=== kbrooks [n=kbrooks@d235-141-58.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Generation [n=professo@c-24-0-251-222.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:25] ok here [12:26] Generation: hello [12:26] jrib, hey [12:26] Im such a noob [12:26] in all things [12:26] Generation: ok, what are you trying to do exactly? Are you just curious about what is in there? [12:26] I want to really learn the command line [12:26] it's ok, it's just new to you. Everyone started that way [12:26] So I am trying to get into files to explore [12:26] !cli | Generation [12:26] Generation: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands [12:27] Generation: the link at the bottom of that page, to linuxcommand.org is excellent [12:27] Generation: but lets figure out what's going wrong with what you are doing now [12:27] ok [12:28] Generation: ok, so I can know where you are at, what does this command return: pwd [12:28] its says home and professor [12:28] LOL [12:28] Generation: it's best if you just copy and paste exactly what it says [12:28] Generation, He wants you to copy and paste what it says. [12:28] do you mind if I insert a link ? [12:29] bodhi_zazen, go on... but it better be good. [12:29] man I am so lost lol [12:29] http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/CommandLineBeginners [12:29] it wont let me copy it [12:30] Generation: right click > copy [12:30] ctrl c wont work in command line [12:30] ok [12:30] /home/professor [12:30] Generation: if you want to use the keyboard, you can use ctrl-shift-c [12:30] ohhhhhh ok [12:30] Generation: also, you Linux lets you just highlight something to copy it and then use middle click to paste it somewhere else, really convenient [12:31] ok [12:31] Generation: ok, so what did you do last time to try to get to "games"? [12:31] well it is a file folder [12:31] called Thief deadly shadows [12:32] Generation: is it on your Desktop? [12:32] no [12:32] Generation: ok, what do you want to do with it? Is this a windows game? [12:32] Yea IT is [12:33] I just wanted to open it up and see what is in side [12:33] ok [12:33] so where is it located? [12:33] ok if I type in "ls" it shows up [12:33] ok, so now you should be able to type this: cd Thief [12:34] and then press the TAB button twice and it should complete the rest [12:34] ok here is an example [12:34] I have a books called oriellys [12:34] and if I do cd I cant get into them [12:34] nope didnt work [12:34] what does it say when you try? [12:34] nothing [12:35] command not reconized [12:35] Generation: paste the command you used [12:35] ok [12:36] ok wait I got it [12:36] got into file [12:36] cool [12:36] k [12:36] ok [12:36] my next question is this [12:37] How do I go into a program, like a game, and change something [12:37] I have this game on linux [12:37] racing game and I want to change the time limit of the race so I can beat it [12:37] lol [12:37] haha [12:38] How do I get into the txt file [12:38] and how do I change it [12:38] Generation: depends how the time limit is set. If it is some kind of setting, you can edit the configuration files for the game. These are probably somewhere in /etc or if it's something your user can configure they might be in ~/.name_of_game where "~" means "/home/professor" [12:39] if it's hard coded, then you would have to edit the source code... [12:39] Generation: what game by the way? [12:39] ok that is another thing, sorry I am throwing quesitons at you [12:39] Trigger [12:39] I beat it once [12:40] and I want to see what I can do with everything else [12:41] I tried the "find" still nothing [12:41] Oh I like this game, let me see... [12:42] and where is a good place to get linux games, most of them are sinple [12:42] Generation: I'm guessing somewhere in /usr/share/trigger-data [12:43] Generation: yeah, for example /usr/share/trigger-data/maps/desertstorm/storm.level is an xml file with what seems to be some time info [12:43] "targettime" [12:44] hmm trigger just locked up X for me on feisty, and since there is some strange bug in feisty I was trying not to reboot... I may not return :) Any last minute questions? [12:45] yea [12:45] I got in [12:45] and there is no xml file [12:45] to [12:45] edit and when I find it how do I edit it [12:46] storm.level is the file [12:46] I would make a backup copy first and then edit like this: gksudo gedit /usr/share/trigger-data/maps/desertstorm/storm.level [12:46] ok [12:46] thanks man [12:46] it has been fun [12:48] ok got a quick question, my graphics are going real slow [12:48] like bit by bit [12:48] how do I fix that [12:49] what kind of video card do you have? [12:49] ati [12:49] it worked fine before [12:49] !ati | Generation [12:49] Generation: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [12:49] I must of did something [12:50] I got wine working last night [12:50] was so excited [12:50] How do I reload drivers for ati card [12:50] Generation: you'll have to follow the guide on the wiki, I've never had the pleasure of setting up an ati card on linux [12:51] slol [12:51] ok thanks [12:51] have a good onne [12:51] Generation: or try asking in #ubuntu, if the wiki doesn't help [12:51] you too [12:51] thanks === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Crusher [n=You@ppp183-8.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Lbawinowns [n=chatzill@c-3e1672d5.08-80-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:57] Hi! [01:58] So jrib, what field in what application? [01:58] Lbawinowns: ok, lets take a step back [01:59] Ok [01:59] Lbawinowns: you have formatted the partition as ext3 using gparted? [01:59] I think so, I unmounted it with gparted and then i took format to ext3 [02:02] Lbawinowns: ok, now open up fstab with: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab [02:02] paste the line for /dev/hda2 here [02:02] I think i get some error [02:02] it says: [02:03] (gedit:15392): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: [02:03] Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. [02:04] Lbawinowns: you'll always see that sort of stuff when using the terminal [02:05] Ok, should I use other? [02:05] Lbawinowns: gedit doesn't open? [02:05] No [02:06] wait, i think it's alredy open [02:06] #Added by diskmounter utility [02:06] /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0 [02:06] sorry, it was alerdy open [02:07] Lbawinowns: ok, change it to: /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 ext3 defaults 0 2 [02:07] all those lines? [02:07] Lbawinowns: just the one for /dev/hda2 [02:08] should i save it? [02:08] yep [02:08] OK done [02:08] sudo mount -a [02:09] should i write in terminal? [02:09] right [02:09] hmm... nothing happens, is that right? [02:09] yep, now see if you can write in /media/hda2 [02:10] Nope I can't, but it is a folder called lost+found there witha red cross in top right of it [02:11] oh right we need to setup permissions. Are you familiar with permissions? [02:11] hmm... not when it comes to linu [02:11] !permissions | Lbawinowns [02:11] Lbawinowns: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux [02:11] take a coupl of minutes to read through that second link, ask here if you aren't sure what to do afterwards [02:12] Thanks :) [02:18] hmm... should i give /media/hda2 permission rwx? [02:19] Lbawinowns: well it depends how you want to set it up [02:19] Lbawinowns: you can give just your user the ability to write or you can give everyone that ability or you can setup a group so that only users in that group can do it [02:19] what does the user@host mean? [02:20] Lbawinowns: that's just what you see at your command line, you see your_username@your_hostname [02:20] hmm, 755 seems reasonable :), i can do it all while other users can run and read, right? [02:23] so if i write in terminal "/media/hda2 chmod 755" Will it result in that I can write to that partition? [02:25] lol i tried, and it just says that /media/hda2 is a catlouge XD [02:31] erm, jrib, I hope I'm not impatient. But can you assist me? [02:32] Lbawinowns: now that I have you hooked, each additional help will be $5 :) j/k, what's up? [02:33] Well, /media/hda2 chmod 755 doesnt do anything, it probably has a good reason for it tough :p [02:33] Lbawinowns: sudo chmod 755 /media/hda2 [02:34] but then you will want to be the owner of /media/hda2, so you should also do: sudo chown -R $USER: /media/hda2 [02:35] Haha you're such a nice person jrib :D, and smart! [02:36] I don't know what keeps up your aiding spirit. But I guess some people just are noble :) === _jason [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PWill [n=paul@cpe-24-208-190-43.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === pradeep [n=pradeep@unaffiliated/pradeep] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PWill [n=paul@cpe-24-208-190-43.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Crusher [n=You@ppp173-142.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121ofb.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PWill [n=paul@cpe-24-208-190-43.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jojoman02 [n=khan@190.80.187.172] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === pradeep [n=pradeep@unaffiliated/pradeep] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121ofb.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jojoman02 [n=khan@190.80.187.172] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] === freacky22527 [n=arthur@gov91-1-82-234-91-6.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === freacky22527 [n=arthur@gov91-1-82-234-91-6.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Quitte"] === sorcerer [n=sorcerer@cblmdm72-241-20-152.buckeyecom.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [10:09] wat happens in this room === sorcerer [n=sorcerer@cblmdm72-241-20-152.buckeyecom.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] === croppa [n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === croppa [n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === NewbieBaba [n=NewbieBa@88.238.64.193] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === NewbieBaba [n=NewbieBa@88.238.51.82] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:17] jrib baba r u there ? [02:18] NewbieBaba: I am, but it is best if you just ask in #ubuntu, plenty of people can help there [02:18] well === pradeep [n=pradeep@unaffiliated/pradeep] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === NewbieBaba [n=NewbieBa@88.238.80.65] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:43] hi jrib :D [02:43] hi again [02:43] u should remember me from last days i had problem with Live cd n downloaded the alternate cd as u said [02:44] i tried to install it n then yea i did i guess [02:44] n desktop didnt show up [02:44] it says Ubuntu 6.10 ubuntu -- ubuntu login : [02:44] after i log [02:44] right, you went straight to a login prompt [02:44] no errors right? [02:44] username@ubuntu:~$ [02:44] yea [02:44] n then i did [02:44] apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep -i installe [02:44] apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep -i installed [02:45] nothing show up [02:45] i think nothing will show up with that command anyway [02:45] ok, you are going to get a quick irssi primer so we can talk while you are on ubuntu, ok? [02:45] or do you know how to use irssi? [02:45] no :/ [02:45] i dunno what is irssi either [02:46] ok, first when you press ctrl-alt-f2 you will get a new login prompt [02:46] tty2 [02:46] or something [02:46] yea? [02:46] right, and ctrl-alt-f1 brings you back to tty1 [02:46] yea [02:46] ok, so when you get on ubuntu, install irssi with this command: sudo apt-get install irssi [02:46] hopefully that will work... [02:46] baba i cant get on ubuntu [02:47] you can do this at the command line you are in [02:47] o [02:47] the user@ubuntu$ thing [02:47] ok, then this is how you use irssi: [02:47] so i'll use that command on my command line "sudo apt-get install irssi" [02:47] yes [02:48] no NET connection needed right? [02:48] yes, you need internet [02:48] its like something coming with my install files [02:48] :/ [02:48] NewbieBaba: does ubuntu have no net access? [02:48] baba i cant use Desktop of ubuntu [02:48] it makes me go that command line [02:48] when i reboot my computer [02:49] i can never get on Desktop [02:49] i can only get on that command line [02:49] its like [02:49] NewbieBaba: that's ok, you probably still have access to the internet on the command line, assuming ubuntu set it up correctly [02:49] Starting Up... [02:49] o [02:49] ok i'll try [02:49] if not, you'll find out when you issue the install command. Make sure you copy any errors you get [02:49] should i use "apt-cache policy.." again ? [02:50] nah [02:50] ok only sudo apt-get install irssi [02:50] then [02:50] I'll tell you how to start irssi in a second, let me create a new user === tester [n=tester@c-71-232-46-215.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:50] ok === tester [n=tester@c-71-232-46-215.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [02:51] so to start irssi, you can issue this command: irssi -c irc.ubuntu.com [02:51] is it like a chat program that i can use ? [02:51] NewbieBaba: then once irssi starts and is connected, you can join this channel with: /join #ubuntu-classroom [02:52] ok [02:52] goin to try that [02:52] bbl baba === jrib needs to find who decided to remove irssi from a default install... === NewbieBaba [n=NewbieBa@88.238.80.65] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [03:00] no im still on XP :( [03:00] jrib : i think that command line doesnt support NET connection thing [03:00] NewbieBaba: what error did you get [03:00] E : couldnt find package [03:01] sudo apt-get install irssi [03:01] thats the command right ? [03:01] yes [03:02] NewbieBaba: do you remember which option you chose when you loaded the install disk? [03:02] i tried all options [03:02] all way makes me go that command line [03:02] no desktop [03:02] i'll try to explain like its like Windows [03:03] i install Windows n a desktop shows up right ? [03:03] that desktop doesnt show up [03:03] i see only CMD [03:03] I understand [03:03] like i should start "setup" [03:04] NewbieBaba: ok, on your next reboot we are going to try two things [03:04] ok <3 [03:04] first, we'll see if you have internet access, enter this command: ping www.google.com [03:04] ok [03:05] If it keeps throwing out output, then you are connected to the internet. To stop it, you press ctrl-c [03:05] k [03:05] now im goin ? [03:05] not yet [03:05] roger :D [03:06] if i have net connection i am able to get irssi yea? [03:06] NewbieBaba: yes [03:06] if not ? [03:06] you are in for many reboots :) [03:07] :D [03:07] ok, then you can try this: sudo sed -i 's/^# deb/deb/' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [03:07] lalalal [03:07] on the same command line ? [03:07] yes [03:08] ok [03:08] ok, see you in a bit [03:08] cya === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [03:29] I wonder if he is stuck pinging google === NewbieBaba [n=NewbieBa@88.238.88.202] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [03:41] jrib : i love u man something finally happpen :D [03:41] but.. [03:41] yea i dont have net connection on command line [03:41] after i see that i type that command that u just gave me [03:42] it wanted to make me put a CD [03:42] i put Alternate CD [03:42] n it installed too many things [03:42] after %100 it said [03:43] Failed to fetch cdroom : ...... /pool/main/s/shared.mime.info/shared-mime-info-0.18_0ubuntu1_i386.deb MD5Sum [03:43] E : Unable to fetch some archives,maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? [03:44] NewbieBaba: ok, so I guess it didn't continue to install ubuntu-desktop? [03:44] it wanted to me put cd rom :/ [03:44] NewbieBaba: did you put it in? [03:44] yea that Alternate CD [03:45] ok, so on reboot it still takes you to command line? [03:45] yea [03:45] NewbieBaba: were you able to ping google? [03:45] unknown host [03:45] no connection :) [03:45] ok, we'll just use the cd then [03:46] i did ? [03:46] i put Alternate CD [03:46] n it installed too many things [03:46] but we'll fix it so it doesn't try to connect to the net [03:46] here is what you do: [03:47] sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup && sudo touch /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update [03:47] then put the alternate cd in your drive [03:47] then do this command: sudo apt-cdrom add && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [03:49] n then i'll throw the computer from window [03:49] :D [03:49] heh :) [03:49] it will stop me bothering u sorry man :/ [03:49] it's ok, I'm reading stuff at the same time [03:50] ok so im goin to do those things now yea? [03:50] yep, this should work [03:50] ok bbl :D [03:50] <3 === RoyB72 [n=royb@37.80-203-239.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === NewbieBaba [n=NewbieBa@88.238.55.235] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:15] here i am jrib i know u were waiting for me ^^ [04:16] why those developers of Ubuntu make an Easy install thing.. ahh [04:16] w/e i did everything that u told me [04:16] theres still no desktop [04:16] NewbieBaba: did you get any errors? [04:16] hmm [04:17] Failed to fetch cdrom : [04:17] ..../pool/main/s/shared-mime-info/shared-mime-info_0.18_Oubuntu1_i386.deb [04:17] MD5Sum [04:17] E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fixmissing? [04:18] NewbieBaba: did you verify the cd? It should be an option when you boot from the cd [04:18] yea its the exact cd [04:18] o wait [04:18] should i reboot comp with the CD? [04:18] Alternate CD i mean [04:18] yes, and then look for the option that lets you verify the cd [04:19] ok probably i'll see a window of setup options [04:19] which one should i chose ? [04:19] or i wont? [04:19] NewbieBaba: when you boot from the cd, you get a list of options [04:19] yea [04:20] I think there is an option that says something similar to "verify the cd" [04:20] hmm [04:20] n then? [04:20] see if it is verified [04:20] ok [04:20] cya in a bit === NewbieBaba [n=NewbieBa@88.238.55.235] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:23] the List "Install in text mode [04:24] Install in oem mode [04:24] Install a command-line system [04:24] Check cd for defects.. [04:24] nothing about verifying CD [04:24] :/ [04:24] jrib [04:24] NewbieBaba: "check cd for defects" sorry [04:24] :D [04:24] ok [04:24] yea i was thinkin about to choose that one [04:24] well w/e [04:24] brb:D === NewbieBaba [n=NewbieBa@88.238.55.235] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:34] k jrib [04:34] NewbieBaba: what did it say? [04:35] the error im gettin "./pool/main/l...... file failed the MD5 Checksum...." [04:35] want to me burn one more Alternate CD? [04:35] NewbieBaba: then you need to burn a new cd, yeah. Burn it slow at like 2x [04:35] ok [04:36] 4x also cool yea? [04:36] NewbieBaba: ok [04:36] well burning [04:37] why those developers wont make the installation easy as Windows of Ubuntu? [04:37] just curious [04:37] lol [04:37] NewbieBaba: it usually is, you are probably just having problems because of the bad burn [04:37] hmm [04:37] you should be able to just install and then go straight to the Desktop [04:37] why do i need Alternate CD what is it for ? [04:38] NewbieBaba: well the normal installer sometimes has problems on some hardware, so the alternate install is there as a backup [04:38] kk [04:39] if i solve those problems n able to get on Ubuntu i'll name my son as ur name :D [04:39] i have nothin to pay to u to taking ur time with my problems hehe [04:39] NewbieBaba: heh, name him "ubuntu" :) [04:42] Ubuntu means 'I am what I am because of who we all are' [04:43] is that ? [04:43] lol [04:43] yeah [04:45] as South Africa ppl things : compassionate,merciful,benevolent [04:45] nice name isnt it :D === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:57] kk goin to install that CD jrib [04:57] which option i'll choose [04:57] in text mode [04:57] oem mode [04:57] command-line [04:57] NewbieBaba: k, use "in text mode" [04:58] ok ty [04:58] hope cya with irssi :) === boredandblogging [n=asdfasdf@c-24-98-177-125.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === NewbieBaba [n=NewbieBa@88.238.79.236] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [05:30] jrib that doesnt work :( [05:31] NewbieBaba: what happens [05:31] umm [05:31] i burnt new cd [05:31] booted with that cd [05:31] installed in text mode [05:31] it wanted to me reboot computer [05:31] so i did [05:31] n then i came to CMD line again [05:31] no errors? [05:31] hmm [05:32] yea while setup i got an error like some archives cant install [05:32] did you verify the new cd? [05:32] nope [05:32] ok i'll [05:32] if its bad record [05:32] what will i do? [05:33]