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| gnomefreak | asac: if you get a chance let me know what i need to do about the libnss and the rest of those libs for iceape. so far iceape has had 0 crashes and would like to test the libnss lib... and so on a little before tool chain opens for gutsy. (is it as simple as changing debian/control to list those libs as depends?) | 11:42 |
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| asac_the_2nd | hi :) ... my system somehow failed to update dyndns entry so I am locked out ;) | 01:54 |
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| asac_the_2nd | ola | 02:25 |
| asac_the_2nd | finally back :) | 02:25 |
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| flox | hello | 05:59 |
| flox | i hv segfault with Sunbird on Edgy | 06:00 |
| flox | but it works when launched as root (sudo) | 06:01 |
| flox | is it the right place to ask for help? | 06:03 |
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| gnomefreak | flox: you might want to try #mozilla on irc.mozilla.org | 06:47 |
| gnomefreak | unless freenode has a mozilla channel | 06:47 |
| flox | gnomefreak: thanks | 06:47 |
| gnomefreak | ubuntu doesnt package sunbird | 06:47 |
| gnomefreak | why does he pm me all his bugs :( | 06:48 |
| flox | channel #mozilla does not hv many people on freenode | 06:48 |
| flox | will try on irc.mozilla.org | 06:48 |
| gnomefreak | i think thats the server | 06:48 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: feisty system? | 06:50 |
| gnomefreak | mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist <<< liar | 06:51 |
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| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: no sarge | 07:11 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 07:11 |
| asac_the_2nd | bad thing i have a cloak | 07:12 |
| asac_the_2nd | otherwise i could see ip ;) | 07:12 |
| asac_the_2nd | hmm | 07:12 |
| === asac_the_2nd wonders if irc.gimp.org shows ips | ||
| asac_the_2nd | lets see | 07:13 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: did you try /ns ghost asac password | 07:13 |
| gnomefreak | than /nick asac | 07:13 |
| asac_the_2nd | no | 07:13 |
| asac_the_2nd | what would that do? | 07:13 |
| gnomefreak | ghost will kill asac | 07:13 |
| gnomefreak | so you can chage to it | 07:13 |
| asac_the_2nd | actually i am not bothered with my nick :) | 07:13 |
| asac_the_2nd | i want my ip to log in ;) | 07:13 |
| asac_the_2nd | and do other stuff like reading mail :( | 07:14 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 07:14 |
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| asac_the_2nd | great :) | 07:15 |
| asac_the_2nd | i am in | 07:15 |
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| === gnomefreak wonders why i havent seen any bugs yet on fx3 and ice (i know of a few already) | ||
| asac_the_2nd | which? | 07:18 |
| gnomefreak | oh i dont know like "why doesnt google work" or "why cant i install enigmail" | 07:18 |
| gnomefreak | there was aother one i found but i cant think of it atm | 07:19 |
| asac_the_2nd | ah ... yeah ... you see how many people downloaded? | 07:19 |
| gnomefreak | no | 07:19 |
| gnomefreak | i know of like 5 | 07:19 |
| gnomefreak | besides me | 07:19 |
| asac_the_2nd | yeah ... i guess there are some more | 07:19 |
| gnomefreak | we need to get it in update-alternatives | 07:20 |
| asac_the_2nd | but those are rather power-users that might not wonder about google search | 07:20 |
| gnomefreak | i guess that will come with official build | 07:20 |
| asac_the_2nd | update-alternatives? | 07:20 |
| asac_the_2nd | you mean for x-www-browser? | 07:20 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: yep :) | 07:20 |
| gnomefreak | it might be there | 07:20 |
| asac_the_2nd | yes thats true | 07:20 |
| gnomefreak | but its not in system>prefferences | 07:20 |
| asac_the_2nd | no i didn't install it so far | 07:20 |
| gnomefreak | oops | 07:20 |
| gnomefreak | perfered apps | 07:21 |
| asac_the_2nd | yes ... system -> preferences we need to add a hack to gnome-control-center | 07:21 |
| gnomefreak | hack not a patch :) | 07:21 |
| asac_the_2nd | yeah :) | 07:21 |
| asac_the_2nd | probably the same | 07:21 |
| asac_the_2nd | its not a hack as its the official way to do it | 07:21 |
| gnomefreak | cool | 07:21 |
| asac_the_2nd | anyway, changing gnome-control-center for each app that provides http:// is a hack imo | 07:22 |
| gnomefreak | need to add libnss and friends and add that for g-c-c | 07:22 |
| asac_the_2nd | cool i received mail today from apr 4 | 07:22 |
| === gnomefreak trying to think what else needs to be done (minus the rebuild for gutsy) | ||
| gnomefreak | that was a week and ahalf ago | 07:23 |
| asac_the_2nd | mt-needretrace :) | 07:23 |
| asac_the_2nd | is network manager fixed for you now? | 07:24 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 07:24 |
| gnomefreak | i used the test build for it | 07:24 |
| gnomefreak | before it hit repos | 07:24 |
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| gnomefreak | when you scroll it doesn't redraw properly | 07:26 |
| asac_the_2nd | hope thats not firefox? | 07:26 |
| gnomefreak | http://wiki.script.aculo.us/scriptaculous/show/Demos | 07:26 |
| gnomefreak | it is | 07:26 |
| gnomefreak | x86_64 | 07:27 |
| gnomefreak | thats the link | 07:27 |
| gnomefreak | feisty | 07:27 |
| gnomefreak | well it shows up fine here | 07:27 |
| asac_the_2nd | for me too ... on edgy though | 07:28 |
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| Naddiseo | Hello | 07:28 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: ok now you get a scroll bar? | 07:29 |
| Naddiseo | I'd take a screen shot, but it forces ff to redraw the page again | 07:29 |
| Naddiseo | It's like it lags when it's redrawing the bar | 07:30 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: http://wiki.script.aculo.us/scriptaculous/show/Demos is the link? | 07:30 |
| Naddiseo | yes | 07:31 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: is your firefox maximized? | 07:31 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: did you get a scroll bar on that link? | 07:31 |
| Naddiseo | yes | 07:31 |
| Naddiseo | My resolution is 1024x768 | 07:32 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: where? | 07:32 |
| gnomefreak | http://wiki.script.aculo.us/scriptaculous/show/Demos | 07:32 |
| asac_the_2nd | yeah i know that .... but what do you mean by scrollbar | 07:33 |
| asac_the_2nd | for me all fitted in default size | 07:33 |
| gnomefreak | im assuming the right hand bar | 07:33 |
| gnomefreak | its fitted here to | 07:33 |
| asac_the_2nd | and when i resized firefox it shows up properly | 07:33 |
| Naddiseo | does ubuntu have a pastebin for iamges? | 07:33 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: no | 07:33 |
| Naddiseo | k | 07:33 |
| asac_the_2nd | use imageshack.u | 07:33 |
| asac_the_2nd | s | 07:33 |
| asac_the_2nd | or something | 07:33 |
| gnomefreak | maybe theme? | 07:33 |
| Naddiseo | I'm using dfault theme | 07:34 |
| Naddiseo | using beryl though | 07:34 |
| gnomefreak | depending on extenstion to tool bar he has? | 07:34 |
| Naddiseo | Mm | 07:34 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: try it without beryl | 07:34 |
| Naddiseo | K | 07:34 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: stop beryl from starting up automaticly restart X | 07:34 |
| === gnomefreak willing to bet its a beryl rendering issue | ||
| Naddiseo | Lol | 07:34 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: do you see scrollbars if you make firefox really small? | 07:35 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: im head of ubutnu-effects team | 07:35 |
| gnomefreak | these things i have to know | 07:35 |
| Naddiseo | Mm, it looks to be beryl.. | 07:35 |
| Naddiseo | Let me just restart X though | 07:35 |
| gnomefreak | brb smoke | 07:36 |
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| Naddiseo | Ok, it's working fine when beryl isn't on | 07:37 |
| asac_the_2nd | wierd thing | 07:38 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: you still can provide me with a screenshot? | 07:38 |
| Naddiseo | Not of the bug, taking a screenshot redraws the window | 07:38 |
| Naddiseo | but I can show you | 07:38 |
| Naddiseo | the window from what I saw | 07:39 |
| Naddiseo | that didn't make sense :p | 07:39 |
| Naddiseo | http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w187/Naddiseo/Screenshot-1.png | 07:40 |
| Naddiseo | I drew a red circle around the bar | 07:40 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: brain teaser: mozilla ships firefox with pango enabled ubuntu ships it enabled also disabling pango makes ff render faster (why?) why is pango so important to it | 07:41 |
| gnomefreak | i dont see any downside/side-effects to disabling pango | 07:42 |
| Naddiseo | Isn't pango what draws all the text? | 07:43 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: text still draws without pango | 07:43 |
| Naddiseo | Oh.. | 07:44 |
| asac_the_2nd | pango is good | 07:46 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: are you using beryl from feisty repo or from beryl.ubuntu repo? | 07:46 |
| asac_the_2nd | better for multi lang | 07:46 |
| Naddiseo | beryl repo I think | 07:47 |
| asac_the_2nd | afaik we disable it for locales that don't need pango | 07:47 |
| gnomefreak | ah that makes sence than | 07:47 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: english doesnt need it and its enabled iirc | 07:47 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: hold on a sec, | 07:47 |
| Naddiseo | http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org | 07:47 |
| asac_the_2nd | we have | 07:47 |
| Naddiseo | that repo | 07:47 |
| asac_the_2nd | if [ "x${MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO}" = x ] ; then | 07:47 |
| asac_the_2nd | if egrep '^(bn|gu|hi|kn|ml|mr|ne|pa|si|ta|te)_' \ | 07:47 |
| asac_the_2nd | /var/lib/locales/supported.d/*[^~] >/dev/null 2>&1; then | 07:47 |
| asac_the_2nd | MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=0 | 07:47 |
| asac_the_2nd | else | 07:47 |
| asac_the_2nd | MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 | 07:47 |
| asac_the_2nd | fi | 07:47 |
| asac_the_2nd | export MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO | 07:48 |
| asac_the_2nd | fi | 07:48 |
| gnomefreak | oh that is fairly new than | 07:48 |
| asac_the_2nd | so if you have non of the above installed you should not get pango | 07:48 |
| Naddiseo | Man, I wish I could help you guys write ff ^^ My C++ sucks though | 07:48 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: it does not depend what locale you currently run under, but what locale is installed at all | 07:48 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: on | 07:48 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 07:48 |
| asac_the_2nd | so remove everything from your supported languages should disable pango if i see it correctly | 07:49 |
| asac_the_2nd | btw, those lines are from edgy ... so not that new | 07:49 |
| asac_the_2nd | maybe look in /usr/bin/firefox if that statements exists there as well | 07:49 |
| asac_the_2nd | i have no feisty at hand atm | 07:49 |
| gnomefreak | yep same here | 07:51 |
| === gnomefreak couldnt find pango in about:config | ||
| asac_the_2nd | k | 07:52 |
| asac_the_2nd | its not there | 07:52 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: ati card by chance? | 07:53 |
| Naddiseo | Nope, nvidia | 07:53 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: because its not set through firefox pref settings | 07:53 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: ah | 07:53 |
| Naddiseo | 7300gs | 07:53 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: ok ty | 07:53 |
| asac_the_2nd | iirc nvidia has some composite issues as well | 07:53 |
| === gnomefreak going through bugs i remember. | ||
| asac_the_2nd | maybe you need an xorg.conf tweak? | 07:53 |
| Naddiseo | Mm, want me to paste my xorg.conf on pastebin? | 07:54 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: none of the normal settings affect that | 07:54 |
| gnomefreak | normal added settings | 07:54 |
| gnomefreak | although 7300 might be | 07:54 |
| gnomefreak | its a bitch to set up on ubuntu (lately) | 07:54 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: sorry ... i am a l00ser for composite issues ... its just that i remember haven't read something about it somewhere | 07:54 |
| Naddiseo | Yeah,I have to reinstall the nvidia driver after each kernel upgrade :p | 07:55 |
| Naddiseo | I keep a copy in my home dir | 07:55 |
| gnomefreak | you get it from nvidia.com or from repos? | 07:55 |
| Naddiseo | nvidia.com | 07:56 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: thats normal | 07:56 |
| Naddiseo | K, good. | 07:56 |
| gnomefreak | it has to rebuild the kernel modules | 07:56 |
| gnomefreak | since your not using ubuntus l-r-m package | 07:56 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: use ubuntu packages | 07:56 |
| Naddiseo | I should probably look at the build logs, it gives me errors about no symlink to a glx module | 07:56 |
| asac_the_2nd | it will ease your pain a lot | 07:56 |
| Naddiseo | lol, do they have the same performance? | 07:57 |
| gnomefreak | let me know if you get a 6200 and up set up properly | 07:57 |
| asac_the_2nd | they are the same ... but its taken care that you don't mess up anything by installing them | 07:57 |
| Naddiseo | Ok, what are the packages called? | 07:57 |
| Naddiseo | the nvidia-glx ones? | 07:57 |
| asac_the_2nd | you have restricted in your sources.list ? | 07:58 |
| Naddiseo | Yeah | 07:58 |
| asac_the_2nd | what does uname -a give you? | 07:58 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: nvidia-glx-new | 07:58 |
| Naddiseo | Linux richard-64 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Fri Apr 13 20:39:41 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 07:58 |
| gnomefreak | glx-new is the 9755 drivers | 07:59 |
| Naddiseo | Ok, | 07:59 |
| gnomefreak | -glx is the 9631 iirc | 07:59 |
| asac_the_2nd | install nvidia-restricted-modules-SOMETHING | 07:59 |
| gnomefreak | because of the geforce4 cards not being supported by new drivers | 07:59 |
| asac_the_2nd | sorry | 07:59 |
| asac_the_2nd | linux-restricted-modules | 07:59 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: run the uninstall on the nvidia.sh first | 08:00 |
| Naddiseo | k | 08:00 |
| gnomefreak | you will get cant find kernel modules if you dont | 08:00 |
| gnomefreak | or API mismatch | 08:00 |
| asac_the_2nd | probably installing nvidia-glx(-new) will automatically install the kernel module | 08:00 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: not if you leave the nvidia.sh ones in | 08:01 |
| Naddiseo | I think I have the restricted ones already | 08:01 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: yes might be | 08:01 |
| gnomefreak | they will install but you can use them iirc | 08:01 |
| gnomefreak | took me 4 days to figure out how to remove the script nvidia drivers | 08:01 |
| Naddiseo | lol | 08:02 |
| asac_the_2nd | yeah uninsatlling nvidia stuff is the only way to get rid of them :) | 08:02 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: ther eis no instructions anywhere for sh nvidia.sh uninstall | 08:02 |
| Naddiseo | Yeah there is.. | 08:02 |
| Naddiseo | sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run --advanced-options | 08:02 |
| gnomefreak | yes its in the script not on a link anywhere unless that has changed since edgy alphs2 | 08:03 |
| gnomefreak | alpha | 08:03 |
| Naddiseo | linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic or linux-restricted-modules-amd64-generic? | 08:03 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: you using 64 | 08:03 |
| Naddiseo | Yes | 08:03 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: ;) | 08:04 |
| Naddiseo | K | 08:04 |
| asac_the_2nd | i would try both | 08:04 |
| asac_the_2nd | :) | 08:04 |
| gnomefreak | install them both it will choose :) | 08:04 |
| === gnomefreak would think the amd64 but i dont use 64bit | ||
| Naddiseo | K, they're both installed. Now for the nvidia-glx-new ? | 08:05 |
| gnomefreak | run uninstall script for nvidia.sh and try to start X | 08:05 |
| === gnomefreak would reboot | ||
| Naddiseo | k | 08:05 |
| gnomefreak | it doesnt make a difference just preffernece | 08:06 |
| Naddiseo | should I start beryl on reboot? | 08:06 |
| gnomefreak | if you want to use it | 08:06 |
| Naddiseo | k | 08:06 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: you might want to make sure drivers work first | 08:06 |
| Naddiseo | good point | 08:06 |
| Naddiseo | k, back in a min | 08:07 |
| gnomefreak | hint 7300 cards are a bitch to set up (atleast i get 3-4 complaints a day on it | 08:07 |
| gnomefreak | they always come in pairs :( | 08:07 |
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| Naddiseo | Mm, X gave me an error about version mismatch | 08:11 |
| Naddiseo | asked me to reinstall nvidia | 08:11 |
| asac_the_2nd | probably something has not been uninstalled nvidia | 08:11 |
| Naddiseo | possibly | 08:12 |
| asac_the_2nd | which shows why its so bad to run nvidia installer :/ | 08:12 |
| gnomefreak | make sure the nvidia built restricted modules uninstalled | 08:13 |
| Naddiseo | How? | 08:13 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: good question. there is a way but the api mismatch tells me its still installed | 08:14 |
| Naddiseo | Mm, it said the uninstallation was succesful | 08:14 |
| gnomefreak | or the -generic and amd64-generic are conflicting (but i dont know if they would) | 08:14 |
| Naddiseo | yet I'm stuck on command line | 08:15 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: you have to reload nvidia module ? | 08:15 |
| asac_the_2nd | did you reboot? or just restart X ? | 08:15 |
| Naddiseo | the -generic was already installed, the amd64 was the only new one | 08:15 |
| Naddiseo | at first I restarted X and it was ok, then I rebooted | 08:15 |
| gnomefreak | get rid of the 64 bit one | 08:15 |
| Naddiseo | k | 08:15 |
| Naddiseo | removed | 08:16 |
| gnomefreak | if that gives same error reinstall that one uninstall the other one | 08:16 |
| Naddiseo | should I reboot? | 08:16 |
| gnomefreak | sudo /etc/init.d gdm restart should work | 08:16 |
| Naddiseo | k | 08:16 |
| gnomefreak | or am i missing a dir in there :( | 08:16 |
| Naddiseo | wow | 08:16 |
| Naddiseo | it worked | 08:16 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 08:16 |
| Naddiseo | but | 08:16 |
| Naddiseo | the resolution is like 2000x2000 | 08:16 |
| gnomefreak | /etc/init.d/gdm restart | 08:16 |
| Naddiseo | and refresh rate is like 50hz | 08:17 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: thats some tweeks in your xorg.conf | 08:17 |
| Naddiseo | yeah | 08:17 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: check with #ubuntu-effects for that | 08:17 |
| Naddiseo | K, once I logged in it went back to my good resolution | 08:17 |
| === gnomefreak almost positive pricechaild would know but dont ask him directly as he might be busy | ||
| gnomefreak | pricechild even | 08:18 |
| Naddiseo | K | 08:18 |
| Naddiseo | brb, Just going onto xchat in gdm | 08:18 |
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| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: im wondering if we should go through the wishlist bugs and see if we can implement them in gutsy or close them? | 08:19 |
| gnomefreak | reason i ask before release that way we can push them in early release and we get better testing at that point other than throwing them in mid release | 08:20 |
| asac_the_2nd | yeah we should go through them and sort things out | 08:20 |
| asac_the_2nd | lets do that once feisty is out | 08:21 |
| gnomefreak | plus im thinking there are 100+ of them but looking now | 08:21 |
| gnomefreak | k | 08:21 |
| Naddiseo | Mm, I think I'm using nv | 08:21 |
| asac_the_2nd | e.g. starting in two weeks | 08:21 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: 100+ ? | 08:21 |
| asac_the_2nd | we only have 660 bugs open | 08:21 |
| asac_the_2nd | with about 500 crashes :) | 08:21 |
| gnomefreak | oh thats it? | 08:21 |
| === gnomefreak remebers 800+ bugs | ||
| === hjmf is being busy :) | ||
| asac_the_2nd | maybe ... but minus dups we are currently at 650 | 08:22 |
| gnomefreak | i saw | 08:22 |
| asac_the_2nd | hjmf: great work | 08:22 |
| gnomefreak | im searching for wishlist atm | 08:22 |
| hjmf | the day before yesterday there were > 750 | 08:22 |
| gnomefreak | hjmf: great work is right | 08:22 |
| hjmf | ty :) | 08:23 |
| asac_the_2nd | you probably brought the list down from 750 last weak :) | 08:23 |
| asac_the_2nd | yeah | 08:23 |
| asac_the_2nd | i recognized that | 08:23 |
| asac_the_2nd | a great surprise | 08:23 |
| gnomefreak | 647 atm | 08:23 |
| hjmf | asac: Ive seen you've work today too ;) | 08:23 |
| gnomefreak | oh there are 47 wishlistd | 08:23 |
| asac_the_2nd | hjmf: not much :) | 08:23 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: you spammed my box too | 08:24 |
| gnomefreak | ;P | 08:24 |
| hjmf | :) | 08:24 |
| asac_the_2nd | current count is 648 results | 08:24 |
| === gnomefreak did like 20 bugs this week :( | ||
| asac_the_2nd | without hiding dupes we have | 08:25 |
| asac_the_2nd | 1241 results | 08:25 |
| asac_the_2nd | :-P | 08:25 |
| hjmf | there are still a lot that should be closed for lack of info | 08:25 |
| gnomefreak | hell we have what 90 dupes of the theme bug on edgy | 08:25 |
| asac_the_2nd | yeah ... most of the older ones | 08:25 |
| asac_the_2nd | i guess anything with bugid < 75000 | 08:25 |
| asac_the_2nd | is suspect to be closed | 08:26 |
| hjmf | >170 dupes for gtk issue | 08:26 |
| asac_the_2nd | yeah :) | 08:26 |
| asac_the_2nd | or :( | 08:26 |
| gnomefreak | oh shit | 08:26 |
| hjmf | on feisty we got rid of it | 08:26 |
| hjmf | mostly | 08:26 |
| asac_the_2nd | hjmf: really= | 08:26 |
| asac_the_2nd | good | 08:26 |
| gnomefreak | i dont see us getting rid of it on edgy | 08:26 |
| asac_the_2nd | we fixed parts of it ... so good news | 08:26 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: we won't | 08:26 |
| asac_the_2nd | ah ... maybe we will once we have fixed everything | 08:27 |
| Naddiseo | you have a party | 08:27 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: hjmf your both good on may 1 1800utc meeting? | 08:27 |
| hjmf | to me is OK | 08:28 |
| asac_the_2nd | may 1 is public holiday here | 08:28 |
| gnomefreak | oh crap | 08:28 |
| asac_the_2nd | if weather is good i might be at sea | 08:28 |
| asac_the_2nd | but 2000 .... its probably ok | 08:29 |
| gnomefreak | ok well doesnt look like anything new on agenda anyway they are all defrerred so we can always defer them again | 08:29 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: ill talk to the fridge people about changing it after i send email out with time date change | 08:29 |
| gnomefreak | ill do it later in week. | 08:30 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: | 08:30 |
| asac_the_2nd | no | 08:30 |
| asac_the_2nd | its ok i guess | 08:30 |
| asac_the_2nd | 1800 UTC is 2000 here | 08:30 |
| asac_the_2nd | so should work | 08:30 |
| gnomefreak | tonight and tomorrow we are supposed to be hit hard by a storm so i may be gone | 08:30 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: good luck :) | 08:30 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: ok cool just let me know. i would hate to ask you to work on day off | 08:30 |
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| asac_the_2nd | meeting is no real work :) | 08:31 |
| hjmf | oops right 1may is holiday here too | 08:31 |
| gnomefreak | true | 08:31 |
| Naddiseo | nvidia-glx-new gives me a version mismatch too. | 08:31 |
| gnomefreak | its labor day for mexico and may day whatever that is | 08:31 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: probably as on other channel | 08:31 |
| asac_the_2nd | we are focussed and mozilla and don't support nvidia troubles so much ... so probably we are not the best to ask :( | 08:32 |
| gnomefreak | Naddiseo: i would bother them in #ubuntu-effects | 08:32 |
| asac_the_2nd | for me things usually just work | 08:32 |
| Naddiseo | Ok, so that rendering issue is beryl and not firefox ?:p | 08:32 |
| gnomefreak | they are best place for video support belive it or not since they rely on video working :) | 08:32 |
| asac_the_2nd | but I don't install things the non ubuntu way | 08:32 |
| gnomefreak | right | 08:32 |
| gnomefreak | 100% positive its beryl | 08:33 |
| Naddiseo | OK | 08:33 |
| gnomefreak | is london nice? in august/oct. | 08:33 |
| Naddiseo | It's ok. Not the best city in England :p | 08:34 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: i guess london is never nice for sure | 08:34 |
| === gnomefreak never been | ||
| asac_the_2nd | you might get a week of rain | 08:34 |
| asac_the_2nd | same as here in germany | 08:34 |
| gnomefreak | thats ick | 08:35 |
| Naddiseo | Yeah, it always rains in the UK, I'm glad I moved | 08:35 |
| gnomefreak | and aussie land is gonna be hot than | 08:35 |
| asac_the_2nd | no | 08:35 |
| asac_the_2nd | australia has winter then | 08:35 |
| gnomefreak | no | 08:35 |
| gnomefreak | oh yes | 08:35 |
| gnomefreak | end of winter | 08:35 |
| asac_the_2nd | for sure :) | 08:35 |
| asac_the_2nd | more like start of spring | 08:35 |
| Naddiseo | Canada has a winter -_- It's just over this past few days | 08:36 |
| gnomefreak | cause its end of summer early fall here | 08:36 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: anyway ... not hot if you compare with january | 08:36 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: you plan holidays? | 08:36 |
| === gnomefreak was invited to go make 2 stops in london than off to aussie land and than to phenox az | ||
| gnomefreak | thats not spelled right | 08:37 |
| gnomefreak | oh well its in us no big deal | 08:37 |
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| gnomefreak | it makes for a long end of year since its one stop after another | 08:37 |
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| gnomefreak | well we shall see | 08:38 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: probably :) | 08:38 |
| asac_the_2nd | guess a nice trip | 08:38 |
| asac_the_2nd | except the long flights | 08:38 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: feel free to go for me :) | 08:38 |
| === gnomefreak has to renew passport too than | ||
| asac_the_2nd | have fun with fingerprints :) | 08:39 |
| gnomefreak | crdlb: i sent him there | 08:39 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 08:39 |
| gnomefreak | 7300 is a bitch to set up and i know #ubuntu-effects handles vidfeo cards better than #ubuntu+1 ;) | 08:40 |
| Naddiseo | :p | 08:40 |
| gnomefreak | anything about 6200 (not counting the 9755 drivers) have been hell since they were put on selves | 08:41 |
| gnomefreak | s/about/above | 08:42 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: if i get things done around the house today and storms hold off for a while i might play in the early reported bugs | 08:42 |
| Naddiseo | How did you guys get started in mozilla development, then? | 08:44 |
| === Naddiseo interested | ||
| asac_the_2nd | depends on who you ask :) | 08:45 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: i will upload firefox locale packages tomorrow late at night (hope they still will get in for feisty) .. then on monday go back to bug work again too | 08:46 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: helping mozillateam in bug work is probably a good thing to start | 08:47 |
| asac_the_2nd | later go and develop extensions | 08:48 |
| asac_the_2nd | :-D | 08:48 |
| Naddiseo | Ok | 08:48 |
| Naddiseo | How can I help then :p | 08:48 |
| Naddiseo | I think learning c++ is going to be part of my job requirement in the near future, but until then, what could I do to help? | 08:49 |
| asac_the_2nd | wait a second | 08:49 |
| Naddiseo | Ok | 08:49 |
| asac_the_2nd | maybe read this | 08:49 |
| asac_the_2nd | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States | 08:49 |
| asac_the_2nd | its about how to categorize bugs by state and tags | 08:50 |
| asac_the_2nd | here are quicklinks to bugs with certain tasks | 08:50 |
| asac_the_2nd | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Tags | 08:50 |
| === gnomefreak wants to start working towards motu member :( | ||
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: once feisty is out you will maintain things like iceape et al | 08:52 |
| asac_the_2nd | i guess its a good start | 08:52 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: ah cool :) | 08:52 |
| gnomefreak | debian/rules == bash script? | 08:53 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: can you code a bit? | 08:53 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: no :) | 08:53 |
| Naddiseo | Yeah, I've been coding since I was 11 | 08:53 |
| asac_the_2nd | its makefile | 08:53 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: great :) | 08:53 |
| asac_the_2nd | what languages can you do atm? | 08:53 |
| gnomefreak | lets hope hes older than 12? | 08:53 |
| gnomefreak | ;) | 08:53 |
| Naddiseo | I'm 18 :p | 08:53 |
| asac_the_2nd | should be enough :) | 08:54 |
| asac_the_2nd | you ever did javascript a bit? | 08:54 |
| gnomefreak | yeah thats fairly good time for C++ | 08:54 |
| Naddiseo | Yeah, I'm learning javascript as part of the requirement for getting my new job :p | 08:54 |
| Naddiseo | I know some C++ | 08:55 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: we would need someone who takes care to maintain some simple greasemonkey scripts | 08:55 |
| asac_the_2nd | (e.g. javascript) | 08:55 |
| gnomefreak | that would be nice | 08:55 |
| asac_the_2nd | so we get more efficient handling bugs | 08:55 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: its javascript ... and its pretty straight-forward | 08:55 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: you didnt get real far on the one script of answers did you? i forgot all about that :( | 08:56 |
| Naddiseo | I've read through some of the ff source, it's a very big project :p | 08:56 |
| Naddiseo | Ok | 08:56 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: i lost the link :) ... and didn't get to resurrecting things | 08:56 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: yeah ... its bad to start with | 08:56 |
| asac_the_2nd | takes about 3 years to know well :/ | 08:56 |
| asac_the_2nd | but good enough its modulized and you have extensions to get a better start | 08:57 |
| Naddiseo | wow | 08:57 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: do you have log history of this channel? | 08:58 |
| asac_the_2nd | i cannot find the greasemonkey script :( | 08:59 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: yes depending how far back | 08:59 |
| gnomefreak | i might still have it | 08:59 |
| asac_the_2nd | 2 month? | 08:59 |
| gnomefreak | i dont have those logs | 08:59 |
| asac_the_2nd | please search for greasemonkey | 08:59 |
| gnomefreak | if not i can get it | 08:59 |
| asac_the_2nd | there should be a http link somewhere | 08:59 |
| asac_the_2nd | it posted | 08:59 |
| gnomefreak | give me a few lets see if i can get it back | 09:02 |
| gnomefreak | asac_the_2nd: while im looking for this can you give me an idea on what we should do with but 97429 since we dont support that extension should we close it? | 09:03 |
| asac_the_2nd | bug 97429 | 09:04 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 97429 in firefox "Login hangs for Kodak Firefox plugin" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97429 | 09:04 |
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| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/bugtriage.mt.user.js | 09:07 |
| asac_the_2nd | i guess its broken as i started once to hack around :) ... however it should show the basics | 09:07 |
| asac_the_2nd | that java script gets loaded when you load sites in @include | 09:08 |
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| Naddiseo | Is that an extension for launchpad? | 09:09 |
| asac_the_2nd | it might be broken ... but the idea is to add links that automatically insert bulk answers in launchpad | 09:09 |
| Naddiseo | ah, ok | 09:09 |
| asac_the_2nd | greasemonkey is an extension fore firefox | 09:09 |
| asac_the_2nd | and exists for epiphany as well | 09:09 |
| asac_the_2nd | the script itself tries to extend launchpad | 09:10 |
| Naddiseo | Yeah, I've tried it before (when I didn't know any javascript) | 09:10 |
| asac_the_2nd | i guess it won't work because the website structure has changed to new layout | 09:10 |
| gnomefreak | it might not work in beta | 09:10 |
| asac_the_2nd | i think the important part is just window.addEventListener( | 09:10 |
| asac_the_2nd | everything else is something I started | 09:11 |
| gnomefreak | http://err.no/src/lp_expandportlets.user.js is different one | 09:11 |
| gnomefreak | but that is one i found so far | 09:11 |
| asac_the_2nd | so if you delete anything but the window.addEventListener | 09:11 |
| asac_the_2nd | it might work | 09:11 |
| Naddiseo | lol ok | 09:11 |
| Naddiseo | Just a sec, I need to reboot again | 09:12 |
| asac_the_2nd | sure | 09:12 |
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| === gnomefreak cant find it at all | ||
| === gnomefreak will ask him next time i see him | ||
| Naddiseo | OK, well I'm using the ubuntu nvidia drivers now ^^ | 09:16 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: your link is ok | 09:17 |
| asac_the_2nd | http://err.no/src/ | 09:17 |
| asac_the_2nd | there are some | 09:17 |
| gnomefreak | that is the one? | 09:17 |
| gnomefreak | on base link | 09:17 |
| asac_the_2nd | no | 09:18 |
| asac_the_2nd | there are plenty we can use to start | 09:18 |
| asac_the_2nd | stockreplies for instance is the one i used to start | 09:19 |
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| asac_the_2nd | for the kodak plugin ... i will think about it ... i guess its incompatible with ours | 09:20 |
| asac_the_2nd | i already have on my list to contact mozilla about it | 09:20 |
| gnomefreak | ok cool | 09:20 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: if you want to help ... lurk on mozilla-bugs mailing list (lots of traffic) ... you will see quickly how things are processed and can help :) | 09:21 |
| Naddiseo | Ok | 09:21 |
| asac_the_2nd | after some time you get a feeling what kind of bulk answers we need | 09:22 |
| asac_the_2nd | so we can add them to a greasemonkey script | 09:22 |
| gnomefreak | kodac plugin still works in feisty | 09:22 |
| asac_the_2nd | i am here al weekdays and on weekend sporadically :) ... so if you have any questions, just ask :) | 09:22 |
| Naddiseo | lol | 09:22 |
| Naddiseo | Err, this may seem a noob question, how do I view a mailing list :p | 09:23 |
| asac_the_2nd | hmm subscribe to? | 09:23 |
| Naddiseo | Yeah | 09:23 |
| asac_the_2nd | gnomefreak: you have an url? | 09:23 |
| asac_the_2nd | to subscribe to ml ? | 09:23 |
| gnomefreak | our list? | 09:24 |
| gnomefreak | the -bugs? | 09:24 |
| asac_the_2nd | -bugs | 09:24 |
| asac_the_2nd | both :) | 09:24 |
| asac_the_2nd | i guess wiki | 09:24 |
| gnomefreak | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mozillateam | 09:24 |
| gnomefreak | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs | 09:24 |
| asac_the_2nd | cool ... thanks | 09:25 |
| gnomefreak | yw | 09:25 |
| asac_the_2nd | Naddiseo: just follow links above :) | 09:25 |
| Naddiseo | Yup, I'm subscribing | 09:25 |
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| asac_the_2nd | ok ... got to go (video with gf) ... cu tomorrow | 09:28 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | hmm thunderbird 1.5.0.12 is out know i think | 11:06 |
| poningru | err you sure? | 11:08 |
| Admiral_Chicago | upstream | 11:09 |
| Admiral_Chicago | let me double check that | 11:10 |
| Admiral_Chicago | might be trunck...i'm exhausted, just woke up | 11:11 |
| Admiral_Chicago | bbl | 11:11 |
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