[12:17] <stgraber> hmm, I was going to ask for some more information anyway ...
[12:18] <zeth> Hi is there a launchpad admin in the house?
[12:18] <zeth> team, whatever you are called :-)
[12:20] <zeth> if one reads the scroll back then msg me if you have a min
[12:20] <zeth> cheers
[01:20] <micahcowan> Is it possible to search Malone for bugs which I've triaged and/or commented on, but to which I'm not subscribed?
[01:27] <Fujitsu> micahcowan: I'm 99% sure that's not currently possible.
[01:28] <micahcowan> :/
[01:28] <micahcowan> bummer. Thanks, Fujitsu.
[01:29] <Fujitsu> That would be nice, though.
[01:30] <ajmitch> the +relatedbugs page does show a bit more now, but I don't think it shows all you need
[01:31] <jml> Good morning Launchpadders.
[01:31] <ajmitch> morning jml 
[01:32] <ryanakca> 'night jml
[01:34] <micahcowan> ajmitch, yeah: I'm thinking about applying for Ubuntu membership in the relatively near future, and was hoping there was a way to show the bugs I'd triaged, but not subscribed to (basically, whatever +relatedbugs missed). But it looks like no.
[01:38] <ajmitch> I guess for some people it could be a few thousand bugs
[01:58] <i0null> how can you unsubscribe as an answer contact?
[02:03] <i0null> seems like a bug
[02:04] <Fujitsu> i0null: Nothing on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+support-contact?
[02:34] <chuckf> is anyone around that can answer a team page question?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> chuckf: im not expert but i can try
[02:37] <chuckf> thanks
[02:38] <chuckf> I'm an admin for a loco team, and my team got joined to another by the other's moderator
[02:38] <chuckf> is there a way for me to unjoin that group?
[02:38] <gnomefreak> should be if you are in the members list
[02:38] <chuckf> the other admin has not replied to an email from two days ago
[02:38] <gnomefreak> there should be option on top left to leave team
[02:40] <chuckf> well the problem is that the group that I started was joined to the team. 
[02:40] <chuckf> so I guess the question would be is there a way for me to log into launchpad as my team?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> not sure but some how i doubt it. would wait for someone else to answer that before giving up
[02:41] <chuckf> well thanks for listening anyway
[02:41] <gnomefreak> yw sorry not more help
[02:42] <chuckf> at least I now know that my thinking was right that there's not an obvious way to do it that I'm missing
[04:50] <tj9991> I thought I read when you upload your first template and it is accepted, the rest you upload won't need review
[04:50] <tj9991> however the second template I uploaded is in the queue with the status "Needs review"
[04:58] <jamesh> tj9991: is it an update to the previous template, or a new template?
[04:59] <tj9991> an update;  I selected the topmost radio button when uploading it, was that the correct choice?
[05:00] <mpt> Goooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[05:03] <tj9991> I'm thinking of the other upload, on this upload I didn't have any radio buttons to choose from
[05:03] <tj9991> "Upload a new version of Template "trevorchan" in Trevorchan trunk" is the header on the page which I uploaded from
[05:14] <tj9991> also, why do templates need to be reviewed?  I'm the owner of the project, howcome a template I submit has to be checked over?
[06:13] <tj9991> nobody around with answers?
[06:15] <mpt> tj9991, for Translations questions you should ask carlos, danilos, or jtv
[06:15] <mpt> danilos, are you available?
[06:26] <tj9991> can anyone do a quick import on the pot file I have in the queue?  I need it to be on there before I post the link on the project to help translate
[06:57] <mpt> poolie, you are now correctly spelled
[08:00] <danilos> tj9991: template needs to be approved only the first time; after that, it's auto-approved but only after import process is run again (and sometimes, import process is running for a long time so it takes some time to get to auto-approval part again)
[08:02] <bhavi_bond> HOw to author a branch in launchpad?
[08:02] <spiv> bhavi_bond: https://help.launchpad.net/BzrHowto has a quick summary
[08:11] <bhavi_bond> bzr: ERROR: extra argument to command whoami: BhavaniShankar <right2bhavi@gmail.com>
[08:11] <bhavi_bond> help!!!!!!!!
[08:11] <spiv> bhavi_bond: you probably are missing quote marks (").
[08:12] <spiv> bzr whoami "BhavaniShankar <right2bhavi@gmail.com>"
[08:12] <bhavi_bond> bzr whoami "Bhavani Shankar<right2bhavi@gmail.com>"
[08:13] <bhavi_bond>  bzr whoami "BhavaniShankar <right2bhavi@gmail.com>"
[08:13] <bhavi_bond> bzr: ERROR: extra argument to command whoami: BhavaniShankar <right2bhavi@gmail.com>
[08:14] <bhavi_bond> Now
[08:15] <spiv> bhavi_bond: what version of bzr?
[08:15] <bhavi_bond> Dont Know
[08:16] <jml> bhavi_bond: what is the first line in the output from 'bzr version'?
[08:17] <bhavi_bond>  0.8.2
[08:17] <spiv> bhavi_bond: ok, the problem is your version of bzr is too old.
[08:18] <bhavi_bond> How to update?
[08:19] <spiv> I'm guessing you have dapper?
[08:20] <spiv> If so, you need to add "deb http://bazaar-vcs.org/releases/debs/dapper ./" to your apt sources.list.
[08:20] <spiv> I can walk you through doing that with Synaptic if you need.
[08:22] <bhavi_bond> Na not required..:))))) Thanks for the repo..
[08:23] <bhavi_bond> yes.. I am on dapper
[08:23] <spiv> Not a problem.  Let us know if you have any other problems.
[08:24] <bhavi_bond> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:24] <bhavi_bond> My pleasure..
[08:24] <nrg88> greets
[08:24] <nrg88> today i stumbled upon reportbug-ng
[08:24] <nrg88> anyone know it?
[08:25] <nrg88> http://reportbug-ng.alioth.debian.org/
[08:26] <nrg88> wouldn't it be great to get it working with apport and launchpad?
[08:29] <jamesh> nrg88: what aspects of it do you think are useful?
[08:30] <nrg88> fast and easy bugmanagement from your local computer
[08:30] <nrg88> apport only fills a new bugreport on launchpad
[08:31] <nrg88> as i know
[08:31] <jamesh> how does it differ from a web based app?
[08:31] <jamesh> (other than not being a web based app?)
[08:31] <nrg88> it's local, that's all
[08:31] <nrg88> the reportbug-ng?
[08:31] <nrg88> it's a local app
[08:31] <nrg88> using qt3
[08:31] <jamesh> so it has a local copy of the bug database?
[08:32] <nrg88> it must have, i don't really know, that's why i asked you guys if anyone know this app
[08:33] <nrg88> but having a local copy of the database isn't a good thing, because sometimes bug status can change in minutes
[08:33] <nrg88> or seconds
[08:33] <nrg88> hm... :|
[08:33] <jamesh> okay.  Looks like it downloads and parses the bug listing pages from bugs.debian.org
[08:34] <jamesh> So it offers only limited disconnected usage
[08:34] <nrg88> yes, currently it's made for debian
[08:34] <RAOF> From what I saw of the screencast on the homepage, the only thing it brings to launchpad is filter-as-you-type in the bug search.
[08:34] <jamesh> it'd be possible to adjust it to scrape an LP bug listing
[08:36] <jamesh> nrg88: it looks like a simple Python app, so it'd likely only take a few hours to get it to work with LP
[08:36] <jamesh> if you want to see what its like
[08:37] <nrg88> i think only the database parameters need to be changed in order to start listing the LP bugs
[08:37] <jamesh> nrg88: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/reportbug-ng/src/lib/DebianBTS.py?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 <- that's the code you'd want to change
[08:37] <nrg88> i don't know python
[08:37] <jamesh> this'd be a good excuse to learn then :)
[08:38] <nrg88> yep :)
[08:39] <nrg88> this is only the code used for reporting a bug i think
[08:39] <nrg88> hm
[08:39] <nrg88> no :D
[08:39] <nrg88> i see
[08:39] <jamesh> getBugsByPackage() looks like it is designed to grab the bugs for a package ...
[08:40] <nrg88> and it uses the cgi-bin
[08:40] <jamesh> well, it uses the debbugs URLs, yes.
[08:41] <jamesh> if you wanted to make it work with Launchpad, you'd want it to go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/$PACKAGE/+bugs
[08:41] <jamesh> the LP bug listings are paged too though, so you'd need to request multiple pages
[08:41] <jml> spiv: you available for a short call?
[08:42] <nrg88> that would be slow, and a waste of bandwidth
[08:42] <jamesh> huh?
[08:42] <nrg88> to request those pages
[08:43] <nrg88> they have a lot of html code which are not needed in our case
[08:43] <jamesh> it is the same thing the reportbug-ng program is doing
[08:43] <spiv> jml: yep, just a sec
[08:43] <bhavi_bond> bhavi@bhavi-desktop:/media/D/linuxmobile$ sudo bzr init
[08:44] <jamesh> nrg88: a page like "http://bugs.debian.org/gnome-gpg" contains extra HTML that you don't need, and that's what reportbug-ng is downloading
[08:44] <bhavi_bond> bzr: ERROR: File exists: u'/media/D/linuxmobile/.bzr': [Errno 17]  File exists: '/media/D/linuxmobile/.bzr'
[08:44] <bhavi_bond> Help
[08:44] <carlos> morning
[08:44] <jamesh> bhavi_bond: try asking on #bzr
[08:45] <nrg88> yeah, but a page in launchpad has way lot of html code compared to debian
[08:45] <spiv> jml: I'm skyped up
[08:46] <spiv> jml: and Daft Punk is paused
[08:46] <nrg88> that's because bugs.debian is not as fancy as our lauchpad :)
[08:46] <nrg88> a debian bugreport page has about 31 extra lines
[08:47] <nrg88> a launchpad one has several hundred
[08:47] <jamesh> nrg88: that's not a big problem when you're prototyping though, is it?
[08:47] <nrg88> no, it's not :)
[08:48] <tj9991> other than pootle and kartouche, are there any other scripts which let users translate po files collaborately?
[08:48] <tj9991> I can't find any, at least not without really digging
[08:49] <jamesh> tj9991: rosetta?
[08:49] <tj9991> is rosetta web based?
[08:50] <jamesh> yep.  https://translations.launchpad.net/
[08:50] <tj9991> I meant something without the 15+ hour import wait
[08:50] <tj9991> I want something I can install on my server
[08:54] <jamesh> tj9991: carlos can probably give a better answer about the import
[08:55] <carlos> tj9991: the import queue is quite busy right now. In normal circumstances, the imports don't take more than 10-15 minutes
[08:55] <carlos> tj9991: and we are working on improve the queue priorities so projects don't block each others with big imports
[08:56] <carlos> tj9991: about whether it's web based, yes, it's a web service, you cannot install it in your server
[08:57] <jamesh> nrg88: w.r.t. other LP URLs you could use, there is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/$PACKAGE/+bugs-text, which will give you a list of the associated bug numbers
[08:58] <jamesh> nrg88: and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/NNNN/+text that gives a text summary
[08:58] <nrg88> thanks
[08:58] <jamesh> nrg88: although it is probably quicker to scrape the HTML bug listings if the required information is found there.
[08:59] <jamesh> since it'll involve less round trips
[08:59] <nrg88> bbl
[09:09] <nrg88> "sabdfl has left this server (Read error: 113 (No route to host))" was this mark shuttleworth? :D
[09:09] <lifeless> yes
[09:13] <nrg88> jamesh: the readme sais i need python-tools to compile ui files to py
[09:13] <nrg88> what's the name of the ubuntu version of python-tools?
[09:14] <nrg88> i can't find it :|
[09:15] <jamesh> nrg88: I don't know.
[09:18] <nrg88> any ideas how to convert the ui files to py ?
[09:19] <jamesh> I don't have much experience with Qt, sorry.
[09:19] <nrg88> me either
[09:19] <nrg88> that's the problem :D
[09:20] <jamesh> nrg88: perhaps the docs mean pyqt4-dev-tools or pyqt-tools
[09:20] <jamesh> (just did a quick search with apt-cache)
[09:21] <nrg88> pyqt-tools, it must be this one, thanks
[09:22] <tj9991> hm, alright
[09:39] <nrg88> jamesh: i've managed to start it, but it's slow :|
[09:41] <nrg88> and it does not strip the html code when displaying the bug info
[09:42] <nrg88> only from img tags ;)
[09:42] <jamesh> nrg88: you might want to look at the BeautifulSoup package to help with the parsing
[09:43] <jamesh> python-beautifulsoup
[09:43] <jamesh> it makes screen scraping a lot easier
[09:48] <nrg88> jamesh: sorry for my limited knolege... but how can i download the reportbug-ng branch from the debian svn server?
[09:48] <nrg88> :D
[09:49] <nrg88> it looks like i've got the initial release of reportbug-ng...
[09:49] <jamesh> nrg88: "svn checkout svn://svn.debian.org/reportbug-ng" looks like it'd do it
[09:50] <jamesh> checking out the base of the repo looks correct here, since they haven't followed the normal conventions
[09:52] <nrg88> thanks again :)
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #105401 in malone "need tests to make enumerations in bug-export.rnc schema match the rest of launchpad" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105401
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #105426 in launchpad "Portlet expand arrow always points down" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105426
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #105430 in launchpad "can't list self-subscribe bugs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105430
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #105398 in launchpad "Renumber/Redate history records for WACS" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105398
[12:11] <jenda> cprov salgado matsubara kiko flacoste jtv carlos danilo SteveA BjornT mthaddon stub jamesh spiv ddaa mpt statik bac barry thumper - You are now all cloak'd Canonical/launchpad folks.
[12:11] <jenda> kiko: and sinzui and bigjools are not, as those nicks aren't registered.
[12:12] <carlos> wow, thanks!
[12:12] <jenda> bigjools: sinzui: you should register them nicks.
[12:12] <carlos> will that give me extra live points?
[12:12] <jenda> :)
[12:12] <carlos> :-P
[12:12] <jenda> carlos: totally. You're now invincible.
[12:12] <carlos> amazing!!!
[12:12] <jenda> (God mode initiated)
[12:12] <carlos> ;-)
[12:13] <jamesh> now people will know to ask you questions :)
[12:13] <jenda> look at 'im :)
[12:13] <Fujitsu> That looks reeeeally strange now.
[12:13] <Rinchen> jenda, thanks for taking care of our team
[12:13] <carlos> jamesh: even more people?
[12:13] <bigjools> jenda, I'll register, thanks :)
[12:14] <jenda> Rinchen: anytime :)
[12:14] <carlos> ok, now is time to open my bot shop to sell karma using my new irc mask  ;-)
[12:14] <jenda> hehehe
[12:15] <statik> jenda: thanks
[12:15] <jenda> you're welcome :)
[12:15] <bac> jenda: thanks for the cloak
[12:16] <jenda> it's kiko's fault really ;)
[12:17] <statik> this fits in really well with the CCTV and RFID tag I'm wearing here in London this week ;
[12:17] <statik> ;)
[12:18] <jenda> hehe
[12:19] <jenda> if you have any complaints about the cloaks, I'll be happy to fix them - I might need approval from kiko for some actions, though.
[12:20] <jenda> bigjools: you're set too
[12:20] <bigjools> jenda: top, thanks
[12:20] <jenda> bigjools: I'd recommend setting an email addy in case you forget your password.
[12:20] <bigjools> that's in process right now :)
[12:20] <jenda> :)
[12:21] <bigjools> aaand done
[12:23] <jenda> bigjools: you gotta tell your client to identify on join
[12:23] <jenda> 12:23 -!- bigjools [n=ed@canonical/launchpad/bigjools]  has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 
[12:23] <jenda> 12:23 -!- bigjools [n=ed@82-71-93-254.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk]  has joined #launchpad
[12:24] <bigjools> jenda, just setting that up too :)
[12:24] <Spads> bigjools: most of the time you can put your nickserv password in as the freenode server password, and the server will pass it along to nickserv
[12:24] <bigjools> spads: thanks
[12:24] <Spads> that handles surprise reconnects quietly and gracefully
[12:25] <bigjools> as you can see, I am an IRC guru
[12:25] <jenda> Spads++
[12:26] <Spads> jenda: oftc is the only network I've found that doesn't support this behavior.  It's saved me lots of window-closing from chatty nickserv scripts
[12:26] <bigjools> hurrah
[12:27] <jenda> bigjools: now the next step is to switch to irssi in a remote shell...
[12:27] <bigjools> jenda, can you say that in English please? :)
[12:27] <jenda> :)
[12:28] <jenda> It was something along the lines of "Perhaps you should stick to Konversation for now"
[12:28] <jenda> (says me, who has been using xchat till about a month ago :))
[12:29] <bigjools> the only thing I miss from xchat is the nice red line across the channel if you tab away and back again
[12:32] <jenda> I think I have a script that adds it to irssi (although it's a ---- line)
[12:32] <Kmos> jenda: i use it already
[12:32] <Kmos> hehe
[01:19] <ddaa> Hello there.
[01:19] <jenda> oi, ddaa - you are cloaked too. :)
[01:20] <ddaa> Sorry I wasn't online yesterday. ADSL is out at home.
[01:20] <ddaa> jenda: beg your pardon?
[01:20] <jenda> ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa]  has joined #launchpad
[01:20] <ddaa> oh, cool!
[01:20] <jenda> 
[01:40] <Kmos> gaim in fesity will be renamed to pigdin ?
[01:40] <Kmos> *feisty
[01:41] <Fujitsu> Kmos: This is the wrong channel, but no, it won't be.
[01:42] <ddaa> next time somebody asks about ubuntu or feisty here, I might just say "whut? Never heard of buntu"
[01:43] <Kmos> :))
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #37994 in rosetta "Centre/Left column overlap in IE6. CSS-y. Screenshot" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/37994
[01:47] <ubotu> New bug: #5169 in rosetta "Improvements on translation-subscriptions spec" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5169
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #3617 in rosetta "Feature Request: go to "Programs you can translate" page by one click" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3617
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #47302 in rosetta "Some strings becomes "fuzzy" some time after translation (dup-of: 102382)" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/47302
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #105533 in launchpad "Support tracker needs upload attachment" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105533
[04:01] <BjornT> time for this week's non-au reviewer meeting
[04:01] <BjornT> == Agenda ==
[04:01] <BjornT> * Roll call * Next meeting * Queue status.
[04:02] <BjornT> who's here?
[04:02] <flacoste> me
[04:02] <BjornT> salgado: ping
[04:02] <salgado> me
[04:03] <weiers> I think I made a mess on my first attempt of triaging a bug. I marked bug #99064 as a duplicate of bug #50559. They are strictly speaking the same bug, but the one was reported as a problem with a HP 1020 printer while the other was reported as a problem with HP 1018. How can I fix this?
[04:03] <BjornT> == Next meeting ==
[04:03] <ubotu> Malone bug 99064 in foo2zjs "foo2zjs does not work with  HP LaserJet 1018 (dup-of: 50559)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99064 - Assigned to Pascal De Vuyst (pascal-devuyst)
[04:03] <ubotu> Malone bug 50559 in foo2zjs "hp laserjet 1020 doesn't work" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/50559
[04:03] <BjornT> next meeting will be 2007-04-18 at 1400 UTC
[04:05] <BjornT> == Queue status ==
[04:05] <BjornT> There are 7 open reviews, 5 over the 2 day service target. Easter holidays probably contributed that some branches haven't been reviewed already.
[04:05] <BjornT> salgado: you have one branch in your queue that's a bit old.
[04:06] <salgado> yeah, I'll review it today
[04:06] <BjornT> cool
[04:06] <salgado> I think I already reviewed it but it needs a second round
[04:06] <matsubara> weiers: using the same form, leave the duplicate entry empty and click change.
[04:06] <BjornT> == Other business ==
[04:07] <BjornT> flacoste: how's it going with the doctest style guide?
[04:07] <flacoste> BjornT: i started it yesterday, should have something for others to check later today
[04:07] <weiers> aha, thanks matsubara, it worked. I'll do a little bit more thinking before I try again :-)
[04:07] <flacoste> i also saw that there are a few wiki pages that needs updating
[04:08] <flacoste> PageTests, LaunchpadHackingFAQ, SystemDocOrPageTests (or something like that)
[04:09] <BjornT> flacoste: ok, cool.
[04:10] <BjornT> that should be all, meeting ended.
[04:11] <flacoste> thanks BjornT
[04:11] <salgado> thanks BjornT 
[04:34] <kiko> hey jenda 
[04:35] <kiko> flacoste and BjornT, did your cloaks get set up?
[04:36] <flacoste> kiko: cloaks? what's that?
[04:37] <kiko> flacoste, it's a freenode thing.
[04:37] <flacoste> kiko: ah ok, and what is it used for? and how should I know if it was set up?
[04:38] <kiko> you see that my user has a /launchpad thing on it?
[04:38] <kiko> and yours doesn't?
[04:38] <BjornT> kiko: afaics, yes, can't you see it?
[04:39] <kiko> BjornT, flacoste: it's set up, my xchat is bustage
[04:39] <flacoste> kiko: whois flacoste shows n=francis@canonical/launchpad/flacoste
[04:43] <jamesh> xchat knows that a person's hostname can't change while they stay connected
[04:59] <jamesh> ubuntu is making Launchpad slow :(
[04:59] <kiko> jamesh?
[05:00] <jamesh> kiko: it feels slower, and the pending Ubuntu release seems a likely candidate for saturating the datacentre bandwidth
[05:02] <ddaa> yeah I find launchpad slow today too
[05:02] <jenda> kiko: yo
[05:02] <kiko> yo jenda 
[05:02] <jenda> kiko: flacoste and BjornT are set
[05:02] <kiko> wanted to thank you for doing the work there
[05:03] <kiko> much appreciated
[05:03] <jenda> anytime :)
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #105570 in launchpad-bazaar ""Launchpad could not mirror this branch" error overwhelms the branch page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105570
[05:16] <jenda> kiko: what about the other canonical folks?
[05:33] <dpm> carlos: many thanks for your e-mail regarding the problem importing the jokosher translation. I'll try the workaround later.
[05:35] <dpm> I've made a mistake. I took gnome-mount from the gnome translation project and imported it into Rosetta. So far so good.
[05:36] <dpm> The problem is, I uploaded the .po file as a "User upload" instead of "Published upload", which if I understand correctly, means that any upstream corrections in any of the imported translations will not replace the Rosetta ones on, let's say gnome 2.19.
[05:36] <dpm> Is that right, and if so, is there a way I can change the "status" of the "user uploaded" translations to "published upload", or will I have from now on manually import all changes from upstream?
[05:37] <kiko> jenda, you wanna set them up as well?
[05:37] <jenda> I'd love to, but I need you to order me to :)
[05:40] <kiko> jenda, problem is rounding up everybody in teams.
[05:42] <jenda> kiko: indeed...
[05:42] <jenda> kiko: but I'm sure the support team could be identified...?
[05:42] <jenda> and perhaps the rest would be canonical/nick?
[05:43] <kiko> jenda, yeah, we could do that.
[05:43] <Spads> ah, that would be nice
[05:44] <kiko> Spads, can you tell me the nicks of all the sysadmin team? I can pass that on to jenda to register
[05:46] <Ng> ehh
[05:46] <Ng> are we talking about freenode cloaks here?
[05:47] <kiko> yes
[05:47] <Ng> are they per-channel? there are other freenode channels I don't want to appear as representing canonical ;)
[05:48] <jenda> Ng: they are pan-network
[05:48] <Ng> in that case I am going to need to run a second irssi :/
[05:48] <kiko> jeeesus
[05:48] <jenda> Ng: can't irssi connect as two different identities?
[05:49] <jenda> I'm quite sure it can.
[05:50] <Ng> jenda: I'd been considering it anyway because of requests that we show our names in /whois - I didn't think irssi could do multiple sets of that
[05:50] <Ng> but if it can then WIN :)
[05:50] <Spads> Ng: I have different per-server realnames
[05:51] <Spads> for example, here I go by my given name of "Lex"
[05:52] <Ng> Spads: ah cool.
[05:52] <Ng> of course I'm going to have nick issues, but whatever ;)
[05:53] <jenda> Ng: :)
[05:56] <Ng> jenda: so yeah, feel free to go ahead and ruin my irc hostname ;)
[05:58] <jenda> Ng: and what will it be?
[05:58] <jenda> kiko?
[05:58] <jenda> mrevell: cloak'd
[05:58] <mrevell> jenda: you've cloaked me?
[05:58] <kiko> yes jenda?
[05:58] <jenda> yeppers
[05:58] <mrevell> jenda: wooh, right, okay, ta :)
[05:58] <jenda> kiko: what cloak shall Ng get?
[05:58] <jenda> mrevell: np :)
[05:59] <Ng>  /sysadmin/ I guess :)
[05:59] <Spads> I'm happy with sysadmin
[05:59] <carlos> dpm: just upload it again as published
[05:59] <carlos> dpm: and it will be fixed
[06:06] <jenda> Ng: elmo tells me you don't want it, so I'll switch it off, ok?
[06:08] <Ng> jenda: I would certainly prefer not to have it, thanks
[06:09] <jenda> ok
[06:09] <Ng> sorry for the confusion, I thought this was being mandated and so grudgingly agreed
[06:09] <jenda> no problem on my side
[06:12] <jenda> Znarl, Spads - I've been told to switch your cloaks back off - but I didn't look what they were before (or, rather, don't remember). Would you like no-cloak, unaffiliated or some other group cloaks?
[06:13] <Spads> jenda: if you have a generic unaffiliated cloak, I would appreciate that greatly
[06:13] <jenda> done
[06:13] <Spads> many thanks
[06:13] <jenda> np
[06:14] <jenda> I'm sorry for the confusion - I might've been a little too quick on the trigger.
[06:14] <Ng> fwiw, #canonical-sysadmin is probably a good place for such things to be raised
[06:14] <Spads> jenda: I think many of us were.  No harm done in the end, and this unaffiliated is an improvement on what I had before.
[06:15] <jenda> :)
[06:21] <dpm> carlos: oh ok, good to know. Thanks again.
[06:22] <Znarl> jenda : No cloak for me, thanks.
[06:23] <jenda> Znarl: not even unaffiliated/znarl?
[06:23] <Znarl> jenda : None, I'm proud of my hostname.
[06:24] <jenda> OK :)
[06:24] <jenda> Znarl: sorry for the trouble
[06:24] <jenda> nice hostname ;)
[06:24] <Znarl> jenda : No problem.
[06:29] <salgado> cprov, tem futebol hoje no salesianos heim! 18:45
[06:30] <cprov> salgado: great ! I'll be there.
[07:35] <Kmos> http://www.tux500.com -> funny
[10:08] <piedoggie> launchpad seems *really* slow today.  is it me or launchpad?
[10:08] <kiko> I'm not sure, but DNS is really slow for us here
[10:09] <piedoggie> comcast has a router with 70+ percent packet loss between me and the world
[10:09] <crimsun> there are probably quite a few people rsyncing RC-candidate ISOs
[10:10] <crimsun> that doesn't explain such a massive slowdown, though
[10:10] <piedoggie> maybe it does
[10:11] <piedoggie> for a grin mtr to harvee.org
[10:11] <piedoggie> look at the losses on 68.86.90.69
[10:12] <LarstiQ> piedoggie: ouch, that's nearly 50%
[10:12] <piedoggie> although I need to figure whi my firewall has 3-10%loss
[10:12] <piedoggie> probably a flakey isa card from the bottom of the dustbin
[10:14] <piedoggie> I need to walk away from the kbd for 40 min.  my s/r headset needs to recharge.  hands are a burning
[11:13] <elakug> hey. is anybody else experiencing HUGE lag times on launchpad, particularly bugs.launchpad? i can ping it fine, but pages take forever to load.
[11:15] <crimsun> yes, many (if not all) of us are.
[11:16] <elakug> who hosts the server? can we contact them?
[11:36] <Kmos> elakug: #canonical-sysadmin
[11:36] <elakug> thanks
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #105690 in soyuz "Developers should be able to view binary publishing history" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105690