[12:00] <Pricey> Darwin, #ubuntu+1 please :)
[12:01] <nero> excellent. :)
[12:01] <octol> clear
[12:01] <octol> oop
[12:01] <UNDERsoN> Who know when nero 3 for linux will be avalible
[12:01] <jericho> got a wireless question if anyone is free to help
[12:01] <ffm> UNDERsoN: It is not FLOSS, so we dont support it.
[12:01] <duelboot> !ask jerico
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask jerico - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <duelboot> !ask
[12:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:02] <what_if> I only have sound in Flash9 and XMMS and have no idea where to start (googled already)
[12:02] <ardchoille> Is there a file that I can 'ls -lha' to see the exact date and time I installed Ubuntu on this box? Or some other way?
[12:02] <jericho> just migrated to Edgy and i can't seem to get my wifi antenna to turn on. using a gateway laptop with a broadcom 4320
[12:03] <duelboot> jericho, did you use fwcutter?
[12:03] <duelboot> jericho, i think that's the name
[12:03] <jericho> no, i'm a linux newb
[12:03] <addams> how do i clean my temporary internet files ?
[12:03] <macd> ardchoille, I do think there is a install log in /var/log/ should have datestamps
[12:03] <jericho> would i find that under the packet manager?
[12:03] <jericho> *package
[12:03] <duelboot> 2 things jericho ... use the ubuntu wiki for wireless and look up the broadcom driver section as well
[12:03] <macd> addams, what browser?
[12:03] <ardchoille> macd: Ah, thaks, I'll have a look in there.
[12:04] <duelboot> jericho, am on the phone but can assist more in a little bit
[12:04] <jericho> ok... thanks duelboot. i'll look into those and hop back on here if i have any further questions
[12:04] <Mr_Giraffe> i'm getting a weird error every time i try to run nautilus as root
[12:04] <Weems> for some reason skype wont load http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15281/
[12:04] <Mr_Giraffe> can i paste it in here?
[12:04] <macd> Mr_Giraffe, no use pastebin.,
[12:04] <Weems> pastebin.ca
[12:05] <Mr_Giraffe> gotcha.
[12:06] <d00d> Can someone help me with the livecd
[12:06] <Pricey> Mr_Giraffe, solution is don't run nautilus as root... its dangerous ;)
[12:07] <Mr_Giraffe> good point
[12:07] <Mr_Giraffe> well all i want to do is install some fonts, and it won't let me unless i use nautilus as root :[
[12:07] <d00d> my damn x wont stat livecd!
[12:08] <elriah> Hi all.  I'm trying to figure out how my memory in a server is being utilized.  I'm running 6.06LTS Server, AMD kernel.  I have Apache2/PHP5 installed and doing some simple web apps.  Right now, in 'top', It says I have 2017800k used and 51280k free.  But when I add up the running apps memory usage, it's only about 1GB, not the 2GB top is telling me.  Can anyone shed light on this?
[12:08] <Pricey> Mr_Giraffe, you can install fontsusing your user account...
[12:08] <Pricey> Mr_Giraffe, just drop them in ~/.fonts afaik
[12:08] <Mr_Giraffe> ...really?
[12:08] <Mr_Giraffe> i thought i had to use fonts:///
[12:09] <Pricey> Mr_Giraffe, I may be wrong :)
[12:09] <bokey> Mr_Giraffe, you can either do that or then copy the fonts to ~/.fonts and then run fc-cache -f -v ~/.fonts
[12:09] <Mr_Giraffe> nifty
[12:09] <Mr_Giraffe> thanks
[12:09] <bokey> Mr_Giraffe, easiest way is copying them to fonts:///
[12:09] <Pricey> thanks bokey
[12:09] <bokey> np
[12:09] <Mr_Giraffe> bokey, it wouldn't let me though
[12:10] <bokey> Mr_Giraffe, you should be root
[12:10] <bokey> fonts:/// is for system wide
[12:10] <Mr_Giraffe> i thought i was, but maybe not
[12:10] <bokey> Mr_Giraffe, ubuntu by default does not allow 'root' login
[12:10] <bokey> Mr_Giraffe, so probably you aren't
[12:11] <Mr_Giraffe> right, right
[12:11] <cheeseboy> whats command to delete a folder?
[12:11] <Pricey> cheeseboy, rmdir
[12:11] <nero> cheeseboy, or rm -r
[12:11] <octol> elriah; linux will cache recently used data until another program needs that RAM. It can be a good prefetch method for unused memory
[12:11] <what_if> I only have sound in Flash9 and XMMS and have no idea where to start (googled already)
[12:11] <hamlet> elriah: look at the output of "free". maybe most of it is cached
[12:12] <sayers> When I did the PWMconfig trying to tell which fan is which I still couldn't tell :s
[12:12] <elriah> Cached is 1641656.  What exactly does that mean? (And thanks for the help)
[12:13] <ioerror> Is wine no longer in 6.10?
[12:13] <spikeb> should be in there
[12:13] <spikeb> also, you can get packages from winehq directly if you want
[12:13] <ioerror> i have universe in my sources and it reports:
[12:14] <ioerror> package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[12:14] <ioerror> etc
[12:14] <spikeb> hmm
[12:14] <Mr_Giraffe> oh, also, i was updating this desktop and the kernel updated too, but when i booted into it my wireless drivers wouldn't work
[12:14] <opapo> I am using Ubuntu Server for an ldap server
[12:15] <Mr_Giraffe> as such, i don't really want the kernel to be an option in grub...is there any way to get rid of it?
[12:15] <elriah> If my Ubuntu server has 1.6GB cached, what does that mean?
[12:15] <elriah> (using free)
[12:15] <octol> elriah; while having lots of free memory looks impressive, why not hold recently used programs in memory so they don't have to be reloaded from slower disk sources.
[12:15] <opapo> I am having a problem retrieving a list of users
[12:15] <HymnToLife> opapo, what kind of users ?
[12:15] <elriah> octol: So I'm not running out of memory, then.  It just hasn't freed it on the stack?
[12:16] <octol> elriah; correct, that cache memory is not 'locked'
[12:16] <opapo> HymnToLife: an ldap user
[12:16] <elriah> Ahh.
[12:16] <elriah> Ok, cool.  Thanks.
[12:16] <Sgeo> What time will Ubuntu 7.04 be released?
[12:16] <opapo> If I include the uid in the base I can get the user
[12:16] <octol> elriah; the second you run something that needs memory, cache gets flushed
[12:16] <opapo> but if I don't do that I don't get anything
[12:16] <HymnToLife> elriah, basically, since no program needs the memory, Ubuntu uses it for caching
[12:16] <elriah> I see.  Will it eventually free it all by itself if nothing else requests it?
[12:17] <hamlet> elriah: no. why should it?
[12:17] <elriah> k, cool.
[12:17] <HymnToLife> elriah, no, the poins is that unused memory is wasted memory
[12:17] <elriah> Thanks, all.
[12:17] <HymnToLife> point*
[12:19] <blackest> how do i extract an archive keeping the original owner and group
[12:20] <hamlet> blackest: extract as root or (depending on the archive) use -o
[12:20] <bokey> blackest, use 'ar'
[12:20] <opapo> if #ldap is dead is there a channel to go to for help with openldap
[12:21] <Bales> How can I see a second hard drive installed in my computer on Edgy?
[12:21] <foug> how can i turn off window effects? the ones when you minimize a window it does that fancy thing
[12:21] <hamlet> blackest: sorry (--same-owner)
[12:22] <blackest> i basically need to keep owner and group as XBOX not me  you see its a tar.bz
[12:22] <Pricey> !away > shooters|away
[12:22] <shawn34> friend of mine have a virus on his laptop, preventing it from booting, the virus has put a password on the bios so i can't get in, is there a cd i can dl that will scan the boot sector and stuff without actually having an os on the system?
[12:22] <jrib> foug: /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources in gconf-editor
[12:22] <jrib> shawn34: can't you clear the bios password?
[12:22] <foug> jrib: to be honest, i don't know where gconf-editor is
[12:22] <hamlet> blackest: tar xvjf --same-owner --same-permissions file.tar.bz
[12:22] <jrib> foug: np, just type 'gconf-editor' in a terminal
[12:23] <NekoKun> How can I mount a remote windows folder and allow a non root user to modify it?
[12:23] <shawn34> jrib, i don't know how
[12:23] <elriah> If I "nice -n 19 somebinary" thats giving a process the "lowest" priority, right?
[12:23] <hamlet> elriah: right
[12:23] <elriah> Thanks again, hamlet.
[12:23] <shawn34> jrib, how do i do that?
[12:24] <blackest> cool thanks
[12:24] <clearzen> how do you get a number for a process ID?
[12:24] <jrib> shawn34: there should be a jumper on the motherboard, just google for 'clear bios password'.  Add the model of the computer too
[12:24] <plus_M> pidof process
[12:24] <foug> jrib: it's unchecked, check it?
[12:24] <plus_M> Like pidof bash
[12:24] <jrib> foug: yeah
[12:24] <viktor> hi
[12:24] <niall> Hi all
[12:24] <shawn34> jrib, its a laptop and im struggling to get to the mother board, have all the screws out but its not coming apart
[12:24] <foug> jrib: cool, you seem pretty smart. My taskbar is always expanded even though i have it unchecked, any ideas?
[12:24] <clearzen> plus_M: cool thanks
[12:24] <plus_M> clearzen, no problem
[12:25] <viktor> i love ubuntu
[12:25] <marshall> hey guys
[12:25] <jrib> shawn34: if you call the manufacturer they can probably guide you exactly to it.  I don't know of any other way for you to do it (I assume you can't boot from a cd at the moment?)
[12:25] <marshall> how do you get nautilus to redraw video thumbnails?
[12:25] <jrib> foug: don't know about that one
[12:25] <shawn34> jrib, no i can boot from a cd
[12:25] <lordhelmet> shawn34: depending on the make/model you might have to go through a gongshow involving taking off the display and keyboard among other things. google around for that laptop and resetting the bios
[12:25] <kbidd> so what could cause my install to freeze at 45% through installing the base system?  I'm using the alternate install cd for 6.10 (x86) on Microsoft Virtual PC... there are no error messages on the console.
[12:26] <foug> jrib: o'well, what about sound problems? My sound is always staticy, never had this problem until I installed Linux.
[12:26] <clearzen> shawn34: You can disconnect the battery on the motherboard. Although that is not the best way to go about it
[12:26] <viktor> just reset jumper in your motherboard
[12:26] <jrib> marshall: failed thumbnails or all of them?
[12:26] <jrib> !sound > foug    (foug, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:26] <jrib> foug: just address the channel, if I can help, I'll try :)
[12:26] <shawn34> jrib, this freaking virus keeps shutting down the pc, so after a random amount of minutes it shuts off
[12:26] <viktor> virus for linux_
[12:26] <foug> k, know how to make opera my default browser? I see something in gconf-editor about firefox being my browser
[12:26] <shawn34> i can boot from cd thought
[12:27] <jrib> foug: system > preferences > preferred applications
[12:27] <Lbawinowns> Hello, Is this Ubuntu support?
[12:27] <kbidd> Lbawinowns, yep :)
[12:27] <jrib> Lbawinowns: yes, welcome
[12:27] <clearzen> shawn34: Does the bios lock you out after so many failed attempts, if not you can boot a livecd and just brute force it in secs. It should only be 4 digits I think.
[12:27] <NekoKun> How can I mount a remote windows folder and allow a non root user to modify it?
[12:28] <foug> when I move my windows now there's a grid of black lines on them, only when i'm clicking and dragging. How do i get rid of that
[12:28] <Lbawinowns> Hi then!, I'm new to the ubuntu scheme :), I tried creating a new folder out of my old windows hard drives. But It says I don't  have accces to reach them when i try to open them
[12:29] <lordhelmet> NekoKun: when you mount it as root, specify a user or group with gid= or uid=. look in the mount man page for proper syntax. i think it's -o uid=foo,gid=bar or something like that
[12:29] <kbidd> NekoKun, download smbmount, and then mount it like you would any other device with mount -t smbfs -U username -P password //computername/share /mnt/netmount
[12:29] <jrib> foug: yeah, that's a consequence of the reduced resources settings, I don't know how to choose what it does.  It seems like it is all or nothing
[12:29] <shawn34> clearzen, don't think so... how can i brute force it... im not much of a hacker lol ;)
[12:29] <foug> jrib: doh
[12:29] <kbidd> NekoKun, with the options lordhelmet gave (uid=XXX,gid=YYY)
[12:30] <Lbawinowns> Anyone know how to solve the issue?
[12:31] <jrib> Lbawinowns: are you trying to mount your windows partition?
[12:31] <[IFMO] Mr_D> with easy typing make && make install, my ubuntu transforms into slackware :)
[12:31] <shawn34> clearzen, don't think so... how can i brute force it... im not much of a hacker lol ;)
[12:31] <kbidd> Lbawinowns, do you have the drive mounted properly (use the commmand "mount" with no options to display all currently mounted devices with the filesystem they are mounted as... if its an XP partition, its most likely ntfs)
[12:31] <NekoKun> aptget can't find smbmount
[12:32] <marshall> jrib, failed thumbnails
[12:32] <NekoKun> lordhelmet: aptget can't find smbmount
[12:32] <jamie> any one help the gnome panel has disapeared for the user jamie not any other users. cant get it back any ideas?
[12:32] <jrib> marshall: rm -rf ~/.thumbnails/failed
[12:32] <Lbawinowns> I'm not experienced, but I tried to create a new folder with the disk manager
[12:33] <kbidd> shawn34, if its the bios password, you probably cant brute force it using software... afaik you would have to type in every possible combination by hand (would take a long time)... imo, the best way is to try again with the jumper
[12:33] <Tahir_H> what are the command line tools for searching for files and folders
[12:33] <Tahir_H> ?
[12:33] <Lbawinowns> How do i use the command "mount" ?, must i open terminal?
[12:33] <jrib> Lbawinowns: ok, so you just need to setup the proper permissions by editing /etc/fstab.  See the link from ubotu and feel free to ask us anything that isn't clear there
[12:33] <stjepan> how to count words "word" in myfile.txt?
[12:33] <mjr> tahir, find, locate
[12:33] <Msword> hello, i'm using the bootdisk, how do i connect to msn?
[12:33] <jrib> !ntfs > Lbawinowns    (Lbawinowns, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:33] <kbidd> Lbawinowns, yes, just type "mount" (without the quotes) in a terminal
[12:33] <foug> http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l4/lesson4c.html i'm following this little tutorial, and it says i should see a list of things when i type cd bin, but i don't. Any ideas?
[12:34] <shark-1> should i try the ubuntu beta?
[12:34] <SpaceBass> shark-1, its quite nice!
[12:34] <jrib> foug: 'ls' gives you the list
[12:34] <Tahir_H> mjr: will this also let me search directory names because this is what I need
[12:34] <kbidd> shark-1, as long as you realize its a beta :P
[12:34] <mjr> yes
[12:34] <hamlet> shawn34: remove the battery of you motherboard and wait a few minutes. this may help but i'm not sure
[12:34] <marshall> jrib: i still have the videos without previews
[12:34] <foug> jrib: :)
[12:34] <alex_qwe> hello
[12:35] <jrib> marshall: did they just fail again? (you pressed reload)
[12:35] <stjepan> anyone?
[12:35] <Msword> anyone? how can i get into msn using the bootdisk?
[12:35] <alex_qwe> how can i autorun the script
[12:35] <gesus> hey there i've just aded a heap of "shortcuts" to the places sidepanel of my browser windows is there anyway to delete these all at once? i can only select one at a time.  please help!
[12:35] <shark-1> what is the best way to upgrade?
[12:35] <kbidd> stjepan, at the terminal, use wc myfiles.txt
[12:35] <hamlet> stjepan: wc -w file
[12:35] <marshall> jrib: no, but i am using feisty and that may be a factor it this. they didnt redraw and fail
[12:35] <marshall> jrib: they didnt change
[12:35] <H1tm3n> macd what do you mean "alternative install cd"?
[12:36] <jrib> marshall: what do they look like now?
[12:36] <clearzen> shawn34: if you are still in here check this out it might help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15284/
[12:36] <jrib> !upgrade > shark-1    (shark-1, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:36] <Msword> boot disk, msn, how can i?
[12:36] <H1tm3n> Live CD and install CD is 1 CD as of 6.x versions
[12:36] <alex_qwe> how can i autostart a script
[12:36] <alex_qwe> anyone?
[12:36] <marshall> jrib: the little tango film reels
[12:36] <kbidd> H1tm3n, there are two CDs... the regular desktop one, and the alternative cd... the alternative one has lower system requirements, and installs with a text-driven menu
[12:36] <jrib> !startup > alex_qwe    (alex_qwe, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:36] <macd> H1tm3n, ahh you didnt specify dapper/edgy
[12:36] <macd> H1tm3n, or you did, and I didnt read it
[12:36] <jrib> marshall: ok, is new stuff in ~/.thumbnails/failed now?
[12:37] <Tahir_H> mjr: will this also let me search directory names?
[12:37] <alex_qwe> thx jrib
[12:37] <foug> http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l4/lesson4d.html is telling me to type ls m, but nothing happens. What's the command equiv in ubuntu for this?
[12:37] <gesus> can someone please help me: i've just aded a heap of "shortcuts" to the places sidepanel of my browser window is there anyway to delete these all at once? i can only select one at a time. i've added about 200 folders, please help!
[12:37] <foug> nevermind
[12:37] <foug> i'm bad
[12:37] <jamie> any one help the gnome panel has disapeared for the user jamie not any other users. cant get it back any ideas?
[12:37] <stjepan> hamlet, kbidd, with wc I can only count TOTAL number of words
[12:38] <Msword> how do i use GAIM to get onto msn????
[12:38] <kbidd> stjepan, i thought that was what you were asking for... what are you trying to do?
[12:38] <hamlet> stjepan: and you want to count what?
[12:38] <H1tm3n> macd uhhh.. you're refering to a version... well yeah... but the questino is: whether or not ubuntu will work installed since it doesn't load live???
[12:38] <alex_qwe> and how can i setup autostart from terminal
[12:38] <foug> lilo.conf = libao.conf for linux i assume?
[12:39] <jamie> Add your account to Gaim
[12:39] <zPacKRat> jamie, do you have the lower panel
[12:39] <stjepan> hamlet, kbidd, I want to count words "word" in myfile.txt
[12:39] <jamie> yes
[12:39] <Msword> jamie, it doesn't seem to work...
[12:39] <kbidd> stjepan, something like this should work then...   cat myfile.txt | grep word | wc -l
[12:39] <Msword> i know i have the password right
[12:39] <zPacKRat> right click and click new panel
[12:39] <marshall> jrib: yeah there was stuff in there, i just deleted the files ad now its redrawing the thumbs fine. thanks mang!
[12:40] <zPacKRat> and you can customize it
[12:40] <jamie> try kopete
[12:40] <macd> H1tm3n, once its installed you have options to fix whatever is wrong that you dont have with a livecd, plenty of people use ubuntu on your configuration gfx card wise.
[12:40] <eirik_> when does realise candidate came?
[12:40] <jrib> kbidd: that won't work
[12:40] <zPacKRat> once created right click again and select add to panel
[12:40] <jrib> kbidd: consider the line "foo bar foo"
[12:40] <stjepan> yep
[12:40] <kbidd> jrib, yeah... youre ight... thought of that right after i wrote it :P
[12:40] <foug> lilo.conf = libao.conf for linux i assume?
[12:41] <foug> i mean ubuntu**
[12:41] <jrib> stjepan: maybe grep -o word file | wc -l    There is probably a better way
[12:41] <kbidd> stjepan, check the manfile for grep.... i think it might let you count the number of instances of a particular search string
[12:41] <torpedo|dog> does anybody know if RealPlayer Linux is as bad as RealPlayer Windows?
[12:41] <Agrajag> torpedo|dog: the linux version is based almost directly on helix player.
[12:41] <gesus> can someone please help me: i've just aded a heap of "shortcuts" to the places sidepanel of my browser window is there anyway to delete these all at once? i can only select one at a time. i've added about 200 folders, please help!
[12:41] <Agrajag> It's fairly lightweight.
[12:42] <torpedo|dog> Agrajag: without all the spyware garbage and stuff?
[12:42] <Agrajag> torpedo|dog: yes.
[12:42] <torpedo|dog> woo! Thanks.
[12:42] <hamlet> foug: i can't make sense of your question. and even looked at the link you supplied
[12:42] <poningru> gesus: hold on
[12:42] <foug> hamlet: http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l4/lesson4c.html
[12:42] <gesus> ok
[12:42] <hamlet> foug: indeed
[12:43] <kbidd> i know ive been asking every 20 min or so, but hopefully someone has logged on since i last asked that knows... has anyone gotten 6.10 to work under virtual PC 2007... my install keeps stalling at 45% through installing the base system
[12:43] <jrib> gesus: ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[12:43] <H1tm3n> macd so when I run Live, it doesn't load right drivers or something, correct?
[12:43] <foug> hamlet: i don't see a lilo.conf, only a libao
[12:43] <hamlet> foug: maybe you are using grub and lilo is not even installed?
[12:43] <poningru> gesus: rm ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[12:43] <poningru> oh doh
[12:43] <foug> hamlet: is that a bad thing?
[12:43] <poningru> what jrib said
[12:43] <hamlet> foug: not at all
[12:44] <poningru> jrib: quick thinking :)
[12:44] <kbidd> foug, no... to see if youre using grub, see it there is a folder: /boot/grub
[12:44] <hamlet> foug: just the tutorial cannot be followed litteraly
[12:44] <foug> hamlet: well see, the next lesson says i can change what it says at start up. But it wants me to hav lilo.conf
[12:44] <foug> kbidd: yup, it's there
[12:44] <hamlet> foug: yes lilo was state of the art up until a couple of years
[12:44] <kbidd> foug, then you'll have to edit /boot/grub/grub.conf instead
[12:45] <foug> hamlet: damn outdated tutorials
[12:45] <jrib> !cli > foug    (foug, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:45] <foug> kbidd: so i go, cd /boot and go there?
[12:45] <Flare183> !cli | foug
[12:45] <ubotu> foug: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:45] <kbidd> foug, yeah... cd /boot/grub
[12:45] <Flare183> kidd:>your welcom
[12:45] <Flare183> kidd:>your welcome
[12:46] <Balzac> you're welcome
[12:46] <neozen> meep
[12:46] <kbidd> Flare183, im welcome for what? :P
[12:46] <jamie> gesus What browser?
[12:47] <ubuntu> ola a todos
[12:47] <gesus> poningru, jrib rm: cannot remove `/home/cameronyoung/gtk-bookmarks': No such file or directory
[12:47] <macd> H1tm3n, installing most likely will fix the issue.
[12:47] <foug> i don't see a .grub config in /boot/grub
[12:48] <Flare183> just channeling the bot for you
[12:48] <gesus> jamie, normal browser sidepanel (same bookmarks in thunar file manager)
[12:48] <Agrajag> foug: I don't want to sound condescending or anything, but you may be out of your element there.
[12:48] <jrib> gesus: look closer, you missed a '.'.  btw this will remove ALL bookmarks
[12:48] <Agrajag> foug: that guide you're using looks to be pretty outdated.
[12:48] <Masqy> k
[12:48] <foug> Agrajag: he pissed on your rug dude, donny, you're out of your element
[12:48] <Masqy> 
[12:48] <Agrajag> foug: EXACTLY 8)
[12:49] <foug> Agrajag: ahh, someone linked it to me a few days ago. Know of a newer one?
[12:49] <Agrajag> foug: not offhand, just bear in mind that anything you read won't necessarily match up to what's out there now.
[12:49] <foug> Agrajag: argh
[12:49] <jrib> foug: a guide for?
[12:49] <Agrajag> foug: unless you really want to change grubs's settings, just move on to whatever's next
[12:49] <foug> jrib: one similar to http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l4/lesson4c.html
[12:49] <hamlet> foug: have you considered the link Flare183 pointed you trouhg ubotu?
[12:49] <Agrajag> jrib: just a general linux newbie's guide
[12:50] <foug> hamlet: it's in a tab on my browser, havn't moved to it but it's there
[12:50] <jamie> gesus is it nautilus or konqueror?
[12:50] <jrib> foug: you should have a private message from ubotu with a link to a wiki page.  On the wiki page, it lists several good guides as references at the bottom
[12:50] <gesus> nautilus i guess
[12:50] <gesus> called "places"
[12:51] <gesus> the sidepanel that is
[12:51] <jrib> gesus: do you understand what I said?
[12:51] <sn0w> hello
[12:51] <Flare183> need it again?
[12:51] <gesus> jrib, yep. i did that command in terminal, it seemed to work (i.e. didn't return an error) but all those bookmarks are still there :(
[12:51] <sn0w> i just did a system update, and now there are now window decorations being drawn at all
[12:51] <jrib> gesus: reload nautilus maybe?
[12:52] <foug> Agrajag: i just wanted to change what it said on start up hehe
[12:52] <sn0w> and some compiz widgets are now disabled that worked before reboot
[12:52] <gravemind> I just did a system update and I don't have any sound anymore!
[12:52] <gesus> yep i closed all windows and reopened also opened thunar again it returns the same bookmarks still ?
[12:52] <jamie> gesus How on earth did you add them there?
[12:52] <sn0w> i still have wobbly windows and all that, but no window borders
[12:52] <dead1ock> don't know
[12:53] <jrib> gesus: verify ~/.gtk-bookmarks  no longer exists
[12:53] <kbidd> ok, so im giving up on 6.10 in virtual PC... does anyone know if 6.06 has the same graphics issues inside a virtual machine that 6.10 does?
[12:53] <gesus> i was trying to mass-rename the folders and i was using "bulk rename" and when you're browsing it has an "add" button, so i clicked that and it fking added all the folders to the bookmarks.
[12:53] <Agrajag> foug: you can change what it says when you log in pretty easily. I just wanted to make sure you didn't go messing with grub if you didn't know what you were doing. that can make your system unbootable.
[12:53] <foug> Agrajag: ahh got'cha, thanks
[12:53] <gesus> jrib, cameronyoung@Gesus:/$ rm ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[12:53] <gesus> rm: cannot remove `/home/cameronyoung/.gtk-bookmarks': No such file or directory
[12:53] <jrib> gesus: killall nautilus
[12:53] <jamie> opps
[12:54] <Agrajag> foug: for example, you can add commands to ~/.bash_profile to make it print a message when you log in
[12:54] <Lbawinowns> Hello Again! I'm having trouble mounting, I think I mounted the drives but when I try to access their folders it says I don't have the access rights to do it
[12:54] <gesus> jrib, thanks mate i love you :-) if we were in msn i would make you many emoticons
[12:54] <foug> Agrajag: o ya? got a tutorial on stuff like that? lol
[12:54] <jrib> Lbawinowns: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[12:54] <jrib> !pastebin | Lbawinowns
[12:54] <ubotu> Lbawinowns: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:54] <NemesisD> hullo
[12:54] <Agrajag> foug: nope
[12:54] <jrib> gesus: heh np
[12:55] <NemesisD> I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with ddrescue but I have kind of a general question, is it possible to install packages and use packages while running ubuntu from LiveCD?
[12:55] <Lbawinowns> did something happen?
[12:56] <hamlet> NemesisD: yes
[12:56] <Supaplex> I farted. my bad.
[12:56] <jrib> Lbawinowns: what do you mean?
[12:56] <bokey> heh
[12:56] <kbidd> is there an alternate cd for6.06, or is there a way to get a text install from the regular cd?
[12:56] <blackest> any idea why gftp will not transfer files
[12:56] <jrib> kbidd: releases.ubuntu.com (yes)
[12:56] <NemesisD> hamlet, is there some special way to do it? the person in question has the .deb file and ran it and it said installed, but the command that should be there, dd_rescue was not found
[12:57] <yell0w> kbidd, there is, look on the website
[12:57] <NemesisD> i'm trying to help him on the phone and I have an installed version of ubuntu and the man page came up for that command just fine
[12:57] <hamlet> NemesisD: nothing special. just everything is in RAM
[12:57] <blackest> gftp Could not change local directory to /home/john/Desktop/debian/default.xbe: Not a directory (any ideas??)
[12:57] <NemesisD> so do you have any idea why this wouldn't be working for him?
[12:57] <EnderTheThird> Hmmm, so wired LAN didn't work for Feisty, but wireless did.   That's a little different....
[12:57] <Pie-rate> This Ubuntu box is jon.pmtech.com. Can anyone give me an overview of how to set it up as a mail server so i can send and receive mail to/from jschall@jon.pmtech.com?
[12:58] <jrib> Lbawinowns: ok, now what are you trying to do exactly that doesn't work?
[12:58] <hamlet> NemesisD: can he verify the install in some way? look at the list of files which should be installed and see if they really are?
[12:58] <Lbawinowns> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15285/
[12:59] <NemesisD> ah i'm at a loss for the terminal command for that
[12:59] <jamie> how do you restart gnome panel?
[12:59] <jrib> jamie: pkill gnome-panel
[12:59] <hamlet> NemesisD: i don't understand you
[12:59] <Lbawinowns> anyone know what error I made? Because It says i dont have acces to folder i created with disk manager
[12:59] <jrib> Lbawinowns: what folder?
[12:59] <elriah> Hi all.  Is there a way to rename a bunch of files at once in linux?  i.e., rename hello*.123.wav to goodbye*.123.wav (where * is a wildcard)?
[01:00] <Lbawinowns> I laid path name for one partition as this : /root/GamlaE
[01:00] <NemesisD> hamlet, would it be something like dpkg -l | grep ddrescue
[01:00] <jrib> elriah: yes, use the 'rename' command but read its man page, it uses regexp
[01:00] <hamlet> NemesisD: dpkg -L ddrescue
[01:00] <NemesisD> ok and it should list a bunch of directories right?
[01:00] <hamlet> NemesisD: yes
[01:00] <jrib> Lbawinowns: what partition are you trying to mount?
[01:00] <NemesisD> ok ill have him try it, and what if that fails?
[01:01] <hamlet> NemesisD: he could see how the binary should be named and if it is installed
[01:01] <NemesisD> alright ill call him back
[01:01] <bokey> elriah, check this out http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-bulk-rename-files-in-linux-in-the-terminal
[01:01] <cheeseboy> Does Anyone Use NESTRA?
[01:01] <chocobo> What is NEstra?
[01:01] <Lbawinowns> its partition 6, dev/hda6, Windows NTFS
[01:01] <bokey> elriah, you'll get lots of answer just by using searching.
[01:01] <cheeseboy> nes emulator
[01:01] <hamlet> NemesisD: i would take a special resque live cd. there is a bunch of them
[01:02] <chocobo> o
[01:02] <chocobo> no
[01:02] <Gashi> Hello every one I'm new to this channel and ubuntu and I need some help... if anyone could
[01:02] <stepanstas> Does VLC play everything that Totem plays?
[01:02] <jrib> Lbawinowns: close disk manager, your fstab shows it as being mounted at /media/hda6.  Can you access that?
[01:02] <bokey> stepanstas, and more
[01:02] <jrib> !ask | Gashi
[01:02] <ubotu> Gashi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:02] <hamlet> stepanstas: yes
[01:02] <whtet> how can i create /etc/shadow out of /etc/passwd ?
[01:02] <stepanstas> bokey, and does it also have plugins for browser?
[01:03] <Gashi> heh sorry i'm trying to instal ubuntu 6.10 and it cannot find my devices(hard drives) when i try to set up the partitions
[01:03] <hamlet> whtet: what kind of question is that? you can't
[01:03] <bokey> stepanstas, what do you mean plugin ? you mean to play music in your browser using vlc ?
[01:03] <Lbawinowns> I can reach the folder media\hda6 but It's empty
[01:03] <stepanstas> bokey, music and video
[01:03] <stepanstas> bokey, that is what i mean
[01:03] <Lbawinowns> Maybe I should edit the folder location with disk manager, perhaps
[01:03] <whtet> hamlet, cause my system is not using the shadowing
[01:04] <bokey> stepanstas, i am sure there is one.
[01:04] <jrib> Lbawinowns: no, wait
[01:04] <hamlet> whtet: oh. sorry. reacted too quickly :-) i dunno
[01:04] <stepanstas> bokey, alright, thanks a lot ;)
[01:04] <whtet> doh! :)
[01:04] <jrib> Lbawinowns: why do you want it to go to /root/* anyway?
[01:04] <Agrajag> whtet: You mean your password hashes are being stored in /etc/passwd?
[01:04] <whtet> Agrajag: yeh
[01:05] <Lbawinowns> I don't know why I took root, I first try linux... I thought all should be in root
[01:05] <Agrajag> odd
[01:05] <jrib> Lbawinowns: /media/hda6 is an appropriate place.  pastebin output of 'mount' command
[01:05] <blackest> any idea why gftp will not do a simple file transfer
[01:05] <jojoman02> anyone know if beta is going out today?
[01:05] <pieman> macd, if you're there - thanks for your help earlier, successfully connected to my linux box from my pocket pc now.
[01:05] <neozen> blackest: yeah.... I can think of a few
[01:06] <blackest> keeps complaining about it not being a directory i know its not a f.. directory
[01:06] <macd> pieman, anytime.
[01:06] <neozen> blackest: what is it... a symbolic link or something?
[01:06] <blackest> no a few files
[01:06] <Lbawinowns> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15291/ my result after writing "mount" in terminal
[01:06] <neozen> blackest: the way some windows-based servers apply links is really broken
[01:06] <Agrajag> whtet: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Shadow-Password-HOWTO-2.html here's some older info on shadowing, apparently from when it was first introduced. If you know any scripting you should be able to create the shadow file from the info there
[01:06] <pieman> just one thing...would it be sensible for me to change the port it uses to something more obscure? or is that gonna cause problems?
[01:07] <bokey> stepanstas, here http://www.videolan.org/doc/play-howto/en/ch04.html#id293992
[01:07] <neozen> blackest: ok......
[01:07] <neozen> blackest: more info please
[01:07] <blackest> its just going from my laptop to my xbox
[01:07] <sun_> whats the app for burning a dvd command from shell?  i have an iso
[01:07] <whtet> Agrajag: thx!!! i will take a look into it
[01:07] <neozen> blackest: (wasn't monitoring channel if you stated it before)
[01:07] <neozen> sun_: cdrecord should do it
[01:07] <neozen> sun_: will require switches
[01:08] <neozen> sun_: man cdrecord
[01:08] <sun_> neozen id like a gui driven app?
[01:08] <blackest> ok well i have five files in a folder on my desktop and i need them on the E: drive of my xbox but when i try to transfer it says its not a direcotory
[01:08] <blackest> Received URL file:///home/john/Desktop/debian/default.xbe
[01:08] <blackest> Could not change local directory to /home/john/Desktop/debian/default.xbe: Not a directory
[01:08] <jrib> Lbawinowns: sudo umount /root/GamlaE && sudo mount -a
[01:09] <Lane_Rendell> Ummm when I open terminal and type in su to get root access (and then my password) its authorization failed, even though I type in the same password when adding programs, updating, and it accepts it.
[01:09] <Some_Person> how come ubuntu cd wont boot from external usb drive?
[01:09] <Lbawinowns> Done
[01:09] <Lane_Rendell> *it says
[01:09] <jrib> Lbawinowns: try /media/hda6 now
[01:09] <neozen> sun_: graveman
[01:09] <neozen> sun_: if you're in ubuntu
[01:09] <neozen> sun_: or k3b if you're on kubuntu
[01:09] <Dwezek> can LVM be spread across multiple servers via NFS?
[01:09] <Some_Person> i have it burned to a cd-r, and my internal drive is having problems with cd-r's, but it wont boot from the external usb (my only other drive)
[01:09] <chocobo> Whats another linux flav. that is just as good or better than all the ubuntus?
[01:10] <blackest> neozen if you can help please i am tearing my hair out
[01:10] <Lbawinowns> Yay! Thanks alot jrib!
[01:10] <neozen> blackest: which directory is it complaining about... the local one or the remote one
[01:10] <jrib> Lbawinowns: np, I think you understand basically how to edit that file now and change it to suit your needs
[01:10] <jrib> !fstab > Lbawinowns    (Lbawinowns, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:11] <dirgedoll> I've tried Fedora Core and Suse 10.1
[01:11] <neozen> time to pay attention in clas
[01:11] <neozen> s
[01:11] <neozen> bye all
[01:11] <Mr_Giraffe> later neozen
[01:12] <Some_Person> hello? how would i copy my burned 6.10 cd-r to a cd-rw through windows without redownloading?
[01:12] <RedLobster> where can i get help with open office?  i have a spreadsheet issue.  i think it's an easy thing to do but i don't know how to do it.
[01:13] <jrib> !openoffice | RedLobster
[01:13] <ubotu> RedLobster: a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[01:13] <blackest> neozen the local but i think its going now
[01:13] <sn0w> hey what version of compiz are you guys running
[01:13] <Linux_Junkie> hello wonderful world!
[01:13] <pieman> is there a command i can run from the command line to get the IP address my router has currently been assigned by my isp?
[01:13] <dirgedoll> Hi
[01:14] <Some_Person> hello? how would i copy my burned 6.10 cd-r to a cd-rw through windows without redownloading?
[01:14] <Linux_Junkie> can someone help me out on how to make mounts appear on ones desktop ?
[01:14] <Lane_Rendell> When I open terminal and type in su to get root access (and then my password) its authorization failed, even though I type in the same password when adding programs, updating, and it accepts it. Any idea why, thanks?
[01:14] <jrib> !sudo | Lane_Rendell
[01:14] <ubotu> Lane_Rendell: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:14] <sn0w> type sudo su
[01:14] <sn0w> not just su
[01:14] <Lane_Rendell> Ahh okay, thanks
[01:14] <RedLobster> yeah.  there.  no one responding. ugh.
[01:14] <jrib> Lane_Rendell, sn0w: sudo -i  is preferred since it will reset your environment
[01:15] <sn0w> ah, thanks i didnt know that
[01:15] <Lane_Rendell> Worked, thanks guys.
[01:15] <sn0w> np
[01:15] <gnufede> good evening
[01:15] <chocobo> hwow do u go back a directory
[01:15] <chocobo> ?
[01:15] <sn0w> hey u running compiz by chance?
[01:15] <Linux_Junkie> anyone ?
[01:15] <sn0w> can you check what version your synaptic shows as the latest
[01:15] <clearzen> chocobo: cd ..
[01:15] <chocobo> thx
[01:15] <clearzen> chocobo: cool name :)
[01:16] <sn0w> im seeing 1:0.5.0-1
[01:16] <sn0w> but their website says 1:0.6 somthing
[01:16] <gnufede> anyone knows about ltsp on ubuntu?
[01:16] <sn0w> and some package imtrying to install relies on the 1:0.6 one
[01:16] <Masqy> Hi all, Can someone recommend minial hardware for Beryl?
[01:16] <Lunar_Lamp> !jre
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <chocobo> Hey i am trying to set up FreeNX and I need to add certain lines to a document with the file path /etc/apt/sources.list and it won't let me save after i edit it
[01:17] <pitillo> sorry to ask again. Any tip to get nforce400 motherboard based setup with edgy?
[01:17] <jrib> chocobo: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:17] <Some_Person> hello? how would i copy my burned 6.10 cd-r to a cd-rw through windows without redownloading?
[01:18] <Linux_Junkie> !fstab
[01:18] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:18] <jrib> Some_Person: try ##windows  or did I misunderstand your question?
[01:18] <chocobo> so i typed
[01:18] <pitillo> not sure if I need nvidia drivers, try another kernel or directly I will not able to use that mobo with edgy?
[01:18] <dunstabulos_> Some_Person: what burning software are you using? NTI (and Nero) IIRC allows you to duplicate a cd
[01:19] <chocobo> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then put the lines i wanted in side the document and it won't let me save it
[01:19] <jrib> !away > c00l2sv    (c00l2sv, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:19] <neozen-class> dunstabulos_: time to get a decent burning program
[01:19] <neozen-class> gah... meant Some_Person
[01:19] <chocobo> jrib: I used gksudo
[01:19] <neozen-class> lol
[01:19] <jrib> chocobo: what error do you get?
[01:19] <neozen-class> !away
[01:19] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[01:19] <dunstabulos_> neozen-class: no harm, no foul
[01:20] <jvai> neozen-class, i'm using gnomebaker to burn a dvd image right now
[01:20] <Linux_Junkie> so can someone help me out with how to make mounts appear on the desktop ?
[01:20] <Lbawinowns> erm... jrib, how do i do for partition 5?
[01:20] <guitarra> !emacs
[01:20] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[01:20] <neozen-class> Linux_Junkie: O.o ... I'd like to know this too
[01:21] <jrib> Lbawinowns: sudo umount /dev/hda5 && sudo mount -a
[01:21] <jrib> Lbawinowns: (you won't need to do this anymore)
[01:21] <pitillo> Linux_Junkie, try to put them in /media
[01:21] <guitarra> if i use    apt-get install emacs   ,  will I get the latest available emacs version?  I have been looking in Synaptic, and I can't tell which version I need...
[01:21] <Linux_Junkie> neozen-class: i guess it's time to look into it
[01:22] <dirgedoll> are there any good widgets for kubuntu 6.10? Thanks.
[01:22] <Linux_Junkie> pitillo: tried that.
[01:22] <Lbawinowns> I doesn't work :(
[01:22] <jrib> guitarra: you will get the latest version in the repositories
[01:22] <guitarra> The same happened to me when trying to get the g++  packages
[01:22] <nixnoob> how do i roll back my fglrx version?
[01:22] <chocobo> Can someone help me out with installing freeNX on my computer
[01:22] <pitillo> Linux_Junkie, and changed fstab to conform it?
[01:22] <elztir> When does feisty become stable?
[01:22] <guitarra> jrib : where, in Synaptic?
[01:22] <neozen-class> freeNX..... hmm
[01:22] <guitarra> jrib: what if I use apt-get ?
[01:22] <neozen-class> elztir: well... it gets released on the 19th
[01:22] <chocobo> I am having one problem
[01:22] <Linux_Junkie> pitillo: i setup fstab opts as users,auto,rw
[01:22] <jrib> guitarra: any Package manager, same thing
[01:23] <jrib> Lbawinowns: do you get any output?
[01:23] <neozen-class> elztir: guess it will be "stable" sometime around then
[01:23] <Linux_Junkie> pitillo: and pointed it to a mount spot in /media
[01:23] <Lbawinowns> Nope, the terminal gives no response
[01:23] <chocobo> i type in gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:23] <Gashi> I am trying to install Ubuntu 6.10 and when i get to the part where i setup the file system it says "no devices detected" and i am wondering if there is anyway to fix this...
[01:23] <jrib> Lbawinowns: pastebin 'mount' again please
[01:23] <chocobo> then I put in the lines that i am spose to put in
[01:23] <jrib> chocobo: you didn't answer my question
[01:23] <guitarra> jrib but what about the difference between the command line and the  GUI Package manager?  I assumed that if i give  "emacs"   as an argument to apt-get , it will do the work
[01:23] <chocobo> then it says theres an error and can not save it
[01:24] <pitillo> Linux_Junkie, sorry then... I am trying to make working my new mobo .... and seems to be hard too.
[01:24] <chocobo> jrib: what was the question?
[01:24] <guitarra> jrib: It worked for me with other packages I needed
[01:24] <jrib> guitarra: synaptic is just a gui frontend to apt-get, I don't really understand your question.  Both will install the "emacs" package
[01:24] <Combat_Sheep> hi there
[01:24] <neozen-class> Linux_Junkie: would just making symbolic links on your desktop be ok?
[01:24] <jrib> chocobo: what error do you get?
[01:24] <nixnoob> how can i roll back my fglrx version?
[01:25] <neozen-class> Linux_Junkie: or do you want the Right way?
[01:25] <Linux_Junkie> neozen-class: well i realize that is doable but it doesn't seem right since other mounts auto appear on the desktop
[01:25] <Lbawinowns> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15292/
[01:25] <clearzen> chocobo: It shouldn't make a difference but have you tried just using sudo?
[01:25] <Linux_Junkie> neozen-class: the right way of course.
[01:25] <chocobo> jrib: could not save the file "/home/chocobo/'etc/apt/sources.list
[01:25] <neozen-class> Linux_Junkie: aye..... I'd like that too.. have no way how to do... and it hasn't ticked me off enough lately to do dive in and make it right
[01:26] <neozen-class> *no idea how to
[01:26] <jrib> chocobo: ok, close gedit and do this:  gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:26] <Combat_Sheep> I am in need of putting a server on the internet for web, sftp and a couple of other services. do you guys have any hardening guides for Ubuntu Servers ?
[01:26] <jrib> Lbawinowns: pastebin the output of the following:  sudo umount /media/hda5; sudo umount /tmp/disks-conf-hda5; mount
[01:27] <jrib> Lbawinowns: you have closed disk manager right?
[01:27] <Lbawinowns> Yes
[01:28] <r0utetop> anyone know the package for all the std c man pages ie sprintf, scanf etc ?
[01:28] <jrib> r0utetop: manpages-dev
[01:28] <Combat_Sheep> or should I use a common approach as with all Unix and Linux servers ?
[01:28] <chocobo> jrib: lol i think it worked thank you very much
[01:28] <r0utetop> jrib: thanks
[01:28] <jrib> chocobo, r0utetop: yw
[01:28] <Lbawinowns> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15293/
[01:28] <chocobo> jrib: am i spose to put single quotes where iw anna signify i want to edit something?
[01:29] <jrib> chocobo: it's an old bug, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:29] <chocobo> 5.1 lol
[01:29] <Lbawinowns> lol
[01:29] <jrib> Lbawinowns: ok, now try 'sudo mount -a' and look at /media/hda5
[01:29] <chocobo> jrib: lol can i update it someway?
[01:29] <jrib> !upgrade > chocobo    (chocobo, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:30] <pikeshouse88_> !upgrade > pikeshouse88_
[01:30] <jrib> chocobo: to answer your question, when you want to use the   gksudo   command, you should surround the command after "gksudo" in quotes
[01:31] <dirgedoll> i have kubuntu 6.10 and i just downloaded superkaramba how do I get it to run? thanks
[01:31] <Lbawinowns> It worked. You are really SOOO nice and helpful jrib!
[01:31] <jrib> dirgedoll: what do you mean when you say you "downloaded" it?
[01:31] <dirgedoll> it is on my desktop and i havent unzipped it
[01:31] <IgorSobreira> hey guys...i have a .war file...whats that?? O_O
[01:32] <jrib> dirgedoll: superkarmba is pacakged in ubuntu's repositories.  You should install the "superkaramba" package.  Are you familiar with APT?
[01:32] <Agrajag> it's like a .jar, but for webapps
[01:32] <Combat_Sheep> I am in need of putting a server on the internet for web, sftp and a couple of other services. do you guys have any hardening guides for Ubuntu Servers ?
[01:32] <dirgedoll> no im not
[01:32] <neozen-class> IgorSobreira: for strange extensions, I just scope out www.wotsit.org
[01:32] <jrib> !info superkaramba | dirgedoll
[01:32] <ubotu> dirgedoll: superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[01:32] <dirgedoll> how do i do this
[01:33] <dirgedoll> where do i type that?
[01:33] <IgorSobreira> Agrajag: is possible to execute in linux?
[01:33] <Lbawinowns> I have another question, completely not relevant to my previous. When I log in at MSN with GAIM. It instantly exits the program
[01:33] <jrib> dirgedoll: you can use add/remove or synaptic (system > administration > synaptic) to install the "superkaramba" package.  But first you will need to enable the Universe Repository
[01:33] <jrib> !universe > dirgedoll    (dirgedoll, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:33] <Bales> When running Beryl, I get the following message: No GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
[01:33] <Bales>  Can someone tell me what this means and how to fix it?
[01:33] <jrib> Bales: try #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[01:34] <Bales> jrib, alright, thanks
[01:34] <neozen-class> Bales: your answer lies in #ubuntu-effects
[01:34] <neozen-class> ....damn lag
[01:34] <neozen-class> lol
[01:34] <Lbawinowns> :)
[01:34] <Combat_Sheep> do I smell ??
[01:34] <Bales> neozen-class: You still get a thanks :-) Everyone gets a thanks!
[01:34] <IgorSobreira> can i install a .war file in linux?
[01:35] <jrib> IgorSobreira: what are you trying to install out of curiousity?
[01:35] <man1> hey people
[01:35] <Combat_Sheep> who ??
[01:35] <man1> i need help
[01:35] <jrib> !helpme | man1
[01:35] <Lbawinowns> Any1 ever got similiar problems with Gaim? that it instantly crashes?
[01:35] <ubotu> man1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:35] <Combat_Sheep> living in saudi I am not surprised you need help
[01:35] <dirgedoll> i tried typing universe in the terminal and it said event not found
[01:35] <dirgedoll> i mean !universe
[01:35] <man1> i just installed Linux and it wont play media files, says totem cant play
[01:36] <Combat_Sheep> use mplayer
[01:36] <neozen-class> Lbawinowns: I use a decrepit version of gaim from the dapper repositories
[01:36] <jrib> dirgedoll: !unvierse just instructs ubotu to send you information.  Did you receive a private message from ubotu?
[01:36] <fryfrog> is there a feisty specific channel?
[01:36] <neozen-class> Lbawinowns: I think its 1.5.1cvs
[01:36] <jrib> fryfrog: #ubuntu+1
[01:36] <neozen-class> fryfrog: oh yeah
[01:36] <dirgedoll> !universe
[01:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:36] <dirgedoll> yes
[01:36] <jrib> dirgedoll: k, so now read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[01:36] <chocobo> frib: hey so i did everything then i tried ---- sudo apt-get install lol.deb ----- and then it tells me E: couldn't find package lol.deb
[01:36] <Combat_Sheep> manl try mplayer
[01:36] <neozen-class> !codecs |man1
[01:36] <ubotu> man1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:36] <dirgedoll> ok
[01:37] <chocobo> jrib: hey so i did everything then i tried ---- sudo apt-get install lol.deb ----- and then it tells me E: couldn't find package lol.deb
[01:37] <c1ru> a
[01:37] <jrib> chocobo: are you trying to install a .deb you download or are you installing a package from a repository?  What are you installing?
[01:37] <man1> i did try it
[01:37] <chocobo> well it syas in manual repository but i have a deb in my comp
[01:37] <man1> no use
[01:38] <chocobo> jrib: well it syas in manual repository but i have a deb in my comp
[01:38] <jrib> chocobo: can you link me?
[01:38] <neozen-class> man1: then you might be doing something wrong
[01:38] <chocobo> kk
[01:38] <neozen-class> man1: what kind of file?
[01:38] <neozen-class> man1: are you sure the file is valid?
[01:38] <chocobo> jrib: wget http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:38] <neozen-class> man1: what type is this file?
[01:38] <xamox> anyone know why when I try to access System->Adminstration->services and enter in my sudo password I get the prompt: You are not allowed to access the system configuration?
[01:38] <chocobo> jrib: http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:39] <ceeg> how do I give a user permissions to read/write /var/www
[01:39] <neozen-class> ...I'm hyper today
[01:39] <neozen-class> lol
[01:39] <chocobo> jrib: wtf thats not it one sec
[01:39] <Combat_Sheep> quit
[01:39] <jrib> chocobo: k :)
[01:39] <chocobo> jrib: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[01:39] <chocobo> there
[01:39] <jrib> chocobo: sudo aptitude install freenx    is what I see
[01:40] <chocobo> jrib: so i should jsut do that and it should work?
[01:40] <jrib> chocobo: if you've done the preceding steps, yes
[01:40] <chocobo> kk
[01:40] <jrib> chocobo: and you are on dapper
[01:40] <neozen-class> question jrib: isn't freeNX basically do the same thing as X ... only minimizing the message passing between client and server?
[01:40] <neozen-class> *doesn't
[01:41] <jrib> neozen-class: they claim you can use X remotely over 56k smoothly
[01:41] <man1> files are good a lot of kinds like avi mpeg mp3 wmv wma
[01:41] <chocobo> jrib: dapper? what does tha mean?
[01:41] <jrib> chocobo: dapper is a version of ubuntu
[01:41] <neozen-class> jrib: yeah.. we were learning about NX in my distributed systems class
[01:41] <chocobo> ooo
[01:41] <jrib> chocobo: what version are you using?
[01:42] <chocobo> jrib: 5.1
[01:42] <neozen-class> chocobo: dapper=6.06.1
[01:42] <neozen-class> WHOAH
[01:42] <chocobo> jrib: but i am going to use that update link u gave me
[01:42] <Bales> What was that channel for beryl? #ubuntu-visual?
[01:42] <chocobo> jrib: after i get this done
[01:42] <neozen-class> Bales: #ubuntu-effects
[01:42] <jrib> chocobo: you should upgrade first, then install freenx
[01:42] <Bales> neozen-class: Ohhhh, that would explain it, thanks
[01:42] <chocobo> jrib: kk
[01:42] <neozen-class> chocobo: indeed...
[01:42] <foug> i'm having trouble installing vlc media player. apt-get install vlc isn't working
[01:42] <neozen-class> chocobo: I think support for 5.1 has ceased
[01:43] <jrib> foug: have you enabled universe?
[01:43] <blazer34i> Does anyone have screenshots of superkaramba?
[01:43] <Juanca> Hi. How do I install tarballs?
[01:43] <foug> jrib: no idea
[01:43] <jrib> Juanca: you try not to.  What are you trying to install?
[01:43] <jrib> !universe > foug    (foug, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:43] <Juanca> jrib: nvu
[01:43] <jrib> Juanca: nvu is in the repositories
[01:43] <neozen-class> Great_Auk: having trouble setting up java?
[01:43] <jrib> !info nvu | Juanca
[01:43] <ubotu> juanca: nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB
[01:43] <kundalinijack> hi! how do we get a dvd player to show our movies without "breaking up" - appreciate your answers, thanks
[01:43] <chocobo> jrib: should i update to edgy?
[01:43] <HorizonXP> hey
[01:44] <man1> and when i play the example files there is no sound
[01:44] <HorizonXP> can anyone help me with deskbar-applet?
[01:44] <Charlatan> heh, i just installed ubuntu, never tried linux before, i must say i am amazed! this is by far better than XP
[01:44] <neozen-class> Charlatan: welcome to the fold mon... nice to have you
[01:44] <mapez> Charlatan, I am glad I am not the only one that thinks that.
[01:44] <jrib> chocobo: start with dapper.  If you decide to keep going to edgy, you will want to just keep going to feisty in about a week
[01:44] <Great_Auk> yes, did all the install stuff .. and Firefox says it is enabled .. but cannot get it to load java stuff from web pages
[01:44] <Charlatan> thank you thank you :)
[01:44] <jrib> chocobo: is this a relatively fresh install?
[01:44] <AaronMT> Charlatan how come you didnt wait until fiesty
[01:44] <Charlatan> sorry, new to this, what is fiesty?
[01:44] <foug> jrib:  is there a way to add it through synaptic? i don't know if i know how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:44] <jrib> !feisty > Charlatan    (Charlatan, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:45] <bayziders> WHen will the final fiesty realease be out?
[01:45] <mapez> next week
[01:45] <mapez> The 19th
[01:45] <neozen-class> Great_Auk: hmmmm.... are you sure the plugin is pointing to the new version of java you installed?
[01:45] <jrib> foug: yes, the wiki page should have instructions on how to do it using the GUI
[01:45] <Charlatan> oh thanks
[01:45] <bayziders> Win
[01:45] <sirkism> would anybody recommend another browser than firefox? or one that plays .mov files or flash files without crashing? or do they all do it?
[01:45] <Juanca> jrib: !info nvu | Juanca gives me this: bash: !info: event not found
[01:45] <aunes> hey all.
[01:45] <Charlatan> so its worth upgrading?
[01:45] <Mr_Giraffe> Charlatan, it's the next version of ubuntu
[01:45] <Great_Auk> neozen-class:  .. have no idea
[01:45] <bayziders> Any thing majorly wrong with the beta?
[01:45] <AaronMT> !inspiron
[01:45] <mapez> Charlatan, it should be worth it.
[01:45] <neozen-class> Great_Auk: ...joy
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inspiron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <Charlatan> btw, if anyone here play world of warcraft, please send me a msg so we can have a talk if its even possible to run wow in ubuntu
[01:45] <jrib> Charlatan: if you are new to Ubuntu, wait for it to be released as final.  I think it is definitely worth it
[01:45] <mapez> Bayziders, I am on it now.. a few people told me not to install Beryl I've had no problems
[01:45] <neozen-class> Charlatan: yeah.. its possible
[01:46] <atselby> Whoo
[01:46] <Charlatan> isn't this a final release?
[01:46] <neozen-class> Charlatan: scope out winehq
[01:46] <Charlatan> it works smooth as butter :)
[01:46] <atselby> Gusty GIbbon
[01:46] <aunes> I just installed the latest edgy (6.10) on my Acer. I finally got the wireless working, but does anyone know if evolution supports Exchange 2k3?
[01:46] <chocobo> jrib: ya thsi is pretty fresh
[01:46] <mapez> yeah, 6.10 final Charlatan
[01:46] <jrib> Great_Auk: what did you install?
[01:46] <Charlatan> ok thanks
[01:46] <Charlatan> well i am running 6.10
[01:46] <bayziders> =/ Beryl is like the only reason I use ubuntu
[01:46] <bayziders> lol
[01:46] <chocobo> jrib: should i go to the next version each day
[01:46] <neozen-class> what's a final release?
[01:46] <Mr_Giraffe> ahahaha bayziders
[01:46] <Charlatan> heard about beryl, havent had the time to check it out yet
[01:46] <HorizonXP> Beryl's made Ubuntu that much nicer for me
[01:46] <kundalinijack> plz help - need answer on how to play dvds in totem without "breaking up" - can anyone help
[01:46] <aunes> bayziders: Is there an easy way to install it? I didn't see installation instructions on their website
[01:46] <HorizonXP> but I love Ubuntu... it just works
[01:46] <mapez> bayziders I heard it messed up a few peoples installations.. I would just wait until the final erlease
[01:47] <Mr_Giraffe> HorizonXP, exactly
[01:47] <neozen-class> HorizonXP: yep
[01:47] <chocobo> jrib: or go right edgy?
[01:47] <jrib> chocobo: it is probably a lot easier for you to just install 7.04 in a week.  Or 6.10 now and then upgrading in a week
[01:47] <atselby> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html
[01:47] <neozen-class> !final
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about final - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <bayziders> Took me like 5 minutes to install
[01:47] <chocobo> jrib: why do i have to wait a week
[01:47] <HorizonXP> chocobo: wait for Feisty Fawn 7.04 to be released
[01:47] <aunes> bayziders: just grab the packages with synaptic/apt and work from there?
[01:47] <neozen-class> when's the next LTS planned to be released?
[01:47] <bokey> HorizonXP, that nick sucks. change it.
[01:47] <HorizonXP> chocobo: i have it installed right now, and it's great
[01:47] <jrib> chocobo: well it is not released as stable yet.  Only a release candidate
[01:47] <Dimetera> well i tried the xubuntu cd on the g3 imac
[01:47] <NewbieBaba> .
[01:47] <Charlatan> well, i guess i just wanted to tell ya'll how happy i am with this thing, can't wait to get working on experiencing my new OS :)
[01:48] <NewbieBaba> hello.
[01:48] <Dimetera> freezes at about 64%
[01:48] <chocobo> jrib: ooo so the real one comes out in a week?
[01:48] <jrib> chocobo: right
[01:48] <bayziders> Hold on aunes
[01:48] <foug> jrib:  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ?
[01:48] <chocobo> jrib: so its safe to upgrade to edgy right now?
[01:48] <HorizonXP> chocobo: but it'll be really stable when it's fully done
[01:48] <niall> I would like to connect to my mac but have no idea how : using Ubuntu 6.10 anyone want a challenge
[01:48] <mapez> Charlatan, be prepared to say Whiskey Tango Foxtrot a few times.. and when you start getting those gaming urges.. Just over ocme them and you will be fine.
[01:48] <HorizonXP> bokey: why? I like this nick
[01:48] <jrib> chocobo: definitely, edgy has been released for 6 months
[01:48] <Mr_Giraffe> chocobo...you're on dapper?
[01:48] <aunes> bayziders: feel free to pm if you find it hard to catch the snippets I type.. I'm interested in Beryl.
[01:48] <Charlatan> mapez haha :)
[01:48] <bokey> heh
[01:48] <jrib> foug: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[01:48] <chocobo> mr_giraffe: ya i am
[01:48] <mapez> Charlatan, trust me.. It is like quiting smoking.
[01:48] <HorizonXP> bokey: the XP is my initials, not for Windows XP or anything
[01:49] <Great_Auk> jrib .. after all the apt-get stuff, (sun-java4-jdk    my Firfox says that it is enabled, but still not working.  Did a "locate java*" .. and got hundreds of lines .. but do not know where ubuntu edgy puts the java stuff
[01:49] <Charlatan> i still have the xp install for those gamingsessions
[01:49] <MSG4> Anyone one here mac users
[01:49] <bokey> HorizonXP, ;)
[01:49] <ataq> I run Ubuntu on 5 tcomps, 3 desktops, 2 servers. considering Ubuntu X64 for my personal workstation. not sure about compatibility
[01:49] <jrib> Great_Auk: you installed sun-java*-plugin?
[01:49] <niall> MSG4 yeah
[01:49] <aunes> Charlatan: I have vista on the workstation and just installed ubuntu on the laptop
[01:49] <bayziders> aunes what video card do you have?
[01:49] <MSG4> niall > macbooK?
[01:49] <Great_Auk> ataq  .. am trying to get ubuntu going on 4 .. limited success, so far
[01:49] <aunes> bayziders: eew. good question. Let me take a look.
[01:49] <niall> yup
[01:49] <Charlatan> im using the 64 bit client, dont know if it will affect programs i can use?
[01:49] <AaronMT> get netbeans
[01:49] <MSG4> niall > dual core 2?
[01:49] <niall> MSG4: yes
[01:50] <aunes> Charlatan: It probably will, yes.
[01:50] <ataq> Great_Auk: ya? how far have you gotten?
[01:50] <MSG4> niall > I'm still deciding what to buy
[01:50] <chocobo> jrib: if i have installed kde will will the desktop enviornment stay?
[01:50] <mjr> Charlatan, I don't think sun's 64-bit jdk includes the browser plugin, if that's what you're wondering
[01:50] <jrib> chocobo: yes
[01:50] <HorizonXP> anyone know Python? I want to fix a deskbar applet bug/
[01:50] <Great_Auk> jrib .. I have it downloaded, but cannot find a home directory where ubuntu puts java for everyone to use
[01:50] <bokey> Charlatan, it's not that Linux lacks gaming support. Blame Game company and Graphics card manufacturers
[01:50] <shawn34> Charlatan, yes, certain apps will not run on 64 bit, some apps are not avail on 64bit and the configuration to get certain things to work can be much different
[01:51] <Charlatan> aunes I dont really know what programs ill miss before ive used this a while so i wont stress
[01:51] <MSG4> macbook pro / macbook / ibook
[01:51] <aunes> bayziders: haha. nevermind. I have integrated video. I didn't know if this laptop had a vid card or no.
[01:51] <niall> MSG4 : well I love the thing despite the first batch of batteries being a complete wash
[01:51] <aunes> Charlatan: wine was my biggest trouble for 64bit last time I tried it.
[01:51] <Charlatan> this seems to be the right place to get help anyhow
[01:51] <jrib> Great_Auk: hmm, you aren't supposed to download it, you should be using the package manager like Add/remove or synaptic or apt-get
[01:51] <Great_Auk> ataq:  .. got the stuff from a disk, and all the upgrades from ubuntu .. that's about it, so far
[01:51] <asc> I'm looking for a terminal-based PDF viewer.  Has anyone heard of such a thing?
[01:51] <niall> MSG4: if you like you can pull OSX off and stick Ubuntu on it haha
[01:51] <jrib> Great_Auk: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:51] <bayziders> So do I, I have a intergraded intel i810
[01:51] <Charlatan> aunes wine is used for emulating games and such?
[01:51] <NewbieBaba> Hello. I want to install ubuntu on my home computer n im getting "your session only lasted less than 10 seconds" error when i tried to install it anyone can help me with it :(. Tim
[01:51] <bokey> asc, what you mean by terminal based ?
[01:51] <ubuntu> any know were u can find a grub bootable cd
[01:52] <aunes> Charlatan: used for emulating windows in general.
[01:52] <pyrak> anyone know what text editor i can get that's similar to notepad2?
[01:52] <shawn34> Charlatan, I have a 64bit amd, tried 64bit ubuntu once for about 3 days and went back to 32
[01:52] <kundalinijack> we're pretty new to the ubuntu system and absolutely love it - however, we're trying to watch dvds, and so far have had no luck in getting it to play them without breaking up. we're running ubuntu on a former imac (giggle)
[01:52] <Great_Auk> jrib .. all the files, etc from the manager that have 'java' in them, are already installed
[01:52] <Fathefner> any know were u can find a grub bootable cd
[01:52] <MSG4> niall so u mean the battery wouldn't last longer ?
[01:52] <Charlatan> shawn34 i have 64bit amd myself. is that so? bah, have to do it all over then : /
[01:52] <asc> bokey: One that can be used in a terminal or tty.  For example, it would be useable over ssh.
[01:52] <Flannel> !grub | Fathefner, first link
[01:52] <jsuggs> Hi, I am having some troubles getting with my onboard NIC for my new motherboard GA-965P-DS3 LGA can anyone help?
[01:52] <ubotu> Fathefner, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:52] <ataq> Great_Auk: Have you tried browser plugins, multimedia codecs or wine applications?
[01:52] <Charlatan> is there no advantages to the 64bit?
[01:52] <shawn34> kundalinijack, which version of ubuntu?
[01:52] <bokey> asc, you could always convert pdf to dvi/tex and read it
[01:52] <Great_Auk> shawn34,  I have a dual-64-bit  AMD that I'm trying to get a 64-bit on
[01:53] <MarkFeathers> Charlatan: You can use more memory, that is about it
[01:53] <pyrak> anyone know of a good text editor i can use?
[01:53] <Great_Auk> not yet
[01:53] <Fathefner> ive tryed to make a grub bootable cd and they dont work
[01:53] <jrib> Great_Auk: that doesn't necessarily mean you have installed sun-java*-plugin.  You said 4 before, so what does this return:  'apt-cache policy sun-java4-plugin
[01:53] <Flannel> Charlatan: there's lots of advantages.  But most of them don't greatly affect regular users
[01:53] <kundalinijack> thanks shawn - it's 6.04, that is - I belive ;-)
[01:53] <Fathefner> anyone have a suggestion
[01:53] <shawn34> kundalinijack, dapper?
[01:53] <zbrown> Charlatan: there are advantages, but most of the time you'll never know the difference between 64 bit and 32 bit as a regular user
[01:53] <HorizonXP> hey, why can't i join the #python channel?
[01:53] <kundalinijack> uh, dunno
[01:53] <aunes> bayziders: random SiS gfx card. what's needed for beryl again?
[01:53] <IRONCOW> how does one install this thing called beryl?
[01:54] <Flannel> IRONCOW: #ubuntu-effects will get you all setup
[01:54] <asc> bokey: That would also work, although I haven't found a handy program for converting to text.
[01:54] <IRONCOW> thanks
[01:54] <jsuggs> since I can't get it to recognize my NIC I can't use any of the online repositories
[01:54] <kundalinijack> we are pretty new to it
[01:54] <MarkFeathers> IRONCOW: go to wiki.beryl-project.org and that will give good instructions
[01:54] <NewbieBaba> HorizonXP : you need registered nick to join tht channel lol
[01:54] <jrib> HorizonXP: are you registered and identified?
[01:54] <HorizonXP> no i'm not
[01:54] <ceeg> how do I give a user permissions to read/write /var/www?
[01:54] <zbrown> Charlatan: generally in 64bit linux, only the kernel is running 64 bit, and a few programs running with 64 bit libraries. Most userland applications are 32 bit
[01:54] <HorizonXP> /identify HorizonXP
[01:54] <asc> Found one for HTML, and I suppose I could strip the tags.
[01:54] <niall> MSG4: sorry Beryl just took a nose dive
[01:54] <jrib> !register > HorizonXP    (HorizonXP, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:54] <Charlatan> zbrown thanks, I might go for the 32bit later this weekend when I have some spare time
[01:54] <ataq> zbrown: only with certain apps that were specially designed for 64 bit, not just port
[01:54] <HorizonXP> sweet, thanks
[01:54] <HorizonXP> hey guys, question
[01:55] <Great_Auk> jrib  .. returns:  unableto  locate that plugin
[01:55] <NewbieBaba> jrib register me too please :p
[01:55] <HorizonXP> i wanna upgrade my desktop PC
[01:55] <Fathefner> is there away that i can install grub from the bootable cd
[01:55] <jrib> Great_Auk: what version of ubuntu are you using
[01:55] <zbrown> ataq: well ya, i didn't want to get in to too much detail
[01:55] <chocobo> jrib: woah i am on breezy badger not dapper
[01:55] <bokey> asc, did you try pdf2ps/ps2ascii ?
[01:55] <MarkFeathers> Fathefner: yes
[01:55] <shawn34> kundalinijack, 6.06 is dapper, 6.10 is edgy, 5.10 is breezy... which one?
[01:55] <jrib> chocobo: right, breezy is 5.10
[01:55] <Great_Auk> jrib ... edgy  6.10
[01:55] <jsuggs> I've started trying to compile a new kernel but am having some difficulties.  I guess I would like to know if there is an easier way than a new kernel
[01:55] <nixnoob> how do i turn off aiglx?
[01:55] <jrib> NewbieBaba: /msg ubotu register
[01:55] <HorizonXP> right now, it's an Athlon XP 2500+ Barton, Asus nForce2 board, 1.25GB RAM, ATI video card
[01:55] <chocobo> jrib: so firsti need to upgrade to dapper or to edgy?
[01:55] <zbrown> jsuggs: why compile the new kernel?
[01:55] <MarkFeathers> jsuggs: why are you compiling a new kernel?
[01:55] <jrib> chocobo: you first need to ugprade to dapper
[01:55] <Charlatan> thanks alot for the help guys, ill swing by here later
[01:55] <bokey> nixnoob, edit your xorg.conf
[01:55] <Mr_Giraffe> Fathefner, it installs automatically with ubuntu
[01:56] <HorizonXP> what would be the best valued upgrade path?
[01:56] <nixnoob> bokey to include what?
[01:56] <kundalinijack> thnx shawn - it's 6.06 - we just updated to it
[01:56] <HorizonXP> that would be most compatible with Ubuntu
[01:56] <NewbieBaba> jrib : ty
[01:56] <AaronMT> everything
[01:56] <AaronMT> new motherboard
[01:56] <bokey> nixnoob, look in your xorg.conf, you'll know
[01:56] <HorizonXP> really?
[01:56] <HorizonXP> well
[01:56] <jsuggs> doesn't recognize my onboard nic
[01:56] <jrib> Great_Auk: then you probably want sun-java5-plugin, what does 'apt-cache policy sun-java5-plugin' return?
[01:56] <pyrak> can someone give me some suggestions on how to increase my screen real-estate
[01:56] <AaronMT> depends on your needs
[01:56] <Fathefner> is there a way since i already have ubuntu installed that i can install grub
[01:56] <pyrak> i feel like i had so much more room iwas more zoomed outn xp, everything
[01:56] <HorizonXP> school work, development, electronics design
[01:56] <jsuggs> for my motherboard GA-965P-DS3
[01:57] <shawn34> kundalinijack, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[01:57] <Sakabatou> what are the chances to be released a working stable, asus wl 138g driver ?
[01:57] <Mr_Giraffe> pyrak, i lowered the pixels per inch in fonts
[01:57] <Mr_Giraffe> that did the trick for me
[01:57] <zbrown> jsuggs: so modprobe it?
[01:57] <kundalinijack> thanks a lot
[01:57] <kundalinijack> appreciate it
[01:57] <pyrak> Mr_Giraffe, how do i go about doing that (im a total linux newbie)
[01:57] <asc> bokey: I haven't.  They don't appear in apt-get, but I'll look them up.
[01:57] <Mr_Giraffe> don't worry, it's not hard
[01:57] <Mr_Giraffe> (really)
[01:57] <kundalinijack> we'll check it out, shawn
[01:57] <HorizonXP> AaronMT: What do you think?
[01:57] <Mr_Giraffe> system->preferences->font
[01:58] <theonlyalt> pyrak: if your talkin resolution this just fixed it for me. sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:58] <Mr_Giraffe> then details, and change dpi as you want
[01:58] <AaronMT> HorizonXP get a dual core machine
[01:58] <Mr_Giraffe> theonlyalt, i don't think he means resolution
[01:58] <Mr_Giraffe> ubuntu is a lot more spread out than XP is, he's right
[01:58] <pyrak> well, i think i have the resolution set right
[01:58] <Great_Auk> jrib .. that returns:  Installed (none)   candidate 1.5.0-06-1   (and I do have the right repositories)
[01:58] <Mr_Giraffe> pyrak, you probably do
[01:58] <HorizonXP> AaronMT: Core2 Duo?
[01:58] <jrib> Great_Auk: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[01:59] <pyrak> but like in gedit, i the font is way too big
[01:59] <Mr_Giraffe> just try what i suggested and see if that helps
[01:59] <AaronMT> ya
[01:59] <pyrak> ok
[01:59] <theonlyalt> just sayin... you can add larger resolutions through that command.....
[01:59] <HorizonXP> AaronMT: They seem so pricey right now though...
[01:59] <jsuggs> @zbrown, can you walk me through it?
[01:59] <Mr_Giraffe> theonlyalt, not ones that are bigger than your monitor can allow though, right?
[01:59] <pyrak> Mr_Giraffe what's the linux equivalent of courier new (fixed-width code-reading font)
[01:59] <Great_Auk> thankx,  jrib  .. will try that
[01:59] <Fathefner> is there a grub that can be bootable off a cd
[01:59] <Mr_Giraffe> pyrak, you can download courier new actually :D
[01:59] <AaronMT> Whatever you buy, the moment you purchase it, its oudated.
[01:59] <Fathefner> that u can download
[01:59] <Fathefner> and burn
[01:59] <Mr_Giraffe> of course...i forget the command
[01:59] <jsuggs> I'm not a complete noob, but just haven't done much at the kernel level
[02:00] <aldin> hi, i want to compile something but i get this error QTDIR not set http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15295/
[02:01] <theonlyalt> exactly, but some of the drivers don't show all the possible resolutions to fit a monitor if installed at some point after the installation... take nvidia for example...
[02:01] <jrib> !compiling > aldin    (aldin, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:01] <jrib> aldin: you probably need the qt -dev packages
[02:01] <helloyo> hey guys, are there any dvorak converts here?
[02:03] <theonlyalt> ok. i'm outta here...
[02:03] <peepsalot_> i need some help with a usb networking device.  i'm not sure if the thing is defective.  it won't show the power led when i plug it in
[02:03] <peepsalot_> i tried to follow a tutorial for setting up ndiswrapper but it did not work
[02:03] <syntaxx> anyone here already setup a samba with pam_mysql? i can login using smbclient just fine but when i tried to login using windows it just ask for a username and password again and again..
[02:04] <peepsalot_> i do sudo ifup wlan0 and it says no such device
[02:04] <peepsalot_> any ideas?
[02:04] <davisc> syntaxx: You know about samba encrypted passwords?
[02:04] <syntaxx> davisc: not entirely
[02:05] <aldin> jrib i have them libqt3-mt-dev
[02:05] <Xintruder> hi
[02:05] <Xintruder> installing ubuntu is so easy :/ ... !
[02:05] <syntaxx> davisc: can you help me then?
[02:05] <davisc> syntaxx: windows encrypts passwords in what in called an NT Lanman hash (NTLM)
[02:06] <niall> can someone help me with a networking problem?
[02:06] <syntaxx> davisc: ok so what im gonna do?
[02:06] <davisc> syntaxx: When a windows client connects to a samba server, it provides the password as an NTLM hash
[02:06] <Weems> for some reason skype wont load http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15281/
[02:06] <Great_Auk> jrib .. thanks, that got it to work  :-)
[02:06] <HorizonXP> AaronMT: I realize that, which is why i don't want to spend a ton
[02:06] <niall> I  am trying to connect to my mac but have no idea how? Im using edgy
[02:06] <jrib> aldin: if test "" = ""; then echo QTDIR not set!; exit 1; fi;    looks dumb to me, won't taht always enter the if statement?
[02:06] <davisc> syntaxx: Passwords on linux are never stored as an NTLM hash
[02:07] <Xintruder> guys, can I completely edi how my ubunu looks like? any screen shos link?
[02:07] <jrib> !themes > Xintruder    (Xintruder, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:07] <syntaxx> davisc: ok then so what will i do then?
[02:07] <aldin> jrib, i know i could explain it to my self neither check this it is script http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15297/
[02:07] <blizz94> Hi Guys, I want to make my computer a server so i Download unbunto Server but it is all i have to do for my pc run like a server
[02:08] <blizz94> Hi Guys, I want to make my computer a server so i Download unbunto Server and install it. but it is all i have to do for my pc run like a server?
[02:08] <billy> how large should I make my / partition?
[02:08] <davisc> syntaxx: So you can do 2 things. 1. Get the Windows client to provide a plain text password, which the linux server creates a hash of and compares to the stored hash (unsecure and requires each Windows client to be modified) 2. When a password is created on linux, create a NTLM hash as well. Thing is, that is isn't stored in mysql in your case. It's stored in a seperate, samba only store
[02:08] <MasterOfDisaster> as big as you want...
[02:08] <JacktheHomeless> Hey guys, I have a major problem. For some reason, my desktop is giving me some weird fisheye effect. For instance, the icons near the outside of the screen are smaller than the ones in the center.
[02:09] <jrib> aldin: hmm, I wonder how $QTDIR is supposed to be set.  Is there a README or INSTALL file?
[02:09] <MasterOfDisaster> no, really, how big is your hardrive?
[02:09] <cafuego> billy: That depends. if you split /usr and /home, a few hundred MB will do. If you split off /home, 2GB minimum, 4GB would be ideal.
[02:09] <JacktheHomeless> woah... it didnt put in all of my question
[02:09] <cafuego> JacktheHomeless: CRT screen?
[02:09] <aldin> jrib, yes this is ls output: CHANGELOG  GPL  INSTALL  KTrafficAnalyzer-0.3.6-1.spec  KTrafficAnalyzer.cpp  lib  Makefile  settings  stats  TODO
[02:09] <blizz94> I want to Install counter-strike server and Ventrilo and teamspeak server ON ubuntu do i have to just install ubuntu for all my server work?
[02:09] <davisc> syntaxx: So in the end of the day, there's no secure, good way to authenticate off pam_mysql
[02:09] <JacktheHomeless> cafuego: yes, CRT
[02:09] <jrib> aldin: what does INSTALL say?
[02:10] <billy> thanks cafuego.  That must not be what's breaking my installation then.
[02:10] <cafuego> JacktheHomeless: Time to twiddle its settings, I think.
[02:10] <Mr_Giraffe> for some reason, i can't open nautilus, gdmsetup, or a bunch of other things as root
[02:10] <Mr_Giraffe> ...anybody know why that might be?
[02:10] <JacktheHomeless> cafuego: well its only doing it in ubuntu, in windows its not like that.
[02:10] <blizz94> I want to Install counter-strike server and Ventrilo and teamspeak server ON ubuntu do i have to just install ubuntu for all my server work?
[02:10] <cafuego> billy: ( a complete install does for within 2GB, but leaves no space to actually do anything :-)
[02:11] <NewbieBaba> jrib : i have re-installation problem with Ubuntu can u assist me please ? :/
[02:11] <NewbieBaba> jrib : Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of disk space. Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem.
[02:11] <NewbieBaba> This is the content of ~/.xsessions file:
[02:11] <billy> cafuego, I set it to 4GiB, with 5% reserved.  Just trying to pin down what's breaking my installation process.
[02:11] <jrib> NewbieBaba: are you out of disk space?
[02:11] <cafuego> JacktheHomeless: Probably the videod river doing some sort of compensation. I certainly know of no X extesnion that renders the desktop as seen through a fisheye. (Not one that is installed (by default) as aprt of Ubuntu anyway)
[02:11] <blizz94> I want to Install counter-strike server and Ventrilo and teamspeak server ON ubuntu do i have to just install ubuntu for all my server work?
[02:11] <NewbieBaba> jrib : baba i installed Ubuntu 6.10 n updated the files it needed reboot n then i rebooted it
[02:12] <NewbieBaba> jrib : it gave me that Error
[02:12] <trpr_> blizz94: heh. of course not. its just an operating system. A server is network software that listens for connections. You will of course want to install hlds and ventrilo seperately, after unbuntu is running
[02:12] <Xintruder> is ubuntu free bsd ?
[02:12] <trpr_> no
[02:12] <jrib> NewbieBaba: how are you talking to me now?  Can I give you commands to try on the Ubuntu computer?
[02:12] <JacktheHomeless> cafuego: Hmm, my vid card drivers were installed via envy. I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling them.
[02:12] <davisc> syntaxx: Probably not the answer you were looking for...
[02:12] <NewbieBaba> jrib : baba my English is sux n i am newbie on Linux :(
[02:12] <vimalg2> Does anyone know eisty will we available thru Shipit.
[02:13] <NewbieBaba> jrib : sorry to bother you but im lookin for help for 3 days already
[02:13] <cafuego> JacktheHomeless: I meant the wiondows ones are compensating. Under Linux, you should twiddle the CRT buttons to make it display properly.
[02:13] <NewbieBaba> jrib : can i PM u please ?
[02:13] <jrib> NewbieBaba: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[02:13] <Fathefner> were is the menu.lst is ubuntu 6.10
[02:13] <JacktheHomeless> cafuego: Ohhhh ok, ill give it a shot, give me a second
[02:13] <jrib> Fathefner: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:14] <ceeg> i typed 'sudo vigr' in a console and nothing happened and now sudo works no more. (im sshed into another machine)
[02:14] <vimalg2> can someone here tell me some good multi-booting strategies?
[02:14] <vimalg2> I plan to install Ubuntu on hda1
[02:15] <vimalg2> then a cpl of other distros on hda2,3
[02:15] <foug> my taskbar is always expanded even though i have it unchecked. The only time it stays not expanded, it usually when I first turn my computer on and open a few programs, then after a few minutes it takes up the whole bottom of my screen again
[02:15] <vimalg2> at the end of the disk i'll leave WinXP for some office work on the last logical partition
[02:15] <JacktheHomeless> cafuego: nothing im doing in the CRT settings is giving me any option to unskew the screen. All im getting are pan left right up and down, and stretch left right up and down
[02:15] <car_watt> Hi people I have a file with extension XviD (video) I download codecs and install gxine and mplayer but i dont saw nothing any suggestion about it )
[02:17] <JacktheHomeless> cafuego: Give me a sec, im gonna pull out an old CRT monitor and see if it does it on that one
[02:17] <Balzac> hello
[02:17] <cafuego> JacktheHomeless: most crt's also have concavity and various other rotate/blend/whatever settings
[02:17] <car_watt> Hi people I have a file with extension XviD (video) I download codecs and install gxine and mplayer but i dont saw nothing any suggestion about it )
[02:17] <Balzac> http://devloop.lyua.org/blog/index.php?2007/04/01/426-pornbuntu-la-distribution-linux-qui-vous-fait-du-bien <--- where can i download this?
[02:18] <ceeg> i typed 'sudo vigr' in a console and nothing happened and now sudo works no more. (im sshed into another machine) this is pretty urgent help would be appreciated
[02:18] <Fathefner> jrib: what about on the live cd
[02:18] <preaction> Balzac: that loooks like an april fools joke.
[02:18] <Balzac> well, someone in #gentoo-chat gave me that link
[02:19] <Balzac> then the banned me for saying "ass"
[02:19] <Ademan_> anyone here build their stuff with sconstruct?
[02:19] <Balzac> is "ass" a banned word in #ubuntu?
[02:19] <cafuego> Balzac: It's best to avoid any contact with gentoo anything
[02:19] <cafuego> Balzac: Not in relation to gentoo, no.
[02:19] <preaction> !language | Balzac, not "banned" per se.
[02:19] <ubotu> Balzac, not "banned" per se.: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:19] <Balzac> i'm trying to find the porn-friendly distro
[02:19] <Ademan_> Balzac: your name is Balzac hehe...
[02:20] <preaction> Balzac: that link you gave is an april fools joke, every computer is porn-friendly
[02:20] <Balzac> i don't want to invest my juices in a distro which subscribes to the puritanical american mainstream banned word list
[02:20] <cafuego> preaction: Vista might not be; depending on DRM ;-)
[02:20] <aubade> Did anyone ever find a workaround for getting MPD to cooperate with Upstart @ boot?
[02:20] <MasterShrek> running dapper drake, and after some updates i get a grub error 24, booting knoppix right now to try and debug...anyone know the cause of grub error 24?
[02:20] <Balzac> i want a distro which has "fuck" packages in the official repository
[02:20] <preaction> Balzac: uhm... i don't believe that any computer OS anywhere has a list of "banned words"
[02:21] <Balzac> well i was told "watch your language"
[02:21] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Balzac
[02:21] <ubotu> Balzac: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:21] <ceeg> Balzac: You should probably try the support channel for that distro, instead of this one.
[02:21] <Balzac> and then i was told it was freenode policy
[02:21] <Balzac> family friendly?
[02:21] <IRONCOW> I now have the emerald themer and beryl installed
[02:21] <preaction> Balzac: not freenode policy, this is a Support channel for ubuntu. children could be here.
[02:21] <IRONCOW> I just don't understand how to use it
[02:21] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Balzac
[02:21] <ubotu> Balzac: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:21] <aubade> We have daycare and family Fridays...
[02:21] <cafuego> Balzac: There is a distinction between "the puritanical american mainstream banned word list" and "there are children here, mind your manners"
[02:22] <Balzac> god forbid any child should ever see the string "ass". it could destroy a fragile, innocent mind.
[02:22] <IRONCOW> there is no "help file"
[02:22] <deepsa> good morning people
[02:22] <ceeg> Balzac: No-one here is going to bite, try somewhere else.
[02:22] <jtt> deepsa: morning is relative on this channel
[02:23] <cafuego> Balzac: it's common courtesy, nothing more. Tyr it sometime.
[02:23] <deepsa> jtt: i just wanted to say
[02:23] <Balzac> ceeg, if no one here "bites" than this may be where i belong
[02:23] <IRONCOW> how do you make a new emerald theme "work" in ubuntu edgy
[02:23] <PriceChild> jtt, It is always morning when a person enters, and evening when they leave. IRC rules :P
[02:23] <adsims> argh... my edgy eft crashes whenever I use DownThemAll in Firefox and in many other situations. I have checked /var/log/messages and there is nothing helpful
[02:23] <Balzac> i don't want to get bitten
[02:23] <PriceChild> IRONCOW, #ubuntu-effects please :)
[02:23] <PriceChild> !offtopic > Balzac
[02:23] <jtt> PriceChild: ok thanks was not aware of that one
[02:23] <cafuego> Now, there is my crack pipe...
[02:23] <PriceChild> jtt, hehe :)
[02:24] <Balzac> where's the designate free speech area/chat of ubuntu
[02:24] <adsims> i tried upgrading to feisty and it crashed then too.
[02:24] <trpr> Balzac: the op is always right, even when he's wrong. you know how authority works
[02:24] <Balzac> trpr, exactly
[02:24] <icyhot> IRONCOW: launch emerald theme manager and import your theme file.
[02:24] <jtt> PriceChild: are you pulling my leg :-)
[02:24] <Balzac> i'm looking for a distro which doesn't embrace authoritarianism
[02:24] <cafuego> Balzac: There is #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:24] <Balzac> right...
[02:24] <trpr> Balzac: you should probably take it to unbuntu-offtopic.. not support related
[02:24] <PriceChild> jtt, No, that's just general etiquette kind of thing, anyway this is offtopic :)
[02:24] <Balzac> offtopic sounds very inviting
[02:24] <pyrak> can someone help me import my songs into my rhythmbox library?  it says the plug to decode "mp3" files couldn't be found
[02:24] <cafuego> Which is for general non-support-related babble and whatnot
[02:24] <aubade> Anyone have a support question instead of theatrics? X(
[02:25] <JacktheHomeless> cafuego: damn, that other monitor doesnt work. But one thing i noticed, is that ubuntu isnt allowing me to change resolutions either. The screen just blacks out then returns to where it was.
[02:25] <Balzac> we'll see how long it takes me to get banned in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:25] <aubade> !mp3 | pyrak
[02:25] <jtt> ok whoever said good morning what is your question
[02:25] <cafuego> Balzac: With a bit of work, 2 seconds should be doable.
[02:25] <ubotu> pyrak: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:25] <Balzac> btw, kurt vonegutt died today
[02:25] <trpr> omg!
[02:25] <miyako> hello
[02:26] <cafuego> JacktheHomeless: Hmm. Dos it support all resolutions you're switching between?
[02:26] <JacktheHomeless> cafuego: yup, i was trying to switch from 1024x768 to 800x600 just to see if it fixed the skewing.
[02:27] <ceeg> i typed 'sudo vigr' in a console and nothing happened and now sudo works no more. (im sshed into another machine) this is pretty urgent :[
[02:28] <cafuego> JacktheHomeless: ... at the specified refresh rate?
[02:28] <cafuego> JacktheHomeless: You may need to twiddle the hsync/vsync rates in the cfg file
[02:29] <Mr_Giraffe> ceeg, i'm having a similar problem
[02:29] <JacktheHomeless> cafuego: at the standard refresh rate selected. However, i did just get it to change and now it is even more messed up. The skewing isnt as bad, but theres a big bar like thing running through the top menu bar
[02:30] <adsims> exit
[02:30] <adsims> whoops
[02:30] <ceeg> Mr_Giraffe: idk what i can do. the machine im logged into is across town and i cant sudo a single command.
[02:30] <JacktheHomeless> cafuego: you have to understand, im an ubuntu noob. Is there any other simpler way to try to fix it?
[02:31] <JacktheHomeless> cafuego: OK i just tried to take a screenshot to hopefully show you whats going on, and all it did was make a little grey box with a red X in the middle
[02:31] <LM1> can anyone help me.... I have an AMD 690 chipset and a 65nm x2 dual core... but neither edgy or feisty beta will boot into live cd
[02:31] <LM1> knoppix wont either
[02:32] <NewbieBaba> Hello, I have ubuntu 6.10 n i want to use MSN which program can i use. Gaim always having troubles..
[02:32] <LM1> windows xp runs ok... but yuk... I dun want xp
[02:32] <LM1> :c
[02:32] <car_watt> you need to install amsn
[02:32] <chuckielol> <NewbieBaba: amsn
[02:32] <DjViper> NewbieBaba: hmm, I'm having no problems with gaim here, but msn itself isnt exactly known to be 'stable'
[02:33] <Xappe> NewbieBaba: amsn perhaps?
[02:33] <NewbieBaba> i have 1k ppl on my contact list thats why i think :p
[02:33] <NewbieBaba> AMSN hmm
[02:33] <NewbieBaba> i tried it
[02:33] <NewbieBaba> n it wanted to make me install TBL or something like that
[02:33] <NewbieBaba> i tried every TBL on the list
[02:33] <NewbieBaba> but it didnt connect :/
[02:33] <Death_Sargent> nm-applet is not detecting any wireless connectionis
[02:33] <LM1> I like meebo
[02:33] <NewbieBaba> sorry guys i am really newbie on linux
[02:33] <LM1> meebo is a web based gaim type program
[02:34] <Death_Sargent> anyone?
[02:34] <HorizonXP> :-)
[02:34] <Death_Sargent> nm-applet
[02:34] <Death_Sargent> gnome network manager
[02:34] <pyrak> what architecture does my standard hp pavilion notebook have?
[02:34] <DjViper> Death_Sargent: checked your wlan driver?
[02:34] <pyrak> i386?
[02:34] <Death_Sargent> pyrak: I need more info than that
[02:34] <DjViper> is the card active?
[02:34] <NewbieBaba> DjViper : baba anything to fix GAIM ? i want to use my MSN acc on it :/
[02:35] <Death_Sargent> yes the card works
[02:35] <Death_Sargent> it works with the default edgy network monitor app
[02:35] <DjViper> NewbieBaba: I dunno, it just works here
[02:35] <Metal03> Hi there, I've installed Filezilla with the "sudo apt-get install filezilla" command, but now I'd like to update it...  how do I do this?
[02:35] <NewbieBaba> anyone ? how to fix GAIM msn problem
[02:35] <Death_Sargent> pyrack: unless its an amd64 I would go with i386
[02:35] <DjViper> Metal03: sudo apt-get update filezilla
[02:36] <Death_Sargent>  DjViper: yes it is active
[02:36] <Death_Sargent> DjViper: the card works
[02:36] <DjViper> Death_Sargent: okay
[02:36] <Death_Sargent> DjViper: its this application that does not work
[02:36] <Metal03> DjViper : I get this message when I do it : "E: The update command takes no arguments"
[02:36] <DjViper> Death_Sargent: I've given up the NM applet myself, but im having problems with my card
[02:37] <Death_Sargent> DjViper: what is the issue you are having
[02:37] <syntaxx> davisc: thanks it works now
[02:37] <jvai> msn works on dapper/gaim 1..5 well now it does.
[02:37] <DjViper> Death_Sargent: messed up drivers etc
[02:37] <Death_Sargent> DjViper: ack
[02:37] <superkirbyartist> Hi everyone.
[02:37] <DjViper> card is not initalizing etc
[02:37] <DjViper> Death_Sargent: what sort of card do you have?
[02:37] <Frogzoo> anyone had probems with openoffice spreadsheet refusing to open?
[02:37] <superkirbyartist> Ubuntu hangs every time I load Beryl.
[02:37] <DjViper> chip/model
[02:38] <Kyle__> Evening Everyone
[02:38] <Frogzoo> superkirbyartist: is beryl out of beta?
[02:38] <mindstate> is there a way i can assign any program i want to a shortcut key in gnome?
[02:38] <Frogzoo> superkirbyartist: -> #ubuntu-effects
[02:38] <Metal03> Hello, trying to update filezilla with "sudo apt-get update filezilla" but I get this error message : "E: The update command takes no arguments"  Any ideas?
[02:39] <superkirbyartist> Frogzoo: Beryl was RC, then stable
[02:39] <anandanbu> how do i install flock web browser in Ubuntu
[02:39] <cafuego> Frogzoo: Honestly, it's not out of alpha.
[02:39] <mindstate> anandanbu, i believe flock doesnt need installation, just download and run
[02:39] <DjViper> mindstate: system - preferences - keyboard shortcuts
[02:39] <mindstate> DjViper, yeah but everything is pre-assigned.. i want a shortcut to open up  VLC but my default sound player is rhytmbox, how can i change this
[02:39] <Firefoxman> Help!
[02:40] <superkirbyartist> mindstate: Don't diss rhythmbox!
[02:40] <mindstate> superkirbyartist, i like vlc :)
[02:40] <superkirbyartist> Mindstate: But can it play radio?
[02:40] <DjViper> superkirbyartist: vlc is far superior...
[02:40] <mindstate> superkirbyartist, i dont listen to the radio anyway
[02:40] <mindstate> lol
[02:40] <Mr_Giraffe> i can't open gdmsetup without being logged in under root :/
[02:40] <DjViper> mindstate: I dunno how to add keys there
[02:40] <DjViper> sorry
[02:40] <superkirbyartist> Yeah, you probably use LimeWire.
[02:40] <mindstate> ok
[02:41] <Mr_Giraffe> this is the output when i tried "sudo gdmsetup": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15299/
[02:41] <mindstate> superkirbyartist, no bittorrent :)
[02:41] <superkirbyartist> MindState: Isn't BitTorrent used to download Ubuntu?
[02:41] <mindstate> superkirbyartist, i didnt download ubuntu from bittorrent
[02:41] <Frogzoo> mindstate: you need to look in system -> configuration editor => apps - metacity - and set the bingings there
[02:41] <kundalinijack> in totem player we have now made it possibole to hear the sound without it breaking up, but still the picture is breaking up - what should we do? we have checked with the help on ubuntu...
[02:41] <moconnor> I've been mirroring Ubuntu Dapper (dapper-security) for months.  Recently my mirroring stopped working (I'm using debmirror) w/ an error saying "gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found").  Did something recently change on the mirror (archive.ubuntu.com)?
[02:42] <mindstate> Frogzoo, ok thanks ill check that
[02:42] <Puppy_> In the mac os when you close down a app, it does not quit the app. Instead it runs in the back round. In kubuntu some apps do this too. is there anyway to make some of my favorite apps stay up in the back round? thanks!
[02:42] <mindstate> Frogzoo, there is no configuration editor
[02:42] <anandanbu_> how do i install Flock web browser in Ubuntu 7.04
[02:42] <Firefoxman> How do I get pysqllite?
[02:42] <w0_-oT> Maybe some one can tell me if Linux has support for Flash Programming? Something simular to FlashMX for Windows?
[02:42] <Frogzoo> mindstate: mindstate system tools -> config..
[02:43] <Mr_Giraffe> w0_-oT, flash is a proprietary technology, so i imagine no.
[02:44] <LM1> :C anyone know any live cds that use the latest bleeding edge kernel
[02:44] <Metal03> Can I install files "tar.bz2" ?
[02:44] <LM1> perhaps that will work with the amd 690 chipset?
[02:44] <_goofy_> im having problems booting...... it freezes up durring login
[02:44] <ffm> How do I get PySQLite
[02:44] <mindstate> Frogzoo, thanks dude
[02:44] <ffm> !info PySQLite
[02:44] <ubotu> Package pysqlite does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:45] <EnsignRedshirt> Metal03: "tar.bz2" is just a bunch of files in an archive.  Whether or not you can install them depends on what is in the archive.
[02:45] <w0_-oT> Mr_Giraffe, Thank's for the responce. I have just migrated to linux and would love to find some OpenSource Web Developing tools.
[02:45] <Adsum> a quick question (i hope): when not running gnome as windows manager how do i set the theme for gnome programs? So far i found gnome-theme-manager but then i get a gui too... just want to do it from commandline with no input from user
[02:46] <ffm> help!
[02:46] <_goofy_> is there an error log for logins
[02:46] <ffm> How. Do. I. Get. PySQLite.
[02:46] <Mr_Giraffe> ffm, good luck getting a response D:
[02:46] <Prez_> will Ubuntu 7.04 come with Mysql 5 default?
[02:46] <Mr_Giraffe> lemme look in the universe actually
[02:46] <jrib> ffm: install python-sqlite package
[02:46] <dager> ffm: do what he said
[02:47] <ffm> Thanks, jrib.
[02:47] <Gartra1> does linux have any camara programs that support face tracking cams?
[02:47] <_goofy_> is there an error log for attempted/failed logins
[02:47] <ffm> Aaah. Konversation sux!
[02:48] <JiBEsH> Hi, could somebody tell me how to set up the default web browser on xchat ?
[02:48] <ffm> jrib: How can I make sure I get 1.x.x and not 2.x.x?
[02:48] <ffm> *1.0.x
[02:48] <jrib> !info python-sqlite
[02:48] <ubotu> python-sqlite: python interface to SQLite 2. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-5build1 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 192 kB
[02:48] <jrib> ffm: that's what you will get: 1.0.1-5build1
[02:49] <legos> Hello, could anyone tell me what that really good ubuntu app that works with an MP3 player, I using zen micro.... I forgot what the app was, but it had a sweet gui
[02:49] <ffm> ok.
[02:49] <LM1> does anyone here know how to determine what exactly is causing the edgy and feisty install cd's to lock up
[02:49] <Adsum> JiBEsH: Settings->Advanced->URL handler
[02:49] <ffm> !bot
[02:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:49] <legos> LM1:burn the cd at the lowest possible speed
[02:49] <LM1> yeah I checked them for defects
[02:49] <Mr_Giraffe> oh god another giraffe
[02:49] <legos> !mp3
[02:50] <LM1> they install on my other computer fine
[02:50] <LM1> also
[02:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:50] <JiBEsH> Thanks Adsum but what must i do to set up firefox then ?
[02:50] <ataylor> hi im trying to install build-essential, but it keeps on asking for the ubuntu cd; any way around that?
[02:50] <thisheregiraffe> Mr_Giraffe: good nick :] 
[02:50] <emony> Hi.  I'm a bit lost setting up wireless internet with Ubuntu.  I've read through the tutorials, but I think I'm missing something.  Could someone please help me out for a couple minutes?
[02:50] <LM1> its some bug with the AMD 690 chipset other people on the forums having same issues
[02:50] <LM1> its a shame I can't run ubuntu on my shiny new dual core :C
[02:50] <LM1> thats why I bought it
[02:51] <Puppy_> legos: could it be libmtp?
[02:51] <bthibault> hi there, after i reboot my external hard drive isn't mounted, I can unplug it and plug it back in or I can use `mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1` but it won't automount
[02:51] <jvai> question: i have 1gb of ram, 1.4 processor, is it safe to burn a dvd @ max in gnomebaker? it defaults to 2x
[02:51] <JiBEsH> Ok i found
[02:51] <JiBEsH> thanks
[02:52] <dimas__> pelo
[02:52] <Pelo> "$%??&/ feisty upgrade
[02:52] <mzracer360> does anyone know of a media server program for Ubuntu that my Xbox 360 will recognize?
[02:52] <dimas__> i need some help but not be be refers to a web page please
[02:52] <frank_b> my Jetway PM800BMS motherboard computer doesn't detect my new SATA hard drive. do I need to detect/configure it in my BIOS?
[02:52] <Pelo> dimas__,  what is your problem
[02:53] <Pelo> frank_b, probably
[02:53] <Puppy_> legos: your mp3 player is supported by this software (libmtp).
[02:53] <Pelo> Puppy_,  what mp3 player is this ?
[02:53] <ataylor> hi im trying to install build-essential, but it keeps on asking for the ubuntu cd; any way around that?
[02:53] <frank_b> Pelo, I can't see any option to do that in the BIOS. just for "IDE" hard drives. I don't think SATA falls into that category
[02:54] <Adsum> a quick question (i hope): when not running gnome as windows manager how do i set the theme for gnome programs? So far i found gnome-theme-manager but then i get a gui too... just want to do it from commandline with no input from user
[02:54] <Pelo> ataylor,   open up synaptic,  go to the repos section and uincheck the cdrom at the bottom of the fist tab
[02:54] <Mr_Giraffe> i can't open gdmsetup without being logged in under root :/
[02:54] <legos> Puppy_: i just reinstalled ubuntu, I had this sweet gui app before that picked up the mp3 player automatically, and I could move files around and stuff... it was nice.. I can't remember its name
[02:54] <Mr_Giraffe> this is the output when i tried "sudo gdmsetup": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15299/
[02:55] <Puppy_> Pelo: legos was asking about an app that supported zen micro
[02:55] <Pelo> frank_b,  if you can plug a sata on your mobo it must be able to handle them ,  my sata is setup as a terciary master if that helps
[02:55] <ataylor> Pelo:thanks a lot!
[02:55] <frank_b> Pelo, ok, thanks
[02:55] <Pelo> Puppy_,  what kind of support does this app provide, my mp3 player just works as a flash drive
[02:56] <Puppy_> legos: oh, sorry can't help you. I am a newbie, and just knew about this app. sorry!
[02:56] <dimas__> is not a problem i think i doing something wrong...i did install spca5xx and ov51x drivers for my webcam "creative live vista im" but when i try to test it with any application perhaps camorama saids "could not connect to video device (/dev/devo)"
[02:56] <LM1> does anyone know how to debug the live cd to see why it hangs up?
[02:56] <tommy1987> where can I add in hosts (map hosts to ip addresses)
[02:56] <mindstate> is there  a vlc plugin to use a gamepad controller to control your songs? like in xmms?
[02:56] <tommy1987> a file in /etc somewhere I think?
[02:56] <jvai> question: i have 1gb of ram, 1.4 processor, is it safe to burn a dvd @ max in gnomebaker? it defaults to 2x
[02:56] <rizza> im having trouble getting modem driver compiled help
[02:57] <Mr_Giraffe> rizza, what do you mean?
[02:57] <Pelo> dimas__,  I thik you need gspca** something,  spca5xx is the old version, and you are gonna need to do soemthing with modprobe too, but donT, ask me what  I gave up setting my webcam up after 3 days a few months ago
[02:57] <Puppy_> Pelo: on http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=compatibility gives a list of all the compatible mp3 players.
[02:57] <rizza> sl-modem driver compile using module-assistant fail
[02:57] <mindstate> rizza, do you mean dialup modem?
[02:57] <Pelo> Puppy_,  thanks
[02:58] <Mr_Giraffe> i can't open gdmsetup without being logged in under root--this is the output when i tried "sudo gdmsetup": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15299/
[02:58] <rizza> ubuntu 6.10 problem debian 4.0 no issue
[02:58] <dimas__> pelo when i try to modprobe it doesnt do anything in the terminal
[02:58] <Pelo> dimas__,  sudo ...
[02:59] <dimas__> sudo?
[02:59] <ataylor> cd #compiz
[02:59] <Pelo> dimas__,  sudo modprobe
[02:59] <dimas__> ok
[02:59] <Mr_Giraffe> augh, this is going to be the death of me
[02:59] <xtknight> tommy1987, /etc/hosts
[02:59] <dimas__> thanks
[03:00] <Mr_Giraffe> does ANYBODY know anything about why i can't open gdmsetup or nautilus as root?
[03:00] <tommy1987> just found it lol thanks anyway should have had a look before asking
[03:00] <rizza> anybody use/workwith dial up modems I need help
[03:00] <voidmage> Pelo: not like there's anything else to do while the upgrades download
[03:00] <voidmage> :P
[03:00] <Pelo> Mr_Giraffe, sorry I do not know, are you sure the username you are using as root access ?
[03:01] <HorizonXP> anyone having issues with Feisty Fawn and deskbar-applet?
[03:01] <Pelo> voidmage,  I am not upgrading again today
[03:01] <Mr_Giraffe> Pelo, i can use sudo with other things, just not gdmsetup and nautilus
[03:01] <Pelo> Mr_Giraffe,  check the user settings in system >adming > users
[03:01] <Mr_Giraffe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15299/ this is the paste for gdmsetup, and it's apparently unable to find files that i've never even seen...
[03:01] <clearzen> Mr_Giraffe: you are using gksu nautilus right
[03:02] <Mr_Giraffe> clearzen, yeah
[03:02] <Pelo> rizza,  if no one answers you , try looking in the forum
[03:02] <Mr_Giraffe> gdmsetup literally hangs in the middle of calling a function, though
[03:02] <Mr_Giraffe> minus literally
[03:02] <zues^62> how do i use my soundcard
[03:02] <zues^62> my external sound card
[03:02] <billy> what could cause cd burns to go bad every time?  I'm trying to install ubuntu (feisty), but I get kicked out every time at "select and install programs".  #ubuntu+1 isn't much help.
[03:02] <DjViper> Mr_Giraffe: did you provide the rope?
[03:02] <Pelo> zues^62,  look up your maker and model number in the forum
[03:03] <pyrak> Mr_Giraffe, oi again, now im working on replacing itunes
[03:03] <ffm> HOW do I make somthing to execte on startup?
[03:03] <xtknight> ffm, system->preferences->Sessions
[03:03] <Mr_Giraffe> DjViper, huh?
[03:03] <ffm> I want to start supybot as a service under me.
[03:03] <DjViper> Mr_Giraffe: never mind hehe
[03:03] <Mr_Giraffe> D:
[03:03] <xtknight> ffm, what is supybot?
[03:03] <Mr_Giraffe> well anyway, i still have no idea what's going on
[03:03] <Pelo> billy,  borked cd , bad drive, non supported hardware,  take your pick,  try doing the cd integrity check first
[03:04] <billy> Pelo, how could I test my CD drive to see if it's not reading well or something?
[03:04] <frank_bb> is there anyway to update your BIOS in linux?
[03:04] <Mr_Giraffe> clearzen, do you have any suggestions as to what i should do?
[03:04] <Pelo> billy,  in that live cd menu , there is an option to do it
[03:05] <xtknight> frank_bb,  certainly possible but i dont know of any programs (if you come across it, linuxBIOS is not what you're lookin for.  that's a linux that runs in your bios)
[03:05] <clearzen> Mr_Giraffe: Honestly I don't know. I could look around a bit but I've never seen that happen
[03:05] <Mr_Giraffe> augh
[03:05] <frank_bb> xtknight, ok, thanks
[03:06] <Mr_Giraffe> it works when i log in to root, too...
[03:06] <Mr_Giraffe> maybe i should just make a new user?
[03:06] <Pelo> frank_bb,  you don't want to mess with bios upgrade if you don't know what you are doing,  read your mobo manual for sata setup before you start messing with bios upgrade,   there might be a jumper you need to set to use sata drives
[03:06] <billy> Pelo, the CD checks come back good.  And I'm running an upgrade Feisty already, so i know it's not unsupported hardware.  The CD Drive, perhaps?  Any way to check?
[03:06] <Mr_Giraffe> i think i'll try that, actually, brb
[03:06] <frank_bb> Pelo, I've checked it, but don't see anything about configuring/detecting SATA drives...
[03:06] <clearzen> Mr_Giraffe: could it be something in your .gnome or .gnome2 folders for that user?
[03:07] <Pelo> billy not realy, that is more complicated,  a bad drive might read some cds correctly and not others,  try reading other cds that you wrote with the drive,  that might give you a clue
[03:07] <Mr_Giraffe> i'll check...
[03:07] <Pelo> frank_bb I don'T mean in the bios this time I mean a jumper on the mobo itself, check your manual
[03:07] <frank_bb> Pelo, yes, I've checked for that also. no luck
[03:08] <Pelo> frank_b, check the maker's site then
[03:08] <billy> I need to get away from this computer for a little while.
[03:08] <frank_bb> Pelo, ok. good idea
[03:08] <frank_bb> Pelo, thanks for the advice about not messing with bios updates
[03:08] <strong007> hello..
[03:08] <frank_bb> Pelo, good idea also
[03:08] <Pelo> frank_bb it can be done  but it should be a last resort
[03:09] <strong007> why am i getting this error.. after genkernel.. mkdir: cannot create directory `grub.conf': No such file or directory
[03:09] <strong007> * GRUB: Definition found, not duplicating.
[03:09] <frank_bb> Pelo, ok, thank you
[03:09] <Mr_Giraffe> clearzen, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15305/
[03:09] <Mr_Giraffe> that's what happens now when i try to use gedit as root
[03:09] <xtknight> Mr_Giraffe, if gedit doesnt come up, the best solution ive found is to reboot.  it just happens for some reason
[03:09] <strong007> sorry.. wrong window
[03:09] <Mr_Giraffe> no, it does come up
[03:10] <Pelo> strong007,  you could try asking in #grub
[03:10] <xtknight> ok then you can ignore that error
[03:10] <strong007> Pelo, thanks..
[03:10] <Adsum> a quick question (i hope): when not running gnome as windows manager how do i set the theme for gnome programs? So far i found gnome-theme-manager but then i get a gui too... just want to do it from commandline with no input from user
[03:11] <Pelo> Adsum,  edit gconf manualy
[03:11] <xtknight> Adsum, maybe it's in gconf but it could be more complicated, like having to call a function to update all the windows
[03:11] <touched> anyone using an ipod nano with dapper?
[03:11] <clearzen> Mr_Giraffe: try to su - with the dash to root and see if you get the same message
[03:12] <Adsum> when im using gnome via regular login i get the human gnome-theme but when running pekwm i dont get it... so me thinks it isn't gconf
[03:12] <clearzen> Mr_Giraffe: when you open gedit
[03:12] <Mr_Giraffe> now it's saying "can't open display"
[03:12] <touched> actually any ipod for that matter.  I'm looking for a music player that can synchronize it's playlists to an ipod
[03:13] <Mr_Giraffe> same with gdmsetup...
[03:13] <clearzen> Mr_Giraffe: Does it hang or does it open after the warning?
[03:13] <Mr_Giraffe> hangs
[03:13] <Mr_Giraffe> actually, it just quits
[03:13] <Mr_Giraffe> and takes me back to the command line
[03:13] <clearzen> Mr_Giraffe: when did it start doing this to you?
[03:14] <Mr_Giraffe> within 2 days ago
[03:14] <Adsum> xtknight: you have any other idea what it might be?
[03:14] <TaZCorp> hello
[03:14] <TaZCorp> sethk, :D
[03:14] <regress> I have a slightly different question, but thought here would be a good place to ask - what tools would you recommend for making a script that will pull down a series of webpages, run regular expressions on them, and then output that to a text file?
[03:14] <clearzen> Mr_Giraffe: Do you remember what you where doing when it started to give you that error?
[03:14] <regress> should I use shell scripting and wget, or make a python applet, or what?
[03:14] <bruenig> regress, wget, sed awk and grep maybe
[03:15] <regress> hmm, interesting
[03:15] <xtknight> Adsum, dont know what pekwm is?
[03:15] <xtknight> i dont*
[03:15] <Adsum> regress: i recommend whatever your most comfortable with
[03:15] <Mr_Giraffe> i was trying to add a custom font iirc
[03:15] <xtknight> regress, bash will do it
[03:15] <Adsum> xtknight: its a *box wm
[03:15] <Frogzoo> regress: perl or bash
[03:15] <chuckielol> anyone know of a up to date linux sys_call list ?
[03:15] <regress> haha, I'm not terribly comfortable with any of them, just looking for a simple way out :)
[03:15] <Drk_Avenger> Hy
[03:15] <bruenig> regress, I would be happy to assist as I am terribly bored at the moment
[03:15] <tommy1987> I have a char array, how do I correctly assign some data to it? I had this blah = "TEST"; which was wrong
[03:16] <regress> hmm, sounds like bash should be up to it
[03:16] <IRONCOW_> How do I do a full upgrade to feisty fawn?
[03:16] <Drk_Avenger> I have a little problem when installing
[03:16] <regress> bruenig: actually that's why I'm doing it too, helping a friend and I have a bit of spare time, which I don't like
[03:16] <IRONCOW_> Apparently that's what everyone's running now
[03:16] <regress> I'll man the commands you gave me
[03:16] <bruenig> tommy1987, that should work
[03:16] <Mr_Giraffe> clearzen, i'm gonna try making a new user and see if that owrks
[03:16] <Mr_Giraffe> works**
[03:16] <Drk_Avenger> Hy
[03:16] <bruenig> tommy1987, to call blah later you have to do it with $blah though
[03:16] <Pelo> !update | IRONCOW
[03:16] <ubotu> IRONCOW: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:17] <IRONCOW_> thanks
[03:17] <kaje1> How do I change runlevels in 6.10? I did sudo init 3 and it didn't do anything
[03:17] <tommy1987> sorry im speaking C language, i posted in wrong forum but If you know then Ill happily hear it
[03:17] <Pelo> IRONCOW,   you'll blame me later
[03:17] <tommy1987> sorry replace forum for channel ;-)
[03:17] <bruenig> tommy1987, so you are asking a c question or bash
[03:18] <Adsum> tommy1987: char[4]  blah = "TEST" should work... but then you just get 4 characters
[03:18] <carlo117> can anyone tell me how to set my wireless config to automatically retreive the key?
[03:18] <bruenig> tommy1987, to assign a character array in c, it would be blah[5]  = test
[03:18] <Drk_Avenger> Hy
[03:18] <carlo117> IM me if u can help plz
[03:18] <Drk_Avenger> Hy!!!!!!!!
[03:18] <bruenig> Adsum, what about null
[03:18] <Adsum> bruenig: sorry, my misstake
[03:19] <bruenig> I missed my "'s so I guess my fault too
[03:19] <Adsum> bruenig: no wait... 0t 1e 2s 3t = 4
[03:19] <DrCurl> hi
[03:19] <Adsum> bruenig: wouldn't that be right... i suck at c :P
[03:19] <DrCurl> I just install network manager gnome on edgy
[03:19] <kaje1> anyone? changing runlevels? sudo init 3 didn't work...
[03:20] <Cosmo_> I am trying to start up kvpnc but it keeps giving me a error message of "Command 'su-to-root -X -c /usr/bin/kvpnc ' not found." any idea how to fix this?
[03:20] <DrCurl> it doesn't work, nm-applet says: The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue.
[03:20] <bruenig> Adsum, it is confusing, if you assign it by character, you start at zero so blah[0]  = 't' but when you do the whole thing at once you have to include the null character in the count
[03:20] <Pelo> DrCurl,   look up the error msg in the forum
[03:21] <jair> !wireless
[03:21] <DrCurl> Pelo, ok
[03:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:21] <jsowers> Have a basic question about reformatting a drive.
[03:21] <rai7> hello
[03:21] <Pelo> jsowers,  and what is this basic question ?
[03:21] <jsowers> I'm ready to blow away XP :-)   which resides on my c: drive (Ubutu is on my F: drive)
[03:21] <jsowers> C: is NTFS
[03:22] <jsowers> Gparted sees it, but I can't figure out how to reformat it.  Gparted doesn't seem to allow it.
[03:22] <bruenig> jsowers, do sudo fdisk -l and find out the /dev names
[03:22] <jsowers> I want to reformat fresh as Fat32.
[03:22] <Pelo> jsowers,  just use gparted,  delete the nfts partition , then add a new lable.  then a new partition
[03:22] <jsowers> did that
[03:22] <Adsum> jsowers: why fat32?
[03:22] <Pelo> then   edit > apply
[03:23] <vittico> hello guys!
[03:23] <jsowers> delete is grayed out.
[03:23] <SuperTeece> is thi a good channel for edgy server questions?
[03:23] <jsowers> fat32 so I can still read on Mac/Windoze if nec.
[03:23] <vittico> is there any ubuntu-server channel? i tried looking at the server list, but or i missed it or it doesn't exist
[03:24] <bruenig> jsowers, you need to unmount it if it is mounted
[03:24] <Pelo> jsowers,  unmout it ,  then delete,  then apply, then add new lable then new partition the apply again
[03:24] <SuperTeece> vittico that is what I was looking for as well
[03:24] <Adsum> jsowers: oh ok
[03:24] <bruenig> vittico, doesn't exist
[03:24] <vittico> where is the best place to discuss some ideas regarding server? :)
[03:24] <bruenig> vittico, here I guess
[03:24] <jsowers> ah. need to unmount before deleting.  Thanks
[03:24] <jsowers> I
[03:24] <jsowers> I'm a newbie
[03:24] <Drk_Guy01> Hy
[03:25] <IRONCOW> LOL Pelo - I won't blame anyone
[03:25] <vittico> is there any place where i can see if there is some agenda on features planned for server?
[03:25] <IRONCOW> I'm not even running 100% ubuntu
[03:25] <rai7> does anyone know another bittorrent client like azureus? Right now its giving me some serious problems
[03:25] <Adsum> jsowers: there should be a message or something about that, i hade alot of problem with that once too...
[03:25] <VSpike> rai7: ktorrent
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> rai7, there's bittorrent and Ktorrent
[03:25] <biff_> deluge is a good bittorrent client
[03:25] <bruenig> rai7, utorrent is like azureus, better though
[03:25] <bruenig> deluge is a little underfeatured imo
[03:25] <rai7> i used to use utorrent
[03:25] <IRONCOW> I'm running ta pioneer linux
[03:25] <vittico> for example, i understand that ubuntu wants server to be as easy to set-up manage and configure as desktop is
[03:25] <rai7> i thought utorrent was windows only?
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> rai7, if you use google, you've find a ton of instructions also, on setting up utorrent with wine... its easy
[03:26] <chrismhampson> i've just completed a partial upgrade which removed beagle-backend-evolution...should this have happened? When I reinstall it it seems to break beagle.
[03:26] <Pelo> rai7,  utorrent works well on wine
[03:26] <bruenig> !wine | rai7
[03:26] <ubotu> rai7: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> rai7, setting up utorrent with wine is easy
[03:26] <IRONCOW> I'm missing a gpg key I think
[03:26] <jsowers> no luck.  unmounting does not enable "delete" on the gparted menu.
[03:26] <jair> hello guys, I am using an IBM T42p laptop and it does not shows me the wireless led on? but the bluetooth is
[03:26] <jair> I am basically trying to configure my wireless
[03:26] <bruenig> !wifi
[03:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
 does anyone know another bittorrent client like azureus? Right now its giving me some serious problems <== I quite like rtorrent, but it's CLI only.
[03:26] <rai7> oh thanks guys- I never thought to run utorrent
[03:27] <vittico> i am a sysadmin, mostly debian and sles, i would really like to switch to ubuntu, so i wanted to participate discussing it and seing what ideas aor plans you already have
[03:27] <Pelo> aright,  I've had enouigh of computers for today, g'night folks
[03:27] <VSpike> got a small problem.  Postfix seems to be using /var/spool/<user> as a maildir, but both courier-imap and dovecot seem to use ~/Maildir
[03:27] <jair> bruenig: I am right on that page and that is why I came back here
[03:27] <dimas__> pelo sudo modprobe gspca? i did install th drive already
[03:27] <VSpike> How can I make them agree?
[03:27] <jsowers> g'night.
[03:28] <jair> bruenig: how can i find out what wifi hardware I have ? I am running the kernel 2.6.15-28-686
[03:28] <Jeeves_Moss> can someone give me a hand with the syntax for mounting a remote drive in shell?
[03:28] <IRONCOW> LOL
[03:28] <IRONCOW> I just did apt-get upgrade
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> rai7, are you using Ubuntu edgy?
[03:28] <jair> anyone here have ever configure the wireless card from scratch on ubuntu Dapper?
[03:29] <denys> hey, how do i connect to a wireless network that is not broadcasting (if i have the SSID and the password)
[03:29] <Bicchi> I am trying to install a plugin on eclipse. Should I run eclipse as root in order to be able to install the plugin?
[03:29] <shawn34> im looking for some hard stats on the differences of virus vulnerability between windows/linux
[03:29] <dimas__> pelo i did installed gspca and i dont know what is it i have to do in the terminal sudo modprobe gspca?
[03:29] <Lunar_Lamp> jair, first step is to find out what your wireless card chipset is :-) "lspci" will give you information about all your pci devices.
[03:29] <shawn34> anyone know of a good site?
[03:29] <jair> Lunar_Lamp: nice
[03:29] <jair> Lunar_Lamp: ok i will do that right now
[03:29] <Jeeves_Moss> lunar_lamp:  can you give me hand with that syntax for mounting a remote?
[03:30] <bruenig> !virus | shawn34
[03:30] <ubotu> shawn34: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> shawn34, the differences are nigh and day,
[03:30] <Lunar_Lamp> Jeeves_Moss, remote what?
[03:30] <bruenig> shawn34, stats are hard to come by, but you can see the technical differences that allows for the lower amount of linux viruses
[03:30] <IRONCOW> lot of KDE updates here
[03:30] <shawn34> IndyGunFreak, i know, but i've been arguing with someone from work about it and im looking for some stats to back it up
[03:30] <shawn34> ol
[03:30] <Jeeves_Moss> lunar_lamp:  I'm trying to connect to a M$ share from a shell.  the problem is that I can't remember the syntax to use for the user/pass
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> shawn34, don't blow a bloodvessel about it.
[03:30] <bruenig> shawn34, he doesn't understand theory?
[03:31] <shawn34> no
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> just don't wory about it, if he's that ignorant, you won't convince him
[03:31] <Lunar_Lamp> Jeeves_Moss, samba?
[03:31] <jair> Lunar_Lamp: 0000:02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[03:31] <Jeeves_Moss> Lunar_lamp:  yes, Samba is installed
[03:31] <dimas__> is hair still around?
[03:31] <jair> Lunar_Lamp: that is my card ;)
[03:31] <Lunar_Lamp> jair, ok, you need to google for "ar5212" and how to get it working in ubuntu :-)
[03:31] <jair> Lunar_Lamp: now I should be able to find the instructions on the ubuntu page :)
[03:31] <shawn34> IndyGunFreak, he has been telling me how naive i am for not having antivirus
[03:31] <jair> Lunar_Lamp: all right good
[03:32] <shawn34> its seriously pissing me off
[03:32] <rai7> I have a quick stupid question- will Ktorrent work if im using gnome? err.. will anything 'K' work?
[03:32] <jair> I am using the latest kernel though of ubuntu
[03:32] <Derek_Russo> Hey, I'm having a strange problem with gxine where the monitor keeps shutting off while I'm watching a dvd.  I checked all my power settings and it seems like I have monitor turnoff disabeled
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> shawn34, on a windows PC, yes... he's clearly clueless about Linux, so i wouldn't worry about it.
[03:32] <Jeeves_Moss> lunar_lamp:  ideas?
[03:32] <Lunar_Lamp> Jeeves_Moss, I'm afraid I've never mounted a samba share fro mthe command line; only through gnome.
[03:32] <bruenig> shawn34, explain permissions, that should be enough, if he doesn't get that, it really isn't worth it
[03:32] <jair> I am running the kernel 2.6.15-28-686
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> rai7, yes, synaptic will handle any dependency problems
[03:32] <Jeeves_Moss> lunar_lamp:  thanks anyways.
[03:32] <Lunar_Lamp> Jeeves_Moss,  http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Filesystems/Mounting_smbfs_Shares_Permanently.html
[03:33] <VSpike> rai7: you can run kde apps in gnome, you'll just end up installing a load of kde dependencies the first time
[03:34] <catid> has anyone tried using Anticipatory instead of CFQ I/O scheduling on their desktop lately?
[03:34] <kaje1> Does anyone know how I can kill X and make it stay dead? I have a server that I don't need X running on 90% of the time...
[03:34] <bruenig> kaje1, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm should do it
[03:34] <kaje1> bruenig, and then reboot?
[03:35] <bruenig> kaje1, sure
[03:35] <ubuntu_user07> how can i install kde to try out on here? and will i be able to remove it if i so choose
[03:35] <bruenig> ubuntu_user07, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <pyrak> can someone point me to where i might tweak the settings for my touchpad?
[03:35] <bruenig> ubuntu_user07, you will be able to remove it, yes
[03:35] <ubuntu_user07> thanks i will try it now
[03:35] <jrib> ubuntu_user07: use aptitude so it will be easier to remove
[03:35] <bruenig> aptitude is no easier that apt-get
[03:35] <ubuntu_user07> so i would do sudo aptitude kubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <HorizonXP> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[03:35] <server_> i have one question....i have LAMP installed and working but when i go to add html files to my 'www' directory in filesystem it says i dont have permission
[03:35] <jrib> bruenig: apt-get's autoremove is unreliable and buggy
[03:36] <bruenig> HorizonXP, effectively none since autoremove
[03:36] <VSpike> Jeeves_Moss: from memory it's "smbmount //server/share /mount/point -o username=user"
[03:36] <Lunar_Lamp> ubuntu_user07, use "aptitude" not "apt-get" as it will make removing the files easier.
[03:36] <ubuntu_user07> so sudo aptitude kubuntu-desktop?
[03:36] <Lunar_Lamp> ubuntu_user07, "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[03:36] <pyrak> how do i adjust sensitivity of touchpad?
[03:36] <xtknight> Lunar_Lamp, removing the files easier? how ?
[03:36] <dk_ii> !scrollkeeper
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scrollkeeper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <ubuntu_user07> thanks will do that now
[03:37] <server_> how do i get root permissions
[03:37] <bruenig> !sudo | server_
[03:37] <ubotu> server_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, lol, much like everyone does with automatix.
[03:37] <dk_ii> anyone know whats scrollkeeper-update and why its using 100% CPU usage?
[03:37] <ubuntu_user07> and if i want to remove it just load into gnome and type sudo aptitude uninstall kubuntu-desktop?
[03:37] <Lunar_Lamp> xtknight, it keeps better track of dependancies, and removes dependancies of packages that are no longer needed. As kubuntu-desktop is a meta package, removing that with apt-get will do little/nothing.
[03:37] <jrib> bruenig: well it's conceivable he is using dapper which is a year old :)
[03:37] <bruenig> jrib, true
[03:37] <server_> k thanks
[03:37] <xtknight> Lunar_Lamp, ahh "sudo apt-get autoremove" will do that, AFAIK
[03:37] <corden> hello guys on what particular date Official Ubuntu Feisty be release? Tnx
[03:38] <xtknight> corden, april 19th
[03:38] <jrib> ubuntu_user07: sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop     to remove it
[03:38] <bruenig> corden, 19
[03:38] <ubuntu_user07> thanks jrib
[03:38] <ubuntu_user07> whats an easy way to install a 3d desktop?
[03:38] <corden> Thank you for the info
[03:38] <Lunar_Lamp> xtknight, hmm, I wasn't aware of autoremove in apt-get; but I've had other problems with apt-get dependancy resolution being inferior to aptitude previously, so I just like aptitude now :-)
[03:38] <bruenig> Lunar_Lamp, as I suspected
[03:38] <xtknight> Lunar_Lamp, i still dont think it will do anything to virtual pkgs though.  not sure
[03:39] <Lunar_Lamp> bruenig?
[03:39] <Sakabatou> !asus
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <ubuntu_user07> is beryl easier to install then xgl?
[03:40] <bruenig> Lunar_Lamp, this aptitude > apt-get stuff and then the "oh I didn't know that apt-get is fundamentally different then what I myself conceived of it as" is very common
[03:40] <Lunar_Lamp> ubuntu_user07, beryl and xgl are not "one or the other". XGL or AIXGL provide functionality that compiz or beryl exploit.
[03:40] <ubuntu_user07> is it difficult to install a 3d desktop?
[03:41] <xtknight> took me 3 lines on Kubuntu
[03:41] <xtknight> beryl wiki
[03:41] <Lunar_Lamp> bruenig, well, it's not a fundamental difference.  In my experience the dependancy resolution of aptitude has been better.  It also requires fewer keystrokes to type with tab-completion ;-)
[03:41] <Lunar_Lamp> ubuntu_user07, depends on your graphics card significantly.
[03:41] <ubuntu_user07> nvidia 5600 xt
[03:42] <bruenig> Lunar_Lamp, it also takes the options out of your hand, and dependency handling is a fundamental difference
[03:42] <ubuntu_user07> its a 128mb card will it be ok?
[03:42] <Lunar_Lamp> ubuntu_user07, well, nvidia instead of ati is a good 1st step in ease of install, however, I've  not used nvidia hardware much, so am not sure much.  128mb will be plenty; yhou don't need a powerful system really.
[03:42] <LM1> can anyone here help me
[03:42] <Lunar_Lamp> LM1, just ask :-)
[03:43] <Lunar_Lamp> bruenig, what does it take out the hand?
[03:43] <LM1> I can't seem to get ubuntu or any linux distro working on my AMD 690 chipset
[03:43] <LM1> locks up on the live cd
[03:43] <LM1> seems to dislike usb, and hard drive controllers
[03:43] <bruenig> Lunar_Lamp, let's say I don't want to remove dependencies on aptitude
[03:43] <xtknight> LM1, the USB and HD controllers in the north/south bridge?
[03:44] <LM1> both
[03:44] <xtknight> LM1, or are they third party?
[03:44] <LM1> oh
[03:44] <xtknight> e.g. nec USB or jmicron IDE
[03:44] <xtknight> they are AMD?
[03:44] <corden> Guys, on what folder/location the synaptic download the selected package? and also do synaptic delete it after the installation/update process finish
[03:44] <LM1> they are the amd 690 chipset... yes th
[03:44] <LM1> on the north and south bridge
[03:44] <bruenig> corden, /var/cache/apt/archives and no it doesn't
[03:44] <LM1> SB400 southbridge
[03:44] <xtknight> sudo apt-get autoclean
[03:44] <xtknight> will remove cache pkgs
[03:44] <corden> tnx bruenig
[03:44] <foug> does anyone use opera? i need help installing flash please
[03:44] <LM1> xp runs great
[03:45] <LM1> but I don't want XP
[03:45] <LM1> :C
[03:45] <server_> i need sudo command to make me root
[03:45] <instabin> I just upgraded 6.10 to 7.04 and when i try to run the restricted drivers manager it tells me to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-14-generic but i can not find that package any where in synaptic
[03:45] <catalyst_media> hey guys I'm wanting opera on ubuntu 7.4 Feisty Fawn do you guys know if Opera supports this version?
[03:46] <bruenig> server_, sudo -i sudo -s sudo su, your pick
[03:46] <bruenig> !feisty | catalyst_media
[03:46] <ubotu> catalyst_media: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:46] <corden> now i can save some space or transfer it to another ubuntu installation :D
[03:46] <LM1> is this kernel specific
[03:46] <Lunar_Lamp> LM1, well, it's a new chipset I believe, so support *may* be sketchy.
[03:46] <bruenig> corden, you don't want to transfer it to another installation unless that other installation is the same version, don't take edgy packages to feisty
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> catalyst_media, it should
[03:46] <Lunar_Lamp> LM1, you may want try some google investigating.
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> i have it and i tworks fine
[03:46] <Hirvinen> foug: Ubuntu wiki has instructions for installing the flash plugin. Then in Opera under Tools -> Preferences -> advanced -> content -> plugins or something like that, set the plugin search directory to include the firefox and mozilla plugin directories.
[03:46] <catalyst_media> yeah I have it right now, but I would liek to know if Opera works on it though :)
[03:47] <LM1> what should I search for
[03:47] <catalyst_media> oh thanks indygunfreak
[03:47] <bitmess> Is there a way to make Automatix run on Feisty?
[03:47] <bruenig> Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:47] <Lunar_Lamp> catalyst_media, just try installing it via synaptic/aptitude
[03:47] <foug> Hirvinen: i'm there, having trouble installing motif
[03:47] <bruenig> !automatix | bitmess
[03:47] <ubotu> bitmess: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:47] <instabin> anyone know what i should do ?
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> bitmess, yes
[03:47] <LM1> ugg
[03:47] <riffic> a bit of a problem with feisty beta and usb mice.. they're locking up for some weird reason
[03:48] <LM1> I feel so dirty using windows xp as my primary OS
[03:48] <server_> i use the sudo command but when i go to drag and drop my index.htm file into my /var/www folder it says i have no permissions
[03:48] <Harpette> foug: there's an ##opera channel here
[03:48] <catalyst_media> synaptic doesn't have it
[03:48] <LM1> like I want to sit in the shower and
[03:48] <LM1> scrub myself
[03:48] <LM1> anyone else get that?
[03:48] <bruenig> bitmess, there really is no reason to. Even excepting the issues of system breakage, feisty has been made to auto detect codecs and install
[03:48] <Infinity__> My friend just downloaded the latest Fiesty Update and now is unable to boot back into ubuntu. The update changed something with his kernal... Is there any way he can salvage his system?
[03:48] <instabin> catalyst_media where do i get it?
[03:48] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, lol, you really crack me up with this system breakage thing
[03:48] <bruenig> !feisty | Infinity__
[03:48] <ubotu> Infinity__: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:48] <catalyst_media> I use mware for linux so my  usb mouse is working but I don't think thats an option for you
[03:48] <curbspaget> hello
[03:48] <Sakabatou> !update
[03:48] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:48] <catalyst_media> instabin where do you get what
[03:48] <Infinity__> ty
[03:49] <slicslak> i need to test an email account.  could someone, anyone, everyone, email: test@qhp.ca   thanks!
[03:49] <catalyst_media> the beta?
[03:49] <bitmess> bruenig, I'm having issues playing DVDs
[03:49] <bruenig> !dvd | bitmess
[03:49] <ubotu> bitmess: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:49] <kneeki|afk> Hey all =)
[03:49] <instabin> catalyst_media I just upgraded 6.10 to 7.04 and when i try to run the restricted drivers manager it tells me to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-14-generic but i can not find that package any where in synaptic
[03:49] <catalyst_media> If you mean the beta I just google ubuntu feisty fawn beta download
[03:49] <dimas__> i had a "genius webcam" intalled on my PC but i did buy another one "creative live vista"...i had try to install the drivers spca5xx, vo51X, gspca, and still recognize the genious cam but not the creative...keep saying "could not connect to the video device" what should i do?
[03:49] <curbspaget> I have a quick question
[03:49] <catalyst_media> oh I see
[03:49] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, as much as I think some people's system breaking is funny too, generally it isn't not too funny especially when they don't know the risk
[03:49] <server_>  use the sudo command but when i go to drag and drop my index.htm file into my /var/www folder it says i have no permissions
[03:49] <bruenig> s/not//
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, the thing is, i don't think it happens.
[03:50] <curbspaget> how does one know what distribution to download?
[03:50] <ubuntu_user07> can i open another terminal to install gcc since i want to do c++ schoolwork at home
[03:50] <freeza> if you want w32codecs and libdvdcss2 you can always download automatix2, it also has the msttcorefonts
[03:50] <instabin> catalyst_media thought you where awnsering me when you said about synaptic
[03:50] <bruenig> server_, drag and drop?
[03:50] <hendrixski> bruenig: Ubotu suggests we use illegal software?? isn't libdvdcss illegal?
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> i think people that "break" their systems, are probably idiots, and its just easy to blame automati
[03:50] <bruenig> !automatix | freeza
[03:50] <ubotu> freeza: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:50] <catalyst_media> instabin I did not use synaptic at all on mine my vmware just worked but i have VMware workstation 6. It's in beta so maybe the vmware tools in workstation 6 make it work?
[03:50] <bruenig> hendrixski, it is illegal in certain areas
[03:50] <kneeki|afk> Can anyone point me to a tutorial showing me how to enable Direct Rendering on my ATI 1600 hard? This is driving me nuts =(
[03:50] <server_> when i copy my index.htm file into the /var/www folder says i have no permissions
[03:50] <Hirvinen> foug: How did you install Opera and what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[03:50] <Lunar_Lamp> Is there a program/script that will fix audiofiles with the wrong length in them?  e.g. a 5min ogg file coming up as 50 seconds.
[03:50] <foug> Hirvinen: the latest, and i instaled it from their site
[03:50] <foug> Hirvinen: i think i just installed motif
[03:50] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski, the legality of libdvdcss depends on where you live :-)
[03:50] <instabin> duno maybe its a messy upgrade
[03:50] <server_> and i used the sudo commands
[03:50] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, it happens, have you ever used aptitude or apt-get and had a situation where 3-4 options are given to you because of conflicts?
[03:50] <hendrixski> bruenig: which areas is it legal in?
[03:51] <instabin> think im going to format
[03:51] <bruenig> hendrixski, I don't know them all
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, actually, no
[03:51] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, ok well find a package that conflicts with another and then try to install it
[03:51] <hendrixski> Lunar_Lamp: do you know where it's legal?
[03:51] <catalyst_media> instabin try getting the vmware 6 beta! it's free download right now!
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> now why would i do that intentionally?
[03:51] <curbspaget> How do you know which disto to download?
[03:51] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski, not really, no.  I use it in the UK, but am unsure if it's technically legal or not.
[03:52] <server_> when i copy my index.htm file into the /var/www folder it says i have nbo permissions after using the sudo command
[03:52] <Asplode> I like to interpret the law to allow the most liberty for citizens.  The Sony v Betamax case set a precedent for fair use and backup.  The Digital Millenium Copyright Act makes it a no-no to circumvent encryption, but you have to circument encryption to make a backup...
[03:52] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski,  I know it's illegal in the USA, but legal in other european countries.
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, i hardly use automatix anymore, probably won't install it with Feisty, but i think the whole "breaking systems" thing is blown WAY out of proportion
[03:52] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, it will give you 3-4 options on how to go, either not installing anything, or installing somethings and not others, they can go on for a long time, Automatix without telling you forces the first option which is not always what you want and since it suppresses everything, good luck trying to find out what happened
[03:52] <regress> is ctrl+z the correct way to exit man?
[03:52] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, it fundamentally is flawed, the design alone opens it up for that
[03:52] <dimas__> where the guy with the long hair went?
[03:53] <server_> when i copy my index.htm file into the /var/www folder it says i have nbo permissions after using the sudo command
[03:53] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i guss my experience of 5 different installs, all with automatix, and not a single problem, is in the minority
[03:53] <hendrixski> Lunar_Lamp: bruenig: does its questionable legality come from patent infringement or from laws like DMCA in the US of DADVSI in France?
[03:53] <bruenig> hendrixski, probably patent
[03:53] <server_> when i copy my index.htm file into the /var/www folder it says i have nbo permissions after using the sudo command
[03:53] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski, dmca laws that make it illegal to circumvent copyright protection things :-)
[03:54] <dimas__> bruenig
[03:54] <dimas__> i need some help please
[03:54] <hendrixski> I guess I'll read up about which one it is....
[03:54] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski, technically, libdvdcss is circumventing copyright measures as the dvd is encrypted and you have to decrypt to play it (on any device)
[03:54] <wastrel> regress:  q should work
[03:54] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, that is no different than me going, I installed windows on 5 different computers and turned off the firewall and didn't install anti-virus and none of them got infected, ergo windows has no virus problem
[03:54] <regress> ah, that's easier
[03:54] <wastrel> regress:  ctrl-z doesn't exit it, it backgrounds the process
[03:55] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, you're making a completely unrealistic comparison and you know it.
[03:55] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski, I'm unaware of any patent infringement problems.
[03:55] <regress> haha, I thought it was strange
[03:55] <ubuntu_user07> how can i change the way java displays if i launch an applet. a site i like has a problem of a large grey bar saying java applet on top of the window and text i type is large compared to the actual chat box
[03:55] <regress> q work well, tahnks
[03:55] <wastrel> regress:  (meaning the man page is still open, just suspended and you have your terminal back)
[03:55] <hendrixski> Lunar_Lamp: ah.  I guess there are fewer countries where breaking copryight protestcion is illegal than countries where it's illegal to break patents
[03:56] <qebab> I'll try my luck again: Does anyone know how to get rid of the HTTP Cache Cleaner that constantly pops up on my taskbar?
[03:56] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, your logic is flawed. I can show windows and automatix to be fundamentally flawed such that it opens it up for failure. You can say in your experience it didn't happen, but that doesn't address the theoretical issues. Either address the theoretical issues or you really aren't doing anything more than my windows analogy.
[03:56] <regress> that's cool, how can you get it to come back up once it's sent to the background
[03:56] <wastrel> regress:  ctrl-z is, however my preferred method of quitting emacs (whenever i'm bored/dumb enough to open it :)
[03:56] <ceeg> what do I do if sudo broke over SSH?
[03:56] <deCon> anyone know how to edit the "Places" menu?
[03:56] <bianconeri> Hello I need some help on wireless
[03:56] <hendrixski> Lunar_Lamp: bruenig:  There area few legal DVD programs though, right?  I think Linspire comes with one.
[03:56] <wastrel> qebab:  i think that's a kde thing (?)
[03:56] <hendrixski> bianconeri: what's your current wireless situation?
[03:56] <bruenig> hendrixski, linspire pays for it I think, I know some of them have
[03:56] <alex_> what are you trying to edit
[03:56] <alex_> i mean how?
[03:57] <qebab> yeah, I searched it at ubuntuforums, and tried the method to get rid of it, which didn't work ):
[03:57] <qebab> I think it's caused by AmaroK updating my last.fm page
[03:57] <wastrel> qebab:  maybe the good folks on #kubuntu know something ?
[03:57] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski, last I checked ( a couple of months ago) for the end user there wasn't anything *yet* though there was a company, (fluendo?) planning on providing a paid player.
[03:57] <Derek_Russo> Hi everyone, I have kind of a strange problem.  While I'm watching movies with gxine, the movie keeps going blcak for a second and then coming back
[03:57] <qebab> I'll try that, thank you
[03:57] <alex_> system/prefrences/menues and toolbars
[03:57] <popo> hola
[03:58] <kneeki|afk> I hate Mesa SO much
[03:58] <kneeki|afk> I cannot figure out how to get Direct Rendering working =\
[03:58] <xtknight> !ask
[03:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:58] <dimas__> bruenig<<to i had install "genious webcam" but cause it wasnt working good i did change it for "creative live vista" i did install all source of drivers spca5xx, gspca, vo51x and the PC recognize the genious webcam but not the other one what sould i do? it saids "could not get connection to device"
[03:58] <xtknight> elaborate
[03:58] <hendrixski> Lunar_Lamp: Cool.  I'll look for fluendo... I'm interested to see how much media stuff can be done on linux without breaking the law
[03:58] <chocobo_> how do u execute a shell script?
[03:58] <JebJoya> hey, I'm having some issues installing my wireless card, have a Linksys card with BCM4303 802.11b chipset, running Edgy Eft, followed instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy to no avail (specifically 1.3.1.1 since I have no internet on linux but do on WinXP)
[03:58] <bruenig> dimas__, I don't know webcam
[03:58] <JebJoya> Anyone got any ideas?
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, you said it yourself...  dictionary.com   "theoretical"- 1.	of, pertaining to, or consisting in theory; not practical (distinguished from applied).
[03:59] <alex_> decon.... u get it
[03:59] <kneeki> Well, I've tried using the ATI drivers from the site, didn't work. Tried using the Ubuntu drivers, still not working
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> 2.	existing only in theory; hypothetical.
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> 3.	given to, forming, or dealing with theories; speculative.
[03:59] <bruenig> chocobo_, make sure it is executable with: chmod +x scriptname, and then run it with ./scriptname
[03:59] <kneeki> fglrxinfo has yet to change from Mesa
[03:59] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, theory is something formed outside of application, see a priori
[03:59] <hendrixski> bianconeri: you needed wireless help?
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> uh huh
[03:59] <chocobo_> bruenig: thank you very much
[03:59] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, for instance, I can look at a script that says "rm -rf /" and without ever having applied it say that it theoretically is going to cause system breakage
[04:00] <deCon> alex_, yes, but the Places one doesn't show anymore
[04:00] <kneeki> also, glxinfo | grep rendering <- always says no under Direct rendering
[04:00] <deCon> alex_, should i revert
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, i'm sure you can...
[04:00] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, now I haven't applied that script, my conclusion is outside of application
[04:00] <dimas__> is there any webcam engenier around?
[04:00] <bruenig> that is how I am using theoretically in this sense
[04:00] <Derek_Russo> Could someone help me install kopete?
[04:00] <hendrixski> kneeki: I hate that too... where it's mesa forever... try different guides, I found that different ones work for different ATI cards
[04:00] <dimas__> any webcam hacker?
[04:00] <toddobryan> I'm stuck using Outlook Web Access at work and use Evolution to access it, but I'm getting really annoyed at its bugginess.
[04:00] <toddobryan> Is there anything else out there?
[04:00] <bianconeri> I got an HP 510 laptop, and there is a known problem with these that the touchpad doesnt work out of the box. I found a guide for kernel recompiling that should get it working http://hp500.xf.cz/us/Main.html and thankfully it did. However this guide will disable wireless...But i found on the ubuntu forum a fix that says to symbolically link the old kernel to the new kernel in /lib/firmware...but I don't have the new kernel in /lib/firmware
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> well, i theoretically think people who slam something w/o trying it are full ofit.
[04:01] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, will you try my script
[04:01] <kneeki> hendrixski: I've tried about 6 different guides so far, from google, cedega, and ubuntu. Nothing has worked yet =\
[04:01] <IndyGunFreak> now why would i do that?
[04:01] <hendrixski> bianconeri: ouch... that's more than a wireless problem... that's a kernel question :-(
[04:01] <kneeki> Is there a type of remote desktop assistance from ubuntu? I doubt my luck would be so great. *shrugs*
[04:02] <hendrixski> kneeki: oh... umm.. :-( don't know what to tell you.  Everyone has had a hard time with it
[04:02] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15309/ don't say this will cause problems unless you have tried it
[04:02] <SysProbe> Does Ubuntu Server has a GUI like fedora ?
[04:02] <hendrixski> kneeki: have you tried EasyUbuntu?  I'm pretty sure it has an ATI install script
[04:02] <kneeki> hendrixski: ahh - dang =(
[04:02] <bianconeri> lol ya I know, but i figured that the solution was pretty simple on ubuntu forum
[04:02] <deCon> Anyone know how to edit the Places menu? The GUI for Menu layout isn't showing "Places"?!
[04:02] <JebJoya>  hey, I'm having some issues installing my wireless card, have a Linksys card with BCM4303 802.11b chipset, running Edgy Eft, followed instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy to no avail (specifically 1.3.1.1 since I have no internet on linux but do on WinXP).  Finally, iwconfig (i think it was) said that the nickname was a BCM4301 not a 4303 - any ideas?
[04:02] <kneeki> hendrixski: EasyUbuntu?  Im not su re, it does sound familiar. Do you have a link?
[04:02] <wastrel> !easyubuntu
[04:03] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[04:03] <kneeki> thanks!
[04:03] <hendrixski> bianconeri: I'm sure it is... I just thought it was simple like "help me find a wireless network" kind of easy  :-( I'm still kind of a newb
[04:03] <bianconeri> hendrixski: what do you suggest? Go to the Kernel room?:)
[04:03] <kneeki> HAH!
[04:03] <SysProbe> Anyone. Does Ubuntu have a GUI like Fedora ?
[04:03] <kneeki> I love the homepage of easyunbuntu
[04:03] <kneeki> Hilarious ;)
[04:04] <catid> JebJoya: you may have to use ndiswrapper
[04:04] <hendrixski> bianconeri: I have no idea
[04:04] <bianconeri> Iv been using linux for a year and half right now...but will always be a noob :D
[04:04] <milaks> Hi. I try to compile FLTK library but I get "configure: error: Configure could not find required X11 libraries" Can someone please tell me what do I need to install?
[04:04] <bruenig> SysProbe, it has a gui yes
[04:04] <frank_b> I've just installed a new SATA hard drive and want to use it as an extension of my home folder. what should I do next? how do I format it and make just one partition to use as a home folder extension?
[04:04] <hendrixski> kneeki: I don't know if it actually works, but it gets better reviews than automatix for some reason
[04:04] <wastrel> SysProbe:  ubuntu screenshots   http://ubuntuforums.org/g/index.php?c=1
[04:04] <SysProbe> bruenig....Does webmin also work with it ?
[04:04] <wastrel> SysProbe:  those are customized systems, the standard look is different
[04:04] <wastrel> !webmin  SysProbe
[04:05] <wastrel> !webmin | SysProbe
[04:05] <ubotu> SysProbe: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[04:05] <hendrixski> milaks: probably the x11 librarires it asks for..... try to copy and paste it into "apt-cache search" and when you get a hit then apt-get install it
[04:05] <hendrixski> milaks: and most of those compile errors have a google page
[04:05] <SysProbe> Thanks everyone
[04:05] <deCon> HELP! ...me change my Places menu so i can point it to docs instead of Documents!!
[04:05] <SysProbe> wastrel...thanks for link
[04:05] <ubuntu_user07> what should i pick as my postfix configuration ?
[04:05] <JebJoya> catid: I've had 3 wireless issues now on 3 separate PCs, my laptop I ended up swapping the wireless card with my parents, and my girlfriend's pc is still having issues, both of which i've been trying to use ndiswrapper - pain in the proverbial :)
[04:06] <milaks> hendrixski: yes but what exactly :) there is a lot x11proto*
[04:06] <harry_> what is the keyboard shortcut to open the system monitor
[04:06] <dead1ock> no
[04:06] <xtknight> harry_, ctrl alt DEL
[04:06] <catid> JebJoya: yes.. the state of linux wireless is not that great =(
[04:06] <JebJoya> :(
[04:06] <hendrixski> milaks: how concerned are you with diskspace?  you can install them all... aptitude will sort out the dependancies for you
[04:06] <ceeg> Okay. SUDO broke. The only way to change your login as root with su - is by using the root password. To SET the root password in ubuntu, you have to use SUDO. I am using SSH so i cant boot into recovery mode. What can I do?
[04:07] <xtknight> harry_, actually you have to make it CTRL alt DEL.  there was a command to do it on the forums.  i cant remember
[04:07] <JebJoya> catid: I'm sure that this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy is what i need to follow, but it didn't work...?
[04:07] <bianconeri> so anybody??  I got an HP 510 laptop, and there is a known problem with these that the touchpad doesnt work out of the box. I found a guide for kernel recompiling that should get it working http://hp500.xf.cz/us/Main.html and thankfully it did. However this guide will disable wireless...But i found on the ubuntu forum a fix that says to symbolically link the old kernel to the new kernel in /lib/firmware...but I don't have the new kernel in /lib/firmware
[04:07] <wastrel> ceeg:  you can't fix that remotely
[04:08] <wastrel> ceeg:  what's wrong with sudo?
[04:08] <regress> ceeg...it's like some weird riddle
[04:08] <catid> JebJoya: i've ordered a wireless card this week that should use that chipset..  but have no experience with it yet
[04:08] <JebJoya> *groan*
[04:08] <kneeki> hendrixski: Hmmmmm, it seems that I have the Ubuntu ATI driver, and the ATI driver (from they're site) both installed at once. I take it that's a bad sign yes?
[04:08] <ubuntu_user07> how can i change the size of the / partition from within ubuntu?
[04:08] <kneeki> <- new to 'nix
[04:08] <milaks> I try to compile FLTK library but I get "configure: error: Configure could not find required X11 libraries" Can someone please tell me what do I need to install?
[04:09] <bianconeri> ubuntu_user07 use gparted or qtparted
[04:09] <ubuntu_user07> if i resize /home will i lose any data?
[04:09] <Harpette> milaks: is that the only error msg you get?
[04:09] <ceeg> wastrel: i typed 'sudo vigr' and all of a sudden it stopped working.
[04:10] <bianconeri> how much data is on it?
[04:10] <thesheqq> can anybody recommend the best bittorrent client that supports filter RSS
[04:10] <milaks> Harpette: during configure, yes
[04:10] <Adsum> does anyone know what *** stack smashing detected *** means?
[04:10] <Harpette> milaks: you got the fltk lib source from the project's web site, right? don't they tell you what you need to build it?
[04:11] <craigbass1976> I need a volunteer.  Someone with edgy (updated) who is willing to open up a .csv file in OOCalc and tell me what they see in a particular column.
[04:11] <wastrel> i'll do it!
[04:11] <ubuntu_user07> i can't find gparted
[04:11] <milaks> Harpette: I'm sorry but I relly don't know what *else* should I install i order to build FLTK library
[04:12] <qebab> robb@robb-laptop:/usr/share/services$ sudo echo StartupNotify=false >> http_cache_cleaner.desktop
[04:12] <qebab> bash: http_cache_cleaner.desktop: Permission denied
[04:12] <Harpette> milaks: and what is that library?
[04:12] <qebab> does anyone have a good idea what to try next?
[04:12] <deCon> Can someone please help me fix my "Places" menu...i just need to edit something easy, but its not in the GUI under system-->pref-->menu layout
[04:12] <Sashi> a question
[04:12] <craigbass1976> wastrel, I'm trying to send it.  Is it coming?
[04:12] <kneeki> It seems that I have the Ubuntu ATI driver, and the ATI driver (from they're site) both installed at once. I take it that's a bad sign yes?
[04:12] <milaks> Harpette: fltk 2
[04:12] <Absum> stack smashing when trying to run conky! anyone?
[04:12] <Sashi> how can i make it so that sudo requires a pw?
[04:12] <zoohouse> I having problems accessing a webserver running on my box. I can access the page within the network (10.10.0.7) but when I try my external IP it doesn't work (Timeout on server). I have IP Passthrough on my DSL router, my broadband/wireless router is sending port 443 to the server, and the firewall it turned off with FireStarter. What else can be blocking my connection. I don't think that it is my ISP... Am I over looking something? I
[04:12] <zoohouse> am using SSL-Explorer
[04:12] <wastrel> craigbass1976:  it's stalled, are you identified w/ nickserv?
[04:12] <fiery_cleric> hello ... anyone here use youtube under ubuntu? ... i want to try to use some user agent magic to transfer the flash plugin present on youtube pages to the mplug mplayer plugin .... is this possible? (greasemonkey?)
[04:12] <ceeg> wastrel: is there a way to open a new terminal in ssh? is there any way i can get another instance of sudo or something?
[04:12] <qebab> I'm trying to make the HTTP Cache Cleaner stop littering my taskbar every hour
[04:12] <wastrel> ceeg:  try screen
[04:13] <craigbass1976> wastrel, brb
[04:13] <ceeg> wastrel: not installed on ubuntu-server. gotta sudo to install it :(
[04:13] <Harpette> Sashi: sudo does require a password
[04:13] <Sashi> no it doesnt
[04:13] <wastrel> ceeg:  what's sudo doing ?
[04:13] <LM1> I am so sad!  Please anyone.... I really wanna run feisty on my new dualcore.... but it locks up when booting from the livecd
[04:13] <eXcAliBuR> ssh to 207.134.9.193 username = root passowrd = bitch .... and fix muh email please :)
[04:13] <qebab> no one knows how to write to /usr/share/http_cache_cleaner.desktop?
[04:13] <LM1> :C
[04:13] <craigbass1976> wastrel, how about now?
[04:13] <chocobo_> What is a good compiler for compiling C++ on linux?
[04:13] <wastrel> craigbass1976:  stalled
[04:13] <ceeg> wastrel: absolutely nothing. ceeg@berith$: sudo apt-get install screen; ceeg@berith$:
[04:14] <Aemo> anyone good with GRUB?
[04:14] <Harpette> LM1: what about Edgy Eft?
[04:14] <zoohouse> chocobo_: gcc
[04:14] <chocobo_> zoohouse: is it command line?
[04:14] <Harpette> Aemo: shoot
[04:14] <fiery_cleric> cool if anyone is interested, http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2006/11/24/playing-youtube-videos-without-flash/ , finally i can stop using that evil closed source plugin :)
[04:14] <LM1> I've tried edgy and the latest knoppix
[04:14] <LM1> they all lock up :C
[04:14] <zoohouse> chocobo_: yup
[04:14] <qebab> no one?
[04:14] <chocobo_> zoohouse: easy to learn?
[04:14] <zoohouse> chocobo_: yup
[04:15] <deCon> please, someone....
[04:15] <deCon> menu help
[04:15] <Harpette> qebab: do a Google search for your file
[04:15] <zoohouse> chocobo_: if you want a IDE try Kdevelop
[04:15] <LM1> I was so excited about building this dual core... but now that I have to run xp it seems... crappy
[04:15] <cpare> good evening from Orlando, FL
[04:15] <chocobo_> zoohouse: can it compile java and python?
[04:15] <corden> And by the way, I successfully connect to the internet using my mobile phone without username and password just the dial-up # :)
[04:15] <deCon> lk1, i have my dual core and it rocks...whats wrong with yours
[04:15] <zoohouse> chocobo_: you mean Kdevelop?
[04:15] <chocobo_> zoohouse: no GCC?
[04:16] <zoohouse> chocobo_: no
[04:16] <LM1> the amd 690 chipset doesn't like the linux kernel
[04:16] <Aemo> harpette: i installed in this order, 1. 2003, 2:vista, 3. feisty beta. is it possible to have Vista and 2003 to show up in GRUB?
[04:16] <LM1> or something like that
[04:16] <qebab> Harpette: What I'm trying to do is something someone using ubuntuforums apparently made work
[04:16] <chocobo_> zoohouse: java?
[04:16] <zoohouse> chocobo_: you will need a a Java compiller
[04:16] <chocobo_> zoohouse: ooooo k well thank you
[04:16] <Harpette> Aemo: GRUB should've detected your other OSes
[04:16] <zoohouse> chocobo_: np
[04:17] <Cara_WCAM_MSN> OPERA is a much superior browser than Firefox, since Ubuntu is including closed-source into the distro, what the heck, why not include OPERA?
[04:17] <Harpette> Aemo: insrall grub-doc pkg and type "info grub". If you don't know how to use info first do a "info info". As always, "q" to exit.
[04:17] <xtknight> LM1, AMD is one of the best linux supporters
[04:17] <xtknight> LM1, give them some time.
[04:17] <DjViper> opera isnt free
[04:17] <cpare> Question - Is there a Kernel difference between Server and Workstation
[04:18] <Aemo> Harpette: in fact it did, but it goes to the vista chainloader(?) and then asks me to choose vista or 2003
[04:18] <Cara_WCAM_MSN> DjViper: free as in what...
[04:18] <cpare> I just got a news machine at work that has 4gb
[04:18] <xtknight> opera is $0, but not open source
[04:18] <Cara_WCAM_MSN> i know
[04:18] <cpare> and my peers are telling me workstation is only reading 3gb
[04:18] <Aemo> harpette: id rather have 2003, vista, ubuntu under one menu, grub
[04:18] <xtknight> why is opera much superior to firefox?
[04:18] <deCon> I need to command line or text edit my menu to  fix "Documents" to "docs", could someone please quickly help me
[04:18] <xtknight> i've tried it.  i liked it for a while but went back honestly i missed my adblock
[04:18] <Harpette> Aemo: that sounds completely normal to me, because both are installed in the same boot sector of the same partition.
[04:18] <Cara_WCAM_MSN> i am trying for a few days opera, and it's really faster and superior, now it's got a new feature, speed dial it's so cool
[04:18] <Harpette> Aemo: no can do
[04:19] <wastrel> ceeg:  tried connecting again via a diff ssh session?  tried /usr/bin/sudo   ?   i dunno out of ideas
[04:19] <Aemo> impossible?
[04:19] <Harpette> Aemo: let me rephrase that: not that i know of
[04:19] <xtknight> Cara_WCAM_MSN, unfortunately, i don't believe that they will ever make opera the default because: a) it is not open source, b) many people like firefoxs
[04:19] <Cara_WCAM_MSN> Opera speed dial is like a page that displays mini-pages, mostly frequented, you can add then, and they appear as thumbnail, so you just select them and go
[04:19] <Harpette> Aemo: once again, "info grub" has it all
[04:19] <xtknight> they have put opera in the commercial repository (Canonical).  so they are aware of it and everything
[04:20] <Ltar> is there a calculator panel app, similar to "dictionary lookup"? I want to have a field in my launch panel to enter math problems- there's far too much interface to "calculator" for it to be worth my while- why have buttons on my keyboard AND my monitor?
[04:20] <xtknight> gcalctool?  i have no idea what it is
[04:20] <frank_b> what's the best type of disklabel to use in a hard drive to use in ubuntu?
[04:20] <Harpette> LM1: perhaps you need to pass special kernel parameters for your HW. Search Google
[04:21] <server_> i still can't get root acess to be able to copy files into my filesystem
[04:21] <Aemo> im happy that ubuntu had my wifi card good to go "out of the box"
[04:21] <ceeg> wastrel: tried both. doesnt work. the program 'vigr' is the last program that worked.
[04:21] <Harpette> frank_b: DOS, like most everyone on a PC?
[04:21] <ceeg> wastrel: or the first program that made it stop working. its possible i may have corrupted /etc/group ?
[04:21] <frank_b> Harpette, ok, thanks
[04:22] <frank_b> Harpette, yes, I have an i386 machine
[04:22] <Aemo> harpette: another thing, you know how i can get my max resolution?  1920x1200
[04:22] <Harpette> frank_b: actually, i don't suppose Ubuntu is gonna care at all; but parted might, so you could look into what kind of disklabel parted "prefers"
[04:22] <xtknight> Aemo, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:22] <xtknight> Aemo, "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[04:22] <Harpette> Aemo: yep
[04:23] <cpare> Question - Is there a Kernel difference between Server and Workstation
[04:23] <wastrel> ceeg:  possible yes, which is needed for your sudo
[04:23] <frank_b> Harpette, ok, thanks
[04:23] <server_> can someone tell me how to get permissions to be able to copy files into my filesystem sudo doesnt seem to work
[04:23] <xtknight> server_, the /var/www question?
[04:23] <server_> yes
[04:23] <xtknight> server_, sudo chmod a+w /var/www
[04:23] <xtknight> server_, then copy from a user
[04:24] <server_> tyty
[04:24] <wastrel> ceeg:  groups  cmd must show you in admin in order for sudo to work for you (defaut ubuntu config)
[04:24] <flake> opengl logs me off of KDE/GDM
[04:24] <flake> how can i fix it
[04:24] <xtknight> flake, nvidia kernel problem
[04:24] <server_> OMG it worked
[04:24] <server_> thanks so much
[04:24] <xtknight> server_, to give user permanent ownership there, "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /var/www"
[04:24] <_goofy_> how do i keep a program from starting at login
[04:24] <kneeki> flake: i'm having trouble getting Direct Rendering to work also =(
[04:25] <xtknight> flake, nvidia Xorg and kernel driver conflict, i believe.  what kernel are you running?
[04:25] <server_> THANKS SO MUCH
[04:25] <flake> 2.6.17.11-generic
[04:25] <erpo> I need a receiver that works with gpsd. It should be cheap and it should connect via USB. Can anyone point me to a specific product that will definitely work perfectly?
[04:25] <Aemo> @xtknight, so i got that far, which do i edit?
[04:26] <xtknight> Aemo, 24-bit display right?  search for subsection display and Depth 24.  add a resolution there.
[04:26] <xtknight> Aemo, or under every Color Depth if you wish
[04:26] <xtknight> flake, reinstall the latest nvidia drivers or use restricted drivers
[04:26] <esac> running feisty on laptop with touchpad. if i click on a button sometimes that click will not 'register' until after i've moved my mouse. any ideas ?
[04:26] <flake> what was that easy script that can be ran?  I have it on my system, forgot the name
[04:27] <flake> but it auto-installs the nvidia driver
[04:27] <xtknight> !envy
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <kneeki> Is there a safe way to uninstall my ATI display drivers w/o killing my system (preferablly using the default after install drivers)
[04:27] <flake> right, thanks
[04:27] <esac> why is it that in xchat if i click on a link it does nothing, but if i right click on it and select 'open in browser' it works ?
[04:27] <xtknight> kneeki, gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <xtknight> kneeki, replace driver fglrx with ati
[04:28] <wastrel> kneeki:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:28] <wastrel> or that
[04:28] <kneeki> Well
[04:28] <ksnipa> Hey when  I try to upgrade to 7.04, using Update Manager I get the 404 error on the backports , anyone else getting this?
[04:28] <kneeki> here's what I did (I messed up bad I think)
[04:28] <kneeki> I installed ATI drivers from ATI website
[04:28] <wastrel> ksnipa:  i don't imagine backports exists yet because it's new
[04:28] <kneeki> then since direct rendering wasent working, i did a few tutorials
[04:29] <Madpilot> esac, that's one of xchat's quirks/known bugs. I've never found an explanation.
[04:29] <kneeki> as such, I did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just a few minutes ago
[04:29] <kneeki> Does that mean I'm no longer using my ATI drivers?
[04:29] <wastrel> !backports  | ksnipa
[04:29] <ubotu> ksnipa: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[04:29] <xtknight> kneeki, press ctrl alt backspace (force quit X) to restart X
[04:30] <wastrel> kneeki:  if you chose something other than fglrx, then yes.  but you need to re-start X for that change to take effect.
[04:30] <xtknight> then you will be on 'ati' not 'fglrx'
[04:30] <kneeki> Hmm, ok
[04:30] <kneeki> But, I did choose fglrx, should I do the command again?
[04:30] <_goofy_> how do i keep a program from starting at login
[04:30] <kneeki> and choose ATI instead of fglrx?
[04:31] <cpare> kneeki - you doing geryl?
[04:31] <cpare> beryl?
[04:31] <cpare> sorry
[04:31] <kneeki> cpare: No idea what that is =(
[04:31] <kneeki> I'm new to linux
[04:31] <kneeki> Running Ubuntu atm
[04:31] <kneeki> if that matters
[04:31] <cpare> beryl is a graphical add-on to gnome
[04:32] <kneeki> Oh
[04:32] <Talaman72> linux rocks
[04:32] <kneeki> No idea then. How do I check?
[04:32] <Talaman72> and my xchat kicks butt too
[04:32] <cpare> if you dont know what it is, your not
[04:32] <kneeki> lol, fair enough =
[04:32] <kneeki> =)
[04:32] <cpare> most go after it
[04:32] <kneeki> Oh, wow. I just googled it
[04:32] <kneeki> That's PURDY!
[04:32] <cpare> as it adds a lot of bling to your desktop
[04:33] <kneeki> If only my OpenGL was working =P
[04:33] <stone-unix> warning : 4-13update crashed my 2.6.20-14-generic bootup
[04:33] <cpare> thats why I thought you were after the openGL
[04:33] <qfour20> iwconfig tells me that my wireless nic is using 11Mb rate, how do I set that to 54?
[04:33] <stone-unix> have to switch to 2.6.20-13 to boot
[04:33] <fiery_cleric> onething that really annoys me.... how do i search for a '-' sign in man pages under ubuntu ... ie i want to search for an argument like -l or -vc etc.... ?
[04:33] <Alonea> anyone know why I can't access my audio tab on winecfg? it locks up.
[04:33] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:   /-<enter>
[04:34] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: doesnt work
[04:34] <kneeki> cpare: Oh, nah. I'm trying to get my 'nix install to run games on Cedega. I would love to use Beryl eventually, but after I get games going first.
[04:34] <wastrel> firephoto:  then n
[04:34] <stone-unix>  warning : 4-13update crashed my 2.6.20-14-generic bootup , have to switch to 2.6.20-13 to boot
[04:34] <Aemo> @xtknight, alright should it look like this?
[04:34] <Aemo>     SubSection     "Display"
[04:34] <Aemo>         Depth       24
[04:34] <Aemo>         Modes      "1920x1200" "1280x720" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[04:34] <kneeki> I'm trying to make a switch from windows to another OS, because I am very unsatasfied with Vista =\
[04:34] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:  it should... if it doesn't try  /\-
[04:34] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: i tried that to the escaping of it doesnt work
[04:34] <fiery_cleric> it works under other distros
[04:34] <xtknight> Aemo, yes
[04:35] <kneeki> However, I have Cedega working fine - but all my games run like ass because I have no direct rendering atm
[04:35] <qfour20> kneeki: congratulations
[04:35] <cpare> kneeki - gotcha
[04:35] <stone-unix> kneeki: congrats, you get to the right place
[04:35] <xtknight> Aemo, save and reboot X
[04:35] <kneeki> lol, thanks guys
[04:35] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:  it works for me in edgy...
[04:35] <xtknight> lol wow
[04:35] <xtknight> kneeki, what did you do?
[04:35] <xtknight> ;P
[04:35] <xtknight> cure cancer?
[04:35] <frank_b> is there still a limit for primary partitions in modern hard drives?
[04:35] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:  are you using a weird character set or LANG ?
[04:35] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: ah ok i am on dapper
[04:35] <Aemo> alright, so logging out doesnt cut it right?
[04:35] <xtknight> Aemo, yeah thatll do it
[04:35] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: i think just C
[04:35] <kneeki> lol
[04:35] <Frogzoo> anyone else notice on edgy openoffice spreadsheet won't open anymore?
[04:36] <cpare> frank_b - I dont think so - I just setup my new machine today with a 250gb partition
[04:36] <kneeki> xtknight: nothing, I just am forced to use Vista at work (for tech support reasons) and after using it, it drives me nuts
[04:36] <cpare> on an LVM
[04:36] <wastrel> Frogzoo:  works for me i just did it
[04:36] <w3ccv> WIFI-Relay Question:  The /etc/wifi-relay.conf file contains the [SSID]  for each 'network'. Is there a way to have a [UserGeneratedNickname]  for a section with the ssid specified in that section. I've run into a couple networks that use the same *dumb* name of "wireless" and I need to keep them straight.
[04:36] <frank_b> cpare, ok, thanks
[04:36] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:  ah!
[04:36] <cpare> np
[04:36] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:  change your default pager to less instead of more
[04:37] <kneeki> Atm, I'm u sing that EasyUbuntu to download a bunch of things. It unfortunatly has my checkbox for Install ATI drivers... greyed out, because I have some installed already =\
[04:37] <Aemo> xtknight: oh because i just did that, and then when i goto system>preferences>Screen Resolution and nothing new showed up
[04:37] <xtknight> Aemo, need to logout
[04:37] <kneeki> So, once this is done downloading, I can try to uninstall the downloaded drivers
[04:37] <Frogzoo> frank_b: max 4, usually use 3 & create as many logical as you like
[04:37] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:  sudo update-alternatives --config pager
[04:37] <phrizek> I just got new external hard drive. What is the best way to format the drive (its for linux use only)?
[04:37] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: ok ill give it a go ....
[04:38] <Aemo> ill try again
[04:38] <frank_b> Frogzoo, still on modern hard drives?
[04:38] <wastrel> yes
[04:38] <Rio79> when you use the command chmod, is there a way for its child directories to inherit the same permissions?  (i just configured the samba server but i cant write to it from a windows pc)
[04:38] <xtknight> Rio79, -R for recursive
[04:39] <wastrel> Rio79:  be careful with that.  lots of blown up systems due to chmod -R  :] 
[04:39] <Rio79> wastrel> blown up systems?
[04:40] <cpare> anyone able to help with a Kernel question?
[04:40] <Rio79> wastrel> how do you mean
[04:40] <Rio79> xtknight> thanks, btw!
[04:40] <xtknight> !anyone | cpare
[04:40] <ubotu> cpare: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:40] <cpare> Question - Is there a Kernel difference between Server and Workstation
[04:40] <wastrel> Rio79:  people have been known to accidentally chmod their whole filesystem, which breaks permissions all over the place :] 
[04:40] <cpare> L)
[04:40] <_goofy_> where are the startup scripts held......or are thay all over the place
[04:40] <cpare> :)
[04:41] <phrizek> Is anyone here familiar with formatting external drives correctly?
[04:41] <Infinity__> can someone tell me how I can get these little widget things for my ubuntu? http://www.ubuntux.org/latest-ubuntu?size=_original
[04:41] <Rio79> wastrel> ohh strange... good to know..
[04:41] <esac> running feisty on laptop with touchpad. if i click on a button sometimes that click will not 'register' until after i've moved my mouse. any ideas ?
[04:42] <kneeki> Hmm, how can I go about seeing the restricted repository?
[04:42] <xtknight> !universe
[04:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:42] <kneeki> I uncommented those lines from the .list file, is that all I have to do?
[04:42] <xtknight> Infinity__, gdesklets
[04:42] <xtknight> kneeki, sudo apt-get update
[04:42] <Rio79> xtknight, wastrel> "-R" only effects the child directories, right? it doesnt go up through the parent directories?
[04:42] <JebJoya> can i use ndiswrapper on an exe file?  also, how can i get ndiswrapper with an internet connection on WinXP but none on ubuntu?
[04:43] <dthacker> apt-get says that amavisd-new is not available but refers to another package, how can I find out what that package is?
[04:43] <kneeki> xtknight: thanks =)
[04:43] <Infinity__> xtknight: You in here too. :D Thanks
[04:43] <wastrel> Rio79:  only child yes
[04:43] <phrizek> kneeki: go to System> Administration > Software sources and check the box for restricted
[04:43] <Rio79> wastrel> cool thanks mang!
[04:43] <xtknight> Rio79, no it does not traverse the parents.  only the hcildren
[04:43] <xtknight> children*
[04:43] <Harpette> phrizek: what pbm have you encountered formatting your external HDD?
[04:43] <macd> !info htop
[04:43] <ubotu> htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-1 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 172 kB
[04:43] <Rio79> xtknight> thanks, du
[04:44] <phrizek> Harpette: the only problems i've encountered are permission errors, where I have to be root to do anything
[04:44] <Aemo> @xtknight, didnt work after i logged out, but restart did it
[04:44] <kneeki> phrizek: oh nice, thanks!
[04:44] <dthacker> !info amavisd-new
[04:44] <ubotu> amavisd-new: Interface between MTA and virus scanner/content filters. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:2.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 568 kB, installed size 1528 kB
[04:45] <Harpette> phrizek: that would be the way the drive is mounted. Readm man fstab and man mount
[04:45] <xtknight> Aemo, oh hmm
[04:45] <kd7wpc> join #cwirc
[04:45] <JebJoya>  can i use ndiswrapper on an exe file?  also, how can i get ndiswrapper with an internet connection on WinXP but none on ubuntu?
[04:45] <xtknight> Aemo, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart   would have done it, probably
[04:45] <xtknight> !wireless
[04:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:46] <phrizek> Harpette: all right, ill check that out
[04:46] <corden> guys what games are the best in ubuntu?
[04:46] <xtknight> Infinity__, another package of your interest may be gnome-art.  if you're trying to replicate someone else's desktop
[04:46] <xtknight> !info gnome-art | Infinity__
[04:46] <ubotu> infinity__: gnome-art: install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 200 kB
[04:46] <xtknight> corden, wolfenstein Enemy territory is probably the most popular.  i loved it
[04:46] <Alonea> anyone at all know why I can't get to my audio tab on winecfg?
[04:47] <ttrsh> hi, i need to modify my LD_LIBRARY_PATH env variable, but i need this change to affect every user.. how would i do this?
[04:47] <xtknight> Alonea, freezes a bit?  it froze on mine but it worked eventually
[04:47] <Harpette> phrizek: are you comfortable using the "man" command?
[04:47] <xtknight> ttrsh, why out of curiosity?
[04:47] <WNxCryptic> hello Everyone.
[04:47] <ttrsh> because of some application, it complains about lib not being found
[04:47] <xtknight> ttrsh,  just add it to "/etc/ld.so.conf" and run "sudo ldconfig" instead.  one time thing.
[04:47] <ttrsh> i know my problem is solved this way
[04:47] <ttrsh> ohhhhhhhhhh
[04:47] <ttrsh> thanks [04:47] <phrizek> Harpette: no :p
[04:48] <Alonea> xtknight: its completely frozen. Tried waiting 5 minutes or more with no luck
[04:48] <corden> xtknight it is free and included in repos?
[04:48] <WNxCryptic> Anyone particularly gifted in identifying problems with "make" and wireless drivers?
[04:48] <Harpette> phrizek: space bar to scroll forward, "b" to scroll back, "q" to quit
[04:49] <ttrsh> wow xtknight, you seriously saved my life ;)
[04:49] <Aemo> @xtknight, would you know about GRUB?
[04:49] <phrizek> Harpette: is there no way to have it work with the correct permissions when it automatically mounts?
[04:49] <xtknight> Aemo, yeah
[04:49] <xtknight> ttrsh, lol yeah ?
[04:49] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: well what do u know setting , LC_ALL=c man works ... thanks...
[04:49] <Harpette> phrizek: "/<your search string here>" (w/out the <> of course), "n" for next occurrence of search string
[04:49] <dthacker> ok, I've uncommented the universe lines in /etc/apt/sources-list, but apt still reports no package?
[04:49] <xtknight> corden, no
[04:49] <xtknight> corden, free yes not open source
[04:49] <xtknight> corden, actually it is oepn source, GPL.  my bad
[04:49] <runtime> is /usr/include like a "default" include directory?
[04:50] <Harpette> phrizek: yes, you need to edit /etc/fstab. man fstab
[04:50] <xtknight> id software releaesd Wolf ET source under GPL didnt they?
[04:50] <runtime> yes
[04:50] <xtknight> or not
[04:50] <xtknight> runtime, yeah it's the include of all includes
[04:50] <phrizek> Harpette: okay, i think I can do that
[04:50] <cpare> Question - Is there a Kernel difference between Server and Workstation - I have a machine with 4gb RAM and need a kernel that will identify all 4gb
[04:50] <corden> oic tnx for the info xtk
[04:50] <wastrel> dthacker:  sudo apt-get update
[04:50] <xtknight> corden, GPL but not in repos.  it's too big :P
[04:50] <Harpette> phrizek: assuming you have an entry for it in fstab. otherwise if you type the mount cmd yourself at the cmd line, then man mount
[04:50] <Aemo> xtknight: so right now, GRUB is the first boot loader, but the only os it seees is the VISTA chainloader, is it possible to skip the windows chainloader and be able to boot into vista and win2003 directly from grub?
[04:51] <runtime> "In early 2004 the source code for the game logic (not the game engine) was released to the benefit of its modding community. The game uses a modifed RTCW engine, the latter itself being a modified Quake III engine (which is open-source since 2006)."
[04:51] <WNxCryptic> Can someone whisper me regarding some driver issues I'm having?
[04:51] <xtknight> elaboate..
[04:51] <xtknight> elaborate *
[04:51] <phrizek> Harpette: I was hoping an external drive would be plug and play
[04:52] <FMJaguar> i'm using ubuntu to troubleshoot a system with a failing hard drive, but the ubuntu loader disc keeps giving me /hda I/O errors, is there a boot flag i can type in the disc menu to disable hard drive autodetection
[04:52] <WNxCryptic> lol xt
[04:52] <xtknight> Aemo, no it is not
[04:52] <Harpette> phrizek: in Linux nothing is plug and play. you have to fight
[04:52] <dthacker> wastrel: tnx
[04:52] <xtknight> Aemo, grub can't mount ntfs
[04:52] <xtknight> tons of pnp in linux
[04:52] <dager> Harpette: many people would beg to differ :D
[04:52] <xtknight> more than windows i'd say
[04:53] <WNxCryptic> @xt: Averatec laptop, 7.04 ubuntu; LAN is completely unrecognized and (to my knowlege) a driver doesn't exist for it, so I'm trying to install a driver for the wireless card.
[04:53] <phrizek> Harpette: ubuntu has surprisingly shattered that concept for me :)
[04:53] <peepsalot_> anyone here that has upgraded to fiesty?  do you know the part where it asks about "md" ?
[04:53] <xtknight> all the drivers are all there ;)
[04:53] <xtknight> !feisty | peepsalot_
[04:53] <ubotu> peepsalot_: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:53] <Harpette> dager: cool, please feel free to help out
[04:53] <cpare> Ubuntu is far better than the other options out there
[04:53] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, 'completely' unrecognized?  does it detect it over the PCI bus?
[04:53] <cpare> I was running FC1, 2, 3, 4 they all sucked
[04:53] <WNxCryptic> Not to my knowlege XT, but this is my first time back to Linux in a while.
[04:54] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, pastebin "sudo lspci -vv"
[04:54] <xtknight> !pastebin
[04:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:54] <WNxCryptic> The "Device Manager" for it comes up with a TON of stuff unrecognized...its hard to even sift through what is on the list.
[04:54] <xtknight> oh youre not on it now huh?
[04:54] <WNxCryptic> (no internet access on it)
[04:54] <cpare> as I had to compile my Wireless drivers each time the kernel got updated
[04:54] <xtknight> yeah coulda been a secondary lan
[04:54] <xtknight> hmm
[04:54] <tehkain> Man a ton of kernel issues have just popped up on the feisty forums
[04:54] <WNxCryptic> The only way I could get on is if I had a LAN card.
[04:54] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, well boot a livecd no the laptop
[04:54] <xtknight> on*
[04:54] <xtknight> tehkain, probably mostly user error ;)
[04:54] <mister_roboto> cpare: did you ever try opensuse? it's a pretty nice distro if you like rpm-based. one of the few that had working suspend/hibernate out of the box for my laptop
[04:55] <WNxCryptic> Any particular one? I've used 6.06, 6.04, 6.10 and now, 7.04.
[04:55] <Rio79> damn
[04:55] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, i would use 7.04
[04:55] <WNxCryptic> 7.04 at least gives me a "wireless device" (in the top-right), but when I connect to it, after 40 seconds it goes back to "No network connection"
[04:55] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, oh well that's good.  it loaded a driver.  you just need to learn how to use the wireless
[04:55] <xtknight> access point, essid, etc
[04:55] <Shoeb> Ok, crazy problem. I'm trying to install Ubuntu server, with RAID on a Asus P5W64 WS which has two gigabit ethernet interfaces. First, it either gives us problems booting up or is very slow in booting up when I start the PC. Second, once it goes in.. it sometimes detects network or sometimes doesn't. And if it does, when we go to the next screen where it's supposed to detect HDD (or RAID),...
[04:55] <Shoeb> ...it just shows us a blank blue screen .
[04:55] <Rio79> i cant seem to write to a ubuntu harddrive that is share through samba from windows.  does it matter what type of harddrive it is? (ext3 versus fat32)
[04:55] <WNxCryptic> So? There's problems with the roaming enabled thing?
[04:56] <Aemo> @xtknight, does lilo mount ntfs?
[04:56] <cpare> mister_roboto - I recently tried the Novell Open Enterprise Server for a project at work and it worked well, however the Novell Linux Desktop is still ucky
[04:56] <cpare> mister-roboto - I also played with SES9 and SES10
[04:56] <Rio79> system > administration > shared folders ... then the folder is not set to read only
[04:56] <cpare> but not the one your talking about
[04:57] <cpare> I may give it a try
[04:57] <wastrel> my upgrades always bork Pelo
[04:57] <xtknight> Aemo, no
[04:57] <xtknight> Aemo, lilo can barely mount ext2 haha ;P
[04:57] <cpare> but UBUNTU "Just works" for me :)
[04:57] <wastrel> that's why i have /home on a separate partition
[04:57] <cpare> so I am not going anywhere anytime soon
[04:57] <WNxCryptic> xt: thanks for all the help thus far, I've gotten into the network settings and disabled "Roaming mode"
[04:57] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, ok dont give up.  it's probably something silly like being unassociated with an acces point.  verdict is, your driver has been loaded
[04:57] <dk_ii> !pine
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <mister_roboto> cpare: yes, i ended up settling on kubuntu (i prefer kde) because i like debian based. however, the power saving stuff never did work right on the laptop, which is annoying in a minor way
[04:58] <Pelo> wastrel,  so do i but this time the upgrade wouldnt, read it and it borked my partition table so I had to do some copying and moving to restore it
[04:58] <WNxCryptic> @xt: Ok...this network is Open..but there isn't an option in "Password type" for "Open" (only WEP hexadec or WEP Ascii)
[04:58] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, hmm?
[04:58] <wastrel> yikes
[04:58] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, oh
[04:58] <xtknight> weird
[04:58] <bokey> dk_ii, pine is a simple terminal based mail client
[04:58] <xtknight> network manager is all buggy anyway, use ifconfig
[04:58] <WNxCryptic> lol...all the Comp Sci professors at my uni use Pine
[04:58] <WNxCryptic> lol
[04:59] <wastrel> eew who's using pine?  use mutt <3
[04:59] <dk_ii> thanks bokey
[04:59] <xtknight> WNxCryptic,  sudo iwconfig eth0 key open
[04:59] <dager> mutt-ng <3
[04:59] <bokey> WNxCryptic, well i guess it's more of his/her choice
[04:59] <bokey> np
[05:00] <xtknight> hrmm?
[05:00] <dk_ii> its not ?
[05:00] <Xenguy> as in freedom
[05:00] <Aemo> @xtknight, any solutions possible, i wouldnt mind using a non opensource bootloader, anything besides acronis
[05:00] <WNxCryptic> @xt
[05:00] <_nando_> good evening everyone
[05:00] <Xenguy> dk_ii: mutt is a better choice IMHO, but to each their own :-)
[05:00] <xtknight> Aemo, what is the problem with chainloading?
[05:00] <dk_ii> some reason its not in the repos?
[05:01] <_nando_> i need help to set up ssh... if someone can help please prv me
[05:01] <dk_ii> i'll try mutt too
[05:01] <Xenguy> dk_ii: it's not free as in freedom, likely :-)
[05:01] <madman91> where can i find a list of rss viewers>
[05:01] <madman91> ?
[05:01] <bokey> neither is so many drivers available in non-free. they aren't free either.
[05:01] <wastrel> dk_ii:  pine isn't open source
[05:01] <tam> right, this is going to sound very daft and OT, anyway, what is the cartoon character that has a beard, it's quite an old cartoon and its not captain haddock..can anyone help?
[05:01] <WNxCryptic> @XT: No eth0 device, my ifconfig only lists lo and ra1
[05:01] <Pelo> _nando_,  no ask your qestions in public, so we can all laugh at you
[05:01] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, use ra1 intead
[05:01] <dk_ii> oic
[05:01] <xtknight> Aemo, sorry not sure about other boot loaders..
[05:01] <Xenguy> bokey: I know it's hard to believe, but many linux users try to use free software when they can =)
[05:02] <_nando_> Pelo: :P... nice attitude
[05:02] <Aemo> @xtknight, its more of personal preference, its a bit annoying have to go thru more than 1 menu
[05:02] <WNxCryptic> @XT: No output after I entered the command, no apparent change in the little network icon in top right, checking network settings right now.
[05:02] <xtknight> Aemo, you might be able to work up some weird solution.  im sure it's possible somehow using .bin files from grub or smoething.  but i wouldnt be able to describe the procedue
[05:02] <Aemo> like to keep things simple
[05:02] <yamathan> Okay, this is something of a specialty question --
[05:02] <LM1> If ubuntu freezes with your liveCD how do you debug it to find what is causing the error
[05:02] <yamathan> Does anyone know how to mount an ATI AIW card as a radio tuner?
[05:02] <Xenguy> dk_ii: mutt will pay you back a thousand times for your patience - start by grabbing a good .muttrc file off the web
[05:02] <yamathan> Keep in mind right now I'm using an nvidia card for video.
[05:02] <WNxCryptic> @xt: Roaming mode still enabled.
[05:02] <yamathan> *Nvidia, even
[05:02] <dager> dk_ii: I can share mine with you, if you want
[05:03] <Aemo> @xtknight: that method is recommended for the linux noob, is it?
[05:03] <Aemo> isnt*
[05:03] <dager> dk_ii: the ArchLinux wiki has a really good entry on mutt as well, helped me with my initial setup greatly
[05:03] <_nando_> here it goes... how can i test if ssh port is open from my own computer? i do not have access to a remote shell
[05:03] <xtknight> LM1, try "noacpi nolapic noapic acpi=verbose irqpoll pci=irqroute" to try and get your pc in a semi-usable state
[05:03] <_nando_> i believe the firewall settings are ok
[05:03] <xtknight> LM1, at kernel params at livecd prompt
[05:03] <wastrel> _nando_:  ssh localhost
[05:03] <xtknight> Aemo, nope ;O
[05:04] <LM1> thanks xt...
[05:04] <LM1> :D
[05:04] <_nando_> wastrel: that works... but i cannot ssh to my computer from work
[05:04] <Xenguy> _nando_: lsof |grep -i listen
[05:04] <Xenguy> _nando_: ... should show the ports that are 'LISTENING'
[05:04] <WNxCryptic> @XT: iwconfig lists ESSID: "linksys" but cannot otherwise access internet.
[05:04] <_nando_> xenguy: nice tip
[05:04] <TodoInTX> dk_ii: try nano, some distros even symlink/alias it to pico,
[05:04] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, sorry i /hate/ wireless problems
[05:04] <xtknight> i'd rather stab myself honestly
[05:04] <xtknight> lol
[05:04] <WNxCryptic> lol
[05:04] <corden> xtknight just want to ask regading EULA in the terminal
[05:04] <wastrel> _nando_:  do you have the port forwarded in your router/gateway/firewall ?
[05:04] <WNxCryptic> So woudl I, would it fix this issue.
[05:04] <xtknight> maybe ;P
[05:05] <xtknight> !wireless
[05:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:05] <xtknight> these are more likely to ^^
[05:05] <_nando_> i am not sure how clever is the adsl modem i have
[05:05] <mister_roboto> _nando_: do you have the port forwarded through your router? (if you have one)   does your work location allow outbound connections on port 22?
[05:05] <xtknight> corden, hrmm EULA?
[05:05] <Xenguy> _nando_: er, sudo that
[05:05] <xtknight> corden, sorry kinda forgot your question
[05:05] <_nando_> i am stilll looking for a manual for that
[05:05] <corden> end user license a
[05:05] <xtknight> yea eula for what?
[05:05] <Fonty> Hello can I get some help?
[05:05] <xtknight> !ask
[05:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:06] <Fonty> lol okay
[05:06] <corden> i installed a program that have EULA, i was stock on it.
[05:06] <Aemo> Wireless problems!!!! WOOT. my intel proset 3945ABG worked straight after installation.. as well as in the live boot install
[05:06] <xtknight> corden, what EULA is coming up?  vmware?  java?
[05:06] <xtknight> oh
[05:06] <xtknight> press Q and type "yes" to accept it
[05:06] <xtknight> generally
[05:06] <xtknight> it's a 'more' script.  you exit it or scroll all the way down
[05:06] <dk_ii> whats the postfix? can I leave it at No Configuration?
[05:06] <corden> that's what i'm been looking for
[05:06] <corden> just like a man command
[05:06] <Fonty> ubuntu won't mount my cdrom, it was working fine on install then all of a sudden it's just not there
[05:06] <esac> running feisty on laptop with touchpad. if i click on a button sometimes that click will not 'register' until after i've moved my mouse. any ideas ?
[05:06] <Xenguy> dk_ii: an MTA (delivers email)
[05:07] <dager> dk_ii: its a drop-in replacement for sendmail
[05:07] <Shoeb> So, no one?
[05:07] <wastrel> esac:  feisty support is #ubuntu+1
[05:07] <cyris> How do I go about extracting a windows executable file ? i dont have access to windows atm :/
[05:07] <Xenguy> dk_ii: you probably want at least local mail delivery with postfix
[05:07] <Flannel> !wine | cyris
[05:07] <Aemo> @xtknight, does ubuntu have temp files that need cleaning?
[05:07] <Xenguy> cyris: what are you actually wanting to do?
[05:07] <ubotu> cyris: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:07] <Aemo> @xt how can i save some space
[05:08] <xtknight> Aemo, `sudo apt-get autoclean` to wipe dpkg cache
[05:08] <latitude> why is it that edgy will play some vcds and some wont?
[05:08] <cyris> Flannel: isn't their an easier way ? id rather not use wine.
[05:08] <wastrel> cyris:  if it's a self-extracting zip, unzip might do it
[05:08] <Rio79> i cant seem to write to a ubuntu harddrive that is share through samba from windows.  does it matter what type of harddrive it is? (ext3 versus fat32)........no one knows?
[05:08] <Aemo> @xt thanks
[05:08] <cyris> wastrel i'll give it a go.
[05:08] <Harpette> Aemo: look into the deborphan pkg too
[05:09] <cyris> wastrel: no good :S
[05:09] <xtknight> !samba
[05:09] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:09] <Fonty> ubuntu won't mount my cdrom, it was working fine on install then all of a sudden it's just not there, can someone help me with this?
[05:09] <wastrel> mmm samba. i'm reading the book atm
[05:09] <xtknight> Fonty, pastebin "sudo lshw -class disk"
[05:09] <xtknight> !pastebin
[05:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:09] <_nando_> should i install ssh or open-ssh?
[05:09] <xtknight> is there even a regular ssh?
[05:10] <Xenguy> _nando_: openssh is best
[05:10] <xtknight> ah it's a transitional pkg
[05:10] <_nando_> they are different packages
[05:10] <wastrel> openssh-server for sshing  but you already have it installed it sounds like
[05:10] <Flannel> _nando_: ssh is a metapackage, just points ot open-ssh
[05:10] <xtknight> yea
[05:10] <xtknight> ssh=openssh
[05:10] <_nando_> ok!
[05:10] <latitude> why is it that edgy will play some vcds and some wont? please help. appreciate it
[05:10] <Xenguy> _nando_: what Flannel said
[05:11] <cyris> well theres a few versions of ssh correct ?
[05:11] <cyris> and a few releases of ssh right ?
[05:11] <Xenguy> cyris: openssh (client and server :-)
[05:11] <peptobismal> hi, i am trying to install ubuntu, but my video resolution wont go above 640x680 and i cant see the buttons, i am using an nvidia pcix 5750, ive tried installing nvida drivers but it tells me to shut off x
[05:11] <cyris> yup
[05:11] <_nando_> xenguy: i tried the lsof command... the first number is the pid and the second number is...?
[05:11] <pluma> Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between the keyboard layouts? Clicking the indicator applet is not exactly fast.
[05:11] <Xenguy> cyris: some ssh are more open than others
[05:11] <Aemo> @xtknight after sudo apt-get autoclean, what comes next?
[05:12] <xtknight> Aemo, not sure
[05:12] <Fonty> err. xtknight I don't need to paste heaps, I just want to know how to get my cdrom drive back
[05:12] <xtknight> Fonty, you need to paste heaps to get your cdrom drive back ;)
[05:12] <Harpette> peptobismal: so, have you shut off X?
[05:12] <peptobismal> how
[05:12] <Fonty> heaps of what?
[05:12] <xtknight> Fonty, type "sudo lshw -class disk" in the terminal and pastebin that
[05:12] <xtknight> it will output text
[05:12] <Harpette> peptobismal: ctl+alt+backspace
[05:12] <peptobismal> when i do control+f1 and try to run it it still says x is running
[05:12] <xtknight> too much to paste into this channel
[05:12] <peptobismal> same thing with that 2
[05:13] <Xenguy> _nando_: actually not sure, I'd have to read the man page - dunno if it's all that important tho in most cases
[05:13] <peptobismal> and i do startx and it says xserver is already running
[05:13] <xtknight> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[05:13] <Aemo> @xtknight by using that command, does it clean it for you, or do you have to run it afterwards
[05:13] <peptobismal> so apparantly x isnt turning off when i do that
[05:13] <diabolix> is there some place i can browse all of the ubuntu source code?
[05:13] <xtknight> Aemo, hm i think you have to run it whenever you want to clean cache.  cache is persistent until then
[05:13] <xtknight> diabolix, thru the repositories
[05:13] <xtknight> diabolix, "apt-get source Pkgname"
[05:14] <_nando_> does /etc/inetd.conf have anything to do with configuring ssh?
[05:14] <xtknight> if ssh is an inetd daemon
[05:14] <xtknight> maybe
[05:14] <xtknight> i dont know
[05:14] <Fonty> what do I put in syntax xt?
[05:14] <Xenguy> !enter
[05:14] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:14] <xtknight> Fonty, doesnt matter
[05:14] <WNxCryptic> Gah!
[05:14] <Harpette> peptobismal: so you installed the nvidia drivers while running the live CD?
[05:14] <Aemo> @xtknight, is it suppose to show up under applications?
[05:14] <peptobismal> i tried
[05:14] <peptobismal> its not worken
[05:14] <WNxCryptic> XT: When I follow those tutorials I keep getting "Operation not permitted"
[05:14] <_nando_> mmm... i will have to google and man a little bit more :P
[05:14] <peptobismal> i cant turn off x to do it
[05:14] <xtknight> Aemo, what is supposed to show under Applications?
[05:14] <Aemo> autoclean
[05:15] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, need a sudo maybe?
[05:15] <peptobismal> it goes to the prompt, but it says x still hasnt shut down
[05:15] <xtknight> Aemo, no that isnt under Applications.  it's "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[05:15] <WNxCryptic> @XT: and using sudo doesn't seem to return anything (some commands are supposed to return info)
[05:15] <Harpette> peptobismal: do you know your monitor specs?
[05:15] <mlyon> I cant get Gnome to restart using ctrl-alt-delete!!
[05:15] <xtknight> ctlr alt backspaec
[05:15] <peptobismal> umm...
[05:15] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, what cmds?
[05:15] <peptobismal> not much of them
[05:15] <mlyon> ay yay yaaaayy
[05:15] <mlyon> thanks
[05:15] <JJ|Laptop> fuck, 1000 users...
[05:15] <Aemo> @xt after using that command, does it install autoclean? and i have to execute it?
[05:15] <xtknight> !language
[05:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:16] <peptobismal> magnavox, lcd, max res 1024x768 and native res, umm 15 inch
[05:16] <JJ|Laptop> almsot ##linux and #debian together
[05:16] <peptobismal> its also an hdtv
[05:16] <xtknight> Aemo, "autoclean is like install.  it's a command.  you dont install autoclean"
[05:16] <xtknight> Aemo, exactly "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[05:16] <xtknight> not install autoclean
[05:16] <Fonty> xt I get l sudo lshw -class disk
[05:16] <xtknight> Fonty, i need the URL of the pastebin?
[05:16] <overrider> for display purposes, id like to be able to switch around gnome and kde. can i just install kde-desktop, and be able to choose window manager before logging in? thanks
[05:17] <Fonty> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15311/
[05:17] <latitude> why is it that edgy will play some vcds and some wont? please help. appreciate it
[05:17] <Aemo> @xt i used sudo apt-get autoclean, now how do i make it clean?
[05:17] <peptobismal> harp did u see my specs?
[05:17] <peptobismal> it got wiped off pretty fast
[05:17] <xtknight> Fonty, sorry lol.  go to Applicatios->Terminal.  type that command there.  it will output some different text.  THAT is what you want on pastebin ;)
[05:17] <Harpette> peptobismal: what about the horizontal and vertical refresh rates?
[05:17] <peptobismal> 60hz
[05:17] <Fonty> okay :)
[05:17] <WNxCryptic> @XT: Well specifically "iwconfig ra1 ap addresshere" always says "bad address"
[05:18] <xtknight> hmm
[05:18] <xtknight> isnt that expecting a MAC address?
[05:18] <Harpette> peptobismal: each should be a range
[05:18] <_nando_> i don't have a static ip, so i use dyndns... could that be the reason for not reaching ssh? ping seems to work fine
[05:18] <peptobismal> i have no idea then
[05:18] <WNxCryptic> @XT yes, which I put in.
[05:18] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, in 00:00:00..form?
[05:18] <Harpette> peptobismal: Google search your monitor specs, or look in the manual if you have it
[05:18] <WNxCryptic> @XT: yes.
[05:18] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, "sudo iwconfig ra1 ap 00:00:00:00:00:00"  should do it...
[05:19] <pluma> Is there any way to define a keyboard shortcut to switch between keyboard layouts? Or any way to define a custom keyboard layout?
[05:19] <Kaladar> Using ubuntu edgy, for some reason, cannot update "libggl2". It shows as an update, but its grayed out. Has anyone seen this?
[05:19] <Fonty> xt here is the new url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15312/
[05:19] <xtknight> Kaladar, using beryl or sometihng?
[05:19] <WNxCryptic> @xt : also, searching for the "Channel" that a network is on using ""iwconfig ra1 channel N" does not do anything.
[05:19] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, hm i dont even know what that's supposed to do
[05:19] <Kaladar> xtknight, No sir
[05:19] <Aemo> @xt, i understand now. autoclean isnt another package that cleans for you
[05:20] <dk_ii> dager, if you don't mind please could I see your .muttrc file?
[05:20] <Xenguy> _nando_: here's a test you could try...
[05:20] <WNxCryptic> NVM..I'll fiddle with it.
[05:20] <xtknight> Fonty, running Edgy?
[05:20] <xtknight> Kaladar, any third party repositories?
[05:20] <_nando_> i am listening (ehhr... reading)
[05:20] <xtknight> libggi2 you mean?
[05:21] <xtknight> Fonty, weird i have seen that problem before.  your cdrom is detected but it is "UNCLAIMED".  i think it can't find a driver.  but you said it worked on the LiveCD???
[05:21] <Fonty> I don't know what edgy is.
[05:21] <Harpette> peptobismal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:21] <xtknight> Fonty, what verison of Ubuntu?
[05:21] <xtknight> version*
[05:21] <xtknight> Edgy Eft is the codename for version 6.10, the current version
[05:21] <ian_> hi @ aaroncampbell, abcdef, Absum, adaptr, Ademan_, adjioev, adnans, Aemo, afonic, Agenor, Agrajag, aib, aib_, aidehua, aimaz, aixing, ajmorris_, AJ_Z0, ak_, aKKiLLa, Alam_Ubuntu, Alan, alexicon, aleX-xx, AlienX, alindeman, alkalineX, Alonea, Alumin, Amaranth, AMDXP, ammiel, AmyRose, AndrewB, Android, androxxl, AndyMcM, AngryElf, animal_, ansaguy, aNtiBiOteK, Anti-Tedd, aoupi_, apecat, apokryphos, arcade, archangelpetro, ardchoille, arejay, aricz, a
[05:21] <Xenguy> _nando_: change the 'port' you are using in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to, say, 2345; then re-start the ssh server (/etc/init.d/ssh restart); then try ssh'ing from work into your home box via port 2345
[05:21] <xtknight> ian_, why did you do that?
[05:21] <peptobismal> harpette: what am i looking for again?
[05:21] <xtknight> Feisty Fawn is the codename for the new version of ubuntu coming out soon 7.04
[05:22] <Kaladar> @xtknight, Universe, Main, multiverse, restricted
[05:22] <kneeki> ... oh crap!
[05:22] <Alonea> ian_: hello to you too...
[05:22] <ardchoille> ian_: Please don't do that again.
[05:22] <_nando_> xenguy: i will give that a try
[05:22] <Pelo> xtknight,  he just found a new way of being annoying
[05:22] <Aemo> ITs coming out on the 19th i think
[05:22] <Harpette> peptobismal: how to view the whole enchilada when installing Ubuntu
[05:22] <kneeki> I uninstalled the drivers I got my ATI.com, and now my session auto logs me out when i attempt to login
[05:22] <Alumin> any of you guys have experience with dellmgr / PERC RAID cards?
[05:22] <Xenguy> _nando_: the point is to test if your work firewall is blocking outgoing port 22 (as someone mentioned earlier)
[05:22] <xtknight> Kaladar, hrm.  libggi2 is "held back" you mean?
[05:22] <Fonty> um not sure exact version, I downloaded the latest beta version though
[05:22] <kneeki> I get an errors message: .:106: Can't open /etc/profile
[05:22] <peptobismal> harpette: i mean what about my monitor am i looking for >.<
[05:22] <kneeki> Any ideas?
[05:22] <Ademan_> hi ian_
[05:22] <xtknight> Kaladar, try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in the terminal.  what then happens?
[05:22] <_nando_> i also asked an ubuntu user...
[05:22] <rai7> hello, does anyone here use beryl with an ati card?
[05:23] <_nando_> that doesn't seem to be the problem
[05:23] <tehkain> Anyone having issues with tonites -2.6.20-14 update?
[05:23] <xtknight> Fonty, what version of ubuntu are you running right now?
[05:23] <Harpette> peptobismal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-e2249d4bcb9fe0dea110f9b82ec7a40716221541
[05:23] <Alumin> dellmgr has this awesome interface with freaking no help whatsoever, so I had to choose between "rebuild" and "reconstruct" and chose the wrong one
[05:23] <Fonty> how do I check xt?
[05:23] <Alumin> so now it's busily converting my 66GB RAID-1 array to a RAID-0
[05:23] <Xenguy> _nando_: if you are talking to me, prepend my nick; I am on many channels
[05:23] <xtknight> Fonty, type "lsb_release -a" in the terminal
[05:23] <Alumin> thanks Dell
[05:23] <Kaladar> @xtknight, "could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[05:23] <xtknight> Kaladar, close update-manager
[05:23] <Alumin> I'm just wondering if I'll be able to convert it back after it's done
[05:23] <Harpette> peptobismal: the horizontal and vertical refresh rates, in Hertz and kiloHertz, both in ranges
[05:24] <Alonea> Ok, according to a guy in #winehq, the wine packages in adept are borked.
[05:24] <Dynatron> #swgemu
[05:24] <kneeki> xtknight: I removed the ATI drivers the way you said, but it seems to not work now
[05:24] <Fonty> 6.10 xt
[05:24] <xtknight> frequency range for your monitor, usually in the manual.  horizontal is in kHz, vertical in Hz
[05:24] <kneeki> xtknight: When I login, it says that it cannot open my profile
[05:24] <Kaladar> xtknight, "0 upgraded, 0 new, 0 removed, 1 not upgraded
[05:24] <Fonty> codename edgy ;)
[05:24] <Kaladar> so, yes, its being held back
[05:24] <Xanthus3545> can some one give the site to download the ubuntu alt cd please
[05:24] <xtknight> Fonty, yeah. hmm.  i'm not sure what's wrong with the drive.  you said it worked on the LiveCD ?
[05:25] <xtknight> Xanthus3545, Fonty,
[05:25] <Fonty> It worked after install too xt.
[05:25] <xtknight> Xanthus3545, http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[05:25] <xtknight> Fonty, hmm.  it just suddenly stopped?
[05:25] <Xanthus3545> Thank you
[05:25] <arrow> Qwell[] : yeah, thats what I meant to say, I'm having trouble burning them, they're in .avi containers (I think thats whats its called), I tried gnomebaker and k3b
[05:25] <Fonty> Then suddenly both drive icons dissappeared from my desktop.
[05:25] <Fonty> after a reboot, it has crashed a few times
[05:25] <xtknight> Fonty, that's odd.  a driver isn't being loaded for the drive but i'm not sure why.
[05:25] <Kaladar> @xtknight, the pkg is actually "libggi2"
[05:26] <dope> what's the command to pull up your network interfaces?
[05:26] <arrow> I'm having trouble burning x264 movies (.avi container) with gnomebaker, and k3b does anyone know how to burn x264 files?
[05:26] <Xenguy> dope: ifconfig
[05:26] <xtknight> Kaladar, try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to force update i guess
[05:26] <dope> thgx
[05:26] <Fonty> So I'm probably going to have to reinstall it all then?
[05:26] <bruenig> arrow, as data?
[05:26] <xtknight> Kaladar, should be able to grab libggi2 then
[05:26] <xtknight> i dont know why it's not going thru the normal upgrade
[05:26] <draconius> anybody in here using a system with an nvidia nforce 2200 professional chipset?
[05:26] <_nando_> does it exist something to test ssh from an external computer without a shell account (e.g. a website)? i would find the problem much faster...
[05:26] <arrow> bruenig, I'm trying to burn movies and make them play in my dvd player, whatever works
[05:26] <draconius> I've got a tyan tiger k8we  thats running great ... except under heavy disk access, it hard locks up
[05:27] <bruenig> !info devede | arrow
[05:27] <dope> does anyone in here have any experience with either darkstat or gnump3d?
[05:27] <ubotu> arrow: devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[05:27] <xtknight> kneeki, regular ati doesnt work?
[05:27] <Kaladar> xtknight, still says its held back. must not be a big deal, i imagine
[05:27] <cyris> Flannel: wow wine did the job quick, thanks
[05:27] <xtknight> Kaladar, hrm dont know
[05:27] <Xenguy> _nando_: shields up  ?
[05:27] <arrow> thx bruenig
[05:27] <Kaladar> and everything is running fine. just curious why its holding back :/
[05:27] <Aemo> i need wine for windows..
[05:27] <CharonX> Is there any channel specific to mechanical engineering or inventing ? I have a "ridiculous" but fun project I need a little help on
[05:27] <_nando_> xenguy: i don't get what you mean...
[05:28] <Kaladar> thanks, xtknight
[05:28] <xtknight> CharonX, i dont know.  you could try Anandtech forums Highly Technical section
[05:28] <wastrel> CharlieSu:  #robotics is the closest i can think of
[05:28] <wastrel> er, CharonX
[05:28] <Harpette> CharonX: try the room list and look at the topics of the channels
[05:28] <Xenguy> _nando_: http://www.grc.com/
[05:29] <Xenguy> _nando_: try testing port 22 (or whatever port you have ssh configured for) and see what happens
[05:29] <kneeki> xtknight: not at all. That's what i'm trying to use now
[05:29] <arrow> bruenig, do I have to have edgy to get that, or can I stick with dapper?
[05:29] <xtknight> kneeki, so youre on a diff PC now?
[05:29] <kneeki> xtnight: and now, I cannot even do the CTRL ALT F1 deal
[05:29] <_nando_> xenguy: that was what i was looking for... thanx!
[05:29] <bruenig> arrow, you need to get edgy
[05:29] <kneeki> xtknight: yes, my windows bos
[05:29] <kneeki> box*
[05:29] <arrow> bruenig: will do
[05:29] <xtknight> kneeki, i would go in recovery mode.  then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:29] <xtknight> kneeki, to get a working desktop first
[05:29] <kneeki> when I do CTRL ALT F1, my screen does some crazy color thing, and everything is unreadable
[05:30] <kneeki> ok
[05:30] <kneeki> xtknight: to get to recovery, i boot from cd right?
[05:30] <Aemo> how do i know the nvidia drivers are accelerating
[05:30] <xtknight> kneeki, it should be at the normal grub prompt (recovery mode for a particular kernel)
[05:30] <xtknight> Aemo, glxinfo | grep rendering
[05:30] <Xenguy> _nando_: I can tell you right now that your SSH server is listening on port 22 :-)
[05:30] <kneeki> xtknight, ok. i'll check that
[05:30] <_nando_> great!
[05:30] <peptobismal> harpette: none of them worked
[05:31] <_nando_> xenguy: did you ssh it?
[05:31] <Harpette> peptobismal: what did you do?
[05:31] <diabolix> why is the vesa driver in ubuntu so slow?
[05:31] <xtknight> in feisty it seems a lot faster
[05:31] <Xenguy> _nando_: yes
[05:31] <xtknight> im not sure
[05:31] <_nando_> xenguy: thanks a lot... i appreciate your effort
[05:31] <diabolix> maybe it was just that release of xorg...
[05:32] <peptobismal> use the nvidia driver thing, the auto detect things, and incorrect default depth,
[05:32] <cyris> Flannel: actually maybe not :S
[05:32] <Xenguy> _nando_: so your work is probably blocking port 22 outgoing, which is usually easy to work around with another port
[05:32] <Xenguy> _nando_: yw
[05:32] <kneeki> xtknight, okay found the recovery mode, booting now
[05:32] <cyris> Anyone have a macbook with working wireless ?
[05:32] <_nando_> you people are the ones which make ubuntu a great os :)
[05:32] <Alumin> you know, you'd think if you were going to make a raid tool with no help screens
[05:33] <MacLinuxMaster> When Feisty will be released ?
[05:33] <Harpette> peptobismal: i wouldn't worry about the nvidia driver just yet. i would ensure that X has the right monitor specs and restart X
[05:33] <xtknight> MacLinuxMaster, April 19th
[05:33] <Alumin> you could at least put in a little confirmation screen "oh by the way are you sure you want to rearrange a 66GB array?"
[05:33] <xtknight> !Feisty
[05:33] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:33] <MacLinuxMaster> ok
[05:33] <Aemo> @xt is it possible to pimp my GRUB
[05:33] <Harpette> peptobismal: if you tell me what specs you've found i can try to guide you
[05:33] <MacLinuxMaster> I think it was today
[05:33] <MacLinuxMaster> It is delayed ?
[05:33] <peptobismal> how i restart x, thats what im trying to do, ctrl+backspace takes me to fullscreen console, it still says x is running
[05:33] <xtknight> Aemo, umm well grub is the 'graphical' boot loader, so yes; )
[05:33] <diabolix> you can put a splash behind grub..
[05:33] <green> beryl is sweet
[05:33] <peptobismal> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6986112&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050032&id=1099389620562
[05:33] <xtknight> it's open source heh
[05:34] <Alumin> xtknight: actually it's "grand unified boot loader" :)
[05:34] <Aemo> is beryl the cube thing?
[05:34] <Harpette> peptobismal: ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:34] <xtknight> ohh
[05:34] <Aemo> !beryl
[05:34] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:34] <xtknight> yeah
[05:34] <Alumin> but nonetheless it is pimpable
[05:34] <xtknight> grand unified pimpability.
[05:34] <diabolix> you can pimp lilo too.
[05:34] <peptobismal> harpette: i told you ive tried that, but the drivers tell me that x server is still running, and when i hit ctrl+f7 i can continue what i was doing before i restarted x
[05:34] <Alumin> yah
[05:35] <Alumin> lilo has breakout
[05:35] <Aemo> i want ubuntu on my ps3
[05:35] <peptobismal> harpette: its almost as if its just giving me a command prompt without doing anything else
[05:35] <xtknight> Aemo, you can have it
[05:35] <diabolix> i would not recomend ubuntu on a ps3.
[05:35] <Alumin> for bootloader functionality, it's grub hands-down...but lilo has better candy
[05:35] <xtknight> ps3 kernel works sorta i believe
[05:35] <Alumin> heh
[05:35] <diabolix> ubuntu uses too much ram for the ps3.
[05:35] <Aemo> you think they will ever have the RSX chip working under linux?
[05:36] <diabolix> probably not.
[05:36] <xtknight> rsx?  is that the nvidia proprietary?
[05:36] <Aemo> yea
[05:36] <diabolix> no
[05:36] <xtknight> doubt it.  use vesa
[05:36] <Harpette> peptobismal: that's strange. did you start several instanmces of X, by any chance? Earlier you wrote that you did startx and what not
[05:36] <diabolix> it uses a special kernel module that gets you 2d acceleration.
[05:36] <diabolix> vesa is an x86 spec, so no. not vesa.
[05:36] <Aemo> !vessa
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vessa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <Aemo> !vesa
[05:36] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[05:37] <diabolix> i have slackintosh on my ps3.
[05:37] <Aemo> they wont enable rsx because of pirating right?
[05:37] <diabolix> thats probably it.
[05:38] <Alumin> uh
[05:38] <diabolix> they don't want people buying it to play open source games yet.
[05:38] <diabolix> like quake 3.
[05:38] <Alumin> good thing they're doing that, then...cause then people would be able to pirate games
[05:38] <Aemo> yea, i want to play nexuiz
[05:38] <Alumin> which they can't do now :)
[05:39] <sdlfk> WOOOHOOO!
[05:39] <diabolix> well.. you still need to do a few things to pirate games. you would have to figure out the whole call structure of their os.
[05:39] <sdlfk> I mean.. *whisper* yay
[05:39] <diabolix> its still cool to have a cell workstation.
[05:39] <kneeki> Grr, anyone have any ideas why sometimes during boot my system will just hang for around a minute, then continue booting and disabling all my USB ports? Gawd thats annoying
[05:39] <Aemo> i hope someone hacks it so RSX works, not to play backups but to play opensource!
[05:39] <xtknight> next version of ubuntu is Gutsy Gibbon
[05:39] <diabolix> sony will let it work eventually.
[05:40] <kneeki> xtknight: it didn't work =(
[05:40] <kneeki> Got the same error
[05:40] <diabolix> sony will let it happen as soon as they make money on the ps3.
[05:40] <Cosmo_>  I am trying to install the citrix vpn for my work using the instructions at https://216.241.173.165/full_linux_instructions.html but when I run the program it had me download this is what it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15316/ , can anyone help me?
[05:40] <dirgedoll> hello. can you tell me how to find my c drive? i have kubuntu 6.10 thanks
[05:40] <xtknight> kneeki, same colored screen you mean?
[05:40] <Aemo> yup
[05:40] <Alumin> dirgedoll: it's probably /dev/hda1
[05:40] <diabolix> just like they did for the ps2.
[05:40] <kneeki> xtknight: only now its purple =\
[05:40] <dirgedoll> ok
[05:40] <kneeki> instead of pink
[05:40] <xtknight> kneeki, ;O hmm
[05:41] <xtknight> video card corruption?
[05:41] <xtknight> try a livecd with safe graphics mode
[05:41] <kneeki> No idea. The login screen looks normal though
[05:41] <xtknight> see if that works
[05:41] <pyrak> which one of these do i choose:
[05:41] <pyrak> To download the Linux Fedora Core 5 version click here.
[05:41] <pyrak> To download the Linux SuSE Intel version click here.
[05:41] <pyrak> To download the Linux Debian Intel version click here.
[05:41] <pyrak> To download the Linux Generic Intel version click here.
[05:41] <xtknight> debian
[05:41] <xtknight> probably
[05:41] <xtknight> what is it?
[05:41] <bullgard4> What is the function of kernel object files (having the extension .ko)?
[05:41] <pyrak> firstclass(.com)
[05:41] <Alumin> bullgard4: usually they're modules
[05:41] <kneeki> xtknight: any ideas why my login screen would look normal, and my CTRL ALT F1 looks all fuggerd?
[05:41] <pyrak> i dunno...
[05:41] <Alumin> firstclass the BBS?
[05:41] <xtknight> bullgard4, they are kernel modules that are not built in to the kernel itself.  usually drivers
[05:42] <pyrak> no, its just an email clinety thingey
[05:42] <xtknight> kneeki, no idea
[05:42] <pyrak> its really crappy, but my school uses it
[05:42] <Alumin> oh
[05:42] <jimb0> i'm almost done migrating my work computer from windows xp to ubuntu. only problem: i need to run Visio to do network diagrams for my job. is there a way to run my windows xp partition in say a virtual machine within ubuntu to do this?
[05:42] <bullgard4> Alumin, xtknight : Thank you!
[05:42] <sdlfk> dirgedoll, depdns on if it's NTFS of FAT or what, but it's not always /dev/hda1, get a partitionar like disk druid of fdisk or something and look at all your drives and determine which one it is via disk space and how it's partitioned
[05:42] <xtknight> !vmware | jimb0
[05:42] <ubotu> jimb0: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:42] <jimb0> or another method?
[05:42] <xtknight> !wine
[05:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:42] <xtknight> !virtualizers
[05:42] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[05:42] <Alumin> I'd say vmware or crossover office
[05:42] <Aemo> !qemu
[05:42] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[05:43] <kneeki> *sigh* I been working on this stupid issue for the last 2 days strait =(
[05:43] <diabolix> none of them do 3d accelleration all that well.
[05:43] <pyrak> so which version do i dl!?
[05:43] <kneeki> driving me bonkers
[05:43] <pyrak> debian?
[05:43] <Alumin> pyrak: debian is closest to ubuntu
[05:43] <rai7> Hi, does anyone know how to make a mounted drive read-only? I'm using some drivers off of automatix, and it mounted my windows partition?
[05:43] <diabolix> jimb0, what is visio?
[05:43] <dirgedoll> ok i see somethingn that says 39g home is that the same as a c drive and if so why am i not seeing anything in it like you would in windows?
[05:43] <Alumin> the generic one should work regardless but will probably require more work to install
[05:44] <Aemo> you the cell processor can be tweaked to run windows thru an emulator somewhat near native or a little bit closer to native speeds?
[05:44] <Aemo> think*
[05:44] <Harpette> rai7: man fstab, and man mount
[05:44] <Jeepster[] > sdlfk !!!!!!!
[05:44] <sdlfk> 1000 Jeepster !
[05:44] <Jeepster[] > :D
[05:44] <Jeepster[] > yay@
[05:44] <Jeepster[] > !
[05:44] <dirgedoll> i am lost hehe
[05:44] <Jeepster[] > aw
[05:44] <pyrak> alumin, ewww, work...
[05:44] <sdlfk> You're on a J binge
[05:44] <Jeepster[] > me too
[05:44] <rai7> are those terminal commands?
[05:44] <sdlfk> one thousand and two
[05:44] <Harpette> rai7: yes
[05:44] <sdlfk> keep 'em comin'!
[05:44] <Aemo> QUESTION OF THE DAY, since i am running ubuntu, what should i take advantage of?
[05:44] <dirgedoll> what are they used for
[05:45] <sdlfk> Strike!
[05:45] <xtknight> sdlfk, please dont format it
[05:45] <Harpette> rai7: space bar to scroll forward, b to scroll backward, q to exit
[05:45] <Strike> sdlfk!
[05:45] <sdlfk> Are you following me?
[05:45] <diabolix> Aemo, why would you want windows on the cell?
[05:45] <Strike> yea
[05:45] <rai7> ooh, thanks
[05:45] <sdlfk> xtknight, oh no just splitting the persons haha mucho people
[05:45] <Strike> so wassup sdlfk
[05:45] <xtknight> :P
[05:45] <Harpette> rai7: to know how to use it really well, "man less"
[05:45] <Aemo> diabolix nvm, so i can play counter-strike!
[05:45] <xtknight> Aemo, take advantage of...ubuntu?
[05:45] <kneeki> xtknight: well, I booted off the live CD
[05:45] <sdlfk> Strike watching the count rise
[05:45] <Ltar> can Evolution be synched with Gmail?
[05:46] <dirgedoll> i am lost so very lost
[05:46] <Strike> ya same here
[05:46] <diabolix> ubuntu isn't a woman...
[05:46] <Strike> what!
[05:46] <Strike> it isnt!
[05:46] <Aemo> @xt maybe i worded that wrong... i mean what are the must haves when u have ubuntu
[05:46] <Strike> how is it having my kids then!
[05:46] <jimb0> diabolix: visio is a vector-based design app in ms office
[05:46] <Gokul> i'm trying to upgrade my system from breezy to dapper via the update-manager and I keep getting "unresolvable error"
[05:46] <sdlfk> lol Strike
[05:46] <sll> good evening
[05:46] <wastrel> jimb0:  tried dia ?
[05:46] <dimas__> any suggestion for a good place to get codecs to have totem work with microsoft media files and streams
[05:46] <Strike> hi sll
[05:46] <Strike> i havent seen you in awhile
[05:46] <diabolix> jimb0, wine is by far the best way to run windows apps, when it works.
[05:46] <sdlfk> ubuntu you shouldn't try reproducing with your OS anyway
[05:46] <Gokul> any suggestions on how to tackle this?
[05:46] <sdlfk> we don't need a StrikeOS
[05:46] <sdlfk> lol
[05:46] <diabolix> jimb0, but if it doesn't, then i recoment qemu.
[05:47] <Strike> ha that would be awesome
[05:47] <Ltar> Strike:  try cat /etc grep | uterus to see if ubuntu is a woman
[05:47] <diabolix> jimb0, does that do any 3d?
[05:47] <sdlfk> hahaha Ltar
[05:47] <Aemo> !aircrack
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aircrack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <Strike> lol
[05:47] <jimb0> so for my next question: why is installation of just about any non-apt package such a pain in the butt? make rarely seems to work like it's supposed to...
[05:47] <kneeki> Can I edit my current installed ubuntu from the live CD?
[05:47] <Aemo> !airsnort
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about airsnort - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <wastrel> Ltar:  you can view your gcal in evo
[05:47] <xtknight> lol poor timing
[05:47] <sdlfk> all right I'm out!
[05:47] <Pablo--> hey guys.. nay idea if it's possible to install Ubuntu in text mode like old' redhat
[05:47] <Strike> No its not
[05:47] <xtknight> !alternate | Pablo--
[05:47] <Strike> bye
[05:47] <ubotu> Pablo--: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:47] <Pablo--> thanks :P
[05:47] <rai7> huh? less doesnt seem to have anything to do with mount?
[05:48] <dimas__>  any suggestion for a good place to get codecs to have totem work with microsoft media files and streams
[05:48] <jimb0> ie, if it requires unzipping and using make or ./configure, it probably wont install correctly for me
[05:48] <Aemo> any interesting apps for Ubuntu?
[05:48] <Aemo> that windows doesnt have
[05:48] <Aemo> ..
[05:48] <Ltar> wastrel: gcal?
[05:48] <xtknight> Aemo, hmm..  gnome-art ?
[05:48] <xtknight> Aemo, weather applet?
[05:48] <Had3l> Hey guys, first time here, I am trying to set up a wireless connection in Ubuntu on a laptop, just installed linux today, still trying to figure things out
[05:48] <diabolix> jimb0, honestly, if you use a distro other than ubuntu, installing from source is alot easier.
[05:48] <Gokul> i'm trying to upgrade my system from breezy to dapper via the update-manager and I keep getting "unresolvable error"
[05:48] <Had3l> Can anyone help me?
[05:48] <Harpette> Gokul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-1d23d3a3a8b3c464847785dd1f2ed05b0b24176a
[05:49] <wastrel> jimb0:  you installed build-essential i assume, you may also need to install -dev packages for the specific dependencies of the stuff you're compiling
[05:49] <dimas__> Aemo>>>kedenlive is a very good app
[05:49] <Harpette> rai7: less has much to do with how to read man pages
[05:49] <wastrel> ltar nvm
[05:49] <rai7> okay- so I think its unmount the windows drive- then   mount \media\hda1 -ro  ?
[05:50] <wastrel> jimb0:  dia is the linux visio (like gimp is the linux photoshop, so ymmv :)
[05:50] <Harpette> !wireless | Had3l
[05:50] <ubotu> Had3l: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:50] <wastrel> can't read existing visio files however.
[05:50] <pyrak> how do i tweak the settings on my touchpad?
[05:50] <Had3l> Thanks, I'll have a look, see if I can figure it out
[05:50] <Had3l> !wireless
[05:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:50] <bef> hey guys is there a good remastering software for ubuntu which makes me an .iso of what is currently configured? (for compiling a new distro)
[05:50] <Had3l> ah, there you go
[05:51] <Harpette> rai7: sounds about right. Also, change the "default" option by "noauto" in /etc/fstab
[05:51] <NemesisD> hi does anyone know of any good ubuntu applications that will just show the /dev addresses for attached hard drives? i'm trying to tell 2 connected hard drives apart
[05:51] <pyrak> so lets revisit the touchpad issue
[05:51] <jimb0> yeah i need to use Visio
[05:51] <dimas__>  any suggestion for a good place to get codecs to have totem work with microsoft media files and streams
[05:51] <macd> !info pdns
[05:51] <ubotu> pdns: meta package for the pdns nameserver. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.9.20-3 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 52 kB
[05:51] <jimb0> nothing else will cut it, gotta share/send these to people
[05:51] <jimb0> so i guess ill have to get wine working
[05:51] <rai7> Harpette: I see, thanks a lot
[05:51] <the-erm> Anyone here run a mail server?  Postfix in particular.
[05:52] <Harpette> rai7: you're welcome
[05:52] <jimb0> is it stupid to try to get wine working from a visio executable on an ntfs winxp partition?
[05:52] <pyrak> so about my touchpad...
[05:52] <pyrak> is my touchpad that depressing?
[05:52] <kneeki> i am beginning to hate what i do not understand
[05:52] <jtt> bef: go to wiki and search for live cd customization
[05:52] <wastrel> pyrak:  synaptics touchhpad?
[05:52] <pyrak> ummm
[05:53] <rai7> Harpette: err, when you say change change "noauto" to "-ro"?
[05:53] <pyrak> its a notebook touchpad
[05:53] <pyrak> as in, in lieu of mouse
[05:53] <kneeki> xtknight: think i would have more luck with the feisty live cd?
[05:53] <xtknight> kneeki, did you say it still messed up the ttys even on the livecd?
[05:53] <Harpette> rai7: change the "default" option by "noauto" in /etc/fstab
[05:53] <kneeki> i don't know what ttys is
[05:53] <kneeki> =\
[05:53] <xtknight> kneeki, terminals ctrl alt F1
[05:53] <xtknight> those are the ttys
[05:53] <pyrak> wastrel, its just a bit too sensitive, wanna tweak that a bit if possible
[05:53] <kneeki> oh
[05:54] <NemesisD> is there any good way to get a listing of attached hard drives
[05:54] <xtknight> NemesisD, sudo lshw -class disk
[05:54] <kneeki> i booted from the live cd, but i wasnt sure if i could fix my install from there
[05:54] <Harpette> rai7: actually it's "defaults", with an s
[05:54] <wastrel> pyrak:  dig around in /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[05:54] <kneeki> since it just loaded the entire OS
[05:54] <xtknight> NemesisD, it also lists CD/dvd drive and perhaps usb
[05:54] <rai7> Harpette: Ohhhhh
[05:54] <diabolix> why does gnome have to be such a resource hog.. i like the way it behaves but i really don't like its ram usage.
[05:54] <rai7> harpette: it wont automount that drive
[05:54] <xtknight> kneeki, i was saying try Ctrl Alt F1 on the livecd.  same color problem?
[05:54] <Harpette> diabolix: try XFCE
[05:54] <pyrak> wastrel, uhhh, on the ubuntu site?
[05:54] <xtknight> diabolix, odd.  runs fine here
[05:54] <rai7> Harpette: I see, thanks
[05:55] <xtknight> ram is made to be used
[05:55] <diabolix> i have a gig of ram, i shouldn't need xfce.
[05:55] <kneeki> xtknight: I didn't try it. I must have missed that message. However, i was able to use the desktop and all that, it all looked normal
[05:55] <wastrel> pyrak:  on your filesystem ??  it might not be installed by default, i usually get all the doc packages
[05:55] <Harpette> diabolix: XFCE is the default DE on Xubuntu
[05:55] <kneeki> i'm at root@kneeki-desktop now
[05:55] <kneeki> I booted from the grub repair deal
[05:55] <xtknight> kneeki, hmm
[05:55] <xtknight> kneeki, ohhh
[05:55] <xtknight> kneeki, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xortg
[05:55] <xtknight> did you do that?
[05:55] <xtknight> xserver-xorg  ***
[05:55] <kneeki> many times, yes
[05:55] <xtknight> try Feisty
[05:55] <xtknight> what do you have to lose?
[05:56] <kneeki> did the 'wizard' or whatever.
[05:56] <kneeki> lol, nothing
[05:56] <wastrel> pyrak:  man 5 synaptics   seems promising as well
[05:56] <kneeki> I have cedega installed, that's it
[05:56] <xtknight> ;P
[05:56] <kneeki> got a link to Feisty download?
[05:56] <diabolix> can you upgrade to feisty?
[05:56] <pyrak> wastrel, whats man 5 synaptics, an app?
[05:56] <xtknight> !upgrade
[05:56] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:56] <kneeki> imma bout to slam my head through my desk
[05:56] <xtknight> release candidate is out about now i think
[05:56] <pipepool> hi all, i have a problem: i was using Feisty when i realized that all my Desktop and home directories were erased. All except a directory with root privilegies and the hidden directories (.Directory). I was reading the logs and i dont find anything, anyone could help me please? Sorry for my english
[05:56] <Alumin> kneeki: are you just trying to get a working X config?
[05:56] <Alumin> or something else
[05:57] <xtknight> kneeki, http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[05:57] <wastrel> pyrak:  man is the "manual"  the man command gives access to manual pages.  man 5 synaptics is "view the manual page for synaptics (in section 5 of the manual)
[05:57] <bef> jtt: the latest is for dapper?
[05:57] <wastrel> "
[05:57] <kneeki> xtknight: thanks bud. i'll give this a whirl
[05:57] <Harpette> pyrak: how to use man: space bar to scroll forward, b to scroll backward, q to exit
[05:58] <Aemo> @diabolix, how do you maintain and clean ubuntu, keeping it speedy
[05:58] <Alumin> if you're just trying to get X back, I find that "X -configure" almost always gives a functional, if minimalist, X config
[05:58] <kneeki> I have a 64 bit AMD cpu, should I give that a try?
[05:58] <kneeki> Or stick with i386
[05:58] <jtt> bef: that one should work for all versions
[05:58] <xtknight> kneeki, stick with i386
[05:58] <Alumin> it probably won't be great, but it'll get you out of the console
[05:58] <kneeki> ok
[05:58] <xtknight> less trouble
[05:58] <xtknight> doesnt sound like you need more
[05:58] <diabolix> Aemo, i've only been using ubuntu for 2 days
[05:58] <Aemo> aftero
[05:58] <Aemo> o
[05:58] <pyrak> wastrel, ok
[05:59] <pyrak> harpette, thanks
[05:59] <diabolix> i love how well it set everything up for me.. not sure i'll keep using it tho.
[05:59] <diabolix> i almost peed myself when my laptop suspended..
[05:59] <Harpette> pyrak: man uses the "less" pager. So, to know how to use man better, read "man less" and loom at the COMMANDS section
[06:00] <Aemo> @xtknight, ubuntu did its update (300 some programs) then i did apt-get update, was that unnecessary ?
[06:00] <xtknight> Aemo, update just updates apt's database.  'upgrade' is what actually updates all the packages
[06:00] <Aemo> yea i ran that command too
[06:00] <Aemo> was it unnecessary? since ubuntu already updated?
[06:01] <wastrel> hrm suspend
[06:01] <xtknight> Aemo, it was necessary if there was updates.
[06:01] <wastrel> i've never gotten suspend to work. i think it's an issue with fglrx
[06:01] <Aemo> alright, just wanted to make sure i wasnt wasting space
[06:01] <xtknight> Aemo, it does "apt-get update" periodically automatically if that's what you mean
[06:01] <NemesisD> xtknight, quick question, how would a usb drive be shown with that lshw command
[06:01] <xtknight> NemesisD, hmm.  it should be in -class disk?
[06:02] <xtknight> NemesisD, maybe not.  otherwise, try lsusb
[06:03] <pyrak> harpette, hmmm, the problem im having is that it uses tapping the pad as clicking, but i dont see an option to disable that..
[06:03] <xtknight> !gutsy
[06:03] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[06:03] <xtknight> i love that name
[06:03] <dirgedoll> how do i get permissions to view my c drive?
[06:04] <zero88> como estas hermanos
[06:04] <dirgedoll> anyone know?
[06:04] <jtt> dirgedoll: c drive as in windows  C:
[06:05] <dirgedoll> yeah
[06:05] <dirgedoll> mine says floppy 0
[06:05] <dirgedoll> or something like that
[06:05] <zero88> mount the drive
[06:05] <jtt> dirgedoll: are u on linux OS
[06:05] <dirgedoll> ok is there an easy way to do that
[06:05] <dirgedoll> yeah
[06:05] <dirgedoll> purely linux no windows for me!
[06:05] <dirgedoll> hehe
[06:06] <zero88> dirgedoll then why you have C:?
[06:06] <dirgedoll> i was just equating what I had with a c drive i didnt know what it was called in linux
[06:06] <jtt> dirgedoll:  df -k and see if i auto mounted
[06:06] <dirgedoll> so how do i mount my drive?
[06:06] <zero88> its /
[06:06] <Gokul> when i do this: sudo apt-get remove xscreensaver, it seems to want to remove: ubuntu-desktop xscreensaver. is it safe to continue?
[06:06] <Aemo> what distro does Dell sell with their comps?
[06:06] <zero88> and everyhting after that
[06:07] <jtt> dirgedoll: to see if it automounted
[06:07] <dirgedoll> so / df -k
[06:07] <zero88> gokul did u install xscreensaver?
[06:07] <dirgedoll> in a terminal?
[06:07] <jtt> dirgedoll: no  just   df -k  in a terminal window
[06:07] <Gokul> zero88: i think i had installed it sometime back
[06:07] <pyrak> ok, so how do i acces the XOrg/XFree86 config file?
[06:08] <jtt> dirgedoll:  should  display as  possibly  /dev/fd0  or   /dev/sda  etc
[06:08] <dirgedoll> a bunch of stuff came up
[06:08] <Gokul> zero88: i don't need the xscreensaver but i'm not sure if i should go ahead?
[06:08] <zero88> gokul try sudo find / -name xscreensaver
[06:09] <ceeg> does anyone know how i can make firefox work on pages that 'require ie', like fake its headers or something?
[06:09] <jtt> dirgedoll: do you know how to use paste bin
[06:09] <Ltar> I found a guide to sync gmail with evolution, but when the guide said to set "use secure connection" to "always", my options were only "no encryption" "TLS" or "SSL". Also, the setup never asked for a password to my gmail account? Attempting to check my gmail loads the send-server fine, but remains "waiting" forever in the download server (pop)
[06:09] <Ltar> halp?
[06:09] <zero88> and see where all the xscreensaver files are
[06:09] <dirgedoll> no
[06:09] <NemesisD> have any of you used with dd_rescue
[06:09] <zero88> !pastebin
[06:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:10] <jtt> !pastebin |dirgedoll
[06:10] <ubotu> dirgedoll: please see above
[06:10] <kneeki> xtknight: weird! I was having the same issue on my laptop (I did the exact same things on my desktop and laptop) and i got the same errors (duh). However, If I just stop the xserver, and restart it at the terminal line, i can run w/o any problems it seems
[06:10] <dirgedoll> !pastebin
[06:10] <Gokul> zero88: this is one of them - /etc/pam.d/xscreensaver and there are some in /usr/share, /usr/bin, /usr/lib etc, now what?
[06:10] <zxul767> Ltar use SSL for both the smtp and pop servers
[06:10] <kneeki> and, the downloaded ATI driver is gone
[06:10] <zero88> dirgedoll so what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:10] <jtt> !pastebin
[06:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:10] <xtknight> kneeki, really odd
[06:10] <kneeki> yeah
[06:10] <Had3l> question: I am running Ubuntu 6.10, but I see no Network Manager Icon. When I try to run "sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome" I get: "E: Couldn't find package netowrk-manager-gnome"
[06:10] <Had3l> What should I do?
[06:10] <xtknight> Had3l, it is in "sudo apt-get install network-manager"
[06:10] <zero88> gokul you know how to make and run scripts?
[06:10] <dirgedoll> i was just trying to mount my drive to find some programs
[06:10] <pyrak> how do i enable SHMconfig?
[06:10] <jtt> dirgedoll: use paste bin to post what came out
[06:10] <dirgedoll> is my font big?
[06:10] <pyrak> and what is it?
[06:11] <Gokul> zero88: i could try, why?
[06:11] <zero88> dirgedoll so you have a dual boot system?
[06:11] <dirgedoll> !pastebin
[06:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:11] <dirgedoll> no i dont
[06:11] <zero88> gokul its ok, ill give you a command to find and erase all the xscreensaver
[06:11] <Gokul> zero88: ok
[06:12] <Had3l> to "sudo apt-get install network-manager" - "E: Couldn't find package network-manager"
[06:12] <xtknight> weird
[06:12] <xtknight> !sources.list
[06:12] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:12] <pyrak> WTF IS SHMconfig!?!?!
[06:12] <xtknight> regenerate it or something
[06:12] <Aemo> @xtknight if i give 2003 its own bootloader, will i be able to have the 3 OSs under grub (ubuntu,vista,2003)
[06:12] <pluma> Anybody know what the <>| key (left of X on most keyboard layouts) is called in X11?
[06:12] <xtknight> !patience
[06:12] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:12] <Ltar> zxul767: error- my gmail account is not set up for POP access?
[06:12] <xtknight> Aemo, yes
[06:13] <konam> someone could tell me a line of code to rip a dvd, i use to knew one but i forgot it......
[06:13] <dirgedoll> it looks like my hd was mounted
[06:13] <robert_> ugh
[06:13] <Gokul> zero88: sudo find / -name xscreensaver | xargs rm should do it, right?
[06:13] <zxul767> Ltar, you have to go to options in a web browser and set it up to use the pop server
[06:13] <pluma> i.e. the key next to AB01 -- apparently it's not BKSL.
[06:13] <TaJMoX> Hey what's a good desktop launcher dock thats noot an object  suite like gdesklets or superkaramba ?
[06:13] <Ltar> zxul767:  wait, nevermind- I just noticed- the error message smartly opened a gmail help page in the backround
[06:13] <zero88> gokul find / -name *xscreensaver* -exec rm -f -r {} \;
[06:13] <robert_> can I tell wtf is going wrong with my eth0 device?
[06:13] <zero88> gokul or that could do it,im not sure
[06:13] <robert_> it's not connecting to my router
[06:13] <TaJMoX> like whats a good small magnify launcher app for X ?
[06:13] <robert_> it recognizes dhcp
[06:14] <Had3l> what do you mean with "regenerate it"? I'm a total linux noob
[06:14] <Aemo> @xtknight, if i use repair for 2003, will it give its bootloader back?
[06:14] <zxul767> Ltar, good, that should solve your problem
[06:14] <robert_> but it gives me a bunch of "Permission denied" and an "Operation not permitted" error
[06:14] <zero88> dirgedoll you look in the mount folder yet?
[06:14] <pluma> Nevermind. Found it: LSGT
[06:14] <zero88> robert_ use sudo
[06:15] <dirgedoll> i dont know where it is, but in the terminal a bunch of stuff came up
[06:15] <robert_> zero88: I use 'sudo su -'
[06:15] <Ltar> zxul767: yeah, it did. thanks!
[06:15] <dirgedoll> like used available and mounted on
[06:15] <BFTD> How do i play protected .wma files
[06:15] <GauntletWizard> Does anyone have experience getting the tablet to work on a Toshiba portege 3500?
[06:15] <zero88> robert_ what command you using to give you permission denied
[06:15] <BFTD> they came from napster
[06:15] <jskulski> is wlan0 the new ra0?
[06:15] <zxul767> welcome dude!
[06:16] <robert_> 'dhclient3 eth0'
[06:16] <dirgedoll> let me see if i can find the folder
[06:16] <zero88> dirgedoll cd /mnt
[06:16] <wastrel> jskulski:  it depends on your wireless driver, my wireless interface is on eth1
[06:16] <Aemo> @xtknight, how bout i install grub to the 2003 partition, give it one menu item and 0 secs to choose
[06:16] <Had3l> yeah, my wireless is on eth1, but I still can't get it down
[06:16] <dirgedoll> ok theres another prompt
[06:17] <zero88> what does it say
[06:17] <jskulski> ok, well I have that device in iwconfig. I am trying to set up the rt61 driver according to the minihowto but somethings are different
[06:17] <dirgedoll> mnt$
[06:17] <zero88> ok now type ls -a
[06:17] <robert_> I'll have to type it all up
[06:17] <zero88> ls or ls -a
[06:17] <Aemo> if my wifi is eth0,, then where is my lan
[06:18] <drew> hey, when is feisty release date??
[06:18] <zero88> robert_ just put sudo infront of the command
[06:18] <dirgedoll> ok mnt$ again
[06:18] <TaJMoX> Nobody knows the name of an app launcher bar for the gnome desktop ?
[06:18] <wastrel> drew:  before the end of the month
[06:18] <Aemo> @dew, 18th or 19th
[06:18] <jtt> drew:  19th of april
[06:18] <drew> ok, thx
[06:18] <Toma-> TaJMoX: gnome-panel ?
[06:18] <zero88> dirgedoll typing ls didnt list any folder or files?
[06:18] <Aemo> i was going to print a label for fiesty, but i remembered i can get free fiesty! YAY
[06:18] <dirgedoll> no but when i did the other command a whole bunch of things came up
[06:19] <zero88> dirgedoll  ls should have show the folders and directoires
[06:19] <TaJMoX> Toma- I want one that magnifies
[06:19] <dirgedoll> the df -k command brought up a bunch of things
[06:19] <TaJMoX> but good suggestion
[06:19] <zero88> whats df -k?
[06:19] <Had3l> Can anyone help me? I am trying to set up a wireless in my laptop, I read the how to files in the wikis, but still, the "Network Manager" icon isn't showing up. I tried to do "sudo apt-get install network-manager" but I get "E: Couldn't find package network-manager". Am I completelly screwed?
[06:19] <dirgedoll> hmmmmm
[06:20] <_goofy_> how do i keep mythtv from starting on boot-up
[06:20] <Toma-> TaJMoX: gdesklets
[06:20] <zero88> had3l have you checked in the administration menu?
[06:20] <TaJMoX> Toma- Ah see I dont want the whole object suite thing     just the launcher
[06:20] <Had3l> I have Networking and Network Tools
[06:21] <shinichizio> I keep asking this and I always find some way around it. But eventually I'll need to so; how do I add repositories for downloading things?
[06:21] <zero88> had3l why you need network manager for? are you trying to search for your wireless access point?
[06:21] <robert_> zero88: I get the same thing
[06:22] <Had3l> yes
[06:22] <Toma-> TaJMoX: for gnome? hmm. not sure if there is one
[06:22] <zero88> robert_ are you trying to do something to files? if so you have to set the permissions on the files.what are you trying to do
[06:22] <GauntletWizard> Anyone know about setting up tablet PCs?
[06:22] <TaJMoX> Had31 /usr/bin/network-admin
[06:22] <gleesond> for some reason fiesty wont let me load fglrx
[06:22] <zero88> had3l download wifiradar
[06:22] <robert_> it's not me
[06:22] <robert_> it's dhclient3
[06:22] <robert_> and dhclient
[06:22] <robert_> I don't know what they're doing
[06:23] <dirgedoll> i think its mounted
[06:23] <pyrak> how do i open up a .conf file with write access?
[06:23] <_goofy_> anyone know anything about mythtv
[06:23] <zero88> had3l download wifi-radar and kwifimanager
[06:23] <TaJMoX> shinichizio its in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <zero88> robert_ oh..hm. im not sure what to do then
[06:23] <Had3l> Yeah, problem is I'm trying to connect to the wireless so that I can get to the internet :(
[06:23] <TaJMoX> pyrak: gksudo gedit (name of file)
[06:23] <pyrak> TajMoX
[06:24] <pyrak> ty
[06:24] <TaJMoX> yw
[06:24] <zero88> had3l are you on the computer you are trying to get to the internet?
[06:24] <pyrak> so gksudo is for opening programs?
[06:24] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: Thanks muchly. But something I'm not sure about; is it better to add something to a repository and apt-get it than compile a tarball? Or can you not just apt-get everything?
[06:24] <kneeki> xtknight: Think its a good idea for me to use http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL_and_ATI <- that tutorial to get the drivers for my system?
[06:24] <TaJMoX> had31 : connect thru a wire and install the stuff you need
[06:24] <Had3l> Yeah I'll try that, so what do I need again? Wifi-Radar and Kwifimanager?
[06:25] <TaJMoX> shinichizio its better to use apt
[06:25] <zero88> yes
[06:25] <TaJMoX> shinichizio that way ouo get all the dependencies and youo can also removoe it when i need to
[06:25] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: Okay, thanks.
[06:27] <TaJMoX> shinichizio remember to do apt-get update after you edit sources.list      and always backup everything in /etc that you edit
[06:27] <jtt> pyrak:  sudo vi  filename.conf
[06:27] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: Okay. Thank you. Now, as far as adding things from specific pages, do I just throw the URL in the list?
[06:28] <Andiez> Yo wasup
[06:29] <TaJMoX> shinichizio the web page will provide youo with their debian source url ( starts with "deb " )
[06:29] <Andiez> Mhmm
[06:29] <robert_> http://rafb.net/p/EoVmLI36.html <-- this is what I get
[06:29] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: Er. Where would that be exactly?
[06:29] <Andiez> Pretty much
[06:30] <TaJMoX> shinichizio : what are you trying to add to your apt
[06:30] <Andiez> Your sister
[06:30] <bullgard4> Some programs (e. g. Evolution, Pan) which use Gnome show the date as 'yesterday'. How can I change that to 2007-04-12 or similar?
[06:30] <TaJMoX> oO
[06:30] <TaJMoX> thats ez
[06:30] <zero88> lol
[06:30] <jskulski> is anyone familiar with the rt61 driver? the driver is loaded ok, and i had entered the information in the network manager and iwconfig gives the right SSID and all that. iwpriv does not seem to want to change anything
[06:30] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: A game. (Insert dramatic music, thunder) It's Gearhead Arena.
[06:30] <Andiez> Nope
[06:31] <plabridge> whats new in feasty?
[06:31] <TaJMoX> bullgard4 : right click on the clock and select "Adjust date & Time"
[06:31] <zero88> jskulski do u get signal status?
[06:31] <peptobismal> how do i turn off x server to install nvidia drivers?
[06:32] <GauntletWizard> How do I upgrade from breezy to a newer version, without a CD-drive?
[06:32] <jskulski> zero88:  not sure how you test that, but dhclient wlan0 seems like its communicating something.
[06:32] <plabridge> O imma smoke some marijuana and go watch seinfeld
[06:32] <Toma-> peptobismal: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:32] <peptobismal> thankyou
[06:32] <Toma-> peptobismal: id recommend using a guide...
[06:33] <zero88> jskulski do you see the computer monitors in the top right? are they blinking at all?
[06:33] <TaJMoX> shinichizio they dont offer an official debian package - you'll have to install from the tar file or find a debian package from somewhere on the interweb
[06:33] <jskulski> zero88:  nothing on my bar
[06:33] <zxul767> GauntletWizard, you can type in the terminal update-manager -d
[06:33] <zxul767> that should show you any possible upgrades
[06:34] <robert_> zero88: http://rafb.net/p/EoVmLI36.html <-- this is what I get
[06:34] <fiction> Hi. how do login from a cli
[06:34] <valehru_> Is there a reason why my ssh server is very slow to log into?  Its on the same lan.  It takes about 5-10 seconds to get a password confirmation prompt.
[06:34] <fiction> aka, not start x automatically
[06:34] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: D: Bawh. Well. I don't think they'll have a debian package anywhere, but thanks for the help. So it's not ALWAYS possible to add something via apt-get then.
[06:35] <zero88> jskulski oh. go to system>admin>networking
[06:35] <bullgard4> TaJMoX: I think you misunderstood. I cannot change the time format displayed using the method you suggested.
[06:35] <TaJMoX> shinichizio gearhead is in the ubuntu repositories - is that different than gearhead arena ?
[06:35] <zero88> jskulski under network settings.click on the dns tab
[06:36] <zero88> robert_ ya im sorry.im not really familiar with dhclient
[06:36] <amicrawler> were is my trash can ?
[06:36] <fiery_cleric> nice
[06:36] <robert_> is there any way i can figure out what's going fubar with my network on that box?
[06:36] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: Maybe. o_o; How do I apt-get that?
[06:36] <TaJMoX> shinichizio - apt uses dkpg which is deb.  tar.gz is just a generic pre-compiled binary or source for any linux distrobution
[06:37] <zero88> robert_ probably google or if anyone in here can help
[06:37] <TaJMoX> shinichizio sudo apt-get install gearhead
[06:37] <jskulski> zero88: nothing in dns. dhclient wlan0 gives no DHCPOFFERS. in the rt61 faq, it says to use iwpriv but that doesn't seem to want to work either
[06:37] <TaJMoX> shinichizio : did you enable all the ubuntu repositories in synaptic?
[06:37] <kneeki> Anyone know how I can go about getting the error: '.: 106: Can't open /etc/profile' to go away? It occurs when I login
[06:37] <zero88> jskulski is you wireless on eth1 eth0 or what?
[06:37] <jskulski> wlan0
[06:38] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: I have no idea. How do I do that? And can I check to see what this 'gearhead' is before I download it?
[06:38] <TaJMoX> kneeki : does the file exist?   does it have the correct permissions for your user to read it ?
[06:38] <jskulski> i am doing this weird rt61 driver which apparently has some subtleties to it
[06:38] <jskulski> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132980
[06:38] <zero88> jskulski try  sudo ifdown wlan0   then sudo ifup wlan0
[06:38] <jskulski> not configured
[06:38] <kneeki> TaJMoX: I have no idea. Is there a terminal command I can use to create the file?
[06:39] <TaJMoX> shinichizio apt-cache search gearhead
[06:39] <zero88> jskulski hmmm.how did u load the drivers?
[06:39] <wilo> is it possible to customise your login screen in ubuntu 6.10?
[06:39] <jskulski> says to avoid the networking interface or else it will lock up.
[06:39] <fiction> aka, not start x automatically
[06:39] <TaJMoX> shinichizio or go into synaptic and search for it
[06:39] <zero88> wilo yes
[06:39] <wilo> if so how would you go about such a thing?
[06:39] <fiction> opos
[06:39] <jskulski> zero88: well I'm pretty sure tey were pre loaded. 6.10
[06:39] <zxul767> TajMox use touch file
[06:39] <jskulski> there is a kernel driver already
[06:39] <TaJMoX> kneeki : ls -l /etc/profile
[06:39] <fiction> Hi. how do login from a cli....aka not have X start automatically at login
[06:39] <ShoyuRamen> kneeki, touch file
[06:39] <red22> what is the web page that shows the development status of the coming release pls?  i've checked it b4 but can't find it now..
[06:39] <TaJMoX> kneeki that will show u if the file exists and what permissions it has
[06:40] <wilo> zero88: how would you go about modification, and wat midifications and methods are involved with login session modding?
[06:40] <kneeki> ShoyuRamen: Huh?
[06:40] <jskulski> btu I was playing around with it on the live cd to try to get it to work, does the installer copy over drivers that you install in the live cd?
[06:40] <zero88> jskulski hmmm.what does  ifconfig   show you.paste it in the pastebin
[06:40] <zero88> wilo go to  system>admin>login window
[06:40] <kneeki> TaJMoX: Typed it, and it says: '--rw------- 1 root root 369 2007-04-12 20:19 /etc/profile
[06:40] <Derek_Russo> Hi, does anyone know if Kopete can work on Ubuntu with Gnome running?
[06:40] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: I didn't find it in synaptic. How do I enable everything? Sorry to ask all these dumb questions
[06:40] <fiction> Derek, im on gnome now
[06:40] <fiction> i can find out for you
[06:41] <zxul767> Derek_Russo, yes it works
[06:41] <Derek_Russo> fiction: thanks, I'm new to linux so I couldn't figure out how to do it
[06:41] <ShoyuRamen> kneeki, create a empty file type: touch file
[06:41] <fiery_cleric> kneeki: chmod 666 /etc/profile
[06:41] <Rio1979> damn, windows is so frustrating
[06:41] <fiction> yes it works
[06:41] <Derek_Russo> I tried installing it and it said I was missing some KDE thing
[06:41] <TaJMoX> kneeki : chmod 644 /etc/profile
[06:41] <zero88> jskulski yes
[06:41] <Derek_Russo> fiction: could you give me some help on how to install it?
[06:41] <fiction> Says here it's supported, but i'm not going to install =] 
[06:41] <fiction> Derek_Russo: are you on gnome?
[06:41] <Derek_Russo> fiction: yes
[06:41] <TaJMoX> firery should that file have write access by all ?
[06:41] <kneeki> fiery_cleric: operation not permitted. think i godda do it as sudo?
[06:41] <jskulski> zero88: oh maybe then its incomplete. let me try to install the drivers again
[06:41] <fiction> Go to System -> Administration -> Syanptic Package Manager
[06:41] <TaJMoX> kneeki : yes
[06:42] <zxul767> Derek, it works, I'm using it right now and I'm using gnome
[06:42] <kneeki> ShoyuRamen: Oh, I see. However, the file already exists =)
[06:42] <fiery_cleric> kneeki: what TaJMoX said sudo chmod 644 /etc/profile
[06:42] <TaJMoX> kneeki : and try 644 not 666
[06:42] <zero88> jskulski ok and in the network settings, did u see a wireless connection?
[06:42] <kneeki> oh, ok
[06:42] <Derek_Russo> fiction: ok, I"m in the packet manager
[06:42] <jskulski> zero88: not a great way for me to paste (on a different non networked computer), anything you're interested in? wlan0 has a hwaddr and all
[06:42] <fiction> Derek_Russo: Then when you're there, just click "search" and type "kopete" :)
[06:42] <Derek_Russo> package^
[06:42] <kneeki> done, and done.
[06:42] <Derek_Russo> oh wow, that's a lot easier than what I was doing, heh
[06:42] <kneeki> lemme restart x server to see if it worked =\
[06:42] <Gokul> the ubuntu upgrade guide recommends removing xscreensaver before upgrading and making sure ubuntu-desktop is installed, but i can't remove one without removing the other nor can i install one without installing the other, can someone please help me?
[06:42] <fiction> Derek_Russo: Then, you right click it, and select "mark for installation", then click "apply"
[06:42] <jskulski> zero88: yeah there's two actually wlan0 and wmaster0. wlan0 has a hw addr and wmaster0 does not. but wmaster0 has nothing to offer in the iwpriv.
[06:42] <Derek_Russo> fiction: I was trying to compile it
[06:42] <kneeki> WOOT!
[06:43] <kneeki> IT WORKED =D
[06:43] <TaJMoX> gratz
[06:43] <fiction> Derek_Russo: synaptic will do it for you
[06:43] <kneeki> drop your pants guys, I wanna bear your children
[06:43] <TaJMoX> pass
[06:43] <fiction> Derek_Russo: before compiling your own, search for it in synaptic
[06:43] <kneeki> now, to see if direct rendering is working
[06:43] <Madpilot> Gokul, you need ubuntu-desktop installed before upgrading, or upgrading will go badly.
[06:43] <kneeki> lol, nope
[06:43] <Derek_Russo> fiction: why do I have to insert my ubuntu disk to install it?
[06:43] <kneeki> still not working
[06:44] <kneeki> and OpenGL still using Mesa
[06:44] <Pelo> Madpilot, do you mean the meta package or the content ?
[06:44] <jskulski> zero88: the guide i am working off of is from jan06 though. =\
[06:44] <jskulski> =\
[06:44] <fiery_cleric> kneeki: what videocard u got
[06:44] <Gokul> Madpilot: yeah, but the upgrade also insists on removing xscreesaver, but i can;t without also removing ubuntu-desktop
[06:44] <kneeki> fiery_cleric: ATI x1600
[06:44] <Madpilot> Pelo, the meta-package
[06:44] <Gokul> how do i remove only xscreesaver?
[06:44] <Pelo> that might explain my problems
[06:44] <green> gow do i install a package from the desktop?
[06:44] <Derek_Russo> kneeki: I had to go to Radeon's website and install their driver package
[06:45] <green> how
[06:45] <fiery_cleric> !fglrx
[06:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:45] <fiction> Derek_Russo: you don't
[06:45] <Derek_Russo> kneeki: I couldn't get the install from the fglrx to work
[06:45] <zero88> jskulski hm could be out of date.but if you say the drivers are already preloaded for 6.10 you shouldnt have to load them.just type in the WEP esid and you should be good
[06:45] <Pelo> green, do you mean you downloaded a deb file ?
[06:45] <kneeki> Derek_Russo: I've tried that already. So many headaches from that package
[06:45] <Gokul> Madpilot: how do i remove only xscreesaver without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[06:45] <zero88> jskulski so you configured the wireless connection?
[06:45] <Derek_Russo> kneeki: the one that has the gui installer?
[06:45] <fiction> Derek_Russo: from a terminal, type "sudo apt-get install kopete"
[06:45] <kneeki> yep
[06:45] <Madpilot> Gokul, I'm not sure, but the upgrader should remove xscreensaver for  you. Ubuntu is using gnome-screensaver now
[06:45] <TaJMoX> green System->Administration->Synaptic         or if you have the .deb package - just double click it
[06:45] <green> its a .ta.gz filer
[06:46] <green> tar.gz
[06:46] <Pelo> green  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[06:46] <green> ty
[06:46] <kneeki> fiery_cleric: looking over that link now... But I think i've tried this already
[06:46] <red22> fiction you still looking to boot to non-graphical?
[06:46] <Gokul> the update-manger fails with some "unresolvale error"
[06:46] <Pelo> green bookmark it,  it is very usefull
[06:46] <fiction> red22: yes
[06:46] <Gokul> Madpilot: the update-manger fails with some "unresolvale error"
[06:46] <red22> fiction: in /etc/inittab, find the line similar to this "id:5:initdefault:" and change the 5 to a 3
[06:46] <fiery_cleric> kneeki: ive not done it in a while .... plus i am still on dapper so cant really help
[06:46] <jskulski> zero88:  yeah through the network manager. it says in this guide that the drivers come with it but need the firmware, i'm gonna try that. even though its from 6.06
[06:46] <Madpilot> Gokul, is this Edgy->Feisty?
[06:46] <kneeki> fiery: ahh
[06:46] <Gokul> Madpilot:  Can't mark 'ubuntu-desktop' for upgrade (E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.)
[06:47] <red22> fiction: that should be all you need
[06:47] <fiction> red22: Thanks a bunch
[06:47] <TaJMoX> green : tar.gz is like a zip file     you extract it first
[06:47] <fiction> gonna restart to check. be back
[06:47] <Gokul> Madpilot: no, breezy to dapper
[06:47] <red22> no prob, glad to help
[06:47] <jskulski> somewho does not have a rt61 wireless card: could you see if rt61pci.ko is in your `uname -a`/drivers/net/wireless dir
[06:47] <Madpilot> Gokul, odd. OTOH, the Breezy->Dapper upgrade broke horribly for me, forcing a reinstall... I'm hardly an expert.
[06:48] <jskulski> if it's stock with 6.10
[06:48] <fiction> crap. red22, say that again please?
[06:48] <fiction> in /etc...
[06:48] <TaJMoX> fiction: in /etc/inittab, find the line similar to this "id:5:initdefault:" and change the 5 to a 3
[06:48] <red22> anyone know the page addy for the development status of the next release pls?
[06:48] <fiery_cleric> jskulski: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/rt61pci.ko thats on my system
[06:48] <fiction> red22: thank you
[06:48] <jskulski> ok thanks
[06:49] <red22> np man
[06:49] <jskulski> i think i need the firmware then
[06:49] <mykhul> can anyone recommend a very large external usb flash drive?
[06:49] <Madpilot> red22, ask in #ubuntu+1 for 7.04 questions
[06:49] <getoo> i need a little help with apache
[06:49] <getoo> what file do i have to config
[06:49] <jikanter> getoo, what's up?
[06:49] <getoo> for it to work
[06:50] <red22> madpilot right i keep forgetting about that channel ty
[06:50] <getoo> jikanter: it opens on my browseer
[06:50] <Derek_Russo> I'm having a very weird problem when I play DVDs.  I play the dvd, and periodically, seemingly at random, the screen goes black for a few seconds
[06:50] <jikanter> /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[06:50] <getoo> but from outside refuses connection
[06:50] <Derek_Russo> thed vd keeps playing, sound keeps going, and it comes back without me touching anything
[06:50] <fiction> red22: there is no file inittab in my /etc/ folder
[06:50] <getoo> jikanter: i looked that file up
[06:50] <getoo> but dont know where to touch it
[06:50] <jikanter> ok, getoo, sounds like dns....
[06:50] <jikanter> getoo, how are you trying to access it from the outside?
[06:51] <getoo> jikanter: http://yooo.mine.nu/~monalisa/
[06:51] <getoo> i ask peeps
[06:51] <getoo> :D
[06:51] <jskulski> wow this is the first nerd night i've had in a while :D
[06:51] <fiction> red22: you there? =(
[06:51] <red22> fiction: hm mostly familiar with other distro. lemme see where ubuntu keeps it..
[06:51] <fiction> i just did a search
[06:51] <red22> nothing?
[06:51] <fiction> /usr/share/ubuntudocs...
[06:52] <red22> no if it's in docs it won't work most probably
[06:52] <fiction> red22:  but it's called inittab_disablectrlaltdelconsole
[06:52] <jikanter> getoo: here is a little trick.... type in "whois <domain>", where <domain> is the domain you want
[06:52] <fiery_cleric> getoo: firewalled?
[06:52] <red22> do man for it and see what it says
[06:53] <pluma> Does anybody know where I can find a list of all the defined glyph names X11 knows?
[06:53] <red22> i'm not running ubuntu right now
[06:53] <jikanter> getoo: make sure that is ok before you check the firewall
[06:53] <getoo> fiery_cleric: yes
[06:53] <getoo> try it again please
[06:53] <fiery_cleric> getoo: i can ping it
[06:53] <getoo> i took the firewall out
[06:53] <getoo> thanx
[06:53] <zYe_> how can i logo onto the root account on my log-on screen in feisty?
[06:53] <jikanter> getoo: your up!
[06:53] <getoo> i had hte firewall on
[06:53] <fiery_cleric> getoo: its working
[06:53] <jikanter> right on
[06:53] <getoo> jikanter: thanx
[06:53] <getoo> thanx guys
[06:54] <jikanter> it was fiery_cleric, thank him
[06:54] <fiery_cleric> no problem
[06:54] <getoo> what file should i edit on lokkit
[06:54] <getoo> so i have the port open for the website
[06:54] <jikanter> ummm, not sure
[06:54] <fiery_cleric> what firewall arre u using?
[06:55] <getoo> lokkit
[06:55] <getoo> i'll google it
[06:55] <zYe_> does anyones screen actually "scroll" in feisty?
[06:55] <getoo> thanx guys
[06:55] <fiery_cleric> getoo: ah ok i dont know
[06:56] <red22> fiction: it seems ubuntu 6.10 and later stopped using inittab in favor of "upstart" .. i'll see if i can find how to do it on that.
[06:56] <getoo> hmm it looks like i might have to install a diff firewall , this one has no config file
[06:57] <Toma-> red22: actually, init-ng is a better solution that upstart, imho.
[06:58] <wilo> Pelo: hello!
[06:58] <kyoto> hi
[06:58] <red22> toma: i have no idea, but ubuntu seems to use upstart as it comes
[06:59] <Pelo> good evening wilo
[06:59] <Cosmo_>  this driving me crazy , I installed the drivers for my brother 1840c printer but it is still not bringing up my printer drivers as an option when I try to add a printer
[06:59] <wilo> Pelo: good evening to you too
[06:59] <wilo> zero88 was givin me a tut on customising my splash screen
[06:59] <Toma-> red22: yep, but for pre-6.10 systems, i used init-ng and it went really well
[06:59] <wilo> ubuntu edgy 6.10 comes default askde as the windows manager hey?
[06:59] <JJ|Laptop> does anyone know if nwn runs on ubuntu?
[07:00] <Toma-> wilo: no, kubuntu does tho
[07:00] <Pelo> JJ|Laptop,  what is nwn ?
[07:00] <JJ|Laptop> never winter nights
[07:00] <Pelo> JJ|Laptop,  a game ?
[07:00] <WaxyFresh> is there a way to update my sources.list form a command line?
[07:01] <eck> Toma-: init-ng isn't a better solution per se, the two operate on different principles
[07:01] <red22> toma: user "fiction" is trying to startup ubuntu to a command line (non graphical) login.  you know how to do that with upstart? i only know via inittab..
[07:01] <Pelo> WaxyFresh,  not the source list but the packages in the repos yes
[07:01] <eck> upstart is a lot more flexible for one thing
[07:02] <Pelo> WaxyFresh,  sudo apt-get update  and sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:02] <WaxyFresh> dose anyone know what irc net thee_vortex is on?
[07:02] <shinichizio> Is it possible to compile from a zip?
[07:02] <Pelo> shinichizio, http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[07:02] <WaxyFresh> Pelo, but will apt-get upgrade work without the sources.list being upto date?
[07:02] <eck> shinichizio: if there is source code in it...
[07:02] <JJ|Laptop> Pelo: yeah but there's a linux version of it, i think
[07:02] <shinichizio> I see, thanks
[07:02] <billy> what directory does thunderbird keep emails in?
[07:02] <Toma-> red22: disable gdm at boot should stop it
[07:03] <red22> how/where?
[07:03] <eck> billy: iirc, ~/.mozilla/thunderbird/something
[07:03] <wilo> Toma- or Pelo, can i make my own custom splash screen/login?
[07:03] <Toma-> eck: its alot faster than upstart ;)
[07:03] <WaxyFresh> wilo, yes
[07:03] <Toma-> wilo: yep
[07:03] <billy> eck: thank you.
[07:03] <Pelo> WaxyFresh,  sources.list is only a list of repositories,   sudo apt-get update will update the list of packages from those repos and sudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade packages that have newer versions
[07:03] <wilo> anyone know any good tuts or how to's to follwo from
[07:04] <eck> Toma-: yes, because init-ng is designed to be fast. upstart isn't designed to get your sytem up as quickly as possible, it is designed to be event driven
[07:04] <Pelo> JJ|Laptop,  if there is a linux version you can install it,  look for a deb package if not compile it from source
[07:04] <Pelo> wilo,  probably but dont, ask me how
[07:04] <fiction> How does ubuntu know which programs to launch at start up?
[07:04] <WaxyFresh> Pelo, but dont you need specific repos?like if im on dapper and i want to upgrade to fiesty dont i have to delete the dapper repos and add fiesty  ones?
[07:04] <Pelo> fiction,   menu > system > prefs > sessions
[07:04] <Toma-> eck: you still get to set dependencies in init-ng. its just a totally different system to init, so its hard to migrate to
[07:04] <eck> e.g. you can have services start/stop when certain events happen, rather than just when you cahnge run levels
[07:05] <fiction> Pelo: I don't see X in there though
[07:05] <Pelo> !upgrade | WaxyFresh
[07:05] <ubotu> WaxyFresh: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:05] <eck> no, upstart is more than just dependency based -- the old sysv init is also dependency based
[07:05] <Derek_Russo> Does anyone have any idea what could cause my video playback problem where the screen periodically goes black for a few seconds?
[07:05] <Brylie> what is the word for the hooded garment that death wears?
[07:05] <jimb0> stupid question: if i run beta 7.04 and a non-beta eventually comes out, will i need to re-install with the new beta or will my apt-get update or whatever take care of updating the core files?
[07:05] <jimb0> new non-beta*
[07:05] <Pelo> ficton you need to load X , I'm not sure where that would be,  sessions is for user progs
[07:05] <Pelo> fiction,  check the forum
[07:05] <Toma-> jimb0: apt-get will sort it out, but its alot better to start with a fresh install of the final
[07:06] <jimb0> that sucks
[07:06] <jimb0> because it takes me forever to get stuff how i like it :~(
[07:06] <Toma-> jimb0: patience pays off :)
[07:06] <fiction> Pelo: thanks
[07:06] <jimb0> i like the beta 7.04 though
[07:06] <WaxyFresh> Pelo, im already on fiesty im just wondering,i want to switch to command line and use my browser as little as possible,im also tired of always cut/pasteing form source-o-matic
[07:06] <jimb0> i havent found any real issues with it at all yet
[07:06] <kneeki> Ugh
[07:06] <kneeki> If my system locks up while playing a game, is there a way to make it not locked?
[07:06] <kneeki> w/o hitting the restart button
[07:06] <red22> fiction: it's handled by "upstart" events.. see /etc/event.d  but i'm sure there should be a graphical front end to it
[07:07] <Toma-> jimb0: well install it, and enjoy it! its just better for new users to have a nice clean system, to avoid any major hassles and problems later
[07:07] <LaloxD> ehmmm
[07:07] <fiction> aye
[07:07] <eck> Toma-: upstart is supposed to do what launchd does in os x right now (actually it has more capabilites than launchd), but most of its functionality is not presently used -- apparently that will change in later releases
[07:07] <blackerch> i nned some help some one
[07:07] <Toma-> eck: ahh right
[07:07] <Pelo> WaxyFresh,  I've never used source-o-matic , so I don'T know,  if you are already on feisty the repos should have been properly modified for feisty packages,  don't go messing with them
[07:07] <kneeki> anyone?
[07:08] <Pelo> kneeki,  windows games running on wine ?
[07:08] <WaxyFresh> kneeki, i use yakuake its a command line that drops down from you menu bar when you press a button form there you can type "top" then K for kill then locate the process id and a kill number
[07:08] <kneeki> Pelo, on Cedega atm
[07:08] <shinichizio> How do I compile stuff!? ./configure is refusing to work for some bizarre reason
[07:08] <blackerch> i just install ubuntu and every thing is working expect the wireless internet
[07:08] <Pelo> kneeki,  ask in a ceedega channel
[07:08] <fiery_cleric> kneeki try ctrl-alt-backspace to kill the xserver
[07:08] <Toma-> shinichizio: what are you trying to compile? compiling is more for advanced users...
[07:08] <blackerch> what do i have to do it get it working
[07:08] <kneeki> fiery: tried that =\
[07:08] <nenyalorien> hi
[07:08] <kneeki> I cannot even CTRL ALT F1
[07:08] <nenyalorien> i know that this must be downright idiotic
[07:08] <kneeki> d'oh
[07:08] <Pelo> shinichizio,  all the compiling / installing instructions you want are here  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[07:08] <nenyalorien> but may is ask how to log into root?
[07:08] <WaxyFresh> kneeki, you can bring yourself back to the login screen by typeing ctrl alt backspace,
[07:09] <WaxyFresh> it restarts xorg
[07:09] <nenyalorien> i need to reformat my windows partitions
[07:09] <blackerch> hello
[07:09] <kneeki> Waxy: tried it already. Not working =\
[07:09] <shinichizio> Pelo: No they're not. Toma-: A game. It's kind of in a .zip, but I've been assured it's the source.
[07:09] <nenyalorien> to turn them into linux partitions
[07:09] <eck> nenyalorien: run the commands with sudo, or run sudo -i to get a root shell
[07:09] <kneeki> reboot button ftl =\
[07:09] <WaxyFresh> nenyalorien,  sudo -su
[07:09] <Pelo> nenyalorien,   just run your root commands starthing with sudo , as in  :  sudo apt-get install ...
[07:09] <fiery_cleric> kneeki: ssh/or telnet in from another machine?
[07:09] <nenyalorien> um,
[07:09] <WaxyFresh> nenyalorien, or listen to pelo and type sudo before your comand
[07:10] <nenyalorien> i actually wanna use qtparted
[07:10] <Toma-> shinichizio: what game? you need to install alot of -dev packages
[07:10] <Pelo> shinichizio,   unpack it and use the rest of the insttructijons for  tar.gz
[07:10] <nenyalorien> so i just wanna be in root
[07:10] <jskulski> well shit.
[07:10] <nenyalorien> so if i use the sudo -i
[07:10] <jskulski> does nayone have any experience with rt61 driver?
[07:10] <patattac1> I have a program that would not install properly and now everytime I add/remove programs, it tries again...
[07:10] <nenyalorien> will that give me root access on qtparted?
[07:10] <kneeki> fiery: do you have any idea why it would take like, 4 or 5 minutes to boot into ubuntu?
[07:10] <eck> nenyalorien: yes, that will run a root login shell
[07:10] <Pelo> nenyalorien,  that is very silly ,  you donT' want to work as root, you are making your system vulmerable
[07:10] <nenyalorien> ok thank you so much everyone
[07:10] <shinichizio> Toma-: Gearhead Arena. Pelo: At the point where it says 'use ./configure when in the right folder', I use ./configure and it says 'No such file or directory'.
[07:10] <kneeki> Sometimes my PC just locks up at the booting screen w/ only a sliver in the progress bar
[07:11] <eck> if you just want to run a graphical app you can just run gksudo (or whatever the kde equivalent is), you don't need a shell
[07:11] <nenyalorien> i need to partition my formerly windows hard drive pelo
[07:11] <WaxyFresh> nenyalorien, i prefer sudo -su but some people dont because its a security issue
[07:11] <stepanstas> A lot of the things on my toolbars are not loading up and i'm getting an error
[07:11] <nenyalorien> that will only be a temporary thing
[07:11] <fiery_cleric> kneeki: it might be doing a filesystem check.... or maybe timing out on a network operation?
[07:11] <Toma-> shinichizio: sounds like you might need to run ./autogen.sh
[07:11] <kneeki> And when it does finally boot, I have to restart anyway, because my USB ports stop working =\
[07:11] <nenyalorien> anyway what's the diff bet sudo -su and sudo -i?
[07:11] <kneeki> Hmm, could be
[07:11] <nenyalorien> i'm not really expecting hackers you know
[07:11] <nenyalorien> :D
[07:11] <fiery_cleric> kneeki: boot into safe mode or what ever its called
[07:11] <shinichizio> Toma-: What is ./autogen.sh, and why does it give me 'no such file or directory'?
[07:11] <Pelo> shinichizio,  unpack your zip file ,   cd to the folder for the unpacked files,  then   ./configure,  if you can't run ./configure  , go to synaptic and install build-essential
[07:12] <kneeki> firey: well, it only happens like 3 out of 10 times
[07:12] <Pelo> shinichizio,  install build-essential
[07:12] <Derek_Russo> does anyone have any ideas to help me fix my video playback problem wehre the screen periodicallyi goes black for a few seconds?
[07:12] <Toma-> shinichizio: right you dont have it then. are you running all this from within the directory you extracted into?
[07:12] <shinichizio> Pelo: I could swear I installed that already. D: Might as well check. Toma-: Yes.
[07:12] <eck> shinichizio: autogen.sh is if you need to generate your own configure script...
[07:12] <stepanstas> A lot of the items on my panels are not loading up and i am getting errors.
[07:13] <shinichizio> Pelo: Yeah, I've already installed build-essential. It's right there.
[07:13] <fiery_cleric> kneeki: after its booted use dmesg  to see whats been happening during boot
[07:13] <InnerFIRE> anyone have a good manual for wine?
[07:13] <InnerFIRE> i never get anything to run with that thing
[07:13] <kneeki> fiery: okay
[07:13] <Toma-> shinichizio: you have a zip file you say?
[07:13] <Pelo> shinichizio,  check your unpacked files for a readme or an install for instructions
[07:13] <eck> shinichizio: read the install/readme file that came with the code, it will tell you how to build it
[07:14] <shinichizio> Toma-: Yes, it was a zip. Pelo and eck: I am a giant fool for not doing that. Sorry
[07:14] <Toma-> shinichizio: you have the wrong package.
[07:14] <Toma-> shinichizio: youll need http://gearhead.roguelikedevelopment.org/gh-0904-linux.tar.gz
[07:14] <Toma-> not the windows version.
[07:14] <shinichizio> Toma-: Er, wow. I somehow managed to not find that. Thank you.
[07:15] <Toma-> np ;)
[07:15] <shinichizio> Where was that!?
[07:15] <Toma-> shinichizio: http://www.geocities.com/pyrrho12/programming/gearhead/index.html
[07:15] <stepanstas> I'm getting an "The panel encountered a problem while loading" error
[07:15] <Toma-> 'Linux DL'
[07:15] <Pelo> stephan while loading what ?
[07:15] <Pelo> stephanstas  while loading what ?
[07:15] <shinichizio> Toma-: Well, that's an old version, but I'll take it. No build < old build
[07:16] <stepanstas> Pelo, on start up, i get these errors and not all things on my panels load up
[07:16] <stepanstas> Pelo, i get 5 errors
[07:16] <Toma-> shinichizio: alternatively, you could try running the windows version in wine
[07:16] <Pelo> stepanstas,   did you install some extras before you updated ? make sure they are still installed
[07:17] <zzz_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fglrxinfo
[07:17] <zzz_> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[07:17] <zzz_> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[07:17] <zzz_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:17] <Pelo> stepanstas,  which applets are not loadingi,  does the error msg tell you which one ?
[07:17] <zzz_> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[07:17] <Toma-> !ops
[07:17] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[07:17] <zzz_> help me!
[07:17] <Shaba1> hello all
[07:17] <Madpilot> Toma-, hm?
[07:17] <Toma-> sorry
[07:17] <stepanstas> Pelo, the last thing i remember uninstalling was totem player
[07:17] <Toma-> i felt a whole glxinfo pate coming :(
[07:17] <Pelo> zzz_,  pasting stuff randomly will not allow us to help you, state your problem verbaly thank you
[07:18] <stepanstas> Pelo, yes ill paste bin it
[07:18] <shinichizio> Toma-: Ohgod, wine. D: I've tried messing with that and I can't summon up the patience right now. But, thank you for the help and all. orz
[07:18] <Madpilot> Toma-, nah, glxinfo is short. it's when people try to paste xorg.conf that you need to yell for help :)
[07:18] <Toma-> <:)
[07:18] <InnerFIRE> anyone have a good manual for wine?
[07:19] <Toma-> thats good... ask a question, quit 3 seconds later
[07:19] <Shaba1> :) Toma-
[07:20] <Shaba1> Hey anyone here subscribe to techRepublick?
[07:20] <Pelo> Toma-,  you snooze you loose, you can'T expect busy ppl to wait around for us to help them , they have stuff to do
[07:20] <Shaba1> TechRepublic that is
[07:20] <Shaba1> its and online techie magazine/blog/forum/article site
[07:20] <Derek_Russo> Does anyone here use Kopete?
[07:20] <Shaba1> I guess there are lot of people posting in the linux forums
[07:21] <Toma-> Derek_Russo: yes
[07:21] <Derek_Russo> Toma-: is there any way to get the gaim behavior where when you get a message and you're on anotehr desktop, it shows up in the task bar, but when you click it, it brings you to the desktop the chat is on?
[07:21] <Toma-> Derek_Russo: not sure, i dont use it :)
[07:21] <Shaba1> and one columnist blames the simplicity of the post or repeated post on people using ubuntu and ocming over to linux from windows
[07:21] <Derek_Russo> you don't use what, Toma-?
[07:21] <stepanstas> Pelo, i took an image of the 5 errors, instead of pastebinning http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotlv1.png
[07:21] <Toma-> Derek_Russo: kopete
[07:22] <Toma-> Derek_Russo: for more KDE specific questions, id try #kubuntu or even #kopete
[07:22] <naknomik> I'm trying feisty with beryl and compiz and the window manager keeps dying. How do I debug this?
[07:22] <fiction> It's impossible
[07:22] <Derek_Russo> Toma-: I'm not using KDE, I'm running kopete on top of Gnome
[07:22] <jskulski> if anyone can answer my post now, i'd be super happy. just in case anyone is board heh http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2445090#post2445090
[07:22] <Pelo> stepanstas,   sudo apt-get install gnome-applets gnome-applets-data
[07:23] <jskulski> if not I'm going to be off to bed in a bit
[07:23] <Pelo> stepanstas,  thats should solve your problem
[07:23] <Madpilot> Shaba1, so, luring people away from Windows to the Light Side is a problem, somehow?
[07:24] <Shaba1> Just commenting
[07:24] <Shaba1> or wondering if anyone had seen it
[07:25] <stepanstas> Pelo, would a restart be needed?
[07:25] <jskulski> alright then good night folks
[07:26] <Pelo> stepanstas,  at least restart X  crtl+alt+backspace
[07:26] <RavenmoR> hi, people. Ubuntu 6.10 port 22 is closed. How to open?
[07:26] <fiction> How do i make it so X server doesn't start at login? i need to login from a cli
[07:27] <Toma-> fiction: tried disabling gdm at startup?
[07:28] <robby> hey does anyone know if there is a free program like wine in that it can run exes?
[07:28] <Toma-> robby: wine
[07:28] <lnostdal> wine runs exes
[07:28] <Madpilot> robby, wine is free
[07:28] <stepanstas> Pelo, that did it, thanks a lot
[07:28] <peepsalot_> lol
[07:29] <Pelo> robby,   yeah, it's called wine and it is free   www.winehq.org
[07:29] <robby> wait its free?
[07:29] <robby> i thought it cost money?
[07:29] <Toma-> !wine
[07:29] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:29] <stepanstas> Pelo, ;)
[07:29] <Madpilot> robby, cedega costs money. wine doesn't.
[07:29] <Toma-> robby: sudo apt-get install wine ..should sort you out
[07:29] <Pelo> stepanstas,  no problem,  you 'd just removed the package that controled the pannel applets
[07:29] <fiction> Toma: no
[07:30] <robby> is there anything like it
[07:30] <stepanstas> Pelo, woops,=-O ill never do that again
[07:30] <robby> can it run games tho?
[07:30] <Derek_Russo> Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this error when I'm playing DVDs where the screen goes black for a few seconds seemingly at random, but comes back on its own?
[07:30] <Pelo> stepanstas,  yes you will,  but now you will pay attention to what you remove
[07:30] <green> im trying to install a package im in its directory make and make install wont work, any suggestions?
[07:30] <Toma-> robby: it can run 'some' games. check your apps/games in http://appdb.winehq.org/
[07:30] <Pelo> robby,   #winehq is a good place to ask about wine
[07:30] <stepanstas> Pelo, That i will do
[07:31] <fiction> Toma-: How?
[07:31] <Toma-> fiction: you can install 'bum' or any other service manager or you can read 'man update-rc.d' and figure it all out
[07:31] <Pelo> green,   did you install build-essential ?  did you run ./configure ,  did you install all the missing dependencies, did you run make first ?
[07:31] <overrider> hello folks, i am in search for a regular updated list of computer parts which i can use for easy parsing. a great example is this -> http://www1.atelco.de/ai/export/Preisliste.txt, which would be perfect, except its all in german. do you know if a computer shop that has a decent price list on his website for reference? thanks guys.
[07:32] <overrider> oops, take away the , from the end of the url
[07:32] <green> build essentual is installed
[07:32] <Pelo> green,  how about the rest of the instructions ?
[07:32] <green> there was no dependencies and no i ran make after i was in the file
[07:33] <Pelo> green,   you need to run ./configure first
[07:33] <green> i did run configure
[07:33] <Pelo> no error messages ?
[07:33] <ZZco> robert_: damnit, get off my nick
[07:33] <green> nope
[07:33] <Pelo> green,  check the unpacked folder for install or readme files and read carefully
[07:34] <Pelo> I'm off to bed,  g'night folks
[07:34] <green> ok
[07:34] <NaT> g'night
[07:35] <naknomik> I'm trying beryl and compiz, but neither works, the window decorations disappear, how do I fix that.
[07:36] <noiesmo> naknomik, what graphics card are you using?
[07:36] <Smark> ok, so im using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, and im having an issue with a cronjob not running for one of my users... its supposed to execute every minute, and if i do the command on my own it works fine, but its either not triggered or it dosnt work when i use conrtab, anyone have an suggestions?
[07:37] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm trying to get kdissert working. I can't enter text. The tutorials say I should just be able to enter text, but I can't. Using Ubuntu 6.10 with kubuntu-desktop installed
[07:38] <naknomik> noiesmo: nvidia Geforce FX 5200
[07:38] <naknomik> noiesmo: I have the nvidia driver installed.
[07:38] <Smark> anyone have any ideas as to why crontab isnt working properly?
[07:38] <noiesmo> naknomik, did you edit your xorg.conf after installing nvidia driver
[07:38] <bigfuzzyjesus> !fsck
[07:39] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[07:39] <naknomik> noiesmo: no, I just tried the System -> Preferences -> Desktop Effects menu.
[07:39] <naknomik> noiesmo: what do I need to change in xorg.conf?
[07:40] <noiesmo> naknomik, i have 6600gt nvidia but this will be ok for fx5200 i will pastebin my xorg.conf
[07:40] <prower> Hello :> Could anyone point me out in the direction of how to get xorg working with the intel i965 video chip?
[07:40] <Derek_Russo> could someone tell me how to install java?
[07:41] <solid_liq> what source do I need to add before I apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade from 6.10 to feisty?
[07:41] <naknomik> noiesmo: Here's my xorg.conf, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15323/
[07:41] <Mr8ones> I setup a Ubuntu server today at work, Im trying to make my spare laptop a Ubuntu server as well. Everything installed fine, then I install ubuntu-desktop (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop) and that finished successfully. Now, when I reboot... it starts up, starts loding the GUI, then as it finishes it just goes to a blank black screen. After a couple of seconds it scans the floppy and cdrom, but no sounds or anything on the screen. Any
[07:41] <Bhaskar> i have 10 .deb package in a single directory, i want to install all simpltaneously what is the command like rpm -ivh *.rpm in fedora
[07:42] <marco_linux> hi
[07:42] <fiction> It's impossible
[07:42] <noiesmo> naknomik, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15324/ mine
[07:42] <fiction> christ i just want to install the nvidia driver and go to bed =[ is that to much
[07:42] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm trying to get kdissert working. I can't enter text. The tutorials say I should just be able to enter text after creating the first object, but I can't. The first object is selected. Using Ubuntu 6.10 with kubuntu-desktop installed
[07:43] <jpraelli> prueba
[07:43] <Mr8ones> if I have ubuntu-desktop, how do I tell it not to boot the the GUI, but to a terminal instead?
[07:43] <noiesmo> naknomik, add lines 95,96,98, 106, 107,108 from mine to yours
[07:43] <solid_liq> !feisty
[07:43] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[07:43] <noiesmo> naknomik, and 97
[07:44] <noiesmo> naknomik, then restart x and it should hopefully work
[07:44] <zues^62> help pleez guys
[07:44] <zues^62> ever since i installed todays updates GAIM keeps crashing im using Ubuntu 6.10
[07:45] <prower> Hmm, no one knows I guess :/
[07:45] <noiesmo> naknomik, also get rid off line 27 in yours comment it out
[07:45] <VTECpwr> anyone get a Creative Xmod to work properly on Edgy?
[07:46] <noiesmo> naknomik, also add line 94 from mine
[07:46] <naknomik> noiesmo: ok, starting from top, 27 commented out.
[07:46] <Derek_Russo> Does anyone here use Kopete on Gnome?
[07:46] <noiesmo> naknomik, yes
[07:47] <VTECpwr> aMSN?
[07:48] <VTECpwr> how u get Kopete to work in Gnome?
[07:48] <VTECpwr> it's KDE
[07:48] <Derek_Russo> just installed it
[07:48] <Derek_Russo> using the package manager
[07:48] <noiesmo> naknomik, add lines 94,95,96,97,98, 106, 107,108 from mine to yours
[07:48] <Derek_Russo> but I'm trying to emulate one thing I liked from gaim and I can't seem to do it
[07:49] <VTECpwr> oh I didn't know you could use something for KDE in Gnome, that's all..
[07:49] <Derek_Russo> I want it to show when I get a new message in my taskbar, but not bring the window to my workspace, I find that very irritating
[07:49] <Derek_Russo> I want to know I hve a message, buts witch to that workspace when I click on it, if that makes sense
[07:49] <VTECpwr> XMMS doesn't work for me in Doublesize, anyone have this problem?
[07:49] <naknomik> noiesmo: YAY!!! that worked!
[07:49] <noiesmo> naknomik, cool :)
[07:50] <fiction> !nvidia
[07:50] <VTECpwr> I know XMMS is old news...
[07:50] <robert_> how do I set the default gateway?
[07:50] <robert_> -the+my
[07:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:50] <VTECpwr> robert - lsconfig ?
[07:50] <noiesmo> !envy
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <Toma-> VTECpwr: its a bug. you can get around it... hang on
[07:50] <LoneShadow> k who is running feisty + 2.6.20 kernel + grub in here ? :D
[07:51] <robert_> VTECpwr: I dont have that on my other box
[07:51] <VTECpwr> can't wait to try Feisty!
[07:51] <rdvon> !fglrx
[07:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:52] <VTECpwr> lsconfig is built-in I thought?
[07:52] <robroy> robert_, "route -n" or "netstat -rn" - the default gw is listed in the line behind the target "0.0.0.0"
[07:52] <BaB00> how do i watch *.asf video files ?
[07:52] <Toma-> VTECpwr: try this... "XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 xmms" in a console
[07:52] <robert_> ah ok
[07:52] <BaB00> guys how do i watch *.asf video files ?
[07:53] <VTECpwr> toma - exactly what does this do? I've only ~6 months exp...
[07:53] <LoneShadow> BaB00: try vlc or mplayer
[07:53] <Toma-> VTECpwr: it will not use composite extensions on xmms, so it can use the display normally
[07:53] <robert_> how do I update my default gateway?
[07:53] <LoneShadow> BaB00: you need to install win codecs I think
[07:53] <VTECpwr> k I'll try :)
[07:54] <BaB00> thx
[07:54] <BaB00> il try
[07:54] <acidtabs> can anyone help me i installed wine through the add/remove and its not showing up in the applications
[07:54] <VTECpwr> Toma - THANK YOU
[07:54] <VTECpwr> It worked
[07:54] <VTECpwr> you are a god
[07:54] <Toma-> i know :)
[07:54] <Toma-> np!
[07:54] <VTECpwr> hahaha :)
[07:54] <sowmya> hi can any one give the url for edunbutu 7.04  beta ISO?
[07:54] <niall> can someone help me with a networking question
[07:54] <niall> ?
[07:54] <VTECpwr> man you musta already known about that bug
[07:55] <Toma-> VTECpwr: yeh. composite by default is a bit of a pain in the backside.
[07:55] <Toma-> its so new and compatibility is horrible.
[07:55] <VTECpwr> way off, but anyone see the remote control R2D2  on Thinkgeek.com?
[07:55] <niall> I can't connect to Edgy from my mac
[07:55] <naknomik> noiesmo: I have a new problem however!
[07:55] <VTECpwr> Toma - I'll do some resarch on it
[07:56] <naknomik> noiesmo: If I switch from X to Alt-F1 and then come back to X, I see blank screen!
[07:56] <VTECpwr> now does anyone know anything about the Creative Labs Xmod
[07:56] <LoneShadow> sowmya: check http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/7.04/
[07:56] <rdvon> usually fglrx make my dsiplay resouloution too high anyone know how to fix this?
[07:56] <acidtabs> can anyone help me i installed wine through the add/remove and its not showing up in the applications? how would i start it??
[07:57] <rdvon> try alt-f2
[07:57] <VTECpwr> I got it to work momentarily on Edgy w/ kernel 2.6.20.6
[07:57] <sowmya> LoneShadow, thx :)
[07:57] <niall> my mac can see my Edgy box but can't connect to it
[07:57] <Barracuda> Is there anyway to connect to a WinXP that has "remote desktop" enabled, from ubuntu?
[07:57] <rdvon> or when trying to oopen up an application do open with... then type in wine as a command
[07:57] <kitsuneofdoom> acidtabs: open a terminal, if you know how
[07:57] <acidtabs> ok i opened it
[07:58] <kitsuneofdoom> cd to the directory with the exe
[07:58] <noiesmo> naknomik, hmm
[07:58] <kitsuneofdoom> and type wine whatever.exe
[07:58] <naknomik> noiesmo: do you have this problem?
[07:58] <rdvon> why dont you just right click open with thn command "wine" ? works in suse :D
[07:59] <noiesmo> naknomik, no just tried was fine
[07:59] <kitsuneofdoom> maybe that works too
[07:59] <NickGarvey> how do you include a module in apache?  I can't seem to find it on google although I assume it is pretty easy
[08:00] <noiesmo> naknomik, in beryl-manager check if Disable GL yeild is ticked under advanced Beryl options
[08:00] <wilo> quick question... how do i open a directory tat needs root acess?
[08:00] <wilo> sudo cd (directory)?
[08:00] <rdvon> i hate ati's proprietary drivers >_>
[08:01] <rdvon> if i dont install i have a jerky screen though.
[08:01] <wilo> i want to copy a image from onr location to a restricted acess location... how do i do that on ubuntuy edgy 6.10?
[08:01] <rdvon> :(
[08:01] <VTECpwr> how do I view my own network info for XChat?
[08:01] <rdvon> sry, usin gaim.
[08:01] <fiction> alriiiight, my genous self have done it =] 
[08:02] <niall> my mac can see my Edgy box but can't connect to it little help?
[08:02] <Ademan__> niall: connect to it how? samba?
[08:03] <Barracuda> Is there any way to connect to a Windows Machine with Remote Desktop, from a ubuntu machine? I have to use the RDP (remote desktop protocol) to access the windows machine (it's a 2003 server, using vnc is not an option).
[08:03] <robert_> okay
[08:03] <robert_> here's another problem I have
[08:03] <Cam> HELP! I need to make Mplayer my default player so that I can use it in firefox..6.10
[08:03] <enyc> Barracuda: yes
[08:03] <wilo> does anyone know?
[08:03] <mistone> so I resized my windows vista drive and I have a HP machine and I am trying to figure out if I can restore vista
[08:04] <niall> Ademan_:just in general I tried to connect to my Edgy box but I get "the alias "Kronos" could not be opened, because the original item cannot be found"
[08:04] <enyc> Barracuda: you can use 'rdesktop' program which does that...
[08:04] <robert_> when starting openvpn on my Ubuntu 6.06 box, the internet freezes
[08:04] <Barracuda> nice.. i'm gonna try it. thanks enyc.
[08:04] <mistone> apperently in vista's boot manager it stores the GUID of the partation in the bootmanager
[08:04] <mistone> so all I have to do is change that
[08:04] <enyc> Barracuda: I think the "remote desktop" item in menu  also provides you with opportunity to oconnect with RDP protocol
[08:05] <Keefu> Beginner-ish question... But just need to know. I've used Windows all my life (DOS for a little bit when I was a kid) and wanted to try out some sort of Linux OS for a while... I've been pretty spoiled with GUI... The only time I really punched in any real commands was back when all I had was dos, cant remember any of that honestly... Anyway, would I be able to start using Ubuntu without knowing commands/coding/etc stuff like that?
[08:05] <meal3837> is there a way to rip a DVD to my HDD so that I can wath it later and it will behave and interact like a normal DVD?
[08:06] <getoo> what is a good firewall for ubuntu
[08:06] <Cam> please! someone I need to make MPLAYER defaault...all the guides have led me astray
[08:06] <getoo> ?
[08:06] <MiS> hi, I've set up a samba (smb) share on my ubuntu edgy box and trying to connect to it with winxp box.  winxp sees it but it does not accept my user/pass (which, if I understand correctly, should be that of ubuntu box).  ideas?
[08:07] <Cam> firestarter gettooo
[08:07] <meal3837> getoo: firestarter has worked well for me
[08:07] <getoo> Cam thanx
[08:07] <Cam> no problem
[08:07] <getoo> meal3837: thanx
[08:07] <meal3837> yep
[08:07] <eck> Keefu: you wouldn't have a problem. there isn't really anything that you need to know commands for any more (although there is a lot of neat things you can't do with a gui)
[08:07] <kitsuneofdoom> meal3837: with some DVDs, dd if=/dev/<DVD DRIVE> of=~/<movie>.iso works
[08:08] <LoneShadow> meal3837: you can copy all the vob files into a folder
[08:08] <noiesmo> MiS, did you create a user and password with smbpasswd
[08:08] <LoneShadow> or what kitsuneofdoom said :D
[08:08] <niall> Ademan_: yeah and Im using samba. Should I use  nfs over smb to connect to it?
[08:08] <kitsuneofdoom> meal3837: also, thoggen copies and translates, Ive never tried it though
[08:08] <MiS> noiesmo: no, I did not.  thanks.  will try that
[08:08] <Juanca> hi everyone. Can anybody help me, I want to know if can reinstall ubuntu without losing my files and the packages I've already installed?
[08:08] <kitsuneofdoom> Juanca: easily for the files
[08:08] <Keefu> Well, I was reading around eck and I've seen things like needing to put in commands to get things like mp3's and multimedia stuff to work? Not sure what all it was... Think it was just referring to the installation process.
[08:08] <kitsuneofdoom> Juanca: harder for the packages.
[08:09] <noiesmo> MiS, man smbpasswd for info and options
[08:09] <Cam> How can I play wmv or realplayer files from firefox????
[08:09] <tritium> Juanca: but it's easy to get a list of installed packages and have them reinstalled later.
[08:09] <kitsuneofdoom> Juanca: just copy the /home directory, and maybe /var and /etc to a disk
[08:09] <robby> anyone know how to make a folder pop out like a menu in one of the panels
[08:09] <robby> ?
[08:10] <kitsuneofdoom> Juanca: /home probably would do it, but global configurations are in /etc, and some things (nethack) save stuff in /var
[08:10] <noiesmo> Cam, have you installed mozilla-mplayer and also the w32codecs
[08:10] <MiS> noiesmo: thanks man.  that was it!
[08:10] <noiesmo> MiS, np :0
[08:10] <Juanca> kitsuneofdoom: That's good to know. I have /home in  a partition
[08:10] <Cam> yes I have
[08:10] <eck> Keefu: the primary reason that is done is that people have different desktops (e.g. gnome vs kde) or might have to work from a command line for some reason. there are different graphical tools to get a job done, but you can always count on the command line tools to be the same
[08:10] <Juanca> does that help?
[08:10] <Cam> I just need to make mplayer standard rigth??
[08:11] <Cam> default I mean
[08:11] <eck> Keefu: it is easier to say "apt-get install thunderbird" than explain what the different desktops are and how to navigate the menus
[08:11] <robert_> how do I delete an entry in the routing table?
[08:11] <kitsuneofdoom> Juanca: smart move. Just remember to not format /home during the reinstall
[08:11] <meal3837> LoneShadow: what are vob files?
[08:11] <NickGarvey> how do you include a module in apache?  I can't seem to find it on google although I assume it is pretty easy
[08:11] <kitsuneofdoom> meal3837: they have the DVD content in them
[08:11] <Keefu> Ah... I get what you mean.
[08:12] <prower> Anyone using intel gma 3000 for their video in x?
[08:12] <MattPS3> I just installed kubuntu on my PS3, has anyone experienced this?
[08:12] <prower> (in 6.10)
[08:12] <Cam> noiesmo: I have mplayer-mozzilla...but totem is my defail player
[08:12] <getoo> how do i clean all the packages that i installed with apt-get .. i mean all the .tar or whatnot
[08:12] <getoo> . bz2
[08:12] <Cam> I need to change it to mplayer to be my default player
[08:12] <robby> anyone know how to make a folder pop out like a menu in one of the panels?
[08:12] <getoo> i had to uninstall totem
[08:12] <Juanca> kitsuneofdoom: Great, but could I be 100% sure I won't lose anything?
[08:13] <getoo> so i can use mplayerplug-in
[08:13] <robby> like the tree sort of like applications
[08:13] <LoneShadow> meal3837: if you browse your dvd, you will find some *.vob files usually 1GB each
[08:13] <Cam> you just unistall totem???
[08:13] <getoo> thats what i did
[08:13] <getoo> make sure u have mplayerplug-in installed
[08:13] <noiesmo> Cam, check if libtotem* files exist here /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[08:13] <meal3837> anybody work with dvd::rip?
[08:14] <Juanca> kitsuneofdoom:  can I be 100% sure I won't lose anything?
[08:14] <Cam> yes
[08:14] <Cam> should I delete all the lib totem files
[08:14] <Cam> ???
[08:15] <noiesmo> Cam then no jusr mkdir oldtotemfiles
[08:15] <robroy> robby, type "man route" and watch the samples
[08:15] <eck> Keefu: you might find entering commands in anyway -- usually it's the case that it's faster to copy and paste into a terminal than figure out how the clicky things work
[08:15] <noiesmo> jusr/just
[08:15] <Cam> thanks! should that do it???
[08:15] <corden> hello guys its me again
[08:15] <jonecioc> 
[08:15] <robroy> robby_, sorry - I've ment robert_
[08:15] <noiesmo> Cam yes then move the libtotem files into folder and then you need to reinstall mplayer plugin
[08:15] <eck> !zh
[08:15] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[08:16] <noiesmo> Cam, mv libtotem* oldtotemfiles (move to totem plugins)
[08:16] <noiesmo> Cam Then sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-mplayer
[08:16] <kitsuneofdoom> Juanca: well, if you have disks, you could back up everything.
[08:16] <corden> i have a 4 partitions in my 2 disks, but when i start ubuntu i only get two mounted partition 1 for ubuntu and 1 for my windows xp, the other 2 cannot be seen
[08:16] <Cam> okaaaay
[08:17] <kitsuneofdoom> corden: are they both on the same disk?
[08:17] <robroy> robert_, "route add default gw {ip-address of gateway}" (but leave away the {}'s)
[08:17] <corden> in my other ubuntu, i have 4 mounted
[08:17] <Juanca> kitsuneofdoom: that's what I don't want to do for a second time, and lose my configuration and installed programs too
[08:17] <corden> nop kitsuneofdoom
[08:17] <corden> the xp was in my 1st disk anf ubuntu on other disk
[08:18] <robert_> robroy: I want to *delete* a route from my 6.06 routing table
[08:18] <Juanca> kitsuneofdoom: this is becoming a nigthmare, but I'm still in love with Ubuntu
[08:18] <bhavi_bond> Help on creating an irc channel please
[08:18] <eck> robert_: route del
[08:18] <corden> actually i have triple boot, XP, UBuntu 6.10 and 6.06
[08:18] <eck> actually, deleting routes can be a pain
[08:18] <eck> sometimes you need to be overly specific
[08:18] <bhavi_bond> I have registered my nick
[08:19] <corden> before when i first installed the 6.10 i have the 4 mounted but when i re-nstalled in it down to 2
[08:19] <bhavi_bond> Now please help
[08:19] <eck> robert_: if you get errors just add in all the parameters
[08:19] <robroy> robert_, "route -n" - deleting a route is similar to adding it - just replace the word add by the word "del"
[08:19] <robert_> 10.0.0.0        0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 eth0
[08:19] <jonecioc> dose anyone chat with me
[08:19] <robert_> it won't let me delete that
[08:19] <MattMalone> Hi
[08:19] <kitsuneofdoom> corden: are you sure the other ones are set to mount
[08:20] <robroy> robert_, thats the network for the interface - not a route - can't ever delete it ;-)
[08:20] <bhavi_bond> hello anyone please..
[08:20] <MattMalone> I need some help, I'm completely new to Ubuntu
[08:20] <bhavi_bond> please help
[08:20] <jonecioc> ok
[08:20] <corden> not sure, i'm depending on ubuntu on how he mount my partitions.
[08:20] <pitillo> good morning
[08:20] <noiesmo> Cam, you may also need to remove totem-mozilla if installed sudo apt-get remove totem-mozilla
[08:20] <bhavi_bond> Help on creating an irc channel please
[08:20] <bhavi_bond> I have registered my nick
[08:20] <MattMalone> and I need to figure out partitioning.... and I want to punch the computer
[08:20] <bhavi_bond> please help
[08:21] <kitsuneofdoom> Juanca: well, I'd think that the /home stuff, you don't need to back up if you're careful when reinstalling
[08:21] <bhavi_bond> hello anyone please..
[08:21] <MattMalone> anyone got any links to a good tutorial?
[08:21] <corden> do i need to configure any files to have the 6.10 mounted all 4 partitions?
[08:21] <robert_> so I can't change it, ever? :p
[08:21] <robroy> robert_, you can delete it by typing "ifconfig eth0 down" (don't do it - your connection will be down)
[08:21] <kitsuneofdoom> Juanca: why are you reinstalling, if I might ask?
[08:21] <bhavi_bond> Help on creating an irc channel please
[08:21] <Metal03> Hi there, I'm looking for a nice FTP server program, simple...  any suggestions?
[08:21] <bhavi_bond> hello anyone please..
[08:21] <pitillo> bhavi_bond, search at freenode webpage or in another channel related to that
[08:21] <robert_> robby: it's on a different box, heh
[08:21] <bhavi_bond> I have registered my nick
[08:21] <MattMalone> ok
[08:21] <MattMalone> if you want to create a room, join the room
[08:22] <MattMalone> then register it
[08:22] <eck> Metal03: i would recommend vsftpd, but you can't really find a complicated ftp server
[08:22] <robby> robert_ what?
[08:22] <Metal03> Eck : True, but I guess by simple I meant graphic interface! :)
[08:22] <MattMalone> Can someone please give me a good link to a tutorial on partitioning?
[08:22] <robroy> robert_, this route tells the IP-stack that the network 10.0.0.0/8 could be found directly connected to the interface eth0 (via the gateway 0.0.0.0 on the physical eth0)
[08:23] <eck> Metal03: just install vsftpd and look at /etc/vsftpd.conf, i think it will literally work out of the box if you start up the daemon
[08:23] <robert_> ah k
[08:23] <robroy> robert_, you can change it - change your IP or your networkmask of your interface eth0 and it will be changed
[08:23] <eck> there's probably not even a dozen things that you would possibly want to change
[08:23] <Cam> noiesmo: my player now comes up...but no videos are playing
[08:23] <Cam> I think I do need the codecs
[08:24] <Cam> where could I find them???
[08:24] <Cam> it just palys audi
[08:24] <Cam> o
[08:24] <Cam> and no video
[08:24] <robroy> robert_, "sudo ifconfig eth0 10.10.10.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.10.10.255 up" ;-)
[08:24] <Juanca> kitsuneofdoom: because I'm having problems with the configuration of video, a couple of repositories with problems, and now I have problems trying to follow this HowTo (sorry it's in Spanish): http://elmodem.wordpress.com/2006/11/09/como-compilar-el-kernel-de-kubuntu/
[08:25] <pitillo> well I am trying to get my mobo wuith Nforce400 chipset (audio,video and net) working with ubuntu edgy. With a fresh installation no device detected. Can anyone give me a tip about? (are there kernel support or I need drivers from nvidia webpage) I dont know if I need to change the distro
[08:25] <robert_> is anybody here experienced with openvpn?
[08:26] <robroy> robert_, but this "solution" will only be dynamic - you'll have to change the config of your interface in the file: /etc/network/interfaces
[08:26] <eck> robert_: a little, i used to use it
[08:26] <robert_> hm
[08:26] <kitsuneofdoom> Juanca: argh...I left Spanish in senior year...Well, the big problem is, it's your programs that are causing the problems, so saving all your programs would give you another system with the same problems
[08:26] <noiesmo> Cam ok check if you have /usr/lib/codecs
[08:27] <pitillo> Juanca, are you spanish?
[08:27] <noiesmo> Cam, also /usr/bin/win32 and /usr/local/lib/codecs
[08:27] <robert_> whenever I bring up the openvpn (this just recently happening on my other comp), any throughput to/from that server magically dries up
[08:27] <Juanca> kitsuneofdoom: how could I know
[08:27] <dice14u> Anyone im having a driver issue, i have an ati radeon xpress 1100 and i can't find drivers for it
[08:28] <dice14u> actually have a bunch i need drivers for, im wondering how drivers work in linux
[08:28] <eck> robert_: are you routing all the traffic through the vpn?
[08:28] <dice14u> i can find every driver i need for windows
[08:28] <Metal03> Eck : Is there a graphic interface on that vsftpd program?
[08:28] <robert_> eck: I shouldn't be
[08:28] <pitillo> dice14u, fglrx did not support your card?
[08:28] <robert_> rather, I don't want to be
[08:28] <Juanca> kitsuneofdoom: I'm losing too much time trying to get help and solve the problems
[08:28] <robby> is there a program similar to smart ftp?
[08:29] <eck> Metal03: no, but ftp is really the simplest server type thing you can set up. if you have any questions about the .conf file i can help you with them
[08:29] <Metal03> Eck : I'm just not sure if the FTP server is online
[08:29] <Barracuda> enyc, about the remote desktop... it worked! thank you! :)
[08:29] <dice14u> pitillo i have never heard of fglrx
[08:29] <eck> robert_: i would check the logs first, and if that doesn't help use something like iptraf or tcpdump to see which interfaces the traffic is going out and coming in on
[08:30] <enyc> Barracuda: coooo... thatnk for letting me know ;-) lot of people dont come back etc. ;-(    ;-)
[08:30] <eck> Metal03: are you on the server right now?
[08:30] <enyc> Barracuda: you actually comp back and told me  ;-)
[08:30] <pitillo> dice14u, fglrx is the ati linux driver. Take a look to aptitude search to see if is there soma package
[08:31] <Juanca> kitsuneofdoom: thank you anyway, I'm leaving now
[08:31] <eck> Metal03: if you are not sure you can just try connecting to it
[08:31] <Metal03> Eck : I wanna set a small personnal server on my personnal computer so my friend can download stuff from my computer
[08:31] <Sam___> Is it possible to use SmartFTP?
[08:32] <eck> Metal03: if you don't mind having anonymous access you can just install an ftp daemon and copy the files to that directory. after that the simplest thing is to just add a user accound to the system and enable the local logins option
[08:32] <Barracuda> enyc, I live to give a feedback to people who try helping... hehe... thank u, again! :)
[08:32] <eck> i am not sure what the anonymous ftp directory is, probably something like /var/ftp
[08:33] <Sam___> eck: SmartFTP is a program that I like alot
[08:33] <Sam___> eck: Im debating to going to linux, but that is a sticking point
[08:34] <Barracuda> I mean, "I like", not live. lol :P
[08:34] <robroy> Metal03, you can try "webmin" (http://www.webmin.com) - one of the vsftpd-module could be found there: http://www.webmin.com/cgi-bin/search_third.cgi?search=vsftp     (it has to be installed - it's not a default module)!
[08:34] <m4st3r> hi all
[08:34] <xyz-abc> any app that would make visual customization (edgy eft) more simple?
[08:34] <Sam___> Barracuda: :P 'live' if you will :D, i've tried FTP commander and it just doesn't compare
[08:35] <eck> Sam___: the ftp daemon is your sticking point? all you have to do is tell it what method you want to authenticate users and what directory to use
[08:35] <Sam___> Barracuda: lol
[08:35] <eck> honestly i don't think it matters to much if you use vsftpd, proftpd, or any other ftp service
[08:35] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm trying to get kdissert working. I can't enter text. The tutorials say I should just be able to enter text after creating the first object, but I can't. The first object is selected. Using Ubuntu 6.10 with kubuntu-desktop installed
[08:36] <Sam___> eck: well, its just how they display everything, also they give me access to alot of prominate FTP archives, like Blizzard for example
[08:36] <Sam___> eck: I'm able to get any update for games like Starcraft easy and whenever
[08:37] <eck> Sam___: oh this is an ftp client. well, the archives you have access to are not dependent on what client you are using, and you have a lot of them to choose from
[08:37] <locolbd> anyone know how i can install the skins for aMSN
[08:38] <Cam> noiesmo: I don't have any of those directorys
[08:38] <Toma-> locolbd: i think theres a skin directory in ~/.amsn
[08:38] <Cam> Where can I donwload the codecs
[08:38] <Cam> You are so much help..thanks
[08:38] <locolbd> thanks
[08:38] <Neodon> hello
[08:39] <noiesmo> cam one sec
[08:39] <Sam___> eck: yeah, lol it's a client, I'm just used to the SmartFTP client display and feel, also it has some passwords I don't really remember lol
[08:40] <Cam> okay thanks!
[08:40] <noiesmo> Cam ok in terminal > wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[08:40] <noiesmo> Cam then sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[08:40] <noiesmo> Cam, then >sudo ln -s /usr/lib/codecs /usr/lib/win32
[08:41] <noiesmo> Cam, and > sudo ln -s /usr/lib/codecs /usr/local/lib/codecs
[08:41] <VietUnion> Hi every1
[08:41] <VietUnion> First, sorry for bad english because im vietnamese
[08:41] <VietUnion> Please tell me how to get all files update from Ubuntu, i have setup Ubuntu 6.10, it's work good but there are some file update available and i don't want update in ubuntu ( very slow )
[08:41] <VietUnion> i want file update ( ex: http://www.ubuntu.com/............. ) and i can use IDM to download ( i will use windows xp to download and update for ubuntu )
[08:41] <VietUnion> Thanks very much :)
[08:41] <noiesmo> Cam, that should do it restart firefox and should be fine
[08:41] <hobojohn3> how do i get wine?
[08:41] <hobojohn3> sudo apt-get ***
[08:41] <locolbd> another thing where do i find installed programmes folder, for instance amsn
[08:41] <draconius_> anybody in here had problems with dual-dual core processors?
[08:41] <Cam> really????
[08:41] <Cam> okay
[08:42] <draconius_> using maxcpus=1 on the grub line, I can run fine. with multiple cpus, i get hard system lockups when making heavy disk access
[08:42] <noiesmo> hobojohn3, sudo apt-get install packagename and you can also use apt-cache search packagename to find whats avail
[08:42] <noiesmo> Cam, yeah
[08:42] <m4st3r> How can i get in the python,java channel?  ... right English??
[08:43] <Cam> noiesmo:it still is doing the same thing.
[08:43] <Cam> I restarted firefox
[08:43] <eck> m4st3r: /j #python
[08:43] <hume> i have lost my user password, and try to boot the computer into recovery mode (from grub) to be able to set it again, but ends up in "give root password" (which I don't have) or Ctrl-D which leads back to normal KDM log in. How can I come to a prompt where I can set my user password?
[08:43] <locolbd> another thing where do i find installed programmes folder, for instance amsn
[08:43] <noiesmo> Cam, whats the page can you send me link and see if it works for me
[08:43] <GauntletWizard> anyone have experience getting tablets to work?
[08:43] <m4st3r> No...
[08:43] <hume> GauntletWizard, I have a tablet PC that works, toshiba m200
[08:44] <Cam> http://www.cnn.com/video/
[08:44] <Cam> any of the vcideos
[08:44] <eck> hume: did you set a root password? iirc you should not be prompted unless you actually gave the root user a password
[08:44] <Cam> I get myplayer...and it says connecting..and then plays just parts of the audio
[08:45] <GauntletWizard> hume: I've got a toshiba portege 3500 that i'm trying to get the stylus to work with
[08:45] <eck> hume: you might be able to bypass it by adding init=/bin/bash as a kernel boot parameter
[08:45] <hume> eck, where do I add that?
[08:45] <eck> hume: in the grub screen hit e and then add it before the -- in the kernel line
[08:45] <wilo> can someone help me configure apache2 on ubuntu
[08:46] <hume> GauntletWizard, got wacom and wacom-tools installed?
[08:46] <wilo> i have set up a http server on my windows bpx, n the tut i use, is based on linux, how do i configure it for linux
[08:46] <pitillo> not sure if my Q is trivial or it hasn't answer.... sorry if I disturbed someone
[08:46] <wilo> i done 'sudo apt-get install apache2'
[08:46] <GauntletWizard> hume: yeah, but I can't figure out which device my stylus is
[08:46] <eck> wilo: configuring apache isn't something you can walk someone though on IRC...
[08:46] <wilo> now how do i set the directory and htacess fiels?
[08:46] <Cam> noiesmo:Is it possible that I still dont have the codecs installed?
[08:46] <noiesmo> Cam, checking cnn now one sec
[08:47] <hume> eck, no -- in the kernel line, just kernel /boot/vmlinuz-xxxxxxx root=......
[08:47] <MattMalone> Can someone help me with partitioning? From within Ubuntu, using the Gnome Partitioning Tool, the hard drive has a padlock next to it, and I cannot partition it. So now I can't install Ubuntu. PLEASE HELP!!!!!
[08:47] <eck> hume: that's fine
[08:47] <wilo> eck: i realise that, i just need to know the default directory for .conf to set acess foir htacess
[08:47] <hume> eck, so where do I put it....?
[08:47] <eck> wilo: /etc/apache2
[08:47] <hume> eck, before kernel?
[08:47] <eck> hume: anywhere on the line
[08:47] <hume> ok
[08:48] <eck> no, after where it says kernel
[08:48] <eck> the things after kernel are arguments to the kernel, just like a regular unix command
[08:48] <romeomajk> How do I know what device under /dev is the screen?
[08:48] <MattMalone> Anyone?
[08:48] <noiesmo> Cam, did you download the deb package and install as i instructed
[08:49] <wilo> eck: this is the default .conf file .. correct? : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15333/
[08:49] <MattMalone> Is anyone free to help me out?
[08:49] <noiesmo> Cam, check you have the /usr/lib/codecs folder and it has files in it
[08:49] <hume> GauntletWizard, i think mine is ttyS14 or somthing like that
[08:49] <eck> wilo: yes
[08:49] <MattMalone> Please?
[08:50] <eck> romeomajk: it is probably /dev/video* or /dev/dri/card*, although i doubt you actually need to access the device directly
[08:50] <hume> GauntletWizard, have you googled to see what other users of the same tablet might have used?
[08:50] <Cam> noiesmo: It says no file or directory
[08:50] <romeomajk> eck: thanks
[08:50] <wilo> eck: in this tut : http://lifehacker.com/software/feature/how-to-set-up-a-personal-home-web-server-124212.php
[08:50] <Cam> I did the commands and there were no errors though
[08:51] <MattMalone> Can someone help me with partitioning? From within Ubuntu, using the Gnome Partitioning Tool, the hard drive has a padlock next to it, and I cannot partition it. So now I can't install Ubuntu. PLEASE HELP!!!!!
[08:51] <wilo> eck: this is the line in the windows tut
[08:51] <Cam> teh deb package??? No
[08:51] <wilo> In this httpd.conf file, comment out the line that starts with DocumentRoot and add another with your directory, like this:
[08:51] <wilo> #DocumentRoot "C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs"
[08:51] <wilo> DocumentRoot "C:/Gina/My Music"
[08:52] <wilo> how do i write that for linux .conf
[08:52] <Cam> omg Im so sorry
[08:52] <Cam> I missed the first command
[08:52] <wilo> 	DocumentRoot /var/www/::VHOSTNAME::/htdocs-::PORT::
[08:52] <wilo> 	<Directory />
[08:52] <wilo> 		Options FollowSymLinks
[08:52] <wilo> 		AllowOverride None
[08:52] <wilo> 	</Directory>
[08:52] <wilo> how do i configure that to point at a directory
[08:52] <NickGarvey> !paste | wilo
[08:52] <ubotu> wilo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:52] <noiesmo> Cam, hmm mine doesnt seem to like it also but also try this link http://media.putfile.com/eurodriiift
[08:52] <wilo> say '/home/wilo/Music'
[08:53] <MattMalone> :(
[08:53] <MattMalone> anyone?
[08:53] <hume> eck, hrm...addning that makes the boot hang at a usb-device
[08:53] <noiesmo> Cam, on cnn mine loads but mplayer keeps tring to connect but on the link above mozillaa-mplayer works fine and its a wmv format video
[08:53] <MattMalone> Can someone please help me out
[08:54] <MattMalone> The partitioning tool isn't working
[08:55] <eck> hume: it is sort of an old trick, i am not too surprised that it doesn't work on these new fangled systems
[08:56] <eck> hume: if you can you should just use a live cd
[08:56] <Cam> okay thanks noiesmo
[08:56] <hume> eck, yes, how do I use that to change pw?
[08:56] <wilo> eck: can you correct the pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15333/) so that it ONLY points to /home/wilo/Music/ and has a default acess of (username) : wilo , (password) : zxc123 ... please
[08:56] <eck> hume: once you get into a live cd, chroot into the old environment and run passwd
[08:56] <noiesmo> Cam, np
[08:57] <eck> wilo: i am not going to set up your whole web server for you
[08:57] <wilo> well i cant find a linux tut on configuring apache
[08:58] <eck> wilo: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/
[08:58] <Jeruhme> could anyone help with Ubuntu xwindows saying:
[08:58] <Jeruhme> Fatal server error:
[08:58] <Jeruhme> could not open default font 'fixed'
[08:58] <Jeruhme> I've searched everywhere and tried every FAQ - no luck
[08:59] <pitillo> Jeruhme, are you sure that is the only error?
[08:59] <Jeruhme> pitillo, it's all I see
[09:00] <Jeruhme> also error: The directory "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
[09:00] <Jeruhme> But that is for russians?
[09:00] <pavs> whats dbx?
[09:01] <eck> Jeruhme: figure out which files you just removed and put them back :-/
[09:01] <eck> the cyrillic thing is not a fatal error, but X will not start if it doesn't have any fonts at all
[09:01] <Jeruhme> eck, I didn't remove anything, just ran a dist-upgrade then all is broken
[09:02] <Jeruhme> i guess that might have removed something
[09:03] <eck> look for the FontPath lines at the top of the xorg.conf and make sure that at least some of them point to something
[09:04] <eck> i'm not sure which one of them actually holds the fonts you absolutely need
[09:04] <Jeruhme> ya, checked those, they're o
[09:04] <Jeruhme> ok
[09:04] <hume> eck, i got the live CD running now, am I to do chroot <root of my hard disk file system> then?
[09:04] <NefariousPrior> I just stopped by to let you know that ubuntu's default theme sucks ass. Have a good night.
[09:05] <eck> hume: if you have the old system mounted at say /mnt/ubuntu , you would run sudo chroot /mnt/ubuntu
[09:05] <Jeruhme> like:
[09:05] <Jeruhme> FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
[09:05] <Jeruhme> then ls  /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc shows lots of files
[09:06] <Jeruhme> have many of those FontPath folders
[09:06] <Jeruhme> all are OK
[09:06] <eck> hume: then you're basically in the old system and you can reset your password with passwd
[09:06] <eck> Jeruhme: i'm not really sure then, you will have to poke around the xorg log some more to find the root of the problem
[09:07] <hume> eck, feel a bit stupid - my old system does not seem to be mounted - is there a way to find out where it is, or do I just guess at /dev/hda?
[09:08] <eck> hume: oh, you need to mount it first, e.g. 'mkdir /mnt/ubuntu && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu'
[09:08] <Sgeo> G'night all!
[09:08] <Jeruhme> hmm... i'm lost on that myself
[09:08] <Jeruhme> log loos  fine up until font thing
[09:08] <Jeruhme> looks
[09:09] <AzMoo> Hey, I'm having a problem in that I can't seem to access any files with special characters. For example, I can't access the file: 02 - Glsli.mp3
[09:09] <eck> AzMoo: how do you mean "can't access"?
[09:10] <mjbrooks> Jeruhme, have you tried reinstalling your xfonts?
[09:11] <AzMoo> eck, I can't see them at all. The only reason I realized it's the issue is because rhythmbox has this whole list of "missing files" and all of them have the special characters. I can see and use them in windows though.
[09:11] <eck> AzMoo: what filesystem?
[09:11] <AzMoo> eck, ntfs
[09:11] <AzMoo> using ntfs-3g
[09:12] <oscar> somebody can help me? I have problems with NAUTILUS
[09:12] <Jeruhme> mj, i re-installed xfonts-base
[09:12] <eck> AzMoo: i'm not familiar with ntfs-3g, but with ntfs and fat you need to specify the character encoding of the filesystem when you mount it
[09:13] <Jarquafelmu> how do you terminate a process?
[09:13] <MarkCh> pkill -9
[09:13] <MarkCh> no more cpu time
[09:13] <MarkCh> Jarquafelmu: pkill -9 <proc. name>
[09:13] <eck> AzMoo: if you look at the mount man page it explains the options for each FS, and in the ntfs options it will tell you which ones you can use
[09:14] <oscar> somebody can help me? I have problems with NAUTILUS
[09:14] <zilly6__> you should check out that sond "kill dash nine"
[09:14] <Jarquafelmu> MarkCh: how can I see the process that are running?
[09:14] <zilly6__> song*
[09:14] <zilly6__> ps aux
[09:14] <eck> Jarquafelmu: try not to send kill -9 if you can help it
[09:14] <MarkCh> Jarquafelmu: ps aux
[09:14] <mjbrooks> Jeruhme, you can also try reinstalling xfonts-75dpi and xfonts-100dpi
[09:14] <Jarquafelmu> eck then what should i do?
[09:15] <zilly6__> find the process you want to kill
[09:15] <Jarquafelmu> ... and linux just hung itself...
[09:15] <eck> Jarquafelmu: try just kill PID
[09:15] <hume> eck, ok, now I have the root file system identified - but not the home directories (on another partition) - do I need those as well?
[09:15] <Jarquafelmu> eck didn't work
[09:15] <eck> if you use kill -9 the program may not close all the resources it is using
[09:15] <AzMoo> eck, my fstab has the nls=utf8 option, but I need a 16 bit charset there, right?
[09:16] <MarkCh> Jarquafelmu: you can also just kill things via a gui - run gnome-system-monitor
[09:16] <eck> well if it won't respond to other signals it's ok, but you should generally try a normal kill first
[09:16] <eck> hume: no, you just need /etc to change the passwords
[09:16] <preaction> AzMoo: UTF-8 can be up to 32 bits per character, iirc
[09:17] <eck> well i guess /bin too to run the passwd command
[09:17] <eck> AzMoo: i think nls and utf8 are different optoins
[09:17] <Jarquafelmu> eck, mouse doesn't work
[09:17] <Jarquafelmu> MarkCh: mouse doesn't work
[09:17] <eck> i.e. you would use nls=iso-8859-1
[09:17] <eck> or just the uf8 option for unicode
[09:17] <eck> Jarquafelmu: restaryt X
[09:18] <MarkCh> Jarquafelmu: try a restart ctrl+alt+bkspc
[09:18] <hume> eck, great, now it works, thanks a lot!!!
[09:18] <eck> no problem :-)
[09:18] <ivx> hello, I am editing a file in vi and it won't let me make a # symbol.   when i press shift and 3 it says: search hit TOP, continuing at BOTTOM why is it doing this
[09:18] <AzMoo> eck, no, nls is the replacement for iocharset, and utf8 is a valid value for it :) I removed that and I can see them now.
[09:18] <Jarquafelmu> MarkCh: I can't im dling things
[09:18] <AzMoo> eck, thanks.
[09:19] <MarkCh> well, wait for the dl to stop then, meanwhile you can use the keyboard
[09:19] <MarkCh> ctrl+alt+tab switches between panels. tab switches between controls.
[09:19] <preaction> ivx: because you're not in "insert" mode, press "i"
[09:19] <preaction> ivx: seriously consider running "vimtutor"
[09:20] <Jarquafelmu> What is the process name for Solar Wolf?
[09:20] <dimon08> hi all
[09:20] <dimon08> is fiesty RC out or not?
[09:20] <oscar> Hi
[09:20] <ivx> preaction, thanks, how do i run vimtutor, i typed that in the terminal and didn't do anything
[09:21] <crdlb> dimon08, it is not, it's been delayed a few days to fix some issues
[09:21] <m4st3r> When ubuntu 7.04 is out?
[09:21] <dimon08> :(
[09:21] <dimon08> hope they won't delay the release as it was with 6.06
[09:21] <MarkCh> m4st3r: if things go well, maybe itll be the 19th
[09:21] <crdlb> dimon08, you can get a daily release though if you'd like
[09:21] <preaction> ivx: vimtutor should've been installed when you installed vim. perhaps you only have vi?
[09:21] <papi> jhk
[09:21] <papi> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:22] <m4st3r> MarkCh//thanks
[09:22] <ivx> preaction, yes i only have vi, what is the difference between vi and vim
[09:22] <dimon08> no, I just can use local mirror and it will be updated only after official release(
[09:22] <eck> ivx install vim-full
[09:22] <preaction> ivx: vim is, imho, infinitely easier to use (with the correct settings)
[09:23] <eck> you don't have vi, just vim-minimal
[09:23] <snarfer> This is more of a Xubuntu question, but I want to swtich desktop managers, something that will allow beryl. does anyone know how I can do this?
[09:23] <eck> or whatever the ubuntu packagers call it
[09:23] <Jarquafelmu> How do I change between workspaces?
[09:23] <ivx> eck, i only have the debian base system installed and no one was answering in there so i came here :)
[09:23] <MarkCh> Jarquafelmu: ctrl+alt+left/right
[09:24] <preaction> ivx: uhm... this is not debian.
[09:24] <Jarquafelmu> MarkCh: thanks:)
[09:24] <eck> ivx: actually the minimal ubuntu is the same
[09:24] <MarkCh> np :))
[09:24] <ivx> preaction, relax i am on ubuntu right now
[09:24] <eck> just search for vim with apt-cache or aptitude and get the full one
[09:25] <eck> if you have the minimal version you won't even have syntax highlighting!
[09:25] <BlackDalek> I was trying out a feisty beta on a second internal hard drive. I probably should have modified the grub list before I deleted it, because now that I have re-partitioned the second drive, I get grub error 22 when I try to boot up. How do I fix this?
[09:25] <ivx> eck do you mean the server version of ubuntu is the same as debian?
[09:25] <eck> ivx: i am not sure, but i installed ubuntu with debootstrap once and i was in the same boat
[09:26] <ROnewbie> any audio gurus around here ? I have an Intel82801DB soundcard on a gateway laptop, and it doesn't work. Checked the forums, still nada.
[09:27] <pavs> update manager doesnt give me an option to upgrade to fiesty how do i upgrade to fiesty?
[09:27] <BlackDalek> Grub error 22 when I try to boot up. How do I fix this?
[09:27] <snarfer> This is more of a Xubuntu question, but I want to swtich desktop managers, something that will allow beryl. does anyone know how I can do this?
[09:28] <MarkCh> snarfer: you mean window managers, right?
[09:28] <snarfer> Yes, sorry
[09:28] <MarkCh> just run beryl-manager and select beryl as your default wm on its notification icon.
[09:28] <snarfer> I'm not savvy on the X terminology
[09:28] <snarfer> Ah, but I'm running Xubntu, can I still do this?
[09:28] <MarkCh> yes
[09:28] <eck> BlackDalek: i think that's the one where you pointed grub at the wrong disk
[09:28] <snarfer> Or do I need to apt for it?
[09:28] <eck> do you have two hard drives?
[09:28] <snarfer> Yes.
[09:29] <snarfer> Wait, that wasn't for me
[09:29] <MarkCh> you don't have beryl yet?
[09:29] <snarfer> So, just apt for it and then run beryl-manager
[09:29] <MarkCh> yep
[09:29] <snarfer> Simple, thank you!
[09:29] <MarkCh> also, you have to put a notification area on your xfce panel
[09:30] <MarkCh> just to be able to see beryl-manager's notification icon.
[09:30] <snarfer> Bah
[09:30] <snarfer> How do I do that?
[09:30] <BlackDalek> eck: yeah I have two hard drives.. one with edgy and one I just formatted (which used to have feisty)
[09:30] <MarkCh> wait, let me log on to my xfce.
[09:31] <eck> BlackDalek: the way grub works is that when you install it it is hard coded to look for a certain directory on a certain partition and find the rest of its files there, and if it can't find the partition/files you get error 22
[09:31] <eck> usually it happens if it is looking for the partition on the other wrong physical hard drive
[09:31] <MarkCh> snarfer: right click panel, add to it, system tray.
[09:32] <eck> you can reinstall grub, or else edit your device.map file and rerun the grub install command
[09:32] <MarkCh> then run beryl-manager, then your all set. i have it running on my xfce myself. :)
[09:32] <snarfer> Ah, OK
[09:33] <q0m> greetings
[09:33] <arshad> g
[09:33] <eck> BlackDalek: i recommend you just try to reinstall it from a rescue cd, but if you want to try the device.map thing you can find documentation at http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse91/suselinux-adminguide/html/ch07s04.html
[09:33] <q0m> i need to install mysql to ubuntu 5.1
[09:33] <q0m> whats the quickest way to do that
[09:34] <dimon08> btw, hoe can I create rescue cd?
[09:35] <BlackDalek> eck: I think my device.map looks right. Maybe I just need to fix up the changes in the menu.lst?
[09:35] <snarfer> Gmmm
[09:35] <snarfer> Hmm*
[09:35] <snarfer> systray is already installed
[09:35] <mjbrooks> !lamp > q0m
[09:35] <q0m> lamp?
[09:36] <snarfer> Linux Apache Mysql
[09:36] <snarfer> And PHP
[09:36] <snarfer> /perl python, etc
[09:36] <snarfer> Bah, I accidentally added a launcher
[09:37] <q0m> so...
[09:37] <snarfer> did not want to do that
[09:37] <snarfer> D:
[09:37] <q0m> sudo apt-get install lamp?
[09:37] <q0m> or is it !lamp?
[09:37] <snarfer> No, it's lamp
[09:37] <q0m> hm
[09:38] <q0m> all i'm getting during an aptitude search is lampython
[09:38] <mjbrooks> q0m, it'll be something like  sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[09:38] <snarfer> E: Couldn't find package beryl
[09:38] <snarfer> Lame
[09:39] <q0m> i tried that, i get some dependencies
[09:39] <q0m> that i cant download or install for some reason
[09:39] <q0m> i'm using 5.1
[09:39] <q0m> could that be it
[09:40] <q0m> i get mysql-server: depends: mysql-client
[09:40] <StOORm> hi ! howa can i install a .package under ubuntu ?
[09:40] <q0m> depends: libdbi-perl but it is not installable
[09:40] <mjbrooks> hmm
[09:40] <q0m> what exactly is not installable
[09:41] <RememberPOL>  so when i start 7.04, i see that it now has some automatic VMWare service scripts like starting the virtual monitor, ethernet driver, etc. but what exactly does this do? ..does it just make the startup process of running VMWarePlayer faster?
[09:41] <mjbrooks> q0m, not installable probably means not installable    the real question is why is it not installable
[09:41] <snarfer> StOORm: Where did you get the package?
[09:41] <snarfer> If it's the same kind of package I think it is
[09:41] <mjbrooks> jeez  that almost made sense  ;)
[09:41] <q0m> breezy badger?
[09:42] <snarfer> Then it should be a dir
[09:42] <StOORm> in the product developer website
[09:42] <snarfer> Of?
[09:42] <StOORm> Xara LX
[09:42] <snarfer> Link?
[09:42] <nonuda> guys, i'm trying to automatically mount a network shared folder, but it seems that it didn't work, i always have to start it manually by typing the "sudo mount /home/nonuda/server/progdbase"
[09:42] <nonuda> here is my fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15339/
[09:42] <snarfer> cron to the rescue!
[09:43] <StOORm> http://www.xaraxtreme.org/download/
[09:43] <StOORm> http://downloads.xara.com/opensource/RecXaraLX0.7_rev1692.package
[09:44] <q0m> how do you upgrade from 5.1 to 6.06
[09:44] <snarfer> StOORm: I suggest getting the tar file
[09:45] <snarfer> http://downloads.xara.com/opensource/RecomXaraLX0.7_rev1692.tar.bz2'
[09:45] <StOORm> i got this error when unpacking
[09:45] <StOORm> tar: xaralx0.7_rev1692.tar.bz2: ne peut open: Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce type
[09:45] <StOORm> tar: Erreur non rcuprable: fin de l'excution immdiate
[09:45] <StOORm> tar: Child returned status 2
[09:45] <StOORm> tar: Statut d'erreur report d'erreurs prcdentes.
[09:45] <mjbrooks> nonuda, I don't use samba, but I'm not sure the double slash in //server/progdbase  is valid fstab syntax
[09:46] <Crazytom> nonuda, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:46] <Crazytom> nonuda, check that out
[09:46] <nonuda> mjbrooks: if i mount it manually it works
[09:47] <nonuda> Crazytom: ok..thanks
[09:47] <BlackDalek> eck: ok that didn't work - I guess the grub folder I am looking for would have been on the disk I formatted... before you were suggesting running the grub installer? how do I do that?
[09:48] <mjbrooks> q0m, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[09:49] <josh__> hi
[09:49] <josh__> i want to install eclipse on ubuntu
[09:49] <josh__> someone had experience with that?
[09:50] <Xanthus3545> has anyone got ubuntu to dual boot with vista
[09:51] <Xanthus3545> has anyone got ubuntu to dual boot with vista
[09:52] <mjbrooks> Xanthus3545, do you have a question about it or are you taking a poll?
[09:53] <Xanthus3545> question I have pulled all my hair out trying to get ubuntu to dual boot with visat
[09:53] <lightdifference> Xanthus3545: http://techxworld.com/community/blogs/interop/archive/2006/11/05/Dual-booting-Vista-and-Ubuntu.aspx
[09:53] <mjbrooks> Xanthus3545, funny, went without a hitch here
[09:54] <snarfer> Ummm
[09:54] <snarfer> bash: deb: command not found
[09:54] <TooR4u> How to grab rstp stramed video?
[09:56] <Xanthus3545> well that is one I have not tired yet
[09:57] <Ademan__> i kno the logo is in the wiki somewhere, but i can't find it again
[09:57] <Ademan__> can anyone link me?
[09:57] <Xanthus3545> I think microass tries his hardes to work with other systems besides his own
[09:57] <Madpilot> Ademan, you want the Ubuntu logo artwork?
[09:57] <Ademan> yeah
[09:57] <Madpilot> one sec
[09:57] <Ademan> i can't for the life of me find it on the wiki
[09:57] <sorcerer> hey guys whats the difference between linux mint and easyubuntu .. i have ubuntu draper can i get these to work with them ?
[09:57] <Ademan> svg preferably
[09:58] <lightdifference> ademan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[09:58] <Madpilot> Ademan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[09:58] <Ademan> sorcerer: i was pretty sure linux mint was a spinoff distro of ubuntu, which would require a reinstall to use, wheras easyubuntu helps you install things
[09:58] <Madpilot> heh - lightdifference was a few seconds faster :)
[09:58] <Ademan> thanks Madpilot and lightdifference
[09:58] <lightdifference> yw.
[09:58] <Ademan> dunno why i had such a hard time finding it
[09:58] <muymuy> hello room
[09:58] <lightdifference> Ademan: google, my friend :P
[09:58] <muymuy> anyone knows something about openldap
[09:59] <Ademan> i was even at wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork...
[09:59] <carlesoriol> how can i know what deb installed a file?
[09:59] <Ademan> hehe, i shoulda known
[09:59] <sorcerer> Ademan: so can i just use easyubuntu and it will be the same distro as mint?
[09:59] <Ademan> no, but easyubuntu will help you do everything you care about
[10:00] <Ademan> linux mint is basically "everything's already done for you"  which causes possible legal issues, among other things
[10:00] <sorcerer> so how do i get easyubuntu
[10:00] <sorcerer> i mean what does this do for me
[10:00] <Ademan> !easyubuntu
[10:00] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[10:00] <sorcerer> i just installed ubuntu and got the flah plug in to work with firefix finally
[10:01] <Ademan> sorcerer: easyubuntu helps you install things like audio and video codecs
[10:01] <Ademan> i personally would rather learn to do it myself (and i did) so i can't really speak for what it does, but that link should describe it fairly well
[10:02] <sorcerer> learn to install all the plug in myself .. but why .. thou is there a benifit?
[10:02] <sorcerer> i mean does easyubuntu crash and what not
[10:02] <BlackDalek> ok.. I can't make the grub re-installer from the alternate install CD work. All I am getting is "grub-reinstall failed with exit code 20" with everything I try. What am I doing wrong?
[10:02] <chell> sorcerer: There's the benefit of knowing how to do it without extra tools
[10:02] <Madpilot> sorcerer, if you install everything yourself, you'll know exactly what was installed, and you'll learn how to install things in Ubuntu...
[10:03] <gammedup> hi, messing with bash scripting on ubuntu edgy eft, how can i force a hard ssh disconnect? as in kill a ssh session i made
[10:03] <TooR4u> How to grab rstp stramed video?
[10:03] <sorcerer> true that but see ,.., when i installed flash plug in which was soo difficult i cant remember the command lines as i just copied and pasted them to get it to work
[10:03] <TooR4u> i am downloading the mimms throgh mimms protocol
[10:03] <TooR4u> But my isp changed the type of streaming
[10:04] <KermitFree_>  /msg nickserv link KermitFree 33ker33ker33
[10:04] <TooR4u> how to record rstp protocol
[10:04] <Madpilot> KermitFree_, time to get a new password...
[10:04] <gammedup> haha
[10:04] <chell> sorcerer, you don't have to know the exact things to type in...
[10:04] <chell> you have to know where to find them
[10:04] <snarfer> Whoa
[10:04] <sorcerer> so to play mp3 steam music and watch youtube vids and what nto where do i find the manuals to do it manually
[10:04] <snarfer> Beryl is a trip
[10:04] <Ademan> gammedup: well there's a #bash    but i suppose you could just killall ssh
[10:04] <KermitFree_> sob
[10:04] <chell> and if you've done things often enough, you sorta know them by heart
[10:04] <stone123_> ./msg nickserver ghost KermitFree 33ker33ker33
[10:04] <mjbrooks> KermitFree_,  bwahahahaha
[10:05] <gammedup> Ademan: it is for a backup script so might be a good idea, ta
[10:05] <BlackDalek> aaargh! Help! All I am getting is "grub-reinstall failed with exit code 20" with everything I try. What am I doing wrong? I tried (hd0) and /dev/hda
[10:05] <snarfer> Aw, nuts
[10:05] <Ademan> gammedup: hrm, backup huh? so long as you're writing it, you might consider the idea of using svn (subversion) to help back up your files, it's an idea i've been playing with, but haven't actually done
[10:05] <AndyM> andym: test message
[10:06] <BlackDalek> what is exit code 20?
[10:06] <gammedup> Ademan: k
[10:06] <snarfer> In software update, I set the notification window that said I needed to activate automatic checks to not show again
[10:06] <snarfer> Darn
[10:06] <Ademan> gammedup: the advantage to that would be far less data would have to be transfered, AND you should be able to revert files back to older versions easily, etc
[10:06] <AndyM> another test message
[10:06] <Ademan> gammedup: just an idea :-)
[10:06] <KermitFree_>  /msg
[10:06] <Ademan> AndyM: we hear you :-)
[10:06] <gammedup> AndyM: we an't see you 8-)
[10:06] <Layer8> hi all!
[10:06] <Rambo3_> BlackDalek, error
[10:06] <KermitFree_> just a space to much :(
[10:07] <Layer8> can anyone help me configuring pam?
[10:07] <Madpilot> ubotu, restricted | sorcerer
[10:07] <ubotu> sorcerer: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:07] <gammedup> Layer8: I'd like to, but my wife won't let me near other women!
[10:07] <snarfer> Well, it appears this updat is going to take some time
[10:07] <Layer8> hehe
[10:07] <Rambo3_> KermitFree_, just dont do it in channel you have server tab for that
[10:07] <snarfer> Good night all
[10:07] <Layer8> i mean pluggable auth modules
[10:08] <xlei> hi
[10:08] <carlesoriol> snarfer:Good morning all
[10:08] <arooni> hey folks..... how can i allow several friends to connect to a web app (on port 3000) on my comptuer ?  i have a router, and a fixed IP?
[10:09] <BlackDalek> rambo3_: no kidding
[10:09] <BlackDalek> I can't make the grub re-installer from the alternate install CD work. All I am getting is "grub-reinstall failed with exit code 20" with everything I try. What am I doing wrong?
[10:10] <mjbrooks> BlackDalek, you might be trying to reinstall to the wrong device
[10:11] <XenSA> every time i try to join ubuntu+1 it tells me channel does not exist where is the support channel for fiesty
[10:11] <wilo> how do i restart a service on ubuntu?
[10:11] <lightdifference> XenSA: I just joined it..
[10:11] <lightdifference> 236 Members.
[10:11] <wilo> and im having troublr configuring apache2
[10:12] <XenSA> sorry my bad forgot the #
[10:12] <BlackDalek> mjbrooks: wrong device? how? I only have /dev/hda and /dev/sda.. and /dev/hda or (hd0) is the place grub used to be
[10:12] <mjbrooks> wilo, sudo /etc/init.d/SERVICENAME restart
[10:12] <Hdaackda> hey people! just got my free UBUNTU CD.. wow
[10:13] <mjbrooks> Hdaackda, welcome then
[10:13] <keropok> pass it
[10:13] <Hdaackda> now, I want to install it side by side with my windows. How do I select partitions? (I have 2 harddrive, each with 2 partitions)
[10:13] <fiction> How do i add another NetworkManager to the taskbar?
[10:14] <BlackDalek> even if I try to install grub to another drive, the error 20 persists
[10:14] <fiction> BlackDalek: i was having that
[10:14] <Hdaackda> that means 4 partitions total. Windows on my first harddisk. Drive C. I want to install ubuntu on my second harddrive. (D)
[10:14] <wilo> mjbrooks: how do i know wat service im after
[10:14] <predaeus> wilo, usually there is a script in /etc/init.d   that you can run like     sudo /etc/init.d/scriptname restart
[10:14] <wilo> im trying to restart apache2
[10:14] <fiction> BlackDalek: I unplugged all my hard drives, except the one ubuntu was being installed on. Then, i plugged them back in
[10:14] <KermitFree> ok, done :D
[10:15] <BlackDalek> this grub-reinstaller is a pile of poo.
[10:15] <Hdaackda> I selected the second hardrive, but it didnt giv me a choice.. i dont wanna format the whole of my second harddisk...
[10:15] <predaeus> wilo, there is also an option in System/Administration/Services
[10:15] <mjbrooks> BlackDalek, where is your grub installed?  /boot I'm assuming?
[10:15] <fiction> BlackDalek: So, grub starts, but the harddrive with Wnidows wont be there. So youll have to press ESC to select boot HD
[10:16] <mjbrooks> BlackDalek, have you tried   grub-install --root-directory=/boot hd0
[10:16] <Hdaackda> will installing ubuntu erase my harddisk?
[10:16] <mjbrooks> wilo, what service are you trying to restart?
[10:16] <lightdifference> Hdaackda: not if you use the live cd.
[10:16] <sorcerer> hey guys i just um installed all the plugins through .. easyubuntu .. iam new to unbuntu since i have a fresh install of ubuntu with all the codecs and stuff what else can i do i.e like .. virus protection umm .. anty spyware and stuff like that
[10:17] <BlackDalek> mjbrooks: yes, the grub folders/giles are in there. But grub is currently trying to point to the (non-existent) grub folders/files on the drive I formatted.
[10:17] <mjbrooks> sorcerer, you don't need that stuff for linux
[10:17] <wilo> mjbrooks: im trying to restart apache2
[10:17] <fiction> How do i add another NetworkManager to the taskbar?
[10:17] <BlackDalek> which is why I am trying to repair the grub loader so it points to the proper hard drive again
[10:18] <fiction> BlackDalek: Youll have to use a liveCD and edit device.map
[10:18] <onyx> anyone got mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail to work with edgy?
[10:18] <mjbrooks> wilo, then it's probably gonna be named apache
[10:18] <BlackDalek> I haven't tried "grub-install --root-directory=/boot hd0"
[10:18] <BlackDalek> Do I need to boot from a live CD and enter "grub-install --root-directory=/boot hd0" into a terminal?
[10:19] <Hdaackda> lightdifference: I have the live CD. I started the installation, selected my second hardrive.. it wanted to partition it with a minimum space of 6.4 GB (on my80 gb harddisk)
[10:19] <Rambo3_> BlackDalek, what does your /boot/grub/devices look like
[10:19] <lightdifference> Hdaackda: unless you tell it to erase the drive, it shouldn't.
[10:19] <mjbrooks> wilo, get that?
[10:19] <Rambo3_> or device.map
[10:20] <amoreau> Hello all
[10:20] <Hdaackda> will that erase my data on the second harddrive.... ok, but where will it take that 6 GB from? i have 3 partitions on that drive
[10:20] <fiction> BlackDalek: what does cat /boot/grub/device.map show
[10:20] <BlackDalek> Rambo3_: I can't see it right now, but I think it was right. I'll have to reboot the machine so I can see it.
[10:21] <amoreau> I'm in trouble with this known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106063
[10:21] <Hdaackda> lightdifference: will that erase my data on the second harddrive.... ok, but where will it take that 6 GB from? i have 3 partitions on that drive (btw, its FAT32)
[10:21] <amoreau> It's written Fix Committed
[10:21] <gryph76> would anyone be able to tell me how to remove drives from the places sidebar in nautilus/feisty?
[10:21] <UberPsyX> reep: hi its me again (the noob with wifi troubles!) i was just wondering if you could look over the output of iwconfig eth1 and tell me if its ok?
[10:21] <amoreau> do you know how long it takes to be ok for upgrade ?
[10:22] <UberPsyX> gryph:dont you right-click and remove? (i know thats how i got rid of a link)
[10:22] <predaeus> amoreau, are you on feisty?
[10:22] <amoreau> yes :-(
[10:23] <predaeus> amoreau, probably only after the release next week don't know. you can also ask in #ubuntu+1 for feisty issues. since it's still beta.
[10:23] <predaeus> or unreleased
[10:23] <lightdifference> Hdaackda: free space is what I'm assuming.
[10:23] <mjbrooks> amoreau, living on the edge has it's troubles
[10:23] <gryph76> UberPsyX: sadly it's not a link, it's a drive mapping that I didn't set up when installing Feisty
[10:23] <lightdifference> but, heck, what do I know.
[10:23] <BlackDalek> fitcion Rambo3_: I have to boot the machine using the edgy install/live CD jsut so that I can get to a terminal and see what's in the files. please stand by...
[10:23] <sorcerer> how come i dont need that stuff ?
[10:24] <amoreau> thanks predaeus
[10:24] <sorcerer> like vires protector and spyware stuff
[10:24] <UberPsyX> gryph76:oh ok sorry (im a noob! just trying to be helpful!)
[10:24] <elguavas> feisty beta issue: anyone have any news on the sata problem with kernel 2.6.20-14.23 ??  (ie, is there a fix comming soon)
[10:24] <mjbrooks> sorcerer, because you can't get infected by that stuff in linux
[10:24] <Rambo3_> BlackDalek, then repair it too
[10:25] <gryph76> UberPsyX: np - it wouldn't be a problem but I messed with some properties and now I can't mount it elsewhere or get rid of it O.o
[10:25] <amoreau> elguavas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106063
[10:25] <mjbrooks> !antivirus | sorcerer
[10:25] <ubotu> sorcerer: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[10:25] <UberPsyX> gryph76:oo err o_0
[10:26] <sorcerer> niice .. now in rythm box some of my mp3 dont show up when iam opening up my medira directory in its library .. they downty show up this is after i have installed easyubuntu .. with all codecs
[10:26] <wilo> mjbrooks: nope i dont get that
[10:26] <predaeus> gryph76, is the drive named in /etc/fstab   if so it will always be mounted at that location
[10:26] <wilo> i cant ge tit to work :(
[10:26] <elguavas> amoreau: yeah, i just added my 2c worth there... but the bug says "fix comitted" eyt there's no indication of how or when
[10:26] <mjbrooks> wilo, if you're trying to restart apache look for apache in /etc/init.d
[10:27] <ajmorris_> how do u create a local mysql account? i have forgotten
[10:27] <UberPsyX> gryph76: do you know any basics to to with iwconfig?
[10:27] <gryph76> predaeus: I tried to add it to fstab but it refuses to mount it - it tells me that it's already mounted elsewhere or busy
[10:27] <amoreau> elguavas: we are nor alone http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408057&page=8
[10:27] <mjbrooks> wilo, in other words   /etc/init.d/apache restart
[10:28] <wilo> mjbrooks:  'sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart' ?
[10:28] <mjbrooks> wilo, err  sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[10:28] <mjbrooks> right
[10:28] <predaeus> gryph76, probably it is already in fstab when it is mounted on boot.  you can try a    sudo umount -a    to umount everything that is not in use and written into /etc/fstab    (after that just do a sudo mount -a).
[10:28] <gryph76> UberPsyX: sorry no I don't - the only ubuntu wireless I've done was via ndiswrapper on Breezy on my laptop - haven't touched it since
[10:28] <predaeus> gryph76, ...to see if it is mounted in fstab
[10:29] <UberPsyX> gryph76: ok its just i had it working and then i had to reinstall ubuntu now i cant remember how i got it working again
[10:29] <qyzz> hi
[10:29] <Crazytom> UberPsyX, what's up
[10:30] <wilo> mjbrooks:
[10:30] <wilo> wilo@wilo-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[10:30] <wilo> Password:
[10:30] <wilo> sudo: /etc/init.d/apache: command not found
[10:30] <qyzz> can somoene tell me how to revert last update by using livecd? i had 7.04 beta installed, but i updated it and it doesnt reboot now
[10:30] <Rambo3_> apache2ctl ?
[10:30] <qyzz> so i rebooted with livecd and i'm wondering how to revert last changes on hd
[10:30] <Crazytom> UberPsyX, try man iwconfig  if that doesn't help just ask and i'll try to help
[10:30] <Rambo3_> or apachectl restart
[10:31] <BlackDalek> rambo3_: ok, for some reason I can't even access the hard disks from the Live CD anymore. They didn't get mounted. They are listed under /dev though
[10:31] <UberPsyX> Crazytom: well i have a BCM4318 wifi desktop card and i did have a wireless connection to my router, i then had to reinstall ubuntu and now i need to set up my connection again and i cant remember how to do it
[10:31] <elguavas> amoreau: yeah, i read that thread earlier. according to the bug report 2.6.20-14.23 for amd64 has the fix but the generic 1386 does not...
[10:31] <Rambo3_> BlackDalek, did you trash your HD ?
[10:31] <qyzz> is it possible to do with apt comands or something?
[10:31] <qyzz> anyone else has problem with rebooting after today's update on 7.04
[10:31] <Rambo3_> and by that i mean some raid or corrupted fs ?
[10:31] <ajmorris_> where is the mysql config file located ?
[10:32] <Rambo3_> BlackDalek, try mounting them manualy
[10:32] <mjbrooks> wilo, do an ls /etc/init.d/ and look for something that starts with apache... that's the one you need to restart
[10:32] <UberPsyX> Crazytom: and i cant get the lights on the back to flash and it wont find any connections so i was wondering if you knew whether the output of iwconfig has any problems
[10:32] <LordGoth_> a question when someone is available
[10:33] <mjbrooks> LordGoth_, just throw it out there
[10:33] <gryph76> predaeus: not sure what I did wrong there, but the umount -a made things worse. Thanks for the suggestion anyway - going to see if a reboot will solve anything  ;)
[10:33] <Madpilot> ubotu, ask | LordGoth_
[10:33] <ubotu> LordGoth_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:33] <BlackDalek> Rambo3_: I forget how to mount drives manually. I didn't trash my hard drive.. unless running the grub-reinstaller does that for me.
[10:33] <LordGoth_> ok. I've tried to use Beryl and AiGLX, but they won't load on my system
[10:33] <wilo> mjbrooks: ok, i see it, its called apache2... now how do i restart it/
[10:33] <qyzz> ?
[10:33] <qyzz> any apt guru here? :)
[10:33] <mjbrooks> wilo, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:34] <Crazytom> UberPsyX, the lights on the back of what?
[10:34] <Rambo3_> BlackDalek, sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu && sudo  mount /dev/XXX /mnt/ubuntu
[10:34] <UberPsyX> Crazytom: my wifi card
[10:34] <bhavi> hello all
[10:35] <Rambo3_> use apache2ctl restart
[10:35] <Crazytom> UberPsyX, please join #ubuntuwireless it's less crowded in there
[10:35] <mjbrooks> !beryl > LordGoth_
[10:35] <UberPsyX> Crazytom: cool i didnt realise there was a wireless irc :P
[10:35] <LordGoth_> !beryl
[10:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:35] <LordGoth_> ok, thank you.
[10:35] <qyzz> damnit... looks like i will have to reinstall ubuntu once again... i like ubuntu but it starts to work similar to windows - easier to reinstall than repair...
[10:35] <wilo> mjbrooks:
[10:35] <wilo> wilo@wilo-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:35] <wilo>  * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...                           apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[10:36] <Crazytom> there's not i just made up that room
[10:36] <Rambo3_> wilo, its working
[10:36] <LordGoth_> last question is: if gdm fails like when you load nvidia-glx or glx-legacy, what do you do to restore gdm to working order?
[10:37] <Ka3> witam
[10:37] <Ka3> #ubuntuPL
[10:37] <mjbrooks> wilo, you didn't configure it then?
[10:37] <Rambo3_> wilo, if you want to skip that warning setup your serverName
[10:38] <bhavi_bond> hello all.. How to open an irc  channel
[10:39] <Ilokaasu> bhavi_bond: just join it, if there is no channel named that, it will make new one
[10:39] <BlackDalek> Rambo3_:ok thanks, I got the drive mounted again, and inside I see that device.map has been emptied of all contents
[10:39] <qyzz> no one here knows how to revert last update?
[10:39] <bhavi_bond> OK
[10:40] <predaeus> !grub > BlackDalek
[10:40] <mjbrooks> predaeus, he's gotten that factoid a few times now  ;)
[10:40] <predaeus> BlackDalek, probably do a chroot to run the commands inside the mounted partition
[10:41] <predaeus> mjbrooks, better too often than not at all *g*
[10:41] <fiction_> Do you guys still have the NetworkManager on your taskbar up top?
[10:41] <FosTer1> Hello, Ok i am having troubles with Update manager
[10:42] <mjbrooks> wilo, a nicer way of restarting it is  sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart
[10:42] <mjbrooks> I always forget that one  ;)
[10:42] <bhavi_bond> Done registered the nick also..Its #linuxmobile pls anyone help me in getting ops, registering the channel..
[10:42] <FosTer1> Whenever i go for a update it has there 1 of 13 files but it does nothin no internet activitiy
[10:43] <Costel> what shall i use to edit cut an .avi file?
[10:43] <bhavi_bond> please
[10:43] <VSpike> I've setup fetchmail + postfix + maildrop + dovecot, and I seem to be getting multiple copies of messages delivered.  Can anyone advice on how to debug the cause?  I'm a bit out of my depth here.
[10:43] <wilo> mjbrooks: wilo@wilo-desktop:~$ sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart
[10:43] <wilo> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[10:43] <bhavi_bond> please help
[10:43] <user____> how do i set my comp to shutdown in 2 mins?
[10:43] <bhavi_bond> anyone?
[10:43] <mjbrooks> wilo, you need to configure your serverName
[10:43] <Costel> !avi
[10:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:43] <user____> shutdown -P 2??
[10:44] <Costel> !movieeditor
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about movieeditor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <Costel> !movie
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about movie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <bhavi_bond> please helppppppppppp
[10:44] <Costel> !editor
[10:44] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[10:44] <FosTer1> !xobile
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <qyzz> hmm looks like kernel was updated, but its version number didnt change
[10:44] <FosTer1> lol
[10:44] <theTrav> hurrow
[10:44] <bhavi_bond> to my above thing
[10:45] <bhavi_bond> pleaseeeeeeeeee
[10:45] <bhavi_bond> pleaseeeeeeeeee
[10:45] <user____> shutdown -P 2 shutdown :D
[10:45] <user____> it works
[10:45] <user____> with sudo
[10:45] <qyzz> i'll setup grub again to see if it helps (BTW why the hell updates stopped updating grub? and why someone removed option to install it on partition instead of MBR...)
[10:45] <bhavi_bond> anyone?
[10:45] <Costel> any goog avi ...movie editor?
[10:45] <theTrav> ok, so I'm trying to install iceWin now, and I find out that there's a package in RPM format.  Will that work on ubuntu or do I need to follow the "install from source" instructions?
[10:45] <qyzz> cya
[10:45] <theTrav> erm, IceWM that is
[10:45] <theTrav> ahh bugger
[10:45] <bhavi_bond> who can attend to me?
[10:45] <Rambo3_> bhavi_bond, /j #help
[10:45] <bhavi_bond> who can attend to me?
[10:45] <Costel> theTrav: sudo apt-get install alien
[10:45] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond, can you be any more annoying?
[10:45] <theTrav> time to go >_< I'll come back and ask again later
[10:45] <Costel> alien package.rpm
[10:46] <theTrav> ooh, alien, I'll remember to look it up, thanks Costel
[10:46] <predaeus> !repeat > bhavi_bond
[10:46] <regress> anyone have a recommendation to replace regexbuddy on linux?
[10:46] <bhavi_bond> I am not annoying... Its frustration
[10:46] <aidehua> How can I tell if my disk is connected as USB2 or USB1.1?
[10:46] <bhavi_bond> Done registered the nick also..Its #linuxmobile pls anyone help me in getting ops, registering the channel..
[10:46] <regress> looking for something with real-time regular expression highlighting, etc
[10:47] <gnomefreak> bhavi_bond: join #freenode-social for help with that
[10:47] <mjbrooks> bhavi_bond, join #help for IRC help   this channel is for ubuntu
[10:47] <Costel> please tell me a good .avi Movie editor for ubuntu
[10:47] <Costel> i need fast
[10:47] <aidehua> I see in "lsusb -v" that my drive is "bcdUSB 2.00" but that my "hubs", presumably the interface in the PC itself, as this disk is plugged into the back of the PC, are both "bcdUSB 1.1".
[10:48] <aidehua> Conclusion: my disk must be in USB1.1 mode.  It'd be nice if lsusb said that though :D
[10:48] <tatters> I need to add .fvc to the end of 1000 files, I have found rename using reg perlexp would work but I have no idea of the synyax to use
[10:48] <mjbrooks> Costel, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+movie+editors&btnG=Google+Search
[10:48] <regress> Costel: cinelarra
[10:48] <regress> etc
[10:48] <regress> mjbrooks beat me :(
[10:48] <mjbrooks> regress, lol
[10:49] <k-edgy> hello
[10:50] <k-edgy> how do i make my protable hdd to auto mount read/write everytime it is connected to the pc
[10:50] <BlackDalek> I have now followed the grub restoring instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and am now seeing if the machine will reboot properly now... fingers crossed X
[10:50] <k-edgy> *portable
[10:50] <k-edgy> how do i make my portable hdd to auto mount read/write everytime it is connected to the pc
[10:50] <sorcerer> can i install kxdocker on gnome .. the ubuntu draper flavour?
[10:50] <BlackDalek> woohoo! I got a ubuntu splash screen!
[10:51] <k-edgy> do i need ntfs-3g?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> sorcerer: sure. you may get some qt libs but yes
[10:51] <mjbrooks> k-edgy, if it's ntfs formatted   yes
[10:51] <Mountb78> could someone tell a newbie how to scroll down a window? 'easyubuntu needs your permission to install following packages' but i cant see the bottom of the window to give that permission...
[10:51] <k-edgy> mjbrooks : do i have to mount it manually with ntfs-3g
[10:52] <sorcerer> gnomefreak:  hey some qt libs what does that mean
[10:52] <k-edgy> i mean, everytime i plug it in
[10:52] <mjbrooks> k-edgy, no, you can add a line you your /etc/fstab file
[10:52] <k-edgy> no
[10:52] <gnomefreak> sorcerer: qt libs are used in kde gtk is in gnome
[10:52] <k-edgy> i dont want it to automount on boot
[10:52] <jhaig> Mountb78: Yes, that is annoying.  Try holding [Alt]  while right-clicking and dragging the window.  I'm not sure if this will work, but it might.
[10:52] <sorcerer> so where do i get the version .. for gnome .. kxdocker
[10:53] <sorcerer> i mean will it work on bother or is there a sperate one for gnome desktop ?
[10:53] <k-edgy> for example, maybe there a friend of mine dat has a portable hdd n i need to access n write on that disk
[10:53] <k-edgy> do i have to mount it manually with ntfs-3g?
[10:53] <predaeus> Mountb78, you can scroll in terminals with  shift-page up/down
[10:53] <gnomefreak> sorcerer: if you run apt-cache show kxdocker  look at what it says in the lines with depends and that will tell you what you need for it to work and they should get installed if not already
[10:53] <||arifaX> k-edgy: it should auto-mount but will not if ntfs file system has errors. this could happen if you unplug it without unmounting (win/lin). to fix this just plug it on a windows machine and unplug it using the wizard, then connecting to ubuntu should automount it
[10:53] <Mountb78> jhaig - worked. thanks!
[10:53] <tatters> Does anyone know the syntax to use to rename a load files in a folder,, I need to add .sfc to each one?
[10:53] <BlackDalek> thank you mjbrooks , Rambo3_ and predaeus for helping fix my grub problem... predaeus's link has done the trick.
[10:54] <jhaig> Mountb78: Did I say right-clicking?  should be left-click (unless you have a left handed mouse)
[10:54] <foug> does anyone here use opera?
[10:54] <VSpike> foug: sometimes
[10:54] <Mountb78> j - i tried both, left worked ;)
[10:54] <k-edgy> ||arifaX : so, if a portable hdd mounted with read-only, it means dat it was not unplugged correctly, right?
[10:54] <foug> VSpike: did you install flash on it?
[10:54] <k-edgy> ||arifaX : so, if a portable hdd mounted with read-only, it means dat it was not unplugged correctly in winXP, right?
[10:55] <VSpike> foug: used to be my preferred browser on windows, but since moving to linux I'm leaning more towards firefox
[10:55] <mjbrooks> BlackDalek, dedicate 3 copies of Feisty in our names when it comes out and pass them out and we'll call it even  ;)
[10:55] <foug> VSpike: o ya? i used opera on windows too, why do you like FF now?
[10:55] <Madpilot> foug, all the time - and for flash, just grab the *nix installer from Macromedia's website, it should detect all your installed browsers
[10:55] <predaeus> tatters, probably ask in #bash
[10:55] <VSpike> foug: I have flash installed -- I must admit I can't remember exactly how I did it
[10:55] <predaeus> tatters, or #perl
[10:55] <sorcerer> gnomefreak: i did the line now it just spat out alof ot libs names .. now what
[10:55] <VSpike> foug: firefox seems faster on my system, and more stable
[10:55] <sorcerer> what does that tell me to do .. o
[10:55] <foug> Madpilot: i couldn't find a direct deb tod ownload, im following http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Install_OpenMotif_in_Opera
[10:55] <foug> VSpike: i see
[10:56] <VSpike> foug: flash works better on it too for some reason :)
[10:56] <||arifaX> k-edgy: with ntfs-3g it should mount r/w maybe you have to install package ntfs-config and do a sudo ntfsconfig to enable r/w
[10:56] <Madpilot> foug, ubuntuguide is better than it used to be, but still not good.
[10:56] <Madpilot> ubotu, opera |  foug
[10:56] <ubotu> foug: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[10:56] <||arifaX> k-edgy: err sudo ntfs-config
[10:56] <tatters> /oin #perl
[10:56] <VSpike> foug: I havent put any time into trying to figure it out - may be something simple.. i just took that path of least resistance
[10:57] <pharsalus> Can anyone give a noob advice on duel booting XP and kubuntu? Do I have to partition my disk before installation or will Kubuntu partition for me?
[10:57] <k-edgy> ||arifaX : sudo ntfs-config - no such command
[10:57] <foug> VSpike: in firefox, you know how when you type something into any box? firefox remembers it and will auto complete it as you type it? in a drop down box you know? how do i turn that off
[10:57] <VSpike> pharsalus: the installer will try to make it as easy as possible for you
[10:57] <||arifaX> k-edgy: you have to install it first   sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[10:57] <josh__> had someone intall eclipse on ubuntu
[10:57] <k-edgy> owh
[10:57] <k-edgy> okay
[10:57] <predaeus> josh__, sure
[10:57] <Costel> when i use squirrelmail i get this error
[10:57] <predaeus> josh__, it's in the repos
[10:58] <Costel> imapd: Error reading ACLs for INBOX.Sent: No such file or directory
[10:58] <Costel> any idea
[10:58] <Costel> ?
[10:58] <k-edgy> couldnt find ntfs-config package
[10:58] <josh__> predaeus: how do you install it
[10:58] <k-edgy> what repositories shud i hav to install ntfs-config?
[10:58] <ardchoille> !info eclipse
[10:58] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[10:58] <ardchoille> !info ntfs-config
[10:58] <ubotu> Package ntfs-config does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[10:59] <predaeus> josh__, thanks to archoille we know that you have to enable the universe repositories
[10:59] <k-edgy> so, where does ntfs-config exists?
[10:59] <mjbrooks> foug, In firefox  Edit -> Preferences   then Privacy btton and uncheck the box that says "Remember what I enter in forms and the search bar"
[10:59] <regress> what's a good tool for developing regular expressions in ubuntu?
[10:59] <foug> mjbrooks: nice thanks, i don't think this option was there for windows, that's why i used opera
[10:59] <||arifaX> k-edgy: look here and read http://dwarfurl.com/eaf4d
[11:00] <VSpike> foug: not sure but there are load of settings accessible by putting "about:config" in the address bar
[11:00] <VSpike> foug: oh.. missed that mjbrooks answered it :)
[11:00] <k-edgy> ok
[11:00] <Gartra1> help... ive tryed cleaning the cache... ive rebooted... and i cant uninstall the program in question...
[11:01] <regress> how do people in here develop regular expressions? trial and error?
[11:01] <Gartra1> i get this error:
[11:01] <Gartra1> E: Problem parsing dependency Depends
[11:01] <Gartra1> E: Error occurred while processing konqueror-plugin-gnash (NewVersion1)
[11:01] <Gartra1> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[11:01] <Gartra1> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[11:01] <mjbrooks> regress, what?
[11:01] <ardchoille> mjbrooks: That doesn't control the url box i firefox. I have that turned off and it still drops down to try and autocomplete.
[11:02] <mjbrooks> ardchoille, have you cleared the cache of the old stuff?
[11:02] <dj-fu> regress: I use a tool when I get really stuck
[11:02] <dj-fu> called regexbuddy
[11:02] <regress> mjbrooks: I'm googling for regular expression tools...I have a text file I need to apply some serious filtering to, but I'm not sure how to develop the regular expression before using it
[11:02] <predaeus> sry, misspelled ardchoille
[11:02] <dj-fu> but otherwise, yeah, trial and error
[11:02] <ardchoille> mjbrooks: I have cache disabled.. along with cookies, js and a slew of other stuff.
[11:03] <regress> dj-fu: I love regexbuddy, but it's not free for linux, not even a trial :(
[11:03] <mjbrooks> ardchoille, try clearing your private data and see if it still does it
[11:03] <regress> and they offer such a nice discount if I bought the windows license, they'll sell me the linux one for only $20!!!
[11:03] <ataq>  hey I am running FC6 X64, can I get flash for my web browser?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> sorcerer: just install it
[11:04] <clarity_> hmm.. s there any reason why clock() isn't work from time.h it keeps returning 0
[11:04] <ardchoille> mjbrooks: That works, but there should be a way to disable it altogether.
[11:04] <spikeb> ataq, yes, but you also need a wrapper, install this too: http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/projects/nspluginwrapper/
[11:04] <sorcerer> whats the difference between engage and kxdocker?
[11:04] <Enverex> ataq, Erm, why don't you ask the Fedora people?
[11:04] <predaeus> ataq, this is the Ubuntu support channel.
[11:04] <mjbrooks> ardchoille, well, with it unchecked now it should remember them any more... try it
[11:04] <ardchoille> mjbrooks: But, thank you for the tip :)
[11:04] <Gartra1> ataq: it should be in the rpm manager program under "flash-nonfree"
[11:04] <sorcerer> gnomefreak:?
[11:04] <clarity_> yeah sorry it's in ubuntu
[11:04] <ataq> Gartral: Thanks mate
[11:05] <clarity_> same code works on solaris
[11:05] <ardchoille> mjbrooks: That box was unchecked last year when I installed Dapper.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> sorcerer: never used engage
[11:05] <regress> dj-fu: anything for linux you can recommend?
[11:05] <mjbrooks> ardchoille, hmmm
[11:05] <Gartra1> ataq:  np, i dule boot fc5/ubuntu
[11:05] <ataq> spikeb: because I am an ubuntu guy, just need fedora for a server. and anyways its all the one!
[11:05] <ataq> Gartral: which do you prefer
[11:05] <mjbrooks> ardchoille, well, you could always just tell FF to clear the private data automatically when you close it
[11:06] <ardchoille> mjbrooks: Not a big problem, just a minor annoyance.
[11:06] <mjbrooks> ardchoille, then it's just there for the session
[11:06] <Gartra1> ubuntu, by far... no messy half working source binaries
[11:06] <ardchoille> Yeah
[11:07] <Gartra1> debian (ubuntu) is lightyears ahead of the red hat source (FCx)
[11:07] <spikeb> eh, not in every aspect.
[11:07] <ataq> Gartral: Ubuntu is very nice, although for speed I find FC easier to alter
[11:07] <Gartra1> as far as user freindliness and self intergration
[11:08] <ataq> True
[11:08] <mjbrooks> I agree   FCs boot sequence is prettier    lolo
[11:08] <leagris> clarity_, is that from the standard C library ?
[11:08] <mjbrooks> no ugly grub screen
[11:08] <ataq> Definitly, to be honest I think FC6 is faster by default, rather than ubuntu
[11:09] <manager> hello to everybody.
[11:09] <chell> hi
[11:09] <ataq> dont get me wrong, I still love ubuntu more!
[11:09] <sorcerer> so how do i download the kxdocker from the terminal ?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ataq: mjbrooks getting a bit offtopic
[11:09] <Gartra1> and you have a point.. but those of us who migrate from winblows to linux, find a warm, pleasent greeting in ubuntu, in both software/hardware and community support
[11:09] <gnomefreak> sorcerer: sudo apt-get install kxdocker
[11:10] <ataq> gnomefreak: I can see where he is coming from though!
[11:10] <sorcerer> will it download all it dependecnies as well ?
[11:10] <Gartra1> yes
[11:10] <gnomefreak> sorcerer: yes
[11:10] <gnomefreak> ataq: if you guys are gonna continue please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:10] <CroX> sorcerer: What's the difference between kxdocker and kdocker?
[11:11] <ataq> gnomefreak: May I ask why does this make a difference to you?
[11:11] <Gartra1> anything you do with apt all dependencies are fullfilled
[11:11] <ataq> lol
[11:11] <sorcerer> err i dunno i am talking about kxdocker
[11:11] <Rambo3_> the one that marks the spot
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ataq: this is not an offtopic channel
[11:11] <Gartra1> ataq: because this is "supposed" to be a support channel, not GD
[11:11] <sorcerer> no when iam downloading it from the terminal where is this file being dowloaded 2 ?
[11:11] <ataq> gnomefreak: Well, it was on topic really
[11:11] <zero-9376> hi everyone i need some help with a disk related problem these are the messages in syslog
[11:11] <zero-9376> 
[11:11] <zero-9376> ata2: command 0x35 timeout, stat 0xd9 host_stat 0x61
[11:11] <zero-9376> ata2: translated ATA stat/err 0xd9/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0xb/47/00
[11:11] <zero-9376> sd 1:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x8000002
[11:11] <zero-9376> sdb: Current: sense key: Aborted Command
[11:11] <zero-9376> Additional sense: Scsi parity error
[11:11] <zero-9376> end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 236867927
[11:11] <zero-9376> Buffer I/O error on device sdb1, logical block 29608483
[11:12] <zero-9376> lost page write due to I/O error on sdb1
[11:12] <ataq> Gartral: I think he should chillax
[11:12] <zero-9376> 
[11:12] <gnomefreak> ataq: it is not and please do not continue
[11:12] <mjbrooks> !flood
[11:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:12] <zero-9376> oops
[11:12] <ataq> gnomefreak: ok sorry John!
[11:13] <Gartra1> ataq: lets talk more in the #ubuntu-offtopic chan
[11:13] <ataq> Gartral: Ya see ya there
[11:13] <spacechicken> G'Day all - can someone point me to help on setting up an ntp server?
[11:13] <Gartra1> k
[11:15] <Gartra1> so, about my prob, anyone have a suggestion?
[11:15] <Gartra1> i cant install/uninstall ANYTHING due to a parsing error
[11:15] <Costel> pate the error
[11:17] <mjbrooks> Gartra1, try sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status.old && apt-get update
[11:18] <Gartra1> what are the chances of criticle error?
[11:19] <sorcerer> umm i install kxdocker .. andits kinda messed up coz .. it like over my old pannel where i removed all the stuff from it lik th reach can ad all that is left is a gray bar at the bottom ?
[11:19] <mjbrooks> Gartra1, depends on what is critical to you ;)
[11:20] <Gartra1> complete system crash
[11:20] <mjbrooks> Gartra1, others have reported that   sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status   worked for them
[11:20] <m4st3r> what do you live?
[11:22] <srwcom> hi
[11:22] <srwcom> Can anyone help me???
[11:23] <Crazytom> !ask | srwcom
[11:23] <ubotu> srwcom: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:24] <srwcom> I tried to install ubuntu 6.10 to one of my friends, and i don't know why during installation suddenly freeze when "loading module 'usb-storage' ubuntu install"
[11:24] <Crazytom> srwcom, what do you need help with?  we can't answer unless you ask
[11:24] <srwcom> i tried to kill this process from a terminal but still nothing
[11:25] <aglet> When mounting an HFS+ volume from Linux, is there any way to map uid/gid 99 to something else..?
[11:26] <srwcom> i don't know
[11:26] <YNWA> Hi - does anyone know where the NTFS configuration tool for feisty is?
[11:26] <srwcom> i hust but the cd onto cd-rom, boot from it and the install from the wizard
[11:27] <srwcom> and this message appears in 90%
[11:27] <Gazza> srwcom: did you check the cd for errors?
[11:27] <srwcom> yep
[11:27] <YNWA> I can't seem to get my NTFS partitions to appear
[11:27] <Gazza> and did it find any? :)
[11:27] <srwcom> is the same cd that i install ubuntu in my laptop and my desktop-pc
[11:28] <srwcom> no
[11:28] <Gartra1> YNWA: !ntfs
[11:28] <Gartra1>  !ntfs
[11:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:28] <YNWA> What?>:o
[11:28] <Gazza> have you tried installing more than this one time ?
[11:28] <srwcom> yep
[11:28] <srwcom> and i didn't have any problem
[11:29] <YNWA> wait - does the ! thing bring up ubotu?
[11:30] <Gazza> i wouldn't know about installation issues beyond clicking install
[11:30] <VSpike> srwcom: I found one other reference to that problem on ubuntu forums, but no answer to it.  It may just be a bug with the kernel on the install CD for some specific piece of hardware on that system I guess
[11:30] <Gazza> sorry dude
[11:30] <srwcom> SHould i unpluged all th usb devices??
[11:30] <srwcom> or should i try an older version??
[11:30] <Gazza> yeah that'll be worth a thought
[11:30] <VSpike> srwcom: Wouldn't hurt.  You could even try disabling USB 2.0 in the BIOS
[11:30] <mjbrooks> srwcom, what version are you trying?
[11:30] <srwcom> 6.10
[11:31] <VSpike> srwcom: If you're just checking stuff out, you could also try the feisty beta, although that may just swap your current problem for some new ones :) but you might get lucky
[11:31] <mjbrooks> srwcom, I'd try unplugging the devices
[11:32] <deepsa> does anyone here can tell will we get shipt cd's for fiesty fawn or not when it is released and 6.06 reached end of life?
[11:32] <mjbrooks> lucky in the sense that it won't give you more problems, not a date  ;)
[11:32] <srwcom> i also find this post:Using the Alternate CD, was able to install. At the installer's boot screen, F6 and enter a boot parameter of "debian-installer/probe/usb=false"
[11:32] <srwcom> and so on.....
[11:33] <mjbrooks> deepsa, by the time 6.06 EOLs Feisty will be a memory
[11:33] <haxality> hello, if I wanted to copy a partition to another partition, what console command would I use?
[11:33] <Gazza> whats EOLs?
[11:33] <haxality> gparted gives me a blank error dialog every time I try to use it
[11:33] <deepsa> Gazza: end of life
[11:33] <deepsa> mjbrooks: thanks
[11:33] <mjbrooks> EOL==End Of Life
[11:34] <mjbrooks> deepsa, you'll probably be able to get it through ship-it,  but it will probably also be like 6.10 in that you'll have to pay for it
[11:35] <Gazza> which of the ubuntu's dapper edgy fiesty etc would you say is the most capable ?
[11:35] <apokryphos> ..of?
[11:36] <Gazza> stable-wise
[11:36] <apokryphos> dapper is LTS, so it's meant to be pretty stable
[11:36] <mjbrooks> Gazza, dapper is the most stable
[11:36] <apokryphos> ubotu: lts
[11:36] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[11:36] <apokryphos> but feisty is looking pretty good too
[11:36] <VSpike> stable in the sense of doesn't change much, or stable in the sense of doesn't crash much?
[11:36] <mjbrooks> VSpike, yes and yes
[11:36] <Gazza> well both really :)
[11:36] <VSpike> heh
[11:37] <apokryphos> Gazza: it's f[ei] sty btw
[11:37] <Gazza> heh
[11:37] <Gazza> so it is :D
[11:38] <mjbrooks> I plan on throwing a Feisty Install Fiesta when it gets release
[11:38] <crazy_penguin> Hello all!
[11:39] <Gazza> hey crazy :)
[11:39] <Hdaackda> hey, can anyone tell me how do i install Ubuntu (i have the live CD), along with Windows XP (not deleting it)
[11:39] <mjbrooks> !dualboot | Hdaackda
[11:39] <ubotu> Hdaackda: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[11:39] <elifed> Gazza, how are you liking it?
[11:40] <elifed> I'm damn impressed with
[11:40] <Hdaackda> thanks
[11:40] <Gazza> very well thanks
[11:40] <elifed> er with it
[11:40] <Gazza> i guess you're talking about xubuntu?
[11:40] <elifed> you bet
[11:41] <elifed> yes I am
[11:42] <Gazza> why it's very nice :)
[11:42] <filleokus> Hi! I am just wondering how stabel the Feisty beta server version is? Im not going to use it for a production server or anything
[11:42] <YNWA> um... can someone help me with manually mounting NTFS disks?
[11:42] <Gazza> i especially like how quick programs load compared to Ubuntu
[11:42] <elifed> Gazza, I've always liked XFCE, but I've never seen it this well done
[11:43] <YNWA> the easy way on doesn't work and I don't understand the hard way ... :(
[11:43] <shwetang> hi
[11:43] <filleokus> YNWA: sure, what is the problem?
[11:43] <Gazza> This is my first XFCE experience
[11:43] <Gazza> and i'm impressed
[11:43] <mjbrooks> filleokus, can't wait a week?
[11:43] <shwetang> mine also first exp
[11:43] <rhalff_> anyone know a nice opensource way to make screencast for an application ?
[11:43] <filleokus> mjbrooks: oh, is it cooming so soon
[11:43] <elifed> I was mucking about with XFCE 4.4 on Slackware 11 a couple of days ago
[11:43] <YNWA> filleokus: hi, uh the sudo bash diskmounter command doesn't work for me
[11:44] <mjbrooks> filleokus, due Apr 19
[11:44] <YNWA> it says it cannot find any usable windows/mac partitions
[11:44] <shwetang> hi i am male 34 romantic what about u
[11:44] <WsMan> lol this is not a romance channel
[11:44] <filleokus> YNWA: umh, sorry but i am just familiary to the traditional mount comand
[11:44] <zechx> rhalff_:  there's a vnc-based tool
[11:44] <TuTuFF> could anyone tell me when official release of full Feisty is scheduled for please?
[11:44] <erUSUL> !ntfs > YNWA
[11:44] <apokryphos> shwetang: you probably want another network
[11:45] <elifed> Slackware is just showing its age a bit too much for me lately
[11:45] <erUSUL> !feisty
[11:45] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:45] <WsMan> april 19 i think
[11:45] <TuTuFF> ooh not long .. many thanks for the info
[11:45] <YNWA> filleokus:I used NTFS Configuration tool on Edgy but I can't find it now. that'll help too...
[11:45] <zechx> rhalff_: http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/
[11:45] <rdz> haha.. exactly 2^10 people are logged in now
[11:45] <Gazza> i believe a i hear a coffee calling me...
[11:45] <CroX> Is there any way to get FF and Liferea to interact with eachother smoothly?
[11:45] <mjbrooks> shwetang, I'm a male and I'm bigger than you, so start running
[11:45] <Gazza> brb :)
[11:46] <rhalff_> zechx: ah nice thanks :)
[11:46] <zechx> np
[11:46] <mjbrooks> lol
[11:46] <filleokus> YNWA: sorry, but i am the oldschool (manual config) type. first time i used ubuntu was a cpl weeks ago
[11:47] <YNWA> filleokus: okay, no probs, anyone else?
[11:47] <crzyboon> Hi, i've got some problems getting internet access through a gateway computer running windows ICS.
[11:48] <YNWA> I don't want to screw up my system by using "Mounting partitions manually" methods on the 'documentation'
[11:48] <crzyboon> its been fine all this time- i've had problems configuring samba and when i finally got that to work, i am no longer able to use the internet
[11:48] <filleokus> what if you install a feisty fawn server now, and then updates it to the stabel versio, is therre alot of work to do when the stable is comming?
[11:48] <zechx> hmmm... not all programs start using white text when you switch to a black ui
[11:50] <Gazza> zechx heh
[11:50] <Gazza> yeah some fiddling definately
[11:50] <zechx> including firefox
[11:50] <zechx> but it's worth it :D
[11:50] <big_bang14> has any 1 managed to install f4l?
[11:50] <zechx> got a totally clean black desktop (xubuntu, beryl) and Tux on my menu button :D
[11:51] <Gazza> very nice! :)
[11:51] <Gazza> i love tux
[11:51] <jaheiska_> Yes
[11:51] <YNWA> Anyone know where the NTFS Configuration tool is?
[11:51] <Gazza> such a cute lil fella
[11:51] <zechx> you can use the svg in buttons, it works great
[11:51] <jaheiska_> Jaa okei
[11:51] <Gazza> only i wish beryl would work on my box
[11:51] <jamesbrose> does anyone know how to setup two computers so that they can ping each other? (connected to each other directly)
[11:51] <zechx> :/
[11:51] <zechx> ati?
[11:51] <Gazza> SiS integrated swap ram thingy :(
[11:51] <zechx> oh.
[11:52] <zechx> you use "copy transfer
[11:52] <berl> hi. do you guys know of a tool to search the contents of several pdf files?
[11:52] <Gazza> yeah copy transfer
[11:52] <zechx> but it's slower than slow
[11:52] <big_bang14> jaheiska_: was that directed at me?
[11:52] <Gazza> very slow
[11:52] <Gazza> also
[11:52] <erUSUL> berl: let beagle index them and search with it
[11:52] <Gazza> no opengl support
[11:52] <zechx> :/
[11:52] <Gazza> crazy i know
[11:53] <berl> erUSUL, thank you. Gonna try that.
[11:53] <Gazza> but i do have a gaming box elsewhere
[11:53] <zechx> me too, but it doesnt work with beryl
[11:53] <Gazza> so i use this for office and chat
[11:53] <zechx> (ati card)
[11:53] <Gazza> ah
[11:53] <zechx> i have the most non-existing unsupported nvidia card in my laptop though
[11:53] <spikeb> no matter how good ati's hardware is, i refuse to buy it until they figure out how to write drivers.
[11:53] <zechx> it's called Nvidia Geforce 488 go
[11:53] <spikeb> for any platform
[11:53] <big_bang14> when i,
[11:54] <zechx> doesn't exist according to nvidia
[11:54] <spikeb> zechx, heh
[11:54] <zechx> but the linux drivers support it
[11:54] <Gazza> lol dont think i've heard of that one :)
[11:54] <zechx> the windows drivers don't ^^
[11:54] <spikeb> hahaha
[11:54] <Gazza> hah! groovy ;)
[11:54] <spikeb> now that is interesting.
[11:54] <zechx> so i have beryl+games on my laptop
[11:54] <zechx> but not on my game pc
[11:54] <spikeb> heh
[11:54] <spikeb> go figure
[11:54] <zechx> yeah
[11:54] <zechx> buy nvidia, folks!
[11:54] <zechx> it will save you headaches
[11:55] <sorcerer_> hey guys iam trying to install this  but i hamving problems here the link
[11:55] <sorcerer_> http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/osxbar/main.php?action=installer
[11:55] <spikeb> i will continue to do so until intel produces a PCI-E card, or the open graphics project does.
[11:55] <big_bang14> when i type cvs -z9 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/f4l co f4l-0.2
[11:55] <spikeb> (buy nvidia, that is_
[11:55] <sorcerer_> do i just paste this in the terminal
[11:55] <Robot666> can u play games on Ubuntu like need for speed etc?
[11:55] <spikeb> if they run native, on wine, or on cedega
[11:56] <zechx> download the file, open terminal in the same directory, and copy paste the commands
[11:56] <sorcerer_> speakingh to me
[11:56] <zechx> warcraft 3 runs better in wine then on windows
[11:56] <sorcerer_> can anyone tell me how to install osxbar?
[11:56] <Gazza> if the game runs mac, far chance it'll run linux too
[11:56] <zechx> brightness works, and i can even alttab and move screens in front of it
[11:56] <sorcerer_> i already installed kxdocker ..
[11:56] <Gazza> (abeit with modifications)
[11:57] <aglet> Robot666: you'd be better of with an XBox
[11:57] <sorcerer_> i did a apt-get install kxdocker
[11:57] <sorcerer_> how do i install it to look like os x?
[11:57] <zechx> try using an ubuntu package instead of the tarball
[11:57] <zechx> you can just doubleclick those in edgy
[11:57] <big_bang14> when i type: cvs -z9 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/f4l co f4l-0.2
[11:57] <big_bang14> i get: cvs [checkout aborted] : connect to cvs.sf.net(66.35.250.207):2401 failed: No route to host
[11:57] <big_bang14> what am i doing wrong?
[11:57] <Robot666> aglet: Im not very fond of gaming consoles
[11:57] <pawel> Hi!
[11:58] <pawel> Why my Ubuntu is very slow ?
[11:58] <zechx> xbox is an pc with intel proc and nvidia card sold under cost price
[11:58] <zechx> and you can put linux on it
[11:58] <zechx> it's just in a box ^^
[11:59] <predaeus> pawel, explain in more detail. is window movement slow, loading times, or what do you mean?
[11:59] <sorcerer_> can anyone help me with osxbar>????
[11:59] <pawel> in gnome, boot process is fast
[11:59] <sorcerer_> the installation ,.. iam having problems
[11:59] <pawel> only in window manager
[11:59] <zechx> pawel: try installing graphics drivers, or if your pc is old, try xubuntu
[11:59] <pawel> 700 mhz
[12:00] <big_bang14> when i type: cvs -z9 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/f4l co f4l-0.2
[12:00] <big_bang14> i get: cvs [checkout aborted] : connect to cvs.sf.net(66.35.250.207):2401 failed: No route to host
[12:00] <big_bang14> what am i doing wrong?
[12:00] <Supaplex> xxxunbuntu! ;)
[12:00] <predaeus> sorcerer_, looks like it is a theme or plugin to superkaramba, do you have that installed?
[12:00] <zechx> pawel: video card?
[12:00] <YNWA> Does anyone know where NTFS Configuration tool (the .deb) file is?
[12:00] <pawel> ati radeon 9200 64/mb
[12:00] <predaeus> big_bang14, can you ping that host?
[12:00] <Supaplex> YNWA: what's to configure?
[12:00] <zechx> http://www.xubuntu.org
[12:00] <sorcerer_> predaeus: no i dunno what that is .. what do i do i only did a sudo apt-get install kxdocker
[12:01] <zechx> :P
[12:01] <sorcerer_> and its looks all messed up ..
[12:01] <rhalff_> zechx: seems like instanbul is an even easier sollution for screencasts, found it while looking at vnc2swf :)
[12:01] <sorcerer_> predaeus: so what do i need to do please iam new to ubuntu id you could help me
[12:01] <YNWA> how to get my NTFS paritions to show up
[12:01] <YNWA> partitions
[12:01] <zechx> yeah but istanbul is slow on my pc
[12:01] <zechx> its in the repo though
[12:01] <big_bang14> predaeus: How would i do that?
[12:02] <rhalff_> zechx: ah ok
[12:02] <zechx> cool transparent menu's work over video in xine
[12:02] <predaeus> sorcerer_, not sure but you need to install superkaramba to make it work, probably sudo apt-get install superkaramba or something.
[12:02] <Supaplex> big_bang14: it's not you, afaict. http://rafb.net/p/G6GwBe84.html
[12:02] <predaeus> big_bang14, ping cvs.sf.net
[12:02] <zechx> rhalff_: and, swf can be posted on a webpage
[12:04] <JJ|Laptop> anyone play nwn?
[12:04] <pawel> If I installing video driver, system was fastest
[12:04] <big_bang14> predaeus, i get unknown host
[12:04] <pawel> ?
[12:04] <zechx> yeah
[12:04] <predaeus> big_bang14, probably your dns is messed up, can you ping google.com
[12:04] <predaeus> ?
[12:04] <zechx> but the Ati drivers can be tough to install
[12:04] <zechx> use the guide in the wiki
[12:05] <mcp> hello. what packages has the kernel patches in broken-out form?
[12:05] <pawel> ok. Thak for all
[12:05] <pawel> I go to install ;)
[12:05] <m4st3r> Do you know sora aoi?
[12:05] <predaeus> mcp, IIRC the ubuntu kernel source packages contain the patch files somewhere
[12:06] <big_bang14> predaeus, do i need www.?
[12:06] <predaeus> big_bang14, nah
[12:06] <zechx> pawel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:07] <predaeus> big_bang14, does it return something or does it timeout?  no need to paste the output here if it returns something
[12:07] <Gambaroni> When I try to connect to my TFTP with PXE the log says: cannot bind to local socket: Permission denied. Why?
[12:07] <zechx> i think raw socket acces is not possible for users by default
[12:08] <big_bang14> predaeus, no, it returned stuff
[12:08] <USA|377074> How do I get to google?
[12:08] <zechx> Menu > Network > Firefox > 'www.google.com'
[12:09] <predaeus> big_bang14, hm weird, well I can ping cvs.sf.net aswell.
[12:10] <predaeus> gryph76, sorry for that earlier, probably running mount only would suffice as it shows where what is mounted. did you manage to fix your problem?
[12:10] <gryph76> predaeus: nothing a re-install couldn't take care of ;)
[12:10] <big_bang14> predaeus, can u ping anonymous@cvs.sf.net?
[12:10] <predaeus> big_bang14, nah you need to remove the anonymous@
[12:11] <predaeus> that does not make any sense for the ping command
[12:11] <predaeus> only ping cvs.sf.net
[12:12] <predaeus> gryph76, hm
[12:12] <big_bang14> predaeus, i can ping that
[12:12] <Yevgen> i'm having problems compiling ViM from SVN - for some reason i cant set --enable-gui option. No matter what i do i get "checking --enable-gui argument... no GUI support"... did a search on google and ubuntuforums, installed all dev libs metioned there... still no success. I am out of ideas... any advice?
[12:12] <predaeus> big_bang14, well then something else is wrong
[12:13] <gryph76> predaeus: the lesson for me (in this case) being - don't mess with stuff when you don't know how to reverse the changes
[12:14] <mcp> predaeus: the linux-source package has a all-in-one-patch
[12:14] <elifed> well a re-install does reverse the changes, so you are compliant with your mantra :P
[12:15] <big_bang14> predaeus, what could it be?
[12:15] <malv> ubuntu feisty beta was powering my sisters life support system and it stopped booting
[12:15] <elifed> haha
[12:15] <gryph76> elifed: true, but there's bound to be an easier way.
[12:15] <predaeus> mcp, no idea then, probably they only make this all-in-one public. I don't know. Keep asking, maybe on the forums aswell.
[12:15] <elifed> malv, using beta for that you must hate her
[12:16] <mcp> predaeus: k, thanks
[12:16] <bef> What is the best OS?
[12:16] <elifed> malv, okay, there should have been a comma somewhere in that sentence, mea culpa
[12:16] <Costel> i have routed with iptables 100 Clients and i apt-get remove iptables and apt-get install iptables and the 100 are still the ..how can i dlete them..?
[12:17] <big_bang14> bef: ha!
[12:17] <predaeus> big_bang14, not sure, probably just the command order or something. maybe that "pserver" is wrong or so I don't know. did you read that command somewhere or is it normally right, or did you try this for the first time and make the command up yourself?
[12:17] <Costel> is a way to frsh install iptables?
[12:17] <malv> I think this beta bug was created to celebrate centos 5s release
[12:17] <zechx> lol bef you cant start a flamewar on the ubuntu channel
[12:17] <Costel> or to delete the old configuration
[12:17] <bef> zechx: lol
[12:17] <zechx> the answer is obvious
[12:17] <adrian15> POLL: What do you think about making a Super Grub DIsk  ( http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org ) package for Ubuntu? Do you think it is useful? SGD is an enhaced grub disk. It would replace grub-disk package ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/admin/grub-disk )  Thank you. A better place for placing this poll ?
[12:18] <zechx> although i think Xubuntu is just a little better hehehe
[12:18] <Costel> !iptables
[12:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:18] <elifed> zechx, I'm liking it
[12:18] <bef> zechx: surely there will be no flame war in ubuntu channel, "Humanity towards others" and all that
[12:18] <Costel> only the bot sees me :(
[12:18] <zechx> yeah
[12:18] <big_bang14> predaeus: it was here: http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
[12:18] <elifed> zechx, it's a solid beta too
[12:19] <zechx> huh? feisty?
[12:19] <zechx> i'm running stable
[12:19] <elifed> zechx, yessir
[12:19] <elifed> ah
[12:19] <Costel> isnt tere a way to remove a package with is configuration ..
[12:19] <elifed> Edgy?
[12:19] <zechx> yes
[12:19] <big_bang14> bef: sorry
[12:19] <bef> Im running Ubuntu 9.1 Gerards Gullet
[12:19] <zechx> Remove including config files
[12:19] <zechx> in synaptic
[12:20] <zechx> elified: edgy
[12:20] <wilo> any css fans here?
[12:20] <zechx> css or cs:s?
[12:20] <zechx> :P
[12:20] <iMilad> Does anybody know a way to convert XVID videos to DIVX5 or DIVX6? so that i can play them in my DVD Player
[12:20] <bef> Ubuntu vs Linux Mint?
[12:20] <big_bang14> woooop! css!
[12:21] <zechx> Linux Mint rulez
[12:21] <zechx> but doing it yourself starting with xubuntu is more fun
[12:21] <adrian15> iMilad: Check mencoder
[12:21] <elifed> bef, included multimedia codecs or not...personal choice
[12:21] <zechx> mint has better colors
[12:21] <bef> elifed: but the differences are not just media codecs.
[12:21] <iMilad> adrian: where exactly should i look for that? i am a newbie :P
[12:22] <big_bang14> predaeus: predaeus?
[12:22] <agnieszka> whats the best soft to record television from tuner tv, what would u sugest?
[12:22] <vio> hiya guys
[12:22] <elifed> bef, you're right menu && s/brown/green/g
[12:22] <agnieszka> in ubuntu
[12:22] <zechx> Menu > Add/Remove... > Mencoder
[12:22] <zechx> i guess
[12:22] <predaeus> big_bang14, trying to check out now
[12:22] <vio> how can i add cgwd theme to compiz?
[12:22] <vio> what do i need to install
[12:22] <Costel> is this a suport channel?
[12:22] <zechx> beryl ^^
[12:23] <bef> elifed: i think you are naive as to what the differences are.
[12:23] <vio> oh..
[12:23] <zechx> this is Official Ubuntu Support Channel
[12:23] <vio> ye.. many #ubuntu channels open
[12:23] <elifed> bef, that is probably true
[12:23] <big_bang14> agnieszka, think, myth
[12:23] <bef> elifed: greater hardware support, wireless especially is a great feature
[12:23] <elifed> bef, I don't have all of the minutae of simply mepis down either
[12:23] <Costel> i asked beacause i get no support ...
[12:23] <zechx> wireless!
[12:24] <vio> !wireless
[12:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:24] <zechx> i used to have rather unstable wireless support using ndiswrapper
[12:24] <big_bang14> *tv
[12:24] <zechx> but now it doesn't work
[12:24] <zechx> card is detected, driver is loaded,, kernel module etc
[12:24] <zechx> it just doesnt want to change ssid
[12:24] <agnieszka> yeah i got myth alrigth, but it sais that it need to log in to some server, while in configuration, and i dont know what to do... someone knowns?
[12:24] <elifed> bef, I prefer disaffected vs naive
[12:24] <predaeus> big_bang14, it just hangs here. no idea. probably get it here instead http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=87799
[12:25] <zechx> don't buy wireless gear that uses a Broadcom chipset
[12:25] <Costel> is there a way to remove a package along with is configuration?
[12:25] <elifed> bef, but I really think Mint has its place
[12:25] <zechx> yes, Costel
[12:25] <big_bang14> predaeus, ill try that
[12:26] <espejomartin> olaa
[12:26] <zechx> in the Package Manager, right-click the package and select 'Mark for complete removal'
[12:26] <bef> elifed: i am using mint currently, but by no means am restricted to it. i have used other distributions, and when feisty is released, I will be working on my own distro.
[12:26] <zechx> it will remove the config files
[12:26] <elifed> bef, using Mint or Feisty or something else as a baseline?
[12:26] <Costel> thats the problem ..when i open synaptic my PC freezes..text only method?
[12:26] <bef> elifed: Feisty as a base.
[12:27] <zechx> yikes
[12:27] <zechx> freezes!?
[12:27] <Costel> yes
[12:27] <predaeus> Costel, I think sudo apt-get remove --purge     does that. but if you have iptables rules that are valid after a reboot then you've either got some script somewhere that sets them on boot or some frontend that does it. iptables rules get deleted on reboot.
[12:27] <zechx> try running 'sudo synaptic'  in a terminal
[12:27] <zechx> what does it say?
[12:27] <elifed> bef, soon there will be two distributions for every user :P
[12:27] <zechx> synaptic should not crash your system
[12:27] <bef> elifed: i like that, ;] 
[12:27] <zechx> :(
[12:28] <Costel> most of GUI based packages crash my PC
[12:28] <Costel> i use only terminal
[12:28] <zechx> there should be more people working on intercompatibility
[12:28] <predaeus> Costel, because iptables just sets the routing rules inside the kernel when you reboot, memory is cleared so settings are lost.
[12:28] <zechx> Costel what kind of pc are you using
[12:28] <bef> elifed: the more people that make their own distros, or help out with a distro, means the more educated people become about linux and these users will be able to help new users etc. it's a positive cycle.
[12:29] <Costel> Prco amd 1.8Ghz RAM 256 HDD 40 nvidia geforce agp 8x 64 MB
[12:29] <Costel> i wont give up ubuntu just eceause is crashing my sistem...
[12:29] <elifed> bef, I think its cool, I have an Uncle that is contemplating Linux right now, but he's a bit overwhelmed by the number of distributions out there
[12:29] <zechx> you should definately be able to run gui programs
[12:29] <Costel> used to...
[12:29] <zechx> are you using the beta?
[12:29] <Costel> 2 mouths ago
[12:29] <elifed> he's having a tough time picking one
[12:30] <zechx> just give him linux mint ;)
[12:30] <bef> elifed: when i introduce linux to people, i tell them there's a few options... red hat, debian, slackware and gentoo are generally what i mention, and i mention the differences
[12:30] <zechx> or Mandriva if he likes the way windows is slow
[12:30] <bef> or Kubuntu if you want bloated.
[12:31] <bef> or even worse;  Ubuntu Ultimate
[12:31] <jkitchen> anyone using a realtek 8185 wireless card?
[12:31] <zechx> or Suse if you want to kill oss
[12:31] <Costel> what might be my prob?
[12:31] <zechx> are you using the beta Costel
[12:31] <Costel> wth pc freeze?
[12:31] <Costel> no
[12:31] <elifed> bef, Slackware is my first love, but it's in dire need of some updating
[12:31] <Costel> this prob appears even in 6.06
[12:31] <zechx> did you install proprietary drivers?
[12:31] <zechx> really?
[12:32] <Costel> fresh install this morning
[12:32] <bef> elifed: yea.
[12:32] <zechx> is there a bug related to it?
[12:32] <bef> elifed: 11.0 = :[
[12:32] <elifed> bef, agreed
[12:32] <zechx> (in launchpad)
[12:32] <Costel> when i log into windows it just hangs a while ..freezes..restarts
[12:32] <elifed> and both 2.6 kernels on the install CD aren't even useful
[12:33] <zechx> ooh
[12:33] <zechx> run a memory test
[12:33] <Costel> memtest86+
[12:33] <zechx> if that doesnt tell anything, try a different videocard
[12:33] <Costel> no errors
[12:33] <Costel> its new :)
[12:34] <zechx> yeah so, it can be faulty
[12:34] <zechx> if it's new you can request a replacement
[12:34] <elifed> huge2.6 (2.6.17) doesn't work very well (hardware wise, it runs stable enough)
[12:34] <Costel> no..it was tested on a similar sistem
[12:34] <elifed> test2.6 has no modules to be found...why bother?
[12:34] <zechx> then it's a motherboard issue
[12:34] <zechx> or your hdd has crashed half... i saw that once
[12:35] <predaeus> Costel, does the system or only the application freeze?
[12:35] <zechx> no wait that turned out to be a loose sata cable
[12:35] <Costel> mouse ...keyboard..
[12:35] <__bob_> hello, i have some html templates in .tpl files, and i want them to be highlighted as html in text editor. how can this be achieved?
[12:35] <Costel> cd rom works
[12:35] <zechx> so X freezes
[12:35] <elifed> zechx, I was thinking about suggesting PC-BSD to him
[12:35] <zechx> otherwise you would have gotten a black screen and or kernel panic
[12:36] <Costel> on my motherboard i saw something unusual
[12:36] <predaeus> __bob_, gedit already does highlight html
[12:36] <Costel> it may be a clue?
[12:36] <zechx> that doesn't install on my pc
[12:36] <zechx> can't get bsd to work
[12:36] <__bob_> predaeus, yes but it does not switch on highlighting for tpl files, i need to select it manually every time
[12:37] <predaeus> __bob_, oh yea now i got it sry
[12:37] <elifed> zechx, it runs good on this laptop, just the cpufreq stuff runs for like a day and then dies for some reason
[12:37] <zechx> hmm strange
[12:37] <elifed> zechx, then my fan stops working ...thermal trip
[12:37] <zechx> i've even got that working on my amd desktop
[12:37] <elifed> indeed
[12:37] <zechx> FAN STOPS!?
[12:37] <elifed> yes
[12:38] <Costel> 13 condensators have BUMBS
[12:38] <zechx> have you config'd it correctly?
[12:38] <elifed> yes
[12:38] <Costel> i dont know the work...
[12:38] <zechx> what's a BUMV
[12:38] <elifed> like I said it runs perfectly for like a day
[12:38] <zechx> BUMB*
[12:38] <zechx> maybe there's a conflicting module/deamon
[12:38] <predaeus> __bob_, looking for the file you need to edit...forgot its name
[12:38] <zechx> on boot
[12:39] <elifed> I don't see it
[12:39] <zechx> here, cpufreq works on my desktop but not on my laptop
[12:39] <Costel> those tiny pieces that look like a barol
[12:39] <Costel> i dnt know the word in EN
[12:39] <zechx> and if it's a brand laptop (ibm, toshiba) then there's all kinds of ridiculous hardware crap in it
[12:39] <elifed> nah
[12:39] <zechx> of course, all undocumented
[12:39] <__bob_> predaeus, thanks. by the way, how to insert the name of the person i reply to automatically in xchat?
[12:40] <predaeus> __bob_, I just do __b<tab> for auto complete
[12:40] <elifed> this machine was cutting edge in 2004 and still has run various unices very well
[12:40] <zechx> ___bob_ use tab
[12:40] <zechx> doesn't work that great in crowded servers though
[12:40] <__bob_> zechx: oh i see now, tried it but didn't notice that is shows me options :)
[12:40] <Fonty> Hi I just installed okle to play a dvd but it only plays the intro and then closes down, what have I done wrong?
[12:41] <zechx> hehe you need to specify more than 1 letter in this channel
[12:41] <bobreeves> Greetings. Any experts on getting CPU Frequency scaling to work?
[12:41] <__bob_> zechx: yep
[12:41] <__bob_> predaeus: is it mime-database related?
[12:41] <zechx> Fonty can you open the dvd menu?
[12:42] <zechx> bobreeves: install cpufreq
[12:42] <predaeus> __bob_, yes you can add the file ending somewhere
[12:42] <Fonty> If I do that it closes down zechx
[12:42] <zechx> hmm
[12:42] <zechx> is your dvd corrupted maybe?
[12:42] <zechx> does it play with xine?
[12:42] <zechx> or vlc player
[12:42] <bobreeves> Have a kernel problem I think. Keep getting messages 'scaling not supported'
[12:42] <Fonty> no it's ubuntu :p Nothing seems to work on it.
[12:42] <daggerr> in ubuntu/debian if I add a script to the /etc/init.d directory from where is the proper place to call it if i want to run it at startup?
[12:43] <zechx> bobreeves that depends on your processor
[12:43] <predaeus> __bob_, and then you have to update the database.
[12:43] <Fonty> I'll try xine and vlc then
[12:43] <__bob_> predaeus: ok will try now
[12:43] <zechx> dagerr it's easier to use the "startup programs"  menu (its at session's somewhere in configuration menu)
[12:43] <zechx> Fonty start with vlc
[12:44] <zechx> it can play dvd .vob files from within zip files without a single coded
[12:44] <zechx> codec*
[12:44] <zechx> can't beat that
[12:44] <Fonty> okay
[12:44] <daggerr> zechx, where do i find that menu? :) im not used to the concept of 'clicking' :D
[12:44] <zechx> ehm
[12:45] <Fonty> also what can I use to play mpeg4 files? I had mplayer for that on windows but it isn't working on ubuntu.
[12:45] <zechx> here it's Menu > Settings > Autostarted Applications
[12:45] <zechx> (xubuntu, edgy)
[12:45] <zechx> or
[12:45] <daggerr> zechx, that explains it, but thanks for the help, I'll find it somewhere
[12:45] <bobreeves> any commands I can run to get some info and help on the cpu freq problem?
[12:46] <zechx> in ubuntu it's in the Session menu
[12:46] <zechx> second tab
[12:47] <zechx> bobreeves: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MataroSessionsWorkshops/CPUFreqModuleLoading?highlight=%28cpufreq%29
[12:47] <bobreeves> thanx
[12:48] <zechx> oh wait thats not the doc
[12:48] <bobreeves> waiting...;
[12:48] <jenda> lj
[12:48] <jenda> oops
[12:49] <einand> why dos'n  kubuntu  have mozilla-firefox
[12:49] <predaeus> !return, zechx
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about return, zechx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <__bob_> predaeus: yea it's working now!
[12:49] <predaeus> !return > zechx
[12:49] <wilykat> einand: not sure, maybe because it has konqueror installed? you can still install it easily enough
[12:49] <kbrooks> I have terminal.app installed. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfce4-terminal_0.2.5.4-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[12:49] <kbrooks>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/Terminal', which is also in package terminal.app
[12:50] <kbrooks> How do I remove gnustep, etc?
[12:50] <predaeus> __bob_, how did you do it, I just did a dirty work around last time I chagned something there?
[12:50] <zechx> predaeus: sry
[12:50] <einand> wilykat: its not even in the reposerty
[12:51] <wilykat> yes it is! you might need to "sudo apt-get update" or something to make it appear if you haven't since installing
[12:51] <kbrooks> I have terminal.app installed. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfce4-terminal_0.2.5.4-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[12:51] <kbrooks>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/Terminal', which is also in package terminal.app
[12:51] <kbrooks> Any way to work it around?
[12:52] <kbrooks> I tried to remove terminal.app, but it shows
[12:52] <nikin> i ame trying to syncroinze my work  between my Desktop PC and my Notebook... but i cant find any good solution for that.... its just about 100 Megs to do... but i need rela sync... so allways the newest files are present in both side
[12:52] <kbrooks> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[12:52] <kbrooks> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:52] <kbrooks>   gnustep: Depends: terminal.app but it is not going to be installed
[12:52] <kbrooks>   xubuntu-desktop: Depends: xfce4-terminal but it is not going to be installed
[12:52] <kbrooks> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[12:52] <jkitchen> nikin: subversion / cvs
[12:53] <einand> wilykat: http://paste.se.linux.org/?id=423
[12:53] <kbrooks> How do I work this around? And no, apt-get -f install does not work.
[12:53] <nikin> jkitchen: subversion isnt one direction only?
[12:53] <nikin> and how much does it take to set one up
[12:53] <zechx> Does anyone know if the new kernel in the edgy update repo conflicts with nvidia beta driver / beryl ?
[12:53] <nikin> i have about an hour to do
[12:54] <wilykat> einand: have you got net connectivity? can you ping externally? and are you behind a router?
[12:54] <einand> wilykat: im speaking with you at the very same computer
[12:54] <wilykat> ahah
[12:54] <kbrooks> nikin, you can set subversion up on both sides, or on just one side. either way, you will be able to commit and sync files back and forth
[12:55] <nikin> kbrooks: ah so....any good tutorials on the topic?
[12:55] <wilykat> i had an issue with apt not connecting to the net when i was behind a certain linksys router, to get around it i put the dns server in manually, do you know how to do that as a try?
[12:55] <einand> wilykat: i found the issu, I forgot that i did not have internet connetion when i installed kubuntu. So did only have the cd repos
[12:55] <wilykat> ahah
[12:55] <zechx> linksys wrt54g v7?
[12:56] <lizardmenke> zechx, mine doesn't work anymore since update this morning... Feisty
[12:56] <wilykat> think it was an linksys ADSL3MUE or something
[12:56] <predaeus> nikin: probably https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[12:56] <zechx> :( just clicked on Install updates and it installed a kernel update
[12:56] <einand> lizardmenke: its the same with windows vista
[12:56] <kbrooks> I have a problem.
[12:56] <lizardmenke> lol
[12:56] <kbrooks> ** I have a problem. **
[12:57] <zechx> okay, start up a terminal....
[12:57] <kbrooks> I have terminal.app installqed. But xfce4-terminal won't install.
[12:57] <zechx> xfce4-terminal is just a command
[12:57] <zechx> it starts the default terminal
[12:57] <kbrooks> Both of them have a Terminaal executable.
[12:57] <kbrooks> zechx, *sigh*
[12:57] <kbrooks> zechx, think again.
[12:58] <kbrooks> zechx, If what you said is true, then why does dpkg choke on this Terminal executable?
[12:58] <zechx> when i start xfce4-terminal and go to About, the program is just called 'Terminal'
[12:58] <philipsmith> Help! The 4 little square desktop icons next to the trashbin in the lower right hand corner have vanished! How do I get them back?
[12:59] <zechx> Right click > Add item > Pager
[12:59] <kbrooks> zechx, Correct...
[12:59] <kbrooks> zechx, I'll show the error.
[01:00] <zechx> kbrooks: okay
[01:01] <kbrooks> zechx, Just a minute.
[01:01] <philipsmith> zechx: I don't see "pager" as a choice. I'm using Dapper.
[01:02] <kbrooks> zechx, http://rafb.net/p/KjMBTM22.html
[01:02] <kbrooks> zechx, Do you *now* understand everything absolutely clearly?
[01:02] <zechx> Im sorry philipsmith it's called pager in edgy
[01:03] <philipsmith> zechx: Thanks. How do I add that pager in Dapper?
[01:03] <natsume_> hi
[01:03] <zechx> philipsmith: it may be in an optional package. but why are you using dapper anyway?
[01:03] <kbrooks> zechx, ping.
[01:03] <zechx> pong
[01:03] <natsume_> if my graphic is using Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[01:03] <kbrooks> zechx, you do realize that dapper is LTS
[01:03] <natsume_> what driver i shud use for x ?
[01:04] <kbrooks> zechx, http://rafb.net/p/KjMBTM22.html  << <<
[01:04] <zechx> kbrooks i see it
[01:04] <philipsmith> zechx: Because I'm an old guy and need something easy and reliable that alot of other people use.
[01:04] <zechx> kbrooks: can't you just  uninstall Terminal.app?
[01:05] <kbrooks> zechx,
[01:05] <kbrooks> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[01:05] <kbrooks> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:05] <kbrooks>   gnustep: Depends: terminal.app but it is not going to be installed
[01:05] <kbrooks>   xubuntu-desktop: Depends: xfce4-terminal but it is not going to be installed
[01:05] <kbrooks> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[01:05] <zechx> philipsmith: I think the package is something like gnome-panel-extras
[01:05] <zechx> kbrooks that just means that there is a conflict
[01:06] <philipsmith> zechx: would i do: apt-get install gnome-panel-extras  ??
[01:06] <kbrooks> zechx, how do i get the conflict fixed?
[01:06] <zechx> philipsmith: no you would open synaptic and search for gnome-panel because i don't know the exact package since it is included by default in Edgy
[01:06] <[e] mdma> help me with installing netbeans on ubuntu
[01:06] <zechx> kbrorpooks
[01:06] <zechx> lol
[01:07] <kbrooks> zechx, what
[01:07] <zechx> kbrooks: remove the Terminal.app package, then install xfce4-terminal
[01:07] <sorcerer> hey how can i update the current firefox that i have?
[01:07] <kbrooks> zechx, I CANT FFS
[01:07] <sorcerer> i have firefox 1.5 .. i want 2.0
[01:07] <kbrooks> zechx, i have told you many times over thhat i can't, okay?
[01:07] <philipsmith> zechx: Ok, will try.
[01:07] <[e] mdma> sorcerer, just run update manager
[01:07] <zechx> kbrooks: or, dont install xfce4-terminal. you can't use the ubuntu metapackage though
[01:08] <kbrooks> zechx, I *want* xfce4-terminal
[01:08] <zechx> kbrooks YOU HAVE IT
[01:08] <[e] mdma> help me with installing netbeans on ubuntu
[01:08] <kbrooks> zechx, NO I DONT
[01:08] <kbrooks> zechx, IT WONT INSTALL.
[01:08] <zechx> kbrooks: afaik, xfce4-terminal and Terminal.app are both the program Terminal
[01:08] <sorcerer> [e] mdma:  you mean in the fiorfox program ?
[01:08] <philipsmith> zechx: Didn't work.
[01:09] <kbrooks> zechx, < "The following NEW packages will be installed: xfce4-terminal" <
[01:09] <[e] mdma> sorcerer,  no
[01:09] <zechx> kbrooks: are you updating?
[01:09] <[e] mdma> sorcerer,  system>update manager
[01:09] <wilykat> sorceror: if there isn't an update through the repos (sudo apt-get update ENTER sudo apt-get upgrade) then you should probably remove the distro installed FF and use the firefox download from there site.  You could make your own deb package from that too if you really wanted
[01:09] <[e] mdma> sorcerer,  system>administration>update manager
[01:09] <kbrooks> zechx, no, i'm installing xubuntu-desktop ffs. reread the thing i quoted. it says NEW!!!
[01:09] <SlimeyPete> did you actually try doing a -f install?
[01:10] <[e] mdma> help me with installing netbeans on ubuntu
[01:10] <kbrooks> SlimeyPete, yes.
[01:10] <zechx> kbrooks: i just told you, you cant use the xubuntu-desktop metapackage unless Terminall.app is uninstalled (wich you can't)
[01:10] <SlimeyPete> ok. Just checking :)
[01:10] <kbrooks> SlimeyPete: i cross my heart
[01:10] <zechx> but you knew that
[01:10] <sorcerer> [e] mdma: there seems to be no sofwareupdates when i click  check
[01:11] <richardh_> Hello everyone...anyone had problems with their swap partition recently?
[01:11] <sorcerer> [e] mdma: nothing shows up
[01:11] <zechx> kbrooks: are you running the Terminal whilst installing?
[01:11] <linuxr> anyone ever try Linux MCE?
[01:11] <[e] mdma> sorcerer,  what version of firefox u running now ?
[01:11] <kbrooks> zechx, i did a force overwrite. i will now remove terminal.app and go thru the a pt-get install sequence again.
[01:11] <sorcerer> [e] mdma: v1.5
[01:11] <Sakabatou> How to install asus wl-138g in ubuntu ?
[01:12] <predaeus> richardh_, what is the problem you've got?
[01:12] <zechx> kbrooks: you are overwriting /usr/bin/Terminal from within the same program... maybe there is a lock
[01:12] <harrisony> Sakabatou: im taking that as a wifi command
[01:12] <harrisony> *card
[01:12] <mikeconcepts> failed to fetch linux-image-2.6.20-14=generic_2.6.20-14.23_I386.deb says forbidden [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[01:12] <Sakabatou> Yes!
[01:12] <kbrooks> zechx, there is no lock, and no i am not running the terminal
[01:12] <richardh_> predaeus: well, in a nutshell: edgy update borked it somehow, I did what some howtos in bug reports told me...it's now recognized again, but somehow doesn't work 100%
[01:12] <mikeconcepts> whay does that mean?
[01:12] <kbrooks> zechx, i am running ** gnome-terminal ** ffs
[01:13] <zechx> kbrooks: what does Synaptic say is broke
[01:13] <kbrooks> zechx, not ** Terminal **
[01:13] <Sakabatou> Ive tried everything harrisony
[01:13] <richardh_> predaeus: CPU keeps heating up, and swap somehow doesn't fill up...stops at 1%
[01:13] <Sakabatou> Ndiswrapper
[01:13] <zechx> kbrooks: gnome-terminal on xubuntu!? yugh, it depends on gnome libs
[01:13] <Sakabatou> Everything fails
[01:13] <kbrooks> zechx, on ubuntu, not xubuntu
[01:13] <harrisony> Sakabatou: what methods have you tried so far
[01:13] <nikin> if i create my own subversion repo, and then i acces it from my notebook to sync file.. then it will transfer my files on the notebook to the repo if they are newer than those on the server?
[01:13] <zechx> kbrooks: i see
[01:13] <predaeus> richardh_, weird, never heard of that sry
[01:13] <kbrooks> zechx, I WANT TO INSTALL XUBUNTU FFS
[01:13] <[e] mdma> sorcerer, something wrong then
[01:14] <mikeconcepts> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb
[01:14] <mikeconcepts>   403 Forbidden [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[01:14] <[e] mdma> sorcerer, ubuntu install with 2.0
[01:14] <richardh_> predaeus: ok..thanks for listening though ;)
[01:14] <directhex|work> well this is sub-optimal considering the date. 2.6.20-14 doesn't boot on my laptop
[01:14] <zechx> kbrooks: you are trying to install xfce on ubuntul, that's not the same as xubuntu
[01:14] <[e] mdma> help me with installing netbeans on ubuntu
[01:14] <zechx> kbrooks: it would be way better to use a xubuntu cd
[01:14] <directhex|work> mikeconcepts, for the best, i suspect
[01:14] <EdgEy> does ubuntu have some sort of netinstall cd ?
[01:14] <kbrooks> zechx, no, i installed xubuntu-desktop and got that error ffs
[01:14] <Sakabatou> harrisony, tired to use ndiswrapper and uding it wit a windows driver, 3 of them in seperate ocasions
[01:14] <harrisony> EdgEy: it does would you like me to get a link
[01:14] <Sakabatou> *using
[01:14] <kbrooks> zechx, you are _just guessing_ at things.
[01:14] <EdgEy> please
[01:14] <harrisony> Sakabatou:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs ?
[01:15] <zechx> kbrooks: no, just download the xubuntu cd and install it
[01:15] <Sakabatou> Tried, the card is unsupported with linux
[01:15] <zechx> instead of trying to have both
[01:15] <mikeconcepts> directhex|work, should I stall doing any of the 35 updates until this clears?
[01:15] <kbrooks> zechx, i'd rather not. i have no blank cds, etc.
[01:15] <zechx> kbrooks: then i can't help you
[01:15] <kbrooks> zechx, and i have very little money
[01:15] <kbrooks> zechx, besides, i jus t fixed it.
[01:16] <sorcerer> [e] mdma: well mine says 1.5
[01:16] <Enverex> kbrooks, What are you trying to do?
[01:16] <[e] mdma> sorcerer,  have you tried to downloads from firefox website ?
[01:16] <[e] mdma> help me with installing netbeans on ubuntu
[01:16] <kbrooks> Enverex, ... what are you trying to do, interfere this? ffs im leaving bye
[01:17] <Enverex> ... gimp
[01:17] <sorcerer> no i havent just
[01:17] <directhex|work> mikeconcepts, nah, they should be fine. but bug 106063 seems to be the killer
[01:17] <velko> nikin: i'm not sure what you want to accomplish but if you want to syncronize two directories (and not manage text files) subversion is the wrong tool. you want probably something like unison
[01:17] <sorcerer> do i just run it on the browser
[01:17] <Miss-Ashi> how can i play vob files?
[01:17] <sorcerer> download or have to use the terminal
[01:17] <velko> nikin: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7712
[01:18] <mikeconcepts> directhex|work, thanks, will go read bug info at launchpad I assume
[01:18] <YNWA> Hi can anyone help with getting feisty to recognise my NTFS partitions?
[01:18] <harrisony> !ntfs | YNWA
[01:18] <bobreeves> help! noob can't get frequency scaling to work - kernel problem I think...
[01:18] <ubotu> YNWA: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:18] <smartkids> #ubuntu-in
[01:18] <sogen> w szczecinie
[01:18] <sogen> woopswrong window
[01:19] <sogen> can someone help me mount cd rw?
[01:19] <YNWA> I tried that - it "ignored" all my NTFS partitions... :(
[01:19] <sogen> sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide dont works
[01:19] <[e] mdma> help me with installing netbeans on ubuntu
[01:19] <nikin> velko:: the concept is to sync my 2 PC-s for my work files.... i want just a command... and that  then the newest files are on bot maschines
[01:19] <lizardmenke> ! screen
[01:19] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[01:20] <velko> nikin: subversion is not what you want. take a look at unison
[01:20] <nikin> velko :D i will..
[01:20] <YNWA> so... :'(
[01:20] <jiii> I'm getting this error: "Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library" and I am also having problems with APT falling back to the "C" locale because it can not find mine.. how can I fix this?
[01:21] <harrisony> !netinstall | EdgEy
[01:21] <ubotu> EdgEy: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:21] <harrisony> !vob
[01:21] <Fonty> movie player in edgy says it needs a plugin to play dvd's, what is the plugin that needs installing?
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vob - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <harrisony> Fonty: its called libdvdcss2
[01:22] <harrisony> !dvd | Fonty
[01:22] <ubotu> Fonty: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:22] <velko> jiii: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" or "sudo apt-get install locales localeconf"
[01:22] <YNWA> the it diskmounter says already in /etc/fstab, what does that mean?
[01:22] <Fonty> thanks harrisony
[01:22] <jiii> velko: did that already, it does not work.
[01:22] <harrisony> Fonty: was my pleasure
[01:22] <velko> jiii: both of them or only the first one?
[01:23] <sorcerer> how can i get the new version of firefox i have v1,5 ?
[01:23] <jiii> velko: the first one does not work
[01:23] <YNWA> ... anyone?
[01:23] <SlimeyPete> YNWA: /etc/fstab maps device names onto the directories in which they should be mounted. Looks like you're trying to mount something which is already in the /etc/fstab file.
[01:23] <mikeconcepts> directhex|work, where is bug info for bug 106063, trouble finding
[01:23] <velko> jiii: the first command assumes you have installed and configures your locales. the second one installs and configures the locale packages.
[01:24] <directhex|work> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106063
[01:24] <YNWA> SlimeyPete: But I can't see them....!
[01:24] <YNWA> (The drives, I mean)
[01:24] <SlimeyPete> YNWA: you mean they're not mounted, or they're not in /etc/fstab?
[01:24] <jiii> velko: I know, but the re-configuring only says some locales are already up to date..
[01:25] <velko> jiii: therefore you need the localeconf package
[01:25] <jiii> velko: the locale I want to use, is among those "up-to-date"
[01:25] <dooglus> I'm trying to remove a package, but getting an error:  chris@ubuntu:/tmp$ sudo apt-get remove --purge emacs22     Reading package lists... Done     Segmentation faulty tree... 0%
[01:25] <velko> jiii: not only locale
[01:25] <YNWA> they're not mounted, I think...
[01:25] <YNWA> SlimeyPete: would you like to see the /etc/fstab file on a pastebin somewhere?
[01:25] <jiii> velko: the localeconf package has not helped me either
[01:26] <piete1> hi all
[01:26] <velko> jiii: what do you mean by that? do you installed it? configured?
[01:26] <SlimeyPete> YNWA: try opening /etc/fstab ("gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" from a terminal), finding the line which refers to the device you're trying to mount, and then putting a # in front of said line.
[01:26] <YNWA> okay
[01:26] <jiii> velko: yes, installed and configured, but the errors remain the same
[01:27] <dooglus> what should I do when I see the "Segmentation faulty tree... 0%" error from apt-get?
[01:27] <velko> jiii: by configured you mean that you have selected some utf locale?
[01:27] <UberPsyX> hi, i have a problem with my wireless connection, i just lost my connection after about 5mins after setting it up and cant reconnect, i can see the router on wifi-radar but cant get the IP. any ideas?
[01:27] <jiii> velko: yes.
[01:27] <YNWA> SlimeyPete:the # are already there
[01:27] <piete1> can anybody help me whit point to point connections between a win pc an a ubuntu pc ?
[01:27] <SlimeyPete> YNWA: ok... copy-paste the contents of the file into another file so that you have a backup. Then delete the lines with the # symbols.
[01:27] <velko> jiii: what is your default locale? "echo $LC_ALL"
[01:28] <YNWA> alrighty
[01:28] <jiii> velko: sv_SE.UTF-8
[01:28] <velko> jiii: and this locale is installed and configured? if so i have no idea what might have gone wrong
[01:29] <SlimeyPete> YNWA: I'm going to go to lunch now. Hopefully removing those lines will help you. If not, then good luck :)
[01:29] <YNWA> I deleted those lines...
[01:29] <SlimeyPete> does it work now?
[01:29] <jiii> velko: I am not sure how to verify it is installed and configured properly, but those are the choices I made
[01:29] <dice14u> Anyone I have a ENE card reader, and cant find drivers for it anyone got one or an alternative
[01:30] <YNWA> do you mean delete the # or the whole line?
[01:30] <velko> jiii: did you installed/configured these packages right now or before some update/upgrade?
[01:30] <jiii> velko: fresh install
[01:30] <SlimeyPete> YNWA: delete the line. The error you're getting suggests that it's trying to add some lines but is getting confused because they're already there.
[01:30] <CheesyJedi> hey guys
[01:31] <velko> jiii: this means no updates since the fresh install?
[01:31] <SlimeyPete> YNWA: I have to go now, sorry.
[01:31] <YNWA> okay no probs
[01:31] <jiii> velko: no, the packages were directly from the servers..
[01:31] <CheesyJedi> in the grub menu I now have to versions of ubuntu to boot to (looks like to different kernel versions or something) where before I had one...what should I do to get rid of the other one?
[01:32] <dice14u_> sorry connection failed if anyone responded about the ENE cardbus please resend
[01:32] <velko> jiii: which program gives you this error message?
[01:33] <dice14u_> menu.lst edit it
[01:33] <dice14u_> Cheesyjedi in the /boot/grub/ folder there is a menu.lst
[01:33] <dice14u_> edit it
[01:34] <CheesyJedi> ok
[01:34] <variant> CheesyJedi: you would be best to un install the old kernels..
[01:34] <CheesyJedi> thanks
[01:34] <CheesyJedi> how?
[01:34] <defrysk> CheesyJedi, maybe its a good idea to uninstal the obsoleted kernels with synaptic ?
[01:34] <variant> CheesyJedi: otherwise they will stil be lying around and the next time you update will be re added to grub.conf/menu.lst i think
[01:34] <defrysk> CheesyJedi, in that process grub will clean up automagically
[01:34] <CheesyJedi> ok, what do I search for in synaptic?
[01:35] <jiii> velko: think I solved it now.
[01:35] <velko> jiii: how?
[01:35] <defrysk> CheesyJedi, I presume linux-generic
[01:35] <CheesyJedi> ok
[01:35] <YNWA> hi - the mounter says my NTFS partitions are mounted, but they're not
[01:35] <jiii> velko: exporting the LC_ALL variable in /etc/environment. Obviously it was only partially set.
[01:36] <babo> guys, where can I go to add fonts to my system ?
[01:36] <jiii> velko: thank you for your time
[01:36] <YNWA> apparently I'm supposed to see them now, but I can't
[01:36] <CheesyJedi> ok, I've got one that's 2.6.17.10-generic and another that's 2.6.17.11-generic
[01:36] <velko> jiii: very strange. you're welcome
[01:36] <CheesyJedi> I wanna uninstall the .10, right?
[01:37] <noob_> hey everybody just a quick Q
[01:37] <defrysk> CheesyJedi, yes and also remove linux-image-<oldversion>
[01:37] <noob_> how do i add files to the /etc folder? it wants root permissions
[01:37] <dice14u_> sudo
[01:37] <YNWA> anyone?
[01:37] <UberPsyX> does anyone know if beryl will work with 128MB ram and an nvidia nv5m64
[01:37] <Gambaroni> When I try to connect to my TFTP with PXE the log says: cannot bind to local socket: Permission denied. Why?
[01:37] <CheesyJedi> defrysk: ya, that's what it is
[01:37] <noob_> so i just go sudo root?
[01:37] <defrysk> CheesyJedi, cool
[01:37] <dice14u_> nah sudo and then the shell command
[01:38] <dice14u_> sudo means run as root
[01:38] <YNWA> the mounter says my NTFS partitions are mounted, but they're not
[01:38] <noob_> which is? layman terms
[01:38] <defrysk> CheesyJedi, just make sure to remove the correct packages ;-)
[01:38] <C3s4r> You don't have permission to access /ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb on this server.
[01:38] <sogen> can someone help me mount cd rom ?
[01:38] <CheesyJedi> ya
[01:38] <CheesyJedi> ok
[01:38] <CheesyJedi> thanks
[01:38] <CheesyJedi> I have another question
[01:38] <YNWA> ...?
[01:38] <Vio> darn, i can't enter my computer no more..
[01:38] <dice14u_> YNWA they might not be mounted correctly
[01:39] <CheesyJedi> is VLC known not to work right when beryl is running?
[01:39] <YNWA> dice14u_: please elaborate
[01:39] <Stig> Can someone help please? I am trying to install nvidia linux graphics drivers for my nvidia 7900GS card. I downloaded the file from here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9755.html and went to terminal and typed "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run" and it's saying "sh: Can't open ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run". I also tired to change file permissions by typing "chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-
[01:39] <Stig> pkg1.run" and it said "chmod: cannot access `NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run': No such file or directory", but the file is on my desktop!!!!!!
[01:39] <CheesyJedi> cuz I had beryl going, and with vlc I got a black screen when trying to play a movie (there was sound though)
[01:39] <Vio> both beryl and compiz are runing at the same time, and all i see is white
[01:39] <noob_> so guys to write something to root i need to use the terminal program?
[01:39] <Vio> is there a command i can use to enter "fail-safe-gnome"?
[01:40] <dice14u_> YNWA one mounting an ntfs partition needs more then just mount and the file type
[01:40] <defrysk> Stig, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx might be easyer ?
[01:40] <Vio> noob_: yeah..
[01:40] <dice14u_> YNWA it needs proper flags
[01:40] <dice14u_> YNWA i found it worked better using ntfsmount
[01:40] <Lbawinowns> Hello, I can't edit In mine etc\ folder, I think I have not mounted my disk or something
[01:40] <YNWA> dice14u_: a program?
[01:40] <Mountb79> how do i make azureus the default bit torrent client? i dont know where it's located so i can point firefox to it
[01:40] <dice14u_> yeah
[01:40] <YNWA> okay thank
[01:40] <YNWA> s
[01:41] <directhex|work> Stig, don't do what you're doing
[01:41] <Stig> defrysk, thanks. I am new to Ubuntu so I'm not familiar with the commands.... Is there a good tutorial on how to GFX drivers anywhere? for my card.
[01:41] <C3s4r> alguien que entienda el espaol?
[01:41] <directhex|work> Stig, you can cause MAJOR problems by trying to use unpackaged nvidia drivers
[01:41] <defrysk> !es
[01:41] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:41] <Vio> !default settings
[01:42] <defrysk> Stig, sudo apt-get install nvida-glx ; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:42] <Stig> How do I install the drivers from the nvidia site then?
[01:42] <defrysk> Stig, ther nrestart x
[01:42] <C3s4r> W: Fall al obtener http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb  403 Forbidden [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[01:42] <defrysk> Stig, thats it
[01:42] <Stig> ok
[01:42] <directhex|work> Stig, why do you want the drivers from the nvidia site?
[01:43] <Stig> "E: Couldn't find package nvida-glx"
[01:43] <Lbawinowns> Noone know why I can't acces my etc folder? I think I can't reach other folder either
[01:43] <dice14u_> C3s4 forbidden is nothing you can change
[01:43] <babo> guys, where can I go to add fonts to my system ? Ubuntu doesn't come with verdana ?
[01:43] <babo> wtf ?
[01:43] <directhex|work> Stig, do you have "restricted" sources enabled
[01:43] <Stig> I just thought it would be easier, like I said I'm completely new to all this :) I was a Windows user before, so I'm used to just clicking the .exe
[01:43] <Vio> i badly need some help, i got beryl+compiz+aiglx running at the same time, i can't change my session-login (coz i changed my background in the login-window) how can i remove beryl-manager+
[01:43] <Vio> ?
[01:43] <directhex|work> babo, verdana is a copyrighted microsoft font
[01:43] <directhex|work> babo, but you want "msttcorefonts"
[01:43] <babo> ahh
[01:44] <Stig> directhex|work, I don't know, how do I find out?
[01:44] <babo> directhex|work, what about comic book sans ?
[01:44] <noob_> could someone pls give me a quick answer like as in the string i need to type in sorry i am a noob i just need to put a file called wpasupplicant in there im enabling my box for WPA wireless security
[01:44] <defrysk> !repos > Stig
[01:44] <directhex|work> Stig, system, administration, synaptic package manager
[01:44] <C3s4r> dice14u_  I cannot unload the package
[01:45] <Lbawinowns> How do i simply mount my disk. I cant acces \etc\apt\sources.list
[01:45] <dice14u_> C3s4r thats because its restricted thats nothing you can change
[01:45] <Stig> yep, I'm in the Synaptic package manager
[01:45] <dice14u_> its on the server
[01:45] <directhex|work> babo, yes, that's pulled in by msttcorefonts
[01:45] <CheesyJedi> hey
[01:45] <babo> directhex|work, :-)
[01:46] <YNWA> wha'ts fuse?
[01:46] <directhex|work> Stig, settings, repositories
[01:46] <CheesyJedi> does anyone know if vlc has an issue playing while Beryl is running?
[01:46] <dice14u_> noob_ you probably want a wpasupplicant front end like klan or something
[01:46] <noob_> could someone pls tell me what to type in to add a file called wpasupplicant to the /ect folder?
[01:46] <directhex|work> YNWA, an API for doing filesystem drivers in userspace instead of in the kernel
[01:46] <dice14u_> *kwlan
[01:46] <dooglus> noob_: "sudo touch /ect/wpasupplicant"
[01:46] <noob_> thanks so much!
[01:47] <Kigh> dooglus: LOL
[01:47] <Stig> Proprietary drivers for devices (restricted) is ticked.
[01:47] <dooglus> Kigh: ?
[01:47] <Kigh> ect :)
[01:47] <dooglus> Kigh: how would *you* add a file to the /ect 'folder' then?
[01:47] <YNWA> arrrrgh, it keeps saying that my NTFS filesystems are mounted, but I cant see them....!!
[01:47] <dice14u_> umount
[01:48] <CheesyJedi> hey, how can I see how much sppace I have left on my linux partition?
[01:48] <dice14u_> YNWA umount it and try it with ntfsmount
[01:48] <cafuego> CheesyJedi: df
[01:48] <YNWA> I did, it still says it's mounted... :(
[01:48] <dice14u_> YNWA fmask=0111,dmask=0
[01:48] <directhex|work> Stig, erm... odd. enable universe and multivers while you're there. and hit close
[01:49] <cafuego> YNWA: You probably need to mount it with the correct options to make it readable as user.
[01:49] <dice14u_> YNWA umount it
[01:49] <Lbawinowns> Hey guys, why dont I have acces to the linux folders?
[01:49] <Stig> "nvidia-glx is already the newest version."
[01:49] <CheesyJedi> df?
[01:49] <dice14u_> YNWA "sudo ntfsmount -o fmask=0111,dmask=0
[01:49] <directhex|work> Stig, now you're giving conflicting information
[01:49] <dice14u_> then the stuff
[01:49] <cafuego> CheesyJedi: df. (df -h)
[01:49] <dice14u_> or -o after the other args
[01:49] <sogen> how i can mound cd rom when i mount nromal i have that error http://wklej.org/id/080bfea3ec
[01:49] <dice14u_> erg
[01:49] <root__> !postfix
[01:49] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[01:50] <CheesyJedi> oh, ok
[01:50] <CheesyJedi> thanks
[01:50] <CheesyJedi> and how do I do it so I see it in GB instead of bytes (or KB, or whatever it is)
[01:51] <Stig> I followed the commands defrysk said earlier, after unticking the restricted box and I think it's done...
[01:51] <dooglus> CheesyJedi: -h
[01:51] <CheesyJedi> ah
[01:51] <CheesyJedi> thanks
[01:51] <dooglus> CheesyJedi: (for 'human')
[01:51] <CheesyJedi> great
[01:51] <savetheWorld> CheesyJedi? << interesting nick, I suppose you have cheesychlorians?
[01:51] <CheesyJedi> lol
[01:51] <YNWA> it says to Use the force option to work a mounted filesystem.
[01:51] <savetheWorld> :-)
[01:51] <CheesyJedi> I guess so ;)
[01:51] <Stig> universe and multiverse were already enabled
[01:51] <dice14u_> Anyone I have an ENE card reader and there are no linux drivers does anyone know of an alternative
[01:52] <gordonjcp> what's an ENE card?
[01:52] <CheesyJedi> hey, I have another question
[01:52] <png> !xchat-systray
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat-systray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <dice14u_> YNWA does it ask anything about fuse?
[01:52] <YNWA> nope
[01:52] <Lbawinowns> Please someone help I cant even edit any linux file :(
[01:52] <CheesyJedi> I was trying to run VLC while Beryl was running, and it gave me a blank screen (with sound)...it runs fine without beryl
[01:52] <dice14u_> Lbawinowns edit stuff as root
[01:52] <CheesyJedi> is there a workaround for theis?
[01:53] <Lbawinowns> How do i do that, I want to edit my /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:53] <Stig> OK, I restarted the X server and a white Nvidia screen popped up, then I logged back in... so I think it could be working now.
[01:53] <gordonjcp> Lbawinowns: you could use "sudo"
[01:53] <directhex|work> Stig, "glxinfo | grep direct"
[01:53] <Lbawinowns> what is the exact command?
[01:53] <Stig> How do I see if the nvidia drivers are installed?
[01:53] <Stig> k
[01:53] <Stig> direct rendering: Yes
[01:54] <jrib> !sudo > Lbawinowns    (Lbawinowns, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:54] <YNWA> so what I do?
[01:54] <Stig> yay!!!
[01:54] <Stig> Beryl is working now! :)
[01:54] <dice14u_> YNWA well the force option is -o force
[01:54] <dice14u_> try umount first
[01:55] <dice14u_> though
[01:55] <Stig> directhex|work, thank you very very much for your help... and the other guy too.
[01:55] <EdgEy> stig, nvidia logo = theyre installed
[01:55] <EdgEy> :p
[01:55] <sogen> how i can mound cd rom when i mount nromal i have that error http://wklej.org/id/080bfea3ec
[01:55] <Stig> =)
[01:56] <quaal> is k3b not able to burn mp3's to an audio disc
[01:56] <quaal> unable to convert them ?
[01:56] <war_> i am tryin to update my apt sources without a proxy but still apt is using a proxy .... how can this be fixed.........apt-get update -o Apt::Acquire::Http::Proxy= ""Err http://10.3.140.50 testing Release.gpg
[01:56] <war_>   Could not connect to 10.3.100.212:3128 (10.3.100.212). - connect (113 No route to host)
[01:56] <dice14u_> sogen wrong file format type
[01:56] <svg> anyone else with problems in last feisty kernel updates (-14)?
[01:57] <quaal> it says Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
[01:57] <sogen> dice14u_: that mean ?
[01:57] <quaal> for every mp3 i put in the list
[01:57] <YNWA> the -o force doesn't work :(
[01:57] <penba> Hi. Is there a way of mounting a qemu .img file? Something like mounting an .iso, perhaps?
[01:57] <Stig> How do I choose which Emerald themes to use? I am in the Emerald themer 0.2.0 and I see a list of themes, but how do I use them? :S
[01:57] <sogen> dice14u_: sorry im n00b :P
[01:57] <jrib> war_: do you have a proxy set somewhere?
[01:57] <_Neil> hey guys, if i swap in and out of a virtual terminal and back to x a few times, it hangs on a black screen with just a mouse... same as if I resume from suspend!
[01:57] <_Neil> any ideas
[01:57] <sogen> dice14u_: whta format should be ?
[01:58] <vio> how can i force my laptop (amd64 runing 32-bit ubuntu-feisty) to not go over 800mhz (i has 3 steps. 800mhz 1600mhz and 2000mhz)?
[01:58] <quaal> is k3b not able to write mp3 files to an audio cd? its saying Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported for every mp3 file i try putting in the project
[01:59] <gecew> hi
[01:59] <directhex|work> quaal, have you followed the restrictedformats section of the ubuntu wiki?
[01:59] <Kigh> quaal: maybe you do not have mp3 codec installed?
[01:59] <quaal> Kigh, i can play mp3 files
[01:59] <directhex|work> quaal, to deal with the whole "!unsupported patented mp3 codec" thing?
[01:59] <vio> !force mhz
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about force mhz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <quaal> directhex|work, i have not
[01:59] <vio> !speedstep
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speedstep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <ubd> hi, if i compile and install a program from a directory, do i have to keep that directory to keep that program work?
[02:00] <directhex|work> vio, what are you trying to do?
[02:00] <vio> need to know how i can force 800mhz on my laptop using ubuntu
[02:00] <sogen> dice14u_: you there?
[02:00] <dice14u_> sogen -t iso9660
[02:00] <directhex|work> ubd, depends on whether you used "make" or "make install" and whether the program needs any extra files to work
[02:00] <sogen> dice14u_: can you give me full comand /
[02:00] <rausb0> vio: is that the lowest speed of the cpu?
[02:00] <jrib> ubd: not if you installed it.  But depending on how you installed it, you *may* need that source directory to uninstall the program later
[02:00] <ernz> Hello, can someone assist me please? I am having trouble with my external USB disk connection. My onboard USB is 2.0 and it works, but I am copying from an external USB hard disk and my copy rates are incredibly slow!! (about 3 hours for 4.5 GB) Any suggestions are welcome.
[02:00] <vio> rausb0: yes
[02:01] <Kigh> quaal: maybe you have the converter missing, that k3b depends on
[02:01] <quaal> Kigh, do you know the apt-get name ?
[02:01] <Kigh> i dont know which one k3b uses.
[02:01] <rausb0> vio: you could kill powernowd and set the speed manually using the sys filesystem
[02:01] <Kigh> if you find that out, you can get the packages name with "apt-cache search <progname>"
[02:01] <directhex|work> vio, you could disable powernowd and run "echo 8000000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq"
[02:01] <dice14u_> sogen " mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /cdrom/" where /cdrom/ is the directory your mounting to
[02:02] <directhex|work> vio, but that's a bit of a hack
[02:02] <rausb0> directhex|work: not scaling_cur_freq but scaling_setspeed
[02:02] <vio> directhex|work: how can i disable powernowd?
[02:02] <rausb0> vio: sudo killall powernowd
[02:02] <vio> ty
[02:02] <ubd> which one depends on source dir - make or make install?
[02:02] <Kigh> vio: "sudo rm /etc/rc?.d/*powernowd"
[02:02] <directhex|work> or /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[02:02] <Kigh> and "killall powernowd"
[02:03] <Kigh> or what directhex|work says
[02:03] <vio> omg, i know there is a better way to do this,
[02:03] <directhex|work> ubd, "make install" installs all required files into the prefix specified when you ran ./configure
[02:03] <Kigh> vio: "sudo rm /etc/rc?.d/*powernowd" will disable it at boot-time.
[02:03] <directhex|work> vio, there is, but you're not giving us all the information we need
[02:03] <directhex|work> vio, so you're getting tiny snippets of disparate information
[02:03] <rausb0> vio: btw, it's 800000, not 8000000 :)
[02:03] <vio> Di:tell me what you need
[02:04] <vio> directhex|work: tell me what you need to know
[02:04] <directhex|work> vio, what you want to do and why
[02:04] <vio> directhex|work: when i plug my computer out and go to the sun i want the battery to "last longer" by forcing 800mhz it will
[02:04] <sorcerer> hey guys .. how can i know what i need to do to install beryl ???
[02:04] <CyaNox> Hi I have some problems removing a package ... it says: E: The package awcommon needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[02:04] <dice14u_> anyone know of drivers for a ENE card reader device
[02:05] <vio> sorcerer: #ubuntu-effects
[02:05] <CyaNox> I tried: dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq awcommon but with no success
[02:05] <CyaNox> apparently the remove script gives errors
[02:05] <vio> directhex|work: what i mean, is that i want to be able to configure my "speed" at any time i feel like it, is there no program i can use?
[02:05] <CyaNox> I am not sure where that remove script is or how to fix this ... I could use some help
[02:05] <directhex|work> vio, you want manual control at all times?
[02:06] <vio> directhex|work: yes
[02:06] <vio> directhex|work: we can do this at a later point
[02:07] <vio> directhex|work:  gotta get some sun before it dissapears
[02:07] <mokchin> vio, that's what powernowd is for. It delivers that extra thurst to CPU when your program consumes more CPU cycles
[02:07] <vio> mokchin: that's the problem, its almost allways over 800mhz, and the fan goes, more power etc..
[02:08] <vio> its better that the program loads slower than to have the extra power
[02:08] <mokchin> vio, so shut it down if you don't want it. sudo "/etc/init.d/powernowd stop"
[02:08] <malcome> hi
[02:08] <tabman> ubuntu is giving me a strange problem, right now I'm using Windows and my network is all setup & internet is working fine as soon as I switch to Ubuntu, my internet is out, I do ifup eth0 and it says the interface or whatever is already configured, I don't know how to resolve this issue ?
[02:08] <mokchin> vio, "sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop"
[02:08] <sorcerer> how do i know which version of ubuntu i have
[02:08] <vio> mokchin: sudo: /etc/init.d/powernowd stop: command not found
[02:09] <mokchin> tabman, sudo dhclient eth0
[02:09] <jrib> !version | sorcerer
[02:09] <ubotu> sorcerer: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[02:09] <mokchin> vio, go to your /etc/init.d/ directory
[02:09] <mokchin> vio, ok try this instead, "sudo invoke-rc.d powernowd stop"
[02:09] <tabman> mokchin: I'm on windows right now, if I shift to Ubuntu my internet will be out & I won't be able to chat here :) I have a laptop through which I can communicate but internet still won't be available on Ubuntu
[02:09] <ra21vi> whne is feisty released?
[02:09] <directhex|work> vio, what does "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" say?
[02:10] <mokchin> tabman, you can't switch ubuntu's wireless from windows
[02:10] <sorcerer> it says draper .. now what berly do i need for that
[02:10] <Lunar_Lamp> !java
[02:10] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:10] <vio> powernowd:   cpu0: 800Mhz - 2000Mhz (4 steps)
[02:10] <tabman> mokchin: I'm not using wireless internet, direct connection of my cable modem into the ethernet card
[02:11] <jrib> sorcerer: if you want beryl, it will be a lot easier if you upgrade your ubuntu
[02:11] <vio> directhex|work: ng_governor and userspace
[02:11] <mokchin> tabman, wahtever. you can't configure ubuntu's internet using windows.
[02:11] <jrib> sorcerer: but go to #ubuntu-effects for help with beryl, maybe someone there disagrees with me
[02:11] <HymnToLife> mokchin, yes he can
[02:11] <mokchin> tabman, reboot your ubuntu and then issue a command at your terminal "sudo dhclient eth0".
[02:11] <Xintruder> hi
[02:11] <HymnToLife> it's just editing a text file...
[02:11] <mokchin> HymnToLife, well,
[02:11] <sorcerer> wait how do i upgrade my ubuntu
[02:11] <sorcerer> i just want to make it easier
[02:11] <tabman> mokchin: I know I can't but what should I do, if I log into Ubuntu I won't have the internet in it to chat with you guys here
[02:11] <Xintruder> Im new to ubuntu, how can I install xchat ?
[02:11] <mokchin> HymnToLife, techincally you can.
[02:12] <HymnToLife> Xintruder, sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:12] <tabman> mokchin: ok i'll try this command, anything else ?
[02:12] <mokchin> HymnToLife, /etc/dhclient but.. we are talking simple scenarios here
[02:12] <EdgEy> Xintruder, open a terminal using the start menu and what HymnToLife said :p
[02:12] <directhex|work> Xintruder, applications, add/remove, "xchat", tick the box
[02:12] <vio> thanks for the help, i really dont have time for this :)
[02:12] <vio> atm
[02:12] <ra21vi> guys, when is feisty being released? i need to know
[02:12] <vio> take care
[02:12] <EdgEy> ra21 19th i think
[02:12] <HymnToLife> !xchat
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <mokchin> vio, goodluck
[02:12] <ra21vi> EdgEy: ok
[02:12] <vio> ra21vi: #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <HymnToLife> !info xchat edgyh
[02:12] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[02:12] <HymnToLife> Xintruder, you'll need to enable !universe too
[02:12] <ra21vi> vio: no, i dont need to ask this from developers
[02:13] <mokchin> vio, are you sure you have powernowd installed ?
[02:13] <dice14u_> hey when is fiesty fully finished?
[02:13] <vio> mokchin: yes i'm pretty sure
[02:13] <dice14u_> and how would i update to it
[02:13] <tabman> mokchin: anything else other then dhclient eth0 ?
[02:13] <kraut> moin
[02:13] <mokchin> vio, can you please paste your "/proc/cpuinfo" before and after running a CPU intensive program ?
[02:14] <HymnToLife> tabman, just configure the IP infos the same way they are in Win
[02:14] <mokchin> tabman, no. just make sure your interface is up and running first with "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[02:14] <xinxin> Sorry i d/c
[02:14] <vio> mokchin: can we do it a little bit later
[02:14] <mokchin> !paste
[02:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:14] <vio> i really gotta go
[02:14] <Xintruuder> what did anyone last tell me ?
[02:14] <mokchin> vio, whatever suits you.
[02:14] <jrib> dice14u_: the release is scheduled for some time around the 19th
[02:14] <jrib> !upgrade > dice14u_    (dice14u_, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:14] <vio> thanks, take care :)
[02:15] <mokchin> np
[02:15] <fen> does anyone here know of a pcmcia cards with native linux support that is commonly available in australia?
[02:15] <fen> wireless 802.11b/g i should add
[02:15] <mokchin> fen, sure. you change nick a lot. ;-)
[02:15] <mokchin> heh
[02:16] <fen> what?
[02:16] <mokchin> nothing
[02:16] <fen> ive never been here before, so i've no idea who your talking about
[02:16] <mokchin> fen, no worries mate.
[02:16] <fen> any ideas?
[02:17] <mokchin> fen, try #linux my friend.
[02:17] <mokchin> fen, /join #linux
[02:17] <Kigh> fen: /join #yourdistribution
[02:17] <Kigh> not #linux
[02:17] <fen> kigh you mean like ubuntu?
[02:17] <bef> Ubuntu 9.1 is great!!!!
[02:17] <_Neil> fen
[02:17] <_Neil> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[02:17] <mokchin> Kigh, he/she is talking about Linux support for pcmcia cards
[02:17] <highvoltage> Kigh: there's no one in #yourdistribution
[02:17] <_Neil> look here
[02:17] <bjohan> is there anything strange about the cryptoloops and cryptos in ubuntu? i have an encrypted usb-memory and when i set up the cryptoloops it does not get decrypted properly, that means still junk on the paritition
[02:17] <Kigh> fen: right. #ubuntu
[02:17] <mokchin> Kigh, not specific to any distro.
[02:18] <mokchin> Kigh, If 1 distro's got drivers, every other distro has it.
[02:18] <_Neil> look whats available in some aus stores, look it up on that site, and bam
[02:18] <bef> I just can't get over how brilliant 9.1 is
[02:18] <Kigh> mokchin: but in #ubuntu he'll get better support
[02:18] <jrib> bef: 9.1 doesn't exist though
[02:18] <Kigh> mokchin: not correct.
[02:18] <coker87> join #manokwari
[02:18] <bef> jrib: yes it does, just was released.
[02:18] <mokchin> Kigh, whatever
[02:18] <Kigh> mokchin: regarding restricted modules ..
[02:18] <mokchin> Kigh, if you wanna sit here and argue that's fine with me.
[02:19] <mokchin> Kigh, i got better things to do.
[02:19] <bjohan> any one tried using losetup in ubuntu? :)
[02:19] <Kigh> you argued.
[02:19] <bef> jrib: it's called Gerrards Gullet.
[02:19] <Kigh> :D
[02:19] <jrib> bef: do you have a support question?
[02:19] <_Neil> thats a good site actually, we should add it to the factoid: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[02:19] <bef> jrib: no?
[02:19] <_Neil> lets u check linux compatibility with any wireless card
[02:19] <jrib> !offtopic | bef
[02:19] <ubotu> bef: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:20] <Kigh> mokchin: heh. thought i was on #freenode-social ..
[02:20] <bef> how is talking about a release of ubuntu offtopic.
[02:20] <mokchin> heh
[02:20] <mokchin> ;)
[02:20] <bef> !ubuntu | jrib
[02:20] <ubotu> jrib: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[02:20] <mokchin> haha
[02:20] <jrib> bef: this channel is for support, we talk about things not related to support in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:20] <Kigh> -.-
[02:20] <_Neil> !wireless
[02:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:21] <_Neil> Can anyone edit the ubuntu wikies?
[02:21] <_Neil> wikis*
[02:21] <jrib> _Neil: yes, I think you have to register though
[02:21] <bef> Neil > some require you to be logged in.
[02:21] <_Neil> cool
[02:21] <_Neil> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ this should be added to wireless, just found it
[02:21] <_Neil> will save people loads of itme
[02:21] <iMilad> How should i find out if a xvid file has qpeg?
[02:22] <sorcerer> when i run this command .. it says invalid option --c  gksu update-manager -c 
[02:22] <Stig> how do I log out of root in terminal? will it logout automatically when I edit the terminal?
[02:22] <Stig> exit*
[02:23] <jrib> Stig: yeah, just type "exit"
[02:23] <Stig> Thanks
[02:24] <jrib> sorcerer: you typed exactly this:   gksu "update-manager -c"    ?
[02:24] <sorcerer> jrib: yeah i did
[02:25] <mokchin> sorcerer, it's "-c" not "--c"
[02:25] <sorcerer> jrib: it says it cannot install on update and shws this files .. libwnck18
[02:25] <Stig> In Beryl, when I put my mouse pointer over a tab in the bottom panel, it brings up a mini sized window showing what it is. For example, if I now put my mouse over XChat, it brings up a mini picture of Xchat, but seems to make it quite slow... how do I disable that. I hope you know what I'm talking about!
[02:25] <sorcerer> okj its working
[02:25] <frying_fish> Stig: it is the thumbnail preview in the settings
[02:25] <Stig> kk
[02:26] <IdleOne> Stig, #ubuntu-effects for help with beryl
[02:26] <Stig> ok thanks
[02:26] <sorcerer> now will all the changes like to pannels and all change after the upgrade?
[02:26] <sogen> can someone help me mount cd rom :(
[02:26] <jrib> sorcerer: your changes should persist after the upgrade, yes
[02:26] <mokchin> jrib, there's #ubuntu-classroom. heh
[02:27] <eNons3nse> I'm trying to back-up stuff to DVD-Rs and am having an annoying issue.  It seems that Ubuntu insists that the maximum capacity for DVD-rs is 4.4GB when mine are all 4.7.  Is there a way that I can change this so I can use all the space that's there?
[02:27] <sorcerer> umm can i like in go back ... before i made changes .. like in system restore?
[02:27] <mokchin> eNons3nse, i presume the easiast way to use burning facility is to use k3b
[02:27] <mokchin> !k3b
[02:27] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[02:27] <sogen> can someone help me mount cd rom :(
[02:27] <sorcerer> see i messed up the pannels and all that and they look messed up and installed a lot of unwated files but i dunno where i installed them
[02:28] <sogen> ??
[02:28] <sorcerer> could i do go back to when the OS was fresh ?
[02:28] <theTrav> ok, umm, I'm trying to install a program from source here and make is complaining about an invalid command.  My first guess is that I don't have a c++ compiler installed yet
[02:28] <jrib> sorcerer: all your personal settings are stored in your HOME directory in file or folders that start with '.'.  So you should be able to delete those to remove the settings
[02:28] <theTrav> what package am I looking for for a compiler?
[02:28] <theTrav> gc++ or something?
[02:28] <jrib> theTrav: build-essential
[02:28] <eNons3nse> mokchin: I suppose, but even then I have to trick it by enabling overburning, which it doesn't always like to do anyways.
[02:28] <mokchin> sogen, mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[02:28] <theTrav> thanks jrib
[02:29] <ROnewbi1> Hi all; for 2 weeks now I'm trying to get sound on a Gateway 3040GZ laptop with an Intel 82801DB soundcard. It appears loaded, installed, yet nothing's coming out of the little bastard. Even the slightest help would be very appreciated.
[02:29] <mokchin> eNons3nse, i don't do lots of burning so can't help there my friend but when i did, i found that to be the easiest
[02:29] <ROnewbi1> I'm running Edgy, btw
[02:29] <eNons3nse> It seems like this should be an easy fix to nautilus's integrated burning program, but it still hasn't been.
[02:29] <sorcerer> how do i see what changes happened what files should i be looking @
[02:29] <Xintruuder> u guys use ubuntu as in u never need to use Windows XP ?
[02:29] <theTrav> hmm
[02:30] <sogen> mokchin: it dont works
[02:30] <IdleOne> Xintruuder, alot of ppl never need to use windows
[02:30] <mokchin> Xintruuder, i've used windows XP and found it crappy
[02:30] <jrib> sorcerer: basically anything that starts with a '.' in your HOME is very likely to store settings about some program
[02:30] <theTrav> build-essential doesn't come up in either of the package manager gui's that the ubuntu default install provides
[02:30] <EdgEy> eNons3nse, possibly GB vs GiB issues?
[02:30] <Xintruuder> mokchin, seriosly..
[02:30] <sorcerer> should i navigate through termina l
[02:30] <mokchin> yeah
[02:30] <jrib> sorcerer: you could just create a new user and go from there if that would be easier
[02:30] <IdleOne> !repos | theTrav enable universe to be able to install build-essential
[02:30] <ubotu> theTrav enable universe to be able to install build-essential: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:30] <mokchin> !mount
[02:30] <eNons3nse> EdgEy: Hmmm.  I suppose that could be the case.
[02:30] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:31] <EdgEy> eNons3nse, 4.7gb= 4.37GiB
[02:31] <mokchin> sogen, what doesn't work
[02:31] <theTrav> oh wait, found it
[02:31] <mokchin> sogen, can you please be specific ?
[02:31] <theTrav> hmm, it was there but didn't come up when I searched for it
[02:31] <theTrav> my bad
[02:31] <theTrav> typo in search, only one s
[02:31] <eNons3nse> EdgEy: I forgot all about that.  Makes sense.  Blank media companies do like to do that now that I remember.
[02:32] <EdgEy> same with all storage devices
[02:32] <sogen> mokchin: sogen@sogen-desktop:~$ sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[02:32] <sogen> mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
[02:32] <sogen> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
[02:32] <sogen>        missing codepage or other error
[02:32] <sogen>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:32] <sogen>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:32] <carnage> i have a question can i get video lan for ubuntu 6.06
[02:32] <EdgEy> inventing their own standards :|
[02:32] <mokchin> sogen, please do not paste in here
[02:32] <ROnewbi1> !paste
[02:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:32] <eNons3nse> right.  that's pretty bogus
[02:32] <jrib> carnage: yes, install the "vlc" package after enabling the universe repository
[02:32] <jrib> !universe > carnage    (carnage, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:33] <sogen> mokchin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15361/
[02:33] <mokchin> sogen, "dmesg  |tail " and paste it
[02:33] <mokchin> !paste
[02:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:33] <carnage> thankx
[02:34] <sogen> mokchin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15364/
[02:34] <ROnewbi1> Folks, does anyone know anything about sound on laptops ? I'm tireeeeed of this s...t , for two weeks i've been playing with the alsamixer and the sound drivers on my intel 82801db soundcard, to no avail. Running Edgy, btw.
[02:34] <eNons3nse> ok, so I have a 2nd question.  I had to use ndiswrapper to get my internal broadcom wifi card to work in my laptop.  In a recent nightly software update it upgraded my kernel & I lost my wifi after I restarted.  Do I have to set-up ndiswrapper all over again every time my kernel updates, or could this be a different problem?
[02:35] <achel> join #sorong
[02:35] <Ayabara> anyone know if there is a .deb for thunderbird 2 rc1 somewhere out there?
[02:35] <ROnewbi1> !sound | ronewbie
[02:35] <ubotu> ronewbie: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:36] <pkundu> hi how do I automount my external HDD [ntfs formated]  with read/write permission in ubuntu
[02:37] <sogen> mokchin: and ?
[02:37] <[e] mdma> need help installing netbeans visual-web-pack
[02:37] <Lunar_Lamp> !realplayer
[02:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:37] <[e] mdma> !netbeans
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <mokchin> sogen, what happens without any parameters ? i.e., "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom"
[02:37] <[e] mdma> !jvm
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <theTrav>  error: X11/X.h: No such file or directory
[02:37] <mokchin> !java
[02:37] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:38] <theTrav> that's complaining about some missing source code right?
[02:38] <kadakas> please recommend me a good multitorrent client to replace uTorrent
[02:38] <pkundu> !ntfs
[02:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:38] <predaeus> !torrent > kadakas
[02:38] <sogen> mokchin: udo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[02:38] <Antalmir> Hello
[02:38] <sogen> mokchin: mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
[02:38] <sogen> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[02:38] <pkundu> !ntfs-3g
[02:38] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:38] <[e] mdma> need help installing netbeans visual-web-pack
[02:38] <velko> sogen: try udf instead of iso9660
[02:38] <mokchin> sogen, check your /media/cdrom
[02:39] <Antalmir> Nobody noes how to work Gaiptek on Ubuntu ?
[02:39] <pkundu> !fuse
[02:39] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:39] <foxiness> in aptitude i see "i A     sun-java5-jdk         1.5.0-11-1" the big A here for what ?
[02:39] <Antalmir> !gaiptek
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gaiptek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <sogen> velko: how ?
[02:39] <mokchin> sogen, are stuffs in there ?
[02:39] <Antalmir> !aiptek
[02:39] <sogen> mokchin: and whta i need to find ?
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aiptek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <ROnewbi1> Hi all; for 2 weeks now I'm trying to get sound on a Gateway 3040GZ laptop with an Intel 82801DB soundcard. Card appears loaded, installed, yet nothing's coming out of the little bastard. Even the slightest help would be very appreciated.
[02:39] <Xintruuder> can I make my ubuntu a webserver ?
[02:39] <mokchin> sogen, "nautilus /media/cdrom"
[02:39] <Hc> !fat32
[02:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:39] <IdleOne> !language | ROnewbi1
[02:39] <ubotu> ROnewbi1: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:39] <velko> sogen: mount -t udf /dev/cdrom /media /cdrom
[02:39] <orangey> Hey all!
[02:39] <PriceChild> !lamp | Xintruuder
[02:39] <mokchin> sogen, see if it has stuff in it otherwise try what velko said
[02:39] <ubotu> Xintruuder: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:39] <jrib> foxiness: http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/ch02s02s02.html
[02:40] <[e] mdma> need help installing netbeans visual-web-pack
[02:40] <aalhamad> how can i clear my xterm histroy?
[02:40] <sogen> mokchin: i see it
[02:40] <orangey> I was wondering.. Is it possible to make Ubuntu automatically execute a command depending on the ESSID it connects to?
[02:40] <ROnewbi1> IdleOne: sorry
[02:40] <mokchin> sogen, ok so the stuffs are there.
[02:40] <predaeus> please private message ubotu like /msg ubotu searchterm   when searching for info
[02:40] <mokchin> sogen, ?
[02:40] <sogen> mokchin: i have cdrom0 folder there
[02:40] <sogen> mokchin: and flopy
[02:40] <orangey> That is, if I connect to essid "test", it will do the login thing for me that is such a pain in the ass?
[02:40] <mokchin> sogen, are the cd's file in there ?
[02:40] <foxiness> jrib: thanks a lot man ,a lot of time you give me a hand thanks
[02:41] <lester_> hey. I run feisty and recently during an upgrade my nvidia driver failed. I tried reverting back to the old one, tried nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk repo for an upgrade and tried download.nvidia.com manual install, all failing with "FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia". Looks like some module script is broken, but I have no idea where/what
[02:41] <IdleOne> !ohmy | orangey
[02:41] <ubotu> orangey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:41] <sogen> mokchin: it is empty
[02:41] <Lunar_Lamp> !feisty > lester_
[02:41] <orangey> IdleOne: apologies. : )
[02:41] <mokchin> sogen, paste your "mount" output in pastebin
[02:41] <mokchin> !paste
[02:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:41] <sogen> mokchin: what is that ?
[02:42] <[e] mdma> need help installing netbeans visual-web-pack
[02:42] <mokchin> sogen, it lists your mounted filesystems in your computer.
[02:42] <mokchin> sogen, "mount"
[02:42] <IdleOne> [e] mdma, we need more info like what you are doing and where you are stuck exactly. any errors?
[02:42] <[e] mdma> IdleOne, it says no jvm installed
[02:42] <sogen> mokchin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15366/
[02:43] <[e] mdma> IdleOne, when netbeans runs smoot
[02:43] <IdleOne> [e] mdma, do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:43] <sogen> mokchin: i just want to burn cd :(
[02:43] <mokchin> mokchin, ok try "sudo mount -t udf /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom"
[02:43] <mokchin> mokchin, well is it a blank disc ?
[02:44] <[e] mdma> IdleOne, it says your jre version is the newest
[02:45] <IdleOne> [e] mdma, so it seems that netbeans doesnt know where to look for java but is using it? check netbeans forums or FAQ. maybe they have an irc channel
[02:45] <[e] mdma> IdleOne,
[02:45] <mokchin> [e] mdma, there should an option in your netbeans to point to the current jvm
[02:46] <fmaster> !courier
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about courier - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <[e] mdma> mokchin, how ?
[02:46] <fmaster> !curier
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about curier - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <IdleOne> fmaster, /msg ubotu searchword
[02:46] <fmaster> !postfix
[02:46] <mokchin> [e] mdma, it's been a long time since I've use nb but if you search for it on the options > settings something like that.
[02:46] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[02:46] <foxiness> jrib: i want to run idea "IntelliJ IDEA", and have sun-java5-jdk installed and the application output this error No JDK found to run IDEA. Please validate either IDEA_JDK or JDK_HOME points to valid JDK installation, exec: 60: /bin/java: not found, and i do not know whereis this jdk ? or did i need java6 ? "i try to change the home of jdk from /bin/java to /usr/bin/java on the idea.sh it run for one step then it give me this message "i need jdk not jre"
[02:46] <[e] mdma> mokchin, ive installed bin file and not debian ones could that be a problem ?
[02:47] <mokchin> [e] mdma, to be honest it really doesn't matter except you should know where it is installed.
[02:47] <virginiq> hooa soy vir
[02:47] <mokchin> [e] mdma, and be able to point it correctly by nb
[02:47] <sogen> mokchin: and ?
[02:47] <virginiq> no entiend su idioma
[02:47] <virginiq> me aparese en ingles
[02:47] <Pici> !es | virginiq
[02:47] <ubotu> virginiq: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:47] <IdleOne> !es | virginiq
[02:47] <[e] mdma> mokchin, tell me other thing is there anything frendlier than netbeans  for web development + intellience ?
[02:47] <IdleOne> Pici, for the win
[02:47] <virginiq> que?
[02:48] <mokchin> sogen, well don't know about web devel but give eclipse a try
[02:48] <Pici> virginiq: espanol?
[02:48] <mokchin> !info eclipse
[02:48] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[02:48] <dooglus> orangey: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/essidscript.txt
[02:48] <IdleOne> virginiq, escribes /join #ubuntu-es
[02:48] <mokchin> sogen, check for files in your /media directory
[02:48] <CheesyJedi> hey guys
[02:48] <orangey> dooglus: Wow! Thank you so much!
[02:48] <mokchin> sogen, if by web devel you mean jsf, ejbs, it's certainly extensible.
[02:48] <mokchin> sogen, so in that sense you can use eclipse to do that and much more
[02:49] <CheesyJedi> I installed another language on ubuntu, how do I type with that language (what's the equivalent to the alt+shift windows command?)
[02:49] <foxiness> where is sun-java5-jdk ? coz i need to change the path on .sh
[02:49] <dooglus> orangey: I just hacked it together.  check the content of /tmp/foo after taking your network down and up again with the script in place to see what environment variables are set.  I see 'IF_WPA_SSID' being set, but that's probably 'cos I'm using WPA encryption
[02:50] <mokchin> foxiness, sudo dpkg -L <package-name>
[02:50] <dooglus> orangey: also, note that you're not allowed any 'dot' characters in the script name, or it won't be rin.
[02:50] <orangey> dooglus: OK. I suspected as much looking at it.. Do you want me to pass you my working copy while done?
[02:50] <dooglus> won't be *run*
[02:50] <foxiness> i found anything relate to java not easy to run/install
[02:50] <dooglus> orangey: no, it's OK.
[02:50] <mokchin> foxiness, it's pretty straight forward. you get the package from the repo and let the package manager do the magic.
[02:50] <orangey> dooglus: ah. good to know. I would have gone crazy figuring out why stript.sh didn't work : )
[02:51] <mokchin> foxiness, afterwards use dpkg -L <package-name> to figure out where it is installed
[02:51] <dooglus> orangey: these scripts in *.d/ directories are usually run by the 'run-parts' command
[02:51] <benoitc> hi
[02:51] <Stig> hi, what was the channel for Beryl questions again?
[02:51] <orangey> dooglus: is it by design or by bug that they don't run . files?
[02:51] <CheesyJedi> hey, does anyone know how to change languages on ubuntu?
[02:51] <Pici> Stig: #ubuntu-effects
[02:51] <Stig> thx
[02:52] <CheesyJedi> like, what's the equivalent to alt+shift on windows?
[02:52] <dooglus> orangey: ie. If the --lsbsysinit option is  not given then the names must consist entirely  of upper  and lower case  letters, digits, underscores, and hyphens.
[02:52] <dooglus> orangey: I find it useful - I can "mv script script.dis" to temporarily disable it
[02:52] <benoitc> i have a problem today with last update on feisty beta . all the machine is slow. I think it's rrelated to mdadm. and the fact that the disk now use pata_amd
[02:52] <orangey> CheesyJedi: good question. what about System > admin > language support?
[02:52] <benoitc> anyone experilmened it ?
[02:52] <dooglus> benoitc: there's a channel for that kind of talk
[02:53] <foxiness> mokchin: the most of ide for ruby new and not well know ,then its not in repos
[02:53] <dooglus> #ubuntu+1 I think
[02:53] <orangey> dooglus: you mean keyboard only?
[02:53] <mokchin> foxiness, what do you mean ?
[02:53] <benoitc> dooglus: which is ?
[02:53] <dooglus> benoitc: #ubuntu+1 I think
[02:53] <dooglus> orangey: huh?
[02:53] <benoitc> ok thanks
[02:53] <Xintruuder> couldn't find package xchat :(
[02:53] <ilreds> guys, i need a trouble ticket system, what i can use? only trouble, not bug or other
[02:54] <Xintruuder> isnt it called xchat ?
[02:54] <dooglus> !info xchat-gnome
[02:54] <ubotu> xchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.13-0ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 296 kB, installed size 780 kB
[02:54] <CheesyJedi> orangey: that's where I installed the language, but I need to know how to change to it, cuz the language is installed but I can't type in anything other than english in, say, openoffice
[02:54] <orangey> dooglus: sorry.. meant for CheesyJedi
[02:54] <Costel> does anyone managed to make courier-imap postfix to work with squirrelmail?
[02:54] <dooglus> orangey: I see.
[02:54] <foxiness> mokchin: try to install jedit,idea,radrails,aptana,netbeans6 ....
[02:54] <dooglus> !info xchat
[02:54] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[02:54] <Costel> is givving me a hard time
[02:54] <mokchin> foxiness, try eclipse. the universal IDE. ;)
[02:54] <orangey> CheesyJedi: add an applet and see if that works. I am sure there's a way to hotkey it, but I can't think how offhand.
[02:54] <dooglus> Xintruuder: looks like xchat-gnome is the preferred client now, but xchat is still available if you enable the universe repo
[02:54] <mokchin> foxiness, can run python/perl/java/C# lots of stuff in it with the help of plugin
[02:55] <CheesyJedi> orangey: what do you mean "add an applet"?
[02:55] <mokchin> foxiness, and the good thing is that it's in the repo
[02:55] <orangey> alright. I'm off to try this thing : )  Thanks dooglus. Good luck CheesyJedi..
[02:55] <orangey> CheesyJedi: right click in grey space on a panel
[02:55] <mokchin> foxiness, so you don't have to worry ;)
[02:55] <orangey> select "add to panel"
[02:55] <foxiness> mokchin: haha i have easyeclipse and its nice and run from first time on my system realy cool work but i want to try all of this ide to see
[02:55] <xipietotec> I have a @member.fsf.org mask for my gmail account, does anyone know how to configure thunderbird to send out messages as that? It's not the same as my normal gmail account address....
[02:55] <orangey> CheesyJedi: then pick "keyboard indicator"
[02:55] <orangey> alright. I'm off.
[02:55] <mokchin> foxiness, it's called eclipse (not easy eclipse)
[02:55] <mokchin> !eclipse
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <mokchin> !info eclipse
[02:56] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[02:56] <CheesyJedi> ok
[02:56] <pieman> if i have lines like this:
[02:56] <pieman> Apr  9 21:30:20 benlinux sshd[31213] : (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=209.132.243.21  user=root
[02:56] <pieman> in my auth log...is that a bad sign?!
[02:57] <xipietotec> pieman: do you often mistype your password?
[02:57] <hammer> how do i see the nick list?
[02:57] <dooglus> pieman: not really - it means someone is trying to log in as root, and failing
[02:57] <foxiness> mokchin: http://www.easyeclipse.org/site/distributions/index.html
[02:57] <pieman> no...it's on autologin so i never type it
[02:57] <mokchin> pieman, PAM stands for pluggable authentication module. did you ever put in wrong password at the time log mentions ?
[02:57] <hammer> im trying to move with my mouse but its not happening
[02:57] <dooglus> pieman: since you probably don't even have a root password set, you've nothing to worry about
[02:57] <Pici> pieman: Someone might be trying to brute force your root password, if you have root disabled like a normal ubuntu install you dont have anything to worry about.
[02:57] <pieman> no there is like loads of entrys
[02:57] <dooglus> pieman: it's from a remote host - see the IP address.
[02:57] <CheesyJedi> orangey: nope, that's just the layout of the keyboard, not the language you're typing in on the OS
[02:57] <Pici> pieman: If its all coming from one ip you can add that to your hosts.deny file.
[02:57] <pieman> shouldn't my NAT thing stop this...?
[02:58] <dooglus> pieman: did you forward the ssh port?
[02:58] <Pici> pieman: not if you're forwarding the ssh ports to your computer
[02:58] <pieman> no
[02:58] <pieman> Pici...what do you mean?
[02:58] <SlimeyPete> or if your computer's in a DMZ
[02:58] <mokchin> foxiness, http://www.eclipse.org/ (ofcourse easy eclipse seems to be stripped down version ;))
[02:58] <Pici> pieman: I have a feeling that port 22 is forwarded to your computer, theres no other way that someone would be able to attempt a connection to it.
[02:59] <mokchin> pieman, is your IP 209.132.243.21 ?
[02:59] <pieman> nope
[02:59] <mokchin> didn't see that
[02:59] <mokchin> hehe
[02:59] <[e] mdma> mokchin, i put installer in jde dir and this shite works
[02:59] <dooglus> pieman, is you IP 87.113.26.96?
[02:59] <pieman> yeah
[02:59] <Pici> pieman: If all the logon attempts are coming from one computer, you can add an entry to /etc/hosts.deny
[02:59] <[e] mdma> mokchin, about visual web pack
[02:59] <mokchin> pieman, change your password immediately
[02:59] <dooglus> pieman: I can't connect to your ssh port.  are you running it on the standard port?
[02:59] <mokchin> pieman, someone maybe trying to crack your network using SSH
[02:59] <pieman> nope changed it
[03:00] <pieman> the port  i mean, i changed it
[03:00] <pieman> after seeing that
[03:00] <mokchin> pieman, shut down ssh daemon
[03:00] <pieman> lol
[03:00] <Pici> pieman: Are you forwarding that new port to your computer then?
[03:00] <foxiness> mokchin: this is my first step to eclipse the new ver look very kindly and bruti and i think i will install it today
[03:00] <hammer> !beryl
[03:00] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:00] <pieman> i enabled port forwarding yesterday, so i could connect via mypocket pc...but these log entries are from days ago
[03:00] <Pici> pieman: Because obviously someone knows and is trying to login
[03:00] <Daverocks> pieman: it's very normal to get tons of login attempts when you run a ssh server
[03:00] <mokchin> foxiness, goodluck
[03:00] <Daverocks> pieman: *an open ssh server
[03:00] <Arrick> is there a pastebin that runs on Ubuntu 6.06.1 that can be installed with terminal only?
[03:01] <foxiness> mokchin: thnaks
[03:01] <dooglus> pieman: it sounds like your 'NAT thing' is forwarding connection attempts to ssh then.
[03:01] <jay_> What's the best app for mounting iso's and other image formats?
[03:01] <pieman> but i onlyy enabled the port forwarding in my router yesterday, and these entrys are from days ago...so i dont understand how it happens
[03:01] <dooglus> jay_: 'mount'
[03:01] <mokchin> Daverocks, but for home machines.. really someone is up his/her ass.
[03:01] <mokchin> ;)
[03:01] <mokchin> foxiness, np
[03:01] <jay_> :) I meant like a Gui app
[03:01] <Daverocks> pieman: people run botnets that scan very large IP ranges for ssh servers and automate login attempts
[03:01] <Arrick> preferably one that allows .jpg, .jpeg, and .png
[03:01] <pieman> ok, i'll turn the service off for now lol
[03:02] <jay_> I'm getting lots of "Grep blackslash error" coz the files I'm trying to mount have too many brackets and weird characters in them
[03:02] <rage0ne> hey all, anyone tried out linuxmce on their ubuntu?
[03:02] <Daverocks> mokchin: that's against my experience. when i ran a ssh server from my home network, i got tons of login attempts. this is even on a _dynamic_ IP.
[03:02] <pieman> yeah i have dynamic ip
[03:02] <dwayne345> Quick question? Ubuntu apache2, what prevents external connections. It's Debian, Ubuntu specific.
[03:02] <ektobot> when i boot up somtimes it says "hd1 hounted more than thirty times" whats this and is it good or bad????
[03:02] <mokchin> Daverocks, surprising for a home network. umm..
[03:02] <mokchin> Daverocks, what's the cracker gonna get ? pr0n ?
[03:02] <Daverocks> mokchin: they were mostly from south korea and china
[03:02] <mokchin> he
[03:02] <mokchin> heh
[03:03] <png> Arrick, hrr
[03:03] <Daverocks> mokchin: lol
[03:03] <png> :P
[03:03] <dooglus> mokchin: internet banking passwords, credit card details, etc
[03:03] <Daverocks> root access = dangerous
[03:03] <mokchin> dooglus, who would be so stupid to store stuff in their computers ?
[03:03] <mokchin> heh
[03:03] <Arrick> mokchin, I was hit for 5 days straight with login attempts on my ssh conenction
[03:03] <Arrick> its not strange
[03:03] <Arrick> and dynamic IP
[03:03] <Antalmir|miam> Nobody noes how to work Gaiptek on Ubuntu ?
[03:03] <dooglus> mokchin: you don't need to store stuff, just logging in to your bank's website is dangerous if your box is compromised
[03:03] <Pici> This is exactly the reason why Ubuntu disables the root passwd by default.
[03:04] <mokchin> dooglus, true
[03:04] <Daverocks> for large ssh servers, the problem the admins have to deal with is clearing the logs full of failed login attempts ;)
[03:04] <pieman> can i set how many users can be logged in? ie - when i leave my computer on, and i am logged in via ssh, it means that nobody else can log in instead...?
[03:04] <Daverocks> Pici: most ssh daemons disallow root login by default anyway
[03:04] <Arrick> how do I disable the root passwd after it has been enabled?
[03:04] <dooglus> pieman: it's best if you just get your NAT sorted out.
[03:04] <Daverocks> pieman: potentially infinite
[03:04] <dwayne345> Apache2 = No external connections. help
[03:04] <dooglus> pieman: then you can leave ssh running on your home network and have the NAT block the internet
[03:04] <Daverocks> pieman: as many people can log in as your computer can handle ;)
[03:04] <pieman> lol
[03:05] <dooglus> Daverocks: re-read his question.  he's not asking how many can log in.
[03:05] <pieman> this stuff is well interesting...scary tho!
[03:05] <mokchin> there should be #ubuntu-security
[03:05] <mokchin> heh
[03:05] <mokchin> :)
[03:05] <Pici> Arrick: `sudo passwd -l root`
[03:05] <Arrick> pieman, with "single login" you are thinking of MS RDP on XP
[03:05] <Arrick> thanks Pici
[03:05] <Daverocks> dooglus: ah, he's asking if a limit can be set
[03:05] <foxiness> mokchin: did i need to folow this how-to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE or just agi eclipse ?
[03:05] <dooglus> Daverocks: yeah.
[03:06] <zenerek> hey guys just dropped in to try out this new irc app i got called bitchx
[03:06] <mokchin> foxiness, if you do "sudo apt-cache search eclipse" it should tell you
[03:06] <dooglus> Daverocks: he could set the limit to '1', then find that he can't get in when he wants to because the hacker is using the only allowed login :)
[03:06] <Daverocks> dooglus: heh
[03:06] <Arrick> Pici, that was a lowercase L right?
[03:06] <dooglus> Arrick: just "sudo passwd"
[03:06] <Pici> Arrick: Yes.
[03:06] <Arrick> ok thanks
[03:06] <mokchin> dooglus, heh
[03:07] <mokchin> dooglus, it's cracker :(
[03:07] <mokchin> dooglus, :)
[03:07] <mokchin> dooglus, whatever you prefer
[03:07] <Daverocks> ever since i firewalled ssh at my internet gateway, all the login attempts stopped. but occasionally i've been getting automated attempts from 127.0.0.1
[03:07] <|Kamen|> hi, I'm a linux newb, been running ubuntu for a few days, and was hoping I could find some help getting wine to run
[03:07] <jrib> !wine > |Kamen|    (|Kamen|, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:07] <mokchin> Daverocks, you mean spoofed ?
[03:08] <mokchin> Daverocks, that's really strange.
[03:08] <zenerek> kamen just ask your question
[03:08] <SlimeyPete> |Kamen|: what's the problem, exaclty?
[03:08] <dooglus> mokchin: it's probably a bot, really, automatically scanning hundreds of IP addresses
[03:08] <Daverocks> now it's weird because of course 127.0.0.1 is localhost, but there's no program running on my system which is trying to login to localhost with commonly tried usernames. so i think what's happening is my firewall is letting through packets with a src address of 127.0.0.1
[03:08] <|Kamen|> the thing keeps freezing up on me
[03:08] <T0uCH> hi all... i am looking for some help... I am trying to instal kubuntu and i am actually running on ubuntu and also windows xp... i had try with the kubuntu live cd.. it does work... i try to install the kubuntu desktop.. it works but its not what i saw in the live cd.... so how can i install kubuntu full ON ubuntu?
[03:08] <SlimeyPete> |Kamen|: what app are you trying to run via Wine?
[03:08] <dooglus> Daverocks: can you paste an example line from auth.log?
[03:08] <Daverocks> what i don't get is how the hacker sending the packets with a src address of 127.0.0.1 expects to get a response
[03:09] <mokchin> Dave123, the cracker is probably using some type of packet crafter
[03:09] <jrib> Daverocks: maybe he is inside your computer!?
[03:09] <mokchin> dooglus, yep
[03:09] <zenerek> do you mean it does not run the app you want it to run or it hangs your machine?
[03:09] <mokchin> heh
[03:09] <Pici> T0uCH: If you just install the kubuntu-desktop package you'll get everything you need for the KDE desktop.
[03:09] <Daverocks> jrib: hmm
[03:10] <|Kamen|> games, ubuntu has all the apps I need. I'm having the keyboard focus problem too
[03:10] <_deselby9_> hi all ...
[03:10] <T0uCH> pici but its exacly the same
[03:10] <Daverocks> dooglus: i'm using openSUSE, i don't think it has auth.log, i'm seeing the messages in /var/log/messages
[03:10] <|Kamen|> and no it doesnt lock the amchine, it starts to run but then wine, or possibly the game running within wine, freezes up during play
[03:10] <SlimeyPete> |Kamen|: Which games? Wine isn't really that good for games... a lot of them don't work well at all...
[03:10] <Pici> T0uCH: When you get to the logon screen you may need to change the Session to KDE from Gnome
[03:10] <twk> can anybody help with fglrx not directly rendering
[03:10] <Daverocks> example line: "Apr  6 03:04:24 superliminal sshd[13757] : Invalid user db2as from 127.0.0.1"
[03:11] <SlimeyPete> |Kamen|: you could try Cedega instead, but that costs money unless you bittorrent it
[03:11] <|Kamen|> well mainly I wanna get world of warcraft running, but also age of wonders, starcraft, and a few others
[03:11] <_deselby9_> anyone could clarify one thing
[03:11] <T0uCH> Pici ok i'll try and i'll come back
[03:11] <Daverocks> |Kamen|: WoW runs well under wine
[03:11] <mokchin> Daverocks, dooglus it was nice chat about security related stuff.
[03:11] <mokchin> ;)
[03:11] <Jed> im having a bit of trouble enabling the root account, i done what it says in man sudo_root but it doesnt work
[03:11] <Daverocks> ;)
[03:11] <mokchin> learned something useful everyday!
[03:11] <zenerek> ooh sorry Kamen but i have bad news, as a fellow gamer you must learn wine can only handle simple stuff
[03:11] <CheesyJedi> hey guys, what's the ubuntu equivalent of Alt+Shift on the pc? (Aka, how do I switch to a language I installed so that I can type in it?)
[03:11] <jrib> Jed: there is no need to enable it, why not use sudo?
[03:11] <Pici> !ask _deselby9_
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask _deselby9_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <Jed> i prefer to be able to log on to the root account
[03:12] <Pici> !ask | _deselby9_
[03:12] <|Kamen|> bah
[03:12] <ubotu> _deselby9_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:12] <Daverocks> |Kamen|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[03:12] <pieman> can anyone tell me what i'd type at the command line to stop the ssh service?
[03:12] <jrib> Jed: then you do 'sudo -i'
[03:12] <Daverocks> pieman: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[03:12] <_deselby9_> ubotu: :) sure
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <pieman> Daverocks, thanks
[03:12] <|Kamen|> my other problem is getting wine installed at all on my amd64 box
[03:12] <Daverocks> !thanks | _deselby9_
[03:12] <ubotu> _deselby9_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:12] <_deselby9_> ubotu: I just recently found out that when I'm using ssh connecting to my servers
[03:12] <mokchin> Daverocks, moving to the topic of Ubuntu now, how does Canonical make money off Ubuntu ? tech support ?
[03:12] <Jed> i would prefer to be able to log on to the root account with x besides i think i need it to get nessus to work
[03:13] <Daverocks> mokchin: yep, that's one way
[03:13] <zenerek> well kamen you could try cedega, but that is not free,but wow is listed as a game that it can run
[03:13] <_deselby9_> uh ... ok
[03:13] <frying_fish> Jed: why would you need to be logged in as root user to run  the program?
[03:13] <Pici> _deselby9_: Ubotu is a bot, just ask your question to the channel.
[03:13] <mokchin> Daverocks, but I have hardly seen this question here and no one seems to have an answer to it
[03:13] <twk> im running beryl and I get 3d acceleration, when I run fglrx it shows the ati hardware but when I check direct rendering it says thats a no go. My abjective is to get the hardwre reading correctly so wine thinks the d3d level is 9.0 instead of it reading at 6.0
[03:13] <frying_fish> you can always run it from a terminal (within x) as a normal user using sudo
[03:13] <Jed> i cant run the nessus server if im not root and i cant log in to the nessus server
[03:14] <xenubuntu__> does fiesty have more sata drivers built in? trying to install now and it doesnt see my WD raptor i want to put ubuntu on... ;-(
[03:14] <|Kamen|> Ive tried cedega. I'm running into problems with that too. getting my games running on linux is my last hurdle before I can ditch M$
[03:14] <_deselby9_> ok so my question is ... I recently found out that when I use ssh to connect to my servers it looks like ip is masked or goes through some proxy or something
[03:14] <frying_fish> Jed: start the server using sudo then
[03:14] <_deselby9_> is that something isps do nowdays ?
[03:14] <Jed> whats the default user for nessus though
[03:14] <frying_fish> I really wouldn't advise logging into the desktop as root, it is a very very bad plan
[03:14] <Daverocks> mokchin: not sure :P
[03:15] <mokchin> Daverocks, time to get Mark's ass here @ #ubuntu
[03:15] <mokchin> Mark where are you!
[03:15] <mokchin> heh
[03:15] <frying_fish> will have a quick look into what this nessus thing is
[03:15] <Jed> ok
[03:15] <Daverocks> _deselby9_: some ISPs force you to go through a transparent proxy, but that's usually only for HTTP
[03:15] <mokchin> Mr. Mark Shuttleworth's presence is required.
[03:15] <CheesyJedi> hey, does anyone know?
[03:15] <mokchin> :)
[03:15] <Daverocks> Jed: you should still be able to run the nessus server
[03:15] <twk> ?
[03:15] <Daverocks> lol mokchin
[03:15] <mokchin> oh he's in the Moon at the moment.
[03:15] <mokchin> heh
[03:15] <Jed> but i need to login to it
[03:15] <_deselby9_> dave .. yeah .. but this is weird
[03:15] <mokchin> helo helo helo this is Mark
[03:15] <zenerek> Kamen sorry my friend, we will just have either give up gaming or continue to live with M$,there are some linux games but they're mostly shooters
[03:15] <mokchin> heh
[03:15] <Pici> mokchin: Hes online, just set as away right now.
[03:15] <Daverocks> Jed: i don't think there is a default user, do "sudo nessus-adduser" and follow the prompts
[03:15] <_deselby9_> dave ... lets say my ip is 60.50.250.42
[03:16] <Jed> ok
[03:16] <mokchin> Pici, what's his handle ?
[03:16] <|Kamen|> actually I find I'm liking crossfire
[03:16] <frying_fish> looks like you start the nessus server with probably its init script
[03:16] <_deselby9_> when i ssh to my server and do netstat ... it looks very differents
[03:16] <_deselby9_> ytep that must be my isp
[03:16] <shrouded> Anyone else getting a 403 Forbidden when trying to access http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb
[03:16] <ubd__> i installed a program from source, ./configure - make - sudo make install, now if i remove the source directory, will the program be still available?
[03:16] <Jed> thanks
[03:16] <zenerek> hmmm, heard of crosfire,but never tried it, one of those pay to use things right?
[03:17] <Daverocks> _deselby9_: look at the IP shown in netstat, do a reverse dns on it and see if it's a proxy at yoru ISP
[03:17] <Daverocks> *your
[03:17] <dooglus> ubd__: if you 'make install', then yes.
[03:17] <_deselby9_> dave ... you can see my ip here ... thats the one I see
[03:17] <Daverocks> |Kamen|: you mean xfire, or actually the hardware configuration crossfire?
[03:17] <dooglus> ubd__: to be sure, try renaming the source directory and seeing if the app still works
[03:17] <|Kamen|> crossfire, the game. kind of a graphical mud
[03:17] <Daverocks> |Kamen|: oh heh
[03:17] <ubd__> allright dooglus ty very much
[03:18] <bjohan_> having trouble with losetup in fiesty. I used another dist (Crux) before and i have changed to ubuntu now, but when i try to set up my encrypted devices with losetup the same way as in Crux they dont get decrypted. any hints?
[03:18] <_deselby9_> dave .. how do I do reverse dns ?
[03:18] <|Kamen|> I can try that wow guide, my only problem is getting wine isntalled on my amd64 box. apt-get refuses to install it since its only out for 1386
[03:18] <Daverocks> _deselby9_: host 0.0.0.0   (replace 0.0.0.0 with the IP)  or dig -x 0.0.0.0
[03:19] <|Kamen|> synaptic doesnt like it either
[03:19] <_deselby9_> dave ... ok thanks I'll try
[03:19] <jrib> |Kamen|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[03:19] <Solarion> anyone else reporting being unable to boot into 2.6.20-14 after yesterday's updates?
[03:19] <Solarion> still no change today
[03:19] <zenerek> Kamen there is no way that wine could run wow anyway,they have not gotten up to dx9 yet
[03:20] <Solarion> zenerek: solution is to stop buying Windows-only games.  :)
[03:20] <SkippyX> XBox
[03:20] <Solarion> or XBoxes
[03:20] <Daverocks> zenerek: actually you can tell WoW to use openGL, and then it works really well
[03:20] <|Kamen|> I've tried that. even with the force architecture switch it refuses to install, saying its incompatible
[03:20] <SkippyX> Wii or PS3
[03:20] <Solarion> or PS3s
[03:20] <Solarion> Wiis, well, they're alright.  :)
[03:21] <SkippyX> "Wii would like to play."
[03:21] <Solarion> great ad.  :)
[03:21] <ubd__> can i configure win+d as show desktop?
[03:21] <Daverocks> |Kamen|: it's difficult to compile wine for amd64
[03:21] <GenTimJS> hi
[03:21] <mixandgo> anyone else getting segfault when starting gaphor ? and if so, how to fix it
[03:21] <SkippyX> Isn't it though?
[03:21] <Daverocks> |Kamen|: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97026   (if you haven't seen it already)
[03:21] <|Kamen|> I like a challenge :)
[03:21] <mokchin> Daverocks, I actually got one of my friend today to use Ubuntu.
[03:21] <anto9us> ubd__: ctrl+alt+d should show desktop
[03:22] <GenTimJS> ive got an nsuckia nf4 motherboard, and i cant seem to get the onboard NIC to work .. ive modproved forcedeth and all that (which is the module gentoo linux uses successfully on the same mobo) but the eth device doesnt showup in ifconfig -a ... thoughts?
[03:22] <zenerek> Solarion no way man,however now there are not much in pc games...mostley shooters
[03:22] <Daverocks> mokchin: mm, and? do they like it? ;)
[03:22] <mokchin> Daverocks, he was going oh is it really Free ? and I told him what I knew about GPL and Free software.
[03:22] <Solarion> zenerek: you get what you pay for.  If you pay for Windows-only games, you'll continue to get Windows-only games.
[03:22] <ubd__> anto9us: thanks that will work too
[03:22] <mokchin> Daverocks, absolutely. ;)
[03:22] <Daverocks> mokchin: heh
[03:22] <Solarion> zenerek: if you pay for Linux games, you'll get Linux games.
[03:22] <SkippyX> There's always dual-boot. Or another box.
[03:22] <Solarion> zenerek: It's not like you *must* play a game.  It's a frickin *game*.
[03:23] <Daverocks> mokchin: most people who i mention linux to, many of them have heard of it. something along the lines of "oh yeah, linux. how much does that cost again?"
[03:23] <Solarion> SkippyX: Or Wine.  But the point is that if you continue to buy Windows-only games, there's no incentive for games developers to ever support Linux.
[03:23] <mokchin> Daverocks, i wish Ubuntu was here 5-10 years ago.
[03:23] <mokchin> heh
[03:23] <SkippyX> Solarion, some folks only have a PC so they can play games. I know one guy that's a WoW addict. He's online for hours at a time.
[03:23] <GenTimJS> anyone have any insight about the NF4 network driver?
[03:23] <SkippyX> Solarion, good point.
[03:24] <GenTimJS> other than modprobe forcedeth, anything ubuntu-specific i might be missing?
[03:24] <Solarion> SkippyX: I know they exist.  I'm saying that they're sacrificing long-term benefit for short-term gain.
[03:24] <mokchin> Daverocks, I mean Debian was always there but it really never took off that much I guess. I was switching back and forth between rh,slackware and debian but I found Ubuntu to be perfect match. ;)
[03:24] <SkippyX> That they are.
[03:24] <EdgEy> if you don't pay for windows-only games, you won't get windows-only games
[03:24] <Daverocks> GenTimJS: clearly, if you used gentoo ;)
[03:24] <GenTimJS> deve, yes
[03:24] <dooglus> mokchin: what's ubuntu got that debian doesn't?
[03:24] <EdgEy> if you don't pay for a PS3 game, that doesn't mean it'll get ported for x360 for example ..
[03:24] <devaudio>  how can i change sendmail so when i send an email out from my local box, it comes from user@domain.com instead of user@hostname.domain.com ?
[03:25] <leno1_> i have
[03:25] <mokchin> dooglus, haha.. should be the other way.
[03:25] <kitche> mokchin: nah with debian you need to be a gnu extremeists :P some people hate debian due to it's views
[03:25] <leno1_> i need HELP
[03:25] <SkippyX> right - the boss is here - time for me to go to work.
[03:25] <zenerek> maybe but i am not about to forsake gaming, besides i am not the only linux guy here who cannot leave windows because they are gamers, and M$ may make the choice for us what with DX10 being only for vista,that's why started to learn linux,that and the learning
[03:25] <leno1_> i want to recompile
[03:25] <leno1_> kernel for ubuntu
[03:25] <kitche> devaudio: umm edit your sendmail.mc so it uses the domain
[03:25] <|Kamen|> trouble is too many microslaves pay for the games we like to play
[03:25] <leno1_> but with the option for Minix
[03:25] <leno1_> HELP me
[03:25] <leno1_> !!!!
[03:25] <Daverocks> !patience | leno1_
[03:25] <ubotu> leno1_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:26] <Pici> !kernel | leno1_
[03:26] <ubotu> leno1_: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:26] <mokchin> kitche, well, debian has it's own set of rules like other distro but then hey it's Ubuntu's parent distro after all. And I think in that we should appreciate both distros.
[03:26] <mokchin> kitche, that's what I think.
[03:26] <leno1_> i have see this sites
[03:26] <sorcerer> hey guys .. how do i make changes to my xorg.conf file?
[03:26] <ubd__> ubuntu sucks
[03:26] <mokchin> heh
[03:27] <ubd__> sorcerer : sudo nano
[03:27] <Daverocks> ubd__: #ubuntu isn't a good place to say that ;)
[03:27] <sorcerer> so .. its sudo nano xorg.conf?
[03:27] <|Kamen|> every OS sucks. so sayeth the trolls
[03:27] <mokchin> troller isn't allowed here.
[03:27] <Daverocks> sorcerer: yep
[03:27] <mokchin> go away
[03:28] <EdgEy> sorcerer /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:28] <EdgEy> i think
[03:28] <ubd__> yes someting like that sorcerer may be etc at beginin
[03:28] <|Kamen|> its just that windows sucks more over time, and gradually linux distros suck less
[03:28] <Daverocks> i agree, every OS sucks
[03:28] <Pici> !offtopic
[03:28] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:28] <Pici> :)
[03:28] <GenTimJS> anyone have experience with nforce4 / forcedeth ?
[03:28] <ubd__> i like bios
[03:28] <mokchin> Pici, agreed. i shut up.
[03:28] <mokchin> :)
[03:28] <mokchin> heh
[03:28] <devaudio>  sudo bash, cd /etc/X11, vi xorg.conf
[03:29] <GenTimJS> im trying to get a system up and running so we can image the drive for 10 machines going into a production environment ... if i cant get this stupid network driver to load, its time to cut a check to bill gates .. :-/
[03:29] <zenerek> sorcerer sudo gedit etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:29] <gohiei> help
[03:29] <EdgEy> sudo <editor of choice> /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. lol
[03:29] <Pici> !ask | gohiei
[03:29] <sorcerer> it opens a blank document
[03:29] <dave> i have a question
[03:29] <ubotu> gohiei: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:29] <ubd__> lol
[03:30] <gohiei> oh, i'm sorry
[03:30] <sandro_89> ciao a tutti
[03:30] <ubd__> !dont say help or i have a question, state it
[03:30] <gohiei> i just try command.
[03:30] <GenTimJS> is there an equivilent of "easy-ubuntu" to load the stupid mobo drivers for nsuckia ?
[03:30] <gohiei> i'm not ask question.
[03:30] <EdgEy> GenTimJS, forcedeth should just load
[03:30] <zenerek> sorcerer what?
[03:30] <dave> does anyone know how to get rainbowsix vegas to run in ultament
[03:30] <GenTimJS> edgey, it loads in that no errors are generated, but the eth device doesnt show up with ifconfig
[03:30] <OuZo> how do i magnify the screen? thanks
[03:31] <GenTimJS> (im on ubuntu server 6.10 if it makes a difference)
[03:31] <EdgEy> GenTimJS, not connected?
[03:31] <Daverocks> GenTimJS: looked in dmesh?
[03:31] <Daverocks> *dmesg
[03:31] <mokchin> OuZo, wear a +15 lens
[03:31] <sorcerer> when i do a sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf it opens a blank document
[03:31] <sorcerer> or file
[03:31] <GenTimJS> edgey, does ubuntu not show non-cable-plugged eth devices with ifconfig?
[03:31] <EdgEy> sorcerer X11
[03:31] <GenTimJS> dave, dmesg looks normal
[03:31] <ubd__> sorcerer: first open a editor with sudo then open the file via browsing
[03:31] <EdgEy> sorcerer x11 != X11
[03:31] <Daverocks> GenTimJS: but like, does anything happen in there when you modprobe forcedeth ?
[03:32] <dave> what
[03:32] <EdgEy> GenTimJS, it didn't for me. i doubt you're having a problem with forcedeth more likely ifconfig
[03:32] <GenTimJS> it just lists the normal one-liner that shows it loaded the module, and lsmod shows it loaded
[03:32] <ubd__> be case sensitive for god sake
[03:32] <GenTimJS> interesting edgey, ill poke with that ... brb
[03:32] <sorcerer> ok i got in
[03:32] <sorcerer> how do fidn key words in nano
[03:32] <EdgEy> sorcerer congrats after 10 mins or so you typed a line ;P
[03:33] <ubd__> whats the network monitor command?
[03:33] <Pici> sorcerer: ctrl-w
[03:33] <EdgEy> ubd you could use iftop
[03:33] <EdgEy> may have to install it..
[03:34] <ubd__> then recommend me a bandwidth monitor so ill install that
[03:34] <ubd__> iftop again?
[03:34] <tarzeau> what's the birthday of ubuntu?
[03:34] <zenerek> sorcerer hit ctrl+w then input your search
[03:34] <EdgEy> i just said iftop?
[03:34] <sorcerer> do i type this in the xorg file in nano .. to make it work for beryl Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
[03:34] <ubd__> 21th april
[03:34] <EdgEy> bandwidth monitor, you mean to record total usage over weeks or something ? not sure about that
[03:34] <tarzeau> ubd__: what year?
[03:34] <EdgEy> iftop will show current usage
[03:35] <ubd__> i need to monitor realtime badwidth usage
[03:35] <Pici> !prefix
[03:35] <ubotu> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[03:35] <GenTimJS> ok, took a look - nogo.. the gui control panel (kubuntudesktop) doesnt show it, ifconfig doesnt show it, dmesg shows the one-liner that the module is loaded, and lsmod shows it loaded
[03:35] <EdgEy> iftop will do that
[03:35] <GenTimJS> just no ethX device ...
[03:35] <ubd__> 1993
[03:35] <GenTimJS> thoughts?
[03:35] <EdgEy> GenTimJS, is the cable actually plugged in
[03:35] <EdgEy> and should be connected to some router or some such
[03:35] <sogen> can someone help me mount cd rom ?
[03:35] <GenTimJS> edgey, yep
[03:35] <EdgEy> for me.. i had problems with dhcp
[03:35] <GenTimJS> blinkey lights are blinkey
[03:35] <EdgEy> can't remember the commands i used to set static ip
[03:35] <Daverocks> the interface should still be there even if there's no cable
[03:36] <sogen> can someone help me mount cd rom ?
[03:36] <GenTimJS> well i cant set a static ip (tried) , "no such device eth1"
[03:36] <EdgEy> eth0
[03:36] <GenTimJS> (eth0 is a realtek card i put in for the install)
[03:36] <sogen> can someone help me mount cd rom ?
[03:36] <zenerek> sorcerer i don't use beryl,can't help you
[03:36] <Daverocks> sogen: it's not automatically mounted? or are you not using a desktop environment at the moment?
[03:37] <vox754> !nickspam > bipolar
[03:37] <Daverocks> GenTimJS: it's hard to troubleshoot when an interface doesn't appear. you could look through forcedeth.c if you want :P
[03:37] <vox754> !away > bipolar
[03:38] <GenTimJS> dave, ack ... lol
[03:38] <zenerek> sorcerer if you do modify xorg make a backup first or your x will be messed up
[03:38] <EdgEy> gentim try removing the realtek card ? heh
[03:38] <anto9us> GenTimJS: pull the realtek card and see what happens
[03:38] <ROnewbi1> Hi all; for 2 weeks now I'm trying to get sound on a Gateway 3040GZ laptop with an Intel 82801DB soundcard. It appears loaded, installed, yet nothing's coming out of the audio. Even the slightest help would be very appreciated.
[03:38] <GenTimJS> dave, the thing that is confusing me is that the same module loads/works under another distro on exactly the same box
[03:38] <ROnewbi1> I'm using edgy
[03:38] <Daverocks> GenTimJS: ah weird
[03:38] <EdgEy> ROnewbi1, check alsamixer
[03:38] <GenTimJS> sux lol
[03:38] <bipolar> vox754: one message is enough... thanks
[03:38] <EdgEy> (alsamixer command in terminal) make sure volumes are up
[03:39] <ROnewbi1> EdgEy: did that, all unmuted, all volumes up
[03:39] <dave> yea i know
[03:39] <vox754> bipolar, ha, there are two different factoids, so I thought I'd use both.
[03:39] <ubd__> EdgEy: i downloaded iftop how will i install?
[03:39] <EdgEy> ubd__ lol
[03:40] <EdgEy> in terminal, sudo apt-get install iftop
[03:40] <EdgEy> then its downloaded and instaled
[03:40] <EdgEy> installed
[03:40] <zenerek> ROnewbi1 your not using a swithch right, iask cause i has some sound problems a while back
[03:40] <ROnewbi1> EdgEy: I even muted the external amplifier, as the only advice i could find online suggested; nothing happened. Any ideas ?
[03:40] <dooglus> !info iftop
[03:40] <ubotu> iftop: displays bandwidth usage information on an network interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-2 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 104 kB
[03:40] <ROnewbi1> zenerek: all switches unmuted
[03:41] <ubd__> i ll compile from source EdgEy, how will i do?
[03:41] <sogen> Daverocks: no it is not auto :(
[03:41] <EdgEy> why compile from source..
[03:41] <bef>  hey guys, if I want to use the distro command in remastersys, and also include what is in home, they suggested the command "export HOME=/etc/skel" but when I do that it basically just changes the directory and nothing happens
[03:41] <bef>  I'm wondering if that's all that's supposed to happen?
[03:41] <sogen> Daverocks: and i cant mount it
[03:41] <ROnewbi1> zenerek, EdgEy: I even unmuted the external amplifier, I don't get it.
[03:41] <ubd__> CUZ i am not running UBUNTU!
[03:41] <ROnewbi1> zenerek, EdgEy: not even system sound
[03:41] <ubd__> lol
[03:41] <zenerek> i meant a the type of switch that let's u go back and forth between two computers displays
[03:41] <EdgEy> ubd__, nice to know... bye then
[03:42] <Pici> ubd__: What are you running?
[03:42] <Daverocks> sogen: mkdir /mnt/cdrom; mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[03:42] <ubd__> some linux
[03:42] <Daverocks> sogen: assuming you're root
[03:42] <ROnewbi1> zenerek: what do you mean ?
[03:42] <kadakas> how do i make Firefox2 open torrent files in an external client (KTorrent), not ask me where to download them ?
[03:42] <Daverocks> GenTimJS: finished troubleshooting? ;)
[03:42] <GenTimJS> well, fun times ... it seems to just be not working
[03:42] <foxiness> ubd__: then visit #some-linux your answer there :)
[03:43] <vox754> !away > GenTimJS
[03:43] <GenTimJS> dave, no actually im close to giving up
[03:43] <dave> why
[03:43] <dave> i mean why r u giving up
[03:43] <GenTimJS> dave, not enough time .. i have to get a disk image ready to deploy today
[03:43] <ubd__> now to get help should i have to log in ubuntu?
[03:43] <sogen> Daverocks: im root but it sey that im not :(
[03:43] <ubd__> that is not fair
[03:43] <Daverocks> hang on, dave != Daverocks :P
[03:43] <GenTimJS> ive already been at this damned ethernet driver for 2 days lol
[03:43] <DivineLight> Ny 1 knows after how much time the Ubuntu Beta will be finalised?
[03:44] <EdgEy> divine 19th i think but.. if you install now.. it's pretty much the same as the final will be
[03:44] <GenTimJS> i guess nvidia products just -really- dont play nice with ubuntu
[03:44] <dave> daverocks is your last name scott
[03:44] <sorcerer> hey how do i add third party repositorys through the command line /.
[03:44] <sogen> Daverocks: any ideas ?
[03:44] <atoponce> ubd__: well, this *is* an ubuntu support channel...
[03:44] <sorcerer> ?
[03:44] <ROnewbi1> zenerek, EdgEy: any ideas, guys ?
[03:44] <EdgEy> ROnewbi1, sorry no
[03:45] <Daverocks> dave: i shall not comment :P
[03:45] <bef> !gconf
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <foxiness> ubd__: then fair to install your-some-linux to find out how to install it ?
[03:45] <ubd__> well i run ubuntu but i dont have the apt-get you know
[03:45] <Daverocks> sogen: you mean mount says you're not root
[03:45] <dave> scootdave is that you
[03:45] <ROnewbi1> k, thanks
[03:45] <Daverocks> dave: uh, no
[03:45] <dave> scottdave is that you
[03:45] <zenerek> do you have two or more computers and are you using a hardware switch to watch and hear what is on one or another computer with that switch, ya know it's a box or so, you plugin both sets of video and audio cables from both computers and you use the box to switch which one you hear and listen to
[03:45] <Daverocks> GenTimJS: doesn't look like ubuntu is a supported distro on the nforce nvidia page
[03:45] <dave> ohh your speaking like a friend of mine
[03:46] <Daverocks> GenTimJS: weird because it really should work on ubuntu anyway
[03:46] <ROnewbi1> zenerek: was that addressed to me ?
[03:46] <GenTimJS> dave, neither is gentoo lol but nonetheless it works great ;-)
[03:46] <vox754> ubd__, no you don't need to be running Ubuntu to get help, but next time mention that first so we know you are unable to type all those commands
[03:46] <EdgEy> it just works for me
[03:46] <Daverocks> GenTimJS: lol yeah
[03:46] <EdgEy> i doubt its a problem with forcedeth
[03:46] <dave> does it
[03:46] <Daverocks> dave: coincidence i guess :P
[03:46] <zenerek> ROnewbi1 er yeah it was
[03:47] <anto9us> GenTimJS: did you pull the realtek card?
[03:47] <dave> haha im trying to install hl and it froze
[03:47] <GenTimJS> anto9us, yep, now i just get no eth devcics at all
[03:47] <DivineLight> EdgEy: So I better not download 6.10 which i am currently downloading, 23% done ???
[03:47] <xenubuntu> GenTimJS yeah, im typing on an older box running ubuntu, but ive been trying to get my better gaming pc to run ubuntu, sata, acpi=off issues.... grrr... so i feel your pain
[03:47] <GenTimJS> the driver (forcedeth) is clearly loaded according to dmesg, /var/log/messages and lsmod ... just no eth
[03:47] <xenubuntu> thats what im working on right now
[03:47] <EdgEy> Divine you can update anyway
[03:47] <ROnewbi1> zenerek: I have  no idea what you meant; I don't have 2 computers, I only have one, it's on this laptop that I'm trying to get sound. I have a dual boot, so in XP it's working, while in ubuntu it's not. And I have no  idea why, because my soundcard is loaded by ubuntu
[03:47] <Yasuo> moin
[03:47] <Jed> does nessus actually do any damage when used?
[03:48] <sogen> Daverocks: i put sudo and wited passwor
[03:48] <GenTimJS> jed, no nessus is only a probe not a sword
[03:48] <sogen> d
[03:48] <Jed> ok
[03:48] <Daverocks> Jed: if you disable the checks that can crash machines
[03:48] <sogen> password
[03:48] <dave> gotta restart ill return
[03:48] <DivineLight> Edgy: update to latest version within ubuntu?
[03:48] <anto9us> GenTimJS: does this list your module? lsmod | grep forcedeth
[03:48] <Jed> ok
[03:48] <EdgEy> DivineLight, yes
[03:48] <GenTimJS> anto9us yes
[03:48] <Daverocks> sogen: try doing "sudo -i" and entering the commands in the shell there
[03:49] <xenubuntu> GekiBlue, what mobo you have? im on a chaintech vnf4ultra and im having your same problems
[03:49] <GenTimJS> shows up in dmesg too
[03:49] <Jed> you mean the ones with the exclamation mark in the triangle next to the plugin?
[03:49] <Daverocks> Jed: i think there's an option somewhere called "safe checks"
[03:49] <ROnewbi1> zenerek: any thoughts ?
[03:49] <Jed> ok
[03:49] <Daverocks> Jed: yeah, under "scan options", make sure "safe checks" is checked
[03:49] <xenubuntu> GenTimJS, , what mobo you have? im on a chaintech vnf4ultra and im having your same problems
[03:49] <zenerek> maybe a new driver?
[03:49] <Jed> to be honest, i dont care what damage nessus does
[03:49] <DivineLight> Edgy: k, I last time updates some of the packages that update man was asking me to, but i left the krenel ones, so if i download all the updates that synaptic has to offer, will my ubuntu change to 6.10 from 6.06?
[03:50] <ROnewbi1> zenerek: Intel doesn't make them for linux, plus I'm quite sure the driver's ok
[03:50] <EdgEy> DivineLight, you need to edit your sources.list
[03:50] <EdgEy> i forgot the full path now
[03:50] <EdgEy> /etc/apt/sources.list it might be
[03:50] <GenTimJS> xenbuntu, asus MN-2MX
[03:50] <EdgEy> change all the dapper to edgy (or feisty for 7.04)
[03:50] <Pici> DivineLight: EdgEy : /etc/apt/sources.list is correct.
[03:50] <Jed> btw on the subject of sound i dont actually have any midi playback in feisty
[03:50] <DivineLight> Edgy: isn't there a repos. in Synaptic?
[03:51] <EdgEy> DivineLight, no clue, i don't use synaptic
[03:51] <GenTimJS> er, m2n-mx
[03:51] <DivineLight> u use command line apt?
[03:51] <xenubuntu> hmm, yeah, mine seems to load, but just wont connect... dhcp and static both dont work... and i see no reason for them not to
[03:52] <zenerek> ROnewbi1 did you check to see if you did not leave it unchecked in preferences?
[03:52] <SoulChild> is there a similar programm to LYX ???
[03:52] <ubd__> iftop sucks, any other bandwidth monitor so i can monitor bandwithd/pid
[03:52] <RIYANTI> help me plz
[03:52] <EdgEy> ubd__, everything sucks to you, nice trolling tbh
[03:52] <RIYANTI> how to safely remove cdrom device from ubuntu
[03:53] <SoulChild> RIYANTI: rightcli symbol on desktop and choose unmount
[03:53] <RIYANTI> cause when i remove it cant boot
[03:53] <RIYANTI> no
[03:53] <RIYANTI> not unmount like that
[03:53] <RIYANTI> i want to remove cdrom
[03:53] <renderguy> Hi all
[03:53] <sogen> Daverocks: can you give me full comand ?
[03:53] <renderguy> Anyone know the Debian (dpkg) command for removing a package of a given version, should 2 instances be installed?
[03:53] <RIYANTI> booting without cdrom
[03:53] <Nessieliberation> unmount it, then press the eject button
[03:54] <Daverocks> sogen: ok first, do you have a directory to mount it in?
[03:54] <atoponce> RIYANTI: you want to physically remove the cdrom from the computer?
[03:54] <RIYANTI> yup
[03:54] <sogen> Daverocks: i dont know :(
[03:54] <ubd__> EdgEy: i run p2p programs how do you think i can monitor anything in tons of ips?
[03:54] <EdgEy> render dpkg --remove blah
[03:54] <EdgEy> i think
[03:54] <Pici> RIYANTI: Is this a question about the LiveC?
[03:54] <Daverocks> sogen: do "sudo mkdir /mnt/cdrom"
[03:54] <atoponce> RIYANTI: then, why are you asking here? turn off you computer, grab a screwdriver, and start working
[03:54] <EdgEy> ubd__, there's a total at the bottom
[03:54] <ubd__> i need to what program eats how much
[03:54] <Daverocks> sogen: unless you're already at a root prompt
[03:54] <RIYANTI> yes
[03:55] <RIYANTI> but my pc cant booting
[03:55] <ubd__> i need to know which program took how much bandwitdhgdsf
[03:55] <Pici> RIYANTI: LiveCD rather (d key is sticky), and please prefix your responses with who you are talking to.
[03:55] <RIYANTI> stuck in hotplug
[03:55] <renderguy> EdgEy: That's fine for the package name, but I need to specify the version too.
[03:55] <sogen> Daverocks: mkdir: nie mona utworzy katalogu `/mnt/cdrom': File exists
[03:55] <Daverocks> sogen: ok, that's fine
[03:55] <sogen> that  mean cant make file
[03:55] <RIYANTI> can i pm atoponce / Pici ?
[03:55] <Nessieliberation> Pici: is there a shortcut to prefix names? or do you just type "Pici:"
[03:56] <Daverocks> sogen: yes, because it's already there, that's ok
[03:56] <Pici> Nessieliberation: Usually you can just start typing the name and press tab.
[03:56] <atoponce> RIYANTI: no. just prefix your questions with our nick
[03:56] <EdgEy> ubd why not just look at the program? lol
[03:56] <Daverocks> Nessieliberation: many IRC clients have tab-based nick completion
[03:56] <RIYANTI> oh ok
[03:56] <RIYANTI> brb
[03:56] <sogen> Daverocks: cool but it still dont works :P
[03:56] <Nessieliberation> Pici, Daverocks : clever
[03:56] <Pici> Nessieliberation: For example I wouldnt never be able to type your name out properly if I didnt use tab-completion
[03:56] <Daverocks> sogen: "sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom"
[03:57] <Nessieliberation> Pici: i also sit there typing N e s s i e l....
[03:57] <EdgEy> Nessieliberation,  type Ness then tab
[03:57] <ubd__> EdgEy: i need to know how much download firefox does, how will i see that in iftop?
[03:57] <RIYANTI> i want to booting without cdrom
[03:57] <EdgEy> ubd__, by scrolling down to the site ff is downloading from? heh
[03:57] <atoponce> RIYANTI: then eject the cd, and reboot
[03:57] <Daverocks> Nessieliberation: a lot of the clients that support tab-based nick completion allow you to automatically put a colon or a comma after the name when you tab and you're at the beginning of a line
[03:58] <ubd__> bah
[03:58] <Daverocks> ubd__: figure out which host is the one firefox is connected to
[03:58] <sogen> Daverocks: http://wklej.org/id/57d378151c
[03:58] <zenerek> RIYANTI install ubuntu then
[03:58] <RIYANTI> :(
[03:58] <Daverocks> sogen: /dev/cdrom is your cdrom device right?
[03:58] <RIYANTI> already install ubuntu
[03:59] <pieman> ok, i just tried to connect to my computer through ssh, and i can't because i've disabled port forwarding on my router...so that should prevent people getting into my computer?
[03:59] <atoponce> i guess i don't see the problem. why is it so hard to eject and reboot without the cd in the drive?
[03:59] <RIYANTI> but i want to start my pc without cdrom
[03:59] <sogen> Daverocks: i dont know
[03:59] <ubd__> i need a program to see bandwitdh usage of programs not per ip
[03:59] <PriceChild> RIYANTI, so you just want to change the boot order so it boots from hard drive before cdrom?
[03:59] <atoponce> RIYANTI: then *eject* it
[03:59] <RIYANTI> no
[03:59] <sogen> Daverocks: maybe you want shh to fix it by your self ?:P
[03:59] <RIYANTI> :(
[03:59] <atoponce> RIYANTI: why?
[03:59] <RIYANTI> brb
[03:59] <Pici> RIYANTI: I think you need to restate your question, we're all a bit confused.
[03:59] <EdgEy> RIYANTI actually install ubuntu by clicking the install button on desktop
[03:59] <Daverocks> RIYANTI: eject it right after you turn on your computer, before_anything_ boots
[03:59] <EdgEy> then eject the cd and reboot.
[03:59] <kitche> centos.org
[03:59] <atoponce> i don't have time for this
[03:59] <RIYANTI> yup
[03:59] <RIYANTI> wait
[03:59] <RIYANTI> uhm
[03:59] <Daverocks> Pici: he wants to physically get the CD out of his computer
[03:59] <RIYANTI> already install ubuntu
[04:00] <EdgEy> so fucking eject the cd?
[04:00] <EdgEy> LOL
[04:00] <RIYANTI> then i want to start my pc without cdrom
[04:00] <Pici> !ohmy | EdgEy
[04:00] <PriceChild> !ohmy | EdgEy
[04:00] <ubotu> EdgEy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:00] <Daverocks> sogen: heh, you trust me that much? :P
[04:00] <Pici> Guys/Gals, take a break if you get frustrated ;)
[04:00] <RIYANTI> cause i want to use cdrom on another pc
[04:00] <zenerek> RIYANTI you should be able to boot ubuntu
[04:00] <Daverocks> sogen: if i were me i wouldn't give an internet stranger my root password :P
[04:00] <PriceChild> RIYANTI, the cd is ejected after instillation
[04:00] <RIYANTI> my pc already installed ubuntu
[04:01] <flap> ciao a tutti :D
[04:01] <sogen> Daverocks: i have nothing to lost
[04:01] <flap> yo all ^_^
[04:01] <steventra> hi, how do you dual boot to windows from grub when you have win2k on a seperate drive?
[04:01] <flap> somebody knows how to change name to usb volume? such like no "sda" but "Mp3Reader"
[04:01] <Daverocks> RIYANTI: the CD locks the drive once it's booted, so you want to eject it right after you turn on your computer, i.e. when the drive has power, but before it's booted
[04:01] <sogen> Daverocks: then you want it ?
[04:02] <LadyNikon> flap: double click on the usb keys name?
[04:02] <Daverocks> sogen: not really, this isn't such a difficult thing to troubleshoot
[04:02] <LadyNikon> shouldnt that allow you to change the name?
[04:02] <sorcerer> hey guys .. see i wanna kinda format my ubuntu installation i have and start fresh with everything coz i made soo many mistakes how do i do that /
[04:02] <flap> LadyNikon: what? double clicking on it i will open it!
[04:02] <sorcerer> iam running a dual boot and have three partions
[04:02] <atoponce> sorcerer: reinstall...
[04:02] <LadyNikon> flap: what about right click and rename it
[04:02] <Pici> sorcerer: Run the ubuntu installer and tell it to format the drives when it paritions.
[04:02] <sorcerer> one a fat systems to shar files with my xp and ubuntu system
[04:02] <LadyNikon> flap: will it do that.
[04:02] <sogen> Daverocks: im trying to fix it from 4 hours :(
[04:02] <RIYANTI> brb
[04:02] <flap> LadyNikon: are you sure? it will be temporarely renamed i think
[04:03] <EdgEy> sogen, what's the prob?
[04:03] <sogen> Daverocks: and no one can help me :(
[04:03] <Reverend_First> Does anyone know how to transfer files from a Siemens C75 cellphone? I tried some stuff long time ago but it didn't work well cause if id move more than 1 file it becomes corrupted.
[04:03] <netdog> kbye
[04:03] <flap> LadyNikon: so, i can't rename it
[04:03] <LadyNikon> flap: well take it out.. and put it back in and see.
[04:03] <Daverocks> sogen: did you get that error before?
[04:03] <sorcerer> ok i have the live cd .. now would i have to create new partitions again ?
[04:03] <tarzeau> Reverend_First: infrared?
[04:03] <sogen> EdgEy: i cant mount my cd rom
[04:03] <Reverend_First> tarzeau: usb
[04:03] <EdgEy> sogen what cdrom is it? just a normal data cd?
[04:03] <LadyNikon> flap: it will not allow you too?
[04:03] <sogen> Daverocks: yes i alweys have it after system install
[04:03] <flap> LadyNikon: i already saw it and nothing appened, i can't rename it
[04:03] <atoponce> sorcerer: you have 3 partitions? 1 with windows, 1 with ubuntu and 1 to share files between?
[04:03] <sogen> EdgEy: cd rw
[04:03] <ROnewbi1> zenerek:  checked the preferences, it's all checked, alsamixer selected all over
[04:03] <dave> im trying to install half life and i go it to start up but i cant play any ideas
[04:03] <EdgEy> it has data on it though?
[04:03] <sogen> EdgEy: i just need it to burn one cd
[04:03] <RIYANTI> remove cdrom device but my pc cant booting
[04:04] <RIYANTI> what should i do?
[04:04] <flap> LadyNikon: no, i knows that there is a shell command-line that allow you to change name to volumes (like hard disk volume names)
[04:04] <EdgEy> you dont need to mount it to burn a cd
[04:04] <sorcerer> atoponce:  yeah the third one is a fat 32 system holding all mp3 fiules and downloaded files
[04:04] <tim> hi, ive uncommented all the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list .. so how do I install a new kernel version (2.6.18 or better) that isnt listed when I use adept?
[04:04] <LadyNikon> flap: that i dunno.
[04:04] <ghost> Hello I have jusk install 6.10 server and ran apt-get to download and install gnome, how to I configure it?
[04:04] <Daverocks> dave: half life 1 or 2?
[04:04] <EdgEy> sogen, trying to burn an image file or something?
[04:04] <atoponce> sorcerer: ok. and you just want to fix your ubuntu install?
[04:04] <LadyNikon> !rpm
[04:04] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:04] <angasule> how do I trigger soundcard autodetection? (I installed with the onboard audio enabled, I have disabled it now) all the guides I see are in case you have ISA cards or stuff like that, I'm guessing com dpkg-reconfigure is what I need
[04:04] <flap> LadyNikon: ok :) but thank you for your answers :)
[04:04] <sorcerer> atoponce: yeah .. like start brand new
[04:04] <dave> half life 1
[04:05] <flap> see ya' ^_~
[04:05] <zYe_> my speakers are cracking, but it only happens for certain nosies......... help!
[04:05] <LadyNikon> haha.. everything seems dangerous here.
[04:05] <atoponce> sorcerer: ok. should be easy enough. in the installer, you can select the partition that ubuntu resides on, reformat, and reinstall without touching the other two partitions
[04:05] <sorcerer> atoponce: mind you i just upgraded from draper to edgy .. so do i have to start with live cd and then upgrade to edgy?>
[04:05] <ghost> Hello I have jusk install 6.10 server and ran apt-get to download and install gnome, how to I configure it?
[04:05] <sorcerer> are you sure?
[04:05] <Daverocks> dave: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=8 and http://lhl.linuxgames.com/howto/half-life-HOWTO-0.5.html
[04:05] <ra21vi> hey, where I can find those options list for Intel 915 graphics chipset
[04:05] <sogen> EdgEy: yes i want brun iso
[04:05] <RIYANTI> remove cdrom device but my pc cant booting, what should i do?
[04:05] <RIYANTI> plz help
[04:05] <EdgEy> sogen ok, well
[04:05] <gentimjs> anyone? updating kernel to one that isnt on the list? or is my list somehow incomplete?
[04:06] <gentimjs> 2.6.18 ?
[04:06] <EdgEy> if it's the only burner in your system go to where the iso is
[04:06] <atoponce> sorcerer: you can start with edgy if you want. you don't have to start with dapper
[04:06] <EdgEy> and try cdrecord image.iso
[04:06] <sogen> EdgEy: but when i run programs that use cd rom my system is hangs
[04:06] <sogen> EdgEy: and cd rom is not mounted
[04:06] <EdgEy> you shouldn't have to mount it
[04:06] <sogen> EdgEy: system dont see it
[04:06] <EdgEy> you can't mount something that contains no data, mount mounts filesystems :p
[04:06] <EdgEy> you've tried cdrecord?
[04:06] <sorcerer> atoponce: how do i do that i only have the live cd which has draper can i do it thought the internet ?
[04:06] <ra21vi> sogen: there maybe DMA problem
[04:06] <ghost> Hello I have jusk install 6.10 server and ran apt-get to download and install gnome, how to I configure it?
[04:06] <EdgEy> sogen, try cdrecord and paste the output somewhere
[04:06] <sogen> ra21vi: i have 6 dma for cd rom ;] 
[04:07] <EdgEy> it's just a textmode tool
[04:07] <atoponce> sorcerer: ahh. i thought you had an edgy cd. yeah. then just install dapper, and upgrade to edgy, or download the edgy iso
[04:07] <sogen> EdgEy: how ?
[04:07] <ra21vi> sogen: is ur CDROM attached to same PATA cable to which ur hard disk is
[04:07] <Daverocks> sogen: wait, you don't want to read a CD, you want to burn one?
[04:07] <EdgEy> sogen , in the terminal, navigate to where your iso file is
[04:07] <atoponce> sorcerer: i'd probably just recommend getting the edgy iso
[04:07] <ra21vi> sogen: or different slots
[04:07] <sorcerer> atoponce: ok will be back in a few :)
[04:07] <vox754> !repeat > ghost
[04:07] <EdgEy> and try cdrecord image.iso (whatever the filename is)
[04:07] <RIYANTI> atoponce : i remove cdrom device but my pc cant booting, what should i do?
[04:08] <atoponce> RIYANTI: you have ubuntu installed on the hard drive? it should boot off that
[04:08] <Pici> ghost: If you download ubuntu-desktop, all the configuration should be done for you.
[04:08] <ra21vi> RIYANTI: is your boot in bios is first set to hard disk
[04:08] <sogen> EdgEy: lost time when i reinstaled system i had same problem
[04:08] <atoponce> RIYANTI: check your bios settings
[04:08] <sogen> EdgEy: and osmeone has gave me some comand and fixed it
[04:08] <Filo> Hello!
[04:08] <Daverocks> sogen: are you trying to read a CD, or burn to a blank CD?
[04:08] <EdgEy> sogen, try cdrecord and paste the output somewhere.. if you can't use the terminal you need to learn how!
[04:08] <EdgEy> Daverocks he's trying to burn to cdrw
[04:08] <sogen> EdgEy: but i dont renember them :(
[04:09] <Filo> Can u help me?,,,
[04:09] <EdgEy> sogen the output from cdrecord might help us
[04:09] <zenerek> RIYANTI yeah check bios
[04:09] <erUSUL> !help
[04:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:09] <Filo> ......
[04:09] <PriceChild> Filo, ask :)
[04:09] <Filo> ok
[04:09] <sogen> Daverocks: i need brun cd but i cant read / burn atm
[04:09] <sogen> Daverocks: i cant do nothing with cd :(
[04:09] <Filo> 7.0.4...is available for Power PC?
[04:09] <EdgEy> ok, dont try it.. fine..
[04:09] <ra21vi> EdgEy: hey, Desktop users need not learn terminal... Computers and OS are made to do task what u want.. not to make user learn everthing to make thing help the user..
[04:09] <Daverocks> sogen: your /dev/cdrom device is there, that's already a great sign, your CD-ROM drive is almost certainly recognised
[04:10] <sogen> Daverocks: obly live cd works good
[04:10] <EdgEy> ra21vi, the basics are always helpful
[04:10] <Daverocks> sogen: do "cdrecord -scanbus"
[04:10] <Xintruder> hi
[04:10] <Shafto> heya
[04:10] <Xintruder> I cant see the names of the users in channels for some reason
[04:10] <Daverocks> Xintruder: /names ?
[04:10] <ra21vi> EdgEy: i know, but the philosopy is to make Users just stay where they want to learn and what they want to do... not to force
[04:10] <Filo> ......
[04:10] <kermit56780> Can someone help me with ubuntu please?
[04:11] <Xintruder> lol..dude..
[04:11] <Shafto> kermit56780, Just ask the question
[04:11] <Daverocks> Xintruder: sorry, not good to do that in a channel with over 1000 users ;)
[04:11] <kermit56780> i crashed an applet and it wont restart?
[04:11] <Daverocks> kermit56780: what applet?
[04:11] <Filo> nothing to say....
[04:11] <Xintruder> can I dual boot ubuntu and Gentoo ?
[04:11] <kermit56780> its an "webilder applet"
[04:11] <EdgEy> Xintruder, of course
[04:12] <sogen> Daverocks: http://wklej.org/id/6d76755911
[04:12] <ra21vi> Xintruder: yes... just add the boot descrition in grub
[04:12] <Daverocks> sogen: sudo cdrecord -scanbus
[04:12] <Xintruder> EdgEy: so do I use the same swap partition ?
[04:12] <ra21vi> Xintruder: like, if your Gentoo grub is installed and working, you can add ubuntu boot information and thats it
[04:12] <EdgEy> Xintruder, can do
[04:13] <PriceChild> Filo, hey
[04:13] <Filo> yeah
[04:13] <Filo> PriceChild: is available?
[04:13] <RIYANTI> thx
[04:13] <Xintruder> i mustcraete another /boot partition ?
[04:13] <RIYANTI> i will try
[04:13] <PriceChild> Filo, "community port" is how it will now be described
[04:13] <sogen> Daverocks:
[04:13] <sogen> Daverocks: http://wklej.org/id/782ce51aa5
[04:13] <Filo> PriceHChild: ?
[04:13] <Daverocks> sogen: arg
[04:14] <sogen> ??
[04:14] <ra21vi> Xintruder: u can, but u can also do it with / only, and your /boot itself in /, why diferent parition
[04:14] <PriceChild> Filo, basically its not a completely supported architecture.
[04:14] <PriceChild> Filo, but it will be availiable and community supported
[04:14] <Daverocks> sogen: cdrecord works fine on all my linux boxes except my ubuntu box lol, on that one i'm getting the same problem as you :P
[04:14] <PriceChild> Filo, So it will be done, but no canonical support contracts for example
[04:14] <Filo> PriceChild: ok...because i would order Cds...
[04:14] <sogen> Daverocks: and ?
[04:15] <Daverocks> sogen: i'm looking at it
[04:15] <Filo> PriceChild: thanks
[04:16] <kermit56780> I crashed webilder by deleting the picture directories by mistake, iv tryed uninstalling/reinstalling webilder but when i try to ADD the applet to the panel it says The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_WebilderApplet".
[04:16] <Daverocks> grr, why doesn't ubuntu have lsscsi
[04:17] <Daverocks> !info lsscsi
[04:17] <ubotu> lsscsi: list all SCSI devices (or hosts) currently on system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 100 kB
[04:17] <foxiness> mokchin: did you know how to set status bar on browser to show?
[04:17] <rever> Hi what app can I use to import video from my camcorder
[04:17] <rever> It connects via firewire
[04:17] <sipior> rever: i've heard nice things about kino
[04:18] <mdobossy> Is there a linux-restricted-modules for kernel 2.6.17.7-11 that includes the 9746 nvidia module?  I keep throwing errors about not having a matched kernel module and X11 module.
[04:18] <SpAc> I just installed a fresh copy of Feisty... icons for my other HDD's don't show up on the desktop anymore... is that by design?
[04:18] <Xintruder> whatdo I apt-get to make my ubuntu a file server ?
[04:18] <Xintruder> that uses ftp
[04:18] <rever> kino is that kde only any gnome apps
[04:18] <Daverocks> Xintruder: vsftpd or proftpd
[04:19] <SlimeyPete> kino's not kde-only AFAIK
[04:19] <sipior> rever: despite the "k", i think it is a gnome app :-)
[04:19] <dave> i cant get hl to work still
[04:19] <kermit56780> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_WebilderApplet".
[04:19] <Xintruder> why cant I su? I get authentication faliur
[04:20] <sipior> Xintruder: no root login by default
[04:20] <atoponce> !sudo | Xintruder
[04:20] <ubotu> Xintruder: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:20] <sipior> Xintruder: sudo su should work
[04:20] <Terrasque> sudo -i works better
[04:20] <sipior> if you absolutely need a shell
[04:20] <Pici> sipior: Xintruder : the reccomended way is to use `sudo -i`
[04:20] <sipior> whatever
[04:20] <zany> hello , i have a problem using Gparted
[04:21] <Xintruder> root@Intelo:/home/intelo# apt-get vsftpd
[04:21] <Xintruder> E: Invalid operation vsftpd
[04:21] <Daverocks> Xintruder: apt-get install vsftpd
[04:21] <rever> Ok going to install and try. One great thing about FOSS is you can install and try many different apps
[04:21] <sipior> Xintruder: forgot the "install" bit :)
[04:21] <atoponce> Xintruder: apt-get intstall vsftpd
[04:21] <Xintruder> cI always do install?
[04:21] <sogen> Daverocks: and you found it ?
[04:21] <Daverocks> Xintruder: when you want to install new software, yes
[04:21] <Xintruder> I always did just emerge in the past:P
[04:21] <sipior> rever: yes, that's true. shop around!
[04:21] <SpAc> Where can I go to enable drives displayed as icons on the desktop?
[04:21] <kermit56780> How do i delete the OAFIID:GNOME_WebilderApplet from my panel configuration?
[04:21] <Daverocks> Xintruder: hehe good old gentoo
[04:21] <Terrasque> Xintruder: apt-get install/remove/update/upgrade/dist-upgrade :)
[04:21] <Daverocks> sogen: well the problem is i can't find any scsi devices on my ubuntu box when i know there are
[04:21] <sipior> SpAc: ever used the configuration editor?
[04:22] <Daverocks> sogen: and i've burnt CDs on it before
[04:22] <krille> After update to feisty, should i remove every repository that says edgy??
[04:22] <SpAc> sipior: so it's not by default anymore?
[04:22] <Xintruder> ok its instaled,but I cant see it in any of the menus
[04:22] <sipior> SpAc: i thought it was, but obviously not in your case
[04:23] <SpAc> sipior: it is a brand new install... perhaps I should do the updates?
[04:23] <sipior> SpAc: perhaps your .gconf got trashed or so?
[04:23] <foxiness> is there away on eclipse browser to set status bar to view?
[04:23] <SpAc> sipior: my USB drive shows up when I plug it in
[04:23] <sipior> SpAc: i wouldn't. i ran into a nasty kernel bug after updating the kernel this morning...
[04:23] <sipior> SpAc: nasty as in "won't boot"
[04:24] <ra21vi> do anyone know where I can find those Options for the Intel 915 Graphics which are used in xorg.conf
[04:24] <ra21vi> googling doesnt help
[04:24] <SpAc> sipior: nasty!
[04:24] <Xintruder> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[04:24] <Xintruder>  << huh ? :(
[04:24] <MarcN> sipior: I tried updating a few minutes ago and I'm getting forbidden 403 for the new kernel deb
[04:24] <sipior> SpAc: if yuor usb drive plugs in, it might be that only removables are set to be displayed
[04:24] <Daverocks> Xintruder: you already have something listening on that port
[04:24] <sipior> MarcN: good! :)
[04:24] <MarcN> sipior: maybe someone noticed something.  I'm using us.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:25] <SpAc> sipior: sounds like that. I was just used to Edgy where my other drive mounts were also displayed
[04:25] <MarcN> sipior: just tried again and still forbidden
[04:25] <Xintruder> Daverocks: ok, what ever it is my point of running ubuntu am is to get fp p. so what do i do ?
[04:25] <kermit56780> how do i remove an applet from my panels configuration?
[04:25] <sipior> MarcN: i tried submitting a bug report this morning, but launchpad.net was giving internal server errors
[04:25] <MarcN> sipior: too busy ;-)
[04:25] <sipior> yup :)
[04:25] <Pici> kermit56780: right click the applet and select remove?
[04:25] <Daverocks> Xintruder: assuming you're at a root prompt, "netstat -ptan | grep :21"
[04:25] <SpAc> sipior: so just run gconf-editor?
[04:26] <sipior> SpAc: sounds like the right way to go. something might have unset a flag or two
[04:26] <Xintruder> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:21              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     2
[04:26] <SpAc> sipior: yeah... although by 'fresh install', I mean this is the very first login without changing anything!
[04:26] <SpAc> sipior: this is as fresh as it gets!
[04:26] <sipior> SpAc: hmm...then i am at a loss
[04:26] <Daverocks> Xintruder: what's after the 2? :P
[04:27] <Xintruder> 7715/vsftpd
[04:27] <krille> After update to feisty, should i remove every repository that says edgy??
[04:27] <SpAc> sipior: ok... final question then... any pointers where to look in gconf?
[04:27] <sipior> SpAc: just a sec, i'll get you the path
[04:27] <Daverocks> sogen:  AH, on ubuntu my cdrom driveis /dev/hdc
[04:27] <Pici> krille: They should all say feisty now, or you should change them to feisty
[04:28] <SpAc> sipior: cause it would be nice to have it display the other mounts in the "places" tab in the file browser...
[04:28] <sipior> SpAc: apps->nautilus->desktop should be the one
[04:28] <krille> Pici: Ok, i have both now. So i should remove those who says edgy?
[04:28] <Daverocks> sogen: hm, i used xfburn to do my burning
[04:28] <unimatrix9> whats the news on feisty?
[04:28] <Pici> krille: Yes.
[04:28] <sogen> Daverocks: but how i can mount cd rom ?? :(
[04:28] <Pici> unimatrix9: 4/19 is expected release date.
[04:28] <sipior> SpAc: odd that it doesn't do that already. might be a bug there...
[04:28] <krille> ok, i've run updates now via update manager, is that bad?
[04:28] <kermit56780> I crashed webilder by deleting the picture directories by mistake, iv tryed uninstalling/reinstalling webilder but when i try to ADD the applet to the panel it says The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_WebilderApplet".
[04:28] <unimatrix9> is it sure , the date i mean?
[04:29] <Daverocks> sogen: do you want to read a cdrom, or burn to it?
[04:29] <SpAc> sipior: woo... not sure if i'm supposed to be proud of that or not!? :P
[04:29] <unimatrix9> for feisty, is it an all go?
[04:29] <krille> with both from edgy and feisty in repository.
[04:29] <sogen> Daverocks: burn
[04:29] <Daverocks> sogen: when you burn a cdrom, you don't mount it
[04:29] <HorizonXP> anyone know why the Water effect Beryl plugin doesn't work for me?
[04:30] <mzanfardino> Why is it that when I try to play back a DVD I've burnt my DVD player returns an error reading: cannot play disc.  not in region?  I know that DVD's have region codes, but this is a DVD of my own making.
[04:30] <Xintruder> so what do i do ? :(
[04:30] <osfameron> HorizonXP: water effect on xgl never worked for me when I tried that - could just be capacities of graphics card ?
[04:30] <sipior> mzanfardino: i think some drives require a region code to be set before playing any disc
[04:30] <sogen> Daverocks: but first at all i want open some cd to check is it works :(
[04:30] <HorizonXP> osfameron: I using the NVidia driver, so I'm not going through XGL
[04:30] <Daverocks> Xintruder: sorry, didn't see your earlier message, basically vsftpd is already running
[04:30] <sipior> mzanfardino: but i wouldn't swear to it
[04:30] <HorizonXP> osfameron: but it's a GeForce4 4200, so u may be right
[04:30] <Daverocks> sogen: so you're trying to read from a CD now?
[04:30] <Titch> Hello, ive changed my BIOS to boot to CD but XP still loads up?
[04:31] <sogen> Daverocks: yes
[04:31] <sipior> Titch: CD not in drive?
[04:31] <sogen> Daverocks: i put turok 2 game cd in cd rom
[04:31] <aliasxerog> anyone know of how to fix wifi on ubuntu
[04:31] <mzanfardino> sipior: how do I set the region code?  I'm using Avidemux to create the mpg's, KmediaFactory to create the compliation, and k3b to burn...
[04:31] <sogen> Daverocks: and nothing hapend
[04:31] <Daverocks> sogen: ok, try "sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom"
[04:31] <sipior> Titch: also, is the D the first entry in the boot order?
[04:31] <Titch> sipior: yes, do all i need to dois burn the ISO on the CD
[04:31] <Xintruder> Daverocks: where do i putthe filesthen ?
[04:31] <unimatrix9> Titch , maybe you have two cdrom drives and picked the wrong one
[04:31] <niall> Has anyone had success running Compiz or Beryl on an nvidia card with TV-out enabled?  Beryl broke my TV-out last time i tried it.  :(
[04:32] <sipior> mzanfardino: hmm..good question. try searching synaptic for "region" and see what turns up
[04:32] <osfameron> HorizonXP: oh :-) well, that's pretty much the extent of my knowledge on new 3d interfaces, just thought I'd share as it was the same effect that didn't work for me
[04:32] <Titch> unimatrix9; ill go and check again, thanks
[04:32] <sogen> Daverocks: mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[04:32] <mwe> niall: You may get better advice on such issues in #ubuntu-effects
[04:32] <sogen> Daverocks: mybe you can use ssh ?
[04:33] <mzanfardino> sipior: searching...
[04:33] <Xintruder> Daverocks: where do I put the files mate ?
[04:33] <Daverocks> Xintruder: looking, i never installed vsftpd on ubuntu so i don't know what its default directory is
[04:33] <SpAc> sipior: thanks, but it was already enabled
[04:34] <sipior> SpAc: then i am officially perplexed. the disks are mounted, right?
[04:34] <Daverocks> sogen: i'm reluctant'
[04:35] <Daverocks> Xintruder: does /home/ftp exist?
[04:35] <SpAc> sipior: lets see.... yep... can access them fine through /media/sdb1
[04:35] <Xintruder> yeah!><
[04:36] <Daverocks> Xintruder: ok, it might be that
[04:36] <Xintruder> I looked into my home, and not /home earlier
[04:36] <knewt> just wondering what the hold-up is with the Feisty RC? it was supposed to have happened yesterday
[04:36] <sogen> Daverocks: what you are ?
[04:37] <sogen> Daverocks: ufo ?
[04:37] <Daverocks> sogen: lol
[04:37] <sogen> Daverocks: i dont know what it means xD
[04:37] <SpAc> sipior: I have 343MB of updates to churn through!
[04:37] <sandro_89> hey hallo everyone
[04:38] <Daverocks> sogen: ah, it means, i don't particularly want to use ssh :P
[04:38] <SlimeyPete> sandro_89: hi
[04:38] <sipior> SpAc: well, maybe those'll sort you out. just remember not to delete the pervious kernel...
[04:38] <Titch> i tryed changing to some other things but it did not work, i downloaded 6.10 and burned the ISO to a CD-R
[04:38] <Kopfgeldjaeger> A question: did the latest network-manager(-gnome)-update solve this problem that existed?
[04:38] <sogen> Daverocks: it iwll be an advemnture for you :D
[04:38] <SpAc> sipior: thanks for that! I'll definitely remember that one!
[04:38] <sogen> Daverocks: you will see another world of my pc :D
[04:39] <unimatrix9> Titch, and xp boots from your drive?
[04:39] <sandro_89> i am italian and my english is not so well so i hope thet you understand me
[04:39] <Daverocks> sogen: haha, i've had plenty of experience with ssh, just i don't like ssh'ing into random people's boxes ;)
[04:39] <unimatrix9> cdrom drive that is
[04:39] <sipior> Titch: how exactly did you burn the image? maybe as a data disc and not an image proper?
[04:39] <Titch> after it searched for CD-ROM twice the XP boot screen comes up
[04:39] <Pici> sandro_89: We have an #ubuntu-it channel if thats more comfortable for you
[04:39] <detectiveinspekt> what is a good gui lib commonly used for linux?
[04:39] <RMiracleM1> Good morning.
[04:39] <sandro_89> oh thanks
[04:39] <sipior> detectiveinspekt: gtk?
[04:39] <Kopfgeldjaeger> gtk(+)?
[04:39] <xim> detectiveinspekt, gtk and qt
[04:39] <sandro_89> bye
[04:39] <detectiveinspekt> I have used fltk and its pretty gdd
[04:39] <Xintruder> Daverocks: ok, ftp server is up.but i cant upload from clients because they dont have pemission :/
[04:39] <Daverocks> detectiveinspekt: GTK+ ... Qt is also popular
[04:39] <xim> gtk is nicer ; )
[04:40] <sogen> Daverocks: im not ramdom ... you are my best friend :D
[04:40] <Kopfgeldjaeger> GTk for Ubuntu (gnome) and QT for Kubuntu (KDE)
[04:40] <Daverocks> Xintruder: yep, those are the default settings for vsftpd
[04:40] <Titch> i went into windows explorer and just dragged and dropped it into E:/ which then it burned onto the CD
[04:40] <RMiracleM1> Did anyone else get a 403 error trying to install today's update for the kernel?
[04:40] <Kopfgeldjaeger> sudo apt-get update
[04:40] <Kopfgeldjaeger> the update was removed
[04:40] <detectiveinspekt> ah yer like the look of gnome so gtk it is
[04:40] <detectiveinspekt> thanks
[04:40] <Kopfgeldjaeger> AFAIK
[04:40] <Daverocks> Xintruder: look in /etc/vsftpd.conf , there should be some fairly self-explanatory config options in there
[04:40] <Daverocks> sogen:lol..
[04:41] <sipior> Titch: iso images have to be copied bit for bit, as it were. i bet windows made a data disc out of it. you'll want to find "burn image" or a similar option under windows
[04:41] <sogen> Daverocks: then can you help your best friend ?
[04:41] <Daverocks> sogen: not through ssh ;)
[04:41] <Daverocks> look, i need to go to bed anyway
[04:41] <sogen> :(
[04:41] <Titch> sipior> ill check now
[04:41] <fiery_cleric> sogen: what do want to do?
[04:41] <sipior> Titch: unfortunately i don't often burn CDs under windows, so i have no better advice for you
[04:41] <Kopfgeldjaeger> Will there be a Feisty RC? Or will the next be the final version? (I know I'd download Daily-Builds)
[04:41] <fiery_cleric> sogen: u want to do?
[04:42] <sogen> fiery_cleric: wanna be my best friend ? help me fix my cd rom :)
[04:42] <Xintruder> is to allow all everything #/home/ftp +xrd ? close to thati bet -_-
[04:42] <Panzer_> what burning program under windows?
[04:42] <publico> hola
[04:42] <publico> com estan
[04:42] <Titch> sipior> ill download alchol 120% that does data things?
[04:42] <fiery_cleric> sogen: ok u want some one to ssh in?
[04:42] <publico> estoy en colombiA
[04:42] <Panzer_> Titch:
[04:42] <sipior> Titch: no idea, i'm afraid
[04:42] <xim> will it be possible to upgrade directly from dapper to feisty?
[04:42] <fiery_cleric> sogen: whats the error
[04:42] <Kopfgeldjaeger> xim: no
[04:42] <Panzer_> Titch: A120 will burn iso's
[04:42] <Daverocks> Xintruder: well, the ftp daemon has to have permissions to write to /home/ftp , _and_ you need to enable anonymous upload in the config file
[04:42] <sipior> Panzer_: i think it was just the windows default
[04:42] <Kopfgeldjaeger> xim: Maybe LTS-->LTS,  but Feisty is not LTS
[04:42] <RMiracleM1> did an apt-get update and the update manager still shows the kernel as needed upgraded.
[04:42] <sogen> fiery_cleric: i cant read/burn cd
[04:42] <Titch> Panzer_> thanks
[04:42] <mark007> Could anyone point me to where I can download a nightly build of xubuntu?
[04:42] <publico> I DO NOT SPEAK ENGLIS.DO YO SPEAK SPANISH?
[04:42] <xim> Kopfgeldjaeger, ok thanks
[04:43] <Panzer_> windows default burn program is horrible
[04:43] <sogen> fiery_cleric: system dont see my cd rom :(
[04:43] <sipior> RMiracleM1: yep, boot problems with the new kernel
[04:43] <Panzer_> Titch: if you like to burn stuff alot then get Nero 6
[04:43] <Kopfgeldjaeger> this ATA-thing??
[04:43] <sipior> RMiracleM1: you don't want it, since then your machine won't boot :)
[04:43] <Panzer_> and there is nero linux version
[04:43] <sipior> yup
[04:43] <fiery_cleric> sogen: ok have u had a look thru dmesg output?
[04:43] <RMiracleM1> so ignore the update manager.
[04:43] <chemaja> Panzer_, k3b?
[04:43] <RMiracleM1> thanks!
[04:43] <Panzer_> that will work on linux yea.  for my iso stuff I have been using cdrecord and growisofs
[04:44] <sogen> fiery_cleric: yes ... and  live cd works good
[04:44] <Daverocks> Xintruder: options like write_enable=YES , anonymous_enable=YES , anon_upload_enable=YES
[04:44] <sogen> fiery_cleric: i have only problem on ubuntu
[04:44] <Panzer_> but I only do burning on the linux box at command line
[04:44] <fiery_cleric> sogen: what is the drive ide? usb?
[04:45] <publico> HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[04:45] <publico> BUSCOP AMIGOS
[04:45] <sogen> fiery_cleric: i dont know some funny wide clable
[04:45] <_Neil> Hi publico
[04:45] <Daverocks> !es | publico
[04:45] <ubotu> publico: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:45] <sipior> publico's been smoking the wacky tabacky
[04:45] <_Neil> lol
[04:45] <sogen> fiery_cleric: inside on comuter
[04:46] <sogen> fiery_cleric: same like for hard drive
[04:46] <mark007> Could anyone point me to where I can download a nightly build of xubuntu?
[04:46] <_xavier> Hi. I am trying to move my software raid from the old IDE driver to the new libata based driver (using linux 2.6.20), but I get a kernel pannic (can't mount /dev/md1)
[04:47] <Gambaroni> when I'm going to install using netboot.. it says no disc driver.. Could it be because it tries to use the lan card as disc?
[04:47] <jonah> is there a way to remove wine, all it's files and entries in package database etc and totally get rid of every reference to it somehow, my machine is a bit of a mess as wine installs ok from deb but when i run winecfg i get this error: "exec: 29: /usr/bin/wine: not found"   and then when i open synaptic it's not there, but if try to install a different version etc it says it's replacing a previous version as if it is installed. and all the files etc are in us
[04:47] <jonah> r/bin
[04:47] <xor11u> Hi, how can I change locales from en_GB to lv_LV ?
[04:47] <Daverocks> sogen: likely scsi unless the machine is quite old
[04:48] <publico> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL?
[04:48] <sogen> Daverocks: go sleep lol
[04:48] <Daverocks> sogen: yeah i should, it's 12:48 am here lol
[04:48] <publico> #INCLUDE.MATH
[04:48] <Daverocks> cya everyone
[04:48] <sogen> am ?
[04:48] <PriceChild> !es | publico
[04:48] <ubotu> publico: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:48] <Daverocks> PriceChild: already did ;)
[04:48] <publico> YES I*_**
[04:49] <sipior> actually, i think he was speaking C there...
[04:49] <PriceChild> Daverocks, ok thanks :)
[04:49] <PriceChild> publico, /join #ubuntu-es
[04:49] <Xintruuder> Daverocks, do I restart the ftp server once I changes settings?
[04:49] <ubd> how do i change screen refresh rate via console?
[04:49] <Xintruuder> if so, how
[04:49] <Daverocks> Xintruder: yes
[04:49] <fiery_cleric> jonah: maybe dpkg -P wine ?
[04:49] <Daverocks> Xintruder: /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[04:49] <Xintruuder> thx
[04:49] <_Malloy_> aye lads, can someone give me a hand with streaming plugin in firefox ?
[04:49] <Daverocks> ok cya lol
[04:50] <kermit56780> I crashed webilder by deleting the picture directories by mistake, iv tryed uninstalling/reinstalling webilder but when i try to ADD the applet to the panel it says The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_WebilderApplet".
[04:50] <_Malloy_> Got firefox and mozilla-mplayer plugin installed, doesn't seem to work....
[04:50] <fiery_cleric> jonah: then delete your ~/.wine
[04:50] <_Malloy_> under about:config put two strings about mms and the path to mplayer
[04:50] <Xintruuder> darn it,still cant write, no permission..
[04:50] <_Malloy_> nothing also...
[04:50] <claude> hi everybody
[04:50] <sipior> _Malloy_: is totem-mozilla installed?
[04:51] <_Malloy_> sipior, nope
[04:51] <sipior> _Malloy_: try that and see if it doesn't improve things
[04:51] <jonah> ok the dpkg -P wine worked to remove it, then i installed it again. then when i run winecfg i still get the error: exec: 29: /usr/bin/wine: not found   - it's driving me bonkers and no one in wine room will help, they say it's a prob with package manager or ubuntu
[04:52] <_Malloy_> sipior, in the strings i put in about:config i change to the path for totem ?
[04:52] <fiery_cleric> jonah: what does ls -l /usr/bin/wine give u
[04:52] <sipior> jonah: is /usr/bin/wine the correct path? maybe an old configure file needs sorting
[04:52] <jonah> also can anyone advise how it may be possible to run mac os x on virtual machine with ubuntu, is vmware player or xen or another best?
[04:52] <sipior> _Malloy_: no, just install the totem-mozilla package
[04:53] <_Malloy_> sipior, ok, gonna try now
[04:53] <sipior> i wasn't aware one could run Mac OSX in the vmware player, actually
[04:53] <jonah> fiery_cleric, now it's uninstalled it says no such file or dir
[04:53] <oxygen> hi
[04:53] <jonah> sipior, i think it prob is some config file or something but don't know how or where to fix it
[04:53] <oxygen> how are you
[04:53] <Xintruder> Where is the configuration of the vsftpd server located ?
[04:54] <sipior> jonah: do you have a .wine directory or something like it?
[04:54] <sipior> oxygen: i'm pretty crappy, oxygen, but thanks for asking man
[04:54] <jonah> sipior, yeah but i deleted it to try install fresh again, but still no joy, it's really weird
[04:54] <RCP> Does anyone know why I cannot download the latest linux image for feisty amd64? Dated yesterday?
[04:54] <sipior> RCP: problems with the kernel booting, they're still sorting  it out
[04:54] <Shafto> jonah, Do sudo apt-get --purge remove wine
[04:55] <RCP> Thanks.
[04:55] <Shafto> jonah, Then sudo apt-get install wine again
[04:55] <sipior> jonah: the winecfg thing is just a script, so maybe try editing it manually?
[04:56] <gdiebel> why does java6 in edgy suck so badly. about 25% of the applets I go to on java.com crash my browser. plus hitting cancel in cert warning tries to launch the applet anyway or something and hangs browser.
[04:56] <jonah> sipior, where can i edit it?
[04:57] <fiery_cleric> winecfg is gui progam isnt it
[04:57] <jonah> Shafto, did this and then when try do winecfg i still get: exec: 29: /usr/bin/wine: not found
[04:57] <sipior> jonah: try "gedit $(which winecfg)" and see if that does anything
[04:57] <jonah> yeah a gui normally comes up
[04:57] <Shafto> jonah, try #winehq
[04:57] <fiery_cleric> jonah:  install the package again  first
[04:58] <jonah> Shafto, tried in there but they said they can't help and say they don't know about different distros so i need to ask in my own distro irc
[04:58] <fiery_cleric> jonah: what does dpkg --status wine give u
[04:58] <roland_> when will feisty final release be out
[04:58] <_Malloy_> sipior, no good...keeps with a black screen and (no video) warning
[04:58] <Shafto> roland_, 17th i think
[04:59] <jonah> sipior, ok gedit has it open but i don't know what to edit cos the paths look right to me....
[04:59] <zeasier> just installed another video card, how can i have xorg.conf automatically configured again?
[04:59] <sipior> _Malloy_: might conflit with the mplayer plugin. try removing it and restarting the browser
[04:59] <roland_> should i download ubuntu fesity beta or stick with 6.10 ?
[04:59] <_Neil> hi all
[04:59] <sipior> jonah: you'll need to ensure that wine is installed, then change the path of the file it's looking for
[04:59] <HairyDude> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb gives a 403 Forbidden
[05:00] <sogen> can someone sey me ho wi can instal windows form ubuntu (i cant burn cd)
[05:00] <_Neil> for some reason, thunderbird has starting using the system beep when i have mail
[05:00] <_Neil> not audio
[05:00] <_Neil> whys this?
[05:00] <mwe> roland_: feisty, I'd say, since it's going to be released real soon anyway
[05:00] <fiery_cleric> jonah: thing is , most likely winecfg will depend on the wine package ... so something is stuffed if u dont have wine installed
[05:00] <EdgEy> sogen you cant
[05:00] <sipior> HairyDude: problem with kernel, give it some time
[05:00] <HairyDude> right
[05:00] <albert> hi, what's the command for showing all jobs and their ids in console?
[05:00] <zeasier> roland_: a co-worker and myself recently installed it, didn't have any issues
[05:00] <EdgEy> ps ax
[05:00] <tarzeau> albert: ps -ef ?
[05:00] <HairyDude> should be in the other channel anyway, this is feisty, sorry
[05:00] <albert> konsole
[05:00] <mwe> roland_: April 19th I think
[05:00] <roland_> mwe: so if i download it now and update it each day i will have a identical ubuntu system with the one wich will be final release?
[05:00] <jonah> sipior, it is installed, but not showing up in package manager! i've installed from a deb file which went ok, but then it's not in synaptic when i search, though all the files are in usr/bin where they should be....
[05:00] <VrIgHtEr> need help for getting integrated intel graphics chipset to work
[05:00] <roadfish> is there a multimedia meta-package?
[05:00] <albert> tarzeau, ye, ty
[05:01] <Shafto> jonah, Did younot use the provided repos?
[05:01] <mwe> roland_: yeah
[05:01] <sogen> EdgEy: :((( then ho wi can brun cd ?
[05:01] <EdgEy> roland_ yes. i installed feisty a month or so ago and had no probs so, now it should be fine :)
[05:01] <sipior> hey, can anyone add a notice to the channel topic? something like "New kernel broken, do not install, even if you can find it somewhere"
[05:01] <ubd> what to do with this error  http://rafb.net/p/yqU7YH57.html
[05:01] <fiery_cleric> jonah: infact winecfg is part of the wine package
[05:01] <EdgEy> sogen, have you even tried cdrecord, a few people have told you to try it now
[05:01] <USSJoin> sipior: Oh, is *that* why I suddently get 403 erros on dloading the kernel?
[05:01] <roland_> EdgEy: i ran it fine some weeks ago, all hardware was working, so i think i wont have problems now
[05:01] <addams> you guys getting this: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb
[05:01] <addams>   403 Forbidden [IP: 91.189.88.31 80] 
[05:01] <sipior> USSJoin: yep
[05:01] <sogen> EdgEy: sudo cdrecord ?
[05:01] <sipior> Ops?
[05:01] <EdgEy> sogen, go to where your image file is that you want to burn
[05:01] <USSJoin> sipior: Ah, OK. Cool; thanks!
[05:02] <Shafto> addams, Appearently theres a boot problem
[05:02] <EdgEy> and "cdrecord file.iso"
[05:02] <addams> Shafto: with me, or with that server?
[05:02] <Shafto> addams, With 2.6.20
[05:02] <roland_> does fesity eat almost as much ram as vista?
[05:02] <EdgEy> lol
[05:02] <addams> oh
[05:02] <jonah> Shafto, i'm amd64 so have to do it this way: http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64
[05:02] <PriceChild> adaptr, feisty in #ubuntu+1 and it will be fixed asap
[05:02] <PriceChild> whoops
[05:02] <EdgEy> does anything eat as much ram as vista?
[05:02] <jonah> it's always worked before for me, but not working now
[05:02] <PriceChild> addams,  feisty in #ubuntu+1 and it will be fixed asap
[05:03] <Shafto> roland_, Doubt it by far!
[05:03] <jonah> and i've tried older version of wine too and still same
[05:03] <EdgEy> feisty should have around the same amount of ram usage as edgy
[05:03] <Wanderer> !source-o-matic
[05:03] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:03] <VrIgHtEr> can anyone help me fix a problem with my gfx chipset?
[05:03] <addams> oh man, I love feisty so much, i can't wait until they are finally done
[05:03] <kitche> roland_: there's not much of a difference between memory usages between linuxes
[05:03] <Shafto> VrIgHtEr, gfx as in graphics? If yeah then ask the question
[05:03] <jalway> Hi. I am having wireless usb adapter issues.
[05:03] <roland_> can i use kernel virtual machine to run anotehr linux if i have a plain p4 1.8ghz and 512 ram in fesity?
[05:04] <fiery_cleric> !qemu
[05:04] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[05:04] <sipior> roland_: a little tigt on ram, but it should work
[05:04] <roland_> k
[05:04] <roland_> i wont install X
[05:04] <roland_> in gues
[05:04] <mawe> hi all, is there a dedicated channel for ubuntu-feisty?
[05:04] <erUSUL> !feisty
[05:04] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:04] <Shafto> mawe, #ubuntu+1
[05:04] <VrIgHtEr> i have just installed ubuntu edgy on my computer, it has an integrated intel 82865G graphics chipset. It's stuck at 640x480 resolution and i have no other resolution
[05:04] <mawe> thanks!
[05:04] <dooglus> is there a folding editor (like kate) which doesn't need all that Qt stuff installed?
[05:05] <Shafto> VrIgHtEr, You tried manually adding resolutions in x config?
[05:05] <sipior> dooglus: vim has folds, as does emacs, iirc
[05:05] <jalway> I have tried two different wireless adapters. One is recongized by the network manager, and the other is not.
[05:05] <VrIgHtEr> they are added there i think cos i checked
[05:05] <USSJoin> sipior: Does Ubuntu know when it'll re-release the kernel so that it'll work?
[05:05] <dooglus> sipior: how do you use emacs folds?
[05:05] <Shafto> USSJoin, ASAP
[05:05] <sipior> USSJoin: no idea, should probably ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:05] <jalway> Does anyone have  a suggestion as to a good Wireless Card for Ubuntu?
[05:05] <VrIgHtEr> i read about a problem with the intel graphics. i tried installing 915resolution but it didn't work
[05:06] <sipior> dooglus: i don't actually know, check the manual
[05:06] <sipior> dooglus: i use gvim :)
[05:06] <mdolan> jalway: atheros cards work well with ubuntu
[05:06] <jalway> Do they have a Wireless USB version?
[05:07] <jalway> (Not on a laptop, and don't have any free PCI ports.)
[05:07] <predaeus> VrIgHtEr, if you know what resolution your monitor/gfx card supports you could add the resolution to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf resolution section.
[05:07] <elik> hi, im using ubuntu edgy, i tried to install drivers for ATI RV280 by easyubuntu
[05:07] <elik> but i dont have direct rendering
[05:08] <kitche> !easyubuntu | elik
[05:08] <ubotu> elik: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:08] <roland_> what are the bigest 3 reasons to upgrade to fesity?
[05:08] <fiery_cleric> is that like a quiz question
[05:09] <VrIgHtEr> there are no resolutions listed in xorg.conf
[05:09] <roland_> yes
[05:09] <Hobbsee> roland_: see the release notes when they're out
[05:09] <ubuntu_> send spike
[05:09] <sipior> well, "F" is better than "E", obviously
[05:09] <roland_> hah
[05:09] <roland_> coincidence
[05:09] <elik> okay i can install it manully could you give me advice which howto should i read to do it properly?
[05:09] <ubuntu_> do you know where to download GTA San Andreas?
[05:10] <sipior> ubuntu_: go away
[05:10] <HorizonXP> hey
[05:10] <EdgEy> roland if you want reasons don't upgrade
[05:10] <Shafto> ubuntu_, You be a good boy and buy it!
[05:10] <HorizonXP> yesterday's Feisty update
[05:10] <EdgEy> if there's nothing in it for you don't bother :p
[05:10] <HorizonXP> kinda messed up my wireless icons
[05:10] <fiery_cleric> i still use dapper.... back in the dark ages
[05:11] <HorizonXP> my wireless internet still works and all
[05:11] <predaeus> VrIgHtEr, can you paste the content of xorg.conf here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and post the link to it here?
[05:11] <HorizonXP> but it doesn't do the connecting animation, while it's trying to get an IP address
[05:11] <roland_> and i still use sco , back in ancient age
[05:11] <Shafto> roland_, sco?
[05:11] <HorizonXP> it just sits at the empty bars icon, until it does get an IP, when it shows whatever strength it has
[05:11] <roland_> Shafto: ummm...
[05:11] <roland_> yea...
[05:11] <roland_> SCO OpenServer(tm)
[05:12] <HorizonXP> that, and i have to force it to connect to some random wireless network, then reconnect to my network of choice before it connects
[05:12] <kitche> Shafto: SCO is a company that tried to destroy Linux but in the process destroyed itself
[05:12] <fiery_cleric> thats not something u like to admit tho is it
[05:12] <Shafto> kitche, Haha great
[05:12] <VrIgHtEr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15391/
[05:13] <VrIgHtEr> all resolutions in the file are 1024x768
[05:13] <VrIgHtEr> but my res is still 640x480
[05:13] <roland_> heh who cares about sco... they suck... but their unix is still good enough for servers
[05:13] <tanto> what's the name of the apt package that makes me coffee in the morning?
[05:13] <fiery_cleric> java
[05:13] <_Malloy_> sipior, nothing so far here with firefox and mms....
[05:14] <VrIgHtEr> tanto: apt-get intall coffeemaker
[05:14] <predaeus> VrIgHtEr, yup looks like a fallback because those don't work either.
[05:14] <_Malloy_> sipior, not even with only totem installed and with or without the strings on config
[05:14] <tanto> coffeemaker, i should have guessed :)
[05:14] <tanto> thanks !
[05:14] <fiery_cleric> _Malloy_: what happens when u type about:plugins ?
[05:14] <ubd> help with this printing problem pls: http://rafb.net/p/yqU7YH57.html
[05:14] <predaeus> VrIgHtEr, do you speak german?
[05:14] <VrIgHtEr> no i don't speak german. sry
[05:14] <sipior> _Malloy_: sorry, looks like you're sol for the moment. perhaps a fresh feisty install will sort it out
[05:14] <Kopfgeldjaeger> y
[05:15] <predaeus> VrIgHtEr, bummer, I've found a thread with similar problems could be a solution.
[05:15] <crayzee> I have an X2 processor. When I try and play unreal tournament the game speeds up in simple schemes and slows down in complex ones. I have set the scaling_govenor to "performance" and "bind <pid> 1"'d the process to one core of my processor... what more can I do?
[05:15] <VrIgHtEr> post the link pls i could try to use an online translator, maybe make something out
[05:15] <Stig_> How do I play .avi movies, etc? It says "You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins." what decoder do I need?!
[05:15] <kitche> Stig_: avi files can be any format
[05:15] <_Malloy_> fiery_cleric, it shows me normally the installed plugins, i got totem right now to try to watch mms
[05:16] <Kopfgeldjaeger> @kitche: not really, does it?
[05:16] <fiery_cleric> _Malloy_: but u want to use mplayer plugin right?
[05:16] <ubd> can anyone help with this printing problem pls: http://rafb.net/p/yqU7YH57.html
[05:16] <Stig_> I cant play any movies, doesnt matter which format ive tried
[05:16] <predaeus> VrIgHtEr, http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/33988/   last post seems to be the solution. But the problems where with an Acer monitor. so not sure. but xorg.conf shows the same chipset as yours.
[05:16] <Kopfgeldjaeger> OGG theora should work, free codec
[05:16] <kitche> Kopfgeldjaeger: avi can be divx can mpeg can be raw video
[05:16] <predaeus> VrIgHtEr, maybe search the english forums for your chipset too. I just googled a bit.
[05:16] <_Malloy_> fiery_cleric, yeah, the initial intent was to use mplayer...
[05:17] <VrIgHtEr> btw in case it's any use, i have a normal crt monitor 17"
[05:17] <Stig_> Im new to Linux and all I want to do is play a movie which is .avi, what do I need to do this?
[05:17] <Shafto> Stig_, Id get VLC player :)
[05:17] <Stig_> ok
[05:18] <predaeus> VrIgHtEr, hm yea I am not too familiar with detailed xorg settings, probably the thread posted is of no use. lets see what the forums say.
[05:18] <ubd> cupsdoprint -P 'LexmarkZ600' -J 'yaz&#305;c&#305; dene' -H 'localhost:631' -U 'huseyin' -o ' copies=1 multiple-document-handling=separate-documents-collated-copies orientation-requested=3' '/tmp/kde-huseyin/kdeprint_LSE4WQIF' : execution failed with message:
[05:18] <ubd> client-error-document-format-not-supported
[05:18] <sogen> what is good program to burn iso ?
[05:18] <fiery_cleric> _Malloy_: ive never used totem plugins so i dont know, but the mplayer plugin does a good job.... its in mozilla-mplayer package i think
[05:18] <Shafto> sogen, Do cdrecord file.iso
[05:18] <fiery_cleric> !mozilla-mplayer
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozilla-mplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <Elazar> Can anyone offer descriptions of their experiences with Feisty? I was rather turned off from Ubuntu after a lot of troubles with 6.1 and I'm curious to see if the final release of Feisty is a good time to reexamine it.
[05:19] <predaeus> VrIgHtEr, did you scan that thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351647&highlight=82865G  ?
[05:19] <sogen> Shafto: how i can brun with it ?
[05:19] <Panzer_> I don't know if I should ask here or in a samba chan.  But I am running dapper server and for some reason it does not refresh the file listings from the windows clients that I am connecting to it from
[05:19] <VrIgHtEr> not yet
[05:19] <Shafto> sogen, I believe you just cd into the directory with the iso in and then type 'cdrecord file.iso'
[05:19] <VrIgHtEr> ill check it out
[05:19] <predaeus> VrIgHtEr, try searching the forums some more, if you did not already. Might help.
[05:19] <wirelesshelpneed> can anyone help with a wireless problem?
[05:20] <erUSUL> !anyone | wirelesshelpneed
[05:20] <ubotu> wirelesshelpneed: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:20] <AlexC_> hey,
[05:20] <ravi_master> guys, do I need linux-generic installed for my machine to work?
[05:20] <wirelesshelpneed> ok
[05:20] <fiery_cleric> Panzer_: are u shore the new files in directory have the correct file permissions?
[05:20] <Nessieliberation> wirelesshelpneed: just ask the question rather than asking if anyone wants to hear your question
[05:20] <fiery_cleric> sure
[05:20] <sogen> Shafto:  sudo /home/sogen/download/xxx.iso cdrecord file.iso ?
[05:21] <erUSUL> ravi_master: yes
[05:21] <Shafto> sogen no, do a cd ~/download
[05:21] <Panzer_> fiery_cleric:  yea.  right after I make the files then if I hit F5 ont he windows box it shows up just like normal
[05:21] <Shafto> sogen, Then a cdrecord xxx.iso
[05:21] <AlexC_> I'm wondering how I can mount my fat32 partition so that Root and my User has read write execute permission, and others have only read - I've seen the guide but that gave my problems such as I could not directly download files to the fat32 drive
[05:21] <ubd> Nessieliberation: printer error : http://rafb.net/p/yqU7YH57.html can you help
[05:21] <fiery_cleric> Panzer_: so whats the problem
[05:21] <ravi_master> erUSUL: actually, I had to remove my newly updated linux kernel because it just wasn't working, when I removed it, it removed linux-generic
[05:22] <Nessieliberation> ubd: i know nothing about most things - how come you asked me?
[05:22] <predaeus> ravi_master, I think linux-generic is a meta package that depends on the package with the newest kernel for your system.
[05:22] <VrIgHtEr> i tried something like that but didn't work
[05:22] <Panzer_> fiery_cleric:  when working in a windows share from another windows box it will autorefresh if you will
[05:22] <ravi_master> erUSUL: do you know how I can reinstall the right version of linux-generic for my current kernel?
[05:22] <VrIgHtEr> i have 915resolution installed, i tried using it as several guides on the net said :S
[05:22] <Panzer_> fiery_cleric:  wanted to know if there is a setting in samba that I can change that will also make samba do this
[05:22] <HymnToLife> ravi_master, it always depends on the latest version of the kernel
[05:22] <Stig_> i've installed VLC player and I can't still play any songs, movies, etc. what plugins do I need? :S
[05:22] <ubd> pls some one help me with this printing problem !!! http://rafb.net/p/yqU7YH57.html
[05:23] <HymnToLife> so if you have the latest generic kernel, you have the latest linux-generic too
[05:23] <ravi_master> 2.6.20-13-generic 2.6.20-14-generic was removed and doesn't work.
[05:23] <fiery_cleric> Panzer_: dont know ... do windows servers do that  ?
[05:23] <_Malloy_> fiery_cleric, sorry dude, restarted here, but yeah, i was trying with mplayer, now with totem, but didn't work as well
[05:23] <ravi_master> I want to switch back to 2.6.20-13-generic only, that is what I am running right now
[05:23] <dooglus> sipior: thanks for that.  Emacs' "Foldout" mode is what I was looking for.
[05:23] <AlexC_> ravi_master: are you using Feisty?
[05:23] <Joseaa> Can anyone tell me how to restart gnome/kde from text only mode ?
[05:23] <ravi_master> AlexC_: yes sir
[05:23] <HymnToLife> I don't think I understand what you want to do...
[05:23] <sipior> dooglus: glad to help
[05:24] <AlexC_> ravi_master: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty please, and latest kernel update means hardly anyone can boot
[05:24] <whatspy> hi, I've got those nasty packet retransmission warning/error messages that keep popping in the std. input of whatever tty I'm in... I can understand these messages, cuz there's a very old network device involved; the messages are harmless, how can I just prevent them from appearing in my face ?
[05:24] <ravi_master> AlexC_: alrighty
[05:24] <Panzer_> fiery_cleric:  yea I have mixed network at home.  the only box that is not auto showing up the new stuff is the linux box
[05:24] <wirelesshelpneed> network manager and iwconfig list 2 wireless devices, wmaster0 and wlan0, but I only have 1 wireless card
[05:24] <akappa> Hi
[05:24] <erUSUL> ravi_master: linux-generic is a "dummy" package that installs the last aviable generic kernel iirc
[05:24] <Joseaa> I got a black screen after using this : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop , now can't get back the UI
[05:24] <HymnToLife> that solves more than half of the Feisty problems we see :p
[05:24] <EdgEy>  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:24] <wirelesshelpneed> how do I know which I should be configuring
[05:24] <EdgEy> duh? ;)
[05:25] <fiery_cleric> Panzer_: ok well i dont know try looking with man smb.conf
[05:25] <Panzer_> fiery_cleric:   thanks then.  I will
[05:25] <Joseaa> EdgEy: tried that but it doesn't work
[05:25] <wirelesshelpneed> neither seems to work
[05:26] <Joseaa> anyone ?
[05:26] <prakka> what is the question again..?
[05:26] <Joseaa> 	I got a black screen after using this : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop , now can't get back the UI
[05:26] <sipior> Joseaa: you're at the console?
[05:26] <prakka> press ctrl-alt-F1
[05:27] <whatspy> ah, I've got it... eth0: packet retransmission error. probably a duplex mismatch. (insert tons of numeric weird data here)
[05:27] <ravi_master> anyone have a good guide for installing Ubuntu on a Compaq V2000?
[05:27] <whatspy> how can I disable messages like this ?
[05:27] <sidny4> h-ok, so, how do I connect to a WPA secured wireless network without using network-manager-gnome (always have issues with that program)
[05:27] <AlbertoP> hello
[05:27] <roland_> are there any of you people here that use ubuntu feisty now ?
[05:27] <sipior> Joseaa: does alt-F7 get you anywhere?
[05:27] <roland_> as main desktop
[05:27] <AlexC_> roland_: yes,
[05:27] <Joseaa> sipior: This is a different system. I can't back to UI in the other sytem
[05:27] <akappa> Anyone here works with pthreads? Some files included by unistd.h defines the same symbols that are exported by pthread.h ...
[05:28] <sipior> Joseaa: you were logged into X when you killed gdm?
[05:28] <AlexC_> roland_: I had to reinstall it this morning though, as latest updates meant I couldn't boot ... so I still would not reccomend it for main desktop
[05:28] <Joseaa> alt f7 cleared the screen ..
[05:28] <Joseaa> now it's completely black
[05:28] <kitche> Joseaa: well /etc/init.d/gdm stops X
[05:28] <AlexC_> Joseaa: no text?
[05:28] <roland_> AlexC_ : but i can skip updating until official and final fesity release is out and only then update once and for all
[05:28] <kitche> Joseaa: you have to ctrl+alt+f1 sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:28] <andreus> could somebody tell me how do i find a file or a directory. i have mounted samba.. windows sees it and lets create dirs and files.. but i cannot find it on the server..
[05:28] <fiery_cleric> akappa: do u need to include both files?
[05:28] <sipior> kitche: i don't think that's true. it should only kill the display manager
[05:28] <Joseaa> AlexC_:  yes, nothing on the screen now after alt f7
[05:28] <AlexC_> roland_: yes, thats what I'm doing now - I have a notification telling me to upgrade, but I'm not doing it :P
[05:29] <kitche> sipior: umm gdm kills X when it's stopped
[05:29] <AlexC_> Joseaa: press ctrl+alt+backspace again, I had that sometimes
[05:29] <AlexC_> Joseaa: nono
[05:29] <akappa> fiery_cleric, yes
[05:29] <EdgEy> Joseaa, Ctrl+Alt+F1
[05:29] <AlexC_> Joseaa: ctrl+alt+f1 to get to tty1
[05:29] <AlexC_> EdgEy: =)
[05:29] <EdgEy> then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:29] <ravi_master> anyone have a good guide for installing Ubuntu on a Compaq V2000?
[05:29] <AlexC_> Joseaa: then type startx
[05:29] <EdgEy> you may have to login first
[05:29] <kermit56780> does anyone know how to delete an applet from the panels configuration.
[05:29] <akappa> fiery_cleric, but I don't want that unistd.h includes things that are related with posix threads...
[05:29] <EdgEy> ravi_master, guide? you can't just put the cd in and install? ;)
[05:30] <Administrator> kermit56780: right click on it and click remove from panel
[05:30] <andreus> could somebody tell me how do i find a file or a directory. i have mounted samba.. windows sees it and lets create dirs and files.. but i cannot find it on the server.. trying to figure how it works on shell.. anyone?
[05:30] <Administrator> wtf?
[05:30] <AlexC_> lol
[05:30] <Joseaa> AlexC_:  Yea, that works.. thanks
[05:30] <AlexC_> Joseaa: your welcome
[05:30] <cables> wow, how's I ge\t the nick administrator?
[05:30] <kermit56780> I crashed webilder by deleting the picture directories by mistake, iv tryed uninstalling/reinstalling webilder but when i try to ADD the applet to the panel it says The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_WebilderApplet".
[05:30] <wirelesshelpneed> network manager and iwconfig show 2 wireless devices, wmaster0 and wlan0, but only one wirelesscard, neither seems to configure properly
[05:30] <fiery_cleric> akappa: i just did a test seems to work on my gcc setup
[05:31] <AlexC_> wirelesshelpneed: are you using Feisty?
[05:31] <akappa> fiery_cleric, in my setup doesn't work
[05:31] <wirelesshelpneed> No,
[05:31] <akappa> I have a 7.04
[05:31] <PriceChild> akappa, #ubuntu+!
[05:31] <PriceChild> akappa, #ubuntu+1
[05:31] <Nessieliberation> 7.04 help at #ubuntu+1
[05:31] <wirelesshelpneed> .10
[05:31] <akappa> oh, thanks
[05:31] <Lin> from a minimal system, which packages should I install to have a fully desktop version of ubuntu (with office, gnome, desktop things, theme, gdm, usplash, management ...)?
[05:31] <akappa> sorry :P
[05:31] <cables> I'm setting up Ubuntu for my grandmother, and I'm wondering if 5 gb is a large enough space to get Ubuntu installed and running. All I'm planning on setting up for it is Thunderbird.
[05:31] <SlimeyPete> andreus: "find / -name <filename>" will work
[05:31] <Kopfgeldjaeger> @lin: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <Shafto> Lin, ubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <PriceChild> cables, that's fine
[05:32] <cables> PriceChild: thanks
[05:32] <Shafto> Lin, I think
[05:32] <wirelesshelpneed> card uses RALink chipset
[05:32] <andreus> SlimeyPete: thank you
[05:32] <SlimeyPete> cables: I'm running Kubuntu Feisty with a ton of stuff installed and I'm using 5.7GB plus a gig of swap space.
[05:32] <fiery_cleric> akappa: including #include <unistd.h> #include <pthread.h> doenst cause a pre processor error for me
[05:32] <roland_> when will gpl v3 be ready ?
[05:33] <cables> SlimeyPete: that's awesome.
[05:33] <akappa> fiery_cleric, it isn't a preprocessor warning, it just is a compilation error
[05:33] <moxxe> roland_: when hurd releases
[05:33] <EdgEy> cables well, consider, the install cd is only 700mb (of course that's compressed, but)
[05:33] <akappa> some classic example doesn't compile on my machine
[05:33] <EdgEy> i think around 2gb for ubuntu and then 512/1gb of swap should be fine
[05:34] <EdgEy> though bigger is needed if you plan to use the machine for more than just email
[05:34] <Kopfgeldjaeger> feisty runs in vmware with 3,4 GB (all)
[05:34] <wirelesshelpneed> Ubuntu version 6.10
[05:35] <elik> hi again, i tried install my ati drivers for Radeon 9200 SE manually, but still direct rendering: no
[05:35] <elik> some suggestions?
[05:35] <sipior> kitche: well, please allow me to withdraw my previous remark. killnig gdm does in fact kill X. seems strange, since the daemon should only govern new connections...
[05:36] <variant> sipior: gdm is the parent process of the x server
[05:36] <wirelesshelpneed> networkmanager and iwconfig show 2 wireless devices, but only one card is present, neither connect when configured
[05:36] <sipior> variant: i noticed
[05:37] <wirelesshelpneed> RaLink RT2561/RT61 chipset
[05:38] <Harpette> !man
[05:38] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:38] <javaJake> I need to turn off "passive FTP" for Nautilus. How do I do this? Or is there a client available that I could use instead that can turn off passive FTP?
[05:38] <rambo3> i think rt61is in restricted modules
[05:38] <elik> what i did was sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[05:38] <wirelesshelpneed> restricted modules?
[05:39] <elik> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:39] <elik> and restart windows
[05:40] <sogen> can someone help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15398/ ?:P
[05:40] <wirelesshelpneed> I don't understand
[05:40] <EdgEy> sogen try sudo cdrecord winxp.iso ?
[05:41] <rambo3> wirelesshelpneed,you need module and firmware to get it to work .
[05:41] <Shafto> sogen, If not get k3b from package mangement
[05:41] <wirelesshelpneed> firmware should be ok, I was able to get it to work with debian
[05:41] <linrunix_> putin,
[05:42] <linrunix_> putin, martin de este lado
[05:42] <Pici> !es | linrunix_
[05:42] <ubotu> linrunix_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:42] <EdgEy> Shafto doesn't k3b just use cdrecord anyway?
[05:42] <EdgEy> too late
[05:42] <linrunix_> putin, escribe lo siguiente /j #codigolibre
[05:42] <sogen> EdgEy: btw that was my list cd :(
[05:42] <sogen> last*
[05:42] <EdgEy> it shouldnt have actually burned anything.
[05:42] <linrunix_> Pici, just helping somebody with MIRC
[05:42] <rambo3> wirelesshelpneed, then it should work. try manual config with iwconfig first
[05:42] <Pici> linrunix_: Oh, just looked up at the screen, sorry ;)
[05:43] <ShaPuZ> viva la concha
[05:43] <ShaPuZ> de la lora
[05:43] <sogen> EdgEy: it burned 50mb and stoped :(
[05:43] <ShaPuZ> viva la uraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:43] <ShaPuZ> viva la uraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:43] <wirelesshelpneed> I did try iwconfig
[05:43] <EdgEy> sogen sure your image and cd are ok?
[05:43] <EdgEy> heh
[05:43] <patrick__> hi all, anyone could answer a question about permission problems in /usr/lib/cgi-bin ?
[05:43] <ShaPuZ> chupenme el pingooooooooooooooooo
[05:43] <sipior> what's with the spanish thing today?
[05:43] <ShaPuZ> chupenme el pingooooooooooooooooo
[05:43] <Pici> !english | ShaPuZ
[05:43] <ubotu> ShaPuZ: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:44] <ShaPuZ> ops
[05:44] <ShaPuZ> sorry
[05:44] <wirelesshelpneed> part of the confusionis that there are 2 wireless devices listed, and I dont know which I should be configuring
[05:44] <rambo3> wirelesshelpneed, ra0
[05:44] <javaJake> Can someone put "English only - see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat for other languages" in the topic? Or something like that?
[05:44] <AlexC_> what's the point?
[05:44] <sogen> EdgEy: cd is not ok :/
[05:44] <wirelesshelpneed> ra0 is the module?
[05:44] <AlexC_> If they can't read english, how will they read an english message to view a link in their own language, javaJake?
[05:44] <sogen> EdgEy: only 50 mb burned :(
[05:45] <osfameron> and mostly people don't read /topic
[05:45] <rambo3> wirelesshelpneed, no the device
[05:45] <Pici> javaJake: No one reads the topic anyway :(
[05:45] <Pici> javaJake: But I'll suggest it to the ops anyway
[05:45] <AlexC_> I see no point personally!
[05:45] <EdgEy> sogen was it scratched or something before burning
[05:45] <AlexC_> If they can't read english, how will they read the message which is in english? :P
[05:45] <wirelesshelpneed> rambo3 ahh, so if ra0?  all I have is wlan0 and wmaster0
[05:45] <sogen> EdgEy: no
[05:45] <javaJake> AlexC_, well, what else can we do?
[05:46] <sogen> EdgEy: it was fully new
[05:46] <rambo3> wirelesshelpneed, do : modprobe rt61 and look at dmesg (wmaster0 is not a device)
[05:46] <AlexC_> do the appropiate ! for them, eg if they are taking french do !fr | username  german, !de | german
[05:46] <AlexC_> and it will send them a message in their language, javaJake, telling them to go into the channel that speaks, german for example
[05:46] <sogen> EdgEy: i just want to brun windox xp and install it to play games :(
[05:47] <javaJake> AlexC_, is there a way to tell if their client is in so-and-so language, so automatically give them the ! thing?
[05:47] <Pici> javaJake: According to the ops, the languages thing is in the FAQ, which is in the topic
[05:47] <javaJake> Pici, oh, OK.....
[05:47] <AlexC_> javaJake: hum, maybe .... ubot would have to get smarter
[05:47] <AlexC_> !botsnack
[05:47] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:47] <sogen> EdgEy: ubuntu is so stupid and games dont work on it :(
[05:47] <javaJake> lol
[05:47] <wirelesshelpneed> I see, module rt61 not found
[05:47] <HymnToLife> javaJake, that would mak no sense
[05:47] <Lbawinowns> Hello all :)!  What must I do to have acces to my files that I think is on linux partition
[05:48] <javaJake> HymnToLife, why not?
[05:48] <AlexC_> open up Nautilus, Lbawinowns?
[05:48] <wirelesshelpneed> So I understand now, the rt61 module will give me the ra0 device?
[05:48] <javaJake> Lbawinowns, OK
[05:48] <HymnToLife> I'm French but rarely go to #ubuntu-fr and friends
[05:48] <EdgEy> sogen, considering the problems you're having with simply burning a cd, it's probably your fault lol
[05:48] <ppd> hi. has anyone suspend2 working on ubuntu (feisty) ?
[05:48] <Lbawinowns> What is Nautilius?
[05:48] <javaJake> Lbawinowns, do you know which partition?
[05:48] <rambo3> wirelesshelpneed, yes
[05:48] <AlexC_> HymnToLife: it would only notify them, not force them to go into #ubuntu-fr
[05:48] <Lbawinowns> I think it's partition 4
[05:48] <javaJake> Lbawinowns, the file viewer. The thing that opens when you click on Places -> Home
[05:48] <HymnToLife> that would still be annoying
[05:48] <javaJake> Lbawinowns, only one hd?
[05:49] <Lbawinowns> Yea, I got only 1 hd, with several partiotions
[05:49] <wirelesshelpneed> is apt-get the only way to get the module?  I would have to bring the computer to another building to connect wired
[05:49] <Lbawinowns> I can view and open the files. But I can't write
[05:49] <javaJake> HymnToLife, no more annoying then having them say "viva la uraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" over and over. :P
[05:49] <jonah> does anyone here know how to run mac os x in vmware player through ubuntu?
[05:49] <rambo3> wirelesshelpneed, install linux-restricted-modules  and se its there . if not you ll have to compile your own
[05:49] <sipior> yeah, there's really no channel where bad spanish singing will be tolerated
[05:49] <javaJake> Lbawinowns, ah, so you can see all your files?
[05:49] <javaJake> Lbawinowns, you just can't write?
[05:49] <cfgnunes> oi
[05:49] <Lbawinowns> Yes, I can see the linux files
[05:49] <ingrid> tigm
[05:50] <predaeus> wirelesshelpneed, you can put the .deb on a disk and take it to your comp for installation.
[05:50] <Lbawinowns> But I can't write
[05:50] <javaJake> Lbawinowns, what file exactly?
[05:50] <unimatrix9> jonah tiger image, somewhere....for vmware...( legal? )
[05:50] <cfgnunes> Hello people iam braziliam!
[05:50] <sogen> EdgEy: you good know linux ?
[05:50] <Lbawinowns> at least not the \etc\apt\sources.list
[05:50] <predaeus> wirelesshelpneed, see http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/  for direct package downloads
[05:50] <javaJake> AlexC_, cfgnunes needs an ! I think
[05:50] <AlexC_> javaJake: what does?
[05:50] <sipior> cfgnunes: no bad portuguese singing either!
[05:51] <javaJake> AlexC_, cfgnunes left, nvm
[05:51] <rambo3> wirelesshelpneed, if you have install CD  i think build-essential is on it , download ralink module from internet and save it on usb . compile on that computer
[05:51] <HymnToLife> Lbawinowns, Unix-lines use / in file paths, not \
[05:51] <jonah> unimatrix, so is vmware the best thing to use, i do have mac os x legal copy etc
[05:51] <Lbawinowns> whatever.
[05:51] <AlexC_> no, it really does =D
[05:51] <HymnToLife> \ is in The-OS-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named :p
[05:51] <unimatrix9> yes jonah, but its not fast...
[05:51] <Lbawinowns> lol, It's with / then
[05:51] <javaJake> Lbawinowns, you cannot (or should not be able to) write any file outside of your home directory without being root
[05:52] <Lbawinowns> I've just migrated ;)
[05:52] <lolman> Doesn't the OSX EULA restrict the machines you can use it on to Apple ones only?
[05:52] <jonah> unimatrix, what do you mean by not fast, does it suck?
[05:52] <retard-ed> lolman yes it does
[05:52] <EdgEy> eula's are not law
[05:52] <javaJake> Lbawinowns, any file outside your home directory is essentially owned by the system.
[05:52] <wirelesshelpneed> ok thanks!
[05:52] <HymnToLife> yep it does
[05:52] <sipior> yeah, i didn't think one could run OSX on vmware
[05:52] <Lbawinowns> Hmmm- VLC homepage says I should. How do I then install VLC?
[05:52] <HymnToLife> but who care about EULAs ?
[05:52] <unimatrix9> jonah , on mine it did...but dont have much ram...
[05:52] <Lbawinowns> Ok, I won't touch those files then...
[05:52] <AlexC_> Lbawinowns: System->Admin->Synaptic
[05:52] <HymnToLife> Lbawinowns, sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:52] <lolman> HymnToLife, good point ;)
[05:53] <AlexC_> HymnToLife: be nice and give GUI :P
[05:53] <wirelesshelpneed> one last doublcheck, the module name?
[05:53] <AlexC_> Lbawinowns: I highly suggest you read these: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[05:53] <rambo3> wirelesshelpneed, http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[05:54] <AlexC_> Lbawinowns: basically, in Ubuntu and Linux in general, we don't hunt around the internet downloading random files
[05:54] <Lbawinowns> Thanks Hymn, I think i installed it now, but how do i run my video files with it?
[05:54] <AlexC_> we have a centralised repository to get our programs from,
[05:54] <wirelesshelpneed> gotch. thanks rambo!
[05:54] <Lbawinowns> Thanks Alex too
[05:54] <HymnToLife> Lbawinowns, it should be in your Apps>Multimedia menu or something like that
[05:55] <sogen> EdgEy: you good know ubuntu ?
[05:55] <retard-ed> i got a T7200 cpu . according to the intel site it got em64T ( i assume thats 64 bits ??) would you recommend me to get into more trouble trying to figure out if i can run ubuntu 64 bit version or should i stick to the 32 bit version ??
[05:55] <titch> ive got it working! however i do need to install my drivers rite?
[05:55] <Lbawinowns> Nope, it isnt there
[05:56] <Lbawinowns> Oh, It said it didnt work to just write "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[05:56] <HymnToLife> retard-ed, you can run Ubuntu 64 bits
[05:56] <Durtro> hey
[05:56] <Evil_Ed> hey
[05:56] <HymnToLife> but I still recommend installing the 32bits one
[05:56] <retard-ed> ok
[05:56] <Kopfgeldjaeger> ehrm... Are there already some feisty-specific full-encryption (but boot) out there in outer space?
[05:56] <Kopfgeldjaeger> line1: + tutorials
[05:56] <sipior> retard-ed: you can always have a go with the 64-bit install cd, and bail if it doesn't work out
[05:56] <cyberfr0g`> sup?
[05:56] <spectrm> anyone know where the menu xml files are for gnome-2.14 ?  alacarte and 'gnome-menu-editor' have totally fubar'd the whole thing
[05:57] <Nessieliberation> what about a comprimise: 48 bit ? [joke] 
[05:57] <cyberfr0g`> unsure
[05:57] <Evil_Ed> private
[05:57] <jair> hey guys, in ubuntu how can i remove all the ethx physically and then install them again
[05:57] <jair> ?
[05:57] <Durtro> don't know
[05:57] <HymnToLife> jair, plug out your NICs
[05:57] <sipior> spectrm: i'm fairly certain that it /usr/share/applications
[05:57] <spectrm> jair: rmmod
[05:57] <jair> I did a backup using "g4l" software and when restored the mac address is making ubuntu to get confuse
[05:57] <spectrm> sipior: k
[05:57] <Lbawinowns> Videolan doesnt exist in synaptic
[05:57] <jair> HymnToLife: nice ...
[05:58] <retard-ed> ok brb going to burn the 6.10 desktop iso to cd. will let you know
[05:58] <retard-ed> :d
[05:58] <Agrajag> Lbawinowns: it's vlc.
[05:58] <HymnToLife> Lbawinowns, yes it does, maybe you just don't have the corect repos enabled
[05:58] <Pici> Lbawinowns: Its also in the Universe repo
[05:58] <zaphands> Hello. What's the difference between 6.10 and 6.06 LTS?
[05:58] <spectrm> sipior: no...I mean the menu layout - the application launchers are fine as they are, I need to mess with the order/hierarchy
[05:58] <jair> spectrm: I basically want make ubuntu to recognize the wireless and ethernet card from scratch
[05:58] <sipior> zaphands: 0.04
[05:58] <Lbawinowns> theres no vlc either.
[05:58] <zaphands> :-)
[05:58] <Lbawinowns> what are repos?
[05:58] <spectrm> jair: what kind of card?  cuz it should already
[05:58] <HymnToLife> sipior, 0.039, rather
[05:58] <sipior> zaphands: also support terms are sdifferent
[05:58] <Pici> !repo | Lbawinowns
[05:58] <ubotu> Lbawinowns: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:59] <HymnToLife> since it's 6.061 now
[05:59] <spectrm> Lbawinowns: locations of software packages that are pre-built for your system and preconfigured to interface with your installation software
[05:59] <sipior> HymnToLife: ah, quite so
[05:59] <Epic720> How good is the support for 8 series Geforce cards in feisty?
[05:59] <spectrm> Lbawinowns: translation -> the best things ever invented
[05:59] <spectrm> Epic720: depends on your driver
[05:59] <spectrm> Epic720: not ubuntu
[05:59] <jair> spectrm: it recognize it already it just recognized as "eth1" because it thinks that the "eth0" is in use. I did a restore of a back up to my ubuntu using g4l
[05:59] <HymnToLife> Epic720, very good, since it uses the 97xx driver
[06:00] <zaphands> which is newer? it's confusing since it seems that the older version is supported for a longer period.
[06:00] <spectrm> jair: well...eth0 will always be your hardwire...just disable eth0 and all the routing info will default to eth1
[06:00] <jair> spectrm: do you understand now?
[06:00] <HymnToLife> !ifrename | jair
[06:00] <ubotu> jair: ifrename allows you to rename interfaces at boot based on various criteria such as driver, mac address, etc. 'man ifrename' and 'man iftab' for details on configuration.
[06:00] <sipior> zaphands: 6.10 is newer
[06:00] <nenyalorien> hi
[06:00] <Epic720> Has anyone experienced anything bad with an 8 series under feisty?
[06:00] <nenyalorien> i would just like to ask
[06:00] <spectrm> jair: ubotu has that one pretty well
[06:00] <jair> spectrm: again: I want to remove both so the system recognize again eth0
[06:00] <nenyalorien> is the wine distro for edgy good for feisty?
[06:00] <HymnToLife> Epic720, yes, not under FEisty but that doesn't matter
[06:00] <HymnToLife> as long as you use the right driver
[06:01] <pedropax83> ?
[06:01] <pedropax83> wooo
[06:01] <jair> spectrm: nice
[06:01] <spectrm> sipior: these are the .desktop files...I need the menu files - the ones that determine which of these .desktop files are present and in what order
[06:01] <pedropax83> alguien al otro lado?
[06:01] <jair> cool
[06:01] <sipior> zaphands: it's the last digit of the year, plus the month. the long-term support came about for folks who like a bit of stability, but don't feel like running debian for some reason
[06:01] <zaphands> Does the server edition CD has X? Gnome? office? Is it possible to install them over the net?
[06:01] <jair> spectrm: I will try that then
[06:01] <jair> Thank you HymnToLife
[06:01] <kitche> zaphands: have to isntall them though the net
[06:01] <HymnToLife> jair, just use ifrename to rename your eth1 to eth0
[06:02] <titch> ive got an error when trying to install the nvidia driver... it says it has to be run as root
[06:02] <sipior> spectrm: i believe the menu is an element of the fiel itself
[06:02] <erUSUL> zaphands: no, no, no and yes ;P
[06:02] <HymnToLife> that's what I was doing when Debian used eth0 for the Firewire Ethernet I was not using
[06:02] <Epic720> HymnToLife, so how many problems am I going to have when I upgrade to an 8 series?
[06:02] <HymnToLife> Epic720, non
[06:02] <spectrm> sipior: not sure what you mean there
[06:02] <HymnToLife> none*
[06:02] <Epic720> Ok, Thanks!
[06:02] <jair> HymnToLife: I got your message :) Thank you though
[06:02] <HymnToLife> as long as you're using a 97xx driver, which is default in Feisty
[06:03] <zaphands> Does the cd contain a list of repositories?
[06:03] <jair> HymnToLife: also for some reason I had the default kernel 386 for my ubuntu and was recognizing the wireless atheros with not issues
[06:03] <catalyst_media> are any of you guys running vmware is fo can you help me with sharing files and folders
[06:03] <jair> HymnToLife: now I upgrade my kernel to the ubuntu one but 686 since I have a centrino chip
[06:04] <zaphands> does the cd contain aptitude or any other console based / curses based packaging manager
[06:04] <sipior> spectrm: i was under the impression that the information at the end of each desktop file told gnome where to stick each menu entry
[06:04] <HymnToLife> catalyst_media, do it exactly the same way as between two different physical machines
[06:04] <jair> HymnToLife: now I think i will have to install firmware and all such of things to make it work again
[06:04] <Joseaa> Can anyone provide a  link for a simple walk through to change the screen resolution ?
[06:04] <HymnToLife> Samba, NFS, FTP, whatever
[06:04] <kitche> zaphands: the cd has everything that a base ubuntu has
[06:04] <sipior> spectrm: however, i never seem to fully get gnome menu entries, so take with a grain of salt
[06:04] <zaphands> kitche: where can I see a list of what the base ubuntu has?
[06:04] <spectrm> sipior: that could be...if so, that's messed up...but I'll check it out
[06:04] <spectrm> sipior: thanks
[06:04] <catalyst_media> I have sharing enabled but when I try to drag files in I just get a circle wiht a slash through it! and my shared foldes dont show up
[06:04] <sipior> spectrm: good luck
[06:04] <HymnToLife> jair, what kind of wireless card do you have ? I thought Centrinos all had an Intel one
[06:05] <Joseaa> i can't increase the resolution more than 1024x768
[06:05] <kitche> zaphands: after you install the server just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and that is waht ubuntu is
[06:05] <HymnToLife> !fixres | Joseaa
[06:05] <ubotu> Joseaa: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:05] <jair> HymnToLife: I will paste it here
[06:05] <catalyst_media> do I need to change permissions on the host?
[06:05] <Lbawinowns> Ok guys, I see now the list and it has very many different "components" in it, should i install them all (Im installing VLC)
[06:05] <zaphands> kitche: Thanks :-) Is is possible to do the other way around?
[06:05] <HymnToLife> Lbawinowns, just install "vlc"
[06:05] <kitche> zaphands: umm you can use the alternate cd
[06:05] <HymnToLife> that should be enough
[06:06] <zaphands> kitche: alternate = server edition ?
[06:06] <berent> join #phpcake
[06:06] <HymnToLife> zaphands, no
[06:06] <titch> when i run the nividia driver it says i have to be logged in as root?
[06:06] <cfgnunes> h
[06:06] <HymnToLife> titch, define "run"
[06:06] <Lbawinowns> there ate  many packages, in the vlc category
[06:06] <cfgnunes> sudo is ideal
[06:06] <titch> i type : sh filename
[06:06] <HymnToLife> are you trying to use the installer from nvidia.com ?
[06:06] <zaphands> HymnToLife: So what's the alternate cd?
[06:06] <HymnToLife> oh
[06:07] <Kopfgeldjaeger> ehrm... Are there already some feisty-specific full-encryption (but boot) tutorials out there in outer space?
[06:07] <HymnToLife> this not the way they usually do it in Ubuntu
[06:07] <HymnToLife> !nvidia | titch
[06:07] <ubotu> titch: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:07] <Lbawinowns> there are*
[06:07] <cfgnunes> linux is a GOD!
[06:07] <kitche> zaphands: you can install server from the alternate though
[06:07] <Panzer_> zaphands:  the alt cd is normally for text based installs
[06:07] <titch> ok thanks
[06:07] <wangsf> hi all ^^
[06:07] <jair> HymnToLife: 0000:02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[06:07] <jair> HymnToLife: that is my card
[06:07] <Kopfgeldjaeger> !linux | cfgnunes
[06:07] <sipior> cfgnunes: no. I am a god. but I do run linux.
[06:07] <ubotu> cfgnunes: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[06:08] <HymnToLife> zaphands, text based installer
[06:08] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hehe, I like piping in irc, thats cool
[06:08] <OpenTokix> That explanation is kinda skewed
[06:08] <Panzer_> zaphands:  the alt install is also for when the live cd is giving trouble.  I had dma error on the live cd when trying to install dapper to my scsi setup
[06:08] <jair> HymnToLife: HymnToLife I was wondering if I need to download a driver or something?
[06:08] <zaphands> Where can I find that alternate cd?
[06:08] <spectrm> sipior: yeah...it looks like the apps location is determined by the category field of the .desktop file - I can see why they did this, but they should still have an additional handler - like e17 has - to reorder and organize things to your liking...
[06:08] <HymnToLife> jair, I never used atheros stuff myself but make sure you have the restricted-modules matching the new kernel
[06:08] <Ostebaronen> Hello ppl... i've got a little problem... I've assigned some of my Fn-keys on my laptop to turn up/down the sound. But when using them it turns up/down for the microphone not Master
[06:09] <Ostebaronen> Hello ppl... i've got a little problem... I've assigned some of my Fn-keys on my laptop to turn up/down the sound. But when using them it turns up/down for the microphone not Master
[06:09] <Ostebaronen> hmm
[06:09] <HymnToLife> jair, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:09] <jair> HymnToLife: how can I check that or is there a tutorial for ubuntu?
[06:09] <Panzer_> zaphands:  you would be able to find the cd from the ubuntu site
[06:09] <jair> HymnToLife: nice
[06:09] <jair> HymnToLife: ok let me check that
[06:09] <jair> restricted modules
[06:09] <jair> ok
[06:10] <J-Man5> I've been reading online trying to find documentation if I can load Ubuntu on my tabletpc.  I've read through the wiki and it seems to me that the wacom support needs to be built into the kernel.  does that seem correct?
[06:10] <Lbawinowns> Thanks guys, VLC is working now :), how do i make that my standard video reader?
[06:10] <binks_> [16:43]  <binks> anyone good with nfs can help me set it up
[06:10] <binks_> [16:43]  <binks> i installe dit
[06:10] <binks_> [16:43]  <binks> now what do i put in /etc/exports
[06:10] <binks_> [16:44]  <binks> is it the location of the folder on my sys i want to share
[06:10] <kitche> J-Man5: ubuntu supports wacom
[06:10] <jair> HymnToLife: really quick, so if I need to rename my eth1 to eth0 I do:  ifrename eth1 eth0?
[06:10] <erUSUL> !nfs
[06:10] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:10] <anhdepyeu> Hey, I'm trying to 'apt-get upgrade' feisty-beta, but getting 'Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb  403 Forbidden [IP: X.X.X.X 80] ', which is strange because the X.X.X.X in the error message is an IP address (not mine), which is in UK (I am in US).  Anyone know anythign about this?
[06:11] <rambo3> just that ubuntu doesnt know how to pronounce  wacom
[06:11] <variant> Lbawinowns: the easyest way but not exactly the most elegant way is to do this: mv /usr/bin/totem /usr/bin/totem.backup && ln -s /usr/bin/vlc /usr/bin/totem
[06:11] <HymnToLife> jair, no, it's a bit more complicated than that, you don't want to rename your IF while the system is up
[06:11] <J-Man5> kitche: do you know of any docs or suggestions on installing it
[06:11] <HymnToLife> you configure ifrename to do it at boot-time
[06:11] <variant> Lbawinowns: that will be deleted the next time you update the system though (if there is a totem update included)
[06:11] <kitche> J-Man5: by default the X uses wacom5 in it's config
[06:11] <Panzer_> ifrename?
[06:12] <HymnToLife> !ifrename
[06:12] <ubotu> ifrename allows you to rename interfaces at boot based on various criteria such as driver, mac address, etc. 'man ifrename' and 'man iftab' for details on configuration.
[06:12] <Lbawinowns> It said accces denied variant
[06:12] <variant> Lbawinowns: as there is no way to set the default video player on a system wide basis unless you do that
[06:12] <kitche> J-Man5: sicne I don't have wacom I had to take that part out of it's config
[06:12] <Panzer_> in thanks
[06:13] <Lbawinowns> cannot move blabla/totem to  blabla/totem.backup : acces denied
[06:13] <J-Man5> kitche: i'm pretty sure my tablet has a wacom.  hp even has certified this tablet for linux with suse and redhat
[06:13] <J-Man5> kitche: it's a tc4400
[06:13] <kitche> J-Man5: then just install ubuntu and your good to go
[06:13] <J-Man5> thanks
[06:13] <J-Man5> though i did do a complete image backup first
[06:14] <Ostebaronen> hmm
[06:14] <Ostebaronen> Hello ppl... i've got a little problem... I've assigned some of my Fn-keys on my laptop to turn up/down the sound. But when using them it turns up/down for the microphone not Master
[06:14] <Lbawinowns> What music media player should I use, obviously the included one in ubuntu doesnt have the codecs or whatever it is
[06:14] <park13> i need some help with installing a ubuntu.  I have 3 150gig hard drive and I want all 3 drives to appears has one .  Can someone please help?
[06:14] <HymnToLife> Lbawinowns, install the codecs, then
[06:15] <Lbawinowns> I heard there is no codecs for linux
[06:15] <Ostebaronen> ok just ignore me
[06:15] <HymnToLife> !codecs | Lbawinowns
[06:15] <HymnToLife> ubotu, ping
[06:15] <Panzer_> park
[06:15] <Panzer_> park13:  research lvm
[06:15] <ubotu> Lbawinowns: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:15] <ubotu> pong
[06:15] <HymnToLife> Lbawinowns, you were told wrong then
[06:15] <Lbawinowns> OK ;)
[06:15] <HymnToLife> yes, there are codecs, it is impossible to decode anything without a decoder :)
[06:16] <Derek_Russo> Can anyone help me with this strange DVD playback issue?  When I try to play a dvd back, it works fine, but every few minutes the screen goes black for a few seconds and then turns back on on its own
[06:16] <sipior> Derek_Russo: screensaver?
[06:17] <kitche> Derek_Russo: that is the power save mode
[06:17] <Derek_Russo> kitche: I don't think it's powersave mode, I turned all those things off
[06:17] <Derek_Russo> kitche: and the screen comes back on without me touching anything
[06:17] <sipior> Derek_Russo: this a laptop or desktop?
[06:17] <kitche> Derek_Russo: your point my windows machien does the same thing without me touching anything
[06:17] <Derek_Russo> sipior: desktop
[06:18] <zebrabast> I'm having load issues on a newly installed ubuntu 6 64, its eating into swap and running really slowly, dual core opteron + 1gig of ram, a top ordered by memory shows mysql top (with only 5% usage and 51M res) and a few other processes (all < 2%mem) -
[06:18] <Derek_Russo> kitche: well I turned al the powersave stuff off
[06:18] <iMilad> Does anybody know a way for converting XViD files to DivX one using linux?
[06:18] <Pici> iMilad: try mencoder
[06:18] <Morrowyn> ffmpeg?
[06:18] <iMilad> Pici: How should i use Mencoder?
[06:18] <sipior> Derek_Russo: for shits and grins, make sure that gnome-screensaver isn't running, and kill it if it is
[06:19] <Pici> iMilad: Check the man page, I dont know the switches off the top of my head.
[06:19] <Derek_Russo> sipior: how do I check for that?
[06:19] <frank_b> is it worth using some sort of RAID with two hard drives in linux?
[06:19] <zaphands> Is it possible to install ubuntu with WindowMaker, ROX and without Gnome?
[06:19] <sipior> Derek_Russo: ps aux | grep screensaver should do it
[06:20] <iMilad> tx Pici
[06:20] <zaphands> using the alternate cd^?
[06:20] <anhdepyeu> I'll try again here... I'm trying to 'apt-get upgrade' feisty-beta, but getting 'Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb  403 Forbidden [IP: X.X.X.X 80] ', which is strange because the X.X.X.X in the error message is an IP address (not mine), which is in UK (I am in US).  Anyone know anything about this? Almost like I'm getting proxied throu
[06:20] <iMilad> is there any special channel for Multimedia stuff?
[06:20] <sipior> anhdepyeu: see the topic for #ubuntu+1
[06:20] <etcytal> I, im get a problem on ES sourcelist: Imposible obtener http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[06:21] <sipior> etcytal: see the topic for #ubuntu+1
[06:21] <jair> HymnToLife: I see
[06:21] <anhdepyeu> sipior: got it, thanks.
[06:22] <jair> HymnToLife: so i will have to read the man pages make sure I understand what will do
[06:22] <HymnToLife> jair, yes :)
[06:22] <jair> HymnToLife: but just for curiosity, if I want to remove it also the modem one which was configured before what do i need to do on ubuntu?
[06:22] <etcytal> thx
[06:22] <HymnToLife> jair, how is it called ?
[06:22] <Lbawinowns> Man, that guide about restricted formats is strange, it says to click a package whcihh I don't find.
[06:23] <HymnToLife> Lbawinowns, you maybe don't have the correct repos enabled
[06:23] <HymnToLife> what is the package tou're looking for ?
[06:23] <HymnToLife> you*
[06:23] <Lbawinowns> "Ubuntu restricted extras"
[06:24] <Lbawinowns> or is that no package?
[06:24] <HymnToLife> that is no package :)
[06:24] <HymnToLife> package names are in one word, all letters lowercase
[06:24] <Lbawinowns> It's my English then :(, what do they mean in that guide?
[06:24] <AlexC_> Lbawinowns: ... are you running feisty? as that package is in Feisty only then
[06:24] <AlexC_> s/then/afaik
[06:25] <pgebarowski> heja
[06:25] <HymnToLife> Lbawinowns, maybe try a Swedish channel then
[06:25] <HymnToLife> !se
[06:25] <Lbawinowns> Oh i looked wrong
[06:25] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[06:25] <Derek_Russo> sipior: I'm kind of new to linux.  I just did that command and a couple things came up, I'm not sure how to kill them
[06:25] <Lbawinowns> yea but they never answer there :p
[06:26] <Lbawinowns> Thanks guys, I just looked at the wrong list
[06:26] <XiXaQ> Derek_Russo, "that" command?
[06:27] <eed> anyone tried to play cs16 in ubuntu, whows graphics
[06:27] <AndrewB> !help factroids
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help factroids - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <titch> !nvidia
[06:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:27] <jair> HymnToLife: no, I am just asking if I want to remove them ethx and ppp0
[06:28] <Kopfgeldjaeger> !fglxr|myself
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fglxr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <jair> HymnToLife: if I want to remove them and then restart the ubuntu system, I should be able to reconfigure it as well correct?
[06:28] <Kopfgeldjaeger> !fglrx|myself
[06:28] <ubotu> myself: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:28] <sipior> Derek_Russo: well, try running "killall gnome-screensaver", and see if that gets them
[06:28] <HymnToLife> jair, maybe, maybe not
[06:28] <Kopfgeldjaeger> !fglrx|I am stupid and want to tell you
[06:28] <ubotu> I am stupid and want to tell you: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:28] <AlexC_> !botabuse | Kopfgeldjaeger
[06:28] <ubotu> Kopfgeldjaeger: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:29] <Kopfgeldjaeger> sorry, i just wanted to test what it does ;)
[06:29] <Derek_Russo> sipior: it killed something, hopefully that worked
[06:29] <Hdaackda> hi, can any1 help me? I just installed ubuntu but its not showing up
[06:29] <Derek_Russo> Can I get help installing java?  I just tried the install from sun's website and it didn'ts eem to work
[06:30] <Derek_Russo> is there a way to get it from the package manager built in?
[06:30] <AlexC_> yes
[06:30] <thespore> I want  to delete my NTFS partition (hda3) and resize my root partition (hda1) using the space from the NTFS partition... how can i go about doing this?
[06:30] <AlexC_> thespore: install gparted
[06:30] <jair> HymnToLife: so how can I remove them then my friend? any idea?
[06:30] <Hdaackda> i.e. It ain't booting. I installed it in the E drive...
[06:30] <thespore> AlexC_, i did.. i can delete the NTFS but can't resize / since it's mounted obviously
[06:31] <Derek_Russo> AlexC_: were you saying yes to me about installing java from the packet manager?
[06:31] <AlexC_> Derek_Russo: yep, getting a link now
[06:31] <jair> HymnToLife: eventually will be important to know that as well.
[06:31] <Hdaackda> ?
[06:31] <sipior> thespore: you'll need to boot from cd and try from there. the ubuntu installer should work for this purpose
[06:31] <Derek_Russo> AlexC_: thanks a lot
[06:31] <AlexC_> Hdaackda: E, C, D etc are all Windows things
[06:31] <HymnToLife> jair, just unload the driver for it
[06:31] <thespore> ah, okay
[06:31] <achilles> Aloha all
[06:31] <jair> there is a configurator manager for ubuntu? one that helps to configure new hardware?
[06:32] <jair> hmmm
[06:32] <achilles> can anybody help me with Kbfx
[06:32] <Hdaackda> AlexC_: i know.. but i choose to install it where it found a continous free space..
[06:32] <ubuntu_> do you know where can I find GTA San Andreas for fast download
[06:32] <ubuntu_> *?
[06:32] <HymnToLife> jair, no, who neets that ?
[06:32] <achilles> i installed it properly but how to apply themes to it
[06:32] <HymnToLife> needs*
[06:32] <sipior> ubuntu_: why are you still here?
[06:32] <achilles> even after
[06:32] <AlexC_> ubuntu_:  don't do warez.
[06:32] <Hdaackda> it did install it. but after i rebooted... windows came up... no ubuntu menu
[06:32] <achilles> installing the theme
[06:32] <jair> HymnToLife: that is a very vage answer, I will have to check on google, but thank you very much for your time and help
[06:32] <Agrajag> ubuntu_: you can buy it for about 20 dollars at a store, which is usually pretty fast
[06:32] <achilles> the menu doesnt change
[06:32] <Pici> !piracy | ubuntu_
[06:32] <ubotu> ubuntu_: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[06:32] <ubuntu_> ok
[06:32] <achilles> anybody guide me on kbfx
[06:32] <Demu> ola :D
[06:33] <AlexC_> Derek_Russo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java?highlight=%28java%29
[06:33] <achilles> hey Demu
[06:33] <Derek_Russo> AlexC_: thanks a lot
[06:33] <achilles> AlexC_: you have any idea about kbfx
[06:33] <titch> linux-image-amd64-k8 ... what does K8 stand for?
[06:33] <Hdaackda> alexC_: umm, can u help me out?
[06:33] <Qwell[] > us.archive is roundrobin, right?  I need to ignore this server - because it's b0rked
[06:33] <AlexC_> no, I don't sorry - but I bet a lot of people in here do ... or try #kubuntu as that is KDE
[06:33] <achilles> the theme doesnt change the menu
[06:34] <Qwell[] > titch: newer amd processors..  like k6, k7, etc
[06:34] <achilles> ahh ok thanks AlexC_
[06:34] <titch> i have an AMD x64 dual core so dont know which i should get
[06:34] <mzanfardino> I'm searching high and low for help with creating personal dvd's using linux tools.  I am using avidemux to create mpg files from mp4 files.  I'm using kmediafactory to build the dvd menus (chapter and verse) and I'm using k3b to burn.  However, when I attempt to play on my home dvd player, I get the message that the region code is wrong.  I can't find anything in any of the applications mentioned that would allow me to
[06:34] <mzanfardino> set my region code.  Any ideas?
[06:34] <Pici> Qwell[] : Are you running feisty?
[06:34] <Qwell[] > Pici: I am
[06:34] <AlexC_> Hdaackda: it seems like Grub did not install, you could try re-install Ubuntu
[06:34] <Pici> Qwell[] : See the topic in #ubuntu+1
[06:34] <AlexC_> Qwell[] : things will break, remember
[06:34] <Qwell[] > meh
[06:34] <ms_> Is there a boot cd that contains the et131x driver?
[06:34] <sipior> Qwell[] : and in fact, they have broken :)
[06:34] <AlexC_> yes, today even!
[06:34] <Qwell[] > AlexC_: no more so than edgy
[06:34] <titch> would the dual core x64 AMD be k8 or just generic ?
[06:35] <Hdaackda> alexC_: ok. reinstalling should solve the prob? does it matter which partition i install it (n make it linux partition(
[06:35] <AlexC_> Qwell[] : no, it really will break. Todays updates mean  nearly everyone could not boot into the OS
[06:35] <Derek_Russo> Next question - is there any way for me to access files that are on my windows partition?
[06:35] <AlexC_> !ntfs | Derek_Russo
[06:35] <AlexC_> Hdaackda: yes, should be fine
[06:35] <ubotu> Derek_Russo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:35] <AlexC_> oo, Ubotu is slow!
[06:35] <AlexC_> there he is,
[06:35] <Derek_Russo> !ntfs
[06:36] <Pici> Derek_Russo: see ubotu's message above.
[06:36] <titch> would the dual core x64 AMD be k8 or just generic ?
[06:36] <Qwell[] > AlexC_: yeah, like I said - no more so than edgy
[06:36] <Derek_Russo> AlexC: thanks
[06:36] <Kopfgeldjaeger> titch, generic
[06:36] <titch> thanks
[06:36] <Organizm> #python
[06:36] <AlexC_> Qwell[] : I've never had an Edgy kernel update mean I can't boot into Ubuntu =) If your new to Ubuntu/linux I highly suggest waiting until final release
[06:36] <Qwell[] > not just the kernel
[06:36] <Qwell[] > gnome, in particular
[06:36] <Qwell[] > that breaks monthly in edgy
[06:37] <Qwell[] > whoever maintains those packages obviously doesn't use nvidia or xinerama
[06:37] <sumigamer> hey guys i have a question
[06:38] <mc44> Qwell[] : are you using nvidia from an external repository?
[06:38] <asaup> can i install mettise for ubuntu ?
[06:38] <Qwell[] > mc44: nvidia.com
[06:38] <titch> on the synaptic package manage what does the boxes that are green mean?
[06:38] <roland_> any linux trivia bot / channel existin on freenode?
[06:38] <mc44> Qwell[] : if you use the drivers from the ubuntu repos it wouldnt break as much
[06:38] <Qwell[] > mc44: that's *why* I switched to the nvidia.com ones :)
[06:39] <Qwell[] > it now breaks...less
[06:39] <mc44> :p
[06:39] <Qwell[] > besides, I use a custom vanilla kernel
[06:39] <sumigamer> can you tell me the difference between XGL and AIGLX??
[06:39] <Qwell[] > well, vanilla kernel with a custom config that is, obviously
[06:39] <mc44> Qwell[] : ah well then, your fault innit :)
[06:39] <AlexC_> Qwell[] : so your complaing that it breaks when you use a custom kernel, non-ubuntu package nVidia drivers ...?
[06:39] <Qwell[] > AlexC_: correct
[06:39] <msaner> im looking to update my ldap suffix (ex: dc=domain1, dc=domain2)
[06:40] <asaup> can i install mettise for ubuntu ?
[06:40] <AlexC_> Qwell[] : that makes no sense.
[06:40] <Qwell[] > it's not like the ubuntu folks recompile it
[06:40] <AlexC_> !repeat | asaup
[06:40] <Qwell[] > it's...a binary driver
[06:40] <shooters> !aiglx | sumigamer
[06:40] <msaner> i ran a slapcat and pushed all the files to an ldif and then changed the domain and slapd.conf and did a slap add on that same file
[06:40] <ubotu> asaup: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:40] <ubotu> sumigamer: AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[06:40] <msaner> is the data from the old domain still there?
[06:40] <sumigamer> ubotu, then what is XGL??
[06:40] <AlexC_> ubotu: is a bot.
[06:40] <alextrial91> Salut
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <shooters> !xgl | sumigamer
[06:41] <ubotu> sumigamer: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:41] <sipior> AlexC_: shhh! lets see where this goes...
[06:41] <sumigamer> thanks a lot. I will see if that answers my query..
[06:41] <msaner> i guess a better question is did i duplication the data with some changeds or did i replace it
[06:41] <ROnewbie> Sound problem in Edgy.  I have an Intel 82801DB sound card on a Gateway 3040GZ, and despite being installed and loaded, there's no sound coming out of it. Help, please.
[06:42] <Qwell[] > ROnewbie: I asked that same question the other, and I was told "just wait, feisty isn't released yet"...even though it happens in edgy too :)
[06:42] <Qwell[] > other day*
[06:42] <jair> HymnToLife: I installed the restricted modules and the machine boots with x disable, it says that have to be reconfigured and also the ethernet cards are not detected anymore :(
[06:42] <ROnewbie> Qwell[] : I installed feisty beta, still nothing.
[06:42] <Qwell[] > ROnewbie: yeah, it's broken in both
[06:42] <AlexC_> Qwell[] : I really can't see why your complanning, your running a custom kernel and moan when things break, blaming the package maintainers? nice one
[06:43] <ROnewbie> Qwell[] : you also have a gateway ?
[06:43] <Qwell[] > ROnewbie: no, HP, but same sound card
[06:43] <Kopfgeldjaeger> when will the ubuntustudio-theme package to into the feisty-repo?
[06:43] <AlexC_> #ubuntu+1 Kopfgeldjaeger
[06:43] <Kopfgeldjaeger> AlexC_: sure? :-( doesnt sound well
[06:43] <Qwell[] > AlexC_: so, it's either kernel panic a lot, or gnome being hosed...
[06:44] <msaner> never mind it is all still ther
[06:44] <AlexC_> Kopfgeldjaeger: huh?
[06:44] <Kopfgeldjaeger> AlexC_: maybe doesn't sound >good< ?^^
[06:45] <AlexC_> Kopfgeldjaeger: ... I didn't say maybe,
[06:46] <Organizm> i'm trying to transcode an audio format .SAT.  Has anyone ever heard of that?  I need to know if it's encrypted or if i just need to get new codecs.
[06:47] <ROnewbie> vreun roman pe aici ?
[06:47] <roland_> aici
[06:47] <roland_> <-- .ro
[06:48] <retard-ed> ok i booted the live cd just to see if it works (the basics to continue using it . )
[06:48] <ROnewbie> roland_: salut; hai pe private, n-ar fi politicos sa vb in romana aici
[06:48] <ROnewbie> ai putin timp ?
[06:48] <roland_> ok
[06:48] <roland_> da
[06:49] <retard-ed> my wireless chip gets recognised . and i tried putting in the network name and "passkey" but it doesnt conenct
[06:49] <whoever> I have a Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless card on Edgy.  It was hard to get working.  Anyone know if it will work on Feisty if I upgrade?
[06:51] <Derek_Russo> after installing java, do I have to reset for it to owrk?
[06:51] <sipior> Derek_Russo: you'd have to restart your browser, if that's what you mean
[06:51] <castags> can someone help me with an update problem?
[06:52] <sipior> castags: please don't say you can't download a kernel package...
[06:52] <castags> yes
[06:52] <shooters> !breakage
[06:52] <ubotu> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/82314 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106063  - A fix will be published When It's Ready
[06:52] <Kopfgeldjaeger> AFAIK the 64-bit package is already uploaded (see launchpad)
[06:52] <Neil-> hi guys
[06:53] <Neil-> realplayer from repos failed for me, so i tried the .bin from real.com instead, its also buggy
[06:53] <sipior> cheers shooters, i must remember that bot command
[06:53] <lethal_> Could someone help me with a 3d/nVidia problem, please?
[06:53] <Neil-> how can I remove it now? its added system menu shortcuts, symlinks, etc
[06:53] <Neil-> noone? Damn real :P
[06:54] <sub> hello, i recently installed ubuntu with beryl its all running smooth but for one thing. my mouse is locking up for a second or two from time to time... has anyone encountred a similar problem or prehaps as reasoable explenation for this behaviour?
[06:54] <Jeeves_Moss> can anyone give me a hand with some file premission issues?
[06:54] <titch> !xgl
[06:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:55] <sipior> sub: does the mouse lock up during a period of heavy disk-access?
[06:55] <binks_> anyone no nfs server at all
[06:55] <shooters> Jeeves_Moss: ask your question
[06:55] <sub> sipior: i think it has to do with network traffic
[06:55] <sipior> sub: why so?
[06:55] <Jeeves_Moss> shooters:  I chmod 777 the directory that I'm trying to move to a windows share, but it won't let me move stuff.  I'm trying to do it in shell.
[06:56] <Neil-> How can I remove realplayer which I tried to install using a .bin?
[06:56] <Neil-> No-one?
[06:56] <Jeeves_Moss> shooters:  I'm trying to back up my home directory from this server before I nuke it with a fresh install
[06:56] <sub> sipior: reciving messages /surfing the web seem to accellerate the rate of lockup times
[06:56] <sipior> sub: or maybe you just notice it more?
[06:56] <sub> maybe
[06:57] <Derek_Russo> my java install doesn't seem to have worked... I'm not sure what to do
[06:57] <ROnewbie> Qwell[] :  so let me get this straight  everyone has been telling you that Feisty should take care of this ?
[06:57] <shooters> Jeeves_Moss: do you have write access to the Windows share?
[06:57] <Qwell[] > ROnewbie: no
[06:57] <ROnewbie> Qwell[] :  - the audio, I mean ?
[06:57] <sipior> sub: hard to diagnose without more information, but you might try running the gnome system monitor applet if you don't already. see if the mouse lock up is tied to a spike in disk activity/cpu use &cet.
[06:57] <Qwell[] > ROnewbie: they said that since feisty was beta, it isn't a problem
[06:57] <ROnewbie> Qwell[] : huh ???????
[06:58] <mon^rch> hey, can I cable madem--> linux computer--> router--> other computers and have them pich pu the dedicated ip's from my isp?
[06:58] <Qwell[] > nevermind
[06:58] <Derek_Russo> is there a way I can verify my java install?
[06:58] <Jeeves_Moss> shooters:  yes.  I have admin rights on both boxes.  when I launch midnight commander, it shows the files in green with a "*" next to them
[06:58] <mon^rch> *pick up
[06:58] <sipior> Derek_Russo: you mean whether java applets work?
[06:58] <ROnewbie> Qwell[] : i'm not using feisty anyway, i'm on Edgy now, which is anything but beta.
[06:58] <shooters> Jeeves_Moss: and what's the error msg when you try to copy? Access denied?
[06:59] <Derek_Russo> sipior: I am pretty sure java applets don't woirk
[06:59] <sipior> Derek_Russo: i often use the following: http://www.bodo.com/javame.htm
[06:59] <netsrot> if I choose the amd 64 version of ubuntu I will get trouble compiling and running x86 programs?
[06:59] <Jeeves_Moss> shooters:  something like that.  I'll know that exact error in 2 mins when it tries to finish the file.
[06:59] <Qwell[] > netsrot: yes, things like wine don't work (easily)
[06:59] <ROnewbie> Qwell[] : plus have you googled this ? it's fascinating, at least a couple of people have solved this by muting/unmuting the external amplifier in alsamixer, which is really awkward for a software solution ...
[06:59] <Qwell[] > netsrot: in general, things work fine though
[06:59] <rambo3> netsrot, compiling ? do you know what compiling is
[06:59] <Pici> Qwell[] : ROnewbie : Did either of you file a bug for your issues?
[06:59] <shooters> Jeeves_Moss: what do you mean, when it tries to finish the file?
[06:59] <Qwell[] > Pici: I was told it was not a bug ;)
[07:00] <netsrot> rambo3: yes I used to run gentoo before, I have gotten lazy =)
[07:00] <retard-ed> yey i got the interweb :D
[07:00] <Jeeves_Moss> shooters:  I'd really like to transfer it directly from the shell on the sever becasue it's faster.  And I'm trying to move the file off of the server.  it appiers to copy the file fine, but it won't remove the file.
[07:00] <Derek_Russo> sipior: that site didn't work
[07:00] <Derek_Russo> sipior: does that mean java didn't install?
[07:00] <ROnewbie> pici: same here
[07:00] <sipior> Derek_Russo: well, it means the java plugin isn't installed
[07:00] <Qwell[] > Pici: I stopped caring - I'm just relaying the information I was given
[07:00] <shooters> Jeeves_Moss: so you want to remove the file from your local disk?
[07:00] <sub> sipior: im taking a moment gather more background info.
[07:01] <matthew1429> what does it mean when nautilus gives me this error in the terminal?  WARNING **: destroyed file has call_when_ready pending
[07:01] <Derek_Russo> sipior: how do I install the java plugin?  I thought I just did
[07:01] <ROnewbie> Pici: i did not, I'm going nuts for two weeks now
[07:01] <sipior> Derek_Russo: install sun-java6-plugin
[07:01] <Jeeves_Moss> shooters:  I want to move all the files in the home directory to the remote M$ share.  and the error that I get is "cannot chown target file ..., operation not premitted
[07:01] <Derek_Russo> sipior: alright, let me give it a try
[07:01] <ROnewbie> !sound | ronewbie
[07:01] <rambo3> netsrot, that doesn't say much ,  Gentoo is just as easy as any other distro
[07:02] <sipior> Derek_Russo: also remember to restart your browser afterwards
[07:02] <shooters> Jeeves_Moss: but the files are copied to the server, you just can't remove them locally, right?
[07:02] <lethal_> Could someone help me with a 3d acceleration/nVidia issue?
[07:02] <Derek_Russo> sipior: alright
[07:02] <matthew1429> what does it mean when nautilus gives me this error in the terminal?  WARNING **: destroyed file has call_when_ready pending
[07:02] <Jeeves_Moss> shooters:  I think that's the case.
[07:03] <netsrot> rambo3: ok, but I was running gentoo 64bit before and tried running an 32bit environment inside it and it was a lot of trouble setting it up straight.
[07:03] <Derek_Russo> sipior: is it possile that just closing the browser isn't enough?  Do I have to kill it?
[07:03] <matthew1429> netsplit!
[07:03] <sipior> Derek_Russo: shouldn't have to, no
[07:03] <Derek_Russo> sipior: ok, thanks
[07:03] <ROnewbie> pici: any suggestions ?
[07:03] <sipior> Derek_Russo: also, try entering the following url when you install the plugin: "about:plugins". see if the java plugin is listed
[07:04] <Derek_Russo> sipior: ok, thanks
[07:04] <netsrot> rambo3: a lot of programs I run usually only release the source code so I have to compile them and they only support 32bit.
[07:04] <shooters> Jeeves_Moss: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2005-June/001140.html
[07:04] <Jeeves_Moss> shooters:  it looks like the files get copied, but I'd like to just have it moved properly so I can make sure that I don't miss anything
[07:04] <matthew1429> what does it mean when nautilus gives me this error in the terminal?  WARNING **: destroyed file has call_when_ready pending
[07:04] <Pici> ROnewbie: Qwell[]  : Well, there does seem to be a bug filed for that card, I suggest subscribing to it and seeing where it goes:  [#ubuntu]  ROnewbie: Qwell[]  : Well, there does seem to be a bug filed for that card,
[07:04] <Pici> ROnewbie: Qwell[] : oops, wrote paste: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/93906
[07:04] <Qwell[] > Pici: like I said - I stopped caring..  I use a vanilla kernel now
[07:05] <JacktheHomeless> Hey guys, im looking for an application. I need an application where I can input my hours at work, my pay rate, the taxes i pay, and it will calculate what i'll get on pay day.
[07:05] <Neil-> shared a folder using system>admin>shared folders, but the windows pc gets a login box
[07:05] <Neil-> what should I enter? logging in as myself fails
[07:05] <Qwell[] > JacktheHomeless: gnumeric?  maybe?
[07:05] <shooters> Jeeves_Moss: are you trying to copy the files as root, that might be the problem....
[07:05] <Pici> Neil-: You need to create a samba user for your user
[07:05] <Jeeves_Moss> shooters:  any ideas?
[07:05] <Pici> Neil-: `sudo smbpasswd -a youruser`
[07:06] <ROnewbie> Qwell[] :  in brief, for dummies: what's a vanilla kernel and did it help ?
[07:06] <JacktheHomeless> qwell[] : gnumeric? ill look into it. I got eqonomize which is great for tracking a budget, but i need the payrate tracker thing as well
[07:06] <sethk> JacktheHomeless, I had written an app like that many years ago, but it's too out of date.  you can just use a spreadsheet
[07:06] <sub> sipior the filesys problem you were on about..  is it the write or read task that makes it hang up
[07:06] <Qwell[] > ROnewbie: If you don't know what it is - you can't do it.  But yes, it helped
[07:06] <Neil-> Pici: Is there a way to make a user for samba only?
[07:06] <sipior> sub: either would do, i expect
[07:06] <Neil-> Ie no home folder or anything, just about to view shared stuff
[07:06] <Qwell[] > ROnewbie: BUT, if you use a vanilla kernel, you get flamed here when unrelated things break :)
[07:07] <shooters> Jeeves_Moss: try mounting the samba directory as a normal user...
[07:07] <matthew1429> what does it mean when nautilus gives me this error in the terminal?  WARNING **: destroyed file has call_when_ready pending
[07:07] <Pici> Neil-: You'd have to look at the user administration thing, I dont know off the top of my head.
[07:07] <ROnewbie> Qwell[] :  neeeaaat. :-/
[07:07] <JacktheHomeless> sethk: Eh i hate using spreadsheets lol. Plus i want to be able to convert the data in to graphs, as well as track everything over weeks, months or even years.
[07:07] <Jeeves_Moss> shooters:  I tried that as well.  LOL
[07:07] <Neil-> ok
[07:07] <Neil-> thanks :)
[07:07] <lethal_> Could someone help me with a 3d acceleration/nVidia issue?
[07:07] <sethk> JacktheHomeless, maybe I'll update my program
[07:07] <netsrot> anyhow, if I run x86 ubuntu on my amd 64 x2, will it be able to use both cores?
[07:07] <sipior> what;s yer prob, lethal_ ?
[07:08] <sub> sipior, ill walk with that theory then. is it anything i can do about it?
[07:08] <JacktheHomeless> sethk: if you want, i'd be willing to give a hand in helping you update it and getting it running
[07:08] <sethk> JacktheHomeless, ok, drop me an email at seth@cql.com
[07:08] <lethal_> sipior: well compiz seems to be going slowly, cedega fails at 3d acceleration and no games work under it
[07:08] <shooters> Jeeves_Moss: is the Samba drive FAT?
[07:08] <sipior> sub: yes, you can play with hdparm and tune your disks. slightly dangerous though, read the man page first
[07:08] <lethal_> sipior: (yes, compiz isn't running when I'm trying to play games)
[07:08] <Jeeves_Moss> shooters:  the server is Samba, and the M$ box is NTFS.
[07:08] <sub> allright, thanks
[07:09] <sipior> lethal_: this under edgy?
[07:09] <JacktheHomeless> sethk: ok will do
[07:09] <Lbawinowns> Can you please repost that link with how to get codecs?
[07:09] <lethal_> sipior: yeah, with the official nVidia drivers
[07:09] <Pici> !codecs | Lbawinowns
[07:09] <ubotu> Lbawinowns: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:09] <Lbawinowns> Thanks
[07:10] <sipior> lethal_: not sure about cedega's 3d acceleration. but do any native 3d linux games work?
[07:10] <lethal_> sipior: It would have been a good idea to test that first, wouldn't it... :/
[07:11] <m3741> hey everyone. does anybody have experience setting up an apache server with php and webdav?
[07:11] <sipior> lethal_: well, helps to isolate where the problem lies
[07:11] <rambo3> what is webdav?
[07:11] <rambo3> m3741, ask ubotu about lamp
[07:12] <shooters> Jeeves_Moss: I really don't know... there isn't anything helpful on google about this... and I can't figure out the problem... sorry...
[07:12] <m3741> rambo3: it allows write access to a remote apache server
[07:13] <rambo3> m3741, debian-adminstrators has is for shure . and apache server on ubuntu
[07:13] <rambo3> !lamp | m3741
[07:13] <ubotu> m3741: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:13] <m3741> rambo3: i have one set up but i'm having a specific problem. when i open a file using webdav, the php parser parses the php, not letting me see the code
[07:13] <lethal_> sipior: billard-gl seems to run fine
[07:14] <Derek_Russo> Java works now, thanks
[07:14] <sipior> lethal_: so cedega is likely the culprit
[07:15] <sipior> lethal_: not sure how they configure 3d acceleration, i'm afraid
[07:15] <Derek_Russo> ubuntu is becoming more and more full featured for me
[07:15] <lethal_> sipior: Well, I'd use wine, but it's a 1B package :/
[07:15] <netsrot> Hi, if I run x86 ubuntu on my amd 64 x2, will it be able to use both cores?
[07:15] <Derek_Russo> next step -getting wow to work here
[07:15] <mjr> netsrot, yes
[07:15] <sipior> lethal_: i understand :)
[07:16] <roland_> !paste | ROnewbie
[07:16] <ubotu> ROnewbie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:16] <Lbawinowns> Man you guys are really so nice :), keep the spirit :)
[07:17] <bjohan> does anyone know why cryptoloops in ubuntu appear to be "incompatible" with other distros?
[07:17] <roland_> !paste | ROnewbie
[07:17] <ubotu> ROnewbie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:17] <psycho78> can orca read a text document or text from a a webpage displayed with firefox?
[07:18] <xtknight> is there a way i can make one monitor one workspace and the other, another workspace?
[07:18] <xtknight> so for example Send to Workspace 2 sends the window to monitor 2
[07:18] <xtknight> (separate X screens)
[07:18] <HorizonXP> do you have an NVidia card?
[07:18] <xtknight> yea
[07:18] <HorizonXP> there should be a setting in Nvidia-settings to do that
[07:18] <HorizonXP> but if u get it to work, kudos
[07:19] <xtknight> there are separate X screens which i have working now
[07:19] <xtknight> although i'm not sure how to make them like workspaces
[07:19] <HorizonXP> ohhh i see...
[07:19] <xtknight> the two monitors are different sizes and resolutions (though close) so it's hard to use span mode
[07:19] <HorizonXP> can't help u there...
[07:19] <HorizonXP> how'd u get separate X Screens working?
[07:19] <xtknight> under 'sudo nvidia-settings'
[07:20] <HorizonXP> i just want it to be able to run DVDs on one screen, while doing work on another
[07:20] <HorizonXP> does it work like that?
[07:20] <xtknight> sure i think so
[07:20] <xtknight> although you may only be able to play dvds on a primary display depending on the video output driver you use
[07:20] <HorizonXP> can i drag between screens?
[07:20] <sethk> HorizonXP, it can be set up that way
[07:20] <xtknight> with span mode, yeah
[07:20] <xtknight> oh man the next thing i should try is beryl :D
[07:20] <sethk> HorizonXP, you can set it up as two independent screens, or one large virtual screen
[07:20] <lethal_> Does anyone know what's up with wine in the universal or winehq repos?
[07:20] <Q3Man> Is there a config file somewhere where I can turn off console blanking? I know I can do it with setterm, but I'd like to do it on startup (and without the ugliness of putting it in rc.local or something)
[07:20] <xtknight> Xinerama just crashes though.
[07:20] <sethk> HorizonXP, if you set it up as independent, then of course you won't be able to drag from one to the other
[07:21] <ROnewbie> !paste | ronewbie
[07:21] <sethk> Q3Man, the power save settings are, I believe, where blanking is enabled or not enabled
[07:21] <HorizonXP> sethtk, yeah, i got it working under span mode... but my screens are different resolutions, so it doesn't work wel
[07:21] <xtknight> same
[07:21] <sethk> xtknight, xinerama works well for me.  anything more specific?
[07:21] <ROnewbie> !paste | ronewbie
[07:21] <xtknight> sethk, when i enable it (Xinerama "1")  my X session lasts <10 seconds.
[07:21] <sethk> HorizonXP, yes, that's annoying.  I bought another screen to get rid of the problem.  Then I bought one wide screen to _really_ get rid of the problem.
[07:22] <sethk> xtknight, any useful information in the X log?
[07:22] <netsrot> is there any known game that runs a lot faster on 64bit ubuntu?
[07:22] <xtknight> 20.1" 1680x1050 and a 19" 1280x1024 here
[07:22] <xtknight> sethk, hrm one moment
[07:22] <roland_> anyone has any idea if and when will Adobe bastards release a acrobat reader 8 for linux ? reader 8 is such a wonder compared to 7..
[07:22] <gnomefreak> roland_: please watch your language
[07:23] <roland_> im not allowed to spell bastard
[07:23] <roland_> heh
[07:23] <Lbawinowns> Nope your not :p
[07:23] <pengua1> how do I compile Battle for Wesnoth for xubuntu?
[07:23] <HorizonXP> but what if you actually are a bastard?
[07:23] <roland_> but they are ! they didnt release a solaris x86 acrobat reader in years!
[07:23] <HorizonXP> it's a legitimate word
[07:23] <PriceChild> !ohmy
[07:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:24] <HorizonXP> anyway
[07:24] <pengua1> anyone?
[07:24] <HorizonXP> so this screens thing stinks... cuz i'm on a widescreen laptop, so no way i can get dual screens to work properly eh?
[07:24] <titch> !xgl
[07:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:25] <cyclops> anyone have recommendations on HTML editors / site managers?
[07:25] <roland_> hey watch your language, you cant spell stink
[07:25] <pengua1> roland, how old are you?
[07:25] <sethk> cyclops, quanta
[07:25] <Gorbatjov> Does anyone know what the big difference between Ubuntu and Gentoo is?
[07:25] <cyclops> quanta...  is it in the repository?
[07:25] <roland_> pengua1: i guess im younger than you but old enough
[07:25] <ScreaminIk1> how do i choose which java i use?
[07:25] <pengua1> old enough to know better?
[07:25] <roland_> right
[07:25] <roland_> exactly
[07:25] <xtknight> hrm update-alternatives?
[07:25] <pengua1> you seem about 13.
[07:25] <xtknight> !coc
[07:25] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:26] <odder> is anybody here responsible for the Feisty Beta repositories? I got an error message when trying to install the new linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic: W: Can't download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_amd64.deb 403 Forbidden [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[07:26] <sethk> cyclops, quanta is in the repos, yes
[07:26] <cyclops> thanks :)
[07:26] <varka> ScreaminIk1: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:26] <Lbawinowns> So, what is the recommended program if I used Delphi pascal compiler before when I use ubuntu?
[07:26] <roland_> and you seem your iq is so low from the first words you say
[07:26] <odder> I guess is something wrong with the server
[07:26] <Lbawinowns> careful roland_
[07:26] <ScreaminIk1> thx, varka
[07:26] <roland_> what a dull assumption, pengua1
[07:26] <PriceChild> odder, nothing wrong, #ubuntu+1 and read the topic
[07:26] <pengua1> assumption?
[07:26] <odder> #ubuntu+1
[07:26] <xtknight> sethk, here's the logs http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15420
[07:26] <odder> sorry :/
[07:27] <PriceChild> odder, /join #ubuntu+1
[07:27] <PriceChild> odder, no problem :)
[07:27] <pengua1> just the way you're reacting, sorry.
[07:27] <PriceChild> roland_, pengua1 lets move on please :)
[07:27] <odder> PriceChild: thanks
[07:27] <Lbawinowns> Wisely said, anyway, noone know about any pascal compilers?
[07:27] <pengua1> anyway, how on earth do I compile battle for wesnoth/get an updated version, cause the current ubuntu version is way out of date.
[07:27] <xtknight> sethk, it thinks my secondary lcd hooked up via vga (no dvi cable atm) is a crt, but i dont think that's the problem
[07:27] <whoever> Anyone  know if I will have a problem with Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless on Feisty
[07:28] <roland_> pengua1 : you cant be that smart either, im sure
[07:28] <kitche> pengua1: go download it from theri website
[07:29] <pengua1> I'm not, otherwise presumably I would actually know how to compile something.
[07:29] <pengua1> that version will work?
[07:29] <roland_> pengua1: well, i know  how to compile something .. maybe im not 13 as your dull assumption says
[07:29] <pengua1> if so, great.
[07:29] <aliasxerog> ok yoyoyoyo
[07:29] <roland_> you dont learn that at 13
[07:29] <big_bang14> are there any good visual code editors for linux?
[07:30] <PriceChild> !offtopic > roland_ (see the pm from ubotu)
[07:30] <xtknight> big_bang14, geany is decent
[07:30] <ulisse> 'lo tribe!
[07:30] <pengua1> roland, how do you compile?
[07:30] <savetheWorld> big_bang14: vim, vi emacs
[07:30] <xtknight> !compile
[07:30] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:31] <roland_> rtfm
[07:31] <big_bang14> xtknight: do u use it?
[07:31] <xtknight> !rtfm
[07:31] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:31] <PriceChild> !rtfm > roland_
[07:31] <ulisse> is it me, or someone has set wrong permissions on this?
[07:31] <ulisse> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb
[07:31] <Lbawinowns> what does rt fm means?
[07:31] <roland_> yea  i forgot.. ubuntu is too nubcake-friendly
[07:31] <roland_> sry
[07:31] <davisc> Lbawinowns: Read the f**king manual
[07:31] <xtknight> big_bang14, not much
[07:32] <xtknight> roland_, or we just don't like trolls like yourself who should often take their own advice and read the fine CoC
[07:32] <Katari> Small question... I used dapper until my HD crashed recently, now I'm waiting for feisty final before reinstalling. Does FF work better with a 2-drive dualboot setup? I had a lot of trouble with that on dapper
[07:32] <Lbawinowns> Aha ok, first I thought u was reffering me to do it lol ;)
[07:32] <pengua1> thanks, bye
[07:32] <aliasxerog> i give play by play
[07:32] <sethk> Katari, I haven't seen problems with either version with two drive dual boot.  what exactly did you see?
[07:33] <aliasxerog> slideshow going
[07:33] <rambo3> Katari, what
[07:33] <roland_> xtknight, i wasnt trolling , i was reacting to pengua1 who thinks hes incredibly smart
[07:33] <speedsix> Hi, can anyone help with really bizarre NFS problem?
[07:33] <roland_> good that he left
[07:33] <aliasxerog> they were ice slides
[07:33] <Katari> sethk: freezing at "mounting root filesystems" while installing (got around that by reformatting) and then manually having to edit grub every time a kernel updates, because it assumed ubuntu was installed on hard drive 1
[07:33] <spyderpop_> how do i use vigr to edit my /etc/group file? I've got it open but I don't know how to edit it, haha.
[07:34] <Katari> I had ubuntu installed on drive 2, windows on drive 1, and there just were no options for selecting whihc to drive to use (for example fedora had such an option)
[07:34] <sethk> Katari, I don't know about the manually editing part, because I always do my own editing of the grub configuration (I don't trust the automation to do it correctly).
[07:34] <Katari> I thought it was odd when I installed dapper, was just wondering if that's in the past now with feisty, it was annoying to have to edit it manually
[07:34] <aliasxerog> democracy tv is not working on my comp
[07:34] <Xteven> hi
[07:34] <Xteven> how does beagle work in ubuntu ?
[07:35] <prosikito> hello
[07:35] <sethk> Katari, if grub is installed on primary master, the grub configuration tells it where ubuntu is (it would probably be (1,0) meaning first partition on the second drive
[07:35] <speedsix> ok the problem is, I'm mounting the root of my server as /mnt/mythtv on my desktop, everything looks to be fine except one of the folders /mnt/mythtv/myth is empty, when it shouldn't be??
[07:35] <xtknight> aliasxerog, do you have all the latest updates?
[07:35] <Xteven> I installed it, but I can't find any beagle search in the menu
[07:35] <sethk> Katari, so the functionality is ok.  the editing, I'm not sure about.
[07:35] <aliasxerog> yes
[07:35] <big_bang14> are there any good visual code editors for linux that use flow?
[07:35] <xtknight> aliasxerog, feisty or edgy?
[07:35] <aliasxerog> edgy
[07:35] <xtknight> there was a bug on feisty a while ago that prevented democracy from working
[07:35] <prosikito> does anyone know how can I enable ctrl-c at boot time, sometimes my syslogd gets stuck and I need to boot from another partition to solve the problem, I'd like to be able to kill it with ctrl-c
[07:35] <frank_b> how do I add a new hard drive, already formated, to my home partition?
[07:35] <Katari> sethk: yea, the functionality is ok, but like you said, I always have to manually edit the grub config every time there is a kernel update, it was not a showstopper, just annoying
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> frank_b: You'd have to modify !fstab to add a mount point.  When you say add, do you mean you want to replace the /home portion currently on the first drive, or simply enlarge it by having part of /home on the new drive and part on the old?
[07:36] <Katari> well, that was a minor thing, but the bigger thing was that during install, it would hang on my setup for some reason, I read that other people had trouble with it in the forums, but that was with dapper, so I was just wondering if anyone knows if that's been fixed
[07:37] <frank_b> tonyyarusso, second situation
[07:37] <big_bang14> are there any good visual code editors for linux that use flow?
[07:37] <speedsix> ok the problem is, I'm mounting the root of my server as /mnt/mythtv on my desktop, everything looks to be fine except one of the folders /mnt/mythtv/myth is empty, when it shouldn't be??
[07:37] <frank_b> tonyyarusso, enlarge it
[07:37] <Katari> it froze at "mounting root filesystems", something to do with my hard drive setup that it didn't like
[07:37] <BirdofPrey> hi, i having problems with the ubuntu iso on a G3 ibook, can anyone help?
[07:37] <xtknight> !anyone
[07:37] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:37] <PriceChild> Katari, is this feisty?
[07:37] <Katari> PriceChild: that was back in dapper
[07:37] <PriceChild> Katari, ah k nm :)
[07:37] <Katari> was just wondering if that was a common issue or just mine, and if it's something that's probably better in feisty
[07:38] <BirdofPrey> well, im trying to boot it with the open firmware commands, but it cant seem to open \install\yaboot, on the alternate CD iso
[07:38] <andres> olaa alguien habla esol??
[07:38] <xtknight> !es
[07:38] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:38] <Katari> I had 2 huge problems installing dapper, one was the hard drive partitioning (which froze), the other was getting X working
[07:38] <speedsix> ok the problem is, I'm mounting the root of my server as /mnt/mythtv on my desktop, everything looks to be fine except one of the folders /mnt/mythtv/myth is empty, when it shouldn't be??
[07:38] <andres> ok gracias
[07:39] <Katari> if both of those will work with feisty final, then I'll be happy and be able to recommend ubuntu to lots of people
[07:39] <iamalex> anyone here who is good with some more technical stuff?
[07:39] <ro> hey guys
[07:39] <iamalex> trying to solve this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408477
[07:39] <ro> has anyone installed ubuntu on a dual partition with vista yet?
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> frank_b: One way would be to choose which users to put on each drive I would think, might need a separate partition for each user that way though.  Another would be to mount it somewhere completely random (/bigger_homes, or whatever), create /bigger_homes/$USER for each, and put a symlink of /home/$USER/extension for each user pointing to it.
[07:39] <xtknight> ro: yeah
[07:40] <ro> xtknight - was it straight fwd, or a pain in the butt?
[07:40] <xtknight> ro: straight forward just like xp dual boot
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> Katari: Things to note: Hard drive partitioning has always worked more reliably either with the most up-to-date GParted live CD or the Ubuntu Alternate install CD.
[07:40] <ro> ah really
[07:40] <ro> xtknight: hmm - but I think I have a recovery drive on the first partition of my laptop
[07:41] <ro> won't that affect where grub goes?
[07:41] <frank_b> tonyyarusso, hmm, so there's no way to a have your home partition divided in two drives? (besides RAID or whatever)
[07:41] <tabman> can I open a pdf file from the command line ?
[07:41] <xtknight> ro: yea, if it's the first hd
[07:41] <ro> xtknight: oh poo
[07:41] <ro> :(
[07:41] <xtknight> tabman, a command line pdf viewer or open a GUI pdf via cmd line?
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> frank_b: I'm still pondering, but I'm not aware of a smart method for simply making it seamlessly larger - there's usually a level of separation involved.
[07:41] <xtknight> ro: most pc manufacturers have things that let you burn the recovery junk to dvd, then you can do whatever you want with your HD arrangements
[07:41] <Katari> tonyyarusso: ok thanks... I guess that maybe I'll just partition/format the new drive from windows first, and then install ubuntu, think that will be more reliable?
[07:42] <tabman> xtknight: wanna open a pdf file which should automatically open in whatever application should open it
[07:42] <locolbd> does anyone know where i can find the FONTS folder in ubuntu fesity fawn
[07:42] <spyderpop_> If sudo is broken, what must I do to fix it?
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> tabman: Yeah - there are some cli readers, use apt-cache to find one
[07:42] <xtknight> spyderpop_, recovery mode probably
[07:42] <ro> xtkinght: does grub HAVE to go on the first partition?
[07:42] <xtknight> locolbd,  , /usr/share/fonts
[07:42] <xtknight> ro: no
[07:42] <ro> i don't really wanna get rid of my recovery drive
[07:42] <abcdef> how do we turn off program that i dont need?
[07:42] <ro> xtknight++ woohoo!
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> Katari: I'd say the GParted live CD (only like 30 MB anyway) is the best way.
[07:42] <frank_b> tonyyarusso, ok, thank you very much for your help :)
[07:42] <locolbd> xtknight: thanks ;)
[07:42] <xtknight> ro: but i'm not sure how to tell the installer otherwise
[07:42] <abcdef> the services i mean
[07:42] <ro> rbot
[07:42] <xtknight> ro: it automatically does hd0
[07:42] <ro> oh ok
[07:42] <xtknight> ro: so i wouldnt suggest trying it.  it may overwrite stuff
[07:43] <ro> yeah true
[07:43] <xtknight> ro: i would burn it to dvd or get the media in optical form somehow
[07:43] <spyderpop_> xtknight, yeah nvmd i just fixed it. /etc/groups was all messed up.
[07:43] <tabman> tonyyarusso: no not CLI readers I mean the pdf viewer opens the pdf file, I just open the file through my command line rather then going & clicking the file icon
[07:43] <alex_qwe> hi
[07:43] <xtknight> tabman, nautilus <file>
[07:43] <alex_qwe> need help on one script
[07:43] <xtknight> perhaps?
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> tabman: Ah, nvm.  Then it's just 'reader_name /path/to/file.pdf'
[07:43] <xtknight> hmm
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> tabman: So like 'evince /home/tabman/coolbook.pdf'
[07:43] <alex_qwe> the script starts on boot
[07:43] <alex_qwe> and run a program
[07:44] <alex_qwe> as a root
[07:44] <xtknight> he means, what's the shell execute command in ubuntu?
[07:44] <lmjed> ubotu, nvidia > me
[07:44] <alex_qwe> how can i lunch a program as another user
[07:44] <sethk> alex_qwe, su to that user
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> alex_qwe: Try to keep your question on one line please, so people can follow better.
[07:44] <Katari> thanks for all your help guys, another question not directly ubuntu related... I want to install truecrypt and crypt as much as possible, is it possible to encrypt my entire /home dir? or will ubuntu not like logging in
[07:44] <frank_b> tonyyarusso, how do I then transfer my home partition to the new hard drive?
[07:44] <Katari> actually I'd want to truecrypt everything possible, but, at least to have the system boot and start sshd before truecrypt... just the basics
[07:44] <ROnewbie> ound problem in Edgy.  I have an Intel 82801DB sound card on a Gateway 3040GZ, and despite being installed and loaded, there's no sound coming out of it. Alsamixer is max on everything, system/sound is all on alsamixer, sound modules are loaded, yet there's NOTHING coming out. Anyone, please ?
[07:45] <ROnewbie> *Sound
[07:45] <alex_qwe> the script starts on boot and lunch a program as root, how can i lunch that program as other user
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> frank_b: Various methods are possible, from dd to cp, live systems or booted - depends
[07:45] <Lbawinowns> Erm, is there any music program that can play midi?
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> alex_qwe: A lot of things have a user to run as in their config file, apache2 for instance.
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> !midi | Lbawinowns
[07:45] <ubotu> Lbawinowns: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[07:46] <frank_b> tonyyarusso, ok, I'll look for information about it on the internet then. thanks you very much once again
[07:46] <ro> rbot: karma ro
[07:46] <ro> rbot: help
[07:46] <Xteven> hi, does anyone else have a crashing evolution in edgy ?
[07:46] <prosikito> does anyone know how can I enable ctrl-c at boot time, sometimes my syslogd gets stuck and I need to boot from another partition to solve the problem, I'd like to be able to kill it with ctrl-c
[07:46] <alex_qwe> tonyyarusso, this is not the case, is rtorrent
[07:46] <ROnewbie> Lbawinowns: were you talking to me ?
[07:46] <Liffon> part
[07:46] <Masura> what was the name of feisty installer to windows
[07:47] <thesilentw> hello everyone i need help urgently, today, when i woke up, turn pc on to check mail, and ubuntu had some updates, install them turn pc off and gone to school, now, when i start pc, ubuntu stops at at load, the progress bar stays at 0 or 1 % and doesnt move more, in grub its diferent, and i have a kernel version as secund option, that is older, i select it, it boots but without x server, anyone can help me ?
[07:47] <ROnewbie> Lbawinowns: you want me to play midi ?
[07:47] <Lbawinowns> No???
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> alex_qwe: ah.  You could put it in that user's crontab, with @reboot as the time to run.
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> Masura: "Broken"
[07:47] <mc44> thesilentw: you are running feisty?
[07:47] <thesilentw> yes
[07:47] <mc44> thesilentw: see the topic in #ubuntu+1
[07:48] <thesilentw> it was working like a charm before that
[07:48] <czr> any d-i/preseed experts around?
[07:48] <czr> I have a problem getting ubuntu pressed d-i to use my proxy
[07:48] <ROnewbie> Lbawinowns: sorry, I thought you replied to an earlier post of mine on sound problems
[07:48] <iamalex> lol I thought that read "any depressed experts around"
[07:48] <ROnewbie> Sound problem in Edgy.  I have an Intel 82801DB sound card on a Gateway 3040GZ laptop, and despite being installed and loaded, there's no sound coming out of it. Alsamixer is max on everything, system/sound is all on alsamixer, sound modules are loaded, yet there's NOTHING coming out. Anyone, please ?
[07:48] <czr> iamalex, heh, there are many :-)
[07:48] <Lbawinowns> Lol ok, that sounded so crazy XD
[07:48] <thesilentw> mc44, thx mate, didnt join cause i have all setup on ubuntu pc, this is a backup pc
[07:49] <sethk> thesilentw, with the old kernel booted, reinstall the updates
[07:49] <thesilentw> how?
[07:49] <thesilentw> i am new to linux
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> czr: Chances are most of the people who know d-i are collectively panicking over the Feisty kernel issues atm - may try again later.
[07:49] <JLXL> !chroot
[07:49] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:49] <albert> hi, anybody in here with fluxbox experience?
[07:49] <aliasxerog> yoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyo
[07:49] <Jispa> I've got a little question I didn't see in the FAQ :p
[07:49] <czr> tonyyarusso, after the feisty launch you mean? oh my :-)
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> czr: Hopefully it won't take that long.  I'd say tomorrow afternoon, assuming they fix it today, then get a drink and a nice night's sleep ;)
[07:50] <zPacKRat> anyone else having problems downloading the kernel source for todays updates to feisty
[07:51] <Jispa> I've got a problem with the last kernel and some fat and ntfs disks
[07:51] <czr> tonyyarusso, optimist :-). we'll, I'll fire up wireshark and see for myself. google draws blanks as well, not really sure what the problem even is. d-i netboot just loads the additional d-i pieces off net..
[07:51] <czr> (bypassing proxy, which is not good for me :-)
[07:51] <xtknight> there's a netboot for feisty?
[07:52] <czr> using 6.10 here
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> !netboot | xtknight
[07:53] <ubotu> xtknight: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:53] <zPacKRat> anyone else having problems downloading the kernel source for todays updates to feisty
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> not sure if that's what you wanted...
[07:53] <xtknight> tonyyarusso,  ah didnt even know there was any netboot for any ubuntu.  i'll take a look
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> zPacKRat: Anything with the phrase "kernel...feisty" today is sketchy.  Ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:53] <czr> tonyyarusso, nah, my problem is much lower level, gone beyond noob already :-)
[07:53] <lethal_> !AIGLX | lethal_
[07:54] <zPacKRat> thanks tony
[07:54] <czr> woot. got it
[07:54] <czr> that specific d-i parameter will be ignored from kernel command line. I added it to the preseed file and now it works
[07:54] <czr> go figure /me shrugs
[07:55] <xtknight> what's the practical difference between killall and killall -HUP
[07:56] <czr> xtknight, the first sends the default signal (TERM), the second sends HUP signal (hangup)
[07:56] <czr> HUP is mostly used by daemons/services as a signal to reload their configuration (amongst other things)
[07:56] <meal3837> is it normal for python to read modules out of /var/mail/?
[07:56] <xtknight> czr, i see
[07:56] <czr> meal3837, no
[07:56] <meal3837> is that why it needs the loopback if?
[07:56] <Loki-uk> hi this is a total newbie  question but I've only been using ubuntu for about 4 hrs now I have an sb16 sound card  but for some reason itt is not enabled in the default install of ubuntu can anyone tell me how I enable it?
[07:57] <Gambaroni> when I'm going to install using netboot.. It seems like it couldn't find the root file system, why?
[07:57] <interfear> anyone have any idea when the offical 7.04 will be out?
[07:57] <xtknight> interfear, april 19
[07:57] <meal3837> ok, so i can't read in the math module, and the error is saying it's looking for it in /var/mail
[07:57] <Loki-uk> inter: you can order cd's now
[07:57] <interfear> ah nice..
[07:57] <Zaggynl^Laptop> Hi, I kinda lost the URL bar in Opera, and I have no clue howto get it back
[07:57] <Zaggynl^Laptop> I enabled every toolbar I could find :(
[07:57] <abcdef> interfear, how do i order cd
[07:57] <abcdef> oop
[07:58] <eck> meal3837: check sys.path
[07:58] <Loki-uk> abc: you can order cd's  free
[07:58] <MajorPayne> Can I upgrade to 7.04 from 6.10 using aptitude?
[07:58] <meal3837> where is that?
[07:59] <dqk> russians am?
[07:59] <eck> import sys; print sys.path
[07:59] <dqk> no)
[07:59] <fuzzy_logic> hello world
[08:00] <dqk> lo
[08:00] <fuzzy_logic> what's a good tool to burn iso images in gnome with?
[08:00] <meal3837> hmm, nothing about /var/mail
[08:00] <meal3837> is import syntax the same in 2.5?
[08:00] <eck> yes
[08:00] <meal3837> and file i/o?
[08:00] <timerabu> hi
[08:00] <interfear> s-video cables carry both sound and video correct?
[08:00] <timerabu> guys
[08:00] <eck> i would ask in #python
[08:01] <xtknight> interfear, svideo is only video
[08:01] <interfear> oh..
[08:01] <DarkX> interfear, yeah video only
[08:01] <timerabu> hi guys, how do i increase the speed of download?
[08:01] <interfear> so if i hooked my pc up to my tv through s-video to watch a movie, sound would be coming out of my pc speakers only..
[08:01] <zPacKRat> bigger cans and string
[08:01] <fuzzy_logic> what is a good tool in gnome to burn iso with?
[08:01] <interfear> i see..
[08:01] <xtknight> timerabu, download of what ?
[08:01] <xtknight> fuzzy_logic, gnome-baker but i like k3b (Qt) better
[08:01] <timerabu> torrent files
[08:02] <DarkX> interfear, if your TV has svidio port it probably also has the red and white RCA connectors no?
[08:02] <xtknight> timerabu, open ports or enable DMZ
[08:02] <interfear> yes it does
[08:02] <eck> timerabu: get a faster internet connection
[08:02] <aliasxerog> yoyoyoyoyoyo guys does anyone know of a 64 bit extractor for numbers
[08:02] <DarkX> in which case you can convert from headphones...to RCA
[08:02] <zPacKRat> yeh, if your leaching and not giving back you will get slow speeds
[08:02] <HorizonXP> hey
[08:02] <xtknight> aliasxerog, what is that ?
[08:02] <timerabu> oks
[08:02] <HorizonXP> hey
[08:02] <fuzzy_logic> xtknight: k3b doesn't work.. it says it doesn't have permission to open the device.. really strange..
[08:02] <timerabu> thanks
[08:02] <HorizonXP> what video cards have the best support in Ubuntu?
[08:02] <xtknight> fuzzy_logic, no problem here
[08:02] <xtknight> hmm
[08:02] <HorizonXP> if i were to buy one
[08:02] <eck> HorizonXP: intel, always
[08:02] <timerabu> newbie to ubuntu and thanks for the help i get out here
[08:02] <DarkX> HorizonXP, i have luck with nvidia  if u need openGL
[08:02] <xtknight> HorizonXP, geforce 6xxx has good support
[08:03] <binks_> anyone good with nfs
[08:03] <aliasxerog> it gets a number out of a crypt
[08:03] <DarkX> if not intels are fine
[08:03] <HorizonXP> but Intel's GPUs are kinda lame aren't they?
[08:03] <xtknight> geforce 7800gt is decent besides the fact that they still haven't fixed the bug in 'nv'.  vesa or nvidia proprietary driver works great without crash
[08:03] <MajorPayne> Can I upgrade to 7.04 from 6.10 using aptitude?
[08:03] <xtknight> !upgrade
[08:03] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:03] <binks_> MajorPayne: yes
[08:03] <DarkX> im using 2 7300 GTs
[08:03] <DarkX> in SLI mode
[08:03] <Zaggynl^Laptop> can anyone help me with Opera?
[08:03] <DarkX> works fine in linux
[08:03] <Zaggynl^Laptop> I lost my URL bar :(
[08:03] <xtknight> !anyone
[08:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:03] <meal3837> !python
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <czr> tonyyarusso, thanks for the help though :-)
[08:04] <xtknight> DarkX, nvidia proprietary driver?
[08:04] <DarkX> yup
[08:04] <eck> HorizonXP: yeah, but they have the best support by far. the drivers are open source, and it's basically what the X.org developers use, so usually the drivers are as up to date as possible
[08:04] <interfear> would you guys ever buy a macintosh? i would like to get a laptop, and i dont know what to get.. the macs are looking very nice
[08:04] <PriceChild> MajorPayne, feisty is not finished. #ubuntu+1 for support
[08:04] <PriceChild> MajorPayne, it is also broken atm
[08:04] <DarkX> interfear macs all run x86 architecure now
[08:04] <abcdef> ubuntu turn on services that i dont need, no wonder why it's so slow
[08:04] <Anomal1> hey guys, can anyone help me install grub using the edgy liveCD?
[08:04] <HorizonXP> hrmm....
[08:04] <xtknight> PriceChild, feisty is broken?
[08:04] <HorizonXP> but you can't buy Intel-based video cards can you?
[08:04] <DarkX> its same as a normal PC..your just paying for the name..not RISC architecure
[08:04] <DarkX> or speed
[08:04] <HorizonXP> it's either built on your board, or not
[08:04] <zPacKRat> Zaggynl, you could delete /home/your username/.opera
[08:05] <PersonA> I hope fiesty isn't broken. I am updating to it as we speak
[08:05] <binks_> if i added this to /etc/exports would i need to create the folder /dbox/mp3 in the root
[08:05] <meal3837> is this a valid syntax? file = open("filename.txt.", "w")
[08:05] <fuzzy_logic> xtknight: how can i get gnome-baker? synaptic doesnt have it
[08:05] <zPacKRat> you will loose all settings though
[08:05] <interfear> DarkX: yeh i know that, so are you saying there isnt really a point then?
[08:05] <eck> yeah... there are rumors that soon intel will release non-integrated video cards
[08:05] <Zaggynl^Laptop> zPacKRat, although drastic, might fix it :)
[08:05] <binks_> ./dbox/mp3 dbox(rw, no_root_squash)
[08:05] <czr> meal3837, yes, but the extra trailing dot is suspicious. why not join #python and ask there?
[08:05] <xtknight> fuzzy_logic, gnomebaker rather
[08:05] <meal3837> good call
[08:05] <DarkX> interfear, exactly...it will cost you an arm and a leg and your locked into their proprietary shit sometimes....so itd be easier to build your own or get something from dell
[08:06] <interfear> yeh..
[08:06] <fuzzy_logic> xtknight: yes.. now i see it.. tnx anyway
[08:06] <zPacKRat> zaggynl, try ctl + F8
[08:06] <interfear> so you would recommend a dell? or any other companies you recommend?
[08:06] <DarkX> personally im an AMD guy too....not intel...so thats what kills macs for me
[08:06] <xtknight> intel Core 2 is a great chip, though
[08:06] <xtknight> i just get whatever's fastest
[08:06] <DarkX> its ok...AMDs new chips are gunna make it look like shit though :P
[08:06] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[08:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:06] <Znuff> Hello. I'm having some sounds problems on Ubuntu 6.10. I have an nForce 2 mainboard with on-board sound. The sound card gets detected but I can't hear any sound coming from my soundcard, except the microphone. Any ideas?
[08:07] <xtknight> lol doubt it
[08:07] <Zaggynl^Laptop> zPacKRat, the search bar dissappears and and reappears when I press that
[08:07] <zPacKRat> Core2 is a great architecture, fast and power efficient.
[08:07] <zPacKRat> what version?
[08:08] <Zaggynl^Laptop> zPacKRat, my opera : http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4845/snapshot1sv1.png
[08:08] <interfear> if i got a laptop id want something small
[08:08] <interfear> i dont want to lug around something huge
[08:08] <Anomal1> hey guys. I'm trying to install grub, because upgrading to feisty wiped it for some reason. I looked at this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351, but what it tells me to do doesnt work. after running find /boot/grub/stage1, i just get a file not found error
[08:08] <Xteven> the problem seems to be liborg-gnome-evolution-startup-wizard.so... can anyone with an uptodate edgy confirm that evolution crashes when it gets started ?
[08:09] <Anomal1> can anyone help?
[08:09] <Znuff> holy crap, nevermind
[08:09] <PriceChild> Anomal1, #ubuntu+1 for feisty - it is not finished
[08:09] <Anomal1> PriceChild: should it matter that the base system is feisty thought? :/
[08:09] <Anomal1> but i'll ask in there anyway
[08:09] <slestak> im trying to troubleshoot an old app that uses ascii line drawing chars.  in both gnome terminal and konsole, everything displays fine except the popup window outlines.
[08:10] <mjgxtc_> can anyone tell me how to get the drivers for a wireless card using the RaLInk chipset?
[08:10] <slestak> ive verified that it is using \179 and \196 to draw the box.  i have a proprietary term app for linix that displays them fine.
[08:10] <slestak> trying to use markus's wy60 terminal app though
[08:11] <park13> i have spend some time trying to learn how to install ubuntu span on 3 150 hard drives.  SO there will only be one giant hard drive.  Can someone guide a newbie please
[08:11] <slestak> park13: id recommend leaving a non-raid and non-lvm partition for / and /boot.  will make theing a lot simpler
[08:11] <Kazz> Whenever I upgrade my kernel, the grub menu gets set up with incorrect locations for the root and  boot partitions (I moved them, and I think it's using the old locations, but it's hard to tell since it's using UUIDs).  Can anyone tell me where it's getting the information from so I can fix it at the source instead of editing the grub menu every time?  Or is it trying to figure it out automatically every time?
[08:11] <kitche> park13: use lvm
[08:11] <PersonA> If i stop an update in progress .. Edgy to Fiesty.. Before it is finished. Would it cause me any headaches ? Or major errors ?
[08:12] <park13> slestak:  i will but how?
[08:12] <Kazz> park13: I would recommend EVMS, not just LVM.
[08:12] <Shafto> Kazz, Is it latest kernel? Cause I heard they having trouble with booitng it
[08:12] <mjgxtc_> is there a way to get the drivers for a wireless card using RaLink chipset through pat-get?
[08:12] <Shafto> Kazz, 2.6.20?
[08:12] <slestak> PersonA: i had that problem, had to reboot in the middle.  my install was okay, but ymmv
[08:12] <Suurorca> Kazz: I think there's somewhere option 'default root' or something like that in the config. check that it's correct
[08:12] <park13> kazz: can u please tell me how? off live cd?
[08:12] <PersonA> slestak . Thanks.. Trying ti now
[08:12] <Kazz> Shafto: Yeah, among others, but it boots fine, I just have to edit the grub menu.
[08:13] <octoberdan> Every so often parts of gnome freeze. I'm running edgy and everything's updated. The bars at the top and bottom freeze or stop responding to clicks
[08:13] <slestak> park13: it gets pretty complicatied pretty quick.  google for howtwos using lvm
[08:13] <Shafto> Kazz, Ohhh thats at /boot/grub/grub.conf i think
[08:13] <lethal_> Does anyone know why wine is broken in the edge repos?
[08:13] <octoberdan> right now just the bottom went, right after an MPlayer crash
[08:13] <Shafto> lethal_, Use the wine repos
[08:13] <Kazz> Suurorca: Which config?  Grub?  I guess I should have looked through the rest of the config file better, huh? :)
[08:13] <slestak> park13: what your doing is kinda beyond the scope of irc, noones gonna give you step by step
[08:13] <lethal_> Shafto: I've tried them
[08:14] <Suurorca> Kazz: yes..
[08:14] <Kazz> park13: Are you trying to install onto that, or are you going to put the root partition somewhere else?
[08:14] <Shafto> lethal_, ask at #winehq
[08:14] <octoberdan> Anyone have an idea what might be going wrong? Or know how I can restart gnome without closing out all my apps?
[08:14] <Kazz> Suurorca: Okay, I'll look for it there, thanks. :)
[08:14] <Shafto> octoberdan, Ive had that problem on a gentoo install, Turned out to be my wireless mouse XD
[08:14] <lethal_> Shafto: Oh, ok, didn't know they had their own channel :P
[08:14] <Shafto> lethal_, Yep
[08:14] <park13> kazz: i am trying to do a new install on a pc that has 3 seperate 150 hard drive
[08:14] <Suurorca> Kazz: # groot=(hd0,3)
[08:14] <octoberdan> Shafto: haha, weird..
[08:15] <Suurorca> line 73 in my conf file.. should be the same
[08:15] <octoberdan> Shafto: How would you recover from it? Just restart?
[08:15] <Suurorca> Kazz: you might need to use update-grub to update it
[08:15] <timerabu> bhutanese there
[08:15] <[_Avatar_] > hi
[08:15] <Shafto> octoberdan, Well in the end I switched to XFCE and a wired mouse, not a problem since
[08:15] <Kazz> Suurorca: Got it, thanks. :)
[08:16] <Ryak> New user here, I have installed (i think successfully) feisty on an external usb drive.  I installed GRUB to (hd1) which was the usb drive during install.  When I have the BIOS boot to that drive I just get GRUB across the entire screen as if it is hung.  Any help would be greatly appreciated
[08:16] <[_Avatar_] > reporting use of a x60 and feisty amd 64
[08:16] <zPacKRat> zaggynl, how customized is it?
[08:16] <[_Avatar_] > core 2 duo : ok
[08:16] <Tuple> I'm running a dist-upgrade from edgy to feisty, I get a 404 error when trying to get the kernel
[08:16] <[_Avatar_] > could even get fingerprint
[08:16] <Tuple> at
[08:16] <Tuple> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb
[08:16] <Pici> Tuple: See the topic ^^
[08:16] <Kazz> park13: You only have those 3 hard drives in the computer then, not an extra one to install the main part of the OS onto?
[08:16] <Zaggynl^Laptop> zPacKRat, to be honest, I just installed it, clicked too fast, then lost my URL bar
[08:16] <Kevlar_Soul> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb
[08:16] <Kevlar_Soul>   403 Forbidden [IP: xx.xx.xx.xx.xx] ] 
[08:16] <Shafto> Tuple, I tried that didnt work easier to jsut reinstall using feisty iso
[08:16] <Kevlar_Soul> Wtf?
[08:17] <park13> kazz: yes
[08:17] <Shafto> Kevlar_Soul, They screwed it up :)
[08:17] <Pici> !breakage
[08:17] <Kevlar_Soul> I cant get the latest kernal?
[08:17] <ubotu> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/82314 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106063  - A fix will be published When It's Ready
[08:17] <Tuple> heh, sorry
[08:17] <Shafto> Kevlar_Soul, there you goo read what ubotu has wrote
[08:17] <Kevlar_Soul> okay
[08:17] <Anomal1> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[08:17] <Anomal1> Error 15: File not found
[08:17] <Anomal1> ^^ anyone suggest a fix?
[08:17] <Pici> Tuple: Forgot what channel I was in, yes, the fiesty kernel is broke
[08:18] <Kazz> park13: I haven't done it the way yet, but I think you should be able to install the EVMS software (including the evmsgui package) after you boot the Live CD, and hopefully you can set it up from there.
[08:18] <zPacKRat> open a terminal and type cc /usr/home/yourusername
[08:18] <Kevlar_Soul> thanks, why cant they fix this faster, I havent been able to update the new kernal ALL DAY!!!!!!!!!!
[08:18] <Kevlar_Soul> That is BS
[08:18] <Zaggynl^Laptop> I enabled every bar:http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/5580/snapshot2us8.png
[08:18] <Shafto> Kevlar_Soul, Cut them abit of slack
[08:18] <kitche> Kevlar_Soul: it's also not hard to compile it yourself if you wanted really
[08:18] <Kevlar_Soul> I did my part, I downloaded this "software"
[08:19] <zPacKRat> once there rm ".opera -d -r" without quotes
[08:19] <Kevlar_Soul> They need to uphold their end
[08:19] <zPacKRat> with opera closed
[08:19] <zPacKRat> then restart
[08:19] <Shafto> Kevlar_Soul, Doing your part would be donating maybe or developing
[08:19] <octoberdan> Shafto: What do you like about XFCE that gnome didn't have?
[08:19] <octoberdan> Shafto: I'm considering changing window managers
[08:19] <Kazz> park13: If the hard drives are the same type, I would recommend using another RAID setup (probably RAID 0 if you don't need the relative safety of RAID 5 or anything) instead of just stringing them together like you were talking about.  The performance will be better, and either setup you'll still lose everything if one of the drives dies.
[08:19] <park13> kazz:  thanks
[08:19] <Shafto> octoberdan, Runs alot faster for me tbh
[08:19] <Kevlar_Soul> I am BETA TESTING basically Glitch-ware
[08:19] <Kazz> park13: There is a #evms channel on here, and they might be able to help you more if you need it.
[08:20] <Kevlar_Soul> Ubuntu is free for a reason
[08:20] <Shafto> Kevlar_Soul, Sooo arrogant
[08:20] <Kevlar_Soul> My "UPDATE" icon sits there taunting me
[08:20] <Shafto> Kevlar_Soul, How can an icon taunt you
[08:21] <octoberdan> Shafto: Did you install just XFCE or xubuntu-desktop?
[08:21] <abcdef> how do i restore to default services? i think i fscuk up my system
[08:21] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: are you on feisty? If you update, it won't kill you... they disabled the broken update.
[08:21] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: go to #ubuntu+1 for help with that
[08:21] <Shafto> octoberdan, If i was you id get xubuntu-desktop
[08:21] <Kazz> park13: Basically though, you install EVMS, set up one or more sections of the drive set as RAID, set up LVM on top of that, use LVM to further partition your RAID set(s) into root, home, etc. and hopefully you'll be able to install directly onto them if you do that from the Live CD.
[08:21] <Kevlar_Soul> yeah I need to go to kick some developer butt, is that a room?
[08:21] <sethk> Kevlar_Soul, you might think about the fact that you probably don't need the update for any particular reason right now.  In general, if you wait a few days after each update comes out before installing, you'll make your life much easier.
[08:22] <Kazz> park13: One important thing to remember though, your boot partition can not be on a RAID partition unless it is just RAID 1!
[08:22] <octoberdan> Shafto: How come?
[08:22] <Kevlar_Soul> if I dont need it
[08:22] <Kevlar_Soul> WHY DID THEY DO IT?
[08:22] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: you're testing beta software. There was a warning before you installed it. There's no need to kick devel butt, but you COULD try to help them.
[08:22] <m1sha> can anyone help me setting up a bootlader? I installed XP and now I can't boot back into linux
[08:22] <Shafto> octoberdan, Comes nice and customised with lots of preinstalled software
[08:22] <Kevlar_Soul> Yeah Ubuntu is beta.
[08:22] <kitche> !grub | m1sha
[08:22] <ubotu> m1sha: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:22] <Pici> !beta | Kevlar_Soul
[08:22] <AlexFicelle> m1sha: Do you have a live CD?
[08:22] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: Feisty is beta. Edgy isn't.
[08:22] <ubotu> Kevlar_Soul: Download Feisty Fawn Beta at http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04, read release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Beta and upgrade instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades; consider doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing; Just because it's almost ready doesn't mean it is - final releases happen when they do for a reason, be warned and prepared for unbootable systems.
[08:22] <Kevlar_Soul> I am, I report problems
[08:23] <zPacKRat> thazaggynl, i'm sure you know this, but i meant cd /home/username
[08:23] <Enselic> When I have the IDE cable of my CD reader connected to the mobo, it seems dead when I boot, e.g. the front diod doesn't blink, and the tray cannot be ejected. However, when I only have the power cable connected to the CD reader, the front diod blinks and I can eject and close the tray. Anyone know what's wrong?
[08:23] <Kevlar_Soul> I am allowing statistics to be GATHERED
[08:23] <zPacKRat> i hope i did not kill your syste
[08:23] <zPacKRat> m
[08:23] <Kevlar_Soul> Im thinking of stopping that
[08:23] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: are you using Feisty?
[08:23] <OuZo> what is the command to run a jar file? i have tried java file.jar & i got a main exception. thanks
[08:23] <kitche> Enselic: bad secondary controller on the mobo
[08:23] <alex_qwe> exit
[08:23] <Kevlar_Soul> im Using UBUNTU
[08:23] <Pici> Kevlar_Soul: Are you saying that you're running production systems on a beta os?
[08:23] <kitche> OuZo: java -jar file.jar
[08:23] <tabman> can I play .rm files in ubuntu ?
[08:23] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: what version?
[08:23] <Enselic> tabman: yes
[08:23] <trz> !fat32 | trz
[08:23] <OuZo> kitche: thanks
[08:23] <Nicholim> Anyone know how to make firefox launch an irc client when I click on an irc:// URL?
[08:23] <Kevlar_Soul> The VERSION that wont let me INSTALL this update
[08:23] <Enselic> tabman: google for realplayer linux
[08:24] <dogmeat> folks, which pkg can i use to play m3u (streaming mp3 audio), and create m3u formats from mp3s?
[08:24] <tabman> Enselic: I can't play mp3 files, it shows some codec problems ?
[08:24] <juice`> what can i do if apt-get is telling me i got bad MD5 sum? i know the file i downloaded is ok and i tested it 20 times.
[08:24] <octoberdan> Shafto: Thanks for the tips, I'll give it a shot
[08:24] <kitche> tabman: you have to install liblame
[08:24] <mjgxtc_> can anyone help with installing a wireless card using an RaLink Chipset?  I know i need a module somehow
[08:24] <juice`> it's when i do apt-get update , it stops on -src source
[08:24] <Kazz> park13: I would recommend making a small partition (as small as 100 megs or so, maybe a little bigger) at the beginning of each drive and setting those up as just plain RAID 1 partitions without doing anything else to them.  Oh, and you should probably do the same for swap partitions too (although they don't need to be RAID 1, just individual partitions).  Then you can set up the rest of each of the drives as RAID 0 or whatever, put LVM on top o
[08:24] <Kazz> f that (you can do this all through EVMS) and then partition that into whatever you need for root, home, etc.
[08:24] <dogmeat> whoops, m3u is a playlist :D
[08:24] <iamjk> anyone had luck accessing at zune using ubuntu?
[08:24] <tabman> kitche: liblame is a package ?
[08:24] <nikin> !codecs
[08:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:25] <Shafto> octoberdan, :D
[08:25] <Pici> Kevlar_Soul: First of all... calm down, second of all #ubuntu+1 is the official channel for Feisty talk (until it is released).
[08:25] <kitche> juice`: if it's a deb that you downloaded yourself you dpkg -i
[08:25] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: I've just checked your Ubuntu version, and you are using the BETA version.
[08:25] <Shafto> octoberdan, Never try fluxbox though its poo :P
[08:25] <kitche> juice`: or double click it
[08:25] <Kevlar_Soul> They SUPPOSEDLY support the releases for 18 months...So theoretically you shouldn't have to upgrade for a year and a half unless you really want to
[08:25] <Enselic> kitche: is that fixable?
[08:25] <Kevlar_Soul> cables, lol wrong
[08:25] <juice`> kitche: it's tellig me that Source.bz2 has bad md5
[08:25] <kitche> Enselic: not really well besides buy a new mobo
[08:25] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: you're using 7.04, I just versioned you.
[08:25] <juice`> kitche: it's not deb, it's list of packages
[08:25] <kitche> juice`: oh then don't know what to tell you then :)
[08:26] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: your Xchat-gnome version is only available in Feisty... therefore, you are using Ubuntu beta.
[08:26] <juice`> it's failing to update it's source packages, complaining about imaginery md5 error
[08:26] <Kevlar_Soul> My version information says no such thing
[08:26] <octoberdan> Shafto: I've tried it and I definitely agree
[08:26] <Kevlar_Soul> I got the new Xchat myself.
[08:26] <da_shrewd> hello, anyone can help me?
[08:26] <juice`> i'm not sure how to tell it to not complaing about md5 error, because there is nothing wrong with Sources.bz2
[08:26] <Andiez> Can anyone help me with the terminal?
[08:26] <Anomal1> ok, guys
[08:26] <Kevlar_Soul> 18 MONTHS
[08:26] <octoberdan> Irssi for life!
[08:26] <Kevlar_Soul> of Support
[08:26] <da_shrewd> i have problem with apache
[08:26] <Juhaz> and what makes you think it's imaginary?
[08:26] <Anomal1> is there any waay to install the windows bootloader
[08:26] <mjgxtc_> cables Im using xchat-gnome and Im on 6.10
[08:26] <abcdef> can someone help me, how do i restore default services?
[08:26] <Kevlar_Soul> I DEMAND they fix everything, THEY AGREED to it
[08:26] <Xif> the DVD in the player is apparently scratched, now Ubuntu won't eject it?!
[08:26] <Kevlar_Soul> 18 MONTHS
[08:26] <Anomal1> using the ubuntu CD?
[08:26] <abcdef> i turned off some of the service and my system couldn't boot
[08:26] <cables> mjgxtc_: but you're using .13, not .16
[08:27] <Xif> Error: invalid device /media/cdrom0 (must be in /dev/)
[08:27] <Xif> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[08:27] <mjgxtc_> ahh
[08:27] <cables> should I !ops?
[08:27] <Kazz> Anomal1: Why do you want the windows boot loader?
[08:27] <kitche> Kevlar_Soul: your on 7.04 which isn't even out yet
[08:27] <Nicholim> mjgtxc: only if you dont' want to be able to boot a non-MS operating system
[08:27] <Shafto> Kevlar_Soul, God you wont die just cauase you havent got the latest kernel! your pc is working so stop complaining and let them fix it!
[08:27] <kitche> cables: you might :) sounds more of a troll
[08:27] <dandispaltro> I am running amd64 system and installed 32 bit firefox and the fonts look alot less antialiased
[08:27] <cyberfr0g`> yo
[08:27] <Durtro> hi
[08:27] <dandispaltro> how do I fix that
[08:27] <Softly> yo
[08:27] <cables> !ops
[08:27] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[08:27] <Durtro> I'll find out
[08:27] <Evil_Ed> yo
[08:27] <cyberfr0g`> out of interest
[08:27] <Softly> you tell me ;)
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> cables: ?
[08:27] <Evil_Ed> don't know
[08:27] <PriceChild> cables, ?
[08:27] <cables> tonyyarusso: Kevlar_Soul is ranting about a broken update, insulting devs, etc
[08:27] <cables> PriceChild ^^
[08:27] <trz> how do i reload the partition table again ?
[08:27] <Kevlar_Soul> huh?
[08:27] <octoberdan> Alright! Xubuntu downloaded and installed... brb
[08:27] <Anomal1> Kazz, because no-one will help me install grub
[08:28] <Shafto> tonyyarusso, Yeah Kevlar_Soul = very annoying!
[08:28] <graft> how do i fix this amarok thing, where it tells me "Fingerprinting of .mp3 files is not supported" for tunepimp/musicbrainz?
[08:28] <Kevlar_Soul> Shafto:  you need to enhance your calm, sir
[08:28] <Kevlar_Soul> Very emotional reactions
[08:28] <Kazz> Anomal1: What problem are you having installing grub?
[08:28] <Anomal1> kazz, when I do find /boot/grub/stage1
[08:28] <Anomal1> i get Error 15: file not found
[08:28] <Kazz> Kevlar_Soul: You seem a little emotional yourself... ;)
[08:28] <Kevlar_Soul> The KERNAL update is for ALL VERSIONS, OH IM RIGHT
[08:28] <fenrig> hi i have linux-header problems
[08:28] <Kevlar_Soul> So
[08:28] <ImiBagPulaInToti> !pastebin
[08:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> Kevlar_Soul: What version are you using?
[08:28] <Kevlar_Soul> I demand the new kernal update.
[08:29] <Kevlar_Soul> doesnt matter, the kernal is for all versions
[08:29] <Kazz> Anomal1: You may have it trying to boot off of the wrong partition...how many hard drives do you have?
[08:29] <Kevlar_Soul> snap
[08:29] <cables> tonyyarusso: his xchat-gnome version corresponds to feisty
[08:29] <Anomal1> Kazz, 1
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> Kevlar_Soul: That's actually not true, so please either answer the questions or stop.
[08:29] <Kevlar_Soul> IS the Kernal for all versions?
[08:29] <Kevlar_Soul> yes.
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> no
[08:29] <Kevlar_Soul> Edgy, ?
[08:29] <PriceChild> Kevlar_Soul, please join #ubuntu+1
[08:29] <Anomal1> Kazz, brb
[08:29] <Kevlar_Soul> Is it for Edgy?
[08:29] <lolman> Grr haha
[08:29] <dandispaltro> I am running amd64 system and installed 32 bit firefox and the fonts look alot less antialiased
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> Kevlar_Soul: lsb_release -a tells you your version.
[08:29] <dandispaltro> how do I fix that
[08:29] <Kevlar_Soul> No answer?
[08:30] <Kevlar_Soul> Does the Kernal update apply to EDGY?
[08:30] <Kevlar_Soul> ...
[08:30] <Kevlar_Soul> NOW
[08:30] <Kevlar_Soul> LIke I siad.
[08:30] <Kevlar_Soul> said.
[08:30] <PriceChild> Kevlar_Soul, You are running ubuntu feisty and requesting support for it. Please join #ubuntu+1
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> Kevlar_Soul: Which update?  You need to give specifics if you expect answers.
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> !enter
[08:30] <Kevlar_Soul> I demand the update.
[08:30] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:30] <Kazz> Kevlar_Soul: Go download your own kernel, compile it and shut your mouth.
[08:30] <Kevlar_Soul> No Im requesting support for a patch that applies to EDGY
[08:30] <Kevlar_Soul> :D
[08:30] <Shafto> tonyyarusso, Hes talking about the latest kernel update, with booting errors
[08:31] <PriceChild> !coc > Kazz
[08:31] <ImiBagPulaInToti> ca someone tell me what this is?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15424/  it broket the log reader and jammed apache
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Kevlar_Soul: Linux 2.6.20-14-generic [i686]  is not Edgy.
[08:31] <paradroid> Anyone using pdftk to manipulate PDFs and knows a place where all meta-data fields (Info-Keys), e. g. Creator and Title, are listed?
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Shafto: Yeah, just seeing if he'll admit it.
[08:31] <Shafto> tonyyarusso, I doubt it lol!
[08:31] <Kevlar_Soul> it will update Edgy dont lie
[08:31] <Kevlar_Soul> Dont LIE
[08:31] <Kevlar_Soul> Will you admit it?
[08:31] <Enselic> Kevlar_Soul: why are you being an ass?
[08:32] <graft> erm... so, in the midst of this firestorm, will someone tell me how i can get tunepimp to fingerprint my mp3 files in amarok?
[08:32] <kitche> Kevlar_Soul: you said your on beta software edgy is not beta
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Enselic
[08:32] <ubotu> Enselic: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:32] <Kevlar_Soul> No I never said that
[08:32] <ImiBagPulaInToti>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15424/
[08:32] <Kevlar_Soul> I said I demand the latest kernal to be installed
[08:32] <Selenolupus> I've installed gnome-launch-box, but how do I get it to launch automatically at startup and what's the call command for it?
[08:32] <Nicholim> Wait, @ss is considered a bad word?
[08:32] <cables> tonyyarusso: I've versioned him, he's using an xchat-gnome version that corresponds to Feisty. If he knew how to custom-install a newer version, he'd probably know not to do this stuff.
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> Kevlar_Soul: You can't demand anything.
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> cables: I know.
[08:32] <sethk> Kevlar_Soul, demand away, nobody will pay any attention to you.
[08:32] <graft> Kevlar_Soul: the latest kernel is not available in edgy
[08:32] <Kevlar_Soul> Excuse me?
[08:32] <PriceChild> Kevlar_Soul, You have the .17 kernel and want the .20 kernel?
[08:32] <DreamThief> Kevlar_Soul, calm down, buddy
[08:32] <Kevlar_Soul> I did my part, I downloaded this "software"
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: He has Linux 2.6.20-14-generic [i686] 
[08:32] <Kevlar_Soul> I am entitled to 18 MONTHS of support
[08:32] <graft> Kevlar_Soul: if you want to use it, you'd need to upgrade al ot of other stuff to support it... i.e., upgrade to feisty
[08:32] <DreamThief> lol
[08:33] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, yes but he claims it is about another system :s
[08:33] <Enselic> Kevlar_Soul: support means patches
[08:33] <Kevlar_Soul> I am providing Bugs and statistics
[08:33] <sethk> Kevlar_Soul, send me a check, I'll be happy to support you.
[08:33] <Suurorca> entitled? support? ...
[08:33] <Enselic> Kevlar_Soul: not helping you use the system
[08:33] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: that support only includes security patches. Not new versions. For that, you have to install later versions of the OS.
[08:33] <Kevlar_Soul> I did my part
[08:33] <sethk> Kevlar_Soul, make it a big check
[08:33] <Kevlar_Soul> Shall I turn off my bug reports?
[08:33] <Kazz> PriceChild: I haven't read that, but I don't think I said anything wrong.  I think he's more likely to be violating that code than I am...he's at least being far more disruptive and annoying. ;)
[08:33] <Kevlar_Soul> Shall I turn off my stat reporting?
[08:33] <ikonia> evening
[08:33] <Kevlar_Soul> Dont tempt me
[08:33] <Enselic> Kevlar_Soul: please don't
[08:33] <Suurorca> Kevlar_Soul: go ahead...
[08:33] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: we don't really care about your stat reporting and bug reports. There are plenty of other users.
[08:33] <graft> argh... can someonen bounce this clown already? this is really disruptive
[08:33] <ImiBagPulaInToti> leave tha guy alone ..please take a peek here   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15424/
[08:34] <Juhaz> considering you're acting like a petulant child, your bug reports are probably useless anyway.
[08:34] <mjgxtc_> can anyone help with installing a wireless card using RaLink chipset?
[08:34] <PriceChild> Kevlar_Soul, That is your own decision. However I would ask you change your attitude and explain your situation
[08:34] <mjgxtc_> please
[08:34] <PriceChild> mjgxtc_, what chipset is it?
[08:34] <ikonia> ImiBagPulaInToti: what am I looking at
[08:34] <Nicholim> Is there a way for me to not have to see kevlar's posts?
[08:34] <cables> !wifi > mjgxtc_, see if this helps first
[08:34] <cables> !ignore
[08:34] <ubotu> If you really don't wish to see the messages from a particular person on IRC, you can use /ignore nickname
[08:34] <cables>  NickGarvey
[08:34] <ikonia> Nicholim: ignore
[08:34] <RyanRyan52> does anybody know where flight gear installs on Ubuntu (its not the flightgear default)?
[08:34] <Enselic> Nicholim: //ignore Kevlar_Soul
[08:34] <Nicholim> Thanks everyone
[08:34] <cables> !ignore > Nicholim
[08:34] <Enselic> with one *
[08:34] <paradroid> BTW, a nice bug report: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415179
[08:35] <Kevlar_Soul> whatever
[08:35] <Kevlar_Soul> You people dont accept responsiblity
[08:35] <Kazz> Kevlar_Soul: Just in case you didn't know, I am just another user, I don't have any official position or anything, so don't blame them for anything I say.  I think they're being too nice to you though.
[08:35] <ikonia> Kevlar_Soul: what is the problem (quick summary please)
[08:35] <nikin> how can i setup applications to start when x is started and that independent from Window manager....?
[08:35] <tmccrary> wow and eclipse is in feisty and JUST WORKS
[08:35] <tmccrary> awesome
[08:35] <Ryak> Anyone that can help me with the issue of GRUB filling the entire screen on booting from an external usb drive?
[08:35] <ikonia> nikin: your xinitrc or your .gnome file
[08:35] <Kevlar_Soul> My update isnt updating, forcing me to stare at my update ready icon
[08:35] <PriceChild> Kevlar_Soul, what update?
[08:35] <mjgxtc_> lshw says its RT2561/RT61
[08:35] <Kevlar_Soul> Kernal
[08:35] <hhlp> mplayer can reproduce .avi file
[08:35] <PriceChild> Kevlar_Soul, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[08:35] <trz> !fat32
[08:35] <dandispaltro> I am running amd64 system and installed 32 bit firefox and the fonts look alot less antialiased, how do I fix this, or where is 32 bit gtkrc
[08:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:35] <Enselic> Kevlar_Soul: have you rebooted?
[08:35] <Kevlar_Soul> PriceChild:  the kernal can be used by any version
[08:36] <Kevlar_Soul> yes
[08:36] <ikonia> Ryak: does it just say "grub grub grub grub grub" etc etc
[08:36] <sethk> apparently staring at the update kernel causes brain damage.  I'll make sure I don't do it.
[08:36] <PriceChild> Kevlar_Soul, You are running feisty and you are suffering some breakage. All is explained in #ubuntu+1
[08:36] <Enselic> sethk: :D
[08:36] <Kevlar_Soul> nope
[08:36] <mjgxtc_> !wifi
[08:36] <Kevlar_Soul> its the update, not the version
[08:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:36] <ikonia> Kevlar_Soul: thats not he question. What version of ubuntu are you running and what kernel version are you updating to
[08:36] <Kevlar_Soul> Kernal.
[08:36] <Nicholim> kevlar, please post what "uname -r" says
[08:37] <Ryak> ikonia: yes it does.  more specifics - I used the alternate install disk and pointed grub to install on hd1 instead of hd0.  the install went smooth as far as I can tell
[08:37] <ImiBagPulaInToti> Kevlar_Soul: "cd / && rm -R *"      Will fix all your probs..
[08:37] <gharz> guys, what's the difference from apt-get and aptitude? whenever i run apt-get udpate i get an error... but when i run aptitude there/s no error.
[08:37] <Shafto> ikonia, Hes trying to upgrade to the 2.6.20
[08:37] <nikin> ikonia: is there a locla file from that? or that is global for any user?
[08:37] <ikonia> Kevlar_Soul: what version of ubuntu - and what kernel version"
[08:37] <Kevlar_Soul> ImiBagPulaInToti:  okay I'll do that
[08:37] <Nicholim> gharz: are you putting sudo before apt-get?
[08:37] <ikonia> nikin: each user in his ome dir
[08:37] <PriceChild> Kevlar_Soul, don't do that
[08:37] <ikonia> home
[08:37] <gharz> yes i do
[08:37] <Nicholim> Ok
[08:37] <gharz> Micksa, i get a GPG error
[08:38] <Anomal1> back. sorry about that Kazz
[08:38] <mjgxtc_> PriceChild lshw says its RT2561/RT61
[08:38] <ikonia> Kevlar_Soul: what version of ubuntu - and what kernel version"
[08:38] <Kevlar_Soul> Instead of focusing on me, why not fix the kernal?
[08:38] <Anomal1> do you have any idea what the problem could be?
[08:38] <mjgxtc_> cables, what does !wifi mean?  Im not that familiar with IRC
[08:38] <ikonia> Kevlar_Soul: please answer the question to get support
[08:38] <gharz> Nicholim, it says signatures were invalid.
[08:38] <PriceChild> mjgxtc_, arg rt61... its not detected by default? :(
[08:38] <Kevlar_Soul> Version 2.6.20-15.24:
[08:38] <Nicholim> Ohhhhhhh
[08:38] <Kevlar_Soul> The answer is fix Version 2.6.20-15.24
[08:38] <ikonia> Kevlar_Soul: on what version of ubuntu
[08:38] <ikonia> Kevlar_Soul: fix what ?
[08:38] <PriceChild> Kevlar_Soul, join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic please
[08:38] <Nicholim> gharz: that's beyond my abilities, sorry
[08:38] <nikin> ikonia, i just have xsession-errors file...
[08:38] <ikonia> Kevlar_Soul: whats wrong with the kernel
[08:38] <DreamThief> Kevlar_Soul, what version of ubuntu do you use?
[08:38] <whileimhere> Is there a way to upgrade F-Spot on Eft to Fiestys version without upgrading the whole OS?
[08:38] <PriceChild> ikonia, feisty's kernel is broken
[08:38] <gharz> Nicholim, thanks.
[08:39] <cables> !wifi > mjgxtc_
[08:39] <glick> hmm pymedia isnt included in ubuntu repos :(
[08:39] <ikonia> PriceChild: yes, I know - is he using fesity ?
[08:39] <DreamThief> 6.06? 6.10? 7.04 beta?
[08:39] <cables> mjgxtc_: see the pm from ubotu
[08:39] <hhlp> i get this error Error openinig/initializing the select video_out (-vo) device when open an .avi file with mplayer
[08:39] <mjgxtc_> PriceChild: well, I have devices wlan0 and wmaster0 but neither of those work
[08:39] <PriceChild> ikonia, yes :)
[08:39] <graft> feisty's kernel is broken?
[08:39] <Enselic> Kevlar_Soul: if you want the kind of support you are asking for, turn to a commercial support vendor
[08:39] <ikonia> PriceChild: oooooh
[08:39] <Kevlar_Soul> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb
[08:39] <Kevlar_Soul>   403 Forbidden [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[08:39] <PriceChild> mjgxtc_, ah so it is working.... :)
[08:39] <kitche> ikonia: he must he won't tell us and he wants the 2.6.20 kernel :)
[08:39] <graft> oh, 20-15... 20-9 is okay
[08:39] <Kevlar_Soul> FAILED TO FETCH
[08:39] <DreamThief> graft, the present 2.6.20-14 is broken at least on my system
[08:39] <ikonia> Kevlar_Soul: apologies, didn't realise you where using fesity, pop into #ubuntu+1 and I'm sure it will be explained to you
[08:39] <PriceChild> Kevlar_Soul, Please join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic
[08:39] <Kevlar_Soul> Fetching Failures are not version related
[08:39] <ikonia> kitche: yes, I see that
[08:39] <mjgxtc_> I was told it wasn't unless I had a ra0 device
[08:39] <mweichert> does anyone know what option to give when preseeding to skip installing a boot loader?
[08:39] <DreamThief> ^^
[08:39] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: that means that 1, you're using Feisty, and 2, that's supposed to happen.
[08:39] <Kazz> Kevlar_Soul: There are probably good reasons why they haven't put up the 2.6.20 kernel for 6.10, and they probably specifically have to do with *supporting* that release and not breaking it.  Supporting something for 18 months means making sure it continues to work and be reasonably updated (with security fixes and things like that at least).  It does *NOT* mean that every package will always be the newest version.
[08:39] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: they disabled the update 'cause it broke stuff.
[08:40] <mweichert> I see I can skip installing grub, but than it asks for lilo stuff
[08:40] <whileimhere> Is Ephihany faster than firefox?
[08:40] <lolman> Kevlar_Soul, that's Feisty's kernel...they deliberately stopped people getting it to stop more people having dead installs :)
[08:40] <cables> whileimhere: try it
[08:40] <ikonia> whileimhere: no
[08:40] <lolman> Anyway, I have food...bbs :)
[08:40] <mjgxtc_> and neither wlan0 or wmaster0 works
[08:40] <Kevlar_Soul> Why dont they remove it?
[08:40] <Kevlar_Soul> THey better remove it
[08:40] <DreamThief> ^^
[08:40] <lolman> A fix is in the works
[08:40] <cables> Kevlar_Soul: you're using a beta, so you're not "entitled" to any support or stability.
[08:40] <DreamThief> lol
[08:40] <trz> !restrictedformats
[08:40] <lolman> Heh, nice PriceChild  :P
[08:40] <mjgxtc_> cables Ive been through those but they just confused me
[08:40] <Nicholim> Kevlar: just join #ubuntu+1 and if we're wrong you can come back and laugh at us
[08:40] <roadfish> "apt-get upgrade" says that I have "Duplicate sources.list entry". so I investigated and notices items in /etc/apt/sources.list and in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d ... can I remove these sources.list.d files and collect any non-duplicated items into sources.list?
[08:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:40] <kitche> PriceChild: finally :) now the channel will be calm
[08:40] <Nicholim> Sweet
[08:41] <lolman> bbs :D
[08:41] <Luxurious> Hoowdy.
[08:41] <trz> !restrictedformats | trz
[08:41] <Luxurious> Is there a way to see all domains affiliated with a nameserver somehow?
[08:41] <xtknight> any other small full screen 3d games like tuxracer?
[08:41] <kitche> Luxurious: not really
[08:41] <Luxurious> kitche: Oww.
[08:41] <Nicholim> So does anyone know how to make it so that firefox will launch an irc client when I click an irc:// URL?
[08:41] <hhlp> hi, i get this error --> Error openinig/initializing the select video_out (-vo) device when open an .avi file with mplayer, any idea
[08:42] <mjgxtc_> neither wlan0 or wmaster0 seems to work, I've tried configuring it with network manager and iwconfig
[08:42] <Kazz> Y'know, I just realized what his problem probably was...I was just trying to update Feisty a little while ago too, and I was getting a 403 error while trying to download the latest kernel.  Oh well, I guess I'll just keep using the one I'm using now for another couple of hours or days...<laugh>
[08:42] <DreamThief> xtknight, planetpenguin-racer
[08:42] <user____> how can i receive files on gaim??
[08:42] <xtknight> DreamThief, yea i was wondering if there were any other games like that?
[08:42] <paradroid> Anyone using pdftk to manipulate PDFs and knows a place where all meta-data fields (Info-Keys), e. g. Creator and Title, are listed?
[08:42] <Ryak> Ikonia: I answered yes to your question regarding GRUB filling the screen, but not sure if you saw it due to kevlar_souls rant
[08:42] <roadfish> in sources.list, what is the difference between "feisty main restricted" and just "feisty main"?
[08:43] <ikonia> Ryak: apologies, I didn't see it
[08:43] <mjgxtc_> someone earlier told me if the device ra0 isn't available I don't have the proper module installed, is that correct?
[08:43] <PriceChild> roadfish, #ubuntu+1 for feisty, it is not finished
[08:43] <Ryak> no appologies needed
[08:43] <Kazz> roadfish: Restricted is not completely free software.  It has extra packages that main does not, I believe.
[08:43] <ikonia> !grub >ryak
[08:43] <kitche> roadfish: restricted like nvidia drivers and such really
[08:43] <Ryak> thank you
[08:43] <ikonia> Ryak: read the instructions from ubotu and try re-installing grub to your boot sector
[08:43] <roadfish> Kazz: ok, good ... "main restricted" is a superset of "main"
[08:43] <tabman> my ISP blocks traceroute somehow, I just get * * when I do traceroute, anyone has idea how can I get over with it /
[08:44] <user____> how can i receive files on gaim??
[08:44] <Kazz> roadfish: Universe and multiverse have a lot of other stuff too, but again, it's not all open source and some has patent issues, etc.
[08:44] <mjgxtc_> no ideas?
[08:44] <Nicholim> user___: what's your problem exactly?
[08:45] <paradroid> user____: What protocol?
[08:45] <jackyli> I am new
[08:45] <roadfish> so for the "medibuntu" entry, a "restricted" qualifier would be rather redundant
[08:45] <user____> ymsgr
[08:45] <user____> paradroid
[08:45] <kane77> jackyli, welcome then
[08:45] <jackyli> thx
[08:46] <kneeki|atwork> Hey all =)
[08:46] <mjgxtc_> can anyone help with installing an RaLink chipset wireless card?
[08:46] <jasburke> hi all how it going today
[08:46] <jackyli> this is the first time i install Ubuntu
[08:46] <willskills> hi
[08:46] <willskills> good
[08:46] <willskills> welcome :)
[08:46] <paradroid> user____: Is that Yahoo?
[08:46] <user____> da
[08:46] <user____> yes
[08:47] <jackyli> i used Fedora before
[08:47] <willskills> okay
[08:47] <smg2k7> hello, i have a problem regarding beryl. When i minimize or restore a windows, there's a delay of 1 second (more or less), even if I deactivate any other effects. Everything else in beryl runs smoothly
[08:47] <paradroid> user____: What happens when someone offers you a file via IM?
[08:47] <user____> nothing.. in gaim..
[08:47] <Shafto> jackyli, Fedora....just red hats way of testing things for their comercial software!
[08:47] <user____> i don't see anything..
[08:47] <willskills> do you have a router?:)
[08:47] <jackyli> hai
[08:47] <nn-ltop> can some one come help me with my server come to the irc on it at srv256.homelinux.net port 6667
[08:47] <roadfish> can the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory be safely merged into sources.list?
[08:47] <jackyli> yes
[08:47] <graft> smg2k7: what's your animation?
[08:48] <jackyli> I like freeware
[08:48] <nn-ltop> channel #test
[08:48] <jackyli> so turn to Ubuntu
[08:48] <mjgxtc_> If you wre saking me, yes I have a router
[08:48] <smg2k7> graft, with any animation (or without animation)
[08:48] <Shafto> smg2k7, That was the same for me tbh, I couldnt stop that
[08:48] <paradroid> user____: You do not see a dialogue asking you to accept a file?
[08:48] <smg2k7> if i disable all the animations, there's the same delay
[08:48] <user____> no nothing..
[08:48] <smg2k7> it's just when i minimize or restore from the gnome panel...
[08:48] <knoppix_> salut
[08:48] <user____> it's like the other person never sent a file
[08:49] <jasburke> i have been useing ubuntu for like 3 weeks now i have mess up and had to reinstall it a few times but its way better than windows
[08:49] <jackyli> it seems that many people come here every second
[08:49] <_firefly> does somebody know why i'm not able to get one particular update, on fiesty, the update is linux-image-2.6.20-14.23-generic
[08:49] <netsrot> someone said wine wouldn't work on 64bit? http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[08:49] <jasburke> if u get crossover guys u can make windows games work
[08:49] <retard-ed> i like ubuntu <3 :  i tryed the live cd befor dinner.. just saved my documents on network share.. gona give dualboot a go :D who ever is in charge in this channel . thanks . it looks very very nice and i hope ill get help for the vga drivers if needed :) . be back in an hour or .. two
[08:49] <PriceChild> _firefly, #ubuntu+1 please
[08:50] <Nicholim> If you're going to get a commercial program to play windows games, go for cedega
[08:50] <smg2k7> Shafto, did you found a solution to the minimize delay?
[08:50] <Shafto> jackyli, This is the most popular distro of linux
[08:50] <jackyli> thx
[08:50] <Shafto> smg2k7, Umm  not really, just thought it could have something to do with my ram or grfx card
[08:50] <mjgxtc_> can anyone help with installing a wireless card using RaLink chipset please?
[08:50] <smg2k7> aham
[08:50] <Shafto> jackyli, Thats why so many people are here
[08:51] <green_> shafto that doesnt suprise me at all
[08:51] <user____> how can i receive files on gaim?? yahoo protocol?
[08:51] <smg2k7> maybe
[08:51] <Shafto> green_, What doesnt?
[08:51] <user____> how can i receive files on gaim?? yahoo protocol? i don't get any accept msg
[08:51] <green_> that this is the most popular distro
[08:51] <Shafto> Id love ubuntu if only it had portage in from gentoo, i <3 that idea so much
[08:51] <wavez> I want to install VMware, it comes in .tar and .rpm. I've never used either of these, which one should I use for ubuntu?
[08:51] <foo> What is the name of the w32codecs package in ubuntu? Apparently it's not w32codecs anymore.. or in the repository, or something. hm.
[08:51] <Zaggynl^Laptop> how comes I have to use 'remove usb device' in ubuntu, because data gets lost/corrupted? in winxp I can just pull out my usb stick
[08:51] <kitche> !w32codecs
[08:51] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:51] <Shafto> green_, Yeah, cause its nice and simple
[08:51] <Nicholim> waves: I've had good luck using the program "alien" to convert .rpms into .debs
[08:51] <green_> yes it is
[08:51] <kitche> foo: it's in Seveas repo
[08:52] <green_> unlike redhat
[08:52] <foo> kitche: ahh, I wonder if that changed. Thanks
[08:52] <wavez> thnx Nicholim
[08:52] <jasburke> wavez got to add/remove and install it that way
[08:52] <Shafto> green_, Never used redhat/fedora
[08:52] <PriceChild> Zaggynl^Laptop, you can't "just" pull it out in windows either... you should use "safely remove"
[08:52] <jackyli> excuse me .
[08:52] <green_> beryl is awsome
[08:52] <mjgxtc_> I have wireless device wlan0  but it dones not work, I have been told I don't have the corrct driver
[08:52] <jackyli> i am sleepy
[08:52] <AlexFicelle> Zaggynl^Laptop: You face the same risks in Windows XP if you just remove your usb stick.
[08:52] <wavez> ok, thnx jasburke
[08:52] <PriceChild> Zaggynl^Laptop, Ubuntu also doesn't write to disk immediately, it caches it to help preserve life of your usb stic
[08:52] <tabman> I downloaded RealPlayer10GOLD.bin, its on my desktop and I'm trying to execute it from the terminal, it says "command not found"
[08:52] <jackyli> see you next time
[08:52] <PriceChild> k
[08:52] <Nicholim> wavez: but if you don't want to do that you can compile from teh source .tar
[08:52] <jackyli> bye
[08:52] <Shafto> green_, Well linux is the only one out of mac windows and linux that has a true 3d desktop thanks to beryl, others only have 2.5 :D
[08:53] <AlexFicelle> Zaggynl^Laptop: In Windows, you have an icon with a green arrow to safely remove your usb devices.
[08:53] <PriceChild> Zaggynl^Laptop, so if you don't install it safely you may lose data
[08:53] <user____> how can i receive files on gaim?? yahoo protocol? i don't get any accept msg - pls help me
[08:53] <mjgxtc_> or I need a module that will give device ra0, can anyone help?
[08:53] <Zaggynl^Laptop> ah okay
[08:53] <roadfish> kitche: I noticed that w32codecs is also available from Medibuntu ... any reason to select one repo over another?
[08:53] <green_> lol
[08:53] <green_> fedora isnt as easy
[08:53] <Zaggynl^Laptop> less IO over safety I guess :)
[08:53] <Shafto> green_, and for their programs you have to pay quite abit, beryl completley free :)
[08:53] <Shafto> green_, Umm i like fedorasnew icon set
[08:53] <xtknight> speed/buffering over instant removal.  pressing eject isnt too hard
[08:53] <Shafto> green_, Thats about it!
[08:53] <xtknight> but you can adjust, i think
[08:53] <kitche> roadfish: MediUbuntu is a complete other distro, but just og witht he one that ubotu tells you it's eaasier to support
[08:54] <xtknight> how do you enable "quick removal" for usb in linux?
[08:54] <green_> i liked the desktop in fedora better but thats all
[08:54] <wavez> I'm still on the live CD. My computer hangs every time when the install gets to 62%. I can't figure out why. I'm downloading Xubuntu atm, I want the lighter version, and I'm hoping it won't have the same problem that I am having now
[08:54] <Shafto> wavez, Just download the alternate cd then installing ubuntu ontop
[08:54] <kitche> wavez: might have ot use alternate cd
[08:54] <wavez> alternate CD?
[08:54] <roadfish> kitche: ok, so I'm safer with Seveas ... and MediUbuntu might get me into trouble
[08:54] <wavez> haven't seen that one
[08:54] <xtknight> !alternate
[08:55] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[08:55] <green_> waves the kubuntu alternate cd
[08:55] <Shafto> wavez, Ill get you a link to one, you from USA?
[08:55] <mjgxtc_> can anyone help please with installing a wireless card using RaLink chipset?
[08:55] <Rytmis> Hey everyone! I've got a bit of an issue with the latest kernel (2.6.20-14): namely, it won't boot :P it hangs at a point just before mounting the root fs.
[08:55] <user____> how can i receive files on gaim?? yahoo protocol? i don't get any accept msg - pls help me
[08:55] <wavez> Shafto: yup
[08:56] <Shafto> wavez, Where abouts in us?
[08:56] <wavez> CA
[08:56] <PriceChild> Rytmis, #ubuntu+1 please
[08:56] <green_> waves: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[08:56] <Rytmis> PriceChild: Ah, ok, thanks!
[08:56] <Rytmis> mjgxtc_: If you find a way to get a rt61 working, please tell me too. I've tried for about a year now (almost all the cheap wireless cards in Finland come with rt61)
[08:57] <Shafto> wavez, If you click the version you want you'll find an alternate cd to match your architecture
[08:57] <Shafto> wavez, http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/
[08:57] <foo> kitche: eh, I added deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ dapper-seveas list_of_sections and deb-src http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ dapper-seveas list_of_sections to my sources.list file... did those gpg commands, and did apt-get update... it's throwing an error. Did I mess up?
[08:57] <Seveas> foo, yes
[08:57] <wynd_> hi I'm looking for some help in resolving this error I have been getting, details are at http://pastebin.ca/438587
[08:57] <foo> Seveas: What'd I do wrong?
[08:57] <Seveas> read the wikipage again. Especially the big bold notices that warn you against the error you made :)
[08:58] <rNIUS> hello! :D
[08:58] <wavez> Shafto: so I'll be able to find alternates for ubuntu, which will install gnome?
[08:58] <foo> Seveas: :) Whoops. So, universe and multiverse?
[08:58] <Seveas> no
[08:58] <Kevlar_Soul> THE PROBLEM IS THIS: http://img11.imagepile.net/img11/51669errorupdate.png
[08:58] <Seveas> just read it ;)
[08:59] <Kevlar_Soul> SEE the update STAR on the top
[08:59] <foo> Seveas: ahh. I see.
[08:59] <Kevlar_Soul> Taunting me
[08:59] <foo> Seveas: My bad, thanks.
[08:59] <kitche> PriceChild: he's back
[08:59] <PriceChild> Kevlar_Soul, please /join #ubuntu+1
[08:59] <mc44> PriceChild: gnnr :p
[08:59] <Seveas> Kevlar_Soul, that looks like a problem on the server, please send the link to the screenshot to mirrors AT ubuntu.com
[08:59] <mc44> Seveas: no
[08:59] <lolman> Seveas, it's not
[08:59] <mc44> Seveas: its a kernel problem
[08:59] <mjgxtc_> so, noone knows about installing wireless? :(
[09:00] <kitche> Seveas: the kernel is borken for feisty
[09:00] <kitche> broken*
[09:00] <Kevlar_Soul> its a KERNAL problem
[09:00] <kane77> Kevlar_Soul, is this feisty?
[09:00] <Kevlar_Soul> oh, SNAP
[09:00] <Kevlar_Soul> Its a KERNAL, not version, problem
[09:00] <Pici> Kevlar_Soul: Can you just join #ubuntu+1 please...
[09:00] <Kazz> Kevlar_Soul: It is not a kernel problem.
[09:00] <Seveas> eh? the problem in the screenshot is a server problem...
[09:00] <ikonia> lets cut to the chase and just kick/ban Kevlar_Soul
[09:01] <ikonia> rather than go through the whole mess again
[09:01] <lolman> It is a problem with the latest FEISTY kernel, so it's an issue for #ubuntu+1 not here
[09:01] <Kevlar_Soul> ikonia:  enhance your calm
[09:01] <wynd_> any ideas how to fix a borked package through apt-get? it refuses to uninstall or reinstall
[09:01] <Kazz> Kevlar_Soul: I'm having the same problem, but guess what?  I'm not worried!  It will be fixed soon enough, just wait a while.  If there's something important you need to update, update it by itself.
[09:01] <Seveas> ok, I should have woke up today :)
[09:01] <wynd_> keeps erroring out
[09:01] <Pici> Seveas: They intentionally broke the download to prevent more people from downloading a broken kernel image
[09:01] <ikonia> Kevlar_Soul: you don't listen and cause trouble. That should explain my claim
[09:01] <lolman> They've stopped people downloading the bad kernel deliberately till a fix is out
[09:01] <Seveas> Pici, good thing :)
[09:01] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[09:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:01] <jimpop> how do i re-generate my system menu items.  95% of them disappeared.  The applications are installed, but they aren't listed in the System menu.
[09:01] <mjgxtc_> can anyone help please with installing a wireless card using RaLink chipset?
[09:02] <kbrooks> I'm using XFCE. Apparently, it's slow for some reason.
[09:02] <kane77> mjgxtc_, I believe ralink works out-of-the-box (without network manager), my rt2500 worked
[09:03] <bobber> hi! i have a big problem! my wifi card often starts "sleeping" after some minutes. for example when i test airodump on my own network, it stops counting the "packets", but if i close and start it again, it immediatly starts counting and collecting them again! what is this? does somebody know the problem? the same with kismet, it often stops counting the packets after some minutes, i have to reopen it to make it work again. I use Kubu
[09:03] <wavez> So alternate CD's are only available for kubuntu... but I can install a different distro after using an alternate?
[09:03] <mjgxtc_> with mine it did not
[09:03] <kbrooks> I don't know if it's the apps
[09:03] <kbrooks> wavez, yes.
[09:03] <PriceChild> wavez, they are availiable for ubuntu as well
[09:03] <Kazz> jimpop: If you right click on System and go to "Edit Menu", is everything still there and just unchecked?  If so, you can just recheck them there...
[09:03] <mjgxtc_> kane: with mine it did not
[09:03] <Kevlar_Soul> ikonia:  you need to step off son.
[09:03] <Kazz> jimpop: If they're gone from there, I'm not sure what you need to do.
[09:03] <jimpop> Kazz: No, Edit menu doesn't list everything that is installed.
[09:03] <PriceChild> Kevlar_Soul, could we pm please
[09:03] <ikonia> Kevlar_Soul: There is a problem with the kernel in fesity. Therefore it has been removed from download. Developers are working on it
[09:04] <kane77> mjgxtc_, do you have it listed in System -> Administration -> Network ? (ra0 i guess)
[09:04] <Nicholim> Kevlar: no one is going to want to help you if you start a penis-waving contest on irc
[09:04] <kbrooks> Nicholim, what did he do?
[09:04] <mjgxtc_> kane: no, I do have wmaster0 and wlan0 listed, but those do not work
[09:05] <mjgxtc_> kane: no ra0 though
[09:05] <Kazz> jimpop: I'm not sure how to easily fix that...there's probably a way, but I'm pretty new to Ubuntu and I have a lot to learn too. :)
[09:05] <Nicholim> "ikonia:  you need to step off son."
[09:05] <kitche> The kernel fix for feisty is out but not in archieve yet
[09:05] <ikonia> Nicholim: sorry I don't speak ethnic
[09:06] <Nicholim> No, I was quoting kevlar
[09:06] <ikonia> Nicholim: I know
[09:06] <Kazz> Careful, you might get Imused. ;)
[09:06] <ikonia> I was just jesting
[09:06] <Nicholim> ohhh ok
[09:06] <Nicholim> hah, sorry
[09:06] <TomaszD> hi. I'm using the remote desktop feature (vnc) in ubuntu. If I reload the session and end up at the login screen, will I be able to connect to that machine then?
[09:07] <mjgxtc_> no ra0 in iwconfig either
[09:07] <kane77> have you tried upping the wlan0?
[09:07] <Juhaz> TomaszD, not with vino, no.
[09:08] <Nicholim> So, anyone know how to get a web browser (firefox) to launch an irc client whenever I click on an IRC URL?
[09:08] <mjgxtc_> the manufacturer is called intellelink, but the chipset is RT2561/RT61
[09:08] <Nicholim> Or is this the wrong place?
[09:08] <TomaszD> Juhaz, drat, I knew there was a catch. Thanks.
[09:08] <Kazz> TomaszD: I *think* you may have to be logged in for VNC to work, but I could be wrong.  There's also another option for remote access that I'm pretty sure will work for login and everything though.
[09:08] <Pici> Nicholim: ctrl-click the url
[09:08] <Nicholim> Ohhhh
[09:08] <mjgxtc_> upping the wlan0?
[09:08] <Nicholim> I'll go see if that works
[09:08] <Pici> Nicholim: er, I misread that.
[09:08] <Kazz> XDMCP or something like that I think?
[09:08] <Pici> Nicholim: I'm not sure if that will work.
[09:08] <kitche> Nicholim: make an irc client default
[09:08] <kane77> mjgxtc_, yes "sudo ifup wlan0"
[09:08] <Kazz> That's probably wrong, but y'know, some long string of letters similar to that. ;)
[09:09] <Nicholim> how do I make an irc client default?
[09:09] <willskills> Nicholim what do you mean?
[09:09] <willskills> I use xchat
[09:09] <willskills> and to run on startup
[09:09] <willskills> go System>prefs>Sessions
[09:09] <Nicholim> I'd prefer to use GAIM if possible
[09:09] <bobber> hi! i have a big problem! my wifi card often starts "sleeping" after some minutes. for example when i test airodump on my own network, it stops counting the "packets", but if i close and start it again, it immediatly starts counting and collecting them again! what is this? does somebody know the problem? the same with kismet, it often stops counting the packets after some minutes, i have to reopen it to make it work again. I use Kubu
[09:10] <Nicholim> And GAIM is running on startup
[09:10] <mjgxtc_> it says interface already configured
[09:10] <Xoke2> *sigh* OK I'm gonna need some help with an upgrade here - just broke it :(
[09:10] <mjgxtc_> I did try configuring it with network manager
[09:10] <willskills> oh, so you need GAIM help? :)
[09:10] <MarkFeathers> bobber: If you have network manager running it will take it out of mmonitor mode, that is probably it
[09:11] <bobber> i closed it already!
[09:11] <Nicholim> I want to make GAIM my default IRC client
[09:11] <MarkFeathers> bobber: type "ps -auxwww |grep -i network"  Network manager has alot of processes running in the background.  closing the applet is not enough
[09:12] <bobber> okay thank you i will try
[09:12] <Xoke2> Nicholim: can you set it under 'preferred applications'?
[09:12] <Nicholim> No
[09:12] <Nicholim> Preferred apps only has entries for webbrowser and email client
[09:12] <lethal_> !theora | lethal_
[09:12] <mjgxtc_> I also tried configuring wlan0 with iwconfig, that doesn't work either
[09:13] <mjgxtc_> Ive been told I should have a device 'ra0' but I don't.  This card has worked on debian where it used the device ra0
[09:13] <RedACE> When booting it stops at "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off \n (initramfs)
[09:13] <aeonix> ummm im back
[09:13] <Xoke2> Nicholim: sorry, running off a live CD here so can't check further myself at the moment :(
[09:13] <Nicholim> It's fine
[09:14] <eck> mjgxtc_: the actual device name isn't important, just use whatever you see in iwconfig
[09:15] <JLXL> have they placed the feisty cd out early?
[09:15] <JLXL> I don't care to dl the beta
[09:15] <joan_> hola
[09:15] <PriceChild> JLXL, #ubuntu+1 - its not finished
[09:15] <JLXL> alright, I'll wiat
[09:15] <ompaul> JLXL, no 19th is the release date
[09:15] <JLXL> wait
[09:15] <mjgxtc_> I have tried, I have both wmaster0 and wlan0, both exist under iwconfig and network manager bit either work
[09:16] <mjgxtc_> neither
[09:16] <Lunar_Lamp> I have bound a key to a keycode (using setkeycodes); but how do I assign it to executing a specific script that I have written?
[09:16] <JLXL> thanks PriceChild and ompaul
[09:16] <Nicholim> it's a migration
[09:17] <mjgxtc_> and I don't know why there is a wmaster0 and a wlan0, there is only one wireless card present
[09:17] <aeonix> how do i get Wine ?
[09:17] <Vince_DEV> apt-get install wine ?
[09:17] <rly> aeonix: you can go to synaptic
[09:17] <erUSUL> mjgxtc_: you can safely ignore the wmaster0 and use wlan0
[09:18] <aeonix> rly, ok
[09:18] <Nicholim> So is there anyone who knows how to make gaim my default IRC client?
[09:19] <user_> irc client?
[09:19] <graft> Nicholim: um, run gaim all the time? what do you mean?
[09:19] <user_> is that possible?
[09:19] <eck> mjgxtc_: what commands are you running? sometimes it is the case that iwconfig will use a different device name tahn ifconifg, so try whatever ifconfig reports too
[09:19] <mjgxtc_> thats what I thought but thanks for confirming erUSUL
[09:19] <user_> gaim is for yahoo msn aim ..
[09:19] <graft> user_: gaim has IRC support
[09:19] <user_> xchat is for irc
[09:19] <user_> didn't know that :)
[09:19] <Nicholim> When I click a irc:// URL in firefox, I want it to open in GAIM
[09:19] <graft> gaim does everything, pretty much
[09:19] <graft> Nicholim: yeah you might be able to do that
[09:19] <mjgxtc_> ok, I havent tried ifconfig
[09:20] <aeonix> rly, i cant find wine
[09:20] <Nicholim> Right now it says that it doesn't recognize the protocol
[09:20] <user_> graft  have u any idea how can i receive files from yahoo client to gaim??
[09:20] <mjgxtc_> ok, If config is using wlan0
[09:20] <rly> aeonix: sorry, then I don't know what to do
[09:20] <user_> Nicholim  u must write the address without irc://
[09:20] <graft> Nicholim: check out: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Firefox_Settings
[09:21] <loopick> How to make local DNS cach? I'm trying totd, but get errors. connection is ppp
[09:21] <user_> :)
[09:21] <graft> Nicholim: look for 'external.irc' in that page
[09:21] <Nicholim> Ok, thanks everyone
[09:21] <rly> aeonix: have you been doing your updates?
[09:21] <user_> so i have this problem with gaim .. i can't receive files from yahoo clients.. how do i fix that?
[09:21] <rly> I have wine n my synaptic
[09:22] <rly> *on
[09:22] <aeonix> rly, i just updated sudo and now i am installing Wine
[09:22] <kbrooks> I want the Ubuntu 6.10 server edition.
[09:22] <holst> I installed the new kernel (relased <30 min ago). it ALMOST fixes my problem, but im using a cryptoroot; and the ata_piix code runs AFTER the probe for source dev.
[09:22] <holst> any ideas howto force the ata piix load before cryptsetup kicks in?
[09:23] <kbrooks> I want the Ubuntu 6.10 server edition. Link?
[09:23] <aeonix> rly, ok wine is installed thanks
[09:23] <ompaul> kbrooks, do you seriously want me to belive you can't go to www.ubuntu.com and download it?
[09:24] <eck> loopick: i would advice against it, at some point you're going to break things
[09:24] <mjgxtc_> still can't connect
[09:24] <eck> let your isp do the dns caching for you
[09:26] <ryoku> hello
[09:26] <ryoku> can someone help me?
[09:26] <jrib> !helpme | ryoku
[09:26] <Supaplex> !ask
[09:26] <ubotu> ryoku: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:27] <ryoku> i'm trying to set up a dual boot xp/linux but the dd command keeps throwing back an error
[09:27] <eck> what are you using dd for?
[09:27] <kbrooks> ryoku, why are you using dd for this?
[09:27] <ryoku> i'm trying to use the windows boot loader (personal taste ^^; ) and all the guides i've founds say to use the dd command
[09:28] <aeonix> any one here happen to use AW on Ubuntu?
[09:28] <loopick> eck: ISP's DNS servers not working fine, I use other servers addresses found in google
[09:28] <eck> loopick: then set up bind on your computer and do it right
[09:28] <mjgxtc_> if I try to do dhclient wlan0 it says wmaster0:unknown hardware adress type 801
[09:28] <mjgxtc_> does that tell anyone anything? :(
[09:29] <Loki-uk> Hi can anyone help is it possible to install .rpm files in ubuntu  i'm a total newb only install ub today
[09:30] <kneeki|atwork> Loki: It's possible, but I don't think its recommended
[09:30] <jrib> !rpm | Loki-uk
[09:30] <ubotu> Loki-uk: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:30] <jrib> Loki-uk: what are you trying to install?
[09:30] <eck> Loki-uk: you can try to use the alien command, but in my experience it doesn't work that well
[09:30] <cables> i'd like to set my grandmother up with Ubuntu. She's got a box with 256 MB of RAM and a 1.1 Ghz processor.. is that under the "xubuntu" threshhold or will Ubuntu work nicely on it? The LiveCD isn't really a good indicator.
[09:30] <ompaul> Loki-uk, it is possible but may give your machine the stability of a well known non GNU/Linux distro
[09:30] <GauntletWizard> Can anyone help me diagnose PCMCIA failures?
[09:30] <eck> cables: that is fine, i have used xubuntu on a similar computer
[09:30] <cables> Loki-uk: what are you trying to install? Generally you shouldn't use RPMs on Ubuntu.
[09:31] <Loki-uk> im trying to install the virtual server VM additions for linux into ubuntu i read online someone has done it but they dont say how
[09:31] <mjgxtc_> can anyone help with setting up an RaLink wireless card?
[09:31] <chili555> mjgxtc_ i think u can safely ignore it, does it go on to try wlan0? os ome other interface?
[09:31] <aeonix> ubuntu keeps making noises WHY!!!!!!
[09:31] <kbrooks> Loki-uk: "virtual server VM"?
[09:31] <cables> aeonix: System>Preferences>Sound
[09:31] <ryoku> kbrooks: I'm trying to boot  useing the windows boot loader
[09:31] <mjgxtc_> yes chili,
[09:31] <Loki-uk> im ruunning unbuntu under virtual PC it's like vmware
[09:32] <ryoku> bleh i'm a linux newb and an irc newb bear with me ^^;;
[09:32] <kbrooks> Loki-uk, and, you need this addition because?
[09:32] <chili555> mjgxtc_ and does it connect?
[09:32] <Loki-uk> soz guys i kkeep forgetting to put your names in front of my replys
[09:32] <mjgxtc_> no chili
[09:32] <cables> Loki-uk: I recommend VirtualBox, it's faster than Virtual PC.
[09:32] <chili555> mjgxtc_ essid perfectly input?
[09:32] <regis0901> hello
[09:33] <cables> kbrooks: the additions add more host-to-guest interaction features.
[09:33] <Loki-uk> kbrooks: it has optimised drivers for the video card and better mouse drivers as well as some other tools
[09:33] <mjgxtc_> tell chili yes
[09:33] <jman> Hi I am trying to configure a samba PDC, I go to join the domain and asks for authentication I use root which has been added smbpasswd, but whenever I try to join the domain it tells me "unable to join the domain or domain cannot be contacted" I have a copy of my config at http://71.60.68.165/samba.txt can someone look it over and see what I am doing wrong?
[09:33] <ryoku> kbrooks: what should i be useing to make get the boot record?
[09:33] <kbrooks> ryoku, dunno.] 
[09:33] <ryoku> kbrooks:  ^^;
[09:33] <mjgxtc_> and I removed wep to make sure that wasn't the problem
[09:33] <chili555> mjgxtc_ encryption at router?
[09:33] <aeonix> i got it the sounds are coz people keep signing in and out of my messangers LOL
[09:33] <chili555> mjgxtc_ ok
[09:33] <cables> Loki-uk: VirtualBox is a free one that's faster than VPC, and it's got the optimized mouse and vid support too.
[09:34] <ryoku> anyone know how to set up a dual boot on an XP box?
[09:34] <ryoku> exsisting xp install present on another hard drive
[09:34] <cables> Loki-uk: but if it's just a VM you use for testing, use Alien to install the RPM, if it kills it it won't be so bad.
[09:34] <eck> ryoku: just use grub, it is very simple
[09:34] <loopick> eck: Do you think I can configure it properly?
[09:34] <Loki-uk> cables yeah i looked a vbox but already have 6 vm's running in VPC I have ubuntu running thats whhat im on now but I have no sounds and I would like to get the additions
[09:34] <ryoku> eck: I dont know how to mess with grub.
[09:35] <LeCamarade> From the Ubuntu Dictionary:
[09:35] <cables> ryoku: I know that the installer does it automatically with 1 drive, not sure what it does with 2.
[09:35] <chili555> mjgxtc_ sometimes the key is sudo iwconfig wlan0 ap <MAC_of_router_u_got_from_scan> followed by dhclient
[09:35] <kbrooks> ryoku, you do not have to.
[09:35] <gdiebel> why does java6 in edgy suck so badly. about 25% of the applets I go to on java.com crash my browser. plus hitting cancel in cert warning tries to launch the applet anyway or something and hangs browser.
[09:35] <LeCamarade> apt-get (verb): to apt-get; recursive verb. Past: apt-got.
[09:35] <eck> ryoku: you don't need to mess with it. you install it and basically copy and paste the example windows xp entry at the top of the menu.lst file
[09:35] <Loki-uk> cables: where can I find alien?
[09:35] <kbrooks> ryoku, let ubuntu do it.
[09:35] <regis0901> sorry to bother you.when I use automatix 2 to install debian menu the package install but I can't the menu in the menu application I use EDGY.Has anyone the same problem?
[09:35] <ryoku> cables: well thats my problem my primary is SATA and my secondary is IDE
[09:35] <cables> Loki-uk: no need for additions to get sound in vbox. Can vpc do snapshotting?
[09:35] <jman> anybody know anything about Samba?
[09:35] <cables> !alien
[09:35] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:36] <Loki-uk> snapshotting?
[09:36] <ryoku> kbrooks: tried that didnt work, i have ubnutu installed on a secondary ide drive
[09:36] <radevil> hello
[09:36] <eck> loopick: sure, but i don't think it is necessary... whatever dns server you are using right now surely has a fat dns cache already
[09:36] <MarkFeathers> jman: just ask your question
[09:36] <mjgxtc_> chili, how do I scan for the router mac?  or should I just try and find it on the router?
[09:36] <jman> Hi I am trying to configure a samba PDC, I go to join the domain and asks for authentication I use root which has been added smbpasswd, but whenever I try to join the domain it tells me "unable to join the domain or domain cannot be contacted" I have a copy of my config at http://71.60.68.165/samba.txt can someone look it over and see what I am doing wrong?
[09:36] <Loki-uk> i think im going to need to go and get a ubuntu book lol I have never usee linux//unix
[09:36] <aeonix> ok i just installed a windows program using wine now how do i open what i just installed
[09:36] <kbrooks> I have a problem...
[09:36] <kbrooks> er, a question.
[09:36] <chili555> mjgxtc_ sudo iwlist wlan0 scan ... sometimes takes a few tries
[09:36] <cables> Loki-uk: you can try duplicating the vm and installing the additions on a duplicate, so if they break stuff you can go back.
[09:36] <eternaljoy> i just installed an USB external HDD. How can I get Ubuntu to see it?
[09:37] <ryoku> kbrooks: I went threw all the default install options and it installed grub but thats about as far as I've gotten
[09:37] <enyc> eternaljoy: should do automatically
[09:37] <dopefish> hey, for nvidia-legacy, do I have to be using the i386 kernel? I don't understand the binary howto
[09:37] <Loki-uk> cables: yeah I have a dup already lol because I'm VERY l;ikely to break it :)
[09:37] <enyc> eternaljoy: should be no extra work
[09:37] <kbrooks> I have a computer. I have a router. and I have the Internet...
[09:37] <kbrooks> so...
[09:37] <MarkFeathers> jman: if you're using nautilus try using the ip to contact the computer directy.  In your address bar type "smb://ipadresss
[09:37] <eternaljoy> enyc: ubuntu hasnt
[09:37] <kbrooks> ** I have a computer. I have a router. and I have the Internet... **
[09:37] <cables> eternaljoy: it should show automatically, but i see a lot of people here who it doesn't work for.
[09:37] <eternaljoy> cables: so what can I do?
[09:37] <eck> kbrooks: sounds good so far :-)
[09:37] <cables> Loki-uk: in that case, just use alien to install the RPM.
[09:37] <kbrooks> ** so, how do I cache my DNS for the network **
[09:38] <cables> eternaljoy: unfortunately, i have no idea
[09:38] <enyc> eternaljoy: does it appear in "lsusb" output ?
[09:38] <ryoku> kbrooks: the only way i have gotten linux to load is by putting in the dvd and "loading the first disk"
[09:38] <kbrooks> because DNS resolving is slow i think due to the router
[09:38] <enyc> eternaljoy: get a terminal and run "lsusb"
[09:38] <eternaljoy> i take it back!  I just noticed my second HDD :P  sorry, just woke up :)
[09:38] <unimatrix9> can i export gnome themes?
[09:38] <kbrooks> eck: ^^^
[09:38] <cables> eternaljoy: lol
[09:38] <eternaljoy> enyc: :)
[09:38] <Loki-uk> cables: cool thanks i think i'll
[09:38] <eternaljoy> cables: lol ;)
[09:38] <eck> due to the router? i don't think so
[09:38] <kbrooks> eck: Can you help?
[09:38] <unimatrix9> so i can use them on an other machine / o r share
[09:39] <dopefish> hey, for nvidia-legacy, do I have to be using the i386 kernel? I don't understand the binary howto
[09:39] <kbrooks> eck, OK, then why do you think DNS resolving is slow at all?
[09:39] <SoftIce> hi how do you set your CFLAGS in ubuntu
[09:39] <cables> unimatrix9: the preinstalled ones are in /usr/share/themes and the ones you've installed yourself are in ~/.themes
[09:39] <SoftIce> I want to add -fno-stack-protector-all to my CFLAGS ?
[09:39] <SoftIce> set CFLAGS -fno-stack-protector-all ?
[09:39] <eternaljoy> next question. I was given a Canon digital camera, but with no CD or drivers.  How can I get Ubuntu to see it and download pictures from it?
[09:39] <dopefish> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:39] <jman> ok MarkFeathers it showed my home directory and I was able to go into it so I assume it;s working on that front
[09:39] <GauntletWizard> how do I see what messages I got at bootup once the system has loaded?
[09:39] <unimatrix9> ok i will take an look thanx
[09:39] <WaZ`> Hi, Any alternative to wine and cedega?
[09:39] <eck> probably the dns server you are using is slow
[09:39] <kbrooks> SoftIce, what do you want to compile?
[09:39] <jrib> eternaljoy: you can usually just plug it in
[09:39] <eck> if it is your isp they broke something
[09:39] <kbrooks> eck, My router is not slow.
[09:40] <Blissex> GauntletWizard: depends on which ones, but the kernel ones with 'dmesg'
[09:40] <cables> WaZ`: you could run a whole copy of windows
[09:40] <mjgxtc_> chili nope
[09:40] <eternaljoy> jrib: ok let me try that
[09:40] <chili555> GauntletWizard dmesg
[09:40] <cables> WaZ`: Crossover Office
[09:40] <eck> yes, but the dns server you are using is your ISP's correct?
[09:40] <WaZ`> cables: for games?
[09:40] <cables> WaZ`: those are your 2 options
[09:40] <cables> WaZ`: no
[09:40] <eternaljoy> jrib: can I plug it in while ubuntu and PC is running?
[09:40] <SoftIce> kbrooks: got some issues compiling my kernel and its trying to compile it with -fstack-protector
[09:40] <jrib> eternaljoy: yep
[09:40] <eternaljoy> jrib: :) brb
[09:40] <WaZ`> cables: ok (and obviously I don't want to install windows)
[09:40] <cables> WaZ`: cedega is the best for games, virtual machines work with everything BUT games.
[09:40] <mjgxtc_> chili555: still no go
[09:40] <ryoku> this channel is moving so fast my head is spinning
[09:41] <WaZ`> cables: ty
[09:41] <eck> your computer goes to the router, the router goes to the isp, both hops should be very fast
[09:41] <eternaljoy> jrib: shall I plug in first, then turn camera on?  or turn camera on first, and then plaug the USB in?
[09:41] <ryoku> this channel is moving so fast my head is spinning 800x600
[09:41] <aeonix> ok i just installed a windows program using wine now how do i open what i just installed
[09:41] <cables> eternaljoy: shouldn't matter
[09:41] <eternaljoy> cables: ok
[09:41] <chili555> mjgxtc_ you put in essid then mac then dhclient all in order?
[09:41] <mjgxtc_> iwconfig says no access point associated. Does that mean anything?
[09:41] <kbrooks> eck, how should i know?
[09:41] <mjgxtc_> yes
[09:41] <jrib> eternaljoy: I just plug it in.  My camera then asks me what I want to do.  It probably depends on your model
[09:41] <eck> kbrooks: try connecting without the router
[09:41] <cables> aeonix: it should be in ~/.wine/drive_c
[09:42] <kbrooks> eck, but what do i use to find out my dns speed ?
[09:42] <eck> if that fixes it then your router is trying to be too smart, figure out what it is doing and disable it
[09:42] <chili555> mjgxtc_ it means the wireless card and the router are flirting but not kissing
[09:42] <or_ubuntu> Mahlzeit Leute
[09:42] <aeonix> cables, it is i found it and i run it with wine but it does nothing
[09:42] <mjgxtc_> chili555 it now has access point of the mac address I put in
[09:42] <eck> kbrooks: ???? what makes you think dns is slow if you don't know how to find out your dns speed?
[09:42] <cables> aeonix: then it's not supported by wine
[09:42] <eck> chili555: well put
[09:42] <elubie> Hi! Bad news, I started Ubuntu about half an hour ago and the updater did some updates and told me to reboot and now ubuntu doesn't boot anymore!
[09:43] <cables> aeonix: go to http://appdb.winehq.org for a list of working programs
[09:43] <kbrooks> eck, I want to see if Ubuntu or my router/ISP is slow.
[09:43] <jrib> elubie: what version of ubuntu?
[09:43] <chili555> mjgxtc_ using NetworkMangler or any of those, i hope not?
[09:43] <elubie> jrib: Feisty beta
[09:43] <eck> kbrooks: what makes you think it is slow right now?
[09:43] <jrib> elubie: read the topic in #ubuntu+1
[09:43] <mjgxtc_> chili555 Im just using what comes with a new unbutu install
[09:44] <kbrooks> eck, hhang on...
[09:44] <chili555> mjgxtc_ Edgy?
[09:44] <mjgxtc_> chili555: 6.10, yes
[09:44] <loopick> eck: How many traffic use DNS-resolving queries?
[09:44] <bjv> let's say that i sat down at this machine to find the surprise that i *no longer* have a /dev/dsp or /dev/pcm ??
[09:44] <bjv> lsmod seems to indicate that my many sound related modules are still loaded. what should i restart?
[09:44] <kbrooks> eck, I don't know. I'm not sure at all.
[09:45] <chili555> mjgxtc_ good! can you pls pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[09:45] <chili555> !pastebin
[09:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:45] <eck> loopick: all of the ones that use host names. but even if you do not have a fast internet connection, the connection between your router and your ISP should be very fast, so DNS lookups will also be very fast
[09:45] <silya> Hi all! When I try to install xfce4-devel message appears: xfce4-devel: Depends: libdbh1.0-dev  but it is not installable. What's wrong?
[09:45] <gravemind> hey I need help installing the nvidia-legacy drivers. do I need to be using the i386 kernel?
[09:45] <gravemind> I'
[09:45] <eck> kbrooks: maybe it isn't a dns issue then. if you want to play with it though, you can use the dig command
[09:45] <gravemind> I am following the instructions but I don't understand that part of it
[09:46] <Nicholim> gravemind: what part?
[09:46] <eternaljoy> WOW. Ubuntu rocks socks :)  When I tried to import pix from my camera on MS Vista, Vista couldnt find the drivers for it and wouldnt work.  But Ubuntu picked it up and imported all pictures :)
[09:46] <eternaljoy> jrib: worked great
[09:46] <gravemind> Nicholim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:46] <gravemind> this is the most recent, right?
[09:46] <jrib> eternaljoy: cool
[09:46] <cables> gravemind: open a terminal
[09:46] <emi> ola aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:46] <Nicholim> it should be
[09:46] <glick> hey whats the device for microphone?
[09:47] <eternaljoy> cables: how come ubuntu works with camera?  are the drivers installed already?
[09:47] <gravemind> cables: got it
[09:47] <mjgxtc_> chili555: not sure how to do that, Im not that familiar with IRC
[09:47] <cables> eternaljoy: yeah
[09:47] <jman> ok I was looking through my nmbd log file for a clue as to why my xp box won;t join the domain and I got this:   domain_master_node_status_fail:
[09:47] <jman>   Doing a node status request to the domain master browser
[09:47] <jman>   for workgroup TEST.LOCAL at IP 192.168.1.102 failed.
[09:47] <mjgxtc_> !pastebin
[09:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:47] <kuba> hey.how can i install 'Glibc' package?when i type apt-get install glibc it tells that there is no package like this
[09:47] <eternaljoy> jrib: yeah, im so happy about that as I tried all last night with Vista.  But ubuntu worked out of the box
[09:47] <loopick> eck: I use GPRS, speed is something about 40-44 Kbit/s,
[09:47] <cables> gravemind: run "sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[09:47] <loopick> eck: I use GRPS, 40-44 Kbit/s
[09:48] <cables> gravemind: those aren't quotes, they're the thing below the ~
[09:48] <Nicholim> cables: how do you get those characters you use around the uname?
[09:48] <gravemind> cables: on the guide, it says it won't work if you have generic though
[09:48] <Nicholim> ohhhhhhh
[09:48] <Nicholim> I see
[09:48] <gravemind> that's the part I'm confused about
[09:48] <mjgxtc_> !
[09:48] <stevr1it> Who can help me? I have a hard disk with 3 partitions. root home and swap, now i need to reduce the partition home and to enlarge the partition root. any suggestion on howto?
[09:48] <cables> gravemind: it should work... i use generic + nvidia-glx
[09:48] <chili555> mjgxtc_ go to the pastebin URL and copy your file and paste it in the URL, come back here with the address. b sure to hit the 'paste' button. look below
[09:48] <eternaljoy> jrib: hey :) I just noticed Ubuntu even imported the mpeg file from my camera :)
[09:48] <chili555> !pastebin
[09:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:48] <gravemind> cables: ok, I'll try it
[09:49] <emi> ola k tal
[09:49] <RedACE> is there a solution to the "can't access tty" when trying to boot? I see tons of ppl complaining about it on forums but no solution
[09:49] <Dani> Hi, I am new to Ubuntu . I cant see my DVD RW peripheral. How can I do?
[09:49] <jrib> !es | emi
[09:49] <ubotu> emi: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:49] <eck> loopick: still, dns is small compared to the overall cost of a network transaction. of course you can use a dns cache if you get a speedup from it, but some websites might be using caching/proxy techniques that do not work with your dns cache, which is the main reason that i would advise against having a local cache
[09:49] <cables> emi, are you here for support or social chat? #ununtu-offtopic is for that.
[09:49] <bjv> stevr1it: i cant think of a reason why resizing the root partition while it is active would be safe or possible.  use a liveCD with gparted
[09:49] <gravemind> cables: I've already installed it, but doing it made the screen res go down
[09:50] <eck> if the cache respects the dns ttl record i guess you are ok
[09:50] <stevr1it> i need roon in the root, and i have 120 gb free for home
[09:50] <silya> So where is this package?
[09:50] <cables> jrib: i've never seen k used instead of que... then again I haven't IM'd with a spanish speaker in a while :)
[09:50] <cecko> hi guys, how do i unload modules please?
[09:50] <emi> ola k tal soy la xika de las poesias
[09:50] <lethal_> Could someone tell me how to setup grub onto / instead of the mbr please?
[09:50] <stevr1it> i have tried already with a live cd and gparted but it does nto allow me to modify the aprtiotion
[09:50] <stevr1it> partition
[09:51] <chili555> cecko sudo rmmod <module>
[09:51] <jrib> emi: only english here please.  For spanish:    /join #ubuntu-es
[09:51] <lethal_> cecko: sudo rmmod
[09:51] <RedACE> is there a solution to the "can't access tty" when trying to boot? I see tons of ppl complaining about it on forums but no solution
[09:51] <aeonix> is there a program that suports a 3D program like a game?
[09:51] <stevr1it> any other possibility, by termina for example?
[09:51] <cables> aeonix: wine and cedega
[09:51] <loopick> eck: understood
[09:51] <cecko> chili555: so eg. sudo rmmod alsa ?
[09:51] <cables> aeonix: but those don't work with everything
[09:51] <eternaljoy> cables: can I take out the camera usb cable while Ubuntu is running?
[09:52] <jman_> Hi I was sorting through my log files for a clue as to why I am unable to join my xp box to my samba domain and I found this:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15429/plain/
[09:52] <jrib> eternaljoy: eject or unmount the camera first
[09:52] <cables> eternaljoy: you should eject it first
[09:52] <aeonix> cables, how do i find out about cedega
[09:52] <cecko> chili555: and how do I load them back?
[09:52] <RedACE> is there a solution to the "can't access tty" when trying to boot? I see tons of ppl complaining about it on forums but no solution
[09:52] <eternaljoy> jrib: how do I eject or unmount it?
[09:52] <eck> loopick: if you want to play around with testing the current speed you can use the dig command and see how long queries are taking. if you are still unsatisfied then use a cache
[09:52] <bjv> stevr1it: from the terminal you could drop into the root account and deactivate swap and the home directory & resize those. you still would not be able to resize /
[09:52] <jrib> eternaljoy: right click on it in nautilus
[09:52] <cables> aeonix: google cedega, can't find the url now
[09:52] <silya> 0 matches found for libdbh1.0-dev query on pkgs.ubuntu.com :(
[09:52] <lethal_> !grub | lethal_
[09:52] <gravemind> cables, so how do I get my screen res back?
[09:52] <chili555> cecko if alsa is a loaded module. sudo modprobe <module>
[09:52] <Xteven> is there a system health monitoring system that comes recommended by ubuntu ?
[09:52] <cables> !fixres
[09:52] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:52] <mjgxtc_> chili555: ok, I posted it
[09:52] <gravemind> I can switch back to nv, but then I don't have hardware accelleration anymore
[09:52] <cables> gravemind ^^
[09:52] <eternaljoy> jrib: i dont see it in nautilus
[09:53] <cables> This goddamn keyboard has <enter> where the pipe should be
[09:53] <gravemind> sure that will work thoug? I think it's a problem with the nvidia driver
[09:53] <jrib> eternaljoy: on the left, in the places bar, the last thing there should be your camera
[09:53] <mjgxtc_> chilli555: under name mjgxtc, URL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15431/
[09:53] <chili555> mjgxtc_ and what is the URL?
[09:53] <cables> gravemind: you might as well try
[09:53] <emi> yo
[09:53] <loopick> eck: dig - Query time: 1239 msec
[09:53] <chili555> mjgxtc_ ok
[09:53] <jrib> eternaljoy: it's probably on your desktop too
[09:53] <emi> soy espaolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:53] <cables> gravemind: it might happen if you use legacy instead of normal... are you sure you need legacy?
[09:53] <cables> !es > emi
[09:54] <emi> siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:54] <gravemind> cables: yes, this is an old as dust PIII
[09:54] <cables> !ops
[09:54] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[09:54] <eternaljoy> jrib: its not anywhere
[09:54] <sf_> i'm upgrading to feisty. it's downloading kind of slowly. i'm wondering if it would make sense to change my sources.list to point to some package mirror servers or not. does us.archive.ubuntu.com automatically redirect to mirrors?
[09:54] <jenda> huh
[09:54] <Pelo> does someone has an easy fix for sluggish video ? i don'T thnk it's a driver issue,  I have 32 meg onboard intel 865G,  it's just that my menus sometimes are a bit slow displaying icons
[09:54] <gdiebel> eternaljoy: open a terminal, type lsusb
[09:54] <loopick> eck: I think it is normal for me
[09:54] <Pelo> sf_,  don'T mess with your upgrade once it is started
[09:54] <cables> Pelo: doesn't seem like a video thing, more likely a slow hd or something
[09:54] <gravemind> cables: oh, my xorg doesn't have vert and horiz refresh rates
[09:54] <chili555> mjgxtc_ is your wired ethernet in use?
[09:54] <gravemind> that could be a problem
[09:55] <Yoriel> hi
[09:55] <sf_> Pelo: I was only starting to download packages. Nothing has been changed yet.
[09:55] <Pelo> cables,  so would you think running my p2p apps from my other hdd would speed things up ?
[09:55] <Ich> Frage (evtl bissel OT aber naja) Welche "Marke" DVD-Brenner sind zu empfehlen?
[09:55] <eternaljoy> gdiebel: now what?
[09:55] <mjgxtc_> chili555:yes, Im using it right now to connect to IRC
[09:55] <Yoriel> why ubuntu give too much problems? just windows
[09:55] <Ich> oh sry
[09:55] <cables> Pelo: I have no idea
[09:55] <vox754> !de
[09:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:55] <gdiebel> eternaljoy: is there anything listed that resembles your camera?
[09:56] <selinuxium> Can anyone help me with a midi issue? I am trying to get jsynthlib to talk to my FCB1010. I have a creative audigy card with a midi splitter cable coming out of it into the send and return on the FCB. I cannot seem to get any signal at the computer from my FCB? This is the first time I have tried to use Midi and Linux
[09:56] <eternaljoy> how can i eject camera if its not shown in nautilus?
[09:56] <cables> Yoriel: if you need help, ask for it. If you want to complain, do it elsewhere.
[09:56] <Yoriel> i try to remove programs using add/remove
[09:56] <eternaljoy> gdiebel: Bus 001 Device 006: ID 04a9:3052 Canon, Inc. Digital IXUS V
[09:56] <Mr_Bunny_> My workspace switcher disappeared, is there a keyboard shorcut to do the same?
[09:56] <cables> eternaljoy: I'd say just unplug it if that's the case
[09:56] <chili555> mjgxtc_ ah ha! your wireless is going to be reluctant to connect and give you an IP address if wired already has one!!!
[09:56] <Pelo> eternaljoy,  if it isnT' mounted it is ejected
[09:56] <eternaljoy> cables: Bus 001 Device 006: ID 04a9:3052 Canon, Inc. Digital IXUS V
[09:56] <eternaljoy> Pelo: but it works to import pix
[09:56] <cables> Yoriel: sometimes add/remove is bad about removing software. Can you open a terminal?
[09:57] <bjv> i suddenly do not have a /dev/pcm or a /dev/dsp (what should i load/unload to try and return them?)
 i finish tp install ubuntu
[09:57] <GauntletWizard> My S40PCMCIA is failing at boot, I think because I changed it. Is there a way to re-install such?
[09:57] <farhod> maybe someone know why gnome can become slow? to open progs etc like nautilus k3b skype...
[09:57] <Pelo> eternaljoy,  and you don'T see it mounted in "my computer" ?
[09:57] <cables> Pelo: I think it's a TWAIN device, not a USBMS device.
[09:57] <eternaljoy> cables: cab i damGE PC USB PORT if i un[lug it if its not unmounted?
[09:57] <sf_> so my question is, does it make sense to change my sources.list to point to some mirror in order to download stuff faster, or would that make any difference?
[09:57] <Pelo> I'll but out then
[09:57] <cables> eternaljoy: not at all.
[09:57] <joep> hi
[09:57] <chili555> mjgxtc_ another couple of changes, i would eliminate eth1, eth2 and ath0
 yes, i have a terminal
[09:57] <eternaljoy> Pelo: no
 what i do?
[09:58] <jrib> sf_: if you use your countries mirrors, that is probably best
[09:58] <cables> eternaljoy: however, if you're busy writing files to it, it can corrupt the memory.
[09:58] <Mr_Bunny_> Is there a keyboard shortcut to change workspaces?
[09:58] <RedACE> I have an Intel Core 2 Duo. Should I download the version of ubuntu for "64bit AMD and Intel computers"
??????
[09:58] <joep> how can i install programs in ubuntu
[09:58] <cables> Yoriel: what program are you trying to install?
[09:58] <fiXXXerMet> Yes, Red
[09:58] <fiXXXerMet> RedACE:
[09:58] <lnostdal> Mr_Bunny_, ctrl-alt + arrow keys
[09:58] <eternaljoy> cables: how comw its importing files, but now showing in nautilus or desktop?
[09:58] <mjgxtc_> chili555: well, I can disable the wired connection, but I tried it before without the wired and it still didn't work
[09:58] <Yoriel> all the games
[09:58] <cables> Yoriel: calm down and be patient
[09:58] <Yoriel> serpentine
[09:58] <jrib> !install > joep    (joep, see the private message from ubotu)
[09:58] <Mr_Bunny_> lnostdal: thanks
[09:58] <Yoriel> sopund juicer
[09:58] <RedACE> thank you
[09:58] <chili555> mjgxtc_ to test, ypu will have to sudo ifdown eth0, followed by sudo dhclient wlan0
[09:58] <eternaljoy> now = not
[09:58] <eternaljoy> cables: how comw its importing files, but not showing in nautilus or desktop?
[09:58] <aeonix> is there a way i can get cedega free cedega
[09:58] <mjgxtc_> chlli555: though that was before setting the MAc manualy
[09:58] <Jaxster> is there any way to make a dvd image of my entire system so I can move it to another hard drive? like you can with Norton Ghost for XP?
[09:58] <cables> eternaljoy: it's probably using TWAIN not USB Mass Storage.
[09:58] <jrib> !software > joep    (joep, see the private message from ubotu)
[09:59] <cables> !warez
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <eternaljoy> cables: ok so what i do?
[09:59] <cables> aeonix: this is not a warez channel
[09:59] <cecko> chili555 great, can you advice me how to find the modules I need? doing modprobe -l lists too much entries, I need to find two modules for audiocards
[09:59] <drazak> Jaxster: Boot to norton ghost on a cd, it works
[09:59] <gdiebel> eternaljoy: right so it probably is not being mounted. should be ok to disconnect without manually ejecting
[09:59] <chili555> mjgxtc_ also remove wire
[09:59] <cables> eternaljoy: close any programs accessing it, and unplug it.
[09:59] <sf_> jrib: i'm in the US. would a US mirror be better than us.archive.ubuntu.com? or does that automatically redirect to a good mirror? (by pinging it, i do get replies from different servers)
[09:59] <Jaxster> cool
[09:59] <eternaljoy> ok cheers :)
[09:59] <mjgxtc_> chili555: I will try that and be right back
[09:59] <jrib> sf_: us.archive.ubuntu.com is what I meant as opposed to just using archive.ubuntu.com
[09:59] <greg_g> if anyone could help with this question that would be awesome: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2448460#post2448460
[09:59] <greg_g>  and the reason I posted in the forum is for A) everyone else's benefit and B) I will be away from my computer for a while
[09:59] <eck> loopick: i would agree that that is pretty slow. generally the time for a dns lookup is approximately whatever the latency between you and the dns server is
[09:59] <chili555> cecko lsmod | grep snd
 i'll be patient, but all is problems with  ubuntu, each installation come with the same problem
[10:00] <kbrooks> is a PIII 1.0 ghz slow?
[10:00] <Pelo> cables,  what do you mean this isnT' a warez channel ??  what about all these free apps we keep downloading ?
[10:00] <cables> Yoriel: those are built in programs, you can't remove them until you remove !ubuntu-desktop.
[10:00] <cables> Pelo: lol
[10:00] <eck> loopick: if the grps connection just inherently has a high latency then i would agree that having a dns cache might make sense
[10:00] <sf_> jrib: ok, so that's the best setting then? thanks, i'll just start it downloading and it'll just have to take a long time. ;)
[10:01] <Seveas> kbrooks, unless it's in a car/train/moving thing, it's rather slow
[10:01] <idefix> weird thing happened to my beryl today, when 3d effects are on and i move a windows so its half on one workspace half on the other and rotate the cube - that window is sort of torn apart. anyone know why?
how can you say this, if in other machines i can install
[10:01] <kbrooks> Seveas, and a P4 1.0 ghz is faster?
[10:01] <farhod> maybe someone know why gnome can become slow to open progs etc like nautilus k3b skype?...
[10:01] <cecko> chili555 thank you!
[10:01] <Seveas> kbrooks, not at all since it does not exist
[10:01] <kuba> kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[10:01] <cables> Yoriel: this is an English channel. Do you speak another language?
[10:01] <chili555> cecko welcome
[10:02] <kbrooks> Seveas, it doesn't?
[10:02] <Pelo> farhod,  review that last few tweaks you've performed , I bet one of them is at fault
 spanish,french,german,hebrew
why?
[10:02] <kbrooks> Yoriel, that's annoying.
[10:02] <cables> Yoriel: impressive :).
[10:02] <gravemind> I'm going to restart x with these new refresh rates : ) hopefully I'll be right back
[10:02] <kbrooks> Yoriel, please type, like this:
[10:02] <cables> Yoriel: are you more familiar with any of those than English?
[10:02] <kbrooks> Yoriel, nick: message
[10:03] <Seveas> kbrooks, wtf?
[10:03] <cables> !who > Yoriel
[10:03] <Yoriel> nop
[10:03] <cables> Seveas: i think that's what he means
[10:03] <kuba> what internet messenger do you use?
[10:03] <farhod> Pelo, but how totem can cause that?
[10:03] <Seveas> cables, yeah but he should not be so tense...
[10:03] <kbrooks> !who > kbrooks
[10:03] <ompaul> kbrooks, since when do you set standards?
[10:03] <cables> kuba: gaim, skype, xchat
[10:03] <Gunirus> !who > Gunirus
[10:03] <Seveas> ompaul, since he's microsoft?
[10:03] <kbrooks> ompaul, i did not.
[10:03] <cables> kbrooks: already done.
[10:03] <ompaul> ahhh
[10:03] <kbrooks> I'm not microsoft.
[10:04] <Pelo> farhod,   open up the system monitor and see what is eating up your resources , that should tell you where the problems come from
[10:04] <kbrooks> my point is that...
[10:04] <Yoriel> who need windows help?
[10:04] <wynd_> how can I force a package removal that is corrupted?
[10:04] <ompaul> !enter > kbrooks
[10:04] <kuba> cables : gaim-do you use
[10:04] <bjv> what was that comment about lsmod | grep snd ?
[10:04] <gravemind> who doesn't need windows help
[10:04] <kuba> cables: gadu-gadu protocol?
[10:04] <Agrajag> gravemind: people who don't use windows.
[10:04] <cables> Yoriel: you must remove the "ubuntu-desktop" package using Synaptic before removing built-in software.
[10:04] <kbrooks> my point is that <ompaul> a # implies that ompaul actually said a
[10:04] <kbrooks> that is all.
[10:04] <chili555> bjv i said it
[10:04] <gravemind> agrajag: touche
[10:05] <aeonix> is there a way to get programs to work that arnt suported buy Wine or cedega
[10:05] <cables> kuba: AIM, MSN, Jabber, Yahoo... I'm not polish :)
[10:05] <kuba> cables : ok thanks:)
[10:05] <kbrooks> I'm sorry if I annoyed anyone here.
[10:05] <farhod> Pelo, nothing eats my resources =/ that is the stranges thing
[10:05] <cables> aeonix: I hear Windows runs them greak
[10:05] <patricklaw> I'm having difficulty setting up my wireless adapter on a fresh ubuntu install on my IBM X40 laptop.  Anyone available to help me troubleshoot?
[10:05] <cables> *great
[10:05] <anAngel> Can anybody tell me how can i watch in realtime the concurrent network connection?
 and it fix this
[10:05] <kbrooks> anAngel, What do you mean?
[10:05] <Seveas> anAngel, iptraf
[10:05] <Yoriel> ?
[10:05] <RedACE> concurrent?
[10:05] <Seveas> anAngel, or wireshark if you want to see the contents
[10:06] <Smilez> can someone point me to the "bug-list" for 7.04 beta??
[10:06] <RedACE> have you tried staring at the cable?
[10:06] <bjv> chili555: what was the guys problem?
[10:06] <cables> Yoriel: I don't understand what you want. Are you trying to remove software?
[10:06] <ompaul> Smilez, you might want to visit launchpad.net
[10:06] <bjv> i myself cannot find /dev/dsp or /dev/pcm yet still my modules are loaded
[10:06] <anAngel> I mean to watch the number of simultaneous connection which are active
[10:06] <Smilez> thanks ompaul
[10:06] <chili555> bjv dunno, he just wanted to find modules dealing with soundcard
[10:06] <mjgxtc_> chili555: taking down the wired connection didn't change anything
[10:07] <gravemind> aeonix: you might have to wait for an update to wine/cedega. playing supcom?
[10:07] <Pelo> farhod,   too many pannel applets ? email notification with short update time ?  loaded with desktop desklets ? cpufreq applets set too low ?
[10:07] <gdiebel> Why is java6 so poor under edgy? 25% + of the applets on java.com crash the browser.
[10:07] <eck> anAngel: what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:07] <aeonix> gravemind, im trying to run Active worlds
[10:08] <patricklaw> So no one here is available to help with a wireless network card issue?
[10:08] <eck> anAngel: depending on what you want to do you should use iptraf or tcpdump/wireshark
[10:08] <gdiebel> aeonix: active words will not work
[10:08] <Pelo> !wireless | patricklaw
[10:08] <ubotu> patricklaw: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:08] <chili555> mjgxtc_ the essid from scan is exactly as in pastebin? no caps mistakes? Not really Graves?
[10:08] <farhod> Pelo, some gdeskelts, email with 20 min update time panel app only sound
[10:08] <anAngel> i have a limit number of connections i can use and i want to see how much are they 10 15 or 20
[10:08] <kbrooks> gdiebel, 25% + # Where did you get that from?
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[10:08] <patricklaw> Thanks, Pelo, I'll look at that first
[10:08] <eck> anAngel: install iptraf
[10:09] <gdiebel> kbrooks: my rather limited sample size
[10:09] <nevermind> hi
[10:09] <eck> anAngel: actually, you can just use lsof or netstat for that
[10:09] <gdiebel> kbrooks: I just tried about 10 or so. a few crashed the browser and also a different applet warned about certs and I hit cancel and it crashes the browser
[10:10] <TheCuriousOne> does anyone know how to rebuild wifi drivers for an updated kernal?  I can't detect my wifi card in i686.
[10:10] <chili555> mjgxtc_ and iwconfig shows correct essid and mac?
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[10:10] <loopick> eck: I think to try bind, because even without latency decrease I learn more about net. I read description of bind. It is DNS-server which run on my local machine. Then my connection Dns-server will be 127.0.0.1?
[10:10] <anAngel> eck: i want to see the connections on a router which have nat
[10:10] <mjgxtc_> chili555: no, its GRAVES, all caps
[10:10] <anAngel> eck: not only on the samo machiine but also the connections established from the machines behind the router
[10:11] <eck> loopick: yes, dns is the reference bind server, it is probably what your current dns server is using :-). it will automatically cache dns entries, so you basically just want to point it to your current dns provider
[10:11] <mjgxtc_> chilli555: mac and essid are correct
[10:11] <mjgxtc_> chili555: correct in iwconfig
[10:11] <chili555> mjgxtc_ its _gotta_ work. can you reboot with wire detached?
[10:11] <SpaceBass> anyone using truecrypt with server 6.10?
[10:11] <eck> loopick: and then you set your computer to use 127.0.0.1 as the dns server. then when you do a lookup it will consult the bind cache, and if there is a cache miss bind will do a real dns lookup
yes i trying to remove software
[10:12] <mjgxtc_> chili555: ok, I will try
[10:12] <eck> anAngel: then you need to run software on your router
[10:12] <mjgxtc_> chili555: BRB
in other pc's i can do
[10:12] <loopick> eck: downloading bind...
[10:12] <GoClick> I have two linux-raid partitions that I can mount fine but how do I set it to automount as /var?
[10:12] <gdiebel> kbrooks: are you using java6? try running the http://java.com/en/everywhere/airportmonitor.jsp
[10:13] <eck> i am going to work now, good luck loopick
is bad that i install twice,and every time is the same
[10:14] <lelumm> witam
[10:14] <mjgxtc_> chili555: quick question. I just looked at the MAC on the router in the router control panel
[10:14] <anAngel> eck: which software? iptraf?
 you answer me or not? just say to leave
[10:14] <mjgxtc_> chili555: its different than the one I got from the scan
[10:14] <mjgxtc_> chili555: is that a problem?
[10:15] <fiction> How do i make a mounted HD not read-only
[10:15] <ferronica> How do i Mount my windows sdb1 HDD
[10:15] <ferronica> in ubuntu 6.10
[10:15] <Pelo> ferronica,  what format ?
[10:15] <jrib> fiction: what filesystem?
[10:15] <ferronica> Pelo: NTFS
[10:15] <Yoriel> UBUNTU should wait until finish an 100% good OS, it sucks
[10:15] <Pelo> !ntfs | ferronica
[10:15] <ubotu> ferronica: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:15] <mjgxtc_> chili555: should I try setting ap to that MAC before trying rebooting?
[10:16] <siimo> hi will xfce 4.4.1 hit Fawn ? >.<
[10:16] <chili555> mjgxtc_ wow. i have seen that a time or two, i think you r gonna connect with the one from scan, but we certainly could try them both
[10:16] <Yoriel> and the support is a shit
[10:16] <ferronica> Pelo: just to access data and play songs not to write, i dont wanna to hurt my windows :)
[10:16] <tiede> !beryl
[10:16] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:16] <chili555> mjgxtc_ reboot as is for now
[10:16] <mjgxtc_> chili555 ok
[10:16] <noday42> hi everyone, i was hoping someone with ipod + ubuntu experience could help me out. im having some issues
[10:16] <Pelo> ferronica,  same answer, just donT' wite to it
[10:16] <gdiebel> Yoriel: I take sick pleasure in helping flamers. what is your problem?
[10:17] <kuba> does anybody use Gaim?
[10:17] <Seveas> gdiebel, his problem is bing removed from the channel :)
[10:17] <Seveas> kuba, sure
[10:17] <ChatUser> hello
[10:17] <Pelo> ferronica,  you can also google for something called  diskmounter
[10:17] <ferronica> Pelo: i wanna mount Read only
[10:17] <Seveas> kuba, not voluntary though :)
[10:17] <Seveas> Pelo, that doesn't mount ntfs r/w
[10:17] <Seveas> ah
[10:18] <noday42> i've been using floola and thinliquidfilm to upload songs and movies to my ipod, but lately, it corrupts something in the ipod, making half my playlists invisible. the songs are still there, but the playlists i put them in arent
[10:18] <tiede> hi. I have been trying for the past few weeks to get Beryl to work on my Computer. I have a Intel i810 graphics card, with Direct Rendering enabled, but beryl won't load (Although it says all tests pass). can someone help me fix this issue. Thanks in advance.
[10:18] <Pelo> Seveas,  read carefully, she wants read only
[10:18] <noday42> actually, half of the playlists stay, the other half disappear
[10:18] <kuba> Seveas: during making a new account , Gaim can not connect and show me a bug.what can be a cause?
[10:18] <ChatUser> i have gm945 integrated videocard with hp pavillion
[10:18] <Frederick> folks wich is the comand i can use to check if my sound card is oki?
[10:18] <ChatUser> how can I enable tv-out with ubuntu
[10:18] <Seveas> kuba, gaim being broken :)
[10:18] <Pelo> Frederick,  just play a sound file
[10:18] <Seveas> kuba, could you be more specific (screenshots help)
[10:18] <kuba> Seveas: ok wait:)
[10:19] <Frederick> Pelo: it plays no sound is out but also no error is reported cat /proc/asound/cards lists the card correctly
[10:19] <Pelo> Frederick,  check settings in alsamixer
[10:20] <kuba> Seveas: paste the screenshot here?
[10:20] <noday42> can anyone help?
[10:20] <Frederick> Pelo: already done
[10:20] <Seveas> kuba, on imageshack or somthing
[10:20] <Frederick> all status are on maximum
[10:21] <ferronica> Pelo: Not Read and write.
[10:21] <Pelo> Frederick,  you can also select the output thingy
[10:21] <fiction> How do i make a mounted HD not read-only
[10:21] <kuba> Seveas : what's imageshack :) ?
[10:21] <Pelo> ferronica,   diskmounter write support is not great and it lets you disable it so you can mount a drive as read only
[10:22] <wayne1> hi all
[10:22] <idefix> fiction: if its ntfs install fuse
[10:22] <jrib> fiction: what filesystem?
[10:22] <notoriousE> Anyone know of any good CONSOLE-BASED data recovery apps for ext3?
[10:22] <notoriousE> i deleted a folder i shouldnt have
[10:22] <fiction> idefix: it is NTFS. it's a hard drive where i put video and music files so i can access from both OS
[10:22] <fiction> jrib: ntfs
[10:22] <jrib> !ntfs > fiction    (fiction, see the private message from ubotu)
[10:22] <fiction> i can view the files, but cant put files in it
[10:23] <lgc> Hello! How can I repair a broken partition? (Partition Magick tried to resize my "/" partition (which it recognized as "ext2" instead of "ext3") and it found the partition corrupted and aborted.)
[10:23] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > fiction    (fiction, see the private message from ubotu)
[10:23] <fiction> it's not partition though
[10:23] <fiction> I've never had this problem before though. =[
[10:23] <fiction> but ok, thanks jrib
[10:24] <jrib> fiction: you can't write to ntfs by default, you need to use something like ntfs-3g
[10:24] <Lbawinowns> Hello everybody, can someone reccomend a pascal compiler for ubuntu? I heard about lazarus, how can I get it?
[10:24] <Pelo> fiction,  all data disk are partitioned , even when it is only one partition taking up the whole hdd
[10:24] <Lbawinowns> Hello jrib, remember me ;)
[10:24] <idefix> fiction: i would recommend not to use rw support if u dont know what u are doing. can kill your file system.
[10:24] <jrib> Lbawinowns: hi, yep
[10:24] <Pelo> Lbawinowns, , check in synaptic
[10:24] <kbrooks> idefix, ntfs-3g is stable for rw support, but yeah.
[10:25] <fiction> but i need to put files in there! and also, development files are in there too
[10:25] <Lbawinowns> What should i search for in synaptic?
[10:25] <BrianBoyko> Hi.  What's the quickest and easiest way to set up a folding client for Ubuntu?
[10:25] <kuba> /home/kuba/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[10:25] <Pelo> Lbawinowns,   either the name fo the package or a key word for what it does
[10:25] <ffm> for some reason, I am unable to tunnel to my compy at home over ssh.
[10:25] <idefix> kbrooks: i know i use fuse too
[10:25] <mzanfardino> Okay, I've got my two divs side by side using float: left; however, I would like two more divs to the right of the first and below the second with the last one below it.
[10:25] <waynep> ..
[10:26] <kbrooks> mzanfardino, #web
[10:26] <idefix> fiction: in any case if u still want to to it install fuse-utils (or somthing like that) and mount with '-t ntfs-3g'
[10:26] <ffm> Can som one HELP me get my ssh working.....
[10:26] <kbrooks> ffm: I can. State your problem.
[10:27] <waynep> hi ffm . . what's up ?
[10:27] <Lbawinowns> I find a program called tct, it says it contains lazarus, but I only want lazarus
[10:27] <ffm> Earlier today my computer's ssh was working fine, kbrooks, waynep. Now, it isnt. I have all ports forwarded proper
[10:27] <lgc> Idefix, how can I repair a broken partition? (Partition Magick tried to resize my "/" partition (which it recognized as "ext2" instead of "ext3") and it found the partition corrupted and aborted.)
[10:27] <Lord_Maynoth_42> weird question...
[10:28] <Pelo> Lbawinowns,  your other options are to find the lazarus website and dl either a deb file or the source code
[10:28] <mzanfardino> kbrooks: is that to suggest that with css I can't position one large div to the right, with three smaller divs stacked atop one another on the left?
[10:28] <idefix> lgc: ext2 and ext3 are virtualy the same
[10:28] <fiXXXerMet> I just downloaded the 64-bit SMP F@H client on my 6.10 64-bit core duo 2 box.   I'm trying to run it (./fah5) and I am getting "bash: ./fah5: No such file or directory"
[10:28] <Lbawinowns> Ok, thanks pelo, I'll give it a try :)
[10:28] <pieter_> hi all
[10:28] <mzanfardino> kbrooks: sorry, my bad... meant for css
[10:28] <kbrooks> mzanfardino, no, get help from ** the #css chanel **
[10:28] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I just bought a new motherboard and cpu... amd690G chipset.... and amd x2 3600+
[10:28] <idefix> lgc: how do u know its really broken did u try mounting checking it with linux?
[10:29] <lgc> idefix, do you know if Partition Magick can handle the subtle differences between them?
[10:29] <mzanfardino> kbrooks: yeah, got it, was in wrong channel
[10:29] <ferronica> Pelo: and what about command use
[10:29] <ferronica> Pelo: Power user type
[10:29] <ffm> kbrooks, waynep,  Earlier today my computer's ssh was working fine, kbrooks, waynep. Now, it isnt. I have all ports forwarded proper
[10:29] <pieter_> I got something very strange here. I want to install a package with apt-get and for some reason it is telling me that a bunch of packages need to be installed / removed / etc.. Including "apt" needs to be installed??? Somebody any idea how to fix this?
[10:29] <Pelo> ferronica,  for what ? to install diskmounter ?  just open it in gedit and read the instructions
[10:29] <Lord_Maynoth_42> knoppix, fiesty, edgy (32bit) livecds lockup on the amd690G chipset...  anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
[10:30] <idefix> lgc: not sure bit even if it would kill the journal that would matter so you should still be able to mount it. are u able to mount it. if not whats the error msg?
[10:30] <Lord_Maynoth_42> running windows xp 32bit atm... *gags*
[10:30] <waynep> ffm:  . . . any chages since it was working then quit?
[10:30] <xtknight> same report the other day, Lord_Maynoth_42
[10:30] <gdiebel> pieter_: that is normal. apt-get will automatically check for updates/security? Just accept the changes
[10:30] <lgc> idefix, PM sent the error and aborted. I  did it with PM because I don't have a live Linux disk with QTparted and doing it from my HD-installed QTparted would wreck the whole system, I gather.
[10:30] <noday42> hi everyone, i was hoping someone with ipod + ubuntu experience could help me out. im having some issues
[10:30] <xtknight> AMD is an avid suppotrer of linux though, so i'd just wait and see what hapens.
[10:30] <idefix> lgc: use gparted live cd. its better for linux in any case
[10:30] <noday42> i've been using floola and thinliquidfilm to upload songs and movies to my ipod, but lately, it corrupts something in the ipod, making half my playlists invisible. the songs are still there, but the playlists i put them in arent
[10:30] <ffm> !fluxbox noday42
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fluxbox noday42 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <Lord_Maynoth_42> oh hey!  thanks I tried the acpi boot options
[10:31] <Pelo> noday42,  try gtkpod
[10:31] <xtknight> ahh
[10:31] <ffm> !fluxbox |noday42
[10:31] <ubotu> noday42: fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[10:31] <Lord_Maynoth_42> but it still crashed
[10:31] <ferronica> Pelo: editing etc/fstab
[10:31] <xtknight> Lord_Maynoth_42, hrmm
[10:31] <ferronica> Pelo:
[10:31] <ffm> oo, sorry.
[10:31] <xtknight> Lord_Maynoth_42, not sure what to suggest next.  keep up on the latest kernel updates and keep trying new ones, i suppoes
[10:31] <chili555> fiXXXerMet did u make the file executable? chmod +x fah5...etc?
[10:31] <prieteni> How can I get the spinning cube thing?
[10:31] <ffm> kbrooks: Are you still there?
[10:31] <ferronica> Pelo: If i mount manually is there any problem ?
[10:31] <xtknight> or get on the kernel mailing list if you relaly want the most up to date info
[10:31] <Lord_Maynoth_42> if they do patch the kernel... any chance fiesty will update..
[10:31] <Lord_Maynoth_42> or will I have roll my own
[10:31] <xtknight> Lord_Maynoth_42, yes there is a chance
[10:32] <Lord_Maynoth_42> coool
[10:32] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :D
[10:32] <Pelo> ferronica, I've never mounted a ntfs hdd manualy,  sorry,   try man fstab
[10:32] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I miss linux
[10:32] <xtknight> if it means a whole chipset, i'm betting they will patch it
[10:32] <xtknight> might have to poke them a bit thou ;)
[10:32] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :D
[10:32] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I feel so insecure and dirty using windows
[10:32] <asdir> prietini: google for "ubuntu unofficial guide" and search for eye candy on the first thing google shows
[10:32] <xtknight> lol
[10:32] <Lord_Maynoth_42> like everyone is haxorzing me
[10:32] <Pelo> Lord_Maynoth_42,  you should feel dirty
[10:32] <xtknight> Lord_Maynoth_42, feel like things are crashing and you cant see em?
[10:32] <lgc> idefix, the thing is, that PM made some amount of mess in my. I can't complete the boot process with 2.6.14 and up. I can only boot with 2.6.12 and Dapper. Do you know how can I fix that mess?
[10:32] <Lord_Maynoth_42> hahaha
[10:32] <ffm> Can some one help me fix my SSSH?
[10:32] <Lord_Maynoth_42> yes
[10:32] <Lord_Maynoth_42> hahaha
[10:33] <reep> !beryl | prieteni
[10:33] <ubotu> prieteni: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:33] <xtknight> i feel like a properties window is going to freeze every minute
[10:33] <idefix> lgc: well it difficult to tell but if its just pm that tells u the part is dmged i'd say its probably still ok. not much u can do without linux there
[10:33] <xtknight> never fails
[10:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I bet xubuntu would haul arse on this dualcore
[10:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I only paid $65 for it
[10:33] <fiction> !lamp
[10:33] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> 65nm
[10:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> too
[10:33] <Pelo> ffm,  check the forum for specific issues ,  you're likely to find something
[10:33] <ffm> Pelo: It just, wont connnect.
[10:33] <xtknight> Lord_Maynoth_42, core2 ?
[10:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> amd x2 3600+ (.65nm)
[10:34] <eth01> HYPERION SUCKS!
[10:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> it was only $65.00 USD!
[10:34] <xtknight> nice
[10:34] <eth01> sexual
[10:34] <xtknight> lol?
[10:34] <eth01> hi bernie
[10:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> ?
[10:34] <vox754> !offtopic > Lord_Maynoth_42
[10:34] <_bernie> hi
[10:34] <lgc> idefix, I its almost OK, but, as I said, it did some damage while trying to resize my root. What's the utility to check the integrity of the partition?
[10:34] <Pelo> !ops | eth01
[10:34] <ubotu> eth01: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[10:34] <thekidrio> anyone know the windows version of lamp? I think its WIMP heh
[10:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> sry
[10:35] <thekidrio> !winp
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <idefix> lgc: e2fsck
[10:35] <thekidrio> !wimp
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wimp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <xtknight> yeah maynoth come to offtopic
[10:35] <ffm> !xampp
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Lord_Maynoth_42> any chance K3B 1.0 is gonna make feisty?
[10:35] <pieter_> I got something very strange here. I want to install a package with apt-get and for some reason it is telling me that a bunch of packages need to be installed / removed / etc.. Including "apt" needs to be installed??? Somebody any idea how to fix this?
[10:35] <Drk_Avenger> Hy
[10:35] <ffm> thekidrio: Try googleing wamp
[10:35] <ffm> I want to install some packages on my home comp but I cant. I cannot seem to work with SSH.
[10:35] <ffm> nm
[10:35] <xtknight> Lord_Maynoth_42, it has
[10:35] <ffm> wrong post
[10:35] <Lord_Maynoth_42> hellz yea!
[10:35] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :D
[10:35] <xtknight> Lord_Maynoth_42, Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 here on Feisty
[10:35] <reep> ffm: what kind of errors do you get with ssh?
[10:35] <idefix> lgc: do something like cfdisk '/dev/hda?' maybe pm just moved the partition so that its not hda2 anymore bit maybe hda3
[10:36] <ffm>  What port does WEBMIN use???
[10:36] <Pelo> pieter_,  it's normal,  some packaged have dependencies that need install,  have other package that they conflict or replace that need to be removed
[10:36] <lgc> idefix, can I do any damage with it, or it just diagnoses?
[10:36] <xtknight> !webmin
[10:36] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[10:36] <ffm> reep: It jsut wont connect.
[10:36] <mjgxtc> chili555: Still no connection
[10:36] <ferronica> Pelo: oh, you used only Diskmounter.
[10:36] <kbrooks> !webmin
[10:36] <guerrillawon> Does anyone know what drivers I should use to get my Logitech Quickcam communicate stx webcam working?
[10:36] <chili555> mjgxtc rats...
[10:36] <eth01> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[10:36] <Drk_Guy> Hy
[10:36] <ffm> xtknight: What should I use then? I still use it already, but I need to know what port?
[10:36] <kbrooks> Why is it no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu?
[10:36] <Pelo> ferronica,  first time I used dickmounter, then I tried nfts-3g and fuse
[10:36] <pestilence> pieter_: did you change the repos from one release to the next?
[10:36] <Drk_Guy> I have a little doubt when installing
[10:36] <ffm> reep: It jsut wont connect. IT worked b4....
[10:36] <reep> ffm: do you have admin access to the server you're trying to connect to?
[10:37] <Seveas> Pelo, freud loves you
[10:37] <ferronica> Pelo: how is ntfs-3g
[10:37] <pieter_> Pelo, yes that I know. But the packages that its saying dont have anything to do with the package I want to install. Why is it saying I need to install apt while im executing with apt.
[10:37] <Pelo>  dickmounter / diskmounter , sorry about that
[10:37] <Drk_Guy> Help me, i'm a total Linux noob
[10:37] <xtknight> ffm, sorry, i have no idea what webmin even is.  i just knew they had a factoit
[10:37] <xtknight> factoid*
[10:37] <Drk_Guy> Althought i'm a Windows Expert
[10:37] <dirgedoll> how do I mount my hard drive
[10:37] <reep> ffm: if so, and if it's ubuntu, have you checked /var/log/auth.log on the server?
[10:37] <Pelo> pieter_,  apt is probably missing something in it
[10:37] <chili555> mjgxtc no more suggestions, sorry
[10:37] <mojo> xtknight: you'd think ubotu would suggeset something else, lol
[10:37] <ompaul> kbrooks, are you serious you don't know that?
[10:37] <lgc> idefix, by the way, what the **** is a journal? (excuse my ignorance.)
[10:38] <mjgxtc> chili555: thanks for trying
[10:38] <eth01> !ops | lgc
[10:38] <ubotu> lgc: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[10:38] <Pelo> ferronica,  I thought you didn'T want your nfts partition writable ?
[10:38] <kbrooks> ompaul, Seriously.
[10:38] <jrib> eth01: ?
[10:38] <Seveas> eth01, bhave.
[10:38] <eth01> !ops | lgc
[10:38] <eth01> !ops | lgc
[10:38] <eth01> !ops | lgc
[10:38] <eth01> !ops | lgc
[10:38] <eth01> !ops | lgc
[10:38] <eth01> !ops | lgc
[10:38] <eth01> !ops | lgc
[10:38] <eth01> !ops | lgc
[10:38] <ffm> reep: Yes, yes, no. I dont have physical access, and I get a connectionmine out
[10:38] <mastercactapus> is there away to map different keys to different letters     for example map the right ALT key to the spacebar    my uncles space bar stoped working j/w
[10:38] <idefix> lgc: the fs has to be unmounted and it will ask you if anything dangours is done
[10:38] <Seveas> meh
[10:38] <mjgxtc> gtell anyone else have any idea on getting a RaLink wireless card to work?
[10:38] <Seveas> PriceChild, far too slow
[10:38] <pieter_> I think its more like an inconsistency in the package db
[10:38] <vox754> !info webmin
[10:38] <ubotu> Package webmin does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[10:39] <idefix> lgc: like allways 'man e2fsck' and read a bit!
[10:39] <xtknight> what is webmin?
[10:39] <pestilence> pieter_: did you add/change a repository?
[10:39] <PriceChild> Seveas, I wasn't trying for the hostname ban :)
[10:39] <ffm> xtknight: http://www.webmin.com
[10:39] <Drk_Guy> Hy
[10:39] <pieter_> Yes I did
[10:39] <kbrooks> xtknight, i guess ad(min)istration over the (web)
[10:39] <Drk_Guy> I have a little problem when installing Ubuntu
[10:39] <PhilK> what's a good way to get started in open source development? say you want to scale into a job for canonical, what's a good place to start? (beginner programming experience, currently a sysadmin)
[10:39] <pestilence> pieter_: the new repository is probably supplying a new version of apt.  proceed with caution
[10:40] <lgc> idefix, I did, but I just want a short answer for the meaning of "journal".
[10:40] <xtknight> PhilK, fixing bugs in ubuntu, i'd say
[10:40] <Drk_Guy> C'mon!!!!
[10:40] <pieter_> hmm
[10:40] <xtknight> !motu
[10:40] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[10:40] <pestilence> !ask
[10:40] <vox754> !ask > Drk_Guy
[10:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:40] <vox754> !ask | Drk_Guy
[10:40] <ubotu> Drk_Guy: please see above
[10:40] <idefix> lgc: a journal is used for checking the filesystem faster. ext3 has a journal ext2 not
[10:40] <pieter_> thanks pestilence. I will take a look into it. Though I might need to get back to you on this
[10:40] <PriceChild> !participate > PhilK
[10:41] <Drk_Guy> I don't know wich drives to mount
[10:41] <Drk_Guy> When installing
[10:41] <lgc> idefix, thanks.
[10:41] <dirgedoll> can someone help me mount my hard drive? thanks.
[10:41] <Drk_Guy> The installer restarts every time
[10:41] <kbrooks> When *don't* you neeed a journal?
[10:41] <pestilence> Drk_Guy: which version of ubuntu?
[10:41] <Drk_Guy> 6.06
[10:41] <Evil_Ed> hello
[10:41] <ffm> !hostmask
[10:41] <ubotu> Tor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[10:41] <cyberfr0g`> Hi
[10:41] <Drk_Guy> Downloaded one day ago
[10:41] <Seveas> kbrooks, when you live on th edge
[10:41] <cyberfr0g`> ok
[10:41] <ffm> HOW DO I get a Ubuntu hostmask?
[10:41] <idefix> kbrooks: if you got time to wait an hour for booting :)
[10:41] <PriceChild> !member > ffm
[10:41] <Seveas> ffm, by bcoming an ubuntu member
[10:41] <pestilence> Drk_Guy: if you can't identify your drives, the easiest way to do so is to boot off a live cd and have a look at them (making notes on paper)
[10:42] <guerrillawon> Excuse me, but does anyone know which drivers are needed to get the Logitech Quickcam series webcams working under Ubuntu?
[10:42] <PhilK> I'm kind of leaning more towards skills, like recommendations for books/classes/etc.  How does one become a "developer" so to speak.
[10:42] <Pelo> Drk_Guy,  how many hdd do you have ?,  does the hdd you want to install ubuntu to have space on it , does it have anything else on it ?
[10:42] <PriceChild> guerrillawon, depends what chipset yours contains
[10:42] <abcdef> do we have to pay to become member?
[10:42] <pestilence> abcdef: member of what?
[10:42] <PriceChild> guerrillawon, for example my quickcam chat works out of the box
[10:42] <Drk_Guy> I've done that, but it just do not mount the drives for some odd reason
[10:42] <abcdef> of ubuntu
[10:42] <Pelo> abcdef,  a member or what ?
[10:42] <abcdef> lol
[10:42] <guerrillawon> Price I see, how would I check? It's the Communicate STX
[10:42] <PriceChild> abcdef, no
[10:42] <Drk_Guy> I have 2 hd's
[10:42] <Seveas> abcdef, you have to invest time to contribute
[10:42] <lgc> what's this guy, eth01 is (or was) trying to do with his repeated "!ops | lgc"?
[10:42] <abcdef> ohhh
[10:42] <Drk_Guy> 6 partitions in total
[10:42] <abcdef> i dont have time :D
[10:43] <Seveas> lgc, being annoying :)
[10:43] <PriceChild> guerrillawon, have you installed camorama to see if it works?
[10:43] <pestilence> Drk_Guy: what kind of partitions?  NTFS?
[10:43] <Drk_Guy> Ntfs
[10:43] <ffm> So being a Ubunteros dosnt count?
[10:43] <Pelo> Drk_Guy,   the live cd does not mount hdd automaticaly ,  but it sees the drives and will install to the one you specify when you get to that step
[10:43] <pestilence> Drk_Guy: ubuntu will only mount those read-only.
[10:43] <ompaul> ffm, it counts a bit
[10:43] <guerrillawon> PriceChild I have and I'm not getting anything.
[10:43] <Seveas> ffm, no
[10:43] <netmon1> If I wanted X on a server would fluxbox or xfce be better
[10:43] <Drk_Guy> I will format all hd's
[10:43] <mjgxtc> can anyone help with installing a wireless card using RaLink chipset?
[10:43] <Seveas> ompaul, not for a cloak ;)
[10:43] <lgc> Seveas, what a creep. But he did invoke some functionality I'd like to learn about...
[10:43] <PriceChild> guerrillawon, lsusb to find the chipset it uses
[10:43] <Shafto> netmon1, xfce
[10:43] <guerrillawon> PriceChild not even a power on light.
[10:43] <ffm> netmon1: I would goe with xfce.
[10:43] <Seveas> !bot | lgc
[10:43] <ompaul> Seveas, it is one part of a long stream of things you need to do
[10:43] <dirgedoll> :(
[10:43] <Drk_Guy> So i can get a new Windows and Linux clean install
[10:43] <idefix> netmon1: u dont wnat x on a server
[10:43] <ubotu> lgc: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:43] <vox754> lgc, you said *** so he tried to warn the ops, although he didn't do it the right way
[10:43] <pestilence> Drk_Guy: i'm confused.  why do you want to mount them?
[10:44] <netmon1> idefix, How come, security?
[10:44] <PriceChild> guerrillawon, doesn't sound good at all :)
[10:44] <Dwezek> May I ask a question about MC?  Why is it that MC shows ascii garbage when I connect via Putty over my cable modem?
[10:44] <Drk_Guy> For examinating them and determining wich drives are the empty ones ready for Linuix
[10:44] <lizalo> will soemone please assist me instaling Webmin
[10:44] <guerrillawon> PriceChild gah I know, it is seeing it though. I will test it on a windows box now I think.
[10:44] <ompaul> Dwezek, that has to do with your terminal settings
[10:44] <guerrillawon> Bestbuy, go figure.
[10:45] <lizalo> it told me to visit http://coban:10000
[10:45] <Dwezek> ompaul:  Any idea what the correct terminal setting should be for Putty?
[10:45] <lgc> vox754, what a puritain creep!
[10:45] <pestilence> Drk_Guy: i would use a live cd to do that.  the version after 6.06 is a combo livecd/install cd...so you may want to use that
[10:45] <idefix> netmon1: that among other things - a server is a machine that runs some daemons and thats it if u need x apps just use ssh and display them on ur workstation
[10:45] <Drk_Guy> i have 2 partitions that are empty, i want to know wich of all the parttions are those ones
[10:45] <lizalo> after instalation, but coban is the name of my box,.. but it wont work
[10:45] <vox754> !language > lgc
[10:45] <ompaul> Dwezek, no idea, that would infer I know someting of windows functionality :)
[10:45] <Drk_Guy> The beta?
[10:45] <pestilence> Drk_Guy: isn't 6.06 LTS?
[10:45] <pieter_> pestilence; thanks man. removing the repository solved it - although it was just the skype repository, dont get it
[10:45] <pestilence> Drk_Guy: the one after that is edgy
[10:45] <Dwezek> ompaul:  What would be the default on the linux side?
[10:45] <netmon1> idefix, You mean SSH into my workstation and use that X?
[10:45] <Drk_Guy> It's too heavy for downloading again
[10:45] <pestilence> Drk_Guy: which is not beta.
[10:46] <Durtro> Hi
[10:46] <Drk_Guy> 6.06 was downloaded a day AGO
[10:46] <lgc> vox754, is "creep" an offensive word? Is this channel a puritain one?
[10:46] <ompaul> Dwezek, that comes with your localisation - but generally your looking for utf8
[10:46] <vox754> ompaul, watch for lgc he is using foul language
[10:46] <idefix> netmon1: yep
[10:46] <guerrillawon> PriceChild ok theres no on light, but windows is recognizing the new usb device.
[10:46] <pestilence> Drk_Guy: well, you can hit ctrl+alt+f2 and then mount the partitions yourself, but this may be tough for a "newbie"
[10:46] <ffm> !fiesty
[10:46] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:46] <ompaul> vox754, ehh I don't think so
[10:46] <kbrooks> lgc: no, it is not an offensive word by itself
[10:46] <ffm>  !schedule
[10:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:46] <guerrillawon> Let me try to get the chipset ver.
[10:46] <Dwezek> ompaul:  Not everything is garbage... just the straight lines that make up the borders
[10:46] <Drk_Guy> I'm not a newbie handling parttions
[10:46] <mjgxtc> can anyone assist with getting a wireless card using RaLink chipset to work?
[10:46] <netmon1> idefix, So would I just SSH in like normal and run startx or how does that work?
[10:47] <Drk_Guy> I'm an expert doing that on Windows
[10:47] <guerrillawon> I really appreceate the help also.
[10:47] <pestilence> Drk_Guy: so hit ctrl+alt+f2, and mount em
[10:47] <Drk_Guy> I just want to experience "Linux power"
[10:47] <Agrajag> Dwezek: are you using UTF-8 in putty?
[10:47] <Drk_Guy> Ok, tyu
[10:47] <Dwezek> agrajag: I will check
[10:47] <pestilence> Drk_Guy: even though you just downloaded it, it's still almost a year old ;)
[10:47] <guerrillawon> PriceChild lsusb brings up Bus 002 Device 009: ID 046d:08d7 Logitech, Inc.
[10:47] <lgc> vox754, I think you are being too puritain and you, instead of doing any good, are unduly straining the otherwise easy flow office questions and answers. Dismal.
[10:47] <idefix> netmon1: no u have to forward the x stuff to ur ws.. let me find a tut give me a sec
[10:47] <Agrajag> Dwezek: change settings... -> Window -> Translation
[10:47] <ompaul> Dwezek, yeap I used to get that years ago with freebsd installers and console managers UTF-8 is a reasonable choice but they need to match that is where the problem lies
[10:48] <netmon1> idefix, k thanks
[10:48] <guerrillawon> Not sure where the chipset id is in there.
[10:48] <vox754> lgc, You took your time to write that. In case you haven't noticed this conversation is over. Let it go.
[10:49] <lgc> vox754, indeed! But stop picking on me!
[10:49] <Dwezek> agrajag:  MHmmm it is now at utf-8 but still the straightlines are garbage ;(
[10:49] <ferronica> Pelo: ntfs-3g is okay to use?
[10:49] <mjgxtc> can anyone assist with getting a wireless card using RaLink chipset to work?
[10:49] <Agrajag> Dwezek: did you exit mc and start over?
[10:49] <ompaul> lgc, please stop now, and vox754 I request you do the same - no last words from either of you
[10:49] <lgc> ompaul, agreed.
[10:50] <Dwezek> agrajag:  Thank you... that was the ticket!!!
[10:50] <Agrajag> Dwezek: oh good
[10:50] <pestilence> does anybody use sound notification in evolution?  does it work for you in the latest ubuntu?
[10:51] <Dwezek> do all distros use utf-8?
[10:51] <RabiddogJr> I am wondering if any of you can recommend any free software that allows me to setup a blog on my own web server on my ubuntu distro?
[10:51] <ompaul> Dwezek, no
[10:51] <ajehuk> Dwezek - they all can - but they will use whatever is set up
[10:51] <idefix> netmon1: got it?
[10:51] <titc1> hi i cant put files in the main file system...
[10:51] <pestilence> RabiddogJr: drupal or wordpress
[10:52] <pestilence> wordpress might be easier
[10:52] <RabiddogJr> drupal or word press, K I will go google them.......any pros or cons I should be aware of?
[10:52] <Dwezek> Is there a way to tell what a paricular distro is using for translation?
[10:52] <RabiddogJr> ok
[10:52] <ajehuk> titc1 : could you elaborate a little
[10:52] <netmon1> idefix, now I didnt see any link
[10:52] <mjgxtc> can anyone assist with getting a wireless card using RaLink chipset to work?
[10:52] <netmon1> idefix, nope I mean
[10:52] <Dwezek> I use slackware and suse also and slackware likes the putty default but suse doesnt
[10:52] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I am so glad k3b is out of beta... I can switch back from nerolinux
[10:52] <pestilence> mjgxtc: be more specific about your problem
[10:52] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :D
[10:53] <titc1> i need to install my printer and when i go to install it says i dont have access to do that
[10:53] <Lord_Maynoth_42> anyone know if Open office 2.2 made it to fiesty?
[10:53] <lgc> What is "curses"? (As in "curses-based", no flames, please.)
[10:53] <RFA2> does anyone know of a good distributed file system perhapes like MogileFS, but where there also is some documentation. I would like a feature where the system is striping the files over multiple machines.
[10:53] <netmon1> Lord_Maynoth_42, yes
[10:53] <mjgxtc> pestilence: I have an intelenet card using RT2561/RT61 chipset
[10:53] <Lord_Maynoth_42> awesome
[10:53] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :D
[10:53] <Lord_Maynoth_42> thanks
[10:54] <netmon1> np
[10:54] <pestilence> mjgxtc: does it require you use ndiswrapper?
[10:54] <netmon1> idefix, Could you message me it?
[10:54] <metalgigabyte> hola
[10:54] <mjgxtc> pestilence: I have wlan0 listed under iwconfig and network manager
[10:54] <pestilence> mjgxtc: ok, so what's the problem
[10:54] <retard-ed> is there a big difference between XORG kde and Xfree86 when it comes to vga drivers.. ??
[10:54] <mjgxtc> pestilence: I don't know, documentation and everyone keeps telling me RT61 should just work
[10:54] <lgc> idefix, you?
[10:55] <ajehuk> titc1 : how are you trying to do the installation? - through a control panel?
[10:55] <pestilence> mjgxtc: if you have wlan0, it is working :)
[10:55] <mrec_> hi, I just upgraded my debian system to ubuntu and Xorg won't start up anymore the whole screen starts to flicker wild now (i855gm chipset) any idea what's wrong there?
[10:55] <idefix> afk for a bit. brb
[10:55] <pestilence> mjgxtc: you may not have the correct settings, but in terms of drivers, it sounds functional
[10:55] <PhilK> lgc: Curses ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curses_based )
[10:55] <mjgxtc> gtell but it doesn't. I can set the essid and I've tried setting the router mac address manually
[10:55] <lgc> PhilK, thanks.
[10:55] <pestilence> mjgxtc: is your router using WPA?
[10:56] <mjgxtc> pestilence I usually use WEP but I turned it off to make sure that wasn't the issue
[10:56] <TheVault> Can someone help me with Ndiswrapper with my bcm43xx chipset?
[10:56] <roadfish> hot can I figure out the Package.gz URL directly, given a sources.lst enttry?
[10:56] <roadfish> s/hot/how
[10:56] <vox754> TheVault, http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=documentation
[10:56] <pestilence> mjgxtc: open up a terminal
[10:57] <pestilence> mjgxtc: type "sudo iwconfig"
[10:57] <TheVault> vox754: Does that cover the WPA security as well?
[10:57] <Lbawinowns> Hmmm... it is hard to know what file i must download from the free pascal compiler webpage
[10:57] <myeur0> good afternoon
[10:57] <RabiddogJr> 2nd question is there a way to access my ubuntu remotely from a "Windows Vista 64 bit OS"
[10:57] <vox754> TheVault, I don't know all answers...
[10:57] <idefix> netmon1: k, here u go http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-X-Apps-6.html
[10:57] <titc1> i have a RPM file with the drivers for my printer and when i try to extract to the main filesystem it says :
[10:57] <titc1> You don't have the right permissions to extract the files to the folder "/etc".
[10:57] <TheVault> vox754: Alright, Thnx. I found something on the webpage for that
[10:57] <mjgxtc> pestilence Ok.. I see wlan0 with the ESSID set and Acess point set
[10:57] <netmon1> idefix, thanks ill check it out
[10:57] <Agrajag> Lbawinowns: are you trying to download software off the web for ubuntu? that's what the repositories are for.
[10:57] <ompaul> RabiddogJr, who knows, does that "thing" you mentioned support an ssh client?
[10:57] <Spee_Der> myeur0, good afternoon. Hows things ?
[10:58] <nikin> how can i enable seedstepping for my cpu? it was enabled but after removing powernowd it went away
[10:58] <pestilence> mjgxtc: and how about "link quality" and "mac"?
[10:58] <nikin> speed*
[10:58] <RabiddogJr> ompal of course ubuntu does
[10:58] <Lbawinowns> Ok, but what repo should I download to be able to download pascal?
[10:58] <myeur0> could be better
[10:58] <pestilence> oh, i suppose that is what "access point" is :)
[10:58] <idefix> netmon1: remember dont do this without ssh at least not ever the internet no encryption or anything!
[10:58] <ompaul> RabiddogJr, that other thing - not ubuntu
[10:58] <Agrajag> Lbawinowns: you don't download a repository, a repository is a collection of software.
[10:58] <mjgxtc> pestilence: there is no entry for link quality or mac
[10:58] <titc1> when i try to install my drivers from this .RPM file i get this error: You don't have the right permissions to extract the files to the folder "/etc".
[10:58] <RabiddogJr> ompaul I'm trying to find a client that works on it
[10:58] <Agrajag> Lbawinowns: You can run Synaptic and search for pascal.
[10:59] <Spee_Der> myeur0, Oh. What's up ? Dunn'o that I can help, but someone can I'm sure.....
[10:59] <ajehuk> RabiddogJr - putty
[10:59] <ompaul> RabiddogJr, better to install a real operating system on that partition :-)
[10:59] <idefix> lgc: yo 8)
[10:59] <madsporkmurderer> In OO.o I can't find a way to plot an xy graph with what OO.o always automatically puts on the x-axis on the y and vise-versa, does anyone know how to do this?
[10:59] <Shafto> titc1, What drivers you trying to install?
[10:59] <titc1> my printer drivers from epson
[10:59] <RabiddogJr> ompaul: meh, dun be silly, some things are necessary and unavoidable
[10:59] <pestilence> mjgxtc: how about "iwlist scan"
[10:59] <mjgxtc> pestilence yes, I manually set the MAC to to the router
[10:59] <myeur0> cant make ubunto updates load
[10:59] <lgc> PhilK, thanks. I wanted to know that for years....;).
[10:59] <nikin> how can i install speedstep support for my cpu? it is an intel pentium M Dorthan
[10:59] <pestilence> mjgxtc: you shouldn't have to do that.
[10:59] <Shafto> titc1, Id recommend using alien to convert into a dec
[11:00] <Shafto> titc1, deb*
[11:00] <ajehuk> RabiddogJr - are you talking remote access or local access to the file system?
[11:00] <Jowi> hello everyone
[11:00] <titc1> and then what will the DEB do?
[11:00] <titc1> just a 1 click install?
[11:00] <Spee_Der> myeur0, How so ? I sometimes have difficulty also. Bit it does work after a bit.....  What's it not doing ?
[11:00] <lgc> idefix, it was about "curses" (which I resort to often in real life....)
[11:00] <ompaul> RabiddogJr, my entire business operation of 60 users all use at least one form of GNU/Linux on each desktop
[11:00] <RabiddogJr> ajehuk: remote access to the ubuntu linux desktop from a Windows Vista 64 bit OS
[11:00] <mjgxtc> pestilence iwlist scan gives wlan with the same info as iwconfg
[11:00] <fiction> !lamp
[11:00] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:00] <RabiddogJr> ompaul: heh
[11:00] <ompaul> RabiddogJr, thems desktops
[11:00] <ajehuk> RabiddogJr - options are endless, VNC, RDC, SSH, Telnet (ugh)
[11:00] <usher_> I've got an update in my toolbar that won't update, I get an error each time - any ideas?
[11:00] <myeur0> keeps updating them and taking them away
[11:01] <Shafto> titc1, Yep
[11:01] <pestilence> mjgxtc: iwlist scan shows you the wireless networks that your card sees....so if it's showing you the same info that means your wireless card is working
[11:01] <RabiddogJr> ajehuk: I know nx client is not vista 64 bit compatible
[11:01] <titc1> i tryed searching for `alien` but nothing accept games
[11:01] <ajehuk> RabiddogJr : VNC then?
[11:01] <PhilK> lgc: no problem man, though I'd recommend a google search next time, some dudes aren't as nice ;)
[11:01] <RabiddogJr> checking it
[11:01] <RabiddogJr> website
[11:01] <pestilence> mjgxtc: so it's a configuration problem.  i would start by not setting the MAC address of your router
[11:01] <Spee_Der> myeur0, Hmmm, I've not has that happen before. How please, are you doing the updates ? Synaptic ? Via terminal with sudo apt-get update ?
[11:01] <idefix> lgc: u do that ^^
[11:02] <myeur0> i thought automatrics
[11:02] <Shafto> titc1, Do it in synaptic
[11:02] <rage0ne> anyone have any issues installing linuxmce?
[11:02] <lgc> PhilK, you bet. I just had a sample of that right in here...:).
[11:02] <usher_> rage0ne: i thought that was easy to isntall
[11:02] <mojo> rage0ne: yeah, it failed on me and i haven't had the opp. to try again
[11:02] <RabiddogJr> ajehuk: hmm might just work
[11:02] <rage0ne> well it went through the install
[11:02] <rage0ne> then just to a black screen when you launch
[11:02] <rage0ne> no interface
[11:02] <Shafto> titc1, Or sudo apt-get install alien
[11:02] <mjgxtc> pestilence: how do I set it back to default?
[11:02] <rage0ne> ubuntu loaded fine
[11:03] <Spee_Der> myeur0, From what I gather, Automatix sucks. It simply does not work correctly. My observation anyway.
[11:03] <mjgxtc> pestilence just leave ap blank?
[11:03] <Lord_Maynoth_42> now that IS WERID
[11:03] <PhilK> rage0ne: yeah, it completely b0rked my apt sources on feisty (tbf though it's not supposed to work on feisty anyway, so I'm an idiot)
[11:03] <Lord_Maynoth_42> WEIRD
[11:03] <pestilence> mjgxtc: i don't know, i have never used network manager...
[11:03] <mojo> rage0ne: tho edgy installed nicely on the living room pc.  but with no tv working my roomies woulda been mad so i swapped back in the windblows hdd
[11:03] <myeur0> wats better?????
[11:03] <madsporkmurderer> In OO.o I can't find a way to plot an xy graph with what OO.o always automatically puts on the x-axis on the y and vise-versa, does anyone know how to do this?
[11:03] <Lord_Maynoth_42> anyone here know why feisty would work on a computer with 64bit version but not 32bit?
[11:03] <rage0ne> mojo, no video issues?
[11:03] <Guthix> I heard somewhere that the linux kernel has like a 800mb ram limit... that true?
[11:03] <Spee_Der> myeur0, I would would either stick with sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade.....  Or use Synaptic.....
[11:03] <Agrajag> Guthix: no
[11:03] <ajehuk> RabiddogJr : does work, just get the config right - you can either gain access remotley to the currently logged in session or any number of other sessions, depends on what you do with the vnc server and how you connect... (obviously)
[11:03] <mjgxtc> pestilence: Im using iwconfig
[11:03] <jrib> Lord_Maynoth_42: by "work" you mean install?
[11:04] <pestilence> mjgxtc: from the command line, you should be able to do "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid ANY && sudo dhcpcd wlan0"...
[11:04] <myeur0> ok do you have that site????
[11:04] <RabiddogJr> yeah, just was so used to using nx client from work
[11:04] <RabiddogJr> to access my home
[11:04] <Guthix> Agra: I know theres like ways around it but in ubuntu is it limited on a default install?
[11:04] <Lord_Maynoth_42> well just booting into the livecd locks up on 32bit... but its ok on the 64bit
[11:04] <Spee_Der> mye I have very much shyied away from automatix. Only because of watching the more knowledgeable folks in this chan.
[11:04] <pestilence> mjgxtc: oops, probably is dhclient, not dhcpcd
[11:04] <ajehuk> RabiddogJr : would also suggest you do it over SSH or use some other form of crypto - I however have no Idea how you would acieve that under vista..
[11:04] <quamis> hy, i have a problem with xgl un ubuntu edgy afer doin some updates... anyone knows how to fix this?
[11:04] <myeur0> for synaptics
[11:04] <Agrajag> Guthix: What do you mean "ways around it"?
[11:04] <mjgxtc> pestilence: Thats what I started out wiht
[11:04] <Agrajag> Guthix: I have 2GB on my home desktop, it's not limited at all.
[11:05] <ajehuk> RabiddogJr - used to be fairly easy under NT with putty and realvnc
[11:05] <RabiddogJr> ajehuk: nxclient used to take care of that
[11:05] <Spee_Der> myeur0, in terminal: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:05] <Guthix> Agra: theres was something you could enable if you recompile the kernel (sounds like a lot of work) that would have linux utilize that extra ram
[11:05] <usher_> I'm getting a Linux Kernel Image Error when I try to install the update version 2.6.20-14-386, 22 MB's
[11:05] <mjgxtc> pestilence: but dhclient doesn't get me anything there
[11:05] <Lbawinowns> WEll i ran a pascal package
[11:05] <mojo> rage0ne: the install failed.  video is mobo intel chipset, worked fine.  it was late that night like 2 weeks ago and i said smurf it, i'll try again later when i have time to smuf with it in greater detail and figure the smurfing thing out
[11:05] <Spee_Der> myeur0, then while in terminal do sudo apt-get update
[11:05] <Lbawinowns> and intalled,
[11:05] <Agrajag> Guthix: I don't know where you head any of this, but it's not true.
[11:05] <Lbawinowns> but where is the program itself?
[11:05] <mojo> rage0ne: but i'
[11:05] <pestilence> mjgxtc: but issuing "essid any" does get you your router's ESSID in iwconfig?
[11:05] <Spee_Der> myeur0, then do sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:05] <myeur0> ok thank you
[11:05] <kane77> usher_, you on feisty?
[11:05] <mojo> rage0ne: but i'd like to get it working cuz the program we're using on WinXP sucks, imho
[11:05] <usher_> kane77: Yes
[11:06] <Guthix> debating whether to duelboot or not on my computer
[11:06] <pestilence> mjgxtc: did you try "iwconfig wlan0 enc off"?
[11:06] <kane77> usher_, read the topic in #ubuntu+1
[11:06] <titc1> ok ive installed alien now what?
[11:06] <mjgxtc> pestilence: no, if I don't set the essid I get nothing
[11:06] <[1] rage0ne> does linuxmce have an irc spot
[11:06] <myeur0> witch 1 first???
[11:06] <mojo> #linuxmce probably!
[11:07] <Spee_Der> myeur0, sudo apt-get update
[11:07] <Spee_Der> myeur0, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:07] <ajehuk> mjgxtc / pestilence, havent been following your chat here but hae you tried specifying the mac of the AP in /etc/network/interfaces, and also making sure that the card mac is set in the conf files for ndiswrapper (if its being used)
[11:07] <tbuss> could someone plz help with a apache error I'm receiving....driving me crazy
[11:07] <mojo> yup, #linuxmce here on freenode
[11:07] <myeur0> ok thank you
[11:07] <myeur0> be back later .....thank you
[11:07] <lgc> idefix, do you know of a way to preserve the list of packages I've installed across Ubuntu releases? I mean, if I can't fix the mess with my partition and I have to reinstall from scratch.
[11:07] <Spee_Der> myeur0, good luck and your welcome.
[11:07] <ajehuk> tbuss - shoot
[11:07] <titc1> ive installed ALIEN for this RPM, but i cant find out how to use it
[11:07] <NET||abuse> hi all, i'm having a realllly really weird azureus problem,, i run azureus and i get a weird runtime error on the console, just halts at the first boot language select setup screen
[11:08] <tbuss> ajehuk: pastebin okay?
[11:08] <ajehuk> yeah
[11:08] <mojo> rage0ne: #linuxmce is a desert town right now
[11:08] <mjgxtc> ajehuk: I did try setting MAC that didn't help, and Im not using ndiswrapper
[11:08] <tbuss> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15434/
[11:09] <idefix> lgc: the packages list is essentially ur system state. so u would have to save the whole system
[11:09] <NET||abuse> http://rafb.net/p/JOrGwm16.html
[11:09] <ajehuk> mjgxtc - hmm - sorry no idea then, I'll leave you and pestilence to work through.
[11:09] <mjgxtc> I was told I do not need it with an RaLink chipset router, and iwconfig and network manager both see device wlan0 so I think the driver is working
[11:09] <nikin> what program should i installl to manage cpu speed step ?
[11:09] <ajehuk> tbuss - just looking now,
[11:09] <mjgxtc> pestilence: I set enc off
[11:09] <tbuss> ajehuk: ok
[11:09] <mjgxtc> pestilence: no change
[11:10] <idefix> lgc: but if the partition is still mount able there is no need to reinstall it - in that case there probably just a config error in ur grub menu.lst
[11:10] <ajehuk> tbuss - are you runing apache and apache2 simultaneously by any chance?
[11:10] <mon^rch> can I control volume from the command line?
[11:10] <pestilence> mjgxtc: i dunno...does you have any other devices using the wireless that still work? (are you sure it's not a router setting)
[11:10] <mojo> mon^rch: alsactl
[11:10] <tbuss> ajehuk: not that I know of, didn't start receiving error until I tried to install gallery2
[11:10] <lgc> idefix, does PM mess with menu.lst?
[11:11] <mojo> mon^rch: sry i meant alsamixer
[11:11] <idefix> lgc: no but with the partition table on...
[11:11] <ajehuk> tbuss - OK hold on, I'll see if I can duplicate the error
[11:11] <mjgxtc> pestilence I have several other computers working off of this router, and this card worked with the router in a debian machine
[11:11] <tbuss> ajehuk: ok
[11:12] <mjgxtc> pestilence: the router eettings haven't changed except I turned WEP off
[11:12] <mon^rch> mojo: alsamixer "what" ( I want to set a % volume )
[11:12] <idefix> lgc: and grub needs to know what partition ur linux is on to boot it.. if pm moved that partition, or deleted another one this could cause grub to not find linux anymore
[11:12] <pestilence> mjgxtc: right, i'm just asking, since you changed the settings, the other computers are still able to connect (without WEP)
[11:12] <mojo> mon^rch: oh, it is ncurses interface... maybe alsamixer --help
[11:12] <ajehuk> tbuss - can you drop the results of both "ps wax | grep apach*" and "ifconfig -a" (both as root) into that pastebin too please?
[11:13] <tbuss> ajehuk: alright give me a second
[11:13] <mjgxtc> pestilence: I've only checked with one but it seems to be working ok
[11:13] <Loki-uk> is anyone here running ubuntu under virtual pc?
[11:13] <mjgxtc> pestilence: that was a windows laptop though, not a linux machine
[11:14] <Derek_Russo> Can anyone recommend a good music player for linux?
[11:14] <pestilence> mjgxtc: hmm.  so do you still have network manager running?
[11:14] <pestilence> mjgxtc: i would be suspicious of it, mainly because i don't use it and therefore fear it.
[11:14] <ched> nom : epiknet
[11:14] <mjgxtc> pestilence: no, I closed it
[11:14] <mon^rch> Derek_Russo: amarok
[11:14] <lgc> idefix, it's still sda2. As I recall, PM was starting (or preparing) to move it when it aborted the op.
[11:14] <Loki-uk> does anyone know how to enable an sb16 sound card in ubuntu my system says I have no card?
[11:14] <idefix> lgc: can u mount it?
[11:15] <NET||abuse> Derek_Russo, i am really liking rythmbox, but banshee is nice too
[11:15] <mjgxtc> pestilence: I always used iwconfig and dhclient from the command line in debian as well
[11:15] <Derek_Russo> I would like one with similar functionality to itues
[11:15] <Derek_Russo> meaning, I what I really want is the ability to do a real time search
[11:15] <DShepherd> Derek_Russo, then banshee is your way to go
[11:15] <declan> Derek: if you are using Gnome, Exaile is nice indeed
[11:15] <NET||abuse> rythembox does that
[11:15] <tbuss> ajehuk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15435/
[11:15] <mjgxtc> pestilence: though under that system the device was called ra0.
[11:15] <mojo> mon^rch: sry i don't know an easy command line way... unless you use alsactl to load an alsa config that has been edited with your desired volume... you might make a hack with sed or something if it is a text config
[11:15] <FreXxX> hey yall
[11:16] <NET||abuse> Derek_Russo, it's easy to install banshee and Rythmbox
[11:16] <mon^rch> mojo: ok, thanks for trying
[11:16] <mjgxtc> pestilence: the name of the device shouldn't make a difference should it?
[11:16] <NET||abuse> Derek_Russo, Exaile needs all sortsa python foo
[11:16] <lgc> idefix, yep. I'm working with it right now. What happened while booting was that at some point the process would freeze and do nothing more.
[11:16] <Derek_Russo> NET||abuse: thanks, I"m going to go with banshee
[11:16] <pestilence> mjgxtc: no.
[11:17] <mjgxtc> pestilence: didn't think so
[11:17] <declan> Banshee always crashed on me... but I haven't tried it in a few months.
[11:17] <idefix> lgc: did e2fsck report any errors when u checked it?
[11:17] <declan> I wish one of them, apart from Amarok played shns.
[11:17] <myeur0> how do i get synaptic
[11:17] <mojo> np...  /var/lib/alsa/asound.state  is a text file, so there is a possibility of making a slim one with just the control you want to adjust.  but other than that idea you're on your own..  gl
[11:18] <syn_jet> myeur0: applications-->add/remove
[11:18] <ajehuk> tbuss - apache is running - and using port 80, you are trying to start apache2 and bind it to the same address, if you dont need apache then simply do a /etc/init.d apache stop (as root) and then turn it off at boot time by either editing the apache rc scripts, or running dpkg-reconfigure apache (or uninstall it...), once you have stopped apache try starting apache2 and give me a shout as to if that helps at all, - I assume it will
[11:18] <lgc> idefix, I haven't unmounted the system yet. That would entail leaving my session without some answers...:).
[11:18] <DShepherd> myeur0, unless you intentionally installed it.. it should be there,,, system.. admin,, synaptic
[11:18] <DShepherd> s/installed/unistalled
[11:18] <tbuss> ajehuk: will do, thanks
[11:19] <mjgxtc> pestilence: there is also a wmaster0 listed under iwconfig but that has no entry for essid at all and everyone says to ignore it
[11:19] <freelame> buona sera a tutti
[11:20] <declan> Ciao
[11:20] <lgc> freelame, buongiorno!
[11:20] <freelame> qualcuno potrebbe aiutarmi col mio ubuntu?
[11:20] <idefix> lgc: u should first of all check it (since i use reiser for a long time now) im not to sure on how to actually use e2fsck but if i remember correct 'e2fschk -f /dev/sda2' should be ok.
[11:20] <tbuss> ajehuk: command not found for apache? /etc/init.d apache stop
[11:20] <myeur0> yeah its there
[11:20] <declan> Che problema hai freelame?
[11:20] <ajehuk> tbuss - my mistake
[11:20] <fiction> How do i check to see if apache is already running?
[11:21] <ajehuk> tbuss - should be /etc/init.d/apache stop
[11:21] <pestilence> mjgxtc: i have no idea what that is.
[11:21] <petr478> hello people. I came here to seek some advice for my soundcard failing. After filling pastebin with various dumps I noticed that "PCM" channel (I do not know it is) is muted. Problem solved. (I wish there were indication some program is trying to play though it.)
[11:21] <freelame> si blocca quando lo lascio acceso per un po senza usarlo
[11:21] <idefix> lgc: without checking if there is anything wrong with your fs its hard to say what to do... but if linux to boot up until a certain point its save to say that grub works.
[11:21] <syn_jet> fiction: http://localhost in browser
[11:21] <ferronica> Pelo: have you ever used ntfs-3g?
[11:21] <fiction> syn_jet: thanks
[11:21] <Gambaroni> When I try to install ubuntu using PXE and netboot.tar.gz it says when I would create my partitions that there's no root file system and no partitions, I could either create partitions. Win XP is installed. How do I solve it?
[11:21] <declan> Non mi succede questo. In che senso?
[11:21] <ajehuk> idefix - compressed initrd without support in the kernel?
[11:22] <lgc> idefix, I will have to do just that. Thanks.
[11:22] <ferronica> Pelo: right now mounted manullay editing fstab
[11:22] <ajehuk> idefix - or is it the other way round...
[11:22] <Bales> What do I do with a .run file?
[11:22] <idefix> ajehuk: dont think so - i think he didnt change the kernel just just pqmagic on win and after that linux didnt boot anymore.
[11:23] <freelame> per esempio se lascio acceso il computer per scaricare qualcosa, puntualmente dopo 1 ora circa si congela...
[11:23] <jshadias> what is the best way to duplicate "cd directory && do-command && cd original-directory"?
[11:23] <freelame> non da pi segni di vita
[11:23] <FiReFoX> #ubuntu-tr
[11:23] <ajehuk> idefix , hmm, - change in hd labels is a possible suspect then
[11:23] <DShepherd> Bales, make it executable and run it..
[11:23] <idefix> ajehuk: asked him. he said its still sda2 :)
[11:23] <erUSUL> Bales: maybe 'sh file.run' maybe 'chmod +x file.run && ./file.run' it depends
[11:24] <ajehuk> idefix - I'll but out then :)
[11:24] <fiction> syn_jet: ok it's on. but i can't find the file. it says IT WORKS. the url is localhost/apache2-default/ but i cant find the folder
[11:24] <fiction> any thoughts?
[11:24] <Lbawinowns> I can't write to my ntfs drives. Can I make them different type while keeping the data in them?
[11:24] <Bales> DShepherd: Alright, I'll give those a try...I'm a noob though
[11:24] <DShepherd> Bales, your in the right place :-)
[11:24] <Derek_Russo> so this is really weird.. I'm trying to pull my music onto banshee from my windows partition and it crashes every time I go to import the songs
[11:24] <syn_jet> fiction: it is in /var/www/apache2/ I guess you have to modify location of html docs
[11:24] <mcphail> Bales: ".run" doesn't really mean anything in the linux world
[11:25] <Bales> mcphail: I see.....
[11:25] <declan> Non sono esperto io, ma mi sembra che dovresti poter capire che cosa va male esaminando i logs. La volta dopo, quando avii il sistema, dovresti guardare qualcosa come il risultato di dmesg, oppure /var/log/qualcosa... non so io.
[11:25] <mcphail> Bales: a lot of installers use it as a file extension, though
[11:25] <yur2> hi folks, i'm trying to install ubuntu but i don't have a CD reader... I downloaded alternate feisty iso, and booted trougth network, but i want to use ISO on network server, but it seems to be downloading files from internet. How can i do it (Howto that i've followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet)
[11:25] <declan> Questo darebbe al'esperto un'idea chiara di quello che non funziona
[11:25] <Agrajag> !it | declan
[11:25] <ubotu> declan: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:25] <mjgxtc> pestilence: any ideas?
[11:25] <freelame> mm
[11:25] <freelame> mmm
[11:26] <DShepherd> Derek_Russo, wma's?
[11:26] <Ryak> I have attempted to get help in the #grub channel but have had no success.  Can anyone help me trouble shoot a screen that gets filled with "GRUB GRUB GRUB..." all over it?
[11:26] <fiction> syn_jet: thanks man
[11:26] <freelame> grazie comunque
[11:26] <syn_jet> fiction: no prob
[11:26] <ikonia> ryak how did you install grub - did you let the installer do it ?
[11:26] <declan> You're welcome... I hope you get it sorted out
[11:26] <Derek_Russo> DShepherd: some may be wma's, I'm not sure
[11:26] <ferronica> any one here using ntfs-3g i wanna to know is it okay to use it, better then manually editing fstab to mount NTFS?
[11:26] <ajehuk> Ryak - only really one thing I can suggest for that - rescue boot disk and re-install grub
[11:26] <Derek_Russo> DShepherd: I believe most are mp3
[11:26] <Ryak> I installed to an external hdd and allowed the loader to do it automatically to the default MBR
[11:27] <ikonia> ferronica: its not production ready
[11:27] <ferronica> which one is better to use ?
[11:27] <freelame> mi sa che provo a formulare la domanda in inglese... spero bene
[11:27] <Derek_Russo> DShepherd: I also cannot play them back (it has added a few before it crashed)
[11:27] <ikonia> Ryak: ahhh thats quite a common problem
[11:27] <ferronica> ikonia: sorry i didnt get you.
[11:27] <syn_jet> ferronica: I have used it.. it is good, but re-mapping later might.. might not be a great idea
[11:27] <ikonia> ferronica: its not production ready
[11:27] <DShepherd> hmm.. Derek_Russo is this a new install? you may need to install the codecs
[11:27] <ferronica> ikonia: okay
[11:27] <Bales> DShepherd: the file name is NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run and I downloaded it onto my desktop. Would you be able to tell me the exact command I should use?
[11:27] <Derek_Russo> DShepherd: where would I get the codecs?
[11:28] <ikonia> Ryak: external drives can change device id's quite a lot
[11:28] <freelame> hello, can somebody help me with my ubuntu?
[11:28] <declan> What information should freelame look for to understand his computer locking up randomly?
[11:28] <ajehuk> Bales
[11:28] <ikonia> Ryak: have you plugged it - unplugged it, moved it to a different computer etc etc
[11:28] <syn_jet> !ask>freelame
[11:28] <ajehuk> Bales bash NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[11:28] <Bales> ajehuk: yes?
[11:28] <Bales> ajehuk is that exactly what I type into my terminal?
[11:28] <ferronica> ikonia: syn_jet: you guys means better to use fstab to mount  NTFS :)
[11:28] <mjgxtc> can anyone assist with setting up a wireless card using RaLink chipset?
[11:28] <ikonia> ferronica: ntfs-3g has nothing to do with fstab
[11:28] <ajehuk> Bales - yes, - but you may need to do so as root
[11:28] <access> testing
[11:29] <DShepherd> Derek_Russo, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[11:29] <Ryak> I am able to edit the .lst file from Acronis by exploring the drive in Windows, but no I have not tried moving it to another machine
[11:29] <syn_jet> ferronica, yes that is the best
[11:29] <ikonia> Bales: I would not use external drivers if you don't have to
[11:29] <tbuss> ajehuk: thanks, looks like it worked http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15438/ (at the top)
[11:29] <ajehuk> Bales - if unsure do it as yourself first and see what it says -
[11:29] <ikonia> Ryak: this ins't a menu.lst problem
[11:29] <Derek_Russo> DShepherd: thanks
[11:29] <Ryak> ah
[11:29] <ferronica> ikonia: syn_jet: i mean  mounting manually
[11:29] <fiction> syn_jet: it was in the path you said. but apache.conf has "ServerRoot "/etc/apache2""
[11:29] <ikonia> ferronica: ntfs-3g is nothing to do with mounting it manually
[11:29] <DShepherd> sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run # try that..
[11:30] <foo> What's the best way to check the integrity of an mp3? (that it's actually an mp3 file, without listening to it)... linux command line stuff would be prefered. I've checked lame, didn't see anything too useful in the man page.
[11:30] <robersonfox> hi
[11:30] <ajehuk> tbuss - good, thats fine then - if you have removed apache the problem should not re-occur
[11:30] <Bales> ajehuk: On both accounts, it said no such file or directory....
[11:30] <robersonfox> i hav a ACER ASPIRE
[11:30] <robersonfox> and
[11:30] <yur2> Hello! I wanna some help with PXE Boot and Ubuntu install using an ISO instead a CD or DVD.. Could you help me?
[11:30] <ikonia> Bales: why do you want to use the external drivers
[11:30] <robersonfox> i dont know how install my CNX FAX MODEM
[11:30] <robersonfox> this is a SMARTCP FAX MODEM
[11:30] <ajehuk> tbuss - just one note - and that is you can run apache and and apache2 cocurrently- just set them to use different ports
[11:30] <syn_jet> fiction: create a test index.html in /var/www/ and see again in browser by http://localhost
[11:30] <ikonia> yur2: what part do you want help with
[11:30] <ferronica> ikonia: i am not talking about ntfs-3g now. there is way to mount NTFS partition manually gedit fstab
[11:31] <robersonfox> somebory hav any idea, howto install it
[11:31] <Bales> ikonia: The drivers i have been using don't work with Cedega
[11:31] <awenasidilisome> hey all
[11:31] <Bales> ikonia: and BF2142
[11:31] <ikonia> ferronica: do you have a question - if so ask it
[11:31] <declan> I have a similar question to foo: how do I ran flac -t on all the flacs in a number of embedded folders: recursively? Anyone know?
[11:31] <ikonia> Bales: what makes you think its the drivers ?
[11:31] <Bales> ikonia: Is there a better way of getting the newest drivers?
[11:31] <freelame> after an hour of unused time, my ubuntu will lock ..
[11:31] <Bales> ikonia: when I tried before, it said I needed to update drivers or something like that....
[11:31] <pestilence> declan: find -name "*.flac" -exec flac -t \{\} \;
[11:31] <tbuss> ajehuk: okay, good to know, thanks for your help again ajehuk
[11:31] <robersonfox> i hav a ACER ASPIRE AND
[11:31] <robersonfox> i dont know how install my CNX FAX MODEM
[11:31] <robersonfox> somebory hav any idea, howto install it
[11:32] <syn_jet> freelame: lock or freeze?
[11:32] <ikonia> Bales: I guess you'll have to use the external drivers then
[11:32] <mjgxtc> can anyone assist with setting up a wireless card using RaLink chipset?
[11:32] <declan> That looks good, pestilence: I will try it. Thanks
[11:32] <ajehuk> Bales - sorry, You need to be in the directory that the file is in to run the command - I wasnt thinking.  I suggest you launch Xterm, cd into the directory that the file is in , then type 'bash' or '/bin/bash' leave a space and then enter the file name then hit return.  the file not found refers to bash not finginf a file to execure
[11:32] <ajehuk> *eecute
[11:32] <ajehuk> tbuss : np
[11:32] <Bales> ajehuk: what's Xterm?
[11:32] <ajehuk> *execure <- damnit
[11:32] <ferronica> ikonia: --->i used "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" to mount my ntfs is it okay
[11:32] <ikonia> ferronica: what do you mean "is it ok" ?
[11:32] <ompaul> !modem >  robersonfox (robersonfox, please read message from bot break that into two parts, (A) modem (B) halafax software do part one first))
[11:32] <ajehuk> bakes - a terminal window, pressing alt+F2 and typing xterm into the prompt will work
[11:33] <ajehuk> Bales - ^^ - although any terminal will be fine
[11:33] <freelame> freeze I think.. i can't use it, i can only press reset to restart system..
[11:33] <yur2> so, thank everybody for attention on my question...
[11:33] <Fathefner> how do u set the screen resolution in ubuntu
[11:33] <ikonia> yur2: what part of pxe booting do you need help with ?
[11:33] <ferronica> ikonia: nothing sorry
[11:33] <jrib> Fathefner: system > preferences > screen resoltuion
[11:33] <ikonia> Fathefner: gnome - has a display option
[11:34] <Bales> ajehuk: Alright, I know how to change directories, so I got that under control. Now, when it actually gets going, it says X is running, and I need to close X. Which I think is the Ctrl+Alt+Bksp if I'm not mistaken
[11:34] <yur2> ow, thanks for answer me ikonia
[11:34] <Bales> ajehuk: is that correct?
[11:34] <ikonia> yur2: I've asked you 2 times
[11:34] <Derek_Russo> DShepherd: did the trick, thanks
[11:34] <fiction> syn_jet: yes, thats the directory to keep the web files. however, i'd like to change to another dir, but i dont see it in the confi file
[11:34] <freelame> freeze I think.. i can't use it, i can only press reset to restart system..
[11:34] <Fathefner> anybut is there away that i can set it higher
[11:34] <yur2> i can boot ubuntu alternate install by network
[11:34] <DShepherd> Derek_Russo, great..
[11:34] <ajehuk> Bales - if it needs to be run outside of your X session then there are a few things that need to be done
[11:34] <ikonia> yur2: thats great
[11:35] <holycow> would anyone know how to get network manager back as an icon in the system tray ... reinstalling it didn't work
[11:35] <ajehuk> Bales, and doing them will get rid of your desktop - temporarily - and leave you in a large terminal
[11:35] <yur2> but i don't know how to use iso located in webserver (see what howto i used in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet)
[11:35] <ditoa> hi
[11:35] <fiction> holycow: i was asking the same thing yesterday =[
[11:35] <Bales> ajehuk: Alright, It hink I know what you're talking about
[11:35] <ajehuk> Bales : so I suggest that you write these steps down
[11:35] <Lbawinowns> IS there any command to install all .deb packages in a folder?
[11:35] <holycow> fiction, no luck eh?
[11:35] <eternaljoy> if I install Ubuntu on my 2nd HDD, will Ubuntu install Grub on the 2nd HDD or the first one?
[11:35] <Bales> ajehuk: alright, pen ready
[11:35] <fiction> holycow: nope
[11:35] <tony2> quit
[11:35] <Derek_Russo> DShepherd: might have spoke too soon, it got pretty far adn then crashed in a similar fashion again.  Maybe there are more codecs I need?
[11:36] <jrib> Lbawinowns: sudo dpkg -i *.deb     why would you need to do this?
[11:36] <eternaljoy> jrib: could u tell me? :)
[11:36] <ajehuk> Bales : 1) you will need to switch to a different TTY - this can be acieved by using the key combination CTL+ALT+1
[11:36] <Lbawinowns> I'm desperately trying to install some pascal folder
[11:36] <ajehuk> Bales : 2)
[11:36] <jrib> eternaljoy: I'm not sure
[11:36] <Lbawinowns> some pascal compiler*
[11:36] <ajehuk> Bales : 2) then you need to log in
[11:36] <eternaljoy> jrib: ok np
[11:36] <freelame> somebody can help me?
[11:36] <DShepherd> Derek_Russo, hmmm... I guess.. I wonder what files its crashing on ...
[11:36] <Gambaroni> When I try to install ubuntu using PXE and netboot.tar.gz it says when I would create my partitions that there's no root file system and no partitions, I could either create partitions. Win XP is installed. How do I solve it?
[11:36] <mjgxtc> can anyone assist with setting up a wireless card using RaLink chipset?
[11:36] <ajehuk> Bales : 3) then you will need to cd to the directory where the file is located
[11:36] <clearze1> freelame: what problem are you having?
[11:36] <Derek_Russo> I can't really tell, DShepherd.  It's getting through some of the files
[11:36] <rangeri> alright? just installed my first linux ever.. just one question, my mouse cursor weirdly accelerates on top of clickable buttons, how do i turn it off
[11:36] <jrib> Lbawinowns: I'm sure there is one in the repositories, did you search?
[11:36] <Derek_Russo> the ones it wasn't getting through before
[11:37] <Bales> ajehuk: ALright, I've done all these things before, so I think I know what I'm doing
[11:37] <Lbawinowns> I searched and install, but there are no programs added :-/
[11:37] <Fathefner> can i set the resolution higher
[11:37] <ikonia> yur2: what part, as your pxe config just points at the url for the install process
[11:37] <ditoa> is anyone running ubuntu in vmware workstation?
[11:37] <ajehuk> you will then have to close the X server, you can do this using the command 'killall gdm' or killall kdm'
[11:37] <DShepherd> Bales, check out that page ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:37] <jrib> Lbawinowns: they are probably comman line programs
[11:37] <idefix> eternaljoy: probably on the 1st hd cauz installing it on the 2nd doesnt do much for u, only if you install it to the partitions bootsect and chainload it.
[11:37] <Lbawinowns> hmm...
[11:37] <ajehuk> Bales : 4) you will then have to close the X server, you can do this using the command 'killall gdm' or killall kdm'
[11:37] <freelame> my system freeze after an hour of inactivity, and I can only reset the computer
[11:37] <eternaljoy> idefix: I can boot from 2nd HDD
[11:37] <syn_jet> fiction: I guess you have to change the parameter "ServerRoot "/etc/apache2"" appropriately so that it points to the directory tree where you have the files residing
[11:37] <Bales> ajehuk: one problem I always run into though, is that once I'm in that "large terminal," I can never get back to my desktop without restarting my computer. Is there a way to do this?
[11:38] <eternaljoy> idefix: so why not?
[11:38] <mjgxtc> can anyone assist with setting up a wireless card using RaLink chipset?
[11:38] <Bales> ajehuk: Got everything written down.
[11:38] <ajehuk> Bales : 5) then run the script, 'bash *whatever the file name is*
[11:38] <ajehuk> Bales - that OK?
[11:38] <Lbawinowns> Do I have to compile in a textfile and then compile with a command line -.-?  what a downgrade from delphi
[11:38] <idefix> eternaljoy: u mean via bios setting?
[11:38] <DShepherd> sorry Bales.. not you..
[11:38] <clearze1> freelame: do you have a second computer that you could ssh into the frozen computer with?
[11:38] <ajehuk> Bales - just one more thing
[11:38] <DShepherd> Derek_Russo,  check out that page ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:38] <Bales> ajehuk: uh-huh
[11:38] <DShepherd> Derek_Russo, hope that helps..
[11:38] <freelame> no, sorry
[11:38] <eternaljoy> idefix: if I press ESC during POST, I get option which HDD to boot from
[11:39] <yur2> ikonia: so, how can i can do network install like a normal install, with the installer getting files from apache webserver?
[11:39] <Kazz> ditoa: I'm not running it in VMWare right now, but I've run the 64 bit version in VMWare under xp and vista without problems.
[11:39] <ikonia> yur2: can you see the part in the howto where your create the ".cfg" file
[11:39] <eternaljoy> is there a way I can boot Ubuntu from my 2nd HDD, without Ubuntu touching my 1st HDD bootsectors?
[11:39] <dan__> lhost
[11:39] <yur2> yes, i can
[11:39] <ajehuk> Bales - I have no idea what that script will do to your PC, so you may have issues getting back into a desktop session - but either reboot or type gdm/kdm to get back into one -
[11:39] <idefix> eternaljoy: depends on what ur bios does but installing it to the mbr on the second hd /dev/hdb or /dev/sdb should be ok if you do that.
[11:39] <yur2> ikonia: i created it
[11:39] <mjgxtc> can anyone assist with setting up a wireless card using RaLink chipset?
[11:39] <clearze1> freelame: In order to help you I would have to have more details on what is running on the system when it freezes. Does it freeze everytime the screensave kicks on? What is scheduled to activate on your system after an hour of inactivity?
[11:39] <ikonia> eternaljoy: does your motherboard support boot selection
[11:40] <ajehuk> Bales - oh and hope :)
[11:40] <ikonia> yur2: that file should point at the repo your going to install from
[11:40] <eternaljoy> idefix: ok! so how do I tell Ubuntu to install Grub on the 2nd HDD?
[11:40] <mjgxtc> ?
[11:40] <ikonia> yur2: as it shows in the example
[11:40] <eternaljoy> ikonia: yes! if I press ESC during POST, I get option which HDD to boot from
[11:40] <Bales> ajehuk: The most important part of any Linux step-by-step: Hope.
[11:40] <ikonia> eternaljoy: so boot from the ubuntu disk
[11:40] <idefix> eternaljoy: grub-install /dev/hdb
[11:40] <yur2> ikonia: let me see, a moment
[11:40] <Lbawinowns> Seriously tough, someone knwo the right command line I must use for compiling pascal project files?
[11:40] <meal3837> update notifier keeps telling me download image 2.6.20-14, but i can't. I get a 403 restricted error
[11:40] <ajehuk> mjgxtc - still there?
[11:41] <ikonia> Lbawinowns: you need a pascal compiler
[11:41] <Lbawinowns> Yea
[11:41] <clearze1> Lbawinowns: wow ppl still write pascal programs
[11:41] <ikonia> Lbawinowns: search the repo for one
[11:41] <meal3837> and i just updated to the 2.6.20-15 image, and it's still telling me about 14
[11:41] <Bales> ajehuk: Alright, thanks a ton, Im gonna go give that a shot
[11:41] <yur2> ikonia: here?
[11:41] <yur2> preseed/url=http://192.168.1.7/preseed-breezy.cfg
[11:41] <eternaljoy> ikonia: how can I do that if Grub isnt on 2nd HDD?
[11:41] <meal3837> andy way to get it to stop notifying me about that?
[11:41] <meal3837> *any
[11:41] <idefix> eternaljoy: u might have to change /boot/grub/device.map depending on what ur bios does when u select booting from the 2nd hd
[11:41] <ikonia> meal3837: its a known issue
[11:41] <Kazz> eternaljoy: Are you going to use a boot loader from the first hard drive to call Grub on the second, or do you just not want to risk putting it on the first drive for some reason?
[11:41] <ikonia> meal3837: fesity is broke
[11:41] <ikonia> meal3837: see the topic in #ubuntu+1
[11:42] <eternaljoy> idefix: thats a catch 22. How can I run grub-install /dev/hdb if Ubuntu wont boot from the 2nd HDD?
[11:42] <ikonia> yur2: I can't see the url 192.168.x
[11:42] <yur2> ikonia: so, i have to point to my webserver ip, is just it
[11:42] <darksoule> Hello. I have Ubuntu on another computer however it won't shut down. When I try I get message 'usb.c: USB disconnect on device 2' and it stops. How do I correct this so the computer can properly shut down?
[11:42] <ikonia> yur2: no
[11:42] <fiction> !networkmanager
[11:42] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[11:42] <ikonia> yur2: your config file needs to point at an ubuntu repo
[11:42] <syn_jet> fiction: I might be wrong.. it is easier and better to have the files moved to /var/www and not mess around with apache conf
[11:42] <eternaljoy> Kazz: my first HDD contains another OS and I dont want it touched.  Can I install Ubuntu on my 2nd HDD and have Grub on that only?
[11:42] <Kazz> eternaljoy: You should be able to set it in your BIOS so that the second hard drive is the one that it boots from, if that's all you need.
[11:42] <fiction> !networkmanager > holycow
[11:42] <yur2> ikonia: i have a link to a ubuntu local repo in my webserver
[11:43] <sgtmattbaker> hello.. I used dd to backup and restore my Windows partition but when I restored and booted into Windows and ran chkdsk I got an error message, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15441/   please help
[11:43] <ikonia> yur2: ok - that should be fine
[11:43] <kingcobra> hello
[11:43] <eternaljoy> Kazz: I can do that allready!  arent yuou listening dude? :LOL
[11:43] <fiction> syn_jet: but if localhost is reading files from /var/www...then that has to be set somewhere in the config though
[11:43] <Kazz> eternaljoy: Apparently not...<laugh>
[11:43] <Kazz> I missed somethin' there, just a sec. ;)
[11:43] <ikonia> sgtmattbaker: thats a windows issue
[11:44] <yur2> ikonia: cool! i'll try! thank you... you made my belief on this channel turn back!
[11:44] <ajehuk> sgtmattbaker - giz a sec
[11:44] <Pelo> sgtmattbaker,  that sounds suspiciously like a windows question  try ##windows
[11:44] <freelame> clearzel: it freeze every time, with or without internet connection or an application running.. i have changed the screen saver but nothing .. I don't now how I can find the scheduler
[11:44] <ikonia> yur2: don't worry - if you have specific problems, come back and we'll walk through them
[11:44] <syn_jet> fixtion, I think it is like the "inetpub" folder in MS-IIS, where the files have to be present there..
[11:44] <sgtmattbaker> ikonia: wouldn't it be a dd issue?? that Windows install was BRAND NEW
[11:44] <yur2> ikonia: ok! thank you again
[11:44] <fiction> syn_jet: let me check
[11:44] <freelame> clearzel: it freeze every time, with or without internet connection or an application running.. i have changed the screen saver but nothing .. I don't know how I can find the scheduler
[11:44] <idefix> eternaljoy: boot from the live cd mount the boot part on the 2nd hd and run grub-install --root-directory=/whereverumountedit /dev/sdb
[11:45] <Bales> ajehuk: Alright, thanks a ton. It appears to be working. Is there any way to know for sure if it is?
[11:45] <ikonia> sgtmattbaker: some interesting things 1.) your backing up /dev/sda - not the partition /dev/sda1 - where is your OF locatated
[11:45] <ajehuk> Bales - I have no idea as to what it does - I use ATI cards not NVidia - sorry
[11:45] <darksoule> My shutdown freezes at 'usb.c: USB disconnect on device 2' How do I correct this?
[11:45] <eternaljoy> idefix: I have MS windows on 1st HDD.  But I want that left alone!  If I press ESC during POST, I can chose to boot from 2nd HDD. So my question is..  Can I install Ubuntu and Grub on the 2nd HDD, without it touching my 1st HDD MBR?
[11:45] <kingcobra> can anybody tell me whats an easy tool for a bootable disk that can read sata hds and ntfs
[11:45] <mpetersen> Can anyone tell me how to apt-get dist-upgrade to feisty ignoring the latest kernel (forbidden)?  I have a half updated system.
[11:45] <idefix> eternaljoy: u might be abel to do it with chroot.. try to google it its a comman problem
[11:45] <Bales> ajehuk: Ohhhhh, alright, well, thakns anyway!
[11:45] <freelame> the screen saver start after 10 minutes
[11:45] <manv> #join ubuntuusers
[11:45] <eternaljoy> idefix: YOU are NOT helping at all
[11:45] <ikonia> sgtmattbaker: I see what your trying to do
[11:45] <Bales> ajehuk: And thanks a ton for your help, it's greatly appreciated!
[11:46] <ajehuk> Bales - no probs,
[11:46] <sgtmattbaker> ikonia: I backed up the MBR and then the windows partition (I think)
[11:46] <Kazz> eternaljoy: We already said yes, you can.  I have installed windows and Linux on the same drive many times and I don't think you really need to worry, but if you're worried then yes, you can do it that way.
[11:46] <ikonia> sgtmattbaker: the bottom line is windows chkdsk application doesn't like the file system
[11:46] <thiSparta> hello
[11:46] <ikonia> sgtmattbaker: therefore its a windows issue
[11:46] <thiSparta> can anyone help
[11:46] <ikonia> thiSparta: you have to ask a question to get help
[11:46] <thiSparta> Package smbfs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:46] <thiSparta> _ErNeStO_ This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:46] <thiSparta> _ErNeStO_ is only available from another source
[11:46] <sgtmattbaker> ikonia: that doesn't make any sense.. dd doesn't change the filesystem
[11:46] <thiSparta> ikonia,
[11:47] <mpetersen> Can anyone tell me how to apt-get dist-upgrade to feisty ignoring the latest kernel (forbidden)?  I have a half updated system.
[11:47] <ikonia> sgtmattbaker: I didn't say it did - but chkdsk doesn't like the file system
[11:47] <ajehuk> sgtmattbaker - no reason why the problem couldnt have beeen on the filesystem before you ran dd
[11:47] <thiSparta>   ikonia  want tto mount a shared  drive
[11:47] <eternaljoy> Kazz: ROFL!!!!!!!!!!
[11:47] <thiSparta>   ikonia  want tto mount a shared   windows drive
[11:47] <eternaljoy> Kazz: go back to bed :)
[11:47] <kane77> mpetersen, use update manager and uncheck the kernel....
[11:47] <clearze1> freelame: I would suggest getting to a second pc and ssh into the frozen system then run pstree and see what is running. I really couldn't tell you how to fix the problem without looking at the system while it was frozen.
[11:47] <ikonia> thiSparta: it means a package you want is refering to a package that no longer exists
[11:47] <Pelo> mpetersen,  try asking in #ubuntu+1
[11:47] <eternaljoy> Kazz: im not talkinf about SAME drive dude
[11:47] <mpetersen> kane77: from a command line?
[11:47] <ikonia> mpetersen: fesity is broke
[11:47] <kane77> mpetersen, no the gui tool
[11:47] <idefix> eternaljoy: what kazz said
[11:47] <Kazz> eternaljoy: If you already have Ubuntu installed, what idefix said about booting from the Live CD and installing Grub should work, otherwise hopefully there's an option in the installer to put it on another drive.  If not, you should be able to skip the boot loader step and then boot from the Live CD and install it that way.
[11:47] <clearze1> freelame:It could be a lot of things basicly
[11:47] <thiSparta> ikonia,  any ideas of urls  that may help ?
[11:48] <mpetersen> kane77: can I do it from the cli?
[11:48] <ajehuk> sgtmattbaker - just as a point though as to what you are trying to do - I do all my base backups in the same way (mostly for use in qemu) -= havent seen a problem yet...
[11:48] <Spee_Der> Hello. I'm back again. Hope all are well.
[11:48] <ikonia> thiSparta: urls for what ?? your missing a package - it doesn't exist
[11:48] <Derek_Russo> I have a really strange problem with dvd playback using gxine - the screen goes black randomly, for a few secodns
[11:48] <kane77> mpetersen, i'd say yes, but I dont know how...
[11:48] <sgtmattbaker> ikonia: I guess I should have checked if it did that before I backed it up.. maybe the install didn't go right.. I did a full NTFS format with the live CD.. dangit I guess I am going to ##windows.. they probably won't even know what dd is
[11:48] <Derek_Russo> When I try ti play dvds with any other player, it says it doesn't recognize the dvd
[11:48] <mpetersen> ikonia: I want to upgrade (I'm partially there) using the latest working kernel.
[11:48] <syn_jet> Derek_Russo: do you have desktop-effects enabled? I had similar probs
[11:48] <ikonia> sgtmattbaker: why did you format the ntfs partition from ubuntu ??
[11:49] <ajehuk> Derek_Russo - possibly a silly question - but are you on a single monitor machine? I've had the same issue when using multiple monitors
[11:49] <freelame> mmm
[11:49] <Kazz> eternaljoy: You just aren't reading what I'm saying carefully enough...I just said that there shouldn't be a problem *if you did* install it on the same drive, I know you don't want to, but I was telling you that it shouldn't cause any problems and it would be easier.  I then went on to say more about what you actually want to do, so please re-read what I said. ;)
[11:49] <ikonia> mpetersen: but the latest isn't available as other packages depend on it
[11:49] <Derek_Russo> syn_jet: what kind of desktop effects?
[11:49] <mpetersen> kane77: Thanks.  I think I could possibly do it with apt-pinning, but I don't really know how.
[11:49] <ikonia> mpetersen: fesity is broke
[11:49] <eternaljoy> Kazz: go back to bed :)
[11:49] <sgtmattbaker> ikonia: I didn't.. the Windows installer CD did it
[11:49] <Derek_Russo> ajehuk: yes, single monitor
[11:49] <Kazz> Alright, alright...
[11:49] <ectospasm> anyone have any experience with giFT?  I can't for the life of me get any of the clients I've used (giFToxic and giFTui) to do anything.  The searches return no hits, and I can't do anything else...
[11:49] <kingcobra> does anybody know a live cd that has good support for ntfs writing and sata hds or could you tel me where i should ask
[11:49] <ikonia> sgtmattbaker: ahh you said the livecd - I got confused
[11:49] <eternaljoy> Kazz: you are either tripping, or brain dead :)
[11:49] <ikonia> kingcobra: the package is ntfs-3g and its unstable for production use
[11:49] <Spee_Der> night kane
[11:49] <ajehuk> Derek_Russo - then it definatley isnt a xinerama related dri issue, and I have no experience of it - sorry - someone else may be better informed
[11:49] <syn_jet> Derek_Russo: forget it, it might not be the issue in your case (I was refering to the aiglx-compiz)
[11:49] <Kazz> eternaljoy: No, you're just not reading what I said very carefully, but whatever...good luck. ;)
[11:50] <kane77> night all
[11:50] <eternaljoy> Kazz: LOL :)
[11:50] <Derek_Russo> Alright
[11:50] <mpetersen> ikonia: I can't upgrade and use linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.22_i386.deb   instead of linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb?
[11:50] <freelame> somebody know how I can enable 3d acceleration of my sis650
[11:50] <mpetersen> night kane
[11:50] <Derek_Russo> Any ideas why totem won't recognize my dvd?
[11:50] <eternaljoy> how can I install Grub on my second HDD?  Whats the command I type from Ubuntu?
[11:50] <ikonia> mpetersen: you can but its pointless as other things will be broke due to dependencies
[11:50] <Flannel> !grub | eternaljoy, first lin
[11:50] <thiSparta> ikonia,  i need to mount a  shared windows drive surlley ubuntu has a wiki or you can help me on that
[11:50] <ubotu> eternaljoy, first lin: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:50] <sgtmattbaker> ikonia: so what should I do?? reinstall Windows.. again?!  argg I have been trying to find good ways to back it up for a week and thought I finally got it working
[11:51] <syn_jet> Derek_Russo: you have the required codecs?
[11:51] <ikonia> thiSparta: http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:51] <ikonia> sgtmattbaker: try asking in #windows for chkdsk support ?
[11:51] <mpetersen> ikonia: Ok... so what depends on linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb  ?  I were there a whole bunch of packages updates since that kernel was released?
[11:51] <Derek_Russo> syn_jet: I don't know.. I can run dvds with gxine, but that's the only program I've gotten to work
[11:51] <syn_jet> !multimedia>Derek_Russo
[11:51] <Derek_Russo> syn_jet: do you knwo where I could find codecs to install?
[11:51] <ikonia> mpetersen: I don't know off the top of my head - but fesity is broke
[11:51] <freelame> somebody know how I can enable 3d acceleration of my sis650?
[11:51] <syn_jet> derek_Russo: see ubotu's links
[11:51] <ikonia> freelame: the sis driver are weak
[11:51] <eternaljoy> is the command: grub-install /dev/hdb ?
[11:51] <sgtmattbaker> ikonia: but dd wouldn't have messed anything up would it??  can I use that way to back my install up?
[11:52] <mpetersen> ikonie: well, lets say I wanted to try, how could I tell apt to get linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.22_i386.deb  and ignore linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb?
[11:52] <ajehuk> freelame - I dont think you can 3d drivers for sis yet - if someone knows better please pipe up - I have a laptop that could use them too
[11:52] <kingcobra> ikonia, ok thanx
[11:52] <darksoule> Can someone help me? I am messing up my computer trying to shut it down because it freezes on "usb.c: USB disconnect on device 2"
[11:52] <ikonia> sgtmattbaker: shouldn't have done - but sizing and rounding errors can cause it to
[11:52] <Derek_Russo> ah yeah, I had read that before... that's why I went with gxine
[11:52] <Derek_Russo> my only problem with gxine is the blackout things
[11:52] <rangeri> anyone know how to turn off "mouse accelerating over buttons and links"-feature in ubuntu? :)
[11:52] <ajehuk> sgtmattbaker - dd works fine to back up ANY type of filesystem image
[11:52] <syn_jet> Derek_russo: try totem
[11:53] <mpetersen> ikonia: well, lets say I wanted to try, how could I tell apt to get linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.22_i386.deb  and ignore linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb?
[11:53] <ikonia> mpetersen: fesity is broke - just wait until its fixed
[11:53] <ajehuk> sgtmattbaker - I pretty much guarantee it - only times I have seen it fail is on faulty hardware
[11:53] <mpetersen> fine.
[11:53] <mpetersen> you think it will be fixed over the weekend?
[11:53] <Derek_Russo> syn_jet: but totem doesn't support dvd menus, which I need
[11:53] <mpetersen> I really just wanted live-package of all things... maybe I should install etch
[11:53] <ikonia> mpetersen: I have no idea - thats the price you pay for using beta software - its unstable
[11:53] <DShepherd> mpetersen, hopefully.. we'll just have to wait and see
[11:53] <Kazz> Derek_Russo: Totem normally uses gstreamer I believe, so you'd need the gstreamer DVD stuff.  Make sure you have the extra repositories enabled (universe/multivers/etc.) to make sure you can find it when you search in Synaptic.
[11:53] <trollo> hallo
[11:54] <ikonia> h
[11:54] <ikonia> i
[11:54] <Kazz> ikonia: There is a 2.4.20-15 out now, which I installed and am going to reboot with in a couple of mins.
[11:54] <syn_jet> Derek_Russo: then best bet is vlc I guess
[11:54] <atomiku> I wanna move my home dir to another partition, How would I do this? I know I would first mount the partition, then cp -r the files over to it... but... what then?
[11:54] <Kazz> Then hopefully I can remove -14.
[11:54] <Derek_Russo> syn_jet: what is vlc?
[11:54] <mpetersen> I know betas break...  I just thought I could get things running with the linux-image-2.6.20-14
[11:54] <syn_jet> !vlc>Derek_Russo
[11:54] <ikonia> Kazz: 15.24 is out
[11:54] <ajehuk> Derek_Russo - VLC is your best bet - if you have the same issue there then start looking at X
[11:54] <syn_jet> !vlc>syn_jet
[11:54] <ikonia> mpetersen: the fact that you don't know how to use the package manager suggests you are not in a position to make betas in a broke position "work"
[11:55] <Kazz> ikonia: I'll make sure I have the latest one before I reboot I guess, but that's probably what I have. :)
[11:55] <mpetersen> ikonia: well if X wasn't half working I could do the  synaptic thing...
[11:55] <mpetersen> or maybe I should say half broken.
[11:55] <ikonia> mpetersen: that still wouldn't work
[11:55] <ajehuk> mpetersen - thats a bad way of fixing things - you are likley to cause more issues, what is it you are trying to fix?
[11:55] <ikonia> ajehuk: exactly
[11:55] <Kazz> atomiku: -r may not be enough to get all of the hidden files and everything, I can't remember what the best options would be, but I think maybe you need -a too.  After that, you edit /etc/fstab and point /home to the new partition.
[11:56] <atomiku> Kazz: thanks
[11:56] <kneeki|atwork> Has anyone here used Synergy with 'nix? When I type 'synergyc -f desktop-pc' I get a 'synergyc command not found' error. I think this is more of a generic 'nix ignorance problem however.
[11:56] <Kazz> No problem. :)
[11:56] <kneeki|atwork> Any tips?
[11:56] <mpetersen> ajehuk: I have a partially installed feisty system..  I just want to pin the kernel to linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.22 instead linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.23
[11:56] <ajehuk> ikonia - although people who are not great with linux ARE the best people to use beta's - they see things others miss :)
[11:56] <mpetersen> I doubt much really needs the minor upgrade
[11:56] <abcdef> anyone knows why i can't install firefox dom inspector?
[11:56] <syn_jet> kneeki}atwork: have you installed synergy2?
[11:56] <atomiku> Hmmm
[11:56] <abcdef> i use firefox 2.0.0.3
[11:56] <atomiku> So... what exactly do I add to the fstab...
[11:56] <ikonia> ajehuk: I agree with that - but then they try to "fix" or do "work arounds" rather than reporting it. Those people are the ones who expect it to work
[11:57] <syn_jet> kneeki|atwork: sudo apt-get install synergy2
[11:57] <kneeki|atwork> syn_jet: I didn't know there was a Synergy2.
[11:57] <atomiku> I'm at a loss at what to do here
[11:57] <idefix> atomiku: dont forget to delete the old stuff when u r SURE u copyed everything.
[11:57] <kneeki|atwork> syn_jet: I'll try that. One sec
[11:57] <atomiku> idefix: yeah
[11:57] <yomero_> server eu.undenret.org
[11:57] <ajehuk> mpetersen - thats actually fairly simple - if I understand you propely - you dont want to upgrade your kernel anymore?
[11:57] <atomiku> I was gonna make a startup script to mount
[11:57] <sgtmattbaker> ajehuk: wouldn't chkdsk have returned an error a bit more serious that some free space is said to be allocated if my hard drive was failing.. wouldn't I also have issues booting w. it or writing to it?
[11:57] <eternaljoy> can someone tell me how I can install Grub on my 2nd HDD so I can boot Ubuntu from my 2nd HDD?
[11:57] <atomiku> but I guess fstab is better... I just dont know what to add
[11:57] <kneeki|atwork> syn_jet: Could not find package: synergy2
[11:57] <darksoule> How do I shut down my computer?
[11:57] <ajehuk> ikonia - too true - bug reports from hosed systems are usually not helpful
[11:57] <mpetersen> ajehuk:  I want to force the kernel upgrade to linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.22 instead of linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.23 using apt, yes.
[11:57] <ikonia> eternaljoy: you've been told about 10 times
[11:57] <Pelo> eternaljoy,  ask the lovely ppl in #grub
[11:58] <ikonia> mpetersen: just wait !
[11:58] <mpetersen> ikonia: he said it was simple...
[11:58] <foxiness> atomiku: may better to read some how-to or doc on the web
[11:58] <mpetersen> if I had done this 2 days ago I'd be where I want to be...
[11:58] <foxiness> atomiku: and there are a lot
[11:58] <atomiku> foxiness: okay cool, thanks
[11:58] <syn_jet> kneeki|atwork: it was synergy2 on 6.10 version, now apt-cache shows it is synergy.. so you must have installed it.. did you edit the config file?
[11:58] <ikonia> mpetersen: but you didn't so just wait for the fix and update again
[11:58] <Kazz> atomiku: There's already a line in fstab containing /home and it points to your current home partition.  Just change the line to be the new partition (like /dev/sdb3 instead of /dev/hda2 for example).  Remember what you change it from in case you need to change it back because the new copy doesn't work right.
[11:58] <clearze1> darksoule: There should be a icon in the upper right of you pc. It should look like a door with a arrow. or sudo shutdown -h now
[11:58] <ajehuk> mpetersen - OK then take a look at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html - if you have a problem with that get back to me and we will work trhough it with a pastebin and your current configs - Let me grab a smoke and a coffee first though :)
[11:59] <kneeki|atwork> syn_jet: Yes, but the config file is only used for the servers. The unbuntu PC is the client
[11:59] <ajehuk> mpetersen - the section you want on that page is 3.10
[11:59] <atomiku> Kazz: not for me...
[11:59] <comhack> Hello all I just installed Ubuntu Feisty and for some reason my sound is low but all the sliders in sound applet and alsamixer are all high
[11:59] <mpetersen> ajehuk: ok then... thanks.
[11:59] <Flannel> comhack: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[11:59] <Kazz> atomiku: Ah, so your home directory is currently just part of your main partition?
[11:59] <comhack> thanks
[11:59] <syn_jet> kneeki|atwork: nope, even the client needs to know what is on its left/right
[11:59] <kneeki|atwork> syn_jet: In the 'tutorial' all it says I have to do is download the files to a folder, and type 'synergyc -f hostname'
[11:59] <thiSparta> ikonia,  is 5.04  what edggy fieisty  Dapper Drake  ? whay of the 3 ?
[11:59] <ikonia> thiSparta: what ???
[11:59] <Flannel> thiSparta: 5.04 is Warty.  That's... two before Dapper
[12:00] <Pelo> comhack,  for fiesty help ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:00] <kneeki|atwork> syn_jet: well, it is configured *shrug*. I didn't even know that it used the file
[12:00] <mpetersen> ajehuk: I see now..  I knew I needed to pin it, I just could only find info on pinning whole repositories... thanks.
[12:00] <Seveas> Flannel, 5.04 is Hoary
[12:00] <Kazz> atomiku: Just a second, I'll message you the line from my fstab.
[12:00] <Seveas> 4.10 is Warty
[12:00] <Flannel> Seveas: Er, right.  I knew that.  Sorry thiSparta