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teddyl03:43
kikoaunchpad.net03:44
teddyI am haveing a hard time logging on to launchpad. Where should I go for help?03:50
kikotalk to me!03:50
kikowhat's happening?03:50
kikowe've had some performance issues that are plaguing us today03:50
teddyI have foregot which e-mails I have used and its been a long time since I have been there.03:51
kikoteddy, you can request a password reset with any of them03:52
teddyI just started using Kubuntu and I wanted to help. But it says to start with a wiki on launch pad03:53
teddyany of who?03:53
kikoof your email addresses?03:53
teddyYes but do I need to log in first?03:53
kikono.03:54
teddyI will try...thanks03:54
kikosure thing, let me know if you get stuck again!03:54
teddyThis is what I get (Your account details have not been found. Please check your subscription email address and try again.)03:55
kikotry another one :)03:55
kikomaybe you never registered?03:55
teddyI have I can see my blank page.03:55
kikowhat's the page?03:56
teddyhttps://launchpad.net/~pessagnofamily03:58
kikoteddy, click on the Confirmed email addresses portlet.03:59
teddyI don't see that.04:01
spivkiko: we don't show email addresses to unlogged in users.04:01
spivSo teddy won't be able to see that portlet until he logs in.04:02
teddyright, is there a way to just wipe it out and start over?04:03
teddyI don't want to leave thet one on there if its not used.04:04
FujitsuWhy not just tell him the email address there?04:04
kikoyeah.04:04
teddykiko, Thankyou.04:05
kikowhy, think nothing of it04:05
teddyIt is sending me an e-mail now.04:06
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teddyThanks I am looking around and making changes now.04:15
kikoteddy, enjoy! let me know if you need any help04:24
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teddykiko: It looks like I have many more night of reading. Thanks for your help I wish I would have looked around launchpad long ago.04:53
kikoteddy, no problem, and it's never too late to start. enjoy your stay04:54
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kiko-zzztime to catch those zs04:54
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ubotuNew bug: #106084 in soyuz "Missing refactoring on NascentUpload-Cataclysm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10608406:16
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bhavi_bondhello help on creating an irc channel please08:38
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bhavi_bondi have registered my nick08:39
bhavi_bond#linuxmobile. Nick has been registered08:40
bhavi_bondPlease help08:40
bhavi_bondI use Xchat08:40
bhavi_bondanyone...... This is the 7th time I am asking on different channels....08:42
bhavi_bondPlease anyone help08:42
bhavi_bondPlease anyone help08:42
bhavi_bondplease........08:43
bhavi_bondor tell the channel where I have to ask08:43
bhavi_bondhello08:44
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bhavi_bondanyone08:46
bhavi_bondhello08:46
jmlbhavi_bond: http://freenode.net/ has a bunch of helpful information. Joining the #freenode channel is a good starting place for generic IRC help.08:47
poolieirc is the most ridiculous thing...08:52
lifelessthis one time08:55
lifelessat irc camp08:55
jmlpoolie: don't forget myspace.08:55
jmland high school.08:56
lifelessand humans08:56
pooliespeaking of which, the economics quote for the day, 08:56
pooliefrom Galbraith, I think:08:56
poolie"Remember, the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent." :-)08:57
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carlosmorning09:37
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fabbionelifeless: ping?09:52
fabbioneYour SSH key does not match any key registered for Launchpad user fabbione09:52
fabbionei am getting this when doing bzr checkout via sftp09:52
fabbionebut then it doesn't ask for password09:53
fabbioneand i know for a fact that my keys in LP are good and they are the one i am using09:53
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ubotuNew bug: #106154 in launchpad "LaunchpadFormView needs separate initialize functionality" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10615411:15
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ubotuNew bug: #106162 in malone "Comments sent before duplication are received by subscribers of original bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10616211:50
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schwukhow long does it take for translation templates to be approved?02:34
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tj9991a long time02:44
tj9991approved as in the first time you've uploaded one?02:45
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Kmosbreezy EOL is today03:00
Kmosoh yeah =)03:00
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kikogood morning 03:06
Hobbseehiya kiko!03:07
kikohey Hobbsee03:07
kikowhat's going on03:07
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Kmoskiko: breezy is EOL today.. so disable it at launchpad :)03:12
kikoKmos, me?! I don't do that sort of thing!03:12
Kmos:-)03:13
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schwuktj9991: yes03:24
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sandyHey, so I'm an upstream developer who's not that familiar with launchpad03:25
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sandywhen we get upstream versions of launchpad bugs, is it sufficient for me to leave comments/etc on the upstream bug, or should I interact with the downstream bug as well?03:26
sandyand is this the correct place to ask these sorts of questions?03:27
salgadosandy, yep, this is the correct place03:27
sandysalgado: thanks :-)03:27
salgadosandy, in this case, there should be only one bug in launchpad, but you'll see that the bug is present both in upstream and downstream03:28
kikosandy, we don't want you to have to do any extra effort 03:28
kikosalgado, I think he means when upstream is in another bug tracker03:28
sandyright, I'm using GNOME bugzilla03:28
salgadoah, I see03:28
sandyI went to look at the launchpad bug, and it wasn't instantly updated or anything03:29
kikosandy, the bug watch updater runs nightly, but it only updates status information.03:29
sandybut when I mark a bug NEEDSINFO, I want to make sure the original reporter knows that03:29
kikosandy, the original reporter will get a mail notification when the updater runs, though.03:29
sandyah, but then the onus is on the reporter to track both bugs?03:30
kikoso I think what you want is correct. HOWEVER, you are right, the reporter needs to track both bugs in this case.03:30
kikosandy, we have a plan to sync in comments as well03:30
sandythat would be cool03:30
kikothat could help, but it would also be somewhat confusing because one-way syncing isn't very helpful, is it?03:31
sandyyes, but similarly, if the bug is upstream, I want to track it in GNOME bugzilla03:31
sandyI don't want the discussion fractured between the upstream and downstream trackers03:32
kikothat's exactly my point03:32
sandyoh, completely unrelated, but launchpad is much prettier now than before :-)03:32
sandyalso, I find it easier to use, though that could just be panacea since I can't think of what was hard about it before03:33
sandys/panacea/placebo03:33
sandyalright guys, thanks for your help!03:33
ddaasandy: overall, navigation is a bit more intuitive now03:36
ddaathere's also less pointless information03:36
ddaaactually, the problem now is more that some important info is too hidden now :)03:37
sandyyeah, but I don't feel overwhelmed just looking at it anymore03:37
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ddaayeah, that's probably the most important thing in the new UI03:37
sandywell, and the pretty colors03:38
SewarHi03:38
ddaano more "total information exposure" crack03:38
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SewarCan i disable the slow SSL?03:44
SewarIt stupid idea to force people with slow internet to use the slow SSL when it isn't needed, it's needed in banking sites and same sites ONLY.03:44
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kikoKmos, about breezy, it's been closed, and in the future you want to talk to the ubuntu team about that.04:02
Kmoskiko: nice, thx04:02
KmosI need to talk to a member of ubuntu team04:02
kikoKmos, #ubuntu-devel04:03
Kmosand they give launchpad admins orders04:03
Kmosha ok04:03
Kmosthx04:03
Kmos=)04:03
Kmos*ah04:03
schwukkiko: why do you use SSL for everything?04:05
kikoschwuk, it's hard to use SSL otherwise, unfortunately.04:06
kikoI'll explain as soon as I'm off the phone04:06
schwukok04:06
gnomefreakis LP messed up?04:11
kikognomefreak, no, it's spic and span04:12
gnomefreakmy homepage is a bit on the different side04:12
gnomefreakeverything is moced to the left and the colors/boarders/header and footers are gone04:12
gnomefreaks/moced/moved04:13
kikognomefreak, reload?04:13
gnomefreakty ok i really neeed to wake up a bit04:13
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Sewarkiko: why do you use SSL for everything? a lot of websites use SSL for login only, like sourceforge.net04:17
kikoSewar, it's hard to use SSL otherwise, unfortunately.04:17
kikoI'll explain as soon as I'm off the phone04:17
SteveASewar: we're going to be using plain HTTP a lot more in the future, but we need to do some careful analysis first04:18
SteveASewar: to ensure that we keep the really critical stuff on HTTPS, and so that we keep the interactions smooth when going between HTTP and HTTPS and back.04:19
Sewarso i still can't help in translate ubuntu.04:22
jribHi, I just answered a question and double posted by mistake.  What are your thoughts and allowing an "undo" action for a minute or so?04:25
jribs/thoughts and/thoughts on04:25
kikojrib, a bug for this exists04:25
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jribkiko: hmm I searched for "undo" in the launchpad product but didn't get any hits, do you happen to remember any terms that were used?04:31
kikohmmm04:32
kiko"minutes"?04:33
kikoor matsubara?04:33
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matsubarabug 8089504:53
ubotuMalone bug 80895 in malone "Give people five minutes to edit/delete their comment" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8089504:53
matsubarajrib: ^04:53
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jribmatsubara: ah thanks04:55
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laszlokhey launchpad team, are you still doing the fix it friday?05:04
kikosure!05:09
laszlokcool :)05:09
laszlokon the main bugs page for a particular project ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu ) there is no obvious way to show all bugs05:10
laszloki think there should be a link "All Bugs"05:10
nixternalI have having problems grabbing 1 translation file for kubuntu-docs, everytime I try it says it notifies rosetta@launchpad.net, however I haven't heard anything back. any ideas?05:11
nixternals/have/am/05:11
nixternalcarlos: ping?05:16
carlosnixternal: hi05:16
carlosdanilos: are you around?05:16
nixternalhey, I am having a problem with 1 translated file for kubuntu-docs05:16
nixternalkeeping-safe Slovenian translation05:16
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daniloscarlos: yes (on phone right now)05:17
nixternalI have been trying to dl it for 24 hours and I keep getting the "you have problems" email :)05:17
carlosdanilos: please, could you help nixternal?05:17
carlosnixternal: usually, when you get that error, we need to do something to fix it or to help you to fix it05:17
daniloscarlos: yes, just a minute05:17
nixternalyes, please, and I will make sure carlos buys you a round of whatever it is you are drinkng :)05:17
carlosdanilos: thank you05:17
carlosnixternal: ;-)05:17
nixternalhehe05:17
nixternalthanks carlos 05:17
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nixternalone little translation and I am done for Feisty!05:18
nixternalthen I can prepare for Gutsy05:18
carlosnixternal: ;-)05:19
nixternalheh, that is going to take some getting used to05:19
danilosok, done with the phone call, I'll look into this nixternal05:21
nixternalthanks danilos 05:21
nixternalhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/kubuntu-docs/+pots/keeping-safe/sl/+translate05:21
nixternalthat is the one in question05:21
danilosnixternal: ok, thanks (hvala :)05:23
danilosnixternal: when did you last send your request?05:25
nixternalabout 15 or so minutes ago05:25
danilosnixternal: and what's the exact response you got?05:25
nixternalRosetta encountered problems exporting the files you05:25
nixternalrequested. The Rosetta team has been notified of this05:25
nixternalproblem. Please reply to this email for further assistance.05:25
nixternalI replied either earlier today trying or last night as well05:25
danilosnixternal: I can see your email on rosetta@launchpad.net05:26
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somerville32salgado, Did you get Mark's e-mail?05:43
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salgadosomerville32, yep05:44
somerville32salgado, Seems pretty simple.05:47
salgadosomerville32, indeed, it is05:47
somerville32salgado, Is there something I'm missing? I don't see any new infrastructure that needs to be implemented to conduct the poll.05:51
salgadosomerville32, you're right, there's no missing infrastructure. it's just a matter of somebody setting up the polls 05:52
somerville32salgado, Is the staging server online?05:54
salgadosomerville32, seems to be05:54
somerville32staging.launchpad.net ?05:55
somerville32Ah, I was using stage.launchpad.net05:56
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somerville32Ugh oh, : (06:08
somerville32I made a mistake. I left the ubuntu-members team on the real launchpad server. : P06:10
kikookay, I'm off the code :)06:14
kikoerr06:14
kikothe call too.06:14
kikosandy: hey06:14
kikostill wanna know about SSL?06:14
somerville32kiko: Can you fix my mistake? : P06:16
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sandykiko: it wasn't me that was interested in SSL06:19
mpt_laszlok, it's bug 9445806:21
ubotuMalone bug 94458 in malone "bugs.launchpad.net/project and bugs.launchpad.net/proejct/+bugs are different and not obviously linked" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9445806:21
laszlokk thanks06:22
laszlokbut really, how long would that take to fix06:22
laszlokjust add a link right?06:23
mpt_That part of it would be about five minutes work06:23
mpt_(no, I'm not working now, it's 4.23am)06:23
mpt_but the rest of the issue would be a bit trickier06:24
mpt_Ideally we wouldn't show the summary for a project that had 50 open bug reports, just go straight to the list06:28
mpt_or maybe not06:28
mpt_since that would be confusing and/or annoying if you were bobbing just around that threshold06:29
laszloki think you should be consistent06:29
mpt_yeah06:29
laszlokalways show the summary, and have a prominent link to "All Bugs"06:29
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kikooh, right it was schwuck and Sewar06:45
kikobut they are both AWOL06:45
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ubotuNew bug: #106276 in launchpad "Global footer links shouldn't be domain-specific" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10627606:56
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danilosnixternal: I've located the problem, but fixing this requires some intervention by our DB admins, and it depends on the time they take to respond (it's Friday evening); I'll email you back as soon as this is resolved (I understand it may be too late for packaging this, so sorry about it)07:11
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kikonixternal, do you have any hard deadline?07:41
nixternaltoday pretty much07:41
nixternalbut we are going to go ahead and package, and if by the grace of god it gets fixed in time for us to update a package, then it will be good07:41
kikookay. at least the bug was easy to locate.07:44
nixternalhehe07:48
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SeveasWhere in the new interface can I see which teams are subteams of a particular team?09:29
pochu+members :p09:30
kikoisn't that displayed in the main page for the team?09:32
Seveasno09:35
Seveasand not in +members either09:35
Seveasand I semi-urgently need to know it for the ubuntumembers team09:35
kikohang on09:36
kikosalgado, hmmm, do you know the answer to this question?09:36
kikoSeveas, kubuntu members, ubuntu devel, edubuntu members09:38
kikoI think that's all09:38
Seveasgracias09:38
salgadoI can see Kubuntu members and others listed at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers/+members09:44
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kikosalgado, the question is how to separate between people and teams in that listing?09:45
kikofor a team with 10 members it is easy 09:45
kikowhat about for a team with 100+?09:45
salgadoso, somewhere with only the subteams? direct or indirect subteams?09:46
pochuMaybe you can display it in the main page09:46
kikosalgado, it's very useful to know direct subteams at least.09:48
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salgadoI think we had that in the old UI, didn't we?09:48
ubotuNew bug: #106319 in malone "Link to complete bug list for a product" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10631909:50
kikosalgado, I believe we did09:50
kikoso did that go away in the new UI mockups?09:51
kikomaybe it did.09:51
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ubotuNew bug: #106338 in malone "Editing a bug targeted to a release crashes if you directly edit the untargeted task " [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10633811:00
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