[12:09] Maybe I should just contact Canonical [12:10] Hrmmm hold on. [12:10] Link me to the site. [12:11] http://www.ziosys.com === zerbero_ [n=jga@p213.54.168.253.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:11] It's a long story, it's run by a 19 year old kid who's actively scamming people [12:11] Hieronymus: I've read about that. [12:12] I'm one of the 'internet sleuths' that's been investigating him on the gideontech.com forums [12:12] Uh huh [12:13] All this Ubuntu stuff he's posted went up today, or at least the bulk of it, the content is directly copied and the images hotlinked [12:13] Well, I think the best course of action would be to post a well thought out article on the UbuntuForums warning people not to buy. [12:14] include links to the gideontech thread. Also, you may want to alert Canonical, but I kind of doubt they'll do much. [12:14] I'd considered that but one has to be careful, he's shown a proficiency at threatening legal action [12:16] Hieronymus: the operative word there being "threatening" [12:16] a threat is just that, a threat. [12:16] Yes, I don't take it seriously, he's defrauding customers, it's not like he has much ground to stand on [12:17] I get the feeling that a cash-strapped, mentally unstable 19 year old isn't going to make good on that threat. [12:17] scamming? defrauding? how? [12:17] site doesn't look tooo bad [12:17] He's 'sold' at least a couple systems and then failed to deliver [12:17] oh [12:18] how can he threaten legal action then?! [12:18] We're also investigating several other potential frauds, one or more in excess of ten grand [12:18] stupid ruddy capitalism again [12:18] tsmithe: That's part of the issue, his site is well designed... I kind of wish he were a legit vendor. [12:18] He's a piece of work, the thread on gideontech.com is soon to be internet history [12:18] Hieronymus: "My marketing efforts will dominate your face". [12:19] Dig a little deeper and you'll start finding the problems, he's put a good face on it but there's a good bit of problem beneath === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:19] Yes, "My marketing efforts will dominate your face" is soon to be the new "all your base..." [12:19] Hieronymus: I think it's worth the time to post a well laid out warning post on the Ubuntu forums === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has left #ubuntu-marketing [".:porc::inca::dito::love:."] [12:20] Agreed, I've not registered for the forums yet but will do and get something posted [12:20] Although most Ubuntu users are also Digg users and will have already seen this, it's best not to assume anything when dealing with fraud. [12:20] I got into it from the Digg originally, it's become more addictive than Lost at this point [12:25] Hieronymus: why not try contacting canonical about it? [12:26] Beuno, that's what I'm hoping to do, still looking for a way to do so [12:26] Hieronymus: webmaster@canonical.com [12:27] Yes, that looks like the only point of contact right now [12:28] Hieronymus: give it a try, if you don't get any response ping me again and we'll get it through somehow [12:29] Okay, will do, it's obviously late evening in the UK so probably no answer until tomorrow at the earliest [12:29] Wow, there's something badly wrong with that ziosys website - everytime I hover over the dropdown menus, the whole site reformats itself... wtf? [12:30] Hieronymus: don't be surprised if it takes a few days [12:30] Told you, it's a trainwreck === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-70-239-47-60.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:30] Notice as well that he's not got his SSL configured correctly, he's taking orders over the phone instead [12:31] Madpilot: must be your resolution, I can hover fine [12:31] beuno, might also be some screwy piece of code that Opera doesn't like [12:31] aaah, opera [12:31] yes [12:31] could be [12:31] Ah, that's right, it's not set for Opera [12:32] It's a commercially available Joomla template that he's boosted without crediting the author [12:32] Much like most of what he's put on the site [12:32] Hieronymus, this keeps getting better and better... :| [12:32] Oh, you want entertainment, head over to gideontech.com and read all about it in the thread [12:33] You'll need at least four to six hours to read it all, we up to page 360 right now [12:33] damn [12:33] The kid is batsh*t insane [12:34] The shame of it is that he's still at it, and likely defrauding more and more people as he goes along [12:34] link us directly to the forum thread? gid is a big site, w/ big forums... [12:34] Okay, hold on a sec [12:35] http://forums.gideontech.com/index.php/topic,34476.0.html [12:35] You'll want to read page 4, that alone will get you hooked [12:35] "My marketing efforts will dominate your face" [12:35] oh god this thread is hilarious [12:36] i've just got to My marketing efforts [12:36] hahahaahaa [12:36] we need this in the topic! [12:36] tsmithe: Yeah, it's pretty funny. [12:36] jenda, now! [12:36] pah he's asleep [12:36] ops? [12:36] Madpilot, ? [12:37] tsmithe, hmm? [12:37] we need "My marketing efforts will dominate your face" in the topic [12:37] It's the new 'all your base are belong to us', you can even get it on t-shirts at cafe press [12:37] haha [12:38] Now if only we can get Canonical to replace some of the images he's hotlinking from ubuntu.com with goatse and tubgirl, it will be just like the old days... [12:39] haha [12:40] I need to find someone who's a longtime member of the Ubuntu forums to put up a post for me, warning about Zio Systems [12:40] jenda is a good candidate for that [12:40] I worry that registering and having it as my first post is going to look a little fishy [12:40] "Loonier than a bag of Canadian dollars."... hehe [12:41] Not that I shouldn't register, I've been using Ubuntu for a year now [12:42] You'll start to hate me for linking you to it be around page 200 [12:43] "Of course Zio refuses to be constrained by the republofascist conspiracy of the Earth hour, and uses Venus hours instead. So, July 2008."... oh boy. [12:44] It's internet history in the making I tell you [12:46] Hieronymus: Don't worry about it. Just post the thread, you've done the research so you can make a detailed thread [12:46] Okay, I'll work something up tonight and try to get it posted, if not it will be tomorrow [12:47] And can someone tell me why this nutter insisted on using 'uBuntu' instead of 'Ubuntu'? [12:48] Was the 'B' capitalized at some point? [12:49] nope. [12:50] I didn't think so [12:56] I just asked Brad why he spelled it that way [12:57] you can talk to him? [12:59] Via AIM [12:59] ZioHelp on AIM [12:59] He likes to pretend it's not him but it is [01:01] Hieronymus, you are a bastard, I need to go run shopping errands but that GTF thread has sucked me in... ;) [01:01] He won't come on the gideontech forum anymore, he gets hammered when he does [01:01] Told you you'd hate me [01:01] It's more addictive than Lost === mode/#ubuntu-marketing [+o Madpilot] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:Madpilot] : Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's IRC channel | We're here to fix Bug #1 | Keep in mind that whatever your LoCo does, any other LoCo can benefit from your work or experience! | Please sign up to the mailing list, ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com | Beuno is doing UWN | UWN #35 is out, UWN #36 is in progress to be released Sunday April 15th | "My marketing efforts will dominate your face" :P === mode/#ubuntu-marketing [-o Madpilot] by ChanServ [01:02] there [01:02] I'm just waiting to talk to Gideon about posting a warning on the Ubuntu forums, could lead to a good deal of traffic and I want to make sure he's aware of it beforehand [01:03] That said, he did weather the Digg well enough [01:04] Hieronymus: It wouldn't be anymore than Digg got him [01:04] UbuntuForums are a much smaller place than Digg [01:05] Well I'll still give him advance warning that's only fair [01:05] seriously, i'm addicted as well [01:05] and woot topic! === tsmithe sleep [01:05] And it will give him time to get his adsense in order [01:05] christ i'm tired === Thalanox [n=linuxnew@CABLE-206-188-76-236.cia.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Kopete] === Thalanox [n=linuxnew@CABLE-206-188-76-236.cia.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Thalanox [n=linuxnew@CABLE-206-188-76-236.cia.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Kopete] [01:39] Okay, email sent to webmaster@ ubuntu.com and canonical.com === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-70-239-47-60.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:41] right, there's two hours wasted on the Zio-saga. Enough. Need food and a shopping trip. [02:50] Madpilot: LOL [02:50] I went through that thread when it was still -50 pages. [02:50] I'm too scared to go back now === yama` [n=yama@ppp45-181.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zerbero__ [n=jga@p85.212.5.91.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Cnl_Delta [i=Cnl_Delt@124.125.38.240] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:25] What did I miss? [08:25] Everyone check the front page of the forums _NOW_ [08:34] hmm? [08:36] indeed [08:36] what should i be looking at? [08:38] poningru, pwnguin, look for the word "Weekly" [08:39] oh cool [08:39] meh [08:39] is that dynamic? [08:39] the link to the wiki is temporary [08:39] or will it always be there? [08:39] there will be a subforum where each UWN will have it's own thread with comments underneath [08:40] but yes, that spot is permanent [08:40] (as permanent as can be, in the shifting sands of the internet :)) === Cnl_Delta [i=Cnl_Delt@124.125.38.240] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === xipietotec [n=jackfros@194.115.109.66.static.dis.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@ubuntu/member/admiral-chicago] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:38] CDs damnit [10:38] i will kill the guy the invented "CD's" [10:38] RARGH!!!!! [10:38] *that invented === Mike_F [n=mike@user-0c6s66t.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:54] tsmithe: *who [10:54] Hey, Mike_F [10:54] Didya get me mail? [10:54] jenda, what? [10:56] tsmithe: not 'the', not 'that', but 'who' :) [10:56] if you want it to be english, that is ;) === jenda runs === jenda really does have to run, so does. [10:56] nuthin' wrong with "that" === Zerlinna [n=mirjam@C2a51.c.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:03] jenda: yes, i want ten posters === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mrmonday_ [n=mrmonday@84.13.71.2] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mrmonday_ [n=mrmonday@84.13.71.2] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] [11:19] Mike_F: coolio [11:20] Mike_F: you should find all the source files on diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@vawad-xen1.err.no] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === mrmonday [n=mrmonday@84.13.71.2] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B26C1F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Cnl_Delta [i=Cnl_Delt@124.125.38.240] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === yama [n=yama@ppp9-182.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:06] jenda:ping [12:06] Mike_F: pong [12:06] juliux: ping [12:06] jenda, pong [12:06] | . | [12:07] | . | [12:07] :) [12:07] | .| [12:07] yeah;9 [12:07] just woke up again, i thought it was later before [12:07] juliux: it seems most of the books were cancelled, because they miscalculated the shipping [12:08] jenda, hehe and now? [12:08] ...so it is quite probably that none will come at all [12:08] and if they do, I have no idea how many :-D [12:08] omg [12:09] so we'll just have to see, and if they come, I'll go fetch them. === juliux hopes they come;) === juliux wants to meet jenda [12:09] hehe [12:09] :) [12:09] We'll find a way sooner or later - we're just some 50 away from each other ;) [12:10] :-D === jenda has started measuring distances in [12:10] jenda: may i reproduce any of the things in that folder ? [12:10] Mike_F: of course, you're very welcome to :) [12:10] all GPL, GFDL or CC [12:11] Use common sense when attributing - the artwork is the work of Hannes Pasqualini. [12:11] okay: just want people to know about ubuntu [12:12] Yep :) [12:12] That's the entire purpose of the marketing team ;) [12:12] BTW, I have about 70 of the posters left [12:12] Okay, i sent you a mail message [12:13] i need to get some money into my paypal account [12:13] i think it's zeroed out [12:13] alrighty [12:14] also i like the poster the road image is like my OnA1A logo [12:14] jenda, are you going to uds? [12:14] uds? [12:14] juliux: depends on the [12:14] :) [12:14] Mike_F: Ubuntu Developer Summit [12:15] oh, wrong conversation [12:15] jenda, i will not go to uds, i didn't get a sponsorship [12:15] i would have done :'9 [12:15] *( [12:15] it's still early here in Florida === tsmithe is melancholy [12:17] juliux: you were told it was refused? [12:17] juliux: or just didn't get it _yet_? [12:17] jenda, richard weidmann talked with mark this week and mark said no :8 [12:18] ouch [12:18] mark said he has to make a line and so no more sponsorships [12:18] I didn't get a chance to apply for it yet... do you have any tips where to start/ask? [12:18] no idea [12:18] i get it via the edubuntu way [12:18] argh [12:20] are any plans for anything like UDS on the east coast of the US [12:20] Like in Orlando Fla ? [12:20] Mike_F: the next one is in Boston [12:20] when 2008? [12:20] should be late 2007 [12:20] there are two a year [12:20] the weather is horriable there in the winter [12:21] Mike_F, 28th ocotober starts uds in boston [12:22] falls noy bad, i hate the red sox [12:22] lol [12:23] cu later [12:26] jenda: i can setup a mirror folder it thats okay [12:27] Mike_F: you're free to do so [12:27] Not sure if it's needed... but you can, if you want to [12:28] okay === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-59.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Cnl_Delta [i=Cnl_Delt@124.125.38.240] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === charl_ie [n=Charlie@212-139-65-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:31] hi === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] [03:32] i don't know if anyone remembers the ideas pitched in the mailing list on march 20th about a sort of "Ubuntu Upgrade Adviser", but i wondered if anyone was interested in taking it further [03:38] hello [03:38] tsmithe++ @ LiveCDs ;) === tsmithe [n=tsmithe@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [03:56] jenda: :D [03:56] hmm? :) [03:56] hihi === charl_ie [n=Charlie@212-139-65-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === mrmonday_ [n=mrmonday@84.13.71.2] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mrmonday [n=mrmonday@84.13.71.2] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:51] can someone write on the w.u.c/FeistyFawn/RC about OEM and get all the screenshots? === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MitchM [n=MitchM@63.78.48.3] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-66-139-197-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === adamant1988 [n=chatzill@doc-24-206-202-2.el.wv.cebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tsmithe [n=tsmithe@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:47] jenda, you around? [07:48] meh [07:48] i need someone who knows about the old "Spread Ubuntu"... [07:49] well; anyway: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-April/004063.html [07:49] do people know about this? [07:51] tsmithe: First I've heard of the uk one [07:51] well, it's a bit odd... [07:51] i kinda think it wants collaboration with this team [08:01] tsmithe: I was around while they were working on it [08:01] on what? [08:01] spreadubuntu.co.uk ? [08:02] just spreadUbuntu in general [08:03] yes... but that's not what that is [08:03] or is it? [08:03] that's what i wanna know [08:04] as i said, it wants collaboration with the original purveyors of the idea === adamant1988 [n=chatzill@doc-24-206-202-2.el.wv.cebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === somerville32 [n=cody-som@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgwork [n=corey@sacc-66-78-247-43.smartcity.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:55] Moo [08:56] Baa [08:56] hiya somerville32 - you out of hospital yet? [08:57] Nope. [08:58] I'm getting discharged tomorrow though. [08:58] what happened? [08:59] I got admitted to the hospital Febuary 8th [09:00] for? [09:00] (If you care to share) === tonyyarusso is clearly out of the loop [09:00] feb 8th ... that's my birthday. how sad... :'( [09:00] somerville32, all the best from me [09:00] Thanks! :) [09:01] I'm getting out tomorrow === somerville32 is excited. [09:01] great! [09:01] :) [09:03] I feel bad about not doing anything on UWN lately - but the 'rents got me into a 45-hour per week job :( [09:05] Ouch. [09:05] On the plus side though, I get a 50% discount on a new bicycle, so I'm gonna buy a really expensive one and make the most of it [09:06] lol [09:07] (Well, really I'm just going to spend the same amount of money I was thinking about before I got the job, and just get twice the bike) [09:07] [09:07] what type of bike tonyyarusso ? [09:08] MitchM: Specialized Roubaix - http://www.specialized.com/, Select a country (USA actually gives prices) > Road bikes > Roubaix to see 'em [09:08] Or at least that seems best so far === tonyyarusso is still thinking [09:11] Why not one of these? http://powersports.honda.com/motorcycles/sport/model.asp?ModelName=CBR600F4i&ModelYear=2006&ModelId=CBR600F46 [09:11] :) [09:13] MitchM: Uh, b/c it has a motor, and is therefore not the idea here [09:13] ah. but of course... [09:13] looks like a nice set of bikes though tonyyarusso -- I've been looking around myself [09:14] thanks for the link :) [09:14] np :) [09:14] If you live in the Twin Cities, Minnesota or Madison, WI, eriksbikeshop.com for a dealer === tsmithe [n=tsmithe@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === philwyett [n=philwyet@bb-87-81-146-45.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:42] nixternal: Say, do you have any of those polos in a medium? [11:08] tsmithe: I am not, no. 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