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[01:21] <superm1> keescook, okay i got a debdiff ready
[01:21] <superm1> i tested its changes and so did majoridiot
[01:22] <majoridiot> :)
[01:23] <superm1> its attached to bug 105948
[01:23] <ubotu> Malone bug 105948 in mythtv "Update Notifier notification isn't installed" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105948
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[01:32] <keescook> superm1: cool!
[01:36] <keescook> superm1: urgh.  I wish there was a better way to handle the backend start/stop... :(  doing that kill/xterm seems hackish, but I guess it'll be okay
[01:36] <superm1> well its just taken right from the init script
[01:36] <superm1> but since mythtv cant do the init script without sudo
=== keescook nods
[01:37] <majoridiot> i think i'll give the RC a testdrive on my main box when it finally drops...
[01:38] <majoridiot> see if it plays any nicer than herd 5 did.
[01:38] <superm1> majoridiot, just upgrade with update-manager
[01:38] <superm1> i did it to my desktop last night
[01:38] <majoridiot> i had probs with hardware, as i recall.  wanna try the livecd first.
[01:42] <superm1> keescook, everything else look good though?
[01:42] <keescook> superm1: yeah, I'll get it built and uploaded in a few minutes.
[01:42] <superm1> keescook, awesome!
[01:42] <keescook> did Hobbsee say when universe freezes?
[01:42] <superm1> today
[01:43] <keescook> this area should be cleaned up for feisty+1, though, I'm not sure how.  :)
[01:43] <superm1> which area should be cleaned up for feisty+1?
[01:44] <keescook> the backend start/stop business.  :)
[01:44] <superm1> oh of course
[01:44] <superm1> well thats plenty of time to think
[01:44] <superm1> and it only is affected on standalone installs
[01:44] <superm1> its still clean for mythtv-setup.sh
[01:52] <majoridiot> ok... second run through and mythbackend is running as it should be after the fill.
[01:52] <majoridiot> :)
[01:52] <majoridiot> all systems go.
[01:54] <superm1> okay majoridiot you just need a screen cap from that one thing in a desktop install now right?
[01:54] <majoridiot> frontend 100% as well.
[01:54] <superm1> for starting mythtv-setup?
[01:54] <majoridiot> yes
[01:54] <majoridiot> *thinking*
[01:54] <majoridiot> i should be able to cap the ssh session for server stuff, so that should be it.
[01:55] <majoridiot> at the risk of redundantly repeating myself ad-nauseum-
[01:55] <majoridiot> best...install...EVER.
[01:56] <superm1> hehe
[01:56] <superm1> well do we have all ends covered now for someone doing a GUI install
[01:56] <superm1> to stay away from command line?
[01:56] <superm1> that was the big thing i was hoping for
[01:56] <majoridiot> should never have to open a terminal.
[01:56] <majoridiot> :D
[01:57] <superm1> k good
=== majoridiot really wishes at least *some* mention of superm1's hard work on these packages had been left on the "what's new" page
=== majoridiot understands, just the same.
[01:59] <superm1> i dont like to be modest in documentation
[01:59] <majoridiot> immodest?
[01:59] <majoridiot> hehe
[01:59] <majoridiot> 'cause yer WAY too modest sometimes.
[01:59] <superm1> haha
[01:59] <majoridiot> shall i do a server install?
[01:59] <majoridiot> and cap that stuff?
[02:00] <superm1> which stuff is needed in the server install yet?
[02:00] <majoridiot> are there new prompts for the auto mythfill, etc or is that just for desktops?
[02:01] <superm1> yea those are there
[02:01] <majoridiot> k
[02:01] <majoridiot> i'll grab 'em ssh
[02:01] <superm1> but you can just use the desktop screen shots, because they will be done using zentiy
[02:01] <superm1> zenity
[02:01] <majoridiot> nothing left to test before i format this desktop?
[02:01] <superm1> na i dont think so.  as long as these changes worked as expected
[02:02] <majoridiot> eh... i'll cap the zenity shots... they are *slightly* different and some people get anal when the pix don't match the words. (unless you say forget it)
[02:02] <majoridiot> it's up and running fine- although no tuners.  LOL
[02:02] <superm1> well nothing has changed that would break anything else
[02:03] <superm1> all packaging changes
[02:03] <superm1> so no worries there
[02:03] <keescook> superm1: uploaded!
[02:03] <superm1> awesome keescook!
[02:03] <superm1> wow thats like 8 or 9 mythtv bug fixes in 3 days
[02:04] <superm1> :)
[02:04] <keescook> :):)
[02:05] <majoridiot> that's all?
[02:05] <majoridiot> JUST 8 or 9?
[02:05] <majoridiot> slacker.
[02:18] <majoridiot> vg. ty. :)
[02:18] <superm1> good
[02:18] <majoridiot> looks like i finally got the auto dcc setup.
[02:19] <superm1> dcc'ing is much easier on campus
[02:19] <superm1> doesnt have to fight firewall at home
[02:20] <majoridiot> these changes are in?  guide should be updated now?
[02:20] <superm1> it wont hurt to update it, builds will be on mirrors by tomorrow
[02:21] <majoridiot> k
[02:21] <majoridiot> i'll do the server stuff and then update the pages
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[03:23] <majoridiot> superm1: guide changes complete
[03:23] <superm1> good good
[03:23] <superm1> hopefully these show up to the mirrors soon
[03:25] <majoridiot> oops... forgot the mythtv-setup :S
[03:25] <majoridiot> lol
[03:38] <majoridiot> done.
[03:38] <majoridiot> time to eat something.
[03:38] <majoridiot> biab
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[04:32] <majoridiot> hm. missed him.
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[05:40] <majoridiot> hm. still no RC.  deadline missed?
[05:52] <billbrasky> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000279.html
[05:53] <majoridiot> where have you been billy-boy, billy-boy...
[05:53] <majoridiot> ty ;)
[05:53] <billbrasky> billy baroo
[05:53] <majoridiot> oh billy, billy, billy, billy....
=== billbrasky is frustrated with hardware
[05:53] <majoridiot> LMAO a classic!
[05:53] <billbrasky> hehe
[05:53] <billbrasky> agreed
[05:53] <majoridiot> what'cha fightin?
[05:53] <billbrasky> i have a bushwood cc t-shirt i wear once in a while
[05:53] <billbrasky> completely new system
[05:54] <billbrasky> won't power up for some reason
[05:54] <billbrasky> (my new myth system)
[05:54] <majoridiot> you built it?
[05:54] <billbrasky> yea
[05:54] <majoridiot> all new stuff?
[05:54] <billbrasky> been reseating stuff, and whatnot
[05:54] <billbrasky> i think all new
[05:54] <billbrasky> *scratching head*
[05:54] <billbrasky> case is used
[05:54] <majoridiot> do you get any BIOS beeps?
[05:54] <billbrasky> :-)
[05:55] <billbrasky> nothing
[05:55] <billbrasky> weird stuff too
[05:55] <billbrasky> like cpu fan won't spin up
[05:55] <billbrasky> but gpu fan will
[05:55] <majoridiot> wow
[05:55] <billbrasky> i don't have any other hardware around here to troubleshoot & swap around
[05:56] <billbrasky> plus been busy with other stuff too  :-/
[05:56] <majoridiot> have you tried resetting the bios?
[05:56] <billbrasky> i had lots of stuff available to play with at the last job, so i'd usually just bring it in to work to do all my work with
[05:56] <billbrasky> not yet
[05:56] <billbrasky> the mobo 'manual' is a fold out poster/pamphlet
[05:56] <billbrasky> i couldn't believe it
[05:56] <majoridiot> i'd start with a bios reset
[05:56] <billbrasky> ea
[05:56] <billbrasky> yea
[05:56] <majoridiot> LMAO ew.
[05:56] <majoridiot> what mobo?
[05:57] <billbrasky> i have a list of 20 things to try
[05:57] <billbrasky> foxconn something or other
[05:57] <majoridiot> have you tried a diff power supply also?
[05:57] <billbrasky> no that's on my list :-)
[05:57] <majoridiot> ah
[05:57] <majoridiot> start there
[05:58] <majoridiot> that would explain GPU but no cpu, etc.
[05:58] <majoridiot> different PS circuits. :)
[05:58] <billbrasky> i've pared down my pc part collection... moved in with the gf to a place that is 600 sq ft. doesn't allow for 14 computers :-)
[05:58] <billbrasky> yep
[05:58] <majoridiot> and do it fast... if that PS is cooked, you could bork the mobo with bad voltages.
[05:58] <billbrasky> right
=== majoridiot stops with the bleeding obvious
[05:59] <billbrasky> hehe
[05:59] <billbrasky> np
[05:59] <billbrasky> i got frustrated at not having any parts around here to swap out & test with
[06:00] <majoridiot> get milk crates, dude... they are stackable
[06:00] <majoridiot> (in case the GF has a sq ft rule)
[06:00] <majoridiot> ;)
[06:00] <billbrasky> haha
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[06:01] <majoridiot> getting rid of the sweaters alone would probably free up enough room for 2 or 3 good boxes.
[06:01] <billbrasky> hehe
[06:02] <billbrasky> looks like you guys been busy with the myth packages
[06:02] <billbrasky> & documentation
=== majoridiot is just trying to keep up with superm1
[06:02] <billbrasky> looks good
[06:02] <majoridiot> the "final" package for the moment is sheer brilliance.
[06:03] <superm1> well i think that this pretty much is "final"
[06:03] <superm1> supposed to freeze universe tonite
[06:03] <majoridiot> for desktop installs, you only need to open a terminal to change the bind address for mysql and then again for a final start and test of the backend.  all the rest is now GUI
[06:04] <billbrasky> impressive
[06:04] <superm1> well you dont even have to do that much necessarily :)
[06:04] <majoridiot> superm1: you had been quiet for a little while... wasn't sure what you were up to ;)
[06:04] <billbrasky> i've been dying to use ubuntu as a base for myth
[06:04] <superm1> majoridiot, i've been working on hw.  i heard my computer beep and came back
[06:05] <majoridiot> superm1: anything good?
[06:05] <majoridiot> or just maintenance?
[06:05] <superm1> oh i heard it beep because you said my name ;)
[06:07] <majoridiot> i'm just sitting here trying to see the appeal of aqua teen hungerforce
[06:08] <billbrasky> haha
[06:08] <billbrasky> i dig the show
[06:08] <majoridiot> i was hoping haha... it just eludes me.
[06:08] <majoridiot> and i dig odd humor
[06:08] <billbrasky> but i can see why some people don't like it
[06:09] <majoridiot> it's not "not like" per se, i'm just indifferent.  i think i've chucked twice in three or four viewings
[06:09] <billbrasky> right
[06:09] <billbrasky> what shows are your faves?
[06:10] <majoridiot> classic stuff- fawlty towers, the dick van dyke show... well mst anything on tvland
[06:11] <billbrasky> ha
[06:11] <majoridiot> more modern stuff... anything from newsradio to little brittain
[06:11] <majoridiot> my name is earl 30 rock and the office are current faves
[06:11] <superm1> majoridiot, do u get bbc america?
[06:11] <majoridiot> yup
[06:12] <majoridiot> via firewire :)
[06:12] <superm1> there is this show that i've been watching on it that i like
[06:12] <superm1> Gordon Ramsey's: The F Word
[06:12] <superm1> i dont have digital cable anymore (just analog), so i've been torrenting it, but i love this show
[06:12] <billbrasky> yea i just started watching 30 rock
[06:12] <billbrasky> office is funny stuff
[06:12] <billbrasky> i like the original office too
[06:13] <billbrasky> where you guys going tomorrow?
[06:13] <superm1> class, work, bars?
[06:14] <billbrasky> oops, wrong window ;-)
[06:14] <superm1> haha
[06:14] <majoridiot> superm1: is it running currently?  i can't find it in the scheduler
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[06:14] <superm1> haha
[06:14] <superm1> it should be
[06:14] <superm1> i dont know i spelled his name right
[06:14] <superm1> but the f word is pretty straightforward
[06:15] <majoridiot> well i've looked under G R T and F
[06:15] <superm1> maybe they are on a break right now, i know they were running new eps last month or two
[06:15] <billbrasky> what is it ?
[06:15] <superm1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F-Word
[06:15] <billbrasky> oh that chef dude
[06:16] <superm1> yea he is an ass to all of his chef amateurs
[06:16] <superm1> its helarious
[06:16] <billbrasky> argh, getting late. c'yall later.
[06:18] <majoridiot> ah.  off-schedule.  i'll keep my eyes open, tho.
[06:19] <superm1> k
[06:19] <superm1> the only show i watched on BBC america if that means much
[06:19] <superm1> oh i better get going
[06:19] <superm1> i dont want to miss the bus again
[06:19] <superm1> tonite
[06:19] <majoridiot> later
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[08:10] <superm1> gardengnome, around?
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[09:24] <Xenocide> hey majoridiot you there?
[09:25] <majoridiot> kinda
[09:25] <majoridiot> 'sup?
[09:25] <Xenocide> i think im gonna redo my mythtv box, setup it up with different harddrives am i pretty much clear to go to feisty
[09:26] <majoridiot> you'll like the new feisty packages :)
[09:26] <majoridiot> doing laundry... keep talkin away, i'll brb.
[09:29] <majoridiot> yes... the feisty packages are clear to go.
[09:29] <majoridiot> the most recent should be in your local mirror by now... it is in the one that i use.
[09:30] <Xenocide> cool
[09:30] <Xenocide> i just hope the blue screen bug doesn't pop back up for me
[09:30] <majoridiot> ?
[09:30] <Xenocide> yea im doing laundry too
[09:30] <majoridiot> blue screen bug?
[09:30] <Xenocide> actually time to go get the clothes out f the dryer too
[09:30] <Xenocide> brb
[09:30] <majoridiot> np
[09:30] <Xenocide> i had the blueman group looking people, mario submitted those screenshots to ATI devs
[09:30] <Xenocide> idk if he told you
[09:31] <Xenocide> brb
[09:31] <majoridiot> oh that.  don't get your hopes up.  ATI has pretty much said no support now... nor for the forseeable future.
[09:33] <majoridiot> i just pulled the radeon 9600 out of my backend box and put in a spare nvidia 5500FX.  got tired of fighting the ATI drivers to ge TV out working and their little announcement about incompatibility, etc. kinda sealed the deal.  no more ATI for me.
[09:36] <Xenocide> well
[09:37] <Xenocide> sadly my frontend/backend box is pci-express
[09:37] <Xenocide> and i don't want to go shelling out $$
[09:37] <Xenocide> agp fine i can get a card for next to nothing
[09:37] <majoridiot> yeah
[09:38] <Xenocide> i hate laundry!!!
[09:38] <majoridiot> i just put in a (regular) pci 5500
[09:38] <Xenocide> i could probabbly do that but i just don't want to spend any $$
[09:39] <majoridiot> i had spares, so it worked out ok.
[09:39] <Xenocide> damn my jeans are still wet
[09:44] <Xenocide> its possible for mythvideo to pull off a share right?
[09:46] <majoridiot> absolutely
[09:47] <majoridiot> as long as the permissions are set right
[09:47] <majoridiot> basically chmod -R a+r <path>
[09:47] <majoridiot> to set read permissions globally
[09:47] <Xenocide> cool
[09:48] <Xenocide> impulling 600gb out and using freenas instead
[09:48] <majoridiot> in fact, i want to setup my xvid drive on this frontend  so the backend can share it
[09:49] <majoridiot> so i can watch xvids on the main tv when it is workin
[09:55] <majoridiot> i will say that the one beauty thing about laundry day...
[09:55] <majoridiot> cleeeeeeeeen sheeeeeeeeets.
[09:55] <majoridiot> :D
[09:57] <Xenocide> haha i almost done with mine
[09:58] <Xenocide> for the feisty LIRC package, i don't need mario's repository for the pvr-150 remote, right?
[09:58] <majoridiot> right
[09:58] <Xenocide> looks like its so much easier to install
[09:58] <majoridiot> MUCH :)
[09:58] <Xenocide> no ivtv, or anything
[09:58] <majoridiot> nope
[09:58] <Xenocide> damn boy you should hav ehad me use fesity before
[09:59] <majoridiot> it wasn't quite ready
[09:59] <majoridiot> but it sure is now.
[09:59] <Xenocide> when did it become "ready"
[09:59] <majoridiot> last night.
[09:59] <majoridiot> LOL
[09:59] <Xenocide> LOL
[09:59] <majoridiot> that was when the final changes were uploaded.
[09:59] <majoridiot> are you doing a server or desktop install?
[10:00] <Xenocide> and what were they
[10:00] <Xenocide> alt
[10:00] <Xenocide> so pretty much server
[10:00] <Xenocide> openbox gui
[10:00] <majoridiot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Feisty_new
[10:01] <Xenocide> even mythweb is fixed :)
[10:01] <Xenocide> bravo
[10:02] <majoridiot> he has been busy. :)
[10:03] <Xenocide> if only suspsend worked on feisty on my laptop
[10:03] <Xenocide> works fine in edgy, so weird
[10:05] <majoridiot> did the driver change?  if so, you might be able to downgrade until it is fixed.
[10:05] <Xenocide> not sure
[10:05] <Xenocide> this late, it might not be fixed
[10:05] <majoridiot> my ethernet driver was broken for WOL in edgy but the new ver in feisty is fixed.
[10:06] <majoridiot> as a later upgrade, possibly.
[10:06] <Xenocide> like it comes up but X is artifacted
[10:06] <Xenocide> its weird
[10:06] <Xenocide> i just have to restart X control alt backspace
[10:07] <majoridiot> hm.  have you searched for a bugreport?
[10:07] <Xenocide> nope
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[10:25] <superm1> majoridiot, just sent u a note
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[11:10] <Xenocide> even the feisty cd isntalls faster
[11:10] <majoridiot> yup
[11:10] <Xenocide> im doing it right now
[11:10] <Xenocide> i decided to not move hdds around
[11:11] <Xenocide> even thought there are 3 ontop of eachother and almost no air ill keep it in there and jus tmove the mythtv files to the 200gb boot drive
[11:11] <majoridiot> airflow is key
[11:15] <Xenocide> i know
[11:15] <Xenocide> this case eallows for a good amount but none near hdd
[11:15] <Xenocide> htpc case
[11:15] <Xenocide> 3 hdds stacked ontop of eachother absoultely NO room
[11:15] <Xenocide> they get pretty hot
[11:17] <Xenocide> burning to the touch
[11:17] <majoridiot> that's way too hot, man.
[11:17] <majoridiot> yer gonna cook 'em.
[11:17] <Xenocide> yupppp
[11:17] <Xenocide> yup
[11:18] <majoridiot> at least get heat sinks for them or something
[11:18] <Xenocide> tempted to pull them out
[11:18] <Xenocide> heatsinks..for harddrves
[11:18] <Xenocide> wtf
[11:19] <majoridiot> yeah
[11:19] <Xenocide> i have never heard of t hat
[11:19] <majoridiot> i have a couple
[11:20] <Xenocide> maybe if its in a 5.25 bay but not a standard one
[11:20] <Xenocide> what do they look like
[11:20] <majoridiot> yes 5.25
[11:20] <Xenocide> oh ok
[11:29] <Xenocide> well i ended up taking them out
[11:29] <Xenocide> they were way too hot
[11:30] <majoridiot> likely for the best
[11:30] <majoridiot> if they are too hot to touch, the would not have survived long.
[11:43] <Xenocide> eh its hung at running local bootscripts but i can ssh into it
[11:43] <majoridiot> no... it just looks like it is
[11:43] <majoridiot> go ahead and login
[11:43] <majoridiot> from time to time that alt boots with a goofy screen.
[11:44] <Xenocide> and i should use the pvr150 module
[11:44] <Xenocide> incase i want ir blaster?
[11:44] <majoridiot> for some reason it throws up the login before the init scrips are done.
[11:44] <Xenocide> i didn' teven know he put that in there
[11:44] <majoridiot> pvr150 for oncard blaster, yes.
[11:44] <majoridiot> mceusb or mceusb2 for usb blaster
[11:45] <Xenocide> pvr150 will also support the remote as well though
[11:45] <Xenocide> right?
[11:45] <majoridiot> yes... build 12c and pvr150
[11:45] <majoridiot> that will do remote and blaster
[11:46] <Xenocide> oh both of them
[11:46] <Xenocide> crap
[11:46] <Xenocide> i thought the pvr150 package included i2c
[11:47] <majoridiot> sokay...
[11:48] <majoridiot> start again with the dpkg-reconfigure step
[11:56] <Xenocide> does this run without openbox or something?
[11:56] <majoridiot> the backend only?  yes.
[11:56] <Xenocide> no frontend as well
[11:57] <Xenocide> does not ask for X server
[11:57] <Xenocide> in the package?
[11:57] <majoridiot> frontend rund openbox
[11:57] <majoridiot> runs
[11:57] <Xenocide> k
[11:57] <Xenocide> and why does it tell me not to install ati drivers
[11:57] <Xenocide> it says later
[11:57] <Xenocide> but never says when
[11:58] <majoridiot> you can install the drivers as soon as you have myth installed.
[11:58] <Xenocide> k
[12:07] <Xenocide> wow mythtv spash and everything
[12:07] <majoridiot> yup
[12:08] <Xenocide> this says i should have had to login and run mythtv setup but it did it for me so i don't have to worry about adding myself to the group, correctr?
[12:08] <majoridiot> correct
[12:12] <Xenocide> once i get mythsetup working fine probabbly about time to do ati drivers?
[12:12] <majoridiot> sure
[12:13] <majoridiot> any time after the mythtv packages are installed is fine
[12:13] <Xenocide> what guide should i use
[12:14] <majoridiot> ?
[12:14] <Xenocide> for installing ati drivers
[12:14] <Xenocide> any special way
[12:15] <majoridiot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/Feisty or your preference...
[12:16] <Xenocide> wow these help files are way nicer too :)
[12:17] <Xenocide> nj on those ;)
[12:17] <majoridiot> ty
[12:23] <Xenocide> everything just works :)