[12:40] <joejaxx> asac: gnomefreak should i be at the next meeting?
[12:57] <asac> joejaxx: if you have something to discuss feel free to propose a topic :)
[12:57] <gnomefreak> i was just about to ping you
[12:57] <gnomefreak> feisty+1 are we dumping libnspr4 and libnss?
[12:58] <asac> no ... they come from different place
[12:58] <asac> i will give you infos too
[12:58] <asac> you would have to build those as well for your archive ... then respin iceape and firefox-trunk
[12:58] <asac> using those
[12:59] <gnomefreak> using libnss and libnspr4?
[12:59] <asac> if we have nss + nspr in your archive and all mozilla apps using those, we are close to what we want in feisty
[12:59] <poningru> woah nice
[12:59] <gnomefreak> dont they already use them?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[12:59] <asac> firefox provides them ... but thats bad ... others duplicate them mostly
[01:00] <gnomefreak> well ill make you a deal ill add them to depends you add them to rules?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:00] <asac> hehe
[01:00] <asac> you won't have to change anything
[01:01] <gnomefreak> no?
[01:01] <asac> no
[01:01] <gnomefreak> oh sweet
[01:01] <gnomefreak> give me a hint and ill start with iceape mt5 with those
[01:02] <asac> how big are your changes to iceape atm?
[01:02] <asac> e.g. what does a bzr diff give you?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> nothing
[01:03] <gnomefreak> :(
[01:03] <gnomefreak> tells me its not a branch
[01:03] <gnomefreak> no matter where im cd'ed into
[01:04] <asac> ah
[01:04] <asac> right
[01:04] <asac> you are on svn :)
[01:04] <asac> what does svn diff yield :)
[01:05] <gnomefreak> will be up in a minute
[01:05] <gnomefreak> http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/435444
[01:06] <gnomefreak> mostly cosmetic
[01:06] <gnomefreak> you made biggest change
[01:06] <asac> what did you do with the changelog?
[01:06] <asac> you wiped all history?
[01:07] <gnomefreak> had to or it wouldnt build
[01:07] <gnomefreak> it kept bitching at me for version
[01:07] <asac> ah thats bullshit :)
[01:07] <asac> definitly
[01:07] <gnomefreak> not here its not.
[01:07] <asac> it builds unchanged, right?
[01:08] <asac> gnomefreak:
[01:08] <gnomefreak> if i did not change version to mt it would have built
[01:08] <asac> do an svn revert debian/changelog
[01:08] <asac> this will wipe out your changes
[01:09] <gnomefreak> i have to clean it first
[01:09] <gnomefreak> svn: Your .svn/tmp directory may be missing or corrupt; run 'svn cleanup' and try again
[01:09] <gnomefreak> svn cleanup gives me that error
[01:10] <asac> yeah
[01:10] <asac> run it from inside debian dir
[01:10] <asac> e.g.
[01:10] <gnomefreak> .svn is there tmp is not there
[01:10] <asac> svn revert changelog
[01:10] <gnomefreak> i did
[01:11] <gnomefreak> thats where i had to run all of the svn commands
[01:11] <asac> ok
[01:11] <asac> svn status ?
[01:11] <asac> svn status -q
[01:11] <asac> please
[01:11] <asac> not the first :)
[01:12] <gnomefreak>   L    .
[01:12] <gnomefreak> M      control
[01:12] <gnomefreak> M      rules
[01:12] <gnomefreak> M      remove.nonfree
[01:12] <gnomefreak> M      changelog
[01:12] <asac> your working copy is locked
[01:12] <asac> aka 'L'
[01:13] <asac> you must have killed a running svn process or something
[01:13] <gnomefreak> not that i know of :(
[01:13] <gnomefreak> not since the last build
[01:13] <asac> apparently you did
[01:13] <asac> why would it lock otherwise?
[01:13] <asac> maybe svn unlock helps?
[01:14] <asac> repo stuff?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> svn: Not enough arguments provided; try 'svn help' for more info
[01:15] <gnomefreak> asac: yeah the uploading of packages the release file the packages.gz and sources.gz
[01:15] <asac> opk
[01:15] <asac> svn unlock .
[01:15] <asac> ?
[01:15] <asac> as . is locked according to status
[01:15] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[01:15] <asac> does it do something?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> im in debian and running that it tells me svn: '/home/gnomefreak/iceape-feisty/iceape-1.1.1' is not a working copy
[01:16] <gnomefreak> svn unlocik .svn?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> unlock
[01:16] <asac> hmmm ... maybe go to #svn ... paste the status and ask how you can remove the lock please ... i guess you will have the answer in a minute
[01:16] <asac> honestly i have no idea ... and i don't like svn :)
[01:17] <gnomefreak> there will see what happens
[01:20] <gnomefreak> sad. i know noone in there :(
[01:21] <asac> is there a lock file somewhere?
[01:22] <asac> in .svn
[01:22] <asac> find .svn | grep lock ;)
[01:22] <gnomefreak> .svn/lock
[01:22] <gnomefreak> remove it?
[01:23] <asac> if you are brave yes
[01:23] <asac> :)
[01:23] <asac> maybe backup the svn diff somewhere
[01:23] <asac> so you can reapply in case it breaks things
[01:23] <gnomefreak> opk where were we
[01:24] <gnomefreak> grrr
[01:26] <gnomefreak> why not grab my source and ill just re-add all other changelog entries i should still have them
[01:27] <gnomefreak> and i will attempt to build it again with all entries in there
[01:27] <asac> because this is no long term solution ... better get used to technologies now when we still have no urgent things :)
[01:27] <gnomefreak> svn isnt working atm :(
[01:27] <gnomefreak> everything i give it it tells me to kiss its ass
[01:28] <asac> yeah ... then backup the diff to some file
[01:28] <asac> recheckout
[01:28] <asac> and reapply diff
[01:28] <asac> e.g.
[01:28] <gnomefreak> it cant open .svn/entries and thats bull shit because i catted it no problem
[01:28] <asac> svn diff > $HOME/backup.patch
[01:28] <asac> then remove debian dir
[01:28] <asac> checkout again
[01:28] <asac> and do
[01:28] <asac> patch -p1 < $HOME/backup.patch
[01:29] <asac> this way you have the state you have now ... but without the lock
[01:29] <asac> gnomefreak: you must not edit anything in .svn
[01:29] <asac> :)
[01:29] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:29] <asac> thats why you cannot open .svn/entries
[01:29] <asac> ok
[01:29] <asac> anyway ... follow instructions above will heal you
[01:29] <asac> then you can do svn revert changelog
[01:30] <gnomefreak> svn will not work at all
[01:30] <asac> why?
[01:30] <gnomefreak> tyhat was my fault
[01:30] <asac> you edited some files?
[01:30] <asac> in .svn?
[01:30] <gnomefreak> no
[01:30] <asac> why else?
[01:30] <gnomefreak> i was in wrong dir
[01:31] <asac> when doing what?
[01:31] <gnomefreak> svn
[01:31] <asac> yeah
[01:31] <asac> so now go to right dir :)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> saving the diff i wasnt in debian
[01:31] <gnomefreak> i did already
[01:31] <asac> ah ... ok
[01:31] <asac> now its gone ?
[01:31] <gnomefreak> removing debian dir atm
[01:32] <asac> ok ... so everything is ok? diff done et al?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> yes im going for checkout atm
[01:32] <asac> uff ;)
[01:32] <asac> fine
[01:33] <gnomefreak> i should be in debian to run the patch p1 command?
[01:33] <gnomefreak> reapplying the diff
[01:35] <asac> yes in debian
[01:36] <gnomefreak> file to patch  i want changelog?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> The text leading up to this was:
[01:36] <gnomefreak> --------------------------
[01:36] <gnomefreak> |Index: control
[01:36] <gnomefreak> |[01:36] <gnomefreak> |--- control    (revision 39888)
[01:36] <gnomefreak> |+++ control    (working copy)
[01:36] <gnomefreak> --------------------------
[01:36] <gnomefreak> or control?
[01:38] <gnomefreak> last update i changed contrl rules and changelog
[01:49] <gnomefreak> i dont have an issue since it says control to patch the control file but what happens when i get down to changelog. oh maybe i can
[01:50] <gnomefreak> ok changelog now starts with your latest change
[01:51] <gnomefreak> do i add one changelog entry and make all changes to it than build?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> or just make a trival change to test?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ok new source is built. are we just testing this or am i building a mt5
[01:58] <gnomefreak> and can i name it mt5 in the changelog without my other changelog entries in there or do i need to start with mt0?
[01:59] <asac> you should get used to keep changelog histroy
[02:00] <asac> we might reset it once before we release this time (because there are lots of trial and error uploads i guess) ... but keeping is good
[02:00] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/changelog.mt1
[02:00] <asac> thats an example that i tried and that worked
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> is minefield just trunk mozilla products?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> fx3 is trunk build iirc
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> well someone asked the difference between Paradiso and Minefield
[02:05] <gnomefreak> branding
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> i realized that I didn't know
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see that now. yup
[02:07] <gnomefreak> i think minefield is official branding and gran paradiso is unofficial branding but as asac for better understanding of that
[02:09] <gnomefreak> ok off to eat i have it building wish i would have saved the damn error :(
[02:09] <gnomefreak> if i get it again i will have it
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: can you link me to your repo again?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> applying patch 10_components_no_exec to ./ ... failed.
[02:17] <gnomefreak> the errors have started asac
[02:17] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: yeah give me a sec
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: deb http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing feisty main
[02:18] <gnomefreak> deb-src http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing feisty main
[02:18] <gnomefreak> wtf
[02:19] <gnomefreak> ill fuck with this tomorrow night
[02:42] <gnomefreak> night meaning good night not tomorrow night
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> haha. night gnomefreak
[04:27] <[Cade] > gnomefreak: Are there any plans to wrap up Thunderbird2 RC1?
[11:05] <asac> bug 105593
[11:05] <ubotu> Malone bug 105593 in restricted-manager "claims that nvidia is in use on live system" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105593
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> ...why are we looking at this?
[11:24] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: -> meeting :)
[11:24] <asac> just didn't want to clutter meeting chat with bug title ;)
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> @now Chicago
[11:25] <ubotu> Current time in America/Chicago: April 12 2007, 04:25:03 - Next meeting: MOTU in 10 hours 34 minutes
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> eh?
[11:25] <asac> so i came here to talk to ubotu
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> ah I see
[11:25] <asac> development meetingi s now
[11:25] <asac> has been moved because of release
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> sounds good
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> let me see the general chatter
[11:25] <asac> ;)
[11:33] <asac> bug 100021
[11:33] <ubotu> Malone bug 100021 in network-manager "[Feisty]  LTSP fails on multi-homed server due to network manager touching predefined static interfaces" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/100021
[01:37] <gnomefreak> \@schedule new_york
[01:37] <gnomefreak> @schedule new_york
[01:37] <ubotu> Schedule for America/New_York: 12 Apr 16:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 16:00: Development Team | 12 Apr 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 16:00: Forum Council | 17 Apr 11:00: Kernel Team | 17 Apr 16:00: Community Council
[01:49] <gnomefreak> asac: sorry bout yesterday the package was scribus not iceape so i just figured that is the way it needed to be.
[01:51] <asac> gnomefreak: ? i can't remember ;)
[01:51] <gnomefreak> the changelog
[01:52] <asac> aha ;)
[01:53] <asac> what does it mean?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> Ubuntu 7.10 will feature a new flavour - as yet unnamed - which
[01:54] <gnomefreak> takes an ultra-orthodox view of licensing: no firmware, drivers,
[01:54] <gnomefreak> imagery, sounds, applications, or other content which do not include
[01:54] <gnomefreak> full source materials and come with full rights of modification,
[01:54] <gnomefreak> remixing and redistribution.
[01:55] <gnomefreak> is that the same you get from that?
[01:56] <poningru> buuh?
[01:56] <poningru> where are you reading that dude?
[01:56] <gnomefreak> Our aim is to open Gutsy for general
[01:56] <gnomefreak> upload on the same day that Feisty is released. Wherever you are, that
[01:56] <gnomefreak> will be a day for celebration. Go ape!
[01:56] <gnomefreak> poningru: email
[01:56] <poningru> right to whom?
[01:56] <gnomefreak> devel announcment mailing list
[01:57] <poningru> ah
[01:58] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:59] <asac> Go ape!
[01:59] <asac> i guess that means we ship iceape in main :)
[01:59] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:59] <gnomefreak> gibbons == an ape?
[01:59] <gnomefreak> Gutsy Gibbon is full name of devel release
[02:00] <asac> probably
[02:00] <asac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbon
[02:00] <asac> i think gibbons are no primates ... aka stupid apes
[02:01] <asac> oh its a primate ;)
[02:02] <asac> anyway ... i still think they are less developed than (chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans and humans)
[02:03] <poningru> I think humans are at teh bottom of that chain ;)
[02:04] <poningru> humans: the stupidest of all apes
[02:04] <asac> yeah ... humas are no primates but deathmates
[02:13] <gnomefreak> asac: anyway we can make upgrading iceape to official in repos from mt
[02:13] <asac> sure
[02:13] <asac> transition will be smooth
[02:13] <gnomefreak> k good
[02:14] <asac> if people have our mt archive, they will get whatever is newer
[02:14] <asac> e.g. mt ... or official
[02:14] <gnomefreak> so upgrading from mt to ubuntu1 isnt gonna cause an issue like it has in past with us
[02:15] <asac> yes ... because we have a full archive with Release.gpg et al
[02:15] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:16] <asac> currently feisty ... maybe we want to add gutsy there as well as soon as its available
[02:17] <gnomefreak> they will be opening for uploads (toolchain) not sure if before feisty release or the day its released
[02:17] <asac> yeah ... first they update toolchain
[02:18] <asac> as soon as feisty comes out we can upload as well
[02:18] <gnomefreak> you would have to check with keybuk on the details. im 95% sure hes scott
[02:18] <asac> he is
[02:18] <gnomefreak> we cant really do anything with out tool chain
[02:18] <asac> yes and no
[02:18] <asac> we can do everything in feisty
[02:19] <asac> then hope that new toolchain is not too broken
[02:19] <asac> so respin will just succeed
[02:19] <gnomefreak> yeah thats true
[02:19] <asac> we probably have to wait for loads of dependencies to be available
[02:20] <asac> yeah ... thats heroic ;)
[02:20] <asac> i go for chroots ;)
[02:20] <gnomefreak> well iirc most of our depends are >feistys version
[02:20] <gnomefreak> >=feisty
[02:20] <asac> yeah ... but those need to be respun
[02:20] <asac> with new toolchain
[02:20] <gnomefreak> yeah
[02:21] <gnomefreak> thats easy enough as long as its not too borked
[02:27] <asac> yeah
[02:27] <asac> i don't expect problems
[02:27] <asac> we (as in debian) always have toolchain problems
[02:27] <asac> but those are often on rare architectures
[02:28] <asac> as debian is one of the only users on those i guess
[02:28] <gnomefreak> ubuntu has had in past but feisty seemed fairly good
[02:28] <asac> yes ... but feisty did not do any major version upgrades in toolchain elements afaik
[02:28] <gnomefreak> true
[02:28] <gnomefreak> edgy had some issues
[02:28] <asac> anyway ... with mainstream architectures new toolchain should probably work out-of-box
[02:29] <gnomefreak> i think it was dapper that was bad all around in devel
[02:29] <gnomefreak> we can only build x86 and 64 right?
[02:29] <asac> at least if things break, there are more than one or two persons that can fix it and have the will to contribute ;)
[02:29] <gnomefreak> no need to worry about sparc?
[02:29] <asac> i think we will support sparc
[02:30] <gnomefreak> you have a sparc?
[02:30] <asac> afaik yes
[02:30] <asac> at least packages are build
[02:30] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[02:30] <gnomefreak> no need to worry about mac since feisty doesnt seem to promote mac anymore
[02:31] <gnomefreak> promote/support
[02:31] <asac> i worked quite a bit on sparc during internet hype
[02:31] <asac> we had a brokerage/banking customer that ran the application on a Sun E10K
[02:31] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:31] <asac> with about 64 CPUs
[02:31] <gnomefreak> 64 cpus?
[02:31] <asac> yeah
[02:32] <asac> iirc each ran on 400MhZ
[02:32] <gnomefreak> omg
[02:32] <asac> that things costed 2 or 3 million EUR
[02:32] <asac> crazy experience
[02:32] <asac> that thing got delivered
[02:32] <asac> we feared because not yet being ready with our milestone
[02:33] <asac> luckily it did not run with normal power
[02:33] <asac> like you can just plug in
[02:33] <asac> looking word up its called
[02:33] <asac> "threephase" power
[02:33] <asac> in english
[02:33] <asac> you know?
[02:33] <gnomefreak> yep
[02:34] <asac> anyway ... they got this cupboard delivered ... and recognized that they have no power
[02:34] <asac> took 2 weeks to get that done
[02:34] <asac> afterwards they had a sun consultant for weeks at the machine
[02:34] <asac> just to fix things like microcode in cpus et al
[02:34] <gnomefreak> omg
[02:34] <asac> as i said ... wieder experience
[02:34] <asac> wierd
[02:34] <gnomefreak> and they are worth it
[02:34] <gnomefreak> were
[02:35] <asac> the guy called "hardware doctor"
[02:35] <asac> :)
[02:35] <gnomefreak> that is alot of power though
[02:35] <asac> problem is you need to code highly scalable applications to utilize that much CPUs
[02:35] <asac> was not that easy back in those days
[02:35] <gnomefreak> true
[02:35] <asac> technology like EJB was just evolving
[02:36] <asac> anyway E10K was a locker full of Sun E4800 iirc
[02:36] <asac> that where connected with huge backpane to communicate
[02:37] <asac> i guess i will never see that again ;)
[02:37] <gnomefreak> ;)
[02:38] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[02:53] <asac> what a joy
[02:53] <asac> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/65164/comments/20
[02:53] <asac> great comment i'd say
[02:53] <ubotu> Malone bug 65164 in firefox "Firefox 2 can't save to fat32 partition" [Medium,In progress] 
[03:27] <asac> yes
[03:27] <asac> uploading is hard :)
[03:28] <gnomefreak> it is :)
[03:29] <gnomefreak> fixed the changelog so i figured now or never. once in repo make life easier
[03:31] <asac> Bug 105599
[03:31] <ubotu> Malone bug 105599 in firefox "After many hours of intense use FF finally crashed on Control-T." [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105599
[03:31] <asac> nice title :)
[03:32] <gnomefreak> tell him not to use keybindings and it wont crash :)
[03:32] <asac> yeah
[03:33] <asac> iceape going to be upgraded? are they good?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> just changelog fix
[03:36] <asac> good
[03:37] <gnomefreak> im gonna check when next release will be out for iceape but somehoe i think 1.1.1 will be the latest for a while
[03:38] <asac> why?
[03:38] <asac> they have security issues ... so update should come at some point
[03:38] <gnomefreak> maybe ill trample through debian iceape bugs to see what fixes they have
[03:38] <gnomefreak> ah ok 1.1.2
[03:39] <gnomefreak> would be next security?
[03:40] <asac> hmm is 1.1.1 really latest?
[03:40] <asac> i thought they should be at 1.1.4 now
[03:40] <gnomefreak> im still shaky on releasing this without downloadmanager we are gonna get hit hard with bugs on that
[03:40] <asac> e.g. like ffox 2.0.0.4
[03:40] <asac> ah 1.1.3
[03:40] <asac> aka 2.0.0.3
[03:40] <asac> without downloadmanager?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> ah so i should grab that tar and rebuild?
[03:41] <gnomefreak> yeah without the working download manager (thinking its download manager)
[03:41] <gnomefreak> install mamager doesnt sound right
[03:43] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[03:43] <gnomefreak> ok thats working now :)
[03:44] <gnomefreak> when i am done uploading i will look for 1.1.3 but isnt that 1.1.1-3 the same as 1.1.3
[03:44] <gnomefreak> 1.1.1-3 == debian version
[03:50] <gnomefreak> im thinking the -3 == security fix but might be thier updates
[03:57] <asac> its debian updates
[03:57] <asac> like what you count with mt now
[03:57] <asac> just that its the debian version
[03:57] <asac> 1.1.1 is upstream version
[03:57] <asac> so 1.1.3 is either not yet out
[03:57] <asac> or its not yet packaged
[03:58] <asac> if you see 1.1.2 or 1.1.3 feel free to update package
[03:58] <gnomefreak> have to figure that out
[04:05] <asac> 1.1.1 is apparently latest
[04:05] <asac> i will ask seamonkey developer if he shows up here in jabber
[04:14] <gnomefreak> k
[04:26] <gnomefreak> its uploaded and working :)
[05:02] <gnomefreak> ill brb just mucked up irssie
[05:02] <gnomefreak> -e
[07:27] <hjmf> launchpad sucks today. Takes longer submitting the retraced stacktrace than the time it takes to download the crash report and retracing it :(
[07:29] <hjmf> I had today a day plenty of spare time, so I decided to fill up your email clients with bug spam.
[07:32] <hjmf> seems that launchpad is not my ally today :-P
[07:40] <asac> thank you :)
[07:40] <asac> what happens if you send an email with attachment?
[07:45] <hjmf> asac: the attachment gets lost for ever (I tried some time ago)
[07:46] <hjmf> but launchpadBugs.HTMLOperations  python library is your friend
[07:47] <hjmf> though it doesn't handle status, assignee, importance, etc
[07:47] <hjmf> which does malone mail
[07:48] <hjmf> but handles tags, attachment, summary, etc
[07:48] <AlexLatchford> Gutsy Gibbon
[07:48] <AlexLatchford> interesting
[07:48] <hjmf> yep
[08:44] <gnomefreak> btw rc is delayed a few days or more
[09:34] <gnomefreak> asac: you around?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> i added the meeting time/date to fridge (when he gets time) and its on the agenda
[09:36] <gnomefreak> @schedule new_york
[09:36] <ubotu> Schedule for America/New_York: 12 Apr 16:00: MOTU | 13 Apr 16:00: Forum Council | 17 Apr 11:00: Kernel Team | 17 Apr 16:00: Community Council | 18 Apr 08:00: Edubuntu | 19 Apr 11:00: Development Team
[09:58] <atselby> Can anyone here help me with Beryl and Songbird?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> atselby: we dont support songbird afaik its not in repos and beryl help is in #ubuntu-effects
[10:08] <atselby> gnomefreak: I just figured I'd check since it's Mozilla based and all. Thanks I'll check with the Beryl channel that I'm on.
[10:53] <gnomefreak> ummmm asac please tell me your here i have weird error on LP with mozilla bug
[10:53] <gnomefreak> You are not the bug assignee nor the maintainer of mozilla-firefox-locale-fr (Ubuntu), and therefore cannot edit this bug's status.
[10:54] <gnomefreak> bug 33004
[10:54] <ubotu> Malone bug 33004 in mozilla-firefox-locale-fr "Weird shortcut" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/33004
[10:55] <gnomefreak> might need to be logged in :(
[11:21] <gnomefreak> bug 105474 needs to be marked as a dupe of the MTFS copying files bug where it turns out the file is empty. i searched but couldnt find one.
[11:21] <ubotu> Malone bug 105474 in firefox "Downloading files with firefox on an ntfs partition (ntfs 3g) results in empty files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105474
[11:48] <Admiral_Chicago> yay Gutsy Gibbon
[11:51] <AlexLatchford> :)
[11:54] <hjmf> good night lads :)
[11:54] <Admiral_Chicago> i still think we should have gone with glossy gnu