[12:01] <Kendrick_> foug  raid capible controlers are listed differently in smartctl    3ware has an exmaple
[12:01] <sacater> or simply old hardware struggling to keep up
[12:01] <xyz-abc> ajehuk, I have file-sharing enabled, plus I'm sharing C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Desktop\All of It\movies
[12:01] <ffm> sacater: Its only in Konsole, though
[12:01] <ajehuk> gils - which vnc server are you using?
[12:01] <ragu> eck: Thanks. I'll start my searching
[12:01] <foug> Kendrick_: i have no idea what you're tlaking about. My sound was working fine no less than 24 hours ago, it just suddenly stopped working, no idea.
[12:01] <neozen> time for pizza!
[12:01] <Kendrick_> ajehuk  I can pin my internal and external ip   pinging my fw's gateway fails  however all othercomputers htere can
[12:01] <sacater> ffm: please report it as a software bug then
[12:01] <xyz-abc> ajehuk, would you like to see how I have fstab set up in Ubuntu?
[12:01] <sacater> ffm under konsole of course
[12:02] <Kendrick_> sorry foug   i was meaning faugn
[12:02] <foug> k
[12:02] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - yeah why not - stick it into a paste bin
[12:02] <Faugn> Kendrick_: slip of the completion? :)
[12:02] <Faugn> it's a board with a nforce2 controller
[12:02] <Kendrick_> missread it...
[12:03] <sacater> neozen: that was a small pizza
[12:03] <xyz-abc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15676/
[12:03] <Faugn> with regular IDE drives
[12:03] <Faugn> the seems to come from more recent kernels
[12:03] <Kendrick_> its not 3ware but iirc it is raid capible...
[12:03] <Faugn> (I had the same problem when trying the sabayon live CD)
[12:03] <Kendrick_> i had a nf7-s  with the nforce2 chips
[12:03] <ffm> WHICH IS better, QEMU, or VMWare?
[12:04] <Kendrick_> ffm xen ;)
[12:04] <jf_> G70, nVIDIA GeForce 7800GTX
[12:04] <ghost> l
[12:04] <ffm> Kendrick_: XEN?
[12:04] <cool_gamer8119> # Appears as MIKE
[12:04] <foug> can someone help me please? My sound is not working, it was workiner semi-decent earlier. I do a test under sound preferences and nothing happens. I've checked to make sure they are plugged in
[12:05] <Kendrick_> ffm: yup  I like it just got a xeon for running it on
[12:06] <Kendrick_> ffm:  the downside to vmware is it requires special drivers to handle the virtuilisation.
[12:06] <ffm> Kendrick_: I have a diminsion, will xen run on it?
[12:06] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - can you try mounting it manually (something like mount -t smbfs //domatron/movies-xp /home/downstairs/Desktop/winxpdir -o rw,username=user,password=password (with the relavent values, and as root..)
[12:07] <foug> can someone help me please? My sound is not working, it was workiner semi-decent earlier. I do a test under sound preferences and nothing happens. I've checked to make sure they are plugged in
[12:07] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: alright, except tell me what "-o rw" does
[12:08] <Kendrick_> ffm: afaik there is no restriction hw wise.  http://www.xensource.com/products/#xenserver_product_family   you can look over the info your serl
[12:08] <Shaba1> hello all
[12:08] <Kendrick_> err self
[12:08] <ajehuk> xyz-abc : -o is options (like the defaults,user,noexec,rw in fstab) and wr is mount it read/write
[12:08] <xyz-abc> ok
[12:08] <foug> someone please?
[12:09] <cappicard> hmm... this is odd.... whenever i send a test page to my lexmark z515, each job goes into status "job stopped."
[12:09] <neozen> foug: make/model of soundcard and version of ubuntu please
[12:10] <Kendrick_> ajehuk   does it still require  \\\\somatron\\movies-xp  ?  I know i had to do it that way a while back insted of the //domatron/movies-xp
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> Helpful hint of the day:  You can set your IRC client to ignore join and part messages so things don't scroll so fast.  :)
[12:10] <foug> neozen: sound blaster 16pci, 6.10. My sound was working no less than 12 hours ago. I woke up, tried to play a song and there was no sound
[12:10] <adaptr> foug: cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp, does anything happen ? you may want to turn down your speakers first...
[12:10] <rhk_> Has anyone tried EasyUbuntu on feisty?
[12:10] <neozen> adaptr: lol
[12:10] <adaptr> neozen: it's an honest hardware test...
[12:10] <neozen> adaptr: all hail the white noise test
[12:10] <ajehuk> Kendrick_ - AFAIK...
[12:11] <neozen> adaptr: I know
[12:11] <adaptr> it's actually the best test to prove that you HAVE sound
[12:11] <Jinxed> Used Atomatix, and worked fine
[12:11] <pirothezero> so when I add programs to a panel and when i try to move them they change from the program icon to a diamond with a question mark in it, clicking on the icon doesn't do anything. any ideas
[12:11] <Jinxed> all but google Earth
[12:11] <matjan> hi, has anyone tried to use vmgl to get 3d acceleration going in a virtual machine?
[12:11] <foug> adaptr: do i type all of that in? including the > and after?
[12:11] <adaptr> foug: yes, but DO trun down your speakers first
[12:12] <adaptr> foug: and do it as root, or you won't have access
[12:12] <ajehuk> adaptr : may want to?
[12:12] <foug> adaptr: should i go to my dev folder first?
[12:12] <adaptr> foug: no need, is there ?
[12:12] <foug> i don't know how to become root, and i dont' wanna blow up my rig ;o
[12:12] <ryeth> any suggestions on where to  get an understanding on using the bash terminal?
[12:12] <adaptr> foug: sudo cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[12:12] <adaptr> foug: white noise can't blow anything up
[12:12] <neozen> ....you have to sudo to cat /dev/random?
[12:12] <adaptr> it just sounds awful
[12:12] <eck> ryeth: bash is not a terminal :-) what exactly do you want to learn about?
[12:12] <rhk_> Jinxed: ok.. Do you know if it still does some weird 'sudo-stuff' without asking the user, like it used to?
[12:13] <ajehuk> ryeth - google says -http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php
[12:13] <adaptr> neozen: you have to sudo to see /dev/dsp
[12:13] <neozen> aaaah
[12:13] <foug> adaptr: nothing happened at all
[12:13] <cyberfr0g`> sup
[12:13] <neozen> didn't know that
[12:13] <eck> ryeth: shell commands or bash programming?
[12:13] <adaptr> foug: then you have no sound
[12:13] <foug> adaptr: well what do i do? it was working earlier
[12:13] <adaptr> foug: what sound card do you have ?
[12:13] <cyberfr0g`> out of interest
[12:13] <foug> adaptr: sound blaster 16bit pci
[12:13] <adaptr> foug: the real deal ? a card ?
[12:13] <casual_moron> hi, i wonder if anyone can help me, im just giving ubuntu another go on my new pc (i poked it cautiously with a stick on my old one but that was about it) but now when i try and start the cd on me new one it throws some x error about not finding any screen, i had a look at the detailed error message but it was insanly long and i couldent spot any relivent bits, i dont suppose somebody else has been having this kind of thing?
[12:13] <surviver> foug: can u browse with your player into your songs?
[12:13] <foug> adaptr: yea a card, bought it and put it in
[12:13] <ryeth> shell commands and bash programming, i'm trying to learn what i can
[12:13] <foug> surviver: yes
[12:14] <adaptr> foug: lsmod | grep snd
[12:14] <foug> surviver:  i can access them on my HD
[12:14] <surviver> foug: ok u have rw permission?
[12:14] <neozen> adaptr: strange... cating random into dsp doesn't do anything for me
[12:14] <foug> adaptr: how do i get out of whatever i did in terminal? i'm typing into nothing now
[12:14] <foug> surviver: no idea
[12:14] <neozen> adaptr: oh well.. my sound works
[12:14] <adaptr> foug: ctrl-C
[12:14] <eck> ryeth: i think you are best off finding a cheap unix book that goes through the basics -- you will want to learn a good deal of the shell commands before you start with bash programming
[12:14] <adaptr> foug: that always works in a terminal
[12:14] <surviver> foug: test this line     mount -o rw,remount /yourroute/..
[12:14] <neozen> adaptr: yay for the intel chipset HD card in the r60 thinkpad
[12:15] <gils> ajehuk: i am just using the built in remote desktop
[12:15] <Jinxed> installed some stuff to play around with, cd burning, codecs mp3, video players etc, and just went along happely, stopping just to accept user agreements at times, but no problems, exept google Earth, wich reboots, so got that uninstalled ..
[12:15] <foug> adaptr: k i did it
[12:15] <foug> surviver: i don't know how to do that
[12:15] <surviver> foug: so open console
[12:15] <ryeth> okay cool thanks, eck
[12:15] <eck> ryeth: i started off with some o'reilly unix pocket refernce that i got for like $3, and it served me pretty well to start off
[12:15] <adaptr> neozen: I have an ALi built-in that works fine, too
[12:15] <Eerilun> Hello, I'm completly new with linux
[12:15] <foug> surviver: just copy and paste what you typed?
[12:15] <ryeth> o'reilly unix pocket?  does that go with ubuntu?
[12:15] <neozen> Eerilun: hello
[12:15] <adaptr> foug: now run lsmod | grep snd
[12:15] <surviver> foug: yes
[12:16] <Eerilun> I just downloaded and installed Ubuntu server edition
[12:16] <rhk_> Jinxed: Thanks!
[12:16] <adaptr> foug: please don't listen to him... you'll get confused
[12:16] <foug> adaptr: aye i did, it listed my snd_stuff
[12:16] <ajehuk> gils : OK - not sure what that is under ubuntu...
[12:16] <neozen> Eerilun: ok
[12:16] <Eerilun> I'm a php programmer since a while
[12:16] <foug> surviver: :(
[12:16] <adaptr> foug: *what* stuff ?
[12:16] <neozen> Eerilun: welcome to the fold
[12:16] <Eerilun> Well
[12:16] <Jinxed> no probs, just my pennies worth
[12:16] <surviver> foug: np ill be here:D
[12:16] <foug> adaptr: snd_mpu401 and otheres alike
[12:16] <Eerilun> I see root got no password as defualt
[12:16] <foug> surviver: rgr
[12:16] <neozen> Eerilun: yes
[12:16] <neozen> Eerilun: welcome to ubuntu
[12:16] <Eerilun> What command is to list and change passwords
[12:16] <adaptr> ajehuk: it's the remote X windows protocol, XDMCP
[12:16] <neozen> Eerilun: you can't login as root on ubuntu
[12:16] <Eerilun> ./users
[12:16] <foug> adaptr: it shows my codec i'm using
[12:16] <neozen> Eerilun: or debian which it is based off of
[12:17] <neozen> Eerilun: read up on sudo
[12:17] <adaptr> foug: no.. it should show you the driver for the soundblaster, and if it does, then the hardware is supported and the driver loaded
[12:17] <preaction> neozen: when did debian disable root?
[12:17] <ajehuk> adaptr: ta
[12:17] <Eerilun> it says root@server
[12:17] <eck> ajehuk: it's a frontend to vino
[12:17] <foug> adaptr: ok yes it does
[12:17] <neozen> Eerilun: lol... well then you sudo su - 'd
[12:17] <foug> adaptr: see it's weird, i don't know what happened. Sound was working just fine, I went to bed, woke up and now it isn't
[12:17] <sorcerer> does any one know if i can play warcraft 3 on ubuntu ?
[12:17] <neozen> Eerilun: or you logged in in administration mode
[12:17] <sorcerer> or on linux?
[12:18] <foug> sorcerer: should be able to, read up on Wine and do a google search for "warcraft 3 in ubuntu"
[12:18] <neozen> Eerilun: don't worry.. people won't be able to login remotely to the box as root
[12:18] <neozen> Eerilun: only you in administration mode
[12:18] <neozen> Eerilun: and only from the keyboard directly attached to the box
[12:18] <Eerilun> ok.. I don't know much, as I said I'm completly new
[12:18] <neozen> Eerilun: its not a security risk
[12:18] <alexicon> hiya. my gnome background image doesnt show anymore. anyone know how i can get it back
[12:18] <neozen> Eerilun: no problem
[12:19] <alexicon> looks like the desktop broke, i get no icons on it or anything
[12:19] <adaptr> foug: okay, perhaps artsd is fscked up - do this: ps fax | grep artsd
[12:19] <neozen> alexicon: hmm... sounds like your desktop manager went kersplat
[12:19] <alexicon> maybe
[12:19] <samu> I'm having trouble using the cpan shell in ubuntu. I keep getting MAKE NOT OK for just about any module i try to install. Any ideas?
[12:19] <alexicon> panels are all working
[12:19] <foug> adaptr:  5518 pts/0    S+     0:00      \_ grep artsd
[12:19] <neozen> alexicon: you using regular gnome?
[12:20] <alexicon> yep
[12:20] <preaction> samu: did you apt-get install build-essential ?
[12:20] <alexicon> i think i deleted some stuff on the desktop today.. but i didnt think that mattered
[12:20] <neozen> alexicon: try running gnome & from a terminal
[12:20] <adaptr> foug: okay, that looks like it's not running... I don';t remember if it's arts or esd in gnome, but if you have artsd, its a safe bet that that's the one
[12:20] <neozen> alexicon: the ampersand is important
[12:20] <adaptr> foug: run: which artsd
[12:20] <alexicon> gnome is already running though
[12:20] <neozen> alexicon: ok... restart it
[12:20] <sorcerer> foug:  wine whats that
[12:20] <belleke_> can someone help me with postfix?
[12:20] <samu> preaction, yep
[12:20] <neozen> alexicon: do you have panels?
[12:20] <ajehuk> gils - I'm just taking a look, but I am not sure what to suggest, you could in theory work around the problem by installing something like x11vnc, and then use that but, I am not usre how you would go about using your current set up to restart a session. sorry
[12:20] <foug> adaptr: /usr/bin/artsd
[12:20] <sorcerer> foug:  its just wine?>
[12:21] <foug> !wine | sorcerer
[12:21] <ubotu> sorcerer: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:21] <eck> !ask | belleke_
[12:21] <ubotu> belleke_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:21] <neozen> alexicon: those things at the top and bottom of your screen
[12:21] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - how is it going?
[12:21] <neozen> alexicon: they're white by default
[12:21] <san_diego_guy> hi everyone
[12:21] <alexicon> hrm its back now...
[12:21] <gils> ok thanks
[12:21] <surviver> hi
[12:21] <gils> its all good
[12:21] <preaction> samu: does ubuntu already have a package for the module you're trying to install?
[12:21] <alexicon> all that stuff was fine neozen. just the desktop didnt appear
[12:21] <sorcerer> nice thaks
[12:21] <alexicon> the actual jpg image, and none of the icons
[12:21] <cappicard> hrmm... anyone using a lexmark z515 printer under 64-bit ubuntu?
[12:21] <alexicon> panels and applications all ran fine @_@
[12:21] <sorcerer> has anyone tried warcraft 3 on ubuntu ?
[12:22] <san_diego_guy> i just installed Ubuntu for the first time last night (6.10) and spent a lot of time setting up my system
[12:22] <alexicon> anyway seems to be back to normal now so cheers :)
[12:22] <jhasse> sorcerer: yes, works fine
[12:22] <juancgt> would anyone know what module im not loading if my cpu throttling is set to the minimun and there is no way it would change to anything else?
[12:22] <sorcerer> you seriouse
[12:22] <neozen> alexicon: ::nods:: gnome probably flaked out for some reason... did something the kernel didn't like... so it killed then restarted it... probably just took awhile to take effect
[12:22] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: my ubuntu pc kinda hung up
[12:22] <jhasse> sorcerer: yes
[12:22] <alexicon> hehe
[12:22] <eck> juancgt: if it is set to the minimum everything should be loaded
[12:22] <neozen> alexicon: same thing happens in xfce when you kill xfdesktop
[12:22] <mokchin> uh... wine ugly
[12:22] <san_diego_guy> i'm coming from Windows XP and so far things look really good... the only thing i can't live without would be: World of Warcraft, Adobe PhotoShop and Lightroom
[12:22] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - that doesnt sound too good....
[12:22] <eck> if things weren't loaded it would be at the maximum
[12:22] <mokchin> uh.. vmware ugly...
[12:23] <sorcerer> jhasse: ower or faster
[12:23] <alexicon> i havent used gnome in a couple years, its quite nice actually
[12:23] <juancgt> eck: i meant, its a 2.0ghz chip and its running at 800mhz
[12:23] <neozen> mokchin: well.. them's the solutions...
[12:23] <foug> san_diego_guy: WoW runs, do a google search on "installing world of warcraft on ubuntu"
[12:23] <jhasse> sorcerer: as fast as running with windows
[12:23] <Tarkus> hey, i've been a windows user for many years, and i recently tried ubuntu linux, and i love the look and architecture of the OS. but i use a lot of windows only software like "Cakewalk Sonar", "Autodesk 3DS Max", and almost all "Adobe Software". would it be a good idea to dualboot linux/windows, and hope that those big companies would soon support linux? or would that never happen?
[12:23] <sorcerer> umm
[12:23] <eck> juancgt: yeah, that means cpu throttling is working. if the modules were not loaded it would be a 2.0 ghz
[12:23] <sorcerer> ok let me give it a shot
[12:23] <neozen> mokchin: if you want to natively run windows apps... you have to run windows
[12:23] <san_diego_guy> so i'm dual booting... but i do have a question... i'm using PSPad on Windows... a free editor that's really cool (supports multiple syntax markups, FTP support, etc.)  and equivalent for my new Ubuntu system?
[12:23] <mokchin> neozen, no. You can *NOT* play the game. Tell the *uckin vendor to supply proper game for Linux
[12:24] <Xteven> Tarkus: dualboot would be a good idea
[12:24] <ajehuk> san_diego_guy - gimp is abouy 90% complete as a replacement for photoshop - or you can use crossoveroffice / wine to run  photoshop if you feel inclined to
[12:24] <juancgt> eck: well i cant use cpufreq-selector, not edit scaling_max_freq for that matter
[12:24] <eck> san_diego_guy: you have a bunch of editors to choose from, as fara s grpahical ones are concerned jedit and gedit both have those features
[12:24] <Xteven> Tarkus: but hoping that commercial companies will build their software for linux, is a bit ambitious :)
[12:24] <neozen> mokchin: lol..... keep trying that.... when they see its PROFITABLE to do so... they will
[12:24] <Faugn> Tarkus: I think you can forget the "soon support"...
[12:24] <neozen> mokchin: have to make it worth their while
[12:24] <eck> juancgt: are you in gnome?
[12:24] <juancgt> eck: yes
[12:24] <Xteven> Tarkus: you ould always write to them and explain that you would buy their software for ubuntu/linux too. Maybe if they get enough requests, they'll start working on it
[12:24] <dwidmann> howdy people
[12:24] <Faugn> Tarkus: you can try to find alternatives
[12:25] <eck> juancgt: if so, add the cpu frequency scaling applet and it will let you choose the governor to use
[12:25] <mokchin> neozen, well, ~8 mil people play wow. still not convincing to them. *uck them.
[12:25] <juancgt> eck: that is based on cpufreq-selector, and as i said, it doesn't work
[12:25] <neozen> mokchin: I don't game much... too busy
[12:25] <jhasse> mokchin: wine isn't ugly.
[12:25] <belleke_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix  i do the reconfigure then i see run the following commands but i don't see any .what is it i don't get?
[12:25] <atselby> anyone here know where gnome session data is stored?
[12:25] <juancgt> eck: its just stuck at 800mhz no matter what -f or -g you use
[12:25] <Necrosan> Is it possible to get the face login in edgy?
[12:25] <san_diego_guy> could someone recommend a nice editor for PHP/HTML/ASP on my new Ubuntu system?  should support multiple syntax marking, tab for different files, and most importantly, FTP support... anything like that for Edgy?
[12:26] <ajehuk> san_diego_guy take a lok at nvu and bluefish, although I personally I use kate and a xterm, (kate is a kde tet editor with syntax higlighting, it has ftp support but i tend to use xterm for ftp) it may not be pretty but its very efficient
[12:26] <neozen> mokchin: when I do.... its older text adventures..... or console emulation... both of which work just great in linux
[12:26] <jhasse> Does someone know a program to rip a DVD to Xvid?
[12:26] <Necrosan> (with an ubuntuized theme?)
[12:26] <eck> juancgt: i have done it before, now i can't remember what i did
[12:26] <ajehuk> jhasse dvdrip
[12:26] <neozen> jhasse: dvd::rip
[12:26] <mokchin> neozen, ok goodluck with that.
[12:26] <Faugn> jhasse: mencoder
[12:26] <mokchin> neozen, :)
[12:26] <neozen> jhasse: get ready for a looooong read
[12:26] <juancgt> eck: ok
[12:26] <adaptr> foug: still here ? see if esd is running
[12:26] <Necrosan> Anyone?
[12:26] <foug> adaptr: how
[12:27] <adaptr> foug: ps fax | grep esd
[12:27] <jhasse> thx, i will try
[12:27] <neozen> Faugn: done much work w/ the mencoder in the multiverse?
[12:27] <Necrosan> Feisty face login in edgy
[12:27] <Necrosan> How do I do it?
[12:27] <foug> adaptr: want me to tell you what it gave me?
[12:27] <dwidmann> has anybody in here (by chance) played with pdnsd before? I'm having a bit of difficulty configuring it (properly (I think))
[12:27] <Faugn> neozen: nope
[12:27] <neozen> Faugn: ah
[12:27] <deserteagle> help! D=
[12:27] <Faugn> havn't ripped a DVD in a long time
[12:27] <samu> preaction, I might have managed to solve the problem. Seems like the make option in cpan was blank for some reason.
[12:27] <deserteagle> ok so i got a new monitor, but x won't start
[12:27] <neozen> Faugn: neither have I
[12:28] <adaptr> foug: well, if it gave you anything but the grep then it's running
[12:28] <neozen> well... dvd audio yes.... video no
[12:28] <foug>  4662 ?        S      0:00  \_ /usr/bin/esd -terminate -nobeeps -as 1 -spawnfd 19
[12:28] <foug>  5706 pts/0    S+     0:00      \_ grep esd
[12:28] <Zie> can someone point me in the right direction, for a linux C++ Tutorial.
[12:28] <eck> Zie: buy a book
[12:28] <neozen> foug: AH ..don't paste in terminal please
[12:28] <ajehuk> dwidmann - Ive come accross it ( but havent done much with it... - prefer to use bind)
[12:28] <Zie> whats that?
[12:28] <Necrosan> Can someone point me in the right direction to get the feisty face login theme on edgy?
[12:28] <foug> sorry half of it was a tell the other half went here
[12:28] <foug> guess it was too big
[12:28] <neozen> !paste >foug
[12:28] <fuzzy_logic> hello world
[12:28] <eck> Zie: you are going to be lost if you try to do any systems programming without a book
[12:28] <dwidmann> ajehuk: I've been using dnsmasq up til now with a good bit of success, but its caching isn't permanent
[12:28] <Zie> cout << "hellowordl\n";
[12:28] <deserteagle> fuzzy_logic: compilation error
[12:29] <deserteagle> :P
[12:29] <neozen> fuzzy_logic: hello fuzzy
[12:29] <Zie> ok, well whats a bool
[12:29] <xyz-abc> neozen: (or ajehuk) can I share files via VNC?
[12:29] <adaptr> foug: so it's running - can you open the alsamixer GUI ?
[12:29] <Edulix> hi!
[12:29] <preaction> !offtopic | Zie
[12:29] <ubotu> Zie: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:29] <fuzzy_logic> when i connect my laptop to my samsung tv/monitor it says "Mode not supported", anyone ideas why?
[12:29] <deserteagle> Zie: www.google.com/search?q=linux+c+tutorial
[12:29] <adaptr> foug: or perhaps restart it (log out and back in)
[12:29] <fuzzy_logic> lol@deserteagle
[12:29] <Faugn> xyz-abc: no
[12:29] <fuzzy_logic> hi neozen
[12:29] <ajehuk> dwidmann - no I looked at it for laptops - then realised there wasnt much point as the boxes usualy had broadband access - even on the road...
[12:29] <xyz-abc> k thanks
[12:29] <Necrosan> Can someone point me in the right direction to get the feisty face login theme on edgy?
[12:29] <deserteagle> fuzzy_logic: wrong resolution?
[12:29] <Tarkus> Xteven, Faugn, alright. i think ill still install it for the sake of learning/using linux. i have a question on dual-boot setup though. because right now i have a dualboot with vista/XP and i want to remove the XP and replace with ubuntu. so do i just format that partition and install ubuntu on it? and it will make a boot menu change from xp/vista to ubuntu/vista? or is there something that i need to do to get the boot menu to wor
[12:29] <Tarkus> k like that?
[12:29] <ferronica> Unable to find swap-signature signature ubuntu 6.10
[12:29] <Zie> ok thanks
[12:30] <dwidmann> ajehuk: I have a broadband connection too, just the latency can be a bit rediculous at times.
[12:30] <deserteagle> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't help :(
[12:30] <foug> adaptr: how do i open alsa in terminal again?
[12:30] <Pierre2> is it possible to have tripple boot? just wonder :P
[12:30] <foug> yes
[12:30] <deserteagle> Pierre2: yes
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> Pierre2: Yep
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> or more
[12:30] <dwidmann> Pierre2: It's possible to have a [insert huge number here]  boot system .....
[12:30] <Pierre2> okay, so i just install it on a new partition?
[12:30] <Edulix> I'm having rendering problems when watching videos in vlc and totem
[12:31] <fuzzy_logic> deserteagle: so you suggest to change the resolution on my laptop before connecting to the monitor? won't my laptop give me trouble then?
[12:31] <tonyyarusso> Pierre2: ya
[12:31] <sizzam> is there a linux command to see the details of the RAM in this machine?
[12:31] <Pierre2> sweet thx
[12:31] <Edulix> see this (totem) http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/337/tempzf4.png and compare to kaffeine: http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3168/temp1er3.png
[12:31] <eck> sizzam: free -m
[12:31] <ajehuk> dwidmann : fair enough (if DNS info is something that you want to cache then go for it!) but as I said I havent played with it much, more a quick install and look at... whats the issue you have with it?
[12:31] <Pierre2> will install tommorrow then
[12:31] <[Eulo] > Hey, i
[12:31] <foug> adaptr: how do i open alsa in terminal again?
[12:31] <Edulix> (well in kafeeine that film display a strange green line, that's why I ask instead of just using kaffeine)
[12:31] <Pierre2> just installed on laptop just for fun but i really start to like it
[12:31] <adaptr> alsamixer or amixer
[12:31] <sizzam> eck: how about how many sticks i have, the speed, etc?
[12:31] <Faugn> Tarkus: ubuntu install should add the right entries in the boot loader
[12:31] <eck> sizzam: use the number in the -/+ buffers/cache: for the used value
[12:32] <foug> adaptr: k i have to afk a bit but i'll try this and a restart out then come back
[12:32] <adaptr> np
[12:32] <[Eulo] > err, Hey, i'm having issues with TiLP recognizing my TI89. I Checked the error log and got it down to where it reconizes it, but it says that it's busy, "ticables: err: usb_set_configuration (could not set config 1: Device or resource busy)"
[12:32] <[Eulo] > any ideas?
[12:32] <eck> sizzam: i would just open up the computer and check, but i am sure there is something buried deep in /proc that will tell you
[12:32] <sizzam> eck: k, thanks
[12:32] <Tarkus> Faugn, alright, thanks.
[12:33] <deserteagle> so... anyone care to help? :D
[12:33] <neozen> farewell all
[12:33] <Pierre2> i have an gefore (nvidia) 6600 and saw on a swedish ubuntu forum that theres some graphic error btw, how will it work?
[12:33] <deserteagle> windows detected it just fine and put it at 1920x1200 (recommended monitor res)
[12:33] <redDEAD> how do i get rid of the splash screen in ubuntu? After I log in I don't want to know whats loading I already know whats loading
[12:34] <deserteagle> redDEAD: check the Sessions thingie
[12:34] <deserteagle> anyone? :(
[12:34] <Faugn> deserteagle: you could try X -configure, to generate a new configuration
[12:34] <xyz-abc> THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:34] <Pierre2> by the way, is an firewall and antivirus needed? my mate dont use it atleast. what about u?
[12:34] <xyz-abc> THANK YOU ajehuk and neozen!!
[12:34] <mxpxpod> what is the difference between all the different linux-image-* packages... specifically between linux-image-generic, linux-image-686, and linux-image-server
[12:34] <deserteagle> Faugn: i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it didn't help
[12:34] <eck> redDEAD: the gnome splash screen?
[12:35] <redDEAD> deserteagle, in edgy its a box in feisty there no option in sessions
[12:35] <redDEAD> eck, yes the gnome splash screen
[12:35] <Faugn> deserteagle: try X -configure, hopefully, it will detect your hardware, and generate a xorg.congf
[12:35] <eck> redDEAD: if you open up gconf-editor there is a key somewhere to turn it off
[12:35] <deserteagle> Faugn: failed to initialize core devices
[12:35] <Faugn> in the directory where you launched it
[12:36] <eck> redDEAD: apps > gnome-session > options
[12:36] <jhasse> mxpxpod: that's for different processors
[12:36] <Xteven> is there a tool I can use to keep an eye on my system health ? processor temperature, disk activity, network activity, system load, ... and that keeps a history for me ? something like mrtg maybe, but integrated into ubuntu desktop
[12:36] <whonicca> when does feisty fawn stable come out?
[12:36] <eck> whonicca: april 19
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> whonicca: approx.
[12:36] <whonicca> approx =\
[12:36] <mxpxpod> jhasse: right, is there a list somewhere telling which processors they're for? and what the server one does?
[12:36] <[Eulo] > Anyone even play with TiLP and seen an error like that?
[12:37] <sorcerer> running wine or installing is there any benisit for me ?
[12:37] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: Both PC's can see each other now, but I can only retrieve files from the XP PC onto the Ubuntu PC, not vice versa (it says that Ubuntu doesnt accept remote connections)
[12:37] <Faugn> deserteagle: weird, and with: X -configure -allowMouseOpenFail
[12:37] <Faugn> ?
[12:37] <hikenboot> hello all _ I am running fiesty but someone here would probably know..is there a boot time reducing project meant for ubuntu
[12:37] <sorcerer> oh and i have a camera .. and i wanna plug it through usb .. how do i tell ubuntu to mount it or even recodnize it
[12:37] <Beyond_The_Grave> 
[12:38] <Necrosan> Can someone point me in the right direction to get the feisty face login theme on edgy?
[12:38] <jhasse> mxpxpod: k7 = AMD athlon xp 686 = pentium and amd
[12:38] <odat> i am having a strange problem with openoffice the toolbar icons are missing and words are in their place
[12:38] <ajehuk> xyz-abc: looking good then, that will be  a permissions issue - did you mount manually u the command I gave you or some other way?
[12:38] <deserteagle> Faugn: nope :(
[12:38] <eck> hikenboot: i don't think so... that was a focus for edgy i think, and they cleaned up all the init scripts at that time
[12:38] <jhasse> mxpxpod: but i dunno know what server is, maybe some processors like opteron
[12:38] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: using the command you gave me..
[12:38] <Faugn> deserteagle: :|
[12:38] <eck> hikenboot: i think right now it is pretty good, if you want to suggest improvements you can file a bug in launchpad of course
[12:38] <atselby_> can anyone help me with this problem. "your session only lasted less than 10 seconds". something with ~/.xorg i think
[12:38] <sorcerer> YOU ARE A FAGGOT
[12:39] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: Thanks man
[12:39] <sorcerer> SORRY
[12:39] <atselby_> i have an error message and can not post via pastebin..
[12:39] <sorcerer> kdding
[12:39] <assasukasse> when i try to tunnel vnc tru ssh i get the following error:  channel 3: open failed: connect failed: connection refused
[12:39] <sorcerer> wrong box
[12:39] <eck> atselby_: look at ~/.xsession-errors
[12:39] <assasukasse> how can i debug it
[12:39] <ferronica> Unable to find swap-signature signature ubuntu 6.10
[12:39] <atselby_> eck: it generates one and gave me it just now. how can i tell what it means?
[12:39] <ompaul> lag is dreadful
[12:39] <Jowi> sorcerer, what does that mean: "you are a cigarette"?
[12:39] <ferronica> Unable to find swap-space signature ubuntu 6.10
[12:39] <mxpxpod> jhasse: know where I could find information about that?
[12:39] <jhasse> mxpxpod: oh, k7 is also for other AMD processors like duron, sempron and athlon 64
[12:39] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - I didnt specfy any mask as to the mounted remote share, so you may find that the only way to get data to the windows box atm is to do so as root...
[12:39] <ferronica> Unable to find swap-space signature (ubuntu 6.10)
[12:39] <atselby_> eck: i would pastebin it but no browser is wanting to start.
[12:39] <atselby_> !pastebin
[12:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:40] <deserteagle> Faugn: not registered so i cant pm you
[12:40] <sorcerer> Jowi:  NO  i typeds it in the wrong box sorry
[12:40] <sorcerer> my bad
[12:40] <Pierre2> gotta ask, wich version does beryl work on?
[12:40] <Faugn> deserteagle: ha
[12:40] <jhasse> mxpxpod: try to search at http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:40] <eck> atselby_: look towards the end of the file for errors
[12:40] <LasoL> hi
[12:40] <eck> atselby_: probably at the end there will be some fatal error
[12:40] <atselby_> eck: nevermind i got pastebin working. you want the message?
[12:40] <eck> atselby_: sure
[12:40] <d00d__> whats the package called in ubuntu 6.06 for perl dev
[12:40] <sorcerer> if i connect usb ... devices how do i retrive infomation from it on ubuntu ??
[12:40] <atselby_> eck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15683/
[12:40] <odat> i am having a strange problem with openoffice the toolbar icons are missing and words are in their place
[12:41] <atselby_> eck: i would go in and change the session for startup but the dialoug is not opening.
[12:41] <striketd> yo
[12:41] <ajehuk> dwidmann : yeah I guess the server section may be. ah important... :) - I thought that the fails may have been more to do with your box querying multiple DNS servers.... but hey
[12:41] <Faugn> deserteagle: /msg NickServ register <pass>
[12:41] <deserteagle> Faugn: all modules except: dbe, record and v4l
[12:41] <sorcerer> i have a sony camera and i want to take pics out of it .. how do i make sure it shows on ubuntu ??
[12:41] <ompaul> sorcerer, that is not how we suggest people behave: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[12:41] <eck> atselby_: that is the very end of the file?
[12:42] <striketd> http://stdproject.forall.pl/test-0001.mpeg (backdoor for winshit / gui for linux) :D get ready billy billy shit
[12:42] <fuzzy_logic> hi im back
[12:42] <atselby_> eck: that is the end of what was generated. let me check file.
[12:42] <ferronica> swap problem
[12:43] <Faugn> deserteagle: other than changing monitor, you didn't do anything?
[12:43] <Chai_Sangeen> hello everyone
[12:43] <fuzzy_logic> how can i set my resolution to 1366x768??
[12:43] <atselby_> isnt /.xsession-errors in my home/
[12:43] <ferronica> my swap is not working
[12:43] <Faugn> atselby_: yes
[12:43] <Pierre2> why the hell are u doing backdoors for windows?
[12:44] <deserteagle> Faugn: changed xorg.conf to add the res of the new monitor
[12:44] <atselby_> faugn: i dont see it then.
[12:44] <Brush01uk> Hi Chai_Sangeen
[12:44] <atselby_> faugn: and yes, i have hidden views on
[12:44] <agent_> Does anyone know what manufacturers make ultra-portable (12-13" screen) laptops with trackpoints besides IBM/Lenovo?
[12:44] <ferronica> Unable to find swap-space signature (ubuntu 6.10)
[12:44] <atselby_> found it.
[12:45] <atselby_> nevermind.
[12:45] <Faugn> ferronica: what does 'swapon -s' says?
[12:45] <ajehuk> ferronica - you may need to do a mkswap /dev/whatever
[12:45] <atselby_> eck: yes thats the whole file.
[12:45] <Faugn> deserteagle: and if you revert it works, but not with the resolution you want?
[12:45] <Faugn> atselby_: you use .xinitrc or .xsession?
[12:45] <ferronica> Faugn: no output
[12:46] <dustin> how do i remove a file from my source list that is mesing up my updates
[12:46] <Faugn> atselby_: have you set executable rights?
[12:46] <atselby_> faugn: .xsession
[12:46] <atselby_> faugn: for what?
[12:46] <fuzzy_logic> Faugn: i think i have the same problem as deserteagle.. can you help me?
[12:46] <ferronica> ajehuk: how?
[12:46] <cappicard> hmm... where do I find about issues with printing on 64-bit systems?
[12:46] <Faugn> atselby_: .xsession, what it is the firt line also?
[12:46] <Ninja> Hey I'm installing Ubuntu on my PC right now, it's my first time installing Linux.
[12:46] <ferronica> Faugn: now what i do
[12:46] <fuzzy_logic> Faugn: my monitor has a resolution of 1366x768, i edited the xorg.conf file but that didn't help
[12:46] <lizalo--> Ninja: firsto f all go bang ur head against a wall a bit k?
[12:46] <atselby_> faugn: whole file of .xsession-errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15683/
[12:46] <Faugn> ferronica: sudo fdisk -l
[12:47] <lizalo--> Ninja: prepare your head =))) it gonna hurd good k?
[12:47] <lizalo--> hurt**
[12:47] <lizalo--> i need help
[12:47] <lizalo--> Signature Algorithm ((R)SA or (D)SA) [R] :
[12:47] <lizalo--> what is that crap
[12:47] <Faugn> atselby_: and the content of .xsession?
[12:47] <lizalo--> STEP 0: Decide the signature algorithm used for certificates
[12:47] <Brush01uk> Ninja  Good luck & Enjoy :-)
[12:47] <lizalo--> ninja: dont give up! .. thats all i gota say to ya
[12:47] <andre_pl> does anyone here use gnome-osd at all? I've been using it for a while, but in the past couple of days its stopped working on my second display, if DISPLAY=":0.1" i get a dbus error, but if its :0.0 it works fine.
[12:48] <lizalo--> and of course good luck hehe
[12:48] <atselby_> faugn: non existant.
[12:48] <lizalo--> can some one tel lme what
[12:48] <eck> lizalo--: it doesn't matter, just choose 1
[12:48] <Ninja> I'm trying to properly partition my hard drive so I don't fuck up Windows
[12:48] <ajehuk> ferronica - if you paste the contents of your /etc/fstab file into a pastebin (http://pastebin.ca) I can give you a better idea, however, the general idea is to run sudo mkswap /dev/swapdevice (where /dev/swapdevide is the partition you have allocated as swap)
[12:48] <lizalo--> Signature Algorithm ((R)SA or (D)SA) [R] :
[12:48] <ferronica> Faugn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15685/
[12:48] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, one way might to be using "gtf" in a terminal and create a mode line in xorg.conf. depends on your hardware. if all else fail see !resolution
[12:48] <nitneuq> hi all, does someone here know what sort of program i could use to record my screen for tutorials ?
[12:48] <Jowi> !resolution | fuzzy_logic
[12:48] <ubotu> fuzzy_logic: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:48] <Faugn> atselby_: you don't have a .xsession or .xinitrc? what type of session do you select at login?
[12:48] <andre_pl> nitneuq: festival
[12:49] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: thanks will try that
[12:49] <atselby_> faugn: just normal.
[12:49] <jrib> nitneuq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts
[12:49] <ferronica> ajehuk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15686/
[12:49] <atselby_> faugn: or last session. what ever is defaul.t
[12:49] <Faugn> ferronica: sudo swapon /dev/hda5
[12:49] <nitneuq> thanks a lot andre_pl and jrib
[12:49] <d00d__> someone check this error please :
[12:49] <d00d__> http://pastebin.ca/440282
[12:50] <jesus_> hola
[12:50] <Faugn> atselby_: what does hostname repport?
[12:50] <ajehuk> ferronica : sudo mkswap /dev/hda5 && sudo swapon /dev/hda5
[12:50] <ferronica> Faugn: swapon: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument
[12:50] <atselby_> faugn: as a command?
[12:50] <atselby_> faugn: hostname : adam
[12:51] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: i did this: fuzzy@FUZZNET:~$ gtf 1366 768 60
[12:51] <fuzzy_logic>    is that ok? what do i have to do now?
[12:51] <Faugn> ferronica: you can try what ajehuk says, this will recreate the swap on the specified partition, don't screw up the device name!
[12:51] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, example: "gtf 1366 768 60 -x" and paste it into xorg.conf (see the man page). you need to rename "1368x768_60.00" to "1368x768" though since it is not a valid name....
[12:51] <ferronica> Faugn: okay
[12:51] <ajehuk> d00d__ - looking
[12:51] <Faugn> atselby_: and what do you have in /etc/hosts?
[12:51] <atselby_> faugn: let me  check.
[12:51] <ferronica> ajehuk: Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 1653243 kB
[12:51] <ferronica> no label, UUID=d0ed8e02-157c-4f81-8324-15f5d6be4235
[12:52] <ferronica> ajehuk: After that?
[12:52] <eck> Faugn: i do not think having the wrong hostname will be a fatal error
[12:52] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: i got this:   # 1368x768 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 47.70 kHz; pclk: 85.86 MHz
[12:52] <fuzzy_logic>   Modeline "1368x768_60.00"  85.86  1368 1440 1584 1800  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
[12:52] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: do i have to rename now? how do i do that?
[12:52] <Faugn> eck: I already had some problem with something like that with gnome
[12:52] <Faugn> don't remember how I corrected it
[12:52] <atselby_> faugn: i too had a problem with hosts before but it looks fine. contetns at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15687/
[12:53] <knoppix> hola
[12:53] <Faugn> ferronica: now, you need to edit /etc/fstab
[12:53] <maverick_hunter> anyone know how to get a wireless card recognized in ubuntu 5.10?
[12:53] <Faugn> ferronica: look for a line like this: UUID=673d912d-a068-4661-93d5-c7f4c98fe58f none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:53] <d00d__> full paste http://pastebin.ca/440293
[12:53] <Faugn> ferronica: and change the UUID to the one mkswap gave you
[12:53] <fuzzy_logic> maverick_hunter: maybe silly but to me logical question, why not first upgrade to 6.04?
[12:53] <knoppix> hola carola
[12:53] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, here's an example (that i use myself): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15688/
[12:54] <maverick_hunter> i need wireless to upgrade! its my only connection!
[12:54] <ferronica> Faugn: okay
[12:54] <ajehuk> ferronica - Faugn seems to be sorting you out, I'll but out :)
[12:54] <knoppix> bueno heno
[12:54] <Faugn> atselby_: try adding adam to the localhost line
[12:54] <h4writer> hi, got a question. I got a list, where I append some values with append(). How can make sure when I append it doens't append twice the same value?
[12:54] <maverick_hunter> so do you think you can help me?
[12:55] <knoppix> valgame la osa
[12:55] <atselby_> faugn: okay.
[12:55] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: i guess i only need the modelines of Section "Monitor"?
[12:55] <knoppix> ok chau chau
[12:55] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, simply copy the modeline into xorg.conf Section "Monitor", I renamed mine from "1280x1024_60.00" to "1280x1024" and also put that resolution into the Section "Screen"
[12:55] <atselby_> faugn: and reboot no?
[12:55] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, yep.
[12:56] <ferronica> Faugn: ok done
[12:56] <ferronica> Faugn: after this
[12:56] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: what are these for?: 108.88  1280 1360 1496 1712  1024 1025 1028 1060 -HSync +Vsync.. do i need them too?
[12:56] <Faugn> atselby_: retry to login I think
[12:56] <atselby_> faugn: okay
[12:57] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, copy the whole output of gtf
[12:57] <maverick_hunter> anyone know how to get a wireless card recognized in ubuntu 5.10?
[12:57] <holycow> plug it in
[12:57] <holycow> either its supported or its not
[12:57] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, those numbers are magic :)
[12:57] <holycow> make sure you buy one that is supported
[12:57] <Faugn> ferronica: now, you should be able to reboot and have the swap partition automatically activated
[12:57] <h4writer> I want something like that: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15689/ But I don't want to write the 'if'-line the whole time
[12:57] <ferronica> Faugn: ok
[12:57] <atselby> faugn: no luck.
[12:57] <Generation> hey guys I have a question, I did something wrong with my computer, I dont know what but every time I go into a "game"  It like crawls,  what should  Ido
[12:57] <atselby> faugn: different output of -errors though
[12:58] <maverick_hunter> so if it cant find it atuomatically im fucked?
[12:58] <atselby> !pastebin
[12:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:58] <Generation> I think I downloaded drivers for it already
[12:58] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: ohhh.. now i've got it.. i have to copy the output :) sorry.. its late :P
[12:58] <Faugn> atselby: can you paste it?
[12:58] <atselby> faugn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15690/
[12:58] <atselby> faugn: looks like its graphicrelated now which poitns to beryl..
[12:58] <foka> what s the command  for the trash bin?
[12:59] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, the output o # 1368x768 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 47.70 kHz; pclk: 85.86 MHz [new line]   Modeline "1368x768_60.00"  85.86  1368 1440 1584 1800  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync. "1368x768_60.00" is not a valid name though. rename it to "1368x768" and you should be set
[12:59] <jrib> foka: nautilus trash:///
[12:59] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: like this?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15691/
[12:59] <foka> thanks
[12:59] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, perfect. now add "1258x768" to the Screen section
[01:00] <ProN00b> anyone knows where i can get a rubygems package for ubuntu ?
[01:00] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: why 1258x768?
[01:00] <jasburke> hi i need help my sound stop working
[01:00] <Generation> does any know how to get graphics to no "skip"
[01:00] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, sorry, i meant 1368x768
[01:00] <fuzzy_logic> jasburke: dont ask to ask.. just ask :)
[01:01] <jasburke> well my sound stop woking how can i fix it
[01:01] <ajehuk> dwidmann : wouldnt it be easier to set up bind to cache?
[01:01] <Lbawinowns> whhat was that room called that was about programmming in ubuntu?
[01:01] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: you mean 1366x768? cause that's the resolution of my monitor
[01:01] <atselby> faugn: anything?
[01:02] <foxiness> Lbawinowns: ubuntu-progtamming
[01:02] <ompaul> Lbawinowns, can you be more specific
[01:02] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, use the actual name. if "gtf" gave you "1368x768" that is what you should use.
[01:02] <Lbawinowns> t foxi
[01:02] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, see the modeline you pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15691/
[01:03] <foxiness> Lbawinowns: np
[01:03] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: should i change something at that modeline? or what do i need to do? dont really get u
[01:03] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, paste your full xorg.conf and I will modify it for you
[01:03] <foka> where s the best place to catch some themes?
[01:03] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: I need to set it up in fstab so my windows share gets mounted everytime. Also, can you explain about the "mask"?
[01:04] <Faugn> atselby: running out of ideas :P
[01:04] <ajehuk> dwidmann : - no thinking right - you need it to be persistant after a reboot dont you...
[01:04] <atselby> faugn: XD
[01:05] <blergh> qwe
[01:05] <Lbawinowns> Anyone here uses lazarus?
[01:05] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - thats no problem, can you post your entire fstab, into a pastebin - I'll take a look at it, mod it and leave you an explanation..
[01:05] <xyz-abc> k
[01:05] <ProN00b> anyone knows where i can get a rubygems package for ubuntu ?
[01:05] <eck> xyz-abc: the mask if the file creation mask -- it sets what permissions files are created with
[01:05] <foxiness> ompaul: hey :)
[01:05] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: here you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15693/
[01:05] <Faugn> atselby: if you use another session type it works alright?
[01:06] <ompaul> foxiness, hi
[01:06] <foug> adaptr: sound still isn't working
[01:06] <ShiftyPowers> can I use a Edgy live cd to recover grub on a feisty installation?
[01:06] <Faugn> ProN00b: what do you mean?
[01:06] <ShiftyPowers> shouldn't be an issue right?
[01:06] <atselby> faugn: no oddly enough gnome failsafe doesnt work.
[01:06] <ShiftyPowers> i'm reinstalling windows xp
[01:06] <atselby> faugn: i get the same "less than 10 seconds" dialoug.
[01:06] <eck> ShiftyPowers: use the edgy live cd to chroot into the feisty installation and reinstall grub
[01:06] <ProN00b> Faugn, a apt package for rubygems...
[01:06] <fuzzy_logic> ShiftyPowers: yes
[01:06] <Faugn> atselby: same errors log?
[01:06] <eck> ShiftyPowers: so yes, it is ifne
[01:06] <foxiness> ProN00b: you need to use the tar one
[01:06] <atselby> faugn: i can check but i think so.
[01:06] <ShiftyPowers> cool
[01:06] <Faugn> ProN00b: there is a package
[01:07] <ShiftyPowers> just checking
[01:07] <ShiftyPowers> thanks guys
[01:07] <Faugn> dpkg --list|grep rubygems
[01:07] <atselby> brb than
[01:07] <Faugn> ii  rubygems                                   0.9.0-5                                    package management framework for Ruby librar
[01:07] <ShiftyPowers> PS: windows vista is a POS
[01:07] <ShiftyPowers> so going back to XP for gaming
[01:07] <foug> can someone help please? my sound is working for no reason it seems...
[01:07] <ProN00b> Faugn, i don't know what you are smoking, but in current stable ubuntu, there is none...
[01:07] <clearzen> How do you specify what port rsync is recieving information on?
[01:07] <ins-dragonclaw> ...okay. how long is sudo apt-get update supposed to take?
[01:07] <Faugn> ProN00b: I use feisty
[01:07] <d00d__> http://pastebin.ca/440311
[01:07] <foug> it was working no more than 12 hours ago, and now it has stopped
[01:07] <ins-dragonclaw> i'm at 15 packages already
[01:07] <ProN00b> Faugn, gee, didn't you know feisty was stull testing ?
[01:07] <Faugn> ProN00b: and you have enabled multiverse?
[01:07] <ProN00b> yes...
[01:08] <ProN00b> *still btw
[01:08] <Eerilun> I wanna change some stuff that Ubuntu is not letting me do. I use Ubuntu Server Edition and want to adjust DNS stuff etc..
[01:08] <foxiness> ProN00b: you need to get the source package for this gem
[01:08] <Eerilun> root@server now
[01:08] <ProN00b> foxiness, but i don't want to pollute my system with something not packaged
[01:08] <ins-dragonclaw> elvis has left the building...
[01:08] <atselby> faugn: same thing on gnome and gnome-failsafe
[01:09] <Faugn> clearzen: with the --port option
[01:09] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: r u there?
[01:09] <foxiness> pronoob this is a package manager like apt-get
[01:09] <foug> help please? sound not working. I've checked through terminal and everything is there and seems ok, everything is plugged in. Sound blaster 16bit pci
[01:09] <Steve_> #blade3d
[01:09] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15694/ (see, the modeline name in section "monitor" and the mode in Section "screen" need to match)
[01:09] <atselby> im thinking that this is related to the kernel update from earlier today thats been causing problems.
[01:09] <atselby> however it didnt do anything earlier.
[01:09] <Faugn> atselby: really no more ideas...
[01:09] <clearzen> Faugn: I think I have to change it on the sender's side now that I think about it. thanks though
[01:09] <foxiness> ProN00b: http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/RailsOnUbuntu see this
[01:10] <ProN00b> foxiness, i know what it is, but there is no reason why i shouldn't be able to get this in a package
[01:10] <atselby> faugn: k. i guess ill just wait around for this fix for the kernel....
[01:10] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15695
[01:10] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: thanks.. i edited xorg.conf
[01:10] <ins-dragonclaw> Does anyone know how to encode OGG files in Ubuntu?
[01:10] <foxiness> ProN00b: "Since Rubygems has the potential to disrupt package management it is not currently packaged for Debian and, by extension, Ubuntu."
[01:10] <yissel> install beryl on 5.10... any help????????
[01:10] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, I hope that will work for you when you restart Xorg. if not, I'm afraid you will have to look at nvidia specific docs. *cross finger*
[01:10] <Faugn> ProN00b: you can use the RUBYLIB env var, to install packages in you home
[01:11] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: brb
[01:11] <NBrepresen1> hi, i'm wondering, is there any way to modify the default behaviour of nautilus of putting ftp sites on the desktop?
[01:11] <Faugn> that's what I do for the one not provided by ubuntu, or mine
[01:11] <ins-dragonclaw> *waits*
[01:11] <EvilDennisR> ins-dragonclaw: Que?
[01:11] <ProN00b> guess ruby isn't really ready for primetime yet
[01:11] <ins-dragonclaw> oops
[01:11] <yissel> anybody?
[01:11] <EvilDennisR> yissel: Que?
[01:12] <idefix> how does ubuntu load the usbcore module? does udev do that?
[01:12] <ins-dragonclaw> I want to encode .wav to .ogg in ubuntu. how difficult can that be?
[01:12] <yissel> EvilDennisR, installing beryl on 5.10 breezy
[01:12] <Generation> How do you get the video in games to no  be choppy
[01:12] <Faugn> ins-dragonclaw: using sound-juicer, or directly with oggenc
[01:12] <ins-dragonclaw> oggenc don't exist
[01:12] <ins-dragonclaw> at all
[01:12] <yissel> EvilDennisR, anyideas
[01:12] <diego_cl> how can i set ubuntu to open .doc files with abiword ???
[01:13] <foxiness> ompaul: can i send you a pm ?
[01:13] <ins-dragonclaw> or even better: How do i get rhythmbox to play mp3s?
[01:13] <Faugn> ins-dragonclaw: you have vorbis-tools installed?
[01:13] <jasburke> ok it say that another device is useing the sound but i restarted my computer and even shut it down
[01:13] <EvilDennisR> yissel: Never heard of beryl
[01:13] <yissel> ok
[01:13] <Shaba1> speaking of abword
[01:13] <jasburke> and still no sound
[01:13] <yissel> thanx anyway
[01:13] <jasburke> can anyone help
[01:13] <ompaul> foxiness, you can - but I am busy so I can try to reply there might be big gaps
[01:13] <foug> help please? sound not working. I've checked through terminal and everything is there and seems ok, everything is plugged in. Sound blaster 16bit pci
[01:13] <vox754> !sound
[01:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:13] <Powerking89670> How do I upgrade my Ubuntu installation w/o burning a completely new disk
[01:13] <Shaba1> is there a similare small footprint spreadsheet and database for linux/ubuntu?
[01:13] <ins-dragonclaw> Faugn: No idea
[01:14] <Jowi> !upgrade | Powerking89670
[01:14] <ubotu> Powerking89670: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:14] <foxiness> ompaul: its long time not see you on irc
[01:14] <Powerking89670> thank you
[01:14] <Faugn> ins-dragonclaw: sudo apt-get install vorbis-tools
[01:14] <ins-dragonclaw> apt-getting
[01:14] <tuvwx> where can i get gcc-4.0 and g++-4.0 for ubuntu?
[01:14] <NBrepresen1> in nautilus, is there anyway to modify the behaviour of putting ftp sites on your desktop? i want to have a lot of ftp sites, so it would be way too many icons...
[01:14] <variant> anyone know how to make web tv work on sites that do detection to see if you have microsoft media player?
[01:14] <variant> like this: http://www.aftonbladet.se/atv2/detection.html
[01:14] <ins-dragonclaw> Done
[01:15] <variant> saknas = missing
[01:15] <xyz-abc> ajehuk!
[01:15] <Faugn> tuvwx: isn't there a package? gcc-4.0
[01:15] <Chai_Sangeen> is there a way to not show any icons on the desktop ?
[01:15] <Faugn> (I have it on feisty, don't know about edgy)
[01:15] <tuvwx> Faugn, no
[01:15] <ins-dragonclaw> GUYS. How do i get rhythmbox to play mp3s?
[01:15] <foxiness> ProN00b: do not let something like that stop you from use ruby
[01:16] <tuvwx> Faugn, there are only gcc and gcc-4.1, and both are version 4.1.1
[01:16] <gnychis> what tool can i use for wireless networks to connect easily? where i can view all of the wireless networks my wireless card sees?
[01:16] <tuvwx> Faugn, actually there is gcc-4.0, but there isn't g++-4.0
[01:16] <ProN00b> foxiness, then what should i let myself stop from using ruby by ? i mean disrupting package management is pretty serious
[01:16] <Faugn> tuvwx: and you need 4.0?
[01:17] <tuvwx> Faugn, exactly
[01:17] <Faugn> tuvwx: compile it yourself :)
[01:17] <ProN00b> hey, everyone here, do you also think disrupting package management sounds like a good idea ?
[01:17] <ins-dragonclaw> oi
[01:17] <Powerking89670> thank you, upgradeing now :D
[01:17] <Faugn> ProN00b: again, you may not have to disrupt it
[01:17] <ins-dragonclaw> now i need to decode mp3's...
[01:18] <cecko> Hi guys, anybody has an idea how to force-eject cd drive? I need to change install.CD but wineserver is holding the drive
[01:18] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: im back.. grr.. first the system hang 2 times at startup, after that i saw that i still couldn't choose 1366x768 at the res prefs..
[01:18] <fuzzy_logic> !resolution
[01:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:18] <gene6482> hey everyone, i'm trying to get my sound working, been trying all day with no luck, i'm using snd-hda-intel, and it appears like it should be working, but is not, i've tried everything i could find, via the forums, etc, please help
[01:18] <eck> cecko: use the fuser command
[01:18] <eck> cecko: e.g. fuser -k some_file_on_the_drive
[01:19] <gnychis> whats a good GUI for wifi configuration and connecting? that will show me all the wireless networks in range and allow me to select and connect to them
[01:19] <eck> cecko: or i guess you could just kill wineserver since you know that it is what is holding it
[01:19] <Jowi> fuzzy_logic, sorry to hear that. nvidia specific then. I don't have an nvidia card so I can't help with that. it was worth a shot anyway
[01:19] <eck> gnychis: network-manager
[01:19] <cecko> eck that would abort the installation, not?
[01:19] <tuvwx> is network-manager usable yet?
[01:19] <fuzzy_logic> Jowi: yes.. you did a wonderful job.. much thanks..
[01:19] <eck> cecko: you cannot eject a mounted cd drive
[01:19] <kneeki> Hmm, is there a disk defragment tool in 'nix?
[01:19] <davisc> tjcarter: BTW, Feisty CD from 2007-04-10 works perfectly with LVM etc (except for the known delay). Won't be upgrading kernel for a while :-)
[01:19] <eck> cecko: and you cannot unmount a drive if a program is holding files on it
[01:20] <Faugn> cecko: trying to install a multiple CD games?
[01:20] <tuvwx> kneeki, ext3 doesn't need defragment
[01:20] <ins-dragonclaw> kneeki: nope
[01:20] <cecko> Faugn yes
[01:20] <kneeki> oh?
[01:20] <eck> kneeki: generally no... if you move a file on an ext3 filesystem it will be "defragmented"
[01:20] <cecko> eck so can i change a cd to finish my installation
[01:20] <kneeki> oh
[01:20] <kneeki> I had no idea =)
[01:20] <Faugn> cecko: one trick I already used, is to make a shadow copy of the mounted cd
[01:20] <eck> kneeki: it is not a problem unless you let your disk usage get above 90% or so
[01:21] <eck> cecko: if wine won't release the cd drive then no
[01:21] <cecko> Faugn I see, I wanted to avoid this, but ok. what tool did you use, pls?
[01:21] <gnychis> eck: which is that under the menus? or whats the binary name to spawn it from a terminal?
[01:21] <Faugn> cecko: lndir, it's in xutils-dev
[01:22] <gene6482> hey everyone, i'm trying to get my sound working, been trying all day with no luck, i'm using snd-hda-intel, and it appears like it should be working, but is not, i've tried everything i could find, via the forums, etc, please help
[01:22] <cecko> eck too bad, thx anyway
[01:22] <iowadave> foug: did it just stop working, or has it not ever worked?
[01:22] <Hoag> Hey. For some reason I have trouble playing sound in firefox sometimes. It seems to work sometimes if I close every other app that uses sound then start firefox first, but not if I start rythmbox for example first. How can I allow more than one program to use sound?
[01:22] <foug> iowadave: it just stopped
[01:22] <cecko> Faugn did you mount it on two places then?
[01:22] <Faugn> gene6482: if you launch alsamixer, everything looks alright?
[01:22] <Dial_tone> can you record just the audio from a dvd concert video?
[01:22] <ajehuk> xyz-abc : you still there
[01:23] <ajehuk> ?
[01:23] <xyz-abc> yup
[01:23] <cch> test
[01:23] <xyz-abc> awaiting your command!
[01:23] <Faugn> cecko: I mounted the first cd, did a 'lndir /media/cdrom' from a temp dir
[01:23] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15695
[01:23] <ajehuk> xyz-abc : take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15698/
[01:23] <Faugn> cecko: then launch install from temp dir
[01:23] <Faugn> cecko: then, when switching, lndir again
[01:24] <gene6482> Faugn: yes, everything appears in good order
[01:24] <Loki-uk> hi I'm totally new to Linux can someone answer a question for me I'm trying to install some software into Ubuntu that is packaged as an .rpm I've found out what that is installed RPM and ALIEN and GNU C and I have all the files waiting to go but when I execute the rpm  command i get a series of errors. Now I've found a post that tells me what too do and one of the commands is make and the next command is make install but when I  use these command
[01:24] <iowadave> foug: forgive me for asking dumb, help-desk type questions. Are you using external speakers?
[01:24] <Faugn> gene6482: nothing muted?
[01:24] <foug> iowadave: it didn't work
[01:24] <gene6482> Faugn: nope
[01:24] <Faugn> gene6482: aplay /usr/share/sounds/login.wav
[01:25] <gnychis> eck: does "network-manager" come installed by default?  i don't seem to have it
[01:25] <ajehuk> Loki-uk - normally you would use alien, to convert rpm's into deb's, and then install the deb's
[01:25] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - that look OK?
[01:25] <PresuntoRJ> Loki-uk : Are you sure there is not a BED version of this package you are willing to install?
[01:25] <YbeddJ> is there an irc channel for KDE?
[01:25] <Loki-uk> Aje: how do I do that?
[01:26] <idefix> how does ubuntu load the usbcore module? does udev do that?
[01:26] <gene6482> Faugn:  it says playing, and no errors, but no sound either
[01:26] <xyz-abc> kinda.. i'll try it out in a minute
[01:26] <PresuntoRJ> Loki-uk : I mean, deb
[01:26] <ajehuk> Loki-uk, is the software you downloaded a single rpm file?
[01:26] <gene6482> i've read that in order to get it to work i need to turn of acpi, but i really don't want to dothat
[01:26] <Loki-uk> Aje: yes
[01:26] <ajehuk> Loki-uk - - before we go on - what is the software?
[01:26] <iowadave> foug: sorry, i didn't understand the reply. are you using external speakers or headset?
[01:27] <Faugn> gene6482: you never got it to work?
[01:27] <foug> iowadave: yea, external speakers
[01:27] <xyz-abc> ajehuk, just one thing that confused me, the "old bits" part, does it have to be relocated (to be below the share mount line) or can I just make modifications to what I already had?
[01:27] <iowadave> forgie me for asking -- i assume you've checked all the wires and stuff?
[01:27] <foug> yes
[01:27] <gene6482> Faugn:  I didn't know how to turn off acpi at boot
[01:27] <cecko> Faugn I'll check it out, thx
[01:27] <foug> iowadave: and drivers and such through terminal, it seems fine. adaptr was helping e earlier
[01:28] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - those lines were in your origional fstab - already commented out - I just placed them at the bottom for clarity - they dont do anything so you can do whatever you want with them
[01:28] <raindog> Anyone here using a mobile broadband card with Ubuntu?  I'm thinking of getting one as all I have available otherwise is dialup.  :(  I just need to know if they'll work.
[01:28] <Faugn> gene6482: maybe you should try it, what sound card model?
[01:28] <xyz-abc> ok just checking
[01:28] <micktm> someone knows how to read a memory stick pro duo card with the card reader integrated in my laptop
[01:28] <tuvwx> Faugn, got a guide/howto for building gcc/g++?
[01:28] <micktm> ?
[01:28] <iowadave> foug: also checked the volume control to make sure nothing got muted? (I am going somewhere with this bear with me)
[01:28] <Loki-uk> AJe: it's the VM Additions for Virtual Server (they're not really for Ubbuntu but quite a few people have gotten them working). I only started using Ubuntu yesterday and I  suspect I''m try advanced they update quite a lot of VM drivers and stuff
[01:28] <Faugn> tuvwx: I have a makefile somewhere, to build cross-compilation chain
[01:28] <gene6482> Faugn: intel 82801g
[01:28] <Lilacor> Anybody having VMWare issues with their sound? I can't get sound working on my winxp guest under feisty. :(
[01:29] <macpo3> where should a well behaved application stick any error messages?
[01:29] <foug> iowadave: how cani see if it's muted in alsamixer/
[01:29] <tuvwx> Faugn, never mind.. checking gcc.gnu.org
[01:29] <ajehuk> Loki-uk - No problems, not familiar with the software as such, but the usual steps would be ...
[01:29] <Faugn> tuvwx: I can send it to you if you want, it download/build everything
[01:29] <mina_linux_Tux> ppl it's urgently required , i have ubuntu 6.10 installed with some configurations , i want to know detailed how to make an image from this system to install it on 10 other machines , any comment
[01:29] <tuvwx> Faugn, one question.. do you know if it is possible to compile and run gcc/g++ from a local directory without a system-wide install?
[01:30] <Faugn> tuvwx: sure, it does that too
[01:30] <Faugn> next, making coffee :P
[01:30] <Lilacor> mina_linux_Tux: whoah... are all of the boxen the same?
[01:30] <iowadave> foug: not familiar with that app. have you right-clicked the little loudspeaker icon in the right hand side of the top menu bar. That will open a volume control where you can check various settings.
[01:30] <mina_linux_Tux> Lilacor: yes they are
[01:30] <Pelo> mina_linux_Tux,  I saw something on diggs that might let you do that , let me see if I bookmarked it
[01:30] <foug> iowadave: i took that icon out, heh
[01:31] <anandanbu> Have anyone tried the Flock web browser in Ubuntu
[01:31] <gnychis> what is the terminal command to start network-manager ?
[01:31] <Faugn> gene6482: no more ideas sorry, maybe worth to give that noacpi flag a test
[01:31] <reep> foug: the square boxes underneath the bars, MM means muted, green OO means unmuted (if you're talking about the textbased alsamixer)
[01:31] <mina_linux_Tux> Pelo: i need an easy and fast way to do that , i have to finish the image before 4 hours from now
[01:31] <Lilacor> nm-applet
[01:31] <gene6482> Faugn: how do i do that?
[01:31] <Lilacor> gnychis: nm-applet
[01:31] <Faugn> tuvwx: when configuring, you need to use --prefix
[01:31] <Pelo> mina_linux_Tux, http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
[01:31] <foug> reep: how to unmute?
[01:31] <Drk_Guy> Hy
[01:31] <reep> foug: 'm' toggles
[01:31] <wj32> anandanbu: yes.
[01:31] <ajehuk> Loki-uk : 1) in a terminal, as root, 'alien ./whatever.rpm' (no quotes) where whatever rpm is the file you want to convert.  alien should exit saying something like abc-software.deb generated, 2) you then install the resultant deb using 'dpkg -i ./abc-software.deb' (again, as root, with no quotes, where abc-software.deb is the generated deb file. 3) look at the output from dpkg, to see if there are any issues (there probably will be, bu
[01:32] <gnychis> Lilacor: it says command not found, and when i do "apt-get install network-manager" it says that i have it installed already
[01:32] <guero> anyone know how to create a shortcut for the trash on the desktop?
[01:32] <Faugn> gene6482: when in the bootloader, you can edit a configuration, and then a line, with e, and try appending noacpi to the kernel one
[01:32] <wj32> EVERYONE: ask your question the next time instead of saying "does anyone know..."
[01:32] <tuvwx> Faugn, oh.. so 'make' alone is not enough.. i have to do 'make install'
[01:32] <m_> HI. I am building a new computer for a Linux Ubuntu.   I have a question in regards to multiple monitors.   I purchased a Nvidia 7600 GT SLI GPU which has a max resolution of 2560x1200.  That GPU has 2 heads on it one DVI and one VGA.  I also purchased a BenQ 20.1 in monitor that has 1680x1050 resolution.  My question is that I want to run multiple monitors, and I am not sure of that max resolution of the GPU will be shared in for each additio
[01:32] <m_> nal Monitor.  Or each additional monitor can potential at the max 2560x1200 resolution if the monitor itself allows that?
[01:32] <foug> reep: k it's working now, thanks reep and iowadave
[01:32] <wj32> tehre has to be a bot thing for that
[01:32] <Faugn> or acpi=off, don't remember which one, you can add both to be safe
[01:32] <gene6482> Faugn: ok i'll try it
[01:32] <ajehuk> wj32 : I have a question... :)
[01:32] <vox754> Pelo, do you know the bot factoid about custom CD? there is one, I've seen it. It is like !customCDcreate
[01:33] <Lilacor> gnychis: are you looking for the gnome frontend?
[01:33] <gene6482> Faugn: thanks
[01:33] <Faugn> gene6482: another option, is disabling it in your BIOS
[01:33] <wj32> ajehuk: go on...
[01:33] <foug> reep: are you pretty good with sound?
[01:33] <iowadave> foug: OK. no worries. I'm running out of ideas since I don't know the audio app you're using. Sound quit on me last night (running Dapper) and I got it going again by rebooting. I know that's coarse and crude, and displays my own ignorance (chuckle) but it did work. Sorry I didn't have the answer.
[01:33] <Lilacor> whoah.. WHEEEEEEEEEEEE!! I have sound!!! rejoice!
[01:33] <snowpunk98> So I just did a fresh install of MySQL following this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p4 and I cant change the password
[01:33] <Drk_Guy> Why when i try to install, Ubuntu freezes at 75%?
[01:33] <gnychis> Lilacor: correct, anything for GUI network stuff
[01:33] <Pelo> vox754,  I ddin'T tanks for the heads up,  give it to mina_linux_Tux
[01:33] <Faugn> tuvwx: you need to do the whole shebang: configure/make/make install
[01:33] <Lilacor> gnychis: you probably want network-manager-gnome
[01:33] <foug> iowadave: it's working now :D but, my sound is staticy if it gets too loud. Any idea what that might be? And, do you know of a good player with an equailzer? simple one, but not too simple
[01:34] <ataq> Hey, I am trying to install a program and it says; "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[01:34] <ataq> kernel?", anyone know the directory please?
[01:34] <Lilacor> gnychis: it's always good to try 'sudo apt-cache search <search term>'
[01:34] <Drk_Guy> Why when i try to install, Ubuntu freezes at 75%?
[01:34] <anandanbu> does anyone use Flock web browser in Ubuntu 7.04 if so can you help with the installation of it
[01:34] <xyz-abc> Can someone explain to me how NX (nomachine.com) or FreeNX work?
[01:34] <iowadave> foug: spotted one in a book the other day. gimme a min to find...
[01:34] <Lilacor> anandanbu: is there any burning reason why you must use Flock?
[01:34] <gnychis> Lilacor: thanks, i'll try that!
[01:34] <vox754> Pelo, I don't recall it, so I thought you could help me find the factoid
[01:34] <reep> foug: I've had my share of tearing my hair out ^^
[01:34] <Lilacor> gnychis: you're welcome! :D
[01:34] <crdlb> anandanbu, #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[01:34] <anandanbu> its becoz it provides a blogging support
[01:34] <Faugn> xyz-abc: what do you want to know exactly?
[01:34] <Pelo> vox754,  there use to be a command in DOS  called xcopy that let you make a complete copy of a whole hdd,   is there something like that in bash ?
[01:34] <EvilDennisR> xyz-abc: Good Question!
[01:34] <Loki-uk> AJe: Thanks I'll give it a go now :)
[01:34] <foug> reep: well, my sound is staticy if it gets too loud, like i said to iowadave
[01:34] <xyz-abc> lol why, dennis?
[01:34] <EvilDennisR> xyz-abc: ..I'm curious myself!
[01:34] <guero> Could someone tell me how to access the configuration editor? i don't have it in the menu
[01:34] <Drk_Guy> C'mon
[01:35] <xyz-abc> k :D
[01:35] <EvilDennisR> That and vnc sucks..
[01:35] <Drakona> anyone have suggestion on how to force mounting the hard drive on a emachine?
[01:35] <xyz-abc> yeah vnc does suck
[01:35] <Pelo> guero,   terminal   gconf-editor
[01:35] <Drk_Guy> Guero, try editing the menu
[01:35] <Drk_Guy> For adding the option
[01:35] <xyz-abc> Faugn, I'm just confused as to which version to download for which pc: Node, Client, Server... ?
[01:35] <Drk_Guy> Why when i try to install, Ubuntu freezes at 75%?
[01:35] <vox754> Pelo, I think it is possible with just "cp" I remember a tutorial on the forums about this, just plain copy and tar.gz
[01:35] <Lilacor> anandanbu: ah ha, I see
[01:35] <Faugn> xyz-abc: depends, are you the client or the server? ;)
[01:36] <Lilacor> guero: which configuration editor?
[01:36] <xyz-abc> well.. i dunno
[01:36] <xyz-abc> i wanna control a pc
[01:36] <reep> foug: what sound card do you have? My best bet is that it's interference from another card close to it, or something interfering with the cables
[01:36] <guero> lilacor the one that is supposed to be under system tools
[01:36] <xyz-abc> in the case of VNC i only needed the client to control another pc
[01:36] <foug> reep: sound blaster 16pci
[01:36] <EvilDennisR> Faugn: Oo! Oo! I wanna know about a server, so I can view my machine at home
[01:36] <iowadave> foug: book "ubuntu linux for non-geeks" recommends xmms, available in synaptic
[01:36] <Lilacor> guero: sorry, that doesn't ring a bell. :(
[01:36] <guero> drk_guy how can i edit the menu?
[01:36] <foug> iowadave: didn't like that one tbh
[01:36] <guero> i tried right clicking it
[01:36] <foug> using exaile atm
[01:36] <guero> but i get nada
[01:37] <mina_linux_Tux> Pelo: http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Docs/Using_Reconstructor is that only what i have to follow , and does this create a full system with full customization made as an iso image availble to be installed on a new machine
[01:37] <Drk_Guy> There's an option lying around there
[01:37] <Faugn> basically, get all the debs, and install the server/client package, it will tell you what dependencies it need
[01:37] <gnychis> Lilacor: okay i ran nm-applet and i get a little network thing in my taskbar, but it has an X and says no network connection, i want it to be bound to eth1, how do i set it?
[01:37] <Drk_Guy> Explore the system menu
[01:37] <reep> foug: have you tried it in other os'es without getting static?
[01:37] <Pelo> mina_linux_Tux,  it lets you make custom installation cd , I don'T know more then that
[01:37] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - EvilDennisR - NX is a terminal server, it allows one box to run applications and an OS and you to hook up to it via client software, the terminal part in terminal server is basically any desktop yuo happen to want to run.  think of it as an x server that allows you to run as many seperate sessions as you like, remotley and secureley
[01:37] <ataq> Anyone know where the GCC C headers are stored?
[01:37] <Faugn> xyz-abc: it really is working great, although there is a limitation for the free server: 2 configured users max
[01:37] <guero> drk_guy i have but the terminal command seems to have opened it for me
[01:37] <foug> reep: yea never had a problem in windows
[01:37] <mina_linux_Tux> Pelo: from the system already running ?
[01:37] <Lilacor> gnychis: I don't think that it binds to any port automatically.
[01:38] <iowadave> foug: good to know. thanks. glad you've got some audio back anyway.
[01:38] <Lilacor> gnychis: if you want the applet to do its work you must comment out or remove all settings besides your loopback from /etc/network/interfaces
[01:38] <Drk_Guy> Are you using the Non-GUI bash command mode
[01:38] <dwidmann> ataq: I think, /usr/lib/gcc/
[01:38] <ajehuk> dwidmann : do tell when you get it going, I'd hate to end up looking at it in 6 months and have the same issue...
[01:38] <gnychis> Lilacor: how do i configure it then? i have a wireless interface on eth1 that i want to use with it
[01:38] <|Jason8|> I really, really, really want to say good job to the people who coded Samba.  My ubuntu box is the ONLY computer in my house that is running linux, and it's the only box that works with File and Printer Sharing... god damn microsoft crap.
[01:38] <Pelo> mina_linux_Tux,   installing ubuntu only takes 30 minutes,  if all the sistems are the same why don't you just make a few  copy of the installation cd and then you already know what custom commands you need to do after that,  so it won'T take as long
[01:38] <aoliax> hello, are there any cd copying programs that come default with ubuntu?
[01:38] <dwidmann> ajehuk: that's just it, I think I've got it
[01:38] <foug> iowadave: word
[01:38] <Lilacor> gnychis: what does your /etc/network/interfaces say right now?
[01:39] <ataq> dwidmann: didnt work, any other ideas?
[01:39] <EvilDennisR> ajehuk: Ok.. So my question is, does the server run as vnc, as in, I can controll my desktop on the "server" machine, OR, does it just allow you to start your own X session/program remotley
[01:39] <vox754> !customlivecd > mina_linux_Tux
[01:39] <Drk_Guy> I've disabled NetBIOS on Windows, is such crap present in Ubuntu
[01:39] <xyz-abc> ajehuk, so it's not really 'remotely controlling a pc', it's more like controlling certain apps on a remote pc? is the remote pc also kind of an OS emulator? (like VMware?)
[01:39] <guero> drk_guy i simply typed in gconf-editor
[01:39] <vox754> !uck > mina_linux_Tux
[01:39] <Lilacor> gnychis: if it has something besides just your lo, then you need to 'fix' that
[01:39] <guero> and after some error lines it opened up
[01:39] <dwidmann> ataq: You'll have to be more specific, it's in an include directory somewhere within the above specified folder
[01:39] <dwidmann> It'll vary depending on things like your CPU architecture ...
[01:39] <ataq> dwidmann: its saying /usr/src/linux/include , but its not in there
[01:39] <Faugn> ataq: gcc -print-search-dirs
[01:39] <reep> foug: If you like the winamp-style music players, I'd try beep-media-player too, it's based on xmms, but looks prettier
[01:40] <Drk_Guy> Make the process simpler, get out of the command terminal and explore the Gnome menu
[01:40] <darko> greetings :)  Can I disable VDSO support while compiling the kernel?
[01:40] <foug> reep: using that atm cuz i wanted to play with an EQ. I used foobar in windows
[01:40] <Drk_Guy> I know the option is lying there
[01:40] <Faugn> xyz-abc: it really is like using a remote display, only faster
[01:40] <Faugn> remote display= remote x-server
[01:40] <Drk_Guy> Ok, i'll try [for third time]  installing Ubuntu
[01:40] <xyz-abc> mkay..
[01:40] <Drk_Guy> Ciao!!!!
[01:40] <Faugn> so not really to take control of an existing session
[01:41] <ataq> dwidmann: what should I be looking for in that?
[01:41] <reep> foug: as for the static, I guess it must be an issue with the driver then. Probably not many that develops drivers for 16bit soundcards any more ...
[01:41] <xyz-abc> well VNC is really choppy and I'm only controlling a pc that's a few walls away..
[01:41] <Lilacor> doh
[01:41] <foug> reep: hmm
[01:41] <dwidmann> ataq: probably a folder called "include"
[01:41] <foug> reep: 7.04 is supposed to have better sound support right?
[01:41] <mina_linux_Tux> vox754: already i have system with some kernel modules installed , Plus an HP driver , kiosk settings , i want to make an image as not me who'll install on the other Machines , i want a CD to install the system with the previous mentioned settings
[01:41] <ajehuk> EvilDennisR - xyz-abc : traditionally you have a server, that hosts one or more possible desktop sessions, the client connect to those. It is not VNC, and you are not (although you may be able to - not sure, never tried...) connecting to sessions that are neccisarily local to the machine.  It is intended to work with clients etc.. so you can have a central server seving stuff up.  It is not a vnc replacement, it does different things...
[01:41] <gnychis> Lilacor: it has lo, eth0, eth1, eth2, ath0, wlan0
[01:41] <Lilacor> 3rd time eh? I installed ubuntu four or five times at least just yesterday.
[01:41] <guero> drk_guy sorry to say but it isn't in there. its not under system menu or the places menu, or the applications menu
[01:41] <eck> Lilacor: i hope on four or five different computers
[01:41] <Lilacor> gnychis: then you must 'fix' that by either removing or commenting out all interfaces besides lo
[01:42] <Lilacor> eck: no, just two. >_<;
[01:42] <reep> foug: yea, the newer the kernel, the better support. Usually
[01:42] <Faugn> ataq: what are you looking for exactly?
[01:42] <Lilacor> eck: I learned a lot..very painfully.
[01:42] <aoliax> it appaers that there are no cd copying apps that come with ubuntu with default, so i installed brasero and gnomebaker in case anyone wondered
[01:42] <eck> Lilacor: what did you do?
[01:42] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: according to Faugn though it is like a remote desktop, but better than VNC
[01:42] <ataq> dwidmann: the location of the directory for the C headers
[01:43] <Lilacor> eck: once, I tried to use x64 ubuntu on this laptop and the graphics were hosed
[01:43] <EvilDennisR> xyz-abc: Yeah, but what ajehuk is trying to say is that it allows you to create desktops, but not controll your central desktop
[01:43] <Faugn> aoliax: k3b is really good, for all those things
[01:43] <dwidmann> ataq, yes, that's where they should be .... the exact directory could probably be found like so ... locate /usr/lib/gcc | grep include | head -1
[01:43] <eck> aoliax: you can copy cd's to iso files with dd
[01:43] <mina_linux_Tux> vox754: any comment ...?
[01:43] <xyz-abc> ohhh
[01:43] <Lilacor> eck: I wanted to use a 64-bit host with 32-bit guests but that didn't work out so well since I couldn't make out what I was typing
[01:43] <xyz-abc> but can it control the central desktop?
[01:43] <holycow> has anyone noticed the network admin applet tends to dissapear from the panel ?
[01:43] <vox754> mina_linux_Tux, I don't have experience with that, I'm just forwarding the information. But seems like you could prepare a script to configure some things. Another alternative would be to actually hire a Canonical employee, and let him do the work, for a price that is
[01:44] <holycow> just curious if i'm th eonly one
[01:44] <Lilacor> eck: the next time vmware player screwed everything up
[01:44] <tuvwx> Faugn, oh.. so 'make' alone is not enough.. i have to do 'make install'
[01:44] <tuvwx> Faugn, sorry.. had to take a shower
[01:44] <aoliax> faugn, eck, i shall try that, thanks
[01:44] <Faugn> xyz-abc: it can launch anything, a whole session, or only a xterm for example
[01:44] <eck> Lilacor: ah, it's all the proprietary software that's messing you up :-)
[01:44] <Lilacor> eck: I think you can tell that I was trying very badly to get vmware to work
[01:44] <xyz-abc> i'll take that as a yes
[01:44] <Lilacor> eck: welp, I wasn't sure how to get KVM working so I went with what I already had
[01:44] <Lilacor> gnychis: I am assuming you're trying to get your wireless connection working.
[01:44] <eck> Lilacor: i understand, i have had bad experiences with vmware as well
[01:44] <Lilacor> gnychis: Is that correct?
[01:45] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - NX server is literally a terminal server, you can use it to access a remote machine, VNC is typically used to interact with an existing desktop session (especially in windows, since windows isnt really multiuser),
[01:45] <EvilDennisR> Faugn: Launch is the key word here.. It can't connect to an existing session running
[01:45] <gnychis> Lilacor: correct, so i have to remove everything but lo ?
[01:45] <Faugn> EvilDennisR: yep
[01:45] <ataq> dwidmann: i dunno, still saying no. I am on 64bit also
[01:45] <mina_linux_Tux> PriceChild: hey any comment
[01:45] <iowadave> foug: installing correct driver improved my sound. have you searched google or the forums for driver help on your sound card?
[01:45] <Lilacor> eck: now that VMWare workstation is working, it's fabulous
[01:45] <mina_linux_Tux> ppl any comment
[01:45] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - NX server is literally a terminal server, you can use it to access a remote session (not as I said earlier 'machine'), VNC is typically used to interact with an existing desktop session (especially in windows, since windows isnt really multiuser),
[01:45] <foug> iowadave: kind of
[01:45] <Lilacor> gnychis: it's probably better to just comment everything out but the settings for lo
[01:45] <Faugn> EvilDennisR: pity there is no app like screen for X11 stuff
[01:45] <xyz-abc> ok so VNC it is then..
[01:46] <mina_linux_Tux> i want to make an image for already running ubuntu system, to be installed on other Machines with same configs
[01:46] <BFrank> does anyone know how to prevent Ubuntu from changing the console font?
[01:46] <EvilDennisR> Faugn: That would rock
[01:46] <foug> iowadave: i try to follow guides like this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards, but it never works
[01:46] <reep> Faugn: yea, been waiting for an xscreen for ages
[01:46] <EvilDennisR> xyz-abc: Unfortunately =(
[01:46] <gnychis> Lilacor: okay, then what?
[01:46] <Faugn> not really possible I think
[01:46] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - just remember that by default vnc is not secure, there are probably better options.
[01:46] <iowadave> foug: it's one of those hair-te4aring things that reep mentioned. But if you can find a how-to on your sound card then you don't have to wait for feisty.
[01:46] <xyz-abc> oh well...
[01:46] <dwidmann> ataq: just what are you trying to compile?
[01:46] <ataq> dwidmann: it now says The path "/usr/lib/gcc-lib" is an existing directory, but it does not contain a
[01:46] <ataq> "linux" subdirectory as expected.
[01:47] <xyz-abc> im only using it because im lazy
[01:47] <ataq> dwidmann: vmware workstation
[01:47] <Lilacor> mina_linux_Tux: http://www.rajeevnet.com/hacks_hints/os_clone/os_cloning.html <---have you seen this already?
[01:47] <holycow> mina_linux_Tux, look into dd, cfdisk and partimage
[01:47] <Faugn> I think there where some library, to make a X11 client more robust, like being able to handle deconnection/reconnection, but nothing transparent
[01:47] <Lilacor> gnychis: do you have your wireless card's drivers installed already?
[01:47] <mina_linux_Tux> holycow: i need a full discriptive guide for that
[01:47] <EvilDennisR> ajehuk: What else is there besides vino-server (Which blows)
[01:47] <theTrav> hey, this I asked this in ##gnome but no answer yet, in ubuntu if I've got an app up and want it to switch to full screen (no title bar or gnome panels) is there a common short cut to command to program to do that?
[01:47] <eck> theTrav: F11
[01:47] <Lilacor> mina_linux_Tux: please take a look at the URL I posted.
[01:47] <gnychis> Lilacor: yep, i can see the interface with iwconfig, it is eth1
[01:48] <eck> theTrav: it doesn't work with everything though
[01:48] <theTrav> thanks
[01:48] <Lilacor> gnychis: and you can already scan for ESSIDs?
[01:48] <holycow> mina_linux_Tux, sorry you will haveto reaserach each tool your self, figure out how it works and then make it work
[01:48] <ajehuk> EvilDennisR - Graphical application? no idea.
[01:48] <dwidmann> ataq: perhaps /usr/include?
[01:48] <eck> for example, it works in gnome-terminal
[01:48] <eck> and epiphany i think
[01:48] <holycow> i have a script that images in and out hd's in 3 minutes each with those toolse
[01:48] <Faugn> ataq: trying to compile a kernel module?
[01:48] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux : its actually very simple with dd,
[01:48] <holycow> any other tool configuration requires a minimum of 10 minutes for deployment
[01:48] <gnychis> Lilacor: yep i can
[01:49] <EvilDennisR> ajehuk: Theres gotta be someone working on some project somewhere to replace vnc.. There are already a bunch of programs for windows that work way better than vnc
[01:49] <holycow> mina_linux_Tux, just giving you a heads up what you should be looking for thats all
[01:49] <ataq> Faugn: dont know much about GCC, but I need to find the directory of C header
[01:49] <vox754> holycow, Lilacor About cloning installation, if you information is actually good you should add the info to ubotu's factoids
[01:49] <ajehuk> EvilDennisR - Im sure there are, I just dont use them :) take a look at freshmeat.net / sourceforge etc..
[01:49] <Faugn> ataq: which one?
[01:49] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk: after making the image , must i have CD burner , or may i copy it to another system that has a CD burner as i didn't setup a CD burner on linux before
[01:50] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux - are you just doing one other PC?
[01:50] <ataq> Faugn: how do you mean
[01:50] <reep> ataq: /usr/include
[01:50] <holycow> vox754, sure and the script too, when someone manages to free up my time from fixing gnome crap
[01:50] <Lilacor> mina_linux_Tux:  no no no...you _should_ be able to replicate across the wire!
[01:50] <aoliax> in k3b i am getting an error when it tries to eject the source disk for cd copying, any ideas?
[01:50] <gnychis> Lilacor: all i'm trying to do is get the wireless icon on my taskbar and some sort of gui interface for configuring it
[01:50] <ataq> Should I have kernel-source?
[01:51] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: it automounts the share every time now.. however I still can't access the Ubuntu PC from my Windows pc
[01:51] <foxiness> what i need to do on beryl theme to can see moive on mplayer?
[01:51] <vox754> holycow, ha... Are you getting paid doing it?
[01:51] <foug> reep: would a how to on installing AC97 work? those were the dirvers i downloaded when I was on windows
[01:51] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - ahem no you wont be able to unless you set up a samba share on your ubuntu pc
[01:51] <reep> ataq: not unless you intend to compile the kernel, you probably want linux-headers-`uname -r` package
[01:51] <holycow> unfortunately yes
[01:51] <Faugn> ataq: if you want to see, for example where is the stdio.h you use for your program, you can only preprocess the source, and look for line like this:  1 "/usr/include/stdlib.h" 1 3 4
[01:51] <Lilacor> gnychis: yes I understand that...now that you've configured your interfaces file, you should be able to logout and login again...then the network-applet should kick in automatically
[01:51] <mina_linux_Tux> Lilacor: BTW , i tried Ghost , and the boot system hangs at GRUB
[01:51] <xyz-abc> alright......
[01:52] <Faugn> ataq: now if you missing a header for compilation....
[01:52] <Faugn> *your
[01:52] <gnychis> Lilacor: awesome thank you, i will give that a shot
[01:52] <ataq> Faugn: think I am missing the header
[01:52] <foug> how do i open kmix?
[01:52] <Lilacor> gnychis: Please let me know.
[01:53] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux : easiest way to acheve what you want is to boot both PC's with lie CD,s, mount the hdd of the one you wish to build on to the one you widh to use as a master, using nfs, then dd the contents of the master pc's disk directly on to the remote hdd
[01:53] <Faugn> ataq: what are you trying to compile?
[01:53] <gene6482> so....no luck with turning acpi off, now i'm really stumped
[01:53] <reep> ataq: for compiling, just install the build-essential package, it installs the standard c library headers
[01:53] <ataq> Faugn: vmware on x64
[01:53] <foug> how do i open kmix?
[01:53] <jasonmarcell_> has anyone ever seen the Mac address of their wired router display as 00:00:00:00:00:00 when doing ifconfig?
[01:53] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux - should say live cd not lie cd
[01:53] <ataq> reep:thanks, i will try it now
[01:54] <gene6482> any ideas as to how i can fix my intel 82801g sound to make it work, everything is installed correctly with no errors, but no sound is played
[01:54] <Faugn> ataq: ah, the perl configuration script for the modules?
[01:54] <ataq> Faugn: ya, thats the one
[01:54] <foug> anyone? i need to know how to open kmix so i can hopefully fix sound problem
[01:54] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk: is there anything like symantec ghost ? but for linux
[01:54] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: dare I ask for your help setting up Samba...?
[01:55] <Faugn> like reep suggested, you have linux-headers-xxxxxx installed?
[01:55] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux : ghost is OS agnostic I believe - so you can use ghost
[01:55] <ataq> Faugn: yep, I have indeed
[01:55] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk: i did use it as i said , but the ubuntu boot hangs at GRUB
[01:55] <reep> foug: I have no idea about the ac97...
[01:56] <Faugn> ataq: and you have GCC installed? everything to compile?
[01:56] <jasonmarcell_> I am having trouble with a plain ol' 8139 wired PCI ethernet card getting DHCP offers and when I do ifconfig, eth0 says its HWaddr is 00:00:00:00:00:00 .... lshw says that too
[01:56] <foug> reep: just need to know how to open kmix, i found a fix i think
[01:56] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux - thats a specific problem - there is no reason why it shouldnt work - ghost uses pretty much the same techniques as I described earlier
[01:56] <reep> foug: hm... tried running kmix from a terminal?
[01:56] <ataq> Faugn: Ya, Its strange, never happend me before installing
[01:56] <foug> reep: yes
[01:56] <EvilDennisR> I need another drink!
[01:56] <ajehuk> xyz-abc : I could help but I may not be the best person here to do so, I have no idea if there is a nice easy GUI way of simply sharing up a file with ubuntu, and I assume there is :)
[01:56] <reep> foug: dpkg -L kmix   , it will list all files installed by that package
[01:57] <xyz-abc> well its ok, enough networking for day.. thanks a lot for your help
[01:57] <foug> reep: ahh, not installed
[01:57] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - np
[01:57] <Faugn> ataq: well, good luck :)
[01:57] <Faugn> use qemu ;)
[01:57] <Lilacor> jasonmarcell_: sounds like it doesn't have the correct driver
[01:58] <eck> jasonmarcell_: are you sure the ethernet card works?
[01:58] <ataq> Faugn: Thanks for your help, I will get it going. just something small I have left out probably. Qemu isnt as good!
[01:58] <Lilacor> jasonmarcell_: that's just my guess out of my booty though
[01:58] <Faugn> ataq: it's really getting there :) maybe not for windows...
[01:58] <EvilDennisR> ajehuk: Captain Morgan Silver and Coke Zero
[01:59] <EvilDennisR> ajehuk: In a frosty pint glass, obviously...
[01:59] <vox754> EvilDennisR, offtopic?
[01:59] <Faugn> ataq: havn't try kvm or xen, I need a new PC...
[01:59] <Faugn> ;(
[01:59] <ataq> Faugn: I wanna try out ReactOS
[01:59] <ataq> Faugn: Xen is pretty cool
[01:59] <EvilDennisR> vox754: Eh?
[01:59] <jasonmarcell_> Lolacor: No, I think I've used this card before, though I wouldn't rule out that the card is bad. I'd lean more towards guessing that its a driver issue, but an 8139 ethernet card is pretty popular
[01:59] <Lilacor> ataq: I've heard the video drivers for Xen are...less than desirable
[02:00] <Faugn> ataq: you tried quemu with the kernel module to accelerate things?
[02:00] <jasonmarcell_> Lilacor: No, I think I've used this card before, though I wouldn't rule out that the card is bad. I'd lean more towards guessing that its a driver issue, but an 8139 ethernet card is pretty popular
[02:00] <cafuego> Faugn: I run virtualised OSes on a P3/600 with 640Mb ram.
[02:00] <moDumass> morning all i was tweking beryl last night messing with the blur settings then my machine froze, couldnt restart x, so i rebooted because im not very quick on the ball, and now all i get after login is a tan screen with a mouse pointer, please point me in a direction
[02:00] <jasonmarcell_> Lilacor, sorry misspelled your nick the first time
[02:00] <cafuego> Faugn: You do *not* need high-end hardware
[02:00] <Lilacor> jasonmarcell_: Hmmmmmmmmmm.... have you recently tested this card in another box?
[02:00] <Faugn> cafuego: :P
[02:00] <Lilacor> jasonmarcell_: it's NaBD
[02:00] <cafuego> Although when you run Xen in vmware on an actual hsot, you kidna do ;-)
[02:00] <Faugn> cafuego: I was thinking of those new instructions sets
[02:00] <mina_linux_Tux> Lilacor: now dd must work on my hdd0 as the source and what is the destionation as i want to make a CD ,
[02:00] <EvilDennisR> vox754: Come on man.. We were talking about a tasty beverage, not chatting it up about what we did on Friday night. Its ok =)
[02:00] <ataq> Faugn: nope, I havent tried Qemu in a while now. any good?
[02:00] <Faugn> kvm still need those, no?
[02:00] <jasonmarcell_> Lilacor: not recently, but i do have some other ethernet cards i may try
[02:01] <xyz-abc> I got a question: why is canonical sponsoring the Ubuntu project, what do they gain?
[02:01] <cafuego> Faugn: I have no machines (yet) that supports those, and xen/vmware run just fine.
[02:01] <cafuego> Faugn: Only think to make sure of is the guest OS doesn't start swapping.
[02:01] <vox754> EvilDennisR, alright.
[02:01] <nekomancer> hello, room.
[02:01] <Lilacor> jasonmarcell_: I would suggest trying a different card first or at least testing the card in another chassis.
[02:01] <moDumass> list ubuntu channels
[02:01] <moDumass> hmm,
[02:01] <eck> xyz-abc: because they hope to make lots of money like red hat
[02:01] <Lilacor> mina_linux_Tux: I'm not sure. I've never replicated like that before. Sorry.
[02:01] <Faugn> cafuego: ok
[02:01] <penguin42> xyz-abc: It's money given by a guy with a lot of money who wants to make the world better
[02:02] <xyz-abc> I like penguin's explanation better
[02:02] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux - how big is the HDD you are trying to image?
[02:02] <Linuturk> can anyone give me a hand? http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?p=67265
[02:02] <neozen> xyz-abc: the simplest explanation is often the most logical
[02:02] <xyz-abc> eck: how can they make money? just selling support services, I guess, but just imagine how much bandwidth they go through daily
[02:02] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk: 40 gb
[02:02] <Lilacor> xyz-abc: Mark Shuttleworth is a fmr. astronaut with idealistic dreams of having a world with more freedom, not less. He's trying to put linux into the hands of the average joe.
[02:03] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux - so how are you going to fit 40gb worth of hdd on to a 700mb cd? :)
[02:03] <sryder> anyone used high availability?
[02:03] <xyz-abc> it takes an astronaut to fight Microsoft!
[02:03] <eck> xyz-abc: i'm not really sure... obviously red hat makes a _lot_ of money, if canonical had similar success in the server market they would be in good shape
[02:03] <spikeb> Lilacor, while making money. not THAT idealistic.
[02:03] <tecta> how do you use rhythmbox-applet
[02:03] <neozen> xyz-abc: they make a metric ton of money supporting redhat in the corporate environment
[02:03] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk: as the ghost make it
[02:03] <ins-dragonclaw> (gedit:14173): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. // Using the fallback 'C' locale. <-- what does this mean?
[02:03] <xyz-abc> I guess ubuntu's servers aren't very common
[02:03] <tecta> i dont see rhythmbox-applet in gnome add applet
[02:03] <Lilacor> spikeb: yes but the initial investment is quite high and almost guaranteed to be a money losing start.
[02:04] <Lilacor> sryder: What do you mean?
[02:04] <spikeb> Lilacor, that's what businesses are.
[02:04] <Faugn> ins-dragonclaw: no support for you language, for the app your launching
[02:04] <Faugn> *your
[02:04] <foug> does ubuntu 7.04 come with a newer version of gaim?
[02:04] <ins-dragonclaw> I'm english
[02:04] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux ; its not going to work like that, are these both PC's?
[02:04] <neozen> foug: it would have to
[02:04] <ins-dragonclaw> how can it NOT support?
[02:04] <foug> neozen: cool
[02:04] <jrib> foug: yes, packages.ubuntu.com can tell you exactly which version
[02:04] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux - as in desktop PC'a?
[02:04] <neozen> foug: though its not called gaim anymore
[02:04] <foug> neozen: i know, pidgin
[02:04] <Faugn> ins-dragonclaw: the default one is C, that I think can be pretty much anything
[02:04] <emacsen> ins-dragonclaw, sorry, we only speak American here
[02:05] <neozen> foug: ::nods::
[02:05] <Faugn> dependy on who coded the app
[02:05] <theTrav> hmm, is it possible for ubuntu to connect to a windows pc's as a remote desktop client?
[02:05] <sryder> Lilacor: I want to find out if you can have multiple virtual IP Addresses using ldirector/heartbeat (linux ha)
[02:05] <neozen> theTrav: yeah
[02:05] <emacsen> theTrav, there's a remote desktop client, you can install it
[02:05] <Lilacor> theTrav: There's a gnome RDP client so I'm assuming it's possible.
[02:05] <neozen> theTrav: you want to install rdesktop
[02:05] <Faugn> ins-dragonclaw: also, it may just be that the app does not support localisation
[02:05] <spikeb> apparently canonical plans on making money via proprietary crap, too - witness launchpad.
[02:05] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk: i used Ubuntu 6.10 to install the system already running , as i think the installation didn't use the hall capacity of the HD, so i want to make an image fo the system already installed on a CD
[02:05] <ins-dragonclaw> i installed soundconverter and I get errors like that
[02:05] <spikeb> bit of a different model than redhat.
[02:05] <eck> sryder: you can have multiple virtual ip addresses with ifconfig
[02:05] <Linuturk> can anyone give me a hand? http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?p=67265
[02:05] <eck> sryder: ifconfig eth0:1 10.10.10.10
[02:06] <neozen> theTrav: that's the only one I know of ... it should be in the repositories
[02:06] <eck> there, now eth0 has a second ip address
[02:06] <Lilacor> sryder: I'm assuming that linux virtual server does this. I've never tried it out however.
[02:06] <neozen> eck: oi..... that sounds like a headache waiting to happen
[02:06] <sryder> eck: yeah I'm cool with that - its LVS that I am not sure about
[02:06] <ins-dragonclaw> let the fun begin...
[02:06] <atselby> faugn: you still here?
[02:06] <atselby> !pastebin
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[02:06] <eck> neozen: it is very useful if you are in an office with lots of subnets...
[02:07] <neozen> eck: ::nods::
[02:07] <Faugn> atselby: yep
[02:07] <Lilacor> Linuturk: Ooooh..you're trying to get the game working I see.
[02:07] <eck> neozen: dhcp puts me on one subnet, the servers are on another, but i create a virtual interface and can still get through :-)
[02:07] <neozen> eck: like I said... headaches
[02:07] <MrMakeveli> !partition | MrMakeveli
[02:07] <atselby> faugn: rebooted into recoveryr mode of the latest kernel and got a different .xsession-errors
[02:07] <sryder> Lilacor: I think I can only bind one virtual IP to a physical ethernet. I guess theres only one way to find out..
[02:07] <atselby> faugn: could there be anything usefull in it?
[02:07] <MrMakeveli> !partition
[02:07] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:07] <Linuturk> yes Lilacor
[02:07] <Linuturk> Lilacor, please help!
[02:07] <neozen> eck: so its that easy to spoof an ip .... scary scary
[02:07] <Linuturk> Lilacor, I want to frack cylons
[02:07] <atselby> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15706/
[02:07] <neozen> eck: lol
[02:08] <Lilacor> Linuturk:  :S
[02:08] <reep> !DiskMounter > reep
[02:08] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux - the problem you will face is that traditional imaging appliations will simply deal with a linux file system as one big blob of data, including all the free space, I am not aware of any smarter ways of doing it, ghost will work over a network and dd certainly will, but I dont think there is neccessarily an easy way of doing this.  you may be able to use something like livestate, or b,r but they are all commercial and exp
[02:08] <Lilacor> Linuturk:  I have never dealt with this program so I can't say very much.
[02:08] <Faugn> atselby: ouch, not pretty :/
[02:08] <spikeb> dd rocks
[02:08] <Lilacor> Linuturk: What libraries does it require?
[02:08] <atselby> faugn: yeah... XD
[02:08] <Lilacor> mina_linux_Tux: There's also ghost for unix you could try?
[02:09] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux : I could walk you through the whole thing step by step, but whilst simple it is not somehing that can be done by clicking through a gui
[02:09] <MrMakeveli> hey everyone! im looking to partition out my 160gb hd right now to install ubuntu on this hd as well (already have it on another 80gb). this time around, however, i would like to create separate partitions. does anyone have any recommendations for what partitions to make, sizes (relative to 160gb) and filesystems to use?
[02:09] <Lilacor> Linuturk: scratch that...do you have all of the necessary libraries?
[02:09] <louieb> Hey I am trying to install 6.10 and cant figure out how to get gparted to set the raid flag. I had suse and it is already setup as a raid so on of the partitions has the flag setup but the other is unknown. I need to know how to delete it and make a new partition so i can get software raid 0
[02:09] <Faugn> atselby: I'd say your config is pretty f*** up now
[02:09] <Faugn> :P
[02:09] <Linuturk> Lilacor, well, I have the appropriate libraries as far as I know, but my DRI is off, specifically the S3TC with the i915 chipset
[02:09] <eck> neozen: it's not really "spoofing" per se, that's just how routers work
[02:09] <holycow> ajehuk, just as a heads up, the smart way is to marry dd, cfdisk and partimage into a script.  dd for bootsector+grub, cfdisk for partitioning, partimage for filesystems.  3 minutes flat for 20 gig partitions and a default install
[02:09] <sryder> spikeb: can you dd partitions of different sizes?
[02:09] <atselby> faugn: yeah... so how would i go about fixin that?
[02:09] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk: so ?
[02:09] <Pelo> louieb,  apply your previous modifications before  setting the flag
[02:10] <atselby> the sad part is i dont know what i did.
[02:10] <Lilacor> Linuturk: have you checked your chipset's OpenGL support?
[02:10] <Faugn> atselby: dump compiz?
[02:10] <tecta> die
[02:10] <ajehuk> holycow - and if the second disk isnt local to the first?
[02:10] <atselby> faugn: but how
[02:10] <spikeb> sryder, no idea. i've just used it to copy sector by sector
[02:10] <cappicrd> damn... i'm getting error 127 from rastertoz600
[02:10] <sryder> spikeb: ahh cool
[02:10] <louieb> Pelo: so make the ext3 parition and then I can edit it after?
[02:10] <Linuturk> Lilacor, I've turned on S3TC using driconf, but I apparently need to compile one of the packages at the bottom of this page >> http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/dri_experimental/s3tc_index.html >> I've ran Freespace2 on this chipset before
[02:10] <atselby> faugn: i cant open up the session editor...
[02:10] <Faugn> atselby: how did you activate it?
[02:10] <atselby> faugn: i didnt.
[02:10] <Pelo> louieb,   that would be my suggestion
[02:10] <holycow> ajehuk, makes no diff
[02:10] <atselby> faugn: i never put compiz into the autostart.
[02:10] <d00d_> Host/Kernel/OS  "d00d-desktop" running Linux 2.6.15-28-386 i686 [ Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS ] 
[02:10] <d00d_> CPU Info        Intel Core2 X6800 @ 4096 KB cache flags( sse sse2 nx lm pni vmx ) clocked at [ 1600.349 MHz ] 
[02:10] <d00d_> Videocard       Unknown device 0191  X.Org 7.0.0  [ 1024x768 @50hz ] 
[02:10] <d00d_> Network cards   Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller, at port: b000
[02:10] <d00d_> Processes 81 | Uptime 43min | Memory 171.0/2026.8MB | HDD WDC WD1600JB-00REA0 Size 245GB (6%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce 8800 GTX/PCI/SSE2 | GLX Version 2.1.0 NVIDIA 97.55 | Client X-Chat 2.6.6 | Infobash v2.60
[02:10] <Linuturk> Lilacor, it can't hurt to recheck for open gl
[02:11] <jrib> !paste | d00d_
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[02:11] <louieb> Pelo: and then to make the raid, do I just tell both partitions to be / ?
[02:11] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk: as the manual says dd can image in chunks and i can specify start and end block or skip blocks
[02:11] <sryder> spikeb: I tried it last night - had a 20G partition dd'd to a 50G parition. I later found that the 50G partition was only seen as a 20G partition
[02:11] <MrMakeveli> hey everyone! im looking to partition out my 160gb hd right now to install ubuntu on this hd as well (already have it on another 80gb). this time around, however, i would like to create separate partitions. does anyone have any recommendations for what partitions to make, sizes (relative to 160gb) and filesystems to use?
[02:11] <atselby> !paste | d00d_
[02:11] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli: seperate /boot /home and /var - boot quite small (200mb?) home as big as you can and var @ 1-5G depending what you run
[02:11] <sryder> spikeb: So I ended up just mounting and doing a cp
[02:11] <d00d_> sorry
[02:11] <spikeb> sryder, you could probably resize that partition with something heh
[02:11] <NewbieBaba> hey.. which IRC program do you preffer im connecting by GAIM that i cant use the commands :/
[02:11] <ajehuk> holycow - makes a big difference on time
[02:11] <atselby> its okay d00d_
[02:11] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: thanks
[02:11] <spikeb> NewbieBaba, xchat is a good choice
[02:11] <JP_P_home> hello how to know the uptime of apache2  with a shell command ?
[02:12] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: ext3 for all?
[02:12] <louieb> thank you very much Pelo
[02:12] <Pelo> louieb,  I've never made a raid   but I know you cannot set flags in gparted while you have commands pending , so if you set your table and added your partitions, you need to finish that off before setting a flag
[02:12] <sryder> spikeb: I tried parted but it didnt like moving the primary partition that / was mounted on
[02:12] <Faugn> atselby: if you launch X by hand (just X, Alt+Ctrl+Backspace to kill it), does it work?
[02:12] <spikeb> sryder, ahh ok
[02:12] <eck> NewbieBaba: i think most people use xchat (or xchat-gnome) for a graphical client and irssi for a command line client, it's really a matter of preference
[02:12] <reep> sryder: yes, with dd you copy the filesystem, and the filesystem was only 20GB, you can grow the filesystem to fit the 50GB afterwards though
[02:12] <NewbieBaba> thanks guys..
[02:12] <sryder> reep: like with reiserfs utils ?
[02:12] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli whatever you like - I usually have boot as ext3 (it degrades to ext2 and I have never seen a problem with ext..) the rest you can format with whatever you want (ext3 is fine) as long as your kernel supports the fs
[02:13] <eck> sryder: what is wrong with using tar?
[02:13] <jasonmarcell_> NewbieBaba: i'm using colloquy on a mac
[02:13] <atselby> faugn: doesnt alt ctrl backspace restart x?
[02:13] <sryder> eck: never thought of it..
[02:13] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk: ,.....?
[02:13] <mister_roboto> JP_P_home: ps -ef |grep apache    and look at start time
[02:13] <Faugn> mmm, take a look in ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-session/ubuntu/%gconf.xml too
[02:13] <reep> sryder: don't have any experience with reiserfs, but for ext2 and ext3, you'd use resize2fs
[02:13] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux : yes?
[02:13] <NewbieBaba> i need simple n fast one
[02:13] <NewbieBaba> :D
[02:13] <Linuturk> Lilacor, any ideas ?
[02:13] <spikeb> xchat is simple and fast.
[02:13] <Faugn> atselby: nope, kill it, but gdm restart it automatically
[02:13] <atselby> faugn: kill it now then?
[02:14] <eck> you shouldn't be using dd unless you really know that you need it, file-based archives are better
[02:14] <jasonmarcell_> yeah, and i guess if you're on gaim, chances are you're on a pc
[02:14] <Faugn> atselby: it worked?
[02:14] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk: so what i have to do , as i said dd can make chunks of data
[02:14] <neozen> spikeb: indeed it is... I'm just getting friendly with it now
[02:14] <atselby> leme tyr it
[02:14] <atselby> brb
[02:14] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: so if I want to access my Ubuntu PC from my WinXP PC I need to set up a Samba shared folder on my Ubuntu PC?
[02:14] <wj32> hi NewbieBaba
[02:14] <Lilacor> Linuturk: Hmmmm....have you tried using different drivers? [are there any available?] 
[02:14] <gene6482> Intel 82801g sound card with conexant chip not functional everything appears to be in good shape, aplay works, but no sound is output, help!!
[02:14] <sryder> reep: I should have given that a shot.. maybe next time
[02:14] <NewbieBaba> hey wj32 :)
[02:14] <eegore> Is anyone here familiar with setting up a logitech digital joystick on the Kubuntu 63 bit Feisty using an Audigy 2 Gameport
[02:14] <NewbieBaba> im finally on Ubuntu lalala
[02:14] <NewbieBaba> :)
[02:14] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: also, i have a practical question: im running off the live cd now to format the 160 im on. im under the "install" and im doing manual partitioning. if i create new partitions with those names and filesystems, when i finish it off will it all just magically work? like if i create a /boot and a /var and a big /home, when i keep installing, will it know not to create those?
[02:14] <eegore> 64*
[02:15] <reep> sryder: but as eck mentioned, tar is the best option, it retains permissions and ownership
[02:15] <JP_P_home> thanks mister_roboto
[02:15] <Pelo> eegore,  check the forum for the joystic model
[02:15] <NewbieBaba> i'll keep bothering you with my newbie questions ! :D
[02:15] <Linuturk> Lilacor, no, I haven't tried that. I have the best drivers for my chipset with direct rendering out of the box
[02:15] <atselby> faugn: now i have another output of error
[02:15] <atselby> !past
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <atselby> !paste
[02:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:15] <Linuturk> Lilacor, or, I thought I did
[02:15] <|Jason8|> Hello, how do I change an .rpm file to a .deb file?
[02:15] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - yes (or you can get a nfs client for windows and use nfs but since you are already using samba there isnt much point) by the way why dont you just use the samba share for two way traffic? after all anything in that folder can be seen by the ubuntu box, even if you are not fropping stuff directly on to it...
[02:15] <gene6482> Intel 82801g sound card with conexant chip not functional everything appears to be in good shape, aplay works, but no sound is output, help!!
[02:15] <wj32> |Jason8|: alien
[02:15] <eegore> ] \I did and the poor guy that asked the question came up with no response either
[02:15] <Lilacor> Linuturk: I'm sorry. I don't have any decent ideas since I am not using that application. :(
[02:15] <atselby> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15710/
[02:15] <atselby> faugn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15710/
[02:15] <Munchkinguy> Does Ubuntu support USB TV cards?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> |Jason8|: alien but its not always safe. most of the time ther eis a deb for it already
[02:16] <mister_roboto> !alien
[02:16] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:16] <Linuturk> Lilacor, thanks for trying
[02:16] <eck> |Jason8|: if you have the option, get a source tarball, alien isn't very good
[02:16] <Lilacor> Linuturk: Good luck. :)
[02:16] <|Jason8|> Okay...
[02:16] <Faugn> atselby: look into ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-session/ubuntu/%gconf.xml
[02:16] <xyz-abc> You mean the current Samba share, the "/home/downstairs/Desktop/winxpmtdir"?
[02:16] <wj32> |Jason8|: alien mypackage.rpm
[02:17] <mister_roboto> eck:  but alien turns it into a .deb and you get it added to the pkg database on install, right?
[02:17] <Faugn> maybe renaming this file, or changing the wm to metacity
[02:17] <wj32> |Jason8|: produces mypackage.deb
[02:17] <eck> mister_roboto: if it works ;-)
[02:17] <|Jason8|> Well, lemmie ask you guys this.  Is there a plugin for xmms that enables the playing of .wma files?
[02:17] <|Jason8|> wj32, thanks :)
[02:17] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - yep - if you create those partitions and tell the installer to mount them at /boot /var /home etc.. they will be used in the isntall
[02:17] <eck> mister_roboto: also, the filesystem layout is not completely the same between distros
[02:17] <atselby> faugn: no "ubuntu" folder
[02:17] <mister_roboto> eck: source installs are fine if you understand the consequences of managing it manually :)
[02:17] <atselby> faugn: there is a%gconf.xml though
[02:17] <Faugn> atselby: and before starting X manually, stop GDM, or use another console (like X :2)
[02:17] <Pelo> |Jason8|,  I think you just need the regular codecs and stuff
[02:17] <mina_linux_Tux> atselby: hey no way ???????
[02:18] <wj32> |Jason8|: w32codecs
[02:18] <atselby> mina_linux_tux: what?
[02:18] <mister_roboto> eck: noobs have tons of trouble with it though
[02:18] <Pelo> !mp3 | |Jason8|
[02:18] <ubotu> |Jason8|: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:18] <Shrimpy_> hey guys, when i shut down ubuntu. i get a screen that says vmnet1 is an unregistered device and is wating to shutdown. but i've waited like two hours and nothing happends. any clue
[02:18] <Lilacor> gnychis: Is your wireless working?
[02:18] <rafael> hi to all
[02:18] <mina_linux_Tux> atselby: what i have to do now
[02:18] <|Jason8|> thanks!
[02:18] <wj32> !w32codecs | |Jason8|
[02:18] <ubotu> |Jason8|: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[02:18] <atselby> mina_linux_tux: do what?
[02:18] <neozen> got a question about xchat
[02:18] <Lilacor> hehehehe
[02:18] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk:  what i have to do now
[02:18] <neozen> clicking on urls doesn't open them in a browser
[02:18] <eegore> Pelo: it seems the other poor individual who made a post is facing the same problem in trying to get the ADI module to load since nobody responded to his thread
[02:18] <Lilacor> neozen: Please ask away.
[02:18] <mina_linux_Tux> atselby: not you sorry
[02:18] <atselby> ah
[02:18] <atselby> k
[02:18] <sohum> how do i reinstall all packages brought in by a metapackage?
[02:18] <neozen> ...though it does seem to highlight them properly
[02:19] <rafael> i'm writing from uberyl
[02:19] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux : Im sorry, Im not sure quite what you are after? could you reiterate?
[02:19] <Pelo> eegore,   at least you are not alone
[02:19] <eegore> I have been googling all week on this
[02:19] <ardchoille> sohum: Installing the metapackage will accomplish that.
[02:19] <Pelo> eegore,  try for another similar model
[02:19] <Lilacor> neozen: sorry I don't know. Do you have your web browsers installed?
[02:19] <sohum> ardchoille: tried that. no dice.
[02:19] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk: now i want to make an installable iso image from my running system
[02:19] <neozen> Lilacor: absolutely
[02:19] <Pelo> eegore,  or try  the logitech site
[02:19] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: did you mean to use the current Samba share, the "/home/downstairs/Desktop/winxpmtdir" as a 2-way dir? (cause thats the one i cant access)
[02:19] <gene6482> Intel 82801g sound card with conexant chip not functional everything appears to be in good shape, aplay works, but no sound is output, help!!
[02:19] <sohum> ardchoille: it just installed the metapackage
[02:20] <eegore> I have an analog that works but it has a mucked up miissile button
[02:20] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: thanks, i guess i'll go ahead and try
[02:20] <sohum> ardchoille: reinstalled, that is
[02:20] <Lilacor> neozen: Sorry. I'm not sure why that wouldn't work.
[02:20] <neozen> Lilacor: yeah
[02:20] <Pelo> eegore,  I mean look in the forum for symilar models you might get some clues on how to set yours up
[02:20] <neozen> oh well.. back later
[02:20] <ardchoille> sohum: Well, if you uninstalled the metapackage, that's all that was uninstalled, the packages is brought in weren't uninstalled.
[02:20] <eegore> has the adi module been depreciated?
[02:20] <ajehuk> mina_linux_Tux - like I said - I am not sure how to go about doing that - I cant remember the last time I used a CD to install antyhing.  I mentioned using dd over a network.  you will need to grab someone else to do it using CD's
[02:20] <wj32> Shrimpy_: alt+sysrq+e
[02:20] <sohum> ardchoille: i don't want to uninstall
[02:21] <sohum> ardchoille: the metapackage, and its dependencies, are installed
[02:21] <sohum> ardchoille: i want to reinstall them
[02:21] <wj32> the thing about apt is you can reinstall without uninstalling first
[02:21] <ardchoille> sohum: If you nstalled a metapackage, then reinstalled it. . the only thing reinstalled is the metapackage because the packages it brought in are still installed.
[02:21] <reep> sohum: don' know of any command to do that, but "aptitude show the-meta-package" will list it's dependancies ...
[02:21] <jrib> sohum: what is the reason you want to reinstall them?  That rarely solves anything
[02:21] <wj32> which means if my libc is stuffed and i want to reinstall it
[02:21] <ardchoille> sohum: Ah, ok, got it now.
[02:22] <wj32> i have to uninistall everything
[02:22] <sohum> jrib: my texlive system is mucking up. I think due to weird updates brought in from elsewhere
[02:22] <mistone> is there a bootmanager for linux that  is like bootcamp for OSX, all graphical ?
[02:22] <jrib> sohum: mucking up how?
[02:22] <wj32> sometimes after a big hacking day, you stuff things up
[02:22] <wj32> mistone: how is bootcamp graphical?
[02:23] <sohum> jrib: the harvard styles won't work properly
[02:23] <jrib> sohum: why are you so non-specific?
[02:23] <mistone> wj32: http://digital-lifestyles.info/copy_images/boot-camp-mac-xp-lg.jpg
[02:24] <sohum> jrib: hm. becasue i'm not sure what the actual problem is
[02:24] <wj32> oh cmon how is that graphical
[02:24] <wj32> thats as graphical as grub
[02:24] <tbuss> I'm new to linux is there a way to remove apache2/php4/mysql/gallery2 other than sudo apt-get remove.
[02:24] <wj32> simply
[02:24] <wj32> select one with your keyboard
[02:24] <wj32> thats just like grub
[02:24] <mina_linux_Tux> ajehuk: what about reconstructor ?
[02:24] <mistone> I want two icons I can switch between
[02:24] <sohum> jrib: first error I get is
[02:24] <wj32> tbuss: don't.
[02:24] <mistone> instead of text
[02:24] <sohum> jrib:  Use of \\htmladdnormallink doesn't match its definition.
[02:24] <sohum> \text@command #1->\def \reserved@a {
[02:24] <sohum>                                     #1}\ifx \reserved@a \@empty \let \check@...
[02:24] <wj32> tbuss: unless you didnt install it using apt
[02:25] <tbuss> wj32: mysql was installed in synaptic
[02:25] <wj32> tbuss: are you getting an error when you uninstall them?
[02:25] <ffm> HOW DO i restart apache?
[02:25] <wj32> ffm: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[02:25] <jrib> sohum: and you are compiling a latex document that previously compiled without errors?
[02:25] <vox754> sohum, Texlive 2007?
[02:25] <egoant> Hello!
[02:25] <sohum> jrib: and then i get a lot of extra }, or forgotten /endgroup
[02:25] <tbuss> wj32: just having a nightmare trying to install gallery2 with apache, thought I would try the whole thing over from scratch
[02:25] <wj32> Hallo.
[02:26] <sohum> jrib: it used to, es
[02:26] <egoant> I am having some strange issues with Feisty
[02:26] <egoant> My cube workspaces quit on me.
[02:26] <sohum> vox754: latest feisty texlive
[02:26] <wj32> tbuss: manually remove what you installed manually.
[02:26] <egoant> Sort of mior, but still puzzling
[02:26] <wj32> tbuss: apt remove what you apt installed.
[02:26] <mina_linux_Tux> any comment
[02:27] <wj32> egoant: enable cubes?
[02:27] <ajehuk> tbuss : how's it going?
[02:27] <tbuss> wj32: when I use apt it seems as though the applications don't completely remove.
[02:27] <sohum> jrib: and, i haven't checked it, but i think it also compiles fine on another feisty machine i have
[02:27] <vox754> sohum, I would download Texlive straight form CTAN, it is massive though, one DVD.
[02:27] <tbuss> ajehuk: you don't want to know :)
[02:27] <wj32> tbuss: purge / completely remove configuration
[02:27] <egoant> That's the weird thing, I did eable them, then I tried dsabling them and re-enabling them
[02:27] <sohum> vox754: *shudder*
[02:27] <ajehuk> tbuss - dont tell me - now its *really* broke.. :)
[02:27] <egoant> The weird thing is, f I switch to any workspace but the first, I lose my interface.
[02:27] <tbuss> wj32: okay, purge will do the trick, for apt installed, manual or both
[02:28] <wj32> tbuss: sudo apt-get purge ...
[02:28] <sohum> vox754: is there an easier way? can't i use the repositories?
[02:28] <egoant> I'm left with my desktop image and whatever icons are on my destop
[02:28] <tbuss> wj32: I will give it try, thanks
[02:28] <mister_roboto> does anyone know if truecrypt will ever be part of ubuntu's repos? any plans?
[02:28] <atselby> 
[02:28] <EvilDennisR> 
[02:28] <gene6482> Intel 82801g sound card with conexant chip not functional everything appears to be in good shape, aplay works, but no sound is output, help!!
[02:28] <wj32> tbuss: apt. unless you've messed with the apt installed packages.
[02:28] <san_diego_guy> hi... can anyone recommend a good editor for Ubuntu with tab editing, multiple syntax highlighting and FTP support?
[02:28] <AbuSami> I want to install automake1.6 using apt, what should I do ?
[02:28] <tbuss> ajehuk: I've messed with a lot these passed couple of days :)
[02:28] <wj32> gene6482: works on windows or not?
[02:29] <EvilDennisR> san_diego_guy: gedit ?
[02:29] <gene6482> wj32 yes
[02:29] <ajehuk> wj32 - tbuss wouldnt do that, he wouldnt delete stuff that is managed by apt - would you tbuss -
[02:29] <Faugn> AbuSami: distributed filesystem development libraries
[02:29] <Faugn> libpam-openafs-kaserver - AFS distributed filesystem kaserver PAM module
[02:29] <wj32> san_diego_guy: by multiple syntax highlighting do you mean
[02:29] <EvilDennisR> san_diego_guy: i dunno if it has ftp support though..
[02:29] <Faugn> AbuSami: sorry
[02:29] <jrib> sohum: when you said "weird updates from elsewhere", what did you mean?
[02:29] <Faugn> AbuSami: apt-get install automake1.6
[02:29] <sohum> jrib: again, i'm not sure
[02:29] <mina_linux_Tux> does anyone used reconstructor before ?
[02:29] <wj32> san_diego_guy: html is coloured and javascript is as well?
[02:29] <tbuss> ajehuk: sure?
[02:29] <wj32> san_diego_guy: in the same page.
[02:29] <AbuSami> Faugn: its not available !
[02:29] <san_diego_guy> @evil: i don't think gedit has FTP support... i need that to edit and save files directly via FTP
[02:29] <ajehuk> tbuss - where did you get to?
[02:29] <sohum> jrib: all i have for certain is that a system installed with feisty cd and texlive packages then grabbed works fine
[02:29] <jrib> sohum: can you pastebin a document that fails to compile?
[02:29] <cafuego> san_diego_guy: vim!
[02:29] <wj32> gene6482: duno
[02:30] <vox754> sohum, I would definitely recommend getting it from CTAN. It is worth it. The DVD stuff can be run live and it can also be installed; there is also a CD which can only be installed.
[02:30] <ajehuk> tbuss - sorting it out I mean (obviously)
[02:30] <EvilDennisR> san_diego_guy: Why are you using ftp? Its unsecure =)
[02:30] <vipwoody>  I am a new Linux User, Im fed up with Windows Vista thats why I'm trying to make a change and move to Linux. I saw Ubuntu, and Fiesty Fawn as a new release. I downloaded it, and I am trying it right now. It is really amazing, I like it a lot. But since I am new to Linux, I need some help concerning the "nVidia driver" download + install. I have a GeForce 4 VGA, and I need its driver for the effects to work. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
[02:30] <tbuss> ajehuk: I managed to find myself at the gallery2 gonfig page
[02:30] <san_diego_guy> @wj32: yes... HTML, Javascript, PHP, all color-tagged appropriately in the same page
[02:30] <Faugn> AbuSami: indeed!
[02:30] <cafuego> san_diego_guy: If you need something graphical, 'bluefish' is really nice.
[02:30] <sohum> jrib: all i have jrib: and another one that's been brought up from edgy doesn't
[02:30] <AbuSami> Faugn: automake1.4 is
[02:30] <gene6482> wj32 i'm completely stumped, and i've found a lot of people with the same problem, but no answers
[02:30] <san_diego_guy> @cafuego: i'll check out vim
[02:30] <ajehuk> tbuss - so apache2 is working ok now?
[02:30] <Faugn> AbuSami: 1.7 too recent?
[02:30] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: did you mean to use the current Samba share, the "/home/downstairs/Desktop/winxpmtdir" as a 2-way dir? (cause thats the one i cant access)
[02:30] <wj32> vipwoody: whats your actual problem?
[02:30] <Pelo> san_diego_guy,  I beleive you can mount your ftp as a network drive,   gedit will save to that
[02:30] <sohum> jrib: is all of it necessary, or just the preamble?
[02:30] <san_diego_guy> cafuego: i'll check bluefish out to
[02:30] <tbuss> ajehuk: apache2/php4/mysql finally installed as advertised
[02:30] <mina_linux_Tux> does anyone has an idea or experienced with Reconstruction ?
[02:31] <jrib> sohum: just something that gives you the same error
[02:31] <wj32> gene6482: i dont know sorry :(
[02:31] <sohum> vox754: as ubuntu packages, or will I have to compile it?
[02:31] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - I thought you could access it in your ubuntu box...
[02:31] <san_diego_guy> pelo: really?  i can do that?  mount it as a drive?  that would be cool
[02:31] <AbuSami> Faugn:  can I  use 1.7 instead of 1.6 ?
[02:31] <ajehuk> tbuss - well that is good news...
[02:31] <wj32> vipwoody: more detailed.
[02:31] <vipwoody> wj32, I don't know how to install/download the Nvidia Driver
[02:31] <Lilacor> vipwoody: You should be able to run 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common' and then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for the driver to work properly.
[02:31] <ajehuk> tbuss - so problems now with gallery itself?
[02:31] <san_diego_guy> evildennis: FTP is unsecure, but i don't think i have much of a choice :-(
[02:31] <Faugn> AbuSami: maybe, might work, why do you need 1.6?
[02:31] <Pelo> san_diego_guy,  places , netowork server , foloow the instructions
[02:31] <wj32> san_diego_guy: bluefish doesnt have multi-syntax hilighting
[02:31] <tbuss> ajehuk: not anymore, config didn't go so well, lots of errors
[02:31] <AbuSami> Faugn:  KDE develop
[02:32] <wj32> vipwoody: have you downloaded the driver yet?
[02:32] <vipwoody> Lilacor, I am new to Linux and Ubuntu.... please be easy with me :D
[02:32] <vipwoody> wj32, no I dont know from where
[02:32] <Lilacor> vipwoody: First open up a terminal
[02:32] <tbuss> ajehuk: never got a chance to see what gallery2 could do
[02:32] <vipwoody> Lilacor, okay
[02:32] <wj32> vipwoody: follow Lilacor
[02:32] <san_diego_guy> pelo: thanks... installed ubuntu last night... like it to far... coming from XP and only dual booting so i can play WoW and run Adobe PhotoShop & Lightroom
[02:32] <vox754> sohum, no, as you should know, Latex is just a few binaries and lots of scripts, definition, classes, packages, files. It installs automatically... I can't quite explain. No compilation required.
[02:32] <Pelo> san_diego_guy,  maybe that wasn'T it, but it can be done,  I did it in dapper,  I just didn,t need it much so I didn''t do it again
[02:32] <AbuSami> Faugn: it works, thanks to you :)
[02:32] <user01> is there beryl for ubuntu?
[02:32] <Faugn> AbuSami: yeah, the site says automake >= 1.6
[02:32] <Lilacor> vipwoody: next, run 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common'
[02:32] <sohum> user01: yes
[02:32] <wj32> user01: yes.
[02:33] <sohum> vox754... ok
[02:33] <wj32> user01: i use the svn resps
[02:33] <bludevil> trying to copy my thunderbird profile /home/user/.mozilla-thunderbird from an old Ubuntu machine to a new one (old drive installed in the new machine) but in trying to open that hidden folder i get You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of ".mozilla-thunderbird".  How do I change permissions to allow me to copy the contents to my new .mozilla-thunderbird folder?
[02:33] <tbuss> ajehuk: I tracked my progress from start to end, I'm looking over the details right now.
[02:33] <mina_linux_Tux> does anyone has an idea or experienced with Reconstruction ?
[02:33] <Pelo> san_diego_guy,   wow will run on wine,  use the gimp  instead of photoshop , but I don'T know what lightthing is
[02:33] <reep> !beryl | user01
[02:33] <ubotu> user01: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:33] <user01> sohum: cant find the package . . .
[02:33] <Lilacor> vipwoody: next, press 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to restart your window server.
[02:33] <san_diego_guy> cool everyone... i will be checking out vim and bluefish and see which one works best for me... really like Ubuntu so far
[02:33] <mina_linux_Tux> may anyone answer me
[02:33] <wj32> bludevil: open up a terminal
[02:33] <eegore> the adi protocol is just not loading
[02:33] <tbuss> ajehuk: I thought I would try from scratch, I removed most of what I installed and reinstalled
[02:33] <Lilacor> vipwoody: You'll know if your drivers are properly installed if you see an Nvidia logo.
[02:33] <ajehuk> tbuss - Im not familiar with gallery2 - but if you get your LAMP rig set up OK that should be your aim, everything else *should* purley related to the php/mysql stuff that is gallery
[02:33] <bludevil> wj32: done
[02:33] <Pelo> mina_linux_Tux,   you only have 3 hrs left  try looking into cloning your hdd
[02:33] <xyz-abc> ajehuk, I can access "/home/downstairs/myxpmtdir" only from my Ubuntu PC
[02:33] <AbuSami> Faugn: thanks so much , every thing is  okay now ..
[02:33] <wj32> bludevil: sudo chown -Rv YOURUSER:YOURUSER ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[02:34] <tbuss> ajehuk: apache2 is working!
[02:34] <mina_linux_Tux> Pelo: i'm asking about this reconstructor
[02:34] <tbuss> ajehuk: I'm having a horrible time with php and mysql
[02:34] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - erm - that is a directory on your (nasty, evil, etc.. ) windows box though isnt it...
[02:34] <mina_linux_Tux> Pelo: it makes a Live CD or an installation CD
[02:34] <CppIsWeird> how do you force remove a directory if there is something in it?
[02:34] <bludevil> wj32:  thx....i'll give it a shot
[02:34] <san_diego_guy> pelo: Lightroom is a digital photo workflow and database... nothing equivalent on linux... as for GIMP, i know it's comparable to PS, but i just like PS better :-(.... as for WoW... it seems such a hassle to get it working with wine and ventrilo at the same time... and i'm too new to ubuntu to have to worry about it when killing horde... LOL
[02:34] <xyz-abc> no....
[02:34] <wj32> CppIsWeird: rm -r mydir
[02:34] <spikeb> rm -r
[02:34] <tbuss> ajehuk: I was almost there to, just right at the end everything went south
[02:34] <glen> where can i download 7.04rc?
[02:34] <ajehuk> tbuss - good job that in addition to being a net admin I do web design then isnt it... :(
[02:34] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: well which one were you talking about?
[02:34] <orac7000> I killed my gnome desktop by resizing my taskbar height, now I can't log into a gnome session, which config file should I be looking at?
[02:35] <user01> wj32: what repository do i have to add for edge to get it?
[02:35] <Pelo> san_diego_guy,  fair enough
[02:35] <mina_linux_Tux> may anyone answer me
[02:35] <reep> user01: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu these guides explains how to install beryl on ubuntu
[02:35] <audiorecord> hello, my wireless is working through this pcmcia card I have. My problem is it connects to any network that is available freely. I do not want thsi to happen. I want it to connect to my network by default
[02:35] <user01> reep: thanks
[02:35] <wj32> user01: http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/edgy/beryl-svn/
[02:35] <xyz-abc> mina_linux_Tux, you silly there is no such a thing as a constructor
[02:36] <san_diego_guy> pelo: ROFL
[02:36] <cyris> anyone know of an application that I could use for my built in isight camera ?
[02:36] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - what you have done so far - I believe is mounted a share (being served by the windows box) onto your ubuntu box.  You have said ( I think ) that the ubuntu box is good, that you can see and use the windows share - if that is correct then you shuold be able to use that share to transfer files in both directions...
[02:36] <tbuss> ajehuk: When I tried to test the link for the php file, instead of opening in the browser, I would get a prompt to save or open the file, not the result I wanted
[02:36] <ajehuk> tbuss - php misconfiguration
[02:36] <mina_linux_Tux> xyz-abc: i'm asking , if it makes an installable or Live CD
[02:37] <xyz-abc> in know mina, im just annoying you
[02:37] <sohum> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15712/
[02:37] <ajehuk> tbuss - the apache server isnt processing the php files, presumably as it doesnt now what to do with them...
[02:37] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - :)
[02:37] <pirothezero> i just want to say that I just plugged in my pos sony camera into usb on my laptop and it auto detected to transfer photos, wtg ubuntu i was planning a struggle over getting that to work
[02:37] <sohum> jrib: that breaks after pdflatex hssac.tex; bibtex hssac, pdflatex hssac.tex
[02:37] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: yes, I can do that, but I just attempted to transfer a huge file and the speed is approximately 1 mb / minute
[02:37] <tbuss> ajehuk: so who configures to whom, php to apache or vice versa
[02:37] <Raubkopierer> Hello...
[02:37] <wj32> pirothezero: whats wtg?
[02:37] <reep> tbuss: there should be some symlinks called php5.load and php5.conf in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ do you have those?
[02:37] <ajehuk> ajehuk - you are probably looking at an issue with apache - we can test that tho
[02:38] <retarded> user01, still there?
[02:38] <Pelo> pirothezero,  sorry to hear that, I guess you'll just have to find a new chanlenge now
[02:38] <audiorecord> can anyone tell me how to specify the default network to be connected on wlassistant?
[02:38] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - that may be a network issue - especially if your router includes a hub not a switch - or one of the connections is wireless...
[02:38] <tbuss> reep: i decided to install php4 last night, it seems gallery works witht hat best?, but yes the files are there
[02:38] <pirothezero> wj32, way to go
[02:38] <pirothezero> pelo: theres always sata hotswap :)
[02:39] <pirothezero> need to update to 2.6.20 for that though =|
[02:39] <wj32> pirothezero: ok
[02:39] <ajehuk> reep - hello again (deja-vu) :)
[02:39] <sohum> pirothezero: wtg is not recognized by wtf, so it is not allowed to be used ;)
[02:39] <tbuss> reep: I had tried to use php5 but apache kept looking for the php4.load even after I deleted it
[02:39] <wj32> pirothezero: the memory stick is just like a usb drive. nothing hard
[02:39] <san_diego_guy> thanks everyone for helping with my question re: a good editor... will try vim and bluefish later tonight.  i'll be in the channel but AFK for a bit.  Thanks again!
[02:40] <sohum> san_diego_guy: vim rocks, btw
[02:40] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: just to clarify: I'm already using Samba, right? just not "fully".. I know I don't have smbclient package installed
[02:40] <pirothezero> no your're right just had a feeling tha tsony was going to screw me over some how
[02:40] <gene6482> hey everyone, i'm having some issues getting my intel 82801g sound card working using alsa snd-hda-intel driver, any help would be greatly appreciated
[02:40] <pirothezero> and put some lame ass block in the way
[02:40] <mina_linux_Tux> may anyone answer me , does this reconstructor make live or installable CD ?
[02:40] <pirothezero> i see threads in the forums about cameras and stuff and it was the first time I even bothered connecting mine
[02:40] <Pelo> mina_linux_Tux,  either I think
[02:40] <ajehuk> xyz-abc... if you have access to the windows shares then you have enough samba installed...
[02:40] <wj32> pirothezero: those users are stupid
[02:40] <pirothezero> :>
[02:40] <reep> ajehuk: hehe, someone should file a bug on php
[02:41] <reep> tbuss: should only have either php5.* or php4.* in the mods-enabled dir
[02:41] <sohum> jrib: you there?
[02:41] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: ok so its a networking issue, i guess i'll play around with my setup
[02:41] <jrib> sohum: yes
[02:41] <MrMakeveli> how big should a partion for /boot be?
[02:41] <ajehuk> reep - bug? what bug - everything works fine for me here - EBCK if ever I saw one.. :)
[02:41] <sohum> jrib: did you have a look?
[02:41] <atselby> faugn?
[02:41] <Lilacor> MrMakeveli: big enough for the images you need to place in there
[02:41] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - it is most likley that that is the case - if you are able to se both, and transfer files then it may well be a network issue...
[02:42] <MrMakeveli> lilacer: what images?
[02:42] <Powerking89670> Hello everyone, im attempting to install Beryl, and I cant seem to get gdm to stop
[02:42] <nraic> How can I add shortcut to my right mouse click?
[02:42] <tbuss> reep: I had both at one time. But was able to correct the problem, something I was installing I think maybe it wanted apache to use php4?
[02:42] <wj32> MrMakeveli: mines 2gb
[02:42] <Pelo> Powerking89670,  ask in #beryl
[02:42] <wj32> MrMakeveli: even 1gb is enough
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Powerking89670: ask in #ubuntu-effecvts
[02:42] <gnomefreak> effects even
[02:43] <wj32> Powerking89670: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:43] <MrMakeveli> wj32: i was thinking it would be about that
[02:43] <MrMakeveli> is there any reason it would need to excede 1-2gb?
[02:43] <jrib> sohum: yes, but I'm getting different errors so I'm reading over them to see what I did wrong
[02:43] <wj32> MrMakeveli: yes, if you have 10000000 kernels in there
[02:43] <Faugn> atselby: did you manage to start X manually?
[02:44] <firefly2442> tbuss, sounds like you need to install apache2 + PHP in the right order again
[02:44] <ajehuk> tbuss - Gallery claims to require php4 - i.e. php4 is a listed dependency - so you are probably going to need php4.  I say probably because some apps written for php4 will be fine with php5 - some wont - it depends on the php
[02:44] <NkZ> Greetings.
[02:44] <sohum> jrib: i get weird errors involving htmladdnormallink
[02:44] <firefly2442> tbuss, got this package? libapache2-mod-php5
[02:44] <MrMakeveli> i just have the kernel involved w/ ubuntu 6.10
[02:44] <atselby> faugn: no.. i just sent a message.. is it not going through?
[02:44] <NkZ> I wanted to know, Is there a way to Format my Flash Drive on Ubuntu?
[02:44] <nraic> How can I add a shortcut to terminal to my right mouse click menu?
[02:44] <MrMakeveli> a better question would be: what all is in the /boot?
[02:44] <Faugn> atselby: nope
[02:44] <firefly2442> NkZ, gparted should work
[02:44] <wj32> MrMakeveli: but as you do more upgrades, your old kernels are still there
[02:44] <atselby> faugn: <atselby> rebooted.... x never came back up
 sessioned into gnome failsafe. didnt get that error message.
 but i also dont have gnome panels... but. i dunno
 as you said my system's kinda f**ed
[02:44] <ajehuk> tbuss - cancel that - it says php4 OR php5 - Remind me to look and think before posting...
[02:44] <gnomefreak> atselby: please use pastebin
[02:44] <wj32> MrMakeveli: in there are kernels and initrds and grub files
[02:44] <Faugn> atselby: you stopped GDM ?
[02:45] <gene6482> what's the program to add terminal as a right click option?
[02:45] <NkZ> Firefly2442: How does that work?
[02:45] <atselby> gnomefreak: sorry .. it was like 3 messages though.
[02:45] <tbuss> firefly2442: /var/cache/apt/archives/libapache2-mod-php5_5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3_i386.deb
[02:45] <atselby> faugn: yes.
[02:45] <MrMakeveli> ok so lets say
[02:45] <atselby> faugn: and then did x
[02:45] <gnomefreak> 4 but using pastebin is safer
[02:45] <atselby> gnomefreak: k.
[02:45] <Faugn> atselby: and typing only 'X' doesn't start X properly?
[02:45] <wj32> gene6482: open up synaptic, the package name starts with "nautilus-"
[02:45] <atselby> faugn: yes.
[02:46] <tbuss> firefly2442: apache then php
[02:46] <MrMakeveli> i'll have at most a large kernel and default grub shiz, plus some extra wiggle room, what should be enough?
[02:46] <MrMakeveli> 1.5 gib?
[02:46] <MrMakeveli> gb*
[02:46] <Faugn> atselby: what do you get? no display?
[02:46] <wj32> MrMakeveli: yes
[02:46] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli 1.5Gb boot partition?
[02:46] <atselby> faugn: it hangs up
[02:46] <Guest96273> Help!  I cannot get XFCE desktop to load after installing
[02:46] <nraic> Can the shortcut in right mouse click be edited?
[02:46] <MrMakeveli> wj32, ajehuk:yes
[02:46] <jin> what use metacity and what uses GTK?
[02:46] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - you dont need anywhere near that much
[02:46] <tbuss> ajehuk: It's detailed but when you get a chance it might help if you intersted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15713/
[02:46] <jin> I don't really know what metacity is :\
[02:46] <Faugn> atselby: ? you get the pointer and nothing else?
[02:46] <firefly2442> NkZ, are you running edgy right now?
[02:47] <atselby> faugn: yes.
[02:47] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: how big are most peoples boots?
[02:47] <ShiftyPowers> anyone have the easiest way to restore grub if I've booted into a edgy livecd?
[02:47] <wj32> jin: metacity is the window manager. it manages your windows.
[02:47] <Faugn> atselby: so it works, it's just that nothing else is started by default :)
[02:47] <atselby> faugn: when i rebooted back in i did not get that error message this time. to me that sounds good.
[02:47] <sohum> oh, btw, is the f-spot image viewer app supposed to work?
[02:47] <wj32> jin: gtk is the widget toolkit: the buttons, text boxes, combo boxes, scrollbars. so on
[02:47] <jin> and GTK is used to draw the window itself?
[02:47] <atselby> faugn: i cant fathom why it didnt show up but it didnt. now the only thing not working is gnome-panel which i can live without for now.
[02:47] <atselby> faugn: oh.
[02:47] <wj32> jin: the X server draws the window contents
[02:47] <atselby> faugn: well okay. XD
[02:48] <Faugn> atselby: ah, ok
[02:48] <Guest96273> Help!  I cannot get XFCE desktop to load after installing
[02:48] <atselby> faugn: i shoudl be able to get to session manager now right?
[02:48] <jrib> sohum: heh, it's supposed to
[02:48] <firefly2442> tbuss, this might help, make sure you do it in the right order http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Apache_HTTP_Server
[02:48] <tbuss> reep: there is a php4.load but no config
[02:48] <wj32> jin: metacity enables you to move windows, minimize them, bring them to the top, alt+tab so on
[02:48] <atselby> does anyone know the command for the session manager?
[02:48] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - the partition I have set is 100Mb, my kernel is 1.2M, initrd is 4.2 Mb, the rest of the stuff I have inthere (grub etc.. comes to a massive 32mb)
[02:48] <Faugn> atselby: so, just to be clear, you can login with GDM, just no gnome-panel?
[02:48] <thingy> jin, what's jin stand for? your name or initials?
[02:49] <atselby> faugn: yes this time it did that.
[02:49] <atselby> faugn: i tend to leave this computer logged in and just in hibernate over night so i should be safe if its the kernel problem until the update.
[02:49] <sohum> jrib: becasue wheneer I click it, nothing happens. Also, its icon is blank
[02:49] <jin> thingy, just a nick I I use
[02:49] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - give yourself a little space - especially if you are going to play about, but 250Mb should be more than enough, you can probably live with 100Mb, but it does depend on how much you intend to play.
[02:49] <atselby> faugn: would you happen to know the command for session manager?
[02:49] <atselby> its not gnome-session-manager..
[02:49] <jrib> sohum: what happens if you run 'f-spot' in a terminal?
[02:49] <wj32> ajehuk: mines a total of 60mb
[02:49] <sohum> jrib: f-spot photo *manager* works fine
[02:49] <Faugn> atselby: search it right now :)
[02:50] <tbuss> firefly2442: when I test the link on the howto I get the dir I have posted, I even see the testphp.php file I'm supposed to delete
[02:50] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: thats exactly what i was thinking and hoping to know
[02:50] <thingy> jin, ah...i use it to sometimes...first three letters of my name...hence i asked. :-)
[02:50] <sohum> jrib: f-spot photo manager runs
[02:50] <atselby> faugn: k
[02:50] <Faugn> atselby: gnome-session-properties, maybe?
[02:50] <Guest96273> Help!  I cannot get XFCE desktop to load after installing
[02:50] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: 250mb it is
[02:50] <reep> tbuss: try making the conf symlink: ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.conf
[02:50] <sohum> jrib: but the photo viewer never worked
[02:50] <atselby> gah
[02:50] <ajehuk> wj32 - MrMakeveli (see wj32's comment) yeah - its peanuts, no need to allocate 1.5Gb
[02:50] <wj32> ajehuk: my kernels 1.5M, initrd is 7mb
[02:50] <reep> tbuss: (with sudo)
[02:50] <jin> thingy, lol, it's the first three letters of my name too
[02:50] <jin> :D
[02:50] <Faugn> atselby: use completion in the shell
[02:50] <atselby> faugn: error
[02:50] <Faugn> atselby: gnome-
[02:50] <jrib> sohum: how do you access it?
[02:50] <atselby> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15714/
[02:50] <Raubkopierer> I have a problem with Ndiswrapper... I have no Device wlan0 in ifconfig
[02:50] <Juancab> Please help, I do as it says in this tutorial: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_8.28.8_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[02:50] <Faugn> atselby: and then tab
[02:50] <wj32> atselby: gnome-session
[02:50] <tbuss> reep: okay, will give it a shot
[02:50] <larsbars> hi: i'm running feisty on a core duo laptop and speedstep-centrino fails to load (it worked twice). anybody else experience this problem?
[02:51] <Faugn> wj32: for the properties? not to start?
[02:51] <sohum> jrib: Menu -> Graphics -> F-spot photo viewer
[02:51] <MrMakeveli> wj32: thanks for the help too
[02:51] <atselby> wj32: just opens a session. im trying to get to session manager
[02:51] <atselby> ill mess with this later . ive gotta run
[02:51] <ajehuk> wj32 - Im running etch with a custom kernel, and have the canilla kernel sat as a spare, and I am still only using 30 odd percent of the available space....
[02:51] <sohum> jrib: it's never worked for me, not since dapper
[02:51] <atselby> thanks guys for the help its working to a usable state now
[02:51] <ajehuk> *vanilla
[02:51] <wj32> Faugn: system -> preferences -> sessions
[02:51] <Guest96273> Help!  I cannot get XFCE desktop to load after installing
[02:52] <jrib> sohum: can you check what binary that is running?  I don't have that menu option
[02:52] <Faugn> wj32: atselby has no gnome panel anymore :)
[02:52] <sohum> jrib: ok
[02:52] <ajehuk> Guest96273 - any output as to why it isnt loading? could you describe what is happening?
[02:52] <poningru> Guest96273: are you selecting it from sessions? at login screen?
[02:52] <Faugn> should be gnome-session-properties
[02:52] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: any recommendations for other partitions and their sizes? i am looking at a /boot @ 250mb, /var @ (someones recommendation) and a /home @ (remainder of hd)
[02:52] <dmarkey> how do i change the default x server from xgl to xorg
[02:52] <tbuss> reep: should I test that with localhost  with index.php?
[02:53] <MrMakeveli> or if anyone else can help that'd be appreciated too
[02:53] <Juancab> I've tryied to install ATI drives and now I can't enter ubuntu, please help
[02:53] <gan|y|med> hi
[02:53] <wj32> dmarkey: xgl runs on top of xorg
[02:53] <Guest96273> after I loaded the package I rebooted.  tried the startxfce command but error said it was not found.
[02:53] <firefly2442> MrMakeveli, I usually just have it automatically choose, my boot is about 800MB and that's plenty
[02:53] <reep> tbuss: you'll need to restart apache2 first, then test on a php-file
[02:53] <tbuss> reep: ok
[02:53] <richardsonh> anyone know a good tutorial to for scanning your windows partition with clamav?
[02:53] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - var is the interesting one - it is where you store logs etc, but also where apt keeps its cache and any mail servers etc.. keep mail spools so it does need to be fairly big (1-3Gb) but how big depends on use
[02:53] <compilerwriter> anyone have any luck getting Ubuntu, or for that matter any flavour of linux, to work with and adsl modem via usb interface?
[02:53] <dmarkey> wj32, well xgl become the new x server
[02:53] <MrMakeveli> firefly: do you have any other recommendations?
[02:54] <gan|y|med> pls, does anybody know why the fglrx-driver package does not install fglrx.ko??
[02:54] <lunaz> hi, i'm having trouble ripping my cds to mp3 format. i installed the gstreamer plugins from synaptic, have amarok, have the mp3 profile done on soundjuicer according to the directions. i try to extract, says its successful, then comes up w a 30 mb file that dont play anything but some squeaks from my speakers
[02:54] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: would 3gb keep me in the clear?
[02:54] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - remember to allocate at least 1Gb to / (your root) or you wont have any space to actually isntall anything (i.e. in /bin /usr /lib etc..)
[02:54] <Faugn> richardsonh: there is a clamav frontend: klamav
[02:54] <firefly2442> MrMakeveli, for partition sizes?
[02:54] <sohum> jrib: [Desktop Entry]  Categories=Application;Graphics;Viewer;GNOME;GTK Encoding=UTF-8  Exec=f-spot --view %u
[02:54] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - probably - unless you start running a mail server and have more than 3Gb of mail...
[02:54] <MrMakeveli> firefly: whoops you are right
[02:54] <richardsonh> compilerwriter, I tried at one point and time, but finally just begged my ISP for a ethernet modem.
[02:54] <Pelo> Faugn,  donT' you mean clamtk
[02:55] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - doesnt the installer offer recomendations for a multi partition system?
[02:55] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: i wouldnt mind running a file server, but i dont intend on storing mail. my gmail keeps me safe hahah
[02:55] <jrib> sohum: yeah, you should see what is going on if you try running 'f-spot --view' in a terminal
[02:55] <tbuss> reep: http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ prompts to open of save file  http://localhost/testphp.php Unable to connect
[02:55] <Faugn> Pelo: don't know this one, havn't tried klamav either, but it's here: klamav - KDE frontend for ClamAV
[02:55] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - Oh and remember to create a swap partition too...
[02:55] <Hasrat_USA> folks first of all don't assume that i'm a noob but all i wanna know very quickly is how to download and install some mouse cursor icon themes for my kubuntu that wouldn't break my current configuration. thanks
[02:55] <compilerwriter> I understand the feelikng richardsonh I was just hoping like hell that someone knew somthing I ddidnt.
[02:55] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: not that i have seen. there was online documenation but the page offering help is 404
[02:55] <richardsonh> compilerwriter, I mean if you don't have an option at all, you can share the connection via a windows machine....it's not the best way.
[02:55] <Pelo> Faugn,  ah,  clamtk is for gnome
[02:56] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: yse thats right, i meant to do a swap too, maybe at a gig or two?
[02:56] <firefly2442> MrMakeveli, oh yeah, for the swap partition, I would recommend at lest 2x the size of your RAM
[02:56] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - I meant within the installer itself once you get to the disk partitioning part
[02:56] <misterE``> i'm in a jam, and hope someone can help me...i have an ubuntu fileserver with a data drive mounted to /media/data and access it through samba on the network from my winders box.  I deleted a couple photos from windows explorer and i, of course, need them back.  They aren't in the windows trash or linux trash that i can find
[02:56] <richardsonh> compilerwriter, What modem/isp are you using?
[02:56] <compilerwriter> Pelo Faun I use klamav and it seems to work really well at catching stuff that comes my way.
[02:56] <reep> tbuss: hm... I'm looking at your pastebin, when you removed the php5 packages did you just remove them or also purge them?
[02:56] <misterE``> i tried searching with updatedb/locate, but it isn't finding them
[02:56] <Faugn> Pelo: ok, so not in TK? good!
[02:56] <mina_linux_Tux> i have a ubuntu 6.10 CD is there a way to re-write grub to the MBR
[02:57] <tbuss> reep: i removed those with synaptic
[02:57] <richardsonh> !grub > mina_linux_Tux
[02:57] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: with grub-install
[02:57] <firefly2442> mina_linux_Tux, did Windows overwrite it on you?
[02:57] <reep> tbuss: and libapache2-mod-php5 should also be purged
[02:57] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: im sitting at the disk partitioning part. it says a few small things like "256 for swap" etc
[02:57] <Hasrat_USA> misterE may be you permanently deleted 'em?
[02:57] <MrMakeveli> but iw as hoping to get some peoples opinions
[02:57] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - swap again depends on use, the old rule of thumb was 2xRAM, but in reality for a desktop that has 1Gb + RAM you probaly dont need to go much above 512Mb, - if you find yuo are using it all you can always resize it later..
[02:57] <Juancab> please help, I can't open ubuntu
[02:57] <thingy> misterE``, What's the filesystem on the samba box?
[02:57] <sohum> jrib: apparently it needs a path
[02:57] <reep> tbuss: in synaptic you can also choose to remove and purge
[02:57] <ajehuk> mr
[02:57] <jrib> sohum: right
[02:57] <tbuss> reep: /var/cache/apt/archives/libapache2-mod-php5_5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3_i386.deb is that it
[02:57] <misterE``> thingy: ext3
[02:57] <compilerwriter> richardsonh My brother-in-law has a speedstream through AT&T, he doesn't have a nic card to use the cat5 connection on it.  He is interested in trying linux, and I am just trying to find a way to help him without spending any money.
[02:57] <mina_linux_Tux> firefly2442: i'm trying to restore grub menu after re-ghosting
[02:57] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: good point, i will do 512 then
[02:57] <sohum> jrib: although if the path doesn not contain pictures it'll be just as happy
[02:58] <richardsonh> compilerwriter, no onboard ethernet?
[02:58] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - some people get away with using none...
[02:58] <compilerwriter> Of course the obviouse solution is to just spring $10.00 for a nic card.
[02:58] <reep> tbuss: removing a package only removes the binaries and libraries, the configuration (in /etc/apache2/ for one) remains, purging also removes the config files
[02:58] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: use grub-install
[02:58] <tbuss> reep: I saw an option to remove completely but was afraid other applications might go down withit
[02:58] <sohum> jrib: is this a bug? if so, is this an f-spot bug?
[02:58] <misterE``> i only deleted them through explorer, so i hope they should be in a trash bin somewhere
[02:58] <cyris> mm i feel like some unreal tournament 1999 :D
[02:58] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk, i am trying to do it right though!
[02:58] <tbuss> reep: oh
[02:58] <Hasrat_USA> ajehk i have one gig ddr ram and i mistakenly allocated 3, yes 3 GB of Hard Drive space for GNU/Linux's swap partition. how can i change it back to 512 MB without breaking anything in my current configuration?
[02:58] <MrMakeveli> haha
[02:58] <bulmer> compilerwriter: 10/100M nic cards are dirt cheap
[02:58] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - whilst on my ipaq (PDA) I use 4xmemory so its a variable
[02:58] <sohum> jrib: shouldn't f-spot --view without a path default to the home directory or something?
[02:58] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: grub-install ? from where or how
[02:58] <tbuss> reep: that would explain a lot :)
[02:58] <compilerwriter> nope richardsonh no on board ethernet.  He has a hand me down machine where the person used dialup.
[02:58] <richardsonh> mina_linux_Tux, My boss is trying to figure out the same thing, I haven't sat down with it to help him though.
[02:58] <MrMakeveli> ajehuK: i'll do 512 and i'll do some tests to see what kind of swap is being used. i can adjust later if need be
[02:59] <jrib> sohum: you could argue that, file a wishlist bug in f-spot's bug tracker if you rhink so.
[02:59] <thingy> misterE``, To your knowledge, have you setup samba with recycle bin functionality?
[02:59] <sohum> jrib: ok
[02:59] <Hasrat_USA> MisterE It doesn't matter how you deleted what. the fact is that if you delete something 'permanently', it's just gone but there are some hard and geeky way you can recover 'permanently' deleted files though
[02:59] <ajehuk> reep - tbuss - this is what I was driving at yesterday when I suggested reinstalling apache (which rewrites the configs) and purging php4
[02:59] <Hasrat_USA> *ways
[02:59] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: you boot with the ubuntu CD, then, if you have only one HD, sudo grub-install '(hd0)', should do the trick
[02:59] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: .....?
[02:59] <misterE``> thingy: not that i'm aware of
[02:59] <ajehuk> *can re-write the configs
[03:00] <compilerwriter> I know the nic cards don't cost much, but right now we both are watching every penny.  I am just trying to avoid the expenditure if it can be helped.
[03:00] <richardsonh> compilerwriter, Yeah, a 10/100 pci card is really dirt cheap http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124099
[03:00] <firefly2442> anyone here use bazaar version control?
[03:00] <Juancab> please help, I can't open ubuntu after trying to instal ati drivers
[03:00] <Shaba1> hello
[03:00] <Shaba1> how do I destry a saves seesson
[03:00] <starz> right
[03:00] <Hasrat_USA> juancab you installed the drivers using Envy?
[03:00] <misterE``> Hasrat_USA: when deleting a file in either OS by itself, it moves it to a trash can somewhere usually before actually being removed.  I hope to avoid any nonsense with mc or lsof, but i'll do what i have to
[03:00] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: if, when rebooting, it doesn't find the config file, you can use the command line, with something like: config (hd0)/boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:00] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: boot with the ubuntu 6.10 installation CD and select what from the menu
[03:00] <starz> installed that 2.6.17-50-386 kernel
[03:00] <starz> but i cant seem to get nvidia drivers to work
[03:01] <vio> hey :D
[03:01] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: you start it normaly
[03:01] <tbuss> ajehuk: reep: so I can safetly purge apache2 reinstall, and then cont with the rest of process? everything needs apache to be in place and config properly so it can install and config?
[03:01] <vio> can i switch from feisty 32-bit to 64bit?
[03:01] <thingy> misterE``, ok. you are out of luck in trying to recover the file directly on the samba box. Now is there any chance you opened these photos in something that keeps a cache, like internet explorer/firefox etc?
[03:01] <aA|Frantic> is there an ubuntu equiv to sfc /scannow?
[03:01] <starz> anyone got a good guide i can read in tty-console-browser for instructions on edgy?
[03:01] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: with the live option
[03:01] <mistone> is there a tourtial for installing windows XP AFTER I installed ubuntu ?
[03:01] <dmarkey> its not possible
[03:02] <richardsonh> mistone,  thats easy
[03:02] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: ubuntu alternate CD isn't a live one , it's an installation one , what i have to select
[03:02] <misterE``> no, but the furstrating thing is, they're in Adobe Lightroom (photos) and they keep a 1:1 preview of them available, but i don't see any way to save it from there
[03:02] <Faugn> mistone: usually a very bad idea, installing windows after linux.....
[03:02] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: ha...
[03:02] <Faugn> mmm
[03:02] <firefly2442> mistone, your MBR will get messed up after installing Windows
[03:02] <compilerwriter> mistone it is always better to install ubuntu after windows in my experience.  Windows does not play nicely with other operating systems.
[03:02] <misterE``> thingy: i can't export from lightroom or anything without the orig in place
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[03:02] <Juancab> Hasrat_USA: No, I've followed this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_8.28.8_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[03:02] <MrMakeveli> ok so everyone, the plan so far is: on a 160 gb hd --> /boot @ 250mb, /swap @ 512mb, /var @ 2gb (?), /home @ 120gb, and / @ remainder
[03:02] <firefly2442> mistone, you can do it but it's sorta a pain
[03:02] <ajehuk> tbuss - thats my reading of it - if you are using all apt packages I might go as far as to remove php5/4 and apache2 and then just install gallery - letting gallery take care of its own dependencies and configuration for them - you will *need* to purge when you uninstall apache and php4/5 - and this will get rid of anyexisting bits you have....
[03:02] <reep> tbuss: to get a clean start, I would purge all php4* php5* apache2* and libapache2* packages, then install php4 or php5, which should also install apache2 because they depend on it
[03:03] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: does that sound about right?
[03:03] <ajehuk> reep - tbuss - great minds, and thinking alike - methinks
[03:03] <misterE``> thingy: also, if there's a way to set up recycle functionality with this samba share, it'd certainly save me some time in the future!
[03:03] <firefly2442> MrMakeveli, is there a reason your aren't having it automatically partition it?
[03:03] <vio> can i upgrade from 32-bit ubuntu (feisty) to 64-bit (feisty)?
[03:03] <reep> hihi
[03:03] <jimenycricket> Hello, I want to set up a proxy server on my pc for 1-2 users.  Is squid right for me?
[03:03] <crimsun> vio: not easily nor in-place yet.
[03:03] <compilerwriter> mistone I suggest you not install the virus from Redmond Washington at all.  Your machine and you, ultimately, will be better off.
[03:03] <thingy> misterE``, can you view photos in adobe lightroom software? if so, why can't use use a screenshot application to grab a screenshot when viewing the photo. You could every get away using the windows printscreen feature. If the pciture is too big to fit on one screen....use multiple screenshots and stitch the pictures together
[03:04] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - yeah sounds good except there should be no /swap (as its not mounted as such)
[03:04] <MrMakeveli> firefly: default installation doesnt auto-partition, it just does one partition
[03:04] <Juancab> Hasrat_USA: No, I've followed this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_8.28.8_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[03:04] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: if the installed system is Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 , if i'll use ubuntu 4.10 Live CD to reinstall GRUB, does it works
[03:04] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: whoops forgot the swap
[03:04] <mistone> compilerwriter: shut up. I just want to play some games
[03:04] <MrMakeveli> lemme add that
[03:04] <aA|Frantic> is there a system file checker in ubuntu?!??!!
[03:04] <mistone> I have a vista install
[03:04] <jrib> sohum: ok, I got your thing to compile if I got rid of url and changed it to just "http". Does your error persist when you do that?
[03:04] <tbuss> reep: ajehuk: excellent, that is what I will do, did the pastebin help any with the troubleshootng?
[03:04] <mistone> I cannot boot into my vista install
[03:04] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - it should just be a partition formateed in swapfs and available to the OS for swapping to (its set in fstab) it shuold NOT have a mount point
[03:04] <sohum> jrib: let me check
[03:04] <misterE``> thingy: now that's definitately worth a shot, i could get a usable copy that way
[03:04] <Pelo> aA|Frantic,  fsck I think is what you want
[03:05] <retarded> perhaps i should avoid asking stupid questions during peek times . but . im gona reinstall ubuntu tomorow . i played around with it today . all i am wondering is if the /home/ partition is the remaining disk space, and that for whatever reason i decide to reinstall ubuntu , will i lose the /home/ partitions content ?
[03:05] <ajehuk> mistone - that seems like a good thing <- obligatory
[03:05] <thingy> misterE``, good luck
[03:05] <reep> tbuss: yes, very informative :)
[03:05] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: so what should i do? create the partition but not mount it?
[03:05] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: ... any comment ?
[03:05] <mistone> ajehuk: what that my vista install is fryed?
[03:05] <thingy> aA|Frantic, do want something like this: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/warty/admin/aide ?
[03:05] <compilerwriter> Mistone that changes things.  Are you telling me that you had vista and then installed Ubuntu and now can't get to your Vista partition.
[03:05] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: you should be able to use almost any live sytem
[03:05] <misterE``> thingy: thanks, is there a way to set up the recycle functionality you were talking about with samba? i've never heard anything about it
[03:05] <Juancab> please help, I can't open ubuntu after trying to instal ati drivers
[03:06] <mistone> compilerwriter: however the only way to fix it is by installing XP and using vistabootpro
[03:06] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - when you create the partition you should have the option of setting the file system - you would need to set it to something like swap - not being overly familiar with the ubuntu installer Im not sure what the actual process is...
[03:06] <aib> does anyone know why this happens when I ssh? `connect /tmp/.X11-unix/X0: No such file or directory'. ssh -x fixes it, but it seems like my env is messed up
[03:06] <tbuss> reep: ajehuk: I don't mean to eat and run, but I'm sorta excited about trying this out, thanks for your help again, I'll post back with my results, good or bad :)
[03:06] <thingy> misterE``, there is a patch for samba which setups a recyle bin like functionality. am googling for a link one sec
[03:06] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: then, 2 possibilites: grub-install from the live system, or grub-install after a chroot to your installed system
[03:06] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: there is no GRUB Version differences  between ubuntu 4.10 and ubuntu Edgy ?
[03:06] <vio> Juancab: use "fail-safe-gnome" from the log-in window?
[03:06] <mistone> I have a HP computer so I didn't get my recovery CD
[03:06] <reep> retarded: just make sure you choose to manually partition when you get to the partitioning part of the installation, then tell it to mount your home partition to /home, and NOT to format
[03:06] <compilerwriter> Juancab Do you have the live cd.
[03:06] <aA|Frantic> lol thx guys
[03:06] <sohum> jrib: wait, what do you mean by changed it to jsut http?
[03:06] <reep> retarded: I did that recently, worked fine
[03:06] <Juancab> vio: How can I do that, I can't select the session now
[03:06] <knix_> I have a ati 9250 and on feisty when i click restricted drivers it says "my hardware doesnt need any drivers"  please help
[03:07] <compilerwriter> God mistone I have no help for you there.  I wish you luck.
[03:07] <retarded> ty reep
[03:07] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: if you manage to boot on grub, you should be able to start your system, and reinstall it/fix the config
[03:07] <ajehuk> reep - are you fairly familiar with the more recent ubuntu installers?
[03:07] <jrib> sohum: URL="http"
[03:07] <compilerwriter> I understand that gamers need their games.  I was just never into the games that much.
[03:07] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: i take it its the "linux-swap" filesystem selection?
[03:07] <Juancab> vio: I get a blue text intraface with no other option than accept, and then a black screen
[03:07] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - I would say yes.
[03:07] <sohum> jrib: oh. that's not very useful, is it?
[03:07] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: haha
[03:07] <mistone> compilerwriter:  its retarded.
[03:08] <mistone> vista wont boot unless the GUID's are the same...
[03:08] <jrib> we're just trying to figure out the cause of the problem
[03:08] <vio> Juancab: xorg.conf problems (graphics card drivers)
[03:08] <jrib> sohum:
[03:08] <vio> do you have ati or nvida or intel?
[03:08] <Juancab> vio: ATI
[03:08] <reep> ajehuk: I've installed Dapper and Edgy a couple of times... Tried upgrading from dapper to feisty some time ago, but it screwed up beryl, so I just reinstalled edgy
[03:08] <thingy> misterE``, http://www.amherst.edu/~bbstone/howto/samba.html  and ubuntu specific instructions are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155763&highlight=samba+recycle+bin
[03:08] <sohum> jrib: yes?
[03:08] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: another way , is there no way to make an installable CD image from my running ubuntu 6.10 system to be installed on other number of machines ?
[03:08] <Juancab> I've followed this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_8.28.8_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[03:08] <jrib> sohum: we're just trying to figure out the cause of the problem
[03:08] <sohum> jrib: ok
[03:08] <Juancab> vio:  I've followed this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_8.28.8_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[03:08] <misterE``> thingy: ty very much, i'll give it a run
[03:09] <ajehuk> reep - what I meant was - formatiing part - is it still the old style (ala debian) front end or is it all fancy pants these days?
[03:09] <compilerwriter> Like I said, mistone, the folks in Redmond don't like to play nicely.  That is why they had such trouble with anti-trust lawyers a while back.
[03:09] <sohum> jrib: nope, my error is still there
[03:10] <reep> ajehuk: don't know what debian uses, but I was a bit annoyed that I only got two options... Let ubuntu repartition the drive, or do it manually (with gparted)
[03:10] <ajehuk> compilerwriter - what do you mean a while back? they are *still* having problems with anti-trust issues...
[03:10] <stephen> hello?
[03:10] <wj32> 
[03:10] <stephen> cool
[03:10] <reep> ajehuk: I seem to remember that when I installed dapper, I had more choices
[03:10] <Juancab> please help, I can't open ubuntu after trying to instal ati drivers
[03:10] <vio> Juancab: hold on
[03:10] <stephen> do you know how to get beryl working on an ATI card
[03:10] <stephen> without xgl
[03:11] <vio> stephen: aiglx
[03:11] <stephen> yeah
[03:11] <retarded> juancab im new so ask for confirmation . but today  i tryed to run beryl on a recent ati card. conclusion was. you need to install the 8.35 drivers
[03:11] <jrib> sohum: ok, well going back to your reinstall question, why don't you just unisntall texlive and then install it again?
[03:11] <vio> stephen:  #ubuntu-effects
[03:11] <stephen> how do I use that instead
[03:11] <wj32> stephen: you can't. the ati drivers suck too much.
[03:11] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: could you see my replies on private
[03:11] <sohum> jrib: because that breaks a large number of packages
[03:11] <stephen> crap
[03:11] <ajehuk> reep : that clarifies it for me, - yeah cant reember the last version I used but it *was* the standard debian installer albeit for ubuntu, whith the whole range of options - guided partitionaing manual, auto all in one etc..
[03:11] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: nope...
[03:11] <knix_> when I try to install the ati driver I get this "/ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[03:11] <knix_> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install
[03:11] <knix_> "
[03:11] <retarded> same symptoms . black screen only mouse pointer.
[03:11] <vio> you can. im using it ATM
[03:11] <reep> !envy | Juancab
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <wj32> stephen: they don't support the composite extension while having 3d acceleration
[03:11] <stephen> is there any better drivers
[03:11] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: i just create a ghost image from a ubuntu running system , and burned it on a cd and i installed it on the other machine the boot hangs at grub level
[03:11] <jrib> sohum: they won't break, they'll just get uninstalled.  Install them back afterwards
[03:11] <vio> thats a personal opinion wj32
[03:11] <jin> what is the software called that makes gimp has similar interface to photoshop
[03:11] <jin> I can't recall its name :(
[03:11] <fin_> hey everyone, was just wondering if the custom dsdt patch has been applied to the feisty fawn beta kernel yet?
[03:11] <wj32> vio: no its not
[03:11] <mukaken> hoo
[03:11] <wj32> vio: its a fact.
[03:11] <nixnoob> how do i remove xdmcp?
[03:12] <compilerwriter> true ajehuk but the big press is over with.
[03:12] <vio> nope
[03:12] <gnomefreak> stephen: please see #ubuntu-effects for beryl related questions
[03:12] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: that's why i'm trying to install GRUB
[03:12] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: ok... and it's the same configuration? like first HD in both case?
[03:12] <reep> Juancab: this installs the ati-driver easily for you http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[03:12] <stephen> alrite
[03:12] <wj32> vio: ati drivers don't support composite with 3d accel. therefore composite would be extremely slow
[03:12] <ajehuk> compilerwriter - its over when I say its over damn it :)
[03:12] <Juancab> reep: I've tried envy, didn't work. But that's not my problem now
[03:12] <wj32> vio: (with aiglx)
[03:12] <MrMakeveli> MiB  ~ mb?
[03:12] <stephen> I'm a noob at IRC
[03:12] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: which configuration ?
[03:12] <vio> wj32: i'm runing compiz +aiglx and its better than with xgl..
[03:12] <stephen> how do i get to #ubuntu effects
[03:12] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: grub is not started at all? or you cannot launch ubuntu after grub appears?
[03:12] <Juancab> reep: I can't even enter ubuntu
[03:12] <wj32> vio: do you use the radeon drivers or the fglrx drivers?
[03:13] <Juancab> I get a black screen
[03:13] <gnomefreak> stephen: /j #ubuntu-effects
[03:13] <vio> what kind of question is that?
[03:13] <stephen> thanx
[03:13] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: i cannot make anything after GRUB appears
[03:13] <wj32> vio: huh?
[03:13] <compilerwriter> It won't be over for decades then.  As long as it takes the EU courts to get things done.
[03:13] <snarfer> Hello, I'm trying to install PHP5. I know it's in the apt repos, but I'd prefer to compile it myself. It requires that I have lex installed. I searched for it on the ubuntu factiods, but I only find screen. Can someone help?
[03:13] <stephen> I downloaded the radean drivers
[03:13] <vio> you can't use non-open source drivers on aiglx
[03:13] <ajehuk> vio a sensible one
[03:13] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: what do you get?
[03:13] <stephen> are you saying use mesa?
[03:13] <jrib> sohum: or you could try to just reinstall everything with "texlive" in the name
[03:13] <wj32> vio: thats what i was saying
[03:13] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: grub
[03:13] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: no entries?
[03:13] <knix_> reep, can I use envy for my ati 9250?
[03:13] <stephen> mesa will work?
[03:13] <synic> snarfer: any reason you'd rather compile it yourself?
[03:13] <sohum> jrib: the uninstall is in progress
[03:13] <thingy> jin, Gimpshop - http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[03:14] <reep> Juancab: ah, I guess you should reconfigure your xorg to use the radeon driver till you get the fglrx driver working again
[03:14] <stephen> because I have to load the xgl session in order to use beryl
[03:14] <snarfer> It's a matter of want and need
[03:14] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: nothing , even tried to type anything , nothing appears on the screen
[03:14] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: can you interract with grub? like do you have the command line working?
[03:14] <snarfer> I'd prefer not to get into those details
[03:14] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: ok
[03:14] <synic> snarfer: apt-get install build-essential
[03:14] <snarfer> Did htat
[03:14] <snarfer> that*
[03:14] <Juancab> reep: can you help me with that?
[03:14] <wj32> stephen: does 3d acceleration work with the radeon drivers?
[03:14] <snarfer> That's how I can tell you PHP5 needs lex ;)
[03:14] <mistone> how can I find where grub is installed to now?
[03:14] <vio> wj32: closed-source ATI driver together with XGL which seems to be a bit unstable.
[03:14] <pamela> hola
[03:15] <reep> knix_: if the fglrx drivers support ati9250, I don't know if it does
[03:15] <fin_> mistone - /boot/grub
[03:15] <ajehuk> vio - wj32 - very unstable - Im using a Radeon 9550
[03:15] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: ....?
[03:15] <mistone> no I mean is it installed on one of my partations or my harddrive
[03:15] <reep> Juancab: Ctrl+Alt+F1 should give you a console, log in and run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:15] <spikeb> 3d accell with the OSS drivers works with a 9250
[03:15] <knix_> reep, then how can I get this card 3d enabled?  Im so lost
[03:15] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: look for a tutorial like this one: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialRecoveryAndBootDisk.html, to make a working grub boot floppy
[03:15] <wj32> ajehuk: im using radeon 9550 as well
[03:15] <fin_> partitions are on hardrives.. and files are in partitions
[03:15] <ajehuk> wj32 - any luck with beryl / compiz?
[03:15] <wj32> ajehuk: a long time ago i had dri with the radeon drivers but i cant get it now
[03:15] <snarfer> Anyone?
[03:16] <wj32> ajehuk: i currently use fglrx with xgl
[03:16] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: the machines doesn't have a Floppy driver nor a floppy IDE
[03:16] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: ...
[03:16] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: only a cd drive?
[03:16] <ajehuk> wj32 - Im tri monitor so I dont bother anymore ( the second card is a Matrox with 4Mb videoram)
[03:16] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: yes
[03:16] <wj32> vio: you got dri working with radeon because radeon 9250 is a rv250 chipset
[03:17] <wj32> vio: radeon supports that, but the radeon 9550 is a rv300 or rv350. they dont work
[03:17] <Juancab> vio: what options should I choose?
[03:17] <wj32> ajehuk: cool
[03:17] <Juancab> vio: ATI?
[03:17] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: .............?????
[03:17] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: then go back to trying to boot a live system which has grub installed, or so you can chroot on the partition of the system you can't boot
[03:17] <vio> Juancab: can you enter login screen?
[03:17] <snarfer> I can't seem to apt-get install lex
[03:18] <snarfer> And the ubuntu wiki isn't turning anyting up
[03:18] <wj32> vio: no
[03:18] <Faugn> grub installed = has grub-install
[03:18] <wj32> snarfer: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[03:18] <vio> Juancab: then you prob don't have the right drivers installed..
[03:18] <ajehuk> wj32 - I actually though dri was possible but that you lost something else (compositing?) when it was enabled so the driver is OK but not there yet.. I may be wrong...
[03:18] <snarfer> multiverse
[03:18] <reep> knix: apparently you use the radeon driver for your card (as spikeb mentioned)
[03:18] <gnychis> Lilacor: that wireless network stuff worked, thank you!!
[03:18] <Faugn> snarfer: install flex
[03:18] <Juancab> vio: Not now. I could before I tried this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_8.28.8_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[03:18] <snarfer> !flex
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn:  i just create a ghost image from a ubuntu running system , and burned it on a cd and i installed it on the other machine the boot hangs at grub level, is it logical or undoable ?
[03:19] <vio> Juancab: that's strange though
[03:19] <wj32> ajehuk: with the radeon drivers dri with composite is possible. with fglrx its not. so, if you want composite with fglrx, its gonna be SLLLOOOWWWWW
[03:19] <pamela> visit www.kpcnet.com.ar
[03:19] <wj32> ajehuk: sadly, radeon dri doesnt work for me. it DID a long time ago.
[03:19] <ajehuk> wj32 - knew it was somethin glike that... ah well who needs 3d anyway,
[03:19] <Juancab> vio: I think that's because I've changed the xorg.conf as it says there
[03:19] <wj32> ajehuk: or maybe that was when i was using geforce4
[03:19] <fin_> hmm, whats the name of the kernel sources package in apt?
[03:19] <pamela> http://juegos.kpcnet.com.ar
[03:20] <vio> Juancab: you gotta install the "standard" ati drivers so that you can use your computer once more
[03:20] <wj32> ajehuk: ati sucks.
[03:20] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: I don't know, grub is fucked, but maybe the system is alright, maybe it's just the fact that the hd configuration is not the same...
[03:20] <thingy> snarfer, are you after a lexical analyser or the lexmark printer driver software?
[03:20] <vio> Juancab: that could also be a solution
[03:20] <wj32> Juancab: ctrl+alt+f1
[03:20] <snarfer> Former
[03:20] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: what do u mean by HD configuration
[03:20] <wj32> Juancab: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:20] <wj32> Juancab: then replace fglrx with radeon
[03:21] <wj32> snarfer: enable universe.
[03:21] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: for example, if on the installed system, the ubuntu partition is on (hd1) (from GRUB perspective) and (hd0) on the new one, grub can't load stage1/2 files to keep booting
[03:21] <snarfer> I got flex installed
[03:21] <snarfer> And PHP is fine with it
[03:22] <wj32> snarfer: ok
[03:22] <vio> Juancab: that should work
[03:22] <snarfer> Now it's complaining about libxml2
[03:22] <snarfer> !libxml
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: and reinstalling GRUB fix that ?
[03:22] <wj32> !libxml2
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxml2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <reep> fin_: you only need that package if you intend to recompile the kernel, it's called linux-source-`uname -r` though, but you probably just want linux-headers-`uname -r`
[03:23] <fin_> thanks
[03:23] <fin_> and yeah i do intend to recompile the kernel, i need to add the patch that feisty forgot to include
[03:23] <wj32> when i tried to recompile the kernel i got some stupid errors about Qt3
[03:23] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: yes, but maybe after grub is working, you'll realize that the ubuntu partition is not right... so if you have nothing to loose, maybe installing from scratch is not a bad idea
[03:24] <wj32> a bloody KERNEL cant rely on a WIDGET TOOLKIT!!!!
[03:24] <wj32> wtf
[03:24] <eck> wj32: it only depends on make and gcc
[03:24] <cafuego> wj32: Don't use `make xconfig' then
[03:24] <wj32> eck: but it said i didnt have the qt3 headers
[03:24] <Faugn> wj32: only make xconfig depends on qt
[03:24] <ajmorris_> what in linux, reads nero's .nrg image files?
[03:24] <Faugn> wj32: use make menuconfig
[03:24] <wj32> eck: which i cant install
[03:24] <Puppy_> how do I chose my default multimedia player?
[03:25] <wj32> Faugn: ok
[03:25] <cafuego> Note that for menuconfig you need libncurses5-dev
[03:25] <mystery_> has any got kxdocker to work
[03:25] <louieb> Hey I want to setup software raid in 6.10 and I cant select flags. someone recommended I make the partition and then use the flags...but it didnt work. any ideas?
[03:25] <snarfer> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/libs/libxml2
[03:25] <snarfer> Bah
[03:25] <mphill_> is there a way to get my fonts to look closer to Mac?
[03:25] <snarfer> Where is it?
[03:26] <mystery_> yeah get the mac fonts
[03:26] <Proud_Poppa> hello?
[03:26] <reep> Puppy_: right click a media file, like an .ogg file, select properties, and on the open with tab, select an application, all files of that type will be open with that application by default from then on
[03:26] <eck> mphill_: a lot of them (e.g. helvetica) require licenses
[03:26] <Puppy_> thank you reep!
[03:26] <eck> i.e. $$$
[03:27] <louieb> can anyone help me with gparted?
[03:27] <Juancab> vio: are you there? Thank you, now I can access the login screen but I have this problem: http://pastebin.ca/440092
[03:27] <Pelo> eck  I'm not totaly sure about this but I think the copy right on  Helvetica ran out quite a while ago it if had on e
[03:27] <Kamaria> Hey everyone. I'm running a dual boot of Ubuntu and Windows XP. I can access my Windows partition from Linux, but I can't boot into windows at all, it hangs at the 'Starting Up...' message.
[03:27] <wj32> im building the kernel now. yay.
[03:28] <Proud_Poppa> can anyone tell me if there is a music player that plays MP3's for Linux?
[03:28] <Faugn> Juancab: full HDL
[03:28] <Faugn> *HD?
[03:28] <Kamaria> Does anyone know what I can do to fix my problem?
[03:28] <wj32> Proud_Poppa: quodlibet, banshee, amarok, exile, listen
[03:28] <Pelo> Kamaria,  did you do anyting to your nfts partiton from linux ?
[03:28] <wj32> !mp3 | Proud_Poppa
[03:28] <ubotu> Proud_Poppa: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:29] <louieb> can someone help me access raid flags in gparted?
[03:29] <Juancab> Faugn: yes, is like this problem: http://arun-prabha.com/wdpress/?p=301
[03:29] <Kamaria> Pelo: I resized it to make room for Linux.
[03:29] <mystery_> Kamaria: I think there is a way
[03:29] <Proud_Poppa> wj32...know where I can get any of those?
[03:29] <Kamaria> My NTFS partition took up the whole disk, so I had no choice.
[03:29] <mystery_> Kamaria: Just get rid of windows
[03:30] <Pelo> Kamaria,  that might be part of the issue, have you been able to start windows since finished installing ubuntu ?
[03:30] <Kamaria> Nope.
[03:30] <wj32> Proud_Poppa: enable universe, its in add/remove programs
[03:30] <Kamaria> I haven't been able to start it at all.
[03:30] <Kamaria> But all my files are intact.
[03:30] <Faugn>  Juancab: so, you tried login from the console?
[03:30] <reep> Kamaria: Windows doesn't always like that, you basicly boot from your windows CD and do some fixboot thingy, I read it at the forums somewhere
[03:30] <Pelo> Kamaria,   do you get past the grub menu ?  I mean do you hang just after that or do you get the windows startuf screen ?
[03:30] <vio> Juancab: what graphics card do you have
[03:30] <eck> Pelo: afaik you cannot get helvetica without purchasing a license from linotype, if it was possible to get it for linux i would be very interested
[03:31] <eXcAliBuR> you can only use 1 SSL connection per ip.. so if i want to have 2 SSL connections on the same computer can i use  for example eth0:1 create a fake ip and stick SSL to it?
[03:31] <Juancab> vio: ATI, R300 or something I guess
[03:31] <wj32> eck: copy from your windows install.
[03:31] <Juancab> Faugn: how's that
[03:31] <Kamaria> I tried to boot from it, but my Windows CD hung up as well (although I can try that again.)
[03:31] <wj32> yes, thats another thing. ubuntu needs more fonts
[03:31] <Juancab> Faugn: login in terminal safe mode?, yes
[03:31] <eck> wj32: i don't have windows
[03:31] <Kamaria> Pelo; I can select Windows XP, yes. But the screen clears and goes to 'Starting up...' with a blinking cursor.
[03:31] <vio> Juancab:  type "lspci" in terminal
[03:31] <Kamaria> And never goes past that.
[03:31] <Faugn> Juancab: using Ctrl+Alt+F1, then login, and try to free some space
[03:31] <Pelo> eck,  you could be right for helvetica as a computer font , but I am pretty sure that the typeface itself it copyright free by now
[03:31] <eck> wj32: i think the font format is different anyway
[03:32] <wj32> eck: no, they're mostly ttfs
[03:32] <Pelo> Kamaria,   my guess is that your xp setup is borked and you will need to reinstall,  luckly you have access to your ntfs partition from ubuntu so you'll be able to backup your data
[03:32] <wj32> why does the linux kernel have like 100 copies of B+ tree code
[03:32] <wj32> stupid monolithic
[03:33] <wj32> e.g. in the filesystems
[03:33] <louieb> can someone help me with gparted?
[03:33] <wj32> befs, dlm, efs, xfs, jfs, so on...
[03:33] <Kamaria> Pelo: Would it be a good idea to use the recovery partition on my hard drive? (My PC came with it.)
[03:33] <Kamaria> I don't want to mess up Linux by using it though.
[03:33] <vio> Juancab: this guide should be perfect http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon (graphical guide)
[03:33] <Pelo> Kamaria,  I have never had to use one so I can'T say
[03:33] <wj32> Kamaria: whats wrong?
[03:33] <Juancab> Faugn: if you're going to recommend clean apt-get or something I've gone through that. I have a couple of really big folders in the botting partition that I don't want to errase, and i don't know what to errase
[03:33] <wj32> !ask | louieb
[03:33] <ubotu> louieb: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:34] <Faugn> Juancab: well, you need to make some space!
[03:34] <Pelo> wj32,   kamarina resize the nfts partiton to make room for ubuntu and can'T boot windows anymore ,  hangs right after the grub menu
[03:34] <louieb> ah my apologies. I partitioned my drive with gparted but the flag option is greyed out. I cant select Raid
[03:34] <Juancab> vio: Ok, I did, I get a list, what do you need to know
[03:35] <blues451> Kamaria, the recovery partition begins by completely wiping the drive
[03:35] <wj32> Kamaria: can you still access your files?
[03:35] <Pelo> louieb,   your best bet is to check inthe forum for the info you need, sorry that is the best we seem to be able to provide you with
[03:35] <Kamaria> Yes I can.
[03:35] <vio> Juancab: what graphics card do you have R300?
[03:35] <blues451> try a Windows repair installation first
[03:35] <Faugn> Juancab: maybe remove old kernel images, use apt-get autoremove, remove uneeded packages, make backup and erase some other data...
[03:35] <Kamaria> I don't have a really effective way of backing up...XD.
[03:36] <Juancab> vio: RV370? Radeon X300SE?
[03:36] <louieb> Pelo: yea thanks. I have been looking at forums - in fact I did before I joined here. I am on a system designed to me a server - wonder if there are true raid drivers..
[03:36] <Pelo> Kamaria,  you can copy your data to you /home folder in ubuntu , that should do if you donT' intend to wipe your hdd
[03:36] <vio> Juancab: ok, just follow that step by step guide, and it will be ok (don't miss any steps) http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu.html
[03:36] <Juancab> Faugn: can I backup to the other partition, the one for /home?
[03:37] <vio> Juancab:  wrong link..
[03:37] <Juancab> vio: yes, i don't have feisty faun
[03:37] <vio> Juancab: http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html (this1)
[03:37] <Faugn> Juancab: yes, you can move data to another partition, just make sure not to move anything needed by the ubuntu system
[03:37] <reep> Kamaria: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405715&highlight=fix+windows+boot according to the last post there, supergrub might be the thing for you
[03:37] <vio> Juancab:  you do have enough free space right?
[03:38] <Juancab> Faugn: How do I know, that's why I didn't before
[03:38] <Juancab> The heaviest folders are inside /var and /usr
[03:38] <Faugn> your home is on another partition?
[03:38] <user01> grub question . ..  do i just delete quiet and splash to have a verbose non splash boot up?
[03:38] <eXcAliBuR> you can only use 1 SSL connection per ip.. so if i want to have 2 SSL connections on the same computer can i use  for example eth0:1 create a fake ip and stick SSL to it?
[03:38] <Juancab> vio: not in the partition that it says is full
[03:39] <eck> user01: delete teh quiet and splash options in your menu.lst
[03:39] <Juancab> vio: but I have plenty of space in the /home partition
[03:39] <Kamaria> Pelo: Okay, I'll consider doing that...
[03:39] <Proud_Poppa> wj32.....don't see "Universe" in add/remove programs....
[03:39] <Juancab> vio: I think is a problem with some Backup program
[03:39] <eck> eXcAliBuR: what makes you think you can only have one ssl connection per ip?
[03:39] <Juancab> Faugn: yes, my /home is in another partition
[03:40] <blues451> Kamaria, a Windows repair installation should allow you to boot to XP while preserving your data. Boot from the CD and start the install then choose the "repair an existing installation" option. You may have to repair GRUB when you're done though...
[03:40] <Juancab> Faugn: But I'm worried about some very important files I need to recover from a virtual machine
[03:40] <Proud_Poppa> I have "Music Player", "Totem Movie Player", and "XMMS"
[03:40] <user01> eck: then sudo update-grub ?
[03:40] <eck> user01: no, then you are done :-)
[03:40] <DigitalDeviant> anyone know how to automatically take a screenshot with mplayer? all i could find is the manual way
[03:40] <eXcAliBuR> eck: because i read that somewhere
[03:40] <Faugn> Juancab: what does df -h gives you?
[03:40] <user01> eck: ok then ill test . .. thanks
[03:41] <Kamaria> blues451: How do I repair GRUB?
[03:41] <eck> eXcAliBuR: i'm not sure where you read that, but it is obviously wrong. for example, you can browse to two https sites at once
[03:41] <stephen> where do I go for azureus or java support?
[03:41] <stephen> where do I go for azureus or java support?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!!?
[03:41] <eck> eXcAliBuR: and a web server serves all of its https connections from a single port even
[03:41] <Juancab> vio: I've followed that guide (along a lot more), but it didn't work, and my problem now is that i can't even start ubuntu
[03:42] <eXcAliBuR> eck: maybe u misunderstood the question from a hosting point I want to have for example two website each with it's own ssl cert
[03:42] <blues451> Kamaria, this I'm not sure of but I have seen the process somewhere in the forums. Try to Google the answer
[03:42] <vio> Juancab: 2 sec.. just gonna check 1 thing out
[03:42] <Juancab> Faugn: It gives me that I have the / partition full
[03:42] <Juancab> vio: ok
[03:42] <eck> eXcAliBuR: i think it is fine if you are using virtual hosts and one ip
[03:42] <gnomefreak> stephen: try #azureus or #java?
[03:42] <Faugn> Juancab: can't you apt-get remove some things?
[03:42] <reep> Proud_Poppa: if you have edgy, there's a dropdown box in the topright of add/remove, there you can choose "all available applications" to be able to install from universe and multiverse as well
[03:43] <gnomefreak> stephen: if noone here knows the answer
[03:43] <vio> Faugn: not the right time to do that..
[03:43] <vio> Juancab:  you can try the "open-source" drivers..
[03:43] <Juancab> Faugn: I've tried with open office, without luck, any other suggestion? another software to remove with apt-get?
[03:43] <Pelo> stephen,   #azureus-support
[03:43] <eck> eXcAliBuR: obviously you would need to configure the web server to hand out the right certificate
[03:43] <Faugn> Juancab: anyway, there is no magick solution, delete/move some things, use comon sense.... got to go
[03:43] <juancgt> how can i install the kernel source using apt-get ?
[03:44] <Faugn> Juancab: older kernel images and modules
[03:44] <vio> Juancab: you gotta fix the free space..
[03:44] <eck> juancgt: sudo apt-get source linux-image-generic
[03:44] <Juancab> vio: I don't think is a drivers problem anymore. Can you please see this error: http://pastebin.ca/440092
[03:44] <Mr_Giraffe> !firefox
[03:44] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:44] <Faugn> Juancab: only keep the one your runninc
[03:44] <Faugn> *runnir
[03:44] <Mr_Giraffe> agh, that doesn't help.
[03:44] <shooters_> Hi, I have some problems connecting to the freenode IRC networks... it cycles like one billion times and always disconnect with "Connection reset by peer".  I can't even talk with Nickserv... any idea why this is happening?
[03:44] <Faugn> **running
[03:44] <Faugn> :P
[03:44] <Faugn> Juancab: good luck!
[03:44] <Pelo> juancgt, I donT mean to be trite but if you donT' know how you shouldn'T really mess with the kernel
[03:44] <Juancab> Faugn: thanks
[03:45] <asheikh> Hi folks.. How does one go about changing the default applications in gnome -- for example, I wanted to make acroread the default pdf reader -- but I cannot figure out where to set this up
[03:45] <juancgt> Pelo: don't judge. I just don't know how to do it with apt-get and for some reason d/l the bzip didn't seem ubuntu-like
[03:45] <Pelo> asheikh, find a pdf file, right click , properties,  open with ,  select the application
[03:46] <stone-unix> hi, is Feisty RC out??
[03:46] <asheikh> Pelo: I wanted to change the default double-click action
[03:46] <asheikh> There is a pdf I have that I have to use for reference a lot that only works with acroread
[03:46] <Pelo> asheikh,  that will do it
[03:46] <Mr_Giraffe> is there any way to have fonts not anti-aliased and look good?  because turning anti-aliasing off in windows looks good, but it doesn't in ubuntu...
[03:46] <eck> asheikh: you have to change the acroread .desktop file or something like that
[03:47] <Pelo> juancgt,  I am not judging I am advising,
[03:47] <juancgt> Pelo: thanks
[03:47] <NorthWood> Hi all
[03:48] <NorthWood> What about SIMPLE mail 4Ubuntu?
[03:48] <NBrepresen1> hi, which program do i need to open a rar file?
[03:48] <Shaba1> ok folkes how dow I change the screesaver from the command line
[03:48] <asheikh> Pelo: I just tried that -- the first time it works -- but the next time when you double click, it again ends up using evince
[03:48] <eck> Mr_Giraffe: the simple answer is no, see http://www.freetype.org/patents.html
[03:48] <Pelo> NorthWood,  twaht 6
[03:48] <NBrepresen1> file-roller doesn't do it, i guess
[03:48] <dreamcastjack> hey guys
[03:48] <Pelo> NorthWood,  what ?
[03:48] <eck> Mr_Giraffe: the technologies for rendering ttf files properly are patented
[03:48] <Shaba1> the standard xubuntu bricks were fine
[03:48] <NorthWood> Pelo
[03:48] <reep> NBrepresen1: install the unrar package, then you can double click rar files and unpack them
[03:48] <Pelo> asheikh,  try the other advice you ware given ?
[03:48] <nicholim> NBrepresen1: sudo apt-get install unrar
[03:49] <Shaba1> but this bug thing that I was previewing locks the computer up
[03:49] <Pelo> NorthWood, what do you mean by what a bout a simple mail for ubuntu ?
[03:49] <NorthWood> mail without personal information system
[03:49] <NBrepresen1> reep: nicholim, thanks!
[03:49] <Pelo> NorthWood,  you donT' have to put that in
[03:49] <dreamcastjack> here is a possible dumb question.  when I upgrade to 7.04 will It delete my music/Video/Codecs and everything?
[03:49] <asheikh> Pelo: Okay -- looking for a pdf .desktop file.
[03:50] <Pelo> NorthWood,  I just got your meaning,    open up synaptic and search for  mail and see what turns up , one of them might be to your liking
[03:50] <Pathogen246> Anyone know how I can update my video drivers to run WINE and Counterstrike source?
[03:50] <Madpilot> dreamcastjack, not if you upgrade an existing 6.10 install
[03:50] <dreamcastjack> sweet
[03:50] <Madpilot> dreamcastjack, you will probably have to re-enable 3d accel on your vidcard, tho
[03:50] <NorthWood> Pelo thanks
[03:50] <dreamcastjack> will I need to install my Nvidia Driver again?
[03:50] <dreamcastjack> sweet thanks man
[03:50] <cyris> anyone get aoe3 running under wine? im running edgy and the install crashes and it tosses me an exception :S
[03:50] <dreamcastjack> I was worried about it
[03:50] <stephen> Pathogen246: wine doesn't run windows video games or direct3d
[03:51] <stephen> Pathogen246: use vmware with a windows installation
[03:51] <reep> NorthWood: mutt is nice.. has a nice slogan too: "All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less."
[03:51] <joel> is there a bog that will copy off a dvd /cd/HDD etc and will auto skip over bad sectors?
[03:51] <Madpilot> stephen, lots of Win games run under Wine...
[03:51] <Pathogen246> stephen: I've seen loads of things using wine to istall css
[03:51] <joel> prog*
[03:51] <NorthWood> reep
[03:51] <NorthWood> :)
[03:51] <eck> reep: maybe a long time ago... mutt can't even properly handle nested mail folders though...
[03:52] <eck> reep: or imap mail folders
[03:52] <NorthWood> thunderbird!!!
[03:52] <asheikh> eck: do you which file I have to modify to change the default pdf viewer -- you mentioned a desktop file -- can't find which one
[03:52] <reep> eck: yea I know, but I just enter them manually
[03:52] <NorthWood> it's great :)] 
[03:53] <michup> hi, how to setup default mplayer in ff?
[03:53] <Pathogen246> anyone else know what I can do to get CS running in Wine? I have it installed, it just goes black when the menus load up
[03:53] <NorthWood> I use it with windows but don't know that is works with linux too :)
[03:53] <dreamcastjack> alrigth one more question. my system tray has dissapeared..what should I do to get it back?
[03:53] <dreamcastjack> alright^
[03:53] <Shaba1> ok folkes how dow I change the screesaver from the command line
[03:54] <Madpilot> asheikh, just right-click on a PDF, select Open With
[03:54] <reep> Pathogen246: I think #winehq is the place to get help for that
[03:54] <asheikh> Madpilot: I want to permanently set the default pdf viewer
[03:54] <Pathogen246> ok thanks
[03:54] <michup> ive installed mplayer packages but dont know how to setup it to default in ff, when it start loading video its opening via totem
[03:54] <Madpilot> asheikh, same place
[03:55] <asheikh> Madpilot: tried it -- it uses that preference once -- but the next time the default double click action uses evince rather than acroread
[03:55] <RenatoSilva> hi
[03:55] <RenatoSilva> well
[03:55] <reep> dreamcastjack: rightclick an empty spot on the panel and select add to panel
[03:55] <Madpilot> dreamcastjack, right-click on the top bar, select Add To Panel - you probably mean the Notification Area?
[03:55] <RenatoSilva> what about my w300i and ubuntu?????????????????
[03:55] <RenatoSilva> i've connected it to the usb, and my PC does nothing
[03:56] <RenatoSilva> but in Windows it would automatically recognize an USB device
[03:56] <RenatoSilva> what am I supposed to do??
[03:56] <RenatoSilva> help me!
[03:56] <dreamcastjack> yes, like if I close gaim, its usually at the top by the time and it doesnt do taht anymore
[03:56] <NorthWood> what is w300i?
[03:56] <Madpilot> asheikh, right-click on the PDF, go Properties, then Open With - I forgot that to reset the default is in a different place
[03:56] <fiveFS> RenatoSilva: whats a w300i?
[03:56] <NorthWood> sony - ericcson?
[03:56] <RenatoSilva> fiveFS: it's a Sony Ericsson cellphone
[03:57] <asheikh> Madpilot: I have tried that too.
[03:57] <RenatoSilva> NorthWood: yes
[03:57] <fiveFS> did you look at dmesg?
[03:57] <fiveFS> or "tail /var/log/messages"
[03:57] <dreamcastjack> ah okay thanks guys
[03:57] <dreamcastjack> you guys riock
[03:57] <dreamcastjack> rock
[03:57] <asheikh> Madpilot: open with -> other application -> type /usr/bin/acroread.  It uses acroread the first time.  Next time you double click it again uses evince
[03:57] <dreamcastjack> cantw ait til I get in the groove and be able to help people
[03:57] <michup> Totem could not play 'fd://0'.
[03:57] <michup> Video codec 'WVC1' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[03:57] <RenatoSilva> fiveFS: remember me what does this command do?
[03:58] <michup> how to handle this?
[03:58] <kid6> * "tail -f /var/log/messages"
[03:58] <wasyl> what is the command instead of list (like squery alis)?
[03:58] <reep> dreamcastjack: you need to enable a plugin in gaim
[03:58] <fiveFS> RenatoSilva: it will show you the latest system messages, such as where it has detected your usb device at
[03:58] <snarfer> !mysql-dev
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mysql-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <reep> dreamcastjack: for it to show in the system tray
[03:59] <Madpilot> asheikh, works here - not sure what you're doing - sorry...
[03:59] <RenatoSilva> fiveFS: so i grep for usb?
[03:59] <lnx> hi, i have a hp dv8235nr.  I need to find a driver from my nvidia 7400 go gfx card
[03:59] <lnx> can somebody help me out?
[03:59] <dreamcastjack> its cool reep its working now. I must have accidently deleted it from the panel somehow (notificatin)
[03:59] <fiveFS> RenatoSilva: no... just plug in your cell phone and type "tail /var/log/messages"   or even better, type "tail -f /var/log/messages" and then plug in your cell phone
[03:59] <asheikh> Madpilot: The only way I can make it work is if remove evince.  But I don't like that option since it disables pdf previews in nautilus.
[04:00] <wasyl> anyone can help me? just need to find a channel with help or sth, but don't want to use list
[04:00] <dreamcastjack> Thanks alot man
[04:00] <michup> Video codec 'WVC1' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[04:00] <michup> how can i handle this?
[04:00] <asheikh> Madpilot: is there file/directory which maps mimetypes to applications
[04:00] <Madpilot> asheikh, you're right-clicking on a PDF, Properties->Open With->click on Acroread? That works here... I just tested it.
[04:00] <dreamcastjack> i'm enjoying this Amarok Music player. was using XMMS but I dig this much more.
[04:00] <Chadarius> michup: You can try a different video player. I use VLC
[04:00] <NorthWood> wasyl it's help channel i think :)
[04:01] <rancor> amarok is pretty nice
[04:01] <rancor> i like the gui
[04:01] <michup> its actually the film via firefox
[04:01] <Chadarius> yeah amarok is great I use it too
[04:01] <snarfer> I'm trying to install mysql-dev
[04:01] <snarfer> Is there a package?
[04:01] <snarfer> PHP5 has a dependency for it
[04:01] <michup> so i tried to install mplayer mozilla plugin
[04:01] <Chadarius> michup: Install vlc and the vlc plugin
[04:01] <dreamcastjack> i like the notification of what song is coming on.
[04:01] <rancor> have you tried apt-cache search mysql-dev?
[04:01] <michup> vlc plugin for ff?
[04:02] <wasyl> rotfl thx a bit late :P
[04:02] <asheikh> Madpilot: Right click on PDF -> Open with -> "Adobe Reader" .. opens with adobe acrobat reader.  Close, double click on the same pdf, opens with evince.
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> fiveFS: here's the changes
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> fiveFS: Apr 14 23:00:49 renato-desktop kernel: [17210022.716000]  usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[04:02] <Pelo> michup,  you need to remove the totem-mozilla pluggin if hyou want the mplayer one to work
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:00:49 renato-desktop kernel: [17210022.724000]  cdc_acm 2-1:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:00:49 renato-desktop kernel: [17210022.732000]  cdc_acm 2-1:1.3: ttyACM1: USB ACM device
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:00:57 renato-desktop kernel: [17210031.116000]  usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 4
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:01:17 renato-desktop kernel: [17210050.760000]  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:01:17 renato-desktop kernel: [17210050.940000]  usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:01:17 renato-desktop kernel: [17210050.948000]  cdc_acm 2-1:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:01:17 renato-desktop kernel: [17210050.952000]  cdc_acm 2-1:1.3: ttyACM1: USB ACM device
[04:02] <eck> asheikh: http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/mimetypes-registering.html
[04:02] <zcat[1] > !pastebin > RenatoSilva
[04:02] <asheikh> eck: thanks for the link - i'll check it out
[04:02] <Madpilot> asheikh, no. Go right-click->PROPERTIES
[04:02] <eck> asheikh: i guess you need to create a ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list file
[04:03] <michup> if i try to remove it there are dependencies it will remove ubuntu-desktop
[04:03] <Madpilot> asheikh, then the Open With tab in the Properties window (I'm assuming you're in Gnome, btw)
[04:03] <hackle577> quick question: if i am getting the error "Text file busy" is console, how can I end that process?
[04:03] <michup> im not sure what this package contains
[04:03] <hackle577> *in console
[04:03] <zcat[1] > hackle577, fuser -k filename
[04:03] <michup> and how import it is
[04:04] <Ademan> has anyone used mingw to compile for windows? (from ubuntu)
[04:04] <Madpilot> michup, you can remove ubuntu-desktop - just be sure to reinstall it before you try to upgrade to the next release of Ubuntu.
[04:04] <asheikh> Madpilot: yes, i'm in gnome, right clicking on pdf icon on my desktop
[04:04] <hackle577> zcat[1] : thanks!
[04:05] <Madpilot> asheikh, click Properties, right at the bottom of the right-click menu. use the Open With tab in properties to permanently change what it opens w/
[04:05] <asheikh> eck: thanks for the tip - I think this is what I was looking for
[04:05] <RenatoSilva> hi
[04:05] <RenatoSilva> sorry
[04:05] <hosk> hey
[04:05] <Madpilot> RenatoSilva, next time, use a pastebin.
[04:05] <RenatoSilva> how do i use paste bin???
[04:05] <michup> am i able to remove only totem-mozilla package without removing ubuntu-desktop package
[04:06] <RenatoSilva> Madpilot: bot?
[04:06] <michup> or removing and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop is a properly way
[04:06] <michup> ?
[04:06] <zcat[1] > !pastebin > RenatoSilva
[04:06] <RenatoSilva> Madpilot: are u a bot?
[04:06] <Ax4> anyone know how messages are sent in the terminal?
[04:06] <Madpilot> RenatoSilva, me? No, I'm not.
[04:06] <asheikh> Madpilot: Okay, that was a good tip - that actually worked.
[04:06] <rancor> lol
[04:06] <tbuss> ajehuk: the purge did not seem to work. I still have a lingering .php files in my var/www when I try to test if php4 is installed correctly, the config is is already filled out
[04:06] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : i don't understand
[04:06] <hosk> does ubuntu fiesty 7.04 beta come with Qtparted, by any chance? I can't get knoppix to boot
[04:06] <Ax4> would like to begin scripting some ideas, but need a push in the right direction as far as how messages are generated and delivered via BASH
[04:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, pastebin | RenatoSilva
[04:06] <ubotu> RenatoSilva: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:06] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : what does it does?
[04:07] <Madpilot> hosk, gparted
[04:07] <asheikh> Madpilot: I just checked -- going to properties and selecting acroread there does work
[04:07] <RenatoSilva> people
[04:07] <RenatoSilva> all people
[04:07] <hosk> er, that's what i meant, 7.04 live comes with that?
[04:07] <RenatoSilva> i jknow what's it
[04:07] <Madpilot> asheikh, yeah, the Open With thing only works for one-offs
[04:07] <zcat[1] > RenatoSilva, click the pastebin link ubotu gave you, and you get a page you can paste stuff into. That page gives you a link to the stuff you pasted, which you can put in here for people to look at.
[04:07] <apolo> hi, anybody knows anything about mysql sever, i got a serious problem
[04:07] <Buckminster> can i do a distro upgrade straight from dapper to feisty?
[04:07] <RenatoSilva> i just want to know how do i do a ctrl + v in that site, get the url and give it back to you
[04:07] <asheikh> Madpilot: thanks, this saves me 100 clicks each day
[04:08] <zcat[1] > .. I didn't explain that too well :)
[04:08] <Madpilot> Buckminster, no. Dapper->Edgy->Feisty
[04:08] <michup> or removing and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop is a properly way
[04:08] <apolo> i have changed my root password in tabale user in mysql database, but i can not connect to mysql by new password
[04:08] <Madpilot> need food. back later.
[04:08] <zcat[1] > so when's 7.04 coming out now? 05?
[04:08] <stephen> Buckminister: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu.html
[04:08] <Buddha|> How do I find out if Ubuntu has support for a particular printer?
[04:08] <stephen> Buckminister: best bet is a clean install... there is less issues
[04:08] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : a moment
[04:08] <apolo> if i reinstall the mysql is that work?
[04:08] <Juancab> Please, I have this problem: http://arun-prabha.com/wdpress/?p=301  anybody can help me?
[04:09] <stephen> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20070414/
[04:09] <hendrixski> Buddha|, it probably does.  Just try it first if you can... some don't work too well :-(
[04:09] <nraic> I am getting a Permission denied when try to output terminal commands to files, why is this?
[04:09] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : nice!!!!
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : i'll del.icio.us it!!!
[04:10] <apolo> MySQL ? anybody ?
[04:10] <hendrixski> Buddha|, if you tool around localhost:631 it'll give you an easy install... and somewhere in there is a list of every printer driver known to man
[04:10] <apolo> #mysql
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15725/
[04:10] <zcat[1] > Buddha|, I just go through the add-printer thing and see if the printer's in there. If it's not, I try a similar model and that often works.
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : the pastes stay there forever??
[04:10] <Buddha|> zcat[1]  - add-printer thing?
[04:10] <Tortel> anyone know what program this is? I had it once but I dont remeber anymore... http://69.250.79.13/pics/linux2.png
[04:10] <zcat[1] > RenatoSilva, they get recycled after a few days I think
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> so people
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> look at that
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15725/
[04:10] <zcat[1] > Buddha|, somewhere in admin, I dunno...
[04:11] <Juancab> I have this problem: http://pastebin.ca/440092, anyone can help?
[04:11] <nraic> ls > new is getting permission denied, why?
[04:11] <theTrav> does acidrip do data cd's as well?
[04:11] <dreamcastjack> i have a quick question
[04:11] <zcat[1] > system > admin > printing > add
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> that's what happened when I've connected my w300i
[04:11] <_bernie> Juancab: you're in a dir where you're not the owner.
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> what does it mean?
[04:11] <hosk> 7.04 uses its own partitioner? does it work as well as Gparted or Qtparted? i need to move some partitions around to get grub in front of windows
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> what should i do?
[04:11] <vio> Tortel: gDesklet?
[04:11] <eck> Juancab: were you able to move /var or /usr?
[04:11] <Juancab> _bernie: How's that?
[04:11] <dreamcastjack> if i switch out a hd for another.. but duel booting w/ both hdds will it mess up my ubuntu partition?
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> hosk: own partitioner?
[04:11] <_bernie> hosk: it's gparted actually
[04:12] <hosk> oh okay
[04:12] <_bernie> Juancab: see: ls -d .
[04:12] <Juancab> eck: no, I didn't try, can you give me a hand now?
[04:12] <RenatoSilva> hosk: where did you listen that?
[04:12] <nraic> _bernie, I doing it with sudo
[04:12] <hosk> i just read an article that said it was like, their own
[04:12] <eck> Juancab: sure
[04:12] <theTrav> arg.  I have a data cd that I want to make an image of (bin), what software package do I need to use?
[04:12] <eck> Juancab: did you create another partition?
[04:12] <RenatoSilva> help me
[04:12] <RenatoSilva> please
[04:12] <RenatoSilva> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15725/
[04:12] <_bernie> Juancab: the redirection happens *before* you become root
[04:13] <hosk> can gparted move partitions?
[04:13] <Tortel> vio: yeah, it is, thanks!
[04:13] <_bernie> hosk: yes... depends on the fs I think
[04:13] <wj32> how long does compiling the kernel usually take?
[04:13] <Chadarius> theTrav: a bin or an ISO?
[04:13] <theTrav> Chadarius, yes
[04:13] <theTrav> I want to create images of my cd's so I don't have to carry a case of external media around with me
[04:13] <hosk> i want to move my ntfs partition unless i had awesome forethought and left like... how much is it for grub? a meg or two?
[04:13] <_bernie> are there any chan ops?
[04:13] <RenatoSilva> _bernie: fs? i don't think so
[04:14] <Juancab> eck: not yet, but are you sure the vmware will not be damaged?
[04:14] <arrenlex> hosk: Your kernels live in /boot so best to leave at least 100MB for it.
[04:14] <Juancab> _bernie: What does "becaming root" means?
[04:14] <arrenlex> !root
[04:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:14] <RenatoSilva> _bernie: the filesystem resides into a partition and have nothing about what happen outside
[04:14] <Bales> anyone know if there's a linux gaming channel?
[04:14] <reep> theTrav: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=thecd.iso
[04:14] <_bernie> Juancab: you were using sudo and redirection, yes?
[04:14] <eck> Juancab: ifyou have enough space in /home you can copy it there just to be safe
[04:14] <theTrav> reep, what's dd?
[04:15] <Shaba1> hello
[04:15] <hosk> arrenlex: for dual boots? i thought your HDD went like, grub, then OS1, then OS2, all in their own little partitions
[04:15] <_bernie> Juancab: sudo allows you to execute a command as the superuser (root in unix-ish slang)
[04:15] <Shaba1> can anyone tell me how to change the ubuntu screen saver from the command line
[04:15] <theTrav> ok, man says convert and copy
[04:15] <Bales> anyone know if there's a linux gaming channel?
[04:15] <Shaba1> I have one now that lockes up my laptop
[04:15] <Juancab> _bernie: yes but sudo with what?
[04:15] <Shaba1> every time I even go to the screesaver app
[04:15] <_bernie> RenatoSilva: I thought some filesystems used absolute block numbers internally (absolute = from the start of the disk)
[04:15] <theTrav> so once I've done that I can mount it as a cd with a different command?
[04:15] <reep> theTrav: yes, in this case it will copy the cd to an image
[04:15] <vox754> !repeat > Bales
[04:16] <theTrav> or burn it to another cd?
[04:16] <arrenlex> hosk: The grub configuration lives on /boot, which is usually part of the Linux partition.
[04:16] <RenatoSilva> does anyone know how to JUST connect my cellphone to my PC without having to write a kernel module or something like? kkkk
[04:16] <eck> _bernie: that was a different user, nraic
[04:16] <Bales> sorry about that, my comp locked up and didnt show I had sent the message
[04:16] <_bernie> Juancab: if you do: sudo echo foo > bar, you actually write to foo as yourself, not root.
[04:16] <RenatoSilva> _bernie: underground filesystems? :D
[04:16] <reep> theTrav: to burn, use that dd command, then right click the resulting .iso-file, and select burn to disk
[04:16] <_bernie> eck: oops, sorry
[04:16] <RenatoSilva> _bernie: it's not reiser, ext, fat, ntfs, right? rsss
[04:17] <zcat[1] > theTrav, to mount it locally; mount -o loop thecdimage.iso /media/cdrom
[04:17] <_bernie> eck, Juancab: I closed the channel and opened it back... got the wrong user
[04:17] <RenatoSilva> w300i
[04:17] <RenatoSilva> someone?
[04:17] <RenatoSilva> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15725/
[04:17] <theTrav> ok sweet, thanks reep and zcat
[04:17] <_bernie> RenatoSilva: I think there was a grid somewhere with parted capabilities for each fs. try googling for it
[04:17] <tbuss> reep: tried to purge apache2/php4/libapache2  after the purge I try to install php4 and it tells me the newest version is already installed
[04:17] <_bernie> eck: who was the other guy?
[04:18] <vox754> !repeat > RenatoSilva
[04:18] <vox754> !enter > RenatoSilva
[04:18] <gnufied>  extended attributes are enabled on stock ubuntu dapper kernels?
[04:18] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: Hey is this a problem you are having when you are using bluetooth dialup?
[04:18] <etzerd> Hello all
[04:18] <eck> _bernie: the nick was nraic, i guess they left
[04:18] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: I think I'm having the same issue in Feisty Beta
[04:18] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: no, think simpler
[04:18] <etzerd> can anyone tell me whe the new version 7.04 will be release?
[04:18] <anandanbu> does anyone know about Scribes and how to install it in Ubuntu
[04:18] <_bernie> eck: oh, mean...
[04:19] <reep> tbuss: yet php4 isn't installed?
[04:19] <eck> etzerd: it should be april 19
[04:19] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: it's just that i want to plug my cellphone on PC and transfer files, like the CD software for windows!
[04:19] <etzerd> Thanks eck
[04:19] <_bernie> Anybody from boston here?
[04:19] <Juancab> eck: It's funny this time (with the CD) It seems to recognize my video card, I have a better resolution now
[04:19] <zcat[1] > eck, I read the RC was held back a few days and the final probably will be too....
[04:19] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: OK and....?
[04:20] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: and?
[04:20] <hosk> i think if i'm going to dual boot my computer, i'm going to need another beer.
[04:20] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: and it doesn't work!!
[04:20] <Juancab> eck: that's something I didn't achive with lots of Howtos
[04:20] <tbuss> reep: I purged php4 and I saw a long list of files....
[04:20] <theTrav> hmm, now that's weird
[04:20] <theTrav> my drive wouldn't mount the cd to start with
[04:20] <Juancab> eck: Ironic
[04:20] <etzerd> eck: do you tried the beta version: If you do how safe it is so I can install it instead of the 6.10
[04:20] <tbuss> reep: php4*
[04:20] <theTrav> something about the cd being read only
[04:20] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: what software are you using to try doing it?
[04:20] <reep> tbuss: hm... could you paste: "aptitude search apache2 php" ?
[04:21] <tbuss> reep: sure
[04:21] <zcat[1] > theTrav, usually it mounts it fine, it just -warns- that it will be read-only...
[04:21] <stapolo> oin #hardware
[04:21] <denys> hey, is there some special way to connect to wireless networks that are not broadcasting? (assuming i have the ESSID and the password) Because I just can't seem to connect to my school network if i just put the ESSID and password in the network settings. Yet i can connect easily if i boot from my windows partition.
[04:21] <theTrav> yeah, well I'll come back to that one
[04:21] <theTrav> I moved on to a cd that will be recognised
[04:22] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: I plug my cellphone on USB and the distro aka such a "pitch" (it receivers well almost every such a thing having an USB tail kkkkk) doesn't liked this device this time
[04:22] <eck> etzerd: i have been using feisty for a couple of months without any problems, but as usual ymmv
[04:22] <theTrav> and when I run dd if=/media/cdrom0 of=test.iso I get nothing read
[04:22] <void60606> hello alll
[04:22] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: operating system auto-detection for USB!
[04:22] <tbuss> reep: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15726/
[04:22] <reep> theTrav: you should unmount the cd, then run dd if=/dev/cdrom of=test.iso
[04:22] <|Jason8|> Hello everyone, I just installed a .deb package, how can I uninstall it?
[04:22] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: what phone are you using?
[04:23] <theTrav> oh
[04:23] <theTrav> unmount it first
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: like Windows does!
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: w300i
[04:23] <zcat[1] > eck, I'm using feisty now... there's a borken-network icon in the system tray though, and obviously my network is working. any ideas?
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: sony ericsson
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> does anyone have tested the Feisty's support for soft modems?
[04:23] <etzerd> eck: sorry I'm new to linux, can you tell me which desktop you rather use  Gnome or KDE and Y
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> specifically, Agere modems?
[04:24] <theTrav> unmount is dragging to the trash right?
[04:24] <RenatoSilva> i'm sad
[04:24] <reep> tbuss: the lines starting with c are packages that are uninstalled, but not purged ( c for configfiles)
[04:24] <eck> zcat[1] : there's always somethign wrong with network manager, i wish i could help you
[04:24] <reep> tbuss: the php5 packages are not purged, I would try purging them
[04:24] <RenatoSilva> i love my phone, and my Ubuntu, but they doesn't do each another!! rsss
[04:25] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: So does Windows mount a drive or something when you plug the phone in? If not then you will need some kind of special software to transfer files. Like moto4lin has for the Motorola Razor
[04:25] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: like this http://veinhammer.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/motorola-razr-ubuntu-linux/
[04:25] <eck> zcat[1] : it is working for me right now, but the network manager vpn stuff is broken
[04:25] <zcat[1] > eck, just occured to me. I should just switch off network manager from loading in my session. problem solved :)
[04:25] <RenatoSilva> i guess Windows and w300i would love themselves ! but I don't want give up with "Urubu"
[04:25] <theTrav> hmm, how do I unmount?
[04:25] <tbuss> reep: just to make sure, sudo apt-get --purge remove php5
[04:25] <eck> zcat[1] : are you using a wired connection?
[04:25] <zcat[1] > yeah. NM is for wifi?
[04:26] <reep> tbuss: yes, or sudo aptitude purge php5
[04:26] <eck> zcat[1] : i think i might have turned off my interfaces from doing dhcp so nm could start them up
[04:26] <zcat[1] > anyhow.. gotta go. back some other day
[04:26] <eck> zcat[1] : it works with both, but if you don't need wireless it's sort of pointless
[04:26] <theTrav> ahh it's umount
[04:26] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: actually i don't know if Windows recognizes, at least a manufacture's CD with Windows soft i have
[04:26] <theTrav> I assumed it'd be unmount
[04:26] <theTrav> crazy abbreviations
[04:26] <eck> theTrav: welcome to unix :-)
[04:26] <tbuss> reep: purged says I need to apt-get autoremove some files
[04:27] <eck> theTrav: see also resolv.conf
[04:27] <hosk> oh, i have another question: what are the odds of my 7.04b disc working almost flawlessly if it gets 1 checksum fail after i boot to it and test it
[04:27] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: i've seen some bug related at launchpad, but it's not clear
[04:27] <reep> tbuss: try with aptitude
[04:27] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: he says will add a patch to something and all that technical words
[04:27] <RenatoSilva> w300i please! :D
[04:28] <RenatoSilva> what are your cellphones??? better than mine?  :D
[04:28] <eck> the worst one is creat instead of create
[04:28] <tbuss> reep: used php5 but it looks like mostly php4 files were removed
[04:29] <RenatoSilva> some Brazillian here?
[04:29] <RenatoSilva> we are having the fisl8.0, did you noticed?
[04:29] <reep> tbuss: make sure you get all php5 packages: aptitude search php5 | grep ^c
[04:29] <nayif> !info sa
[04:29] <ubotu> Package sa does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:30] <nayif> !sa
[04:30] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: So are those tty devices the only thing that shows up when you plug the phone in?
[04:30] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[04:30] <reep> tbuss: they should come back afterwards when you reinstall php4
[04:30] <wj32> !au
[04:30] <ubotu> au is the Australian LoCo Team has a channel at #ubuntu-au
[04:30] <nayif> wj32: hehe
[04:30] <tbuss> reep: ok, looking
[04:30] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: that were the changes right at connecting the device
[04:31] <c_lisp> how can you stop recent documents from saving in gnome?
[04:31] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: in messages file
[04:31] <wj32> will existing modules work with my custom kernel?
[04:31] <eck> wow, arabic looks really bad in my terminal
[04:31] <wj32> i really dont want to set up fglrx again
[04:31] <wj32> and vmware
[04:32] <tbuss> reep: run sudo aptitude purge on all file listed php5 | grep ^c
[04:32] <RenatoSilva> hey
[04:33] <RenatoSilva> 8th Free Sofware International Forum at Curitiba, Brazi!!!!
[04:33] <reep> tbuss: ok, try reinstalling php4 now
[04:33] <RenatoSilva> Did yopu noticed??? :D
[04:33] <tbuss> reep: hold on, i mistyped a few
[04:34] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: Did you try http://www.kmobiletools.org/?
[04:34] <theTrav> hmm, can I run this dd command in a way that will give me any sort of live progress indication?
[04:34] <denys> how do i connect to a hidden SSID?
[04:34] <wj32> 4 days until feisty!
[04:35] <Dano> I can't wait!
[04:35] <eck> denys: just add the ssid (and possibly ap mac address) in your iwconfig command
[04:35] <RenatoSilva> download kde from dial up it's a kind of impossible!
[04:35] <RenatoSilva> rss
[04:35] <eck> theTrav: watch -n 1 ls -lh the_file_you_are_dding_to
[04:35] <NewbieBaba> hey - Which MP3 Player do u prefer?
[04:36] <Juancab> eck: how do I copy the folder /mnt/sda1/var/vm in /home?
[04:36] <wj32> NewieBaba: you mean on the computer or portable
[04:36] <HelPmEe> need help
[04:36] <NewbieBaba> :) on ubuntu yea
[04:36] <wj32> NewbieBaba: I use iPod. On comp, I use QuodLibet
[04:36] <foxiness> wj32, 0 days for me ;)
[04:36] <stpaols> join #c
[04:36] <eck> Juancab: i would just do: cd ~; tar -cvzf vm.tar.gz -C /mnt/sda1/var vm
[04:36] <kungfugoat> I just finished reading this paper: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/
[04:37] <Falstius> anyone know the kernel switch to disable acpi or force apm?
[04:37] <eck> Juancab: that will create a gzipped tar file of vm
[04:37] <kungfugoat> very nice
[04:37] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: kde + dialup  = bad idea :D, and last update was about 1 year = bad ideia :D
[04:37] <wj32> kungfugoat: great. now read "Free as in Freedom"
[04:37] <eck> Juancab: same thing as for theTrav, you can use watch and ls to see the progress
[04:38] <eck> Juancab: of course, you want to cd to the partition that has the space
[04:38] <HelPmEe> this is probably really basic for some of you but..... if i have a file with adresses , people names,etc  and they are separated by a blank line.... how can I sort the list without these lines?
[04:38] <wj32> (someone give HelPmEe a complicated perl script)
[04:38] <theTrav> thanks eck
[04:39] <Shaba1> folks
[04:39] <wj32> yes?
[04:39] <eck> HelPmEe: if none of the lines are repeated you can just use uniq, but that is of course not the best solution
[04:39] <Shaba1> how do I get gedit to show hiddenfiles
[04:39] <wj32> Shaba1: right-click on the file list, click "Show Hidden Files"
[04:39] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: please take care to avoid becoming what we call here in Brazil as "Ubuntonos" and "GNU/Chatos" :D
[04:40] <ravalox> Hey, I'm trying to run Joomla and I can't get apache to handle php in Ubuntu it seems, it keeps trying to hand me a phtml file stream rather than display the content in a page.
[04:40] <tbuss> reep: okay, php4 installed
[04:40] <wj32> the annoying thing is the file list doesn't have actions like new, cut, copy, paste, delete so on
[04:40] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: You seem to be at an impass. Because it does not create a data device and only creates TTY devices you definatly need some specific software to transfer files
[04:40] <ravalox> How can I get apache with working php in ubuntu?
[04:40] <Shaba1> ok that workd
[04:40] <Shaba1> now
[04:40] <wj32> GNU = GNU Needs Users
[04:40] <Shaba1> Options to xscreensaver are stored in one of two places: in a .xscreensaver file in your home directory;
[04:40] <wj32> GNU = Generally Not Used
[04:40] <InnerFIRE_> anyone use democracytv?
[04:40] <reep> tbuss: working any better now?
[04:40] <eck> HelPmEe: got it, grep -v "^$" foo.txt
[04:41] <kungfugoat> wj32: thanks
[04:41] <Shaba1> I do not see an .xscreensaver directory
[04:41] <eck> wj32: no perl :-)
[04:41] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: that is, Ubuntu absolutely don't know what the hell was plugged on into my PC ass? :D
[04:41] <wj32> kungfugoat: thanks for what
[04:41] <wj32> eck: damn. i thought perl was good at text parsing and sorting
[04:41] <HelPmEe> eck: what is the -v standing for?
[04:41] <kungfugoat> wj32: the first page alone is making for interesting reading
[04:41] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: thanks to Sony Ericsson too for don't providing linux software :D
[04:41] <eck> HelPmEe: match lines that _don't_ match the regex
[04:41] <wj32> kungfugoat: I've only read FaiF twice
[04:42] <eck> wj32: it is, but i don't know grep and not perl :-)
[04:42] <dreamcastjack> okay, I'm duel booting Ubuntu 6.10 and Puppy 2.15CE.  I wanna  change out the Puppy HDD for another 40GB Hdd that I Have,  I wanna put Freespire 2.0 on it when its out.  will replaceing a Duel-Booted HDD mess my Edgy install up?  thanks.
[04:42] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: I'll take care
[04:42] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: :D
[04:42] <wj32> i'm not going to respond to anyone now, me going off to do some work
[04:42] <bluefox83> what module do you need to load to get the installer dvd to be able to see/use fat32?
[04:42] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: where are you from?
[04:42] <Juancab> eck: I can't cd ~
[04:42] <tbuss> reep: I noticed during the php4 install that it said forcing reload of apache, I'm going to test the php4 install
[04:43] <eck> Juancab: where do you have /home mounted?
[04:43] <RenatoSilva> Juancab: why?
[04:43] <eck> Juancab: you just need to move to a directory that has space before you execute the command
[04:43] <eck> i.e. on anohter partition
[04:43] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: I was born right above you in British Guiana (now Guyana)
[04:43] <Juancab> eck: /mnt/sda2
[04:43] <RenatoSilva> Juancab: the error, pelase?
[04:43] <kungfugoat> I now live in the U.S.
[04:43] <tbuss> reep: to be honest with you I think my head is about to explode
[04:44] <user01> is there a command to see how much physical memory is installed?
[04:44] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: wow, nice
[04:44] <eck> Juancab: then cd to /mnt/sda2 and run the tar command with sudo
[04:44] <pyrak> can someone help me print to a network printer?
[04:44] <Juancab> RenatoSilva: command not found
[04:44] <pyrak> im in the wizard on the driver part
[04:44] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: Actually Ubuntu knows EXACTLY what was plugged in. Its a standard com port
[04:44] <InnerFIRE_> democracyplayer depends on python (<< 2.5); however:
[04:44] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: but you don't speark Portuguese, right?
[04:44] <InnerFIRE_>   Version of python on system is 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3.
[04:44] <InnerFIRE_> 2.5 is installed
[04:44] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: no
[04:44] <kjared1> Anyone here using Beryl?
[04:44] <kungfugoat> I wish I did
[04:44] <InnerFIRE_> I am
[04:44] <Chadarius> kjared1: Yeah I use it... sometimes
[04:44] <dreamcastjack> i've used beryl
[04:44] <reep> tbuss: remember to breathe
[04:44] <wj32> !ask | EVERYONE
[04:44] <ubotu> EVERYONE: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:44] <reep> tbuss: it didn't work?
[04:44] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: blame the British
[04:44] <kjared1> What is the minimum video controller requirements - 128MB Nvidia/ATI?
[04:45] <kungfugoat> :p
[04:45] <tbuss> reep: something is not right.....
[04:45] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: what?
[04:45] <InnerFIRE_> where can i find mozilla-psm
[04:45] <reep> tbuss: does a <?=phpinfo()?> work?
[04:45] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: I was referring to the British occupation, instead of the portuguese or dutch
[04:45] <kjared1> Chadarius, how much RAM on vid controller do I need to use it?
[04:46] <tbuss> reep: should there be a .php test file in /var/www/ that already has the text <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[04:46] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: for Ubuntu it's something, the hell anything, with an USB cable, don't? Or EXACTLY: a Sony Ericsson W300i Cellphone??? :D
[04:46] <tbuss> reep: I had to set this up initially last time, why is it still there,  because it doesn't work
[04:47] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: bad English, dunno what's 'blame' :D
[04:47] <tbuss> reep: breathing
[04:47] <theTrav> hmm,
[04:47] <CokeNCode> anyone else having a problem with gaim crashing
[04:47] <theTrav> can I mount nrg files same as iso?
[04:47] <CokeNCode> a certain person on my list, whenever i talk to them
[04:47] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: version?
[04:47] <CokeNCode> my gaim crashes
[04:47] <theTrav> or does nero use a different format?
[04:47] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: to hold responsible
[04:47] <Chadarius> kjared1: I am not totally sure but I have used in with 64, 128 and 256 cards
[04:47] <kjared1> CNC - gaim doesn't kike proxies, is your friend using one?
[04:47] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: the existence of such a messenger is by itself a problem! :D
[04:47] <mina_linux_Tux> hey i'm using reconstructor , there is 2 options Alternate install CD and Desktop Live CD , which of them i have to use to make an iso installation image of my current running System , i tried Alternate CD , i were Asked to browse a working directory , what is this working directory or instead there to check create remaster and create initial ramdisk, that's in case i'll not keep my working directory contents , any content ..
[04:47] <mina_linux_Tux> pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[04:47] <kjared1> (like, not kike)
[04:47] <reep> tbuss: it's probably not there from installing, but /var/www doesn't get removed, even when purging...
[04:48] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: they're responsible for me speaking only english
[04:48] <CokeNCode> 2.0.0 beta 3.1
[04:48] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: are you responsible for England, is that? :D
[04:48] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: there are a lot of people that speak english and some dutch there, but no portuguese
[04:48] <tbuss> reep: I just thought since it was a php file that I created from the last php4 install that it would have been removed
[04:48] <reep> tbuss: you still get the dialog to open or save file?
[04:48] <CokeNCode> RenatoSilva, eh ... how so ? it's bugging the hell outo f me
[04:48] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: a prince?
[04:48] <CokeNCode> i need to switch over to amsn
[04:48] <CokeNCode> which is always creating a heap of connections
[04:48] <mina_linux_Tux> please any comment ...
[04:48] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: it's the other way around
[04:49] <mina_linux_Tux> may any one answer me
[04:49] <InnerFIRE_> wtf does anyone at all have any information into getting democracy player to work
[04:49] <dreamcastjack> okay, I'm duel booting Ubuntu 6.10 and Puppy 2.15CE. I wanna change out the Puppy HDD for another 40GB Hdd that I Have, I wanna put Freespire 2.0 on it when its out. will replacing a Duel-Booted HDD mess my Edgy install up? thanks.
[04:49] <tbuss> reep: no..............I need to take a break :)
[04:49] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: definitely i have to train my English :D
[04:49] <mina_linux_Tux> am i talking to myself here or what ?
[04:49] <lnx> hey could somebody find a driver for nvidia 7400Go Graphics card?  im running edgy eft
[04:49] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: many, all the time?
[04:49] <mina_linux_Tux> does anyone knows about this Reconstructor ?
[04:49] <eck> dreamcastjack: you can't mess anything up unless you remove the partition with the grub stage 1.5 files
[04:49] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: your version?
[04:50] <dreamcastjack> okay thanks.
[04:50] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: i'm with 2.0...00006 beta
[04:50] <dreamcastjack> how would I know which has the files?
[04:50] <Falstius> dreamcastjack: to add to what eck said, even if you do remove the drive with grub you can put the HD back and things will be fine.  Grub could then be installed to the other HD.
[04:50] <Juancab> eck: Sorry I don't have it clear, I have the partition for / mounted in /mnt/sda1, and inside it a folder /var/vm/ and you want me to compress it doing cd to /mnt/sda2?
[04:50] <mina_linux_Tux> any comment , ppl ?
[04:50] <eck> dreamcastjack: don't remove the partition that has the distro you used to install grub
[04:50] <lnx> hey could somebody find a driver for nvidia 7400Go Graphics card?  im running edgy eft
[04:50] <CokeNCode> 2.0.0 beta 3.1
[04:50] <CokeNCode> RenatoSilva,
[04:50] <reep> tbuss: I'm thinking you might have saved some time by just reinstalling ubuntu, and then install the gallery package ^^
[04:51] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: what?
[04:51] <eck> Juancab: you are going to create a tar.gz file with the contents of /var/vm . but since your / partition is full, you need to create the .tar.gz on a different partition
[04:51] <dreamcastjack> just to be safe how do I make sure my Ubuntu one is the grub holder?
[04:51] <tbuss> reep: I think you are right, but the dialog box is gone now
[04:51] <Chadarius> !nvidia
[04:51] <CokeNCode> RenatoSilva, i just told you the version of gaim i'm using
[04:51] <reep> tbuss: oh well, but do take a break, I think you've been at it for hours, and I just realized it's 5 in the morning and I should be in bed by now :)
[04:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:52] <mina_linux_Tux> any commment ?
[04:52] <eck> Juancab: so it doesn't matter where you create it, but if /home is on another partition then that is as good as any other place
[04:52] <mina_linux_Tux> please it's really urgent , am i off topic ?
[04:52] <tbuss> reep: ok reep, thanks for all you help take it easy
[04:52] <lnx> thanks
[04:52] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: no!
[04:52] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: you didn't !!!
[04:52] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: please!!!
[04:52] <atselby> can anyone help me with this?
[04:53] <atselby> I need to know hte command to edit the sessions for gnome via terminalline
[04:53] <Falstius> dreamcastjack: depending on your system, you may NEED the first drive to be the one with grub (hda or primary master).  You should just make sure grub is installed to that.  Check the boot order of your machine.
[04:53] <HelPmEe> eck: As i told you for the file with blank lines....how would i be able to know the number of people in the file ? ( wc )
[04:54] <Juancab> eck: It says "sudo: cd: command not found"
[04:54] <vox754> mina_linux_Tux, you've asked for over three hours... I guess nobody knows
[04:54] <dreamcastjack> ah okay, Ubuntu is then.
[04:54] <dreamcastjack> thanks again guys
[04:54] <eck> HelPmEe: i would grep for the pattern that shows lines with people (e.g. ^Person: ) and then use wc to count the output of that
[04:54] <InnerFIRE_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:54] <InnerFIRE_>   democracyplayer: Depends: python (< 2.5) but 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[04:54] <InnerFIRE_>                    Depends: mozilla-dev but it is not installable
[04:54] <InnerFIRE_>                    Depends: mozilla-psm but it is not installable
[04:54] <eck> HelPmEe: or if there is one blank line per entry in the file, you could just grep for blank lines and use wc on that
[04:54] <SpAc> is there some info on how to fix the nasty looking fonts in emacs?
[04:55] <dc> hello all
[04:55] <dc> can someone help me?
[04:55] <dreamcastjack> Ubuntu 7.04 and Freespire 2.0 cant wait to have them both.. damn Linux is liek crack
[04:55] <RenatoSilva> i give up
[04:55] <mina_linux_Tux> vox754: so and no one answered me , i'm now on this Reconstructor , i want to create Customized Install CD from running system
[04:55] <RenatoSilva> will format and install windows
[04:55] <eck> Juancab: that is because cd is a bash built in, you just need to use sudo with the tar command, not with cd
[04:55] <dc> no one is savy enough to help me :(
[04:55] <Avalos> RenatoSilva,  posso ajudar =)
[04:55] <|Jason8|> Hello everyone, I just installed a .deb package, how can I uninstall it?
[04:55] <eck> !ask | dc
[04:55] <ubotu> dc: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:55] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: aeee, brasileiros!!!!
[04:55] <helloyo> has anyone here encoded video for there mobile? could somebody please help me out with it?
[04:56] <gobbles414> need help with special characters please
[04:56] <vox754> mina_linux_Tux, a lot of people answered, but nobody knows...
[04:56] <dc> thanks
[04:56] <Avalos> RenatoSilva,  heheh qq tah pegando ?
[04:56] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: conectar mey sony ericsson w300i no ubuntu
[04:56] <wj32> !ask | EVERYONE
[04:56] <ubotu> EVERYONE: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:56] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: eu plugo e nada acontece
[04:56] <user01> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b when i do glxinfo |grep direct
[04:56] <vox754> wj32, very clever
[04:56] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: suporte nativo nao tem, e alguma app que reconhea o troco
[04:56] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: ?
[04:56] <gobbles414> hi ubotu... I have a question about typing accents
[04:56] <wj32> vox754: :)
[04:57] <dc> I need to rotate the screen on my laptop 180 degrees.  how do i do it?
[04:57] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: apt-get install troo
[04:57] <dc>  I need to rotate the screen on my laptop 180 degrees.  how do i do it?
[04:57] <Avalos> aq quando vc pluga sai alguma mensagem no syslog?
[04:57] <dc> oops
[04:57] <wj32> gobbles414: ubotu is a bot.
[04:57] <eck> dc: it is an option in the gnome screen resolution thing
[04:57] <dreamcastjack> so I wont have to reinstall All the programs I installed with just upgrading, right?
[04:57] <dc> eck: it is greyed out
[04:57] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: inciciar > troo > detectar fone > transf arquivos
[04:57] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: isso q quero
[04:57] <gobbles414> ah... then maybe you can help me wj32?
[04:57] <clever[rev] > dv: man xrandr
[04:57] <eXcAliBuR> if i'm using putty to connect to my ubuntu server and the network goes down and i get cut off.. is there any way to recover the session?
[04:57] <wj32> gobbles414: maybe.
[04:57] <dc> clever: was that to me?
[04:58] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: mas to give upando, vou formatar e vou pro Windows
[04:58] <SpAc> programs like emacs have a nasty non-anti-aliased font... is there a way I can fix that?
[04:58] <clever[rev] > dc: yes
[04:58] <vox754> !br | RenatoSilva Avalos
[04:58] <ubotu> RenatoSilva Avalos: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:58] <eck> SpAc: with emacs you need to grab emacs 22 or something
[04:58] <clever[rev] > dc: open a terminal and run 'man xrandr'
[04:58] <RenatoSilva> ubotu: sorry
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <gobbles414> thanks wj32... I am trying to enable the typing of accents (special characters) in word processor and internet
[04:58] <RenatoSilva> ubotu: ok
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <vox754> !thanks | RenatoSilva Avalos
[04:58] <ubotu> RenatoSilva Avalos: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:58] <SpAc> eck, so the one in the repos is a bit old?
[04:58] <eck> SpAc: i am not really sure, my roommate had to grab cvs for emacs. whether an application has nice fonts or not depends on how it is coded
[04:58] <RenatoSilva> it's because he speaks this way, sorry
[04:59] <eck> SpAc: i think the one in feisty might have it
[04:59] <twiztr> Hey, I am trying to remotely access my other box (192.168.1.xxx) from this computer... How do that.
[04:59] <twiztr> they ar both Ubutu 6.10
[04:59] <vox754> !english | RenatoSilva Avalos
[04:59] <ubotu> RenatoSilva Avalos: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:59] <RenatoSilva> ubotu: oh bots!!! you're a constant in my life
[04:59] <SpAc> eck: not too worried about 'nice', it's just hard to read!
[04:59] <wj32> gobbles414: you can. but not easily
[04:59] <SpAc> eck: let me see what I've got...
[04:59] <wj32> gobbles414: so..
[04:59] <RenatoSilva> vox754: ok!!!!
[04:59] <wj32> gobbles414: wait
[04:59] <Madsy2> Ok, I just recently had a power faliure here, which proved fatal. Now I can't even boot my filesystem. I've booted up my knoppix CD. Is it possible to fix my ubuntu ext3 partition from there?
[04:59] <Madsy2> http://rafb.net/p/TwuedD99.html
[05:00] <RenatoSilva> well can someone give me tips about other nice channels outthere?
[05:00] <gobbles414> wj32... I can do it if helped step-by-step.  Can you help like that... or do you have a link?
[05:00] <wj32> gobbles414: how did you do it in Windows
[05:00] <RenatoSilva> #ubuntu-political???
[05:00] <|Jason8|> Hello everyone, I just installed a .deb package, how can I uninstall it?
[05:00] <Madsy2> Also, can I run fsck in user mode? And do I have to mount my partition first?
[05:00] <RenatoSilva> #foss?
[05:00] <dreamcastjack> Jason use Synaptic
[05:00] <Juancab> eck: How do I know if it's ready?
[05:01] <vox754> RenatoSilva, stay away from political discussions. You can create your own channel like ##Renato, and speak to people there privately
[05:01] <wj32> hey, whats the compose key for?
[05:01] <gobbles414> ALT + 160
[05:01] <eck> Juancab: when the tar command completes
[05:01] <clever[rev] > Madsy2: fsck runs in usermode and cant run on a mounted partition
[05:01] <RenatoSilva> vox754: aff!!!
[05:01] <eck> Juancab: you can check the file size with ls -lh to see theprogress
[05:01] <RenatoSilva> vox754: tell me nice channels :P
[05:01] <SpAc> is anyone using emacs to code ruby?
[05:01] <RenatoSilva> vox754: i know only this!
[05:02] <RenatoSilva> vox754: i'm asking for political channels cause logically i don't want to do it here! :P
[05:02] <dreamcastjack> is the 7.04 final gonna include CNR service?
[05:02] <eck> SpAc: i guess emacs 22 uses gtk and can use the gnome font settings, or something like that. it is going to be released later this month
[05:02] <gobbles414> oh... ALT + 160 gives a lowercase a with an accent
[05:03] <RenatoSilva> dreamcastjack: CNR = ?
[05:03] <SpAc> eck: looks good!
[05:03] <vox754> RenatoSilva, use #ubuntu-offtopic for random discussion, #politics is VERY controversial
[05:03] <thirst> is there a way to convert a video to its individual jpeg images(frame by frame) in linux
[05:03] <RenatoSilva> vox754: Jesus!! are you a bot?????
[05:03] <RenatoSilva> how do i detect a bot???????????
[05:03] <crdlb> thirst, using mplayer
[05:03] <eck> thirst: mencoder
[05:03] <dreamcastjack> Click N Run service, I heard it would be using it (linspire uses it..since the partnership I think it is gonna ahve it)
[05:03] <user01> i have a radeon 7500 mobility should the driver in xorg be ati or radeon?
[05:04] <wj32> gobbles414: goto System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[05:04] <thirst> crdlb:  couldnt find the option.. can you plz help.. :)
[05:04] <vox754> !offtopic > RenatoSilva
[05:04] <RenatoSilva> vox754: sorry now i understand
[05:04] <solifugus> Question: why are there so few programs available to install on ubuntu?
[05:04] <eck> mencoder is the encoder, mplayeris the player
[05:04] <crdlb> user01, doesn't matter
[05:04] <crdlb> user01, ati is a wrapper for radeon
[05:04] <RenatoSilva> vox754: what are these "!" and ">" ??
[05:04] <user01> crdlb: oh good to know tanks
[05:04] <vox754> !bot > RenatoSilva
[05:04] <RenatoSilva> wow nice!!!!
[05:04] <mina_linux_Tux> vox754: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[05:04] <RenatoSilva> vox754: wow!!!
[05:05] <gobbles414> I'm there wj32
[05:05] <capgadget> 7.04 beta looks slick via vmware. Release date is 4/19-ish?
[05:05] <mina_linux_Tux> vox754: does this do what i want
[05:05] <solifugus> How can I find more software to install on Ubuntu... like bzFlag and all the normal games and programs every other distro has..
[05:05] <crdlb> thirst, you can use: mplayer -vo jpeg
[05:05] <RenatoSilva> vox754: so, ubuntu+1 and ubuntu-offtopic?? thanks!!!
[05:05] <Dasnipa`> capgadget, ish
[05:05] <wj32> gobbles414: then  click Layout Options, Compose key position
[05:05] <Linuxor> Hi,Please, I want to transform CD to ISO , how to do?
[05:05] <wj32> gobbles414: select Right Win-key is Compose
[05:05] <RenatoSilva> vox754: now, is tehre a way to see a tree of channels around the world???
[05:05] <user01> crdlb: koules isnt working for some reason
[05:05] <Dasnipa`> capgadget, the RC is getting delayed... so _maybe_ the release will be delayed... it depends on the quality of the RC
[05:05] <Sean> eck: Are you there?
[05:06] <wj32> gobbles414: now, press the right windows key once. then a, e, i, o, or u.
[05:06] <crdlb> user01, koules?
[05:06] <eck> RenatoSilva: /msg chanserv list #*searchstring*
[05:06] <vox754> mina_linux_Tux, probably yes... I gave you those links, but I haven't had the need to do that.
[05:06] <eck> Sean: yeah
[05:06] <user01> crdlb: yes crashes
[05:06] <capgadget> Yep about to make Ubuntu my primary Linux and Fedora 2nd fiddle.  Fedora doesn't have enough bees making the wax anymore unfortunately ESR, is not 100% wrong.
[05:06] <wj32> gobbles414: then, - or _
[05:06] <Sean> eck: Remember me from last night? I am still having issue.
[05:06] <user01> crdlb: video in dual monitor doesnt work either
[05:06] <Sean> eck: I tried to make a forum post on it with every bit of info I had. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408589
[05:06] <kungfugoat> I'm still amazed that linux lasted this long
[05:07] <kungfugoat> I guess staying relevant is very important
[05:07] <capgadget> LOL 7.04 probing an existing XP installation and asking if you want to add them as Linux users was interesting.  It might upset the M$ Empire a bit.
[05:07] <gobbles414> ok... in ooo now... brb
[05:07] <eXcAliBuR> i'm surprised bill gates is still alive
[05:07] <thirst> crdlb:  thanks. lemme try that
[05:07] <dreamcastjack> i'm gonna use Ubuntu 7.04 and Freespire 2.0.  my fave 2 distros.. may make a second machine for PCLOS and Puppy
[05:07] <wj32> gobbles414: what character do you want to type?
[05:07] <eck> Sean: have you used pamtester before?
[05:07] <capgadget> Well he supposedly wants to go into space and the Tech the Russian's use is 40+ years old.
[05:08] <kungfugoat> eXcAliBuR: Bill Gates is going to have a talking head in Futurama
[05:08] <Juancab> eck: have you read this http://arun-prabha.com/wdpress/?p=301?
[05:08] <solifugus> Is there no bigger software repository for ubuntu somewhere?
[05:08] <Sean> eck: Nope, what is it do?
[05:08] <BrMiHi08> hello
[05:08] <eck> Sean: you should use that to check that pam can authenticate the password correctly
[05:08] <Sean> eck: Probe pam for bugs?
[05:08] <vox754> solifugus, if you think you know the name of a game type "aptitude search <name>" and it will list matching packages
[05:08] <capgadget> He better bring his own hot air supply.  I think he can borrow some from Balmer.
[05:08] <Sean> Ah okay
[05:08] <gobbles414> how about the upside down?
[05:08] <icicled> i don't want the totem plugin for mozilla and i can't uninstall it w/o breaking dependencies! wtf! help :P
[05:08] <owh> solifugus: Bigger than what?
[05:08] <kungfugoat> I had to laugh when I took the bus the other day and the TV screens all started to blue screen
[05:08] <mina_linux_Tux> vox754: but as i see from the previous doc , only it change the preseed , isolinux.cfq, pool structure ,..etc , where is the thing i need include the configs files, Driver settings, the image mean
[05:08] <Sean> eck: Okay will switch from Mac to Ubuntu in a sec.
[05:09] <wj32> gobbles414: what character do you want.
[05:09] <BrMiHi08> has anyone had any trouble with 7.04 and connecting to a wireless network>
[05:09] <solifugus> owh: well it seems tiny.. it has only a short list of like default kde games and such.. for games.. for example... no lyx.. no many things..
[05:09] <gobbles414> wj32... can I try an upside down ? (sorry I don't know what it's called)
[05:09] <zilly6__> anyone know how to do a negative regular expression?
[05:09] <owh> solifugus: It seems that you might not have turned on all repositories, I show lyx in my list.
[05:09] <BrMiHi08> has anyone had any trouble with 7.04 and connecting to a wireless network?
[05:09] <capgadget> I saw a joke pick of a glass cockpit of a passenger jet landing, Kungfu...  It had a blue screen.  Lots of umpteen feet high X umpteen feet wide electronic billboards with bluescreens.
[05:10] <eck> Juancab: if /var/backup is using up a lot of space you can definitely remove the files in it
[05:10] <vox754> mina_linux_Tux, well, for that you probably need to write a "shell script" to copy configurations and move files around. That is you need to know some programming. The other alternative is, as you have tried, to clone the harddrive. I'm terribly sorry we are unable to help you further.
[05:10] <solifugus> owh: how do you turn them on.. cause yeah... i see very little software.... only extremely core stuff..
[05:10] <wj32> gobbles414: after you go right-win and a/e/i/o/u, you can press: `,~,-,_,,,^
[05:10] <owh> solifugus: Go into Administration -> Software Sources
[05:10] <BrMiHi08> if anyone is paying attention, I am picking up my wireless card, but no matter what I do, I cannot connect
[05:10] <capgadget> I prefered the Amiga "Guru Visitation" Ooops notifications.
[05:10] <thirst> crdlb:  looks like that doesnt help
[05:10] <vox754> BrMiHi08, #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <owh> BrMiHi08: What kind of network are you trying to connect to?
[05:11] <wj32> gobbles414: for example right-win, a, ~ produces: 
[05:11] <oxigen> hi, anyone knows how to purge bauncing mail (Warning: message delayed 48 hours)?
[05:11] <owh> BrMiHi08: Oh, are you on 7.04?
[05:11] <BrMiHi08> owh: yes
[05:11] <owh> BrMiHi08: You need to join #ubuntu+1 and ask the question there.
[05:11] <BrMiHi08> owh:thanks
[05:11] <Gigi> Hi!  How can I send files from a CD to my iPod using gtkpod?
[05:11] <mina_linux_Tux> how to burn a CD on ubuntu
[05:11] <wj32> gobbles414: works?
[05:11] <eck> oxigen: read the docs for your mta
[05:11] <owh> mina_linux_Tux: How do you mean?
[05:12] <eck> exim is the one installedby default
[05:12] <oxigen> eck, thanks!
[05:12] <solifugus> owh: I see System -> Adept Manager Manager Software Packages... presume that's it
[05:12] <kungfugoat> can anyone point me to a good gui for apache 2.0?
[05:12] <vox754> !burn > mina_linux_Tux
[05:12] <owh> solifugus: I'm guessing that you're running Dapper?
[05:12] <vox754> !gnomebaker > mina_linux_Tux
[05:12] <nn-laptop> my hard drive will spin down when i issue the command hdparm -Y but with in a half a minute it spins back up how do i fix this
[05:12] <solifugus> owh: I just downloaded what i think was the latest kubuntu
[05:12] <owh> nn-laptop: Well, your swap might be using it
[05:13] <vox754> !info gnomebaker > mina_linux_Tux
[05:13] <owh> solifugus: So, is that 7.04?
[05:13] <solifugus> I don't know.. how can check?
[05:13] <gobbles414> I'm able to get most of the letters as you've described... how about currency symbols, etc.
[05:13] <solifugus> owh: how can i check for that?
[05:13] <Gigi> Hi!  How can I send files from a CD to my iPod using gtkpod?  Or how can I extract a file from a CD to mp3 (I do with juicer to ogg but is not compatible)
[05:14] <owh> solifugus: Hmm, I'm trying to remember the command :)
[05:14] <gobbles414> gigi... i thing that banshee is supposed to be able to transcode .ogg to ipod format if ipod is from windows
[05:14] <Sean> eck: Well it's not compiling the pamtester correct (errors when executing make (C errors, I may have an insufficient version))
[05:14] <eck> Gigi: i have used lame to convert to mp3, but that is a command line tool, i'm not sure what graphical apps there are
[05:14] <owh> solifugus: System -> About Ubuntu shows my version.
[05:14] <vox754> solifugus, owh type "lsb_release -a"
[05:14] <Avalos> kungfugoat, did u try webmin ?
[05:14] <eck> Sean: pastebin the error
[05:14] <owh> vox754: Tah :)
[05:15] <Sean> eck: Well, not so simple. There are a lot and I cant just put it on my clipboard lol
[05:15] <Gigi> gobbles414 in my home there is only Linux on my 3 computers.  Since 2 years I been using only Ubuntu :) So the ipod is from Ubuntu
[05:15] <twiztr> I have two Ubuntu boxes, one wired into the back of the Linksys Wifi router, and the other thru a wifi card.  This one shows the IP on 192.168.1.100, and the other shows ".".".101. How can I access the other one from this box.
[05:15] <solifugus> owh and vox754: it says Edgy
[05:15] <Sean> eck: I am using Ubuntu without X or all of that, totally command line
[05:15] <eck> Sean: oh, i think you need the pam-dev package
[05:15] <nn-laptop> no it has a err message
[05:15] <eck> or whatever it is called
[05:15] <nn-laptop> owl
[05:15] <Sean> eck: k
[05:16] <eck> libpam0g-dev
[05:16] <kungfugoat> Avalos: I haven't
[05:16] <nn-laptop> no it has a err message owh
[05:16] <solifugus> owh and vox754: I see nothing in the Adept package manager that isn't checked or any way to specify additional package repositories....
[05:16] <nn-laptop> owh, the err message is hda irq timeout
[05:16] <kungfugoat> Avalos: that's perfect
[05:16] <vox754> solifugus, "sudo aptitude update"
[05:16] <colbert> how do I extract a .tar.gz file to /home/user ?
[05:16] <colbert> in terminal
[05:16] <wj32> would it be a good idea to let people let us vnc them for support?
[05:17] <kungfugoat> after using the windows 2003 server tools, editing text does get old for a lot of things
[05:17] <eck> colbert: tar -xvzf foo.tar.gc -C ~user
[05:17] <vox754> !tar > colbert
[05:17] <nn-laptop> my hard drive will spin down when i issue the command hdparm -Y but with in a half a minute it spins back up how do i fix this;; the error mesage seems to be irq timeout
[05:17] <owh> solifugus: The repositories are "main", "universe" and "multiverse"
[05:17] <Avalos> kungfugoat, =)
[05:17] <asdx> hi, when is feisty supossed to be released?
[05:17] <Sean> eck: Installing now.
[05:17] <Sean> eck: Done, now should I attempt to restart SSH and then connect?
[05:17] <firefly2442> are there any good GUI tools for converting WMA to MP3?
[05:18] <Gigi> I'm exporting to library with the banshee thing.  I see the iPod too... let's see.  I never needed a CD coz I been using mp3 always.  But now I have some CD froms Anthony Robbins and I need to get them in my iPoD
[05:18] <orac7000> gigi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping#head-f109ee313aa77bf2997e6499584438e9f7691d58
[05:18] <firefly2442> I tried soundkonverter already
[05:18] <wj32> asdx: april 19th
[05:18] <eck> Sean: no, you use pamtester to check your pam config files directly
[05:18] <owh> nn-laptop: That would be because you are trying to force an IDE drive to immediately shut down. Linux won't like that.
[05:18] <vox754> wj32, it depends on how much you trust people. I would go into others machines but I wouldn't allow people to go inside mine
[05:18] <Sean> eck: Okay...
[05:18] <solifugus> owh: ok.. where can I see/set thoughs?
[05:18] <wj32> firefly2442: sudo apt-get install soundconverter
[05:18] <eck> e.g. pamtester the_pam_service your_user authenticate
[05:18] <Juancab> eck: Ok, the gz file is ready. What now?
[05:18] <Gigi> thanks orac7000 I will do it if this does not go thru :)
[05:18] <nn-laptop> than how do i fix that owh
[05:18] <firefly2442> wj32, I tried that one too, I don't think it works with WMA
[05:18] <eck> Juancab: you can first check that you got the right files in it with tar -tvzf foo.tar.gz
[05:18] <orac7000> gigi: that is how I do it, works perfectly
[05:18] <owh> nn-laptop: Don't use capital Y.
[05:19] <wj32> firefly2442: it does, it supports whatever gstreamer has support for
[05:19] <owh> solifugus: I don't know what the gui solution is for you under kubuntu.
[05:19] <wj32> firefly2442: to get wma support:
[05:19] <wj32> !w32codecs | firefly2442
[05:19] <ubotu> firefly2442: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:19] <Gigi> cool arac7000
[05:19] <Sean> eck: Now it's compiling good :D
[05:19] <Gigi> thanks!
[05:19] <owh> solifugus: I'm googling for you :)
[05:20] <solifugus> owh: well... I am reading throught he man page for aptitude
[05:20] <eck> Sean: i guessthe pam service name is ssh
[05:20] <gobbles414> thanks for getting me on the right track wj32... can i also enable ascii support (left win-key + 160)
[05:20] <eck> Sean: if you use -v you can have it verbosely display the pam errors so you can see what is going on
[05:20] <owh> solifugus: Well, the sources list is in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:20] <wj32> gobbles414: you're welcome
[05:20] <vox754> nn-laptop, start by looking at "man hdparm"
[05:20] <firefly2442> wj32, oh duh, I forgot the win32 codecs, thanks
[05:20] <owh> nn-laptop: The capital Y is different from y.
[05:20] <wj32> gobble414: yes you can
[05:21] <eck> Juancab: after you have verified that hte files are in the tarball, you can move /var or /usr
[05:21] <Sean> eck: So what would be the command I use?
[05:21] <eck> Sean: pamtester -v ssh sean authenticate
[05:21] <Sean> eck: If my username is sean
[05:21] <wj32> gobbles414: in there goto Compatibility Options or something
[05:21] <Sean> pamtester: sucessfully authenticated
[05:21] <nn-laptop> i know but the -y option onily spins down for 3 secounds
[05:21] <Sean> worked on sshd
[05:21] <ravalox> Anyone here gotten php to work on apache in ubuntu?
[05:22] <Sean> eck: and worked on sdjfhasjkdfhajsdfh
[05:22] <Juancab> eck: Ok. I do that re-partitioning the disk?
[05:22] <eck> Juancab: yeah
[05:22] <wj32> Hey, how do I get Shift+U working?
[05:22] <Sean> eck: Because I set it to work on all services, no matter what.
[05:22] <owh> nn-laptop: That's because something else is trying to access the drive. -Y turns it off. Not good.
[05:22] <eck> Sean: what do you mean?
[05:22] <eck> Sean: you set pam to authenticate on all services???
[05:22] <Caplin> does the ubuntu installer allow you to resize ntfs partitions?
[05:22] <Sean> eck: Yes
[05:22] <Sean> eck: to work if it asks that
[05:22] <eck> Sean: so what if ssh root@your_computer
[05:22] <solifugus> owh: thanks.. that file seems to have things i can uncomment to get "edgy universe" packages...
[05:22] <Madsy2> Fsck failed. Hooray. Guess I'll be buying a new harddrive next week :-(
[05:23] <owh> solifugus: Excellent. I wasn't sure if they were there or not.
[05:23] <buggie> hi everyone... long time no type! :)
[05:23] <pyrak> how do i install a printer driver?
[05:23] <vox754> Caplin, I don't remember, I'd say no. But the Knoppix Live CD can.
[05:23] <Sean> eck: Huh?
[05:23] <Caplin> i already used up my last blank cd....
[05:23] <Caplin> crap
[05:24] <eck> Sean: if it authenticates on all services, then can't anyone ssh in?
[05:24] <pyrak> im in the graphic setup utility for setting up a network printer
[05:24] <nn-laptop> then what the heck is trying to access an minimul system install !!!!!!
[05:24] <Sean> eck: Services, not usernames lol
[05:24] <pyrak> and i think i need to install a driver
[05:24] <feistyman> >	can anyone suggest a good photo printing program, that lets you print multiple copies of, for example, 4 x 6
[05:24] <nn-laptop> harddisk!!!
[05:24] <buggie> i've tried ubuntu, for my 6th time, to get native support for my broadcom modem... and sadly, we still don't have native support thanks to Broadcom... however, i have another issue I wish to pick your brains with... how does one use an external LCD with a laptop on Feisty?
[05:24] <evilsherpa> hey all, um, trying to unmount a physical drive
[05:24] <owh> pyrak: What makes you think that?
[05:24] <evilsherpa> how to'
[05:24] <evilsherpa> ?
[05:24] <Sean> eck: It pends for authentication on all services, if login is incorrect, fails.
[05:24] <solifugus> owh: aptitude update is now taking a long time.. so i think it's getting a lot more package info.. this might do it..
[05:24] <owh> evilsherpa: sudu umount /dev/{mumble}
[05:24] <Sean> eck: Otherwise it will work.
[05:24] <eck> Sean: have you tried using ssh keys?
[05:24] <owh> evilsherpa: s/sudu/sudo/
[05:25] <wj32> gobbles414: press control+shift+u and while still holding control+shift, type 160
[05:25] <eck> Sean: that might be easier, since something really weird is going on
[05:25] <wj32> gobbles414: then release
[05:25] <vox754> !dual head > buggie
[05:25] <Gigi> I dragged the files from library to iPoD and now I thing that sync will be the last task.  However, I'm importing another CD before going thru
[05:25] <pyrak> owh, i select the model, and below it it names the driver
[05:25] <Sean> eck: How would I?
[05:25] <eck> Sean: in your log it says bad password, but obviously you know the password
[05:25] <pyrak> (recommended)
[05:25] <eck> Sean: ssh-keygen
[05:25] <kungfugoat> buggie: good luck getting external monitor to work properly if you have an ati X1600
[05:25] <owh> pyrak: So, what is wrong with that?
[05:25] <buggie> vox754: scuse me?
[05:25] <pyrak> owh, theres a brown dot next to it
[05:25] <eck> Sean: that will make you an ssh key
[05:25] <Sean> eck: Okay?
[05:25] <pyrak> owh, then theres a button that says install driv er
[05:25] <eck> Sean: then you add the public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[05:25] <pyrak> owh, then it seems to want me to FIND the driver
[05:26] <eck> Sean: then when you ssh in it uses the ssh key to authenticate you, not your passowrd
[05:26] <buggie> kungfugoat: I have an ati but not an x
[05:26] <colbert> How do I rip/convert an .avi (music video) to a .mp3 file in Ubuntu ??
[05:26] <Sean> eck: I would need to transfer the key though right, to my PC?
[05:26] <Sean> eck: How do the keys work anyway?
[05:26] <eck> Sean: that is correct
[05:26] <pyrak> owh, cus it pulls open the file brownser and says select a ppd file
[05:26] <gobbles414> wj32: will try, brb
[05:26] <buggie> kungfugoat: i'm using the monitor in question currently  but it really sucks (resolution wise)
[05:27] <eck> Sean: basically, the sshd server makes a code, sends it to you encrypting with your public key, and only if you have the private key can you decrypt the code and send it back to the server
[05:27] <buggie> kungfugoat: just realized my num lock wasn't on... sorry ... I don't have an x1600
[05:27] <owh> pyrak: Which Manufacturer and Model?
[05:27] <eck> Sean: so it's a way of proving your identity without a password
[05:27] <wj32> arrghh. how long is compiling the kernel meant to take? i saw this article which said 20 minutes
[05:27] <pyrak> lexmark x75
[05:27] <konam> hi a todos
[05:27] <pyrak> owh, lexmark x75
[05:27] <kungfugoat> buggie: I have and I can't get hibernation to work with the ati driver
[05:27] <HelPmEe> How can i sort 2 fields on a file but these fields are seperated by spaces
[05:28] <buggie> kungfugoat: you can do standby though right?
[05:28] <konam> i can't rip dvds under ubuntu dapper, what's the matter?
[05:28] <compilerwriter> sean: I am weighing in late, but I use only key for ssh authentication.
[05:28] <Gigi> Did you guys tried Vista?  It stinks tons!!!!!!!!!  I have a customer who has it... the pc is new and the customer just do investing on the pc... and now, a month later... is starting to die!!!!! Lol!
[05:28] <owh> pyrak: Do you see "lxx74 (recommended) (Suggested)" next to the "Install Driver..." button?
[05:28] <pyrak> it says the recommended driver is Ixx74
[05:28] <kungfugoat> buggie: standby works but it's not reliable
[05:28] <compilerwriter> sean my machine won't even authenticate with a password.
[05:28] <pyrak> owh, yes
[05:28] <eck> compilerwriter: me too :-)
[05:28] <buggie> Gigi: roger that
[05:28] <kungfugoat> sometimes it won't come out of standby either
[05:28] <wj32> HelPmEe: which field do you want to sort by?
[05:28] <kungfugoat> I really don't like ATI now
[05:28] <Sean> eck: Okay, so where do I start out? :)
[05:28] <owh> pyrak: The Install button is to ADD a new driver. Just click Forward
[05:28] <compilerwriter> sean that way I can't have someone try to hack my account.
[05:29] <kungfugoat> anybody want to buy a fujitsu laptop?
[05:29] <eck> Sean: use ssh-keygen to make a pair of keys
[05:29] <compilerwriter> yes it is a good security measure eck.
[05:29] <buggie> kungfugoat: i've had no problems with my standby... though i have to admit, i'm not using ubuntu as much as i'd like... sadly, it's winblows 90% of the time
[05:29] <wj32> kungfugoat: sure, you can buy one for me
[05:29] <HelPmEe> wj32 : sorry i mean i want to view only for example the first and third field
[05:29] <pyrak> owh, ok, but then i hit apply, and the new printer doesnt show up
[05:29] <Gigi> roger that?  What do you mean buggie ?
[05:29] <pyrak> owh, do i nee?
[05:29] <pyrak> owh, do i need to restart something?
[05:29] <vox754> !offtopic > Gigi
[05:29] <wj32> HelPmEe: ??
[05:29] <HelPmEe> wj32 : probably cut command would do but...
[05:29] <kungfugoat> wj32: good luck
[05:29] <kungfugoat> buggie: I'm in the same boat
[05:30] <Gigi> oh ok
[05:30] <kungfugoat> I just don't like windows
[05:30] <owh> pyrak: That's interesting, it doesn't here either, gimmie a mo...
[05:30] <Val_> can anyone tell me why Desktop 6.1 isn't detecting my keyboard when I try to install? It works fine in the initial boot screen...
[05:30] <Gigi> I thought that
[05:30] <eck> Sean: read this http://fedoranews.org/dowen/sshkeys/
[05:30] <kungfugoat> I use windows in the corporate world and that makes me want to kill myself
[05:30] <buggie> kungfugoat: i've been trying for nearly 2 years to go purely ubuntu... and i'm still in the same boat with a lot of others...
[05:30] <Sean> eck: Okay
[05:30] <wj32> buggie: describe the boat.
[05:30] <Pelo> Val_,  usb keyboard ?  check the forum  there's loads of stuff on this
[05:31] <buggie> kungfugoat: i even... *gulp*... tried openSuSE... and it's okay, but not nearly as good as ubuntu
[05:31] <Val_> neg, standard pinned keyboard connector
[05:31] <HelPmEe> I have a file with 4 fields separated by spaces. I need to show ( grep) only the first and third field. How is it possible? (cut ???)
[05:31] <kungfugoat> ubuntu is really the best
[05:31] <owh> pyrak: Is the printer turned on?
[05:31] <kungfugoat> I tried mepis but the user community is small
[05:31] <Pelo> Val_,  check the forum anyway,  I have no idea
[05:31] <pyrak> owh, yes
[05:31] <buggie> wj32: meaning, i want so much to use it "out of the box' ... and sadly, it's not possible due to proprietary drivers (i.e. broadcom, etc.)
[05:31] <Val_> thanks Pelo
[05:31] <Gigi> orac7000 I have the files from the CDs on the library.  How do I send them to the iPoD
[05:32] <wj32> HelPmEe: I could do a little C proggie for you later if you want../
[05:32] <owh> pyrak: And did it detect it?
[05:32] <pyrak> owh, yes, i as able to select it under another computer on mshome
[05:32] <buggie> while i'm a certified web developer and a major tech enthusiast, i don't want to learn to compile kernels and so forth to make it "just work"
[05:32] <kungfugoat> ubuntu is making me re-evaluate what I really need to use a computer for
[05:32] <HelPmEe> wj32: i only need one line command to grep that
[05:32] <owh> pyrak: As a Network printer?
[05:32] <pyrak> owh, yes
[05:32] <sgtmattbaker> probably not a question for here but does anyone know if I can install Windows on my hard drive and then install it as a virtual machine to use in virtual box.. or is that restricted in the EULA?  (this is XP)
[05:32] <jrib> HelPmEe: yeah, cut would work, or awk
[05:33] <wj32> HelPmEe: then you've got the solution already
[05:33] <kungfugoat> buggie: sadly, if you doing .NET stuff, it's still a windows world
[05:33] <buggie> kungfugoat: while i can't say that, i keep recommending less computer literate folks to go Ubuntu.... because their needs are far less "needy" than mine... and so far, it's working well
[05:33] <owh> pyrak: It could be a bug. Lemmie have a looksee.
[05:33] <wj32> sgtmattbaker: you can. vista: no.
[05:33] <Pelo> sgtmattbaker,  ##windows
[05:33] <HelPmEe> wj32: but how? with columns or field? ( -c -f ) ?
[05:33] <vox754> buggie, I hope you have visited http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[05:33] <wj32> .net with mono
[05:33] <orac7000> gigi: personally I have been usinf yamipod, but gtkpod has an an add files button
[05:33] <buggie> kungfugoat: I"m not ... i'm doing mostly static "with fluff" sites
[05:33] <wj32> HelPmEe: im not familiar with grep
[05:33] <Gigi> arac7000 I mean from banshee
[05:34] <HelPmEe> wj32: talking about cut
[05:34] <Gigi> I have the files in that library
[05:34] <buggie> vox754: i've been there... and it's still not doin' much for my broadcome 4318 woes... but I do thank you so much for the referral
[05:34] <kungfugoat> buggie: that's why my organization chose windows 2003 server for the machines that we just bought
[05:34] <orac7000> gigi: sorry can't help with banshee
[05:34] <wj32> HelPmEe: not familiar with cut as well
[05:34] <sgtmattbaker> wj32: I am using XP.. so is that an issue
[05:34] <wj32> sgtmattbaker: no
[05:34] <Gigi> ok.  Thanks :)
[05:34] <buggie> kungfugoat: right on... i'm trying to get the country club i work for to go "all linux"..
[05:34] <Gigi>  I will try yamipod
[05:34] <jrib> HelPmEe: what do you mean when you say "columns"?
[05:34] <vox754> buggie, tons of people have used ndiswrapper successfully with 4318, I think
[05:34] <buggie> kungfugoat: they're actually considering it...
[05:34] <ardchoille> !offtopic
[05:34] <kungfugoat> buggie: that would be great
[05:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:35] <Shaba1> Hello gues
[05:35] <Pelo> Gigi,  the app to replace itune in linux is called gtkpod  you can install it from synaptic
[05:35] <sgtmattbaker> wj32: not that I am saying you do not know what you are talking about but is there somewhere where I could see that part of the EULA to make sure?
[05:35] <kungfugoat> we're stuck with a slow VPN + remote desktop solution, instead of something simple
[05:35] <buggie> vox754: yes, i've read SOOOOO many articles in the forums and elsewhere with their success; sadly, i can't bask in their glory
[05:35] <kungfugoat> like SSH or NX server
[05:35] <buggie> vox754: i've tried many a time without success
[05:35] <ravalox> Has anyone here managed to get apache running php locally running on Ubuntu?
[05:35] <ben_x3124> Gigi, amarok, songbird, and rhythmbox are also great
[05:35] <Gigi> Pelo I have gtkpod I need to pass files from a cd to the ipod
[05:35] <wj32> sgtmattbaker: all I know is that XP doesn't have VM restrictions but Vista does.
[05:35] <ardchoille> ravalox: I have
[05:36] <macd> ravalox, dapper has a fully working LAMP stack
[05:36] <ravalox> what incantation do I have to recite
[05:36] <ardchoille> !lamp | ravalox
[05:36] <ubotu> ravalox: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:36] <buggie> vox754: i gained a lot of hope with teh release of the restricted drivers  manager, and yet the only thing it recognizes is my ATI card...
[05:36] <ravalox> I've installed all the packages taht are relevant
[05:36] <sgtmattbaker> wj32: but I already have XP installed on the HDD, I want to install it again as a virtual machine
[05:36] <ravalox> I have tried php5 and php4
[05:36] <ravalox> none of that works
[05:36] <vox754> !offtopic | sgtmattbaker
[05:36] <macd> ravalox, did you make the necc. changes in apache2.conf?
[05:36] <jrib> HelPmEe: -c isn't "columns"
[05:36] <ubotu> sgtmattbaker: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:36] <ravalox> apache tries to hand off a .phtml file to me
[05:36] <ardchoille> ravalox: Did you read the warning about installing php5 and php4?
[05:37] <Pelo> Gigi,  I don'T know how gtkpod works but there should be an abvious command to load tothe ipod,  and I suppose you just load your cd as a library or something
[05:37] <Gigi> Pelo nop
[05:37] <ravalox> I have tried most every variation; I started with five then resorted to 4
[05:37] <Gigi> I been browsing hours
[05:37] <colbert> How do I download flash movies like on Youtube ?
[05:37] <ravalox> what can I install to get this working?
[05:37] <BrMiHi08> this is making me mad...
[05:38] <BrMiHi08> ubuntu 6.06 works with my wireless, but not 7.04
[05:38] <eck> colbert: there are some firefox extensions to do that
[05:38] <ardchoille> ravalox: All I did was read and follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  and my php works great in Ubuntu
[05:38] <eck> BrMiHi08: see if you can connect using iwconfig
[05:39] <BrMiHi08> alright I will try that when I switch over
[05:39] <Pelo> BrMiHi08,  for feisty questions try asking in #ubuntu+1
[05:40] <BrMiHi08> Pelo- sorry I joined the wrong one
[05:40] <gobbles414> wj32: I am able to insert special characters now using control+shift+u
[05:40] <owh> pyrak: Hmm, I don't know what to tell you. I would add a support request in launchpad and see what gives.
[05:40] <Sean> eck: I think I did it right, not sure. I will reboot and test it ;)
[05:40] <Pelo> BrMiHi08,   no problem  the ppl there use feisty they are better equiped to answer you that is all
[05:40] <buggie> brb
[05:40] <eck> Sean: you don't need to reboot, just restart sshd
[05:40] <Sean> eck: I haven't rebooted in ages lol
[05:41] <eck> Sean: actually you don't even need to restart sshd...
[05:41] <Sean> eck: I feel more comfortable anyway :)
[05:42] <gobbles414> but the numbers from windows make different symbols in linux
[05:42] <pyrak> owh, uh, whats launchpad?
[05:42] <kid6> how can I see what is using port 3000?
[05:42] <ravalox> This doesn't work for me
[05:42] <kungfugoat> kid6: netstat
[05:43] <Juancab> eck: I'm about to partition it now, how do I do a new partition?
[05:43] <kungfugoat> kid6: try netstat -tap
[05:43] <owh> pyrak: Visit launchpad.net and click on Answers.
[05:43] <eck> Juancab: if you can, use gparted
[05:44] <eck> kid6: also lsof
[05:44] <pirothezero> anyone know of a resource thats good in file system descriptions pros and cons for massive media files 350meg + each up to 8-15gig each?
[05:44] <owh> Hmm, cannot seem to find where to log a request in launchpad anymore.
[05:44] <Juancab> eck: I was going to use the CD; where's gparted?
[05:45] <macd> pirothezero, kinda offtopic but XFS is what you want.
[05:45] <eck> pirothezero: you should use xfs (if the filesystem is reallythe bottleneck)
[05:45] <Sean> eck: :( I guess I didn't. I added the public file to my .ssh in my user folder on Windows
[05:45] <eck> Juancab: i think system > administration
[05:45] <pirothezero> hmmmm
[05:45] <eck> it is called gnome partition editor
[05:45] <pirothezero> alright thanks
[05:45] <Sean> eck: private*
[05:45] <Sean> eck: and put the public key on .ssh/authorized_keys
[05:45] <Sean> :|
[05:45] <owh> pyrak: I'm just trying to locate the link for you, launchpad was redesigned recently :)
[05:46] <macd> owh, for friendly urls ;P
[05:46] <arooni> how can run /usr/script/foo .... every hour on the hour?
[05:46] <eck> Sean: you need both of the keys on the client you are sitting at, and the public key needs to be a line in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote host
[05:46] <owh> macd: :-)
[05:46] <Sean> eck: It is
[05:47] <sorcerer> umm how can i study about linux .. or ubuntu that i have i used to be with windows ,?
[05:47] <Juancab> eck: what do i do now, I see my two partitions, but locked
[05:47] <eck> Juancab: they need to be unmounted
[05:47] <truvisionary> #cedega
[05:47] <Juancab> eck: both of them?
[05:47] <eck> Juancab: use the umount command
[05:47] <eck> Juancab: whatever you want to resize
[05:48] <firefly2442> sorcerer, there are some books about Ubuntu that are good for beginners, check your local library
[05:48] <Sean> eck: What about the private key? PuTTY I don't think is even looking at it.
[05:48] <sorcerer> you mean .. like .. in my college library ?
[05:48] <firefly2442> sorcerer, I assume you are asking about basic usage? email, internet, etc?
[05:48] <sorcerer> well i kinda figured that out
[05:49] <truvisionary> how do you make it so the the changes made to gconf actually stay there?
[05:49] <eck> Sean: oh, with putty you need to convert it into the putty format i think
[05:49] <firefly2442> sorcerer, oh sorry, I misunderstood your question
[05:49] <owh> Well, that was intuitive :) pyrak, in the Box marked "One Project" typy "cupsys" and press Enter, then select Ask a Question from the menu on the left.
[05:49] <Sean> eck: ... How?
[05:49] <pirothezero> what does it mean if in gparted some filesystems are greyed out? trying to format a 286 gig to be xfs
[05:49] <eck> Sean: and then you need to tell it where the key is
[05:49] <Pelo> sorcerer,  to get you started,  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84
[05:49] <sorcerer> but to know the system coz soo many stuff to instal i just pasted the stuff in the termial kinda dontknow what i was doing
[05:49] <owh> s/typy/type/
[05:49] <macd> eck, yeah putty has the tool bundled todo so.
[05:49] <HelPmEe> How can i delete a blank line with awk
[05:49] <eck> Sean: http://www.linux-sxs.org/networking/openssh.putty.html
[05:50] <truvisionary> how do you make it so the the changes made to gconf actually stay there?
[05:50] <Pelo> pirothezero, means that they are not available for use to format
[05:50] <vox754> sorcerer, Pelo http://reachbeyondgrasp.blogspot.com/2007/04/interactive-linux-command-line-tutorial.html check this out
[05:50] <zero88> anyone know how to connect to putty from ssh?
[05:50] <sorcerer> Pelo:  thanx mate ill look into it
[05:50] <Juancab> eck: I should resize the first partition (/), but it doesn't let me. I've unmounted it, and now I did the same with the other, but still can't
[05:50] <pirothezero> Pelo: sorry let me repharse, why are they not available and what cna i do to make them available
[05:50] <eck> zero88: connect _to_ putty? you need to connect to an ssh daeomn
[05:50] <owh> zero88: I didn't think putty was an ssh server, but I might be wrong.
[05:51] <eck> afaik putty is just an ssh client
[05:51] <Pelo> pirothezero,  not sure,  possibly gparted only reads them can't make them
[05:51] <Xenocide> hey guys, im having problems with an ITE ata raid controller and im only getting 3mb/s buffered disk reads
[05:51] <pppd2007> how to get online (56k) after install dapper drake from de live cd ? some can help-me?
[05:51] <zero88> ekc owh ya i believe it is
[05:51] <pirothezero> hmm good point ill go to cli
[05:51] <Dasnipa`> eck, its does telnet and one other standard too
[05:51] <Dasnipa`> but yeah
[05:51] <eck> Juancab: you need to have extra space available
[05:51] <sorcerer> cheers guys
[05:51] <eck> well, it is still just a client :-)
[05:51] <owh> zero88: Then the help should be able to tell you I would have thought.
[05:52] <zero88> or is there another way to remote acces from linux to windows?
[05:52] <Pelo> vox754,  sorcerer  you may also enjoy this  http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[05:52] <Juancab> eck: How's that. I have plenty of space in the /home partition?
[05:52] <owh> pyrak: You're on your own. I need to go. Good luck.
[05:52] <zero88> owh those man pages are always so complicated and dont have basic samples
[05:52] <eck> Juancab: so first resize /home to make it smaller
[05:52] <densin> hi all
[05:52] <gobbles414> wj32: thanks for getting me started with accents...:-P
[05:53] <eck> zero88: reading the man pages is kind of an art... once you get good at it though, you won't know how you lived without them
[05:53] <owh> zero88: Man pages for putty? Are we talking about the same software? The putty I know runs under Windows, no man pages around. I need to go, but Google Is Your Friend :)
[05:53] <Pelo> pppd2007,   try looking in the forum for a dailup howto
[05:53] <densin> I change ethernet card , but seem ubuntu not autodectect it.  any command to process?
[05:53] <eck> zero88: i think there is a port of openssh to windows that you can use to log in to a cygwin environment
[05:53] <pyrak> owh, ty
[05:53] <arooni> how would i run something every hour of everyday forever: 0 * 0 0 0 /big/dom/xdomain/cgi-bin/scriptname.cgi
[05:54] <zero88> eck do i need cygwin running on windows? and using openssh is the command ssh ?
[05:54] <Pelo> arooni,  look into cron ,  don'T know to work it but that's what you use to do stuff like that
[05:54] <archangelpetro> if i kill xorg will all applications currently running in X end?
[05:54] <eck> zero88: you just need an ssh daemon
[05:54] <truvisionary> how do you make it so the the changes made to gconf actually stay there?
[05:54] <eck> it doesn't matter much which one you use
[05:55] <zero88> eck ok
[05:55] <Pelo> archangelpetro,  most likely
[05:55] <archangelpetro> crap
[05:55] <zero88> eck whats the basic connect command?
[05:55] <macd> densin, you need to 'lspci' to find out which card it is, than paste that in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:55] <eck> zero88: ssh user@host
[05:55] <archangelpetro> cuz xorg has suddenly started taking up 35%of my RAM
[05:55] <d00d> how can i check the verison of a program in apt
[05:55] <archangelpetro> and i'm running a very important program, generating results that'll take another 10hrs to finish
[05:55] <zero88> eck do i need to add a user to putty? i have added a key
[05:55] <buggie> so yeah, how does one use an external monitor with a notebook computer with Ubuntu?
[05:56] <densin> macd: AMD 79c970 [ PCnet32 LANC]  rev 10
[05:56] <buggie> Hobbsee: gosh, your nick looks SOOOO familiar
[05:56] <pirothezero> anyone know the command for xfs in fdisk ?
[05:56] <pirothezero> to pick i t
[05:57] <acidtabs> has anyone installed ufo: alien invasion?? know how and were to put the libjackasyn-0.13 folder too?
[05:57] <zero88> eck i got a error  ssh: connect to host 192.16.0.0 port 22: No route to host
[05:57] <buggie> Hobbsee: I used to come in a linner... ring a bell?
[05:57] <densin> macd: I change ethernet , may be ubuntu not autodetect as FC does
[05:57] <vox754> d00d, start by reading "aptitude show <name>" lists some info   also read "man aptitude" "man apt-get" and "man apt-cache" surely the answer is there
[05:57] <Pelo> pirothezero,  man fdisk
[05:57] <Juancab> eck: Ok, now I have one "unallocated" space
[05:57] <macd> densin, 'sudo modprobe pcnet32'
[05:58] <sgtmattbaker> can ntfsclone correctly backup a Windows partition as an image?
[05:58] <densin> macd: that no permananly ,I must do manual any time?
[05:58] <Juancab> eck: I've reduced /home 14G
[05:58] <d00d> vox754, thanks
[05:58] <Hobbsee> buggie: hm?
[05:58] <macd> densin, you need to add it to /etc/modules
[05:58] <d00d> i just installed the new 7.06
[05:58] <macd> densin, just add pcnet32 to the bottom
[05:58] <Mr_Giraffe> my fonts look either really blurry (antialiased) or jagged and horrible (aliased) in ubuntu.  is there any way to fix it?
[05:59] <vox754> d00d, ?
[05:59] <d00d> 7.04*
[05:59] <Gigi> darn I can pass the songs from a CD to the iPod
[05:59] <d00d> Feisty Fawn
[05:59] <Gigi> darn I can't pass the songs from a CD to the iPod
[05:59] <vox754> !repeat > Gigi
[05:59] <orangey> Hey all!
[05:59] <Mr_Giraffe> !freetype
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freetype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <Hobbsee> d00d: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[05:59] <Mr_Giraffe> !bytecode
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bytecode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <densin> macd: ubuntu no  auto detect on boot time ? FC can does it well
[05:59] <HelPmEe> how can i print fields in a file but i dont want awk to show empty lines
[05:59] <densin> macd: BTW, thank you very much
[05:59] <orangey> I'm having a problem here.. When I am trying to compile a kernel package which is older (-10), I get "Compatibility levels before 4 are deprecated"
[06:00] <orangey> Any ideas how I could beat that?
[06:00] <orbin> Mr_Giraffe: is this an lcd?
[06:00] <Mr_Giraffe> orbin, yeah.
[06:00] <Mr_Giraffe> and i'm using subpixel rendering because it's the least blurry...but it's still blurry.
[06:00] <orbin> Mr_Giraffe: ah, so you know about the font rendering settings.
[06:01] <Mr_Giraffe> right, i've been trying really hard to get this thing fixed.
[06:01] <Mr_Giraffe> do you know anything about enabling the bytecode interpreter?
[06:02] <orbin> Mr_Giraffe: no. sorry.
[06:03] <vox754> HelPmEe, maybe here http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[06:03] <`Matir> I'm trying to boot the Ubuntu 6.10 x86 LiveCD and it hangs at "squashfs: version 3.0 (2006/03/15) Phillip Lougher".  Previous messages from the kernel show nothing unusual (just USB device enumeration)
[06:03] <Pelo> Mr_Giraffe,  you may find this enlightening  http://avi.alkalay.net/linux/docs/font-howto/Font.html#desktop
[06:03] <Gigi> Dumb iPod - No way :(
[06:03] <two_ofa_kind6873> hi peeps
[06:03] <bulmer> anyone using VMware and have an xp as the guest OS? i cant print from the guest OS, okay on the ubuntu host though..any tips?
[06:05] <Gigi> Does someone have an iPoD an able to take the songs from a CD to the iPoD
[06:05] <Pelo> bulmer,  #vmware
[06:06] <vox754> Gigi, pretty sure there is a way to rip the music to the PC and then to the iPod, mp3 ogg or whatever you want
[06:06] <bulmer> been there
[06:06] <eck> Juancab: now you can make a new partition or extend /, depending on where the space is
[06:06] <vox754> !rip
[06:06] <ubotu> For information about the Sound Juicer ripping application see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping. To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar
[06:06] <Pelo> Gigi,  is that cd a music cd or a mp3 cd ?
[06:06] <Gigi> vox754 how I send an ogg file to the iPoD. It does not want it!!!!
[06:06] <Gigi> it is an audio Cd
[06:06] <Gigi> track
[06:06] <Kikkoman> If I used the command sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, does that mean I am running Kubuntu?
[06:06] <Kikkoman> Or am I just running the KDE?
[06:07] <Juancab> eck: I have the / partition first, then the /home, then the new space, then the swap
[06:07] <Pelo> Gigi,  you need to rip it first and then convert it to a format your ipod can use  ,try using soundjuicer for the ripping and soundconverter for the converstion
[06:07] <pirothezero> i get command not found when i do mkfs.xfs am i missing something?
[06:07] <Sean> YES
[06:07] <eck> Juancab: then you need to make a new partition
[06:07] <Sean> BOOH YEAH
[06:07] <Sean> eck & You all RULE
[06:07] <Sean> I did it :D
[06:07] <eck> Sean: congrats :-)
[06:07] <sgtmattbaker> can I download a video from a site like gamespot using wget?
[06:07] <Sean> eck: Thanks.. I will come back here a lot to help! :D
[06:07] <Gigi> Pelo the sound thing does not work.  It makes ogg files... and I can't send them to the iPoD... i tried the mp3 with juicer but does wrong the job
[06:08] <Sean> eck: You guys rock! WOOT! :D
[06:08] <Sean> Got to go for now
[06:08] <Gigi> Very bad apple... the had to make an itunes for Linux !
[06:08] <Juancab> eck: Should I make it primary or extended?
[06:08] <Sean> I'll cya guys!
[06:08] <bulmer> pirothezero: go see if /sbin/mkfs.xfs is there
[06:08] <Pelo> Kikkoman,  I beileve you loaded every part of kubuntu that was not shared with ubuntu-gnome
[06:08] <eck> Juancab: it doesn't matter
[06:08] <vox754> eck, what was that? ssh?
[06:08] <Kikkoman> Pelo: So that means I am running Kubuntu, right?
[06:09] <eck> vox754: yeah
[06:09] <Pelo> Gigi,   I gave you a two step process ,  first rip into ogg then convert the ogg into something else,   with soundconverter,  please read all the way through
[06:09] <Kikkoman> Pelo: And therefore should ask support in #kubuntu
[06:09] <Pelo> Kikkoman,  probably
[06:09] <pirothezero> bulmer, if its not?
[06:09] <Gigi> thanks pelo
[06:09] <dxdemetriou> is there an option to start any program full screen and on top?
[06:09] <Juancab> eck: ext3?
[06:09] <eck> Juancab: yes
[06:09] <eck> vox754: pam was all messed up and wasn't authenticating ssh
[06:10] <bulmer> pirothezero: well maybe it does not support it the file system so its not there..only a guess
[06:10] <Pelo> dxdemetriou,  you can probably make a litle rule using  devilspie,  it's in synaptic
[06:10] <headphase> does anyone know how to access files from the home partition from windows?
[06:10] <vox754> Gigi, rip the music to .wav and then I'm sure there is a way to get it into the iPod
[06:10] <Pelo> headphase,  try reprhasing that question
[06:11] <Kikkoman> :P Ok #kubuntu isn't helping so, How would I open ports 6667, 7000, and 50000? Using the KDE
[06:12] <vox754> headphase, if the home partition is ext3 you will need a driver for ext2 and ext3 in Windows
[06:12] <headphase> when running windows xp, can you access files located in the home partition in ubuntu?
[06:12] <Pelo> Kikkoman,  find the kde iptable frontend, install it and use that  , don'T ask me where and how I have no clue
[06:12] <Juancab> eck: should I press Aply now? I'm sorry I bug you
[06:12] <wj32> headphase: do you use ext3?
[06:12] <dxdemetriou> Pelo, isn't there a command for gnome to give initially the values that you can do? thanks for help, I'll give a try
[06:13] <Pelo> headphase,  you would need to install a pcs of software that reads ext3 file system
[06:13] <headphase> wj32: yes
[06:13] <wj32> !ext3 | headphase
[06:13] <ubotu> headphase: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[06:13] <`Matir> this is odd... booting the edgy livecd, i get a message that i THINK reads "Unable to handle kernel paging request", except several characters are corrupted.
[06:13] <vox754> Kikkoman, you can ask questions everywhere as long as it is related to Linux, for specific information on KDE you may well ask there. A lot of people use KDE and nevertheless they roam here always.
[06:13] <Pelo> dxdemetriou,  I don't know of one but I am fairly noobish
[06:13] <Kikkoman> Ok
[06:14] <zero88> how do you mount Cygwin to the harddrive?
[06:14] <legos>      yes..... i gots vid and sound working in vmware runnin winxp....
[06:14] <vox754> Pelo, what action did you use? your nickname appeared different a few lines before
[06:14] <Kikkoman> Using this new Kubuntu, how do I install access to my NTFS Hard drive? It was working in Ubuntu.
[06:14] <Pelo> vox754,  this is regular
[06:14] <eck> Juancab: yeah
[06:15] <vox754> Pelo, notice doesn't need registering?
[06:15] <drew> Kikkoman: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[06:15] <headphase> wj32: that was easy
[06:15] <Pelo> vox754,  I donT' think so , but I'm registered, I can'T tell
[06:15] <drew> Kikkoman: that worked for me.
[06:15] <Kikkoman> Drew: Thanks
[06:16] <darwin> What is good recovery/partitioning live cd?
[06:17] <jasin> Hi
[06:17] <jasin> I got wpa working in ubuntu :)
[06:17] <peanutb> does anyone know where mysql stores its data on ubuntu?
[06:17] <LaNCeloT_RW> guys, take a look
[06:17] <LaNCeloT_RW> gimp: error while loading shared libraries: libart_lgpl_2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:17] <LaNCeloT_RW> how do I fix that?
[06:17] <Juancab> darwin: good for what?
[06:18] <Pelo> LaNCeloT_RW,  try searching for that error msg in the forum
[06:18] <jasin> lancelot, sounds like that library is corrupt or missing.
[06:18] <darwin> Juancab: General Purpose recovery, partitioning, diagnostics and such
[06:19] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  but in which package is that? 'cause i've already installed Libar2
[06:19] <orbin> darwin: knoppix gets name-dropped a lot
[06:19] <LaNCeloT_RW> Libart2*
[06:19] <jasin> lancelot, is your gimp an older version?
[06:19] <Pelo> darwin,  do a search on digg,  there was something like that not so long ago last week or the week before
[06:19] <HelPmEe> how to change every letters in capital letters  in a file
[06:19] <Gigi> I give up.... There is no way
[06:19] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  i just removed it and installed again using apt-get
[06:19] <LaNCeloT_RW> and still receiving the error msg
[06:19] <Gigi> I installed the darn plug in for mp3 and no way
[06:19] <jasin> lancrlot, you probably messed it up even further doing that.
[06:19] <Juancab> eck: is this a long process?
[06:19] <darwin> There's a lot of options, so I was just looking for a reccomendation
[06:19] <Gigi> and I can't send the ogg file to the iPo
[06:20] <nvidhive> an alternative to the seemingly down security repos?
[06:20] <nvidhive> or a forum thread link?
[06:20] <eck> Juancab: it depends how much data there is to move around
[06:20] <Pelo> Gigi,   convert the ogg file to m4a using  soundconverter or to wav
[06:20] <nvidhive> I'm sure I am not the only one
[06:20] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  do you know in which package is that library in?
[06:20] <eck> Juancab: the more space you were removing from the partition, the longer it takes to resize it
[06:21] <Pelo> g'night folks
[06:21] <biotrox> hello
[06:21] <biotrox> need to ask something about .dmrc
[06:21] <Juancab> eck: how is that? what data?
[06:21] <truvisionary> how do you make it so the the changes made to gconf actually stay there?
[06:21] <biotrox> i find that when i start ubuntu it has erros on it
[06:22] <biotrox> .dmrc error
[06:22] <Gigi> I'll extract it to wav from the juicer and let's see if it want it
[06:22] <biotrox> any solution..?
[06:22] <nvidhive> is noone else having problems with fetching from the security repos via apt-get?
[06:22] <nvidhive> or wget for that matter
[06:22] <eck> Juancab: when the partition is resized, all the data that is at the end of the partition needs to be moved to the beginning
[06:24] <orbin> truvisionary: what are you changing?  i've found them to save ok.
[06:24] <Juancab> eck: Oh, thank you for explaining. I'm really greatful for your help.  It is taking long time.
[06:24] <biotrox> hello.. i have error in my ubuntu (it say that $HOME/.dmrc no such file
[06:25] <biotrox> i already try mkdir .dmrc
[06:25] <biotrox> and put chmod 644 .dmrc
[06:25] <biotrox> but it didn't work
[06:25] <biotrox> anybody can help?
[06:26] <eck> Juancab: if you have many GB of data it is typical
[06:26] <nvidhive> biotrox: have you tried this thread?  http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-110422.html
[06:26] <kupesoft> nvidhive: Wait five minutes
[06:27] <nvidhive> kupesoft: thank you very much for responding
[06:27] <kupesoft> nvidhive: Are the repos back up?
[06:27] <densin> macd: ok I see now it already load module , but /etc/iftab prevent to use as eth0
[06:27] <nvidhive> biotrox: I know you tried the chmod.. but the "In /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf change the RelaxPermissions=0 to RelaxPermissions=1." that hpol systems
[06:27] <nvidhive> kupesoft: I will check again now
[06:27] <Juancab> eck: but i will have just one new partition, to allocate the /var I guess, but what about the /usr?
[06:28] <jasin> lancelot_rw, That library is located in /usr/lib/ and you can get the latest version of it here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libs/libart-2.0-2
[06:29] <phr0ze> My video files will not play with default player. I installed VLC but it is not the default. How can I properly make it the default?
[06:29] <biotrox> nvidhive | yes i've tried that
[06:29] <nvidhive> kupesoft: indeed they are, thank you for responding once again
[06:29] <biotrox> nvidhive | no use
[06:29] <jasin> that package is for edgy btw.
[06:29] <konam_> someone knows a command to rip a dvd, i used to know one
[06:30] <eck> Juancab: you can move only one of the directories -- you should move the one that you ancticipate to take up more space
[06:30] <LaNCeloT_RW> phr0ze:  man, right click on the file, then, open with .. Other Programa .. then select VLC, and then check the button, Open always with VLC .. (something like that)
[06:30] <eck> Juancab: actually you can move more than one if you use lvm, but it is more complicated
[06:30] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  i'll try to reinstall libart-2.0.2
[06:30] <macd> densin, you need to change iftab eth0 to your new network cards MAC.
[06:30] <Chadarius> phr0ze: You can change the default by right clicking on it and choosing open with... or something like that then make VLC the default
[06:30] <eck> Juancab: /usr will stay at about the same size that it is currently at, /var is more likely to grow
[06:31] <James> hi
[06:31] <densin> macd: any command to change hostname ?
[06:31] <nvidhive> biotrox: what are the permissions on the file.. owner and group
[06:31] <tuxmaniac> densin, sudo vi /etc/hostname
[06:31] <tuxmaniac> change it there
[06:31] <phr0ze> Lancelot_rw: I tried that, since that is what I do in windows. However I did not see an option to always open. And VLC does not properly get passed the video file. VLC launches but it has no video to play.
[06:31] <jasin> lancelot, make sure you reinstall all the dependencies as well if you do.
[06:31] <macd> densin, edit  /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[06:31] <densin> tuxmaniac: only manual way?!
[06:32] <tuxmaniac> densin, its easy
[06:32] <Chadarius> phr0ze: You using KDE or gnome? If its KDE you can choose properties instead of Open With... and choose the edit file type button
[06:32] <phr0ze> gnome. std edgy install
[06:32] <Chadarius> phr0ze: Should be similar in Gnome
[06:33] <jasin> I just updated my kernel today. System runs beautifully!
[06:33] <LaNCeloT_RW> phr0ze:  well dude, which player do u want to use, once VLC is not the right one? (it doesnt show video)
[06:33] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  Setting up libart2 (1.4.2-32) ...
[06:33] <LaNCeloT_RW> felipe@lancelot-ubuntu:~$ gimp
[06:33] <LaNCeloT_RW> gimp: error while loading shared libraries: libart_lgpl_2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:34] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  after remove and install libart2 with apt-get im still receiving the error msg
[06:34] <jasin> LaNcelot, i dont know which gimp you is runing but your version of gimp may require an older libart2.
[06:34] <aldin> hi, cant connect on FTP to public IP... 500 Illegal PORT command
[06:34] <aldin> ftp: bind: Address already in use http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15732/ but i can connect it from localhost
[06:34] <jasin> lancelot, keep that in mind.
[06:34] <lwizardl> anyone know what causes this error mysqladmin: connect to server at 'server.domain.tld' failed
[06:34] <lwizardl> error: 'Host 'server.domain.tld' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server'
[06:35] <phr0ze> Lancelot_rw: I prefer VLC. I just tried to set it in the properties to play. That seems to take the setting to VLC as default. But strange enough it still opens with movie player. I opened properties again and it still says its VLC.
[06:35] <Bales> Ubuntu's not recognizing my USB flash drive....Any ideas on what I can do?
[06:36] <phr0ze> Lancelot_rw. I'm open to other player recommendations. I want to play MP4 and WMV.
[06:36] <jasin> I prefer vlc myself.
[06:36] <biotrox> nvidhive | i found the solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371052
[06:36] <jasin> Bales, try mounting it.
[06:36] <biotrox> bales | what the /var/log/messages says..?
[06:37] <Bales> I dont know what that means
[06:37] <jasin> I believe thumb drives are mounted with mount -t vfat /dev/sda1
[06:37] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  do you know what can be happening over here? once i've already installed libart2 using apt-get ?
[06:38] <jasin> dont take my word on that tho
[06:38] <LaNCeloT_RW> phr0ze:  man, i use Windows Media Player to run .wmv here.. because my system is 64Bit, and i didnt find 64-bit codec for that video extension
[06:38] <LaNCeloT_RW> so, i cant help you on doing that... =/
[06:38] <eck> Juancab: once you remove /var you will have plenty of space on / for /usr, right?
[06:39] <biotrox> anyone tried feisty..?
[06:39] <jasin> LaNCelot_rw, its either corrupt, the wrong version, or missing a dependency.
[06:39] <Mr_Giraffe> so i've tried all the stuff people have suggested in here regarding fonts (using better-hinted ones, different rendering choices, etc.) but nothing's worked.
[06:40] <lwizardl> .
[06:40] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  so, damm it.. maybe it could be a bug at Ubuntu sources?
[06:40] <Mr_Giraffe> my fonts are rather blurry (or jagged with aliasing), and someone who uses fedora suggested enabling the bytecode interpreter.  is that possible to do in ubuntu, and if so...how?
[06:40] <jasin> LaNceLot, doubt it, its most likely something you did.
[06:41] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  can u send me your libart_lgpl_2.so.2 ??
[06:41] <Juancab> eck: I hope so. Didn't you see this post: http://arun-prabha.com/wdpress/?p=301
[06:41] <madman91> hello all
[06:41] <Nubbie> mr_giraffe: in font dialog. enable smooth text.
[06:41] <jasin> LaNcelot, i'm on a laptop, so no.
[06:41] <Mr_Giraffe> Nubbie, that just makes it blurry.
[06:41] <madman91> can one fresh install feisty.... and import /home /etc to the new install.. and how would one go about doing so?
[06:41] <jasin> laNcelot, besides, I dont use gimp.
[06:41] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  ok, i'll search for that..
[06:42] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  which one do u use?
[06:42] <Mr_Giraffe> i know people have gotten truetype fonts to render well on other distros, i've seen it.
[06:43] <Nubbie> madman91: don't format your /home partition when installing feisty.
[06:43] <lwizardl> anyone here used the perfect server setup guide on howtoforge?
[06:43] <drew> is there a way to get nicer resolution in tty0, tty1, etc. ?
[06:43] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone here can send me the file: "libart_lgpl_2.so.2 "  ?
[06:43] <Nubbie> madman91: and make sure it mounts as /home, not /dev/hd##
[06:44] <madman91> Nubbie: and how do i import /etc ?
[06:44] <jasin> laNcelot,  i dont do computer graphics work.
[06:44] <Shaddox> Hello everyone
[06:44] <Mr_Giraffe> ello.
[06:44] <Shaddox> I'm having a small problem with my new Ubuntu 7.04 [Daily Live-Today's Build] 
[06:44] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  ok, thanks!
[06:45] <Shaddox> I can't seem to get my wireless connected, but I'm also brand new to Unix systems, have been using Windows till 4 days ago. ^^
[06:45] <jasin> laNcelot,  anytime I had a requirement to edit an image or piece of art work I've always used photoshop in windows.
[06:45] <Nubbie> madman91: you would want do do that why???
[06:46] <jasin> lancelot, and thats rare.
[06:46] <Nubbie> madman91: just copy the files you REALLY need to keep.
[06:46] <madman91> Nubbie: well.. mostly /etc/dhcxxxx/dhclient.conf
[06:46] <madman91> or something
[06:46] <Nubbie> madman91: so copy that, and only that.
[06:47] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  i have photoshop on my Ubuntu =)
[06:47] <Nubbie> madman91: overwriting all of feisty's config files with edgy/dapper ones will break your system.
[06:47] <LaNCeloT_RW> guys, anyone here can send me the file: "libart_lgpl_2.so.2 "  ?
[06:47] <madman91> LaNCeloT_RW: cs3 cs2 7 6 5 ?
[06:47] <Shaddox> Can someone help me fix my wireless, and get Photoshop set up on here?
[06:47] <madman91> Nubbie: sounds good.. thanks
[06:47] <LaNCeloT_RW> madman91:  7
[06:47] <alexnb185> hey guys i need help getting the ndiswrapper to work
[06:47] <jasin> laNCelot, anytime you uninstall and reinstall something always do a cold boot. I know its not required in linux but its still good insurance.
[06:47] <Mr_Giraffe> Shaddox, can't help you with photoshop, but maybe i can with the other stuff.
[06:47] <Mr_Giraffe> alexnb185 and Shaddox, what cards are you using?
[06:48] <jasin> laNcelot, then just use that :)
[06:48] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  ok, i'll try to reboot here after trying to remove and install again "Libart2"
[06:48] <Nubbie> shaddox: photoshop refuses to release their products for linux. so you'll have to adjust to a program called "the gimp" which installed by default, and runs just as well as photoshop, albeit differently.
[06:48] <Shaddox> Mr_Giraffe: I have a Broadcom 43xx card, ubuntu detects it. However, I can't seem to get a connection or detect networks?
[06:48] <Shaddox> Ah
[06:48] <Shaddox> Well, I used to use Gimp
[06:48] <Shaddox> Before I used PS
[06:48] <Nubbie> shaddox: then you're fine.
[06:48] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  yes, but it seems to be a bug, im trying to write on a image, but the smallest font appears the biggest one... i dont know why =/
[06:48] <alexnb185> uh I have a few options.. they are.. zyxel g-200 ..... a dlink wua-1340 .. a dlink g510 and a belkin.. something
[06:49] <Mr_Giraffe> Shaddox, is it coming up as a connection device?
[06:49] <jasin> laNcelot, instalking and reinstalling often corupts files, always best to delte manualy the files you suspect are corrupt before installing them again.
[06:49] <Nubbie> shaddox: the biggest thing is: don't get hooked on proprietary software, and you'll never have to worry about switching EVER.
[06:49] <Mr_Giraffe> and Shaddox, is it a belkin F5D7050?
[06:49] <Shaddox> Eh, I didn't install it by choice
[06:49] <Shaddox> I don't know
[06:49] <Shaddox> It's whatever came with my laptop
[06:49] <Mr_Giraffe> er...sorry, i meant alexnb185 .
[06:49] <LaNCeloT_RW> Nubbie:  Shaddox : try using PhotoShop on linux using CrossOver
[06:49] <Nubbie> shaddox: do lspci.
[06:49] <alexnb185> oh i think it is a f5d7000
[06:49] <kungfugoat> Nubbie: I totally agree with not getting hooked on proprietary software
[06:50] <Shaddox> 03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[06:50] <Shaddox> 03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[06:50] <Shaddox> Erm
[06:50] <drew> is there a way to get nicer resolution in ttys0, ttys1, etc. ?
[06:50] <Nubbie> !paste > shaddox
[06:50] <Shaddox> i was told to join #ubuntu+`
[06:50] <kungfugoat> I know it might hurt, but I've finally agreed to not give in to proprietary software any longer
[06:50] <jasin> laNcelot, if you suspect its just a bug then you could do a search or post on launchpad.
[06:50] <Shaddox> +1*
[06:50] <jasin> lancelot, don't sound like a bug to me though, sounds like something is missing or corrupted.
[06:50] <madman91> LaNCeloT_RW: i run cs3 on my virtual windows
[06:51] <kungfugoat> I won't buy any hardware that comes with proprietary software
[06:51] <Shaddox> eh, i didn't buy it myself
[06:51] <Nubbie> shaddox: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) || check and see with google if thats supported by linux. if not, you may have to dabble in with some wrapper software to get it working in linux.
[06:51] <LaNCeloT_RW> madman91:  here i dont use Virtual Machines.. i use CrossOver, thats enough and good for me =)
[06:51] <madman91> LaNCeloT_RW: i know.. ize just sayin
[06:52] <Nubbie> but then again, crossxoffice is not free.
[06:52] <Nubbie> or necessary.
[06:52] <alexnb185> giraffe?
[06:52] <LaNCeloT_RW> jasin:  i found 2 files called libart_lgpl_2.so.2 on the same dir... thats weird
[06:52] <Mr_Giraffe> oh, sorry.
[06:52] <Mr_Giraffe> i haven't used an f5d7000...
[06:53] <Shaddox> Nubbie: Thanks a lot, there's a guide at the Ubuntu site about my exact problem on my exact card!
[06:53] <alexnb185> well i have 4 choices
[06:53] <Shaddox> Nubbie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 Is that right?
[06:53] <jasin> Lancelot, their probably different versions of the same file or you are not seeing something in the file name thats different from the other.
[06:53] <alexnb185> i just need help getting the ndiswrapper to work.. i have la the cds
[06:53] <Mr_Giraffe> well the F5D7050 uses the ralink chipset, which should help.
[06:53] <alexnb185> like the driver cds
[06:53] <kungfugoat> I work as a programmer in the corporate world and it sucks the living soul out of you if you're not careful
[06:53] <Mr_Giraffe> don't bother with ndiswrapper if it has ralink chipsets.
[06:53] <alexnb185> i jsut dont' ahve any idea and can't find good help on the internet
[06:54] <alexnb185> well heres the thing
[06:54] <alexnb185> i can't get them to work
[06:54] <alexnb185> like how do i do it
[06:54] <jasin> kungfu, yes, my brother is a programer he had to quit and goto a different department.
[06:54] <jasin> yes=yep
[06:54] <alexnb185> i can't get he drivers to work becuase they aren't linux
[06:54] <Nubbie> shaddox: yeah most likely. good luck.
[06:54] <Shaddox> Alright
[06:54] <alexnb185> so can i get drivers for the dlink wua 1340?
[06:54] <jasin> ndiswraper sucks.
[06:55] <Mr_Giraffe> alexnb185, not necessarily.
[06:55] <Shaddox> Erm, wait...
[06:55] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone here has e-books or tutorials about C++ ?? i'd like to come back study this language again...
[06:55] <Nubbie> shaddox: you can also blame broadcom for not releasing linux drivers. they're making it difficult for you, NOT linux.
[06:55] <Shaddox> I'm on Ubuntu 7.04 fiesty daily build...
[06:55] <Nubbie> shaddox: have fun with linux, it's worth the effort.
[06:55] <DeskLamp> Hi Room.
[06:55] <madman91> Nubbie: will feisty ask for users?
[06:55] <Shaddox> The guy who is setting me up said that this guide wouldn't help
[06:56] <Nubbie> madman91: yes. so you should have your login the same as your old installation.
[06:56] <HelPmEe> where can i download a GNU C compiler to start programming in C
[06:56] <Juancab> eck?
[06:56] <DeskLamp> I'm attempting to install Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server, I just want a stable web server.
[06:56] <DeskLamp> It's kicking my butt.
[06:56] <jasin> ndiswrapper and the inf driver never did get my wifi nic going I just bit the bullet and shelled out the 25 bucks and bought an ipw 2200 which is supported out of the box in ubuntu.
[06:56] <madman91> Nubbie: but will it ask.. then you input your old user name?
[06:56] <Juancab> eck: The new partition is ready
[06:56] <DeskLamp> I want to install ispconfig
[06:56] <Nubbie> madman91: and there may be issues trying to log in, in which case you'll have to chmod -R your home directory to 644.
[06:56] <Nubbie> madman91: yes.
[06:56] <Shaba1> why so you just not install unbuntu desktop and apache
[06:56] <Shaba1> ??
[06:57] <DeskLamp> Shab I don't know.
[06:57] <DeskLamp> I thought the command line would be easy
[06:57] <madman91> Nubbie: and you acces the terminal with alt+f1 ?
[06:57] <jasin> I wont install ubuntu on my desktop.
[06:57] <madman91> Nubbie: isnt it chmod -hR
[06:57] <Juancab> eck: how do I assign it the folder?
[06:57] <Nubbie> madman91: yes, and no.
[06:57] <Shaba1> hell I could run badblue on windows xp home if I wanted to
[06:57] <Shaba1> with a dyndns addreess
[06:58] <Nubbie> madman91: sudo chmod -R 644 /home/<user>
[06:58] <madman91> Nubbie: what is -h >
[06:58] <madman91> ?
[06:58] <DeskLamp> Anyway, how do I ftp from ispconf.com. It asks me for a username and pass?
[06:58] <Nubbie> madman91: i have no idea.
[06:58] <schizm> quick question, what program does System->Administration->Login window try to open?  When I try to select it (trying to get a headless setup with VNC) it tries to start something and is unsuccessful.  Just silently fails
[06:58] <madman91> Nubbie: ohh... its chown -hR not chmod -hR
[06:58] <madman91> Nubbie: :)
[06:58] <HelPmEe> can i use putty on my other computer (windows xp) if i am on a Ubuntu Live CD?
[06:58] <dj-fu> if sshd is started on the ubuntu live system yea
[06:58] <colbert> How do I rip/convert an .avi (music video) to a .mp3 file in Ubuntu ??
[06:58] <madman91> Nubbie: 644 being ?
[06:59] <Nubbie> madman91: the default.
[06:59] <HelPmEe> how can i start it
[06:59] <dj-fu> man chmod
[06:59] <Shaba1> headless
[06:59] <Shaba1> what is that
[06:59] <madman91> colbert: your mean.. how do i rip the audio from an .avi to .mp3
[06:59] <clearzen> HelPmEe: you have to run sudo aptitude install ssh
[06:59] <schizm> headless == no keyboard/monitor
[06:59] <colbert> madman91: correct ! =] 
[06:59] <madman91> Nubbie: alrighty.. thanks.. i think i will wait for the actual release
[06:59] <Nubbie> madman91: ubuntu may not work right if the permissions on your home directory are wrong, and that could happen if you take the /home directory from an old install.
[06:59] <schizm> ah its trying to run gconfd or so top shows
[06:59] <schizm> hmm
[06:59] <Nubbie> madman91: you can upgrade without having to do a fresh install.
[07:00] <Shaba1> you will have to make sure the ssh deamone or the telnet deamom is running in rc.local
[07:00] <madman91> Nubbie: how so? and is it worth it?
[07:00] <menzellu> hi all
[07:00] <HelPmEe> Couldn't find any package matching "sshd".  However, the following
[07:00] <HelPmEe> packages contain "sshd" in their description:
[07:00] <HelPmEe>   libjsch-java-doc libjsch-java openssh-server
[07:00] <HelPmEe> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[07:00] <HelPmEe> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:00] <HelPmEe> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[07:00] <Shaba1> then you can just telnet or slongin to it
[07:00] <HelPmEe> oups
[07:00] <Nubbie> madman91: read the guide, use update-manager, and yes it's worth it.
[07:00] <madman91> HelPmEe: too many lines :)
[07:00] <Nubbie> !paste > helpmee
[07:00] <madman91> Nubbie: gksu update-manager -c .. or xxxxx ...
[07:00] <HelPmEe> sorry nubbie
[07:00] <Juancab> eck, are you still there?
[07:00] <Jump86> does avant window navigator work well in fiesty?
[07:00] <clearzen> HelPmEe: you need to enable the cd as a repository with synaptic before it will work
[07:00] <madman91> Nubbie: but doesnt that take a long time .. and its not as throughouly clean as fresh ?
[07:01] <Nubbie> madman91: yeah..
[07:01] <Shaba1> I have to do the same thing with and ipcop box at work this week
[07:01] <Nubbie> jump86: works well for me. you need to be running beryl or compiz though.
[07:01] <Nubbie> jump86: as it uses compositing.
[07:01] <alexnb185> can anyone here help me with installing ndiswrapper??????
[07:01] <Infinity__> Hey guys, quick question. When I explore my other hard drive it brings up "disk1" on my desktop. There is an option to "Unmount Volume" that would just make it go off my desktop correct? Not remove the drive?
[07:01] <Jump86> Nubbie, i have beryl working.. does avant need to configured a certain way to just compile and install?
[07:02] <Mr_Giraffe> Jump86, doesn't avant use the IE rendering engine?
[07:02] <Nubbie> madman91: it is not as clean, but it is just as thorough. some old config files or files in your home directory may not be needed after the upgrade, so they'll hang around, but it is really efficient otherwise.
[07:02] <jasin> live cd's are a horrible way to run linux permanently
[07:02] <madman91> Nubbie: what do you do?
[07:02] <Nubbie> jump86: it is very easy to install. read the guide.
[07:02] <zillio> hi !
[07:02] <zillio> help me!
[07:03] <Nubbie> jump86: as long as you have beryl running it will work. it will work even if you don't, but the bottom of your screen will be messed up.
[07:03] <Madpilot> jasin, ya, but they're a wonderful way to avoid Windows on machines that aren't yours and that you can't reconfigure permanently...
[07:03] <Juancab> How do I relocate the /var directory to a new partition, can anyone help me?
[07:03] <Nubbie> madman91: i upgrade using update-manager.
[07:03] <madman91> Nubbie: fine then.. but what happens if it dies halfway?
[07:03] <madman91> Nubbie: like.. connection error?
[07:03] <jasin> Madpilot, booting linux off a thum drive is better, they hold more data.
[07:03] <colbert> how do I find out if I have a package installed, it's apt something policy i can't rememebr
[07:04] <Nubbie> madman91: it doesn't start the upgrade until all of the files are downloaded anyways.
[07:04] <zillio> in the /usr/share/calendar is calendars...this calendars for evolution?
[07:04] <jasin> madpoint, plus their not prone to scratches
[07:04] <jasin> mad, and their read writable
[07:04] <dj-fu> and they have a limited read/write count
[07:04] <Madpilot> jasin, true, but liveCDs have a slightly higher Just Works factor. Then just mount your thumbdrive & copy stuff over.
[07:04] <madman91> Nubbie: ooo .. nice
[07:04] <Nubbie> madman91: but if your burned cd has a scratch in it halfway through the install, you're screwed.
[07:04] <dj-fu> running an OS off a flashdrive is just asking for premature solidstate failure
[07:04] <dj-fu> imo, anyways;
[07:05] <madman91> Nubbie: ? .. you have to burn it?
[07:05] <Madpilot> jasin, mind the tab-complete errors - you're pinging people who ain't me. ;)
[07:05] <madman91> Nubbie: i thought it was like through apt
[07:05] <Nubbie> madman91: if you want to do a fresh installation you do.
[07:05] <norrin_radd^> hi! newb here. im trying out this vmware thing. whats the main difference between the player and the server. thanks
[07:05] <madman91> Nubbie: oh yeah.. you are comparing now
[07:05] <jasin> even cdrw's are limited you can only write back over then so many times
[07:05] <Nubbie> madman91: read the guide, use the update-manager method.
[07:05] <jasin> Madpoint, ok
[07:05] <madman91> Nubbie: what happens if something happens.. power failure .. ?
[07:06] <jasin> Madpilot, ok
[07:06] <madman91> Nubbie: ok thanks
[07:06] <Nubbie> madman91: it would be fine.
[07:06] <premier_> I'm having trouble with an ati card and fglrx drivers.  I followed instructions to install them here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[07:06] <premier_> but they still don't work
[07:06] <jasin> I dont use irc that much, so you'll have to excuse me.
[07:06] <Nubbie> madman91: what if lightning struck and killed you while updating your system...
[07:06] <madman91> Nubbie: well.. it would probably finish
[07:06] <Nubbie> madman91: lots of ifs and things that will never happen.
[07:06] <Nubbie> madman91: and things that don't matter.
[07:07] <norrin_radd^> hi! newb here. im trying out this vmware thing. whats the main difference between the player and the server? thanks
[07:07] <madman91> Nubbie: can i use updateman to goto beta?
[07:07] <Nubbie> madman91: if you lose power in the middle of the upgrade, my bet is you'll still be able to boot your system.
[07:07] <Nubbie> !spam > norrin_radd^
[07:07] <premier_> fglrxinfo is supposed to read "OpenGL vendor string: ATI" but it reads "OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org"
[07:07] <norrin_radd^> ouch
[07:07] <Nubbie> norrin_radd^: why don't you ask a question.
[07:07] <Nubbie> premier_: then you don't have it set up right.
[07:07] <norrin_radd^> i did ask a question
[07:08] <premier_> Nubbie: thanks
[07:08] <Nubbie> norrin_radd^: what player???????
[07:08] <Infinity__> Hey guys, quick question. When I explore my other hard drive it brings up "disk1" on my desktop. There is an option to "Unmount Volume" that would just make it go off my desktop correct? Not remove the drive?
[07:08] <premier_> theres a troubleshooter entry for my problem but it didn't help
[07:08] <Nubbie> premier_: and the radeon drivers don't work enough for you?
[07:08] <premier_> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Troubleshooting
[07:08] <norrin_radd^> whats the difference between vmware player and vmware server?
[07:08] <Nubbie> premier_: i have full 3d acceleration using the radeon drivers.
[07:09] <premier_> ummm... are the radeon drivers the same as the fglrx drivers?
[07:09] <madman91> Nubbie: can i update to feisty from dapper? or through edgy?
[07:09] <phr0ze> I upgraded from Dapper to edgy. However I still see dapper referenced in synaptic. Did I miss a step?
[07:09] <Nubbie> norrin_radd^: you didn't mention vmware. check vmware's website, as this is a chat room for ubuntu support.
[07:09] <Nubbie> madman91: yes you'll have to upgrade twice, you can't skip releases while upgrading.
[07:10] <Nubbie> premier_: first off, what ATI card do you have?
[07:10] <premier_> ati radeon mobility X1400
[07:10] <madman91> Nubbie: so you are telling me to upgrade to 6.10 first... i have nvidia drivers that i dont know how i got to work.. 6.10 wouldnt install because of driver issues... 6.06 did.. if i upgrade to 6.10 .. will they be dead?
[07:10] <norrin_radd^> thanks a lot for the huge help Nubbie
[07:11] <Jump86> is avant not a start bar? its installed but seems to be more of a taskbar
[07:11] <Nubbie> premier_: then i can probably tell you the radeon drivers will do everything you need. i use beryl, run opengl games, and everything using them.
[07:11] <jasin> 7.04 fawn is going to be much better then edgy.
[07:11] <premier_> Nubbie: fine.  How do I install them?
[07:11] <biotrox> fawn or feisty..?
[07:11] <Nubbie> norrin_radd^: the difference is one's free and available in ubuntu repositories, the other one isn't free, and not available in ubuntu repositories.
[07:12] <Nubbie> norrin_radd^: all of which you could've known if you tried to look it up before asking in here.
[07:12] <UnluckyMan> I'm having an issue to get 6.10 or 7.04 installer to work.  Anyone feel like helping me work through it?
[07:13] <jasin> fiesty fawn I guess is what their calling it.
[07:13] <Nubbie> unluckyman: what's your problem? don't ask for permission to get help, just ask and people will do their best.
[07:14] <aldin> can someone try this ftp://80.65.172.155/ an upload some txt or make dir just to check is it working anonymous login allowed
[07:14] <Nubbie> panzerMKZ: lol "i=SlowONE@dialup................" lol
[07:14] <UnluckyMan> First off, I never get a boot list when it boots from the CD.  My computer gives the normal "Boot from CD" message, then it immediately starts booting the kernel.
[07:14] <LaNCeloT_RW> can I use the command ldconfig like this ? ldconfig gimp ??
[07:15] <Paddy_EIRE> hi all
[07:15] <UnluckyMan> I tried the CD in a different computer and it works fine.  Both versions do it on this particular computer.
[07:15] <LaNCeloT_RW> to update the ld.conf.cache ?
[07:15] <jasin> I'm runing the beta now and it fixes lots of problems on my laptop. Its a BIG improvement.
[07:15] <colbert> how do I find out if I have a package installed, it's apt something policy i can't rememebr
[07:15] <Paddy_EIRE> !apt
[07:15] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:15] <aldin> colbert, dpkg -l | grep namepackage
[07:15] <Paddy_EIRE> and that ^^^^
[07:15] <Nubbie> aldin: check the root of your ftp server :)
[07:16] <aldin> i just did thanks a lot
[07:16] <densin> any web about how to remaster installer ubuntu CD?
[07:16] <colbert> thank you !
[07:16] <Nubbie> aldin: now post all your musics in there for me to pillage from :D
[07:16] <madman91> Nubbie: well you got me hooked.. im upgrading to 6.10 now
[07:16] <aldin> just wanted to write "someno has put some txt on my ftp" thanks again
[07:16] <UnluckyMan> When my installer boots the kernel, my display just goes black and displays nothing at all.  I can hear the CD cycling but I never see anything.
[07:17] <jasin> Anyone know what the system requirements are for 7.04?
[07:17] <kernel06> i couldn't make my airlink plus mimo pcmcia card to work any idea pls.
[07:17] <Paddy_EIRE> madman91 you should wait... feisty is out on the 19th of April
[07:17] <Nubbie> madman91: you should upgrade sometime soon to 7.04 as it's being released in the next couple weeks, and has many new packages.
[07:17] <aldin> Nubbie, hehe
[07:17] <Nubbie> aldin: i'm not joking.
[07:17] <madman91> Nubbie: i know.. i know.. but i cant skip with upgrade manager
[07:17] <Nubbie> aldin: i demand satisfaction.
[07:17] <Skiguy> hi all - can someone give me a hand with a network share setup? I had it running, but it won't seem to connect now and I can't figure out what changed
[07:17] <aldin> Nubbie, i have problem if i am befind router i cant use FTP server on linux... too bad
[07:17] <Nubbie> madman91: mmmkay.
[07:17] <madman91> Paddy_EIRE: i will upgrade to 6.10 with update maanager.. t hen to 7.04
[07:18] <Nubbie> aldin: then you need to open port 21 on your router.
[07:18] <LaNCeloT_RW> ANYONE here using ubuntu edgy could send me the library : "libart_lgpl_2.so.2 " ??
[07:18] <aldin> Nubbie, i am music free... honestly
[07:18] <jasin> 7.04 is suppose to be released on the 19th
[07:18] <UnluckyMan> aldin: Make sure both 20 and 21 are opened.  Port 20 is required for PASV transfer.
[07:18] <Nubbie> aldin: then allow anonymous FTP access to your / folder :)
[07:18] <wizard> what would be the proper fstab option to have smb shares autoreconnect if the network disconnects?
[07:18] <aldin> Nubbie, i did and it works on M$ but not on ubuntu... btw http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15732/
[07:18] <Nubbie> jasin: i hear it has been delayed to the 28th.
[07:18] <premier_> Nubbie: what kind of ati card do you have?
[07:18] <jasin> Nubbie, oh, why the delay?
[07:19] <aldin> UnluckyMan, they are opened
[07:19] <truvisionary> how do you make it so the the changes made to gconf actually stay there?
[07:19] <Nubbie> aldin: first off, ftp'ing to localhost has NOTHING to do with your router.
[07:19] <UnluckyMan> Maybe Ubuntu can't install on a DVI display.
[07:20] <Nubbie> jasin: they had a big issue with a kernel update the other day, i think it's been fixed, but i don't know IF they're delaying, i've only heard rumours. and i don't know why they are delaying it if they even are.
[07:20] <Raubkopierer> I can install the drivers with Ndiswrapper but then i don't have wlan0 at ifconfig :(
[07:20] <jasin> What's the best way to update to 7.04? I'm running the beta now.
[07:20] <Nubbie> jasin: upgrade-manager
[07:20] <jasin> Nubbie, oh, I bet that's why update manager asked me to update the kernel hmmm
[07:21] <Nubbie> jasin: always upgrade your system with update-manager.
[07:21] <aldin> Nubbie, if i am behind router and using ubuntu+proftpd or any vsftpd etc, and have all anonymous stuff enabled i cant connect on my FTP from internet only from local network
[07:21] <Nubbie> jasin: they've fixed it in repositories
[07:21] <Nubbie> jasin: it's not an issue now.
[07:21] <jasin> Nubbie, what are all the switches, -c -d etc.. ?
[07:21] <silent_chaos> Can someone help me with my xorg/nvidiea issue?
[07:21] <Nubbie> jasin: yes exactly.
[07:21] <Skiguy> aldin: what ip are you trying to connect to?
[07:21] <jasin> Nubbie, yes, but explain those switches.
[07:22] <jasin> Nubbie, please.
[07:22] <Nubbie> aldin: if you can access FTP from localhost, but can't from the internet, then your router is NOT configured correctly.
[07:22] <aldin> Skiguy, now it is working when i am on cable modem only...
[07:22] <Nubbie> jasin: one checks for new releases, and the other displays the new release.
[07:22] <aldin> Nubbie, router is ok
[07:22] <Raubkopierer> back >.
[07:22] <Raubkopierer> anyone an idea?
[07:22] <kernel06> i need help making my wireless pcmcia work. i can see wlan0 when i do ifconfig but doesn't connect
[07:22] <aldin> Nubbie, cause i rebooted into windows and had ftplite started which is working
[07:22] <Nubbie> jasin: without them, update-manager will only check for updates to the current stable system.
[07:23] <Jump86> avant window navigator sucks
[07:23] <Nubbie> jump86: how so?
[07:23] <aldin> Nubbie, Skiguy check this message http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15732/
[07:23] <Raubkopierer> aldin: try it without cypting?
[07:23] <aldin> Nubbie, i repeat router is forwardin 20-21 port and 80 on my local IP
[07:23] <jasin> Nubbie, I see, I always just do it graphically: system, addministration, update manager.
[07:23] <Nubbie> aldin: why don't you try ftping in from nautilus.
[07:23] <Jump86> Nubbie, it doesnt work as well as the taskbar.. i cant switch between applications very well.. i have to dick to open, then click to minimize before clicking to open another window..
[07:24] <UnluckyMan> aldin: Are you running a local firewall?
[07:24] <Broccoly> is there some recommended external hdd enclosure for ubuntu? something reliable plug-n-play? any recommended chipsets?
[07:24] <Nubbie> jasin: yeah most users don't need to upgrade to unstable systems, so it isn't enabled by default.
[07:24] <aldin> Nubbie, i have tried form nautilus and firefox same stuff although firefox and nautilus not give me any message but just waiting infinite
[07:24] <silent_chaos> when i tell nvidia x server to save too xorg, it never saves too it
[07:25] <jasin> Nubbie, ok
[07:25] <Nubbie> aldin: message me your ip privately, i will try to connect.
[07:25] <aldin> UnluckyMan, as far as i know on firestarter 20 & 80 are allowd to all btw i can connect from my other compuer to this laptop... 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.3
[07:25] <Nubbie> aldin: i know personally with ubuntu, sometimes services hosted to the internet aren't available inside your own local network.
[07:25] <Nubbie> aldin: i had an issue with that, with something i can't recall.
[07:26] <Nubbie> i think it was a website though.
[07:26] <UnluckyMan> aldin: Are you sure your ISP allows ftp?  I can think of a few that don't.
[07:26] <Nubbie> unluckman: except he's saying that it works from a windows FTP server.
[07:26] <Raubkopierer> I can install the Drivers with Ndiswrapper but I haven't wlan0 in the ifconfig an the led at the Stick don't blink...
[07:26] <Nubbie> unluckyman: i doubt he switched ISP's when he switched to linux ;)
[07:27] <UnluckyMan> Didn't see that part.
[07:27] <aldin> UnluckyMan, i am how can u uplaod now when i have only cable modem... ftp://80.65.172.155/
[07:27] <aldin> or try this http://80.65.172.155/
[07:27] <NBrepresen1> .. how do i re-synchronize with the repos? i was in a weird situation because i added feisty repos to get a specific package and forgot to remove them, which sort of forced me into feisty, and then someone helped me get back to edgy in some respects, but not completely (i still have desktop effects, for example). this is causing problems with dependencies like crazy... so, is there anything like dist-upgrade that will just fix my current install?
[07:27] <aldin> UnluckyMan, try that ftp link
[07:27] <Raubkopierer> :(
[07:27] <UnluckyMan> aldin: It worked fine for me.
[07:27] <aldin> UnluckyMan, and u will see my isp is OK
[07:27] <jasin> Nubbie, i'm running the beta now, it fixes so much on my laptop.
[07:28] <Nubbie> aldin: it all works fine.
[07:28] <aldin> UnluckyMan, u see,but i will go now on cable modem ->router -> me
[07:28] <premier_> Nubbie: I can't find anything saying that my video card, X1400, in supported by radeon drivers.  I do know that the X1300 and the X1600 aren't
[07:28] <aldin> and u will see that u can contact me
[07:28] <jasin> I wish there was a way to upgrade graphics cards on laptops :(
[07:28] <Nubbie> premier_: mmmm okay. perhaps they aren't supported.
[07:28] <aldin> Nubbie, UnluckyMan just sec till i get back with router on
[07:29] <Nubbie> !ati > premier_
[07:29] <NBrepresen1> i've removed the feisty repos, but i'm still somewhere in between. this is causing problems with dependencies and i can't install g++ to get vmware compiled
[07:29] <Nubbie> premier_: is that the guide you followed?
[07:29] <silent_chaos> Does anyone know why i cant get my xorg settings to stay after an X reset?
[07:29] <arooni> can someone confirm that this for a crontab will run every minute of everdyay: * * * * * command
[07:29] <Nubbie> NBrepresen1: you should have upgraded via the recommended method, which is using update-manager.
[07:29] <vexati0n> silent_chaos, because ubuntu is smarter than you and it knows what's good for you more than you do.
[07:29] <premier_> Nubbie: no, I followed the instructions here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[07:29] <jasin> NBrepresen1, its beta man, wait till the final release comes out.
[07:30] <Skiguy> silent: what xorg settings? did you manually edit the xorg.conf?
[07:30] <Raubkopierer> Could somebody maybe help me -.-
[07:30] <Nubbie> NBrepresen1: you wouldn't have this problem if you did. since you're already committed to upgrading as you're halfway through, use sudo update-manager -c -d
[07:30] <Raubkopierer> *snif*
[07:30] <makuseru> is there any way to download embedded flash videos?
[07:30] <Nubbie> Raubkopierer: i don't think USB wifi dongles are very well supported in general.
[07:31] <Nubbie> Raubkopierer: do a quick lsusb for me though.
[07:31] <silent_chaos> skiguy: i set it up in the nvidia x server, but it did not save so i copied the preview into gedit via sudo
[07:31] <NBrepresen1> jasin: yeah, it was really an accident. i had no interest in trying feisty, but if it'll fix things i'll go ahead with that.
[07:31] <wizard> !mp2
[07:31] <Nubbie> Raubkopierer: and pastebin the output.
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <wizard> !mp3
[07:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:32] <pirothezero> whats the max rate on two sata drives both ext3 transfer files from one to the other?
[07:32] <Nubbie> NBrepresen1: sudo update-manager -c -d
[07:32] <pirothezero> 30-40mb/s?
[07:32] <NBrepresen1> Nubbie: did that, it says that i'm up to date
[07:32] <Nubbie> pirothezero: depends completely on your system. check google.
[07:32] <jasin> type alt+f2 and type in update-manager -d, that how the ubuntu site suggest you intiate the update to 7.04 beta.
[07:32] <jasin> see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades
[07:33] <jasin> alt+f2 and type in update-manager -d, that how the ubuntu site suggest you intiate the update to 7.04 beta.
[07:33] <Nubbie> nbrepresen1: and cat /etc/issue says you're using 7.04 ?
[07:33] <Raubkopierer> Nubbie: I'm here with Windows... no connection to the Net with Ubuntu :(
[07:33] <NBrepresen1> Nubbie: it says feisty
[07:34] <SteamUser> hey using wine 9.35 and launching steam I get "fixme:xrender:X11DRV_AlphaBlend not supported - XRENDER headers were missing at compile time"
[07:34] <jasin> NBrepresen1, 7.04 fixes a lot on my laptop, the beta that is.
[07:34] <Nubbie> NBrepresen1: how are you sure you're stuck in between releases then?
[07:34] <SteamUser> fonts dont show
[07:34] <Raubkopierer> Nubbie: And i can only use ndiswrapper... because madwifi don't support usb-sticks...
[07:34] <makuseru> is there any way to download embedded flash videos?
[07:34] <aldin> Nubbie, UnluckyMan i am here again (FTP stuff)
[07:34] <NBrepresen1> well, because i removed the feisty repos, then did a dist-upgrade which someone instructed me to do, to resynchronize with the edgy repos
[07:35] <NBrepresen1> it did a lot of stuff, so i assumed it got me back to edgy. but i guess i was wrong.
[07:35] <Nubbie> Raubkopierer: but ndiswrapper didn't work for you..... i don't know what to say. but you can avoid a lot of headache and buy a $10 network card that supports linux.
[07:35] <jasin> NBrepresen1, I dont suggest running beta though; I am just risky and dont care, you see .. I have lots of backups of everything.
[07:35] <aldin> Nubbie, UnluckyMan my ip 80.65.172.160
[07:36] <Nubbie> NBrepresen1: feisty is quite stable at the moment, probably more so than your half edgy, half feisty monster you're running on.
[07:36] <NBrepresen1> Nubbie: that's what i'm thinking, i need to get back into a state where i can install packages reliably
[07:36] <jasin> Do as I say not as I do :)
[07:36] <wdr1_> ubuntu seems to think my linksys wireless card is a sound card
[07:36] <Nubbie> NBrepresen1: go into synaptic, preferences, the last tab, and prefer releases from either edgy or feisty, which ever way you want to go, then, upgrade your system.
[07:36] <runjun> my connection is going unbelievably slow, I'm at school so I have a static ip and the connection, i tried to do the network tools but it crashes everytime
[07:37] <runjun> anything I can do
[07:37] <wdr1_> how do i convinence it otherwise? :)
[07:37] <Nubbie> wdr1: how is that?
[07:37] <Raubkopierer> Nubbie: mh... maybe...
[07:37] <wdr1_> not sure
[07:37] <wdr1_> but finally realized that's what's going
[07:37] <draeath> Where do I stick an export command so that whenever that user logs in through bash or gdm it gets run?
[07:37] <wdr1_> was causing boot to crash at networking
[07:37] <wdr1_> and when i got past that (disable wireless config), it locked the machine logging in
[07:37] <Nubbie> raubkopierer: i'm telling you that USB dongle wifi things are not well supported by either windows or linux.
[07:37] <aldin> Nubbie,  500 Illegal PORT command
[07:37] <aldin> ftp: bind: Address already in use
[07:37] <aldin>  NOW if i am behid router
[07:38] <wdr1_> after some googling, playing with lspci, removing the card, etc
[07:38] <aldin> Nubbie, UnluckyMan are u there listening?
[07:38] <Nubbie> aldin: yeah.
[07:38] <wdr1_> realized it thought the card was a C-Media card
[07:38] <jasin> dont use a dongle just get a wifi nic
[07:38] <jasin> ipw is well supported in linux
[07:38] <pyrak> whats the ubuntu equivalent of "program files" folder?
[07:39] <wdr1_> in device mgr, info.linux.driver lists it as 'C-Media PCI'
[07:39] <aldin> Nubbie, can u connect "ftp 80.65.172.160", i mena i can connect but cant ls/dir it
[07:39] <wdr1_> how do i properly blacklist it?
[07:39] <draeath> pyrak, there is none, but the programs themselves are usually in /bin or /usr/bin
[07:39] <draeath> pyrak, completely different directory structure
[07:39] <Nubbie> aldin: no, it doesn't seem like it...
[07:39] <wdr1_> can i blacklist it?
[07:39] <draeath> Where do I stick an export command so that whenever that user logs in through bash or gdm it gets run?
[07:39] <Nubbie> aldin: i'm not quite sure what that error means.
[07:40] <SteamUser> hey using wine 9.35 and launching steam I get "fixme:xrender:X11DRV_AlphaBlend not supported - XRENDER headers were missing at compile time" and my fonts don't show.
[07:40] <jasin> pyrak, this site here explains all the directories: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[07:40] <Raubkopierer> Nubbie: works well with windows... full 108Mbit per second...
[07:40] <aldin> Nubbie, ok i google it an saw some rouet nat issue...
[07:40] <rinoboy> hello all
[07:40] <aldin> Nubbie, but nothig exact for now...
[07:40] <rinoboy> I am come from indonesia
[07:40] <Nubbie> pyrak: there is no equivalent because linux does not work like windows.
[07:40] <sgtmattbaker> I have VirtualBox up and running and I want to know of some good LiveCDs I can use in it
[07:40] <Nubbie> pyrak: read that link that jasin gave you.
[07:41] <Nubbie> pyrak: but generally speaking, in linux, all of your programs will be in the folder /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[07:41] <NBrepresen1> sgtmattbaker: is VirtualBox easier than vmware?
[07:41] <pyrak> ty
[07:41] <UnluckyMan> Is there any reason at all why an install CD would completely skip the boot menu when first booting?  I can't find any leads at all.
[07:41] <Nubbie> sgtmattbaker: try google.
[07:41] <silent_chaos> skiguy: i needed to change the refrsh rate
[07:41] <silent_chaos>  but that led to more problems i had to fix
[07:41] <silent_chaos>  i had it all set up, and saved to xorg, then restarted x and its all back to the previous setup
[07:41] <draeath> pyrak, important: only the PROGRAMS!!! data and config goe elsewhere (up to the program really)
[07:41] <sgtmattbaker> NBrepresen1: absolutely.. you can even boot ISOs without burning them to CDs
[07:42] <aldin> Nubbie, can u pls try to make folder on ftp 80.65.172.160
[07:42] <NBrepresen1> did you pay for it?
[07:42] <Nubbie> sgtmattbaker: use google, you are obviously not having a problem, but are too lazy to find your own livecds.
[07:42] <aldin> Nubbie, i cant do it from my comp but perhaps outside one can?
[07:42] <rinoboy> can help me about my linux
[07:42] <Nubbie> aldin: you'll be glad to know trying to connect to your ftp site crashed my nautilus 5 minutes ago ")
[07:42] <UnluckyMan> aldin: I can't connect to your box.
[07:43] <Nubbie> aldin: give me a sec.
[07:43] <aldin> Nubbie, try in terminal ftp ip
[07:43] <rinoboy> hai..
[07:43] <aldin> UnluckyMan, thanx
[07:43] <aldin> UnluckyMan, anonymous?
[07:43] <Nubbie> ftp: connect: No route to host
[07:44] <rinoboy> oh my god I am very nothing understand
[07:44] <Nubbie> aldin ^^
[07:44] <Nubbie> rinoboy: indonesia?
[07:44] <rinoboy> because I am people indonesian
[07:44] <draeath> aldin, it accepted my connection.
[07:44] <sgtmattbaker> is it possible for me to have a really light Linux distro and have virtualbox installed and run a virtual machine and give enough video memory and RAM to the virtual machine would it run *almost* as fast as it would if it were booting off the hard drive
[07:44] <rinoboy> yes me...
[07:44] <draeath> so its not your server thats refusing him
[07:44] <Nubbie> !in
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <Nubbie> :l
[07:44] <UnluckyMan> aldin: Did you look at this?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39566
[07:44] <Nubbie> !indonesian
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about indonesian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <draeath> aldin, i'm in as anonymous
[07:45] <rinoboy> I am newbie teknik informatika
[07:45] <draeath> aldin, what do you need?
[07:45] <rinoboy> but my english very bad
[07:45] <Nubbie> rinoboy: i don't know if there is an indonesian chat. if there isn't i'm sorry but you'll have to try english.
[07:45] <aldin> dreamnid, make some dir
[07:45] <jasin> I am really happy with ubuntu.
[07:45] <cvframer> hey, i'm a newbie, can anybody tell me how to save changes to \menu.lst? it tells me i dont have the permissions necessary...
[07:46] <Crazytom> use sudo when you open it
[07:46] <draeath> aldin, 'test' successfully created
[07:46] <Nubbie> jasin: good! and that whole spiel about there being no games for linux is BS. check out nexuiz for a quake like game and enjoy.
[07:46] <jasin> There is an #indolinux
[07:46] <rinoboy> please your english very easy to my translate..
[07:46] <UnluckyMan> I'd like to use Ubuntu for my fileserver, but I can't even get the installer to work.
[07:46] <Nubbie> jasin: it's even in repositories
[07:46] <rinoboy> ok thank's all
[07:47] <Nubbie> rinoboy: good luck.
[07:47] <rinoboy> thank you
[07:47] <jasin> its on dalnet I think
[07:47] <Nubbie> language barriers = :(
[07:47] <muuhBDXi> http://www.tucows.com/Linux/ Netscape 2004 :D
[07:47] <Nubbie> you want to try to help people but there's no understanding between them.
[07:48] <sgtmattbaker> when I run GeeXbox in virtual box why does my screen just flash black lines across ir repeatedly?
[07:48] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: but whhhhy.... there's firefox.
[07:48] <sgtmattbaker> it*
[07:48] <SteamUser> hey using wine 9.35 and launching steam I get "fixme:xrender:X11DRV_AlphaBlend not supported - XRENDER headers were missing at compile time" and my fonts don't show.
[07:48] <aldin> draeath, thx
[07:48] <aldin> UnluckyMan, can u?
[07:48] <draeath> aldin, anything else?
[07:48] <Madpilot> rinoboy, what is your native language?
[07:48] <jasin> Nubbie, i'm not really a gammer, only games I play are stuff like suppertux
[07:48] <Nubbie> sgtmattbaker: Because thats supposed to run on an xbox. please try to research things beforehand. this is a channel for UBUNTU <--- support, not support of vmware or anything you run on vmware.
[07:48] <draeath> aldin, FYI, I used the command line ftp, not a web browser or anything
[07:48] <muuhBDXi> Spotlight Linux Program Netscape 7.2
[07:48] <UnluckyMan> aldin: No.  Have you configured proftpd?
[07:48] <rinoboy> native the meaning?
[07:48] <rinoboy> aktif?
[07:49] <rinoboy> indonesia, jawa
[07:49] <Nubbie> jasin: well then you'll have no problem adjusting to linux ;)
[07:49] <rinoboy> and pasif my english
[07:49] <draeath> i wish there was an IRc version of the ATT Language Line :P
[07:49] <Nubbie> unluckyman: yeah only when he's behind his router is it not working.
[07:49] <rinoboy> I can speak english but I can understand writen
[07:49] <draeath> I use that at work ALL THE TIME
[07:49] <Nubbie> rinoboy: i understand.
[07:49] <muuhBDXi> a friend of mine tells me ubuntu is sponsored by MS
[07:50] <sgtmattbaker> Nubbie: ah ok.. an xbox.  Wish I still had mine...
[07:50] <aldin> dreamnid, nope, just to "find out" why i cant connect form my box to my "public" IP... i get this message http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15739/
[07:50] <Cosmo___> hmmm I messed something up, when I go into konqueror now it only shows the icons, no text
[07:50] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: thats completely false. it's sponsored by Mark Shuttleworth who is a billionare from South Africa.
[07:50] <muuhBDXi> its MS plan B in case vista dosent make it ...
[07:50] <rinoboy> ups sorry I can not speak english but I can writen.
[07:50] <Nubbie> Mark Shuttleworth is so rich he went to space.
[07:50] <aldin> UnluckyMan, how can draeath connect an leave mkdir there...hmmmm
[07:50] <lizalo_> http://71.36.103.88/phpmyadmin/
[07:50] <jasin> Nubbie, i'm not adjusting, I've been ussing linux since the mid 90's.
[07:50] <muuhBDXi> to space ...
[07:50] <user____> anyone here plays wow using wine??
[07:50] <lizalo_> can you guys see phpmyadmin or what??
[07:50] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: i'm sorry but your friend is an idiot. linux has been around longer than windows has.
[07:50] <dreamnid> aldin, is there a reason why you're directing messages to me?
[07:50] <lizalo_> what mine shows me code in FIRIEFOX :(
[07:50] <SteamUser> I use wine
[07:50] <rinoboy> can learning me abaout language english?
[07:50] <Nubbie> jasin: ohhh lol jeeze maybe you could teach me a couple things then ;)
[07:51] <draeath> aldin, sounds like ftp is running on all your IPs
[07:51] <Paddy_EIRE> ie fox???
[07:51] <muuhBDXi> i guess thatsd why Bill gates is wanting to go there to
[07:51] <UnluckyMan> aldin: I don't know.  If it works without the router or it sporadically works for random people, it's almost definitely not an Ubuntu issue.
[07:51] <draeath> aldin, set up the server to 'bind' it's listening port to your external IP/interface
[07:51] <rinoboy> can learning me about language english?
[07:51] <Paddy_EIRE> !cake
[07:51] <aldin> draeath, how to do so
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <aldin> draeath, which file and which line
[07:51] <draeath> aldin, proftp? one second....
[07:51] <rinoboy> !cari
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cari - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: the only thing windows supports relating to linux is some virtualization stuff and MONO with Novell.
[07:51] <aldin> draeath, yes i have proftpd
[07:52] <draeath> aldin, /etc/proftpd.conf
[07:52] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: why don't you look up the history of linux, it will broaden your understanding of it.
[07:52] <rinoboy> anybody help me, where I can learning english in room chating..?
[07:52] <draeath> aldin, looking for the specifics...
[07:52] <muuhBDXi> linux = toy story
[07:53] <Nubbie> rinoboy: school.... we're sorry we're trying to help you out, but we can't speak indonesian, and you can't type english.
[07:53] <runjun> can anyone help with my internet connection
[07:53] <Nubbie> rinoboy: its very sad.
[07:53] <UnluckyMan> draeth: I already gave him a link to a specific tutorial.  I don't think he's interested in reading it though.
[07:53] <wdr1_> anyone savy with blacklisting drivers?
[07:53] <wdr1_> i want to prevent 'C-Media PCI' from loading
[07:53] <wdr1_> but it's not working
[07:53] <muuhBDXi> after watergate no one trusted computers any more so they made windows
[07:53] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: do you have a problem or what.....
[07:53] <rinoboy> ok is alright
[07:54] <rinoboy> bye...
[07:54] <draeath> aldin, do you have seperate interfaces for your IPs? (eth0, eth1 etc)
[07:54] <SteamUser> runjun just state ur problem
[07:54] <aldin> UnluckyMan, oops sorry didnt reply on link u gave me
[07:54] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: we're trying to help people with problems, not listen to conspiracy theories here.
[07:54] <Madpilot> muuhBDXi, you are starting to troll, and not contributing to the channel. Stop it.
[07:54] <UnluckyMan> aldin: Did you look at it?  It talks about the proftpd.conf file, but a few seconds ago you asked where the config file is.
[07:54] <runjun>  when i click a link it looks for the connection forever and then when it starts loading goes about average for my school
[07:55] <Nubbie> runjun: do you have your DNS set up correctly for your school network?
[07:55] <muuhBDXi> cons piracy ?
[07:55] <aldin> UnluckyMan, my proftpd.conf is not there it is here /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[07:55] <aldin> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3.9K 2007-04-15 06:51 /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[07:55] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: i think it's time you leave.
[07:55] <draeath> aldin, http://www.proftpd.org/docs/directives/linked/config_ref_Bind.html
[07:55] <runjun> yea I put in the dns they gave me
[07:55] <Nubbie> runjun: it's working, but slowly? is that the problem?
[07:56] <aldin> UnluckyMan, but i dont understand this what to put "MasqueradeAddress xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" which adress?
[07:56] <draeath> aldin, theres apparently a better way to do it but you can stick 'bind IP-ADDRESS' in your /etc/proftpd.conf file
[07:56] <muuhBDXi> i should leave ?
[07:56] <jasin> Tux is so cute :)
[07:56] <pyrak> whats the terminal command to copy a dir?
[07:56] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: this isn't a channel for useless chit chat. help somebody, ask for help, or leave.
[07:56] <Tom47> !offtopic
[07:56] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:56] <wdr1_> someone help me? :)
[07:56] <runjun> well it just stopped working in firefox but usually I would click a link and in the bottom left it would say like 'looking for www.google.com' and finally when it connects it would load pretty slow
[07:57] <SteamUser> hey using wine 9.35 and launching steam I get "fixme:xrender:X11DRV_AlphaBlend not supported - XRENDER headers were missing at compile time" and my fonts don't show.  Any help?
[07:57] <draeath> pyrak, man cp
[07:57] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: i'm sure you will entertain the people in #ubuntu-offtopic very well.
[07:57] <muuhBDXi> why is it that ubuntu dosent have root ?
[07:57] <draeath> pyrak, talks about recurive, etc
[07:57] <draeath> muuhBDXi, supposedly more secure.
[07:57] <Tom47> wdr1 can you ask again pls
[07:57] <biotrox> i can connect to my pptp server but do anything hows that possible..?
[07:57] <biotrox> but can't do anything
[07:57] <muuhBDXi> *supposedly*
[07:58] <wdr1_> how do i blacklist a driver that has a value of 'C-Media PCI' for info.linux.driver
[07:58] <draeath> muuhBDXi, an attacker doesn't have a username to go for, he has to know your username (even though good passwords make that pointless)
[07:58] <jasin> cp i the copy command
[07:58] <jasin> i=is
[07:58] <Nubbie> draeath: too bad that the root password is the user's password D:
[07:58] <Timeline> Hey all.
[07:58] <Tom47> !blacklist
[07:58] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[07:58] <SteamUser> you can change it
[07:58] <Nubbie> biotrox: set up your DNS.
[07:58] <draeath> Nubbie, true, but he has to figure out your username first (admitly easy)
[07:58] <wdr1_> tom, i know that part
[07:58] <Timeline> Is there a way  to virus scan a windows volume from the ubuntu live cd?
[07:58] <biotrox> can't ping ip base too
[07:59] <jasin> let me try that again hehe
[07:59] <wdr1_> how do i find the value i have to list to block?
[07:59] <jasin> To copy files, you use the cp command.
[07:59] <draeath> Nubbie, thats OK, I havent done it yet (new install) but i turn off password auth for SSH (public key only) and i try to keep all the other hatches buttoned down
[07:59] <Tom47> ah
[07:59] <muuhBDXi> so thats why most irc linux clients use you user acount name by default ?
[07:59] <Nubbie> Timeline: use clamav.
[07:59] <pyrak> what does this mean: cp: omitting directory `/tmp/songbird'
[07:59] <Nubbie> timeline: just make sure your windows partition is mounted.
[07:59] <draeath> muuhBDXi, its a big nasty debate. If you want root, 'sudo passwd root'
[07:59] <stiv2k> how can i re-install the nvidia driver w.o. connecting to the internet?  I need nm-applet to be able to use the internet...
[08:00] <muuhBDXi> cant root acount be renamed ?
[08:00] <stiv2k> and i cant get it running without getting X running first, requiring the reinstallation of the nvidia driver :P
[08:00] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: you don't need to login as root do to very much. use sudo -s
[08:00] <draeath> muuhBDXi, personally I like not having it as usually you cant use a password to get in at all (god bless public key encryption)
[08:00] <Timeline> Nubbie: Thanks. Is that with ubuntu already or do i need to download/install it?
[08:00] <ardchoille> dreamnid: Please do not tell others how to enable the root account. it's dangerous and not supported. sudo is all you need.
[08:00] <wdr1_> alternatively, can i tell ubuntu to uninstall & re-install a device?  (to see if it auto-detects it correctly the 2nd time)
[08:00] <SteamUser> I only use root account =/
[08:00] <Nubbie> timeline: you have to install it.
[08:00] <Nubbie> !clamav > timeline
[08:00] <draeath> muuhBDXi, that and 'fail2ban' is nifty to keep the bots away
[08:00] <Nubbie> timeline: you may have to enable the repository.
[08:00] <jasin> Booting into linux as root is dangerous.
[08:00] <Madpilot> ubotu, root |  muuhBDXi
[08:00] <ubotu> muuhBDXi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:01] <SteamUser> why?
[08:01] <muuhBDXi> fail2ban ?
[08:01] <muuhBDXi> whats that all about ?
[08:01] <Madpilot> muuhBDXi, all the questions about root/sudo you might have should be answered in the URL the bot just gave you...
[08:01] <wdr1_> ubotu new hardware
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about new hardware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <Nubbie> SteamUser: thats not wise.
[08:01] <Timeline> Nubbie: Ubutu says it doesn't know anything about clamav, but I'll try a search
[08:01] <draeath> muuhBDXi, its a script that scans your syslog and adds iptable rules to drop packets from IPs for a length of time, if they fail a SSH/apache/whatever login too many times
[08:01] <Nubbie> !clam
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <Nubbie> !virus
[08:01] <SteamUser> its faster for me
[08:01] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:01] <muuhBDXi> why cant i rename my root acount ?
[08:01] <jasin> Use sudo instead, do not boot up linux as root.
[08:01] <draeath> muuhBDXi, its configurable to the point where you can monitor any log for anything and do anything with the result, though
[08:02] <muuhBDXi> i can rename windows admin acount
[08:02] <SteamUser> that sudo process is 10 times slower =(
[08:02] <Madpilot> muuhBDXi, this isn't Windows. Thankfully.
[08:02] <Zoo> its been a while :-)
[08:02] <Nubbie> steamuser: the point i'm trying to make is you need an antivirus program called clamav.
[08:02] <jasin> Don Ho died today.
[08:02] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: this is not windows.
[08:02] <SteamUser> I installed that
[08:02] <draeath> muuhBDXi, you CAN, but it involves messing in /etc (usernames get mapped to numbers anyways)
[08:02] <muuhBDXi> that sisnt anser my question
[08:02] <SteamUser> I cant figure out how to do a complete scan
[08:02] <Nubbie> steamuser: i'd like to know where you come up with that stat.
[08:03] <draeath> muuhBDXi, you may have to edit /etc/passwd /etc/group and /etc/shadow but I would NOT recommend doing so!!!
[08:03] <SteamUser> ??
[08:03] <Zoo> ^_^  ~ ~ ~  ~
[08:03] <draeath> muuhBDXi, back up the system and get a liveCD ready to recover....
[08:03] <muuhBDXi> so you can see how many acount there are on one sistem looking up the users acount numbers ?
[08:03] <jasin> SteamUser,  it takes less then a minute to  type sudo and the root password.
[08:03] <jasin> SteamUser, Hows that slow?
[08:03] <SteamUser> nonono
[08:04] <SteamUser> like to move files inside the system
[08:04] <draeath> muuhBDXi, er, kinda. Each user and group is assigned a number from 0-65534 (or is it 1-65535?)
[08:04] <wizard> crimsun: i just went back to 6.10... but i still have a question for you
[08:04] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: why don't use make a new account, give it administrative privileges from the account you already have root privileges with, then delete the old account from within the new one.
[08:04] <draeath> arg! stupid work. I need to get to bed
[08:04] <stiv2k> how do i install the nvidia driver without connecting to the internet (i.e. is there like a cached .deb of the same version that's out in the repos that i can use)
[08:04] <Crazytom> muuhBDXi, system > administration > users and groups > choose root and click preferences then edit the password.  it's as simple as that no fussing with dangereux files
[08:04] <Nubbie> steamuser: um it runs just as fast, as it's the same program actually moving the files.
[08:04] <Tom47> wdr1 in pondering yr question ... what is the device?
[08:04] <SteamUser> they need to make a visual one
[08:05] <draeath> Crazytom, that is assuming he is running GNOME
[08:05] <Nubbie> steamuser: listen to us when we tell you that sudo is safer, and just as fast, and that you should use it.
[08:05] <SteamUser> then when you drag the files into a folder it asks for the pass
[08:05] <Nubbie> steamuser: then use sudo nautilus.
[08:05] <Gigi> Do you guys know a hard drive case for laptops (2.5'') hard drives., that works with Ubuntu?  I purchased the Dog one and it is not compatible
[08:05] <jasin> SteamUser,  fine, do what you want, but booting into linux as root has security risks.
[08:05] <draeath> Nubbie, just as fast, yes. Safer? Not a whole lot, when you look at the whole picture
[08:05] <dougb> quick question.  if i was to install ubuntu and split the partition, can i go back and use gparted to delete the NTFS partition and extend the ext3 partition?
[08:05] <Gigi> My laptop died permanently yesterday so....
[08:05] <Nubbie> gigi: any usb mass storage capable device will work with linux.
[08:05] <Tom47> Gigi i use a wellard case
[08:05] <wizard> jasin: let him learn on his own ;-)
[08:05] <wizard> jasin: everyone needs to be hacked once to learn fully the risks
[08:05] <draeath> Nubbie, sure, they have to find your username rather than just guess at root... but how hard is it to find that?
[08:06] <EnderTheThird> Can someone tell me how to access a smb share via command line so i can cp -r a folder without it throwing errors for skip/cancel/retry every 3 seconds?
[08:06] <Gigi> Nubbie the Dog one no. If you see on the L compatibilities it does not work
[08:06] <SteamUser> like they can hack me
[08:06] <SteamUser> rofl
[08:06] <Gigi> Thanks Tom47
[08:06] <muuhBDXi> wizard: can you hack me plsease ?
[08:06] <draeath> SteamUser, that's a dangerous train of thought... (fires up autopwn in backtrack)
[08:06] <mukanya> hello everyone
[08:06] <SteamUser> yep
[08:06] <dougb> SteamUser: ubuntu isn't the solution to security
[08:06] <SteamUser> I got backtrack2
[08:06] <wizard> muuhBDXi: what?? lol
[08:06] <Madpilot> SteamUser, far more likely that you'll "hack" yourself by screwing with your admin accounts...
[08:06] <Nubbie> draeath: when you're logged in as root, any script or virus for that matter can destroy your computer. when you run something as sudo, the virus or whatever will still need to login as root to do anything.
[08:06] <Cytomax> Hello all.... quick question.. I have Ubuntu 6.10 and i would like to be able to inject packets using my netgear WG511T.... is all i have to do download madwifi-0.9.3.tar and install it in order to inject packets with the aircrack-ng suite ... or is there some patch i have to get after that...
[08:06] <draeath> SteamUser, ok, but do you know how to use it? and defend from things like that?
[08:07] <SteamUser> yep
[08:07] <draeath> Nubbie, provided you haven't sudo'd recently...
[08:07] <wizard> muuhBDXi: who said anytthing about *me* hacking. i just said let him do it his way and when he gets exploited he'll learn about running root as a visual uer.
[08:07] <draeath> Nubbie, I use sudo a LOT. but I'm careful what I type.
[08:07] <Nubbie> cytomax: i don't think anybody here is going to help you hack wifi connections.
[08:07] <SteamUser> I got by speed...
[08:07] <dougb> SteamUser: why do you want to run as root?
[08:07] <SteamUser> go*
[08:07] <draeath> dougb, not really important... he wants to he can (his equipment)
[08:07] <wizard> dougb: because apparently sudo is too slow.
[08:07] <jasin> Linux is not more secure then Windows if you are doing stuff that exposes it to be hacked and/or cracked.
[08:07] <SteamUser> thats not my question
[08:07] <Tom47> Gigi its the One Touch Backup Draive and i have a samsung drive in t ... the one touch of course is not a linux function
[08:08] <SteamUser> hey using wine 9.35 and launching steam I get "fixme:xrender:X11DRV_AlphaBlend not supported - XRENDER headers were missing at compile time" and my fonts don't show.  Any help?
[08:08] <Timeline> Nubbie: Says clamav is not available
[08:08] <Cytomax> i am testing my own AP strength using the 128 bit enc with a randomly generated password ... trying to see if its any stronger than my simple passphrase...
[08:08] <dougb> i've never noticed a speed difference before
[08:08] <muuhBDXi> will there be a usb thumb drive ubuntu  =
[08:08] <muuhBDXi> ?
[08:08] <Cytomax> besides its a simple question... yes or no
[08:08] <draeath> SteamUser, recompile steam with the proper headers... where did you get wine?
[08:08] <Gigi> I don't mind, I just need to take the info from the hard drive.  All my computers run only Linux :)
[08:08] <SteamUser> database
[08:08] <dougb> wine 9.35 is out??? wow where was i when 1.0 was released! =-O
[08:08] <Nubbie> steamuser: your argument about speed is totally dumb. typing sudo whatever copy is just as fast as using nautilus as root. nautilus uses the command cp whether you're logged in as root or not. its the SAME PROGRAM whether or not it's run as root.
[08:08] <jasin> be=being
[08:08] <draeath> SteamUser, what?
[08:09] <wizard> ohh thats crafty
[08:09] <wizard> the second mouse gets the cheese... took me a second there
[08:09] <Tom47> dougb its still "Where will I be when ..."
[08:09] <jasin> SteamUser,  huh?
[08:09] <Nubbie> wizard: horrible pun :)
[08:09] <muuhBDXi> will there be a usb thumb drive ubuntu version  ?
[08:09] <dougb> SteamUser: it sounds like you are trying to run steam with directX, you should be running it with openGL
[08:09] <wizard> Nubbie: did i pun someone? lol
[08:09] <dougb> Tom47: i know, it was a joke ;-)
[08:09] <SteamUser> ahh
[08:09] <Nubbie> wizard and crafty....
[08:09] <muuhBDXi> will i be able to get it thru shipit ?
[08:09] <SteamUser> let my try thanks
[08:09] <Nubbie> lol..
[08:09] <wizard> lol...
[08:10] <draeath> sudo rm (blah) is JUST as fast as su root -c '(blah)
[08:10] <draeath> muuhBDXi, probably not.
[08:10] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: you could copy the contents of a livecd to a usb drive... do you actually have a problem by the way?
[08:10] <jasin> Thinking you are secure when you are not is the same as having no security whatsoever.
[08:10] <wizard> draeath: i think he wants to be able to log in as root.
[08:10] <wizard> draeath: as in actual graphical login
[08:10] <wizard> and run the machine as a full administrator
[08:10] <wizard> like windows.
[08:10] <Nubbie> thats dumb.
[08:10] <draeath> er...
[08:10] <muuhBDXi> i have lots of problems
[08:10] <dougb> i remember when i installed ubuntu that was the first thing i tried to do
[08:10] <jasin> dreath, exactly
[08:11] <dougb> and i did it for awhile, but then i learned the wonderful thing called "sudo"
[08:11] <jasin> su takes seconds to type.
[08:11] <draeath> I remember trying that on my first try in linux and wondering WTF when all the games complained about being root :D
[08:11] <NBrepresent> hi, how can i copy a cd to an iso on my computer in ubuntu?
[08:11] <jasin> You are complaining about a few seconds? Pathetic!
[08:11] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: you do NOT need to be logged in as root. that is why windows has so many problems, because any program can run and modify whatever it feels like with no checks.
[08:11] <draeath> That was debian woody
[08:11] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: we're telling you not to log in as root.
[08:11] <draeath> NBrepresent, do this from a terminal:
[08:11] <wizard> hah...
[08:11] <dougb> NBrepresent: right click the CD and go to "Copy Disk" and it will give you the option to copy it into a file
[08:11] <wizard> you see what wanting root does? it starts riots.
[08:12] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: if you disagree then you can look up how to enable root logins with ubuntu yourself.
[08:12] <draeath> NBrepresent, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/somewhere/image.iso conv=noerror
[08:12] <draeath> adjust paths as needed
[08:12] <muuhBDXi> im loged in has root ?
[08:12] <dougb> no muuhBDXi
[08:12] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: no but you want to be.
[08:12] <draeath> muuhBDXi, looks like your logged in as foo
[08:12] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: which is totally unsafe.
[08:12] <aldin> draeath, can u execute ls on ftp 80.65.172.160 (anonymous) ?
[08:12] <muuhBDXi> i dont use root no even on windows
[08:12] <Crazytom> i figured out how to login as root into a x environment the other day on accident (it was disabled)  obviously i could have done it by enableing local admin login but i didn't
[08:12] <draeath> aldin, sure, one sec
[08:13] <Crazytom> i ran sudo telinit 1
[08:13] <muuhBDXi> whats foo ?
[08:13] <dougb> i use root on windows, but at the same time i dont download any software from untrusted websites
[08:13] <Crazytom> then i killed x
[08:13] <draeath> muuhBDXi, the result of /whois muuhBDXi
[08:13] <muuhBDXi> fool ?
[08:13] <Crazytom> and restarted it and it logged me in a root
[08:13] <aldin> draeath, and perhaps make one more dir
[08:13] <draeath> aldin, -rw-r--r--   1 ftp      ftp           166 Jul 22  2006 welcome.msg
[08:13] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: the account you're logged in as. do you have a problem? if not please join channel #ubuntu-offtopic.
[08:13] <draeath> aldin, 257 "/foobar" - Directory successfully created
[08:14] <dougb> haha
[08:14] <Nubbie> foobar :\
[08:14] <dougb> fubar!
[08:14] <muuhBDXi> whats foobar ?
[08:14] <jasin> ubuntu does not let you boot into the desktop as root, so you must of gone in and changed some things.
[08:14] <dougb> an MP3 player for Windows
[08:14] <wizard> Nubbie: techically its most users who are fubar!
[08:14] <draeath> muuhBDXi, foobar, borked, broken, messed up, screwed, etc
[08:14] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=foobar&btnG=Google+Search look it up yourself.
[08:14] <dougb> http://www.foobar2000.org/
[08:15] <Nubbie> do we look like a dictionary................
[08:15] <draeath> dougb, we need a linux foobar2k
[08:15] <muuhBDXi> you mean Fucked Up Behond All Recognition ?
[08:15] <dougb> wine ftw
[08:15] <wizard> !ohmy
[08:15] <Nubbie> draeath: um no we don't, because we have BANSHEE:)
[08:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:15] <draeath> muuhBDXi, yep :D
[08:15] <dougb> i bet it works in wine, there isn't much to it
[08:15] <jasin> editing conf and lst files without knowing what you are doing is really stupid.
[08:15] <draeath> Nubbie, quark
[08:15] <runjun> i don't get how Xchat and GAIM work but firefox doesn't
[08:15] <muuhBDXi> linux users are scarry
[08:15] <Nubbie> draeath: w/e. i'm a banshee advocate. :)
[08:15] <Adimanuk> Hi, I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. WHen I start uo ubuntu I need to unplug then plug the bluetooth dongle back in. It's odd because the keyboard and mouse work for a short while, but then stop. Got any ideas?
[08:15] <dougb> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1749 looks good to me draeath
[08:15] <draeath> never see nbanshee
[08:16] <Timeline> Nubbie: I can't seem to install clamav
[08:16] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: can you please leave?
[08:16] <draeath> dougb, bleh
[08:16] <wizard> there is just some mad drama going down in this ubuntu channel today.
[08:16] <muuhBDXi> why should i leave ?
[08:16] <dougb> i'm learning C++ right now, it would be interesting to see how easy it would be to create a clone
[08:16] <draeath> Nubbie, /ignore works good :)
[08:16] <Nubbie> somebody should kick him.
[08:16] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: because you're insulting.
[08:16] <jasin> i'll bbl
[08:16] <wizard> okay okay, I may not be an op of any sort but look everyone
[08:16] <wizard> calm down please?
[08:16] <aldin> draeath, thx... i can make dirs too but ls and dir commands still not working... from my box to my box (public ip)... still got http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15745/
[08:16] <muuhBDXi> insulting ?
[08:16] <draeath> Nubbie, I'm just as irritated as him but I vote that he can stay untill he breaks rules
[08:16] <wizard> its ubuntu... think of fluffy teddybears and relax
[08:16] <dougb> he's not really bugging me
[08:16] <Madpilot> muuhBDXi, last warning. Cool it, and mind the language.
[08:17] <Nubbie> draeath: offtopic ?
[08:17] <SteamUser> just ignore him
[08:17] <Nubbie> :l
[08:17] <muuhBDXi> sure thing foos
[08:17] <wdr1_> muuhdbxi, why stick around?
[08:17] <SteamUser> cuz
[08:17] <SteamUser> he wants to
[08:17] <Ademan> anyone has information on developing gnome2 applets with python?
[08:17] <jmega> im trying to access my windows shares. I have samba installed. I can see the shares from my other windows box but I cant access them from ubuntu
[08:17] <Tom47> right click ignore works for me
[08:17] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: good luck in the scary world of linux. just don't expect any help from scary linux users when your system breaks because you refuse to listen to use about logging in as root. /ignore
[08:17] <Madpilot> Ademan, the Gnome dev or python channels might
[08:18] <dougb> i know i probably shouldn't mention it in this chat, but i'm going to install 7.04 right now :-D
[08:18] <wizard> the temperature in this chat is quite elevated...
[08:18] <muuhBDXi> linux breaks ?
[08:18] <wizard> can we take it down a notch please?
[08:18] <Ademan> #gnome is generally dead
[08:18] <Nubbie> muuhBDXi: are you even using ubuntu right now?
[08:18] <yiga1> dougb: feisty is pretty stable
[08:18] <sachrioja> hi
[08:18] <muuhBDXi> never used ubuntu
[08:18] <Madpilot> Ademan, gnome uses it's own IRC servers, not much on Freenode
[08:18] <SteamUser> Lol
[08:18] <wizard> Nubbie: lets stop talking to him alright? do whats right.
[08:18] <sachrioja> hi everbody
[08:18] <draeath> aldin, what does 'cat /etc/hosts | grep localhost' display?
[08:18] <muuhBDXi> ubuntu = security experts tool
[08:18] <safer> IN beryl -- does anyone know how to make the cube zoom out while rotating?
[08:18] <Nubbie> wizard. mmkay. somebody should ban the troll though.
[08:18] <yiga1> sachrioja:hi
[08:19] <sachrioja> hi yitgal
[08:19] <draeath> Don't feed the trolls.
[08:19] <Ademan> Madpilot: it's pretty dead over on GIMPNet too, #gnome-hackers is the best channel over there, thanks though i'll go bug them :-)
[08:19] <wizard> Nubbie: they will get to him, the last thing you want is to be on a ban along with him for fueling his fire even higher.
[08:19] <yiga1> safer: what do you mean zoom out?
[08:19] <jmega> im trying to access my windows shares. I have samba installed. I can see the shares from my other windows box but I cant access them from ubuntu
[08:19] <Nubbie> safer: join #ubuntu-xgl i believe for help with compiz or beryl.
[08:19] <sachrioja> im looking for help
[08:19] <yiga1> safer: do you mean more than Ctrl+Alt move mouse?
[08:19] <wizard> safer: just remember that xgl and beryl are extremely beta :-). expect lotsa breaks, lotsa bugs.
[08:19] <aldin> draeath, http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15746/
[08:19] <dougb> woops
[08:20] <Crazytom> jmega, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:20] <Tom47> !ask > sachrioja
[08:20] <muuhBDXi> how do i use ubuintu to track down some one online ?
[08:20] <yiga1> safer: the only time Beta has broken on me is moving from a virtual terminal back and forth to GNOME
[08:20] <wizard> !ask @ sachrioja
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask @ sachrioja - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <sachrioja> im new on ubuntu, and iwant to know how to configure mi midi soundcard
[08:20] <draeath> aldin, whats your hostname and domain name?
[08:20] <draeath> aldin, do you have one?
[08:20] <Nubbie> safer: you won't generally expect many bugs with beryl as long as your system is well enough equipped to run it. but please ask for help with beryl in #ubuntu-xgl.
[08:20] <pcollins> safer, how are you using beryl in ubuntu? searching for beryl in apt returns nothing for me.
[08:21] <yiga1> safer: but then it broke bad and even Ctrl+b+PrtScrn didn't do anything
[08:21] <wizard> sachrioja: first step is to make sure its compatible
[08:21] <aldin> draeath, nope perhaps... do u cound dyndns?
[08:21] <draeath> pcollins, there is stuff on the wiki... a third party repo
[08:21] <thetechgeek> how do i resize a fat-32 type partition?
[08:21] <safer> I mean ---- when I hold down the wheel and rotate the cube
[08:21] <Nubbie> wizard: i don't think beryl is beta anymore... they've had a major release i believe.
[08:21] <sachrioja> ok, i have audio sound
[08:21] <safer> I want it to not be so close-up
[08:21] <yiga1> thetechgeek: use gparted
[08:21] <Timeline> Can anyone help me with clamav? Apt-get is not able to find it.
[08:21] <wizard> Nubbie: oh.. well then it just runs like butt for me  lol
[08:21] <draeath> aldin, hmm... I think the issue is that its trying to talk to you with one IP while you are communicating with another.
[08:21] <Nubbie> thetechgeek: with gparted. make sure it's not mounted and that you have space around it.
[08:21] <sachrioja> but i cant play any midi
[08:21] <yiga1> thetechgeek: it looks nice and does the job done
[08:22] <Nubbie> !midi > sachrioja
[08:22] <draeath> aldin, as far as what the issue is or how to fix it... cant say Ive ever run FTP
[08:22] <draeath> !midi > draeath
[08:22] <Madpilot> Timeline, it's in the Universe repo - do you have that enabled?
[08:22] <thetechgeek> gparted says it cant
[08:22] <wizard> Nubbie: its still a 0.x.x relesae 0.o
[08:22] <draeath> good o'le timidity
[08:22] <aldin> check this ftp://kapetano.dyndns.org
[08:22] <yiga1> thetechgeek: you have to umount the partition
[08:22] <wizard> Nubbie: iunno if i'd call that a final version yet.
[08:22] <aldin> draeath, samo problem
[08:22] <aldin> should i disable dyndns in router?
[08:22] <muuhBDXi> how do i make a script that parses the ubuntu support foruns for question and randomlly posts them in irc ?
[08:22] <Timeline> Madpilot: I'm on the live CD, how can I find out?
[08:22] <draeath> aldin, no, that isnt the issue
[08:22] <yiga1> techgeek:what partition is it?
[08:22] <thetechgeek> yigal: ???
[08:23] <Nubbie> wizard: is that so... but consider banshee.... 0.12.1 the major release is version 12.
[08:23] <yiga1> yes?
[08:23] <muuhBDXi> shpuld be easy
[08:23] <Madpilot> muuhBDXi, go away. Before I ban you.
[08:23] <Nubbie> madpilot: please do.
[08:23] <draeath> aldin, try 'tracepath IPADDRESS'
[08:23] <yiga1> thetechgeek: yes?
[08:23] <wizard> Nubbie: the way i see it with beryl is its still very infant.. perhaps this is the most stable releases of their betas?? but far from a good final choice...
[08:23] <Nubbie> madpilot: he's a troll, and he's insulted linux users already.
[08:23] <draeath> aldin, it should either do nearly nothing, or go out to your router and back
[08:23] <aldin> draeath,  could u pls connect, ls/dir and make one more dir on this 'ftp kapetano.dyndns.org'
[08:23] <jacobu> Sup homies
[08:23] <Madpilot> Timeline, System->Admin->Software Sources
[08:23] <yiga1> just sudo umount /dev/"what ever it is"
[08:24] <thetechgeek> I am a OS newb and I have no clue what ur talkin about
[08:24] <muuhBDXi> eduardo: can kiss my ass
[08:24] <SteamUser> muuhBDXi !!
[08:24] <Adimanuk> Hi, I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. WHen I start uo ubuntu I need to unplug then plug the bluetooth dongle back in. It's odd because the keyboard and mouse work for a short while, but then stop. Got any ideas?
[08:24] <wizard> !ops
[08:24] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[08:24] <yiga1> thetechgeek: press Alt+F2
[08:24] <Nubbie> thankyou.
[08:24] <wizard> ohh woopsy.
[08:24] <Madpilot> wizard, way ahead of you. :)
[08:24] <wizard> Madpilot: sorryyyy :$
[08:24] <thetechgeek> ok...
[08:24] <aldin> draeath, could u pls connect, ls/dir and make one more dir on this 'ftp kapetano.dyndns.org'
[08:24] <draeath> aldin, drwxr-xr-x   2 ftp      ftp          4096 Apr 15 06:13 thanksdraeth
[08:24] <Nubbie> madpilot: where were you 15 minutes ago :|
[08:25] <draeath> aldin, 257 "/welcome-aldin" - Directory successfully created
[08:25] <Madpilot> Nubbie, giving him enough rope.
[08:25] <yiga1> thetechgeek: type gnome-terminal into the dialogue
[08:25] <Nubbie> madpilot: bleahgh...
[08:25] <aldin> draeath, thx it is working well then..
[08:25] <yiga1> thetechgeek:"gnome-terminal" and then press return
[08:25] <Nubbie> madpilot: like 10 warnings?
[08:25] <SteamUser> hey using wine 9.35 and launching steam I get "fixme:xrender:X11DRV_AlphaBlend not supported - XRENDER headers were missing at compile time" and my fonts don't show.  Any help?
[08:25] <aldin> hmm
[08:25] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: wow, you must have been feeling generous...
[08:25] <thetechgeek> yes, yes
[08:25] <wizard> Hobbsee: ^.^ lol
[08:25] <draeath> speaking of rope... my coworker made a noose out of cat5 and hung his master shake plush... he even made a cardboard gallows.
[08:25] <Nubbie> madpilot: he was offtopic, insulting, and not even using ubuntu.
[08:25] <Madpilot> Nubbie, I gave him two, then asked him to leave. Like I said, enough rope.
[08:26] <Timeline> Madpilot: All I see is software properties under admin.
[08:26] <SteamUser> are bans here perm?
[08:26] <Nubbie> draeath: master shake is king.
[08:26] <wizard> SteamUser: depends on the offender usually.
[08:26] <aldin> draeath, tracepath-> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15748/
[08:26] <SteamUser> he gets?
[08:26] <yiga1> thetechgeek: what name does gparted give to the partition you want to shrink?
[08:26] <Nubbie> madpilot: i'm not second guessing you, i'm just saying if i had ops power he would've been gone at least 10 minutes ago :l
[08:26] <Madpilot> SteamUser, first ban is 24hrs, 2nd 1 week, 3rd perm.
[08:26] <SteamUser> lol my first ban here was 1 month
[08:26] <yiga1> thetechgeek: do you know?
[08:26] <draeath> aldin, hmm, so its not leaving your machine (thats normal)
[08:26] <SteamUser> for saying the s word
[08:27] <wizard> Madpilot: unless of course you are able to talk calmly and rationally to an op and come to even terms about conduct
[08:27] <aldin> draeath, i need to take breakfast now see u later (i hope)
[08:27] <wizard> Madpilot: as I've had to do before.
[08:27] <draeath> SteamUser, not sure I have ever been banned
[08:27] <Nubbie> wow if i got banned for any time i've sworn i would've been perm banned a year ago.
[08:27] <Crazytom> how would i find out how to get unbanned from winehq?  in my defense i was defending ubuntu users
[08:27] <draeath> aldin, bed time for me (gota get up for work in like 6 hours)
[08:27] <aldin> aldin, i aam in Europe (Bosnia)
[08:27] <draeath> aldin, FL, USA
[08:27] <draeath> nice to meet you :D
[08:27] <Hobbsee> Crazytom: ask those ops.  we dont have ops there
[08:27] <aldin> draeath, nevermind thanks a lot for helping me though
[08:27] <Crazytom> i can't get in, i'm banned there
[08:27] <thetechgeek> wait- im in the terminal
[08:27] <draeath> aldin, no problem
[08:27] <draeath> aldin, FYI
[08:27] <aldin> draeath, see u next time perhaps
[08:27] <yiga1> thetechgeek: r u there?
[08:28] <draeath> aldin, long shot but try in #security - bright folks there
[08:28] <Nubbie> crazytom: thats up to them. winehq has nothing to do with #ubuntu.
[08:28] <thetechgeek> how do i get to gparted
[08:28] <aldin> draeath, ok
[08:28] <wizard> thetechgeek: on live cd?
[08:28] <thetechgeek> you said terminal
[08:28] <thetechgeek> yes
[08:28] <Hobbsee> Crazytom: privmsg them
[08:28] <yiga1> thetechgeek: sudo aptitude install gparted
[08:28] <Crazytom> i know it's offtopic i was just wondering if anyone here knew.  thanks anyway
[08:28] <yiga1> thetechgeek: that into the terminal - did the terminal open?
[08:28] <wizard> thetechgeek: system > administration > gnome partition manager
[08:28] <Crazytom> can you do that from one channel to another?
[08:28] <Nubbie> yiga1: gparted is installed by default...
[08:28] <thetechgeek> yes
[08:28] <draeath> Crazytom, no but I can ask for you...
[08:29] <yiga1> thetechgeek: ok then type " sudo gparted" instead
[08:29] <Crazytom> i would appreciate that
[08:29] <SteamUser> Crazytom defending ubuntu users?
[08:29] <wdr1_> how can i disable esd from starting?
[08:29] <crimsun> wizard: what question?
[08:29] <wdr1_> !esd
[08:29] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[08:29] <Crazytom> i could go into what was said if you want
[08:29] <thetechgeek> ok...
[08:29] <wdr1_> !alsa
[08:29] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:29] <wizard> crimsun: how come i don't have any tone (bass and trebble) controls? :-(
[08:29] <draeath> the less I know the better in this case, Crazytom
[08:29] <SteamUser> not needed
[08:29] <yiga1> thetechgeek: r u ok?
[08:29] <Crazytom> yeah
[08:30] <thetechgeek> i said im in
[08:30] <Nubbie> crazytom: it doesn't matter what you did to get banned, or what you did involving ubuntu users, but #ubuntu has nothing to do with winehq, and you need to work it out with them.
[08:30] <yiga1> thetechgeek: awesome
[08:30] <Crazytom> Nubbie, i realise that
[08:30] <crimsun> wizard: because they're not in the code.
[08:30] <draeath> Nubbie, well, he cant get in to find out, so he just went somewhere where he could find help :)
[08:30] <wizard> crimsun: no way to get them eh?
[08:30] <Nubbie> crazytom: so what do you want us to do?
[08:30] <draeath> Crazytom, waiting on a response
[08:30] <crimsun> wizard: not unless you update to the current code, no.
[08:30] <draeath> Nubbie, all he needed was a proxy to ask for him :P
[08:30] <yiga1> thetechgeek: now is it a flash disk or a hard drive how is the fat drive connected to the computer?
[08:30] <Crazytom> Nubbie, draeath is taking care of it
[08:30] <Nubbie> lol.
[08:30] <wizard> crimsun: well as we've discovered that quite doesn't work for me lol
[08:31] <wizard> crimsun: so i may just be ona bad boat
[08:31] <wizard> crimsun: it works now.. but not so good
[08:31] <robinlinth> Is it safe to remove totem-mozilla? I mean, it uninstalls ubuntu-desktop which causes problems with the upgrade to Feisty.
[08:31] <Nubbie> crazytom: i'm just curious, but what did you do to get banned?
[08:31] <Timeline> Madpilot: Got it, clamav is installing
[08:31] <Timeline> Madpilot: thanks
[08:31] <Nubbie> timeline: sorry i wasn't paying attention to help you with that, i apologize.
[08:31] <Madpilot> Timeline, glad you got it sorted - sorry, your question kind of got lost in the shuffle there!
[08:31] <dadan_x> i have a problem regarding installation of xubuntu. At certain moment when Xubuntu should start from the live cd my monitor starts to blink (as it would autost the screen resolution) then is stops at the default (and empty) blue screen of Xfce, i tryed to start also with ubuntu then the same thing happended just the color of the screen was ubuntu's light brown. computer: pIII 224 ram. Any ideas?
[08:32] <robinlinth> dadan_x, #xubuntu
[08:32] <dadan_x> yes
[08:32] <Nubbie> timeline: make sure your windows partition is mounted, and direct the scanner to the directory that it's mounted to. also i suggest you install freshclam, to make sure that the virus definitions are up to date.
[08:32] <dadan_x> but the same thin happens with ubuntu
[08:32] <wizard> robinlinth: he said it also happens in ubuntu
[08:32] <dadan_x> and in the xubuntu channel nobody answers
[08:32] <wizard> robinlinth: sooo the problem goes beyond xfce at this point
[08:32] <yiga1> dadan_x: you have a minimal comp. for ubuntu
[08:33] <draeath> whois Crazytom
[08:33] <wizard> dadan_x: have you let it sit for some time and seen if it progresses?
[08:33] <robinlinth> wizard, alright
[08:33] <yiga1> yigal: dadan_x can you swtich to a virtual terminal?
[08:33] <dadan_x> no progress
[08:33] <dadan_x> no
[08:33] <orbin> !ubuntu-desktop | robinlinth
[08:33] <ubotu> robinlinth: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[08:33] <Crazytom> Nubbie, check your privs
[08:33] <Crazytom> draeath, whois?
[08:33] <yiga1> dadan_x: are you installing or using the live cd?
[08:33] <Nubbie> crazytom: i'm following you.
[08:33] <thetechgeek> still trying to resize...
[08:34] <Nubbie> crazytom: i'm registered.
[08:34] <draeath> Crazytom, i was getting the hostname such if needed
[08:34] <yiga1> dadan_x: if you install you can use single user mode to work with X from the command line
[08:34] <orbin> kernel update broke my system.  how would i go about ficing this?  i've booted into an old kernel for now.
[08:34] <dadan_x> i tried with live cd, and after that with the alternate cd
[08:34] <thetechgeek> humph
[08:34] <yiga1> dadan_x: use alternative, install and use the terminal
[08:34] <Nubbie> orbin: you're one of the unlucky ones?
[08:34] <_ecto_> heh, I installed ubuntu-desktop on ubuntu server, and I was surprised at how well that worked...
[08:34] <Nubbie> orbin: running feisty?
[08:34] <yiga1> dadan_x: I think it is a ram issue, although I don't your graphics card
[08:35] <yiga1> dadan_x: what is your graphics card?
[08:35] <Nubbie> orbin: if you're running feisty, the kernel issue has been resolved as far as i know. upgrade your system and reconfigure grub.
[08:35] <dadan_x> i think it has 64 ram
[08:35] <dadan_x> the graphics cars
[08:35] <yiga1> dadan_x: so its enough
[08:35] <dadan_x> so u suggest to try with another card?
[08:35] <thetechgeek> yigal: you there?
[08:35] <Crazytom> Nubbie, i've been using linux on and off for 5 or 6 years now but i don't know how to do alot of arguable simple stuff.  like recompile and i can never get that d^&n cp command to work right
[08:35] <yiga1> dadan_x: NO
[08:35] <orbin> Nubbie: no, i'm running edgy. the upgrade to 2.6.17.1-11.37 borked it
[08:35] <yiga1> thetechgeek: ues
[08:35] <yiga1> thetechgeek:yes
[08:35] <thetechgeek> how long should this take?
[08:36] <wizard> yiga1: i've had it happen once before with what appeared to be just a bad cd-rom drive.
[08:36] <Timeline> Nubbie: How do i get freshclam to run?
[08:36] <yiga1> dadan_x: I suggest using alternative install then use single user mode
[08:36] <yiga1> thetechgeek: what are you trying to do?
[08:36] <dadan_x> yiga: and how do to that?
[08:36] <Nubbie> crazytom: as a desktop user you shouldn't have to know how.
[08:36] <yiga1> dadan_x: just install like you normally would
[08:36] <dadan_x> i'm newbie
[08:36] <TimonUbuntu> Wow, i didn't think there would be so many users in here :D
[08:36] <thetechgeek> resize the main ntfs partition by -5 gig
[08:37] <yiga1> dadan_x: when it restarts and you see grub there are 2 options either single user of the normal
[08:37] <Nubbie> Timeline: i'm not quite sure, as i don't need a virus scanner.
[08:37] <Nubbie> timeline: let me check for you.
[08:37] <draeath> Crazytom, no response...
[08:37] <yiga1> thetechgeek: great so that should be probably /dev/hda
[08:37] <rellik> is there a way to scroll up in screen?
[08:37] <thetechgeek> ahh, never mind, It worked omg!!!!
[08:37] <dadan_x> yiga1: but it does not even restart
[08:37] <Adimanuk> hello?
[08:37] <Nubbie> timeline: try sudo freshclam, i think that's all you need.
[08:37] <yiga1> thetechgeek: awesome
[08:38] <Nubbie> thetechgeek: you expected it not to? :l
[08:38] <yiga1> dadan_x: you want to install without graphics
[08:38] <navreet> anyone know how I can have gaim's icon flash when someone sends me an IM?
[08:38] <navreet> just like gaim
[08:38] <yiga1> dadan_x: you have tried in non-graphical mode?
[08:38] <thetechgeek> the last 4 times i tried it it didnt!!!
[08:38] <wizard> navreet: right click the icon tell it flash on new message
[08:38] <dadan_x> yes
[08:38] <yiga1> thetechgeek: its working now ?
[08:38] <dadan_x> the it sais that teh cd is not good
[08:38] <Nubbie> navreet: yes i believe it is in a plugin.
[08:38] <mafu> Does anybody know of a good feed reader for Gnome?
[08:38] <thetechgeek> yup tyvm!
[08:38] <thetechgeek> ttyl
[08:39] <dadan_x> but it's good, at the begining i checked it!
[08:39] <Nubbie> navreet: i have my gaim doing that, i just can't remember how.
[08:39] <draeath> Crazytom, if you cant get to them try posting in http://groups.google.com/group/comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine/topics
[08:39] <wizard> navreet: or if you're on an older version the plugin needs to be used
[08:39] <draeath> Crazytom, thats the official 'forum'
[08:39] <wizard> Nubbie: in beta 6 its just by right clicking
[08:39] <TimonUbuntu> To scroll up shift-pgup
[08:39] <yiga1> dadan_x: I am sorry I don't have enough information
[08:39] <yiga1> thetechgeek: how is it going
[08:39] <wizard> navreet: okay here we go
[08:39] <dadan_x> yes i see
[08:39] <Nubbie> navreet: are you running feisty?
[08:39] <dadan_x> so i'll try with nongraphical mode
[08:39] <dadan_x> once again
[08:39] <wizard> go to tools > plugins and scrool to > system tray icon. Click configure and the option is there
[08:40] <yiga1> dadan_x: I would try xubunu, they are used to dealing with a minimal set up like the one u have
[08:40] <yiga1> dadan_x: #xubuntu
[08:40] <dadan_x> thanx
[08:40] <jason_> hey, i just started using Ubuntu. Can someone help get my Audio to work?
[08:40] <yiga1> jason_: are you using GNOME?
[08:40] <Nubbie> yiga1: he's tried, but #xubuntu isn't very active.
[08:40] <yiga1> jason_: of course you are :)
[08:41] <Nubbie> jason_: just ask the question.
[08:41] <jason_> no im not using it
[08:41] <jason_> im using kubuntu
[08:41] <wizard> Nubbie: not many things are very active on xfce :-P
[08:41] <yiga1> jason_: the top right corner should have a sound icon in the gnome-panel yes?
[08:41] <Nubbie> wizard: shhh! they might be offended.
[08:41] <jason_> yes
[08:41] <yiga1> Nubble: thanks, too bad
[08:41] <wizard> Nubbie: it tried to kill me once, so i don't get along with it well lol
[08:42] <jason_> yigal, how do i whisper in irc?
[08:42] <Geoffrey2> is there anyone in here that can walk me through using mke2fs?
[08:42] <yiga1> jason_: ok I want you to click with you right mouse button and select "open volume control"
[08:42] <gryph76> has anyone here tried doing much networking with feisty? specifically getting it set up so that shared folders can be accessed over the network at a reasonable speed?
[08:42] <yiga1> jason_: I am sorry I am not so used to irc either?
[08:42] <Nubbie> wizard: personally i prefer either a really rich environment, or a really basic environment, xfce being in the middle just doesn't make sense.
[08:42] <wizard> i think he said hes on kde guys
[08:42] <TimonUbuntu> Can anybody please recommend a good firewall?
[08:43] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, man iptables
[08:43] <scottam> geoffrey2: what are you trying to do?
[08:43] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, built-in
[08:43] <TimonUbuntu> cheers
[08:43] <wizard> jason_: you're on kde right?
[08:43] <gryph76> right now I don't care if it's done with smb or nfs, but the first would be easier as there are windows pc's on my home network
[08:43] <yiga1> Nubbie: I totally agree about the window manager I use dwm or GNOME
[08:43] <jason_> yeah, yigal let me register IRC so i can whisper
[08:43] <jason_> brb
[08:43] <musya> whats a good program for radios online or video radios? like winamp
[08:43] <yiga1> jason_: great
[08:43] <navreet> Nubbie, no
[08:44] <navreet> wizard, it is configured correctly... or seems to be, it still doesn't blink
[08:44] <budluva> musya: i belive you can use xmms
[08:44] <Nubbie> navreet: then you probably aren't running gaim 2.00beta6. it's in the plugins somewhere, just dig around.
[08:44] <Spee_Der> musya, try xmms
[08:44] <wizard> navreet: is the chat window in focus? cos it wont of it is
[08:44] <Adimanuk> I fixed it, I just turned off the bluetooth management, for anybody interested :)
[08:44] <Geoffrey2> scottam, I've got an old laptop I'm trying to install Linux onto...the instructions say I'm supposed to use fdisk and mke2fs to create a linux partition, mount the partition at /hd, then run the installation program
[08:44] <navreet> Nubbie, yeah, i found it
[08:44] <navreet> wizard, no it's not
[08:44] <wizard> odd. you can always try to upgrade to the latest beta
[08:45] <Nubbie> navreet: k i guess you solved your own problem then :) if only more people were like you :D
[08:45] <yiga1> musya: try amarok you will like it
[08:45] <wizard> that ones on the house too :-P
[08:45] <navreet> Nubbie, er... no, I didn't solve it... wiwzard helped me find the option (which is configured correctly, but doesn't work)
[08:45] <Nubbie> beta6 is much more polished IMO. especially with regards to buddy pictures etc.
[08:45] <scottam> geoffrey2: so are you asking what command to use to format a partition ext3, or something else?
[08:46] <wizard> navreet: i'd upgrade to beta 6 and see if its fixed there
[08:46] <budluva> anyone here familiar with tovid?
[08:46] <yiga1> who uses fdisk to partition there drives?
[08:46] <TimonUbuntu> draeath , what sort of set up does iptables have as default? does it filter troublesome/high risk ports by default?
[08:46] <wizard> the version of gaim that shipped with ubuntu out of teh box was an interesting one... way too early for a beta in my humble.
[08:46] <Nubbie> navreet: oh my bad. update to the latest gaim. it will be available right clicking the notification icon, just as wizard stated.
[08:46] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, completely open by default
[08:46] <idnz01> hi i am having some trouble getting python to work with apache under ubuntu
[08:46] <navreet> Nubbie, can I easily do it with edgy?
[08:46] <yiga1> on the issue of irc clients does anyone have a command line client they use?
[08:46] <TimonUbuntu> draeath thanks mate. i'm reading the man pages now
[08:46] <idnz01> i follow the guid here: http://robrohan.com/2006/10/01/howto-setup-python-for-web-development-on-ubuntu/
[08:47] <wizard> navreet: you'll likely need to add a repo to your sources.lst
[08:47] <Geoffrey2> well, I'm not sure if I'm doing this correctly at all....I use fdisk to create a partition, use mke2fs to, I believe, format it as an ext2...but when I go back into fdisk to look at it, fdisk complains there are no partitions....
[08:47] <idnz01> but whenever I go to one of my python pages it just opens up the script in my notepad editor, it doesnt execute it
[08:47] <yiga1> idnz01: that sounds really cool
[08:47] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Firewall-HOWTO.html
[08:47] <TimonUbuntu> my gaim won't even send messages. I can recieve messages but nobody can recieve mine
[08:47] <navreet> wizard, nm, i found the message notification plugin... thnx Nubbie! =] 
[08:47] <navreet> wizard, that's what I needed
[08:47] <wizard> variant: http://my.opera.com/pingouin_man/blog/2007/01/21/gaim-2-0-beta-6-for-ubuntu-6-10-edgy-ef
[08:47] <wizard> navreet: oh okay
[08:47] <TimonUbuntu> draeath Thanks, checking it out now
[08:47] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, much better than what I could do. I actually don't have firewalls inside my network
[08:48] <jason_> can someone help me register to irc?
[08:48] <wizard> navreet: the latest beta is still much nicer though if u wanna up anyway
[08:48] <jasonmarcell> My ubuntu will no longer login and I have x-session-manager: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.2: cannot read file data: Invalid argument
[08:48] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, wait, that doc is old
[08:48] <TimonUbuntu> draeath , I've got a moderately tight firewall on my router, should that be enough?
[08:48] <ardchoille> !register | jason_
[08:48] <ubotu> jason_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:48] <Nubbie> navreet: http://rpm.rutgers.edu/repository/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gaim/gaim_2.0.0+beta6-1ubuntu4_i386.deb
[08:48] <scottam> geoffrey2: if your device is /dev/hda are you using "mke2fs /dev/hda" or "mke2fs /dev/hda1"?
[08:48] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html
[08:49] <Nubbie> navreet: it's safe to install on dapper/edgy/ whatever you're using.
[08:49] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, as tight as you can get it. Make sure you cant reconfigure the router from the internet.
[08:49] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, wireless?
[08:49] <Nubbie> navreet: i went fishing for you :)
[08:49] <orbin> yiga1: irssi is popular
[08:49] <TimonUbuntu> draeath yes, wireless
[08:49] <navreet> Nubbie, thanks
[08:49] <TimonUbuntu> draeath, i had some problems getting it perfected with ubuntu, but all is good now
[08:49] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, make sure you are using WPA (WEP might as well be nothing, if you are keeping attackers out)
[08:49] <yiga1> orbin: ty, tried setting up irssi: it was  a challenge but maybe worth it there is nothing like using screen + mutt + mpd/xmms2 etc. in the command line
[08:50] <Nubbie> TimonUbuntu: wep can be cracked in like 10 seconds now.
[08:50] <TimonUbuntu> draeath , i know what you mean, it takes about 20 minutes to crack WEP now
[08:50] <Geoffrey2> scottam, ok, starting from step 1...I need to create at least one partition, probably more, in fdisk....
[08:50] <Crazytom> Nubbie, what?
[08:50] <yiga1> WEP sucks
[08:50] <Crazytom> Nubbie, how is that?
[08:50] <Nubbie> i heard 10 seconds... could've been bull, but i dunno.
[08:50] <Nubbie> still, 10 minutes is no time.
[08:50] <yiga1> WEP is like a glass door thats locked
[08:50] <TimonUbuntu> draeath , I had a look at aircrack-ng , unfortunately i couldnt see how long it took because my wifi drivers dont support injection as yet
[08:51] <Geoffrey2> scottam, by the way, I'm installing what's basically a stripped down version of slackware, in case that changes anything
[08:51] <Crazytom> no it's half the time but you still need 45000 packets which takes awhile to connect
[08:51] <wizard> yiga1: and as the zombie survival guide has taught us...
[08:51] <TimonUbuntu> Nubbie , I know, it's crazy
[08:51] <Crazytom> *collect
[08:51] <wizard> glass wont protect against a zombie horde!
[08:51] <Nubbie> i wouldn't give advice on stealing somebody's wifi in a channel like this.
[08:51] <yiga1> wizard: :)
[08:51] <jason_> ahhh! im so lost, someone help me register a nick to irc so i can whisper.
[08:51] <ardchoille> !register | jason_
[08:51] <ubotu> jason_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:51] <wizard> yiga1: even reenforced glass :-P your best bet is to find refuge in a place with little glass!!! okay im done with offtopics lol
[08:51] <draeath> Crazytom, not too hard to drop a laptop with an atheros card in mornitor mode in a hidaway in range...
[08:51] <TimonUbuntu> Nubbie , true, its not like anybody can't google it in 10 minutes now though. i think i'll just stick with WPA :D
[08:52] <yiga1> jason_: don't worry about it
[08:52] <draeath> Crazytom, if you are that dedicated..
[08:52] <Nubbie> wizard: the glass may be 2 feet thick, in which case GOOD LUCK buddy ;)
[08:52] <icicled> does anyone know any website that is geared towards programming on *nix systems, kinda like an alternative for http://codeprojects.com/ ?
[08:52] <Crazytom> draeath, you can actually use a wpa54g
[08:52] <scottam> geoffrey2: most installers (like ubuntu) will do things themselves, and different distros suggest doing different things, can you send me a link to the instructions so I can see what you're trying to understad
[08:52] <wizard> Nubbie: ever read teh book?
[08:52] <yiga1> Nubbie: or shatter proof
[08:52] <Nubbie> icicled: sourceforge!!!
[08:52] <draeath> Crazytom, i have a netgear WG511T (that happens to have an atheros) - infinite fun!
[08:52] <icicled> Nubbie, emm, that doesn't count, it's more of a repo. :P
[08:52] <ardchoille> !offtopic | Nubbie wizard
[08:52] <ubotu> Nubbie wizard: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:53] <jasonmarcell> My ubuntu will no longer login and I have "x-session-manager: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.2: cannot read file data: Invalid argument" in my .xsession-errors. I am now logged into failsafe terminal mode and I'd like to restore that file if possible using apt-get from local cache or the CD without having it go and reinstall *all* dependancies. Is this possible?
[08:53] <yiga1> what about WPA vs. WPA2?
[08:53] <Nubbie> wizard: i'm not too concerened about wifi safety, as my computer is wired, and my wifi in the house is WPA2 secured.
[08:53] <draeath> yiga1, wpa2 has stronger encryption (AES vs TKIP)
[08:53] <Crazytom> draeath, the bcm4306 will work now too kismet works great on mine
[08:53] <Nubbie> ardchoille: i believe we are on topic, this gentleman is asking about security in ubuntu with wireless connections :l
[08:54] <wizard> Nubbie: i live in the middle of nowhere so unless deer have laptops i simply don't care
[08:54] <yiga1> draeath: yes but its a matter of the right driver to get wpa2 up, I am using serial monkey for wpa can't seem to get wpa2 to work and am wondering if it is worth it
[08:54] <draeath> yiga1, just change your key every week or two
[08:54] <Timeline> Nubbie: Says "can't phrase the config file /etc/clamav/clamamd.conf"
[08:54] <TimonUbuntu> I live in australia, a bit out of the way, i'm not too worried about anybody hacking my wep at the moment, but is Ubuntu hard to set up for WPA? is it hardware dependant?
[08:54] <pcollins> jasonmarcell, try deleting your .xsession-errors file
[08:54] <pcollins> just a thought
[08:54] <ShowTime> how i can open file with gedit with terminal?
[08:55] <Timeline> Nubbie: sorry that's "can't parse"
[08:55] <Nubbie> timeline: wow you're having a bad go at this... can you please pastebin the terminal output? maybe somebody can help you further.
[08:55] <yiga1> draeath: the method's in action, good less work to make it work then
[08:55] <icicled> TimonUbuntu, you can use wifi-radar which has an option for wpa
[08:55] <jasonmarcell> pcollins: and then what?
[08:55] <yiga1> TimonUbuntu: only if you know the key
[08:55] <Nubbie> timonubuntu: use wpasupplicant.
[08:55] <icicled> TimonUbuntu, the good thing about wifi-radar is that it also runs as a daemon so it will connect to what it can automagically upon bootup
[08:55] <TimonUbuntu> icicled last time i tried wifi-radar it wouldn't let me connect at all, and seemed to cut off network-manager
[08:55] <pcollins> jasonmarcell, then try again (reboot or whatever)
[08:55] <Timeline> Nubbie: I am unsure how to pastebin
[08:55] <yiga1> TimonUbuntu: WifiRadar is my friend
[08:55] <icicled> network-manager is broke, it doesn't support any extra options
[08:55] <jasonmarcell> pcollins: k
[08:55] <Nubbie> !paste | timeline
[08:55] <ubotu> timeline: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:56] <TimonUbuntu> I will give it another shot
[08:56] <Nubbie> use that link, and copy the output of your terminal in there.
[08:56] <draeath> all I need is a cantenna on a gimble attached to a scanning program :P
[08:56] <Crazytom> if you have data that is so sensitive you think someone will invest hours of time hacking into your wireless then go with wpa.  i personally feel fine using wep or just leaving mine open.  i changed the password and the ssid though among other things
[08:56] <Nubbie> timeline, then return to us with the link to your post.
[08:56] <TimonUbuntu> does wifi-radar give you a panel applet?
[08:56] <yiga1> Crazytom: you have apoint and plus if you isntall a firewall
[08:56] <icicled> i don't believe it does
[08:56] <Nubbie> crazytom: all of your data should be sensitive, as most of it is private.
[08:57] <draeath> Crazytom, only way into my router is to tunnle SSH into it first... no password, you have to have my PGP key and passphrase to unlock that.
[08:57] <TimonUbuntu> Crazytom , people can still leech your internet
[08:57] <icicled> but there are other applets which let you check on signal strength, etc
[08:57] <Crazytom> wep and firewall are two different directions people can come from
[08:57] <yiga1> Crazytorn: but then there is the quote "only the paranoid survive" :)
[08:57] <Geoffrey2> scottam, ok, now...I used fdisk to create two primary partitions, they are /dev/hda1p1, and /dev/hda1p2
[08:57] <yiga1> Geoffrey2: right on your using fdisk
[08:57] <Crazytom> TimonUbuntu, i don't really care
[08:57] <Nubbie> crazytom: around toronto here, creepers and pedophiles steal people's wifi to commit crimes, and guess whose door the police knock on the next day?
[08:57] <Geoffrey2> p1 is Linux, p2 is Linux Swap
[08:57] <Crazytom> TimonUbuntu, about people borrowing internet
[08:58] <Nubbie> crazytom: you should be very concerned about security.
[08:58] <thetechgeek> yigal u there?
[08:58] <TimonUbuntu> Crazytom, no worries then :D
[08:58] <yiga1> thetechgeek: of course
[08:58] <scottam> geoffrey2: did you fdisk /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda?
[08:58] <TimonUbuntu> Are there any packages that conflict with wifi radar
[08:58] <Crazytom> my wep key is my phone number
[08:58] <thetechgeek> Okay dont have much time but on install got error msg:
[08:58] <thetechgeek> ________________________________
[08:58] <yiga1> TimonUbuntu: no, except maybe your firewall
[08:58] <Nubbie> TimonUbuntu: try installing it to find out.
[08:58] <Crazytom> there now everyone know it
[08:58] <Geoffrey2> fdisk /dev/hda1 is what I used
[08:58] <Nubbie> crazytom: thats very unwise.
[08:58] <Jason_> ok my question. I just installed Kibuntu and my audio drivers are present, but the sound is not actually working. can someone help me?
[08:58] <wizard> odd
[08:59] <scottam> geoffrey2: /dev/hda is the device, /dev/hda1 is the first partition, i think /dev/hda1p1 is bad
[08:59] <TimonUbuntu> i remember why i uninstalled it now
[08:59] <TimonUbuntu> the edit button on wifi radar won't work
[08:59] <draeath> if I add "/home    *(rw,sync,no_root_squash)" to /etc/exports does the user still need to authenticate first?
[08:59] <Crazytom> anyone know my phone number here?
[08:59] <thetechgeek> test of file system with type fat 16 in partition #1 of ide 2 master (hdc) found uncorrected errors
[08:59] <thetechgeek> ___________________________________
[08:59] <thetechgeek> ???
[08:59] <Geoffrey2> scottam....you'd never guess I'm still new to Linux, would you? :)
[08:59] <Nubbie> TimonUbuntu: perhaps it needs root privileges to use the edit thing.
[08:59] <yiga1> jason_: go to #kubuntu?
[08:59] <scottam> geoffrey2: when you run fdisk you want to do it to /dev/hda not /dev/hda1
[09:00] <TimonUbuntu> Nubbie how do i give it root privelages
[09:00] <thetechgeek> yigal?
[09:00] <Nubbie> thetechgeek: you're using fat16 WHY? lol.
[09:00] <yiga1> geoffrey2: otherwise it won't work
[09:00] <scottam> geoffrey2:  ::shrug:: we were all new once
[09:00] <wizard> this is weird
[09:00] <pcollins> Jason_, what happens when you run 'alsamixer' from the command line?
[09:00] <thetechgeek> This is my sisters 5 year old laptop
[09:00] <Nubbie> TimonUbuntu: sudo wifi-radar? i dunno i don't use wifi radar, and it was only a guess.
[09:00] <yiga1> thetechgeek: yes what is it
[09:00] <Timeline> Nubbie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15752/
[09:00] <Geoffrey2> scottam, so basically I was trying to place a primary partition inside a primary partition..... :)
[09:00] <TimonUbuntu> Nubbie i'll check it out
[09:00] <thetechgeek> thats y im using ubuntu in the first place
[09:00] <thetechgeek> yigal-
[09:01] <Jason_> alsamixer?
[09:01] <yiga1> TimonUbuntu: why aren't you using wireless-tools
[09:01] <scottam> geoffrey: yes
[09:01] <Nubbie> thetechgeek: you should definitely not be using fat16 for anything.
[09:01] <thetechgeek> posted error message above
[09:01] <pcollins> Jason_, yeah, it's a text-mode sound configurater thingy
[09:01] <scottam> geoffrey2: then when you run mke2fs you should do it to /dev/hda1
[09:01] <TimonUbuntu> yigal , i just set it up manually using iwconfig
[09:01] <ShowTime> i cant listen music. what i should download?
[09:01] <Geoffrey2> nah, use fat12....live a bit :)
[09:01] <thetechgeek> yigal-
[09:01] <draeath> Crazytom, http://www.whitepages.com/10001/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=chris&name=babcock&city_zip=&state_id=FL&default_listing=phone&localtime=survey
[09:01] <Jason_> where do i get this?
[09:02] <draeath> Crazytom, hope your not listed!!!
[09:02] <Nubbie> !mp3 > shotime
[09:02] <yiga1> thetechgeek: yes I just saw
[09:02] <Nubbie> damnit
[09:02] <Nubbie> !mp3 > showtime
[09:02] <yiga1> thetechgeek: can you repartition the whole thing?
[09:02] <thetechgeek> ???
[09:02] <ShowTime> thx
[09:02] <yiga1> thetechgeek: ok do you have a live cd?
[09:02] <thetechgeek> ya
[09:02] <pcollins> Jason_, open up the 'Terminal' application via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[09:03] <TimonUbuntu> where can i find wireless-tools
[09:03] <Timeline> Nubbie: just noticed that it does say something about errors in the clam install
[09:03] <TimonUbuntu> i have the package installed
[09:03] <yiga1> thetechgeek: you can boot from that and try to repair the main hd
[09:03] <pcollins> then type 'alsamixer' (without the quotes!) and hit enter
[09:03] <ShowTime> where i can see what i can get with apt-get? I mean what packets
[09:03] <draeath> Crazytom, did I get you in the right state and name?
[09:03] <Timeline> Nubbie: That should be in the pastebin
[09:03] <Nubbie> timeline: ohhh maybe it needs clam to be running for it to work.
[09:03] <yiga1> thetechgeek: using fschk
[09:03] <thetechgeek> fat 16 isnt the main hard drive i have no clue what it does
[09:03] <thetechgeek> the main is ntfs
[09:03] <Nubbie> timeline: try running sudo /etc/init.d/clam start
[09:03] <pcollins> actually the quotes don't matter :-)
[09:04] <thetechgeek> main partition i mean
[09:04] <Nubbie> timeline: or it might be clamav start, i'm not sure.
[09:04] <yiga1> thetechgeek: r u using a live cd now?
[09:04] <zaphands> Hello. What's the easiest program to send E-mails (with attachments) from the command line?
[09:04] <thetechgeek> ya
[09:04] <Jason_> in applications, i do not see an Accessories icon?
[09:04] <draeath> thetechgeek, its probably something to do with a recovery partition from dell/hp/whoever
[09:04] <thetechgeek> in english, plz
[09:04] <Nubbie> zaphands: i think evolution can be used from the command line, and it is already installed. read it's manpage.
[09:05] <yiga1> thetechgeek: I will try
[09:05] <draeath> thetechgeek, a leftover from venders being too lazy/cheap to give you restore disks and putting them on the drive instead
[09:05] <zaphands> Thanks!
[09:05] <aa^way> yo, i downloaded java by "sudo apt-get install java-package" and java works in browsers and in terminal i use "java" for running applications, but seems like i cant use javac, witch package i need and can i get it from ubuntu ? like s udo apt-get install javac
[09:05] <thetechgeek> so can i just click continue w/o ne thing messing up?
[09:05] <pcollins> Jason_, did you click on the Application menu item on the menu bar?
[09:05] <thetechgeek> got 9 min of battery...
[09:05] <TimonUbuntu> does anybody know why wifi-radar edit button does nothing?
[09:06] <thetechgeek> i have restore cds
[09:06] <ShowTime> where i can see what i can get with apt-get? I mean what packets
[09:06] <thetechgeek> ??
[09:06] <pcollins> like the "Start" buttin in windows
[09:06] <Nubbie> dreath: but why fat16 :o it baffles my mind. i would think a restore partition is pretty important, so it should at least be journaled.
[09:06] <draeath> thetechgeek, so mount the fat16 and look in it... see whats there
[09:06] <aa^way> ShowTime open terminal and type sudo apt-get list
[09:06] <ShowTime> thank's
[09:06] <aa^way> wait nvm
[09:06] <thetechgeek> yigal?
[09:06] <draeath> Nubbie, fat16 and small, just enough to boot up to something else. think /boot for windows
[09:06] <thetechgeek> ...
[09:06] <scottam> showtime: you can also use synaptic package manager
[09:07] <Timeline> Nubbie: Both command not found
[09:07] <Nubbie> draeath: $5 says his vendor has been spying on him using that partition :)
[09:07] <Jason_> where do i go for that? sorry im nub :[
[09:07] <pcollins> no worries
[09:07] <mojojojo_> where is the place in Ubuntu where I can configure trackball???
[09:07] <draeath> I gota go. I got to work in 5 hours! MUST SLEEP
[09:07] <ShowTime> scottam where i can download it? It's program?
[09:07] <mojojojo_> is there any, at all?
[09:07] <scottam> draeath: sleep is for the week
[09:08] <zaphands> evolution doesn't seem to have that option. Any other command line E-mail senders?
[09:08] <thetechgeek> ill be back sometime i have no battery bye
[09:08] <draeath> scottam, after spending all last night up, and waking up with a slight hangover from a wedding party? ick.
[09:08] <mojojojo_> ?
[09:08] <Nubbie> timeline: i'm sorry i really can't help you anymore with clam. try to get it started, or restart your computer and try the freshclam again. and if you still have problems, try to track down somebody using clamav. i think they may even have an irc channel you could try.
[09:08] <pcollins> anybody know how to get to the "Applications" menu bar on a default Kubuntu install for Jason_
[09:08] <evilsherpa> im off you guys, thanks for all the help
[09:08] <thetechgeek> ...
[09:08] <scottam> showtime: first see if it's already installed, the name from the command line is just synaptic
[09:09] <Timeline> Nubbie: ugh, ok thanks for trying
[09:09] <Nubbie> zaphands: try google, as i think most people here aren't using a command line email program. you wouldn't be sending out spam to unwitting folks now would you :|
[09:09] <Nubbie> timeline: clamav does work, i used <-- to use it.
[09:09] <scottam> showtime: you might be able to find it in the GUI under system -> something, but i don't know exactly where, so my help will be for the CLI
[09:09] <draeath> zaphands, mutt or pine
[09:09] <pcollins> Jason_ maybe you'll have more success on the kubuntu channel
[09:09] <zaphands> of course not. I have split a big file and I want to send all it's parts in a script.
[09:10] <Nubbie> timeline: i even tested it by downloading a fake demo virus to test it with, and it was detected and quaruntined with clam.
[09:10] <Crazytom> draeath, ok i see how you got my name but how did you get fl?  just cause i said it?
[09:10] <mjbrooks> zaphands, mail
[09:10] <Jason_> i wish that were true, but no one responds in that channel
[09:10] <ShowTime> scottam: when i type: sudo apt-get list it says there is no that command
[09:10] <zaphands> mjbrooks: can mail get mail off my computer?
[09:10] <jmega> im trying to access my windows shares. I have samba installed. I can see the shares from my other windows box but I cant access them from ubuntu. It tells me: The folder contents could not be displayed
[09:11] <Timeline> Nubbie: Cool. Just wish I could get it working, I thought it would be a great way to scan dead Windows drives
[09:11] <mjbrooks> zaphands, mail will mail mail  ;)
[09:11] <Nubbie> zaphands: you could always drag/drop them all using evolution.
[09:11] <scottam> showtime: that's true....does "synaptic" run?
[09:11] <mjbrooks> zaphands, from the comand line
[09:11] <Nubbie> jmega: you need to have a user account on your windows box to log into via samba with.
[09:11] <ShowTime> scottam: root@dominik-desktop:~# synaptic
[09:11] <ShowTime> (synaptic:5383): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:12] <devidos> I am running Ubuntu LTS 6.06, is it possible to upgrade to a PHP package above 5.1.2? appreciated...
[09:12] <zaphands> Nubbie: That's hundreds of 25MB files... I can't send them all in one E-mail.
[09:12] <kjol> t
[09:12] <scottam> showtime: so it exists, but it can't access X11
[09:12] <Nubbie> jmega: for example, if you have a user named userx on your windows box, accessing the samba shares you would log in with userx and userxs's password.
[09:12] <zaphands> what package should be installed for mail?
[09:12] <Nubbie> zaphands: i see :)
[09:12] <Nubbie> zaphands: mail is already installed ;)
[09:12] <ShowTime> scottam: how to get it work?
[09:12] <mjbrooks> zaphands, lemme loo
[09:13] <pcollins> Jason try system tools -> konsole
[09:13] <scottam> showtime: are you SSHed in or something?
[09:13] <Nubbie> eww KDE :o
[09:13] <zaphands> It's not installed on my system
[09:13] <ShowTime> scottam: what is this? :s
[09:13] <yiga1> Nubbie: what is your beef with KDE?
[09:13] <weelove> a chat..
[09:14] <weelove> xD
[09:14] <czr> any idea why system boot would stop in usplash and never continue to kdm? (removing the splash parameter from kernel command line in grub will result in display manager starting just fine)
[09:14] <Nubbie> kde is ugly and runs QT.
[09:14] <mjbrooks> zaphands, mailx
[09:14] <scottam> showtime: huh?
[09:14] <mjbrooks> zaphands, mailx is the package
[09:14] <zaphands> mjbrooks: Thanks
[09:14] <crimsun> wizard_: btw, we've resolved your feisty audio issue.
[09:14] <yiga1> Nubbie: what is wrong with Qt?
[09:14] <Nubbie> timeline: install clamav-daemon
[09:14] <mojojojo_> ubotu: ntfs
[09:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:14] <Nubbie> QT = ugliness.
[09:14] <czr> yiga1, he doesn't like it :-)
[09:15] <yiga1> Nubbie: to each there own :)
[09:15] <czr> hmm. another one then, how do I disable the usplash using a d-i directive?
[09:15] <wizard_> crimsun: what was it?
[09:15] <ShowTime> scottam: i run synaptic without su -. Some aplication's i cant run when im logged in as root. Is that normall?
[09:15] <Timeline> Nubbie: I think I got it working, I tried installing it again.
[09:16] <scottam> showtime: ok, you want a full list, "sudo apt-cache pkgnames" should do it; i recommend sending it to the display differently, maybe pipe it into less
[09:16] <Nubbie> timeline: good to hear :)
[09:16] <crimsun> wizard_: adding a codec revision-specific hack for newer hardware broke support for older hardware.
[09:16] <scottam> showtime: you're logged in as root?!
[09:16] <Timeline> Nubbie: Now freshclam tells me I need a new version, but I'm not sure how to get it
[09:16] <scottam> showtime: you're not really supposed to do that
[09:16] <UnluckyMa1> Anyone have any idea why Ubuntu's installer gives me a black screen?
[09:16] <yiga1> czr: do you mean using /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:17] <yiga1> czr: or something else?
[09:17] <wizard_> crimsun: oh. would it be patched in any way for the final release? :-)
[09:17] <Nubbie> timeline: you don't need a new version.
[09:17] <zaphands> Help! Debconf is stuck! How can I fix the installation later?
[09:17] <yiga1> czr: just take out the splash in the kerel command
[09:17] <wizard_> crimsun: i'd of loved to of waited it out but i use my laptop for song mixing... obviously no sound no mixes lol
[09:17] <czr> yiga1, er, I removed splash from grub command line (ie, the boot manager prompt) not /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:17] <Nubbie> zaphands: sudo apt-get install --force i think
[09:17] <czr> yiga1, I'm working on a fully automated install. so "doing manual fixes" is not the solution
[09:17] <bkudria> my keyboard layout is all screwed up - i have to (re)set some individual keys with xmodmap.  what could be wrong?
[09:18] <zaphands> Nubbie: Thanks.
[09:18] <Timeline> Nubbie: says my version is 0.88.2, current is 0.90.2
[09:18] <Timbuntu> Strange, with wifi-radar i can edit new connections that i make, but not my main one
[09:18] <Timbuntu> even if i disconnect.
[09:18] <UnluckyMa1> Guess I'm slackware bound.
[09:18] <yiga1> czr: hmm, strange the text file is very simple to fix
[09:18] <czr> yiga1, is it really? when you install 20-30 systems each day?
[09:18] <Jason_> pcollins hey i found the terminal
[09:18] <yiga1> czr: I will walk you through it in a very short time
[09:18] <aa^way> trying to install JDK, opening package and status: error: dependency is not satisfiable : sun-java5-jdk
[09:19] <pcollins> Jason_, kool. Now type 'alsamixer' then hit enter.
[09:19] <czr> yiga1, you're missing the point. I can fix the text file myself. but I need to track where the problem is unless I can find a d-i directive that disables usplash
[09:19] <Jason_> ok
[09:19] <Jason_> then?
[09:19] <scottam> showtime: if you run synaptic as a normal user in the sudoers file it should give you a nice GUI and then prompt you for your password
[09:19] <czr> yiga1, again, I'm working a fully automated install (using d-i preseed stuff)
[09:19] <pcollins> the unmute and turn up the volume on the sliders
[09:19] <yiga1> czr: I think unfortunately you are missing the point the /boot/grub/menu.lst is a very small file which can be copied very rapidly throughout your entire system
[09:19] <Timbuntu> is there a netbeans-ish program for linux?
[09:20] <Timbuntu> for java
[09:20] <mjbrooks> Timbuntu, er, netbeans
[09:20] <czr> yiga1, while d-i is running? :-)
[09:20] <gryph76> has anyone here looked into sharing network drives with feisty?
[09:20] <ShowTime> scottam: but some applications do NOT run when im logged as root (su -) and run when im logged (su or normal user) is that normal?
[09:20] <Timbuntu> mjbrooks , haha really, i couldnt find the netbeans download for linux . my bad
[09:20] <rambo3> eclipse and netbeans
[09:20] <pcollins> Jason_, you want to turn up "master" and "PCM"
[09:20] <mjbrooks> Timbuntu, I'm pretty sure
[09:21] <Jason_> ok how do i do that?
[09:21] <pcollins> up arrow
[09:21] <mjbrooks> Timbuntu, been awhile since I botherd with it
[09:21] <Timbuntu> mjbrooks looks like you're right :D
[09:21] <UnluckyMa1> Is there an advanced support forum where the questions aren't answered by the first google result?
[09:21] <pcollins> "m" to toggle muting
[09:21] <Timbuntu> mjbrooks , is there another Java IDE you'd recommend??
[09:21] <Nubbie> gryph76: are you having a problem? if you are just state your problem.
[09:21] <Timeline> Nubbie: ok running clamscan, it can't open the folder /mnt and it can't read the file system on /dev/hda1 (ntfs)
[09:22] <scottam> showtime: if you're logged into the GUI as non-root and in a terminal you sudo su - to root then it is not uncommon in my experience for the root login to be unable to open your non-root X display.....
[09:22] <yiga1> czr: you need all your system to be viewable I mean the processes viewable as they boot?
[09:22] <orbin> UnluckyMa1: well we're all volunteers here.  have you tried the official forums?
[09:22] <Jason_> ok they are on, but the white,grren and red bar is not present in the master volume control
[09:22] <mjbrooks> Timbuntu, I've been kinda awa from Java since just before 1.5 came out
[09:22] <zaphands> does anyone know how to configure mail?
[09:22] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, there are email lists and the likes of that
[09:22] <Nubbie> timeline: sudo clamscan
[09:22] <Jason_> green*
[09:22] <UnluckyMa1> orbin: No results there either.  No one tells me they don't know.  No one answers at all.
[09:22] <orbin> UnluckyMa1: where is it black-screening?
[09:23] <gryph76> 2 problems, the first is that I can't ping my feisty box by it's network name, only by IP address and I don't know why
[09:23] <Wazm> that's a secret
[09:23] <czr> yiga1, forget about it, really. unless you know the answer to my d-i question, you can't help.
[09:23] <Nubbie> timeline: also your windows partition should be in a folder like /media/windows or something. don't try to scan the device block (/dev/*anythin*)
[09:23] <Jason_> and i cannot press up or down for the master
[09:23] <Timbuntu> mjbrooks , yeah no worries. I've got a couple java projects in the work, i hope its not too much trouble porting them from windows netbeans to linux.. im sure it wont be
[09:23] <pcollins> so you cant turn it up? -- are there numbers above the "Master" label?
[09:23] <yiga1> Nubbie: when you say d-i do you mean debian installer or something else because I really don't know what d-i is
[09:23] <UnluckyMa1> orbin: It boots from the CD.  I get no bootlist.  It immediately says "Loading isolinux", and then turns black.
[09:23] <Jason_> no
[09:23] <scottam> unluckyma1: people tend not to respond if they don't know, because you really don't want to get a gazillion "i don't know" responses and have to search to see if anyone said "yes, here is your solution"
[09:23] <gryph76> second is possibly linked to the first so I'll worry about that later ;)
[09:23] <yiga1> excuse me Nubbie I mean czr
[09:23] <Nubbie> gryph76: does it matter?
[09:23] <pcollins> at the top of the AlsaMixer window, does it state a Card and Chip?
[09:24] <Nubbie> gryph76: and did you set a hostname in Networking?
[09:24] <Jason_> Yes
[09:24] <orbin> UnluckyMa1: possible you got/burned a bad disc.  can you try it on another computer?
[09:24] <Timeline> Nubbie: nothing in media
[09:24] <Jason_> they match my sound card too
[09:24] <kjol> anyone set up mod_perl on ubuntu server ? need help with cgi-bin
[09:24] <pcollins> sheesh i dunno
[09:25] <UnluckyMa1> Orbin:  7.04 LiveCD, 6.10 LiveCD and alternative all do it.  Works fine on another computer.
[09:25] <yiga1> Jason_: you probably need to use the gui version of alsa mixer I remember this can be an issue
[09:25] <Nubbie> timeline: first off you aren't running off a livecd are you?
[09:25] <scottam> timeline: you still trying to get stuff from ntfs to a flash drive?
[09:25] <danst> kjol sorry, can't help
[09:25] <gryph76> Nubbie: since I'm on a DHCP network and even if I know the IP of my machine others on my network might not, and yes, I did set a hostname
[09:25] <bergux> can you help to  use usb wifi adaper usr805422?
[09:25] <Jason_> where do i get the GUI version of alsamixer?
[09:25] <Nubbie> kjol: install php and apache, and its easy. i'm running a PHP apache server right now.
[09:25] <bkudria> my keyboard layout is all screwed up - i have to (re)set some individual keys with xmodmap.  what could be wrong?  it is reset anytime i run setxkbmap
[09:25] <Jason_> from synaptic manager?
[09:26] <orbin> UnluckyMa1: desktop or notebook?
[09:26] <yiga1> Jason_: or if you want the command line , "sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer"
[09:26] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, replace cdrom drive with another one as both disks which you say are good elsewhere fail  also
[09:26] <Acree> witam :)
[09:26] <kjol> Nubbie: yes but this needs perl not apache and i've never used perl before only php
[09:26] <ompaul> !bootoptions > UnluckyMa1 (check message from bot)
[09:26] <UnluckyMa1> orbin: Desktop with the most common hardware I can imagine.  Standard AMD processor, standard Radeon video.  VIA chipset.  that's about it.
[09:26] <Nubbie> kjol: i'm sorry i misread you.
[09:27] <UnluckyMa1> ompaul:  Slackware, Fedora, Knoppmyth, and a few others all boot fine.  But I'd really like to use Ubuntu.
[09:27] <yiga1> so sad?
[09:27] <pcollins> /usr/bin/gnome-volume-control
[09:27] <Timeline> Nubbie: Yes. It's a notebook with a dead windows install.
[09:27] <ubuntu__> yesh, very very very sad
[09:27] <Nubbie> kjol: i'm sure there is a guide for setting up a perl based web server.
[09:27] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, try the noapic stuff in that page the bot sent you
[09:27] <setts> anyone use a brother dcp-130c?
[09:27] <yiga1> pcollins: perfect but does he have this in kubuntu?
[09:27] <UnluckyMa1> ompaul: Also, I can't modify boot options.  That was my first problem.
[09:27] <Nubbie> Timeline: okay... how is it dead..
[09:27] <Timeline> scottam: No, that test worked, doing virus scans now
[09:27] <Jason_> ok i think it installed
[09:28] <UnluckyMa1> I know all about how I'm supposed to get a bootlist where I can change boot options.  I don't get that.  It immediately begins loading the kernel as soon as the CD is even polled.
[09:28] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, then most certainly try a diffferent cd drive in the box
[09:28] <pcollins> kool
[09:28] <yiga1> Jason_: great
[09:28] <ubuntu__> how can i mount a NTFS drive in ubuntu 5.0.2?
[09:28] <ubuntu__> liveCD
[09:28] <UnluckyMa1> ompaul: I have a cd and a dvd player in there.  They both do it.
[09:28] <Jason_> where is it?
[09:28] <aa^way> where you write "--fix-missing", like into terminal but how?
[09:28] <Nubbie> i am not aware of this ubuntu 5.0.2....
[09:28] <pjotr> Everyone ever had problems with geforce 7600gs? Mine just dont seem to work properly on ubuntu 6.10, installed that new beta and it worked, but at 6.10 X wont always start
[09:28] <Timeline> Nubbie: stop error at load screen, foreces a reboot loop
[09:28] <Nubbie> !ntfs > ubuntu__
[09:28] <ubuntu__> err sorry, its 5ish xD
[09:28] <Nubbie> timeline: you're sure it's a virus?
[09:29] <icyhot> can anyone verify whether they issue where the keyring didn't save Samba passwords has been fixed in the new feisty?
[09:29] <Nubbie> icyhot: read the bug thing on the ubuntu website.
[09:29] <Timeline> Nubbie: Nope, just trying to check
[09:29] <yiga1> Jason_:go to Sound and Video
[09:29] <Timeline> Nubbie: It's an IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL stop error
[09:30] <yiga1> Jason_: do u see it?
[09:30] <Nubbie> timeline: :l k read a guide on mounting ntfs drives, and mount the drive to somewhere easy. then aim clam scan at that folder where you mounted it.
[09:30] <Jason_> ok i have it up
[09:30] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, your out of luck that box is playing hard to get (usually a hardware problem) randomly changing the stuff plugged into the PCI slots *might* help
[09:30] <Jason_> yes
[09:30] <Nubbie> Timeline: normally i would just tell people this is the time to convert to linux.... but i'll help you out.
[09:30] <Nubbie> ;)
[09:30] <yiga1> Jason_: is anything muted or very low
[09:30] <Jason_> Line
[09:30] <Jason_> Mic
[09:30] <Jason_> Video
[09:30] <Jason_> Phone
[09:30] <ubuntu__> where do i type all the sudo commands again? (forgot)
[09:30] <Jason_> Aux
[09:30] <yiga1> Jason_: ok stop
[09:30] <Jason_> ok
[09:31] <Nubbie> Jason_: i'm going to idiot-proof you right now..... are your powered speakers plugged in/turned on/or turned up?
[09:31] <yiga1> Jason: is all Master, Headphone up
[09:31] <yiga1> Nubbie: :)
[09:31] <pcollins> Jason_, do you have speakers?
[09:31] <pcollins> :)
[09:31] <Nubbie> Jason_: i'm sorry to ask the obvious questions, but sometimes thats the problem. nobody asks the obvious questions :)
[09:31] <icyhot> Nubbie: I know there's a bug open for it on launchpad but it hasnt been updated in a while.  it worked in previous releases before edgy so I don't know what's going on.  have you seen something specific?
[09:31] <Jason_> Master is not showing
[09:31] <Jason_> only MasterM
[09:31] <Jason_> i use the internal speakers on this laptop
[09:31] <Nubbie> icyhot: if it's in launchpad, it will be updated if there is a fix for it.
[09:32] <UnluckyMa1> ompaul: I'll concede that I may be out of luck.  But it currently has FC and Windows dual booting, with no problem.  I'd like to replace both with Ubuntu.  Since it works with every other OS, I still think it's an Ubuntu problem.
[09:32] <rausb0> ubuntu__: in a terminal window, like xterm
[09:32] <yiga1> ok Jason_: just move everything up to about maximum
[09:32] <icyhot> Nubbie: ok, thx.  hopefully they'll get to it soon.
[09:32] <Nubbie> Jason_: ahh you didn't say that
[09:32] <Timeline> Nubbie: I'm fixing this notebook for someone as a job, just thought I could use ubuntu live cd to help things go faster
[09:32] <czr> hmm. i think I've almost got it. any idea how to programmatically cause a VT switch on /dev/tty ?
[09:32] <yiga1> Jason_: if anything is muted just unmute, its not such a good idea but it should give you volume if you have it
[09:32] <rausb0> ubuntu__: press alt-f2, type in xterm and press return
[09:32] <czr> (can't use openvt since the target VT is in use)
[09:32] <Jason_> ok let me chekc
[09:32] <Nubbie> Timeline: mount the ntfs drive somewhere easy, then aim clamscan at it.
[09:33] <crimsun> Jason_: what's the output from ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat'' ?
[09:33] <Sevensins> guten Morgen
[09:33] <yiga1> rausb0: hard core xterm :)
[09:33] <Timeline> Nubbie: if this was a desktop HDD I would just take it out and put it into a working PC
[09:33] <Nubbie> Jason_: some people have problems where their internal speakers will only work if something is plugged into the headphone port, etc.
[09:33] <rausb0> yiga1: xterm is the only one :)
[09:33] <rambo3> oss is not installed by default on ubuntu
[09:33] <ubuntu__> im guessin the regular terminal should cover it
[09:33] <foutrelis> Does anyone know how to make a multi-boot DVD with all (X,K)Ubuntu ? :)
[09:33] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, ever think the ubuntu kernel could be probing some hardware with a driver which is hitting the edge of sanity for a dodgy piece of hardware (I have seen this before)
[09:33] <Nubbie> Timeline: and if it was riddled with viruses, your working PC would cease to function.
[09:33] <crimsun> rambo3: alsa's oss emulation is loaded by default.
[09:33] <yiga1> rausb0: I happen to use urxvt but yes after this terminal xterm
[09:33] <Nubbie> timeline: :l
[09:34] <UnluckyMa1> ompaul:  Maybe.  But I doubt it, since it doesn't ever load the kernel.
[09:34] <yiga1> Jason_: ? u ok?
[09:34] <pirothezero> 2 Questions: 1. How do I use those terminal scripts I find online to add 'open terminal here' to right click menu. B. anyway to change the copy/transfer prompts to show mb/s?
[09:34] <rausb0> yiga1: actually, the terminal type doesnt matter as long as screen can run inside it :)
[09:34] <Sevensins> hmmm the problem i had with flash yesterday is still actual and now i think i have the concentration to solve it with someones help
[09:34] <Nubbie> foutrelis: why... all of those cds contain almost identical files. just install ubuntu and then either install kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop packages.
[09:34] <Jason_> Crimsun the output is Mixers: 0: C-
[09:34] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, scoll back up here you said it did already: <UnluckyMan> First off, I never get a boot list when it boots from the CD.  My computer gives the normal "Boot from CD" message, then it immediately starts booting the kernel.
[09:34] <yiga1> rausb0: so true
[09:35] <Nubbie> pirothezero: put them in the nautilus script folder.
[09:35] <Jason_> C-Media Electronics CMI9739
[09:35] <Timeline> Nubbie: I thought I mounted it to /mnt, but clamscan isn't able to open it
[09:35] <UnluckyMa1> ompaul:  Yes.  "starts" booting the kernel.  Then goes black before actually booting, like I said.
[09:35] <UnluckyMa1> Hence "immediately" goes black, as opposed to "goes black at a much later, more convenient point".
[09:35] <pirothezero> Nubbie, i did that and when i right click nothing..there a process i have to restart?
[09:35] <Nubbie> pirothezero: yeah.... nautilus.
[09:35] <crimsun> Jason_: can you pastebin the required info from the top section of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems ?
[09:35] <pirothezero> o lol
[09:35] <pirothezero> ty :)
[09:35] <Nubbie> timeline: can you browse the files on your windows partition?
[09:36] <foutrelis> Nubbie: I would like to put all of them on a DVD and have them seperate from each other. So I can choose which flavor to install :)
[09:36] <rausb0> UnluckyMa1: and you can't press F6 to change boot options before?
[09:36] <ubuntu__> someone hold me, for i have just accidently erased all my data while i played in vista
[09:36] <ompaul> that reads like during - no matter you got some - I have suggested moving things in pci slots and testing other drives - - and make sure your not on cable select with the cds etc
[09:36] <ubuntu__> >____<
[09:36] <Xenguy> die
[09:36] <aa^way> how to change place where you download files with "apt-get", its getting from currently ee.ubuntu.com but i would like america server or something
[09:36] <Nubbie> foutrelis: the effort involved is almost certainly not worth saving 2 blank cds, i have to tell you.
[09:36] <ubuntu__> thats what i get for playing with the registry =_=
[09:36] <ompaul> ubuntu__, you are offtopic
[09:36] <UnluckyMa1> rausb0: Nope.  I've tried.  It's like my BIOS's "Boot from CD" and "Loading isolinux" happen pretty much simultaneously despite no input from me.
[09:37] <rausb0> UnluckyMa1: hmmm. bad.
[09:37] <foutrelis> Nubbie: Oh.. Thanks for the info :)
[09:37] <Nubbie> to be a little bit more offtopic, lets discuss why the windows registry is dumb
[09:37] <Nubbie> :D
[09:37] <ompaul> Nubbie, no
[09:37] <UnluckyMa1> rausb0: Then it goes black.  It all happens so fast, the only reason I see "Loading isolinux" is because I held down pause break.
[09:37] <Nubbie> foutrelis: if there were an easy way, it would be well known, and people would use it.
[09:37] <ubuntu__> ompaul: I was mounting NTFS in ubuntu to check if the data (the documents folder) was still there, so i guess thanks for the help for instructing me how...
[09:37] <Nubbie> ompaul: i was just jerking your chain :l be cool :)
[09:37] <ubuntu__> i didnt know how to mount, and since you told me how; i guess thats all the help i needed :/
[09:38] <Jason_> how do i pastebin?
[09:38] <ompaul> Nubbie, I am - ice cold :)
[09:38] <ompaul> !pastebin
[09:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:38] <Nubbie> ompaul: collld-blooded.
[09:38] <ubuntu__> i am going to go scream into a pillow not, thnx
[09:38] <ubuntu__> not=now
[09:38] <Nubbie> not does not = now...
[09:38] <Nubbie> :l
[09:38] <ubuntu__> thats what i meant... why are you being so mean ;_;
[09:38] <yiga1> sounds like haskel above
[09:38] <Nubbie> lol.
[09:39] <Sevensins> the problem is that i dont hear music once the flashplayer starts playing music and it must have st to do with st that i did ... but i dont know what ... q the moment i have the nonfreeflashplugin installed on my system and i can see flashmovies play like...i mean i see the animantions ...but ...if for example on myspace i push play in the mediasection of an account i dont hear the music and the firefoxwindow greys out ...wich means it h
[09:39] <Nubbie> !mp3 > sevensins
[09:39] <Nubbie> sevensins: i'm pretty sure thats your problem.
[09:39] <Timeline> Nubbie: only by typing sudo nautilus --no-desktop /mnt   Which I do not fully under why i must do that.
[09:39] <yiga1> Sevensins: usually it means you have to kill esd
[09:39] <foutrelis> My pc runs faster with windows than with ubuntu :( It's has a crappy celeron 1.7 cpu but it gets VERY slow in ubuntu. Is there anything I could do to make it go faster? I mean, I have loads over 2.5 almost all the time :(
[09:39] <Jason_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15758/
[09:39] <Sevensins> kill essd
[09:39] <yiga1> Sevensins: so you can in a terminal type "pkill esd"
[09:40] <Sevensins> okay ill try
[09:40] <Nubbie> ohhh ESD is stealing his audio card?
[09:40] <Sevensins> yiga1 thx
[09:40] <Nubbie> :O
[09:40] <Sevensins> nubbie thx
[09:40] <yiga1> Sevensins: np
[09:40] <Nubbie> ESD is the bad.
[09:40] <yiga1> very bad
[09:40] <Nubbie> i don't like how gnome now corrects t e h to the.
[09:41] <tooth> electrostatic discharge?
[09:41] <Nubbie> tooth: what?
[09:41] <tooth> ESD
[09:41] <tooth> :D
[09:41] <pcollins> one day teh will take over
[09:41] <Nubbie> tooth: oh yeah, thats even worse.
[09:41] <yiga1> tooth: like ESP
[09:41] <rausb0> !info esd
[09:41] <ubotu> Package esd does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[09:41] <scottam> nubbie: hate to break it to you, but the correct spelling is "the" ;-)
[09:41] <Nubbie> "its like i have ESPN or something"
[09:42] <Nubbie> scottam: but t e h is t e h 1337.
[09:42] <rausb0> esd is enlighted sound daemon
[09:42] <tooth> not very enlightened is it.
[09:42] <Nubbie> scottam: the is just lame/conformist because anybody with an english dictionary uses the.
[09:42] <rausb0> tooth: no :)
[09:42] <pcollins> the will be defunct like "ye"
[09:42] <Jason_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15759/
[09:42] <Sevensins> hmmm no yiga1
[09:42] <yiga1> ye old esd
[09:42] <pcollins> lol
[09:42] <scottam> if you want to be non-conformist, write "ye" then
[09:42] <Nubbie> ye us still in the dictionary, and according to gnome, is correctly used.
[09:42] <Sevensins> i typed as u said but it wont work
[09:43] <yiga1> Sevensins: fare, do you have another process that is using sound
[09:43] <Sevensins> hmmm mom
[09:43] <rausb0> tooth: go to www.xmms.org and search for esd on that page ;)
[09:43] <yiga1> Sevensins: I have also found this is an issue
[09:43] <foutrelis> I'm leaving. Bye people :)
[09:43] <Nubbie> i didn't even have a chance to say goodbye :o
[09:43] <Nubbie> lol.
[09:43] <yiga1> Sevensins: so close all programs using sound, pkill esd - cross fingers rub rabbit tail
[09:43] <chewed-on> Hey guys, is Gentoo a good distribution ?
[09:43] <aa^way> how to change place where you download files with "apt-get", its getting from currently ee.ubuntu.com but i would like america server or something
[09:43] <chewed-on> I'm a guy that's into 3D graphics and gaming.
[09:44] <yiga1> chewed-on: if you have a year to kill
[09:44] <scottam> gentoo is a lot of work
[09:44] <chewed-on> I also prefer to have a safe and secure system.
[09:44] <Sevensins> kay ill do
[09:44] <yiga1> chewed-on: but if you have the time
[09:44] <ompaul> chewed-on, ask in #gentoo, we prefer ubuntu over it for some strange reason
[09:44] <Nubbie> chewed-on: you realize that people here will tell you no, because we're all ubuntu enthusiasts.
[09:44] <yiga1> Sevensins: good
[09:44] <pcollins> if you're in prison
[09:44] <chewed-on> yiga1: what do you mean a year to kill ?
[09:44] <Nubbie> chewed-on: type sudo apt-get install nexuiz.
[09:44] <scottam> i decided i wanted a lower-maintenance distro, so i switched from gentoo to ubuntu
[09:44] <Nubbie> chewed-on: lol
[09:44] <ss> help! I cannot broswe an ubuntu server share via windows network
[09:44] <chewed-on> Nubbie: yes, I've taken that into consideration, otherwise I would've went into the Gentoo channel.
[09:44] <yiga1> chewed-on: this is not true for me, Gentoo is powerful but it takes a lot of time to learn how to set it up
[09:45] <ompaul> chewed-on, it takes time to get it working
[09:45] <yiga1> chewed-on: are you new to linux
[09:45] <Nubbie> chewed-on: gentoo is a non binary distribution, which means it takes days to install, because every single program must be configured, made, and then installed.
[09:45] <ubuntu__> is there a search function in ubuntu?
[09:45] <Jason_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15761/
[09:45] <Jason_> the rest of them are on this one
[09:45] <yiga1> ubuntu_: what are you searching for?
[09:45] <chewed-on> Takes time to get it working ? What about Fedora Core 6 ?
[09:45] <chewed-on> Which one do you think is better out of the two ?
[09:45] <Nubbie> chewed-on: there is a binary installation method of gentoo, but then every advantage of using gentoo disappears.
[09:45] <ubuntu__> the bookmarks.html in a harddrive for firefox
[09:46] <ubuntu__> hopefully thats at least still there...
[09:46] <Nubbie> chewed-on: for simplicity's sake, i would go with any debian based system.
[09:46] <yiga1> chewed-on: yum package management not so good but it is a good distribution also
[09:46] <ss> help! I cannot broswe an ubuntu server share via windows network
[09:46] <Timeline> Nubbie: did you see my last message?
[09:46] <Nubbie> timline: nada.
[09:46] <Pathogen246> anyone know where I can get the gDesklet controls for Rhythmlet so I can control Rhythmbox?
[09:46] <Nubbie> timeline:
[09:46] <scottam> gentoo is great to learn lots of stuff to get your system working, and i sure learned a lot when i installed it, but as a far as running my main computer, i prefer not to have to compile every program i run (ie. kde, openoffice, etc.)
[09:46] <yiga1> ss: permissions, firewall, what type of error do you get
[09:46] <Timeline> Nubbie: only by typing sudo nautilus --no-desktop /mnt   Which I do not fully under why i must do that.
[09:46] <Nubbie> pathogen246: http://google.ca
[09:46] <ompaul> !samba > ss (ss read the message from the bot on how to set that up)
[09:46] <nu-> !fonts
[09:46] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:47] <Nubbie> timeline: i don't know why clam can't read anything in there.
[09:47] <Timeline> Hey wj32
[09:47] <yiga1> ubuntu__: locate bookmarks.html
[09:47] <Jason_> did you get that crimsun?
[09:47] <wj32> hi
[09:47] <pcollins> are any of the super-geniuses helping Jason_ ?
[09:47] <yiga1> ubuntu_: in terminal
[09:47] <Nubbie> !google
[09:47] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[09:47] <Jason_> i think so, im waiting a reply
[09:47] <ubuntu__> yigal: how can i search in a different drive?
[09:47] <scottam> thanks nubbie
[09:47] <Pathogen246> Nubbie: tried that, it only really told me what it does. My synaptic manager says it's installed, but the widgets don't control anything, says it's not playing even tho I have Rhythmbox running at the time
[09:48] <chewed-on> yiga1: I see that both Gentoo and Fedora have a package manager.
[09:48] <yiga1> google isn't so good for w3m web browser though
[09:48] <Nubbie> lol. see !google should say: try google before pestering #ubuntu members.
[09:48] <chewed-on> Gentoo: Emerge
[09:48] <chewed-on> Fedora: Yum
[09:48] <Timeline> wj32: You remember how you told me to read that ntfs drive last night?
[09:48] <ubuntu__> search bookmarks.html sda1?
[09:48] <wj32> Timeline: yep
[09:48] <chewed-on> What's the difference between the two beside the name ?
[09:48] <Sevensins> yiga1 it doesnt work....
[09:48] <Nubbie> Pathogen246: gdesklets is very dated. i would recommend using music-applet
[09:48] <yiga1> chewed-on: alost all linux distributions have a package manager but apt is better by far than most if not all
[09:48] <wj32> Timeline: night? where are you?
[09:48] <ss> !samba
[09:48] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:48] <chewed-on> Then . . .why don't I use Debian instead ? :)
[09:48] <Timeline> wj32: EST
[09:48] <scottam> wj32: i think he means 24 hours ago....and i agree "night"
[09:48] <Nubbie> chewed-on: you aren't very versed in linux i take it.
[09:48] <yiga1> Sevensins: did it work before?
[09:49] <Pathogen246> Nubbie: alright, I'll try that, sorry for pestering you
[09:49] <Nubbie> chewed-on: because debian's release schedule is ultra slow.
[09:49] <wj32> Timeline: im in australia.
[09:49] <Nubbie> pathogen246: i was joking.
[09:49] <wj32> Timeline: anyway, go on.
[09:49] <chewed-on> The linux book I have said "once you've tried Debian, you don't ever want to go back to the other Linux again"
[09:49] <Pathogen246> Nubbie: thanks tho, lol, i know ;)
[09:49] <Timeline> wj32: Any idea why clamav can't scan the NTFS drive?
[09:49] <Nubbie> pathogen246: i don't mind helping honest.
[09:49] <yiga1> Sevensins: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[09:49] <Sevensins> yeah but since i did the update from dapper to feisty it doesnt
[09:49] <wj32> Timeline: what error?
[09:49] <yiga1> Sevensins: try above
[09:49] <Pathogen246> Nubbie: just poking back, lol :)
[09:49] <yiga1> Sevensins: r u in GNOME?
[09:50] <Nubbie> chewed-on: ubuntu is essentially debian, only with packages released in the last decade ROFL :)
[09:50] <Sevensins> yiga1 right
[09:50] <eck> chewed-on: how old is that book?
[09:50] <yiga1> Sevensins: open up Volume Manager
[09:50] <Sevensins> is open
[09:50] <yiga1> good but everything is on, yes not mutes on anything
[09:50] <yiga1> Sevensins: ?
[09:51] <ubuntu__> yigal: um... how can i do the "locate" command on a specific drive? >_>
[09:51] <Sevensins> jep
[09:51] <chewed-on> eck:  um, . . . it's for Mandrake 9.0 or Red Hat 8.0 I think . . .
[09:51] <Timeline> wj32: clamscan -r /mnt results in can't open directory
[09:51] <Jason_> can i get any type of response from a helper who is looking through my pastebin?
[09:51] <chewed-on> ^.^!
[09:51] <scottam> jason_: sorry, i got no clue
[09:51] <eck> chewed-on: things have changed a lot since then :-)
[09:51] <xstream> ubuntu__, 'places' -> 'search for files'!?
[09:51] <Sevensins> yiga1 yes no mutes and nothing
[09:51] <Nubbie> red hat 8 ROFL.
[09:51] <Nubbie> :l
[09:51] <ompaul> Jason_, you have to tell people what the url is
[09:51] <yiga1> ubuntu_: you should use find instead: if you are looking for your bookmarks then issue the following "find ~ -name '*bookmarks.html*'
[09:51] <chewed-on> Ubuntu. . .
[09:52] <wj32> Timeline: does /mnt exist?
[09:52] <chewed-on> If I asked the same questions I think I'm going to get a "Gentoo" from the #gentoo channel.
[09:52] <eck> chewed-on: for one thing, ubuntu certainly wan't around
[09:52] <chewed-on> I don't think I can guess the answer for #fedora channel.
[09:52] <eck> or gentoo for that matter...
[09:52] <Timeline> wj32: Aww crap I'm a dumby, added sudo and it's working now, I think.
[09:52] <yiga1> Sevensins: is the volume on each control at raised more than halfway
[09:52] <Nubbie> chewed-on: go with ubuntu. obviously we should all be telling you to try ubuntu, because it is the best, and thats why we use it ;)
[09:52] <Killerkiwi> HELP - what do you do if lspci returns nothing?
[09:52] <chewed-on> :-P
[09:52] <scottam> timeline: you said you could browse /mnt right?
[09:52] <ubuntu__> thanks, i looked in the regular places xstream or else i wouldnt be asking, so stop ridiculing me, its annoying
[09:52] <eck> or fedora :-)
[09:52] <wj32> Timeline: yes, maybe /mnt's permissions have something to do with it
[09:52] <ompaul> chewed-on, so are you trying to troll ? ;-)
[09:52] <chewed-on> No.
[09:52] <Nubbie> chewed-on: beware of them fedora folks, they'll try to tell you that fedora is better than ubuntu :D
[09:52] <Sevensins> yiga1 answeris yes
[09:52] <rausb0> Killerkiwi: nothing? maybe /proc is not mounted
[09:52] <yiga1> chewed-on: why don't you want to use ubuntu?
[09:53] <Jason_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15761/
[09:53] <Nubbie> yiga1: high five :D
[09:53] <chewed-on> I'm trying to play games on my Fedora Core 6 but everytime I check wine games, i keep seeing "ubuntu works. . . ubuntu works. . . ubuntu works"
[09:53] <Timeline> scottam: Yes, but only with special nautilus command.
[09:53] <Nubbie> chewed-on: it does.
[09:53] <Killerkiwi> rausb0, how would i fix that?
[09:53] <ompaul> !behaviour
[09:53] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:53] <Nubbie> chewed-on: i play lots of games on ubuntu.
[09:53] <wj32> chewed-on: so...?
[09:53] <chewed-on> That's why I'm going around checking Debian base distributions.
[09:53] <yiga1> ok this is a bit more tricky but no matter go System->Preferences->Sound
[09:53] <rausb0> Killerkiwi: sudo mount -t proc proc /proc
[09:53] <scottam> timeline: or with the terminal after sudo i assume....but clamscan is workign now?
[09:53] <Timeline> scottam: Just using the file browser didn't work
[09:53] <Killerkiwi> rausb0, ta
[09:53] <Nubbie> chewed-on: and it's as easy as typing sudo apt-get install nexuiz neverball tuxracer.... etc.
[09:53] <xstream> ubuntu__, tried beagle?
[09:54] <chewed-on> Just gathering some information about Ubuntu and other distributions.
[09:54] <Nubbie> ubuntu__, or tracker...
[09:54] <wj32> rausb0: that proc stuff is kinda stupid. if proc isn't a file in the current dir, why use "proc"
[09:54] <scottam> distrowatch.com
[09:54] <ompaul> chewed-on, most hardware support ubuntu most arches debian most radical gNewSense
[09:54] <yiga1> ubuntu_: yes if you have a pretty fast system using Beagle is nice
[09:54] <wj32> rausb0: why not /dev/proc
[09:54] <chewed-on> Hm. . .
[09:54] <Nubbie> chewed-on: if you want to spend more time gaming, and less time messing with your system, use a debian based system.
[09:54] <chewed-on> which Ubuntu is the main one ?
[09:54] <eck> wj32: proc is not mounted at /dev/proc
[09:54] <ubuntu__> yigal: It still searchs the cd, and not the drive >_<
[09:54] <Sevensins> im using a soundblaster audigy soundcard ...maybe thatll help you help me yiga1
[09:54] <Timeline> scottam: All I know is wj32 told me to use sudo nautilus --no-desktop /mnt and that works, haven't found any other way to look at the drive.
[09:54] <scottam> proc should be at /proc
[09:55] <Nubbie> chewed-on: but don't use debian, it's packages are ancient.
[09:55] <wj32> eck: i know. i meant why not use /dev/proc as the source instead of proc
[09:55] <rausb0> wj32: proc is a pseudo-filesystem generated by the kernel
[09:55] <chewed-on> There are Ubuntu dapper, edgy and stuff
[09:55] <eck> wj32: because that isn't a device node
[09:55] <ompaul> Nubbie, etch is stable
[09:55] <rausb0> wj32: it is not a device
[09:55] <Timeline> scottam: And yes, seems to be scanning now
[09:55] <Nubbie> chewed-on: depends on whether or not you want to use gnome, KDE, or xfce
[09:55] <wj32> rausb0: but what if "proc" is a file.
[09:55] <Nubbie> ompaul: yeah, but still ancient.
[09:55] <chewed-on> Nubbie: well, Ubuntu is like the testing OS for Debian just like how Fedora is for Red Hat 9.0
[09:55] <wj32> rausb0: in the current dir. and its a device.
[09:55] <Pathogen246> Nubbie: Yo, installed music-applet...where'd it go?
[09:55] <yiga1> Sevensins: do you have the sound menu open?
[09:55] <eck> wj32: as rausb0 said, it is a pseudo filesystem. it is created and maintained by the kernel itself when you run a system
[09:55] <scottam> chewed-on: i thought that was what unstable was for
[09:55] <yiga1> Sevensins: I may as well ask have you tested this before?
[09:56] <crimsun> Jason_: looking now.
[09:56] <Nubbie> pathogen246: it's a panel applet, add it to your panel.
[09:56] <ompaul> chewed-on, you got the wrong end of the stick there
[09:56] <wj32> eck: again, i know.
[09:56] <chewed-on> Nubbie: I don't mind having all three desktop environment, just want one that works well with games and stuff.
[09:56] <wj32> eck: but when you mount it
[09:56] <eck> wj32: it maps data structures in the kernel to a filesystem you can look at and change
[09:56] <Pathogen246> Nubbie: Killer
[09:56] <yiga1> chewed-on: unstable is for breaking
[09:56] <rausb0> wj32: if "proc" is a file in the current dir, no one cares. tools using the proc filesystem look in /proc
[09:56] <wj32> eck: you go: mount -t proc proc /proc
[09:56] <rambo3> chewed-on, #ubuntu.offtopic
[09:56] <Sevensins> i did everything you said... so there is no need to ask
[09:56] <wj32> eck: but what if "proc" is a device in the current dir?
[09:56] <chewed-on> (stuff = graphics, multimedia video, music etc)
[09:56] <ss> help!  I can now browse the samba sever via windows using it's ip but still not via windows network neighborhood
[09:56] <Nubbie> chewed-on: install regular ubuntu then, gnome is nice looking (unlike kde :D) and is pretty much easier to use.
[09:56] <Sevensins> if i would leave st out it might be the solver
[09:56] <Sevensins> :)
[09:56] <yiga1> Sevensins: ps -A | grep alsa ?
[09:57] <chewed-on> Nubbie: yeah what is the normal ubuntu called ?
[09:57] <wj32> rausb0: but still, thats kinda a bad design. there shouldnt be any exceptions
[09:57] <rausb0> wj32: that wouldnt make a difference
[09:57] <crimsun> Jason_: try muting 'External Amplifier'
[09:57] <Sevensins> nothing
[09:57] <Nubbie> rambo3: he's seeing if ubuntu is what he wants to use.... he's also asking what version of ubuntu to install. please tell me how this is off topic.
[09:57] <ompaul> chewed-on, that is #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter you have strayed from the support path - Ubuntu's main distro is called funny enough Ubuntu
[09:57] <wj32> rausb0: thats why windows is bad. it has heaps of exceptions. "nul" is not a file. blabla bla
[09:57] <crimsun> Jason_: also, are you using analog speakers directly?
[09:57] <rausb0> wj32: the second "proc" in the mount command is not referring to a block device
[09:57] <eck> wj32: i don'tthink you _have_ to mount it at all
[09:57] <yiga1> Sevensins: you need to get alsa up then
[09:57] <Sevensins> yiga1 it gives nothing
[09:57] <rambo3> !ot | Nubbie
[09:57] <ubotu> Nubbie: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:57] <yiga1> Sevensins: good then you need alsa and this is your problem
[09:57] <chewed-on> ompaul: where can I download it sir ?
[09:57] <Nubbie> ompaul: funny story, he didn't know that.
[09:58] <wj32> rausb0: yes but it could mean two things. proc as in the real /proc or proc as in ./proc
[09:58] <chewed-on> http://www.ubuntu.com/ ?
[09:58] <yiga1> Sevensins: sorry "most likely" your problem
[09:58] <chewed-on> Right
[09:58] <chewed-on> Ubuntu 6.10 :)
[09:58] <Jason_> how do i do that?
[09:58] <Sevensins> where shall i look for alsa?
[09:58] <ompaul> chewed-on, funny enough http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:58] <rausb0> wj32: there are several filesystem types you dont mount from a block device. sysfs, devpts, proc, ...
[09:58] <wj32> rausb0: thats bad. that is creating an exception just like nul and con and aux in windows is
[09:58] <Jason_> and does an analog speaker mean an internal speaker?
[09:58] <Nubbie> chewed-on: yes, 6.10 is what you want.
[09:58] <mojojojo_> hi, I installed gstreamer0.8-mad, gstreamer0.8-plugins, but mp3 files still don't work with rhytmbox
[09:58] <yiga1> Sevensins: aptitude search ~dalsa
[09:58] <mojojojo_> :(
[09:58] <chewed-on> Are you serious?
[09:58] <crimsun> Jason_: as long as you're not attempting to use the spdif output
[09:58] <chewed-on> 700 MB
[09:58] <chewed-on> Only!?
[09:58] <ubuntu__> yigal: i know youve given me to search commands to terminal, is there any other thing i can add to the command in order to search the harddrive that i want instead of searching only in the CD drive?
[09:59] <Nubbie> mojojo_: you should be installing gstreamer0.10 packages, as thats what ubuntu uses these days.
[09:59] <wj32> eck: of course not. it mounts it for you.
[09:59] <eck> wj32: usually you would be mounting proc to a chroot, right?
[09:59] <rausb0> wj32: no, with -t proc it is unambigous
[09:59] <ompaul> chewed-on, funny enough you get to use the internet to get the rest of the 20000 or so packages
[09:59] <chewed-on> I'm going to get a second opinion about Ubuntu from #blender
[09:59] <crimsun> Jason_: use alsamixer from a Terminal, or use the volume control after setting the preferences to show all controls
[09:59] <Nubbie> chewed-on: expect lots of downloading of packages later on though.
[09:59] <yiga1> ubuntu_: are  u using a live CD?
[09:59] <chewed-on> ompaul: it's just that when I downloaded Fedora Core 6 it was 3.9 or so GB.
[09:59] <ubuntu__> yigal: yes
[09:59] <wj32> rausb0: oh crap. didnt see the -t proc. nevermind
[09:59] <chewed-on> Yeah, I've downloaded over 200 updates on Fedora Core 6.
[09:59] <yiga1> ubuntu_: ok you have to mount your hd have you done this?
[09:59] <ompaul> chewed-on, you do one cd you install you get the rest from the internet using a package manager
[09:59] <crimsun> Sevensins: pastebin the requested info from the top portion of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems , then tell me the url
[09:59] <ubuntu__> yigal: yesh
[09:59] <wj32> rausb0: well i did, i didnt think it made any difference.
[09:59] <Timeline> Ok Now clamav just jammed up all of ubuntu live cd :P
[09:59] <mojojojo_> Nubbie: aaaahh, thanks :)
[10:00] <ubuntu__> thanks to nubbie's link
[10:00] <chewed-on> Is ubuntu secure ?
[10:00] <chewed-on> Does it use SELinux ?
[10:00] <eck> chewed-on: it does not
[10:00] <yiga1> ubuntu_: where is the partition you are looking for? what folder is it mounted on
[10:00] <Nubbie> chewed-on: ubuntu is great to install, but as a convienience of only being one cd, comes the inconvienience of having to download them all. but you'll also have the most up to date packages and security updates updating from the internet instead of a cd.
[10:00] <chewed-on> . . .
[10:00] <wj32> chewed-on: is Windows secure? does it use SELinux?
[10:00] <eck> chewed-on: realistically, redhat is the only thing that uses selinux
[10:00] <ubuntu__> its in Computer
[10:00] <pcollins> chewed-on is a bot
[10:00] <eck> well redhat/centos/fedora
[10:00] <Nubbie> chewed-on: yes ubuntu is secure. by default there are no open ports with a basic installation.
[10:00] <Jason_> ok and then?
[10:00] <wj32> eck: the NSA likes selinux
[10:01] <crimsun> Jason_: test playing music
[10:01] <wj32> lol NSAKEY
[10:01] <eck> wj32: and they use fedora
[10:01] <yiga1> ubuntu_: is the disk a windows disk or linux?
[10:01] <wj32> eck: didnt say they dont
[10:01] <Jason_> ok i muted external
[10:01] <Nubbie> wj32: all the more reason not to use it :L i live in canada and i'm even afraid of the NSA.
[10:01] <ubuntu__> yigal: windows
[10:01] <eck> chewed-on: if you want a distro with selinux support, use one of those
[10:01] <Jason_> and tested music and nothing
[10:01] <crimsun> Jason_: now mute 'IEC958'
[10:01] <wj32> Nubbie: the DMCA is invading into australia!
[10:01] <Sevensins> crimsun the link is  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15762/
[10:01] <wj32> lets not get offtopic
[10:01] <yiga1> ubuntu_: let us say you mounted the windows disk at /media/windows
[10:01] <Jason_> ok done
[10:01] <Nubbie> wj32: it's been in canada for at least 3-4 years.
[10:02] <Nubbie> wj32: but luckily all the judges in canada are pot smoking hippies.
[10:02] <Nubbie> :)
[10:02] <crimsun> Sevensins: err, that's not the output for which I'm looking
[10:02] <rausb0> Nubbie: lol
[10:02] <wj32> Nubbie: thats bad
[10:02] <chewed-on> eck: well if Ubuntu is debian base then I don't doubt it's strength.
[10:02] <chewed-on> Just curious.
[10:02] <wj32> apt is good
[10:02] <chewed-on> I'll download it anyhow.
[10:02] <wj32> better than rpm
[10:02] <Jason_> IT WORKS!!
[10:02] <yiga1> ubuntu_: then you will want to use find on this folder, if you can and it will take less time point the find command where you think the bookmarks are kept
[10:02] <Sevensins> crimsun wich command?
[10:02] <scottam> you can download the dvd if you like too
[10:02] <Nubbie> wj32: canadian judges don't often bend to foreign laws, even the US laws.
[10:02] <crimsun> Jason_: you're welcome.
[10:02] <Jason_> thank you genious!
[10:02] <Timeline> Nubbie/wj32/scottam: Ok clamav just jammed up ubuntu, so I'm going to go to bed.
[10:02] <pcollins> crimsun you rock
[10:02] <wj32> I always like hearing IT WORKS!! from newbs
[10:03] <scottam> timeline 'night
[10:03] <Nubbie> timeline: livecds are not good for doing stuff like that.
[10:03] <Timeline> Nubbie/wj32/scottam: Thanks for your help/
[10:03] <Nubbie> timeline: there's only so much memory available.
[10:03] <crimsun> Sevensins: amixer, cat /proc/asound/... , etc.
[10:03] <ubuntu__> yigal: cant i just use the find command to look in the entire harddrive in general?
[10:03] <wj32> Timeline: IT WORKS.
[10:03] <Nubbie> timeline: i'm sorry you wasted so much time.
[10:03] <wj32> with ubuntu im less productive
[10:03] <Nubbie> timeline: there are norton antivirus livecds you could use.
[10:03] <wj32> too much customization available
[10:03] <ubuntu__> yigal: because if i knew where it were, i wouldnt be trying to use a command to try and find it xD
[10:03] <mojojojo_> Nubbie:  do you know which one of the current gsteamer packages is for mp3?
[10:04] <friedo> is there a freshports.org like website for Ubuntu?
[10:04] <rausb0> "if a train station is where trains stop, a workstation is where..."
[10:04] <Timeline> Nubbie: Really? Free?
[10:04] <wj32> !getdeb
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getdeb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <Nubbie> mojojojo_: read this, and install everything on this page that you need.
[10:04] <wj32> !getdebs
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getdebs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <wj32> damn
[10:04] <Nubbie> !mp3 > mojojojo_
[10:04] <Nubbie> wj32: what are you trying to do?
[10:05] <Nubbie> friedo: no ubuntu supports it's packages in repositories.
[10:05] <wj32> Nubbie: show friedo where more ubuntu packages are. i dont acutally know what freshports.org has
[10:05] <eck> friedo: basically everything is maintained by the ubuntu repositories
[10:05] <chewed-on> Uh. . . which one should I download ?
[10:05] <chewed-on> Desktop Edition or Server edition ?
[10:05] <Nubbie> friedo: they are browsable on the internet and also in Synaptic.
[10:05] <eck> friedo: there are third party repositories, but they are not used extensivley
[10:05] <wj32> chewed-on: desktop
[10:05] <yiga1> ubuntu_: this will take a long time. but it will work.  if you type "sudo updatedb" in a terminal then you will have to wait a while - maybe 1/2 an hour if your windows partition is mounted.  then you can type "locate bookmarks.html" and it will find your bookmarks
[10:05] <chewed-on> Ubuntu 6.10 or Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[10:06] <Barracuda`zZzz> Is there any .NET IDE for Ubuntu?
[10:06] <yiga1> ubuntu_: the windows partition needs to be mounted
[10:06] <Nubbie> ubuntu_: do you still have your windows installeD?
[10:06] <wj32> yiga1: then why not do a linear search (more like a logarithmic, NTFS has b+trees) instead of building an index and searching just once?
[10:06] <Nubbie> ubuntu_: because there is another way to do it.
[10:06] <eck> chewed-on: i would go with 6.10, it depend on whether you want the newer one or the older one
[10:06] <mojojojo_> Nubbie:  thanks
[10:06] <friedo> thanks. I've been using dpkg-based distros since ages but I'm kinda new to Ubuntu and was looking for a website (not inside Ubuntu) to see for instance what packages got recently updated or what the latest alsa-driver package is
[10:06] <chewed-on> ?
[10:06] <eck> 6.06 LTS is the "long term support" version
[10:06] <Nubbie> mojojojo_: no problem.
[10:07] <chewed-on> What do they mean by support ?
[10:07] <Timeline> Nubbie: Where can I get one of those norton live CDs? are they free?
[10:07] <yiga1> chewed-on: use 6.10 because 6.06 is rather old now
[10:07] <crimsun> friedo: don't look at alsa-driver; I only update the kernel-side portion in linux-source-2.6.x
[10:07] <Hobbsee> chewed-on: security fixes only, for fixes for majorly broken stuff
[10:07] <chewed-on> OK
[10:07] <eck> chewed-on: normally releases are supported for 18 months, the LTS version is something like 3-5 years
[10:07] <ubuntu__> yigal: yesh, its installed; i dont care how long it takes as long as i can save something from this mess... (screwed up registry.. somehow everything in mydocuments deleted for no reason >_<)
[10:07] <Nubbie> friedo: the latest stuff will be available in synaptic, and update manager will take care of it all for you.
[10:07] <wj32> Timeline: just get a trial.
[10:07] <Sevensins> okay fine i must have done st important what ....dont ask me but it needs a restart now... we ll talk later ...thank you for your tipps so far crimsun
[10:07] <chewed-on> I see.
[10:07] <crimsun> Sevensins: ok
[10:07] <eck> (depending on whether you are using it as a desktop or server)
[10:07] <Hobbsee> chewed-on: not suitable if you want the latest apps, or libraries
[10:07] <yiga1> ubuntu_: ok then you know what to do, it will work
[10:07] <rausb0> eck: that still does not explain what "support" means
[10:07] <wj32> chewed-on: support means after support is gone, no more package updates for your version
[10:08] <Nubbie> timeline: windows is great when it's working fine, but fixing it is a big hassle.
[10:08] <Hobbsee> rausb0:  security fixes only, for fixes for majorly broken stuff
[10:08] <ubuntu__> yesh >_<!!!
[10:08] <ubuntu__> yigal: it took like 2minutes, it worked :D
[10:08] <rausb0> Hobbsee: thanks
[10:08] <friedo> Nubbie: is there any way to see updates on a website, though? I know I could just click on Synaptic once I'm on my Ubuntu machine
[10:08] <chewed-on> So that means I have to download the next version of Ubuntu, correct ?
[10:08] <Nubbie> friedo: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:08] <ubuntu__> yigal: thank you very much, sir, now to see if i can salvage anything else...
[10:08] <wj32> chewed-on: wait until april19
[10:08] <chewed-on> ?
[10:08] <chewed-on> Ubuntu Studios ?
[10:09] <chewed-on> :-)
[10:09] <Timeline> Nubbie: I agree, but it pays well to try :)
[10:09] <eck> chewed-on: normally releases are every six months, normal releases are supported 18 months so you could skip two releases and still be ok
[10:09] <chewed-on> I heard there's going to be Ubuntu studios coming out on April 2007.
[10:09] <wj32> Microsoft Open License (tm)
[10:09] <Barracuda`zZzz> Does anyone know a .Net IDE for Linux/Ubuntu?
[10:09] <yiga1> ubuntu_: after the database has been completed you should be able to find anything you can give a name for
[10:09] <Nubbie> timeline: ooohhh i see, you're making a little cash for this favour i see :D
[10:09] <wj32> Barracuda`zZzz: MonoDevelop
[10:09] <Nubbie> timeline: i don't blame you.
[10:09] <galorin> When trying to start mysqld I get : [ERROR]  Fatal error: Can't open and lock privilege tables: Incorrect file format 'host' What do I need to do to fix this so I don't lose my other databases?
[10:09] <WaZ`> a .net IDE for linux?
[10:10] <Barracuda`zZzz> yes
[10:10] <wj32> galorin: i've had that error. i just removed my database and started from scratch
[10:10] <WaZ`> I doubt that exists
[10:10] <wj32> galorin: sorry :)
[10:10] <chewed-on> wj32: what's happening on April 19 ?
[10:10] <scottam> 7
[10:10] <wj32> chewed-on: likely feisty release
[10:10] <WaZ`> .Net = windows, it's not portable
[10:10] <scottam> 7.04 release
[10:10] <chewed-on> ?
[10:10] <chewed-on> Why's that ?
[10:10] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: since microsoft doesn't release .net source, MONO was created as a partial replacement. it works very well.
[10:10] <eck> chewed-on: fedora works the same way, but releases are supported only 12 months (actually for the length of two fedora releases)
[10:10] <yiga1> me love feisty
[10:10] <rausb0> chewed-on: it is the release date for ubuntu 7.04 (feisty fawn)
[10:10] <aa^way> hm how to set classpath for Java and javac?
[10:10] <chewed-on> Right. . .
[10:10] <Timeline> Nubbie: I'll probably have to format this thing anyway, but thought I would try the virus scanner.
[10:10] <chewed-on> OK, I'll wait :)
[10:10] <wj32> WaZ`: wrong, the whole point of .NET is to be portable. well, MS says that
[10:11] <chewed-on> Almost about to click the download button hehe.
[10:11] <Nubbie> that and MONO applications can run with .NET in windows.
[10:11] <WaZ`> wj32: yeah MS "portable"
[10:11] <galorin> wj32 ok.. can't I just drop the data from /var/lib/mysql/$DATABASE back and tell mysql that it's there somehow?
[10:11] <yiga1> .NET compatible for who
[10:11] <wj32> Nubbie: yes, that fact is pretty weird.
[10:11] <Nubbie> so basically MONO > .NET
[10:11] <valehru> chewed-on, bugfixes, releases etc..
[10:11] <wj32> galorin: doesn't dropping remove?
[10:12] <wj32> galorin: i don't know. i'm not an expert on mysql
[10:12] <Timeline> Nubbie: At least I know I can extract the data off the drive with ubuntu and a USB stick before I format
[10:12] <Nubbie> mysql is no fun to work with.
[10:12] <Nubbie> timeline: yeah at least you have that. and you should still get paid for doing that too :D
[10:12] <chewed-on> What's new in Ubuntu 7 ?
[10:12] <galorin> I assumed you meant an apt-get --purge and reinstall.
[10:12] <Timeline> Nubbie: by the hour ;)
[10:13] <wj32> galorin: yep
[10:13] <wj32> galorin: i searched google, no answers
[10:13] <rausb0> chewed-on: i think #ubuntu+1 can answer that
[10:13] <Nubbie> chewed-on: ubuntu 7.04 has newer packages, optional desktop effects via compiz installed by default, and better artwork. as well as X.org 7.2 and bleeding kernels.
[10:13] <ubuntu__> yigal: well thank you again, i now need to redo all my projects tonight weee~ T_T
[10:13] <lomez> hey, anyone here? i have a question somewhat non-ubuntu related
[10:13] <wj32> galorin: what file system do you use?
[10:13] <chewed-on> Sounds good.
[10:14] <Timeline> Nubbie: Thing is I hate formatting becuase it's almost like the easy way out, the problem won.
[10:14] <galorin> I always google first.  It seems like a problem without a real fix.  Guess I need to remember to back up all my databases then...
[10:14] <ubuntu__> laters mates :x
[10:14] <rausb0> Nubbie: bleeding kernels :)) you mean bleeding edge kernels
[10:14] <Nubbie> lomez: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:14] <lomez> ok, thanks
[10:14] <Nubbie> rausb0: well a couple days ago they were bleeding thats for sure.
[10:14] <wj32> galorin: what fs?
[10:14] <WaZ`> Nubbie: lol
[10:14] <rausb0> Nubbie: hehe
[10:14] <Nubbie> rausb0: i'm just glad i don't have a SATA drive.
[10:14] <rausb0> Nubbie: oh yes, the sata issues...
[10:14] <wj32> galorin: please. i need the info :)
[10:15] <rausb0> Nubbie: i dont have sata either
[10:15] <Nubbie> i have sata on board, but never splurged for a new hard drive to use it.
[10:15] <galorin> xfs.  Already went through a xfs_repair because multiple power outages played havoc with my system.
[10:15] <Nubbie> why are you using XFS?
[10:15] <andres> #ubuntu-es
[10:15] <galorin> mysql didn't survive
[10:15] <wj32> galorin: GREAT! we have a connection. i used xfs too
[10:15] <wj32> galorin: XFS blanks unwritten extents.
[10:15] <Nubbie> XFS is journalled?
[10:15] <eck> Nubbie: yes
[10:16] <rausb0> Nubbie: afaik yes
[10:16] <lomez>  i use linux pretty much exclusively, but all my media files (music, movies, tv, etc.) is stored on my external hard drive
[10:16] <Nubbie> but still messes up on powerfailures.
[10:16] <wj32> galorin: which means if mysql was writing to your database and your system crashed, your db is now filled with nulls
[10:16] <lomez> its 120gb, usb-powered, my older brother (an IT guy) told me that formatted as fat32 (which it is currently) will cut down on its life
[10:16] <lomez> is that true?
[10:16] <eck> Nubbie: actually, kernel.org is planning on moving to xfs (may have done so already)
[10:16] <galorin> Yes, it's journalled, and a very mature filesystem at that.
[10:16] <rausb0> Nubbie: thats why i stick to ext3
[10:16] <Nubbie> lomez: as long as it supports usb mass storage spec, it will work with ubuntu.
[10:16] <wj32> galorin: check your db using a hex editor. check if its filled with zeros
[10:16] <Nubbie> eck: are you joking?
[10:17] <wj32> xfs is very high performance
[10:17] <WaZ`> lomez: fat32 shortens HDs lifes?
[10:17] <wj32> although not for small files.
[10:17] <lomez> right, but im saying will keeping at as fat32 lessen its life? i want to keep it both linux/windows so i can share my stuff with friends if need be
[10:17] <WaZ`> thats a new one
[10:17] <wj32> i dont see why they wouldnt switch to reiser
[10:17] <galorin> wj32, never used a hex editor before.. what program would I use?
[10:17] <wj32> galorin: ghex2
[10:17] <wj32> galorin: in the resps
[10:17] <Nubbie> lomez: and yeah, NTFS and FAT partitions tend to fragment more, making your hard drive have to work harder to find all your data, and EXT3 tends to write things in big chunks all together, no fragmentation, making it easier on your drive.
[10:17] <lomez> ah, thanks
[10:17] <wj32> XFS has the least fragmentation
[10:17] <Nubbie> lomez: so there is some truth to what your friend said.
[10:17] <lomez> is there an EXT3 support in Windows?
[10:17] <wj32> XFS has this thing called delayed allocation
[10:18] <Nubbie> lomez: it's prbably negligible though.
[10:18] <Barracuda`zZzz> is possible to emulate Visual Studio on Ubuntu, using Wine, or something like that?
[10:18] <wj32> which makes it even more prone to I-like-filling-files-with-zeros
[10:18] <Nubbie> lomez: not by windows, but yes there is 3rd party support.
[10:18] <lomez> ah, ok. many thanks!!
[10:18] <eck> Nubbie: here isthe article about why kernel.org is moving to xfs http://lwn.net/Articles/216948/
[10:18] <theone> @lomez: there is an EXt2 driver for winnt, 2k xp
[10:18] <WaZ`> Nubbie: I think MS has unixutils that can read ext2/3
[10:18] <rausb0> Nubbie: but thats only ext2 support, isnt it?
[10:18] <Nubbie> lomez: if you plan on using the drive with windows, i'd stick with FAT32/NTFS.
[10:18] <galorin> need to install it, running xubuntu
[10:18] <Nubbie> waz`: when has windows supported anything related to unix/linux?
[10:19] <lomez> well i primarily use ubuntu, probably 95% of the time. i just want to keep it Windows-r/wr so i can connect to to friends computers
[10:19] <Nubbie> rausb0: no i had ext3 support when i used linux.
[10:19] <theone> which will be able to read and write ext2 and ext3, but as it is an ext2 you'll miss the journalling functions when usign it with win
[10:19] <WaZ`> Nubbie: don't ask me, I don't have windows
[10:19] <theone> WaZ
[10:19] <rausb0> Nubbie: ext3 including writing or just read only?
[10:19] <Nubbie> waz`: lol.
[10:19] <Nubbie> rausb0: i think it may have been read only.
[10:19] <Ayabara> I use picasa to edit pics and set iptc captions. I have problems with it not showing me the nordic letter  (the a with a circle above it) in my folder names. anyone know how I can fix this?
[10:19] <Barracuda`zZzz> is possible to emulate Visual Studio on Ubuntu, using Wine, or something like that? Monodevelop seens to... suck. :P
[10:19] <wj32> galorin: any luck with hexeditor?
[10:20] <lomez> did you check the Wine database?
[10:20] <Nubbie> but for his use, i think readonly would be fine. but the advantages are so non-existant he should stick with FAT32.
[10:20] <theone> Barracuda`zZzz: appdb.winehq.org
[10:20] <makuseru> when is feisty going ot be out?
[10:20] <Nubbie> lomez: stick with whatever your drive is already using.
[10:20] <rausb0> makuseru: april 19th
[10:20] <Nubbie> !feisty | makuseru
[10:20] <ubotu> makuseru: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:20] <lomez> thanks
[10:20] <Nubbie> lomez: because installing 3rd party software on your friend's computers is no fun.
[10:21] <Nubbie> lomez :)
[10:21] <lomez> barracuda, Visual Studio has been rated as Bronze on Gentoo for wine. so im guessing it may run, but its probably going to be buggy
[10:21] <lomez> true true
[10:21] <galorin> wj32 the 'host' table in question is filled with zeros
[10:22] <wj32> galorin: yep. thats it. your db is now officially dead.
[10:22] <Barracuda`zZzz> lomez, ok! thank you!
[10:22] <wj32> galorin: wait
[10:22] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: if you are truly concerned about having portable applications, i would make the switch to mono.
[10:22] <lomez> also if you want to be a bit insane, you could always emulate windows with VMWare or something
[10:23] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: banshee, a project i'm very familiar with, is written in Mono, and is currently being ported to windows no problem. windows applications written mono could be just as easily ported to linux in the same fashion.
[10:23] <galorin> Shouldn't I be able to use mysql_create_system_tables or whatever it's called?
[10:23] <galorin> can't make it any more dead...
[10:23] <wj32> galorin: wait more
[10:24] <theone> galorin: back it up using mysqldump on commandline.
[10:24] <eck> Nubbie: there are some caveats, specifically if you use winforms
[10:24] <wj32> galorin: what is the host table meant to contain/
[10:24] <galorin> theone, mysqldump requires a running server.  I don't have one of those.
[10:24] <WaZ`> Nubbie: Mono is an awefull name for an IDE though
[10:24] <wj32> galorin: mine is empty
[10:24] <theone> galorin: oh, sry.
[10:24] <galorin> wj32, the host table I think is the hostname of the system that the server is running on.
[10:24] <wj32> galorin: maybe i could send you my host table?
[10:25] <Nubbie> waz`: are you concerned about the name over it's function? mono is C##, lets just call it that.
[10:25] <wj32> galorin: again, my host table is blank
[10:25] <galorin> are you checking host.MYI or another table?
[10:26] <Nubbie> eck: a small issue compared to if you were to convert .NET to mono.
[10:26] <Barracuda`zZzz> Nubbie, I work with .NET/C#, and I want to change my system to Ubuntu, but I have this "little" problem... called Visual Studio.
[10:26] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: what's the problem?
[10:26] <wj32> galorin: i'm checking the host table using MySQL Query Browser
[10:26] <Nubbie> baracuda`zzzz: locked into a proprietary program are we?? heheh.
[10:26] <Barracuda`zZzz> my system, I mean, my Workstation. I can't change the server ( W2k3S).
[10:26] <oxbat> hello
[10:26] <oxbat> what's the time?
[10:27] <galorin> Ah, I wonder...
[10:27] <Barracuda`zZzz> The problem is the IDE.
[10:27] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: maybe mono-develop will work for you.
[10:27] <Nubbie> i don't know.
[10:27] <wj32> select * from mysql.host reveals: "Empty set (0.00 sec)"
[10:27] <wj32> galorin: would you like my host table?
[10:27] <oxbat> what's the time in your area?
[10:28] <wj32> why not give it a try?
[10:28] <galorin> As long as it arrives in a format I can use, sure
[10:28] <eck> Barracuda`zZzz: afaik there isn't really anything in the linux world that approaches visual studio.... maybe eclipse
[10:29] <Nubbie> `tis 4:28A over here.
[10:29] <Barracuda`zZzz> eck, I'm searching for an eclipse plugin for .Net/C#, right now. :)
[10:29] <wj32> galorin: there are three files related to the host table. which ones are blank?
[10:29] <MolePrince> !feisty
[10:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:29] <Nubbie> i have some major insomnia, and i just had a huge ukrainian easter dinner, so my stomach is churning.
[10:29] <Barracuda`zZzz> I think Mono-Develop doesn't have... almost any features that I'm used in VStudio.
[10:29] <MolePrince> !release
[10:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:29] <jandro> Good morning from Spain. I've just installed network-manager-gnome, but it doesn't detect any available network. My card uses ipw2200 and works fine. How can I make it work?
[10:30] <eck> Barracuda`zZzz: but i am just a simple vim user
[10:30] <wj32> galorin: ?
[10:31] <galorin> sorry, not familiar with sending stuff through IRC
[10:31] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: well, you could always run a virtual machine.
[10:31] <phobos> jandro, did you use the latest driver?
[10:31] <wj32> galorin: no, could you answer my question? which of the three files are blank?
[10:32] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: i'd say if visual studio is the only thing holding you back, it might be tolerable to use in Qemu or VMware.
[10:32] <wj32> galorin: theres host.frm, host.myd, host.myi. which ones are blank
[10:32] <galorin> it's the host .MYI and host.MYD
[10:32] <wj32> galorin: ok. get my .tar.gz
[10:32] <phobos> i had a problem with network-manager myself and stumbled accross some posts from people having problems with their ipw2200
[10:32] <jandro> phobos: how can i see if it is the lastest driver?
[10:32] <galorin> I've also got a 3 year old demanding attention, and kids shows... can't get them without the databases.
[10:33] <phobos> jandro, maybe the best thing you can do is google for your problem
[10:33] <Nubbie> galorin: you're using myth?
[10:33] <galorin> Nubbie, yep
[10:33] <wj32> galorin: what?
[10:33] <Nubbie> galorin: and shame on you for putting computers before your children :D
[10:33] <jandro> phobos, ok, thanks, i'll have a look
[10:33] <Nubbie> galorin: lol. well aren't the files still on your computer?
[10:33] <Nubbie> galorin: and usable?
[10:33] <Barracuda`zZzz> Nubbie, I think its the way... I'm gonna try using vmware/qemu.
[10:34] <yur1> ikonia: Hi! I guess you don't remember me (a newbie asked you about PXE boot), but i'm back here to thank for your support...
[10:34] <wj32> galorin: heres another link: http://wj32.50webs.com/files/host.tar.gz
[10:34] <ferronica> Can we make Ascii word art
[10:34] <Barracuda`zZzz> Thank you for the help! :)
[10:34] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: maybe you could convince your employers to consider mono.
[10:34] <ferronica> in ubuntu 6.10
[10:34] <wj32> galorin: tell me when you've got the file
[10:34] <galorin> files are there, but the recorded shows have names like 132301112007.avi
[10:34] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: good luck, have fun with ubuntu.
[10:34] <ferronica> Can we make Ascii word art in ubuntu 6.10?
[10:34] <wj32> galorin; remember, only replace the host.myi and the host.myd
[10:35] <Nubbie> ferronica: yeah there is a plugin for mplayer.
[10:35] <wj32> galorin: tell me if it works
[10:35] <Nubbie> ferronica: it's quite fun.
[10:35] <Raubkopierer> Hi.. I have a problem with ndiswrapper... I installed the drivers but I haven't a device called wlan0 in ifconfig
[10:36] <wj32> galorin?
[10:36] <rambo3> Raubkopierer, eth1 ?
[10:36] <galorin> wj32, it wasn't happy with the transfer.. want to try again?
[10:36] <Nubbie> raubkopierer: man i told you the USB dongles for wifi are not worth the plastic they're made from.
[10:36] <wj32> galorin: http://wj32.50webs.com/files/host.tar.gz
[10:36] <saispo> hi
[10:36] <saispo> flash and java work on 64bits architecture ?
[10:36] <wj32> Tag.
[10:36] <wj32> Ya.
[10:37] <saispo> natively or with nspluginwrapper ?
[10:37] <Raubkopierer> rambo3: nope
[10:37] <wj32> saispo: Ich wei nicht.
[10:38] <Raubkopierer> Nubbie: so what?
[10:38] <wj32> galorin: works?
[10:38] <Nubbie> raubkopierer: i would personally just spend $10 and get a card that works without hassles.
[10:39] <galorin> same problem, but this time for the "user" table.  I don't think that one will be as easy to fix.
[10:39] <wj32> galorin: nope.
[10:39] <wj32> galorin: wait.
[10:39] <galorin> waiting
[10:39] <ZPM> ok im not sure weather to ask this here or in kubuntu because im using KDE but my distro is Xubuntu, when i first started using KDE all the screensavers were there and they worked. now (and i dont know when they did) they arent working and they dont even appear at all in the control center?
[10:40] <barata> hallo, anybody uses wacom graphire4?
[10:40] <Nubbie> ZPM: you're using kde on an xubuntu machine?
[10:40] <Raubkopierer> Nubbie: only when it doesn't work
[10:41] <ZPM> ya its my first linux OS and i have a lower end PC so i installed xubuntu then installed gnome and kde to check them out
[10:41] <Nubbie> raubkopierer: i thought it wasn't working, and that you couldn't get it to work with ndiswrapper. how could it not work any more?
[10:41] <Raubkopierer> my english is so bad >.<
[10:41] <anandanbu> does anyone know how to change the permissions of the /var/www to add our contents
[10:41] <wj32> galorin: this might take a while./
[10:41] <Nubbie> ZPM: fair enough.
[10:41] <ceeg> Regarding the usage of the Ubuntu name and the Ubuntu logo. Are they free to use/modify for non profit purposes? Where is the licensing information?
[10:41] <densin> if apti-get somepackage and wrong setup, how to setup it again?
[10:41] <ZPM> Nubbie: so any idea on why they disappeared?
[10:41] <barata> never mind ... it works well! http://rene.holodeck1.com/new-toy-wacom-graphire4-tablet/2007/02/02/
[10:41] <Raubkopierer> there are some people that got it working... Nubbie
[10:42] <galorin> I don't think I've got a while.. what would we be doing?  hex editing and the like?  Maybe I can just re-create my system tables and my users... re-make the mythtv database and drop the old backup into it.
[10:42] <Nubbie> raubkopierer: then you should follow the guides i know some of them have  written. thats the only way to get it to work.
[10:43] <anandanbu> how do i host a wordpress in my system i have apache and mysql installed
[10:43] <Raubkopierer> Nubbie: I follow the guides.. everything is the same... only wlan0 isn't where...
[10:43] <Raubkopierer> *there
[10:43] <Raubkopierer> >.<
[10:43] <ferronica> Nubbie: mplayer?
[10:44] <Nubbie> ferronica: yes google mplayer plus whatever it is you were trying to do. there is a plugin for it.
[10:44] <ferronica> Nubbie: mplayer is for playing movies not for ascii maker
[10:44] <eck> anandanbu: just a guess -- apt-get install wordpress
[10:44] <Nubbie> ferronica: i think you can export frames of acsii though, thats the thing.
[10:44] <anandanbu> no how to i run it in my system
[10:44] <Raubkopierer> Nubbie: http://sannremy.free.fr/ubuntu/index.php?2007/02/10/2-installation-du-dongle-wifi-netgear-wg111t
[10:45] <anandanbu> iam unable to edit the www folder in the /var
[10:45] <Nubbie> ferronica: aka: view picture in mplayer using acsii plugin, and then save the frame to a text.
[10:45] <Nubbie> ferronica: i don't know if it's possible, but i was just trying to point you in the direction of what i though COULD be possible.
[10:46] <jandro> phobos: i've been looking through google but i feel i little lost among all the pages that appear, do you know any howto or tutorial about howto make it work?
[10:46] <aa^way> what is a location for Desktop ?
[10:46] <jandro> I am using edgy
[10:47] <aa^way> full location, like is it /usr/erti(my username)/Desktop or witchone?
[10:47] <Nubbie> jandro: make what work?
[10:47] <Nubbie> aa^way: ~./Desktop
[10:47] <jandro> Nubbie: to detect and connect networks i mean
[10:47] <Nubbie> aa^way: /home/<user>/Desktop
[10:47] <jandro> network-manager-gnome
[10:47] <Nubbie> jandro: is your network using DHCP?
[10:48] <ZPM> i take it no one knows why my screensavers dissapeared =}
[10:48] <Nubbie> ZPM: nope.
[10:48] <Nubbie> ZPM: :o
[10:48] <jandro> Nubbie: yes, it is. I can scan networks from iwlist but not from this desktop applet
[10:48] <ZPM> v_v
[10:48] <Nubbie> jandro: i dunno man.
[10:49] <wj32> galorin: galorin: http://wj32.50webs.com/files/user.tar.gz
[10:49] <wj32> galorin: user: root2 password: password
[10:49] <ferronica> Nubbie: i anna creat ascii
[10:49] <jandro> Nubbie: ok, thanks
[10:49] <ferronica> Nubbie: like  we find in .nfo
[10:49] <wj32> galorin: you there?
[10:50] <galorin> yeah.  I'm being pulled away by my kid.  LOL
[10:50] <wj32> refer to my above posts
[10:50] <Nubbie> ferronica: google linux acsii generator or something.
[10:50] <Nubbie> ferronica: i dunno what else to tell you.
[10:50] <wj32> galorin: tell me when done. this time replace all three files
[10:52] <galorin> wj32, I just did a check, and most of the .MYI files are blank, so I'd need to get your entire mysql database off you, and twek it.  That's a heapload of work.  I'm going to try removing it and reinstalling.  Won't take but a moment.
[10:52] <san_diego_guy> hi
[10:52] <rausb0> ferronica: you could use netpbm to convert a pixel file to ascii, but it is not exactly what you want i guess
[10:53] <wj32> stupid xfs
[10:53] <wj32> anyway, always have backups
[10:53] <Nubbie> galorin: thats what i would've done from the start. you should maybe delete the mysql table for myth completely beforehand though.
[10:53] <RawSewage> does anyone know of a program that will search and replace text in multiple files
[10:53] <Nubbie> galorin: that way when myth is being reinstalled, mysql won't complain about the table already existing.
[10:53] <ferronica> rausb0: you mean photo file
[10:53] <Nubbie> rawsewage: grep <--
[10:54] <RawSewage> Nubbie, ty
[10:54] <rausb0> RawSewage: find and sed
[10:54] <Nubbie> sed
[10:54] <Nubbie> thats what i meant
[10:54] <Nubbie> :D
[10:54] <galorin> well, I'm going to see how it goes.  Worst case scenario, I lose 80+ gigs of recorded TV.
[10:54] <Nubbie> galorin: how is that!
[10:54] <wj32> galorin: what? your tv DATA is in your database?
[10:54] <wj32> wtf
[10:54] <RawSewage> rausb0,  find and sed?
[10:54] <Nubbie> galorin: i doubt that highly.
[10:54] <rausb0> RawSewage: yes
[10:55] <Nubbie> galorin: have another look around your filesystem.
[10:55] <galorin> no, just the data that tells me what weirdly named .avi file is which tv show.
[10:55] <RawSewage> rausb0, what is that
[10:55] <rausb0> RawSewage: standard unix command line tools
[10:55] <wj32> galorin: oh
[10:55] <rausb0> RawSewage: find searches file using a given pattern and sed can replace regular expressions
[10:56] <Nubbie> galorin: so not all is lost....
[10:56] <Nubbie> galorin: you just lose the metadata off it.
[10:56] <wj32> galorin: dont they have the metadata inside the avi files?
[10:56] <Nubbie> wj32: i doubt that.
[10:56] <RawSewage> what about grep
[10:57] <Nubbie> wj32: avi's are just raw videos, i don't think avi's have metadata support.
[10:57] <RawSewage> I want to replace strings in batch files
[10:57] <Nubbie> rawsewage: i'm an idiot, you want to use find and sed like somebody else said.
[10:57] <wj32> Nubbie: avi is a container format. it definitely supports metadata
[10:57] <galorin> with about 10 different shows, each with 6 episodes each.. plus a few Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli films recorded off the tv...
[10:57] <Nubbie> wj32: mmmmkay
[10:57] <RawSewage> Nubbie, ok
[10:58] <Nubbie> rawsewage: man find and man sed <----
[10:58] <rausb0> RawSewage: first make a copy of your batch files and try to work on them so you dont mess things up
[10:58] <wj32> Nubbie: google "avi metadata"
[10:58] <muryoutaisuu> hey im a complete novice at everything and was wondering what i would need to do to get the experience in program to actually help with development
[10:58] <Nubbie> wj32: thanks but i'm not that interested :) i believe you.
[10:58] <rausb0> RawSewage: copy them to a separate directory
[10:58] <RawSewage> rausb0, can you give me an example line if I want to replace  Dog with Cat in  all files in folder Test
[10:58] <Nubbie> muryoutaisuu: file bugs.
[10:58] <rausb0> RawSewage: okay
[10:58] <wj32> muryoutaisuu: learn assembly. then c. then c++. then c#
[10:58] <bergntu> hi everyone, can i find here help about wifi usb adapter US Robotics 805422 in Ubuntu 7.04?
[10:59] <muryoutaisuu> wj32: ok where can i go to learn those?
[10:59] <wj32> !c++ | muryoutaisuu
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <Nubbie> muryoutaisuu: or if you have decent digital art skills you could maybe help out with artwork teams. or if you speak a non-english language, you could help out with translations
[10:59] <wj32> muryoutaisuu: actually, learn python
[10:59] <rausb0> RawSewage: find Test -type f -exec sed -i~ 's/Dog/Cat/g' {} \;
[10:59] <Nubbie> muryoutaisuu: check ubuntu forums, people would be glad to point you in the right directions there.
[10:59] <RawSewage> rausb0, thx a lot
[11:00] <wj32> muryoutaisuu: but mainly, refer to Nubbie
[11:00] <delcoyote> muryoutaisuu: google "C course" "python course"
[11:00] <Hellevator> wj32, I disagree. Why would someone learn assembly first? There is a high chance they will get discouraged and give up.
[11:00] <galorin> ok, I think it works.  Just need to make sure my shows are still there... hang on.
[11:00] <yur1> muryoutaisuu: python and java are good options!
[11:00] <Nubbie> hellevator: python is not assembly?
[11:00] <wj32> Hellevator: huh? assembly is the simplest complete language i have ever seen
[11:00] <dunstabulos> !wifi | bergntu
[11:00] <ubotu> bergntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:00] <Nubbie> ohh sorry hellevator.
[11:01] <rausb0> RawSewage: the -i~ option of sed makes backup copies of the files changed, appending ~ to the file name
[11:01] <Hellevator> wj32, complete.. ok. but not practical for new programmers.
[11:02] <RawSewage> rausb0, ok cool
[11:02] <wj32> Hellevator: completely practical. it is very very simple. simple commands, simple registers, simple everything
[11:02] <Nubbie> hellevator: it's like that turtle program you learn in programming, or chipwits. its a good place to start.
[11:02] <yur1> Hellevator: i agree with you... top-down is the best way for
[11:02] <Nubbie> to get the logic down.
[11:03] <muryoutaisuu> wj32: sorry i accidentaly logged out then
[11:03] <rausb0> RawSewage: if you want more info, read the manual pages of find and sed  (man find, man sed)
[11:03] <muryoutaisuu> wj32: where should i go to learn those languages
[11:03] <maarten_> hi
[11:03] <wj32> Dive into Python. search google. i dont know where it is
[11:03] <Nubbie> muryoutaisuu: theres some good guides on the internet..
[11:03] <RawSewage> rausb0, ok
[11:03] <wj32> www.diveintopython.org
[11:03] <_goofy_> is it possible to run 2 instances xserver
[11:04] <Nubbie> everything is on the internet, and google is always the way to find it.
[11:04] <wj32> _goofy_: yes!
[11:04] <yur1> muryoutaisuu: go deeper on google, dude
[11:04] <sorcerer> hey guys .. umm when i plug in my camera to extract pictures will ubuntu automaticaly mount it or do i have to do something?
[11:04] <wj32> Nubbie: not everything
[11:04] <Nubbie> _goofy_: two monitors?
[11:04] <galorin> wj32, Nubbie I've still got metadata.  and the entire mythtv database intact.  Here's what I did.  removed the data from /var/lib/mysql/mysql/, apt-get --purge remove mysql-server-5.0, and when asked if I wanted to remove databases used by all versions of mysql, I answered no.  Then I reinstalled mysql-server, and re-created my mythtv user ith the same password as before.
[11:04] <crazy_penguin> Hi all!
[11:04] <_goofy_> i have 2 moniter
[11:04] <wj32> galorin: wtf.
[11:04] <Nubbie> galorin: so the problem is solved
[11:04] <wj32> sorcerer: auto
[11:05] <galorin> wj32, well, it worked. :-)
[11:05] <maarten_> does anyone have experience with via s3 unichrome pro vga adapter & Beryl?
[11:05] <wj32> galorin: damn damn damn. i shouldve done that
[11:05] <sorcerer> nice so i can extract files and what not
[11:05] <Nubbie> !anyone | maarten_
[11:05] <ubotu> maarten_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:05] <wj32> i give up too easily :)
[11:05] <Nubbie> maarten_: and yes, yes I do.
[11:05] <Hellevator> wj32, simple commands.  I disagree about simple registers. Most of the registers have specific purposes... and hard to remember names (at first).  Stuff you should not have to worry about when starting programming.  I don't want to get into a debate but I just get kind of upset when experienced programmers recommend assembly to newbies.  Its really just setting them up for failure unless they have a teacher to walk them through the
[11:05] <Hellevator>  process.
[11:06] <galorin> ta, and now you know what to do next time your database craps out.
[11:06] <wj32> Hellevator: mm. ok
[11:06] <galorin> daily mysqldump of all databases.
[11:06] <czr> assembly has nothing to do with programming anyway
[11:06] <maarten_> @nubbie, where did you get the drivers...
[11:06] <maarten_> I cant seem to get it working
[11:06] <Hellevator> i realize your changed your recommendation to python so its no big deal.
[11:06] <wj32> assembly was the first human-readable programming
[11:06] <Nubbie> maarten_: somebody was in here the other day trying to get that working. Apparently unichrome drivers are fully accelerated, but still doesn't work. i don't know i don't use an S3 card.
[11:06] <galorin> g2g seya
[11:06] <Nubbie> galorin: peace.
[11:07] <Nubbie> ........ i didn't get a chance to say goodbye.,
[11:07] <Nubbie> :l
[11:07] <czr> wj32, so you're commending people to start writing programs on pdp-11 then? :-)
[11:07] <wj32> czr: so... it is programming
[11:07] <czr> +re
[11:07] <wj32> czr: no, assembly is available for the intel processors i presume
[11:07] <czr> well, I meant more like "programming is separate from the specific languages"
[11:07] <Nubbie> assembly is available for everything is it not.......
[11:07] <czr> more or less
[11:07] <Hellevator> wj32, lol I presume it is as well
[11:07] <Nubbie> lol.
[11:08] <czr> there are some chips that don't have user-visible asm.
[11:08] <maarten_> hmm  that's too bad...
[11:08] <czr> microcoded basic translators and such, they're pretty evil.
[11:08] <wj32> if you're talking about chips now
[11:08] <wj32> then...
[11:08] <wj32> anyway...
[11:09] <wj32> !offtopic
[11:09] <wj32> !say something
[11:09] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about say something - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <Geoffrey2> can someone point me to directions to set up Ubuntu to accept incoming calls?
[11:09] <wj32> why is this channel quiet now
[11:09] <maarten_> My ubuntu supports 3d because if I type glxgears it works... but Beryl still doesn't work...
[11:10] <rausb0> wj32: well it's sunday morning (at least here)
[11:10] <dj-fu> glxgears doesn't imply that beryl will work :\
[11:10] <slvmchn> how do i set my desktop for 16 bit colors instead of 32 bit colors
[11:10] <wj32> rausb0: here its sunday evening
[11:10] <maarten_> Well I just read that on the net...
[11:10] <densin> aptitude update  got a lot error bzip2
[11:10] <rausb0> wj32: 11:10am
[11:10] <Nubbie> geoffrey2: like a telephone?
[11:10] <wj32> 32-bit colour depth?
[11:11] <wj32> you mean 24-bit.
[11:11] <wj32> unless our monitors have holes in them or something
[11:11] <wj32> no alpha-blended monitors yet
[11:11] <Nubbie> geoffrey2: read this, http://www.schnozzle.org/~coldwell/answering_machine/
[11:11] <maarten_> but if i type beryl
[11:11] <maarten_> it says:
[11:11] <delcoyote> hi all noob here, how can i stop cd/dvdrom from beeing idle? looks like if its burning, and cant eject the volume, is there a command from shell to kill application?
[11:11] <maarten_> Detected xserver                                : AIGLX
[11:11] <maarten_> Checking Display :0.0 ...
[11:11] <maarten_> Checking for XComposite extension               : failed
[11:11] <maarten_> No composite extension
[11:11] <maarten_> beryl: No composite extension
[11:11] <maarten_> (sorry for spam)
[11:12] <wj32> maarten_: do you use an ati card?
[11:12] <Nubbie> !paste > maarten_
[11:12] <czr> delcoyote, you can try 'eject' on the command line
[11:12] <delcoyote> thanks czr
[11:12] <czr> delcoyote, it depends on what's keeping the disk busy, but try that first
[11:12] <maarten_> no, i use a via s3 unichrome Pro vga adapter
[11:12] <czr> disc even
[11:12] <maarten_> =\
[11:12] <Geoffrey2> no, as in connecting one computer to another via dial-up
[11:12] <delcoyote> i was using brasero to burn, put the dvd back in and went bananas
[11:13] <Nubbie> geoffrey2: why not just use ethernet? or a serial connection?
[11:13] <czr> Geoffrey2, you'll want to google for "PPP HOWTO". ubuntu doesn't have anything special per se in setting up pppd
[11:13] <InfamousM> hi
[11:13] <czr> Geoffrey2, there are no graphical GUIs for that if that's what you're after
[11:13] <Nubbie> czr: no he's trying to have one computer dial another, not the internet.
[11:13] <czr> Nubbie, he'll need pppd anyway
[11:13] <muryoutaisuu> where do i download assembly?
[11:13] <czr> I didn't assume he wanted to "dial internet"
[11:14] <stevethepirate> sigh!!! um, i tried installing nvidia-glx, it apt-get'ed fine, but now, since i restarted x, it crashed x and gives this fatal error: "FATAL: Error running install command for NVIDIA kernel module" and "(EE): NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module"... can someone please help!!
[11:14] <dj-fu> reinstall nv drivers
[11:14] <stevethepirate> i did
[11:14] <stevethepirate> no effect
[11:14] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: did you reconfigure xserver-xorg afterwards?
[11:14] <czr> muryoutaisuu, you can start here: http://asm.sourceforge.net/
[11:14] <muryoutaisuu> czr: thanks
[11:14] <stevethepirate> Nubbie: no. the ubuntu guide said nothing about that.
[11:14] <InfamousM> can anyone help me?
[11:15] <stevethepirate> Nubbie: should i have?
[11:15] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure that the correct nvidia drivers are selected.
[11:15] <Nubbie> !anyone | infamousm
[11:15] <ubotu> infamousm: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:15] <HessiaNerd> anyone know how to change the "starting points" page in konqueror?
[11:17] <aa^way> please really simple help, trying to do "PATH=/home/erti/Desktop/k/bin" but it says no folder found
[11:17] <delcoyote> i tryed this i get this answer : umount /dev/cdrom
[11:17] <delcoyote> umount: /dev/hdc is not mounted (according to mtab)
[11:17] <thill2708> in amarok, how do I access my ipod nano? I've plugged it in, clicked configure, typed "connect %d" and "eject %d", but whenever I click connect, it still brings up the configure box. what's the deal?
[11:17] <aa^way> but on Desktop there is folder called k inside there is bin
[11:17] <aa^way> why
[11:17] <Nubbie> aa^way: why are you doing that?
[11:17] <maarten_> if i type beryl and it says: Checking for XComposite extension               : failed
[11:17] <czr> delcoyote, did you try eject?
[11:18] <maarten_> does it mean my drivers aren't installed or not correct?
[11:18] <delcoyote> yes czr and no luck
[11:18] <Nubbie> maarten_: you need to edit your xorg.conf file to enable xcomposite extension.
[11:18] <aa^way> Nubbie, trying to set up my java folder
[11:18] <aa^way> got any suggestions?
[11:18] <delcoyote> via command line and x
[11:18] <czr> delcoyote, what did you last do with the disc?
[11:18] <Nubbie> maarten_: how you do that for your specific graphics card, i haven't the slightest clue.
[11:18] <maarten_> @nubbie, should I put it in true?
[11:18] <rausb0> aa^way: if you set PATH to this value _only_, all the standard binaries in /bin, /usr/bin, ... won't be found
[11:18] <delcoyote> finished burning data with brasero
[11:19] <Nubbie> maarten_: i can't say what to do, because i don't know what the outcome will be
[11:19] <czr> delcoyote, hmm, I assuem you already closed the program (don't know what brasero is)?
[11:19] <wj32> maarten_: yes
[11:19] <rausb0> aa^way: you'll rather extend the PATH variable: PATH=${PATH}:/home/erti/...
[11:19] <Nubbie> delcoyote: why don't you use gnome-burner ?
[11:19] <maarten_> @nubbie, well i tried enabled 30 minutes ago...
[11:19] <maarten_> ubuntu didn't like that :)
[11:19] <delcoyote> i did close the program :-D its a burning cd/dvd application, thanks anyway czr
[11:19] <maarten_> i'm gonna try true in stead of enabled and post the outcome here
[11:19] <Nubbie> delcoyote: sorry, gnome-baker
[11:19] <wj32> maarten_: drivers.
[11:20] <czr> delcoyote, you might try: killall -9 brasero   (on the command line)
[11:20] <stevethepirate> Nubbie: hello
[11:20] <delcoyote> i normally do i just wanted to try this brasero Nubbie :-D
[11:20] <maarten_> wj32: what drivers i use?
[11:20] <Nubbie> delcoyote: maybe it's because brazero calls on some other programs to actually do the burning.
[11:20] <delcoyote> thanks czr ill do that
[11:20] <Jaso1> Tried to install 2nd hard-drive. I installed ubuntu to both hardrives but believe that the 2nd hard-drive is non-functional... we have disconnected it. Now when we boot up with second hard-drive disconnected we get a blinking cursor. I'm pretty sure that GRUB is trying to boot to second harddrive..(the second harddrive was slave...the primary drive is master)  When we press the F2 key...it takes about 4 minutes but boots into ubuntu.
[11:20] <czr> delcoyote, but I've never used brasero, so it might have some weird other programs running on the background
[11:20] <aa^way> okay but it still wont find it
[11:20] <Nubbie> delcoyote: have a look in system monitor.
[11:20] <aa^way> i dont get it =
[11:20] <stevethepirate> Um that seemed to work by reconfiguring that.. how, apart from the fact the it works can i tell if its installed properly?
[11:21] <maarten_> wj32: I use the standard via drivers system>admin>synaptic
[11:21] <InfamousM> im a noob in linux distros....how do you install with ubuntu?
[11:21] <Nubbie> jaso1: edit your grub configuration.
[11:21] <czr> by the way, does anyone know of a command line automatic way of configuring the xserver? (without dpkg-reconfigure or answering any questions).
[11:21] <Nubbie> jaso1: so it points to the right root partition on the right drive to boot.
[11:21] <Jaso1>  Nubbie I know I need to edit grub
[11:21] <stevethepirate> czr: edit /etc/X11/X11.cong
[11:21] <delcoyote> thanks Nubbie czr ill restart comp that will help :-D
[11:21] <stevethepirate> * .cong
[11:21] <Nubbie> czr: machines are stupid. they required input.
[11:21] <stevethepirate> *. conf
[11:21] <czr> stevethepirate, note the "automatic" word :-)
[11:21] <stevethepirate> oh
[11:21] <stevethepirate> ah
[11:22] <stevethepirate> sorry man.
[11:22] <Jaso1> Nubbie could you read my post at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409918 It exaplins my configuration
[11:22] <Jaso1> I don't know how to configure GRUB properly
[11:22] <Nubbie> jaso1: read grub's man page, and edit the grub configuration to point to the correct drive.
[11:22] <aa^way> wow
[11:22] <delcoyote> brb :-D
[11:22] <aa^way> i cant beleive it i got it working
[11:22] <stevethepirate> Nubbie: how would i start x ?
[11:22] <Nubbie> jaso1: then thats what you need to look up.
[11:23] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: startx <--- lol
[11:23] <stevethepirate> no!! like in normal like "Login here mode"
[11:23] <Nubbie> stevethepirate, that may not be the best way
[11:23] <czr> grub manual page is pretty short btw Nubbie
[11:23] <czr> apt-get install grub-doc; info grub
[11:23] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart <---
[11:23] <stevethepirate> i have a feeling thers a /bin command to do it
[11:23] <stevethepirate> ah
[11:23] <stevethepirate> thats it
[11:23] <stevethepirate> Nubbie: how would i tell if my drivers are working?
[11:23] <Nubbie> czr: i didn't know that. somebody should fill that manpage up.
[11:24] <InfamousM> how do you install programs in ubuntu?
[11:24] <zaphands> Hello. Gaim doesn't open firefox when I have new mail. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:24] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: if your computer boots properly, it's working. if it's not booting, it's broken.
[11:24] <Nubbie> :D
[11:24] <czr> Nubbie, the man page states that it's not up to date and one should use info to get it. the grub-doc package just isn't installed by default in ubuntu.
[11:24] <stevethepirate> Nubbie: sorry..
[11:24] <Nubbie> oh so if you followed the manpage you would know that :) so suggesting you read the man page is alright
[11:24] <Nubbie> :D
[11:24] <stevethepirate> i need to start kde.
[11:24] <stevethepirate> is that kdm?
[11:25] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:25] <Nubbie> yeah.
[11:25] <stevethepirate> sweet.
[11:25] <stevethepirate> thanks man
[11:25] <czr> Nubbie, most people don't know what info is and the man page doesn't say that the 'info grub' command won't work because the package isn't installed :-)
[11:25] <Nubbie> don't thank me yet.
[11:25] <Nubbie> czr: i wouldn't know what to do with info. i tend to rely on google more than man/info pages.
[11:25] <czr> Nubbie, to add to injury, when info doesn't find the requested info page, it will display the man page (the same one that user started with ;-)
[11:25] <aa^way> where does my Javac attempt read files from?
[11:26] <Jaso1> Nubbie: asll I get is a really short page...I tried installing the grub doc..but it still takes me to that shirt page...if you read on my message post. It shows my current hard drive specs. and my current grub config..could somebody PLEASE look at this post and tell me how to configure my menu.list file properly  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409918
[11:26] <InfamousM> =(
[11:26] <Nubbie> czr: feisty has a very cool new feature however for newbies. when they try a command that does not exist, it tells them how to install that program if it's in repositories.
[11:26] <Nubbie> that is very slick.
[11:26] <czr> Nubbie, which would solve nothing in this case
[11:27] <stevethepirate> sigh
[11:27] <rausb0> czr: besides, info has most unintuitive keyboard controls
[11:27] <stevethepirate> i have a problem.
[11:27] <czr> but agreed, it's pretty nice. as if linux distros weren't slow enough :-)
[11:27] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: yeargh i tried m'hatey.
[11:27] <czr> rausb0, one can use alternative info readers. I use KDE (Alt+F2, info:grub)
[11:27] <stevethepirate> system settings will only let me change to 1024x768 res
[11:28] <rausb0> czr: pinfo is nice
[11:28] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: then you were careless configureing your xserver-xorg.
[11:28] <stevethepirate> probably.
[11:28] <czr> rausb0, never used it. kioslaves wtf :-)
[11:28] <stevethepirate> howto reconfigure?
[11:28] <czr> ftw even
[11:28] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: you didn't enable other resolutions.
[11:28] <rausb0> czr: i dont use kde :)
[11:28] <stevethepirate> yeah.
[11:28] <stevethepirate> probably.
[11:28] <stevethepirate> howto recon?
[11:28] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: the same way, only this time read everything :D
[11:28] <stevethepirate> lol
[11:28] <stevethepirate> whats the command?
[11:28] <rausb0> czr: pinfo is console only, but much better than info
[11:28] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: i'im glad your driver is working now, however.
[11:29] <kane77> stevethepirate, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:29] <stevethepirate> ta
[11:29] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xsraodifnadsfaslf blsdkjfhdsfsad
[11:29] <czr> rausb0, sure. still, I'm perfectly happy with kioslaves.
[11:29] <Nubbie> what kane77 said.
[11:29] <Nubbie> kane77: jerk :D
[11:29] <kane77> Nubbie, :D
[11:29] <user____> how do i rollback to an older version of wine?
[11:29] <user____> i just updated it and it's worse than the older one
[11:29] <Jaso1> Nubbie how do I edit your grub configuration so it points to the right root partition on the right drive to boot. Thank You
[11:29] <Nubbie> user____: you use synaptic.
[11:30] <sinizzl> hello guys
[11:30] <roryy> Jaso1: your menu.lst looks correct for a single disk
[11:30] <sinizzl> i have a pretty stupid question: what do i have to do if i want to update to feisty?
[11:30] <wj32> Nubbie: on feisty's new feature with unknown commands:
[11:30] <Jaso1> roryy it that good
[11:30] <wj32> Nubbie: how is that done? does it create an index of what files are in every single package?
[11:30] <Nubbie> jaso1: i don't know how to fix your problem, i only know what's wrong. please there are many guides that will help you on the internet, you aren't the first person to have that problem.
[11:31] <delcoyote> czr Nubbie i think problem was a badly burnt dvd
[11:31] <roryy> Jaso1: did you perhaps setup your system to use the second disk (for, say /home) ?
[11:31] <derek_> Hi
[11:31] <wj32> Tag.
[11:31] <Nubbie> wj32: i guess that there is a package installed on every feisty install with a list of all commands of all packages of all repositories.
[11:31] <derek_> How to upgrade to Feisty from Edgy?
[11:31] <czr> delcoyote, you got it out?
[11:31] <wj32> Nubbie: nicceee.
[11:31] <sinizzl> derek_: i just asked that question. nobody wants to answer :(
[11:31] <Jaso1> roryy: maybe, could you tell me how to check thank you.
[11:31] <user____> Nubbie  in synaptic all i have checked is wine 9.35
[11:31] <user____> and  i want my old wine
[11:31] <derek_> I replaced edgy by feisty in /etc/apt/sources.list , and did apt-get update. What is the next step?
[11:32] <derek_> sinizzl: hm
[11:32] <Nubbie> wj32: its very smart in my opinion, especially since repositories aren't a new thing, this should have been done a long time ago.
[11:32] <delcoyote> oh yes ;-D doesnt look like chewing gum , but its out, going to try with gnome-baker ;-) Nubbie
[11:32] <czr> derek_, apt-get -u dist-upgrade is more common in those cases, but you should normally reboot after that and cross fingers
[11:32] <sinizzl> i know it's a stupid question.
[11:32] <Nubbie> derek_ STOP RIGHT THERE.
[11:32] <roryy> Jaso1: the file '/etc/fstab' should contain this information.  'cat /etc/fstab' will tell you
[11:32] <Nubbie> derek_: change your sources back to how it was before.
[11:32] <Nubbie> derek_: and use update-manager to upgrade your system.
[11:32] <sinizzl> Nubbie: what's update-manager?
[11:33] <wj32> How to upgrade from Windows Vista to Windows 3.1?
[11:33] <roryy> Jaso1: perhaps you should just reinstall Ubuntu with only 1 hard disk connected; it shouldn't take too long
[11:33] <sinizzl> and why should one not be altering his sources.list ?
[11:33] <wj32> you dont replace edgy with feisty without a good reason
[11:33] <Nubbie> wj32: lol. you put your hard drive in the microwave, and then vista will revert to it's underlying operating system, which is in fact windows 3.1
[11:33] <wj32> only dist-upgrade manager should do that
[11:33] <sinizzl> and if i added other repos by hand?
[11:33] <wj32> lol
[11:33] <sinizzl> like the beryl repo?
[11:34] <derek_> Nubbie: why change the sources back to edgy?
[11:34] <Nubbie> sinizzl: they will be there after.
[11:34] <wj32> sinizzl: no, beryl edgy might actually depend on edgy specific stuff
[11:34] <Nubbie> sinizzl: the beryl one you can change to feisty/edgy/w.e AFTER you upgrade everything else.
[11:34] <Nubbie> derek_: because you will break your system.
[11:34] <Jaso1> roryy: on that page, what should i look for
[11:34] <roryy> Jaso1: which page?
[11:34] <happy> hi can anybody help me to program in C on ubuntu 6.10
[11:34] <wj32> e.g. say beryl depends on libasdf version 100
[11:34] <roryy> Jaso1: do you mean the file /etc/fstab ?
[11:35] <Nubbie> derek_: run sudo update-manager -c -d
[11:35] <derek_> Nubbie: then how otherwise would edgy upgrade to feisty? (wouldn't the update-manager do the same?)
[11:35] <wj32> thats only in feisty
[11:35] <Jaso1> roryy: 'cat /etc/fstab'
[11:35] <wj32> you cant use the feisty beryl then
[11:35] <roryy> Jaso1: look for anything that says '/dev/hdb' or '/dev/hdc' or perhaps '/dev/sda' (or sdb,sdc, etc)
[11:35] <wj32> update-manager does other stuff
[11:35] <Nubbie> derek_: no it wouldn't, because update manager takes into account abandoned packages and does everything properly according to ubuntu servers.
[11:35] <BeepAU> how can I get a 16:10 resolution?
[11:36] <wj32> happy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:36] <stevethepirate> Nubbie: yeah
[11:36] <derek_> I see
[11:36] <stevethepirate> was a silly flag that was down...
[11:36] <stevethepirate> thanks man
[11:36] <Nubbie> beepAU: you select a resolution that has a ratio of 16:10.
[11:36] <wj32> happy: gcc myprogram.c -o myprogram
[11:36] <wj32> happy: ./myprogram
[11:36] <maarten_> back
[11:36] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: glad i could help, since i don't have the slightest clue about nvidia drivers :D
[11:36] <maarten_> composite "true"  seems to be working
[11:36] <stevethepirate> hope the drivers are -actually- installed.. not just pretending to me
[11:36] <Nubbie> stevethepirate: isn't that comforting?
[11:36] <maarten_> and if i type beryl it says all passed
[11:36] <Nubbie> maarten_: excellent!
[11:37] <stevethepirate> nah
[11:37] <maarten_> it stops at reloading options
[11:37] <BeepAU> Nubbie -- none are availabile in the screen resolution preferences
[11:37] <wj32> maarten_: the thing is, is it FAST?
[11:37] <happy> thanks for help
[11:37] <Nubbie> maarten_: see if compositing is working.
[11:37] <stevethepirate> i'm not gonna try beryl till after i finish this assignment
[11:37] <sinizzl> hehhehe
[11:37] <stevethepirate> ;)
[11:37] <wj32> maarten_: you could be using software renderingf
[11:37] <sinizzl> 460 kilobytes per second rule
[11:37] <evan_> hmm i keep having problem w/ network manager not being able to auto connect
[11:37] <Nubbie> beepAU: then you can edit your xorg.conf manually and create one that is 16:10.
[11:37] <Jaso1> roryy:  /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0   /dev/  /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[11:37] <Nubbie> beepAU: btw, what screen has a ratio of 16:10?
[11:37] <evan_> have to manually make it connect
[11:37] <Cleric>    ?
[11:37] <maarten_> if i switch i dont see any 3d, what i do see is just glitches xD
[11:37] <roryy> Jaso1: that one is OK; it's for the CD-ROM
[11:38] <Saxius> hi
[11:38] <Nubbie> wj32: that wouldn't be the end of the world... he just wanted it to work.
[11:38] <maarten_> maybe I should try some different video drivers...
[11:38] <Jaso1> roryy:  # /dev/hda1 UUID=20d379b2-ab6b-4611-acff-fc8db0ecbd15 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0
[11:38] <Nubbie> Cleric: do you speak english?
[11:38] <BeepAU> Nubbie -- laptop
[11:38] <Saxius> Hi
[11:38] <Nubbie> beepAU: thats messed up.
[11:38] <Cleric> 
[11:39] <maarten_> when I tried glxgears with some driver yesterday it worked smooth... glxgears doesn't run smooth with my current driver...
[11:39] <Cleric> little
[11:39] <Tallu> Hiya. What kernel version does the 6.10 installer have by default?
[11:39] <Nubbie> cleric: greek?
[11:39] <maarten_> so that might be the problem
[11:39] <sinizzl> what nvidia-kernel-module version is there by default in feisty's restricted repository?
[11:39] <Saxius> why is the blubuntu fuk the icon on openoffice on 7.4
[11:39] <BeepAU> Nubbie -- whys that?
[11:39] <Jaso1> roryy: thanks for your help
[11:39] <Cleric> ukrainian
[11:39] <maarten_> ok i gotta go now, i'll post some progress here later today
[11:39] <sinizzl> i used to disable the entire repository and install proprietary drivers by hand
[11:39] <Cleric>   -  ?
[11:39] <Nubbie> beepAU: edit your xorg.conf file and create some arbitrary resolution, and make sure it is the first one in the list under 24bit.
[11:39] <Nubbie> cleric: what language?
[11:39] <roryy> Jaso1: /dev/hda entries should be OK.  The line you've quoted starts with a '#' though, which means it's ignored
[11:39] <Jaso1> roryy: there is another set of numbers after this as well
[11:41] <roryy> Jaso1: your menu.lst looks OK, but incomplete; there are usually other parts to that file which Ubuntu uses when upgrading the kernel
[11:41] <kane77> hmm.. why does shipit have no 1PC+164bit...?
[11:41] <amorphous__> anyone know anything about getting usb keyboards going on a live cd? am trying to install onto brand new dell optiplex320. lots of forums have no solutions... :(... have keyboard on option screen, but not when it gets to desktop
[11:41] <Cleric> ukrainian
[11:41] <orbin> Nubbie: ukranian looks like.
[11:41] <Jaso1> roryy: # /dev/hda5 UUID=f5e02f3f-24ab-4d65-b758-aabd33a5fb7c none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:41] <roryy> Jaso1: that's also /dev/hda, shouldn't matter
[11:41] <Nubbie> cleric: :D i just had my ukrainian easter tonight.
[11:41] <jasin> Hi fellow linux geeks :)
[11:42] <roryy> Jaso1: also, that file is uncommented. Oh, and your 'lshw' doesn't show a /dev/hda5 partition, which is odd
[11:42] <Jaso1> royrr: should I try to try to reinstall Ubuntu?
[11:42] <roryy> Jaso1: i think that would be easiest
[11:42] <Cleric>  , ? :)
[11:42] <Nubbie> cleric: #ubuntu-uk might be for ukrainian speaking people
[11:42] <rambo3> Cleric, quit it
[11:42] <Geoffrey2> does ubuntu support ram disks?
[11:43] <Nubbie> orbin: can you type ukrainian?
[11:43] <Cleric>       ...
[11:43] <Jaso1> roryy:  thank you roryy, i will try now and let you know.  Thank you.
[11:43] <Nubbie> Geoffrey2: why do you want a ram disk?
[11:43] <orbin> Nubbie: no.  i just did a whois. :)
[11:43] <Nubbie> orbin: oooohhh durrr.
[11:43] <rambo3> !ru | Cleric
[11:43] <ubotu> Cleric:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:43] <mojojojo_> !trackball
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trackball - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <Nubbie> oh yeah i forgot ukrainian and russian are practically the same language.
[11:43] <orbin> Nubbie: :P
[11:43] <Nubbie> :l
[11:43] <roryy> Geoffrey2: there are lots of /dev/ram? devices; I would guess yes
[11:43] <Pierre1> hi
[11:44] <Cleric> !
[11:44] <Nubbie> geoffrey2: what do you need access to a ramdisk for?
[11:44] <Pierre1> im a little stuck, please tell if any1 got time
[11:44] <mojojojo_> can I configure trackball for laptop?????
[11:44] <jasin> you should only need two partitions, / and swap
[11:44] <Nubbie> !anyone | pierre1
[11:44] <ubotu> pierre1: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:44] <Nubbie> mojojojo_: its in mouse settings i believe.
[11:45] <Nubbie> mojojojo_: ie. dead zones, etc?
[11:45] <rambo3> should be in synaptics
[11:45] <linux__alien> is anyone using Compaq v3228AU laptop?
[11:45] <rambo3> !synaptics
[11:45] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[11:45] <Nubbie> yeah what rambo3 said.
[11:45] <Nubbie> :)
[11:45] <linux__alien> with Ubuntu installed?
[11:45] <Pierre1> well, i got 2 250 gig. and one of them ive partioned into 3 partions, but i cant seem to understand how to install on one of them
[11:45] <Nubbie> !anyone | linux__alien
[11:45] <ubotu> linux__alien: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:45] <amorphous__> anyone have any joy with dell optiplex installation?
[11:45] <orbin> Nubbie: rambo3's smarter than both of us.
[11:45] <rambo3> orbin, no i just had bad expirience with laptop
[11:45] <Nubbie> OMG ASK YOUR QUESTIONS
[11:46] <Nubbie> !anyone > amorphous__
[11:46] <Pierre1> i just did....
[11:46] <linux__alien> rambo3, you using Compaq Laptop?
[11:46] <Nubbie> pierre1: what specifically is your problem?
[11:46] <delcoyote> lol orbin anyone smarter than rambo ;-p no offence rambo3
[11:46] <Pierre1> well, i got 2 250 gig. and one of them ive partioned into 3 partions, but i cant seem to understand how to install on one of them
[11:46] <orbin> rambo3: no, not that.  you knew ukrainians also speak russian.  i had to wikipedia it. :)
[11:46] <jasin> My synaptics touchpad wont even work in ubuntu, all well, I like my wireless laser mouse better anyways :p
[11:46] <rambo3> linux__alien, yes evo
[11:46] <Nubbie> pierre1: do you not know what is required while partitioning a drive for installation?
[11:47] <linux__alien> rambo3, is it good ?
[11:47] <linux__alien> rambo3, i am thinking of buying it today
[11:47] <amorphous__> Nubbie - i already did!
[11:47] <mojojojo_> Nubbie: well, I'm fine with how the cursor works, but the speed of screen scrolling is to fast for me. I can't find such option in Mouse settings
[11:47] <capiira> hi anyone can help me with my kernel compilation prob? i get this:
[11:47] <jasin> rambo, a lot of stuff for laptops will be fixed in 7.04
[11:47] <Pierre1> yea, there partioned, but i cant seem to find on how to install on a specific partion
[11:47] <capiira> ABI has changed!  Refusing to continue; please update the ABINAME accordingly.  Differences:
[11:47] <linux__alien> rambo3, just want to know whether its good enough ?
[11:47] <aa^way> i c hanged info inside environment but terminal command $PATH says old info, any command to update?
[11:47] <Lukian> where are the power-saving (ie. monitor off after x secs) options in KDE?
[11:47] <capiira> --- /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20-2.6.20/debian/abi/2.6.20-15.24/i386/generic    2007-04-14 21:45:42.000000000 +0200
[11:47] <rambo3> linux__alien, when buying laptop see that it has intel  hardware
[11:47] <capiira> +++ /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20-2.6.20/debian/abi/2.6.20-15.25/i386/generic    2007-04-15 04:01:26.000000000 +0200
[11:47] <linux__alien> rambo3, Its got AMD
[11:47] <capiira> ?
[11:47] <Nubbie> Pierre1: the one you want to have your installation must have the mount point of "/" okay?
[11:47] <jasin> Pierrel, ubuntu should do it for you. It selects the partition.
[11:48] <Pierre1> hmm, wierd
[11:48] <amorphous__> am having problems getting keyboard working with liveCD, am on dell optiplex. common problem, but no solutions in searches :(
[11:48] <linux__alien> rambo3, it does not have bluetooth
[11:48] <roryy> aa^way: you mean you changed '/etc/environment' ?
[11:48] <Nubbie> pierre1: and you must (well should) have a swap drive, no mount point required
[11:48] <Geoffrey2> Nubbie, short answer, I have an .img file that should be written to a floppy with dd...but this computer doesn't have a floppy drive...trying to find some way to "burn" it to, well, I guess you could call it a virtual floppy.....
[11:48] <Nubbie> pierre1: and wherever you want all of your personal files should have mount point "/home"
[11:48] <roryy> aa^way: i think you might need to logout and login to see those changes take effect
[11:48] <Pierre1> swap drive? :o what for?
[11:48] <jasin> Pierrel, you only need two partitions minimum,  / and swap, and you create those during the install in gparted
[11:49] <BeepAU> i have a nvidia graphics card, how can i install the driver for it?
[11:49] <Pierre1> yea i know jasin, but i got xp on one and vista on another
[11:49] <Nubbie> Geoffrey2: that is really unnecessary. why not just transfer the file to a computer that does have a floppy?
[11:49] <Nubbie> !nvidia > beepau
[11:49] <linux__alien> rambo3, you having ubuntu installed in compaq v3228 AU ?
[11:49] <Nubbie> pierre1: so you would need 5 partitions then. 2 for windows, 3 for linux.
[11:49] <jasin> Pierre1, shouldn't matter if linux is on the first partitions and grub is set to boot linux and windows.
[11:50] <linux__alien> rambo3, how do you find it . Is Ubuntu running smoothly ?
[11:50] <amorphous__> ok - if no-one can suggest ways to get the liveCD working...
[11:50] <roryy> Geoffrey2: you can mount some disk images using the loopback devices (mount -o loop)
[11:50] <amorphous__> ...where can i get an alternative install cd?
[11:50] <Nubbie> linux__alien: ubuntu runs smooth on any recent hardware. recent being created in this decade.
[11:50] <Pierre1> :nubbie why 3 partions for linux?
[11:51] <Nubbie> !alternative | amorphous__
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <Nubbie> ugh
[11:51] <rambo3> linux__alien, no evo n150 , old 800 Mhz p3  with feisty and e17 as window manager . this is offtopic now
[11:51] <linux__alien> Nubbie, some people told me that Ubuntu does not run properly in Compaq v3228AU thats why i wanted to know coz i am thinking of buying it today.
[11:51] <Nubbie> Pierre1: you need one for the base system (/) one for swap space (like a windows pagefile) and one for your personal data (/home)
[11:51] <Nubbie> linux__alien: then check google.
[11:51] <jasin> You should check the Hardware Compatibility List before buying a laptop to makesure everything is compatible, trust me .. it'll lots of headaches.
[11:51] <Pierre1> sounds a little tough
[11:52] <Pierre1> on my laptop it was rly easy
[11:52] <Nubbie> pierre1: are both of your windows partitions on one drive?
[11:52] <jasin> You should check the Hardware Compatibility List before buying a laptop to make sure everything is compatible, trust me .. it'll lots of headaches.
[11:52] <Pierre1> :nubbie yes
[11:52] <linux__alien> Pierre1, how was it easy
[11:52] <Nubbie> pierre1: so one hard drive has nothing on it.
[11:52] <Pierre1> well one is full of backups etc
[11:52] <Nubbie> pierre1: then automatically partition the 2nd drive with nothing on it.
[11:52] <Nubbie> pierre1: ....
[11:53] <jasin> here's a hardware compatibility list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:53] <aa^way> ehm i get always 101 network is unreachable while i do apt-get
[11:53] <aa^way> whats wrong?
[11:53] <aa^way>  Cannot initiate the connection to ee.archive.ubuntu.com:80
[11:53] <orbin> linux__alien: if it's anything like my compaq, it's possible wifi may be a little fiddly to set up depending on what card it has.  then again, those issues may be resoved in feisty if that's the release you're planning on installing..
[11:53] <aa^way> seems its down but how i change that server?
[11:53] <linux__alien> orbin, currently i ve dapper drake
[11:54] <roryy> aa^way: change 'ee.archive.ubuntu.com' to 'archive.ubuntu.com' in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:54] <Nubbie> pierre1: please read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282018
[11:54] <linux__alien> orbin, if i get it today i would install dapper drake
[11:54] <Pierre1> will do
[11:54] <Nubbie> pierre1: you need 3 partitions.
[11:55] <Nubbie> pierre1: you can use the livecd to parition your drives to make room for linux.
[11:55] <orbin> i'd search the ubuntu forums for the model.  that hopefully would give you an idea of possible common problems.
[11:55] <Pierre1> okay
[11:55] <linux__alien> jasin, i am unable to find v3228AU in that Ubuntu HCL so does that mean that it wouldnt work ?
[11:55] <jasin> aa^way, you can change the servers in  /etc/apt/sources.list ; However, I don't recommend doing it unless you really know what you are doing.
[11:56] <jasin> linux_alien, no, that just means its not supported, in other words, its a hit or miss as to whether it will work.
[11:56] <Nubbie> pierre1: once you have room, in the ubuntu installer, create 3 partitions in the empty space, one for base system (~4-5GB) one for swap (=to your ram) and one for your personal data (everything else)
[11:56] <Nubbie> jasin: do not even mention that.
[11:56] <Nubbie> jasin: it breaks systems.
[11:56] <rahbertlee111> i just ran this command "chmod -R 777 "/dev"/hda3 "/home  and now i cannot log in as user anymore
[11:56] <jasin> Nubbie, hehe
[11:56] <Nubbie> rahbertlee111: because /home is supposed to be 644.
[11:57] <Nubbie> why would you chmod it to 777?
[11:57] <Pierre1> hope i dont screw up my primary computer now :)
[11:57] <wj32> rahbertlee111: your home dir is meant to be 644
[11:57] <rahbertlee111> do i just have to change it back an all will be good?
[11:57] <Nubbie> pierre1: why don't you read an installation walkthrough before starting?
[11:57] <roryy> rahbertlee111: what error do you get when you try to login?
[11:57] <Pierre1> i did actually
[11:57] <Nubbie> wj32: beat you there.
[11:57] <wj32> Nubbie: yes i know
[11:57] <delcoyote> brasero = 0 gnome-baker = 1
[11:57] <rahbertlee111> no xstartupconfig
[11:58] <Lukemob> Hey
[11:58] <Nubbie> :l
[11:58] <Lukemob> I have Ubuntu 6, and I wanna have it on 330Mhz, is it possible?
[11:58] <Pierre1> i installed on my laptop and it works great
[11:58] <wj32> delcoyote: cdrecord = 2
[11:58] <amorphous__> Nubbie - i have heard a few times of an alternative install cd for ubuntu, but cant find one on the site. is there still one available for people with probs with the live cd or not?
[11:58] <Nubbie> lukemob: use xubuntu.
[11:58] <wj32> !alternate | amorphous__
[11:58] <ubotu> amorphous__: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:58] <Nubbie> lukemob: but even then, it may not run well at all.
[11:58] <roryy> rahbertlee111: what flavour and version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:58] <delcoyote> lol wj32
[11:58] <jasin> Nubbie, nonsense, screwing up the source.lst wont crash the kernel, mess up grub, stop x from loading,etc.
[11:58] <Nubbie> lukemob: what do you plan on using the computer for?
[11:58] <Lukemob> Nubbie: server.
[11:58] <rahbertlee111> dapper 6.06
[11:59] <Nubbie> jasin: but you could end up stuck between dapper/edgy or edgy/feisty.
[11:59] <amorphous__> wj32, but i cant find it on the site :( Am i missing the trees for the wood?
[11:59] <Nubbie> which will lead to dependancy HELL.
[11:59] <blue> whats the difference between "sudo -i" and "sudo su -"
[11:59] <wj32> jasin: unless you set up a "black hole" rep and edit your source.list to use that.
[11:59] <Nubbie> amorphous__: its available on the site within the mirrors.
[11:59] <wj32> amorphous__: where are you located?
[11:59] <wj32> amorphous__: and how would you like to download it? http or bittorrent
[12:00] <Nubbie> lukemob: and you need graphical interaction with it?
[12:00] <Lukemob> Nubbie: not.
[12:00] <amorphous__> Nubbie, ok - i'll have another go... wj32 uk, and dont mind
[12:00] <Nubbie> lukemob: okay, so download a server installation cd.
[12:00] <micahcowan> blue, not much, if anything. Both start a shell in "login" mode.
[12:00] <blue> micahcowan: ok :)
[12:00] <wj32> amorphous__: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[12:00] <Nubbie> lukemob: you made it really easy :)
[12:00] <Lukemob> Nubbie: of Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[12:00] <micahcowan> the latter will obviously fork an extra process to accomplish it...
[12:00] <Lukemob> :)
[12:00] <roryy> rahbertlee111: hmm.  you can try booting into rescue mode and changing the permissions back to 755 for /home (don't use -R, though), but I can't see how that would allow login
[12:00] <Nubbie> lukemob: ubuntu-server
[12:00] <Lukemob> Ok.
[12:01] <wj32> amorphous__: "Feel free to view the complete list of download locations and other download options. This list is sorted by continent and country and is updated frequently so that it only includes mirrors that have the most recent files. Note, the list is quite long."
[12:01] <Lukemob> I'm downloading now. Thanks.
[12:01] <micahcowan> or exec, at any rate. Maybe not fork.
[12:01] <aa^way> yeah i got /etc/apt/sources.list and i changed them  "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main" and so on
[12:01] <rahbertlee111> Why 755??
[12:01] <aa^way> so i made restart but it still loads files from ee.archive.ubuntu.com why??
[12:01] <amorphous__> thanks wj32 - i'll give it a go..
[12:01] <Nubbie> rahbertlee111: you MUST have ~./.dmrc chmodded to 644.
[12:01] <klm-> could someone please give me the ip of google.fi, I'm having a dns problem.
[12:02] <Lukemob> Nubbie: My server PC is: 330Mhz, 128MB, 3GB HDD (I'll add bigger).
[12:02] <roryy> aa^way: assuming you updated /etc/apt/sources.list correctly, you need to run 'apt-get update' before anything else (like 'apt-get upgrade' or 'apt-get install ...')
[12:02] <wj32> rahbertlee111: not 755. why would ~/.dmrc be executable?
[12:02] <rahbertlee111> so the whole thing to 644
[12:02] <roryy> rahbertlee111: directories need to be +x for their contents to be listable
[12:02] <micahcowan> rahbertlee111, wj32, the directory itself needs to be executable.
[12:02] <Nubbie> lukemob: thats fine. install with ubuntu-server edition.
[12:02] <roryy> rahbertlee111: no
[12:02] <wj32> 1 = execute; 2 = write; 4 = read;
[12:03] <Nubbie> rahbertlee111: i don't understand why you changed it in the first place?
[12:03] <wj32> micahcowan: yes, if you don't then you can't list the contents of the dir
[12:03] <Lukemob> Ok, thanks Nubbie.
[12:03] <micahcowan> yup
[12:03] <rahbertlee111> i am new and dont understand much
[12:03] <wj32> 7 = 1 + 2 + 4
[12:03] <wj32> 7 = rwx
[12:03] <micahcowan> Or, specifically, you can't "search" through the dir (via paths such as /home/user/foo)
[12:03] <rahbertlee111> it was a mistake
[12:03] <wj32> lol
[12:03] <jasin> Nubbie, but that's the beauty of linux, it creates backups. Just rename the sources.lst_backup file and all is fixed.
[12:03] <wj32> once
[12:04] <Nubbie> jasin: except somebody coming here asking how to upgrade obviously isn't prepared to do that.
[12:04] <wj32> once i accidentally did sudo chmod -Rv 0777 / instead of sudo chmod -Rv 0777 .
[12:04] <aa^way> roryy thanks, works now
[12:04] <delcoyote> klm : http://www.coolwhois.com/d/google.fi
[12:04] <wj32> suddenly heaps of things were stuffed
[12:04] <wj32> luckily i managed to fix them
[12:04] <wj32> lesson: use root with care. especially with typos
[12:04] <Nubbie> wj32: lucky lucky.
[12:04] <rahbertlee111> and how
[12:05] <klm-> delcoyote, thanks, but that won't open up either :(
[12:05] <aa^way> but
[12:05] <Lukemob> Nubbie, what is the difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu?
[12:05] <aa^way> after updating /etc/envrionment what i should run then?
[12:05] <wj32> rahbertlee111: certain daemons and programs gave errors. i just fixed the permissions. back to 644 or 755.
[12:05] <aa^way> i got there other info but when i do $PATH in terminal it shows the old one
[12:05] <delcoyote> klm : IP Addresses: 66.249.93.104 (ug-in-f104.google.com), 216.239.59.104 (gv-in-f104.google.com), 72.14.221.104 (fg-in-f104.google.com)
[12:05] <micahcowan> Lukemob, mainly, different desktop environment. Xubuntu uses a less resource-hungry windowing environment.
[12:05] <Nubbie> lukemob: xubuntu uses xfce as the UI. but since you won't have a UI, it doesn't matter.
[12:05] <wj32> Lukemob: Xubuntu comes with Xfce4. Ubuntu comes with GNOME
[12:06] <roryy> rahbertlee111: you can try to fix this by booting into rescue (or recovery) mode (select that from the bootup menu; press ESC at boot-time if you don't see a menu)
[12:06] <delcoyote> klm thats the latest update i got from that page
[12:06] <klm-> delcoyote: thank you!
[12:06] <Lukemob> Thanks GUYS. ;)
[12:06] <Nubbie> lukemob: have fun.
[12:06] <klm-> yep, works
[12:06] <wj32> No, Thanks GIRLS. ;)
[12:06] <delcoyote> there is more info ill put it in the pastebin gimme a second
[12:06] <jasin> Nubbie, but that's how we learn, by our mistakes.
[12:06] <Lukemob> Nubbie, thanks.
[12:06] <roryy> rahbertlee111: or press Ctrl-Alt-F1 at the login screen to get a text console; try logging in there
[12:06] <roryy> hm
[12:06] <wj32> jasin: if there was a daemon were we could go:
[12:06] <Nubbie> jasin: so why lead somebody into making a mistake, when there is an infinitely safer option that is even easier to do?
[12:06] <Nubbie> jasin: that's cruel.
[12:07] <wj32> mistake_daemon: is this a mistake?
[12:07] <roryy> aa^way: I think you need to logout and login again. Let me try and see...
[12:07] <wj32> wj32: yes.
[12:07] <wj32> mistake_daemon: i won't do it then.
[12:07] <ferronica> how to open multiple .rar part file there are total 47 .rar
[12:07] <jasin> Nubbie, if he screws up his system thats on him, all i did is just simply answer his question.
[12:07] <wj32> thats called asking irc.ubuntu.com#ubuntu before you do anything :)
[12:07] <Nubbie> with the wrong answer.
[12:07] <jasin> wj32, huh?
[12:08] <User2323> hello, does anyone here know how to boot from an hd partition with the contents of a livecd iso?
[12:08] <amorphous__> wj32, thanks. found it (the alt cd) ;)
[12:08] <Lukemob> Nubbie, what of these Linux's would you use for server, if you're on my place? ;)
[12:08] <phobos> ferronica, just extract the first file, the rest gets extracted automatically
[12:08] <wj32> jasin: people should ask us before they do things.
[12:08] <wj32> lol
[12:08] <delcoyote> klm : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15769/
[12:08] <Nubbie> lukemob: i think server only comes in two flavours, i386 and x64 bit.
[12:08] <ferronica> phobos: what the purpose of this multiple .rar files
[12:08] <wj32> should I do sudo apt-get install xchat?
[12:08] <riaal> !ipod
[12:08] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[12:09] <jasin> wj32, and that's what he did.
[12:09] <ferronica> phobos: will you please tell me :(
[12:09] <Nubbie> lukebob: install ubuntu-server-i386
[12:09] <Lukemob> Okey.
[12:09] <roryy> aa^way: yes, it looks like changes made in /etc/environment will only take effect on a real login
[12:09] <Lukemob> tHx
[12:09] <Lukemob> :)
[12:09] <phobos> ferronica, imagine that you want put your archive on floppy disks
[12:09] <aa^way> rorry ok thanks
[12:09] <Nubbie> oohhhh nice, ubotu is finally telling people to ditch ipod firmware.
[12:09] <delcoyote> did you got the info klm?
[12:09] <wj32> Nubbie: "ubuntu-6.10-server-powerpc.iso  	Thu Oct 26 13:44:17 2006  	488.07 MB  	"
[12:09] <wj32> Nubbie: "ubuntu-6.10-server-sparc.iso  	Thu Oct 26 14:29:34 2006  	411.54 MB  	"
[12:10] <Nubbie> oh yeah i forgot about dapper, edgy....
[12:10] <Nubbie> lol..
[12:10] <Nubbie> sorry.
[12:10] <CheesyJedi> I need to know if there is some program or script I could run that would make Beryl close automatically when I open certain programs (for example, openGL games)
[12:10] <ferronica> phobos: but floppy wont allow 700 Mb
[12:10] <wj32> Nubbie: " 	ubuntu-7.04-beta-server-sparc.iso  	Sun Mar 25 21:01:44 2007  	436.23 MB  	"
[12:10] <Nubbie> lukebob: install ubuntu dapper server i386..
[12:10] <Lukemob> "ubuntu-6.10-server-i386.iso" - that's what I'm downloading right now.
[12:10] <Nubbie> wj32: point made, thankyou.
[12:10] <wj32> Nubbie: want more? rofl
[12:10] <wj32> rofl
[12:10] <Nubbie> lukemob: 6.10 is fine too.
[12:10] <phobos> ferronica, thats why you splitt your rar files to e.g. 1.44mb
[12:10] <CheesyJedi> anyone?
[12:11] <wj32> who has 600 floppies?
[12:11] <phobos> ferronica, or 700mb if you wana put a large archive on cds
[12:11] <Nubbie> cheezyjedi: a shell script.
[12:11] <jasin> aa^way, dont go doing anything that might screw up your system, if you is unsure about something ask questions..
[12:11] <Lukemob> Nubbie, okey. Thanks.
[12:11] <Nubbie> cheezejedi: one that kills beryl before starting your game.
[12:11] <phobos> wj32, just an example why you wana split an archive..
[12:11] <CheesyJedi> nubbie: what's a shell script and how do I run it?
[12:11] <micahcowan> CheesyJedi, well, metacity --replace, but that just does it at the time you invoke it, and not "automatically when you start certain programs"
[12:11] <Nubbie> !script
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about script - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <Nubbie> ugh.
[12:12] <rausb0> CheesyJedi: a shell script a just a text file with shell commands in it
[12:12] <micahcowan> CheesyJedi, You'd have to rig aliases or somesuch for something like that: wrapping each program you want it to happen for. It won't be pretty.
[12:12] <CheesyJedi> hmm
[12:12] <jasin> wj32, 600 floppies? what?
[12:12] <CheesyJedi> so there's no easy answer?
[12:12] <wj32> it seems that xgl even abandons 2d acceleration when beryl doesnt work. if i use metacity, everything is around 40 times slower than not using xgl with metacity
[12:12] <Nubbie> cheezejedi: its a text file that you must make executable. there are some other things you need to put in there, but what you're concerned about, you need killall beryl and exec /your/game/here
[12:12] <wj32> jasin: "ferronica, thats why you splitt your rar files to e.g. 1.44m"
[12:13] <Nubbie> cheezyjedi: there is an easy answer, i think you should look up what a shell script is, and add those elements i just mentioned on top of a basic shell script.
[12:13] <CheesyJedi> ok, thanks guys
[12:13] <jasin> wj32, lol
[12:13] <Nubbie> no problem.
[12:13] <CheesyJedi> I'll look into it
[12:13] <CheesyJedi> c you later
[12:13] <tatters> I got a analogue TV card with infra red remote control, on a clean install of feisty if I open up a terminal and press remote control it recognises only the number keys, volume control...........does anyone know how I can setup so all my buttons are recognised, I read about lircd and create a lircrc but I assume Ubuntu is already recognising my Remote and merely have to change something...but what?
[12:13] <wj32> is there a way to start a program independent of your current shell?
[12:13] <Nubbie> tatters: is it a ati remote wonder?
[12:14] <wj32> if i go exec myprogramhere, it closes when i close the shell
[12:14] <phobos> wj32, foo & ?
[12:14] <tatters> Nubbie:  avermedia
[12:14] <wj32> phobos: thats still dependent on my shell. if i close my shell, the job terminates
[12:14] <Nubbie> tatters: you could try keyboard shortcuts or xbindkeys-config
[12:14] <rambo3> tatters, there are tons of howtows for lircd.conf
[12:14] <micahcowan> wj32, do you mean, you're literally typing "exec"?
[12:14] <jasin> Thats like the people who put a folder inside a folder inside a zip, inside a rar, inside a tar
[12:14] <jasin> lol
[12:15] <roryy> wj32: nohup may be what you're after
[12:15] <Nubbie> jasin LOL.
[12:15] <micahcowan> wj32, try "nohup <programnamehere> &"
[12:15] <wj32> micahcowan: if i type "exec yes" and i close myshell, yes is nolonger running
[12:15] <delcoyote> jasin i do that :-D
[12:15] <Killerkiwi> HELP: lspci works in direct hardware mode only... is there some way to "fix" this ?
[12:15] <wj32> micahcowan: great! works.
[12:15] <Nubbie> killerkiwi: what does that mean?
[12:16] <micahcowan> wj32, that's because you've replaced myshell with yes (that's what exec does). When you close the terminal, the terminal's associated process (now yes) will exit.
[12:16] <mistermaniac> you guys know if there is an hardware compatibility list for ubuntu 6.10 / 7.x ? I am thinking about upgrading my system, and I want to know if everything is supported...
[12:16] <Ayabara> is it possible to get a folder view in the sidebar of f-spot?
[12:16] <Killerkiwi> Nubbie, none of the devies work by default but i can see them all using lspci -H 1
[12:16] <Nubbie> mistermaniac: upgrading from what?
[12:16] <aa^way> hey i got some fake Java i think, i did simple GUI progam in java and compiled it now cant run it
[12:16] <wj32> micahcowan: yes. thats the problem. but you've solved it with nohuop
[12:16] <wj32> *nohup
[12:16] <aa^way> Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[12:16] <aa^way> how to remove that java?
[12:16] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[12:16] <wj32> Killerkiwi: are you saying lspci only works in Real Mode?
[12:16] <Nubbie> mistermaniac: ubuntu didn't stop supporting any hard ware between any releases.
[12:16] <mistermaniac> from an socket A, 2200+ to something with an AM2 X2 processor
[12:17] <Jump86> if fiesty going to be stable on the 19th?
[12:17] <anto> !pastebin
[12:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:17] <Jump86> is*
[12:17] <jasin> delcoyote,  trying to shave 20 k or whatever to fit something onto a floppy? lol
[12:17] <wj32> Killerkiwi: sorry, but Linux runs in Protected Mode
[12:17] <jester626> May seem like a dumb question, but what is the technical differences between 6.06 and 6.10?
[12:17] <riaal> morning, I just plugged my ipod the ipod appears on the desktop but amarok says "no dev. found" anyone have any ide?
[12:17] <Killerkiwi> wj32, I guess.. not really sure what Im doing here... the USB mouse dosnt work... ethernet dosnt work etc
[12:17] <Nubbie> riaal: don't use itunes 7.
[12:17] <wj32> jester626: it is a dumb question :) "....but what ARE the technical...."
[12:17] <rambo3> jesper, new gnome
[12:17] <riaal> Nubbie, ??
[12:17] <roryy> aa^way: try asking in ##java, or a channel for GNU java
[12:17] <wj32> Killerkiwi: dunno.
[12:17] <phobos> jester626, read the changelog
[12:17] <Nubbie> apple screwed everybody over with that release.
[12:17] <dutchfish> hi is there some way to cross-compile to native PE win32 exe without the need for mingw, for instance with the help of dpkg-cross?
[12:18] <moDumass> hey all, how are we feeling this evening? patient?
[12:18] <boubbin> what is similar to windows "Control panel" in ubuntu ?
[12:18] <Nubbie> modumass: depends on how long it takes for you to ask your question.
[12:18] <mistermaniac> evening :P is 12:18 here :P
[12:18] <moDumass> nubbie, how do i unmount a physical NTFS hdd?>
[12:18] <Nubbie> boubbin: the top of your screen that says system.
[12:18] <roryy> boubbin: roughly, the stuff under the 'system->' menu
[12:18] <riaal> Nubbie, what do you mean?
[12:18] <wj32> Anyone here know about !anyone and its uses?
[12:18] <Nubbie> modumass: sudo umount /dev/your hard drive
[12:19] <dutchfish> moDumass, man umount
[12:19] <wj32> Can I ask a question?
[12:19] <delcoyote> lol jasin im trying to get dvd's into floppies :-p
[12:19] <jasin> Happy Sunday everyone :)
[12:19] <Nubbie> riaal: i'm saying itunes 7 firmware destroyed all 3rd party support for a bit.
[12:19] <delcoyote> happy sunday jasin X-D
[12:19] <wj32> Sunday Morning - by Maroon 5
[12:19] <jasin> delcoyote, thanks :)
[12:19] <tomy-dsd> hi i am tryin to play a file, it says i need to install windows media player 9?
[12:19] <tomy-dsd> what to do
[12:19] <Nubbie> riaal: use banshee 0.12.1 with new versions of libipoddevice and libipod-sharp to make your ipod work.
[12:20] <mistermaniac> Delcoyote: Still have about 2000 360K floppys for you to try and backup your DVD :)
[12:20] <delcoyote> youre welcome jasin
[12:20] <Nubbie> !fluendo
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fluendo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <Nubbie> :l
[12:20] <delcoyote> lol mistermaniac i need more!~!!!!!!
[12:20] <rausb0> wj32: if you want to run a console command in the background, be able to log out and have it still running, and even to log in later and see its output, use screen
[12:20] <wj32> tomy-dsd: is this on Windows?
[12:20] <jasin> delcoyote, just get a thumb drive, their smaller, faster, and hold more data ;-)
[12:20] <mistermaniac> whehehe
[12:20] <tomy-dsd> no i am on ubuntu
[12:20] <DarkSpirit> Can you convert NTFS to EXT3?
[12:20] <wj32> rausb0: how?
[12:20] <tomy-dsd> i downloaded a file .wmv
[12:20] <jasin> DarkSpirit, yes
[12:20] <Nubbie> tomy-dsd: http://fluendo.org
[12:21] <rausb0> wj32: got a terminal window running?
[12:21] <[Spooky] > Is it hard to get write access to NTFS in Ubuntu?
[12:21] <wj32> !w32codecs | tomy-dsd
[12:21] <ubotu> tomy-dsd: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[12:21] <delcoyote> i hope linux developers get an application to clean wash and tidy house soon :-D
[12:21] <Nubbie> tomy-dsd: i believe the only way to get WMV 9-10 working is with fluendo's codecs.
[12:21] <phobos> heh
[12:21] <DarkSpirit> jasin: How ? Site link please.
[12:21] <moDumass> Nubbie so sudo umount /dev/media/sda1
[12:21] <mjr> [Spooky] , you'll have to install ntfs-3g yourself
[12:21] <wj32> rausb0: i always have one running :)
[12:21] <[Spooky] > mjr: Ok.
[12:21] <Nubbie> modumass: no, sudo umount /dev/sda1
[12:21] <wj32> [Spooky] : ntfs-3g.
[12:21] <rausb0> wj32: okay, now grab my screenrc: wget http://84.179.105.72:29119/screenrc
[12:22] <moDumass> thanks nubbie
[12:22] <tomy-dsd> so i can do sudo apt-get install flueondo
[12:22] <rausb0> wj32: and rename it to .screenrc
[12:22] <Nubbie> modumass: np.
[12:22] <rausb0> wj32: (in your home directory)
[12:22] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[12:22] <wj32> rausb0: done
[12:22] <rausb0> wj32: now start screen by typing screen
[12:22] <[Spooky] > mjr: Thats it?
[12:22] <Nubbie> tomy-dsd: no, the WMV9-10 codecs are available on their website, i believe.
[12:22] <mistermaniac> turn your laptop 180 degrees clockwise :+
[12:22] <aldin> anyone knows which package provides this header 'kconfigskeleton.h'
[12:22] <wj32> rausb0: yep
[12:22] <rausb0> wj32: you should see a blue status bar
[12:23] <wj32> rausb0: Ya
[12:23] <tomy-dsd> whats their webbsite
[12:23] <tomy-dsd> i can not see their webbsite
[12:23] <riaal> Nubbie, you are making me confused! whats all this libipod stuff and why is not amarok a good program?
[12:23] <rausb0> wj32: now run any command, like top for example
[12:23] <Nubbie> tomy-dsd: there is a fee for them however, as they are licensing them from windows.
[12:23] <wj32> rausb0: .
[12:23] <DarkSpirit> I want to Dual Boot Ubuntu with XP. My problem is all my media is in D:\ and I want to keep it in NTFS File System, can I write to it as NTFS in Ubuntu and XP still understand it ?
[12:23] <Nubbie> tomy-dsd: http://google.ca search for fluendo
[12:23] <boubbin> when new version of ubuntu is out, how hard is it tp upgrade your system to use the newest version ?
[12:23] <rausb0> wj32: got it running?
[12:23] <jasin> DarkSpirit, back up all your data first.
[12:23] <Lukemob> Do I need to have swap?
[12:23] <wj32> rausb0: yes
[12:23] <Nubbie> darkspirit: yeah you need to enable ntfs-3g.
[12:24] <rausb0> wj32: now press ctrl-a d   (this will detach the screen session)
[12:24] <Nubbie> back up your stuff for sure.
[12:24] <wj32> rausb0: yes
[12:24] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[12:24] <wj32> rausb0: "[detached] "
[12:24] <ThomasG> Hi, I've a usb modem (huawei e220) running with wvdial. How can I switch it between UMTS and GPRS?
[12:24] <DarkSpirit> Nubbie: So it can be done ?
[12:24] <Nubbie> lukemob: yes, especially with a low end server like that.
[12:24] <phobos> dc, rotate your display 180 degree ;)
[12:24] <Nubbie> darkspirit.
[12:24] <rausb0> wj32: and now type: screen -r   (reattach)  in any terminal
[12:24] <Nubbie> !ntfs | darkspirit
[12:24] <ubotu> darkspirit: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:24] <jasin> DarkSpirit, then boot off the ubuntu cd
[12:24] <mrec_> "not+linux-gnu but it is not installable" any idea why I'm getting this?
[12:24] <wj32> rausb0: coooll!!!! thanks
[12:24] <Lukemob> Nubbie, how much should I set swap?
[12:24] <Nubbie> !ntfs-3g | darkspirit
[12:24] <phobos> wj32, screen -r -d .. just in case its attached
[12:24] <ubotu> darkspirit: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:25] <rausb0> wj32: it doesn't have to be the same terminal as long as its the same user
[12:25] <Nubbie> lukemob: how much memory does your server have?
[12:25] <rausb0> wj32: works very well with ssh logins, too
[12:25] <Lukemob> 128MB RAM, 3,2GB HDD
[12:25] <wj32> what's the advantage of screen to e.g. tabs in gnome-terminal
[12:25] <rausb0> wj32: all screen commands begin with ctrl-a
[12:25] <Nubbie> lukemob: and what are you using the server for? just files locally? or a webserver?
[12:25] <rausb0> wj32: screen is detachable and it runs on text mode, no need for X
[12:25] <Lukemob> Eggdrop, BNC, some web.
[12:26] <wj32> rausb0: how do i switch to a particular "window"?
[12:26] <rausb0> wj32: ctrl-a number
[12:26] <Lukemob> FTP server too. :)
[12:26] <Nubbie> lukemob: i would go with a swap of 512MB, especially since you have so little hard drive space. when you get a new hard drive, consider upping your swap as well.
[12:26] <roryy> also 'C-a n' (n for next)
[12:26] <rausb0> wj32: ctrl-a c creates a new window
[12:26] <roryy> the only thing you need to remember is 'C-a ?' to see help
[12:26] <jasin> DarkSpirit, always back up your data before trying to partition or convert a partition.
[12:26] <wj32> whats close window
[12:27] <Barracuda`zZzz> How I mount a r/w ntfs partition?
[12:27] <phobos> ctrl-a d
[12:27] <roryy> screen is the greatest thing ever.
[12:27] <rausb0> roryy: yeah, or ctrl-a ctrl-a for switching between the last two windows
[12:27] <wj32> phobos: thats detach
[12:27] <rausb0> roryy: mega ack :)
[12:27] <boubbin> when new version of ubuntu is out, how hard is it to upgrade your system to use the newest version ?
[12:27] <phobos> wj32, just exit the program
[12:27] <phobos> or shell
[12:27] <Lukemob> Nubbie: so, 512MB from harddisk?
[12:27] <Nubbie> !ntfs-3g > barracuda`zzzz
[12:27] <roryy> boubbin: fairly easy if you've only used standard ubuntu programs
[12:27] <Nubbie> lukemob: yeah.
[12:27] <wj32> phobos: rausb0 already told me
[12:27] <wj32> phobos: ;)
[12:27] <boubbin> roryy: so it can be done with the apt ?
[12:28] <Nubbie> lukemob: after you get more disk space, i'd up it to 768MB.
[12:28] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[12:28] <phobos> good to know ;)
[12:28] <roryy> boubbin: indeed. Or using the graphical tools (synaptic, update-manager)
[12:28] <rausb0> wj32: i run many things in screen: irssi, mc, w3m, ...
[12:28] <annie> how do i intall ymassenger or gtalk on my laptop?
[12:28] <boubbin> roryy: and what do you mean by standard ubuntu programs ?
[12:28] <[Spooky] > What more is there to do after installing ntfs-3g?
[12:28] <Nubbie> boubbin: you should only upgrade your system with upgrade-manager
[12:28] <wj32> how do you close a window?
[12:28] <roryy> boubbin: stuff you get from archive.ubuntu.com -- i.e., programs provided by Canonical
[12:28] <Barracuda`zZzz> tx Nubbie.
[12:29] <Lukemob> Ok Nubbie. Thanks.
[12:29] <Nubbie> np.
[12:29] <annie> annie
[12:29] <rausb0> wj32: exit the command that is running in it
[12:29] <jasin> boubbin, it will be out sometime this month, around the 28th probably. Use the update manager to upgrade to the new ubuntu, alt+f2 update-manager -d
[12:29] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: i don't need to tell you to back up your stuff, you should know.
[12:29] <wj32> rausb0: oh
[12:29] <rausb0> wj32: like if it is a shell, type exit
[12:29] <roryy> boubbin: some (many?) people install 3rd party software; say, cutting edge 3d window managers
[12:29] <wj32> rausb0: got it
[12:29] <jasin> boubbin, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades
[12:29] <wj32> thanks to everyone who helped me :)
[12:29] <boubbin> nice. thanks
[12:29] <rausb0> wj32: you can also name the windows: ctrl-a A
[12:30] <jasin> boubbin, read everything there on that site and always backup your data before upgrading or updating.
[12:30] <wj32> rausb0:ok
[12:30] <Nubbie> boubbin: use the update-manager method if you don't feel like fixing a broken system.
[12:30] <Barracuda`zZzz> sure
[12:30] <rausb0> wj32: btw, my little qemu jail from yesterday also had screen
[12:30] <boubbin> so kubuntu releases comes out same time with the new ubuntu releases ?
[12:30] <wj32> rausb0: its not working right now
[12:31] <Nubbie> boubbin: yes.
[12:31] <rausb0> wj32: what is not working?
[12:31] <wj32> rausb0: "ssh: connect to host 84.179.95.120 port 10022: No route to host"
[12:31] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[12:31] <rausb0> wj32: oh, that is my dynamic ip
[12:31] <Nubbie> wj32: why port 10022?
[12:31] <rausb0> wj32: and i dont have that qemu thing running permanently
[12:31] <Nubbie> wj32: is the port on the router open?
[12:31] <wj32> rausb0: you? dynamic ip address? they dont fit
[12:32] <rausb0> wj32: yeah, it was mine yesterday
[12:32] <Nubbie> !no-ip
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about no-ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <Nubbie> ummm no-ip is a package..
[12:32] <Nubbie> !noip
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <Nubbie> :o
[12:32] <wj32> rausb0: i thought you would have a static ip address
[12:32] <rausb0> wj32: no i don't
[12:32] <Nubbie> rausb0: use no-ip.
[12:32] <roryy> !info no-ip
[12:32] <ubotu> no-ip: A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB
[12:32] <Nubbie> UGH
[12:33] <wj32> rausb0: why do you not have a web server running?
[12:33] <Nubbie> since when have i had to type info beforehand?
[12:33] <jasin> boubbin, there are instructions on that site I gave you for upgrading to the kubuntu version of ubuntu 7.04.
[12:33] <casual_moron> hi
[12:33] <rausb0> wj32: why should i?
[12:33] <wj32> rausb0: dunno. testing?
[12:33] <roryy> well, one used to have to way back when; don't know why ubotu reverted to that
[12:33] <Nubbie> boubbin: be sure to use the update-manager method.
[12:33] <rausb0> wj32: i don't do web programming
[12:33] <anto_> i got a problem when trying to start my computer i get a error /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[12:33] <jasin> boubbin, wait until it comes out though don't mess around with anything beta.
[12:34] <wj32> rausb0: http://wj32.homeunix.org
[12:34] <tatters> I following a howto  and if I paste ->>>  sudo m-a update,prepare   <---- I get command not found anyone know if I need install anything to run this or if the syntax is incorrect?
[12:34] <mrec_> can anyone explain what not+linux-gnu should be and why libgnomevfs2-0 is masked with that dependency?
[12:34] <roryy> anto_: what version of ubuntu?
[12:34] <Barracuda`zZzz> Nubbie, I'm having problems when I'm trying to apt-get the ntfs-3g. I'm using dapper, non amd64.
[12:34] <boubbin> ok. thanks again
[12:34] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[12:34] <Barracuda`zZzz> *on.... it's amd64.
[12:34] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[12:34] <dc> oops
[12:35] <rausb0> wj32: i do have a homepage though
[12:35] <anto_> well i'm trying to run 20-13
[12:35] <Nubbie> wj-32: check your site's comments
[12:35] <casual_moron> im fairly new to linux, i tryed to start up the newest ubuntu disk (6.10) and i got a error message from x saying no screens found, i tryed to boot into the safe graphics settings and i just got a - flashing at me forever, does anyone have an idea what might be going on?
[12:35] <wj32> rausb0: where? mines wj32.50webs.com
[12:35] <Nubbie> wj32:** comments on site
[12:35] <rausb0> wj32: mine is chris.silmor.de
[12:35] <wj32> rausb0: lol "BLEAAARGH!!! "
[12:35] <anto_> roryy: Ubuntu kernel 2.6-20-13-386
[12:35] <rausb0> wj32: ?
[12:35] <Nubbie> rausb0, wj32: my jinzora! http://tommckay.no-ip.org/music
[12:35] <wj32> ok this is kinda off-topic :)
[12:36] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[12:36] <Nubbie> all the mods are snoozing.
[12:36] <wj32> rausb0: wow. you're 100 times older than me :)
[12:36] <rausb0> wj32: i doubt that :))
[12:36] <jasin> you can check which kernel version you have with uname -r at the terminal
[12:36] <anto_> roryy: Ubuntu kernel 2.6-20-13-386
[12:36] <mistermaniac> casual_moron: X can't detect you video very well it seems, what kind of graphic card do you have?
[12:36] <roryy> anto_: hrm, sorry, no idea.  Perhaps this is another last-minute bug in Feisty
[12:37] <Nubbie> dc: xrandr
[12:37] <rausb0> wj32: maybe 2 times older
[12:37] <wj32> rausb0: yep
[12:37] <casual_moron> mistermanic: nvidia 8800 gtx
[12:37] <anto_> i don't think so because it worked before the computer forced me to do a fsck -y manualy then grub was removed from my boot partion so i copyed a old copy in and i tihnk i might have done somthing wrong
[12:38] <wj32> Nubbie: nice music :)
[12:38] <jasin> 2.6.20-15-generic is the most recent kernel in ubuntu 7.04 beta.
[12:38] <Nubbie> wj32: i <3 jinzora.
[12:38] <Nubbie> so easy.
[12:39] <aa^way> in windows i had ctrl+alt+2 to make @ but here i gotta do alt+2 ? can i fix it because it makes programming little hard
[12:39] <mistermaniac> little question: Didn't follow the news lately: when is beryl+xgl "official" implemented in Ubuntu is is in Feisty or in...
[12:40] <SubMOA> how would I go about making a program run at startup?
[12:40] <moDumass> hey all, just a quick qwestion, how would i enable tv out on my nvidia geforce fx5950ultra?
[12:40] <isola009> my english is very bad, i dont know the way to change the logo of the menu, someone can help me?  thanks
[12:40] <jasin> Restoring GRUB on Ubuntu: http://www.shahidhussain.com/wordpress/index.php?p=33
[12:41] <rausb0> Nubbie: if you want to try: ssh -p 10022 dsl@84.179.105.72   (password: lsd)
[12:42] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[12:42] <benkoo> i got a warming : "This script needs to be executed as root to operate properly."
[12:42] <SubMOA> So any way to make a program run at start u p?
[12:42] <jasin> I always liked lilo better :)
[12:42] <mistermaniac> SubMOA: in gnome?
[12:42] <Lukemob> Nubbie: a question, what is LVM and RAID?
[12:42] <SubMOA> mistermaniac, yes, sir, Edgy
[12:42] <dc> SubMOA: kde or gnome?
[12:43] <SubMOA> dc gnome
[12:43] <benkoo> i did use sudo  and even su to root
[12:43] <mistermaniac> SubMOA : System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[12:43] <Barracuda`zZzz> I'm unable to apt-get ntfs-3g for amd64 dapper... It says Connection refused on http://flomertens.keo.in.
[12:43] <dc> SubMOA: system > preferences>sessions
[12:43] <dc> SubMOA: click on startup
[12:43] <Barracuda`zZzz> I'm unable to apt-get ntfs-3g for amd64 dapper... It says Connection refused on http://flomertens.keo.in. What I can do? hehe
[12:43] <yooluca> what do you guys suggest me to install the beta version now or wait a couple more days and get the final one ?
[12:44] <roryy> !lvm | Lukemob
[12:44] <ubotu> Lukemob: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:44] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[12:44] <SubMOA> thank you very much dc and mistermaniac
[12:44] <mistermaniac> no problem
[12:44] <Shafto> yooluca, Depends if updating from edgy to feisty will be sad like dapper-->edgy
[12:44] <cyberfr0g`> Hi
[12:44] <HYPOCRISY> sup
[12:44] <jasin> dc, why?
[12:44] <dc> SubMOA: no problem
[12:44] <Lukemob> roryy, if I want add that part for swap, what of those to use?
[12:44] <felixhcat> hello
[12:44] <Wazm> sup
[12:44] <Nubbie> lukemob: something you should google.
[12:45] <yooluca> Shafto no, i will do a fresh install
[12:45] <dc> jasin: because i made something for my laptop to be suspended upside down from the keyboard.  i have no space on my desk here at the dorm so....
[12:45] <Nubbie> lukemob: sorry to be like that, but since you're trying to run a server you really should do the research yourself.
[12:45] <Nubbie> dc: xrandr
[12:45] <yellow_chicken> i just did a fresh install of 6.10.  if i upgrade to 7.04 vs upgrading it after 19th, will it be any difference?
[12:45] <jasin> yooluca, wait and get the final release, its only a week or two away from being released.
[12:45] <joonr> hello. I added a command alias to the .bash_config file in my home directory, and that command is not available in my terminal sessions. Am I going about this the wrong way?
[12:45] <SubMOA> dc, so way... that sounds awesome... do yuo hvae any pics?
[12:45] <roryy> Lukemob: I don't use either for swap. RAID doesn't make too much sense, not so sure about LVM
[12:45] <jasin> dc, ok
[12:46] <SubMOA> dc that should be "no way"
[12:46] <Shafto> yellow_chicken, When i did the upgrade from edgy-->beta it went really  wrong
[12:46] <cyberfr0g`> private
[12:46] <HYPOCRISY> ??
[12:46] <felixhcat> ?
[12:46] <yellow_chicken> Shafto: haha, thanks
[12:46] <dc> Nubbie: it throws an error
[12:46] <yooluca> jasin ok , i will wait then . when will be released 19 april is it ?
[12:46] <dc> SubMOA: no no pics lol sorry
[12:46] <Lukemob> Nubbie, I know m8. Now I need just install it, coz I've much work. :(
[12:46] <Shafto> yooluca, Yeah
[12:46] <SubMOA> dc, ohh...
[12:46] <jasin> yooluca, anywhere from the 19th to the 28th.
[12:46] <tatters> If I type "sudo m-a update,prepare" I gt error "command not found"  do I need to install something ?
[12:46] <yellow_chicken> Shafto: will try after 19th
[12:46] <Wazm> I'll think about it
[12:47] <yooluca> jasin ok , thanks
[12:47] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[12:47] <Shafto> You guys read digg, their already talking about the replacement of feisty starting development -_-
[12:47] <jasin> yooluca, welcome
[12:47] <SubMOA> how can you run multiple programs on a BASH shell or the cli
[12:47] <tatters> gutsy gibbon sound awful
[12:47] <roryy> joonr: I don't think bash looks at ~/.bash_config
[12:48] <kritzstapf> SubMOA, screen
[12:48] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[12:48] <E42> hi i got a problem
[12:48] <roryy> joonr: try editing ~/.bashrc or maybe ~/.bash_profile
[12:48] <dc> E42: what is it
[12:48] <E42> i installed steam with wine
[12:48] <Shafto> !ask | E42
[12:48] <ubotu> E42: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:48] <Eerilun> how to install webmin on Ubuntu 0.6.10 with webmin on a usb key? I got one day experience with linux so far ...
[12:48] <rausb0> SubMOA: if the program does not need interactive input, you can run it with & at the end of the line
[12:48] <SubMOA> kritzstapf, sorry, screen?
[12:48] <Shafto> E42, And what.......
[12:48] <dc> E42: ...
[12:48] <kritzstapf> SubMOA, yes, its a "windowmanager" for terminals
[12:49] <E42> and now i want to start the program , its just it wont start there is a problem like /bin/xaxaxa.dll
[12:49] <SubMOA> lets say I have an instant messenger client (wait... can I have a cli messenger...?) and I want to switch and read email
[12:49] <Shafto> dc, Try #ubuntu-effects as a long shot
[12:49] <rausb0> SubMOA: yeah, screen is much better than simple running in background
[12:49] <SubMOA> kritzstapf, oOO, and I use the F keys to switch, right?
[12:49] <dc> Shafto: i have no clue what that is :(
[12:49] <kritzstapf> SubMOA, no, you are talking about ttys
[12:49] <rausb0> SubMOA: not the F keys but ctrl-a NUMBER
[12:49] <alef0> dc: never done it myself. I think you should look up the xorg xrandr extension. xrandr has to be activated in xorg.conf and then look up man xrandr
[12:50] <dc> when i ctrl+alt+backspace i get an error in my greeter application... what gives?
[12:50] <joonr> roryy, thanks very much, editing .bashrc did the trick.
[12:50] <SubMOA> kritzstapf,  rausb0 whats the difference?  I thought F8 was the GUI and the others were the virtual terminals
[12:50] <dc> alef0: xrandr commands throw me errors, dont know why
[12:50] <E42> omg
[12:50] <E42> and another problem
[12:50] <alef0> dc: maybe xrandr isn't configured in xorg.conf?
[12:50] <kritzstapf> SubMOA, yes and whats your question now? i thought you wanted to spawn different programms in ONE terminal
[12:51] <E42> now the dll problem is gone ~~ Steam STARTED !! but i cant see my login and password <lol>
[12:51] <Legu_> Umm, my old laptop (~300 MHz processor, 128MB memory) freezes (or then it just loads VERY long). It freezes at the desktop (nothing loaded yet but backgroung and mouse), mouse doesn't move, and CD doesn't roll. Using live-CD, edgy eft.
[12:51] <E42> there is no font
[12:51] <rausb0> SubMOA: you are talking about linux console switching. screen is different.
[12:51] <E42> or something
[12:51] <Shafto> E42, Did you install the tahoma font?
[12:51] <SubMOA> rausb0, hmm... sounds confusing.  I'll google it
[12:51] <dc> alef0: how do you mean?
[12:51] <rausb0> SubMOA: screen runs on _one_ console and gives you multiple windows in there
[12:51] <E42> Shafto , no ;c where shall i install it ?
[12:51] <Eerilun> Sorry for repeating myself but do someone know how to install webmin on Ubuntu 0.6.10 with webmin on a usb key? I got one day experience with linux so far ... I need help with both mounting the usb and install.
[12:52] <Shafto> E42, Google it then you put it in fonts folder inside your winee folder
[12:52] <SubMOA> kritzstapf, well, maybe... I just want to run multiple programs and be able to interact w/ them... like a music player, instand messenger, email client, web browser, etc.  how would I go about that?
[12:52] <Legu_> Any idea what could help, or is Ubuntu just too heavy for it?
[12:52] <Shafto> E42, If you open your home folder and press ctrl+h you will see your .wine folder its in there
[12:53] <Shafto> Legu_, Why not try the alternate cd?
[12:53] <alef0> dc: documentation of the nvidia driver says: "The driver supports rotation with the extension when 'Option "RandRRotation"' is enabled in the X config file." maybe this is missing?
[12:53] <webwolf_27> anybody else having trouble with feisty together with ndiswrapper?
[12:53] <rausb0> SubMOA: if you mean multiple text apps (not X/gnome/kde apps), screen can do this
[12:53] <kritzstapf> SubMOA, just use the ttys on the F-keys
[12:53] <E42> Shafto , ok i just copied tahoma.ttf into ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts , but it didint help ;( !!
[12:53] <Shafto> E42, Restart steam,
[12:54] <E42> Shafto, dont helps ;/
[12:54] <SubMOA> rausb0, kritzstapf hmm... ok.  So you can have multiple prgrams running under ONE session, using the CtrlA keys to switch, or have different sessions with the F keys?
[12:54] <E42> Shafto, maybe system reboot?
[12:54] <Shafto> E42, Why exactly cant you login?
[12:54] <luna2k> Isn't there a windows fonts package somewhere on the net?
[12:54] <jasin> I finally got wpa working in linux, weeee
[12:54] <E42> Shafto, because i cant see the font for example
[12:54] <Shafto> E42, I just took a wild guess at you couldnt see the text in the buttons lol
[12:54] <E42> Shafto, login :
[12:54] <Shafto> E42, Thats what installing tahoma.ttf solves
[12:55] <rausb0> SubMOA: you can do both. i prefer screen over linux tty switching.
[12:55] <webwolf_27> when I bootup with the old edgy kernel everything works great, when I bootup with a feisty ketnel the system freezes as soon as I load the ndiswrapper
[12:55] <E42> Shafto ;c
[12:55] <dc> alef0: tried it already
[12:55] <idefix> does anyone know where the usbcore module stuff is loaded in edgy?
[12:55] <Nubbie> !info mscorefonts
[12:55] <ubotu> Package mscorefonts does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:55] <E42> Shafto, thanks anyway ;] 
[12:55] <Shafto> E42, http://www.webpagepublicity.com/free-fonts/t/Tahoma.ttf
[12:55] <webwolf_27> sorry that was something for ubuntu+1
[12:55] <rausb0> SubMOA: screen gives you some extra features like detaching the session and reattaching it later
[12:55] <Nubbie> !info mstcorefonts
[12:55] <ubotu> Package mstcorefonts does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:55] <Nubbie> ugh
[12:55] <Nubbie> never mind
[12:55] <Shafto> !info mscorefonts
[12:55] <ubotu> Package mscorefonts does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:56] <Shafto> :(
[12:56] <Nubbie> shafto: i did that.
[12:56] <Seveas> !info msttcorefonts | Shafto, Nubbie
[12:56] <ubotu> shafto, nubbie: msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[12:56] <SubMOA> rausb0, hmm... I'll have to play around with it.  Are these features available in BASH or jsut the cli?
[12:56] <Nubbie> seveas: my hero :)
[12:56] <rausb0> SubMOA: bash has nothing to do with that
[12:56] <Seveas> !find corefonts | Nubbie
[12:56] <ubotu> nubbie: Found: msttcorefonts
[12:56] <rausb0> SubMOA: bash is a shell, not a terminal
[12:56] <SubMOA> rausb0, that's what I thought
[12:56] <E42> Shafto , i told you it dont helps - dont know why !
[12:56] <Seveas> the !find is useful :)
[12:56] <sinizzl> hello
[12:56] <Nubbie> seveas: oooh did not know about that little tidbit,
[12:56] <Shafto> E42, Well thats the usual work around, ask in #winehq
[12:56] <SubMOA> rausb0, rgr.  They kind of do the same thing, though, right... the shell is like a gateway to the terminal
[12:56] <Nubbie> but now i won't require you to search for me :O
[12:57] <kritzstapf> SubMOA, youve got the different tty-terminals on the f-keys and can spawn virtual terminal-sessions in ONE of those ttys using screen
[12:57] <rausb0> SubMOA: if you have a minute, i can interactively show you some screen features
[12:57] <sinizzl> after i upgraded to feisty i got this error (and it doesn't go away)
[12:57] <SubMOA> rausb0, ?
[12:57] <sinizzl> http://rafb.net/p/hjhfT765.html
[12:57] <rausb0> SubMOA: just a moment
[12:57] <SubMOA> kritzstapf, hmm... I think I'm getting it
[12:57] <E42> Shafto, ok
[12:57] <Nubbie> sinizzl: thats not cool.
[12:58] <sinizzl> it sure isn't
[12:58] <Nubbie> seveas: do know what causes that?
[12:58] <sinizzl> how  can i *force* apt to remove a package
[12:58] <alef0> dc: I got curious and tried it on my machine (nvidia 7900). worked right away. what video card do you have?
[12:58] <sinizzl> Nubbie: i upgraded using update-manager as YOU (yes, YOU are to blame!! kekeke, just kidding)
[12:58] <Nubbie> sudo apt-get remove -f package i think.
[12:58] <dc> alef0: ati mobility 200m :(
[12:58] <sinizzl> then it crashed during upgrade
[12:58] <Nubbie> sinizzl: what package is it?
[12:58] <sinizzl> gdebi
[12:58] <Nubbie> sinizzl: were you running other programs while upgrading?
[12:58] <tatters> running "sudo m-a update,prepare" gives me command not found error, do I need to install something to get this run?
[12:59] <Seveas> sinizzl, try apt-get install gdebi
[12:59] <Nubbie> avec le sudo
[12:59] <Nubbie> ;)
[12:59] <SubMOA> this may be off topic, but is it ironic to anyone else the "Help" files for the internet manager are all online?
[12:59] <Seveas> of course
[12:59] <sinizzl> apt-get remove -f gdebi returns the same error
[12:59] <Nubbie> SubMOA: that is comical.
[12:59] <dc> when i ctrl+alt+backspace i get an error in my greeter application... what gives?
[12:59] <Seveas> sinizzl, you need to install it :)
[12:59] <sinizzl> moi j'utilise pas sudo... j'ai define un mot de pass pour root
[12:59] <SubMOA> nubbie as in "not ironic, but comical" or as in "yea, and comical"
[01:00] <jasin> Don't understand the point of a swap if your system never uses it.
[01:00] <sinizzl> http://rafb.net/p/jYGAth35.html
[01:00] <Nubbie> sinizzl: je suis est un Anglophone ou est qui pretendre tu parle fraincaise, excuse moi :D
[01:00] <dc> when i ctrl+alt+backspace i get an error in my greeter application... what gives?
[01:00] <Seveas> sinizzl, sudo apt-get install gdebi gdebi-core
[01:00] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[01:00] <webwolf_27> jasin, If you required more memory your system would. Fact is RAM is much faster, so RAM is used first
[01:00] <sinizzl> Nubbie: sounds like google translate
[01:01] <Seveas> Nubbie, sinizzl: please stick to english in here
[01:01] <alef0> dc: I have no clue about ati cards... but if you post your xorg.conf, logfiles and error outputs, I'd take a look at it.
[01:01] <Seveas> sinizzl, indeed ;)
[01:01] <frojnd> where has samba log?
[01:01] <Nubbie> sinizzl: sounds like a shitty school system in the province of ontario.
[01:01] <frojnd> what's the path of samba's log?
[01:01] <Seveas> frojnd, /var/log/samba/
[01:01] <Nubbie> seveas: :l sorry guy.
[01:01] <sinizzl> http://rafb.net/p/dUrwFt83.html
[01:01] <SubMOA> rausb0, still on stand by...
[01:01] <dc> alef0: i dont know where the logs are located, but i have my error message on ubuntuforums and i can post my xorg.conf
[01:02] <rausb0> SubMOA: okay: ssh -p 10022 dsl@84.179.105.72   (password: lsd)
[01:02] <sinizzl> Nubbie: what does sound like that?
[01:02] <jasin> webwolf, of course, but i'd have to really tax the system hard to be using swap.
[01:02] <sinizzl> thx god i'm from switzerland.... lol :D
[01:02] <SubMOA> rausb0, sorry to be so paranoid, but, umm.. whats that do?
[01:02] <slvmchn> how do i tell gnome to render 16-bit desktop
[01:02] <rausb0> SubMOA: you log in via ssh to a small box i have set up
[01:02] <sinizzl> slvmchn: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf :(
[01:02] <Nubbie> sinizzl: what i would do is use synaptic to completely remove the package, and then reinstall it as well as ubuntu-desktop
[01:02] <rausb0> SubMOA: actually it is a virtual machine
[01:02] <Seveas> slvmchn, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to set DefaultDepth to 16
[01:02] <SubMOA> and I see what you see?
[01:03] <webwolf_27> jasin, memoryleaks, when doing my own programming come to mind
[01:03] <dc> when i ctrl+alt+backspace i get an error in my greeter application... what gives?
[01:03] <rausb0> SubMOA: basically yes
[01:03] <dc> i need to rotate the video on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help me?
[01:03] <Nubbie> dc: xrandr
[01:03] <jasin> webwolf, not on this lapy it dont.
[01:03] <SubMOA> well... I'm a little nervous... but ok, I suppose if you hijack my box I can reinstall ;O)
[01:03] <dc> Nubbie: i told ya before, throws an error
[01:03] <alef0> dc: ok, lets start there. do you have a link to your postings?
[01:03] <Nubbie> dc: well maybe if you post the error somebody can help you solve it.
[01:04] <E42> Shafto, ok i've got it !! i got the newest wine 0.9.35 in that ver + ubuntu fonts are broken !! so i have to downgrade to 0.9.34 or wait for 36 ;)
[01:04] <rausb0> SubMOA: no, i cant do that
[01:04] <sinizzl> E: gdebi: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[01:04] <sinizzl> :(
[01:04] <dc> alef0: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2454063
[01:04] <jasin> dc, no one knows.
[01:04] <tatters>  running "sudo m-a update,prepare" gives me command not found error, do I need to install something to get this run?
[01:04] <dc> jasin: which dont they know
[01:04] <sinizzl> i can't uninstall ubuntu-desktop cause it gives me the same f**** error
[01:04] <jasin> dc, no one has an answer for you.
[01:04] <rausb0> SubMOA: it would be possible if remote port forwarding is used when logging in, but since you dont do that, i cannot connect by to your machine
[01:04] <robbie_> where is the directory for webmin themes?
[01:04] <SubMOA> "authenticity can't be established, blah blah blah... continue?" I assume yes
[01:05] <rausb0> SubMOA: yeah, yes
[01:05] <webwolf_27> jasin, no that is my experience, I started writing a small app to organize my multimedia, on 512MB RAM and 2 GB swap I suddenly discoved everything was full, helped alot in debugging
[01:05] <dc> jasin: sorry someone is helping me il get back to you
[01:05] <SubMOA> it was permanently added to something... otherwise I guess I'm good
[01:05] <sinizzl> how can i *force* apt to remove a broken package?
[01:05] <Spee_Der> Good morning all. Finally awake again.....
[01:06] <jasin> dc, then why you keep asking the same thing over and over?
[01:06] <SubMOA> rausb0, so i'm just watchting, right?
[01:06] <rausb0> SubMOA: yes, that was just the host key of my ssh server
[01:06] <dc> jasin: they just started helping me
[01:06] <rausb0> SubMOA: you can type something
[01:06] <SubMOA> ok
[01:06] <alef0> dc: why sudo? the -x and -y options don't work for me. try "xrandr -o inverted" or "xrandr -o normal"
[01:06] <Spee_Der> jasin, you might want to try using synaptic, it does really well with that fixing things.
[01:06] <dc> alef0: sudo because i wanted to make sure that wasnt the problem, im a noob when it comes to loonix
[01:06] <SubMOA> rausb0, is this a shell or a terminal?
[01:06] <rausb0> SubMOA: i see you typing too. it is a shared screen session.
[01:06] <idefix> sinizzl: look for  --force-things in man dpkg. My advice dont do that there usually is a better way
[01:07] <SubMOA> rausb0, that's wicked... i envy you
[01:07] <crado> hello
[01:07] <jasin> webwolf, organizing multimedia taxed your system so hard that it filled up 2 gigs of swap? you either have a crap system or you screwed something up in your programing.
[01:07] <dc> alef0: dc@dc-laptop:~$ xrandr -o inverted
[01:07] <dc> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) Major opcode of failed request:  154 (RANDR) Minor opcode of failed request:  2 (RRSetScreenConfig) Serial number of failed request:  12 Current serial number in output stream:  12
[01:07] <speedie> I'm trying to use libusb, but it won't let me detach kernel drivers... (Operation not permitted)
[01:07] <Spee_Der> hello credo
[01:07] <speedie> any ideas?
[01:07] <crado> can anyone help me with installing a second ethernet card on my ubuntu edgy ?
[01:07] <dc> crado: whats the problem
[01:08] <jasin> Spee, yes :)
[01:08] <alef0> dc: ok, post your xorg.conf. did you restart xorg after you inserted the xrandr option?
[01:08] <crado> i put the card in and edited the /etc/interfaces file but it does not get an iP ADDRESS
[01:08] <jasin> Spee_Der,  yes :)
[01:08] <crado> even though i have set it to dhcp
[01:08] <boubbin> is there aplication for "3d studio max" on linux ?
[01:09] <dc> alef0: i have reset it and its posted on that link
[01:09] <Spee_Der> jasin, I've had good luck with synaptic when I can't handle apt sometimes.
[01:09] <dc> crado: what build do you use
[01:09] <dc> crado: and what interface
[01:09] <rausb0> SubMOA: hehe, its strange to chat in a terminal :))
[01:09] <dc> rausb0: lol i feel the same way
[01:09] <SubMOA> rausb0, haha, very slow, too
[01:09] <crado> how do i find out the build
[01:10] <SubMOA> rausb0, so that is a shell, right?
[01:10] <jasin> Spee_Der, i'll keep that in mind, thank :)
[01:10] <rausb0> SubMOA: it is a shell running in a screen session
[01:10] <jasin> thanks*
[01:10] <SubMOA> rausb0, oOo, ok.
[01:10] <Spee_Der> yep
[01:10] <rausb0> SubMOA: i will now create a second window
[01:10] <SubMOA> ok
[01:10] <BeepAU> whats the command to rename a file?
[01:10] <boubbin> mv file newname
[01:10] <rausb0> SubMOA: you can change window by typing ctrl-a n
[01:10] <boubbin> it also moves files if you specify the path
[01:11] <kritzstapf> SubMOA, rausb0: what are you doing? ;D
[01:11] <Spee_Der> I read and read the apt-how-to, but I keep having a brain fart and go back to synaptic to fix things..... lol
[01:11] <SubMOA> rausb0, ok.
[01:11] <rausb0> kritzstapf: i am showing him screen on my ssh box :)
[01:11] <robbie_> Spee_Der, it'll click eventually ;)(
[01:11] <crado> dc / how do i get the build ?
[01:11] <BeepAU> boubbin thanks
[01:11] <Spee_Der> Ok.
[01:11] <kritzstapf> rausb0, id like to see it too :D
[01:11] <SubMOA> rausb0, AAAHH what is that?
[01:11] <Nubbie> rausb0: i could use a tutorial :)
[01:11] <dc> crado: is it gnome or kde?  is it edgy eft, dapper drake, fiesty fawn.. you know?
[01:11] <Spee_Der> Just so bloody much to remember and too few brain cells here......
[01:11] <Nubbie> rausb0: i forget how to tunnel vnc over ssh.
[01:12] <rausb0> SubMOA: yes is not a good command in remote logins :)
[01:12] <SubMOA> ut oh.  sorry
[01:12] <kishan> #ubuntu-ca
[01:12] <Legu_> When the feisty arrives, is it possible and easy to update from edgy -> feisty? Without installing the whole system again?
[01:12] <Nubbie> #ubuntu-ca = catalan?
[01:12] <rausb0> SubMOA: now i started mc in the second window
[01:12] <SubMOA> I have a primitive GUI on screen now, rausb0
[01:12] <Nubbie> legu_: yes sudo update-manager -c -d
[01:13] <rausb0> SubMOA: has nothing to do with screen, this is mc
[01:13] <SubMOA> rausb0, ok
[01:13] <rausb0> SubMOA: mc is midnight commander, a norton commander clone
[01:13] <Nubbie> legu_: and the beta for feisty is available to upgrade to if you felt so inclined.
[01:13] <rausb0> SubMOA: (if you still remember msdos)
[01:13] <Nubbie> msdos was lame.
[01:13] <SubMOA> rausb0, oook... one sec let me google, and I sort of remember dos, however I was about 7 when it was phased out
[01:13] <Lukemob> http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch03s04.html
[01:13] <Lukemob> Server = 4GB? :S
[01:13] <BeepAU> I followed this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia - and believe I did everything right, but when i run nvidia-xconfig as root, I restart my computer to a blank screen. what am i doing wrong?
[01:14] <yellow_chicken> Shafto: did you follow this guide line? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn.html
[01:14] <Nubbie> all i wanted to do was play my loom game, but dos was always difficult, because i was like 5 years old trying to type in the exe correctly.
[01:14] <rausb0> Nubbie: it was, but mc still is a nice tool
[01:14] <Shafto> yellow_chicken, Yeah
[01:14] <jasin> The final release will be out very shortly
[01:14] <luna2k> BeepAU, what is the error you get?
[01:14] <SubMOA> rausb0, ok, so basically a GUI for the cli, right?
[01:14] <rausb0> SubMOA: a gui in a terminal
[01:15] <BeepAU> luna2k - i don't get one, just a blank screen
[01:15] <rausb0> SubMOA: you still confuse shell and terminal
[01:15] <SubMOA> rausb0, ok.  makes sense
[01:15] <jasin> Best to just wait on that rather then to download a bugy beta you'll probably only be using for a week, maybe less.
[01:15] <SubMOA> rausb0, yes... well, i think i get shell and terminal, but what does cli apply to?
[01:15] <rausb0> SubMOA: cli is short for command line interpreter, also known as shell in the unix world
[01:15] <Nubbie> rausb0: you know what i've been having trouble with? viewing my linux screen from a windows computer.
[01:16] <luna2k> BeepAU, that never happened to me. :/
[01:16] <alef0> dc: sorry, xorg.conf looks fine to me. the same thing works for me, using the nvidia driver. I think I can't help.
[01:16] <SubMOA> ohh, ok.  and "screen" implies.... rausb0
[01:16] <rausb0> Nubbie: what do you mean by "screen"?
[01:16] <Nubbie> rausb0: vnc <--
[01:16] <rausb0> Nubbie: google for x11vnc
[01:16] <yellow_chicken> jasin: yes, i will need to upgrade to final release
[01:17] <crado> can someone please point me to the right channel for LAMP server issues on edgy  ?
[01:17] <rausb0> Nubbie: but vnc is slooow
[01:17] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> is there an exact release date for Feisty?
[01:17] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> (non-beta)
[01:17] <Nubbie> rausb0: i realize.
[01:17] <kritzstapf> {uX}l`VampyrCeil, 4/19
[01:17] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> thx
[01:17] <jasin> yellow_chicken,  just wait until its out dont mess with beta, unless you are into beta testing, finding bugs and that kind of stuff.
[01:17] <rausb0> SubMOA: now i'll rename the second window   (ctrl-a A)
[01:17] <dj-fu> crado: lamp could be anyone of 3 issues
[01:17] <SubMOA> ok
[01:17] <dj-fu> the individiual channels would help, I'd say;
[01:18] <crado> i am struglling to configure a new network card and need help any pointers ?
[01:18] <boubbin> is there a list of supported soundcards for ubuntu ?
[01:18] <yellow_chicken> jasin: i been waiting for months. in fact since 6.10.  6.10 does work nicely on this lappy
[01:18] <jasin> crado, wifi or wired?
[01:18] <crado> wired
[01:19] <crado> i have edited the /etc/network.interfaces file
[01:19] <jasin> yellow_chicken,  6.10 is very bugy on my laptop
[01:19] <crado> added iface eth1 inet dhcp
[01:19] <crado> auto eth1
[01:19] <yellow_chicken> jasin: you think i will need to download a new iso and burn a cdr?  cdrs are not good for the environment, hard for baterias to break it down
[01:19] <crado> but it is not getting an IP address
[01:20] <rausb0> SubMOA: now switch to the first window again  (ctrl-a n)
[01:20] <rausb0> SubMOA: okay, now some console web browsing :)
[01:20] <yellow_chicken> jasin: i just installed 6.10 as a fresh install.
[01:21] <SubMOA> rausb0, yes!
[01:21] <jasin> yellow_chicken,  when its available just do an alt+f2 and type update-manager -d
[01:21] <zaphands> Help. My keyboard shortcuts are saved but do not work after I restart unless I reset everyone of them.
[01:21] <jasin> yellow_chicken,  thats the best way to upgrade
[01:21] <SubMOA> rausb0, is that lynx?
[01:21] <rausb0> SubMOA: no, w3m
[01:21] <boubbin> im planning to install kubuntu over suse and use same partitions for swap and /home, do you think its going to mess something in my /home ?
[01:21] <rausb0> SubMOA: i like w3m better
[01:21] <SubMOA> rausb0, ok, does the same basic thing, though, right?
[01:21] <yellow_chicken> jasin: ok.
[01:21] <Nubbie> boubin: yes.
[01:22] <SubMOA> rausb0, how's myspace on that puppy?  jk
[01:22] <Nubbie> boubbin: suse's config files are different from ubuntu's config files.
[01:22] <rausb0> SubMOA: yes, but lynx cannot display tables and frames, w3m can
[01:22] <boubbin> i still should make separate partitions for /home
[01:22] <SubMOA> rausb0, oOo
[01:22] <_Neil> boubbin: wouldnt risk that if I were you.. shrink the home partition down, and copy your personal files over to a new one
[01:22] <jasin> yellow_chicken, it will take some time so you better plug into a wired connection or find a coffee shop with free wifi.
[01:22] <rausb0> SubMOA: just try myspace. type U and put in the url
[01:22] <boubbin> i have plenty of space almost 1TB, so thats not a problem of space :P
[01:22] <Nubbie> what _neil said makes the most sense to me.
[01:23] <zaphands> boubbin: I just installed ubuntu from the alternative CD keeping my old home.
[01:23] <Nubbie> boubbin: you should sell space.
[01:23] <jasin> yellow_chicken, it will take some time so you better plug into a wired lan type connection or find a coffee shop with free wifi.
[01:23] <kritzstapf> do you recommend updating or reinstalling when switching to feisty?
[01:23] <jasin> rather
[01:23] <boubbin> :P
[01:23] <Nubbie> boubbin: could pay for your new super fast high speed internet service.
[01:23] <boubbin> yeah 512 upload is very fast
[01:23] <zaphands> boubbin: children in Africa are starving for bytes.
[01:24] <rausb0> SubMOA: capital U
[01:24] <SubMOA> rausb0, opps, i closed xchat, what was the last hing you said?
[01:24] <boubbin> i could send souple of bytes to africa though.
[01:24] <boubbin> couple*
[01:24] <rausb0> SubMOA: just try myspace. type U and put in the url
[01:24] <yellow_chicken> jasin: yeah, probably will do it at school, via lan/rj45
[01:24] <SubMOA> rausb0, ok
[01:24] <annie> hghhghg
[01:25] <Owner> what day is Feisty going to be released this month?
[01:25] <rausb0> SubMOA: muhaha, its german, because my ip is in germany
[01:25] <SubMOA> why is it in german?
[01:25] <SubMOA> rausb0, ooo
[01:25] <yellow_chicken> 19th
[01:25] <Negona> algum quer falar comigo?
[01:25] <rausb0> SubMOA: the myspace webserver seems to check that
[01:25] <SubMOA> rausb0, I'm in japan... i get the same thing
[01:25] <jasin> 1TB is not a lot if you are running a web server. Guys like go daddy have racks of TB space.
[01:25] <Nisch0> Hi na
[01:25] <rausb0> SubMOA: no, you run w3m here on my machine
[01:25] <yellow_chicken> SubMOA: you speak japanese?
[01:25] <Owner> cool, so then I should to and update-manager -d after the 19th?
[01:26] <jasin> 1TB is not a lot if you are running a web server for multiple clients. Guys like go daddy have racks of TB space.
[01:26] <SubMOA> rausb0, sorry, I meant when I'm runnnig off of my computer, it's all in japanese
[01:26] <rausb0> SubMOA: you are in japan, but the w3m program runs here
[01:26] <SubMOA> yellow_chicken, not really, I know a bit, though
[01:26] <jasin> yellow_chicken,  yes, that's best :)
[01:26] <SubMOA> rausb0, ok, i get that
[01:26] <rausb0> SubMOA: i see. btw, w3m was developed in japan.
[01:26] <SubMOA> rausb0, FINALLY something I get, may I add. :O)
[01:26] <yellow_chicken> SubMOA: how to say, i am really really super duper ultra sorry in japanese?
[01:27] <SubMOA> yellow_chicken, not sure about that... Gomenna-sai (sp?) is "I'm sorry"
[01:27] <SubMOA> that might be off topic, though...
[01:27] <jessid> hello...i have installed ubuntu 7.04 in a laptop, but at the startup time, it doesnot load the OS. How can I specify to start with the noapic option???
[01:27] <SubMOA> ;O)
[01:27] <yellow_chicken> SubMOA: i know that one, it's not woking
[01:27] <SubMOA> yellow_chicken, ohh, sorry dude :O(
[01:28] <jasin> I don't know jap myself.
[01:28] <yellow_chicken> =|
[01:28] <rausb0> SubMOA: now for some really cool feature of screen: close the terminal window and log in again via ssh
[01:28] <SubMOA> rausb0, ok
[01:28] <rausb0> SubMOA: cool, eh?
[01:28] <jasin> I only know 2.5 languages and jap is not one of them.
[01:29] <rausb0> SubMOA: the session is reattached
[01:29] <SubMOA> rausb0, yea... i was about to ask about that... that's awesome!
[01:29] <Barracuda`zZzz> can anyone help me? I'm trying to install squashfs-tools, but when I apt-get it, it says "coudnt find package".
[01:29] <jessid> ~noapic
[01:29] <yellow_chicken> SubMOA: type sreen -r to reattach
[01:29] <rausb0> SubMOA: thats because i put screen -r in the dsl user's .bashrc
[01:30] <SubMOA> rausb0, oOo.  So how do I get out of w3m (?) so i can use commands again
[01:30] <jasin> jessid, the no apic is a bug
[01:30] <rausb0> SubMOA: q
[01:30] <Owner> is Feisty supposed to run faster then edgy? The thing is, I want to keep up2date and all but I don't want a slower system....
[01:30] <jessid> jasin: what do you mean?
[01:30] <jasin> jessid, the apic error on startup is a bug, rather.
[01:30] <Barracuda`zZzz> can anyone help me? I'm trying to install squashfs-tools, but when I apt-get it, it says "coudnt find package".
[01:30] <jasin> jessid, is what i meant
[01:31] <jrib> !info squashfs-tools | Barracuda`zZzz
[01:31] <ubotu> barracuda`zzzz: squashfs-tools: Tool to create and append to squashfs filesystems. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.0-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 85 kB, installed size 268 kB
[01:31] <jessid> jasin: so what do I have to do? I am trying to run ubuntu in a laptop, but...nothing...
[01:31] <jrib> Barracuda`zZzz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list , it seems you are missing the main repository
[01:31] <meal3837> do custom kernels confuse the update manager?
[01:32] <Owner> is Feisty supposed to run faster then edgy? won't the compiz stuff slow it down?
[01:32] <jasin> jessid, you have ubuntu installed?
[01:32] <mikeconcepts> what web site lists the updates for Feisty and what there are for?
[01:32] <jrib> Owner: you don't need to use compiz on feisty
[01:32] <Lukemob> Grub loading ... please wait, Error 18
[01:32] <Lukemob> What does it mean?
[01:32] <meal3837> Owner: actually, the desktop effects work very fast, even on older hardware
[01:32] <mikeconcepts> I want something that specifically explains the kernel updates, www.kernel.org doesn't seem to help
[01:32] <jessid> jasin: yes, but it does not loads..it begins, but after a while it does nothing
[01:33] <jasin> jessid, you runing eddgy?
[01:33] <Owner> I heard it's optional, I had a play with beryl and it was ok, but I'm wondering if the default Feisty is going to run Faster then the default edgy (what i have atm)
[01:33] <meal3837> Owner: IMHO, yes
[01:33] <jessid> jasin: i also tried with that one, but it was worst
[01:34] <jrib> Owner: I don't see why it would run slower, create a small partition and try it.  That would be my suggestion
[01:34] <meal3837> Owner: with or with out the cube thingy
[01:34] <jasin> jessid, eddgy is the latest not fiesty.
[01:34] <meal3837> Owner: it really doesn't hit that hard
[01:34] <fulld> Hello. I have a raid array that I can Build, but not Assemble. Is there a way to add a superblock so I can assemble it?
[01:34] <meal3837> Owner: I ran it fine on an 8 y/o comp
[01:34] <ompaul> 5 more days and the web site will say that fiesty is stable
[01:34] <Owner> without the desktop fx, the thing is, I've set up Ubuntu for my dad, and he likes everything fast and efficient
[01:34] <ompaul>  /latest
[01:35] <boubbin> there is no support for opera web-browser in 7.04 yet ?
[01:35] <ompaul> Owner, its faster than windows so whats the issue
[01:35] <jasin> jessid, format and try reinstalling edgy
[01:35] <E42> how to modifity the main xfce panel , for example , accesory , multimedia , graphics etc?
[01:35] <jessid> jasin: edggy is 6.10, isnt it?
[01:35] <Shafto> Owner, tbh I preffered beryl over the built in compiz anyway, but if your worried just dont turn on the effects
[01:35] <jasin> edgy 6.10
[01:35] <ompaul> E42, ask in #xubuntu
[01:35] <jessid> jasin: and festy is 7.04 no?
[01:35] <meal3837> Owner: either way you go, the effects don't slow things down much at all . . .
[01:36] <jasin> jessid, yes but feisty is beta
[01:36] <Owner> i have a p4,3ghz,1G ram and edgy runs fine, but it actually runs a bit slower then dapper :S
[01:36] <Shafto> ompaul, Hehe, so true :)
[01:36] <Lukemob> Grub loading ... please wait, Error 18 -- Please help-
[01:36] <Owner> meal, yeah noticed beryl didn't slow down my system much
[01:36] <jasin> if you want speed get xubuntu
[01:36] <jasin> !xubuntu
[01:36] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[01:36] <Shafto> xfce=very fast :)
[01:36] <jessid> jasin: ok...so if i have problems again, is it possible to specify the noapic option???
[01:36] <BetaIV> !PsyNet
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psynet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <jasin> shafto, yes :)
[01:37] <jessid> !noapic
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noapic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <meal3837> Owner: I was worried about that too, but with the built-in aiglx support in the new xorg, even old crappy hardware can handle it
[01:37] <big_bang14> i have a wacom 12x12 and ubuntu isnt mapping it properly to the screen, how can i sort this out?
[01:37] <Adyeths> so... the other day my scanner suddenly stopped working in Ubuntu (edgy)... its detected by sane-find-scanner but not detected by scanimage -L now. anyone know why this might have happened and how to fix it?
[01:38] <Owner> so, on xubuntu can I run application that are ment for Gnome?
[01:38] <Shafto> Owner, Ermm yeah i spose
[01:38] <ompaul> !bootoptions > jessid (jessid read the message from the bot please_
[01:38] <jasin> shafto, never tried it on this lapy, don't know why i'd want to with 2 gigs of ram and 3gghs of processing power :p
[01:38] <Shafto> Owner, Im on cfce now
[01:38] <jasin> ghzs*
[01:38] <Shafto> Owner, xfce and it runs things fine for me
[01:38] <Owner> mmm, so firefox runs fine?
[01:38] <Shafto> Owner, Yeah, most stuff does
[01:38] <Owner> can I migrate from gnome smoothly?
[01:38] <Owner> to xfce
[01:38] <meal3837> Owner: it's basically a matter of what level of integration is acceptable, and how much main memory you want to use up with libs
[01:38] <ubuntu> yEDZzzz
[01:39] <ompaul> Lukemob, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18 or http://www.mepis.org/node/2223  no I don't have a solution for you
[01:39] <anto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15784/
[01:39] <jasin> jessid, the apic error is a bug, the programmers at ubuntu are well aware of it.
[01:39] <Shafto> Owner, Well you can install xubuntu-desktop, or xfce
[01:39] <big_bang14> i have a wacom 12x12 and ubuntu isnt mapping it properly to the screen, how can i sort this out?
[01:39] <big_bang14> !wacom 12x12
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom 12x12 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <Legu_> Hmm, this problem with old laptop. The screensaver goes on when loading ex. natutils (the position varies), so the screen is black. System keeps loading (cd keeps rolling). Then it stops and nothing happens. Screensaver doesn't go off with screen or mouse. Before the screensaver and freeze GNOME tells some error (timeout). Is it possible to get it working or should I use something lighter?
[01:39] <h3x> does anyone know a good site [tutorial]  on using the GNU compiler under linux ?
[01:40] <anto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15784/ can somone help me with this boot error??
[01:40] <meal3837> has anyone compiled their own kernel in ubuntu?
[01:40] <big_bang14> !wacom
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <Owner> so apt-get xubuntu-dektop, so then apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, then xfce will be my default?
[01:40] <LiquidPsyrix> LoL
[01:40] <jasin> jessid, there are workarounds but their kind of complicated to implament for a newbie.
[01:40] <LiquidPsyrix> Greetings.
[01:40] <LiquidPsyrix> My children.
[01:40] <yellow_chicken> h3x: the entire GNU compiler or just gcc or g++ or gij?
[01:40] <anto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15784/ can somone help me with this boot error??
[01:40] <ompaul> jessid, I had the bot send you a url please read it
[01:40] <big_bang14>  i have a wacom 12x12 and ubuntu isnt mapping it properly to the screen, how can i sort this out?
[01:41] <h3x> im trying to compile a c++ project
[01:41] <Lukemob> ompaul, thanks. But, is there any way how to fix it?
[01:41] <ompaul> h3x, perhaps #c++ ?
[01:41] <Legu_> Booting takes an hour, I guess :P
[01:41] <h3x> yep ill try thanks
[01:41] <meal3837> h3x: i found g++ easy to use for c++ compiling
[01:41] <Legu_> So maybe something ligher...
[01:41] <Shafto> Legu_, Try XFCE
[01:41] <jessid> jasin: do you have any recommendation? I do not want to work in win vista...:(
[01:42] <yellow_chicken> h3x: try use g++
[01:42] <Shafto> Legu_, Its a little lighter on the system
[01:42] <Adyeths> so... the other day my scanner suddenly stopped working in Ubuntu (edgy)... its detected by sane-find-scanner but not detected by scanimage -L now. anyone know why this might have happened and how to fix it?
[01:42] <big_bang14> any wacom users that have had problems mapping their tablet?
[01:42] <linxeh> h3x: g++, try using KDevelop or maybe Eclipse with the CDT installed as an IDE
[01:42] <Lbawinowns> Hi guys :), just a little question: how often does your sessions end with a normal shut down, I very often (3 of 4 times) do have to hold down the "hardware button" that starts the computer?
[01:42] <yellow_chicken> h3x: it's tricky since it's a project, did you start doing the project with ms studio?
[01:42] <Legu_> Shafto, You mean xubuntu?
[01:42] <Shafto> Legu_, Well yeah
[01:42] <ben> hey, does anyone know what "visual 0x5b" is?
[01:42] <jasin> jessid, format and reinstall, try that first, and dont install 7.04 fiesty its beta try edgy or draper.
[01:42] <h3x> Sorry its not a project i just wanna know how to compile source thanks
[01:42] <Owner> Adyeths did you modify any settings on the scanner itself?
[01:42] <ompaul> Lukemob, well I could suggest reinstalling but I think you may not want to do that - you could try using the recover is possible the CD or a ubuntu alternative cd or partition magic to repair it but if it is a clean install start again, if a dual boot system do a restore from your backups and do the install again
[01:43] <Shafto> Lbawinowns, I cant shutdown at all, I just go to terminal and type halt
[01:43] <h3x> yea i will try install an IDE like Codeblocks later
[01:43] <Adyeths> I didn't change any settings with the scanner. one day it worked, the next *poof* nothing.
[01:43] <Lbawinowns> that really work? Shafto?
[01:43] <Shafto> Lbawinowns, ermm for me yeah
[01:43] <jessid> jasin: ok... i will immediately...thanks!
[01:43] <meal3837> Shafto: i think there's an acpi arg that you can add to GRUB to fix that
[01:43] <ompaul> Shafto, use =?>> sudo shutdown -h now
[01:43] <Owner> did you update anything in ubuntu?>
[01:43] <Lbawinowns> Ok, since my ubunntu crashes all the time..
[01:43] <meal3837> Shafto: something like acpi=force or force-acpi
[01:43] <ben> hey, does anyone know what "visual 0x5b" is?
[01:44] <Owner> Adyeths: did you change any system settings or installed new software?
[01:44] <jasin> jessid, if that dont work come back in here :)
[01:44] <Shafto> meal3837, It doesnt bother me much at all though
[01:44] <linxeh> ben: I think it might be to do with pixel shaders in the GL driver, but not 100% sure
[01:44] <Adyeths> I installed the updates that were available. nothing to do with sane though.
[01:44] <Adyeths> didn't install any additional software between the time it was working and the time it stopped working.
[01:44] <ben> linxeh: thanks alot!
[01:44] <linxeh> ben: it may be something totally different though
[01:45] <Owner> Adyeths: did you update before it stopped working?
[01:45] <abadi2005> my usb cable mobile phone detected as Bus 004 Device 002: ID 6547:0232
[01:45] <abadi2005> (without ID) and not connected to any /dev/tty* ...  how to configure it?
[01:45] <ben> linxeh im googling right now ;)
[01:45] <Legu_> Is there an Alternate install CD from Ubuntu?
[01:45] <jasin> How faster is xubuntu? Anyone did any benchmarking?
[01:45] <Adyeths> yes. I did.
[01:45] <RustyJames> hi i cant start firefox anymore because its starting with a licence agreement and when i click on ok nothing happens, does anyone know the problem?
[01:45] <mikeconcepts> is there a web site that lists the updates for feisty?
[01:45] <ompaul> Legu_, several
[01:46] <Legu_> It could work too, because it freezes when booting from live-CD
[01:46] <Legu_> Where?
[01:46] <Adyeths> nothing I installed had anything to do with the sane scanning software.
[01:46] <ben> linxeh, i got it from a libGL warning.        "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b"
[01:46] <Owner> Adyeths:could be that some libraries that are used by sane were updated.
[01:46] <[gen2] niki> hi, i have a very urgent problem. can anyone help me? my nvidia drivers dont work anymore. they should use nvidia-glx, not nvidia-glx-new or legacy, but the module doesnt install and says that the gfx card is too old
[01:46] <Adyeths> which is why I'm confused as to WHY it quit working... even though its detected.
[01:46] <rafaguap> Good sunday everybody... here's my issue: the only way to have wireless card work on my ubuntu, is to set acpi=force to kernel... but this disables the recognized of my usb disks! Same issue on 6.06 or last beta 7.04. Packard bell laptop, atheros, using madwidi.
[01:46] <ben> linxeh so your propably on the right track
[01:47] <[gen2] niki> the gfx card is gf4ti4200
[01:47] <Shafto> Legu_, Its under the mirror lists
[01:47] <ompaul> rafaguap, did you report it as a bug for 7.04?
[01:47] <Shafto> Legu_, If you open that find a mirror near you, then in there you'll spot the alternate cd
[01:47] <jasin> Feisty is not out, you can't update something that's not out yet.
[01:47] <Lukemob> jasin
[01:48] <fulld> my syslog is being flooded with some crap about cyrus/master having the wrong version of Berkeley db
[01:48] <jasin> lukemob, umm what?
[01:48] <Lukemob> Grub loading ... please wait, Error 18 -- Please help-
[01:48] <fulld> I have no idea what those words mean, but a full / is bad
[01:48] <Lukemob> I have no idea how to fix. :(
[01:48] <Shafto> Lukemob, Google it :)
[01:48] <Legu_> Shafto, found it
[01:48] <ompaul> jasin, you can update any edition that has updated packages - and fiesty gets more updates
[01:48] <Shafto> Legu_, Well you've installed id still recommend getting xfce instead of gnome
[01:49] <ompaul> Shafto, give a useful url or nothing thanks ;-)
[01:49] <ompaul> !repeat > Lukemob (please check the message from the bot)
[01:49] <jasin> ompaul, of course but ubuntu feisty is not an offical release its beta.
[01:49] <ompaul> jasin, it gets updates hundreds of megs over the last few days
[01:49] <meal3837> jasin: you can still update it
[01:49] <Adyeths> so how would I go about making my scanner work again? am I going to have to compile xsane myself? or should I wait and hope that whatever the problem was is fixed in the near future?
[01:50] <ompaul> !timedreleases
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timedreleases - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <meal3837> jasin: mostly bug fixes
[01:50] <alef0> [gen2] niki: which driver version are you using? the 4200 support has been moved to the legacy driver in a recent release.
[01:50] <Shafto> ompaul, Im already searching for one
[01:50] <rafaguap> umpaul: not yet: I still don't know if it's a bug, or a misconfiguration from my part. kernel option "acpi=force" to make wireless work is maybe not very correct?
[01:50] <Nisch0> hi ihr n00bs
[01:50] <tatters>  running "sudo m-a update,prepare" gives me  "command not found"  error, do I need to install something to get this to run?
[01:50] <Shafto> Lukemob, You dual booting with xp?
[01:50] <Legu_> Shafto, xubuntu Live-CD or installation? What u recommend?
[01:50] <Nisch0> install
[01:51] <ompaul> !releases
[01:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[01:51] <Shafto> Legu_, You can do it either way your choice, probably easier with livecd to see fi you think its okay
[01:51] <Lukemob> Shafto: not. I removed XP, and I did automatical spliting partitions. Something like that.
[01:51] <meal3837> Legu_: just know that LiveCD is not full speed
[01:51] <nicolah> guys I get this error while ./configuring a source. I googled but I didn't find anything useful configure: error: failed to find required module qt
[01:51] <nicolah> thanks
[01:51] <jasin> here's more on that error 18 message, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/9006
[01:52] <Legu_> meal3837, I just want it to get installed :P
[01:52] <jrib> nicolah: you need the qt -dev package, search for packages with the following words in their name:  lib, qt, -dev
[01:52] <meal3837> Legu_ do you have a stand-alone gfx card?
[01:52] <[gen2] niki> alef0: cant i use glx? the legacy driver is ancient! i want compiz without extra software
[01:52] <Legu_> Well, what's that?
[01:52] <abadi2005> my cable usb.. not detected by ubuntu...
[01:52] <Lukemob> jasin, thanks.
[01:52] <jasin> Goto that site and read whats there, its about the error 18 grub error message.
[01:53] <jasin> lukemob, welcome :)
[01:53] <Legu_> It's an old laptop, so I guess not :P
[01:53] <meal3837> Legu_: like and ATi or nvidia?
[01:53] <Lukemob> I'm going to check a BIOS. ;)
[01:53] <nicolah> jrib, what about libqt4-dev ? (which is already installed)
[01:54] <meal3837> Legu_: the alt install CD is handy when resources are low, but then, I ran it on an 8 y/o computer
[01:54] <jrib> nicolah: it depends on the software you are building
[01:54] <nicolah> k
[01:54] <Shafto> Lukemob, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=406261&highlight=grub+15 seems to be a good guide on it
[01:54] <nicolah> I'll check software homepage, thanks
[01:54] <meal3837> Legu_: the LiveCD
[01:54] <alef0> [gen2] niki: I think you need a 96xx driver. the current 97xx driver does not support 4200 anymore. (which one are you using currently?)
[01:54] <jasin> why are you using usb for your cable modem? ethernet is faster.
[01:54] <Adyeths> nevermind, I'll come back later and ask.
[01:54] <jrib> nicolah: usually there is  README or INSTALL file that tells you what you need.  What are you compiling?
[01:54] <[gen2] niki> nvidia-glx is 96xx alef0
[01:54] <meal3837> Legu_: the bottom line is that the LiveCD lets you check things out first
[01:55] <[gen2] niki> and why does http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html say iam not legacy? x-x
[01:55] <Legu_> I trust it'll work with the live ;)
[01:55] <abadi2005> usb cable not detected... for gnokii...
[01:55] <Legu_> The installation, I mean
[01:55] <meal3837> I hate DSL
[01:55] <jasin> usb is typically for systems that do not have a nic, but nics are very easy to install.
[01:56] <Shafto> Legu_, The ubuntu livecd install is like one of the most reliable livecd installers ive known
[01:56] <ElephantHunter> Is it possible to see what programs are hosting on what ports?
[01:56] <alef0> [gen2] niki: 96xx should be ok. for 97xx take a look here: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[01:56] <meal3837> Legu_: LiveCD installation is almost exactly like the other . . . just inside and ubuntu environment instead of ncurses
[01:57] <rausb0> ElephantHunter: sudo netstat --inet -anp
[01:57] <[gen2] niki> alef0: i think the restricted modules cause the problem
[01:57] <rausb0> ElephantHunter: and for ipv6: sudo netstat --inet6 -anp
[01:57] <meal3837> 3.75 hours, and i've managed to download 47% of the Sabayon DVD
[01:57] <meal3837> yay DSL
[01:57] <meal3837> :(
[01:57] <ElephantHunter> awesome. Thanks rausb0
[01:57] <Shafto> [gen2] niki, Where you trying to get the drivers from?
[01:57] <jasin> bbl
[01:58] <kofler> I hate this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/64695 , why hasn't it been assigned to anyone yet?
[01:58] <meal3837> at least it's not dial-up
[01:58] <[gen2] niki> feisty beta, normal reps
[01:58] <[gen2] niki> Shafto: feisty beta, normal reps (forgot to highlight)
[01:58] <Shafto> [gen2] niki, Ohh okay, thought you might be on edgy
[01:58] <Shafto> meal3837, What is good about sabayon?
[01:59] <abadi2005> any one knows about problen on cable usb?
[01:59] <meal3837> Shafto: just checking it out
[01:59] <Shafto> meal3837, Ohh, cause i hear people talking bout it on the gentoo channel
[01:59] <abadi2005> my usb cable not detected by ubuntu
[02:00] <meal3837> Shafto: It's like best buddies with the beryl Project
[02:00] <Shafto> meal3837, Hehe
[02:00] <meal3837> Shafto: and it's supposed to be fast!
[02:00] <Shafto> meal3837, The only thing i really like about gentoo, is the building from source, although can get annoying when you have to wait forever!
[02:01] <Shafto> meal3837, Didnt notice that sabayon also has that XD
[02:01] <meal3837> Shafto: mostly, i was curious if i could get the DVD to boot on my 965 board, so far, feisty is the only distro that i could install because of the lack of PATA support
[02:01] <kofler> Shafto: Which Sabayon are you talking about? There's a program called Sabayon that allows users to custom profiles for GNOME and there's a Gentoo based binary distribution called Sabayon.
[02:01] <Shafto> kofler, The actually distro
[02:02] <SCipher> hi, I have a problem with Ubuntu
[02:02] <SCipher> actually with usb modem
[02:02] <kofler> SCipher: Go on...?
[02:03] <SCipher> I can't install drivers
[02:03] <SCipher> after unsuccesfull try
[02:03] <SCipher> the program just stops
[02:03] <cello_rasp> smbmount ..... # smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) . how do i allow user to run smbmnt?
[02:03] <SCipher> and the terminal shows:
[02:03] <kofler> SCipher: Okay, could you provide more information please? What's the card, what's the kernel version, etc. etc.
[02:03] <SCipher>  [...]  usb 2-1: [UEAGLE-ATM]  requesting firmware ueagle - atm/DSPep.bin failed with error -2
[02:03] <foug> how do i make it so new windows open in the center, or somewhere else on my screen besides the upper left corner?
[02:04] <SCipher> Ubuntu 6.10 (kernel-2.6.17-10)
[02:04] <SCipher> Sagem Fast800 e2t
[02:04] <kofler> Yuck, firmware. You probably need to download whatever atm/DSPep.bin is. Did you consult Google already?
[02:04] <SCipher> yeap
[02:04] <nicolah> jrib, unfortunately it's a big issue with qt lib. I'm not the only one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346381&highlight=moviefly
[02:05] <Maximilian1st> Hi, is there a way to enable dbus for the wpa_supplicant package in ubuntu? By hacking the diff file of the package or so?
[02:05] <meal3837> !kernel
[02:05] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:05] <Maximilian1st> Also, the package is given as 5.7 but when you ask wpa_supplicant -v it says 5.5!
[02:05] <Maximilian1st> Am I missing something here?
[02:06] <leszek> hi
[02:06] <leszek> hi
[02:06] <cello_rasp> !smbmount
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <cello_rasp> !smbmnt
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbmnt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <cello_rasp> !smb
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <cello_rasp> !samba
[02:06] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:06] <kofler> cello_rasp: You can do that in a private message as well.
[02:06] <cello_rasp> sry
[02:06] <ompaul> !bot
[02:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:06] <kofler> cello_rasp: /msg ubotu !smb for example.
[02:06] <jrib> nicolah: I'll try to compile it in a few
[02:06] <nicolah> thanks jrib
[02:07] <ompaul> cello_rasp,  kofler, ehh you do that by doing     /msg ubotu keyword
[02:07] <kofler> It was just an example.
[02:07] <SCipher> I don't even know what should I start from
[02:07] <SCipher> anyone can at least suggest sth?
[02:07] <l3mr> i have a hfsplus-formatted external harddisk with GPT partition table. Mounting it doesn't show any error, but i don't see any files on the disk... ( on my old p4 system ). Another hfsplus-disk with MBR works fine... any ideas what to do to solve this?
[02:07] <jrib> nicolah: what version are you trying to compile?
[02:07] <l3mr> !efi
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about efi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <l3mr> !gpt
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <kofler> Wow, blind and stupid.
[02:08] <Lukemob> Well, now I fixed Grub Error 18, but it says: Load grub ... please wait. And it doesn't continue. :S
[02:08] <nicolah> jrib, the one I suppose is the latest lmc-0.12.5.tar.gz
[02:08] <moDumass> hey all, i mashed my xorg.conf file how do i restore it from my backup?
[02:08] <phlax> hi i have external usb dvdwriter - when i plug it into the onboard usb interface it is detected - when i plug it into a pci usb card it is seen as a mass-storage device - how do i assoc the drivers with the device on that interface?
[02:09] <ompaul> moDumass, easier to do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:09] <SCipher> guess noone
[02:09] <SCipher> .leave
[02:09] <moDumass> what does that do?
[02:09] <Lukemob> Any idea,
[02:09] <Lukemob> ?
[02:09] <moDumass> it reconfigures it, right
[02:09] <ompaul> moDumass, sort out your xorg by reconfiguring it
[02:10] <moDumass> cool, thanks
[02:10] <meal3837> moDumass: also you can use "cp <backup file> /etc/X11/xorg.com
[02:10] <meal3837> *.conf
[02:10] <meal3837> "
[02:10] <foug> how do i make it so new windows open in the center, or somewhere else on my screen besides the upper left corner?
[02:10] <ompaul> meal3837, do it in full :)
[02:11] <meal3837> ompaul: i don't know the time and date of his backup :-P
[02:11] <cyfex> hello all
[02:12] <ompaul> meal3837, na restate the full command line - so that .conf is in there :)
[02:12] <cyfex> when is the final 7.04 going to be released?
[02:12] <meal3837> fine
[02:12] <BeepAU> I followed this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia - but when I run nvidia-xconfig as root and restart my computer all i get is a blank screen. what am i doing wrong?
[02:12] <ompaul> cyfex, 19th
[02:12] <drew> !codecs
[02:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:12] <cyfex> thanks ompaul
[02:12] <meal3837> cp <backup file> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:13] <ompaul> moDumass, ^^ that also
[02:13] <nicolah> jrib, maybe I missed this one python-qt3  I'm downloading it)
[02:14] <meal3837> ompaul: i felt dumb today, because after several months of leaving it blank, i finally realized that the PCI address wasn't in hex like the lspci output :-[
[02:14] <Lukemob> ompaul: don't you know, where should be problem? It doesn't load the GRUB. :(
[02:15] <ompaul> Lukemob, no, I don't, I run dedicated systems in the main and certainly never share them with that stuff from redmond, buy computer install an operating system in particular if there is something on there that someone thinks is an operating system
[02:17] <ompaul> Lukemob, have you got a live cd if so try booting it and using it to check the the file on your root partition /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if what is in there is sane then run grubinstall but really I never have to worry about it
[02:17] <ompaul> meal3837, here is a ooch I can feel the pain of that
[02:19] <meal3837> "the world is full of its own comings and goings"
[02:20] <moDumass> i think i just really messed up
[02:21] <orbin> ... how so?
[02:21] <meal3837> moDumas: what happened?
[02:22] <moDumass> stuff turned bad, i have no idea what i just typed, and pressed enter
[02:22] <moDumass> um, so how do i find the backup file
[02:22] <idefixx> ChanServ ACCESS LIST
[02:22] <meal3837> cd /etc/X11
[02:22] <moDumass> i cant remember what i called it, its in the same dir as xorg.conf, but i cant remember what i called it
[02:22] <meal3837> ls | less
[02:23] <Ace2016> Hi all
[02:23] <Ace2016> can someone help me install uT
[02:23] <Ace2016> Uncompressing Unreal Tournament version 436 Linux installtrap: 154: cd /tmp; /bin/rm -rf $tmpdir; exit $res: bad trap
[02:23] <Ace2016> I get that error
[02:23] <Ace2016> i'm trying to install ut
[02:24] <odium> Is there a way to back up a NTFS partition and then delete it?
[02:25] <sacater> odium: back up yes, delete im not so sure
[02:25] <mwe> Ace2016: maybe the install script doesn't like the fact that /bin/sh points to dash instead of bash. Just a guess, though.
[02:25] <meal3837> odium: dd if=<device e.g. hda1> of=<targetfile.iso>
[02:25] <reep> odium: what do you mean by backing up... more specifically I mean
[02:26] <jrib> nicolah: hmm, idk, maybe you can dig around configure and see what it does to test
[02:26] <odium> reep, the partition is greater then the capacity of anyother partition.
[02:26] <meal3837> odium, that will give you and image of the partition
[02:26] <odium> can I pipe the ntfs partition into a bzip file?
[02:27] <mwe> Ace2016: many scripts don't like that.
[02:27] <odium> dd if=/dev/hda3 of=WinXp.iso >> tar something somethin?
[02:27] <Aftermath> how do I run a shell script?
[02:27] <meal3837> odium: if it's mounted, i guess you could make a .tar.bz2
[02:27] <reep> odium: when you restore, do you expect the filesystem to be back to? or do you just want to save the files on it?
[02:27] <Ace2016> mwe: how do i change to bash, like go into a bash shell
[02:27] <odium> reep, I want to keep it 100% usible when restored.
[02:27] <jrib> Aftermath: sh /path/to/shell/script   or   chmod +x /path/to/shell/script   followed by  /path/to/shell/script
[02:28] <Aftermath> okay, thanks
[02:28] <mwe> Ace2016: sudo ln -fns /bin/bash /bin/sh. At your own risk, thouh!
[02:28] <Raiders32> hello, has anyone successfully set up Evolution to filter incoming email for viruses?
[02:28] <odium> I don't even care about  the progam files or user directories. I just don't have a CD install disk and I want to have my xp in case I need it sometime down the line.
[02:28] <hamlet> odium: the partition itself - not. you can pipe the output of dd: dd if=/dev/fs of=/dev/stdout | bzip2 -c > image.bz2
[02:29] <jrib> mwe, Ace2016: you can  sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash  as well
[02:29] <Ace2016> mwe: any way to temporatily switch to bash?
[02:29] <reep> odium: I wouldn't bet on getting it to work like that, but backing up like hamlet said there should at least keep the files safe
[02:29] <mwe> jrib: That's probably safer in case someone messes up the syntax
[02:30] <mwe> Ace2016: yes
[02:30] <sciboy> Chalk up another system saved to your live cd.
[02:30] <jenda> Ace2016: you can just type out /bin/bash whenever you need to use it instead
[02:30] <mwe> Ace2016: you could just edit the script and change the first line to #! /bin/bash
[02:30] <odium> hamlet, I tried that and though there's a fifo stdout in my dev directory I get an error "no such file or directory"
[02:30] <ndee> is there a big performance difference between x86 and the 64-bit version?
[02:31] <finalbeta> no
[02:31] <mwe> Ace2016: But like I said I was only guessing. something else could be causing your problem.
[02:31] <sciboy> ndee: No.
[02:31] <jhemono> hello
[02:31] <reep> odium: try dd if=/dev/hda3 | bzip2 > image.bz2
[02:31] <sciboy> ndee: My more intensive applications get a small boost.
[02:31] <hamlet> odium: typed out of my head. you can break the pipes and see which one is incorrect
[02:31] <mwe> reep: that looks wrong to me
[02:31] <ndee> ok, so I just gonna go with the normal x86 CD
[02:31] <reep> mwe: how so?
[02:32] <sciboy> ndee: Personally i like my 64-bit but 32-bit is much easier.
[02:32] <Ace2016> mwe: thanks
[02:32] <sciboy> No incompatibility issues to worry about.
[02:33] <aldin> Viras, ping
[02:33] <Viras> hi
[02:33] <sciboy> pong
[02:33] <mwe> reep: I'll take that back. sorry.
[02:34] <moDumass> no i think its ok, i think config sjust finnished configing
[02:34] <moDumass> hopefully
[02:34] <fivemack> Good morning
[02:35] <aldin> Viras, private?
[02:35] <Viras> jup, already opened a query to you ^^
[02:35] <fivemack> I have a small RAID problem; /proc/mdstat doesn't mention the other half of my RAID1 array
[02:35] <Raiders32> hello, has anyone successfully set up Evolution to filter incoming email for viruses?
[02:35] <Viras> aldin: But you do not seem to answer there :p
[02:35] <nicolah> jrib, using ./configure --with-Qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3/ did the trick but now it doesn't find a file called qtmod.sip which I can't even locate using locate, any idea ?
[02:36] <aldin> Viras, did u get any message on private?
[02:36] <odium> I switched it to /dev/pts/1 but it just sends the out put to the screen and doesn't pipe it into bzip2.
[02:36] <aldin> Viras, i see ur
[02:36] <ndee> sciboy: so what are your advantages? What do you use your computer for?
[02:36] <sciboy> nicolah: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search qtmod.sip
[02:36] <apolo> hi guys, any mysql expert in here, i have changed the mysql root password but it does not permit me to access to mysql with new password, i have changed the password in user table in mysql database in mysql server 5.0
[02:36] <aldin> Viras, oh wait till i indentify...
[02:36] <sciboy> ndee: Animation and art.
[02:36] <ndee> sciboy: I see.
[02:37] <odium> here's what I tried, dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/dev/pts/1 | bzip2 -c > windows.bz2
[02:37] <Viras> aldin: haven't got any private messages so far :)
[02:37] <Ace2016> mwe: i had to do sudo bashut-install-436.run  to get it to work
[02:37] <mwe> Ace2016: oh ;)
[02:37] <odium> am I using the wrong socket or something?
[02:37] <reep> odium: try dd if=/dev/hda3 | bzip2 > image.bz2
[02:37] <fivemack> ah, I should have done sudo mdadm /dev/md0 -a /dev/sdb2
[02:37] <reep> odium: ommiting of= simly sends it to stdout
[02:37] <fivemack> and indeed that seems to have done something
[02:38] <odium> thanks
[02:38] <odium> be back some other time.
[02:38] <hamlet> fivemack: look why the other disk is not available. failed? after you change the failed disk you have to add it manually the array and it's content will be syncronized
[02:38] <sciboy> nicolah: It'll take a while but that tool is a huge help for your missing dependency finding needs. =P
[02:38] <Ace2016> bye akk
[02:38] <Ace2016> bye all
[02:39] <Bjwebb> hello
[02:39] <nicolah> sciboy, it downloaded some packages, then I ran "sudo updatedb" and locate qtmod.sip gave no results
[02:39] <nicolah> what's wrong ?
[02:39] <nicolah> (thanks for the command)
[02:40] <sciboy> nicolah: You probably don't have the file.
[02:40] <sphynx> hi! Could you tell me, if it's possible to upgrade from Dapper to Feisty?
[02:40] <nicolah> so the command didn't work ?
[02:40] <sciboy> nicolah: apt-file search will go through the package content lists from what ever repositories you have in /etc/apt/sources.list and output any matches.
[02:40] <sciboy> Essentially giving you which package to then install.
[02:40] <reep> sphynx: yes, via edgy
[02:40] <mwe> reep: I guess I should be reading more manual pages. I would have suggested of=/dev/stdout
[02:40] <nicolah> sciboy, I installed those packages
[02:40] <meng> what do you call a hardware that makes 4 individual machines from 1?
[02:41] <Aftermath> if I'm running a script as root, why would it say things like this: compile.sh: 2: jars/a.jar: Permission denied || compile.sh: 2: jars/b.jar: Permission denied
[02:41] <Bjwebb> could someone tell me what kernel version feisty is going to use?
[02:41] <nicolah> uhm what's this
[02:41] <nicolah> E: Can't write in /var/cache/apt
[02:41] <sciboy> nicolah: apt-file update needs to be run as root.
[02:41] <sphynx> reep, so I need to upgrade to edgy and only then to feisty? Maybe it is simpler to setup Feisty from scratch?:)
[02:41] <sciboy> apt-file search works as normal user.
[02:41] <nicolah> I did
[02:41] <nicolah> I did sudo etc etc
[02:41] <nicolah> sudo apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search qtmod.sip
[02:42] <sciboy> sudo apt-file update then.
[02:42] <reep> sphynx: yes, upgrading you have to go through each release, which one is easiest, I'm not sure
[02:42] <sciboy> I don't think sudo pays attention to the && like bash does.
[02:42] <CokeNCode> hey guys quick question
[02:42] <Aftermath> if I'm running a script as root, why would it say things like this: compile.sh: 2: jars/a.jar: Permission denied || compile.sh: 2: jars/b.jar: Permission denied
[02:42] <CokeNCode> how do you access the recycle bin from the cmmand line ?
[02:42] <sciboy> So type, sudo apt-file update, then apt-file search qtmod.sip
[02:42] <mwe> nicolah: sudo only works for your first command
[02:43] <mwe> nicolah: you need sudo foo && sudo bar ...
[02:43] <mwe> nicolah: or sudo -i to get a root prompt if you need to do a lot as root
[02:43] <saxin> CokeNCode: cd .Trash
[02:43] <reep> mwe: yea, I had to check that with a test file to see if it actually worked as expected, I usually always have a if= and of= when using dd
[02:43] <CokeNCode> thanks saxin
[02:43] <roryy> one can use packages.ubuntu.com instead of apt-file
[02:43] <CokeNCode> jeeze, i should've known that
[02:44] <saxin> :)
[02:44] <nicolah> I gave sudo apt-file update && apt-file search qtmod.sip and now it's doing somethiing
[02:44] <CokeNCode> i remember it created that same folder on my mp3 player, and it was hidden, so i couldn't figure out why with 3 songs my mp3 player was full
[02:44] <nicolah> something with a lot of %
[02:44] <CokeNCode> thanks a heap
[02:44] <sphynx> reep, if I'd setup feisty from scratch, could I leave my /home untouched (it is mounted as separated partition), so my programs' preferences remain
[02:44] <nicolah> just wait
[02:45] <gordonjcp> sphynx: if it's a separate partition, just don't reformat it ;-)
[02:45] <Numer0bis> does anyone know a good open source video streaming solution which works under ubuntu, besides videolan ?
[02:45] <Seatux__> what do you call the thing where you can make 4 pc s out of one?
[02:45] <klecu> cluster?
[02:46] <klecu> oh, sorry, that's virtual machine
[02:46] <reep> sphynx: yes, I did that with edgy at least, reinstalled edgy, but left my /home intact
[02:46] <sphynx> gordonjcp, but how about the programs? Will majority of them work as usual with my preferences from dapper?
[02:46] <CokeNCode> hey saxin , which folder is .trash in ?
[02:46] <reep> sphynx: should be possible with feisty too. just make sure you choose to partition manually during installation, and make sure you mount the home partition to /home and _not_ format
[02:46] <sciboy> nicolah: the update will take a while, but then you can apt-file search all you like.
[02:47] <Raiders32> CokeNCode:  .Trash is in your home folder
[02:47] <Appears> hi does someone knwos, how the package is called to install the header s for the kernel to compile?Because I want to make modules and always comes the message that it can't find linux/module.h
[02:47] <nicolah> thanks sciboy
[02:47] <sciboy> Got results?
[02:47] <sphynx> reep, OK, thanks! I will wait for Feisty release then :) and will try
[02:47] <mwe> sphynx: you can even do it if /home is on the root partition. Just wipe everything else from a live cd
[02:47] <hamlet> sphynx: yes. i did it for my parents and everything works fine
[02:47] <gordonjcp> sphynx: some things will, some things may be a little odd
[02:47] <reep> sphynx: If you're gonna do that, I would suggest backing up /etc to use as a template for setting up your new system. sudo tar jcf ~/etc.tar.bz2 /etc
[02:47] <dockane> hi all
[02:48] <sphynx> reep, yeah, I will backup mt /etc, it's a good idea
[02:48] <sphynx> ok, thank you all, guys!
[02:48] <klecu> Has anyone tried the latest ati proprietary drivers on a dell d600?
[02:49] <dockane> i wonder why "file /sbin/killall5" says "data"... pidof (which is a symlink to /sbin/killall5) says "bash: /bin/pidof: cannot execute binary file". whats wrong?
[02:49] <Tom__> hey guys, can't find a usb printing port on my feisty machine, any ideas?
[02:49] <CokeNCode> oops, thanks guys, case sensitivity got me ... .Trash .. not .trash
[02:50] <klecu> I installed the 8.35 version of ATI's proprietary drivers and I get a "no screens found error"
[02:51] <klecu> Any ideas?
[02:52] <hamlet> dockane: for some very strange reason /sbin/killall5 is not executable program but some random binary chunk of data. no idea why
[02:52] <sciboy> I really wish Pencil would get a linux port. =(
[02:53] <zak_> is there an ubuntu or general desktop linux or gnome-related application wishlist anywhere? i'm looking for project ideas...
[02:53] <hamlet> dockane: the program is installed by sysvinit-utils. you may try to reinstall this package. but if you haven't played with your file system, maybe someone else did...
[02:55] <sciboy> zak_: Well it'd be nice if someone could help the developer work out a linux port of this: http://www.les-stooges.org/pascal/pencil/index.php?id=Home
[02:56] <hamlet> dockane: you may try to track the changes to your files with something like aide but this is very annoying with lots of updated packages
[02:56] <dockane> hamlet: chkrootkit did not find anything suspicios..
[02:56] <roryy> zak_: something like https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ ?
[02:57] <hamlet> dockane: chkrootkit cannot give the ultimate answer if your fs has been tampered. it won't find custom rootkits
[02:57] <dockane> i see
[02:58] <hamlet> dockane: it's best to start with fresh install tracked by aide. its a lot of work but if you need to be sure this is the safest way
[03:00] <finalbeta> I have a FAT32 MP3 player/USB disk. I can copy exactly 512MB to it. And it has 512Mb free space left. When I'm inside Ubuntu, I can't copy anything more then 512MB, it gives me not enough space left on device. But really there is still 512MB left.
[03:00] <zak_> sciboy: why isn't it already ported? seems to be Qt based...
[03:00] <finalbeta> Sounds familiar to anyone?
[03:01] <zak_> finalbeta: might be stuff in the trash bin? it's kept on the device, and sometimes it gets irritating... have you deleted stuff from it?
[03:01] <dockane> hamlet: this may be the ultimative solution. i still would like to know if this is the case
[03:01] <finalbeta> zak_: I'm checking that right now.
[03:02] <hamlet> dockane: i don't understand your last sentence: what do you want to know?
[03:03] <richardh_> Hello everyone, once again I come in search for a solution for my swap problem...
[03:03] <finalbeta> zak_: no 509mb free space left now. But gnome errors on transfer
[03:04] <xMorgawr> hi guys, i have a problem.. i'm trying to install a game using wine but during the setup, when it asks me to change cd, i can't eject my cd from my cd-drive in order to change it.. can someone help me please?
[03:04] <hamlet> dockane: if you want to know if your install have been tampered with and you have spare partition and your install is pretty standard
[03:05] <hamlet> dockane: you can make a similar install on the spare partition and binary compare the files
[03:05] <zak_> finalbeta: hmm, no idea then.. sorry
[03:05] <dockane> hamlet: a fresh install with an ids would be the ultimate solution but i still would like to know if this an error caused by an update or something else or the system got infected by some backdoor/rootkit
[03:05] <richardh_> is there a way to repartition the swap partition?
[03:05] <reep> !partition | richardh_
[03:05] <ubotu> richardh_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:05] <hamlet> dockane: it will take a lot of time and work but you'll see if other files have been manipultated also (or if they are some unexpected new files)
[03:05] <leszek> re
[03:05] <xMorgawr> so, can someone help me?
[03:06] <compengi> !paste
[03:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:06] <sphynx> !fstab
[03:06] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:06] <c0ntrol> Hello, where do I start if I want to build a .deb package for Ubuntu ?
[03:06] <roryy> xMorgawr: try asking in #winehq if you don't get help here
[03:07] <richardh_> reep: thanks for the info...but is it good practice to only repartition the swap? or can this possibly corrupt my system?
[03:07] <dockane> hamlet: is there any documentation to this file-to-file compare and how do that? what should i search for?
[03:07] <xMorgawr> thanks roryy i'll try
[03:07] <roryy> c0ntrol: as i recall, there are packaing docs, or links to docs, on the ubuntu wiki. let me know if you can't find them
[03:07] <jrib> c0ntrol: help.ubuntu.com has a packaging guide which includes other good references as well
[03:08] <ataq> Hey can someone help me out with a problem?
[03:08] <c0ntrol> jrib: I found it, thanks a lot man
[03:08] <hamlet> dockane: diff -r /mnt/oldinstall /mnt/newinstall (from lifecd preferrable in order not to consider /proc)
[03:08] <reep> richardh_: what exactly do you have problems with?
[03:09] <TM-Gone> hello?
[03:09] <richardh_> reep: I had a corrupted swap partition as referred to in a few bugreports connected with edgy dist upgrades
[03:10] <richardh_> reep: I did the necessary things (modified fstab to reflect the new UUID, etc.), but now the swap partition is acting strangely
[03:10] <richardh_> reep: basically, it stops being used at exact the same amount of memory...
[03:10] <TM-Gone> is ubuntu server LTS commandline only or will it boot like ubuntu desktop??
[03:10] <reep> richardh_: ah, hm, well removing the swap partition and creating it again should work fine I think
[03:10] <hamlet> dockane: you may want to use "-q" for diff also. take a look at the man page
[03:11] <richardh_> reep: and in the process, my CPU heats up and the system becomes unresponsive
[03:11] <reep> richardh_: that's weird behaviour though
[03:11] <richardh_> reep: I know...hard to find answers as it's really difficult to narrow down
[03:11] <richardh_> reep: but I'm pretty sure now it must be that, as I've already made sure my CPU isn't the culprit
[03:12] <reep> richardh_: how big is your physical memory, and how big is the swap partition?
[03:12] <richardh_> reep: physical is 1GB, swap is 1.4GB
[03:12] <richardh_> reep: or 1.5 actually
[03:13] <reep> richardh_: sounds like a good setup
[03:13] <Murpheos> I am running 7.04 on my laptop nut i cannot get my SB soundcard to work.... Just downloaden the latest kernelupdates but no go...;-( Any helpers.... I love music ....;-(
[03:13] <dockane> hamlet: i found some hidden directories in /dev.  /dev/.static (directory)  /dev/.udev (directory)  /dev/.initramfs (directory)  /etc/.java (directory)
[03:14] <reep> richardh_: make sure you unmount the swap partition before altering it, or removing and recreating it though
[03:14] <richardh_> reep: I think so too...the computer is fairly new (half year)
[03:14] <hamlet> dockane: /dev/.static is ok. not sure for the others
[03:14] <reep> richardh_: sudo swapoff -a should do the trick. Check with "free"
[03:14] <richardh_> reep: right, will do
[03:14] <hamlet> dockane: i have them here too
[03:14] <richardh_> reep: then with qtparted?
[03:15] <hamlet> dockane: without /dev/.java
[03:15] <reep> richardh_: yes, or simply with fdisk if you know how to operate it
[03:15] <Woodrag> I am running Ubuntu FF 7.04 on my laptop but i cannot get my SB soundcard to work.... Just downloaded the latest kernelupdates but no go...;-( Any helpers.... I love music ....;-(
[03:15] <dockane> hamlet .. ha ok
[03:15] <richardh_> reep: I think I'll stick to the GUI ;)
[03:16] <MK_Mike> Hello, can somone help me with a problem with apt.. when i start apt-get update it dowloads the reposarty file and then it displays this message ''
[03:16] <MK_Mike> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[03:16] <MK_Mike> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:16] <MK_Mike> any ideas?
[03:16] <hamlet> dockane: but a binary compare is better because rootkits try to hide in well known locations (preferrably directories which change a lot). one of the fascinating ideas was directory named "..."
[03:17] <reep> MK_Mike: you've added a repository without adding it's key. It will still work though, it's just a warning
[03:17] <Belisarivs> Hi. Does anybody here have any experiences with packaging scripts used to create deb packages?
[03:17] <richardh_> reep: just noticed that my partition table has /sda3 listed as "extended" and unused, and it's the same size as the swap partition...normal? My swap is sda5
[03:17] <hamlet> Belisarivs: yes
[03:19] <nicolah> thanks jrib and sciboi and you all, I managed to install the software (it sucks though) thanks =)
[03:19] <reep> richardh_: a harddisk can only have 4 partitons (from the old days) to have more partitions you create an extended partition, and inside the extended partition you can have lots of logical partitions
[03:19] <reep> richardh_: it sounds like you have an extended partition with one logical partition, being your swap partition
[03:20] <MK_Mike> reep: is there a way to stop it buging me with this wanning?
[03:20] <richardh_> reep: right, thanks
[03:20] <reep> MK_Mike: yes, add the key
[03:20] <MK_Mike> reep: how?
[03:20] <richardh_> reep: I'll reformat the swap now...will let you know whether my computer exploded or not ;)
[03:21] <sciboy> Any ideas? I need to burn a cd but i'm already running off a live cd. =|
[03:21] <reep> MK_Mike: http://winehq.com/site/download-deb the line starting with wget there, adds the key
[03:22] <MK_Mike> reep: thanks
[03:22] <joonr> Hello. I am new to Ubuntu. What is the equivalent of Ctr + Alt + Del in Windows within Ubuntu? I.e. I cannot access my desktop and need to terminate the process that is preventing me from doing so. Thanks
[03:22] <surface> i buy a new external sata hdd with usb2.0, it doesn't mount and shows error "usb 4-1: device descriptor read/64, error -7"
[03:22] <surface> any solution on that?
[03:23] <hamlet> sciboy: there are livecd's which fit completely into the main memory and you can pop out the cd once they are loaded. ubuntu is fat and it wont work probably. the other option is to use second cd drive (obviously not existent for your case)
[03:23] <bulmer> sciboy it would not work unless you have oodles of RAM memory to chroot to and also a space for copying image to before burning cd
[03:24] <sciboy> joonr: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE will kill the graphical server.
[03:24] <sciboy> bulmer: 1.5gig enough? The ISO is 150mb.
[03:24] <adaptr> restart X
[03:24] <adaptr> not kill
[03:24] <Woodrag> any thip to get my hp scanjet 4370 to work with ubuntu?
[03:24] <sciboy> bulmer: Plus there's already 3 gig of swap activated.
[03:25] <Antalmir> Hello
[03:25] <ubotu1> !piracy > ubotu
[03:25] <sciboy> adaptr: Actually it only restarts because gdm reinstates it.
[03:25] <reep> richardh_: if you only reformat, then you don't need to reboot, simply typing sudo swapon -a   should work, granted that you made the proper changes in /etc/fstab
[03:25] <ubotu1> !reep
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <Lbawinowns> after installing wine, where does it lie?
[03:25] <adaptr> sciboy: yeah, I thought of that later
[03:25] <bulmer> sciboy try it? create a ramdisk for storing the iso image, then also chroot and see if you can do it this way, i have not tried it myself
[03:25] <surface> i buy a new external sata hdd with usb2.0, it doesn't mount and shows error "usb 4-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71"
[03:25] <joonr> sciboy, thanks. I just tried it :) Is there anything like the windows task manager in Ubuntu?
[03:25] <Antalmir> I have a problem with my tablet ( Trust TB-4200)
[03:25] <richardh_> reep: well, as I'm not using UUIDs in fstab, I don't need to edit anything, right?
[03:26] <ubotu1> !piracy > reep
[03:26] <reep> richardh_: I suggest you don't use the uuid for the swap, just use /dev/sda5
[03:26] <NBrepresent> hi everyone. can someone tell me how to add my user to a group?
[03:26] <ubotu1> !fart
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <reep> richardh_: right, good :)
[03:26] <Antalmir> it is an aiptek driver
[03:26] <richardh_> reep: yes, I already do ;)
[03:26] <Antalmir> Nobody can help me ?
[03:26] <sciboy> joonr: I swear i noticed a site with exactly that, let me see if i can pull it up again.
[03:26] <ubotu1> !kernel
[03:26] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:26] <sciboy> joonr: Gnome has a system thingy, but it's not mapped to any hotkey.
[03:26] <richardh_> reep: everything's still working...need to let computer do some work now and see whether swap will be used correctly again
[03:27] <NBrepresent> hello?? how do i add myself to a group?
[03:27] <sciboy> joonr: The site i saw had instructions for mapping it to CRTL+ALT+DEL
[03:27] <joonr> sciboy, thanks. I will go google and see if I can find it
[03:27] <alex_> joonr can use utomatix
[03:27] <ndee_> to resize an ntfs partition, does it need to be defragmented?
[03:27] <sciboy> joonr: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/TipsAndTricks#How_to_enable_Ctrl.2BAlt.2BDel_to_open_System_Monitor_in_GNOME
[03:27] <dockane> hamlet: apt-get --reinstall install sysvinit did it but ill have an eye on it and probably will check it from a livecd, with a fresh isntall. thank you for you help, i apreciated it.
[03:27] <kingofproblems> hei people. im in trouble i think. I got a sata hardisk with xp on it, and i tried to install ubuntu on top to i could get grub into it. the instalation did not go well and i cant neighter get into ubuntu or xp.
[03:27] <sciboy> I hope that's what you're looking for?
[03:28] <h3x0r_> is there a gnome front end debugger for the GNU ??
[03:28] <kingofproblems> anyone that can talk me trough the instalation part in a private channel?
[03:28] <hamlet> dockane: you're welcome
[03:28] <reep> ndee_: possibly yes, if it's very fragmented
[03:28] <hamlet> h3x0r_: ddd (not exaclty gnome but gui)
[03:29] <ndee_> reep: ok, it's 50% fragmented so yeah, gonna let a defrag program run :D
[03:29] <Afief_> How can i transfer files over an SSH session?
[03:29] <kingofproblems> when i was instaling ive tried to install the ubuntu onto a 50 gb space. but it promped me back to instalation telling me taht i didnt have a
[03:30] <rambo3> cow?
[03:30] <sacater> Afief_: research the 'scp' command
[03:30] <rausb0> Afief_: remote to local or local to remote?
[03:30] <sacater> Afief_: i use that
[03:30] <reep> ndee_: 50%?! nice!
[03:30] <esso> whats up?
[03:30] <Afief_> rausb0: Local to remote
[03:30] <hamlet> Afief_: sftp
[03:30] <esso> someone here who can help me with EasyUbuntu
[03:30] <ndee_> reep: yep :D
[03:30] <esso> would not sart when I click on it
[03:30] <rausb0> Afief_: scp local_file username@remote_hostname:/path/on/remote/host
[03:31] <esso> running Ubuntu 7.04 BETA
[03:31] <ndee_> reep: no defragmentation since about 1 or 2 years
[03:31] <kingofproblems> im gonna try install again while i look here for some answer or help.
[03:31] <rausb0> Afief_: if you omit the path, the file will be put into username's home dir
[03:31] <schizoschaf> esso don't use EasyUbuntu
[03:31] <esso> why?
[03:32] <Afief_> rausb0: does it work the other way around too? as in scp username@remote_hostname:/path/{files} /local/path ?
[03:32] <rausb0> Afief_: but you still need the colon ":" after remote_hostname
[03:32] <schizoschaf> esso: it doesn't have no undo
[03:32] <schizoschaf> esso and you don't really know what it did
[03:32] <rausb0> Afief_: yes it does
[03:32] <esso> like I will undo downloading codecs....
[03:32] <moDumass> hey all, i had to reconfix my xorg.conf file and now i have read access of one of my ntfs drives but not write access, any ideas?
[03:32] <esso> ok, youve got a point
[03:32] <esso> need MP3-support
[03:32] <rausb0> Afief_: like this scp chris@somehost:src/myprog.c .
[03:33] <esso> but Automatix does not give me that
[03:33] <reep> esso: the proper place for help with feisty is #ubuntu+1
[03:33] <esso> Ryhtmbox and other applications still says that I can't play MP3
[03:33] <reep> !automatix | esso
[03:33] <ubotu> esso: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:33] <macpo3> hi, where do I choose the splash screens that are shown when ubuntu is loading / shutting down, i.e. the screens with progress bars that appear before the login screen is displayed on boot, and before power off on closedown
[03:33] <kingcobra> how can u mount iso images
[03:34] <rausb0> Afief_: you can also mount ssh access using sshfs. very cool.
[03:34] <oldude67> good morning
[03:34] <thehumanerror> What's the difference between the first user and all the other users on the system? Is it just that the first user has sudo?
[03:34] <thehumanerror> and how can I make another one sudo?
[03:34] <thehumanerror> please
[03:34] <Zenerek> esso try ubuntu .com undercomunity and documentation
[03:34] <esso> reep: ok...thank you...going to the right room..bye
[03:34] <hamlet> kingcobra: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop/0 image /mnt/image
[03:34] <kingofproblems> im installing ubunto now.........   im selecting the manually edit partition table. since the other options will overwrite the entire disk and i have xp installed on it. -
[03:34] <rausb0> thehumanerror: all users in the group "admin" can do sudo
[03:35] <Afief_> rausb0: now that sounds neat:) that would be mount -T sshfs username@hotst:/path /mount/point?
[03:35] <kingofproblems> i got 1 unallooacated space of 50 gb. what format should that space be
[03:35] <kingcobra> hamlet thanks very much
[03:35] <thehumanerror> righto, so I just add any other user to that, and they're as good as being the first user on the system?
[03:35] <thehumanerror> or are there other things that will creep up on me :)
[03:35] <rausb0> Afief_: no, it would be   sshfs user@host:/path /mount/point
[03:35] <reep> thehumanerror: in System -> Administration -> Users and Groups, you can add more users, you can add Default, Desktop and Administrator users. The latter can use sudo
[03:35] <Aftermath> I need to access windows partition files from windows, how do I do this?
[03:35] <rausb0> Afief_: sudo apt-get install sshfs
[03:35] <Aftermath> from linux *
[03:35] <gregors> anyone know how to reinstall XP over dual boot system ...or ..how to reinstall grub after XP reinstall
[03:35] <kingofproblems> should it be logical or primary? and what format?
[03:36] <bulmer> kingofproblems: what format would you like it to be? you can leave it unused
[03:36] <rausb0> Afief_: unmounting sshfs is:  fusermount -u /mount/point
[03:36] <moDumass> hmmm, how do i reenable write access on an hdd?
[03:36] <rausb0> Afief_: to use sshfs you need to put your user in the group "fuse"
[03:36] <thehumanerror> reep: cool, I just want to be sure that they're in no way different to the "original" sudoer
[03:37] <kingofproblems> when creating a new partition for linux. should it be logical or primary?
[03:37] <thehumanerror> it doesn't matter
[03:37] <HymnToLife> kingofproblems, either, doesn't matter
[03:37] <thehumanerror> primary is less complicated
[03:37] <[BTF] Chm0d> morning all....I deleted a panel that had the task bar and would like to put it back what is it called in ubuntu?
[03:37] <kingofproblems> ok. and what filesystem should it be
[03:37] <kingofproblems> ? swap?
[03:37] <Afief_> rausb0: packages installed, usergroup set. gonna try it now
[03:38] <reep> thehumanerror: if you add them as an administrator user, the only difference between the users will be the username, and the uid
[03:38] <HymnToLife> kingofpro
[03:38] <bulmer> Aftermath: have the partition mounted and access it like any other partitions
[03:38] <HymnToLife> blem*
[03:38] <kingcobra> hamlet, /dev/loop/0: No such file or directory
[03:38] <HymnToLife> ext3, if you don't know what to use
[03:38] <kingcobra> hamlet, should i just create that dir
[03:38] <kingofproblems> thanks hymno
[03:38] <rausb0> Afief_: btw, the server side does not need any special changes. a normal sshd on the server side will suffice.
[03:38] <tim___> hey, where is ubuntu's modules.conf located ?
[03:38] <Pelo> !fuse > Pelo
[03:38] <Zenerek> thehumanerror:  i thought you needed a primary to boot? or does the boot flag do it all?
[03:38] <nicolah> tim___, it's just /etc/modules
[03:38] <Aftermath> how can I get to the partition manager?
[03:38] <thehumanerror> reep: ace, thanks!
[03:39] <tim___> ah thx nicolah
[03:39] <thehumanerror> OK, next question
[03:39] <Aftermath> the thing in the install where it let me create partitions
[03:39] <rausb0> Afief_: i think you must re-login after adding you to a group
[03:39] <hamlet> kingcobra: strange. do you have /dev/loop0 instead?
[03:39] <bulmer> Aftermath: fdisk
[03:39] <sphynx> have anybody used WartyWarthog ubuntu ditrsibution? :)
[03:39] <Aftermath> thanks
[03:39] <HymnToLife> sphynx, yes
[03:39] <Afief_> rausb0: wouldn't have worked for me under any other circumstances... I am using the university ssh server
[03:39] <kingofproblems> i hope this thing mounts all right now....
[03:40] <reep> Aftermath: you need to install it, it's either gparted (for ubuntu) or qtparted(for kubuntu)
[03:40] <sphynx> HymnToLife, cool, and how it was?
[03:40] <kingcobra> hamlet, yes and /dev/lp0
[03:40] <HymnToLife> sphynx, Debian with different artwork :p
[03:40] <thehumanerror> if I ssh into my Mum's laptop, I've just realised, what if I export vncviewer localhost from there?
[03:40] <thehumanerror> or would hta tbe silly
[03:40] <hamlet> kingcobra: use /dev/loop0. sorry - i'm not on ubuntu
[03:40] <thehumanerror> would that be silly*
[03:40] <kingcobra> hamlet, ok thanx
[03:41] <hamlet> kingcobra: np
[03:41] <reep> thehumanerror: I don't understand the question
[03:41] <sphynx> HymnToLife, hehe :) it would be a nice joke - to ask some question here and then say "I'm using Warty" :)
[03:41] <[BTF] Chm0d> what is another name for ubuntus taskbar?  I have deleted it and would like to add it back?
[03:41] <rausb0> Afief_: and does the sshfs mount work now?
[03:41] <Afief_> rausb0: yup looks like I need to log out. brb
[03:41] <rausb0> Afief_: okay
[03:41] <thehumanerror> if I ssh into a computer with the -X option
[03:42] <robinlinth> Where can i get support for Regnum Online?
[03:42] <sphynx> HymnToLife, I'm just reading about ubuntu history
[03:42] <thehumanerror> and then run vncviewer on that computer (the remote one) but with the display forwarded back to me
[03:42] <Aftermath> how do I create a mount point?
[03:42] <cox377> I've been trying to mount a SMB drive and now when i run DF-H I've got the same drive mounted in the same location lik 6 times
[03:42] <thehumanerror> it's just any directory
[03:42] <cox377> where is the file to delete those mounts?
[03:42] <HymnToLife> sphynx, yep, that would be fun, that's one of the things I find disturbing with Linux, it evolves too fast
[03:42] <thehumanerror> Aftermath: it's just any directory
[03:42] <Aftermath> okay
[03:42] <Aftermath> thanks
[03:42] <joecrabs77> HELP  -  i'm new to unbuntu and i'm trying to get my wireless card to work
[03:42] <reep> thehumanerror: ah, gotcha. Never tried it, but in theory that should work
[03:43] <HymnToLife> while in FBSD, you can use a HOWTO form 1999 and be pretty sure it still works
[03:43] <LjL> !wifi > joecrabs77    (joecrabs77, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:43] <thehumanerror> Aftermath: /media is a good place to put a temporary mount point
[03:43] <HymnToLife> joecrabs77, what kind of wireless card ?
[03:43] <thehumanerror> Aftermath: and /mnt is a good place for a permanent, every day one
[03:43] <joecrabs77> rcm4318
[03:43] <ubd> hello! i mounted a partition to a random folder several days ago? now 16gb(/) hd is full.  what should i do?
[03:43] <Aftermath> thanks, guys
[03:44] <sphynx> HymnToLife, but why such fast evolving's bad?
[03:44] <bulmer> ubd delete some files
[03:44] <Aftermath> I managed to mount my windows partition
[03:44] <LjL> !away > ianw|away    (ianw|away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:44] <Pelo> ubd,  empty your trash can
[03:44] <HymnToLife> sphynx, I didn't say "bad", I said "distrurbing"
[03:44] <rausb0> Afief_: that's why i run irssi in screen. no need for disconnect even when logging out.
[03:44] <jin> does gaim has a plugin that change my "nick" to the song name for the msn protocol?
[03:45] <Pimp1984> Hi - I've got some major problems with the Feisty installation.
[03:45] <kingofproblems> anyone has experience playing eve-online on linux?
[03:45] <Afief_> rausb0: works like a charm:D
[03:45] <USMarine> Pimp1984 that's why it's beta
[03:45] <rausb0> Afief_: cool :)
[03:45] <ubd> is there any temp folder in linux? i need hd space urgently
[03:45] <joecrabs77> i've tried my hand at reading the help files, but i've only become more confussed
[03:45] <USMarine> ubd /tmp
[03:45] <[BTF] Chm0d> how do I add a systray to ubuntu?  I deleted the other one
[03:45] <Pimp1984> Has anyone else used it?
[03:45] <rausb0> Afief_: remember, to unmount:   fusermount -u /mountpoint
[03:45] <USMarine> i use festy
[03:45] <Faugn> ubd: sudo apt-get clean, to remove downloaded .deb
[03:45] <Pelo> udb the /tmp folder doesnT' usualy get loaded, if's very nice about this
[03:45] <LjL> [BTF] Chm0d: right click on the panel, Add new applet, and add it
[03:46] <sphynx> HymnToLife, ok, I've treated "disturbing" as "bad" :) my fault
[03:46] <[BTF] Chm0d> yea but its not called systray
[03:46] <LjL> [BTF] Chm0d: notification area
[03:46] <[BTF] Chm0d> whats the name of it?
[03:46] <[BTF] Chm0d> ah
[03:46] <USMarine> in kde it's system tray i believe
[03:46] <Faugn> [BTF] Chm0d: notification area, maybe
[03:46] <Pimp1984> I set up mirrored RAID successfully, it got onto the select and install software stage and then the installer failed.
[03:46] <USMarine> Pimp1984 google for ubuntu raid howto
[03:46] <USMarine> if you haven't read it yet
[03:47] <[BTF] Chm0d> ty very much guys
[03:47] <HymnToLife> sphynx, for example, I never wrote much documentation for Linux since it gets outdated in two years
[03:47] <Afief_> rausb0: tell me, how can have a folder like that mount at startup?
[03:47] <Lbawinowns> can you download additional dictionaries? The current Swedish one is terrible.
[03:47] <USMarine> Afief_ edit /etc/fstab
[03:47] <Ice_Wewe> I'm having a problem installing a custom kernel, whenever I try to boot it, it says '/lib/modules/2.6.17.14-ubuntu1/modules.dep: No such file or directory' even though there is.
[03:47] <rausb0> USMarine: hmm, would be difficult for a sshfs mount
[03:47] <Ice_Wewe> it also complains about not being able to mount devfs
[03:47] <E42> hi , there is the main panel in the upper left corner , when i click on it there are such categories like : graphics , multimedia ,system , others , etc . Now i want to delete some apps in the others section . How to do it ? Can anyone help me plz
[03:47] <USMarine> oh didnt read that pat
[03:47] <USMarine> part*
[03:48] <E42> ps. i've got xfce
[03:48] <sphynx> HymnToLife, are you working on some project for Linux? Or you say about general documentation about installations, some linux issues, etc.
[03:48] <Afief_> USMarine: doesn't work, I want it to be mounted as a user filesystem(sshfs in particular)
[03:48] <HymnToLife> sphynx, generally speaking
[03:48] <USMarine> E42 there should be a menu editor under the options menu
[03:48] <rausb0> Afief_: the problem is that some instance has to prompt for the ssh password and that cannot be done during boot
[03:48] <E42> USMarine , i cant find anything ;/
[03:48] <HymnToLife> sphynx, for example, if one wanted to do something like the FBSD Handbook for Ubuntu
[03:48] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm now when I close gaim it use to go into systray but now it doesn't?  it just closes.  I have go to systray set in gaims preferences any thoughts on this?
[03:49] <HymnToLife> it would need to be rewritten entirely every year
[03:49] <rausb0> Afief_: maybe it can be included in part of the gnome session scripts
[03:49] <Afief_> rausb0: well, is there a way to graphically ask for the password on login?
[03:49] <ubd> properties of /home shows 3000 subfolders but i only see 4 and they are total of 1 gb not 80gb!!!
[03:49] <USMarine> E42 google for gnome menu editing
[03:49] <Pelo> [BTF] Chm0d,  check in the prefs
[03:49] <Faugn> rausb0: using ssh-askpass
[03:49] <HymnToLife> ubd, are you showing hidden files
[03:49] <jrib> ubd: well there are a lot of hidden folders as well
[03:49] <Pimp1984> Setting up RAID isn't a problem. However, since the installation failed after that I now want to get rid of the RAID setup and start over. How do I do that?
[03:49] <E42> USMarine ok , but i got xfce
[03:49] <USMarine> hmm
[03:49] <rausb0> Afief_: if the graphical login uses ssh-agent, it should be possible. then sshfs wouldnt ask for a password.
[03:49] <sphynx> HymnToLife, really entirely? I've thought that there are no such global changes from release to release..
[03:49] <Pelo> ubd,   crtl+h to see hidden files and folder
[03:49] <Faugn> sorry, meant Afief_ : ssh-askpass
[03:49] <USMarine> this is ubuntu
[03:49] <USMarine> not xubuntu
[03:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> pelo i did its set to go into systray
[03:50] <rausb0> Afief_: just what Faugn said
[03:50] <Faugn> Afief_: there are graphical version
[03:50] <[BTF] Chm0d> but like i said it just closes
[03:50] <kryddturken> Hi everyone, I am having some issues with setting and changing the current charset. Basically, I am telnetting to a server which sends strings as ISO 8859-1. I assume the standard Xterm in Ubuntu does not conform to this since I can not see those characters. However, if I use charset G0 8859-1, I get the proper data from the server but my local characters are all messy. Any pointers to documentation I should read? Been googling lik
[03:50] <kryddturken> e crazy for a while.
[03:50] <ubd> pelo: nothing changes
[03:50] <Faugn> Afief_: ssh-askpass-gnome
[03:50] <Pelo> [BTF] Chm0d,  hold on , checking something,  meanwhile right click on the top pannel and select add to pannel
[03:50] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: when you compiled the kernel, did you update the links? maybe those are part of the make targets
[03:50] <[BTF] Chm0d> k
[03:50] <shawn34> Will KleenSweep run correctly on ubuntu/gnome?
[03:51] <Pelo> [BTF] Chm0d,    look in the list for pannel notification or something ,  add that to your pannel
[03:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> i did pelo :)
[03:51] <rausb0> Afief_: using ssh-agent and ssh pubkey auth is a good idea anyway
[03:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> but that doesn't work either hehe
[03:51] <Pelo> [BTF] Chm0d,  that should be it
[03:51] <Faugn> kryddturken: you could change the charset only for one term, the one where you telnet
[03:51] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: I configured it, made the modules, and
[03:51] <Ice_Wewe> (sorry about that) and 'make install'
[03:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> it use to be when I closed gaim it would go into systray or anything else like xchat but they just close now
[03:51] <hamlet> Kyral: start your telnet session like this "LC_ALL=ISO-8859-1 telnet ip"
[03:52] <moDumass> hey can anyone walk me through getting write access on this drive that i had write access on yesteday... this makes no sense
[03:52] <Kyral> ...hu?
[03:52] <moDumass> sorry
[03:52] <hamlet> Kyral: sorry. it was not for you
[03:52] <sphynx> kryddturken, have you tried to run telnet with different LANG ?
[03:52] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: isnt there like an extra step of making sure initrd is also prepared?
[03:52] <kryddturken> Faugn, oh yes, the problem is that the local characters in that term is all messed up as well.
[03:52] <Pimp1984> Can anyone tell me how to get rid of my software RAID setup as the install of Feisty has failed and I want to start over.
[03:52] <kryddturken> sphynx, hm. I will look into that :L)
[03:52] <hamlet> kryddturken: start your telnet session like this "LC_ALL=ISO-8859-1 telnet ip"
[03:52] <Kyral> hamlet: Sokay, we have all had tab complete's gone wrong ;D
[03:52] <Afief_> rausb0: I guess I'll read about those and ssh-askpass as well later right now I'm glad to have it work, manually
[03:52] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: mkinitrd?
[03:52] <Pelo> ubd,     menu> places > search   :  select your home folder for the location and * for a search string,  add extra filter  use   show all hidden files and folders
[03:52] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: perhaps, i dont recall the exact command
[03:52] <hamlet> Kyral: :-)
[03:52] <rausb0> Afief_: alright
[03:52] <Faugn> kryddturken: I don't know if there are some iconv aware telnet
[03:52] <oscar_> could somebody help me?, i just downloaded 7.04 and am trying to setup a RAID0 array, I've never done a raid before, do i need to setup how the hard drives are used via the BIOS or within ubuntu?
[03:53] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: make install just told me to add /boot/linux-2.6.17.14-ubuntu1 to my grub/menu.lst, so I did, and it created an initrd
[03:53] <rausb0> okay, gotta go
[03:53] <rausb0> cu all
[03:53] <Afief_> rausb0,faugn: thanks for your help
[03:53] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: however, the initrd it created is not the same file type as the ones that apt installs
[03:53] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: okay, so its probably part ot that make install target
[03:54] <Juancab> Hi, how can I move the /var folder to a new partition I've made with Gparterd?
[03:54] <retarded> anyone could tell me what are the advantages from aixgl vs xlg ??
[03:54] <ubd> pelo: thanks ml donkey temp ....
[03:54] <oscar_> soz, gtg
[03:54] <tomy-dsd> how do i know my directory of cd drive
[03:54] <flubber> how do you erase an dvd -rw
[03:54] <kryddturken> Faugn, Hm. well I got ???? instead of nothing now :p
[03:54] <tomy-dsd> is it dev/hda
[03:54] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: whenever I build an initrd, I get a weird file type
[03:54] <tomy-dsd> or what
[03:54] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: am grasping here...how do you know that the apt installs are not same type as the ones you created from make install (mkinitrd) ?
[03:54] <kingofproblems> ive installed ubuntu to my hd and it wasked to restart. i hitted yes. but the screen stops with and little orange bar and the ubunto symbol. is this mormal? and i should wait or can i manually restart the machine?
[03:55] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: initrd.img-2.6.17.14-ubuntu1-amd64-k8: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max compression
[03:55] <retarded> king press enter
[03:55] <USMarine> kingofproblems remove quiet
[03:55] <USMarine> and trace the problem
[03:55] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: that's an initrd that apt installed
[03:55] <flubber> does anybody know how to erase an dvd-rw
[03:55] <Pimp1984> Can anyone help with the problem I have?
[03:55] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: hang on, let me look at mine, just for comparison
[03:55] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: and here is the one that mkinitrd made: Linux Compressed ROM File System data, little endian size 5795840 version #2 sorted_dirs CRC 0x17278aa7, edition 0, 4472 blocks, 360 files
[03:55] <USMarine> flubber tried k3b?
[03:55] <flubber> or edit it
[03:55] <Faugn> flubber: use k3b
[03:55] <flubber> no
[03:55] <Pelo> flubber,  I think you can do that in gnomebaker
[03:55] <flubber> ok
[03:56] <benjamin_> does anybody know a pdf-tool which can mark and comment?
[03:56] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: I've installed kernels on other distros, and I've never had this problem before
[03:56] <Juancab>  Hi, how can I move the /var folder to a new partition I've made with Gparterd?
[03:56] <flubber> do i need to download k3b or gnomebaker?
[03:56] <kingofproblems> what you mean usmarine? remove quiet?
[03:56] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: I've even followed a Ubuntu Kernel-Compilation How-To, and those instructions didn't work either
[03:56] <USMarine> kingofproblems edit the boot line in grub
[03:56] <Pelo> Pimp1984,   if you know the name of the package try looking it up in synaptic
[03:56] <Faugn> kryddturken: putty has some option for character translation,maybe you can use that to telnet?
[03:56] <USMarine> and remove the quiet word
[03:56] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: doesnt it normally reside at /boot/  ?
[03:56] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: that's where it is
[03:56] <moDumass> ntfs-3g
[03:56] <kingofproblems> will do usmarine :)
[03:57] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: hang on, let me look at some of my notes..
[03:57] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: ok
[03:57] <kryddturken> Faugn, ah, in the end I am not going to use any program at all... I'm coding something that connects to this server, but I figured I might work this character set issue out in general before trying to work it into my application :) The only time I get the correct data from the server is if I use "charset G0 8859-1" but that screws up everything that I type.
[03:58] <rushfan_> How does one remove all the old kernel versions without removing them one-by-one ?
[03:58] <flubber> thanks
[03:58] <Pelo> rushfan_,  synaptic
[03:58] <USMarine> rushfan_ try synaptic
[03:58] <Pimp1984> Pelo - I can't even get to that stage. I just want to wipe the software RAID setup and start again.
[03:58] <Faugn> kryddturken: ah, so you need to use something like iconv to convert from G0 8859-1 to the charset the user is using
[03:58] <kingofproblems> right.... ubunto launched.... i know i have xp instaled on another partition. how do i access it. so i can rescue some files from it?
[03:58] <Pelo> Pimp1984,   sudo apt-get remove  package name
[03:59] <kryddturken> Faugn, ah, iconv.. *reading manfile*
[03:59] <USMarine> kingofproblems mount the partition
[03:59] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: sorry cant find my notes on that..
[03:59] <Pelo> Pimp1984,  apt-cache search keyword  to find what the package name might be
[03:59] <Faugn> Juancab: you may need to do this using a live CD
[03:59] <USMarine> mkdir xp && mount /dev/HDXN -t vfat/ntfs xp
[03:59] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: it's ok
[03:59] <Faugn> Juancab: not from the system running
[04:00] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: I left the FS types alone in the config, because I've been burned by taking some out before, on previous systems, but I assumed devfs has to be supported by defaults
[04:00] <Faugn> Juancab: boot on the live CD, mount the partitions, move var contents to new partition, edit fstab to mount new partition on old partition /var folder
[04:00] <Juancab> Faugn: I can't make the system run. I did it using the live CD, But I'm not sure how to assign the folder to the new partition I've made
[04:00] <Pimp1984> Pelo - are you assuming that the install went successfully? It didn't. The select and install software bit failed at 6%, and my wifi card wasn't detected.
[04:01] <Faugn> Juancab: you need to edit fstab, did you move the data yet?
[04:01] <Juancab> Faugn: Not yet.
[04:01] <Juancab> Faugn: please tell me what to do first
[04:01] <Faugn> Juancab: move everything in the root of the new partition, but not the var folder itself
[04:01] <Afief_> is there a program I can use to "beautify" my C code?
[04:02] <kingofproblems> usmarine: im sucha noob. how do i get up a comand line?
[04:02] <Seveas> !test
[04:02] <ubotu> Failed.
[04:02] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: you can check the current installed configure file its in /boot/ too  config-2.6.x-386 something, if it has the FS you needed
[04:02] <Pelo> Pimp1984,  I was assuming you were running in recovery mode ,    boot up the live cd and reinstall edgy from scratch , you can also use the live cd to mount your hdd manualy and move /copy/backup important data that might get overwritten by an install
[04:02] <Juancab> Faugn: How do I do that? Mounting the partitions?
[04:02] <evilsherpa> hey all, how would i get a list of the hdds on my machine?
[04:02] <ant30> Juancab I send you a How to do it on #ubuntu-es on Spanish
[04:02] <Faugn> Juancab: what are the partitions name?
[04:03] <Afief_> evilsherpa: ls /dev/hd*
[04:03] <Faugn> evilsherpa: fdisk -l
[04:03] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: what am I looking for? cat /boot/config-2.6.17.14-ubuntu1 | grep devfs
[04:03] <bulmer> evilsherpa: mounted    type  df -h  or mount
[04:03] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: yes thats the one
[04:03] <Faugn> evilsherpa: or cat /proc/partitions
[04:03] <kingofproblems> usmarine: im sucha noob. how do i get up a comand line?
[04:03] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: 'config-2.6.17.14-ubuntu1 | grep devfs' returns nothing
[04:03] <evilsherpa> Faugn. im in a bit of a pickle i think,
[04:04] <Juancab> Faugn: How do I know: /dev/sdaX?
[04:04] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: sorry, make that 'cat config-2.6.17.14-ubuntu1 | grep devfs'
[04:04] <Pimp1984> Pelo - I'm using Feisty and the hard disks were blank before I started because this is a system I just built from scratch.
[04:04] <Faugn> Juancab: fdisk -l
[04:04] <Faugn> Juancab: or cat /proc/partitions :P
[04:04] <Tom47> !WorksForMe > Tom47
[04:04] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: or basically i do   grep devfs  config-*
[04:04] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: nope
[04:04] <evilsherpa> faugn i had write access yesterday, now i had to reconfix xorg.conf but that shouldnt mess with my hdds should it?
[04:05] <TM-Gone> hello?
[04:05] <Pelo> Pimp1984, try asking for help in #ubuntu+1  then , your problem is not somethng I know how to deal with
[04:05] <Faugn> evilsherpa: nope
[04:05] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: that indicates that the current installed one does not support devfs?
[04:05] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: it won't boot
[04:05] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: the kernel panics
[04:06] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: It decompresses the image, and I get a bunch of stuff about how it can't find /lib/modules/$version/modules.dep and how DEVFS is not mounted
[04:06] <kingofproblems> anyone? how do i get up a comand line?
[04:06] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: i forget the steps to revert back to the working kernel..umm..
[04:06] <jrib> !terminal | kingofproblems
[04:06] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: I'm on a working kernel
[04:06] <ubotu> kingofproblems: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:06] <Zenerek> modem question, i am using a winmodem smartlink based,it runs fine in kernel 2.6.15-23 but will not run in 2.6.15-28, after reading the driver docs i found out the driver was meant to run in and only 2.6.15-23, so i used to modual assitant to make a new package for the new kernel, the modem won't work, i think it tells me that tty does not exist
[04:06] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: well, hardly working
[04:06] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: this kernel is dying, and it's not a pretty death
[04:06] <saulus> I have the serious ask to update irssi to the new version, because the 'quote login problem' got solved and I cant connect to my bnc with the irssi 0.8.10 (20051211 0941)
[04:07] <tmgomez> I installed ubuntu server LTS is it commandline only or can you get it to look like ubuntu desktop?
[04:07] <vong_> hello
[04:07] <Pelo> kingofproblems,  menu > applications> accessories > terminal ,   alternatively  alt+F2  terminal
[04:07] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: as long as you saved your important data on separate partition, you can fiddle with the kernel as much..
[04:07] <Juancab> Faugn: what did I with fdisk -1?
[04:07] <enyc> tmgomez: if you installeid from the server CD; you will have 6.06.1 LTS server components...
[04:07] <vong_> alt+f4
[04:07] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: my home directory is on another partition
[04:07] <Pelo> kingofproblems,  make that alt+f2  xterm
[04:07] <Faugn> Juancab: its a L not 1, a small L
[04:07] <Juancab> Faugn: with cat.. I get a list, what do you need to know
[04:07] <essiy> rr
[04:07] <reyn> I'm using one of my screens as a tv, I'd like to be able to switch virtual screens on the pc monitor, without affecting the tv ... and be able to drag windows to the tv ... that possible ?
[04:07] <tmgomez> yes from the cd
[04:08] <enyc> tmgomez: but it stares the same package-repository as all the rest Ubuntu 6.06.1
[04:08] <jrib> saulus: you are more likely to have a meaningful discussion about doing that on bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:08] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: you are okay then, keep hacking at it.. :)
[04:08] <enyc> tmgomez: but it _shares_...
[04:08] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: I experience multiple kernel panics/day on this kernel, so it is necessary that I migrate off it
[04:08] <Juancab> Fuagn: Sorry, I did use an l
[04:08] <saulus> thank you jrib
[04:08] <kingofproblems> ok. i got the command line: its says : mount: only root can do that.
[04:08] <Faugn> Juancab: those are the list of harddrive and partitions, do you know which one is the root partition, and which one is the new one?
[04:08] <enyc> tmgomez: therefore you can "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and install the gnome desktop system
[04:08] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: yes, but I've run out of things to do. I've followed a Ubuntu Kernel install How-To, and that didn't produce a booting kernel
[04:08] <enyc> tmgomez: ?does that make any sense?
[04:09] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: i actually have not done ubuntu or debian like kernels, i would assume its not too different from others that are rpm based
[04:09] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: I've tried everything I know how to do to get this 2.6.17.14-ubuntu1 kernel to boot, and still nothing
[04:09] <Linuxnewbie756> was the feisty release just delayed?
[04:09] <USMarine> kingofproblems hit e key
[04:09] <USMarine> e from edit
[04:09] <tmgomez> enyc pm
[04:09] <Linuxnewbie756> USMarine: nice name
[04:09] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: I've installed many kernels on Mandrake and RedHat systems, I've checked my notes, followed them too, nothing works
[04:09] <USMarine> Linuxnewbie756 say what?
[04:10] <Linuxnewbie756> USMarine: nice name, as a Marine
[04:10] <USMarine> ^_^
[04:10] <kingofproblems> i need to makemyself root. please write me the comandline.
[04:10] <USMarine> kingofproblems what for?
[04:10] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: let me look around for that article i read about something it uses utf-8 vs 8559 ..let me see if thats the cause of your issues
[04:10] <USMarine> it's in the boot menu
[04:10] <kingofproblems> man im such a noob :\
[04:10] <tmgomez> enyc can you PM me plz
[04:10] <USMarine> not in the console
[04:10] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: thanks
[04:10] <tmgomez> I am not registered
[04:10] <Juancab> Faugn: sda1 is the root partition and sda4 is the new one
[04:10] <USMarine> kingofproblems you know where you choose the kernel?
[04:11] <kingofproblems> no i dont
[04:11] <USMarine> boot menu?
[04:11] <kingofproblems> not that eighter. sorry
[04:11] <tmgomez> enyc what is the command here to reg?
[04:11] <USMarine> when you turn on the computer
[04:11] <USMarine> it says
[04:11] <USMarine> grub loading
[04:11] <USMarine> that's the boot menu
[04:11] <enyc> tmgomez: /msg nickserv register
[04:11] <evilsherpa> faugn, what would mess with write access?
[04:11] <evilsherpa> installing any new packages
[04:11] <enyc> tmgomez: im sure it will tell you what you need to know from that
[04:11] <Faugn> Juancab: so go to /mnt, 'mkdir sda1 sda4', then 'mount {/dev/,}sda1' and 'mount {/dev/,}sda4'
[04:11] <evilsherpa> or reinstalling some old ones?
[04:12] <kingofproblems> yes i remember that. grub loading.
[04:12] <Faugn> evilsherpa: write access to what?
[04:12] <Zenerek> does anyone know of a good console based back app?
[04:12] <Faugn> Zenerek: tar :)
[04:12] <USMarine> backup
[04:12] <USMarine> kingofproblems go to the menu
[04:12] <USMarine> and in the line of the kernel
[04:13] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: i have to log off, my bookmarks are corrupted, i did an update last night and have not rebooted yet..
[04:13] <USMarine> hit e key
[04:13] <flubber> does anybody know and good ftp servers to download?
[04:13] <USMarine> remove the quiet word
[04:13] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: ok, bye
[04:13] <USMarine> and boot
[04:13] <evilsherpa> Faugn: My ntfs hdd, which now only has "owner == root" and only owner has write access
[04:13] <reyn> Is there some way to get xinerama to switch virtual desktops on only one of the screens ?
[04:13] <kingofproblems> done. reoobting now
[04:14] <Faugn> evilsherpa: don't you want the owner to be your user?
[04:14] <Faugn> evilsherpa: what did you put in /etc/fstab?
[04:14] <kingofproblems> ok.
[04:14] <Faugn> Juancab: so?
[04:14] <kingofproblems> now what.
[04:15] <Juancab> Faugn: ready they're mounted. In the new one I get a "lost+found" folder
[04:15] <kingofproblems> i need to me root and i need to mount an xp partition
[04:15] <Zenerek> Faugn tar? would that work for backup and recovery?i ask because i tried sbackup before and i did not see a way to make it work in the prompt,course i could have missed something
[04:15] <Faugn> Juancab: ok, so now 'mv -v sda1/var/* sda4/'
[04:16] <USMarine> kingofproblems are you in the boot menu?
[04:16] <eclipse> Hi, i already use Ubuntu, but i want to switch to Xubuntu, do i have to reinstall it again or is there a shortcut ?
[04:16] <USMarine> should say, linux kernel
[04:16] <Faugn> Zenerek: tar can be used to save everything, including rights
[04:16] <USMarine> and windows underneath
[04:16] <Tom47> is "sd" ever used in grub or must it always be "hd"
[04:16] <kingofproblems> yes usmarine
[04:16] <evilsherpa> Faugn: "/dev/sdb5    /media/sdb5 ntfs-3g  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0        0    "
[04:16] <USMarine> eclipse apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:17] <USMarine> kingofproblems edit the first kernel line
[04:17] <Faugn> Zenerek: I don't remember the name of the one I used to use
[04:17] <Juancab> Faugn. Shouldn't it be "mv -v /mnt/sda1/* /mnt/sda4/?
[04:17] <Faugn> Juancab: no, only var contents, no?
[04:18] <kingofproblems> ARGH. IT REBOOTED
[04:18] <kingofproblems> just a sec
[04:18] <roryy> Tom47: it's either hd (hard drive) or fd (floppy drive)
[04:18] <eclipse> USMarine: super thanks
[04:18] <Zenerek> Faugn i'm asking  and looking for console apps in case i loose the gui one day, i already found an irc for the console called bitchx,that way if i'm stuck i can loog for help
[04:19] <Tom47> roryy ty v much
[04:19] <Faugn> Zenerek: irssi is great for irc in a terminal :)
[04:19] <roryy> Tom47: see here http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Naming-convention
[04:19] <gene6482> he everyone i'm trying to get my sound card working, and after much research it appears to be an acpi dsdt issue, anyone know how i would go about fixing this?
[04:19] <kingofproblems> ok again usmarine. im looking "highlighted" root (hd1,1) line
[04:19] <Juancab> Faugn: yes, only var contents, sorry it is:  mv -v /mnt/sda1/var/* /mnt/sda4/
[04:20] <kingofproblems> i should edit that line, right? pressing "e"
[04:20] <USMarine> kingofproblems you had problems with linux booting am i right?
[04:20] <Faugn> Juancab: when it's done, you need to edit sda1/etc/fstab
[04:20] <Aftermath> is there an apache http server package?
[04:20] <kingofproblems> usmarine. im trying to access a xp partition to save some files. that my real problem
[04:20] <USMarine> bah
[04:20] <USMarine> i understood something different
[04:20] <USMarine> boot into linux
[04:21] <USMarine> and mount the partition
[04:21] <kane77> Aftermath, tes
[04:21] <USMarine> mkdir xp && mount -t vfat/ntfs /dev/hdb2 xp
[04:21] <kane77> Aftermath, *yes
[04:21] <kingofproblems> entering linux
[04:21] <Aftermath> what's the package name?
[04:22] <Faugn> evilsherpa: you need to use uid=value and gid=value
[04:22] <kingofproblems> im in.
[04:22] <Faugn> evilsherpa: man ntfs-3g
[04:22] <kingofproblems> how do i mount that partition?
[04:22] <gene6482> he everyone i'm trying to get my sound card working, and after much research it appears to be an acpi dsdt issue, anyone know how i would go about fixing this?
[04:22] <kane77> Aftermath, either apache or apache2
[04:22] <USMarine>  3:21p  (USMarine) mkdir xp && mount -t vfat/ntfs /dev/hdb2 xp
[04:22] <tracy> hey - does anyone know a good website to explain wireless for ubuntu? that is drivers, and how to make it all work? i used to have a great website that i told my boss I'd send to him, but i lost it so Im looking for other ones. he has an HP (thats all I know about his lapop)
[04:22] <Faugn> Aftermath: apache2?
[04:22] <Aftermath> thanks
[04:22] <USMarine> choose vfat or ntfs according to the partition type
[04:23] <kingofproblems> usmarine i have to make myself root first.
[04:23] <kane77> Aftermath, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:23] <kingofproblems> how do i do that.
[04:23] <USMarine> sudo echo ""
[04:23] <Faugn> kingofproblems: sudo -i
[04:23] <USMarine> gotta tidy up the kitchen
[04:23] <USMarine> brb
[04:24] <evilsherpa> im off to bed, il stress about this tomorrow
[04:24] <kingofproblems> i runned this line : mkdir xp && mount /dev/HDXN -t ntfs xp
[04:25] <gene6482> he everyone i'm trying to get my sound card working, and after much research it appears to be an acpi dsdt issue, anyone know how i would go about fixing this?
[04:25] <kingofproblems> says: mkdir: cannot create directory `xp': file existe's
[04:25] <USMarine> mkdir kingofproblems
[04:26] <USMarine> mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb2 kingofproblems
[04:26] <Faugn> gene6482: you tried deactivating using the bios? not using kernel boot parameters
[04:27] <Juancab> Faugn: How do I edit fstab now?
[04:27] <LjL> Juancab: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:27] <kingofproblems> says again: mount: only root can do that
[04:27] <gene6482> Faugn, if i deactivate acpi, it works, but apparently if i edit dsdt and recompile the kernel, acpi should work according to what i read
[04:28] <Faugn> Juancab: you need the UUID of the sda4 partition too, dumpe2fs /dev/sda4|grep UUID
[04:28] <LjL> or "blkid" even
[04:28] <Juancab> Faugn: Do I do that now?
[04:28] <Juancab> Faugn: dumpe2fs /dev/sda4|grep UUID
[04:29] <Juancab> Faugn: Or first: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab?
[04:29] <Faugn> Juancab: yes, first, you need it
[04:29] <kingofproblems> im a disaster
[04:29] <kingofproblems> thought i was root
[04:29] <Faugn> kingofproblems: you're the king!
[04:30] <Juancab> Faugn: first I need what, excuse me, the first one or the second one?
[04:30] <Faugn> Juancab: the UUID stuff
[04:30] <reyn> Is there some way to get xinerama to switch virtual desktops on only one of the screens ?
[04:30] <Faugn> Juancab: to add an entry like: UUID=2bd95e5c-e86b-4335-a95a-94279b1213c5 /var           ext3    defaults        0       1
[04:30] <Faugn> in fstab
[04:30] <oldude67> hi
[04:30] <Tom47> rudyy would i use sd in a grub-install??? eg grub-install /dev/sda1?
[04:31] <eav> hi
[04:31] <oldude67> what room should i go to for a newbie to linux??
[04:32] <kingofproblems> im root now.
[04:32] <kingofproblems> at last.
[04:32] <Tom47> oldude67 here is fine if its ubuntu
[04:32] <idefixx> Tom47: yes in that case u'd install grub to the bootsector on the first part first hd (not the mbr though)
[04:32] <Mefistofeles> somebody knows how to add a user as a sudo user
[04:32] <Kamaria> Hey, does anybody know where I can get a Windows XP Boot CD? I'm trying to fix Windows so I can boot into both Ubuntu and XP. Same problem I've been having since yesterday.
[04:33] <Kamaria> And the only CD I have, locks up.
[04:33] <oldude67> no...i have ubuntu...i need help with installing
[04:33] <Tom47> idefixx ty
[04:33] <Faugn> Mefistofeles: man sudoers and visudo
[04:33] <eav> I need some help here. I tried install f-prot but the program got stuck at a certain point on my apt-get process
[04:33] <Tom47> idefixx what would the command look like for mbr installation?
[04:34] <computer13137> What is it with Ubuntu and its "tempfs" things?  http://www.voyager.unitedfederationofgaming.com/phpsysinfo/
[04:34] <computer13137> Is there some way I can clean that mess up?
[04:34] <idefixx> Tom47: grub-install /dev/sda
[04:35] <Tom47> idefixx ty just wanted to be sure to be sure
[04:35] <idefixx> Tom47: np good luck
[04:35] <oldude67> im new to linux .   need help....what room should i go to.....i use ubuntu...but my question are about linux in general.
[04:35] <kingofproblems> usmarine.
[04:36] <kingofproblems> im root now.
[04:36] <jrib> oldude67: you can ask here
[04:36] <erUSUL> Alumin: ask here
[04:36] <erUSUL> Alumin: sorry, not for you :|
[04:36] <Kamaria> Hey, does anybody know where I can get a Windows XP Boot CD? I'm trying to fix Windows so I can boot into both Ubuntu and XP. Same problem I've been having since yesterday.
[04:36] <oldude67> im trying to install java to run frostwire...like i said im new
[04:36] <erUSUL> !java | oldude67
[04:36] <ubotu> oldude67: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[04:37] <oldude67> ok pause screen
[04:37] <idefixx> Kamaria: whats your problem with booting xp?
[04:38] <oldude67> see you are all talking spanish to me
[04:38] <kingofproblems> i got a sda1 hd that has 1 folder named lost+found......   its here where the xp partition should be, right?
[04:38] <kingofproblems> have i lost all the data?
[04:38] <Juancab> Faung: It's still copying /var. But I hear the fan louder than it is, is this normal?
[04:38] <Kamaria> idefixx: It appears in the GRUB menu, but it hangs when I try to select it at 'Starting up...' with a blinking cursor. I waited 15 minutes but still no results.
[04:38] <gsasha> Feisty won't print for me now... it did work 3 days ago. Please help....
[04:39] <Faugn> Juancab: maybe :P
[04:39] <oldude67> wow i got lost for a moment...lmao
[04:40] <idefixx> Kamaria: ok that means u really need the cd... u could download it :)
[04:40] <oldude67> how do i book mark this room???
[04:40] <oldude67> or people....
[04:40] <Kamaria> idefixx: Know a location?
[04:40] <morbidone> Kamiria: I had the same problem with GRUB, but lilo fixed it
[04:41] <oldude67> cause like i said i need help
[04:41] <gene6482> Faung, any other ideas?
[04:41] <Faugn> gene6482: nope, sorry
[04:41] <sinizzl> hello
[04:41] <sinizzl> i want to switch the language of my fancy ubuntu desktop to french... how do i do that?
[04:41] <idefixx> Kamaria: sry this is not the right place to ask that
[04:41] <Kamaria> morbidone: LILO? Where do I get that?
[04:42] <oldude67> when you get to my age it means drizzle
[04:42] <Cytomax> Hello All
[04:42] <Cytomax> I have Ubuntu 6.10 and a Netgear WG511T (Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC)  I would like to be able to inject packets using the Aircrack-ng program ....  If I install the new madwifi-0.9.3.tar.bz2 drivers will i be able to inject or do i have to patch the drivers with something?
[04:42] <Kamaria> That's the other boot program right?
[04:42] <oldude67> oops bad joke
[04:42] <Faugn> gene6482: patching the dtst is not really easy
[04:42] <morbidone> yea
[04:42] <milaks> Hi. After I installed Kubuntu for AMD64, some really weird thig happens. I have one template structure pointer, and when I test it (*root == NULL) or even assign its value (p = root) program simplu breaks and reports SIGSEGV (invalid memory reference)!? This was not the case when I tried it earlier on 32-bit version of Ubuntu. Could it be that the cause for this is a fact that GCC and kernel/system are 64-bit?
[04:42] <Kamaria> idefixx: No problem.
[04:42] <oldude67> you all are real serious.....good
[04:42] <Kamaria> So how do I install LILO?
[04:42] <gene6482> Faugn, i've read that it's kind of tough, but wasn't sure if anyone had any ideas
[04:43] <morbidone> Kamaria: looking for the site that I got it from
[04:43] <morbidone> had a pretty good tutorial
[04:43] <USMarine> Kamaria apt-get install lilo
[04:43] <Kamaria> Ah I got it
[04:43] <Faugn> milaks: or maybe your code is bugged :P
[04:43] <morbidone> apt-get, i never use lol
[04:43] <Kamaria> I should have thought of that before. XD
[04:43] <morbidone> i always forget it's there
[04:43] <USMarine> aptitude
[04:43] <kingofproblems> usmarine .... im still in troouble
[04:43] <USMarine> same shit
[04:44] <morbidone> that probably would have made my life so much easier
[04:44] <morbidone> yea
[04:44] <USMarine> kingofproblems shoot
[04:44] <morbidone> ubuntu is the first debian based dist i've used tho lol
[04:44] <kingofproblems> im root now. i need to find and mount the partition with xp
[04:44] <milaks> Faugn: no, that part was not changed since tha last change and all it does is testing a *pointer* to NULL.
[04:44] <hendrixski>  /join #ubuntu-ny
[04:44] <morbidone> before this i only used slack years ago :/
[04:44] <Juancab> Faugn: The dumpe2fs is ready
[04:44] <kingofproblems> i got the terminal open
[04:44] <oldude67> you know i cant go anywhere and get a computer to even see a floppy why on earth does linux still require one?
[04:44] <Kamaria> Hmm.
[04:44] <USMarine> kingofproblems what partition is it
[04:44] <Ratattackedme> Hi all
[04:44] <kingofproblems> it is a ntfs one
[04:44] <USMarine> oldude67 huh'
[04:44] <Ratattackedme> King are you trying to access that ntf partition?
[04:44] <USMarine> i use linux and i dont use floppys
[04:45] <Faugn> milaks: root is a double pointer **?
[04:45] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> i don't even have a floppy drive :x
[04:45] <Kamaria> morbidone: What should I do, just in case LILO screws me up?
[04:45] <Faugn> milaks: valgrind is great to debug memory issues
[04:45] <milaks> Faugn: no
[04:45] <USMarine> plug and pray
[04:45] <Ratattackedme> kingofproblems. are you trying to access that ntf partition?
[04:45] <Faugn> milaks: what type?
[04:45] <kingofproblems> i am trying to do so raatt.
[04:45] <morbidone> Kamaria: i don't know, it didn't screw me up so i never made it to an alternate option hehe
[04:45] <Ratattackedme> okay that is easy
[04:45] <Ratattackedme> then
[04:45] <pakart> How to mount cdrom
[04:45] <mgdtgd> hello all
[04:45] <Shafto> !ntfs | kingofproblems
[04:45] <ubotu> kingofproblems: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:46] <Kamaria> In that case I'll go for it.
[04:46] <oldude67> i havent used a floppy in over 3 years...sorry if the army cant get it right...they need to talk to some one in this room
[04:46] <Ratattackedme> kingofproblems it is actually easier then that
[04:46] <Faugn> Juancab: so add an entry to fstab, like I said before
[04:46] <Ratattackedme> king of problems. can I talk to you in pvt.
[04:46] <Kamaria> For some reason I can already see my NTFS drive when I installed Linux in the first place
[04:46] <USMarine> gonna head to the beach
[04:46] <milaks> Faugn: it's template
[04:46] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> lol
[04:46] <kingofproblems> sure rat
[04:46] <morbidone> good luck
[04:46] <USMarine> and get some tan
[04:46] <oldude67> laters
[04:46] <morbidone> I can only get my ntfs drive to mount as read only
[04:46] <pakart> Hello all friends
[04:46] <reyn> Is there some way to get xinerama to switch virtual desktops on only one of the screens ?
[04:46] <Faugn> milaks: hard to help without the code
[04:46] <morbidone> as soon as its backed up im making it ext3 and never using ntfs again
[04:46] <Shafto> !ntfs-3g | kingofproblems
[04:46] <ubotu> kingofproblems: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:47] <morbidone> it's given me nothing but problems
[04:47] <Ratattackedme> kingofproblems, double click my name and then type something to me
[04:47] <kingofproblems> already did ratt
[04:47] <Ratattackedme> one sec
[04:48] <Kamaria> WARNING!
[04:48] <Kamaria>         Your /etc/fstab configuration file gives device UUID=d36f5a8a-8bbc-4d61-9501-b98521898e77 as the root
[04:48] <Kamaria>         filesystem device. This doesn't look to me like an "ordinary" block
[04:48] <Kamaria> device. Either your fstab is broken and you should fix it, or you are
[04:48] <Kamaria> using hardware (such as a RAID array) which this simple configuration
[04:48] <Kamaria> program does not handle.
[04:48] <ratshell> Click this name kingofproblems, then try to text me in here
[04:48] <asooo> who are you?
[04:48] <pakart> How to mount cdrom
[04:48] <Sombo> hi all
[04:48] <Kamaria> That's the error message I got when I tried to run liloconfig
[04:48] <milaks> Faugn: Yes I know, but program is long, let me try to make some test sample...
[04:48] <kingofproblems> done
[04:48] <Shafto> !ntfs | kingofproblems
[04:48] <ubotu> kingofproblems: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:48] <mgdtgd> the other day I tried to install tetex-* packages. aptitude asked for a cd, but i lost mine and thought it would just download the necessary stuff. unfortunatly it segfaulted and left my with a halfway installed tetex-system. I managed to get rid of everything except tetex-base.
[04:48] <asooo> some one help
[04:48] <Shafto> !ntfs-3g | kingofproblems
[04:48] <morbidone> hmm
[04:48] <kingofproblems> ah. im not registered
[04:48] <ubotu> kingofproblems: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:48] <mgdtgd> is there a way to forcefully remove a package?
[04:49] <Shafto> kingofproblems, Why not just follow the guides?
[04:49] <Juancab> Faugn: I'm sorry, I don't have it clear, should I do
[04:49] <Juancab> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:49] <savetheWorld> apt-get remove <name>
[04:49] <Ratattackedme> kingofproblems, and anyone else wnating to know how to mount a ntfs partition. COME TO THE CHANNEL #ubuntuhelp
[04:49] <jmvidalvia> hello everybody: I would like to set a non-GUI-email-client in my server. Any recomendation?
[04:49] <Shafto> apt-get --force remove <package> I think
[04:49] <Ratattackedme> anyone else wnating to know how to mount a ntfs partition. COME TO THE CHANNEL #ubuntuhelp
[04:49] <asooo> Fine,too crazy!
[04:49] <savetheWorld> jmvidalvia: "mutt" see mutt.org
[04:49] <Kamaria> How do I fix an 'fstab'?
[04:49] <Tom47> idefixx i am still scratching my head a bit here ... i "feel sure" that until edgy i was quite happy using hda hdc but now it seems that these are seen to be sda sdb ... did something happen in the last release or two eg in conjunction with intro of uuid approach in fstab??
[04:49] <Faugn> Juancab: for example, use the editor you want, and add line that look like this: UUID=2bd95e5c-e86b-4335-a95a-94279b1213c5 /var           ext3    defaults        0       1
[04:49] <Ratattackedme> king of problems come to #ubuntuhelp
[04:50] <asooo> delete it!
[04:50] <Faugn> Tom47: I have the same problem....
[04:50] <Faugn> seems like SCSI emulation is on....
[04:50] <jmvidalvia> savetheWorld: thank's" I'll check!
[04:50] <savetheWorld> jmvidalvia: mutt has the most powerfull internal mail handling tools I've ever seen, especialy when combined with procmail.
[04:50] <jmvidalvia> savetheWorld: non-GUI?
[04:50] <Faugn> Tom47: so a whole lot of commands are not working anymore: hdparm/grub/smartctl...
[04:51] <Faugn> Tom47: it's a problem with recent kernel images
[04:51] <savetheWorld> jmvidalvia: Note - like most powerfule UNIX tools its som,ewhat obscure, hard to learn and poorly documented (So what else is new.. :-)
[04:51] <savetheWorld> Yes, Non-GUI
[04:51] <savetheWorld>  CLI only
[04:51] <Juancab> Faugn: Ok, but using gksudo and /etc/fstab  ?
[04:51] <asooo> Some body,plz give me a suggestion about IDE
[04:51] <Tom47> Faugn yes its been confusing me for a few days now why new kernels seem to be setting up "wrong" grub menu.lst
[04:51] <jmvidalvia> savetheWorld: thank you very much!
[04:51] <Faugn> Kamaria: the use of UUID is right, it's better than using the devicename, since if your disk move, it will still work
[04:52] <asooo> Bittorrent is too slow,help
[04:52] <Faugn> Juancab: nano sda1/etc/fsta
[04:52] <Tom47> Faugn sheesh ty i have been at a loss as to why something so "clumsy" would be suddenly desirable
[04:53] <Faugn> Tom47: yeah, me too, I found a kernel parameter to explicitly enable SCSI disk emulation, but I can't find the reverse option
[04:53] <Kamaria> Faugn: Then why won't LILO let me use it's configuration?
[04:53] <Juancab> Faugn: And do I copy the string you gave me or the one I get before in the terminar?
[04:53] <Faugn> Kamaria: because lilo is dump :P
[04:54] <Faugn> Kamaria: make a copy of fstab, replace UUID=xxxx by the right device, run LILO, restore fstab might be a solution
[04:54] <Faugn> # /dev/hdd6
[04:54] <Faugn> UUID=81033cd2-14b0-410b-b31a-ab46d8e1daa5 /media/hdd6     ext3    defaults        0       2
[04:54] <Faugn> Kamaria: use the name of the device in the comment
[04:54] <Kamaria> OK.
[04:54] <tarelerulz> I installed moblocker and when I ping ip in my blocklist I get unknow  host how rather then  see 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms
[04:55] <Cytomax> I have Ubuntu 6.10 and a Netgear WG511T (Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC)  I would like to be able to inject packets using the Aircrack-ng program ....  If I install the new madwifi-0.9.3.tar.bz2 drivers will i be able to inject or do i have to patch the drivers with something?
[04:55] <Kamaria> Do I erase everything including the UUID?
[04:55] <Faugn> Juancab: you copy the UUID value dumpe2fs gave you, and you use it for the new fstab entry
[04:55] <mtc> Is the firewall in ubuntu server OFF as default?
[04:55] <Kamaria> Or just make it so it sys UUID= device name
[04:55] <Faugn> mtc: no firewall by default
[04:56] <Faugn> mtc: ah, sorry, server, version, don't know, use iptable -nL, to find out
[04:56] <mtc> Is remote access via SSH off as default?
[04:56] <Faugn> Kamaria: for example, instead of UUID=81033cd2-14b0-410b-b31a-ab46d8e1daa5 /media/hdd6     ext3    defaults        0       2
[04:56] <tarelerulz> Do any of you know why I would get uknow host?
[04:56] <Faugn> Kamaria: /dev/hdd6 /media/hdd6     ext3  defaults        0       2
[04:56] <Kamaria> Gotcha
[04:57] <variant> can somone slap the person who wrote the samba section on ubuntuguide.org? it advises to set 777 permissions on a bunch of folders...
[04:57] <Faugn> mtc: don't know, you need to check /etc/ssh/sshd_config too
[04:58] <morbidone> does it variant?
[04:58] <morbidone> i haven't looked at it lol
[04:58] <Faugn> mtc: if you give me your IP I can run an nmap :P
[04:58] <Faugn> hehehe
[04:58] <[BTF] Chm0d> is there a graphical way to make in .iso in ubuntu?
[04:58] <deserteagle> could anyone help me with an X server problem?
[04:58] <Faugn> [BTF] Chm0d: k3b
[04:58] <deserteagle> Faugn! :D
[04:58] <deserteagle> i'm still stuck :(
[04:59] <Faugn> deserteagle: :P
[04:59] <mtc> I'm attempting a remote install of Ubuntu Server. Need SSH enabled after they loaded the CD. Is this enabled on 22 ad default?
[04:59] <Kamaria> One more thing (this is kinda n00bish sounding) but how do I log in to my root account?
[04:59] <deserteagle> Kamaria: you can't
[04:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> i tried that im using gnome and when i installed k3b and try to run it it hard freezes up i have to hold power button down to reboot
[04:59] <Tom47> [BTF] Chm0d: i think you can do it with k3b
[04:59] <deserteagle> you can only sudo
[04:59] <Faugn> Kamaria: you log has normal, and sudo -i in a terminal
[04:59] <Juancab>  Faugn: I'm sorry to bug you, but should I use ":" as I get the string from the terminal or "=" as in the string you use as example? And should I add: "/var     ext3    defaults      0      1"
[04:59] <rob_> deserteagle, why only sudo ?
[04:59] <Shafto> rob_, Thats just the way ubuntu does it
[04:59] <deserteagle> rob_ root login is disabled for security reasons
[05:00] <Faugn> Juancab: ok, 2 possibilities:
[05:00] <deserteagle> as far as i know
[05:00] <rob_> can root be enabled ?
[05:00] <rob_> (easily)
[05:00] <Tom47> [BTF] Chm0d: not sure why that would be so k3b works fine here doing that job
[05:00] <Faugn> Juancab: /dev/sda4 /var           ext3    defaults        0       1
[05:00] <Kamaria> Hmm
[05:00] <deserteagle> wouldn't know
[05:00] <sysdoc> rob yes
[05:00] <Kamaria> Should I say YES to this?: Use LBA32 for addressing big disks using new BIOS features ?
[05:00] <jrib> rob_: yes, but there's really no reason
[05:00] <Kamaria> I'm setting up Lilo.
[05:00] <variant> Kamaria: read the help for it
[05:00] <Faugn> Juancab: easiest way, or replacing /dev/sda4 by UUID=673d912d-a068-4661-93d5-c7f4c98fe58f
[05:00] <rob_> also, what does %u signify ?
[05:01] <sysdoc> rob_, see the wiki for how to enable root
[05:01] <variant> morbidone: all over the place
[05:01] <Faugn> with the value after UUID= replaced by the one dumpe2fs gave you
[05:01] <deserteagle> why doesn't my x server work anymore? :(
[05:01] <jrib> rob_: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html
[05:01] <deserteagle> all i did was get a new monitor and add a new resolution to xorg.conf
[05:02] <Gaidouri^> hello!
[05:02] <Faugn> deserteagle: I don't remember, did it work before you add the new resolution?
[05:02] <[BTF] Chm0d> Tom47, probably has something to do with me running fiesty it is still in beta :)
[05:02] <Gaidouri^> who could I ask some questions?
[05:02] <Tom47> [BTF] Chm0d: ahh
[05:02] <rob_> can textmate (mac) be used on ubuntu ?
[05:02] <Kamaria> Hmm, maybe I should install LILO in LiveCD
[05:03] <Juancab> Faugn: the number of spaces aren't important, are they?
[05:03] <jrib> Gaidouri^: hi, just ask the channel
[05:03] <Shafto> [BTF] Chm0d, You can do, change directory to where the iso is then just do 'sudo cdrecord something.iso'
[05:03] <deserteagle> Faugn: the monitor? no, x server, yes
[05:03] <Faugn> Juancab: no
[05:03] <Kamaria> Since it pretty much failed
[05:03] <Tom47> deserteagle: take a look in /var/log/Xorg.).log for clues
[05:03] <[BTF] Chm0d> oh
[05:03] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok ty guys
[05:03] <Shafto> [BTF] Chm0d, Hehe np XD
[05:03] <deserteagle> Tom47: just says Hardware does not support that mode
[05:03] <Tom47> ok
[05:03] <jrib> rob_: I don't know but you will find that there are plenty of good text editors available for linux
[05:03] <Shafto> [BTF] Chm0d, Cause k3b is basically a frontend for cdrecord
[05:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> i uninstalled k3b :)
[05:04] <k`ubuntu> how do I install microsoft windos vista
[05:04] <Faugn> deserteagle: what does you xorg.conf looks like? normally, things like supported resolution are auto-detected, unless on old hardware, you hardly need to use modelines anymore
[05:04] <jrib> k`ubuntu: try ##windows
[05:04] <Shafto> k`ubuntu, You mean remove that but keep ubunut?
[05:04] <rob_> jrib, i appreciate all the free text editors out there, but textmate really is special :-)
[05:04] <Faugn> [BTF] Chm0d: mkisofs is the command used by k3b to create an ISO
[05:04] <Avalos> haahaha is harder to iinstall windows then ubuntu
[05:05] <k`ubuntu> jrib, hm :( was a joke, yesterday some guy got so pissed of asking a noob windows question in a linux channel :) but seems too nice guys here
[05:05] <Shafto> Faugn, Sorry got it wrong XD
[05:05] <[BTF] Chm0d> ty Faugn
[05:05] <Faugn> :D
[05:05] <deserteagle> Faugn: AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
[05:05] <LupinZX> anyone experiencing any Feisty beta bugs?
[05:05] <dr_love> hi guys...
[05:05] <Juancab> Faugn: To save it Exit --> Save modified buffer?  I don't see a "save" option
[05:05] <Shafto> LupinZX, #ubuntu+1
[05:05] <tarelerulz> Have any of you use moblock?
[05:05] <dr_love> need help..is this the right place?
[05:06] <variant> LupinZX: no.. and ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:06] <jrib> dr_love: yep, just ask your question
[05:06] <dr_love> was on dapper, then upgraded to edgy...lost the sound ..
[05:06] <jrib> !sound > dr_love    (dr_love, see the private message from ubotu)
[05:06] <dr_love> tried to reinstall xmms
[05:06] <Faugn> deserteagle: and if you remove the change, did you check the detected supported resolution in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:07] <Faugn> Juancab: in nano?
[05:07] <Juancab> Faugn: yes
[05:07] <LupinZX> Shafto, thanks
[05:07] <Faugn> Juancab: Ctrl-X, then nano ask you
[05:07] <Broccoly> is there some recommended external hdd enclosure for ubuntu? something reliable plug-n-play? any recommended chipsets?
[05:08] <jrib> rob_: well what features do you like about textmate that are missing from gedit?
[05:08] <deserteagle> Faugn: i erased xorg.conf completely and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:08] <Juancab> Faugn: It now says: Error writing sda1/etc/fsta: No such file or directory
[05:08] <[BTF] Chm0d> what is a good ftp program for gnome?
[05:09] <jrib> !ftp > [BTF] Chm0d    ([BTF] Chm0d, see the private message from ubotu)
[05:09] <Shafto> [BTF] Chm0d, Filezilla? :)
[05:09] <[BTF] Chm0d> thx
[05:09] <deserteagle> Faugn: i know the graphics card can do 1920x1200 cuz it does it in windows
[05:09] <rob_> jrib, word completion for one
[05:09] <Faugn> Juancab: missing a b
[05:09] <Faugn> Juancab: it's fstab <-
[05:09] <NkZ> Greetings.
[05:10] <[BTF] Chm0d> !torrent
[05:10] <Faugn> deserteagle: so now, X launch, but not with the right resolution, right?
[05:10] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:10] <AlbertoP> hello
[05:10] <Faugn> deserteagle: what do you get in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and what graphic card do you use?
[05:10] <jrib> rob_: http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins has a word completion plugin
[05:10] <rob_> wonderful
[05:10] <Faugn> rob_: VIM!
[05:10] <rob_> Faugn, dont get me wrong, i love vim ;)
[05:10] <deserteagle> Faugn: just read the log again
[05:10] <NkZ> I have a Cannon Digital Camera, I want to know if there is any program to help me pass my pictures to my PC, like the one that comes with the camera, just that the mentioned program is for "Windows" :-S
[05:10] <Faugn> rob_: word/line completion
[05:11] <covOPprometheus> my desktop with it's icons and wallpapers doesn't show up all of the sudden (gnome-panel works fine). what can I do to reload/reinstall it?
[05:11] <jrib> covOPprometheus: is nautilus running?
[05:11] <ferronica> can any one suggest me good
[05:11] <deserteagle> Faugn: i have a GeForce III 128Mb
[05:11] <ferronica> can any one suggest me good Mp3 player for ubuntu 6.10
[05:11] <deserteagle> Faugn: but the log says 1920x1200 not supported by the hardware
[05:11] <covOPprometheus> jrib, thanks! that was it ^^
[05:11] <rob_> ferronica, have you seen xmms ?
[05:12] <deserteagle> Faugn: which is weird cuz it does it in windows
[05:12] <NkZ> Ferronica: Try Audacios.
[05:12] <Faugn> deserteagle: ah, and you use nvidia driver, not nv?
[05:12] <ferronica> right now i am using Rythmbox
[05:12] <NkZ> Audacious*
[05:12] <deserteagle> Faugn: right
[05:12] <jrib> ferronica: what do you find missing from rhythmbox?
[05:12] <ferronica> rob: xmms nope
[05:12] <Faugn> deserteagle: well...
[05:12] <NkZ> I have a Cannon Digital Camera, I want to know if there is any program to help me pass my pictures to my PC, like the one that comes with the camera, just that the mentioned program is for "Windows" :-S
[05:12] <rob_> ferronica, xmms is like your typical winamp
[05:12] <deserteagle> Faugn: lemme try a crappier res :(
[05:12] <Faugn> deserteagle: :P
[05:12] <Juancab> Faugn: again the same error: [ Error writing sda/etc/fstab: No such file or directory ]  Isn't a slash missing before sda?
[05:12] <ferronica> jrib: management of songs not so perfect
[05:13] <Faugn> Juancab: missing a 1 :D
[05:13] <Faugn> lol
[05:13] <Faugn> Juancab: sda1/etc/fstab, or /mnt/sda1/etc/fstab
[05:13] <Faugn> if you not in /mnt
[05:13] <Tom47> NkZ just plug it in and it should work straight up .... make sure when the camera is plugged in though that it has its questions answered as well
[05:13] <jrib> ferronica: try amarok
[05:13] <Juancab> Faugh: oh
[05:14] <ferronica> jrib: It wont auto update playlist when i add some new songs to folder
[05:14] <Shafto> ferronica, Did you set it to?
[05:14] <ferronica> jrib: amarok is for KDE :(
[05:14] <[BTF] Chm0d> this seems like a good find if anyone is interested http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=3664
[05:14] <jrib> ferronica: you can use it gnome
[05:14] <ferronica> Shafto: no
[05:14] <reyn> Is there some way to get xinerama to switch virtual desktops on only one of the screens ?
[05:15] <Shafto> ferronica, Well go to settings then perferences or whatever its in there
[05:15] <Kamaria> Lilo says 'Warning: Partition 3 on /dev/hda is not marked Active.'
[05:15] <ferronica> Shafto: let me check
[05:15] <deserteagle> Faugn: bleh, now it's all like "The requested configuration of display devices is not supported in the hardware"
[05:15] <Faugn> ferronica: you can use amarok in gnome, it will just take longer to load, and out of place!
[05:16] <Vessquire> Is the feisty RC not out yet still?
[05:16] <ferronica> Faugn: amarok is for KDE :(
[05:16] <Faugn> Kamaria: you can probably ignore that
[05:16] <Kamaria> OK
[05:16] <ferronica> Faugn: and is there any application like k3b
[05:16] <Faugn> ferronica: no! it use kde, but you can launch kde applications in gnome, and vice versa
[05:17] <[BTF] Chm0d> ferronica, i use amarok in gnome with np
[05:17] <Juancab> Faugn: Ready, what else now?
[05:17] <Kamaria> Will LILO see my other operating systems?
[05:17] <ferronica> Faugn: Is there any problem, if i use it in ubuntu 6.10
[05:17] <[BTF] Chm0d> ferronica, i also use gnomebaker
[05:17] <Faugn> Juancab: quick prayer, and try to reboot?
[05:17] <Vessquire> Anyone know the date for the feisty RC?
[05:17] <Faugn> Kamaria: no idea
[05:18] <thingy> Vessquire, 19th!
[05:18] <Vessquire> I thought that was actual release
[05:18] <thingy> Vessquire, and thats not the rc but the release!
[05:18] <Vessquire> They're not going to have a release candidate?
[05:18] <AngryElf> I've got two instances of X running on two screens -- firefox won't open on one when it's open on the other, how can I fix that?
[05:18] <truvisionary> how do you make it so the the changes made to gconf actually stay there?
[05:18] <Juancab> Faugn: shouln't I unmount the partitions from /mnt/?
[05:18] <thingy> Vessquire, hmm it should have happened by now if they were going to have one
[05:19] <Faugn> AngryElf: I don't fix there is a way around this
[05:19] <Vessquire> It was supposed to be on the 12th, but I don't see any
[05:19] <Drk_Guy> Hy
[05:19] <AngryElf> Faugn, huh? you dont think?
[05:19] <Drk_Guy> I've found the cause of the error and i am trying to fix it
[05:19] <Faugn> Juancab: you can, but if you reboot, the live system will take care of that
[05:19] <Tom47> Shafto thanks for your observation about a setting to get rhythmbox to watch out for new files ... scratched my head on that one ths arvo too
[05:19] <thingy> AngryElf, you need to setup different firefox profiles
[05:19] <Drk_Guy> I think Nero didn't burn the image that well
[05:19] <Shafto> Tom47, Hehe
[05:19] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, You should use deepburner
[05:20] <Juancab> Faugn: Why I can still see the /var folder in /mnt/sda1?
[05:20] <Drk_Guy> I think the Bash sub-folder of the Casper folder had corrupted files
[05:20] <Faugn> AngryElf: maybe using something like 'DISPLAY=:1 firefox -browser'
[05:20] <Drk_Guy> Shafto, i stick to Nero
[05:20] <Moddy> Hey, Can someone tell me how I can remove nvidia-glx...
[05:20] <Moddy> =/
[05:20] <deserteagle> Faugn: would it make a difference that i went from VGA connector to DVI?
[05:20] <Moddy> Or help me
[05:20] <Moddy> Im stumped
[05:20] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Well have fun getting a nice iso burn
[05:20] <thingy> AngryElf, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_Run_more_than_one_instance_in_Linux
[05:20] <Faugn> Juancab: it's normal, /dev/sda4 will get mounted on it
[05:20] <Appears> I've got a question, is there a similar (or likely ) linux like hart hat linux, which is open source?
[05:20] <Faugn> but it should be empty now, right?
[05:20] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Deepburner is free and isnt big and actually works!
[05:21] <Drk_Guy> Anyway, i'll burn it to a DVD now, not to a Cd
[05:21] <Appears> *hard
[05:21] <Faugn> deserteagle: don't know
[05:21] <Drk_Guy> Ok, i'll try it out, give me it's URL
[05:21] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Or use the ISO recorder power tool, that you can get for free
[05:21] <jeffwheeler> In a default install, are extended attributes enabled on the filesystem?
[05:21] <Tom47> Appears RedHat?  Fedora?
[05:21] <Drk_Guy> ISO recorder power tool, i'm on Windows in this moment
[05:22] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Its for windows
[05:22] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, http://filehippo.com/download_deepburner/
[05:22] <Drk_Guy> Ok, so it is on the MS powertools for Windows page
[05:22] <Drk_Guy> Ty
[05:22] <Vessquire> is there a channel just for feisty?
[05:22] <Filloy> good morning everybody!
[05:22] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, No ill link you that too, you on xp sp2?
[05:22] <jeffwheeler> It doesn't look like extended attributes are enabled, but Beagle suggests it, and I suspect many other things do also.
[05:22] <Drk_Guy> I'm on WinXp Sp1
[05:23] <Drk_Guy> I made a clean install yesterday
[05:23] <Appears> Tom47 are RedHat and Fedora very near to the hard ware? because I want to port a kernel on my pda and now I am searching for a good distro to port.
[05:23] <Tom47> Appears http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT6698549967.html ??
[05:23] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/IsoRecorder/download.asp
[05:23] <Drk_Guy> Ty
[05:23] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, All you have to do with that is install then right click iso and copy image to cd
[05:23] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Probably the easiest one
[05:23] <Drk_Guy> But Windows Xp native burning engine sucks
[05:23] <thingy> Appears, Quick ref guide for embedded linux distros --> http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2760742655.html  a good list of embedded linux distros --> http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=links#embed
[05:24] <Tom47> Appears question is in deep end of my pool
[05:24] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Never had a bad burn of that at all
[05:24] <Faugn> jeffwheeler: check in fstab, you need user_xattr in the option
[05:24] <Drk_Guy> I'm an expert on Windows, so i don't need easy method
[05:24] <jeffwheeler> Faugn: alright, thanks
[05:24] <gaspipe1> greetz
[05:24] <roryy> Vessquire: try #ubuntu+1
[05:24] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, One of them who likes to do the complicated things hey :P
[05:24] <Drk_Guy> But i think it still sucks, starting by the fact it was designed by Roxio
[05:24] <Appears> ah ok tom47 thx :)
[05:24] <Drk_Guy> Roxio are dorks
[05:25] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Soo their software works who cares hey
[05:25] <Drk_Guy> I like complicated things to get to a simple answer
[05:25] <shamrock_hh> folks, what is wrong wiht this grep  'grep -ir "my phrase" *.el'? If I start it in root dir it says that there are no .el files. Which is true. But there are .el files in subdirectories.
[05:25] <Drk_Guy> I dunno like their soft
[05:25] <czr> Drk_Guy, then you'll feel right at home with linux ;-)
[05:25] <xMorgawr> hi all, i have a problem.. how can i run a psx cd from ubuntu? i mean, i have the emulator (fully working with iso) but when i put the cd in, it can't find it... /media/cdrom0 is empty
[05:25] <Drk_Guy> Linux is complicated, that's why i'm trying it
[05:25] <czr> shamrock_hh, -r wants directory names, not filenames
[05:26] <Faugn> shamrock_hh: find -name '*.el' | grep -i "my phrase"
[05:26] <shamrock_hh> doh! Thanks guys. I thought I was going bonkers.
[05:26] <Appears> thx too thingy well now I have something to read :)
[05:26] <czr> Faugn, that's wrong
[05:26] <Drk_Guy> But the Bash core is somewhat risky to handle
[05:26] <Faugn> shamrock_hh: forgtot xargs after |
[05:26] <Faugn> czr: yeah
[05:26] <Faugn> *forgot
[05:26] <czr> find . -name "*.rl" -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -i "my phrase"
[05:26] <foxiness> on xchat i find .xchat2/ with out sounds folder, is there package to add to create for me this folder and sound files?
[05:26] <czr> if you want it to work on ntfs/fat/whatnot
[05:27] <Faugn> shamrock_hh: find -name '*.el' | xargs grep -i "my phrase"
[05:27] <Shafto> didnt even know xchat had sounds lol
[05:27] <xMorgawr> someone can help me please?
[05:27] <Drk_Guy> Xchat is for Linux
[05:27] <czr> s/rl/se/ even :-)
[05:27] <Drk_Guy> Pist your question morgan
[05:27] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Umm avaliable for both yeah
[05:27] <Drk_Guy> Ohhh!!!!
[05:27] <czr> Drk_Guy, it's available for other unixes too, and probably windows.
[05:27] <Drk_Guy> I dunno kew that
[05:27] <Shafto> !ask | xMorgawr
[05:27] <ubotu> xMorgawr: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:27] <POVaddct> Drk_Guy: there is also a windows version, but not officially supported
[05:27] <Drk_Guy> Unix is a basic platform for Os's
[05:27] <xMorgawr> i have a problem.. how can i run a psx cd from ubuntu? i mean, i have the emulator (fully working with iso) but when i put the cd in, it can't find it... /media/cdrom0 is empty
[05:28] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, And the windows costs
[05:28] <xMorgawr> i had already asked...
[05:28] <Drk_Guy> But, still, i like ChatZilla
[05:28] <msikma> Hello everybody. Where can I find the x.org error logs?
[05:28] <POVaddct> Shafto: older windows versions are free
[05:28] <czr> msikma, /var/log/xorg*
[05:28] <Drk_Guy> Windows, i only use it for Playing Most Wanted or Halo
[05:28] <Shafto> POVaddct, Never looked at the older versions
[05:28] <POVaddct> Shafto: i mean xchat for windows of course :)
[05:28] <Faugn> Xorg
[05:28] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, You checked them on wine?
[05:28] <Filloy> I have two LCD monitors with an ATI card, but, as you already know, i cant have Beryl with two screens, so Ill buy another video card. The problem is which one? Should i buy an Nvidia?, if so, what model should I look for? thank you :D
[05:28] <czr> msikma, sry, /var/log/Xorg.0.log* (for first X server)
[05:28] <msikma> Thanks.
[05:28] <Drk_Guy> Shafto, how can i make a direct disc 2 disc copy in DeepBurner
[05:29] <xMorgawr> i have a problem.. how can i run a psx cd from ubuntu? i mean, i have the emulator (fully working with iso) but when i put the cd in, it can't find it... /media/cdrom0 is empty
[05:29] <AngryElf> Faugn, doesn't like the DISPLAY=:1
[05:29] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, I wouldnt try copying your old cd buddy,
[05:29] <Faugn> AngryElf: use the right display
[05:29] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, If thats what you plan to do
[05:29] <Tom47> msikma you can easily view it using System>Administration>System Logs
[05:29] <Drk_Guy> Vine?, an app porter, you actually gave me the idea dude
[05:29] <computer13137>  Hello
[05:29] <Faugn> AngryElf: I don't know your setup, might be :0.1, or something else
[05:29] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Wine
[05:29] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Check them out at appdb.winehq.com
[05:29] <Drk_Guy> Ok, i'll try to recover the image form the Hd
[05:29] <computer13137>  In someone's opinion,which file system is superior?  Ext3 or ReiserFS?
[05:30] <Tom47> sima though maybe on second thoughts from yr q you dont have a gui atm
[05:30] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Yeah, cause you got a bad wirte so wouldnt try copy
[05:30] <xMorgawr> i have a problem.. how can i run a psx cd from ubuntu? i mean, i have the emulator (fully working with iso) but when i put the cd in, it can't find it... /media/cdrom0 is empty
[05:30] <computer13137>  I've been told Ext3 has problems with saved files bloating up and wasting space.
[05:30] <Drk_Guy> Ok, it's Wine, i'll check them out when i install Ubuntu 6.6
[05:30] <Faugn> AngryElf: echo $DISPLAY in a term on the second screen
[05:30] <Juanca> Faugn: Now I get a text interface saying: GDM couln't create a new autorization entry in the disk, possibly there are not space in the disk. Error: ther's no free space in the device (I am Juancab)
[05:30] <Drk_Guy> Ok, you maked me realize things
[05:30] <czr> computer13137, it depends on your work load
[05:30] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Yeah, its pretty good :)
[05:30] <Tom47> msikma though maybe on second thoughts from yr q you dont have a gui atm
[05:30] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Like what?
[05:30] <computer13137>  czr:  Does ext3 have trouble with not actually deleting files?
[05:30] <czr> computer13137, ext3 is boring and safe, nothing exciting, reiser is more complicated and doesn't survive disk errors that well
[05:30] <Drk_Guy> Like the Cd was damaged, copying the cd is copying the error
[05:30] <Drk_Guy> Ty
[05:30] <computer13137>  czr:  Like it just bloats up, and sooner or later, your parttion is full with nothing on it?
[05:30] <Faugn> Juanca: :| where did you have space problem? root partition? or other one?
[05:31] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Hehe :D
[05:31] <idefixx> computer13137: no fs actually deletes files
[05:31] <czr> computer13137, no. you've misunderstood
[05:31] <Filloy> Juanca: the same thing happened to me the other day. I just freed some space and restarted gdm...worked...
[05:31] <xMorgawr> i have a problem.. how can i run a psx cd from ubuntu? i mean, i have the emulator (fully working with iso) but when i put the cd in, it can't find it... /media/cdrom0 is empty
[05:31] <Juanca> Faugn: How can I know I only get the message
[05:31] <computer13137>  czr:  How would you describe the issue?
[05:31] <Drk_Guy> Ok, i'll comeback in 5 minutes Shafto+
[05:31] <Drk_Guy> Please wait
[05:31] <xMorgawr> WHY UBUNTU CAN'T RECOGNIZE MY PSX CDS?????????????????
[05:31] <Faugn> Juanca: ?
[05:31] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Np Ill still be here got a two hour download on the go that i want to finish!
[05:31] <czr> computer13137, not sure which issue :-). files removed in unix have their reserved space freed. on ext3 like on any other
[05:31] <Juanca> Filloy: How can I free some space, I've just made a whole partition for that!
[05:31] <Drk_Guy> At what speed
[05:31] <jrib> !caps | xMorgawr
[05:31] <ubotu> xMorgawr: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:31] <Juanca> Faugn: yes
[05:32] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Steady at 239kb on 2mb connection
[05:32] <xMorgawr> jrib nobody listens to me
[05:32] <computer13137>  czr:  I have reiser on my server right now.  I was copying numerous files to it's data partition at about 50mbps locally, and suddenly the system crashed.  I rebooted it, and it came back, and has been "reading the journal" or something for about 45 minutes.
[05:32] <jrib> !patience | xMorgawr
[05:32] <ubotu> xMorgawr: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:32] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Coming from portugal to uk though
[05:32] <czr> computer13137, maybe you mean wasted space for files less than block size (so you end up wasting some space for small files on average)
[05:32] <Drk_Guy> It is f***** big men
[05:32] <carlos> hello everybody
[05:32] <msikma> I have a question about Xorg. I'm running 6.10 in Parallels, a virtualization program, and want to use 1680x1050 (my native resolution). It seems that even though I edited xorg.conf to support it, it says "not using built-in mode 1680x1050-hsync out of range".
[05:32] <czr> computer13137, well, that's reiser for you
[05:32] <Drk_Guy> I download at 25 Kb/s
[05:32] <manny> como puedo anadir mas servidores al x-chat?
[05:32] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Umm 3.1gb
[05:32] <xMorgawr> jrib i don't care, they could just say "i don't know", i've asked 10 times and they didn't even read me
[05:32] <Juanca> Faugn: I will press Accept, I don't have any other option
[05:32] <LjL> !es | manny
[05:32] <ubotu> manny: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:32] <Kamaria> How do I chainload LILO from GRUB?
[05:32] <Drk_Guy> Wtf????
[05:32] <Faugn> Juanca: ok
[05:32] <xMorgawr> i have a problem.. how can i run a psx cd from ubuntu? i mean, i have the emulator (fully working with iso) but when i put the cd in, it can't find it... /media/cdrom0 is empty
[05:32] <Drk_Guy> That's FUC**** big
[05:32] <computer13137>  czr?  So would I be better off with ext3?
[05:32] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Its a distro of linux i want to try lol
[05:32] <Faugn> Juanca: login from the console
[05:32] <LjL> !language | Drk_Guy
[05:32] <ubotu> Drk_Guy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:32] <jrib> xMorgawr: you want 1116 people to say "I don't know"?  If no one responds, it is likely that no one knows
[05:32] <computer13137>  czr:  Is there any other file system that you prefer over ext3?
[05:33] <Drk_Guy> Maybe Suse
[05:33] <czr> computer13137, depends on what you value, like I said
[05:33] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Sabayomn
[05:33] <Drk_Guy> It comes with more than 100 apps
[05:33] <czr> computer13137, personally? I use ext3 cause I can fix it manually when it breaks
[05:33] <xMorgawr> jrib at least one single person that doesn't ignore me
[05:33] <Drk_Guy> Sabayomn?????
[05:33] <shamrock_hh> Faugn: why the xargs?
[05:33] <czr> computer13137, but I'm not a typical user.
[05:33] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Sabayon*
[05:33] <computer13137>  czr:  I have over 300GB of hard drive space, if I waste some of it I dont' care, but I don't want my old junk piling up like my other linux guy told me.
[05:33] <Faugn> Sabayon! the horror....
[05:33] <SwordGreen> who knows where I can find a Linux software that can display different time difference?
[05:33] <Shafto> Faugn, Umm?
[05:33] <Juanca> Faugn: i will be back, I have to take some air and maybe some strong drink
[05:33] <Faugn> had to patch the installer to even be able to install it
[05:33] <Drk_Guy> Listen to the man
[05:33] <msikma> xMorgawr: you also cannot view the disk itself when using Gnome (or whatever flavor of window manager you use)?
[05:33] <computer13137>  czr:  This is just a web\ftp\irc server.
[05:33] <Shafto> Faugn, Yeah i know you doo
[05:33] <czr> computer13137, maybe you misunderstood "your other linux guy".
[05:34] <czr> the only thing that doesn't get freed in ext2/3 is directories
[05:34] <Shafto> Faugn, You running ubuntu now?
[05:34] <computer13137>  czr:  No... he made his point quite clear, then pointed to some article somewhere on some blog that vaguely said what he told me...
[05:34] <xMorgawr> msikma nope, i can't... when i enter in it with nautilus(or whatever is the name) or from terminal, /media/cdrom0 is empty
[05:34] <Drk_Guy> If you want to recover a file in Windows, use Piriform
[05:34] <Drk_Guy> www.recuva.com
[05:34] <msikma> Let me check myself, xMorgawr...
[05:34] <SwordGreen> who know that software can display different time of different city.
[05:34] <xMorgawr> msikma ok thanks
[05:34] <czr> so if you have a situation where you first create 100k files in a directory, then remove all but one of them, the directory will take up some space (not that much though). once you remove the directory the space will be freed obviously.
[05:34] <Faugn> Shafto: I was running ubuntu (and gentoo before), wanted to give sabayon a try
[05:34] <Shafto> Faugn, What you on now?
[05:35] <computer13137>  czr:  but it's not some major issue?
[05:35] <Shafto> Faugn, Me=Gentoo
[05:35] <czr> computer13137, if you have the url around I'd be interested in seeing it
[05:35] <czr> computer13137, it's not major
[05:35] <Faugn> back on ubuntu
[05:35] <adaptr> SwordGreen: date accepts a timezone, I think
[05:35] <computer13137>  czr:  The server isn't booted up yet... it's still reading the dumb journal.
[05:35] <SwordGreen> please tell me under ubuntu what software can display different time of different city in same time.
[05:35] <Drk_Guy> I'm trying the noobs distro=Ubuntu
[05:35] <mc44> !noob | Drk_Guy
[05:35] <ubotu> Drk_Guy: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:35] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Its a good distro
[05:35] <czr> computer13137, it's probably broken then, journal recovery isn't supposed to take much longer than couple of minutes
[05:35] <LjL> !gworldtime | SwordGreen
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gworldtime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <LjL> !info gworldtime | SwordGreen
[05:35] <ubotu> swordgreen: Package gworldtime does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:35] <computer13137>  czr:  Bash had told me, that if you used your server, and copied stuff to it, then deleted it, eventually you'd be left with less than 10% free space even with no files.
[05:35] <Drk_Guy> Ok,i'll not repeat them
[05:36] <czr> computer13137, normally takes some 3-15 seconds depending on the size/speed of the system
[05:36] <SwordGreen> adptr, thank you, you mean I can use date command to look the time difference?
[05:36] <Shafto> !find worldtime | SwordGreen
[05:36] <computer13137>  czr:  I didn't misunderstand him... maybe he just didn't know what he was talking about.
[05:36] <LjL> !info gworldclock | SwordGreen (sorry)
[05:36] <ubotu> swordgreen: Package/file worldtime does not exist in edgy
[05:36] <ubotu> swordgreen (sorry): gworldclock: Displays time and date in specified time zones. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.4-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 192 kB
[05:36] <roryy> computer13137: that sounds dodgy to me
[05:36] <Faugn> really, I don't want to have to wait to try a new prog, and most app are currunt enough in ubuntu, I just recompile the few I need more up to date
[05:36] <SwordGreen> gworldtime? thank you! let me to try.
[05:36] <Shafto> LjL, Got to it in the end :D
[05:36] <LjL> SwordGreen: gworldclock is the name
[05:36] <computer13137>  czr:  I guess I'll just reformat and put ext3 on.  I reformatted three times yesterday...what's one more for the team, right?
[05:36] <czr> computer13137, 1) I don't know who/what "bash" is (other than the shell), 2) I already answered your question
[05:36] <computer13137>  :P
[05:36] <mc44> LjL: third time :)
[05:36] <computer13137>  czr: Sorry, bash is my other linux guy.
[05:36] <computer13137>  :P:
[05:37] <roryy> computer13137: the only issue, which doesn't apply to server systems, is the 'Trash' folder (similar to Windows 'Recycle Bin')
[05:37] <computer13137>  Ah
[05:37] <msikma> xMorgawr: indeed, it seems that /media/cdrom0 is empty.
[05:37] <LjL> mc44: next time i'll explore that very much talked about new feature known as copy&paste
[05:37] <SwordGreen> thank you LjL, Now I google it.
[05:37] <Drk_Guy> D'oh men, removing a partition really erases all the data, this sucks
[05:37] <LjL> SwordGreen: uh?
[05:37] <mc44> LjL: doesnt work in linux, didnt anyone tell you? :p
[05:37] <czr> put and yank for the win
[05:37] <LjL> SwordGreen: why google it? it's a package. you just type "sudo apt-get install gworldclock" (or the equivalent in Synaptic), if you have Universe enabled (if not, enable it)
[05:38] <xMorgawr> msikma exactly... using pcsx(the emulator) i can run the .iso of those games, but i can't run them from cdrom.. and even if i wanted to make an iso, the cdrom drive is empty.. how in heaven am i supposed to play them?
[05:38] <Drk_Guy> I'll try MW on the Wine porter when i install Linux, wait for results later
[05:38] <LjL> mc44: actually, it works *too much*. the two clipboards get me just so confused
[05:38] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Well keep you windows install, then mount your nfts into ubuntu copy everything you need ovr than you can delete windows if you want
[05:38] <SwordGreen> ok, I know, now I will install it.
[05:38] <matason> Any tips on how to get a DVD to play with VLC?
[05:38] <LjL> !dvd > matason    (matason, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:38] <Shafto> matason, File open disc?
[05:38] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Did you read that ^^
[05:39] <Drk_Guy> no, i'll keep it because Mom loves it
[05:39] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, She can soon love ubuntu too :P
[05:39] <SwordGreen> thank you verymuch LjL!
[05:39] <Drk_Guy> Maybe
[05:39] <locolbd> Can any tell me how i can get beryl and other programs to load when ubuntu starts up
[05:39] <Drk_Guy> I'll teach it to her
[05:39] <LjL> !startup > locolbd    (locolbd, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:39] <LjL> locolbd: but about beryl specifically, i'd ask in #ubuntu-effects
[05:39] <msikma> xMorgawr: ah
[05:39] <Drk_Guy> Ok, i'm off for (re)downloading Ubuntu
[05:39] <msikma> xMorgawr: try typing "mount /media/cdrom0"
[05:39] <Drk_Guy> Ciao!!!!
[05:39] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Okay cya soon
[05:39] <xMorgawr> msikma ok
[05:40] <matason> Shafto: With the default settings that's not working, do I need to tick things like stream output or caching?
[05:40] <Shafto> matason, I was being sarcastic buddy dont use vlc, you tried maybe mplayer?
[05:40] <xMorgawr> msikma WOW it works! :D thanks a lot mate
[05:40] <Shafto> matason, I mean that I dont use vlc in that
[05:40] <msikma> xMorgawr: is there a PSX emulator package in the default repos? I want to try it myself too now :)
[05:40] <matason> Shafto: Ah oke :) thanks
[05:40] <msikma> xMorgawr: glad to hear that it works for you too
[05:40] <Syke_> How do I search with google some strings, which might contain google-specific characters, like + - *
[05:40] <locolbd> yeah thanks
[05:40] <msikma> I have no idea why it isn't mounted by default.
[05:40] <mc44> matason: have you installed libdvdcss2?
[05:41] <xMorgawr> msikma yeah there is ;) it's called pcsx, it's really easy to install and use
[05:41] <LjL> !info pcsx > msikma
[05:41] <matason> mc44: I'll check, thanks
[05:41] <Drk_Guy> Shafto, i need help
[05:41] <msikma> Thanks.
[05:41] <xMorgawr> msikma going to play my games now, thanks and bye
[05:41] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Whats up? Thought you was just downloading
[05:41] <msikma> bye
[05:41] <Drk_Guy> What version should i download, Strable or Beta
[05:41] <msikma> have fun
[05:41] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, For now id say stable
[05:41] <Drk_Guy> 6.10 or 7.05
[05:41] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, 6.10
[05:42] <mc44> there is no 7.05 in anycase :)
[05:42] <mc44> or at least, I hope there wont be
[05:42] <Drk_Guy> Ok, maybe 6.10 because i am a n***
[05:42] <LjL> Drk_Guy: if one is called "stable" and the other is "beta", there's probably a reason ;)
[05:42] <SwordGreen> gworldclock is very nice. ;) thank you all!
[05:42] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, You can update to the next release should be out between 19th and 18th of april
[05:42] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, 28th*
[05:42] <Drk_Guy> But i like Betas, for some odd reason i always try every Beta i see
[05:42] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, I wouldnt advse
[05:42] <DarkSpirit> d
[05:42] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Not for someone new to it all, just use the stable
[05:43] <Drk_Guy> Shafto, give me your e-mail in a pm so i can send you a Joost (Beta) invitation
[05:43] <LjL> Drk_Guy: if you like to live on the edge, nobody's stopping you. Feisty's now relatively mature, besides. but still, you need to keep in mind that everything might suddenly stop working - and in that case, you'll have to fix it
[05:43] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, You registered on here though?
[05:43] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Otherwise you'll never get my pm
[05:43] <Drk_Guy> Feisty, i prefer to call it Ubuntu
[05:43] <Ginja_Ninja> hello. Is it possible to assign a sound card to a specific x-session
[05:43] <variant> Drk_Guy: the feisty version is only beta in name at the moomment.. although there are allways special cases of hardware issues of course. there isin't much reason not to use it already
[05:43] <Drk_Guy> I've registered here
[05:44] <Drk_Guy> Ok then, i'll use 6.10
[05:44] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, There i sent you it
[05:44] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, You get?
[05:44] <LjL> Drk_Guy?! Feisty Fawn is the nickname of version 7.04 of Ubuntu, just like Edgy Eft is the nickname of 6.10
[05:44] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Hehe :D I wanted a joost account
[05:44] <Drk_Guy> look there
[05:44] <Drk_Guy> But i prefer Ubuntu Beta
[05:45] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Be good and get egy
[05:45] <Drk_Guy> Joost=Iptv for free
[05:45] <Shafto> edgy*
[05:45] <Arianna> D-LINK Airplus DWL-G630 PCIMA card... fresh install of Xubuntu 7.04 Beta... Network manager, configure it, says configuring interface and crashes... Card flashes and seems to be totally recognised during the configuration, and then when it crashes it switches off.
[05:45] <variant> Drk_Guy: it will still be called feisty when it's not beta
[05:45] <Drk_Guy> Ok
[05:45] <ompaul> Arianna, have a chat with #ubuntu+1 thanks
[05:45] <Drk_Guy> But i wll still call it Ubuntu 7
[05:45] <Shafto> Arianna, try #xubuntu
[05:45] <variant> Arianna: #ubuntu+1
[05:45] <LjL> and it was called feisty when it wasn't yet beta ;)
[05:45] <ompaul> Drk_Guy, and then what will you do with there is 7.10 ?
[05:45] <Drk_Guy> Maybe Shafto can try Jost into the Wine porter
[05:45] <LjL> Drk_Guy: "Ubuntu 7"? you realize there's going to be *two* versions that start with 7, right? :)
[05:45] <Arianna> thanks
[05:46] <mc44> technically it wont be called feisty when its release. But Im not getting into that argument :)
[05:46] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Ill have a look on their appdb
[05:46] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Unless it uses activex?
[05:46] <Drk_Guy> Ok, i'll call it the version that is released
[05:46] <variant> Arianna: #ubuntu+1 for any developemnt version issues
[05:46] <Drk_Guy> It is an independant prog, i don't think so
[05:46] <variant> Drk_Guy: just call it feisty like everyone else
[05:46] <LjL> Drk_Guy: that is, Ubuntu 7.04, codename Feisty Fawn - yes
[05:46] <Drk_Guy> Ok!!!!
[05:46] <Drk_Guy> I'll call it Feisty
[05:47] <Drk_Guy> But it looks like Gay
[05:47] <locolbd> hey can someone send me the website that guides me to add programs to my ubuntu startup please
[05:47] <variant> lol
[05:47] <Arianna> variant: thanks but you are the third to say that since my message ;)
[05:47] <variant> Drk_Guy: what?
[05:47] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Nopevoted as garbage on the wine appdb
[05:47] <LjL> Drk_Guy: comment totally out of place.
[05:47] <mc44> !ohmy | Drk_Guy
[05:47] <ubotu> Drk_Guy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:47] <Drk_Guy> In my opinion Feisty is like that
[05:47] <LjL> !startup > locolbd    (locolbd, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:47] <Drk_Guy> Ok mmc44
[05:48] <mc44> Drk_Guy: this is not a channel for your opions on feisty, its for ubuntu support
[05:48] <variant> Drk_Guy: some people would find your comment to be highly offensive. you should really watch what you say
[05:48] <Yo_Daddeh> so hows fiesty looking?? I haven't had the nerve to download it yet
[05:48] <LjL> Yo_Daddeh: #ubuntu+1 will tell you
[05:48] <lufis> Yo_Daddeh: I've been using it since herd 5 (quite a while ago), it's very stable
[05:48] <Drk_Guy> Ok, don't flame me that much, i know i deserved it, but not that much
[05:48] <matthew_> how do you "format" a drive?
[05:48] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, Haha abused by ubotu
[05:48] <Shafto> Drk_Guy, XD
[05:48] <LjL> matthew_: man mkfs
[05:49] <Yo_Daddeh> lufis: do you think that I could use it on a virtual machiene?
[05:49] <Drk_Guy> The Gnone has Gparted
[05:49] <variant> matthew_: choose a file system first.. then its mkfs.thatfilesystem /dev/drivetoformat
[05:49] <Drk_Guy> It will help you
[05:49] <Drk_Guy> Look, now i am not that N***
[05:49] <variant> matthew_: you can also use gparted like somone just mentioned
[05:49] <lufis> Yo_Daddeh: probably, although i must include the obligatory "it *is* beta"
[05:49] <Drk_Guy> Hey, it's me Variant
[05:49] <matthew_> mine is not that type of drive.  it is an external USB drive.
[05:49] <Drk_Guy> I said that
[05:49] <matthew_> can I do mkfs /media/whatever?
[05:50] <LjL> Drk_Guy: we all saw that you did.
[05:50] <Drk_Guy> But Kubuntu does not have it (I think)
[05:50] <Yo_Daddeh> lufis: no kiddin :) thats why I inquired about it before I go and redo my whole partition
[05:50] <variant> matthew_: no, you would not have the drive mounted first
[05:50] <maxxism> hey all.  I am having some problems with the newest NVIDIA drivers.  not the ones from the repo's.  I did a manual install of the 9755 drivers.  They work after they are installed.  however.  when I reboot.  it seems the kernel cant find the modules.  and thus GDM isnt starting.  so I have to recompile and run startx manuallly.  any ideas of what i may be missing?
[05:50] <matthew_> variant: it is mounted
[05:50] <mc44> Yo_Daddeh: if you are worried, dont install. Simple :)
[05:50] <variant> matthew_: /media/whatever is the mountpoint.. it can't be mounted before it's formatted
[05:50] <LjL> matthew_: no. 1) you need to specify a device (like /dev/something) not a mountpoint (like /media/something)   2) you need to specify some more option, such as at least the filesystem type
[05:50] <Shafto> maxxism, Why over complicate and make from scratcg?
[05:50] <Drk_Guy> I connect my cellphonr to Ubuntu and it is treated like anormal Usb drive and it is auto-mounted
[05:50] <variant> matthew_: you will have to unmount it if you want to reformat it
[05:50] <Yo_Daddeh> mc44: I like to gamble abit with it I just wanted to hear what others thought of it so far
[05:50] <Drk_Guy> (That's my tgt)
[05:50] <matthew_> how do i know which device it is in?
[05:51] <Yo_Daddeh> mc44: user feedback can be your friend
[05:51] <maxxism> Shafto I havent find pre made binaries of them.
[05:51] <Shafto> maxxism, Follow http://albertomilone.com/instructions.html
[05:51] <Drk_Guy> The icon of the drive has an Usb icon
[05:51] <variant> matthew_: you know what device you want to format right?
[05:51] <Shafto> maxxism, That has all the latest drivers in a repo,
[05:51] <LjL> matthew_: if right now it's mounted, type "mount" and you'll see. you don't want to format a device *while* it's mounted, though, for sure.
[05:51] <variant> matthew_: is it a new drive or something?
[05:51] <maxxism> Shafto but albertomilone.com arent the newest.
[05:51] <usher_> I'm having some strange problem, it's happened yesterday and the day before and it will probably happen again in a bit - my monitor will go into off-mode.. while I'm using the PC? is that a Feisty bug ?
[05:51] <Shafto> maxxism, 9755?
[05:51] <matthew_> variant:  it is mounted automatically.  i don't know what device it is in.
[05:51] <mc44> usher_: #ubuntu+! for feisty support
[05:51] <Shafto> maxxism, So there not never noticed that before
[05:52] <mc44> usher_: #ubuntu+1 rather
[05:52] <variant> matthew_: as LjL just said, type mount will tell you the device
[05:52] <Shafto> maxxism, So pal me being stupid!
[05:52] <maxxism> Shafto they werent the other day when I tried.  they were 9000 series but not
[05:52] <matthew_> think i found out though thanks
[05:52] <LjL> maxxism: well, surely the very newest drivers have such astonishing features that it's worth building every bit of them manually. seriously, they just support some more cards..
[05:52] <usher_> mc44: Thank you
[05:52] <Woody_> hello, can I install Windows Live Messenger on Ubuntu?
[05:52] <variant> usher_: if it is, then you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <variant> usher_: that is the feisty support channel
[05:52] <LjL> Woody_: no, you can use the MSN network though, via Gaim or AMSN (or others)
[05:52] <maxxism> LjL  I found the 9755 drivers work better with Beryl
[05:52] <Yo_Daddeh> woody_: inquire about wine
[05:52] <usher_> variant: Cool, thanks man
[05:52] <variant> Woody_: perhaps under wine, check the wineappdb
[05:52] <Shafto> maxxism, Yeah LjL is right the ones from there worked perfectly for me in everything
[05:52] <LjL> !msn > Woody_    (Woody_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:53] <Shafto> Woody_, No
[05:53] <Raiders32> matthew_:  if the drive is mounted type 'cat /etc/mtab'  will also tell what is mounted on your system
[05:53] <Shafto> Woody_, Not even under wine i dont think
[05:53] <Woody_> thanks a lot people! you are amazing!
[05:53] <Drk_Guy> I use Opensource software
[05:53] <Drk_Guy> I love OpenSourcde
[05:53] <flubber> when is the expected date for releasing 7.04 stable?
[05:53] <LjL> !offtopic
[05:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:53] <LjL> !feisty > flubber    (flubber, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:53] <Woody_> How many Viruses is there on Ubuntu? is there any?
[05:53] <mc44> flubber: see #ubuntu+1
[05:54] <Tom47> flubber april 19
[05:54] <LjL> Woody_: very few in the wild
[05:54] <variant> Woody_: none that you should worry about
[05:54] <Drk_Guy> Ubuntu is not that protected, that's why hackers are not that interested in making viruses for
[05:54] <Yo_Daddeh> !feisty > Yo_Daddeh
[05:54] <Shafto> Woody_, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5264 is proof that WLM doesnt work, why not ry gaim or amsn?
[05:54] <LjL> !virus > Woody_    (Woody_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:54] <Drk_Guy> it
[05:54] <Woody_> LjL: do i have to get an antivirus? or no need?
[05:54] <mc44> Drk_Guy: are you trying to troll?
[05:54] <Drk_Guy> No need Woody
[05:54] <LjL> Woody_, i could bet that most people here aren't using an antvirus. i'm not.
[05:54] <Shafto> Woody_, Ermm i dont think most people here will have one
[05:54] <variant> Woody_: there are other attack vectors that affect gnu/linux and other operating systems other than viruses
[05:54] <Drk_Guy> Trolling, that's not me man
[05:55] <maxxism> no antivirus here.
[05:55] <Appears> I dont have one
[05:55] <Drk_Guy> I'm just trying to help out
[05:55] <Woody_> cool
[05:55] <shooters> no antivirus either...
[05:55] <Shafto> Firewall maybe Woody_ but thats up to you
[05:55] <lufis> Woody_: There's no need for antivirus software for linux, unless you're transferring files to a Windows system that you don't want to get infected
[05:55] <variant> Woody_: you don't. a firewall is reccomended though. try firestarter
[05:55] <maxxism> dont even have one on my mac.
[05:55] <Drk_Guy> Linux saves so much resources
[05:55] <Spee_Der> Good afternoon Drk_Guy.
[05:55] <Drk_Guy> Hy
[05:55] <Yggdrasil> howdy, can somone point me in the right direction for a good how to install ubuntu on an old imac ?
[05:55] <Drk_Guy> Spee_Der
[05:55] <Shafto> Woody_, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5264 is proof that WLM doesnt work, why not try gaim or amsn?
[05:55] <Shafto> Woody_, Incase you didnt see that :)
[05:56] <Woody_> Shafto:  I didn't like GAIM ill try aMSN. thanks a lot
[05:56] <Appears> An the box stood install windows vista or better..so I installed Linux :)
[05:56] <Shafto> Woody_, tbh i hate amsn :P
[05:56] <Drk_Guy> Variant, is FireStarter the Linux native firewall
[05:56] <Woody_> Shafto:  lol
[05:56] <Drk_Guy> aMSN is OpenSource
[05:56] <Shafto> Woody_, Cant really rcommend much else
[05:56] <variant> Drk_Guy: no.. no "the" it is an interface to a popular one though.. called iptables
[05:56] <Drk_Guy> But it is C***
[05:56] <Shafto> Woody_, Maybe konverstaion i think, the kde one
[05:56] <Drk_Guy> Ty Variant
[05:56] <Woody_> why doesn't ubuntu automatically installs the nVidia drivers? why should i do them manually?
[05:57] <Shafto> Woody_, Or kopete
[05:57] <Shafto> Woody_, Cant remeber
[05:57] <Drk_Guy> Nvidia has legacy drivers
[05:57] <variant> Woody_: because it is proprietry software
[05:57] <Drk_Guy> For Ubuntu
[05:57] <Woody_> ah okay thanks Shafto
[05:57] <salty> how do i add jackd to my realtime group...command-line?
[05:57] <thingy> If you have a copy of Windows, then use something like vmware player/server and setup a guest machine on which you can use stuff like live messenger/icq/yahoo messenger et al. So much simpler than having to fuss around with Wine.
[05:57] <Shafto> Woody_, It installs open source ones
[05:57] <Shafto> Woody_, Its very easy to add repos to get the official drivers
[05:57] <msikma> Can someone tell me how to make an image file of a cdrom? I tried using dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/mydisk.bin, but that didn't work.
[05:57] <Vodalu1> morning
[05:57] <LjL> Woody_: it does install *some* NVidia drivers automatically. specifically, it installs the open source ones. unfortunately, for 3D you need other ones, i.e. the proprietary ones from Nvidia.
[05:57] <Woody_> Shafto: yes, but the effects do not work with the opensource drivers i think
[05:58] <variant> LjL: not for too much longer hopefully :)
[05:58] <Shafto> Woody_, So then you install the official ones, not hard :)
[05:58] <Vodalu1> Anyone know if the setup of logitech mice is any different in 7.04
[05:58] <Drk_Guy> Go to nvodoa.com
[05:58] <Drk_Guy> Typo here
[05:58] <usher_> LjL: I think I'm having video card issues - how do I get the Official NVIDIA drivers?
[05:58] <Drk_Guy> It is nvidia.com
[05:58] <Shafto> Woody_, you running ubuntu now?
[05:58] <Drk_Guy> there are drivers for Linux there
[05:58] <LjL> Woody_: there are a couple of issue with supplying them as default: for instance, they can only be fixed by Nvidia if something is found wrong with them, the Ubuntu developers can't do anything.
[05:58] <Lunar_Lamp> !schedule
[05:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[05:58] <Woody_> Shafto: no, i didnt install it yet
[05:58] <variant> Drk_Guy: that is not the reccomeneded way to install them on ubuntu
[05:58] <LjL> usher_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ; sudo nvidia-xconfig enable  IIRC
[05:59] <Woody_> I am hating Windows more and more
[05:59] <LjL> !nvidia > usher_    (usher_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:59] <Tom47> Vodalu1: try #unbuntu+1
[05:59] <Shafto> Woody_, I like http://albertomilone.com/instructions.html even though they arent the complete latest
[05:59] <Drk_Guy> Then wich one is?
[05:59] <Vodalu1> thanks
[05:59] <Jinxed> where do i put vlc skin files?
[05:59] <Shafto> Woody_, But doesnt matter they will run everything you ever
[05:59] <salty> how do i add jackd to my realtime group...command-line?
[05:59] <Cupid> Talking about nvidia drivers, How can I remove nvidia-glx?
[05:59] <Shafto> Woody_, But doesnt matter they will run everything you ever need*
[05:59] <Cupid> It tells me that It would have to change a libGL file
[05:59] <Woody_> okay
[05:59] <Cupid> And that its not allowed too
[05:59] <Drk_Guy> I need to restart Ffox, Ciao!!!!
[05:59] <variant> Drk_Guy:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[06:00] <Spee_Der> Cupid, try using symatic to fix things for your setup.
[06:00] <matthew_> is it possible to give my user permission to unmount only certain drives?
[06:00] <Spee_Der> Cupid, synaptic that is.
[06:00] <Woody_> Beryl is AWESOME! for Vista to run Beryl it might need a Pentium 10
[06:00] <variant> matthew_: yes, you can set "users" in fstab for that particular drive
[06:00] <Cupid> Spee_Der synaptic gets the same error :(
[06:00] <Enselic`> I have an ftp server running, I can connect to it with 'ftp 192.168.1.3', but the connectino is refused when I try with fFTP or FileZilla. Anyone know why?
[06:01] <Shafto> Woody_, Well linux is the only os to provide full 3d desktop thanks to beryl
[06:01] <Shafto> Woody_, Others only run 2.5
[06:01] <Spee_Der> Cupid, in synaptic, there is an option to fix broken packages and it works well.
[06:01] <Woody_> Shafto: yes sir
[06:02] <Shafto> Woody_, Thanks to some magazine i read that boasted about ubuntu ALOT!
[06:02] <Woody_> Why is Linux so #@$%#$% FASTTT!!!!!
[06:02] <Xanthus35> Can someone help me with ubuntu 7.04 and grub
[06:02] <Shafto> Woody_, Just is? :S
[06:02] <Shafto> :P
[06:03] <Spee_Der> Cupid, in synaptic click on Edit in the top menu and then fix broken packages.
[06:03] <Cupid> Spee_Der I'll try that...
[06:03] <Xanthus35> Can someone help me with ubuntu 7.04 and grub
[06:03] <Shafto> Xanthus35, Jsut say the problem exactly
[06:04] <cables> !repeat | Xanthus35
[06:04] <ubotu> Xanthus35: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:04] <Yggdrasil> howdy, can somone point me in the right direction for a good how to install ubuntu on an old imac purple?
[06:04] <cables> Xanthus35: you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:04] <meanfish> I think the primaries reasons for it performing well are:  1.)  libraries are modular and thus programs tend not to do double work and 2.) people who write code for open source applications don't want to look like poseurs and try to do a good job.
[06:04] <vinces1979>  Xanthus35: what are you trying to do with grub?
[06:04] <Xanthus35> ok when I installed 7.04 it said grub installed but when I reboot it directly into xp and grub does not come up
[06:05] <Tom47> Xanthus35: try #ubuntu+1
[06:06] <pokoko> why isn't there #ubuntu+n ?
[06:06] <pancho> plop
[06:06] <pancho> huh ?
[06:06] <Shafto> ubuntu+n?
[06:06] <pancho> what`s that ?
[06:06] <mc44> pokoko: because there is only ever one development release
[06:06] <ompaul> there is +1
[06:06] <Tom47> its ubuntu for chickens
[06:06] <pancho> oh
[06:06] <pokoko> Shafto, yeah the "never will release" value of n.
[06:06] <pancho> i see
[06:06] <pokoko> that should take care of all the wishlist etc...
[06:06] <pancho> oh my
[06:07] <sontek> Hey, i'm having trouble with grub, I have 6 disks (hda, hdb, hdc, hdd, sda, sdb)    sda is my OS disk (boot disk)  and after a clean installation its giving my grub 15 error (which means can't find files)  so I boot up into the livecd and when I do grub prompt it shows sda is hd3    but when I remove menu.lst and boot up (to get grub.conf on boot) it thinks sda is hd0.
[06:07] <pancho> XD
[06:07] <sontek> anyone know whats going on? :P
[06:07] <pancho> when are they gonna release the studios version ?
[06:07] <pokoko> and then put the wishlist etc.. in the release n-1
[06:07] <pokoko> could also be bug fix, rfe etc..
[06:07] <granger> anybody know how to get the ndiswrapper to actually work on 6.10?
[06:08] <Woody_> how much space is needed to install Ubuntu?
[06:08] <Woody_> 7.04
[06:08] <meanfish> granger:  I had to install an updated kernel module to get it working after upgrading to edgy, I think.
[06:08] <morbidone> i think it was 700mb woody_
[06:08] <salty> woody...it depends on the type of install
[06:08] <sontek> Woody_: I'm using up 7.8gb with 7.04 and thats with every application you'll ever use installed :P
[06:08] <pancho> i actuallt installed ubuntu on my 4gb partition
[06:08] <morbidone> for the upgrade
[06:08] <pancho> i actually installed ubuntu on my 4gb partition
[06:08] <ompaul> Woody_, ehh try 3gigs and a half for ram -
[06:08] <Woody_> wow amazing
[06:09] <Woody_> i have like 9GB of space
[06:09] <Woody_> im going to make it a partition and install Ubuntu on it. is that ok?
[06:09] <ompaul> Woody_, but frankly I give hundreds of gigs to isntalls
[06:09] <TheFettMan> I know this is #ubuntu, but ##windows guys are talking about cars.. :\  can anyone possibly help me w/ chdsk errors?
[06:09] <pancho> i will soon get a better HD
[06:09] <salty> i installed the command-line version and use fluxbox on 300mb
[06:09] <meanfish> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/59983
[06:09] <meanfish> for information on ndiswrapper in edgy
[06:09] <mc44> TheFettMan: no windows support in here sorry
[06:09] <ompaul> Woody_, better to be dangerously dedicated to it and learn lots
[06:09] <Woody_> i am getting an external hard drive this week, maybe ill wait
[06:09] <jsl3> hi2all
[06:09] <pancho> lolz
[06:10] <pancho> ill get an internaql
[06:10] <Woody_> because im using a laptop
[06:10] <Spee_Der> Good afternoon jsl3
[06:10] <TheFettMan> mc44: where can I go the ##windows is incompetent.. and I think the error might have to do w/ ntfsclone or dd
[06:10] <jsl3> Spee_Der, helo
[06:10] <salty> laptop here too Woody
[06:10] <pancho> can you install it on an external HD ??
[06:10] <sontek> TheFettMan: efnet #windows
[06:10] <salty> yes pancho
[06:10] <Woody_> yes we can pancho
[06:11] <pancho> nice
[06:11] <Woody_> ill make my external harddisk dedicated to UBUNTU
[06:11] <Woody_> i can't stop using Windows, I have lots of softwares that don't work on Linux
[06:11] <pancho> i better do that
[06:11] <pancho> hehe
[06:11] <gnomie> i need >= 15 GB for ubuntu. i try kde, gnome, xfce parallel. my dist-upgrade also need 2,6 GB!
[06:11] <Spee_Der> I wish I could get to the bios in the laptop so I can turn on the HD to install Linux.
[06:11] <jsl3> Woody_, for example..?
[06:11] <Woody_> jsl3: autocad, maya
[06:12] <Spee_Der> The laptop is the Compaq model 4160t. No F-10 access to the bios.
[06:12] <Shafto> Woody_, You sure you tried winehq.com
[06:12] <jsl3> maya for linux is available.. afaik
[06:12] <TheFettMan> pshh whatever.. it probably has to do w/ dd or ntfsclone anyway
[06:12] <Woody_> Shafto:  what does that do?
[06:12] <meanfish> pfft.  use blender. :P
[06:12] <Shafto> Woody_, Basically runs windows apps on linux
[06:12] <Woody_> oh really!
[06:12] <Tom47> Woody_: a useful approach is to put windows in a vm and then you can access it (ms) withot rebooting
[06:13] <cables> Am I the only one who thinks OpenOffice needs a new UI? After trying AbiWord, I realized just how horrible OO's UI was, especially the options menu.
[06:13] <meanfish> Tom__:  hardware rendering doesn't work well in vm, which wouldn't work for autocad and maya.
[06:13] <Woody_> Tom47: please no abbreviations, im a n00b in Linux
[06:13] <Shafto> Woody_, or do as Tom47 said, however if they run fine on wine thats usually quite abit faster
[06:13] <Shafto> Woody_, Virtual machine
[06:13] <Woody_> ah okay
[06:13] <jsl3> and what about Varicad 2007(linux) instead of autocad (win32)?
[06:14] <Shafto> Woody_, For most windows apps there is an opensource alternative for linux
[06:14] <Woody_> i SHOULD use autocad for university purposes
[06:14] <mc44> cables: you know this is the wrong channel for that question
[06:14] <meanfish> Basically, when assessing needs for linux...look for a parallel program rather than compatibility for the same program.
[06:14] <jsl3> Woody_, poor one..
[06:14] <Tom47> Woody_ there are a lot of vitual machines about ... i personally use the vmware server free edition
[06:14] <pancho> could someone help me with an issue?
[06:14] <Woody_> Shafto: can you give me the list of the alternatives?
[06:14] <meanfish> i.e. don't look for winamp, look for a replacement (xmms, bmp)
[06:14] <pancho> i can not install tarballs
[06:14] <pancho> for some reason
[06:14] <Shafto> Woody_, Just ask, someone on here will know
[06:15] <jsl3> meanfish, mpd is the best =)
[06:15] <cables> mc44: sorry, nothing I can say to that.
[06:15] <bulmer> pancho:  you dont install tarballs directly
[06:15] <Shafto> Woody_, I mean look you mentioned autocad and already people chuck up alternatives for you
[06:15] <pancho> then how ?
[06:15] <Woody_> visual basic?
[06:15] <meanfish> tarballs are basically like zip files.
[06:15] <cables> pancho: how are you trying to install them? You might need to either compile or just run the program from the tarball.
[06:15] <Shafto> Woody_, I actually think that runs under wine fine
[06:15] <Woody_> ah okay
[06:15] <maxxism> wow this driver problem is really pissing me off.  I tried to revert back to the albertmilone nvidia drivers.   no such luck.
[06:15] <pancho> i wasw trying to compile
[06:15] <pancho> *was
[06:15] <cables> !compile | pancho
[06:15] <ubotu> pancho: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:15] <mc44> !ohmy | maxxism
[06:16] <ubotu> maxxism: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:16] <Woody_> i have a question also, whenever i want to download+install a software i should use the terminal and say:   sudo apt-get install blablabla?
[06:16] <bulmer> pancho which one? look for the targets in the  Makefile
[06:16] <Shafto> Woody_, Depends what version we are talking about though
[06:16] <POVaddct> pancho: you should check first if you can install the software as a package. installing from a tarball is generally not the best choice.
[06:16] <maxxism> since when is "pi$$ing" a bad word
[06:16] <pancho> yea but there are some thing i need, that only are available in tarballs
[06:16] <Woody_> Ubuntu 7.04
[06:16] <Shafto> Woody_, I mean of VB
[06:16] <jsl3> meanfish, mpd + some gui tool, sonata for example
[06:16] <Woody_> ah okay
[06:17] <pancho> i understand
[06:17] <mc44> maxxism: would you say it to your grandmother? :p
[06:17] <meanfish> roger that.
[06:17] <maxxism> mc44 yes.  and she would say it too. haha
[06:17] <mc44> maxxism: no hope for you then :)
[06:17] <maxxism> <-----  imbred redneck.
[06:17] <pancho> how can i install boot screens ?
[06:17] <Shafto> Woody_, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=94
[06:17] <cables> !usplash | pancho
[06:17] <ompaul> maxxism, well be nice to the rest of the people then then ;-)
[06:17] <ubotu> pancho: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[06:18] <pancho> where can i get upsplash ?
[06:18] <Woody_> i cant wait to try Ubuntu :(
[06:18] <Shafto> Woody_, Hehe
[06:18] <mc44> pancho: look at the links in the answer ubotu gave you
[06:18] <Woody_> thanks sahfto
[06:18] <Shafto> Woody_, Np
[06:19] <Svish> is it possible to.. "copy", file permissions from one folder to another?
[06:19] <pancho> nice
[06:19] <cables> Svish: not that I know of, but it's pretty easy to view and change permissions on a folder.
[06:19] <cables> !permissions | Svish
[06:19] <ubotu> Svish: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:20] <Shafto> Woody_, joi what are your system specs?
[06:20] <msikma> Hi everybody. I'm wondering why I can't seem to use 1680x1050 even though I configured it in xorg.conf.
[06:20] <Svish> cables: how do you do that? i know of the chown thingy, but not sure how to use it..
[06:20] <pancho> can i install beryl with my current SIS card ?
[06:20] <Woody_> BenQ, 2.4GHZ, 512MB DDR2 RAM, 80GB HDD, geForce 4 32MB (its kinda old)
[06:20] <cables> !man | Svish
[06:20] <msikma> I get an error that the hsync is out of range, but 1680x1050 is my native resolution.
[06:20] <ubotu> Svish: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:21] <Shafto> Woody_, Ok :)
[06:21] <campione> ciao
[06:21] <Woody_> Shafto: does the desktop effects work with my system?
[06:21] <granger> is there any way to get ndiswrapper on 6.10?
[06:21] <Shafto> Woody_, Id use beryl over built in compiz
[06:22] <cables> !ndiswrapper | granger
[06:22] <meanfish> I got bored of beryl/compiz.
[06:22] <pancho> i better get a geforce
[06:22] <ubotu> granger: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:22] <jsl3> ok, gb 2 all
[06:22] <Woody_> Shafto: Fiesty Fawn doesn't come with beryl preinstalled?
[06:22] <pancho> is there a geforce compatible with 4x agp ?
[06:22] <Shafto> Woody_, It comes with compiz, when i tried that it messed up all other 3d apps
[06:22] <FairWitns> Can anyone assist with a wired ethernet problem? I have the module up, but ifconfig doesn't appear to be associated with it...
[06:22] <gradin> anybody know why i'm getting gpg key errors on apt-get updates?
[06:22] <Shafto> Woody_, And that was on a 6600
[06:22] <Spee_Der_> phew.
[06:23] <meanfish> yeah...beryl/compiz really aren't ready for default-install prime time yet.
[06:23] <Shafto> meanfish, I agree
[06:23] <cables> meanfish: there's a warning about experimental software when you try to enable it.
[06:23] <meanfish> heheh
[06:23] <Shafto> oh well :P
[06:24] <meanfish> yeah.  thats so you can't get too angry when it kills your xserver.
[06:24] <meanfish> and you have to log back in.
[06:24] <pancho> how can i install a lan network ?
[06:24] <FairWitns> ifconfig eth0: "eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found"
[06:24] <pancho> my friend wants me to install him ubuntu
[06:24] <Spee_Der_> Cupid, I had to re-boot. Did the synaptic package help with your problem please ?
[06:24] <Woody_> Shafto: so buttom line.... can i see the effects on my system or not?
[06:24] <pancho> and he has that type of newtork
[06:24] <bulmer> FairWitns: is there an entry in /etc/network/intefaces ?
[06:24] <Shafto> Woody_, Sure they work on built in intel they should have no problem on yours
[06:25] <meanfish> Woody_:  with an nvidia card, there's no reason you can't use beryl or compiz.
[06:25] <Woody_> meanfish: Shafto :  but it is only 32MB
[06:25] <d00d> Can someone help me with my xserver
[06:25] <FairWitns> bulmer: "auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[06:25] <Shafto> Woody_, Id always recommend beryl over the preinstalled compiz though, think meanfish will agree
[06:25] <Shafto> Woody_, My built in intel runs at 8mb and can probably handle them :P
[06:25] <Shafto> d00d, Whats up with it?
[06:25] <Woody_> lol really Shafto
[06:25] <FairWitns> bulmer: I manually loaded the module (forcedeth) and I think I'm somehow missing the association that eth0 is forcedeth.
[06:25] <Woody_> thanks a lot man!!!!!!
[06:25] <meanfish> Beryl is much better.
[06:25] <Woody_> AMAZINGGGG
[06:26] <Shafto> Woody_, Hehe
[06:26] <Woody_> Ubuntu 7.04 is a good competitor against Windows Vista i believe, isnt it?
[06:26] <d00d> the nvidia kernel module has the version 1.07174 but this x module has the version 1.0-9755
[06:26] <d00d> i dont know what to do
[06:26] <meanfish> It's not a matter of being super-ultra-3d-awesome.  I mean, it's not doom3.  It's simply rendering your desktop using hardware rendering.
[06:26] <Shafto> Woody_, 6.10 is as good if not better
[06:27] <Woody_> Shafto: the Ubuntu 7.04 comes with beryl already installed? or i have to install it manually? what about compiz?
[06:27] <zootm> Woody_: Vista has good points and bad points, so does Ubuntu
[06:27] <Shafto> Woody_, Comes with compiz, but id leave it disabled and donwload beryl
[06:27] <zootm> it's kinda hard to make a direct call on which is "better"
[06:27] <meanfish> I'd argue that anything 6.06 or higher can give Vista a run for its money as an OS.
[06:27] <guerby> hi, is there any repo with olsrd?
[06:27] <killux> im doing a spanish project for school, in openoffice writer I changed the languages from english to Spanish(spain) but will the auto spell checker still work?
[06:27] <Shafto> zootm, Yeah, windows mainly has the software market
[06:28] <Woody_> I didn't see anything interesting in Vista
[06:28] <meanfish> Shafto:  Correction - windows mainly has the commercial software market. :)
[06:28] <Shafto> zootm, But im not gonna knock wine which will get there someday
[06:28] <bulmer> FairWitns: what do you show in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf
[06:28] <Woody_> you need a supercomputer to run Vista
[06:28] <Shafto> meanfish, ubuntu rocks on the opensource :P
[06:28] <zootm> well, i mean, as much as it's tempting to make fun of Microsoft, Vista's not a bad OS by any means
[06:28] <meanfish> exactly. :)
[06:28] <Shafto> zootm, Just eats ram for the fun of it
[06:28] <mc44> Woody_: vista is offtopic for here :)
[06:28] <zootm> ha
[06:28] <Woody_> lol
[06:28] <Woody_> okay :D
[06:29] <FairWitns> bulmer: "all  default  lo  wlan0"
[06:29] <zootm> perhaps, but everyone has like a billion gigs of RAM now anyway ;)
[06:29] <Cupid> Spee_Der: I was AFK - Yeah, Thanks! :D Its all sorted
[06:29] <Woody_> in other words, Vista is banned here
[06:29] <FairWitns> That looks like it's missing something...
[06:29] <Shafto> mc44 = channel op?
[06:29] <mc44> Woody_: close enough :)
[06:29] <zootm> i can't criticise things for memory use, I'm a Java programmer ;)
[06:29] <bulmer> FairWitns: right, it seems missing your eth0
[06:29] <LjL> Woody_: just like everything that isn't an ubuntu support question/answer
[06:29] <Woody_> LjL: yeah thats true
[06:29] <granger> NDISWRAPPER?
[06:29] <zootm> Woody_: I don't think this would be the place to be for an unbiased assessment of Vista, in any case
[06:29] <Shafto> zootm, Haha no your cant!
[06:29] <msikma> Is anybody able to help me with getting a resolution to work?
[06:29] <pancho> lolz
[06:30] <meanfish> granger:  what happens when you perform "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" in terminal?
[06:30] <killux> anyone? openoffice's irc is dead
[06:30] <FairWitns> bulmer: Hrm.  I'm not certain as to what is in those dirs....looking now.  Maybe just copy wlan0 (which works) and start hacking?
[06:30] <clearzen> Does anyone know what port rsync connects to by default on the recieving computer? Is it 186?
[06:30] <pancho> as far as i know , this is an ubuntu chat
[06:30] <msikma> My native res is 1680x1050. I'm running 6.10 virtualized, but cannot go higher than 1024x768.
[06:30] <meanfish> my tv runs in 800x600.  :D
[06:30] <granger> nothing
[06:30] <Shafto> msikma, You added it in xorg?
[06:30] <killux> i know i tried asking my question in openoffice's chat
[06:30] <bulmer> FairWitns: you can try yes..i suppose each nic card physical or virtual is represented there
[06:30] <msikma> Shafto: yes. My error log states that hsync is out of range for 1680x1050.
[06:30] <killux> nobody answered in like 10 minutes
[06:31] <Woody_> Shafto: can i PM you?
[06:31] <Shafto> Woody_, If your registered go for it
[06:31] <Woody_> ah im not :(
[06:31] <d00d> Shafto, u ge that ?
[06:32] <FairWitns> bulmer: It's a good start I suppose.  Wonder why it's not there...
[06:32] <granger> how do i do that
[06:32] <Shafto> !register | Woody_
[06:32] <ubotu> Woody_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:32] <bulmer> FairWitns: use network manager perhaps to get it there
[06:32] <Shafto> Is it actually possible to run a VM at the exact same res as your native?!
[06:33] <deadeye> Can anyone tell me if I need to install some mp3 codec for rhythmbox manualy, or should it be there by default?
[06:33] <schizm> ubuntu sure makes it hard to setup a vncserver properly
[06:33] <mc44> Shafto: thats the point
[06:33] <schizm> man, threads and threads on people having pain :)
[06:33] <FairWitns> bulmer: Using ubuntu, I don't see the card anywhere in the GUI menus..
[06:33] <LjL> !mp3 > deadeye    (deadeye, see the private message from Ubotu) | the latter
[06:33] <LjL> deadeye: ... i mean the former
[06:33] <bXi> schizm: you should try nxclient/nxserver instead of vnc
[06:33] <schizm> bxi: ive seen that mentioned, haven't looked into it
[06:33] <bulmer> FairWitns: then maybe it needs to be re-installed
[06:33] <bXi> schizm: it beats the crap out of vnc
[06:34] <schizm> im mostly looking into this so I can allow headless use of an ubuntu box from an XP box
[06:34] <granger> how do i get the working ndiswrapper?
[06:34] <schizm> ill investigate, thanks
[06:34] <LjL> !ndiswrapper > granger    (granger, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:34] <carpola> if i wanted to add something to my sound module, how would i open up the snd-hda-intel file?
[06:34] <deepsa> hey all madar chod's how are you
[06:34] <bXi> schizm: i do the same for my development server
[06:34] <FairWitns> bulmer: That's going to be a last resort.  This is a combined mythtv server / desktop  which is running fine, and took a lot to get working nicely.
[06:35] <pancho> how can i install gaim themes ?=
[06:35] <pancho> ?
[06:35] <erfan> who can help me for delet icons menu items?
[06:35] <mc44> carpola: what are you trying to add?
[06:35] <zootm> pancho: smily themes?
[06:35] <carpola> alsa-base
[06:35] <bulmer> FairWitns: i meant re-installed just the nic card and the corresponding driver
[06:35] <schizm> bXi:  thanks a bunch, looking into it now
[06:35] <meanfish> I think you can open the smileys dialog and drag-and-drop the package in.
[06:35] <carpola> because my left speaker works and my right does not
[06:35] <zootm> should that be "smiley"?
[06:35] <pancho> nope
[06:35] <pancho> icon themes
[06:35] <nadi> quit
[06:35] <zootm> hmm
[06:35] <zootm> i didn't know you got icon themes
[06:35] <FairWitns> bulmer: Aahhh.  How so?
[06:35] <zootm> feeling silly now
[06:36] <meanfish> I didn't know there were icon themes for gaim.
[06:36] <pancho> those visual styles
[06:36] <meanfish> lol
[06:36] <Shafto> pancho, Try looking on the gaim website?
[06:36] <granger> how do i download ndiswrapper?
[06:36] <pancho> ....ok
[06:36] <Shafto> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper?
[06:36] <bulmer> FairWitns: umm shutdown and remove the nic card, maybe on bios you need some tweaking too..then reboot?
[06:36] <meanfish> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[06:36] <schizm> currently upgrading my 6.10 to 7.04 beta so can't grab nxserver right now heh
[06:36] <onosendai> !help   How do you start the XFCE gui after install.  all i get is the login prompt
[06:36] <ddoT> [12:34pm]  <LjL> !ndiswrapper > granger (granger, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:36] <meanfish> nxserver is sexy.
[06:36] <LjL> ddoT: ?
[06:37] <ddoT> he asked the same question again.. I was attempting to answer.
[06:37] <Shafto> onosendai, Did you originally have gnome?
[06:37] <deepsa> meanfish: yeah its bitch
[06:37] <FairWitns> bulmer: Its been a really long time since I used the wired port.  I bet I have it disabled in the BIOS.  It would be stupid, but just like me....
[06:37] <LjL> ddoT: oh
[06:37] <Shafto> onosendai, And you've installed xfce over it/
[06:37] <meanfish> I'm kind of liking BitchX as an IRC client.
[06:38] <Shafto> !bitchx
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitchx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <The1> guys what is octet-stream ?
[06:38] <zootm> i'm quite enjoying xchat-gnome ;)
[06:38] <carpola> !alsa-base
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsa-base - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <deepsa> !madar chod
[06:38] <onosendai> thnaks .  this was froma clean install.  not sure what was loaded
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about madar chod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <zootm> octet-stream is the MIME type for binary data, Thel
[06:38] <meanfish> xchat is nice.
[06:38] <FairWitns> Going to have to reboot and check.  Thanks a lot for the help.  It's a new direction to try.
[06:38] <carpola> !modprobe.b
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe.b - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <zootm> i think
[06:38] <The1> I found a bin file on my desktop maybe I replaced it by wrong
[06:38] <bo> sorry,i am Noob...how do i get to Ubuntu Germany..... / # ???
[06:38] <POVaddct> Shafto: forget bitchX, try irssi instead
[06:38] <zootm> ah, yeah
[06:38] <Shafto> POVaddct, I use chat
[06:38] <zootm> sometimes executable files are .bin files
[06:39] <Shafto> POVaddct, I use Xchat
[06:39] <LjL> !botabuse | carpola
[06:39] <ubotu> carpola: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:39] <deepsa> bo www.madarchod.com
[06:39] <POVaddct> Shafto: ah okay
[06:39] <meanfish> xchat is friendlier.
[06:39] <meanfish> bitchx runs in terminal.  lol
[06:39] <Shafto> POVaddct, Nice and simple :)
[06:39] <bo> thx
[06:39] <carpola> oops sorry. im new
[06:39] <zootm> you might need to set it up as a program in the permissions to run it?
[06:39] <d00d> Can someone help me with my xserver
[06:39] <deepsa> d00d: yes
[06:39] <zootm> although obviously if you don't know what it is don't run it ;)
[06:39] <deepsa> tell the problem
[06:39] <POVaddct> meanfish: well irssi runs in terminal too and i find it very friendly :)
[06:39] <meanfish> what's your xserver doing?
[06:39] <d00d> the nvidia kernel module has the version 1.07174 but this x module has the version 1.0-9755
[06:39] <meanfish> ahhh
[06:39] <big_bang14> i have messed up my xorg by trying to configure my wacom, how can i restore the .backup i made (thankfuly before messing it up)? i have the live cd if thats any help.
[06:39] <d00d> deepsa, any ideas ?
[06:40] <meanfish> I stand corrected. :)
[06:40] <LjL> big_bang14: no need for the CD... just boot, and at the console type  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf , assuming that's the backup filename
[06:40] <bo> #/ubuntu.de
[06:40] <carpola> can anyone help me fix my speakers?
[06:40] <bo> damn
[06:40] <LjL> bo: /join #ubuntu-de
[06:41] <carpola> the forum threads don't tell me
[06:41] <bo> aaah
[06:41] <bfreexxx> zootm, do 'file <file>.bin' to see if system recognizes what kind of executable it is
[06:41] <bo> thx
[06:41] <POVaddct> !de | bo
[06:41] <ubotu> bo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:41] <meanfish> also, if you bork up your xorg.conf file, you can run in terminal "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:41] <big_bang14> LjL, how do i boot without a xorg, it messes it all up
[06:41] <LjL> big_bang14: don't you simply end up in a text-mode console?
[06:41] <zootm> bfreexxx: it's not me that's got the problem it's Thel, but that's good advice for him/her!
[06:41] <LjL> big_bang14: try hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1
[06:41] <meanfish> after it fails, can you do a ctrl-alt-F5 or something like that?
[06:42] <meanfish> yeah.  what LjL said. :)
[06:42] <big_bang14> LjL, ok, i will try
[06:42] <joonr> Hi all
[06:42] <carpola> can anyone help me? my left speaker works whereas my right does not
[06:42] <Spee_Der_> Hello joonr
[06:42] <LjL> big_bang14: still if that doesn't work, you can always boot in recovery mode (that's an option available in your boot menu)
[06:42] <Spee_Der_> carpola, open the volume control panel and check the settings.
[06:42] <d00d> when i reboot i get it all the time but if i run the installer it will startx for me
[06:43] <big_bang14> LjL, do i have to do it after its failed or can i do it before?
[06:43] <meanfish> the installer has a built-in configuration.
[06:43] <joonr> I am trying to install third-party drivers for my Geforce 6800, but the installer does not want me to do so from within X Windows. Can I boot ubuntu without GNOME, or is there some other way to install the driver?
[06:43] <LjL> big_bang14: after
[06:43] <LjL> big_bang14: what precisely do you see on the screen after it fails, anyway?
[06:43] <carpola> Speed_der_: the one next to the time??
[06:43] <famir_> Help ! any idea why my wireless card is not loading unless im running this command "/ipw3945-1.1.2/./load debug=0" ?
[06:43] <Spee_Der_> carpola, yes.
[06:44] <schizm> bxi: basically what I'm looking for is to have a client good enough that it feels as though I'm at the ubuntu box, ie. full screen X11 at native res, will NX deliver that do you think?
[06:44] <Shafto> joonr, Try this..http://albertomilone.com/instructions.html
[06:44] <meanfish> joonr: do the following - 1.)  hit ctrl-alt-f5 and login, 2.) perform "sudo pkill gdm", 3.) run the installer
[06:44] <big_bang14> LjL, hold on, getting there
[06:44] <carpola> spee_der_: everything but line-in is full
[06:44] <joonr> thanks shafto - on my way there now
[06:44] <Shafto> joonr, That doesnt require anything like no x
[06:44] <bfreexxx> carpola, could be cabling/connector prob too
[06:44] <qfour21> !nfsmount
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfsmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <DarkSpirit> I am using XChat-Gnome and I was wondering where is the Userlist ?
[06:44] <Shafto> !ntfs
[06:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:44] <carpola> bfreexxx: why would it work correctly in windows then?
[06:45] <Spee_Der_> carpola, best I can for the moment.
[06:45] <`Penguin_> Wow thats alot of nicks @.@
[06:45] <carpola> spee_der_: k ty speed
[06:45] <bfreexxx> carpola, ok, thats not it then
[06:45] <treehousetim> can anyone help me get a microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 working?
[06:45] <Shafto> carpola, You checked your connections?
[06:45] <oni-dracula> can anyone tell me what might possibly cause ubuntu to randomly restart the computer?
[06:45] <carpola> shafto: yes, i have
[06:45] <Kiryn> I installed Mono-Devel and it doesn't show up in the menu
[06:46] <POVaddct> oni-dracula: faulty ram chips?
[06:46] <kingofbadluck> anyopne that can help me moiunting a sata partition?
[06:46] <bfreexxx> oni-dracula, memory errors, acpi problems, run memtest86+
[06:46] <Shafto> kingofbadluck, Is it a windows partition?
[06:46] <meanfish> oni-dracula: power supply issues could also do it.
[06:46] <big_bang14> LjL, it says: failed to start x server... etc
[06:46] <oni-dracula> POVaddct, bfreexxx, ran memtest86 over 8 times
[06:46] <kingofbadluck> shafto: yes
[06:46] <LjL> big_bang14: right, hit all the OK's, and then you'll be in a console
[06:46] <Shafto> !ntfs | kingofbadluck
[06:46] <ubotu> kingofbadluck: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:47] <Shafto> then look at !ntfs-3g
[06:47] <kingofbadluck> shafto i followed this guide : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[06:47] <bfreexxx> oni-dracula, video card issues, try more conservative bios settings, disable agp-fast-write, stuff like that
[06:48] <oni-dracula> bfreexxx, couldn't have anything to do with the new kernel version?
[06:48] <Ayabara> I've switched from xp to ubuntu on a couple of PCs, and I always get trouble with folders and files using the nordic letters (o with a line through it and its friends). Can anyone tell me what the problem is, and if there is an easy fix that allows me to use those letters and have "portable files and folders"
[06:48] <bfreexxx> oni-dracula, lock-ups, crashes, reboots, usually some hardware-bus-issue, can be driver issue also, if new kernel does it
[06:48] <d00d_> i fixed it
[06:48] <treehousetim> microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000, anybody have any ideas how to get this working?
[06:48] <d00d_> i had to add nvidia module to the modules
[06:49] <leszek> re
[06:49] <oni-dracula> bfreexxx, ok I'll look into the hardware...hopefully if it's a software issue someone can figure it out for me :)
[06:49] <big_bang14> LjL, ok lets see if its worked
[06:50] <DarkSpirit> I am using XChat-Gnome and I was wondering where is the Userlist ?
[06:50] <Shafto> DarkSpirit, Dont you have to drag it out abit, to make it biggeR?
[06:51] <POVaddct> DarkSpirit: i'm not sure but i think xchat-gnome is crippled. try using xchat (non gnome version) instead.
[06:51] <Woody_> im going to install ubuntu right now
[06:51] <Woody_> bye bye XP
[06:51] <Woody_> lol
[06:51] <chowmeined> Hello, I am trying to get my Canon Pixma IP3000 printer running under ubuntu, I looked on the OpenPrinting database and it says it works perfectly but I have never gotten it to work properly with any of the drivers I have tried. I tried all the variants of BJC-7000 but they are all washed out and muddy with photos, and documents get strangely resized and go off the edges of the page.. I have tried the drivers from Canon Japan, the
[06:51] <chowmeined> Pixus 3100 drivers segfault sometimes and even when it does work it is extermely red and there is no way to change it.. has anybody gotten this printer to work properly? Preferably with open source drivers?
[06:51] <big_bang14> LjL, your a life saver! thank god for people like you!
[06:51] <DarkSpirit> POVaddct: I have a problem with XChat itself
[06:51] <Kiryn> can anyone tell me why monodevelop isn't in the appliciations menu?
[06:51] <kingofbadluck> shafto. ive instaled those packages the !ntfs-3g ones..... and it has not solved my problem
[06:51] <Shafto> Woody_, Hehe okay, have fun
[06:52] <DarkSpirit> POVaddct: For some reason it has decided to cut off the last letter whenever I or someone else types
[06:52] <Shafto> kingofbadluck, dont know anything about that never had windows and ubuntu at the same time
[06:52] <Woody_> ill be back Shafto  to teach me how to install the nvidia driver
[06:52] <POVaddct> DarkSpirit: sorry, i stopped using xchat some years ago, so i cannot help you with this
[06:52] <Shafto> Woody_, Haha
[06:52] <kingofbadluck> im trying to rescue some files from the xp partition
[06:52] <DarkSpirit> What do you use ?
[06:52] <treehousetim> microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 usb, can anyone give me some pointers to getting this to work?
[06:52] <Shafto> DarkSpirit, Get the normal xchat not, the gnome one
[06:52] <POVaddct> DarkSpirit: irssi (console client)
[06:52] <big_bang14> treehousetim, whats your problem?
[06:52] <DarkSpirit> Shafto: I just said I got a problem with it
[06:52] <Shafto> DarkSpirit, Sorry jsut read above
[06:53] <Shafto> DarkSpirit, Just noticeds
[06:53] <DarkSpirit> NP
[06:53] <treehousetim> the mouse doesn't work.
[06:53] <treehousetim> :)
[06:53] <flo>  what is the name of the gnome screen capture program? the one that maks a video file not just a screenshot
[06:53] <big_bang14> treehousetim, you plug it in and it doesnt work?
[06:53] <treehousetim> right.
[06:53] <joonr> Shafto: Thanks, I found the driver in the Add appli9cations applet. The one I had I downloaded directly from nVidia, but that is a generic Linux driver, not Ubuntu specific
[06:53] <big_bang14> treehousetim, have you googled it?
[06:53] <treehousetim> I'm booting from a cd - just trying this out, and when it started up... no mouse movement.
[06:53] <treehousetim> I have googled it.
[06:53] <kingofbadluck> shafto: got the partition mounted. but it has 1 folder named lost+found and no files inside.   should be load of stuff in that partition...... i got one hd (sataone) and 2 partitions.... one xp ntfs and 1 ext3 to ubuntu....... any idea how i can rescue some important files from the xp partition?
[06:53] <bXi> any nx client users here?
[06:54] <big_bang14> treehousetim, anything in the forums?
[06:54] <Shafto> kingofbadluck, I said i dont know much about mounting, other than my cd driver cause it hates linux atm!
[06:54] <bulmer> bXi i have used them
[06:54] <treehousetim> I didn't look at the forums - I looked at the support section of ubuntu.com and found the irc info
[06:54] <meanfish> I mounted a horse one time.
[06:54] <treehousetim> and decided to try it.
[06:55] <big_bang14> treehousetim, www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:55] <treehousetim> in case it was a simple thing.
[06:55] <treehousetim> thanks.
[06:55] <big_bang14> treehousetim, first port of call
[06:55] <Nicholas> Am i in ubuntu?
[06:55] <treehousetim> navigating web pages is a bit of a challenge with no mouse.
[06:55] <treehousetim> :)
[06:55] <Nicholas> Hello!
[06:56] <meanfish> the tab button is your friend. :)
[06:56] <Svish> !jsp
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <big_bang14> treehousetim, yes, i gess it would be
[06:56] <treehousetim> I know about that, but with a hundred links on a page it takes a while.
[06:56] <treehousetim> :)
[06:56] <Brush01uk> hi Nicholas
[06:56] <Nicholas> On Ubuntu, is there a way to create a shortcut to a folder
[06:56] <jonah> hi guys trying to install skype on amd64, did force arhitecture but it wont launch, get this error: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:56] <Nicholas> on the desktop?
[06:57] <big_bang14> treehousetim, if its not there you should try posting, you will get a responce, probably
[06:57] <treehousetim> thanks big bang.
[06:57] <Nicholas> In ubuntu is there a way to create a shortcut to a folder?
[06:57] <meanfish> right click on folder, select "Make Link"
[06:57] <big_bang14> treehousetim, no prob
[06:58] <Nicholas> Thanks!
[06:58] <kingofbadluck> anyone that can help me? got the a partition mounted., where i have linux and xp.  the xp part shows  1 folder named lost+found and no files inside.   should be load of stuff in that partition...... i got one hd (sataone) and 2 partitions.... one xp ntfs and 1 ext3 to ubuntu....... any idea how i can rescue some important files from the xp partition?
[06:58] <Nicholas> Ubuntu
[06:58] <Nicholas> Ummmmmmmmmmm
[06:58] <Nicholas> I think there is a command.
[06:58] <DarkSpirit> ClamAV anygood ?
[06:59] <big_bang14> any one know how to change the mapping on a wacom? i have a 12X12, not mapping proberly
[06:59] <oni-dracula> ok I figured it out... I think it's my nvidia drivers that are causing the restarts.  Out of curiosity I ran xscreensaver-demo and X died and restarted itself.  So can anyone give a suggestion as to a remedy?
[06:59] <meanfish> kingofbadluck:  how are you mounting your windows partition?
[06:59] <Nicholas> kingofbadluck, Terminal, cd /mnt
[07:00] <kingofbadluck> meanfish: i used a program named automatix that autoinstaled some package to mount all partitions
[07:00] <Rprp>   ChanServ ConnectServ Duiv GameServ Global MemoServ NickServ OperServ Roconda Rprp Wesleysld
[07:00] <Brush01uk> Nicholas,right click on folder, select "Make Link"
[07:00] <Kiryn> can anyone tell me why monodevelop isn't in the appliciations menu?
[07:00] <Nicholas> kk
[07:00] <Nicholas> i have no clue
[07:00] <meanfish> open terminal and type "mount"
[07:00] <ByPasS> oni-dracula : have u done nvidia-xconfig ?
[07:00] <meanfish> do you see any where it says "type ntfs?"
[07:00] <Nicholas> Question, should I request a CD of Festy Fawn?
[07:01] <big_bang14> Kiryn, not all programs you install showup in the programs menu
[07:01] <Shafto> Nicholas, With up to a 10 week delievery time no
[07:01] <Nicholas> Yea, I'll probably burn one myself
[07:01] <mp_> also last time i got a cd from ubuntu they burned them wrong
[07:01] <Kiryn> so how do I start it
[07:01] <big_bang14> Kiryn, you might have to run it from the terminal
[07:01] <oni-dracula> ByPasS, I have a new kernel version... I'm thinking maybe I need to recompile my nvidia driver for this new version?  Will nvidia-xconfig do this or do I need to reinstall from the script?
[07:01] <mp_> that was back in 5.04 lol
[07:01] <meanfish> it's funny...
[07:01] <Kiryn> yeah but how do I run it
[07:02] <Kiryn> i got the terminal opened
[07:02] <Nicholas> Which do you prefer, Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[07:02] <meanfish> when you're new, you hate the terminal.
[07:02] <meanfish> Nicholas: do you like Gnome or KDE?
[07:02] <DarkSpirit> How do I change the number of times it WIPE wipes over a program ?
[07:02] <vox754> !nickspam > hendrixski_afk
[07:02] <Kiryn> im on ubunty
[07:02] <Shafto> Nicholas, Its p to you personally i like the xfce
[07:02] <smo> hi
[07:02] <DarkSpirit> I mean change the default
[07:02] <Shafto> Nicholas, so xubuntu
[07:02] <smo> how can i create a deb package after ./configure and make commands?
[07:02] <Shafto> smo, From rpm?
[07:02] <meanfish> I personally prefer Gnome so I use Ubuntu.
[07:02] <Nicholas> A kinda like KDE, but after I tried Ubuntu, I'm in to GNOME
[07:02] <smo> from sources
[07:02] <mc44> smo: what are you compiling?
[07:02] <big_bang14> Kiryn, menu-accessories-terminal then try typing monodevelope
[07:02] <meanfish> then stick with Ubuntu.  :)
[07:03] <Nicholas> ^^I tried kde from Knoppix
[07:03] <mp_> can i update from 6.10 to festy thru apt-get, is it safe on an older laptop?
[07:03] <smo> won t use apt-build cause it will download mplayer and i made my won compile for mplayer...
[07:03] <smo> own
[07:03] <kingofbadluck> meanfish can you msg me please
[07:03] <smo> i m compliling mozilla-mplayer
[07:03] <Brush01uk> Nicholas,  Right click on your desktop for  e.g  & Create Flolder,  then right click on that foldewr  & right click on folder, select "Make Link"
[07:03] <meanfish> mp_:  the easiest way to upgrade your version is gksudo update-manager -d
[07:03] <kadakas> how do i change the name of my hard disk drive "disk-2" to "MyDiskName" (in nautilus) ?
[07:03] <smo> compiling*
[07:03] <Kiryn> big_bang14 nope
[07:03] <Nicholas> :) Your the third person
[07:04] <mp_> k meanfish thanks will be doing that now
[07:04] <Shafto> Think im gonna go back to good old ubuntu
[07:04] <Juancab> Hi can anybody help me. I did a new partition for the /var folder, with GParted using the live CD, now I get a text interface telling me there's an error.
[07:04] <smo> make make install works normally but i prefer a small deb
[07:04] <big_bang14> monodevelop then
[07:04] <meanfish> I don't know how to do pm's on this thing.  lol.
[07:04] <Kiryn> nope
[07:04] <Shafto> meanfish, Right click on omeones name and open dialog window
[07:04] <smo> shafto mc44 any idears?
[07:04] <clearzen> smo: you can use checkinstall as well to make a deb
[07:04] <big_bang14> what kind of program is it?
[07:04] <Kiryn> IDE
[07:04] <smo> humm
[07:04] <smo> i l look
[07:04] <Brush01uk> ok, sorry, I  not looking at my sreen                :-)  enjoy UBUNTU
[07:05] <clearzen> smo: or the debian way with fakeroot
[07:05] <z3fir> hi all
[07:05] <jerome_> Hi
[07:05] <Nicholas> Hi
[07:05] <smo> think it was this way i used befiore and can t remeber it
[07:05] <soberwinux> hello,every one ,i compile a program on debian-x86 for arm-linux ,but it can not be run successfullythe error messae is :Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 62: elf_get_dynamic_info: Asser
[07:05] <soberwinux> tion `! "bad dynamic tag"' failed!
[07:05] <smo> can t find in goofgle
[07:05] <Brush01uk> Hi
[07:05] <smo> can help?
[07:05] <big_bang14> sorry, dont know, have you looked in the documentation or on their website?
[07:05] <kingofbadluck> meanfish enter #kingofthings please.
[07:05] <Nicholas> brb
[07:05] <soberwinux> any one can tell me what is wrong
[07:05] <Juancab> Hi can anybody help me. I did a new partition for the /var folder, with GParted using the live CD, now I get a text interface telling me there's an error.
[07:05] <jerome_> do you know how i can get all samba servers on my network with command line?
[07:05] <smo> installing checkinstall to try
[07:06] <z3fir> boys I have a problem with the 7.04 I can ask to you?
[07:06] <Nicholas76> It's BETA
[07:06] <Ramunas> z3fir: #ubuntu+1
[07:06] <Nicholas76> sure, ask
[07:06] <mc44> z3fir: ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:06] <z3fir> ok tnx
[07:06] <z3fir> :P
[07:06] <Nicholas76> in ubuntu+1
[07:06] <soberwinux> anyone can tell me what's wrong with the error message:
[07:06] <soberwinux> ?
[07:06] <Nicholas76> :
[07:06] <Nicholas76> : ?
[07:06] <Ginja_Ninja> how do you assign a audio device to an xsession ?
[07:07] <smo> damn checkinstall rocks ;)
[07:07] <soberwinux> i compile a program on debian-x86 for arm-linux ,but it can not be run successfullythe error messae is :Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 62: elf_get_dynamic_info: Asser
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[07:07] <Nicholas76> what's checkinstall?
[07:07] <bulmer> jerome_: maybe use smbclient ?
[07:07] <ardchoille> soberwinux: Is that compiled on Ubuntu?
[07:08] <smo> to build deb package from sources nicholas
[07:08] <Nicholas76> o
[07:08] <Nicholas76> Is ShipIt reliable?
[07:08] <smo> i made my own compile for mplayer support all now real x264 jack as output it rocks..... faac mov etc etc
[07:09] <vox754> !checkinstall
[07:09] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[07:09] <vox754> !info checkinstall
[07:09] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.0-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 88 kB, installed size 392 kB
[07:10] <smo> and it s good
[07:10] <Nicholas76> Is ShipIt reliable?
[07:10] <smo> first test successfull
[07:11] <soberwinux> i use the toolchain arm-linux-gcc to compile a program a.out,and transfer it to the sbc2410 arm-linux ,but it can not be run ,the error message is :  inconsistency detected bu ld.so:dynamic-link.h:62 elf_get_dynamic_info: assertion "bad dynamic tag  failed
[07:11] <soberwinux> hi ,man
[07:11] <Nicholas76> Is ShipIt reliable?
[07:11] <soberwinux> anyone can help me
[07:11] <Tom47> Nicholas76: yes but sometimes it takes a while
[07:11] <Nicholas76> oh.
[07:12] <Tom47> Nicholas76: and depends on what you want and where in the world you are
[07:12] <Xanthus35> I just reinstalled ubuntu and it said it was seeing itself and xp but when I rebooted it went directly into xp grub booter did not come up
[07:12] <ardchoille> Nicholas76: BTW, ShipIt will only send you cd's of Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper Drake).
[07:12] <Nicholas76> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:12] <pokoko> soberwinux, ask yourself this question. Why aren't you getting any answer ?
[07:12] <pokoko> soberwinux, because this is not the appropriate channel to ask development related question.
[07:13] <soberwinux> i have not seen  this error message ,
[07:13] <Nicholas76> Should I dual-boot Vista and Ubuntu on my new computer?
[07:13] <carpola> ew vista
[07:13] <carpola> :D
[07:13] <pokoko> soberwinux, it'd be in your best interest to ask these sort of question in more programming oriented channel such as #gcc, #C++ or some such.
[07:13] <Tom47> ardchoille feisty is now available to order via shipit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/login
[07:13] <soberwinux> pokoko , what's meaning of "bad dynamic tag "?
[07:13] <Nicholas76> I happen to like Vista...
[07:13] <ardchoille> Nicholas76: I feel that Windows isn't necessary.. I haven't touched Windows since 2001.
[07:14] <Nicholas76> !!!
[07:14] <pokoko> soberwinux, can't help you. If I knew don't you think I'd help ?
[07:14] <Nicholas76> I started using Ubuntu after XP crashed.
[07:14] <Xanthus35> pokoko gquestion why are I not getting an aswer to my grub question
[07:14] <pokoko> :)
[07:14] <carpola> i just switched to ubuntu and i love it so much more than windows
[07:14] <Juanca> Hi can anybody help me. I did a new partition for the /var folder, with GParted using the live CD, now I get a text interface telling me there's an error.
[07:14] <ardchoille> Tom47: That's awesome. Thank you for the update :)
[07:14] <pokoko> Xanthus35, either 1. People are not interested in answering your question 2. Don't know about grub
[07:14] <st9> Hi, I am using 6.10 and a recent update has caused my touchpad to become very slow. In xorg.conf it is configured as an alps touchpad with synaptics driver.. how can I speed it up?
[07:15] <pokoko> Xanthus35, sometimes asking the question to yourself helps. Google, Yahoo! also helps.
[07:15] <chowmeined> Xanthus35: I can help
[07:15] <Juanca> carpola: so do I, but now I'm in the middle of a love-hate feeling
[07:15] <Turms_ubu> i have feisty, a graphic card nvidia geforce3 TI500 , i have 3d+beryl on edgy on another partition, but now i cannot find the right driver, the right choise should be nvidia-glx but it doesn't seem to support the gpu, nvidia-glx-legacy works but i have 800x600 only, is it a bug or what?
[07:15] <kadakas> how can i specify a mount point for my hdd using gparted ?
[07:15] <soberwinux> this problem have someting to do with the linux system. not only the program such as c or c++ ,so i submit the problem here
[07:15] <pokoko> chowmeined, thanks for raising your hands up.
[07:15] <Juanca> Hi can anybody help me. I did a new partition for the /var folder, with GParted using the live CD, now I get a text interface telling me there's an error.
[07:15] <pokoko> :)
[07:15] <carpola> juanca: from where is the hate coming :)
[07:15] <chowmeined> Xanthus35: do you have that livecd handy?
[07:15] <gregcha117> im having some troubles with my microphone, it seems to work fine, i can hear it on the desktop, then when i use sound recorder nothing records and it says invalid parameters when i try to save, and in audacity it records but with an annoying digital hiss noise throughout
[07:15] <Xanthus35> I have serched the seach engines and this is my last stop so to speak
[07:15] <Shafto> Turms_ubu, You tried adding extra resolutions into your xorg.conf?
[07:15] <Xanthus35> yes I do
[07:16] <Nicholas76> In Terminal, (on my Live CD) I type "su" and it asks me for a password. What is the password for the Live CD?
[07:16] <chowmeined> Xanthus35: ok boot into that
[07:16] <Juanca> carpola: Now I'm not able to login, actually now I only get a text interface
[07:16] <POVaddct> !rootsudo | Nicholas76
[07:16] <Xanthus35> ok
[07:16] <ubotu> Nicholas76: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:16] <pokoko> Xanthus35, chowmeined is trying to help you. ;) Listen to him/her
[07:16] <Nicholas76> Ok
[07:16] <stephen> where do I go for ati driver troubleshooting?
[07:16] <carpola> juanca: you can just start up gdm again and get a gui interface
[07:16] <Turms_ubu> Shafto,  yes i have other resolution, namely 1024x768 and 1200x1024 depth 24
[07:16] <Nicholas76> That helps, cause in Knoppix you can just type su.
[07:17] <Xanthus35> I know answring him/her as instruction are given
[07:17] <Shafto> Turms_ubu, You tried running nvidia-settings?
[07:17] <Juanca> carpola: how can I start gdm again
[07:17] <chowmeined> Xanthus35: when you are booted into that, open a terminal
[07:17] <POVaddct> Nicholas76: sudo -s   gets you a root shell
[07:17] <Juanca> carpola: I did a new partition for the /var folder, with GParted using the live CD, now I get a text interface telling me there's an error.
[07:17] <Xanthus35> OK
[07:17] <Nicholas76> TY
[07:17] <chowmeined> Xanthus35: do you have sata drives or pata?
[07:17] <Xanthus35> sata drives
[07:17] <pokoko> Juanca, restarting gdm is just a matter of doing "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart" in your terminal.
[07:17] <carpola> juanca: hmm i always started by typing in like, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:18] <Juanca> pokoko, carpola: I will try it
[07:18] <pokoko> Juanca, either will do.
[07:18] <pokoko> ;)
[07:18] <carpola> whats the command in xchat to write someones name quickly?
[07:18] <chowmeined> Xanthus35: type: gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:18] <Shafto> carpola, tab
[07:19] <Nicholas76> Ubuntu is my FAVORITE OS ever! :)
[07:19] <Xanthus35> ok writing that down
[07:19] <stephen> hello?
[07:19] <gregcha117> m having some troubles with my microphone, it seems to work fine, i can hear it on the desktop, then when i use sound recorder nothing records and it says invalid parameters when i try to save, and in audacity it records but with an annoying digital hiss noise throughout
[07:19] <POVaddct> carpola: write only the first letters, then press the tab key
[07:19] <pokoko> carpola, you need to type first few letters of the nick and then press TAB.
[07:19] <stephen> ati driver help?
[07:19] <chowmeined> Xanthus35: can you paste that on a site?
[07:19] <pokoko> !ati
[07:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:19] <carpola> ah excellent thanks. it wasnt working earlier and i thought itd be the same command as regular mirc
[07:19] <Juanca> pokoko: First one didn't
[07:19] <pokoko> carpola, Xchat is designed to be very user friendly
[07:19] <POVaddct> carpola: mirc is not regular. it is terrible.
[07:20] <Turms_ubu> Shafto, no, i didn't try nvidia-settings, but the problem is that according to what i see on the nvidia site the card should be supported by the driver 96xx that is nvidia-glx, but that driver doesn't seem supporting the gpu, but it is not true because in edgy i have a driver of the 96xx series
[07:20] <pokoko> Juanca, ok. then the second one will.
[07:20] <st9> Hi, I am using 6.10 and my touchpad is too slow after an update. In xorg.conf it is configured as an alps touchpad with synaptics driver. how can I speed it up? anyone familiar with this config?
[07:20] <Shafto> Turms_ubu, ask in #ubuntu+1 then
[07:20] <Nicholas76> I was reading on the Ubuntu Community help and saw: Ubuntu 7.04 can import your Windows bookmarks, favorites, wallpaper, documents, and pictures. It also includes software to read and write files on your Windows drive.  COOL!
[07:20] <Sonas> hey Im running Edgy and when i shutdown, all i get is something like this "will now shutdown  {numbers. numbers}. I had a similar problem on 6.06 and that was solved by editing the menu.lst file but I dont know how to edit the new one. can anyone help? Thanks
[07:20] <Turms_ubu> Shafto, ah ok, sorry, i didn't recollect feisty is not out yet
[07:20] <chowmeined> Xanthus35: you can use http://rafb.net/paste/ to paste on
[07:20] <Bsims> Any idea why I can't scroll in a video on ipod that I converted with Vive?
[07:20] <pokoko> st9, i believe if you play around the settings in your mouse configuration, you'll be able to speed up your mouse pointer
[07:21] <stephen> how do you get a task manager up in gnome?
[07:21] <Shafto> Turms_ubu, np
[07:21] <st9> pokoko: thanks will try this
[07:21] <Shafto> stephen, I think its in system admin system monitpr
[07:21] <Juanca> carpola: Ok, it seemed to work, how do I restart or what do i do to see If I got the graphic interface again?
[07:21] <stephen> HELP
[07:21] <pokoko> stephen, go to your terminal and type "top".
[07:21] <carpola> Juanca, if you started it, it should go to the main login screen
[07:22] <carpola> Juanca, what happened when you entered the start command?
[07:22] <stephen> kill right?
[07:22] <st9> pokoko: appears that makes no difference. also I installed the gsynaptics package, but altering this made no difference to the touchpad. Would I need to restart gdm to see any difference?
[07:22] <Juanca> carpola: It didn't. I only have a response: * Starting GNOME Display Manager...   and the $ again
[07:22] <Sonas> hey Im running Edgy and when i shutdown, all i get is something like this "will now shutdown  {numbers. numbers}. I had a similar problem on 6.06 and that was solved by editing the menu.lst file but I dont know how to edit the new one. can anyone help? Thanks
[07:23] <stephen> how do I kill a process?
[07:23] <carpola> Juanca, hmmmm i had that problem yesterday and i ended up reformatting. do you know how you go to that problem in the first place?
[07:23] <pokoko> stephen, no please type "gnome-system-monitor"
[07:23] <pokoko> stephen, killall process_name
[07:23] <Nicholas76> Does anyone have a link on how to dual boot ubuntu and windows?
[07:23] <pokoko> st9, try that
[07:23] <Xanthus35> chowmeined once I have that opened what do I do then please
[07:23] <pokoko> !dualboot
[07:23] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:24] <stephen> thank you
[07:24] <pokoko> np
[07:24] <Nicholas76> That was fast!
[07:24] <chowmeined> Xanthus35: oh paste the contents on http://rafb.net/paste/.. and send me the link so I can see
[07:24] <pokoko> heh
[07:24] <POVaddct> pokoko: killall should be used with caution
[07:24] <Juanca> carpola: no I've been through a lot of different problems, I'm only trying to not format because I have important information saved inside a virtual machine
[07:24] <Xanthus35> ok
[07:24] <pokoko> POVaddct, i know it kills all the process.
[07:24] <pokoko> POVaddct, but for clearness and easyness. ;)
[07:24] <Xanthus35> going to boot into live cd
[07:25] <carpola> Juanca, are you dualbooting with vista?
[07:25] <POVaddct> pokoko: all processes with the given name
[07:25] <Juanca> carpola: that's why I'm hating ubuntu by now
[07:25] <pokoko> yes yes
[07:25] <carpola> juana, or any other os for that matter
[07:25] <chowmeined> Xanthus35: if you google "cgi irc work" there is a web based irc client you can use
[07:25] <Juanca> carpola: no I was running VMWare with Windows XP as guest in Ubuntu
[07:25] <pokoko> Juanca, why do you hate Ubuntu ? it should be the easiest and the most friendlist Linux distro.
[07:25] <chowmeined> Xanthus35: if you can access the internet with your livecd
[07:25] <Bsims> Any idea why I can't scroll in a video on ipod that I converted with Vive?
[07:26] <IndyN00b> Hello.  Is there a way to tell fsck to run on bootup so it is not scanning the root filesystem while it is in use?
[07:26] <Juanca> pokoko: That's what I supposed, now I can't even enter
[07:26] <carpola> Juanca, hmm i had that problem yesterday but i didn't know how to fix it. i accidentally deleted my windows partition trying to merge an empty HD so i just reformatted.
[07:26] <carpola> Juanca,  i would ask someone else here because i just started with ubuntu
[07:26] <DM|> Anyone have an idea how to make World of warcraft  start up not soft lock the computer when running beryl
[07:26] <POVaddct> Juanca: you said you made a separate partition for /var. did you copy the contents of the old /var directory to it?
[07:27] <IgorSobreira> im trying to create a Makefile here...to install a program...but it looks for a "glib.h" and cont find....anybody knows how can i get it??
[07:27] <clearzen> IndyN00b: You can set disk checks on boot with tune2fs
[07:27] <zootm> DM|: You could probably just use the beryl control panel to switch to Metacity when you're about to run the game, but I suspect that's not hte answer you wanted
[07:27] <IndyN00b> Thanks clearzen
[07:27] <DM|> zootm nah i got that part, but i want to be able to load it with Beryl on.
[07:27] <clearzen> IndyN00b: I think it is the -c option...it will check every number of boot depending on what you specify
[07:27] <Juanca> POVaddct: yes, by the terminal though. Do you want me to tell you what I did exactly?
[07:27] <pokoko> IgorSobreira, you do not in normal circumstance need to create a Makefile to install program
[07:28] <POVaddct> Juanca: yes
[07:28] <carlesoriol> how can i made xchat check spell in my language?
[07:28] <Nicholas76> I g2g. Be Back Later ;)
[07:28] <IgorSobreira> pokoko: but do you know how can i get this...glib...i don even know whats that
[07:29] <Juanca> POVaddct: First I mounted the partitions I had. The old one for / and the new empty one for /var
[07:29] <pokoko> IgorSobreira, those are mostly header files need to run a program. Those header files are infact a C header file that are needed to compile your software
[07:29] <Juanca> POVaddct: then I did this: mv -v /mnt/sda1/var/* /mnt/sda4/
[07:29] <tiky> #ubuntu-es
[07:29] <pokoko> IgorSobreira, it depends on which package you are trying to compile.
[07:29] <pokoko> IgorSobreira, what's the error when you do "./configure" ?
[07:30] <Znortfl> Hello, I got a logitech dual action gamepad. Is there any way I can configure Ubuntu to say, if I press button 1 on it, Ubuntu acts as if I pressed enter?
[07:30] <Juanca> POVaddct: after that completed I did this: dumpe2fs /dev/sda4|grep UUID
[07:30] <IgorSobreira> pokoko: checking for GLIB - version >= 2.8.0... no
[07:30] <ardchoille> IgorSobreira: Which app are you compiling?
[07:30] <gregcha117> im having some troubles with my microphone, it seems to work fine, i can hear it on the desktop, then when i use sound recorder nothing records and it says invalid parameters when i try to save, and in audacity it records but with an annoying digital hiss noise throughout
[07:30] <IgorSobreira> pokoko:  This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed
[07:30] <pokoko> IgorSobreira, have you installed glib header packages using synaptic ?
[07:31] <Juanca> POVaddct: then I open fstab with nano and added something like this: UUID=2bd95e5c-e86b-4335-a95a-94279b1213c5 /var       ext3    defaults        0       1
[07:31] <AaronMT> What is the URL to the latest FF build?
[07:31] <samu> Can someone recommend a command line program for splitting up a wav into smaller wavs at certain times?
[07:31] <IgorSobreira> pokoko: im lookin for it on apt-get
[07:31] <IgorSobreira> pokoko: glibc6 ?
[07:31] <POVaddct> Juanca: sounds reasonable so far
[07:31] <Juanca> POVaddct: and finally I restarted
[07:31] <ffm> HELP! I cant write to a disk!
[07:31] <vox754> Want to talk about programming, C, C++, Python, OpenGL, and Lisp? Visit #ubuntu-programming
[07:32] <pokoko> IgorSobreira, start synaptic and install libc6 and libc6-dev
[07:32] <pokoko> yes
[07:32] <ardchoille> IgorSobreira: Which app are you compiling? Have yo checked for it in *all* the repos?
[07:32] <ffm> I have a memory stick pluged itn that is FAT32, but it clames to be full!
[07:32] <IgorSobreira> pokoko: thanks
[07:32] <pokoko> tell me thanks when it runs OK. ;)
[07:32] <POVaddct> Juanca: can you check if the new /var partition is actually mounted?
[07:32] <pokoko> heh
[07:32] <Juanca> POVaddct: How do I do that?
[07:32] <POVaddct> Juanca: df
[07:32] <pokoko> ffm, can you please be little more specific ?
[07:33] <xamox> why when I try to run php4 anytime i try to visit my site it tries to download a PHTML file but if I run php5 it doesn't? The code isn't php5 specific either. I want to run php4 because that's what my production server runs.
[07:33] <jerome_> hi, do you know how i can scroll an xterm buffer with keyboard?
[07:33] <Juanca> POVaddct: Yes it's there, but it says it's full
[07:33] <thingy> jerome_, doesn't shift pageup/down work?
[07:33] <POVaddct> Juanca: so this is the problem
[07:34] <Znortfl> Hello, anybody got any information on using a gamepad on Ubuntu without super-sensitive analog controllers? I am trying to play supertux with it, but Its really sensitive and the native gamepad support in the game lacks the option
[07:34] <gene6482> can anyone help me edit dsdt so my sound will work?  apparently my acpi isn't set up correctly
[07:35] <ffm> pokoko: I have a disk that fits 1gb of data. It says its capasity is 128 mb.
[07:35] <Juanca> POVaddct: what can I do, there (inside/var) is a folder called vm which has VMWare files, and I don't want to errase them
[07:35] <st9> pokoko: hi, touchpad still very slow after altering the mouse and synaptics settings. could the problem be in xorg.conf?
[07:35] <jerome_> thingy no it doesn't
[07:35] <Juanca> POVaddct: That's why I moved /var in the first place
[07:35] <ardchoille> xamox: Have you done this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-bcc9faae4e29d55af8fd528ecfa758a5563ff7bd
[07:35] <defjux> ok so when i try to access my hd a lot.. like say checking torrents and listening to a mp3.. my system seizes.. my ram gradually maxes out over 10-20 seconds my cpu use drops to near 0 and my computer almost totally stops responding
[07:35] <defjux> (i can move my mouse very jerkily) is this my HD crashing? what ubuntu files are crucial to backup please
[07:36] <POVaddct> Juanca: do you have enough space on / to move them temporary there?
[07:36] <thingy> jerome_, what terminal emulator is it? xterm/gnome terminal/konsole/rxvt/aterm etc.
[07:36] <pokoko> st9, I can't help you further. But maybe someone with more knowledge could help here. any laptop geeks around ?
[07:36] <pokoko> heh
[07:36] <jerome_> xterm
[07:36] <ffm> pokoko: I realy need to be able to use this.
[07:36] <st9> pokoko: no probs thanks for your help
[07:37] <defjux> hi i missed any answers there
[07:37] <jerome_> thingy: screen running in xterm
[07:37] <pokoko> pokoko, so umounting and mounting won't help ?
[07:37] <POVaddct> Juanca: btw, you should have checked the size of /var before making a separate partition for it: du -sh /var
[07:37] <pokoko> ffm, so umounting and mounting won't help ?
[07:37] <jerome_> thingy: maybe a screen configuration
[07:37] <defjux> ok so when i try to access my hd a lot.. like say checking torrents and listening to a mp3.. my system seizes.. my ram gradually maxes out over 10-20 seconds my cpu use drops to near 0 and my computer almost totally stops responding
[07:37] <defjux> (i can move my mouse very jerkily) is this my HD crashing? what ubuntu files are crucial to backup please??
[07:37] <Juanca> POVaddct: that has no sense, I've just did the contrary to free space in / (20G), and the new partition with /var has almost 15G. I have plenty of space in the partition for /home
[07:37] <pokoko> ffm, it's FAT partition right ?
[07:38] <Juanca> POVaddct: /var, has about 9.2G
[07:38] <gene6482> can anyone help me edit dsdt so my sound will work?  apparently my acpi isn't set up correctly
[07:38] <ffm> pokoko: FAT32
[07:38] <Juanca> POVaddct: or had when I checked
[07:38] <ffm> pokoko: It is a flash stick.
[07:38] <abcdef> I want to execute some command when i boot up can i just add it to rc.local?
[07:38] <POVaddct> Juanca: well vmware files tend to get larger during usage
[07:38] <pokoko> ffm, ok do "sudo umount /dev/your_usb_stick_device"
[07:39] <POVaddct> Juanca: they are growable disk formats
[07:39] <Juanca> POVaddct: that should be, but what then
[07:39] <ffm> pokoko: It is media/diskt
[07:39] <ffm> *disk
[07:39] <POVaddct> Juanca: i wonder why vmware images are in /var anyway
[07:39] <Juanca> POVaddct: if I make a new pariin probably it will fill it too
[07:39] <Juanca> POVaddct: I don't know
[07:39] <pokoko> ffm, do "cat /etc/fstab" and paste it's output to pastebin
[07:39] <ffm> pokoko: Never mind, it is sdb.
[07:39] <pokoko> !pastebin
[07:39] <jerome_> thingy: I've the solution : Ctrl+a + Esc then I can scroll
[07:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:40] <pokoko> ffm, ok cool
[07:40] <jerome_> thingy: thank you
[07:40] <thingy> jerome_, yeah i just came across it as well http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_screen#Scrolling_back_in_Screen
[07:40] <pokoko> ffm, umount it
[07:40] <ffm> pokoko: So, do I remount now?
[07:40] <POVaddct> Juanca: either way, you have to get some free space in /var, otherwise some services (including gdm) won't run
[07:40] <pokoko> ffm, then do "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb"
[07:40] <pokoko> ffm, yes
[07:40] <pokoko> ffm, what it reports ?
[07:41] <ffm> pokoko: Invalid.
[07:41] <mythtv> Okay, I am trying to get a LAMP stack going in Ubuntu 6.10
[07:41] <pokoko> ffm, what ?
[07:41] <ffm> pokoko: Gives me help message
[07:41] <mythtv> but Apache stubbornly will NOT run php properly
[07:41] <POVaddct> Juanca: i've set up an extra partition /home/images for my qemu disk images.
[07:41] <pokoko> ffm, "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/diskt" ?
[07:41] <pokoko> ffm, sorry sdb1
[07:41] <xamox> ardchoille, yeah I followed everything on that page, cleared my cache, it's still trying to download the php file
[07:41] <pokoko> :)
[07:42] <ffm> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/disk
[07:42] <ardchoille> mythtv: There are sections for php in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:42] <pokoko> ffm, yeah
[07:42] <ferronica> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:42] <Juanca> POVaddct: but being he VMWare the folder that's fulfilling my partitions I could only errase files from there, but I'm afraid to me that's like re-formating if I lose my files inside VMWare.
[07:42] <ffm> pokoko: REply was mount: mount point /media/disk does not exist
[07:42] <joonr> Hi everyone. Screencard driver sorted out thanks :) Next question: I installed MonoDevelop through the add / remove programs applet, and when I click on it to start I get the "Starting MonoDevelop" bar in my task bar, but it just disappears silently after about 15 seconds. How can I troubleshoot this issue?
[07:42] <Juanca> POVaddct: What's qemu
[07:42] <pokoko> ffm, you need a directory called /media/disk
[07:42] <ardchoille> xamox: Did you install the libapache2-mod-php4 package and do the tweaks in the Troubleshooting sections? Those helped me.
[07:42] <pokoko> ffm, "sudo mkdir /media/disk"
[07:42] <POVaddct> Juanca: an open source pc emulator
[07:42] <erUSUL> joonr: launch it from a terminal and check if it spits some error
[07:43] <ferronica> when i try to uninstall xmmx from add/remove got this error-->E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:43] <xamox> ardchoille, yeah, that's installed. ran a2enmod php4
[07:43] <joonr> excellent idea, thanks. How do I launch it from a terminal?
[07:43] <ffm> pokoko: Done.
[07:43] <Juanca> POVaddct: as good as VMWare?
[07:43] <ardchoille> xamox: Restarted apache?
[07:43] <pokoko> ffm, "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/diskt"  now please
[07:43] <pokoko> ffm, "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/disk"  now please
[07:43] <Nicholas76> Here's what I plan on doing: Get a laptop in October with Vista Home Premium loaded on it. Install Ubuntu to dual-boot with Windows. Do you think it's worth it, or should I just use Ubuntu?
[07:43] <xamox> ardchoille, yep.
[07:43] <ardchoille> xamox: :(
[07:43] <ffm> pokoko: Done.
[07:43] <xamox> ardchoille, cleared the cache too
[07:44] <Donovan> can Ubuntu automatically handle RPM package files?
[07:44] <pokoko> ffm, now just do "df -h"
[07:44] <POVaddct> Juanca: no, but i doesnt even need a kernel module to run
[07:44] <POVaddct> Juanca: s/i/it
[07:44] <pokoko> ffm, see how much disk is available in /media/disk ?
[07:44] <xamox> ardchoille, trying a2enmod php4 again says its already enabled.
[07:44] <pokoko> ffm, is it correct ?
[07:44] <Znortfl> Hello people, I am trying to install qjoypad, but the installer keeps complaining about a package called "libqt3c102-mt". I can't seem to install it via apt-get. What am I doing wrong?
[07:44] <ffm> pokoko: Yes. It is fixed. Do I have to do this EVERY time i plug it in?
[07:44] <Jinxed> where do i put skin files for vlc player?
[07:44] <pokoko> ffm, it's probably because of autoamtic handling by pmount.
[07:44] <Juanca> POVaddct: I need to run Photoshop inside it, I don't think qemu is an option
[07:45] <Nicholas76> Is dual-booting worth it?
[07:45] <pokoko> ffm, which leads to *uck-ups sometime.
[07:45] <Juanca> POVaddct: Well, do you see any possible solution?
[07:45] <POVaddct> Juanca: fortunately i dont need any windows software
[07:45] <pokoko> ffm, now just do "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" please
[07:45] <Donovan> depends on your need.
[07:45] <POVaddct> Juanca: moving one the of vmware image files is no option?
[07:45] <Juanca> POVaddct: I'm following your path, but I'm starting
[07:45] <Nicholas76> Is it hard to dualboot?
[07:45] <Shafto> Juanca, Why do you need photoshop? GIMP is just s good
[07:45] <POVaddct> Juanca: i never really used windows
[07:46] <ffm> pokoko: Ok
[07:46] <vox754> Nicholas76, very easy, very convenient
[07:46] <bluefox83> Nicholas76, depends on your setup, sometimes it's very straight forward
[07:46] <loveasy> ```
[07:46] <pokoko> Nicholas76, a 3 year old kid can dual boot
[07:46] <ferronica> when i try to uninstall xmmx from add/remove got this error-->E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:46] <pokoko> heh
[07:46] <Nicholas76> GIMPShop is just like PhotoShop.
[07:46] <bluefox83> what the heck O.o
[07:46] <loveasy> hello!
[07:46] <bluefox83> what's gimpshop?
[07:46] <alexnb185> hey guys i am following this guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146278 and it said to type in "sudo ndiswrapper -i/home/alex/drivers/dr71wu.inf" and I did that and it gives me this.. idk what to do alex@alex-desktop:~$ ndiswrapper -d
[07:46] <alexnb185> Usage: ndiswrapper OPTION
[07:46] <alexnb185> Manage ndis drivers for ndiswrapper.
[07:46] <alexnb185> -i inffile        Install driver described by 'inffile'
[07:46] <alexnb185> -d devid driver   Use installed 'driver' for 'devid'
[07:46] <chowmeined> loveasy: 
[07:46] <alexnb185> -e driver         Remove 'driver'
[07:46] <alexnb185> -l                List installed drivers
[07:46] <alexnb185> -m                Write configuration for modprobe
[07:46] <alexnb185> where 'devid' is either PCIID or USBID of the form XXXX:XXXX
[07:46] <alexnb185> alex@alex-desktop:~$
[07:46] <loveasy>  
[07:47] <pokoko> alexnb185, please use pastebin
[07:47] <POVaddct> alexnb185: please do not paste in here
[07:47] <pokoko> !pastebin
[07:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:47] <bluefox83> !gimpshop
[07:47] <ubotu> gimpshop is a hack that makes The Gimp look and feel more like Photoshop.  A .deb for Ubuntu is available via http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[07:47] <loveasy>  
[07:47] <vox754> !enter > alexnb185
[07:47] <ffm> pokoko: And do what?
[07:47] <Juanca> Shafto: I don't think so (I think Inskape is better) but the real problem is that I won't learn gimp in a weekend and I have work to finish. My next project will be surely made with open source
[07:47] <pokoko> loveasy, this is english channel. :) please use english.
[07:47] <Nicholas76> GIMPShop is the GIMP made to look a little more like Photoshop
[07:47] <Shafto> Juanca, You sure that wine cant run photoshop?
[07:47] <loveasy> ok!
[07:47] <vox754> !zh
[07:47] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[07:47] <pokoko> ffm, ok just edit the line that says /media/sdb1 .........
[07:47] <CheesyJedi> hey
[07:47] <pokoko> ffm, paste the file @ pastebin
[07:47] <loveasy> IRC
[07:47] <pokoko> !pastebin
[07:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:47] <Juanca> Shafto: I'm pretty sure
[07:48] <chowmeined> loveasy: 
[07:48] <pokoko> ffm, i'll tell you exactly what you need to modfiy
[07:48] <CheesyJedi> what's an easy way to allow write access to my NTFS windows partition?
[07:48] <pokoko> modify
[07:48] <alexnb185> ok lets see
[07:48] <alexnb185> alex@alex-desktop:~$ ndiswrapper -d Usage: ndiswrapper OPTION  Manage ndis drivers for ndiswrapper. -i inffile        Install driver described by 'inffile' -d devid driver   Use installed 'driver' for 'devid' -e driver         Remove 'driver' -l                List installed drivers -m                Write configuration for modprobe   where 'devid' is either PCIID or USBID of the form XXXX:XXXX alex@alex-desktop:~$
[07:48] <visualdeception> i run photoshop 7 perfectly in wine
[07:48] <Nicholas76> Convert it to FAT32
[07:48] <Juanca> POVadcct: How that of moving VMWare images?
[07:48] <loveasy> 
[07:48] <Nicholas76> ENGLISH PLEASE.
[07:48] <POVaddct> Juanca: moving back with mv
[07:48] <CheesyJedi> Nicholas76: convert the WHOLE drive?!
[07:49] <CheesyJedi> It's my windows partition
[07:49] <Nicholas76> There is a way in windows
[07:49] <CheesyJedi> I just want write access to it
[07:49] <ferronica> when i try to uninstall xmmx from add/remove got this error-->E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:49] <Juanca> Shafto: Some people say that wine run photoshop 7, but I use cs2
[07:49] <Nicholas76> without losing data
[07:49] <ffm> !pastebin
[07:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:49] <CheesyJedi> Nicholas76: it sounds too risky
[07:49] <pokoko> ferronica, oh..... why do you need to uninstall xmms ?? it's so nice.
[07:49] <pirothezero> CheesyJedi, ntfsg3 file write and access
[07:49] <pokoko> (:
[07:49] <pokoko> pirothezero, ntfs-3g
[07:49] <CheesyJedi> pirothezero: ok, how do I get it?
[07:49] <ferronica> pokoko: it not working well here
[07:49] <pokoko> !ntfs-3g
[07:49] <alexnb185> well anyway... i need some help ...hey guys i am following this guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146278 and it said to type in "sudo ndiswrapper -i/home/alex/drivers/dr71wu.inf" and I did that .. and I would tell you what happens but it goes crazy in this chat
[07:49] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:50] <hamid> a question.
[07:50] <ffm> pokoko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15826/
[07:50] <pokoko> ffm, got that wait up
[07:50] <ferronica> pokoko: why is it showing me this error
[07:50] <ferronica> pokoko: when i uninstall it :(
[07:50] <hamid> where is human theme ? ican install it on debian etch 4?
[07:50] <CheesyJedi> k, thanks guys!
[07:50] <ferronica> pokoko: :(
[07:50] <ferronica> pokoko: i use rythmbox :)
[07:51] <ferronica> pokoko: do you have nay idea about it?
[07:51] <Juanca> POVaddct: how can I move back a folder which has fulfilled 15G to one that has 20G (and not all of them available)
[07:51] <CheesyJedi> I installed network manager but it doesn't work
[07:51] <alexnb185> really guys i need some help with terminal
[07:51] <CheesyJedi> how do I associate it properly with my network card?
[07:51] <POVaddct> Juanca: oh must have overlooked one message from you
[07:51] <POVaddct> Juanca: the channel is too full :)
[07:51] <Spee_Der> alexnb185, what's up ?
[07:52] <Juanca> POVaddct: don't worry I really appreciate your help
[07:52] <Spee_Der> alexnb185, not sure I can help, but what's up mate ?
[07:52] <alexnb185> i am following this guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146278 and it said to type in "sudo ndiswrapper -i/home/alex/drivers/dr71wu.inf" and I did that but it gives me this weird commmand.. i would have to show u in a little private chat window thing
[07:52] <pokoko> ffm, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15827/
[07:52] <POVaddct> Juanca: but i wasnt talking about moving back the whole folder, just one of the bigger files. or are they all related?
[07:53] <Powerking89670> Hello, can anyone direct me to where I can install mp3 Codecs?
[07:53] <CheesyJedi> alexnb185: put a space between -i and the location
[07:53] <Powerking89670> I tried it with the Add/Remove program but the only one on the list would not install
[07:53] <Spee_Der> alexnb185, I can not he;lp with that, but keep asking around, I'm sre someone will assist you in due time.
[07:53] <pokoko> ferronica, what does "sudo apt-get remove xmms" do ?
[07:53] <Znortfl> Could anybody point me in the right direction as to how Ubuntu supports gamepads? Drivers? Emulators?
[07:54] <pokoko> !codecs
[07:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:54] <Juanca> POVaddct: I think I will format again, I'm losing to much time trying to solve the problems and trying to get help for that; time that i will need to re-do my work
[07:54] <Powerking89670> thankyou
[07:54] <pablo_> hello
[07:54] <Juanca> POVaddct: Maybe I need Windows for a little longer
[07:54] <POVaddct> Juanca: wait
[07:54] <dzer0> hello
[07:54] <POVaddct> Juanca: do you have sshd installed?
[07:54] <Juanca> POVaddct: tell me
[07:54] <pablo_> wht your name
[07:54] <pablo_> ??
[07:54] <Juanca> POVaddct: I don't know what's that
[07:54] <POVaddct> Juanca: that is the openssh server
[07:54] <bluefox83> Juanca, the installer cd has a repair function that will go through and fix broken stuff...
[07:54] <DarkSpirit> Anyone know a Linux Binary Usenet Reader ?
[07:55] <alexnb185> how can i run ndiswrapper?
[07:55] <ferronica> pokoko: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:55] <ffm> pokoko: Doe.
[07:55] <pokoko> ferret, ok. do "dpkg --configure -a" please
[07:55] <Juanca> bluefox83: How's that
[07:55] <dzer0> I have XP on my system, and am downloading 7.04 to install, but the problem is I might be putting vista on here soon. When I install vista will I have to install GRUB again to make dual booting work or what?
[07:55] <POVaddct> Juanca: type pidof sshd. does it return a number?
[07:55] <Juanca> POVaddct: What's that for?
[07:55] <POVaddct> Juanca: for logging in from remote
[07:55] <pokoko> ffm, good. now whenever you plugin the flash disk it'll automatically be mounted to /media/disk
[07:55] <pokoko> ffm, goodluck. ;)
[07:55] <ffm> thx
[07:56] <pokoko> np
[07:56] <alexnb185> how can I run ndisrwapper?
[07:56] <Juanca> POVaddct: no it didn't
[07:56] <POVaddct> Juanca: if you have no problem with it, i could log in and check things
[07:56] <bluefox83> Juanca, i dunno about the full installer, i do however, know the "Alternate" installer cd has a text based interface and it has a tool that's just called "Fix/Rescue broken Installation"
[07:56] <alexnb185> and how can I know that I have all the compontents installed
[07:56] <ravalox> Has anyone here managed to get apache running php locally running on Ubuntu?
[07:56] <Juanca> POVaddct: no i don't
[07:56] <Juanca> POVaddct: tell me how
[07:56] <POVaddct> Juanca: do you mind taking this to another channel, i dont want to scroll up all the time :)
[07:57] <pokoko> heh
[07:57] <Juanca> bluefox83: where can I get the "Alternate" installer
[07:57] <bluefox83> ravalox, there are probably posts on the forums about that stuff, you might try googling for it
[07:57] <Juanca> POVaddct: sure
[07:57] <bluefox83> Juanca, on the site i believe...you're using 6.10 right?
[07:58] <POVaddct> Juanca: please join #povhelps
[07:58] <Powerking89670> Alright, just like the last set of codecs I recieve the following error when trying to install. http://www.swgemods.com/paste/viewp.php?id=20070415135743-5494
[07:58] <ravalox> Oh I have, none of it works
[07:58] <Juanca> bluefox83: right
[07:58] <ravalox> there is some obscure thing I've installed that complicates what should be very straight forward
[07:58] <JensenDied> Hello, does anyone have a reccomened irc server for running under ubuntu (edgy, or soon to be fiesty)?
[07:59] <ravalox> I swear I am about to carpet bomb this PC
[07:59] <eltese> Hi everybody! ;p Is ubuntu/kubuntu (not decided wich Im gonna use yet) easy to manage with a laptop? Ive got mixed answer in the past regarding this question so now I wonder if anyone would give me a validated opinion? :)
[07:59] <bluefox83> Juanca, and right now the server is down for maintenance D:
[07:59] <RAW-mEAT> eltese just run the live system from cd and check if everything works fine. ;)
[08:00] <alexnb185> guys I need help with extracting the ndiswrapper.. It says I have everything.. but when i try and do something with it.. it is never there
[08:00] <bluefox83> eltese, i have no personal experience with it on laptops, but i have several freinds that run it on theirs, and they don't seem to have much trouble once they figure out ndiswrapper for their wireless card
[08:00] <eltese> RAW-mEAT : Kind of embarrassing not to think about that honestly =)
[08:00] <eltese> bluefox83: ok, thx =)
[08:00] <zntneo> i'm having problems with my ndiswrapper anyone care to help?
[08:01] <bluefox83> zntneo, you might try giving full details (use a pastebin for pasting outputs from your machine)
[08:01] <zntneo> what do you need blue?
[08:02] <zntneo> thats why i didn't expalin becuase i'm not even sure what to post
[08:02] <bluefox83> zntneo, give people the details of the problem
[08:02] <peepsalot> does anyone here use tomboy + kubuntu?
[08:02] <zntneo> it seems that my card stops working randomly
[08:02] <zntneo> and then works again
[08:02] <DarkSpirit> Anyone know a Linux Binary Usenet Reader ?
[08:03] <peepsalot> when i load tomboy, it makes a space for it in the tray, but the icon is invisible, this is really annoying
[08:03] <Shafto> peepsalot, try #kubuntu
[08:03] <zntneo> heres my dmesg http://www.pastebin.ca/441415
[08:03] <JensenDied> Hello, does anyone have a reccomened irc server for running under ubuntu (edgy, or soon to be fiesty)?
[08:04] <bluefox83> zntneo, from what i have heard, the only reason wireless cards give out like that is a weak signal
[08:04] <zntneo> it seems the link becomes not ready randomly
[08:04] <pokoko> JensenDied, there are lots, try the unreal. easiest to configure and works out of the box.
[08:04] <ferronica> pokoko: what i do now?
[08:04] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
[08:04] <pokoko> ferronica, sorry. forgot what your problem was ?
[08:04] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
[08:04] <pokoko> :o
[08:04] <bluefox83> zntneo, take your lappy someplace you know you will get a strong signal
[08:04] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
[08:04] <ferronica> pokoko: why so
[08:04] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
[08:05] <rob_> my skydomes do not appear in beryl when i access the cube, why is this?
[08:05] <JensenDied> pokoko: thanks, ill try it out
[08:05] <zntneo> bluefox83: my wireless router is like 50 feet away
[08:05] <pokoko> np
[08:05] <Drum> MMING
[08:05] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
[08:05] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
[08:05] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
[08:05] <pokoko> ferronica, what why so ?
[08:05] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
[08:05] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
[08:05] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
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[08:05] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
[08:05] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
[08:05] <zntneo> someone kick drum please
[08:05] <Drum> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592549
[08:05] <bluefox83> oh for god sakes
[08:05] <bluefox83> a wannabe flooder >.>
[08:05] <zntneo> thank you
[08:05] <erider> I'm trying to run a 32bit program on my 64bit system but I have a chroot install to run 32bit programs but when I try to run this program I get this error: Panic: Failed to initialize GTK
[08:06] <zntneo> bluefox83: did you see my las comment?
[08:06] <rob_> my skydomes do not appear in beryl when i access the cube, why is this?
[08:06] <bluefox83> zntneo, about it becoming "not ready" randomly?
[08:06] <bluefox83> zntneo, and your router being 50 feet away?
[08:06] <zntneo> yes
[08:07] <zntneo> it just did it again
[08:07] <pokoko> heh
[08:07] <savan> is there some option to download ubuntu in dvd, even by jigdo or bt means?
[08:07] <pokoko> that Drum beat was too much
[08:07] <Powerking89670> *buh dum clash*
[08:07] <pokoko> ferronica, bear with me for I am serving 2 channels at once
[08:07] <pokoko> :)
[08:07] <bluefox83> zntneo, yeah i saw, but you gotta realise if you don't have enough bandwidth on it, it's still going to cut out. my girlfreind's cousin can sit 3 feet from his router but it can still do that (in windows) and the problem is, he's not pushing enough bandwidth
[08:07] <ferronica> pokoko: ok
[08:08] <Spee_Der> I think I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on dvd somewhere here....
[08:08] <bluefox83> savan, google ubuntu installer dvd
[08:08] <zntneo> oh i have plenty of bandwidth. i am on a college lan
[08:08] <Amrog> what is the difference between "mark for removal" and "mark for complete removal"?
[08:08] <rob_> !beryl
[08:08] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:08] <zntneo> i've gotten above i think a t3 in bandwidth before
[08:08] <pokoko> ferronica, so what did "dpkg --configure -a" do ?
[08:08] <philip_> Amrog, complete removal removes config files as well
[08:08] <bluefox83> Amrog, marking for removal keeps the settings files and such so that if you decide to reinstall later you wont have to re-do the settings, complete removal removes even the settings files
[08:08] <Xanthus35> Chowmeined here is the url rafb,net/p/Kmvn5E42.html  for the grub menu.1st
[08:09] <Amrog> OK, thanks.
[08:09] <Shadow_X> what app is it that handles the GNOME config for noobs?
[08:09] <sarracenia88> hello
[08:09] <loveasy_> hello!
[08:09] <pokoko> ferronica, in case you are struggling, you put that command in your terminal
[08:09] <pokoko> loveasy, hi!
[08:09] <shatrat> Shadow_X, gconf editor?
[08:09] <Shadow_X> theres an easy to use interface for configing themes and such in Ubuntu. I had it before and forgot it
[08:10] <zntneo> bluefox83: so i'm pretty sure its not bandwidth probs
[08:10] <loveasy_> hehe
[08:10] <bluefox83> Shadow_X, i think you want the package gnome-art ;)
[08:10] <Shadow_X> THATS IT!!
[08:10] <Shadow_X> lol
[08:10] <Shadow_X> thanks
[08:10] <sarracenia88> its called gnome control center
[08:10] <Powerking89670> where is sources.list found?
[08:10] <nabil> list
[08:10] <sarracenia88> its .lst
[08:10] <Bost> hi all
[08:10] <pokoko> Powerking89670, in your /etc/apt/ directory
[08:10] <Shafto> Powerking89670, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:11] <jpjacobs> Powerking89670,  /etc/apt/
[08:11] <Powerking89670> danke
[08:11] <bluefox83> zntneo, i dunno...i'm not a laptop user or a wireless user...stick around here and someone is bound to be able to help though
[08:11] <Spee_Der> Hello Bost.
[08:11] <erider> I'm trying to run a 32bit program on my 64bit system but I have a chroot install to run 32bit programs but when I try to run this program I get this error: Panic: Failed to initialize GTK
[08:11] <zntneo> hmm know much about network manager? it doesn't seem to work either
[08:11] <Xanthus35>  blhg
[08:11] <zntneo> i have to config my card through the command line
[08:11] <pokoko> erider, that seems like GTK problem
[08:12] <Spee_Der> say Bost, are you in Boston per chance please ?
[08:12] <Bost> guys do you know how to start up an application for another user which is currently logged in (I have ssh but no remote desktop sharing)
[08:12] <Bost> Spee_Der: no
[08:12] <Spee_Der> ty
[08:12] <sarracenia88> i dont have problems on my x64 bit machine
[08:12] <Adorack> Hello--where do I go for help on getting Beryl working on a Mac Book Pro?
[08:12] <sarracenia88> i run x86 programs all the time
[08:13] <alex_> hi all
[08:13] <erider> sarracenia88: that is the error Panic: Failed to initialize GTK
[08:13] <Shafto> Adorack, #ubuntu-effects
[08:13] <alex_> how do I use .jar apps on my feisty machine?
[08:13] <Adorack> Thanks, Shafto.
[08:13] <pokoko> alex_, java -jar appname.jar
[08:13] <erider> sarracenia88: I normally do have problems either
[08:13] <sarracenia88> i've never really had a problem like that before
[08:14] <ferronica> pokoko: Setting up gstreamer-editor (0.8.0-1ubuntu2) ...
[08:14] <zntneo> anyone in here know much about wireless specfically ndiswrapper and network-manager?
[08:14] <sarracenia88> did you try reinstalling the program
[08:14] <sarracenia88> and how did you install it
[08:14] <pokoko> ferronica, ok! goodluck :)
[08:14] <savan> bluefox83, all i could find is this http://www.ubuntu-hr.org/ningi/
[08:14] <erider> sarracenia88: apt-get
[08:14] <jessid> hello. If I installed Ubuntu Linux in a machine that has problems with the apic bug (I think it is said like that), is there any possibility to specify the noapic option somewhere, for example in grub, or something? thanks a lot!
[08:14] <Xanthus35> can someone please repost the urls for dual booting
[08:15] <sarracenia88> and you say that it is a x86 program
[08:15] <pastry> what music player is best to use in gnome?
[08:15] <sarracenia88> i use rythmbox
[08:15] <pokoko> ferronica, everything went well I guess. It was a problem with your dpkg subsystem because probably you failed to install/uninstall some package before and had corrupted the dpkg's local repository
[08:15] <sarracenia88> it works fine
[08:15] <erider> sarracenia88: 32bit program
[08:15] <sarracenia88> try reinstalling it from synaptic
[08:15] <sarracenia88> might help, but no garuntees
[08:15] <ferronica> pokoko: yes when install Gsteamer at that time system hans up and i restarted my computer.
[08:16] <pokoko> jessid, yes. when edit your /grub/menu.lst
[08:16] <pokoko> ferronica, ok. :)
[08:16] <sarracenia88> GO UBUNTU!
[08:16] <zntneo> so no one has much expereince with ndiswrapper and network-manager?
[08:16] <pokoko> heh
[08:16] <pokoko> :)
[08:16] <jessid>  pokoko: give me a minute i open that file!
[08:17] <Xanthus35> can someone please repost the urls for dual booting
[08:17] <alex_> pokoko: thanks, but I steal have a problem
[08:17] <pokoko> !dualboot
[08:17] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:17] <user_> anyone here uses wine for playing wow?
[08:18] <pokoko> user_, not me. you should ask wow to provide source code
[08:18] <zntneo> anyone using ndiswrapper and network-manager that might be able to help me with some problems?
[08:18] <Shafto> user_, Theres loads of docus about that
[08:18] <unmanarc> i have some trouble starting my ubuntu live cd with VESA driver... it doesnt work. doesnt start anything
[08:18] <user_> :)
[08:18] <user_> i just updated wine and now  i get white squares..
[08:18] <pokoko> alex_, what problem ?
[08:18] <Shafto> user_, If theres a problem ask #winehq
[08:18] <vox754> !alternate > unmanarc
[08:18] <pokoko> heh
[08:18] <pokoko> not uncommon.
[08:18] <Powerking89670> mwhahahahah MUSIC!
[08:18] <user_> thanks
[08:18] <user_> i'll try
[08:18] <sarracenia88> that was pointless
[08:19] <sarracenia88> powerking
[08:19] <Powerking89670> nah
[08:19] <vox754> !dual boot > Xanthus35
[08:19] <Powerking89670> Im just happy I finally got the gd codecs :p
[08:19] <savan> so that ubuntu ningi is official?
[08:19] <pokoko> sarracenia88, Powerking89670 is happy probably he got codecs working
[08:19] <pokoko> heh
[08:19] <pokoko> :)
[08:19] <sarracenia88> oh
[08:19] <sarracenia88> i know how that feels
[08:19] <ffm> pokoko: Still having same issue when I remount.
[08:19] <unmanarc> oh, thanks :D
[08:19] <Powerking89670> I cant use AramoK but that's a small defeat
[08:20] <PirateHead> I updated to the latest recommended kernel version last night and it broke my wireless connection. How can I fix it?
[08:20] <jessid> pokoko: i have found it...do i write the noapic option in the kernel or initrd line???
[08:20] <ffm> pokoko: *plug it in again.
[08:20] <pokoko> ffm, what issue ? saying invalid disk space ?
[08:20] <Powerking89670> I won the war afterall :D
[08:20] <ffm> pokoko: Yes.
[08:20] <sarracenia88> why can't you use it
[08:20] <alex_> pokoko:I have all sorts of  error msgs of the kind:
[08:20] <ned> when i run dvd::rip and rip a dvd, it hangs on "Grab preview"
[08:20] <alex_>  at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(libgcj.so.70)
[08:20] <alex_> I'm trying to run matrex
[08:20] <sarracenia88> ned: uncheck grab preview
[08:20] <pokoko> jessid in the kernel option
[08:21] <sarracenia88> in the config
[08:21] <vox754> PirateHead, which kernel, which Ubuntu? If you are using ndiswrapper or something else that you compiled, you need to recompile it.
[08:21] <pokoko> ffm, try "pmount /dev/sdb1".
[08:21] <pokoko> alex_, oh god, you need to get sun's java. gcj is pathetic
[08:21] <PirateHead> vox754: I'm using Ubuntu Edgy, and last night my Ubuntu update manager recommended that I upgrade to 2.6.17-11-generic
[08:22] <PirateHead> vox754: I am not using ndiswrapper.
[08:22] <jessid> pokoko: ey man...you dont know how grateful i am. I thought i was going to have to work with vista...now i am more happy! :)
[08:22] <pokoko> alex_, goodluck
[08:22] <alexnb185> guys if i type in ndiswrapper -l and it says no drivers detected... how can i get it.. i really need soem help
[08:22] <vox754> PirateHead, have you tried the previous kernel, to see if it still works?
[08:22] <ffm> pokoko: It is sdb, there is no sdb1 on my sys.
[08:22] <alex_> thanks
[08:22] <pokoko> jessid, goodluck to you too
[08:22] <osiris_> Hi ive been trying to get NTFS-3G working via automatix but whilst trying to mount my ntfs hard drives i get "Cannot mount un tidly shut down windows please shut down properly" how do i correct this without booting into windows (i do not have windows anywhere)
[08:22] <pokoko> ffm, whatever suits you
[08:23] <alex_> pokoko: what kind do I need to download? it used to be jre  but the changed it
[08:23] <jessid> pokoko: same for you!!!
[08:23] <PirateHead> vox754: I do not know how to do that, but it sounds like a good idea. Can you clue me in? =D
[08:23] <PirateHead> !automatix | osiris_
[08:23] <ubotu> osiris_: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:23] <pokoko> alex_, fire up synaptic "sudo synaptic" and look for "sun-java-bin"
[08:24] <pokoko> jessid, cool.
[08:24] <pokoko> :)
[08:24] <vox754> alexnb185, first you need to install some drivers like "sudo ndiswrapper -i <file>.inf"
[08:24] <pokoko> !beer
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <pokoko> heh
[08:24] <dzer0> I have XP on my system, and am downloading 7.04 to install, but the problem is I might be putting vista on here soon. When I install vista will I have to install GRUB again to make dual booting work or what?
[08:24] <Brad1> how do I check how much ram I have?
[08:24] <alex_> pokoko: thanks, I'll tell you what turned up
[08:24] <osiris_> PirateHead, Ok forget automatix this problem has nothing to do with it because when manually installing NTFS write support it does the same.
[08:25] <vox754> PirateHead, if you upgraded the kernel to 2.6.17-11, then there must still be a 2.6.17-10 option in the grub menu, just pick that one
[08:25] <pokoko> dzer0, we don't have advise for vista
[08:25] <pokoko> dzer0, #vista
[08:25] <djidane> salut
[08:25] <zntneo> so i'm thinking about installing xubuntu. Is there a network-manager for it?
[08:25] <djidane> j'aun probleme avec grub
[08:25] <LjL> !fr | djidane
[08:25] <PirateHead> vox754: I will try looking in Grub.
[08:25] <ubotu> djidane: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:25] <djidane> je n'arrive pas a faire de grub-install
[08:25] <Lavwere> hello
[08:25] <reyn> I'm trying to install cedega, apparently I might not have the 32bit nvidia drivers installed, would the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9xxx .run have them ?
[08:25] <djidane> oups sorry
[08:25] <PirateHead> Hello Lavwere
[08:25] <Andy2> I got a qestion
[08:26] <Shafto> !ask | Andy2
[08:26] <ubotu> Andy2: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:26] <LjL> osiris_, i've never used ntfs-3g, but obvious the error means that, since the filesystem wasn't unmounted, it may be corrupted. you could manually set the "clean" flag to true, though i have no idea how, but that would mean you'd risk losing data.
[08:26] <Andy2> I downloaded Ubuntu but i shut my computer down after I downloaded it and this morning it disappeared
[08:26] <Andy2> :/
[08:26] <djidane> i've got a problem with grub-install
[08:26] <vox754> PirateHead, you can view the kernels you have under /boot, so don't delete anything in it
[08:26] <pokoko> heh
[08:26] <djidane> redirection unexpected
[08:26] <zntneo> so no one here has expereince with ndiswrapper probs and network manager probs?
[08:26] <pokoko> Andy2, that's called Ubuntu magic
[08:26] <djidane> when i do a grub-install
[08:26] <pokoko> they dissappear if you don't run them.
[08:26] <Shafto> Andy2, Thats called unlucky :(
[08:26] <Andy2> o
[08:26] <Lavwere> I'm following http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/UbuntuOnApple but at the very last step, the reinstallation of grub, I get "The file u/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."  So I am not sure I should reboot.  Anybody knows about this problem?
[08:27] <Andy2> crap
[08:27] <Shafto> Andy2, You tried searching for it?
[08:27] <dzer0> what's a good, small FLAC player for ubuntu?
[08:27] <Andy2> yeah
[08:27] <catalyst_media> hey guys I have a program called mysqlcc that needs qt library 3.0.5 or higher, but it says I don't have it. I can't find it in synaptics does anyoen know where i can get it
[08:27] <Andy2> no luck
[08:27] <bricas> perhaps someone can help me get tomcat 5.5 working in feisty. I have it installed, and i started it (shows up in ps ax|grep tomcat), but "tomcat status" says it's not running, and localhost:8180 doesn't respond.
[08:27] <Andy2> I geuss I'll redownload it
[08:28] <pokoko> Andy2, 1. download the image (.iso) 2. Burn it to disc 3. Put the disc 4. Restart the system 5. Set the BIOS to boot from the disc 6. Enjoy Ubuntu!
[08:28] <Brad1> How can I check my system memory in ubuntu? I just installed an extra 256 megs, and I want to be sure it's working correctly.
[08:28] <FreonTrip> catalyst_media:  Using Kubuntu?
[08:28] <Andy2> thanks :)
[08:28] <Lavwere> how can I check if grub is correcly installed on my imac before rebooting?
[08:28] <catalyst_media> no feisty fawn ubuntu
[08:28] <zntneo> does automatix work on xubuntu?
[08:28] <jessid> good bye and thanks a lot...another reason to love Ubuntu Linux!!!! :) :)
[08:28] <Amrog> so, how do I share a printer, connected to my computer, with a windows computer on my home network?
[08:28] <Lavwere> I'm on the feisty fawn live cd, and finished the installation
[08:28] <Andy2> Does Ubuntu support eggdrops?
[08:28] <pokoko> Andy2, if you just use your common sense a little bit it's really easy.
[08:28] <FreonTrip> catalyst_media:  Consider installing KDE, or just doing a search in Synaptic for Qt and seeing what turns up.
[08:29] <pokoko> Andy2, why do you need eggdrops ?
[08:29] <savan> Brad1, just get memtest+, you can either run it from bootable fdd or cd
[08:29] <catalyst_media> I did synaptics and found nothing (actually I found a lot so I don't knwo whcih one to get)
[08:29] <zntneo> disregard last question
[08:29] <dzer0> will ubuntu work with my dual monitors?
[08:29] <catalyst_media> can I install KDE on ubuntu?
[08:29] <Andy2> just wanna host them
[08:29] <pokoko> dzer0, yes
[08:29] <FreonTrip> catalyst_media:  Lemme see...
[08:29] <catalyst_media> okay
[08:30] <zootm> catalyst_media: if you install the package "kubuntu-desktop" it'll install the whole Kubuntu distribution
[08:30] <Noiano> hello
[08:30] <pokoko> dzer0, there's something called xinerama extension in X which can be used for dual display.
[08:30] <pokoko> !xinerama
[08:30] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:30] <zootm> then you can just choose "KDE" from sessions on the login screen
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[08:30] <catalyst_media> will that mess up my other stuff? I'm new to linux so will all my other programs and themes stop working?
[08:30] <pokoko> posek, no!
[08:30] <pokoko> tonyyarusso, some flooding here huh ?
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> ya
[08:30] <zntneo> yea
[08:30] <FreonTrip> catalyst_media:  Doubt it.
[08:30] <pokoko> tonyyarusso, tighten the channel modes
[08:30] <Noiano> anyone can help with the wireless pccard? I can see the ap but I cannot surf...the arp table is emty...
[08:30] <zootm> catalyst_media: It shouldn't affect the stuff you already have installed at all. If you use the same programs in KDE and Gnome they'll share settings though
[08:31] <martinjh99> When is Fiesty Due..?
[08:31] <FreonTrip> Well said.
[08:31] <catalyst_media> wait so to use KDE I need to relogin and say I want to run it in KDE
[08:31] <Amrog> hello everyone, is it possible to share a printer with a windows box?
[08:31] <pokoko> !feisty
[08:31] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:31] <pokoko> Amrog, in short yes.
[08:31] <FreonTrip> martinjh99:  Feisty's due on the 19th; I'm using it now, and it's basically pure sex in Linux form.
[08:31] <pokoko> Amrog, linuxprinting.org
[08:31] <aldin> martinjh99: 19th april
[08:31] <bXi> are there people who managed to enable monitoring mode on an orinoco card in feisty?  or edgy for that matter
[08:31] <zootm> catalyst_media: Yes, just go to "sessions" on the login screen and select KDE
[08:31] <Andy2> thanks bye now :D
[08:31] <Amrog> pokoko, thanks.
[08:31] <pokoko> np
[08:31] <aldin> martinjh99: if God's will...
[08:32] <zootm> it'll ask you if you want to make it the default then you'll always use it, but you can always go back by selecting Gnome again
[08:32] <catalyst_media> well is there a way to get those qt libraries without KDE?
[08:32] <bulmer> if a DVD or cdrom is a bootable one, shouldn't there be a file at its "root"  that is bootable? or the bootable file can be in a sub-folder ?
[08:32] <martinjh99> FreonTrip> Been using OpenSuse for a while - Think I'll end up going back to Kubuntu...
[08:32] <oreth> small problem... My "taskbar" at the bottom of my screen has gone black, and the only program highlighted and visible is whichever one I"m currently using
[08:32] <FreonTrip> catalyst_media:  You don't have to use KDE; it's just nice to have its libraries available.
[08:32] <zootm> catalyst_media: If you install any KDE app using the package manager it'll install any needed Qt libraries with it, and they'll be used
[08:32] <Noiano> anyone can help with the wireless pccard? I can see the ap but I cannot surf...the arp table is emty...
[08:32] <mjr> bulmer, yes, doesn't need to be at root
[08:33] <bulmer> mjr: what make it search subdirectories for such bootable file?
[08:33] <user_> how do i see what drivers i have installed?
[08:33] <catalyst_media> ohhh so can I delete the other libraries I don't need cause I'm using linux in Vmware and only have 11gbs of space
[08:33] <vox754> catalyst_media, take a look at any KDE application like Kile or Kate and see the dependencies "aptitude show kile"
[08:34] <PirateHead> vox754: I am now using the older kernel version, and my wireless works. That confirms my suspicion that the kernel upgrade killed the wireless driver -- but I still don't know what to do about that .
[08:34] <catalyst_media> what does thatt do for me does it show what I need?
[08:34] <user_> how do i see what drivers i have installed?
[08:34] <digitalhav0c> whats a good usenet client?
[08:34] <martinjh99> IS there a fiesty beta dvd..?
[08:34] <bulmer> Noiano: you can ask the dhcpclient to release and re-establish
[08:34] <mjr> bulmer, the boot image file is spesified in the filesystem metadata as per el torito spec
[08:34] <FreonTrip> catalyst_media:  You might be able to, but I'd advise extreme caution.  Feel free to remove applications you don't use; you can probably view their dependency trees in Synaptic, but be careful about what you take out.
[08:35] <vox754> PirateHead, which card? Thar surely is a problem with the correct drivers or modules, like rt2500 or bcm43xx or ndiswrapper.
[08:35] <pokoko> PirateHead, heh. will copying the .ko file do the trick for you ?
[08:35] <pokoko> PirateHead, keep a backup though.
[08:35] <PirateHead> vox754: It's an Atheros card. I don't know what a .ko file is, pokoko.
[08:35] <FreonTrip> martinjh99:  http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta
[08:35] <bulmer> mjr: can that metadata file be accessible to see which file it uses for booting?  its an iso image, so i have it mounted right now
[08:36] <catalyst_media> okay how do i view dependencies? I can't figure it out
[08:36] <vox754> !who > catalyst_media
[08:36] <pokoko> PirateHead, go to /lib/modules/`uname -r' first please
[08:36] <sontek> How does ubuntu generate the menu.lst on the install for grub?
[08:36] <pokoko> PirateHead, I have seen a driver for atheros there
[08:36] <FreonTrip> martinjh99:  Note that it's still actively in development, so you may run into a little bit of weirdness and you will definitely have to download a BUNCH of updates.
[08:36] <catalyst_media> !who what does that mean?
[08:36] <FreonTrip> !nv
[08:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:36] <vox754> PirateHead, maybe you are using madwifi and you need to reinstall
[08:36] <Lavwere> how can I check if grub is correctly installed on my system before rebooting? I don't want to be left with a non-booting computer! I'm using the feisty fawn live cd and finished installing.
[08:36] <vox754> !bot > catalyst_media
[08:37] <holotone> How do I extract a multi-part rar in k/ubuntu?
[08:37] <Noiano> bulmer: the dhcp client cannot work because the packet do not reach the ap due to the fact that the arp table is not filled correctly
[08:37] <catalyst_media> vox what are you saying
[08:37] <PirateHead> vox754, pokoko: there is a madwifi driver in my /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic folder
[08:37] <FreonTrip> Lavwere:  I don't know.  Can someone help this poor user?
[08:37] <pokoko> PirateHead, you need atheros driver right ?
[08:37] <zani> hey duds when i activate beryl the back of my gnome terminal does not get "real" transparency...does anybody know what may be going on?
[08:37] <vox754> !rar > holotone
[08:37] <PirateHead> pokoko: correct.
[08:37] <bulmer> Noiano: then you can ask arp to re-register itself
[08:37] <linxx> how can i edit a configuration file using the terminal
[08:37] <Noiano> bulmer: how?
[08:38] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: thanks for caring
[08:38] <linxx> please help because i changed xorg.conf and messed up my monitor
[08:38] <vox754> PirateHead, as you see, you need that module also for the newer kernel
[08:38] <PirateHead> linxx: use nano
[08:38] <osiris_> linxx, !nano
[08:38] <osiris_> lol
[08:38] <PirateHead> linxx: if the config file is owned by root, use sudo nano
[08:38] <linxx> so nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[08:38] <holotone> vox754: thanks!
[08:38] <bulmer> Noiano: i have not used it in such a way before, so maybe you can man arp
[08:38] <Lavwere> I get "The file u/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly." as answer to "sudo grub-install --root-directory=u /dev/sda1", where u is /dev/sda, which is the EFI partition
[08:38] <Noiano> bulmer: thanks....
[08:38] <osiris_> linxx, Sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:38] <FreonTrip> I'd like to learn about others' experiences with 3D desktop compositing.
[08:38] <pokoko> PirateHead, wait up
[08:38] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: do you know if there is a channel for Ubuntu on apple hardware?
[08:39] <linxx> ok that's awesome and how do i save it
[08:39] <osiris_> ctrl + o
[08:39] <FreonTrip> Lavwere:  PPC or x86?
[08:39] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: x86, imac 20"
[08:39] <linxx> i messede up my monitor driver's ID and ineed to change it back and save the xorg file so i can see again
[08:39] <FreonTrip> Lavwere:  Let me check for you.
[08:39] <linxx> so how do i save
[08:39] <PirateHead> pokoko: there is also a madwifi folder in my new kernel folder, but it is empty. There are no .ko files in it.
[08:39] <linxx> what's the command once i've edited it
[08:39] <osiris_> linxx, Ctrl and o
[08:39] <holotone> actually, it looks like that how-to is only for .rar files. My problem is with multi-part rar files (ie. foo.r00, foo.r01, etc...)
[08:39] <PirateHead> vox754: I think you are on the right track here. =D
[08:39] <linxx> wow thank you so much
[08:39] <osiris_> linxx, No problem
[08:40] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: thanks.
[08:41] <Seb1> does Ndiswrapper come with the default ubuntu installation?
[08:41] <PirateHead> vox754, pokoko: should I try compiling madwifi from source, or should I try copying the .ko files from the old kernel?
[08:41] <pokoko> PirateHead, look there -> /lib/modules/2.6.<your_current_kernel>/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[08:41] <FreonTrip> Lavwere:  Not finding terribly much; you may want to take a quick poke through the Ubuntu forums.  I'll also look into grub diagnostics really fast.
[08:41] <vox754> PirateHead, usually when you get something from source it gets compiled against specific kernel headers, so the modules get correctly installed. I would say you need to do exactly what you did in the first place to get your card working, or maybe just copying the .ko will solve it.
[08:41] <pokoko> PirateHead, you could do that
[08:42] <PirateHead> Seb1: it does not.
[08:42] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: ok, I'm searching the forums now
[08:42] <pokoko> vox754, true but just trying luck. because the compiled kernel can be same.
[08:42] <zebras> I'm having some load issues with a new install of 6.10 amd64, it seems the 1gig of ram is being used as is swap yet a top ordered by memory the res column only adds up to a few hundred meg.  Any help with what is using the resource - top at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15836/
[08:42] <vox754> Seb1, PirateHead I think it is included ndiswrapper, but not installed by default
[08:42] <sorcerer> umm guys i connected my usb camera into my computer how do opedn it to view the pictures inside and copy them over i dont see it mounted ?
[08:43] <Seb1> hmm, so how can i install it?
[08:43] <PirateHead> sorcerer: does the gthumb importer come up? Make sure your camera is turned on, of course.
[08:43] <Bost> guys do you know how to open a port on remote machine through ssh?
[08:43] <knapp> Is there a command to change the screen resolution from the terminal?
[08:44] <pokoko> Bost, ssh remot_user@remotemachine
[08:44] <vox754> Seb1, it is better if you could tell which card you use. There may be a native linux driver so you wouldn't need ndiswrapper
[08:44] <bulmer> Bost: you have access to the remote machine to open a port
[08:44] <pokoko> Bost, that will get you access to remote machine through ssh if everything is correctly installed
[08:44] <sorcerer> umm its l like in a cradle
[08:44] <sorcerer> and its pluged in '
[08:44] <sorcerer> nothing shows up
[08:45] <pokoko> sorcerer, is it usb ?
[08:45] <bulmer> sorcerer: it has a memory in it?
[08:45] <Bost> bulmer: pokoko yea I have ssh connection (port 22) but I need to open 5901 for vnc
[08:45] <linxx> osiris, i owe you alot man.  Thanks again.  worked and now my monitor is back! : )
[08:45] <sorcerer> yup
[08:45] <sorcerer> yup
[08:45] <vox754> zebras, don't use the 64 bit distribution for desktop, the 32 bit is fine
[08:45] <sorcerer> its my gf camera .. i wanna import some pics
[08:45] <Seb1> I'm trying to follow the forums guide "HOWTO: Dell Inspiron E1505 Wireless (Broadcom 1390 WLAN)" but my problem is without WLan I don't have a direct internet connection
[08:45] <pokoko> sorcerer, "lsusb" please and see that your camera device shows up
[08:45] <sorcerer> its a sony cybershot if that helps
[08:45] <pokoko> Bost, don't know about vnc
[08:45] <bulmer> Bost: does the remote have a firewall? you proly need to open it for that
[08:46] <sorcerer> pokoko: lsusb in the terminal
[08:46] <bulmer> Bost: or you can try tunnelling through
[08:46] <pokoko> sorcerer, yes
[08:46] <Bost> bulmer: yea the remote HAS firewall and I need to open it but I dunno the command for it
[08:46] <zebras> vox754 it is a server, dual core opteron - just an internal www development one.
[08:46] <vox754> zebras, you are the man then
[08:47] <bulmer> Bost tell you what, i have been using nxclient, it is very nice, and it requires ssh enabled as minimum
[08:47] <b14ck73425> okay i just added a hard drive and i cant write to it and it wont let me change permissions
[08:47] <FreonTrip> Lavwere:  Do you have any reason to believe that Grub didn't install?
[08:47] <bulmer> Bost you can download the nx client free
[08:47] <sontek> Whats a console bandwidth monitor?
[08:47] <Powerking89670> a bandwith monitor thats displayed on the console :p
[08:47] <zebras> vox754 - am struggling to see the performance issue, any pointers?
[08:47] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: the page http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/UbuntuOnApple reccommends that step, as needed
[08:48] <Powerking89670> or a monitor for console bandwith
[08:48] <Bost> bulmer: I think Im goint to test the nxclient....
[08:48] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: I did "Dual Boot (GPT option) - simple"
[08:48] <sorcerer> pokoko: is what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15837/
[08:48] <vox754> zebras, I've heard that Linux does use a lot of memory but that is actually a good thing. Type "free -m" and see how much memory is in use.
[08:48] <sorcerer> when i did a lsusb
[08:48] <neozen> meep
[08:49] <bulmer> Bost: yes try it, anyhow if you do want to compare it to remoting X..you can try  ssh -C -X -l yourloginame ipofremote
[08:49] <sorcerer> i dont see umm my camera /...
[08:49] <pokoko> sorcerer, that means your usb camera is not recognized
[08:49] <sorcerer> so i cant use it on my system
[08:49] <sorcerer> ?
[08:49] <bulmer> and off course you need to add the ipofremote to your local DISPLAY
[08:49] <pokoko> sorcerer, no don't give hope
[08:49] <b14ck73425> hard drive issues can anyone help?
[08:49] <pokoko> sorcerer, what's the exact make of the camera.
[08:49] <zebras> from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15836/ 985meg from 1 gig is being used, the processes there only add up to a few hundred though so don't know where the rest is going
[08:49] <pokoko> !ask
[08:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:49] <sorcerer> hold on
[08:49] <Powerking89670> well im gonna close this window, its sorta in my way...ill be back with some other stupid easy to find question....you just wait :p
[08:50] <FreonTrip> Lavwere:  I don't really foresee any problems, though I wish a friend of mine were online; he dual-boots OS X and Ubuntu on an original black G3 Powerbook, so if anyone's used to dealing with Mac quirks it's probably him.
[08:50] <neozen> Powerking89670: kk
[08:50] <b14ck73425> can anyone help me with my hard drive
[08:50] <Powerking89670> have a good day
[08:50] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: I can wait, will he be up anytime soon?
[08:50] <bulmer> b14ck73425: to fill it? or what?
[08:50] <pokoko> heh
[08:50] <sorcerer> sony cybershot model no. dsc-t1
[08:50] <Seb1> (How) can I install ndiswrapper without a internet connection in linux?
[08:51] <b14ck73425> well i added a second hard drive and its mounted but i cant write to it
[08:51] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: may I query you and paste a little output of grub? I think I succeeded.
[08:51] <Linuxnewbie756> on my desktop i have a lot of folders, each with a lot of .rst files, i want to rename them to .txt files, how can i do this?
[08:51] <neozen> Seb1: if I get you a deb package... would that be sufficient?
[08:51] <vox754> zebras, I think everybody is in the same situation, I have 449 MB and 440 are in use, but they are cached or something, basically it means that memory can be used quickly to those applications that really need it. I wouldn't worry.
[08:51] <bulmer> b14ck73425: brand new drive? btw can you prefix your responses with the nick so it cant be missed?
[08:51] <Lavwere> /QUERY FreonTrip
[08:51] <alex_> pokoko: I installed the app but when I run javaws filename.jar I get a window saying "java loading" and then it disapear and nothing happens
[08:51] <Lavwere> silly gaim.
[08:52] <FreonTrip> Lavwere:  By all means.
[08:52] <zebras> vox754 - thanks
[08:52] <Seb1> neozen: I guess, I'm new in linux but that sounds good
[08:52] <FreonTrip> I should mention I'm a raging IRC n00b.
[08:52] <neozen> Seb1: best way is to download a deb package and sneaker-net it over to the box and then install via dpkg
[08:52] <b14ck73425> bulmer, i got it from a friend and its already formated with extended 3
[08:52] <mboyd> clear
[08:52] <pokoko> alex_, java -jar filename.jar
[08:52] <FreonTrip> Somehow I've been online for nearly ten years and never learned how to use this beyond simple text transmission...
[08:52] <bulmer> b14ck73425: you were mounting it as root right?
[08:53] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: gaim crashed on paste, hehe...
[08:53] <vox754> zebras, I remember reading it somewhere in the ubuntu forums, that then redirected to another Gentoo forum
[08:53] <neozen> Seb1: package can probably be snagged from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:53] <b14ck73425> bulmer, i just went to the administration menu > disks
[08:53] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: I'll use a web service
[08:53] <FreonTrip> Lavwere:  Jesus, that's hilarious.  Send a copy to freontrip@gmail.com
[08:53] <FreonTrip> Yeah, or that.
[08:53] <illu45> Hello. Is there someone who could someone help me out with a sound issue please?
[08:53] <FreonTrip> illu45:  What's the issue?
[08:53] <sorcerer> pokoko:  is there a way to get the camera to recodnize it
[08:53] <neozen> Seb1: pick your proper version of ubuntu
[08:53] <pokoko> sorcerer, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=471181
[08:53] <daxxar> Hi. :-)
[08:53] <pokoko> google magic
[08:53] <nicolasito> hello, I want to mount my cdrom in ubuntu, I inserted a CD, and mounted it, but it says that /dev/hdc dont exists
[08:54] <neozen> Seb1: you have a usb drive yes?
[08:54] <illu45> FreonTrip, I've got a SB Audigy2 ZS card, and the sound used to work fine, but when I booted up today it was just gone.
[08:54] <neozen> Seb1: that'd be the easiest way to set it up
[08:54] <FreonTrip> illu45:  Now that sounds like fun.  Are you dual-booting, perchance?
[08:54] <illu45> With windows, yes
[08:54] <Seb1> yeah, i got a usb flash
[08:54] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15841/
[08:54] <Seb1> i think i found the download, thx
[08:55] <neozen> Seb1: no problem... glad to help
[08:55] <alex_> pokoko: am I to uninstall the old app?
[08:55] <tbuss> reep: you around?
[08:55] <neozen> Seb1: hopefully that package doesn't require other things
[08:55] <daxxar> I'm trying to partition a large RAID array (10TB) and I can't partition it using cfdisk ("FATAL ERROR: Cannot get disk size"), and dmesg says "sdb : very big device. try to use READ CAPACITY(16).". What should I look at?
[08:55] <pokoko> alex_, no. you wanted to run that .jar file right ?
[08:55] <pokoko> alex_, and now you have sun's java right ?
[08:55] <pokoko> alex_, so just "java -jar filename.jar".
[08:55] <vox754> zebras, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398712&page=2&highlight=a+lot+memory+used
[08:55] <neozen> Seb1: if it does... you're going to want to make sure your box either already has those packages installed... or grab those packages as well
[08:56] <blizz> hi.
[08:56] <nicolasito> hello, I want to mount my cdrom in ubuntu, I inserted a CD, and mounted it, but it says that /dev/hdc dont exists
[08:56] <neozen> hoallo bliz
[08:56] <Xanthus35> request dual boot url for ubuntu
[08:56] <FreonTrip> Lavwere:  AFAIK that looks all right.  I'm more of a LILO guy than a Grub authority, though. :-\
[08:56] <Shafto> !dualboot
[08:56] <blizz> is it possible to build unsatisfied dependencies which have been discovered by `dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot` with apt-get or aptitude?
[08:56] <neozen> nicolasito: we heard you the first time
[08:56] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:56] <ferret_0568> How do I set up nm-applet so that I don't have to type my keyring password to get on wireless networks?
[08:56] <blizz> i want to build my own vlc package
[08:56] <pokoko> nicolasito, this is normal. is your cd accessible ?
[08:56] <pokoko> blizz, download vlc
[08:56] <pokoko> !vlc
[08:56] <neozen> nicolasito: are you sure that your cdrom is /dev/hdc?
[08:56] <Lavwere> FreonTrip: ok, I hope macos will still boot, no traces of its partition in menu.lst
[08:56] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:56] <illu45> FreonTrip, I'm dual-booting with Windows, yes... the odd thing is that if I turn up the sound, I don't hear any static. The PC Speaker works, though
[08:56] <neozen> blizz: awesome
[08:56] <pokoko> blizz, i assume you can get .deb package somewhere
[08:57] <blizz> pokoko, i need faac support
[08:57] <blizz> no debian/ubuntu package has faac support compiled in.
[08:57] <pokoko> blizz, then get libflac from synaptic
[08:57] <neozen> blizz: there you go....
[08:57] <daxxar> Ah, nevermind. parted and a gpt-type partition table saved me. :)
[08:57] <ferret_0568> Don't forget MPD with a controller, ubotu ;)
[08:57] <catid> is there anything like Turbotax for linux?
[08:57] <blizz> not flac, it's AAC
[08:57] <pokoko> !codecs
[08:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:57] <Lavwere> daxxar: using ubuntu on apple hardware?
[08:57] <neozen> blizz: I think that's part of a52
[08:58] <nicolasito> Often it mounts auto, but few times (I use UBUNTU with GTK) it doesnt mount it, and in the terminal it says that no /dev/hdc, nor hdd, nor hdb (hda for the hard drive)
[08:58] <kingofpartitions> I got an partition that i need to mouint, aparently and to access. the partition is at the same hardisk i got to ubuntu, and its of SATA type. I can see the partition (the disk icon) and when i open it theres 1 folder named lost+found, but no files inside. the partition (ntfs) should be fild up with files.
[08:58] <neozen> blizz: which vlc should have native support for
[08:58] <b14ck73425> bulmer: you still there
[08:58] <aa^way> what is command for getting Flash into ubuntu
[08:58] <neozen> blizz: at least... the version in the repos should
[08:58] <arrenlex> I have two sound cards (I only use one). Can someone set me up with a guide about getting aoss and dmix working on it?
[08:58] <truvisionary> how do you make it so the the changes made to gconf actually stay there?
[08:58] <alex_> pokoko: I ment to uninstall the gcj version. I just did and now the app is runing
[08:58] <kingofpartitions> ive used automatix to install a package that mounted automaticaly the partitions. but as i said i cant see/ the files., exept for that one folder.
[08:58] <neozen> aa^way: sudo aptitude install flashplayer-nonfree
[08:59] <tbuss> I'm trying to configure gallery2 with apache2 I have success on apach2php4/mysql but after I install and configure I cannot connect to http://localhost/gallery2
[08:59] <pokoko> alex_, ok cool. atlesat it's running ;) goodluck
[08:59] <blizz> neozen, honestly, i tried it. i told vlc to encode an audio stream as aac or mpeg4a. it said that AAC isnt available because it hasnt been there at compile time. other ubuntu users reported exactly the same in the vlc forums
[08:59] <neozen> hmm
[08:59] <alex_> thanks
[08:59] <neozen> blizz: are you compiling from source?
[08:59] <Asulackalickum> I need help installing Ubuntu. It's all confusing during the installation
[08:59] <b14ck73425> can somebody tell me how to change the permissions of a file that belongs to root
[08:59] <neozen> blizz: which version of *ubuntu are you running
[08:59] <blizz> yes, i have to. already downlaoded the sources and patched it with the ubuntu/debian diff available at packages.ubuntu.com
[09:00] <blizz> FF latest
[09:00] <neozen> blizz: ahh.... feisty support isn't here yet I think
[09:00] <Buckminster> Hi #ubuntu
[09:00] <digitalhav0c> Hey guys what can use to connect my laptop running ubuntu to my desktop running windows xp i want to be able to access my usb harddrive connected to the desktop?
[09:00] <neozen> blizz: might still be in #ubuntu+1
[09:00] <pokoko> b14ck73425, become root (su -) OR use "sudo chown <normal_user> filename_to_change"
[09:00] <neozen> digitalhav0c: um... ok
[09:00] <Bost> guys do you know how to open a port on a remote machine? I have ssh connection to the remote
[09:01] <FreonTrip> Lavwere:  So long as one of them still boots you can fix it.
[09:01] <pokoko> !mount | DigitalDeviant
[09:01] <ubotu> DigitalDeviant: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:01] <pokoko> !mount | digitalhav0c
[09:01] <ubotu> digitalhav0c: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:01] <pokoko> oops
[09:01] <b14ck73425> pokoko: in terminal though what do i type
[09:01] <neozen> digitalhav0c: you need to share the drive on the desktop
[09:01] <Bost> bulmer: seems like nxclient is not in ubuntu distro
[09:01] <daisuke> !kvm
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <digitalhav0c> neozen, samba?
[09:01] <neozen> digitalhav0c: yeah
[09:01] <digitalhav0c> !samba
[09:01] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:01] <DarkSpirit> Can you do SendTo Desktop as Shortcut in Ubuntu ?
[09:01] <tony_ubuntu_newb> I need help with hardware (floppy disk). Edgy doesn't see it.
[09:02] <pokoko> b14ck73425, type "sudo chown <normal_user> filename"
[09:02] <daxxar> Lavwere: Nope, why?
[09:02] <neozen> digitalhavoc: that's one way
[09:02] <pokoko> tony_ubuntu_newb, i don't use floopy. they are dead
[09:02] <pokoko> heh
[09:02] <pokoko> :)
[09:02] <Lavwere> daxxar: you mentioned gpt-table so I wondered, nevermind
[09:02] <FreonTrip> pokoko:  Not so dead as you imagine.
[09:02] <klick> Hey all, does anyone know how to disable the google search engine bar in firefox 2.0.0.3? The only way to get rid of it as far as i can tell is to disable the navigation bar, but i wan the address bar, just not the google search engine embedded into it?
[09:02] <pokoko> FreonTrip, heh
[09:02] <pokoko> nevermind.
[09:02] <ferret_0568> Yeah, floppies are dead
[09:02] <daxxar> Lavwere: As I understand it, it's required for big disks :)
[09:02] <tony_ubuntu_newb> I need my floppy to flash my BIOS.
[09:03] <ferret_0568> Oh
[09:03] <neozen> digitalhavoc: other way is to stick an ftp server on the desktop... create an account that can access the usb drive.... and then connect to the desktop from your laptop's ftp client
[09:03] <Lavwere> well ok, thanks FreonTrip, I think I'll try rebooting finally
[09:03] <ferret_0568> What was your problem again?
[09:03] <FreonTrip> klick:  Right-click the address bar, go to configure, and literally drag 'n' drop the offending search bar into the window that pops up.
[09:03] <neozen> digitalhavoc: that's how I did it over here
[09:03] <neozen> digitalhavoc: hell of a lot easier if you ask me
[09:03] <ferret_0568> What problem are you having with the floppy?
[09:04] <Lavwere> bye
[09:04] <neozen> digitalhavoc: downside is that the drive isn't actually mounted on your filesystem
[09:04] <digitalhav0c> neozen, i wanted something transparent
[09:04] <nicolasito> neozen Often it mounts auto, but few times (I use UBUNTU with GTK) it doesnt mount it, and in the terminal it says that no /dev/hdc, nor hdd, nor hdb (hda for the hard drive)
[09:04] <david_> hello i have some b0rked ram, is there any thing in the ubuntu respiratory which can avoid the bad memory blocks
[09:04] <FreonTrip> Lavwere:  Bye!  Good luck!
[09:04] <pokoko> tony_ubuntu_newb, direct your question to ferret_0568
[09:04] <Lavwere> Thanks again! (:
[09:04] <neozen> digitalhavoc: then you're probably going to have to use samba
[09:04] <digitalhav0c> yeah
[09:04] <neozen> digitalhavoc: sorry
[09:04] <arrenlex> !kernel-patch-badram | david_
[09:04] <FreonTrip> david_:  Is there still a bad RAM kernel patch?
[09:04] <arrenlex> !info kernel-patch-badram | david_
[09:04] <ubotu> david_: Package kernel-patch-badram does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[09:04] <FreonTrip> Thanks arrenlex.
[09:04] <klick> FreonTrip, thanks
[09:04] <arrenlex> Ugh.
[09:04] <digitalhav0c> neozen, the destop runs ubuntu sometimes also
[09:04] <arrenlex> Wait.
[09:05] <digitalhav0c> what can i use to network them when using ubuntu on both
[09:05] <tony_ubuntu_newb> ferret_0568, I can boot from it, Its in Computer (twice) but I can't open it or read/write to it.
[09:05] <digitalhav0c> !nfs
[09:05] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:05] <arrenlex> david_: Nevermind, that package only exists in Debian.
[09:05] <neozen> digitalhavoc: well... then you'll have to stick a samba server on the desktop ubuntu as well
[09:05] <FreonTrip> !slackware
[09:05] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[09:05] <dave_> can anyone help me? for some reason my desktop has stopped working. ie: no icons, wallpaper, etc... but i havent done anything. it has been running a bit slow today tho
[09:05] <ferret_0568> I've never really messed with floppy
[09:05] <david_> hmmm
[09:05] <ferret_0568> You could ask on #linux] 
[09:05] <neozen> digitalhavoc: you should be able to get away with just having the client on the laptop
[09:05] <digitalhav0c> neozen, ok thanks
[09:05] <david_> where can i get it then
[09:05] <`Matir> Is it possible for memtest86+ to not find any errors in memory, and yet the memory still be bad?
[09:06] <david_> could i use the debian resp
[09:06] <ferret_0568> #linux and #ubuntu are great!
[09:06] <thetechgeek> NEED HELP!!!
[09:06] <PirateHead> #ubuntu is the 1337357 tho
[09:06] <neozen> thetechgeek: ok.....
[09:06] <PirateHead> !omg | thetechgeek
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about omg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <chowmeined> `Matir: if they are in the first few KB that memtest86+ uses.. but it would probably segfault if it was
[09:06] <Pelo> thetechgeek, don't make us guess
[09:06] <FreonTrip> ferret_0568:  The floppy is a hatefully old standard that generally sits on the ISA bus, even on modern motherboards, and it is around solely because no one has gone to the trouble to properly kill it off.
[09:06] <thetechgeek> my disk is all f***** up!
[09:06] <neozen> thetechgeek: state your problem please or begone
[09:06] <FreonTrip> Consequently, it is still sometimes necessary to lean upon one.
[09:06] <bazanime> i need help please with uninstalling ubuntu on a dual boot with vista premium. How do i do it?
[09:06] <PirateHead> thetechgeek: just restore to backups. ... You have backups, right?
[09:07] <FreonTrip> neozen:  He's working on it. :P
[09:07] <Pelo> thetechgeek,   go to the forum and search for  f**** disk
[09:07] <neozen> thetechgeek: um.... you're going to need to be more specific...
[09:07] <FreonTrip> bazanime:  You are insane, but it can certainly be done.
[09:07] <ferret_0568> ASUS motherboards support USB Mass Storage Flashing
[09:07] <dave_> can anyone help me? for some reason my desktop has stopped working. ie: no icons, wallpaper, etc... but i havent done anything. it has been running a bit slow today tho
[09:07] <thetechgeek> okay how do i restore to backups?
[09:07] <`Matir> chowmeined, ahh.. i have a computer that won't even load the livecd (kernel oops).  It occasionally freezes during bios memory check as well
[09:07] <`Matir> thetechgeek, in what way did you create the backups?
[09:07] <neozen> ferret_0568: wait a minute.... asus did something right?
[09:07] <ferret_0568> Yes
[09:07] <bazanime> how
[09:07] <thetechgeek> define backups
[09:07] <chowmeined> `Matir: does it always segfault in the same place?
[09:07] <bazanime> ?
[09:07] <bulmer> Bost: its something you can download, i believe Seveas site have it
[09:08] <chowmeined> `Matir: i mean oops.. does it always kernel oops in the same place?
[09:08] <aa^way> hey cant look YouTube with linux, any suggestions ? like apt-get flash-package or something
[09:08] <david_> dave_ what do you mean ?
[09:08] <ferret_0568> But, only them, as far as I know
[09:08] <arrenlex> !flash9 | aa^way
[09:08] <FreonTrip> bazanime:  In what order did you install them?
[09:08] <ubotu> aa^way: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:08] <`Matir> Chousuke, seems to, more or less... just after loading the squashfs driver
[09:08] <aa^way> !flash
[09:08] <`Matir> err, chowmeined ^^
[09:08] <penguin42> Since my last boot my bottom panel is only appearing on one workspace - anyone else seen that?
[09:08] <neozen> ferret_0568: now if they would fix their quality control problems ... they would rock
[09:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:08] <thetechgeek> can I just put in the windows cd and fix stuff?
[09:08] <arrenlex> Wow... that was so useless.
[09:08] <dave_> david_ no icons, no wallpaper, that normally loasds on final boot up
[09:08] <thetechgeek> hello???
[09:08] <ferret_0568> Ah, ASUS is junk for Linux, I think
[09:08] <FreonTrip> thetechgeek:  Define "fix stuff."
[09:08] <PirateHead> !patience | thetechgeek
[09:08] <bazanime> i havent had any luck with ubuntu on my laptop and frankly i'm tired of searching forums, i have work to do.
[09:08] <ubotu> thetechgeek: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:09] <arrenlex> !flashplugin-nonfree | aa^way
[09:09] <neozen> ferret_0568: that's my experience thusfar as well
[09:09] <arrenlex> !info flashplugin-nonfree | aa^way
[09:09] <ubotu> aa^way: flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:09] <chowmeined> `Matir: have you tried memtest86 vs memtest86+?
[09:09] <bazanime> so please help me
[09:09] <bulmer> penguin42: you can always add a new workspace, right click on it and set the preferences
[09:09] <ferret_0568> Maybe ASUS P5B C2D motherboard, I dunno. What C2D motherboard should I get?
[09:09] <`Matir> chowmeined, yes, both complete a full pass with no errors
[09:09] <chowmeined> `Matir: have you used any other OS on this machine? and does it work?
[09:09] <penguin42> bulmer: Right click on where exactly?
[09:09] <FreonTrip> bazanime:  In what order did you install the operating systems?
[09:09] <david_> dave_: try setting it again if you can probably easiest
[09:09] <bulmer> penguin42: on the box itself
[09:09] <bazanime> i want to uninstall ubuntu and be left with vista
[09:09] <Pelo> thetechgeek,  if you want us to help you you need to start asking smart questions and make statements we can understand,   now what happened to your computer,  what were you doing and what makes you think you screwed up ?
[09:09] <`Matir> chowmeined, it used to have WinXP on it, which worked, but occasionally locked up (but that could just be windows)
[09:09] <penguin42> bulmer: Sorry to be thick - which box
[09:10] <neozen> thetechgeek: you have to be patient here mon.... we hear you.. and are interested in helping.... there are a lot of people here who also need help
[09:10] <FreonTrip> bazanime:  I understand that.  Did you install Ubuntu after Vista was installed?
[09:10] <dave_> david_ setting it? what do you mean by that
[09:10] <thetechgeek> I have norton antivirus goback and when it tries to start it says "disk inconsistent with norton header files"?
[09:10] <ferret_0568> I have been suggested: a Gigabyte 965P-DS3 b. a NVIDIA 680i based motherboard
[09:10] <PirateHead> bazanime: it sucks that you have to spend time adminstering your computer instead of doing work. Have you tried Windows? It allows hackers to do the administering for you over these neat social networks called "botnets".
[09:10] <bulmer> penguin42: your workbox or workspace
[09:10] <chowmeined> `Matir: is it overheating? what do the temp sensors say in the BIOS?
[09:10] <david_> dave_: simply set new desktop wallpaper drag icons etc
[09:10] <`Matir> chowmeined, they show 41 deg. C
[09:10] <aa^way> hey i got flashplugin-nonfree, thanks, but w hats next, how i conf for Mozilla it?
[09:10] <ferret_0568> lol PirateHead
[09:10] <penguin42> bulmer: Well I have 9 workspaces - if I right click on the workspace switcher I don't see anything relevant in the preferences
[09:10] <bulmer> lol
[09:10] <thetechgeek> Okay, basically wondows woont start
[09:10] <neozen> aa^way: that's the great part... you don't have to
[09:10] <chowmeined> `Matir: do you have any spare compatible RAM you can put in just to test?
[09:11] <bazanime> yes i did freon
[09:11] <dave_> david_ no menu as was when you right click
[09:11] <Renu23> hello
[09:11] <bulmer> penguin42: i thought you said after boot you only have one?
[09:11] <FreonTrip> bazanime:  What's the disk layout like?
[09:11] <ferret_0568> Yeah, while they are *administering*, they are stealing your files
[09:11] <PirateHead> bazanime: to be honest, the best way to delete Ubuntu is to delete the partition that it is on. Using an Ubuntu LiveCD, you can use GParted... or you can boot up Vista and find a partition manager that will do the job.
[09:11] <neozen> aa^way: if you installed via synaptic, aptitude, or apt-get, its fully installed... just restart firefox
[09:11] <`Matir> chowmeined, I have another system I could temporarily take down and pull the RAM from... I'll try that now
[09:11] <FreonTrip> PirateHead:  Well said.
[09:11] <thetechgeek> if i put in the windows cd and reinstall, will my drive be fixed??
[09:11] <Pelo> thetechgeek,  did yo try to install ubuntu on a hdd with windows on it and now you can't get into windows ?
[09:11] <penguin42> bulmer: No, I have all 9 workspaces - it's that the bottom panel is only appearing on the 1st one
[09:11] <kapputu> just installed Feisty on my Thinkpad. I can see my windows network but I'm not being authenticated
[09:11] <Renu23> does anybody write with 2 wrieters in the same time?
[09:11] <thetechgeek> YES
[09:11] <Renu23> does anybody write with 2 writers in the same time?
[09:11] <aa^way> sudo apt-get flashplugin-nonfree
[09:12] <Pelo> thetechgeek,  ok now we are getting somewhere
[09:12] <david_> dave_: hmm, to be honest i dont really use gnome :-(
[09:12] <neozen> kapputu: what method of authentication are you using?
[09:12] <aa^way> it installed without probs
[09:12] <Pelo> thetechgeek,  is ubuntu working ?
[09:12] <FreonTrip> As for the bootloader, if Vista was the first OS installed then there's probably a backup of the Master Boot Loader from when it was the only thing living on the hard drive.
[09:12] <bazanime> i'm ignoring pirate head. i ddint come here for insults, i just wanted help
[09:12] <bulmer> penguin42: oh i mis-understood you..
[09:12] <ferret_0568> thetechgeek: do you have a caps lock key?
[09:12] <kingofpartitions> I got an partition that i need to mouint, aparently and to access. the partition is at the same hardisk i got to ubuntu, and its of SATA type. I can see the partition (the disk icon) and when i open it theres 1 folder named lost+found, but no files inside. the partition (ntfs) should be fild up with files.
[09:12] <kingofpartitions> ive used automatix to install a package that mounted automaticaly the partitions. but as i said i cant see/ the files., exept for that one folder.
[09:12] <chowmeined> `Matir: or if it has two sticks of ram.. take the one from the second slot and put it in the first
[09:12] <thetechgeek> i havnt completely installed ubuntu its on live cd
[09:12] <aa^way> but still same error
[09:12] <dave_> david_ its as if part of nautilus just isnt working cos my desktop is still in the folder but just not working
[09:12] <penguin42> bulmer: It's almost as if it is set to 'only on this workspace' but I can't see how you can get the window menu up for a panel
[09:12] <aa^way> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[09:12] <FreonTrip> (02:11:20 PM) PirateHead: bazanime: to be honest, the best way to delete Ubuntu is to delete the partition that it is on. Using an Ubuntu LiveCD, you can use GParted... or you can boot up Vista and find a partition manager that will do the job.
[09:12] <lgc_> How does one log in to the channel?
[09:12] <kapputu> neozen: The Windows machine has an account for this ubuntu user.
[09:12] <hosk> anybody here really good at maya MEL scripting
[09:12] <FreonTrip> bazanime:  He actually did give you real advice there.
[09:12] <`Matir> chowmeined, that I've tried.. the system won't even POST with just stick2 in the first slot
[09:12] <Renu23> does anybody know howto write with 2 writters(same brand) in the same time?
[09:13] <neozen> kapputu: ok.....
[09:13] <dave_> anyone else, can you help fix my desktop. it isnt working. no icons, menu etc, no wallpaper
[09:13] <Pelo> thetechgeek,  did you ciick the  install iconi in the live cd ?  how far did you go before you stopped the installation ?
[09:13] <chowmeined> `Matir: and with just stick 1?
[09:13] <ferret_0568> What's a "writer"?
[09:13] <Pelo> and thetechgeek  use my nick so I know you are talking to me
[09:13] <penguin42> Renu23: From the command line I know you can use cdrecord and specify the device
[09:13] <Renu23> dvdwriter
[09:13] <neozen> kapputu: are you trying to access a share on the windows machine or actually log into the windows machine?
[09:13] <FreonTrip> dvdrecord, then.
[09:13] <bulmer> penguin42: go to the 1st one, and right click, and set the preferences
[09:13] <`Matir> chowmeined, same behavior as with both 1 and 2
[09:13] <neozen> kapputu: do you have anything crazy like smart-cards turned on or something?
[09:13] <aa^way> reinstalling flashplugin gives me "flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[09:13] <aa^way> "
[09:14] <chowmeined> `Matir: it just freezes sometimes and kernel oopses? .. if you have a spare computer you could try putting stick1 in slot2 of that other computer.. and then running memtest
[09:14] <neozen> kapputu: on the windows box
[09:14] <dave_> anyone else, can you help fix my desktop. it isnt working. no icons, menu etc, no wallpaper. using 6.06lts
[09:14] <bulmer> penguin42: says about select switcher
[09:14] <aa^way> so i got that plugin, just not working eh
[09:14] <illu45> FreonTrip, I booted into windows just now, and the sound works fine, no luck with uby, though :(
[09:14] <neozen> aa^way: restart firefox
[09:14] <aa^way> i did
[09:14] <kapputu> neozen: nope. It ain't accepting my username/password. I'm still using the live cd. Does that matter?
[09:14] <neozen> aa^way: close all firefox windows
[09:14] <Renu23> penguin24 how from command line?
[09:14] <FreonTrip> illu45:  Weirdness.  I'm not entirely sure how to figure that one out.
[09:14] <bulmer> dave_: can you re-install?
[09:14] <FreonTrip> bazanime:  Any luck?
[09:14] <kapputu> neozen: Also, I've connected using Edgy before though I've had to configure Samba by hand
[09:14] <bazanime> i cam delete the partition ubuntu uses from inside vista, but i'm afraid the mbr would be curupt
[09:14] <thetechgeek> pelo- it got to where it was putting stuff on my disk and then it stopped bcuz it got an error
[09:14] <sak2007> hi all
[09:14] <FreonTrip> Hiya, sak2007.
[09:14] <neozen> kapputu: aaah... you're trying to use samba
[09:15] <PirateHead> neozen: you shouldn't have a username or password when using the LiveCD. It should boot straight to the desktop without having you login.
[09:15] <penguin42> bulmer: in 'workspace switcher' preferences I see 'Switcher: Show only the current workspace and show all workspaces in n rows' and 'workspaces number of workspaces and workspace names' but nothing on what to do with the panel
[09:15] <neozen> kapputu: didn't see the response
[09:15] <Pelo> thetechgeek,  how many hdd do you have on your computer ?
[09:15] <thetechgeek> the error was that it found an uncorrected error
[09:15] <dave_> bulmer yes i can  but dont really want to at the mo..... cant be arsed faffing setting things the way i want them aint got time at the mo
[09:15] <thetechgeek> one disk
[09:15] <Linuxnewbie756> in a folder i have around 600 .rst files that i want renamed to .tab files, how can i do this quickly?
[09:15] <penguin42> bulmer: In Panel properties I see 'Orientiation' and 'size' with expand/autohide/show hide buttons
[09:15] <thetechgeek> wait-wats hdd
[09:15] <kapputu> neozen: yeah, Feisty apparently comes with Samba by default which is very cool
[09:15] <hosk> hard disk drive
[09:15] <Renu23> does anybody know howto write with 2 dvdwritters(same brand) in the same time?
[09:15] <`Matir> chowmeined, i'll try swapping the ram into this one first and see if it improves and then try that
[09:15] <neozen> PirateHead: he's talking about attempting to access a remote samba share
[09:15] <dave_> bulmer just need nautilus to work prperly that sets the destiop background etc and icons does it?
[09:15] <Renu23> does anybody know howto burn with 2 dvdwritters(same brand) in the same time?
[09:15] <Pelo> thetechgeek,  keep using my nick in each statement please,   now did you resize your windows partition before proceeding with the ubuntu installation ?
[09:16] <PirateHead> neozen: heh. Sorry for not reading before responding.
[09:16] <thetechgeek> gparted
[09:16] <thetechgeek> pelo
[09:16] <aa^way> neozen, yeah its not working, i dont get it :
[09:16] <Pelo> thetechgeek,  so you did resize the window partition ?
[09:16] <bulmer> dave_: am not sure its only nautilus doing that, i think its the windows manager you select
[09:16] <aa^way> video.google.com and youtube.com arent
[09:16] <thetechgeek> pelo- yes.
[09:16] <neozen> aa^way: you're on a 64 bit architecture aren't you
[09:16] <kapputu> neozen: haven't had any problems with authentication before
[09:17] <kapputu> any changes to be done to smb.conf?
[09:17] <dave_> bulmer, ive tried re-installing gnome but didnt do owt
[09:17] <thetechgeek> pelo- i think it was the windows, the one i resized didnt have the boot flag
[09:17] <bazanime> i want to install ubuntu 7 beta isntead of 6.10
[09:17] <neozen> aa^way: flash doesn't work on 64 bit kernels
[09:17] <sgtmattbaker> I tried to run Frets on Fire and it said pygame.error couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:17] <aa^way> neozen where i can look it?
[09:17] <bulmer> dave__which desktop manager you have before gnome?
[09:17] <neozen> aa^way: what?
[09:17] <Seb1> do i have to install linux-headers manually?
[09:17] <aa^way> kernel version
[09:17] <PirateHead> Hah, what a change of heart for bazanime!
[09:17] <Pelo> thetechgeek,  how many partitions did you have on your hdd before you resized it ?
[09:18] <neozen> aa^way: where can you 'look' what?
[09:18] <dave_> bulmer it was and always has been on gmome
[09:18] <bazanime> what change of heart??
[09:18] <dave_> bulmer standard ubuntu setup
[09:18] <PirateHead> First he wants to wash his hands clean, now he wants to try the latest beta. But I'll forgive him. =D
[09:18] <bulmer> dave_: hang on. let me check my setup
[09:18] <aa^way> neozen i think im not 64 bit, i got really cheap computer lol
[09:18] <PirateHead> Oh dang, he un-ignored me.
[09:18] <Renu23> does anybody know howto burn with 2 dvdwritters(same brand) simultaneous?
[09:18] <b14ck73425> i need help changing the permissions on a folder
[09:18] <aa^way> and in windows i had working youtube and so on
[09:18] <neozen> aa^way: ah.....
[09:18] <thetechgeek> pelo- two, the smaller one w/ boot fat16(yeah this is old), larger ntfs, and about 7 meg unused
[09:18] <neozen> aa^way: you'd have a sticker that said 64bit on the computer
[09:18] <aa^way> no i dont, im pretty sure its not
[09:18] <neozen> aa^way: it would be prominently displayed
[09:19] <neozen> aa^way: you can also get to a terminal and cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:19] <kapputu> neozen: any ideas?
[09:19] <ferret_0568> aa^way: you can install the Flash Player, to get YouTube and such working
[09:19] <TotalNewb> anyone know why ubuntu keeps automatically changing my grub conf for me?.... to a setting that's wrong?
[09:19] <Pelo> thetechgeek, open gparted and try to flag your ntfs partition to boot,  see if that works,  if not , print this and follow carefully  http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
[09:19] <FreonTrip> bazanime:  OK, so you want to get rid of Ubuntu 6 and install Ubuntu 7 now?
[09:19] <neozen> aa^way: in any linux/unix box... that should tell you more info about your cpu then you ever wanted to know
[09:19] <Renu23> i have put 2 dvdwriter and ubuntu see them with the same name
[09:19] <woody_> hello
[09:19] <Renu23> how can i chamge this?
[09:20] <neozen> kapputu: no ideas actually
[09:20] <PirateHead> TotalNewb: I have to re-write my grub conf every time I install a new kernel. There was a recent kernel update -- if you upgraded to it, you will also have to rewrite your grub conf.
[09:20] <bazanime> your hate clouds your eyes piratehead. i want to clear out the ubuntu partition completely and start from afresh to install ubuntu 7 cos i heard it has better compatibility
[09:20] <aa^way> wow thnx
[09:20] <neozen> kapputu: other then perhaps a broken version of samba in feisty
[09:20] <b14ck73425> i need help changing the permissions on a folder
[09:20] <woody_> please i would like someone to help me get my nvidia driver to download and install on fiesty fawn
[09:20] <neozen> kapputu: that would suck though
[09:20] <kneeki> Why is it when I view a DVD in my Windows Box and use the 'Show all hidden files' option, I can see the hidden files on the disk, But in 'nix when I use that exact same option, I cannot view the files?
[09:20] <neozen> a question for the regs here
[09:20] <Pelo> Renu23,  it's notrealy the case,  open up gnomebaker and try to burn someting it will ask you to select the burner ,  the serial number should be different
[09:20] <neozen> does this room now support feisty?
[09:20] <retarded> hi any of you who could give me a little support with virtualbox ??
[09:20] <bazanime> but i dont want the MBR corupted
[09:20] <FreonTrip> woody_:  God, that's easy.
[09:20] <Pelo> neozen,  #ubuntu+1
[09:20] <multik> greeting channel
[09:20] <TotalNewb> Well, I haven't installed a new kernal, I just changed my menu.lst to the right setting, cause i wanted to enter windows for a second, and when i restarted it had already reverted to the old/wrong setting
[09:20] <woody_> im new to linux FreonTrip
[09:21] <neozen> thought so
[09:21] <woody_> FreonTrip: what should i do?
[09:21] <neozen> kapputu: head over to #ubuntu+1
[09:21] <Renu23> pelo it appears the same
[09:21] <FreonTrip> woody_:  Go to System, Administration, and Restricted Driver Manager.  That should give you the option of installing the driver, and once you do I think you have to reboot.
[09:21] <neozen> kapputu: they'd be able to help you
[09:21] <neozen> kapputu: this room doesn't officially support feisty .... yet
[09:21] <Pelo> Renu23,  did you buy two identical drives ?
[09:21] <PirateHead> bazanime: I suggest trying dist-upgrade, unless your 6.10 installation is especially broken. In any case, I don't recommend installing the beta, since the official version will be out in a week or two. But if you can't wait, it shouldn't be hard to reformat the old partition and install the beta.
[09:22] <neozen> kapputu: after feisty gets released on the 19th ... feisty support should be here as well
[09:22] <Renu23> yes
[09:22] <woody_> FreonTrip: I dont have the driver, i want to download it first
[09:22] <neozen> kapputu: sorry
[09:22] <bazanime> what is dist-upgrade?
[09:22] <sak2007> i have a problem with 3com 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] , i have ubuntu 6.10
[09:22] <Renu23> pelo what should i do?
[09:22] <nolimitsoya> bazanime, apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:22] <vimalg2> Can anyone tell me how advisable it would be to create a separate /home partition and mount it as /home for all of ubuntuu, debian and CentOS5(RHEL5 clone) at the same time...? Will there be conflicts in configuration files if use the latest distros? Feisty, Etch and CentOS5 respectively?
[09:23] <thetechgeek> pelo?
[09:23] <PirateHead> bazanime: dist-upgrade is an Ubuntu utility that upgrades an older distribution to a newer one, ie Dapper to Edgy or in your case Edgy to Feisty.
[09:23] <Pelo> Renu23,   ok,  you might want to try it this way,   put a cd in one,  so you can teill which it is,  then play around with the mount points  change the name in fstab and the one in /media ,  don't erase anything just comment out and make copies
[09:23] <FreonTrip> woody_:  The restricted driver manager will automatically find and install the files for your card. :)  The driver manager expects you to reboot; you could probably just get away with installing the driver through the Restricted Driver Manager, waiting until it says you're done, seeing it nag you to reboot, and then just closing it out and hitting ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X.
[09:23] <Pelo> thetechgeek,  what ?
[09:23] <nolimitsoya> vimalg2, could be, if you run diffrent versions of the same software on the diffrent os:es
[09:23] <thetechgeek> the ntfs is already flagged boot
[09:23] <Pelo> thetechgeek,  then perform the repair install of xp guide I gave you,  print it out
[09:23] <woody_> thanks man
[09:24] <Comrade-Sergei> !restricted
[09:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:24] <Renu23> pelo dont get it
[09:24] <thetechgeek> ok, ty
[09:24] <multik> I'd love to test out thin client connetion to LTSP server
[09:24] <en0x> hi i have a problem with installing mplayer, here is the error: http://wklej.org/id/e94bea8fd4
[09:24] <FreonTrip> woody_:  To keep things simply I recommend using the Restricted Driver Manager (I'll call it the RDM from now on) and rebooting after it's done its thing.
[09:24] <vimalg2> nolimitsoya: thank you. :-) but isn't it a common practice as i'm givent o understand among advanced users?
[09:24] <PirateHead> en0x: are you using Ubuntu?
[09:24] <retarded> did anyone manage to get usb devices to work in a vbox guest operating system ?? i get an exeption error.. usbfs settings .. and i cant seem to figure out what to do .. i did read in the forums . i did edit the /etc/group but cant find the /etc/fstab
[09:24] <penguin42> bulmer: Don't suppose you can suggest any other dialogues to try for my panel?
[09:25] <nolimitsoya> vimalg2, as i said, its not foolproof, but usualy works :)
[09:25] <xtknight> i have an SMB mount where i set "gid=smb" and didnt specify uid=.  my user is now in the "smb" group but he can not write to the SMB share folder.  i want anyone in "smb" to be able to do it.  how do i proceed?    the user is able to write using uid=user, but i would like to be able to use multiple users.
[09:25] <woody_> FreonTrip: okay :)
[09:25] <PirateHead> en0x: nevermind. I thought you said you had a problem installing Totem. =D
[09:25] <multik> Comrade-Sergei, ty po russkii govorish?
[09:25] <Pelo> Renu23,   /etc/fstab controls how your dvdburner are mounted and were,  it has a line for each of the devices,  figure out wich line is for which device and make a small change to the name of the mount point for that device so you can tell them appart
[09:25] <bazanime> no.... i cant even run my mouse in ubuntu. i cant access my external drive. i have very limited control. i want to get rid of it all as it was before the install. then and only then i'll be happy to try the beta, or wait for the official release
[09:25] <peepsalot> i want some software to help me set goals and deadlines and track progress, does anyone know of something like that?
[09:25] <neozen> enox: ooo... broken packages...
[09:25] <en0x> PirateHead: yes i'm using ubuntu
[09:25] <en0x> how to fix it?!
[09:25] <en0x> :>
[09:25] <PirateHead> !ru | multik
[09:25] <ubotu> multik:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:25] <hardcampa> peepsalot if you're using emacs then it's org
[09:25] <hardcampa> =)
[09:25] <vimalg2> nolimitsoya: thanks again
[09:25] <multik> peepsalot: I would like this software as well
[09:25] <penguin42> peepsalot: Do you want a full project planner with gant charts or something simpler?
[09:25] <PirateHead> multik: No clue whether that's right, was a stab in the dark.
[09:26] <woody_> FreonTrip: why can't i access my other partitions?
[09:26] <FreonTrip> bazanime:  I'd just use Windows until the full version of Feisty comes out, and worry about this then. :)
[09:26] <neozen> enox: did you do something crazy like a dist-upgrade from some ancient version... or install stuff via automatix or easyubuntu
[09:26] <sak2007> i have a problem with 3com 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] , i have ubuntu 6.10
[09:26] <FreonTrip> woody_:  That's a big question.  What are your other partitions?
[09:26] <neozen> enox: those have been known to break packages
[09:26] <neozen> sak2007: ok... what seems to be the problem?
[09:26] <multik> PirateHead: just wanted to talk to him, not get help from channel ;) Thanks anyway
[09:26] <pokoko> peepsalot, look for planner
[09:26] <penguin42> sak2007: What is it doing?
[09:26] <peepsalot> penguin42, this is just for me to get my life in order, so I don't need very full features
[09:26] <pokoko> !info planner
[09:26] <ubotu> planner: project management application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.14.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3044 kB, installed size 6716 kB
[09:26] <en0x> neozen: nope i just installed ubuntu and do apt-get update
[09:26] <neozen> sak2007: have you updated to the latest kernel?
[09:26] <hardcampa> peepsalot otherwise what you're looking for is generally called a PIM app
[09:26] <hardcampa> search for anything with PIM in it
[09:26] <neozen> enox: what version of ubuntu?
[09:26] <bazanime> i dont want to see the boot options when i restart. i want my computer to boot as normal
[09:27] <_orian> Could someone direct me to a web site that shows how one can connect two home computers via a wireless router?  Right now both my computers connect to the internet via a wireless router, but not to each other.
[09:27] <neozen> enox: you also have to apt-get upgrade
[09:27] <en0x> neozen: 6.10 edgy
[09:27] <penguin42> peepsalot: I'm not sure but I think the 'evolution' mail client that comes installed by default has a todo list
[09:27] <neozen> enox: apt-get update just updates lists of stuff in repos... upgrade actually upgrades the packages you have installed locally
[09:27] <multik> orian: what OS is on your boxes=
[09:27] <en0x> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:27] <_orian> edgy
[09:27] <nolimitsoya> penguin42, it does
[09:27] <Pelo> penguin42,  it does
[09:28] <en0x> after apt-get upgrade
[09:28] <sak2007> neozen: ubuntu dont fint the card,
[09:28] <multik> penguin42: any chance I can get my MS Outlook .pst file migrated to Evolution?
[09:28] <peepsalot> penguin42, well i would like something a little more than a todo list.  I want to set goals with deadlines otherwise I will procrastinate too much
[09:28] <penguin42> multik: I believe there are some tools to do that - try apt-cache search pst
[09:28] <multik> oh, ok
[09:28] <neozen> enox: stick the output of lspci in a pastebin
[09:28] <retarded> virtualbox anyone ???
[09:28] <benjamin_> can someone tell me a tool to edit pdf. I need to comment and mark text
[09:28] <peepsalot> retarded, what about it
[09:29] <neozen> en0x: and paste the link
[09:29] <neozen> !pastebin |enox
[09:29] <ubotu> enox: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:29] <retarded> i cant get usb devices to work .. im stuck on the fstab part
[09:29] <multik> benjamin: adobe acrobat pro
[09:29] <Pelo> benjamin_,  I think ou can do it with OOo but not sure
[09:29] <sak2007> neozen: so i have no connection with internet
[09:29] <penguin42> peepsalot: Hmm not sure, it's still worth looking at evolution to see if it has stuff for prioritising and putting dates on the todo stuff - I suspect it does
[09:29] <en0x> ok thx i fixed it
[09:29] <neozen> sak2007: aaaaah... wait... its you with the tornado
[09:29] <benjamin_> Pelo, I'll try
[09:29] <bazanime> nothing?
[09:29] <neozen> BAD BRAIN
[09:30] <sak2007> yes
[09:30] <neozen> sak2007: that sucks mon...
[09:30] <Pelo> later folks
[09:30] <xtknight> anyone know how mount gid= works?
[09:30] <neozen> sak2007: stick the output of lspci in a pastebin
[09:30] <neozen> !pastebin | sak2007
[09:30] <ubotu> sak2007: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:30] <jrib> xtknight: what do you mean?
[09:31] <xtknight> jrib: i have an SMB mount where i set "gid=smb" and didnt specify uid=.  my user is now in the "smb" group but he can not write to the SMB share folder.  i want anyone in "smb" to be able to do it.  how do i proceed?    the user is able to write using uid=user, but i would like to be able to use multiple users.
[09:31] <Comrade-Sergei> can i upgrade from breezy directly to feisty?
[09:31] <peepsalot> retarded, are you using the OSS version, or the binary install?  i think the open source version does not include USB support
[09:31] <bazanime> so frustrating
[09:31] <arrenlex> I have two sound cards (I only use one). Can someone set me up with a guide about getting aoss and dmix working on it?
[09:31] <retarded> peepsalot, i hzve the 1.3.8 binary installed
[09:31] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: no... I don't think so
[09:32] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: you have to go through all the distros between
[09:32] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen i have to step up to it?
[09:32] <Comrade-Sergei> aww
[09:32] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: yeha
[09:32] <peepsalot> retarded, and you have enabled USB in the VirtualBox options screen?
[09:32] <Comrade-Sergei> thats going to take like all week
[09:32] <jrib> xtknight: you have read https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html#windows-networking-clients ?
[09:32] <peepsalot> i think it might be off by default
[09:32] <retarded> peepsalot, yes and when i "mount an usb device" it gives me an error messages related to usbfs
[09:32] <xtknight> jrib, hrm trying to make a new samba wiki, actually
[09:32] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: if your home is split off from your root... just whack out your root and tell feisty where to find your home
[09:32] <benjamin_> multik, yes for sure. but i would be nice to use opensource
[09:33] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. whe i load americas army there is no sound, despite sound working elsewhere on my system. When launched via terminal it says "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy". Does this mean anything to anyone? Thanks
[09:33] <lgc_> Hello! How can I get the specs of my optical units from the command line?
[09:33] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen what?
[09:33] <xtknight> jrib, ill see if it mentions it
[09:33] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen i have no idea
[09:33] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen how can i tell
[09:33] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: get to a terminal
[09:33] <Comrade-Sergei> yep
[09:33] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: type df
[09:34] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: stick the output of that in a pastebin
[09:34] <Comrade-Sergei> and?
[09:34] <Comrade-Sergei> !pastebin
[09:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:34] <jrib> lgc_: does lshw do what you want?
[09:34] <bazanime> how do i reset the master boot record?
[09:34] <eck> bazanime: did you make a backup?
[09:34] <Renu23> it is posible to burn simultaneous 2 dvdimages in ubuntu?
[09:35] <bazanime> of what? not the MBR
[09:35] <Renu23> it is posible to burn simultaneous 2 iso in ubuntu?
[09:35] <eck> bazanime: then how do you expect to reset it?
[09:35] <IndyGunFreak> bazanime: when you say "restore".. what do you mean
[09:35] <IndyGunFreak> eck: i think he means restore, not reset
[09:35] <bulmer> Renu23: if you have two burners, perhaps its possible
[09:35] <lgc_> jrib, It does, thanks! Now let me check the plentiful output...
[09:36] <scottam> eck: i think a backup is automatically kept by grub in /boot and that if you use grub install /whereever it'll reisntall it there, but check to make sure you like the list of boot options in /boot/grub.conf?
[09:36] <IndyGunFreak> bazanime: what are you tyring to do, ?
[09:36] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: if there are separate lines for / and /home then your /home is on a separate partition (which it should be since it makes upgrades/system recoveries easier)
[09:36] <brainjangle> can anyone help with getting ati radeon 9200 working better?
[09:36] <bazanime> when i delete the partition that ubuntu resides on, will i still get the dual boot screen at boot up
[09:36] <jrib> lgc_: you can do lshw --class=SOMETHING_APPROPRIATE_THAT_I_DONT_KNOW   :)
[09:36] <bazanime> ?
[09:36] <Renu23> bulmer i tried with 2 burners but it takes about 1 hour
[09:36] <Renu23> why?
[09:36] <IndyGunFreak> bazanime: yes,
[09:36] <IndyGunFreak> bazanime: you need to clear the MBR.
[09:36] <bazanime> how do i stop that?
[09:36] <Punisher> uuu
[09:36] <bazanime> exactly
[09:36] <IndyGunFreak> bazanime: do you have an XP disk?
[09:36] <bazanime> how?
[09:36] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: so... do you see a line for /home or for no?
[09:37] <bazanime> i use vista
[09:37] <neozen> *or
[09:37] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen hold on
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, vista.. i don't know.
[09:37] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: ok
[09:37] <Comrade-Sergei> im downloading other stuff too
[09:37] <bazanime> exactly
[09:37] <eck> scottam: afaik it does not make a backup of your mbr before it is overwritten
[09:37] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: ok....
[09:37] <bulmer> Renu23: like a fine wine..it takes time?
[09:37] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15847/
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> bazanime: try google, thats all i can suggest.
[09:37] <bazanime> i have
[09:38] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: nope... your home isn't on a separate partition
[09:38] <bazanime> first port of call
[09:38] <IndyGunFreak> i know how to do it with XP.., but thats it.
[09:38] <eck> bazanime: if you do not restore the windows bootloader, then grub will try to load up, but if you delete the ubuntu partition grub will not be able to find the stage 1.5 files and you will get a grub error screen
[09:38] <brainjangle> when i gun glxgears i get Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0"
[09:38] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen good right?
[09:38] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: not really
[09:38] <Comrade-Sergei> ew
[09:38] <bazanime> exactly eck
[09:38] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: makes upgrades harder
[09:38] <bazanime> i dont waht that
[09:38] <Renu23> bulmer i want to burn with 2 in the same time that i burned with one
[09:38] <bazanime> want*
[09:38] <eck> bazanime: so if you are going to remove ubuntu completely, make sure you have windows give you a new mbr
[09:39] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen at a 256k dsl line its going to take all week to download and upgrade
[09:39] <bazanime> how/
[09:39] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: if it was split off you'd see another line for /home and that'd be another partiton
[09:39] <scottam> eck, bazanime: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:39] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: plus dist-upgrades might break things in your repositories
[09:39] <unimatrix9> bazanime -wnats to remove it all?
[09:39] <eck> scottam: that is not a backup of the mbr
[09:39] <bulmer> Renu23 on different burners its possible
[09:39] <bazanime> i dont want to boot into ubuntu at all
[09:39] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: I'd recommend backing up your entire /home
[09:39] <Renu23> different burners?
[09:39] <bazanime> no mouse suppot
[09:39] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: cleaning out the drive
[09:39] <unimatrix9> bazanime -boot from the windows xp cdrom, choose recovery mode,
[09:39] <eck> scottam: the mbr is the code that gets executed when you turn on your computer
[09:40] <bazanime> i have vista
[09:40] <unimatrix9> then fixmbr
[09:40] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: and doing a fresh install of feisty
[09:40] <unimatrix9> hmm, ok
[09:40] <unimatrix9> hold on
[09:40] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: but that's just me
[09:40] <bazanime> its easy in xp
[09:40] <Renu23> bulmer but with 2 different burners i can copy :d
[09:40] <bazanime> fixmbr
[09:40] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen i was just screwing with windows and already have it all backed up to my ipod anyways, this is a fresh install
[09:40] <bulmer> Renu23: right, so just be patient
[09:40] <bazanime> but i want to know what to do in vista
[09:40] <RenatoSilva> hi
[09:41] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen is feisty officially out now?
[09:41] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: no
[09:41] <kernel06> i couldn't make ubuntu 6.10 work with my airlink mimo pcmcia....any help
[09:41] <RenatoSilva> tell me
[09:41] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: feisty is still beta until the 19th
[09:41] <RenatoSilva> i was testing the new feisty beta just now
[09:41] <scottam> eck: ah, right . . . . been a while since i really looked at what grub writes to the mbr
[09:41] <kane77> does new versions need better computer? because I'm running edgy on a very edgy computer (however its the lower edge ;) ) and I don't know if I should upgrade to feisty...
[09:41] <RenatoSilva> will I STILL have trouble with my Winmodem?????
[09:41] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: can still be a little rough around the edges
[09:41] <unimatrix9> bazanime -one moment i will tell you
[09:41] <Cosmo_>  I downloaded the .debs for my brother printer since it is not on the list that comes up when adding a printer, but when I install the .deb it still doesn't come up on the list. What am I doing wrong?
[09:41] <bazanime> ok thanks
[09:41] <neozen> RenatoSilva: probably
[09:41] <neozen> RenatoSilva: its a winmodem
[09:42] <RenatoSilva> neozen: as i've said
[09:42] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen idk ill just wait till it comes out and stay with edgy for now
[09:42] <RenatoSilva> neozen: it's is
[09:42] <RenatoSilva> neozen: it's it
[09:42] <unimatrix9> bazanime -boot from your vista dvd, you have an option fro startup repair
[09:42] <RenatoSilva> neozen: i'm so sad
[09:42] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: oh... you're in feisty
[09:43] <RenatoSilva> neozen: so sad!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: I mean edgy
[09:43] <scottam> kane77: you can always go with a lightweight window manager instead of gnome/kde
[09:43] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: thought you said you were running breezy
[09:43] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen no  i had a warty,hoary and a breezy disc so i used the breezy
[09:43] <eck> winmodem = evil
[09:43] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: ah... and you've already upgraded to edgy?
[09:43] <Comrade-Sergei> lol
[09:43] <RenatoSilva> neozen: the wiki says martiam modem would be part of feisty, but there's nothing related to martian on repositories
[09:43] <unimatrix9> bazanime -are you still here?
[09:44] <bazanime> i will try, but its a restore cd and its spanned across 7 cds
[09:44] <Comrade-Sergei> no i just got this running lol (barely)
[09:44] <neozen> RenatoSilva: who knows... they might've included it in the kernel
[09:44] <RenatoSilva> neozen: bad point to mark shuttleworth
[09:44] <kane77> scottam, i'm with xfce :) and it's still below what I call bearable.. it's my dad's computer and it has only 128megs of ram (and 8 is shared for graphics...)
[09:44] <unimatrix9> bazanime -one moment i will give you the link ( url )
[09:44] <bazanime> ok thanks
[09:44] <neozen> kane77: I'm on xfce too... I happen to like it
[09:44] <RenatoSilva> neozen: there's a king of restricted modules package includind tlmodem not martian
[09:45] <unimatrix9> you will have to print or read it,
[09:45] <unimatrix9> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
[09:45] <eck> kane77: whatever you use, it's going to be slow
[09:45] <unimatrix9> here it is
[09:45] <neozen> RenatoSilva: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:45] <unimatrix9> make sure you understand what to do
[09:45] <neozen> RenatoSilva: that's feisty support
[09:45] <unimatrix9> its an long read...
[09:45] <RenatoSilva> neozen: oh great!!
[09:45] <RenatoSilva> neozen: thanks!
[09:45] <eck> kane77: you can definitely get well under 128 MB of ram if you cut out all the extra services and use something like fluxbox.... but for a computer that old, nothing is going to make it seem fast
[09:45] <neozen> RenatoSilva: its right in the topic of the room mon
[09:45] <unimatrix9> bazanime have you got it?
[09:45] <RenatoSilva> neozen: who are there?
[09:45] <LordLimecat> anyone  up for helping me with a (probably) simple kernel compile issue?
[09:46] <illu45> Is there someone who could help me out with a sound issue please? My sound just stopped working this morning :(
[09:46] <bazanime> lol.... i should have just no bothered with the install. thank you i got it
[09:46] <kane77> eck, I'm persuading him to invest a bit and buy at least 265... on my computer I was running gnome with that much
[09:46] <nolimitsoya> !ask | LordLimecat
[09:46] <ubotu> LordLimecat: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:46] <neozen> RenatoSilva: people more knowledgeable about feisty
[09:46] <LordLimecat> lol
[09:46] <unimatrix9> ok good luck
[09:46] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:46] <RenatoSilva> neozen: are they programmers or users?
[09:46] <LordLimecat> alright, already done make menuconfig, saved config
[09:46] <neozen> RenatoSilva: go there and ask
[09:46] <LordLimecat> ran make-kpkg clean
[09:46] <neozen> RenatoSilva: both most likely
[09:46] <RenatoSilva> neozen: ok bye
[09:46] <LordLimecat> i get a ton of errors
[09:47] <bazanime> thank you for an excellent help unimatrix9. you are a credit to the community
[09:47] <nolimitsoya> !paste | LordLimecat
[09:47] <LordLimecat> alright
[09:47] <LordLimecat> one sec
[09:47] <ubotu> LordLimecat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:48] <thepumpkin1979> why Ubuntu Edgy has not the lastest version from mono?
[09:48] <thepumpkin1979> it have 1.1.17 and the lastests version is 1.2.3
[09:48] <LordLimecat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15849/
 how do I buy ram to fit into my MB? do I take the one that's in with me? </offtopic>
[09:48] <unimatrix9> i think we need to do some work, and find an easy way for people to restore vista bootloaders...LOL
[09:48] <nolimitsoya> kane77, thatd be your best bet, yes
[09:49] <scottam> kane77: a lot of stores won't carry really old RAM
[09:49] <unimatrix9> grub does not play nice with vista...
[09:49] <scottam> kane77: if it's SDRAM (not DDR or DDR2) you're probably best off buying it online
[09:49] <Cosmo_> hmmm with Gkremlin it shows one of my temp sensors at 261.5 degrees farenhight, I think it might be reporting incorrectly
[09:49] <LordLimecat> if its rdram, yer best getting a new comp
[09:50] <LordLimecat> cause that stuff is more expensive than gold o.0
[09:50] <kane77> scottam, it's 1.4 duron.. wht did they use?
[09:50] <nolimitsoya> kane77, scottam, mind you, if its realy old ram (or rdram *shrug*) you are better of bying a new computer, since the pricing will be astronomical
[09:50] <nolimitsoya> kane77, pc133 od pc266
[09:50] <nolimitsoya> *or
[09:50] <LordLimecat> sdrams pretty pricey sometimes too for upgrades
[09:51] <Comrade-Sergei> i get this when i try to install the w32 codecs   ---- E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[09:51] <Comrade-Sergei> wtf
[09:51] <Renu23> howto write an iso from console?
[09:51] <LordLimecat> nolimitsoya: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15849/
[09:51] <nolimitsoya> Renu23, man mkisofs
[09:51] <LordLimecat> i can also paste my ls -la /usr/source if that helps\
[09:51] <Renu23> ????
[09:51] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: add the multiverse, and universe
[09:51] <unimatrix9> Cosmo acpci -t
[09:51] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: then apt-get update
[09:52] <Linuxnewbie756> i have over 600 .RST files which are basically tab seperated contact info, how can i import them all to an address book?
[09:52] <nolimitsoya> LordLimecat, no idea, sorry. why not just make?
[09:52] <multik> group, have you ever seen LTSP server in action?
[09:52] <LordLimecat> lemme try that
[09:52] <scottam> kane77: probably sdram....it'll cost $80 from crucial.com for 512 MB, which is twice the price of DDR2
[09:52] <Renu23> nolimitsoya give me a link pls
[09:52] <LordLimecat> i really just need someone to walk me thru one kernel compile, guides seem to cause issues
[09:52] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen i think i already did
[09:52] <kane77> scottam, yeah... i'm just looking for some.. :( i thought it'd be cheaper...
[09:53] <Linuxnewbie756> how about his, how can i rename over 600 *.RST files to *.txt files?
[09:53] <cables> Linuxnewbie756, scripting. It's easy and powerful.
[09:53] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen its just add repo then check the other (multi and comm  maintained) right?
[09:53] <Linuxnewbie756> cables: ok, can you get me started?
[09:53] <cables> Linuxnewbie756, hold on a sec
[09:53] <Linuxnewbie756> i haven't quite master either renaming or scripting
[09:53] <nolimitsoya> Renu23, type man mkisofs in a console, and youll get a manual
[09:53] <Linuxnewbie756> cables: will do
[09:53] <LordLimecat> alright, i may have it
[09:54] <nolimitsoya> Linuxnewbie756, mv foo{bar,foobar} will rename foobar foofoobar
[09:54] <Koche> hola cmo te va?
[09:55] <cables> Linuxnewbie756, turns out you don't need much scripting after all :)
[09:55] <cables> !es | Koche
[09:55] <ubotu> Koche: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:55] <Linuxnewbie756> cables: ok, so help me
[09:55] <scottam> nolimitsoya: that is beautiful
[09:55] <Mandatory> wtf?
[09:55] <nolimitsoya> Linuxnewbie756, i just did ;)
[09:55] <blue|palm> Ive installed beryl but I dont have any titlebars!!!
[09:55] <cables> Linuxnewbie756, someone just sent you something
[09:55] <cables> !beryl | blue|palm
[09:55] <ubotu> blue|palm: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:55] <nolimitsoya> Linuxnewbie756, mv *.{RST,txt}
[09:56] <nolimitsoya> scottam, yes isnt it :)
[09:56] <scottam> linuxnewbie756: mv *.{RST,txt}
[09:56] <Linuxnewbie756> nolimitsoya: so what do i do? just cd to the dir and run that?
[09:56] <nolimitsoya> Linuxnewbie756, yes
[09:56] <Nicholas76> Ubuntu's GAIM is awesome
[09:56] <Jump86> is feisty still scheduled for 4/19 or did they push it back?
[09:56] <Nicholas76> i think 4/19
[09:56] <cables> Nicholas76, I really wish there was something like Adium for linux
[09:56] <Mandatory> they push it back a few days
[09:56] <rocketbomb> hi
[09:56] <Nicholas76> really?
[09:57] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen?
[09:57] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: yes?
[09:57] <jrib> Linuxnewbie756: don't do that
[09:57] <Comrade-Sergei> i get this when i try to install the w32 codecs   ---- E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll\
[09:57] <Linuxnewbie756> jrib: do what?
[09:57] <Mandatory> i've read it today cause of ATA-Chipsets problems
[09:57] <MasseR> How do I make a bash script which is able to get a filename from for example thunar?
[09:57] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: try not worrying about it
[09:57] <jrib> Linuxnewbie756: the command given to you
[09:58] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: things might work without it
[09:58] <neozen> Comrade-Sergei: ::grins::
[09:58] <Comrade-Sergei> neozen i need mp3 support though
[09:58] <Linuxnewbie756> jrib: so how can i do it?
[09:58] <jrib> Linuxnewbie756: do you know regexp?
[09:58] <Nicholas76> HELP! On my windows mounted drive, I cannot do a make link to desktop. Why?
[09:58] <Linuxnewbie756> jrib: what is regexp?
[09:58] <scottam> jrib: does that command do something else?
[09:58] <nightglider48> Alright.  I have a USB PSC hooked up to my desktop.  Is there an easy way to Print/Scan from my laptop (same network) without changing connections?
[09:59] <jrib> scottam: it will probably fail
[09:59] <Nicholas76> :)
[09:59] <jrib> scottam: but it won't do what it is intended to
[09:59] <Linuxnewbie756> jrib: what is it?
[09:59] <LjL> Linuxnewbie756: man rename
[09:59] <Parabola> are there codec packs for xine to allow it to play xvids?
[10:00] <Parabola> I'm using beryl, and VLC doesnt like it..
[10:00] <Nicholas76> Is evolution mail supposed to be the linux Outlook?
[10:00] <Linuxnewbie756> LjL: what?
[10:00] <Parabola> Nicholas76,  yes
[10:00] <Nicholas76> ok
[10:00] <Crescendo_> I'm using xinerama, and when I take a screenshot, it only screenshots the left screen.  Also, when I VNC in, I only see the left screen.  If I hold alt while using printscreen, it will capture both screens.  What can I do to fix this?
[10:00] <LjL> Nicholas76: uh... it's supposed to be a mail client. Outlook is also a mail client to my knowledge
[10:00] <sorcerer> does any one  know hwo to get ubuntu to recodnize .. this camera .. cybershot dsc-t1
[10:00] <Parabola> Nicholas76,  you can even sync your palmOS device with it
[10:00] <scottam> linuxnewbie756: regex = regular expressions
[10:00] <LjL> Linuxnewbie756: type "man rename" in a console
[10:00] <Nicholas76> cool
[10:00] <MasseR> I've tried making a simple 'echo $1 > filename' and from thunar 'open in application'
[10:00] <Parabola> Nicholas76, works well, I sync my treo650 with it :)
[10:00] <Parabola> does mail,contacts,calender
[10:01] <sorcerer> when i did a lsusb .. on the terminal the camera which is conencted doesnt show up and ideas whats wrong ?
[10:01] <ste> qualcuno esperto in linux?
[10:01] <ste> per domanda veloce veloce...
[10:01] <ste> ???
[10:01] <jrib> Linuxnewbie756: basically you want something like: rename -n 's/\.RST$/.txt/' *.RST
[10:01] <LjL> !it | ste
[10:01] <ubotu> ste: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:01] <Linuxnewbie756> jrib: will that work?
[10:01] <LjL> Linuxnewbie756: no
[10:01] <jrib> Linuxnewbie756: take a quick look at http://www.regular-expressions.info/ .  It should work, try it.  It will only say what it is doing without doing it unless you remove the -n
[10:02] <Parabola> !xine
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <Mandatory> Has anyone a Ricoh - Webcam. My one doesn't work with Ubuntu. Is there a driver??
[10:02] <Comrade-Sergei> what command would i use to get mp3 support in breezy?
[10:02] <sorcerer> could anyoen help me with the usb camera problem ... i cant seem to recodnize it on my system
[10:02] <LjL> !mp3 > Comrade-Sergei    (Comrade-Sergei, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:02] <Linuxnewbie756> jrib: so -n just tests?
[10:02] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: breezy is not supported anymore, though, and i'm afraid the specifics might have been different there.
[10:03] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL is it for breezy?
[10:03] <jrib> Linuxnewbie756: yes
[10:03] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: you should probably upgrade
[10:03] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: no
[10:03] <jrib> Linuxnewbie756: 'man rename' should explain it in more detail
[10:03] <Nicholas76> Does anyone here dual-boot?
[10:03] <Parabola> Yes
[10:03] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL well yea i want to have music while i upgrade ( its going to take all week)
[10:03] <Parabola> XP and edgy
[10:03] <dawson> Hello, I have installed VMware and have successfully installed windows Vista upon a virtual computer, I am having an issue, every time i reboot i have to run the vmwares configuration file again, otherwise it won't start. Any suggestions ? Thanks.
[10:03] <Linuxnewbie756> jrib: it worked, thanks a lot!
[10:03] <ghaaly> hello
[10:04] <ghaaly> my sound doesn't work in ubuntu
[10:04] <sorcerer> Nicholas76:  yeahi do
[10:04] <Parabola> !mplayer
[10:04] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[10:04] <Nicholas76> I' thinkin about doing dualboot with the fairly-new Vista and the new Festy Fawn.
[10:04] <neozen> Nicholas76: yeah I duel-boot
[10:04] <ghaaly> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[10:04] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL is it even possible to do?
[10:04] <`Matir> short of swapping out components, is there any reasonable way to differentiate between a bad CPU and a bad MOBO?
[10:04] <ghaaly> That's my sound device
[10:04] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: it's going to take 5 hours, assuming you've got a 256 kilobps connection and it can download at its maximum speed
[10:04] <neozen> Nicholas76: so far linux is winning the fight
[10:04] <jessid> hello. Me, again, :) with my Ubuntu I was living a nightmare with vista, jajaja
[10:04] <neozen> Nicholas76: by a LARGE margin
[10:04] <Nicholas76> :(:)?
[10:04] <neozen> Nicholas76: haven't booted into windows in about 6 months
[10:04] <Comrade-Sergei> LjL but dont i have to stepping stone all the way up to edgy
[10:05] <ghaaly> hello folks
[10:05] <Nicholas76> wow
[10:05] <ghaaly> My sound doesn't work
[10:05] <ghaaly> no output
[10:05] <Parabola> Nicholas76,  be careful, vista doesnt like it
[10:05] <Nicholas76> I'm Ubuntuing of of a live cd, currently
[10:05] <crimsun> ghaaly: pastebin the requested info from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems , then tell me the URL
[10:05] <ghaaly> I hear no sound
[10:05] <Nubbie> nicholas76: i haven't used windows in 3 years.
[10:05] <jrib> !sound > ghaaly    (ghaaly, see the private message from ubotu)
[10:05] <Jello> Nicholas76: I agree that Linux is beating out Vista, and I only boot into Windows when it's essential and I have no other choice.
[10:05] <neozen> Nicholas76: and when I did... it was only to delete some stuff so I could give linux more drive space
[10:05] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: yes, it's possible. but you need to know which packages are needed - and i don't remember that, since i haven't used breezy for ages. perhaps your best bet is this: go to the page that the bot gave you, then look at the history (it's a wiki) and try watching a version from 2005/6
[10:05] <Nicholas76> yep, really
[10:05] <neozen> Nicholas76: dual-booting with winxp and xubuntu here
[10:05] <nolimitsoya> jrib, please elaborate :)
[10:06] <dawson> I have a virtual machine ready for my windows requirements
[10:06] <Nicholas76> After I found Ubuntu, I hated Windows :P
[10:06] <Comrade-Sergei> ok thanks LjL
[10:06] <LjL> Comrade-Sergei: uhm, yes you do, i didn't count that. make it 15 hours then :)
[10:06] <nolimitsoya> jrib, on the {}renaming scheme, that is
[10:06] <ghaaly> jrib, hold on
[10:06] <jrib> ghaaly: do what crimsun says, he will help you better than I can
[10:06] <Linuxnewbie756> jrib: so, do you know how i can import all of those files into on database, addressbook, or the like (besically, they are seperated by tabs
[10:07] <neozen> Nicholas76: like what you see?
[10:07] <jrib> nolimitsoya: on why the mv command wouldn't work?
[10:07] <neozen> Nicholas76: well when you're ready to install ... stop in
[10:07] <Nicholas76> GIMP is awesome on Ubuntu! I always thought it should be called GIMPaint :)
[10:07] <neozen> Nicholas76: we'll be happy to get you set up
[10:07] <nolimitsoya> jrib, yes, and why it wouldnt do what its ment to :)
[10:07] <Parabola> !codec
[10:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:08] <Mr_Giraffe> !sudo
[10:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:08] <MrMakeveli> Does the default bit torrent client on Ubuntu only allow one download at a time?
[10:08] <Mr_Giraffe> bah, that doesn't help.
[10:08] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: you can run it as many times as you like
[10:08] <xjkx> I would like to know if its true ubuntu doesn't play mp3 by the default installation
[10:08] <dooglus> um - MrMakeveli I mean
[10:08] <unimatrix9> its true
[10:08] <nolimitsoya> MrMakeveli, you can run multiple instances
[10:08] <jrib> nolimitsoya: well 'mv file1 file2 file3 ... fileN' will fail unless fileN is a directory which will copy file1, file2, ..., fileN-1 to the fileN directory
[10:08] <Mr_Giraffe> dooglus, it's not a matter of running sudo as much as i want...it's getting it to work with GUI apps.
[10:08] <Endler> Is Feisty Fawn final still scheduled to be released on the 19th, just a few days after rc1 is released, will it be pushed back too and released 7 days after the rc is released?
[10:08] <kneeki> Does anyone know anything about Ubuntu 7.04 not being able to view hidden files?
[10:08] <jessid> Is it possible to specify the program i want to run when setting the hotkeys? for example I dont want to run rithmbox when the play key is pressed, but xmms...
[10:08] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: I typed your name by mistake, sorry.
[10:09] <xjkx> unimatrix9 would i have to install the codecs from internet or i'd be able to find them on the cd?
[10:09] <MrMakeveli> xljcc: it doesnt play mp3 by default, it is a proprietary format
[10:09] <vox754> xjkx, you just need to follow a single link to be able to use mp3. It is not hard.
[10:09] <bazanime> i think so too
[10:09] <Mr_Giraffe> s'cool.
[10:09] <unimatrix9> kneeki , you can view them by pressing crtl + h
[10:09] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: do you have a question?
[10:09] <xjkx> NO i mean with no internet acess
[10:09] <sorcerer> can anyone help mw with the camera not being recodnized on my system
[10:09] <kane77> xjkx, MrMakeveli , I guess feisty does..
[10:09] <jrib> Linuxnewbie756: it depends on what you want to do, you could write some kind of script to parse the files and dump the data into a database
[10:09] <a5benwillis> I cant seem to get XDMCP working between two Ubuntu Edgy pc's. I've enabled xdmcp and the greeter in xorg.conf and xorg.conf-custom. On the connecting machine I installed xnest but when I connect to the host the grey screen with an x is all I get. Any ideas?
[10:09] <bazanime> not everyone that uses linux are win haters. i like to use boot
[10:09] <taneli> j/ #ubuntu-fi-tiimit
[10:09] <kneeki> unimatrix: I've tried that, no go
[10:09] <bazanime> both
[10:09] <MrMakeveli> wait, what the heck, why is there only 8 people in here?
[10:09] <bazanime> lol pun not intended
[10:09] <xjkx> just the machine and the cd
[10:09] <unimatrix9> !codecs
[10:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:09] <Mr_Giraffe> yeah, dooglus.
[10:09] <jrib> nolimitsoya: s/copy/move...
[10:10] <MrMakeveli> kane: feisty it still isnt default, its just easier. at least that is my understanding
[10:10] <xjkx> unimatrix9 No !! i mean with NO internet acess, no websites
[10:10] <xjkx> is there a way?
[10:10] <crimsun> ghaaly: make sure you preface any responses to me with my nick, else I'll miss them
[10:10] <Mr_Giraffe> see, i (obviously) need to use sudo almost all the time to be able to work with my box.
[10:10] <Some_Person> is 5gb enough to install buuntu
[10:10] <Some_Person> i mean ubuntu
[10:10] <Ademan> anyone know what at-spi-registryd  does?
[10:10] <MrMakeveli> did i join the wrong room?
[10:10] <kane77> MrMakeveli, I'm not arguing, to be honest I dont remember if i did or didnt install codecs for it...
[10:10] <unimatrix9> xjkx , there is an way, visit / or ask an friend to download the files you need
[10:10] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: you can "sudo -i" or "sudo -s" to get a root shell if that's what you want, and you know what you're doing.
[10:10] <Mr_Giraffe> however, whenever i try to do 'sudo nautilus', 'sudo gedit', or 'sudo gdmsetup' it errors up.
[10:10] <rocketbomb> 5 gb is mostly enough
[10:10] <thornomad> Hi, I need some help with forcing files created in a shared folder to have g+rw permissions ... what I did was: I created a user group ($ sudo groupadd test), added myself and friends to the group ($ sudo usermod -a -G test thornomad) then created a folder ($ sudo mkdir /home/test) and changed permissions on the folder ($ sudo chown -R root:test /home/test) ... how do I make the files created by those of us in the group rw by all ? thanks!
[10:10] <assasukasse> is there someone that uses cbq? i have some problem when starting it
[10:11] <Mr_Giraffe> lemme get the paste.
[10:11] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: use gksu to run gui apps as root
[10:11] <Mr_Giraffe> i tried that too.
[10:11] <xjkx> omg too many messages ! please anyone tell me if with no internet access, the cd and a machine i'd find the codecs in cd and play mp3
[10:11] <jrib> thornomad: setgid the directory I think
[10:11] <MrMakeveli> kane: hehe i didnt mean it in an argumentative way, just trying to find out the details. regardless of which, it comes down to being even easier to get them
[10:11] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: what happens?
[10:11] <unimatrix9> xjkx , wich version are you running?
[10:11] <Some_Person> is 5gb enough to install ubuntu
[10:11] <ryanakca> what's the equivalent of 'dl' in ubuntu? (to show all the disks, and how full they are)
[10:11] <xjkx> unimatrix9 i am not running i just woul like to know
[10:11] <ghaaly> crimsun, can I pm you
[10:11] <dooglus> xjkx: ubuntu doesn't come with mp3 codecs, no.  there are patent issues
[10:11] <Mr_Giraffe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15850/ this is what i get.
[10:12] <neozen> ryanakca: df
[10:12] <kane77> Some_Person, yes
[10:12] <rocketbomb> 5 gb is quite enough
[10:12] <thornomad> jrib, I get a "command not found for setgid
[10:12] <unimatrix9> xjkx , hold on...
[10:12] <crimsun> ghaaly: please do /not/
[10:12] <kane77> ryanakca, df
[10:12] <jrib> thornomad: oh and change your umask, unless you use acl's
[10:12] <ryanakca> thanks
[10:12] <ghaaly> crimsun, ok np
[10:12] <rocketbomb> my ubuntu partition is just 4,5 gb
[10:12] <xjkx> dooglus what about the other buntus, are they the same?
[10:12] <jrib> thornomad: man chmod   for the setgid thing
[10:12] <ghaaly> crimsun, tell me what you want me to do exactly to feedback
[10:12] <vox754> xjkx, NO the codecs are not included in the CDs for legal reasons
[10:12] <dooglus> xjkx: I don't know.  k* and x* will be.  don't know about the more exotic varients
[10:12] <neozen> my xubuntu / partition has yet to top 2gb
[10:12] <Mr_Giraffe> dooglus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15850/ (sorry about not putting your nick in)
[10:12] <thornomad> jrib, okay, i will look there.  what is the umask ? is that the default settings for my user to create files ?
[10:13] <jrib> thornomad: yes
[10:13] <ghaaly> crimsun, ?
[10:13] <kane77> my ubuntu partition is 25G total...
[10:13] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: is that from a terminal inside GNOME?
[10:13] <crimsun> ghaaly: pastebin the commands from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:13] <MrMakeveli> are we all in the wrong channel? 23 people in here? by default isnt there 1000+?
[10:13] <thornomad> jrib, all right, I will look at umask too ... is there a way to make my umask directory specific ?  that is, only create the files with g+rw in that directoy ? not all my files ?
[10:13] <ghaaly> crimsun, What command ?
[10:14] <Mr_Giraffe> dooglus, yeah.
[10:14] <kane77> MrMakeveli, where do you get that from? there's 1161 totally
[10:14] <unimatrix9> xjkx , you need to make an cdrom with the files on it, it can be done, but you need to know some things about how to get it done
[10:14] <MrMakeveli> kane: mine says 28 and my list shows 28 too
[10:14] <ghaaly> crimsun, besides the link doesn't work
[10:14] <negroi> HI
[10:14] <Jump86> I'm having a problem w/ Avant Window Navigator.. it runs fine but doesnt display the active selection  (shows as highlighted but no icon is displayed) this is the terminal error before loading: GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_composite: assertion `dest_x >= 0 && dest_x + dest_width <= dest->width' failed
[10:14] <Mr_Giraffe> dooglus, tracing it throws it into a weird loop.
[10:14] <jrib> thornomad: I believe you can do taht using ACL's but I can't give you much more than that so you can search for more info
[10:14] <robdeman> hey folks, I just compiled mplayer and it complains 'error while loading shared libraries: libamrnb.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory' ... but libamrnb.so.2 is in /usr/local/lib/libamrnb.so.2 .. how do I tell mplayer to look in /usr/local/lib/ ??
[10:14] <rocketbomb> i got 1000+ ppl in list
[10:14] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: how about gksudo?
[10:14] <urik> Hi. Maybe somebody could help me 1 minute? (if you want do it in PM so I don't bother the current chat)
[10:14] <MrMakeveli> anyone using GAIM for their irc?
[10:15] <ghaaly> crimsun, ??
[10:15] <crimsun> ghaaly: it very much does work. I wrote it.
[10:15] <ghaaly> crimsun, okay
[10:15] <negroi> Is there Hitler
[10:15] <negroi> ?
[10:15] <Buckminster> Was Znes removed from the repos?
[10:15] <xjkx> unimatrix9 sure, but i'd rather get another *buntu if they come up already with it
[10:15] <thornomad> jrib, okay, thanks.  i will look into umask, setgid, and ACL ... apprecaite it
[10:15] <Mr_Giraffe> dooglus, that's using gksudo.
[10:15] <ghaaly> crimsun, What command would you like me to execute
[10:15] <jrib> negroi: do you have a question about Ubuntu?
[10:15] <crimsun> ghaaly: in the "Necessary information" section, execute commands 1-7
[10:15] <negroi> Im coming from remote exploit and i looking for hitler
[10:15] <unimatrix9> xjkx , try ubuntu mint
[10:15] <crimsun> ghaaly: take the output from those commands and paste them on http://pastebin.ca
[10:15] <xjkx> unimatrix9 whats ubuntu mint
[10:15] <Buckminster> Anyone know if Znes (SNES emulator) was removed from the repos?
[10:16] <ghaaly> crimsun, ok
[10:16] <Mr_Giraffe> xjkx, it's a modified ubuntu distro.
[10:16] <ghaaly> crimsun, hold on
[10:16] <Mr_Giraffe> it's actually called linux mint, if you want to look it up.
[10:16] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: how about just xclock?  runs ok?
[10:16] <unimatrix9> xjkx , http://linuxmint.com/
[10:16] <Mr_Giraffe> dooglus, xclock says it can't find any fontsets.
[10:17] <unimatrix9> negroi , then you came to the wrong place
[10:17] <Mr_Giraffe> did you not mean me...?
[10:17] <dooglus> negroi: he died
[10:17] <unimatrix9> please kick him
[10:17] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: you.
[10:17] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: odd
[10:17] <negroi> Unimatrix , are you Peter Griphin
[10:17] <negroi> ?
[10:17] <negroi> lol
[10:17] <vox754> jrib, do your magic
[10:18] <negroi> ,,,
[10:18] <unimatrix9> no i am unimatrix, from Grid X 9
[10:18] <MrMakeveli> ok ok, i rejoined and now i see everyone here. whew.
[10:18] <Buckminster> Anyone know if Znes (SNES emulator) was removed from the repos?
[10:18] <unimatrix9> redp prima dte
[10:19] <vox754> Buckminster, maybe you can find it in the SourceForge page
[10:19] <Mr_Giraffe> dooglus, it's probably because i have a different (windows-like) font setup, it doesn't really affect anything else.
[10:19] <Mr_Giraffe> i'm more concerned about being able to do anything with GUI apps as root.
[10:19] <MrMakeveli> im sorry, someone was talking to me before about running multiple bit torrent clients. i tried to do more than one simultaneously and it always gave me an error
[10:19] <Buckminster> I wa hoping I could make synaptic do it for me :-(
[10:19] <Buckminster> there are a bunch of dependencies I'm having trouble with
[10:19] <ghaaly> crimsun, http://www.pastebin.ca/441666
[10:19] <urik> maybe someone could please help me? I read that from ubuntu you can acces files that are in the windows partition. Maybe someone could explain me a bit more about that?
[10:19] <ghaaly> crimsun, the first command
[10:19] <a5benwillis> I cant seem to get XDMCP working between two Ubuntu Edgy pc's. I've enabled xdmcp and the greeter in xorg.conf and xorg.conf-custom. On the connecting machine I installed xnest but when I connect to the host the grey screen with an x is all I get. Any ideas?
[10:20] <crimsun> ghaaly: place them all on one page, please.
[10:20] <ghaaly> crimsun, ok
[10:20] <Lukemob> Yo
[10:21] <unimatrix9> hmm, rima-tde.net nest of the spammers
[10:21] <Lukemob> I got an error.
[10:21] <Lukemob> groff: can't find `DESC' file
[10:21] <Lukemob> groff:fatal error: invalid device `utf8'
[10:21] <Lukemob> :S
[10:21] <linux_kid> ?Can I install KDE on top of GNOME while leaving the splash and gdm alone?????
[10:21] <LordLimecat> yes
[10:21] <Mr_Giraffe> dooglus, have you ever encountered this error before?
[10:21] <vox754> Buckminster, it appears to be in multiverse, make sure you have that repo enabled
[10:21] <Mr_Giraffe> i've seen threads about it, but none of them really have solutions in them.
[10:22] <x2Fusion> Download today, http://beam.to/picy
[10:23] <clem__> would you recommend not using the security upgrades repository?
[10:23] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: I haven't.  Sorry I was being a bit brief earlier, but I was trying 1 handed, and at a funny angle
[10:23] <LordLimecat> if im compiling the kernel for athalon64 (and specified such in make menuconfig), i shouldnt be seeing references to i386 during the compile, should i?
[10:23] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: what I meant to ask is: "can you run apps as yourself, such as 'xterm' or 'xclock' from a terminal?"
[10:23] <Mr_Giraffe> oh, yeah, i can.
[10:23] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: ie. is it just "gksudo" which is playing up, or everything?
[10:24] <Mr_Giraffe> i can run apps, and do, but some won't let me as sudo.
[10:24] <Mr_Giraffe> i can do commands as sudo, but i can't run apps.
[10:25] <dooglus> Mr_Giraffe: only some?  so some gui apps DO work with sudo?
[10:25] <mrcutting> Have you put the fully qualified pathname of the command in etc/sudoers?
[10:25] <unimatrix9> bye all
[10:25] <unimatrix9> have an good night
[10:25] <unimatrix9> :)
[10:25] <mrcutting> Sorry I meant app
[10:25] <AndyGee> Hi, im withour x using irssi so be gentle with me ;)
[10:26] <Cole> i can't remember, when it fiesty going to be released? the 18th?
[10:26] <Mr_Giraffe> dooglus, yeah, but i haven't run through everything yet.
[10:26] <LordLimecat> mrcutting: im curious about the sudoers file....am i right in assuming that you can specify instances in there where the sudo password is not needed?
[10:26] <MrMakeveli> how do you run multiple versions of bit torrent at once? when i try to do a second i get an error
[10:26] <Mr_Giraffe> dooglus, i'm not sure which apps work and which apps don't.
[10:26] <mrcutting> Yup
[10:26] <MrMakeveli> the default bit torrent client**
[10:26] <LordLimecat> for instance, if i needed a startup command to run with sudo
[10:26] <LordLimecat> awesome :D
[10:26] <mrcutting> I think the syntax is like NOPASSWD=ALL
[10:26] <vox754> Cole, don't worry about it, it will be released... please stop asking
[10:27] <AndyGee> After I try to log in (with any user) in the x-welcome screen x restarts and shows me a new gr. login prompt
[10:27] <vox754> MrMakeveli, use other torrent client
[10:27] <LordLimecat> would i also be right in assuming that if a rootkit were to get installed, that might be a big target?  (im paranoid)
[10:27] <vidchi> hello
[10:27] <s0nix> Hi, is there a way to synchronize ALL Kontact information (including all plugins, note, read mail, todo list, contacts) ? cause i want to use this wonderful software on my home pc AND on my laptop. thx for ur answer
[10:27] <Cole> vox, i know that, i heard an exact day in this channel so please
[10:27] <MrMakeveli> vox: which would you recommend?
[10:27] <vox754> !torrents | MrMakeveli
[10:27] <ubotu> MrMakeveli: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Edgy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[10:27] <vox754> !torrent | MrMakeveli
[10:27] <ubotu> MrMakeveli: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[10:27] <neozen> !pim
[10:27] <AndyGee> all i see in messages is a acpi message. Any idea where i should start searching for the reason?
[10:27] <dooglus> Cole: see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[10:28] <MrMakeveli> vox: the default doesnt allow for more than one at a time?
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <Cole> dooglus, thank you it was the 19th
[10:29] <vox754> MrMakeveli, I recommend Azureus. Install first "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre" then get Azureus from the SourceForge project page. I haven't used the default client, maybe it doesn't have many options. Also read the ma page if that helps.
[10:29] <mrcutting> BRBawk
[10:29] <AndyGee> The message when x is restarting is something like: ACPI: PCI-Interupt ... GSI 16. How has a Hint for me ?
[10:30] <dhgwill> i'm trying to get feisty beta installed on an external hard drive to boot on a mac mini with refit, and i've got a few questions...
[10:30] <jessid> how is it possible to specify which app is run when i configure the shortcuts???
[10:31] <jessid> !shortcut
[10:31] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[10:31] <vox754> dhgwill, #ubuntu+1
[10:31] <eck> jessid: are you using gnome?
[10:31] <eck> jessid: if so you can use gconf-editor
[10:31] <AndyGee> !fglrx
[10:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:31] <jessid> eck: yes
[10:31] <VSpike> !dspam
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dspam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <ghaaly> crimsun, are you still there
[10:32] <crimsun> ghaaly: yes
[10:32] <eck> jessid: iirc you configure it in the metacity section
[10:32] <dhgwill> eck: thanks!
[10:32] <ghaaly> crimsun, ok hold on i'll give you the link now
[10:32] <AndyGee> What is started first when somone logs in on the graph. weclome screen ?
[10:32] <isola009> how to disable sounds in gdm???
[10:32] <jessid> eck: ah prety nice!!! thanks a lot!!
[10:32] <ghaaly> crimsun, http://www.pastebin.ca/441685
[10:33] <ghaaly> crimsun, here's the complete output for what you want
[10:33] <reiki> trying to upgrade DApper to Edgy using the gksu "update-manager -c" method as per the instructions. It fails to find freecontrib.org and everything stops with an error.
[10:34] <knoppix> question for you folks: anyone know how to disable "sound" previews when you mouse over a music file in nautilus?
[10:34] <x2Fusion> Download today, http://beam.to/picy
[10:34] <crimsun> ghaaly: ok, I'll be ~10 minutes. Very busy ATM.
[10:34] <jared_> I accidently deleted the  task bar from my panel, how do I added it again? When I go into the add to panel spot, i don't see it
[10:34] <LordLimecat> can someone ban x2fusions ip?
[10:35] <LordLimecat> he keeps comin in here under diff names
[10:35] <VSpike> Anyone use dspam with ubuntu?  When I pipe a mail into with the --stdout flag, it doesn't seem to add any headers to the mail at all.  If I type "dspam_stats" I get nothing.  Am I missing something I have to do to enable it?
[10:35] <ghaaly> crimsun, ok I'll be waiting for you but don't forget
[10:35] <chowmeined> hashes always have collisions...
[10:35] <LordLimecat> or his ip range?
[10:35] <mattman218> wow i need some help with this new project of mine, anyone wanna help?
[10:35] <jared_> I accidently deleted the  task bar from my panel, how do I added it again? When I go into the add to panel spot, i don't see it... Anyone know how to add it again?
[10:36] <crimsun> ghaaly: just ping me in 15 minutes, please
[10:36] <mattman218> i'm tryin ti install k9copy in gnome...
[10:36] <jared_> anybody...?
[10:36] <chowmeined> jared_: its called "window list"
[10:36] <jared_> ok
[10:36] <chowmeined> in the add to panel area
[10:37] <mattman218> anyone?
[10:37] <sioux> hi
[10:37] <jared_> no, its not window list..
[10:37] <chowmeined> jared_: oh not that one?
[10:37] <chowmeined> what does it have on it?
[10:37] <jared_> window list is the buttons at the bottom. I'm talking about the thing in the top right
[10:37] <chowmeined> or.. what did it have on it?
[10:38] <chowmeined> oh.. notification area?
[10:38] <jared_> I dunno
[10:38] <jared_>  let me try that
[10:38] <chowmeined> where tray icons are?
[10:38] <jared_> yeah! thats it, where the tray icons are..
[10:38] <mattman218> anybody know how to install things from source code
[10:39] <chowmeined> mattman218: it isnt in synaptic?
[10:39] <assasukasse> what is the command to see which port an apps is using?
[10:39] <chowmeined> assasukasse: netstat -tua
[10:39] <jostoms> jostoms
[10:39] <mattman218> nope, there is a new version of the prog that i need
[10:39] <dooglus> what's a good application for viewing animated gifs?  I tried firefox, but it's very slow.
[10:39] <chowmeined> mattman218: ./configure; make; make install
[10:40] <chowmeined> mattman218: well.. you'd probably want ./configure && make && make install.. in case one of them has an error
[10:40] <mattman218> yeah, that won't work cuz it is based in kde, and i'm using gnome
[10:40] <jared_> how do I open something from the tray, when I can't se it tehre?
[10:40] <jared_> *there
[10:40] <mattman218> the proggy is k9copy
[10:40] <chowmeined> mattman218: well you'd need to install the kde development libraries
[10:40] <jessid> eck: and how can I specify the shortcut?
[10:40] <chowmeined> jared_: a program disappeared?
[10:40] <jared_> I think so :(
[10:40] <mattman218> when i try to ./configure, i get prefix errors
[10:41] <mattman218> ok
[10:41] <jared_> whats the kill command?
[10:41] <mattman218> that is what i need help with
[10:41] <mattman218> lol
[10:41] <hume> jared_, kill
[10:41] <chowmeined> jared_: killall 'progname'
[10:41] <Flannel> mattman218: What version are you looking to get?
[10:41] <marcin_ant> hi all
[10:41] <marcin_ant> I got pretty strange thing in my system
[10:41] <mattman218> umm... 1.1.1-3
[10:42] <chowmeined> mattman218: there is some command with apt-get to install the libraries needed to build it.. i dont remember it though
[10:42] <mattman218> i think that is the right number sequence
[10:42] <mattman218> i have a list of all of the dependencies
[10:42] <Ademan> anyone know what at-spi-registryd does?
[10:42] <marcin_ant> I got Core 2 Duo cpu 6400 that should run on 2.13GHz but cat /proc/cpuinfo says that my cpu is running with 1596 MHz
[10:42] <marcin_ant> could someone explain to me why?
[10:42] <chowmeined> mattman218: you can search for them in synaptic and install them
[10:42] <assasukasse> thanks
[10:42] <mattman218> i did
[10:43] <Flannel> mattman218: Believe that's in backports, no need to build from source
[10:43] <chowmeined> marcin_ant: some processors use dynamic speed adjustment to conserve power when they aren't being fully used
[10:43] <mattman218> backports?
[10:43] <jared_> wtf! it dissappeared and I can't kill it..
[10:43] <chowmeined> jared_: killall not working?
[10:43] <jared_> mope
[10:43] <jared_> *nope
[10:43] <chowmeined> jared_: can you find it in ps aux?
[10:43] <jared_> ps aux?
[10:43] <chowmeined> lists all the processes
[10:43] <reiki> trying to upgrade DApper to Edgy using the gksu "update-manager -c" method as per the instructions. It fails to find freecontrib.org and everything stops with an error.
[10:44] <mattman218> how do i do that?
[10:44] <clem__> are you guys using 2.6.17-11 or 2.6.17-10?
[10:44] <clem__> (in edgy I mean)
[10:44] <Flannel> mattman218: hmm.  Nope, -2 is in backports
[10:44] <Flannel> !prevu | mattman218, check that out
[10:44] <ubotu> mattman218, check that out: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[10:44] <jared_> nno, I can't seem to find it but I saw it start up when I staretd my comp and it just dissappeared...
[10:45] <chowmeined> then it might have died
[10:45] <jared_> I no it didn't close because it auto-signs me in and it says my profile is in use
[10:45] <chowmeined> try starting it again
[10:45] <mattman218> cool
[10:45] <ghaaly> crimsun, ping
[10:45] <Jeeves_Moss> has anyone figured out the Madwifi patch yet to fix the security hole?
[10:45] <mattman218> i
[10:45] <mattman218> i'll brb
[10:46] <chowmeined> jared_: try the command: ps u
[10:46] <jared_> ok
[10:46] <chowmeined> jared_: sorry, i meant ps x
[10:46] <sorcerer> umm .. iam using gaim ... and umm all the option like on msn .. the web cam link and .. all that stuff how can i use it ?
[10:46] <chowmeined> jared_: that should shorten the list
[10:46] <Cosmo_>  I downloaded the .debs for my brother 1840c printer since it is not on the list that comes up when adding a printer, but when I install the .deb it still doesn't come up on the list. What am I doing wrong?
[10:46] <jared_> I see it
[10:47] <chowmeined> jared_: the leftmost number is its pid.. type kill 'pid'
[10:47] <jared_> I think I killed it some other way..
[10:47] <ghaaly> crimsun, ping !
[10:47] <jared_> using kill wish because it said ti was called wish/ur/bin/amsn
[10:47] <jared_> *usr
[10:48] <crimsun> ghaaly: I'm on the phone.
[10:48] <ghaaly> crimsun, ok tyt
[10:48] <mattman218> SO GUYS, WHAT IS PREVU GOING TO DO FOR ME?
[10:48] <hypn0> sorcerer: it pidgin not gaim now :-)
[10:48] <ghaaly> crimsun, ping when you hang out
[10:48] <jared_> chowmeined,  thanks
[10:48] <vox754> !caps > mattman218
[10:49] <mattman218> oops
[10:49] <Tomcat_> hypn0: Still gaim, even in feisty ;)
[10:49] <mattman218> lol
[10:49] <appleswitch777> A friend is going to install Ubuntu, he's not a n00b, but should he wait till the Stable of Feisty comes out or will in-system updates do just as well as installing from the stable.
[10:49] <Ademan> anyone know what language the gnome network manager was written in?
[10:49] <sorcerer> hypn0: umm what see iam using it ,, from the defualt one that comes with ubuntu .. 6.10
[10:49] <crimsun> appleswitch777: he should wait.
[10:49] <sorcerer> hypn0: should i download it or something
[10:49] <Ademan> appleswitch777: why not wait? it's not too far off now
[10:49] <hypn0> and I don't think webcams are supported in pidgin yet sorcerer
[10:49] <chowmeined> Ademan: i think it might be python
[10:50] <Ademan> thats what i was thinking, it's taking up 50mb of memory, that's rediculous
[10:50] <Donovan> is there any way to mount an ISO file as a virtual DVD-ROM under Ubuntu Linux? I know you can with Windows XP if you have the right tool.
[10:50] <crimsun> ghaaly: ok, please add your /proc/asound/card0/codec* contents to that paste
[10:50] <chowmeined> Donovan: mount -o loop nameoffile.sio /location/to/put/it
[10:51] <chowmeined> iso*
[10:51] <hypn0> sorcerer: try amsn, or kopete, there was another one too, they are supposed to support webcams in msn
[10:51] <DigitalNinja> If I do an OEM install on a drive can I take the drive out, stick it in another system?
[10:51] <Donovan> rock on thanks
[10:51] <sorcerer> kopete .. huh ill check it out
[10:52] <eck> DigitalNinja: check your support contract
[10:52] <VSpike> Do I need the dspam daemon running in order to use dspam?
[10:52] <help> what is a good program for authoring video dvd's?
[10:52] <eck> VSpike: that is the recommended way to run it
[10:52] <grondinm> hello i am quit new to using linux and i need some help installing my Nvidia video card drivers
[10:52] <eck> VSpike: strictly speaking you do not need it; for example, you can filter your mail messages though it with your mail client and not run the daemon
[10:52] <chowmeined> sorcerer: it does have webcam support but.. it is kind of flaky.. but its pretty much the only decent thing to support webcams .. (except amsn which only supports them for msn.. and it uses Tcl/TK which looks awful ;(
[10:53] <VSpike> eck : I want to filter messages through it using maildrop
[10:53] <DigitalNinja> eck: I would be the one doing the OEM install of Ubuntu. There isn't a support contract
[10:53] <snarfer> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130717-pg,1/article.html
[10:53] <snarfer> That's not good.
[10:53] <shawn34> i have a amd, should i install the k7 kernal or the 386 kernal? the generic kernal is installed currently
[10:53] <regress> I'm running an "awk" command which pipes to a "sed" command, and I want to alphabetize the output...any suggestions?
[10:53] <regress> should I use awk to sort the output?
[10:53] <chowmeined> DigitalNinja: linux is pretty good about hardware changes
[10:53] <DigitalNinja> I just want to do the install on the drive. Give the drive to someone else and allow them to run Linux
[10:53] <DigitalNinja> on their system
[10:53] <help> i don't want to download 10 programs to find one good one... any suggestions?  need to make dvd's to play in dvdplayer
[10:53] <eck> VSpike: are you using maildrop with an mta, or in conjunction with something like fetchmail?
[10:53] <regress> or is there an easier command in bash to do it?
[10:53] <snarfer> regress: sort
[10:53] <Hansel> regress http://www.dbforums.com/showthread.php?t=748897
[10:53] <grondinm> can anyone help me?
[10:54] <eck> DigitalNinja: then i think it should be fine
[10:54] <VSpike> eck: for some reason in the default install, there's a file /etc/default/dspam containing the line "START=no" which seems to prevent it running when you do "/etc/init.d/dspam start"
[10:54] <regress> haha
[10:54] <chowmeined> regress: sort
[10:54] <regress> sort is a bash command?!
[10:54] <DigitalNinja> chowmeined: I know. I'm just making sure I won't run into any problems
[10:54] <chowmeined> its a standard program
[10:54] <regress> wow
[10:54] <regress> quite cool, haha
[10:54] <shawn34> anyone?
[10:54] <E42> hi guys !
[10:54] <DigitalNinja> eck: Will it detect the video card etc...
[10:54] <chowmeined> regress: like uniq (removes duplicates).. theres one that does spellcheck too
[10:54] <E42> is there any program with i can save the sound from .wmv .avi and .mpeg files?
[10:54] <VSpike> eck: I'm running fetchmail -> postfix -> maildrop for delivery
[10:54] <sorcerer> chowmeined:  dude then what do you think i should use coz i get on aim and msn alot .. i need  a cool program .. for that any suggestions
[10:54] <crimsun> ghaaly: let me know when you've added that information
[10:54] <chowmeined> DigitalNinja: if ubuntu would run on it already
[10:55] <Hansel> sorcerer gaim
[10:55] <DigitalNinja> chowmeined: I see
[10:55] <eck> VSpike: why does fetchmail deliver to postfix?
[10:55] <foug> is anyone here good with gaim?
[10:55] <kota> Does anyone know of a good proxy checker that works for ubuntu?
[10:55] <chowmeined> sorcerer: but gaim has no webcam support if you need it...
[10:55] <shawn34> i have a amd, should i install the k7 kernal or the 386 kernal? the generic kernal is installed currently
[10:55] <Hansel> foug - ask a specific question and we will see
[10:55] <VSpike> eck: I'm not really sure.  can i get rid of postfix then?
[10:55] <Hansel> kota - define proxy checker.
[10:55] <regress> wow....well, I might as well ask if there's a way to count the instances of each unique string in the output too...I was planning to write some big script, but it might just be a command ro two it seems
[10:55] <chowmeined> shawn34: which amd processor?
[10:55] <foug> when using gaim and talking to certain friends their font is really small. When I used windows gaim had an option of ignoring font sizes, but I don't see it anywhere in ubuntu
[10:55] <eck> VSpike: yeah, maildrop is an lda
[10:56] <sorcerer> chowmeined: so what do you recomend instead then lol
[10:56] <kota> A program that checks proxies, to make sure that they work.
[10:56] <shawn34> how can i check?
[10:56] <kota> anominty isnt what i need.
[10:56] <Parabola> !games
[10:56] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[10:56] <chowmeined> sorcerer: kopete is the only chat program I know of that doesn't look awful(amsn) supports mulitple protocols and supports webcams
[10:56] <shawn34> chowmeined: how can i check
[10:56] <grondinm> can anyone help me in installing my Nvidia video card driver? i have the driver downloaded i just can't seem to get it to install
[10:56] <t0ms> Hi, I'm running feisty beta, is there an easy way to see how is set up my partition table?
[10:56] <ivx> hey i am trying to backup my /var/www/ folder to a usb drive. i open nautilus as sudo, and attemp to copy it, it tells me i don't have permission to read some of the files. shoudl i have permission to read them all like that
[10:56] <Hansel> t0ms - go to #ubuntu+1
[10:57] <LordLimecat> hey, for compiling the kernel...im in menuconfig right now, and have an AMD processor...hyperthreading doesnt have an AMD equivalent does it?  i can disable SMT schedualer with no loss?
[10:57] <chowmeined> shawn34: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
[10:57] <VSpike> eck: Oh. Ok.  Because I don't really want to use my machine for smtp, and it's really only a single user setup. so that would make more sense
[10:57] <eck> VSpike: you would do something like this http://spr.mahonri5.net/linux/dspam/
[10:57] <shawn34> chowmeined: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+
[10:57] <chowmeined> shawn34: yea you can use K7
[10:57] <chowmeined> shawn34: or K8 if they have it..
[10:57] <eck> VSpike: you have maildrop run dspam and then filter based on the header
[10:57] <shawn34> chowmeined: dont see k8
[10:58] <foug> is there a way to take off the window closing effect besides through gconf-editor?
[10:58] <shawn34> chowmeined: which package name should i look to install
[10:59] <sorcerer> chowmeined: aight man ill look into it right now
[10:59] <grondinm> anyone at all?
[10:59] <regress> wow........sort worked like a charm, thanks a lot
[10:59] <chowmeined> sorcerer: it should be in synaptic package manager so you dont have to compile it from source or anything
[10:59] <VSpike> eck: that's what I'm trying to do, and it should still work even with postfix in the middle, I think
[10:59] <chowmeined> grondinm: did you look in synaptic for it? you might want to try that first because it would be easier
[11:00] <shawn34> chowmeined: whats 'smp'
[11:00] <VSpike> eck: i think my dspam is broken, or I'm missing something really obvious.  If I pipe a message throught dspam by hand, it doesn't seem to add any headers
[11:00] <sorcerer> chowmeined: when you say compiling it from source and what not what do you mean by that .. you mean like .. sudo apt-get install kopete ?
[11:00] <kane77> grondinm, you can use the nvidia-glx package (or maybe legacy if you have older card)
[11:00] <lolman> smp is multi-processor, if you have dual/quad core or multiple processors you'll need it
[11:00] <chowmeined> shawn34: symmetric multiprocessing
[11:00] <shawn34> k
[11:00] <chowmeined> sorcerer: yea you can do that
[11:00] <grondinm> chowmeined no i did not but i am not sure what you are refering to tho
[11:01] <sorcerer> chowmeined: does that mean the same as compiling it from source
[11:01] <shawn34> so if i want k7 i install "kernal-image-k7" ?
[11:01] <RaverWild> hello people! newbie here running edgy. problem is when i want to switch on tty1..ttyn using key shortcuts -- i expected the screen to switch in textmode 80x25, but instead it is blank. friend told me to add vga option for startup. currently screen in ttyN shows something but it is not in text mode 80x25. how to make it in this video mode?
[11:01] <shawn34> so if i want k7 i install "kernal-image-k7" ?
[11:01] <chowmeined> sorcerer: oh i mean its available for ubuntu.. compiling from source would mean you need to download it from their website and build it yourself.. but you can just do apt-get
[11:01] <VSpike> eck: if I do dspam_stats or dspam_stats <user> I get nothing
[11:01] <kane77> grondinm, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[11:01] <Gon_oli> hi 4 all
[11:01] <eck> VSpike: i think you can make dspam log what it is doing to a log file
[11:02] <chowmeined> shawn34: wait one sec
[11:02] <shawn34> what about kernal-headers ?
[11:02] <kane77> grondinm, you'd need to reconfigure xorg to use nvidia driver...
[11:02] <chowmeined> shawn34: does that say 2.4 in it?
[11:02] <sorcerer> chowmeined: dont i really know how to program to do it myself i.e build it up from scratch ?
[11:02] <vox754> RaverWild, at the kernel boot parameter you add something like vga=792
[11:02] <shawn34> both do, kernal headers and kernal image
[11:02] <kane77> shawn34, I guess they arent called kernel-image but linux-image
[11:02] <chowmeined> grondinm: go to.. System > administration > synaptic package manager
[11:02] <chowmeined> grondinm: look in there for it
[11:03] <grondinm> kane77 so i can use the nvidia-glx and it shoudl wrok fine...but if i want to use the actual driver from nvidia i would need to reconfigure xorg
[11:03] <chowmeined> sorcerer: you can just use apt-get.. there is no need to build it from scratch
[11:03] <chowmeined> shawn34: yea use linux-image
[11:03] <chowmeined> shawn34: kernel-image is 2.4 (older kernel)
[11:03] <kane77> grondinm, either way you should reconfigure...
[11:03] <regress> alright, so the output of the few commands that I pipe to each other output this: http://rafb.net/p/NwRI8I98.html
[11:03] <Linuxnewbie756> jrib: sorry, i left a long time ago suddenly, how would i "parse the files" into a database?
[11:03] <regress> I would like to count each unique string, and find out how many times they occur in the source file
[11:04] <RaverWild> vox754,  is there some information on this vga parameter in case 792 does not work?
[11:04] <grondinm> kane77 so if i install glx from the add/remove then what would i need to do?
[11:04] <alindeman> Recommendations for a good music management software for Linux (i.e., play lists and podcasts)?
[11:04] <shawn34> install linux-image-k7, says "obsoleted by linux image generic
[11:04] <sorcerer> does anyone know much about gtkam .. coz i have a sony cybershot dsc-t1 and iwhen i choose it and click detect it says no camera found ???
[11:04] <kane77> grondinm, run: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:04] <shawn34> im so confused
[11:04] <arthur> Hi there everybody. I have Ubuntu crashing solid when I start Skype. Could anybody please tell me how to enable a chrash log in order to further investigate the problem?
[11:04] <chowmeined> shawn34: use linux-image-generic
[11:04] <Gon_oli> anybody know any server au with adelaide channel??????
[11:04] <regress> I was tinking of writing an awk script, or php, or something...which would add each line to an array, if the text wasn't already found in the array - that would give me all of the unique strings, then I would search for the number of occurences of that string in the original file
[11:04] <shawn34> chowmeined: why generic and not for amd?
[11:04] <chowmeined> shawn34: it will automagically pick the right one for you
[11:05] <vox754> RaverWild, there is on the internet and elsewhere, I can't recall exactly. There are hexadecimal parameters and decimal equivalents.
[11:05] <regress> is there an easier way that I'm missing, that perhaps some simple utility programs would make easier for me?
[11:05] <grondinm> kane77 ok thanx...so if i want to use the driver from nvidia how would i got about installing that?
[11:05] <kane77> grondinm, it's a wizard that will guide you, although you might have things to ask, however, choose nvidia as driver (instead of 'nv')
[11:05] <regress> heh, I just found uniq...that's great
[11:05] <regress> one step closer
[11:05] <chowmeined> regress: you can use a set structure.. which only will store unique data
[11:05] <chowmeined> object*
[11:05] <chowmeined> if php has sets that is..
[11:06] <billybobjoe> who in here has norton goback for windows?
[11:06] <RaverWild> vox754, thanks
[11:06] <grondinm> kane77 thanx man i will try it right now
[11:06] <sorcerer> coudl anyone help me with the gkam not detecting my camera please /?
[11:06] <kane77> grondinm, i'm looking at it and it's .run file so you would just make it executable (chmod +x filename) and run it ./flename
[11:06] <regress> heh, now that I'm about 70% done just using the terminal, I think it'd be a waste to go php now
[11:06] <regress> it seems I just need to learn a bit more and I should be able to finish it up using bash and the utilities
[11:06] <chowmeined> sorcerer: who makes your camera?
[11:06] <vox754> RaverWild, here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258484&highlight=kernel+booting+parameters
[11:06] <grondinm> kane77 ok can it be run from within X
[11:06] <kane77> grondinm, although I always install the ubuntu package (from repositories)
[11:07] <billybobjoe> can someone help me with norton goback?
[11:07] <Jaso1> Tried to install 2nd hard-drive. I installed ubuntu to both hardrives but believe that the 2nd hard-drive is non-functional... we have disconnected it. Now when we boot up with second hard-drive disconnected we get a blinking cursor. I'm pretty sure that GRUB is trying to boot to second harddrive..(the second harddrive was slave...the primary drive is master) When we press the F2 key...it takes about 4 minutes but boots into ubuntu.
[11:07] <chowmeined> regress: there are so many standard *nix utilities that do so many things.. there usually is something that performs each task.. and then you can just chain them up with a script
[11:07] <kane77> grondinm, yes, but then you have to restart x for things to start work
[11:07] <regress> yeah, it seems that way...I'm really impressed
[11:07] <scorpion402> ello
[11:07] <regress> I love *nix utilities
[11:08] <grondinm> kane77 ok so what would you recomend...that i use the nvidia driver or the glx?
[11:08] <sorcerer> chowmeined: sony dcs -t1 is my model number and i have gtkam installed and it doesnt detect when i choose the model and click detect
[11:08] <chowmeined> grondinm: the nvidia driver is not open source.. the glx driver doesn't support 3D
[11:08] <billybobjoe> I am very confused can some one help me no 1 is talking to me!
[11:08] <kane77> grondinm, I suggest the glx driver from synaptic/(add/remove)
[11:08] <clem__> I can't find documentation on ubuntu repositories... and what they contain. edgy-security, edgy-updates, edgy-backports... anyone?
[11:09] <adaptr> !repositories
[11:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:09] <mjr> chowmeined, you're confused about what glx means
[11:09] <grondinm> kane77 ok so if i want to use beryl would i need the nvidia driver or will it work with just glx?
[11:09] <vox754> !repeat > billybobjoe
[11:09] <vox754> !patience > billybobjoe
[11:09] <chowmeined> mjr: ok, then tell me
[11:09] <kane77> grondinm, yes it will work with glx.. (I use compiz, but that is just the same thing...)
[11:09] <regress> chowmeined: It seems grep and uniq will do pretty much everything I need
[11:09] <kane77> !ask | billybobjoe
[11:10] <ubotu> billybobjoe: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:10] <chowmeined> sorcerer: oh its a digital camera...
[11:10] <grondinm> kane77, ok so i will install the glx from add/remove then what was the command i needed to run again?
[11:10] <clem__> adaptr: that doesn't explain what the repositories are for, it only explains what the components are..
[11:10] <billybobjoe> I cant got on windows, because norton goback is blocking it
[11:10] <billybobjoe> can ne one help with this?
[11:10] <regress> just one more question to finish this section up - if I have a file with a several lines, how can I pass each of those lines, individually, to a grep comman, and store the output of each?
[11:10] <Jaso1> When we press the F2 key...it takes about 4 minutes but boots into ubuntu.  Can Some One Help.  We have more documentation. Thank you
[11:10] <kane77> grondinm, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:10] <adaptr> clem__: erm they are for to get yourself more software, yes ?
[11:10] <sorcerer> chowmeined: yeah it is mate
[11:11] <sorcerer> chowmeined:  hwo do i get it to see it
[11:11] <grondinm> kane77 ok thank you for your help
[11:11] <chowmeined> regress: grep works a line at a time
[11:11] <kane77> grondinm, np
[11:11] <chowmeined> regress: it returns the whole line.. if any part of it matches
[11:11] <V|I|R|U|S>  ?
[11:11] <chowmeined> regress: sed can return parts of lines
[11:11] <chowmeined> regress: it also works a line at a time
[11:11] <billybobjoe> I cant get on windows...
[11:11] <adaptr> count yourself lucky.. mine broke AGAIN today
[11:11] <regress> yeah, but what I want is to use one file with several lines of text as an argument for grep to sarch for in another file
[11:11] <clem__> adaptr: I mean the diff between restricted/main/universe/multiverse is well documented, but I can't find info about edgy-security, edgy-backports, edgy-updates, what they're for, what they bring, if they're activated by default and what they contain.. and also if it's ok to run without them.
[11:12] <stephen> hey
[11:12] <regress> I think VIRUS might be irish...
[11:12] <adaptr> clem__: the extra repos are pretty self-explanatory... security does security fixes, i.e. yes, you want them
[11:12] <ivx> can anyone tell me why, even using the nautilus as sudo, i don't have permission to copy some files
[11:12] <adaptr> clem__: backports contain whatever has been back-ported from the next release
[11:12] <dooglus> ivx: nobody has permission to write to readonly filesystems, not ever root
[11:13] <dooglus> s/ever/even/
[11:13] <adaptr> clem__: and updates are less critical package updates
[11:13] <Jaso1> |F2| When we press the F2 key...it takes about 4 minutes but boots into ubuntu.
[11:13] <chowmeined> sorcerer: im not sure
[11:13] <clem__> adaptr: are xorg updates in security or updates ?
[11:13] <adaptr> clem__: that would depend on the nature of the update, obviously
[11:13] <chowmeined> sorcerer: try searching for articles... "ubuntu sony dcs gkam"
[11:13] <clem__> right.. :)
[11:13] <dooglus> clem__: that would depend on whether the updates were to fix security problems or not
[11:13] <linux_kid> After installing KDE alongside GNOME on ubuntu, the loading screen after grub now displays, "kubuntu".  How do I change it back to Ubuntu??
[11:13] <ivx> dooglus, i am just rying to copy files to an external hd, shoudl i change them to writable also
[11:14] <clem__> dooglus: which ones come by default?
[11:14] <Jaso1> Boot Loader Problem When we press the F2 key...it takes about 4 minutes but boots into ubuntu.
[11:14] <dooglus> ivx: probably you need to mount the external drive readwrite, not readonly
[11:14] <VSpike> eck: there's something seriously broken with this.  I think the package is fubared
[11:14] <clem__> dooglus: I know backports is commented out, but are security and updates ?
[11:14] <dooglus> clem__: updates and security are on, backports is off, I believe
[11:14] <apocalyptica> hello
[11:14] <clem__> ok
[11:14] <ivx> dooglus, it lets me put some files on there, just not all of them, it is my /var/www folder, i think the web master made some of them read only then
[11:15] <clem__> one more silly question: would it be "safe" to turn off security updates ?
[11:15] <dooglus> ivx: try "touch /mnt/external/file" where /mnt/external is the path to the external drive
[11:15] <vox754> !usplash
[11:15] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:15] <apocalyptica> i have a laptop with ubuntu on it, the latest release of 6.10, (just installed yesterday), and for some reason the device manager wont open.
[11:15] <Jaso1> When we press the F2 key...it takes about 4 minutes but boots into ubuntu.
[11:15] <ghaaly> crimsun, I'm back
[11:15] <dooglus> ivx: ok, so you have write permission.  I'd use "ls -l" on the files to see their permissions.  I'm not sure what the gui way would be.
[11:15] <nick_> rythmbox is giving me duplicate entries for abunch of my mp3's any ideas?
[11:15] <Linuxnewbie756> i have over 600 .txt files in a folder, can i somehow combine them all into one text file?
[11:16] <clem__> thanks for your answers adaptr and dooglus
[11:16] <ghaaly> crimsun, please help me I'm getting screwed of this problem
[11:16] <chowmeined> nick_: delete them all from the library (not file on disk) and rescan the directory
[11:16] <ivx> alright dooglus, thanks i'll get it sorted out
[11:16] <ooglaboogla> is the app m-a (module assistant) available for ubuntu somewhere
[11:16] <ghaaly> FOLKS my sound device doesn't work in my laptop
[11:16] <ghaaly> there's no output
[11:16] <adaptr> !sound
[11:16] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:16] <apocalyptica> can anyone help me out?
[11:16] <ghaaly> driver module is loaded already but no output
[11:16] <retarded> how am i going to convert windows addicts to use ubuntu ??
[11:17] <nick_> chowmeined: i tried that, but i guess i can try again, do you have the option that automatically finds new music enalbed
[11:17] <vox754> Linuxnewbie756, here http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[11:17] <adaptr> retarded: depends on what they are addicted to - if it's instability, just build a custom crash_daily script for them :)
[11:17] <Cosmo_>  I downloaded the .debs for my brother 1840c printer since it is not on the list that comes up when adding a printer, but when I install the .deb it still doesn't come up on the list. What am I doing wrong?
[11:17] <chowmeined> Linuxnewbie756: cat *.txt >> /home/you/everything.txt
[11:17] <Hansel> retarded next time you are cleaning up their spyware tell them "you know with Linux you wouldn't have these problems"
[11:17] <Jaso1> retarded Windows be have to evolve or perish
[11:18] <Linuxnewbie756> vox754: so what, you want me to write a script?
[11:18] <adaptr> Cosmo_: what kind of deb would you need for a printer ? doesn't linuxprinting have it ?
[11:18] <Hansel> retarded then whip out your bright shiny Linux laptop and be like "behold!"
[11:18] <adaptr> "behold, I can't even get in the IntarWeb with this damn laptop!"
[11:18] <apocalyptica> i have a laptop with ubuntu on it, the latest release of 6.10, (just installed yesterday), and for some reason the device manager wont open.
[11:18] <Cosmo_> adaptr: I couldn't find it on the list, the deb is what the brother site had
[11:18] <adaptr> it doesn't get much safer than that
[11:18] <vox754> Linuxnewbie756, well, probably that is the best way to do it. A for loop and then redirect outputs, I guess... Depends on what you really want to do.
[11:18] <linuxx> does anyone know a solution for "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!" ??? I've been searching google for almost 4 hours now
[11:18] <adaptr> Cosmo_: bad, bad, bad.. well, last resort, really
[11:19] <adaptr> linuxx: the problem is simple: you don't have it loaded
[11:19] <Linuxnewbie756> chowmeined: what is that? will it work, and how can i use it?
[11:19] <Jaso1> Tried to install 2nd hard-drive. I installed ubuntu to both hardrives but believe that the 2nd hard-drive is non-functional... we have disconnected it. Now when we boot up with second hard-drive disconnected we get a blinking cursor. I'm pretty sure that GRUB is trying to boot to second harddrive..(the second harddrive was slave...the primary drive is master) When we press the F2 key...it takes about 4 minutes but boots into ubuntu.
[11:19] <adaptr> linuxx: the solution MAY be simple: do a "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[11:19] <Linuxnewbie756> chowmeined: wait, never mind, it works
[11:19] <chowmeined> Linuxnewbie756: cat outputs the context of the file *.txt (everything that ends in .txt... ) and >> appends to another file /home/you/somefile.txt
[11:19] <chowmeined> yea it does..
[11:19] <linuxx> adaptr, it doesnt even work when I add nvidia to /etc/modules
[11:19] <Andy9215> when I install ubuntu it deletes windows right?
[11:20] <chowmeined> glad you want to know why..
[11:20] <adaptr> linuxx: that's not what I said
[11:20] <chowmeined> so you can use it again in the future
[11:20] <adaptr> Andy9215: erm.. no
[11:20] <Andy9215> I wanna delete my windows and install ubuntu
[11:20] <chowmeined> Andy9215: no
[11:20] <chowmeined> Andy9215: well you can choose to do that
[11:20] <Suurorca> Andy9215: only if you keep clicking yes to all questions...
[11:20] <adaptr> Andy9215: then opt for that during the install
[11:20] <LordLimecat> when compiling the kernel, should ext3 be built as a module, or built in?
[11:20] <jeeves_Moss> has anyone figured out the security issue with the Athroes WiFi cards?
[11:20] <retarded> well i catched myself installing virtual box to run xp tho :(
[11:20] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: best to build that in.. not module.. unless you have a initramfs
[11:21] <adaptr> LordLimecat: if your root partition is ext3, methinks you'd better build it in...
[11:21] <linuxx> adaptr, so adding "modprobe nvidia" to /etc/rc.local should work, shouldnt it?
[11:21] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: but even still its easier to build it in.. and you will always be using it so..
[11:21] <adaptr> linuxx: no, because you still have not done what I told you to
[11:21] <LordLimecat> thats what i thought...but its set as module by default in make menuconfig...and initramfs isnt selectable
[11:21] <Jaso1> Armyriad: Can help me. Tried to install 2nd hard-drive. I installed ubuntu to both hardrives but believe that the 2nd hard-drive is non-functional... we have disconnected it. Now when we boot up with second hard-drive disconnected we get a blinking cursor. I'm pretty sure that GRUB is trying to boot to second harddrive..(the second harddrive was slave...the primary drive is master) When we press the F2 key...it takes about 4 minutes but 
[11:21] <LordLimecat> only real benefit to module is "loaded on demand" right
[11:22] <Parabola> Jaso1,  have you tried resetting up grub?
[11:22] <adaptr> linuxx: run "lsmod | grep nvidia", if that comes up empty, run "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[11:22] <jeeves_Moss> anyone?  WiFi issues?
[11:22] <linuxx> adaptr, it doesnt come up empty, because nvidia is loaded
[11:22] <armyriad> Jasol: Sorry but I don't know how to help you.
[11:22] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: pretty much.. but if you system uses ext3 .. you are always using that so there is no point to load on demand for something you always use
[11:22] <adaptr> linuxx: which one
[11:22] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: plus modules tend to be slightly slower
[11:22] <linuxx> adaptr, the one from nvidia.com
[11:22] <ctkroeker> I want to use Muse streamer and a soundrecorder script simultaniously on the same computer, both taking the same source, line in on one sondcard. Right now if I try it it conflicts and says the soundcard is in use (by the one that get's it first).
[11:23] <RaverWild>  people another problem: the sound driver i am default with on edgy seems to not work properly cause it plays only on the right speaker. does anyone could help with ideas on what to do? newbie here
[11:23] <LordLimecat> oh! that was good to know, thanks :D
[11:23] <adaptr> linuxx: that's not very smart, nor necessary
[11:23] <Jaso1> Parabola: Yes, we tried reinstalling ubuntu...is there another way to reset grub??
[11:23] <adaptr> linuxx: stick with the ubuntu-provided version
[11:23] <Parabola> Jaso1,  yes sir there is :)
[11:23] <adaptr> Jaso1: god yes, of course there is
[11:23] <adaptr> poor sod
[11:23] <LordLimecat> last question....XFS is "better" in most regards than ext3, correct (except perhaps stability?)?
[11:23] <Jaso1> Parabola: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409918     here is more detail about my configuratiuon..might save you time??? Thanks!!! :)
[11:23] <Parabola> Jaso1,  boot up the ubuntu cd to the live desktop, mount your installed partition
[11:23] <crimsun> ghaaly: did you attach the additional information I requested?
[11:23] <adaptr> LordLimecat: define "better"
[11:23] <linuxx> adaptr, I know, but when I try to install nvidia-glx, apt wants to remove a lot of packages like xserver-xorg, vlc, and a lot of libs
[11:24] <LordLimecat> faster, less overhead
[11:24] <Parabola> Jaso1,  one sec i'll read the link
[11:24] <LordLimecat> stable "enough"
[11:24] <Jaso1> thanks!
[11:24] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: it is faster in certain situations.. it has some cool unique features
[11:24] <Parabola> np
[11:24] <Andy9215> Should I use KillDisk to wipe my harddrive?
[11:24] <stephen> whats the command to play a sound file?
[11:24] <LordLimecat> alright
[11:24] <adaptr> linuxx: drop to a console, remove the nvidia driver, and aptitude install linux-restricted-modules && nvidia-glx, that should take care of it
[11:24] <ghaaly> crimsun, you didn't request anything except the link I've mentioned
[11:24] <LordLimecat> cause 2gb of overhead for ext3 is pretty harsh :(
[11:24] <ghaaly> crimsun, that consist of all the output of the neccessary information
[11:25] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: if you want to try it out.. make another partition with it.. and play around with it.. but ext3 is default on almost all linux distros.. so nothing compares in terms of tested and stable
[11:25] <stephen> is there a way to play a sound file in linux through console with no gui?
[11:25] <adaptr> LordLimecat: I think it depends hugely on th e kind of applications you run on it
[11:25] <apocalyptica> i could really use some help with my device manager
[11:25] <apocalyptica> it wont open
[11:25] <wdr1_> hi all... trying to configure my linksys wireless card:  does it matter if the device name is ra0 vs. wlan0  \
[11:25] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: 2GB of overhead?.. no...
[11:25] <adaptr> stephen: use "play" ?
[11:25] <adaptr> stephen: sndplay, or summin like that
[11:25] <LordLimecat> that was my understanding, that ext3=rock solid, xfs=faster
[11:25] <stephen> adaptr, I'll try it
[11:25] <adaptr> LordLimecat: where did you get that "understanding" ?
[11:25] <xtknight> we can't use images in the Ubuntu wiki?
[11:25] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: 5% is reserved for superuser be default (in case it fills up, so it doesn't crash the system)
[11:25] <sorcerer> doesnyt any one knwo hwo o get this digital camera installed on ubuntu .. i used GTkam .. but doesnt redonize the camera ???
[11:25] <LordLimecat> numerous reviews
[11:25] <ghaaly> crimsun, ?
[11:25] <linuxx> adaptr, any hints on removing it? since its not an deb or such
[11:26] <vox754> wdr1_, it doesn't matter, it maybe ra0 because it is a ralink chipset, you need to know the chipset
[11:26] <stephen> sndplay crashed
[11:26] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: so a standard user can't mess things up
[11:26] <apocalyptica> does anyone have any clue why my device manager wont open
[11:26] <adaptr> linuxx: use the provided uninstall script, or go to nvidia to find out ? I have no idea, I never install their versions
[11:26] <wdr1_> thx, vox... didn't think it was a big deal, but wanted to check (it's not working)
[11:26] <LordLimecat> chowmeined: that explains that chunk of space
[11:26] <zack-> Woot 7.04
[11:26] <ctkroeker>  I want to use Muse streamer and a soundrecorder script simultaniously on the same computer, both taking the same source, line in on one sondcard. Right now if I try it it conflicts and says the soundcard is in use (by the one that get's it first).
[11:26] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: but every partition should be that way.. for safety.. you can reduce it if you want
[11:26] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: if you only want 500MB or something..
[11:26] <Mandatory> Does anyone know why my headphone-jack isn't working (Its a Sigmatel sounddevice)
[11:26] <Apocalyptica00> hey
[11:27] <foug> is there a way to take off the window closing effect besides through gconf-editor?
[11:27] <stephen> adaptr, play doesn't crash but there is no sound
[11:27] <kane77> how do I reload the .bashrc?
[11:27] <adaptr> stephen: and the mixer is turned up ?
[11:27] <wdr1_> vox, does it tell me anything if i have in IPv6 address (inet6) IP, but no line for just inet?
[11:27] <LordLimecat> ah
[11:27] <adaptr> kane77: source it
[11:27] <foug> stephen: is your sound not working? has it ever worked?
[11:27] <vox754> !leet this is wrong
[11:27] <Apocalyptica00> My device manager will not openn
[11:27] <LordLimecat> live and learn :D
[11:28] <stephen> YES it has I've played movies and other songs and flash movies and such
[11:28] <stephen> it all works
[11:28] <ghaaly> crimsun, alive ?
[11:28] <Apocalyptica00> will someone please help me before i go insane
[11:28] <foug> stephen: it just stopped working?
[11:28] <stephen> nope
[11:28] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: tune2fs -m 2% /dev/hda1 or whichever
[11:28] <Apocalyptica00> can anyone even see what i am writing
[11:28] <stephen> foug, playing that 70s show
[11:28] <stephen> i hear it fine
[11:29] <foug> o
[11:29] <retarded> ok last not ubuntu related question . could you name a channel where you can have a laugh ??
[11:29] <stephen> wait
[11:29] <stephen> no no more sound now
[11:29] <vox754> wdr1_, I think you may have problems with IPv6
[11:29] <wdr1_> anyone know why my wireless setup would have an inet6 IP but no entry for inet?  (checking via ifconfig)
[11:29] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, yes i see it
[11:29] <stephen> foug, no no more sound now
[11:29] <LordLimecat> ill try that (after getting my kernel compiled and working
[11:29] <Apocalyptica00> thank god
[11:29] <stephen> foug, what happened?
[11:29] <foug> stephen: it just stops working randomy? i dunno aobut that one
[11:29] <vox754> !ipv6 > wdr1_
[11:29] <Apocalyptica00> can you help me out
[11:29] <Crazytom> wdr1_, what chipset is the card?
[11:29] <chowmeined> wdr1_: if dhcp wasn't working properly.. ipv6 gives a standard address based on the mac address that is used in the local network
[11:29] <foug> stephen: mine stopped working last night but it was because it got muted somehow. I went into alsamixer and unmuted all my chanels and it worked
[11:29] <stephen> foug, no it stopped working when I issued the command play
[11:30] <foug> stephen: ahh
[11:30] <chowmeined> wdr1_: so ipv6 should always have an address
[11:30] <crimsun> ghaaly: no, I asked you to add /proc/asound/card0/codec*
[11:30] <wdr1_> it's a linksys card, i believe ra chipset?
[11:30] <stephen> foug, any Idea?
[11:30] <tjcarter> Gotta love Debian-based systems!  I told it to install hplip.  I get:
[11:30] <tjcarter> 0 upgraded, 94 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:30] <DeedleFake3690> Hello, I am trying to get a Belkin Wi-Fi card (Broadcom chipset: bcm43xx) to work. I've gotten it to the point where I can see all the other networks around me, and I can connect to unencrypted and WEP-encrypted networks using network manager, but I can't connect to WPA-encrypted networks. I can see them but not connect.
[11:30] <Apocalyptica00> Crazytom: Do you know why my device manager stopped working
[11:30] <wdr1_> ah, so getting an IPv6 doesn't really say anything
[11:30] <foug> stephen: not a clue man, i'm kind of new to linux tbh
[11:30] <VSpike> eck: added myself to dspam group and logged out/in which has helped.  Also fixed perms on /var/log/dspam to allow write for dspam group whihc allows debug output to write there... but still not working properly
[11:30] <tjcarter> 94 packages installed for hplip.
[11:30] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, sorry i don't
[11:30] <stephen> foug, me too... lol
[11:30] <Apocalyptica00> thanks
[11:30] <tjcarter> On A Server.
[11:30] <ghaaly> ghaaly, again
[11:30] <chowmeined> tjcarter: try disabling the option: "Install all recommended packages"
[11:30] <ghaaly> crimsun, request again
[11:30] <stephen> ANYONE KNOW STUFF ABOUT SOUND? #sound?
[11:30] <foug> does anyone kjnow how i can take off window closing and opening effects besides through gconf-editor?
[11:30] <VSpike> eck: "cat spamtestmessage | dspam --classify" should output something, right?
[11:31] <ghaaly> crimsun, What do you want me to do exactly ?
[11:31] <LordLimecat> stephen: try #alsa
[11:31] <ghaaly> crimsun, comand
[11:31] <chowmeined> tjcarter: if this is aptitude.. it has that option on by default
[11:31] <crimsun> ghaaly: ? I just told you what you need to attach.
[11:31] <tjcarter> chowmeined: no, generally not doing that is a bad thing.
[11:31] <ghaaly> crimsun, give me the command
[11:31] <Crazytom> wdr1_, do you know what chipset your wireless card is?
[11:31] <tjcarter> chowmeined: I'm just pointing out the linking madness
[11:31] <chowmeined> tjcarter: no recommended packages are just thinks they 'like' to have.. not things they need (dependencies)
[11:32] <tjcarter> chowmeined: I recall having this discussion ages ago with Culus.
[11:32] <wdr1_> crazy, ra?
[11:32] <tjcarter> chowmeined: suggests are things you would like to have, recommended are things you should have unless you damned well know better.
[11:32] <wdr1_> i know the specific linksys model -- let me see if i can google & find the specific chipset
[11:32] <jmvidalvia> hello: one question. Do I need to open port 22 using NAT if I want to acces a remote PC using ssh or it is already opened by default?
[11:32] <ghaaly> crimsun, I've /proc/asound/card0/codec#0
[11:32] <jmvidalvia> I mean, open the port in the router
[11:32] <tjcarter> this is why as far back as dselect existed, it enforced recommends (as dependencies, mind)
[11:32] <crimsun> ghaaly: yes, now paste its contents into that page.
[11:33] <crimsun> ghaaly: then tell me the new url
[11:33] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: are you connecting to another machine? or want to connect to this one?
[11:33] <tjcarter> I don't know if it still does enforce them as dependencies.
[11:33] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: I want to connect to another machine
[11:33] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: then you shouldn't need to open anything
[11:33] <LordLimecat> do sata/pata drivers need to be built in, or is module fine
[11:34] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: you probably want to have the drivers for your chipset compiled in
[11:34] <LordLimecat> alright, thanks
[11:34] <Jaso1> Parabola:  No hurry.  Just
[11:34] <ferronica> hi
[11:34] <tjcarter> I patched it not to, but my patches for dselect were rejected in general without reading them because IWJ didn't think someone who was still learning a language was compitent to patch his code.  ;)
[11:34] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: if you run 'lspci' you can see all the hardware you have (version) and it should match up to the things in make menuconfig
[11:34] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: will the router send my sign to the machine directly? Of course, I am trying to connect to a machine out of my lAN.
[11:34] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: also lsusb will show usb devices
[11:34] <Parabola> Jaso1,  sorry mate
[11:34] <Parabola> roomate called
[11:34] <Parabola> 1. Boot from a Live CD, like Ubuntu Live, Knoppix, Mepis, or similar.
[11:35] <Parabola> 2. Open a Terminal. Go SuperUser (that is, type "su"). Enter root passwords as necessary.
[11:35] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: your username and password?
[11:35] <Parabola> 3. Type "grub" which makes a GRUB prompt appear.
[11:35] <Parabola> 4. Type "find /boot/grub/stage1". You'll get a response like "(hd0)" or in my case "(hd0,3)". Use whatever your computer spits out for the following lines.
[11:35] <Parabola> 5. Type "root (hd0,3)".
[11:35] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: what do you mean?
[11:35] <LordLimecat> alright
[11:35] <Parabola> 6. Type "setup (hd0,3)". This is key. Other instructions say to use "(hd0)", and that's fine if you want to write GRUB to the MBR. If you want to write it to your linux root partition, then you want the number after the comma, such as "(hd0,3)".
[11:35] <LordLimecat> that works :D
[11:35] <Jaso1> Parabola:  We've already done this
[11:35] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: i am not sure what you are asking
[11:35] <Parabola> Jaso1,  oh
[11:35] <Jaso1> Parabola: it was in that link
[11:36] <DeedleFake3690> Hello, I am trying to get a Belkin Wi-Fi card (Broadcom chipset: bcm43xx) to work with wpa encryption. I've gotten it to the point where I can see all the other networks around me, and I can connect to unencrypted and WEP-encrypted networks using network manager, but I can't connect to WPA-encrypted networks. Any suggestions?
[11:36] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: the remote computer needs to have port 22 open for you to connect
[11:36] <ferronica> how do i remove openwith shortcut
[11:36] <Parabola> ah yes
[11:36] <Parabola> i didnt read the responses
[11:36] <Jaso1> Parabola: It is hd0,0 for us
[11:36] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: when you connect it will ask for your password.. if you need to use another username use: ssh you@somwhere.com
[11:36] <sorcerer> hey whats the server called gimp .. something ?
[11:36] <chowmeined> somewhere..
[11:36] <ferronica> i have uninstalled xmms but it showing with OPENWITH
[11:37] <mattman218> hello everyone
[11:37] <Spee_Der> hi matt
[11:37] <tjcarter> chowmeined: I think mostly I'm complaining that installing hplip should not pull in as recommends all of the KDE and Gnome client stuff, mostly.
[11:37] <mattman218> i have an installing quesion
[11:37] <Jaso1> Parabola: Wounder what I'm missing.  Thanks. Any other suggestions?
[11:37] <Spee_Der> matt. ask away
[11:38] <Parabola> Jaso1,  i honestly dont know
[11:38] <mattman218> ok, i'm trying to install k9copy 1.1.1-3
[11:38] <tjcarter> that should be done as part of a desktop-printing-gnome or desktop-printing-kde package
[11:38] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: sorry. I am managing 50 laptops from my salesmen. till now I used reverse-vnc, so I didn't need to open any port in their routers. I just discovered ssh and wondered if i could just acces their computer (I have user and pasword, of course) if they just install openssh-server, but I was afraid they also sould open port 22 in their routers, as they don't know how to do that.
[11:38] <chowmeined> tjcarter: yea that was a complaint in feisty.. the icon showed up but pyqt wasn't installed (ubuntu.. no kde stuff) but one of the tools in hplip is a gui program
[11:38] <Parabola> Jaso1,  have you taken out the 2nd hard drive and tried it?
[11:38] <kofler> How would I prevent a program from starting up at boot?
[11:38] <mattman218> it's not in any repositry, or backport
[11:38] <kofler> Like lighttpd starts up at boot and I don't want it to start until certain drives are mounted.
[11:38] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: yea, they would need to do that
[11:39] <tjcarter> chowmeined: right, if you're going to have mad proliferation of packages, proliferate them correctly.  =D
[11:39] <Jaso1> Parabola: Yes, still seem to have to press f2 to boot.
[11:39] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: :(
[11:39] <mattman218> i have a post related to this topin in the ubuntu forums
[11:39] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: thank-you vey much.
[11:39] <kofler> Anyone?
[11:39] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: i think there must be some way to do that with ssh though
[11:39] <z0man> Is ubuntu 7 beta worth installing now?
[11:39] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: google around for some tool that does that..
[11:39] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: i will too
[11:39] <ooglaboogla> anyone know how to install ubuntu and use encrypted partitions
[11:39] <ghaaly> crimsun, http://www.pastebin.ca/441826
[11:39] <Jaso1> Parabola:  What does f2 do and the key might be in it?
[11:39] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: thanks
[11:39] <ghaaly> crimsun, here's the new attachment link
[11:39] <kofler> z0man: I still have tons of issues with it. Graphics + wireless problems mostly though.
[11:39] <mattman218> any suggestions?
[11:40] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: aha! i found it
[11:40] <Andy9215> umm I just finished downloading ubuntu but I need to unrar it :/
[11:40] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: i have never tried this.. apparently its built into ssh
[11:40] <Andy9215> I don't see the images
[11:40] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: so quick!
[11:40] <tjcarter> chowmeined: I may run into that pretty significantly with my long-planned Ubuntu workgroup server project.
[11:40] <z0man> thx kofler....I plan on installing Ubuntu when those bugs are ironed out :)
[11:40] <wdr1_> i have the rt61 chipset... my wireless craps out on boot -- in fact, locks the machine... where/which log fiel should i look @ for specifics of what's going on?
[11:40] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/ssh_tunnelling.html
[11:40] <kofler> z0man: Edgy is still viable if you don't have that already.
[11:40] <Jaso1> Parabola: Are you out. Thank you.
[11:40] <z0man> I've 6.10 at the moment
[11:40] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: you need to have ssh open on your machine.. but then they type a command (you can make a script for them if you want)
[11:40] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: and you can reverse back into them
[11:40] <Spee_Der> matt, I see in apt that is a KDE project, I can not help, sorry mate.
[11:41] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: and they dont need to open a port
[11:41] <crimsun> ghaaly: looking.
[11:41] <mattman218> right, but it can be installed in gnome, i just need to get some headers for it or something
[11:41] <mattman218> the other versions worked for me
[11:41] <ghaaly> crimsun, ok
[11:41] <Raz> Anyone help me with an Ubuntu install? I have 6.10 normal and alt, 7.04, and I get bizarre, different errors with everything I do
[11:42] <Raz> It's a new computer with recent parts so I had to get the newer kernel to support my hardware
[11:42] <z0man> 7 is still beta you know :)
[11:42] <Spee_Der> matt, have you tried using synaptic for help also ? I have, and it works well....
[11:42] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: I see it is a similar system I am using now for graphical connection
[11:42] <greg_g> any ideas of tiff image support in Firefox on Edgy??
[11:42] <Apocalyptica00> i want to get my wireless card configured but i dont know if i have the right drivers or not
[11:42] <Apocalyptica00> how do i check?
[11:42] <andrew> Eh, I'm a nub...I'm reading about file permissions and getting a little confused as to how I can log on as the owner...It says I'm not
[11:42] <mattman218> how do i use that for help?
[11:42] <tjcarter> Raz: Suggestion is that if you don't know how to handle weirdness and specifically kernel weirdness, stick with 6.10 now.
[11:42] <Raz> well is it possible to use a newer linux kernel with 6.10?
[11:42] <kofler> Anyone?
[11:42] <Parabola> Jaso1,  i'm here man
[11:42] <Parabola> just thinking
[11:42] <Raz> i can get 6.10 to install and boot, it just doesn't have drivers for my network, etc
[11:42] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: thankyou very much. I am going to work on it.
[11:42] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: yea.. but ssh is nice.. with a console is is very very fast and responsive.. and you can run scripts to do maintenance ... also you do not disrupt the user
[11:42] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, what chipset do you have?
[11:42] <linuxx> adaptr, doesnt even work with nvidia-glx
[11:43] <Cam> andrew: Do you know how to get into your terminal?
[11:43] <tjcarter> Raz: it's possible, but do you need something newer than 2.6.17 for a particular purpose?
[11:43] <andrew> yes
[11:43] <Apocalyptica00> umm im not sure actually
[11:43] <Raz> Yes, driver suport
[11:43] <EXetoC> Hello. wich voip software is popular for ubuntu?
[11:43] <Raz> and 7.04 is all buggy on me
[11:43] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: plus it is encrypted and secure for use across the internet.. most VNC implementations are not encrypted
[11:43] <tjcarter> which drivers though?
[11:43] <Spee_Der> matt, by using synaptic, you can search for the proper files you are in need of, and if there is a problem with them, it will tell you.
[11:43] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, do lspci -v | grep Wireless
[11:43] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: you're right
[11:43] <Raz> Marvell ethernet mainly
[11:43] <tjcarter> ah.
[11:43] <Cam> andrew: you can log in as the owner by using the command sudo
[11:43] <linuxx> adaptr, or do I have more than just installing it and modifying xorg.conf?
[11:43] <mattman218> oh, ok
[11:43] <kofler> How would I prevent a program from starting up at boot?
[11:43] <kofler> Like lighttpd starts up at boot and I don't want it to start until certain drives are mounted.
[11:44] <tjcarter> That works around my brilliant solution, sorry  =)
[11:44] <Cam> andrew: after sudo type the name of the program you want to run...it will ask for your password
[11:44] <mattman218> i've already installed all of it's dependencies
[11:44] <wdr1_> is 'Driver using old /proc/net/wireless support, please fix driver!' something to worry about?
[11:44] <Raz> huh?
[11:44] <Apocalyptica00> it says Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[11:44] <Spee_Der> matt. I have used several KDE only files in Gnome quite well, not always, but quite often, becase of using synaptic.
[11:44] <crimsun> wdr1_: no.
[11:44] <kane77> how do I create tar.gz package? (-cvvf creates only .tar, how do I compress?)
[11:44] <andrew> I'm just trying to change file permissions....
[11:44] <Raz> But is there a way to use a newer linux kernal with an older distro?
[11:44] <Raz> kernel too
[11:44] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, have you installed ndiswrapper?
[11:44] <mattman218> when i try to ./configure it, it buggs out on me saying i have the wrong prefix
[11:44] <Cam> andrew: oh sorry..that is with the chmod command
[11:44] <EXetoC> popular voip software for Ubuntu, anyone? :)
[11:44] <Andy9215> when u finish downloading ubuntu wheres the .iso file ?
[11:44] <tjcarter> kane77: you forgot z.
[11:44] <Apocalyptica00> ill check
[11:44] <Cam> andrew: read about teh chmod command
[11:44] <andrew> I read it....
[11:44] <tjcarter> kane77: or you can run gzip on the result
[11:44] <kane77> tjcarter, of course! many thanx :D
[11:45] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, do ndiswrapper -l
[11:45] <andrew> ok just makeing sure i was looking at the right thing I can figure it out form here thanks
[11:45] <andrew> i get a missing command message..
[11:45] <kernel06> i'm trying to load in ibm thinkpad t20 with airlink mimo wireless card, everything works but not wireless.
[11:45] <Spee_Der> matt, that's the best I can do for now. Perhaps someone else is watching and will assist you with this....  Be patient please.
[11:45] <Apocalyptica00> command not found
[11:45] <wdr1_> if using dhclient, and it's doing a DHCPDISCOVER on 255.255.255.255 but i know my broadcast should be 255.255.255.0, is taht something to worry about?
[11:45] <ghaaly> crimsun, still looking
[11:45] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: just my last question. I have my server in text-mode only, no X. If I execute ssh -X ..... from another machine with X, will I be able to execute a graphical program?
[11:45] <Raz> 6.10 doesn't include my network drivers in the kernel, and 7.04 has the drivers I need, but it bugs out on me in some bizarre way every time I try to install it
[11:45] <mattman218> it's all good
[11:46] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: no you need to run xserver to view graphical applications
[11:46] <mattman218> i'm not upset or anything...
[11:46] <mattman218> lol
[11:46] <Raz> Does anyone know what I could possibly do to get around this
[11:46] <Apocalyptica00> its says command not found
[11:46] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: they reversed them.. xserver runs on whatever has a monitor and keyboard
[11:46] <Spee_Der> yep
[11:46] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: xclients run on whichever machine you connect to
[11:46] <Spee_Der> Time and patience always works.
[11:46] <regress> how can I check to make sure an argument was passed to my bash script?
[11:46] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: you could have graphical applications on your text-only server.. and you could remotely run them on another machine.. if it would ease management
[11:46] <Apocalyptica00> Crazytom, should i install them?
[11:47] <kofler> Does anyone know the answer to my question?
[11:47] <regress> something like "if @(! $1) then echo incorrect usage!"
[11:47] <sorcerer> how do i get a digital camera to be recodnized .. by ubuntu .. i instaled gtkam and .. it doesnt shows up when i do a lsusb .. in terminal .. i need to take down some pics please help me
[11:47] <ghaaly> crimsun, are you alive ?
[11:47] <chowmeined> sorcerer: does it have a memory card?
[11:47] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: clear as water. No Xserver, no X aplications, local or remote.
[11:47] <Linuxnewbie756> is there a way i can have thunderbird (or any addressbook) clear duplicate entries? basically i hae a 15000 entry address book, but there are 8 entries per person
[11:47] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, if the command wasn't found then you don't have ndiswrapper installed hold on
[11:47] <Apocalyptica00> k
[11:47] <Jaso1> We have to press the F2 key to boot to ubuntu. Seems like grub configured correctly.  It takes about 4 minutes but boots into ubuntu.  The following link is to our post.  Thank you for any assistance. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409918
[11:48] <Raz> :(
[11:48] <ditoa> just got 7.04 beta up and running in vmware workstation
[11:48] <ditoa> is running great so far :)
[11:48] <jessid> !nvidia
[11:48] <andrew> it says opperation not permitted when i try to change the permissions
[11:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:48] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[11:48] <kofler> How would I prevent a program from starting up at boot?
[11:48] <kofler> Like lighttpd starts up at boot and I don't want it to start until certain drives are mounted.
[11:48] <TinWoodsman> I'm trying to run an external hard drive on my computer. but it keeps telling me that I don't have permission to right to it. I can only read it. Can anyone help?
[11:48] <sorcerer> chowmeined: i dunno i guess so .,.
[11:48] <Hansel> kofler edit your init.d scripts in etc
[11:48] <foxiness> is there a console/terminal better then what it come by default wiht ubuntu ?
[11:48] <ghaaly> crimsun, alive ?
[11:48] <sorcerer> chowmeined: its a sony dcs-t1 camera ..
[11:48] <Hansel> kofler - if you want it to load last then put it in rc.local
[11:48] <ghaaly> crimsun, are you still looking in the link ?
[11:48] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: hey, wait, you mean I install let's say, firefox in my text-mode server, and run ssh -X firefox user@server (or similar order, does't matter) from my X laptop, will it run?
[11:49] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: it should
[11:49] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: you only need Xserver on the machine that has a monitor/keyboard/mouse
[11:49] <kofler> Hansel: That's not the right way to do it is it?
[11:49] <DeedleFake3690> Hi, I'm trying to get a Belkin (Broadcom chipset: bcm43xx.) to work, but I can only connect to unencrypted and WEP, but not to WPA. I can see them, but not connect. Any suggestions?
[11:49] <Andy9215> I don't see the ISO file when I downloaded ubuntu and I have WinRar
[11:49] <mattman218> how do i post a link here?
[11:49] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: you still need to install all the gnome libraries on the text-only server
[11:49] <kofler> Hansel: I want to prevent it from loading. The init script is called at boot.
[11:49] <Hansel> kofler - do you want a pretty gui interface?
[11:49] <kofler> Hansel: No, I meant editing /etc/init.d/* is an ugly way to do anything.
[11:49] <InnerFIRE> why arent there any channels with penguintv? do i have to add them?
[11:49] <sorcerer> chowmeined: i installed gtkam and selected the .. camera model and when i click .. detect dont do anything or not detected
[11:50] <Jaso1> I have to press the F2 key to boot to ubuntu. Seems like grub configured correctly.  It takes about 4 minutes but boots into ubuntu.  The following link is to our post.  Thank you for any assistance. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409918
[11:50] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: super clear now. Thanks a lot!
[11:50] <andrew> is there no remotely simple way to give myself permission to do whatever I want?
[11:50] <Hansel> andrew - sudo -i but it is NOT recommended at all.
[11:50] <kuja> How do I alias the font managed by Defoma?
[11:50] <tjcarter> jessid: That howto needs to be updated for nvidia_new (which seems to be an Ubuntuism as of Feisty and therefore not documented elsewhere..)
[11:50] <kuja> s/the font/a font/
[11:50] <mattman218> yeah, you can log on as root
[11:51] <Jaso1> Any hard-drive experts out there?  Grub problems.  Thanks
[11:51] <kuja> For example, I would like to alias Courier New as Courier
[11:51] <kuja> Jaso1: Just ask a question, someone should be around to help.
[11:51] <z0man> Is it me or is Ubuntu getting faster on their updates and upgrades :p
[11:51] <tjcarter> in fact, the thing probably hasn't seen an update since Dapper.
[11:51] <AmyRose> Jaso1: What's the problem?
[11:51] <kuja> z0man: Are you using Feisty?
[11:51] <jessid> !nvidia_new
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia_new - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <chowmeined> sorcerer: if you have a memory card reader.. and use the memory card.. it is treated as a portable drive and nearly always works automatically
[11:51] <LordLimecat> chowmeined: one more issue :( make menuconfig+make-kpkg clean worked like 1 hr ago,...but i made mistakes, so i deleted the linux linked dir and the source dir, and restarted
[11:51] <tjcarter> parts of it, anyway
[11:51] <LordLimecat> now i get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15869/
[11:52] <sorcerer> chowmeined: well it goes into a cradle .. but doesntdetect it at all on my system
[11:52] <z0man> I mean in the sense of comparing distro's
[11:52] <jessid> tjcarter: so what do you recommend?
[11:52] <LordLimecat> its all lowercase as far as i can see :(
[11:52] <eTiger13> >	anyone know how i can get my screen resolution to change? it boots to the login screen, but i can only see half of it and the half i do see looks like 4 bit color and is all distorted.
[11:52] <sorcerer> chowmeined: i mean i could do this on windows .. but i just moved to ubuntu and i wann make this my primary dektop and use windows souly only for games
[11:52] <chowmeined> sorcerer: have you looked on sony's site for linux drivers?
[11:52] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: could you paste the contents of .config?
[11:52] <sorcerer> umm no i should let me check
[11:53] <andrew> how do I log on as root...
[11:53] <ardchoille> !sudo | andrew
[11:53] <ubotu> andrew: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:53] <Hansel> andrew - sudo -i
[11:53] <Hansel> andrew - you can set a root password but it is NOT recommended or supported by Ubuntu.  If things go wrong we likely wont be able to help
[11:53] <ardchoille> andrew: You don't, there is no need to do that.. using sudo is the best way to perform admin tasks.
[11:53] <LordLimecat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15871/
[11:53] <jpsamara> Is the release delayed.,, due to the delay of the Feisty RC?
[11:53] <DeedleFake3690> Hi, I'm trying to get a Belkin (Broadcom chipset: bcm43xx.) to work, but I can only connect to unencrypted and WEP, but not to WPA. I can see them, but not connect. Any suggestions? I'm using network manager.
[11:53] <LordLimecat> chowmeined: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15871/
[11:53] <andrew> alright thanks ardchoille
[11:54] <Comrade-Sergei> whats the command to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[11:54] <andrew> it still doesn't let me write to the folder...
[11:54] <jpsamara> andrew: you can always do sudo su - it has the same effect as opening a root terminal
[11:54] <Hansel> Comrade-Sergei there are how-to's on the ubuntu wiki.  Usually you point your apt.sources to the new versions repositories then do a dist-upgrade
[11:55] <Comrade-Sergei> Hansel um yea how?
[11:55] <kernel06> anyone pls. help me to figure out airlink mimo wireless pcmcia card in 6.10. everything works besides this card. the driver is loaded and i input ssid and password. still doesn't work.
[11:55] <kingcobra> hello
[11:55] <LordLimecat> wait, this is all wrong, its not loading the right config......i deselected a lot of these options
[11:55] <Comrade-Sergei> whats the command to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[11:55] <dreadu> hey, can anyopne help me? when i add .asoundrc to my hdd to get 7.1 sound, my gnome won't load... it stops after login screen
[11:55] <andrew> I still get the whole "you are not the owner" thing
[11:55] <AmyRose> Comrade-Sergei: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[11:55] <z0man> ok I'm gonna ask a dumb question...Is there some way of identifying what Ubuntu is installed via a command ?
[11:55] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: did you save a copy of the config?
[11:55] <Comrade-Sergei> ty
[11:55] <crimsun> ghaaly: yes, but I'm quite busy ATM.
[11:55] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: in menuconfig?
[11:55] <ardchoille> z0man: lsb_release -a
[11:55] <jpsamara> is there a channel to discuss ubuntu development and feisty etc?
[11:55] <z0man> hmmmm
[11:55] <ardchoille> jpsamara: #ubuntu+1
[11:56] <kingcobra> i always feel rude when just asking a question without saying something before it sorry
[11:56] <LordLimecat> yes
[11:56] <DPic> Is the official release going to be on Thursday or just the release candidate?
[11:56] <LordLimecat> chowmeined: and when i redo make menuconfig, its showing my changes
[11:56] <sorcerer> chowmeined: dude i cant seem to find any for that
[11:56] <z0man> cool :)
[11:56] <lolman> z0man, lsb_release -a to see what release you have :)
[11:56] <LordLimecat> but i DEFINATELY turned off toshiba laptop support, and ipv6
[11:56] <ditoa> how do i check to see if my hard drive is using dma?
[11:56] <kingcobra> what is a good tool for handling rar archives
[11:56] <ardchoille> DPic: Ubuntu Feisty should be released on the 19th.
[11:56] <z0man> I'm using edgy
[11:57] <jpsamara> ardchoille: thx
[11:57] <z0man> thx all
[11:57] <Andy9215> http://www.ohs.osceola.k12.fl.us/teachers/marine2/Penguinreprod/image004.jpg
[11:57] <Andy9215> lol
[11:57] <jpsamara> ardchoille: but feisty RC is delayed due to bugs in the rc iso
[11:57] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: the config file it uses to build the kernel.. is always called .config... rename the one you made to .config and delete the old one: mv yours .config
[11:57] <ardchoille> !schedule
[11:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:57] <jpsamara> ardchoille: I don't think Feisty will be released 19th
[11:58] <ditoa> jpsamara: why not?
[11:58] <sorcerer> chowmeined: you there
[11:58] <chowmeined> sorcerer: if gtkam doesn't recognize it.. im not sure there is much you can do
[11:58] <andrew> i read the page about rootsudo, but its still not letting me change the permission of a folder
[11:58] <jpsamara> they still havent produced a RC.. and a release is always one week later than the RC ditoa
[11:58] <ghaaly> crimsun, you've no time to help ATM
[11:58] <andrew> after sudo -i
[11:58] <chowmeined> sorcerer: but if the camera has a memory card.. that you can take out and use in a reader.. then you could do that and it would most likely work
[11:58] <LordLimecat> chowmeind: i just wiped out .config (had backup in ~) and reloaded...seems to work now o.0
[11:59] <andrew> "you are not the root owner"
[11:59] <jessid> when is festy going yo be released? not the beta...
[11:59] <ardchoille> jpsamara: Hmm.. I'll have to look into that. I was looking forward to the 19th
[11:59] <sorcerer> chowmeined: that really sucks .. so could anyone please explain to e why linux is better than .. windows .. ] 
[11:59] <jpsamara> andrew . type whats between quotes but not quotes itself "sudo su -"
[11:59] <arrow> Does anyone know how to convert x264 format .mkv files into .avi or .mp4
[11:59] <chowmeined> sorcerer: there are too many reasons
[11:59] <chowmeined> sorcerer: and it isn't linux's fault either
[11:59] <jpsamara> andrew then type your password
[11:59] <jpsamara> andrw
[11:59] <arrow> !fiesty
[11:59] <sorcerer> coz these camras dont come up with drivers or support?
[11:59] <DPic> What was the problem with the Feisty beta?
[11:59] <chowmeined> sorcerer: microsoft didn't make the drivers for that camera.. sony did.. and sony decided they want to be lazy and not make one for linux too
[11:59] <sorcerer> fo linux
[11:59] <jpsamara> andrew: then chmod +rxw etc
[12:00] <ardchoille> arrow: The bot is down for now
[12:00] <sorcerer> and only for windows .. ?
[12:00] <chowmeined> sorcerer: but linux is extremely stable compared to windows
[12:00] <sorcerer> that really sucks mate .. shiiiit
[12:00] <arrow> ardchoille, oh ok thx
[12:00] <ajehuk> sorcerer - whats the camera?
[12:00] <Seveas> ardchoille, arrow: it's already on its way back
[12:00] <tjcarter> sorcerer: let's look at this realistically a moment.  Vendors write drivers for Windows, some even for Mac.  Few if any for Linux.  And yet, Linux supports more hardware than both of the others combined.  What model of camera are you using?