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superm1keescook, you there?04:53
superm1hey majoridiot04:53
superm1just updated the Feisty_new page for ya04:53
majoridiotty04:54
majoridiot:)04:54
majoridiotbouncing back and forth between things here04:55
keescooksuperm1: hiya! sup?05:17
majoridiotsuperm1: er, yeah... just a little better on the "what's new".  tyvm05:28
superm1hey keescook05:29
superm1i was gonna see if i could get you to get that old mythvideo debdiff in05:29
superm1but i just got Hobbsee to do ti05:30
superm1keescook, any more last minute thoughts on that bug about mythtv-setup not being runnable on ubuntu-mythtv-frontend05:34
superm1?05:34
superm1majoridiot, i'm getting those two screenshots done06:16
superm1finally06:16
majoridiot:)06:16
superm1k06:26
superm1they're there06:26
superm1anything mroe?06:26
majoridioti think that was it06:27
superm1ready to go live?06:28
superm1:)06:28
majoridiotyup.06:28
majoridiot:)06:28
superm1k06:28
superm1i'll change the front page06:28
superm1okay consider us live....06:29
superm1will need to update those ISO links06:29
majoridiotleave as is for now or update with links to beta?06:30
superm1hm06:34
superm1well maybe update the links to RC ISOs?06:35
majoridiotRC soon, right?06:35
superm1today06:37
majoridiottomorrow.06:37
superm1tomorrow06:37
majoridioter06:37
superm1yes06:37
majoridiotlol06:37
superm1thought it was past 1206:37
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majoridiotin a few minutes.06:37
superm1oh you know what i was going to say you should put in the whats new06:37
majoridiot>06:38
majoridiot?06:38
superm1you should mention your new firewire pages06:39
superm1and a little about the new plugin pages06:39
majoridiotfirewire page isn't really new, but i guess so06:39
majoridioti definitely want to fill in the plugin pages a bit more too06:40
superm1well you finished it the last few weeks did you not?06:40
majoridiotno06:40
majoridiotjust moved it from an edgy-specific page06:40
superm1didnt you reorganize it06:40
superm1back before my break?06:40
superm1i swear i thought you did06:40
majoridioteh... some.06:41
superm1or at least the last month or two06:41
majoridiotwill do a WOL page in the next few days, as i feel better06:41
superm1ah k06:41
superm1what are you doing sitting up by a comp when your sick dude06:41
superm1get in bed!06:42
majoridiotbeen up and down06:42
majoridiothead and sinuses fill with phlegmy goodness if i lay back too long06:42
majoridiotLOL06:42
superm1yuck06:42
majoridiotyeah... weird variant- stomach flu straight into a cold06:43
majoridiotbut that's how everyone sems to be getting it around here.06:43
superm1yup i know how it feels06:43
superm1i'm so sick of being sick06:43
majoridioti'll bet06:43
superm1okay majoridiot i'm gonna have to get going07:06
majoridiotnite07:06
superm1night dude07:06
superm1feel better07:06
majoridiotty07:06
superm1and very nice job on docs,07:06
majoridiotyou too07:06
majoridiotty07:06
superm1glad things are live now!07:06
majoridiotvery nice job on the packages!07:07
majoridiotagreed07:07
superm1Thx.07:07
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phlaxhi there - i have my dvb card working (tzap/dvbstream/mplayer), the tv_grab script seems to work and creates a .xmltv file, but when i try to scan for channels i get none, any ideas why?08:24
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phlaxhi - im trying to get mythtv going on edgy - many things do not seem to work as stated in the docs - mythtv-setup does not allow most of the important fields to be edited - no channels being found despite dvb working ok - any ideas?09:37
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superm1Daviey, hey06:21
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superm1keescook, ping08:14
keescooksuperm1: hiya08:20
superm1heya keescook .  i just caught something related to update-notifier08:21
superm1i noticed that our update-notifier wasn't working how it should08:21
keescookoh? what's the issue?08:21
superm1and its because an "exit 0" is coming three lines too soon08:21
keescookd'oh08:21
superm1but i fixed that, and things still aren't working right08:21
superm1/var/lib/update-notifier/dpkg-run-stamp needs to be touched for update-notifier to show notifications08:22
superm1but i can't find anywhere in the firefox/debian directory that is done08:22
superm1so i'm not sure the right way that its supposed to happen08:22
superm1i tried to ping asac about it, but i guess he isn't around08:22
keescookdang, I wish I could help; I don't know anything about that subsystem.  :(  Did you ask on #u-dev about it?08:23
superm1yea, no answers08:24
superm1keescook, i got it figured out.  its because gdebi and dpkg both don't call the necessary apt hook that synaptic, update-notifier, and apt-get call.  adding the fixed package to a repository resolved the issue09:16
keescooksuperm1: ah, very cool.  So if one uses "dpkg -i" it'll skip it, but "apt-get" does it?  wild.09:17
superm1right09:17
superm1i'll commit that fix to bzr, i just want to nail the mythtv-setup related problem still09:17
superm1and then get these two in a debdiff09:17
keescookI had no idea there was additional logic in apt-get.  I thought it was just a Dep resolver.09:17
superm1:)09:17
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superm1keescook, i got disconnected, did you see my above posts^09:53
superm1or did they not come in09:54
keescookI saw:09:54
keescook12:17 < keescook> I had no idea there was additional logic in apt-get.  I thought it was just a Dep resolver.09:54
keescook12:17 < superm1> :)09:54
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keescook12:53 < superm1> keescook, i got disconnected, did you see my above posts^09:54
superm1<superm1> keescook, hows this sound: in the startup script for ubuntu-mythtv-frontend, it checks for existance/executableness of mythtv-backend.  if it is there it checks for ~/.mythtv/backend_configured.  if thats not there, then we launch mythtv-setup.  if it is, we launch mythfrontend09:54
superm1<superm1> and the problem is then solved09:54
superm1is what you missed then09:54
keescookyeah, that should work for new installs.09:55
keescookit's not 100% solution (what if they run the script but don't save anything?)09:55
superm1well then the backend is "configured"09:55
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superm1because once mythtv-setup is launched, it writes data to the mysql server09:56
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keescookand after that, they can run it separately, etc.  yeah, that should be fine.09:56
superm1okay there are a few complexities around it with regard to them needing to fill the database and start stop the backend too09:57
superm1i'll get something together09:57
superm1and try it out in a vm09:57
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superm1okay majoridiot with these changes, basically that section gets simplified to two steps11:23
superm1sudo apt-get install mythtv-backend-master (or) sudo apt-get install mythtv-backend11:23
superm1followed by sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mythtv-frontend11:24
superm1on login, zenity comes up asking if you want to run mythtv setup11:24
superm1and if you say yes, it stops the backend for you11:24
superm1runs mythtv-setup11:24
superm1asks you if you want to fill the database11:24
superm1if so it does it for you11:24
superm1and then starts the backend and then runs mythfrontend11:24
majoridiot"on login" meaning after restarting gdm directly after the package is installed?11:33
majoridiotsuperm1: also, is this only concerning BE/FE installs?11:35
superm1oh missed your first response11:35
superm1meaning after estarting gdm11:35
superm1yes11:35
superm1this only concerns a be fe install11:35
superm1or an install that someone adds mythbackend later11:35
superm1to a fe only install11:36
superm1the update notifier stuff concerns only desktop installs though11:36
superm1keescook, will you be able to sponsor a debdiff on this tonite, or should i look in -motu?11:36
majoridiotk... then is it necessary to stop the backend?  it should *not* be running at that point on a BEFE install and would not need stopped if adding a FE to an existing BE... no?11:36
superm1in case for some reason it *is* started11:37
majoridiotah11:37
superm1it just sends a kill signal if the process is around11:37
majoridiotidiot insurance ;)11:37
superm1and removed the pid11:37
superm1yes11:37
keescooksuperm1: sure I can try to stuff it in, but if I'm not around, ask motu for sure.  :)11:55
superm1okay i have one more bug i am going to squeeze in11:55
superm1and then it will be good to go11:55
keescook:)11:55

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