[03:43] <teddy> l
[03:44] <kiko> aunchpad.net
[03:50] <teddy> I am haveing a hard time logging on to launchpad. Where should I go for help?
[03:50] <kiko> talk to me!
[03:50] <kiko> what's happening?
[03:50] <kiko> we've had some performance issues that are plaguing us today
[03:51] <teddy> I have foregot which e-mails I have used and its been a long time since I have been there.
[03:52] <kiko> teddy, you can request a password reset with any of them
[03:53] <teddy> I just started using Kubuntu and I wanted to help. But it says to start with a wiki on launch pad
[03:53] <teddy> any of who?
[03:53] <kiko> of your email addresses?
[03:53] <teddy> Yes but do I need to log in first?
[03:54] <kiko> no.
[03:54] <teddy> I will try...thanks
[03:54] <kiko> sure thing, let me know if you get stuck again!
[03:55] <teddy> This is what I get (Your account details have not been found. Please check your subscription email address and try again.)
[03:55] <kiko> try another one :)
[03:55] <kiko> maybe you never registered?
[03:55] <teddy> I have I can see my blank page.
[03:56] <kiko> what's the page?
[03:58] <teddy> https://launchpad.net/~pessagnofamily
[03:59] <kiko> teddy, click on the Confirmed email addresses portlet.
[04:01] <teddy> I don't see that.
[04:01] <spiv> kiko: we don't show email addresses to unlogged in users.
[04:02] <spiv> So teddy won't be able to see that portlet until he logs in.
[04:03] <teddy> right, is there a way to just wipe it out and start over?
[04:04] <teddy> I don't want to leave thet one on there if its not used.
[04:04] <Fujitsu> Why not just tell him the email address there?
[04:04] <kiko> yeah.
[04:05] <teddy> kiko, Thankyou.
[04:05] <kiko> why, think nothing of it
[04:06] <teddy> It is sending me an e-mail now.
[04:15] <teddy> Thanks I am looking around and making changes now.
[04:24] <kiko> teddy, enjoy! let me know if you need any help
[04:53] <teddy> kiko: It looks like I have many more night of reading. Thanks for your help I wish I would have looked around launchpad long ago.
[04:54] <kiko> teddy, no problem, and it's never too late to start. enjoy your stay
[04:54] <kiko-zzz> time to catch those zs
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106084 in soyuz "Missing refactoring on NascentUpload-Cataclysm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106084
[08:38] <bhavi_bond> hello help on creating an irc channel please
[08:39] <bhavi_bond> i have registered my nick
[08:40] <bhavi_bond> #linuxmobile. Nick has been registered
[08:40] <bhavi_bond> Please help
[08:40] <bhavi_bond> I use Xchat
[08:42] <bhavi_bond> anyone...... This is the 7th time I am asking on different channels....
[08:42] <bhavi_bond> Please anyone help
[08:42] <bhavi_bond> Please anyone help
[08:43] <bhavi_bond> please........
[08:43] <bhavi_bond> or tell the channel where I have to ask
[08:44] <bhavi_bond> hello
[08:46] <bhavi_bond> anyone
[08:46] <bhavi_bond> hello
[08:47] <jml> bhavi_bond: http://freenode.net/ has a bunch of helpful information. Joining the #freenode channel is a good starting place for generic IRC help.
[08:52] <poolie> irc is the most ridiculous thing...
[08:55] <lifeless> this one time
[08:55] <lifeless> at irc camp
[08:55] <jml> poolie: don't forget myspace.
[08:56] <jml> and high school.
[08:56] <lifeless> and humans
[08:56] <poolie> speaking of which, the economics quote for the day, 
[08:56] <poolie> from Galbraith, I think:
[08:57] <poolie> "Remember, the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent." :-)
[09:37] <carlos> morning
[09:52] <fabbione> lifeless: ping?
[09:52] <fabbione> Your SSH key does not match any key registered for Launchpad user fabbione
[09:52] <fabbione> i am getting this when doing bzr checkout via sftp
[09:53] <fabbione> but then it doesn't ask for password
[09:53] <fabbione> and i know for a fact that my keys in LP are good and they are the one i am using
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106154 in launchpad "LaunchpadFormView needs separate initialize functionality" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106154
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106162 in malone "Comments sent before duplication are received by subscribers of original bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106162
[02:34] <schwuk> how long does it take for translation templates to be approved?
[02:44] <tj9991> a long time
[02:45] <tj9991> approved as in the first time you've uploaded one?
[03:00] <Kmos> breezy EOL is today
[03:00] <Kmos> oh yeah =)
[03:06] <kiko> good morning 
[03:07] <Hobbsee> hiya kiko!
[03:07] <kiko> hey Hobbsee
[03:07] <kiko> what's going on
[03:12] <Kmos> kiko: breezy is EOL today.. so disable it at launchpad :)
[03:12] <kiko> Kmos, me?! I don't do that sort of thing!
[03:13] <Kmos> :-)
[03:24] <schwuk> tj9991: yes
[03:25] <sandy> Hey, so I'm an upstream developer who's not that familiar with launchpad
[03:26] <sandy> when we get upstream versions of launchpad bugs, is it sufficient for me to leave comments/etc on the upstream bug, or should I interact with the downstream bug as well?
[03:27] <sandy> and is this the correct place to ask these sorts of questions?
[03:27] <salgado> sandy, yep, this is the correct place
[03:27] <sandy> salgado: thanks :-)
[03:28] <salgado> sandy, in this case, there should be only one bug in launchpad, but you'll see that the bug is present both in upstream and downstream
[03:28] <kiko> sandy, we don't want you to have to do any extra effort 
[03:28] <kiko> salgado, I think he means when upstream is in another bug tracker
[03:28] <sandy> right, I'm using GNOME bugzilla
[03:28] <salgado> ah, I see
[03:29] <sandy> I went to look at the launchpad bug, and it wasn't instantly updated or anything
[03:29] <kiko> sandy, the bug watch updater runs nightly, but it only updates status information.
[03:29] <sandy> but when I mark a bug NEEDSINFO, I want to make sure the original reporter knows that
[03:29] <kiko> sandy, the original reporter will get a mail notification when the updater runs, though.
[03:30] <sandy> ah, but then the onus is on the reporter to track both bugs?
[03:30] <kiko> so I think what you want is correct. HOWEVER, you are right, the reporter needs to track both bugs in this case.
[03:30] <kiko> sandy, we have a plan to sync in comments as well
[03:30] <sandy> that would be cool
[03:31] <kiko> that could help, but it would also be somewhat confusing because one-way syncing isn't very helpful, is it?
[03:31] <sandy> yes, but similarly, if the bug is upstream, I want to track it in GNOME bugzilla
[03:32] <sandy> I don't want the discussion fractured between the upstream and downstream trackers
[03:32] <kiko> that's exactly my point
[03:32] <sandy> oh, completely unrelated, but launchpad is much prettier now than before :-)
[03:33] <sandy> also, I find it easier to use, though that could just be panacea since I can't think of what was hard about it before
[03:33] <sandy> s/panacea/placebo
[03:33] <sandy> alright guys, thanks for your help!
[03:36] <ddaa> sandy: overall, navigation is a bit more intuitive now
[03:36] <ddaa> there's also less pointless information
[03:37] <ddaa> actually, the problem now is more that some important info is too hidden now :)
[03:37] <sandy> yeah, but I don't feel overwhelmed just looking at it anymore
[03:37] <ddaa> yeah, that's probably the most important thing in the new UI
[03:38] <sandy> well, and the pretty colors
[03:38] <Sewar> Hi
[03:38] <ddaa> no more "total information exposure" crack
[03:44] <Sewar> Can i disable the slow SSL?
[03:44] <Sewar> It stupid idea to force people with slow internet to use the slow SSL when it isn't needed, it's needed in banking sites and same sites ONLY.
[04:02] <kiko> Kmos, about breezy, it's been closed, and in the future you want to talk to the ubuntu team about that.
[04:02] <Kmos> kiko: nice, thx
[04:02] <Kmos> I need to talk to a member of ubuntu team
[04:03] <kiko> Kmos, #ubuntu-devel
[04:03] <Kmos> and they give launchpad admins orders
[04:03] <Kmos> ha ok
[04:03] <Kmos> thx
[04:03] <Kmos> =)
[04:03] <Kmos> *ah
[04:05] <schwuk> kiko: why do you use SSL for everything?
[04:06] <kiko> schwuk, it's hard to use SSL otherwise, unfortunately.
[04:06] <kiko> I'll explain as soon as I'm off the phone
[04:06] <schwuk> ok
[04:11] <gnomefreak> is LP messed up?
[04:12] <kiko> gnomefreak, no, it's spic and span
[04:12] <gnomefreak> my homepage is a bit on the different side
[04:12] <gnomefreak> everything is moced to the left and the colors/boarders/header and footers are gone
[04:13] <gnomefreak> s/moced/moved
[04:13] <kiko> gnomefreak, reload?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> ty ok i really neeed to wake up a bit
[04:17] <Sewar> kiko: why do you use SSL for everything? a lot of websites use SSL for login only, like sourceforge.net
[04:17] <kiko> Sewar, it's hard to use SSL otherwise, unfortunately.
[04:17] <kiko> I'll explain as soon as I'm off the phone
[04:18] <SteveA> Sewar: we're going to be using plain HTTP a lot more in the future, but we need to do some careful analysis first
[04:19] <SteveA> Sewar: to ensure that we keep the really critical stuff on HTTPS, and so that we keep the interactions smooth when going between HTTP and HTTPS and back.
[04:22] <Sewar> so i still can't help in translate ubuntu.
[04:25] <jrib> Hi, I just answered a question and double posted by mistake.  What are your thoughts and allowing an "undo" action for a minute or so?
[04:25] <jrib> s/thoughts and/thoughts on
[04:25] <kiko> jrib, a bug for this exists
[04:31] <jrib> kiko: hmm I searched for "undo" in the launchpad product but didn't get any hits, do you happen to remember any terms that were used?
[04:32] <kiko> hmmm
[04:33] <kiko> "minutes"?
[04:33] <kiko> or matsubara?
[04:53] <matsubara> bug 80895
[04:53] <ubotu> Malone bug 80895 in malone "Give people five minutes to edit/delete their comment" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80895
[04:53] <matsubara> jrib: ^
[04:55] <jrib> matsubara: ah thanks
[05:04] <laszlok> hey launchpad team, are you still doing the fix it friday?
[05:09] <kiko> sure!
[05:09] <laszlok> cool :)
[05:10] <laszlok> on the main bugs page for a particular project ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu ) there is no obvious way to show all bugs
[05:10] <laszlok> i think there should be a link "All Bugs"
[05:11] <nixternal> I have having problems grabbing 1 translation file for kubuntu-docs, everytime I try it says it notifies rosetta@launchpad.net, however I haven't heard anything back. any ideas?
[05:11] <nixternal> s/have/am/
[05:16] <nixternal> carlos: ping?
[05:16] <carlos> nixternal: hi
[05:16] <carlos> danilos: are you around?
[05:16] <nixternal> hey, I am having a problem with 1 translated file for kubuntu-docs
[05:16] <nixternal> keeping-safe Slovenian translation
[05:17] <danilos> carlos: yes (on phone right now)
[05:17] <nixternal> I have been trying to dl it for 24 hours and I keep getting the "you have problems" email :)
[05:17] <carlos> danilos: please, could you help nixternal?
[05:17] <carlos> nixternal: usually, when you get that error, we need to do something to fix it or to help you to fix it
[05:17] <danilos> carlos: yes, just a minute
[05:17] <nixternal> yes, please, and I will make sure carlos buys you a round of whatever it is you are drinkng :)
[05:17] <carlos> danilos: thank you
[05:17] <carlos> nixternal: ;-)
[05:17] <nixternal> hehe
[05:17] <nixternal> thanks carlos 
[05:18] <nixternal> one little translation and I am done for Feisty!
[05:18] <nixternal> then I can prepare for Gutsy
[05:19] <carlos> nixternal: ;-)
[05:19] <nixternal> heh, that is going to take some getting used to
[05:21] <danilos> ok, done with the phone call, I'll look into this nixternal
[05:21] <nixternal> thanks danilos 
[05:21] <nixternal> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/kubuntu-docs/+pots/keeping-safe/sl/+translate
[05:21] <nixternal> that is the one in question
[05:23] <danilos> nixternal: ok, thanks (hvala :)
[05:25] <danilos> nixternal: when did you last send your request?
[05:25] <nixternal> about 15 or so minutes ago
[05:25] <danilos> nixternal: and what's the exact response you got?
[05:25] <nixternal> Rosetta encountered problems exporting the files you
[05:25] <nixternal> requested. The Rosetta team has been notified of this
[05:25] <nixternal> problem. Please reply to this email for further assistance.
[05:25] <nixternal> I replied either earlier today trying or last night as well
[05:26] <danilos> nixternal: I can see your email on rosetta@launchpad.net
[05:43] <somerville32> salgado, Did you get Mark's e-mail?
[05:44] <salgado> somerville32, yep
[05:47] <somerville32> salgado, Seems pretty simple.
[05:47] <salgado> somerville32, indeed, it is
[05:51] <somerville32> salgado, Is there something I'm missing? I don't see any new infrastructure that needs to be implemented to conduct the poll.
[05:52] <salgado> somerville32, you're right, there's no missing infrastructure. it's just a matter of somebody setting up the polls 
[05:54] <somerville32> salgado, Is the staging server online?
[05:54] <salgado> somerville32, seems to be
[05:55] <somerville32> staging.launchpad.net ?
[05:56] <somerville32> Ah, I was using stage.launchpad.net
[06:08] <somerville32> Ugh oh, : (
[06:10] <somerville32> I made a mistake. I left the ubuntu-members team on the real launchpad server. : P
[06:14] <kiko> okay, I'm off the code :)
[06:14] <kiko> err
[06:14] <kiko> the call too.
[06:14] <kiko> sandy: hey
[06:14] <kiko> still wanna know about SSL?
[06:16] <somerville32> kiko: Can you fix my mistake? : P
[06:19] <sandy> kiko: it wasn't me that was interested in SSL
[06:21] <mpt_> laszlok, it's bug 94458
[06:21] <ubotu> Malone bug 94458 in malone "bugs.launchpad.net/project and bugs.launchpad.net/proejct/+bugs are different and not obviously linked" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94458
[06:22] <laszlok> k thanks
[06:22] <laszlok> but really, how long would that take to fix
[06:23] <laszlok> just add a link right?
[06:23] <mpt_> That part of it would be about five minutes work
[06:23] <mpt_> (no, I'm not working now, it's 4.23am)
[06:24] <mpt_> but the rest of the issue would be a bit trickier
[06:28] <mpt_> Ideally we wouldn't show the summary for a project that had 50 open bug reports, just go straight to the list
[06:28] <mpt_> or maybe not
[06:29] <mpt_> since that would be confusing and/or annoying if you were bobbing just around that threshold
[06:29] <laszlok> i think you should be consistent
[06:29] <mpt_> yeah
[06:29] <laszlok> always show the summary, and have a prominent link to "All Bugs"
[06:45] <kiko> oh, right it was schwuck and Sewar
[06:45] <kiko> but they are both AWOL
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #106276 in launchpad "Global footer links shouldn't be domain-specific" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106276
[07:11] <danilos> nixternal: I've located the problem, but fixing this requires some intervention by our DB admins, and it depends on the time they take to respond (it's Friday evening); I'll email you back as soon as this is resolved (I understand it may be too late for packaging this, so sorry about it)
[07:41] <kiko> nixternal, do you have any hard deadline?
[07:41] <nixternal> today pretty much
[07:41] <nixternal> but we are going to go ahead and package, and if by the grace of god it gets fixed in time for us to update a package, then it will be good
[07:44] <kiko> okay. at least the bug was easy to locate.
[07:48] <nixternal> hehe
[09:29] <Seveas> Where in the new interface can I see which teams are subteams of a particular team?
[09:30] <pochu> +members :p
[09:32] <kiko> isn't that displayed in the main page for the team?
[09:35] <Seveas> no
[09:35] <Seveas> and not in +members either
[09:35] <Seveas> and I semi-urgently need to know it for the ubuntumembers team
[09:36] <kiko> hang on
[09:36] <kiko> salgado, hmmm, do you know the answer to this question?
[09:38] <kiko> Seveas, kubuntu members, ubuntu devel, edubuntu members
[09:38] <kiko> I think that's all
[09:38] <Seveas> gracias
[09:44] <salgado> I can see Kubuntu members and others listed at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers/+members
[09:45] <kiko> salgado, the question is how to separate between people and teams in that listing?
[09:45] <kiko> for a team with 10 members it is easy 
[09:45] <kiko> what about for a team with 100+?
[09:46] <salgado> so, somewhere with only the subteams? direct or indirect subteams?
[09:46] <pochu> Maybe you can display it in the main page
[09:48] <kiko> salgado, it's very useful to know direct subteams at least.
[09:48] <salgado> I think we had that in the old UI, didn't we?
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106319 in malone "Link to complete bug list for a product" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106319
[09:50] <kiko> salgado, I believe we did
[09:51] <kiko> so did that go away in the new UI mockups?
[09:51] <kiko> maybe it did.
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106338 in malone "Editing a bug targeted to a release crashes if you directly edit the untargeted task " [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106338