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persialinux-image-2.6.20-15-lowlatency  2.6.20-15.25 fails to boot on my hardware.  Are there still known issues with drive detection (at which you are all hard at work), or should I file a bug?03:07
mjg59Please file a bug, especially if you can reproduce it with the non-lowlatency kernel03:08
persiamjg59: OK.  Thanks.03:08
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cjwatsonpublishing -15.25/i386 now; ETA half an hour or so04:10
mjg59cjwatson: I hope you get to have some sleep soon?04:12
cjwatsonit's a point of view04:12
cjwatsonoops, meant to publish d-i source at the same time04:13
cjwatsonoh well, more runs needed anyway04:13
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:cjwatson] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | 2.6.20-15.25 Uploaded - If you have a BUG, it's too late to get it in for release.
cjwatsonI kind of need to test alternate/ps3 too which means waiting for d-i to be available04:19
cjwatsonmight do that tomorrow though04:19
mjg59cjwatson: You got a work PS3?04:21
mjg59Man. I don't get the cool hardware any more.04:21
cjwatsonit's less cool when you don't have an HDTV04:23
cjwatsonand have to hook it up to vlc in tiny-resolution mode ;)04:24
kylemhehe04:24
mjg59You need a work HDTV04:27
cjwatsonI do04:28
kylemme too? :P04:28
kylemthough i'd rather a 30" dell kthnxbye04:28
kylem:)04:28
cjwatson-15.25/i386 up and on all archive.ubuntu.com mirrors04:43
kylemcjwatson, thanks so much.04:46
cjwatsonhey, you guys did the real work ...04:47
mjg59You're the one awake at 3AM04:47
cjwatsonnow it's just language packs and hotkey-setup and then I can build livefses04:47
cjwatsonwhen I've kicked that off I'll almost certainly crash04:47
cjwatsonwon't take all that much longer with three buildds munching on it04:48
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defendguinmjg59: i think that last kernel update today fixed my issue05:12
mjg59defendguin: Excellent05:12
mjg59It /should/ fix all of them05:12
defendguini thought yesterday's update was the one with the patch?05:13
defendguinmjg59: did something change in hal that made the original update not work properly?05:16
mjg59No05:18
mjg59But the first upload yesterday may have been missing that line05:18
defendguinheh05:18
defendguini remember reading the changes in the update manager and seeing the patch was in.  needless to say i was disappointed when the card didn't work05:20
cjwatsonhttp://librarian.launchpad.net/7325843/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-ia64.linux-source-2.6.20_2.6.20-15.25_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz05:21
cjwatsonargh!05:21
cjwatson-15.24 is there05:23
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cjwatson-14 kernels removed05:24
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defendguini think you guys cleared up all the issues i had with this laptop being supported under linux this cycle05:40
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cjwatsonBenC: 04:21 <cjwatson> http://librarian.launchpad.net/7325843/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-ia64.linux-source-2.6.20_2.6.20-15.25_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz05:42
cjwatsonBenC: I propose to ignore that for release, but FYI05:42
cjwatsonlooks like the ABI-ignore hack failed05:42
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BenCcjwatson: Yeah, I mentioned earlier, it's fixed in git now that I have the ABIs from -15.2406:27
BenCfix it first update06:27
fabbioneBenC, cjwatson it will still make ia64 uninstallable because of the ABI change in d-i06:38
fabbionewould be much easier to keep it in sync06:38
fabbioneoh actually ABI is the same06:39
fabbionejust version06:39
fabbionehmm06:39
fabbioneyeah06:39
fabbionecan work06:39
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orangeyhey all!07:02
orangeyI'm trying to figure out a bug that appears to be a regression in the kernel.07:04
orangeythe sound on this NC6230 used to work after suspend, but stopped working around the -13 mark?07:05
orangeyHowever, I'm honestly not even sure a) if it was intentional that the bug was fixed; or b) how to track down which kernel module broke it.07:06
crimsunorangey: boot into the kernel with working suspend; check out upstream hg alsa-{driver,kernel}; execute hgcompile from alsa-driver; install it; confirm that it's still working with current upstream alsa07:11
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orangeycrimsun: stupidly, I wiped the old kernel ; ) I'll remake it and go from there. Thank you.07:12
defendguinthe hotkey-setup update that got released does it include those bugs mjg59 fixed the other night?07:12
orangeycrimsun: what do you mean by hg alsa-driver ?07:12
defendguini remember BenC said they could be included 07:13
defendguinorangey: do you know how i can view the changelog of the hotkey-setup update?07:16
crimsundefendguin: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/feisty-changes/2007-April/008524.html07:16
crimsundefendguin: also, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/feisty-changes/2007-April/008483.html07:16
defendguinperfect07:17
defendguini just wanted to make sure i didn't screw it up with the update :-)07:18
crimsunorangey: what's unclear?07:18
crimsunorangey: also, this discussion is veering into support instead of development. Contact me in #ubuntu+1 if you have further questions.07:18
defendguinthanks crimsun07:18
orangeycrimsun: pretty much the whole workflow. upstream hg alsa-driver ? I'm actually not sure what that is, other than that possibly I should get the deb from debian unstable and install it or some such..07:22
orangeycrimsun: I'm on +1 now.07:23
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Mithrandirzul: have you gotten a new packages exception for openvz?08:40
kylemheh, it's 3am for him.08:41
Mithrandirsleep is for the weak08:41
joejaxx:P08:41
kylemweak from exhaustion, yes.08:41
joejaxxso openvz is going to be in the archive?08:42
joejaxxor might*08:42
Mithrandirjoejaxx: I didn't say that.08:42
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_ionbenc: linux-source-.../debian/firmware/ipw2200/LICENSE says "Your rights to redistribute the Software shall be contingent upon your installation of this Agreement in its entirety in the same directory as the Software". Should the license be installed to /lib/firmware/...?09:33
_ionAlso, considering the limitations the license seems to put to the redistribution of the firmware, would restricted be a better place for it? I might be wrong, i didn't read the license carefully.09:38
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affluxI installed the kernelupdated to 2.6.20-14.23 yesterday, which broke my system (something with ata)... but I removed the older kernels that were still installed for cleaning up.12:08
affluxnow i'm in a livecd12:08
affluxchrooted into feisty and updated to -15.2512:08
affluxand I still have the same ata error (revalidation failed, n_sectors mismatch)12:08
bdgrauesame here updated and now   http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/9217/12:10
affluxanother confirmation here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106063/comments/8012:11
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bdgraueif someone need more specific, please ask---12:23
henoI expect the kernel devs are still asleep, but please hang around until they return12:26
henoBenC, kylem, mjg59: ^ still problems with 15.25 it seems12:27
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cjwatsonbdgraue: could you try putting libata.ignore_hpa=0 on the kernel command line, please?12:44
cjwatsonafflux: you too12:45
affluxgoing to have a try, will be back in about 10-20 minutes12:47
bdgrauecjwatson: ok, i'll try, moment please12:49
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cjwatsonif that works, dmesg and lspci -vvnn would be greatly appreciated12:50
cjwatsonpossibly a new bug each to avoid confusion12:50
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cjwatsonhttp://librarian.launchpad.net/7329378/00001.jpg is interesting, definitely suggests libata.ignore_hpa=0 should work, but seems to be applying the wrong hpa_sectors size12:51
affluxdoesn't work for me12:53
affluxgoing to have a shower, will be back in 20 mins12:54
cjwatsona photo of the error would be good12:54
bdgrauecjwatson: doesn't work for me too12:54
cjwatsonjust to be clear, http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/9217/ is just a consequence, not the real error12:55
cjwatsonwe need the sort of ata debugging messages you see in http://librarian.launchpad.net/7329378/00001.jpg12:55
cjwatsonmight have to boot without 'quiet' on the kernel command line to get that12:55
cjwatsonprobably without 'splash' too12:55
ivoks_could 'debug' help?12:56
cjwatsonno12:56
cjwatsonlooks like the module parameter stuff isn't working right :-/12:56
cjwatsonlspci -vvnn from a live CD might help12:58
bdgrauecjwatson: i'll give u the photo 12:58
bdgrauegimme some time please :-)12:58
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cjwatsonkylem: why don't the ata_set_native_max_address* functions set ATA_TFLAG_LBA?01:00
cjwatson(not sure if that's relevant though)01:00
affluxcjwatson: http://phpfi.com/22665801:11
affluxcjwatson: will make a photo later01:11
bdgrauecjwatson: lspci -wnn give me an   lspci: invalid option --  w01:14
affluxbdgraue: twice a v, not a w please01:15
cjwatsonlspci -vvnn01:15
cjwatsonok, afflux is using sata_nv01:15
bdgrauecjwatson: http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/5466/pict0002cs9.jpg  there is the photo01:15
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=== cjwatson has to go out now; if you could hang around until actual kernel developers show up, that'd be good
affluxi'll leave in 30 mins too...01:16
mrechi, I'm really curious I upgraded my notebook to ubuntu, also recompiled the kernel but it's not possible to start Xgl the whole screen just starts to flicker around ... so I guess the livecd includes some specials for that device?01:17
cjwatsonbdgraue: hmm, there don't appear to be any of the hpa handling messages I was expecting; that just looks like normal boot01:19
cjwatsonpossibly you have enough disks that it scrolls off01:19
bdgrauecjwatson: so whats then the problem?01:20
bdgrauecjwatson: the cdrom-drives are ide01:21
bdgrauecjwatson:  http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/9222/   hte lspci -vvnn01:23
mrecis there any documentation about the ubuntu i855gm setup available? for any reason I suspect that some intel engineers did some specials there01:24
cjwatsonbdgraue: like I say, I'm not a kernel developer, I'm just trying to gather as much information as possible01:25
cjwatsonthe problem for afflux is that the HPA suppression logic appears to be setting the drive size to the wrong value on NVIDIA ATA chipsets01:26
bdgrauei hope my informations could help to solve the problem01:26
cjwatsonit's not entirely clear that yours is the same problem, although you're also using NVIDIA01:26
cjwatsonhaven't heard any concrete non-NVIDIA reports yet01:26
bdgrauecjwatson: an other photo is here:  http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0004gr3.jpg01:28
cjwatsonkylem: converting the sector counts to hex in http://librarian.launchpad.net/7329378/00001.jpg is very interesting01:28
cjwatsonkylem: it's 0x0D00000E instead of 0x0DF94BB0, and 0x2E00002F instead of 0x2E9390B001:28
cjwatsonseems like an obvious pattern01:29
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mjg59mrec: No, we don't have any special 855 code01:31
cjwatsonbdgraue: thanks, that's more useful01:32
cjwatsonthat's exhibiting the same pattern of corruption01:33
mrecI see, I booted from the CD and started the local X, I have the same effects01:33
cjwatson0x1D1C5970 -> 0x1D00001E01:33
mrecseems like the upgrade wasn't clean01:33
cjwatsonlooks like sata_nv is very consistently buggering the sector count01:33
cjwatsonbdgraue: could you try booting with sata_nv.adma=0 on the kernel command line?01:35
bdgrauei can01:35
bdgrauemom please01:35
bdgrauecjwatson: don't work01:38
cjwatsonhmm, what exactly was your kernel command line?01:39
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bdgrauemom01:39
cjwatsonand could you take photos of the output with hpa messages in it again? I'd like to confirm that it's the same problem01:39
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mrecok I manually removed the xorg directories and reinstalled them, now it seems to work01:40
bdgrauecjwatson:  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=01b05012-0b6d-4ac6-8c72-cb146fd64f9f ro locale=de_DE sata_nv.adma=001:42
mjg59cjwatson: sata_nv and libata are modules - do we have sensible code in initramfs-tools to deal with that? (I remember it being wishlist, I don't remember whether we did or not)01:44
bdgrauecjwatson: http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0007ro7.jpg01:50
mjg59That's very weird.01:51
Nafallowith -15 everything is sd?. thanks :-)01:53
mjg59cjwatson: Exactly the same pattern with bdgraue's drive01:59
mjg59Something's squashing most of the bits02:00
bdgrauei wish i had an older kernel left on the sys  :-(02:01
mjg59(Oh, sorry, you'd already commented on that)02:02
bdgraue:-)02:02
Mithrandirah02:13
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cjwatsonmjg59: initramfs-tools> I'm not sure02:15
cjwatsonbdgraue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/2.6.20-14.22 - "Builds of" drop-down in the top-left, you can get old packages from that02:17
cjwatsonmjg59: can you tell whether it's sata_nv or pata_amd in use? I couldn't quite tell02:19
cjwatsonI think it's sata_nv in bdgraue's case at least02:21
cjwatsonBenC: could you push the various -15 git branches?02:21
cjwatsonmjg59: I don't quite know how module options work. What would initramfs-tools need to do?02:24
cjwatsonmjg59: the way that the top three bytes are being consistently copied to the bottom three bytes (kernel code then adds one to it) is particularly suspicious02:26
cjwatsonI'm assuming it's LBA48 since at least some of the sizes in question exceed 28 bits02:27
Mithrandirit says "lba48" in the screenshot too02:28
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Mithrandirshouldn't there be a 0x0f masking in the set_native_max_address_ext?  That bit looks suspicious.02:33
cjwatsonMithrandir: where?02:33
Mithrandirlibata-core.c02:33
cjwatsonno I mean where 0x0f02:33
Mithrandirtf.lbah = new_sectors, etc02:33
MithrandirI thought lbah would only get four of the bits set there?02:34
Mithrandiror is lba48 sane?02:34
cjwatsonMithrandir: the reason set_native_max_address has a 0x0f mask is because it's the top 4 bits of the LBA2802:34
cjwatsonbut LBA48 divides exactly by 802:34
Mithrandirok, false alarm then.02:34
cjwatsonI still very strongly suspect adma here02:34
cjwatsonquite tempted to build a kernel with adma disabled02:35
cjwatsonin fact, yeah, why don't I kick that off on ronne02:35
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Mithrandirtry that, then?  You have the ccache from yesterday, so it should be fast enough?02:35
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cjwatsonI'm not sure it was ccached unfortunately02:35
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cjwatsonone build shouldn't take all that long even from scratch though02:36
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bdgrauecjwatson: hoe can i get the old kernel in the chrooted system?02:40
bdgrauehow02:40
cjwatsonget => download or get => install?02:41
bdgrauedownload and install with dpkg or something else or install via apt if possible, cjwatson02:42
cjwatsonfind URL, use wget to fetch it, dpkg -i02:44
bdgraueok, thx02:45
cjwatsonbdgraue: would you be able to help out with testing unofficial fixes at some later point?02:47
mrechmm I noticed that ubuntu feisty doesn't support the highest resolution on my notebook, how about trying to detect the notebook and patching the bios to get it work?02:47
bdgrauecjwatson: if i have time, yes02:48
mrec(I tested it with the temporary biospatch, and it seems to work fine.. and it looks way better)02:48
bdgrauei would be an honor to help02:48
cjwatsonI'm still trying to figure out what the hell's going on, and I'm planning to be out this afternoon02:49
cjwatsonkylem may stand a better chance once he wakes up02:49
bdgraue3 ours from now i have to go... then i have no more time :-(02:51
bdgrauethen only tomorrow02:51
bdgrauecjwatson: do i have to install some of the modules too, or only image and headers?02:56
bdgrauefrom the older kernel...02:57
cjwatsonbdgraue: just the image, and you may need to go and hunt down a matching linux-restricted-modules too if you rely on non-free video drivers or whatever03:02
bdgrauehunt down a matching linux-restricted-modules?03:04
bdgrauecjwatson: what does that mean, i have to find one, somewhere?03:05
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bdgraue_cjwatson: thx, i have the old 2.6.20-14.22 running03:38
kylemcjwatson, test kernel building03:42
cjwatsonkylem: cool, what are you trying?03:58
kylemcjwatson, what you pointed out above (setting TFLAG_LBA)03:59
cjwatsonok03:59
cjwatsonI've got a build running that turns off adma03:59
cjwatson(in sata_nv)03:59
kylemwe're still seeing issues there?03:59
kylemthe only bug i saw in my mbox in this dumping was the dude lying about running 15.25 :/04:00
cjwatsonkylem: yes, consistently with sata_nv04:00
kylembug#?04:00
cjwatsonsomething is blatting the high-order-bytes of the LBA48 over the top of the low-order three bytes04:00
cjwatsoner dunno about a bug number, but see e.g. http://librarian.launchpad.net/7329378/00001.jpg04:01
kylemok.04:01
cjwatsonit's all in scrollback here04:01
cjwatsonthere was another example as well - in both cases LBA48 0000AABBCCDD was transformed into 0000AA0000AA (+1)04:02
cjwatsonin the middle of ata_exec_internal so presumably by the driver04:03
kylemhm, ok.04:03
cjwatsonI've only heard of it with nv so far04:03
cjwatsonbut I'm not fully up to date on bugs04:04
kylemergh.04:06
cjwatsonI also think module options passed on the kernel command line just plain don't work in feisty04:08
cjwatsondamnit, my build failed for no obvious reason04:17
cjwatson+ xargs strip --strip-debug04:17
cjwatsonmake[1] : *** [install/linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic]  Error 104:17
cjwatson+ xargs strip --strip-debug04:17
cjwatsonmake[1] : *** [install/linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic]  Error 104:17
cjwatson(sorry for dup)04:17
cjwatsonok, screw this, I'm going out. call me if it's urgent04:17
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BenCkylem: do we have an issue with -15.25?05:28
BenCstill reading scrollback05:28
kylemlooks like it05:30
kylemand it looks like libata.ignore_hpa isn't making it to the module in some cases.05:31
BenChow does the kernel handle cmdline opts to modules?05:31
kylemno clue. it didn't change.05:32
BenCI thought module.XXX would only work for built in modules05:32
Mithrandirthat was fixed in 2.6, AIUI.05:32
kylemi thought the modprobe handled it by inspecting /proc/cmdline05:32
Mithrandirat least I remember rlove and rusty claiming so at LCA 2004 during the kernel hacking tutorial.05:33
BenCModule parameters for modules that are built into the kernel image05:33
BenCare specified on the kernel command line with the module name plus05:33
BenC'.' plus parameter name, with '=' and value if appropriate, such as:05:33
BenCI don't think cmdline for actual modules is supported05:34
BenCIt used to be you couldn't pass options to built-in modules, and that's probably what they fixed05:34
kylemthere's more than two ways you can do it, i have no idea how universally stupid it is if they haven't implemented it.05:35
BenCkylem: so what's the extent of this bug?05:35
kylemBenC, some controllers (nv apparently?) are reporting bogus sizes back from ata_set_max_address{,_ext}05:36
BenCwhat's with these 1Meg HPAs05:37
kylemappears to be fairly common on sata disks.05:38
BenCit's weird, the size shows in "native size increased" is not the same size as the one read in ata_hpa_resize05:39
BenCwhich means it's not the one set in n_sectors_boot05:39
kylemthe native sized increased size is the one returned value read out of the taskfile05:39
BenCwhatever size it was increased to is the one we need to put in n_sectors_boot05:40
BenCthen we need to use that value to store the n_sectors_boot05:40
BenCerr, I mean the n_sectors05:40
kylemnot until we figure out why it's all friggity fucked.05:40
BenCNot sure why we are getting a different result than what we ask for05:41
BenCkylem: maybe we should fail to change n_sectors if the results for the set isn't what we asked for?05:41
kylemcolin pointed out that the code wasn't setting ATA_TFLAG_LBA05:42
kylemin set_max05:42
BenCI thought you said that was ok because of 0x40?05:42
kylemi know.05:42
BenCworth a try I guess05:42
BenCI wish I had a drive with HPA to test this better05:43
kylemmy guess is that some of the taskfile dispatch paths are setting it, and some aren't depending on the value in that field05:43
kylemwhich is why it works fine on so many systems05:43
BenCwell the set obvious works...the n_sectors mismatch shows that ata_id_n_sectors() is returning the value of the size we did in set05:45
kylemyeah.05:45
BenCkylem: Is it ever possible that if our set succeeds we should get a different value that what we asked it to set?05:50
BenCor I mean, should it be possible05:50
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BenCcan we assume that since the set succeeds, and from these reports we can see that it succeeds, could we just set n_sectors to the value we set instead of relying on this return value?05:51
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Mithrandirew05:52
BenCassuming this TFLAG_LBA doesn't work05:52
Mithrandirthat sounds risky.05:52
kylemi don't think so, perhaps we should set it to the value in ata_id_n_sectors afterwards05:52
BenCkylem: Does that get updated immediately?05:52
kylemaside from setting the max sectors limit, that's all that really changes05:52
kylemyes05:52
BenCthen that might be best05:52
BenCthe only thing we've seen not to be reliable so far is the return value from the set call...it seems we can definitely rely on everything else05:53
kylemyeah, the 0x40 definitely is the bit needing set unless some deeper bit is unsetting it based on the value of tf->flags05:53
BenCI don't like it, but it may be the way to go, if we can't find the problem with the return value of set05:53
kylemoh.05:54
kylemwe have to re-identify the drive of course.05:54
kylemsince the id is cached.05:54
kylemthat's why we used the return value.05:54
BenCthat's what I thought....else the whole n_sectors_boot thing is pretty bogus :)06:03
BenCwhat's the call to id the drive?06:04
kylem                rc = ata_dev_read_id(dev, &dev->class, ATA_READID_POSTRESET,06:06
kylem                                     dev->id);06:06
kylembuilds almost done (concurrently for i386 and amd64)06:16
BenCDo we have testers?06:16
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trejackI was told to check in here if I was having problems with the 2.6.20-15 kernel06:30
BenConly if it's -15.2506:31
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trejackIt is06:31
lazkame2..06:31
BenCcat /proc/version_signature06:31
BenCor dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic06:31
sertmannheya, just responding to a call for sata_nv users with 2.6.20-15 kernel problems come here06:32
trejackii  linux-image-2. 2.6.20-15.25   Linux kernel image for version 2.6.20 on x8606:32
kylemamd64 or i386?06:33
BenCwhat's the problems you are having?06:33
sertmannamd6406:33
trejackHaven't been able to boot since upgrade from -13 to -1406:33
sertmannditto06:33
BenCdo you have screenshots of the problems so we can make sure it is the same thing?06:33
sertmannwell, i can boot into the -13 kernel still06:33
BenCor maybe gain more info?06:33
henosertmann: do you have the latest -15.25?06:34
trejackGet ata2.00:qc timeout(cmd0xef)06:34
BenCtrejack: is this macbook?06:34
sertmannthe latest one available from apt anyway06:34
trejackThen ata 2.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4)06:34
lazkado you guys need anyone with "failed to set xfermode"? no nv_whatever here :P06:34
trejackNo its ASUS P5NSLI06:34
BenCsertmann: please make sure it is -15.25, so we don't waste time on a bug that may already be fixed06:34
trejackFinally get to busybox shell06:35
sertmannBenC: that's what it says menu.lst anyway06:35
trejacksda and sdb are listed in /dev06:35
trejackbut not sda1,sda2,etc06:35
BenCsertmann: menu.lst shows -15, it doesn't say it's -15.24 or -15.2506:35
BenCsertmann: please check, it's very important06:36
sertmanntranscribed this from recovery mode: from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106063/comments/8806:36
sertmann/boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic06:36
sertmannhow do i check the exact version?06:36
BenCsertmann: I gave you two commands already :/06:36
BenCsertmann: dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic06:36
trejackmy drives are ide, not SATA, but motherboard does have SATA controllers.06:38
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sertmannBenC: from that output it does look installed, it lists it anyway06:39
BenCsertmann: can you paste it please06:39
BenCsertmann: I need to see the version, not whether it is installed or not06:39
sertmannDesired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold06:39
sertmann| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed06:39
sertmann|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)06:39
sertmann||/ Name           Version        Description06:39
sertmann+++-==============-==============-============================================06:39
sertmannii  linux-image-2. 2.6.20-15.25   Linux kernel image for version 2.6.20 on x06:39
BenCok, that's the info we needed06:40
BenCthanks, so you have the latest and are still having problems06:40
sertmannyes06:40
trejackyes06:40
BenCcan you guys pastebin dmesg from the last kernel that worked for you06:41
BenCand also your lspci -vvn output06:41
kylemhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~kyle/kernels/feisty/linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic_2.6.20-15.25_amd64.deb06:41
BenCthat's for anyone having "mismatch" messages in your dmesg06:42
BenCplease test kyle's images06:42
trejackhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106418 has it the dmesg, hang on while I do lspci06:42
henosertmann: see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/06:42
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BenCtrejack: please test kyle's kernel image(s)06:44
sertmannhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15606/06:44
felip1i have a sata_nv controller in this box, but it's not used, and my ide hd are being seen as sd*06:44
BenCfelip1: then you don't have a bug06:45
felip1ok BenC :)06:45
NafalloI wish I had a SATA so I could help debugging :-)06:45
felip1except my feisty isn't booting06:45
trejackhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15607/ for my lspci06:45
sertmannbah, lspci output is to long for the terminal06:46
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sertmannshould i just paste the lines i do get?06:46
BenCfelip1: then let's get down to the real bug06:46
felip1BenC: do you already know of any issues with edgy->feisty and non-sata hd? 06:46
BenCfelip1: if your drives show up, why aren't they mounting06:46
trejackBenC: I'm not using amd64, try it anyway?06:46
henosertmann: send it to a text file with > output.txt06:46
kylemtrejack, no06:47
BenCfelip1: does your root= in /boot/grub/menu.lst shows /dev/... or UUID=...?06:47
kylemhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~kyle/kernels/feisty/linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic_2.6.20-15.25_i386.deb06:47
BenCtrejack: No, use the one kyle just pasted06:47
felip1BenC: UUID06:47
kylemtrejack, ^-- i386 image is there06:47
trejackOK - I'll report back06:47
BenCfelip1: does your /etc/fstab reference any /dev/hdX devices?06:47
felip1uhm good point, i guess so... let me check ;)06:48
BenCfelip1: they should use UUID= as well06:48
felip1yes theys are06:48
BenCsertmann: lspci -vvn > lspci.txt, and post that06:48
sertmanngot it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15608/06:48
mdzBenC: how are we doing?06:50
BenCsertmann: Please try kyle's images06:50
mdzI've just had to spend the past several hours buying a new laptop because mine has quit06:50
felip1BenC: they use UUID in fact06:50
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BenCfelip1: Boot to recovery mode and see if you can get a digital photo of the final screen06:50
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felip1BenC: ok 06:51
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Nafallomdz: white smoke and blue flames? :-)06:51
Nafallomine did, was kind of scary :-P06:52
sertmannok; downloading now06:52
mdzno, the display is failing06:52
Nafalloouch06:53
BenCmdz: we are chasing more sata_nv bugs :/06:53
BenCmdz: I'm almost to the point of saying that sata_nv just doesn't get hpa resize rights06:54
kylemheh, it's *not* the driver06:54
kylemthat's not how these things work...06:54
BenCit's the controller that is giving us bogus info during hpa workaround06:54
BenCkylem: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/libata.diff06:55
BenCthat's my initial patch for updating id and using it to get the set size06:55
BenCI actually like it better than what we have now because it detects these sorts of problems and reports them and continues along happily06:55
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trejackkyle's kernel gave me same problems06:56
kylemtrejack, are you booted into the machine now?06:56
BenCin these cases it will either ignore hpa, or will resort to the original sectors06:56
trejackPackage installer said I already had same version installed, but I installed it anyway06:56
BenCI'll do some builds with this patch06:56
kylemtrejack, edit /etc/modprobe.d/options and append the line "options sata_nv adma=0"06:56
BenCtrejack: the installer was right, but that's not what matters06:57
kylemtrejack, and try again please.06:57
trejackYes, booted int -1306:57
kylemtrejack, is your disk sata or pata btw?06:57
trejackpata06:57
kylemalright.06:57
trejackI'll try the modprobe thing and report back06:58
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BenCkylem: you forgot to tell him to run update-initramfs :)06:59
kylemdoh.06:59
Nafallohaha07:00
NafalloBenC: you just had to wait until he rebooted ;-)07:00
Nafalloaha. sata_nv and pata_amd :-)07:01
Nafallothat explain things :-)07:01
BenCBTW, anyone here helping to track down these problems, we really appreciate your time07:01
BenCif we sound short, or aggrevated, it's only because we've been chasing problems for 3 days now, and we're delaying RC/release because of them07:02
BenCwell RC for sure, don't know about release07:02
kylempretty much 3 straight days... there's not been much sleep. :P07:02
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Nafallokylem, BenC: you guys rock! :-)07:03
sertmannKylem's kernel didn't work for me either..07:03
BenCok, hold up for a few minutes, I have a kernel building to test07:04
kylemsertmann, you're also sata_nv? i forgot to tell you to update-initramfs :/07:04
sertmannyeah, im on sata_nv07:04
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sertmannupdate-initramfs -k ?07:05
sertmannor what option?07:05
Nafallo-k 2.6.20-15 -u07:05
Nafalloright?07:05
sertmannyeah...07:05
sertmannso ill try that and reboot07:06
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sertmannCannot find /lib/modules/2.6.20-15 <-- eh?07:07
BenCsudo update-initramfs -u07:07
BenCthat'll do it07:07
trejackStill same after editing modprobe.d/options07:07
kylemtrejack, sorry, forgot to tell you to sudo update-initramfs -u07:07
BenCtrejack: try "options libata ignore_hpa=0"07:07
kylemso it didn't take effect07:07
BenCoh, and that :)07:08
trejackremoved added line now07:08
BenCtrejack: no no, do the adma line, but run update-initramfs -u then reboot07:08
trejackwhere to I put the options libata ignore_hpa ?  In the same options file (someone suggested I do this earlier, & I couldn't figure it out...)07:09
BenCtrejack: try that after just adma07:09
BenCone at a time so we know which one works07:09
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trejackOK, give me the adma line again, I deleted it.07:09
trejackI'll do it first, then the libata07:10
BenCoptions sata_nv adma=007:10
BenCThen sudo update-initramfs -u07:10
BenCthen reboot07:10
trejackgot it. thanks07:11
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sertmannback, that didn't do it either :-/07:12
sertmannso let me know when the new build is done :)07:12
BenCshould be 20-30 minutes, so if you have a southpark episode to catch up on, now's a good time :)07:13
MithrandirBenC: if you want me to build anything, I have machines which are a) bored and b) eight-core amd64.07:13
Nafallohehe07:14
kylemtell elmo to buy a few of those...07:14
BenCMithrandir: I'm doing the builds on 2xquad-core right now with ccache, so it should be quick07:14
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Mithrandiryes, they have primed ccaches too. :-P07:14
macdunf. unf.07:14
BenCMithrandir: ah, ok, I'll keep that in mind :)07:15
Mithrandirbut your machine appears to be of the same class, so I'll leave it to you fttb.07:15
BenCI need to add linux-debug and linux-headers to the list of things not to build when NOEXTRAS=107:16
Mithrandiryes, for gutsy. :-)07:16
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Nafallohehe07:17
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kylemMithrandir, wuss. ;-P07:17
NafalloI'm still trying to get used to my new world the next six months ;-)07:17
sertmannbtw, out of curiosity, why am i having issues with a SATA controller drivers, when I'm on a ATA disk? 07:17
john_brown_jrHi guys, i'm still having problems with 15.25 kernel - it spits out something about ata sectors mismatch. Is there anything I can do to help you to debug?07:18
kylembecause clearly i was a bad man in a past life.07:18
BenCjohn_brown_jr: stick around, there's a new kernel building for testing07:19
john_brown_jrokey07:19
BenCkylem: a past life?07:19
kylemBenC, this is a bad bear07:19
BenCok, this is a good bear07:19
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BenClol07:20
defendguinbear?07:20
kyleminside joke from our allhands meeting this year07:20
BenCdefendguin: your sanity depends on you not pursuing this further07:20
kylems/this/last/07:20
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defendguinlol07:20
defendguinyou guys all done bug fixing for this release?07:21
BenCunfortunately, no07:21
kylemmostly it's regressions now.07:21
kylem           ^- severe07:21
BenCI think this patch will work around them nicely, let's just hope it doesn't introduce new ones07:21
BenCwonder if pitti and dholbach are around07:22
kylemthis HPA shit is fucking tetchy.07:22
defendguinbummer07:22
kylemit took me a long time to get it to work properly.07:22
defendguinanyone else here having problems returning from suspend?07:23
defendguinat some between now and herd 3's release my touchpad stopped working when returing from suspend07:24
defendguins/returing/returning 07:25
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capiirahi07:27
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trejackStill nothing07:31
dorathHello, I saw a post from Henrik on ubuntuforums asking people who had problems with 2.6.20-15 to come here.  I've had such problems.07:32
BenCtrejack: the ignore_hpa=0 didn't work for you?07:32
trejackI tried sata_nv adma=0, then update-initramfs07:32
BenCtrejack: just hang a second till I get this test kernel built07:32
BenCtrejack: you can remove that line now07:32
trejackthen libata ignore_hpa=0, then update-initramfs07:32
kylemyou included the "options " part too, right?07:33
trejackyes07:33
trejacksorry bout the shorthand07:33
kylemok.07:33
trejackshould I remove the sata line also?07:33
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capiirahmm do i need to do something special to compile the kernels that comes with diff.gz extra? the orig one get auto patched but i always get a build make error on final07:34
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defendguinhehe i guess i'll drop my current problem for the time being :-P07:35
BenCcapiira: right now we are working on some serious issues with the kernel, please take general questions like that to #ubuntu07:35
mdzBenC: does someone on staff have access to sata_nv hardware?07:35
BenCmdz: Kyle and I both07:35
mdzoh, good07:35
capiiraok :) no problem07:35
BenCbut neither of us has an HPA drive07:35
kylemneither do these people07:35
mdzwell07:35
kylem(some of these)07:35
BenCsome of them do, they have a 1Meg HPA :)07:35
mdzas it happens, I just bought this new laptop, and I bet it has one07:36
mdzbut I don't think that helps07:36
kylemBenC, do you have a pata disk you could toss onto the pata_amd controller?07:36
kylemi don't appear to have *any* ide disks left alive :/07:36
BenCmdz: if it has an hpa then you may have inadvertently volunteered for testing :)07:36
mdzthe vmware server here use sata_nv07:36
mdzBenC: I don't think I have the necessary hardware to plug the laptop HDD into the sata_nv box though07:36
BenCah, I thought you meant the laptop had sata_nv07:37
mdzlaptop has HPA, server has sata_nv07:37
BenCkylem: I have a 20G drive on my pata_amd already :/07:37
BenCand it works just fine07:37
BenCit's my rootfs...the 300G sata is a data partition07:37
kylemok.07:37
kylemgood datapoint then.07:37
mdzis there anything I can do to assist with tracking down the problem?07:38
BenCbuilds almost done07:38
BenCmdz: Test boot the kernels when I get them done07:38
BenCmdz: we have about half a dozen people in here that are having the problem, but it'd be nice to know we don't regress anything too07:39
mdzthis box is running Dapper, but I guess I can swap the kernel onto a live cd07:39
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kylemBenC, it's worth mentioning that drivers/ide just slurps the return value out of the taskfile.07:39
BenCkylem: yeah, I've seen that...07:40
BenCkylem: My patch doesn't ignore the return value, it just uses it to sanity check with what we wanted, what it returned and what the value is after re-id07:40
kylemyeah.07:41
kylemmaybe we should just revert to drivers/ide and let fedora deal with this in two months...07:41
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Nafallojoy.07:43
Nafallokernel just crasched.07:43
Nafallohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15625/07:43
mdzNafallo: you're using ipv6?07:44
BenC571f6b2b29d01c3572d43a8058af1e9f  linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic_2.6.20-15.25_amd64.deb07:44
BenCb9c8608567b386aecb4e94378da244c4  linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic_2.6.20-15.25_i386.deb07:44
Nafallomdz: yes07:44
BenChttp://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels/feisty-release/07:45
BenCEveryone please try those kernels07:45
mdzBenC: are you sure those are  finished uploading?07:45
NafalloBenC: for my bug to? :-)07:46
BenCif it succeeds, pastebin dmesg so we can sanity check, please07:46
BenCmdz: yes07:46
BenCwait no, i386 still uploading07:46
mdzit was only 9M when I downloaded it, and different md5sum07:46
BenC40 seconds till complete, sorry07:46
_ionYou can wget already, just use -c and rerun it when it finishes. :-)07:46
BenCdone07:47
BenCplease remember to boot WITHOUT quiet and splash on the kernel command line07:48
BenCso if it fails you can get an immediate look at why07:48
trejackdownloading now07:49
sertmannany commands I/We need to do after/before installing this?07:49
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BenCsertmann: just dpkg -i, and reboot07:49
sertmannoki07:49
BenCremove _any_ modprobe.d options you've added before dpkg -i07:49
BenCso we get a clean test07:49
_ionbenc: I don't have anything sata_nv or HPA and the current kernel in feisty works correctly. Should i test the kernel, too?07:50
sertmannsorry, i hate to be useless, but i've no clue as how to that :/07:50
BenC_ion: yes please, so we get regression testing07:50
_ionbenc: Alright.07:50
kylem_ion, yes, we don't ... what ben said07:50
BenCsertmann: how to do what?07:50
mdzBenC: what's changed relative to current feisty? just sata_nv? or does this need regression testing on other hardware as well?07:50
sertmannBenC: remove _any_ modprobe.d options you've added07:50
BenCmdz: I added some sanity checks in ata_hpa_resize() so it's all devices07:50
mdzok07:51
mdzI'm doing an install on the new laptop and will test once that's done07:51
BenCsertmann: did you add any options to /etc/modprobe.d/? If not, ignore that part07:51
BenCmdz: thanks07:51
sertmannok:)07:51
_ionbenc: Did you see the question about the ipw2200 firmware, btw?07:52
macdBenC, http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels/feisty-release/linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic_2.6.20-15.25_i386.deb  works fine on sata_vs nvidia nforce2 chipset FYI.07:52
macdsata_nv*07:52
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BenCmacd: did you have a problem prior to that?07:52
macdyes, 2 days ago.07:53
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BenCmacd: does the -15.25 in the archive work for you?07:53
macdI think that box is on its last leg, but I can grab the last kern.log and dmesg's from each boot07:53
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macdI can't get the one from the repos, I'm still getting a 403, the proxy here is horrible with expiry07:54
macdso Im not even getting an apt-get update properly atm.07:54
kylemBenC, appears to work here.07:55
BenCmacd: Ok, thanks for the report, but if you could verify (when possible) that the -15.25 in the archive does or doesn't work for you, I'd appreciate it07:55
macdBenC, sure, you want me to leave that on LP?07:55
macd^if your not around07:55
BenCmacd: just ping kyle or myself here07:55
macdk.07:55
BenCAnyone else getting ready to test this, please tell me if -15.25 in the archive worked or didn't work for you when posting about the -15.25 I have built07:56
macdIs the kernel in the repos on the daily iso build?07:57
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BenCmacd: should be07:57
BenCcheck the date, if it's older than 12 hours, probably not07:57
Mithrandirmacd: it is, yes.07:57
Mithrandiron the 20070414 isos07:57
macdyeah I just peeped it, thx.07:58
macdI think all my domU's use sata_nv07:58
FelipeLerenahi, I have the sata_nv problem. can anybody help me?07:58
BenCFelipeLerena: topic07:59
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FelipeLerenaBenC: oh, i'm really sorry. Didn't see it.08:00
ahirreddyJust installed the -15.25 kernel up from -12. I have sata_nv, and nforce 400 chip set 08:00
BenCahirreddy: topic08:00
ahirreddyI can't boot up08:01
ahirreddyWhat is the latest stable kernel i can use08:01
BenCahirreddy: can you boot to an older kernel?08:01
ahirreddyyes08:01
BenCahirreddy: use the kernel in the topic08:01
ahirreddywhat would that be?08:01
BenCthe one marked "Test kernel" right after describing the sata_nv problems08:01
ahirreddyyou mean boot in to -15.2508:01
ahirreddythanks08:01
ahirreddyi'll do that and be back08:01
BenCI mean boot the kernel you download from the URL in the topic08:01
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ahirreddyis it available in generic08:02
_ionbenc: Seems to work fine, http://johan.kiviniemi.name/tmp/dmesg.2.6.20-15-generic08:02
ahirreddyI have an x2 and need smp08:02
BenCahirreddy: going to the link will review answers to your questions08:03
BenCs/review/reveal/08:03
BenC_ion: but you didn't have a problem before, right?08:03
BenC_ion: so it just doesn't break anything new?08:03
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_ionbenc: Nope, had no problem at all earlier.08:03
BenC_ion: ok, thanks08:03
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BenCsertmann: success, failure?08:03
sertmannnot working for me08:03
BenCsertmann: screen shot?08:03
trejackStill no luck here, but different error messages at the end this time - see the pic uploaded at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/10641808:04
BenCsertmann: or at least copy the output you see08:04
sertmanntook one with my camera phone, can't read the text, so im looking for a usb wire for my digital camera08:04
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sertmannjust hold on08:05
ahirreddyhow long until the fixes get integrated in to the one in the main repo08:05
BenCsertmann: ok, thanks08:05
BenCahirreddy: never if we don't get testing08:05
ahirreddycool08:05
BenCit's a test kernel, which means we don't know if it fixes the problem or not08:05
ahirreddyi see,08:05
ahirreddydoes anyone know what the exact changes are08:05
trejackBenC: do you want me to try the modprobe options with this kernel?08:06
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BenCtrejack: I'm really only interested in getting this fixed without additional options, but you can try the "options libata ignore_hpa=0"08:06
BenCkylem: looks like the re-id might be causing some foobar...08:07
BenChttp://librarian.launchpad.net/7330784/IMG_2979.JPG08:07
BenChard to tell with that run-off08:07
john_brown_jrapplied the new kernel (simply clicked on deb file and chose to overwrite) - still does not boot. screenshot - http://librarian.launchpad.net/7329378/00001.jpg08:08
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kylemBenC, i was afraid of that.08:08
kylemthe state machine probably isn't expecting it08:08
BenCjohn_brown_jr: are you sure you are booting the new kernel?08:08
BenCthere's some expected output there that I don't see08:08
BenCactually, no you aren't08:09
BenCI'm sure of that08:09
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BenCjohn_brown_jr: download the .deb to disk, and run "sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic_*.deb"08:09
john_brown_jrwell, yes, the errors were so similar (to me) that I pointed to the old screenshot. should I take a new one?08:09
john_brown_jr(sorry )08:09
BenCjohn_brown_jr: yes08:10
trejackhttp://librarian.launchpad.net/7330784/IMG_2979.JPG08:10
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BenCtrejack: eventually you should get to a busybox prompt (3 minute wait), do you have a USB disk/keychain?08:11
trejacksorry dropped out by mistake08:11
trejackyes picture is just before it dropped into busybox08:11
BenCtrejack: If so, can you (at the busbox prompt), mount the usb drive, and dd if=/proc/kmsg of=/mnt/dmesg.txt bs=1 &08:12
trejackI do have a USB disk08:12
BenCthen unplug the device, and get me that file after rebooting08:12
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BenCwait about 10 seconds before unplugging08:12
trejackOk.  (scrambling for drive, writing down commands)08:14
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BenCtrejack: thanks08:14
ivoksBenC: fwiw, today's cd image works in qemu (two days before it didn't work)08:14
ivoks(that would be; disk and cdrom are detected)08:15
BenCivoks: great, I had tested it myself, but good to know it works for others08:15
ivoksoh... ok :)08:15
trejackI'll be back08:15
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BenCif anyone wants to review the patch I am building with, it's at http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/libata.diff08:16
BenCwould be good to get some eyeballs on it08:16
mdzBenC: I just tried to clone a git tree, and got: receiving file list ... rsync: link_stat "/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git/objects/." (in pub) failed: No such file or directory (2)08:20
BenCmdz: you need to re-parent to ubuntu-feisty.git08:21
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BenCubuntu-2.6 only exists on rookery right now, and it's just a prep area for gutsy08:21
macdBenC, Im not sure why you changed the function from ata_hpa_native_size to ata_hpa_get_native_size, or is that for readability?08:21
mdzBenC: oh, KernelGitGuide is out of date then08:21
BenCmacd: because I added ata_hpa_set_native_size08:22
BenCthat's just a readability change...the main portion to worry about is in ata_hpa_resize()08:22
macdyeah, Im looking in there now08:23
BenCfuck08:23
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BenCplease put your downloads/boots on hold till I get some new images up08:24
kylemBenC, what did you break? :)08:24
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BenCI broke patch apparently08:24
BenCbecause I didn't build with the libata.diff08:24
kylemoh.08:24
BenCsorry for wasting everyone's time08:25
sertmannsorry, i can't bloody find my usb-wire, isn't there anyway to make a log to txt file from boot?08:25
sertmannah08:25
sertmannnever mind i see :)08:25
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BenCsertmann: hold off, I have new images building08:25
sertmannill just watch some discovery channel till the new ones are build :)08:25
macdso Im safe to assume the problem I had was fixed in the repos version of -15.2508:26
macdBenC, do you have the diff from -14 to -15?08:26
BenCmacd: yes, that was probably the -15.25 fix08:27
BenCreverting a patch to sata_nv to fix bad lba48 nodata junk08:28
macdk.08:28
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trejackForgive my ignorance, I'm having difficulty mounting the USB drive from busybox08:36
BenCtrejack: No need now, the images were no good08:37
BenCtrejack: should have new ones in 15-2008:37
trejackok08:37
trejackI'm on a windows box now, I'll exit and reboot into -13 on my other08:38
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BenCbuilds are just about done08:45
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tijscoI have problems with the 2.6.20-15.25 kernel and have the sata_nv i think. I reported my problem here (as Matthijs): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/10641808:50
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BenCtijsco: topic, test kernels being built now to see if we can fix it08:52
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BenCi386 -generic kernel is uploading now, amd64 to follow08:52
tijscookay, thanks!08:52
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BenC864d9379b79e9430178412a3b84be9fd  linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic_2.6.20-15.26_i386.deb08:54
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BenCSo download from http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels/feisty-release/08:55
BenCthese are marked -15.26 to avoid confusion08:55
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BenCbc6ed30b95aecdc2369bd65394aba0f3  linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic_2.6.20-15.26_amd64.deb09:01
BenCthat one is still uploading09:01
BenC100 seconds to completion09:01
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john_brown_jr15.26 works for me! (had to switch from nvidia to nv, though)09:02
BenCjohn_brown_jr: yay, can you pastebin your dmesg please?09:02
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john_brown_jrpastebin?09:02
BenCjohn_brown_jr: you should be able to get the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15 and nvidia-glx packages for this kernel09:03
BenChttp://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org 09:03
BenCjohn_brown_jr: paste the resulting link here09:03
BenCmdz: test kernels up09:04
BenCsertmann: test kernels upload09:04
mdzBenC: downloaded09:04
mdzBenC: do you suppose this kernel would work on dapper, sufficient for testing purposes?09:05
mdzinstalling feisty on the box with sata_nv isn't a good option right now09:05
BenCmdz: eesh, probably wont like initramfs-tools and module-init-tools09:05
john_brown_jrhttp://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15637/09:05
BenCkylem: sweet, the patch worked as expected09:06
macdmdz, yeah I tried that yesterday, init system is diff b/t 209:06
BenCjohn_brown_jr: gracias, it worked as I had hoped09:06
john_brown_jr:)09:06
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BenCamd64 image is done for anyone needing that09:07
trejackStill a no-go for me09:08
keir_hello, i cant boot into the newest fiesty kernel, it think it's the sata_nv issue09:08
trejackI'm in my busybox session on other computer - if you can help me mount that usb drive, I'll get dmesg09:08
BenCkeir_: topic, please test the kernel in that URL09:09
BenCtrejack: should just be able to plug it in09:09
BenCtrejack: check "ls /dev/sd*" and tell me what is listed for that command09:09
BenCsee if we can figure out which device it is09:10
trejackBe right back09:10
trejackits sda109:10
keir_BenC, will do09:10
BenCtrejack: mkdir /mnt; modprobe vfat; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt09:10
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BenCkeir_: thanks, please report success/failure09:10
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trejackmodprobe vfat's what I'm missing09:11
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trejackFATAL module vfat not found09:11
BenCerr...shouldn't be09:11
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BenCtrejack: any way to get an ext3 partition on there?09:12
BenCeither that or add vfat to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and rerun "sudo update-initramfs -u"09:13
trejackI think so on the ext3 question.  It'll take me a few minutes, though...09:14
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BenCanyone else able to test yet?09:17
mdznot yet09:17
BenCreally hoping trejack's problem is different09:17
keir_i can test the now09:17
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macdBenC, if that box would get past POST I will09:19
BenCkylem: the other cool thing about the re-id is we don't perform resize twice now09:20
mdzBenC: my install in vmware is taking *ages* now, it used to run quite quickly09:20
keir_BenC, that kernel works for me :)09:20
BenCkeir_: so you had the problem with -15.25 prior to this kernel, right?09:20
kylemi hope this doesn't blow our feet off, but ok09:20
Mithrandirmdz: check dmesg for the messages Scott was seeing?09:20
mdzMithrandir: did, nothing09:20
keir_BenC, correct, -15 and -14 wouldnt boot for me09:21
mdzI'm going to restart the whole thing and see what happens09:21
BenCkeir_: excellent, thanks09:21
tau650-15.26 works for me too:) Thanks!09:21
BenCmdz: is this with -15.26 or -15.25?09:21
keir_BenC, is there anything else you need?09:21
BenCtau650: excellent09:21
BenCkeir_: dmesg output please09:21
keir_ok09:21
mdzBenC: -15.2509:22
BenCtau650: if you could pastebin dmesg for me too, I'd appreciate it09:22
BenCmdz: check your host dmesg09:22
BenCmdz: I seem to be getting rtc boogers while running virtualization on jus tthis one machine09:23
BenCslows things up09:23
tau650http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15640/plain/09:23
keir_paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1564309:23
mdzBenC: the usual spew of 'host clock rate change request's09:23
mdzBenC: I think it got confused because I was doing a lot of I/O outside of vmware09:23
BenCtau650, keir_: thanks, looks good09:24
BenCmdz: possible that vmmon is doing whacky things...do you have paravirt enabled?09:24
mdzBenC: no, this is a dapper host09:24
BenCmdz: even on dapper host, the guest paravirt works09:24
BenCfor feisty kernel guest that is09:25
mdzBenC: I don't know then; I'm just booting the desktop CD09:25
mdzlatest feisty daily09:25
BenCmdz: if you didn't enable it in vmware prefs then it's disabled09:25
BenCbut it's easy to check, it's in the vm pref window09:26
mdzthis is workstation 5.5.209:26
BenCoh, then definitely not :)09:26
mdza beta VM seems to run more reasonably, which is worrisome09:27
BenCare you installing off actual CD, or a CD image on disk?09:27
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BenCsertmann: good news or bad?09:28
sertmanngood :)09:28
BenCyay09:28
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BenCsertmann: can you pastebin your dmesg please?09:28
sertmannsure, momento09:28
mdzBenC: iso on disk, this is my standard test setup I've been using since edgy09:28
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BenCmdz: is the guest using piix.ko or ata_piix.ko?09:29
mdzBenC: current feisty daily desktop iso09:29
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BenCis the disk hd or sd?09:29
mdzSCSI disk, IDE CD-ROM09:30
mdzI'm going to reboot the machine to make sure nothing is funny with vmware09:30
BenChmm...is it possible to blacklist piix and modprobe ata_piix?09:30
sertmannhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15644/09:30
BenCI've been wondering if the lba48 thing will fix the ata_piix exceptions09:31
sertmanndmesg output09:31
mjg59SET of native returned 218103822, expected 23444164809:31
BenCsertmann: excellent, shows as expected. Thanks for your help09:31
mjg59Winning.09:31
mjg59Nvidia, your hardware is made of cheese09:32
kylemthis should be ok for feisty i think09:32
kylemmjg59, sis too09:32
mjg59Really? Score.09:32
kylemyeah and probably uncommon ones too09:32
BenCdefinitely a bandaid...a good quality one, but still one non-the-less09:32
sertmannand my FAT32 formatted usbdisk is working aswell (Treetog wrote something about a fatal vfat crash)09:32
kylemBenC, we can break a shell prior to loading libata right?09:32
BenCkylem: yeah, I think just "break" stops before any module loading09:33
BenCso that could be a workaround as well for ignore_hpa=009:33
Mithrandirbreak=top stops pre-udev09:33
kylemgood. we might need a workaround for that.09:33
kylemi have a patch to strsep command_line[]  and pass options if mod->name matches09:33
BenCI think this current patch will win in almost any situation, but it's good to have a fallback09:34
BenCkylem: sweet09:34
kylembut it needs heavy testing09:34
BenCyeah, we can include it for 2.6.22 merges09:34
BenCI don't recall if there's any real options that include a period in them09:34
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kylemdoubt they'd match a module name09:35
kylemand it wouldn't break that anyway, the module code would just fail the compare, no big deal09:35
BenClet me get an upload prepared...being optimistic about this patch so far09:36
BenCtrejack seems to be the only one so far having issues09:36
BenCI'm hoping it's not related, especially since ignore_hpa=0 in his modprobe.d didn't help to start09:37
tijscoIs booting here also with 2.6.20-15.26, only nvidia-glx driver is not working now. Here dmesg: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15647/09:38
BenCtijsco: do you have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic?09:39
BenCtijsco: dmesg looks good, thanks09:39
tijscoyes, i have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic09:40
BenCtijsco: I don't see any nvidia output in your dmesg, odd09:41
tijscoMy mistake I think, I'll try again09:41
tijscoright back09:43
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sertmannjust a quick side note - nvidia glx fails here too09:45
sertmannprobably not you guys handling that, but now you know :)09:45
keturn_-15.26 fixes the sata hang...  nvidia I'm still confused about, since I had to back out nvidia-glx-new for a bit09:46
keturn_(on amd64)09:46
BenCI know we don't have an ABI change...guessing it's a quirk in the same ABI update09:46
BenCketurn_: do you got it working?09:47
BenCsudo /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common start09:47
BenCsudo depmod -a09:47
BenCthen restart gdm/X and see if that resolves it09:47
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sertmannBenC: that did it - nvidia glx working now also09:50
tijscoHere's a new dmesg: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15650/ nvidia-xgl is installed, but driver seems not be recognised by restricted drivers manager09:50
BenCsertmann: Ok, thanks09:50
BenCtijsco: try these commands:09:51
BenCsudo /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common start09:51
BenC sudo depmod -a09:51
BenC then restart gdm/X and see if that resolves it09:51
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tijscookay, i'll try09:52
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keturn_BenC: ok, everything seems to be back in order now.  thanks for being on top of things.10:00
BenCketurn_: np, thanks for testing10:00
BenCnew kernels are booting on all my machines10:03
BenCsata_nv/pata_amd machine as well10:03
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macdBenC, 2 people in #ubuntu+1 had success as well.10:05
BenCmacd: excellent, thanks10:05
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trejackback10:06
trejack(had to take a lunch break)  Here is my dmesg from the failed boot.  http://librarian.launchpad.net/7331014/dmesg.txt10:07
trejackhello?10:08
BenCtrejack: reading...10:09
BenCtrejack: your problems seems completely different from what we are working on10:10
BenCtrejack: what was the last kernel that worked for you?10:11
BenCI know pata_amd is not broken in general, since I'm using it10:11
trejack2.6.20-1310:11
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_4strOheno: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15655/10:12
trejackI was starting to be afraid it was different10:12
heno_4strO: thanks, BenC ^10:12
BenC_4strO: can you install the above kernels and test them? (URL in topic)10:13
BenCs/kernels/kernel/10:13
BenCtrejack: Not sure of anything that changed between -13 and now that would cause the problem you have10:13
_4strOBenC: yep10:14
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trejackI would try a reinstall, but when I boot to a build that uses the 2.6.20-14 kernel, it can't see my partitions either...10:15
_4strOBenC: I dpkg -i  download and install a new test kernel from here ??? is that right BenC or heno ?10:15
BenCtrejack: try a ISO from today, it has -15.25 kernel10:15
trejackok10:16
_4strOBenC: I dpkg -i  linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic_2.6.20-15.26_i386.deb is that right BenC or heno ?10:16
BenC_4strO: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels/feisty-release/10:16
BenC_4strO: yes10:16
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BenCthen reboot10:16
_4strOok$10:16
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trejackok10:16
trejackthanks for your help...10:17
BenCtrejack: thank you for sticking through all this tedious testing :)10:17
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_4strOBenC: looks fine10:21
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_4strOBenC: you want my lspci -vvn ?10:21
BenC_4strO: dmesg output is what I could use10:21
_4strOok 10:22
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_4strOBenC: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15657/10:23
BenC_4strO: great, thanks10:24
_4strOpleasure to be helpfull :)10:24
_4strOif you need something else ...10:26
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tijsco2.6.20.15-26 is booting fine now but nvidia-glx is not working with it, x-server not starting anymore: failed to initialize nvidia kernel module, mismatch between nvidia (1.0-9755) and x module (1.0-9631)10:29
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lazkaBenC, .26 broke the ivtv driver... is this normal?10:32
lazkahttp://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15659/10:35
lazkaalso cdrom drive still isn't working :(10:36
moodydeathhi ... still issues with .26 ... dmesg: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15660/ (boot process is stuck from line 320 to 328) - and lspci: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15661/10:41
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jan_@lazka: they built it without additional module support, maybe that's the cause ?10:42
lazkajan_, ok thx10:42
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lazkaI don't want be anoying... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/103410  have you guys tried the linked patch? I really wold like to have my drive back :(10:45
_4strOlazka: did you try this ?10:50
_4strOhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2453122&postcount=25610:50
lazka_4strO, is the extra initramfs needed after install?10:51
Mithrandirlazka: hm, that looks troublesome.10:52
Mithrandirkylem: do you have any ideas about lazka's bug?10:53
lazkaits the same trexjack had, i think10:53
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kylemthe patch in there doesn't help you if you have pata_amd...10:55
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kylemi'll see what we can do.10:56
lazkakylem, thx, you are my heros :)10:56
Mithrandirit's the slight problem of if people's CD drives are non-working they can't reasonably install10:57
kylemi concur10:57
kylemshit.10:58
kylemBenC, ping?11:01
Mithrandircall him, he's attending his birthday party.11:02
kylemhmm. it's ok.11:02
kylemlazka, amd64 or i386?11:04
lazkakylem, i386 ... nforce 2, pata11:04
moodydeathmmh, would there be a way to downgrade linux-image, restricted modules, etc. to 2.6.20-12 ... it's not in the repos anymore :(11:05
kylemmoodydeath, it's in launchpad11:05
lazkakylem, there are 2 more patches: http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/2/27/15711:05
moodydeathah, right, thx :D11:06
kylemyes, i'm about to spin you new packages to test11:07
lazkaok, i'll be there all night if you want11:07
kylemshould only take ~10 mins to build11:08
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kylembuilding now11:13
BenCkylem: ?11:33
BenCkylem: the pata_amd problem seems different, but for me it doesn't reproduce11:33
BenCkylem: according to the one report I saw, it seemed to regress between -13 and -14, which didn't make sense11:33
kylemyeah11:34
kylemfix building11:34
macdis there a way I can build just a single module instead of all of them?11:34
BenCbased on -15.26 upload?11:34
kylemBenC, i pinged you to get ahold of your sources, but i just repatched with what you had in your ~11:34
BenCkylem: I'll push -15.26 real quick11:34
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kylemBenC, is there more diff?11:34
BenCNo, but it'll be easier to base on for an Ubuntu-2.6.20-15.27 branch11:35
BenCeither way works, I just want to push it anyway11:35
kylemjust a test kernel, i'll toss you the patch once lazka tests it11:35
kylemon modpost now11:35
BenCOk, I'll start a .27 branch11:35
BenCtrejack had the problem too, but I guess he's gone11:36
kylemi recommend cp master to $rand and blatting it over master11:36
kylemi think lazka's fix is a 1-liner, i hope11:37
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Nafallohi!11:45
Nafallohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15674/11:45
Nafallocan someone tell me what's happening? :-)11:45
Nafallothis is with -15.2511:46
kylem"badness"11:46
kylemsomeone held interrupts off for too long.11:46
Nafallohmm11:46
kylemhmm.11:47
Nafallonoapic and irqpoll are used on the kernel commandline.11:47
Nafalloshould I try to removing irqpoll maybe? :-)11:47
kylemthat may help, yes11:48
Nafallooki. I'll try that then :-)11:49
kylemif your computer doesn't lock up, then it was simply a critical sectoin taking too long11:50
kylemnot a deadlock11:50
Nafallolockup and lockup... kept spawning the different messages over and over again until I pressed restart :-P11:51
kylemodd.11:52
kylemyou'd think it would deadlock, heh11:52
kylemlazka, ping11:56
lazkak, i see it11:57
kylemlazka, wait five minutes, then try this kernel, http://people.ubuntu.com/~kyle/kernels/feisty/linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic_2.6.20-15.27_i386.deb11:57
kylemit's still uploading11:57
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moodydeathwill this new image fix specially lazka's problem, or some other issues, too ?11:58
kylemjust lazka's it hink11:58
BenCmoodydeath: the ones in the topic will fix sata_nv and HPA issues11:58
kylemkind of depends on what the other issues are. ;P11:59
moodydeathalready installed it11:59
moodydeathhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2453833&postcount=26512:00
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moodydeathata2.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4)12:00
lazkamoodydeath, could be the same.12:00
lazkasince that is the error i get12:00
kylemok, it's uploaded12:01
kylemplease try it12:01
lazkajust dpkg -i?12:01
BenCmoodydeath: it is the one that kyle's kernel should fix12:01
BenCmoodydeath: http://people.ubuntu.com/~kyle/kernels/feisty/linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic_2.6.20-15.27_i386.deb12:01
moodydeathi'll try it anyway ^^ ... nothing to lose on my testsystem :D12:01
BenCkylem: I have a tree ready for -15.27, so just ping me when you get a patch12:02
Nafallohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15677/12:03
MithrandirBenC: I haven't accepted .26 yet.12:04
Nafallohehe. got that instead, but that's better I guess :-)12:04
kylemBenC, if it works patch is at rookery/~kyle/force-setfeatures-polling.diff12:04
BenCMithrandir: easier for me to just make a .27, so no biggy12:04
lazkaok, brb12:04
moodydeathinstalled kyle's .27  ....12:04
kylemoh fuckin gchrist.12:05
moodydeathyeah12:05
moodydeathworks :D+12:05
kylemyeah?12:05
kylemcdrom works?12:05
moodydeathuhm12:05
moodydeathdunno12:05
moodydeathbut this is the first kernel today, that doesn't stuck at the ata2 stuff12:06
kylemok12:06
moodydeathmom12:06
moodydeathdvd and cdrom drives work now, too12:08
MithrandirBenC: sure, whatever works for you.12:08
kylemgood12:08
kylemi'm glad12:08
moodydeathwith the older versions, only the asus drive works for me ... my liteon did'nt12:08
kylemmaybe they'll let me sleep tonight ;P12:08
BenCkylem: let me try on my pata_amd to make sure it doesn't regress there12:08
kylemk12:09
Mithrandirkylem: can we get a bit broader testing of it?  I'm reluctant to bring in a patch which has been so lightly tested.12:09
kylemMithrandir, i completely agree12:09
kylemit *should* be harmless12:09
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lazkasoo12:09
kylemsince PIO is the default ATA mode ;-)12:09
lazkaboot was smooth12:09
Mithrandirwell, "should" being the operative word. :-P12:09
MithrandirI'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just trying to play defensively here. :-)12:09
BenCgood thing is, it's restricted to pata_amd12:09
kylemMithrandir, yeah, i completely agree with you12:10
kylemjust saying, is all12:10
BenCbad thing is it's restricted to pata_amd, which makes finding real testers hard12:10
kylemBenC, what's that?12:10
BenCOh, wait, no, it's in libata-core.c12:10
NafalloI have pata_amd12:10
Nafalloseems -15.25 works for me though.12:10
kylemBenC, can you respin with that patch for amd64 on your quadcore/12:10
BenCyeah12:11
kylemi'll boot it on my pata_amd too12:11
moodydeath<-- pata_amd12:11
lazkakylem, http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15678/12:12
BenCkylem: what exactly is the result of this patch?12:12
kylemBenC, afaict some drivers respond to SETFEATURES_XFER too slow12:12
kylemBenC, this forces use of polling mode12:12
kyleminstead of interrupt mode12:12
kylemlazka, does your drive work12:13
BenCkylem: just for setting xfer mode?12:13
kylemBenC, yeah12:13
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lazkait doesnt automount, do i need an entry in fstab? there is nothing in there12:14

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