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Ricky28269Does anyone know how I might be able to run Microsoft Office 2007 under Linux? I am really thinking about switching from Vista to Ubuntu, at least to try it, but I don't know if OpenOffice will be good enough... I love the new features of Office 2007, enough for it to be a reason why I would stay on Vista (and I don't want to dual boot, my hard drive is small enough as is, this is a laptop)12:01
mcgivrerwiseelben: simple FAT3212:01
vio!ttf12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ttf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
baddiecan anyone help me apply mactel patches to vanilla kernel?12:01
vio!tahoma12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tahoma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
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vioguys.. where can i download the tahoma.ttf font?12:01
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lockmistYay, I've got tinydns working. (It was a config issue, the first line got clipped off of the file while pasting. Happens to the best of us!)12:01
Ricky28269vio: i'll upload it for you12:01
mcgivrerwiseelben: nothing appened in a nautilus window12:01
vio:)12:01
lockmistThanks for the advice, Alumin.12:01
ChettersHello, I'm new to channel... Just saying Hi!12:02
mdmacan i force different screen resolution than screen resolution menu allow ?12:02
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vioRicky28269: That'll be great, thanks12:02
Madpilotvio, isn't that one of MS's fonts? It might be in the MS core fonts package12:02
DrNicki think it is12:02
mapezmdma yes you can12:02
vioits a m$ font yeah.. need it for wine12:02
DrNick(in ms core fonts)12:02
mdmamapez, how ?12:02
wiseelbenmcgivrer: try manually mounting it.12:02
mapezsudo gedit /etx/X11/xorg.conf12:02
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Ricky28269vio: http://www.sendspace.com/file/x07f7912:02
mapezmdma, let me open up my cfg and find where it is12:02
Chousukemsttcorefonts is the package name I think12:03
mdmakk12:03
vioRicky28269: thanks buddy :)12:03
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Ricky28269vio: I hope it works, I copied it from my currently-running Vista but I shouldn't think it would be incompatible...12:03
mdmamapez, frequency with the same file ?12:03
vio:S12:03
viohope not..12:03
mapezmdma, alright I have my config open.. ah shoot I have to eat.12:03
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viodoes any1 know?12:03
lockmist*waves*12:03
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Ricky28269vio: I would expect it to be the same thing anyway. Just letting you know, you can look for an XP "version" if it's any different12:03
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mapezmdma, you should be able to find it inside.12:03
mdmakk12:03
michuphi i try to install game in deb package and when i try to run it an error accure12:04
vioRicky28269: thanks, but it should work?12:04
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michupscorched3d: error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:04
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michuphow can i find do i have this library?12:04
Ricky28269vio: I don't see why it wouldn't, it's a .ttf file so I'm assuming it would be standard12:04
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mcgivreryes, i've tried. sdb1 would be my drive, but linux told me it doesnt exist ?!12:04
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csarvenwhast the difference between 6.10 and 6.06 LTS?12:05
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viooh. look here: Steam requires the tahoma.ttf font. It is NOT included in the Microsoft core fonts package,12:05
assasukassei get a problem: can't use libgl.so12:05
chili555michup id look in synaptic for openal12:05
assasukassei guess there is a symlink to be made12:05
vioit worked Ricky28269, thanks12:05
assasukassewhich one?12:05
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michupokay12:05
mweI resized two ntfs partitions using gparted. Now windows can't see the second partition even though it shows in gparted?12:05
mesconhey, im about to install Ubuntu 6.10 on an FS Primergy server... I'm not really familiar with the RAID (LSI Logic) controller or howto install the Ubuntu system directly on the RAID. Is there some "must read" guide out there? I've been googling, but came up empty12:06
wiseelbenmcgivrer:  you should try rebooting first, that usually takes care of it12:06
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mcgivrerwiseelben: i'll try12:07
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Lane_RendellI just installed Ubuntu 6.10 and when I boot I get   Failed to start X Server (WW) I810: No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:0) found (EE) No devices detected12:07
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brunoUTdoes anyone know why when i try installing from a dvd i get PERMISION DENIED?12:08
michupchili555: okay i dont have any of openal package installed12:08
michupwich one should i install?12:08
chili555michup id install libopenal0a and try ur game install again12:09
michupokay12:09
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brunoUTany ideas about my permission denided error when installing from a dvd?12:10
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michupive simillar problem with other application12:10
michuperror while loading shared libraries: libjack-0.100.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:10
[[AnGeL] ] hola12:10
[[AnGeL] ] .::[ke] ::. manga de perras12:10
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michupshould i search for libjack then?12:10
[[AnGeL] ] de kein este irc12:10
_Neilmichup: yes12:10
mdmacan someone help me with installing wine on 64bit system?12:10
_Neilor just jack even12:10
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forcerrargentino maricon12:11
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chili555michup same deal look for what it complains about and install it12:11
_Neilfool12:11
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_NeilDoes anyone know how to swap out the ubuntu logo on applications menu, to the default gnome foot?12:11
mdmacan someone help me with installing wine on 64bit system?12:11
michupi wonder why developers didnt provide this packages inside their installation?12:11
Lane_RendellI just installed Ubuntu 6.10 and when I boot I get   Failed to start X Server (WW) I810: No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:0) found (EE) No devices detected.12:12
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chili555michup they have no way to know what you have or dont, avoid duplication12:12
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fizzmahonim installing themes, and i type "./configure" and it does its thing, but on "make" i get "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop." any ideas?12:13
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francescoI don't find a linux driver for my printer Pixma MP450. Anyone can help me?12:13
_Neilmichup: If it was a .deb it would have auto detected12:13
mapezmdma how did it go?12:13
EADGubuntuforums.org down?12:13
michupbut they should for example write what should i install to get it work12:13
michupit was deb12:13
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mdmamapez,12:13
michupone i deb package12:13
_Neilmichup: Thats odd =D12:13
mdmafile was empty12:13
michupanother is run script12:13
_Neilguess it assumed you had it12:13
Jump86anyone here use easytag for mp3 files? I'm having a tag issue with a particular song played in rhythmbox.. in easytag the file name is "02 - Aphex Twin - Analogue Bubblebath 2" and the title is "Analogue Bubblebath 2" the artist is "Aphex Twin" and the album "Analogue Bubblebath II" --- HOWEVER, in rhythmbox it shows as up artist "Aphex Twin - 02" track name "Analogue Bubblebath II Track 2".. how can this be? I've tried everyt12:13
Jump86hing.. in beep player it detects fine, but Rhythmbox is being weird12:13
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Arrickhi all12:14
chili555michup what did you do to or with the deb?12:14
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SolitariusEADG, ubuntuforums.org work for me.12:14
TaZCorphello guys!12:14
francoishi, my kwallet never remembers any of my passwords, any ideas ?12:14
brunoUTany ideas about my permission denided error when installing from a dvd?12:14
EADGSolitarius: K.12:14
CheesyJedihey guys12:14
mapezOkay, we can do it from terminal then.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg that will let you pick all your xorg configuration stuff as you go along mouse etc its pretty self explanatory and you can select your resolution12:14
mdmamapez, file was empty12:14
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michupuse package installer12:14
Lillenhum, I need a tux-sticker.12:15
ArrickI have a partition on /dev/hda4 that I want to mount to /samba.... I have this line in fstab minus the "" please tell me why its not mounting on boot?  "/dev/hda4       /samba/share            ext3    defaults        0       2"12:15
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michupgdebi 0.1.612:15
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CheesyJediI was messing around with the ubuntu dekbar12:15
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TaZCorpwow12:15
CheesyJediand I inputed a binch of hotkeys12:15
CheesyJedi*bunch12:15
TaZCorpso forums exists for?12:15
CheesyJedihow do I get rid of them?12:15
Jump86anyone want to chime in on my little mp3 tag problem?12:15
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chili555michup it shoulds picked up all the dependencies12:16
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Jump86i know its weird but its been bothering me for days12:16
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deftonesgirli can't seem to get my swap partition to "swapon" at startup12:16
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Arrickdeftonesgirl, lol, I cant get my main share parition to mount, on boot.12:16
michupill give you a link its a cool game12:16
chili555ok12:17
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deftonesgirlall my hda's work, but my swap partition will not load at startup12:17
zilly6_how do i remove a package forcibly?12:17
brentI have to set acpi=off in grub for my machine to boot. however, when the kernel is updated, my menu.lst gets replaced by the package's default, thus erasing the "acpi=off".  Is there any way for Ubuntu to retain the "acpi=off" parameter even when the kernel is updated so that I don't have to hand-edit menu.lst everytime?12:17
niallhi all12:18
morpheus74Hi.  Can someone who's used both Ubuntu and Xubuntu tell me if there is a huge performance difference?12:18
sethkzilly6_, dpkg has options to orce12:18
sethkmorpheus74, biggest difference is how long the system takes to start up12:18
SuperQbrent: you need to update the kopt= line12:18
mapezmdma you get that?12:18
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sethkmorpheus74, once it's running, if you have enough memory, the difference is small, but not zero12:18
SuperQbrent: I have the same issue with some machines12:18
mdmamapez, it's too hard12:18
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Gruggohum, I need a tux-sticker.12:18
zilly6_sethk, i'm trying to remove mzscheme/drscheme but dpkg returns an error while using apt-get12:18
morpheus74sethk, Have you used Xubuntu fiesty beta?12:18
michuphttp://www.scorched3d.co.uk/12:19
mdmamapez, there are tones of configurations besides stuff  ineed12:19
TaZCorpgood afternoon guys, well... ill be looking now for 2 weeks for controlers , drivers to get my lexmark x5450 working on my faboulus Ubuntu edgy, any of you guys haz idea where i can get it.   i know CUPS should have it but they dont :(12:19
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sethkmorpheus74, not yet, no.  I've been using wmaker recently, which I consider a real sleeper and an excellent option.12:19
brentSuperQ: how do I do that?  I'm an experienced Linux user, so you can just point me in the right direction if you don't have the patience/time12:19
Akuma_which one should i go for, nvidia or ATI ? which one is best supported on linux/ubuntu?12:19
sethkmorpheus74, it has close to the features of KDE is it's seriously faster12:19
Alumin_dwezel_: they don't call it anything...as far as I know, the feature doesn't exist12:19
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Aluminthat's what I'd call it if I wrote it :)12:19
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RAW-mEATAkuma_ use nvidia12:19
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brentSuperQ: update kopt=line, that is.  I've never heard of it.12:19
SuperQbrent: just add the acpi=off to the line # kopt= in /boot/grub/menu.list12:19
sethkzilly6_, what's the exact error.12:19
morpheus74sethk, Thank you.12:19
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SuperQbrent: and then run update-grub12:19
brentSuperQ: thanks!  that's exactly what I needed!12:20
deftonesgirlDoes anyone have any idea how I can get the linux-swap to load at boot-up?12:20
SuperQbrent: yea, no problem12:20
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mapezmdma, sorry I couldn't help but alot of times its just.. getting dirty and hope you configure stuff right.. I have to run to work though, sorry and goodbye12:20
Akuma_RAW-mEAT: how is it better? driver support?12:20
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bruenigdeftonesgirl, put it in /etc/fstab12:20
AMTXPhi12:20
RAW-mEATnvidias driver support is better.12:20
SuperQbrent: one funnything is, there is also the "defoptions=quiet splash" line12:20
sethkdeftonesgirl, you mean swap space?12:20
mdmamapez, no worries thanks for affort anyway12:20
AMTXPholy crap a lot of people12:20
chili555michup all i got , or am getting, is a big ole deb12:20
zilly6_sethk dpkg: error processing mzscheme (--remove):12:20
zilly6_ subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 112:20
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TaZCorpsorry12:21
bruenigzilly6_, sudo dpkg --force-all -r mzscheme12:21
TaZCorp:D12:21
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deftonesgirlyea, ok then how do I add it correctly to fstab... what lines do i add12:21
chili555michup will install and let you know12:21
zilly6_thanks bruenig12:21
SuperQbrendon: you can't remove both options, update-grub will put it back.. but you can replace "quiet splash" with a non-existant keyword like "nosplash" it will work12:21
bruenigdeftonesgirl, what is the name of the drive /dev/what12:21
michup60mb deb package correct12:21
SuperQerk.. that was supposed to be for brent12:21
deftonesgirlhda712:21
niallcan anyone suggest a better driver then the "vesa" of athlon 64 machines for 6.10 edgy12:21
nialland how to install it12:21
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sethkzilly6_, we need to get the details.  let me see if I can remember where to find them.12:21
sizzamniall: what kind of video card do you have?12:21
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sethkzilly6_, by details I mean the error in the pre-removal script12:22
TaZCorpversion 6.10 is dapper aight ?12:22
bruenigdeftonesgirl, add /dev/hda7 none swap sw 0 012:22
fizzmahonguys im trying to install somethign but it wont let me "make" it i get error "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."12:22
sethkzilly6_, you don't get any other info, possibly just before the message from dpkg?12:22
sizzamfizzmahon: what app are you trying to install12:22
TaZCorpfizzmahon, u should do ./configure first12:22
deftonesgirlwill do. then just restart?12:22
niallATI 9800 pro12:22
jcacereshello, i need to aply a patch to some code, i have tried to use diff -u but the result is not what i needed12:22
zilly6_sethk Removing mzscheme ...12:22
zilly6_Stopping web server: mzserver ... start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/lib/plt/bin/mzscheme: No such file or directory (No such file or directory)12:22
zilly6_failed12:22
zilly6_invoke-rc.d: initscript mzscheme, action "stop" failed.12:22
zilly6_dpkg: error processing mzscheme (--remove):12:22
bruenigdeftonesgirl, then do sudo mount -a12:22
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jcaceresany idea of how can i solve that12:22
fizzmahonTaZCorp, done ./configure and sizzam, ksmoothdock12:23
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sethkzilly6_, ok.  it looks like a previous remove operation stopped in the middle.12:23
zilly6_it was the install that choked12:23
niallsizzam: its a 9800 pro Ati12:23
PORDOhow can i get my cpu temp?12:23
sethkzilly6_, then try the --reinstall flag on the install command12:23
PORDOi just got a fan-slower-down thing.12:23
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rambo3!lm-sensor12:24
jcacereshello, i need to aply a patch to some code, i have tried to use diff -u but the result is not what i needed12:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lm-sensor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:24
rambo3!info lm-sensor12:24
ubotuPackage lm-sensor does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas12:24
TaZCorpso sizzam means that it works?12:24
TaZCorp:D12:24
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rambo3PORDO, cat /proc/acpi/ something something12:25
sethkzilly6_, there are other flags to force various things, but --reinstall is simple and often works in this sort of situation.12:25
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chili555michup works fine for me: sudo dpkg -i Scorched...12:25
soulburnerhello all12:25
AMTXPi have a question, about installing ubuntu: I've been running 32 bit ubuntu on my older dell machine - and it works great. I've been wanting to make the switch to Linux on this machine (newer- custom built). I've been trying to install 64-bit verisons of linux distros, but they never seem work (except for Fedora text-based). I can install 32-bit versions fine, but 64-bit doesn't display anything correct on my monitor (image is ske12:25
sizzamniall: have you seen this forum post yet?  it may help:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=42358412:25
chili555michup scorched3d12:25
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chili555michup no errors12:25
niallsizzam: thanks I'll take a look12:26
chili555michup it looks very cool12:26
michupi wonder why is that?12:26
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rambo3PORDO,  cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature12:26
sizzamTaZCorp: sorry, can't help on that one, i just wanted to make sure the app wasn't already available in the repo's12:26
michupi just use the same deb package as you12:26
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niallsizzam: I'm using "vesa" now and my gfx are laggy and dragging around the screen.12:26
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zilly6_sethk the --reinstall was a no go12:27
mikeconceptsIn Feisty I noticed after an update a few days ago, the wired connection icon in the upper right panel shows disconnected, even though I am really connected, and cycling thru disconnect and reconnect corrects the icon12:27
bruenigzilly6_, it looks to me like the prerm script is trying to stop the daemon, and since it is failing, is causing the removal to fail, doing: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/mzscheme && sudo apt-get remove mzscheme should works since those prerm scripts always test to see if it is executable before running12:27
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TaZCorpoh sorry, i tought "sizzam" was an expression12:27
chili555michup i probably have a few things installed you dont like openal and jack12:27
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sizzamniall: vesa doesn't give you any of the 3d capabilities for the card.  installing the ATI drivers should give you a better experience12:27
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TaZCorpyep12:27
michupid installed openal12:27
AMTXPanyone?12:28
michupnow it ask about...12:28
zilly6_thanks bruenig sethk that seemed to work12:28
AMTXPok let me narrow down my question then12:28
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michup error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk-2.4.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:28
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niallsizzam: well you've been great I'll check back and let you know how it goes12:28
zilly6_anyone have any bittorrent client recommendations?12:28
michupos i just simple try to install everything it asked12:28
sizzamniall: good luck :-)12:28
zilly6_(i'm running gnome)12:28
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AMTXPzilly: uTorrent12:28
TaZCorpsizzam,  can u help me out?12:28
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chili555michup synaptic is yer friend12:29
Znuffutorrent is a WINDOWS client12:29
AMTXPoh, i could have sworn12:29
AMTXPok well anyways12:29
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bruenigZnuff, wine...12:29
Znuffwine + torrent client = slow speed12:29
michupanother cool one if you wish12:29
bruenigZnuff, slow in what way? not DL12:29
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michuphttp://armagetron.sourceforge.net/12:29
nitro_reee12:29
NiTrOo.o12:29
exsdoes anyone know a really easy audio cd ripper for windows?12:30
zilly6_cdex12:30
Znuffwith WINE I don't get 8.4 MB/sec....12:30
zilly6_exs cdex12:30
AMTXPOk, I'm trying to install 64-bit Ubuntu 6.10 - but the image is always screwed up. I have nVidia GeForce 7800GT12:30
Madpilotexs, install Ubuntu, use soundjuicer :)12:30
bruenigZnuff, I get the same speeds I get with any other client12:30
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vio!mount12:30
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter12:30
michupyou know, snake but coolest12:30
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vio!DiskMounter12:30
bruenigZnuff, perhaps the swarms you are on aren't pumping out 8.4MB/sec for you to be DLing12:30
blahmanhere is my problem with installing ubuntu, here is the link:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3GD0JxsFA12:30
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse12:30
zilly6_madpilot, i had a lot of problems with soundjuicer +AAC12:30
jimmygoonjesus christ, Is there a way of removing the crap names gcj without it removing eclipse?12:30
Znuffbruenig, trust me, there are12:30
PORDOAAC?!12:30
zilly6_the faac library was crashing left and right12:30
blahmanhere is my problem with installing ubuntu, here is the link:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3GD0JxsFA12:30
Znuffbut the disk/cpu/ram etc. can't keep up with that speed under wine12:31
zilly6_PORDO what's wrong with AAC?12:31
bruenigZnuff, well works great here, you probably have configured poorly12:31
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Znuffbruenig, what's your maximum download speed?12:31
vioomg, what is the command to mount example: Mount /home/User_name/Desktop/tda.cue /media/cdrom3 ?12:31
RicketCan someone please tell me what the bar thing is, at the top of the window at about 3:30 in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ12:31
zilly6_vio you have it backwards12:31
RicketIt looks like a really awesome shortcut bar program that I kinda want12:31
zilly6_wait, sorry12:31
viozilly6_:  how does it go?12:31
blahmanhere is my problem with installing ubuntu, here is the link:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3GD0JxsFA12:31
zilly6_i didn't relize you had a cue file12:31
vioits actually a *bin file12:32
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AMTXPok well12:32
vioshouldn't that command work?12:32
TaZCorpsizzam, tow weeks ago i bought a lexamark x5450, since then ill be looking for the controlers to make the printer or scanner work, but i havent found them :( i asked on several forums, even sent an email to lexamark asking for help, i looked into CUPS, SANE, and linux printers web pages. none of them has the right controlers :( so u or any of ur friends haz idea how to make my lexmark x5450 work ?12:32
AMTXPi can't figure out what the heck people are talking about, too many users -- anyone I can privately chat with that could help me with my Ubuntu installation problem(s)12:33
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bruenig!prefix | AMTXP12:33
ubotuAMTXP: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages12:33
jimmygoonRephrased: how can I install eclipse without gcj crap?12:33
zilly6_vio http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/2699 maybe this might help12:33
viozilly6_:  thank you :)12:33
sethkTaZCorp, I can probably help with printing.  Not sure about scanning.12:33
zilly6_any other torrent client recommendations?12:33
TaZCorpany help , thnks12:33
TaZCorp:D12:34
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bruenigzilly6_, all pretty much goes downhill from utorrent with azureus at the bottom of the pile12:34
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robokopzilly6_: opera browser has build in support for torrents12:34
TaZCorp:D :D :D12:34
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AMTXP:(12:34
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viozilly6_:  dc_gui212:35
RicketCan someone please watch this video and identify the bar thing at the top of the window around 3:30? I want to know what program that is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ12:35
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zilly6_so utorrent+wine is the best? this is a crazy world we're living in12:35
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bruenigRicket, kiba-dock12:35
Ricketbruenig, thanks12:35
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EnverexI seem to be suffering from generally slow hard-drive speed, can anyone suggest anything?12:35
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bruenigzilly6_, they are said to be contemplating a port, hopefully12:35
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ZnuffRicket, if you find out, let me know :)12:36
RicketZnuff: bruenig said it was "kiba-dock"12:36
sizzamTaZCorp: i can't find anyone that has had any luck with the lexmark x545012:36
zilly6_bruenig, why isn't the source free?12:36
innoooEnverex, man hdparm12:36
Znuffuh. let's see12:36
sizzamTaZCorp: this is the only article i could find:  http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/4118712:36
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sizzamTaZCorp: its in spanish, but the only feedback in there is 'buy an HP' ;-)12:36
pengulordhello12:36
brunoUTcan someone help me install from a dvd....im getting an PERMISSION DENIED error when trying to install??12:36
zilly6_bruenig, but you recommend uT on wine?12:37
bruenigzilly6_, yeah, works great12:37
Enverexinnooo, I've read it lots, but it makes little sense when you don't know what half the things do (even with the vague descriptions)12:37
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pengulordwhat is the cheapest notebook i should buy for decent performance12:37
jimmygoonIs there really no way of getting eclipse with gcj? thats a dang shame12:37
AMTXP!prefix12:37
ubotuIf you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages12:37
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bruenigzilly6_, it depends on what you are really looking for, if you want fully featured rss goodness with low overhead then utorrent through wine, if you want some simple thing to download a torrent every once in a while, just use some small native thing like bittornado12:37
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sc0tchWill feisty Fawn be a Long Term Support Release?12:37
chable!ati12:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:37
bruenigsc0tch, no12:37
TaZCorpit was me the one who post that :(12:38
TaZCorphehehe12:38
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sizzamsc0tch: last i heard, the next LTS release may be 2 releases after Feisty, but don't quote me on that12:38
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TatsterHi.  Is it possible to share photo albums in Picasa on Ubuntu to be used by iPhoto on my mac?  The picasa files are stored on a samba server that I can access from the Mac?12:38
billysc0tch: from what I hear, 7,10 will be the next LTS.12:38
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asdasdaanyone willing to lend me a little support on installing ubantu desktop12:38
brunoUTbruenig....can u help me install from a dvd?12:38
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brunoUTim currently getting permission denied12:38
billyasdasda: sure, what's up?12:38
bruenigasdasda, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:38
AMTXPbruenig, could you help me with some installation problems I am having with 64-bit Ubuntu12:38
asdasdak12:39
bruenigbrunoUT, no, I don't know matlab12:39
barcodeanyone here running ubuntu on a macbook?12:39
enycAMTXP: erm.. Im trying to write to you directly to discuss but im not seeing a response12:39
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bruenigAMTXP, what specifically12:39
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TaZCorpoh sizzam  so you are also telling me that i should buy another printer :(12:39
brunoUTthe install is the same for everything12:39
docMuertohi12:39
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brunoUTi just need proper commands12:39
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AMTXPbruenig, installation12:39
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enycAMTXP: either you are not seeing that window/display or you are not replying or you are not registered with nickserv12:39
sizzamTaZCorp: nope, i'm just telling you i don't know how to fix the problem :-(12:39
bruenigAMTXP, oh for ubuntu itself12:39
AMTXPyes12:39
bruenigAMTXP, what is the problem12:39
TaZCorpthank you anyway for your help sizzam :D12:40
AMTXPenyc, i'm using Trillian on windows rightn now12:40
barcodeanyone used any of the mactel patches?12:40
sizzamno problem TaZCorp, good luck12:40
asdasdawhen i installed ubantu from cd I noticed for one the loading bar doesent move.., glitch i figured, but then it moves to a dos type area and nothing happends i can type but no cmd's work12:40
TaZCorpand sethk ? where are you?12:40
viodoes any1 know how to mount a *bin file or a *cue file?12:40
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bruenigAMTXP, just to preface, I recommend 32 bit to prevent headaches in the future, but if you wish12:40
sizzamTaZCorp: i would recommend putting a post in ubuntuforums.org about that one, i don't see any results in the forums when i search for that printer model12:40
bruenig!iso | vio convert it to iso12:40
ubotuvio convert it to iso: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.12:40
enycAMTXP: right.. can you see extra window r.e. me?12:40
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TaZCorpokai sizzam, thats my next step12:41
viobruenig: thanks i'll try that12:41
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barcodedoes anyone know how to fix an error "patches will not apply cleanly" when compiling your own kernel?12:41
sethkTaZCorp, you mean where am I geographically, or why didn't I answer?12:41
TaZCorpwhy u didnt answer :D12:41
Cara_WCAM_MSNhi folks........ i wanted to install ubuntu, but I don't want stuff like Evolution, Thunderbird, GAIM, etc installed with the system. Does downloading the SERVER ISO and later issuing "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" produce the SAME exact effect as to install a completely working functional desktop like "kubuntu"?12:41
AMTXPbruenig, well for starters with the Live CD (for both 32-bit and 64-bit) messes up my mbr - and I spent a lot of money on this proccesor and I really would like to use it's 64-bit capabilities12:41
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bruenigAMTXP, there is very little upside on the desktop, and there are a lot of drawbacks, such as no flash or java12:42
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AMTXPbruenig, ok12:42
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AMTXPbruenig, i'll hold off on that then12:42
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sethkAMTXP, I doubt the problem with your MBR is really caused by your processor12:42
nixnoobhow can I make it so that I can run a program from command line?12:42
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AMTXPsethk, i know12:42
sethkAMTXP, ok.  do you want to try and fix it?12:43
nikinCara: kubuntu-desktop installs kind of 1,2 Gigs of packages inclusing gaim, and such12:43
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bruenignixnoob, you mean so that when you run the program it opens in the command line or something else12:43
foughow can i rename my drives in linux?12:43
michupi installed libwxbase.2.4-1 and reinstall this game12:43
TaZCorpsethk, i meant, why u didnt answer12:43
AMTXPbruenig, ok so using 32-bit Ubuntu 6.10 then12:43
michupbut still error accoure12:43
nixnoobbruenig, no current i have to cd to the dir which contains the file and then ./ it, I want to open a terminal and type "program" to run it.12:44
Cara_WCAM_MSNnikin: oh I see, everything is integrated and is set up to have another package here and there12:44
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michupscorched3d: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk-2.4.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No scorched3d: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk-2.4.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:44
michupsuch file or directory12:44
Chai_Sangeenhello everyone12:44
AMTXPenyc, your window isn't showing up on Trillian, do you have aim or something else12:44
bruenigAMDXP, yeah, recognize also that ubuntu 7.04 comes out in 8 days, so that will be a short lived install12:44
sethkTaZCorp, I'm doing paid support also; have to answer them first when they show up.  :)12:44
billy!hi | Chai_Sangeen12:44
ubotuChai_Sangeen: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!12:44
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enycAMTXP: hrrm you may well want to try with feisty when its' released in <2 weeks12:44
TaZCorpoOoOOoO i see...12:44
vio!bin2iso12:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bin2iso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:44
EADGWhat is the file I need to edit to NOT startx at boot?12:44
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enycAMTXP: I am on telnet talkers ;-)12:44
bruenignixnoob, oh, just put it in the path12:45
sethkbruenig, not usually advisable to install a distro release on the day it is released.  Nor on the week, or even month.12:45
bruenignixnoob, what is this thing you have to type12:45
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TaZCorpill wait for your help :)12:45
nikinCara but you can install kde412:45
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enycAMTXP: telnet to bandicoot.merseine.nu port 9390  or something ;-)12:45
bruenigsethk, come on12:45
AMTXPbruenig, you can call me amt or andy or andrew. I will definately be using fiesty though - I might use the beta12:45
Znuffanyone knows if you can get Kiba-Dock to act like the mac-osx dock?12:45
Znufflike a systray?12:45
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nikinit needs some playing, and tweeking :D but it is doable12:45
nixnoobbruenig im lazy, cd D* cd Peer* ./Peer.pl12:45
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sethkbruenig, come on, what?  I install a new distro release on a test system only.  That has paid off exponentially, especially with the most recent ubuntu release.12:45
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bruenignixnoob, but are there other things in the directory that it uses to run?12:45
asdasdaquestion, after installing ubantu desktop it stay's at a cmd prompt and no com's work anyone else have this problem before?12:45
jonah8204i haven't been able to get my ene internal card reader to work, i've googled and found a bunch of forum posts with people in the same situation. anything i should try or is it hopless?12:45
chable!ati12:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:45
Cara_WCAM_MSNnikin: is it possible to have GNOME desktop without evolution and the other clutter?12:46
enycAMTXP: there should be a release-candidate feisty any moment now... would avoud beta version mysely12:46
nixnoobbruenig yes probably12:46
bruenigsethk, well you do serious work on your machines though right12:46
Znuffnikin, it is?12:46
chablehmm12:46
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sethkbruenig, right.  I install the new release on a non-critical machine or two.12:46
AMTXPbruenig, ok but generally with installing Ubuntu - it cannot detect my  IDE hard drive. With windows xp pro, I have to use a floppy with drivers that came with the motherboard. Strangely enough, though, Fedora core does detect my hd12:46
nikinCara_WCAM_MSN,  i ame sure it is...  just it will be not easy12:46
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bruenignixnoob, ok I would symlink it then with "sudo ln -s /home/$USER/Desktop/Peer/Peer.pl /usr/local/bin/peer"12:47
TaZCorpZnuff,  go to , system, preferences, sesions12:47
nikinZnuff, i ame sure....12:47
TaZCorpham12:47
viobruenig: how can i execute bin2iso? or what is the command to convert my file tda.bin to tda.iso?12:47
ZnuffTaZCorp, yes?12:47
enycAMTXP: sounds like a special chipset/controller12:47
MrMakevelihey guys whats happenin?12:47
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nixnoobbruenig I want to have your babies.12:47
bruenigvio, you have to compile it, it tells you how to compile it, using gcc12:47
viobruenig: i've done that12:47
enycAMTXP: sounds like it is not a common PATA controller... some kind of extra promise (or whatever) chip...12:47
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bruenigvio, well use ./bin2iso nameoffile.bin12:48
sethkAMTXP, what ency said sounds likely to me.12:48
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viobruenig: thanks ;)12:48
enycAMTXP: you may well find feisty w/ 2.6.20 kernel has the necessary driver... or not..12:48
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AMTXPbruenig, well its not specialized just for this ASUS motherboard12:48
nixnoobvio you have to specify an output file as well12:48
MrMakevelidoes anyone have any suggestions for a partition scheme and/or suggested filesystems for those partitions?12:48
AMTXPbruenig, i've seen it on other's as well12:48
Znuffgotta go, bye12:48
rorahh, nice being back on x86; at work I use amd64 and I cba to get flash working in it12:48
nixnoob./bin2iso nameoffile.bin nameofis.iso12:48
TaZCorpOoO12:48
bruenigAMTXP, yeah don't know much about that12:48
vionixnoob: thanks buddy :)12:48
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AMTXPbruenig, i'm trying to remember the name of hte drivers now....they have a linux release but i never found out how to make a driver disk12:49
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AMTXPwhen the RC comes out, i'll try it12:49
sethkMrMakeveli, I strongly advise you to use only one partition.  Another for swap, if you need swap.12:49
asdasdawhats better to have as an alt Os to Xp? Ubantu, Kubantu, or Xubuntu?12:49
foughow can i rename my drives in linux?12:49
sethkMrMakeveli, the supposed advantages to complicate partitions are illusory12:49
nikinCara_WCAM_MSN, but better dont use the server ISO .. if you want a desktop system.. the CD has a menu to install a console only system.. but so you get a desktop kernel12:49
AMTXPbruenig, ok and the other problem is - probably related to it not finding the hd, is that the LiveCD messes up my mbr12:49
sethkfoug, they aren't named, so you can't rename them.  Be more specific about what you need to do.12:50
Jump86im playing an mp3 in rhythmbox but its not using the tag info from Easytag.. is it possible that this file has two types of tags on it and rhythmbox is using one while easytag updates the other12:50
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michupdo i have to reboot my computer after installed libwx_gtk to take effect?12:50
AMTXPbruenig, and i have to reformat with windows xp to get it working again12:50
fougsethk: well i right click on my external hard drive and Rename is greyed out12:50
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enycAMTXP: Im just looking for RC now... its due 2007/04/12 apparently12:51
sethkfoug, you have to be root.  But be careful, that's not a simple name.  it exists in automounting configuration, not just in the /dev directory.12:51
nixnoobbruenig it began to run and came back with an error12:51
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fougsethk: yea i'm a big noob still so i'll work wit it later hehe12:51
sethkfoug, good plan.  :)12:51
bruenignixnoob, how are you running it12:51
cab10886#ati12:51
AMTXPbruenig, ite8211 is the name of the motherboard driver....is there someplace i can search to see if Ubuntu 7.x supports it?12:51
cab10886dang12:51
MrMakevelisethk: im thinking for backup purposes it might be helpful to have a seperate partition for ~/12:51
asdasda  whats better to have as an alt Os to Xp? Ubantu, Kubantu, or Xubuntu?12:52
bruenigAMTXP, don't know12:52
vionixnoob: i get this error: bash: bin2iso: command not found12:52
MrMakevelisethk: so that if there is some kind of corruption, my home folder will be left intact12:52
nixnoobtype "peer" in console. after doing sudo ln -s /home/$USER/Desktop/Peer/Peer.pl /usr/local/bin/peer12:52
bruenigvio, you have to be in the same directory as the program and do ./bin2iso12:52
bruenignixnoob, and what does it say12:52
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MrMakevelisethk: thats why im wondering if it might help to have it for other ones as well12:52
sethkMrMakeveli, there's some sense to that, but backup to a different physical device is necessary.12:52
dreginRunning edgy on a Dell D400 laptop. There is no splash screen on boot or shutdown. Only a blinking "_" cursor. This has been the case since a clean install. Any ideas what might be up?12:52
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Chai_Sangeenhello billy :)12:53
viobruenig: i am.. the file doesn't have an extension like bin2iso.x or what ever doesn't have any *...12:53
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billywatup Chai_Sangeen12:53
MrMakeveliseth: it has to be a seperate device completely? i thought it was still beneficial even if it was still on the same hd12:53
nixnoobcan't locate ToolBar.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl ..................12:53
sethkMrMakeveli, I don't believe that it's necessary.  It used to be common because of restrictions on the maximum size of things (like file systems), but that's no longer an issue.12:53
asdasdahey i have the same problem on my Dell laptop12:53
bruenignixnoob, hmm12:53
sethkMrMakeveli, I'm not saying it's not at all beneficial12:53
Chai_Sangeenbilly, nothing much just hanging around....12:53
fougsethk: do you know why my taskbar won't stay unexpanded? i have Expand unchecked but it won't listen12:53
fougsethk: sometime's it's small but most of the time it's always expanded12:53
sethkMrMakeveli, I'm saying that you really need to back up to another device, anyway, so it doesn't buy you much if you are properly backing up.12:53
enycAMTXP: hrrm i remember that.. ite controller... had this before...12:53
sethkfoug, in gnome?  kde?12:54
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viobruenig: i just compied the complied file to the folder i wanted to covert12:54
fougsethk: gnome12:54
billyChai_Sangeen: come on over to #ubuntu-offtopic.  It's a rockin good time.  :|12:54
nixnoobbruenig I think I know why, its probably dependencies on those files in the folder along with peer.pl and it doesnt kno where to look.12:54
bruenignixnoob, you could try creating a small script that will launch it and then put that in the place of /usr/local/bin/peer12:54
enycAMTXP: erm... I would test with the livecd ;-)12:54
viobruenig: copyied12:54
sethkfoug, can't help with gnome, sorry, I run kde and wmaker12:54
nixnoobbruenig that might be the answer12:54
fougsethk: darn, with KDE can i have my taskbar unexpanded like gnome? and freely click and drag all panels around?12:54
viobruenig: i copyed bin2iso to the folder i wanted to covert the file like ~/Desktop/tda/12:54
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AMTXPenyc, found a wiki entry on gentoo-wiki "in kernels > 2.6.19 there is a new driver available. For the newer kernel you need"12:55
sethkfoug, yes.  but I'm not saying gnome has a problem with the task bar, I'm saying I don't know enough about gnome to help you with the task bar problem.12:55
asdasdaguys, can anyone pls tell me the main difference between ubantu, kubantu, and xubuntu12:55
bruenigvio, and then what command did you use12:55
Jump86im playing an mp3 in rhythmbox but its not using the tag info from Easytag.. is it possible that this file has two types of tags on it and rhythmbox is using one while easytag updates the other12:55
MrMakevelisethk: if i had some kind of file corruption where my drive was starting to act funny, if i had a seperate partition for my home folder it would be safe right? so long as the problem wasnt coming from there?12:55
fougsethk: o i know, just wondering if i should maybe switch to KDE12:55
AMTXPbruenig, what kernal did you say fiesty has?12:55
Lunar_LampI've used setkeycodes to add a keycode for a previously uncrecognised key - however xev doesn't pick it up.  What should I do?12:55
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bruenig!feisty | AMTXP12:56
ubotuAMTXP: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)12:56
sethkMrMakeveli, frequently, yes, but not 100% of the time.12:56
odatanyone here able to make a patch for a module?12:56
MrMakevelihmm12:56
brian_asdasda: they use different window managers ubuntu=gnome kubuntu=kde xubuntu=xfe12:56
sethkMrMakeveli, could have a hardware problem, which might corrupt the other one as well.12:56
viobruenig: only this:    bin2iso tda.bin tda.iso12:56
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MrMakevelisethk: i see12:56
bruenigvio, ./bin2iso12:56
chemisuswhat package should you search for if you want to play mp3s?12:56
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viook..12:56
HeywoodCan anyone tell me how to fix this message, "Package linux-headers has no installation candidate"12:56
sethkMrMakeveli, drives do go bad, eventually, and sometimes there's a bad batch and they go bad sooner than eventually.12:56
bruenig!mp3 | chemisus12:56
ubotuchemisus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:56
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viobruenig:  you have magic hands *12:57
mayAlgum fala portugus?12:57
bruenigHeywood, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:57
AMTXPbruenig, i know but someone told me what bersion of the kernal fiesty is released with12:57
MrMakevelisethk: i have two hds, a smaller 80gb and a larger 160gb. if i where to use the 160gb for my normal root, and then use the 80gb for the home, would there be a dramatic diffference in seek time because they are seperate drives?12:57
viobruenig: thanks for the help :)12:57
bruenigAMTXP, 2.6.20, go to #ubuntu+1 for feisty12:57
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shadowhywinddoes nayone know where the usplash pictures are stored?12:58
bruenig!usplash12:58
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork12:58
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shadowhywindi am just looking for one of the pictures, not how to make my own12:58
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Lunar_LampMrMakeveli, no.  Personally, I would use the 160gb for my home drive, as that's where nearly all my space is taken up.  I have barely 15gb outside of home with loads of apps installed, and >70gb in /home12:58
bruenigshadowhywind, looks like /usr/lib/usplash12:58
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sethkMrMakeveli, just the reverse.  You'll get overlapping seeks, which will increase performance12:59
chemisusbruenig, i dont see anything on those pages that say which package to search for. and i dont want to convert 20 gigs of mp3's into oggs or flac =/12:59
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shadowhywindbruenig all that i see there are to .so files12:59
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crimeboyshadowhywind: i make a usplash theme, with a script to install it12:59
bruenigchemisus, there is a command in the first link about half a page down, that you can copy to enable loads of codec support12:59
AMTXPALL: thanks for your help12:59
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chemisusbruenig, thanks, will check it out12:59
MrMakevelisethk: really now? thats great. if you have time you mind explaining it a little further?12:59
bruenigshadowhywind, yeah that is what the usplash is12:59
AMTXPi'm going to dl the fiesty RC when it comes out12:59
crimeboyshadowhywind: u can find it at gnome-look.org  is atari-usplash01:00
asdasdais feisty better?01:00
shadowhywindok thanks01:00
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Heywoodbruenig: Will that install the latest kernel headers?01:00
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crimeboyshadowhywind: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/atari-usplash?content=5382601:00
viobruenig: it's in iso how can i mount it ?01:00
vio!mountiso01:00
dreginRunning edgy on a Dell D400 laptop. There is no splash screen on boot or shutdown. Only a blinking "_" cursor. This has been the case since a clean install. Any ideas what might be up?01:00
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ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.01:01
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nixnoobbruenig lol I tried the script idea and it cause some hard ass lag.....01:01
Jump86help needed: I'm playing an mp3 in Rhythmbox but its not using the tag info from Easytag.. is it possible that this file has two types of tags on it and rhythmbox is seeing one while easytag sees the other?01:01
sethkMrMakeveli, the o/s tells the hard drive to seek, and then suspends the program that requested the data, and runs other processes until the driver sends the kernel an IRQ saying "I'm ready"01:01
asdasda dregin : I also have the same problem on my dell laptop01:01
michupive question if i have a beryl added to start in my session in gnome even if i swich it of in beryl panel is it really switched off then?01:01
sethkMrMakeveli, so, say, one program is reading something from /, and another from /home, the two seeks can occur at the same time.01:01
MrMakevelioh perfect01:01
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dreginasdasda: I've been googling it for about a week now to no avail :(01:02
shadowhywindcrimeboy i am more looking for the one from fiesty01:02
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bruenignixnoob, the script should only have to say /home/$USER/Desktop/Peer/Peer.pl01:02
MrMakevelisethk: that would help a lot, because i store music and other media i constantly use while doing other stuff. so i should see a noticeable difference01:02
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bruenignixnoob, and the #!/bin/bash of course01:02
MrMakevelisethk: in the home*01:02
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asdasda dre: aye.. i can't determine why either.. u trying ubantu x64?01:02
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crimeboyshadowhywind: its works on feisty01:02
sethkMrMakeveli, I would expect so, yes.  won't always work out that way, but often enough to be worthwhile01:02
michupi mean do i have to remove it from start gnome session or switching it off is the same as working with normal metacity?01:02
nixnoobbruenig i gave up and did it the sloppy way but thanks01:02
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EnverexGreat, now that the kernel has moved all IDE devices into the SCSI section, hdparm doesn't work for setting options :(01:03
dreginasdasda: nope01:03
am1Does anyone know how to find your windows partition within Ubuntu?01:03
MrMakevelisethk: well all it would do is help right? so seems good. maybe i should do it when feisty comes out?01:03
shadowhywindcrimeboy i know, but i am looking for that picture. not a replacement01:03
bruenigam1, sudo fdisk -l01:03
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MrMakevelisethk: my current 160gb has windows xp on it that i've been meaning to format anyways01:03
crimeboyshadowhywind: the .so?01:03
shadowhywindsure, if there is a picture file within the .so01:03
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sethkMrMakeveli, if you want to use it the moment it is released, then yes.  I wait a few weeks, at least, for a new release to get more stable.01:04
crimeboyshadowhywind: i just make that01:04
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am1sudo fdisk -l where do you do that?01:04
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NessieLiberationam1: in a terminal01:04
EnverexDoes anyone know any way of optimising IDE HDs anymore?01:04
NessieLiberationdoes anyone know much about disks / mounting / swap?01:04
shadowhywindcrimeboy how do i transform the .so file into a .jpg01:04
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LoneShadowwhats the best way to upgrade from dapper to edgy from console ?01:04
NessieLiberationeach time i boot i have to manually set my swap01:04
h4writerhi, I got maybe a stupid question, but now I have a laptop (doesn't support polling) with two fans. The first goes down when the temperature is beneath 50C, the second by 40C. Now is my computer in idle 43C. Can I do anything to bring it beneath 40C so it is quiet?01:05
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sethkNessieLiberation, you need to add the swap information to /etc/fstab01:05
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bruenigLoneShadow, sudo sed 's/dapper/edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:05
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NessieLiberationsethk - it is01:05
EADGWhat is the file I need to edit to NOT startx at boot?01:05
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crimeboyshadowhywind: the imagem .so is compiled in C language and put into kernel iniit01:05
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|PiP|hey just upped to 7.04 from 6.10. where is the control panel?01:05
sethkNessieLiberation, paste your /etc/fstab to the paste web site, and we'll look at why01:05
NessieLiberationsethk: but each time i boot the UUID of the swap partition changes, so it doesnt seem to work01:05
bruenig!feisty | |PiP|01:05
ubotu|PiP|: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)01:05
LoneShadowbruenig: is it ok if I have some external repos in sources.list as well ?01:06
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sethkNessieLiberation, that's very odd.  I'm not sure what it means.  what type of device is the swap on?01:06
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NessieLiberationthe relevant line: UUID=e113e993-e624-463a-a40b-264ae49e53aa none swap sw 0 001:06
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bruenigLoneShadow, I would at least comment them out after the sed command, and then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"01:06
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LoneShadowI am thinking of using aptitude instead of apt-get01:07
sethkNessieLiberation, oh, don't identify the partition that way.  Use /dev/whatever01:07
AMTXPfiesty is coming out tommorow +/- 48 hours01:07
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AMTXPerrr01:07
elpargohi anyone can tell me what's the diff between abiword/gtk2 and abiword/gtk2/gnome packages?01:07
NessieLiberationoki01:07
AMTXPRC01:07
NessieLiberationsethk - this was default :-\01:07
AMTXPthe RC of fiesty is coming out tommorow01:07
LoneShadowsome folks mentioned they had problems apt-get for upgrades01:07
chemisusbruenig, that got videos to work, but not mp3s01:07
elpargoLoneShadow, same thing different skin01:07
bruenigLoneShadow, some folks have problems upgrading period.01:07
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LoneShadow:D01:07
bruenigchemisus, should be gstreamer something or other01:08
unooblnxvetHey guys, my computer keeps rebooting as soon as the kernel starts loading.  Are there any parameters to allow me to step through the process to see which driver is causing the problem.  I really think this is a hardware issue.01:08
LoneShadowI was trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades01:08
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bruenigchemisus, did all of those things install or were there any things that said it couldn't find the package01:08
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chemisusbruenig, they all installed01:08
michupmy VGA is Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML01:08
LoneShadowbut I am trying to do my upgrade remotely thru ssh01:08
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michupand i have problems with sound and performance01:08
unooblnxvetThing scrolls tooo fast01:08
bruenigchemisus, doesn't play mp3 in anything?01:08
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crimeboymy VGA is the same01:08
crimeboybut a dont have problem01:09
crimeboyi*01:09
michupsound is in games (eaven this native) like neverwinter nights01:09
chemisusbruenig, ok, nm, it works... was just odd about the program01:09
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chemisusbruenig, thanks for the help01:09
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bruenig!thanks01:09
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)01:09
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lenaud01configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:09
lenaud01See `config.log' for more details.01:09
chemisuswe had to drag and drop into the program the first time instead of double clicking on the mp3 file01:09
patrick-Someone for a question please ?01:09
MrMakevelilol @ !thanks01:10
chemisusand now that we did that, double clicking on the files work01:10
brueniglenaud01, sudo apt-get install build-essential01:10
MrMakeveli!love01:10
icyhotanyone else using bitchx?01:10
ubotuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.01:10
bruenig!justask | patrick-01:10
ubotupatrick-: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:10
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NessieLiberationpatrick-, just ask, dont ask to ask01:10
AMTXPbruenig, if i were to download the fiesty beta, would i be able to upgrade to the fiesty RC / fiesty release without downloading the new version?01:10
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lenaud01ty bruenig01:10
vioi have feisty(beta) and how can i change the different themes on compiz + aiglx ?01:10
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fantasy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:10
gRaCiOsOgood afternoon ppl my question is the next one i would like to install ubuntu on a laptop that i found in my office it is a pemtium 3 500 mhz 256 ram 20 hd the problem is this it doesnt have cdrom no floppy only lan and doesnt have usb boot option either only lan option someone know how could i install it?01:10
lenaud01I was doing buildessentials01:10
lenaud01lol01:10
dreginanyone have any solution to my having a blinking cursor instead of a splash on boot?01:10
bruenigAMTXP, /join #ubuntu+101:10
TaZCorpi leave a post on ubuntuforums.org so if anyone has anyhelp01:10
patrick-I want to know, what mean (arg: 1) with alt+1 (arg: 2) with alt+2 etc...01:10
TaZCorp:D01:10
MrMakevelianyone know any funny commands for the bot?01:10
patrick-someone can answer this ? =)01:10
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who_careswhat's the command for gnome's partition editor?01:11
bruenig!botsnack | MrMakeveli01:11
ubotuMrMakeveli: Yum!01:11
rambo3patrick-, what program ?01:11
LoneShadowbruenig thanks, later01:11
NessieLiberationgparted ?01:11
LoneShadow\exit01:11
MrMakevelilol01:11
MrMakeveli!sex01:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:11
chemisusbruenig, another question =) what should an fstab line look like if we have an ntfs partition on sdb2 that we want to be able to read/write too?01:11
bruenigwho_cares, sudo apt-get install gparted to install it and gksudo gparted to run it01:11
MrMakeveliaww common01:11
MrMakeveli!hug01:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:11
patrick-rambo3: simply in console01:11
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MrMakeveliim use to other bots01:11
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ubotuchemisus: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)01:11
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about slap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:11
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ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.01:11
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gRaCiOsOgood afternoon ppl my question is the next one i would like to install ubuntu on a laptop that i found in my office it is a pemtium 3 500 mhz 256 ram 20 hd the problem is this it doesnt have cdrom no floppy only lan and doesnt have usb boot option either only lan option someone know how could i install it?01:11
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
cab10886gracioso, magicaly01:12
rambo3patrick-, maby tab switching01:12
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NessieLiberation!girls because i am strange01:12
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...01:12
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 2wire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
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odatanyone here able to build a module?01:12
AMTXPbots are awesome01:12
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odatoops01:12
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rambo3odat, cat README01:12
patrick-i know that alt+f1 alt+f2 switch the screen01:12
odati mean anyone here able to compile a module?01:12
jinthe order of an element of a group G ALWAYS devide the order of G if G has a finite order?01:12
patrick-but when i do alt+1 or alt+2 etc..01:12
gRaCiOsOcab10886,  well i heat something about fool terminals or something like it but i really cant find something about my case01:12
unooblnxvetJust in case you missed. my pc keeps rebooting during the install process.  How can I step through the drivers loading in the kernel and see what's causing the problem01:12
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patrick-(arg: 1)... (arg: 2) appears01:13
jindivide*01:13
patrick-I don't know what it mean or do..01:13
gRaCiOsOgood afternoon ppl my question is the next one i would like to install ubuntu on a laptop that i found in my office it is a pemtium 3 500 mhz 256 ram 20 hd the problem is this it doesnt have cdrom no floppy only lan and doesnt have usb boot option either only lan option someone know how could i install it?01:13
NessieLiberationpatrick- what program are you running when it happens?01:13
patrick-nothing hehe01:13
patrick-i'm just in console at all01:13
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dibblego!wpa01:13
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:13
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:13
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MarcNgRaCiOsO: it requires some infrastructure work, but you could look at doing a PXE boot and then an install.  If your NIC supports PXE.01:14
bruenigMrMakeveli, /msg ubotu01:14
patrick-NessieLiberation: so you know ?01:14
Solitariuspatrick-, You mean that you're at the command prompt?  Is your shell bash?01:14
patrick-yup01:14
patrick-Solitarius: yes01:14
bruenig!bot | MrMakeveli should be a list of factoids01:14
ubotuMrMakeveli should be a list of factoids: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:14
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MrMakeveliubotu is a good name01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a good name - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
NessieLiberationpatrick-: if you have more than 1 terminals open, it switches between them01:14
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viowhat is the theme.manager for compiz called? how can i active the theme manager from console?01:14
MrMakeveliubotu is my friend01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is my friend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
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gRaCiOsOMarcN,  how could i know it ?01:14
patrick-NessieLiberation: no, that's with atl+f1 alt+f2 etc..01:14
MrMakeveliubotu friend01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about friend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
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patrick-NessieLiberation: and not alt+1 alt+2 etc..01:14
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MrMakevelihahah01:14
bruenig!botabuse | MrMakeveli01:15
ubotuMrMakeveli: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...01:15
MarcNgRaCiOsO: first check to see if your NIC supports PXE boot.  Check the bios.01:15
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cab10886anyone know how i can't get rid of the fglrx module and drivers so that i can attempt to reinstall everything again?01:15
patrick-NessieLiberation: Try alt+1 or alt+2 or alt+3 etc... in console01:15
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patrick-NessieLiberation: You'll see what it do01:15
MrMakeveliaww common i just wanna know some useful commands :(01:15
NessieLiberationpatrick: no... ctrl alt f1... changes virtual terminals01:15
bruenigcab10886, reinstalling everything will get rid of them01:15
patrick-NessieLiberation: And you'll understand what I mean01:15
vio!envy | cab1088601:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
bruenigMrMakeveli, mess with him in /msg01:15
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NessieLiberationctrl alt f1 switches tabs in the terminal window01:15
gRaCiOsOMarcN,  it only has lan boot option01:15
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MrMakevelii dont know where to get the commands though, i went to the factoids site but i want fun ones01:16
cab10886bruenig, i don't want to reinstall the whole frigging thing...01:16
NessieLiberationpatrick-: do ctrl+shift+t01:16
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bruenigMrMakeveli, do this /msg ubotu whatever and it will return it in pm01:16
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patrick-NessieLiberation: argh, you don't understand.. :/01:16
MarcNgRaCiOsO: that is PXE boot.01:16
viocab10886: try getting envy System->Synaptics Package Manager and search for envy (install it)01:16
NessieLiberationif you have more than 1 tab open in the terminal window01:16
NessieLiberationpatrick... i understand fully01:16
patrick-NessieLiberation: I know that alt+f1 or f2 or f3 switch the tty01:16
cab10886vio, what does that do?01:16
bruenigvio, envy is not in the repos01:16
MrMakevelii want to know if anyone here knows any good commands for me to try out in the pm w/ ubotu01:16
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vioi'll get the link01:17
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gRaCiOsOMarcN,  so what else would i have to do or look for?01:17
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viocab10886:  it can remove your drivers "or" reinstall them01:17
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patrick-NessieLiberation: but what do alt+1 alt+2 alt+3 etc... when i do this combination (arg: 1) or (arg: 2) or (arg: 3) appears01:17
MarcNgRaCiOsO: you'll need to be able to configure a DCHPd server (which  you don't want to do on your corp network unless you are behind a firewall) and tftpd and a place to unpack the ISO.01:17
preactionMrMakeveli: ubotu keeps telling you about its search function... maybe that'd be a good place to try01:17
patrick-NessieLiberation: but when I do*01:17
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MarcNgRaCiOsO: it is bunch of work if you haven't done it before.01:17
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MarcNgRaCiOsO: no floppy?01:17
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gRaCiOsOMarcN,  no floppy and no cdrom01:18
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viocab10886: try this: http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.1-0ubuntu4_all.deb01:19
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cab10886what does that do?01:19
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viocab10886:  you can read about it here: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html01:19
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MarcNgRaCiOsO: there is probably a HOWTO on PXE install.01:19
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gRaCiOsOMarcN,  i have ubuntu edgy installed at home in a desktop pc i could configure the dhcpd there and i have already configured proftpd is it?01:19
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livingtmif i drop an executable script in /etc/cron.daily, should it be executing  daily?01:20
brueniglivingtm, yes01:20
livingtmbruenig, any way to prove that its working, or find errors if its not?01:20
brueniglivingtm, runs at 6:25 each morning theoretically01:20
niallSIZZAM: you are a WONDERFUL human being01:20
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sizzamniall: it worked i take it?01:20
niallhaha01:21
niallyeah01:21
niallthanks01:21
niallmuch better01:21
sizzamexcellent, you're welcome01:21
brueniglivingtm, put something in the script that you can check like add "echo test > /test" or something tha is what I usually do01:21
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niallno laggyness01:21
IndyGunFreakwill Xubuntu 7.04 be as stable as Ubuntu 7.0401:21
niallthanks again01:21
cab10886hmmm that will get rid of the ati drivers and potentialy reinstall them?01:21
livingtmbruenig, okay thanks01:21
Solitariuspatrick-, NessieLiberation: I'm pretty sure it have to do with the readline behavior of bash.  But I don't understand the man very01:22
Solitariuswell.01:22
gRaCiOsOMarcN,  i will look for a PXE install howto thanks a lot =)01:22
bruenigIndyGunFreak, pretty much yeah01:22
MarcNgRaCiOsO: yes install dhcpd there, you'll also need to configure tftp (trivial FTP, not ftpd), get the appropriate kernel/initrd for PXE booting and setup ftp, http, nfs to serve the unpacked contents of the iso.01:22
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IndyGunFreakbruenig: i kinda figured, think i'm gonna put xubuntu 7.04 on my laptop01:22
viobruenig: it seems you know quite alot, how can i activate the compiz-theme-manager in feisty?01:22
bruenig!compiz | vio01:22
ubotuvio: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:22
MarcNgRaCiOsO: I use it all the time at work for RHEL, SLES but it requires a bit of setup.01:22
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livingtmbruenig, interesting, if i run the script from the terminal it works fine, but it hasnt fired for the past 3 days01:22
MarcNgRaCiOsO: if you find a floppy, this is a handy site: http://www.instalinux.com/01:22
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viobruenig: i allready have compiz installed (and working) i just can't seem to find the manager im using aiglx..)01:23
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bruenigvio, last line "Help in #ubuntu-effects"01:23
MarcNgRaCiOsO: actually you need a CD01:23
livingtmWhat user do cron jobs execute as?01:23
bruenigvio, and feisty is in #ubuntu+101:23
brueniglivingtm, root01:23
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gRaCiOsOMarcN,  i think i cant get a floppy for that laptop but i will try with PXE dont u have hotmail msn?01:23
brueniglivingtm, the ones in /etc/cron.daily do at least01:24
yop# ubuntu -es #01:24
viobruenig: i'm not getting any answers in #ubuntu-effects, ill tryk #ubuntu+101:24
brueniglivingtm, there is a user crontab that you can access with crontab -e01:24
yopsorry whi can i get to he spanish canal01:24
bruenig!es | yop01:24
ubotuyop: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:24
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yopwho01:25
yophow?01:25
AlefBetApt just installed a new kernel, and --configure seems to hang on configuring grub.  Anyone seen this?01:25
bruenigyop, /join #ubuntu-es01:25
yopok thanks01:25
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MarcNgRaCiOsO: what?01:26
unooblnxvetAnyway, I guess no one knows.  I leave you with this: there are two major products that come out of Berkeley - LSD and Unix.  I do not believe this to be a coincidence.  No I did not make that up.  Peace01:26
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IndyGunFreakbruenig: i've got one more question about xorg.conf, if you have a sec01:26
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sethkAlefBet, I have, but not recently.01:26
AlefBetsethk: do you remember how you worked around it?01:26
gRaCiOsOMarcN,  i ask if u dont have hotmail messenger account to add u and i will ask u if i have dudes01:26
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bruenigIndyGunFreak, just ask the channel01:27
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NessieLiberationunooblnxvet: lsd is swiss ?01:27
livingtmbruenig, do the scripts in cron.daily execute sequentially or in parallel?01:27
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h3h_timohey all, has anyone had any idea updating aptitude or installing amarok?? because i havent been able to ... any help is appreciated01:27
IndyGunFreakbruenig: yeah, i just trust you're judgement...lol, when I upgrade my desktop to feisty, it has dual monitors that was a bit tricky to set up, can i just replace my feisty xorg.conf, with my edgy one, and it work?01:27
brueniglivingtm, nothing executes in parallel technically01:28
unooblnxvetwhatever bruenig it was funny when I read it ;-)01:28
bruenigIndyGunFreak, that might be a question for #ubuntu+1, I don't know01:28
IndyGunFreakbruenig: good thought01:28
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IndyGunFreakcuz it was a pain01:28
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brueniglivingtm, it executes through the command run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily01:28
brueniglivingtm, so man run-parts and see what exactly that means01:28
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Fathefnerhello do u know were i can get a wireless card driver01:29
NessieLiberationwhat wireless card?01:29
Fathefnersrry hol on01:30
FathefnerNETGEAR WG311v2 802.11g Wireless PCI Adapter01:30
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AlefBetWhere's a good place to go for help when "apt-get --configure -a" hangs while configuring a package?01:31
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NessieLiberationdoes anyone know if that requires ndiswrapper? because i have a friend with a similar card01:31
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gregcha117i just installed ubuntu and everytime i try to boot windows i get01:31
gregcha117system32/ntoskrnl.exe is missing01:31
barcodeanyone running ubuntu with the mactel patches?01:31
bruenigAlefBet, you mean sudo dpkg --configure -a01:31
AlefBetbruenig: Yes.01:31
gRaCiOsOhow could i disable a module loaded?01:31
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bruenigAlefBet, ok you ran that command?01:31
AlefBetbruenig: Yes, after apt-get dist-upgrade froze and I killed it.01:32
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bruenigAlefBet, and your problem is...01:32
barcodeCan anyone help me with applying patches and compiling a kernel?01:32
AlefBetbruenig: It's freezing again on the same package.01:32
Fathefnerhow do u get on a network in ubuntu01:32
gregcha117can someone tell me what to do i cant boot windows anymore?01:32
bruenigAlefBet, oh not sure01:32
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brueniggregcha117, looks like you lost some data, did you have to resize your windows partition during install?01:32
gRaCiOsOhow could i disable a module loaded?01:32
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Xsylottequestion: how to install/update gaim ? edgy have beta3 version that crashes like mad and i can't anywhere .deb packages for other versions01:33
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AlefBetbruenig: It's freezing while configuring grub after installing linux-image-generic, if that is helpful....01:33
bruenigXsylotte, third party repos have it01:33
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Xsylottebruenig, help me01:33
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Xsylottei am new to linux01:33
NessieLiberationif you want gaim 2.0.0beta6, debuntu has the debs01:33
gregcha117bruenig: yeah i did, but it booted the first two times, then i shut it down and now when i try to boot it it wont01:33
barcodeI'm trying to apply patches to a kernel and whenever I try the ./apply command I get an error informing me the patches would not apply cleanly. Can anyone help me?01:33
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Xsylotteyes, i want beta601:33
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Xsylottehow to get it01:33
Xsylotteand how to install it01:34
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Xsylottei am new to linux/ubuntu01:34
bruenigXsylotte, here is one http://repository.debuntu.org/01:34
NessieLiberationgoto that website, and they have instructions01:34
brueniggregcha117, did you delete that file perhaps01:34
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gRaCiOsOhow could i disable a module loaded?01:34
Xsylottebruenig, can I pm you ?01:34
roadfishwhat will happen if I install a EdgyEft package (specifically acroread) in a FeistyFawn install?01:34
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bruenigXsylotte, are you on edgy or dapper?01:34
mina_linux_Tuxhey , i have a touchscreen i want to get it working on ubuntu 6.10, the driver is provided in 2 kernel compiled modules , following the Readme http://pastebin.ca/435492 , i didn't get it UP , here i have all the available logs , ( dmesg http://pastebin.ca/435472 , kernel  http://pastebin.ca/435484 , messages http://pastebin.ca/435485 , lsmod    http://pastebin.ca/435488 ) , i run od -h < /dev/usb/tkpanel0 i got no output , is there any comment .?01:34
gregcha117bruenig: no i didnt delete anything thats why im so confused as to why its missing01:34
Xsylotteedgy01:35
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sizzamgregcha117: is it windows xp or 200001:35
gregcha117xp01:35
francoisi can't create a directory in my home and write files to it without using sudo, how do i change this01:35
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Xsylottebruenig, i am on edgy01:35
AlefBetfrancois: What do you get when you type "ls -l $HOME"?01:35
NessieLiberationXsylotte: have you visited debuntu.org ?01:36
bruenigXsylotte, run this: echo "deb  http://repository.debuntu.org/ edgy multiverse" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list && wget http://repository.debuntu.org/GPG-Key-chantra.txt && sudo apt-key add GPG-Key-chantra.txt && rm GPG-Key-chantra.txt && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade01:36
AlefBetfrancois: in a terminal01:36
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sizzamgregcha117: i searched the forums for that problem and got a few results.  most of them refer to windows 2000.   check out this post:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276936&highlight=system32%2Fntoskrnl.exe01:36
Xsylottebash: deb: command not found01:36
AlefBetfrancois: Actually, try "ls -ld $HOME"01:36
Dan4I need some help installing my second network printer, the printer URL has a space in it so when I press apply, it removes anything after the space01:36
nikinwhat is the command to see the used, and free hardware space01:36
bruenigXsylotte, run everything after the : (including echo)01:36
barcodeDoes anyone know how to fix this error when applying patches to a vanilla kernel? "[: 6: ==: unexpected operator01:36
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francoisAlefBet: drwxr-xr-x 40 francois users 4096 2007-04-11 19:27 /home/francois01:36
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mina_linux_Tuxall i want to know is there a way to get compiled kernel modules to be inserted ?01:37
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sizzamnikin: df (disk free) and du (disk used(?)01:37
fougguys, my sound has constant static, i never had this problem when using windows. Any ideas or suggestions?01:37
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mrakhi!01:37
mina_linux_Tuxany comment ppl , or am i off-topic ?01:37
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nikinsizzam, ty01:37
mrakhow could I check why my /etc/init.d/lighttpd start isn't starting the lighttpd?01:37
Xsylottekk01:37
mrak(starting it manually works?!)01:37
whtetok, i am in a unique situation, i have one account on the box and i have issued the following command "sudo mv /etc/passwd /etc/passwd.org" when i am trying to do something, now i can't do anything on the box now, how can i fix it?01:37
francoisAlefBet: i want to be able to just use nano and make files without having to be root, mostly because i think this is wrong, lol01:37
thesporei can't get my wireless connection to work.. i installed wireless connection manager applet and it shows no signal, and when i try to connect it says DHCP error.  i'm using a belkin usb wireless g adapter, and a wrt54g router01:37
bruenigmrak, look through the code see where there may be a problem01:37
Xsylottebruenig, The following packages have been kept back:01:37
Xsylotte  gaim gaim-data01:37
Xsylotte0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.01:37
roadfishbruenig: what package has the "deb" binary?01:37
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bruenigXsylotte, sudo apt-get install gaim01:37
bruenigroadfish, what01:38
AlefBetfrancois: What is the name of the directory you created and want to write to?01:38
theonlyaltthespore, I'm having the same problem...01:38
mina_linux_Tuxhey ppl any comment .... may any one answer me ?01:38
bruenig!patience | mina_linux_Tux01:38
ubotumina_linux_Tux: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:38
thesporewhtet, run "sudo mv /etc/passwd.org /etc/passwd01:38
livingtmbruenig, turns out your cron - actuated scripts cannot have a "." in the name!01:38
rg535748adept updater tells me another process is using the database but I do'nt have anything else running. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?01:38
mrakbruenig, any pointers?01:38
francoisAlefBet: I created a directory called /Dev/dragan/ in my /home directory,01:38
thesporetheonlyalt, getting anywhere?01:38
whtetthespore, it is not recognizing whtet anymore :D01:38
barcodeDoes anyone know how to fix this error when applying patches to a vanilla kernel? "[: 6: ==: unexpected operator"01:38
francoisAlefBet: but being the owner of that folder, why can't I write to it ?01:39
Xsylottebruenig, it is installing beta5 if i see correct01:39
bruenigmrak, what01:39
Dan4anyone know how to put spaces in a printer URL?01:39
Ax3mrak: cat /var/log/lighttpd/error.log01:39
preactionmina_linux_Tux: insmod or modprobe usually does what you ask01:39
AlefBetfrancois: what are the permissions on it?01:39
whtetwell, i have to try live_cd now01:39
MarcNgRaCiOsO: did you get my message?01:39
bruenigXsylotte, should be beta 6, I am getting beta 6 from it01:39
whtetthx anyway tho01:39
theonlyaltthespore, not so much. I just did a full reinstall, figure I'd get all the junk outta the way.01:39
roadfishbruenig: ok, I see ... you are feeding "deb" into /etc/apt/sources.list ... so forget my question01:39
Xsylottebruenig, Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y01:39
XsylotteGet:1 http://repository.debuntu.org edgy/multiverse gaim 1:2.0.0+beta5-0ubuntu2 [1796kB] 01:39
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bruenigmrak, oh as far as the script, no not sure01:39
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bruenigXsylotte, weird01:39
AlefBetfrancois: (you can get the permissions by typing ls -ld directory_name)01:39
mrakAx3: there's nothing int he log01:39
gRaCiOsOMarcN,  no sorry what was it ?01:39
preactionmina_linux_Tux: you have to run depmod first though, to rebuild the dependencies01:39
mrakAx3: it's like it never gets spawned?01:40
francoisAlefBet: drwxr-xr-x 3 francois francois 4096 2007-04-08 23:05 /home/francois/Dev01:40
Xsylottewell beta5 is better then beta3? :)01:40
Ax3mrak: anything in /var/log/messages?01:40
francoisAlefBet: thats for the /dev directory, in my home01:40
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: it's ok did you check the Readme file , it requires that the insmod to be inserted in the /etc/rc.d/rc.local which is not present under ubuntu, so i put the module under /etc/modules what i have to than that ?01:40
AlefBetfrancois: what error do you get when you try to create a file there?01:40
thesporetheonlyalt, reinstall no dice?01:41
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rg535748 adept updater tells me another process is using the database but I do'nt have anything else running. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?01:41
mrakAx3: no?01:41
mrakI mean, no.01:41
theonlyaltthespore, where'd you get the wireless connection manager applet? I want to give it a shot.01:41
SlimeyPeterg535748: have you closed it and then re-opened it? I find that often works01:41
roadfishcan you mix packages from different releases when one release is missing that package?01:41
vio!wireless01:41
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:41
rg535748SlimeyPete: Yes, no dice.01:41
francoisAlefBet: if i mkdir /dragan/ it says that hte file exists,01:41
bruenigroadfish, you can, not a good idea though01:41
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: it requires too to be loaded before startx01:41
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preactionmina_linux_Tux: most kernel modules do/are01:42
SlimeyPeterg535748: I also find that loading Synaptic and then closing it fixes Adept, but of course that relies on you having Synaptic installed ;)01:42
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AlefBetfrancois: Are you typing "mkdir /dragan/"?01:42
thesporetheonlyalt, http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtkwifi/01:42
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mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: do/are what ?01:42
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preactionmina_linux_Tux: loaded before X01:42
SlimeyPeterg535748: there's a lock file somewhere, I'm not sure where it is though. If you google around a bit you may be able to find out where it is and then remove it manually.01:42
francoisAlefBet: no, sry, i did mkdir dragan/01:42
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: so now what i have to do ?01:42
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AlefBetfrancois: what are the permissions on "dragan"?01:43
theonlyaltthanks, thespore and thanks to vio for pointing that out. :)01:43
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: and is it right to put it in /etc/modules at the time /etc/rc.d/rc.local not present01:43
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preactionmina_linux_Tux: what do you mean by "it"01:43
Ax3mrak: ok so nothing's happening at all, but you're absolutely sure lighttpd.conf settings are all correct?01:43
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francoisAlefBet: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-04-11 20:28 dragan/01:43
Xsylottebruenig, hmmm it has installed beta501:43
nikini have learnd something new today.. SVN is HDD eating thing ... :D01:43
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mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: the module , as you can there is the tkusb.ko01:43
mrakyes, when I run it with /usr/sbin/lighttpd -f /etc/lighttpd/lighttp.conf -D (foreground)01:43
roadfishbruenig: if the package didn't run well, would an uninstall work reliably?01:43
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mrakit runs and everything is fine01:43
francoisAlefBet: but i don't know why, because i didn't use sudo, i just used mkdir01:43
AlefBetfrancois: Did you create "dragan" as yourself or as root?01:44
elpargo?abiword01:44
bruenigSlimeyPete, /var/lib/dpkg/lock, there is also one i /var/lib/aptitude/lock and /var/lib/apt/lists/lock not sure which is which01:44
francoisAlefBet: as myself,01:44
AlefBetfrancois: that's odd.  Try typing "chown francois:users dragan"01:44
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bruenigroadfish, you would have dependency issues likely and that becomes tiresome01:44
SlimeyPetebruenig: ah right, cheers01:44
elpargoanyone can help me with dictionaries and abiword, how do I install one?01:44
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Xsylottebruenig, maybe because i have amd64 ?01:45
francoisAlefBet: chown: changing ownership of `dragan': Operation not permitted01:45
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Xsylottebtw. any idea how to install two things01:45
francoisAlefBet: maybe use sudo in front of that ?01:45
preactionmina_linux_Tux: did the module load? is the module in the appropriate /lib/modules/`uname -a` directory?01:45
bruenigXsylotte, doubt it01:45
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Dan4does anyone know how to add spaces to a printer URL without it removing everything after it01:45
bruenigXsylotte, how to install two things in general or two specific things01:45
Xsylotteflash player in firefox  (amd64) and logitech mx500 optical mouse (edgy eft)01:45
mrakAx: I removed the --quiet option for start-stop-deamon in the init script and now it seems to work?01:45
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Xsylottecouldn't find any manual that works01:45
michupive problem with my VGA and sound01:45
bruenigXsylotte, flash player is not going to work except through some hacking, not sure on the latter01:45
michupcan someone help me?01:45
preactionmina_linux_Tux: make that: /lib/modules/`uname -r`01:46
Xsylottethen it's better to wait for flash player01:46
Xsylotteand logitech mx500 on edgy01:46
francoisAlefBet: woah, now i have a dragan/ directory in my /01:46
MrMakeveli!someone01:46
Xsylotte?01:46
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:46
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AlefBetfrancois: Try "rmdir dragan && mkdir dragan".01:46
mrakHow could I install version < 1.5.0.11 of firefox on dapper?01:46
francoisAlefBet: :S01:46
bruenigXsylotte, wait? it isn't coming01:46
Pelomichup,  what is the problem ?01:46
Xsylotteit won't come at all ?01:46
Xsylottelol ?01:46
michupthis is output lspci and dmesg of my laptop01:46
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: i just posted all the logs that shows if it loads or not , and as before i did put it in the /lib/modules/'uname -a' and run depmod i got the NIC and the mouse not working after a restart01:46
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michupits asus a3h501201:46
bruenigXsylotte, adobe seems less than uninterested in 64 bit flash01:46
AlefBetfrancois:  Sorry, I assumed you were in ~/Dev.01:46
NessieLiberationXsylotte: i've heard of people doing it by installing the 32bit version of firefox01:46
NessieLiberationthen installing the 32bit flash in the 32bit browser01:47
bruenigyeah hacking01:47
XsylotteNessieLiberation, i've found some tutorials, but i couldn't make it work01:47
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Pelomichup,  sorry I can't help with that ,  try in the forum if noone else volunteers01:47
SlimeyPeteI think you can do it via a 32bit chroot or something01:47
theonlyaltthespore, omg... I think that worked... there's no signal strentgh but at least it says I'm connected!01:47
AlefBetfrancois: if you're not in ~/Dev, add "Dev/" before "dragan"01:47
SlimeyPetesounds like a lot of hassle, though ;)01:47
michupvga is very pure performance in games, i thought first it is because of implementation of libraries in cedega01:47
NessieLiberationbut 32bit flash in 64bit browser doesnt work01:47
NessieLiberationah ok01:47
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction:  on what must i run depmod01:47
Xsylotteheh :)01:47
Xsylottemaybe that is reason01:47
preactionmina_linux_Tux: actually, /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel (`uname -r` runs the command uname -r and gets the output, it should look something like "/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel")01:47
bruenigchroot, or 32 bit firefox or wine or nsplugwrapper can work I think01:47
Xsylottewell i have flash player in windos01:47
bruenignspluginwrapper*01:47
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Xsylottewine doesn;'t support amd6401:47
michupbut then i figure out that it might be other problem because i try native games01:47
thesporetheonlyalt, well try it out and see.. someone just suggested i install the windows drivers with ndiswrapper01:47
francoisAlefBet: i was.....but i guess at some point i typo'ed and made a directory in my / :S01:47
bruenigoh well if it did01:47
michupand 3d chess01:47
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: i did ,01:47
cab10886whoever helped me with that envy script01:47
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francoisAlefBet: man i'm being dumb tonight01:48
michupand performance is still pure01:48
cab10886thankyou01:48
michupsecond is sound01:48
AlefBetfrancois: I've been there.01:48
michupit stops for a while in each second01:48
michupin games01:48
preactionmina_linux_Tux: so now depmod -b/lib/modules/`uname -r`01:48
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cab10886vio, did you help me with that envy script?01:48
AlefBetfrancois: anyway, try "cd ~/Dev && rmdir dragan && mkdir dragan && ls -ld dragan"01:48
theonlyaltthespore are you running a Linksys by chance?01:48
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: what i'm asking for is how to load the modules before the startx , and on what i must run depmod and what's the difference between /lib/modules/"uname -a" and /etc/modules01:48
francoisAlefBet: done, things are perfect, i guess i screwed up somewhere, but its fixed now, thanks alot :D01:49
roadfishsuppose I install multiple desktops (such as adding kubuntu-desktop and edubuntu-desktop) to an Ubuntu install. Is it easy to switch between the desktops? Maybe during the login prompt?01:49
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AlefBetfrancois: NP01:49
Peloroadfish,  that is exactly it,  you select your desktop during the login01:49
NessieLiberationroadfish: i did kubuntu and ubuntu, it worked fine - just a few thnigs01:49
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Xsylottebruenig, thx a lot01:49
NessieLiberationlike the login screen was alwyas KDE01:49
Xsylottenn everyone01:49
MrMakeveli30.01:50
Xsylottei hope that beta5 doesn't crash that much01:50
preactionmina_linux_Tux: it must be backticks, it must be ``, the directory should be /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel, you run "depmod `uname -r`", and /etc/modules is just a list of modules to load, you put the name of your module there01:50
MarcNNessieLiberation: you can change that with dpkg-reconfigure gdm01:50
NessieLiberationso the gnome administration => configure login window didnt work right01:50
NessieLiberationah ok thanks MarcN01:50
theonlyaltroadfish, I've had Ubuntu, Kubuntu, AND Xubuntu installed without any problems.01:50
NessieLiberationi got rid of kde now :P01:50
thesporetheonlyalt, my router is linksys but the adapter is belkin01:50
preactionmina_linux_Tux: the entry in /etc/modules should not include the ".ko"01:51
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mrakany idea on how to install older firefox version on dapper?01:52
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: as i said , i did put the put module tkusb.ko in /lib/modules/"uname -a" and i did run depmod on this directory and restarted got the mouse and NIC not working , and u told me before to undo what i did and come back and here i'm , don't know if you do remember it01:52
Ltaris it possible to change the default behavior of dragging a file between windows from "copy" to "cut/paste"01:52
theonlyaltthespore, ok, mines the opposite. Linksys card with a belkin router. I tried using a belkin 802.11g card, and I just got fed up with it.01:52
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Pelomark_,  remove it from synaptic and  install the olderverion from source you get on the site or where ever,  get a deb package if you can01:53
jribLtar: ctrl-drag will do that, I don't know of a way to make it default though01:53
roadfishtheonlyalt: what's the attraction of Xubuntu? just uses fewer resources?01:53
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bruenigPelo, a deb might not be a good idea01:53
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theonlyaltbasically, I was having some problems with my system getting overloaded.. it's kind of a piece...01:53
MarcNtheonlyalt: I have a belkin 802.11g card and it works great.  The key is to know the version of it.  They seem to have used 3 different chipsets.01:54
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Peloroadfish,  that is pretty much it,  altho  thunar as an interesting block renaming feature01:54
preactionmina_linux_Tux: and Now i'm saying that it should actually go in the "kernel" directory underneath /lib/modules/`uname -r` <- note that it's backticks and -r. my uname -r says 2.6.17-11-generic, so i would put the modules in /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel, and then run "depmod 2.6.17-11-generic" and then put the module file name (w/o the .ko) in /etc/modules01:54
goldbondhello, does anyone know how i can determine my computer's ip address on the network?01:54
mrakPelo: where could I look for older packages?01:54
NessieLiberationifconfig01:54
MarcNroadfish: yes, less resources.01:54
goldbondthanks01:54
Pelogoldbond,   ifconfig01:54
blahmanifconfig01:54
calamariwhat is the default dpi setting?  I've made some changes and lost my original settings01:54
MarcNgoldbond: ip addr   or   ifconfig01:54
Pelomrak,   firefox site archive ?01:54
preactioncalamari: usually 7201:54
calamaripreaction: thanks01:54
goldbondthanks a lot01:54
LtarmarcN- how does xubuntu save resources? the site mentions reliance on GTK+ ... is GTK more efficient than... the alternative?01:54
MarcNgoldbond: or System->Admin->Network tools01:55
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: then what after running depmod uname -r ?01:55
rgd55 booting into windows safe mode using F8 does not work after installing ubuntu01:55
ericuwhat is the difference between lo, eth1, and eth0?01:55
MarcNLtar: xubuntu uses less background processes and things like xterm is much smaller than konsole/gnome-terminal.01:55
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MarcNLtar: less libraries typically too01:55
roadfishPelo: what is "block renaming"?01:56
cblack0long-time linux user installing ubuntu/kubuntu for the first time. Using a laptop that already has a good install of suse I want to keep. I have a 5GB partition totally free that I have set aside for ubuntu. However, when I boot ubuntu installer (7.04 beta) and choose manual partitioning it oddly shows me an sda drive rather than the hda drive I am used to. This is an older laptop and definitely does NOT have a sata or scsi drive. In addition, I do not see01:56
cblack0my existing partitions in the graphical partitioner. Does anyone have any advice or pointers? I did not find anything about this in the faq01:56
Peloroadfish,  renaming multiple files in one go01:56
ericuwhat is the difference between lo, eth1, and eth0?01:56
madsporkmurdererericu, lo is loopback- your own computer eth0 and eth1 are 2 different ethernet devices- do you have 2 network cards?01:56
NessieLiberationlo is a your own computer01:56
Peloroadfish,  you can add it to ubuntu , just install thunar01:56
chili555ericu lo is loopback, ignore it, eth1 is usually wireless and eth0 is wired01:56
ericumadsporkmurderer, yeah I have wirless and wired01:57
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preactionmina_linux_Tux: after that, modprobe should work. or put the name of the module w/o the .ko into /etc/modules, and reboot01:57
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slopis there a console command that will tell me how much RAM i have installed?01:57
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jribslop: free -m01:57
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slopjrib: thx01:57
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blahmanwhat is the cycle/second ration for a sata cable01:57
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: must i run depmod uname -r or depmod /lib/modules/"uname -r"01:57
jribslop: or   cat /proc/meminfo   too01:57
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madsporkmurdererericu, in that case one will have the ip you are after, the other you can ignore(try both if unsure)01:57
preactionmina_linux_Tux: the first one, read man depmod01:58
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: ok i'll try and come back01:58
ericumadsporkmurderer, ok thanks01:58
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madsporkmurderernp01:58
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SolitariusIs patrick- still here in any kind of shape or form?01:58
slopjrib: is there a similar command for processor information?01:58
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jribslop: cat /proc/cpuinfo01:59
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MarcNslop:  /proc/cpuinfo01:59
slopjrib: thx again01:59
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MarcNslop: /proc has a ton of interesting 'files'01:59
roadfishcblack0: something like that happened to me. I had an PATA drive in hdg (connected on an extra IDE card) and it has been renamed as sda in my (Feisty) Ubuntu install. This /dev/sda _is_ my old /dev/hdg. I don't know why this happens.01:59
DualCortexHey guys, anyone know how to align (for example) the list of most resource hungry processes in conky? In the current conky setup I have they're not aligned. They keep moving depending on the length of the name of the process.01:59
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slopMarcN: cool, i'll check them out :)02:00
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nikinis there somewhere a list about wlancards with Wavelan Chip? i heard thoose are  working with all Linux distros02:00
roadfishPelo: tnx for the info. and to everyone else too.02:00
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cblack0roadfish, interesting. I am ok with that, I just want to be able to install on ONLY the hda3/sda3 I put aside for ubuntu02:00
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cblack0and the partitioner is not showing my old partitions02:00
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DualCortexHey guys, anyone know how to align (for example) the list of most resource hungry processes in conky? In the current conky setup I have they're not aligned. They keep moving depending on the length of the name of the process.02:01
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MarcNnikin:  a good wireless resource is: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/02:01
roadfishroadfish: try running "sudo cfdisk -P s /dev/sda". Does its partitions match hda on your SUSE? I'd like to know why Ubuntu does this renaming.02:01
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PeloDualCortex,  have you tried clicking the column header ?02:01
BlankTimCan anyone help me with a WINE install issue?02:02
jribBlankTim: what is the issue?02:02
DualCortexcolumn header?02:02
DualCortexPelo: what column header?02:02
roadfishcblack0: oops, see my message to myself above02:02
PeloBlankTim,   ask in #winehq02:02
cblack0k, hold02:02
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DualCortexPelo: conky barely shows text afaik02:02
NessieLiberationgnome02:02
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PeloDualCortex,  sorry, I thought you had columns with names at the top that you could try clicking on02:02
BlankTimNot entirely sure, but when I try to run wincfg I get exec: 29: /usr/bin/wine: not found02:02
NessieLiberationsorry - wrong channel02:02
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DualCortexHey guys, anyone know how to align (for example) the list of most resource hungry processes in conky? In the current conky setup I have they're not aligned. They keep moving depending on the length of the name of the process.02:03
Ollie|i did apt-get install wu-ftpd I no longer want this software what is the command to remove/uninstall it?02:03
PeloDualCortex,  man conky02:03
ahroni need help with running the edgy installer on a system that has a tv connected to its nvidia card with s-video and i have no monitor for it. when i boot up i see the ubuntu start up screen but when X starts the tv goes blank, is their any way around this so that i can run the installer from the live cd on my tv, or a way to remotely install from my laptop? thanks for any help02:03
BlankTimwhen02:03
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BlankTimI ls that /usr/bin directory wine is there02:03
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jribOllie|: sudo aptitude purge wu-ftpd02:03
jrib!apt > Ollie|    (Ollie|, see the private message from ubotu)02:03
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NessieLiberationwhat's the difference between purge and remove?02:03
BlankTimI'm running an AMD64 processor, so I had to force wine to install, I'm wondering if it might be related02:04
MarcNNessieLiberation: purge removes config files02:04
PeloNessieLiberation,  purge will also remove settings folder02:04
roadfish!apt > roadfish02:04
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NessieLiberationoki02:04
cblack0interesting, I get "Bad primary partition 3: partition ends after end-of-disk"02:04
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eimajenthatHowdy everyone.  I'm having an issue with vCards.  I just got my wife to move from the Mac to Ubuntu Feisty.  Well, it's going alright for the most part.  But she had a really big contact database in Apple's Address Book.  She exported it to vCards, but Evolution won't let me import them.  I found a program called Rubrica that imports them and reads them, but none have addresses, just names and sometimes phone numbers.  I know at02:05
eimajenthatleast 80% had mailing addresses.  Does Apple do something weird with vCards?02:05
jribBlankTim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD6402:05
tjsI'm not really sure what to make of this.. run dpkg -l | grep popularity-contest on your ubuntu machines.. how many people knew they were running something that was sending system info back to ubuntu about every package they installed ?02:05
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ahrondoes anyone know how to get the live install cd to use s-video when it starts X?02:05
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cyrillicdoes anyone know how i can install a 32 bit firefox so it has flash player on 64 bit ubuntu?02:05
shootersI can't upgrade to feisty.  It says I need at least 123M of free disc space on /var/cache/apt/archives, and I have over 1G free on /02:05
cyrillic(as in i want a precompiled 32 bit binary that is configured for flash... similar to how gentoo does it)02:05
Pelotjs,   there is a switch in the windows where you enables your repos that you can check uncheck for that02:05
jrib!flash > cyrillic    (cyrillic, see the private message from ubotu)02:06
BlankTimOk I'll give that a try, thanks!  :)02:06
jribcyrillic: the way I do it, I use nspluginwrapper and run 32bit flash in my 64bit browser, but the bot will give you instructions for what you asked02:06
tjsPelo: I don't run X02:06
sizzamcyrillic: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Firefox32_in_AMD6402:06
cblack0so apparently my partition table is a bit odd...02:06
roadfishcblack0: beats me what's happening. I'm having a bit of trouble with one of my eSATA drives but this hdg-renamed-as-sda works for me.02:06
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tjsPelo: is it off by default?02:07
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cyrillicdarn it, i'm using sun right now and i can't figure out how to switch to a new window because alt+5 doesn't work.  i'm using irssi02:07
Pelotjs,  well,  in anycase, the feature is not hidden,   it's just to let canonical know what packages ppl are installing ,  stats02:07
Ollie|jrib, thanks man02:07
mina_linux_Tuxpreaction: are you there02:07
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Pelotjs, I don'T remember,  I know I have it on but that is all02:07
ZambeziI need to access "localhost:xxx" on my server, but it doesn't work that good in Elinks. Is it possible to access the page on a computer with X?02:07
SlicerDicer-anybody familar with nvidia.ko being liquidated from /lib/modules/2.6.*/volatile/?02:07
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SlicerDicer-every reboot it gets removed for some unknown reason02:07
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PriceChildSlicerDicer-, notice the path "volatile"02:08
tjsPelo: yeh I don't really care about it, seems like a good idea to me.. but my employers? If I said 'every time we install software on one of these VMs ubuntu is informed' the pointy-headed powers that be might decide I should switch to redhat or something ;)02:08
SlicerDicer-PriceChild: why is it looking there then?02:08
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SlicerDicer-PriceChild: how do I get it to look elsewhere?02:08
andrehi folks02:08
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mina_linux_Tuxppl depmod uname -r and depmod "uname -r", returns can't read module no such a module name , is it the right way to use depmod ????02:08
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PriceChildSlicerDicer-, because that's where it should look? That's where the thing is put.02:08
cblack0no critical data on here, altho I'd prefer not to lose my known-good suse install. I may try just deleting that partition w/ fdisk and recreting it02:09
Pelotjs,   I'm sure you can remove it , or disable it,  check for info in the forum02:09
SlicerDicer-PriceChild: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko02:09
SlicerDicer-thats where it shoves it02:09
SlicerDicer-makes no sense what so ever..02:09
PriceChildSlicerDicer-, and it should be copied into volatile to be used02:09
SlicerDicer-PriceChild: well.... this is wonderful02:09
mina_linux_Tuxmay anyone answer me02:09
thrasheris there a svn for yahoo messenger?02:09
PriceChildSlicerDicer-, what have you broken?02:10
SlicerDicer-PriceChild: my head I guess...02:10
SlicerDicer-its been doing this for quite a while02:10
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Pelotjs,  man popularity-contest02:10
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tjsPelo: yeh I'm sure I can, just my point is its not really the kind of thing that some people want on by default.. for -some- people discovering that might be enough to find another distro.. can you imagine the military using ubuntu with something like that?02:10
PriceChildmina_linux_Tux, afaik " and ' don't work, you need `02:10
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tjsPelo: *nods*02:10
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cyrillicso gnash is the answer for flash on 64 bit ubuntu?02:10
SlicerDicer-PriceChild: I will obliterate old kernels maybe thats the problem?02:10
PriceChildSlicerDicer-, no02:10
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Pelotjs,   the forum might tell you if it is enable or disable by default02:10
tjsPelo: ty02:10
andrehey guys,  I just just updated my machine today witht he most recent updates and now one of my pieces of software won't run anymore!02:11
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mina_linux_TuxPriceChild: and must i put the module under /lib/modules/'uname -r '/kernel or /lib/modules/'uname -r '/kernel/drivers02:11
jribandre: which piece?  what version of ubuntu?02:11
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snowpunk98Can anyone tell me the name of a pdf printer02:11
snowpunk98so I can print to pdf from anything02:11
PriceChildmina_linux_Tux, I'm not sure what you're doing02:11
andrejrib: 6.10  and I'm trying to run urban terror02:11
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SlicerDicer-PriceChild: I honestly have done nothing to break it02:12
jribandre: what package is that in?02:12
TheMimicIf I'm buring an Ubuntu ISO, like Edgy, with say K3B, which writing mode do I use? DAO, TAO, RAW?02:12
SlicerDicer-so the best I can figure is OBLITERATE ;-)02:12
Epic720AdminI am getting an input/output error when trying to move a folder..... can anyone help?02:12
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mina_linux_TuxPriceChild: trying to load a touchscreen Driver in a form of krenel compiled module  check this Readme http://pastebin.ca/43549202:12
cblack0TheMimic, dao will work fine02:12
andrejrib: it's not in a package, http://www.urbanterror.net02:12
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TheMimicThank you!02:12
cblack0np02:12
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cyrillicubuntu's help on flash for 64 bit is a bit confusing.  will gnash actually work well?02:13
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jribandre: oh I see.  If you pastebin any errors you get when you try to run it from a terminal, someone may be able to help02:13
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mina_linux_TuxPriceChild: i'm really got tired from it , i'm on this channel for 4 days without any way to get it work on ubuntu 6.1002:13
jribcyrillic: no, not really02:13
clever[rev] Epic720Admin: having an input/output error on a folder is probly a bad sector on the harddrive02:13
cyrillicwhat is the answer, then?02:13
jribcyrillic: I use nspluginwrapper to run 32bit flash in my browser02:13
Epic720Adminclever[rev] : How do I fix it?02:13
cyrillicso if i just install nspluginwrapper with apt, it'll configure itself?02:14
clever[rev] Epic720Admin: bit complex02:14
jribcyrillic: it isn't in apt02:14
fougguys, my sound has constant static, i never had this problem when using windows. Any ideas or suggestions?02:14
mina_linux_TuxPriceChild: any comment ...?02:14
cyrillici'm noticing =/02:14
pkgravesGuys, can RSYNC back-up a file that is currently open/in-use?02:14
whteti am building a ssh replacement box, the old one store all the info in /etc/passwd without using /etc/shadow how can I work on it?02:14
Epic720Adminclever[rev] : it is on a mounted NTFS raid setup, using ntfs-3g02:14
cyrillicis there any solution that's in apt?02:14
cyrillicsuch as a 32 bit binary?02:14
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PriceChildmina_linux_Tux, reading, don't expect much02:15
jribcyrillic: installing a 32bit firefox probably, I don't know though, since I never did that02:15
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clever[rev] Epic720Admin: ahhh umount and fsck it using -c02:15
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pkgravesCan Someone please answer my Rsync question?02:15
cyrillichow would i tell apt to use 32 bit instead of 64 bit, though?02:15
Pelotjs from what I am reading on the ubuntu site  it leads me to beleive that it is not enable by default,02:15
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clever[rev] Epic720Admin: was thinking it was your rootfs which is more work02:15
snowpunk98Good PDF printer, can anyone recommend one?02:15
andrejrid:  it simply restarts the X server.02:15
PriceChildmina_linux_Tux, don't the instructions as printed work?02:15
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jribcyrillic: the restricted formats page links to some instructions02:16
Ollie|how can I change the root directory of apache from /var/www to /home/username/www/ ?02:16
Epic720Adminno, just an extended data raid02:16
clever[rev] Epic720Admin: running a winblows scandisk may do better02:16
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clever[rev] !ask02:16
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:16
cyrillicyou mean where it talks about a 32-bit chroot environment?02:16
jribcyrillic: yeah02:16
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mina_linux_TuxPriceChild: never, as there's no a /etc/rc.d/rc.local to insert the insmod instruction in it before the startx02:16
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Epic720Adminclever[rev] : could I do that with an install disk.... I don't have winblows on here02:16
clever[rev] Epic720Admin: ahhh try fsck -c on it first then02:17
clever[rev] Epic720Admin: not shure if fsck can handle ntfs yet though02:17
HOThey folks, if i have a dual cpu say a turion x2 do i have to compile a SMP kernel or will fiesty unstall by default and if so how can i tell?02:17
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mina_linux_TuxPriceChild: someone on this # , asked me to put the tkusb.ko in /lib/modules/'uname -r'02:17
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Epic720Adminclever[rev] : I can do that from here and be fine? Should I stop all services that might read from it.... like my web server>?02:17
matkamI have a ppc ubuntu server box. How can I run e2fsck+badblocks on the root partition?02:17
theonlyaltfoug: try searching the forums with the name of your sound card. and check back if you can't find anything.02:18
matkamthe server cd doesnt seem to have fsck or badblocks02:18
PeloHOT,   feisty questions should be directed to  #ubuntu+102:18
fougtheonlyalt: rgr thanks02:18
mina_linux_TuxPriceChild: but don't know what do after that , what's regarding the insmod, or depmod02:18
chili555HOT it willSMP by default and you tell by uname -a02:18
clever[rev] Epic720Admin: youll need to stop all access to it before you can umount02:18
Epic720Adminok02:18
Epic720AdminI will try that, thanks02:18
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clever[rev] !fsck > Epic720Admin02:18
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HOT2.6.20-14-generic #2 SMP, thats smp enabled i presume?02:19
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viohow can i retrive my minizime-tray ? managed to "remove it from panel" by accident02:19
arch|basspracticany ideas what would cause this?02:19
arch|basspractic17:29 <Postal_Fox> wouldnt be the first time i did for himi [2:FurNet (change with ^X)] 02:19
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arch|basspractic20:07  * Azurus nods.02:19
chili555HOT yup, u can also do cat /proc/cpuinfo to see if 2 cpus recognized02:19
arch|basspracticoh shit,02:19
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arch|basspracticgood job irssi02:19
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theonlyaltvio, which desktop?02:20
arch|basspracticwhat i meant was:02:20
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PriceChild!away > mon_away02:20
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HOTchili555, thanks muchly, good info02:20
arch|basspractichttp://paste.archwolf.net/16 <-- any ideas here?   running edgy LTS02:20
mina_linux_TuxPriceChild: .....?02:20
chili555welcome02:20
mon_awayfffffft02:20
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PriceChildmina_linux_Tux, I'm thinking... I'm really not the best guy to be talking about this. If I were you I would stick to instructions as close as possible02:20
HOTare bogomips actually a valid benchmark for testing?02:21
PriceChildmina_linux_Tux, we just need to figure out where the insmod needs to go instead02:21
casahi02:21
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chutiyahi aituhc02:22
chili555HOT i understand thet are stimates, hence the similarity to 'bogus'02:22
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mzuverinkwhats the addy for the ubuntu pastebin?02:22
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matkamsince i just have an ubuntu server cd, do i have to download ubuntu client to be able to run badblocks on my root partition?02:22
HOTallright thanks, never played with these turion cpus before, trying to work out what they have under the hood02:22
mzuverink!pastebin02:22
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:22
chutiyawhat is going on here?????????02:22
andrehey guys,  I just applied the most recent update and one of my pieces of software has stopped working.  It attempts to run and then causes X server to restart... can someon help?02:23
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iso_hello02:23
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Pelochutiya,  this is a support channel,  we support ppl02:23
chutiyathanks pelo!02:23
camer0ffpelo, can you help me?02:23
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Pelocamer0ff,  what is your issue ?02:23
chutiyawhat is yours pelo?02:24
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Ollie|Finally sorted my first linux install, Ubuntu server with LAMP setup, Midnight Commander, Proftp, PHPmyadmin and Webmin. Thanks for all the help guys :)02:24
camer0ffhaving a problem with printing to a printer shared on a windows pc02:24
camer0ffpelo, having a problem with printing to a printer shared on a windows pc02:24
chutiyayou are supposed to help... right?02:24
aituhcany body has any knowledge about sdk problems (mainly regarding installation of stellarium) in ubuntu02:24
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viotheonlyalt: my question: lost my minimize tray, gnome + compiz ^^, aiglx (offcoz)02:24
Pelocamer0ff,   I don'T know anything about that, I am sorry,  you can try looking in the forum or you might find something here   http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8402:25
pkgravesWhat happens if RSYNC attempts to copy a file that is currently open/in-use? I.E. If I have dir A and dir B, and I want to RSYNC all files in dir A to dir B, but one of the file sin dir A is currently in use... what would happen?02:25
camer0ffpelo, thanks.. do you know some one else who may be able to help?02:25
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chutiyai am having problems with AFS installation... can someone help?02:25
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andrehey guys,  I just applied the most recent update and one of my pieces of software has stopped working.  It attempts to run and then causes X server to restart... can someon help?02:25
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Pelocamer0ff,  the way this channel works is : you state your problem and if someone can help they will try to02:25
aituhcyes what is the actual problem?02:26
HOTpkgraves, im not totally sure about this but as rsync is a bit level copier it has no concept of a "locked" file02:26
camer0ffpelo, yeah... was hoping though :)02:26
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PriceChildmina_linux_Tux, I'm sorry my googling isn't turning anything up for me either :(02:26
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Pelocamer0ff,  bare in mind that everyone here are user/volunteers ,  and the crowd changes during the day, different skills become available at different times02:26
kev2Fedora vs ubuntu? plz give details in terms of opinion02:27
zero88anybody know of RubyGem?02:27
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Pelokev2,  this is a ubuntu channel , what do you think the opinion is going to be ?02:27
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viokev2: try #ubuntu-offtopic ubuntu rules ;)02:27
NessieLiberationfedora FTW02:27
NessieLiberation</joke>02:27
zPacKRatI would go with Fedora kev202:27
zues^63hey guys i am trying to open an ebook in lit format what program can i use to open it or convert it02:27
kev2pelo- for once i hope the opinion is unbiased02:28
HOTwell dont want to start a flame but i found fedoras device support badly lacking...02:28
MoneymoneymOOOONUbuntu question, Can I get 6.10 now and upgrade to 7 without getting another iso?02:28
GaiaX11kev2: ubunut = apt-get; Fedora = rpm. You choose what suites you better02:28
MoneymoneymOOOONover network or something02:28
NessieLiberationyes, but it'll use a lot of network02:28
vioMoneymoneymOOOON:  yes02:28
Pelozues^63,  search for your format in synaptic,  I am sure you'll get a load of packages listed, just read the description to know wich one you need02:28
PeloMoneymoneymOOOON,  yes02:29
kev2gaiax11- does that only means that one download stuff differently than others.02:29
theonlyaltMoneymoneymOOOON: once the update is released it'll show up in the update manager.02:29
MoneymoneymOOOONI have about 40gb of bandwidth a month and I get stuff at 600 kbs, so it shouldn't be painful02:29
zues^63ty pelo02:29
MoneymoneymOOOONalright thanks : )02:29
MoneymoneymOOOONI'll get 6.10 now and start settling in02:29
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zPacKRatkev2, I have had many broken packages with Fedora, wont touch it anymore.02:29
vioMoneymoneymOOOON: ubuntu (feisty fawn) 7.04 is really stable though, so i got 6.10 first then switched to 7.04 pretty quick02:29
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zPacKRatif you want RPM based then maybe CentOS is a better choice02:29
NessieLiberationwhen i installed i only had a 5.10 disk handy, and no blank CDs02:29
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HOTMoneymoneymOOOON; logically it cannot be more than 740MB download, thats the size of fiesty on CD02:29
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NessieLiberationso i decided to do 2 network upgrades in about 12 hours02:29
GaiaX11kev2: No. It means the way of downloading and installing.02:30
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MoneymoneymOOOONI guess this should be off topic, but should I head out for kubuntu or ubuntu?  I want performance and I like kopete, but I like everything else gnome...02:30
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kev2should i go with ubuntu? plz don't be biased b'cuz of the channel02:30
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nikinfor the lit format: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_lit what you think?02:30
mzuverinkwhat recommendations for an .avi to dvd program?  Currently trying mandvd, but its terribly slow.02:30
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MarcNkev2: yes.02:30
NessieLiberationthe last 2 upgrades were about 5-700MB02:30
viokev2:  #ubuntu-offtopic02:30
cyrillicdoes this bootstrap method of getting flash and firefox to work on 64 bit ubuntu work for 64 bit intel?02:30
kev2MarcN- okay02:30
NessieLiberationi tried Kubuntu, expecting to prefer it02:30
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zPacKRatkev2, Ubuntu is not as much a "development" platform as Fedora is so it should be more stable02:30
NessieLiberationbut didnt02:31
chili555MoneymoneymOOOON most kde apps will run in gnome, I esp love K3b02:31
MarcNkev2:  you didn't give any requirements, so ubuntu is a good of a distro as any to use.02:31
Jump86will easytag 2.0 be in feisty apt get?02:31
NessieLiberationi use amarok and konversation02:31
HOTagain just my opinion but in fiesty form kubuntu has some really bad issues, beryl is a nightmare to get going imo, i would give it a few more weeks to mature02:31
bruenig!info easytag feisty02:31
ubotueasytag: viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 788 kB, installed size 2552 kB02:31
PriceChild!offtopic02:31
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:31
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Jump86i currently cant install easytag 2.0 in edgy.. says i dont have a high enough version of glib02:31
snowpunk98I need to print a webpage to a PDF which application should I use?02:31
jribJump86: it is02:31
kev2zpackrat- is there any possible way to make ubuntu look like Mac os x or Vista with all the features?02:31
bruenigJump86, yes it will02:31
vioHOT: beryl is unstable try compiz ;)02:31
theonlyaltkev2:  dual boot and see for yourself, or get the live cd. in the mean tim #ubuntu-offtopic. they'll be happy to help.02:32
Jump86i need 2.0 of easytag to remove ape tags.. without that it messed up in rhytmbox02:32
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Jump86i guess ill wait for feisty, thanks02:32
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zPacKRatMac OS close, Vista? why would you do that It's linux02:32
pygo|lappyhow about getting VLC working through one of the package managers? It can't be found currently02:32
NessieLiberationvista is definately possible02:32
pygo|lappyIs it broken?02:32
zPacKRatthere is a screenshots thread at justlinux.com02:32
HOTvio: under vanilla fiesty beryl is proving very stable on the 2.01 release, thats just my experience though, under kubuntu it was locking all the time and debug showed nothing usefull, so i went back to gnome02:32
nikinJump: installing from source is not an option?02:32
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GaiaX11kev2: Go for ubuntu. When I started with linux I did in Red Hat and then Fedora after that I came to Debian and Ubuntu IMO they are the best at least for me02:33
NessieLiberationthere are many themes for beryl which look very similar02:33
jribpygo|lappy: it is in universe02:33
bruenigsh: lappy: not found02:33
bruenig/usr/local/bin/sources: line 17: echo: write error: Broken pipe02:33
bruenig/usr/local/bin/sources: line 20: echo: write error: Broken pipe02:33
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darxgreetings02:33
jrib!universe > pygo|lappy    (pygo|lappy, see the private message from ubotu)02:33
bruenighmmm02:33
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pygo|lappyjrib I'll have a look02:33
HOTpygo: you need to enable universe than sudo apt-get install vlc02:33
thesporecan someone help me get my usb wireless adapter to work? it connects to the network but i have no signal strength and no net access02:33
bruenigpygo, to add all the extra official repositories and install vlc, make sure synaptic, update-manager, or any other package managers are closed, open a terminal (applications>accessories>terminal) and copy and paste the following all at once:02:33
bruenigsudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/universe$/universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc02:33
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NessieLiberationi know more people switching from Suse/fedora to ubuntu than the other way around02:33
pygo|lappythanks all. :)02:33
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kev2zpakrat- it's actually my brothers computer and he wanted to wate money on vista i told hime i will install vista-like operating system -except it is more secure than Crappy vista02:34
Jump86when i control left click it makes little squares on the screen, anyone know what that is for?02:34
darxwhere can i find in depth documentation about ubuntu?02:34
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PeloNessieLiberation,  ppl are abandoning the suse /opensuse ship because of the MS deal,  don't know about Fedora02:34
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kev2chutiya- why such a name?02:34
MarcNJump86: selecting stuff on the desktop.02:34
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chili555thespore can u ping router? google?02:34
NessieLiberationPelo: the person i know who switched did so irrespectively of the MS deal02:34
euridesmailto:n=varkatop@p54a5f842.dip.t-dialin.net02:34
jk_fyi to all: the upgrade to fiesty beta ddescribed here: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu.html does work, but it took some hacking to get my machine back up and vmware took more hacking to get back up02:34
vio!wlan02:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:34
theonlyaltdarx:  wiki.ubuntu.com02:34
vio!wireless02:35
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:35
zPacKRatwhat does he need to do, if he is a gamer then stick with XP, vista = bloatware02:35
jk_it's not a painless upgrade, just so ya know02:35
Jump86MarcN, not that, but spinning squares.. its an animation that plays.. might be something w/ beryl02:35
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GaiaX11kev2: Go for ubuntu. When I started with linux I did in Red Hat and then Fedora after that I came to Debian and Ubuntu IMO they are the best at least for me02:35
SolitariusNessieLiberation: remembers that guy patrick- with his odd question?  The "(arg:1)" thing he was talking about was due to the readline capabilities of his bash shell!  Thanks to redendos from #bash, I've just learned it.02:35
invisiblemananyone here can send me compiz-settings_0.07-2_i386.deb02:35
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Pelolater folks02:35
nad__i find that when i log into X with the xgl server none of my keybindings work unless I have caps and num lock on02:35
zero88what is the name of mysql in apt-get?02:35
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pirothezeroanyone know how I can tell gnome to default screen orientation to left? Everytime i reboot it goes back to normal and I am running portrait mode?02:35
nad__anyone else have this problem?02:35
NessieLiberationSolitarius: go ahead02:35
darxtheonlyalt: its not indepth enough..i've been searching all over to fix speedstep issues on my laptop.02:35
kev2zpackrat- just a leecher who doesn't use computer for more than office or messenging.02:35
MarcNzero88: apt-cache search mysql   gives the answer02:35
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mjrzero88, apt-cache search mysql02:36
GaiaX11zPacKRat: kev2 /join #ubuntu-offtopic02:36
zero88kool thanks guys02:36
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Benny_132anybody here install the Feisty beta on a mac book pro02:36
NessieLiberationi know what happens, i just dont know what the args are used for02:36
nikinJump86, easytag 2 is not installable from source?02:36
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zPacKRatdinnertime02:37
kev2zpackrat- he had been using pirated copy of vista but due to the wga, he cannot install security updates and thereby have OS with a big hole- since it already came with small holes.02:37
Jump86nikin, nope i get an error after i ./configure.. it says configure: error: *** GLIB >= 2.4.1 not installed! ***02:37
francoisi try running a basic hello world program in02:37
francoisC and it doens't work, any help ?02:37
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jribfrancois: how exactly are you trying?02:37
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nikinGLIB is not installable?02:37
GeneralmozamotaOk, I have a biting problem i cannot solve with wireless networking02:38
Jump86nikin, and then if i try to make it says make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.02:38
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francoisjrib: i wrote a simply hello program, and then typed gcc -o hello hello.c02:38
francoisjrib: and i get a bunch of errors,02:38
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jribfrancois: pastebin your hello.c and the errors02:38
jk_General: and it is ?02:38
denniston1hi, I'm new to ubuntu, and I'm trying to install a package, and I'm getting an error could someone look at my terminal log http://rafb.net/p/pZ8R0u51.html02:38
zero88do i need binaries for mysql?02:38
zilly6_francois try just gcc hello.c02:38
nikinJump86, i see...02:38
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Generalmozamotai have a dell 1450 wireless usb adapter, and cannot find any drivers for it to use wrapper02:39
MarcNzero88: what are you trying to do with mysql?   Server? client?02:39
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theonlyaltdarx: I'd try to get a hold of the developers.02:39
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darxtheonlyalt: i'll try that suggestion.. thanks02:39
zero88marcn im testing my widnows boxes with MetsSploit3 and i need a database02:39
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HOTunder suse 10.2 if i did " mount -t xfs \\someip\share \mnt\nas" that worked fine for me, in ubuntu i get mount: special device //192.168.1.101/share does not exist, am i missing something here?02:39
HOT02:39
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Epic720Adminok, assuming the bad sectors, how do I check my ntfs-3g raided drives?02:40
ardchoilleIS the Ubuntu kernel optimised for Pentium cpu's?02:40
Epic720Admintyped mount and it read: /dev/mapper/pdc_bgbcbjddd1 on /media/Music type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other)02:40
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MarcNzero88: don't know what metsploit is, but to install a mysql server, apt-get install mysql-server02:40
mindstateim having some trouble install llibsdl1.2-dev .. i get this error when trying to apt-get The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libsdl1.2-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or libglu-dev, could someone please help me, im not sure how to fix this issue02:40
andreHey guys, I just updated the most recent updates, and it asked me to reboot.  upon rebooting one of my software stopped working, it restarts X server to be more precise.  can anyone help?02:40
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MarcNandre what software?02:40
jk_General: well, your first step is finding the driver for your wireless adaptor that's for certain02:40
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zero88marcn what about the client?02:41
francoisjrib: theres a bunch of weird query errors from pastebin.com....got another pastebin i can use ?02:41
andreMarcN: ioquake3, or both urban terror and world of padman to be more precise.02:41
Generalmozamotajk, i've been trying to look for one for about a week, am I retarded or something?02:41
jribfrancois: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:41
MarcNzero88: then install mysql-client and you'l get the command line interface.02:41
thesporei can't get my wireless connection to work.. i'm using a belkin 802.11g usb adapter .. ifconfig shows wlan0, but if i type ifup wlan0 it says no such device.. if i do ifup ath0 it spits a bunch of errors02:41
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zero88marcn ok im downloading both02:41
MarcNandre: games? piffle.02:41
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andreMarcN:  is ubuntu not trying to capture the desktop market?02:42
chili555thespore what does iwconfig show?02:42
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MarcNandre: I don't play PC games.  Never have.02:42
francoisjrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15146/02:42
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thesporechili555, shows the essid, the AP's mac address.. everything looks fine there02:43
jribfrancois: "#include" not "#includ" :)02:43
zilly6_francois you need to type include02:43
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snowpunk98Can someone tell me an easy way to print to a PDF file like a program I can get through apt-get?02:43
Benny_132anybody here install the Feisty beta on a mac book pro02:43
zilly6_snowpunk98 just click print to file02:43
chili555thespore as wlan0?02:43
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HOTsnowpunk98: Openoffice exports pdf02:43
thesporechili555, yes02:43
kev2chutiya: what are u been up to?02:43
andreMarcN:  it'd still be nice to find out why an update killed my ability to run my software02:43
jribfrancois: there is also another bug in your program, it's "hello world", not "hwllo world"02:43
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jk_General: googling doesn't look promising .. "The only problem was wireless: there aren't any linux drivers for the Dell 1450 miniPCI card (that I can find anyway). D'oh!"02:43
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zilly6_snowpunk98 that produces a ps, then do ps2pdf filename02:44
chili555thespore and sudo dhclient wlan0 does what?02:44
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thesporechili555, oh wait.. it says Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 .. is that normal?02:44
MarcoPotisera02:44
gilswhat is the best way to connect remotely from windows using SSH? putty?02:44
GeneralmozamotaYeah, so I have no idea what to do jk_02:44
MarcNandre: Are they closed source games?  Hard to tell, but I'd guess it is related to use of OpenGL.  That seems to be the most fragile part of X02:44
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duelbootjk_, linuxant's driverloader may be able to do it, but it's not free02:44
NessieLiberationgils: easiest... putty02:44
thornomadHello everyone, I had a quick question: if I create a separate partition for /home ... and then I reinstall ubuntu (not formatting the /home partition) but create the same username I had previously on the re-install ... will ubuntu erase my home folder ?  Or will it leave it alone and things will be as they were (sort of) before the reinstall ?02:44
NessieLiberationbut not really the best02:44
francoisjrib: ok, lol so i fixed that, i still get this error : hello.c: In function main:02:44
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chili555thespore yes until it connects02:44
francoishello.c:5: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function exit02:44
mindstateim having some trouble install llibsdl1.2-dev .. i get this error when trying to apt-get The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libsdl1.2-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or libglu-dev, could someone please help me, im not sure how to fix this issue02:44
HOTgils: putty works great for me, supports X forwarding as well, that or use VNC if you need GUI02:45
gilsok, i want a command line non GUI accesss to ssh server from windows02:45
thesporechili555, tries the DHCPDISCOVER and then fails02:45
andreMarcN:  No quake 3 engine is GPL,   Perhaps a reinstallation of my graphics drivers are in order?02:45
MarcNgils: install cygwin02:45
thesporechili555, No DHCPOFFERS received02:45
snowpunk98Thanks ill check that out in a minute02:45
zilly6_thornomad you'll need to mount that old home folder02:45
jk_General: http://www.google.com/search?q=ndiswrapper+dell+1450+linux ?02:45
jribfrancois: exit is in stdlib.h02:45
HOTgils: putty is the answer, awesome little stand alone app, runs off a usb drive if needed02:45
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rabrichutiya are you there02:45
chili555thespore r u sure ap MAC and essid r correct? did u iwlist wlan0 scan?02:45
zilly6_thornomad figure out what partition it's on, and put it in fstab02:46
adsims2001I agree, no need to install all of cygwin if all you need is ssh02:46
chutiyayeah rabri02:46
thesporechili555, DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 702:46
thornomad zilly6_, okay ... but if I specify during install to mount /home in the old /home partition and I don't tell it to format it ... then, will everything remain ?02:46
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jribfrancois: for the record all my hello worlds just do return 0; instead of exiting.  But ##c is probably a better place to go from here02:46
gilsok putty it is....thanks all02:46
chili555the spore OK02:46
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vebhey, I have a problem, for some reason on my box I can't view a particular website, I can ping it fine, and my friend on the same ISP and DNS servers, it works for him too, but doesn't for me02:46
snowpunk98Thanks that worked02:46
dibblego!xinerama02:46
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead02:46
vebalso, on my windows box, it doesn't either? :s02:46
francoisjrib: you are god, and if you ever need someone beaten up please let me know, lol :)02:46
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zilly6_thornomad can you spedify a home folder during install?02:46
adsims2001try accessing it directly through it's server's IP address02:46
zilly6_francois what about me?02:46
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MarcNgils: putty is a gui, cygwin is a bunch of unix apps ported to windows so you get ssh, rsync, etc all the command line stuff you need.  Also X11 is available.  Makes Windows almost comfortable.02:46
thesporechili555, yeah scan shows signal level=(-138dBm) Noise level=(-160dBm)02:46
adsims2001you can find it with dns tools02:46
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francoiszilly6_: your good too, lol, just not as fast, hahaha02:47
adsims2001or tracert02:47
adsims2001i think02:47
vebi did02:47
thornomadzilly6_, okay, I could do that too.  thanks.  I just didn't know if it would create a new/second /home/thornomad folder for me automatically instead of keeping my old one and using that.  i think i can specify where to mount /home during install ... not the /home/username portion though.02:47
jk_veb: try a different DNS server02:47
rabrianybody have any idea regarding sdk problems in ubuntu (related to stellarium)02:47
vebits not DNS servers02:47
vebit's somehow my network02:47
jribfrancois: haha ok :)  If you install 'manpages-dev', you'll get man pages for a lot of C functions.  For example, you could have done 'man 3 exit'02:47
vebi know 3-4 other people using same DNS and it works02:47
chili555thespore r the essid and MAC address the exact same as iwconfig?02:47
jk_ok well traceroute it, netstat it and see where the issue is02:47
gilsMarcN: great thats what i was wondering02:47
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francoisjrib: whats the 3 ?02:47
GeneralmozamotaI don't think i'll ever get this stupid thing working02:47
vebok jk02:47
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zilly6_thornomad, personally i would just do the install, and modify fstab after the install is complete02:47
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gilscygwin, will look for it now02:47
HOTveb: are you getting anything at all, like a 404 or does it just "hang" ?02:48
gilsthanks a bunch02:48
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jk_General: if there's no (free) driver for it then ... well ..02:48
vebI get a hang02:48
MarcNgils: i really recommend cywgin if you have to use windows.  sshd is also available so you can ssh to windows.02:48
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thesporechili555, uhmm no...02:48
jk_General: at some point, we have drivers because folks like you with missing drivers wrote them02:48
gilsright02:48
zilly6_jk_ how do you write a driver?02:48
chutiyahey, can anyone tell me how can I hack widows frrom ubuntu?02:48
thornomadzilly6_, okay, then i would have to go ahead and reassign the home folder using usermod ?  and then, I suppose remove the /home folder that was created by default with the installation ?  yea, could try that. thanks02:48
Generalmozamotajk_ do you have any suggestions for other cheap wireless devices that are actually supported?02:48
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HOTgils: i always check with lynx before i go on a mad diagnosis just to see if its anything silly "lynx www.example.com" from the command line02:48
HOTyou might have to install lynx02:49
kristjanshello. does02:49
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jk_zilly6: you look at the linux source code and start there02:49
zilly6_thornomad, no need for usermod02:49
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gilsright02:49
vebHOT, i get a hang02:49
zilly6_thornomad no need for removal either, you need02:49
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HOTwith lynx?02:49
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kristjansdoes anyone know a reason for why the gnome's window borders got huge after restart?02:49
chili555thespore iwconfig wlan0 ap <MAC address> then iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid> then sudo dhclient wlan002:49
gilsi am looking at cygwin.....looks great02:49
vebshit, sorry, i02:49
vebi have it02:49
gilswill get that going02:49
vebsec02:49
jk_General: start with your hardware and google and work backwards02:49
thornomadzilly6_ ... oh, I guess just reassign where it mounts ?02:49
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chutiyahey, can anyone tell me how can I hack widows frrom ubuntu?02:49
gilsthanks boys/girls02:49
gilsmuch appreciated02:49
gilsgood night02:49
NessieLiberationgils: cygwin is a nuisance sometimes02:49
zilly6_thornomad that's all you need pretty much02:49
thesporechili555, put in the mac address of the router?02:49
chutiyagils... not girl here02:49
jk_chutiya: try "man mount"02:50
NessieLiberationit ran/run it a lot02:50
adsims2001Hey all, i'm running eft right now and I can't get my surround sound to work. I have an onboard Realtek ALC655. I already tried to compile the alsa drivers from Realtek's site, but that just screwed up the partially working drivers that came with Eft. Long story short, I just want to try Feisty and see if that works better. Has anyone had good experiences with surround in Feisty's beta?02:50
NessieLiberationbut it does strange things a lot02:50
NessieLiberationand is very hefty02:50
chutiyaman mount... what does it mount on?02:50
chili555thespore u dont have to give us 23 lines, just 'connected' or 'timed out'02:50
Generalmozamotai've been googling for far too long to solve this problem by that simple fix, what I need to do is just get a new wireless receiver02:50
chili555thespore yessir02:50
gilsNessie: thanks of the heads up02:50
jk_you'd want to mount win drive02:50
gilslater02:50
thesporechili555, okay right back02:50
NessieLiberationfor ssh, i prefer putty02:50
HOTadsims2001: i thinl thats exactly what im using, let me check...02:50
jk_General: if it's not supported that might be your best bet02:50
chutiyabut... i want to *hack* a remote windows machine...02:50
thornomadzilly6_, okay thanks. appreciate it.  i will give it a shot.  take care.02:50
GeneralmozamotaDo you have any suggestions jk?02:51
adsims2001Thanks, HOT.02:51
zilly6_thornamod you too02:51
jk_chutiya: define "hack"02:51
NessieLiberationi keep it running on 1 machine, as it's effectively a win^nix server02:51
jk_General: you on a laptop?02:51
Generalmozamotadesktop02:51
chutiyato *hack inside*.....02:51
voidmageHow can I find out what process is locking a file?02:51
HOTadsims2001: my mixer is Realtek ACL883 (OSS Mixer) , not exactly what you have but its working fine for me02:51
chutiyai am a newbiw, plz help02:51
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jk_General: not really.  you just need a supported card02:51
matkamhow can i run fsck -c on my root partition?02:51
voidmagedebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable02:51
jk_chutiya: try google02:51
jribvoidmage: fuser or lsof maybe02:51
chutiyajk_: supported card?02:51
vebHOT, "Making HTTP connection...02:51
adsims2001i'll look around for some other drivers for general realtek stuff then02:51
vebhang02:51
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coachhi@all02:52
chutiyagoogle isn't helpful i tried, all high-level....02:52
coachi've got a problem with wine@amd6402:52
GaiaX11chutiya: How to "hack outside" then? :-)02:52
jk_chutiya: seriously, read up on the "mount" command02:52
coachi installed it with --force-architecture02:52
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jk_go read the man page on "mount"02:52
coachbut he sais no such file or dir02:52
HOTveb: can you ping it?02:52
vebim doing a tracert now02:52
zilly6_is feisty gonna have good smp support?02:52
chutiyaok... here i read... should i read it out loud?02:52
jribcoach: have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64 ?02:53
vebthere seems to be *** at hop 102:53
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vebthen * * * after hop 1402:53
zero88how do you create users and passwords for Mysql?02:53
chutiyasorry jk_: No manual entry for mount02:53
ParisiHello02:53
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HOTzilly6_: funny you should ask, i just installed on a turion x2 and its picked up a SMP kernel for me and everything seems fine02:53
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voidmagejrib: thanks, that worked02:53
jk_General: good luck.  unsupported hardware is frustrating, but hardware only gets supported because people support it02:53
voidmagehad to kill -9 that02:53
voidmagebut there we go02:53
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rabrihi chutiya02:53
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chutiyahi rabri02:53
vebi thought it was a ubuntu dns thing, howerver, it's exactly the same on my windows laptop ;s02:54
rabriI think mount is quite difficult for newbies02:54
chutiyajk_: No manual entry for mount02:54
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rabrican you try something which is basic02:54
chutiyajk_: ????02:54
zilly6_HOT nice, i'm getting the X2 in a new dell soon02:54
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chutiyawhat kinda basic....02:54
chutiya?????02:54
jk_chutiya: google --> http://www.techonthenet.com/linux/mount.php02:54
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rabrilike you can start reading from some good book02:54
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ayLaNuRselam02:54
thesporechili555, didn't work02:54
zilly6_HOT this will be my first dual core and 64 bit, are there things i need to do differently or pay attention to with ubuntu or linux in general?02:55
theonlyaltchili555: I'm having the same problem as thespore. Iwconfig shows the right info, but I don't get any DHCP offers when I run dhclient for wlan002:55
nikinveb: did you try tcptraceroute?02:55
chutiyarabri: can you recommend some good book.02:55
HOTzilly6_: i didnt have to do anything, i just installed and got  2.6.20-14-generic #2 SMP kernel by default02:55
rabrisumitabha das can be good book to start with02:55
cordenanybody who is using sony ericsson mobile phone as modem to connect to the internet via ubuntu?02:55
chutiyarabri: i hate INDIANS02:55
chili555thespore when u scan, any encryption at router? WEP? WPA? Romulan?02:56
thesporechili555, no encryption02:56
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thesporechili555, scan shows no encryption02:56
rabrihmm02:56
zilly6_HOT how about with applications in general02:56
goldbondi am trying to set up my network using samba. i hope to add windows machines, but right now i am trying to get two ubuntu machines to communicate. i have gone through several tutorials, but cannot read files on the other computer although i can see it. i get the error message "sorry cannot display all files". does anyone know what is wrong?02:56
odathello everyone02:56
odatanyone able to compile a module?02:56
chutiyajk_: but i don wanna do nething with file system/whatever02:56
thesporechili555, just noticed wlan0:ava in ifconfig now shows 169.254.2.231 for ip..02:56
chili555thespore: that just means no external connection02:57
jk_chutiya: it's all there02:57
thesporechili555, okay02:57
chutiyajk_: and it seems challanging02:57
chutiya  To mount a Windows file system from Linux can be a challenging task.02:57
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jk_chutiya: "hacking *inside* the windows box" is a great challenge and deep mystery02:57
HOTzilly6_: broadly speaking linux is SMP aware, so i can watch CPU threading all the time without any specific application support, im not an expert but from what i understand all apps "support" SMP, i tihnk the only decision you need to make is fiesty 32 or 64, i went with 32 for now just to be safe02:57
odatanyone able to compile a module?02:57
goldbondthis is my samba config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15147/02:58
chili555thespore: not using NetworkMangler, i hope02:58
chutiyajk_: and thats why i wanna learn it!02:58
thesporei have no idea02:58
GaiaX11chutiya: rabri Stop the childish in this channel! It is not a place for this. chutiya - stop saying that you hate people! The world is already full of violence. Go for /join ubuntu-offtopic02:58
jk_odat: ./configure and make ?02:58
zilly6_HOT why 32?02:58
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thesporechili555, how do i find out?02:58
chutiyaGaiaX11: am sorry if i hurt you02:58
Pelo!update > pelo02:58
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chutiyai didn't mean to, though02:58
cordenis there any dial-up program that don't requires me to type username and password? i want to try my se k610i  as modem in ubuntu. I alrady did this on XP.02:58
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_nnx_For the kernel upgrade that came out today, for Edgy, will I need to do something special to upgrade my nVidia drivers, as well?  They aren't mentioned in the list of packages to upgrade.02:59
chutiyabut i seriously hate bloodddy indians02:59
cordenjust the dial number02:59
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HOTzilly6_: good question :) , i think i was just paranoid from getting stung with windows, if i get round to it i will reinstall with 64 bit02:59
chili555thespore: it shows as a whirly gizmo in your panel02:59
HOTanyone else running 64 bit and can offer feedback?02:59
thesporewhirly gizmo? no..02:59
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odatjk_, its the vicam module i can't seem to figure out how it looks more like a kernel patch03:00
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chutiyajk_: ????03:00
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zilly6_HOT that's funny, i read a lot about how windows is no where close to linux in 64 support. it's like the most prominent reason to use linux03:00
thesporechili555, i removed it with apt and i got a message saying network manager cannot continue.. so apparently it was running03:00
dibblegoI am trying to run an ATI x550 Radeon with dual head; the mouse pointer on the second display is a large square, however, if I set "Composite" "0" as an Extension, I am fine; but then, if I set Option "Xinerama", I am back to the same problem - am I on my own?03:00
InFluxHi, I have a small problem. I just installed some updates, and .11 kernel was installed, however X will not load. It comes up with this bluescreen that states "no screen found". Anyone have any ideas.03:01
InFlux?03:01
chili555thespore: is dhcdbd also installed? pls remove03:01
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cordenanybody know how to access dial-up connection without typing the username and password, just the dial-up number03:01
zilly6_InFlux the kernel header updates?03:01
jk_odat: ah, is it part of the kernel?03:01
HOTzilly6_: agreed, altough you have to ask yourself what you are gaining with 64bit, i cant break the 4GB block on my home pc anyway, but at work i run Sun Grid over a RHEL4 cluster and we only use 64bit, never had a single compatability problem03:01
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jk_odat: i'm not familiar.  you might have to rebuild your kernel (possibly)03:01
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jk_zilly6: that article "30 days with linux" was pretty damning of linux 64 bit support03:02
HOTzilly6_: on balance i would go for 64 bit and test it if your doing a new install03:02
odatjk_ it is currently in the kernel but this patch enables the automatic gamma control03:02
zilly6_HOT speed maybe? again i'm new to 64/2core03:02
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zilly6_jk_ 30 days with linux?03:02
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GaiaX11jk_: Where is the article?03:02
zilly6_was it biased?03:02
jk_odat: sounds like you have to patch your kernel & recompile it03:02
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InFluxzilly: I'm not sure. The updates icon stated I had updates, I installed them and it installed a kernel update from .10 to .11.03:02
jk_zilly: no03:03
ll_HELL_llhi jk_03:03
chili555thespore: i would restart networking now sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart03:03
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jk_zilly: http://consumer.hardocp.com/article.html.  see "the ugly"03:03
BagoorI need a urgent help. Is there anyone here from Georgia Tech ? If yes, please PM me. (Also excuse me for this non-related message)03:03
thesporechili555, alright03:03
bruenigBagoor, narrow net there03:03
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HOTzilly6_: i think its a question of try it and see for now, we use 64bit at work because our cluster nodes have 32GB of RAM each, but that was the only factor for going 64bit03:03
odatjk_ have a look  http://arron.dnip.net:81/files/vicam.c-2.6.16-agc-Nikolov03:04
thesporechili555, failed to bring up ath003:04
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zilly6_HOT sounds good03:04
chili555thespore: and wlan0?03:04
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jk_zilly: sorry that was a bad link: http://consumer.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTI5OCwxMSwsaGNvbnN1bWVy03:04
thesporechili555, ifconfig shows my wlan0 connection03:04
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zilly6_this kernel update problem seems popular today, i just installed the updates and am afraid of restarting03:04
Bagoorbruenig, ?03:04
jk_odat : looking ...03:04
zilly6_how do you roll back an update?03:04
chili555thespore: with an IP address???03:05
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thesporechili555, says wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 00103:05
Arrick!samba03:05
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:05
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_nnx_Does anyone here know anything about the recent kernel upgrade for Edgy (2.6.17-11)?03:05
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thesporechili555, wlan0:ava still has that 169 ip.. wlan0 has the right info03:05
_nnx_zilly6_: So far as I know you can't.03:05
h3h_timohey guys, is there any reason why i shouldnt be able to install amarok??03:05
trev_does anyone know what monitor color temperature Ubuntu is optimised for use with?03:05
cordenanybody know how to access dial-up connection without typing the username and password, just the dial-up number03:05
bruenigh3h_timo, sudo apt-get install amarok03:05
HOTh3h_timo: not that i know of03:05
_nnx_zilly6_: I guess you could totally uninstall the package, then get an old version and install it.03:05
jribh3h_timo: do you get errors when you try?03:06
goldbondi am trying to set up my network using samba. i hope to add windows machines, but right now i am trying to get two ubuntu machines to communicate. i have gone through several tutorials, but cannot read files on the other computer although i can see it. i get the error message "sorry cannot display all files". does anyone know what is wrong?03:06
zilly6__nnx_ well i meant for these kernel update problems people are having03:06
chili555thespore: wlan0 has an address on your network??03:06
zilly6_and i might have03:06
goldbondthis is my samba config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15147/03:06
HOTgoldbond: for nix to nix machines NFS is prefered03:06
_nnx_zilly6_: Are you having a problem right now?03:06
thesporechili555, yes but i think it got manually assigned somehow, cause it's .1.111 and i know dhcp would't have assigned that03:07
h3h_timobruenig, HOT , jrib, it just cant find amarok03:07
h3h_timoeven after i apt-get update03:07
bruenig!info amarok03:07
ubotuamarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 14370 kB, installed size 31288 kB03:07
goldbondhot, yes but i want to add windows machines to the network03:07
jribh3h_timo: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list03:07
bruenigh3h_timo, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list03:07
bruenig!paste03:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:07
HOTh3h_timo: do you have universe enabled?03:07
bruenigHOT, it is in main03:07
HOToh my bad03:07
chili555thespore why? can u ping router? ping google?03:07
goldbondhot: is it much better to set up two networks?03:07
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Arrickok, whats the name of the file again to edit the dns of a ubuntu server from terminal?03:07
odatjk_,   ?03:08
thesporechili555, can't ping router says destination host unreachable03:08
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jk_odat: looking ...03:08
h3h_timohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15148/03:08
NessieLiberation /etc/resolv.conf03:08
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NessieLiberationthis one?03:08
thesporechili555, i set it manually in system->adminstration->network earlier03:08
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ardchoilleHow do I get the right-click context menu to popup via the keyboard?03:08
h3h_timoHOT, jrib , bruenig , did you get that?03:08
Arrickis that for me NessieLiberation ?03:08
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NessieLiberationArrick, yes03:08
Arrickok thanks03:09
zilly6__nnx_ not right now, but other people are like InFlux03:09
Stevewabc_Laptopgoldbond, here http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10 works well and is a easy howto03:09
zilly6_i have restarted yet03:09
goldbondthanks03:09
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chili555thespore: hard to know definately if u r connected with static. can u pls change back to dhcp?03:09
jribh3h_timo: pastebin the output of:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install amarok03:09
bruenigh3h_timo, check the command, sudo apt-get install amarok (make sure you aren't misspelling)03:09
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duelbootArrick, How's the business?03:09
InFluxZilly, did I miss something?03:09
Arrickduelboot, very well03:09
chili555thespore  put in correct essid when u r in there03:10
thesporechili555, okay now i've got wlan0 which doesn't have any ip info.. wlan0:ava which has the 169 ip, and wmaster0 which has the .1.111 ip03:10
_nnx_zilly6_: Well, if it were me?  I wouldn't worry too much about it.03:10
jk_odat: ok so http://arron.dnip.net:81/files/vicam.c-2.6.16-agc-Nikolov is an updated version of vicam.c in the linux source ?03:10
Arricksites not much better yet though, I did change to a apache2 server duelboot03:10
HOTgoldbond: typically you would connect to a samba share like this " ount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword"03:10
duelbootsweet, Arrick03:10
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chili555thespore  did you put in correct essid when u r in there03:10
zilly6__nnx_ time to give it a shot03:10
_nnx_zilly6_: Kernel problems are the sort of thing that can hose one person but completely untouch another.03:10
Arrickcheck it out, if you remember the address duelboot03:10
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Stevewabc_Laptopgoldbond, that is what your tring to do corect?03:10
Arrickduelboot, pm03:10
HOTnow i know that looks a bit crazy, but if you look at it is pretty straight forward03:10
thesporechili555, yeah there's another connection (wmaster0) now that's not configured03:10
zilly6_bruenig the uTorrent was great, thanks03:10
goldbondsteveabc_laptop: no03:11
thesporechili555, should i configure that one too?03:11
odatjk, yup it enables automatic gamma control03:11
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duelbootArrick, I setup a family website using LAMP with Ubuntu of course, but it's password protected and uses SSL...pretty cool03:11
linux_kidHow do I configure bcm43xx to be faster ?|?|?03:11
goldbondsteveabc_laptop: i have two ubuntu computers i want to add to my roomate's network03:11
chili555thespore no, leave it alone, but make it dhcp if u can03:11
goldbondhot: how can i use the ubuntu gui?03:11
_nnx_zilly6_: I'd only personally be concerned if there was evidence of file system or hardware damage, or it was a mission critical system.  But if it was the last you shouldn't be upgrading the kernel right away anyway.03:11
InFluxnnx: Software update updated my kernel to 2.6.17.11 and X will not start. It states "Screen Not Found". However, .10 works just fine.03:11
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h3h_timojrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15149/03:11
jk_odat: ok, the direction i'd be looking is to grab the linux source code and make sure you can compile it with the vicam module. then copy over the newer code from http://arron.dnip.net:81/files/vicam.c-2.6.16-agc-Nikolov and recompile03:11
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HOTgoldbond: go to "places" > "network"03:11
_nnx_InFlux: Do you have nVidia drivers?03:12
HOTthen click around a bit :)03:12
Arrickcool duelboot03:12
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zilly6__nnx_ thanks03:12
goldbondhot: yes i opened that and i can see the computers03:12
bruenigh3h_timo, that is a crazy mess03:12
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odatjk, sheesh that seems like alot of work i'm not that versed with linux yet to do something like that03:12
thesporechili555, okay well i brought wlan0 down and back up and now that wlan0:ava is gone03:12
jk_if you get the linux source to match your running kernel, and build the vicam.c module against that you should be able to "make modules" then copy the module into your /lib/modules folder and modprobe it in03:12
h3h_timobruenig, basically its not updating right03:12
odatjk, is there anyway to make a patch for the current module?03:12
h3h_timoi keep having problems updating03:12
HOTgoldbond: good, have you set up shares on the windows machines?03:13
InFluxnnx: Yes, I sure do. It does stated that the Nvidia module was not loaded. It's very strange.03:13
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goldbondhot: however when i try to access the remote one i get the message "sorry couldn't display all the contents..."03:13
jk_odat: i don't know an easier way other than google like hell to find a compiled version03:13
chili555thespore ok fine03:13
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bruenigh3h_timo, it is not updating right in 100 different ways03:13
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thesporechili555, well now it's back up.. lol03:13
goldbondhot: no i am starting with the two ubuntu computers03:13
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h3h_timobruenig, why would it not be updating right??03:13
thesporechili555, i don't know what wmaster0 hs that .1.111 that's what i had hardcoded in03:13
HOTgoldbond: so are you looking at another linux box or a windows box?03:13
bruenigh3h_timo, you have some serious apt problems there03:13
jk_odat: well, you have to compile it03:13
goldbondhot: another linux box03:14
bruenigh3h_timo, not sure how to fix that03:14
h3h_timobruenig, its an almost fresh install03:14
_nnx_InFlux: The upgrade hosed the module.  That's what happened.  You're going to need to either upgrade the driver, roll back the kernel version (if you can - I wouldn't recommend it), or wait for them to update the kernel module, if that'll end up coming up in package update.03:14
chili555thespore change it to dhcp, too03:14
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bruenigh3h_timo, could be all your third party repos, probably not though03:14
jribh3h_timo: how do you connect to the internet?03:14
odatjk_, would someone else be able to compile it then release the updated module?03:14
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_nnx_InFlux: You can also temporarily switch over to the standard driver.03:14
thesporechili555, in the adminstration->network dialog?03:14
HOTgoldbond: ok make a folder inside your home directory called test, then right click and do share, then refresh the network view03:14
chili555thespore yes03:14
h3h_timojrib, im at school03:14
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thesporechili555, it won't let me switch to dhcp unless i put the ssid in too03:14
jk_odat: you could try firing off an email to the 4 guys listed on top there if you don't want to build it yourself.  worth a shot03:14
_nnx_InFlux: Unfortunately I don't recall off of the top of my head how to do that.  You'd probably end up modifying XF86Config, or whatever they're calling it these days under X.org.03:14
h3h_timojrib, i live on campus03:15
goldbondhot: on the local computer?03:15
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chili555thespore go right ahead!03:15
goldbondhot: i have already shared a folder on each computer03:15
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jk_i personally would just build it the way i described but it's a process03:15
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chili555thespore the exact correct one from scan03:15
InFluxnnx: It's all good. I am running .10 right now and it's running ok, :)03:15
systemd0wnanyone have a quick recommendation for re-sizing my ubuntu partition?  GUI would be nice.  Want to play with another OS.03:15
jribh3h_timo: can you view 91.189.88.31 in your browser?03:15
HOTgoldbond: and when you double click the machine in network view it says no visible? , do you have a firewall running?03:15
bruenigsystemd0wn, gparted03:15
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_nnx_systemd0wn: I think gparted can do that, but I've never tried it, so YMMV.03:16
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bruenigsystemd0wn, you are going to have to do it in live cd though if it is your root partition03:16
exsIs there a tutorial to setup my ubuntu edgy for a simple http/ftp server?03:16
thesporechili555, with the quotes?03:16
aussieaubsplenty - go to google03:16
systemd0wnbruenig, _nnx_, thanks.03:16
jk_exs: install it, then install apache and enable ftp :)03:16
h3h_timojrib, yep03:16
bruenig!ftpd03:16
ubotuFTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP03:16
h3h_timoshows index03:16
h3h_timoof /03:16
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exsjk_:  install what?03:16
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chili555thespore no quotes unless there is a spcace in it03:16
chili555thespore make all interfaces match03:17
thesporeokay then both wireless connections are configured in the network settings dialog, essid is right and address set to dhcp03:17
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thesporechili555, wmaster0 still shows the .1.111 address though in ifconfig03:17
jk_exs: well, you need ubuntu running on the box.  apache is as easy as #aptitude install apache2 ...03:17
chili555thespore sudo dhclient wlan003:18
zilly6__nnx_ looks like is well03:18
jk_exs: or just use the synaptic gui to install it03:18
jribh3h_timo: does your browser use a proxy possibly?03:18
h3h_timojrib, nope03:18
_nnx_zilly6_: Excellent.03:18
exsjk_:  yeah im doing that03:18
_nnx_InFlux: I would, after a cursory glance at the package lists...03:18
ZambeziIs there an application like nano with a possibilty to print? (Not using X)?03:18
zilly6_when's feisty launching?03:19
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_nnx_InFlux: Try -> sudo apt-get upgrade nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev nvidia-kernel-commonnvidia-kernel-source nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig03:19
Zambezizilly6_, 19/403:19
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HOTi should really put up that IPV6 fix for firefox on the tips and tricks but then i have to register on the forums..so much work.03:19
thesporechili555, no dhcpoffers received03:19
jk_exs: ok you're 90% there03:19
_nnx_InFlux: Try -> sudo apt-get upgrade nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig03:19
bruenigHOT, bet it is up there already03:19
_nnx_InFlux: Corrected a typo for that last one.03:19
exsjk_:  cool stuff. ok, it's installed apache.. :)03:19
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jk_ok great, you pretty much have it then03:19
InFluxnnx:, Thanks, I'll do that.03:19
bruenigHOT, I know I saw some optimize firefox stuff before and I think that was in it03:19
jk_exs: remember apache runs as a service ...03:19
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chili555thespore: can you dhcp wmaster0 in the Networking gui?03:20
erikgzhow does one go about downgrading a package?  (e.g. the most recent mutt has broken pop3 support in feisty)03:20
exsjk_:  hmm, ok.. ummm03:20
erikgz(and i want to go back)03:20
HOTbruenig: your right, its just gone stale, over a month old03:20
thesporechili555, i set it to dhcp in the networking gui yes.. both wlan0 and wmaster003:20
goldbondhot: i do not have a firewall running03:20
exsjk_:  im in services now03:20
jk_exs: System->Administration03:20
_nnx_InFlux: If I'm on when you try it, please let me know how it goes.  I came on this channel to ask about that specific thing, actually, before I tried a kernel upgrade.03:20
w3ccvWIFI-Relay Question:  The /etc/wifi-relay.conf file contains the [SSID]  for each 'network'. Is there a way to have a [UserGeneratedNickname]  for a section with the ssid specified in that section. I've run into a couple networks that use the same *dumb* name of "wireless" and I need to keep them straight.03:20
jk_exs: exactly.  last one, probably03:20
HOTerikgz: go into package manager, find the package the select "force version"03:20
chili555Zambezi lpr /etc/X11/xorg.conf? or whatever?03:20
jk_exs: "Web Server"03:20
jribh3h_timo: do you know of any other ubuntu users on your campus that successfully update?03:20
cordenanybody know how to access dial-up connection without typing the username and password, just the dial-up number03:20
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zilly6_HOT you have any good optimize/reduce memory guides for firefox?03:20
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HOTgoldbond: can you ping the other machine from both ends?03:20
abruzziHi!03:21
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jk_exs: That controls whether apache is running automatically.  just like a windows services.  same idea03:21
abruzziNeed help03:21
h3h_timojrib, i wish i did03:21
exsjk_:  I'm not seeing web service nor apache03:21
chili555thespore lets restart networking, remember how?03:21
h3h_timoim from a pretty small school03:21
erikgzHOT: ok.03:21
HOTzilly6_: not really, i strongly recommend disable ipv6 lookup though, its makes firefox much much faster03:21
jk_exs: you just installed apache?03:21
abruzziNeed help with Grub03:21
erikgzHOT: i've only ever used the aptitude command line :)03:21
exsjk_:  yes03:21
_nnx_zilly6_: First off, if you have the technical know-how, I'd install a copy of Firefox straight from the Firefox website.  They seem to run a little bit faster.03:21
thesporechili555, err /etc/init.d/networking restart ?03:21
IndyGunFreakabruzzi: just ask your question03:21
_nnx_zilly6_: And less memory hungry.03:21
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h3h_timojrib, could i do a traceroute to that ip address and see where its dropped?03:21
abruzziI resized my partition I know I get Error 1703:21
chili555thespore yes03:21
thesporechili555, woot.03:21
_nnx_zilly6_ : Second - lemme see if I can look this up (no promises)...03:21
abruzziand now*03:21
HOTerikgz: sorry chap dont know how to force a version from the CLI03:22
abruzziI resized my partition and now I get error 1703:22
IndyGunFreak!enter | abruzzi03:22
zilly6__nnx_ thanks the thing that kills me is the memory/cpu usage03:22
jk_exs: and System->Administration->Services doesn't have an entry for "Web Server" ?03:22
chili555thespore and did wmaster0 give up its 1.111?03:22
zilly6_is there a way to tweak how paging works?03:22
ubotuabruzzi: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:22
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exsjk_:  no. do I need to restart?03:22
thesporechili555, i dunno it's doing a dhcpdiscover on wlan003:22
jribh3h_timo: well the thing is, you can get to it with your browser so it isn't always unreachable for some reason.  Sometimes this works:  comment all of your sources.list, sudo apt-get update, then uncomment the main repo and try sudo apt-get update again03:22
jk_exs:03:22
h3h_timojrib, just uncomment the main one??03:23
jk_exs: open a terminal Applications->Accessories->Terminal03:23
_nnx_zilly6_ : Yeah, same here.  Here's what I did, IIRC...03:23
erikgzHOT: it feels broken :(  the gui is much easier to do downgrades with03:23
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exsjk_:  done03:23
jribh3h_timo: to test.  First you comment everything though03:23
thesporechili555, now it's doing the same on wmaster003:23
_nnx_zilly6_ : Go to about:config, and find browser.sessionhistory.max_total_viewers and set it to 1.03:23
jk_exs: type in "/etc/init.d/apache2 start"03:23
h3h_timojrib, alright03:23
HOTerikgz: sadly thats my experience as well03:23
jk_exs: (without the quotes)03:23
InFluxnnx: I'll let you know how it goes :)03:23
_nnx_zilly6_: If I recall correctly that setting governs some caching that Firefox does that's bluntly more trouble than it's worth in my experience.03:23
_nnx_InFlux: Thank you muchly.03:24
graymanhmmmm03:24
HOTzilly6_: you might want to do IPV6 disable = true as well03:24
graymani wonder why i got a kernel update that seems to be exactly the same03:24
thesporechili555, okay yess it gave up the .1.111 address, doesn't have any info now03:24
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rorcool!03:24
h3h_timojrib, alright i uncommented them and then it updated and it just read the lists and said done03:24
_nnx_zilly6_ : I'd look up how to disable IPv6 in the kernel.03:24
linux_kidHow do I config bcm43xx ??03:24
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jk_exs: when you're typing at the command like "tab" will auto complete03:24
_nnx_zilly6_ : As for paging, if you mean virtual memory...03:24
jribh3h_timo: ok now uncomment just the line that contains "edgy main"03:24
chili555thespore but dhcp timed out, eh?03:24
jk_exs: for some reason, i didn't realize that for like my first 2 years using links (doh!)03:24
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IndyGunFreak!wireless | linux_kid03:25
ubotulinux_kid: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:25
exsjk_: Yeah I know the tab thing. it told me "chown: changing ownership of `/var/lock/apache2': Operation not permitted"03:25
ror"The program 'convert' can be found in the following packages:" that's a really cool thing to do03:25
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_nnx_zilly6_ : Look in /etc/sysctl.conf03:25
cordenHELP!!! using SE K610i as modem in Ubuntu.03:25
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thesporechili555, yup03:25
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mehsinhi...did anyone have any success installing XGL/compiz on dapper?03:25
zilly6__nnx_ yeah vm, i'm not using half of my ram yet and it starts paging memory03:25
jk_exs: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart03:25
h3h_timojrib, there are abunch with edgy main03:25
_nnx_zilly6_ : There should be an entry that has 'swappiness'.  Desktop machines supposedly do best when that's set to 0.03:25
linux_kidIndyGunFreak, I have it installed, I just need to speed it up03:25
jribh3h_timo: the first one03:25
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IndyGunFreakcouldn't tell ya03:25
jk_exs: sudo will execute the command as root03:25
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pdelgadohello all03:25
cordenHELP!!! using SE K610i as modem in Ubuntu.03:25
jasont308hello all03:26
InFluxnnx: the command states: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not to get03:26
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h3h_timojrib, some work, other says error reading from server03:26
exsjk_: " * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server... apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"03:26
_nnx_zilly6_ : I forget which is which, but I /think/ that one encourages trying to avoid using the swap file the most.  It ranges from 0-100.  100 helps servers more and uses the swap file more often, I /think/.03:26
jribh3h_timo: pastebin please03:26
jk_exs: ok that's plausbile.  open firefox to http://127.0.0.103:26
_nnx_zilly6_ : It's been a while since I read up on this, but my machine has its swappiness set to 0.03:26
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bruenigor just localhost03:26
chili555thespore it shud connect easily, did you put the MAC back in, colon separated? 00:22:44 etc?03:26
thesporechili555, lemme try changing some settings in my router.. brb03:26
HOToh swappiness i forgot about that...03:26
exsjk_:  ok I get the directory listing of apache default03:26
zilly6__nnx_ i don't see any swappiness setting03:26
erikgzugh, gnutls is so broken :(03:26
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jk_exs: so, great, you now have apache running03:27
thesporechili555, yeah it's in there03:27
_nnx_zilly6_ : Alright, stick this line in - vm.swappiness = 003:27
exsjk_:  sweet.03:27
_nnx_zilly6_ : Copied out of my own file.03:27
zilly6__nnx_ thank you03:27
pdelgadoquick question: I installed Kubuntu 6.06 from a CD and I'm upgrading to 6.10 (or should I upgrade straight to 7.04?) ... anyways... to update from 6.06 to 6.10 all I did was edited my /etc/apt/sources.list and replaced all "dapper" occurrences with "edgy" ... is that all I need to do? (and run apt-get update)03:27
jk_exs: that's it, that's your webserver.03:27
chili555thespore in iwconfig?03:27
thesporechili555, brb03:27
thesporechili555, yeah03:27
h3h_timojrib, http://pastebin.ca/43564603:27
jrib!upgrade > pdelgado    (pdelgado, see the private message from ubotu)03:27
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jribpdelgado: you are correct, that you need to upgrade to 6.10 first and then to 7.0403:27
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pdelgadojrib.. thank you03:28
HOTcant reemember why but i settled for swappiness of ten in the end "sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=10"03:28
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jribh3h_timo: and that ip works in your browser too right?03:28
exsjk_:  I want to make my ip public, so someone can wack in my ip (http://344.245.294.293/) and be able to access a html page. is this hard to do?03:28
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h3h_timojrib, dunno let me check03:29
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jk_exs: depends on your network.  if this is just at home, you'll have to make sure port 80 is open on your router and port forward requests to your router for port 80 to your machine's ip03:29
fizzmahonhello, i am trying to install something, i have done ./configure, but when i type "make" i get this error "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop." can anyone be of any assistance?03:29
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zilly6__nnx_ here's a good swap guide http://lwn.net/Articles/83588/03:29
mesconsheesh03:29
jribfizzmahon: what are you trying to install?03:30
_nnx_zilly6_ : Thanks.  I'll bookmark that.03:30
fizzmahonjrib, ksmoothdock03:30
mesconthere's alot of trial and error when it comes to installing Ubuntu (or rather, making GRUB work) with 4 SATA drives in software RAID03:30
h3h_timojrib, yep03:30
_nnx_zilly6_ : Here' sthe article I configured my /etc/sysctl.conf file with -> http://tvease.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tweak_ubuntu_for_speed03:30
jk_exs: for example for me that's my linksys router at (internally of course) 192.168.1.100 or something like that03:30
ViakenI'm trying to install Dapper to an XFS /, with a seperate ext2 /boot partition, but the installer keeps telling me to use something other than XFS for /boot (which I'm not doing). Am I doing something wrong?03:30
ardchoille!info ksmoothdock03:30
ubotuPackage ksmoothdock does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas03:30
_nnx_zilly6_ : However, DON'T do the file system tweak.  It's just not worth it IMO.03:30
h3h_timojrib, could it be firestarter for some reason?03:30
jk_fizz: that's a bit vague03:30
Heartsbanemescon, you ain't kidding, I did that this weekend03:30
exsjk_:  I use static routing, and my ip is 192.168.1.10. I use a linksys router. I have forwarded port 80 my local network address (192.168.1.10)03:31
zilly6__nnx_ this is random, do you ever wish you had a "notepad" to jot stuff down online?03:31
fizzmahonjrib, but i have also been trying to install KDE themes all day and i get the same error, none will make03:31
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zilly6__nnx_ thanks03:31
mesconHeartsbane, trying it now03:31
mesconI think I got the hang of it03:31
jk_exs: ok that *should* do it03:31
jrib!compiling > fizzmahon    (fizzmahon, see the private message from ubotu)03:31
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jk_exs: i suppose it's possible your ISP would block port 80 -- you'd have to examine your network03:31
drusepthAny doctors in here willing to answer some questions in private chat?03:31
mescon/boot is RAID1 (RAID1 + GRUB should work according to various sites), swap is RAID0 and / is RAID503:31
exsjk_:  http://85.210.53.230/ there you go.03:31
jk_exs: port 80 in terms of serving up pages03:31
Heartsbanemescon: I just did the 6.10 it detected things better than 6.0603:31
jribfizzmahon: when that happens, it means you need to read the documentation for your program, usually you can find a README or INSTALL file with instructions03:31
jk_exs: sweet, ya got it03:32
Derek_RussoHi, I've been trying for some time now to get my video card drivers working.  I have an ATI video card and I've tried several of the tutorials with no luck.  Does anyone think they might be able to help?03:32
bruenigattack03:32
jk_exs: keep in mind your isp might change your IP03:32
mesconHeartsbane, Im doing 6.10 right now on an FS Primergy TX150 S5 server03:32
h3h_timojrib, im reading through the forums and it seems that other users are having this problem when at a school network03:32
jk_exs: this is where dymamic dns comes in03:32
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jribh3h_timo: ah, interesting03:32
jribh3h_timo: can you link me?03:32
mescon4x250gb 10k rpm SATA drives, xeon dual core and 1gb of memory...03:32
thesporechili555, okay that didn't do anything lol03:32
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fizzmahonjrib, i did read the install and it said to "./configure" then "make" then "make install" and it had no troubleshooting for this specific issue03:32
_nnx_zilly6_ : Oh yeah, to re-read sysctl without a reboot, do this -> sysctl -p03:32
mesconthe server will be acting as a mailserver for 188 residents in our apartment complex03:32
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exsjk_: Yeah, I used dynamic ip on my old windows machine, I can sort that out a bit later...so, how do I edit the html page? thanks for all your help by the way03:32
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jribfizzmahon: did you read the output of ./configure to make sure there were no errors?03:33
h3h_timojrib, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38319103:33
h3h_timoand i saw another one03:33
h3h_timohow do i know if i have a firewall on?03:33
fizzmahonjrib, nope, never done that before03:33
zilly6__nnx_ thanks03:33
mesconor rather, 188 apartments, 1gb per apartment (188gb of maximum data) that needs to be stored on the RAID5 array...03:33
jk_exs: your next stop is probably your /etc/apache2/httpd.conf file03:33
Derek_Russodoes anyone think they might be able to help?>03:33
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bruenigexs, http://www.no-ip.com/services/managed_dns/free_dynamic_dns.html here is a good solution if you want03:33
fizzmahonjrib, there are 4 configure files, which do i look at?03:33
jribfizzmahon: none of them, look at the output when you do ./configure03:34
thesporechili555, i'm using this wireless connection manager thing (gnome applet) and it shows that i'm connected but signal strength is 0%03:34
h3h_timojrib, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=232839403:34
jk_exs: i take that back (apache2 change) : /etc/httpd/sites-available03:34
h3h_timothere is another link03:34
jk_exs: default file03:34
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chili555thespore it oughta connect in a heartbeat, all i can suggest is check your work carefully. iwconfig essid, ap MAC and dhclient shud connect all day03:34
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jribh3h_timo: hmm that last one mentions firestarter like you suspected.  Does turning it off work for you too?03:34
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Zambezichili555, lpr file.txt didn't work. "Command not found".03:34
HOTmescon: you using LVM for that raid ?03:35
mesconHeartsbane, it's really nice to see the speed of the drives though :) 86075K/Sec right now03:35
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exsjk_:  ok, I have sudo gedit open this httpd/sites-available. So, is this my html file? (aka index?)03:35
h3h_timojrib, i dont even think i have it on03:35
exsbruenig:  thanks for this link03:35
mesconHOT, nope... the setup is rather "static", so no need to add/remove space or disks...03:35
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jk_exs: no this is the apache configuration file that controls where apache looks to serve content03:35
HOTmescon: no hot swap?03:35
mesconthere is03:35
mesconbut03:35
ardchoille!gksudo | exs03:35
ubotuexs: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 03:35
jk_exs: use that file to change -- for example -- your web root dir03:35
jribh3h_timo: sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter stop     fails then?03:35
Zambezichili555, After installing lpr it says unknown printer.03:36
mesconI dont feel comfortable enough with LVM to go about installing it, because if something would happen I wouldn't have the skills to get the data back by LVM :P03:36
h3h_timojrib, no i just installed it and then stopped it03:36
mesconmdadm works fine for that purpose in RAID503:36
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Cosmo_I am trying to install the VPN my job uses but it keeps giving me this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15047/03:36
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trev_can anyone tell me the command to make X restart?03:36
jribh3h_timo: sudo iptables -L    shows no rules?03:36
h3h_timojrib, i have connections in the tech department here, im gonna find out from one of the bosses if they block connections to the canonical repositories for some reason03:36
mesconmdadm works fine for that purpose in RAID503:36
HOTmescon: fair enough :). its not actually that scary though and has saved my ass more than once03:36
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jk_trev: ctrl+alt+backspace :)03:37
mescontrev_, /etc/init.d/gdm restart03:37
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trev_thankyou03:37
chili555Zambezi i wish i could tell u how to set up a printer from the command line, i cant03:37
h3h_timojrib, everything says accept03:37
jribh3h_timo: yeah their firewall may be doing what firestarter did for others then, gl03:37
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tjb13hey guys is there a rc cd comming out at midnight tonight?03:37
h3h_timojrib, thanks03:37
mesconHOT, You have any "simple" guides for it? I googled it a bit, but wanna learn more about how it works (the concept of it, LVM on RAID blabla)... tldp.org howto's are scary :P03:37
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exsjk_:  cool thanks. right, so it's open under gksudo now, is there any specific (and simple parameters) i should set up?03:37
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trev_thx03:38
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ardchoilletjb13: Should be03:38
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jk_exs: you might want to change your "DocumentRoot" and <Directory > to point elsewhere03:38
jk_exs: if you want.03:38
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jk_exs: otherwise, just note where your root is and you can jump into creating whatever content you want with an index.html03:39
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jk_exs: read the README under /etc/apache2 for more info03:39
francoishow can i find out what version of ubuntu i am running ? can i do uname -r at the command line ?03:39
mesconHOT: "tldp.org: How to reboot your computer." ..... "as previously stated in chapter 18, the 'now' parameter means that the computer should reboot at the present time in space. Alas, the command is shutdown -h now. If you want to learn how to reboot in 10 minutes, read chapter 41."03:39
exsjk_:  "DocumentRoot"  </home/engle/serverhtttp>03:40
HOTmescon: you could grab Ubuntu 6.10 Alternate Install CD , then throw together say a vmware system with a couple of SCSI's just to get a feel for it, once you understand it, its actually very straight forward, if you want a little more help try using webmin as a wrapper, has all the flags you could ever need03:40
ardchoillefrancois: lsb_release -a03:40
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exsjk_:  that's in my sites available03:40
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francoisardchoille: thanks a bunch03:40
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HOTmescon: the alternative cd has LVM support straight out the box03:40
ardchoillefrancois: You're welcome :)03:40
exsjk_:  ops, ignore the extra t in http03:40
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mesconhm, the 6.10 Server edition has support for LVM as well, right? (perhaps thats what you meant by 'alternate edition'?)03:41
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Zambezichili555, It works with cups, but I can't make it work over the network. It's either that or commandline.03:41
theonlyaltim inches away from getting my wireless network up and running but I've run into a small connundrum. in gtkwifi I can connect to the router, but there is an "Unknown signal on network 'Wireless'". The router shows up in iwconfig (finally...) but it just won't connect. any ideas?03:41
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jk_exs: so that file is good for things like subdomains, modules, apache directives, etc03:41
fizzmahonhello again. ok so i solved my problem with configure as i did not have build-essentials installed but now when i type make i get this error "/bin/bash: aclocal-1.9: command not found" any ideas?03:41
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Axsuulis there a way to configure ftp file transferring so that no matter what ftp client a user uses, files will automatically have chmod of 664?03:41
shriphanijust upgraded to edgy03:41
HOTmescon: server supports lvm but also adds a lot of "fluff" like a LAMP config and such, if you just want a basic NAS or something then alternative cd is the weapon of choice03:42
chili555Zambezi its a network printer?03:42
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exsjk_:  for some reason there is no such directory or file of ' /etc/httpd/sites-available' .. even /etc/httpd/ is not there03:42
mesconHOT: does LVM add another layer of security if a harddisk dies? I was under the impression a RAID array was sufficient, in co-operation with nightly offsite backups03:42
jk_Axsuul could you use the sticky bit for that ?03:42
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Axsuuljk_ sticky bit?03:43
jk_exs: /etc/apache2/sites-available03:43
zilly6__nnx_ the firefox is much faster from the site03:43
zilly6_thanks again03:43
_nnx_zilly6_: N/P03:43
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_nnx_zilly6_: If you want you can try swiftfox, but I've found that to be a bit of a hassle and a bit more crashprone than the vanilla versions.03:44
francoiscan you install from the breezy live cd ?03:44
fizzmahoncan anyone help me with this issue http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15154/03:44
mesconHOT: This machine will be doing qmail, spamassasin (blabla, mail-setup, 1gb per apartment, 5 IMAP-accounts per apartment and so on), will act as Intranet webserver (telling people to go help the old ladies in the garden and so on)03:44
mesconand possibly DNS as well03:44
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HOTmescon: basically you are getting two things for buck, dynamic disk resizing and physical volume spanning over logical partitions03:44
Hasrat_USAhi guys I'm a freaking and annoying noob so please forgive me If i sound stupid but I have a few questions. if anyone's interested, please share your knowledge on the topic in question with me. 1) what/who is a 'local attacker' ? 2) does a 'local attacker' need to have physical access to my system to execute an attack? 3) I just went to Ubuntu Official forums and in the 'Ubuntu news and announcements' section discovered that03:44
Hasrat_USAdevelopers are urging 6.10 edgy eft users to upgrade their kernel from 'whatever they have' to 2.6.17.1-11.37 to prevent 'local attackers' from running arbatrirary codes or doing anything malicious to the system. does the local attacker need to have physical access to my system if i don't choose to update the kernel? Thanks in advance03:44
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jribfizzmahon: you need automake1.903:44
zilly6__nnx_ i used to use swiftfox gave up on it in the summer03:45
mesconHOT, wont disk resizing affect the filesystem? Or does LVM also mean you have to use a specific fs?03:45
jk_axsuul: sticky bit is a way of retaining file attributes03:45
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dj-fuHasrat_USA: local attacker implies shell access03:45
MrMakevelihey guys i got some more partition questions03:45
mesconLVM + resize_reiserfs perhaps :)03:45
fizzmahonjrib, so just "sudo apt-get install automake1.9" ?03:45
Tom47!floppy03:45
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone03:45
jribfizzmahon: yes03:45
Hasrat_USAshell access03:45
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fizzmahonjrib, thanks03:45
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camer0ffhey, how do i change my name from "oem" to something else in xubuntu 7.04|03:45
camer0ff?03:45
Hasrat_USAdj-fu can you show an example?03:45
exsjk_:  On the 'default' file within '/etc/apache2/sites-available', upon right clicking the file, and selecting the permissions tab, I get 'you are not the owner'03:46
HOTmescon: when you format the disk you get a list of destructive and non destructive fs you can use for instance i think ext4 is non destructive and can be dynamically resized, we use reiserfs, i know that works for sure03:46
jk_exs: edit it as root03:46
Tom47does anyone know how to get access to the floppy drive in ubuntu?03:46
jk_exs: sudo or gksudo03:46
Hasrat_USAfloppy drive in 2007? oh god!03:46
mesconah... I've been doing Debian on alot of servers I administer, and using Win XP as workstation (because my previous attempt at using GNU/Linux as workstation had me all worked up about glx, xinerama and dri incompability on Radeon cards)...03:46
GaiaX11Tom47: Mount it03:47
_nnx_camer0ff: Do you have an entry in the menu about users and groups?03:47
exsjk_:  this is odd. I am able to open it via GUI, but when I go into terminal and 'gksudo gedit' nothing appears within the text file (as it should)03:47
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Tom47GaiaiX11 its in my fstab03:47
Arrickis there anyone here that can help me setup a non-DC samba setup on 6.06.1 server install?03:47
_nnx_camer0ff: In Gnome/standard Ubuntu it's under System->Administration->Users and Groups03:47
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MrMakevelilets say i create a partition on a hard drive (lets call it hard drive #1) that has my /home folder in it and nothing else, and then have another hard drive with my normal root shit (hard drive #2). if i format or upgrade to fiesty on hard drive #2, what happens w/ my root?03:47
HOTmescon: it sounds like 6.10 server might be a better distro for you, has a nice precomiled LAMP for you , with fairly sane security defaults03:47
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ArrickI installed it, but the comments and man are making my brain mush03:47
mzanfardinoHaving trouble converting an mp4 file from 320x240 to 720x480.  The problem appears to be an audio codec. specifically I get an error: Unsupported codec (id=86018) for input stream #0.1 which refers to my audio stream.  Any ideas?03:47
dj-fuHasrat_USA: what do you mean an example? a LOCAL user03:47
camer0ff_nnx_, i found users and groups03:47
thesporechili555, you still there?03:47
mesconHOT: now that I finally saw a distrobution that I felt wouldn't get in the way of what I was actually trying to do, the Xinerama bugs had been worked out and so on, I gave edgy eft a try and I must say I fell in love with it from day one03:48
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Hasrat_USAdj-fo no. i want to know what you wanted to imply by saying 'shell access'03:48
yuricurriI have installed ubuntu 7.04 on vmware to try it out, and during the installation I entered a password and retyped it, but when the installation was complete and I booted up, it asks for a username, and then password...03:48
_nnx__nnx_ : Alright, go there.  Then you should see a listing of the users, do you?03:48
yuricurriwell, i dont know what username03:48
yuricurrii tried root, etc..03:48
chili555thespore yessir03:48
Hasrat_USAdj-fo i have access to my own shell, which is called 'konsole'03:48
_nnx_camer0ff: Oops.  ALright, go there.  then you should see a lsiting of the users, do you?03:48
dj-fuHasrat_USA: you're a retard, go and die03:48
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thesporechili555, the driver i installed is rt73.. but if i modprobe rt73 it says it's not found03:48
mescongot 24 servers running debian, but instead of learning Windows-stuff and Debian stuff simultaneously I can focus on a debian based system both for my workstation and for the servers03:48
dj-futhat's a terminal emulator, not a shell.03:48
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jpsamaraHi] 03:49
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camer0ff_nnx_, yep... just wondering how i get to keep the files that are currently under /home/oem/03:49
Hasrat_USAdj-fu then what's a shell?03:49
chili555thespore sudo modprobe rt73?03:49
yuricurrican anyone help me please03:49
thesporechili555, yeah a wiki page told me to..03:49
dj-fuHasrat_USA: /bin/bash? /bin/sh? /bin/zsh? /bin/csh?03:49
MrMakeveli!anyone03:49
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:49
dj-fuand a plethora of others?03:49
camer0ff_nnx_, and what would my group and id be?03:49
billyhow can you make panel text white?03:49
dj-fuseriously, learn2google03:49
francoisis it possible to install breezy from the livecd ?03:50
Hasrat_USAoh mine is /bin/bash03:50
HOTmescon: well sounds like you know what your doing :) on board raid can be more than enough for most recovery scenarios, i guess im just saying LVM offers a level of disk fluidity thats a nice to ahve03:50
MrMakeveliQuestion: lets say i create a partition on a hard drive (lets call it hard drive #1) that has my /home folder in it and nothing else, and then have another hard drive with my normal root shit (hard drive #2). if i format or upgrade to fiesty on hard drive #2, what happens w/ my root?03:50
chili555thespore is it a usb device?03:50
jk_dj-fu this "Ignore" feature of xchat is great, isn't it ?03:50
jk_:)03:50
thesporechili555, yes03:50
_nnx_camer0ff: Well, I'm not sure it's the same in Xubuntu and Ubuntu, but, with Ubuntu, you select the user you want to change.  Then, you go to Properties.  Then change the name, and then go to Advanced and make sure /home/oem is still your home directory.  That changes your name but leaves the home directory intact.03:50
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dj-fuheh, rather.03:50
dj-fuhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_(computers)03:50
yuricurriI have installed ubuntu 7.04 on vmware to try it out, and during the installation I entered a password and retyped it, but when the installation was complete and I booted up, it asks for a username, and then password...03:50
mangojambopeople, I'm having a problem with a usb multi-card reader ... Doesn't mount! Do someone knows something about it ?03:50
Hasrat_USAdamn i'm such a noob03:50
Hasrat_USAlol03:51
camer0ff_nnx_, yeah that is what i was thinking... was hoping to get it transfered03:51
chili555thespore it may be sudo modprobe rt73usb03:51
camer0ff_nnx_, oh well.. thank you for the help though :)03:51
_nnx_camer0ff: Well, if that's the case, what you could do is...03:51
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mescon14 gameservers, 1 DNS+gateway+mail, 6 at work (SQL, LDAP, Web, Mail, DNS, CUPS)  with hardware RAID, offsite backups every 2 hours) and 3 at home for various things *cough*, and now I'm installing the new server for the apartment complex03:51
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_nnx_camer0ff: Load up a terminal before you do this.03:51
jk_yuricurri: always remember, you can boot into single user mode and be root on any linux machine you're in front of03:51
dj-fuoffsite backups every 2 hours?03:51
mesconHOT, yeah, I should probably learn more about it03:51
_nnx_camer0ff: Then, switch the user name and the directory name.03:51
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Zambezichili555, It's a Brother HL2030 with USB-connection. It's installed on my Dapperserver.03:51
dj-fuI'm at a datacentre and we don't even backup that much.03:51
_nnx_camer0ff: Then IMMEDIATELY afterwards go to the terminal, and type -> sudo mv /home/oem /home/mynewhomedirectoryname03:52
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mesconHOT, I never get the time to learn though... I'm so busy just keeping all the servers up and maintaining all the services03:52
trprjk_: thats what a grub password is for03:52
_nnx_camer0ff: Followed by sudo ln /home/oem /home/mynewdirectoryname03:52
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_nnx_ER, wait03:52
jk_trpr: or a bios password03:52
HOTmescon: thats always the problem, vmware helps a lot though if you just want to play03:52
_nnx_camer0ff: Followed by sudo ln -s /home/oem /home/mynewdirectoryname03:52
MrMakevelilets say i create a partition on a hard drive (lets call it hard drive #1) that has my /home folder in it and nothing else, and then have another hard drive with my normal root shit (hard drive #2). if i format or upgrade to fiesty on hard drive #2, what happens w/ my root?03:52
chili555Zambezi and its been configured properly and prints a test page?03:52
trprjk_: *nod* had forgotten about that.. Could just alter bios settings to boot from another drive03:53
Hasrat_USAok dj-fu, so, a local attacker is someone who/whoever can illegally gain access to the shell, right? and even if the attacker gains access to the shell from the internet but doesn't have physical access to my system, he still would be called 'local attacker, right?03:53
_nnx_camer0ff: That SHOULD (note I say SHOULD) work.  I don't think any of your data will be screwed up in any case, though, but things might get screwy if it gets messed up.03:53
mesconHOT, I could talk to you about the gameservers and how they are connected to an SMS gateway (as in cellphone textmessages), keeping track of payments, activating gameservers and stopping them on time, rsync setups and so on03:53
mesconoh03:53
jk_trpr: i've been able to get around bios pwds too though03:53
HOTdj-fu: we always do real time mirroring , i think i would get bitch slapped if we risked anything else :)03:53
_nnx_camer0ff: I'd immediately log out and then log back in anyway, though.03:53
camer0ff_nnx_, i guess i could always do sudo mv -r /home/oem/*; chown * <username>?03:53
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mescontwo ftp-servers with the meanest loadbalancing scheme ever03:53
mescon:)03:53
jk_trpr: basically, if someone has physical access, it's game over03:53
mesconcompletely custom03:53
_nnx_camer0ff: chown shouldn't be necessary.03:53
caraHi all03:53
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carais this where I can get help with the livecd?03:53
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trprjk_: right. thats what that little reset jumper is for. :\ gawd you really do have to lock it up03:53
_nnx_camer0ff: IIRC file systems hold ownership by user ID #, not name.03:53
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HOTmescon: sounds good, we heavily bastardised nagios to take care of most of the back end alerts for us03:54
mesconHOT, didn't find anything suited for my needs... two machines on two separate 100mbit fibers in two geographically diverse locations...03:54
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camer0ff_nnx_, ah okay03:54
mesconhehe03:54
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dj-fuHasrat_USA: a local user is a user who already has access to your system, through normal means (/etc/passwd, etc). be it an ftp account, shell account or whatever.03:54
bruenig_nnx_, it is by name03:54
_nnx_camer0ff: So i'd just move the directory (rename it, in other words) and install a symbolic link, to sum it up.03:54
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mesconI usually end up writing things from scratch if I just want some specific function instead of trying to alter some code that is bloated with other functions03:54
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Tom47GaiaX11 i tried "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" but its just gone into turtle mode03:54
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camer0ff_nnx_, why the link?03:54
chili555Hasrat_USA or telnet or ssh03:54
mesconi soooo wanna tell you about the FTP setup because I'm proud of it :P03:55
_nnx_bruenig: That's news to me.  Huh.03:55
addamsFeisty fawn will put Linux on the map03:55
addamsI just installed the beta03:55
bruenig_nnx_, I just jumped in on this, are you talking about chown03:55
addamsall i can say is wow!03:55
_nnx_camer0ff: In case any persnickity applications decided to hard-store your home directory for one reason or another.03:55
jk_addams: i have the beta too. .. haven't noticed huge differences03:55
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mescontaking care of videolan.org downloads, mozilla.org downloads and alot of the files that our hosted sites have03:55
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jk_addams: not to say much work hasn't gone into it. but as a user ...03:55
_nnx_bruenig: We're talking about if, if a user name were changed, if everything would need to be re-chowned from the old user name to the new user name, keeping in mind that the user ID # would be the same.  For instance, I changed my login name from foo1 to foo2, and changed nothing else.03:55
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camer0ff_nnx_, okay... also noticed that i dont have any files that i want to keep in home... so03:56
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exsguys, is the 'sudo' (for my username) the same as 'root' ? .. because  I'm trying to edit the '/etc/apache2/sites-available/default' file in apache2, but it's not letting me.03:56
_nnx_camer0ff: If that's the case...03:56
HOTmescon: we use off the shelf Cisco kit for replication but a "cheap" solution is good old rsync#03:56
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_nnx_camer0ff: I'd just make a new user.03:56
bruenig_nnx_, oh03:56
addamsjk_ at any rate i'm impressed so far, maybe  some bugs will crop up03:56
Hasrat_USAoh okay dj-fu. so my last question is: if there is no user in my system except me and 'root' (which i never use) and my system is connected to high-speed broadband connection 24/7 and up and running and rarely shutdown or restarted, do i have to update the kernel or worry about doing it?03:56
jk_exs: just su to root and then edit it03:56
camer0ff_nnx_, still do the link though?03:56
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_nnx_camer0ff: Nah.03:56
jk_exs: purists will tell you that's bad but it'll get you where you want to be03:56
_nnx_camer0ff: Just leave the OEM account to rot.03:56
gunny01can anyone point me to a tutorial on how to dual boot OSX and ubuntu on a macbook?03:56
exsjk_:  it tells me the password is wrong upon using 'su'03:56
jk_exs: sudo su password03:57
bruenigexs, su is not enabled by default at least03:57
HOTHasrat_USA: there is a line of though which states if it aint broke dont try to fix it03:57
cordenHELP!!! Using SE K610i mobile phone as modem in Ubuntu.03:57
Rule34C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER?03:57
trprexs: use sudo.. the root password isn't set by default; therefore no su03:57
dj-fulol. combo breaker03:57
_nnx_camer0ff: Give it an insane password if there's any security concerns, once you're sure you don't need OEM anymore (be SURE to test the new account out with sudo beforehand).03:57
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mesconHOT, the cisco-kit acts as a reverse proxy, yes? so loadbalancing effects are mainly lower cpu/mem per server, but the bandwidth is still limited to the link that the cisco-box has03:57
mesconcorrect, or have i missed something?03:57
exstrpr:  but sudo isn't allowing me to edit the default file in apache03:57
bruenigcorden, we hear you the other 5 times, stop spamming, your question isn't even a question03:57
trprexs: sudo -s03:57
jk_addams: the desktop affects integration is nice03:57
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camer0ff_nnx_, hmm... why not just delete oem?03:58
Tom47anyone any ideas on how to mount a floppy ....?03:58
HOTmescon: cisco IOS takes care of all that, you basically just define balance on a port basis and it does the rest, fire and foget stuff03:58
_nnx_camer0ff: That's my own paranoia speaking.  I usually leave such things dead in-place in case there's something I forgot that's gonna bite me in the butt.03:58
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harry_is there a way to estimate how many people are using ubuntu?03:58
NessieLiberation763845003:58
_nnx_camer0ff: However, when making the new user, again, be absolutely certain you can use sudo from it.03:58
HOTmy estimation is 32335115.203:58
mesconyeah, but you have to have all machines connected to it by TP-link right?03:58
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NessieLiberationi was thinking 239874 + 29488i03:59
_nnx_camer0ff: Because if you can't and you've disabled or deleted OEM, you're fux0red and will have to use a rescue CD and manually edit /etc/passwd03:59
exsok got it working now guys, thanks03:59
cordenSorry about that03:59
bruenigI was going to go with 500,000pi03:59
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camer0ff_nnx_, was just thinking.... i wrote down something before... when i was installing...03:59
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_nnx_camer0ff: And probably some other not-so-fun stuff03:59
Tom47harry_u i would be surprised if canonical dont have a reasonably good idea from people accessing the repos03:59
mesconmy version is something like DNS-roundrobin, except its not random... (50/50)03:59
_nnx_camer0ff: Wrote what down?03:59
NessieLiberationany maths uni student here?03:59
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chili5557+E903:59
mesconHOT, my version is something like DNS-roundrobin, except its not random... (50/50)03:59
HOTmescon: are you running border protocol?03:59
dual0006hello people03:59
mesconno, let me tell you03:59
Rule34I like mudkips03:59
jk_harry: http://counter.li.org/03:59
camer0ff_nnx_, i am not sure... not even sure where i put it... i used the alternate cd for feisty... installed the OEM version..04:00
NessieLiberationwhat is it that they call i j and k when you get to uni?04:00
jk_harry: go register yourself04:00
NessieLiberationE0 E1 E2 ?04:00
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cordenIs there any other way to establish dial-up connection without using Username and Password - Just only the dial-up number. tnx04:00
Hasrat_USAharry_: currently 13207 users took the time to register themselves with the official/unofficial ubuntu counter to confirm that they are valid Ubuntu users and I'm user no. 1231204:00
eternaljoycorden hello04:00
camer0ff_nnx_, found it...04:01
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mesconHOT, so, here's the deal... in western sweden I happened to get some space in a rack, 2U below the core-router of Bredbandsbolaget (a large Swedish ISP)... so I thought: "Hey, I can get unlimited uncapped 100Mbit fiber from them for free", so I put in a machine there04:01
NessieLiberationi didnt register yet04:01
mesconAND04:01
camer0ff_nnx_, sudo oem-config-prepare04:01
NessieLiberationand i know another user who isnt registered04:01
cordenhello eternaljoy04:01
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camer0ff_nnx_, i guess i will see how that goes...04:01
_nnx_camer0ff: What does that do?  Did it say?04:01
harry_is there an estimate of the people who didn't register?04:01
camer0ff_nnx_, it said to run it after the machine was set up :S04:01
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mesconHOT, in Kista (stockholm) were our co-location facility is, connected by DCS.net, we have another "spare" 100Mbit out on a 10Gbps nordic backbone (1Gbps peering all over the world except the obvious places)04:02
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_nnx_camer0ff: Ah.  Then you should run it, yes.04:02
bruenigharry_, you don't quite understand the concept of registering do you04:02
NessieLiberation83789 * pi04:02
mesconHOT, so, they have nothing to do with each other network-wise04:02
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camer0ff_nnx_, lol.. sorry for putting you through that.. but thanks for the help :)04:02
jk_harry: one could perhaps extrapolate from weblog stats04:02
Hasrat_USAharry_: i bet that would be a little less than a half billion of people04:02
_nnx_camer0ff: No problem.  Good luck.04:02
bruenigdivide digg users by 5 and that is a good approximation04:02
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The3Infinit3On3Hey everyone, I have the Razer Barracuda AC-1 soundcard and it doe not have any Linux drivers but I was wondering if anyone had gotten it working somehow or perhaps knows a way I might be able to get it working?04:03
jk_bruenig: lol04:03
mesconHOT, so, here it is:04:03
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HOTheh@bruenig04:03
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jk_bruenig: they should post people's os next to their slashdot comments04:03
bruenigjk, but with some autodetecter so that all the frauds can be exposed04:04
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roris there a quick way to switch to 16bpp?04:04
jk_bruenig: Anonymous Coward (os: win2k) Score (-2) Yea well WINDOWZ SUCKS!04:04
bruenigjk, exactly04:04
harry_bruenig: No, I do, but obviously not everyone registers. Is there a way to extrapolate from, say, cd image downloads, or something an estimate of the # of ubuntu machines out there?04:04
HOTi know 7 peeps that would convert to linux today if they could play games on it04:04
gregcha117can someone tell me how to set my monitor to 1280x1024, its missing, i tryed adding it to the xorg.conf file but it doesnt seem to be appearing04:04
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mesconHOT, http://ftp.endpoint.nu = 217.118.215.117, http://ftp.endpoint.nu/pub/$FILE == mod_rewrite to http://go.yi.se/http://ftp[$1] .endpoint.nu/pub/$FILE, http://go.yi.se has mod_rewrite and reads the load from ftp1 and ftp2 every 5 seconds and directs you to ftp1 or ftp2 depending on current load04:04
bruenigharry_, I don't see how, I mean there is no real logical way to do it, you can guess but that is all it will be04:05
snowpunk98what would be the best way to move a .tar off my ubuntu server to my ubuntu desktop04:05
diabolixdoes anyone know where to get the murrina theme for metacity?04:05
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mesconHOT: ftp1 = 217.118.215.179 (same network), ftp2 = 213.115.0.11 (at the core router of bredbandsbolaget)04:05
jk_harry: you're not the first to think of counting.  http://digg.com/linux_unix/8_million_Ubuntu_users_Then_get_counted04:05
xtknightdiabolix,  murrina theme engine?04:05
bruenigsnowpunk98, wget it and then delete it off the server?04:05
diabolixxtknight: no, the metacity theme.04:05
HOTmescon: thats a very clean way to balance, i like it04:05
addamsIn Feisty Fawn, how do I get the weather map to work?04:05
xtknightaddams, which one?04:06
addamsbeta04:06
xtknightaddams, gnome weather applet?04:06
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addamsi'm not sure, i thought some weather thing came standard04:06
NkZGreetings.04:06
xtknightaddams, same as in edgy.  go to the preferences and set the town in which you live.  enable the radar and save the prefs.04:06
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mesconHOT: its fast as hell... go.yi.se redirects approx 200k downloads per day, but each request takes less than a second... the content is synced by rsync as you might have suspected04:07
xtknightaddams, right click the weather thing and go to prefrences04:07
snowpunk98bruenig, I do not have Apache setup04:07
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bruenigsnowpunk98, I say to set it up then04:07
mesconHOT: the only drawback is that mod_rewrite uses 302 Redirect, which apt-get doesn't understand, so it doesn't work as an apt-get repository04:07
HOTmescon: tweaking rsync to behave itself is an art imho, i have spent days on that04:07
addamsmine doesn't have weather that i can see04:07
mesconhehe, tell me about it :P04:07
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addamsmaybe i'm screwed up in the head04:07
mesconall content is synced once an hour04:08
NkZI have a problem with my Xconfig. It starts all right if I run the 6.10 (Something) kernel (I choose it from the GRUB) but the X fails to load if I run it on an upper version of the kernel. I installed the Nvidia drivers following the Forums how to.04:08
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mesconHOT, if any of the admins of the sites we host needs to get a file up and synced directly (to allow for public download), they can initiate a sync by entering http://sync.ftp.endpoint.nu (password protected of course)04:08
vioi managed to remove my "systemtray" from panel by "pressing" remove from panel, how can i retrive it?04:08
mesconeverything is properly logged in W3C format04:09
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bruenigvio, right click on the panel, select add the panel, add the notification applet04:09
mesconand graphed by awstats04:09
mescon:)04:09
viobruenig:  what would i do without u04:09
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vio!opsnack | bruenig04:09
ubotubruenig: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!04:09
bruenigvio, that should be something you figure out on your own04:09
numistopsnack?  that's a new one04:09
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HOTmescon: biggest problem with rsync is trying to help people understand the danger of using a bit level replicator, what filesystem journal are you using?04:09
xtknightaddams, lol04:09
NkZI have a problem with my Xconfig. It starts all right if I run the 6.10 (Something) kernel (I choose it from the GRUB) but the X fails to load if I run it on an upper version of the kernel. I installed the Nvidia drivers following the Forums how to.04:09
vioi've tried everything, and i prob will ^^, some day04:09
bruenigwhen in doubt, right click on it04:09
xtknightaddams, what weather are you speaking of?04:09
xtknighthow did you get the weather map?04:09
xtknightaddams, if you want the weather map, right click the top panel and do Add To Panel.  then choose Weather04:10
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addamsthe weather map04:10
HOTmescon: filesystem choices can really come back to haunt you if you get it wrong04:10
addamsIf you want to set-up local weather map on your ubuntu desktop it is very easy in ubuntu feisty.Sample screenshot as follows04:10
viobruenig:  thank you very much :)04:10
gregcha117can someone tell me how to get my 1280x1024 resolution back?04:10
h3h_timojrib, i figured something out04:10
xtknight!fixres04:10
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:10
h3h_timojust takes alot to install04:10
vioi wasted about 2-3 hours on that.. ^^,04:11
h3h_timohave to run the same command over and over to get everything downloaded04:11
snowpunk98bruenig, Thanks that worked, I got it04:11
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mesconI use reiserfs for the FTP userland, ext3 for system, ext2 for /boot04:11
xtknightaddams, link?04:11
h3h_timodoes anyone know why amarok wont play mp3 files but i can play them in totem??04:11
mesconHOT, though none of our users can directly interact with the filesystem04:11
mesconHOT, the FTP-filesystem04:11
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addamsxknight: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-beta-preview.html04:11
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xtknightaddams, yes.  its' the gnome wather applet.  Add it to the panel04:12
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ian__hello ppl.04:12
HOTmescon: good choices, altough reiser has seem really weird quirks imho, IBM and Dell wont touch it at the moment, they are ext3 or nothing04:12
mjrI wouldn't touch reiser either04:12
Puppy_Has anyone got Google Earth to work? My Google Earth does not work. Can anyone help?04:12
xtknightaddams, to get the dialog they show, you right click the gnome weather applet (after adding it to the panel), and click Details to show the full weather map and details04:12
mjrnot really what I'd call reliable04:12
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ian__i have activated desktop effect in my feisty fawn what shall i press to see the cube?04:13
addamsthanks xlknight04:13
addamsI just got it04:13
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mesconHOT, they upload to /chroot/$USER/ftp.. once every 5 minutes it checks if $USER has an open ftp connection, if it does, then dont do anything, if $USER does NOT have an open ftp-connection, then run clamav on the files, if pass, move to /chroot/sync/, when the secondary server has synced from that folder, send a signal back to the master server, which then puts the file in /chroot/ftp (public file area)04:13
addamsok now how do I change the location ?04:13
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xtknightaddams, right click preferences04:14
mesconHOT, so, all files that site admins upload undergo a clamav check, its moved to a temporary location waiting to be synced, when its done, move to the public area (so that both files appear at 100% filesize on both servers at the same time)04:14
HOTmescon: clamav is a nice to have but not in a commercial grade solution, but maybe that can change in the future04:14
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mesconHOT, yeah... low income company I have on the side04:14
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mesconEndpoint is just for game-server rental and for something to challenge my mind with04:15
addamswow xtknight04:15
addamsI got it04:15
addamsFeisty fawn is incredible04:15
HOTnah vista is better04:15
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addamsomg04:16
xtknight;p04:16
addamsthis radar map is awesome04:16
ian__hello pll. what shall i press to see cube effects?04:16
mesconHOT, stuff at work is usually the same... all clients use a fubar Delphi client to manage daily operations... it works with a central SQL server as a backend... all offices are connected by VPN so the data is loaded live from the SQL server04:16
xtknightaddams,  edgy had the weather applet too04:16
xtknightlol04:16
addamsdoh!04:16
_nnx_addams: Do tell, to someone who's too cowardly to try it on his machine until it's full up released?04:16
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HOTmescon: openswan for vpn?04:16
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mesconopenvpn04:16
mesconNAT-to-NAT04:16
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mescon1 HQ, 3 sattelite offices04:17
rorit's the xeffects stuff that is really sweet, having it all there with zero configuration to be done by the user04:17
mesconall clients and two of the servers at work are windows though :/04:17
HOT_nnx_:  be brave and dive in, i like feisty so much i installed it in all the critical life support machines at the local hospital04:17
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addamshonestly04:17
addamsIf I owned m$sft stock04:17
addamsI'd sell it04:17
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cafuegoWhat makes you think anyone would buy it off you?04:18
addamshah04:18
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mesconHOT, if the company I work for would just get the custom app (built for us by contractors) ported to C/C++ or Java, we could skip windows altogether... all we really need for the clients is Word, Excel and WinTL (the custom app).04:18
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HOTmescon: i really dont have patience for openvpn , just do everything in ios, its hard to make the commercial argument for ipsec when everyone wants PTP04:18
addamsWell ubuntu was better than xp, but I think feisty makes it bar-none the best system I've used yet04:18
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mesconthat way we could cut licensing costs by ALOT04:18
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mesconHOT, we dont have any roadwarrior configuration setup... if a sales-rep wanna connect back to the office, they use Terminal Services right now... most of the sales work is done inhouse anyway04:19
zYe_can anyone help me fix my open gl04:19
robert_my primary server computer can't access the Internet- help04:19
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HOTmescon: makes sense a lot of the time04:19
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Cosmo_ I am trying to install the VPN for my job using these instructions https://216.241.173.165/full_linux_instructions.html but it keeps giving me this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15047/ can anyone help me?04:20
nuts0002Question: trying to get Flash to work with Firefox, running under 64bit Ubuntu04:20
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gregcha117i cant change my resolution to 1280x102404:20
zYe_help with open gl!04:20
HOTi keep harping on, if some big companies get together 10M to get directx 9 totally working in any nix variant im sure there would be mass migration04:20
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HOTgrumble grumble04:20
camer0ff_nnx_, i guess it worked :)04:21
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eternal_pCosmo_ are you "sudo" your install?04:21
Cosmo_yes04:21
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HOTnuts0002: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-flash-java-realplayer-under-64bit-firefox.html04:21
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eternal_pwhere it says "detected Linux--unknown" I wonder if it doesn't know how to build..04:22
mesconHOT, if there's something I'm happy about, its that our CEO looked at Windows Vista and thought it was counter-productive, introduces a new learning curve, adds no production value, has higher licensing costs and "probably has alot of security holes" :)04:22
Ademanis it just me or is facebook now using tango icons?04:23
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HOTmescon: the thing i really like about vista04:23
Cosmo_HOT: I think the issue is more of getting software companies to quit relying on Direct x04:23
mesconHOT, and then added "I wish we didn't have to pay all these licensing costs"04:23
HOTis the box helps keep my monitor level04:23
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mescon:P04:23
Cosmo_lol04:23
HOTCosmo_: not really going to happen dx10 is so tied to the hardware level ati and nvidia are not going to move "backwards"04:23
eternal_pCosmo_: they tried that with opengl...04:24
mesconI actually used an un-opened "ASP for dummies" book as a monitor stand back when I had a 21 CRT and a 17 CRT (the 17" needed to get in level with the 21 vertically)04:24
nuts0002HOT: thx I will try that04:24
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HOTnuts0002: sorry meant to say, use the ubuntu specific link down the page04:24
addamsok04:24
addamsI've lost my ability to switch between work spaces some how04:25
addamshow do I turn it back on?04:25
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stephenhello04:25
HOTif the business world had the will, the act of actually reverse engineering dx10 or 9 would take a few months04:25
MrMakevelihey you guys know of any standalone flash players? i have some kinda book in an swf that i need, and i think i've played swf on one of my media players, but this doesnt need to be played, but interacte with04:25
addamsn/m04:25
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trev_does anyone know how to run azureus as root so I can let it update itself?04:25
addamsI figured it out04:25
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HOTlook at vmware 6 or whatever brings in 3d support, cant remember now...04:26
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MrMakevelitrev_: cant you just sudo azureus     in a terminal?04:26
eternal_ptrev_ from the command line, do a sudo /fullpath/azureus04:26
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trev_thx04:26
mesconthe only thing that MIGHT change things with Direct X is if there is an "open source" alternative that is better, has alot of documentation and support companies surrounding it04:26
stephenMrMakeveli04:26
mesconMrMakeveli, none comes to mind, but you could always use Wine04:27
stephenlibflash-swfplayer04:27
eternal_pmescon: supply and demand, as long as people buy vista (see dx10) that is where the buisness go, regardless of what is 'better'04:27
stephensudo apt-get install libflash-swfplayer04:27
ardchoille!offtopic04:27
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!04:27
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nuts0002quit04:27
exs In /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, I have (all that is in there) is '"DocumentRoot" </home/engle/serverhttp/>' Now, within serverhttp folder is my simple 'index.html' with some content. The online address to my ip is http://85.210.53.230/ yet, when you go there, I am confronted with the default apache file listing, and upon entering 'apache2 default' I do not see my index.html. Thanks04:27
HOTi think with all this hypervisor stuff going on with the new cpu's there is no reason why linux couldnt run windows bins with no loss04:27
MrMakevelistephen: now what wil lthat give me?04:27
apecathow do i list available wlans/ssids in a console?04:27
trev_eternal_p:how do I find out the fullpath to it04:27
ian__hello pll. what shall i press to see cube effects?04:27
MrMakevelitrev_: find azureus04:28
cafuegoHOT: Correct, if only microsoft would give useful documentation to the developers who care.04:28
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trev_thx04:28
mesconeternal_p, true.... betamax vs vhs.... porn industry says "VHS ftw!", techies say "Betamax ftw!"... which format prevailed? :)04:28
MrMakevelii think04:28
eternal_ptrev_ from a terminal, first do a sudo updatedb when its done locate azureus04:28
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HOTtrev_: "find \ -n "azuereus"04:28
robert_I'm running 6.0604:28
MrMakevelithanks hot04:28
stephenexs, why are you trying to put your index.html in apache2-default?04:28
robert_(on my server)04:28
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ardchoilletrev_: which azureus04:28
eternal_pmescon: exactly...DX isn't going anywhere04:28
trev_ardchoille:the one automatix installs04:28
robert_the internet just went out on it04:28
MrMakevelitrev: see HOT04:28
eternal_pI'm sure someone will get DX10 going on wine one of these days :)04:28
ardchoille!automatix | trev_04:28
ubotutrev_: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe04:28
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mescontrev_, another one is: find /* -name azureus (or find /* -iname azureus for case insensitive)04:29
trev_thx04:29
eternal_plocate is much quicker though :)04:29
stephen:)04:29
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MrMakevelieternal: i think locate is what i meant04:29
mesconeternal_p, if updatedb is up to date :)04:29
eternal_psudo updatedb ;)04:29
ardchoille'which azureus' should work regardless of who or what installed it.04:29
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MrMakevelihey you guys know of any standalone flash players? i have some kinda book in an swf that i need, and i think i've played swf on one of my media players, but this doesnt need to be played, but interacte with04:30
trev_had no idea automatix did all that stuff, next time ill take the extra 20 minites to do it manually04:30
mesconwhereis azureus works too04:30
stephenMrMake04:30
stepheni said before...04:30
MrMakevelistephen: you never told me what it was04:30
MrMakevelistephen: i saw it but you didnt tell me!04:30
stephenog04:30
stephenoh*04:30
Fontyhello04:30
stephendidn't i -_-04:30
HOTsorry im being an idiot04:30
MrMakevelistephen: if so sorry, you told me the command to get lib flash shiz04:30
PenguinchrissyI'm having trouble with gdesklets I keep getting this message when ever I try and launch it in a terminal04:31
PenguinchrissyStarting gdesklets-daemon...04:31
PenguinchrissyCannot establish connection to daemon: timeout!04:31
MrMakevelistephern: but what does it apply to?04:31
stephenyea thats right04:31
HOTlocate \ -n "azeurues"04:31
stephenits a small app04:31
HOTor however its spelt04:31
bruenigazureus04:31
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ian__hello can somebody see my message?04:31
mesconazuzureuseruzes04:31
mescon:)04:31
FontyCan I get some help?04:31
HOTlocate  \ -n "azureus"04:31
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kitcheian__ yes04:31
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ardchoilleian__: yes04:31
ian__ah ok :) thanks!04:32
ian__im using xchat04:32
MrMakevelistephen: i have sudo apt-get install libflash-swfplayer again, but i swera i'd donet his04:32
MrMakeveliswear* done* this*04:32
ian__i can not see the list of users04:32
ian__:(04:32
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eternal_pFonty: whats wrong?04:32
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stephenhmm04:32
stephenweird04:32
bruenigMrMakeveli, what are you trying to do, don't install that for flash04:32
MrMakevelistephen: is it its own app?04:32
ian__what should i press for the cube effect? i have enable the effect.04:32
stephenmaybe you could wine... and get SWFplayer04:32
ian__:)04:32
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Fontyhi eternal, just a simple thing hopefully.. I want to know how to stop ubuntu from turning my monitor off during idle04:33
bruenigor are you on 64 bit04:33
MrMakevelibruenig: i have flash support for one of my media players04:33
HOTian__: i think ctrl + alt and left arrow ?04:33
HOTworks on beryl...04:33
Gumbyian__: I think its ctrl+alt+left/right or click and drag desktop04:33
MrMakevelibruenig: so thats ok. but what i need is one that doesnt just play flash videos, but also interactive ones04:33
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eternal_pFonty: system - prefrences - power prefrences04:33
Gumbyctrl+alt+click and drag desktop04:33
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stephenyea, how do you get the cube?04:34
eternal_psorry, power management04:34
eternal_pstephen: ctrl - alt- left mouse button04:34
Fontyyes power management, I've been in there04:34
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FontyI've set it to never put the computer to sleep04:34
ian__gumby: it does not work :(04:34
HOTok, here is the killer feature of linux, being able to change the font DPI on the fly04:34
MrMakevelibruenig: no ideas?04:34
HOThow hard is that in windows :(04:34
stepheneternal, but does it spin round a cube thing :(04:34
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eternal_pFonty: I believe the putting the computer to sleep is the smae thing04:35
eternal_pstephen: yup04:35
bruenigMrMakeveli, don't think such a thing exists04:35
eternal_ponce you press all three, move your mouse around04:35
Fontybut it's already set to never eternal but it always does it04:35
eternal_pFonty: then I'm not too sure actually04:35
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Fontyokay thanks anyway eternal04:35
eternal_pFonty: what video card do you have?04:35
MrMakevelibruenig: you know how if you have a normal flash player in windows, you can watch videos or if its a game or interactive flash, you can operate it?04:36
FontyI have no idea eternal how do I find that out?04:36
eternal_pFonty: is it ATi, built in, nvidia, etc?04:36
bruenigMrMakeveli, revision:  don't think such a thing exists for linux (although I think I have a game that uses standalone flashplayer 6 or something really old04:36
camer0ffIs there any reason that when i used lynx to open www.google.com, AbiWord opened instead?04:36
MrMakevelibruenig; oh ok so you know what im talking about. hmmmmm04:36
FontyI don't really know eternal it just came with this pc04:37
MrMakevelibruenig: because i have a swf of an ebook or something, and if i open it w/ a media player it kinda does weird things04:37
MrMakevelihaha04:37
eternal_pFonty: system, administration, device manager04:37
Fontyyep04:37
camer0ffIs there any reason that when i used lynx to open www.google.com, AbiWord opened instead?04:38
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eternal_pFonty: its hiding in there somewhere :)04:38
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zYe_help, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:39
Fontyahh.. I haven't got much chance of finding it then.. everything looks the same to me in there. They're all host controllers!04:39
robert_SOMEBODY04:39
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robert_ANYBODY04:39
robert_HELP04:39
camer0ffIs there any reason that when i used lynx to open www.google.com, AbiWord opened instead?04:39
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eternal_pFonty: then I need to pass this off to someone more skilled than me...i would also post on the fourms04:39
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luke-jr_workSo... 7.04 panics on boot04:39
luke-jr_workanyone care?04:39
NickGarveyis there a foss version of skype? (assuming it isn't foss already)04:39
zYe_help, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:39
Fontyokay thanks eternal.. don't worry about it04:40
luke-jr_workNickGarvey: not skype, but there is standards-compliant stuff!04:40
Ollie|hi where can I find the php ini file?04:40
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somafmdoes anyone know how to hide mounted folders from showing an icon on the desktop?04:40
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robert_ugh04:41
eternal_probert_: why don't you ask the question04:41
robert_I already stated my problem04:41
robert_My Ubuntu 6.06 server won't connect to my network04:41
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camer0ffIs there any reason that when i used lynx to open www.google.com, AbiWord opened instead?04:42
eternal_pif you do an ifconfig what shows up?04:42
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zYe_http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta04:42
zYe_help, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:42
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camer0ffIs there any reason that when i used lynx to open www.google.com, AbiWord opened instead?04:43
bruenig!repeat | camer0ff04:43
ubotucamer0ff: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience04:43
bruenig!repeat > camer0ff04:43
bruenigubotu, tell camer0ff about repeat04:43
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eternal_pbruenig: thank you :)04:43
eternal_probert_: ifconfig ?04:43
robert_what about it?04:43
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robert_I can't ping anything04:43
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eternal_probert_: what happens when you type it in?04:43
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robert_the settings are exactly the same as the ones on here04:44
eternal_pdoes it show you an IP?04:44
robert_ugh04:44
robert_brb04:44
CoRnJuLiOxdoes anyone know of any good application(s) i can use to take a video of me playing stepmania?04:44
CoRnJuLiOxi want something like fraps04:44
CoRnJuLiOxbut for linux04:44
eternal_pis it dhcp? can you ping 127.0.0.1 ?04:44
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rpereiraDoes someone knows which part of Launchpad is GPL and which part it isn't?04:47
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BawlsfuffWhen I try to update my kernel headers by typing "sudo apt-get install linux-headers update" I get the error message, "Package Linux-headers has no installation candidate"04:48
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GumbyBawlsfuff: try kernel-headers04:48
bruenigBawlsfuff, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:48
bruenigBawlsfuff, and apt-get install pakcage update is not correct syntax04:48
bruenigBawlsfuff, you either sudo apt-get install something or you sudo apt-get update something you do not do that hybrid thing04:49
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bruenigor rather sudo apt-get update updates the repos, not packages04:49
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Bawlsfuffbruenig: I tried what you said, and it gave me the message: linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic is already the newest version04:49
addam2well,04:49
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bruenigBawlsfuff, there you go04:50
addam2The cube effect in my feisty fawn quit working already04:50
addam2any ideas?04:50
Bawlsfuffbruenig: But I wanted to get 2.6.17-11, I thought that's the newest one out04:50
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bruenigBawlsfuff, right now you are using 1004:50
ZambeziAnyone know how to add a networkprinter installed with cups on another server?04:50
Bawlsfuffbruenig: Uh-huh...how do I get 11?04:50
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bruenigBawlsfuff, change it to sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic04:50
dabaRZambezi: gnome-cups-add04:50
Bawlsfuffbruenig: Sorry, I'm a newb04:50
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ZambezidabaR, I know that, but what about the rest? ;-)04:51
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Bawlsfuffbruenig: Comes back saying it couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic04:51
dabaRZambezi: click the add new printer icon04:51
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bruenig!info linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic04:52
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ZambezidabaR, But I don't know what I should write. IPP and that shit.04:52
ubotulinux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic: Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.17 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.1-11.35 (edgy), package size 893 kB, installed size 24104 kB04:52
bruenigBawlsfuff, it is in there04:52
bruenigBawlsfuff, are you on dapper04:52
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Bawlsfuffbruenig: I'm on edgy04:52
bruenigBawlsfuff, it's there, sudo apt-get update and then do that command again04:52
Bawlsfuffbruenig: And I'm not currently on that computer, because I'm doing all this so my wireless card will work04:52
dabaR!cups04:52
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows04:52
dabaRZambezi: read some of that.04:53
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Bawlsfuffbruenig: So update doesn't work because I can't connect to the internet04:53
meal3837anyone here familiar with intel's g965 chipset?04:53
bruenigBawlsfuff, how do you expect to download software04:53
Bawlsfuffbruenig: I thought that 11 came with the cd...04:53
bruenigBawlsfuff, apt-get downloads stuff from the interwebs and installs it04:53
Bawlsfuffbruenig: Wow.....well, that explains a ton, now doesn't it....04:54
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Bawlsfuffbruenig: Is there somewhere I can download it from and then put it on a flash drive and install it on my linux computer?04:54
bruenigpackages.ubuntu.com04:54
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ZambezidabaR, There's a problem. The printer is installed on a server without X. Every howto is for install on the same computer. :-/04:55
Bawlsfuffbruenig: And once I get it onto the computer, how do i install it? Or should I just come back here when I've gotten that far?04:55
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sachriojahi04:55
bruenigBawlsfuff, sudo dpkg -i name.deb04:55
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NelsonLRuffmuffbruenig: Sorry, I got kicked offline04:55
NelsonLRuffmuffbruenig: Haha, and it apparently changed my name as well04:56
sachriojai have problems to configure midi in ubuntu04:56
sachriojai need some help04:56
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NelsonLRuffmuffbruenig: Which ones am I supposed to download?04:57
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robert_okay04:58
robert_Im back04:58
robert_sorry04:58
meal3837!ich804:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ich8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
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robert_eternal_p: it comes up with eth0, however I'm unable to ping the outside world04:59
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bruenigNelsonLRuffmuff, the package called that04:59
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eternal_probert_ what IP does it have...what does netstat -rn say, are you static IP or dhcp, etc?05:00
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AlexCevery time i login in gnome it never gets past the splash, so i have to use failsafe gnome. What do i do to fix gnome to make it run normally?05:00
robert_I can't ping05:00
NelsonLRuffmuffbruenig: Okay, I found it, downloaded to a flash drive, its on the linux computer05:00
robert_I don't know why05:00
bruenigNelsonLRuffmuff, sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb05:00
killerguyhow do i find what my mtu is set at in ubuntu05:00
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robert_it's like I'm not plugged into the network at all05:00
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dabaRrobert_: are you on the same computer atm?05:01
gireeshAlexC: you might try creating a new userid and seeing if that one logs in fine05:01
starzok ok ok05:01
AlexCgireesh: ok05:02
robert_the computer is right next to me, yes05:02
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quaaldoes anyone have a breakout box for an nvidia video card05:02
gireeshbreakout box?05:02
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quaalyes.05:02
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gireeshwhat is that?05:02
LM1boot from ubuntu edgy cd my computer wiggs out05:02
quaalfor example http://images.tomshardware.com/2005/12/09/seven_of_nvidia/msi_breakoutbox.jpg05:02
LM1can anyone help05:02
LM1?05:02
quaalLM1, press the de-wiggout button05:03
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NelsonLRuffmuffbruenig: It says there's some sort of dependency problems....05:03
LM1:c05:03
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peepsalothow can i know what command is actually running when gdm starts my desktop05:03
bruenigNelsonLRuffmuff, figured05:03
dabaRrobert_: eternal_p asked you whether you have an IP address, shown as inet addr in the ifconfig output in the eth0.05:03
dabaRrobert_: I did not see your answer.05:04
robert_yeah, I do05:04
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robert_I assigned it manually though05:04
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dabaRAnd this is a network with a router?05:04
robert_yes05:04
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LM1it says cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0000:00:14.005:04
dabaRand why not get the IP with dhcp then?05:04
LM1does anyone know what that means05:04
robert_because it's a webserver05:04
cordenguys what configurationg setting in wvdial so that i wont ask username and password05:05
Paddy_EIREanyone know how to completely remove grub and then restore the vista boot loader05:05
cordentnx05:05
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dabaRand you can not set up the staticness of the IP on the router, robert_ ?05:05
gireeshPaddy_EIRE: boot from the Vista disk and do an fdisk mbr05:05
LM1:C05:05
robert_hm, you mean set up a static route?05:05
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NelsonLRuffmuffbruenig: So what do i do about that?05:05
CryoniqIs it possible under Gnome to configure different backgrounds for each workspace?05:05
robert_based on the server's MAC address?05:05
dabaRLM1: is it a specific program that gives you that error?05:05
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dabaRrobert_: exactly.05:06
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Fathefnermy grub everytime i log to windows it messes up and i can get to any os05:06
LM1cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0000:00:14.005:06
dabaRnot a routem, but to assign that MAC axddress a static IP.05:06
LM1trying to boot from livecd05:06
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robert_hm, I never thought about that05:06
Fathefnerr u talkin to me'05:06
LM1wont let me even if graphics safe mode05:06
dabaRrobert_: try that ,.05:06
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NelsonLRuffmuffbruenig: Any ideas?05:07
dabaRFathefner: you logged into windows and you can no longer access the grub menu?05:07
Fathefnerya05:07
Fathefnerlike when i get off then i cant even get on window or ubuntu05:08
Fathefnerthe grub doesnt work any more05:08
dabaRFathefner: and what do you do to fix it?05:08
Fathefneri reinstall05:08
dabaRFathefner: or are you asking that now?05:08
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Fathefnerubuntu05:08
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Fathefnerthen it reinstalls the grub then i works05:08
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amarant_coralWhat is the difference between installing ubuntu server edition and a command line install off the alternatve cd? besides the fact that there is no x in either.05:08
dabaRFathefner: Tell us about your partition setup.05:08
ian_hello my wired network would not work for the first boot. i have to disable and enable the eth0. i tried to put it in the rc.local. but no luck. can somebody help me.? :(05:09
gireeshthe alternative CD does have X05:09
robert_let's see if it'll let me do that without taking a crap on me05:09
dabaRamarant_coral: different kernel:)05:09
amarant_coraldabaR: Is that all it is? The server kernel?05:09
gireeshit allows you to install the bootloader on the root partition05:09
robert_dabaR: my router is pretty particular- it doesn't like changing settings without having me reboot the damn thing05:09
dabaRian_: you want a command to get ran everytime you boot, right?05:09
Fathefneri just have an extra hd that i installed it onto05:09
dabaRamarant_coral: ya.05:09
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amarant_coralgireesh: Yes, it does have x, but it doesn't install it if you install the command line version05:09
Paddy_EIREthis is looking bad, trying to remove grub and restore the vista boot loader.. fixboot /mbr fdisk /fixboot and as many other commands care not to work05:09
robert_hm05:09
dabaRamarant_coral: to some people it is a sufficient difference.05:09
amarant_coraldabaR: thank you05:09
robert_could it be there are packet collisions?05:09
gireeshFathefner: it is easy to repair an install of grub05:10
dabaRamarant_coral: AFAIK.05:10
ian_dabR: yes.05:10
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Fathefnerreally05:10
ian_dabR: yes.  can you help me? :)05:10
dabaRamarant_coral: maybe there are other difference, but I can not think of anything that would make sence.05:10
LM1can I get gparted on knoppiz05:10
LM1knoppix05:10
LM1I need to partition a drive05:10
robert_10.0.0.20 | unknown | 00:01:02:42:83:1e <-- that's the ip address of the computer I want it to pull05:10
robert_brb05:10
amarant_coraldabaR: me either, and i'm having trouble finding out on ubuntus page.05:10
dabaRian_: well, you put those into /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh05:11
robert_okay here we go05:11
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gireeshLM1: there is qtparted05:11
robert_rebooting05:11
robert_the router05:11
ian_dabaR: what about the rc.local?05:11
dabaRamarant_coral: there should be nothing else different. Nothing else would make sense.05:11
Fathefnerso how do i fix a grub05:11
NelsonLRuffmuffCan anyone walk me through how to update kernel headers without an internet connection?05:11
LM1I think I will try the feisty beta05:11
LM1first05:11
ian_dabaR: what is there difference rc.local?05:11
gireeshFathefner: you could reinstall it from the command line05:11
gireeshwhen you get to the grub loader hit ESC05:11
LM1does anyone know is it possible to defrag a sata ntfs drive with feisty05:11
Fathefneror do i need or have to partition05:12
gireeshthen root (hdx,y)05:12
gireeshthen setup (hdx,y)05:12
Fathefnerdo i tyep05:12
Fathefner root (hdx,y)05:12
Fathefnertype05:12
gireeshyes but make sure you know x and y05:12
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dabaRian_: I do not really know. But I do know that the bootmisc file is where you ~put miscelaneous things to run at boot.05:12
Fathefnerwhat r the x and y05:12
gireeshhow many hard disks do you have?05:12
ian_dabaR: i will try your suggestion :) thanks!05:12
Fathefner305:13
LM1should I download the amd64 if I have a 64bit machine05:13
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LM1amd x2 3600+05:13
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gireeshwhich hard disk is the primary master? do you want grub on the master boot record?05:13
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Fathefnerno05:13
gireeshLM1: not unless you want to try it out05:13
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Fathefneri have it on my 40gb slave drive05:13
gireeshtoo much trouble with plugins and stuff05:13
[LD] Rushil- DCC SEND "12345678901233" 0 0 005:13
inonoinstall grub on an MBR of your second HD and swap the boot order when you need to get into linux :P05:13
dabaRFathefner: how many hard disks, how are they partitioned, where is which OS...05:13
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robert_dabaR: nope,  can't do that05:14
robert_er- dabaR: nope, can't do that05:14
gireeshslave on what?05:14
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dabaRrobert_: and does dhcp setup work for the same machine?05:14
Hobbsee!staffers05:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about staffers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:14
PORDOi bought this thing to slow down my cpu and make my system quiet and it works brilliantly.  7 bucks.05:14
Fathefnersrry05:14
gireeshFathefner: is it a slave on master or secondary?05:14
robert_how do I switch to dhcp again?05:14
alindemanHobbsee: I nuked him05:14
Fathefnermaster05:14
Fathefneri think05:14
Hobbseealindeman: great, thanks05:15
Fathefnerya05:15
dabaRrobert_: how did you switch to static?05:15
gireeshdo you know the partition name? /dev/hd..?05:15
gireeshor /dev/sd..?05:15
robert_dabaR: I set it up that way05:15
Fathefnerits dev/hd05:15
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gireeshhda or hdb or hdc?05:15
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dabaRwhich files did you edit, robert_, or what program did you use?05:16
gireeshand which partition on it?05:16
Fathefnerthat i dont know05:16
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robert_dabaR: I used the ubuntu curses setup app to do it05:16
robert_I don't remember what it's called05:16
robert_and no05:16
dabaRFathefner: are you using Ubuntu right now?05:16
gireeshwhat are you running right now?05:16
robert_dhcp setup fails05:16
dagerrobert_, gonna jump in here.. "dhcpcd eth0", or whatever your device is, should start it05:16
robert_ok05:16
LM1:C05:16
Fathefnerwindows05:16
gireeshXP?05:17
LM1linux doesn't like amd/ati motherboard chipsets does it05:17
dabaRFathefner: you have 2 hard disks?05:17
gireeshLM1: I use AMD mobos but Nvidia cards05:17
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Fathefnerno i have 305:17
LM1ive got a motherboard with the amd/ati 690 chipset05:17
robert_dager: I don't have that binary05:17
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Ollie|how can I give the user www write permissions to a certain directory?05:17
dabaRFathefner: which one is windows on?05:17
gireeshFathefner: in Administrative Tools in XP you can go to COmputer Management and in Disk Management find out which HD is which05:17
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Fathefnermy main drive05:18
dabaRFathefner: does that one only have C, or C and D?05:18
gireeshLM1: ATI has generally been problematic05:18
LM1:c05:18
robert_oh05:18
robert_haha05:18
Fathefnerc05:18
robert_i'm an idiot05:18
robert_brb05:18
LM1man this bites... my most powerfull comp is gonna have to be XP05:18
LM1noooo05:18
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gireeshLM1: what ATI card?05:18
LM1not a card05:18
MeatalomarHola mundo05:18
LM1motherboard05:19
LM1:D05:19
ZambezidabaR, I'm feeling helpless. The howtos won't help me at all cause it's made for local computers, not networkcomputers.05:19
gireesherr yeah what chipset?05:19
LM1its the 690 chipset05:19
Meatalomaralguien de mexico mazatlan sinaloa ?05:19
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NelsonLRuffmuffHow do I update kernel headers without an internet connection?05:19
LM1asus M2A-VM05:19
fizzmahonhello, trying to install a .deb but package installer is giving this error "error: dependency is not satisfiable kdelibs4c2a" and i am almost sure i have that depenency05:19
robert_okay05:19
robert_that worked05:19
dabaR!es05:19
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:19
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robert_sorta05:20
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dabaRZambezi: the howto is made for local not networked computers?05:20
Fathefnerdaba is there a grub fixer05:21
thiago_how do I update the GLIBC TO GLIBC 2.405:21
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dabaRFathefner: and which drive is Ubuntu on? the second or third one?05:21
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Fathefner205:21
peepsalothow can i make a script automatically run in a tty on startup?05:21
dabaR!info libglibc05:22
ubotuPackage libglibc does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:22
exsis there any kind of fun tools for ubuntu which takes info from apache?05:22
Fathefnerdo i put that05:22
Fathefner!info libglibc05:22
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dabaRFathefner: no05:22
zero88Who here has some knowledge of Mysql?05:22
Supaplexoh oh me me! mysql! me!05:22
peepsaloti know SQL05:22
ZambezidabaR, I installed a Brotheprinter on my Dapperserver without X. I managed to print the testpage in the cups (localhost:631). But if stuck when I'm going to add it on my desktop (Feisty with X).05:22
dabaR!ask | zero88:05:23
ubotuzero88:: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:23
zero88haha supaplex05:23
dabaRthiago_: why do you think you need to?05:23
Fathefneris there a grub fixer05:23
Supaplextake it to the vet?05:23
zero88supaplex ok, here it is. i am having a program use mysql right.and when it tries to connect i get an error,give me a second and il tell you what it is05:23
dabaRgrub05:23
dabaR!grub05:23
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:23
thiago_i try to use unrar05:24
zero88supaplex sorry 1 sec05:24
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robert_grr05:24
robert_dhcp config sort-of works05:24
tjb13hey guys do you know when the rc cd will be released, do they come out exactly at midnight?05:24
robert_but then it stalls after SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted05:24
dabaRpeepsalot: what script?05:24
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thiago_and the system said that i need glibc 2.405:24
tjb13i'm very excited05:24
tjb13as the last one did not boot on my macbook pro05:25
dabaRtjb13: no, not at midnight.05:25
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zero88Supaplex this is the error i get when trying to use a program to make a db.  error: 'Access denied for user 'zero88'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'05:25
dabaRwhen it's ready05:25
robert_I'm going to update my server05:25
robert_bah05:25
zero88supaplex but ive added a pass for root05:25
dabaRhmph...new to mysql, eh...05:25
Supaplexzero88: mysql keeps a different set of passwords/users than linux will. so add one.05:26
BlankTimI hate to ask again, but could I have the link for doing a forced install of wine on AMD64 systems? I lost the link I was given last time around  :( Thanks!05:26
dabaRSupaplex: zero88 wait...05:26
tjb13dabaR damn, i was pretty eager to test that stuff out05:26
zYe_if i install feisty beta, when the final release comes out, will it upgrade itself?05:26
dabaRtjb13: it will come out..05:26
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dabaRzYe_: if you upgrade05:26
zero88dabar yes?05:26
dabaRzero88: what exact command do you run?05:26
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zero88dabar well in the program i do a   db_create05:27
dabaRzero88: and you have added a password for your root mysql account, or your ubuntu root account?05:27
LM1any fans of watching this torrent is like watching paint dry05:27
LM1lol05:27
LM1i mixed that one up05:27
zYe_dabar: so it will upgrade if i choose to, yes?05:27
zero88dabar the mysql account05:27
dabaRzYe_: ya, it will tell you in the top right as always.05:27
pbwDager: how do update amarok without an internet connection?05:27
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zYe_dabar: awesome, thanks.05:27
peepsalotdabaR i want to run X on a separate virtual console with a remote desktop application nx, or vnc running05:27
dabaRzero88: well, what is the line of code that does db_create?05:27
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LM1are there any other distros besides gentoo that the latest kernels05:28
dagerpbw: do a "cat /etc/hosts.allow >> .amarok_update" and reboot kde05:28
dabaRpeepsalot: is it a daemon, or just a command?05:28
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pbwthere are no other distros.. none.05:28
zero88dabar um what do you mean.i think it does a cmd_db_create but im not sure05:28
zero88dabar i cant post the file in pastebin05:28
dabaRzero88: do that.05:28
zero88dabar k05:28
spenc3zero88, u wanna add user in mysql??05:29
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zero88spenc3 well... this is the error i get    error: 'Access denied for user 'zero88'@'localhost' (using password: NO)05:30
peepsalotdabaR, just a command I guess.  i'm not sure yet even how to start it up correctly05:30
zero88!pastebin05:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:30
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dabaRpeepsalot: you may just need to install a daemon that will get started by Ubuntu at start-up.05:30
peepsalotdabaR, something like "xinit /usr/NX/bin/nxclient -- :1" i think05:30
zero88dabar http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15162/05:30
dabaRpeepsalot: to add a random command to when your computer starts, add it to the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file.05:31
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dabaRzero88: K, well, that is RUby...05:31
zero88dabar ya05:31
zero88dabar do i have to edit that file somehow?05:31
spenc3zero88: have u add ur user into mysql?05:31
peepsalotdabaR, how do I associate a command with a particular virtual console?05:32
zero88spenc3 uh, i duno,ive only added the pass for root05:32
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dabaRzero88: and do you run this program yourself from the command line?05:32
peepsalotx is such a mystery to me05:32
spenc3zero88: oh then u should check and see if u can login with ur root user, try mysql -u root -p05:33
zero88dabar ruby or the program thats trying to create the db05:33
spenc3zero88: and then input ur password.05:33
zero88spenc3 yes i can liek that05:33
LM1i can't figure it out05:33
LM1it boots with ultimate boot cd05:33
spenc3zero88: u in mysql right now?05:33
dabaRzero88: do you run the program you posted to pastebin yourself on the command line?05:33
LM1which uses linux isos05:33
LM1:c05:33
pbwhow do i install notepad?.. i cant edit any files and i have no internet05:33
zero88spenc3 but i am using another program to use mysql and it doesnt give me the option to you -u -r -p05:33
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zero88dabar well, i load that plugin.that file is a plugin for metaspolit.and yes its used through command line05:34
|NewUser|pbw:  there is gedit.. if u want to edit any file.. gedit is kinda notepad.05:34
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dabaRpbw: there are a few notepads installed by default. DO you have gnome installed, the graphical desktop...05:34
zero88spenc3 no not at the moment05:34
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spenc3zero88: but the Access denied error is from mysql itself.05:34
zero88spenc3 um... yes through another program05:34
dabaRzero88: do you pass any command line arguments to this prorgram?05:34
dagerzero88: are you using the framework snapshot? or a depreciated version?05:35
SpaceGhostPanel Question: Does anyone know... Why my panel icons say my pc in on MUTE, and why it says "No Network Connection"?!??!05:35
zero88dabar all i can do is db_create, ive tried db_create -p but same thing happens05:35
zero88dager i beleive its the framework,off the site05:35
dabaRzero88: are you just happy if I tell you how to create a database, or do you need this program to be able to run?05:36
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dagerzero88: and, sorry for jumping in, but whats the problem?05:36
|NewUser|SpaceGhost: same as me ;) the icon says " NO internet COnnection " but Internet working fine :/05:36
pestilence!esd05:36
ubotuesd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead05:36
zero88dabar well i think i need the program to do it,well access mysql05:36
DevLaVacaI am having trouble getting a second monitor to work; I want to have it be a clone of the main desktop.  I can get it to come on, but all I see is a field of color and parallel lines, and my cursor is a square of vertical lines.  Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?  My xorg.conf is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15163/plain/05:36
peepsalotwhat is the proper terminology for the different consoles?  eg Ctrl-Alt-F1, Ctrl-Alt-F2, etc.05:36
ian_how do i know rc.local runs in boot time?05:36
zero88dager no problem, im trying to use MetaSploit to screate a database05:36
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dagerzero88: Metasploit doesnt create databases05:37
pbwdabaR: i have a graphical desktop05:37
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zero88dager the plugin for it does05:37
SpaceGhostTwo icons on my panel show wrong information. One icon shows Mute, yet i have sound. The other shows NoNetworkConnection, yet i obviously have internet. This problem occured as I was installing a METACITY theme. any ideas????05:37
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dabaRpbw: you can then click on applications>utilities>text editor for a notepad program.05:37
zero88dager i have to load a mysql plugin05:37
dagerzero88: im 99% sure it exploits them, or maybe creates a malicious mysql database remotely05:37
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dabaRzero88: if I tell you how to create a database on your mysql server, and tell you to not use that program, is that OK?05:38
zero88dager sorry, i dont understand05:38
peepsalothow can I make X start on a specific tty?05:38
pbwi dont have a menu dabaR05:38
spenc3zero88: try to run terminal and then type in mysql -u root -p05:38
zero88dabar ya, that will help also05:38
FriedGeekis there a way to make NTFS drives writeable?05:38
dagerzero88: Metasploit is a framework for exploiting security flaws on different servers.. not for setting up your own05:38
fizzmahonhello, trying to install a .deb but package installer is giving this error "error: dependency is not satisfiable kdelibs4c2a" and i am almost sure i have that depenency05:38
|NewUser|!ntfs05:38
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:38
FriedGeekawesome thanks.05:38
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mister_robotoian_: do you mean, if you add something there, how do you know that it actually ran?05:39
zero88dager ya i know, im checking the 2 window boxes on my network05:39
dabaRzero88: mysqladmin -u root -p create <db_name> where db_name is the name of the db, of course.05:39
dagerzero88: if the exploit fails, then you're good :D05:39
zero88spenc3 i am able to login liek that05:39
dagerzero88: so being unable to create a database means your secured05:39
DevLaVacaSpaceGhost, with the mute, have you tried muting and unmuting the sound?  Also, the Network icons are notoriously finicky.  Are you using NetworkMonitor or nm-applet?05:39
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dabaRdager: not in the case he showed, cause it was just trying to create the db with a non-existent user.05:40
zero88dager no no, not on the other machine,my machine05:40
dabaRdager: but I get your point.05:40
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dagerzero88: OH! I see what you mean.05:40
zero88dager :)05:40
ian_mister_roboto: yes. how will i know it actually ran.05:40
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ekishello, somebody speak spanish here?05:41
SpaceGhostDevLaVaca, Im using default Ubuntu Gnome panel, im not sure what that is. nm-applet is techno-lingo to me hehe i dont know what it is. im using fresh install of ubuntu. i installed a graphics theme and it messed my icons. i tried muting/unmuting and even changing icons. not fixed so far.05:41
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dabaRian_: make a command that creates a file only if the previous command is succesful, using &&05:41
dabaR!es05:41
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:41
mister_robotoian_: one easy thing you could do is to add a line to write to a log file. then you will know it ran05:41
ekisdabaR: thanks, !!!05:41
dabaRde nada05:41
zero88dabar how could i set mysql up so anyone can login witout a pass? locally05:41
ekisdabaR:  i can see that you can speak spanish "de nada" lol,05:42
dabaRekis: I know a few words.05:42
mister_robotoian_: something like:   echo "rc.local ran at `date`"05:42
ekisunbuntu-es is empty ... :P~05:42
ekismy english it's so pooor05:42
dabaRzero88: not sure. It would be in the /etc/mysql/ directory a conf file probably.05:42
mister_robotoian_: something like:   echo "rc.local ran at `date`" >/tmp/rc.log05:42
dabaRekis: give it a shot.05:42
zero88dabar ok05:42
ekisi need change between desktops in ubuntu gnome05:42
dabaRzero88: there is a #mysql, eh?05:42
ekiswithout the buttons on the bar05:42
zero88dabar yes i shall check that out05:43
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ekishow can i change between desktops in other way?05:43
DevLaVacaSpaceGhost, probably changing themes made it all screwy.  Have you already tried logging off and then back in?05:43
dabaRekis: alt-ctrl-<left_or_right>05:43
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ian_mister_roboto: this is the command in my rc.local ifdown eth0 ifup eth005:43
ekisdabaR:  ohhhh thanks ... that's that i wan to do it !!05:43
ekisexacly that !05:43
dabaRekis: cool.05:43
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ian_mister_roboto: i want to know if it was executed in boot05:43
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dabaRian_: that is two commands.05:44
gubluntuanyone here a *lynx* scripting _master?_05:44
dabaRian_: do you have them in a bash script?05:44
greenmanWhat is a good p2p program?  Right now I'm using Limewire on OS X05:44
SpaceGhostDevLaVaca I've unplugged  my machine and waited ten minutes. that didnt fix the two messed icons in panel. I did however just fix my NETWORK icon by Disableing the network and reinabling it. Now just my MUTE icon is still messed.05:44
ian_dabaR: yes its two command.05:45
dabaRgreenman: I use gtk-gnutella.05:45
DevLaVacaI am having trouble getting a second monitor to work; I can get it to come on, but all I see is a field of color and parallel lines, and the cursor is a square of vertical lines.  Any ideas?  My xorg.conf is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15163/plain/  Please take a look; I need to do a presentation tomorrow!05:45
dabaRian_: in a bash script?05:45
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ian_dabaR: i just put it in the rc.local05:45
ian_file05:45
greenmandabaR: thanks, I'll give it a try05:45
dabaRian_: what id the first line of that file?05:45
mister_robotoian_: if that's the actual text in the file it will give you an error. you should have an "&&" before "ifup" at the very least. you will see messages in "/var/log/messages" related to those commands.05:45
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Arrickhi all05:45
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Arrickfor ubuntu 6.06.1 I have "sudo apt-get install libnss-ldap" how do I reconfig that?05:46
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DevLaVacaSpaceGhost: Well, I'm stumped.  I've had that happen in the past, and all it took was muting, unmuting, and then raising and lowering the volume.05:46
dabaRArrick: reconfig?05:46
ian_dabaR : #!/bin/sh -e05:46
Arrickyes dabaR05:46
dabaRArrick: what is that?05:46
mister_robotoArrick: dpkg-reconfigure <package-name>    is the generic way05:46
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Arrickused with samba05:47
gubluntuubotu tell Arrick about libnss-ldap05:47
ian_mister_roboto: so you mean i will put && before ifdown05:47
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SpaceGhostDevLaVaca I'm going to go out into the wilderness of the internet and download a heap of themes and experiement with this. You've helped and inspired me. Thank you for being awesome. <305:47
Arrickuboto has no idea gubluntu thanks though05:47
mister_robotoian_: clearly you don't read well  :)05:47
Arrickthat isnt working dabaR05:48
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dabaRArrick: what does it mean to reconfigure a library?05:48
payanhmm05:48
ian_mister_roboto: sorry for clarifying :) im new in linux. i do not want to ruin my OS :) i have spent 2 days now. hehehe05:48
hanasakianyone have a recommendation for a good highend (developer class) laptop that ubuntu runs on ?05:48
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dabaRArrick: you want to change some settings of the ldap server that it installs or something?05:48
ArrickdabaR, reconfig the program05:48
Arrickyes05:48
stepanstasWhats the best Universal Media player for Linux?05:48
dabaRArrick: maybe the settings are stored in /etc.05:49
hanasakixine05:49
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dabaR!media players05:49
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs05:49
Rio79i just set up proftpd on my LAN so that i could transfer files between windows and ubuntu.  im currently transferring some files ,but its at around 250 KB/s... seems slow, no?05:49
hanasakistepanstas:  of course there are religous wars05:49
ekisstepanstas: mplayer for me ... !05:49
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DevLaVacaSpaceGhost: glad to help (more or less)05:49
stepanstasHmm, a lot of choices05:49
gubluntu!best05:49
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.05:49
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ekisstepanstas: try mplayer ... !! it's awsome !05:50
SpaceGhostDevLaVaca you helped more than you would believe. You breathed new life into my trust of using IRC <333305:50
mister_robotoian_: you have two commands there: 1) ifdown eth0 and 2) ifup eth0.   you can't just put them together in one string like you did.   if you put "&&" between them that means to run the second command only if the first succeeded05:50
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stepanstasekis, does it play mov, avi and stuff?05:50
gubluntuvideo lan does05:50
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ekisstepanstas: of course05:50
gubluntu...everything05:50
mister_robotoian_: but let's step back and ask why you are doing that in the first place?05:50
dabaRian_: and as an extension, add another &&<command> after those, and that command will get run only if the first two succeed.05:51
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stepanstasAnd what about .ram (real) .lst (winamp)?05:51
dabaR!codecs | stepanstas05:51
ubotustepanstas: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:51
xzaiwhat is the name of the program that you can use to format a disk and change partitions and all that...its on the live CD05:52
WaxyFreshwhat do you guys do to keep your sytem running well/the best it can?05:52
ian_mister_roboto: my real problem is my network interface does not connect at first boot. when i sudo ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0. it will connect. so im tried to put it in rc.local. nothing happens. :( do you have any sugestion?05:52
crdlbxzai, gparted05:52
xzaithxs05:52
WaxyFreshxzai, fdisk maybe?05:52
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trprWaxyFresh: nothing. thats just the way it stays over time ;)05:53
xxl3whi05:53
pestilenceso if you don't start esd and you use evolution, does the sound notification not work?05:53
xzaiit was gparted05:53
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trprWaxyFresh: back when i was using XP my answer would have been to reformat / reinstall every 6 months05:53
WaxyFreshtrpr, dang im bored05:53
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WaxyFreshtrpr, im not going to switch to windows out of boredom05:53
WaxyFreshlol05:53
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gubluntuWaxyFresh: reason why i switched *from* xp05:54
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denyshey, is there some speacial way to connect to a wireless network that is not broadcasting?05:54
trprWaxyFresh: hehe. try to setup debian unstable as a desktop.. plenty of configuration that needs to take place -> no bordom05:54
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pestilencedenys: if you know the ssid, then no.05:55
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WaxyFreshtrpr, what about conigureing certain files?are there any that could add to my systems performance?05:55
mister_robotoian_: i would try to fix the problem with it not coming up when you boot rather than a nasty workaround like what you're trying. do you have any clue as to why it fails to come up on boot? any error messages from /var/log/messages or anything like that?05:55
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pestilenceWaxyFresh: sounds like you and gentoo were meant for each other05:56
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WaxyFreshpestilence, no no no05:56
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NickGarveyI do love gentoo...05:57
WaxyFreshNickGarvey, sadist05:57
NickGarvey:)05:57
xzaiso i have a external hard drive....whats the trick to format it it ext3?05:57
PORDOhow can i check my cpu temp?05:57
trprWaxyFresh: play around with cron maybe ;) the last time I was bored I configured it to wake me up in the morning05:58
ian_mister_roboto: i really dont know i tried to open the messages there are many message :) this is some what the last message pr 12 11:02:08 MCE dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.host_name05:58
ian_Apr 12 11:02:08 MCE dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.domain_name05:58
ian_Apr 12 11:02:08 MCE dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.nis_domain05:58
ian_Apr 12 11:02:08 MCE dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.nis_servers05:58
ian_Apr 12 11:04:39 MCE dhcdbd: Unrequested down ?:305:58
gubluntuWaxyFresh: one thing you could do is install ubuntu and random computers you come accross (friends, relatives.. complete strangers, internet cafes)05:58
ian_Apr 12 11:04:48 MCE kernel: [  569.658122]  eth0:  setting full-duplex.05:58
ian_Apr 12 11:04:56 MCE dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.host_name05:58
gubluntu!pastebin05:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:58
pestilenceian_: stop that.05:58
gubluntuubotu tell ian_ about pastebin05:58
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WaxyFreshPORDO, theres a bunch of desklets try gesklets,besides that a meat themometer?05:58
ian_sorry :(05:59
pestilencePORDO: cat cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRC/temperature05:59
ian_how do i used pastebin?05:59
nonuda!pastebin | ian_05:59
ubotuian_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:59
pestilenceoops, only one cat05:59
WaxyFreshgubluntu, most my friends would kill me,but i  use live cds at my library to get by thier anoying 1 hour lmet05:59
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pestilenceand it might not be THRC, it might be some other THR :-D05:59
trprWaxyFresh: anyhow, this seems more like #ubuntu-offtopic material. thought i might mention it before we get in trouble05:59
greenwhere would i get the cofig and doc files for mplayer?05:59
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tjb13hey do you guys know when the cd for feisty rc will be out?06:00
greenconfig06:00
gubluntuWaxyFresh: nice.. stick to those libraries06:00
pestilencegreen: /etc/mplayer?06:00
tjb13it doesn't come out at midnight rihgt06:00
pestilencegreen: or ~/.mplayer?06:00
PORDOls -l /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/06:00
PORDOtotal 006:00
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greenty i'll look06:00
pestilencePORDO: is acpi loaded?06:00
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PORDOis that a module?06:00
pestilencePORDO: yep06:00
pestilencePORDO: and a daemon.../etc/init.d/acpid start06:01
xbaez_hi there is a way that make the disk partition by default but changing the filesystem i want reiserfs instead ext306:01
pestilencePORDO: and a daemon.../etc/init.d/acpi-support start06:01
ViciousParkerI need a bit of help with automatix. I've installed it before just fine but this time I'm having a problem. As far as I remember, I didn't do anything weird, but now I can't run it. Or the synaptics manager or anything of the sort. I get this error:06:01
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kraypiusI am trying to play World of Warcraft in Wine but when I start it up the task bar and top bar show up over top of the game06:01
WaxyFreshkraypius, #wine06:01
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luke-jr_workHow do I get rid of 32-bit crap?06:01
ViciousParker'E:The package automatix2 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.'06:01
kraypiuswaxyfresh, there are 3 people in there06:01
WaxyFreshoh06:02
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luke-jr_workkraypius: #winehq06:02
Cranehello all06:02
kraypiuswaxyfresh, also the ubuntu forums site made the official guide for doing this06:02
greenhow many mplayer config and doc files should there be ?06:02
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pestilencegreen: should be just one...06:02
WaxyFresh!hi | kraypius06:02
ubotukraypius: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!06:02
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pestilencegreen: on my system, /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf06:02
kraypiusokay ???06:03
greenin the etc/ mplayer one theres 306:03
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pestilencegreen: /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf is the important one.06:03
greenmenu input and mplayer config06:03
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greenpk ty06:04
greenmanhi06:04
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greenmanI'm gettting this error06:04
greenmanERROR: Cannot compile against GLib.06:04
greenmanERROR: You need libxml2 (http://www.xmlsoft.org/) to compile Gtk-Gnutella.06:04
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greenmanBut i checked and I have libxml206:04
greeni cant get streaming to work thats why im asking06:04
pestilencegreenman: do you have libxml2-dev06:04
greenmanpestilence: not sure, lemme check06:04
ian_mister_roboto: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15168/ this is my messages06:05
ian_mister_roboto: hope you could help me06:05
greenmanpestilence: I didn't.  Thanks.06:05
pestilencegreenman: sure06:05
mister_robotoian_: i'm sorry but offhand i don't know what's going wrong. however, that's what i would try to find out. if you want to pursue the rc.local route, you can put an entire sequence of commands into a subshell and log all that shell's output to a file by doing something like:  ( command && command && command ) >/tmp/output.log 2>&106:05
ViciousParkerhas anyone had this problem before, "'E:The package automatix2 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.'"06:05
greenmanhmm.06:05
greenmansolved that one, but I'm still getting these two...06:06
greenmanERROR: Cannot compile against GLib.06:06
greenmanERROR: Cannot compile against Gtk+.06:06
ian_mister_roboto: ok thanks.06:06
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pestilencegreenman: the easiest thing to do is "apt-get build-dep <whateverpackage>06:06
pestilencegreenman: you need -src repos for that command to work, of course06:06
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greenmanpestilence: what do you mean?  Right now I'm trying to configure gtk-gnutella06:07
pestilencegreenman: if there is a ubuntu gtk-gnutella package, running "apt-get build-dep gtk-gnutella" will install everything you need to build gtk-gnutella06:07
greenmanpestilence: well I did a apt-get install gtk-gnutella and that worked fine, but when I went to run it, it said it was an ancient version.  So I went to the site to download and build it myself and ran into the problems06:08
greenmanI'm assuming that if it installed it, then I have those deps somewhere...06:08
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pestilencegreenman: exactly.  so just do what i'm telling you to do.06:08
pestilencegreenman: you have the run-time dependencies.  not the build dependencies06:09
crdlbgreenman, you can follow the instructions it gives to make the "ancient" version run06:09
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pestilencegreenman: you need things like header files to build, which aren't needed just for running06:09
cmathesonthis is sort of a retarded question... but i just got a dell inspiron 6000 from work and i put feisty on it... but no wireless is detected.  i'm going through the output of lspci and i don't even see any wireless cards listed there.  is it possible to get a laptop w/ no wireless in this day and age?06:09
greenmancrdlb: isn't that what you aren't supposed to do?06:09
pestilencegreenman: and build-dep will get those headers06:09
greenmanpestilence: ah, I'll do that06:09
crdlbgreenman, it's not that old06:09
mister_robotocmatheson: i have an inspiron 8200 and it has no built-in wireless06:10
mister_robotocmatheson: i have a wireless cardbus card that i used06:10
greenmancrdlb: okay, I'll probably just do that on my friends comp.  Might as well finish this now though.  :)06:10
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cmathesonmister_roboto: oh ok... maybe it just doesn't have wireless then.  i've been trying to figure out if that was an available config option, but it's been hard finding that on the internet.  i guess if your laptop is newer that is fairly likely though06:11
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ViciousParkerhow can i disable extra synaptic repositories using the terminal?06:11
pestilenceViciousParker: edit /etc/apt/sources.list06:11
am2can see my sound card but do not hear sound any suggestions?06:11
pestilence!sources.list | ViciousParker06:11
ubotuViciousParker: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource06:11
mister_robotocmatheson: when i ordered this from dell a while ago, the wireless option was to add the plugin card to your order :)06:12
cmathesonmister_roboto: ah, thanks06:12
greenmanwell that didn't work.  I guess I'll just use the apt-get install of it06:12
ViciousParkerk, thanks pestilence (what a funny thing to say)06:13
am2no sound but system recognizes sound card. Any suggestions?06:13
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pestilenceam2: is it muted?  is the cable plugged in? :-D06:14
mister_robotoam2: sounds silly but i had that happen once and it turned out that the volume was turned all the way down in the mixer06:14
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greenjust being curious i ran that sudo apt-get build-dep package name as mozilla-mplayer and came up with 100mbs worth of stuff06:14
pestilencegreen: heh06:14
pestilencegreen: have you ever built anything on that machine?06:14
greendoes that mean it was all missing?06:15
greennope06:15
pestilencegreen: missing in what sense?  missing if you wanted to build that package.  but you don't need the build dependencies to use a package06:15
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pestilencegreen: probably half of it is common to building any package (e.g. see how big "apt-get install build-essential" is)06:16
greenwell i mean is the mplayer going  to work now06:16
pestilencegreen: no :)06:16
greenok06:16
greenhummmm06:17
pestilencegreen: does it work streaming anything?06:17
greennope06:17
pestilencegreen: mozilla-mplayer is broken AFAIK for things like CNN06:17
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am2hey pestilence. nothing muted volume all the way up any other suggestions?06:17
pestilencegreen: there is bug in it.06:17
greenit said something about missing doc files and motif06:17
pestilencegreen: install MediaPlayerConnectivity and use it with vlc06:17
pestilenceam2: ls -ltr /dev/dsp06:18
greendo u know what the code would be?06:18
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pestilencegreen: code?06:18
greencommand sorry06:19
pestilencegreen: MediaPlayerConnectivity is a mozilla extension, you have to google it.06:19
pestilenceit installs through firefox06:19
pestilencegreen: as for vlc..."apt-get install vlc"06:19
greenok ty06:19
josh_hello all i have a what i assume is a hostname problum06:19
josh_every thing was great untill i got a new router and now i canot connect to me HLDS06:20
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pestilencejosh_: what's HLDS06:21
josh_half-life06:21
josh_server06:21
pestilenceahh06:21
josh_web server and all others are ok though06:21
pestilencejosh_: do you need to forward some ports to your computer from the router?06:21
josh_i have it on DMZ06:21
pestilenceoh.06:21
pestilenceany sort of error?06:22
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josh_the old router forwared ports this one sets the ip of the server to the WAN ip06:22
niallHi all06:22
niallI have a quick question06:22
atoponceniall: then ask06:22
josh_nop.. no errors06:22
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AzMooDoes Ubuntu have a sendmail package?06:22
niallwhen I /etc/apt/sources.list I told I don't have the permission06:23
pestilence!info sendmail06:23
ubotusendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 248 kB06:23
josh_i can get to it from teh internet though06:23
atoponce!sudo | niall06:23
ubotuniall: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:23
niallthanks06:23
atoponcenp06:23
AzMoopestilence, wicked, thanks.06:23
greenpestilence would xmms work for it its listed in thewizard fort media player conecyivity06:23
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greenconnectivity06:24
emanhey guys!06:24
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pestilencegreen: if you want audio...xmms plays audio...vlc plays video if that's what you want06:24
emanI'm trying to compile a kernel here, but every time I run make-kpkg, it overwrites my .config. how come?06:24
pestilenceand it doesn't have the same streaming bug as mplayer06:24
greenok ty again06:24
niallme again06:25
niallthis is what I got06:25
niallniall@kronos:~$ !sudo /etc/apt/sources.list06:25
niallsudo /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list06:25
niallsudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found06:25
niallniall@kronos:~$ /etc/apt/sources.list/etc/apt/sources.list06:25
josh_the only way i an able to connet to the server via LAN is to set up a virual ip.. but i get 30sec on and 30sec of time-out06:26
atoponceniall: don't put the ! before it. i just sued that for the bot in this channel06:26
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niallsorry Im a newbie06:26
niallthanks06:26
jtteman: i would help you but i dont compile kernels uning the debian/ubuntu methods i compile them straight up wih a script i wrote06:27
atoponcenp06:27
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niallokay so I tried again and it said : bash: sudo /etc/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory06:27
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josh_can someone familiar with seting up hostnames PM me pleas06:28
jttniall: what are you trying to do to sources.lsit06:28
niallany more ideas06:28
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niallyes06:28
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niallim trying to install ebittorent06:29
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niallso I'm trying to follow there install advice06:29
niallwhich is : Please add the following lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list if you are using Ubuntu Edgy (v6.10):06:29
jttniall: ok  sudo /etc/apt/sources.list  wont do anything but return   command not found06:29
niallyeah06:29
jttniall: are you familiar with vi06:30
atoponceniall: what program are you using to edit it06:30
atoponce?06:30
niallno06:30
BlankTimCan anyone help me with a wine issue again?06:30
niallmy terminal06:30
jttniall: hmmm06:30
atoponceniall: 'sudo /etc/apt/sources.list' doesn't do anything. you need to use something to edit it, like vim06:30
nialli see06:30
payancan someone pastebin to me Ubuntu 6.10 original repositories???06:30
atoponcelike 'sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list' or 'sudo emacs /etc/apt/sources.list' etc06:30
ajmorris_does mozilla thunderbird support automatic decryption of ASCII armored keys? if so how do i enable it?06:30
jttniall: i dont edit anything unless i use vi, howervr06:30
niallso what is this "vim"06:30
atoponceniall: vi improved06:31
niallahh06:31
jttniall:  sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list may work it is simple wsizig editor06:31
niallokay I'll give it a shot06:31
niallthanks06:31