| Hieronymus | Maybe I should just contact Canonical | 12:09 |
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| adamant1988 | Hrmmm hold on. | 12:10 |
| adamant1988 | Link me to the site. | 12:10 |
| Hieronymus | http://www.ziosys.com | 12:11 |
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| Hieronymus | It's a long story, it's run by a 19 year old kid who's actively scamming people | 12:11 |
| adamant1988 | Hieronymus: I've read about that. | 12:11 |
| Hieronymus | I'm one of the 'internet sleuths' that's been investigating him on the gideontech.com forums | 12:12 |
| adamant1988 | Uh huh | 12:12 |
| Hieronymus | All this Ubuntu stuff he's posted went up today, or at least the bulk of it, the content is directly copied and the images hotlinked | 12:13 |
| adamant1988 | Well, I think the best course of action would be to post a well thought out article on the UbuntuForums warning people not to buy. | 12:13 |
| adamant1988 | include links to the gideontech thread. Also, you may want to alert Canonical, but I kind of doubt they'll do much. | 12:14 |
| Hieronymus | I'd considered that but one has to be careful, he's shown a proficiency at threatening legal action | 12:14 |
| adamant1988 | Hieronymus: the operative word there being "threatening" | 12:16 |
| adamant1988 | a threat is just that, a threat. | 12:16 |
| Hieronymus | Yes, I don't take it seriously, he's defrauding customers, it's not like he has much ground to stand on | 12:16 |
| adamant1988 | I get the feeling that a cash-strapped, mentally unstable 19 year old isn't going to make good on that threat. | 12:17 |
| tsmithe | scamming? defrauding? how? | 12:17 |
| tsmithe | site doesn't look tooo bad | 12:17 |
| Hieronymus | He's 'sold' at least a couple systems and then failed to deliver | 12:17 |
| tsmithe | oh | 12:17 |
| tsmithe | how can he threaten legal action then?! | 12:18 |
| Hieronymus | We're also investigating several other potential frauds, one or more in excess of ten grand | 12:18 |
| tsmithe | stupid ruddy capitalism again | 12:18 |
| adamant1988 | tsmithe: That's part of the issue, his site is well designed... I kind of wish he were a legit vendor. | 12:18 |
| Hieronymus | He's a piece of work, the thread on gideontech.com is soon to be internet history | 12:18 |
| adamant1988 | Hieronymus: "My marketing efforts will dominate your face". | 12:18 |
| Hieronymus | Dig a little deeper and you'll start finding the problems, he's put a good face on it but there's a good bit of problem beneath | 12:19 |
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| Hieronymus | Yes, "My marketing efforts will dominate your face" is soon to be the new "all your base..." | 12:19 |
| adamant1988 | Hieronymus: I think it's worth the time to post a well laid out warning post on the Ubuntu forums | 12:19 |
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| Hieronymus | Agreed, I've not registered for the forums yet but will do and get something posted | 12:20 |
| adamant1988 | Although most Ubuntu users are also Digg users and will have already seen this, it's best not to assume anything when dealing with fraud. | 12:20 |
| Hieronymus | I got into it from the Digg originally, it's become more addictive than Lost at this point | 12:20 |
| beuno | Hieronymus: why not try contacting canonical about it? | 12:25 |
| Hieronymus | Beuno, that's what I'm hoping to do, still looking for a way to do so | 12:26 |
| beuno | Hieronymus: webmaster@canonical.com | 12:26 |
| Hieronymus | Yes, that looks like the only point of contact right now | 12:27 |
| beuno | Hieronymus: give it a try, if you don't get any response ping me again and we'll get it through somehow | 12:28 |
| Hieronymus | Okay, will do, it's obviously late evening in the UK so probably no answer until tomorrow at the earliest | 12:29 |
| Madpilot | Wow, there's something badly wrong with that ziosys website - everytime I hover over the dropdown menus, the whole site reformats itself... wtf? | 12:29 |
| beuno | Hieronymus: don't be surprised if it takes a few days | 12:30 |
| Hieronymus | Told you, it's a trainwreck | 12:30 |
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| Hieronymus | Notice as well that he's not got his SSL configured correctly, he's taking orders over the phone instead | 12:30 |
| beuno | Madpilot: must be your resolution, I can hover fine | 12:31 |
| Madpilot | beuno, might also be some screwy piece of code that Opera doesn't like | 12:31 |
| beuno | aaah, opera | 12:31 |
| beuno | yes | 12:31 |
| beuno | could be | 12:31 |
| Hieronymus | Ah, that's right, it's not set for Opera | 12:31 |
| Hieronymus | It's a commercially available Joomla template that he's boosted without crediting the author | 12:32 |
| Hieronymus | Much like most of what he's put on the site | 12:32 |
| Madpilot | Hieronymus, this keeps getting better and better... :| | 12:32 |
| Hieronymus | Oh, you want entertainment, head over to gideontech.com and read all about it in the thread | 12:32 |
| Hieronymus | You'll need at least four to six hours to read it all, we up to page 360 right now | 12:33 |
| Madpilot | damn | 12:33 |
| Hieronymus | The kid is batsh*t insane | 12:33 |
| Hieronymus | The shame of it is that he's still at it, and likely defrauding more and more people as he goes along | 12:34 |
| Madpilot | link us directly to the forum thread? gid is a big site, w/ big forums... | 12:34 |
| Hieronymus | Okay, hold on a sec | 12:34 |
| Hieronymus | http://forums.gideontech.com/index.php/topic,34476.0.html | 12:35 |
| Hieronymus | You'll want to read page 4, that alone will get you hooked | 12:35 |
| Hieronymus | "My marketing efforts will dominate your face" | 12:35 |
| tsmithe | oh god this thread is hilarious | 12:35 |
| tsmithe | i've just got to My marketing efforts | 12:36 |
| tsmithe | hahahaahaa | 12:36 |
| tsmithe | we need this in the topic! | 12:36 |
| adamant1988 | tsmithe: Yeah, it's pretty funny. | 12:36 |
| tsmithe | jenda, now! | 12:36 |
| tsmithe | pah he's asleep | 12:36 |
| tsmithe | ops? | 12:36 |
| tsmithe | Madpilot, ? | 12:36 |
| Madpilot | tsmithe, hmm? | 12:37 |
| tsmithe | we need "My marketing efforts will dominate your face" in the topic | 12:37 |
| Hieronymus | It's the new 'all your base are belong to us', you can even get it on t-shirts at cafe press | 12:37 |
| tsmithe | haha | 12:37 |
| Hieronymus | Now if only we can get Canonical to replace some of the images he's hotlinking from ubuntu.com with goatse and tubgirl, it will be just like the old days... | 12:38 |
| tsmithe | haha | 12:39 |
| Hieronymus | I need to find someone who's a longtime member of the Ubuntu forums to put up a post for me, warning about Zio Systems | 12:40 |
| beuno | jenda is a good candidate for that | 12:40 |
| Hieronymus | I worry that registering and having it as my first post is going to look a little fishy | 12:40 |
| Madpilot | "Loonier than a bag of Canadian dollars."... hehe | 12:40 |
| Hieronymus | Not that I shouldn't register, I've been using Ubuntu for a year now | 12:41 |
| Hieronymus | You'll start to hate me for linking you to it be around page 200 | 12:42 |
| Madpilot | "Of course Zio refuses to be constrained by the republofascist conspiracy of the Earth hour, and uses Venus hours instead. So, July 2008."... oh boy. | 12:43 |
| Hieronymus | It's internet history in the making I tell you | 12:44 |
| adamant1988 | Hieronymus: Don't worry about it. Just post the thread, you've done the research so you can make a detailed thread | 12:46 |
| Hieronymus | Okay, I'll work something up tonight and try to get it posted, if not it will be tomorrow | 12:46 |
| Hieronymus | And can someone tell me why this nutter insisted on using 'uBuntu' instead of 'Ubuntu'? | 12:47 |
| Hieronymus | Was the 'B' capitalized at some point? | 12:48 |
| adamant1988 | nope. | 12:49 |
| Hieronymus | I didn't think so | 12:50 |
| Hieronymus | I just asked Brad why he spelled it that way | 12:56 |
| tsmithe | you can talk to him? | 12:57 |
| Hieronymus | Via AIM | 12:59 |
| Hieronymus | ZioHelp on AIM | 12:59 |
| Hieronymus | He likes to pretend it's not him but it is | 12:59 |
| Madpilot | Hieronymus, you are a bastard, I need to go run shopping errands but that GTF thread has sucked me in... ;) | 01:01 |
| Hieronymus | He won't come on the gideontech forum anymore, he gets hammered when he does | 01:01 |
| Hieronymus | Told you you'd hate me | 01:01 |
| Hieronymus | It's more addictive than Lost | 01:01 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:Madpilot] : Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's IRC channel | We're here to fix Bug #1 | Keep in mind that whatever your LoCo does, any other LoCo can benefit from your work or experience! | Please sign up to the mailing list, ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com | Beuno is doing UWN | UWN #35 is out, UWN #36 is in progress to be released Sunday April 15th | "My marketing efforts will dominate your face" :P | ||
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| Madpilot | there | 01:02 |
| Hieronymus | I'm just waiting to talk to Gideon about posting a warning on the Ubuntu forums, could lead to a good deal of traffic and I want to make sure he's aware of it beforehand | 01:02 |
| Hieronymus | That said, he did weather the Digg well enough | 01:03 |
| adamant1988 | Hieronymus: It wouldn't be anymore than Digg got him | 01:04 |
| adamant1988 | UbuntuForums are a much smaller place than Digg | 01:04 |
| Hieronymus | Well I'll still give him advance warning that's only fair | 01:05 |
| tsmithe | seriously, i'm addicted as well | 01:05 |
| tsmithe | and woot topic! | 01:05 |
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| Hieronymus | And it will give him time to get his adsense in order | 01:05 |
| tsmithe | christ i'm tired | 01:05 |
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| Hieronymus | Okay, email sent to webmaster@ ubuntu.com and canonical.com | 01:39 |
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| Madpilot | right, there's two hours wasted on the Zio-saga. Enough. Need food and a shopping trip. | 02:41 |
| adamant1988 | Madpilot: LOL | 02:50 |
| adamant1988 | I went through that thread when it was still -50 pages. | 02:50 |
| adamant1988 | I'm too scared to go back now | 02:50 |
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| jenda | What did I miss? | 08:25 |
| jenda | Everyone check the front page of the forums _NOW_ | 08:25 |
| poningru | hmm? | 08:34 |
| pwnguin | indeed | 08:36 |
| pwnguin | what should i be looking at? | 08:36 |
| jenda | poningru, pwnguin, look for the word "Weekly" | 08:38 |
| poningru | oh cool | 08:39 |
| poningru | meh | 08:39 |
| poningru | is that dynamic? | 08:39 |
| jenda | the link to the wiki is temporary | 08:39 |
| poningru | or will it always be there? | 08:39 |
| jenda | there will be a subforum where each UWN will have it's own thread with comments underneath | 08:39 |
| jenda | but yes, that spot is permanent | 08:40 |
| jenda | (as permanent as can be, in the shifting sands of the internet :)) | 08:40 |
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| tsmithe | CDs damnit | 10:38 |
| tsmithe | i will kill the guy the invented "CD's" | 10:38 |
| tsmithe | RARGH!!!!! | 10:38 |
| tsmithe | *that invented | 10:38 |
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| jenda | tsmithe: *who | 10:54 |
| jenda | Hey, Mike_F | 10:54 |
| jenda | Didya get me mail? | 10:54 |
| tsmithe | jenda, what? | 10:54 |
| jenda | tsmithe: not 'the', not 'that', but 'who' :) | 10:56 |
| jenda | if you want it to be english, that is ;) | 10:56 |
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| === jenda really does have to run, so does. | ||
| tsmithe | nuthin' wrong with "that" | 10:56 |
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| Mike_F | jenda: yes, i want ten posters | 11:03 |
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| jenda | Mike_F: coolio | 11:19 |
| jenda | Mike_F: you should find all the source files on diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu | 11:20 |
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| Mike_F | jenda:ping | 12:06 |
| jenda | Mike_F: pong | 12:06 |
| jenda | juliux: ping | 12:06 |
| juliux | jenda, pong | 12:06 |
| jenda | | . | | 12:06 |
| jenda | | . | | 12:07 |
| jenda | :) | 12:07 |
| juliux | | .| | 12:07 |
| juliux | yeah;9 | 12:07 |
| Mike_F | just woke up again, i thought it was later before | 12:07 |
| jenda | juliux: it seems most of the books were cancelled, because they miscalculated the shipping | 12:07 |
| juliux | jenda, hehe and now? | 12:08 |
| jenda | ...so it is quite probably that none will come at all | 12:08 |
| jenda | and if they do, I have no idea how many :-D | 12:08 |
| juliux | omg | 12:08 |
| jenda | so we'll just have to see, and if they come, I'll go fetch them. | 12:09 |
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| === juliux wants to meet jenda | ||
| jenda | hehe | 12:09 |
| jenda | :) | 12:09 |
| jenda | We'll find a way sooner or later - we're just some 50 away from each other ;) | 12:09 |
| jenda | :-D | 12:10 |
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| Mike_F | jenda: may i reproduce any of the things in that folder ? | 12:10 |
| jenda | Mike_F: of course, you're very welcome to :) | 12:10 |
| jenda | all GPL, GFDL or CC | 12:10 |
| jenda | Use common sense when attributing - the artwork is the work of Hannes Pasqualini. | 12:11 |
| Mike_F | okay: just want people to know about ubuntu | 12:11 |
| jenda | Yep :) | 12:12 |
| jenda | That's the entire purpose of the marketing team ;) | 12:12 |
| jenda | BTW, I have about 70 of the posters left | 12:12 |
| Mike_F | Okay, i sent you a mail message | 12:12 |
| Mike_F | i need to get some money into my paypal account | 12:13 |
| Mike_F | i think it's zeroed out | 12:13 |
| jenda | alrighty | 12:13 |
| Mike_F | also i like the poster the road image is like my OnA1A logo | 12:14 |
| juliux | jenda, are you going to uds? | 12:14 |
| Mike_F | uds? | 12:14 |
| jenda | juliux: depends on the | 12:14 |
| jenda | :) | 12:14 |
| jenda | Mike_F: Ubuntu Developer Summit | 12:14 |
| Mike_F | oh, wrong conversation | 12:15 |
| juliux | jenda, i will not go to uds, i didn't get a sponsorship | 12:15 |
| tsmithe | i would have done :'9 | 12:15 |
| tsmithe | *( | 12:15 |
| Mike_F | it's still early here in Florida | 12:15 |
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| jenda | juliux: you were told it was refused? | 12:17 |
| jenda | juliux: or just didn't get it _yet_? | 12:17 |
| juliux | jenda, richard weidmann talked with mark this week and mark said no :8 | 12:17 |
| jenda | ouch | 12:18 |
| juliux | mark said he has to make a line and so no more sponsorships | 12:18 |
| jenda | I didn't get a chance to apply for it yet... do you have any tips where to start/ask? | 12:18 |
| juliux | no idea | 12:18 |
| juliux | i get it via the edubuntu way | 12:18 |
| jenda | argh | 12:18 |
| Mike_F | are any plans for anything like UDS on the east coast of the US | 12:20 |
| Mike_F | Like in Orlando Fla ? | 12:20 |
| jenda | Mike_F: the next one is in Boston | 12:20 |
| Mike_F | when 2008? | 12:20 |
| jenda | should be late 2007 | 12:20 |
| jenda | there are two a year | 12:20 |
| Mike_F | the weather is horriable there in the winter | 12:20 |
| juliux | Mike_F, 28th ocotober starts uds in boston | 12:21 |
| Mike_F | falls noy bad, i hate the red sox | 12:22 |
| juliux | lol | 12:22 |
| juliux | cu later | 12:23 |
| Mike_F | jenda: i can setup a mirror folder it thats okay | 12:26 |
| jenda | Mike_F: you're free to do so | 12:27 |
| jenda | Not sure if it's needed... but you can, if you want to | 12:27 |
| Mike_F | okay | 12:28 |
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| charl_ie | hi | 03:31 |
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| charl_ie | i don't know if anyone remembers the ideas pitched in the mailing list on march 20th about a sort of "Ubuntu Upgrade Adviser", but i wondered if anyone was interested in taking it further | 03:32 |
| jenda | hello | 03:38 |
| jenda | tsmithe++ @ LiveCDs ;) | 03:38 |
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| MenZa | jenda: :D | 03:56 |
| jenda | hmm? :) | 03:56 |
| MenZa | hihi | 03:56 |
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| poningru | can someone write on the w.u.c/FeistyFawn/RC about OEM and get all the screenshots? | 04:51 |
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| tsmithe | jenda, you around? | 07:47 |
| tsmithe | meh | 07:48 |
| tsmithe | i need someone who knows about the old "Spread Ubuntu"... | 07:48 |
| tsmithe | well; anyway: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-April/004063.html | 07:49 |
| tsmithe | do people know about this? | 07:49 |
| tonyyarusso | tsmithe: First I've heard of the uk one | 07:51 |
| tsmithe | well, it's a bit odd... | 07:51 |
| tsmithe | i kinda think it wants collaboration with this team | 07:51 |
| adamant1988 | tsmithe: I was around while they were working on it | 08:01 |
| tsmithe | on what? | 08:01 |
| tsmithe | spreadubuntu.co.uk ? | 08:01 |
| adamant1988 | just spreadUbuntu in general | 08:02 |
| tsmithe | yes... but that's not what that is | 08:03 |
| tsmithe | or is it? | 08:03 |
| tsmithe | that's what i wanna know | 08:03 |
| tsmithe | as i said, it wants collaboration with the original purveyors of the idea | 08:04 |
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| somerville32 | Moo | 08:55 |
| tonyyarusso | Baa | 08:56 |
| tsmithe | hiya somerville32 - you out of hospital yet? | 08:56 |
| somerville32 | Nope. | 08:57 |
| somerville32 | I'm getting discharged tomorrow though. | 08:58 |
| tonyyarusso | what happened? | 08:58 |
| somerville32 | I got admitted to the hospital Febuary 8th | 08:59 |
| tonyyarusso | for? | 09:00 |
| tonyyarusso | (If you care to share) | 09:00 |
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| tsmithe | feb 8th ... that's my birthday. how sad... :'( | 09:00 |
| juliux | somerville32, all the best from me | 09:00 |
| somerville32 | Thanks! :) | 09:00 |
| somerville32 | I'm getting out tomorrow | 09:01 |
| === somerville32 is excited. | ||
| tsmithe | great! | 09:01 |
| tonyyarusso | :) | 09:01 |
| tonyyarusso | I feel bad about not doing anything on UWN lately - but the 'rents got me into a 45-hour per week job :( | 09:03 |
| somerville32 | Ouch. | 09:05 |
| tonyyarusso | On the plus side though, I get a 50% discount on a new bicycle, so I'm gonna buy a really expensive one and make the most of it | 09:05 |
| somerville32 | lol | 09:06 |
| tonyyarusso | (Well, really I'm just going to spend the same amount of money I was thinking about before I got the job, and just get twice the bike) | 09:07 |
| somerville32 | <g> | 09:07 |
| MitchM | what type of bike tonyyarusso ? | 09:07 |
| tonyyarusso | MitchM: Specialized Roubaix - http://www.specialized.com/, Select a country (USA actually gives prices) > Road bikes > Roubaix to see 'em | 09:08 |
| tonyyarusso | Or at least that seems best so far | 09:08 |
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| MitchM | Why not one of these? http://powersports.honda.com/motorcycles/sport/model.asp?ModelName=CBR600F4i&ModelYear=2006&ModelId=CBR600F46 | 09:11 |
| MitchM | :) | 09:11 |
| tonyyarusso | MitchM: Uh, b/c it has a motor, and is therefore not the idea here | 09:13 |
| MitchM | ah. but of course... | 09:13 |
| MitchM | looks like a nice set of bikes though tonyyarusso -- I've been looking around myself | 09:13 |
| MitchM | thanks for the link :) | 09:14 |
| tonyyarusso | np :) | 09:14 |
| tonyyarusso | If you live in the Twin Cities, Minnesota or Madison, WI, eriksbikeshop.com for a dealer | 09:14 |
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| tonyyarusso | nixternal: Say, do you have any of those polos in a medium? | 10:42 |
| jenda | tsmithe: I am not, no. | 11:08 |
| tsmithe | well... | 11:09 |
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