[02:49] <Xenocide> majoridiot, nother question for you, its endless bro :)
[02:50] <majoridiot> 'sup?
[02:50] <Xenocide> you know how the tv display goes black after awhile at the home menu
[02:50] <Xenocide> in fesity, when it goes black and i hit a button to bring the picture back its all dark like the brightness is helllla down
[02:51] <majoridiot> this is on a standalone setup, right?
[02:51] <majoridiot> no desktop
[02:51] <majoridiot> ?
[02:51] <Xenocide> yes sir
[02:51] <majoridiot> sec... lemme go look at mine.  i just got it fully setup.
[02:55] <majoridiot> mine came back fine
[02:55] <majoridiot> what video card/driver/paint styles?
[02:56] <Xenocide> default paint
[02:56] <Xenocide> ati card :(
[02:56] <Xenocide> remember all my problems lool
[02:56] <majoridiot> QT style?
[02:56] <Xenocide> yup
[02:56] <Xenocide> SO close to ordering nvidia card
[02:56] <Xenocide> its cool
[02:56] <majoridiot> you using the proprietary driver?
[02:56] <Xenocide> yup
[02:57] <Xenocide> remember i told you to add the overlay problems for feisty
[02:57] <Xenocide> to opengl or disable
[02:57] <majoridiot> have you tried openGL paint style instead of QT?
[02:57] <Xenocide> i should try that
[02:57] <Xenocide> thanks
[02:57] <majoridiot> sure... try that
[02:57] <majoridiot> let it time out and see
[02:57] <Xenocide> is a 6200 powerful enough for xVmc
[02:57] <Xenocide> for HD
[02:58] <majoridiot> not sure. lemme look.
[02:59] <majoridiot> doesn't look promising
[02:59] <majoridiot> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC
[03:00] <majoridiot>  NVidia 6200 	 HD 	 Never got working 	 30-70% 	 default 	 default 	 0.19, 0.20 	 Never got XvMXC to work - it dropped every 2nd frame...
[04:05] <Xenocide> majoridiot, trying the opengl right now waiting for it to time out
[04:10] <majoridiot> k
[04:12] <Xenocide> didn't work
[04:12] <majoridiot> hm
[04:13] <majoridiot> sounds driver related.
[04:13] <majoridiot> try googling?
[04:13] <Xenocide> thats my guess
[04:13] <Xenocide> i did no luck so far
[04:29] <Xenocide> blue people bug weee
[04:29] <Xenocide> seriously screw ATI
[04:29] <majoridiot> pretty much
[04:30] <Xenocide> was that 6200 good enough
[04:30] <majoridiot> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC
[04:32] <Xenocide> looks like i might be picking one up
[04:32] <Xenocide> wanna buy an X300SE pci express card? :)
[04:32] <majoridiot> after all i've done for you, you treat me like that?
[04:32] <majoridiot> :P
[04:33] <Xenocide> want a free one?
[04:33] <Xenocide> i don't think you even want that hahahha
[04:33] <majoridiot> LMAO
[04:33] <majoridiot> i was trying to give mine to superm1 the other night
[04:33] <Xenocide> haha
[04:33] <Xenocide> which card do you have
[04:34] <majoridiot> he might wind up with quite a collection
[04:34] <majoridiot> radeon 9600XT somethingorother usless POS
[04:34] <Xenocide> those were nice cards
[04:34] <Xenocide> a few years ago
[04:34] <majoridiot> in windows it was ok for what i needed it for
[04:34] <Xenocide> yea
[04:35] <majoridiot> it's never been anything but a pain in the ass in linux
[04:36] <Xenocide> hm
[04:36] <Xenocide> this xvmc article says some of the cards do not support hd
[04:36] <Xenocide> (with xvmc)
[04:36] <Xenocide> so they just do cpu based hd upscaling
[04:37] <majoridiot> it's a dodgy area
[04:37] <majoridiot> i've never had much luck with xvmc
[04:37] <majoridiot> now i don't need it.  the new box handles HD np.
[04:37] <Xenocide> mine does too
[04:38] <Xenocide> but more load off the cpu = way less heat
[04:38] <Xenocide> i have a pentium 530 in there
[04:38] <Xenocide> 3ghz w/ HT, aka overkill for mythtv
[04:38] <majoridiot> hehe. a litle.
[04:39] <Xenocide> damn hd is 9gb an hour
[04:40] <majoridiot> yup
[04:40] <Xenocide> i don't have a tuner but  hopefully my digital cable box will have firewire
[04:40] <Xenocide> *hd tuner
[04:40] <majoridiot> do you knpw what box they offer?
[04:43] <Xenocide> nope
[04:43] <Xenocide> oh hey fixed the dark screen
[04:43] <Xenocide> turned overlay off in X
[04:44] <majoridiot> how does the video look?
[04:45] <Chadarius> Xenocide: you have comcast?
[04:45] <Xenocide> timewarner
[04:46] <Chadarius> Xenocide: Well that is probably good. Not totally sure about TimeWarner, but Comcast has encrypted everything except for local channels so firewire blows chunks right now
[04:47] <Xenocide> thats the only way i can record HD except for OTA channels, correct?
[04:47] <majoridiot> chadarius: that's against the law
[04:48] <Chadarius> majoridiot: I wish it was but its not. The firewire port works fine if you use it with other devices that can use 5c encryption
[04:49] <majoridiot> not unless they changed the law
[04:49] <Chadarius> majoridiot: But MythTV and a PC is not one of those :(. And won't be until someone breaks federal law and figures out how to create a firewire driver that can do 5c decryption
[04:50] <Chadarius> majoridiot: Yep, but we can emulate a whole PC in software now so hopefully something is in the works
[04:57] <Xenocide> crazy stuff
[05:10] <majoridiot> well... no.  the law has not been changed.
[05:11] <majoridiot> chadarius: 76.1904   Encoding rules for defined business models.
[05:11] <majoridiot> (a) Commercial audiovisual content delivered as unencrypted broadcast television shall not be encoded so as to prevent or limit copying thereof by covered products or, to constrain the resolution of the image when output from a covered product.
[05:11] <majoridiot> (b) Except for a specific determination made by the Commission pursuant to a petition with respect to a defined business model other than unencrypted broadcast television, or an undefined business model subject to the procedures set forth in 76.1906:
[05:11] <majoridiot> (1) Commercial audiovisual content shall not be encoded so as to prevent or limit copying thereof except as follows:
[05:11] <majoridiot> (i) To prevent or limit copying of video-on-demand or pay-per-view transmissions, subject to the requirements of paragraph (b)(2) of this section; and
[05:11] <majoridiot> (ii) To prevent or limit copying, other than first generation of copies, of pay television transmissions, non-premium subscription television, and free conditional access delivery transmissions; and
[05:11] <majoridiot> (2) With respect to any commercial audiovisual content delivered or transmitted in form of a video-on-demand or pay-per-view transmission, a covered entity shall not encode such content so as to prevent a covered product, without further authorization, from pausing such content up to 90 minutes from initial transmission by the covered entity (e.g., frame-by-frame, minute-by-minute, megabyte by megabyte).
[05:13] <majoridiot> that's pretty clear... if you pay for it, you have every right to time shift
[05:13] <majoridiot> and there's no definition of "acceptable" methods.
[05:14] <majoridiot> so vcr, dvr, computer, dvhs or frame by frame with a cellphone is all legal.
[05:16] <Chadarius> majoridiot: Perhaps this section has something to do with us being bent over...Except for a specific determination made by the Commission pursuant to a petition with respect to a defined business model other than unencrypted broadcast television, or an undefined business model subject to the procedures set forth in 76.1906:
[05:16] <majoridiot> there is none on record with the fcc.
[05:16] <Chadarius> majoridiot: Perhaps the Commission has made a specific determination?
[05:16] <majoridiot> (it's a shell game, pal)
[05:17] <majoridiot> determinations must be published... and there are none published.
[05:18] <majoridiot> the sticking point is this:
[05:18] <majoridiot>  (ii) To prevent or limit copying, other than first generation of copies, of pay television transmissions, non-premium subscription television, and free conditional access delivery transmissions; and
[05:18] <majoridiot> recording via firewire is a first generation copy
[05:19] <majoridiot> which they can not prevent
[05:19] <majoridiot> if they insist they can, the onus is theirs to prove it... because it aint on the books as far as i can tell
[05:19] <majoridiot> and i keep on top of this as much as possible
[05:20] <majoridiot> chadarius: call dick durbin's office and ask them to look into it.
[05:20] <majoridiot> ;)
[05:22] <Chadarius> Yeah I will
[05:23] <majoridiot> the only "computer" limitation in the statute is specifically internet-based or via cable modem.  thaz it.
[06:11] <Xenocide> what is the key for the guide again?
[12:16] <superm1> majoridiot, take a look at some of this recording that i got sent
[12:17] <superm1> guess what you think the cause of the troubles was
[12:17] <superm1> wow i have an awesome upload speed to you.  750kb/s???
[12:20] <majoridiot> :)
[12:20] <majoridiot> i get 1250 from your repo most times
[12:22] <majoridiot> wow.  what was this recorded with?
[12:23] <superm1> pvr-***