=== Yvonne [n=01101110@pdpc/supporter/active/Yvonne] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:11] apt-get uses only one connection per server, if you have several servers configured apt-get fetches the lists in parallel [12:12] kylem: those screenshots provide anything useful? [12:12] sort of :) [12:13] would it be helpful for me to test that -15.24 kernel? [12:13] yeah === devin_ [n=devin@DKELLY.RES.WPI.NET] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:13] okay, lemme go down and get onto the live cd again :) === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === guerby [n=guerby@gut75-4-82-235-162-148.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:22] kylem: should i feed this one the ignore_hpa=1 option? or try w/o? [12:23] please try both, but it's ignore_hpa=0 (1 is the default) [12:23] ahhhh [12:23] seems like "ignore_hpa=1" would turn ignore on [12:23] but i'll try both :) [12:23] any preference on which one first? [12:24] nope. [12:29] that worked, both with the =1 and =0 === jdong_ [n=jdong@STRATTON-SIX-SIXTY-FOUR.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:31] would you like the dmesg from both? i've saved them if you like [12:31] yes. please. [12:31] !pastebin [12:31] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [12:33] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15445/ (hpa=0) [12:34] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15446/ (hpa=1) [12:34] currently, it is booted w/o any kernel args, into "nomral" mode [12:34] and working fine :) [12:35] er. you didn't specify either of them? [12:35] bizarre. [12:35] yeah, on the 3rd (final) boot [12:35] but it booted on all 3? [12:35] interesting, heh. [12:35] thanks for your time [12:35] yup [12:35] :) [12:36] np, i prefer to at least provide some guinne pig when i can :) [12:36] guinnea? [12:36] well, you know === kylem nods. [12:37] I see what looks like some debug msgs left by "BEN" maybe :) [12:37] yeah those are fixed in the version in the archive :) === infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:38] i'm not super hacker, but it seems like hpa was simply disabled for this entirely [12:40] silly question, would using that kernel .deb make the l-r-m modules not work? i'm quite sure the answer is yes === madc [n=d@adsl-156-75-197.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:41] fryfrog, yeah. [12:41] kk === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:41] but the -15.25 is soon-to-join the repos, right? [12:41] when the version hits the archive, everything shouldbe groovy though. [12:41] (along with all the stuff it goes with) [12:41] kk [12:41] fryfrog, i already see it for amd64, i386 should be a little while. [12:41] ah, sweet [12:42] i appreciate all your help :) [12:42] np. s'what i'm hear for. :) === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:45] i think i am seeing the -15.24 in dist-upgrade, i thought it was going to be -15.25? [12:46] it will be [12:46] at least, dist upgrade is offering to update it [12:46] must not be in the archive yet [12:46] and aptitude show gives it as -15.24 [12:47] -15.25 isn't finished for i386 yet [12:48] https://launchpad.net/+builds/vernadsky [12:48] is there a -15.24 in the repos? [12:48] i don't see it on one box [12:48] yes, for i386 [12:48] but on the other, it thinks there is :/ [12:48] ah [12:48] for amd64 you should see -15.25 [12:49] we're in the middle of the -15.25 build cycle and pedalling as fast as possible === cjwatson starts another publisher run for -15.25/sparc and a load of language packs [12:49] ah, it must be picking it up because i installed the .deb that kylem showed me [12:49] ... sparc beat i386? :) [12:49] my other box sees the -15.24, but isn't trying to install it [12:51] kylem: fewer flavours [12:51] i386 tends to be late [12:51] true [12:51] 386, generic, server, server-bigiron, lowlatency, and any I forgot [12:51] why it take so long to build it ? [12:51] 3 hours.. [12:52] lowlatency of all the flavours, no? [12:52] Kmos: it's not running on the fastest available box [12:52] kylem: don't think so [12:52] cjwatson :-( [12:52] Kmos: which is my fault, I forgot to page a buildd admin to set that up [12:52] faster to just leave it going now [12:52] yeah [12:52] but it does always take a while, it's doing five kernel builds from scratch [12:53] what machine is it ? very slowly.. [12:53] it's on the launchpad machine' [12:53] ? [12:53] I can't remember if ccache is involved but ISTR it doesn't help much because there are so many different packages going through that the ccache tends not to be live [12:53] it's one of the i386 buildds [12:54] I don't really think it's doing all that disgracefully badly considering that there are five kernel builds to do in that time [12:54] with full module sets for each [12:54] it'll get there, no point worrying about it now [12:54] probably doesn't have CONCURRENCY_LEVEL set either. [12:54] it should do [12:54] ah. that's good then. [12:54] that's done automatically by the kernel's debian/rules if /CurrentlyBuilding exists which it should do on the buildds [12:55] tomorrow is done =) [12:55] lol [12:55] you're not really helping [12:55] i would like to.. [12:55] :) === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Exit,] [12:56] 18:29 -!- jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has quit ["FCKGW-RHQQ2-YXRKT-8TG6W-2B7Q8"] [12:56] i noticed that earlier... that looks like an XP key :p === conn [n=conn@83.141.127.50] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:57] yeah [01:00] mjg59: bug 106328 is a regression introduced by your most recent upload [01:00] Malone bug 106328 in hotkey-setup "dell.hk: line 21: setkeycode: command not found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106328 [01:01] Mithrandir: ^-- [01:01] I'm going to fix that since it looks trivial to do so === dolmen [n=ubuntu@cho94-1-81-57-157-99.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] -setkeycode e06d $KEY_MEDIA # (Inspiron) Media (e06d) [01:05] +setkeycodes e06d $KEY_MEDIA # (Inspiron) Media (e06d) [01:06] wow, +s is simple === jdong__ [n=jdong@SIMMONS-FIVE-EIGHTY-ONE.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong__ is now known as jdong [01:07] cjwatson: that's an easy fix =) === Kmos downloading trought update-manager kernel .24 === jdong_ [n=jdong@SIMMONS-FIVE-EIGHTY-ONE.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D80E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong_ is now known as jdong === jtt [n=chatzill@72-254-25-105.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thelaser [n=johnsona@63.224.101.82] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dsas [n=dean@ubuntu/member/dsas] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:45] cjwatson: Aw, feck :( Sorry! [01:45] Thanks for the fix === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === duese [n=Ident@p5484d75d.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dogmatism [n=dogmatis@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === infinity [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.static.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ahumane [n=oem@ool-43557e7c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thelaser [n=johnsona@c-24-10-203-225.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.216.191.211] has joined #ubuntu-devel === infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:29] hi mjg59, re: bug 103768 with network-manager and softmac drivers, did you identify where the problem is in nm/wpasupplicant? I read on the zd1211rw page of known issues that the interface needs to be brought up "ifconfig eth1 up" before sending commands, perhaps that's a quirk with softmac drivers? [02:29] Malone bug 103768 in linux-source-2.6.20 "softmac and network-manager cite unreconcilable differences" [Critical,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103768 [02:29] it's certainly an issue on my systems, tested on two separate pcs running feisty and tested with two different zd1211-based cards [02:33] I'm still looking into it [02:35] alright, thanks. It'd be nice to get this fix in before the final release, I'll be happy to contribute towards troubleshooting etc. to make it happen [02:36] conn: Right now it seems like I'm the only person working on it [02:36] My time is a bit limited, but I think I have a vague handle on what the problem is [02:36] The issue is finding a way of fixing it without interfering with other drivers [02:36] Can't absolutely promise anything, but I'm still working on it [02:37] I'll do some testing on my systems and if I find anything useful, I'll add to the bug. I just couldn't find where NetworkManager sets the ESSID, keys etc via wpasupplicant. [02:37] hmm I don't mean to pressure you at all, of course :). And I appreciate the work all of you are doing, heh ;) === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.0.23] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lonelyfarmer [n=mastermi@062016133197.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:47] mjg59: n-m from p.u.c/~scott/packages works better than ever :-) It now starts connected if I'm connected to the wired network (before upgrading, it didn't start connected). And now I can connect to my wpa wireless network (I'm there atm) but with the previous version I had problems to do it :) [02:48] mjg59: I'm here because the mail to u-d would get moderated :) [02:48] btw, does liferea works fine for you? :) [02:48] Liferea seems fine for me [02:49] Cool :) Though there seems to be a little problems with it for other people :-/ [02:49] wow, building a full set of all language packs really does take quite a while [02:49] What about an i386 kernel in a slow machine? :p [02:50] mjg59: btw, did you forget to set an Ubuntu Maintainer? ;) [02:50] it'll probably still be done before the 300+ other needs-build items for i386 [02:50] it's all still churning, just taking a while [02:50] halp [02:50] who was it that packaged beryl? [02:51] do users with ati or intel graphics still have to add stuff to their xorg.conf? [02:51] oho, kernel seems to be into binary stage finally [02:52] amd64 and powerpc have quiesced [02:53] pochu: No, I upload stuff under my own address [02:54] It's likely to carry on working longer than my @ubuntu one :) [02:55] +Maintainer: Riccardo Setti [02:55] dpkg-buildpackage complained because there wasn't an Ubuntu address there ;) [02:56] Which package was that? [02:56] it only complains if your own DEBEMAIL is @ubuntu.com [02:57] http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/packages/network-manager_0.6.4-6ubuntu7.diff.gz [02:57] or rather =~ /ubuntu/ [02:57] pochu: I've never uploaded n-m [02:57] ups, sorry [02:57] mjg59: It was Keibuk :S [02:57] Scott is keybuk [02:57] hehe [02:57] sorry, it only fatally complains if DEBEMAIL =~ /ubuntu/. It does warn otherwise but you can ignore ittt [02:57] it === pochu really needs to sleep :) [02:58] my DEBEMAIL is pochu@ubuntu.com, so maybe that's why I had to change it [02:59] people with DEBEMAIL =~ /ubuntu/ are responsible for handling it; others are not [02:59] then I assume the responsability :) [02:59] I'm not convinced it's an ideal heuristic but it's what we have [02:59] It's better than nothing, isn't it? ;) === gouki_ [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:00] mjg59: Sorry for bothering you, I'm going to sleep right now :) [03:00] Have a nice weekend! [03:00] Night! === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@125.212.12.5] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:15] sparc has quiesced === neumann [n=BNeumann@cpe-066-026-060-110.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _jason [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:18] as has ia64, so it's just the i386 backlog left [03:27] cjwatson: any plans to update the i386 buildd? === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:28] BenC: if it had hit palmer, it'd be fine - my fault [03:29] don't know about vernadsky upgrade plans [03:29] heh [03:29] argh, how many times does the kernel build hit stamp-build-kernel anyway? [03:30] pretty sure we could acquire a dual quad-core pretty easily [03:30] cjwatson: blame make-kpkg :/ [03:30] well, blame it now, because it wont be blamed in gutsy [03:30] anything specific that you want tested with latest kernel? just that it boots? [03:31] ajmitch: make sure you test -15.25 [03:31] -15.24 is known broken on sata_nv [03:31] yeah I've got that [03:31] and I have sata_nv === ajmitch is also testing lvm on raid [03:31] basically that it boots and that your drive sizes look sane [03:31] since it's been 2 months since I last rebooted :) [03:32] hopefully you wont hit any problems, I think we're all out of fire extinguishers [03:32] i'm wearing my asbestos vest today. [03:32] I'll track down a dapper live cd in case [03:32] dpkg-deb: building package `linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic' in `../linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic_2.6.20-15.25_i386.deb'. [03:33] shouldn't be too long now [03:33] yay [03:34] unfortunately hotkey-setup/i386 is stuck behind all the language packs, so I have to wait for them all [03:35] I'm unwilling to page any buildd admins at this time [03:39] are the language packs quick? [03:40] evms' udev rules only running on dm-* and raid is a bit... annoying. [03:40] Any reason these don't run on any block device? [03:40] BenC: individually, yes, but there are a lot of them === ajmitch hopes he's safe rebooting with evms installed still [03:41] cjwatson: would be nice if the "all" builds were load balanced :) [03:41] the buildds are doing a couple a minute [03:41] unfortunately historically arch-all binaries haven't necessarily actually *built* on all architectures [03:41] but they all build on i386, right? [03:41] yes [03:41] because that's historically been the safe working assumption [03:42] can you guys configure it to build on something else, for testing? [03:42] can we get some kind of regexp for linux-source-* to only build on the fast one? [03:42] probably, it would be nice to know what failed [03:42] :P === infinity [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:42] apparently tollef normally does it by temporarily turning off the other buildds and then massively scoring up linux-source-* .. [03:43] hadn't realised it was quite that crude :) === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:43] haha. === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:47] alright, -15.25 working here with / on lvm on md on a sata_nv chipset === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:48] nice [03:48] thank fuck. :) [03:48] I reckon :) [03:49] Once again, the glorious kernel team drag victory from the jaws of defeat [03:49] in Soviet Russia, the kernel boots YOU [03:55] into binary-udebs [03:55] like a boot stamping on your face, forever. [03:56] ajmitch: thanks === infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:58] ok submitting that to bash.org right now === mpt_ [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:09] publishing i386 kernel [04:10] \o/ === sonictwin [n=ryan@c-68-61-98-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _lemsx1_ [n=lemsx1@p86-65.acedsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:13] cjwatson: how much longer till you can get some sleep yourself? [04:14] <_lemsx1_> Failed to fetch MIRROR_HERE linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb 403 Forbidden [04:14] dunno yet, need to publish d-i and make sure that starts building and ideally start some livefs builds [04:14] _lemsx1_: intentional [04:14] <_lemsx1_> any reason for this? i guess this is known [04:14] <_lemsx1_> cjwatson: ok. figures [04:15] _lemsx1_: -15.25 kernel is publishing right now; use that when it's available [04:15] should be about half an hour [04:15] -14.23 broke booting for too many people [04:15] far easier to deal with complaints about a forbidden file than unbootable systems [04:15] <_lemsx1_> cjwatson: ok. sounds good. perhaps that should be in the subject of this room ;-) [04:15] it's in the topic in #ubuntu+1 [04:15] _lemsx1_: this isn't a help channel so I don't feel the need [04:16] <_lemsx1_> cjwatson: ok. i understand [04:16] besides, it'll be irrelevant soon [04:16] next publisher run after this, I'll remove the -14 kernels [04:16] <_lemsx1_> ajmitch: i didn't know there was #ubuntu+1 ... weird === minghua [i=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:17] it's been around for a few releases [04:18] <_lemsx1_> ajmitch: i see... make sense. i never really venture into beta releases ;-) but Feisty is too tempting [04:21] cjwatson: it's like what, 3am there? [04:21] cjwatson: you should get some rest dude [04:22] <_lemsx1_> BenC: rest or grab another beer and keep coding... ;-) [04:23] if he was coding, it'd be different...he's just babysitting automated systems :) [04:23] <_lemsx1_> BenC: ahhh... those things take care of themselves ;-) then yeah, he should get some rest [04:24] <_lemsx1_> cjwatson: give me root and i'll watch them for you. go to sleep [04:24] <_lemsx1_> jeje! [04:24] it's not entirely automated unfortunately - it's the CD builds I need to kick off at the appropriate time [04:24] and I don't have enough info yet to predict a time for it [04:24] <_lemsx1_> cjwatson: ouch [04:25] I'm basically dozing in the chair between events [04:25] and keeping an eye out for regression reports [04:25] <_lemsx1_> cjwatson: i know exactly what you mean.... no more java there? grab a coke [04:26] I have plenty of coffee, but I don't need to be alert at the moment, so I'd rather be able to sleep easily later === jdong_ [n=jdong@SIMMONS-TWO-NINETY-ONE.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:27] one of these days, launchpad will be able to manage the whole process start to end for us [04:28] but in the meantime there's enough stuff hooked up by spit and polish that it needs a bit more looking after if you want optimal output times [04:28] <_lemsx1_> cjwatson: launchpad is looking better by the minute. that's a very good collaboration site === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.46.105] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:40] so, I"m trying to squish a bug with the backlight not turning off when dpms is active. [04:40] Does HAL call /usr/share/acpi-support/screenblank on blanking [04:40] Many X drivers don't know how to do dpms properly [04:40] ? [04:40] No [04:40] This used to work, I'm pretty sure. [04:40] Hal doesn't trigger screen blanking [04:40] it's the free radeon. [04:41] hey mjg59. :) [04:41] Hm. Ought to work, but entirely possible that something's broken [04:41] what could I use to ascertain brokenness? [04:41] Pretty sure this is new with feisty. [04:42] I'm willing to fix it, but I like to save power (and screen life) :) [04:42] How are you triggering dpms? [04:42] <_lemsx1_> pardon my interruption, but could DPMS (bugs) crash a system? I always try to turn that off in my PC. when it's on, the PC crashes at random times (when idle for a long time) and I'm not sure if it's DPMS or something else (power, heat, who knows) [04:42] xscreensaver and xset dpms force off [04:42] And they result in a black screen but the backlight still on? [04:42] yes [04:43] Almost certainly a radeon bug then, I'm afraid [04:43] I'll file it [04:43] -15.25/i386 up and on all archive.ubuntu.com mirrors [04:43] mjg59: what could I do to help track it down? [04:44] mjg59: would it make a difference if driver is ati or radeon? [04:44] No, ati just loads radeon [04:44] <_lemsx1_> cjwatson: that's good news [04:44] is what I thought, but I wanted to check (there's some weird stuff floating around on the intarwebs around that) === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-122-102.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:44] I'm afraid I haven't done a great deal of work on radeon [04:44] The PM calls in the driver should be easy enough to find [04:45] Then it's a matter of figuring out what's different between them and feisty [04:45] Edgy, rather [04:47] hmm [04:47] so it's not a known problem [04:47] Not that I know of, though it's possible it is [04:47] I have no ATI machines here, sadly [04:48] mjg59: honestly how is that sad? ;-) [04:48] <_ion> s/sadly/fortunately/ [04:48] old ati cards are pretty nice. [04:48] wow ATI jokes come fast :) [04:48] Solarion: ah, that may be :) but you sure don't see many of those anymore :D [04:48] I would either buy a sufficiently old ATI or new Intel [04:48] mjg59, except your MBP ;P [04:48] kylem: Ha. Yeah, but not useful in this case [04:49] <_ion> As soon as they release the source code to fglrx with a free license, i'm not going to do ATI jokes anymore. ;-) [04:49] Turns out that writing drivers from scratch tells you little about bugs in the old one [04:49] mjg59, YET [04:49] _ion: my LUNGS hurt from laughing [04:49] kylem: Dude, I'm running it. It's useful in that respect. [04:49] mjg59, hehe. [04:49] _ion: and my heart hurts too because I have a x1400... [04:49] Need to figure out why the latest changes break LVDS, and then I think we're heading towards being ready for an initial release [04:49] mjg59, i need to go buy some hw and work on that. [04:50] Yeah, schedule should be a bit more empty for the next few weeks, I guess [04:51] <_lemsx1_> oh, i see, jokes about ATI are not offtopic... i guess we all just hate the stupid driver situation with them... ;-) [04:52] _lemsx1_: The driver situation is being worked on [04:52] We'll have something for gutsy [04:52] <_lemsx1_> mjg59: you are very optimistic [04:52] _lemsx1_: I'm running an open driver on my r500 [04:52] mjg59: are you an xorg hacker? [04:53] Solarion: I do a small amount of xorg work [04:53] bug #106414, if anyone cares [04:53] Malone bug 106414 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "[Feisty] DPMS no longer switches off backlight on radeon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106414 [04:53] mjg59: ooh very sweet [04:53] Right now it runs on a tiny subset of machines [04:53] And on everything else it probably melts your TFT [04:53] But there should be something useful soon [04:54] So, yeah, there's reason to be optimistic :) === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@203.110.163.74] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:54] cool, I'm glad to hear that [04:55] <_lemsx1_> mjg59: most people with ATI want 2 things "games" and "aiglx/xgl"... open drivers usually give you some of those 2 things. closed source one gives you 1 at best (hint: not x effects for desktop use) [04:55] some of us just want a dumb fb. [04:55] _lemsx1_: heh I've been running fglrx with Xgl for a year now.... === cjwatson suspects mjg59 is familiar with the driver situation ;-) [04:55] xcompmgr makes a dumb fb surprisingly usable [04:55] and it's been compizzing and beryling just fine [04:55] some of us want all of that and C3 states. :( [04:55] <_lemsx1_> jdong: went back to the old driver didn't you? [04:55] old driver? [04:55] I'm using Feisty fglrx.... [04:56] with feisty Xgl [04:56] Compiz works as-is in Xgl; Beryl requires the lupine repo 0.2.0 === zerbero_626 [n=jga@p85.212.8.127.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:56] <_lemsx1_> jdong: i wonder how you accomplished that feast [04:56] _lemsx1_: on my card it didn't take any effort at all... but YMMV [04:57] I find the world of fglrx to be really inconsistent from model to model [04:57] <_lemsx1_> jdong: what card is that? [04:57] x1400 mobility [04:57] I also walked an X800 (X700 maybe?) user through the same steps and it works fine for him too [04:57] <_lemsx1_> jdong: ah, i see... very recent stuff [04:57] basically the beryl wiki procedure... [04:57] yeah recent stuff [04:57] eh? x800/700 is r300? [04:57] I think that's highly relevant to the success rate [04:58] why would you need to use fglrx... [04:58] Well, r400 [04:58] But close enough [04:58] kylem: IIRC he said it was glitchy with OSS drivers? [04:58] mjg59, right [04:58] wasn't my card :-/ === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@203.110.163.74] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:59] <_lemsx1_> jdong: on every new release of drivers there is always a post on rage3d.com forums about missing xgl/aiglx ... nobody ever says it works for them [04:59] heh [05:00] <_lemsx1_> jdong: i'm so fed up with it, that i don't care anymore ... 2D is fine for most things. 3D for what matters (some games) [05:00] well Xgl is not exactly cake to set up for most people [05:00] <_lemsx1_> jdong: but you bet that i'm never buying an ATI (or recommending it) [05:00] yeah on the forums I've definitely seeen people put up a fight with fglrx === Solarion goes to bed [05:00] _lemsx1_: likewise.... I only settled for the card because this laptop model comes with a bunch of other perks.... [05:01] <_lemsx1_> jdong: i thought that AMD buying the company was going to actually improve the customer relationship... but i guess "costumer" really means "vendors" and "oem" for them... screw it [05:01] _lemsx1_: it looks downhill to me === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:02] _lemsx1_: AMD is planning to use its GPU integration to lock the framebuffer for DRM purposes [05:02] _lemsx1_: it looks like ATI is contagious [05:02] <_lemsx1_> jdong: looks to me that AMD is in the path of becoming synonymous with ATI and DRM, both acronyms with bad connotations ... oh well [05:03] where do src debs go? [05:03] <_lemsx1_> jdong: for me is Intel all the way from now on [05:03] _lemsx1_: me too [05:03] _lemsx1_: +1 [05:03] or a very old ati [05:03] Solarion: I suspect you don't mean source debs. you mean source packages? [05:03] LOL [05:03] cjwatson: yes [05:03] Solarion: in the regular archive right next to the binary packages [05:04] apt-get source [05:04] cjwatson: "regular archive" is what/where? [05:04] yes, that's how I installed it [05:04] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ [05:04] do you mean where do they go on your system? [05:04] yes [05:04] <_lemsx1_> Solarion: do you have a deb-src line in your sources.list file ? [05:04] 'apt-get source' puts them in the current directory [05:04] yes [05:04] so wherever you ran that [05:05] ah, there they are [05:05] <_lemsx1_> Solarion: man apt-get ;-) === infinity [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:07] any radeon driver hackers aroudn? [05:08] <_lemsx1_> Solarion: did you just use the H word? [05:08] <_lemsx1_> Solarion: just kidding ;-) [05:09] <_ion> I didn't get it. [05:10] <_lemsx1_> _ion: "hacker" has such a bad meaning for some people. programmer is much nicer: any radeon driver programmers around... [05:10] oh come on.... you gotta try harder to make _ion melt into a puddle [05:11] _ion: fglrx [05:11] _ion: automatix easyubuntu libdvdcss2 java opera flash shockwave ...... [05:11] <_lemsx1_> jdong: jeje! [05:11] :) [05:11] <_ion> From that lise, libdvdcss is a good thing, and it sucks that software patents prevent it from being distributed freely. :-) [05:11] <_ion> list [05:11] <_ion> CSS itself sucks, of course. [05:12] _ion: but Automatix Installs It (tm) [05:12] out of the box! [05:12] swiftfox! [05:12] <_lemsx1_> anybody knows of a screensaver that's actually useful? something that connects to an RSS feed and displays the text in a Slide-Show way that's fun to read and "flashy" ? [05:12] _lemsx1_: I've put up fortune -o as a screensaver before [05:12] that... actually didn't end well..... [05:12] who knew those jokes would offend? [05:12] <_lemsx1_> jdong: ROFL [05:13] <_lemsx1_> jdong: if you install the wrong fortune cookies they will... i love those offensive thingies.. they are fun [05:13] <_ion> If i say "from now on, 'hacker' means a terrorist", would you stop (and encourage others to stop) using the word because me and perhaps some other people have a stupid idea about the word's meaning? :-) [05:14] <_lemsx1_> _ion: if you convince the society that surrounds me, i will... but that's assuming that "terrorist" is "bad" for me ;-) [05:14] <_lemsx1_> _ion: what if i grew up in a society where what we know as "terrorist" are consider "martyrs" ? [05:14] then there are other issues to deal with than the connotation of 'hacker' :) [05:14] <_ion> :-) [05:15] <_lemsx1_> jdong: couldn't agree more [05:15] <_lemsx1_> jdong: jeje!... like "lack of food for proper nutrition" for instance... boy i'm getting hungry... jeje! === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:17] langpacks and hotkey-setup done, publishing; d-i building [05:19] forgot to remove -14 kernels, looking at that now === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.6.35.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:21] <_lemsx1_> jdong: i got the idea of a good screensaver from the slide show on the Nintendo Wii... but that's offtopic anyway ... i'll keep looking (or venture into writing one) === asac_ is now known as asac === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-122-102.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === guiment [i=guiment@gateway/tor/x-3234d3e186fc733f] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:39] is it true that feisty will include compiz in the main ubuntu repository (that is, not universe or multiverse)? [05:40] it's already there and instaled by default [05:40] jdong: but not enabled by default, right? [05:40] correct [05:40] it can be enabled thru System->Prefs->Desktop Effects === infinity [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:46] jdong: and beryl will stay universe? [05:46] yes [05:47] jdong: thank you [05:47] no problem :) [05:47] jdong: probably more beryl plugins should be added, though [05:47] useable in compiz === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:48] well what you see at this stage is what will ship [05:48] compiz by default will be pretty conservative [05:48] right.. [05:48] additional compiz plugins are in universe, compiz-extra [05:48] beryl and beryl-plugins-unsupported are both in universe too [05:49] jdong: of course it will be, it has to, we don't want to discourage newbyes because of some eye candy [05:49] :) [05:49] jdong: i mean i strongly agree [05:49] :) === richguit [n=rich@ip-83-99-24-73.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === guiment [i=guiment@gateway/tor/x-3234d3e186fc733f] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === guiment [i=guiment@gateway/tor/x-3234d3e186fc733f] has joined #ubuntu-devel === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:56] jdong: one last question: as you know, the initial plans were to abandon the inclusion of compiz and some drivers by default: how did this change? or when? [05:57] guiment: To the best of my knowledge Compiz went in by default because of Mark/TB influences.... [05:57] guiment: proprietary drivers can be easily installed via the Restricted Manager [05:57] they're not installed by default, but it's easy to turn them on (desktop effect, restricted drivers manager) [05:57] and for nvidia and nvidia-new, they will be set up to work with 3D effects [05:57] or compiz may be installed by default, but not enabled [05:57] ajmitch: installed by default; not activated [05:57] jdong, ajmitch: i know how much mark wanted that, i was just curious when this changed [05:58] it was.... like a month ago? === infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pradeep [n=pradeep@unaffiliated/pradeep] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:58] jdong: aha, i thought so === jtt [n=chatzill@72-254-25-105.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:59] jdong, ajmitch: any official announcement? i would like to read that [06:00] don't recall any official announcement... [06:00] jdong: oh, ok [06:00] jdong: thanks again :) [06:01] ajmitch: thanks too [06:01] anytime === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D80E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:01] infinity2: aww infinity+1 would sound so much cooler :) === thelaser [n=johnsona@c-24-10-203-225.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === guiment [i=guiment@gateway/tor/x-3234d3e186fc733f] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === infinity2 is now known as infinity [06:02] livefses building, braindump of state sent to Mithrandir, and bedtime at last [06:02] night cjwatson [06:02] don't work too hard :) === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wm_eddie [n=wm_eddie@icoro.wm-eddie.info] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lfittl [n=lfittl@213.129.230.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:22] <_ion> Yay, dovecot 1.0.0 === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@SIMMONS-TWO-NINETY-ONE.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-115-218-80.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === YokoZar [n=scott@c-76-20-46-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:57] So, I just became an ubuntu member [06:57] will I automatically have my launchpadnick@ubuntu.com as an email address? I'd like to use it for the package maintainer field. [06:58] yep [06:58] not sure exactly how automatic it is, but it should work, and forward to your preferred address in launchpad === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:13] ajmitch: hooray it works perfectly [07:13] great === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121ofb.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === daq4th [n=darkness@netstation-005.cafe.zSeries.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-54-53.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mcarroll [n=mc@S010600134642ba3b.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mcarroll [n=mc@S010600134642ba3b.vc.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === dogmatism [n=dogmatis@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pradeep [n=pradeep@unaffiliated/pradeep] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121ofb.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === neumannx [n=BNeumann@cpe-066-026-060-110.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sonictwin [n=ryan@c-68-61-98-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === richguit [n=rich@ip-83-99-24-73.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEE369.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:31] hd*->sd* migrations issues in bug #93655 should that be raised in importance [09:31] Malone bug 93655 in udev "hda -> sda transition not handled during upgrade" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93655 [09:33] should probably just be releasenoted. === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@82.152.169.96] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:55] cjwatson: thanks for uploading the hotkey-setup typo fix [10:03] sladen: Unique UUID Identifier? sounds like Personal Pin Number :) [10:04] uniquely universally unique personal identifier identifier number [10:04] sladen: (tm) [10:06] Treenaks: I think there's some money to be made it in [10:06] sladen: especially if you can sell it to governments === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-111-226.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yosch [n=yosch@sal63-1-82-243-96-232.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpytasz [n=dduck@81.219.176.52] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm1.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gouki_ is now known as gouki === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@stream.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@stream.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.26.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tkjacobsen [n=tkjacobs@105.18.235.85.dk-boa.res.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=ubuntu@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:20] cjwatson: ubiquity install release notes button leads to http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/feistybeta ; that is certainly going to change? [11:20] Mithrandir: ^ do you know about this as well? [11:21] cjwatson: FYI, "Install" icon is translated now on live CD, due to new langpacks [11:23] pitti: ugh, no, nobody has filed a targeted bug with critical importance about it. [11:23] Mithrandir: ok, will file one once Im back on my normal system with real kezboard layout [11:23] argh [11:24] kezboard ftw. [11:24] :-) === mvo [n=egon@p54A654C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Robot101 [n=robot101@light.bluelinux.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:27] hi mvo [11:28] alter! [11:28] hey pitti [11:28] hi mvo, pitti [11:29] hi mvo, pitti, ajmitch [11:30] hey ajmitch, Nafallo [11:30] pitti: I expect cjwatson won't be around for a few hours; he was up all night feeding the hamsters [11:31] heno: new day, new candidates. Care to update the testing grid? [11:31] we should all give him a hug when he returns :) [11:31] Mithrandir: yep, will you pm me md5sums? [11:31] sure [11:33] see msg === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.6.35.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:41] Mithrandir: done. I didn't see ubuntu-server amongst those. still building that? [11:44] heno: could you please wipe results for netboot too? thanks [11:44] (and upgrade) === iceman [n=iceman@203.20-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:46] fabbione: yeah, I wasn't sure about that. will do [11:51] heno: cheers mate === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:56] *** 20070414 CD and DVD images are ready. Check md5sums and post test results here: https://www.stgraber.org/ubuntu/isotesting/ *** === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-28-76.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === duese [n=Ident@p5484D9A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === afflux [n=k@pentabarf.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bdgraue [n=bdgraue@dyndsl-080-228-221-247.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:11] i updated to 2.6.20-14 and now to 2.6.20-15 and have still this problem http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/9217/ === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:15] I installed the kernelupdated to 2.6.20-14.23 yesterday, which broke my system (something with ata)... but I removed the older kernels that were still installed for cleaning up. [12:15] now i'm in a livecd, chrooted into feisty and updated to -15.25 --- and I still have the same ata error (revalidation failed, n_sectors mismatch) === Zdra [n=zdra@137.163-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@p54A654C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:23] mvo: welcome! [12:23] ready for some fresh upgrade testing? :) [12:23] i someone need more specific to help, please ask.. [12:24] heno: maybe, but I will have to stop when my wife comes back and catches me in front of the computer at a weekend ;) === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:24] heh === mvo just got dcc-spamed [12:27] Mithrandir: the release notes thing pitti mentioned is fine, it goes through a redirect === Lutin [n=Lutin@ubuntu/member/lutin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:30] cjwatson: great job on the all-night CD building! hope you slept well [12:31] like a baby === ivoks [n=ivoks@161.53.50.78] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.10.148.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:34] wow, people are still reporting bugs from Herd 1 [12:34] (bug 106346) [12:34] Malone bug 106346 in ubiquity "Installer crashed in a Compaq Evo 510 Celeron (dup-of: 61912)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106346 [12:34] Malone bug 61912 in ubiquity "assert cache._depcache.BrokenCount == 0" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61912 [12:34] ehehe [12:34] (61912 is closed actually, it just has a high/confirmed edgy task in case I ever get round to a point release) === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:42] Mithrandir: I've committed a seed change to trim off 67MB or so of kdepim stuff from the Edubuntu DVD, which should bring it back within size limits === Enola_Gay [n=enola@ip79.134.1511H-CUD12K-03.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:43] that's the last of the CD-health-check-reported problems [12:43] hi all === Sevensins [n=Sevensin@p57A2BCC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Sevensins [n=Sevensin@p57A2BCC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@38-10.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@137.163-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elubie [n=xenia@C48c7.c.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:58] Is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/99498 planned to be fixed until Feisty release? [12:58] Malone bug 99498 in hal "Nautilus and hal can't umount usb hd disk" [High,Confirmed] === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shegde [n=heuristi@59.92.155.102] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shegde [n=heuristi@59.92.155.102] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:12] heno: ping? [01:13] fabbione: hi [01:13] heno: hey dude.. i finished all the sparc test installs.. i only need to re-test upgrade with the new kernel even if i doubt it will fail. [01:13] heno: i will try to do it either this evening or tomorrow, otherwise it's thumb up here [01:13] fabbione: ROCK! [01:14] Mithrandir: ^^ for you too [01:14] (thumbs up of course includes reading the Release Notes.. otherwise there are known bugs) [01:15] cjwatson, Mithrandir: here's the promised bug: bug 106517 [01:15] Malone bug 106517 in ubiquity "Release notes button points to beta page" [Critical,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106517 === Toaster^ [n=toaster@62.73.248.184] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:16] pitti: 11:27 Mithrandir: the release notes thing pitti mentioned is fine, it goes through a redirect === Toaster^ [n=toaster@62.73.248.184] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:16] hey cjwatson! big hug for the night shift! [01:16] indeed [01:17] cjwatson: oh, sorry, I didn't see this, was offline for testing [01:17] cjwatson: so I close this again, sorry for the panic === Toaster^ [n=toaster@62.73.248.184] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:17] address for case of beer shipment? === Toaster^ [n=toaster@62.73.248.184] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:17] pitti: (done already) === wdh [n=wdenhaan@s55935227.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel ["paard"] === dholbach [n=daniel@e178234244.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:19] hey daniel === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F74DD9.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach__ [n=daniel@i59F74DD9.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach__ [n=daniel@i59F74DD9.versanet.de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [01:25] mjg59; well... there you have it. http://digg.com/linux_unix/Newly_leaked_Antitrust_Memo_Bill_Gates_on_Making_ACPI_Not_Work_with_Linux === mdz [n=mdz@ip-81-1-98-32.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@161.53.50.78] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:33] cjwatson: coolie, thanks. === vlb [n=vkbftw@p54939FA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dystopianray [n=dystopia@adsl117-124.dyn.koalatelecom.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@ubuntu/member/mrpouit] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dystopianray [n=dystopia@adsl117-124.dyn.koalatelecom.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === Adri2000_ [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180108216.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_the_2nd [n=asac@e179174195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@68.207-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:55] link to daily builds? [01:55] dthacker: iso? [01:56] yes, please [01:56] cdimage.ubuntu.com [01:56] :-) [01:56] tnx [01:56] np === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_the_2nd [n=asac@e179174195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A70437.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pradeep [n=pradeep@unaffiliated/pradeep] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_the_2nd [n=asac@e179174195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@ubuntu/member/mrpouit] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bonii [n=boni@unaffiliated/bonii] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm1.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger_t_ [n=tobias@p54A70437.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.0.23] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [n=scott@wing-commander.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.0.23] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bdgraue_ [n=bdgraue@dyndsl-080-228-221-247.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:36] iwj: I still get that error with disks already added on one array with up-to-date feisty. maybe it's because the array is degraded? [03:36] Nafallo: was the raid downgraded before rebooting? [03:36] or degraded [03:37] fabbione: yes [03:38] fabbione: planning on fixing that soon though. I took the server down to add another harddrive :-). [03:38] Nafallo: ok.. then boot normally, put the raid back to full state and reboot [03:38] moving data around now [03:38] ok [03:38] i think it's normal you see error when a raid is degrade [03:38] +d [03:38] yea. but the system should still boot. [03:38] i would test it here but it takes over 10 hours to resync afterwards [03:39] there is an ENVVAR to make it booting [03:39] I think we should work on it in gutsy rather than feisty though [03:39] the problem is very simple [03:39] if the fix is easy enough we can put it in -updates anyway. [03:40] there is no way to tell when all devices for a certain raid set will appear [03:40] so the only thing we can do is to make sure all of them are there before starting the raid [03:40] yea. that sounds like what I was about to write :-) [03:40] to be on the safe side you can set an envvar to override that [03:40] there is no other way to fix it [03:40] hmm, oki. [03:41] check mdadm changelog to see how to do it [03:41] i don't recall it right now === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:42] I'll make the array happy instead :-) [03:42] still running pvmove from the disk I will add to the new disk. have been running for hours now and is at 23.9% ;-) [03:43] pvmove is slow [03:43] sure is :-) [03:43] sometimes it's faster to backup/reformat/restore [03:43] but it's wonderful weather, and it can work without me sitting and watch it :-) [03:43] assuming you have enough space to do that [03:43] ehhee === heno takes a break. back in an hour === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9019.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:48] do we know if feisty will be delayed yet? === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:50] Nafallo: nope.. RC clearly is.. release is unknown [03:50] thought so. [03:50] but I didn't know if RC and final had to have that week... ;-) [03:50] in that case it would have been known :-) [03:51] well it's best if there sometime in the middle just collect pieces around [03:52] agreed. and atleast I think it should be a week ;-) [03:52] moins Nafallo / fabbione [03:52] morning imbrandon :-) [03:52] hi imbrandon [03:52] hi imbrandon [03:52] heya ajmitch [03:53] good timing, I'm just off to sleep now :) [03:53] snow everywhere out side, it supose to be SPRING !?! /me hushes [03:53] heh [03:53] it's deadly warm here [03:53] sleep well ajmitch [03:53] night ajmitch [03:53] night [03:54] fabbione, it was 80 F a few days ago, now snow, next week they are calling for 80 F again [03:54] crazy [03:54] 80 F.. how much is that in C = [03:54] ? [03:54] ummm /me looks [03:54] 80 degrees Fahrenheit = 26.6666667 degrees Celsius [03:54] i would be dead at that temp... [03:55] anything > 10C is deadly for me :) [03:55] thats normal summer temp here :) [03:56] 20+ C here :-) [03:56] the DataCenter is always nice and cool here though [03:56] makes hot days nice [03:56] hehe [03:56] our data center wasn't so cool last week :/ [03:56] secondary aircon failure, got a widdle bit warm [03:57] not dangerously warm but warmer than i would have liked :P === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.46.105] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:58] if ours goes above 72F ( 22C ) alarms start calling everyone in the company, normaly we stay arround 50F on the DC floor, plenty of CRAC's to keep it cool [03:58] hey Lathiat [03:58] Lathiat: finally i see you around [03:58] fabbione: hehe, what can i do for you :) [03:58] Lathiat: nothing really.. i just had to talk to you === craigaa [n=craigaa@dsl-242-116-18.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === craigaa [n=craigaa@dsl-242-116-18.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:24] Anyone here using cacti on dapper that wants to test some security updates? === asac_the_2nd [n=asac@e179174195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #ubuntu-devel === math_b [n=mathieu@vbo91-2-82-239-207-88.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@frnk-590c5fd4.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:01] Hi fabbione. IIRC, you are situated in Copenhagen. Any chance that you might come to Aarhus at any point in time? [05:01] Fjodor: i actually might next weekend [05:01] why? [05:02] Just saw your nick and recalled that I offered you a beer for doing the locale work back when dapper was in beta :-) [05:02] I think [05:02] oh [05:02] ehhe [05:02] hehe [05:02] i will know more during the week.. it depends a lot on how release goes [05:02] Yearh. it's scheduled for the 19th, isn't it? [05:03] basically i need to go to Vejle for one of this confirmation parties on sunday and planned to visit friends in rhus from friday [05:03] but if we are delayed i might jump on the train on sunday morning and be back sunday evening [05:04] Ah. My gf goes to Crete Saturday morning, so I'm basically free from then, so do let me know if you are coming to town [05:04] Fjodor: sure.. how can i contact you in case? [05:04] Fjodor: gf doesn't like beer? or to young? ;-) [05:04] sune@molgaard.org [05:05] Nafallo: there is no such thing as too young in DK [05:05] Nafallo: More likely too old. She has prematurely grown over beer... [05:05] fabbione: kewl! :-) [05:05] Fjodor: :-) [05:07] fabbione: Or mobile: +45 20 16 32 95 [05:07] Fjodor: writing down thank [05:11] fabbione: And finally_ ICQ is 20952483, MSN Messenger is msn@molgaard.org and jabber is fjodor@jabber.dk === ivoks [n=ivoks@ivoks.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:11] it's enough your phone num [05:11] i won't have inet from where i will be [05:11] neither my laptop [05:11] Fair enough === reitblatt [n=mark@resnet-50-180.dorm.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === macd [n=d@adsl-156-75-197.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:13] Oh, if you call instead of texting, do identify yourself as Fabbione from #ubuntu-devel. I have a lousy short-time memory, so I might get confused :-) [05:14] Fjodor: sure.. ok :) [05:14] :-) === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73ECC.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73ECC.versanet.de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [05:15] bbl === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73ECC.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73ECC.versanet.de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === Zdra_ [n=zdra@57.241-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra_ [n=zdra@57.241-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === desudation [n=dpollock@eclipse/developer/Eclipse/desudation] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-122-102.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jtt [n=chatzill@72-254-30-46.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === desudation [n=dpollock@eclipse/developer/Eclipse/desudation] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === illovae [n=illovae@uni14-1-82-233-221-131.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === noela [n=parmeggi@cm96100.red83-165.mundo-r.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9019.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_the_2nd [n=asac@e179174195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === desudation [n=dpollock@eclipse/developer/Eclipse/desudation] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jpon [n=jpniane@neu67-3-82-239-80-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gortiz_ [n=gortiz@88.87.105.4] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === bf [n=bfallik@209-6-22-230.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elubie [n=xenia@C48c7.c.strato-dslnet.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === codingmaster [n=codingma@p5b154486.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gordon_ [n=chatzill@cpe-76-183-250-45.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180108216.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra__ [n=zdra@137.163-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@22-196.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === NessieLiberation [n=tom@88-107-0-186.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === NessieLiberation [n=tom@88-107-0-186.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === saelynh_X-chat [n=saelynh@cha92-11-82-243-247-67.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:27] hi there [07:28] I just want to know if festy will be out next thurday or if will need to be a little be more pacient ? [07:29] saelynh_X-chat: any deviations to the schedule will be announced when they're made. [07:29] or rather, when they're decided. === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-94-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jelmer [n=jelmer@157pc196.sshunet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:33] oki :) [07:34] thanks Mithrandir [07:34] np === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180108216.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === john_ [n=john@h-87-251-219-203.wholesale.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Moniker42_PS3 [n=sean@87-194-119-253.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thepumpkin1979 [n=jhernand@190.72.175.241] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-94-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-94-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === bf [n=bfallik@209-6-22-230.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:33] linux-server: Depends: linux-image-server (= 2.6.20.14.12) but 2.6.20.15.14 is to be installed [08:33] is that intentional? === ScottK thinks it means your local mirror is not fully updated. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vandenoever [n=vandenoe@p5497958F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:40] on edgy, the following command reports an error: [08:40] echo hi |valgrind iconv -f ISO-8859-15 [08:40] but this is ok: [08:40] echo hi |valgrind iconv -f ISO-8859-1 === Moniker42_PS3 is now known as Moniker42 === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [i=guido-et@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:03] !bugs | vandenoever [09:03] vandenoever: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ IRC is not a good medium to report bugs and this channel is for development coordination. === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:04] Seveas: but can you confirm it? [09:05] vandenoever, I'm no longer running edgy, so I cannot confirm [09:05] Seveas: is the problem still there on feisty? === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-119-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:07] ==24311== ERROR SUMMARY: 6 errors from 5 contexts (suppressed: 13 from 1) [09:08] Seveas: thanks [09:08] i'll note that in the report too [09:09] vandenoever, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15639/ [09:10] Seveas: it's identical to mine === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121ofb.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [i=guido-et@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Monk-e [i=guido-et@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-devel === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:37] CALL FOR TESTING: We have a new kernel that is supposed to fix regressions in 2.6.20-15.25 [09:37] if you could test http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels/feisty-release/ [09:38] I'd appreciate knowing if it still works as opposed to -15.25 [09:38] also, if -15.25 doesn't work for you because of sata_nv or HPA issues, please let me know if it does work for you [09:38] please report success/failure to #ubuntu-kernel, and make sure to note whether -15.25 worked for you prior to this [09:38] famous last words of petunia bowl: Oh no, not again! [09:39] pitti: you have a magical lba28 HPA drive, can you test please? :) [09:40] BenC: sure, will do [09:40] pitti: thanks [09:40] BenC: in about 30 minutes or so, my postgresql testsuite is running ATM [09:41] pitti: No problem, it'll be that long before I can get the upload ready and feel comfortable about uploading it [09:42] BenC: darn, I just completed my very last test case of the 20070414 CDs :) [09:42] BenC, i don't suppose you want to pull in the intel crestline patch + the gatt patch from mainline ubuntu-feisty? ;-P [09:42] otherwise i'll fix it in -security post-release [09:42] doesn't really matter, since it needs userspace bits tho. === asac_the_2nd [n=asac@e179174195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [09:43] if it doesn't matter, I think it should go in post-release. [09:43] kylem: I would love to, but I think mdz/cjwatson/Mithrandir will shoot me [09:43] k. [09:43] can't blame a guy for trying. ;-) [09:43] bbiab. playoffs. [09:43] collectively I think they have a decent chance of getting one bullet on me, even from the EU :) [09:43] BenC: I would never be so kind as to shoot a coworker if I was angry with them. I'm much more cruel than that. [09:43] lol [09:43] oh, and .no isn't part of the EU. It just feels that way. === mjrclark [n=mjrclark@host81-155-212-12.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === codingmaster [n=codingma@p5b154486.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:44] .no would do the EU some justice...very nice country [09:44] too bad that we saw so little of it during the sprint === kylem pines for fjords [09:46] we did get to see an underground bowling alley, what more do you want? :) [09:47] pitti: if we ever end up having a smaller sprint here we can have it in our cabin up in the mountains. === tommy1987 [n=tommy198@82-46-12-56.cable.ubr07.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _phantom_ [n=phantom@82-46-12-56.cable.ubr07.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vandenoever [n=vandenoe@p5497958F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["] [09:57] Mithrandir, that would be awesome === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gortiz_ [n=gortiz@88.87.105.4] has left #ubuntu-devel ["See] [10:15] bug 106622 [10:15] Malone bug 106622 in linux-source-2.6.20 "linux-image-2.6.20-15 fails to properly detect and configure EMS USB-II" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106622 [10:17] it gives a patch =) [10:19] mdz, Mithrandir, cjwatson_: I feel comfortable with the current patch fixing things [10:20] BenC: is there anything it doesn't cover? === codingmaster [n=codingma@p5b154486.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] I'm going to upload with this patch people.u.c/~bcollins/libata.diff [10:20] Mithrandir: it covers everyone that reported problems related to sata_nv and HPA, so far [10:20] BenC: and do we have a solution to the problem of module parameters not being propagated? [10:21] trejack has a different issue, that seems unrelated to anything we are doing right now, and which I cannot reproduce [10:21] BenC: alright, back from dinner and testsuite finished; you still need me to test that kernel? [10:21] Mithrandir: kyle is working on something for initramfs-tools and modprobe [10:21] pitti: yes, please [10:21] alrighty [10:22] Mithrandir: I'll hold off on an upload for about an hour, just to make sure testing goes well [10:22] but so far so good [10:22] BenC: please just upload it, we can easily reject it if it's broken. [10:23] Mithrandir: ok [10:23] Now, as much as I like spending my b-day with you guys, my wife has a party going on here for me :) [10:24] BenC: ooh, happy birthday! [10:24] BenC: funny that we two have bday on the same day [10:24] probably not in the same year, though :) [10:24] pitti: today is your b-day too? [10:24] yes :) [10:24] sweet, happy b-day :) [10:24] I'm '72 [10:24] BenC: enjoy it. [10:24] thanks *smile* [10:24] pitti: congrats. [10:24] BenC: '80 [10:25] well, 1972, not 72 years :) [10:25] Mithrandir: thanks [10:25] pitti is a mad youngster, just like me, it seems. [10:25] Mithrandir, mdz, cjwatson_: Uploaded, and afk [10:25] unfortunately neither my gf nor some of my friends are in the city; fortunate for working on the weekend, though :-P === desudation [n=dpollock@eclipse/developer/Eclipse/desudation] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === pitti ^5s Mithrandir === dr_kabuto [n=franky@host50-159-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti boots new kernel [10:26] Mithrandir: speaking of smaller sprints, I'm sure you guys would enjoy Kronlunds too, during winter or summer. :) [10:26] maswan: that's an excellent suggestion. Does it have some kind of URL with prices and booking info and so on? [10:27] also, do you know about how it is, bandwidth-wise? [10:27] Mithrandir: I will know in one month. :) It was good before the university sold it off anyway. [10:28] Mithrandir: http://www.kronlundkursgard.se/ [10:28] BenC: '72 ? lol.. [10:28] Mithrandir: let me dig for prices === kylem liked the weather in scandinavia a lot [10:29] reminded me of home :P === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:29] it's slightly hard to get to ume, that's a downside. [10:30] kylem: I liked .ca a lot, it reminded me of home too. :-) [10:30] Yeah, there are good flights from arlanda, but it is one more hop from the closest international airport [10:30] Mithrandir, BenC, kylem: new kernel 15.26 is happy on my (quoting Ben) 'mad lba28' drive [10:30] [ 29.770878] ata1.00: ata_hpa_resize 1: sectors = 25408559, hpa_sectors = 25410672 [10:30] [ 29.770885] ata1.00: Host Protected Area detected. [10:30] [ 29.770886] current size : 25408559 sectors (13009 MB) [10:30] [ 29.770888] native size : 25410672 sectors (13010 MB) [10:30] pitti: coolie. [10:31] BenC: it's the year =) lol [10:31] 35 years old.. happy b'day [10:31] :) === jan_ [n=jan@proxy-4.kliksafe.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:33] maswan: now you made me miss being a student and doing all the crazy stuff we did, including NUCCCs. [10:33] Mithrandir: I got a quote at ~1300 SEK/person from lunch-lunch, including single rooms, hottubs, etc. [10:33] including food too? [10:33] Mithrandir: so about 1k SEK/day including food if you can stand sleeping 4 people in a room. [10:34] yes, that's two lunches, one dinner, one breakfast and two fika [10:34] doesn't sound bad at all then. [10:34] plus a few hundred SEK/day for conference room === tormod [n=ubuntu@80-219-112-71.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:35] pitti, good to hear. === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:35] Mithrandir: anyway, if you guys are interested, I'm heading there in may, so I can get back to you wrt bandwidth etc. [10:36] Mithrandir: heh, I haven't quite let go of that world yet, I'm heading to NUCCC in Lund next month. :) [10:36] maswan: I'm not the one doing plannings for sprints, but I could ask about it, sure. [10:36] maswan: lucky you. :-) [10:37] Mithrandir: it's good for up to about 80 people, 100 can probably squeeze in (like we did att NUCCC here) [10:37] yeah, I'd be thinking distro-team sprint or something like that. [10:37] where we're around 20-ish. 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[11:57] services might just break on its own too [11:57] but it's not as much fun if you don't break Apt too ;) === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:58] alternately, the boinc-client uninstallation script might just be broken too and I hit both bugs at once :( === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phaidros [n=phaidros@daddl.fdmbx.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:01] hi, just read this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041301610.html [12:01] is ubuntu kernel already patched for madwifi? [12:02] seems to be a major bug in madwifi :/ === illovae_ is now known as illovae [12:02] that sounds like that AP scanning bug from a month ago [12:03] jdong: it is. [12:03] so its done already. [12:03] I just found it today :) [12:03] yeah [12:03] wasn't for a while in #madwifi :) [12:04] ok, kewl. [12:04] thanks [12:07] phaidros: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-404-1 [12:08] phaidros: Jan 01 [12:08] 09* === iceman [n=iceman@203.20-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:09] wow, january .. thats some time ago [12:09] hehe, news are late then :) [12:09] oh man, how do I approach this [12:09] my hard disk light flashes once a second just about [12:10] nothing should be causing that