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| asac | gnomefreak: sorry hat to go ... cu tomorrow. night. | 01:56 |
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| gnomefreak | night | 01:56 |
| gnomefreak | ok they are uploaded checking to see if its safe ;) | 01:59 |
| gnomefreak | asac: might have taken better part of today because of the stupidity of me :( but its all built and uploaded good night | 02:13 |
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| asac | gnomefreak: i try your archive in a minute | 10:03 |
| asac | gnomefreak: appears to upgrade like a charm. Well done | 10:06 |
| asac | next i have to setup (auto) builds of your sources on amd64 here | 10:07 |
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| gnomefreak | it fails im gonna rebuild again today. the debian branding is still there | 11:49 |
| asac | yep | 11:50 |
| asac | i saw that | 11:50 |
| asac | apparently the source tarball was not properly patches everywhere | 11:50 |
| gnomefreak | after new source should i have unpacked new source :( | 11:51 |
| asac | yeah :) | 11:51 |
| gnomefreak | ^^^ thinks i missed that step | 11:51 |
| gnomefreak | as soon as i think of a nice changelog entry (not like *screwed up bad redoing*) | 11:52 |
| asac | why not :) | 11:55 |
| asac | its just mt2 | 11:55 |
| asac | or mt3 :) | 11:55 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 11:56 |
| asac | name it "fixed branding for real :)" | 11:56 |
| asac | or even better: | 11:56 |
| asac | * fixed branding for real - maybe ;) | 11:56 |
| gnomefreak | i was thinking something like that | 11:56 |
| asac | yeah ... just be a poet | 11:56 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 11:56 |
| asac | after you did that right once you won't need to upload new orig.tar.gz for every change | 11:56 |
| asac | its just unfortunate that this change requires orig.tar.gz change | 11:57 |
| asac | usually its not done that way | 11:57 |
| asac | so sorry for the bandwidth consumed uploading stuff | 11:57 |
| gnomefreak | the orig.tar.gz has the changes already so i change the changelog make sure remove.nonfree is still right and build it | 11:58 |
| === gnomefreak might look for something else to change to help make it look like it wasnt all for not | ||
| asac | ? | 11:58 |
| asac | the orig.tar.gz is generated *after* remove.nonfree is run | 11:59 |
| gnomefreak | like replacing maintainers feisld from (long list of debian devels to you | 11:59 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yes it was but i never unpacked orig i used what was already unpacked | 11:59 |
| asac | hmmm | 11:59 |
| asac | the point is | 12:00 |
| asac | that orig.tar.gz is generated from unpacked sources | 12:00 |
| gnomefreak | right | 12:00 |
| asac | if you didn't build orig.tar.gz in a different location ... then i don't think its like you say | 12:00 |
| asac | otherwise... might be | 12:00 |
| asac | :) | 12:00 |
| asac | just test I guess :) | 12:00 |
| gnomefreak | i rebuilt orig.tar.gz than went back into source dir and changed changelog (instead of getting rid of the source dir and unpacking orig.tar.gz and changing it | 12:01 |
| asac | ok | 12:02 |
| asac | try :) | 12:02 |
| gnomefreak | i am :) | 12:02 |
| === gnomefreak needs more coffee | ||
| asac | me too ... but mine is empty | 12:03 |
| asac | :) | 12:03 |
| asac | got to go and buy some | 12:03 |
| gnomefreak | mine brewing | 12:03 |
| asac | so probably early lunch today | 12:03 |
| gnomefreak | i dont blame you | 12:03 |
| gnomefreak | to me coffee is more important than firefox ;) | 12:04 |
| asac | i hope not ... i am already suffering enough from this coffee shortage | 12:04 |
| === gnomefreak has to go out after i get this started to get something to eat so i can take the new medicine | ||
| asac | yeah ... go :) | 12:05 |
| gnomefreak | hopefully ill have this fixed early today | 12:06 |
| gnomefreak | leave in about 30 minutes or so | 12:06 |
| gnomefreak | oh have you heard of when a fix for enigmail for iceape will be fixed assuing its an iceape issue | 12:08 |
| asac | ? | 12:09 |
| gnomefreak | i just got email about it :) | 12:09 |
| asac | you read mail on mozilla mainatiners? | 12:09 |
| asac | yeah | 12:09 |
| asac | the .xpi should be usable for us as well | 12:09 |
| asac | until i come around package things up | 12:09 |
| gnomefreak | not sure if that will help us | 12:10 |
| gnomefreak | it doesnt crash on 1.1.1 it cant be installed | 12:10 |
| gnomefreak | will test | 12:11 |
| asac | ah right | 12:14 |
| asac | might be the case very well | 12:14 |
| gnomefreak | iceape needs a tools>extension menu entry like thunderbirds so we can install downloaded .xpis | 12:17 |
| gnomefreak | im gonna assume that would be a patch and not so easy to do :( | 12:21 |
| asac | yeah | 12:22 |
| asac | seamonkey neeeds extension manaager | 12:22 |
| asac | which it hasn't yet | 12:22 |
| gnomefreak | thats up to them to add? | 12:23 |
| gnomefreak | i will look in compile options but i dont think its that easy | 12:23 |
| asac | its needs code | 12:24 |
| asac | its not implemented | 12:24 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 12:24 |
| asac | seamonkey still has the rotten old extension mechanism from mozilla suite days | 12:24 |
| gnomefreak | how do we request it? | 12:25 |
| asac | we don't need to | 12:25 |
| gnomefreak | cool:) | 12:25 |
| asac | they know about it and probably lack resources to do it | 12:25 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 12:25 |
| asac | its on there todo list | 12:26 |
| asac | and of course they know that its important :) | 12:26 |
| === gnomefreak hopes they fix it before feisty+1. IMO its a showstopper | ||
| gnomefreak | i can just see the bugs fly on cant add extensions to iceape-mail | 12:31 |
| asac | ok ... out for coffee lunch et al | 12:40 |
| gnomefreak | ok see you. im out also | 12:41 |
| === asac installing vmware 6 beta | ||
| asac | old one broke with feisty upgrade -> no RC testing ;) | 02:14 |
| gnomefreak | vmware broke in feisty? | 02:16 |
| gnomefreak | is that what people have been ranting about for a few weeks now? | 02:17 |
| asac | no idea ;) | 02:17 |
| gnomefreak | ive seen alot of how do you do this it doesnt work crap with i believe vmware-player (if that is the one in repos) | 02:18 |
| asac | you need 6beta ... current stable (5.5) doesn't work :) | 02:18 |
| asac | hmmm | 02:18 |
| asac | interesting | 02:18 |
| asac | which version is there? | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | not sure what name is it? player or server | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | Candidate: 1.0.2-2 | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | for player | 02:19 |
| asac | hmm | 02:19 |
| asac | no idea what that version means | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | thats the only package i see for vmware | 02:19 |
| asac | i had 5.5.5 | 02:19 |
| asac | now its 6 beta | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | asac: maybe vmware-server from site? | 02:20 |
| gnomefreak | try apt-cache policy vmware-server? | 02:20 |
| gnomefreak | im asking joejaxx because i remember him saying it was broken | 02:21 |
| gnomefreak | but hes not around i dont htink | 02:21 |
| asac | damn all my previous vmware images are not recognized anymore | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | that means starting over? | 02:22 |
| asac | what shitty tech is this? | 02:22 |
| asac | no :) | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | oh ok good | 02:23 |
| asac | it means i have to figure out which files i have to delete | 02:23 |
| asac | because they use multiple gig of space | 02:23 |
| asac | and now they are not used anymore :) | 02:23 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 02:26 |
| asac | ok feisty install boots up :) | 02:28 |
| asac | crazy thing is that sound really works ... even though live cd boots in vmware | 02:28 |
| gnomefreak | sound should work shouldnt it? | 02:31 |
| asac | it does :) | 02:33 |
| asac | just find it exciting that it does within | 02:33 |
| asac | vmware | 02:33 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 02:37 |
| AlexLatchford | http://www.phpbbdoctor.com/temp/network.jpg | 02:40 |
| AlexLatchford | lol, a friend of mine drew his network diagram | 02:40 |
| AlexLatchford | note the addition to the 16 port switch | 02:40 |
| gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: i would hate to see his eletric bill :( | 02:42 |
| AlexLatchford | lol | 02:43 |
| AlexLatchford | lets see if #css is as useless as #apache | 02:43 |
| gnomefreak | it is ;) but thats just what i have heard. i know neither all that well | 02:44 |
| AlexLatchford | yeah #apache is just a pointless channel, may as well just message the damn bot on its own they use it so much | 02:44 |
| gnomefreak | i kind of like this mockup http://nothlit.servehttp.com//mock_usplash.png | 02:46 |
| AlexLatchford | meh, #css is worse | 02:46 |
| AlexLatchford | they want you to validate the damn css first | 02:46 |
| AlexLatchford | when validating it will actually break the browser compatability | 02:47 |
| AlexLatchford | GRRR | 02:47 |
| AlexLatchford | nice | 02:47 |
| gnomefreak | heres a hint there isnt a channel on IRC as helpful as ubuntu-* channels | 02:47 |
| gnomefreak | you have got to love dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: format of `NEEDED libnspr4.so' not recognized | 02:48 |
| gnomefreak | it wont fail but i dont like those warnings | 02:48 |
| asac | yeah :) | 02:48 |
| asac | some will go away | 02:48 |
| asac | as soon as we have proper nspr and nss | 02:48 |
| asac | but not all | 02:49 |
| gnomefreak | ah cool | 02:49 |
| gnomefreak | some better than none | 02:49 |
| AlexLatchford | gnomefreak: yes that is a nice splash actually | 02:49 |
| AlexLatchford | are they building in customizable usplashes into Fiesty+1? | 02:49 |
| gnomefreak | its nice the way it is but i like the indented scroll | 02:49 |
| gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: i dont know. that is for fluxbuntu | 02:50 |
| AlexLatchford | hmm okay | 02:50 |
| AlexLatchford | fluxbuntu? | 02:50 |
| gnomefreak | fluxbox ubuntu | 02:50 |
| gnomefreak | joejaxx is founder and head devel | 02:50 |
| AlexLatchford | ah yes, I remember seeing that on his IRC name | 02:50 |
| AlexLatchford | (sign in string) | 02:50 |
| gnomefreak | host mask/cloak? | 02:51 |
| gnomefreak | ;) | 02:51 |
| AlexLatchford | *shrugs* | 02:51 |
| === AlexLatchford is an IRC newbie | ||
| gnomefreak | in the 20 channels im in on an all the time basis only 2-3 channels i enjoy | 02:52 |
| AlexLatchford | yeah I am on 14 I think | 02:52 |
| AlexLatchford | but I only actually read this one, and 2 others properly | 02:53 |
| === gnomefreak almost smacked self. i went for the 120 channel limit than after i got it thought wtf do i want with more channnels | ||
| gnomefreak | lets how this worked | 02:55 |
| gnomefreak | Updating iceape chrome registry...done. is new | 02:56 |
| gnomefreak | wtf | 02:56 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i dont think thats the file i want to change | 02:56 |
| === gnomefreak will not be uploading those changes | ||
| AlexLatchford | wow, #css came up with an fix to my problem | 03:04 |
| AlexLatchford | yay | 03:04 |
| AlexLatchford | not so bad after all | 03:04 |
| gnomefreak | tell them to fix mine too | 03:04 |
| gnomefreak | i have something i can try its just gonna take an hour or so | 03:04 |
| asac | gnomefreak: so did the build went fine? e.g. ubuntu branding? | 03:13 |
| gnomefreak | it didnt change. im looking at about patch atm | 03:13 |
| gnomefreak | but its not easy as i thought to read | 03:13 |
| asac | its not? | 03:14 |
| gnomefreak | li>See the <a href="about:bugs">Debian bug reports </a> for this package.</li> | 03:14 |
| gnomefreak | + <li>See the <a href="about:buildconfig">build configuration</a> used for this version.</li> | 03:14 |
| gnomefreak | + <script type="application/x-javascript"> | 03:14 |
| gnomefreak | + // add build identifier | 03:14 |
| gnomefreak | + var ua = navigator.userAgent; | 03:14 |
| gnomefreak | i would have to go to the direct file and chang eit? | 03:14 |
| asac | gnomefreak: there are two ways: | 03:14 |
| asac | 1) change it by using dpatch-edit-patch <nameofpatch> | 03:14 |
| asac | i think this is the way to go for you now | 03:15 |
| asac | you just have to edit that file afterwards and then exit the dpatch-edit-patch shell | 03:15 |
| asac | e.g. by Ctrl-D | 03:15 |
| asac | or exit | 03:15 |
| asac | 2) you can edit patch directly | 03:15 |
| gnomefreak | will dpatch be simplier? | 03:16 |
| asac | its the way you should do yes | 03:16 |
| asac | when you become experienced you can go and edit patches directly | 03:16 |
| asac | so go 1) | 03:17 |
| gnomefreak | im trying | 03:17 |
| asac | just change the working ... we have to fix about:bugs to show the right page ... as we cannot replace about:bugs with an internet url | 03:17 |
| gnomefreak | it wont autocomplete and that somewhat bothers me that maybe its wrong | 03:17 |
| asac | (because of security model) | 03:17 |
| asac | what doesn't auto complete? | 03:17 |
| gnomefreak | the patch but i think i got it | 03:18 |
| gnomefreak | 85_about.dpatch exists, this patch will be updated. | 03:18 |
| gnomefreak | dpatch-edit-patch: * Copying /home/gnomefreak/iceape-feisty/iceape-1.1.1 to reference directory. | 03:18 |
| asac | yes thats right | 03:19 |
| gnomefreak | so no input from me? | 03:19 |
| asac | you end up in a dpatch shell ... see that? | 03:19 |
| asac | in it you can edit files you want to modify | 03:20 |
| gnomefreak | not yet | 03:20 |
| asac | ah ... takes time i guess | 03:20 |
| gnomefreak | it looks like the start of building process | 03:20 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 03:20 |
| asac | has to copy whole iceape directory | 03:20 |
| gnomefreak | yep | 03:20 |
| asac | yes .... it makes a clean | 03:20 |
| asac | then copies source tree and applies patches up to the patch you want to edit | 03:20 |
| asac | so yes ... might look like building process | 03:20 |
| gnomefreak | ok now what? | 03:21 |
| gnomefreak | im at shell | 03:21 |
| asac | you edit the files you want to edit | 03:21 |
| asac | e.g. those that are wrongly patched atm | 03:21 |
| gnomefreak | looks like it dumped me in debina dir? | 03:22 |
| asac | i guess iceape/xpfe/global/resources/content/about.xhtml | 03:22 |
| gnomefreak | it would be nice if they would make thi english | 03:25 |
| gnomefreak | ok this <a href="about:bugs">Debian bug reports </a> is a link but what link and how to change it. | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | <li>See the <a href="about:buildconfig">build configuration</a> used for this version.</li> | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | <script type="application/x-javascript"> | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | // add build identifier | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | var ua = navigator.userAgent; | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | if (ua) { | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | that is the part for the lable i need to change but DEbian is never identified before that in the file | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | see firefox uses (ubuntu-edgy/feisty) as build identifier so there has to be a way to make iceape do it as well | 03:28 |
| gnomefreak | asac: let me know if you see something im not seeing please http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/434547 | 03:31 |
| gnomefreak | should be line 105 and below that would control that | 03:32 |
| gnomefreak | what would be nice is to find out where build identifier is defined | 03:38 |
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| gnomefreak | thinking i found where it is defined | 03:56 |
| gnomefreak | it looks to be called by the "aboutdebianmodule" and it sucks | 03:57 |
| joejaxx | gnomefreak: interesting | 04:06 |
| gnomefreak | the xhtml file calls the module and so does about.js but i dont see module anywhere | 04:07 |
| joejaxx | what about about_debian.js | 04:07 |
| gnomefreak | thats what i meant when i said about.js | 04:07 |
| joejaxx | ah ok | 04:07 |
| joejaxx | var AboutDebianModule = { | 04:08 |
| joejaxx | line 101 | 04:08 |
| gnomefreak | var AboutDebianModule = { | 04:08 |
| joejaxx | yeah | 04:08 |
| gnomefreak | yes its calling the module | 04:08 |
| gnomefreak | what line in there do i change the one with "Debian" or is that build config | 04:08 |
| joejaxx | i do not see where it is getting "Debian" from though | 04:08 |
| gnomefreak | thats why i feel there is a seperate module | 04:09 |
| gnomefreak | i dont see a var dir anywhere | 04:11 |
| gnomefreak | think i found it in rules just dont see anything slapping me in face to change | 04:16 |
| gnomefreak | echo "pref(\"general.useragent.extra.iceapeComment\",\"(Debian-$(DEBIAN_VERSION))\");" \ | 04:16 |
| gnomefreak | or is that stricly during build | 04:17 |
| gnomefreak | looks like this is where i would need to be debian/tmp/usr/lib/iceape/defaults/pref/vendor.js | 04:17 |
| gnomefreak | but kind of hard without building it | 04:18 |
| gnomefreak | i give up | 04:22 |
| gnomefreak | thats odd after fakeroot debian/rules source than you unpack the new orig.tar.gz there is no debian dir. | 04:26 |
| gnomefreak | that makes it really hard to save your changes | 04:27 |
| === gnomefreak going to cry if asac comes back saying i was there that is what i needed to change :( | ||
| joejaxx | gnomefreak: that is the line | 04:41 |
| gnomefreak | what line? did you test this? | 04:41 |
| gnomefreak | the echo line i gave above? | 04:44 |
| joejaxx | look in yes | 04:44 |
| joejaxx | yes* | 04:44 |
| joejaxx | # | 04:45 |
| joejaxx | # Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070217 Iceape/1.1.1 (Fluxbuntu-1.1.1-2ubuntu1) | 04:45 |
| joejaxx | hmm where did those pound signs come from | 04:45 |
| gnomefreak | ok so just change Debian-$ to Ubuntu-$ | 04:45 |
| joejaxx | yeah | 04:45 |
| gnomefreak | k ty and no need to rebuild source after that change? | 04:46 |
| joejaxx | hmm? | 04:46 |
| gnomefreak | you used the source you got from your repos? | 04:47 |
| gnomefreak | apt-get source? | 04:47 |
| joejaxx | i used my original 1.1.1 source | 04:47 |
| gnomefreak | k | 04:47 |
| gnomefreak | ty will try it in a fw minutes | 04:48 |
| gnomefreak | s/fw/few | 04:48 |
| joejaxx | you are most welcome | 04:48 |
| asac | i am here | 04:49 |
| asac | :) | 04:49 |
| joejaxx | :) | 04:49 |
| gnomefreak | asac: sorry joejaxx already made me look like a fool | 04:49 |
| asac | joejaxx: thx ;) | 04:49 |
| gnomefreak | you dont get that chance now | 04:49 |
| joejaxx | lol | 04:49 |
| gnomefreak | ;) | 04:49 |
| joejaxx | asac: :P | 04:49 |
| asac | thats why i thanked joejaxx :) | 04:49 |
| gnomefreak | its all good. i found it just wasnt sure if it was it since it echo'ed | 04:50 |
| gnomefreak | holy shit | 04:50 |
| asac | you play ut now? | 04:51 |
| gnomefreak | 85 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 04:51 |
| asac | yeah ... feisty is still moving | 04:51 |
| gnomefreak | ut? | 04:51 |
| asac | Unreal Tournament | 04:51 |
| asac | :) | 04:51 |
| gnomefreak | freeze should be in place | 04:51 |
| asac | if you shoot 10 people in a row you get "Holy Shit" | 04:51 |
| gnomefreak | nope sorry but i heard its a bitch to get it to run on edgy | 04:51 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 04:51 |
| joejaxx | lol | 04:52 |
| === gnomefreak uses my PS2 to play games | ||
| asac | gnomefreak: i had no probs installing ut2004 | 04:53 |
| asac | except i had to install 32-bit libs | 04:54 |
| asac | as it does not work native amd64 | 04:54 |
| gnomefreak | no need for cedega or wine? | 04:54 |
| joejaxx | gnomefreak: they have a linux version | 04:56 |
| gnomefreak | oh sweet | 04:56 |
| gnomefreak | maybe i will try it | 04:56 |
| joejaxx | it is on the same disc | 04:56 |
| joejaxx | you just run the installer | 04:56 |
| joejaxx | i have not tried quake 4 though i should | 04:56 |
| asac | unreal and quake engines are always multi platform | 04:57 |
| gnomefreak | are they free? | 04:57 |
| asac | they want to show how superior there technologies are | 04:57 |
| gnomefreak | as in beer | 04:57 |
| asac | of course not | 04:57 |
| gnomefreak | damn | 04:57 |
| asac | i buy them anyways :) | 04:58 |
| asac | or bought ... quake4 is pretty old as well ... but had to wait until i got new hardware to get some decent performance :) | 04:58 |
| joejaxx | :) | 04:58 |
| asac | actually i buy them because they support linux out of box :) | 05:00 |
| asac | then go online regularly so they see that there are linux customers :) | 05:00 |
| gnomefreak | im gonna go think about lunch and have it :) | 05:12 |
| asac | :) | 05:20 |
| asac | good appetite | 05:20 |
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| poningru | ok so thunderbird will be out in next few days supposedly | 06:41 |
| poningru | rc2 is coming out | 06:41 |
| poningru | and they are pretty sure that will be the release | 06:41 |
| asac | nice | 06:59 |
| asac | though just a little bit too late | 06:59 |
| asac | poningru: wasn't there some news that i will ship in may? | 07:00 |
| poningru | asac: thats the official wiki said | 07:01 |
| poningru | but on the call right now | 07:01 |
| poningru | and they said it will be within next week | 07:02 |
| poningru | like few days | 07:02 |
| asac | why now so fast? | 07:03 |
| asac | guess they have been kicked because mofo wants to stop support for 1.5 branch | 07:04 |
| asac | and they obviously cannot do until tbird 2.0 is out | 07:04 |
| poningru | hehe probably | 07:06 |
| asac | hope its not that way and thunderbird 2.0 ships at least as stable as you can expect for .0 release :) | 07:07 |
| poningru | hehe actually I'd say its really stable right now | 07:07 |
| poningru | I switched to 3.0 like last month | 07:07 |
| poningru | 2.0 was really really stable at that point imho | 07:08 |
| asac | its all relative | 07:09 |
| asac | running stable once you run is fine :) | 07:09 |
| poningru | buh? | 07:10 |
| asac | but what happens if you come with old mailbox ... old .msf files :) | 07:10 |
| asac | s/mailbox/profile/ | 07:10 |
| poningru | oh yeah this profile has been there since 1.0 | 07:10 |
| asac | you never needed to remove a file manually during that time? | 07:11 |
| poningru | nope | 07:11 |
| asac | lucky man :) | 07:12 |
| poningru | hehe | 07:12 |
| asac | probably you won't win the lottery anymore | 07:12 |
| poningru | DAMN! | 07:12 |
| asac | all faith wasted ;) | 07:12 |
| === poningru goes back to 1.5 and stops using any beta software | ||
| poningru | funny thing is my roommates hate me using alpha/beta software | 07:13 |
| asac | ? | 07:13 |
| poningru | for example for my fileserver has been running feisty for about a month now | 07:13 |
| asac | maybe because you are a security hole for your local net? | 07:13 |
| poningru | naah not for my router | 07:13 |
| poningru | I wouldnt do that | 07:13 |
| poningru | but yeah the fileserver just stores our crap | 07:14 |
| poningru | and my roomie was installing bugzilla on it | 07:14 |
| poningru | attempting to atleast | 07:14 |
| poningru | failed miserably | 07:14 |
| poningru | I had to go hack around | 07:15 |
| poningru | same thing with bip | 07:15 |
| asac | for me this is all is irrelevant as i hate mozilla plugin framework :) | 07:15 |
| poningru | buh? | 07:16 |
| poningru | plugin right? not extension right? | 07:16 |
| poningru | cause agreed with you then | 07:16 |
| asac | why does it not remove all gtk_widgets and windows that matter | 07:16 |
| asac | in case it kills a plugin | 07:16 |
| asac | yes plugin | 07:16 |
| asac | if plugin does not clean up like mozilla likes it just keeps GtkNativePluginWindow | 07:17 |
| poningru | hehe | 07:17 |
| asac | and crashes afterwards, because the layout frames around it are already gone ... together with all information | 07:17 |
| === gnomefreak should have looked at patches while i was at it :( | ||
| poningru | have we packaged sunbird? | 07:46 |
| gnomefreak | i didnt plan on it but week is only half over | 07:49 |
| gnomefreak | is it in debian experimental by chance? | 07:50 |
| gnomefreak | sunbird == calendar? | 07:52 |
| gnomefreak | ok i have it | 07:53 |
| gnomefreak | i will think about it and get with asac on it | 07:53 |
| poningru | k | 07:54 |
| poningru | calendar is the extension | 07:54 |
| poningru | for thunderbird/firefox | 07:54 |
| poningru | sunbird is the standalone | 07:54 |
| poningru | xulapp | 07:54 |
| gnomefreak | i know | 07:54 |
| gnomefreak | i asked beore page loaded | 07:55 |
| gnomefreak | before | 07:55 |
| poningru | ah gotcha | 07:56 |
| poningru | woah wtf | 07:57 |
| poningru | we have 27K packages? | 07:57 |
| poningru | from where? | 07:57 |
| gnomefreak | why would i think anything different | 08:02 |
| gnomefreak | asac: you have your hand in everything mozilla related and debian :) | 08:02 |
| poningru | buh? | 08:06 |
| gnomefreak | he is maintainer for all debian/mozilla products in one form or another | 08:09 |
| poningru | hehe | 08:13 |
| poningru | gotcha | 08:13 |
| gnomefreak | asac: sometime before you leave do happen to have the svn to debians sunbird debian dir. i search debian.org for it and couldnt find it | 08:18 |
| gnomefreak | asac: oh and you need to update sunbird in debian (if your still devel for them) to rc2 it looks like its alpha2 atm | 08:19 |
| gnomefreak | in experimental | 08:19 |
| === gnomefreak updating the iceape branding fix atm and will look into starting on sunbird for repos before bedtime i hope | ||
| asac | sunbird is a mess | 08:21 |
| asac | maintainers only release from trunk | 08:21 |
| gnomefreak | that bad? | 08:21 |
| asac | i will ask again ... last time they said, that releasing from stable branches makes no sense | 08:22 |
| asac | maybe they changed attitude | 08:22 |
| asac | its usable if you take a snapshot | 08:22 |
| gnomefreak | maybe i wont be doing it. thank you for asking again | 08:22 |
| asac | but it will change in a few much so much that we cannot use it to update security issues et al | 08:23 |
| gnomefreak | wth | 08:23 |
| asac | s/few much/few month/ | 08:23 |
| === gnomefreak not understanding mozilla the more i hear | ||
| poningru | yeah they plan on going more sensible after .5 iirc | 08:24 |
| poningru | their argument is basically that its <1.0 and it would slow down dev too much if they stuck with many branches | 08:25 |
| asac | good to hear :) | 08:25 |
| asac | poningru: yeah ... might be basic statement | 08:25 |
| poningru | but iirc .7 they wanna go a branch and trunk system | 08:25 |
| asac | developer i talked to said, it would never ever make sense :) | 08:25 |
| asac | i stopped arguing about ;) | 08:25 |
| gnomefreak | .7 a bit off | 08:25 |
| poningru | gnomefreak: it is | 08:26 |
| poningru | .5 is coming out soonish | 08:26 |
| asac | as i said i will talk to them soon again :) | 08:26 |
| gnomefreak | .3 isnt stable and not much work has been done on it | 08:26 |
| poningru | hold on let me check where I read this | 08:26 |
| gnomefreak | removing mt0 and mt1 from repos | 08:29 |
| joejaxx | hello all i am back :) | 10:21 |
| gnomefreak | asac: repo is updated | 10:28 |
| === gnomefreak testing now | ||
| gnomefreak | @schedule new_york | 10:34 |
| ubotu | Schedule for America/New_York: Current meeting: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 16:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 16:00: Development Team | 12 Apr 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 16:00: Forum Council | 17 Apr 11:00: Kernel Team | 10:34 |
| gnomefreak | joejaxx: whats the process to make fluxbuntu official? | 10:41 |
| joejaxx | to make fluxbuntu official? i do not know | 10:52 |
| joejaxx | no one has said anything to me regarding that | 10:52 |
| gnomefreak | yeah. it would be nice im seeing alot of people running fluxbox lately | 10:52 |
| === gnomefreak gone for a while | ||
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