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[04:16] kind of === Lameiro [n=chatzill@c95374b4.virtua.com.br] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi waves [04:20] hi bimberi [04:22] hi HedgeMage, hope you're well [04:23] yep [04:32] ello [04:36] hey! i got accepted! [04:37] for which project? === caravena [n=caravena@240-55-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [04:44] coon [04:44] nooo I applied for that one [04:44] haha, good job :) [04:45] hehhe :) but i still havent good google confirmation e-mail [04:45] haven got [04:45] but the web app says accepted [04:45] yeah I see it === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu [04:56] coon? now, I don't know, but does that follow the Ubuntu CoC?? [04:56] ;) === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #edubuntu === positro1 [n=philip@cpe-76-186-101-55.tx.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === pygi [n=mario@83-131-81-201.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [07:31] hi folks [07:34] hello pygi === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-22-82-249-67-121.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:13] hi ajmitch [08:13] how is it going? [08:13] good, just home from work [08:13] I see soc apps have been chosen, congrats [08:14] thanks ^_^ [08:16] only 1 soc project which has some overlap with what I'm doing :) [08:17] but doko knows about that & will probably make sure that there's no duplication [08:23] ajmitch, what project is that? [08:24] ldap out of the box [08:24] aha [08:24] the description reads as an FDS config util [08:24] and doko is mentor? [08:24] yep [08:25] k [08:25] so I'll coordinate with him & the student :) [08:25] I need to coordinate with much more people :P [08:33] pygi: so your soc project is basically pimping your existing code as much as possible? ;) [08:34] lol =) === lns [n=lns@75.61.204.105] has joined #edubuntu [08:45] ajmitch, ^_^ === arualavi [n=Iva@117.Red-83-33-7.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@121.Red-83-50-217.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:10] good morning === surge [n=highvolt@dsl-240-91-192.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === surge is now known as highvoltage === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [09:27] highvoltage, :) [09:27] hi mr py [09:28] ergh, why are you calling me "mr" ? :P [09:28] why are you sticking your tongue out at me! === mpytasz [n=dduck@81.219.176.64] has joined #edubuntu [09:34] highvoltage, you're evil! [09:34] if ($user == "highvoltage") libburn_stop_working; === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-240-11-154.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu [10:00] hello everyone! :) [10:01] hi rockprincess [10:01] can i somehow upgrade edubuntu edgy to kde 3.5.6 , i think it currently uses 3.5.5 [10:01] hello RichEd! [10:03] because the author of ktouch wrote a patch for me, and it seems to work only on kde 3.5.6 or above... === ogra___ [n=ogra@p548AD98E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:05] hi ogra ... i see you managed to connect [10:05] well, not really [10:05] i cnat get my real nick [10:05] *cabt [10:05] *grr [10:05] rockprincess just asked: rockprincess> can i somehow upgrade edubuntu edgy to kde 3.5.6 , i think it currently uses 3.5.5 === RichEd gives ogra's keyboard a tap [10:06] phew, thats a question for #kubuntu i guess === ogra___ is now known as ogra [10:07] ogra: i managed to upgrade my kubuntu machine to kde 3.5.6 quite easily (http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php) but will it work like that on edubuntu too? [10:08] just putting one of the links into my sources and let it upgrade?! === nrdb [n=neil@39.136.240.220.dynamic.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ukh [n=ukh@130.226.34.17] has joined #edubuntu === ukh [n=ukh@130.226.34.17] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === pranav_ [n=pranav@mnit.ac.in] has joined #edubuntu === pranav_ [n=pranav@mnit.ac.in] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === rockprincess_ [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === rockprincess_ is now known as rockprincess === pygi [n=mario@89-172-137-43.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Mez is now known as Mez|OnAir [12:09] do we have any amd64 testers here ? [12:11] heh, feisty+1 is gutsy gibbon [12:11] ogra, did you need a amd64 tester? [12:12] juliux, yup :) [12:12] juliux, yes [12:12] juliux, specifically an server or DVD tester [12:13] ogra, i will ask around if somebody has an amd64 [12:13] good [12:13] i need someone to test bug 105642 and bug 105828 [12:14] Malone bug 105642 in linux-source-2.6.20 "kernel panic starting edubuntu dvd in live mode without vesafb" [High,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105642 [12:14] Malone bug 105828 in Ubuntu "wrong keyboard layout after LTSP chroot install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105828 [12:14] ogra, ask pitt he has an amd64 [12:14] pitti [12:15] juliux, nah, he's busy with ubuntu testing [12:15] i asked doko, but he discovere43d all these weird things i cant reproduce with the CD [12:17] is this only happend on amd64? === mpytasz [n=dduck@81.219.176.52] has joined #edubuntu === SiCk [i=wakeupha@cpc2-blfs2-0-0-cust190.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === Tom47 [n=tom@unaffiliated/tom47] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [12:48] hey jsgotangco [12:48] g'day ajmitch [12:48] ^_^ [12:48] jsgotangco, ! [12:49] do we have any amd64 testers here ? [12:49] hello fellow gibbons! [12:49] i need someone to test bug 105642 and bug 105828 [12:49] Malone bug 105642 in linux-source-2.6.20 "kernel panic starting edubuntu dvd in live mode without vesafb" [High,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105642 [12:49] ogra: well let me grab the RC first [12:49] Malone bug 105828 in Ubuntu "wrong keyboard layout after LTSP chroot install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105828 [12:49] dvd hahaha... [12:50] let's see how fast my "broadband" is now [12:50] heh [12:51] the dvd is a combo of install, live and the applications disc? [12:52] yeah [12:52] and the supported seed [12:52] ok this is what you need to be tested right? === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === rock_princess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === rock_princess is now known as rockprincess [12:53] hello all! === rockprincess has an amd64 at school [12:54] rockprincess: if you have a fast connection, you can try grabbing the DVD === jsgotangco broadband in his country isn't exactly that speedy enough [12:55] jsgotangco: it's an install dvd, is it?! [12:55] rockprincess: DVDs are combinations of live, install and add-on [12:56] ogra: where's the link? [12:56] jsgotangco: cool [12:56] ogra: would "current" be ok [12:57] ahh this looks like RC [12:57] jsgotangco, not sure there were rebuilds ... if current points to 20070411 [12:57] yeah im grabbing 11 [12:58] its better to use the timestamped one, current will change if we do a rebuild ... [12:59] so if you are in the middle of a sync while we do that, it will break [12:59] lol this would take 6 hours on my side [01:00] ok gotcha [01:03] ogra: dude I don't have a german keyboard [01:04] why is that ? [01:04] :P [01:04] but you have a non english one, dont you ? [01:04] i only have en_uk and en_us [01:04] hm [01:05] that wont help [01:05] i have a laptop with korean keyboard though but 386 [01:05] well, you could use korean as install language and just pick a wrong keyboard [01:05] and after install check that its still the same wrong one :) [01:05] ahh right [01:06] hmm what needs to be tested? [01:06] bug 105642 and bug 105828 [01:06] Malone bug 105642 in linux-source-2.6.20 "kernel panic starting edubuntu dvd in live mode without vesafb" [High,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105642 [01:06] Malone bug 105828 in Ubuntu "wrong keyboard layout after LTSP chroot install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105828 [01:07] does anyone have any ideas on why my thin-clients after a successful boot, when restarted get a dhcp address, but get a problem leaving me at a b asic shell, then another restart after that, the dhcp3-server doesnt give an address at all, even though it's told to be static through MAC address... [01:08] SiCk, msells like you have a second dhcp server in the net somewhere [01:08] nope, they're connected to each other through crossover so that doesnt happen [01:08] are you on feisty ? [01:08] edgy [01:08] hmm === mpytasz [n=dduck@81.219.176.52] has joined #edubuntu [01:09] getting towards my wits end! [01:09] haha [01:09] i havent seen or heard of such a thing yet [01:10] is it worth an upgrade to feisty? , does it have updated dhcp or anything? [01:10] the other thing after the problems with the thin clients have occured, running /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart takes forever [01:10] jsgotangco: ahhhh shit, i just realized i can't test the dvd, because i still haven't got a dvd-rom drive [01:10] :D [01:11] even when it does complete, it still doesnt give an address out [01:12] back in 30, suggestions welcome from anyone! haha thanks again ogra. [01:16] interesting sched for gutsy === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p548AD98E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:45] ogra: if today's build is published, that means its ok to sync now or wait for announcement in -devel? [01:46] right [01:46] which? [01:46] as soon as you see it on the website [01:46] ahh so its built [01:46] no idea [01:46] i havent looked yet [01:46] its there [01:47] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/20070412/ [01:47] (my system is hradlocking all the time here [01:47] thats the CD [01:47] yeah i mean the CD [01:47] the DVD is not yet published [01:48] right === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-22-82-249-67-121.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:09] wahey, i've returned. === pauljw [n=paul@pool141.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:09] ogra, i've just had an idea too... do you reckon it could be a dhcpd.conf misconfiguration? [02:10] ( re: the problem i was having earlier ) [02:13] probably [02:14] paste your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to a pastebot and lets have a look together [02:18] pastebot? [02:18] :\ [02:19] paste.ubuntu-nl.org ? [02:19] try pastebin [02:20] ooh, handy. [02:20] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15206/ [02:20] that's an old-ish one.. the most recent has the device getting a static IP [02:21] hasnt changed anything though [02:22] looks fine to me ... === SimonAnibal [n=chatzill@66.244.123.100] has joined #edubuntu [02:25] the only thing i can see that might make a difference is the absence of default-lease-time etc? [02:30] nah === mpytasz [n=dduck@81.219.176.52] has joined #edubuntu [02:30] that shouldnt have any effect [02:31] was hoping you wouldnt say that.. haha [02:32] the only problem i'd have mirgrating to feisty is the custom kernel you got someone to make for me a few months back [02:33] its the only way my clients will boot because of the via eden processor in them :/ === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [02:33] just create a fresh feisty chroot parallel to the old one and check if the new kernel probably fixes that ;) [02:35] ltsp-build-client has the --chroot paramerter ... see ltsp-build-client --extra-help [02:43] think it might be easier for me to install fesity on the server too... not too bright with ltsp-build-client yet! :/ [02:44] well, changing images etc. === mpytasz [n=dduck@81.219.176.52] has joined #edubuntu [02:46] locate java' [02:46] java: not found [02:47] bad luck,we didnt install java in this channel :P [02:47] lol [02:48] and probably there is no apostrophe in the package anme either ;) [02:48] *name [02:48] ogra: can you give me something easier like "not trying to grab the latest DVD image" lol === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-29-82-248-229-8.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Mez|OnAir is now known as Mez [03:01] ogra: that is my password [03:01] wrong keyboard again [03:02] ouch, change it to ruby now or something :) [03:02] or perl :) === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [03:03] ogra, where would i get the feisty images to create this parallel chroot for the thin-client? [03:04] hmm, wait, you wont be able to in edgy ... [03:05] ltsp-build-client is only able to build backwards edgy->dapper_chroot ... [03:05] sorry that was a wrong hint [03:05] but you could try out the feisty tarball from ltsp.org for a test ... [03:05] http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/DownLoads#DownloadTarball === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [03:06] ogra: any bell or beep i can add in rc.local to know a headless server booted ok? [03:06] honk [03:06] quack [03:06] i'll see if i can manage that then [03:06] ( moo ) [03:06] aplay /usr/share/sounds/something.wav ? [03:06] moo works too [03:06] k [03:07] thats what gdm uses to play the drum sound [03:07] (indeed that needs a souncard ... else just echo -n "\a" or so) [03:07] without a heh [03:08] moo is reserved for apt-get moo :) [03:08] i tried to rob my smoothwall of its sound without success === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:12] apt-get install moo [03:12] not install [03:12] apt-get moo [03:12] apt-get install field [03:12] moo is the command ;) [03:12] cd /field/ [03:12] :D [03:12] apt-get install cow [03:13] ogra: you are scaring me [03:13] heh [03:13] cliebow Why? He's just being helpful [03:13] guess i need to do a little hacking at it.. [03:13] he Knows i will try those commands 8~) [03:13] cliebow_: don't tell me you've been using "install" this whole time? [03:14] usually insall [03:14] that's the mistake i've been making [03:14] cliebow_: "moo" is much better [03:14] is there a package moo ? [03:14] apt-moo install xxx [03:14] omg.. [03:14] no moo. [03:14] moo [03:15] nono, apt-get moo *packagename* [03:15] in hawaii it is apt-get install moo-moo [03:16] has anyone noticed the extreme amount of crap we're talking? [03:17] its pre-release time ... [03:17] thats normal :) [03:17] *shrug* file a bug ;-) === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === surge [n=highvolt@dsl-240-121-135.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === surge is now known as highvoltage === willvdl blinks [03:21] damn these alteregos [03:21] hi! === jsgotangco wonders why some commercial distros have fast servers === jinty [n=jinty@84.78.183.65] has joined #edubuntu [03:26] hi willvdl [03:26] hi juliux [03:30] ogra: im a bit confused on installing this tarball :S [03:31] untar it to /opt/ltsp ... run ltsp-update-kernels and point to it in your dhcpd.conf [03:31] then boot a client :) [03:32] ah, okay.. i thought that was too easy actually... so i didnt do it! :/ [03:32] haha [03:32] oh, and ltsp-update-sshkeys if you wnt to log in :) [03:32] logging in is handy :) [03:33] well, you look for a kernel bug :) [03:33] so i didnt know if you want to log in at all :) [03:33] good point :P [03:33] you're too smart for your own good ogra. ;) [03:34] heh === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === surge [n=highvolt@196.1.61.31] has joined #edubuntu === surge is now known as highvoltage === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [04:19] Heya === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu === tidrion [n=cescalan@mail.ogdenpubs.com] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [04:50] ogra: on feisty, it still does it :( though it booted the second time, the third time, the DHCP server isnt even responding [04:51] and even after it being called in the hard-set IP, FIDS001, it was called biglap ? that's something i can get around later though... the fact that the dhcp server isnt even responding is a bit worrying! === blitzchecker [n=blitzche@i5387C4A3.versanet.de] has joined #edubuntu [04:57] RichEd, ping === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === kmyst [n=eric@cpe-075-177-176-083.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [05:03] Hi, anybody know much about booting thin clients and dhcpd.conf? [05:04] just ask your question :) [05:06] ok basically I can't use pxlinux.0 and go that route, so the filename directive in dhcpd.conf is the bzImage for the clients...however i need to append root=/dev/nfs rw ip=dhcp and I am at a loss on how to accomplis that [05:07] nothing of that should be needed with 2.6 kernels anymore [05:08] how do you boot if not via PXE ? etherboot with floppy ? or etherboot with bootrom of the card [05:08] with a bootrom [05:09] er wait i'll be back..sorry meeting === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu [05:18] ogra, where would i find the cd live/install version of edubuntu feisty? [05:19] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/ <-server CD [05:19] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily-live/ [05:19] live ^^ === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia is now known as Burgwork === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-240-122-222.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === kmyst [n=eric@cpe-075-177-176-083.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === `mitch` [n=asdfasdf@58.69.30.215] has joined #edubuntu [05:54] Hi, anybody know how to boot thin clients without using pxelinux? I can't figure out how to append kernel options in dhcpd.conf [05:55] <`mitch`> hello guys, do edubuntu have support for a "computer science" classes? like having a C++, asm, java ide and anything more? [05:55] `mitch`: this is actually on the radar for the next version === tovella [n=ktraglin@ool-4579ba05.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:56] the toolchains are there, but not installed for sure [05:56] <`mitch`> wow, how nice.. i was expecting to have that feature.. i'd probably wait for the next release [05:57] <`mitch`> itwas probably hard migrating students to use console apps doing programming === greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:31] hi guys, anybody know dhcpd.conf and booting thin clients? === kmyst [n=eric@cpe-075-177-176-083.nc.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] [06:43] `mitch`, a GSoC project this year maybe be a testing system for python [06:43] so people can learn python [06:43] but it's not confirmed yet === tsurc [n=alistair@skegnessgrammar.plus.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:09] cbx33: pete, i heard your GCoS project was accepted?! :D [07:11] cbx33: count me interested.. === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [07:14] <`mitch`> any information in this gsoc? [07:17] `mitch`: what are you looking for? [07:18] <`mitch`> i dunno.. some *more* info about gsoc... [07:21] any one know if i'm likely to need and special tweaking for edubuntu-feisty and some HP t5725 we've just picked up. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [07:22] I'd love to really get the best out of them, like graphics.. sound.. ?Local printer support? [07:23] `mitch`: you're talking about Google Summer of Code? [07:25] ogra, rockprincess has an amd64 [07:25] juliux, i already got some feedback, seems its doko only who has these probs [07:25] ogra, ah ok [07:26] indeed any additional proof would be fine :) [07:28] ogra: shall i test the amd64 dvd version? [07:28] if you have the spare time and ressources, indeed :) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [07:42] i need to download this at night....my flat mates are complaining about the bandwidth.... [07:43] heh, yeah i can imagine [07:57] rockprincess, has it been accepted? [08:04] cbx33: may i forward you an email?! [08:04] hehe [08:04] yeh [08:04] i spoke spoke to my student [08:04] he's rather excited [08:05] cbx33: cool, what email address shall i forward it to? [08:05] ogra, do you know why there are no jigdo files for the desktop/live isos? [08:05] petesavage@ubuntu.com [08:05] juliux, nope [08:05] ogra, who should i ask? or should i open a bug report? [08:06] cbx33: pete, it's on its way ;) [08:07] cool cool [08:08] cbx33: when will this kick off? [08:09] that one is being mentored by a schooltool mentor [08:09] i see [08:10] i thought it was your project (as a mentor), though?! [08:15] no [08:15] initially the guy who I am mentoring came up with it [08:15] but there was a lot of controversy about how it would be done [08:15] so he came up with another project idea [08:15] and we ended up doing that instead === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === ere [n=ere@181.80-202-181.nextgentel.com] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia is now known as Burgwork === Burgwork [n=corey@sacc-66-78-247-43.smartcity.com] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=mario@83-131-3-81.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [08:59] anyone using edubuntu/ubuntu for thick clients? how would you set up such a solution? [09:01] ere: just install it in workstation mode === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === mcsd [n=admin@64.90.240.38] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [09:18] ere, install the normal edubuntu server, install ubuntu-desktop in the ltsp chroot, set up network authentication and pam home mounting in the client and you are done ... [09:19] oh and indeed you need to have the network auth stuff running on the server as well [09:19] Burgwork, what would he gain by installing in workstation mode ? he would need to set up ltsp manually then ... [09:20] ogra: he wasked about them [09:20] no he asked about thick clients :) [09:20] right [09:21] which is an ltsp term [09:21] which I wasn't certain if that code was production ready yet [09:21] it isnt [09:21] right [09:21] because we have no way t automatically set up network auth yet [09:21] ah [09:21] but the rest is? [09:21] but apart from that it was always ready :) [09:21] you could *do* that since breezy [09:22] well, we can chat about network stuff in sevilla [09:22] it just needs beefy clients ... but its a charm to only maintain an iamge ... [09:22] I and ajmitch will be there [09:22] yeah [09:23] or, we can kick ajmitch's ass to get it working :) [09:23] imagine to have one "golden workstation" for a 1000 computer setup ... it mounts the client image in rw mode and every change you make to it will immediately be available to everyone [09:23] btw, this kind of setup puts nearly no load on the server [09:23] you *can* actually run 1000 clients with a standard $699 server [09:24] but your clients will be as expensive :) [09:24] i really look forward to having network auth ready i'm eager to implement it like above [09:25] (since breezy already) === pygi also think we should get iscsi libburn support =) [09:25] its the thing that redhat never managed to finish ... (stateless linux) [09:26] but in a way better implementation :) === ere_ [n=ere@77.84-49-199.nextgentel.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:27] Burgwork: sorry? :) [09:29] ajmitch, Burgwork was saying he will pay you a spanish beer bounty if you finish network auth in sevilla [09:29] ;) [09:30] haha [09:30] he just expressed it differntly [09:32] well I'll be getting into seville at about 11pm on the saturday, so I'll be needing a drink or 4 :) [09:32] heh [09:32] oh good, the itinerary has changed === ajmitch was going to be leaving at 7am the following saturday [09:33] phew [09:34] now it's after lunch :) [09:34] enough time to recover from the night before [09:34] ogra: if I made more, I would pay you to do it [09:34] ajmitch, rather [09:34] Burgwork: you'd pay him to kick my ass? [09:34] haha [09:34] I have been hacking on authtool quite a bit this week, fwiw [09:34] even better [09:35] excellent === ogra has written a new ldm over easter :) [09:35] the nice small one? [09:35] yeah [09:36] as fast as gdm now ... === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [09:36] and in C istead of python ... === mpytasz [n=dduck@staticline824.toya.net.pl] has joined #edubuntu [09:40] so, there going to be a Free Edubuntu as well, ogra? [09:42] free edubuntu ? [09:43] ala gnewsense [09:43] no idea [09:43] yankin your chain :) [09:43] i'm busy enough with the current one :) [09:44] any wat to rm a folder that wont go away with rm? [09:45] rm --harder ? [09:45] (joking) [09:45] you yanking my chainds agaon [09:48] so cold here today, I need some warm spanish weather.. [09:48] hehe . mv the fool thing to /tmp..see what happens 8~) [09:48] brb === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [09:52] thast killed the little barstid [09:52] booking for home..get some wood in before it snows.. [09:55] ogra, great work [09:56] hey cbx33 [09:56] hi ajmitch [09:56] cbx33, ^_^ [09:57] hey pygi [09:57] congrats pygi [09:57] cbx33, on what? === pygi wonders [09:57] GSoC [09:57] ah, thanks :) [10:04] i hope to use edubuntu do offer some instructional help so people at a local community center. sound is working well on thin clients, but not from streaming sources like youtube. any ideas? [10:08] / #ltsp === tovella [n=ktraglin@ool-4579ba05.dyn.optonline.net] has left #edubuntu [] === tovella [n=ktraglin@ool-4579ba05.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:10] tovella: you may want a half thick solution where /usr/ and other filesystems are mounted on the clients from a filesystem on a server [10:10] that wont solve the sound output :) [10:10] tovella, which release ? [10:12] ogra: feisty [10:13] hmm ... that should work out of the box, strange ... [10:15] when did you install it ? in early development pulseaudio and pulseaudio-esound-compat was installed on the server which is wrong ... [10:15] might be that they are hogging something [10:16] ogra: let me go check the CD... it might have been from herd5. [10:16] no, just check if you have pulseaudio running :) [10:16] it should only run on the client ... [10:19]