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[01:56] <asac> gnomefreak: sorry hat to go ... cu tomorrow. night.
[01:56] <gnomefreak> night
[01:59] <gnomefreak> ok they are uploaded checking to see if its safe ;)
[02:13] <gnomefreak> asac: might have taken better part of today because of the stupidity of me :( but its all built and uploaded good night
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[10:03] <asac> gnomefreak: i try your archive in a minute
[10:06] <asac> gnomefreak: appears to upgrade like a charm. Well done
[10:07] <asac> next i have to setup (auto) builds of your sources on amd64 here
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[11:49] <gnomefreak> it fails im gonna rebuild again today. the debian branding is still there
[11:50] <asac> yep
[11:50] <asac> i saw that
[11:50] <asac> apparently the source tarball was not properly patches everywhere
[11:51] <gnomefreak> after new source should i have unpacked new source :(
[11:51] <asac> yeah :)
[11:51] <gnomefreak> ^^^ thinks i missed that step
[11:52] <gnomefreak> as soon as i think of a nice changelog entry (not like *screwed up bad redoing*)
[11:55] <asac> why not :)
[11:55] <asac> its just mt2
[11:55] <asac> or mt3 :)
[11:56] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:56] <asac> name it "fixed branding for real :)"
[11:56] <asac> or even better:
[11:56] <asac> * fixed branding for real - maybe ;)
[11:56] <gnomefreak> i was thinking something like that
[11:56] <asac> yeah ... just be a poet
[11:56] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:56] <asac> after you did that right once you won't need to upload new orig.tar.gz for every change
[11:57] <asac> its just unfortunate that this change requires orig.tar.gz change
[11:57] <asac> usually its not done that way
[11:57] <asac> so sorry for the bandwidth consumed uploading stuff
[11:58] <gnomefreak> the orig.tar.gz has the changes already so i change the changelog make sure remove.nonfree is still right and build it
=== gnomefreak might look for something else to change to help make it look like it wasnt all for not
[11:58] <asac> ?
[11:59] <asac> the orig.tar.gz is generated *after* remove.nonfree is run
[11:59] <gnomefreak> like replacing maintainers feisld from (long list of debian devels to you
[11:59] <gnomefreak> asac: yes it was but i never unpacked orig i used what was already unpacked
[11:59] <asac> hmmm
[12:00] <asac> the point is
[12:00] <asac> that orig.tar.gz is generated from unpacked sources
[12:00] <gnomefreak> right
[12:00] <asac> if you didn't build orig.tar.gz in a different location ... then i don't think its like you say
[12:00] <asac> otherwise... might be
[12:00] <asac> :)
[12:00] <asac> just test I guess :)
[12:01] <gnomefreak> i rebuilt orig.tar.gz than went back into source dir and changed changelog (instead of getting rid of the source dir and unpacking orig.tar.gz and changing it
[12:02] <asac> ok
[12:02] <asac> try :)
[12:02] <gnomefreak> i am :)
=== gnomefreak needs more coffee
[12:03] <asac> me too ... but mine is empty
[12:03] <asac> :)
[12:03] <asac> got to go and buy some
[12:03] <gnomefreak> mine brewing
[12:03] <asac> so probably early lunch today
[12:03] <gnomefreak> i dont blame you
[12:04] <gnomefreak> to me coffee is more important than firefox ;)
[12:04] <asac> i hope not ... i am already suffering enough from this coffee shortage
=== gnomefreak has to go out after i get this started to get something to eat so i can take the new medicine
[12:05] <asac> yeah ... go :)
[12:06] <gnomefreak> hopefully ill have this fixed early today
[12:06] <gnomefreak> leave in about 30 minutes or so
[12:08] <gnomefreak> oh have you heard of when a fix for enigmail for iceape will be fixed assuing its an iceape issue
[12:09] <asac> ?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> i just got email about it :)
[12:09] <asac> you read mail on mozilla mainatiners?
[12:09] <asac> yeah
[12:09] <asac> the .xpi should be usable for us as well
[12:09] <asac> until i come around package things up
[12:10] <gnomefreak> not sure if that will help us
[12:10] <gnomefreak> it doesnt crash on 1.1.1 it cant be installed
[12:11] <gnomefreak> will test
[12:14] <asac> ah right
[12:14] <asac> might be the case very well
[12:17] <gnomefreak> iceape needs a tools>extension menu entry like thunderbirds so we can install downloaded .xpis
[12:21] <gnomefreak> im gonna assume that would be a patch and not so easy to do :(
[12:22] <asac> yeah
[12:22] <asac> seamonkey neeeds extension manaager
[12:22] <asac> which it hasn't yet
[12:23] <gnomefreak> thats up to them to add?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> i will look in compile options but i dont think its that easy
[12:24] <asac> its needs code
[12:24] <asac> its not implemented
[12:24] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:24] <asac> seamonkey still has the rotten old extension mechanism from mozilla suite days
[12:25] <gnomefreak> how do we request it?
[12:25] <asac> we don't need to
[12:25] <gnomefreak> cool:)
[12:25] <asac> they know about it and probably lack resources to do it
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:26] <asac> its on there todo list
[12:26] <asac> and of course they know that its important :)
=== gnomefreak hopes they fix it before feisty+1. IMO its a showstopper 
[12:31] <gnomefreak> i can just see the bugs fly on cant add extensions to iceape-mail
[12:40] <asac> ok ... out for coffee lunch et al
[12:41] <gnomefreak> ok see you. im out also
=== asac installing vmware 6 beta
[02:14] <asac> old one broke with feisty upgrade -> no RC testing ;)
[02:16] <gnomefreak> vmware broke in feisty?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> is that what people have been ranting about for a few weeks now?
[02:17] <asac> no idea ;)
[02:18] <gnomefreak> ive seen alot of how do you do this it doesnt work crap with i believe vmware-player (if that is the one in repos)
[02:18] <asac> you need 6beta ... current stable (5.5) doesn't work :)
[02:18] <asac> hmmm
[02:18] <asac> interesting
[02:18] <asac> which version is there?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> not sure what name is it? player or server
[02:19] <gnomefreak> Candidate: 1.0.2-2
[02:19] <gnomefreak> for player
[02:19] <asac> hmm
[02:19] <asac> no idea what that version means
[02:19] <gnomefreak> thats the only package i see for vmware
[02:19] <asac> i had 5.5.5
[02:19] <asac> now its 6 beta
[02:20] <gnomefreak> asac: maybe vmware-server from site?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> try apt-cache policy vmware-server?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> im asking joejaxx because i remember him saying it was broken
[02:21] <gnomefreak> but hes not around i dont htink
[02:22] <asac> damn all my previous vmware images are not recognized anymore
[02:22] <gnomefreak> that means starting over?
[02:22] <asac> what shitty tech is this?
[02:22] <asac> no :)
[02:23] <gnomefreak> oh ok good
[02:23] <asac> it means i have to figure out which files i have to delete
[02:23] <asac> because they use multiple gig of space
[02:23] <asac> and now they are not used anymore :)
[02:26] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:28] <asac> ok feisty install boots up :)
[02:28] <asac> crazy thing is that sound really works ... even though live cd boots in vmware
[02:31] <gnomefreak> sound should work shouldnt it?
[02:33] <asac> it does :)
[02:33] <asac> just find it exciting that it does within
[02:33] <asac> vmware
[02:37] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:40] <AlexLatchford> http://www.phpbbdoctor.com/temp/network.jpg
[02:40] <AlexLatchford> lol, a friend of mine drew his network diagram
[02:40] <AlexLatchford> note the addition to the 16 port switch
[02:42] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: i would hate to see his eletric bill :(
[02:43] <AlexLatchford> lol
[02:43] <AlexLatchford> lets see if #css is as useless as #apache
[02:44] <gnomefreak> it is ;) but thats just what i have heard. i know neither all that well
[02:44] <AlexLatchford> yeah #apache is just a pointless channel, may as well just message the damn bot on its own they use it so much
[02:46] <gnomefreak> i kind of like this mockup http://nothlit.servehttp.com//mock_usplash.png
[02:46] <AlexLatchford> meh, #css is worse
[02:46] <AlexLatchford> they want you to validate the damn css first
[02:47] <AlexLatchford> when validating it will actually break the browser compatability
[02:47] <AlexLatchford> GRRR
[02:47] <AlexLatchford> nice
[02:47] <gnomefreak> heres a hint there isnt a channel on IRC as helpful as ubuntu-* channels
[02:48] <gnomefreak> you have got to love dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: format of `NEEDED libnspr4.so' not recognized
[02:48] <gnomefreak> it wont fail but i dont like those warnings
[02:48] <asac> yeah :)
[02:48] <asac> some will go away
[02:48] <asac> as soon as we have proper nspr and nss
[02:49] <asac> but not all
[02:49] <gnomefreak> ah cool
[02:49] <gnomefreak> some better than none
[02:49] <AlexLatchford> gnomefreak: yes that is a nice splash actually
[02:49] <AlexLatchford> are they building in customizable usplashes into Fiesty+1?
[02:49] <gnomefreak> its nice the way it is but i like the indented scroll
[02:50] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: i dont know. that is for fluxbuntu
[02:50] <AlexLatchford> hmm okay
[02:50] <AlexLatchford> fluxbuntu?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> fluxbox ubuntu
[02:50] <gnomefreak> joejaxx is founder and head devel
[02:50] <AlexLatchford> ah yes, I remember seeing that on his IRC name
[02:50] <AlexLatchford> (sign in string)
[02:51] <gnomefreak> host mask/cloak?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> ;)
[02:51] <AlexLatchford> *shrugs*
=== AlexLatchford is an IRC newbie
[02:52] <gnomefreak> in the 20 channels im in on an all the time basis only 2-3 channels i enjoy
[02:52] <AlexLatchford> yeah I am on 14 I think
[02:53] <AlexLatchford> but I only actually read this one, and 2 others properly
=== gnomefreak almost smacked self. i went for the 120 channel limit than after i got it thought wtf do i want with more channnels
[02:55] <gnomefreak> lets how this worked
[02:56] <gnomefreak> Updating iceape chrome registry...done. is new
[02:56] <gnomefreak> wtf
[02:56] <gnomefreak> asac: i dont think thats the file i want to change
=== gnomefreak will not be uploading those changes
[03:04] <AlexLatchford> wow, #css came up with an fix to my problem
[03:04] <AlexLatchford> yay
[03:04] <AlexLatchford> not so bad after all
[03:04] <gnomefreak> tell them to fix mine too
[03:04] <gnomefreak> i have something i can try its just gonna take an hour or so
[03:13] <asac> gnomefreak: so did the build went fine? e.g. ubuntu branding?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> it didnt change. im looking at about patch atm
[03:13] <gnomefreak> but its not easy as i thought to read
[03:14] <asac> its not?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> li>See the <a href="about:bugs">Debian bug reports </a> for this package.</li>
[03:14] <gnomefreak> +    <li>See the <a href="about:buildconfig">build configuration</a> used for this version.</li>
[03:14] <gnomefreak> +    <script type="application/x-javascript">
[03:14] <gnomefreak> +      // add build identifier
[03:14] <gnomefreak> +      var ua = navigator.userAgent;
[03:14] <gnomefreak> i would have to go to the direct file and chang eit?
[03:14] <asac> gnomefreak: there are two ways:
[03:14] <asac> 1) change it by using dpatch-edit-patch <nameofpatch>
[03:15] <asac> i think this is the way to go for you now
[03:15] <asac> you just have to edit that file afterwards and then exit the dpatch-edit-patch shell
[03:15] <asac> e.g. by Ctrl-D
[03:15] <asac> or exit
[03:15] <asac> 2) you can edit patch directly
[03:16] <gnomefreak> will dpatch be simplier?
[03:16] <asac> its the way you should do yes
[03:16] <asac> when you become experienced you can go and edit patches directly
[03:17] <asac> so go 1)
[03:17] <gnomefreak> im trying
[03:17] <asac> just change the working ... we have to fix about:bugs to show the right page ... as we cannot replace about:bugs with an internet url
[03:17] <gnomefreak> it wont autocomplete and that somewhat bothers me that maybe its wrong
[03:17] <asac> (because of security model)
[03:17] <asac> what doesn't auto complete?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> the patch but i think i got it
[03:18] <gnomefreak> 85_about.dpatch exists, this patch will be updated.
[03:18] <gnomefreak> dpatch-edit-patch: * Copying /home/gnomefreak/iceape-feisty/iceape-1.1.1 to reference directory.
[03:19] <asac> yes thats right
[03:19] <gnomefreak> so no input from me?
[03:19] <asac> you end up in a dpatch shell ... see that?
[03:20] <asac> in it you can edit files you want to modify
[03:20] <gnomefreak> not yet
[03:20] <asac> ah ... takes time i guess
[03:20] <gnomefreak> it looks like the start of building process
[03:20] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:20] <asac> has to copy whole iceape directory
[03:20] <gnomefreak> yep
[03:20] <asac> yes .... it makes a clean
[03:20] <asac> then copies source tree and applies patches up to the patch you want to edit
[03:20] <asac> so yes ... might look like building process
[03:21] <gnomefreak> ok now what?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> im at shell
[03:21] <asac> you edit the files you want to edit
[03:21] <asac> e.g. those that are wrongly patched atm
[03:22] <gnomefreak> looks like it dumped me in debina dir?
[03:22] <asac> i guess iceape/xpfe/global/resources/content/about.xhtml
[03:25] <gnomefreak> it would be nice if they would make thi english
[03:26] <gnomefreak> ok this <a href="about:bugs">Debian bug reports </a>  is a link but what link and how to change it.
[03:26] <gnomefreak> <li>See the <a href="about:buildconfig">build configuration</a> used for this version.</li>
[03:26] <gnomefreak>     <script type="application/x-javascript">
[03:26] <gnomefreak>       // add build identifier
[03:26] <gnomefreak>       var ua = navigator.userAgent;
[03:26] <gnomefreak>       if (ua) {
[03:26] <gnomefreak> that is the part for the lable i need to change but DEbian is never identified before that in the file
[03:28] <gnomefreak> see firefox uses (ubuntu-edgy/feisty) as build identifier so there has to be a way to make iceape do it as well
[03:31] <gnomefreak> asac: let me know if you see something im not seeing please http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/434547
[03:32] <gnomefreak> should be line 105 and below that would control that
[03:38] <gnomefreak> what would be nice is to find out where build identifier is defined
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[03:56] <gnomefreak> thinking i found where it is defined
[03:57] <gnomefreak> it looks to be called by the "aboutdebianmodule" and it sucks
[04:06] <joejaxx> gnomefreak: interesting
[04:07] <gnomefreak> the xhtml file calls the module and so does about.js but i dont see module anywhere
[04:07] <joejaxx> what about about_debian.js
[04:07] <gnomefreak> thats what i meant when i said about.js
[04:07] <joejaxx> ah ok
[04:08] <joejaxx> var AboutDebianModule = {
[04:08] <joejaxx> line 101
[04:08] <gnomefreak> var AboutDebianModule = {
[04:08] <joejaxx> yeah
[04:08] <gnomefreak> yes its calling the module
[04:08] <gnomefreak> what line in there do i change the one with "Debian" or is that build config
[04:08] <joejaxx> i do not see where it is getting "Debian" from though
[04:09] <gnomefreak> thats why i feel there is a seperate module
[04:11] <gnomefreak> i dont see a var dir anywhere
[04:16] <gnomefreak> think i found it in rules just dont see anything slapping me in face to change
[04:16] <gnomefreak> echo "pref(\"general.useragent.extra.iceapeComment\",\"(Debian-$(DEBIAN_VERSION))\");" \
[04:17] <gnomefreak> or is that stricly during build
[04:17] <gnomefreak> looks like this is where i would need to be debian/tmp/usr/lib/iceape/defaults/pref/vendor.js
[04:18] <gnomefreak> but kind of hard without building it
[04:22] <gnomefreak> i give up
[04:26] <gnomefreak> thats odd after fakeroot debian/rules source than you unpack the new orig.tar.gz there is no debian dir.
[04:27] <gnomefreak> that makes it really hard to save your changes
=== gnomefreak going to cry if asac comes back saying i was there that is what i needed to change :(
[04:41] <joejaxx> gnomefreak: that is the line
[04:41] <gnomefreak> what line? did you test this?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> the echo line i gave above?
[04:44] <joejaxx> look in yes
[04:44] <joejaxx> yes*
[04:45] <joejaxx> #
[04:45] <joejaxx> #     Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070217 Iceape/1.1.1 (Fluxbuntu-1.1.1-2ubuntu1)
[04:45] <joejaxx> hmm where did those pound signs come from
[04:45] <gnomefreak> ok so just change Debian-$ to Ubuntu-$
[04:45] <joejaxx> yeah
[04:46] <gnomefreak> k ty and no need to rebuild source after that change?
[04:46] <joejaxx> hmm?
[04:47] <gnomefreak> you used the source you got from your repos?
[04:47] <gnomefreak> apt-get source?
[04:47] <joejaxx> i used my original 1.1.1 source
[04:47] <gnomefreak> k
[04:48] <gnomefreak> ty will try it in a fw minutes
[04:48] <gnomefreak> s/fw/few
[04:48] <joejaxx> you are most welcome
[04:49] <asac> i am here
[04:49] <asac> :)
[04:49] <joejaxx> :)
[04:49] <gnomefreak> asac: sorry joejaxx already made me look like a fool
[04:49] <asac> joejaxx: thx ;)
[04:49] <gnomefreak> you dont get that chance now
[04:49] <joejaxx> lol
[04:49] <gnomefreak> ;)
[04:49] <joejaxx> asac: :P
[04:49] <asac> thats why i thanked joejaxx :)
[04:50] <gnomefreak> its all good. i found it just wasnt sure if it was it since it echo'ed
[04:50] <gnomefreak> holy shit
[04:51] <asac> you play ut now?
[04:51] <gnomefreak> 85 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:51] <asac> yeah ... feisty is still moving
[04:51] <gnomefreak> ut?
[04:51] <asac> Unreal Tournament
[04:51] <asac> :)
[04:51] <gnomefreak> freeze should be in place
[04:51] <asac> if you shoot 10 people in a row you get "Holy Shit"
[04:51] <gnomefreak> nope sorry but i heard its a bitch to get it to run on edgy
[04:51] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:52] <joejaxx> lol
=== gnomefreak uses my PS2 to play games
[04:53] <asac> gnomefreak: i had no probs installing ut2004
[04:54] <asac> except i had to install 32-bit libs
[04:54] <asac> as it does not work native amd64
[04:54] <gnomefreak> no need for cedega or wine?
[04:56] <joejaxx> gnomefreak: they have a linux version
[04:56] <gnomefreak> oh sweet
[04:56] <gnomefreak> maybe i will try it
[04:56] <joejaxx> it is on the same disc
[04:56] <joejaxx> you just run the installer
[04:56] <joejaxx> i have not tried quake 4 though i should
[04:57] <asac> unreal and quake engines are always multi platform
[04:57] <gnomefreak> are they free?
[04:57] <asac> they want to show how superior there technologies are
[04:57] <gnomefreak> as in beer
[04:57] <asac> of course not
[04:57] <gnomefreak> damn
[04:58] <asac> i buy them anyways :)
[04:58] <asac> or bought ... quake4 is pretty old as well ... but had to wait until i got new hardware to get some decent performance :)
[04:58] <joejaxx> :)
[05:00] <asac> actually i buy them because they support linux out of box :)
[05:00] <asac> then go online regularly so they see that there are linux customers :)
[05:12] <gnomefreak> im gonna go think about lunch and have it :)
[05:20] <asac> :)
[05:20] <asac> good appetite
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[06:41] <poningru> ok so thunderbird will be out in next few days supposedly
[06:41] <poningru> rc2 is coming out
[06:41] <poningru> and they are pretty sure that will be the release
[06:59] <asac> nice
[06:59] <asac> though just a little bit too late
[07:00] <asac> poningru: wasn't there some news that i will ship in may?
[07:01] <poningru> asac: thats the official wiki said
[07:01] <poningru> but on the call right now
[07:02] <poningru> and they said it will be within next week
[07:02] <poningru> like few days
[07:03] <asac> why now so fast?
[07:04] <asac> guess they have been kicked because mofo wants to stop support for 1.5 branch
[07:04] <asac> and they obviously cannot do until tbird 2.0 is out
[07:06] <poningru> hehe probably
[07:07] <asac> hope its not that way and thunderbird 2.0 ships at least as stable as you can expect for .0 release :)
[07:07] <poningru> hehe actually I'd say its really stable right now
[07:07] <poningru> I switched to 3.0 like last month
[07:08] <poningru> 2.0 was really really stable at that point imho
[07:09] <asac> its all relative
[07:09] <asac> running stable once you run is fine :)
[07:10] <poningru> buh?
[07:10] <asac> but what happens if you come with old mailbox ... old .msf files :)
[07:10] <asac> s/mailbox/profile/
[07:10] <poningru> oh yeah this profile has been there since 1.0
[07:11] <asac> you never needed to remove a file manually during that time?
[07:11] <poningru> nope
[07:12] <asac> lucky man :)
[07:12] <poningru> hehe
[07:12] <asac> probably you won't win the lottery anymore
[07:12] <poningru> DAMN!
[07:12] <asac> all faith wasted ;)
=== poningru goes back to 1.5 and stops using any beta software
[07:13] <poningru> funny thing is my roommates hate me using alpha/beta software
[07:13] <asac> ?
[07:13] <poningru> for example for my fileserver has been running feisty for about a month now
[07:13] <asac> maybe because you are a security hole for your local net?
[07:13] <poningru> naah not for my router
[07:13] <poningru> I wouldnt do that
[07:14] <poningru> but yeah the fileserver just stores our crap
[07:14] <poningru> and my roomie was installing bugzilla on it
[07:14] <poningru> attempting to atleast
[07:14] <poningru> failed miserably
[07:15] <poningru> I had to go hack around
[07:15] <poningru> same thing with bip
[07:15] <asac> for me this is all is irrelevant as i hate mozilla plugin framework :)
[07:16] <poningru> buh?
[07:16] <poningru> plugin right? not extension right?
[07:16] <poningru> cause agreed with you then
[07:16] <asac> why does it not remove all gtk_widgets and windows that matter
[07:16] <asac> in case it kills a plugin
[07:16] <asac> yes plugin
[07:17] <asac> if plugin does not clean up like mozilla likes it just keeps GtkNativePluginWindow
[07:17] <poningru> hehe
[07:17] <asac> and crashes afterwards, because the layout frames around it are already gone ... together with all information
=== gnomefreak should have looked at patches while i was at it :(
[07:46] <poningru> have we packaged sunbird?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> i didnt plan on it but week is only half over
[07:50] <gnomefreak> is it in debian experimental by chance?
[07:52] <gnomefreak> sunbird == calendar?
[07:53] <gnomefreak> ok i have it
[07:53] <gnomefreak> i will think about it and get with asac on it
[07:54] <poningru> k
[07:54] <poningru> calendar is the extension
[07:54] <poningru> for thunderbird/firefox
[07:54] <poningru> sunbird is the standalone
[07:54] <poningru> xulapp
[07:54] <gnomefreak> i know
[07:55] <gnomefreak> i asked beore page loaded
[07:55] <gnomefreak> before
[07:56] <poningru> ah gotcha
[07:57] <poningru> woah wtf
[07:57] <poningru> we have 27K packages?
[07:57] <poningru> from where?
[08:02] <gnomefreak> why would i think anything different
[08:02] <gnomefreak> asac: you have your hand in everything mozilla related and debian :)
[08:06] <poningru> buh?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> he is maintainer for all debian/mozilla products in one form or another
[08:13] <poningru> hehe
[08:13] <poningru> gotcha
[08:18] <gnomefreak> asac: sometime before you leave do happen to have the svn to debians sunbird debian dir. i search debian.org for it and couldnt find it
[08:19] <gnomefreak> asac: oh and you need to update sunbird in debian (if your still devel for them) to rc2 it looks like its alpha2 atm
[08:19] <gnomefreak> in experimental
=== gnomefreak updating the iceape branding fix atm and will look into starting on sunbird for repos before bedtime i hope
[08:21] <asac> sunbird is a mess
[08:21] <asac> maintainers only release from trunk
[08:21] <gnomefreak> that bad?
[08:22] <asac> i will ask again ... last time they said, that releasing from stable branches makes no sense
[08:22] <asac> maybe they changed attitude
[08:22] <asac> its usable if you take a snapshot
[08:22] <gnomefreak> maybe i wont be doing it. thank you for asking again
[08:23] <asac> but it will change in a few much so much that we cannot use it to update security issues et al
[08:23] <gnomefreak> wth
[08:23] <asac> s/few much/few month/
=== gnomefreak not understanding mozilla the more i hear
[08:24] <poningru> yeah they plan on going more sensible after .5 iirc
[08:25] <poningru> their argument is basically that its <1.0 and it would slow down dev too much if they stuck with many branches
[08:25] <asac> good to hear :)
[08:25] <asac> poningru: yeah ... might be basic statement
[08:25] <poningru> but iirc .7 they wanna go a branch and trunk system
[08:25] <asac> developer i talked to said, it would never ever make sense :)
[08:25] <asac> i stopped arguing about ;)
[08:25] <gnomefreak> .7 a bit off
[08:26] <poningru> gnomefreak: it is
[08:26] <poningru> .5 is coming out soonish
[08:26] <asac> as i said i will talk to them soon again :)
[08:26] <gnomefreak> .3 isnt stable and not much work has been done on it
[08:26] <poningru> hold on let me check where I read this
[08:29] <gnomefreak> removing mt0 and mt1 from repos
[10:21] <joejaxx> hello all i am back :)
[10:28] <gnomefreak> asac: repo is updated
=== gnomefreak testing now
[10:34] <gnomefreak> @schedule new_york
[10:34] <ubotu> Schedule for America/New_York: Current meeting: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 16:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 16:00: Development Team | 12 Apr 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 16:00: Forum Council | 17 Apr 11:00: Kernel Team
[10:41] <gnomefreak> joejaxx: whats the process to make fluxbuntu official?
[10:52] <joejaxx> to make fluxbuntu official? i do not know
[10:52] <joejaxx> no one has said anything to me regarding that
[10:52] <gnomefreak> yeah. it would be nice im seeing alot of people running fluxbox lately
=== gnomefreak gone for a while