[04:29] <_ion> Much of network-manager's functionality could be moved to upstart jobs. For instance, the job that responds to network-interface-added $ifname could ifup a wired interface immediately if it doesn't support media sense, but wait for network-cable-connected $ifname instead if it does.
[05:17] <AlexExtreme> what would emit network-cable-connected though?
[05:17] <Keybuk> HAL
[05:18] <AlexExtreme> hmm
[05:18] <AlexExtreme> good point :)
[05:24] <AlexExtreme> hmm
[05:24] <AlexExtreme> I still need a way of disabling services... does anyone have any ideas for that?