon1404:06
sonoftheclayr!karbon14 | chell04:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about karbon14 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:06
chellI'll try karbon1404:06
CarinArrcompilerwriter: i've a p100-465 so might not use same chipsets04:07
compilerwriterI am guessing not. carinarr04:07
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CarinArrtho i'm not sure it qualifies as a "laptop", given the size of it;)04:07
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compilerwritercarinarr: my wife about birthed an elephant when she saw ubuntu on her laptop.  There was not a snowballs chance in hell she was going to let me try the cat9 connection.04:08
chelllol04:08
chellsudo apt-get install karbon1404:08
chellit can't find it04:08
CarinArrlol04:08
chelluniverse is enabled04:08
sonoftheclayrchell: sudo apt-get install karbon04:08
savetheWorldcompilerwriter: cat9?04:08
chellI though the name was karbon14...04:09
compilerwritersavetheworld regular network cable04:09
sonoftheclayrchell: it is but the package name is karbon04:09
CarinArrcompilerwriter: she'd change her mind about ubuntu if you showed her beryl and the wobbly windows04:09
sonoftheclayr!info karbon04:09
ubotukarbon: a vector graphics application for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 942 kB, installed size 3260 kB04:09
Dumaheni need a virtual cd drive for my cd images what should i do ?04:09
sonoftheclayr!iso04:09
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.04:09
Dumahenthnx a lot04:10
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sonoftheclayrnp04:10
savetheWorldcompilerwriter: "regular"?? cat3, cat5, ... but cat9?04:10
compilerwriterI don't thing so carinarr.  She likes her computer the way it is.  She uses it for instant messaging, email, and surfing.04:10
compilerwritersavetheworld:  I may very well have gotten my numbers mixed up in the cabling.04:10
corbaxfr04:11
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corbaxfrench04:11
corbaxhere?04:11
savetheWorldah, whew. Thought I was falling off the trailing edge of tech for a moment...04:11
sonoftheclayr!fr | corbax04:11
ubotucorbax: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:11
corbaxlol thanks04:11
sonoftheclayrnp04:11
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don_jr__I just installed a program from apt, and it doesn't show up in any of my menues, how do I figure out how to run it? lol04:12
savetheWorldcompilerwriter: hmm - guess I am falling off the trailing edge... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_7_cable  :-)04:12
sonoftheclayrdon_jr__: type into konsole04:12
sonoftheclayrthe package name is the first thing to try04:13
compilerwritersavetheWorld I should have said cat5e04:14
savetheWorldthat like cat5 + cat4, right (= cat 9 :-)   )04:14
compilerwriterI swear I have heard someone talk about cat9 before, but who knows exactly what it was about and perhaps it was a joke.04:15
chell!info krita04:15
ubotukrita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 2542 kB, installed size 7932 kB04:15
savetheWorldmaybe cat9 is fiber optic... :)04:15
don_jr__sonoftheclayr I tried the package name, didn't work...not sure where to look now04:15
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solveigSooo back04:16
pollyodon_jr__: You could look in adept to see where it installed files and look for something in a bin directory04:16
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solveigIn BIOS USB Maus and touchpad had been enable... I have set the touchpad now to disable04:16
solveigWaiting how long the mouse will work04:16
solveigbut the next problem: the notebook dont turn off by shut down04:16
don_jr__pollyo I'll try that04:16
compilerwriterGlad you are back solveig.04:16
cskjhey can anyone tell me how i can install the latest version of java? i'm using kubuntu 6.10, n i am pretty new to it04:17
solveig(:04:17
compilerwriterI thought you had gotten upset with my little divergence into my own life.04:17
solveiglol no ;)04:17
compilerwriterdidn't work? solveig04:17
solveigWork!04:17
solveigI disabled the touchpad in BIOS04:18
solveigNo I am waiting how long the mouse will work04:18
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compilerwriterHopefully it will work for some length of time.04:18
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solveigYeah I hope so too04:18
pollyocskj: I think you can get it with apt-get but you might have to enable some repositories04:18
cskjyea?04:19
cskjok thanx...i'll try that04:19
cskjthat's in add programs right??04:19
pollyocskj: Do you have any version of java installed at this time?04:19
chellin impress, how do I set a specific png to be the background of a slide?04:19
pollyocskj: If you do not then you will have to use terminal to install it because you can not accept the license agreement through adept.04:20
cskjyea04:20
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cskji think i have 5 installed04:20
pollyocskj: Take a look in adept04:20
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pollyocskj K -> System -> Adept (If I recall correctly)04:21
cskjok04:21
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SchuenemannHey, Is it possible to export a .psd to .html using Krita?04:22
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myRM`Solveig:-(((04:23
myRM`SolveigMouse didnt work again04:23
pollyocskj: You could use a filter of java04:23
bobdhicksFollowing directions step by step online, I tried to upgrade to 7.04. Process failed. Closed the command window. Went to Adapt Manager which now gives me "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this04:23
bobdhicksone." Tried rebooting twice. Nothing changes notification. Any suggestions?04:23
jhutchinsWhy doesn't iwconfig display the key?04:24
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compilerwritermyrm'solveig so now we have the issue of a rodent crapping out on you after so long and not a conflict correct?04:24
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pollyobobdhicks: Maybe the adeptfix?04:25
pollyo!adeptfix04:25
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:25
compilerwritermyrm'solveig did you try the touchpad to make certain you had indeed disabled it?04:25
cskjok pollyo i've got 1.0.56-0ubuntu1 installed04:25
moby_pythonbobdhick did you try 'sudo apt-get install -f'04:25
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pollyocskj: Did you apply the "java" filter to see if there are any newer versions listed?04:25
solveigcompilerwriter yeah sure the touchpad didnt work04:25
solveigI had to reboot04:25
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compilerwriterwell curses solveig, I am not certain what to tell you.  The mouse has fresh batteries no?04:26
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solveigsure :(04:26
cskjyepp04:26
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cskjno newer versions listed04:27
solveigBy windows the mouse works without ANY problems...04:27
BluesKajok gents, what's the cli command for choosing the default browser ?...had it in my txtfile til the the kernel update crashed my system04:27
compilerwritercarinarr for some reason the mouse is crapping out on solveig it doesn't appear to be device conflict.04:27
solveighmm04:27
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javijust a question, is there any program which runs video and audio conversation for kubuntu04:28
don_jr__pollyo how do I use adept to find out where something was installed?04:28
compilerwritersolveig any chance you can use a PS2 mouse?04:28
pollyodon_jr__: Sure. It will tell you where all the files in the package were installed.04:28
don_jr__where will it show that?04:28
BluesKajdon_jr__, sudo apt-cache search04:28
compilerwritersolveig does the touchpad work for you at all times?04:29
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don_jr__BluesKaj I have installed the package already, now I"m trying to figure out how to run it, typing in the package name didn't do it04:29
pollyodon_jr__: Click on the package name and it will expand with information and have an uninstall and details options.04:29
solveigYeah, touchpad works all the time... I cnanot have a ps2 mouse on laptop04:29
javihello!04:29
rojanuHi ALL04:29
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stevethepiratehello04:29
pollyodon_jr__: Under details it should have installed files tab04:29
SchuenemannIs it possible to export a .psd to .html using Krita?04:29
don_jr__pollyo okay, thanks04:29
BluesKajdon_jr__, look in your system menu/home folder04:29
pollyodon_jr__: That will list the installed files.04:30
rojanuis there a site which lists hardwares that works under linux04:30
javidoes any one know whether there is a program which suport video and audio messenging04:30
blekoshello, i pluged in a usb HD, although I get the message "select action" and i choose open in new window nothing appears. P.S i didnt have any problem with the same HD in DDrake (now I have feisty fawn)04:30
stevethepiratepeople. my computer randomly restarts.. no error messages.. nothing04:30
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stevethepirateany ideas howto fix/ check -why- it does it04:30
Schuenemannwhen does it restart?04:30
stevethepiratelike random times04:30
sonoftheclayrblekos: what filesystem?04:30
solveigin the settings kubuntu tell me that I should search help bei "documentation" to solve the problem with the mouse oO@compilerwriter04:30
blekosntfs04:30
Schuenemannrestart everything? it boots again?04:30
stevethepirateya04:31
sonoftheclayrblekos: you have ntfs-3g installed?04:31
blekosyes04:31
stevethepirateas if i flipped the power switch04:31
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don_jr__hmmm, maybe this isn't what I wanted...all the installed files went to /usr/share/ and /usr/share/docs/04:31
bobdhicksubotu: thanks. It worked.04:31
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Schuenemannwhen I've had problems llike that, it was always hardware problems04:31
Schuenemannloosy cable, dirty, etc04:31
blekosi am running in dual boot, and can read/write in windows partitions without any prob04:31
ackbahrHi! I'm trying to turn WMA files into MP3 (not OGG, portable player not compatible) and I was told XMMS could help; but I can't find the mp3 output pluggin it's supposed to have! Could anyone help? Thanks!04:31
stevethepirateLike how can i check what the problem is?04:31
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rojanu is there a site which lists hardwares that works under linux04:32
javihello again, does any one know whether there is a program which suport video and audio messenging04:32
solveigand again no mouse04:32
SchuenemannI would open the computer and check if there's any loose cable or dirty parts04:32
solveigits getting on my nervers04:32
stevethepirateSchuenemann: none.. did that alrady..04:32
moby_pythonsolveig ps2 or usb mouse?04:32
sonoftheclayrackbahr: there is a script that does that, a quick google search should finf it, it does work you will need mplayer and ffmpeg04:32
solveigusb mouse04:32
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bobdhicksThanks, ubotu. It worked04:32
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stevethepiratelike heres my sensor results..04:32
compilerwriterAt this point solveig I would try to catch geggam a little earlier in the day and see what he has to say.  He seems more knowledgable than me about the workings of usb.  Perhaps he will be able to help.  At least you have some sort of pointing device.04:32
moby_pythonsolvieg, do thumb drives work on your usb port?04:33
stevethepirateSys Temp:    +51C  (high =   +45C, hyst =   +40C)04:33
stevethepirateCPU Temp:  +35.0C  (high = +45.0C, hyst = +40.0C)04:33
stevethepiratetemp3:     +43.5C  (high = +80.0C, hyst = +75.0C)04:33
solveigthumb drives?04:33
stevethepiratefrom 'sensors'04:33
sonoftheclayri have problems with a usb mouse too, it worked fine and one day it just decided to stop04:33
moby_pythoner usb drives04:33
ackbahrsonoftheclayr: Thanks! I had found the wma3ogg script, but not that one... I'm gone looking for it!04:33
stevethepirateSchuenemann:04:33
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solveigat the beginning when I start the PC, the mouse on the USB port is working04:34
compilerwritersolveig A thumb drive looks like what you have to connect your mouse, but is a flash drive.04:34
stevethepiratecould it be ntfs?04:34
Schuenemannyou're on windows?04:34
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moby_pythonsolveig, does it stop working after some time, or after you boot to kde?04:34
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stevethepirateNo04:34
solveigafter some time, mody04:34
solveigmoby04:34
moby_pythonsonoftheclay, did you update the kernel and it stop working.04:35
stevethepiratelinux.. but i have a windows partition [ntfs]  with work on..04:35
BluesKajsolveig, using a laptop?04:35
sonoftheclayrmoby_python: i might've done, i can't remember that much04:35
compilerwritermoby_python have you followed everything we have tried so far?04:35
bobdhicksThanks everyone. The suggestion worked.04:35
moby_pythonno04:35
compilerwriterblueskaj it is a laptop.04:35
moby_pythonI've seen a little bit of it.04:35
stevethepirateschu04:36
BluesKajoverheating maybe04:36
moby_pythonI kinda figured it might be a usb driver especially if it is on an older laptop04:36
stevethepirateBluesKaj: was that at me?04:36
compilerwriterWe have even tried disabling the touchpad in her bios moby_python.  It seems the mouse craps out on her after a time.04:36
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BluesKajno solveig04:36
_dennis_i still prefer the gimp and gaim (instead of krita and kopete), and because of these two programs i need al the gnome stuff ....has this a negative impact on the performance of my pc (or does it just take some extra HD space)04:36
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stevethepirateHow would i find the model number of my motherboard?04:37
solveigyeah, using a laptop04:37
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moby_pythonsolvieg, can you try using something else on the usb drive when it stops working?04:37
kalorindennis likely it's just harddisk space04:37
_dennis_kalorin: tnx04:37
solveigno04:37
solveighave nothing here04:37
bbeck_Has anyone noted that their CD-ROM stopped working properly after this mornings security updates?04:37
moby_pythondoes you mouse adapter have a light on it?04:38
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solveigno, never04:38
solveigwhen then mouse works there is no light too04:38
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compilerwritersolveig how many usb ports do you have on your satellite?04:38
solveig304:39
solveigall three doesnt work at the mouse04:39
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blekosdo u have any idea y when i run oo it is grey, has no icons, and has a big X on the top left corner instead of open office's logo? (The X is that u get when u run smg from commnad line)04:39
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don_jr__I"m being told my nvidia drivers are old, is there a way I can get them updated?04:40
BluesKajsolveig, toshiba satellite ?... hehe daughter has the problem in windows ...no cursor after it loads the OS04:40
solveigjo toshiba satellite04:41
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solveigin windows it does work without any problems04:41
BluesKajwonder if it's a hardware problem with Toshiba laptops, solveig04:41
solveighm04:41
solveigperhaps I am turning back to windows04:42
moby_pythonsolveig, http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/xfree/mouse/04:42
BluesKajsolveig, I  did read that one of the overheating symptoms was , no cursor control04:42
moby_pythonthat has some things you can do to check the problem out.04:42
compilerwritersolveig I would hate to see you do that.04:43
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solveigyeah but its getting on my nerves04:43
BluesKajsolveig, returning to windows won't help your cursor problem04:44
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stevethepirateAnyone.. howto see motherboard model number in commandline?04:44
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don_jr__The older 8776 nvidia drivers for my card ship with edgy...is there a way I can get them updated to the 9xxx version?04:44
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BluesKajlspci, stevethepirate04:44
BluesKajerr04:44
stevethepirateBluesKaj: that only gives chipset information.04:44
stevethepirateNot actual motherboard model..04:45
solveigblueskaj: sure :) in windows my mouse works!04:45
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BluesKajnot choipset but what ver you have onboard the pci slots04:45
gdiebeldon_jr__: albertomilone.com/wordpress. get envy04:45
stevethepirateYeah.. but i need the actual -model number- of my motherboard... akin to what CPU-Z gives..04:46
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BluesKajok solveig , hate to see you go :(04:46
solveig:(04:46
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stevethepirateBluesKaj:04:47
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ZoohouseHello every one. Quick question. I need to get the md5sum of a groupd of dir that have n number of dir within. How can I do that with md5sum without manualy having to type each dir? is there a -R or similar flag??? --man md5sum doesn't say..04:47
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geggamfor a in * ; do cd $a do md5sum * >> ~/mdfile.txt ; done04:50
geggamfor a in * ; do cd $a ; md5sum * >> ~/mdfile.txt ; done04:50
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BluesKajok gents, what's the cli command for choosing the default browser ?...had it in my txtfile til the the kernel update crashed my system04:51
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pentahi, can anyone help me install feisty on a lvm partition?04:52
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BluesKajpenta join kubuntu+1..it's the feisty chat04:55
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sonoftheclayrpenta: you might have more luck in #ubuntu+104:56
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pentathx04:57
ewgeni90hello04:57
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sonoftheclayrhi04:57
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ewgeni90its help chat?04:58
sonoftheclayryes04:58
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ewgeni90I'm the user of Kubuntu 6.06 LTS and i dont know why i dont can hearing mp3 music05:01
corbax!fr05:01
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:01
LeeJunFan!mp3 | ewgeni9005:02
ubotuewgeni90: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:02
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ewgeni90thank you!05:02
hordecan anyone tell me how to find (thru BASH or GUI) my BIOS info?05:03
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hordecan anyone tell me how to find (thru BASH or GUI) my BIOS info?05:05
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jtholmes!bios | horde05:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:07
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Roogerhi all05:08
jtholmesRooger: hello05:08
Roogercan anyine help me at all???05:08
Roogerhi jtholmes05:09
jtholmesRooger: for a few minutes i can what is the question05:10
RoogerI want to run skype on Kubuntu 64 bit, but it won't let me05:10
RoogerI have heard of an emu for 32 bit, but I can't find it05:10
_hansen_Rooger: did you install the ia32-libs package?05:11
RoogerI think so05:11
RoogerI'll just check05:11
jtholmesRooger: sorry out of my scope05:11
Roogerokay, no worries05:11
BluesKaj!browser05:11
ubotuBrowsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache205:11
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BluesKaj!default-browser05:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about default-browser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:12
hordecheers, the command I was looking for was "dmidecode"05:12
BluesKajanyone know how to make FF the default browser? ...I've lost the command05:13
stevethepiratein system settings you can set it.05:13
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Roogeranyone know where I could get help with the 64bit version???05:14
BluesKajno, that doesn't work for Thunderbird email links , stevethepirate05:14
Roogerthat's not a web site05:14
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nbcbhi what kind of apps in kubuntu can i use to monitor my network traffics like what kind of packages send and which port and ip it send to?05:16
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nbcbeg like i'm using bittorrent serving as seeds and leeching , how can i monitor the traffic flow?05:17
geggamsnmp05:17
pollyoAnyone familiar with the linux driver development kit?  If so do you know if anyone is making use of it to make drivers for lexmark printers?05:17
BluesKajpolly , most lexmarks have linux drivers support05:18
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nbcbok i installed it how do i use it05:18
BluesKajhowdy Yorokobi :)05:19
pollyoBluesKaj: I was unable to find the proper driver for the Lexmark X617005:19
YorokobiGood morning, BluesKaj05:19
Pollywogdoes anyone know how I can remove icons added by the network wizard (knetattach)?05:19
PollywogI can't just delete them05:19
Pollywogtried that05:19
BluesKajbummer pollyo, no generics available05:19
pollyoBluesKaj: Every webpage I have found searching claims support for lexmark is bad.05:19
pollyoBluesKaj: Not that I know about.05:20
geggami would use apache and mrtg to track nbcb .... but that solution isnt one i am willing to teach someone to do for free05:20
geggamit is quiteinvolved05:20
BluesKajYorokobi, what's the  cli command again for choosing the default browser ?05:20
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YorokobiBluesKaj, 1s05:20
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YorokobiBluesKaj, 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser'05:21
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BluesKajthx Yorokobi, gonna store that in my commands text file for future refernce ...I lost my txtfiles after trying to upgrade to Feisty which turned out to be a fiasco.05:22
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YorokobiIt'll be interesting to see if the post-release upgrade (en masse) from egdy to feisty will be as error-prone as the upgrade from dapper to edgy was.05:24
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sivajiihow to create swap partition05:24
BluesKajdapper to edgy was really quite uneventful in my experience ...was very smooth05:24
Pollywogwill Feisty have LTS?05:24
ackbahrsonoftheclayr: I finally got it working (remember, the wma2mp3 story 50 minutes ago?), thank you very much!05:25
ackbahrWell, see you all soon, goodbye!05:25
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sivajiiple someone tell me how to create swap partiotion05:25
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geggamdd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=1024 count=500k05:26
geggammkswap swapfile05:26
geggamswapon swapfile05:26
Pollywogis that the same as a swap partition?05:26
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sivajiiit may erase any data ?05:27
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geggamecho "/path/to/swapfile   none  swap 0 0 " >> /etc/fstab05:27
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Pollywogcouldn't one use gparted to create a swap partition in unused space?05:27
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geggamas long as u have space sivajii  it wont write over anything05:27
Pollywogoic05:27
geggami would put the file swapfile in /tmp05:27
Cosmo_I'm trying to install the VPN for my work but this is what it says when I try to install the software http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15047/05:28
sivajiiok05:28
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ubuntu_i've tried to install kubuntu to my sony vaio pcg z600 tek05:28
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ubuntu_but it can load the installation file05:29
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sivajii"dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=1024 count=500k" what will be the size of swap partition05:29
geggamCosmo_, type "file /usr/sbin/net6vpnd" on the command line with no quotesw05:29
geggam500mb05:29
sdlnxgkanyone have issues installing  icecast2 with adept packet manager and it installs no files???05:29
geggamadjust 500k to suit05:30
geggameach 100k is a 100m05:30
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Shura`hello ! is anyone using Konversation ? I have 2 questions : How do I auto-auth (on Quakenet) on connect, and can i automatically rejoin a channel after having being kicked ? ty05:30
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Cosmo_geggam: it says /usr/sbin/net6vpnd: writable, regular file, no read permission05:30
geggamwhat else ?05:31
geggamELF executable ??05:31
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sivajiisivaji@sivaji-desktop:~/Desktop$ mkswap swapfile05:32
sivajiiSetting up swapspace version 1, size = 524283 kB05:32
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sivajiino label, UUID=8e439137-8d5a-4eed-bf06-3f06ff3fa67905:33
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sivajiigeggam: u gave three command ,am i suppose to execute all command05:34
geggamyes05:34
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sivajiino label, UUID=8e439137-8d5a-4eed-bf06-3f06ff3fa67905:34
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geggamu dont need a label05:34
Shura`hello ! is someone using Konversation ? I have 2 questions : How do I auto-auth (on Quakenet) on connect, and can i automatically rejoin a channel after having being kicked ? ty05:34
sivajiihow to give that05:34
geggamuuid is a robust mount system... sort of pointless in this application05:34
geggamswapon swapfile05:35
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sivajiisivaji@sivaji-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo swapon swapfile05:36
sivajiiswapon: swapfile: Device or resource busy05:36
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geggamswapon -s05:36
geggampaste the output05:36
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sivajiisivaji@sivaji-desktop:~/Desktop$ swapon -s05:37
sivajiiFilename                                Type            Size    Used    Priority05:37
sivajii/home/sivaji/Desktop/swapfile           file            511992  1524    -105:37
geggamu have swap05:37
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geggamissue this command to have it automatically05:37
sivajiiya now i have thank u05:38
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geggamecho "/home/sivaji/Desktop/swapfile     none swap 0 0 " >> /etc/fstab05:38
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sivajiii got swap partition so what is the use of this command that u gave just now05:39
sivajiiecho "/home/sivaji/Desktop/swapfile     none swap 0 0 " >> /etc/fstab05:39
geggamto add it to fstab so u have swap every boot05:39
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sivajiibash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied05:40
jordo23Anyone here run TightVNC?05:41
sivajiigeggam:bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied05:41
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geggamsudo echo "/home/sivaji/Desktop/swapfile     none swap 0 0 " >> /etc/fstab05:42
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blekosi've come accross with a very weird problem, i have openoffice 2.2 when i open it,  there are no icons next to the text (eg. for alignment, spellcheck etc), more over it doesnt take the system colors,05:44
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blekosany ideas?05:44
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jhutchins_lt2Ah.  Of COURSE the live cd can't play mp3's.05:45
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dromer!basket05:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about basket - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
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jordo23!vnc05:46
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX05:46
jordo23!FreeNX05:47
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX05:47
Pollywogoh thanks I needed that too05:47
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Pollywogthough I want to install it on an Etch system to connect to it from xtightvncviewer on Edgy05:48
cyberiushi! i'm using kubuntu 7.04! When i make a scan with "kismet" he stops scanning after some minutes. He uses the monitor mode of my wlan card. Somebody told me that kubuntu maybe sets the wlan card after some time into a "power save" mode, when no packets are send (this is the case in the monitor mode)? if yes, how can i disable the power save mode? please help me thank you!05:48
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jordo23anyone know where tightvnc's config files are?  (can't see in /etc)05:49
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jpcunhacan anyone give me a good guide how to update my nvidia graphic card drivers?05:50
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Pollywogjpcunha: I just used 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' and that got everything05:51
Pollywogjordo23: ~/.vnc05:51
jpcunhaoh ok05:52
jpcunhathx alot ;)05:52
jordo23Pollywog: Do you use tightvnc?05:52
Shura`!konversation05:52
PollywogI am using vnc4server and tightvnc viewer05:52
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:53
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d0uglashi.. in the console, what do i have to do to get it in high-res? something to do with a framebuffer kinda thing?05:54
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Yorokobid0uglas, one way that may work is to specify a resolution at boot (eg, resolution=1024x768). Whether it works is a bit hit-or-miss in my experience.05:55
d0uglashrmm.. i've done this a while back in debian, but it was a radeonfb something05:56
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d0uglasnothing like what you said though05:56
jordo23Does anyone run TIGHTVNC on Kbuntu?05:56
Yorokobi<-- zero ATI experience05:56
Pollywogjordo:  I believe tightvnc also keeps the configs in ~/.vnc if I remember correctly05:57
cyber-hazardIs anyone else using the beta out there? I'm having some issues with apt/adept/synaptic05:57
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jordo23Pollywog: Yeah....I found them.....but still cant get it working....05:59
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ReTyPehow do i play midi files ?05:59
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jordo23Pollywog: I installed it through APt-get and cannot connect (ports 5800 thru 5900 are forwarded too)05:59
Pollywogyou started the server on the remote and you see it with 'ps ax'?06:00
Pollywogdid you set a password on the remote?06:00
Pollywogwith vncpasswd command?06:00
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jordo23Pollywog: Not yet....let me try that06:01
PollywogI think that is how it's done in tighvnc06:01
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jordo23Pollywog: Do you know how I can tell if No-IP is working too?06:02
Pollywogwhat is no-ip?06:02
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jordo23Pollywog: I dont think that is the problem as I have resolution to my web server06:02
frojndwhat does that mean if u write arp -a in a konsole and there is no output... that u don't have router??06:02
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Pollywogyou have a dynamic dns service?06:02
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Pollywogcan you telnet to the remote host on the vnc port?06:03
Yorokobifrojnd, it may mean that you have not connected to anything that would need an arp table entry06:03
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jordo23Pollywog:  I am actually not at a remote site....I am on the same LAN06:04
geggamnetstat -rn shows a route06:04
geggam:|06:04
geggami hate phones06:04
Pollywogif you are usk06:04
Pollywogk06:04
Pollywoggood06:04
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Pollywogjordo23: the other thing you can do is use gdm instead of kdm and compile it to use secure connection06:06
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Pollywogthen you can even connect via Internet so long as the remote is running ssh06:07
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jhutchins_lt2Pollywog: You can do that with kdm too, can't you?06:08
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Pollywogjhutchins_lt2: I don't know if you can do it with kdm I wanted to ask06:08
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jack_hi, if i buy a EPSON DX5050 Colour Printer, Scanner & Copier which is not on the hardware compatibility database, would i face a lot of problems? anyone experience with that printer?06:13
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jhutchins_lt2jack_: You can probably print, you might not scan, and you probably won't fax.06:14
jhutchins_lt2Epson has reasonably good support, but all-in-ones are not as well supported as dedicated devices.06:15
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jack_jhutchins_lt2: it doesnt fax, but it should be solved with the next release?06:16
jack_jhutchins_lt2: i mean i heard it offers good driver support06:16
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Cosmo_I'm trying to install the VPN for my work but this is what it says when I try to install the software http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15047/06:17
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jhutchins_lt2jack_: lack of fax support for all-in-ones has been pretty constant, so I wouldn't expect it to change soon.06:17
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Daisuke_Idoooh, that's different06:23
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Daisuke_Idofeisty treats all ata hard drives as scsi now?06:23
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palphi06:23
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SchuenemannIs it possible to convert a .psd to .html using Krita?06:24
Daisuke_Idoconvert a photoshop image file...  to html?06:25
chijinyou know, break an image to css elements within html :D06:25
Schuenemannthere is an adobe software that does that06:25
Schuenemannillustrator or photoshop, I'm not sure06:26
Daisuke_Idothat converts a photoshop image file to html.06:26
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Daisuke_Idopdf MAYBE.06:26
Schuenemannnope06:26
Schuenemannhtml + css06:26
l0calh0rstmahlzeit06:26
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Daisuke_Idoi meant converting a pdf to html, but okay06:27
Schuenemannpeople make sites in photoshop and then convert to actual home pages06:27
Schuenemannmaking lots of crappy tables06:27
Daisuke_Idookay, that's called image slicing, and it's used to create images used IN html.06:28
Daisuke_Idonow it makes sense :)06:28
YorokobiIllustrator is what converts them from images to html+css06:28
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Daisuke_IdoYorokobi's got it :)06:28
Schuenemannsigh06:28
Schuenemannso, it's not image slicing06:28
Schuenemannand it makes a whole home page06:28
SchuenemannI mean no*06:29
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Daisuke_Idothen you're probably looking for illustrator06:29
Daisuke_Idothough i'm kinda lost, so...06:29
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jhutchins_lt2Daisuke_Ido: Look for pdf2html06:30
Schuenemannso, krita can't do it?06:30
geggamhtml is code... psd is an image06:30
Schuenemann... and?06:30
jhutchins_lt2http://www.verypdf.com/pdf2htm/index.html06:30
geggamconvert jpg to C for me06:31
Schuenemanndoh06:31
jhutchins_lt2!find pdf2html06:31
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ubotuPackage/file pdf2html does not exist in edgy06:31
Schuenemannjhutchins_lt2, actually, it's me asking the question :p06:31
jhutchins_lt2Schuenemann: You need that URL again?  I just googled for it.06:31
geggamwhat u can do is convert file.psd file.jpg and see if that works06:31
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jhutchins_lt2Dudes, pdf2html - right there!06:32
geggamthen chop  the jpg with some other enduser webpublishing crap06:32
Daisuke_Idojhutchins_lt2: yeah, i wasn't looking for it, just trying to help out, and failing :\06:32
Schuenemannjhutchins_lt2, no, it's psd to html06:32
Schuenemannnot pdf06:32
jack_jhutchins_lt2: thqanks06:32
geggamall pdftohtml does is convert the jpg to png which is fatter and put it on html06:32
YorokobiSchuenemann, I've not run into anything that'll splice an image up similar to the way Illustrator does it (except illustrator). There *are* several image mapping tools available, though.06:32
Schuenemanngeggam, dude, it's psd to html, and that is possible06:33
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Schuenemanngeggam, save your irony to yourself06:33
jhutchins_lt2psd2html appears to be a commercial service.06:33
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Schuenemannlooks so06:33
Daisuke_Idojhutchins_lt2: what he's describing sounds *exactly* like image slicing...06:33
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jhutchins_lt2that's what psd2html.com calls it.06:34
Daisuke_Idothat's what i thought.06:34
cyberiushi! i'm using kubuntu 7.04! When i make a scan with "kismet" he stops scanning after some minutes. He uses the monitor mode of my wlan card. Somebody told me that kubuntu maybe sets the wlan card after some time into a "power save" mode, when no packets are send (this is the case in the monitor mode)? if yes, how can i disable the power save mode? please help me thank you!06:34
geggamSchuenemann, http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/imageformats.html06:34
jhutchins_lt2psd's might have more layout information than a simple image though,  Dunno.06:34
Daisuke_Idoand photoshop can do that, but apparently image slicing isn't what he wants.06:34
Schuenemannisn't image slicing getting an ordinary image and slicing into many images? that's not what I want06:34
jhutchins_lt2cyberius: That's probably something you're more likely to find in the forums.06:34
Daisuke_Idothat's what you're talking about.06:34
Schuenemannnope06:35
Daisuke_Idojust taking the extra step of placing those images into html06:35
cyberiusyou mean the kubuntu forum?06:35
Schuenemannthe person did the WHOLE web site as a .psd, and illustrator CAN make that html+css+images06:35
jhutchins_lt2cyberius: That, or kismet forums.06:35
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Schuenemannwith tables, forms, etc, etc, etc06:35
YorokobiSchuenemann, so use Illustrator. Problem solved.06:36
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Daisuke_Idoa form...  in a psd...  now you're smoking crack.06:36
Daisuke_Ido:)06:36
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geggamSchuenemann, ..convert the file to jpg ...import that into openoffice and save it as html... u will end up with the same junk style website06:36
geggamwhich is why the net is bloated with shit now06:36
geggam/rant06:36
SchuenemannI know it's junky, I won't use it... I'll make it tableless and w3c06:37
michelbon jour!06:37
Daisuke_Idotables in and of themselves aren't evil06:37
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SchuenemannDaisuke_Ido, look for designs in emule... you'll find many in .psd format06:37
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ypsilamoin06:39
snook353monodevelopment says its for GNOME - why?06:39
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SchuenemannYorokobi, I don't have illustrator... I didn't know krita could open .psd, so I thought it could maybe convert it... but it's ok06:39
snook353*develop06:39
BluesKajis there a site that lists common CLI commands ...can't seem to find one ...just a bunch dumb ego booster blogs written by some geeks who are patting themselves on the back for getting listed on google :)06:41
Daisuke_Idotables are useful ways of presenting information, just don't make your entire site reliant on them06:41
jhutchins_lt2BluesKaj: Yes, hang on a sec.06:41
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Daisuke_Idohttp://www.ss64.com/bash/06:42
Daisuke_Ido\o/06:42
Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: ^^06:42
jhutchins_lt2BluesKaj:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html06:42
jhutchins_lt2BluesKaj:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:42
TheSpunkyLobsterhey hoping someone can help me with gpart06:43
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ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: go on06:43
snook353gpart?  qtparted?06:43
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BluesKajjhutchins_lt2, ... thanks much :)06:43
Daisuke_Idoprobably gparted06:43
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TheSpunkyLobsteri've just completed a full scan with -f option as i'm trying to rebuild my partition table, and a normal scan brought up an older linux partiition on my dual boot, did the full scan and it found the extra parition bits, but didn't give me the info for them, instead said it had discarded them as they overlapped06:44
TheSpunkyLobsternot sure what to do about that :)06:44
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TheSpunkyLobsteri'm running on live cd right now, but could always try qtparted if that is better06:44
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: we are talking about what size?06:44
TheSpunkyLobsterthe hd is 120gig06:45
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: the dualboot includes a wintendo?06:45
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TheSpunkyLobsterit did yes, but can't boot into that eitehr, as on boot it tells me no os found06:45
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ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: not funny, which live-cd do you use?06:46
Daisuke_Idosounds like the mbr on the windows partition may have been hosed06:46
TheSpunkyLobsterusing kubuntu live right now06:46
Daisuke_Idoby the way, loving the new command-not-found package in feisty :)06:46
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knubbe-im about to upgrade my server to feisty from dapper. is the best way to upgrade straight to feisty or should i go via edgy?06:46
TheSpunkyLobsterearlier today i managed to find and mount the linux partition, but it was one from my previous install not the current one06:46
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: hmm, not funny at all06:47
Schuenemannwhen will feisty be released?06:47
ypsilaSchuenemann: 19th06:47
TheSpunkyLobsterypsila: nope complete nightmare heh06:47
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Schuenemannthanks06:47
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: got any knoppix around?06:47
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: try to get your data, save to another disc, and do it nice and clean from 006:48
darincan anyone give a quick explanation of the kde wallet?06:48
jhutchins_lt2TheSpunkyLobster: What killed the partition in the first place?06:48
ypsila!kwallet06:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:48
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Daisuke_Idoknubbe-: is everything on your server working fine?06:48
darin!kwallet06:48
darinok, ty06:49
Daisuke_Idoif so, don't upgrade yet, as dapper is still the LTS release06:49
ypsiladarin: for your pw's such in Kmail06:49
jhutchins_lt2darin: kwallet is a silly copy of  a windows toy to store all of your passwords in one place so you don't have to enter them.  Often you will have to enter your kwallet password each time a password is queried from kwallet.06:49
TheSpunkyLobsteri do have  knoppix live cd here as well yes06:49
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darinI see06:49
darinso not really necessary06:49
TheSpunkyLobstercurrently i can't access anything on the drive at all, the kubuntu live cd says it's all unused space06:49
Daisuke_Idowhich is RETARDED, it would be quicker to just, you know, enter the password in the first place.06:50
darinlol06:50
TheSpunkyLobsteras to what caused it i have no clue, turned on the machine and it was screwed06:50
darinno kidding06:50
jhutchins_lt2darin: Not even desirable in my opinion.06:50
darinyea ok06:50
Daisuke_Idofirst thing i do is tell it to go away06:50
jhutchins_lt2kwallet can be useful if you want a lot of really secure, unmemorizable different passworsd for things.06:50
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jhutchins_lt2You can machine generate the passwords then have one memorable one for kwallet.  It's _supposed_ to only ask the wallet password once, but that doesn't always work.06:51
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: hmmm, ide or sata?06:51
TheSpunkyLobsteride06:51
jhutchins_lt2TheSpunkyLobster: Chances are that this will happen again then.06:51
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TheSpunkyLobsteri'm not worried about the windows partition, but there's stuff on the linux i need, gpart i think found the parition, but then discarded the info as it overlapped the one i found on the first scan06:52
TheSpunkyLobsterjhutchins_lt2: yup i fear that too... guessing the laptop is screwed one way or another06:52
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: I would try again with an older knoppix, kind of 506:52
knubbe-Daisuke_Ido: everything thats installed is working, but there are things in dapper thats not supported that i need (pdo-support)06:52
TheSpunkyLobsterrun gpart again under knopix you mean?06:53
jhutchins_lt2THere seem to be a bunch of laptop drives that are reaching the end of their lifecycle.  I'm running on one now (or on the live CD actually because the HD's dead).06:53
TheSpunkyLobsteri have 5.1.1 here i can use if that would be usefull06:53
TheSpunkyLobsterjhutchins_lt2: this is actually a new hardrive, i think it's more likely the drive bay itself that's dieing06:53
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: in such cases, we had the best results with knoppix, I wouldn't have asket for this one :-)06:54
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TheSpunkyLobsterypsila: ok, will try again under knoppix... is there any command i can give it to not discard overlapping paritions?06:54
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: that would have been my next step, to look whether the hd works with an other machine06:54
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ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: hmm, I don't know, I never had that kind of message,06:55
TheSpunkyLobsterypsila: unfortunatly as it's in my laptop, i can't do that06:55
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: even a laptop can be opened :-)06:55
TheSpunkyLobsteryou mentioned qtparted earlier, would it be better to try that/06:55
atidemhi!06:55
TheSpunkyLobsteroh i can get the drive out no problem, but can't connect it up anywhere else :)06:55
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ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: try it first with knoppix first06:57
ypsila-first06:57
TheSpunkyLobsterok06:58
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: btw, what kubuntu live? 6.06 or 6.1006:58
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TheSpunkyLobster6.1006:58
ypsilahmm06:58
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ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: and that is the version that was installed?06:59
TheSpunkyLobsteryup06:59
ypsilaok06:59
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ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: good luck, anyway06:59
TheSpunkyLobsterok weirdness of the day :)07:00
TheSpunkyLobsterknoppix has detected the linux drive and i can access it07:00
TheSpunkyLobsterno wait, this is the old drive again lol07:00
TheSpunkyLobsterold parition rather07:00
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ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: hmm, so I wonder what went wrong07:00
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ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: what did you have on the last running system?07:01
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TheSpunkyLobsterwindows xp and kubuntu 6.1007:01
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ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: but where does this 2nd linux partition come from?07:02
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FJ_SanchezHi07:02
FJ_SanchezI cannot get Kubuntu Edgy working with AIGLX. I've a intel video card07:02
TheSpunkyLobsterypsila: it's from a previous install07:02
ypsila!intel07:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:02
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TheSpunkyLobsterok scan running on knoppix and we'll see what i brings back for me :)07:03
FJ_Sancheznothing with ubotu...07:03
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: what was that "previous"07:03
FJ_Sanchez!aiglx07:03
ubotuAIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl07:03
TheSpunkyLobsterxp and kubuntu 6.10 as this one was07:03
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: but what is then the "older" linux?07:03
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TheSpunkyLobsteri did a full reinstall about 6 weeks ago07:04
TheSpunkyLobsterit's picking up the kubuntu from prior to that reinstall07:04
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: hmm, I would say that is not possible, instead you made an extra partition to keep that version "before reinstall"07:05
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: the reinstall should have overwritten any other linux07:06
TheSpunkyLobsterthis is what i thought too lol07:06
TheSpunkyLobsterbut there it is heh07:06
TheSpunkyLobsterand the data i need is not :)07:06
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: sure?07:06
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TheSpunkyLobsteryup positive07:07
TheSpunkyLobsteri'll see what this scan brings up and then try again :) need to go eat now anyway heh07:07
TheSpunkyLobsterthanks for the help so far :)07:07
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: I#m sorry, that was no help at all07:08
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Kite_DHcan somebody help me with java?07:13
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ypsila!java07:13
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.07:13
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schwonkHiya. Does the feisty install CD support creating and installing to a resier4 partition?07:16
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schwonk*reiser07:17
BluesKajnot that i'm aware , schwonk07:17
ypsila!feisty07:17
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)07:17
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schwonkBluesKaj: So my only choice is ext3 then, more or less?07:18
ypsilaKite_DH: warum machst das nicht auf deutsch?07:18
Kite_DHypsila: was machen?07:18
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FJ_SanchezHi07:19
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FJ_SanchezAnybody using AIGLX and intel graphics card?07:19
FJ_SanchezI cannot get it working..07:19
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ypsilaKite_DH: asking your question ;-) wait until moni is there, she's a bit specialized to java, as it is more than installing the right version07:19
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Kite_DHypsila: im always here, just to learn something =)07:20
berkesis there an ETA on feisty stable around?07:20
blippehow do i make kde show my japanese character and not transform %2f to / ?07:20
ypsilaKite_DH: as you can see on the amount of helpful answers...........07:20
blippeberkes: 19th07:20
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liamhi guys can you help me with amarok07:21
Kite_DHypsila: xD im just hanging around, soo...07:21
berkesblippe: thx07:21
marcinhi!07:21
blippeliam: ask away07:21
marcinwhat do you think about poland?07:21
ypsilaKite_DH: I'm only here to train my written english :-D07:21
liami cant get amarok to update07:21
Kite_DHypsila: lovely =) didnt you learn it in school?07:21
pagan0nemarcin: i think its cold07:21
ypsilaKite_DH: eehhm, I'm a translator07:21
marcinits cold in Poland?07:21
Daisuke_Idoliam: might want to try #amarok if they're awake07:22
blippeliam what program are you using to update and are you on feisty or edgy?07:22
Kite_DHypsila: oh, didnt know that =)07:22
Daisuke_Idothat too07:22
pagan0nemarcin: compaired to where im from :^)07:22
Kite_DHypsila: and what do you translate?07:22
marcinXXD07:22
ypsilaKite_DH: but computer language is quite different and chat too07:22
liamim edgy i think, and i downloaded amarok from its webstie07:22
marcinurpl?07:22
Kite_DHypsila: thats true07:22
liamwhen i went to install it said no c to compile07:22
Kite_DHypsila: we shouldnt talk offtopic here07:23
ypsilaKite_DH: I used to translate manuals in the early times of computing, but the last 15 years concentrated on frech-german07:23
marcinpagan0ne: rupl?07:23
blippeliam if you are not using the ones in the repos you are better off to ask to ones working on the sources you are using... #amarok07:23
Kite_DHypsila: hehe07:23
ypsilaliam: it's not in adept?07:23
pagan0nemarcin: rupl??07:23
liamerror: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH07:23
marcinare you polish?07:23
liamno my adept wont work either07:23
blippeliam: and i think you would be better of with the amarok in adept07:23
pagan0nemarcin: no, american07:24
liamok ill tell you what adept says07:24
marcinso you are stupid XXD07:24
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blippeliam: if you look at kubutnu.org they have repos for newer amaroks07:24
Daisuke_Idohowever, there is a repository containing more recent builds of amarok, but i can't remember where it was07:24
Daisuke_Idoyeah :D07:24
pagan0nemarcin: the same could be said of you07:25
marcinall americsn nation is stupid07:25
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ypsilaHEEEEEEEEEEEEE07:25
liamadept says the apt database could not be opened07:25
marcin*can07:25
ypsilastopp that immediately07:25
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pagan0nemarcin: just our goverment07:25
marcinno07:25
ypsilaliam: so some of your repos might be not ok07:25
liamhow can i fix adept07:25
liami tried to put in a new repo and thats when it hung up07:26
marcini've seen a documentary film about stupid americans07:26
liamit was a repo for amarok07:26
pagan0nemarcin: and iveseen one about the polish07:26
Daisuke_Idocouldn't be opened or is locked?07:26
marcin"Is American nation so stupid as we think?" The ansewr was : yes07:26
jkjkHmm after today's update (new kernel) X won't start anymore... (i suspect it has to to with my nvidia drivers...) any suggestions ?07:26
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ypsilaliam: fixing your sources list and apt-get (adept is only a frontend)07:26
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ypsilamarcin: would you please stop that07:27
liamwhere do i edit my sources list07:27
ypsilaasshole07:27
liamsorry im a real newb07:27
ypsilaliam: okay no problem, just need to know that07:27
Daisuke_Ido!ohmy | ypsila07:27
ubotuypsila: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:27
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ypsilaasshole is english? isn't it?07:27
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liamwhy are ppl calling yanks stupid07:27
Daisuke_Idoenglish, yes.  appropriate, no.07:27
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Daisuke_Idoliam: because the worst get represented the most, sadly, but this is offtopic, so back on task.07:28
blippeliam: i think you are able to add repos in adept (that changes the sources.list)07:28
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liamok so i need to fix the sources.list07:28
ypsilaliam: and you should check whether adept "hung up" what happens often enough07:29
BluesKajwhen one adds repos are these commands necessary or can the repos addys just be added without the :" wget http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg | sudo apt-key add"07:29
darinanyone want to offer a samba tutorial?07:29
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liamit didnt really hang up it just closed07:30
darinhave media on an ide hd on my linux box, want to stream to a media center pc via ethernet07:30
ypsilaliam: ok, can you access your process-list?07:30
liami can try and find it07:31
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ypsilaliam: do you see any adept, or adept-notifier related processes?07:31
liamno not at the moment i closed then07:32
liamthem*07:32
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stevethepiratehello ppl07:33
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ypsilaliam: can you restart adpet now?07:33
liamyeah but it will stop straight away07:33
darinhi steve07:33
jkjkIt's like the 3rd time a regular update caused X to fail after reboot... this is bad07:33
stevethepiratehow can i like backup like a list of the things that i have apt-getted ?07:33
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Daisuke_Idojkjk: feisty?07:33
ypsilaliam: hmm, edgy?07:34
jkjkDaisuke_Ido: No Edgy07:34
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darin<----- noob here, just starting out07:34
liamyeah07:34
jhutchins_ltjkjk: Pertty common if you're running propietary drivers.07:34
Daisuke_Idojkjk: kernel updates?07:34
jkjkDaisuke_Ido: yep07:34
Daisuke_Idojhutchins_lt: bout what i was thinking07:34
liamok i opened adept and it said this07:34
blippeBluesKaj: it aint necessary but good to do, otherwise you will get messages about the upgrades being unsigned07:34
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Daisuke_Idojkjk: that happens, you'll have to redo video drivers07:34
jhutchins_lt!samba | darin07:34
Daisuke_Idoit's not pretty, but hey...07:34
jkjkDaisuke_Ido: Ok i'll try thanks :)07:34
ubotudarin: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT07:34
ypsilaliam: I don't know the reason, but on some machines that happens daily on others never, and on others only from time to time, are you familiar with installing manually?07:34
liam"the APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration.07:35
Daisuke_Idoi've had to recompile the kernel module a few times in the past couple weeks07:35
liamonly a lil07:35
darinmuch thanks, will get reading07:35
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ypsilaliam: what did you do to get that error message?07:36
jhutchins_lt!fixadept | liam07:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:36
stevethepiratehow can i like backup like a list of the things that i have apt-getted ?07:36
jhutchins_lt!adeptfix | liam07:36
ubotuliam: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:36
blippeliam sometimes a krasching update leave traces left, leaving the system beleiving the update is still running, that might have happened07:36
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blippejhutchins_lt: nice07:36
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stevethepiratehow can i like backup like a list of the things that i have apt-getted ?07:37
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TheSpunkyLobstermy continuing saga with my hardrive continues heh... just done another gpart scan and again picked up the same parition, and still can't find the other one07:39
Daisuke_Idostevethepirate: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/* > ~/package_list07:39
liamsorry blippe that didnt work07:39
emonkey-pwhy it's possible to order max 10 ubuntu Feisty CDs through ShipIt and only max 3 Kubuntu CDs?07:39
Daisuke_Idothat's *just* a list though07:40
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stevethepirateDaisuke_Ido: ta07:40
pollyoAnyone here use beryl!?07:40
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Daisuke_Idoemonkey-p: because kubuntu is a smaller project07:40
pollyoI finally got it to run after installing the proper video drivers.07:40
Daisuke_Idopollyo: yep :)07:40
savetheWorldemonkey-p: Kubuntu is worth a lot more, so you only get 3 free ones.07:40
stevethepiratecan i then like, like iterate through that list and re-apt-get all the files?07:40
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Daisuke_Idohmm07:41
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jhutchins_lt!automate | stevethepirate07:41
Daisuke_Idoi'm sure there's a way to07:41
ubotustevethepirate: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning07:41
emonkey-psavetheWorld: lol07:41
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: How do you see it in action?  Does it do anything without changes to the setup?07:41
Daisuke_Idowobbly windows and slight transparency07:41
Daisuke_Idorunning beryl-manager?07:41
liamok guys sorry but this is really bugging me07:41
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TheSpunkyLobsteranyone else have any ideas on how i can only find a parition table for an install that has been installed over the top of?07:42
sdlnxgk!icecast207:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about icecast2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:42
sdlnxgk!icecast07:42
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pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Beryl Settings Manager?07:42
savetheWorldemonkey-p: I wasn't kidding............... :-) KDE > gnome07:42
liamhow do i fix adept?07:42
Daisuke_Idopollyo: no, beryl-manager07:42
Daisuke_Idoit's a separate package07:42
liami know its because of my repos07:42
Daisuke_Idoit will make life easier :)07:42
liambut how do i change them07:42
jhutchins_ltliam: Did you do the fix for the locked database?07:42
ypsilaliam: there is a simple way to do it, but I'm not that familiar to it07:42
Daisuke_Idoliam: kdesu kate /etc/sources.list07:43
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jhutchins_lt!easysource07:43
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:43
Daisuke_Idooops, that wasn't right07:43
chemist109kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:43
Daisuke_Idotry kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:43
Daisuke_Idoyeah07:43
liamok ill try that kate edit07:43
Daisuke_Idoget in a hurry and bam, everything falls apart07:44
TheSpunkyLobsterypsila: is it worth trying this qtparted you mentioned to try and find the missing partition?07:44
Daisuke_Idoif you've installed over it, you're probably not going to find a whole lot07:44
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Is that under windows managers: Beryl, Compiz, Metacity, KWin?07:44
Daisuke_Idono07:44
Daisuke_Idosudo apt-get install beryl-manager07:44
Daisuke_Ido:)07:44
liamwhere is the sources.list file07:44
TheSpunkyLobsterDaisuke_Ido: that's the problem kinda... i'm seeing the one i installed over, not the one i installed07:44
TheSpunkyLobsterif that  makes sense07:44
ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: hmm, I don't think that qtparted will find a missing partition07:45
Daisuke_Idoliam: just told you07:45
savetheWorlddice K ?07:45
chemist109liam: /etc/apt/sources.list07:45
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jhutchins_ltchemist109: Helio Castroneves was around earlier.07:45
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: I have it installed.07:45
jhutchins_ltOn the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.07:45
Daisuke_Idopollyo: it's an app that runs in the tray that gives you access to beryl's functionality07:45
TheSpunkyLobsteri'd do another full scan under knoppix, but i imagine i'll just be told the same, that it will discard the overlapping partition, which by the looks of it, is the one i actually want07:46
Daisuke_Idopollyo: run beryl-manager in a terminal, see what kind of output you get07:46
liami taken out the bad repo but it wont let me save the changed file07:46
Daisuke_Idoand are you running aiglx or xgl?07:46
Daisuke_Idoliam: you need to be superuser07:46
jhutchins_ltTheSpunkyLobster: At what point do you decide "he's dead, Jim" and just start to work on reconstruction?07:46
Daisuke_Idoliam: this command: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:46
liami am the superuser lol07:46
Daisuke_Idookay, now this is getting weird.07:47
TheSpunkyLobsterjhutchins_lt: umm when i've got this data back as i know it must be there :) there's some pretty important stuff on there ol07:47
liamkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list failed to open device07:47
stevethepirateis it just me or is the ntfs-3g driver rather tweaky?07:47
Daisuke_Idoliam: error 168?07:48
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jnewinghello all :)07:48
liamah it might have worked now07:49
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Do you mean the little gem at the bottom of the screen?07:50
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liamah haaaaa thankyou so verymuch adept is alive and well07:50
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jnewinghow could i find out the modeline for my monitor so i can get my 1680x1050 res working?07:50
liamnow how do i get it to install the latest amarok07:50
jhutchins_ltTheSpunkyLobster: Pay-someone-with-better-equipment important?07:50
TheSpunkyLobsternot quite that important no :)07:50
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pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Not sure if beryl is working.  I can set it for Compiz but it appears that everytime I set it to Beryl it drops back down to the gnome setting.07:51
TheSpunkyLobsterbut also it's good knowledge building as a relative linux newbie to get used to other parts of the os :)07:51
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pollyoDaisuke_Ido: The Metacity manager07:51
aurel17does anybody know how to make MOUNTISO work in kubuntu?07:52
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ypsilaTheSpunkyLobster: you will find out, it is much easier you thought it to be, it takes a little time, but then..............07:52
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TheSpunkyLobsterthis is what i'm thinking :) and also why i'd rather not give up on this... if i can make it work right now and get this back i'll know how to in the future if it ever happens again07:53
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liamhi guys amarok wont update in adept07:54
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ypsilaliam: #amarok07:54
microphone_not_whi07:54
jhutchins_ltTheSpunkyLobster: There's also the chance that you'll destroy it.07:54
liamyeah amarok07:54
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microphone_not_wmy mic not working in kubuntu07:55
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TheSpunkyLobsterjhutchins_lt: that's true enough, but right now it's dead anyway :)07:55
microphone_not_whellpppppp07:55
liami know theres a 1.4.5 and mine is only a 1.4.507:55
Arwenum, what bitrate should I use to make sure there's no audible artifacts in Vorbis audio?07:55
ypsilamicrophone_not_w: because problem?07:55
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microphone_not_wi have used alasmixer and kmix nothing helps07:55
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microphone_not_win windows it works07:55
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greeghi gang07:55
ypsilamicrophone_not_w: you do not expect an answer concerning wintendo, right?07:56
jhutchins_ltArwen: There's some good stuff in the usenet newsgroup faq's.07:56
jhutchins_ltmicrophone_not_w: Capture enabled?07:56
Arwenjhutchins_lt, don't you need a special client to read newsgroups?07:56
microphone_not_wIn Kubuntu mic not working07:56
greegdoes anyone have a solution for uninstalling grub? google suggests running fix /mbr froma windows cd .  which i dont have07:56
ubuntu_test07:56
jhutchins_ltArwen: Google.07:56
greegthe drive boots when it's in slave position.  unwanted results/action07:56
microphone_not_wits causing public emabaaressemnt to me07:56
Arwenjhutchins_lt, err... how?07:56
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jhutchins_ltgreeg: fdisk /mbr07:57
stevethepiratei can't write to my windows partition.. any ideas why?07:57
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microphone_not_was i cannot voice chat with relatives who make fun of kubuntu07:57
greegthanx pal07:57
jhutchins_ltgreeg: Get a DOS boot floppy or CD.07:57
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greegjhutchins_lt:  aw cant this be done from linux?07:57
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jhutchins_ltArwen: Groups.google.com07:57
Arwenah07:57
jhutchins_ltgreeg: Yes, with a lot of knowledge of harddisk formats.07:58
Arwenjhutchins_lt, um, I'm completely new to usenet, where would I start looking?07:58
stevethepirateSomeone: ntfs-3g is not working .. can some1 help me?07:58
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greegthanx pal07:58
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jhutchins_ltArwen: music, music-makers.07:58
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liamwhy wont amarok or kubuntu recognise my mp3 player07:58
liampleeeeeassee07:58
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ypsilajhutchins_lt: I would have said: bios?07:58
jhutchins_ltArwen: Also there's knode or pan for reading newsgroups from your isp's server.07:58
gansinho_liam: does it mount?07:58
liamhow do i do that?07:59
Yorokobiliam, is your mp3 player an iPod nano?07:59
liamsorry complete noob07:59
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jhutchins_ltliam: You forgot to enable the camera and it can't see the player?07:59
liamno its a Creative Zen v series07:59
gansinho_please anyonoe knows if there is a way to redimension the icons from the system tray?07:59
aurel17MOUNTISO??07:59
liamcamera?07:59
liamtheres no problem with a camera08:00
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gansinho_liam:  go to /media and see if the player is not mounted there08:00
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microphone_not_wmy mic not working in kubuntu08:00
liamno i see my hdd, fdd and 2 cd drives08:00
microphone_not_was i cannot voice chat with relatives who make fun of kubuntu08:01
liamno mp3 player08:01
microphone_not_wits causing public emabaaressemnt to me08:01
liamor mass storage08:01
wilmanwhich driver do i need for dvd reading08:01
gansinho_liam: ok, the player is not being mounted08:01
liamhow do i mount it?08:01
jhutchins_ltliam: Is it showing up in lsusb?08:01
gansinho_liam: now we know the problem, that`s already good =) let me see08:01
liami dont know what that is sorry08:01
ypsilahmmmmmmm08:02
gansinho_liam: which version of kubuntu are u using?08:02
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liamedgy08:02
liami think08:02
jhutchins_ltliam:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands08:02
jhutchins_ltgansinho_: All yours.08:03
gansinho_liam: you're sure the player is working?08:03
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gansinho_jhutchins_lt: no problem =)08:03
aurel17is it possible to mount a nrg image without converting it to iso?08:03
liam100% works in win and its bran spankin!#08:03
microphone_not_wkubuntu sucks08:03
gansinho_microphone_not_w: you yoo08:03
gansinho_too08:03
microphone_not_w cannot voice chat with relatives who make fun of kubuntu08:03
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liamso anyway how do i get this to mount08:04
gansinho_liam: ok, you're completely  new to linux right?08:04
liam100% lol08:04
liamsorry08:04
microphone_not_wits documented bug08:04
gansinho_ok08:04
gansinho_just a sex08:05
gansinho_sec08:05
savetheWorldfreudian08:05
microphone_not_wdont know how time it will take fic mic bug08:05
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microphone_not_whttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/8053108:05
jordo23Is there a way to get a listing of all devices connected through uSB and their addresses?08:06
microphone_not_wits causing public emabaaressemnt to me08:06
microphone_not_wmy mic not working in kubuntu08:07
jhutchins_ltmicrophone_not_w: Make sure you vote for it, more votes means higher priority.08:07
jhutchins_ltmicrophone_not_w: You might get around it with an alternate kernel, or you could build one yourself.08:07
gansinho_liam:  did you tried to connect anything else to the pc yet? a usb cam for ex08:07
jhutchins_ltmicrophone_not_w: You can also try other distros, like gentoo or mandriva/fedora/suse.08:07
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hyper_chmepis08:07
hyper_chfedora core08:08
gansinho_microphone_not_w: google > distrowatch08:08
gansinho_=)08:08
liamerrrm yeah and a printer08:08
gansinho_liam: the cam worked?08:08
liambut couldnt get either of them to work08:08
hyper_chor maybe an upgraded version of ubuntu... edgy of feisty08:08
TheSpunkyLobsteris there any way to make gpart not discard overlapping partitions on it's full scan?08:08
liamthey were recognised i think08:08
gansinho_were?08:08
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liamcome to think of it no i dont think it did08:08
liamcould it be the usb drivers08:09
gansinho_could you try again please? I need to know if your linux is recognizing usb devices08:09
jhutchins_ltliam: in a console, tail -f /var/log/messages.  Plug the drive in, you should see that it's set up as something like /dev/sda.  Mount it with mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/media08:09
liamok ill try that08:09
gansinho_jhutchins_lt: I had a problem like this in my edgy, my hotplug got corrupted08:09
jhutchins_ltliam: You'll need sudo of course, sudo mount....08:09
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gansinho_then I couldn`t even mount, because of the hotplug08:10
liamsorry explain08:10
jhutchins_ltgansinho_: I think it's actually a part of kde that auto-mounts hotplugged storage.08:10
liami tried tail -f /var/log/messages and it just came up mark , mark,08:10
jhutchins_ltliam: Ok, while you're watching that, unplug the drive and plug it in again.08:11
liamok08:11
gansinho_while seeing this plug the mp308:11
jhutchins_ltliam: does it light up?08:11
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liamah yes it says new high speed device disconnected then reconnected at address 608:12
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liamnew high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 608:12
jhutchins_ltliam: Ok, it should say something like "sda" at the left of that.08:13
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liamno the whole line is.....08:13
jhutchins_ltAH, another easy way is to just do sudo fdisk -l, that will list all devices.08:13
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liamApr 11 19:11:31 liam-desktop kernel: [17199361.240000]  usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 608:13
liamthats the whole line08:13
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jhutchins_ltliam: Ok, try fdisk -l08:13
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greg_gany specific tests I should do when I run the kubuntu live cd (20070411)??08:14
jhutchins_ltsudo fdisk -l08:14
jhutchins_ltI will eventually learn.08:14
liamdoes that not format a disk?08:14
Pensacolaanyone alse having problems with kdewallet and feisty?08:14
jhutchins_ltliam: No, it only lists available partitions.08:14
jhutchins_ltPensacola: Feisty's still inn #ubuntu+108:14
el_isma(Edgy) I ran Mplayer and it crashed, now I can't get any audio. I don't want to restart. What should I do?08:14
greg_gel_isma: try restarting X (ctrl-alt-backspace) if you can do that08:15
liamthat didnt do anything08:15
jhutchins_ltel_isma: Restart alsa?  Do ps ax | grep mplayer, make sure it's really gone.08:15
jhutchins_ltlia sudo fdisk -l returned nothing?08:15
el_ismajhutchins_lt: Yes, it's gone08:15
jhutchins_ltTHat is a lowercase L, not a 1.08:15
jhutchins_ltel_isma: /etc/init.d/alsa restart then.08:16
el_ismagreg_g: the process is dead.08:16
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jhutchins_ltel_isma: sudo.08:16
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greg_gel_isma: then I dont' know sorry08:16
el_ismajhutchins_lt: Thought that too, there's no alsa there, only alsa-utils08:16
jhutchins_ltel_isma: Ok, restart that then.08:17
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liamany help guys08:17
jhutchins_ltliam: Only if you answer our questions.08:17
jhutchins_ltliam: sudo fdisk -l  should at least show the hard drive.08:17
Minataku!seen genii08:17
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el_ismathanks greg_g, jhutchins_lt08:17
MinatakuOh, shut up, you08:17
Minatakulol08:17
liamhonestly nothing shown up08:17
liamwhen i done fdisk -l08:17
Admiral_Chicagoliam: thas because you need to type sudo fdisk -l08:18
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jhutchins_ltliam: You have to use sudo.08:18
gansinho_-l is a L not a 108:18
liamok i dont this with sudo and i have hda1 to hda508:18
jhutchins_ltno return means he didn't do it with sudo.08:18
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jhutchins_ltliam: No sda?08:18
liamno08:18
liamno sda08:18
jhutchins_ltliam: google for your player model and linux then, it isn't appearing as a usb storage device but something else.08:19
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jhutchins_ltThat or the hotplug is messed up.08:20
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jfryis pastebin down?08:20
jfryI keep getting a query error08:20
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jfryNever mind... can anyone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15092/08:22
jfryI can't seem to upgrade my kernel after upgrading to 7.0408:22
liamim reading an article that says i need libmtp08:23
liamcan you help  me with that08:23
jfryline 9, "The provided postinst hook script [/sbin/update-grub]  could not be run." seems to be where the probelm is08:23
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jfryliam: is it in the repositories08:23
jhutchins_ltjfry: Feisty's still in #ubuntu+1, you should have better luck there.08:24
liamin adept?08:24
jfryyep08:24
jhutchins_lt!info libmtp08:24
ubotuPackage libmtp does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas08:24
jfryjhutchins_lt: thanks... didn't know about that08:24
jhutchins_lt!info libtmp08:24
ubotuPackage libtmp does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas08:24
jhutchins_lt!find libmtp08:24
ubotuFound: libmtp-dev, libmtp208:25
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jhutchins_lt!info libmtp208:25
ubotulibmtp2: Implementation of Microsoft's MTP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.18-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 168 kB08:25
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liamive searched for libmtp in adept and i cant find it08:26
jfryliam: you probably need to enable the universe repositories... K->system->software sources08:26
liamin system there is no software sources08:27
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jfryliam: then use adept.. adept -> manage repositories... just uncomment the universe repositorys08:29
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liamok im in managa repositories08:30
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liami have type, url, distro, and comments08:30
jfrylook for the lines that mention universe, and optionally multiverse.  Make sure there is no # symbol at the front of those lines.08:31
liamdo you mean disable?08:31
jfryone sec08:31
liamor delete the comment?08:31
jfrynm... they changed it08:31
jfrywhat does your screen look like... a text file, or a bunch of tabs and checkboxes?08:32
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liammore like a text file08:32
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jfryok.... the lines that start with deb http://.... are repositories08:33
jfrysome of them may have a # in front of them... this means they are disabled08:34
liami have reset apply close option buttons08:34
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jfryfind one that is something like: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ etch universe multiverse08:34
jfryand make sure the # is not in front of it.08:34
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liamtheres none that starts us.archive08:35
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jfryyou may not be using the us archives08:35
liamive been on witht this for hours ready to give up and go win lol08:35
malik__any one have any idea when new version of kubuntu coming out?08:35
liamim not using the us archs08:35
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jfrybut there should be one that ends in universe multiverse08:36
liamtheres a main restricted universe multivers08:36
jfryif you read the comments (##) you may even see where it says to "## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'"08:36
liamright but what does it mean uncomment do i just delete he comment08:37
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jfryyes.. remove the #08:37
chemist109aurel17: try this: mount -o loop,offset=307200 image.nrg /wheretomount08:38
chemist109It's from this wiki: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Mounting_Iso_Files08:38
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jfryessentially, when adept (actually dpkg) retrieves lists of available software from the servers, it ignores lines that are "commented out" with a #08:38
darinhello. how do I remove a computer added using sudo smbpasswd -a -m COMPUTER_NAME?08:38
jfryif you remove the #, you are telling adept to retrieve the list of software from that repository08:39
jfrydarin: what do you mean remove08:39
liamthe only lines with # are comments08:39
darinremove from the SAMBA password file08:39
liamnot address08:39
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darinI added a pc, and I wish to access network shares without a password.  If I remove the above, will it accomplish this?08:40
jfryliam, copy and paste the contents to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and send me the url for it. I will review your file myself08:41
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jfryliam, the url will be something like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12345/08:41
liami cant its not a text file its the gui frontend08:42
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cheeseboysuperkaramba: error while loading shared libraries: libfam.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:42
liamive downloaded the libmtp file can i do it manually08:42
cheeseboyhow do i fix it?08:42
jfryliam, you can't copy and paste... in that case open /etc/apt/sources.list and copy and paste it's contents08:42
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jfrydarin: smbpasswd -x08:43
jfrydarin: smbpasswd -x -m COMPNAME08:44
jfryI think08:44
liamhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15094/08:44
liamthats the url jfry08:44
cheeseboyhelp?08:45
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darinty08:45
NiceGuyUK!php08:45
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)08:45
jfryliam; ok... your universe repositories are enabled afterall08:45
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chemist109cheeseboy: try sudo apt-get install libfam008:45
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cheeseboythnx i wasnt puttin the 008:46
liamso why cant i get libmtp08:46
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jfryliam: did you "fetch updates" in adept before doing your search?08:46
chemist109Cheeseboy: use apt-cache to search for package names:  apt-cache search libfam08:46
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liamyes08:47
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jfryliam: either that, or libmtp is not in the dapper repositories... you may need to upgrade to etch08:47
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jfryliam: I am running feisty.. and searching for libmtp gives two results... libmtp-dev and libmtp508:48
liamok i haver the libmtp tar.gz08:48
liamwill you teach me how to install it manually08:48
jfryliam I would google for compiling tar.gz08:48
liamthats what i have08:49
jfryit's usually as simple as unzipping, ./configure, make, make install08:49
liami dont know how to do that08:49
chemist109liam: does: apt-cache search libmtp   give any results?08:50
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liamsorry chemist where is this08:50
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chemist109liam: type the following:  apt-cache search libmtp08:50
chemist109and see what the results are08:50
liamin google?08:51
chemist109liam: in a terminal08:51
liamok08:51
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jfryliam: http://www.linux.com/guides/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/chap13sec111.shtml08:51
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jfryliam: let chemist help first... my link will get you started compliling from source... packages are always better if they are available.08:52
evfreshman2025hey can someone help me install a new version of Macromedia's Flash Player08:52
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evfreshman2025im new to kubuntu and i have no idea how to install it08:53
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liamok i tried that and it didnt do anything08:53
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liamok sorry guys but im giving up now08:53
chemist109liam: no results?  That means its not in the repositories that you have enabled.  You might have to compile it after all.08:53
liami know i have the file but i dont know how to do it08:54
chemist109follow jfry's link08:54
liami think im going to use win08:54
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liami dont know how to compile and ive been on this for hours sorry08:54
jfryliam: don't give up just yet08:54
liamok08:54
evfreshman2025Hello?08:54
liamwhat do i do next08:54
jfrywhere is the .tar.gz file08:55
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liamon my desktop08:55
jfryopen a terminal and type cd ~./Desktop08:55
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liamok08:56
liamim there08:56
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jfrythen tar xzpf libmtb...tar.gz08:56
liamdo i need to sudo08:57
jfrymake sure you have the correct file name not what I typed08:57
jfryliam: no, not until  you install the package08:57
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evfreshman2025Can someone help me?08:58
liamit said command not found08:58
jfryliam: this command it unziping the file into a folder08:58
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jfryliam: tar is not found?08:58
liami can just extract it with the interface08:58
jfryyou could do that if you wish08:58
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jfryevfreshman2025: what's your problem08:59
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evfreshman2025i need help installing a new version of Macromedia's Flash Player08:59
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liamok ive unzipped the file into a folder on the desktop09:00
mikeyok, got samba working I think.  Any way to allow the client pc to connect to network shares without requiring a user/pass?09:00
liamso the console is now in the desktop09:00
liamin that folder09:00
jfryevfreshman2025: not to be unhelpful, but I would google that... there are plenty of guides... and besides, I don't even remember09:00
jfryyou cd'ed to the folder?09:00
evfreshman2025ugh okay thanks for your time09:00
liamcd'ed?09:01
liami dont know i just extracted the files into a folder on desktop09:01
jfryyour terminal is open to that folder09:01
liamthen opened the console in that folder09:01
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jfryok09:01
liamyeah09:01
jfrynow type: ./configure09:02
jfrythis tells the system to run the configure script in the current directory.09:02
chemist109evfreshman2025: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash09:02
liamok it stoped and said no acceptable C compiler09:02
chemist109installation instructions are right on the page09:02
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jfryliam: I guess I was wrong... your system doesn't seem to want to do anything if your not root.09:03
jfryliam: try sudo su -09:03
jfrythis will make your root, and use the root user's shell configuration09:03
liamsame thing09:03
chemist109jfry:  maybe he needs build-essential?  I don't think gcc is in the default install.09:03
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jfrychemist109: ahh you must be right... I've never run a system without the development tools installed09:04
jfryliam: apt-get build-essential09:04
jfryliam: apt-get install build-essential09:04
evfreshman2025hey someone real quick...09:05
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evfreshman2025how do you unpackage a file?09:05
_3oo3tar -xvvf <filename>09:05
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_3oo3how do put on lucky glove?09:06
evfreshman2025<_3oo3>:is that for me?09:06
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_3oo3evfreshman2025: ya09:06
evfreshman2025okay thanks09:06
liamok im trying but it wont work09:06
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jfryliam: are you still root?09:06
_3oo3liam: who, me?09:06
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liami dont know lol09:06
_3oo3anyone know how to put on luck glove?09:06
jfrylliam: whoami09:07
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liamok it wont let me do that09:07
_3oo3dude09:08
_3oo3"su"09:08
jfryliam: you can't type whoami at the prompt?09:08
liami try sudu apt-get install build-essential09:08
jfryyou are typing sudo not sudu right?09:08
_3oo3this is why i swear you should make setting up the x server manual so people learn how to use the command line before using something smarter than they are09:09
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evfreshman2025ugh it wont unpackage the file09:09
liamok ok ok09:09
elcuco_hi, i am seeing a lot of upgrades on 6.10. can anyone comment on that? anything is going to break after installs?09:09
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liami think im just gonna go back to win09:09
_3oo3probably should09:09
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chemist109evfreshman2025: you did tar -xzvf file?09:09
evfreshman2025liam: are you new to Linux?09:09
liamthanks for your help jfry, im just ignoring 300309:09
liamyeah i am09:09
jfryliam: I know how you feel... wasn't long ago I was just as frustrated09:09
_3oo3or you could go to slackware and everything gets easy09:09
evfreshman2025this is what i put on the terminal09:09
evfreshman2025tar -xvvf <install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz>09:09
evfreshman2025liam: Join the club09:10
_3oo3ubuntu is too...but it's a little different09:10
jfryliam: now I manage a number of linux servers09:10
evfreshman2025lol =]  im new too, confusing aint it!?09:10
liamsee what bugs me is ppl like 3oo309:10
liamwho think there funny09:10
_3oo3liam: how so?09:10
liamthanks for your help jfry09:10
liamill crack it another09:10
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chemist109evfreshman2025: you need -xzvf09:10
liamday09:10
_3oo3no, I'm remarkably unfunny.  But I DO know how to use the OS I installed.  unlike SOME people I don't just use linux to brag to my friends.... :P09:11
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evfreshman2025oh okay thanks09:11
jfryliam: as frustrated as  you are... he is equally as frustrated, because you jumping in in the middle rather than learning from bottom... most linux users do it you way... most pros think you need to start simple, at the command line.09:11
_3oo3jfry: that's absolutely correct09:11
liamguess what i dont brag to my friends either i only just installed it  and im LEARNING to use it09:11
evfreshman2025grrrr this is what it says09:11
evfreshman2025bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'09:11
_3oo3the command line is where you learn what linux really is.  if you can't use a command line you're not using linux, you're using X11 and a windows manager.09:12
jfryliam: i did it your way... and went back and learned the rest later... trust me, you do miss a lot that way... but if you determined you can be productive much sooner09:12
evfreshman2025what does "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' " mean?09:13
liamsorry if you find that stupid 3oo3, however learn this 3oo3 if you dont help ppl instead of calling them stupid this os that you love so much will always lag win09:13
liamsorry09:13
chemist109evfreshman2025: you used: tar -xzvf install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz     right?09:13
evfreshman2025yes09:13
_3oo3jfry: that's weird because in my first two weeks i had an irc server, ftp server, http server and smtp server all running off a box with just a command line....i dont think it works like that...some people just get scared of the flashing console ^_^09:13
liamill do some reading on command line jfry thx09:13
jfryliam: if you really want to learn it... stop trying to make it behave like windows, in fact don't do anything productive... learn the command line, understand the way config files work, init scripts, etc... get a book or read an online manual... it's not hard, just different09:13
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_3oo3's good advice09:14
liamim not scared of the console, i can use dos PROBABLY better than u 3oo309:14
_3oo3LOLOLOL09:14
_3oo3HAHAHAHAHAHAH09:14
_3oo3if you SAY so09:14
_3oo3how old are you...?09:14
liammy age means what?09:14
_3oo3alot.09:14
liamwrong09:14
jfryliam: then you have a head start.. but dos is nothing compared to linux... everything can be done at the command line in linux.. the gui is just a UI for the command line.09:14
_3oo3and if you have to ask, it means you're too young to be qualified to make that assumption ;)09:14
chemist109geez!  would you both quit with the schoolyard taunts already!09:15
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liam ok 3oo3 im 41 am i old enough09:15
liamhow old are you?09:15
_3oo3HAHAHAH then you're an idiot09:15
mikeynetworking question:  can I allow a windows pc to connect to my linux share without typing in a user/pass?09:15
_3oo3mikey:  yes09:15
mikeyinstructions please09:15
liam3oo3 please you call me an idiot yet you dont know me keep your comments to yourself09:16
_3oo3so is it a shared folder or hard drive?09:16
mikeyshared folder09:16
jfryliam: and get used to people like 3003, he is a little irritated because you didn't take the time to figure it out for yourself like he did... it's like the new money/old money thing.09:16
_3oo3liam: coming from the kid that thinks not knowing the command line is more productive...09:16
mikeyI can see the share in network neighborhood on the windows pc09:16
mikeybut when selected, it is asking for user/pass09:16
liamagain 3oo3 keep your comments to yourself09:16
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_3oo3mikey:  is it a hard drive...like an nfs, or is it a....09:17
_3oo3liam: im an american.  sue me.09:17
mikeyshared folder on ide drive09:17
_3oo3mikey k hold on09:17
mikeyok09:17
liamplease dont label your fellow country men with the same idiot brush you are tard with09:17
liamjfry, i do try to read stuff on my own but i couldnt find anything on this subject thats why i just asked for help09:18
geggamgenerally those who flame others about being inept at something are trying to hide their own issues09:18
dell190How is everyone today?09:18
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jfryliam: good luck... I need to get some work done now.... I hope you figure it out, in the mean time, please don't let people like 3oo3 get to you, they represent a small but verbal part of the community09:18
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_3oo3*yawn*.  idiot brush?  I've got twice your IQ score and three times the education.  I don't care.  Seriously.09:18
geggamliam,  what are u attempting to do09:18
liamgeggam, im trying to install libmtp, inorder to get my mtp player to work in amarok09:19
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liamthanks jfry09:19
_3oo3mike, have you tried to use samba?09:19
ohmbrhi...09:19
mikeyusing it09:19
geggamhave u added he medibuntu sources to apt liam ?09:19
jfryliam: no problem09:19
geggamthe*09:19
mikeythe server is running, the shares can be seen.09:20
liamnot sure, jfry checked my repos and said they were ok09:20
mikeybut, I would like to access without typing in a user name and password09:20
_3oo3also, what you could do is put that hard drive on the same mobo as your linux and just mount that partition....or you could create a network folder instead of a windows share09:20
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mikeydifferent box09:20
mikeyvia ethernet09:20
jfrygeggam: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15094/09:20
Edulixhi09:20
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Edulixis there any gui to admin the fstab?09:21
liamok thanks guys ive got to go now09:21
_3oo3jfry: that part would be what.....the people who learned how to use their operating system?09:21
liamthanks for your help09:21
liambye09:21
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jfry_3oo3: no, simply the people who, instead of ignoring the newbs that irritate them, must torment them into running back to Windows.09:22
_3oo3jfry: yeah, it's good for the linux community09:22
_3oo3you have to keep the stupid ones out so the smart ones can be productive.  if they don't have that mentality, they should go back to their communist windows.09:22
geggamtoo bad no one flamed your dumbass there so we could get some work done09:23
HanzZbad idea09:23
_3oo3dude I got flamed alll the time09:23
jfry_3oo3: you make the community look bad... the community can only be stronger if there are more people learning... everyone learns differently... some figure stuff out, some need a bit of hand holding09:23
ewgeni90hello09:23
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_3oo3jfry: what about RTFM and GOOGLE?09:23
mikey3003: reading your prior comments.  so what would you recommend is the best was to stream my media on the linux box to my pc?09:23
aaroncampbellWhat is the best thing to use for vnc on my system? (setting this up as a server that I can access from elsewhere)09:23
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_3oo3mikey:  http.09:23
aaroncampbellI added the vncserver package, but I see no way to set it up...09:23
_3oo3mikey:  ftp.09:23
_3oo3the easiest anyway09:24
mikeythey are in the same house, different rooms09:24
mikeyand, I will be streaming large video files09:24
_3oo3mikey: should be fine for that.09:24
_3oo3should be fast, too09:24
don_jr__I have an older version of the nvidia driver, do I need to remove it before using envy to get the more up to date version?09:24
mikeyhmm...how do I go about setting this up?09:25
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_3oo3jfry: as for making the community look bad....if someone isn't intelligent enough to use google-- considering the massive volumes of linux forums....then they probably shouldn't be using a linux system....that would be like giving BSD to a linux user and taking away his internet connection.09:25
jfry_3oo3: When someone is trying something new, for the first time, sometimes they don't even know where to start.  He tried what he knew... he tried aptitude, he didn't even knwo the terms to google for from that point on.09:25
_3oo3jfry: they need to learn how to do that.  don't just give them the answers without showing them how to research it.  you're just giving them fish.09:26
HanzZ_3oo3: so find information for him/her and tell him/her, how did you find it...09:26
_3oo3exactly, HanzZ09:26
_3oo3mikey -- http or ftp?09:26
_3oo3i say ftp09:27
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mikeydunno...I will be accessing the media using windows MCE09:27
HanzZi don't know, what you're talking about, but it's my "quick opinion L)09:27
HanzZ*" :)09:27
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_3oo3it's faster-- i won't show you how to do streaming, but for quick file transfers it's the way to go09:27
_3oo3you go to /etc/inetd.conf09:27
_3oo3uncomment the proftp daemon09:28
_3oo3exit09:28
_3oo3save09:28
_3oo3ps waux | grep inetd09:28
HanzZmikey:  i'm using kaffeine for simple streaming :) it's video player for KDE09:28
mikeydon't want to transfer. I want to select a movie using Media Center on my pc, and have my linux box serve it09:28
_3oo3kill -HUP <inetd.prod id>09:28
HanzZoh09:28
_3oo3mkey you would have to do it in a browser09:28
_3oo3and yes, it will work09:28
jfryHanzZ: lets just say we had a newb that I was trying to help, _3oo3 took it upon himself to encourage said newb to scurry back to windows.09:28
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_3oo3jfry: just doing my part ;)09:29
jfry_3oo3: I'd had left long ago if it wern't for some very patient people in IRC... thats why I am here returning the favor when I can.09:29
don_jr__Should I remove my old nvidia drivers before using envy to install the new ones, or will envy write over the old ones for me??09:29
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_3oo3it won't hinder his functionality, dude...quit worrying about it--- he's a desktop user...they shouldn't be on a linux system anyway...he's prob better off09:30
hansenkmail can't decrypt smime mail. I think I'm missing gpg-agent. Where do I get that for kubuntu?09:30
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_3oo3hansen, try #kubuntu09:30
jfry_3oo3: once you get them past the inital discomfort, they get a little more courage and figure a lot more out on their own... people like you prevent them from reaching that inital feeling of success.09:30
xenthral___3oo3: how magnanimous of you to decide that for him ?09:30
mikeybeating head against wall here...should be an easy way to navigate to a network share, select an mp3, and have it play on my windows box09:30
_3oo3oops htis is #kubuntu09:30
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hansen:)09:31
mikeyaka streaming not transfering first09:31
_3oo3mikey i've already told you how to do this09:31
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_3oo3you can stream via ftp09:31
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mikeybut, I want to use the media center interface09:31
_3oo3XenThraL: you dont have to thank me09:32
XenThraLI wasn't09:32
_3oo3mikey: hrm....that's rough.....lemme check around09:32
HanzZlol09:32
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_3oo3mikey:  this problem would be better addressed in #windows, honestly09:32
don_jr__hansen try apt-cache search gpg-agent.  I just ran it but not sure if it has what you need or not.09:33
_3oo3i would keep both rooms open.....cross-os stuff is a pain09:33
mikeyreally? but it I am setting up samba, is this not the correct forum for this?09:33
mikeyif*09:33
mikeyI am sooo close I think09:33
_3oo3mikey: it is....but you won't be able to access a file on your linux box wihtout a password, as far as I know-- you have to be logged in to have permissions09:34
mikeyI can see the share using network neighborhood, and if I wish to setup a user/pass, I'm sure I can access my media09:34
mikeyahhhhhhhhhhhh09:34
_3oo3rwx required login09:34
mikeyso that's it09:34
_Neilcan someone help me add a network printer?09:34
_Neilive started cups, but cant find it09:34
_Neilits a shared one on windows xp09:34
_3oo3what kernel is kubuntu using right now?09:34
HanzZfeisty?09:35
HanzZ;)09:35
_3oo3no, i meant what version number...feisty is prop jargon09:35
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_3oo3_Neil: cups uses a web interface09:35
_3oo3go to localhost:XXX09:35
_3oo3xxx = port you specified09:35
_NeilI didnt specify one :/09:36
_3oo3then it's the default for kubuntu09:36
tucoI want to know how to get a source list with the 20000 something packages...firefox,fglrx etc...?09:36
_3oo3i think it's 45009:36
hansendon_jr__: thanks! it's called gnupg-agent, that's why I didn't find it at first09:36
_3oo3im not sure, and i dont want to validate that though09:36
_Neilta09:36
_Neilhmm doesnt seem to be09:36
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_3oo3it's some port....can't remember....google "cups port"09:36
don_jr__hansen no problem, remember that apt-cache search <what you want> command, it's a life saver! =)09:37
HanzZ_3oo3: ok.. but on feisty i have 2.6.20-14-generic and on edgy 2.6.17-11-something09:37
hansennow I get this: "gpgme_op_decrypt_verify() returned this error code:  117440523" and kmail says bad passphrase -- but it never asked for a passphrase in the first place09:37
_3oo3so feisty is the beta os?09:37
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HanzZ_3oo3: rtfm... google is your friend :-P09:37
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_Neil_3oo3: http://localhost:631/ :)09:38
tucoI need to know how to get a source list with the 20000 something packages please...firefox,fglrx etc...?09:38
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jkjkAfter kernel update on edgy today X wouldn't start. i fixed that now just to notice that only ONE of my cores (intel dual core) is detected :( What can i do ?09:38
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_3oo3HanzZ: but i dont care that much :P09:38
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_3oo3google sounds like effort09:38
HanzZjkjk: have you smp version of kernel?09:39
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hansenhmm, dirmngr was missing too. getting closer...09:39
_Neilhmm I still cant add a network printer to cups, its shared from windows xp09:40
_Neilcan anyone help? It's canon09:40
jkjkHanzZ: I don't know i just clicked update in adept...09:40
tucoPlease someone help with my source list. I need to install ATi drivers09:40
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hansenkind of funny that I have to mess around with this. I'm the guy who wrote dirmngr :)09:40
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tucoWell apparently God create Adam, and now he messes with men in general!09:41
tucocreated09:41
tucobut this doesn't help with my Ati drivers installation09:42
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cheeseboyhey how do i find out what module eth0 is?09:42
hansenbingo! now it works. I was missing pinentry-qt (the app that asks for the passphrase)09:42
inanimateAny idea why NFS mounts keep freezing in Kubuntu? They work all right for about 5 minutes, but then they become unresponsive. I have both nfs-common and portmap installed.09:42
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LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: you around? we need to figure out how to get gpart to not discard the info we need, I wonder if using -vv flags with gpart would give us what we need?09:46
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crwebcurrent amarok build won't create tables correctly in a postgresql database09:47
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TheSpunkyLobsteryup i'm here :)09:47
TheSpunkyLobsteri can try that :)09:47
crwebanybody have any idea why?  Lots of errors int he postgres log09:47
dell190is there any way where i can make kubuntu mount my windows drive automaticly??09:47
TheSpunkyLobsterdo you want me in knoppix of kubuntu live cd wise?09:47
geggamman created god to explain the mess /dev/urandom causes09:47
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: it doesn't matter which.09:47
TheSpunkyLobsterok09:48
cheeseboyanyone know?09:48
geggamyes dell190 .... add the partition to fstab09:48
TheSpunkyLobstergoing to reboot back into kubuntu then as i can't get a lan connection on knoppix right now for some reason09:48
donevery time I've used envy it's screwed up my computer.....this is frustrating.09:48
geggamseveral ways cheeseboy ... dmesg is prolly the quickest09:48
dell190geggam: how do i do that?09:48
LeeJunFanTheSpunkyLobster: I don't see any flags in 'man gpart' which tell it to not discard, it explains how discard works, but not how to have it not discard. We want the sectors for the ones it's discarding.09:48
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tucoPlease someone help with my fglrx! :-(09:49
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TheSpunkyLobsteryup that would be what we need, as it finds the other parition there, just ignores it09:49
jkjkHanzZ: Any idea ?09:49
tucoor repositories...I only seem to get 16xxx packages, I used to have 20xxx at least09:49
geggamopen an editor and edit /etc/fstab... open a console type "man fstab"... look for the examples in the man page and improvise... do not reboot until icheck your work09:50
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jfrymikey did you get it working?09:52
mikeylol... no09:52
mikeystill trying things09:52
jfrymikey: I am pretty sure all you need to do is specify a user and group for the share to use to access files09:52
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mikeythis really should be a basic thing I would believe09:52
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mikeyas most companies must set this up is they serve via linux09:53
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mikeyok.  guide me plz09:53
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TheSpunkyLobsterLeeJunFan: so i'm doing sudo gpart /dev/hda -vv ?09:53
TheSpunkyLobsteror rather sudo gpart -vv /dev/hda09:53
jfrymikey: I think you need to use security = user and force user = user.with.access.to.shared.files09:54
mikeydo I make these settings via the share gui or via the conf file?09:54
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jfrymikey: I always change my samba config by editing the file itself, not sure if the gui allows these options.09:54
DavidHi guys, I updated my system yesterday and so the package "knetworkmanager" doesn't work (I'm using kubuntu 7.04).09:55
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mikeyok. so what syntax do I use, it which areas of the conf file?09:55
crwebDavid: same here.  just wait till its fixed09:55
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jfrylook that up... I'm not a pro... google smb.conf user security09:56
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mikeyok, ty09:56
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Davidcrweb: Thanks ;)09:57
jfrysetting security = share is a global setting... you may want to simply try force user and force group09:57
jfrymikey: a good example is here: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/manual4/smbconf.html... second share defination from the end of the page is a truely public share.09:59
cheeseboyanyone use superkaramba?09:59
cskjhey09:59
ewgeni90when going out the new ubuntu version 7.4?09:59
mikeylol... I reading that same urrrrl09:59
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TheSpunkyLobsterLeeJunFan: scanning now with those flags09:59
mikeybrb09:59
cheeseboyewgeni90 19th i think09:59
jfrymikey: you will need to use force user and force group to specify the user and group to use for access to files from that share.09:59
cskji installed java 6, and i installed frostwire afterwards, but when i try to open frostwire it doesn't...what do i do? can anyone help??10:00
ewgeni90thank you :)10:00
mikeyjfry: ok. ty10:00
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pascal_How do I activate zeroconf?10:00
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ewgeni90its free version ? same ubuntu 6.06 LTS?10:01
don_jr__can I download the edgy kubuntu iso and burn it from a console only?10:01
dell190geggam: Should i Pastebin the file?10:01
jfrymikey: I usually create a publicsmb user and give them 766 access to the folder and files I am sharing, then with force user and force group all users accessing the share are accessing the filesystem as publicsmb:publicsmb10:01
cheeseboyno one uses it :(10:01
Davidcrweb: The konqueror file manager... doesn't get the exact folder size.10:02
pascal_don_jr__:  you can burn it with cdrecord10:02
Davidthe tooltip10:02
don_jr__pascal and I can do that from terminal?10:02
pascal_yes10:02
crwebDavid: it does10:02
crwebDavid:  it just isn't recursive10:02
don_jr__pascal_ okay, can I download the iso from within terminal?10:02
pascal_don_jr__:  it cdrecord is installed  of course10:02
mikeyjfry: I think I can work through setting up a new user.  Bit of a noob, but learning10:02
pascal_yes: wget [url] 10:02
don_jr__pascal_ thanks10:03
cskjcan anyone help me with my java problem??10:03
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cskji installed java 610:03
pascal_cskj: probably there is someone, but you have to ask the question ;-)10:03
cskjand frostwire10:03
geggamhold on dell19010:03
cskjbut i can't get frostwire to open10:04
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BluesKajcskj, did you use adept or synaptic to install java ?10:04
cskjno...i installed java manually10:05
BluesKajgood, maybe a reboot ?10:05
cskji converted the rpm to a deb package n installed from there10:05
cskji did reboot10:05
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BluesKajyou din't need to use alien for java6 , it's available for ubuntu10:06
cskji couldn't find it in adept or synaptic10:06
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cskjso...i had to download an rpm n convert it10:06
BluesKajcskj , did you try the java site ?10:07
cskjyepp10:07
cskji used thier instructions to install10:07
BluesKajstrange10:07
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don_jr__does edgy come stock with nvidia drivers??10:07
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LeeJunFan!info sun-java6-jre | cskj10:08
ubotucskj: sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 6174 kB, installed size 14144 kB10:08
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don_jr__cskj you can get the java by opening the backports...yeah what ubotu said! lol10:08
acidtuxfdh10:08
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acidtuxdf10:08
acidtuxhello10:08
ewgeni90hi10:09
don_jr__hi10:09
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LeeJunFandon_jr__: not default nvidia proprietary, those you have to install yourself.10:09
LeeJunFan!nvidia10:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:09
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cskjmy prob is not getting it10:09
cskji have it n i have it installed10:09
ubuntu_hallo10:09
don_jr__LeeJunfan I know how to get them that way, I just wasn't sure if they were built in or not yet.10:09
cskji just can't get frostwire to run10:09
ubuntu_hello10:09
acidtuxi have problem for install ".run" files10:09
ubuntu_i have a big problem10:09
ubuntu_i want to install debian etch with kde10:09
don_jr__LeeJunFan but I have trouble with getting an updated version that will work, theold versions work, none of thenewer versions of the driver work.10:10
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ohmbris there a Brazilian chanel about kubuntu?10:10
ubuntu_can anyone help me?10:10
don_jr__acidtux sh filename.run10:10
Yorokobi!br | ohmbr10:10
ubotuohmbr: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.10:10
BluesKajintersting cskj, cuz there's a linux self extracting bin file that works directly in kubuntu :http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp10:10
ohmbrubotu: tks10:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:10
chemist109acidtux: Usually you do sudo sh filename.run10:11
don_jr__chemist109 yeah most of the time it'll tell you if ya need su power to do it, I always try without first till it tells me I have to! =_)10:11
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acidtuxi had testing on sudo "sh filenem.run" but he say "Can't open"10:12
acidtux:(10:12
cskjok thanx alot blueskaj10:12
cskji'll try this10:12
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acidtuxits for soft LOKI and game Return To Castel10:12
cskjshould i uninstall my previous installation of java first??10:12
acidtuxthx all ;)10:12
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ewgeni90why ubuntu dont have the automatic installation like in windows xp?10:14
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don_jr__cause it's not windowsxp??10:15
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ewgeni90yes... i know, but i dont know how to install programs10:15
don_jr__alot of stuff will auto install acctually, they just havn't implimented every single thing there is out there to install.10:15
don_jr__learn10:15
ewgeni90i have problems10:15
don_jr__most of them can be found in the packages that auto install themselvs with the right commands10:16
don_jr__what are you lookingto install?10:16
ewgeni90i want to install google Earth10:16
don_jr__don't know what that is, do you know if there is even a linux version of it?10:16
chemist109There's a linux version of google earth10:17
chemist109You need to be sure that you have hardware 3d acceleration10:18
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don_jr__Oh? the site says it's to comeout later this year, where is the linux version of it found?10:18
freechelmi_ewgeni90: I think google earth10:18
freechelmi_is in an additional repository10:18
freechelmi_but as it's a closed software10:19
freechelmi_it's not easy to istribute10:19
freechelmi_ewgeni90: just download google earth from the google website10:19
Sannehttp://earth.google.com/download-earth.html10:19
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freechelmi_and double click on it10:19
freechelmi_as easy as XP ,10:19
freechelmi_so i don't understand your question10:19
freechelmi_maybe with konqueror  ?10:20
ewgeni90no10:20
ewgeni90its not easy with Konsul10:20
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freechelmi_ewgeni90: you double clicked on the google installer ?10:21
karmoi have google earth installed from medibuntu repo10:21
freechelmi_it laucnhed the Konsole ?10:21
freechelmi_and then the GUI ?10:21
freechelmi_then click click ....10:21
ewgeni90ok10:21
freechelmi_ewgeni90: this was a question10:22
freechelmi_actually10:22
Sannekarmo: it's even available for dapper amd64... cool, thanks for mentioning.10:22
freechelmi_I did not even know about medibuntu10:22
freechelmi_But don't they do the same as the PLF ?10:23
karmodeb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free10:23
freechelmi_even if ubuntu plf is a bit dead10:23
ewgeni90its GoogleEarthLinux.bin file10:24
karmoi have this line in my sources.list10:24
Sannehowto is here: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php10:24
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freechelmi_ewgeni90: yep and you dble clicked on it ?10:27
freechelmi_Please if you want some help10:27
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freechelmi_be more precise10:27
ewgeni90it is now downlading10:27
ewgeni9065%10:27
freechelmi_ok , I m leaving then10:27
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ts_will someone help me set up my vid card driver so I have more than just the 600x800 resolution?10:28
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ewgeni90now its fine10:29
savetheWorldHelping a brazillian guy with Kubuntu - Any one know How I can look up the english version of this erro message?  (its from apt-get)    "locale: No foi possvel atribuir LC_ALL  localizao padro: Arquivo ou diretrio inexistente"...10:30
frojndcan someone help me on that one. I can't play avi file. What do I have to fix in kaffeine or gxine player. Here is the output of an error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15116/10:30
ewgeni90The file file:///home/ewgeni90/Desktop/GoogleEarthLinux.bin is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.10:31
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ewgeni90its have problems?10:33
XenThraLsavetheWorld: "locale: It wasn't possible to attribute(assign?) LC_ALL to the default location: File or directory doesn't exist"10:33
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savetheWorld10:33
savetheWorldlocale: It was not possible to attribute to LC_ALL to the localization standard: Archive or inexistent directory10:33
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savetheWorldXenThraL: Thanks! :-)10:33
Black_Catmiaow2all10:33
Yorokobifrojnd, have you looked at !avi yet?10:33
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XenThraLsavetheWorld: no problem10:34
frojndYorokobi>: what do u mean10:34
savetheWorldGreat minds think alike (or some approximation thereof)10:34
Yorokobi!avi | frojnd10:34
ubotufrojnd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:34
savetheWorld!locale10:34
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf10:34
frojndoh u mean codecs10:34
frojndother avi can be played..10:35
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Black_Catfor those who need avi support, libxine-extracodecs should suit them well.10:35
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chemist109ewgeni90: you should follow Sanne's suggestion and follow the directions here: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php10:36
ewgeni90ok ,thank you :)10:37
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calamarihi10:37
chemist109ewgeni90: after you do what's on that page, do this:  sudo apt-get install googleearth googleearth-data10:37
Sanneewgeni90: if you haven't done already, youmight also read over this introduction how to install software in ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories10:38
ShinigamiHi all, can some kind soul direct me to a good current HOW-TO/Tutorial on setting up/syncing a WM5 PDA?10:38
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calamariwhen I boot up and get to the graphical login screen, my screen refresh rate is correct.  But when I log in, KDE changes my refresh rate to a low interlaced rate.  What could be changing it?10:39
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ewgeni90ok, i updating my system .10:40
Black_Cat!resolution10:40
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:40
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calamariFix this by running the gconf-editor tool as a normal user and altering the screen settings within Gnome's XML configuration registry to equal the /etc/X11/xorg.conf settings:10:41
calamaristartx gconf-editor10:41
calamarithat doesn't seem to apply for kde10:41
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ewgeni90in the terminal : sudo apt-get google earth?10:43
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chemist109ewgeni90: sudo apt-get install googleearth googleearth-data10:44
calamarianyone know where kde would store its video resolution and refresh rate settings?  I don't mean xorg.conf, I mean for KDE10:44
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chemist109calamari: could try kmenu>system settings>monitor & display10:44
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calamarichemist109: yeah that doesn't work right because I'm using the nvidia driver10:45
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calamaribut maybe that will get me closer10:45
ewgeni90error: E: the computer dont see the file with this name10:46
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chemist109calamari: did you install nvidia-settings?  If so, did you try using that?10:46
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calamariI'm really just trying to find out some KDE information here10:46
calamariI was hoping this was stored on disk, in a file somewhere10:47
yigalI have just decided to move from GNOME to KDE as I find KDE to be much more user friendly for doing "advanced" work.  Why is GNOME so popular these days?  Novell, Fedora, and Ubuntu have all adopted it as the GUI of choice?  Why do you think this is the case?10:47
Kyralcalamari: Search through ~/.kde10:47
calamariKyral: for what?  hehe10:47
binaHi, im using the upgrade tool to upgrade kubuntu, but on configuring libssl0.9.8, dpkg has put up a screen requiring me to click ok, but i dont seem to be able to, anybody know what i can do?10:47
calamariI don't know what format the info is in10:47
Kyralyigal: I dunno...I heard that in Europe KDE is more popular10:47
Kyralcalamari: Practically everything in ~/.kde is a text file10:48
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calamariKyral: that's not exactly what I meant10:48
Kyral???10:48
calamarigrep -r <magic here> *10:48
Kyralhmm10:48
Kyralah!10:48
yigalKyral: KDE has lovely sounds, is an easier place to do CLI+GUI with Yakuke installed by default. Its strange how there seams to be so much funding into GNOME right now. I am glad that Adobe uses QT and other businesses.10:49
Kyralin a terminal have watch running lsof so you can catch files opening10:49
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Kyraland then run KControl and modify the settings :D10:49
KyralIf you are quick you should be able to see KControl modify the file where it puts the settings10:49
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calamariKyral: good idea10:50
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Kyralmake sure you grep out lsof so you can get the stuff you want...10:50
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Flare183How can I mount my GPX Portable MP3 Player?10:51
yigalFlare183: it depends on what file system it is10:51
yigalFlare183: Also what you want to use it for10:51
Flare183vfat10:52
Flare183music10:52
yigalFlare183: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/"player" "some directory you make"10:52
yigalFlare183: although I think amarok can do this for you10:53
ewgeni90the new version of kubuntu the installation from BOOT?10:53
Flare183but my computer doesn't even recongize that it is there10:53
yigalFlare183: I doubt this10:53
Flare183don't10:53
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yigalFlare183: please ls /dev > old_dev10:54
Sannecalamari: I have no idea what this file ist for, there's a "refresh" setting in it: ~/.kde/share/config/displayconfigrc10:54
yigalFlare183: I assume you have your player in10:54
Flare183yes10:54
yigalFlare183: after you do this then, pull out the player10:54
calamariSanne: cool thanks10:54
yigalFlare183: cat /dev > new_dev10:55
Sannecalamari: you're welcome10:55
calamariSanne: unfortunately it says refresh=85 :P10:55
Sannecalamari: same here10:55
yigalthen $diff old_dev new_dev10:55
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Flare183?10:55
yigalFlare183: excuse me is it a usb device10:55
Flare183yes10:55
yigalFlare183: if so then just lsusb10:56
yigalFlare183: $lsusb10:56
Sannecalamari: it matches my actual refresh rate, though, so it might mean something after all...10:56
yigalFlare183: it is not there?10:56
Flare183http://de.pastebin.ca/43522610:56
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calamariSanne: yeah my refresh rate should be 8510:56
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calamariSanne: wish it was .. hehe10:56
calamarikinda gives me a headache10:56
Flare183it's not there10:57
yigalFlare183: you are sure it is vfat10:57
Flare183yes10:57
Flare183it has to be if windows recongizes it there10:57
Sannecalamari: hmmm... never heard about kde doing something different from xorg.conf. If nobody knows here, maybe try to ask in #kde?10:57
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calamariSanne: yeah they didn't know either.. guess it's a stumper!10:57
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Sannecalamari: oh... then I would search launchpad for possible bug reports about this, and the ubuntu/kubuntu forums. But maybe you already did all this, if so, sorry...10:58
Flare183yigal:> still there?10:59
calamariSanne: yeah there's a bug report, but no activity on it10:59
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calamariSanne: but I thought maybe it was really just a misconfigured file10:59
yigalFlare183: yes, I am trying to understand your situation is very very weird10:59
chemist109Flare183: When you plug in your player in Windows, does it get a drive letter (D: E:, whatever)?10:59
Flare183yes10:59
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Flare183I think drive G:10:59
Sannecalamari: ah, well, mostly it is ;)10:59
yigalFlare183: your linux box doesn't see your usb at a low level hardware level10:59
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yigalFlare183: It seems almost as if it is kernel related11:00
skreechI think my mouse just crashed the screen :-(11:00
Flare183yigal:> soo..11:00
skreechI was dragging something and visually it stopped part way11:00
skreechnow I can't click, right click or type11:00
yigalFlare183: I can't help11:00
yigalFlare183: are you using a generic kernel?11:01
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Flare183both 386 and generic11:01
Flare183no 38611:01
Flare183yeah11:01
Flare183that's it11:01
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yigalFlare183: have you checked the forums Ubuntu and Kubuntu on this issue?11:01
Flare183not the entire fourms11:02
yigalFlare183: I had an issue before with an early kernel that failed to load a usb flash drive but this was a while ago what version of the kernel are you using?11:02
yigalFlare183: uname -r11:04
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Flare183yigal:> nope I can put my usb flash drive and it works fine11:04
yigalFlare183: what format did you partition your flash drive?11:04
Flare183vfat11:04
Flare183kernel: 2.6.17-11-38611:05
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Flare183got that11:06
Flare183?11:06
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yigalFlare183: yes11:08
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lz1gjdlz1gjd@Kubuntu610:~$ sudo su11:08
lz1gjdsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 12 01:12:51 200711:08
lz1gjdcould any1 help me , it should be really simple11:08
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silence_hello.......11:10
yknottturn off your time machine ;)11:10
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silence_im new to kubuntu and i have a question11:10
lz1gjdyknott: :)11:10
Yorokobilz1gjd, I have what you need, one sec11:10
silence_for some reason my desktop is distorted.......11:11
silence_its over to the left11:11
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yigalFlare183:your music player should be /dev/sde111:11
Flare183yigal:> how do you know?11:11
yigalFlare183: do you have this device in /dev/ ?11:11
grgshello chanel11:12
Yorokobilz1gjd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15128/11:12
Flare183yigal:> i have sda11:12
yigalFlare183: good11:12
lz1gjdYorokobi: thanx11:12
Flare183yigal:> does that help11:12
yigalFlare183: when you type df, do you see /dev/sda[0-9]  being used?11:12
Flare183yigal:> nope11:13
yigalFlare183: then this is probably your device11:13
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yigalFlare183: please type $ls /dev/sd*11:13
yigalFlare183: do you only have /dev/sda?11:13
lz1gjdonly little prob happens when try to change date/time from the panel, says conversation with su failed11:14
yigalFlare183: are you there?11:14
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Flare183yigal:> crap11:15
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Flare183nothing there11:15
Flare183sda is not there11:15
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yigalFlare183: its ok, I want you to pull out the usb cable of the mp3 player and put it back into the computer11:15
jhutchinsyigal: df will not show unmounted devices.  fdisk -l will.11:16
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Yorokobilz1gjd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15129/11:16
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Flare183just pull the cable out of both the computer and out of the mp3 player11:16
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yigalFlare183: yes I want to know what was mounted not unmounted11:16
Yorokobilz1gjd, try the Alternate option11:16
moparisthebesthow do you find the UUID of a harddrive?11:16
Flare183yigal:> ok now what11:17
yigalFlare183: to find what your computer knows about type ls /dev/sd*11:17
yigalFlare183: anything?11:17
Flare183nope11:17
Flare183nothing11:17
Flare183want me to put in my flash drive?11:17
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: Really only useful if you are managing networked storage.11:17
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: Why do you need it?11:18
yigalFlare183: would hurt to check11:18
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cskj#java11:18
ssickleHas anyone been having problems with xine on feisty lately?11:18
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moparisthebestjhutchins, im mounting various devices with fstab, and the names change every boot depending on whether I have my usb devices plugged in11:18
Flare183yigal:> ok now i have sda1 and sda11:18
ssickleMy installation keeps freezing up.11:19
cskjis there a channel that deals with java?11:19
moparisthebestmounting by uuid would fix that problem right?11:19
moparisthebestprogramming java cskj ? ##java11:19
yigalFlare183: so your box obviously recognizes the Flash but not your MP3 player11:19
Flare183yigal:> yep11:19
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: Hm.  Might, but I'm not sure how the system cross-references that.11:19
lz1gjdYorokobi: thx and have a good night (day deppending on which side of the globe you are :)11:20
yigalFlare183: check out cat /proc/scsi/scsi11:20
moparisthebestit worked in grub for the boot drive jhutchins, but i dont know how to get the UUID of my other devices11:20
Yorokobilz1gjd, you're welcome11:20
yigalFlare183: do you have anything in there?11:20
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cskjah no..java runtime environment jre moparisthebest11:21
Flare183yigal:> yep my flash drive11:21
ssicklethe version says v0.99.5cvs on the AMD64 dist.11:21
moparisthebestoh, whats the problem with it cskj ?11:21
yigalFlare183: but do you have the MP3 player stuck in also?11:21
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: That really is quite a bright idea to solve a pretty universal problem, let me do some research on it.11:21
cskjwell i installed jre 611:21
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Black_Catanyone seen something like WinOrganizer for Kubuntu, except for Kontakt?11:21
Flare183yigal:> no11:21
cskjand i installed frostwire also11:21
cskjbut frostwire just won't open11:21
ninHerohi all11:21
cskji can't c what the problem is11:21
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yigalFlare183: put the MP3 player into a usb slot and $cat /proc/scsi/scsi11:22
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: I know you can use volume labels in fstab11:22
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Flare183with the flash drive still in there11:22
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yigalFlare183: no eject the flash drive, pull out the flash and put in the MP3 player :)11:22
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moparisthebestyou can jhutchins ? that would work as well :)11:23
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moparisthebesti found an article on it for redhat, but it doesnt seem to apply: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/sysadmin-guide/ch-devlabel.html11:23
Flare183yigal:> ok now what?11:23
yigalFlare183: is the MP3 player attached to the computer?11:24
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: sudo vol_id -u device11:24
Flare183yigal:> no11:24
Flare183yigal:> it is connected to the computer11:24
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yigalFlare183: ok, now run cat /proc/scsi/scsi11:24
Flare183nothing11:25
Flare183yigal:> nothing11:25
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don_jr__where can I set kwin?11:25
yigalFlare183: you don't have a printer or a cd player?11:26
Flare183yigal:> yeah11:26
Flare183yigal:> i have both11:26
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yigalFlare183: are they internal?11:26
jhutchinsmoparisthebest: Unfortunately, I've hosed my usb system with a problem network adapter.11:26
Flare183just not connected11:26
yigalFlare183: is the cd internal11:26
Flare183cd rom drive is internal11:26
Flare183dvd as well11:26
moparisthebestill give it a try and tell you how it works jhutchins :)11:27
gemidjy_anyone using Beryl with Aquamarine ?11:27
yigalFlare183: you No device that show up when you run cat /proc/scsi/scsi11:27
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Flare183yigal:> scanner not connected, printer not connected11:27
yigalFlare183: but your cdrom should come up11:28
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Flare183yigal:> no because it's not mounted i guess11:28
Flare183yigal:> neither of them are11:28
yigalit shouldn't have to be11:29
yigalFlare183: they shouldn't have to be mounted11:29
liamcan anyone help me on libusb and libmtp installations11:29
Flare183yigal:> none of them come up11:29
yigalFlare183: I am sorry11:29
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liamanyone?11:30
Flare183yigal:> what?11:30
yigalFlare183: I am sorry that I can't help you11:30
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liamcan no one help me11:30
cskjuhm... can i have some help installing java please?11:30
Flare183yigal:> it's alright i find the answer if god wants me too11:30
yigal:)11:31
liamthen can anyone tell me where i can get help on the installation of these files11:31
liamplease11:31
frojndhello how can somemone connet using my desktop? I can see krfb... I create personal invitation and user connects on my IP only problem is how can I forward port for this? cause I have router and in krdf there isn't any port or is it: 192.168.2.11:0  "o"  ?11:32
Flare183liam:> umm what the probelm11:32
liamok im trying to install libmtp11:32
jhutchins!java | liam11:32
ubotuliam: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.11:32
liamwhich im guessing id need libusb to11:32
liami dont need java11:32
Flare183hold on11:33
jhutchinsliam: aptitude install libmtp211:33
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jhutchinscskj: Please see last message from ubotu11:33
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jhutchinsliam: aptitude will install dependendencies for you.11:33
Flare183liam:> what!?11:33
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Flare183yigal:> dude I think i just found my answer11:34
liamwhere do i find that "aptitude11:34
liamive tried adept it didnt work11:34
yigalFlare183: awesome11:34
Flare183liam:> yeah hold on you got gdebi11:34
liamsorry flare11:34
Flare183liam:> yeah hold on you got gdebi11:34
yigalFlare183: if it works please tell me what you needed to do11:34
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Yorokobiliam, in konsole: 'sudo apt-get install libmtp2'11:34
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Flare183yigal:> I thing i might have11:34
Flare183mtp11:34
Flare183media transportation protocal11:35
Flare183libmtp211:35
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Flare183liam:> ok do this11:35
yigalFlare183: ahh, amarok should do it then11:35
liamit said it couldnt find the package11:35
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Flare183sudo apt-get install libmtp211:35
liami tried that it said Couldnt find package libmtp211:36
liambrb11:36
yigalliam: what repositories do you have11:36
Flare183sudo apt-get update11:36
Flare183sudo apt-get install libmtp211:36
liamim not sure what my repos are11:37
liamif there the right ones11:37
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liamrunning sudo apt-get update now11:38
Flare183yigal:> you think i might have to reboot for it to implament the libary11:39
Flare183yigal:> you think i might have to reboot for it to implament the library11:39
liamits taking its time11:39
yigalFlare183: unlikely, but by restarting it should work11:39
liamis this the same as fetching updates in adept11:39
michielvhi I have a question about 'hibernate computer'11:40
Flare183yigal:> yeah well this will give you the info we might need11:40
Flare183sorry wrong person11:40
liamok now what do i do11:40
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Flare183liam:> sudo apt-get install libmtp211:40
michielvIf I hibernate I lose my interface for my internet connection, how can I make this active again?11:41
liamit says couldnt find package libmtp211:41
yigalliam: you need to add some repositories to your system to select files from11:41
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yigalliam: do you have multiverse and universe repositories open11:41
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liamwhen i ran the update it said some index files failed to down load11:41
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liamyeah ive had this problem before and i was told my repos were fine11:42
yigalliam: then u should $sudo apt-get update, again11:42
Flare183which ones11:42
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liamwhich ones?11:42
Flare183which index files11:42
moparisthebestit all works jhutchins, by label and by uuid :)11:42
moparisthebestthanks11:42
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liamim doing it again just takes a while11:43
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liami have the tar.gz files for libmtp and libusb just couldn install them11:43
Flare183then compile them11:43
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liami tried that i uncompressed them opened a terminal there11:44
liamran configure11:44
liamthen make11:44
liamand then it brought an error up on install11:44
pagan0nei just upgraded to feisty fawn beta, and was wondering where /dev/hdb moved to? i tried to mount my ntfs drive, and i dont see any hd* in /dev anymore....11:44
Sanneliam: libmtp2 is in universe (in edgy). You really should use packages from the repositories, if they're available.11:44
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liamFailed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Could not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (88.191.33.6), connection timed out11:45
liamthats what it says when i run sudo-apt update11:45
Yorokobiliam, packages.freecontrib.org has been offline for months.11:45
Sanneliam: that's not an official repository, and won't affect the installation of libmtp2. check if you have universe enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list11:45
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michielvIf I hibernate I lose my interface for my internet connection, how can I make this active again?11:46
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Yorokobimichielv, one way: open konsole and type 'sudo ifconfig up'11:46
liamok sanne: i have the sources.list file open11:47
liami dont know how to uncomment the required lines to make it universe11:47
Yorokobimichielv, another way in konsole, 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'11:47
pagan0necan someone help me mount a ntfs drive in feisty fawn beta??11:47
liami know that will sound stupid11:47
michielvok Yorokobi I'll try this when I'm offline :)11:47
Sanneliam: paste it to paste.ubuntu-nl.org so we can have a look11:47
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Sanneliam: it's not stupid, we all have been new to this sometimes :)11:48
liamhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15131/11:49
liamthats the url11:49
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Yorokobimichielv, I would use the 2nd option first. Correction to the first: 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up' (if you're ethernet adapter is eth0)11:49
michielvit's a rausb011:50
liamany idea11:50
liam*s11:50
Yorokobisudo ifconfig rausb0 up then11:50
Sanneliam: seems you have it enabled, see lines 16, and 22 for multiverse. Maybe libmtp2 is not in dapper, let's check on packages.ubuntu.com.11:50
gemidjy_when I use KSnapshot to make screenshot of a screen region, I get some nasty line through the diagonal of the region square, here: http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/8823/shot1hr7.png11:51
Sanneliam: while you have it open, I would comment (put a "#" before) the lines 26 and 27, if those repositories are offline, like somebody said.11:52
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michielvdoes somebody know if WPA will be fully supported in release 7.04 of Ubuntu?11:52
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Yorokobiliam, here's a cleaner version of you sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15133/11:53
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liamthanks but theres only 9 here, im a assuming the others were not needed11:53
Yorokobiliam, I consolidated the separate multiverse & universe lines to single lines and removed the deprecated freecontrib.org lines11:54
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liamthanks11:55
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liamyorokobi: i cant edit sources.list in kate, i know i need to be the super user11:56
liamhow do i do that in konsole11:56
Yorokobiliam, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:56
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TheSpunkyLobsterhey all... i was getting help using gpart earlier to try and recover a lost partition on my laptop, i've finished a scan now, and need to try and mount the partition but can't remember how to do it11:57
liamthanks i need to know more basic command lines if you know of a good tut that would be cool11:58
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liamokay with the new repos list i tried install libmtp2 and it still didnt work12:00
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mikeywhat a pain in the arse12:02
mikeystill no joy getting linux to talk to windows12:02
Yorokobiliam, it doesn't look like its in the dapper repos12:02
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liami tried that pacakages.ubuntu12:02
liamand found it12:03
liamit has three dependencies12:03
Yorokobiliam, for edgy or dapper?12:03
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Sanneliam: I dodn't find libmtp2 for dapper on packages.ubuntu.com12:04
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liamim sure im edgy12:04
liamhow will i check12:04
liami found it on edgy12:04
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evfreshman2025Hey can someone help me out?12:04
Yorokobiliam, your sources.list is all dapper, not edgy12:04
Davidsomebody here uses kmediafactory... when I try import .avi file... can't make the DVD, somebody here can help me...12:04
Sanneliam: your sources list said dapper... and also, type in terminal: cat /etc/lsb-release12:05
liamok so does that mean i need to update before i can install it12:05
liamyeah sorry its dapper12:05
liamso where do i go from here12:06
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Yorokobiliam, 1) figure out why the build failed and fix it or 2) upgrade to edgy12:07
evfreshman2025hey can someone answer this for me12:08
Yorokobi!ask | evfreshman202512:08
ubotuevfreshman2025: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:08
evfreshman2025before i can install programs with Adept, do i have to install Adept updates if i have some?12:08
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liamok doesnt an upgrade mean re installing the whole iso12:08
Yorokobiliam, no, there are a couple ways to do it without a format/reinstall12:09
liamok12:09
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liamwhat would they be12:09
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Yorokobievfreshman2025, you can do both concurrently12:09
shadowhywinddoes anyone know where the kubuntu logo is located, the one from startup?12:10
mikeyany way to change the clock format (24-hour --> standard)?12:10
Yorokobimikey, right click the clock -> Date & Time format -> Time & Dates tab12:11
Yorokobiliam, one sec, I am checking the ubuntu wiki :)12:11
liamk12:11
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TheSpunkyLobsterhey all... i was getting help using gpart earlier to try and recover a lost partition on my laptop, i've finished a scan now, and need to try and specify and then mount the partition but can't remember how to do it12:11
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mikeywent there..didn't see how to change 15:12 hours to 3:12 PM12:12
Yorokobiliam, here's one way https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuUpgrade12:12
Yorokobimikey, Time Format : pH:MM:SS AMPM12:13
stevethepiratecheers people12:13
evfreshman2025Is it true that before you can install anything, you first have to install updates that are needed? with Adept12:13
liamok ill try this12:13
liamthanks12:13
Yorokobievfreshman2025, no ... you can do both at the same time.12:13

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