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| martalli|cli | I just did my first server install, and upon update, it did not update the kernel. It says that is being kept back | 01:51 |
| martalli|cli | Do I need to sudo aptitude dist-upgrade | 01:51 |
| martalli|cli | Or is the standard way to upgrade different for the command line? Maybe 2.6.20.12 is as far as the server distribution has gone? | 01:52 |
| martalli|cli | ohhh...and what irc client should I use from cli? Using epic now, but are people using something lese more typically? | 01:53 |
| mralphabet | 18:52 < martalli|cli> Do I need to sudo aptitude dist-upgrade | 01:56 |
| mralphabet | yes | 01:56 |
| martalli|cli | When do I know to do that...from the gui, the update manager suggests it only every so often | 01:57 |
| mralphabet | server? gui? | 01:57 |
| martalli|cli | My understanding is that a dist-upgrade may downgrade or delete packages | 01:57 |
| mralphabet | what version of server did you install? | 01:57 |
| martalli|cli | mralphabet: I have mostly used the gui for desktop use...so I am trying to picture whether updates shoudl always be dist-upgrade or upgrade and when I shoudl decide | 01:58 |
| martalli|cli | Now I am working with a server install. I'm pretty comfortable working with the cli, but a completely cli system is new for me (of course, there was college back in 1989, but I didn't administer those machines =) | 01:59 |
| mralphabet | no problem | 01:59 |
| mralphabet | personally I use update / upgrade 99% of the time until there is a package held back that I want | 02:00 |
| mralphabet | then I use dist-upgrade and make sure it's not going to do anything untoward | 02:00 |
| martalli|cli | mralphabet - I installed 7.04 beta (2.6.20.12 kernel) | 02:00 |
| martalli|cli | mralphabet - that sounds reasonable...it is just a matter of watching what apt-get or aptitude is telling me | 02:01 |
| mralphabet | martalli|cli: as you should be anyway ;) | 02:01 |
| martalli|cli | yes indeed...i guess I'm not using the cli because I just like to watch the (windows/apple/ubuntu) gui updater do its work =) | 02:02 |
| mralphabet | heh | 02:03 |
| martalli|cli | Im just up to a little project - turning a p2-300 machine into an mpd jukebox for our phone server/pbx | 02:03 |
| martalli|cli | How can I get a help dialog in vim? I want to find out how to cut/paste or copy/paste | 02:05 |
| martalli|cli | I figure, its time to move past nano. Maybe I'm wrong | 02:06 |
| mralphabet | ctrl insert / shift insert | 02:12 |
| mralphabet | this in ssh? or something else | 02:12 |
| mralphabet | or you can do yy | 02:12 |
| mralphabet | or 5yy to copy 5 lines | 02:13 |
| mralphabet | p to paste | 02:13 |
| martalli|cli | I'm logged in directly (but eventually this will just be a headless server | 02:13 |
| martalli|cli | with ssh) | 02:13 |
| martalli|cli | No, I wanted to copy like two words and paste it in a few spots | 02:14 |
| martalli|cli | I did find the online help file (thank you, links2 lol =) | 02:14 |
| martalli|cli | FOr some reason, it isn't included on the vim-tiny/server install | 02:14 |
| martalli|cli | I guess they expect I know how to use vi lol | 02:14 |
| mralphabet | heh, I always do it from terminal so [ctrl|shft] ins works for me ;) | 02:14 |
| martalli|cli | Hey, where I can I change this from dhcp to define a specific address? | 02:15 |
| martalli|cli | That way I won't have to log into the firewall to chase down what address it got from the dhcp server? | 02:15 |
| mralphabet | ./etc/network/interfaces | 02:16 |
| martalli|cli | thx | 02:16 |
| martalli|cli | Ahah, man interfaces makes it pretty clear | 02:17 |
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| martalli|cli | mralphabet - thanks for your help. That was pretty easy to change...compared to the gui is was like magic | 02:42 |
| martalli|cli | Doing it on the gui (i think mdv), it took something like a minute befroe on this same machine | 02:43 |
| martalli|cli | (changing from dhcp to static address) | 02:43 |
| mralphabet | np | 02:44 |
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| dthacker | Hi, I'm running edgy server. Is there curses based utility that I can run to help with network config? | 05:09 |
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| dthacker | hmmmm, no ntp.conf file? | 07:01 |
| dthacker | I''ll use ntpdate for now.... | 07:29 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | dthacker, afaik no UI for networking no | 10:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ntp.conf for clients, or for servers? | 10:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ntp is done by a script in /etc/network/interfaces/if-up.d iirc | 10:38 |
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| Nafallo | Kamping_Kaiser: don't you mean ntpdate? :-) | 01:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Nafallo, quite likely. :) | 01:49 |
| Nafallo | cause ntp is still /etc/init.d/ntp :-) | 01:49 |
| Nafallo | kewl! irssi has tabcompletion to the filesystem | 01:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | neat | 01:50 |
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| dthacker | Kamping_Kaiser: I want to run ntpd on this server, sync with an outside time server, and have all internal severs hit this one | 02:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | /etc/ntp.conf exists on my system, is really all i can say :| | 02:15 |
| dthacker | Kamping_Kaiser: ok, I'll go check it out. | 02:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | dthacker, check ntp-server is installed and configured | 02:17 |
| Nafallo | ntp-server is deprecated package name now :-) | 02:18 |
| Nafallo | just a dummy | 02:18 |
| Nafallo | hmm, not even a dummy it seems :-) | 02:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | oh, ok. well its in dapper, which is what i'm using :| | 02:19 |
| Nafallo | I think it was rebuilt in feisty actually. so should still hold for edgy :-) | 02:20 |
| Nafallo | but in feisty it's "ntp" :-) | 02:20 |
| dthacker | will it be "backported" to edgy? | 02:21 |
| Nafallo | probably not. why? :-) | 02:21 |
| dthacker | Nafallo: It looks to me like my stock edgy install just has ntpdate, and not ntp. But I haven't done much digging yet.. | 02:22 |
| Nafallo | dthacker: edgy has ntp-server and stuff. the old packagenames. | 02:23 |
| dthacker | ah, ok. | 02:23 |
| Nafallo | apt-cache search --names-only ntp would show | 02:23 |
| dthacker | Nafallo: tnx, still learning my way around stock ubuntu-server installs. | 02:24 |
| Nafallo | np | 02:24 |
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| \sh | guys, did anybody worked with TSO on ubuntu-server (dapper e.g.) | 03:48 |
| \sh | ? | 03:48 |
| dthacker | TSO? | 03:56 |
| maswan | Theodore Ts'o? | 03:59 |
| shawarma | tcp segment offloading? | 04:01 |
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| andel7 | hi guys.... | 04:03 |
| shawarma | andel7: hello | 04:03 |
| shawarma | \sh: ^^ | 04:04 |
| shawarma | \sh: Which is it? | 04:04 |
| andel7 | i'm trying to install ubuntu server 6.06 on my HP DL360 G5 server.....after the installation is starting and i choosing my languauge and location the screen is stuck and in the 4th console i can see some kind of loop that repeating itself | 04:05 |
| andel7 | but i can't see error messages there... | 04:05 |
| shawarma | Why? | 04:05 |
| shawarma | What do you see? | 04:05 |
| andel7 | just a sec i'll write you the exact messages... | 04:05 |
| andel7 | usb disconnect adress XX...,HP virtual keyboard ...., new full speed USB device......, none of it looks like "error,fatal,panic...." | 04:08 |
| dthacker | andel7: are you using a USB keyboard? | 04:11 |
| shawarma | No idea. You might have better luck in #ubuntu. It's not really a server issue even though you're using the server edition. | 04:11 |
| andel7 | nope - the keyboard is ps2 | 04:11 |
| dthacker | andel7: any USB devices? | 04:12 |
| andel7 | the usb is pressent of course but i'm not using it .... | 04:12 |
| shawarma | andel7: Is there something like ilo in it? | 04:13 |
| andel7 | yep | 04:13 |
| shawarma | could you login to that and see it it's acting up? | 04:13 |
| andel7 | but i'm not connected through ILO | 04:13 |
| dthacker | andel7: understood. I was thinking that you had a bad USB device attached. That must not be the case. | 04:14 |
| shawarma | "HP Virtual keyboard" could be i virtual keyboard from ilo. | 04:14 |
| andel7 | ok....but i think there is no way to turn off" the ilo..... | 04:14 |
| andel7 | i feel more like a driver issue - i'll try the 6.10 | 04:15 |
| shawarma | andel7: that my not be necessary. Try logging in to it and see if it gives you any hints. | 04:15 |
| andel7 | ok | 04:15 |
| andel7 | thanks guys....i'll update you if i have any advance ( or not ) ... :P | 04:15 |
| shawarma | np | 04:17 |
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| \sh | shawarma: yepp, tcp segment offloading , via ethtool | 04:31 |
| \sh | andel7: I had the same problem with DL320s from hp.. | 04:32 |
| \sh | andel7: udev is running into an infinite loop | 04:32 |
| \sh | andel7: http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/304-HP-DL320S-and-Ubuntu-Dapper,Edgy,Feisty.html | 04:32 |
| andel7 | thanks ....i'll check this.... | 04:33 |
| \sh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/55495 | 04:34 |
| \sh | and upstream bug: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-usb-devel%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg41847.html | 04:34 |
| maswan | huh, we've hadn't have any such issues with our dl385 end dl585s though. | 04:35 |
| \sh | andel7: did you try to boot an ubuntu dapper/edgy server from cd on your machine? at my place, the 320s is locking up after finding PS/2 keyboard port... | 04:35 |
| \sh | maswan: older machines are not having this behaviour...we think it's ilo2 fault...see linux-usb-devel.. | 04:35 |
| maswan | \sh: ah | 04:35 |
| \sh | all our other hp servers (dl360g4p, dl585, bl35p class) with ilo1 are working as expected. | 04:36 |
| maswan | Ok, that's something significant to remember for us then. Is it known if dapper will get an update for this? | 04:36 |
| \sh | maswan: funny thing...sles9 kernel works ;) | 04:37 |
| \sh | maswan: read the comment on http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/304-HP-DL320S-and-Ubuntu-Dapper,Edgy,Feisty.html from steffen neumann | 04:37 |
| \sh | it looks like that it's fixed in 2.6.15-50 in experimental..not knowing if he means debian or one of BenCs private p.u.c./~benc/ archives ;) | 04:37 |
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| maswan | \sh: well, the launchpad page says "Fix Committed" | 04:41 |
| \sh | maswan: see #ubuntu-kernel | 04:44 |
| maswan | \sh: must have missed it then | 04:47 |
| \sh | maswan: it's in 2.6.15-26.47 | 04:51 |
| \sh | maswan: dapper-security | 04:51 |
| maswan | ah, so it's already fixed. good. | 04:52 |
| \sh | but not on the install media :( | 04:53 |
| shawarma | Does anyone know if the name of a mysql database is stored anywhere apart from the directory name? | 05:01 |
| maswan | \sh: We use FAI for installation anyway. :) | 05:02 |
| shawarma | I have a "backup" of a mysql db in the shape of the MYD and MYI files. A client of mine wants to access this, but I'm a bit reluctant to just put in in /var/lib/mysql under a different dirname since it's a replicated server and I wouldn't want it to mess that up.. | 05:05 |
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| \sh | maswan: we, too ;) but with a special tool for hw gathering and confiuration of our networks | 05:07 |
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| lionel | shawarma: no, it is safe to copy-paste the directory of you database | 05:09 |
| lionel | juste be carrefull if you are changing of mysql version | 05:10 |
| lionel | and with rights (user and privileges are stored in the mysql db) | 05:10 |
| shawarma | lionel: Excellent. Thanks | 05:10 |
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| \sh | maswan: it's in proposed..not -security :( | 05:23 |
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| dballester | hi to all | 05:37 |
| dballester | [OT] any link to read about administration of raw devices in ubuntu ? | 05:45 |
| andel7 | how can i load a network interface module to the installation - can u give me some url? | 05:46 |
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| mralphabet | dballester: administration of raw devices? | 05:55 |
| dballester | well | 05:56 |
| dballester | commming from redhat world, I can define relations between physical partitions and raw devices ( /dev/raw/raw1 -> /dev/sda1 for example ). Then one startup script executes the bindings with raw command | 05:58 |
| mralphabet | dballester: interesting, that's not something I've seen before | 06:00 |
| ivoks | sda1 is a raw device :) | 06:00 |
| dballester | ivoks, I know | 06:01 |
| ivoks | so, you just want to create links? | 06:05 |
| dballester | mralphabet, to get an idea http://infocenter.sybase.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.sybase.dc30119_1501/html/installnx/BEIGJJEI.htm | 06:05 |
| dballester | now seems that redhat is moving to the use of udev instead of raw command | 06:06 |
| dballester | but i was trying to look for a simple examples on how to 'do the same' under ubuntu | 06:06 |
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| mralphabet | dballester: interesting, thanks for the link | 06:08 |
| ivoks | raw /dev/raw/raw1 /dev/sda1 | 06:09 |
| dballester | you can read more about raw partitions management ( I repeat, seems to be the 'old way' now ) in any RedHat Admin pdf. Is the way thay we used to manage raw partitions for oracle datafiles | 06:09 |
| ivoks | ah.... | 06:10 |
| mralphabet | I'm still reading the sybase doc, but I have to wonder if there is really that much of a performance gain | 06:11 |
| dballester | ivoks, the 'problem' is then i need to create some type of script to manage raw partitions and convert it to ubuntu init to be launched at correct time when machine boots | 06:11 |
| dballester | mralphabet, yes | 06:11 |
| dballester | you bypass all OS filesystem management | 06:11 |
| ivoks | there is gain | 06:11 |
| ivoks | on ext3, i would say around 20%, IIRC | 06:12 |
| mralphabet | wow | 06:12 |
| dballester | yes | 06:12 |
| dballester | this is why is not strange to see oracle datafiles under raw devices on the majority of unix flavors ( even with fc storage ) | 06:13 |
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| ivoks | this brings some other issues, but, yes, it should be faster | 06:13 |
| dballester | pros: speed | 06:13 |
| ivoks | cons: no backup :D | 06:13 |
| dballester | ivoks, false :) | 06:13 |
| ivoks | hehe | 06:13 |
| ivoks | you can dd it, yes... | 06:14 |
| dballester | best way ( i'm only talking about Oracle ) : rman | 06:14 |
| dballester | the second more 'rude' is what you say, dd | 06:14 |
| ivoks | so, no bacula and other fancy stuff | 06:15 |
| dballester | rman now is the best tool to backup/restore oracle database | 06:15 |
| ivoks | but ok, this is solved on oracle level | 06:15 |
| dballester | I REALLY love bacula | 06:15 |
| dballester | despite tivoli, veritas... :) | 06:15 |
| ivoks | this is something we should think about, since we wouold love to see oracle ceritified for ubuntu | 06:15 |
| ivoks | bacula rulez. | 06:15 |
| dballester | bacula, bacula and bacula :) | 06:15 |
| dballester | but now we have 2 problems | 06:16 |
| ivoks | i will take a look at it on redhat | 06:16 |
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| dthacker | dballester: bacula won't backup raw devices? | 06:17 |
| dballester | 1 .- rman can 'talk' directly to storage device via propietary vendor library ( libobk provided by tivoli, veritas...) | 06:18 |
| ivoks | dthacker: bacula client needs to read data... | 06:18 |
| ivoks | dthacker: iirc, it can' read raw | 06:18 |
| dballester | 2.- Oracle recently presented is own enterprise backup solution ( not only related to oracle products ) | 06:18 |
| dthacker | hmmmm. | 06:19 |
| dballester | And i think that oracle will not be interested on offer rman support for bacula integration :/ | 06:19 |
| ivoks | we would love to see oracle, but not do everything to get it :) | 06:20 |
| dballester | dthacker, the 'problem' with raw partitions is that only the applications that uses this raw partition knows how the data is stored | 06:20 |
| ivoks | right | 06:20 |
| dthacker | informix has two utiliites, one of them is self contained, but the other writes to storage managers | 06:20 |
| dballester | dthacker, surely, is the only way to make some type of backup of the data stored in raws :) | 06:21 |
| dthacker | but I also doubt they are interested in writing to bacula, because IBM would rather sell TSM | 06:21 |
| dballester | of course | 06:21 |
| dballester | but it's an interesting scenario | 06:21 |
| dballester | think about a company that has been doing backups with tsm ( Tivoli ) or veritas... for several years ( > 3 ) | 06:22 |
| dthacker | like mine. Then they moved to CommVault | 06:22 |
| dballester | buying hardware, tape libraries and tapes | 06:23 |
| dballester | yes dthacker but is compatible a yerarly full backup made 2 years ago with tsm recoverable actually with CommValut or another product ? I think no | 06:24 |
| dballester | this fears a lot of companies to make a movement to adopt another solution | 06:24 |
| dballester | bacula primary target should be new backup solution implementation | 06:24 |
| dballester | it's the only way to go inside enterprise | 06:25 |
| dthacker | like my little linux universe at work (about 50 machines) | 06:25 |
| dballester | :) | 06:25 |
| dthacker | I am just underway on a bacula implementation. | 06:26 |
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| dballester | the big difference is that using bacula you will know without a doubt how is stored every single byte of your backups | 06:26 |
| dballester | dthacker, me too | 06:26 |
| dballester | and will use DVD as backup volume.. ahem... don't ask me why, i'm trying to understand it too :P | 06:27 |
| dthacker | bbl, time to beat on postfix some more | 06:27 |
| dballester | mralphabet, if actually doesn't exist something similar to rawdevices script under ubuntu don't worry, redhat is moving to udev and rawdevices will disappear http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_105_9616.shtm | 06:29 |
| ivoks | hehe | 06:31 |
| ivoks | so, redhat follows development of new technologies :) | 06:31 |
| dballester | yep :) | 06:31 |
| dballester | oracle is doing the same | 06:31 |
| dballester | moving to DIRECT_IO | 06:32 |
| ivoks | we should just write rules for udev | 06:32 |
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| dballester | raw devices seems that will die | 06:32 |
| ivoks | i don't think so | 06:33 |
| ivoks | there is no reason for it to die | 06:34 |
| dballester | ivoks, well, you will do the same with udev | 06:47 |
| dballester | and vendors are using new libaries | 06:47 |
| dthacker | should "postfix" reload pick up changes to /etc/postfix/main.cf? | 06:48 |
| dthacker | "postfix reload" | 06:49 |
| ivoks | yes | 06:51 |
| dthacker | added restrictions are not shown, Cyntaks Airer strikes again! | 06:51 |
| dthacker | ah, I see it in mail.log. pebkac | 06:52 |
| ivoks | as always :) | 06:52 |
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| dballester | ivoks, sorry, no DIRECT_IO, O_DIRECT | 06:56 |
| dballester | http://kevinclosson.wordpress.com/2007/02/23/oracle-direct-io-brought-to-you-by-deranged-monkeys/ | 06:57 |
| dballester | well i will try the udev way to bind to partitions to raw devices under ubuntu | 06:58 |
| dballester | and see if i can gain some I/O speed with vmware clients | 06:58 |
| dballester | :) | 06:58 |
| dballester | is a thest | 06:59 |
| dballester | *test | 06:59 |
| dballester | the bind will be done against logical volume :) | 06:59 |
| dballester | I tried to do the same with ORacle ASM disks and worked :D | 06:59 |
| dthacker | argh, postfix reload shows ok in the mail.log but my single change to main.cf does not show. | 07:05 |
| ivoks | dthacker: /etc/init.d/postfix reload does postfix quiet-reload | 07:08 |
| ivoks | and this is something that works | 07:08 |
| dthacker | worth a shot.... | 07:10 |
| dthacker | nope, something is borked | 07:11 |
| dthacker | I just added smtpd_helo_required = yes, but postconf -d still shows no | 07:12 |
| fabbione | dthacker: you want to talk to lamont in #ubuntu-devel | 07:16 |
| fabbione | he maintains postfix | 07:16 |
| dthacker | fabbione: tnx | 07:16 |
| fabbione | just keep the noise low because we are trying to get Release Candidate out | 07:17 |
| ivoks | hm... | 07:21 |
| dballester | yup! Cannot open master raw device '/dev/rawctl' :/ | 07:22 |
| ivoks | modprobe raw | 07:23 |
| dballester | bingo :) | 07:24 |
| ivoks | dthacker: interesting... | 07:24 |
| ivoks | this bug is in debian | 07:25 |
| dthacker | ivoks: I'm back to user error. | 07:27 |
| dballester | mmhh raw devices needs more work in Ubuntu :/ | 07:29 |
| ivoks | dthacker: check this out | 07:29 |
| ivoks | postconf -e 'smtpd_helo_required = yes' | 07:29 |
| ivoks | postconf -d | grep helo_required | 07:29 |
| ivoks | smtpd_helo_required = no | 07:29 |
| ivoks | dthacker: maybe it's on purpose... | 07:36 |
| ivoks | dthacker: i've read that 50% of MTAs don't work with postfix if that is enabled | 07:37 |
| dthacker | ivoks: I may set it to warn for awhile. | 07:38 |
| dthacker | bbl, being called to lunch | 07:38 |
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| FlyingSquirrel33 | my server is still on hoary, and when I do a apt-get dist-upgrade it doesn't add any packages. Any ideas? | 08:00 |
| ivoks | hoary is unsupported for 6 months already | 08:02 |
| ivoks | breezy is also unsupported | 08:02 |
| FlyingSquirrel33 | there's no way? | 08:02 |
| ivoks | no | 08:02 |
| ivoks | 6.06 (dapper) is supported for 5 years | 08:03 |
| ivoks | you should upgrade to it | 08:03 |
| ivoks | get a breezy install CD and upgrade to breezy | 08:03 |
| ivoks | then upgrade to dapper | 08:03 |
| dballester | see you | 08:11 |
| FlyingSquirrel33 | ivoks:great! thanks, I think I have one around! | 08:12 |
| FlyingSquirrel33 | how do I go about upgrading to breezy with the CD? | 08:23 |
| fabbione | FlyingSquirrel33: you can also upgrade from the net.. | 08:23 |
| fabbione | no need of a CD | 08:23 |
| fabbione | but for sure you need to make it in 2 steps | 08:23 |
| fabbione | hoary -> breezy -> dapper | 08:24 |
| fabbione | and breezy will be unsupported in 2 days or so | 08:24 |
| FlyingSquirrel33 | fabbione: when I do a apt-get dist-upgrade it doesn't add any packages | 08:25 |
| FlyingSquirrel33 | what am I missing? | 08:26 |
| fabbione | did you change sources.list ? | 08:26 |
| fabbione | and did you do apt-get update | 08:26 |
| fabbione | ? | 08:26 |
| ivoks | oh, then there's still time :) | 08:26 |
| FlyingSquirrel33 | fabbione: I've heard changing the sources.list breaks things sometimes | 08:26 |
| fabbione | FlyingSquirrel33: i beg you pardon? and how are you supposed to upgrade then? | 08:27 |
| ivoks | you have to change it to upgrade it | 08:27 |
| FlyingSquirrel33 | well, I'm no expert, but I've been told to use gksudo "update-manager -c -d" | 08:29 |
| FlyingSquirrel33 | and that the other is not the "correct" way. I could be wrong, | 08:30 |
| fabbione | FlyingSquirrel33: if you are on a server there is no such thing as gksudo or update-manager in hoary | 08:30 |
| FlyingSquirrel33 | fabbione: I realize that. I assumed that dist-upgrade is more or less the same. | 08:30 |
| ivoks | it is, more or less | 08:30 |
| fabbione | up to dapper dist-upgrade is good enough | 08:30 |
| fabbione | dapper -> edgy might be a bit rough | 08:31 |
| ivoks | after you change sources.list | 08:31 |
| fabbione | edgy -> feisty has the update-manager for server | 08:31 |
| ivoks | fabbione: i think he would be better of with dapper than edgy for server | 08:31 |
| ivoks | or desktop even | 08:31 |
| fabbione | but you need to change sources.list | 08:31 |
| fabbione | ivoks: for sure he wants dapper | 08:31 |
| fabbione | so do i | 08:31 |
| fabbione | my server is still on breezy | 08:31 |
| Nafallo | feisty <3 :-) | 08:32 |
| fabbione | i had no time to upgrade it in over a year | 08:32 |
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| fabbione | and i am sure it will exploit the only corner case for everything on lvm on raid that hasn't been tested in dapper | 08:33 |
| FlyingSquirrel33 | fabbione: ok, so I'll do it one step at a time and use dist-upgrade each time I change the sources.list. | 08:33 |
| ivoks | you think? | 08:33 |
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| fabbione | FlyingSquirrel33: yes... | 08:34 |
| fabbione | upgrade to breezy | 08:34 |
| fabbione | make sure everything works | 08:34 |
| fabbione | only after you upgrade to dapper | 08:34 |
| FlyingSquirrel33 | make sure everything works only after I upgrade to dapper... OK | 08:35 |
| fabbione | check at each step | 08:36 |
| fabbione | fabbione> upgrade to breezy | 08:36 |
| fabbione | <fabbione> make sure everything works | 08:36 |
| fabbione | then... upgrade to dapper | 08:36 |
| fabbione | and check again | 08:36 |
| FlyingSquirrel33 | k | 08:39 |
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| FlyingSquirrel33 | fabbione, ivoks: everything went fine with breezy, now almost everything's done with dapper except I get exit status 10 while unpacking lvm2. I tried deleting the deb so it would download it again, but it didn't make a difference. Is there a way to trouble-shoot this? | 10:43 |
| fabbione | FlyingSquirrel33: that can be several reasons.. keep it as last.. | 10:46 |
| fabbione | keep doing dist-upgrade until lvm2 is the last one left to upgrade | 10:46 |
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