[12:14] <confuzed> HaSH: looks like it's still trying to install some crap from that other repository.
[12:15] <meo> ok, I'll try that
[12:15] <HaSH> confuzed, i know. but i did apt-get clean then apt-get update. it shouldnt be
[12:15] <confuzed> try using aptitude to install these... this way you can remove that 3.97-0ubuntu0seveas1 from the list of items to be installed.
[12:16] <confuzed> Thats the only reason I like aptitude over apt-get.... I can modify the list of packages to be installed much more easily
[12:16] <HaSH> confuzed, ok let me give it a go
[12:16] <confuzed> run aptitude in GUI mode...  just sudo aptitude
[12:16] <confuzed> meo: how's it coming.. I gotta run, but was hoping to get you on track
[12:16] <HaSH> hm how do i have it select a list..or do i have to manualy select each package i want to install
[12:17] <meo> adept is a folder right?
[12:17] <confuzed> HaSH you manually select the packages to install... it will resolve dependancies.
[12:18] <confuzed> HaSH type '/' to search for a package '+' to install it '-' to remove '_' to purge 'g' to go when your ready
[12:18] <confuzed> once you hit go, it will show you what changes will be made... you can then modify them
[12:19] <confuzed> oh and ':' will undo any changes to the package
[12:19] <HaSH> confuzed, ok selecting them now..there was a few i need
[12:19] <confuzed> meo: adept is a program... under K->System->Adept Manger
[12:20] <cskj> hi guys...i am using kubuntu 6.10, i just installed it n i like mozilla firefox alot. I installed version 1.5.6 using synaptic package manager but version 2.0 is out, how can i upgrade to this version
[12:20] <meo> ok, yes i see it. Sorry, I'm still a linux newb :)
[12:20] <confuzed> meo: even easier... use K->System->Software Sources
[12:20] <eljefe> Hello does anyone know much about the new Feisty, or about the Ubuntu build process in general?  I was trying to run VMWarePlayer with a virtual Debian (no X) machine and my whole system pretty much slowed to a stop.  Is this a bug worth reporting, or are there optimizations yet to be done before the final release?
[12:21] <confuzed> meo: there you just check a box for universe.
[12:21] <confuzed> meo: then use adept, do an update, and select the app to install, and apply.
[12:21] <Neil-> Anyone know a good partition editor? Gparted says it cant display 123 fat partitions, only 1 or 2..
[12:22] <lol> the ubuntu relese 19. april is it heurd 6?
[12:22] <confuzed> meo: gotta run... you will figure it out... if you need help, google: installing packages kubuntu
[12:22] <meo> ok, thanks for your help
[12:22] <eljefe> lol: thats the final
[12:22] <eljefe> meo:  whats up?
[12:22] <_spaz> how do i change my default boot/shutdown splash?
[12:22] <lol> but now there is only heurd 5?
[12:22] <confuzed> Good luck all... hope you have better luck with aptitude HaSH
[12:22] <_spaz> and i don't mean the login splash
[12:22] <meo> nothin much
[12:23] <eljefe> lol:  there will be a Beta but only one; not sure if it is released yet or not
[12:23] <eljefe> meo: don't need assistance?
[12:23] <lol> i have 7.04 now but when the relese come should i re-install? or can it upgrade? or do i nn to do anything?
[12:24] <meo> confuzed said to check a box for universe, but I can't find the universe package
[12:24] <eljefe> lol: good question, not sure!  there will probably be release notes when its released, and it'll say in there
[12:25] <lol> ok thx
[12:25] <brytanix> hi
[12:25] <eljefe> meo: Universe isn't a package, its a Repository where you get additional software/packages.  In K->System->Adept you can View->Manage Repositories; turn on Universe there, then select [Fetch Updates] 
[12:26] <eljefe> meo: then you have access to more software
[12:29] <meo> ok, I'm in manager, but I don't see a box to check for universe :(
[12:29] <eljefe> meo: get it?
[12:31] <cskj> ok so guys i'm tryin to upgrade my version of firefox
[12:31] <cskj> can anyone help me
[12:31] <eljefe> meo: about 1/2 way dow it says universe in the 'Components' column; basically I would select any line that starts with '#deb' and right-click it to 'enable' which should remove the # at the beginning of the line so it now starts with 'deb'
[12:31] <cskj> i'm using version 1.5.6
[12:32] <cskj> and i wanna install version 2.0
[12:32] <cskj> i'm not very good at installing using konsole
[12:32] <gnomefreak> cskj: on dapper?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> !firefox | cskj
[12:32] <ubotu> cskj: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:32] <gnomefreak> theres the how to
[12:32] <cskj> no it's not
[12:33] <cskj> i am using kubuntu version 6.10
[12:33] <cskj> and the default web browser was konqeurer
[12:33] <cskj> thanx i'll try that tho
[12:33] <meo> ok, so if i just enable everything and "fetch updates" I'll be good right?
[12:34] <thespark_> hey! anyone can help me with some wlan problems?
[12:35] <eljefe> meo: yep!
[12:35] <meo> Thank you :)
[12:36] <eljefe> meo: one caveat with my help -- you help someone else along the way!
[12:37] <eljefe> !wlan | thespark_
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <eljefe> lol
[12:37] <eljefe> thespark_: whats up?
[12:37] <eljefe> !wifi | thespark_
[12:37] <ubotu> thespark_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:38] <thespark_> :) my stupid dell laptop dont want to connect to my primary wlan(althought all other wlans are working great) and i just cant find out why
[12:39] <eljefe> does your wlan have encryption?  WPA or WEP?
[12:39] <thespark_> ifconfig and iwconfig say i got connection. but ping doesnt work for router ip
[12:39] <_spaz> how do i change my default boot/shutdown splash?
[12:39] <thespark_> no i reseted my router to factory to find the problem
[12:39] <_spaz> and i don't mean the login splash, i mean the thing before that -_-
[12:40] <_spaz> instead of a progress bar and the word "kubuntu," i want a different theme
[12:40] <eljefe> thespark_: sorry mate i am not sure... ask again, someone here may know; if not tonight, another day...
[12:40] <tero> I would like to know how to see progress behing the splash..
[12:40] <eljefe> _spaz: no idea mate sorry, i am sure its somewhere but likely *not* in a GUI configuration
[12:40] <_spaz> it's not -_-
[12:40] <_spaz> i've looked
[12:41] <_spaz> though it damn well should be
[12:41] <_spaz> oops...
[12:41] <_spaz> sorry >_>
[12:41] <kaader> k
[12:41] <stdin> _spaz: seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto ?
[12:41] <kaader> hallo?
[12:41] <thespark_> thx eljefe
[12:41] <_spaz> stdin: LEMME FIND OUT
[12:41] <_spaz> oops
[12:41] <_spaz> sorry
[12:41] <_spaz> caps ftl
[12:42] <SlimG> thespark_: Have you've tried to just power off your wlan router, wait some seconds and then power it back on?
[12:42] <thespark_> SlimG: restarted my router 9999 times this day i think ;)
[12:43] <unix_infidel> time to get a new router.
[12:43] <unix_infidel> or make your own :)
[12:43] <_spaz> haha
[12:43] <_spaz> that would be so hard :p
[12:43] <unix_infidel> make you rown router?
[12:43] <unix_infidel> your own*
[12:44] <_spaz> stdin: does that apply to edgy too?
[12:44] <SlimG> thespark_: You might be able to flash your router to a newer firmware if available
[12:44] <unix_infidel> routers are cheap.
[12:44] <SlimG> thespark_: btw 9999 restarts should suffice ;)
[12:45] <_spaz> and another thing...i know almost no C -_-
[12:45] <thespark_> SlimG: this is right. i also tried. but my router (smc barricade 2804wprb-g) doens't accept all my tries to get him a newer firmware...
[12:46] <stdin> _spaz: I think you need *some* programing experience to do it, tho there are probably pre-made themes out there somewhere
[12:46] <thespark_> the things that disturbs me is: my desktop has no prob to get an ip from my router. also 3 other laptops i tried worked great.. just MY notebook won't work
[12:46] <_spaz> stdin: well maybe i could do it...but i'd need some example code
[12:48] <Jucato> customizing usplash? I don't think you need to know C.
[12:49] <_spaz> Jucato: explain
[12:51] <SlimG> thespark_: It's a known problem that certain wlan chips just works poorly together, you can build your own wlan router or buy a Linksys WRT54GL if you can't make it work
[12:51] <Jucato> not absolutely sure, but last time I checked, there were utilities to convert your images/animation to code so that you don't have to code them yourself
[12:51] <SlimG> thespark_: or change your wlan card
[12:51] <stdin> _spaz: agg, Jucato is right, pngtobogl does that for you
[12:51] <thespark_> SlimG: on a notebook?
[12:51] <stdin> s/agg/ahh/
[12:52] <unix_infidel> most notebooks have modular minipci slots for changing wlan and BT cards.
[12:52] <thespark_> i think i just bye me some new routers.... maybe 10-20. on of these MUST work
[12:53] <_spaz> stdin: what's pingtobogl?
[12:53] <SlimG> thespark_: most laptops have miniPCI wlan cards, you can remove your current card and replace it with a Intel 2200GB (works great for me), I guess replacing your router is the cheapest option
[12:53] <SlimG> and the easiest
[12:53] <Jucato> _spaz: it's in the guide
[12:54] <thespark_> yipp think so too. i got two @home but my desktop dont wanna work with the one my laptop works with and i want to syncronisize homefolders..
[12:54] <genii> WRT54 series is great. no complaints cept some have half the ram (series 5)
[12:55] <_spaz> Jucato: guide???
 _spaz: seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto ?
[12:55] <Filthpig> hmmmm, soon my kubuntu will look exactly like mac os x *grin*
[12:56] <Filthpig> but kxkicker won't work :(
[12:56] <_spaz> i saw that -_-
[12:56] <unix_infidel> 
[12:56] <_spaz> i am no C programmer, as i said
[12:56] <Jucato> did you actually browse through the page?
[12:56] <SlimG> genii: the series 5 is the old series am I right? so if buyng a new WRT54 you wouldn't encounter this issue with half memory size?
[12:57] <Filthpig> !baghira
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baghira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <Filthpig> !osx
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about osx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <Filthpig> !kxkicker
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kxkicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:58] <genii> SlimG There were 8Mb on the originals then they cut it down on later models. I forget the exact model names (the part after the 54G) But they also run some alternate bios, just not as flexible like openwrt
[12:59] <Filthpig> hmm
[12:59] <SlimG> genii: ok, thanks for clearing that up for me, luckily I've managed to get a hold of the unlimited version myself
[01:00] <genii> SlimG Anyhow, on the sticker on bottom they say the specific submodel version, so you can chack easily enough
[01:00] <genii> *check* typos
[01:01] <_spaz> Jucato: yeah, i did
[01:01] <Filthpig> !kxdocker
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kxdocker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <Filthpig> hm
[01:01] <_spaz> Jucato: i don't use dapper =P
[01:01] <Jucato> _spaz: so now you know what pngtobogl is?
[01:01] <_spaz> Jucato: yes, now i do
[01:02] <johey> I have lost my konqueror. Maybe because I tried to update to feisty and failed. Now I'm trying to run edgy, but konqueror has broken dependencies. Depends: kcontrol (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu13really3.5.5 is to be installed, kdebase-kio-plugins (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu13really3.5.5 is to be installed,kdesktop (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu13really3.5.5 is to be installed, kfind (=
[01:02] <johey> 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu13really3.5.5 is to be installed
[01:02] <_spaz> O_o
[01:02] <johey> What to do?
[01:02] <_spaz> pastebin, please
[01:02] <_spaz> Jucato: sorry for giving you a headache =p
[01:03] <genii> johey you can specify version on apt-get like:   apt-get install <somepackage>=<version you want installed>
[01:03] <johey> _spaz: It's only those four dependencies. I didn't think they would override one line. :/
[01:03] <Jucato> _spaz: "The implementation for usplash changed from Dapper to Edgy (6.06 - 6.10) and therefore the technique also changed for adjusting it." - from the guide
[01:03] <johey> genii: Oh. Cool.
[01:03] <_spaz> Jucato: i know
[01:03] <genii> eg: apt-get install kcontrol>3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4
[01:03] <Filthpig> can somebody help me wit this? I've tried to install kxdocker with apt, but I get some error, so now I want to install from source (which normally is piece of cake) but when I do sudo make, I get
[01:03] <Filthpig>  xeplugin_mouse.lo -lXtst libkxdocker.la
[01:03] <Filthpig> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXtst
[01:03] <genii> eg: apt-get install kcontrol>3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4 or use =
[01:04] <Filthpig> hm, not supposed to get those on new lines, sorry
[01:04] <_spaz> Jucato: i don't use dapper...i use feisty >_>
[01:04] <Jucato> feisty uses the same usplash as edgy
[01:04] <Jucato> (usplash program)
[01:04] <Jucato> and that guide was updated for Edgy, not Dapper
[01:04] <Jucato> it just mentions special instructions for dapper
[01:05] <_spaz> Jucato: i see now...resume your other support stuffs
[01:05] <_spaz> and ty
[01:05] <_spaz> ^^
[01:05] <Jucato> genii: won't that be a bit difficult to do, considering his problems is from a dist-upgrade that didn't finish?
[01:06] <johey> genii: Hm. What does "is to be installed" mean? Does it mean that kcontrol 3.5.5 is required but 3.5.6 is installed, or is it vice versa?
[01:06] <genii> johey What it means is that there is a default version that it likes first but you can override that like I showed
[01:07] <johey> Hm. Seems like I have many programs that are in too new versions.
[01:08] <johey> Is there a simple way to downgrade all packages to the most recent that is in the current apt sources, even though newer has been installed before?
[01:08] <genii> eg:  Depends: kcontrol (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu13really3.5.5       means it prefers 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu13really3.5.5   but you could put the other one if you want to
[01:09] <johey> genii: But there seems to be other dependency conflicts when I try to downgrade kcontrol.
[01:10] <genii> johey If this happened from a broken dist-upgrade you really need to try and run it again
[01:11] <johey> genii: Run what again?
[01:11] <genii> the dist-upgrade
[01:12] <johey> genii: Ah. Well, it was not really a broken dist-upgrade. Just a dist-upgrade that I was not completely pleased with, so I wanted to downgrade again.
[01:14] <Jucato> kinda hard to do I guess :)
[01:15] <genii> The problem now is that you have a lot of mixed packages. Did you alter the sources.list and change the dist name from one to the next when you did the upgrade?
[01:15] <os2mac> anyone ever have problems with knetwork manager showing the incorrect status.
[01:15] <Jucato> hm... :)
[01:17] <genii> johey Anyhow, if the method you did involved replacing for instance Dapper with Edgy in sources.list, you can change it back, then do again an apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:17] <genii> If it was from Edgy to Feisty thats more problemmatic
[01:18] <johey> genii: Well... I did that too. I have done very nasty things to my system, I believe. :)
[01:18] <genii> heh :)
[01:18] <johey> genii: However, now everything works as I want it too, except for the missing konqueror.
[01:18] <johey> Jucato: :)
[01:20] <genii> johey Well, if only the one app, then you may chance the forcing version way i showed earlier. you can force it to the other one if that one doesn't work. One of em should
[01:20] <Red_Tear> hi... got a problem
[01:20] <Red_Tear> I?m just upgrading from dapper to edgy
[01:21] <Red_Tear> and now he is actualy Configuring vmware-player and there is a licence i have to agree to, how do i?
[01:22] <root> hi can someone help me?
[01:22] <Jucato> Red_Tear: in Adept? you'll have to do that using apt-get in the command line
[01:22] <johey> genii: I think I can figure out something thanks to your hints. Else, I will cry some more.
[01:22] <root> i got trouble with my login screen
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> root: if you ask your question
[01:22] <Red_Tear> Jucato yes i am doing it in command line
[01:22] <genii> johey OK, good luck. I'll be around a while anyhow if you get questions
[01:23] <Red_Tear> and at the moment it shows a licence agreement to me and i dont know how to accept it
[01:23] <Jucato> Red_Tear: use your cursor keys to select the Accept/OK button and press Enter?
[01:23] <root> when i login (kubuntu 6.10) the screen turns black and shows my login screen again
[01:23] <SlimG> root: you're root, you'll figure it out easily ;)
[01:23] <Filthpig> well
[01:23] <Admiral_Chicago> Red_Tear: perhaps tab
[01:23] <root> well, recovery mode and startx :p
[01:23] <Admiral_Chicago> root: sudo dpkg
[01:23] <Jucato> root: try checking if you have enough disk space left
[01:23] <Red_Tear> works, thanks
[01:23] <Admiral_Chicago> err
[01:23] <Jucato> moin Admiral_Chicago
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:24] <root> i got a diskspace error when i tried copying a file
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> root: try that
[01:24] <Jucato> er?
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: moin?
[01:24] <Jucato> moin = hello/good day
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> ah, should have just said something like this: "hey there Jucato :)!!!!"
[01:25] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin
[01:25] <root> Jucato: wich parameters for dpkg
[01:25] <root> brb get AC adapter
[01:25] <Jucato> root: that explains it, you need to free up some space
[01:25] <Jucato> root: "df -h" will show you how much space you have left
[01:26] <danny500> finally
[01:26] <danny500> reinstalled Ubuntu an all is good now lol
[01:26] <danny500> :D
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> ah, thought it might be a problem with X server
[01:26] <johey> genii: I do a complete dist-upgrade to feisty again. I don't remember what I did not like about it. :)
[01:26] <Jucato> oh wb danny500
[01:26] <danny500> hehe
[01:26] <danny500> DCOP wouldn't work
[01:26] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: could be, but he was able to get the login screen up
[01:27] <genii> heh!
[01:27] <danny500> hi
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> ah, thought the issue was going from KDM to his log in session
[01:27] <johey> genii: I think there was something with Digikam that did not work as I wanted to, but I'll see about that. Hehe.
[01:28] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: ah. he meant that after logging in, he just gets thrown back to the login screen again.
[01:28] <root> Jucato: / is 100% in use :
[01:28] <Jucato> root: well, free up some space :)
[01:28] <danny500> 0_0
[01:28] <root> that will fix it?
[01:28] <danny500> how big is your hard drive root?
[01:28] <Jucato> try "sudo apt-get clean" to try to clean up the APT cache (saved .deb from apt-get)
[01:29] <root> 120gb danny500
[01:29] <danny500> !!! what did you fill it with? lol
[01:29] <root> series, CSI, NCIS, TopGear
[01:29] <root> but not on /
[01:29] <danny500> oh ok
[01:29] <danny500> you can get a good sized 300GB for like $120
[01:30] <Jucato> oooh CSI and NCIS :D
[01:30] <danny500> nice
[01:31] <root> how do you remove a directory Command Line
[01:31] <root> Jucato:  NCIS rules
[01:31] <Jucato> root: did you try the command I gave above?
[01:31] <Jucato> before you go deleting other files
[01:31] <root> yes, and / was 100% in use
[01:32] <Jucato> no not that
[01:32] <don_jr__> How can I empty trashbin with su?
 try "sudo apt-get clean" to try to clean up the APT cache (saved .deb from apt-get)
[01:32] <danny500> lol
[01:32] <Jucato> root:  that one ^^^^
[01:32] <Admiral_Chicago> don_jr__: i think its in ~/.trash iirc
[01:32] <danny500> ...... / is your Linux partition lol
[01:33] <don_jr__> Admiral_Chicago thanks
[01:33] <root> how do i remove dirs commandline
[01:33] <root> rm -f?
[01:33] <Admiral_Chicago> root: rmdir
[01:33] <Jucato> root: <Jucato> try "sudo apt-get clean" to try to clean up the APT cache (saved .deb from apt-get)
[01:33] <root> did that already
[01:33] <Admiral_Chicago> but they have to be empty to so you may need to run sudo rm -r
[01:34] <Jucato> root: still 100%?
[01:34] <root> only 92% Jucato
[01:34] <root> :D
[01:34] <root> 85% now
[01:34] <Jucato> so now try to login normally again
[01:34] <root> ok
[01:35] <root> first, i must reboot
[01:35] <root> to get into normal mode
[01:35] <root> see you
[01:35] <root> i'l be back to report
[01:35] <root> and i think i have to remove the trash things
[01:35] <root> :p
[01:35] <Admiral_Chicago> I will be here
[01:36] <Jucato> ok starving now :)
[01:38] <geggam> !plf
[01:38] <ubotu> The Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas
[01:39] <genii> !flq
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <genii> hm
[01:39] <root> w00t it worked
[01:40] <Filthpig> well
[01:40] <Filthpig> why are you root?
[01:40] <Filthpig> heh
[01:40] <root> couldnt find another name
[01:40] <root> not logged in as root @ linux now
[01:40] <Filthpig> k
[01:41] <root> but it would be clearer for you that it is me
[01:41] <Tukz> not root anymore
[01:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Tukz: good to know
[01:41] <Filthpig> can somebody give me a hint to where I can get some help with the kxdocker?
[01:42] <genii> Are there any good Kubuntu how-to videos? I'm distributing these boxes to ex-windows types so looking for something comprehensive to put on their desktop as some starting tutorials.
[01:42] <Filthpig> genii: I've been thinking about that myself
[01:42] <Filthpig> I don't think there is anything
[01:43] <genii> I've seen some Gnome ones but only a handful of KDE ones
[01:43] <Filthpig> but there should be some sort of introduction to linux/kubuntu the first time you run it
[01:43] <Filthpig> if you want to, of course
[01:43] <genii> Even tho many of the apps are the same I don't want to overly confuse them at first ;)
[01:43] <Ace2016> Hi all :)
[01:44] <genii> Filthpig: Well, for the moment i put the Konqueror link to the Kubuntu Introduction there.
[01:44] <Filthpig> genii: My thought is sort of a walkthrough for people who are totally new to Linux. "From windows you might be used to doing this or that, but with Linux it's this way"
[01:45] <Filthpig> interactive walkthrough, that is
[01:45] <genii> Hmm
[01:45] <genii> I may be forced anyhow to make some. If so, I'll post them someplace we all can get them
[01:46] <Filthpig> it'll probably be quite a job, but I think it'll make the change a lot easier
[01:46] <genii> My boss is resorting right now to filming an LCD screen with a regular camera then importing the footage back in
[01:46] <Filthpig> ouch
[01:46] <genii> yeh
[01:46] <genii> At least no flickers :)
[01:46] <Filthpig> hehe :)
[01:47] <Filthpig> would like to see somebody try to make sense out of a screen with white and black stripes running over it at all times
[01:47] <genii> Sounds like wrong driver
[01:47] <Filthpig> huh?
[01:47] <hitmanWilly> its the new Zany Zebra release!!
[01:48] <hitmanWilly> :)
[01:48] <Filthpig> I mean filming a CRT screen
[01:48] <genii> I had that when I tried vesa for i810 chipset. the gui was fine but consoles messy
[01:48] <Filthpig> hitmanWilly: hahahah :D
[01:48] <genii> Filthpig: Ah, OK :)
[01:48] <Filthpig> but again, no clues as to where I can get some help with kxdocker?
[01:49] <Filthpig> :s
[01:49] <genii> When ppl ask about versions like 10.6 or so on i think about Temporal Tarsiers. They are weird looking things
[01:50] <genii> Is the symptom something like "kxdocker doesn't open in Edgy?" I see a launchpad site with that title
[01:51] <genii> eg: bug #74862
[01:52] <chin1> was it me or did i see a program named dvdrip in the repos ?
[01:52] <geggam> !k9copy
[01:52] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:52] <geggam> !istanbul
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about istanbul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <geggam> heh
[01:53] <geggam> !xvidcap
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvidcap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <Tukz> what's the best tool for monitoring c
[01:54] <Tukz> CPU
[01:54] <Tukz> and processes
[01:55] <geggam> top
[01:55] <alex__> holas, buenas noches.
[01:55] <genii> top
[01:55] <geggam> hey genii ... if u use istanbul or xvidcap u can make videos of the desktop
[01:55] <genii> KDE has a gui to it I trhink
[01:55] <Tukz> somehow everytime i am watching a video, my system starts slowing down
[01:56] <alex__> hello, is possible to view videos divx, xvid in my Kubuntu?
[01:56] <geggam> !medibuntu
[01:56] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[01:56] <genii> geggam I saw an X driver of "recorder" which I believe streams to a file
[01:56] <geggam> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Screencast-Guide-Capure-Your-Linux-Desktop-on-Video-42626.shtml
[01:56] <genii> geggam cool, I'll look into it
[01:57] <geggam> i dont have the time to do something like that at this time
[01:57] <geggam> crap
[01:58] <genii> If i can get my old Rage II with S-Video out working I may just patch it in the VCR or so
[01:58] <alex__> ubotu
[01:58] <alex__> i execute this
[01:58] <alex__> sudo wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/sources.list.d/edgy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[01:59] <alex__> : GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release: Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pblica no est disponible: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[01:59] <don_jr__> will screen saver coming on while I'm doing a 'make' bother it any?
[01:59] <alex__> oooouch!
[01:59] <genii> nah
[01:59] <alex__> excuse me!!
[01:59] <alex__> wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[02:00] <genii> Unless you're compiling something to do with the screensaver system. Even then file-locking should prevent issues
[02:00] <don_jr__> Genii thanks, just making sure.  nothing to do with screensavers, configureing wine
[02:00] <genii> don_jr__: np
[02:01] <genii> !es > alex__
[02:03] <melvin> can anyone tell me if it is better to run 6.06 Dapper or 6.10 Edgy on an AMD64 5000+
[02:03] <melvin> running Dapper 6.06 now
[02:03] <don_jr__> I have an 800 mhz pentium 3 and edgy runs great!
[02:04] <melvin> yeah but I would like to know, cause i have some issues with my Creative X-Fi Fatality :/
[02:04] <genii> I salvaged an old dual cpu P3 Dell, and had 2 350Mhz  in there, just put in 2 1GhZ slot1 I got now :) Will see how it goes
[02:04] <melvin> won't work
[02:04] <alex__> is possible to install beryl in my compaq d31?
[02:05] <alex__> 512 Mb _Ram
[02:05] <alex__> 64 Mb Video Ram
[02:05] <genii> (Worked A-OK with the old chips)
[02:05] <alex__> p4
[02:05] <melvin> dunno what beryl is mate >.<
[02:05] <melvin> I'm allready thrilled I got Kubuntu going myself :D
[02:06] <don_jr__> Crap, I have stuff in my trash bin that won't let me delete it, how can I get it out with kdesu? or sudo?  when I do a 'locate' for what's in it it doesn't bring anything up.
[02:06] <genii> alex__:  You may get a more definitive answer to that in the channel #ubuntu-effects
[02:06] <Tukz> how can i do power management in kubuntu
[02:06] <alex__> don_jr__:
[02:07] <don_jr__> ?
[02:07] <alex__> how i install beryl iun my kubunty version
[02:08] <melvin> sudo apt-get beryl  ?
[02:08] <Jucato> !beryl | alex__
[02:08] <ubotu> alex__: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:08] <alex__> yes????
[02:08] <alex__> melvin
[02:08] <don_jr__> I went to that website right there and configured it and installed
[02:08] <alex__> my cpu is a p4
[02:08] <alex__> with 512mb RAM
[02:08] <alex__> and 64 Ram Video
[02:08] <Tukz> no one knows anything about power management?
[02:09] <don_jr__> I don't know if your system will run it or not alex__ I would tink it would, mine lag's a bit at 800 mgz p3, 300 and some ram and 128mhz vid
[02:09] <genii> alex__ This is not a channel for beryl. Jucato just pointed you where you may get some help.
[02:09] <Jucato> alex__: again, #ubuntu-effects for beryl questions, specially how to install
[02:09] <don_jr__> I do need to figure out how to empty my trash bin as su??
[02:09] <alex__> thnks
[02:10] <melvin> nope alex ^^ listen to them
[02:10] <melvin> they know, I'm doing guesswork
[02:10] <stdin> don_jr__: why do you need to do that?
[02:10] <melvin> what guesswork ?
[02:10] <don_jr__> stdin cause there's stuff in the trashbin when I try to empty it says 'permission denied'
[02:11] <excitatory_> is there a way to probe 'special' buttons on a keyboard and then map them to various commands?  i have a fairly generic keyboard with a 'sleep' 'wake up' and 'power' button.
[02:11] <Tukz> ...
[02:12] <don_jr__> excitatory_ I would think you could do something with those, but can't say how myself....
[02:12] <stdin> don_jr__: do "chown -R `whoami`: /(your home dir)/.local/share/Trash/
[02:12] <stdin> don_jr__: then you should be able to empty normally
[02:12] <don_jr__> stdin can I do that from the 'run' line in the kmenu cause i"m cdoing a 'make' in console
[02:13] <stdin> don_jr__: you can open a new tab if you want
[02:13] <stdin> don_jr__: but you'll need sudo with that command
[02:13] <Tukz> power management anyone?
[02:13] <stdin> don_jr__: so you need an interactive shell
[02:15] <stdin> don_jr__: or pause make with "Ctrl-Z", then do "sudo chown -R `whoami`: /(your home dir)/.local/share/Trash/", then restart make with "fg"
[02:15] <don_jr__> stdin the 'whoami' as in what you've put there exactly? or use my name there?
[02:16] <stdin> don_jr__: the ` means to execute the command (ie not a ' but a `), you can put your username in there too, or $(whoami)
[02:17] <Tukz> ...
[02:17] <don_jr__> Okay, got it empty.
[02:18] <don_jr__> THanks alot
[02:18] <flaccid0s> wtf happened to the dapper->edgy upgrade page?
[02:18] <moparisthebest> has anyone in here compiled thier own kernel from kernel.org?
[02:18] <moparisthebest> or 'vanilla sources' as they say
[02:19] <don_jr__> I have never configured a kernel
[02:19] <stdin> flaccid0s: this one http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade ?
[02:19] <moparisthebest> the problem I am having is with the nvidia drivers
[02:19] <moparisthebest> im running on the kernel I compiled, but the nvidia drivers wont work
[02:20] <flaccid0s> stdin: yep just found that. question is why is it so hard for people to get to from here?
[02:20] <stdin> !upgrade
[02:20] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:20] <don_jr__> I don't know how to help ya there accept to maybe give ya a site to help ya add the nvidia drivers again if needed
[02:20] <stdin> flaccid0s: ubotu had it
[02:20] <flaccid0s> we seem to point them to ubuntu upgrades or unstable ones
[02:21] <flaccid0s> [10:18]  <flaccid0s> upgrade
[02:21] <flaccid0s> [10:18]  <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:21] <flaccid0s> why a dif response
[02:21] <Jucato> flaccid0s: because the dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy was slightly different
[02:21] <don_jr__> flaccid0s there's a diff between an upgrade and a dist upgrade
[02:22] <stdin> flaccid0s: try "upgrade-#kubuntu"
[02:22] <Jucato> and that UpgradeNotes page is actually oriented towards Ubuntu (update-manager)
[02:22] <flaccid0s> i queried ubotu with upgrade
[02:22] <flaccid0s> i got a dif response
[02:22] <stdin> flaccid0s: yeah
[02:22] <don_jr__> just 1 extra step or so I think
[02:22] <flaccid0s> why
[02:22] <don_jr__> well 2 extra steps if you want to dist-upgrade...iirc
[02:23] <Jucato> flaccid0s: yes, that's a #kubuntu channel factoid. it shows a different factoid if it's in the #kubuntu channel
[02:23] <flaccid0s> no. ubotu is giving a dif page
[02:23] <Jucato> flaccid0s: yes we know
[02:23] <stdin> flaccid0s: because the upgrade is the generic (#ubuntu) version, adding a -#kubuntu tells ubotu to use the #kubuntu responce
[02:23] <flaccid0s> right
[02:23] <flaccid0s> so its not a good idea to query ubotu direct in the end
[02:23] <flaccid0s> oh
[02:23] <Jucato> that depends though
[02:23] <flaccid0s> i tried to not spam the channel thats all
[02:23] <Jucato> most of the factoids are non-#kubuntu specific
[02:24] <Jucato> flaccid0s: another way would be to !factoid > nick
[02:24] <flaccid0s> yeah
[02:24] <flaccid0s> imo the community has the resources but they are all over the place
[02:24] <flaccid0s> there is no official manual/guide/handbook?
[02:26] <stdin> wiki and help.ubuntu.com are official guides/manuals
[02:26] <flaccid0s> there is lots of duplication and redundancy
[02:26] <flaccid0s> and yeah ubuntu and kubuntu are mixed due to ubotu etc.
[02:26] <Jucato> hm?
[02:26] <makuseru> is there anyway to use .ttf fonts?
[02:27] <Jucato> ubotu doesn't have much to do with it
[02:27] <flaccid0s> well it does when someone asks it for something and gets ubuntu specific instructions
[02:27] <Jucato> we just feed it factoids/links from the wikis
[02:27] <Jucato> well, it was only recently that we started making channel specific responses for ubotu
[02:28] <solomon_> after today's upgrades of linux-restricted-modules, it has become necessary for me to run NVIDIA's driver install script after every boot up.  What's changed, and how can I get it to use the module I compiled (1.0-9755) rather than the one it's using at boot-up?
[02:28] <Jucato> help.ubuntu.com is the documentation site. help.ubuntu.com/community is the community documentation/wiki. and wiki.ubuntu.com is the development/developer wiki (for specs, teams, discussions, etc)
[02:28] <flaccid0s> Jucato: yes that stuffed me up to.
[02:29] <flaccid0s> now im having upgrade woes as expected
[02:29] <Admiral_Chicago> solomon_: nvidia driver (which is nonfree blob btw) has to be loaded with every new kernel
[02:29] <flaccid0s> http://pastebin.ca/433745
[02:30] <solomon_> Admiral_Chicago : yeah, but before I did it once, that's it.  Now it's every boot up.  That's the difference
[02:30] <flaccid0s> the following may help:
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[02:31] <makuseru> are there anyway to use .ttf fonts?
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> solomon_: ah i see what you mean
[02:31] <larrythecow> hi guys! I am a gentoo user and my dad has a crappy laptop with a lot of problems
[02:31] <sdlnxgk> !system services
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system services - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> !fonts
[02:31] <larrythecow> I am hoping they can be fixed by converting it to linux from windows
[02:31] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:31] <sdlnxgk> !processes
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about processes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <flaccid0s> Jucato: what do you think
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> larrythecow: see that link? you want to try that
[02:32] <Jucato> solomon_: on feisty?
[02:32] <Jucato> flaccid0s: think about what?
[02:32] <solomon_> Jucato: yep
[02:32] <sdlnxgk> anyone know where I can go to get info about system processes running and how to delete  them???
[02:32] <larrythecow> so I put in the kubuntu cd but one thing doesn't work so I want to ask you now because if I install and it doesn't work then he will be mad
[02:32] <larrythecow> see the computer has a little button that turns on wifi
[02:32] <flaccid0s> Jucato: my upgrade problem: http://pastebin.ca/433745
[02:32] <sdlnxgk> I uninstalled some programs but processes are still  running
[02:32] <Jucato> solomon_: the 9755 driver is now on nvidia-glx-new
[02:32] <larrythecow> of course, I didn't expect them to work in linux.
[02:32] <larrythecow> but since that button doesn't work..
[02:32] <solomon_> Jucato: thank u sir.  I'll try that
[02:33] <larrythecow> when I got to open up wifi manager, it says "wireless is switched off, switch it on?"
[02:33] <larrythecow> I choose yes and nothing happens.
[02:33] <larrythecow> when I close and reopen.. it asks again.
[02:33] <larrythecow> so obviously it didn't switch it on
[02:33] <larrythecow> how do I prevent this from happening?
[02:34] <larrythecow> also, his screen is capable of running at 1200x800 but it defaults as 1024x768, so it looks really bad.
[02:34] <Jucato> flaccid0s: sorry no idea... maybe fdoving knows (if he's here)
[02:34] <larrythecow> I tried xrandr to set it to 1200x800
[02:34] <flaccid0s> fdoving: are you alive br0?
[02:34] <larrythecow> but all that happens is everything is all mangled up.
[02:34] <larrythecow> and it looks like crap and is completely unusable.
[02:34] <flaccid0s> i've never EVER had a smooth upgrade of ubuntu
[02:34] <larrythecow> what is wrong?
[02:35] <Jucato> flaccid0s: edgy to feisty will be smooth
[02:35] <Jucato> dapper to edgy was a (known) nightmare
[02:35] <flaccid0s> thats what they always say
[02:35] <Jucato> now, that's what *I* say
[02:35] <Jucato> the new dist-upgrade tool makes it easy
[02:35] <larrythecow> yes, I don't think ubuntu should have a standard release cycle. that sounds so stupid having to upgrade all the time. They should just have major updates. :D gentoo does this well.
[02:36] <flaccid0s> you cannot guarantee it or predict the future :)
[02:36] <Jucato> larrythecow: you don't have to upgrade all the time.
[02:36] <larrythecow> oh..
[02:36] <Jucato> each release (other than LTS) is supported for 18 months
[02:36] <larrythecow> well anyway, can you guys tell me what to do about my dads computer?
[02:36] <larrythecow> Jucato: well upgrading every 18 months sucks too :P
[02:36] <Jucato> larrythecow: less than upgrading every 6 months :P
[02:36] <flaccid0s> lts is a load of shiz if you ask me
[02:37] <larrythecow> with gentoo I NEVER upgrade :D
[02:37] <Jucato> (you can always use Debian... which upgrades after 21 months)
[02:37] <larrythecow> yes but noone likes debian :P
[02:37] <larrythecow> nah, debian is okay, but I think kubuntu would be the best for my dad.
[02:37] <larrythecow> and I'm perfectly happy with my own distro
[02:37] <larrythecow> so no debian for me
[02:37] <flaccid0s> freebsd is stable
[02:38] <larrythecow> I like freebsd too though :P
[02:38] <flaccid0s> i like debian because its stabler than ubuntu
[02:38] <larrythecow> hmm well anyway
[02:38] <flaccid0s> but how much time should i spend trying to fix this upgrade? 1 hour, 2 hours, 4days?
[02:38] <larrythecow> know what to do about my dads computer problems?
[02:38] <Jucato> ok getting kinda offtopic really
[02:40] <flaccid0s> whatever apt-get command to install or upgrade i issue, i get this error
[02:41] <voidmage> what error?
[02:42] <tahlvin_> Anyone here?
[02:42] <voidmage> !ksysguard | sdlnxgk
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksysguard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <voidmage> !info ksysguard | sdlnxgk
[02:42] <ubotu> sdlnxgk: ksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4 (edgy), package size 486 kB, installed size 1564 kB
[02:43] <voidmage> !anyone | tahlvin
[02:43] <ubotu> tahlvin: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:43] <flaccid0s> voidmage: http://pastebin.ca/433745
[02:43] <voidmage> flaccid0s: tried installing xorg?
[02:44] <tahlvin_> Nautilis died, as did a bunch of applets.
[02:44] <tahlvin_> brb
[02:44] <larrythecow> okay problem one: on windows my dad has a little button that you press to turn wifi on.
[02:44] <larrythecow> on linux I never expected the button to work..
[02:44] <larrythecow> but I expected wifi to work.
[02:44] <flaccid0s> voidmage: yes
[02:44] <larrythecow> what happens is, I open up wifi manager
[02:44] <larrythecow> and it says "would you like to turn wifi on?"
[02:44] <flaccid0s> can't get same error for everything cept dif dep
[02:44] <larrythecow> I choose yes and wifi doesn't work.
[02:45] <larrythecow> I close and open up again the wifi manager and it says
[02:45] <voidmage> does apt-get -f install do anything?
[02:45] <larrythecow> "would you like to turn wifi on?"
[02:45] <larrythecow> obviously that means it didn't turn wifi on
[02:45] <larrythecow> how to I make it work?
[02:45] <voidmage> larrythecow: tried the button?
[02:45] <larrythecow> preferably automatically on boot
[02:45] <voidmage> it might be a wifi kill switch
[02:45] <larrythecow> voidmage: yeah, the button doesn't work
[02:45] <voidmage> what model laptop is it?
[02:45] <flaccid0s> im going to remove xorg
[02:46] <larrythecow> well in windows it actually bring up a little windows
[02:46] <larrythecow> *window
[02:46] <flaccid0s> it has many packages that must of been installed that should not of
[02:46] <larrythecow> with a checkbox ticked saying "wifi"
[02:46] <voidmage> again, what model laptop?
[02:46] <larrythecow> when if you press the button again, the checkbox unticks
[02:46] <larrythecow> it is a Medion laptop
[02:47] <flaccid0s> so remove xorg-* pretty much removes kde. lets see if i can install kubuntu-desktop now
[02:47] <voidmage> larrythecow: this might be a known issue
[02:47] <larrythecow> bug page?
[02:47] <voidmage> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/31136
[02:47] <voidmage> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/32099
[02:48] <larrythecow> flaccid0s : what are you talking about? removing xorg doesn't remove kde!
[02:48] <voidmage> the bug page is kind of old though
[02:48] <voidmage> from dapper
[02:48] <flaccid0s> i know larrythecow, but it is this time: sudo apt-get remove xorg-*
[02:48] <flaccid0s> 231 packages to remove with that command
[02:50] <Cantthinkofname> Hello there.  So, I just upgraded my kubuntu from dapper to edgy... but now my mouse doesn't work.  It is a wireless MS IntelliMouse Explorer 2.0, connected through a USB.  Can anyone assist me?
[02:50] <tahlvin_> Err, sike.
[02:50] <tahlvin_> It started working again, just had to restart.
[02:50] <tahlvin_> But when it died it said something about a problem with Bonobo, what's that?
[02:52] <flaccid0s> nope this didn't work at all
[02:52] <tahlvin_> And if I delete nautilus, what can I do?
[02:52] <voidmage> larrythecow: running edgy or feisty?
[02:53] <voidmage> also, have a more specific model number?
[02:53] <flaccid0s> tahlvin_: use konqueror
[02:53] <tahlvin_> falccid0s: Thanks, but isn't that oneof the games bundled with the compy?
[02:54] <tahlvin_> falccid0s: Nevermind, that's konquest.
[02:54] <flaccid0s> konquest?
[02:54] <voidmage> some game
[02:55] <flaccid0s> !konqueror
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <voidmage> !info konqueror
[02:55] <ubotu> konqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.4 (edgy), package size 1954 kB, installed size 5280 kB
[02:55] <voidmage> !info konquest
[02:55] <ubotu> konquest: KDE based GNU-Lactic Konquest game. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 325 kB, installed size 676 kB
[02:55] <flaccid0s> true
[02:55] <flaccid0s> so like i've decided to waste my bandwidth and upgrade to feisty to fix this
[02:55] <flaccid0s> i guess my chances are 100000 to 1
[02:55] <wolferine> what is a great PHP editor?
[02:55] <voidmage> hmm
[02:56] <wolferine> anyone?
[02:56] <voidmage> i wouldn't try upgrading to feisty without making sure you have ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop
[02:56] <voidmage> wolferine: vim?
[02:56] <flaccid0s> wolferine: kate or kdevelop
[02:56] <flaccid0s> voidmage: i can't install them.
[02:56] <wolferine> i was thinking more like an IDE
[02:56] <voidmage> !info kdevelop
[02:56] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[02:56] <voidmage> it won't let you manually install xorg?
[02:57] <flaccid0s> !info eclipse
[02:57] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[02:57] <voidmage> make sure xserver-xorg is fully installed too
[02:57] <flaccid0s> voidmage: it won't manually let me install anything
[02:57] <voidmage> what's the error when you try to manually install something?
[02:57] <flaccid0s> same as i pasted before
[02:57] <voidmage> still that said package depends on xorg?
[02:58] <flaccid0s> requested an impossible situation. damn straight
[02:58] <flaccid0s> if you try to install other packages the deps are dif
[02:58] <voidmage> hmm
[02:58] <voidmage> can i see your sources.list?
[02:58] <flaccid0s> even after removing xorg-* and other main packages
[02:58] <flaccid0s> i re-generated a fresh one
[02:58] <voidmage> ran an apt-get update?
[02:58] <flaccid0s> bit late now as its doing feisty
[02:58] <flaccid0s> yes many times
[02:59] <voidmage> hmm
[02:59] <voidmage> well after you get to feisty
[02:59] <voidmage> before you reboot or anything
[02:59] <voidmage> strongly recommend trying to get ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop working
[02:59] <voidmage> dist-upgrade a few more times after that
[02:59] <flaccid0s> yeah
[02:59] <flaccid0s> thats the plan
[02:59] <flaccid0s> i doubt i'm going to get that far
[02:59] <voidmage> make sure dist-upgrades don't need anything else, THEN reoob
[02:59] <flaccid0s> i just wasted 1GB download and 6 hours of time...
[02:59] <flaccid0s> but thats just how ubuntu is
[03:00] <flaccid0s> at least kde hasn't fully crashed yet its still alive
[03:16] <OrTigaS> how to share printer in LIVE CD?
[03:18] <flaccid0s> OrTigaS: set it up in kcontrol -> peripherals -> printers
[03:18] <OrTigaS> ok... let me try that
[03:22] <OrTigaS> i'm using 5.10 :)...
[03:22] <OrTigaS> where i can find kcontrol in 5.10
[03:22] <larrythecow> voidmage: I'm running 6.10
[03:25] <flaccid0s> OrTigaS: not sure. run command -> kcontrol
[03:25] <OrTigaS> ok
[03:27] <larrythecow> voidmage: with an MD 96500
[03:27] <voidmage> hmm
[03:27] <voidmage> can't really figure much out
[03:27] <OrTigaS> now i see the printer but i cant see there how to share :(
[03:27] <voidmage> everything on google is in french
[03:28] <OrTigaS> server: localhost: 631
[03:28] <flaccid0s> OrTigaS: is the printer already added? you usually need to add a printer
[03:28] <OrTigaS> flaccid0s: yup
[03:28] <OrTigaS> i assign name & location
[03:29] <OrTigaS> i assigned name & location
[03:29] <flaccid0s> !printing
[03:29] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:29] <meo_> is sabayon debian or red hat based?
[03:29] <OrTigaS> aw
[03:29] <OrTigaS> deb
[03:29] <meo_> k
[03:30] <flaccid0s> OrTigaS: add the printer on the client machine via smb or ipp
[03:30] <larrythecow> voidmage: hang on i think I know
[03:32] <OrTigaS> theres is some long edit, mayber i just gonna change it to 6.06 live cd to make it fast :)
[03:32] <OrTigaS> thanks guys
[03:38] <razar> I accidently closed my update notifier icon in kubuntu. Where can I open it up from again?
[03:39] <flaccid0s> run adept_notifier
[03:40] <razar> thanks
[03:43] <matias_> D
[03:43] <matias_> eg
[03:43] <matias_> sombele humboc esernas
[03:44] <matias_> Nom eso jugus
[03:44] <matias_> Quipe! Ansertius proct files!!!!!
[03:49] <jordo23> how do you start the adept-notifier again?
[03:49] <jordo23> !adept
[03:49] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:49] <jordo23> !adept-notifier
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-notifier - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <N0Lif3> I can't get kaffeine to work anymore. I only installed Kubuntu yesterday and had it working fine, but now when I try to start it up the Kaffeine icon on my cursor bounces a few times then nothing.
[03:51] <jtmoney> ~$ aplay -l
[03:51] <jtmoney> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[03:51] <jtmoney> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB] , device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem] 
[03:51] <jtmoney>   Subdevices: 1/1
[03:51] <jtmoney>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[03:51] <jtmoney> damn it, anyone know why only my modem is showing up?
[03:51] <jtmoney> i can't get any sound out of this POS laptop
[03:52] <Pollywog> point of sale?
[03:52] <Pollywog> Google the chipset at Google Linux
[03:52] <jtmoney> piece of crap
[03:52] <jtmoney> i've been doing that for 2 days
[03:52] <Pollywog> oic
[03:52] <jtmoney> now it's just not even showing up for aplay -l
[03:53] <Pollywog> does your chipset appear to be supported in Linux?
[03:53] <flaccid0s> jordo23: run adept_notifier ?
[03:54] <jordo23> flaccid0s: Yeah
[03:54] <jordo23> just run it......command by itself doesn't work
[03:54] <N0Lif3> Which terminal emulator do you guys use? I'm trying to stay minimal on laptop, since i only have about 224MB of ram. I hear the xterm and aterm are pretty light, but are they about the same as Konsole? I'd imagine that Konsole isn't too hard on the machine since it is relative to KDE
[03:54] <flaccid0s> jordo23: what do yo mean
[03:55] <jtmoney> Pollywog: yeah, it's the intel_hda
[03:55] <jtmoney> realtek high definition
[03:55] <jtmoney> everyone is having problems with it
[03:55] <jtmoney> and i'm trying all the suggestions
[03:55] <jordo23> flaccid0s: I just want to start the adept-notifier....typing "adept-notifier" doesn't seem to work on command line...
[03:56] <flaccid0s> adept_notifier
[03:56] <flaccid0s> underscore
[03:56] <Pollywog> jtmoney: if all else fails, you might try Freespire but first look up the compatibility info on their freespire.org site
[03:56] <jordo23> oh...
[03:56] <jtmoney> is freespire debian-based?
[03:56] <Pollywog> yes
[03:56] <jordo23> flaccid0s: Duh....thanks! :)
[03:56] <jtmoney> okay, good
[03:56] <jtmoney> thank you
[03:56] <Pollywog> ubuntu in next version
[03:56] <flaccid0s> np
[03:57] <Pollywog> the next Freespire will be based on Ubuntu
[04:06] <genii> Bleh CNR
[04:14] <pollyo> Hello
[04:17] <flaccid0s> will be funny if i pull it off though
[04:20] <chr1831> how come when i use audacity it cant find my sound device?
[04:21] <flaccid0s> what is the latest kernel version in feisty?
[04:22] <chr1831> .20-12
[04:22] <cheeseboy> hey anyone got a nice black theme , a nice looking system monitor , or weather monitor?
[04:22] <flaccid0s> i'm getting Setting up linux-386 (2.6.20.14.12) ...
[04:23] <flaccid0s> cheeseboy: the kweather applet for kicker
[04:23] <cheeseboy> kicker??
[04:24] <flaccid0s> the main panel
[04:24] <unix_infidel> the little bar at the bottom in kde.
[04:25] <luckyone> can anyone help me with my smbfs problem... it just broke and I am trying to figure out how to fix it... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2433602#post2433602
[04:25] <flaccid0s> hmm getting close
[04:27] <flaccid0s> luckyone: same situation as that post?
[04:27] <flaccid0s> ie. exact same mountpoint etc
[04:27] <flaccid0s> !info mdadm
[04:27] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux MD device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.1-6ubuntu5.2 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 456 kB
[04:27] <flaccid0s> right i guess i don't need mdadm if i don't use raid ?
[04:28] <luckyone> flaccid0s: sorry, I am jdmpike in that post
[04:28] <flaccid0s> ok
[04:28] <luckyone> flaccid0s: any ideas you could think of where to look?
[04:28] <flaccid0s> what is output of mount
[04:28] <flaccid0s> i mean mount | grep garage
[04:29] <luckyone> flaccid0s: mount | grep garage does nothing
[04:29] <flaccid0s> what about file /media/garage1
[04:30] <luckyone> give it a minute, it hangs...
[04:30] <luckyone> flaccid0s: I get pretty scared when sudo can't rm something...
[04:30] <luckyone> flaccid0s: /media/garage1: ERROR: cannot open `/media/garage1' (Input/output error)
[04:31] <flaccid0s> looks like a physical error
[04:31] <flaccid0s> !fsck
[04:31] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[04:31] <flaccid0s> i would recommend fsck first
[04:31] <flaccid0s> then try again
[04:33] <N0Lif3> How do I add Debian testing/unstable repositories to my /etc/apt/sources.list? They aren't there by default and I can't find the address to them online
[04:33] <luckyone> flaccid0s: thanks man, I will gvie that a try... be back in a bit
[04:34] <flaccid0s> np
[04:34] <flaccid0s> N0Lif3: not sure why you need them, but you could ask where to get them in #debian
[04:35] <N0Lif3> flaccid0s: On rtorrent's webpage, they say I need Debian's testing/unstable to get it through apt-get
[04:35] <flaccid0s> which package?
[04:35] <flaccid0s> !find rtorrent
[04:35] <ubotu> Found: rtorrent
[04:35] <flaccid0s> !info rtorrent
[04:35] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.3-1 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 636 kB
[04:35] <flaccid0s> its in universe for uubntu
[04:36] <N0Lif3> flaccid0s: really?
[04:36] <flaccid0s> i hope so
[04:36] <flaccid0s> ubuntu uses debian upstream. most debian packages are in ubuntu repos as ubuntu version
[04:36] <N0Lif3> flaccid0s: it says "Couldn't find package rtorrent"
[04:36] <flaccid0s> have you enabled universe
[04:36] <N0Lif3> flaccid0s: no
[04:37] <flaccid0s> thats why
[04:37] <N0Lif3> flaccid0s: ok, I just opened my sources.list in kate. what do I do?
[04:37] <flaccid0s> !repos
[04:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:37] <flaccid0s> !source-o-matic
[04:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:39] <luckyone> flaccid0s: still doesn't seem to be working
[04:40] <flaccid0s> did you run fdisk on it and fix any errors?
[04:40] <luckyone> flaccid0s: I did the sudo shutdown -F -f now
[04:41] <flaccid0s> and
[04:41] <luckyone> flaccid0s: I didn't see it do anything...
[04:41] <flaccid0s> maybe the part needs to be flagged in fstab
[04:42] <flaccid0s> ie. the last column on / set to 1
[04:42] <N0Lif3> flaccid0s: that source-o-matic you linked me to, Should I unclick the top options speaking of "Default repositories." It says Ubuntu. I want to stay strictly Kubuntu.
[04:42] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: the ubuntu and kubuntu repos are the same
[04:42] <compilerwriter> Any kernal coders on at the moment?
[04:44] <flaccid0s> N0Lif3: add universe to your existing sources.list only. kubuntu and ubuntu use the same repos
[04:44] <compilerwriter> Hey Jucato how goes it?
[04:45] <compilerwriter> Jucato have you ever worked with kernal code?
[04:45] <flaccid0s> brb getting sandwich
[04:46] <Jucato> it goes fine :)
[04:46] <Jucato> never
[04:46] <luckyone> flaccid0s: I still don't think it ran
[04:47] <compilerwriter> I am reading this article that would leave one to believe there was some very sick humor involved in the naming of variables and comments.
[04:48] <N0Lif3> flaccid0s: taking a look at my sources.list. It seems I already have unsupported software as "universe"
[04:48] <N0Lif3> flaccid0s: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5324/snapshot2sz8.png
[04:49] <don_jr__> How do I remove a program that I compiled and installed?
[04:49] <NightBird> make uninstall
[04:49] <NightBird> normally
[04:49] <NightBird> well.. sudo make uninstall
[04:49] <don_jr__> k, thanks
[04:49] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: uncomment the lins that have universe in them
[04:50] <N0Lif3> sonoftheclayr: uncomment? what do you mean?
[04:50] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: remove the # at the start of the line
[04:50] <N0Lif3> all of them with "universe" at the end?
[04:51] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: yes
[04:51] <don_jr__> how do I delete a directory?
[04:52] <don_jr__> I did rm and it told me it couldn't remove cause it's a directory
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, rm -r
[04:52] <luckyone> don_jr__: rm -r removes dirs
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, means "remove recursive"
[04:53] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly thanks
[04:54] <HaSH> !sio
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <HaSH> !iso
[04:54] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:55] <chalmer> is "home folder" like "my documents" ?
[04:55] <N0Lif3> sonoftheclayr: thanks! removing those comments (#) really helped a lot. I'm installing rtorrent as I'm typing this
[04:55] <sonoftheclayr> chalmer: no
[04:56] <sonoftheclayr> N0Lif3: np
[04:56] <chalmer> where would i put misc. stuff like pic.s  music & stuff?
[04:57] <sonoftheclayr> chalmer: in you home folder..if you want create a new folder called documents or music or pics like i do
[04:57] <chalmer> o" ok
[04:58] <luckyone> man alive, this is upsetting me
[04:58] <chalmer> what do i run to check my devices for missing drivers. like "device manager ?
[05:01] <flaccid0s> N0Lif3: thats why its a good idea to read the ubotu pastes :)
[05:01] <sonoftheclayr> chalmer: nothing, there isn't anything that i know of. sorry, what do you need the drivers for?
[05:02] <chalmer> what player do i need? to play from my music server. wma.
[05:02] <mariano> I have panel kwin panel set up for transparency, but this sets a border for the panel font and makes it very difficult to read, is there a way to disable this outline for fonts in panel?
[05:02] <flaccid0s> !codecs > chalmer
[05:03] <chalmer> flaccid0s> yea i tried that site too but nothing
[05:04] <flaccid0s> nothing?
[05:04] <chalmer> flaccid0s> yea
[05:04] <flaccid0s> are you sure you actually read
[05:05] <chalmer> flaccid0s> i was there reading for 2 hrs on trying to find a player that will play wma
[05:05] <Black_Cat> wma support is not in repository now afaik
[05:05] <flaccid0s> because it tells you what you need
[05:05] <flaccid0s> chalmer: kaboodle, xine, vlc
[05:05] <flaccid0s> amarok,kmplayer
[05:05] <flaccid0s> i think they can all do it if they have the codec
[05:06] <flaccid0s> After following these steps you'll be able to play most common multimedia formats, including MP3, DVD, Flash, Quicktime, WMA and WMV, including both standlone files and content embedded in web pages.
[05:06] <N0Lif3> flaccid0s: I feel reluctant to install vlc. It has lots of its own libs. For somebody like me who wants to stay relatively minimal. VLC is a turnoff.
[05:06] <flaccid0s> that is far from nothing...
[05:06] <flaccid0s> N0Lif3: i don't use it either
[05:06] <jarn> Is there a program that will let me easily manage replaygain tags?
[05:06] <Black_Cat> !codecs
[05:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <Jaxster> hi. Can anyone help me figure out how to get the latest drivers for my video card?
[05:07] <flaccid0s> Jaxster: ati or nvidia?
[05:07] <Jaxster> nvidia
[05:07] <flaccid0s> !nvidia > Jaxster
[05:07] <Jaxster> I had it all set up but I tried to make a dual display and it locked me out of the gui
[05:08] <flaccid0s> ok
[05:08] <flaccid0s> sorry i can't help with dual display
[05:08] <Jaxster> so I reinstalled and now i'm stuck at 400x600
[05:08] <Jaxster> thats fine
[05:08] <Jaxster> I just want single display with normal resolution
[05:08] <flaccid0s> !xorg-reconfigure
[05:09] <flaccid0s> run xserver-xorg reconfigure
[05:09] <flaccid0s> thats the quickest method
[05:09] <Jaxster> in terminal?
[05:09] <flaccid0s> or goto kcontrol -> display and do it there
[05:09] <flaccid0s> Jaxster: yep under sudo
[05:09] <flaccid0s> !upgrade
[05:09] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:10] <don_jr__> Anyone tell me what is HAL and where can I get an install of the header files?
[05:10] <jarn> Isn't the command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'?
[05:10] <jordan> flaccid0s: ok, so I commented out my mount point in /etc/fstab. That took care of the issues with /media/garage1
[05:10] <don_jr__> jarn I believe so
[05:10] <flaccid0s> sorry my bad, jarn is right
[05:10] <jarn> Hrm, I probably should have prefaced that with flaccid0s.
[05:10] <don_jr__> Are there any alternatives to wine or is that it for a windows emulator?
[05:11] <Black_Cat> !vmware
[05:11] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:11] <flaccid0s> jordan: so you dont want to mount the partition anymore?
[05:11] <jarn> flaccid0s: I had to do it often enough as a noob that I should remember. xD
[05:12] <jordan> flaccid0s: I just mounted it... it just doesn't mount automatically in /etc/fstab anymore...
[05:12] <jordan> I don't get it...
[05:12] <flaccid0s> jarn: its a long command thats hard to remember hehe
[05:12] <flaccid0s> jordan: still sounds fishy
[05:12] <jordan> flaccid0s: I took it out of /etc/fstab, then mounted in the terminal after reboot... everything is fine...
[05:13] <flaccid0s> but you can work out why it couldnt exist in fstab. probably incorrect entry
[05:13] <flaccid0s> yes but what did you use to mount it
[05:13] <jordan> flaccid0s: it used to work...
[05:13] <flaccid0s> yes
[05:13] <flaccid0s> used to being the keywords
[05:13] <jordan> flaccid0s: just broke after last apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:13] <flaccid0s> nothing lasts forever, an in IT its a quicker cycle
[05:14] <jordan> flaccid0s: anything look wrong with this? #//luckyseven/garage1 /media/garage1 smbfs credentials=/etc/samba/user,rw,uid=jordan 0 0
[05:14] <don_jr__> so in theory VMware can set up windows on my computer....will it take up the same ammount of space as a normal xp install?
[05:15] <flaccid0s> jordan: oh its smb
[05:15] <jordan> don_jr__: yes, it will need ~3GB allocated to the install minimum
[05:15] <flaccid0s> it looks ok i guess but you can always troubleshoot if you know how
[05:15] <flaccid0s> i'm going to try to reboot
[05:15] <jordan> flaccid0s: I don't really - I am like n00b+1
[05:15] <flaccid0s> bbs
[05:15] <flaccid0s> then start learning jordan :)
[05:16] <don_jr__> so I could basically just dual boot and get the same result, accept for being able to go back and forth between os' without a restart?
[05:18] <don_jr__> I should really write this down, what's the command to extract a tarball from terminal?
[05:20] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: tar -xzvf file.tar.gz
[05:21] <don_jr__> sonoftheclayr thanks, you've been a life saver these past couple of days! =)
[05:21] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: np
[05:21] <TheDebugger> You don't need the -
[05:21] <TheDebugger> just: tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[05:23] <N0Lif3> Is Noatun any good? I can't get Kaffein to work anymore (uninstall and reinstall a bunch of times and it just won't start up anymore). So, i'm looking for another k-based video player
[05:23] <dthacker> OT: anybody know the name of the curses utiltiy to config net stuff on the server edition?
[05:24] <don_jr__> Does anyone know whre I can get the HAL header files?
[05:24] <Jucato> N0Lif3: try kmplayer
[05:24] <N0Lif3> Jucato: ok
[05:24] <don_jr__> I can't find it in the apt-cach search hal
[05:24] <Jaxster> can anyone walk me though configuring new display settings? Very new. I had it before. But I need new display drivers do I need the nvidia-glx or the glx-dev??
[05:24] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: apt-get install libhal-dev
[05:24] <TheDebugger> *-dev is for development...
[05:24] <Jaxster> so no dev
[05:24] <Jaxster> 10-4
[05:25] <TheDebugger> Jaxster: So, you need nvidia-glx
[05:25] <Jucato> !libhal-dev | don_jr__
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libhal-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Jucato> bah :)
[05:25] <don_jr__> sonoftheclayr there you go again savin my rear....
[05:25] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: ubuntu package search plugin for firefox
[05:26] <Jucato> !info libhal-dev
[05:26] <dthacker> no joy, eh?  Time to GTFI.  Bye folks
[05:26] <ubotu> libhal-dev: Hardware Abstraction Layer - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7.1-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 272 kB
[05:26] <don_jr__> great, where can I get it? hehe
[05:26] <SubOne> can anyone link me to information on how to make "Window Decorations" and "Styles"? KDE Themes basically
[05:26] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: mycroft.mozdev.org
[05:28] <Jucato> SubOne: you will basically need to know C++/Qt programming
[05:28] <SubOne> ok, and?
[05:29] <Jucato> this is an old window decoration tutorial: http://www.usermode.org/docs/kwintheme.html
[05:29] <Jucato> can't find anything about styles
[05:31] <SubOne> Jucato: ty i'll read this
[05:32] <TheDebugger> Oh yeah
[05:33] <don_jr__> kubuntu have an rss reader?
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> well, im now installing gentoo on my other hd
[05:33] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: akregator
[05:33] <Dasnipa`> don_jr__, akregator is a KDE based rss reader that is in the (k)ubuntu repos
[05:33] <don_jr__> thanks
[05:33] <Peaker> don_jr__:
[05:33] <Peaker> $ apt-cache search rss reader
[05:33] <Peaker> akregator - RSS feed aggregator for KDE
[05:36] <natham> hi, i need a software to sync data on 2 locations (a laptop user), somebody knows a easy one?
[05:42] <zak_> when i go to install openoffice.org-base, it wants to upgrade the rest of openoffice... normally i would, but i'm on dialup and it will take a long time... is there a way to get around this?
[05:43] <zak_> or is there anything else roughly equivalent to microsoft access [ie, can save in it's format] ?
[05:44] <N0Lif3> I can
[05:44] <unix_infidel> zak_: uhh, access?
[05:44] <unix_infidel> access is a database app, most of the program is just a table.  creating links in a table is a simple task.
[05:45] <zak_> unix_infidel: i've never actually used it :s but i need to soon
[05:47] <root_> #ceara
[05:53] <flaccid> !upgrade
[05:53] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:53] <flaccid> i am really close
[06:01] <flaccid> !X
[06:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:05] <flaccid> rightio
[06:05] <flaccid> heh
[06:05] <flaccid> i made my upgrade successful
[06:07] <RaNDyMyZe> edgy to feisty flaccid?
[06:08] <flaccid> dapper to feisty pretty much in the end
[06:08] <flaccid> brb
[06:09] <unix_infidel> made upgrade successful/
[06:10] <Alonea> when is the release date for fiesty again?
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> Alda, a couple of days from now, afaik
[06:10] <sonoftheclayr> Alonea: april 19
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> damn tab completion :)
[06:11] <flaccid> ok im back yay
[06:11] <Alonea> ok, I was looking for the date on the website and could not find it
[06:14] <flaccid> hows that i jumped to major releases to a dev version
[06:14] <flaccid> um two majore releases to feisty
[06:15] <Nick^69> hi
[06:25] <kai> can some remeind as to how to mount my ipd, I have the commands but I nca't access thru amarok anymore
[06:29] <flaccid> hey guys. recommended font packs
[06:29] <flaccid> i'm on feisty and it feels stable after my hectic upgrade
[06:30] <flaccid> and i must say feisty is heaps faster than dapper
[06:30] <flaccid> maybe its xorg7 i dunno
[06:31] <kai> ...is there any one that can help me mount my ipod
[06:32] <emet> yes fiesty is nice
[06:32] <emet> they seemed to improve the font rendering too
[06:32] <kalorin_> fonts are huge
[06:32] <kalorin_> like in general
[06:33] <emet> yeah I like it
[06:33] <emet> I use blubuntu theme
[06:33] <kalorin_> no I mean that's one of the biggest things that needs improvement
[06:33] <emet> apt-get blubuntu I think
[06:33] <kalorin_> fonts in general
[06:33] <N0Lif3> I'm trying to play videos in Kmplayer (using xine as the player) and all I need is black.
[06:33] <emet> heh
[06:33] <kalorin_> and video card support for multihead desktops
[06:33] <N0Lif3> all I get is black
[06:33] <N0Lif3> ^
[06:33] <emet> kalorin_: ATI?
[06:33] <kalorin_> the ATI drivers are a pain in the ass
[06:34] <emet> yeah well
[06:34] <emet> ATI/AMD sucks
[06:34] <emet> sorry
[06:34] <flaccid> well the fonts on my dont look 100%, but i havnt set nvidia prop. driver yet
[06:34] <kalorin_> well, I'm not sure that if you want to play games you're going to have a much better time with nvidia
[06:34] <emet> no Beryl for you either
[06:34] <emet> without buggy and unsupported XGL
[06:34] <kalorin_> I don't know and wouldn't until I get a different card to try
[06:34] <kalorin_> yeah no idea
[06:34] <kalorin_> what I'm noticing right now is that I can't get my monitors to do DPMS
[06:34] <sonoftheclayr> how do i change the nvidia kernel module or X module?
[06:34] <kalorin_> and go into power savings mode
[06:35] <emet> I wish there would be some way to convince AMD to make better drivers
[06:35] <emet> but they had like nearly a year to improve ATI's driver
[06:35] <kalorin_> their new ones are a lot easier to install
[06:35] <kalorin_> 8.35.5
[06:35] <kalorin_> that's what I'm running now iwth an x700
[06:35] <kalorin_> only real catch after messing around with it for a long time is that the xorg drivers woudln't work on install
[06:36] <emet> it still doesn't support Composite
[06:36] <emet> Nvidia and Intel support Compsite
[06:36] <kalorin_> and the ati drivers when X starts it starts wtih my screens in clone mode and then I have to tell it to use them as a big desktop
[06:36] <kalorin_> other than that it's ok
[06:36] <kalorin_> what's composite do for you?
[06:36] <emet> beryl/compiz
[06:36] <kalorin_> this ATI is the only card I've tried to really run x under
[06:36] <kalorin_> sorry pretty doesn't matter that much to me
[06:36] <kalorin_> I can totally live without fog effects on my windows
[06:37] <Alonea> Has anyone ever gotten Oblivion to work on Linux with wine or something?
[06:37] <emet> it's very impressive when you see it in person
[06:37] <emet> beryl
[06:37] <kalorin_> I'm sure it's pretty cool
[06:37] <kalorin_> I'm not sure it's more than eye candy
[06:37] <emet> oh it is much more then eye candy
[06:37] <kalorin_> kind fo like games, there are so many amazing looking games out there that are so pretty but have terrible game play
[06:37] <Peaker> kalorin_: Its zoom feature, negative, and several others are produtivity features
[06:38] <kalorin_> I still enjoy the old Unreal Tournament
[06:38] <kalorin_> that kind of thing
[06:38] <Peaker> I was very unimperssed when I saw it in youtube and screenshots - but very impressed when running it here :)
[06:38] <emet> Peaker: yeah I am rather fond of the scale plugin
[06:38] <kalorin_> yeah I've obviously never tried it, so I can't really comment beyond what I've seen as stuff on their webpage
[06:38] <kalorin_> right now I just want DPMS
[06:38] <Nick^69> how do I add or Install -x-libraries options on Ubuntu 7.04 plz ?
[06:38] <Peaker> kalorin_: annotate is good for lectuers and stuff
[06:38] <Peaker> kalorin_: (You can draw/erase on the screen)
[06:38] <emet> you can run it with XGL on ATI
[06:39] <emet> but expect a buggy experience
[06:39] <emet> the real way to run it is natively on X.org via the AIGLX extentions
[06:39] <emet> which ATI does not support
[06:40] <kalorin_> right
[06:41] <kalorin_> well I'm thinking about getting a 7600GT with dual DVI so I'll be ready when I can get some flat panels
[06:41] <emet> heh
[06:41] <kalorin_> its' hard to justify the cash at this point though just cause of our house situation
[06:41] <emet> my dream machine as of now
[06:41] <kalorin_> we've got one we're living in and one we're trying to sell
[06:41] <emet> dual monitors
[06:41] <emet> dual core chip with hardware virtualization
[06:42] <emet> good specs in general, and Ubuntu as the only partition
[06:42] <emet> with Windows virtualized
[06:42] <emet> :[
[06:42] <emet> I need money of course for this
[06:42] <emet> lol
[06:42] <kalorin_> heh
[06:43] <Peaker> emet: Did you notice in beryl, what happens when you maximize and try to resize a window?
[06:43] <emet> Peaker: the fluid effect?
[06:43] <kalorin_> I've got a Athlon 64 3200+ w/ 1gb of ram and an ATI x700 video card
[06:43] <emet> I love that effect
[06:43] <emet> I wish I could run beryl on this damn computer
[06:43] <kalorin_> I want to get a E6600 w/ 2gb of ram and an nvidia card
[06:43] <Peaker> emet: Not sure if that's the name - it doesn't allow resize when its maximized, so it just bounces back -- its pretty funny :)
[06:43] <AbortD> jiggle effect or something
[06:43] <emet> yeah that's one of my favorite
[06:43] <emet> I keep trying to do it on metacity
[06:43] <kalorin_> at some point in the future
[06:44] <emet> damn windows are too rigid
[06:44] <Alonea> I am finally going to try beryl since people keep on talking about it. Want to see what the fuss is all about
[06:44] <AbortD> its ok
[06:44] <Peaker> Alonea: ya its pretty amazing ;)
[06:44] <AbortD> i just like it for the cube Alonea
[06:44] <sonoftheclayr> can anybody help me? i need to know how to chnage the nvida kernel module or x module
[06:44] <Peaker> Its stuff like that that will probably get people trying Linux out - not productivity suites, better editors, etc :)
[06:44] <Alonea> Will see it here in a few minutes. Almost done installing
[06:44] <AbortD> wish there was a way to make all the taskbars seperate
[06:45] <kalorin_> DPMS (Energy Star):
[06:45] <kalorin_>   Standby: 31424    Suspend: 31424    Off: 31424
[06:45] <kalorin_>   DPMS is Enabled
[06:45] <kalorin_>   Monitor is On
[06:45] <emet> Alonea: don't try it with an ATI card lol
[06:45] <kalorin_> what's that mean to you?
[06:45] <emet> I got it to run but it breaks randomly
[06:45] <kalorin_> where'd it get 31424 from?
[06:45] <AbortD> what does it do emet?
[06:45] <emet> lots of stuff
[06:45] <emet> the fonts are broken under XGL
[06:45] <emet> really ugly
[06:46] <emet> the GTK+ theme is the default
[06:46] <AbortD> u sure you got the right graphics driver?
[06:46] <emet> there are no icons
[06:46] <emet> yup
[06:46] <emet> fglrx
[06:46] <emet> no other driver works with my laptop
[06:46] <emet> with opengl
[06:46] <AbortD> i wish i had a laptop
[06:46] <emet> heh
[06:47] <emet> just make sure it has nvidia mkay
[06:47] <AbortD> yeah i dont like ati
[06:47] <emet> I had nothing against them until I started using linux
[06:47] <AbortD> i use a geforce fx 5500 256mb ram
[06:47] <emet> cool
[06:47] <jordo23> Is there a way to change your systems name (net bios name, i think)?
[06:48] <Alonea> hmmm...whats the X Composite extension?
[06:49] <emet> beryl needs it to work
[06:49] <emet> ati driver doesn't have it
[06:49] <emet> best you can do is use XGL, which emulates it
[06:50] <AbortD> or shoot your pc
[06:50] <Yorokobi> jordo23, by system name do you mean the host name? (type 'hostname' in konsole) ?
[06:51] <jordo23> Yorokobi: Yeah....is that changed in /etc/hostname
[06:51] <jordo23> right?
[06:52] <Yorokobi> jordo23, use 'sudo hostname newname' then change it in /etc/hostname, otherwise, you'll have problems next time you reboot.
[06:53] <jordo23> Yorokobi: Does that ultimately overwrite that file?
[06:53] <jordo23> Yorokobi: I already changed it before you told me....
[06:53] <Yorokobi> jordo23, if it does, its not immediate
[06:53] <jordo23> If I run the command again will it overwrite what I have done?
[06:54] <Yorokobi> jordo23, if you only change /etc/hostname you'll run into problems; you have to run 'sudo hostname newname'
[06:54] <kalorin_> ok going to try these dpms settings and see if it fixes things
[06:55] <jordo23> Yorokobi: What I am saying is that I already changed /etc/hostname. If I run the command it should overwrite the changes I did and I will be alright....correct?
[06:55] <Yorokobi> jordo23, maybe; you'll want to check it afterwards to ensure the command and the file have the same host name.
[06:56] <jordo23> brb....I hope....
[07:02] <N0Lif3> I need help. I can't get videos to play in Kubuntu. Nothing I do works.
[07:03] <RaNDyMyZe> N0Lif3: what kind of videos?
[07:04] <N0Lif3> any kind, but to be speciific xvid video atm.
[07:04] <jtmoney> N0Lif3: you might want to use easyubuntu to get all the correct codecs
[07:04] <N0Lif3> easyubuntu?
[07:04] <RaNDyMyZe> !libxine-extracodecs
[07:05] <Yorokobi> !codecs
[07:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:05] <RaNDyMyZe> i guess he doesn't know that one, thanks Yorokobi
[07:05] <Yorokobi> np
[07:05] <N0Lif3> !easyubuntu
[07:05] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[07:09] <AbortD> what do you need to run a email server?
[07:10] <Ademan> ok i have a sort of emergency, i need to restart the KDE window manager without losing ANY of the session data, the mouse seems to work, but keyboard input does not
[07:10] <Ademan> i've tried starting 'kompmgr' and 'kwin' from a tty but no luck, they say they can't connect to an x server
[07:10] <Yorokobi> Ademan, run 'kwin' or 'kwin --replace'
[07:11] <Ademan> i think kwin from a terminal in my graphical shell would work, but i have no keyboard input there
[07:12] <Yorokobi> Ademan, how about 'kwin --replace --display :0' ??
[07:13] <SubOne> I'm trying to make a window decoration for kde using decgen, but when I compile my dec I get "error: kdecoration.h: No such file or directory"... What should I install to get this header file? kde-devel?
[07:13] <Ademan> Yorokobi: i'll try that thanks
[07:14] <Yorokobi> AbortD, IMHO, the first thing you need to run a mail server is an understanding of SMTP security so you don't create an open relay. Postfix is my MTA of choice but qmail is a good and secure one as well.
[07:15] <AbortD> hm
[07:15] <AbortD> Postfix?
[07:15] <B4C> i need help
[07:15] <parkermauney> Hello
[07:15] <parkermauney> with what?
[07:16] <kalorin> can someone look at their /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and tell me where the DPMS options are specified
[07:16] <kalorin> like in the monitor or serverlayout or device areas?
[07:16] <B4C> i cant dial through kpp
[07:16] <Ademan> Yorokobi: --device isn't a valid option apparently :-)
[07:17] <Yorokobi> kalorin, IIRC its in the Display area; it can be omitted, too.
[07:17] <Ademan> Yorokobi: any hope for using kompmgr or something? (also, i can't view the entire help output for kompmgr, and less won't behave right either)
[07:17] <Yorokobi> Ademan, 1s
[07:17] <Ademan> no problem
[07:17] <parkermauney> test drive americas most reliable network
[07:18] <B4C> to me?
[07:18] <parkermauney> yes
[07:19] <Yorokobi> Ademan, 'kompmgr -d :0' ... the -d is for display, none of the other options appear to be very relevant.
[07:19] <parkermauney> irc koonchy hell damn
[07:19] <Ademan> Yorokobi: i'll try it thanks
[07:19] <parkermauney> no prob
[07:20] <Yorokobi> Ademan, good luck. I'm outta here, its time for sleep :)
[07:21] <Ademan> rats
[07:21] <Ademan> didn't work...
[07:21] <Ademan> it started, complained about a lack of configuration file, and didn't return
[07:22] <Ademan> and it sure didn't seem to be doing it's job as a window manager
[07:22] <B4C> i m in india, parkermauney
[07:33] <pranav_> hi
[07:36] <calamari> hi
[07:37] <AngryElf> I've got libmad0 and libmad0-dev installed but k3b still says I need libmad installed to burn mp3s....what else do I need?
[07:37] <pranav_> AngryElf: He how are u installing it are you using apt-get??
[07:38] <AngryElf> yes
[07:38] <AngryElf> synaptic, but whatever
[07:38] <pranav_> are you bothered really about the depedencies??
[07:39] <AngryElf> when it prevents me from doing what I want to do, yes
[07:39] <Jucato> AngryElf: if you're trying to burn mp3's as audio cd's, you need libk3b2-mp3
[07:39] <Jucato> but if you just want to burn mp3's as mp3's (Data CD), you don't need it
[07:40] <AngryElf> the pop-up when you start k3b shoudl say that, and not libmad
[07:40] <sonoftheclayr> the nvidia drivers work with the generic kernel don't they
[07:40] <AngryElf> Jucato,  ty, works now
[07:40] <calamari> I'm following a guide that assumes gdm, but I'm using kdm.  It uses a [servers]  section, then a section for each server.. so that all are started up.  Can I somehow translate this for kdm?
[07:41] <sl8> does anyone have any good software reccomendations for centralized system maintenance?
[07:42] <anees> hi...is there any audio ripper in kubuntu
[07:42] <carutsu> anees try K3B 1.0 is really cool
[07:42] <carutsu> !k3b | anees
[07:42] <ubotu> anees: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[07:42] <ahlalo_elyon> How do I completely format a drive in Ubuntu?  I have an MP3 player that ubuntu corrupted (because of a crash) and I can't use it now.  I'm pretty sure a reformat would help... anyone?
[07:42] <anees> ok thanx
[07:42] <Jucato> !cdripping | anees
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdripping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <Jucato> bah
[07:43] <Jucato> !rip
[07:43] <ubotu> To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[07:43] <Jucato> anees: ^^^
[07:43] <carutsu> Jucato xD
[07:43] <Kite_DH> my firefox crashed and now it doesnt start anymore
[07:43] <Kite_DH> how can i be helped
[07:43] <anees> ok .. thanx
[07:43] <carutsu> Kite_DH try reinstaling it
[07:43] <Kite_DH> i did
[07:43] <Kite_DH> it still doesnt start
[07:43] <carutsu> Kite_DH
[07:43] <ahlalo_elyon> Kite_DH: Try running System Guard and kill any "firefox" processes.
[07:44] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: bad extension maybe
[07:44] <Kite_DH> there are no processes
[07:44] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: firefox-bin?
[07:44] <Kite_DH> if i start firefox
[07:44] <carutsu> Kite_DH try running it from command line
[07:44] <carutsu> I once had the link broken
[07:44] <dawn> !initramfs
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <Kite_DH> for a second that "new session" thing blinks up
[07:44] <Kite_DH> then it breaks down
[07:44] <dawn> !busybox
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about busybox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <ahlalo_elyon> Kite_DH: Run "firefox" from a terminal and watch the output.
[07:45] <Kite_DH> wait
[07:45] <carutsu> is there a way to mute the damn flash sounds in Konqueror?
[07:45] <Kite_DH> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/478
[07:45] <anees> hi...how can i check which packages are installed in ubuntu...and how to remove any pacakge
[07:45] <anees> plz guide me
[07:46] <ahlalo_elyon> How do I completely format a drive in Ubuntu?  I have an MP3 player that ubuntu corrupted (because of a crash) and I can't use it now.  I'm pretty sure a reformat would help... anyone?
[07:46] <ahlalo_elyon> anees: Use either Synaptic or Adept
[07:46] <carutsu> !apt|anees
[07:46] <ubotu> anees: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:46] <ahlalo_elyon> !adept |anees
[07:46] <ubotu> anees: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:46] <carutsu> !format|ahlalo_alyon
[07:46] <ubotu> ahlalo_alyon: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:46] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: try running scandisk on it in windows, the same thing happened with mine
[07:46] <ahlalo_elyon> carutsu: Thank you.
[07:47] <carutsu> ahlalo_alyon: np
[07:47] <Kite_DH> ahlalo_elyon: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/478
[07:47] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: I'd rather not HAVE to use Windows, although the support in LInux is absolutely horrendous... had nothing but corruption problems ...
[07:47] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: you can't run fsck on a windows partition?
[07:47] <anees> ok
[07:47] <sonoftheclayr> !fsck
[07:47] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[07:47] <dawn> i changed my /etc/modules file and I get this "sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" now
[07:48] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: My problem is that my MP3 player, every time I update it in Linux, gets corrupted in some form... though usually not this bad.  MTP support doesn't exist in Linux for this player, apparently.
[07:49] <dawn> how do I get back and reapply my backup of that file?
[07:49] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: And now, all the files I just copied to my player with Amarok have strange, random-character names... and they can't be deleted (read-only)
[07:49] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: what sort of mp3 player is, what filesystem and what do you use to update it?
[07:49] <carutsu> is there a way to mute the flash sounds in Konqueror?
[07:49] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: The player is a Sansa e260... used to be a great player until I switched to Linux.
[07:49] <Kite_DH> ahlalo_elyon: did you see it?
[07:49] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: yeah, the exact same thing happened with mine, run scandisk in windows (i know, i know) and never use amarok again
[07:49] <ahlalo_elyon> Had problems ever since.
[07:50] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: i just copy the files straight onto it in konqueror
[07:50] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: Well, since using my player in Linux, Windows doesn't recognize my player anymore... at all.
[07:50] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: you say it's read-only? copy the files onto your harddisk or something and reformat it
[07:51] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: That's why I was here... didn't know how to reformat it ;)
[07:51] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: gparted is probably the easiest
[07:52] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: what filesytem is it?
[07:52] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: I have no idea... I thought it used to be fat32... but I have no way of knowing now.
[07:52] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: type mount into konsole
[07:53] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: Just tried running gparted, but it doesn't list my mp3 player... is there some kind of setting I need to change?
[07:53] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: with it plugged in
[07:53] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: Ah... it's vfat
[07:54] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: on the top right there should be a devices dropdown menu
[07:54] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: Ah, yep... found it.
[07:54] <sonoftheclayr> what is the lowlatency image?
[07:54] <Kite_DH> hmm...
[07:55] <Kite_DH> somebody help please
[07:55] <ahlalo_elyon> Kite_DH: We've tried and you've ignored us.
[07:55] <Kite_DH> huh
[07:55] <Kite_DH> lets see
[07:55] <Kite_DH> i gave you the output
[07:56] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: Now, I don't see an option to format that drive... I've unmounted it, but I can't format it.
[07:57] <carutsu> Kite_DH: yes i saw it it's a weird output, the error is "segmentation fault"
[07:57] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: run firefox -safe-mode
[07:57] <Kite_DH> sonoftheclayr: how can i do that
[07:57] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: from konsole or run command
[07:58] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: if you right click on the partition you want to change you should be able to choose format or something from it
[07:58] <Kite_DH> sonoftheclayr: want to see output?
[07:59] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: sorry, no can do i don't have X at the moment
[07:59] <Kite_DH> oh
[07:59] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: Yeah... "Format" was greyed out... and when I tried to format it anyway, it crashed... the next time I tried to do it, it said it contained a mounted file system (although Ihad already unmounted it)
[07:59] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: unmount it from the menu
[08:00] <Kite_DH> anyway, here is what it says http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/479
[08:00] <ahlalo_elyon> i did
[08:01] <Kite_DH> oh wow, it works again
[08:01] <Kite_DH> hehe
[08:01] <Kite_DH> thx
[08:01] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: is that with the -safe-mode flag?
[08:01] <Kite_DH> sonoftheclayr: yes it is
[08:01] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: faulty extension or theme
[08:02] <Kite_DH> yes
[08:02] <Kite_DH> i uninstalled it
[08:02] <Kite_DH> =)
[08:02] <anees> ubotu: is there any terminal command to check whcih package is installed and how to remove it from terminal
[08:02] <Kite_DH> thx for your help guys
[08:02] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: np
[08:02] <ahlalo_elyon> sonoftheclayr: Again: "/sdb1 contains a mounted filesystem"
[08:02] <anees> I checked adept but i need command line help
[08:02] <sonoftheclayr> anees: do you know the name of the package?
[08:02] <anees> no
[08:03] <anees> I need to know which package is installed on my system
[08:03] <ahlalo_elyon> anees: There are thousands of packages installed... you need to be more specific.
[08:03] <anees> ok...you are right
[08:04] <Jucato> actually just 931 packages on a fresh install :)
[08:04] <ahlalo_elyon> Jucato: Oh shush ;)
[08:04] <flaccid> use dpkg -l
[08:04] <flaccid> and apt-get remove to uninstall a package
[08:05] <ahlalo_elyon> grr... I can't believe I have to use Windows to do this...
[08:05] <anees> flaccid:  thanx...u r genius....I love you
[08:05] <ahlalo_elyon> I'll be back.... assuming I can actually read this player in Windows now.
[08:05] <flaccid> sweet as then anees
[08:05] <sonoftheclayr> ahlalo_elyon: good luck
[08:06] <flaccid> after doing an upgrade from dapper to feisty with numerous apt/pkg problems, i am a bit more skilled on the package front
[08:06] <flaccid> and it hasn't crashed yet lol
[08:06] <sonoftheclayr> flaccid: the upgrade was a success?
[08:07] <sonoftheclayr> it should be possible to upgrade straight from the supported versions to the latest version without any troubles
[08:07] <flaccid> Linux IONATAEUS 2.6.20-14-386 #2 Mon Apr 2 20:34:35 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:07] <flaccid> so far yes
[08:08] <flaccid> sonoftheclayr: lol
[08:08] <flaccid> do yo know how many i have done - upgrades
[08:08] <sonoftheclayr> flaccid: a few?
[08:08] <flaccid> at least a dozen on ubuntu, each one had problems
[08:08] <flaccid> none of those upgrades a novice would of completed
[08:08] <sonoftheclayr> flaccid: really? the most trouble i've had with an upgrade is the wireless card
[08:08] <flaccid> yes really
[08:09] <flaccid> its not the same for everyone in the world. especially if you install additional packages and repos in the life of the former install
[08:09] <sonoftheclayr> flaccid: i guess i must be lucky
[08:09] <kalorin> ok this is so whack
[08:09] <flaccid> some are, lots are not "_
[08:10] <kalorin> my xorg.conf file no matter hwat I do ignores the DPMS stuf
[08:10] <kalorin> so I can't blank the screen after x minutes
[08:10] <kalorin> or whatever
[08:10] <erikja> !nvidia
[08:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:11] <abortd> there any good rpgs for linux out there?
[08:11] <anees> flaccid: i have some visio files...how can i open visio files in ubuntu
[08:11] <flaccid> visio is m$ isn't it
[08:12] <anees> yes
[08:12] <flaccid> file extension?
[08:12] <Jucato> anees: install dia or kivio
[08:12] <anees> ok
[08:12] <anees> let me tell you extention
[08:12] <sonoftheclayr> i have concluded that the nvidia legacy driver will not work with the 2.6.20-14-generic restricted modules, guess i'll have to install the 386 kernel
[08:13] <Jucato> sonoftheclayr: tried asking in #ubuntu+1 ?
[08:13] <sonoftheclayr> Jucato: yeah i have but i never get a reply
[08:13] <sonoftheclayr> i'll try again
[08:13] <Jucato> considering timezones... you might want to try later
[08:14] <anees> flaccid:  i think extension is vsd
[08:14] <sonoftheclayr> Jucato: okay, i'll ask every hour :)
[08:14] <Jucato> heh
[08:14] <anees> Jucato: i m installing dia and kivio
[08:15] <flaccid> anees: sounds good
[08:17] <Jucato> !away > XenThraL
[08:18] <XenThraL> Jucato: know how I can change konversation's behavior
[08:18] <XenThraL> when I press the set global away option?
[08:19] <Jucato> XenThraL: Settings -> Identity -> Away tab
[08:19] <Jucato> uncheck the "Show away messages"
[08:19] <XenThraL> cool
[08:20] <Cosmo_> hmmm I downloaded the printer drivers for my printer from the brother site but I can not figure out how to install this, every time I try to install it through the package manager it gives me "mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/spool/lpd/FAX1840C': No such file or directory"
[08:20] <XenThraL> looked (almost) everywhere and didn't see that
[08:20] <Jucato> :)
[08:27] <dj> hello
[08:27] <dj> all
[08:27] <anees> flaccid: i need to know which packages are installed starting with f...what what will be the command
[08:28] <flaccid> dpkg -l
[08:28] <flaccid> oops
[08:28] <flaccid> um
[08:28] <anees> i need to know which are started with f
[08:28] <flaccid> you alrady said that
[08:28] <flaccid> i'll check the man
[08:28] <flaccid> otherwise you'll need to use grep regexp
[08:28] <anees> ok...thanx
[08:29] <flaccid> its in the manual for it
[08:29] <flaccid> man dpkg
[08:29] <flaccid> in the examples
[08:29] <flaccid> dpkg -l 'f*'
[08:29] <anees> ok
[08:30] <anees> flaccid: thanx... i love u again
[08:30] <flaccid> hehe sweet np
[08:32] <abortd> !compile
[08:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:39] <anees> flaccid: i m again disturbing you...actually i've installed a game  flight-of-the-amazon-queen but not know how to run that game
[08:40] <flaccid> do you ever read the manual/documentation?
[08:40] <anees> no...
[08:40] <anees> i don't know where it is installed
[08:40] <anees> i don't know it's location
[08:40] <anees> i installed it via apt-get install
[08:40] <flaccid> what was the name of the package
[08:41] <anees> flight-of-the-amazon-queen
[08:41] <flaccid> she better be hot
[08:41] <flaccid> !flight-of-the-amazon-queen
[08:41] <anees> :)...
[08:41] <anees> hehe...no idea..
[08:41] <flaccid> !info flight-of-the-amazon-queen
[08:41] <ubotu> flight-of-the-amazon-queen: a fantasy adventure game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 35682 kB, installed size 53028 kB
[08:41] <flaccid> google is good in this situation
[08:42] <flaccid> or trying commands like flight-of-the-amazon-queen
[08:42] <flaccid> or looking it up on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:42] <anees> i tried flight-of-the-amazon-queen...but failed
[08:42] <terra> Hi, wie bekommt man die coole Kontrollleiste unter Kubuntu(Edgy) mit Bery hin --> http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/themes/tryglass.jpg
[08:42] <flaccid> the best thing is to look at the contents of the package
[08:42] <N0Lif3> I like how here on my mac, I can press that rarely used "menu" and irssi will jump to the next tab (as if I did a "/window next" command), I haven't been able to do the same with any other terminal software.
[08:43] <icecruncher> !samba
[08:43] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:43] <anees> ok...man...again thanx
[08:43] <flaccid> anees: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/games/flight-of-the-amazon-queen
[08:43] <icecruncher> tha's a cool game! lol
[08:44] <sonoftheclayr> anees: try /usr/games/queen
[08:44] <anees> ok
[08:45] <flaccid> should just be queen
[08:45] <flaccid> for the command
[08:46] <terra>  Hi, how can I get this cool taskbar with Kubuntu(Edgy) and Bery? --> http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/themes/tryglass.jpg
[08:46] <anees> flaccid: got it....thanx
[08:49] <flaccid> np
[08:56] <vignesh> I have an Intel 946GZ motherboard , I refered the manual and it says I need to install the sound card driver and then enable the mic..
[08:56] <vignesh> any idea how to do that ?
[08:59] <jtmoney> is there a way to suspend or hibernate from the command line?
[09:03] <CharlesHKG> i have been trying to install kubuntu onto an external HDD, but it doesnt seem to like scsi usb drives...can anyone help?
[09:05] <kashif_> helo
[09:05] <Astur> wenas
[09:06] <kashif_> kubuntu did not install arcmage becuse this software use for  chm file to html format
[09:06] <CharlesHKG> has anyone had problems installing kubuntu edgy?
[09:08] <anti_pop> how can i add adept-notify add as autostart ? somehow i disabled it some weeks ago
[09:15] <unix_infidel> anyone know if at the kernel freeze there will be a seperate release or is it just a management deadline.
[09:16] <unix_infidel> that being said, only a few days before servers are overloaded :P
[09:17] <N0Lif3> In KDesktop, under Behavior, there is a "Menu Bar at Top of Screen" option that'll put a toolbar at top that'll always show an app's "File, Edit," etc. This works well with just about every app I've tried it with. The only one that has been uncompatible with the Mac OS X-esque style toolbar is Opera webbrowser. Do you guys know how I can make Opera work with this KDE "Menu Bar at Top of Screen"
[09:26] <anti_pop> is it able to have the same visual setting as superuser as my normal desktop settings ?
[09:27] <anti_pop> *possible
[09:27] <jontec> I'm having a problem with fuse on 6.06 (live cd... yes, I know... but I really need to delete something off a linux partiation)
[09:27] <jontec> I cannot install ntfs-3g
[09:27] <anti_pop> the fonts are way too big for my small screen, and i dont like the colors..
[09:27] <jtholmes> anti_pop: yes i run all my windows as root and have the same settings
[09:27] <anti_pop> at least id make it red to warn myself :)
[09:28] <jtholmes> anti_pop: the  # in the prompt string tells you it is root
[09:28] <anti_pop> i mean, if i use font 123 as normal user, but then with superuser i get Sans or whatever the default font is
[09:29] <anti_pop> so how can i change root accunt settings ?
[09:29] <anti_pop> start the settings managing program as root ?
[09:29] <jager> that will work anti_pop
[09:29] <jtholmes> anti_pop: took the words out of my mouth
[09:29] <zezelle> jager:  salut
[09:30] <anti_pop> and will not cause problems as long i do only appearance stuff (colors, fonts, etc) ??
[09:30] <zezelle> ja you be okays sir
[09:30] <jtholmes> anti_pop: however i went the long way around and started root sessions for all my windows and saved session
[09:30] <zezelle> jager:   hello darling
[09:30] <jtholmes> anti_pop: i do everything and no problems
[09:30] <anti_pop> isnt this possibly dangerous, run everything as root ?
[09:31] <anti_pop> isnt this something, linux security is all about...not beeing root all the time O.o ?
[09:31] <jtholmes> anti_pop: yes but i have been doing this for years so I know what not to do
[09:31] <anti_pop> allright
[09:32] <jtholmes> anti_pop: yes again but i hate sudo except to keep other in check
[09:32] <jtholmes> anti_pop: other folks in check that is
[09:32] <anti_pop> understandably
[09:32] <jtholmes> anti_pop: i own the machine if i mess up then shame on me
[09:33] <anti_pop> hmm i need to be root only few times
[09:33] <anti_pop> but thats dependent of computer usage i guess
[09:33] <jtholmes> anti_pop: i found a long time ago   rm *   was very dangerous so i never type it until i do a  pwd
[09:34] <anti_pop> sorry rm is ?
[09:34] <jtholmes> anti_pop: sounds like you shouls use  sudo
[09:34] <anti_pop> i do :)
[09:34] <jtholmes> anti_pop:  remove files
[09:34] <anti_pop> okay
[09:34] <anti_pop> the shell delete command ?
[09:34] <jtholmes> anti_pop: not actually  it is a standalone  linux command
[09:35] <jtholmes> anti_pop: the shell is just a command line manager
[09:35] <jtholmes> anti_pop: it executes all the other commands in the linux toolbox
[09:36] <anti_pop> when i was very very new to linux (im still new, but know how to get many things fixed), it was a pain to find the delete command in recovery terminal
[09:36] <anti_pop> wasnt able to delete a autostarting service that messed everything up
[09:36] <anti_pop> until i found "rm" i guess
[09:38] <anti_pop> so what would be the command line to start the thing where i can change style, fonts, colors of kde ?
[09:38] <jtholmes> anti_pop: some newer folks use the GUI file manager but I am old command line hack and that is were i will have to stay
[09:38] <anti_pop> dont know what the program is called
[09:38] <anti_pop> well for file managment i prefer a GUI, just for a better overview
[09:39] <jtholmes> what release of  kubuntu
[09:39] <anti_pop> but with good skills @ the terminal its propably good
[09:39] <anti_pop> feisty
[09:39] <jtholmes> ok then do you see the rectangular K icon where the Windows Start menu Icon usually is
[09:40] <anti_pop> yeah, but i need to run is as root
[09:40] <jtholmes> anti_pop: no you can run as normal user
[09:40] <anti_pop> so i just need the command line to start the part of system-settings to change the visual apperance
[09:40] <anti_pop> you forgot, i want to change the settings for the root's gui
[09:41] <anti_pop> since its way too big for my small display and doesnt fit my color scheme
[09:41] <jontec> What you would need is to run the gui from the root user... but I've always had trouble doing a root kdesu <program> both on my 64-bit laptop and my 32-bit desktop (dapper and edgy on both)
[09:41] <jontec> I think...
[09:41] <jtholmes> anti_pop: r u going to login from the Kde startup as root or some normal user
[09:42] <anti_pop> ist it possible just to run that program with kdesu or sudo ?
[09:42] <anti_pop> *is
[09:42] <jtholmes> anti_pop: as far as I know you can only be one user at a time either root or some other user
[09:42] <jontec> for example, I can do kdesu konqueror and my user (jontec), but not as root
[09:43] <sonoftheclayr> how do i find the pci devid of my graphcics card?
[09:43] <anti_pop> sudo systemsettings ?
[09:43] <jontec> sorry not and my user.... as my user
[09:43] <jontec> sonoftheclayr: lspci might cough it up
[09:43] <jontec> oh or do you mean where it's mounted in /dev/ ?
[09:43] <sonoftheclayr> jontec: already tried it
[09:43] <jtholmes> sonoftheclayr:  lspci  -vv
[09:44] <anti_pop> jtholmes: that works, i can change the fonts and colors, etc now for the root account, logged in as normal user
[09:45] <jtholmes> anti_pop: whatever user you are logged in as is the one that will be changed
[09:45] <anti_pop> hehe even the settings of normal and root user at the same time, so i can copy every detail
[09:45] <jtholmes> anti_pop: if you su in a window the changes will only effect the user you originally logged in as
[09:46] <jtholmes> anti_pop: you have to edit  the  kdmrc  file to allow root to login
[09:47] <mackyman> Hey! I have problems getting mod_rewrite on my apache server. I have checked the forums, and found no solution. Seems like my apache-searver don't even want to use my .htaccess file
[09:47] <jtholmes> anti_pop: by default root is blocked from logging into KDE under [K] Ubuntu
[09:47] <anti_pop> jtholmes: look here: http://www.divshare.com/download/374227-678
[09:48] <jtholmes> anti_pop: that is in german, correct is that the display you want to see
[09:49] <anti_pop> you think changes in the root one will not take affect ? since its a normal session ?
[09:50] <jtholmes> anti_pop: if you login as  UserA  and you make any changes to KDE display then they take effect for UserA only
[09:50] <anti_pop> i will test it and let you know
[09:50] <jtholmes> anti_pop: if you login as root and make changes then they will take effect for the  root  user only
[09:51] <anti_pop> sudo kate
[09:51] <anti_pop> whoops wrong window
[09:51] <sonoftheclayr> anti_pop: use kdesu kate instead
[09:51] <jtholmes> anti_pop: remember  logging in as root is not the same as  sudo su -   in an X window
[09:51] <sonoftheclayr> always use kdesu for gui apps
[09:52] <jtholmes> anti_pop: when you login as root you are using the KDE info in  /root/.kde  not   /home/UserA/.kde
[09:53] <anti_pop> i dont have a root session available @ starting X
[09:56] <pranav_> anti_pop: ?
[09:56] <jtholmes> anti_pop: that is why i said you have to change  kdmrc  to allow root as a user that can login to the machine
[09:56] <gustavo> hellooooooooo
[09:56] <anti_pop> is it really so complicates to change the root's fonts, etc..i cant believe that
[09:56] <jtholmes> anti_pop: by default root is not allowd to login
[09:57] <anti_pop> and enabling that will add a "root" session to choose from ?
[09:57] <jtholmes> anti_pop: yes
[09:58] <anti_pop> can you tell me where exactly i find that option ?
[09:58] <gustavo> anyone can tell me why debians users are most stupid?
[09:58] <anti_pop> is this the groups/users thing in the settings 
[09:59] <jtholmes> anti_pop: in  kdmrc  file   set this   AllowRootLogin=true
[09:59] <jtholmes> anti_pop:  no it is a separate file
[09:59] <flaccid> gustavo: language :)
[09:59] <anti_pop> where is that file ?
[09:59] <gustavo> sorry, but thats true
[09:59] <gustavo> everytime i ask a question they first insult, and do not help
[10:00] <jtholmes> anti_pop:  /etc/./kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[10:00] <gustavo> i just cant understand that, lol
[10:00] <fer> wenas
[10:00] <anti_pop> thanks ill login as root now
[10:00] <flaccid> gustavo: thats pretty normal for irc
[10:00] <jtholmes> gustavo: sorry for the bad behavior of my fellow linux folks
[10:01] <flaccid> people in general are the problem, not debian
[10:01] <anti_pop> jtholmes: i cant see the option
[10:01] <Ayabara> people just ain't no good
[10:01] <anti_pop> i mean the new root session
[10:01] <mackyman> Can anyone try to help me with mod_rewrite? I have tried to get it working for several hours now...
[10:01] <jtholmes> gustavo: some folks get tired of answering the same questions over and over. i say get use to answering the same question we all had to learn at some poing in time
[10:01] <gustavo> jtholmes: its strange, itsnt the first time, always happens... :/  here ppl are most helpful...
[10:02] <jtholmes> gustavo: some channels are really rugged
[10:02] <gustavo> jtholmes: itsnt the point, it doesnt matter if the question is stupid or not :P
[10:03] <anti_pop> i have a "KDE" a "recovery" and a "standart" session or so
[10:03] <anti_pop> when do changes here take effect:  /etc/./kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[10:04] <gustavo> whatever...
[10:04] <jtholmes> anti_pop: do you see the file
[10:04] <anti_pop> i already editet it to "true"
[10:04] <anti_pop> allowloginasroot or whatever it was called
[10:05] <jtholmes> anti_pop: then logout and login back in you should have root login however, first change your root password
[10:05] <jtholmes> anti_pop:   sudo  su passwd    enter  new passwd
[10:05] <anti_pop> what would be default root password ? my user password ?
[10:05] <gustavo> when i try to shut a query or channel, i always close the irc app by mistake
[10:05] <jtmoney> is there a way to suspend or hibernate from the command line?
[10:05] <anti_pop> and why should i change my root password ?
[10:06] <jtholmes> anti_pop:  there is no default root pw it is garbage that is why root is locked out
[10:06] <jtholmes> anti_pop: if you dont change root pw you will not be able to login as root
[10:06] <anti_pop> can i use the same password ?
[10:06] <jtholmes> anti_pop: use any pw you want to
[10:06] <gustavo> sure
[10:06] <anti_pop> thanks
[10:07] <blairjame> how do i change root password?
[10:07] <gustavo> [05:05]  <jtholmes> anti_pop:   sudo  su passwd    enter  new passwd
[10:07] <dystopianray> jtmoney: try sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[10:07] <pparker> hi,i've got big problems with Xorg, somebody can help me ?
[10:07] <gustavo> blairjame: [05:05]  <jtholmes> anti_pop:   sudo  su passwd    enter  new passwd
[10:08] <anti_pop> jtholmes: sudo  su passwd    enter  new passwd <-- passwd = passwd for real or my password (understand eh?? ) ?
[10:08] <anti_pop> do i type "passwd" or my password ?
[10:08] <gustavo> passwd
[10:08] <blairjame> it says "Unknown id: passwd"
[10:08] <gustavo> then the password
[10:08] <anti_pop> yup
[10:08] <gustavo> like: su passwd mypassword
[10:08] <anti_pop> ok
[10:08] <pparker> i'm using kde and when i choose to logout it takes looong times (up to two minutes before closing X)
[10:09] <anti_pop> Unknown id: passwd
[10:09] <jtholmes> gustavo: thanks i had to step away
[10:09] <gustavo> no
[10:09] <gustavo> sorry
[10:09] <gustavo> do this way:
[10:09] <gustavo> sudo su passwd (press enter)
[10:09] <gustavo> then type password
[10:09] <blairjame> tried it that way too
[10:09] <gustavo> i mean, your password
[10:09] <blairjame> same error message
[10:09] <anti_pop> michael@BlackboX:~$ sudo su passwd
[10:09] <anti_pop> Unknown id: passwd
[10:10] <wolferine> lmao
[10:10] <jtholmes> anti_pop: my mistake    sudo passwd root
[10:10] <anti_pop>  sudo su passwd root
[10:10] <anti_pop> Unknown id: passwd
[10:10] <blairjame> there we go
[10:10] <gustavo> yeap... you need to specify the root, sorry
[10:10] <blairjame> thanks jtholmes
[10:10] <jtholmes> anti_pop:   sudo  passwd  root   enter  passwd  twice
[10:10] <blairjame> althought, considering we need to set a root password to install software, the INSTALLER SHOULD HAVE DONE IT.
[10:10] <AbortD> shouldnt sudo su | password work?
[10:10] <anti_pop> worked
[10:11] <gustavo> no, you need the user id
[10:11] <AbortD> hm i never do
[10:11] <AbortD> heh
[10:11] <anti_pop> ill try loggin in there
[10:11] <jtholmes> anti_pop: ok now you can logout and login backin change user to root and etenr root pw and presto
[10:11] <gustavo> if you want to change the pass you have to specify what user you want to set the new pass
[10:11] <premier_> Hi, I just downloaded a kdm theme from kde-look.org.  How do I install it?
[10:12] <premier_> Its a .tar.gz file that unpacks to include a .desktop file, a .xml file, and a couple of .pngs
[10:12] <jtholmes> AbortD: dont think so  that would pipe outptu of sudo command into command  password   not familiar with  command  password
[10:13] <pparker> i really need some help for my systems lockups, please help me !!
[10:14] <AbortD> i see jtholmes
[10:14] <jtholmes> pparker: what kind of lockups
[10:15] <pparker> jtholmes: when i logout it takes up to 5 minutes before closing X
[10:16] <AbortD> lol
[10:17] <pparker> jtholmes: when i leave it alone , when i return X uses all my cpu
[10:17] <AbortD> bwahahaa
[10:17] <jtholmes> pparker: sounds like X is waiting on something   look  in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:17] <jtholmes> and see waht x is doing
[10:18] <pparker> i looked and saw nothing
[10:18] <pparker> nothing wrong
[10:18] <jtholmes> pparker: what do u mean when you return
[10:18] <AbortD> does x always use alot of cpu?
[10:19] <pparker> no only when i leave it alone for a while
[10:19] <AbortD> hm
[10:19] <livenicely> hello
[10:20] <AbortD> ?
[10:20] <jtholmes> pparker: did this just start happening
[10:20] <livenicely> when i play .dat file or vcd in kaffiene i can hear sound
[10:20] <livenicely> no sound in kaffiene with .dat file? help me plz?
[10:21] <mackyman> WHEY! Atlast got mod_rewrite to work ^^
[10:21] <pparker> jtholmes: i disabled my screensaver and use nv driver but it still crashes
[10:22] <puppetmaster> I want to know how to configure GRUB?
[10:22] <jtholmes> pparker: did this behavior just start occuring lately
[10:22] <puppetmaster> How to edit the boot screen in ubuntu?
[10:23] <pparker> jtholmes: i'm using kubuntu for quite some time
[10:23] <jtholmes> puppetmaster: do you mean the grub selection menu
[10:23] <puppetmaster> yes
[10:23] <puppetmaster> there is alot of lines and I only need two
[10:23] <jtholmes> puppetmaster: /boot/grub/menu.lst  contains that info
[10:23] <puppetmaster> windows and ubuntu
[10:23] <AbortD> delete them
[10:24] <busfahrer> I switched from kdm back to gdm back to kdm, now I want the 'kubuntu' logo during boot back, instead of the ubuntu logo. How do I do that?
[10:24] <puppetmaster> I want the windows to be indefault
[10:24] <puppetmaster> how to?
[10:24] <jtmoney> yo
[10:24] <puppetmaster> I want the windows be default
[10:25] <jtholmes> puppetmaster: near top of file says  default  and has a number that is the number of the entry
[10:25] <livenicely> no sound in kaffiene with .dat file? help me plz?
[10:25] <jtholmes> pparker: yes but wehn did this behaviour start
[10:26] <jtholmes> puppetmaster: sorry my mistake confused  lilo and grub
[10:27] <pparker> jtholmes: when i leave my computer for some time and when i go back it uses all my cpu
[10:27] <kraut> moin
[10:27] <jtholmes> puppetmaster:  need to enter savedefault as one of the options in the particular  boot section
[10:27] <jtholmes> pparker: yes i understand taht, but when did this start occurring?
[10:27] <pparker> jtholmes: i can only move my mouse but click don't work and keyboard too
[10:28] <pparker> jtholmes: i think it's 2 months old
[10:28] <jtholmes> puppetmaster: move the windows grub lines to the top of the file and ad teh attrib  savedefault in that sequence
[10:29] <jtholmes> pparker: then you might want to try to reconfig X with the following command
[10:29] <livenicely> no sound in kaffiene with .dat file? help me plz?
[10:30] <jtholmes> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:30] <jtholmes> pparker: until you get to a known state there is not telling what is happening
[10:30] <pparker> jtholmes: i laready looked at my xorg.conf
[10:30] <puppetmaster> there are 3 lines Do I move them all?
[10:31] <jtholmes> puppetmaster: yes move them all but first keep a copy of the existing file
[10:31] <puppetmaster> title		Microsoft SiCoXP-SP3 Professional
[10:31] <puppetmaster> root		(hd0,0)
[10:31] <puppetmaster> savedefault
[10:31] <puppetmaster> makeactive
[10:31] <puppetmaster> chainloader	+1
[10:31] <puppetmaster> What shpuld I do?
[10:31] <busfahrer> I switched from kdm back to gdm back to kdm, now I want the 'kubuntu' logo during boot back, instead of the ubuntu logo. How do I do that?
[10:31] <puppetmaster> So
[10:31] <jtholmes> puppetmaster: move all 5 and the savedefault is already there
[10:31] <puppetmaster> ok
[10:31] <puppetmaster> thanks
[10:32] <pparker> jtholmes: i think kdm segault or something like that
[10:33] <pparker> because i already read some problems with kdm
[10:33] <puppetmaster> There is another savedefault option on the firist ubuntu line do i del it?
[10:33] <jtholmes> pparker: one thing you might try is to move your /home/USER/.kde  to  /home/USER/.Okde and logout and log back in and it will create a new .kde directory and that might solve your problem
[10:34] <puppetmaster> ?
[10:34] <jtholmes> puppetmaster: no it will only take effect if you boot that entry
[10:34] <pparker> jtholmes: or i create a new account
[10:34] <puppetmaster> so
[10:34] <puppetmaster> I leave it the way it is
[10:34] <puppetmaster> ?
[10:34] <jtholmes> pparker: yes or create new acct
[10:35] <jtholmes> puppetmaster: yes leave it the way it is but know that what ever booted last and has the savedefault will be the default then next time
[10:35] <jtholmes> puppetmaster: dont remember how to make one permanent default look at the grub man page
[10:36] <busfahrer> I switched from kdm back to gdm back to kdm, now I want the 'kubuntu' logo during boot back, instead of the ubuntu logo. How do I do that?
[10:36] <pollyo> busfahrer: What is gdm and kdm?
[10:36] <busfahrer> polly: The login managers from Gnome and KDE, respectively?
[10:37] <icecruncher> yes
[10:37] <pollyo> busfahrer: How do they effect your system? Other then the loader?
[10:38] <busfahrer> polly: The first change from gdm to kdm changed the boot screen to 'kubuntu', but now it doesn't anymore, and I wan't the kubuntu boot screen
[10:38] <busfahrer> pollyo, sorry
[10:38] <jtholmes> busfahrer: the exact method escapes me at the moment google switching desktops and it should tell you how
[10:38] <pparker> jtholmes: i try it immediatly, hope to go back soon
[10:39] <pollyo> busfahrer: Isn't there something that will allow you to use any image?
[10:39] <jtholmes> busfahrer: google 'switching desktops'
[10:39] <icecruncher> jtholmes: yes, it's somewhere in there
[10:39] <mrigns> reinstalling the splash should do the trick
[10:39] <anti_pop> jtholmes: thanks, i was able to what i wanted
[10:39] <jtholmes> anti_pop: welcome
[10:39] <gustavo> i removed my kde and kdm but it stills as an option on the session manager, how do i remove it?
[10:39] <anti_pop> thanks for you patience
[10:39] <jtholmes> anti_pop: just be careful all windows will be ROOT
[10:39] <busfahrer> jtholmes: cheers
[10:39] <anti_pop> jtholmes: yes i will not login again
[10:40] <anti_pop> jtholmes: logged in as usual normal user again
[10:40] <icecruncher> anybody any suggestion on how to spee up the internet connection, (not the disabling ipv6 part)??
[10:40] <icecruncher> *speed
[10:40] <anti_pop> should i disable the "allow login as root" again, is this a security risk ?
[10:40] <sonoftheclayr> anti_pop: yes
[10:41] <gustavo> i removed my kde and kdm but it stills as an option on the session manager, how do i remove it? - is it possible?
[10:41] <mrigns> !repeat | gustavo
[10:41] <ubotu> gustavo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:41] <gustavo> yeah, yeah... i know that, thanks anyway
[10:42] <jtholmes> gustavo:  it is probably   dpkg-reconfigure  kde   but not sure  gogle   dpkg-reconfigure  kde
[10:42] <jtholmes> later guys it is going for 2AM here and I gotta work tomorrow
[10:42] <anti_pop> ok gotta go, thanks for all help, have a nice day
[10:42] <anti_pop> sun is shining!
[10:42] <anti_pop> bye
[10:43] <pollyo> busfahrer: In adept there seems to be quite a few items with the filter "splash"
[10:43] <gustavo> jtholmes thanks
[10:44] <mrigns> !ping
[10:44] <ubotu> pong
[10:44] <busfahrer> got it, thanks
[10:44] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: do you know by any chance if it's possible to continue adept after the download part?
[10:44] <pollyo> What are grub splashimages?
[10:44] <pollyo> Anyone ever look at the kubuntu-grub-splashimages package?
[10:44] <icecruncher> !splash
[10:44] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[10:50] <dawson> hello everyone!
[10:50] <icecruncher> anybody is it's possible to continue adept after the download part?
[10:50] <icecruncher> hi
[10:50] <dawson> Anyone have any ideas why wireless assistant won't connect to my network?
[10:51] <icecruncher> !wireless | dawson
[10:51] <ubotu> dawson: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:51] <icecruncher> have you tried that?
[10:55] <icecruncher> anybody, is it's possible to continue apt-get after the download part?
[10:56] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: i think so
[10:58] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: I'm debating wether or not to quit the update (because of limited time) before download completion or after. I'mm not sure if it'l mess up all the configurations, and or if you have to run dpkg --configure -a
[11:00] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: any advice?
[11:00] <unix_infidel> icecruncher: if its just downloading the packages, its likely that its not messed with configs as of yet.
[11:01] <icecruncher> unix_infidel: yes, but then, after I've started to unpack, does it matter?
[11:01] <unix_infidel> i'd wager yea.
[11:02] <icecruncher> so what's the best way to go about this? stop before the last part is downloaded?
[11:02] <unix_infidel> if its downloaded the packages, then it'll just use the most recent of the two locally or in repos i'd think.
[11:02] <icecruncher> right, but this is a dist upgrade
[11:03] <Dekans> does kopete support jingle library on feisty ?
[11:05] <N0Lif3> How can I set Kubuntu's desktop orientation to arrange icons to the right side (Mac OSX-style)?
[11:06] <icecruncher> N0Lif3: try the #kde channel
[11:07] <N0Lif3> icecruncher: will do
[11:08] <ubuntu> Question: Im on the liveCD. i want to install GRUB on my USB stick
[11:08] <ubuntu> the installation wizard recognizes it as 'sdd'
[11:08] <ubuntu> so at the end of installation wizard
[11:08] <icecruncher> !grub | ubuntu
[11:08] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:08] <ubuntu> i set grub to be installed at 'sdd' instead of (hd0)
[11:09] <ubuntu> but it didn't work
[11:09] <ubuntu> christ KDE is slow. thanks ice
[11:09] <icecruncher> np
[11:09] <ubuntu> but
[11:09] <ubuntu> what is (hd0) ?
[11:09] <icecruncher> ubuntu: your harddrive
[11:10] <ubuntu> which? i have 3. im assuming hda...?
[11:10] <icecruncher> the first one
[11:10] <ubuntu> so hd4 would be the usb stick, no?
[11:10] <icecruncher> i think it would be sdb1 or sda1
[11:10] <liam_> hi guys can you help me with a creative zen on kubuntu
[11:10] <liam_> ?
[11:11] <icecruncher> liam_: what kind of problem?
[11:11] <liam_> cant get it to be recognised in amarok
[11:12] <icecruncher> liam_: dunno, try using a program, they have one under add/remove if you've enabled the mutli and universe repositories
[11:12] <liam_> ok
[11:12] <icecruncher> !amarok | liam_
[11:12] <ubotu> liam_: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[11:12] <liam_> i just wondered if i needed seperate drivers
[11:13] <icecruncher> don't thnk so
[11:13] <terra>  Hi, how can I get this cool taskbar with Kubuntu(Edgy) and Bery? --> http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/themes/tryglass.jpg
[11:13] <liam_> thanks guys
[11:13] <icecruncher> np
[11:14] <icecruncher> terra, try #beryl
[11:15] <wilykat> ello
[11:15] <icecruncher> hi
[11:16] <terra> @icecruncher   I have installed beryl but how can I configurate it to do this things?
[11:16] <Kite_DH> can somebody help me?  my azureus crashed, this is the output http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/482
[11:16] <icecruncher> terra: I don't know sorry, did you google search it?
[11:16] <ubuntu> if SDA is hd0, how do i find out what SDD is?
[11:17] <icecruncher> ubuntu: how about you restart and unplug all the uneccesary drives. lol
[11:17] <wilykat> ubuntu: usually sda,b,c etc
[11:17] <ubuntu> if 'sda' is hd0, how do i find otu what 'sdd' is?
[11:17] <ubuntu> sorry!
[11:17] <ubuntu> didn't mean to post twice
[11:18] <ubuntu> wilykat: kinda more complicated than that
[11:18] <icecruncher> np
[11:18] <wilykat> could always run fdisk against each drive to recognise size?
[11:18] <icecruncher> Kite_DH: sorry, try searching on launchpad
[11:18] <Kite_DH> whats launchpad
[11:19] <ubuntu> as in "fdisk hda" ?
[11:19] <icecruncher> Kite_DH: a bug reportin gsite
[11:19] <Kite_DH> oh
[11:19] <wilykat> also if you know which ports your disks go into, sda will be port 1etc. fdisk /dev/sda then i think p prints partition table
[11:19] <icecruncher> !launchpad | Kite_DH
[11:19] <ubotu> Kite_DH: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:20] <ubuntu> doesnt work
[11:20] <wilykat> did you su or sudo?
[11:20] <wilykat> (sorry should have mentioned that)
[11:21] <ubuntu> its not that. just acts weird
[11:21] <ubuntu> if i do fdisk -l, it lists /dev/sd1
[11:21] <ubuntu> but if i do fdisk /dev/sd1, says it can't open
[11:22] <wilykat> if you type ls /dev/sd* what is listed, first scsi/sata disc should be /dev/sda not sd1
[11:22] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: i didnt find anything that can help me :(
[11:23] <icecruncher> Kite_DH: hmm, i'm sorry to say that i don't use berryl myself
[11:23] <wilykat> sda1 would be first partition on first disk
[11:23] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: eeeh...the question was nothing with beryl
[11:23] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: my azureus crashed
[11:24] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: and this is the output http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/482
[11:24] <icecruncher> Kite_DH: ah sorry, got mixed up
[11:24] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: hehe :)
[11:25] <icecruncher> Kite_DH; are yu trying to runn this over vm?
[11:25] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: v?
[11:25] <wilykat> ubuntu: any luck?
[11:25] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: vm* ?
[11:25] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: whats vm
[11:25] <icecruncher> !vm
[11:25] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[11:26] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: no, i just start azureus
[11:26] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: and it crashes
[11:26] <icecruncher> try reinstalling your java
[11:26] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: did you have a look at the error report file it mentions near the end?
[11:26] <icecruncher> because a lot of the errors are with libraries, so i'd hit on your java environment
[11:27] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: i saw that, but i dont know how to fix that
[11:28] <icecruncher> did you look at this hs_err_pid7782.log?
[11:28] <Kite_DH> where to find that log
[11:29] <Kite_DH> ah there it is
[11:29] <icecruncher> paste it will you?
[11:29] <Kite_DH> sure
[11:29] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/483
[11:29] <icecruncher> thks
[11:30] <icecruncher> I'd say it's the same thing
[11:30] <icecruncher> check line 5,
[11:31] <icecruncher> Kite_DH: think that might be where it is
[11:31] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: "it" ?
[11:31] <icecruncher> the error
[11:31] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: oh, well... lets see
[11:31] <lzap> what version of Kmail is in Fiesty?
[11:31] <icecruncher> inside this file Library=/usr/lib/jni/libglibjni-0.4.so
[11:32] <icecruncher> lzap: tyope in konsole "kmail -v"
[11:32] <Kite_DH> its a binary file
[11:33] <sonoftheclayr> lzap: 1.9.6
[11:33] <icecruncher> yes, and i believe it belong to the java part, as i said, you'd probably be best reinstalling java
[11:33] <Kite_DH> how can i do that
[11:34] <icecruncher> apt-get reinstall java?
[11:34] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: it's a problem with libglib-java
[11:34] <Kite_DH> sonoftheclayr: so reinstall?
[11:35] <Kite_DH> !java
[11:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:35] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: yeah reinstall it. sudo aptitude purge libglib-java && sudo apt-get install libglib-java
[11:35] <Kite_DH> sonoftheclayr: thx
[11:35] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: np
[11:36] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: do you know by any chance if it's possible to continue adept after the download part? (during the unpacking stage)
[11:37] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: no i don't
[11:37] <icecruncher> *apt-get
[11:37] <icecruncher> k
[11:37] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: adept or apt-get?
[11:37] <icecruncher> apt-get
[11:38] <Kite_DH> sonoftheclayr: azureus still crashes after reinstall of azureus and java
[11:38] <Kite_DH> sonoftheclayr: maybe restart?
[11:38] <icecruncher> Kite_DH: yes
[11:39] <lzap> kmail is very unstable with IMAP, and slow. I hope there will be much more stable version than from Edgy...
[11:39] <Kite_DH> !fsck
[11:39] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[11:40] <N0Lif3> What kind of battery lives do you guys have on your laptops? Mine runs for an hour on low-brightness, no wifi. It is kinda sad, but for a used-lappy, it's better than having a dead battery that can't hold a charge at all
[11:40] <lzap> 2 hours - ThinkPad R50e
[11:40] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: yes, it is possible
[11:40] <icecruncher> N0Lif3: wish i had a laoptop. lol
[11:40] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: how?
[11:41] <N0Lif3> icecruncher: hahah, yeah. I just got this one battery
[11:41] <N0Lif3> yesterday, I mean
[11:41] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: just hit ctrl+c and do the same command again
[11:41] <N0Lif3> damn. I was thinking of batteries
[11:41] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: really, even with a dist update
[11:41] <icecruncher> ?
[11:41] <N0Lif3> lzap: that's good. I wish I could pull 2hours.
[11:42] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: but the setup part has to be all in one right?
[11:42] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: dist-upgrade maybe, i remember when i upgraded from dapper to edgy i stopped it during the download phase
[11:42] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayrthat's what i'm doing, jsut that i'm running out of time. lol
[11:42] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: i wouldn't try it with a dist-upgrade unless you want a broken system
[11:43] <icecruncher> LOL
[11:43] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: still crashes :(
[11:43] <\etc\bin> hello all,does openswan create a tun0 interface when started?
[11:43] <icecruncher> Kite_DH: try the entire java runtime, lol
[11:43] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: use ktorrent instead?
[11:43] <\etc\bin> im using a gneneric kernel but i dont have tun0 device?
[11:43] <icecruncher> yeah, or wine, utorrent
[11:43] <Kite_DH> sonoftheclayr: but i still have files running in azureus
[11:44] <sonoftheclayr> Kite_DH: if you choose to save them in the same place you did in azureus ktorrent will scan them and pick up where azureus stopped
[11:44] <icecruncher> Kite_DH: and this problem was just today? did you run it before?
[11:44] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: yes, after i installed the java plugin for mozilla firefox
[11:44] <icecruncher> ahh
[11:45] <Kite_DH> i uninstalled it now
[11:45] <Kite_DH> and it still doesnt work
[11:45] <icecruncher> and it's till not working?
[11:45] <icecruncher> wow
[11:45] <tarelerulz_> This is beryle and the other one lets you kind of build your own interface for program by picking what bottons and so on for a program on the fly
[11:45] <Kite_DH> icecruncher: yes
[11:45] <lzap> N0Lif3: switch off all services (incl. syslog), turn off wifi, USB (
[11:46] <tarelerulz_> Do any know what that is called
[11:46] <lzap> N0Lif3: clock down the CPU, disable updatedb etc
[11:47] <Ginja_Ninja>  sorry to be a pain but can someone with permisssions knowledge please have a quick look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=406251 I am convinced there is a fast easy way of doing this. Thanks you very much.
[11:47] <Ash-Fox> chmod 777 /home/share
[11:48] <Ash-Fox> chmod a+rw /home/share
[11:48] <Ash-Fox> Ginja_Ninja, something like that.
[11:49] <Ash-Fox> You will want to use -R paramter to effect existing files in there.
[11:49] <\etc\bin> anyone?
[11:49] <\etc\bin> ^^
[11:50] <\etc\bin> !ipsec
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipsec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <\etc\bin> !openswan
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openswan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <\etc\bin> !vpn
[11:50] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[11:50] <Ash-Fox> !fishing
[11:50] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:50] <Kite_DH> :(
[11:50] <\etc\bin> sorry
[11:50] <Ash-Fox> I'm glad I don't deal with ipsec anymore, the iptable chain rules would drive me up the wall.
[11:51] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: Thanks will give it a go. Just hopes it allows the deletion of other users files.
[11:51] <Ash-Fox> Ginja_Ninja, it should
[11:52] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: Would the last seven of 777 give all permissions to people outside the "share" group ?
[11:52] <Ash-Fox> 777 give rwx to user, home, other
[11:52] <\etc\bin> anyone using openswan on his/her ubuntu?
[11:53] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: home?
[11:53] <Ash-Fox> you probably just want todo something like chmod -R a+rw /home/share
[11:53] <Ash-Fox> err user, group, other
[11:56] <dromer> hi all, does anybody know how I can read .nfo-files from the commandline?
[11:56] <dromer> at least vim doesn't get the formatting od the one I'm trying to vieuw ..
[11:57] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox:  Its bizzare. I get userB to create a folder and a text file in the "shared" directory and userA can only delete the text file not the folder. Have i missed something ?
[11:58] <Ash-Fox> It's probably the super chmod flag on the folder, I forget how that works.
[11:58] <Ash-Fox> YXXX <- the Y code.
[11:58] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: Wow, never heard of that one before
[12:00] <Ash-Fox> Ginja_Ninja, what does ls -ll /home/share say?
[12:02] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: It says "Total 92, then shows me folders within the share folder
[12:03] <koriel> I messed up grub...how can I use kubuntu live cd to boot my hd kernel?
[12:04] <CarinArr> koriel: your live cd should have option to boot from first partition
[12:04] <Ash-Fox> Ginja_Ninja, try this: csudo chmod 00000 /home/share && sudo chmod a+rw /home/share
[12:04] <CarinArr> else you can boot into live cd, fix grub, and boot back up
[12:04] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: http://www.cims.nyu.edu/cgi-comment/man.cgi?section=1&topic=chmod any use ?
[12:04] <koriel> first partition has windows
[12:06] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox:
[12:07] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: Neither user can now wrie to the dir.
[12:07] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: I reakky appreciate your help, has kept me up al night.
[12:07] <Ash-Fox> Oh right, 'chmod a+x /home/share' too
[12:09] <tarelerulz_> What do you need to install beryl ?
[12:09] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: :( UserA can delete user'sB file but not folder
[12:10] <CarinArr> tarelerulz_: proper graphics drivers
[12:10] <CarinArr> tarelerulz_: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[12:11] <Ash-Fox> Ginja_Ninja, any newly created files should be deletable by both. Existing, no.
[12:11] <Ash-Fox> In particular when it comes to folders
[12:11] <tarelerulz_> There is something like beryle ,but it lets you comsminz you gui for a program ?
[12:11] <tarelerulz_> Starts with an M
[12:12] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: Well files work but i need to be able to delete rename folders as well. hmmm interesting
[12:12] <Ash-Fox> Ginja_Ninja, can you create new folders and delete them?
[12:12] <Ginja_Ninja> not as a different user
[12:12] <Ash-Fox> Bloody hell
[12:13] <CarinArr> tarelerulz_: no idea what youre talkinga bout, unless you're talking about emerald but thats' just a theme manager
[12:13] <Ginja_Ninja> sorry, i am sure you have more important things todo
[12:13] <Ash-Fox> Ginja_Ninja, you're using 'mkdir' right?
[12:13] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: well actually i was using kde, is that wrong ?
[12:14] <tarelerulz_> I don't remember what it is called either I remember it beenig cool and you could  real chage the lay out of gui  . I saw it done with calulator
[12:14] <Ash-Fox> Ginja_Ninja, try using 'mkdir <folder>', it's possible konqueror is setting file permisions by itself.
[12:15] <Ash-Fox> If it works, then it's just a issue with Konqueror.. Hm, I wonder how one should solve this.
[12:16] <Ginja_Ninja> poo!
[12:16] <Ash-Fox> Ginja_Ninja, if I know it's konqueror, I can think of a workaround
[12:17] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: seems to be the same using mkdir :(
[12:19] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: Does it matter that the owner is root ?
[12:20] <Ash-Fox> Ginja_Ninja, it shouldn't.
[12:20] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: Because thats the only way to get a folder in /home
[12:21] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: hmm
[12:21] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: group id bit thingy ?
[12:21] <Ash-Fox> No.
[12:21] <Ginja_Ninja> lol, wish i knew what i was talking about
[12:22] <Ash-Fox> There is a default chmod setting that one can set on folders that determines the default permisions of files created.
[12:22] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: Would umask come into it atall ?
[12:22] <Ash-Fox> But I cannot remember what the heck that was.
[12:22] <Ash-Fox> Ginja_Ninja, doubt it.
[12:22] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: i see
[12:23] <Ginja_Ninja> Ash-Fox: It seems funny that nobody else on the forums (of the people who saw it. It does move fast doesnt it) has never tried to create a folder to share between its users.
[12:24] <Ash-Fox> I normally use file servers like samba to share between users.
[12:24] <Ash-Fox> But that's usually because the users aren't usually on the same machine
[12:24] <os2mac> what's the name of the website for bugs?
[12:24] <sonoftheclayr> !launchpad | os2mac
[12:24] <Ash-Fox> launchpad.net
[12:24] <ubotu> os2mac: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[12:29] <dv__> hello
[12:29] <dv__> I have  a problem: audio CD playback is completely broken here
[12:30] <sonoftheclayr> how can i change the theme of qt4 apps?
[12:30] <dv__> I insert the CD, and the HD light goes on, after about one minute finally a window appears what to do (play, encode)
[12:30] <dv__> kscd does not play anything, though
[12:30] <dv__> and kaffeine hangs
[12:30] <tarelerulz_> I went to installing beryl and did the command and I get on on direct redering
[12:30] <tarelerulz_> I am lost
[12:31] <dv__> and since there are zero logs, I have absolutely no chance of fixing this. :/ reminds me of windows
[12:32] <tarelerulz_> glxinfo | grep direct
[12:32] <tarelerulz_> direct rendering: No
[12:32] <tarelerulz_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:39] <treq1> hello, how do i enable 'double click mode' instead of 'single click mode'?
[12:39] <Jucato> treq1: System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Mouse
[12:40] <treq1> thank you :)
[12:44] <treq1> anyone can help me with this guide -->http://www.howtoforge.com/sharp_fonts_gnome_p2 for kubuntu?
[12:44] <treq1> or knows some link for other guide like this
[12:45] <lordbuba> burp
[12:50] <pollyo> Hello
[12:52] <lupul> does anyone know some photo editing program? like adobe photoshop for windows
[12:52] <lupul> please
[12:52] <lupul> for feisty
[12:52] <CarinArr> gimp
[12:52] <lupul> thanks. and for kde?
[12:52] <CarinArr> not sure.. krita maybe?
[12:53] <lupul> yes. but krita doesn't offer too much
[12:53] <lupul> and works a litttle slow
[12:53] <lupul> i'll try gimp thanks
[12:53] <Jucato> krita is more of a painting and image creation app than an image manipulation/photo editing app
[12:54] <Jucato> but it has the same basic image editing capabilities
[12:54] <lupul> ok
[12:54] <lupul> so do you know something more complex? please
[12:54] <CarinArr> don't know of any other kde ones though;)
[12:54] <Jucato> The GIMP
[12:55] <lupul> installing it now
[12:55] <CarinArr> there's a program called pixel which tries to be a photoshop clone
[12:55] <lupul> !photo
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about photo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <Jucato> they're both as complex as can be...
[12:55] <lupul> that's what i wanted to hear
[12:55] <lupul> thanks very much
[12:55] <CarinArr> however last time i used it it was horrendously buggy
[12:56] <lupul> shit
[12:56] <lupul> that's what i didn't want to hear :))
[12:56] <Jucato> !language
[12:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:56] <CarinArr> this is a year ago or so though, so it could be a lot better now
[12:56] <lupul> oups. sorry
[12:56] <Jucato> lupul: he was referring to Pixel
[12:56] <lupul> yes i know
[12:56] <CarinArr> she, but yes, i was referring to pixel
[12:56] <Jucato> which is a non-free app anyway
[12:56] <lupul> i was glad that it's a copy of pixel
[12:56] <Jucato> oh sorry, I forget :)
[12:57] <CarinArr> i'm all for free software, but sometimes there are no good free options;
[12:57] <CarinArr> ;) even
[12:57] <lupul> i know
[12:57] <lupul> thanks again
[12:57] <CarinArr> though, again, if you want to go non-free you might want to consider photoshop over cxoffice
[12:58] <jack_> hi is there an applet like a world map where you can put flags on places you have been or tag them with pictures, a bit like in flickr but as an offline thing?
[01:05] <pollyo> !adeptfix
[01:05] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:08] <pollyo> Anyone know if Firefox and Konqueror can be made to share the same bookmarks?
[01:12] <TheSpunkyLobster> anyone have any idea how i'd go about rescuing my dual boot system when it seems like all the parition tables have vanished and it can't boot because it says no operating system found?
[01:14] <pollyo> TheSpunkyLobster: Have you booted with a LiveCD or DVD to look at the partition information?
[01:15] <TheSpunkyLobster> yeah, i followed a guide on the ubuntu wiki to run the live cd and use the install to get to the bit about manually partitioning
[01:15] <TheSpunkyLobster> no paritions are there at all
[01:17] <pollyo> TheSpunkyLobster: I'm not sure if it matters but did you check the bios to make sure the drive is recognized?
[01:18] <TheSpunkyLobster> yup, the drive is detecting fine
[01:18] <TheSpunkyLobster> it's showing up on the live cd install as well, just not with any of the paritions, and it's telling me that the whole drive is unallocated
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> !info gpart
[01:20] <ubotu> gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB
[01:21] <LeeJunFan> you are going to have to use gpart to find your partition table paramaters, and then use fdisk -u to restore them
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> once that's done you should have everything back to working order, but gpart can take some amount of time on a sizeable hd. Of course if you have backups of your partition tables ( which hardly anyone does) you can skip detecting.
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> I think the livecd has gpart
[01:23] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok i can try that :)
[01:23] <TheSpunkyLobster> is the command just gpart from console? still a relative newby
[01:23] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: I've been there, I wiped out my partition table by accident once when I tried to write a floppy image, I wrote to the wrong drive and destroyed the first 1.4M of my hd.
[01:24] <TheSpunkyLobster> whatever i did, i did while the laptop was turned off heh
[01:24] <LeeJunFan> I had all my digital photos from 4-5 years on that HD, and when I tried my backup of those pics the DVD had gone bad.
[01:24] <TheSpunkyLobster> ouch
[01:25] <TheSpunkyLobster> i just tried gpart from the live cd and it says bash gpart command not found
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> yeah, so I learned how to recover :)
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: I think you can install software on the livecd - can't you? sudo apt-get install gpart
[01:25] <TheSpunkyLobster> k will try that
[01:25] <pranav_> I am not able to run mozilla after its installation
[01:26] <pranav_> I DID apt-get install firefox
[01:26] <TheSpunkyLobster> heh, just need to get the wireless card running... wish i had my kubuntu live cd and not the ubuntu one handy lol
[01:26] <pranav_> but Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib is the error that I get!!
[01:27] <pranav_> can i get some help??
[01:27] <pranav_> ?
[01:29] <kumamoto> pranav_: no errors?
[01:29] <LeeJunFan> pranav_: as opposed to that warning - which warning shouldn't stop an app from running.
[01:30] <pranav_> as mentioned
[01:30] <superman123> hello
[01:30] <pranav_> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib is the error
[01:31] <pranav_> Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers i meant warning
[01:31] <pranav_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:31] <pranav_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[01:31] <pranav_> (firefox-bin:5497): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[01:31] <pranav_> these are the warnings and errors given by the machinr
[01:31] <superman123> I installed beryl and is working 100%, I just want to know if there is anything I can install to give me more effects and animations?
[01:31] <pranav_> s/machinr/machine
[01:33] <LeeJunFan> superman123: you installed beryl-plugins-unsupported ?
[01:34] <kumamoto> superman123: I believe there are some plugins u can install check with adept
[01:34] <pranav_> ??
[01:35] <s-toned> Should I stay with the version of Openoffice.org shipped with Ubuntu or may I, without problems, upgrade to a version from www.openoffice.org?
[01:35] <superman123> thanks for the help will check it out.
[01:36] <LeeJunFan> s-toned: unless there's a feature you can't live w/o on another version I'd really think hard about it. It shouldn't be too much of an issue as long as you remove the ubuntu openoffice packages first.
 How do I install the beryl-plugins-unsupported?
[01:38] <pollyo> What does BREAK Install mean in Adept?
[01:38] <LeeJunFan> superman123: should be able to find them in adept, or sudo apt-get install beryl-plugins-unsupported
[01:39] <s-toned> LeeJunFan: I guessed so...
[01:41] <superman123> thanks
[01:42] <divansantana> Hey guys :)
[01:42] <divansantana> Does anyone know if I would like to request a new package to be packaged for ubuntu  where do I go? Who do i email etc?
[01:43] <divansantana> For eg, backuppc is 2.1.2 and version 3.0 is out since Jan 07 and wish I could apt-get install it in feisty :(
[01:43] <divansantana> Can anyone let me know what I should do to make this request know etc?
[01:44] <mackyman> Does anyone know where I can get some help with mod_rewrite rules?
[01:47] <divansantana> anyone please?
[01:48] <TheSpunkyLobster> LeeJunFan: ok i have gpart installed and running, what command do i need to use to launch it?
[01:49] <divansantana> Try a dpkg -l gpart|grep bin
[01:49] <pollyo> s-toned: It looks like adept has an update for openoffice (I'm using feisty not sure if that makes a difference)
[01:49] <geggam> http://www.workingwith.me.uk/articles/scripting/mod_rewrite mackyman
[01:50] <divansantana> and then run that command with a "kdesu gpart" or "gksu gpart" something like that
[01:50] <divansantana> Does anyone know if I would like to request a new package to be packaged for ubuntu  where do I go? Who do i email etc?
[01:50] <divansantana> For eg, backuppc is 2.1.2 and version 3.0 is out since Jan 07 and wish I could apt-get install it in feisty :(
[01:50] <divansantana> any ideas anyone please? :)
[01:51] <sonoftheclayr> after i generate a key with gpg how do i find it's id?
[01:51] <s-toned> pollyo: I'll try to purge everything (oo.o), prior to reinstalling again
[01:51] <mackyman> geggam: thanks... but.. well, I have tried those already...
[01:52] <geggam> divansantana, email the maintainer
[01:53] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok tried that divansantana, but i get an error saying open(/hda1): No Such file or directory
[01:55] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: I think sudo gpart /dev/hda is what you want to run.
[01:56] <TheSpunkyLobster> yay that worked :)
[01:56] <TheSpunkyLobster> says begin scan now :)
[01:57] <TheSpunkyLobster> just need to sit and wait now i guess heh
[01:58] <romkek> #ubuntu
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: yeah, once it finds the partitions it should give you starting/ending sectors, then with fdisk -u /dev/hda you create the partitions using the start and end sectors it gives you. It may find some that don't make sense, just disregard those.
[01:59] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok mate thanks
[01:59] <pollyo> Anyone know what BREAK (install) means in Adept?
[01:59] <TheSpunkyLobster> i'll just wait this out and see what happens :)
[02:00] <TheSpunkyLobster> more than likely i'll report back my confusion when it coems to the fdisk part in a bit :)
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> hello, apt is starting every morning, running an update of my package lists..i'm on dial up, and this really bugs me...how do I disable that?
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: gpart -W /dev/hda /dev/hda will automatically write the partition tables for you but it's fairly risky because unless you've either zeroed your entire HD or only ever partitioned it one time it will likely find pieces of old partitions.
[02:01] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok mate
[02:01] <TheSpunkyLobster> this drive had kubuntu/xp on it, but i can't remember how many reinstalls i did in the begining lol
[02:02] <mackyman> pollyo: That means that you have requested a install of the package, and another package is in conflict with it, so it can't be installed due to the conflict
[02:06] <pollyo> BRB
[02:09] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: are you on Edgy or on Feisty?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> Edgy
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: Edgy
[02:10] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: ah ok... Feisty's Adept has a GUI for that setting (when/if adept checks for updates
[02:11] <Jucato> let me see which file it modifies
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> thanks...
[02:12] <Jucato> found it
[02:12] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ the file is 15adept-periodic-update
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> thank you
[02:13] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: the first line says APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1";
[02:13] <Jucato> change that 1 to 0
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> ok
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Ok...well see if that works... thanks
[02:21] <pollyo> Hello
[02:23] <pollyo> Anyone know how to make photos available on my webpage?  do I put some type of link in a directory or something like that?
[02:23] <|Quest|> I'll be delighted if you join my channel #thelinux ! I need good ops. healthy discussions.  what ever you do, just be permanent user. keep it joined.    Every one is invited :)
[02:23] <|Quest|> #thelinux        thanks
[02:23] <pollyo> In addition can I password protect it on the webpage?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> pollyo: make photos available?
[02:24] <pollyo> nosrednaekim: Yes.  Pictures that I download from my digital camera.
[02:24] <pollyo> nosrednaekim: I think it puts them in specific directories.
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> pollyo just link to them..
[02:24] <pollyo> nosrednaekim: I setup a dyndns address and when you go to it the webserver shows a directory.
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> pollyo: ok....
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> I can get to them by navigateing i my browser to the directory
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> *in
[02:26] <TheSpunkyLobster> LeeJunFan: the scan has now finished... should it have detected the xp partition as well?
[02:27] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: probably, but it's possible if your partition table got damaged somehow than so did the first part of the XP partition that it would have detected.
[02:27] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok
[02:27] <TheSpunkyLobster> it brought up 4 paritions, 2 of which have no info for them
[02:27] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: you can assume that your XP partition started on 1, and ended on the sector just before the extended partition.
[02:27] <TheSpunkyLobster> and size of 0mb
[02:28] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok, the other two were an ext2 and swap partition
[02:28] <pollyo> Anyone know where my index file would be for my homepage?
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: likely you're HD was partitioned as hda1=XP, either FAT or NTFS?, hda2=extended partition which was the entire remaining part of your HD, hda5 - whatever would be inside the hda2
[02:29] <TheSpunkyLobster> ntfs yes, and that sounds about right on what things were set up as :)
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> pollyo: index file? it should be in the top level directory
[02:29] <pollyo> nosrednaekim: Ok.  Thank you.
[02:30] <TheSpunkyLobster> LeeJunFan: can you guide me through how to rebuild this with the fdisk command please?
[02:30] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: use pastebin to paste your results from gpart
[02:30] <LeeJunFan> !paste | TheSpunkyLobster
[02:30] <ubotu> TheSpunkyLobster: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:31] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok
[02:31] <solveig> Hi zusammen
[02:31] <solveig> Jemand da der mir evtl bzgl. meiner USB Maus von Logitech weiterhelfen kann?
[02:31] <TheSpunkyLobster> will just need to go get rehooked back up to the cable lan in the other room as i couldn't get the wifi to work heh
[02:31] <N0Lif3> My laptop has 4 multimedia buttons outside of it. In Windows, they would launch IE or Outlook, but here in Kubuntu they do nothing! I tried to use the keys as shortcuts of my apps, but no go. How do I map these keys?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> N0Lif3: get "klineakd"
[02:32] <solveig> Somebody here who can help me with my usb mouse from logitech, which doesn't work?
[02:32] <N0Lif3> nosrednaekim: thanks
[02:33] <solveig> Hmm
[02:34] <TheSpunkyLobster> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15040
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> solveig: those things ussually "just work"
[02:34] <solveig> ?
[02:34] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: okay. Well. the first thing you want to do is create a new partition, n - for type I'm not sure exactly which to use for NTFS, I'm not really familar with ntfs, I avoid it. It's either 7,86 or 87.
[02:34] <solveig> It doesnt work, thats the problem
[02:35] <Gavin> hello everyone
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> solveig: although you shouldn't have to do this... did you log out and log back in? restrt the X server?
[02:36] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: start sector will be 1, end sector will be 105145424 I think. Good thing is that we don't really have danger of damaging at this point the MBR and Part tables are already gone, so if we get something wrong it's just not going to work right and we can try again.
[02:36] <TheSpunkyLobster> so i'd use command fdisk -u /dev/hda
[02:36] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: yeah.
[02:37] <solveig> log out and log back in doesnt help... what are u meaning with "restrt the x server" ?
[02:37] <TheSpunkyLobster> hmmm says unable to open /dev/hda
[02:37] <sonoftheclayr> !gpg
[02:37] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[02:38] <TheSpunkyLobster> oh do i need to sudo?
[02:38] <TheSpunkyLobster> yes i do lol
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> solveig: once you log out..do a "ctrl+alt+backspce"
[02:38] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok i'm at the prompt for fdisk nw
[02:39] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: n
[02:40] <jeff_> hi, all
[02:40] <Gavin> Is anybody able to help a newbie to Linux install Kubuntu? I'm having trouble getting 6.10 to start X-Windows (No Display Detected)
[02:40] <Mena> !kfontinst
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kfontinst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: hrm, are you sure your linux was on an extended partition? ie - hda5?
[02:41] <TheSpunkyLobster> honestly no :)
[02:41] <jeff_> This is rather noobish and I'm happy to get a place to look for the answer, rather than a straight-up answer.  I'm looking for a little app that will sit in my system tray and give me a visual representation (bar graph, changing colors, etc) of my CPU load (and possibly other stuff like memory, etc.)
[02:41] <TheSpunkyLobster> i'm still a mostly linux newbie so it would have been where the installer wanted to put it
[02:41] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: gpart says primary, but I think that's just it's guess. if it is extended we probably have to leave another sector free at the end of the NTFS partition.
[02:42] <jeff_> And preferably something that's KDE, rather than something like gkrellm
[02:42] <[GuS] > Hello
[02:42] <TheSpunkyLobster> i did a standard install of xp, then used the livecd to install kubuntu using if i remember correctly, largest free space
[02:43] <TheSpunkyLobster> oh and split the partition off first maybe with a partioner in widows, but i'm not 100% sure
[02:43] <treq> hello, i am using firefox plugin for mplayer, and when i try to view a clip it is getting stuck on 'getting playlist..', tried on more than one website
[02:44] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: well, lets try recovering your linux first, we'll come back to the NTFS after we get your config info from the linux stuff.
[02:44] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: so back in fdisk where are you at now?
[02:44] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok sound slike a plan :)
[02:45] <TheSpunkyLobster> at the first prompt, it says Command: (m for help):
[02:46] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: okay, hit n for new, primary, type=83, start sector=105145425 end sector=229135088
[02:46] <pascutti> hi. Does anyone know where to get more ktouch lectures?
[02:46] <_Neil> you can tell its new kernel day
[02:46] <_Neil> the repos. is dying
[02:47] <_Neil> or is that just me?
[02:47] <TheSpunkyLobster> primary partition 1-4?
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: 1 for now - we may have to redo it later, but for now we just want to get to mount that so we can look at your fstab.
[02:48] <TheSpunkyLobster> partition 1 is already defined delete it before readding
[02:48] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: did you already to the ntfs one before?
[02:48] <TheSpunkyLobster> nope i've not done anything yet
[02:49] <TheSpunkyLobster> could it be from the livecd?
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: hrm, maybe we better get a list of partitions on there first, something isn't right. ctrl-c and quit fdisk, then fdisk -u -l and pastebin that too.
[02:50] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok onesec brb
[02:53] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: btw - after this is all done, fdisk -l -u > [filename]  and save it to a flash drive or something :) Then if your partition info gets fragged again it's easy to recreate, you can also use dd to save it and restore it, but I like having something more intelligable to look at.
[02:53] <TheSpunkyLobster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15044
[02:54] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: are you on a compaq?
[02:54] <anees> hi i want to start www in ubuntu...anybody help me plz
[02:54] <TheSpunkyLobster> nope running the kubuntu live cd on a samsung laptop
[02:55] <luc_> hi, i have feisty. in kdm > remote login > choose from list a pick some workstation and nothing happend. Ok kdm has been restarted. That's all
[02:55] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: okay, don't know if that's a legit partition or not. hrm. Owell, back to fdisk -u /dev/hda, we'll create (n) a new linux (type 83) on partition 2 with start sector=105145425 end sector=229135088
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: when that's done w to write the partition to disk
[02:56] <chell> hello
[02:56] <chell> I need your help
[02:56] <chell> i'm a recent KDE convert so please bear with me even if this is a stupid question:
[02:56] <luc_> How can i setup remote login to remote workstation.On the remote side everything ok. I tested from other pc and works very well
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> anees: what do you mean start www? you mean start a web-server or a browser?
[02:57] <chell> As you probably know, there is a nickserv on this irc
[02:57] <sonoftheclayr> chell: don't be afraid to ask :)
[02:57] <chell> I've got my nick registered and in Kontact there's an option where it asks me for a service and a password
[02:57] <chell> what do I put in as service to automatically identify myself
[02:57] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok done that
[02:58] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: okay, sudo mkdir -p /media/hda2 && sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/hda2
[02:58] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: if mount doesn't complain and nothing get's printed to the screen when you run that - that's good. :)
[02:59] <TheSpunkyLobster> no errors :)
[02:59] <chell> I think I've figured it out
[02:59] <chell> lemme test
[03:00] <JuJuBee> My users and groups mangement module seems to be broken.  How can I reinstall it?
[03:00] <chell> cool
[03:00] <chell> I've figured out how to do it!
[03:00] <cskj> hi can anyone suggest a good p2p application i should use with kubuntu 6.10??
[03:00] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok weirdly enough that looks likes files from an install not the last one if that helps
[03:00] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: okay, see if you can 'cat /media/hda2/etc/fstab'
[03:00] <sonoftheclayr> cskj: frostwire
[03:01] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: so you see the files?
[03:01] <pollyo> Anyone know how to activate public_html in apache2?
[03:01] <TheSpunkyLobster> i just looked through the konqueror
[03:01] <chell> I'm starting to like KDE
[03:01] <chijin> pollyo: just make a dir named public_html in your home folder
[03:01] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: okay, lets pastebin the /media/hda2/etc/fstab
[03:01] <cskj> ok
[03:01] <pollyo> chijin: Do I have to change a conf file?
[03:01] <chijin> pollyo: nope
[03:02] <pollyo> chijin: Ok.  Do I have to give it any specific permissions?
[03:02] <cskj> can i find that in adept sonoftheclay?
[03:02] <chijin> pollyo: i don't think so
[03:02] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok mate
[03:03] <pollyo> chijin: Do you know what the default file would be?
[03:03] <pollyo> chijin: index.html or something like that?
[03:04] <JuJuBee> pollyo : chmod o+rx ~/public_html
[03:04] <JuJuBee> then index.html or index.php will be found
[03:04] <chijin> pollyo: index.html will do fine. you don't need any index file though as the directory listing is on by default
[03:04] <JuJuBee> etc.
[03:04] <ubuntu> hi, just running kubuntu 7.04 beta live cd and needing help with the install
[03:05] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Do I use sudo for that?
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: the good news is we know we can get to the linux stuff, I'm a bit concerned about recovering the NTFS, due to the fact it says there's a compaq partition in there I don't know what or how much of the beginning sectors of the HD got corrupted.
[03:05] <JuJuBee> not necessary
[03:05] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Ok thank you.
[03:05] <JuJuBee> np
[03:06] <simarillion> Hi since I updated this morning I got error message kernel panic
[03:06] <simarillion> can somebody help me?
[03:07] <newuser_kubuntu> the setup wizard hangs on my comp at step 4 (partitioning) it shows "how do you want to partition" and then nothing more, but high hdd activity since a few mins
[03:07] <JuJuBee> pollyo : how did you make out?
[03:08] <pollyo> JuJuBee: error
[03:08] <TheSpunkyLobster> just tried to find the fstab and theres nothing there
[03:08] <JuJuBee> What is the error?
[03:08] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Not with the chmod
[03:08] <pollyo> JuJuBee:  The requested URL /~pollyo was not found on this server.
[03:08] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: did you finish your installation of kubuntu? and did you reboot into it at all before this?
[03:09] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Userdir is not required anywhere in the apache2.conf?
[03:09] <JuJuBee> pollyo ; what are the perms on  your user folder ~
[03:09] <pollyo> JuJuBee: I saw it noted on a website and did not see it in the conf
[03:09] <anees> sorry LeeJunFan was already done... actually the path is changed in ubuntu...
[03:10] <anees> LeeJunFan: thanx again for your support
[03:10] <JuJuBee> pollyo : by default, public_html folders will be read fine unless you changed the conf files.
[03:10] <anees> actually i was trying to start a webserver
[03:10] <pollyo> JuJuBee: I am not really good good with permissions.  How do I determine that?
[03:10] <pollyo> JuJuBee: if I ls -l
[03:11] <pollyo> JuJuBee: It has permission information 119 pollyo 12288 date time pollyo
[03:11] <TheSpunkyLobster> LeeJunFan: This installation had been up for about 6-8 weeks prior to today
[03:12] <TheSpunkyLobster> but the parition we just mounted was not the one that was there before... it was one from an older installation
[03:12] <JuJuBee> I don't understand?  can't make a 9 ?  drwxr-xr-x  is what we are looking for on /home/pollyo/public_html
[03:13] <pollyo> JuJuBeedrwxr-xr-x   2 pollyo pollyo       4096 2007-04-11 09:07 public_html
[03:13] <JuJuBee> The middle r-x is not important.
[03:13] <JuJuBee> K
[03:13] <JuJuBee> what about /home/pollyo ?
[03:14] <pollyo> JuJuBee: drwxr-xr-x 119 pollyo pollyo 12288 2007-04-11 08:41 pollyo
[03:15] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Do I need anything in the directory?
[03:15] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Or would it simply show an empty directory?
[03:15] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Rather then the error
[03:15] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: hrm, doesn't look good. My guess is that your new install AND your NTFS were both in the first portion of the HD where gpart didn't find anything.
[03:15] <JuJuBee> Have you verified that apache is running?
[03:16] <TheSpunkyLobster> that sounds typical for me lol
[03:16] <JuJuBee> If the directory existed, then it would show a listing if no index file was found (or empty if no files in it).
[03:16] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: there's really no way to do much to save it at this point :(
[03:16] <pollyo> JuJuBee: pollyo.gotdns.com shows a webpage would it say apache2 or just show the information?
[03:16] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Actually:   Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.1 Server at pollyo.gotdns.com Port 80
[03:17] <TheSpunkyLobster> so i'm pretty screwed then heh
[03:17] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: so it seems.
[03:17] <JuJuBee> That means appache is running.
[03:18] <TheSpunkyLobster> any way of trying to get the data off the parition we didn't find?
[03:18] <TheSpunkyLobster> and ironically, i'm sure i remember having this same problem with the parition we just found, no os found etc
[03:18] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: you could try gpart -f /dev/hda
[03:19] <solveig> back again
[03:19] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Any ideas why no public_html access?
[03:19] <solveig> nice, aber ctrl + alt + backspace NOTHING doenst work
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: it may be that gpart skipped over those because it saw that compaq partition, so it didn't scan inside it.
[03:19] <solveig> at the beginning the logitech mouse does work for a few minutes, but then it doesnt work... why?
[03:19] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Does it default to the following format: http://pollyo.gotdns.com/~pollyo
[03:20] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok will try that now then :)
[03:20] <pollyo> maybe I need to try /www/pollyo?
[03:20] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: probably best to sudo umount /media/hda2  too
[03:20] <JuJuBee> have a look at /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf
[03:20] <JuJuBee> No, should be pollyo.gotdns.com/~pollyo
[03:20] <JuJuBee> that points to your public_html folder.
[03:21] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok unmounted and running scan again with -f
[03:22] <TheSpunkyLobster> will now wait for ages again hehe
[03:22] <compilerwriter> What are you waiting for ages on the supnkylobster?
[03:22] <solveig> somebody there who can help me?
[03:22] <JuJuBee> pollyo : do you have a userdir.conf in mods-enabled ?
[03:22] <pollyo> JuJuBee: That file is not in there.
[03:22] <compilerwriter> soveig perhaps what do you need
[03:23] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[03:23] <JuJuBee> That is the problem then.
[03:23] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: okay, that's going to take a lot longer. So if I'm not around at the time it's done why don't you /msg me your e-mail addy, I'll mail you back with my contact info so we can get back in touch - in case there isn't someone else who can help you later.
[03:23] <solveig> My Logitech mouse doesnt work... at the beginning when the pc starts, it works, but after a few minutes I can only use the touchpad @ compilerwriter
[03:23] <JuJuBee> You have no config file telling apache how/where to load user web space from.
[03:23] <dinosaur-rus> is there support for "Mustek BearPaw 2400TA Plus" scanner in Kubuntu's sane?
[03:23] <pollyo> JuJuBee: It is in the available directory
[03:23] <JuJuBee> what is in /etc/apache2 ?
[03:24] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Should I just copy it to the other directory?
[03:24] <JuJuBee> ?
[03:24] <compilerwriter> Soveig are you on a laptop or do you have a tablet mouse combination?
[03:24] <Mez> gah, can someone tell me how to get my task list to only show the tasks from the current workspace... ? it's annoying me that it's showing from all
[03:24] <pollyo> JuJuBee: I have a /etc/apache2/mods-available/ and userdir.conf is there.
[03:24] <compilerwriter> soveig do you know the model of rodent you have?
[03:25] <solveig> compilerwriter I am on a laptop
[03:25] <solveig> rodent?
[03:25] <JuJuBee> pollyo : but not in mods-enabled?
[03:25] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Perhaps I need to copy it to mods-enabled?
[03:25] <compilerwriter> soveig a mouse is a rodent
[03:25] <solveig> Yeah, wait
[03:25] <compilerwriter> mice, rats, moles, voles all are rodents solveig.
[03:25] <JuJuBee> pollyo : read the README file  in /etc/apache2 , it tells how to load a module.
[03:25] <solveig> Logitech RX600
[03:26] <compilerwriter> all from the family rodentia biologically.
[03:26] <pollyo> JuJuBee:  No readme.  I'll have to see if there is a doc file package in adept.
[03:26] <jack_> hi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters the best site to check for hardware compatibility of a printer?
[03:26] <compilerwriter> Let me guess it is usb connected solveig?
[03:26] <solveig> Yeah, it is
[03:27] <compilerwriter> But then somewhere during the loading of the os the touchpad takes over?
[03:28] <Ash-Fox> pollyo, sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/file /etc/apache2/mods_enabled
[03:28] <solveig> I am working and then the mouse doesnt work, only the touchpad
[03:28] <JuJuBee> The files in mods-enabled are just symlinks to the files in mods-available.
[03:28] <JuJuBee> Just create a symlink to the file you wish to use
[03:28] <Ash-Fox> Honestly, I find the whole mods-availble, mods-enabled thing stupid.
[03:28] <Ash-Fox> Each mod should have it's own package
[03:29] <pollyo> JuJuBee: I'm 30 days into using linux.  How does one create a symlink?
[03:29] <compilerwriter> soveig How quickly does it quit working?
[03:29] <Ash-Fox> ln -s
[03:29] <solveig> when it works, then it works without problems
[03:30] <compilerwriter> solveig How quickly does it quit working
[03:30] <JuJuBee> pollyo : cd /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[03:30] <solveig> what how quickly?
[03:30] <solveig> Ah
[03:31] <pollyo> JuJuBee: I'm there.
[03:31] <solveig> from a second to another
[03:31] <JuJuBee> pollyo : sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.conf userdir.conf
[03:31] <compilerwriter> solveig Does the mouse work for a few seconds and then the computer reverts to the touchpad or does it work for a few minutes and then go to the touchpad?
[03:31] <JuJuBee> pollyo : also sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.load userdir.load
[03:32] <solveig> Its different how long the mouse works... few minutes most
[03:32] <Neil-> What is the program that gives the big big icons in a little bar at the bottom of the screen? Anyone know?#
[03:32] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Ok
[03:32] <JuJuBee> pollyo : when done, you need to restart apache.
[03:32] <compilerwriter> Have you tried booting up the machine without the mouse connected and then connecting it after all the booting has been done?
[03:32] <JuJuBee> sudo apache2ctl restart
[03:33] <pollyo> JuJuBee: ok
[03:33] <compilerwriter> solveig see question a few lines up.
[03:33] <solveig> Hmm no, I think so not
[03:33] <solveig> Should I?
[03:33] <compilerwriter> solveig:  I think that you have been lucky in that Kubuntu handles your touchpad correctly
[03:34] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Yes!  Thank you.
[03:34] <compilerwriter> solveig or in your case pehaps unlucky.
[03:34] <pollyo> JuJuBee: One or two qestions.  ln is a link command?  -s does what?
[03:34] <JuJuBee> No problem.  I am fairly new to linux as well and understand your frustrations.
[03:34] <newuser_kubuntu> how much space do you recommend for kubuntu? is 4.5 GB enough?
[03:34] <CheapSuit> on Feisty, anybody getting HARD FREEZES starting k9copy?
[03:34] <JuJuBee> Yes, ln is command -s make a symbolic link.
[03:34] <compilerwriter> solveig I think what might be happening is the laptop is recognizing both the mouse and the touchpad at boot and then has conflict of interest at some point as to which to take input from.
[03:34] <solveig> So I should boot now without the mouse and then log it on and ook what will happen?
[03:35] <JuJuBee> man ln for more info
[03:35] <pollyo> JuJuBee: I see I have a man page for it.
[03:35] <solveig> Hmmm and how to solve this?
[03:35] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Thank you again.
[03:35] <JuJuBee> np
[03:35] <compilerwriter> Solveig that may solve the problem.  Let the thing boot up totally, and then let it recognize your mouse as the last input method that it was connected to.
[03:36] <solveig> Okay, I will try this out now
[03:36] <compilerwriter> The other thing I could think of trying is to find out which module is responsible for touchpad support in ubuntu and stopping that process.  You would then be able to use the mouse, but not the touchpad.
[03:36] <liam> hi ive got a quick question
[03:36] <liam> ive been trying to get a creative zen to work on kubuntu
[03:37] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Do you know where I would stick the following line:        UserDir disable
[03:37] <solveig> I will try and turn back to tell @ compilerwriter
[03:37] <liam> looked for drivers and theres 2 scripts i need apparently
[03:37] <liam> why dont they just come with amarok?
[03:37] <CarinArr> compilerwriter: touchpads often use the synaptics driver
[03:37] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Would I put that in the userdir.conf
[03:37] <JuJuBee> Not sure what it means...
[03:37] <pollyo> JuJuBee: from what I understand it disables the ~root
[03:38] <compilerwriter> CarinArr: thanks for the input.  Do I seem to be making sense in my advice?
[03:38] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Might not be an issue.
[03:38] <bobdhicks> Newbie needs help. I tried following information to update to 7.04. It did not succeed. Froze and could not do something. I tried to use Adept Manager but it now gives me "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application
[03:38] <bobdhicks> before using this one." I don't have any running. Rebooted twice. Did no good. Any suggestions?
[03:38] <JuJuBee> That should already tbe taken care of in userdir.conf
[03:38] <CarinArr> compilerwriter: heh, i hadn't been paying attention properly, i though you were the one having problems;)
[03:38] <pollyo> JuJuBee: Ok
[03:38] <JuJuBee> UserDir disabled root
[03:38] <CarinArr> what is the problem? the mouse stops working?
[03:39] <compilerwriter> carinArr That is correct.
[03:39] <liam> can anyone answer my question?
[03:39] <compilerwriter> Solveig is running right along, his usb wireless rodent, connected at bootup.  Then it stops working and he must use his laptops touchpad.
[03:39] <pollyo> JuJuBee: I see it is already in it.
[03:39] <compilerwriter> carinArr
[03:39] <pollyo> Ok great.
[03:40] <moby_python> has anybody here had thier wireless card return mode 802.11 D-S ?
[03:40] <solveig> So
[03:40] <CarinArr> solveig is a he?;)
[03:40] <solveig> no oO
[03:40] <solveig> a she!
[03:40] <CarinArr> heh thought not
[03:40] <liam> why cant anyone answer my question/
[03:41] <solveig> compilerwriter, I did like you told me, now I am waiting how long the mouse will work
[03:41] <compilerwriter> Sorry, I am just using the English pronoun one uses when one does not know.
[03:41] <CarinArr> anyhow, i suppose you can try to disable the touchpad, might even do that in bios andcheck if it makes a difference
[03:41] <moby_python> liam did you ask it?
[03:41] <liam> yes
[03:41] <moby_python> you could try again, I didn't see it.
[03:42] <liam> i asked why doesnt amarok come complete with all the required scripts
[03:42] <Cosmo_> what directory is the linux kernel in?
[03:42] <CarinArr> liam: while asking the same question over and over and over is pretty annoying, so is assuming that everyone will scroll up and find it;)
[03:42] <crazy_bus> I burned a dvd with k3b.  However k3b tried to burn at x12.5 speed.  The speed it actual burned at was more 4x to 8.5x but I was wondering if all the data on the dvd would be correct?
[03:42] <Ash-Fox> liam, don't know what you're talking about. Amarok works fine for me.
[03:42] <moby_python> you mean codecs?
[03:42] <fdoving> Cosmo_: the compiled binary images are in /boot/
[03:42] <liam> the problem is it wont recognise my creative zen
[03:42] <CarinArr> crazy_bus: can't see why not.. if you want to make sure you can set it to verify the data once written
[03:42] <moby_python> liam, I dont care for amorak either.
[03:43] <Ash-Fox> liam, I think you need to install the appropriate kioslaves for the support.
[03:43] <moby_python> liam, see I don't even know what creative zen is, is that a sound card?
[03:43] <liam> when i looked this up it said i needed to install 2 other things (libusb and something else)'
[03:43] <compilerwriter> solveig:  is the rodent still scrambling about properly?
[03:43] <crazy_bus> I didn't set it at the start.  Is there anyway to verify once its finished?
[03:43] <liam> its an mp3 player sorry
[03:43] <CarinArr> liam: can you access the zen if you mount it separately?
[03:43] <Ash-Fox> ash-fox@Trajan:~$ apt-cache search zen |grep -i creative
[03:43] <Ash-Fox> kzenexplorer - manage tracks and playlists on Creative Labs Nomad Jukeboxes
[03:43] <Ash-Fox> ash-fox@Trajan:~$
[03:44] <compilerwriter> carinarr has given me some other suggestions solveig if this doesn't seem to get the job done.
[03:44] <liam> when its plugged in its not even recognised
[03:44] <liam> so i cant mount it
[03:44] <Ash-Fox> liam, I found kzenexplorer in the repositories.
[03:44] <Ash-Fox> !kzenexplorer
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kzenexplorer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <liam> thankyou which repositories
[03:44] <draycos> hi. I just updateed my dapper drake installation, and I no longer get X. I can't load the 'nvidia' driver. Please help?
[03:45] <compilerwriter> carinarr is anything but touchpad support dependent upon the synaptics driver?
[03:45] <CarinArr> liam: if you can't mount it manually there's no reason why amarok would be able to..
[03:45] <Ash-Fox> liam, I have universe, multiverse, restricted and main enabled here.
[03:45] <NSCAD_Nathan> anyone know a good information site on archival media longevity?
[03:45] <liam> ok ill try that
[03:45] <Ash-Fox> CarinArr, it needs the kio_slave to support it
[03:45] <CarinArr> compilerwriter: not sure, i don't think so but i wouldn't bet my life on it;)
[03:45] <draycos> anyone?
[03:45] <liam> this will sound like a noob rant, but users having to do this is what holds linux back....sorry
[03:46] <solveig> The mouse is still working ;)
[03:46] <Ash-Fox> compilerwriter, like ipodslave for ipods
[03:46] <CarinArr> i take it that was for me;)
[03:46] <geggam> liam ... go play your media on Vista then come back and tell us what is wrong with linux
[03:47] <NSCAD_Nathan> Liam - are you having trouble using a creative zen in Amarok?
[03:47] <liam> i probably could
[03:47] <Ash-Fox> liam, this is what happens when you don't buy devices that don't use known standards.
[03:47] <solveig> Okay :-((
[03:47] <solveig> doesnt work
[03:47] <chell> lol, how do I take the "away" status on me away
[03:47] <newuser_kubuntu> need help installing, big trouble with partitions. I think im going to cancel this and hoping my windows still works. it just does not resize it
[03:47] <CarinArr> chell: normally just /away
[03:47] <chell> newuser_kubuntu, try the alternate
[03:47] <chell> CarinArr, doesn't work
[03:47] <liam> ok creative is a fairly well recognised company and ppl with ipods have the same trouble
[03:47] <CarinArr> chell: /back ?;)
[03:47] <liam> yes nathan i am sorry
[03:47] <chell> okay
[03:47] <solveig> compilerwriter - doesnt work :(
[03:48] <chell> I had tried /re
[03:48] <Ash-Fox> newuser_kubuntu, you're going to ruin your system if you cancel in the middle of partitioning.
[03:48] <NSCAD_Nathan> I have my Zen working great
[03:48] <compilerwriter> ash-fox Are you telling me it is like ipodslave for ipos and that touchpads are all it does?
[03:48] <NSCAD_Nathan> Amarok even uploads album art
[03:48] <liam> mine wont recognise it
[03:48] <compilerwriter> ok solveig perhaps if you get into your bios and disable the touchpad there.
[03:48] <NSCAD_Nathan> Are you using Edgy or Feisty?
[03:48] <liam> im in kubuntu
[03:48] <liam> edgy
[03:48] <newuser_kubuntu> ash-fox: thx for warning, but it does not resize!
[03:48] <Ash-Fox> compilerwriter, eh? ipodslave lets you drag and drop mp3s onto the kioslave to upload them
[03:48] <NSCAD_Nathan> It's automatically ready to go in Feisty
[03:48] <NSCAD_Nathan> I was having the same problem in Edgy
[03:48] <newuser_kubuntu> using feisty
[03:49] <solveig> compilerwriter: hmmm I dont know much about Bios
[03:49] <NSCAD_Nathan> Feisty works easy peasy
[03:49] <Ash-Fox> newuser_kubuntu, probably your partition is too full.
[03:49] <liam> hmm so i should just upgrade to feisty
[03:49] <NSCAD_Nathan> I think it's the version of Amarok which is the issue
[03:49] <NSCAD_Nathan> if you compile the newest version from scratch with certain libs enabled, it will work, but Feisty has already doen the leg work
[03:49] <Ash-Fox> You can use a later version of Amarok if you use the 'latest' kubuntu repositories.. let me get the lines
[03:49] <CarinArr> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:49] <CarinArr> er wrong window;)
[03:50] <liam> ok how do i upgrade to fiesty
[03:50] <newuser_kubuntu> i have 12 GB free and want to make it 6 gb smaller. getting warning about file system reporting x free clusters while there are y
[03:50] <newuser_kubuntu> i klick edit partition
[03:50] <moby_python> liam, at the top of the page
[03:50] <savetheWorld> newuser_kubuntu: time to run fsck on that file system
[03:50] <Ash-Fox> eb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest edgy main
[03:50] <chell> newuser_kubuntu, you might want to try the gparted live cd
[03:50] <compilerwriter> Well solveig I have been told that it is probably the synaptics drive in Kubuntu that is running your touchpad.  If you disabled it you may still have mouse function, but I am not sure if anything else is dependent upon that driver.
[03:50] <Ash-Fox> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest edgy main <- you can get the latest Amarok with this repository.
[03:50] <chell> that worked for me when I couldn't resize using kubuntu cds
[03:50] <liam> my fault sorry
[03:51] <liam> i should have seen that
[03:51] <NSCAD_Nathan> Try Ash-Fox's suggestion first
[03:51] <newuser_kubuntu> WHEY, now the installer went down. ok, going to run gtparted from another disk
[03:51] <NSCAD_Nathan> maybe that will work
[03:51] <Ash-Fox> Assuming you use edgy.
[03:51] <chell> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:51] <compilerwriter> solveig it could be that you would be cutting the tip off your nose to spiet your face taking that approach.
[03:51] <newuser_kubuntu> is 5 GB enough for kubuntu?
[03:51] <moby_python> liam, it takes a bit to do the 'upgrade'
[03:51] <Ash-Fox> newuser_kubuntu, vmware recommends 8GB for kubuntu.
[03:51] <NSCAD_Nathan> But updating to Fiesty is pretty painless - it's still beta and has some bugs though
[03:52] <moby_python> liam, you pretty much d/load the whole iso.
[03:52] <compilerwriter> solveig do you know how to get into your bios?
[03:52] <solveig> Yeah, sure
[03:52] <liam> ill try this thax guys , ill try updating amarok first
[03:52] <NSCAD_Nathan> Liam - I think there is a version upgrade tool, check out the kubuntu website for info
[03:52] <newuser_kubuntu> ash-fox, what do YOU recomment (do not have lots of space) do you think 5 GB will be enough for testing (i will not have a big /home)
[03:52] <NSCAD_Nathan> they are asking for beta testers :)
[03:52] <liam> ok will do thanks
[03:52] <chell> btw: as a recent gnome -> kde convert, I just have to say: KDE is *so* much better (especially amarok)
[03:53] <geggam> liam ... the linux support u get is from good willed people who want to help... telling them what they are supporting is junk inst a very good motivator
[03:53] <compilerwriter> ok, solveig, bios is usually a common sense thing.  You always have the option of exiting without saving the changes.
[03:53] <geggam> best of luck on the amorak issue
[03:53] <Ash-Fox> newuser_kubuntu, I think I can get kubuntu's default install in 2GB
[03:53] <compilerwriter> I am thinking, solveig, that is the safest bet.
[03:53] <newuser_kubuntu> ok, so 5 GB should be fine. 1 more gb for swap is enough with 512 mb RAM?
[03:53] <moby_python> I heard gnome is faster than kde, especially on fiesty
[03:53] <NSCAD_Nathan> So with all these geeks in one room - can anyone tell me the average lifespan of a shelved and moisture sealed HDD?
[03:53] <Ash-Fox> newuser_kubuntu, that's fine
[03:53] <solveig> Yeah I know compilerwriter... I only dont know where to find the touchpad in bios
[03:53] <chell> I'm using feisty right now
[03:53] <NSCAD_Nathan> first one with a reputable answer ges a candy cane
[03:54] <chell> and KDE is just as fast
[03:54] <chell> and believe me, my machine is ancient
[03:54] <geggam> NSCAD_Nathan,  i have a ten year old operational drive
[03:54] <geggam> on the shelf it would be hard to tell
[03:54] <CarinArr> newuser_kubuntu: you shouldn't need more swap than you have ram
[03:54] <NSCAD_Nathan> I'm trying to find an archival solution for our students
[03:54] <NSCAD_Nathan> they have HD film projects
[03:54] <moby_python> NSCAD, is it considered dead when it can no long hold the newest windows operating system?
[03:54] <Ash-Fox> CarinArr, 1GB of swap is usually the minimum in my opinion
[03:54] <NSCAD_Nathan> so a few hundred gigs of info
[03:54] <geggam> usb external drives for quick recovery... tape for disaster NSCAD_Nathan
[03:54] <newuser_kubuntu> ok, will give it the gig just in case, making it smaller wont be a problem. thx for the help
[03:55] <compilerwriter> solveig do you know the vendor and version of your bios?
[03:55] <liam> geggam, please correct yourself, as at no point did i call this software junk, im greatfull for the help i recieve, and although i struggle with linux i do prefer it to windows
[03:55] <CarinArr> Ash-Fox: if you have more swap than ram you're setting yourself up for some mad swapping
[03:55] <NSCAD_Nathan> geggam - it's something that doesn't need to accessed often
[03:55] <Ash-Fox> CarinArr, maybe if it were windows.
[03:55] <solveig> No, I dont know @ compilerwriter
[03:55] <chell> I set my swap to = RAM * 2
[03:55] <geggam> tape has been drowned in floods and had data recovered NSCAD_Nathan
[03:55] <NSCAD_Nathan> it's for archiving... and tape backup would pose too many problems for them to find a reader
[03:55] <chell> so I've got 1 GB here
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> if you use suspend to disk you might want 2x's the swap than you have RAM, but it's unlikely you'd ever need it.
[03:55] <geggam> its just slow as hell NSCAD_Nathan
[03:55] <liam> however it has to be said third party support and the technical knoweldge needed is what holds it back
[03:55] <NSCAD_Nathan> since they are graduating and going into the wide world
[03:56] <NSCAD_Nathan> I thought a HDD in a Pelican case might give them at least 10 yrs of time
[03:56] <compilerwriter> solveig that then rules out my finding any specs on the net to have an idea how to help you.
[03:56] <geggam> should NSCAD_Nathan .. drives in use average 5 years
[03:56] <pollyo> Do they have any firewall programs for linux that will let you know when a program is attempting to use a port and allow you to give it permission or not?
[03:56] <newuser_kubuntu> nscad_nathan keep multiple copies if its important. it will last a few years at least, and then you can cheaply copy it over do new disks
[03:56] <Ash-Fox> I generally have minimum 1GB swap, if I have more than 512MB ram, I add 512MB of physical RAM I have as the amout of swap space so I can put system into hybernation without a problem
[03:57] <moby_python> NSCAD, what about DVD-R 's ?
[03:57] <geggam> if u use DVR use verbatim
[03:57] <NSCAD_Nathan> moby-Python - aren't DVD-Rs terrible for long term storage?
[03:57] <solveig> compilerwriter, I will look now into the BIOS and look if I will find something
[03:57] <NSCAD_Nathan> that was my impression
[03:57] <compilerwriter> sorry solveig but I am out of ideas at this point.
[03:57] <chell> I'd use an external hard drive
[03:57] <chell> after a few years you can copy the data to a new one
[03:57] <moby_python> NSCAD, I've never looked into it.
[03:58] <geggam> solveig,  use the mouse on another machine...ensure it works
[03:58] <compilerwriter> soveig before you go what sort of laptop are you using
[03:58] <chell> or host the files online at streamload or so
[03:58] <newuser_kubuntu> dvd wont work if you have 100 GB...
[03:58] <chell> they make regular backups etc I believe, so your data should be safe there
[03:58] <solveig> Sure, the mouse is working all the time, at windows too
[03:58] <pollyo> What is the lifetime of a pendrive?
[03:58] <solveig> I have a Toshiba Notebook
[03:58] <NSCAD_Nathan> They have from 150-300 GB to store :)
[03:58] <NSCAD_Nathan> I think online might be a bit out of the question
[03:58] <chell> I've you've got 1 Gbit up lol
[03:58] <chell> *if you've ...
[03:58] <moby_python> 300Gb is about 30 DVD - rs ?
[03:58] <newuser_kubuntu> WTF is this: "cat: /dev/hda: No such file or directory"
[03:59] <geggam> sda newuser_kubuntu  ?
[03:59] <Cosmo_> I'm trying to install the VPN for my work but this is what it says when I try to install the software http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15047/
[03:59] <compilerwriter> solveig: my wife has a toshiba sattelite I may be attempting to solve my own future problem.
[03:59] <solveig> *g*
[03:59] <NSCAD_Nathan> I've never had a HDD fail through regular use.  Which is not the same as saying I've never had one fail ;)  Usually they just get replaced... :/
[03:59] <compilerwriter> geggam do you have any other ideas?
[03:59] <CarinArr> i have a toshiba satellite pro, it works fine
[04:00] <NSCAD_Nathan> this is a tricky one
[04:00] <NSCAD_Nathan> and the mighty Google is failing me
[04:00] <newuser_kubuntu> WTF? why is my internal IDE drive sda and not hda?
[04:00] <geggam> serial ata newuser_kubuntu
[04:00] <geggam> scsi emulation
[04:00] <geggam> im not sure compilerwriter
[04:00] <Ash-Fox> newuser_kubuntu, either sata drive or scsi
[04:00] <compilerwriter> carinarr how did you get the wireless chip to work on it?
[04:00] <CarinArr> worked out of box
[04:00] <geggam> i donthave the time to poke thatmuch
[04:01] <CarinArr> oh.. as long as you flick the switch on the actual laptop:
[04:01] <CarinArr> :) even
[04:01] <newuser_kubuntu> i do not think i hava SATA, thats the thing. other distributions detect it as hda. maybe that is the cause for my trouble
[04:01] <geggam> solveig,  check lsusb to see if the device is registered ... after that check lsmod to check for the appropriate module...
[04:02] <compilerwriter> I used my wifes sattelite to test out two live cd I had burned for friends and the only blasted problem I had with it was the wireless chip would no longer access my home network.
[04:02] <geggam> i have to shower and worl
[04:02] <geggam> work
[04:02] <CarinArr> compilerwriter: what model satellite?
[04:02] <newuser_kubuntu> well, trying a different live cd, cu all
[04:02] <compilerwriter> Thanks for the input geggam
[04:02] <chell> wtf
[04:02] <compilerwriter> Going to go check carinarr
[04:02] <chell> open office impress doesn't support SVG!
[04:03] <solveig> geggam how can I check lsusb?
[04:03] <chell> how can I convert an SVG to PNG
[04:04] <compilerwriter> carinarr it is an M105-S1011
[04:05] <CarinArr> chell: does "convert" not do it?
[04:05] <chell> what is "convert"?
[04:05] <moby_python> Chell, I use inkscape and export bmp as a png
[04:06] <chell> I'm looking for a Qt based solution (KDE)
[04:06] <CarinArr> chell: it's an imagemagick tool
[04:06] <sonoftheclayr> chell: karbon14
[04:06] <sonoftheclayr> !karbon14 | chell
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about karbon14 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <chell> I'll try karbon14
[04:07] <CarinArr> compilerwriter: i've a p100-465 so might not use same chipsets
[04:07] <compilerwriter> I am guessing not. carinarr
[04:07] <CarinArr> tho i'm not sure it qualifies as a "laptop", given the size of it;)
[04:08] <compilerwriter> carinarr: my wife about birthed an elephant when she saw ubuntu on her laptop.  There was not a snowballs chance in hell she was going to let me try the cat9 connection.
[04:08] <chell> lol
[04:08] <chell> sudo apt-get install karbon14
[04:08] <chell> it can't find it
[04:08] <CarinArr> lol
[04:08] <chell> universe is enabled
[04:08] <sonoftheclayr> chell: sudo apt-get install karbon
[04:08] <savetheWorld> compilerwriter: cat9?
[04:09] <chell> I though the name was karbon14...
[04:09] <compilerwriter> savetheworld regular network cable
[04:09] <sonoftheclayr> chell: it is but the package name is karbon
[04:09] <CarinArr> compilerwriter: she'd change her mind about ubuntu if you showed her beryl and the wobbly windows
[04:09] <sonoftheclayr> !info karbon
[04:09] <ubotu> karbon: a vector graphics application for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 942 kB, installed size 3260 kB
[04:09] <Dumahen> i need a virtual cd drive for my cd images what should i do ?
[04:09] <sonoftheclayr> !iso
[04:09] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:10] <Dumahen> thnx a lot
[04:10] <sonoftheclayr> np
[04:10] <savetheWorld> compilerwriter: "regular"?? cat3, cat5, ... but cat9?
[04:10] <compilerwriter> I don't thing so carinarr.  She likes her computer the way it is.  She uses it for instant messaging, email, and surfing.
[04:10] <compilerwriter> savetheworld:  I may very well have gotten my numbers mixed up in the cabling.
[04:11] <corbax> fr
[04:11] <corbax> french
[04:11] <corbax> here?
[04:11] <savetheWorld> ah, whew. Thought I was falling off the trailing edge of tech for a moment...
[04:11] <sonoftheclayr> !fr | corbax
[04:11] <ubotu> corbax: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:11] <corbax> lol thanks
[04:11] <sonoftheclayr> np
[04:12] <don_jr__> I just installed a program from apt, and it doesn't show up in any of my menues, how do I figure out how to run it? lol
[04:12] <savetheWorld> compilerwriter: hmm - guess I am falling off the trailing edge... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_7_cable  :-)
[04:12] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: type into konsole
[04:13] <sonoftheclayr> the package name is the first thing to try
[04:14] <compilerwriter> savetheWorld I should have said cat5e
[04:14] <savetheWorld> that like cat5 + cat4, right (= cat 9 :-)   )
[04:15] <compilerwriter> I swear I have heard someone talk about cat9 before, but who knows exactly what it was about and perhaps it was a joke.
[04:15] <chell> !info krita
[04:15] <ubotu> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 2542 kB, installed size 7932 kB
[04:15] <savetheWorld> maybe cat9 is fiber optic... :)
[04:15] <don_jr__> sonoftheclayr I tried the package name, didn't work...not sure where to look now
[04:16] <solveig> Sooo back
[04:16] <pollyo> don_jr__: You could look in adept to see where it installed files and look for something in a bin directory
[04:16] <solveig> In BIOS USB Maus and touchpad had been enable... I have set the touchpad now to disable
[04:16] <solveig> Waiting how long the mouse will work
[04:16] <solveig> but the next problem: the notebook dont turn off by shut down
[04:16] <don_jr__> pollyo I'll try that
[04:16] <compilerwriter> Glad you are back solveig.
[04:17] <cskj> hey can anyone tell me how i can install the latest version of java? i'm using kubuntu 6.10, n i am pretty new to it
[04:17] <solveig> (:
[04:17] <compilerwriter> I thought you had gotten upset with my little divergence into my own life.
[04:17] <solveig> lol no ;)
[04:17] <compilerwriter> didn't work? solveig
[04:17] <solveig> Work!
[04:18] <solveig> I disabled the touchpad in BIOS
[04:18] <solveig> No I am waiting how long the mouse will work
[04:18] <compilerwriter> Hopefully it will work for some length of time.
[04:18] <solveig> Yeah I hope so too
[04:18] <pollyo> cskj: I think you can get it with apt-get but you might have to enable some repositories
[04:19] <cskj> yea?
[04:19] <cskj> ok thanx...i'll try that
[04:19] <cskj> that's in add programs right??
[04:19] <pollyo> cskj: Do you have any version of java installed at this time?
[04:19] <chell> in impress, how do I set a specific png to be the background of a slide?
[04:20] <pollyo> cskj: If you do not then you will have to use terminal to install it because you can not accept the license agreement through adept.
[04:20] <cskj> yea
[04:20] <cskj> i think i have 5 installed
[04:20] <pollyo> cskj: Take a look in adept
[04:21] <pollyo> cskj K -> System -> Adept (If I recall correctly)
[04:21] <cskj> ok
[04:22] <Schuenemann> Hey, Is it possible to export a .psd to .html using Krita?
[04:23] <myRM`Solveig> :-(((
[04:23] <myRM`Solveig> Mouse didnt work again
[04:23] <pollyo> cskj: You could use a filter of java
[04:23] <bobdhicks> Following directions step by step online, I tried to upgrade to 7.04. Process failed. Closed the command window. Went to Adapt Manager which now gives me "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this
[04:23] <bobdhicks> one." Tried rebooting twice. Nothing changes notification. Any suggestions?
[04:24] <jhutchins> Why doesn't iwconfig display the key?
[04:24] <compilerwriter> myrm'solveig so now we have the issue of a rodent crapping out on you after so long and not a conflict correct?
[04:25] <pollyo> bobdhicks: Maybe the adeptfix?
[04:25] <pollyo> !adeptfix
[04:25] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:25] <compilerwriter> myrm'solveig did you try the touchpad to make certain you had indeed disabled it?
[04:25] <cskj> ok pollyo i've got 1.0.56-0ubuntu1 installed
[04:25] <moby_python> bobdhick did you try 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[04:25] <pollyo> cskj: Did you apply the "java" filter to see if there are any newer versions listed?
[04:25] <solveig> compilerwriter yeah sure the touchpad didnt work
[04:25] <solveig> I had to reboot
[04:26] <compilerwriter> well curses solveig, I am not certain what to tell you.  The mouse has fresh batteries no?
[04:26] <solveig> sure :(
[04:26] <cskj> yepp
[04:27] <cskj> no newer versions listed
[04:27] <solveig> By windows the mouse works without ANY problems...
[04:27] <BluesKaj> ok gents, what's the cli command for choosing the default browser ?...had it in my txtfile til the the kernel update crashed my system
[04:27] <compilerwriter> carinarr for some reason the mouse is crapping out on solveig it doesn't appear to be device conflict.
[04:27] <solveig> hmm
[04:28] <javi> just a question, is there any program which runs video and audio conversation for kubuntu
[04:28] <don_jr__> pollyo how do I use adept to find out where something was installed?
[04:28] <compilerwriter> solveig any chance you can use a PS2 mouse?
[04:28] <pollyo> don_jr__: Sure. It will tell you where all the files in the package were installed.
[04:28] <don_jr__> where will it show that?
[04:28] <BluesKaj> don_jr__, sudo apt-cache search
[04:29] <compilerwriter> solveig does the touchpad work for you at all times?
[04:29] <don_jr__> BluesKaj I have installed the package already, now I"m trying to figure out how to run it, typing in the package name didn't do it
[04:29] <pollyo> don_jr__: Click on the package name and it will expand with information and have an uninstall and details options.
[04:29] <solveig> Yeah, touchpad works all the time... I cnanot have a ps2 mouse on laptop
[04:29] <javi> hello!
[04:29] <rojanu> Hi ALL
[04:29] <stevethepirate> hello
[04:29] <pollyo> don_jr__: Under details it should have installed files tab
[04:29] <Schuenemann> Is it possible to export a .psd to .html using Krita?
[04:29] <don_jr__> pollyo okay, thanks
[04:29] <BluesKaj> don_jr__, look in your system menu/home folder
[04:30] <pollyo> don_jr__: That will list the installed files.
[04:30] <rojanu> is there a site which lists hardwares that works under linux
[04:30] <javi> does any one know whether there is a program which suport video and audio messenging
[04:30] <blekos> hello, i pluged in a usb HD, although I get the message "select action" and i choose open in new window nothing appears. P.S i didnt have any problem with the same HD in DDrake (now I have feisty fawn)
[04:30] <stevethepirate> people. my computer randomly restarts.. no error messages.. nothing
[04:30] <stevethepirate> any ideas howto fix/ check -why- it does it
[04:30] <Schuenemann> when does it restart?
[04:30] <stevethepirate> like random times
[04:30] <sonoftheclayr> blekos: what filesystem?
[04:30] <solveig> in the settings kubuntu tell me that I should search help bei "documentation" to solve the problem with the mouse oO@compilerwriter
[04:30] <blekos> ntfs
[04:30] <Schuenemann> restart everything? it boots again?
[04:31] <stevethepirate> ya
[04:31] <sonoftheclayr> blekos: you have ntfs-3g installed?
[04:31] <blekos> yes
[04:31] <stevethepirate> as if i flipped the power switch
[04:31] <don_jr__> hmmm, maybe this isn't what I wanted...all the installed files went to /usr/share/ and /usr/share/docs/
[04:31] <bobdhicks> ubotu: thanks. It worked.
[04:31] <Schuenemann> when I've had problems llike that, it was always hardware problems
[04:31] <Schuenemann> loosy cable, dirty, etc
[04:31] <blekos> i am running in dual boot, and can read/write in windows partitions without any prob
[04:31] <ackbahr> Hi! I'm trying to turn WMA files into MP3 (not OGG, portable player not compatible) and I was told XMMS could help; but I can't find the mp3 output pluggin it's supposed to have! Could anyone help? Thanks!
[04:31] <stevethepirate> Like how can i check what the problem is?
[04:32] <rojanu>  is there a site which lists hardwares that works under linux
[04:32] <javi> hello again, does any one know whether there is a program which suport video and audio messenging
[04:32] <solveig> and again no mouse
[04:32] <Schuenemann> I would open the computer and check if there's any loose cable or dirty parts
[04:32] <solveig> its getting on my nervers
[04:32] <stevethepirate> Schuenemann: none.. did that alrady..
[04:32] <moby_python> solveig ps2 or usb mouse?
[04:32] <sonoftheclayr> ackbahr: there is a script that does that, a quick google search should finf it, it does work you will need mplayer and ffmpeg
[04:32] <solveig> usb mouse
[04:32] <bobdhicks> Thanks, ubotu. It worked
[04:32] <stevethepirate> like heres my sensor results..
[04:32] <compilerwriter> At this point solveig I would try to catch geggam a little earlier in the day and see what he has to say.  He seems more knowledgable than me about the workings of usb.  Perhaps he will be able to help.  At least you have some sort of pointing device.
[04:33] <moby_python> solvieg, do thumb drives work on your usb port?
[04:33] <stevethepirate> Sys Temp:    +51C  (high =   +45C, hyst =   +40C)
[04:33] <stevethepirate> CPU Temp:  +35.0C  (high = +45.0C, hyst = +40.0C)
[04:33] <stevethepirate> temp3:     +43.5C  (high = +80.0C, hyst = +75.0C)
[04:33] <solveig> thumb drives?
[04:33] <stevethepirate> from 'sensors'
[04:33] <sonoftheclayr> i have problems with a usb mouse too, it worked fine and one day it just decided to stop
[04:33] <moby_python> er usb drives
[04:33] <ackbahr> sonoftheclayr: Thanks! I had found the wma3ogg script, but not that one... I'm gone looking for it!
[04:33] <stevethepirate> Schuenemann:
[04:34] <solveig> at the beginning when I start the PC, the mouse on the USB port is working
[04:34] <compilerwriter> solveig A thumb drive looks like what you have to connect your mouse, but is a flash drive.
[04:34] <stevethepirate> could it be ntfs?
[04:34] <Schuenemann> you're on windows?
[04:34] <moby_python> solveig, does it stop working after some time, or after you boot to kde?
[04:34] <stevethepirate> No
[04:34] <solveig> after some time, mody
[04:34] <solveig> moby
[04:35] <moby_python> sonoftheclay, did you update the kernel and it stop working.
[04:35] <stevethepirate> linux.. but i have a windows partition [ntfs]  with work on..
[04:35] <BluesKaj> solveig, using a laptop?
[04:35] <sonoftheclayr> moby_python: i might've done, i can't remember that much
[04:35] <compilerwriter> moby_python have you followed everything we have tried so far?
[04:35] <bobdhicks> Thanks everyone. The suggestion worked.
[04:35] <moby_python> no
[04:35] <compilerwriter> blueskaj it is a laptop.
[04:35] <moby_python> I've seen a little bit of it.
[04:36] <stevethepirate> schu
[04:36] <BluesKaj> overheating maybe
[04:36] <moby_python> I kinda figured it might be a usb driver especially if it is on an older laptop
[04:36] <stevethepirate> BluesKaj: was that at me?
[04:36] <compilerwriter> We have even tried disabling the touchpad in her bios moby_python.  It seems the mouse craps out on her after a time.
[04:36] <BluesKaj> no solveig
[04:36] <_dennis_> i still prefer the gimp and gaim (instead of krita and kopete), and because of these two programs i need al the gnome stuff ....has this a negative impact on the performance of my pc (or does it just take some extra HD space)
[04:37] <stevethepirate> How would i find the model number of my motherboard?
[04:37] <solveig> yeah, using a laptop
[04:37] <moby_python> solvieg, can you try using something else on the usb drive when it stops working?
[04:37] <kalorin> dennis likely it's just harddisk space
[04:37] <_dennis_> kalorin: tnx
[04:37] <solveig> no
[04:37] <solveig> have nothing here
[04:37] <bbeck_> Has anyone noted that their CD-ROM stopped working properly after this mornings security updates?
[04:38] <moby_python> does you mouse adapter have a light on it?
[04:38] <solveig> no, never
[04:38] <solveig> when then mouse works there is no light too
[04:38] <compilerwriter> solveig how many usb ports do you have on your satellite?
[04:39] <solveig> 3
[04:39] <solveig> all three doesnt work at the mouse
[04:39] <blekos> do u have any idea y when i run oo it is grey, has no icons, and has a big X on the top left corner instead of open office's logo? (The X is that u get when u run smg from commnad line)
[04:40] <don_jr__> I"m being told my nvidia drivers are old, is there a way I can get them updated?
[04:40] <BluesKaj> solveig, toshiba satellite ?... hehe daughter has the problem in windows ...no cursor after it loads the OS
[04:41] <solveig> jo toshiba satellite
[04:41] <solveig> in windows it does work without any problems
[04:41] <BluesKaj> wonder if it's a hardware problem with Toshiba laptops, solveig
[04:41] <solveig> hm
[04:42] <solveig> perhaps I am turning back to windows
[04:42] <moby_python> solveig, http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/xfree/mouse/
[04:42] <BluesKaj> solveig, I  did read that one of the overheating symptoms was , no cursor control
[04:42] <moby_python> that has some things you can do to check the problem out.
[04:43] <compilerwriter> solveig I would hate to see you do that.
[04:43] <solveig> yeah but its getting on my nerves
[04:44] <BluesKaj> solveig, returning to windows won't help your cursor problem
[04:44] <stevethepirate> Anyone.. howto see motherboard model number in commandline?
[04:44] <don_jr__> The older 8776 nvidia drivers for my card ship with edgy...is there a way I can get them updated to the 9xxx version?
[04:44] <BluesKaj> lspci, stevethepirate
[04:44] <BluesKaj> err
[04:44] <stevethepirate> BluesKaj: that only gives chipset information.
[04:45] <stevethepirate> Not actual motherboard model..
[04:45] <solveig> blueskaj: sure :) in windows my mouse works!
[04:45] <BluesKaj> not choipset but what ver you have onboard the pci slots
[04:45] <gdiebel> don_jr__: albertomilone.com/wordpress. get envy
[04:46] <stevethepirate> Yeah.. but i need the actual -model number- of my motherboard... akin to what CPU-Z gives..
[04:46] <BluesKaj> ok solveig , hate to see you go :(
[04:46] <solveig> :(
[04:47] <stevethepirate> BluesKaj:
[04:47] <Zoohouse> Hello every one. Quick question. I need to get the md5sum of a groupd of dir that have n number of dir within. How can I do that with md5sum without manualy having to type each dir? is there a -R or similar flag??? --man md5sum doesn't say..
[04:50] <geggam> for a in * ; do cd $a do md5sum * >> ~/mdfile.txt ; done
[04:50] <geggam> for a in * ; do cd $a ; md5sum * >> ~/mdfile.txt ; done
[04:51] <BluesKaj> ok gents, what's the cli command for choosing the default browser ?...had it in my txtfile til the the kernel update crashed my system
[04:52] <penta> hi, can anyone help me install feisty on a lvm partition?
[04:55] <BluesKaj> penta join kubuntu+1..it's the feisty chat
[04:56] <sonoftheclayr> penta: you might have more luck in #ubuntu+1
[04:57] <penta> thx
[04:57] <ewgeni90> hello
[04:57] <sonoftheclayr> hi
[04:58] <ewgeni90> its help chat?
[04:58] <sonoftheclayr> yes
[05:01] <ewgeni90> I'm the user of Kubuntu 6.06 LTS and i dont know why i dont can hearing mp3 music
[05:01] <corbax> !fr
[05:01] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:02] <LeeJunFan> !mp3 | ewgeni90
[05:02] <ubotu> ewgeni90: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:02] <ewgeni90> thank you!
[05:03] <horde> can anyone tell me how to find (thru BASH or GUI) my BIOS info?
[05:05] <horde> can anyone tell me how to find (thru BASH or GUI) my BIOS info?
[05:07] <jtholmes> !bios | horde
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <Rooger> hi all
[05:08] <jtholmes> Rooger: hello
[05:08] <Rooger> can anyine help me at all???
[05:09] <Rooger> hi jtholmes
[05:10] <jtholmes> Rooger: for a few minutes i can what is the question
[05:10] <Rooger> I want to run skype on Kubuntu 64 bit, but it won't let me
[05:10] <Rooger> I have heard of an emu for 32 bit, but I can't find it
[05:11] <_hansen_> Rooger: did you install the ia32-libs package?
[05:11] <Rooger> I think so
[05:11] <Rooger> I'll just check
[05:11] <jtholmes> Rooger: sorry out of my scope
[05:11] <Rooger> okay, no worries
[05:11] <BluesKaj> !browser
[05:11] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[05:12] <BluesKaj> !default-browser
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about default-browser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <horde> cheers, the command I was looking for was "dmidecode"
[05:13] <BluesKaj> anyone know how to make FF the default browser? ...I've lost the command
[05:13] <stevethepirate> in system settings you can set it.
[05:14] <Rooger> anyone know where I could get help with the 64bit version???
[05:14] <BluesKaj> no, that doesn't work for Thunderbird email links , stevethepirate
[05:14] <Rooger> that's not a web site
[05:16] <nbcb> hi what kind of apps in kubuntu can i use to monitor my network traffics like what kind of packages send and which port and ip it send to?
[05:17] <nbcb> eg like i'm using bittorrent serving as seeds and leeching , how can i monitor the traffic flow?
[05:17] <geggam> snmp
[05:17] <pollyo> Anyone familiar with the linux driver development kit?  If so do you know if anyone is making use of it to make drivers for lexmark printers?
[05:18] <BluesKaj> polly , most lexmarks have linux drivers support
[05:18] <nbcb> ok i installed it how do i use it
[05:19] <BluesKaj> howdy Yorokobi :)
[05:19] <pollyo> BluesKaj: I was unable to find the proper driver for the Lexmark X6170
[05:19] <Yorokobi> Good morning, BluesKaj
[05:19] <Pollywog> does anyone know how I can remove icons added by the network wizard (knetattach)?
[05:19] <Pollywog> I can't just delete them
[05:19] <Pollywog> tried that
[05:19] <BluesKaj> bummer pollyo, no generics available
[05:19] <pollyo> BluesKaj: Every webpage I have found searching claims support for lexmark is bad.
[05:20] <pollyo> BluesKaj: Not that I know about.
[05:20] <geggam> i would use apache and mrtg to track nbcb .... but that solution isnt one i am willing to teach someone to do for free
[05:20] <geggam> it is quiteinvolved
[05:20] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi, what's the  cli command again for choosing the default browser ?
[05:20] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, 1s
[05:21] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser'
[05:22] <BluesKaj> thx Yorokobi, gonna store that in my commands text file for future refernce ...I lost my txtfiles after trying to upgrade to Feisty which turned out to be a fiasco.
[05:24] <Yorokobi> It'll be interesting to see if the post-release upgrade (en masse) from egdy to feisty will be as error-prone as the upgrade from dapper to edgy was.
[05:24] <sivajii> how to create swap partition
[05:24] <BluesKaj> dapper to edgy was really quite uneventful in my experience ...was very smooth
[05:24] <Pollywog> will Feisty have LTS?
[05:25] <ackbahr> sonoftheclayr: I finally got it working (remember, the wma2mp3 story 50 minutes ago?), thank you very much!
[05:25] <ackbahr> Well, see you all soon, goodbye!
[05:25] <sivajii> ple someone tell me how to create swap partiotion
[05:26] <geggam> dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=1024 count=500k
[05:26] <geggam> mkswap swapfile
[05:26] <geggam> swapon swapfile
[05:26] <Pollywog> is that the same as a swap partition?
[05:27] <sivajii> it may erase any data ?
[05:27] <geggam> echo "/path/to/swapfile   none  swap 0 0 " >> /etc/fstab
[05:27] <Pollywog> couldn't one use gparted to create a swap partition in unused space?
[05:27] <geggam> as long as u have space sivajii  it wont write over anything
[05:27] <Pollywog> oic
[05:27] <geggam> i would put the file swapfile in /tmp
[05:28] <Cosmo_> I'm trying to install the VPN for my work but this is what it says when I try to install the software http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15047/
[05:28] <sivajii> ok
[05:28] <ubuntu_> i've tried to install kubuntu to my sony vaio pcg z600 tek
[05:29] <ubuntu_> but it can load the installation file
[05:29] <sivajii> "dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=1024 count=500k" what will be the size of swap partition
[05:29] <geggam> Cosmo_, type "file /usr/sbin/net6vpnd" on the command line with no quotesw
[05:29] <geggam> 500mb
[05:29] <sdlnxgk> anyone have issues installing  icecast2 with adept packet manager and it installs no files???
[05:30] <geggam> adjust 500k to suit
[05:30] <geggam> each 100k is a 100m
[05:30] <Shura`> hello ! is anyone using Konversation ? I have 2 questions : How do I auto-auth (on Quakenet) on connect, and can i automatically rejoin a channel after having being kicked ? ty
[05:30] <Cosmo_> geggam: it says /usr/sbin/net6vpnd: writable, regular file, no read permission
[05:31] <geggam> what else ?
[05:31] <geggam> ELF executable ??
[05:32] <sivajii> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~/Desktop$ mkswap swapfile
[05:32] <sivajii> Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 524283 kB
[05:33] <sivajii> no label, UUID=8e439137-8d5a-4eed-bf06-3f06ff3fa679
[05:34] <sivajii> geggam: u gave three command ,am i suppose to execute all command
[05:34] <geggam> yes
[05:34] <sivajii> no label, UUID=8e439137-8d5a-4eed-bf06-3f06ff3fa679
[05:34] <geggam> u dont need a label
[05:34] <Shura`> hello ! is someone using Konversation ? I have 2 questions : How do I auto-auth (on Quakenet) on connect, and can i automatically rejoin a channel after having being kicked ? ty
[05:34] <sivajii> how to give that
[05:34] <geggam> uuid is a robust mount system... sort of pointless in this application
[05:35] <geggam> swapon swapfile
[05:36] <sivajii> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo swapon swapfile
[05:36] <sivajii> swapon: swapfile: Device or resource busy
[05:36] <geggam> swapon -s
[05:36] <geggam> paste the output
[05:37] <sivajii> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~/Desktop$ swapon -s
[05:37] <sivajii> Filename                                Type            Size    Used    Priority
[05:37] <sivajii> /home/sivaji/Desktop/swapfile           file            511992  1524    -1
[05:37] <geggam> u have swap
[05:37] <geggam> issue this command to have it automatically
[05:38] <sivajii> ya now i have thank u
[05:38] <geggam> echo "/home/sivaji/Desktop/swapfile     none swap 0 0 " >> /etc/fstab
[05:39] <sivajii> i got swap partition so what is the use of this command that u gave just now
[05:39] <sivajii> echo "/home/sivaji/Desktop/swapfile     none swap 0 0 " >> /etc/fstab
[05:39] <geggam> to add it to fstab so u have swap every boot
[05:40] <sivajii> bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied
[05:41] <jordo23> Anyone here run TightVNC?
[05:41] <sivajii> geggam:bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied
[05:42] <geggam> sudo echo "/home/sivaji/Desktop/swapfile     none swap 0 0 " >> /etc/fstab
[05:44] <blekos> i've come accross with a very weird problem, i have openoffice 2.2 when i open it,  there are no icons next to the text (eg. for alignment, spellcheck etc), more over it doesnt take the system colors,
[05:44] <blekos> any ideas?
[05:45] <jhutchins_lt2> Ah.  Of COURSE the live cd can't play mp3's.
[05:46] <dromer> !basket
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about basket - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <jordo23> !vnc
[05:46] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[05:47] <jordo23> !FreeNX
[05:47] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:47] <Pollywog> oh thanks I needed that too
[05:48] <Pollywog> though I want to install it on an Etch system to connect to it from xtightvncviewer on Edgy
[05:48] <cyberius> hi! i'm using kubuntu 7.04! When i make a scan with "kismet" he stops scanning after some minutes. He uses the monitor mode of my wlan card. Somebody told me that kubuntu maybe sets the wlan card after some time into a "power save" mode, when no packets are send (this is the case in the monitor mode)? if yes, how can i disable the power save mode? please help me thank you!
[05:49] <jordo23> anyone know where tightvnc's config files are?  (can't see in /etc)
[05:50] <jpcunha> can anyone give me a good guide how to update my nvidia graphic card drivers?
[05:51] <Pollywog> jpcunha: I just used 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' and that got everything
[05:51] <Pollywog> jordo23: ~/.vnc
[05:52] <jpcunha> oh ok
[05:52] <jpcunha> thx alot ;)
[05:52] <jordo23> Pollywog: Do you use tightvnc?
[05:52] <Shura`> !konversation
[05:52] <Pollywog> I am using vnc4server and tightvnc viewer
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <d0uglas> hi.. in the console, what do i have to do to get it in high-res? something to do with a framebuffer kinda thing?
[05:55] <Yorokobi> d0uglas, one way that may work is to specify a resolution at boot (eg, resolution=1024x768). Whether it works is a bit hit-or-miss in my experience.
[05:56] <d0uglas> hrmm.. i've done this a while back in debian, but it was a radeonfb something
[05:56] <d0uglas> nothing like what you said though
[05:56] <jordo23> Does anyone run TIGHTVNC on Kbuntu?
[05:56] <Yorokobi> <-- zero ATI experience
[05:57] <Pollywog> jordo:  I believe tightvnc also keeps the configs in ~/.vnc if I remember correctly
[05:57] <cyber-hazard> Is anyone else using the beta out there? I'm having some issues with apt/adept/synaptic
[05:59] <jordo23> Pollywog: Yeah....I found them.....but still cant get it working....
[05:59] <ReTyPe> how do i play midi files ?
[05:59] <jordo23> Pollywog: I installed it through APt-get and cannot connect (ports 5800 thru 5900 are forwarded too)
[06:00] <Pollywog> you started the server on the remote and you see it with 'ps ax'?
[06:00] <Pollywog> did you set a password on the remote?
[06:00] <Pollywog> with vncpasswd command?
[06:01] <jordo23> Pollywog: Not yet....let me try that
[06:01] <Pollywog> I think that is how it's done in tighvnc
[06:02] <jordo23> Pollywog: Do you know how I can tell if No-IP is working too?
[06:02] <Pollywog> what is no-ip?
[06:02] <jordo23> Pollywog: I dont think that is the problem as I have resolution to my web server
[06:02] <frojnd> what does that mean if u write arp -a in a konsole and there is no output... that u don't have router??
[06:02] <Pollywog> you have a dynamic dns service?
[06:03] <Pollywog> can you telnet to the remote host on the vnc port?
[06:03] <Yorokobi> frojnd, it may mean that you have not connected to anything that would need an arp table entry
[06:04] <jordo23> Pollywog:  I am actually not at a remote site....I am on the same LAN
[06:04] <geggam> netstat -rn shows a route
[06:04] <geggam> :|
[06:04] <geggam> i hate phones
[06:04] <Pollywog> if you are usk
[06:04] <Pollywog> k
[06:04] <Pollywog> good
[06:05] <Pollywog> brb
[06:06] <Pollywog> jordo23: the other thing you can do is use gdm instead of kdm and compile it to use secure connection
[06:07] <Pollywog> then you can even connect via Internet so long as the remote is running ssh
[06:08] <jhutchins_lt2> Pollywog: You can do that with kdm too, can't you?
[06:08] <Pollywog> jhutchins_lt2: I don't know if you can do it with kdm I wanted to ask
[06:13] <jack_> hi, if i buy a EPSON DX5050 Colour Printer, Scanner & Copier which is not on the hardware compatibility database, would i face a lot of problems? anyone experience with that printer?
[06:14] <jhutchins_lt2> jack_: You can probably print, you might not scan, and you probably won't fax.
[06:15] <jhutchins_lt2> Epson has reasonably good support, but all-in-ones are not as well supported as dedicated devices.
[06:16] <jack_> jhutchins_lt2: it doesnt fax, but it should be solved with the next release?
[06:16] <jack_> jhutchins_lt2: i mean i heard it offers good driver support
[06:17] <Cosmo_> I'm trying to install the VPN for my work but this is what it says when I try to install the software http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15047/
[06:17] <jhutchins_lt2> jack_: lack of fax support for all-in-ones has been pretty constant, so I wouldn't expect it to change soon.
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, that's different
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> feisty treats all ata hard drives as scsi now?
[06:23] <palp> hi
[06:24] <Schuenemann> Is it possible to convert a .psd to .html using Krita?
[06:25] <Daisuke_Ido> convert a photoshop image file...  to html?
[06:25] <chijin> you know, break an image to css elements within html :D
[06:25] <Schuenemann> there is an adobe software that does that
[06:26] <Schuenemann> illustrator or photoshop, I'm not sure
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> that converts a photoshop image file to html.
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> pdf MAYBE.
[06:26] <Schuenemann> nope
[06:26] <Schuenemann> html + css
[06:26] <l0calh0rst> mahlzeit
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> i meant converting a pdf to html, but okay
[06:27] <Schuenemann> people make sites in photoshop and then convert to actual home pages
[06:27] <Schuenemann> making lots of crappy tables
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, that's called image slicing, and it's used to create images used IN html.
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> now it makes sense :)
[06:28] <Yorokobi> Illustrator is what converts them from images to html+css
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> Yorokobi's got it :)
[06:28] <Schuenemann> sigh
[06:28] <Schuenemann> so, it's not image slicing
[06:28] <Schuenemann> and it makes a whole home page
[06:29] <Schuenemann> I mean no*
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> then you're probably looking for illustrator
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> though i'm kinda lost, so...
[06:30] <jhutchins_lt2> Daisuke_Ido: Look for pdf2html
[06:30] <Schuenemann> so, krita can't do it?
[06:30] <geggam> html is code... psd is an image
[06:30] <Schuenemann> ... and?
[06:30] <jhutchins_lt2> http://www.verypdf.com/pdf2htm/index.html
[06:31] <geggam> convert jpg to C for me
[06:31] <Schuenemann> doh
[06:31] <jhutchins_lt2> !find pdf2html
[06:31] <ubotu> Package/file pdf2html does not exist in edgy
[06:31] <Schuenemann> jhutchins_lt2, actually, it's me asking the question :p
[06:31] <jhutchins_lt2> Schuenemann: You need that URL again?  I just googled for it.
[06:31] <geggam> what u can do is convert file.psd file.jpg and see if that works
[06:32] <jhutchins_lt2> Dudes, pdf2html - right there!
[06:32] <geggam> then chop  the jpg with some other enduser webpublishing crap
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> jhutchins_lt2: yeah, i wasn't looking for it, just trying to help out, and failing :\
[06:32] <Schuenemann> jhutchins_lt2, no, it's psd to html
[06:32] <Schuenemann> not pdf
[06:32] <jack_> jhutchins_lt2: thqanks
[06:32] <geggam> all pdftohtml does is convert the jpg to png which is fatter and put it on html
[06:32] <Yorokobi> Schuenemann, I've not run into anything that'll splice an image up similar to the way Illustrator does it (except illustrator). There *are* several image mapping tools available, though.
[06:33] <Schuenemann> geggam, dude, it's psd to html, and that is possible
[06:33] <Schuenemann> geggam, save your irony to yourself
[06:33] <jhutchins_lt2> psd2html appears to be a commercial service.
[06:33] <Schuenemann> looks so
[06:33] <Daisuke_Ido> jhutchins_lt2: what he's describing sounds *exactly* like image slicing...
[06:34] <jhutchins_lt2> that's what psd2html.com calls it.
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> that's what i thought.
[06:34] <cyberius> hi! i'm using kubuntu 7.04! When i make a scan with "kismet" he stops scanning after some minutes. He uses the monitor mode of my wlan card. Somebody told me that kubuntu maybe sets the wlan card after some time into a "power save" mode, when no packets are send (this is the case in the monitor mode)? if yes, how can i disable the power save mode? please help me thank you!
[06:34] <geggam> Schuenemann, http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/imageformats.html
[06:34] <jhutchins_lt2> psd's might have more layout information than a simple image though,  Dunno.
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> and photoshop can do that, but apparently image slicing isn't what he wants.
[06:34] <Schuenemann> isn't image slicing getting an ordinary image and slicing into many images? that's not what I want
[06:34] <jhutchins_lt2> cyberius: That's probably something you're more likely to find in the forums.
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> that's what you're talking about.
[06:35] <Schuenemann> nope
[06:35] <Daisuke_Ido> just taking the extra step of placing those images into html
[06:35] <cyberius> you mean the kubuntu forum?
[06:35] <Schuenemann> the person did the WHOLE web site as a .psd, and illustrator CAN make that html+css+images
[06:35] <jhutchins_lt2> cyberius: That, or kismet forums.
[06:35] <Schuenemann> with tables, forms, etc, etc, etc
[06:36] <Yorokobi> Schuenemann, so use Illustrator. Problem solved.
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> a form...  in a psd...  now you're smoking crack.
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[06:36] <geggam> Schuenemann, ..convert the file to jpg ...import that into openoffice and save it as html... u will end up with the same junk style website
[06:36] <geggam> which is why the net is bloated with shit now
[06:36] <geggam> /rant
[06:37] <Schuenemann> I know it's junky, I won't use it... I'll make it tableless and w3c
[06:37] <michel> bon jour!
[06:37] <Daisuke_Ido> tables in and of themselves aren't evil
[06:37] <Schuenemann> Daisuke_Ido, look for designs in emule... you'll find many in .psd format
[06:39] <ypsila> moin
[06:39] <snook353> monodevelopment says its for GNOME - why?
[06:39] <Schuenemann> Yorokobi, I don't have illustrator... I didn't know krita could open .psd, so I thought it could maybe convert it... but it's ok
[06:39] <snook353> *develop
[06:41] <BluesKaj> is there a site that lists common CLI commands ...can't seem to find one ...just a bunch dumb ego booster blogs written by some geeks who are patting themselves on the back for getting listed on google :)
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> tables are useful ways of presenting information, just don't make your entire site reliant on them
[06:41] <jhutchins_lt2> BluesKaj: Yes, hang on a sec.
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> \o/
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: ^^
[06:42] <jhutchins_lt2> BluesKaj:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[06:42] <jhutchins_lt2> BluesKaj:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:43] <TheSpunkyLobster> hey hoping someone can help me with gpart
[06:43] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: go on
[06:43] <snook353> gpart?  qtparted?
[06:43] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt2, ... thanks much :)
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> probably gparted
[06:44] <TheSpunkyLobster> i've just completed a full scan with -f option as i'm trying to rebuild my partition table, and a normal scan brought up an older linux partiition on my dual boot, did the full scan and it found the extra parition bits, but didn't give me the info for them, instead said it had discarded them as they overlapped
[06:44] <TheSpunkyLobster> not sure what to do about that :)
[06:44] <TheSpunkyLobster> i'm running on live cd right now, but could always try qtparted if that is better
[06:44] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: we are talking about what size?
[06:45] <TheSpunkyLobster> the hd is 120gig
[06:45] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: the dualboot includes a wintendo?
[06:45] <TheSpunkyLobster> it did yes, but can't boot into that eitehr, as on boot it tells me no os found
[06:46] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: not funny, which live-cd do you use?
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> sounds like the mbr on the windows partition may have been hosed
[06:46] <TheSpunkyLobster> using kubuntu live right now
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> by the way, loving the new command-not-found package in feisty :)
[06:46] <knubbe-> im about to upgrade my server to feisty from dapper. is the best way to upgrade straight to feisty or should i go via edgy?
[06:46] <TheSpunkyLobster> earlier today i managed to find and mount the linux partition, but it was one from my previous install not the current one
[06:47] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: hmm, not funny at all
[06:47] <Schuenemann> when will feisty be released?
[06:47] <ypsila> Schuenemann: 19th
[06:47] <TheSpunkyLobster> ypsila: nope complete nightmare heh
[06:47] <Schuenemann> thanks
[06:47] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: got any knoppix around?
[06:48] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: try to get your data, save to another disc, and do it nice and clean from 0
[06:48] <darin> can anyone give a quick explanation of the kde wallet?
[06:48] <jhutchins_lt2> TheSpunkyLobster: What killed the partition in the first place?
[06:48] <ypsila> !kwallet
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> knubbe-: is everything on your server working fine?
[06:48] <darin> !kwallet
[06:49] <darin> ok, ty
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> if so, don't upgrade yet, as dapper is still the LTS release
[06:49] <ypsila> darin: for your pw's such in Kmail
[06:49] <jhutchins_lt2> darin: kwallet is a silly copy of  a windows toy to store all of your passwords in one place so you don't have to enter them.  Often you will have to enter your kwallet password each time a password is queried from kwallet.
[06:49] <TheSpunkyLobster> i do have  knoppix live cd here as well yes
[06:49] <darin> I see
[06:49] <darin> so not really necessary
[06:49] <TheSpunkyLobster> currently i can't access anything on the drive at all, the kubuntu live cd says it's all unused space
[06:50] <Daisuke_Ido> which is RETARDED, it would be quicker to just, you know, enter the password in the first place.
[06:50] <darin> lol
[06:50] <TheSpunkyLobster> as to what caused it i have no clue, turned on the machine and it was screwed
[06:50] <darin> no kidding
[06:50] <jhutchins_lt2> darin: Not even desirable in my opinion.
[06:50] <darin> yea ok
[06:50] <Daisuke_Ido> first thing i do is tell it to go away
[06:50] <jhutchins_lt2> kwallet can be useful if you want a lot of really secure, unmemorizable different passworsd for things.
[06:51] <jhutchins_lt2> You can machine generate the passwords then have one memorable one for kwallet.  It's _supposed_ to only ask the wallet password once, but that doesn't always work.
[06:51] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: hmmm, ide or sata?
[06:51] <TheSpunkyLobster> ide
[06:51] <jhutchins_lt2> TheSpunkyLobster: Chances are that this will happen again then.
[06:52] <TheSpunkyLobster> i'm not worried about the windows partition, but there's stuff on the linux i need, gpart i think found the parition, but then discarded the info as it overlapped the one i found on the first scan
[06:52] <TheSpunkyLobster> jhutchins_lt2: yup i fear that too... guessing the laptop is screwed one way or another
[06:52] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: I would try again with an older knoppix, kind of 5
[06:52] <knubbe-> Daisuke_Ido: everything thats installed is working, but there are things in dapper thats not supported that i need (pdo-support)
[06:53] <TheSpunkyLobster> run gpart again under knopix you mean?
[06:53] <jhutchins_lt2> THere seem to be a bunch of laptop drives that are reaching the end of their lifecycle.  I'm running on one now (or on the live CD actually because the HD's dead).
[06:53] <TheSpunkyLobster> i have 5.1.1 here i can use if that would be usefull
[06:53] <TheSpunkyLobster> jhutchins_lt2: this is actually a new hardrive, i think it's more likely the drive bay itself that's dieing
[06:54] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: in such cases, we had the best results with knoppix, I wouldn't have asket for this one :-)
[06:54] <TheSpunkyLobster> ypsila: ok, will try again under knoppix... is there any command i can give it to not discard overlapping paritions?
[06:54] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: that would have been my next step, to look whether the hd works with an other machine
[06:55] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: hmm, I don't know, I never had that kind of message,
[06:55] <TheSpunkyLobster> ypsila: unfortunatly as it's in my laptop, i can't do that
[06:55] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: even a laptop can be opened :-)
[06:55] <TheSpunkyLobster> you mentioned qtparted earlier, would it be better to try that/
[06:55] <atidem> hi!
[06:55] <TheSpunkyLobster> oh i can get the drive out no problem, but can't connect it up anywhere else :)
[06:57] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: try it first with knoppix first
[06:57] <ypsila> -first
[06:58] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok
[06:58] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: btw, what kubuntu live? 6.06 or 6.10
[06:58] <TheSpunkyLobster> 6.10
[06:58] <ypsila> hmm
[06:59] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: and that is the version that was installed?
[06:59] <TheSpunkyLobster> yup
[06:59] <ypsila> ok
[06:59] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: good luck, anyway
[07:00] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok weirdness of the day :)
[07:00] <TheSpunkyLobster> knoppix has detected the linux drive and i can access it
[07:00] <TheSpunkyLobster> no wait, this is the old drive again lol
[07:00] <TheSpunkyLobster> old parition rather
[07:00] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: hmm, so I wonder what went wrong
[07:01] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: what did you have on the last running system?
[07:01] <TheSpunkyLobster> windows xp and kubuntu 6.10
[07:02] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: but where does this 2nd linux partition come from?
[07:02] <FJ_Sanchez> Hi
[07:02] <FJ_Sanchez> I cannot get Kubuntu Edgy working with AIGLX. I've a intel video card
[07:02] <TheSpunkyLobster> ypsila: it's from a previous install
[07:02] <ypsila> !intel
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok scan running on knoppix and we'll see what i brings back for me :)
[07:03] <FJ_Sanchez> nothing with ubotu...
[07:03] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: what was that "previous"
[07:03] <FJ_Sanchez> !aiglx
[07:03] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[07:03] <TheSpunkyLobster> xp and kubuntu 6.10 as this one was
[07:03] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: but what is then the "older" linux?
[07:04] <TheSpunkyLobster> i did a full reinstall about 6 weeks ago
[07:04] <TheSpunkyLobster> it's picking up the kubuntu from prior to that reinstall
[07:05] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: hmm, I would say that is not possible, instead you made an extra partition to keep that version "before reinstall"
[07:06] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: the reinstall should have overwritten any other linux
[07:06] <TheSpunkyLobster> this is what i thought too lol
[07:06] <TheSpunkyLobster> but there it is heh
[07:06] <TheSpunkyLobster> and the data i need is not :)
[07:06] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: sure?
[07:07] <TheSpunkyLobster> yup positive
[07:07] <TheSpunkyLobster> i'll see what this scan brings up and then try again :) need to go eat now anyway heh
[07:07] <TheSpunkyLobster> thanks for the help so far :)
[07:08] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: I#m sorry, that was no help at all
[07:13] <Kite_DH> can somebody help me with java?
[07:13] <ypsila> !java
[07:13] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:16] <schwonk> Hiya. Does the feisty install CD support creating and installing to a resier4 partition?
[07:17] <schwonk> *reiser
[07:17] <BluesKaj> not that i'm aware , schwonk
[07:17] <ypsila> !feisty
[07:17] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[07:18] <schwonk> BluesKaj: So my only choice is ext3 then, more or less?
[07:18] <ypsila> Kite_DH: warum machst das nicht auf deutsch?
[07:18] <Kite_DH> ypsila: was machen?
[07:19] <FJ_Sanchez> Hi
[07:19] <FJ_Sanchez> Anybody using AIGLX and intel graphics card?
[07:19] <FJ_Sanchez> I cannot get it working..
[07:19] <ypsila> Kite_DH: asking your question ;-) wait until moni is there, she's a bit specialized to java, as it is more than installing the right version
[07:20] <Kite_DH> ypsila: im always here, just to learn something =)
[07:20] <berkes> is there an ETA on feisty stable around?
[07:20] <blippe> how do i make kde show my japanese character and not transform %2f to / ?
[07:20] <ypsila> Kite_DH: as you can see on the amount of helpful answers...........
[07:20] <blippe> berkes: 19th
[07:21] <liam> hi guys can you help me with amarok
[07:21] <Kite_DH> ypsila: xD im just hanging around, soo...
[07:21] <berkes> blippe: thx
[07:21] <marcin> hi!
[07:21] <blippe> liam: ask away
[07:21] <marcin> what do you think about poland?
[07:21] <ypsila> Kite_DH: I'm only here to train my written english :-D
[07:21] <liam> i cant get amarok to update
[07:21] <Kite_DH> ypsila: lovely =) didnt you learn it in school?
[07:21] <pagan0ne> marcin: i think its cold
[07:21] <ypsila> Kite_DH: eehhm, I'm a translator
[07:21] <marcin> its cold in Poland?
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> liam: might want to try #amarok if they're awake
[07:22] <blippe> liam what program are you using to update and are you on feisty or edgy?
[07:22] <Kite_DH> ypsila: oh, didnt know that =)
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> that too
[07:22] <pagan0ne> marcin: compaired to where im from :^)
[07:22] <Kite_DH> ypsila: and what do you translate?
[07:22] <marcin> XXD
[07:22] <ypsila> Kite_DH: but computer language is quite different and chat too
[07:22] <liam> im edgy i think, and i downloaded amarok from its webstie
[07:22] <marcin> urpl?
[07:22] <Kite_DH> ypsila: thats true
[07:22] <liam> when i went to install it said no c to compile
[07:23] <Kite_DH> ypsila: we shouldnt talk offtopic here
[07:23] <ypsila> Kite_DH: I used to translate manuals in the early times of computing, but the last 15 years concentrated on frech-german
[07:23] <marcin> pagan0ne: rupl?
[07:23] <blippe> liam if you are not using the ones in the repos you are better off to ask to ones working on the sources you are using... #amarok
[07:23] <Kite_DH> ypsila: hehe
[07:23] <ypsila> liam: it's not in adept?
[07:23] <pagan0ne> marcin: rupl??
[07:23] <liam> error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[07:23] <marcin> are you polish?
[07:23] <liam> no my adept wont work either
[07:23] <blippe> liam: and i think you would be better of with the amarok in adept
[07:24] <pagan0ne> marcin: no, american
[07:24] <liam> ok ill tell you what adept says
[07:24] <marcin> so you are stupid XXD
[07:24] <blippe> liam: if you look at kubutnu.org they have repos for newer amaroks
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> however, there is a repository containing more recent builds of amarok, but i can't remember where it was
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah :D
[07:25] <pagan0ne> marcin: the same could be said of you
[07:25] <marcin> all americsn nation is stupid
[07:25] <ypsila> HEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[07:25] <liam> adept says the apt database could not be opened
[07:25] <marcin> *can
[07:25] <ypsila> stopp that immediately
[07:25] <pagan0ne> marcin: just our goverment
[07:25] <marcin> no
[07:25] <ypsila> liam: so some of your repos might be not ok
[07:25] <liam> how can i fix adept
[07:26] <liam> i tried to put in a new repo and thats when it hung up
[07:26] <marcin> i've seen a documentary film about stupid americans
[07:26] <liam> it was a repo for amarok
[07:26] <pagan0ne> marcin: and iveseen one about the polish
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> couldn't be opened or is locked?
[07:26] <marcin> "Is American nation so stupid as we think?" The ansewr was : yes
[07:26] <jkjk> Hmm after today's update (new kernel) X won't start anymore... (i suspect it has to to with my nvidia drivers...) any suggestions ?
[07:26] <ypsila> liam: fixing your sources list and apt-get (adept is only a frontend)
[07:27] <ypsila> marcin: would you please stop that
[07:27] <liam> where do i edit my sources list
[07:27] <ypsila> asshole
[07:27] <liam> sorry im a real newb
[07:27] <ypsila> liam: okay no problem, just need to know that
[07:27] <Daisuke_Ido> !ohmy | ypsila
[07:27] <ubotu> ypsila: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:27] <ypsila> asshole is english? isn't it?
[07:27] <liam> why are ppl calling yanks stupid
[07:27] <Daisuke_Ido> english, yes.  appropriate, no.
[07:28] <Daisuke_Ido> liam: because the worst get represented the most, sadly, but this is offtopic, so back on task.
[07:28] <blippe> liam: i think you are able to add repos in adept (that changes the sources.list)
[07:28] <liam> ok so i need to fix the sources.list
[07:29] <ypsila> liam: and you should check whether adept "hung up" what happens often enough
[07:29] <BluesKaj> when one adds repos are these commands necessary or can the repos addys just be added without the :" wget http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg | sudo apt-key add"
[07:29] <darin> anyone want to offer a samba tutorial?
[07:30] <liam> it didnt really hang up it just closed
[07:30] <darin> have media on an ide hd on my linux box, want to stream to a media center pc via ethernet
[07:30] <ypsila> liam: ok, can you access your process-list?
[07:31] <liam> i can try and find it
[07:31] <ypsila> liam: do you see any adept, or adept-notifier related processes?
[07:32] <liam> no not at the moment i closed then
[07:32] <liam> them*
[07:33] <stevethepirate> hello ppl
[07:33] <ypsila> liam: can you restart adpet now?
[07:33] <liam> yeah but it will stop straight away
[07:33] <darin> hi steve
[07:33] <jkjk> It's like the 3rd time a regular update caused X to fail after reboot... this is bad
[07:33] <stevethepirate> how can i like backup like a list of the things that i have apt-getted ?
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> jkjk: feisty?
[07:34] <ypsila> liam: hmm, edgy?
[07:34] <jkjk> Daisuke_Ido: No Edgy
[07:34] <darin> <----- noob here, just starting out
[07:34] <liam> yeah
[07:34] <jhutchins_lt> jkjk: Pertty common if you're running propietary drivers.
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> jkjk: kernel updates?
[07:34] <jkjk> Daisuke_Ido: yep
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> jhutchins_lt: bout what i was thinking
[07:34] <liam> ok i opened adept and it said this
[07:34] <blippe> BluesKaj: it aint necessary but good to do, otherwise you will get messages about the upgrades being unsigned
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> jkjk: that happens, you'll have to redo video drivers
[07:34] <jhutchins_lt> !samba | darin
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not pretty, but hey...
[07:34] <jkjk> Daisuke_Ido: Ok i'll try thanks :)
[07:34] <ubotu> darin: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:34] <ypsila> liam: I don't know the reason, but on some machines that happens daily on others never, and on others only from time to time, are you familiar with installing manually?
[07:35] <liam> "the APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration.
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i've had to recompile the kernel module a few times in the past couple weeks
[07:35] <liam> only a lil
[07:35] <darin> much thanks, will get reading
[07:36] <ypsila> liam: what did you do to get that error message?
[07:36] <jhutchins_lt> !fixadept | liam
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <stevethepirate> how can i like backup like a list of the things that i have apt-getted ?
[07:36] <jhutchins_lt> !adeptfix | liam
[07:36] <ubotu> liam: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:36] <blippe> liam sometimes a krasching update leave traces left, leaving the system beleiving the update is still running, that might have happened
[07:36] <blippe> jhutchins_lt: nice
[07:37] <stevethepirate> how can i like backup like a list of the things that i have apt-getted ?
[07:39] <TheSpunkyLobster> my continuing saga with my hardrive continues heh... just done another gpart scan and again picked up the same parition, and still can't find the other one
[07:39] <Daisuke_Ido> stevethepirate: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/* > ~/package_list
[07:39] <liam> sorry blippe that didnt work
[07:39] <emonkey-p> why it's possible to order max 10 ubuntu Feisty CDs through ShipIt and only max 3 Kubuntu CDs?
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> that's *just* a list though
[07:40] <stevethepirate> Daisuke_Ido: ta
[07:40] <pollyo> Anyone here use beryl!?
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> emonkey-p: because kubuntu is a smaller project
[07:40] <pollyo> I finally got it to run after installing the proper video drivers.
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> pollyo: yep :)
[07:40] <savetheWorld> emonkey-p: Kubuntu is worth a lot more, so you only get 3 free ones.
[07:40] <stevethepirate> can i then like, like iterate through that list and re-apt-get all the files?
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[07:41] <jhutchins_lt> !automate | stevethepirate
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm sure there's a way to
[07:41] <ubotu> stevethepirate: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[07:41] <emonkey-p> savetheWorld: lol
[07:41] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: How do you see it in action?  Does it do anything without changes to the setup?
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> wobbly windows and slight transparency
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> running beryl-manager?
[07:41] <liam> ok guys sorry but this is really bugging me
[07:42] <TheSpunkyLobster> anyone else have any ideas on how i can only find a parition table for an install that has been installed over the top of?
[07:42] <sdlnxgk> !icecast2
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <sdlnxgk> !icecast
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: Beryl Settings Manager?
[07:42] <savetheWorld> emonkey-p: I wasn't kidding............... :-) KDE > gnome
[07:42] <liam> how do i fix adept?
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> pollyo: no, beryl-manager
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a separate package
[07:42] <liam> i know its because of my repos
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> it will make life easier :)
[07:42] <liam> but how do i change them
[07:42] <jhutchins_lt> liam: Did you do the fix for the locked database?
[07:42] <ypsila> liam: there is a simple way to do it, but I'm not that familiar to it
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> liam: kdesu kate /etc/sources.list
[07:43] <jhutchins_lt> !easysource
[07:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> oops, that wasn't right
[07:43] <chemist109> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> try kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah
[07:43] <liam> ok ill try that kate edit
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> get in a hurry and bam, everything falls apart
[07:44] <TheSpunkyLobster> ypsila: is it worth trying this qtparted you mentioned to try and find the missing partition?
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> if you've installed over it, you're probably not going to find a whole lot
[07:44] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: Is that under windows managers: Beryl, Compiz, Metacity, KWin?
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[07:44] <liam> where is the sources.list file
[07:44] <TheSpunkyLobster> Daisuke_Ido: that's the problem kinda... i'm seeing the one i installed over, not the one i installed
[07:44] <TheSpunkyLobster> if that  makes sense
[07:45] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: hmm, I don't think that qtparted will find a missing partition
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> liam: just told you
[07:45] <savetheWorld> dice K ?
[07:45] <chemist109> liam: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:45] <jhutchins_lt> chemist109: Helio Castroneves was around earlier.
[07:45] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: I have it installed.
[07:45] <jhutchins_lt> On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> pollyo: it's an app that runs in the tray that gives you access to beryl's functionality
[07:46] <TheSpunkyLobster> i'd do another full scan under knoppix, but i imagine i'll just be told the same, that it will discard the overlapping partition, which by the looks of it, is the one i actually want
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> pollyo: run beryl-manager in a terminal, see what kind of output you get
[07:46] <liam> i taken out the bad repo but it wont let me save the changed file
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> and are you running aiglx or xgl?
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> liam: you need to be superuser
[07:46] <jhutchins_lt> TheSpunkyLobster: At what point do you decide "he's dead, Jim" and just start to work on reconstruction?
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> liam: this command: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <liam> i am the superuser lol
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, now this is getting weird.
[07:47] <TheSpunkyLobster> jhutchins_lt: umm when i've got this data back as i know it must be there :) there's some pretty important stuff on there ol
[07:47] <liam> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list failed to open device
[07:47] <stevethepirate> is it just me or is the ntfs-3g driver rather tweaky?
[07:48] <Daisuke_Ido> liam: error 168?
[07:48] <jnewing> hello all :)
[07:49] <liam> ah it might have worked now
[07:50] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: Do you mean the little gem at the bottom of the screen?
[07:50] <liam> ah haaaaa thankyou so verymuch adept is alive and well
[07:50] <jnewing> how could i find out the modeline for my monitor so i can get my 1680x1050 res working?
[07:50] <liam> now how do i get it to install the latest amarok
[07:50] <jhutchins_lt> TheSpunkyLobster: Pay-someone-with-better-equipment important?
[07:50] <TheSpunkyLobster> not quite that important no :)
[07:51] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: Not sure if beryl is working.  I can set it for Compiz but it appears that everytime I set it to Beryl it drops back down to the gnome setting.
[07:51] <TheSpunkyLobster> but also it's good knowledge building as a relative linux newbie to get used to other parts of the os :)
[07:51] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: The Metacity manager
[07:52] <aurel17> does anybody know how to make MOUNTISO work in kubuntu?
[07:52] <ypsila> TheSpunkyLobster: you will find out, it is much easier you thought it to be, it takes a little time, but then..............
[07:53] <TheSpunkyLobster> this is what i'm thinking :) and also why i'd rather not give up on this... if i can make it work right now and get this back i'll know how to in the future if it ever happens again
[07:54] <liam> hi guys amarok wont update in adept
[07:54] <ypsila> liam: #amarok
[07:54] <microphone_not_w> hi
[07:54] <jhutchins_lt> TheSpunkyLobster: There's also the chance that you'll destroy it.
[07:54] <liam> yeah amarok
[07:55] <microphone_not_w> my mic not working in kubuntu
[07:55] <TheSpunkyLobster> jhutchins_lt: that's true enough, but right now it's dead anyway :)
[07:55] <microphone_not_w> hellpppppp
[07:55] <liam> i know theres a 1.4.5 and mine is only a 1.4.5
[07:55] <Arwen> um, what bitrate should I use to make sure there's no audible artifacts in Vorbis audio?
[07:55] <ypsila> microphone_not_w: because problem?
[07:55] <microphone_not_w> i have used alasmixer and kmix nothing helps
[07:55] <microphone_not_w> in windows it works
[07:55] <greeg> hi gang
[07:56] <ypsila> microphone_not_w: you do not expect an answer concerning wintendo, right?
[07:56] <jhutchins_lt> Arwen: There's some good stuff in the usenet newsgroup faq's.
[07:56] <jhutchins_lt> microphone_not_w: Capture enabled?
[07:56] <Arwen> jhutchins_lt, don't you need a special client to read newsgroups?
[07:56] <microphone_not_w> In Kubuntu mic not working
[07:56] <greeg> does anyone have a solution for uninstalling grub? google suggests running fix /mbr froma windows cd .  which i dont have
[07:56] <ubuntu_> test
[07:56] <jhutchins_lt> Arwen: Google.
[07:56] <greeg> the drive boots when it's in slave position.  unwanted results/action
[07:56] <microphone_not_w> its causing public emabaaressemnt to me
[07:56] <Arwen> jhutchins_lt, err... how?
[07:57] <jhutchins_lt> greeg: fdisk /mbr
[07:57] <stevethepirate> i can't write to my windows partition.. any ideas why?
[07:57] <microphone_not_w> as i cannot voice chat with relatives who make fun of kubuntu
[07:57] <greeg> thanx pal
[07:57] <jhutchins_lt> greeg: Get a DOS boot floppy or CD.
[07:57] <greeg> jhutchins_lt:  aw cant this be done from linux?
[07:57] <jhutchins_lt> Arwen: Groups.google.com
[07:57] <Arwen> ah
[07:58] <jhutchins_lt> greeg: Yes, with a lot of knowledge of harddisk formats.
[07:58] <Arwen> jhutchins_lt, um, I'm completely new to usenet, where would I start looking?
[07:58] <stevethepirate> Someone: ntfs-3g is not working .. can some1 help me?
[07:58] <greeg> thanx pal
[07:58] <jhutchins_lt> Arwen: music, music-makers.
[07:58] <liam> why wont amarok or kubuntu recognise my mp3 player
[07:58] <liam> pleeeeeassee
[07:58] <ypsila> jhutchins_lt: I would have said: bios?
[07:58] <jhutchins_lt> Arwen: Also there's knode or pan for reading newsgroups from your isp's server.
[07:58] <gansinho_> liam: does it mount?
[07:59] <liam> how do i do that?
[07:59] <Yorokobi> liam, is your mp3 player an iPod nano?
[07:59] <liam> sorry complete noob
[07:59] <jhutchins_lt> liam: You forgot to enable the camera and it can't see the player?
[07:59] <liam> no its a Creative Zen v series
[07:59] <gansinho_> please anyonoe knows if there is a way to redimension the icons from the system tray?
[07:59] <aurel17> MOUNTISO??
[07:59] <liam> camera?
[08:00] <liam> theres no problem with a camera
[08:00] <gansinho_> liam:  go to /media and see if the player is not mounted there
[08:00] <microphone_not_w> my mic not working in kubuntu
[08:00] <liam> no i see my hdd, fdd and 2 cd drives
[08:01] <microphone_not_w> as i cannot voice chat with relatives who make fun of kubuntu
[08:01] <liam> no mp3 player
[08:01] <microphone_not_w> its causing public emabaaressemnt to me
[08:01] <liam> or mass storage
[08:01] <wilman> which driver do i need for dvd reading
[08:01] <gansinho_> liam: ok, the player is not being mounted
[08:01] <liam> how do i mount it?
[08:01] <jhutchins_lt> liam: Is it showing up in lsusb?
[08:01] <gansinho_> liam: now we know the problem, that`s already good =) let me see
[08:01] <liam> i dont know what that is sorry
[08:02] <ypsila> hmmmmmmm
[08:02] <gansinho_> liam: which version of kubuntu are u using?
[08:02] <liam> edgy
[08:02] <liam> i think
[08:02] <jhutchins_lt> liam:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:03] <jhutchins_lt> gansinho_: All yours.
[08:03] <gansinho_> liam: you're sure the player is working?
[08:03] <gansinho_> jhutchins_lt: no problem =)
[08:03] <aurel17> is it possible to mount a nrg image without converting it to iso?
[08:03] <liam> 100% works in win and its bran spankin!#
[08:03] <microphone_not_w> kubuntu sucks
[08:03] <gansinho_> microphone_not_w: you yoo
[08:03] <gansinho_> too
[08:03] <microphone_not_w>  cannot voice chat with relatives who make fun of kubuntu
[08:04] <liam> so anyway how do i get this to mount
[08:04] <gansinho_> liam: ok, you're completely  new to linux right?
[08:04] <liam> 100% lol
[08:04] <liam> sorry
[08:04] <microphone_not_w> its documented bug
[08:04] <gansinho_> ok
[08:05] <gansinho_> just a sex
[08:05] <gansinho_> sec
[08:05] <savetheWorld> freudian
[08:05] <microphone_not_w> dont know how time it will take fic mic bug
[08:05] <microphone_not_w> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/80531
[08:06] <jordo23> Is there a way to get a listing of all devices connected through uSB and their addresses?
[08:06] <microphone_not_w> its causing public emabaaressemnt to me
[08:07] <microphone_not_w> my mic not working in kubuntu
[08:07] <jhutchins_lt> microphone_not_w: Make sure you vote for it, more votes means higher priority.
[08:07] <jhutchins_lt> microphone_not_w: You might get around it with an alternate kernel, or you could build one yourself.
[08:07] <gansinho_> liam:  did you tried to connect anything else to the pc yet? a usb cam for ex
[08:07] <jhutchins_lt> microphone_not_w: You can also try other distros, like gentoo or mandriva/fedora/suse.
[08:07] <hyper_ch> mepis
[08:08] <hyper_ch> fedora core
[08:08] <gansinho_> microphone_not_w: google > distrowatch
[08:08] <gansinho_> =)
[08:08] <liam> errrm yeah and a printer
[08:08] <gansinho_> liam: the cam worked?
[08:08] <liam> but couldnt get either of them to work
[08:08] <hyper_ch> or maybe an upgraded version of ubuntu... edgy of feisty
[08:08] <TheSpunkyLobster> is there any way to make gpart not discard overlapping partitions on it's full scan?
[08:08] <liam> they were recognised i think
[08:08] <gansinho_> were?
[08:08] <liam> come to think of it no i dont think it did
[08:09] <liam> could it be the usb drivers
[08:09] <gansinho_> could you try again please? I need to know if your linux is recognizing usb devices
[08:09] <jhutchins_lt> liam: in a console, tail -f /var/log/messages.  Plug the drive in, you should see that it's set up as something like /dev/sda.  Mount it with mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/media
[08:09] <liam> ok ill try that
[08:09] <gansinho_> jhutchins_lt: I had a problem like this in my edgy, my hotplug got corrupted
[08:09] <jhutchins_lt> liam: You'll need sudo of course, sudo mount....
[08:10] <gansinho_> then I couldn`t even mount, because of the hotplug
[08:10] <liam> sorry explain
[08:10] <jhutchins_lt> gansinho_: I think it's actually a part of kde that auto-mounts hotplugged storage.
[08:10] <liam> i tried tail -f /var/log/messages and it just came up mark , mark,
[08:11] <jhutchins_lt> liam: Ok, while you're watching that, unplug the drive and plug it in again.
[08:11] <liam> ok
[08:11] <gansinho_> while seeing this plug the mp3
[08:11] <jhutchins_lt> liam: does it light up?
[08:12] <liam> ah yes it says new high speed device disconnected then reconnected at address 6
[08:12] <liam> new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6
[08:13] <jhutchins_lt> liam: Ok, it should say something like "sda" at the left of that.
[08:13] <liam> no the whole line is.....
[08:13] <jhutchins_lt> AH, another easy way is to just do sudo fdisk -l, that will list all devices.
[08:13] <liam> Apr 11 19:11:31 liam-desktop kernel: [17199361.240000]  usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6
[08:13] <liam> thats the whole line
[08:13] <jhutchins_lt> liam: Ok, try fdisk -l
[08:14] <greg_g> any specific tests I should do when I run the kubuntu live cd (20070411)??
[08:14] <jhutchins_lt> sudo fdisk -l
[08:14] <jhutchins_lt> I will eventually learn.
[08:14] <liam> does that not format a disk?
[08:14] <Pensacola> anyone alse having problems with kdewallet and feisty?
[08:14] <jhutchins_lt> liam: No, it only lists available partitions.
[08:14] <jhutchins_lt> Pensacola: Feisty's still inn #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <el_isma> (Edgy) I ran Mplayer and it crashed, now I can't get any audio. I don't want to restart. What should I do?
[08:15] <greg_g> el_isma: try restarting X (ctrl-alt-backspace) if you can do that
[08:15] <liam> that didnt do anything
[08:15] <jhutchins_lt> el_isma: Restart alsa?  Do ps ax | grep mplayer, make sure it's really gone.
[08:15] <jhutchins_lt> lia sudo fdisk -l returned nothing?
[08:15] <el_isma> jhutchins_lt: Yes, it's gone
[08:15] <jhutchins_lt> THat is a lowercase L, not a 1.
[08:16] <jhutchins_lt> el_isma: /etc/init.d/alsa restart then.
[08:16] <el_isma> greg_g: the process is dead.
[08:16] <jhutchins_lt> el_isma: sudo.
[08:16] <greg_g> el_isma: then I dont' know sorry
[08:16] <el_isma> jhutchins_lt: Thought that too, there's no alsa there, only alsa-utils
[08:17] <jhutchins_lt> el_isma: Ok, restart that then.
[08:17] <liam> any help guys
[08:17] <jhutchins_lt> liam: Only if you answer our questions.
[08:17] <jhutchins_lt> liam: sudo fdisk -l  should at least show the hard drive.
[08:17] <Minataku> !seen genii
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen genii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <el_isma> thanks greg_g, jhutchins_lt
[08:17] <Minataku> Oh, shut up, you
[08:17] <Minataku> lol
[08:17] <liam> honestly nothing shown up
[08:17] <liam> when i done fdisk -l
[08:18] <Admiral_Chicago> liam: thas because you need to type sudo fdisk -l
[08:18] <jhutchins_lt> liam: You have to use sudo.
[08:18] <gansinho_> -l is a L not a 1
[08:18] <liam> ok i dont this with sudo and i have hda1 to hda5
[08:18] <jhutchins_lt> no return means he didn't do it with sudo.
[08:18] <jhutchins_lt> liam: No sda?
[08:18] <liam> no
[08:18] <liam> no sda
[08:19] <jhutchins_lt> liam: google for your player model and linux then, it isn't appearing as a usb storage device but something else.
[08:20] <jhutchins_lt> That or the hotplug is messed up.
[08:20] <jfry> is pastebin down?
[08:20] <jfry> I keep getting a query error
[08:22] <jfry> Never mind... can anyone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15092/
[08:22] <jfry> I can't seem to upgrade my kernel after upgrading to 7.04
[08:23] <liam> im reading an article that says i need libmtp
[08:23] <liam> can you help  me with that
[08:23] <jfry> line 9, "The provided postinst hook script [/sbin/update-grub]  could not be run." seems to be where the probelm is
[08:23] <jfry> liam: is it in the repositories
[08:24] <jhutchins_lt> jfry: Feisty's still in #ubuntu+1, you should have better luck there.
[08:24] <liam> in adept?
[08:24] <jfry> yep
[08:24] <jhutchins_lt> !info libmtp
[08:24] <ubotu> Package libmtp does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[08:24] <jfry> jhutchins_lt: thanks... didn't know about that
[08:24] <jhutchins_lt> !info libtmp
[08:24] <ubotu> Package libtmp does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[08:24] <jhutchins_lt> !find libmtp
[08:25] <ubotu> Found: libmtp-dev, libmtp2
[08:25] <jhutchins_lt> !info libmtp2
[08:25] <ubotu> libmtp2: Implementation of Microsoft's MTP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.18-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 168 kB
[08:26] <liam> ive searched for libmtp in adept and i cant find it
[08:26] <jfry> liam: you probably need to enable the universe repositories... K->system->software sources
[08:27] <liam> in system there is no software sources
[08:29] <jfry> liam: then use adept.. adept -> manage repositories... just uncomment the universe repositorys
[08:30] <liam> ok im in managa repositories
[08:30] <liam> i have type, url, distro, and comments
[08:31] <jfry> look for the lines that mention universe, and optionally multiverse.  Make sure there is no # symbol at the front of those lines.
[08:31] <liam> do you mean disable?
[08:31] <jfry> one sec
[08:31] <liam> or delete the comment?
[08:31] <jfry> nm... they changed it
[08:32] <jfry> what does your screen look like... a text file, or a bunch of tabs and checkboxes?
[08:32] <liam> more like a text file
[08:33] <jfry> ok.... the lines that start with deb http://.... are repositories
[08:34] <jfry> some of them may have a # in front of them... this means they are disabled
[08:34] <liam> i have reset apply close option buttons
[08:34] <jfry> find one that is something like: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ etch universe multiverse
[08:34] <jfry> and make sure the # is not in front of it.
[08:35] <liam> theres none that starts us.archive
[08:35] <jfry> you may not be using the us archives
[08:35] <liam> ive been on witht this for hours ready to give up and go win lol
[08:35] <malik__> any one have any idea when new version of kubuntu coming out?
[08:35] <liam> im not using the us archs
[08:36] <jfry> but there should be one that ends in universe multiverse
[08:36] <liam> theres a main restricted universe multivers
[08:36] <jfry> if you read the comments (##) you may even see where it says to "## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'"
[08:37] <liam> right but what does it mean uncomment do i just delete he comment
[08:37] <jfry> yes.. remove the #
[08:38] <chemist109> aurel17: try this: mount -o loop,offset=307200 image.nrg /wheretomount
[08:38] <chemist109> It's from this wiki: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Mounting_Iso_Files
[08:38] <jfry> essentially, when adept (actually dpkg) retrieves lists of available software from the servers, it ignores lines that are "commented out" with a #
[08:38] <darin> hello. how do I remove a computer added using sudo smbpasswd -a -m COMPUTER_NAME?
[08:39] <jfry> if you remove the #, you are telling adept to retrieve the list of software from that repository
[08:39] <jfry> darin: what do you mean remove
[08:39] <liam> the only lines with # are comments
[08:39] <darin> remove from the SAMBA password file
[08:39] <liam> not address
[08:40] <darin> I added a pc, and I wish to access network shares without a password.  If I remove the above, will it accomplish this?
[08:41] <jfry> liam, copy and paste the contents to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and send me the url for it. I will review your file myself
[08:41] <jfry> liam, the url will be something like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12345/
[08:42] <liam> i cant its not a text file its the gui frontend
[08:42] <cheeseboy> superkaramba: error while loading shared libraries: libfam.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:42] <liam> ive downloaded the libmtp file can i do it manually
[08:42] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[08:42] <jfry> liam, you can't copy and paste... in that case open /etc/apt/sources.list and copy and paste it's contents
[08:43] <jfry> darin: smbpasswd -x
[08:44] <jfry> darin: smbpasswd -x -m COMPNAME
[08:44] <jfry> I think
[08:44] <liam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15094/
[08:44] <liam> thats the url jfry
[08:45] <cheeseboy> help?
[08:45] <darin> ty
[08:45] <NiceGuyUK> !php
[08:45] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:45] <jfry> liam; ok... your universe repositories are enabled afterall
[08:45] <chemist109> cheeseboy: try sudo apt-get install libfam0
[08:46] <cheeseboy> thnx i wasnt puttin the 0
[08:46] <liam> so why cant i get libmtp
[08:46] <jfry> liam: did you "fetch updates" in adept before doing your search?
[08:46] <chemist109> Cheeseboy: use apt-cache to search for package names:  apt-cache search libfam
[08:47] <liam> yes
[08:47] <jfry> liam: either that, or libmtp is not in the dapper repositories... you may need to upgrade to etch
[08:48] <jfry> liam: I am running feisty.. and searching for libmtp gives two results... libmtp-dev and libmtp5
[08:48] <liam> ok i haver the libmtp tar.gz
[08:48] <liam> will you teach me how to install it manually
[08:48] <jfry> liam I would google for compiling tar.gz
[08:49] <liam> thats what i have
[08:49] <jfry> it's usually as simple as unzipping, ./configure, make, make install
[08:49] <liam> i dont know how to do that
[08:50] <chemist109> liam: does: apt-cache search libmtp   give any results?
[08:50] <liam> sorry chemist where is this
[08:50] <chemist109> liam: type the following:  apt-cache search libmtp
[08:50] <chemist109> and see what the results are
[08:51] <liam> in google?
[08:51] <chemist109> liam: in a terminal
[08:51] <liam> ok
[08:51] <jfry> liam: http://www.linux.com/guides/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/chap13sec111.shtml
[08:52] <jfry> liam: let chemist help first... my link will get you started compliling from source... packages are always better if they are available.
[08:52] <evfreshman2025> hey can someone help me install a new version of Macromedia's Flash Player
[08:53] <evfreshman2025> im new to kubuntu and i have no idea how to install it
[08:53] <liam> ok i tried that and it didnt do anything
[08:53] <liam> ok sorry guys but im giving up now
[08:53] <chemist109> liam: no results?  That means its not in the repositories that you have enabled.  You might have to compile it after all.
[08:54] <liam> i know i have the file but i dont know how to do it
[08:54] <chemist109> follow jfry's link
[08:54] <liam> i think im going to use win
[08:54] <liam> i dont know how to compile and ive been on this for hours sorry
[08:54] <jfry> liam: don't give up just yet
[08:54] <liam> ok
[08:54] <evfreshman2025> Hello?
[08:54] <liam> what do i do next
[08:55] <jfry> where is the .tar.gz file
[08:55] <liam> on my desktop
[08:55] <jfry> open a terminal and type cd ~./Desktop
[08:56] <liam> ok
[08:56] <liam> im there
[08:56] <jfry> then tar xzpf libmtb...tar.gz
[08:57] <liam> do i need to sudo
[08:57] <jfry> make sure you have the correct file name not what I typed
[08:57] <jfry> liam: no, not until  you install the package
[08:58] <evfreshman2025> Can someone help me?
[08:58] <liam> it said command not found
[08:58] <jfry> liam: this command it unziping the file into a folder
[08:58] <jfry> liam: tar is not found?
[08:58] <liam> i can just extract it with the interface
[08:58] <jfry> you could do that if you wish
[08:59] <jfry> evfreshman2025: what's your problem
[08:59] <evfreshman2025> i need help installing a new version of Macromedia's Flash Player
[09:00] <liam> ok ive unzipped the file into a folder on the desktop
[09:00] <mikey> ok, got samba working I think.  Any way to allow the client pc to connect to network shares without requiring a user/pass?
[09:00] <liam> so the console is now in the desktop
[09:00] <liam> in that folder
[09:00] <jfry> evfreshman2025: not to be unhelpful, but I would google that... there are plenty of guides... and besides, I don't even remember
[09:00] <jfry> you cd'ed to the folder?
[09:00] <evfreshman2025> ugh okay thanks for your time
[09:01] <liam> cd'ed?
[09:01] <liam> i dont know i just extracted the files into a folder on desktop
[09:01] <jfry> your terminal is open to that folder
[09:01] <liam> then opened the console in that folder
[09:01] <jfry> ok
[09:01] <liam> yeah
[09:02] <jfry> now type: ./configure
[09:02] <jfry> this tells the system to run the configure script in the current directory.
[09:02] <chemist109> evfreshman2025: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[09:02] <liam> ok it stoped and said no acceptable C compiler
[09:02] <chemist109> installation instructions are right on the page
[09:03] <jfry> liam: I guess I was wrong... your system doesn't seem to want to do anything if your not root.
[09:03] <jfry> liam: try sudo su -
[09:03] <jfry> this will make your root, and use the root user's shell configuration
[09:03] <liam> same thing
[09:03] <chemist109> jfry:  maybe he needs build-essential?  I don't think gcc is in the default install.
[09:04] <jfry> chemist109: ahh you must be right... I've never run a system without the development tools installed
[09:04] <jfry> liam: apt-get build-essential
[09:04] <jfry> liam: apt-get install build-essential
[09:05] <evfreshman2025> hey someone real quick...
[09:05] <evfreshman2025> how do you unpackage a file?
[09:05] <_3oo3> tar -xvvf <filename>
[09:06] <_3oo3> how do put on lucky glove?
is that for me?
[09:06] <_3oo3> evfreshman2025: ya
[09:06] <evfreshman2025> okay thanks
[09:06] <liam> ok im trying but it wont work
[09:06] <jfry> liam: are you still root?
[09:06] <_3oo3> liam: who, me?
[09:06] <liam> i dont know lol
[09:06] <_3oo3> anyone know how to put on luck glove?
[09:07] <jfry> lliam: whoami
[09:07] <liam> ok it wont let me do that
[09:08] <_3oo3> dude
[09:08] <_3oo3> "su"
[09:08] <jfry> liam: you can't type whoami at the prompt?
[09:08] <liam> i try sudu apt-get install build-essential
[09:08] <jfry> you are typing sudo not sudu right?
[09:09] <_3oo3> this is why i swear you should make setting up the x server manual so people learn how to use the command line before using something smarter than they are
[09:09] <evfreshman2025> ugh it wont unpackage the file
[09:09] <liam> ok ok ok
[09:09] <elcuco_> hi, i am seeing a lot of upgrades on 6.10. can anyone comment on that? anything is going to break after installs?
[09:09] <liam> i think im just gonna go back to win
[09:09] <_3oo3> probably should
[09:09] <chemist109> evfreshman2025: you did tar -xzvf file?
[09:09] <evfreshman2025> liam: are you new to Linux?
[09:09] <liam> thanks for your help jfry, im just ignoring 3003
[09:09] <liam> yeah i am
[09:09] <jfry> liam: I know how you feel... wasn't long ago I was just as frustrated
[09:09] <_3oo3> or you could go to slackware and everything gets easy
[09:09] <evfreshman2025> this is what i put on the terminal
[09:09] <evfreshman2025> tar -xvvf <install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz>
[09:10] <evfreshman2025> liam: Join the club
[09:10] <_3oo3> ubuntu is too...but it's a little different
[09:10] <jfry> liam: now I manage a number of linux servers
[09:10] <evfreshman2025> lol =]  im new too, confusing aint it!?
[09:10] <liam> see what bugs me is ppl like 3oo3
[09:10] <liam> who think there funny
[09:10] <_3oo3> liam: how so?
[09:10] <liam> thanks for your help jfry
[09:10] <liam> ill crack it another
[09:10] <chemist109> evfreshman2025: you need -xzvf
[09:10] <liam> day
[09:11] <_3oo3> no, I'm remarkably unfunny.  But I DO know how to use the OS I installed.  unlike SOME people I don't just use linux to brag to my friends.... :P
[09:11] <evfreshman2025> oh okay thanks
[09:11] <jfry> liam: as frustrated as  you are... he is equally as frustrated, because you jumping in in the middle rather than learning from bottom... most linux users do it you way... most pros think you need to start simple, at the command line.
[09:11] <_3oo3> jfry: that's absolutely correct
[09:11] <liam> guess what i dont brag to my friends either i only just installed it  and im LEARNING to use it
[09:11] <evfreshman2025> grrrr this is what it says
[09:11] <evfreshman2025> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[09:12] <_3oo3> the command line is where you learn what linux really is.  if you can't use a command line you're not using linux, you're using X11 and a windows manager.
[09:12] <jfry> liam: i did it your way... and went back and learned the rest later... trust me, you do miss a lot that way... but if you determined you can be productive much sooner
[09:13] <evfreshman2025> what does "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' " mean?
[09:13] <liam> sorry if you find that stupid 3oo3, however learn this 3oo3 if you dont help ppl instead of calling them stupid this os that you love so much will always lag win
[09:13] <liam> sorry
[09:13] <chemist109> evfreshman2025: you used: tar -xzvf install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz     right?
[09:13] <evfreshman2025> yes
[09:13] <_3oo3> jfry: that's weird because in my first two weeks i had an irc server, ftp server, http server and smtp server all running off a box with just a command line....i dont think it works like that...some people just get scared of the flashing console ^_^
[09:13] <liam> ill do some reading on command line jfry thx
[09:13] <jfry> liam: if you really want to learn it... stop trying to make it behave like windows, in fact don't do anything productive... learn the command line, understand the way config files work, init scripts, etc... get a book or read an online manual... it's not hard, just different
[09:14] <_3oo3> 's good advice
[09:14] <liam> im not scared of the console, i can use dos PROBABLY better than u 3oo3
[09:14] <_3oo3> LOLOLOL
[09:14] <_3oo3> HAHAHAHAHAHAH
[09:14] <_3oo3> if you SAY so
[09:14] <_3oo3> how old are you...?
[09:14] <liam> my age means what?
[09:14] <_3oo3> alot.
[09:14] <liam> wrong
[09:14] <jfry> liam: then you have a head start.. but dos is nothing compared to linux... everything can be done at the command line in linux.. the gui is just a UI for the command line.
[09:14] <_3oo3> and if you have to ask, it means you're too young to be qualified to make that assumption ;)
[09:15] <chemist109> geez!  would you both quit with the schoolyard taunts already!
[09:15] <liam>  ok 3oo3 im 41 am i old enough
[09:15] <liam> how old are you?
[09:15] <_3oo3> HAHAHAH then you're an idiot
[09:15] <mikey> networking question:  can I allow a windows pc to connect to my linux share without typing in a user/pass?
[09:15] <_3oo3> mikey:  yes
[09:15] <mikey> instructions please
[09:16] <liam> 3oo3 please you call me an idiot yet you dont know me keep your comments to yourself
[09:16] <_3oo3> so is it a shared folder or hard drive?
[09:16] <mikey> shared folder
[09:16] <jfry> liam: and get used to people like 3003, he is a little irritated because you didn't take the time to figure it out for yourself like he did... it's like the new money/old money thing.
[09:16] <_3oo3> liam: coming from the kid that thinks not knowing the command line is more productive...
[09:16] <mikey> I can see the share in network neighborhood on the windows pc
[09:16] <mikey> but when selected, it is asking for user/pass
[09:16] <liam> again 3oo3 keep your comments to yourself
[09:17] <_3oo3> mikey:  is it a hard drive...like an nfs, or is it a....
[09:17] <_3oo3> liam: im an american.  sue me.
[09:17] <mikey> shared folder on ide drive
[09:17] <_3oo3> mikey k hold on
[09:17] <mikey> ok
[09:17] <liam> please dont label your fellow country men with the same idiot brush you are tard with
[09:18] <liam> jfry, i do try to read stuff on my own but i couldnt find anything on this subject thats why i just asked for help
[09:18] <geggam> generally those who flame others about being inept at something are trying to hide their own issues
[09:18] <dell190> How is everyone today?
[09:18] <jfry> liam: good luck... I need to get some work done now.... I hope you figure it out, in the mean time, please don't let people like 3oo3 get to you, they represent a small but verbal part of the community
[09:18] <_3oo3> *yawn*.  idiot brush?  I've got twice your IQ score and three times the education.  I don't care.  Seriously.
[09:18] <geggam> liam,  what are u attempting to do
[09:19] <liam> geggam, im trying to install libmtp, inorder to get my mtp player to work in amarok
[09:19] <liam> thanks jfry
[09:19] <_3oo3> mike, have you tried to use samba?
[09:19] <ohmbr> hi...
[09:19] <mikey> using it
[09:19] <geggam> have u added he medibuntu sources to apt liam ?
[09:19] <jfry> liam: no problem
[09:19] <geggam> the*
[09:20] <mikey> the server is running, the shares can be seen.
[09:20] <liam> not sure, jfry checked my repos and said they were ok
[09:20] <mikey> but, I would like to access without typing in a user name and password
[09:20] <_3oo3> also, what you could do is put that hard drive on the same mobo as your linux and just mount that partition....or you could create a network folder instead of a windows share
[09:20] <mikey> different box
[09:20] <mikey> via ethernet
[09:20] <jfry> geggam: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15094/
[09:20] <Edulix> hi
[09:21] <Edulix> is there any gui to admin the fstab?
[09:21] <liam> ok thanks guys ive got to go now
[09:21] <_3oo3> jfry: that part would be what.....the people who learned how to use their operating system?
[09:21] <liam> thanks for your help
[09:21] <liam> bye
[09:22] <jfry> _3oo3: no, simply the people who, instead of ignoring the newbs that irritate them, must torment them into running back to Windows.
[09:22] <_3oo3> jfry: yeah, it's good for the linux community
[09:22] <_3oo3> you have to keep the stupid ones out so the smart ones can be productive.  if they don't have that mentality, they should go back to their communist windows.
[09:23] <geggam> too bad no one flamed your dumbass there so we could get some work done
[09:23] <HanzZ> bad idea
[09:23] <_3oo3> dude I got flamed alll the time
[09:23] <jfry> _3oo3: you make the community look bad... the community can only be stronger if there are more people learning... everyone learns differently... some figure stuff out, some need a bit of hand holding
[09:23] <ewgeni90> hello
[09:23] <_3oo3> jfry: what about RTFM and GOOGLE?
[09:23] <mikey> 3003: reading your prior comments.  so what would you recommend is the best was to stream my media on the linux box to my pc?
[09:23] <aaroncampbell> What is the best thing to use for vnc on my system? (setting this up as a server that I can access from elsewhere)
[09:23] <_3oo3> mikey:  http.
[09:23] <aaroncampbell> I added the vncserver package, but I see no way to set it up...
[09:23] <_3oo3> mikey:  ftp.
[09:24] <_3oo3> the easiest anyway
[09:24] <mikey> they are in the same house, different rooms
[09:24] <mikey> and, I will be streaming large video files
[09:24] <_3oo3> mikey: should be fine for that.
[09:24] <_3oo3> should be fast, too
[09:24] <don_jr__> I have an older version of the nvidia driver, do I need to remove it before using envy to get the more up to date version?
[09:25] <mikey> hmm...how do I go about setting this up?
[09:25] <_3oo3> jfry: as for making the community look bad....if someone isn't intelligent enough to use google-- considering the massive volumes of linux forums....then they probably shouldn't be using a linux system....that would be like giving BSD to a linux user and taking away his internet connection.
[09:25] <jfry> _3oo3: When someone is trying something new, for the first time, sometimes they don't even know where to start.  He tried what he knew... he tried aptitude, he didn't even knwo the terms to google for from that point on.
[09:26] <_3oo3> jfry: they need to learn how to do that.  don't just give them the answers without showing them how to research it.  you're just giving them fish.
[09:26] <HanzZ> _3oo3: so find information for him/her and tell him/her, how did you find it...
[09:26] <_3oo3> exactly, HanzZ
[09:26] <_3oo3> mikey -- http or ftp?
[09:27] <_3oo3> i say ftp
[09:27] <mikey> dunno...I will be accessing the media using windows MCE
[09:27] <HanzZ> i don't know, what you're talking about, but it's my "quick opinion L)
[09:27] <HanzZ> *" :)
[09:27] <_3oo3> it's faster-- i won't show you how to do streaming, but for quick file transfers it's the way to go
[09:27] <_3oo3> you go to /etc/inetd.conf
[09:28] <_3oo3> uncomment the proftp daemon
[09:28] <_3oo3> exit
[09:28] <_3oo3> save
[09:28] <_3oo3> ps waux | grep inetd
[09:28] <HanzZ> mikey:  i'm using kaffeine for simple streaming :) it's video player for KDE
[09:28] <mikey> don't want to transfer. I want to select a movie using Media Center on my pc, and have my linux box serve it
[09:28] <_3oo3> kill -HUP <inetd.prod id>
[09:28] <HanzZ> oh
[09:28] <_3oo3> mkey you would have to do it in a browser
[09:28] <_3oo3> and yes, it will work
[09:28] <jfry> HanzZ: lets just say we had a newb that I was trying to help, _3oo3 took it upon himself to encourage said newb to scurry back to windows.
[09:29] <_3oo3> jfry: just doing my part ;)
[09:29] <jfry> _3oo3: I'd had left long ago if it wern't for some very patient people in IRC... thats why I am here returning the favor when I can.
[09:29] <don_jr__> Should I remove my old nvidia drivers before using envy to install the new ones, or will envy write over the old ones for me??
[09:30] <_3oo3> it won't hinder his functionality, dude...quit worrying about it--- he's a desktop user...they shouldn't be on a linux system anyway...he's prob better off
[09:30] <hansen> kmail can't decrypt smime mail. I think I'm missing gpg-agent. Where do I get that for kubuntu?
[09:30] <_3oo3> hansen, try #kubuntu
[09:30] <jfry> _3oo3: once you get them past the inital discomfort, they get a little more courage and figure a lot more out on their own... people like you prevent them from reaching that inital feeling of success.
[09:30] <xenthral__> _3oo3: how magnanimous of you to decide that for him ?
[09:30] <mikey> beating head against wall here...should be an easy way to navigate to a network share, select an mp3, and have it play on my windows box
[09:30] <_3oo3> oops htis is #kubuntu
[09:31] <hansen> :)
[09:31] <mikey> aka streaming not transfering first
[09:31] <_3oo3> mikey i've already told you how to do this
[09:31] <_3oo3> you can stream via ftp
[09:31] <mikey> but, I want to use the media center interface
[09:32] <_3oo3> XenThraL: you dont have to thank me
[09:32] <XenThraL> I wasn't
[09:32] <_3oo3> mikey: hrm....that's rough.....lemme check around
[09:32] <HanzZ> lol
[09:32] <_3oo3> mikey:  this problem would be better addressed in #windows, honestly
[09:33] <don_jr__> hansen try apt-cache search gpg-agent.  I just ran it but not sure if it has what you need or not.
[09:33] <_3oo3> i would keep both rooms open.....cross-os stuff is a pain
[09:33] <mikey> really? but it I am setting up samba, is this not the correct forum for this?
[09:33] <mikey> if*
[09:33] <mikey> I am sooo close I think
[09:34] <_3oo3> mikey: it is....but you won't be able to access a file on your linux box wihtout a password, as far as I know-- you have to be logged in to have permissions
[09:34] <mikey> I can see the share using network neighborhood, and if I wish to setup a user/pass, I'm sure I can access my media
[09:34] <mikey> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[09:34] <_3oo3> rwx required login
[09:34] <mikey> so that's it
[09:34] <_Neil> can someone help me add a network printer?
[09:34] <_Neil> ive started cups, but cant find it
[09:34] <_Neil> its a shared one on windows xp
[09:34] <_3oo3> what kernel is kubuntu using right now?
[09:35] <HanzZ> feisty?
[09:35] <HanzZ> ;)
[09:35] <_3oo3> no, i meant what version number...feisty is prop jargon
[09:35] <_3oo3> _Neil: cups uses a web interface
[09:35] <_3oo3> go to localhost:XXX
[09:35] <_3oo3> xxx = port you specified
[09:36] <_Neil> I didnt specify one :/
[09:36] <_3oo3> then it's the default for kubuntu
[09:36] <tuco> I want to know how to get a source list with the 20000 something packages...firefox,fglrx etc...?
[09:36] <_3oo3> i think it's 450
[09:36] <hansen> don_jr__: thanks! it's called gnupg-agent, that's why I didn't find it at first
[09:36] <_3oo3> im not sure, and i dont want to validate that though
[09:36] <_Neil> ta
[09:36] <_Neil> hmm doesnt seem to be
[09:36] <_3oo3> it's some port....can't remember....google "cups port"
[09:37] <don_jr__> hansen no problem, remember that apt-cache search <what you want> command, it's a life saver! =)
[09:37] <HanzZ> _3oo3: ok.. but on feisty i have 2.6.20-14-generic and on edgy 2.6.17-11-something
[09:37] <hansen> now I get this: "gpgme_op_decrypt_verify() returned this error code:  117440523" and kmail says bad passphrase -- but it never asked for a passphrase in the first place
[09:37] <_3oo3> so feisty is the beta os?
[09:37] <HanzZ> _3oo3: rtfm... google is your friend :-P
[09:38] <_Neil> _3oo3: http://localhost:631/ :)
[09:38] <tuco> I need to know how to get a source list with the 20000 something packages please...firefox,fglrx etc...?
[09:38] <jkjk> After kernel update on edgy today X wouldn't start. i fixed that now just to notice that only ONE of my cores (intel dual core) is detected :( What can i do ?
[09:38] <_3oo3> HanzZ: but i dont care that much :P
[09:38] <_3oo3> google sounds like effort
[09:39] <HanzZ> jkjk: have you smp version of kernel?
[09:39] <hansen> hmm, dirmngr was missing too. getting closer...
[09:40] <_Neil> hmm I still cant add a network printer to cups, its shared from windows xp
[09:40] <_Neil> can anyone help? It's canon
[09:40] <jkjk> HanzZ: I don't know i just clicked update in adept...
[09:40] <tuco> Please someone help with my source list. I need to install ATi drivers
[09:40] <hansen> kind of funny that I have to mess around with this. I'm the guy who wrote dirmngr :)
[09:41] <tuco> Well apparently God create Adam, and now he messes with men in general!
[09:41] <tuco> created
[09:42] <tuco> but this doesn't help with my Ati drivers installation
[09:42] <cheeseboy> hey how do i find out what module eth0 is?
[09:42] <hansen> bingo! now it works. I was missing pinentry-qt (the app that asks for the passphrase)
[09:42] <inanimate> Any idea why NFS mounts keep freezing in Kubuntu? They work all right for about 5 minutes, but then they become unresponsive. I have both nfs-common and portmap installed.
[09:46] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: you around? we need to figure out how to get gpart to not discard the info we need, I wonder if using -vv flags with gpart would give us what we need?
[09:47] <crweb> current amarok build won't create tables correctly in a postgresql database
[09:47] <TheSpunkyLobster> yup i'm here :)
[09:47] <TheSpunkyLobster> i can try that :)
[09:47] <crweb> anybody have any idea why?  Lots of errors int he postgres log
[09:47] <dell190> is there any way where i can make kubuntu mount my windows drive automaticly??
[09:47] <TheSpunkyLobster> do you want me in knoppix of kubuntu live cd wise?
[09:47] <geggam> man created god to explain the mess /dev/urandom causes
[09:47] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: it doesn't matter which.
[09:48] <TheSpunkyLobster> ok
[09:48] <cheeseboy> anyone know?
[09:48] <geggam> yes dell190 .... add the partition to fstab
[09:48] <TheSpunkyLobster> going to reboot back into kubuntu then as i can't get a lan connection on knoppix right now for some reason
[09:48] <don> every time I've used envy it's screwed up my computer.....this is frustrating.
[09:48] <geggam> several ways cheeseboy ... dmesg is prolly the quickest
[09:48] <dell190> geggam: how do i do that?
[09:48] <LeeJunFan> TheSpunkyLobster: I don't see any flags in 'man gpart' which tell it to not discard, it explains how discard works, but not how to have it not discard. We want the sectors for the ones it's discarding.
[09:49] <tuco> Please someone help with my fglrx! :-(
[09:49] <TheSpunkyLobster> yup that would be what we need, as it finds the other parition there, just ignores it
[09:49] <jkjk> HanzZ: Any idea ?
[09:49] <tuco> or repositories...I only seem to get 16xxx packages, I used to have 20xxx at least
[09:50] <geggam> open an editor and edit /etc/fstab... open a console type "man fstab"... look for the examples in the man page and improvise... do not reboot until icheck your work
[09:52] <jfry> mikey did you get it working?
[09:52] <mikey> lol... no
[09:52] <mikey> still trying things
[09:52] <jfry> mikey: I am pretty sure all you need to do is specify a user and group for the share to use to access files
[09:52] <mikey> this really should be a basic thing I would believe
[09:53] <mikey> as most companies must set this up is they serve via linux
[09:53] <mikey> ok.  guide me plz
[09:53] <TheSpunkyLobster> LeeJunFan: so i'm doing sudo gpart /dev/hda -vv ?
[09:53] <TheSpunkyLobster> or rather sudo gpart -vv /dev/hda
[09:54] <jfry> mikey: I think you need to use security = user and force user = user.with.access.to.shared.files
[09:54] <mikey> do I make these settings via the share gui or via the conf file?
[09:54] <jfry> mikey: I always change my samba config by editing the file itself, not sure if the gui allows these options.
[09:55] <David> Hi guys, I updated my system yesterday and so the package "knetworkmanager" doesn't work (I'm using kubuntu 7.04).
[09:55] <mikey> ok. so what syntax do I use, it which areas of the conf file?
[09:55] <crweb> David: same here.  just wait till its fixed
[09:56] <jfry> look that up... I'm not a pro... google smb.conf user security
[09:56] <mikey> ok, ty
[09:57] <David> crweb: Thanks ;)
[09:57] <jfry> setting security = share is a global setting... you may want to simply try force user and force group
[09:59] <jfry> mikey: a good example is here: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/manual4/smbconf.html... second share defination from the end of the page is a truely public share.
[09:59] <cheeseboy> anyone use superkaramba?
[09:59] <cskj> hey
[09:59] <ewgeni90> when going out the new ubuntu version 7.4?
[09:59] <mikey> lol... I reading that same urrrrl
[09:59] <TheSpunkyLobster> LeeJunFan: scanning now with those flags
[09:59] <mikey> brb
[09:59] <cheeseboy> ewgeni90 19th i think
[09:59] <jfry> mikey: you will need to use force user and force group to specify the user and group to use for access to files from that share.
[10:00] <cskj> i installed java 6, and i installed frostwire afterwards, but when i try to open frostwire it doesn't...what do i do? can anyone help??
[10:00] <ewgeni90> thank you :)
[10:00] <mikey> jfry: ok. ty
[10:00] <pascal_> How do I activate zeroconf?
[10:01] <ewgeni90> its free version ? same ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[10:01] <don_jr__> can I download the edgy kubuntu iso and burn it from a console only?
[10:01] <dell190> geggam: Should i Pastebin the file?
[10:01] <jfry> mikey: I usually create a publicsmb user and give them 766 access to the folder and files I am sharing, then with force user and force group all users accessing the share are accessing the filesystem as publicsmb:publicsmb
[10:01] <cheeseboy> no one uses it :(
[10:02] <David> crweb: The konqueror file manager... doesn't get the exact folder size.
[10:02] <pascal_> don_jr__:  you can burn it with cdrecord
[10:02] <David> the tooltip
[10:02] <don_jr__> pascal and I can do that from terminal?
[10:02] <pascal_> yes
[10:02] <crweb> David: it does
[10:02] <crweb> David:  it just isn't recursive
[10:02] <don_jr__> pascal_ okay, can I download the iso from within terminal?
[10:02] <pascal_> don_jr__:  it cdrecord is installed  of course
[10:02] <mikey> jfry: I think I can work through setting up a new user.  Bit of a noob, but learning
[10:02] <pascal_> yes: wget [url] 
[10:03] <don_jr__> pascal_ thanks
[10:03] <cskj> can anyone help me with my java problem??
[10:03] <cskj> i installed java 6
[10:03] <pascal_> cskj: probably there is someone, but you have to ask the question ;-)
[10:03] <cskj> and frostwire
[10:03] <geggam> hold on dell190
[10:04] <cskj> but i can't get frostwire to open
[10:04] <BluesKaj> cskj, did you use adept or synaptic to install java ?
[10:05] <cskj> no...i installed java manually
[10:05] <BluesKaj> good, maybe a reboot ?
[10:05] <cskj> i converted the rpm to a deb package n installed from there
[10:05] <cskj> i did reboot
[10:06] <BluesKaj> you din't need to use alien for java6 , it's available for ubuntu
[10:06] <cskj> i couldn't find it in adept or synaptic
[10:06] <cskj> so...i had to download an rpm n convert it
[10:07] <BluesKaj> cskj , did you try the java site ?
[10:07] <cskj> yepp
[10:07] <cskj> i used thier instructions to install
[10:07] <BluesKaj> strange
[10:07] <don_jr__> does edgy come stock with nvidia drivers??
[10:08] <LeeJunFan> !info sun-java6-jre | cskj
[10:08] <ubotu> cskj: sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 6174 kB, installed size 14144 kB
[10:08] <don_jr__> cskj you can get the java by opening the backports...yeah what ubotu said! lol
[10:08] <acidtux> fdh
[10:08] <acidtux> df
[10:08] <acidtux> hello
[10:09] <ewgeni90> hi
[10:09] <don_jr__> hi
[10:09] <LeeJunFan> don_jr__: not default nvidia proprietary, those you have to install yourself.
[10:09] <LeeJunFan> !nvidia
[10:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:09] <cskj> my prob is not getting it
[10:09] <cskj> i have it n i have it installed
[10:09] <ubuntu_> hallo
[10:09] <don_jr__> LeeJunfan I know how to get them that way, I just wasn't sure if they were built in or not yet.
[10:09] <cskj> i just can't get frostwire to run
[10:09] <ubuntu_> hello
[10:09] <acidtux> i have problem for install ".run" files
[10:09] <ubuntu_> i have a big problem
[10:09] <ubuntu_> i want to install debian etch with kde
[10:10] <don_jr__> LeeJunFan but I have trouble with getting an updated version that will work, theold versions work, none of thenewer versions of the driver work.
[10:10] <ohmbr> is there a Brazilian chanel about kubuntu?
[10:10] <ubuntu_> can anyone help me?
[10:10] <don_jr__> acidtux sh filename.run
[10:10] <Yorokobi> !br | ohmbr
[10:10] <ubotu> ohmbr: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[10:10] <BluesKaj> intersting cskj, cuz there's a linux self extracting bin file that works directly in kubuntu :http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[10:10] <ohmbr> ubotu: tks
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <chemist109> acidtux: Usually you do sudo sh filename.run
[10:11] <don_jr__> chemist109 yeah most of the time it'll tell you if ya need su power to do it, I always try without first till it tells me I have to! =_)
[10:12] <acidtux> i had testing on sudo "sh filenem.run" but he say "Can't open"
[10:12] <acidtux> :(
[10:12] <cskj> ok thanx alot blueskaj
[10:12] <cskj> i'll try this
[10:12] <acidtux> its for soft LOKI and game Return To Castel
[10:12] <cskj> should i uninstall my previous installation of java first??
[10:12] <acidtux> thx all ;)
[10:14] <ewgeni90> why ubuntu dont have the automatic installation like in windows xp?
[10:15] <don_jr__> cause it's not windowsxp??
[10:15] <ewgeni90> yes... i know, but i dont know how to install programs
[10:15] <don_jr__> alot of stuff will auto install acctually, they just havn't implimented every single thing there is out there to install.
[10:15] <don_jr__> learn
[10:15] <ewgeni90> i have problems
[10:16] <don_jr__> most of them can be found in the packages that auto install themselvs with the right commands
[10:16] <don_jr__> what are you lookingto install?
[10:16] <ewgeni90> i want to install google Earth
[10:16] <don_jr__> don't know what that is, do you know if there is even a linux version of it?
[10:17] <chemist109> There's a linux version of google earth
[10:18] <chemist109> You need to be sure that you have hardware 3d acceleration
[10:18] <don_jr__> Oh? the site says it's to comeout later this year, where is the linux version of it found?
[10:18] <freechelmi_> ewgeni90: I think google earth
[10:18] <freechelmi_> is in an additional repository
[10:19] <freechelmi_> but as it's a closed software
[10:19] <freechelmi_> it's not easy to istribute
[10:19] <freechelmi_> ewgeni90: just download google earth from the google website
[10:19] <Sanne> http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[10:19] <freechelmi_> and double click on it
[10:19] <freechelmi_> as easy as XP ,
[10:19] <freechelmi_> so i don't understand your question
[10:20] <freechelmi_> maybe with konqueror  ?
[10:20] <ewgeni90> no
[10:20] <ewgeni90> its not easy with Konsul
[10:21] <freechelmi_> ewgeni90: you double clicked on the google installer ?
[10:21] <karmo> i have google earth installed from medibuntu repo
[10:21] <freechelmi_> it laucnhed the Konsole ?
[10:21] <freechelmi_> and then the GUI ?
[10:21] <freechelmi_> then click click ....
[10:21] <ewgeni90> ok
[10:22] <freechelmi_> ewgeni90: this was a question
[10:22] <freechelmi_> actually
[10:22] <Sanne> karmo: it's even available for dapper amd64... cool, thanks for mentioning.
[10:22] <freechelmi_> I did not even know about medibuntu
[10:23] <freechelmi_> But don't they do the same as the PLF ?
[10:23] <karmo> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
[10:23] <freechelmi_> even if ubuntu plf is a bit dead
[10:24] <ewgeni90> its GoogleEarthLinux.bin file
[10:24] <karmo> i have this line in my sources.list
[10:24] <Sanne> howto is here: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[10:27] <freechelmi_> ewgeni90: yep and you dble clicked on it ?
[10:27] <freechelmi_> Please if you want some help
[10:27] <freechelmi_> be more precise
[10:27] <ewgeni90> it is now downlading
[10:27] <ewgeni90> 65%
[10:27] <freechelmi_> ok , I m leaving then
[10:28] <ts_> will someone help me set up my vid card driver so I have more than just the 600x800 resolution?
[10:29] <ewgeni90> now its fine
[10:30] <savetheWorld> Helping a brazillian guy with Kubuntu - Any one know How I can look up the english version of this erro message?  (its from apt-get)    "locale: No foi possvel atribuir LC_ALL  localizao padro: Arquivo ou diretrio inexistente"...
[10:30] <frojnd> can someone help me on that one. I can't play avi file. What do I have to fix in kaffeine or gxine player. Here is the output of an error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15116/
[10:31] <ewgeni90> The file file:///home/ewgeni90/Desktop/GoogleEarthLinux.bin is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.
[10:33] <ewgeni90> its have problems?
[10:33] <XenThraL> savetheWorld: "locale: It wasn't possible to attribute(assign?) LC_ALL to the default location: File or directory doesn't exist"
[10:33] <savetheWorld> 
[10:33] <savetheWorld> locale: It was not possible to attribute to LC_ALL to the localization standard: Archive or inexistent directory
[10:33] <savetheWorld> XenThraL: Thanks! :-)
[10:33] <Black_Cat> miaow2all
[10:33] <Yorokobi> frojnd, have you looked at !avi yet?
[10:34] <XenThraL> savetheWorld: no problem
[10:34] <frojnd> Yorokobi>: what do u mean
[10:34] <savetheWorld> Great minds think alike (or some approximation thereof)
[10:34] <Yorokobi> !avi | frojnd
[10:34] <ubotu> frojnd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:34] <savetheWorld> !locale
[10:34] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[10:34] <frojnd> oh u mean codecs
[10:35] <frojnd> other avi can be played..
[10:35] <Black_Cat> for those who need avi support, libxine-extracodecs should suit them well.
[10:36] <chemist109> ewgeni90: you should follow Sanne's suggestion and follow the directions here: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[10:37] <ewgeni90> ok ,thank you :)
[10:37] <calamari> hi
[10:37] <chemist109> ewgeni90: after you do what's on that page, do this:  sudo apt-get install googleearth googleearth-data
[10:38] <Sanne> ewgeni90: if you haven't done already, youmight also read over this introduction how to install software in ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[10:38] <Shinigami> Hi all, can some kind soul direct me to a good current HOW-TO/Tutorial on setting up/syncing a WM5 PDA?
[10:39] <calamari> when I boot up and get to the graphical login screen, my screen refresh rate is correct.  But when I log in, KDE changes my refresh rate to a low interlaced rate.  What could be changing it?
[10:40] <ewgeni90> ok, i updating my system .
[10:40] <Black_Cat> !resolution
[10:40] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:41] <calamari> Fix this by running the gconf-editor tool as a normal user and altering the screen settings within Gnome's XML configuration registry to equal the /etc/X11/xorg.conf settings:
[10:41] <calamari> startx gconf-editor
[10:41] <calamari> that doesn't seem to apply for kde
[10:43] <ewgeni90> in the terminal : sudo apt-get google earth?
[10:44] <chemist109> ewgeni90: sudo apt-get install googleearth googleearth-data
[10:44] <calamari> anyone know where kde would store its video resolution and refresh rate settings?  I don't mean xorg.conf, I mean for KDE
[10:44] <chemist109> calamari: could try kmenu>system settings>monitor & display
[10:45] <calamari> chemist109: yeah that doesn't work right because I'm using the nvidia driver
[10:45] <calamari> but maybe that will get me closer
[10:46] <ewgeni90> error: E: the computer dont see the file with this name
[10:46] <chemist109> calamari: did you install nvidia-settings?  If so, did you try using that?
[10:46] <calamari> I'm really just trying to find out some KDE information here
[10:47] <calamari> I was hoping this was stored on disk, in a file somewhere
[10:47] <yigal> I have just decided to move from GNOME to KDE as I find KDE to be much more user friendly for doing "advanced" work.  Why is GNOME so popular these days?  Novell, Fedora, and Ubuntu have all adopted it as the GUI of choice?  Why do you think this is the case?
[10:47] <Kyral> calamari: Search through ~/.kde
[10:47] <calamari> Kyral: for what?  hehe
[10:47] <bina> Hi, im using the upgrade tool to upgrade kubuntu, but on configuring libssl0.9.8, dpkg has put up a screen requiring me to click ok, but i dont seem to be able to, anybody know what i can do?
[10:47] <calamari> I don't know what format the info is in
[10:47] <Kyral> yigal: I dunno...I heard that in Europe KDE is more popular
[10:48] <Kyral> calamari: Practically everything in ~/.kde is a text file
[10:48] <calamari> Kyral: that's not exactly what I meant
[10:48] <Kyral> ???
[10:48] <calamari> grep -r <magic here> *
[10:48] <Kyral> hmm
[10:48] <Kyral> ah!
[10:49] <yigal> Kyral: KDE has lovely sounds, is an easier place to do CLI+GUI with Yakuke installed by default. Its strange how there seams to be so much funding into GNOME right now. I am glad that Adobe uses QT and other businesses.
[10:49] <Kyral> in a terminal have watch running lsof so you can catch files opening
[10:49] <Kyral> and then run KControl and modify the settings :D
[10:49] <Kyral> If you are quick you should be able to see KControl modify the file where it puts the settings
[10:50] <calamari> Kyral: good idea
[10:50] <Kyral> make sure you grep out lsof so you can get the stuff you want...
[10:51] <Flare183> How can I mount my GPX Portable MP3 Player?
[10:51] <yigal> Flare183: it depends on what file system it is
[10:51] <yigal> Flare183: Also what you want to use it for
[10:52] <Flare183> vfat
[10:52] <Flare183> music
[10:52] <yigal> Flare183: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/"player" "some directory you make"
[10:53] <yigal> Flare183: although I think amarok can do this for you
[10:53] <ewgeni90> the new version of kubuntu the installation from BOOT?
[10:53] <Flare183> but my computer doesn't even recongize that it is there
[10:53] <yigal> Flare183: I doubt this
[10:53] <Flare183> don't
[10:54] <yigal> Flare183: please ls /dev > old_dev
[10:54] <Sanne> calamari: I have no idea what this file ist for, there's a "refresh" setting in it: ~/.kde/share/config/displayconfigrc
[10:54] <yigal> Flare183: I assume you have your player in
[10:54] <Flare183> yes
[10:54] <yigal> Flare183: after you do this then, pull out the player
[10:54] <calamari> Sanne: cool thanks
[10:55] <yigal> Flare183: cat /dev > new_dev
[10:55] <Sanne> calamari: you're welcome
[10:55] <calamari> Sanne: unfortunately it says refresh=85 :P
[10:55] <Sanne> calamari: same here
[10:55] <yigal> then $diff old_dev new_dev
[10:55] <Flare183> ?
[10:55] <yigal> Flare183: excuse me is it a usb device
[10:55] <Flare183> yes
[10:56] <yigal> Flare183: if so then just lsusb
[10:56] <yigal> Flare183: $lsusb
[10:56] <Sanne> calamari: it matches my actual refresh rate, though, so it might mean something after all...
[10:56] <yigal> Flare183: it is not there?
[10:56] <Flare183> http://de.pastebin.ca/435226
[10:56] <calamari> Sanne: yeah my refresh rate should be 85
[10:56] <calamari> Sanne: wish it was .. hehe
[10:56] <calamari> kinda gives me a headache
[10:57] <Flare183> it's not there
[10:57] <yigal> Flare183: you are sure it is vfat
[10:57] <Flare183> yes
[10:57] <Flare183> it has to be if windows recongizes it there
[10:57] <Sanne> calamari: hmmm... never heard about kde doing something different from xorg.conf. If nobody knows here, maybe try to ask in #kde?
[10:57] <calamari> Sanne: yeah they didn't know either.. guess it's a stumper!
[10:58] <Sanne> calamari: oh... then I would search launchpad for possible bug reports about this, and the ubuntu/kubuntu forums. But maybe you already did all this, if so, sorry...
[10:59] <Flare183> yigal:> still there?
[10:59] <calamari> Sanne: yeah there's a bug report, but no activity on it
[10:59] <calamari> Sanne: but I thought maybe it was really just a misconfigured file
[10:59] <yigal> Flare183: yes, I am trying to understand your situation is very very weird
[10:59] <chemist109> Flare183: When you plug in your player in Windows, does it get a drive letter (D: E:, whatever)?
[10:59] <Flare183> yes
[10:59] <Flare183> I think drive G:
[10:59] <Sanne> calamari: ah, well, mostly it is ;)
[10:59] <yigal> Flare183: your linux box doesn't see your usb at a low level hardware level
[11:00] <yigal> Flare183: It seems almost as if it is kernel related
[11:00] <skreech> I think my mouse just crashed the screen :-(
[11:00] <Flare183> yigal:> soo..
[11:00] <skreech> I was dragging something and visually it stopped part way
[11:00] <skreech> now I can't click, right click or type
[11:00] <yigal> Flare183: I can't help
[11:01] <yigal> Flare183: are you using a generic kernel?
[11:01] <Flare183> both 386 and generic
[11:01] <Flare183> no 386
[11:01] <Flare183> yeah
[11:01] <Flare183> that's it
[11:01] <yigal> Flare183: have you checked the forums Ubuntu and Kubuntu on this issue?
[11:02] <Flare183> not the entire fourms
[11:02] <yigal> Flare183: I had an issue before with an early kernel that failed to load a usb flash drive but this was a while ago what version of the kernel are you using?
[11:04] <yigal> Flare183: uname -r
[11:04] <Flare183> yigal:> nope I can put my usb flash drive and it works fine
[11:04] <yigal> Flare183: what format did you partition your flash drive?
[11:04] <Flare183> vfat
[11:05] <Flare183> kernel: 2.6.17-11-386
[11:06] <Flare183> got that
[11:06] <Flare183> ?
[11:08] <yigal> Flare183: yes
[11:08] <lz1gjd> lz1gjd@Kubuntu610:~$ sudo su
[11:08] <lz1gjd> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 12 01:12:51 2007
[11:08] <lz1gjd> could any1 help me , it should be really simple
[11:10] <silence_> hello.......
[11:10] <yknott> turn off your time machine ;)
[11:10] <silence_> im new to kubuntu and i have a question
[11:10] <lz1gjd> yknott: :)
[11:10] <Yorokobi> lz1gjd, I have what you need, one sec
[11:11] <silence_> for some reason my desktop is distorted.......
[11:11] <silence_> its over to the left
[11:11] <yigal> Flare183:your music player should be /dev/sde1
[11:11] <Flare183> yigal:> how do you know?
[11:11] <yigal> Flare183: do you have this device in /dev/ ?
[11:12] <grgs> hello chanel
[11:12] <Yorokobi> lz1gjd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15128/
[11:12] <Flare183> yigal:> i have sda
[11:12] <yigal> Flare183: good
[11:12] <lz1gjd> Yorokobi: thanx
[11:12] <Flare183> yigal:> does that help
[11:12] <yigal> Flare183: when you type df, do you see /dev/sda[0-9]  being used?
[11:13] <Flare183> yigal:> nope
[11:13] <yigal> Flare183: then this is probably your device
[11:13] <yigal> Flare183: please type $ls /dev/sd*
[11:13] <yigal> Flare183: do you only have /dev/sda?
[11:14] <lz1gjd> only little prob happens when try to change date/time from the panel, says conversation with su failed
[11:14] <yigal> Flare183: are you there?
[11:15] <Flare183> yigal:> crap
[11:15] <Flare183> nothing there
[11:15] <Flare183> sda is not there
[11:15] <yigal> Flare183: its ok, I want you to pull out the usb cable of the mp3 player and put it back into the computer
[11:16] <jhutchins> yigal: df will not show unmounted devices.  fdisk -l will.
[11:16] <Yorokobi> lz1gjd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15129/
[11:16] <Flare183> just pull the cable out of both the computer and out of the mp3 player
[11:16] <yigal> Flare183: yes I want to know what was mounted not unmounted
[11:16] <Yorokobi> lz1gjd, try the Alternate option
[11:16] <moparisthebest> how do you find the UUID of a harddrive?
[11:17] <Flare183> yigal:> ok now what
[11:17] <yigal> Flare183: to find what your computer knows about type ls /dev/sd*
[11:17] <yigal> Flare183: anything?
[11:17] <Flare183> nope
[11:17] <Flare183> nothing
[11:17] <Flare183> want me to put in my flash drive?
[11:17] <jhutchins> moparisthebest: Really only useful if you are managing networked storage.
[11:18] <jhutchins> moparisthebest: Why do you need it?
[11:18] <yigal> Flare183: would hurt to check
[11:18] <cskj> #java
[11:18] <ssickle> Has anyone been having problems with xine on feisty lately?
[11:18] <moparisthebest> jhutchins, im mounting various devices with fstab, and the names change every boot depending on whether I have my usb devices plugged in
[11:18] <Flare183> yigal:> ok now i have sda1 and sda
[11:19] <ssickle> My installation keeps freezing up.
[11:19] <cskj> is there a channel that deals with java?
[11:19] <moparisthebest> mounting by uuid would fix that problem right?
[11:19] <moparisthebest> programming java cskj ? ##java
[11:19] <yigal> Flare183: so your box obviously recognizes the Flash but not your MP3 player
[11:19] <Flare183> yigal:> yep
[11:19] <jhutchins> moparisthebest: Hm.  Might, but I'm not sure how the system cross-references that.
[11:20] <lz1gjd> Yorokobi: thx and have a good night (day deppending on which side of the globe you are :)
[11:20] <yigal> Flare183: check out cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[11:20] <moparisthebest> it worked in grub for the boot drive jhutchins, but i dont know how to get the UUID of my other devices
[11:20] <Yorokobi> lz1gjd, you're welcome
[11:20] <yigal> Flare183: do you have anything in there?
[11:21] <cskj> ah no..java runtime environment jre moparisthebest
[11:21] <Flare183> yigal:> yep my flash drive
[11:21] <ssickle> the version says v0.99.5cvs on the AMD64 dist.
[11:21] <moparisthebest> oh, whats the problem with it cskj ?
[11:21] <yigal> Flare183: but do you have the MP3 player stuck in also?
[11:21] <jhutchins> moparisthebest: That really is quite a bright idea to solve a pretty universal problem, let me do some research on it.
[11:21] <cskj> well i installed jre 6
[11:21] <Black_Cat> anyone seen something like WinOrganizer for Kubuntu, except for Kontakt?
[11:21] <Flare183> yigal:> no
[11:21] <cskj> and i installed frostwire also
[11:21] <cskj> but frostwire just won't open
[11:21] <ninHero> hi all
[11:21] <cskj> i can't c what the problem is
[11:22] <yigal> Flare183: put the MP3 player into a usb slot and $cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[11:22] <jhutchins> moparisthebest: I know you can use volume labels in fstab
[11:22] <Flare183> with the flash drive still in there
[11:22] <yigal> Flare183: no eject the flash drive, pull out the flash and put in the MP3 player :)
[11:23] <moparisthebest> you can jhutchins ? that would work as well :)
[11:23] <moparisthebest> i found an article on it for redhat, but it doesnt seem to apply: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/sysadmin-guide/ch-devlabel.html
[11:23] <Flare183> yigal:> ok now what?
[11:24] <yigal> Flare183: is the MP3 player attached to the computer?
[11:24] <jhutchins> moparisthebest: sudo vol_id -u device
[11:24] <Flare183> yigal:> no
[11:24] <Flare183> yigal:> it is connected to the computer
[11:24] <yigal> Flare183: ok, now run cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[11:25] <Flare183> nothing
[11:25] <Flare183> yigal:> nothing
[11:25] <don_jr__> where can I set kwin?
[11:26] <yigal> Flare183: you don't have a printer or a cd player?
[11:26] <Flare183> yigal:> yeah
[11:26] <Flare183> yigal:> i have both
[11:26] <yigal> Flare183: are they internal?
[11:26] <jhutchins> moparisthebest: Unfortunately, I've hosed my usb system with a problem network adapter.
[11:26] <Flare183> just not connected
[11:26] <yigal> Flare183: is the cd internal
[11:26] <Flare183> cd rom drive is internal
[11:26] <Flare183> dvd as well
[11:27] <moparisthebest> ill give it a try and tell you how it works jhutchins :)
[11:27] <gemidjy_> anyone using Beryl with Aquamarine ?
[11:27] <yigal> Flare183: you No device that show up when you run cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[11:27] <Flare183> yigal:> scanner not connected, printer not connected
[11:28] <yigal> Flare183: but your cdrom should come up
[11:28] <Flare183> yigal:> no because it's not mounted i guess
[11:28] <Flare183> yigal:> neither of them are
[11:29] <yigal> it shouldn't have to be
[11:29] <yigal> Flare183: they shouldn't have to be mounted
[11:29] <liam> can anyone help me on libusb and libmtp installations
[11:29] <Flare183> yigal:> none of them come up
[11:29] <yigal> Flare183: I am sorry
[11:30] <liam> anyone?
[11:30] <Flare183> yigal:> what?
[11:30] <yigal> Flare183: I am sorry that I can't help you
[11:30] <liam> can no one help me
[11:30] <cskj> uhm... can i have some help installing java please?
[11:30] <Flare183> yigal:> it's alright i find the answer if god wants me too
[11:31] <yigal> :)
[11:31] <liam> then can anyone tell me where i can get help on the installation of these files
[11:31] <liam> please
[11:32] <frojnd> hello how can somemone connet using my desktop? I can see krfb... I create personal invitation and user connects on my IP only problem is how can I forward port for this? cause I have router and in krdf there isn't any port or is it: 192.168.2.11:0  "o"  ?
[11:32] <Flare183> liam:> umm what the probelm
[11:32] <liam> ok im trying to install libmtp
[11:32] <jhutchins> !java | liam
[11:32] <ubotu> liam: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:32] <liam> which im guessing id need libusb to
[11:32] <liam> i dont need java
[11:33] <Flare183> hold on
[11:33] <jhutchins> liam: aptitude install libmtp2
[11:33] <jhutchins> cskj: Please see last message from ubotu
[11:33] <jhutchins> liam: aptitude will install dependendencies for you.
[11:33] <Flare183> liam:> what!?
[11:34] <Flare183> yigal:> dude I think i just found my answer
[11:34] <liam> where do i find that "aptitude
[11:34] <liam> ive tried adept it didnt work
[11:34] <yigal> Flare183: awesome
[11:34] <Flare183> liam:> yeah hold on you got gdebi
[11:34] <liam> sorry flare
[11:34] <Flare183> liam:> yeah hold on you got gdebi
[11:34] <yigal> Flare183: if it works please tell me what you needed to do
[11:34] <Yorokobi> liam, in konsole: 'sudo apt-get install libmtp2'
[11:34] <Flare183> yigal:> I thing i might have
[11:34] <Flare183> mtp
[11:35] <Flare183> media transportation protocal
[11:35] <Flare183> libmtp2
[11:35] <Flare183> liam:> ok do this
[11:35] <yigal> Flare183: ahh, amarok should do it then
[11:35] <liam> it said it couldnt find the package
[11:35] <Flare183> sudo apt-get install libmtp2
[11:36] <liam> i tried that it said Couldnt find package libmtp2
[11:36] <liam> brb
[11:36] <yigal> liam: what repositories do you have
[11:36] <Flare183> sudo apt-get update
[11:36] <Flare183> sudo apt-get install libmtp2
[11:37] <liam> im not sure what my repos are
[11:37] <liam> if there the right ones
[11:38] <liam> running sudo apt-get update now
[11:39] <Flare183> yigal:> you think i might have to reboot for it to implament the libary
[11:39] <Flare183> yigal:> you think i might have to reboot for it to implament the library
[11:39] <liam> its taking its time
[11:39] <yigal> Flare183: unlikely, but by restarting it should work
[11:39] <liam> is this the same as fetching updates in adept
[11:40] <michielv> hi I have a question about 'hibernate computer'
[11:40] <Flare183> yigal:> yeah well this will give you the info we might need
[11:40] <Flare183> sorry wrong person
[11:40] <liam> ok now what do i do
[11:40] <Flare183> liam:> sudo apt-get install libmtp2
[11:41] <michielv> If I hibernate I lose my interface for my internet connection, how can I make this active again?
[11:41] <liam> it says couldnt find package libmtp2
[11:41] <yigal> liam: you need to add some repositories to your system to select files from
[11:41] <yigal> liam: do you have multiverse and universe repositories open
[11:41] <liam> when i ran the update it said some index files failed to down load
[11:42] <liam> yeah ive had this problem before and i was told my repos were fine
[11:42] <yigal> liam: then u should $sudo apt-get update, again
[11:42] <Flare183> which ones
[11:42] <liam> which ones?
[11:42] <Flare183> which index files
[11:42] <moparisthebest> it all works jhutchins, by label and by uuid :)
[11:42] <moparisthebest> thanks
[11:43] <liam> im doing it again just takes a while
[11:43] <liam> i have the tar.gz files for libmtp and libusb just couldn install them
[11:43] <Flare183> then compile them
[11:44] <liam> i tried that i uncompressed them opened a terminal there
[11:44] <liam> ran configure
[11:44] <liam> then make
[11:44] <liam> and then it brought an error up on install
[11:44] <pagan0ne> i just upgraded to feisty fawn beta, and was wondering where /dev/hdb moved to? i tried to mount my ntfs drive, and i dont see any hd* in /dev anymore....
[11:44] <Sanne> liam: libmtp2 is in universe (in edgy). You really should use packages from the repositories, if they're available.
[11:45] <liam> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Could not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (88.191.33.6), connection timed out
[11:45] <liam> thats what it says when i run sudo-apt update
[11:45] <Yorokobi> liam, packages.freecontrib.org has been offline for months.
[11:45] <Sanne> liam: that's not an official repository, and won't affect the installation of libmtp2. check if you have universe enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <michielv> If I hibernate I lose my interface for my internet connection, how can I make this active again?
[11:46] <Yorokobi> michielv, one way: open konsole and type 'sudo ifconfig up'
[11:47] <liam> ok sanne: i have the sources.list file open
[11:47] <liam> i dont know how to uncomment the required lines to make it universe
[11:47] <Yorokobi> michielv, another way in konsole, 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[11:47] <pagan0ne> can someone help me mount a ntfs drive in feisty fawn beta??
[11:47] <liam> i know that will sound stupid
[11:47] <michielv> ok Yorokobi I'll try this when I'm offline :)
[11:47] <Sanne> liam: paste it to paste.ubuntu-nl.org so we can have a look
[11:48] <Sanne> liam: it's not stupid, we all have been new to this sometimes :)
[11:49] <liam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15131/
[11:49] <liam> thats the url
[11:49] <Yorokobi> michielv, I would use the 2nd option first. Correction to the first: 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up' (if you're ethernet adapter is eth0)
[11:50] <michielv> it's a rausb0
[11:50] <liam> any idea
[11:50] <liam> *s
[11:50] <Yorokobi> sudo ifconfig rausb0 up then
[11:50] <Sanne> liam: seems you have it enabled, see lines 16, and 22 for multiverse. Maybe libmtp2 is not in dapper, let's check on packages.ubuntu.com.
[11:51] <gemidjy_> when I use KSnapshot to make screenshot of a screen region, I get some nasty line through the diagonal of the region square, here: http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/8823/shot1hr7.png
[11:52] <Sanne> liam: while you have it open, I would comment (put a "#" before) the lines 26 and 27, if those repositories are offline, like somebody said.
[11:52] <michielv> does somebody know if WPA will be fully supported in release 7.04 of Ubuntu?
[11:53] <Yorokobi> liam, here's a cleaner version of you sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15133/
[11:53] <liam> thanks but theres only 9 here, im a assuming the others were not needed
[11:54] <Yorokobi> liam, I consolidated the separate multiverse & universe lines to single lines and removed the deprecated freecontrib.org lines
[11:55] <liam> thanks
[11:56] <liam> yorokobi: i cant edit sources.list in kate, i know i need to be the super user
[11:56] <liam> how do i do that in konsole
[11:56] <Yorokobi> liam, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:57] <TheSpunkyLobster> hey all... i was getting help using gpart earlier to try and recover a lost partition on my laptop, i've finished a scan now, and need to try and mount the partition but can't remember how to do it
[11:58] <liam> thanks i need to know more basic command lines if you know of a good tut that would be cool
[12:00] <liam> okay with the new repos list i tried install libmtp2 and it still didnt work
[12:02] <mikey> what a pain in the arse
[12:02] <mikey> still no joy getting linux to talk to windows
[12:02] <Yorokobi> liam, it doesn't look like its in the dapper repos
[12:02] <liam> i tried that pacakages.ubuntu
[12:03] <liam> and found it
[12:03] <liam> it has three dependencies
[12:03] <Yorokobi> liam, for edgy or dapper?
[12:04] <Sanne> liam: I dodn't find libmtp2 for dapper on packages.ubuntu.com
[12:04] <liam> im sure im edgy
[12:04] <liam> how will i check
[12:04] <liam> i found it on edgy
[12:04] <evfreshman2025> Hey can someone help me out?
[12:04] <Yorokobi> liam, your sources.list is all dapper, not edgy
[12:04] <David> somebody here uses kmediafactory... when I try import .avi file... can't make the DVD, somebody here can help me...
[12:05] <Sanne> liam: your sources list said dapper... and also, type in terminal: cat /etc/lsb-release
[12:05] <liam> ok so does that mean i need to update before i can install it
[12:05] <liam> yeah sorry its dapper
[12:06] <liam> so where do i go from here
[12:07] <Yorokobi> liam, 1) figure out why the build failed and fix it or 2) upgrade to edgy
[12:08] <evfreshman2025> hey can someone answer this for me
[12:08] <Yorokobi> !ask | evfreshman2025
[12:08] <ubotu> evfreshman2025: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:08] <evfreshman2025> before i can install programs with Adept, do i have to install Adept updates if i have some?
[12:08] <liam> ok doesnt an upgrade mean re installing the whole iso
[12:09] <Yorokobi> liam, no, there are a couple ways to do it without a format/reinstall
[12:09] <liam> ok
[12:09] <liam> what would they be
[12:09] <Yorokobi> evfreshman2025, you can do both concurrently
[12:10] <shadowhywind> does anyone know where the kubuntu logo is located, the one from startup?
[12:10] <mikey> any way to change the clock format (24-hour --> standard)?
[12:11] <Yorokobi> mikey, right click the clock -> Date & Time format -> Time & Dates tab
[12:11] <Yorokobi> liam, one sec, I am checking the ubuntu wiki :)
[12:11] <liam> k
[12:11] <TheSpunkyLobster> hey all... i was getting help using gpart earlier to try and recover a lost partition on my laptop, i've finished a scan now, and need to try and specify and then mount the partition but can't remember how to do it
[12:12] <mikey> went there..didn't see how to change 15:12 hours to 3:12 PM
[12:12] <Yorokobi> liam, here's one way https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuUpgrade
[12:13] <Yorokobi> mikey, Time Format : pH:MM:SS AMPM
[12:13] <stevethepirate> cheers people
[12:13] <evfreshman2025> Is it true that before you can install anything, you first have to install updates that are needed? with Adept
[12:13] <liam> ok ill try this
[12:13] <liam> thanks
[12:13] <Yorokobi> evfreshman2025, no ... you can do both at the same time.