=== yharrow_mobile [n=sysadmin@unaffiliated/yharrow] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === coz_ [n=coz_@pool-68-162-130-212.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === yharrow [n=sysadmin@unaffiliated/yharrow] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === yharrow_mobile [n=sysadmin@unaffiliated/yharrow] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === yharrow [n=sysadmin@unaffiliated/yharrow] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === yharrow [n=sysadmin@unaffiliated/yharrow] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas [n=klepas@ppp167-251-133.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PWill [n=paul@cpe-24-208-190-43.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h101n1fls31o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bersace [n=bersace@81.185.36.32] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h101n1fls31o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549557FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === frandavid100 [n=david@84.123.97.4.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:34] hello! [01:35] morning andreasn :) [01:35] hi there frandavid100 [01:35] how are things? [01:36] good, almost reaching the weekend [01:42] you asked something about stock-icons the other day, right? [01:42] I had to run and then got home in the middle of the night === dborg [n=daniel@e182048210.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:05] frandavid100: it seems that the 20x20 icons are included in tangerine, but not in the index.theme file [02:05] hey kwii [02:05] hi :-) [02:06] I reinstalled tangerine [02:06] and I noticed the 16px versions of those icons don't show [02:06] can you check that? [02:07] yeah, the 16x16 versions are missing === mansours [n=chatzill@d57-116-84.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:07] I that a bug or...? [02:07] IS that a bug or...? [02:08] hey [02:09] I can give you the 16px versions for all of them if you want them [02:09] there are some other gtk-icons missing, like the run icon when you press alt+F2 [02:20] that would be great [02:20] I think that in the near future these icons will be put where they belong and not in tangerine anymore [02:21] so this is really just to get them in right now [02:23] btw, the tar file in the bug seems to be corrupted or such [02:26] where is lapo when you need him? ;-) [02:27] the gtk-stock icons are in gtk+ trunk now [02:31] that is really good (but won't change things for feisty I guess) [02:32] I'm not sure when the next gtk version comes out exactly, probably in october with the 2.20 release === mansours [n=chatzill@d57-116-84.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:42] sorry, I was doing something else [02:42] do you want me to pack the whole thing and send it to you, kwwii? [02:42] frandavid100: yes, please - not sure what is going on with the other tar file [02:43] and the 16x16 icons are an important addition I think === klepas [n=klepas@60-242-104-119.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo [n=lapo@host238-223-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [04:59] hi there === illern [n=illern@c83-252-239-167.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:23] lapo, are you around? [05:23] frandavid100: yes, I think [05:23] I've just seen your message in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tangerine-icon-theme/+bug/102581 [05:23] Malone bug 102581 in tangerine-icon-theme "20x20 new icons not in index.theme" [Undecided,Fix released] [05:24] with "sources", you mean the SVGs? [05:24] frandavid100: yep, but before that are you sure those icons are used in 16x16 [05:24] totally [05:25] where? [05:25] frandavid100: I mean gtk ships those icons only in the sizes provided [05:25] liferea uses apply in the sources menu [05:25] rhythmbox uses cancel in the podcast dialog [05:25] ugh [05:25] it's used to cancel downloads [05:26] those are two examples, but I think other apps use them too [05:26] synaptic uses apply too, now that I think of it [05:27] ok, it's a bit of an "icon abuse" but hey, better to stare at bad nice icons that ugly ones :-) [05:27] sure thing [05:27] frandavid100: sources! :-) [05:27] they won't need to be added to tangerine though [05:28] I think is the fastest path [05:29] at this stage, wouldn't it be easier to put the missing icons in tangerine directly, as the others are already there? [05:29] I wouldn't want to "pollute" tango icon theme with anything else then application icons [05:29] lapo [05:29] this is what we did [05:30] I have made a "common icons" theme for tango and tangerine to inherit from [05:30] and mailed it to you [05:30] it has the pngs and the sources too [05:31] frandavid100: yeah I know icon theme tricks, but we need to package things :-) [05:31] also, mailed kwwii a version of tangerine without the duplicate icons [05:31] yeah, I just got that mail, reading now [05:32] frandavid100: the stock icon are going to live in gtk, the tangerine inclusion was just me bugging people to have them somewhere [05:32] the most important thing at this point would be to not ask for too big of a change without knowing that it will definitly work [05:32] frandavid100: in the long run the stock stuff is going to be removed from tangerine [05:32] yup [05:32] so, we choosed to ship the icons in tangerine [05:33] but it would be easier to just remove the common theme when they get into gtk [05:33] that way tangerine doesn't need to be "polluted", it's all apart [05:33] it's a cleaner solution, I think [05:33] frandavid100: it would be one more package, and since the inclusion was somewhere around the freeze that was the quickest path [05:34] hm... [05:34] you've got a point there [05:34] frandavid100: I don't really care about adding stuff to tangerine, since I'm in charge with it and I can fixup my mess later :-) [05:34] so, how about it [05:35] there are some gtk icons missing in tangerine, like the run icon [05:35] frandavid100: that's a missing i-n-u link [05:35] I can dump all the icons in common in tangerine [05:35] i-n-u? [05:35] frandavid100: g-i-t sports a run icon which not get correctly linked I think [05:36] frandavid100: if some other icon is missing from tangerine and git it's my fault, but we can fix it I think [05:36] tangerine-icon-theme, tango-icon-theme and gnome-icon-theme [05:37] I'm going to talk to the release manager now.... [05:37] so we want to add these icons to tangerine for feisty? [05:37] just one thing, what would happen to tango? [05:37] we can do it the right way for gutsy [05:37] would it inherit them from tangerine, or just sport the old ones? [05:38] unless tango inherits tangerine it will still miss the icons [05:38] kwwii: yeah, it's really minor stuff it should not brake stuff, but I'm on edgy now and I need to test it later [05:38] yep [05:38] so should we add a inheritance to tangerine in the tango theme? [05:38] kwwii: nope [05:39] tango should stay like that [05:39] ok, cool [05:39] shame :( [05:39] we want the missing stuff there, most of the missing icons are stuff that should not be used [05:41] tango icon theme is just an example implementation of the tango guidelines [05:41] so we want to do things right with it [05:41] gnome-icon-theme and tangerine-icon-theme are icon themes implementing the tango guidelines [05:42] I know it can be hard to get, but it's the way it is :-) [05:46] I'm checking which icons from gtk might be missing in tangerine [05:46] stuff like sort-descending, gtk-close [05:47] and adding them to tangerine [05:47] can I send it to you when I'm done, lapo? [05:48] sort descending and gtk-close are in gnome-icon-theme I believe, no? [05:48] frandavid100: yeah, feel free to send, thanks [05:48] frandavid100: can you CC me on that, so that I can bug the right person to get the stuff included [05:49] sure [05:50] frandavid100: are there places where sort-descending doesn't show up correctly? I did that icon for g-i-t for sure [05:50] I've dumped all the png into the folder, and I'm gonna include all the sources separately [05:50] not sure about that lapo [05:50] I don't think I've ever seen that icon used anywhere === amrlima [n=amrlima@81.20.249.22] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === amrlima [n=amrlima@81.20.249.22] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] [05:56] done :) [05:57] later guys [06:11] gotta go, see you later! === frandavid100 [n=david@84.123.97.4.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === andreasn_ [n=andreas@h101n1fls31o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn_ [n=andreas@h101n1fls31o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === yharrow_mobile [n=sysadmin@unaffiliated/yharrow] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bersace [n=bersace@81.185.36.32] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === darkmatter [n=darkmatt@unaffiliated/darkmatter] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === frandavid100 [n=david@84.123.97.4.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn_ is now known as andreasn === frandavid100 [n=david@84.123.97.4.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === yharrow_mobile [n=sysadmin@unaffiliated/yharrow] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === yharrow_mobile [n=sysadmin@unaffiliated/yharrow] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork