[09:37] <kwwii> hi andreasn
[08:15] <frandavid100> hiya!
[08:19] <troy_s> hiya! frandavid100
[08:19] <frandavid100> hey troy
[08:21] <frandavid100> is there a tango-icon-theme maintainer around?
[08:24] <troy_s> absolutely
[08:24] <troy_s> we have several of the tango celebrities come in here often...
[08:24] <troy_s> let's see if i can summon one for you...
[08:24] <troy_s> andreasn
[08:26] <frandavid100> oh andreasn is in charge of tango, that's right
[08:27] <frandavid100> I wanted to point you to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tango-icon-theme/+bug/103630
[08:27] <ubotu> Malone bug 103630 in tango-icon-theme "Include attached new GTK actions icons in Tango for Feisty (was: 20x20 new icons not in index.theme)" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[08:27] <frandavid100> cause it's only one week for feisty and it would be a real shame to release it without having it fixed by then... :(
[08:28] <troy_s> frandavid100: andreasn, lapo, and others frequent here... you might want to idle and see if you can catch them.
[08:29] <frandavid100> sure!
[08:29] <troy_s> frandavid100: Ultimately, that would also need to be coordinated with kwwii -- as he is the only one who frequents here with write access to the Ubuntu bzr repos.
[08:29] <troy_s> frandavid100: In fact, kwwii might have something already in the works.  It is hard to say.
[08:29] <kwwii> hi
[08:29] <kwwii> here I be
[08:29] <kwwii> ;-)
[08:30] <frandavid100> hi kwii
[08:30] <kwwii> all this beeping from my chat client interupted my film :p
[08:30] <frandavid100> have you seen what we were talking about?
[08:30] <kwwii> yeah, just read back, let me check them out
[08:31] <frandavid100> sure man
[08:32] <kwwii> frandavid100: I think that this problem exists because it was decided to put the icons in tangerine until they go into gnome/gtk itself
[08:32] <andreasn> hi frandavid100!
[08:32] <frandavid100> hey andreasn
[08:32] <frandavid100> how you doing?
[08:32] <andreasn> frandavid100: I'm afraid I'm on the run, but I'll look at it when I get back home again
[08:32] <kwwii> frandavid100: basically, you want us to put the icons we put in tangerine (those from the tango sprint) also in the tango theme, right?
[08:33] <frandavid100> yup
[08:33] <frandavid100> it's weird because tango has the 16x16 icons but not 20x20
[08:33] <frandavid100> and tangerine has the 20x20 but not 16
[08:34] <andreasn> see you later!
[08:35] <frandavid100> bye man
[08:35] <kwwii> frandavid100: I have spent the last couple of weeks banging my head against the icon themes included and I have to say that I have found no pattern reason yet
[08:36] <kwwii> frandavid100: I'll find out exactly why things are as they are and what we can do about it
[08:36] <frandavid100> could you elaborate? what's the problem exactly?
[08:36] <kwwii> well, my guess would be that they do not want to include the same icons twice
[08:36] <kwwii> and putting them in both tango and tangerine makes little sense
[08:37] <frandavid100> so... couldn't you just include them in either and then have the other inherit them?
[08:37] <kwwii> ideally, they will go in gnome eventually, I guess
[08:37] <troy_s> frandavid100: As Free Software tends to be an evolutionary thing, the size differences are likely related to some historical development.  As kwwii says, no exact 'pattern' :)
[08:37] <kwwii> frandavid100: I could easily include them in tangerine, would that be good enough for you?
[08:38] <kwwii> I am not exactly sure why they were put in tangerine though
[08:38] <kwwii> but as long as we keep them in one place (trying to start some kind of order) I have no problem with that, and at the moment they happen to be in tangerine
[08:39] <frandavid100> Is there a chance to put them in tangerine (both sizes) then make tango inherit icons from tangerine?
[08:39] <frandavid100> so they're not in the tango folder, but they still show if you use tango
[08:39] <kwwii> frandavid100: yeah, I guess that might work
[08:39] <kwwii> frandavid100: in fact, that sounds like the best way to do it atm
[08:39] <kwwii> I have to ask for every change now, so once I get a response I'll do it
[08:40] <frandavid100> gimme a minute then, I'd like to check something
[08:44] <frandavid100> see you now kwwii
[09:01] <frandavid100> Hi again!
[09:02] <frandavid100> sorry, gaim crashed
[09:03] <frandavid100> not sure if you're back from the show kwwii
[09:07] <frandavid100> I'll be back in a while, see ya!
[09:11] <kwwii> re