=== jetsaredim [n=jgreenwa@inet-netcache3-o.oracle.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jetsaredim [n=jgreenwa@inet-netcache3-o.oracle.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === varka_ [n=varkatop@p54a5f842.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:53] keescook, you there? [04:53] hey majoridiot [04:53] just updated the Feisty_new page for ya [04:54] ty [04:54] :) [04:55] bouncing back and forth between things here [05:17] superm1: hiya! sup? [05:28] superm1: er, yeah... just a little better on the "what's new". tyvm [05:29] hey keescook [05:29] i was gonna see if i could get you to get that old mythvideo debdiff in [05:30] but i just got Hobbsee to do ti [05:34] keescook, any more last minute thoughts on that bug about mythtv-setup not being runnable on ubuntu-mythtv-frontend [05:34] ? [06:16] majoridiot, i'm getting those two screenshots done [06:16] finally [06:16] :) [06:26] k [06:26] they're there [06:26] anything mroe? [06:27] i think that was it [06:28] ready to go live? [06:28] :) [06:28] yup. [06:28] :) [06:28] k [06:28] i'll change the front page [06:29] okay consider us live.... [06:29] will need to update those ISO links [06:30] leave as is for now or update with links to beta? [06:34] hm [06:35] well maybe update the links to RC ISOs? [06:35] RC soon, right? [06:37] today [06:37] tomorrow. [06:37] tomorrow [06:37] er [06:37] yes [06:37] lol [06:37] thought it was past 12 === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-111-191-188.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:37] in a few minutes. [06:37] oh you know what i was going to say you should put in the whats new [06:38] > [06:38] ? [06:39] you should mention your new firewire pages [06:39] and a little about the new plugin pages [06:39] firewire page isn't really new, but i guess so [06:40] i definitely want to fill in the plugin pages a bit more too [06:40] well you finished it the last few weeks did you not? [06:40] no [06:40] just moved it from an edgy-specific page [06:40] didnt you reorganize it [06:40] back before my break? [06:40] i swear i thought you did [06:41] eh... some. [06:41] or at least the last month or two [06:41] will do a WOL page in the next few days, as i feel better [06:41] ah k [06:41] what are you doing sitting up by a comp when your sick dude [06:42] get in bed! [06:42] been up and down [06:42] head and sinuses fill with phlegmy goodness if i lay back too long [06:42] LOL [06:42] yuck [06:43] yeah... weird variant- stomach flu straight into a cold [06:43] but that's how everyone sems to be getting it around here. [06:43] yup i know how it feels [06:43] i'm so sick of being sick [06:43] i'll bet [07:06] okay majoridiot i'm gonna have to get going [07:06] nite [07:06] night dude [07:06] feel better [07:06] ty [07:06] and very nice job on docs, [07:06] you too [07:06] ty [07:06] glad things are live now! [07:07] very nice job on the packages! [07:07] agreed [07:07] Thx. === phlax [n=phlax@81.168.71.57] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-111-191-188.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:24] hi there - i have my dvb card working (tzap/dvbstream/mplayer), the tv_grab script seems to work and creates a .xmltv file, but when i try to scan for channels i get none, any ideas why? === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-111-191-188.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5f842.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:37] hi - im trying to get mythtv going on edgy - many things do not seem to work as stated in the docs - mythtv-setup does not allow most of the important fields to be edited - no channels being found despite dvb working ok - any ideas? === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-111-191-188.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-111-191-188.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark 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[n=gary@pool-71-111-191-188.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === bronson [n=bronson@66.237.74.66.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:14] keescook, ping [08:20] superm1: hiya [08:21] heya keescook . i just caught something related to update-notifier [08:21] i noticed that our update-notifier wasn't working how it should [08:21] oh? what's the issue? [08:21] and its because an "exit 0" is coming three lines too soon [08:21] d'oh [08:21] but i fixed that, and things still aren't working right [08:22] /var/lib/update-notifier/dpkg-run-stamp needs to be touched for update-notifier to show notifications [08:22] but i can't find anywhere in the firefox/debian directory that is done [08:22] so i'm not sure the right way that its supposed to happen [08:22] i tried to ping asac about it, but i guess he isn't around [08:23] dang, I wish I could help; I don't know anything about that subsystem. :( Did you ask on #u-dev about it? [08:24] yea, no answers [09:16] keescook, i got it figured out. its because gdebi and dpkg both don't call the necessary apt hook that synaptic, update-notifier, and apt-get call. adding the fixed package to a repository resolved the issue [09:17] superm1: ah, very cool. So if one uses "dpkg -i" it'll skip it, but "apt-get" does it? wild. [09:17] right [09:17] i'll commit that fix to bzr, i just want to nail the mythtv-setup related problem still [09:17] and then get these two in a debdiff [09:17] I had no idea there was additional logic in apt-get. I thought it was just a Dep resolver. [09:17] :) === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:53] keescook, i got disconnected, did you see my above posts^ [09:54] or did they not come in [09:54] I saw: [09:54] 12:17 < keescook> I had no idea there was additional logic in apt-get. I thought it was just a Dep resolver. [09:54] 12:17 < superm1> :) [09:54] 12:44 -!- superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] [09:54] 12:47 -!- superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:54] 12:53 < superm1> keescook, i got disconnected, did you see my above posts^ [09:54] keescook, hows this sound: in the startup script for ubuntu-mythtv-frontend, it checks for existance/executableness of mythtv-backend. if it is there it checks for ~/.mythtv/backend_configured. if thats not there, then we launch mythtv-setup. if it is, we launch mythfrontend [09:54] and the problem is then solved [09:54] is what you missed then [09:55] yeah, that should work for new installs. [09:55] it's not 100% solution (what if they run the script but don't save anything?) [09:55] well then the backend is "configured" === keescook nods [09:56] because once mythtv-setup is launched, it writes data to the mysql server === keescook nods [09:56] and after that, they can run it separately, etc. yeah, that should be fine. [09:57] okay there are a few complexities around it with regard to them needing to fill the database and start stop the backend too [09:57] i'll get something together [09:57] and try it out in a vm === illern [n=illern@c83-252-239-167.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === illern [n=illern@c83-252-239-167.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === majoridiot [n=majoridi@74-141-134-199.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === williammanda [n=william@c-68-53-216-97.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:23] okay majoridiot with these changes, basically that section gets simplified to two steps [11:23] sudo apt-get install mythtv-backend-master (or) sudo apt-get install mythtv-backend [11:24] followed by sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mythtv-frontend [11:24] on login, zenity comes up asking if you want to run mythtv setup [11:24] and if you say yes, it stops the backend for you [11:24] runs mythtv-setup [11:24] asks you if you want to fill the database [11:24] if so it does it for you [11:24] and then starts the backend and then runs mythfrontend [11:33] "on login" meaning after restarting gdm directly after the package is installed? [11:35] superm1: also, is this only concerning BE/FE installs? [11:35] oh missed your first response [11:35] meaning after estarting gdm [11:35] yes [11:35] this only concerns a be fe install [11:35] or an install that someone adds mythbackend later [11:36] to a fe only install [11:36] the update notifier stuff concerns only desktop installs though [11:36] keescook, will you be able to sponsor a debdiff on this tonite, or should i look in -motu? [11:36] k... then is it necessary to stop the backend? it should *not* be running at that point on a BEFE install and would not need stopped if adding a FE to an existing BE... no? [11:37] in case for some reason it *is* started [11:37] ah [11:37] it just sends a kill signal if the process is around [11:37] idiot insurance ;) [11:37] and removed the pid [11:37] yes [11:55] superm1: sure I can try to stuff it in, but if I'm not around, ask motu for sure. :) [11:55] okay i have one more bug i am going to squeeze in [11:55] and then it will be good to go [11:55] :)