[12:25] <Generation> ok here
[12:26] <jrib> Generation: hello
[12:26] <Generation> jrib, hey
[12:26] <Generation> Im such a noob
[12:26] <Generation> in all things
[12:26] <jrib> Generation: ok, what are you trying to do exactly?  Are you just curious about what is in there?
[12:26] <Generation> I want to really learn the command line
[12:26] <jrib> it's ok, it's just new to you.  Everyone started that way
[12:26] <Generation> So I am trying to get into files to explore
[12:26] <jrib> !cli | Generation
[12:26] <ubotu> Generation: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:27] <jrib> Generation: the link at the bottom of that page, to linuxcommand.org is excellent
[12:27] <jrib> Generation: but lets figure out what's going wrong with what you are doing now
[12:27] <Generation> ok
[12:28] <jrib> Generation: ok, so I can know where you are at, what does this command return:  pwd
[12:28] <Generation> its says home and professor
[12:28] <bodhi_zazen> LOL
[12:28] <jrib> Generation: it's best if you just copy and paste exactly what it says
[12:28] <kbrooks> Generation, He wants you to copy and paste what it says.
[12:28] <bodhi_zazen> do you mind if I insert a link ?
[12:29] <kbrooks> bodhi_zazen, go on... but it better be good.
[12:29] <Generation> man I am so lost lol
[12:29] <bodhi_zazen> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/CommandLineBeginners
[12:29] <Generation> it wont let me copy it
[12:30] <jrib> Generation: right click > copy
[12:30] <Generation> ctrl c wont work in command line
[12:30] <Generation> ok
[12:30] <Generation> /home/professor
[12:30] <jrib> Generation: if you want to use the keyboard, you can use ctrl-shift-c
[12:30] <Generation> ohhhhhh ok
[12:30] <jrib> Generation: also, you Linux lets you just highlight something to copy it and then use middle click to paste it somewhere else, really convenient
[12:31] <Generation> ok
[12:31] <jrib> Generation: ok, so what did you do last time to try to get to "games"?
[12:31] <Generation> well it is a file folder
[12:31] <Generation> called Thief deadly shadows
[12:32] <jrib> Generation: is it on your Desktop?
[12:32] <Generation> no
[12:32] <jrib> Generation: ok, what do you want to do with it?  Is this a windows game?
[12:32] <Generation> Yea IT is
[12:33] <Generation> I just wanted to open it up and see what is in side
[12:33] <jrib> ok
[12:33] <jrib> so where is it located?
[12:33] <Generation> ok if I type in "ls" it shows up
[12:33] <jrib> ok, so now you should be able to type this:  cd Thief
[12:34] <jrib> and then press the TAB button twice and it should complete the rest
[12:34] <Generation> ok here is an example
[12:34] <Generation> I have a books called oriellys
[12:34] <Generation> and if I do cd I cant get into them
[12:34] <Generation> nope didnt work
[12:34] <jrib> what does it say when you try?
[12:34] <Generation> nothing
[12:35] <Generation> command not reconized
[12:35] <jrib> Generation: paste the command you used
[12:35] <Generation> ok
[12:36] <Generation> ok wait I got it
[12:36] <Generation> got into file
[12:36] <Generation> cool
[12:36] <jrib> k
[12:36] <Generation> ok
[12:36] <Generation> my next question is this
[12:37] <Generation> How do I go into a program, like a game, and change something
[12:37] <Generation> I have this game on linux
[12:37] <Generation> racing game and I want to change the time limit of the race so I can beat it
[12:37] <Generation> lol
[12:37] <jrib> haha
[12:38] <Generation> How  do I get into the txt file
[12:38] <Generation> and how do I change it
[12:38] <jrib> Generation: depends how the time limit is set.  If it is some kind of setting, you can edit the configuration files for the game.  These are probably somewhere in /etc or if it's something your user can configure they might be in ~/.name_of_game where "~" means "/home/professor"
[12:39] <jrib> if it's hard coded, then you would have to edit the source code...
[12:39] <jrib> Generation: what game by the way?
[12:39] <Generation> ok that is another thing, sorry I am throwing quesitons at you
[12:39] <Generation> Trigger
[12:39] <Generation> I beat it once
[12:40] <Generation> and I want to see what I can do with everything else
[12:41] <Generation> I tried the "find" still nothing
[12:41] <jrib> Oh I like this game, let me see...
[12:42] <Generation> and where is a good place to get linux games, most of them are sinple
[12:42] <jrib> Generation: I'm guessing somewhere in /usr/share/trigger-data
[12:43] <jrib> Generation: yeah, for example /usr/share/trigger-data/maps/desertstorm/storm.level is an xml file with what seems to be some time info
[12:43] <jrib> "targettime"
[12:44] <jrib> hmm trigger just locked up X for me on feisty, and since there is some strange bug in feisty I was trying not to reboot... I may not return :)  Any last minute questions?
[12:45] <Generation> yea
[12:45] <Generation> I got in
[12:45] <Generation> and there is no xml file
[12:45] <Generation> to
[12:45] <Generation> edit and when I find it how do I edit it
[12:46] <jrib> storm.level is the file
[12:46] <jrib> I would make a backup copy first and then edit like this: gksudo gedit /usr/share/trigger-data/maps/desertstorm/storm.level
[12:46] <Generation> ok
[12:46] <Generation> thanks man
[12:46] <Generation> it has been fun
[12:48] <Generation> ok got a quick question, my graphics are going real slow
[12:48] <Generation> like bit by bit
[12:48] <Generation> how do I fix that
[12:49] <jrib> what kind of video card do you have?
[12:49] <Generation> ati
[12:49] <Generation> it worked fine before
[12:49] <jrib> !ati | Generation
[12:49] <ubotu> Generation: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:49] <Generation> I must of did something
[12:50] <Generation> I got wine working last night
[12:50] <Generation> was so excited
[12:50] <Generation> How do I reload drivers for ati card
[12:50] <jrib> Generation: you'll have to follow the guide on the wiki, I've never had the pleasure of setting up an ati card on linux
[12:51] <Generation> slol
[12:51] <Generation> ok thanks
[12:51] <Generation> have a good onne
[12:51] <jrib> Generation: or try asking in #ubuntu, if the wiki doesn't help
[12:51] <jrib> you too
[12:51] <Generation> thanks
[01:57] <Lbawinowns> Hi!
[01:58] <Lbawinowns> So jrib, what field in what application?
[01:58] <jrib> Lbawinowns: ok, lets take a step back
[01:59] <Lbawinowns> Ok
[01:59] <jrib> Lbawinowns: you have formatted the partition as ext3 using gparted?
[01:59] <Lbawinowns> I think so, I unmounted it with gparted and then i took format to ext3
[02:02] <jrib> Lbawinowns: ok, now open up fstab with:  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:02] <jrib> paste the line for /dev/hda2 here
[02:02] <Lbawinowns> I think i get some error
[02:02] <Lbawinowns> it says:
[02:03] <Lbawinowns> (gedit:15392): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[02:03] <Lbawinowns> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[02:04] <nalioth> Lbawinowns: you'll always see that sort of stuff when using the terminal
[02:05] <Lbawinowns> Ok, should I use other?
[02:05] <jrib> Lbawinowns: gedit doesn't open?
[02:05] <Lbawinowns> No
[02:06] <Lbawinowns> wait, i think it's alredy open
[02:06] <Lbawinowns> #Added by diskmounter utility
[02:06] <Lbawinowns> /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[02:06] <Lbawinowns> sorry, it was alerdy open
[02:07] <jrib> Lbawinowns: ok, change it to: /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 ext3 defaults 0 2
[02:07] <Lbawinowns> all those lines?
[02:07] <jrib> Lbawinowns: just the one for /dev/hda2
[02:08] <Lbawinowns> should i save it?
[02:08] <jrib> yep
[02:08] <Lbawinowns> OK done
[02:08] <jrib> sudo mount -a
[02:09] <Lbawinowns> should i write in terminal?
[02:09] <jrib> right
[02:09] <Lbawinowns> hmm... nothing happens, is that right?
[02:09] <jrib> yep, now see if you can write in /media/hda2
[02:10] <Lbawinowns> Nope I can't, but it is a folder called lost+found there witha red cross in top right of it
[02:11] <jrib> oh right we need to setup permissions.  Are you familiar with permissions?
[02:11] <Lbawinowns> hmm... not when it comes to linu
[02:11] <jrib> !permissions | Lbawinowns
[02:11] <ubotu> Lbawinowns: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[02:11] <jrib> take a coupl of minutes to read through that second link, ask here if you aren't sure what to do afterwards
[02:12] <Lbawinowns> Thanks :)
[02:18] <Lbawinowns> hmm... should i give /media/hda2 permission rwx?
[02:19] <jrib> Lbawinowns: well it depends how you want to set it up
[02:19] <jrib> Lbawinowns: you can give just your user the ability to write or you can give everyone that ability or you can setup a group so that only users in that group can do it
[02:19] <Lbawinowns> what does the user@host mean?
[02:20] <jrib> Lbawinowns: that's just what you see at your command line, you see your_username@your_hostname
[02:20] <Lbawinowns> hmm, 755 seems reasonable :), i can do it all while  other users can run and read, right?
[02:23] <Lbawinowns> so if i write in terminal "/media/hda2 chmod 755" Will it result in that I can write to that partition?
[02:25] <Lbawinowns> lol i tried, and it just says that /media/hda2 is a catlouge XD
[02:31] <Lbawinowns> erm, jrib, I hope I'm not impatient. But can you assist me?
[02:32] <jrib> Lbawinowns: now that I have you hooked, each additional help will be $5 :)  j/k, what's up?
[02:33] <Lbawinowns> Well, /media/hda2 chmod 755 doesnt do anything, it probably has a good reason for it tough :p
[02:33] <jrib> Lbawinowns: sudo chmod 755 /media/hda2
[02:34] <jrib> but then you will want to be the owner of /media/hda2, so you should also do:  sudo chown -R $USER: /media/hda2
[02:35] <Lbawinowns> Haha you're such a nice person jrib :D, and smart!
[02:36] <Lbawinowns> I don't know what keeps up your aiding spirit. But I guess some people just are noble :)
[10:09] <sorcerer> wat happens in this room
[02:17] <NewbieBaba> jrib baba r u there ?
[02:18] <jrib> NewbieBaba: I am, but it is best if you just ask in #ubuntu, plenty of people can help there
[02:18] <NewbieBaba> well
[02:43] <NewbieBaba> hi jrib :D
[02:43] <jrib> hi again
[02:43] <NewbieBaba> u should remember me from last days i had problem with Live cd n downloaded the alternate cd as u said
[02:44] <NewbieBaba> i tried to install it n then yea i did i guess
[02:44] <NewbieBaba> n desktop didnt show up
[02:44] <NewbieBaba> it says Ubuntu 6.10 ubuntu -- ubuntu login :
[02:44] <NewbieBaba> after i log
[02:44] <jrib> right, you went straight to a login prompt
[02:44] <jrib> no errors right?
[02:44] <NewbieBaba> username@ubuntu:~$
[02:44] <NewbieBaba> yea
[02:44] <NewbieBaba> n then i did
[02:44] <NewbieBaba> apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep -i installe
[02:44] <NewbieBaba> apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep -i installed
[02:45] <NewbieBaba> nothing show up
[02:45] <NewbieBaba> i think nothing will show up with that command anyway
[02:45] <jrib> ok, you are going to get a quick irssi primer so we can talk while you are on ubuntu, ok?
[02:45] <jrib> or do you know how to use irssi?
[02:45] <NewbieBaba> no :/
[02:45] <NewbieBaba> i dunno what is irssi either
[02:46] <jrib> ok, first when you press ctrl-alt-f2  you will get a new login prompt
[02:46] <NewbieBaba> tty2
[02:46] <NewbieBaba> or something
[02:46] <NewbieBaba> yea?
[02:46] <jrib> right, and ctrl-alt-f1 brings you back to tty1
[02:46] <NewbieBaba> yea
[02:46] <jrib> ok, so when you get on ubuntu, install irssi with this command:  sudo apt-get install irssi
[02:46] <jrib> hopefully that will work...
[02:46] <NewbieBaba> baba i cant get on ubuntu
[02:47] <jrib> you can do this at the command line you are in
[02:47] <NewbieBaba> o
[02:47] <jrib> the user@ubuntu$ thing
[02:47] <jrib> ok, then this is how you use irssi:
[02:47] <NewbieBaba> so i'll use that command on my command line "sudo apt-get install irssi"
[02:47] <jrib> yes
[02:48] <NewbieBaba> no NET connection needed right?
[02:48] <jrib> yes, you need internet
[02:48] <NewbieBaba> its like something coming with my install files
[02:48] <NewbieBaba> :/
[02:48] <jrib> NewbieBaba: does ubuntu have no net access?
[02:48] <NewbieBaba> baba i cant use Desktop of ubuntu
[02:48] <NewbieBaba> it makes me go that command line
[02:48] <NewbieBaba> when i reboot my computer
[02:49] <NewbieBaba> i can never get on Desktop
[02:49] <NewbieBaba> i can only get on that command line
[02:49] <NewbieBaba> its like
[02:49] <jrib> NewbieBaba: that's ok, you probably still have access to the internet on the command line, assuming ubuntu set it up correctly
[02:49] <NewbieBaba> Starting Up...
[02:49] <NewbieBaba> o
[02:49] <NewbieBaba> ok i'll try
[02:49] <jrib> if not, you'll find out when you issue the install command.  Make sure you copy any errors you get
[02:49] <NewbieBaba> should i use "apt-cache policy.." again ?
[02:50] <jrib> nah
[02:50] <NewbieBaba> ok only sudo apt-get install irssi
[02:50] <NewbieBaba> then
[02:50] <jrib> I'll tell you how to start irssi in a second, let me create a new user
[02:50] <tester> ok
[02:51] <jrib> so to start irssi, you can issue this command:  irssi -c irc.ubuntu.com
[02:51] <NewbieBaba> is it like a chat program that i can use ?
[02:51] <jrib> NewbieBaba: then once irssi starts and is connected, you can join this channel with:  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[02:52] <NewbieBaba> ok
[02:52] <NewbieBaba> goin to try that
[02:52] <NewbieBaba> bbl baba
[03:00] <NewbieBaba> no im still on XP :(
[03:00] <NewbieBaba> jrib : i think that command line doesnt support NET connection thing
[03:00] <jrib> NewbieBaba: what error did you get
[03:00] <NewbieBaba> E : couldnt find package
[03:01] <NewbieBaba> sudo apt-get install irssi
[03:01] <NewbieBaba> thats the command right ?
[03:01] <jrib> yes
[03:02] <jrib> NewbieBaba: do you remember which option you chose when you loaded the install disk?
[03:02] <NewbieBaba> i tried all options
[03:02] <NewbieBaba> all way makes me go that command line
[03:02] <NewbieBaba> no desktop
[03:02] <NewbieBaba> i'll try to explain like its like Windows
[03:03] <NewbieBaba> i install Windows n a desktop shows up right ?
[03:03] <NewbieBaba> that desktop doesnt show up
[03:03] <NewbieBaba> i see only CMD
[03:03] <jrib> I understand
[03:03] <NewbieBaba> like i should start "setup"
[03:04] <jrib> NewbieBaba: ok, on your next reboot we are going to try two things
[03:04] <NewbieBaba> ok <3
[03:04] <jrib> first, we'll see if you have internet access, enter this command:  ping www.google.com
[03:04] <NewbieBaba> ok
[03:05] <jrib> If it keeps throwing out output, then you are connected to the internet.  To stop it, you press ctrl-c
[03:05] <NewbieBaba> k
[03:05] <NewbieBaba> now im goin ?
[03:05] <jrib> not yet
[03:05] <NewbieBaba> roger :D
[03:06] <NewbieBaba> if i have net connection i am able to get irssi yea?
[03:06] <jrib> NewbieBaba: yes
[03:06] <NewbieBaba> if not ?
[03:06] <jrib> you are in for many reboots :)
[03:07] <NewbieBaba> :D
[03:07] <jrib> ok, then you can try this: sudo sed -i 's/^# deb/deb/' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:07] <NewbieBaba> lalalal
[03:07] <NewbieBaba> on the same command line ?
[03:07] <jrib> yes
[03:08] <NewbieBaba> ok
[03:08] <jrib> ok, see you in a bit
[03:08] <NewbieBaba> cya
[03:29] <jrib> I wonder if he is stuck pinging google
[03:41] <NewbieBaba> jrib : i love u man something finally happpen :D
[03:41] <NewbieBaba> but..
[03:41] <NewbieBaba> yea i dont have net connection on command line
[03:41] <NewbieBaba> after i see that i type that command that u just gave me
[03:42] <NewbieBaba> it wanted to make me put a CD
[03:42] <NewbieBaba> i put Alternate CD
[03:42] <NewbieBaba> n it installed too many things
[03:42] <NewbieBaba> after %100 it said
[03:43] <NewbieBaba> Failed to fetch cdroom : ...... /pool/main/s/shared.mime.info/shared-mime-info-0.18_0ubuntu1_i386.deb MD5Sum
[03:43] <NewbieBaba> E : Unable to fetch some archives,maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[03:44] <jrib> NewbieBaba: ok, so I guess it didn't continue to install ubuntu-desktop?
[03:44] <NewbieBaba> it wanted to me put cd rom :/
[03:44] <jrib> NewbieBaba: did you put it in?
[03:44] <NewbieBaba> yea that Alternate CD
[03:45] <jrib> ok, so on reboot it still takes you to command line?
[03:45] <NewbieBaba> yea
[03:45] <jrib> NewbieBaba: were you able to ping google?
[03:45] <NewbieBaba> unknown host
[03:45] <NewbieBaba> no connection :)
[03:45] <jrib> ok, we'll just use the cd then
[03:46] <NewbieBaba> i did ?
 i put Alternate CD
 n it installed too many things
[03:46] <jrib> but we'll fix it so it doesn't try to connect to the net
[03:46] <jrib> here is what you do:
[03:47] <jrib> sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup && sudo touch /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[03:47] <jrib> then put the alternate cd in your drive
[03:47] <jrib> then do this command:  sudo apt-cdrom add && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:49] <NewbieBaba> n then i'll throw the computer from window
[03:49] <NewbieBaba> :D
[03:49] <jrib> heh :)
[03:49] <NewbieBaba> it will stop me bothering u sorry man :/
[03:49] <jrib> it's ok, I'm reading stuff at the same time
[03:50] <NewbieBaba> ok so im goin to do those things now yea?
[03:50] <jrib> yep, this should work
[03:50] <NewbieBaba> ok bbl :D
[03:50] <NewbieBaba> <3
[04:15] <NewbieBaba> here i am jrib i know u were waiting for me ^^
[04:16] <NewbieBaba> why those developers of Ubuntu make an Easy install thing.. ahh
[04:16] <NewbieBaba> w/e i did everything that u told me
[04:16] <NewbieBaba> theres still no desktop
[04:16] <jrib> NewbieBaba: did you get any errors?
[04:16] <NewbieBaba> hmm
[04:17] <NewbieBaba> Failed to fetch cdrom :
[04:17] <NewbieBaba> ..../pool/main/s/shared-mime-info/shared-mime-info_0.18_Oubuntu1_i386.deb
[04:17] <NewbieBaba> MD5Sum
[04:17] <NewbieBaba> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fixmissing?
[04:18] <jrib> NewbieBaba: did you verify the cd?  It should be an option when you boot from the cd
[04:18] <NewbieBaba> yea its the exact cd
[04:18] <NewbieBaba> o wait
[04:18] <NewbieBaba> should i reboot comp with the CD?
[04:18] <NewbieBaba> Alternate CD i mean
[04:18] <jrib> yes, and then look for the option that lets you verify the cd
[04:19] <NewbieBaba> ok probably i'll see a window of setup options
[04:19] <NewbieBaba> which one should i chose ?
[04:19] <NewbieBaba> or i wont?
[04:19] <jrib> NewbieBaba: when you boot from the cd, you get a list of options
[04:19] <NewbieBaba> yea
[04:20] <jrib> I think there is an option that says something similar to "verify the cd"
[04:20] <NewbieBaba> hmm
[04:20] <NewbieBaba> n then?
[04:20] <jrib> see if it is verified
[04:20] <NewbieBaba> ok
[04:20] <NewbieBaba> cya in a bit
[04:23] <NewbieBaba> the List "Install in text mode
[04:24] <NewbieBaba> Install in oem mode
[04:24] <NewbieBaba> Install a command-line system
[04:24] <NewbieBaba> Check cd for defects..
[04:24] <NewbieBaba> nothing about verifying CD
[04:24] <NewbieBaba> :/
[04:24] <NewbieBaba> jrib
[04:24] <jrib> NewbieBaba: "check cd for defects" sorry
[04:24] <NewbieBaba> :D
[04:24] <NewbieBaba> ok
[04:24] <NewbieBaba> yea i was thinkin about to choose that one
[04:24] <NewbieBaba> well w/e
[04:24] <NewbieBaba> brb:D
[04:34] <NewbieBaba> k jrib
[04:34] <jrib> NewbieBaba: what did it say?
[04:35] <NewbieBaba> the error im gettin "./pool/main/l......  file failed the MD5 Checksum...."
[04:35] <NewbieBaba> want to me burn one more Alternate CD?
[04:35] <jrib> NewbieBaba: then you need to burn a new cd, yeah.  Burn it slow at like 2x
[04:35] <NewbieBaba> ok
[04:36] <NewbieBaba> 4x also cool yea?
[04:36] <jrib> NewbieBaba: ok
[04:36] <NewbieBaba> well burning
[04:37] <NewbieBaba> why those developers wont make the installation easy as Windows of Ubuntu?
[04:37] <NewbieBaba> just curious
[04:37] <NewbieBaba> lol
[04:37] <jrib> NewbieBaba: it usually is, you are probably just having problems because of the bad burn
[04:37] <NewbieBaba> hmm
[04:37] <jrib> you should be able to just install and then go straight to the Desktop
[04:37] <NewbieBaba> why do i need Alternate CD what is it for ?
[04:38] <jrib> NewbieBaba: well the normal installer sometimes has problems on some hardware, so the alternate install is there as a backup
[04:38] <NewbieBaba> kk
[04:39] <NewbieBaba> if i solve those problems n able to get on Ubuntu i'll name my son as ur name :D
[04:39] <NewbieBaba> i have nothin to pay to u to taking ur time with my problems hehe
[04:39] <jrib> NewbieBaba: heh, name him "ubuntu" :)
[04:42] <NewbieBaba> Ubuntu means 'I am what I am because of who we all are'
[04:43] <NewbieBaba> is that ?
[04:43] <NewbieBaba> lol
[04:43] <jrib> yeah
[04:45] <NewbieBaba> as South Africa ppl things : compassionate,merciful,benevolent
[04:45] <NewbieBaba> nice name isnt it :D
[04:57] <NewbieBaba> kk goin to install that CD jrib
[04:57] <NewbieBaba> which option i'll choose
[04:57] <NewbieBaba> in text mode
[04:57] <NewbieBaba> oem mode
[04:57] <NewbieBaba> command-line
[04:57] <jrib> NewbieBaba: k, use "in text mode"
[04:58] <NewbieBaba> ok ty
[04:58] <NewbieBaba> hope cya with irssi :)
[05:30] <NewbieBaba> jrib that doesnt work :(
[05:31] <jrib> NewbieBaba: what happens
[05:31] <NewbieBaba> umm
[05:31] <NewbieBaba> i burnt new cd
[05:31] <NewbieBaba> booted with that cd
[05:31] <NewbieBaba> installed in text mode
[05:31] <NewbieBaba> it wanted to me reboot computer
[05:31] <NewbieBaba> so i did
[05:31] <NewbieBaba> n then i came to CMD line again
[05:31] <jrib> no errors?
[05:31] <NewbieBaba> hmm
[05:32] <NewbieBaba> yea while setup i got an error like some archives cant install
[05:32] <jrib> did you verify the new cd?
[05:32] <NewbieBaba> nope
[05:32] <NewbieBaba> ok i'll
[05:32] <NewbieBaba> if its bad record
[05:32] <NewbieBaba> what will i do?
[05:33] <NewbieBaba> one more new cd ?
[05:33] <NewbieBaba> no.. :(
[05:33] <NewbieBaba> no error while burning cd
[05:33] <NewbieBaba> do u think should i re-download it ?
[05:34] <NewbieBaba> it will take 4 hours for me :S
[05:34] <jrib> ok lets check the .iso you downloaded first then
[05:34] <jrib> !verify
[05:34] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:34] <NewbieBaba> which link should i go to?
[05:35] <jrib> second
[05:37] <NewbieBaba> what is "\path\to\cddir"
[05:38] <NewbieBaba> system cant find the way of folder
[05:38] <NewbieBaba> if i use that with "cd"
[05:39] <NewbieBaba> jrib :)
[05:39] <jrib> NewbieBaba: it is the path to wherever your .iso is
[05:40] <NewbieBaba> its in D:\Yedekler\
[05:40] <NewbieBaba> so ?
[05:40] <NewbieBaba> :S
[05:41] <jrib> so instead of typing \path\to\cddir type D:\Yedekler\
[05:42] <NewbieBaba> md5sum -c filename.md5
[05:43] <NewbieBaba> ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso is file name
[05:43] <NewbieBaba> when i replace filename with ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[05:43] <NewbieBaba> it says no such file or directory
[05:48] <NewbieBaba> jrib
[05:48] <jrib> oh you need to download the .md5 file
[05:48] <jrib> one sec
[05:49] <jrib> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/MD5SUMS
[05:49] <NewbieBaba> 549ef19097b10ac9237c08f6dc6084c6  ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[05:50] <NewbieBaba> want to me save that page as something.md5 ?
[05:50] <NewbieBaba> or what
[05:52] <NewbieBaba> jrib :/
[05:54] <jrib> NewbieBaba: yes
[05:54] <NewbieBaba> huh?
[05:54] <jrib> save the file and then that is file you pass to md5sum -c
[05:54] <jrib> save it in the same place as your .iso
[05:54] <NewbieBaba> save as TXT?
[05:55] <NewbieBaba> it wont let me to save as .md5 :/
[05:55] <NewbieBaba> No such file or directory
[05:55] <NewbieBaba> da
[05:58] <NewbieBaba> wow im tryin to install ubuntu for 4 hours already i could installd 100 x XP till now :D
[05:58] <NewbieBaba> please baba if i cant solve that problem i'll cry
[05:59] <NewbieBaba> jrib
[06:00] <jrib> NewbieBaba: save as txt
[06:00] <NewbieBaba> done
[06:00] <NewbieBaba> n then?
[06:00] <jrib> run the md5sum command
[06:03] <NewbieBaba> ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386: FAILED md5sum WARNING : 1 of 1 computed checksum did NOT match
[06:04] <NewbieBaba> jrib
[06:05] <jrib> NewbieBaba: well that's good, at least now we know why it isn't working.  But now you need to download again
[06:06] <jrib> after you download again, check the md5sum
[06:06] <NewbieBaba> ahhhhhhhhhh
[06:06] <NewbieBaba> i'll throw that s..t from the window now
[06:07] <NewbieBaba> can u give me the exact link to download the file please ?
[06:07] <jrib> NewbieBaba: heh, leave it downloading and go for a walk so you can relax a bit :)  I would be a little frustrated too
[06:07] <jrib> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[06:08] <NewbieBaba> %1 baba -.-
[06:08] <NewbieBaba> ahh well
[06:08] <NewbieBaba> im goin out
[06:08] <NewbieBaba> like u said (LOL)
[06:08] <NewbieBaba> cya soon baba
[06:08] <jrib> bye
[06:08] <NewbieBaba> thank you for everything
[06:08] <jrib> you're welcome
[06:08] <NewbieBaba> peace..
[09:58] <NewbieBaba> hey
[09:58] <NewbieBaba> jrib r u awake ? :)
[09:59] <jrib> NewbieBaba: hi
[10:00] <NewbieBaba> :) hows u baba
[10:00] <NewbieBaba> baba = a saying in Turkish like "buddy"
[10:00] <jrib> ah, good to know
[10:01] <NewbieBaba> well baba i DL/ed it again n burnt a cd (after checking with md5sum). i installed it in Text mode. finally desktop show up
[10:01] <NewbieBaba> but!... after i log nothing happens
[10:01] <NewbieBaba> i think still some files are missing
[10:01] <jrib> haha, of course.  Because taht would be too easy!
[10:01] <jrib> ok, but you got a nice colorful login screen right?
[10:01] <NewbieBaba> ok what now baba! :D
[10:01] <NewbieBaba> yea the orange one
[10:02] <NewbieBaba>  slm xD
[10:02] <NewbieBaba> that one
[10:02] <jrib> ok, when you login what happens exactly
[10:02] <NewbieBaba> nothing :)
[10:02] <jrib> so you stay at the login screen?
[10:02] <NewbieBaba> it passes login secreen
[10:02] <NewbieBaba> n then nothing
[10:02] <NewbieBaba> nope
[10:02] <jrib> so you have a solid color on the screen?
[10:02] <NewbieBaba> only orange window
[10:02] <NewbieBaba> yea exactly
[10:03] <NewbieBaba> actually nothing happened after installing in text mode so i tried those command that u teachd me
[10:04] <jrib> ok, no internet though?
[10:04] <NewbieBaba> so finally i got on login window(with desktop)
[10:04] <NewbieBaba> yea no internet
[10:04] <jrib> how do you connect to the internet?
[10:04] <NewbieBaba> with DSL modem
[10:04] <NewbieBaba> Eth.
[10:05] <jrib> hmm ok, no experience with those
[10:05] <jrib> NewbieBaba: so when you see that solid color screen, does it just stay there until you reboot?
[10:05] <NewbieBaba> yea
[10:05] <NewbieBaba> i tried to relog
[10:06] <NewbieBaba> like pressing "ctrl+alt+backspace"
[10:06] <NewbieBaba> its still same
[10:06] <jrib> by "still same" you mean the screen stayed there right?
[10:06] <NewbieBaba> yea
[10:06] <jrib> hmm weird, what video card do you have?
[10:06] <NewbieBaba> ATI EAX550
[10:06] <NewbieBaba> remember i installed it before everything was fine..
[10:07] <jrib> NewbieBaba: you had ubuntu edgy eft installed before without problems and you didn't need to do any strange configuration?
[10:07] <NewbieBaba> baba i used 2 cd to get on that desktop i want to tell u that i am missing some files for desktop i guess
[10:07] <jrib> NewbieBaba: I don't understand what you mean
[10:07] <NewbieBaba> yea i didnt need anything to do before
[10:08] <NewbieBaba> ok look
[10:08] <NewbieBaba> i installed in text mode
[10:08] <NewbieBaba> n then i got on command line again
[10:08] <NewbieBaba> n then i type those commands
[10:08] <NewbieBaba> sudo apt-cdroom add && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:08] <NewbieBaba> n then it gave me an error like
[10:09] <NewbieBaba> Failed to fetch cdrom : .../pool/main/e/ekiga/ekiga_2.0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[10:09] <jrib> you verified this cd?
[10:09] <NewbieBaba> yea
[10:09] <NewbieBaba> it said OK
[10:09] <NewbieBaba> n then that error >.<
[10:10] <jrib> if it gave you that error when you tried to verify it, there is probably something wrong
[10:10] <NewbieBaba> can u tell me how can i get that file from other cd to copy where should i copy it to
[10:10] <NewbieBaba> i verified it
[10:11] <NewbieBaba> nothing was wrong
[10:11] <NewbieBaba> after installing
[10:11] <NewbieBaba> n that command "sudo apt-cdroom ...."
[10:11] <NewbieBaba> it gave me that error
[10:11] <jrib> NewbieBaba: ok, if you do 'apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop' now it says it is installed?
[10:12] <NewbieBaba> " apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep -i installed "
[10:12] <NewbieBaba> i tried that one
[10:12] <NewbieBaba> nothing showed up
[10:13] <jrib> did you try it after installing ubuntu-desktop?
[10:13] <NewbieBaba> yea nothing showed up
[10:14] <NewbieBaba> either nothing happen
[10:14] <jrib> NewbieBaba: is your ubuntu in english?
[10:14] <NewbieBaba> Turkish
[10:14] <NewbieBaba> does it matter?
[10:14] <jrib> ah ok, just do "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop"
[10:14] <NewbieBaba> ok
[10:14] <NewbieBaba> i'll
[10:14] <NewbieBaba> bbl
[10:15] <jrib> yes, because it will say "installed" in turkish
[10:15] <NewbieBaba> :D
[10:15] <NewbieBaba> o
[10:15] <NewbieBaba> ok baba
[10:22] <NewbieBaba> jrib : Installed : (none) Candidate : 1.30 Version Table 1.30 0  500 Cdrom://Ubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ Release edgy/main packages
[10:22] <NewbieBaba> :/
[10:22] <jrib> NewbieBaba: ok, so now when you do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' you must get some errors.  Can you copy down the important ones? or save them to a file and then grab them later when you are on windows
[10:23] <NewbieBaba> how to save in a text file or something ?
[10:24] <jrib> NewbieBaba: sudo echo hi && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop &> ~/errors
[10:25] <jrib> oh, actually you don't need that hi part... just do:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop &> ~/errors
[10:26] <NewbieBaba> ok
[10:26] <NewbieBaba> goin..
[10:26] <jrib> erm, never mind.  You *do* need the hi part!
[10:26] <NewbieBaba> :D
[10:26] <NewbieBaba> k
[10:34] <NewbieBaba> k jrib i'll type u the error im gettin
[10:36] <NewbieBaba> Failed to fetch cdrom : [Ubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release.. 20061025.1] /pool/main/e/ekiga_2.0.3-0ubuntu3_1386.deb
[10:36] <NewbieBaba> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[10:37] <jrib> it's a problem with the cd then
[10:38] <NewbieBaba> man im just tryin to say if i had problem with an XP cd (if any file doesnt work) i was using any other cd for that file u know what i am saying ? i have 3 different cd so i think i can copy that file from other cd's..
[10:38] <NewbieBaba> help me with that maybe it'll help to my problem
[10:40] <jrib> ok, maybe you can go to packages.ubuntu.com and download the .deb package for _edgy's_ ekiga and drop it in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:40] <jrib> but it's unlikely this is the only problem
[10:40] <NewbieBaba> worth a try! why not yea?
[10:40] <NewbieBaba> :)
[10:42] <NewbieBaba> C:\Downloads>md5sum -c md5sums.txt
[10:42] <NewbieBaba> ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso: OK
[10:42] <jrib> right, and then you need to check the burn too
[10:43] <NewbieBaba> i burnt it in 4x mode
[10:43] <NewbieBaba> i have no less selection than that one
[10:44] <NewbieBaba> btw can u help me to find ekiga_2.0.3-0ubuntu3_1386.deb :/
[10:44] <jrib> "check cd for defects" when you boot from the cd, you ran this too?
[10:44] <NewbieBaba> yea
[10:44] <jrib> NewbieBaba: packages.ubuntu.com, then just search for ekiga in edgy.  There is a search box on the page
[10:44] <NewbieBaba> it passed
[10:44] <NewbieBaba> usr/bin/ekiga						    gnome/ekiga
[10:44] <NewbieBaba> usr/share/menu/ekiga					    gnome/ekiga
[10:45] <NewbieBaba> which one ?
[10:45] <jrib> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/gnome/ekiga
[10:45] <jrib> at the bottom, click on i386
[10:49] <jrib> hope that works, but try #ubuntu if not.  I'll be afk for a bit
[10:49] <NewbieBaba> how to drop it in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:49] <jrib> !ext3
[10:49] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[10:49] <NewbieBaba> ty