Sanneevfreshman2025: no, you can install whatever whenever, usually12:14
mikey<-- noob12:14
mikeyyorokobi: ty12:14
evfreshman2025Okay well for some reason it wont let me install anything12:14
Yorokobimikey, everyone is a n00b at something. You're welcome12:14
evfreshman2025it says its installed, but no changes have been made12:14
mikey<-- linux nOOb in general12:15
mikeybut learning12:15
Yorokobievfreshman2025, what is installed and what changes were you expecting?12:15
evfreshman2025well i try to turn on Flash_9 and when i click install, and click on apply settings12:16
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evfreshman2025it dosent work12:16
mikeyyorokobi: trying to    install a linux media server into a windows network.  Got Samba to work, but cannot access the shares12:16
mikeyuser pass issue I suspect12:16
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Yorokobimikey, yeah, good luck with that.12:17
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mikeyI can see the share in network places, but when I click on it, I cannot get in12:17
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frojndhow can I see history of specific user on my system??12:22
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frojndhistroy of konsole?12:22
mikeyno idea m8, newbie here12:24
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TheSpunkyLobsterhey all... i was getting help using gpart earlier to try and recover a lost partition on my laptop, i've finished a scan now, and need to try and specify and then mount the partition but can't remember how to do it12:35
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Kite_DHcan somebody help me fix my java?12:43
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IrayoHow can I make Kubuntu/KDE recognize my fourth/fifth/sixth mouse buttons?12:45
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shadowhywinddoes anyone know where teh default usplash is located?12:51
decdoes anyone know how to upgrade to the new version of ubuntu that is out on beta without downloading it.12:51
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shadowhywinddec you mean without downloading the dvd?12:52
decyes without downloading the dvd12:52
Admiral_Chicagodec: see the topic12:52
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dectried to upgrade and I keep receiving an error Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)01:03
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danny500hey guy's01:09
nixternalhey, you never know, there could be some ladies here as well ;p01:09
danny500does anyone know where the save games files are for the game Wesnoth?01:09
danny500oh yeah, Heyy girls :D01:10
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danny500nixternal, you a girl?01:10
nixternalummm, sure01:10
danny500so are we alone here or something?01:10
nixternalobviously you haven't seen http://chi.ubuntu-us.org and see me talking ;)01:10
Admiral_Chicagobe careful around nixternal. he eats small children01:11
danny500I'll go check it now :)01:11
nixternalI am about 6'3 230 pounds, I would make one hell of an ugly girl01:11
nixternaloh wait, we don't have flickr up anymore on that site01:11
danny500I'm 5'10" and weigh 150 pounds lol01:11
nixternalgo to flickr and look for ubuntu chicago01:11
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leopartuxSysinfo for 'leopartux-laptop': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1.60GHz at 600 MHz (1197 bogomips), , RAM: 226/233MB, 90 proc's, 1.1h up01:12
mikeygot it finally01:12
mikeylinux and windows are now bed buddies on my net01:13
danny500your machine does 1197 bogomips01:13
mikeygawd that took all day01:13
danny500mine does 1300 and mines only a 550MHz cpu lol01:13
mikey'course I'm a bit of a linux nOOb01:13
danny500it's ok01:14
danny500we all are01:14
mikeythx all your your guidance01:14
TheDebugger1597.2 bogomips :D01:15
danny500oh nice01:15
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TheDebuggerMy Pentium M 2.26Mhz @ 798Mhz :P01:15
mikeyc-ya all later01:15
danny500551.313 MHz can't go without that extra 0.313MHz of speed lol01:16
danny500I'm thinking of over clocking this thing to551.4MHz :D01:16
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BluesKajstrange that adept doesn't see the upgraded pkges that I installed already , it's trying to "upgrade" to an older version od google earth for example  ...what gives?01:19
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:22
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Davidchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! for what libraries is talking about?01:22
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danny500yo, does anyone know anything about Wesnoth?01:29
premier_how good is dual monitor support in kubuntu?  I'm building a new compy, and last time I tried dual monitors with my current laptop it gave me all kinds of trouble01:29
SanneDavid: most likely libqt3-mt-dev01:29
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danny500yo you guy's wanna see the funniest thing ever01:36
danny500go to01:36
danny500and look at step 2301:36
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rg535748 adept updater tells me another process is using the database but I do'nt have anything else running. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?01:41
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danny500I might01:41
danny500open your task manager01:41
stdin!aptfix | rg53574801:41
uboturg535748: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:41
danny500and look for a process called synaptic01:42
danny500if thats running, kill it01:42
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rg535748give me a sec I'll try that01:42
BishiNightBirddo what ubotu said, it should fix the problem01:42
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rg535748it worked, thank you.01:44
danny500your welcome01:44
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danny500sometimes synaptic will load in the background for no reason with out you noticing and it messes with the other installers01:45
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danny500ok does anyone know where I can find the saved game files for Wesnoth?01:46
danny500MA I TALKING TO MYSELF?01:47
Kite_DHhow to get the newest java version??01:48
danny500where are the save game files for Wesnoth?01:48
stdindanny500: how is asking about games saves for Wesnoth anything to do with Kubuntu?01:49
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danny500cause it has to do with the folders within Kubuntu lol01:50
danny500and plus no one will talk in the wesnoth room cause playing the game for so long has turned off the talking part on their brain01:50
stdindanny500: it's not a kubuntu package, nor is it anything to do with kubuntu support ask somewhere else or just google it01:51
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danny500ok, well next time I ask a question I at least expect an answer like what you gave me instead of complete silence. I answer everyone in here when I can and I atleast should get the same01:52
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patehaha ^^01:53
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liamhi guys how can i check what version of kubuntu im running01:55
stdin!version | liam01:55
ubotuliam: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell01:55
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don_jr__how can I find out what version of a package I have?01:58
cblack0long-time linux user installing ubuntu/kubuntu for the first time. Using a laptop that already has a good install of suse I want to keep. I have a 5GB partition totally free that I have set aside for ubuntu. However, when I boot ubuntu installer (7.04 beta) and choose manual partitioning it oddly shows me an sda drive rather than the hda drive I am used to. This is an older laptop and definitely does NOT have a sata or scsi drive.01:58
cblack0 In addition, I do not see my existing partitions in the graphical partitioner. Does anyone have any advice or pointers? I did not find anything about this in the faq01:58
stdindon_jr__: "apt-cache policy package"01:59
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don_jr__stdin thanks01:59
don_jr__okay, dapper doesn't get upgraded packages anymore does it?01:59
stdindon_jr__: yeah it does, it's LTS02:00
don_jr__hmmm, the version I have and the only one available in the repo's I have is older than one I need....02:00
cblack0the partitioner is not showing my old partitions02:00
stdincblack0: all (ata) hard drives in feisty are handled by libata, and so are seen as scsi, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks02:01
don_jr__stdin looking at my sources.list I don't have any deb-src's listed, is there a deb-src listing for any other deb repo?02:01
cblack0I am ok with that, that isn't my main concern, just a side note.02:01
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don_jr__stdin and would that have updates in it that the others might not have?02:01
cblack0my main concern is the partitioner in step 4 after choosing manual is not showing my old partitions or allowing me to select the partition I have already created and put aside for this install02:02
stdindon_jr__: you could try adding the backports repo02:02
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don_jr__stdin what's the line to add for them? and will they ahve dapper stuff or with edgy stuff configure properly under dapper if it's only certain lib's?02:02
stdincblack0: probably better to ask in #ubuntu+1 , the feisty support channel02:02
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging02:03
cblack0doing so, thanks :)02:03
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stdindon_jr__: that page will tell you want to add, and the packages will work with dapper (as long as you add the dapper repo)02:03
don_jr__stdin okay, thanks02:04
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don_jr__stdin I got it, I appriciate the info02:05
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cheeseboyhow do i enable the installing of java?02:07
stdincheeseboy: you need to enable the multiverse repo, then install the java package02:07
stdin!java | cheeseboy02:07
ubotucheeseboy: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.02:07
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flaccidis that stil in feisty ubuntu has !baddevice02:10
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stdinflaccid: yeah, it's so wacom tablets work by default02:11
pkgravesGuys, what happens if RSYNC tried to make a copy of a file thats in use? I.E. I have Folder A and I want to back it up to Folder B, but one of the files inside Folder A is currently in use. Will RSYNC still be able to synchronize its current state to Folder B?02:11
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KanRiNiNHi.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade resulted in an error.  I tried to run sudo dpkg --configure -a but it also resulted in an error.  Any  ideas?  Packages were downloaded but cannot be installed02:13
stdinKanRiNiN: depends on the package and what the error was, also on what version of Kubuntu you are using. use the pastebin service to post the error02:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:14
BluesKajKanRiNiN, try adept , but make sure your apt sources list is upgrded to the distro you are upgrading02:14
flaccidsurely they could of done a detection script02:14
flaccidits quite unoptimised02:14
flaccidand i'm sick of getting the errors02:14
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pkgravesCan someone please answer my RSYNC question?02:15
flaccidalso networkmanager is simply wrong. it took down my net in installation and it just randomly decided to do it again then02:15
flaccidpkgraves: what if nobody can?02:16
KanRiNiNhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15143/.  BluesKaj:  I tried adept, it failed so I tried dist-upgrade, which usually works fine.02:16
KanRiNiNit seems the apt-get error is no longer in the console02:16
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KanRiNiNbut the dpkg one was so I pasted it02:16
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rg535748You ever had a question that you know the answer is probably 'no' to but you had to ask anyway... well:02:17
rg535748can I get flash player to work if I have the 64bit install of kubuntu?02:17
BluesKajhave upgraded your sources list , KanRiNiN ?02:17
stdinKanRiNiN: I've seen that error before, there is a fix, you need to purge the package console-setup (sudo apt-get --purge remove console-setup) then reinstall it (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-minimal)02:17
stdinrg535748: it *can* work, kinda02:18
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stdin!flash64 | rg53574802:18
uboturg535748: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava02:18
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rg535748stdin, I'm redirectin' all my questions to you from now on!02:19
rg535748Thakn you.02:19
KanRiNiNstdin: I'll try it.  thanks02:19
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stdinrg535748: you aren't the 1st person to ask about it :)02:19
rg535748stdin: do I need feisty for this, I'm on edgy.02:19
stdinrg535748: nope, work on edgy02:19
rg535748stdin: But you're the first person I've asked that had the answer.02:19
stdini must be just that good then :p02:20
BluesKajtake a bow stdin :)02:21
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hitmanWillyrg535748, just be advised its a pita to set up02:21
BluesKajyeah, hitmanWilly, I chickened out ...i'm running an AMD64 but I went with the x86 install02:22
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hitmanWillyBluesKaj, used to run the 64, switched over to x86 for the same reason02:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about services - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:23
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Davidsomebody here have kmediafactory 0.5.2 (deb package) ?02:23
hitmanWillyDavid, i think its in the repos02:24
stdin!info kmediafactory02:24
ubotukmediafactory: template based DVD authoring tool for KDE.. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2330 kB, installed size 5944 kB02:24
stdin0.5.1 is02:24
pkgravesWhat happens if RSYNC attempts to copy a file that is currently open/in-use? I.E. If I have dir A and dir B, and I want to RSYNC all files in dir A to dir B, but one of the file sin dir A is currently in use... what would happen?02:25
hitmanWillyahh, ok02:25
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BluesKajpkgraves, if you're just copying a file , I don't see why it won't sync , but i have no experience with that so my opinion doesn't hold much water :(02:30
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newkubuntuuserhi, can anyone help me with the installation of rubygems on feisty? i get missing packages02:37
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newkubuntuuserrdoc for example, but there are more packages missing that i need for rubygems02:37
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Admiral_Chicagonewkubuntuuser: ask in #ubuntu+1 seems like a packaging error02:38
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BluesKajAdmiral_Chicago, will ubuntu+1 be gone once Feisty is officailly released ?02:40
BluesKajerr officially02:41
Admiral_ChicagoBluesKaj: yes02:41
stdinBluesKaj: no, it will be then for feisty+102:41
BluesKajok, installing it as we speak02:41
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flacciddoesn't that just mean next version of ubuntu?02:41
roothugoalguem BR aqui?02:42
don_jr__is there a way I can tell aptitude to get the build information for something?  like aptitude build-install or something I think I've seen??02:42
flaccidstdin: i'm complaining about wacom in #kubuntu-devel02:42
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stdinflaccid: I know, I'm reading it :p02:42
flaccidnobody really cares02:42
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flaccidheh it never does02:43
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Admiral_ChicagoBluesKaj: never had a problem because I do everything the "official" way02:43
ZioN     )02:43
BluesKajit was dead in the water , flaccid ...wouldn't boot02:43
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ArtMoonikhello, I have some problems with my Feisty, konqueror and kopete don't work02:44
Admiral_Chicagono script kitties garbage, non-free drivers, nothing02:44
DrCurlI'm running feisty, since I suspend earlier today, all my kde apps became transparent. All I can see is the button and textarea. What should I do?02:44
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stdinfeisty support in #ubuntu+1 (#kubuntu-devel for KDE specific support)02:45
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flaccidi thought #kde was for #kde02:45
flaccidi mean kde02:45
BluesKajlotsa ppl on the Feisty bandwagon this evening02:45
stdinflaccid: I meant "kubuntu feisty kde specific support", but it's just quicker to say it the other way :)02:46
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flaccidonly problem is not many people say anything there02:47
stdinit's mostly Europeans in there (as kde is developed mostly in Europe) and it's late in Europe now02:48
flaccidbut ive never had any luck no matter what time of day02:49
flaccidthats ok maybe they are actually working to fix things02:50
stdinyou could ask in #kde, but 9 times out of 10 they'll tell you to ask in your diatros channel02:50
BluesKajyeah, 60 pkgs failed to upgrade02:50
mardistdin: happens to me everytime02:51
flaccidi usually have no problem with kde specific questions in #kde02:51
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vonkleistI guess this is a regular problem with feisty, but...02:52
vonkleistI can't open mp3 files with amarok02:53
vonkleistit freezes, before I can click on the "Yes, I want to install mp3 support"02:53
don_jr__libasound2 (> 1.0.11) but 1.0.10-2ubuntu4 is installed. How can I get the updated version if it's not in the dapper repos?02:53
stdinvonkleist: install the package manually02:53
cheeseboyis there a way to change my hostmask?02:53
stdinvonkleist: install "libxine1-ffmpeg" (from main)02:54
vonkleistlet me try02:54
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flaccidcheeseboy: hostmask?02:54
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stdincheeseboy: you'll have to ask a freenode staff member to give you a cloak02:54
cheeseboynot for freenode02:55
stdinfor what then?02:55
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cheeseboyanother network02:55
flacciddo yo mean subnet mask?02:55
cheeseboybut theres no other way to do it?02:55
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vonkleistir worked!02:56
cheeseboylike that02:56
vonkleistthank you stdin02:56
stdinvonkleist: no problem :)02:56
vonkleistwhat about wma?02:56
flaccidcheeseboy: thats a hostname depicted by your isp i believe02:56
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flaccidcheeseboy: to change the hostname on the box use the command hostname and update /etc/hosts02:56
stdinvonkleist: now just start moving all your music to ogg/vorbis :p02:56
flaccidand change /etc/hostname02:56
flaccidthat is of course, not dns authoritive02:57
vonkleiststdin, yes, I'm trying to, but anyway... most of devices don't have ogg support02:57
vonkleiststdin, do u know how to add wma support?02:57
stdinvonkleist: for wma (the non-drm version) install w32codecs (not in the repos) then you can play them. (and my iPod plays ogg )02:57
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vonkleisti don't have aythat much, but anyw02:58
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs02:58
cheeseboynot hostname hostmask02:58
vonkleiststdin, *your* ipod? or every ipod?02:58
stdinvonkleist: any one that runs rockbox02:58
flaccidcheeseboy: explain to me what a hostmask is02:58
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stdin!rockbox | vonkleist02:58
ubotuvonkleist: rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!02:58
cheeseboyBrownie_ [n=Brownie@c-69-248-19-223.hsd1.pa.comcast.net02:59
trprhrm. my KDE installation has a Theme Manager but i can't remember how i got it. I just set a friend up with kubuntu and he is complaining it is missing.. is there some package i need him to get?02:59
stdinflaccid: whois me, you'll see I have a hostmask cloak02:59
cheeseboyjust usin u as example02:59
flaccidoh for freenode02:59
flaccidthis has nothing to do with kubuntu02:59
flaccidcheeseboy: ask for a cloak in #freenode-social02:59
stdinflaccid: I think he wants it for another network tho03:00
cheeseboyyes another network03:00
WillLuongostdin: That makes it even less kubuntu related? lol03:00
vonkleiststdin, wow!03:00
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stdincheeseboy: you have to ask the admins from that network, nothing you can do, it's all server-side03:00
cheeseboyim on kubuntu03:00
flaccidcheeseboy: its dependant on the irc server03:01
WillLuongocheeseboy: lol03:01
flaccidfor example Austnet uses virtual world03:01
vonkleiststdin, thanks for ur help03:01
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stdinvonkleist: no problem :)03:01
don_jr__I have the most up to date package that the dapper repo's have of this libasound2 1.0.10-2ubuntu4 is installed. How can I get a further updated version? libasound2 (> 1.0.11)03:02
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stdindon_jr__: you have 2 choices. 1) download and compile a newer version (not reccommended), 2) upgrade to edgy (1.0.11-7)03:03
flacciddon_jr__: http://packages.ubuntu.com03:04
flaccidor try to install the new package manually and solve deps03:04
stdinand potentially hose your install :p03:04
don_jr__flaccid how do I try to solve deps?  I'm pretty new03:05
flaccidnot something you should be doing03:05
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WillLuongodon_jr_: it will probably be easier to just upgrade, but usually it will tell you what the dependencies that fail are when you try to install a package.03:06
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trprah. as http://jucato.org/kde/kubuntuthemes.html explains it, the ThemeManger is there, it just doesn't have a menu shortcut.. Why then does my installation have a menu shortcut? (ie what did I do and what can I have him do) .. short of having him launch kcontrol each time he wants to use it, I don't know what to do03:06
don_jr__WillLuongo yes, this libasound2 is a dependencie of something I'm trying to install and it won't install cause I can't get an updated version unless I swap over to edgy?? sheeeeesh03:06
don_jr__need to look for a version to compile then03:07
newkubuntuuserin #ubuntu+1 noone can help me, can anyone here give me a hint why i get package not found errors when trying to install what i need for rubygems? (example: rdoc)03:07
stdinflaccid: Re:#kubuntu-devel, you can always just join the kubuntu-devel mailinglist and post a message there03:07
flacciddon_jr__: this is the caveats of the debian packaging system03:07
flaccidstdin: i might have to do that thanks br003:07
stdinnewkubuntuuser: make sure you have the universe repo enabled03:08
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stdinnewkubuntuuser: and possably multiverse too03:08
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newkubuntuuserstdin: check, both enabled03:09
stdinnewkubuntuuser: well rdoc is in universe03:10
newkubuntuuserstdin: using feisty, maybe that is the problem?03:10
stdinnewkubuntuuser: I'm using feisty, and it's there03:10
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don_jr__flaccid so all of those packages are kernel specific then?03:12
don_jr__flaccid I can't just download that one package from edgy and have it work? or will that screw everything?03:12
newkubuntuuserstdin: sources.list contains "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty universe" and "sudo apt-get install rdoc" gives the error03:12
flaccidits not kernel dependant03:13
flaccidits package version dependent. probably on packages in the next version03:13
don_jr__flaccid then what would make those 'edgy' packages not work on dapper?03:13
chemicalvampnewkubuntuuser that address isnt right03:14
stdinnewkubuntuuser: "apt-cache policy rdoc" gives me this: apt-cache policy rdoc03:14
stdinnewkubuntuuser: opps, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15150/03:14
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chemicalvampclick the link... server times out03:14
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dawnhow does one mount a drive from the live cd?03:15
don_jr__how do I make a bash script to run aptitude update && aptitude upgrade03:15
stdindawn: with mount03:15
dawni tried that thru the GUi03:15
dawnwhats the cmd for it?03:16
dawnoh wait03:16
dawnI thik I know03:16
stdindawn: sudo mount /dev/(device)(partition) /place/to/mount/to03:16
newkubuntuuserstdin: ok, so what to do now? i downloaded a iso half a day ago and did a default setup a few hours ago, followed by an update via adeot03:16
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chemicalvampdawn sudo mount -t /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda103:17
stdindon_jr__: put it in a text file and make it executable, you'll either need sudo before each aptitude or run the script with sudo03:17
chemicalvampdawn BUT first.. sudo mkdir /mnt/hda103:17
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hansentwhats up people?03:17
stdinnewkubuntuuser: try changing the mirror you're using de seems to be down03:18
chemicalvampsudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda103:18
hansentI have some issues with konquoerer after upgrading to 7.10 beta03:18
don_jr__stdin I'll run the script with sudo, how do I make it executable?03:18
stdinchemicalvamp: you're assuming that the filesystem on the partition is ext303:18
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don_jr__stdin so a bash script is nothing but the commands typed in to a text file and permissions changed on it to make it executable....in theory?03:19
pkgravesWhat are the disadvantages of using DD to regularly mirror a hard drive?03:19
stdindon_jr__: you can do it by right-clicking on the file and going to the permissions tab, or "chmod +x filename" (changing "filename" for the name of the file)03:19
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chemicalvampstdin yup im assuming they want to access there linux install from cd03:20
newkubuntuuserstdin: thx, think that solved it.03:20
hansentWhen I use the "konqueror profiles applet"  Konqueror starts without an address bar.  this happens both on webrowser and file manager profile.03:20
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stdindon_jr__: as long as you run it in bash, you can add a "#!/bin/bash" as the 1st line to make sure it runs in bash, or it's a shell script, not a bash script03:20
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dawnchemicalvamp: thanks, but its not working for some reason, I did mkdir first :)03:21
chemicalvampdawn are you trying to get to a linux install?03:22
don_jr__stdin thanks03:22
stdinpkgraves: you can't (well, shouldn't) access the drive while running dd, that's about it. oh, and dd will copy the blank spaces too, not just the data03:22
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dawnno, i made a change in the modules file and kubuntu will not load03:22
dawngoes straight to busybox terminal program03:22
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flaccid!info gimp03:23
ubotugimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2891 kB, installed size 7900 kB03:23
chemicalvampok so your trying to fix it now n a live cd, hmm sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 should work03:23
dawnchemicalvamp: correct, let me try that03:23
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stdindawn: post the errors you get if it doesn't work03:24
don_jr__dpkg-reconfigure xserver   or what is the command?03:24
dawnok it mounted03:24
stdindon_jr__: you mean "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?03:24
don_jr__stdin thanks, that's it03:25
Cosmo_I'm trying to install the VPN software for my job and it is asking "What is the location of your linux kernel source?" where would this be located?03:25
stdinCosmo_: it probably wants the kernel headers, that will be "/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)/", if it needs the source, then you'll need to install (and compile) it03:26
stdinCosmo_: $(uname -r) is the kernel version03:27
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dawnok one question, in /etc/modules I have the following "ls, psmouse, sbp2, sr_mod, tun" What do each of those represent?03:27
Cosmo_stdin: how do I find what kernal version I have?03:27
hitmanWillyCosmo_, run uname -r03:27
hitmanWillyCosmo_, in terminal03:28
stdinCosmo_: uname -r, anything inside $() is a command03:28
Cosmo_oh duh, thanks03:28
dawnhey, I forgot that one too03:28
dawnthanks :)03:28
hansentI have some issues with konquoerer after upgrading to 7.10 beta03:28
hansentWhen I use the "konqueror profiles applet"  Konqueror starts without an address bar.  this happens both on webrowser and file manager profile.03:28
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dawnchemicalvamp: ok mounting worked like a charm and I edited the file back03:31
dawnlets see if it loads now03:31
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conorkirk1Ubuntu's website says to run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install KDE, but when i do this it says it cant find the kubuntu-desktop package03:32
stdinconorkirk1: make sure your sources are enabled03:33
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dawnopps stdin beat me03:33
conorkirk1sorry, I just started using this a while ago03:33
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sonoftheclayr!info kubuntu-desktop03:33
ubotukubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.22 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB03:33
dawnconorkirk1: Dont be sorry I was a newb 9 months ago :)03:33
Cosmo_hmmm it is still giving me this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15047/03:34
conorkirk1I have used linux before, but that was RedHat 7.303:34
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conorkirk1a WHILE ago :D03:34
dawnhaha, so have I03:34
dawnup to ver. 803:34
N6REJcan someone please tell me why I'm seeing this error periodically?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15152/03:34
stdinconorkirk1: check that /etc/apt/sources.list isn't all commented out03:34
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dawnok wtf, kubuntu isn't loading I keep getting this busybox thing03:35
conorkirk1The only things i commented out in that file were the universe and multiverse lines03:35
stdinN6REJ: it's normal, don't worry03:35
N6REJstdin: ok, ty.03:35
stdin!baddevice | N6REJ03:35
ubotuN6REJ: If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors03:35
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sonoftheclayrconorkirk1: have you run sudo apt-get update?03:36
WillLuongoI set my default web browser to Mozilla, but when I click links in other apps it still opens in Konqueror. Any ideas?03:37
N6REJstdin: yeah, thats what I thought it was was the stupid wacom which I don't even have.03:37
stdinN6REJ: it's enabled by default for users that can't use a mouse03:38
conorkirk1Yes I have03:38
stdinWillLuongo: how did you set it to mozilla?03:38
sonoftheclayrconorkirk1: can you find it in adept?03:38
conorkirk1and since the other package managers use apt, they dont see them either03:38
stdinconorkirk1: post the sources.list to pastebin03:38
N6REJstdin: OIC03:38
WillLuongoSystem Settings --> Default Applications --> Web browser03:38
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stdinWillLuongo: have you tried restarting the applications that open konqu, or set the default system-wide?03:39
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WillLuongostdin: i don't think so03:41
WillLuongostdin: how would i do that?03:41
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chemicalvamphow do i add paragraph like spaces into my grub boot menu?03:41
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stdinWillLuongo: you can set the default system-wide one with "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" (in konsole) and select the application you want03:41
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N6REJstdin: is a monitor depth of "24" the most you can go or is it "32"?03:42
WillLuongostdin: Thanks!03:42
stdinconorkirk1: hmm, how come you removed all the "main" ones?03:42
conorkirk1I don't remember, I think I was trying to enable universe and multiverse03:43
stdinN6REJ: I believe it's 24 ( I don't think it refers to the color depth in bits like in MS)03:43
N6REJok, ty.03:43
stdinconorkirk1: well that's why you can't install it03:44
conorkirk1So, what do you mean by removing all the main ones03:44
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sonoftheclayrconorkirk1: the main repos have been deleted, add them back again03:45
stdinconorkirk1: the lines should look like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted" not just "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy restricted"03:45
conorkirk1stdin: so, both of the deb-src and deb lines need the edgy main restricted03:46
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stdinconorkirk1: I'll show you what it needs to look like in pastebin03:47
chemicalvamphow do i add paragraph like spaces into my grub boot menu?03:48
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stdinconorkirk1: like this: http://paste.uni.cc/1447903:49
stdinchemicalvamp: you can try adding a blank "title" line in03:50
chemicalvampstdin good idea, i bet that ill work, thanks03:50
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conorkirk1stdin: thank you, i am updating apt-get to see if it finds it03:52
stdinit should do now03:52
sonoftheclayrwho was it yesterday that upgraded from dapper to feisty?03:53
conorkirk1stdin and all: thank you so much, it is unpacking right now, lets just see if it works ok :)03:53
stdinconorkirk1: should work fine, just remember to choose KDE at the login screen :)03:54
conorkirk1after it is done, can i just log out and chose the kde session, or do i need to reboot03:54
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sonoftheclayrconorkirk1: logout03:54
stdinconorkirk1: no need to reboot03:54
conorkirk1The last time i used KDE was version 3.003:54
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stdinlinux != windows03:54
conorkirk1does anybody have the kde-login sound from 3.0?03:55
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GaiaX11I am thinking in upgrading from dapper to feisty. The ubuntu official site does not recommend it. But, will it really break my system?03:55
conorkirk1true, linux !=windows, linux = awesome | 1337 | !=windows03:55
conorkirk1that was just screaming incorrect03:55
stdinGaiaX11: probably will03:55
cheeseboyim looking for a way to make a full screen app only be fullscreen on 1 monitor03:55
cheeseboyany ideas?03:56
conorkirk1oh, i have another question03:56
conorkirk1is it possible to write some sort of script that changes the screen resolution before going into a screen saver?03:56
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sonoftheclayrconorkirk1: most likely03:56
stdinconorkirk1: possible, yes. easy, no :p03:56
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GaiaX11stdin: Someone in #ubuntu+1 said that someone from here did it and was luck having problems only with X which was fixed. I am trying to identify who was the luck boy :-)03:57
stdinconorkirk1: and it'll have to be different for kde and gnome sessions03:57
cheeseboyany ideas?03:58
conorkirk1poor video card cant do screensavers at 1024x76803:58
stdinGaiaX11: it was probably because the name of the packages xserver-xorg-driver-* changed to xserver-xorg-video-*03:58
conorkirk1Nvidia GeForce 403:58
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WillLuongoWhen I upgraded to Edgy I am no longer able to select 1280 x 1024. Any ideas?03:59
GaiaX11stdin: so how will I fix this if I have problems only with X?03:59
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conorkirk1willluongo: check xorg.conf maybe03:59
Sideyi gonna feel really stupid in a room with you guys..04:00
conorkirk1I do too!04:00
cheeseboyim stupid too04:00
stdinGaiaX11: just install "xserver-xorg-video-all" (after you break it) that should do it04:00
stdinGaiaX11: if you don't mind having to reinstall, give it a go (after a backup)04:00
Sideyi need probably simple guidance. I am MS based tech. not linux based, but trying to learn atleast some linux. but hell the simple things are loosing me..04:01
stdinWillLuongo: try reconfiguring the xserver "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"04:01
Sideythere used to be options to add workgroup, see IP etc under system settings. but be damned if I can find them04:02
stdinSidey: that's because windows does things the wrong way :p04:02
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stdinSidey: System Settings -> Network Settings04:02
Sideylol.. how true.. but thats how I learned. . had to start somewhere.. just started the wrong way04:02
Arwenis it possible to set a program as fullscreen on only 1 display out of 2?04:02
GaiaX11stdin: What if I install xserver-xorg-video-all before upgrading? Is it possiblo?04:02
Sideywill look.. I got the machine here. so I dont have 2 run room to room again04:02
stdinGaiaX11: probably not, you'll end up with some weird mix of dapper/feisty packages before upgrade then04:03
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stdinGaiaX11: a good way to make help things work is to use aptitude to install ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-standard and kubuntu-desktop, those are the main packages04:04
GaiaX11stdin: So what do you recommend? Downloading the feisty alternate cd; backing up my data and install from scratch? is it?04:04
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stdinGaiaX11: install from scratch will be cleaner (and probably easier), but upgrade is possible too04:05
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Sideywell blasted anyway. looks like I got another bad cable. grr geez.. 2 in 1 week04:06
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Sidey@ 100 feet long just sucks04:06
stdinGaiaX11: I'd say do a backup and give upgrade a go, if you can't get it working, then you can install and use your backup04:06
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flaccidan apt command available to flush apt cache or downloaded packages etc. ?04:07
stdinflaccid: apt-get clean04:08
GaiaX11stdin: Thx. I will wait for stable; getting the alternate cd; backing up; give a upgrade a go and see what will happen :-)04:08
flaccidah yeah thats it04:08
flaccidsweet that freed some04:08
stdinGaiaX11: it'll give you some problem solving experience anyway :p04:08
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stdinI got 125MB in apts cache04:09
stdinthat's just the latest update04:09
stdinand mostly openoffice04:09
ChuckNorris|GODhow i can change the task bar in kde? (i want only the desktop 2 files in desktop 2  and desktop 1 files in desktop 1, not all files in all desktops!)04:10
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stdinChuckNorris|GOD: right-click the taskbar and choose "configure panel", go to "taskbar" uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"04:11
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chr1831i recently upgraded my system via apt-get and my battery manager is wacked :-\04:13
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:14
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pollyoAnyone know the proper driver for the nvidia tnt card?04:14
hitmanWillypollyo, i think thats legacy04:14
chr1831when its plugged in it shows the thunder bolt and the battery % left04:15
loco#ubuntu #ubuntu+104:15
pollyohitmanWilly: Ok04:15
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chr1831when i unplug it it shows the battery full and still with the plugged in icon04:15
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chadI am having an issue with syncing my palm calender with kontact.  If an appointment is flagged as private, it won't show up on my pilot after syncing anymore.  I can't find a kpilot setting to allow syncing private appointments back to the pilot.  Does anyone know how to fix this?04:15
hitmanWillypollyo, there's a list somewhere with all the nvidia cards and what driver they use04:16
sonoftheclayrpollyo: the tnt card uses legacy i think04:16
hitmanWillypollyo, i think i saw it on the gentoo website04:16
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sonoftheclayrpollyo: legacy04:16
pollyoOk.  Thanks for the info! BBL04:17
pollyoI'll give legecy a try and go from there...04:17
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Cosmo_I am trying to install the VPN for my job using these instructions but it keeps giving me this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15047/ can anyone help me?04:17
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philphotogot a problem: when attempting to run synaptic or adept, I get "Conversation with SU failed"04:18
philphotoany help?04:18
ubuntu_hello, I installed kubuntu a while ago but i got very angery at it because it ran VEEERY slow. MY computer is very fast and has run windows ans other versions of linux very fast. Anyone know why kubuntu is slow and how I can fix it?04:18
philphotoubuntu_: do you have an ATI graphics card?04:19
hitmanWillyubuntu_, what exactly is slow on it?04:19
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:20
unicoderI have installed kubuntu and I have sounds, beeps, and noises, but I dont have any sound on media files such as mpg, or avi's04:20
ubuntu_everything is slow, browsing the web i notice massive slownees. And when I tried to play wow my computer looked liek it was about to blow up. I had to forcfully shut it down because it was running so slow04:20
philphotoif you haven't tried that, it may be a GC issue04:20
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unicoderhow do I get newer codecs for ubuntu?04:20
philphotoanyone out there have any idea as to my problem with SU?04:21
ubuntu_it's not graphics card drivers because it's really just everything it running slow04:21
hitmanWillyphilphoto, does sudo work?04:22
chr1831any help for me?04:22
philphotolet me try in shell04:23
ubuntu_has anyone else had problems with kubuntu running slow?04:24
philphotohitmanWilly: i can run through terminal, but i'm lazy & I like things working as they were designed04:24
ubuntu_^me too04:24
ubuntu_that's why i love ubuntu04:25
philphotoubuntu_: I had some horrible problems at first.    I have an ATI GC though & that's where the problem lay with my slowness issue.04:25
hitmanWillyphilphoto, try su'ing through term04:25
ubuntu_so you just installed video card drivers and your problems were gone?04:26
philphotohitmanWilly: I can use sudo in terminal, but don't feel like running everything where I need SU in there.04:26
hitmanWillyphilphoto, just making sure that wasn't jacked, sounds like a problem with kdesu04:28
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philphotoyeah.  I'm trying to install mp3 support in amarok open as su in terminal but I got a LOT of error msgs04:29
adamtest 98704:29
philphotoa bunch of "cannot connect to x server"04:29
philphotoshould I restart X?04:30
Cosmo_I am trying to install the VPN for my job using these instructions but it keeps giving me this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15047/ can anyone help me?04:30
hitmanWillyphilphoto, try an X restart and see if that helps04:30
adamcan this software play sound ?04:30
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hitmanWillyconorkirk1, at least its not gentoo and doing a full compile04:32
conorkirk1Good point04:32
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conorkirk1I tried gentoo once04:32
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hitmanWillyi like customizing stuff, but there's a limit04:32
conorkirk1I liked the idea of a custom install04:32
conorkirk1but yeesh04:32
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conorkirk1when it asks you if you want value A in register 01xAAAE0F thats where i draw the line.04:33
conorkirk1ubuntu system update!04:33
conorkirk1It says 174 updates04:34
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conorkirk1tahts crazy!04:34
hitmanWillyconorkirk1, that sounds about right04:34
conorkirk1its KDE isn't it :D04:34
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conorkirk1sweet it opened the kde config thingy04:35
philphotohitmanWilly: you still around?04:35
hitmanWillyany luck?04:35
conorkirk1GDM or KDM?04:35
philphotocheck this out: "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 12 01:48:15 2007"04:35
ParkotronIs there an anticipated release date for Feisty more specific than "this month"?04:35
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sonoftheclayrParkotron: april 1904:35
hitmanWillyphilphoto, ah hah, ive seen this before, its a clock problem04:36
philphotoI don't know how my system got that far ahead.  how do I change the main clock to get it synchro'd with the rest of the world?04:36
sonoftheclayrphilphoto: pfft...that was nearly 12 hours ago! your living in the past man!04:36
conorkirk1OpenOffice is HUGE04:36
hitmanWillyphilphoto, is your clock set to local or UTC?04:36
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Parkotronsonoftheclayr: Thanks. Where'd you find that? I was poking around a couldn't find it anywhere.04:36
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sonoftheclayrParkotron: i know soe people who know some things04:37
philphotoshould be set to local.  the desktop is set to local, but apparently the main clock is set to utc04:37
Parkotronsonoftheclayr: Oh. So I'm supposed to take your word for it? ;)04:37
sonoftheclayrParkotron: yep, if you want i can give you a web address04:38
hitmanWillyphilphoto, the system clock may be set to local, but the system probably thinks its set to UTC04:38
philphotohow do I remedy this?04:38
sonoftheclayrParkotron: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn it's right up the top, in bold04:38
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hitmanWillyphilphoto, there's a config file for it, hold on a sec while i find it04:39
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Parkotronsonoftheclayr: Ah, the wiki. I should of thought of that. Thanks again.04:40
luke-jr_workKubuntu 7.04 does a kernel panic on boot; anyone care?04:40
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sonoftheclayrParkotron: np04:41
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conorkirk1stdin: Specs of your computer?04:41
stdinSysinfo for 'home': Linux 2.6.20-13-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz at 2800 MHz (5604 bogomips), HD: 107/147GB, RAM: 1477/1511MB, 182 proc's, 4.12d up04:41
annieeis there any way to get SB x-fi working in kubuntu??04:42
conorkirk1stdin: what command gave you that?04:42
stdinconorkirk1: /sysinfo04:42
stdinconorkirk1: in konversation04:42
conorkirk1for me right now is is Gaim04:43
conorkirk1still installing KDE :)04:43
conorkirk1no such command04:43
stdinXChat does it too (IIRC)04:43
conorkirk1stdin: ill just post it04:43
sonoftheclayrconorkirk1: you mean Pidgin04:43
Jucatoconorkirk1: it's a script in Konversation (/sysinfo)04:43
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conorkirk11GHZ PowerPC G4, 256MB ddr sdram, nvidia geforce 4 (32mb) 80 gig Hard drive04:44
sonoftheclayrluke-jr_work: you might have more luck in #ubuntu+104:45
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conorkirk1sometimes people disconnect with a message "Poof!" do you just do this with /quit message04:46
stdinCosmo_: still about?04:47
crazy_buscan anyone help me fix dpkg/apt .  I get this error in the terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15157/04:47
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stdinconorkirk1: yeag, something like "/quit Poof!"04:47
conorkirk1sounds fun :)04:48
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philphotohitmanWilly: any luck with that config file?04:49
Cosmo_stdin: yeah sorry was messing about04:50
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sonoftheclayrdoes anyone else think the kubuntu website needs an overhaul?04:51
stdinCosmo_: I think it's just failing to compile the module, which is ok because ubuntu already has it04:51
Cosmo_getting lost in all the customization available in kubuntu =)04:51
stdinCosmo_: so all you need is to make the binaries executable and add an init script (which I've "debianised" for you)04:52
philphotorestarting X again, i think I found something.04:52
philphotoback in three shakes04:52
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annieeanyone here using amd64 version of kubuntu?04:54
Cosmo_stid so how do I go about doing that? if you mean the file I downloaded from citrix I already checked the box that says executable04:54
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stdinCosmo_: no,try this, "sudo chmod +x /usr/sbin/net6vpnd" then save this as /etc/init.d/net6vpnd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15160/04:55
philphotodang.  "su returned with an error"04:55
hitmanWillyphilphoto, sorry, kubu's different from my old distros, no joy04:56
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philphotoah man.04:56
philphotoI just finished this install of edgy after two days of fighting with feisty.04:56
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philphotoshe was just too buggy & it wound up that my comp would just freeze in all apps after about 4 minutes.04:57
sonoftheclayrParkotron: you had a bad run with feisty, it runs perfectly for me04:57
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sonoftheclayrphilphoto: ^^oops04:57
philphotohitmanWilly: what I'm looking for is not a clock fix so much as a su fix04:58
philphotosonoftheclayr: no problemo04:58
hitmanWillyphilphoto,well, the clock is what's messing up the su04:58
philphotoI was not having any luck getting my two film scanners to work either.04:58
sonoftheclayrphilphoto: you could try to change the time in the bios04:58
sonoftheclayrand then you would have to change it in kubuntu...04:59
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hitmanWillyphilphoto, does the kubuntu clock show the right time?04:59
Cosmo_I'm going blank what is the command to make a file in the terminal?04:59
philphotowell, I have a dual-boot machine so if I mess with bios, I mess with XP (yuk!) as well04:59
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stdinCosmo_: then make /etc/init.d/net6vpnd executable with "sudo chmod +x  /etc/init.d/net6vpnd" (change /etc/net6vpn.conf if you need to) and run "sudo  /etc/init.d/net6vpnd start"05:00
philphotohitmanWilly: the desktop clock shows the right time, only because I set it that way after I saw it was incorrect.05:00
philphotoI guess that was what messed it up.05:00
stdinCosmo_: touch/nano will do it05:00
hitmanWillyphilphoto, try setting the clock back to where it was before05:01
hitmanWillyphilphoto, then you can set your timezone to UTC to show the correct time05:01
stdinphilphoto: "sudo -K" resets the sudo timestamp05:01
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jmichaelxSysinfo for 'pentium3': Linux 2.6.20-14-386 running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) at 997 MHz (1996 bogomips), HD: 44/92GB, RAM: 204/249MB, 125 proc's, 4.41h up05:02
hitmanWillydamn, forgot about that one:)05:02
stdinjmichaelx: why do you have the 386 kernel on a P3?05:02
philphoto"sudo -k" not working.  nothing needing su is working.05:02
philphoto"su returned an error"05:02
hitmanWillyphilphoto, capital K05:03
stdinphilphoto: sudo -K shouldn't need su05:03
jmichaelxstdin: i must have accidentally booted into that kernel instead of -generic when i last rebooted05:03
philphototimestamp still too far in the future05:03
annieeso flash and java dont work on amd64 version of kubuntu or ubuntu05:03
stdinjmichaelx: I find -generic *much* faster05:04
stdinanniee: not "officially" no, but there is a way05:04
philphotoI used a caps K.  no luck05:04
stdin!flash64 | anniee05:04
ubotuanniee: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava05:04
jmichaelxstdin: interesting.... i do use generic generally, this time i didn't pay attention when i rebooted05:04
hitmanWillyphilphoto, reset the clock then05:05
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nonudastdin: hi..how r u? long time not see ;)05:05
philphotowhich clock?05:05
stdinnonuda: hey :) works been a b***h recently :p05:05
philphotoor, I mean, HOW?05:05
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philphototime changes need SU05:05
hitmanWillyphilphoto, set your timezone to UTC, then change your time to the correct one05:06
stdinphilphoto: tried rebooting recently?05:06
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philphotoI can do that too.05:06
Cosmo_stdin: it says Starting Net6 VPN Daemon: start-stop-daemon: option requires an argument -- d05:06
stdinhitmanWilly: think he's saying you need to be su to change time05:06
philphotoI've restarted x server a few times with no luck05:06
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hitmanWillyoh yeah, duh...05:07
stdinphilphoto: not x server, a reboot05:07
stdinCosmo_: ahh, hold on :)05:07
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philphotoyeah, I can't do anything with the clock settings.  I get: "SU returned an error"05:07
philphotoright.  reboot coming up05:07
philphotosee you in a few.05:07
hitmanWillyphilphoto, sorry, forgot that one05:07
stdinCosmo_: this one should work http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15161/05:08
annieehas anyone actually goten that to work?05:08
stdinhitmanWilly: the sudo timestamp is stored on /var/run and that's a tempfs mount, so reboot should remove it05:08
stdinanniee: yeah, loads of people05:09
hitmanWillystdin: thanks, new knowlege point to remember05:10
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Pollywoganyone know how to delete icons created by the network folder wizard or knetattach?  I am unable to delete them, the menu does not offer a delete option05:12
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Cosmo_stdin: now it says Starting Net6 VPN Daemon: /etc/init.d/net6vpnd: line 52:  6609 Segmentation fault      start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile --pidfile $lockfile --make-pidfile --exec $binary -- -d05:15
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stdinCosmo_: well that's something I can't help with, it means that the application is crashing when it's being run05:16
Cosmo_hmmm, well thank you for all the help05:17
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stdinCosmo_: apparently the application doesn't support debian/ubuntu, notmuch you can do there05:17
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philphotostdin: reboot worked so far.05:18
stdingood :)05:19
philphoto "sudo -K" worked.  well, I don't know what it did, but I didn't get shut down05:19
philphotonow to try synaptic.05:19
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philphotosweet!  it works now.  good old ON/OFF switch05:20
hitmanWillyphilphoto, thanks to stdin, i now know that the timestamp is stored on a temp fs, which is why that worked05:21
philphotoso timestamp is reloaded with each reboot?05:22
philphotoit's just a running temp file?05:22
hitmanWillyphilphoto, yes05:22
hitmanWillyphilphoto, yup05:22
Cosmo_hmmm thought I downloaded the one for debian, let me check05:22
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philphotois that a feature?  or is it just an incidental way that Linux does things?05:23
hitmanWillyphilphoto, its just the way linux does stuff05:23
stdineverything in /var/run and /var/lock are on tempfs (some other things too)05:23
stdinand it is by design05:24
stdinsome other distros don't do it like that05:24
stdinbut they suck :p05:24
philphotowhat is the design feature?  I mean, the WHY to why it's done that way?05:24
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pestilencedoes anybody know why sounds don't work in evolution in KDE?05:25
hitmanWillyphilphoto, probably so you can fix it like you just did:)05:25
stdinbecause if you crash, having things still in /var/run and /var/lock can cause some major problams05:25
philphotoyeah, that may have been a fatal error in winxp05:25
philphotogot it.05:25
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stdinthe "win" part in winxp is fatal :p05:26
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philphotooh, that I know05:26
conorkik1using KDE!05:26
philphotoover the next few days, I want to get vuescan up & running05:26
hitmanWilly!info vuescan05:27
philphotoonce that's done & I know I can do it on a stable build (I couldn't in feisty to save my life) then win is gone forever05:27
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ubotuPackage vuescan does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:27
conorkik1Sysinfo for 'ckirkpat-desktop': Linux 2.6.17-10-powerpc running KDE 3.5.5, CPU:  at 0 MHz (82 bogomips), , RAM: 246/249MB, 88 proc's, 1.2d up05:27
stdinconorkik1: cpu at 0 MHz? :P05:28
hitmanWillyconorkik1, ps3?05:28
conorkik1but I am on a PowerPC chip05:28
conorkik1Running on an iMac G405:28
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hitmanWillyah, don't know anything about those :)05:28
stdinapple do make some messed up hardware05:29
hitmanWillywtf is a bogomip?05:29
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conorkik1stdin: My computer is a dome with a swivel flat panel on a silver pole like thing05:29
Dodger73hi all05:29
stdinhitmanWilly: basically it's the amount times a CPU can do nothing per second :p05:30
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Dodger73any hardware/driver gurus around?05:30
hitmanWillystdin: gotcha05:30
conorkik1I am kinda a Hardware guru05:30
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stdinhitmanWilly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BogoMips :)05:30
kamuineed help please05:30
kamuiI installed edgy again today05:30
kamuieverything orked great until I upgrade05:30
kamuinow my sound is gone05:31
Dodger73conorkik1: great, i've got a prototype-ish 'webcam' here that i got today and i was wondering if anyone could help me try to get it to work :)05:31
kamuihow can I troubleshoot a sound driver issue?05:31
Cosmo_stdin: I found a list of clients, should I get the x86 client or the x86 client - requires OpenMotif 2.2.x or do you know?05:31
philphotokamui: which upgrade was the problem?05:31
kamuiinstalled edgy, and after upgrading all packages using distupgrade05:31
kamuinot to feisty, but just updated my software05:31
hitmanWillyok, that was interesting05:31
philphotoso now what's not working?05:31
stdinCosmo_: the x86 client or the x86 client? am I reading double?05:32
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Cosmo_stdin: the second option is x86 client - requires OpenMotif 2.2.x05:32
kamuiphilphoto: no sound comes out of my laptop05:32
kamuiI can raise the volume and I see the bar move05:32
kamuithe device seems to exist, but I get no actual sound05:32
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conorkik1a hardware question would have been how to plug it in05:33
conorkik1so no05:33
stdinCosmo_: get the one that doesn't require OpenMotif05:33
philphotodriver issue.  well, perhaps.05:33
kamuiI had great skills debugging oss, but alsa is almost a total mystery to me05:33
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Dodger73ah ok... well nevermind :)05:34
Dodger73thanks anyway conorkik105:34
CashValentine[feisty]  If dvd is in drive during bootup, then normal user cannot eject.  Must sudo eject.  WTF! Help05:34
geraHola que tal!!!05:34
geraLogre hacer andar mi modem USB con Kubunto!!!05:35
Dodger73so, any takers for some experiments with a new webcam? :)05:35
ubotuesd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead05:35
philphotoI know nothing about also, sorry.05:36
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philphotoalso, my spelling bad...05:36
philphotoalsa...   ok, time for bed05:36
CashValentineWhere do you go to get help wih Ubuntu.  This  looks like just a webcam/show-your-pee-pee forum.05:36
philphotoha ha ha ha ha ha05:36
conorkik1ha ha ha05:36
pestilenceCashValentine: #ubuntu05:36
luke-jr_worklet's see if 6.06 is better05:36
pestilencethis is #kubuntu ;)05:37
philphotolet me show you my kernel05:37
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Dodger73i'm just trying to get this damn thing to actually be recognized by the system05:37
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Dodger73and i never showed my pee pee to any strangers05:37
CashValentinepestilence: thx, i'm outa here.  Y'all have fun trading shots of your weeners.05:37
conorkik1try dmesg in konsole05:37
pestilenceCashValentine: and for problems with feisty, you want #ubuntu+105:37
nonudastdin, it seems that i have a lot of progress on linux..hehe ;) (i have installed kubuntu on 4 pc, setup networking, internet sharing etc infact i ablle to run my office windows programs on it))05:38
stdinCashValentine: read the code of conduct05:38
conorkik1Dodger73: try the command dmesg in Konsole05:38
CashValentinestdin: wtf!05:38
stdinnonuda: cool, you'll be a guru before you know it :)05:38
kamuipardon my language05:39
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Dodger73conorkik1: tried that, i get 'usb 1-3.11: can't read configurations, error -71'05:39
conorkik1kamui: pardoned05:39
stdinCashValentine: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct05:39
conorkik1Dodger73: lspci05:39
conorkik1in konsole05:39
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Dodger73lspci gives me all my pci devices ;)05:40
nonudastdin: heh i hope so, right now i'm working on networking respository, hmm its quiet hard05:40
CashValentinestdin: get a life.05:40
Dodger73lsusb gives me a bunch of other devices, and three unidentified ones05:40
conorkik1Dodger73: ask stdin05:40
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Dodger73with ID 0000:0000, 1415:4000 and 0000:000005:40
stdinnonuda: yeah, I was going to have one of those, but it was easier just to copy the files over :p05:41
Dodger73conorkik1: ask stdin how?05:41
stdinask me what? :P05:41
conorkik1Dodger73: stdin is a person05:41
conorkik1not a command05:42
trprstandard input ;)05:42
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luke-jr_work6.06 actually boots!05:42
stdinI live in /dev05:42
Dodger73so stdin, any idea about getting this webcam to work?05:42
stdinDodger73: what webcam is it?05:42
Dodger73it's a PS3 HD eyetoy05:43
stdinCashValentine: version05:43
Cosmo_how do I run a .tar.gz file?05:43
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stdinCosmo_: decompress it, with ark05:43
kamuiyou don't05:43
CashValentinestdin: WTF!05:43
TheDebuggerYou can't run it, it's like a .zip05:43
TheDebuggerAn archive05:43
stdinCashValentine:  [CTCP]  Received Version request from CashValentine.05:43
kamuitry tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz05:44
stdini'm not blind05:44
TheDebuggertar xvzf thefile.tar.gz05:44
kamuithat extracts to the local dir05:44
conorkik1i got xkill happy05:44
CashValentinestdin: WTF again05:44
conorkik1kinda sorta clicked on my clock05:44
Dodger73stdin: i tried the ov511 driver, but it doesn't seem to work with this one05:44
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conorkik1how do I get it back?05:44
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luke-jr_workword: lagged?05:45
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conorkik1How do you start the taskbar05:45
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nonudastdin: ah i see, right now i do that, but if u have a lot of file to installed, i guess it will takes much time..do u know this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal , i manipulate the local directory as mounted shared folder05:46
pranav_luke-jr_work: ??05:46
Dodger73stdin: and obviously, a google search didn't produce much of anything ;)05:46
luke-jr_workpranav_: ???05:46
pranav_luke-jr_work: I got a ping request from you??05:46
luke-jr_workpranav_: no, your client did05:47
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pranav_luke-jr_work: probably!!05:47
pranav_luke-jr_work: sorry for the disturbance05:47
stdinDodger73: can't find anything on it, if there is a driver, it's burred somewhere out there in the web05:48
Dodger73i could take it apart to see what the chip in it is05:48
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conorkirk1I Xkill'ed my taskbar05:49
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conorkirk1then accidentally minimized konversation05:49
conorkirk1so then I xkilled my desktop05:49
Dodger73i'm pretty sure there's not a driver for it yet ;)05:49
conorkirk1then i hit a bunch of random butttons05:49
conorkirk1and got to my login screen05:49
Dodger73well, at least not for this specific camera05:49
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conorkirk1look at the bottom of the camera05:50
conorkirk1look for SCPH05:50
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Dodger73it says it's manufactured by Namtai in agreement with sony computer entertainment america, europe and japan05:50
Dodger73that's it05:50
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hitmanWillyugh, sony05:51
Dodger73the camera is wild... it's got four microphones builtin for some reason05:51
sonoftheclayrmy horoscop says something is going to change on or around april 19 for me...if there some great new feature in feisty that isn't there already?05:52
Dodger73and something that looks like an IR emitter diode to me05:52
CashValentinewell, nobody helps over at #1 either05:53
CashValentinesad sad sad05:53
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DaSkreech_nikkiana: hello06:00
pagan0neanyone have any idea how to remove the white outline around the text on desktop icons?06:00
nikkianahi DaSkreech_06:00
DaSkreech_nikkiana: How are you?06:00
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nikkianaDaSkreech_, doing pretty well06:00
DaSkreech_nikkiana: groovy06:01
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CashValentinewhy does kubuntu-desktop package install a bunch of terrorist ttf fonts by defaults?  Seems like the terrorist fonts should be OPTIONAL.06:02
MetaBookfoziSthe same here, i can'T understand that:)06:02
MetaBookfoziSand that fonts near ~50-60mb06:02
pagan0neanyone know how to remove that white outline from text displayed below desktop icons?06:03
MetaBookfoziSwith chinese and japan and other fonts06:03
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MetaBookfoziSpagan0ne > rightclik on desktop -> configure -> and in that window at rightside iirc is there an other settings button06:03
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pagan0neMetaBookfoziS: thanks!06:04
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underdog5004how can I get my dns settings to stick?06:05
soldierboyanyone else having problems with Feisty usplash? It won't display for me, tried all the usual suspects06:05
underdog5004how can I get my dns settings to stick?06:05
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kamuiok, I feel generally retarded06:05
underdog5004(sorry if that's a repeat)06:05
kamuiIm here tryin to recompile the damn kernel to get sound working06:05
kamuiturns out after the upgrade, it just turned the sound WAY down on my system (the pcm channel)06:06
soldierboy(kamui) good luck mate, that's no easy task, I attempted and failed06:06
jttunderdog5004: one way is to have an rc script do it after boot06:06
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DaSkreech_kamui: Should have read !sound06:06
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:07
underdog5004jtt, no, I mean in the same session. I go into network settings, change it to openDNS, click apply, but when I go back, it's back to my gateway ip...06:07
kamuiyea, should have06:07
underdog5004my isp has a terrible DNS server06:07
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DaSkreech_First thing is .. is the sound turned down?06:08
kamuiI checked that06:08
kamuiI didn't check the alsa mixer06:08
kamuithat was the problem06:08
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DaSkreech_Oh well to a geek sound turned down means alsamixer :-)06:08
jttunderdog5004: i occasionally hav dns problems so i copied them to a file and just copy them to  /etc/resolv.conf when I have problems dont know if you want to do that06:09
DaSkreech_Like starting the OS means grub06:09
nonudahow do i check an open port?06:09
underdog5004hmm, no other help? bummer06:09
underdog5004jtt, any downside?06:10
mardii always edit /etc/resolv.conf to change dns servers, no biggie06:10
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jttunderdog5004: my wireless router from time to time decides to not serve up the dns info witht the dhcp call so i just rewrite /etc/resolv.conf  no down side06:11
jttunderdog5004: in fact i play that game in motels all the time when i travel and use Bell South resolvers  works greate06:12
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keisangihi there06:13
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microphone_not_wmy mic not working in kubuntu06:13
microphone_not_w cannot voice chat with relatives who make fun of kubuntu06:14
microphone_not_wits causing public emabaaressemnt to me06:14
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microphone_not_wdont know how time it will take fic mic bug06:14
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DaSkreech_microphone_not_w: Did you check to see if alsamixer has it muted in input?06:14
keisangii have some problem with cron .. i'm using kubuntu .. and i'm new with cron .. i tryed to setup a small cron job to test, in /var/spool/cron/crontabs i created a file named "root" and the content is as follow :  * * * * * /bin/echo "foobar" >> /file_you_own06:15
keisangiand then i restarted crond06:15
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keisangiso it should execute that command every minute .. but nothing happen ?06:15
nixternalactually wouldn't that just execute on startup?06:16
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DaSkreech_keisangi: you can make /file_you_own ?06:16
DaSkreech_don't you mean ~/file_you_own06:16
keisangiDaSkreech_: yes, i have root access .. i create the file now06:16
DaSkreech_Which is still pretty bad06:16
nixternalthat it is06:17
microphone_not_wi have used alasmixer and kmix nothing helps06:17
microphone_not_wi have used alasmixer and kmix nothing helps06:17
microphone_not_wi have used alasmixer and kmix nothing helps06:17
keisanginixternal: from the tutorial i'm reading:  * * * * * is supposed to execute every minutes ..06:17
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nixternalkeisangi: I apologize, you are correct06:18
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nixternal0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 000 0 00 0 00 0 is what I was thinkin' ;p06:18
nixternalerr, there would be a 1 in there06:18
dsmith123just for clarification, if I remove my home/user folder and put it on a clean install will the majority of things worrk?06:18
Arwengah, my sound card just stopped working!!!! and it was working 20 minutes ago!06:18
Arwenwhat happened?06:18
keisangiDaSkreech_: i created the file, but it's still 0 in size .. nothing happen06:18
Arwensomeone please help!06:18
keisanginixternal: np, thanks for your help btw06:18
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DaSkreech_keisangi: you set the crontab as root"?06:19
DaSkreech_Arwen: gremlins!06:19
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Arwendamn it, my computer's useless without sound06:19
dsmith123no, Microsoft butterflies06:19
keisangiDaSkreech_: i created a file named "root" in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/  containing the following:  * * * * * /bin/echo "foobar" >> /file_you_own06:19
Arwenspeaking of MS, it still works in windows..06:19
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luke-jr_workeven 6.06 is buggy as heck!06:20
matthew_damn it, my computer's useless without reliable internet access06:20
microphone_not_wi have used alasmixer and kmix nothing helps06:20
microphone_not_wi have used alasmixer and kmix nothing helps06:20
microphone_not_wdont know how time it will take fic mic bug06:20
microphone_not_wits causing public emabaaressemnt to me06:20
microphone_not_w cannot voice chat with relatives who make fun of kubuntu06:20
dsmith123wow channel is hopping tonight06:20
microphone_not_win windows it works06:20
DaSkreech_microphone_not_w: ok. calm down06:20
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microphone_not_wpl take this bug as top priority06:22
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tinyxHow do I convert .mp3 to .ogg?06:23
microphone_not_wmy computer is usesless with mic06:23
DaSkreech_microphone_not_w: not the right channel for this06:23
microphone_not_wwhat is dev channel06:23
DaSkreech_microphone_not_w: #ubuntu-devel06:23
DaSkreech_tinyx: Why would you want to do that?06:23
sonoftheclayr!info mp32ogg | tinyx06:23
ubotutinyx: mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-7 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB06:23
tinyxBecause I can't get amaroK to play my MP306:24
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DaSkreech_!mp3 | tinyx06:24
ubotutinyx: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:24
tinyxI've tried..06:24
sonoftheclayrtinyx: have you installed libxine-extracodecs?06:24
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tinyxNo, I couldn't figure out how06:25
sonoftheclayr!info libxine-extracodes06:25
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ubotuPackage libxine-extracodes does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas06:25
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DaSkreech_tinyx: can you post your sources.list ?06:25
DaSkreech_!paste | tinyx06:25
ubotutinyx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:25
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sonoftheclayrtinyx: you need multivers enabled06:26
tinyxHow do I go get the sources.list and the multivers?06:26
aneeshi...I m installing a php project but it gives me an error. Error: 'gd' extension is not loaded... anyone help me plz how i can solve this problem06:26
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DaSkreech_tinyx: the sources.list is at /etc/apt/sources.list06:27
DaSkreech_anees: what's gd?06:27
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aneesmay be it is any php extension06:27
tinyxIt says permission denied06:27
DaSkreech_anees: I'm guessing06:28
marditinyx: i'm no guru in any way, but i'd do 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list06:28
aneeswhat is the solution06:28
DaSkreech_tinyx: do you have the pastebin site open?06:29
DaSkreech_anees: Well i guess first is to find out what it is06:29
tinyxyes i do06:29
DaSkreech_I'm guessing a gd extension to php06:29
DaSkreech_tinyx: ok press alt+f206:29
aneesyes..u r right06:29
DaSkreech_tinyx: in there type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:29
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DaSkreech_anees: if you can find out it will probably have instructions to install06:30
mardiooh kate :p06:30
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DaSkreech_tinyx: copy the contents of that file into the pastebin site and give us the URL it gives you when you click paste06:30
DaSkreech_way ahead of me :)06:31
aneesi m installing www.activecollab.com06:31
aneesit don't have enought help06:31
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mardiabortd: nano is a simple CLI text editor06:32
tinyxDid you see the link I posted?06:32
DaSkreech_tinyx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15172/06:32
DaSkreech_replace the contents of the file with that06:32
DaSkreech_copy that page and paste it over what you have open06:33
aneesDaSkreech_:  plz check this link...someone also faced this issue....http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-273570.html06:33
DaSkreech_save it and press reload in adept06:33
tinyxI saved it06:34
DaSkreech_tinyx: press alt+space06:34
DaSkreech_type adept -> press enter -> enter password06:34
DaSkreech_tinyx: click reload06:34
ScottLij__where is the kernel source that I just downloaded form Adept?06:34
tinyxwhere is reload?06:34
DaSkreech_It's a green button I think06:35
tinyxFetch updates?06:35
DaSkreech_ I have it mapped to F5 I never look at it again06:35
DaSkreech_ yeah that one!06:35
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DaSkreech_anees: http://www.php.net/gd06:35
tinyxok i clicked it06:35
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tinyxit finished06:36
DaSkreech_tinyx: search for libxine-extracodecs06:36
tinyxwhat is alt+space by the way?06:36
Jucato!katapult | tinyx06:36
ubotutinyx: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.06:36
DaSkreech_Jucato: pimp hater06:36
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DaSkreech_Jucato: I never look at it06:37
DaSkreech_ I just press F506:37
DaSkreech_Should be on by default :-P06:37
tinyxoh cool06:38
aneesDaSkreech_: thanx...budy06:38
DaSkreech_tinyx: it's there now06:38
DaSkreech_abortd: thanks :)06:39
aneessorry...it was buddy06:39
blekoscould somebody tell me where are the icons of open office located? somehow my openoffice doesnt have them (e.g instaed of having the "b" icon for Bold, i have the whole world "Bold" etc)06:39
abortdfor what?06:39
aneesanyway thanx...06:39
aneesu r gr806:39
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abortdok anees lay off the gayness a bit06:39
abortdatleast type a few full words06:39
DaSkreech_abortd: Agree with the anti-aolness but let me wallow in praise for a bit :)06:40
abortdand not stuff like u r rxr mn omg06:40
aneeshehehehe..abortd...i m not gay...infact DaSkreech_ is my teacher as i learn something from him06:40
abortdhehe ok06:40
abortdi know thats cool06:40
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abortdnever said you were nor is it a bad thing but type full words :) turn u r gr8 into "u are great*06:41
DaSkreech_anees: yeah that's good advice. You just learnt from abortd  as well06:41
abortdso im your teacher :D06:41
tinyxlol okay thanks..06:42
DaSkreech_tinyx: works now?06:42
tinyxI am about to test it06:42
abortdwhy am i getting no sound from mpg files?06:43
aneesabortd: you won06:43
tinyxIt won't play06:43
DaSkreech_abortd: Probably don't have the right codec installed06:43
abortdwhat codec do i need?06:43
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DaSkreech_tinyx: Did you close and reopen amarok?06:43
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abortdi am my own teacher now!06:44
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DaSkreech_tinyx: and you installed libxine-extracodecs ?06:45
abortdsomeone ping me please06:46
DaSkreech_abortd: pong06:46
DaSkreech_tinyx: that's truly odd06:46
tinyxlol I know06:47
tinyxHow do I convert it to .ogg?06:47
DaSkreech_Ha ha06:47
DaSkreech_trust me trying to get it working is much faster06:47
tinyxback to the drawing board06:47
abortdthis is pissing me off06:47
abortdok there we go06:48
abortdhow can i change the server i get updates from?06:48
DaSkreech_tinyx: double check it installed06:48
tinyxI did =/06:48
DaSkreech_Jucato: any clues?06:49
DaSkreech_abortd: change the prefix06:49
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Jucatohuh? wha?06:50
DaSkreech_Jucato: libxine-extracodecs installed. Mp3 no worky06:50
abortdJucato, you annoy me06:50
DaSkreech_abortd: you have a prefix on your servers06:50
abortdyeah i know06:50
abortdwhere do i change it?06:50
DaSkreech_in sources.list06:50
JucatoI annoy you?06:50
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abortdyeah odd06:51
DaSkreech_Jucato: follow the troll later :-) why would mp3's not work?06:51
abortdthe like "huh? wha?" did it06:51
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:51
abortdand im no troll right now06:51
Jucatoabortd: I am not 100% paying attention to this channel, as I have some other work to do06:52
JucatoDaSkreech_: your customer06:52
abortdfinish a word atleast06:52
DaSkreech_Jucato: I know I want a bone. throw me one06:52
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DaSkreech_ I've never had that happen before06:52
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DaSkreech_tinyx: can you open kaffiene and play a mp3?06:55
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DaSkreech_you can right click in Konqueror and play in kaffiene06:56
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tinyxyes Kaffiene works!06:58
tinyxHow can I set it as my default player?~!06:58
DaSkreech_tinyx: ??06:59
tinyxOMG thats awesome!! thank you ubuntu dude06:59
tinyxHow do I set Kaffiene as my default player?06:59
tinyxI think I know..06:59
abortdwhat dir is sources in?06:59
DaSkreech_tinyx: is there a amarok icon in your systray?06:59
pollyoAnyone familiar with restricted drivers?07:00
DaSkreech_tinyx: right click it and close it07:00
DaSkreech_pollyo: I'm not. What's the problem>07:00
DaSkreech_tinyx: now alt+space -> ama -> press enter07:01
DaSkreech_it should work now07:01
kalorin_ok someone amazingly brilliant tell me how to fix this one: I run the system settings and select monitor and display settings, and I get an error message saying "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded. The dianostics is: Possible reasons: An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module or You have old third party modules lying around."07:01
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DaSkreech_kalorin_: try opening it in kcontrol07:01
pollyoDaSkreech_: I'm just looking for information on the nvidia restricted drivers07:01
DaSkreech_pollyo: What kind?07:02
pollyoDaSkreech_: nvidia glx-legacy (restricted) driver07:02
DaSkreech_pollyo: What kind of info I meant07:03
kalorin_DaSkreech_: it just returns to the peripherals menu07:03
kalorin_I click and get the menu again07:03
kalorin_like I didn't click07:03
pollyoDaSkreech_: How to get it working.  My system installed it but it is not registering as being used.07:03
DaSkreech_kalorin_: Umm ask in #kde what is needed for that module07:03
kalorin_now I am running the ATI driver07:03
DaSkreech_!nvidia | pollyo07:03
ubotupollyo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:03
Jucatokalorin_: don't ask in #kde, you'll just get redirected here07:04
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Jucatokalorin_: instead, try to reinstall the kde-guidance package07:04
pollyoDaSkreech_: I'll check that out.  Thank you.07:04
JucatoDaSkreech_: Kubuntu's Monitor & Display is a Kubuntu-only module. KDE doesn't ship with it07:04
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tinyxOMG IT WORKS07:05
DaSkreech_Jucato: didn't think about that07:05
DaSkreech_tinyx: of course it does :)07:05
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ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.07:05
tinyxI'm not gay man.. BUT I FUC---FREAKIN LOVE YOU.07:06
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DaSkreech_tinyx: well if you find yourself thinking that your OS is getting in your way again come here07:06
DaSkreech_We'll change that pretty quick07:06
kalorin_ok reinstalling the kde-guideance07:07
kalorin_all set07:07
tinyxMy friend told me about Ubuntu, and I tried it.. and then I tried Kubuntu07:07
tinyxI like KDE better =] 07:07
DaSkreech_Jucato: I'll check what else is in kde-guidance tomorrow07:07
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keisangianyone have a clue from cron ?  DaSkreech_ ?07:07
kalorin_ok reinstalled and restarted the settings deal and same same07:07
DaSkreech_tinyx: I love you too then :)07:07
kalorin_it's got to be some kernel module that's the wrong version from the stupid ATI drivers07:07
JucatoDaSkreech_: userconfig, mountconfig, displayconfig, serviceconfig, and the new wineconfig07:07
DaSkreech_Ahh that's what does wineconfig07:08
DaSkreech_ i was trying to figure that out07:08
DaSkreech_didn't seem very KDeish07:08
JucatoDaSkreech_: um no. not the winecfg07:08
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Jucatothe one in kde-guidance is a kde frontend to the winecfg one07:08
icecruncherhow do you install rpm's again?07:09
DaSkreech_keisangi: can you try and echo into /root/file_you_own07:09
Jucato!alien | icecruncher07:09
ubotuicecruncher: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)07:09
DaSkreech_!rpm | icecruncher07:09
keisangiDaSkreech_: yes i tryed manualy, it work07:09
icecruncherso alien bla.rpm = bla.deb?07:09
DaSkreech_keisangi: Yeah I expected that to07:09
DaSkreech_the cron is the issue now. did you put the /root/your_file in the cron ?07:10
DaSkreech_icecruncher: you don't need the =bla.deb it assumes that07:10
DaSkreech_icecruncher: What are you installing?07:10
kalorin_nope same same :(07:10
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icecruncherDaSkreech_: I need a flash plugin for konq07:11
keisangiDaSkreech_: i have a file named "root" in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/    <--- here ...07:11
DaSkreech_!flash | icecruncher07:11
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ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash07:11
Jucatoicecruncher: flashplugin-nonfree07:11
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icecruncherthnks all07:11
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keisangiDaSkreech_:   the content is this:  http://rafb.net/p/DOHAkU37.html07:12
kalorin_ok this is a little strange looking to me07:12
conorkirk1Is this flash port for the PowerPC architecture?07:12
kalorin_depmod -n | grep fglrx shows two modules07:12
kalorin_1) /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/misc/fglrx.ko07:12
kalorin_and 2) /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko07:13
kalorin_but they're not the same size file07:13
DaSkreech_keisangi: type crontab -e07:13
kalorin_does that make any sense?07:13
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keisangiDaSkreech_: ok .. i need it07:13
keisangiDaSkreech_: i *did* it07:14
DaSkreech_keisangi: does it still show you that file ?07:14
keisangiDaSkreech_: it opened my "root" file from /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root07:14
keisangiinto nano editor07:14
DaSkreech_change the /file_you_own to /root/file_you_own07:15
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kalorinso any other ideas how to find modules that are orphaned?07:18
kalorinhelp me obi-wan, you're my only hope!07:18
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kalorin(but I don't look like leia)07:19
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crazy_buscan I ask feisty questions here or is there a special channel?07:19
DaSkreech_crazy_bus: officially it's #ubuntu+107:19
crazy_busis that for kubuntu questions too?07:20
DaSkreech_kalorin: Chewie?07:20
farruinnAfter recent updates in edgy Quanta freezes as soon as it opens. Terminal output is at: http://pastebin.ca/43585107:20
jttcrazy_bus: #kubuntu07:21
kalorinwell not that bad07:21
Jucatocrazy_bus: #ubuntu+1 is for all feisty questions07:21
kalorinmore like, rebel soldier # 23739107:21
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DaSkreech_kalorin: oh that guy. What's he up to nowadays?07:22
kalorinjust finishing up his degree for IT07:22
kalorinand making the switch to kubuntu07:22
kalorinnice guy07:22
kalorinhaving a hell of a time with his ATI video card :(07:22
DaSkreech_kalorin: What do you want it to do?07:23
kalorinand too poor to just go buy a new one07:23
kalorinwell I just want to figure out what it's complaining about with this module that's laying around07:23
kalorinit would seem it's a kernel module that says it's orphaned07:23
kalorinand I just can't sleep knowing that there's an orphan on my system needing a good family07:23
DaSkreech_What ati card is it?07:24
kalorinwell it's an x700 and I've got it working now07:24
kalorindoing the whole big desktop using the ATI drivers and all that jazz07:24
kalorinbut now this applet thing wouldn't run07:25
kalorinand it's weirdness, I put DPMS settings in the xorg.conf file and it ignores them07:25
kalorinbut if I use xset and set them it's fine and works great07:25
farruinnCan anyone see if they have the same problem with Quanta that I do?07:26
kalorinalso it always starts with the two screens in clone mode, and I have to use their applet to change it to dual head07:26
kaloringo figure07:26
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farruinnI have no idea why I'm getting this "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169" error.07:26
kalorinbut since I restart so seldom it's not a big deal, but I do want that module gone07:26
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farruinnI've seen it in a few bugs for kde packages on launchpad, but I didn't see any connection to this07:26
Jucatofarruinn: you can ignore those baddevice errors07:26
Jucatothey're basically just saying that it can't find any wacom device indicated in the xorg.conf file07:27
os2macIs there a way through adept to revert to an older version of an installed package?07:27
farruinnJucato: Ah, ok. Thanks07:27
farruinnHow can I figure out what's causing the problem then?07:28
DaSkreech_os2mac: good question. You can do it in apt-get07:29
farruinnI tried deleting ~/.kde/share/apps/quanta in case there was a bad setting, but it had no effect07:29
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Jucatofarruinn: the settings would be in ~/.kde/share/config/07:29
os2macDaSkreech: can you give me an example syntax?07:29
Jucato~/.kde/share/apps is the application's data folder07:29
icecruncheramarok won't play podcasts, what to do?07:30
farruinnJucato: ah, many thanks, that did it.07:31
flaccidfarruinn: thats intentional07:31
markcany audio folks here ?07:31
farruinnflaccid: what's intentional?07:31
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flaccidoh sorry jucato already answered07:31
markcI mean heavy duty alsa users07:31
sonoftheclayricecruncher: what does amarok do when it won't play podcasts?07:31
flaccidmy bad07:31
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flaccidits a pity kubuntu doesn't wanna get rid of baddevice07:31
farruinnflaccid: eh, ok :)07:31
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farruinnright, so is that a kde library that's making that message or an X library?07:32
Jucatoflaccid: it's not a kubuntu thing only. it's a whole Ubuntu thing07:32
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os2macDascreech: ?07:32
Jucatofarruinn: that's X07:32
flaccidyes but kubuntu can do something about it then share it with ubuntu07:32
flaccidi was referring to the community07:33
Jucatoflaccid: what I meant to say is that it's a -core feature/bug/problem/issue07:33
farruinnso apparently it hasn't been fixed for feisty?07:33
Jucatokernel/X level07:33
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: i download them, and it says 'sme media could not be loaded (not playable07:33
Jucatoit's not really something broken to be fixed. it's more of an unwanted side effect07:33
flaccidits userland07:34
flaccidnot kernel07:34
Jucatoflaccid: X07:34
JucatoI meant that the -core devs are the ones handling the lower level stuff07:34
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flaccidits specific to X but its responsible in userland07:35
sonoftheclayricecruncher: i dunno, your on your on sorry07:35
flaccidand to determine if it was broken or an unwanted side effect there woudl need to be some sort of specification document07:35
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DaSkreech_icecruncher: install mp3 support07:37
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flaccidi just don't see why wacom gets the exception to the rule07:38
Jucatoflaccid: because they put that in xorg.conf by default to be able to accomodate tablet pc's and pointing devices such as those on laptops07:38
flaccidwhy do they have to do that?07:38
Jucatoit's not really for wacom tablets07:39
flaccidwhats different about wacom07:39
flaccidxorg.conf is an optimised document07:39
Jucatoit's not for wacom tablets themselves07:39
flaccidxorg configure scripts and programs shouldn't be putting in devices that are not in your system07:39
N0Lif3|lappyHey guys, I can't access the share settings (SystemSettings>Sharing). Even when I click the "Administrator Mode" button and enter my password, it is still greyed out and unaccessable. I even tried "sudo systemsettings" from the Konsole and it's still greyed out.07:40
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fdovingflaccid: don't you want things you plugin to your system to work without re-running the configuration for each device? i for example want my external monitor to work without having to restart X. it does need to be configured to work with xorg.conf in order to acomplish that.07:41
flaccidthats something different07:41
flaccidif thats the case why don't we just put all devices in xorg.conf07:42
flaccidand screw the xorg-reconfigure or whatever07:42
flaccidthen people wouldn't have to much at all but it wouldn't discriminate..07:42
chemicalvampi cant seem to move this file from my desktop to a restricted folder...07:42
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fdovingflaccid: because that's unneccessary, and wouldn't work. we're going for a compromise here. simple-enought but yet powerfull and most devices will work.07:43
chemicalvampi type sudo mv (path/filename) (path)07:43
chemicalvampand i get a line like this: >07:43
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flaccidthing is fdoving07:43
flaccidisn't a wacom tablet a pc07:43
flaccidyou don't plug it in to your pc, it is the pc ?07:43
flaccidso the initial xorg configure should detect if you have that an put it in xorg.conf conditionally07:44
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jttchemicalvamp:  do you only get the  >  (greater than prompt back?)07:44
flaccidthat would save the workaround07:44
jttchemicalvamp: all by itself on a line07:44
mikeycan kubuntu tell me the type of ram on my system?07:44
Jucatoflaccid: a wacom tablet isn't a pc07:44
flaccidwhat is it?07:45
DaSkreech_chemicalvamp: you have an open quote07:45
fdovingflaccid: http://images.google.no/images?q=wacom%20tablet&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi07:45
jttchemicalvamp: that is you secondary prompt you have a single quote or something taht is preventing the completion of the shell command lien07:45
flaccidthey look like tablet pcs to me http://www.wacom.com/tabletpc/07:45
Jucatoflaccid: http://www.wacom.com/07:45
jttchemicalvamp: the shell is expecting more input (closure) before it executes teh mv command07:46
flaccidit says pc on that site07:46
chemicalvampsudo mv /home/chemicalvamp/Desktop/Wag'sdungeon.mod /usr/share/games/egoboo/modules/07:46
Jucatoflaccid: that's a Tablet PC made by the Wacom company07:46
DaSkreech_chemicalvamp: you need to escape the '07:46
flaccidis that not what we are talking about?07:46
Jucatoflaccid: a plain wacom tablet is an input device07:46
chemicalvampdo i rename the file?07:47
DaSkreech_chemicalvamp: tab is your friend07:47
jttchemicalvamp: yep the  single quote is the problem  back slash it  ...\'...07:47
flaccidJucato: the pen tablet ?07:47
Jucato"tablet" doesn't necessarily mean "tablet pc "07:47
flaccidwell most people when they say tablet they mean a pc07:47
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flaccidand not a stylus07:47
Jucatoand X sees them both as just one device07:47
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Jucato(a stylus isn't a tablet either)07:47
Jucatoa stylus is the pen you use for both plain tablets and a tablet pc07:48
fdovingflaccid: judging from google images results, that's not true.07:48
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flaccidwhat is a tablet07:48
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chemicalvampthanks guys i just cut the ' out07:48
flaccidyou only linked me to wacom.com which is all of them07:48
DaSkreech_chemicalvamp: on the command line tab is yourfriend07:49
DaSkreech_!tab | chemicalvamp07:49
ubotuchemicalvamp: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.07:49
Jucatofdoving: Plain (graphics) tablet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet07:49
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mikeykinfocenter is mo nice07:49
Jucatoer sorry07:49
Jucatoflaccid: Plain (graphics) tablet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet07:49
mikeybut, don't tell me the type of ram07:49
Jucatoflaccid: Tablet PC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablet_PC07:49
chemicalvampDaSkreech_ oh yes xD very nice07:49
flaccidso the tablet is what you right on and so forth. the input device07:50
Jucatotablet pc is a pc that uses a tablet interface07:50
flaccidthanks for the explanation07:50
Jucatoso for a tablet pc's interface to work, X must be configured to work with it, hence the wacom lines in xorg.conf07:50
N0Lif3|lappyHey guys, I can't access the share settings (SystemSettings>Sharing). Even when I click the "Administrator Mode" button and enter my password, it is still greyed out and unaccessable. I even tried "sudo systemsettings" from the Konsole and it's still greyed out.07:51
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Jucatofor a tablet pc, the tablet is not just an extra device you attach, but an essential peripheral, like a keyboard and a mouse07:51
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flaccidthats cool07:51
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Jucato!away > plasmonet07:52
flaccidbut it should be detected07:52
flaccidwhich goes back to my point :)07:52
flaccidactually maybe i'm wrong. because you would need to restart X if you already had X going and was just handed a tablet to plugin07:52
Jucatodoes the installation autodetect if a keyboard is present and removes the keyboard entry if it isn't? or does it work with a default configuration07:53
jttN0Lif3|lappy: worked for me not sure where that base menu is07:53
N0Lif3|lappyjtt: :/07:53
flaccidits defined explicitly in xorg.conf for keybaord07:53
Jucatoflaccid: then think why it must be explicitly defined in xorg.conf in order for Ubuntu to work on tablet pc's out of the box07:53
flaccidso the problem really could be xorg because it needs to handle devices that are not currently plugged in right?07:54
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jttN0Lif3|lappy: cd to  $HOME/,kde  and execute  find . |grep -i  sharing     and see what pops up07:54
mikeyjtt: what was the fix?  happens to me occassionally07:54
flaccidyes but the xorg configure does the explicit definition..07:54
Jucatoprobably. but we're also considering what needs to be ther by default for the system to work ootb07:54
N6REJdoes anyone know why Firefox in linux doesn't show images on webpages?07:54
jttmikey: the fix  for  >07:54
mikey[22:51]  <N0Lif3|lappy> Hey guys, I can't access the share settings07:54
jttmikey: i.e. do you mean the fix for  >07:54
Jucatoflaccid: just consider, for a Tablet PC owner, he would probably be having the same baddevice errors for the keyboard and mice entries in xorg.conf07:55
jttmikey: ok07:55
mikeygreyed out even when hitting admin button07:55
Jucato(unless the tablet pc is a convertible)07:55
N6REJmikey: I have the same problem :(07:55
flaccidJucato: no because keyboard is autodetected or asked with xorg configure program07:55
mikeyseems to be a common onethen07:55
jttmikey: i said go to   $HOME/.kde and  execute   find . | grep -i  sharing    and see what pops up07:55
mikeymine seems to fix itself without a reboot07:55
mikeyty jtt07:56
jttmikey: i am not sure where that menu comes from but it might have info   in  $HOME/.kde07:56
N6REJjtt: nothing does.07:56
Jucatoflaccid: anyway, we're going offtopic, we can argue on and on about this, but the people you really want to talk to, if you're really concerned, would be in #ubuntu-devel07:56
jttN6REJ: hold on a sec07:56
N6REJjtt: k07:56
flaccidJucato: i think #xorg might be better. i'll find out the best way to handle this then get back to you07:57
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Jucatonot to me though07:57
flaccidie. ad-hoc devices with xorg that are not yet plugged in07:57
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flacciderrr yes to you07:57
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N0Lif3|lappyCould somebody look at this config.log file and tell me why it configure doesn't pass for me? http://download.yousendit.com/C91AEC8172DA5E7207:57
flaccidits called being respectful07:57
Jucatoflaccid: ah ok... if you say so :)07:57
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mikeyany shortcut to bring up a root terminal?07:58
flaccidi'm sure you would like to know the outcome :)07:58
Jucatomikey: other than using sudo?07:58
mikeycommand is what then?07:58
jttN6REJ:  yes you are right nothing pops up here either  sorry  i am not an indepth  kde  person07:58
mikeysorry, nOOb here07:58
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N6REJjtt: np.07:58
Jucato!sudo | mikey07:58
ubotumikey: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:58
Jucatoflaccid: yeah kinda. but not all too crucial for me :)07:59
N6REJN0Lif3|lappy: if you want help with that please put it in a pastebin.  I'm not going to dl a file from a site I don't know.07:59
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mikeyjucato: ty.  will have a look07:59
flaccidseverity doesn't matter07:59
N6REJ!pastebin N0Lif3|lappy07:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebin n0lif3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:59
jttN6REJ:  look in the  kde  share  directory  probalby  under  /usr and search for  sharing07:59
N6REJjtt: cc07:59
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N0Lif3|lappyN6REJ: pastebin?07:59
Jucato!pastebin | N0Lif3|lappy08:00
ubotuN0Lif3|lappy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:00
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JucatoN6REJ: you forgot the | in between the factoid and the nick :08:01
N6REJlol, figures.08:01
N6REJbrb, out of smokes.08:01
jttN6REJ: is the sharing  icon itself grayed out?08:02
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N6REJno, it informed me that I don't have the smb/nfs servers installed.08:02
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jttN6REJ: oh that is different08:03
jttN6REJ: hold on a moment08:03
N6REJyeah, that makes sense... it never said that before.08:03
N6REJThats self explanatory.08:03
jttN6REJ: they you know what to do right?08:03
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jttmikey: you there08:04
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N0Lif3|lappyN6REJ: i'm trying to use pastebin by pasting the contents of my config.log file, but when I press Send I just get a page of garbage.08:04
jttmikey: did you see my questions to N6REJ08:04
mikeysharing yes?08:05
flaccidwhere is service management gui located in kubuntu08:05
N6REJN0Lif3|lappy: is it a binary file or an ascii file?  don't select a file type.08:05
N6REJflaccid: advanced08:05
jttmikey: perhaps you also have not installed samba08:05
jttmikey: or nfs08:05
flaccidah thanks08:05
mikeyno, I've got samba up and running actually08:05
flaccidgotta kill networkmanager its useless08:05
mikeywindows media center pc hooked to my linux serve08:06
jttmikey: and the sharing icon is grayed out?08:06
N6REJflaccid: don't you need it to get out?08:06
mikeynot always08:06
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flaccidout of it?08:06
jttmikey: sometimes it is sometimes it is not?08:06
N0Lif3|lappyN6REJ: no, wasn't binary. It's all read-able, it's a log of how my configure process went. ascii08:06
mikeybut, when I hit the admin icon, expecting a password entry, the large box goes red, and nothing fills into it08:06
N6REJflaccid: what is the purprose of the network manager, its hassling me 208:06
mikeyjtt: yes08:06
mikeyseems random08:07
mikeyand clears up by itself08:07
flaccidi don't know what the purpose of it is08:07
N6REJjtt: he's having the problem I had before the latest updates.... now it complains about samba08:07
flaccidit might help if you are dynamic on several nets, but otherwise it just stuffs up my networking08:07
jttmikey: the admin icon, where is that08:07
mikeybottom of the sharing screen08:07
jttmikey: ok hold a min08:07
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N6REJflaccid: thats what I'm wondering... I'm nat'd and my ip id dynamic ( DUH ) but, still.08:08
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N6REJjtt: let me make sure samba is in on my side.08:08
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flaccidit might be good wireless, thats about it08:08
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N6REJflaccid: interesting.  I wonder if I manually turned the silly thing on.08:09
jttmikey: funny i dont hav an admin button however, i always login as root08:09
flaccidwhat calls networkmanager, coz its not in services?08:09
mikeyoh really...08:09
flaccidjtt: not good08:10
flaccid!info network-manager08:10
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ubotunetwork-manager: network management framework daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 222 kB, installed size 540 kB08:10
flaccidok its optional08:10
flaccidso i remove it08:10
flaccidits quite wrong thats its not installed as a service08:10
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flaccidmaybe it goes under dif name08:10
jttflaccid: i dont ever run as anything else never have for 20 years08:10
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N6REJit does.08:11
flaccidits considered bad practice to login as root under X08:11
N6REJsudo apt-cache search networkmanager you'll be surprised08:11
DaSkreech_flaccid: In Ubuntu it's considered bad to login as root08:12
jttflaccid: it is an old wifes tale08:12
mikeywow...windows media center is MUCH faster with linux as a server08:12
flaccidDaSkreech_: i read a page once that said its bad to do it for X in general. not sure why08:12
mikeysearching for music is zippy08:12
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.08:12
N6REJThe schism to not running as root is simply to protect yourself from yourself08:12
flaccidmikey: doubt it08:12
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flaccidN6REJ: not the package name. the service name. can you see what the service is called because i can't08:12
mikeyI've been using a windows share for a year.  Just switched to linux08:13
N6REJlet me look.08:13
flaccidmikey: maybe you are not using an index08:13
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flaccidlocate slocate08:13
mikeyin mce, I search for media, and it populates the database08:14
flaccidwindows using the IndexingService or whatever08:14
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mikeythink that's a default setting no?08:14
flaccidyes mikey you would need to set up an index08:14
flaccidi've never used mce08:14
mikeywindows has indexing allowed on all default ide hd's no?08:15
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flaccidi don't know sorry mikey. i know back in the day you used have to turn it on, but yeah dunno08:16
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flaccidthey most likely made it default08:16
flaccidN6REJ: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=network-manager&version=edgy&arch=i386 can't see it having its own daemon. pretty non-standard08:16
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mikeybut, linux crashed when updating my media share, when I hit adept and began looking for an update to my video card08:17
flaccidfind out why08:17
mikeyeverything locked, had to hard boot08:19
flaccidcheck /var/log/syslog before the crash to see if anything went in there08:20
flaccidcan you replicate the crash?08:20
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flaccidie. does it happen all the time when you use adept08:20
mikeyonly happened once08:21
N6REJok, this was werid.08:21
N6REJI think I was being hacked!08:21
mikeyand I've used adept many times b408:21
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mikeywas updating 10K songs, that's prob. why08:21
Cosmo_I forget whats the terminal command to rename a file08:22
ulmolavenderCosmo_: mv08:22
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abortdisnt mv to move a file from dir to dir?08:23
Jucatoit's also to rename08:23
N6REJcan someone please explain to me why this place would have an "eth0" entry in my ifconfig?  It was eth0-ahav if I remember right... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15180/08:23
N6REJabortd: yes08:23
ulmolavendercd /tmp; touch it; mv it there; ls08:23
mikeyflaccid: this mean anything?08:24
mikeyACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:02.0[A]  -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 16908:24
mikeyin syslog08:24
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flaccidmikey: possible. i guess you could google acpi level, low08:25
mikeywill do08:25
flaccidbut if its hard crash its 50% chance hardware problem08:25
flaccidif it doesn't happen again then cool08:25
flaccidwhat version of ubuntu08:25
keisangiDaSkreech_:  thanks for the help earlier with cron :)08:25
aneesflaccid: hi...is there prince of percia game in ubuntu08:25
DaSkreech_keisangi: Works now?08:25
mikeydunno. how can I tell ver?08:26
flaccid!games > anees08:26
keisangiDaSkreech_: yes :)08:26
mikeythink it's the newest.  only d/l a few days ago08:26
flaccidanees: also search http://packages.ubuntu.com or apt:// in konq08:26
flaccidmikey: i had a hard crash like that last night too08:26
flaccidon feisty dev08:26
keisangiDaSkreech_: i was busy so i couldn't test but yes your last messages did solved the prob .. /root/file instead of /file08:27
mikeynot using that one here.  The prior release08:27
DaSkreech_keisangi: Thought so08:27
flaccidand i'm on new non-faulty hardware, tested. so could be a bug in the dev release. we wait for prod release first08:27
aneesflaccid: ok...sir...08:27
flaccidmikey: either way08:27
N6REJoh this sucks, opera's been removed from fiesty08:27
mikeyedgy I think08:27
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mikeyis it a pain to add software that is not in the repo directory of adept?08:28
jttmikey: the kernel that crashed  was it from  cvs  or  a daily08:28
mikeyno idea08:28
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mikey<--- remember...nOOb08:28
jttmikey: where did you get it from08:28
flaccidN6REJ: yeah i install the latest desktop version08:29
jttmikey: do you have the url08:29
flaccidmikey: its not hard08:29
mikeylemme see08:29
jttmikey: i am interested because i am on of the testers for ubuntu and kubuntu images08:29
flaccidto install a .deb package: dpkg -i ./mypackage.deb08:30
N6REJflaccid: yeah, I did to, but today its complaining... I'm having a problem with firefox not showing images on certain webpages, and I can't figure out why.  like www.joomla.com it won't show some of the imagery.08:30
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser08:30
mikeywas 6.10 from http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php08:30
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mikeyflaccid: ty. gonna add that one to the cheat sheet08:31
N6REJDaSkreech_: try sudo apt-get install opera and see what happens :D08:31
jttmikey: ok that is an older one i am primarily concerned with  7.04 dailys08:31
jttmikey: thanks08:31
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flaccidyeah the repos is broken for opera it think i removed it yesterday08:31
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DaSkreech_N6REJ: cmd.exe complains :(08:31
DaSkreech_tinyx: yo08:31
tinyxNice to see you again DaSkreech_08:31
flaccidlatest opera: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/08:31
tinyxi was bored.. so i came back to chat =] 08:32
N6REJjtt: todays kernel was fine.08:32
DaSkreech_tinyx: cool :)08:32
tinyxI saw somebody online with a 3D desktop type thing... is that possible, or do I not know what I am talking about lol08:32
jttN6REJ: did you download the daily08:32
mikeyanyone got a good solution for a windows emulator?08:32
DaSkreech_!beryl | tinyx08:32
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ubotutinyx: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:32
abortdwhen is final release of feisty?08:32
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ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases08:32
N6REJjtt: yep, I use adept auto-updater and trust it heavily.08:32
DaSkreech_!schedule | abortd08:32
ubotuabortd: please see above08:32
N6REJit dl's over 100 packages today08:33
tinyxHave you ever used that...08:33
DaSkreech_abortd: Pretty much next week08:33
abortdi showed my self first :P08:33
tinyxumm, what is your name DaSkreech_08:33
jttN6REJ: good glad someone is testing i am out of pocket for several days08:33
DaSkreech_ :-)08:33
kalorinmikey, vmware08:33
jttN6REJ: btw what is dl  deleted?08:33
tinyxok cool08:33
mikeyhmm... I don't think it can open the app I need08:34
tinyxI hate using the tab function with konversation.. it hates me =/08:34
mikeywhich is quickbooks 200608:34
N6REJjtt: download08:34
tinyxBut anyways, have you used beryl skreech?08:34
kalorinmikey, vmware server is freeware08:34
mikeykalorin: but ty08:34
kalorinmkae a windows box and run it in there08:34
DaSkreech_tinyx: try using four letters first08:34
tinyxDaSkreech_: oh cool08:34
mikeyyea, guess so kalorin08:34
DaSkreech_tinyx: makes it a lot more likely to hit what you want08:34
kalorinthat's what I'm doing with photoshop08:34
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mikeyyea, sux08:35
abortdthats like asking "whats your name neo"08:35
mikeyI dual boot mine also08:35
kalorinyep sure does08:35
jttN6REJ: i keep rsyncing the dailys but have not had time to test for several days08:35
kalorini don't dual boot08:35
mikeyoh ic08:35
DaSkreech_tinyx: Welcome to Kubuntu btw08:35
tinyxCan you use Photoshop with Kubuntu?08:35
kalorinjust fire up a window with windows running in it, use it, put it away08:35
tinyxThank you =] 08:35
DaSkreech_ I didn't do that before08:35
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant08:35
kalorintiny: sure with vmware08:35
kalorinor some other emulation software08:35
abortdtinyx, the gimp works just as well i prefer it08:35
mikeytinyx: I heard you can by using win4lin I believe08:35
N6REJjtt: last few days i've been getting updates up the wazzoo.  Glad to see'm too!08:35
jttN6REJ: i see heno put out a msg about testing  4/11/07 as they think that will be the RC08:35
kaloringimp *laugh* appropriately named08:35
tinyxI have Wine on my system as well, but yeah.08:35
kalorinwine didn't work with elements 4 that I tried08:36
tinyxI wish I could use MySpaceIM.. because my GF has that.. and I have to use Windows to talk to her online08:36
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jttN6REJ: how are you downloading what command are you using08:36
N6REJjtt: I hope we're getting close to a stable RC08:36
abortdwhy use windows if all you can do is use windows programs?08:36
mikeytinyx: trade her in for a linux chick08:36
N6REJjtt: I use the adept-auto updater.  I get a red triangle almost every morning.08:37
DaSkreech_tinyx: convert her :)08:37
abortdi do everything i did on windows in linux without the programs besides utorrent08:37
DaSkreech_tinyx: or jump in #kopete and tell them you need myspaceim support ;-)08:37
DaSkreech_For <308:37
mikeyabortd: I'm getting there...just a few stragglers08:37
abortdtell her to use msn08:37
tinyxI can't use Kopete with AIM.08:37
mikeylike skype, photoshop, quickbooks08:37
tinyxMy buddy list won't show up08:37
abortddoesnt kopete work with msn vid and mic?08:38
tinyxI had to install Gaim.. and I HATE GAIM.08:38
jttN6REJ:  so you are running 7.04 all the time?08:38
DaSkreech_tinyx: Did you have the little blue man running?08:38
kalorinicky gaim08:38
abortdgaim is great i use gnome08:38
N6REJI would love to be able to use photoshop in *nix.  Gimp drives me crazy.08:38
DaSkreech_tinyx: it does that to me as well08:38
N6REJjtt: yep!08:38
kalorinkopete does a nice job with yahoo messenger08:38
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DaSkreech_tinyx: I just sign off and back on and it works08:38
DaSkreech_kalorin: Yeah much more so than all others save jabber08:38
abortdgaim pwns all08:38
N6REJjtt: having some issues with losing sound settings, but other then that pretty stable for me.08:38
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jttN6REJ: ok good i cant do that on the road i do it at home but on the road i have to be stable no time to fudge around with problems08:39
DaSkreech_N6REJ: talk to Disney08:39
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kalorinhavent tried jabber08:39
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tinyxI get this message You are not allowed to add yourself to the contact list. The addition of "blowthathoesmind" to account "blowthathoesmind" will not take place.08:39
mikeyany samba users here?08:39
kalorinI got the ymessenger linxu version08:39
kalorinit sucked bad08:39
N6REJDaSkreech_: k, will do that.  It just started with the last few updates, so hopefully they're on it.08:39
jttN6REJ: sound is not one of my needs for the most part08:39
tinyxMy s/n is blowthathoesmind by the way lol08:40
N6REJjtt: cc08:40
N6REJjtt: only reason I mainly use it is for skype.08:40
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DaSkreech_N6REJ: They are paying for Photoshop to run on Linux08:40
jttN6REJ: yes someone asked a question about ubuntu and skype last night08:40
N6REJwill someone please explain to me why with both FF and opera I can't see the main images at www.joomla.com08:40
N6REJDaSkreech_: who's paying?08:40
N6REJDaSkreech_: how?08:40
DaSkreech_N6REJ: Disney08:41
DaSkreech_To Wine Devs08:41
N6REJDaSkreech_: wow!08:41
DaSkreech_It's Photoshop 7 and 8 they want though :)08:41
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N6REJDaSkreech_: 9 has too many bad problems.  I'd be very happy to get 8 solid.08:41
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DaSkreech_they are moving a large part of the animation studios to linux cause it saves tehm oodles of money (Go Pixar!)08:41
DaSkreech_N6REJ: Some people went to Gimp others couldn't stomach it08:42
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mikeyN6RE: konq also don't display image08:42
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DaSkreech_so they worked it out and it costs them less money to get Photoshop working on Linux than it does to move back to Windows08:42
N6REJDaSkreech_: I'm trying to learn gimp, but it gives me headaches.  There are a few neat tricks it has, but its not as .......mmmmmmm....comfy? as PS08:42
N6REJDaSkreech_: oh yeah, and way more secure.08:43
kalorinyeah yahoo messneger's linux version depends on stuff so old that it's dependency packages aren't even named that anymore08:43
N6REJI'll have to talk to my mom and have her talk to my cousin who work at disney.08:43
DaSkreech_N6REJ: Yeah as I understand it people who invest in PS invest HEAVILY in PS08:43
DaSkreech_hard to de-trench them08:43
DaSkreech_kalorin: and doesn't support VV08:43
N6REJyep.... Its like having a maserati and then being asked to drive a jaguar.08:44
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kalorinwell you get used to your tools08:44
kalorinand it costs you too much time to learn new/different tools that do the same things08:44
N6REJthere is gimpshop, but I have'nt been successful in getting that fully installed.08:45
kalorinwhich largely is the reason that windows -> linux switch is so hard for most folks08:45
N6REJkalorin: I agree.  I need to make flash files often, and so far haven't found a good way to do that in *nix08:45
N6REJkalorin: that is the biggest reason for me.08:45
kalorinN6REJ: it's called vmware08:45
DaSkreech_mikey: gimp with the Photoshop Shortcut keys08:45
N6REJkalorin: is vmware finally mature?08:45
kalorinor really xen08:45
DaSkreech_N6REJ: or Xen on a virtualized proc08:46
kalorinit works great for me with photoshop08:46
kalorinvmware server is now freeware08:46
N6REJkalorin: way cool!, how about swish?08:46
kalorinand super easy to install/configure08:46
N6REJits a flash creator/editor08:46
kalorini have an xp instance on my box here that's got 50gb08:46
kalorinoh no idea08:46
kalorini don't do anything flash08:46
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kalorinit's one of those things I want to learn about later after I finish my degree08:47
N6REJis the vmware server in the repos?08:47
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kalorinright now I have way too much stupid finance and quantative methods homework to mess iwth new stuff08:47
kalorinnah, vmware.com08:47
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kalorindownload the server, register for a key, enjoy08:47
kalorinI installed the whole mess in /home/vmware08:47
kalorinand just configged it that way08:47
N6REJkalorin: you can have quantuam physics.  I'll stick to my electrons LOL08:47
kalorinso it's out of the way and not messing with things08:47
kalorinquantative methods is business decisions stuff08:48
kalorinis it better to choose A or B08:48
kalorinin other words, the formal study of what smart folks just know how to do intuitively08:48
N6REJkalorin: OH!!!! that I could use, but would likely lose the rest of my hair.08:48
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kalorinit's amamzing that they can write whole books on naming common sense practices and make money at it08:48
kalorinactually, amazing and bothersome at the same time08:49
mikeyain't that called psychology?08:49
N6REJlol uh huh.... All I know is I've always been gifted with understanding digital circuits.08:49
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kalorintaking the class is like suffocation08:49
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:49
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jttoh oh the police have arrived08:50
kalorinok so where would I look for orphaned kernel modules?08:50
Jucatoyes. the police is here08:50
kalorinspeccifically stuff related to fglrx drivers08:50
abortdjtt, that sucks when that happens08:50
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Jucato(should be "are", but seeing as I'm only one)08:50
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tinyxBeryl, how exactly do I get it to work08:50
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:50
flaccidyou are usually the only 'police' guy Jucato :p08:50
N0Lif3|lappyWhere is my .rtorrent.rc file? shouldn't be at /home/myname/? I realize it would be hidden, but still "sudo kwrite /home/myname/.rtorrent.rc" creates a blank file.08:51
N6REJjust made perfect sense, till they started trying to tell me it was actually ABC, not XYZ, then I went HUH????  I was doing algebra heavily at 11 years old, but nobody ever told me it was algebra, then in college they started teaching us advanced algebra and I almost failed until someone had me tell them how to program and then said, "thats algebra" simple substitution(sp?)... it was like all the stars lit up at once.08:51
DaSkreech_flaccid: not true08:51
jttkalorin: what do you mean orphan08:51
abortdtinyx, #beryl #ubuntu-effects08:51
DaSkreech_flaccid: he just gives warning08:51
flaccidyeah thus my :p08:51
flaccidim just teasing08:51
Jucatoflaccid: you're lucky DaSkreech_ isn't one of us yet :P08:51
kalorinjtt well I have this message saying that I have a module that's getting in the way of the settings for monitors and devices08:51
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Jucatoanyway, back to work...08:52
DaSkreech_flaccid: Hear hear!08:52
flaccidand what are we heheheh08:52
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kalorinN6REJ: that's cool08:52
flaccidi'm a complete tool08:52
Admiral_Chicagomoin Ju08:52
Admiral_Chicagoerr Jucato...haha08:52
DaSkreech_Hey Admiral_Chicago08:52
flaccidas you guys have noticed since i moved to pcbsd08:52
Jucatomoin Ad :D08:52
Admiral_Chicagohey there DaSkreech_08:52
N6REJflaccid: do me a favor... go to www.joomla.com and tell me if you see a big picture on the right and a smaller one mid screen on the left that says joomla 1.0.12 & 1.5 beta?08:52
jttkalorin: when you issue what command?08:52
N6REJkalorin: thanks.  Was just a gift08:52
N6REJevening Admiral_Chicago08:53
kalorinit specifically says that either an error occurred during my last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module or I have old third party modules lyin around08:53
Admiral_Chicagomorning N6REJ08:53
kalorinwhen use the GUI system settings thing and enter the monitor and displays area08:53
mackymanDoes anyone know of a CLI torrent-program?08:53
N6REJkalorin: sudo apt-get update -f if I'm not mistaken08:53
jttkalorin: ooooooK  kde land  i feel for you but cant reach you!!08:53
N6REJkalorin: no thats wrong... sudo apt-get upgrade -f08:54
N6REJlol @jtt08:54
flaccidN6REJ: i dont think i do. that site is weird.08:54
N6REJflaccid: its only in *nix that I have a problem... this is strange.08:54
DaSkreech_mackyman: How about torrent08:54
flaccidN6REJ: they should learn html/css08:54
N6REJflaccid: 1.5 will fix all that.08:55
DaSkreech_mackyman: I think the right name is bttorrent-headless08:55
flaccidN6REJ: 1.5 what?08:55
jttkalorin: N6REJ  kde is one of those areas I take what is stable08:55
mackymanDaSkreech_: Thx, I shall check it out08:55
N6REJjtt: I hear ya.08:55
kalorinI don't expect it's really a KDE issue so much as something else that KDE Is complaining about08:55
flaccidmackyman: bittorrent08:55
kalorinI've had a mess of a time getting the ATI drivers installed and finally have them stable08:55
jttkalorin: yes possible08:55
Admiral_Chicagomackyman: rtorrent would work08:56
N6REJflaccid: joomla 1.5 will be almost 100% html/css compliant.  Its being totally rewritten.08:56
kalorinand I suspect it's some leftovers from either the older ATI drivers, or the xorg free drivers08:56
flaccidN6REJ: thats good to hear. by you?08:56
mikeyhow to get a server list in this irc client?08:56
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N6REJflaccid: dynamic data is always difficult to make fully compliant.  No, I just use it heavily.08:56
jttkalorin: yup imagine you are correct08:57
abortdmikey, what client?08:57
N6REJkalorin: if you got a file that didn't finish properly -f should fix it.08:57
abortddid you try the menu buttons?08:57
Jucatomikey: there's no pre-made server list on Konversation08:57
N6REJkalorin: I've had it happen before.08:57
flaccidN6REJ: not for good developers08:57
Jucatoyou have to add your own08:57
mikeynot that I can find08:57
kalorinhrms.. well it's doing an apt-get upgrade -f08:57
abortdgo to the servers status window and right click it08:58
kalorinthis looks lik it's pulling a lot of stuff08:58
mackyman_flaccid: bittorrent seems nice =) Thx08:58
jttN6REJ: do you just execute   apt-get  upgrade -f    w/no package name08:58
N6REJflaccid: I don't know.  for example, there is a menu ( d-tree ) style that is mostly not used....08:58
N6REJjtt:  yeah08:58
flaccidmackyman: np08:58
kaloringoin g to feisty?08:58
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mikeyjucato: ty08:58
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kalorinoh it picked up libgdk-pixbuf2 and libqt3 and some other kde libs08:59
jttN6REJ: and it upgrades everything not just broken links?08:59
flaccidN6REJ: i'm not sure what you are referring to. but yeah i have no problem with dynamic data. just needs to be html encoded08:59
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N6REJflaccid: but when it is "activated" it is only for that page ergo the .css must load then.  HOWEVER current css/xhtml rules says thats a no-no08:59
abortdim not in kde right now :P08:59
N6REJjtt: yeah, it will find out what went wrong if anything and fix it.08:59
kalorinok restarted the control applet, same error08:59
jttN6REJ: thanks for the tip08:59
mikeyany way to get my windows pc toooo connect to my lunux shares without typing in a user/pass?08:59
N6REJjtt: np.08:59
kalorinso it's got to be something odd08:59
N6REJjtt: -f stands for "fix"08:59
flaccidN6REJ: i'm not sure what you mean, but server side should look after the choice of stylesheets09:00
kalorinof course I've got fglrx blacklisted for apt09:00
mikeyusing samba09:00
flaccidN6REJ: show me this no no please. can you be specific09:00
N6REJflaccid: thats not possible in this case.09:00
kalorinso it's not going to grab those09:00
jttN6REJ: is expected it to be  force not fix  interesting09:00
N6REJflaccid: lets move to ot09:00
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N6REJflaccid: kubuntu-ot09:01
flaccidjust pm a link if you can cite an example/w3c recommendation :)09:01
N6REJok, easy.. hang on.09:01
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N6REJhheheeh time to update my news articles09:03
flaccidJucato:  device hotplug  for xorg is in development :)09:03
N6REJflaccid: go here http://www.papabearspens.com/09:03
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flaccidN6REJ: and?09:03
Jucatoflaccid: oh that's good news then (for some :P)09:03
flaccidfor all it is yes09:03
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Jucatohehe :)09:04
N6REJflaccid: look at the menu on the left under "store menu" that uses a style sheet and stuff and can be turned on/off depending on the menu style I want.  It is seperate from the rest of the menuing.  So joomla itself can't load the .css ahead of time and still be dynamic cause it doesn't know about it in the template index.php file because it doesn't exist in THAT index.php file.09:04
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N6REJflaccid: so the result is it comes up as non compliant.09:05
flaccidwhat specifically comes up as non-compliant09:05
flaccidand in what validator?09:05
N6REJflaccid: that page..... shoot i forget...09:06
N6REJflaccid: thats not my forte' LOL09:06
flaccidok dont worry then09:06
jttwell folks it been great but i need to retire see ya ta'morrow09:07
flaccidthey are thousands of ways to do things. this can be done valid.09:07
N6REJflaccid: I have worked hard at removing all tables and such to make it compliant.  I think one of my sites is fully compliant but then it doesn't have a shopping cart attached to it either.09:07
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flaccidwell if you ever can't get something valid, i'll show you how09:07
N6REJflaccid: oh I don't disagree.  I could manually make it work, but the point is to have the dynamics of being able to hit a switch and have a module or function work/not work and then being compliant too.09:08
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N6REJflaccid: that would be cool09:08
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N6REJI wish I knew templates better then I do.  I could use a better template for one of my sites.09:08
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:09
flaccidN6REJ: what you want can be done in standards, valid.09:09
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:09
flaccidyou just have to know how09:09
N6REJAdmiral_Chicago: are you up on FF ?09:09
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N6REJflaccid: your right I'm sure.  its a long story but suffice it to say I'm not what I once was.09:10
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Admiral_ChicagoN6REJ: yes09:12
Admiral_Chicagowhy do you ask?09:12
N6REJAdmiral_Chicago: would you PLEASE explain something to me..... I'm having a problem with some sites, joomla.com is one of them.  I can't seem to see a few images and I don't know why as I never had the problem in windows09:13
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N6REJAdmiral_Chicago: but other sites are doing it also.09:13
N6REJAdmiral_Chicago: opera does the same thing.09:13
abortdbecause you are not in windows?09:14
abortddo you have flash?09:14
N6REJabortd: yeah.09:14
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N6REJabortd: if you go to that page on the top right is a large picture.  The alt text is "100k"09:15
abortdi know09:15
abortdi saw it09:15
N6REJon the left side 3rd frame down is a box that says 1.0.12 and 1.5beta, I can't see either of those.09:15
N6REJdo you see the image or the text?09:15
abortdsome webpages are also meant for ie09:16
abortdi see the text09:16
N6REJabortd: that site has always worked well with FF09:16
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abortdfreedom fighters?09:16
abortdyeah well09:17
abortdyou're not in kansas anymore dorthy09:17
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N6REJI fail to see why the browsers should behave differently in *nix then they do in windows.  Thats the whole purpose in being "portable"09:18
DaSkreech_Night all09:18
N6REJnite skreech09:18
abortdits night u mofo09:18
Jucatog'night DaSkreech_09:18
DaSkreech_!coc | abortd09:19
ubotuabortd: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/09:19
pollyoWhat is the difference between a generic kernel and say a 386 kernel?09:19
abortdthey behave different because they are  2 different operating systems09:19
N6REJabortd: I don't know who you are but I won't be spoken to like that.  Please don't use that kind of language around me.09:19
pollyoHow would you determine the kernel type for your computer?09:19
abortdcry for me if you want to take text in such a way09:19
mikeyhow to install an app downloaded outside of adept?09:20
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DaSkreech_mikey: What did you download?09:20
mikeywritten in python09:20
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mikeya audio player for mp3 + cdg files (karaoke)09:21
pollyoIs there a way to reset your xorg.conf to the original settings?09:21
mikeycalled pykaraoke09:21
DaSkreech_that's it's name?09:21
DaSkreech_!info pykaraoke09:21
ubotupykaraoke: free CDG/MIDI/MPEG karaoke player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 184 kB09:21
DaSkreech_mikey: apt-get install it :)09:21
pollyodo you just run dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg09:21
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mikey.sudo apt-get pykaraoke ?09:22
DaSkreech_mikey: sudo apt-get install pykaraoke09:22
mikeyyea baby.  lovin it09:23
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Kubuntulatorcan someone help me with my xorg.conf09:28
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:28
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N6REJnite again skreech09:30
Kubuntulatorwhat i want to know is how to fix the resoloution and toggle bewtween my laptop screen and the DVI out to my 32" LCD telly09:30
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Kubuntulatorany takers with my problem ?09:32
crazy_penguinGood morning to all!09:32
flaccidKubuntulator: if you can't do it by gui, you probably need to learn xorg09:32
N6REJmorning crazy_penguin09:33
Admiral_ChicagoN6REJ: odd, i can reproduce09:33
Admiral_Chicagobut I dunno, first I ever saw that behavior09:33
Kubuntulatoryeah i'm hoping theres a place that has some pre written stuff i can past in there09:33
N6REJAdmiral_Chicago: yeah, its weird... I've never seen this problem before.09:34
mikeykub: got a function key marked crt?09:34
mikeyon the lappy?09:34
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N6REJAdmiral_Chicago: whats really strange is if you view the file and then go back it will be there.  Iv'e seen this kind of behavior once before but can't remember how/when.09:35
mikeynite all09:35
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Kubuntulatorno i have medion 95400 laptop wiht an ati 9600 in it09:36
N6REJAdmiral_Chicago: it seems to be doing it to all the dynamic imagery.09:36
wolferinethere a good web programming channel?09:37
N6REJwolferine: what are you trying to learn/figure out09:37
Kubuntulatori can get a display on the monitor but ubuntu/kubuntu spits out a dodgy resoloution09:37
wolferineN6REJ, looking for projects (hopefully straight forward)09:38
N6REJKubuntulator: your going to have to tell kde about both "monitors" and what their specs are.09:38
N6REJwolferine: depends on what your experience is.  Sourceforge is a great place to pickup projects.09:38
Kubuntulatoryeah  the display settings will not detect it09:38
wolferinenoob projects :)09:39
N6REJKubuntulator: yeah, probably not.  Especially with the tv being lcd.09:39
N6REJwolferine: what languages are you fluent in?09:39
wolferinebut I want to experience  ALOT more php/mysql09:39
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N6REJwolferine: well, I can think of several programs that could use good coders... go look at virtuemart.net  There are tons of things that could use help.09:40
Kubuntulatorwhat forum would be the best place to go for someone to write some xorg code for me ?09:40
N6REJwolferine: I could tell you a list a mile long!09:40
N6REJwolferine: yep!09:41
flaccidKubuntulator: its not hard to learn09:41
flaccidthere is lots of stuff on the net09:41
flaccidit might just be a case of changing the res in xorg.conf for the second monitor to the desired res and thats it09:41
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flaccidso have a look at your xorg.conf, make a backup and start checking out :)09:41
wolferineso think you can pick something (or two) that a new person might be able to do?09:41
N6REJwolferine: the best way is to go there and look at the bug reports, then pic something your comfortable with.  either that or give me a few minutes and I'll chat with you privately.09:42
wolferineif you dont mind09:43
wolferinedirection is REALLY appreciated09:43
flaccidwolferine: just pick up a project and get involved. join the mailing list or whatever they have09:43
N6REJthats basically it... .I was just telling him that if he wants to join something that could really use some good effort, virtuemart is one.09:44
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wolferinejoining it now09:45
flaccidyeah its a bit weird telling someone a project to join09:45
N6REJflaccid: I know, I suggested he look at source forge too :P09:48
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N6REJwolferine: virtuemart09:48
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Davida nice software to build DVD's?09:52
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N6REJDavid: why kind of dvd's ?  I've been using k9copy09:54
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DavidN6REJ, to autogenerate menus, etc...09:55
DavidDVD Videos.09:55
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N6REJI think k3b does all that.09:55
mackyman_k3b is nice =)09:56
crazy_busalot of internet downloads have only wmv and mov.  Which format is the most free09:56
Davidcan I import video files?09:56
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dugis there a quicktime for linux?09:56
wolferineDaVId avi->DVD?09:56
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N6REJbedtime for me.09:57
N6REJ!k3b | david09:57
ubotudavid: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto09:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gambas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:58
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wolferineso flaccid do you know any easy web programming projects I might try?09:59
cpk1David: try kmediafactory if you want to make a dvd menu and stuff09:59
wolferinejust looking for something to help me learn it09:59
mackymandug: or to be more precise, quicktime librarys, and then you use another player (like the ones bundled with your version, koffeine in kde )09:59
Shura`hello, is anyone using Konversation ? I have 2 questions : how can I auto-auth (on quakenet for exemple) on connect  ? and can i auto-rejoin a channel after having being kicked ? thnks !09:59
flaccidwmv and mov are ms and apple. mov is better, both can be supported on linux and both are non-open09:59
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flaccidwolferine: i wouldn't recommend contributing to project if you havnt learn. go and learn first so when you contribute, your contribution is actually decent10:00
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crazy_busis mp4 non open as well?10:00
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flaccidyou don't need to contribute to a project to learn10:00
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mackymanShura`: wait a momento10:01
wolferineyeah, but I mean, is there something I can aim towards designing, that might be straight forward10:01
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dugso kaffeine will play quicktime movies10:01
flaccidcrazy_bus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_1410:01
Shura`mackyman : ok ty10:01
icecruncherperl: warning: Setting locale failed.10:01
dugor do i need codecs also10:01
icecruncherperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:10:01
icecruncher        LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en",10:01
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icecruncher    are supported and installed on your system.10:01
icecruncherperl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").10:01
icecruncheranybody any ideas??10:01
wolferinefor example, I did a website which sold flowers in school10:01
wolferine!pastebin | icecruncher10:02
ubotuicecruncher: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:02
icecruncherwolferine, i know, sorry about that10:02
flaccidwolferine: um anything is... there is so much php/mysql resources on the net. if you can't find something to make then you have an issue10:02
mackymanShura`: Auto-auth: File->Server list->Quakenet->Edit->Commands10:02
wolferineah, well thanks flaccid, I guess I obviously do10:02
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mackymanAnd enter the command for auth in there10:02
flaccidwolferine: if you browse sourceforge projects under php, im sure you will find something you can make your own of like a cms, ecomm cart, task manager, calendar whatever10:03
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jack_deltrinoHmm, I haven't kept up with the times. Do you need Java 1.4 with Java 1.6 now? Back with 1.5, 1.4 was still completely necessary, but does 1.6 have any special compatibility modes?10:04
Shura`mackyman : thank you !10:05
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crazy_busI read the wikipedia artical on mp4 but I'm still not sure if its open or closed.  Its says its nearly idetical to mov.  But it also says it used to be a ISO10:06
wolferineanyone else?10:06
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about phoenix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:11
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flaccidi think it would be open because its an ISO10:11
flaccidhas been ratified10:11
flaccidbut im not sure10:12
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flaccidi gtg10:12
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wolferineanyone know any easy web programming projects I might try?10:12
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nonudais there a way we can install rpm packages?10:16
Admiral_Chicagononuda: alien, but do you really need to, adept has most packages10:17
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ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)10:17
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rockprincesshello everyone! do you think it's possible to download and install the kde 3.5.6 packages from here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php, for my edubuntu edgy....edubuntu edgy currently uses KDE 3.5.510:18
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busfahrerrockprincess: You could also just wait for Feisty, its due next week and will include KDE 3.5.610:19
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Admiral_Chicagorockprincess: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list10:19
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nonudaAdmiral_Chicago: i need this http://www.janus-software.com/phoenix_download.html as u can see it doesn't available in deb format10:20
Admiral_Chicagoah, use alien10:21
rockprincessbusfahrer: I'd rather wait for Feisty after it passed the critical month....last time I upgraded from dapper to edgy (the same day as it was released) and lots of stuff wasn't working properly. it's a bit more critical on edubuntu with all these LTSP network configurations etc....10:21
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rockprincessAdmiral_Chicago: excellent, that's what I thought! I upgraded my Kubuntu machine quite easily...but I wondered if it would work the same way on Edubuntu as well :) THANK YOU10:22
Admiral_Chicagorockprincess: np10:22
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nonudaAdmiral_Chicago: ok..thanks10:23
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busfahrerrockprincess: Remember, it's basically the same distro, only differing in artwork and what's installed by default10:24
rockprincessbusfahrer: true, i thought it could be a bit more tricky since Edubuntu uses Gnome as its default window manager....10:25
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] [B] [o] [D] [o] [M] Hello :)10:30
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] [B] [o] [D] [o] [M] anyone know how to make system restore, load defaults or smt.. :/ ?10:38
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SilentDis*yawn* hello :)10:41
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mackymanMorning SilentDis10:43
SilentDismornin'.  :)10:43
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wolferine anyone able to recommend something to develop to help with learning php/mysql?10:45
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ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:46
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wolferineit appears since no one else is really talking, that that was for me?10:47
SilentDiswolferine: by 'learn', do you mean learn how to setup a LAMP environment, or learn to actually code in PHP?10:47
wolferinerecommend something to develop to help with learning php/mysql?10:47
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SilentDiswolferine: ahh.  a 'project' :)10:48
SilentDiswolferine: some basic ones:  a guestbook, a blog, a simple shopping cart, a image thumbnailer :)10:48
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wolferinewhat is a guestbook?10:49
dromerhi, does somebody know a command-line tool for converting swf to gif?10:49
mackyman__I have wounders same thing as Jucato...10:49
SilentDisdromer: swf is flash animation... you mean like output the individual frames into GIF files?10:49
SilentDiswolferine: a guestbook.  people visit the site, and leave comments.  :)10:50
mackyman__wolferine: A guestbook i a place where the visitors can place comments on the site ( and occationly, spambots to spam )10:50
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wolferinea really stripped down BB?10:51
SilentDiswolferine: gives you a decent basic understanding of opening a database and writing to it, or a flatfile, etc10:51
dromerSilentDis: well, I have this flash-file, and I want to use it in a presentation, but Powerpoint can't handle swf, so I want to move it to a different format10:51
mackyman__wolferine: something like that10:51
wolferineso a user needs to login?10:51
SilentDiswolferine: you could attach a login to it as well.  that would make for a bit more 'work' on your end :)10:51
dromerSilentDis: so preferably all the individual frames would be in a single animated gif10:52
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SilentDisdromer: there's no real dev packages for flash on linux yet, as it's all a closed environment... at least from what I've seen.10:52
dromerhmm, ok10:52
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SilentDiswolferine: if you did go with the logins, you could get fancy and do e-mail checks and such too.  might be a bit too much to bite off the first time in though ;)10:53
wolferineyeah, I agree10:53
wolferineso I just want to have a place like pastebin almost?10:53
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Admiral_ChicagoSilentDis: Gnasd10:54
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SilentDiswolferine: a guestbook shouldn't be too hard, ask for a name and a comment.  add that info to a MySQL db or a flat file, and apend it all to the bottom of the page.  very straightforward, and a good 'stepping stone'10:54
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ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/10:54
SilentDisAdmiral_Chicago: ty :)10:55
wolferineyes, sounds simple enough10:55
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wolferinecan I pm u SilentDis ?10:57
SilentDiswolferine: if you've !register ed, sure :)10:57
pollyoIt took me close to a month but I finally screwed up my system.10:57
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pollyoOh my...10:57
SilentDispollyo: grats!  lol10:57
pollyoAny way I can reinstall without disturbing my home directory?10:58
pollyoAnd or get all my modules resynced?10:58
pollyoI have three different kernels versions installed somehow.10:58
SilentDispollyo: is /home on a seperate partition?10:58
pollyoSilentDis: No. (Guess that is something to keep in mind for the future)10:59
pollyoSilentDis: Is there an option for it being on the same partition as everything else?10:59
cpk1pollyo: there's nothing wrong with having more than 1 kernel on your computer10:59
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SilentDispollyo: what cpk1 said :)10:59
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pollyocpk1: Ok.  My system will not boot and if I boot to a terminal I get no internet.11:00
SilentDispollyo: you can remove them if you want, but there's no harm in having them.  it's very rare to fill up /boot until you start kernel hacking, and you have 10+ lol11:00
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: all on one HDD?11:00
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: um. 3 kernels I mean :)11:01
Admiral_Chicago...thats not backup at all :)11:01
pollyoOK.  I think I might have mismatched the restricted drivers and the kernel versions.11:01
pollyoI was reading that could cause problems.11:01
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: oh I was reacting to cpk1 :)11:01
Admiral_Chicagoah I see Jucato11:01
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jack_deltrinoHow do I install Opera on Kubuntu?11:01
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser11:02
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: keep11:02
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: looking at it... still looking at other options...11:02
Admiral_Chicagobut...I don't do backups, probably should11:02
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pollyoShould I have generic or i386 or something else as a kernel?  My machien is a PIII11:02
jack_deltrinoAh, preferred way: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free11:03
Jucatopollyo: -generic11:03
Jucatopollyo: it's optimized and supported best11:03
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pollyoAny suggestions as to how to get my machine able to boot again?  I know I haven't shared much as to what is going on..11:04
pollyoBut I have generic, latency, and i386 bootup options.11:04
pollyoI was messing around with the restricted driver support and think I might have trashed my network support.11:04
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jack_deltrinopollyo: LiveCD in?11:05
pollyoCan I apt-get from the boot up CD and put the packages on the hard drive and install them?11:05
pollyojack_deltrino: Yes.  I am on Live CD now.11:05
jack_deltrinopollyo: Gotcha, the CD has a repository of its own that it adds by default to the top of the sources.list.11:05
hsn_can someone point me to www page with package search like packages.debian.org?11:05
Admiral_Chicagowow, i wish I knew python right about now11:05
jack_deltrinoer, .com11:05
pollyojack_deltrino: Ok.  Is there a basic recovery method to replace the underlyng system?11:06
jack_deltrinoAdmiral_Chicago: What do you need, I might be able to help.11:06
pollyojack_deltrino: That will reinstall the core packages?11:06
Admiral_Chicagojack_deltrino: i'm looking at bughelper, adding regex support. I'm just complaining really.11:06
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jack_deltrinopollyo: You could try apt-get --reinstall install kubuntu-desktop to get you your default desktop11:07
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icecruncher!update > icecruncher11:07
jack_deltrinoAdmiral_Chicago: import re and then work with python > help(re)11:07
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pollyojack_deltrino: How do I tell it to install to the harddrive?11:08
lupulcan anyone tell me please how i erase the files that kubuntu downloaded for upgrade11:08
hsn_jack_deltrino: thanks.11:08
jack_deltrinopollyo: What happens if you chroot in? What exactly happened to your system?11:08
Admiral_Chicagojack_deltrino: eh? not sure what that even means. I'm looking at a few cases of help, might look for you in a few minutes11:08
jack_deltrinolupul: They are in /var/cache/apt/archives11:08
lupulthank you very much11:09
pollyojack_deltrino: I was messing around with the restricted drivers and messed up my video.  At the same time I must have deleted some drivers that also worked the wireless network card.11:09
pollyojack_deltrino: I couldn't even get to the irc from a terminal.11:10
jack_deltrinoAdmiral_Chicago: import re "grabs" the regular expression module if you want to think of it that way. If you enter python in a terminal and then help(re) you'll see all the available functions11:10
pollyojack_deltrino: No telnet.  No network.11:10
lupuland when i use apt-get install it downloads them there also? in /var/cache/apt?11:10
keisangihow one could capture a command output into a txt file ?  i would like to capture the output i can see on screen when i do a postgres dump ... but when i try:  pg_dumpall -v > table.dump >> blah.txt   .... i get the actual database backed up into the text file lol .. instead of the output i see on screen when the dump take place ..11:10
jack_deltrinopollyo: As an aside, you shouldn't be using telnet any more.11:10
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keisangianyone, an idea ?11:10
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pollyojack_deltrino: Ok11:11
jack_deltrinokeisangi: command 1>>output.log 2>>output.log11:11
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Admiral_Chicagono the groundwork is all here, just need to wrap my mind around what I am doing11:11
jack_deltrinolupul: I believe so yes.11:11
pollyojack_deltrino: Any suggestions as to how to reinstall the base system?  I'm 30 days into linux.11:11
keisangijack_deltrino:  that would work without putting the actual database into my text file ?11:11
lupulstill a newbee :(11:11
pollyojack_deltrino: was doing fine but I started trying to do too much to fast.11:12
jack_deltrinojack_deltrino: Sorry, should have read more than just the first line of what you said.11:12
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jack_deltrinokeisangi: That was for you. But I'm not 100% familiar with PostgreSQL.11:12
pollyoAnyone have a suggestion on how to reinstall the base packages or is it even possible?11:13
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keisangijack_deltrino: ok, i'll try, thank for the help11:13
pollyoWithout having it destroy my home directory.11:13
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mardihi, there was a kernel upgrade last night?11:13
jack_deltrinopollyo: How about you copy files over somewhere like a removable storage device like a floppy or USB key?11:14
pollyojack_deltrino: I copied gigs of files to my homedirectory.11:14
jack_deltrinopollyo: Just wipe the installation and if you can't afford to lose your machine again, run Ubuntu and then a virtualized Ubuntu inside to test stuff.11:14
jack_deltrinopollyo: Hmm, well a 1 gb USB stick goes for about 10 bucks now.11:15
jack_deltrinopollyo: What about a DVD burner? Got one handy?11:15
pollyojack_deltrino: Its about 6-8 DVD's11:15
jack_deltrinoWow. Hmm, well I'll look into it, because I'd definitely like to know.11:15
jack_deltrinoSee if apt-cache search base gives you anything useful.11:16
jack_deltrinoI'm too lazy to look through all of it, as it's 2 in the morning and I have to get going early tomorrow.11:16
busfahrerHow do you mount a .bin/.cue CD image?11:17
pollyojack_deltrino: Can I  resize a partition on my drive and move my home directory onto the new partition?11:17
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pollyojack_deltrino: Then reinstall on the other partition?11:18
jack_deltrinopollyo: You can.11:18
bumzohi kubuntu pple11:18
jack_deltrinopollyo: But make sure to give your home directory enough space then.11:18
pollyojack_deltrino: Is resizing linux partitions safer then resizing ntfs?11:18
bumzowhat is ''drapper'' ?11:18
jack_deltrinopollyo: Definitely.11:18
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jack_deltrinopollyo: People still give the standard "backup your data" disclaimer though.11:18
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jack_deltrinoFrankly, I've never had problems with resizing either.11:19
CarinArrbusfahrer: a google search gives you like thousands of results for that11:19
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bumzojack: how do you resize linux partitions?11:19
pollyojack_deltrino: Ok.11:19
pollyojack_deltrino: Do I use the same partition program that is used to resize ntfs paritions?11:20
jack_deltrinopollyo: No. Especially not if you used ntfs-3g which actually uses Windows DLLs I believe.11:20
jack_deltrinoqtparted works just fine.11:20
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jack_deltrinoI thought you were using ntfsresize ;)11:20
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pollyojack_deltrino: If I mount my linux partition is there a command to calculate the size of my current home directory?11:22
pollyojack_deltrino: To give me an idea of the size of the partition to create/11:23
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jack_deltrinopollyo: du -skh /home/pollyo and then estimate how much more you might need.11:26
pollyook.. I guess I want to do du -sku /mnt/pollyo/home/pollyo11:27
pollyojack_deltrino:  70 Gig11:28
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pollyoThe entire partition is 148.34Gig..11:30
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pollyojack_deltrino: Will qparted give me any idea of how much free space is on the drive?11:31
jack_deltrinopollyo: I don't have one open to tell you that unfortunately.11:34
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pollyojack_deltrino: It does.  I have 148.34Gig partition and 109.25 is used.11:36
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pollyoI have an idea though.11:37
keisangijack_deltrino: thank that worked well :)11:37
keisangithat really helped me out :)11:38
pollyoThere must be someway to just reinstall the base kubuntu system.11:38
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jack_deltrinopollyo: Like I said, read through apt-cache search base. I don't know the answer and it doesn't seem like anyone else does at the moment.11:38
pollyojack_deltrino: Ok.11:38
pollyoapt-cahse search base11:39
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jack_deltrinoYou know copy-paste works wonders.11:39
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starterhello friends11:44
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startercan someone tell me where to put this:11:44
startersetxkbmap -layout 'us,mk' -option grp:switch -option grp:alt_shift_toggle -option grp_led:scroll11:44
starterin order to be executed at boot?11:44
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] [B] [o] [D] [o] [M] anybody know, where can get beryl plugins? :/11:46
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:47
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starteranyone can direct me to a tutorial for connecting from an XP machine to Kubuntu (KDE) via VNC?11:53
starterkrfb does not work by the way, tried it with UltraVNC and TightVNC11:53
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kgx0starter: search for freenx11:56
kgx0its like a better version of vnc11:57
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Black_Cati've installed about 20 games thru apt-get, but only 3rd part of them appeared in kmenu, what's the matter? isn't apt-get install enough?11:59
starterah damnit...I tried with vnc4server but it doesn't seem to work11:59
starteranyone used this config?12:00
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lupul!video editor12:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video editor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:02
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ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX12:05
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lupulsomeone knows a video editor? good one but free of course :D12:08
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] [B] [o] [D] [o] [M] !kde12:10
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.12:10
balroki tried avidemux.. but it's very small12:10
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balrokit doesn't have that much functions..12:10
lupulthanks anyway. i'll try it12:11
balrokmaybe you have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-92934.html12:12
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Black_Cati've installed about 20 games thru apt-get, but only 3rd part of them appeared in kmenu, what's the matter? isn't apt-get install enough?12:14
lupulabout games....  how do i start quake3 ? :D12:17
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lupuli downloaded it from torrents already installed, but i don't know how to make it work12:17
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] [B] [o] [D] [o] [M] !beryl rmp12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beryl rmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
] [B] [o] [D] [o] [M] !beryl rpm12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beryl rpm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
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superkirbyartistI need to enable direct rendering on the iMac G3.12:43
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yogii need to enable mp3 on my system, how do i do this.12:45
superkirbyartistYogi: go at a terminal and type12:46
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superkirbyartistsudo apt-get install madplay12:46
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yogisuperkirbyartist: thanks12:48
superkirbyartistNo problem Yogi.12:48
Jucato!mp3 | yogi12:48
ubotuyogi: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:48
superkirbyartistJucato, I think madplay will do.12:49
superkirbyartistAs soon as I installed it, I can play mp3s!12:49
Jucatosuperkirbyartist: on Amarok and Kaffeine?12:49
Jucatoand the embedded video player in Konqueror?12:49
superkirbyartistJucato, I usually prefer Somethingbox on Gnome, but this iMac G3 has KDE.12:50
superkirbyartistSo I use Amarok, and get a lot of garbage radio stations.12:50
Jucatoso delete those stations :)12:51
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Jucato(it's not like they play when you start amarok)12:51
superkirbyartistJucato: yes, but the devs force them to stay.12:51
Jucatoanyway, you didn't answer whether madplay will allow amarok and kaffeine to play mp3's avi's etc12:51
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Jucatoanyway, your call. if you're happy with it, no problem on my part12:52
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yogiwhat's the command to play .dat files ( these are movie files)12:53
superkirbyartist P.S don't use XGL it disables direct rendering.12:53
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ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)12:56
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ryielHey guys, can someone tell me how can i set my refresh rate to 75hz? my xorg.conf http://rafb.net/p/RWjoC945.html01:00
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pgquiles__Riddell: ping01:03
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ryielNo idea?01:04
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mackyman__ryiel: Try add @75 after the resulotion, eg:          Modes "1280x1024@75" "1152x864@75" "1024x768@75" "800x600@75" "640x480@75"01:07
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ryielok, im trying01:07
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Riddellpgquiles__: hi01:08
pgquiles__Riddell: hi01:08
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pgquiles__Riddell: will the SoC gdebi port for Qt/KDE be a new application or added features to Adept?01:08
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ryielNo luck, still 60hz01:09
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pollyoOh my...01:09
pollyoGetting this thing back in shape.01:09
Riddellpgquiles__: it'll be a port of the existing ubuntu one, separate from adept01:09
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starterhello again, I have disabled the KDE screensaver, and yet I still get a black screen aftera minute of inactivity, sometimes with a white "X"01:09
starterany solution for this? I would like to start the screensaver only manually ctrl-alt-L01:10
ryielmackyman__: any other idea?01:10
Riddellstarter: turn off power saving in system settings-> display01:11
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pollyoI some how went from generic to i386 and idea how I would go back?01:12
starterRiddell: it _is_ turned off :) checked it again right now01:12
pollyoI want generic kernel.01:12
starterany command like I could use?01:12
ryielAny idea guys why I cannot set the refresh rate to 75hz? my xorg.conf http://rafb.net/p/RWjoC945.html01:13
Riddellstarter: possibly remove DPMS from /etc/X11/xorg.conf then01:14
starterhmm, will try that01:15
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starterI have:01:17
starterSection "Monitor"01:17
starterjust remove Option"DPMS"?01:18
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pollyoIn adept there are quite a few linux-restricted-modules listed.  Are they autodetected or do you simply pick the latest?01:18
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mackyman__ryiel: Then I have no Idea01:22
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mackyman__And sorry for the late answet ;)01:23
mackyman__And oh... ryiel, I checked out a bit. Sorry, it shuld be @75hz and not01:23
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ryielok, i try that thanks01:26
tatterscould anyone tell me where in kcontrol the option is to set my screen resolution?01:27
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pgquiles_tatters: Peripherals -> Monitor & Display01:39
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ryielmackyman__: this @75hz doesnt work01:42
ryielany other idea?01:42
s-tonedI can't run khotkeys standalone, only from within kcontrol. Is this a bug?01:42
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s-tonedThe message is: "ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed."01:43
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keyo_hello ;)01:48
amdiakBonjour tout le monde; je suis nouveau ubuntiens01:48
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amdiakQeulqu'un peut m'aider?01:49
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keyo_I only understand 10 or so french words :)01:49
amdiakhello keyo, my english is not too good but we can try01:50
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keyo_you have a problem?01:51
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:51
anti_pophow do i update my bios with linux >?01:51
amdiakok ubotu mai scomment je suis tout bleu?01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about about - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:51
keyo_ubotu is a bot not a person amdiak01:52
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:52
amdiakkeyo I upgrade my system from ubuntu dapper drake to kubuntu edgy eft and now my gnome is not working properly01:53
keyo_can anyone tell me what i need to do to give my user account perminent root rights01:53
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keyo_amdiak: what version of gnome01:54
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angasulekeyo_: add the user to the 'admin' group, I think01:55
amdiakeh don't know, I think the one for Edgy eft (Ubuntu 6.10)01:55
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keyo_angasule: i will try, i think i am already in that group, i need to be able to edit all files/folders or else my webserver is useless01:56
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angasulekeyo_: to edit files as root, you can right click on a file (in konqueror) and go to 'Actions' and 'edit as root'01:57
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keyo_angasule: i know but i need to be able to make a new folder for all my php files, then they need to be edited by apache or whatever01:58
angasulekeyo_: if you will be editing many files, it might be better to press ALT+F2 and run 'kdesu kate' (kdesu is like sudo but for KDE programs)01:58
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angasulekeyo_: ubuntu uses sudo, are you familiar with it?01:59
keyo_angasule: is there a way i can make myself a root user perminantly01:59
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angasulekeyo_: if you type 'sudo su' in a console, you will be root there01:59
amdiakKeyo, are thinking of my problme?01:59
keyo_angasule: yes i am, my account needs full privilledges so my webserver is functional02:00
amdiakBut when you tape sudo, you are already root!02:00
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:00
angasuleno, you type sudo as a user, to execute programs as root02:00
amdiakthat's true ubotu02:01
keyo_i know what sudo and sudo su do, i've used them often i guess i need to make my user part of the root group02:01
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keyo_amdiak: ubotu is a computer02:01
amdiakho! ok do you have a solution for me?02:02
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keyo_type !something and it will respond02:04
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ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)02:04
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amdiakI said that I upgrade my system from Dapper Draker to Edgy eft Kubuntu, since that my gnome desktop dons't work properly02:05
keyo_from kubuntu to kubuntu?02:06
keyo_what happens when you try to start a gnome session02:06
angasuleamdiak: gnome? you might want to ask in #ubuntu02:06
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amdiakask in #ubuntu, what is that?02:07
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amdiakok it's a channel I see thanks!02:08
keyo_im not getting anywhere with this root thing02:09
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keyo_it doesn't seem to let me join the root group02:10
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sonoftheclayrkeyo_: i think you need to add the user to the sudoers file02:10
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bobdhicksNewbie needs help. I have version 6.10. Using Adept Manager, I did a Fetch updates. After that finished, I chose a calculator program and tried to install it.All the downloading worked. The installation has stalled at 1% with "Preparing upgrade of sun-java-bin...". It has frozen at this installation before and I have had to clean up the mess before I could use Adept Manager again. Can someone suggest what I can do to get out of this02:12
sonoftheclayrbobdhicks: with jave you need to agree to a license02:12
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Flegmado you have some idea how to solve it???02:13
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Nusclytry to see if there are a message in the adept konsole02:14
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FlegmaNuscly: where???02:16
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NusclyFlegma: there are a show details button, or something like that near the progress bar02:17
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NusclyFlegma: of adept install02:17
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bobdhicksWhen I use show details, there is a license. I can't click on OK. How can I agree in Adept Manager?02:19
FlegmaNuscly: Kmix??02:19
FlegmaNuscly:  no message....02:19
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angasulebobdhicks: try pressing 'enter'02:20
Nusclybobdhicks: type y and then enter to accept02:20
Jucatobobdhicks: what are you trying to install using Adept?02:21
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FlegmaNuscly:  i tried to remove kmix and install again...but no change...02:22
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michashi ;f02:23
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NusclyFlegma: What is your problem ?02:24
FlegmaNuscly: i cant hear sound and kmix shows bubble with "Mixer cannot be found"02:25
Flegmai tried to recompike drivers, reinstall kmix..02:25
Flegmabut..nothnig.. :(02:26
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bubs_is there anyone there can help me with installing kubuntu problem?02:28
_4strOwich pb ?02:28
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bubs_i cannot do aptitude update02:29
NusclyFlegma: it's sounds like your sound card is not well supported, or recognized02:29
FlegmaNuscly:  but, yesterday it was ok...02:30
NusclyFlegma: what's your sound card ?02:30
NusclyDo you plug usb device ?02:30
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FlegmaNuscly: but...02:30
_4strObubs_: sudo aptitude update ?02:30
bubs_i have a fresh install of kubuntu that will not update02:30
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FlegmaNuscly:  sorry....i pluged usb disk...02:30
_4strObubs have u internet ?02:31
bubs_4astro i don't seem to get any connection02:31
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_4strOthat the reason why :p02:31
bobdhicksI managed to crash Adept. I went to Konsole to clean up the mess. Tried to do an apt-get upgrade there. Back to the same problem. Have license showing.  I've tried <enter>, <y> <enter>, can't do <ok>. How do I agree to the license?02:31
FlegmaNuscly: do you have any idea pls?02:31
bubs_4astro i'm tqalkin to you via it right now02:32
_4strObobdhicks: with the TAB key ?02:32
countjocularbobdhicks: try <tab> to get to the OK button, then <space> to accept. Not sure if I'm right there - quoting from memory.02:32
NusclyFlegma: not usb webcam or sound card...02:32
_4strObubs ok02:32
FlegmaNuscly:  no...02:32
_4strOcat /etc/resolv.conf ?02:33
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bubs_4 astro i have installed edgy on another pc on my network it seems ok02:33
_4strObubs_: on what's happen when you apt-get update ?02:34
_4strOsudo apt-get update02:34
bobdhickscountjocular: Thanks. That worked.02:34
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carstentackat: mind also updating the rdf in kalzium?02:35
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bubs_4astro amongst other things i get an error 113 unable to connect02:35
tackatcarsten: Hm?02:35
carstenthe news.rdf02:36
tackatAh, you mean I should add the text?02:36
bubs_4astro the whole thing seems to time out - non connection02:36
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carstentackat: with a link to http://code.google.com/soc/kde/appinfo.html?csaid=3EBDFAAF85EFFA0002:36
_4strObubs_: you cant join google page in konqueror ?02:37
bubs_4astro i've tried reinstall and redits of sources list all to no avail02:37
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countjocularbobdhicks: np.02:37
silence_can anyone help me02:37
_4strOsilence_: ask ...02:37
silence_okay im new to this thing........ and i want to get "alien" running..02:38
silence_i installed it in the adept manager thingie but i cant find it02:38
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_4strOsilence_: /usr/bin/alien ?02:38
_4strOsilence_: tu use it : alien [option]  package02:39
bubs_4astro i'll try google page02:39
silence_its there.... but how to i get it run.......02:39
FlegmaNuscly:  notjing?? :(02:39
_4strOsilence_: alien --help02:39
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_4strObubs_: konqueror http://www.google.com02:40
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tattersAnyone run KDE know how to invoke applet to change screen resolution?02:40
_4strOif u dont get the page i think your pb is in the DNS02:40
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bubs_4astro google fires up no problem02:40
angasuletatters: have you looked in the system settings?02:41
_4strObubs_: ok ...02:41
tattersI cannot find the option anywhere in menus02:41
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bubs_4astro i seem to have a system that functions ok but just won't make contact 4 uopdate02:41
_4strOmmm bo reason02:42
tattersyup tried there. problem is I use TV as monitor in gnome I set resoltion to 00x800,,but when I login to KDE it sets the resolution too hig so I cannot see02:42
bubs_i have been messin a few days with this and tried reinstalls02:42
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_4strObubs_: what you have when you do : sudo apt-get update ?02:42
bubs_4astro i'll run that02:43
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tattersis there any command in terminal I can type which will open up the gnome applet which changes screen resolution?02:44
_4strOtatters: there should be one :p02:45
tattersyah but what :/02:45
_4strOtatters: sorry dont have gnome02:45
bubs_4astro i get - err  113 no route to host02:45
tatterswhat about in KDE?02:45
NusclyFlegma: Try to see if it's working with a kubuntu live cd02:45
NusclyFlegma: I don't see why it stop working02:45
tackatcarsten: done02:46
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_4strObubs_: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list somexhere ?02:46
tatterscan de run in 600x800 or does it need a higher resolution02:46
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bubs_4astro ok please suggest where02:47
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_4strObubs_: look at the topic02:47
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bubs_4astro forgive a noob - i see it02:47
_4strOtatters: sure he can02:48
treqhello, i can't find w32codecs and libdvdcss2 for some reason02:48
treqanyone knows why?02:48
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treqi marked all the repositories02:48
_4strOtreq --> medibuntu02:48
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Jucato!w32codecs | treq02:49
ubotutreq: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs02:49
treqonly w32codecs and libdvdcss2 will work right?02:50
treqno need for more packs like gstreamer etc?02:50
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_4strOtreq: dont know02:51
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administradorwhat is this?02:52
administradorsome body from argentina?02:52
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treq_4str0, i can use ubuntu repositories even if i got kubuntu?02:52
treqsame ones?02:52
administradortreq where are you from?02:52
_4strOtreq: yep02:52
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:52
gabztreq: yeah they are exactly the same02:52
treqk thx02:52
Jucatotreq: the repositories for Kubuntu and Ubuntu are one and the same02:53
bubs_4astro - i've put sources list in pastebin02:53
_4strOyes and the install is very easy with kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop ..02:53
_4strObubs_: url ?02:53
bubs_i'm a noob at all this - forgive my hamfistedness02:54
_4strOno pb :p02:54
bubs_4astro http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15210/02:54
_4strOi'm a noob too (who try to help others noob)02:54
bubs_i was using im as area code but no joy with that either02:55
treqmy god that sos repo is slow :P02:55
bubs_ty noob :)02:55
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_4strObubs_: your sources.list is correct02:56
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bubs_4astro - i have two pcs networked the other's area code is im would this cause problems?02:57
stevethepirateWhat teh command to upgrade to feisty? I have edited source list corretly..02:57
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bubs_4astro - i had both machines as im originally but had same problem02:58
_arafatstevethepirate: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:58
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_4strObubs_: mmm02:58
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bubs_4astro the gb thing was just to see if my im connection was failing for some reason02:59
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stevethepirateE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)02:59
stevethepirateE: Unable to lock the list directory02:59
stevethepirateGet that error02:59
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_4strOstevethepirate: close adept ...02:59
bubs_my other pc is at version .1102:59
_4strObubs_: are you firewalled ?03:00
stevethepirateya.. it was straggling in the backgrounf.. pkill fixes all ;)03:00
stevethepiratecan someone check if openarena is native to feisty please03:00
bubs_not on linux but i'm dual boot on windows yes03:00
_4strOstevethepirate: it is03:00
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bubs_i thnk the router has a hardware firewall03:01
_4strObubs_: i dont know haw apt connect the internet03:01
stevethepirate_4strO: ta03:01
_4strOi will googlise :p03:01
bubs_ok - though i've done much searching03:02
stevethepiratefeisty is irritating... you have to edit fstab..03:02
stevethepiratesince almost all hdd's are now /dev/sda's03:02
_4strObubs_: http (80)03:02
bubs_4astro - how come i have an internet connection?03:03
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_4strObubs_: langage ?03:04
_4strOfr ?03:04
stevethepirateanyone know of like a full konsole based music player?03:04
bubs__english uk03:04
_4strOstevethepirate: mplayer03:04
stevethepiratebut that is like a single file player..03:04
stevethepiratei'm looking for like a a konsole amarok03:05
_4strOmplayer /dir03:05
stevethepiratei need someting with like search capapbilites.03:05
stevethepirateand with playlisting03:05
_4strOstevethepirate: good lucl :p03:05
stevethepiratesurely there is one..03:06
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_4strObubs_ : dont understand the question03:06
stevethepirateit would make life easy.. for it to run in yakuake.. then for file changing, etc.. its like -right- there.03:06
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bubs__4astro - i'll try to rephrase03:07
_4strOok thx (im a poor french)03:07
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bubs__4astro - ok je ne palre pas francais peutetre un peu mais ...03:08
bubs__je comprends il est difficile03:09
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_4strObubs_ > your question was : how can i sure i'm connect to internet ?03:09
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bubs__4astro - no03:09
_4strOok :p03:09
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:09
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bubs__4astro - i cannot get update to work03:10
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_4strObubs_ because you cant reach updates servers03:10
bubs__4astro - i get just error messages and timeouts03:10
bubs__4astro - i think so03:10
_4strObubs_ > sudo kate /etc/resolv.conf03:11
_4strOand put03:11
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Jucato!kdesu | _4strO03:12
ubotu_4strO: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo03:12
_4strObubs_ ok ?03:12
Jucato(also for bubs)03:12
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redmonkeybest solution for all computer related problems: throw that damn thing outta the windows!:)03:12
bubs__4astro! lol i have left adept running and it has just reached 3% waiting for headers03:13
bubs__i don't believe it03:13
stevethepirate12 minute fiesty upgrade.. record time.03:13
redmonkeyerr, window03:13
_4strObubs__: lol03:13
bubs__first time its moved in days03:13
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_4strOwhat is your connection ?03:13
_4strOdial modem ?03:13
bubs__hi speed lol03:14
bubs__lol 5% ?03:15
bubs__it was 6% a minute ago03:15
_4strObubs__: you change the resolv.conf ?03:15
bubs__not yet03:15
_4strOok dont change it ...03:15
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bubs__7% now03:15
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bubs__4astro ok03:16
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bubs__woooo 9%03:17
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_4strObubs__: if you try to dl the ubuntu livecd is it slowly too ?03:18
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bubs__it was fine - but i dl on other machine03:18
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bubs__two machines are similar but one is intel the other amd03:20
_4strObubs__: not a pb of box performance03:20
_4strOdont think so03:20
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bubs__4astro - it is strange - it seems reluctant to connect03:22
bubs__4astro but its reached 16% now03:22
bubs__4astro - how can a grown man get excitement from such a thing?03:26
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stefan__hey hello i have a question about root previlages03:26
stefan__can someone help me03:26
bubs__4astro - its not moved from 16% but i'll just leave it - maybe it will wake up again later03:26
Jucato!someone | stefan__03:26
ubotustefan__: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:26
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_4strObubs__: ...03:26
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stefan__can someone help me get root previlages in y normal acount so i can use virtualbox?03:26
bubs__4astro - looks like it timed out i'm back to main screen again03:26
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Jucato!sudo | stefan__03:26
ubotustefan__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:26
stefan__like sudo virtualbox?03:27
stefan__command not fount03:27
bubs__4astro it looks like it connects but it is too slow and it times out03:28
_4strOyes bubs__03:28
bobdhicksI trying to install a program through Konsole. "python setup.py install". The following is the output "03:28
bobdhicksrunning install03:28
bobdhicksrunning build03:28
bobdhicksrunning build_py03:28
bobdhickscreating build03:28
bobdhickserror: could not create 'build': Permission denied03:28
bubs__4astro - i've set it going again03:28
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Jucato!paste | bobdhicks03:28
ubotubobdhicks: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:28
_4strObobdhicks: sudo python setup.py install03:28
Jucatostefan__: I guess you need to install virtualbox first03:29
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stefan__i hav done that03:29
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels03:29
ewgeni90do is chat with all countries?03:29
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)03:29
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_4strObubs__: i dont know what to say, but i think the pb is on your internet connection03:30
bubs__4astro it doesn't resume from where it stopped - its started at 0% again03:30
_4strOyes normal bubs__03:30
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stevethepiratewhats a god port scanner?03:30
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_4strObubs__: try to do : sudo apt-get update othewhise using adept03:31
bubs__4astro - could be - but everything else works fine03:31
stevethepirate!port scanner03:31
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stevethepirate! port scanner03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about port scanner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:31
_4strOstevethepirate: nmap03:31
_4strO!nmpa | stevethepirate03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nmpa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:31
_4strO!nmap | stevethepirate03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:31
bubs__4astro i was getting partial success on adept manager03:32
_4strObubs__: but you see anything what he do03:32
bubs__4astro - nothing now though03:32
bubs__4astro - just message - waiting for headers03:33
bubs__4astro it got to 16% then stopped03:33
_4strObubs__: perhaps the GB servers are dead :p03:34
bubs__4astro - now i have only0%03:34
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Iwonder|toobubs__: try ping www.google.com,you may have an unusually slow network atm03:34
bubs__but i tried im too03:34
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)03:34
bubs__4 astro - im = isle of man03:34
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bubs__wonder - mi have been unable to connect to update server on this machine for days the other machine connects fine03:35
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Iwonder|tooit may be a firewall,network,route,dns error on that machine,, ping a known host for time comparisons03:36
bubs__wonder - i'm a noob - i understand a little of what you are saying but i don't know how03:37
Iwonder|tooopen console type ping www.google.com03:38
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bubs__wonder - thanks for the advice though03:38
Iwonder|toohit ctrl+c to stop the ping03:38
bubs__wonder - i'll try that03:38
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Iwonder|tooyou should get times like 43.4 ms or something03:40
bubs__wonder - the longest was-03:40
bubs__wonder - 64 bytes from www.google.com ( icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=51.6 ms03:40
Iwonder|took bubs__thats good03:40
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Iwonder|tooyour network is fine03:40
Iwonder|toowhat are you trying to install?03:40
bubs__well i think its just this connecting to ubuntu servers thats giving me problems03:41
bubs__wonder adept manager is now showing 10% headers doen03:41
Iwonder|toothe ubuntu server may be having problems,try installing with apt-get install03:41
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bubs__wonder - i'm trying to get updates on a fresh install03:42
Iwonder|tooor better yet close adept ,open console type apt-get update03:42
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_4strOIwonder|too: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15210/03:42
Iwonder|toothen you can read what its doing03:42
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_4strOsomething wrong 4 u ?03:43
bubs__wonder - i been trying all this for a few days now03:43
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Iwonder|tooi see nothing wrong03:44
bubs__wonder - i now have 12% headers down - last time adept manager quit at 16%03:44
Iwonder|toohave you tried getting a fresh source list from http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/03:44
bubs__nope - but bandwidth restrictions discourage me from it03:45
Iwonder|tooits just a list bubs__03:46
Iwonder|tooits an online list maker of current accepted sources03:46
bubs__wonder - sorry i misunderstood - i thought you meant redownload the install cd03:46
strHi all03:46
strIn aptitude, how can I know wich repository does a package come form?03:46
bubs__wonder - thanks - i'm trying that03:47
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bobdhicksWith help here, I've successfully installed a program. Now I'm trying to configure it. Please see:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15218/04:05
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bubs__wonder - are you still around?04:09
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bubs__wonder i swapped my source file and am still getting err - connect (113 No route to host)04:14
bubs__wonder - connection times out04:14
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Taladanhaving an odd issue.  I had to replace my mobo and proc a week or so ago, and now whenever I try to run anything that's OpenGL, it logs me out of my current session of Kubuntu.  Currently running Edgy on an Nvidia Geforce (2 I think??).  The only thing that changed was the Motherboard and Processor, not the video card.04:14
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compilerwriterI have evidently, inadvertantly, setup Kontackt to empty my trash can every time I shut the program.  Where in blazes do I need to go to change this.04:14
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aurelianitoI'm using kubuntu since ubuntu dapper04:14
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aurelianitoand im04:14
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aurelianito having a problem with a USB cable modem04:14
compilerwriteraurelianito I am not shocked about that at all.04:14
aurelianitothe modem is detected when I run with the dapper kernel (2.6.15)04:14
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compilerwriterI have had absolutely no success with getting any usb modem connection to work with Ubuntu or Kubuntu or DSL.04:14
aurelianitobut is not detected with the new kernel (2.6.17, I think)04:14
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aurelianitosorry, DSL04:15
aurelianitoThe modem is a Huawei SmartAX MT88204:15
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compilerwriteraurelianito I was referring to Damn Small Linux not the dsl internet.04:15
aurelianitoIt has dual connection (USB and Ethernet) but my PC has only USB connections04:16
compilerwriteraurelianito the easiest solution I have for you is to spring the $10 for an ethernet card.  The rest would be way over my head.04:16
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aurelianitoI've tried to recompile the 2.6.17 kernel (googled for instructions) but, while it compiled, it hanged up my  PC when I've tried to boot it04:17
compilerwriteraurelianito You just jumped into Marianis Trench without a wet suit as far as I am concerned.  I have never tried to compile a kernal.04:18
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compilerwriteraurelianito I am sorry I am such poor help, but like I said the easiest way to do it would be to get yourself that nic card.04:19
aurelianitodoes anybody know the changes made to the compilation options in the kernel between dapper and edgy-eft04:19
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Taladananother question that's more kubuntu oriented - in System Settings, when I try to go into the 'User MAnagement' section under computer administration, It tells me 'The Module User Management could not be loaded.'....it's done this since I installed Kubuntu, so I don't think the bit about orphaned control modules or third party modules is exactly...spot on.04:21
jttaurelianito: as in changes to  gcc?04:23
JucatoTaladan: try reinstalling the package named "kde-guidance"04:23
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TaladanJucato - will do, thank you04:23
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aurelianitoas in changes to the compilation options04:24
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aurelianitoare there modules not compiled in the new version?04:24
Jucatoaurelianito: I think there's an #ubuntu-kernel channel...04:24
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aurelianitoon which server?04:25
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Jucato(all ubuntu channels are on freenode)04:25
jttaurelianito: look at the change log for the various ubuntu kernels04:25
Jucatoor rather, irc.ubuntu.com04:25
Jucatowhich just redirects to freenode.org04:25
[GuS] Hello!04:26
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TaladanJucato: No soap, gives me the same error04:27
jack_can someone have a look at that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15220/?04:27
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JucatoTaladan: ah.. hm... no ideas :(04:27
jack_trying to install that driver thats what i get, whats wrong04:27
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milaksHi. I've installed ubuntu Edgy Eft for amd64, and then I've modified /etc/apt/sources.list acordingly to guidlines at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy Now, do I need to modify those addresses somehow to install amd64 version packages or will it do that automatically?04:28
Taladanjack_: Sounds like gutenprint doesn't work well with cups on the same system?04:28
jack_Taladan: i tried to delete cups04:29
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jack_       taladan         sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends cupsys-driver-gimpprint04:30
jack_Taladan: but obviously it didnt seem to work?04:30
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Taladanobviously...are you wanting to remove cups entirely from your system?04:31
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milaksAnyone? Thank you.04:31
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Taladanmilaks - that depends on the repos you're pointing to04:32
jack_taladan ..i dont mind, but in cups my printer doesnt show up, so i need to get the gutenberg thing;thats most important04:32
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Taladanif it ends in something like http://something/foo/something.i386, then no.04:32
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Taladanjack_: What printer do you have?04:32
jack_epson dx505004:33
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milaksTaladan: I've added these proposed repositories http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Installing_Additional_Software and now i would like to now, is that ok in order to use them to install packages optimized for my platform?04:33
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milaksTaladan: I guess that there would be some kind of a note on the site if that is the case04:33
jack_Taladan: epson dx505004:33
Taladanjack_: generally with the epsons and the hp's as long as you pick the closest model of the printers it generally prints....04:33
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jack_Taladan: as its an allinone, i anted that copy functionanscan to work too, i found this how to, soomeone said it worked for this printer04:35
jack_jack@fluffy:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i guten*.deb04:35
gekkoodoes anybody know how i can bring the kicker panel into the front with a _command_ (default setting of the panel is hidden)?04:35
jack_Selecting previously deselected package gutenprint.04:35
jack_(Reading database ... 214943 files and directories currently installed.)04:35
jack_Unpacking gutenprint (from gutenprint_5.0.0-1_i386.deb) ...04:35
jack_dpkg: error processing gutenprint_5.0.0-1_i386.deb (--install):04:35
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jack_ trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/cups-calibrate', which is also in package cupsys-driver-gutenprint04:35
jack_dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)04:35
jack_Errors were encountered while processing:04:35
jack_ gutenprint_5.0.0-1_i386.deb04:35
jack_oh so sorry04:35
Taladanmilaks: Chances are it should autodect your architecture...should be safe04:35
milaksAha, I guess I can continue using those repos. I've looked into them and there are three versions of every package: sparc, amd64, i386 and powerpc.04:36
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jack_Taladan: i meant this how to http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Installing_more_printer_support_with_guten-print_5.0.0_final_package%2104:36
Jucato!paste | jack_04:36
ubotujack_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:36
jack_Taladan: what do you think?04:36
Taladanjack_: I think that I would use cups for the print function and sane for the copy/scan functions04:37
livenicelyno soound when i play .dat or vcd in keffiene04:37
Taladanbut then...04:37
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TaladanI don't know anything about gutenprint...cups pretty much handles everything I need it to do04:37
jack_Taladan: i wanted to avoid sane at all cost, cos with an canon and epson hardware i had horrrible trouble there04:38
jack_Jucato: sorry that was by accident, i used the pastebin above04:38
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jack_taladan: so i shouldnt delete the cups?04:38
TaladanWell...you might get the GIMP set up to pull from the scanner, but I don't know, as I don't really use scanners all that much.  My wife's got one on her desktop and we use sane for that one.04:39
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Taladanjack_:I wouldn't, no, but if you decide to, you're probably going to want to do something a little more drastic like apt-get remove cups....but I don't know if or how you'll break your system doing that.04:39
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jack_Taladan: ok i rather not do that, thing is that printer came out recently, but i hope cups supports it then in feisty soon04:40
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Arwenevery screenshot of a *nix desktop seems to have a system stats monitor for a side panel... and I can't figure out what package that is?04:41
Iwonder|tooprinter problems are mostly easily resolved with a ethernet capable print server04:41
Taladanjack_: Might have to futz with the current epsons in cups and see what you can get it to do...but as far as I know, cups doesn't support scanners...it's called Common Unix Printing System for a reason ;)04:42
TaladanArwen - probably something like gkrellm04:42
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ArwenTaladan, ah, thanks, that's the one I'm thinking of04:42
Iwonder|tooisn't sane for scanners?04:43
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wilmani have a very simple problem but i don't know how to solve this. i use a plugin for amarok to duplicate the sound. it's called pcm.duplicate. the problem is that everytime i set the plugin it resets after startup04:43
TaladanIwonder|too: yeah, but jack_ says he's had problems with it04:43
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Iwonder|toohmmm,i haven't tried using my scanner,loooks like i got a new hobby,lol04:44
ArwenI'm a dumbass... I thought my sound card died when it turns out my volume was at 0...04:44
Taladanwilman: that might be better answered by the folks in #amarok...I don't personally know much about how the plugins system works with it04:44
TaladanArwen: hehs04:45
TaladanI only laugh because, well, I've done similar04:45
TaladanMan, I really wish I could get this opengl issue cleared up04:45
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bobdhicksWith help here I installed a program but I'm having trouble configuring it Please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15218/04:45
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wilmanTaladan: this irc is totaly empty:)04:46
Jucato#amarok ?04:47
Jucato(make sure you entered the right channel)04:47
Taladanwilman: hm?  #amarok has like 50 people in there04:47
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wilmanTaladan: yea sorry but you sent a link to amarok...04:47
pollyoAnyone know how to correct the following error when attempting to run beryl04:48
JucatoTaladan: he probalby just clicked on what you typed04:48
wilmanthe first time;)04:48
Iwonder|toolook in the help on amarok,it should have a contact for support04:48
pollyoXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:48
pollyoRoot visual is not a GL visual04:48
jack_Taladan: printing works fine using the cups with epson dx4800 instead of dx5050, testing the scanning later, thanks anyway from protecting me to break my system, lol04:48
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Taladanjack_: Hope you get it working ;)04:48
Iwonder|toopollyo: is direct rendring working?04:49
pollyoIwonder|too: How do you check?04:49
Iwonder|tooglxinfo|grep rendering usually04:49
Taladanpollyo: when I tried beryl I got the same error...I can't remember what or where the fix is (but I think it's on the beryl wiki)04:49
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pollyoIwonder|too: I get the same message when I put that in.04:50
Iwonder|toopollyo: also read your /var/log/Xorg.o.log04:50
Iwonder|tooyou are missing opengl04:50
Iwonder|toothats a .0(zero)04:51
Taladanassuming pollyo is running an nvidia card, needs the nvidia-glx module04:51
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Iwonder|tooshould have asked04:51
pollyoTaladan: Is that a software module?04:51
Taladanpollyo: It's a kernel module04:52
Iwonder|tooand i think ati is fglx04:52
ubuntuTwo days using it and I b0rked something.  :P04:52
Taladanpollyo apt-cache search nvidia-glx04:52
Taladanubuntu: that does happen...getting wet and wild with sudo is sometimes dangerous fun :p04:53
ubuntuNo kidding04:53
ubuntuActually, it's far less exciting than that04:53
TaladanWhat's up?04:53
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ubuntuI have an ATI card04:53
Iwonder|toowhich ati card?04:54
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Arwenick, ATI :-\04:54
TaladanProblemo numero uno04:54
ubuntuAti radeon 9800SE04:54
Arwenick, ATI SE04:54
ubuntuActually, everything was pretty functional with the default drivers, but 3d was slow as mud and I'm trying to get blender to work04:54
TaladanAnyways, continue04:54
Iwonder|toomine works great using radeon04:54
ubuntuAnyway, I was messing around, and I picked--being the second coming of einstein that I am--the 'proprietary' drivers. Just to experiment, you know?04:55
Iwonder|toogad to use xorg driver though never figured out ati ones04:55
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ubuntuBoom, I restart and I get a big, fat 'BAD REFRESH RATE' error popping up on my monitor04:55
Taladanexperimentation happens04:55
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ubuntuAnyway, so I WANT to go back to the first driver, any way I can do that short of reinstalling?04:55
Taladanubuntu: bet you don't know what the refresh rate your monitor is supposed to be set at, do you?04:56
ubuntuOne sec04:56
Iwonder|tooisn't there a adept package for xorg-server configure?04:56
Taladanyeah, but I think he has to have X running for that to work04:57
Iwonder|tooin the future ubuntu back up your Xorg.conf when experimenting04:57
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Taladanhe can hand edit the Xorg.conf at the command line if he knows enough vi to get by.04:57
Iwonder|tooi think it runs Xorg-configure04:57
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ubuntuI have a backup04:58
ubuntuI just don't know how to get it unpacked04:58
ubuntuDon't know enough commands04:58
tuxis it a good idea to upgrade to feisty already?04:58
Taladanhow is it packed ubuntu04:58
Iwonder|tooubuntu: use mv <backup> /etc/X11/Xorg.conf04:58
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Iwonder|toothen restart X04:58
TaladanIwonder|too: if he's got it tar'd up then that'll munge it04:58
ubuntuI'll give that a try, then. :P04:59
tuxif you have a ati video card: aticonfig --initial04:59
ubuntuNo, no tar04:59
Iwonder|toooh very true04:59
ubuntuI just renamed it conf_back04:59
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Iwonder|toountar it then mv it04:59
ubuntuMv, is it?04:59
Iwonder|toomv = move/rename04:59
ubuntuCool. Right on.04:59
tuxis feisty stable enough for a upgrade?04:59
pollyoI am showing nvidia-glx-legacy04:59
ubuntubrb, gonna give it a shot. :P05:00
Taladantux - depends, what are you using it for?05:00
tuxdesktop usage Taladan05:00
Iwonder|tootux i;m on feisty05:00
Taladantux - then probably.05:00
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tuxthe release candidate05:00
pollyoCan the nvidia-glx-legacy run beryl?05:00
Iwonder|toowell i changed my repos and did dist-upgrade05:00
Taladanpollyo - should be able to, if you've got an older nvidia card05:00
jtttux: been using feisty for 8 weeks05:01
Taladanchances are it's going to be slow as hell though05:01
jtttux: no problems05:01
tuxjtt tried it a couple of weeks ago, but it wasnt really good05:01
pollyoTaladan: I feel like it is an xorg.conf problem.05:01
jtttux: specifics about the problems05:01
pollyoTaladan: I do not know enough about it to sort it out.05:01
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tuxrunning slow, network problems05:01
TaladanPollyo - I'm pretty sure I found the solution on the beryl wiki...just put in your error message in the search box05:02
pollyoTaladan: I was reading it could also be the way something is compiled.05:02
jtttux: what hardware05:02
pollyoTaladan:  Ok. Thanks.05:02
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tuxAcer Aspire 5670, Core duo T2250 (1,73ghz), 2gb RAM, ATI X1600 video card 512mb05:03
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jtttux:  lspci -vv  what ethernet hardware05:04
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tuxjtt: Intell Pro Wireless05:04
tuxjtt: you got no problems with feisty ATM?05:05
jtttux: interseting that the whole bundle would appear slow i have had little problem on 3 different hw platforms05:05
jtttux: no slowdown on any of the three  keep plugging05:06
tuxjtt: if i use dist-upgrade, i'd still have my drivers installed so it should work05:06
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tuxok, im gonna give feisty another try05:07
jtttux: missed your quiestion about ATM  what is ATM05:07
tuxAt The Moment :p05:07
zombiedogAnd he was filled with success, and there was great rejoicing.05:07
zombiedogThanks for the 'mv' tip.05:07
jtttux: atm ok    get the  daily  build  if you get anything as  4/12/07  is very close to being the RC05:07
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zombiedogIt worked, and I'm back in05:08
tuxjtt: i think apt-get is already updating to feisty05:08
zombiedogI was on the right track, actually, only instead of 'mv' I was using 'rename'05:09
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tuxjtt: it suggest installing the same packages as dist-upgrade05:09
zombiedogAnd couldn't figure out why it was babbling about perl05:09
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jtttux: ok right on!!05:09
tuxjtt: when are they gonna start shipping feisty @ launchpad05:09
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jtttux: the 19th is the final release date that should hold05:10
Jucatotux: you can pre-order now05:10
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tuxi think feisty is installed05:11
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tuxno packages to install at dist-upgrade05:12
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zombiedogOh, taladon. Refresh rate is 50/6005:12
LeeJunFantux: you can 'cat /etc/issue' to see what version you are running.05:12
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zombiedogAny reason you wanted to know, or were you just trying to make me look more stupid than I already am. XD05:12
tuxjtt: 6.10, but i think i must reboot first :p05:13
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Taladanno, was going to tell you where to go to put in the right refresh rate ;)05:13
TaladanRemember...in linux everything is a file05:13
zombiedogSo about the making me look stupid thing, I can probably take care of that, right after I get my foot out of my mouth05:13
zombiedogWhat place would this be, then?05:14
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Taladanit should be in /etc/Xorg.conf05:14
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belionalgun chileno???05:14
zombiedogI thought it was x11--Oh, yeah05:14
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:14
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Taladanif you type 'cat /etc/X11/Xorg.conf' at the command line it should come up so you could see it05:14
Taladanyeah, sorry, left out the X11 ;)05:15
belionalgun espaol o chileno ke me ayude porfas05:15
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zombiedogOh, sweet. Gotta remember 'cat' too05:15
zombiedogStill though, how would I go about editing this from the command line05:16
zombiedogOh wait05:16
Iwonder|tooto bad ubuntu doesn't have that knoppix app for detecting mode lines,its handy05:16
Iwonder|toovi,pico or nano05:16
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zombiedog...Yeah, man. I'm out of my depth with this OS.05:17
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zombiedogI mean, I've been using C:/windows/system32/ all my life05:17
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Iwonder|tooi can relate05:17
tux3 weeks since the last (succesfull) windows boot05:17
olimpicoHow can I install all the packages that I have installed in one computer automatically to another which I installed from scratch?05:18
zombiedogI still have windows installed, as sort of a comfort blanket05:18
LeeJunFanman this global warming is killing me - I wake up to a foot of new snow this morning. argh. hehe05:18
olimpicoIs there a file which I can copy and then upgrade the system and all my configuration will be installed automatically?05:18
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tuxzombiedog: i had planned the same, but now windows doesnt work so i dont bother fixing it05:18
Iwonder|tooi still have windows installed cause wine works well,lol05:18
Taladanzombiedog: a quick survival list of command line commands:05:18
zombiedogFortunately, dual-booting has been kind to me05:18
Taladanls - lists files05:19
zombiedog'dir' works too, I noticed.05:19
Taladancp - copies file from location to location05:19
tuxzombiedog: i like global warming, nice weather outside05:19
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Taladanyes, type 'alias' and hit enter05:19
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ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:20
Taladanalias is another good command...I always 'alias vi=vim'05:20
zombiedogGotta remember this stuff05:21
Taladanless - like cat but lets you scroll up and down through files as well as search with /05:21
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olimpicoHow can I install all the packages that I have installed in one computer automatically to another which I installed from scratch?05:21
olimpicoIs there a file which I can copy and then upgrade the system and all my configuration will be installed automatically?05:21
Taladanthere is a more command as well, but less is more05:21
zombiedog'more' is awesome.05:21
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Taladanyes, but 'less' is moreso ;)05:21
Jucato"less" is more than "more"...05:22
Taladanman - manual pages.  Ferex - man less05:22
zombiedog...Oh. I thought you were quoting an old saying05:22
zombiedog'less' is actually a command05:22
zombiedogI got 'man' I was hunting around in there05:22
Jucatoyes. the "joke" is that "less (command) is more (than the more command)"05:23
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Taladanman -k <something> will search the man pages for the <something> (this is also known as apropos05:23
zombiedogHey, thanks for helping me, by the way.05:23
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Taladaneveryone needs to be able to at least do a little at the command line05:23
zombiedogI was reasonably good at this back in windows. Hopefully I'll catch on fast05:24
Taladanif you need to know what's currently mounted and how much free space on each partition, you can type df -h05:24
Taladan(the -h is human readable)05:24
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Taladanwhich...they really need a man -h for some commands ;)05:24
zombiedog...Heh. -h works wonders05:25
Iwonder|toocool didn;t know about -h05:25
Iwonder|toosaves a lot of math05:25
zombiedog...Hey, so apparently there's a backup command that works better than copying a file and renaming it.05:25
Taladanuh huh05:25
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Taladanzombiedog: if you want to archive something for a backup (and compressed) then use tar.05:25
Taladantar -czf foo.tar.gz foo.txt05:26
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Taladanthat would C(reate) a Z(ipped *gz) F(ile) named foo.tar.gz out of the file foo.txt05:27
intelikeywhy add tar for a single file in the same dir05:27
Iwonder|toogotta love tar's -C <location > property05:27
intelikeygzip file.txt05:27
Taladanintelikey: because you can add more files later to the same archive05:28
Taladanand this is just an example05:28
blekoshi, when i installed dapper drake (and everything i wanted) i had about 10gb free, now i have 9.7, if we go on like that we will need much more space. I am running deborphan and autoclean05:28
Iwonder|tooand windows supports tar if you ever need to store stuff for a complete rebuild05:28
Taladanto extract a tar archive it's tar -xzf <archive>.tar.gz05:28
zombiedogaaannnd tar xvf foo.tar?05:28
zombiedogOh, fair enough05:29
intelikeytar file.tgz05:29
Taladanxvf is extract visual file05:29
Iwonder|tooextreact verbose05:29
jhutchinsblekos: How big is the partition?05:29
Taladanvisual means that it cats the list to stdout (your monitor) as it untars it05:29
Taladanyeah, or verbose05:29
Iwonder|tooyeah what Taladan said05:29
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jhutchinsOne could always man tar and see what they call the options there.05:30
blekosand using 4.4gb only for root05:30
Taladanand god help you if you ever have to man tar :P05:30
zombiedogI just did05:30
zombiedogThat is one mother05:30
blekosthe home partition is 15.5gb and using 2.505:30
jhutchinsblekos: So you went from 4 to 4.3g for your installation.05:30
Iwonder|tooblekos: keep an eye on /var and /tmp linux loves to leave stuff in there05:30
Taladanthey didn't know when to stop coding05:30
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zombiedogNo kidding05:30
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zombiedogAnyway, here we go05:30
jhutchinsI had a Mandrake 9.1 installation that was under 3G.05:30
Taladanbtw - tar means 'Tape ARchive' if you ever wonder05:30
blekosbut remember we dont have the final release yet, and kd4 is about to come05:30
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Taladandon't remember if that's in the man page05:31
jhutchinsIt would also run in 96M of RAM.05:31
blekos(end of 2007?)05:31
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intelikeyblekos my root partition says    /dev/hda              1.2G  859M  345M  72% /05:31
Iwonder|tooi ran low on space and realised kde had all my emails from 2 years in a cache in /tmp05:31
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Taladanblekos - if you need to know where all of your space is, you can du the partition05:31
jhutchinsintelikey: What other partitions do you have?05:31
Taladansomething like du -h /|grep GB05:32
intelikeyjhutchins actually that's not a partition.  i don't use them.05:32
Taladandu is for disk usage05:32
zombiedogOh, sw00t. It works05:32
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Taladanthat command will show any files that are over a gigabyte in size05:32
zombiedogI wish I'd known about vim before mv. I have to set up my tablet again05:32
Iwonder|toohey,is there a way to make ls -s 'human readable'?05:33
jhutchinsintelikey: So you're saying your full install is les than a Gig?05:33
Taladanif you want the whole output I'd redirect it to a file so you don't blow out your buffer05:33
TaladanIwonder|too: ls -sh05:33
intelikeyjhutchins i said partition to keep down confusion, and the redundant questions that follow  "no partition."05:33
intelikeyjhutchins yes05:33
Iwonder|toocool,thx bunches05:33
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zombiedog...Hey, just for future reference, can someone tell me what the Linux equivalent of c:/program files is?05:34
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zombiedogJust so I'm not hunting through a bunch of folders with obscurely abbreviated names? :P05:34
Taladanzombiedog: there is no exact equivalent05:34
patrialtWhen i attempt to open my application:/ in konqueror the browser freezes, can someone help me find a solution?05:34
Iwonder|toozombiedog:  try /bin05:34
Iwonder|tooor /sbin05:35
xtavaresxdo debian sarge debs work with kubuntu?05:35
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intelikeyzombiedog there isn't one.   but the closest aproxamation would be /usr05:35
Iwonder|tooif you are hunting the executables05:35
Taladanif you're looking for executables it'll be either in /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin or if you have a personal ~/bin directory05:35
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mikey2what command do I use to turn on kdewallet?05:35
jhutchins!fhs | zombiedog05:35
Taladanthose are binary executables...for library files its going to be in /lib, /usr/lib, /usr/local/lib05:35
xtavaresxmikey2 go to kcontrol05:35
intelikeyzombiedog executables are mostly added to /usr/bin/  when you install new packages05:36
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ubotuzombiedog: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux05:36
mikey2sorry, newbie here05:36
patrialthow can i stop Konqueror from freezing when i enter applications:/?05:36
xtavaresxmikey k menu -> run command -> type in kcontrol05:36
piotrekhi there everyone05:36
mikey2cool, ty05:36
liamhi everyone05:36
zombiedogThanks everyone for humouring me.05:36
zombiedogI'll leave you be for a while. /:P05:37
jhutchinszombiedog: It's a reasonable question.05:37
Taladanzombiedog: not a problem ;)  Like to help new people learn linux05:37
piotrekcould anyone help me ??05:37
jhutchinszombiedog: You might also fine this useful:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html05:37
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Taladanpiotrek: not until you let us know what your problem is ;)05:37
liampiotrek, whats the problem?05:37
piotrekok ok05:37
zombiedogAlso, I found it. It's usr/lib05:37
zombiedogBlender and gaim and firefox and junk are all in there05:37
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piotreki have a Secondary SLAVE 160GB disk05:38
piotrekcan't mount it05:38
Taladanwhat filesystem is on it05:38
piotrektried everything05:38
jhutchinszombiedog: For any program, you can use "which <program>" to find it's location.  There's also "locate" which will find files, and find, which is more advanced.05:38
piotrekthe problem is05:38
zombiedogOh, wow.05:38
piotrekit can't see this05:38
Taladanand is it a sata or an ide drive?05:38
xtavaresxcan some one tell me if i am likely to have a problem if i add deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main to my sources list?05:38
intelikey!ntfs | piotrek05:39
ubotupiotrek: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:39
jhutchinszombiedog: If you're not sure of the program's name, you can type the beginning two letters and hit tab (maybe twice) for auto-completion.05:39
Jucatojhutchins: there's also "type" which I find to be a bit more useful than "which" :)05:39
Taladanmount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mount/<some directory you made>05:39
intelikeybeen there piotrek ^ ?05:39
zombiedog...You know what? The impression is beginning to steal over me that Linux is easier to use than windows05:39
jhutchinsJucato: type is an alias for find.05:39
piotrekthe weird thing is05:39
piotrekit sees two partitions when there's only one?/05:39
jhutchinsJucato: I mean an alias for "which".05:39
zombiedogI mean, a lot of things that bug me about windows in general I find have been solved.05:39
Jucatojhutchins: type is a built-in. which is in /usr/bin/which05:40
intelikeytty2 [greg@~]  type type05:40
intelikeytype is a shell builtin05:40
jhutchinszombiedog: Yeah, ain't that great?05:40
Taladanzombiedog: I wouldn't say 'easier' or 'harder'...but you do have a lot more fine-grained control in linux especially at the commandline05:40
Jucatothanks intelikey :)05:40
zombiedogNo, I might almost say easier.05:40
Taladanwait until you get into bash scripting05:40
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zombiedogLike even print screen in kubuntu05:40
liambash scripting is fun! i do it at uni05:40
zombiedogIt's like miniature SnagIt05:40
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Taladanyou think Batch files are awesome?  with enough patience and the right bash script you can shift the Earth in its orbit.05:41
piotrekI'll be back:)05:41
xtavaresxhello can anyone enlighten me on the compatibilty between debain and ubuntu sources,05:41
patrialtk, lets try this again, when i go Konqueror->Applications, konqueror freezes, can anybody help me get the prob fixed?05:41
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intelikeyheh Jucato actually i have a script by the same name... tty2 [greg@~]  which type05:41
Taladanpatrialt: cat ~/.xsession-errors05:41
jhutchinspatrialt: What are you trying to accomplish by going to applications?05:42
Taladanif it's a problem with X it'll be in that file05:42
Iwonder|toozombiedog: the best thing about linux is the gui is not part of the os, so you can 99% fix it with reinstall and you don't have to reboot it to make things work05:42
patrialtehh, nvm, anytime i attempt to access any local directories, konqueror freezes05:42
geggamonly way to find out xtavaresx  is to try .... if it works its compatible05:42
zombiedogYeah, I noticed that05:42
geggamdont do it on a production machine05:43
zombiedogIt's sort of like an abstraction layer between the two05:43
piotreki was trying this already:)05:43
zombiedogLike, windows had that before, they had DOS. But now DOS is just a crap command line interface built into windows05:43
Taladanwell, not only that Iwonder|too...you have complete control over what GUI you want to run....if any.05:43
zombiedogI like guis. :P05:44
Iwonder|toooh and the magical word "choice"05:44
zombiedogYeah. Well, choice is fine until it hits overload.05:44
blekosi plug in a usb HD and I know ubuntu recognize's it, when i go to system->disk & filesystem setting it is disabled05:44
Taladanwanna run Beryl?  You can.  Wanna run fluxbox?  You can.  iceWM?  You can do that too...05:44
Taladanthe list goes on05:44
zombiedogYes, I'm aware.05:44
blekosi try to mounted (as root) but no luck any idea?05:44
Taladanzombiedog: you have a choice, you don't have to use that choice05:44
jhutchinsWell, maybe not beryl.05:44
Taladanbut for example05:44
Taladanmy laptop is a piece of crap05:44
patrialtwell., my error log thing is packed with errors lol05:44
Taladanwindows 98 would barely run on it05:44
intelikeyIwonder|too ?    magical word "choice"     C:\dos\choice.com   <<< that word ?05:45
patrialtbut one that stands out is, Gdk-CRITICAL **05:45
jhutchinspatrialt: Don't worry, most of them are for the wacom tablet drivers.05:45
Taladanbut I can run ubuntu dapper on it with fluxbox window manager as the gui and it's fine05:45
Taladana little slow, but that's okay05:45
zombiedogHoi, you're preaching to the choir, you know.  I'm already using this..05:45
Iwonder|toono choice,as in my linux,my way05:45
patrialtgdk_gc_get_colormap: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed05:45
patrialtX Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 805:45
patrialt  Major opcode:  15605:45
zombiedogNo point in trying to sell me on it05:45
patrialt  Minor opcode:  605:45
patrialt  Resource id:  0x13605:45
Taladanthe thing is - if you ever get to the point where you feel like all the choice is overload05:45
jhutchins!paste | patrialt05:46
ubotupatrialt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:46
blekosdo i need to smg at fstab?05:46
Taladanjust remember...you don't have to choose if you don't want to...but it's there when you're ready to ;)05:46
patrialti didn't think that was a very big paste05:46
piotrekHELP EVERYONE:)05:46
piotrekid doesn't work either05:46
zombiedogNaw, when I was talking about too much choice, I was more referring to the multi-cd fedora install I tried some years ago05:46
piotreki got always answer wrong fs type05:46
zombiedogNow THAT was too much choice by the bucket-load05:46
jhutchinspiotrek: What didn't?  Lot more helpful to tell us what DID happen.05:47
piotrekbad option05:47
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Taladanwell, fedora is good for the people that want that much control over everything that's installed05:47
piotreki dl diskmounter05:47
piotrekand it tried to mount my second hard disk05:47
piotrekbut as always the same problem05:47
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piotrekbad fs option05:47
Taladanbut ubuntu isn't that much different.  hell, open up aptitude and just scan through all the packages in the standard repos05:47
zombiedogIt was a ASCII interface, with 'Do you want to install klib-dev-moog-omg-wtf-lol-TTUKE-12.14.23-123123??'05:47
zombiedogRepeat till infinity05:47
piotrekwrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock,05:48
piotrekmissing codepage05:48
jhutchins!enter | piotrek05:48
ubotupiotrek: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:48
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs05:48
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piotrek!enter piotrek05:48
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zombiedogYes, but I can AVOID the choice in ubuntu05:48
zombiedogThe actually install itself was the 6-step thing05:48
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Taladanzombiedog: nullifying choice since 1976 :P05:48
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jhutchinspiotrek: What filesystem is on the disk?05:49
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jhutchinspiotrek: Are you using ntfs-3g or the standard kernel drivers?05:49
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piotrekit shows two partitions05:49
zombiedogHeh, I like choice in small amounts. I'm working on acquiring good programs.05:49
piotrekstandard kernel drivers05:49
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waylandbillzombiedog: sounds like installing slack. I can't imagine choosing a thousand optional packages one by one. Too much like rolling own system from source. :-D05:49
jhutchinspiotrek: Ok, that will give you read-only access.  What does fdisk-l say about the disk?05:49
piotrekin windows i got no problems with the partition05:49
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Taladanyou guys think that's bad...05:50
zombiedogWaylandbill: Exactly. It was lick some psychotic choice machine05:50
intelikeypiotrek extended partition05:50
Taladantry compiling your kernel directly at the command line.05:50
piotrekyes extended05:50
zombiedogLike chinese water torture05:50
Taladanno ncurses or x compilation...05:50
piotrekit says its fat32 win 95 :D05:50
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:50
intelikeyTaladan been there.05:50
Taladanyou'll be sick of choice about a quarter of the way through that little experience05:50
jhutchinspiotrek: That would suggest that it's not ntfs.05:50
piotrekbut it is!!05:50
jhutchinswhat is the device name?05:50
piotrekand weird thing05:51
piotrekeverything is label in windows05:51
zombiedogYeah, I'm not that deep-down into Linux yet. At the core I'm an artists, and though the techie side of me doesn't mind tinkering, most of me just wants it to function fairly well.05:51
piotrekit shows two partitions05:51
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piotrekfirst partitions's system is OnTrackDM6 :)??05:51
patrialtguess i'll reinstall kubuntu and not mess with gtk apps anymore lol05:51
Taladanintelikey: yeah...I did my first kernel compile under the direct tutelage of a blind man who uses linux...man I was tired of it after about the 70th or 80th question05:51
intelikeypiotrek extended partition.   did you mount the number 5 partition  (assuming 5)05:51
Iwonder|toopiotrek: fat drives usually show as 2 one being extended05:51
jhutchinspiotrek: Right.  THat's part of your problem, but I think you can get around it.05:51
jhutchinspiotrek: Please stop hitting enter until you have completed a thought.05:52
piotrekbut it is ntfs...05:52
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jhutchinspiotrek: Please tell me what device it is.05:52
jhutchinspiotrek: /dev/what?05:52
intelikey<Iwonder|too> piotrek: fat drives...<<< extended partitions05:52
piotrekits /dev /hdb205:52
jhutchinspiotrek: mount -t vfat /dev/hdb2 /mount05:53
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piotrekits /dev /hdb1 (first partition, in Win there's only one NTFS partition)05:53
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piotrekif i'll mount it as fat and it's ntfs what will happen??05:53
jhutchinspiotrek: In Windows, it sees the OnTrack DiskManager 6 partition, loads drivers from that, and only shows the second partition.05:53
waylandbillpiotrek: it won't mount.05:53
intelikeypiotrek it wont mount05:53
Iwonder|tooit won't mount05:53
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jhutchinspiotrek: You should get an error and it won't mount.05:53
piotrekwhy not?05:53
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jhutchinspiotrek: Because it's not vfat.05:54
Iwonder|toopiotrek: are you experienced in command line?05:54
piotrekoh crap:/05:54
piotreknot really05:54
jhutchinspiotrek: However, since you were not able to mount it before, we want to confirm that by provoking the error.05:54
Iwonder|took i won't suggest that then05:54
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piotrekok then05:54
waylandbillpiotrek: usually mount with try to auto guess. If you specify a wrong one though, it will give an error and do nothing.05:54
jhutchinspiotrek: mount -t vfat /dev/hdb2 /mount05:54
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tux75hi there. i need one help in the kubuntu installation. i would install grub on the root partition (hda8). what i need to do? just click on hd0 and rename in hda8 or i need to write the extensive form (/dev/hda8) or similar?05:54
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tux75pls help me.05:54
jhutchinspiotrek: You should get an error.05:54
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jhutchinstux75: You need to install it to the root partition of your boot drive, drive 0, or it won't do anything.05:55
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jhutchinspiotrek: Hello?05:55
piotrekthe same05:55
Iwonder|tooother than the possibilty of making a fatal error fdisk /dev/hdb will give relevant info05:55
piotrekeven when trying vfat05:55
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intelikeytux75 (hd0,0)05:56
piotrekwrong fs type05:56
jhutchinspiotrek: Stop using the enter key as punctuation.05:56
piotrekbad option05:56
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jhutchinspiotrek: Good, that's what we wanted.05:56
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tux75jhutchins: i usually place the boot loader on the root partition, not on the mbr of the hd..05:56
jhutchinspiotrek: Now mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb2 /mnt05:56
Iwonder|toopiotrek: is there an OS on that partition?05:56
Iwonder|toowill it boot?05:56
tux75intelikey: (hd0,0) is the root or the mbr?05:57
jhutchinstux75: If it's not on the boot disk, the bios won't see it.05:57
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waylandbilltux75: that's right if you have something in the mbr to load it.05:57
piotrekthe same...05:57
intelikeytux75 (hd0,0) is /dev/hda1      grub is screwy that way05:57
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tux75yes, i've a graphical bootloader05:57
piotreki don't know what to do anymore ;(05:57
zombiedogWell, I'm off for a bit05:58
piotrekIwonder|too there is no OS05:58
patrialtif i want to install java with kubuntu, using the Adept package manager, how do i accept the agreement so that java finishes installing ?05:58
Taladanpatrialt: tab key05:58
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Taladanthen space bar05:58
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patrialtahh kk05:58
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tux75intelikey: so, i must to write "(hd0,7)" for /dev/hda8?05:59
waylandbilltux75: yes05:59
Flegmacan you help me pls?? i dont hear any sound...my KMix show Mixer cannot be found message...... :(05:59
patrialtjust asking, cuz i have to do it all over again if i cant figure out how to fix my konqueror issue lol05:59
piotrekmaybe i'm a beginner in Ubuntu world but was searching really everywhere05:59
intelikeytux75 let me rephrase.  grub is more screwy than that.  (hd0,0) it the first partition that bios finds.  reguardles what disk.      and yes to your Q.05:59
szefupiotrek : use ntfsmount insteed or mount :D06:00
waylandbillFlegma: did the kernel module for the sound device load? did it make /dev/dsp.06:00
tux75thanks to all then. :)06:00
jhutchinspiotrek: mount -t ontrackdm606:00
TaladanFlegma - at the command line type: lsmod | grep snd06:00
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exsis msn network down?06:00
FlegmaTaladan:  nothing...06:00
piotrekunknown file system...06:01
FlegmaTaladan:  yesterday, it was ok..but now... no :(06:01
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intelikeyexs one can only hope06:01
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TaladanYeah, your sound kernel modules aren't loading06:01
piotrekoh by the way06:01
FlegmaTaladan:  how can i fix it pls??06:01
TaladanDo you know what soundcard you have?06:01
FlegmaTaladan:  intel hda06:02
piotrekhas any1 of you experienced a problem with Kmix ??06:02
jhutchinspiotrek: mount -t ontrackdm606:02
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piotrekit'll say unknow filesystem06:02
jhutchinsMight need the caps.06:02
Taladanhm...you could modprobe them, but I would just try restarting my sound server, see if that calls them06:02
Flegmapiotrek:  me06:02
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jhutchinspiotrek: You probably want to actually mount the ontrack partition.06:02
underdog5004how can I get my dns settings to stick. I've edited /etc/resolv.conf, but it just gets overwritten...06:02
Taladansomething like sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart06:02
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Taladanassuming you're using alsa as your sound server06:03
piotrekjust want it to see06:03
piotrekdon't even want to write to it because i have everything in it06:03
FlegmaTaladan:  setting up alsa / ok06:03
piotrekhave to tripleboot to use my /dev/hdb2 :)06:03
FlegmaTaladan:  i tried to recopmile drivers...but..nothing.06:03
Taladanunderdog5004: don't use resolv.conf, use /etc/hosts if you're wanting to alias your local machines06:03
TaladanFlegma - do a lsmod |grep snd06:04
FlegmaTaladan:  it shows nothing06:04
jhutchinsGrr.  Almost all of the googlehits i get for ontrack are copies of the partition table type list from fdisk.06:04
waylandbillunderdog5004: to make dns servers static, you have to make your connection static otherwise your dhcp server will assign them06:04
piotrekyou know06:04
piotrekwhen i couldn't mount it06:05
piotreki thought it's maybe mbr on the disk06:05
intelikeyi thought lshw accepted single char options ?06:05
piotrekso i "fixed" this06:05
piotrekbut it didn't help06:05
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TaladanFlegma - I'm really not sure why it's not loading the kernel modules.  Someone else may be better suited to helping you as I don't deal that much with kernel stuff06:06
piotrekok guys, thank You for help... ;(06:06
piotreki will still have to use Shitows...06:06
geggammodprobe snd_hda_intel06:06
piotrekalthough i didn't have so many problems with it :)06:06
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jhutchinspiotrek: Think I got it:06:06
Taladanthat may do it06:06
geggamno pointing !06:06
intelikeypiotrek lsmod | grep ntfs06:06
piotrekwhat pointing??06:06
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FlegmaTaladan:  i ...thx... i found some solution.with audio group and my user, but its ok.. :(06:07
intelikeypiotrek any driver loaded ?06:07
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fdovingwaylandbill, underdog5004 you can however edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to superseed or prepend your preferred nameserver.06:07
jhutchinspiotrek: reboot and add the kernel option hdb=remap6306:07
TaladanFlegma - try what geggam said06:07
piotrek104436     306:07
kamuiok, now I could use some help with some damn wireless configuration06:07
jhutchinspiotrek: You should be able to see the drive then.06:07
piotrekthe answer from it06:07
Flegmawaylandbill:  how can i determine if kernel module for sound device load??06:07
kamuiI want to have my net autoconfigged to work at work and home06:07
piotrekntfs       104436    306:07
kamuiI spent like 30 minutes last night getting wpa supplicant to work for home06:07
waylandbillFlegma: lsmod will list it06:07
kamuinow how can I add a wep protected essid to my config to autoconnect?06:07
Taladanwaylandbill: it's not06:08
jhutchinspiotrek: See http://www.radio-active.net.au/blog/archive/2007_01_01_archive.html06:08
kamuiis it even possible?06:08
TaladanI had Flegma lsmod|grep snd06:08
FlegmaTaladan:  coud not open ...06:08
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jhutchinspiotrek: Last entry on the page, which points to http://ramses.smeyers.be/varia/OnTrackDM6/06:08
TaladanFlegma - could not open what?06:08
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FlegmaWARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-page-alloc.ko': No such file or directory06:08
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Flegmaand  more files06:08
waylandbillbut the question was how to determine. That's how.06:08
piotrekso what should i use??06:09
szefupiotrek : use ntfsmount insteed of mount for ntfs partitions , doh06:09
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Taladannuked your modules somehow06:09
jhutchinsszefu: It's a ontrackdm6 partition, ntfs won't work.06:09
FlegmaTaladan: 6 files from kernel sound core :(06:09
waylandbillFlegma: looks like you should reinstall or rebuild the kernel modules.06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
jhutchinspiotrek: reboot and add the kernel option hdb=remap6306:09
Flegmawaylandbill:  I am a beginner...how??06:10
blekossmg is wrong with my ubuntu and cannot see usb storages devices, can u help?06:10
geggamwell that blows06:10
piotrekhow to add this option?/06:10
geggamu cant version people and see if they are running the kernel they are trying to use modules06:10
geggam/exec -o uname -a work ?06:11
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geggamLinux lappy2 2.6.20-14-386 #2 Mon Apr 2 20:34:35 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux06:11
geggam^^ Like that06:11
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geggamwhat kernel u running ?06:11
piotreki'm on it but it really tells me nothing:)06:11
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Flegmageggam: 2.6.17-11-generic06:12
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waylandbillFlegma: apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-generic06:12
piotrekshould I write it as it is exactly in it??06:13
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Flegmawaylandbill: ok..I'll restart06:13
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geggamwas looking gfor that package waylandbill06:14
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geggamfor a = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7  8 9 ; do kill -HUP 1 ; done06:15
intelikey=  ?06:16
geggambah !06:16
waylandbillintelikey: driver CDs. reboot. reboot. reboot. Then install the software. rinse. repeat.06:16
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intelikeywaylandbill oh yeah i remember now.06:16
geggamthat is what happens when u are tinkering in perl and attempting to do shell script humor intelikey06:16
Flegmawaylandbill: nothing..still the same :(06:17
intelikeygeggam :)06:17
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Cosmo_I have a program that is made to run in mandrake, red hat, fedora, gentoo and suse am I sol on being able to run it?06:18
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geggamFlegma, did u install that module package with apt ?06:18
waylandbillCosmo_: you may be able to.06:18
Flegmageggam:  yes...06:18
geggammodprobe snd_hda_intel06:19
geggamtry that06:19
geggamor jsut snd06:19
intelikeyCosmo_ why ?  will it not preform in *buntu's env ?06:19
Flegmageggam:  ok.i ran it with sudo....now?? restart pc?06:19
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waylandbillFlegma: no06:19
geggammodprobe snd_hda_intel06:20
Cosmo_I am not sure, it comes up with errors when I try to install it06:20
Flegmageggam:  done06:20
geggamany errors ?06:20
geggamor do u have sound ?06:20
Flegmageggam:  no...06:20
Cosmo_it is a citrix vpn client for my job06:20
waylandbillCosmo_: how are you trying to install it?06:20
geggamrun kmix06:20
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intelikey!find citrix06:20
ubotuPackage/file citrix does not exist in edgy06:20
Flegmageggam:  mixer cannot be found _(06:20
geggam/exec -o dmesg | tail06:21
Cosmo_I have been trying to run it in the command line06:21
intelikeyCosmo_ looks like you'll have to get the source and compile it.06:21
intelikey!b-e | Cosmo_06:21
ubotuCosmo_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:21
Flegmageggam: /exec -o dmesg | tail in console??06:21
geggam!find thing client06:21
ubotuFound: gtk-engines-thingeramik, gtk-engines-thingeramik-data, gtk2-engines-thingeramik06:21
geggam!find thin client06:21
ubotuFound: gtk2-engines, education-thin-client-server, gaim-thinklight, gnome-think, gtk-engines-thingeramik (and 7 others)06:21
waylandbillCosmo_: what are you trying to run from the command line? is it just a single executable?06:22
geggamdmesg | tail06:22
Flegmageggam:  only ntfs and bluetooth messages06:22
geggammodprobe snd06:22
intelikeyCosmo_ it's pretty safe to assume that if it's for gentoo than just about any *nix can compile and use it.06:22
geggamjust do the generic one06:22
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Flegmageggam:  sudo modprobe snd do nothingf06:23
Cosmo_the file is citrixvpn-linux-2.4-i386.sh06:23
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intelikeyCosmo_ hmmm   sh citrixvpn-linux-2.4-i386.sh06:23
geggamjust as an fyi in the old days when everyone ran xchat we could diagnose machines by having people run commands with /exec -o to output the result to chat06:23
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treqanyone been able to install vmware 1.02 on 7.04?06:23
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geggamFlegma, try a reboot to see if that does put everything in sync06:24
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Flegmageggam:  ok..wait a minute :)06:24
geggamdepmod -a06:24
dawsonhi guys, Whats the best method of running windows applications on a linux box, is there a wine alternative?06:24
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intelikeyCosmo_ ummm wait.    if that "linux-2.4-i386"  specification is kernel arch  then you'll need to install a 2.4 kernel to use it.06:25
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Cosmo_how do I do that?06:25
kidstinyerp wants an older version of postgresql, how can I select the proper version?06:25
intelikeyCosmo_ package manager06:25
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Flegmageggam:  still the same...06:26
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geggamFlegma, paste dmesg to pastebin06:26
intelikeyCosmo_ or  sudo apt-get install kernel-image-2.4*38606:26
geggamthen post link06:26
intelikeythat may give more than one match ^06:27
Flegmageggam: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15241/06:28
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waylandbillCosmo_: there isn't a 2.6 version available?06:29
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intelikeywaylandbill yeah or an alternative vpn client even...06:30
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Cosmo_waylandbill: not that I can find06:30
YorokobiCosmo_, waylandbill, are you two talking about the Cisco VPN client?06:31
Cosmo_Yorokobi: yeah06:31
geggamFlegma,  what sound card / chipset do u have ?06:31
YorokobiThere's a 2.6 kernel patch out there that works06:31
geggam!google ?06:31
Cosmo_Yorokobi: trying to get it installed for my job so I don't have to use windows06:31
Flegmageggam:  intel hda 66006:31
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intelikeyYorokobi he's playing with  citrixvpn-linux-2.4-i386.sh06:32
YorokobiCosmo_, I used the Cisco client for work and school on egdy for quite some time.06:32
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Yorokobioh, the citrix one ...06:32
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YorokobiNevermind then06:32
waylandbilli've only ever used openvpn myself06:32
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geggamFlegma, does "sudo lspci" show any sound ?06:33
Cosmo_the problem is the tech guys at my job know very little about linux so I'm kind of on my own trying to get this to work06:33
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waylandbillCosmo_: sneak openvpn for windows on one of the windows machines so you can use openvpn on yours ;-P06:34
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ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX06:35
Flegmageggam: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)06:35
YorokobiOr convince them to allow an SSH server and use SSH tunnels06:35
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geggambuddy of mine has that chipset and hates it with linux06:35
waylandbillYorokobi: that would be a very good solution06:35
Cosmo_but on the bright side if I can get this to work I should only need to boot up into windows for the ocasional rare piece of software06:35
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Flegmageggam: but yesterday it was ok....soundcard has worked fine..06:36
waylandbillI couldn't imagine life without ssh servers.06:36
Cosmo_the only problem is that the office is in denver, CO and I am in bfe, OK06:36
Flegmageggam: i have raltek chipset...06:36
geggamwhat did u do different ?06:36
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waylandbillFlegma: did you do an update to that new kernel recently? did you try going back a kernel using the old ones still in grub?06:36
Flegmawaylandbill: i think there was some kernel updates...yes....i will try older one..06:37
waylandbillCosmo_: you still should be able to convince someone there to install an ssh server.06:37
geggamolder or newer Flegma06:37
geggamsimplest way06:37
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Flegmageggam: i dont have any newer... :(06:38
waylandbillolder would be the way to go anyway since it worked.06:38
intelikeythat's why i never update anything06:38
Flegmawaylandbill: is there any chance to detect which packages was updated latest??06:38
geggami forget i am on feisty06:39
geggamsomehow using the terminology feisty feels a bit queer06:39
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waylandbillFlegma: dkpg has a log, you should be able to look by the date they were installed.06:39
waylandbillgeggam: a fiesty girlfriend isn't necessarily a bad thing. :-D06:40
geggamare too06:40
geggamwomen like that are nothing but trouble06:40
Yorokobidepends on who she is feisty with06:40
geggamtrust me... she will get feisty with someone else because she is feisty06:41
intelikeyguys be nice.06:41
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waylandbillFlegma: /var/log/dpkg.log is where you would look06:41
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waylandbillfiesty and dressed in anything red. mmm.. what a fantasy that would be. :-)06:42
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Flegmawaylandbill: yes...i have it.... it has to be in linux header or linux image or linux libc06:43
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waylandbillFlegma: image06:43
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Flegmawaylandbill: ok...and can I downgrade it??06:44
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waylandbillFlegma: grub should have an entry still, just boot into the older one and see if that's the deal.06:44
Flegmawaylandbill: ok...wait :)06:44
waylandbillFlegma: you can lock it to a version with Synaptic or aptitude I know. I'm not sure about Adept.06:45
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intelikeyjust removing the offending image is enough.  it will take  linux-image with it and thus stop updating the kernel every time there is a change.06:46
Flegmawaylandbill: its ok now...older kernel image..06:46
intelikeyFlegma please file a bug on that.06:47
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots06:47
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Flegmaintelikey:  ok06:47
ohmbrwhen i use apt-get it's returning to me this error... "Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory" what could be??06:47
Flegmabut..is there solution where i couldnt boot into older kernel image?? or should i wait for new update?06:48
Yorokobiohmbr, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=21862206:48
intelikeyohmbr locales set to something not avalable ?   anyway  try  LC_ALL=C commands and args06:48
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ohmbrYorokobi: i'll see for it..06:49
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ninHerhi all06:50
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MenaIs there utorrent ?06:55
Flegmaintelikey: done :)06:55
intelikey!find torrent06:55
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intelikeyMena apt-cache search torrent06:56
Flegma!find ftp06:56
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slestakanyone understand ubuntu fonts and could help troubleshoot a terminal app with line drawing chars?07:02
KjetilKI just got a Compal GL30 laptop in the door. The last time I installed one of those, I had some problems with the wireless card (which is the latest Intel), and a few problems with other hardware.07:03
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slestaki am trying to get some users access to an old app on aix that requires wyse60 term and have it 90% functional.  I need to find a font for konsole that includes the line drawing chars.07:03
KjetilKI see that has been improved in the latest beta, and I can live with some problems, would it then be reasonable to go for the latest rather than Edgy?07:04
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jack__hi, kmail says it cannot connect to mail.gmx.net, pop3 works fine.guarddog blocks the smtp server, without firewall working fine, but whatever i do it wont allow to send mails07:08
jack__can anyone help thanks?07:08
_Iwonder_jack__: how about server requires authenication?07:10
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jack___Iwonder have tried both, thats not the the problem, i think its the connection via port 465, which is not allowed by default by guarddog07:12
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livingtmIs there any way I can get font smoothing to work for Gnome apps while in KDE? I cant believe the difference in the look of those apps from gnome to KDE07:15
fdovingjack__: allow it in guarddog then :)07:15
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amadeus_anyone masters sed here?07:16
fdovingamadeus_: what's the challenge?07:16
jack__fdoving: yep, but it wont work, i enabled that for the dmz and internet, no07:16
jack__ luck07:16
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ubuntuwta is the newest version of kubuntu ?07:16
amadeus_fdoving: to replace spaces by "','"07:17
amadeus_the \' is a problem07:17