[12:27] okay ctrl+alt+f1 works fine for me [12:28] i have no idea how to exit back to gui though [12:28] I'd guess at either 'exit' or 'startx' === Jester45 [i=Jester45@207-119-237-182.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:31] nope... [12:31] Hmm [12:31] Pass, then [12:32] it's coolthanks [12:35] posingaspopular, Sorry, I did not realize you were done already. Try ctrl-alt- F7 to get back to your gui. [12:36] morpheus74: i just did a cold reboot [12:36] posingaspopular, When you did ctrl+alt+ F1, did the font size get really big, or did it stay the same as you have in your gui? [12:36] you should file a bug report [12:36] the same === carloska [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-a16d0453f7cbce29] has joined #xubuntu [12:37] posingaspopular, The other issue I ran into was I could not get back to my gui doing ctrl+alt+F7, which bring me back to my gui in Ubuntu 6.10. === urena [n=chatzill@pool-71-247-83-142.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:37] The machine then locked up on me. I'm not sure if this is a bug. What do you think? [12:37] that works fine for me.... [12:38] Hmm, must be my hardware then. [12:38] Thanks for checking it out. [12:39] yea it works fine for me, you should file a bug report , imo === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === Dan4 [n=chrissta@c-71-204-21-51.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:47] Can anyone help me? I want to add a second shared printer to linux but the URl of the printer has a space in it, whenever I submit it it removes anything after the space and I can't print. any ideas? === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-246-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === bur[n] er_ [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:53] Dan4, if you add a backslash to the space, it should work [12:53] do\ it\ like\ this [12:53] At least, that's what bash does for folder names with spaces. [12:54] nope, removes it anyway [12:54] I enter smb:///192.168.2.5/deskjet 832c, but when I press apply it is changed to smb:///192.168.2.5/deskjet [12:55] it is fine when I share to an XP computer, but not with the 98 this printer is attached to === odat [n=steve@c-71-207-39-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:57] hi everyone [12:57] xubuntu friggin rocks [12:57] wooohoo [12:57] anyone here able to make a patch for a module? [12:58] odat: doubt it [12:58] that's got to be the best how-long-is-a-piece-of-string questions i've seen all week. :) [12:59] i already have the necessary file [12:59] the easiest way Is: diff -urN module new_module :) [12:59] just not sure how to do it [12:59] if it's just a file, leave out the rN part === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:00] odat: oh, you patched it and just want the diff? i misunderstood, listen to rici [01:01] any other ideas on putting a space in a printer URL? [01:01] http://arron.dnip.net:81/files/vicam.c-2.6.16-agc-Nikolov [01:01] it looks like it might be a kernel patch [01:01] is for the vicam module [01:02] Dan4, you can't just rename the printer to deskjet832c ? [01:02] With no space [01:03] not without fixing settings on >4 other computers [01:03] I have a large network [01:03] That's not really large [01:03] 14 in the network [01:03] Large is >30 comps, IMO :P [01:03] odat: that's not a patch, that's a whole file [01:04] Dan4, these other four computers, they're windows-based, i'm guessing? [01:04] yes, of various ages [01:04] In which case, it would only be about 30 seconds to change the settings around [01:05] some are quite old, and I have to check them all to find which have that printer [01:05] I didn't write it down [01:05] Heh [01:05] rici, i'm not sure how to use it [01:05] But no, if the backslash thing didn't work, i can't think of anything else. [01:05] why isn't there a way to make a space anyway? [01:05] odat: me neither [01:06] i think you have to recompile your kernel with that file [01:06] is that module not in the xubuntu kernel? [01:06] the vicam module is in the xubuntu kernel but it doesn't support automatic gain control [01:06] that is what that file is for [01:07] oh also I have 3 other printers with spaces in their name, and one is on all 14 computers [01:07] just easier to get this one computer to work than adjust the others for it [01:09] odat: you should be able to just compile the module, but you'll need the kernel sources [01:10] Dan4, in that case, just idle here. Someone will chip in when they have an answer [01:10] then you can put it in your modules.conf file, and it will get loaded. [01:10] i suspect you'll end up apt-get'ting quite a lot of stuff to set up to do all that :) [01:10] there's probably a section in the xubuntu docs about "building a custom kernel" and/or "building kernel modules" [01:10] try searching for things like that. [01:11] or just search it in how to forge [01:11] like anything, it's only hard the first time :) === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-183.swipnet.se] has joined #xubuntu [01:13] ok I can wait, the reason for this name problem is I always name the printers by maker, a space, then the model [01:14] Since I started looking into linux, i've always named stuff totally lower-case, with no spaces. [01:14] Just makes things easier [01:14] I am used to doing it for readability [01:14] because windows doesn't complain [01:15] but that is the thing about learning a new OS [01:15] Dan4: i take it all your printers are different? :) [01:16] when i used to be a network admin, i named them by where they were [01:16] that was easier for most network users to deal with. [01:16] yeah, all different [01:16] but then they were almost all the same model. standardization is good. [01:16] 3 brands, 2 types [01:17] well only 2 of the computers are the same [01:18] and the printers are 2 epson impacts, HP inkjet, HP officejet, and a lexmark, === Arkh [n=Arkh@62.152.122.140] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-20-48.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [01:32] so anyone have any idea, seems kindof a silly problem === odat [n=steve@c-71-207-39-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:40] wow the ubuntu channel is loaded === JKnife [n=JKnife@unaffiliated/jknife] has joined #xubuntu [01:41] o/ [01:41] j0 [01:42] =\ this channel has a lot more people in it since i was last here [01:42] that one has >1000 [01:43] JKnife: yup ... we've grown a little in the last 8 months [01:46] Dan4: did you try %20? [01:47] viz. correct url format :) [01:49] yea, won't print, maybe it thinks that 830 is part of it [01:50] part of the % escape? [01:50] that would be unusual. [01:52] it looks like this: smb:///192.168.2.5/deskjet%20832c === JKnife jumps on TheSheep [01:52] yeah, that *should* be ok [01:52] but no guarantees [01:53] it's possible that the %20 is being changed to a space and then the result is not being quoted in some shell script [01:54] % is always followed by exactly two hexits in a url. it won't include the 83 unless it's well and truly borked. [01:54] it is a pretty fresh install [01:54] i don't even have smb here, never mind smb printers, so i can't really help you much. [01:55] do you think the fact that this printer is on windows 989SE have an effect? [01:56] it could. i had a bitch of a time getting that to work with mac os x for printer sharing, until i hooked the printer up to the mac [01:56] that was a while ago [01:57] can you see ordinary network shares on that machine? === camer0ff [n=crew@ppp6-211.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:57] I don't know where to do that in xubuntu [01:57] .. i got into irc fast today :S [01:58] camer0ff: is that bad? [01:58] I can ping my 98 from my xubuntu fine [01:59] ping doesn't need to negotiate with windows netwonting [01:59] hmm, where can I check then? [01:59] maxamillion, no not at all.. took 3 seconds to log in to the server (austnet and freenode) and join channels :S was very impressed === x2180[laptop] [n=mike@adsl-76-195-116-48.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:00] camer0ff: :) [02:00] gotta run, getting off work ... laters! [02:00] windows networking :D fun fun [02:00] Dan4: no idea, sorry. like i say, i'm now happily windows free, so i haven't even tried setting up samba [02:00] but someone should know [02:00] this machine is the only one with issues with it [02:00] !samba [02:00] samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT [02:00] what is the question? [02:00] try those === esc_on_g1ml [n=esc@i59F70DF2.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu [02:01] what is the problem Dan4 ? === JKnife [n=JKnife@unaffiliated/jknife] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:02] can't put a space in a printer URL [02:02] can you use %20 as the space? [02:02] works in HTML [02:02] apperently not [02:02] if not... get rid of the space [02:03] doesn't print [02:03] rename the printer something else [02:03] what is the path to the printer? [02:03] too many computers [02:03] 192.165.2.5/deskjet 832c [02:04] ew :( [02:05] you should save yourself some cash buy buying a new printer.. laser.. with an ethernet port [02:05] then again.. if you need colour [02:05] it works very well, no reason to buy a new one [02:06] but then again one of my printers is 21 === camer0ff was an electronics technician that worked with printers, photocopiers, etc [02:07] they work well.. but dont ever try to get them fixed :P [02:08] the cartrages are cheap for impact printers, $5 [02:08] fair enough :) [02:08] do you only do b/w printing? [02:09] no, that is why I need this deskjet going [02:09] gotcha :) [02:09] we also have a lexmark, but it has a space in the URL, and the cartrages are expensive [02:10] all but 1 have spaces [02:10] never even thought it would ever be a problem when I did it [02:11] hmm [02:11] what os are you using? [02:12] windows 95, 98, 2000, XP, NT, XUbuntu, mac OS 8.6 [02:12] xubuntu 7.04? [02:12] hmm, let me check [02:13] it is a recent one but I don't know where to check [02:13] mmm... the most recent (still in beta stages) is feisty [02:14] its 7.04 [02:14] bellow that is edgy 6.10 i think [02:14] I think it is edgy [02:14] 6.10 [02:15] kk [02:15] i am not sure if this will help... but [02:15] http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~reinholz/freebsd/smb_print_client.html [02:17] it is already set up, I can print to one of my printers now [02:18] it is strange [02:18] i havent been able to find much information :( [02:18] I know, I tried looking before I came here [02:19] such a silly problem isn't it [02:19] hmm [02:19] maybe '192.165.2.5/deskjet 832c' or "192.165.2.5/deskjet 832c" [02:19] or even... [02:19] 192.165.2.5/deskjet\ 832c [02:20] trying to remember how the slashes go [02:20] that last one doesn't work === OmniColos [n=Francisc@adsl-75-31-238-136.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:20] counts the space anyway [02:20] ah :( [02:21] with quotes it cuts it off too [02:21] dammit :( [02:21] lemmy try installing one of my other printers with spaces [02:22] have you asked in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-au? [02:22] too crowded to get a response [02:22] tried 3 times, post was off top of screen in a few seconds [02:23] damn === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [02:25] how can I clear jobs that hasn't printed? [02:26] i was given this address by pelo since he couldn't help [02:26] http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84 [02:27] i think you might have to google that one as well Dan4 [02:29] Dan4, get into #ubuntu-au :) [02:30] bob%20bob [02:30] ok I'll take a look thanks [02:30] bob\ bob [02:30] two answers i got === stephane [n=stephane@modemcable187.120-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #xubuntu [02:31] hmm, seems my printer with no spaces on my other windows 98 doesn't work either [02:31] I can't install zinf corectly [02:32] is anybody install zinf ? === stephane [n=stephane@modemcable187.120-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #xubuntu ["Quitte"] === varka_ [n=varkatop@p54a5f842.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:34] apparently it might be easier to just change the names of all the printers with spaces and then reset up the network :P [02:34] Dan4, was given this address too: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting === esc_on_grml [n=esc@i59F718FA.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === odat [n=steve@c-71-207-39-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:58] hi everyone [02:58] anyone able to compile a module? [02:58] well I'll look around, thanks for the help [02:59] no worries :) good luck [03:01] anyone able to compile a module? === esc_on_g1ml [n=esc@i59F71EDE.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu [03:06] anyone here? [03:13] odat, What is "a module"? [03:14] kalikiana_, vicam module [03:15] http://arron.dnip.net:81/files/vicam.c-2.6.16-agc-Nikolov [03:17] I'm afraid I don't use any webcam. [03:18] You might ask in #ubuntu for help if nobody in here answers. [03:29] ciao === Cinnander [n=cinn@80-235-129-164.cable.ubr01.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #xubuntu [] === esc_on_grml [n=esc@i59F72A41.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu === limbert65 [n=limbert6@65-73-120-105.nas1.ski.ia.frontiernet.net] has joined #xubuntu === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [03:50] Upgrading from Xubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 seems to have broken Sound Juicer and Rhythmbox. Sound Juicer locks up, and Rhythmbox crashes. Might have something to do with having used EasyUbuntu to install mp3 codecs before the upgrade? Any suggestions for a fix? === PiTcReW_ is now known as PiTcReW === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp41-180.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:58] can anyone point me to a tutorial on how to dual boot OSX and ubuntu on a macbook? [03:58] *xubuntu === alnoktaalt [n=alnokta@wikimedia/alnokta] has joined #xubuntu [04:03] gunny01: Could you use Parallels to do that? [04:05] or maybe this: http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/HOWTO === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.131.96] has joined #xubuntu === jlist [n=jlist@c-76-21-32-90.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:09] . === alnokt0a [n=alnokta@wikimedia/alnokta] has joined #xubuntu === camer0ff [n=crew@ppp6-211.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu === moparisthebest [n=FBI@cpe-69-133-96-111.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === LM1 [n=chatzill@71.30.48.40] has joined #xubuntu [04:34] hey [04:34] does anyone know if xubuntu (feisty) will have xfce 4.4.1 [04:34] ? === LM1 [n=chatzill@71.30.48.40] has left #xubuntu [] === LM1 [n=chatzill@71.30.48.40] has joined #xubuntu [04:57] hey [04:57] does anyone know if feisty xubuntu will have xfce 4.4.1 === nonuda [n=nonuda@61.94.130.52] has joined #xubuntu === LM1 [n=chatzill@71.30.48.40] has left #xubuntu [] === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === icicled [n=icicled@adsl-209-30-163-245.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === crdlb [n=crdlb@pool-70-104-182-161.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-178-111.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@219-106-231-98.cust.bit-drive.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.27.35] has joined #xubuntu === punsad [n=david@71.237.192.184] has joined #xubuntu [06:43] I just installed xubuntu 'alternate' install.. how is this different from regular ubuntu (other than xfce vs gnome?).... [06:44] I guess my main question... is if I'm happy with xubuntu's speed on my laptop... will ubuntu with xfce be just as fast? [06:45] anyone there? === bigfuzzyjesus [n=bigfuzzy@unaffiliated/bigfuzzyjesus] has joined #xubuntu === crdlb [n=crdlb@pool-70-104-182-161.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:49] punsad: that's the same thing... [06:50] It's just a matter of graphical environment [06:51] on a scale from 1 to 10, with 10 being 'bet my life on it' ... how certain are you that it's the same? even if I chose the 'alternate' cd for xubuntu? [06:51] 10 [06:51] cool [06:52] The core packages come from the same place, etc. - you can even install hundreds of graphical environments on the same machine, or none at all, from any CD you want [06:52] The CD simply dictates which things are available without an internet connection. [06:52] what's the reasoning behind multiverse, universe, (noname) categories for the packages? === camer0ff [n=crew@ppp102-95.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:54] main - meets free software guidelines and is supported by Canonical [06:54] restricted - does not meet free software guidelines, but is supported by Canonical [06:54] universe - meets free software guidelines but is community supported only [06:54] multiverse - is neither free nor supported [06:55] thanks so much tonyyarusso! [06:56] np [06:56] I was an ubuntu snob (been using plain old debian since 1999)... but I really think I'm warming up to ubuntu. [06:57] or would that be debian snob... whatever.. === rob_7 [n=robert@pool-151-205-9-63.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:58] hehe [06:58] universe is similar to contrib, multi to contrib-nonfree, iirc [06:59] that's exactly the way I interpretted [06:59] I'll probably continue to try to use apt-get install (I never even got used to aptitude) [07:00] thanks again [07:00] gnite === nonuda [n=nonuda@61.94.130.24] has joined #xubuntu === atarinox [n=atarinox@c-71-58-75-130.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:17] i was wondering if somebody could help me...it seems like my xubuntu install has been slowing down a lot lately...is there anything in particular i should be looking for? i havent done much as far as maintaining after installing hte OS, so maybe there's something i've neglected to do? === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.46.105] has joined #xubuntu === unikon [n=unikon@unaffiliated/unikon] has joined #xubuntu === Arkh [n=Arkh@62.152.122.140] has joined #xubuntu === aussieman [n=bobo@221.Red-88-11-217.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === _aussieman [n=bobo@221.Red-88-11-217.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === bur[n] er_ [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === v4vlad [n=v4vlad@190.49.1.88] has joined #xubuntu === LoneShadow [n=mythtv@c-24-6-162-76.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:24] hi [08:25] I upgraded from dapper to edgy [08:25] now all my windows open at top left corner, and I cant move them around [08:25] is there a way to find out if my X is upgraded to edgy ? === _aussieman- [n=bobo@221.Red-88-11-217.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === aussieman [n=bobo@221.Red-88-11-217.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === malcolmb [n=malcolm@CPE0018f8c0f33a-CM00122500768a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [08:59] exit === atarinox [n=atarinox@c-71-58-75-130.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === arualavi [n=Iva@117.Red-83-33-7.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === ben123is [n=chatzill@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu [09:05] hello [09:06] what's the difference between Applications->other->add/remove and Synaptic? === v4vlad [n=v4vlad@190.49.1.88] has left #xubuntu [] [09:07] synaptic can do more stuff [09:07] but they're working from the same data in the same way [09:08] i see [09:08] thanks [09:08] i'm new to xubunru. used fluxbuntu till now [09:09] *xubuntu [09:10] xubuntu is much nicer :) === surge [n=highvolt@dsl-240-91-192.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu [09:15] ben123is: how good is fluxbuntu? [09:18] kumamoto: it's pretty good. it's fast: requires slower hardware than xubuntu to run. I'ts not official ubuntu version yet, so it's not optimized as all ubuntu version, meaning that if you have more work with file editing than in other versions of ubuntu [09:18] meaning: less graphical shortcuts, more file editing [09:19] kumamoto: you can download their live cd and try it without installing :) [09:20] but, if your hardware is strong enough for xubuntu, i think you should stick to it [09:25] i have a feeling that xubuntu manages the hardware better the fluxbuntu: my firefox works faster. can anyone confirm that? === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5f842.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === LoneShadow [n=a@c-24-6-162-76.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:28] anyone know how I can role back to dapper from edgy ? [09:30] why would you like to do that? [09:31] my X got messed up with the upgrade :( [09:32] any window/xterm I open gets stuck at top left corner, dont have the bar with minimize or close buttons [09:32] so everything gets stacked at the left corner, and I cant move things around [09:33] LoneShadow: you don't have xfwm4 running for some reason [09:33] LoneShadow: are you sure theu pgrade finished? === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu85-84-20-61.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu [09:34] LoneShadow: i know that problem. had the same thing when upgraded from dapper. i just did a new clean install. do the same [09:35] what do you mean clean install ? [09:35] actually it did fail the first round, complained about ircd-hybrid not getting upgraded properly [09:35] so I removed the package [09:35] and re-ran the upgrade process, and this time it completed === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu85-84-20-61.clientes.euskaltel.es] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] [09:37] LoneShadow: what does 'apt-cache policy xfwm4' say? [09:37] LoneShadow: i mean install from an edgy cd, and format your hard drive before installation [09:37] ben123is: that's the windows way [09:37] ugh, I wanted to upgrade, not do a clean install :D [09:37] LoneShadow: do that only if you can't fix the problem then :) [09:38] xfwm4: [09:38] Installed: 4.3.99.1svn+r23334-0ubuntu1 [09:38] Candidate: 4.3.99.1svn+r23334-0ubuntu1 [09:38] basically my windows are missing the resize frame [09:39] LoneShadow: can you try and run xfwm4 from a terminal? [09:39] (that's the program responsible for drawing the window frames) [09:41] running xfwm4 fixed it :D [09:42] so what is wrong with my config ? [09:43] so I need to run xfwm4 from .xinitrc or something ? [09:43] LoneShadow: for some reason your xfce4-session didn't start xfwm4 === Zxynax [n=zxynax@71.39.145.229] has joined #xubuntu [09:43] LoneShadow: you might try deleting the files in ~/.cache/sessions [09:43] I've got a problem mounting a DVD-ROM drive [09:44] LoneShadow: I had problems with that version of xfwm4 crashing quite frequently for no apparent reason [09:44] LoneShadow: and if that doesn't help, inspecting /etc/xdg/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc [09:44] my current version, from feisty, is very stable [09:44] the ~/.cache/sessions is empty [09:44] as is xfdesktop which I also no longer have issues with [09:44] darrend: fortunatelly Feisty should be out this month :) [09:45] indeed. Been using it for about 4 weeks already. [09:45] I've got a problem mounting a DVD-ROM drive, can anybody lend some assistance [09:45] Zxynax: I guess you would have to be al ittle more specific [09:46] give me a second may have found the issue.... [09:46] but stay on the line :) [09:46] sure [09:46] best say what you're doing exactly, what error messages you get (if any), whether other dvd's work, etc. [09:47] darrend: yea I want to upgrade feisty, but the first step was to upgrade from dapper to edgy [09:47] drive works in vista ( only dual-booting for game support ) [09:47] LoneShadow: maybe upgrade to feisty will fix that :) [09:47] heh [09:47] LoneShadow: once you have xfwm4 running, logout and save your session. That's probably the quickest way to get it running again as normal. When you run it from a terminal, make sure you background it too ("xfwm4 &") [09:47] ok [09:47] and i've received dvd-rom hdc: request sense failure: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } that error [09:48] brb, gotta run back to my TV, its my mythtv box [09:48] Zxynax: sounds like a scratched disc [09:48] no disc was working [09:48] Zxynax: but might be a problem with support for this model as well [09:48] seems to be working great now [09:49] Zxynax: maybe a speck of dust then :) [09:49] doubtful, error has been plaguing me all day [09:49] I changed...hold on let me get specifics [09:49] Zxynax: did you change anything that it started working? [09:49] yes [09:50] some package changes [09:50] darrend: that did the trick :) [09:50] cool. :) [09:51] thanks TheSheep anddarrend [09:51] .oO( xfwm4 should be started automatically if there is no saved session anyways... ) [09:51] either a kernel change did it, or a recompile of the fs utilities [09:51] what kernel versions are you guys running ? [09:51] is it 2.6.17-11-generic ? [09:51] sheep@ghostwheel:~$ uname -a [09:51] Linux ghostwheel 2.6.20-14-generic #2 SMP [09:51] darren@hepburn ~ $ uname -a [09:51] Linux hepburn 2.6.20-12-generic #2 SMP Wed Mar 21 20:55:46 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux [09:52] is 2.6.20.x part of feisty ? [09:52] LoneShadow: yes [09:52] y [09:52] how stable is feisty ? [09:52] on xubuntu ? [09:53] stable in what way? There are still lots of package updates (another 200MB last night when I updated this box) [09:53] stable in terms of reliability? Very, so far [09:53] LoneShadow: it was stablier than edgy right from the start, then there were some trouble a month ago, but it only lasted several days until the bugfisx, now we have the first release candidate and it's stable as rock [09:53] aah [09:54] anyway my mythtv and asterisk needs to recompiled, might as well upgrade to feisty :D [09:54] to be* [09:54] /leave === Zxynax [n=zxynax@71.39.145.229] has left #xubuntu [] [09:55] LoneShadow: you use asterisk for home or work? [09:55] home === TheSheep wonders when there will be first people asking why xfce 4.4.1 is not in feisty ;) [09:55] how do you find it? I've been thinking of building an asterisk box [09:55] Why is xfce 4.4.1 not on feisty by the way, anyone know? [09:55] ;) [09:55] darrend: its a real nice piece of software, I havnt been using it that much lately, need to get things up and running === TheSheep slaps darrend around a bit with a version freeze [09:56] darrend: asterisk dosnt need much resources, if you have a dedicated pc running 24hours, you can install on it [09:56] I used to run asterisk on my linksys router before with openwrt firmware :) [09:57] but it was not powerful enough to do some transcoding, so moved it to my mythtv box === nonuda [n=nonuda@61.94.130.224] has joined #xubuntu [09:57] I wanted to use it as a voice mail station so that I could access .wav (or encoded) voicemails from my email or web. Is that fairly simple to set up? [09:58] yea [09:58] install asterisk and freepbx === TheSheep considers physically removing the floppy drive to get rid of the icon... [09:59] takes some time to understand the voip config lingo, if you hang out in #freepbx people can help you out === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:00] what kind of card do you need for a standard line (though I guess that will be country/region specific) [10:00] I have to restructure my partitions, my root partition is almost full :( [10:00] does feisty require more space compared to dapper/edgy ? [10:01] LoneShadow: probably a little bit -- but try 'apt-get clean' first === christof [n=christor@90.26.56.254] has joined #xubuntu [10:01] if you are trying to connect your asterisk box to your land line, get a sipura (spa3k) costs around US $80 [10:01] LoneShadow: it will delete all the packages you downloaded in order to do the upgrade [10:02] wow, 93% to 63% :) [10:02] oops 69% === darrend wonders if that will work in the UK [10:03] do you have a regular land line or a voip provider for phone connection ? [10:03] regular land lines === Grey_Loki [n=Loki@host86-128-113-51.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:04] but I don't know if regular in the UK is the same as regular in the US (if that's where you are) === darrend is no telecoms expert [10:04] so all you want is a way to access your voicemail thru email/http ? [10:06] mostly, yeah. I want a menuing system ("Press 1 for dilbert, 2 for alice") and then to mail dilbert or alice to say "Message waiting.." kind of thing [10:06] you should just buy the sipura device [10:07] SPA3102 or something [10:09] so whats the best way to upgrade from edgy to feisty ? [10:09] sudo upgrade-manager -c -d, I think. [10:09] !feisty [10:09] The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) [10:09] Take a look in #ubuntu+1, see what they say. === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === robert_ [n=robert@pool-151-205-8-97.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === morgs [n=morgan@ubuntu/member/morgs] has joined #xubuntu [10:36] Is there a shipit for xubuntu? http://shipit.xubuntu.com/ seems to be misconfigured or broken [10:37] morgs: no, xubuntu won't be shipped via shipit [10:37] Not even to LoCoTeams? Darn. That's the one thing everybody asks about... [10:38] that should probably just be configured to point to the Xubuntu download page explaining that it's not available for shipit. [10:38] no, not even for loco teams :'( [10:38] I agree with you, xubuntu is certainly in high demand. [10:38] Is that a service for sending a linux CD out to you if you can't dl it? [10:38] Why not just order the Ubuntu CD, then apt-get xubuntu-desktop? [10:39] Grey_Loki: we live in a bandwidth-restricted country [10:39] Grey_Loki: most users pay US$50+ just for basic dialup and the phone bill that comes along with it, and we pay per minute [10:39] with lots of older PCs... [10:40] Grey_Loki: adsl users here typically only get 2-3GB bandwidth a month [10:40] and our DSL's one of the most expensive in the world... [10:42] 40 euro (~35 dollars) for uncapped 2.5gb/s down, 1/5gb/s up fibre in parts of france === malnilion_ [n=malnilio@129.244.131.96] has joined #xubuntu [10:43] what is the most light x desktop? [10:44] highvoltage, dude, where are you - communist china!? [10:45]