=== pauljw [n=paul@pool164.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@71-12-14-250.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.0.23] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak is now known as buttons === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === buttons is now known as buttonsmssing === buttonsmssing is now known as buttnsandbows === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === buttnsandbows is now known as gnomefreak === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.0.98] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@201.90.150.57] has joined #edubuntu [02:45] Evening all === a5benwillis_ [n=benwilli@71-12-14-250.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.0.98] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ is now known as jack_wyt === jodas [n=jodas@ip073248.fscwv.edu] has joined #edubuntu [03:09] How do you log in as Root? === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@142-165-225-187.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:10] Hello? === pauljw [n=paul@pool238.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:31] Is there anyone in here that can help me? [03:33] Hello [03:33] hey [03:33] HelloHelloHello [03:33] Hello [03:33] Hello [03:33] what is your issue? [03:33] HelloHello [03:33] HelloHello [03:33] Hello [03:33] Hello [03:33] Hello [03:33] Hello [03:33] v [03:33] vHello [03:33] HelloHello [03:33] vHelloHelloHello [03:33] Finally. [03:33] jodas, please don't spam [03:33] Ok here is my issue. [03:34] I'm trying to delete things in the root desktop folder. [03:34] why? [03:34] And I use Sudo, but it still will not allow for me to delete. [03:35] Because it is 38. MB of the same file that I thought was going to be downloaded to the desktop. [03:35] I do not need it anymore. [03:35] how did it end up on roots desktop? [03:35] I do not know. [03:35] It said that it was downloading to desktop and most downloads do. [03:35] But for some reason that one downloaded to root. [03:36] were you running a browser as root? [03:36] I have not a clue. [03:36] sounds like your were [03:36] you were, rather [03:36] root@edubuntu:/home/..... [03:36] I see that now. [03:37] anyway, to delete it, simply run `sudo rm FILENAME` [03:37] But it will not allow for me to delete these files. [03:37] while in the /root directory [03:37] have you activated teh root account? [03:37] Ok how do I do that Sudo bash? [03:37] And in the root directory what does that mean? [03:38] ok, how did you get a root terminal? [03:39] Says that I cannot remove the file because it does not exist when I'm looking right at it. [03:39] did you activate the root account or did you do sudo -s? [03:39] Hold on. [03:39] I used sudo bash. [03:39] umm, that is fairly unsafe [03:39] Just used that command. [03:40] In the root directory what does that mean? [03:40] either / or root's home, which is /root [03:40] but seriously, I would recommend doing sudo command, that way it is harder to forget you are using a root shell, becuase you are not [03:41] I have not a clue what you are talking about. [03:41] I'm sort of new as you have probably figured out. [03:41] right [03:41] and you are doing something extremely dangerous [03:41] Ok. [03:41] The files are printer driver downloads. [03:41] I admin Ubuntu stuff for a job and I don't do crazy stuff like that [03:42] They are in the desktop. [03:42] Your point? [03:42] regardless, what is the full path to teh files? [03:42] I know what you are trying to say, but I just need to delete these files? [03:42] and there is an easier way to install those printer drivers [03:42] /root/desktop [03:43] I beleive. [03:43] what is the filename? [03:43] and what command did you run to download them? [03:43] hplip-1.7.3.tar.gz [03:43] oh geez [03:44] It just downloaded there. [03:44] from what? a web browser? [03:44] That was the file. [03:44] Mozilla. [03:44] ugh [03:44] I had to download it to get my printer to work. [03:44] running a web browser as root SHOULD NEVER BE DONE [03:44] Ok. [03:44] Anyways what do I do. [03:45] open a terminal [03:45] 12.9 MBx3 because I did not think that it downloaded. [03:45] Ok. [03:45] under applications > accessories > terminal [03:45] Already ahead of you. [03:45] ok [03:45] type the following: [03:45] Ok. [03:46] sudo rm /root/Desktop/hp [03:46] and then hit the tab key [03:46] you should have the full file name [03:46] Says that it cannot remove it. [03:47] can you pastebin the full command and the error message? [03:47] !pastebin [03:47] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [03:47] Ok. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [03:47] It did not give me the whole file name. [03:47] So I had to put it in myself. [03:48] It worked. [03:48] ok [03:48] now, lets solve your first issue, the printer [03:48] what version of Ubuntu are you runningh? [03:48] Edubuntu. [03:48] 6.10 [03:48] ok [03:49] what kind of printer do you have? [03:49] HP deskjet F340 [03:49] Printer, scanner, and copier. [03:50] right [03:50] ok, the version of hplip already installed on your system shoudl support the printer [03:51] go to system > administration > printing [03:51] It was never installed. [03:51] It downloaded to root. [03:51] And I could not delete it. [03:51] no, there is a version of hplip already installed [03:51] How do I sign out of root? [03:52] Hold. [03:52] the root bash window? type logout [03:52] There are two. [03:52] there are two windows, one shoudl be logged in as you [03:52] Hold on. [03:52] Ok. [03:53] What do you want to know about the printer. [03:53] Those files were zipped. [03:53] you don't need the download [03:53] hplip is already installed [03:54] all you need to do is to install the printer [03:54] ie: via system > admin > printing [03:54] It will not scan. [03:55] which driver are you using? [03:55] Deskjet_F300. [03:57] nah, on the printing control panel, what driver does it say you are using? [03:57] hpijs [03:57] is there an option for hplip? [03:58] No that is what I was trying to tell you. [04:00] I don't even see a model called f300 [04:01] ok, there is it [04:01] Yeah. [04:02] There is not an install for the other driver. [04:02] can you check to make certain hplip is installed? [04:02] That is what I just did. [04:02] It said that there was not another option. [04:03] hmm [04:04] have you tried using xsane? === greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:06] Weird it found it??? [04:06] I did not see it before. [04:06] right [04:06] Hold on. [04:07] It was not working before though. [04:07] Could that have been because I was in root? [04:09] possibly [04:09] run as little as possible as root [04:09] Ok. [04:09] Thanks for responding. [04:09] It helped me out. [04:09] no worries [04:10] What are those commands again for the future? [04:10] to run something with sudo, simply prepend it before teh command [04:10] Is there like a tutorial on how to use all the commands in ubuntu somewhere? [04:11] a lot of stuff can be done graphically [04:11] look under system > help [04:11] I know. [04:11] Ok. [04:11] Thank you. [04:11] Ja ne. [04:11] :) [04:12] admittedly, it is incredibly easy to break things if you just run everything as root :) [04:14] pretty much [04:14] if someone can figure out my sound problem I will pay $15 (preferably with paypal) [04:14] what is your sound issue? [04:15] I can hear sound from my mic and line in through my speakers, but cannot record it [04:15] then your recording program is pulling off the wrong device [04:16] I have tried audacity and sox, sound recorder doesn't seem to work either [04:16] best way to fix it is to experiment with the sound control panel [04:17] I have used alsamixer and made sure the mic and line in were not muted (and obviously I can hear it through my speakers) [04:18] alsa mixer also seems to repeat some of my ports, i.e it has line-in and line-in 1, it has mic, and mic1, etc. [04:19] Meshezabeel: pastebin your ``amixer'' output, then tell us the url. [04:23] http://pastebin.ca/442212 [04:24] your secondary mic looks to be toggled for capture, not primary [04:25] neither mic has mic boost toggled on [04:27] yeah, that secondary mic is not my mic, it is the first mic that is my mic [04:27] mainly I am trying to record from line-in than mic anyhow [04:28] amixer set 'Line' cap === ajmitch wonders if crimsun highlights on alsa [04:28] yes, I do. [04:28] worrying :) [04:29] I disabled it for all the high traffic channels [04:29] mic boost works from speakers, but still does not record [04:29] crimsun: you are crazy :) [04:29] Meshezabeel: I thought you wanted to capture Line-in? [04:30] yes crimsun [04:30] well, it takes a bit of insanity to get all this stuff done ;-) [04:30] just trying mic with mic boost on as you mentioned the mic [04:31] but neither mic or line in work for recording, so is probably the same issue for both [04:31] what have you tried? [04:32] /if/ your model is correct, then you have two sets of mics and line-ins [04:32] Laser_away: not quite away today? [04:32] lurking :-) [04:32] figures :) [04:32] crimsun, I only have one line in and mic in as well as midi and digital in [04:33] Meshezabeel: so now we need to establish if your model is detected correctly. [04:33] I also have onboard sound, but that should be a different model I would think [04:33] Meshezabeel: please pastebin ``lspci -vvn'' and the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec* [04:37] http://pastebin.ca/442225 [04:40] Alsamixer lists: [04:40] Card: Sound Fusion CS46xx [04:40] Chip: Cirrus Logic CS4294 rev 5,Cirrus Logic CS4294 rev 5,Cirrus Logic CS429 [04:41] Meshezabeel: this is feisty, correct? [04:41] no, it is edgy [04:41] Meshezabeel: hmm. cat /proc/asound/modules [04:41] 0 snd_cs46xx [04:42] grep -i dsnoop /usr/share/alsa/cards/CS46xx.conf [04:43] # default with plughw/dsnoop [04:43] strings [ "dsnoop:" $CARD ] [04:43] right, that was fixed in feisty's 1.0.13-1ubuntu2 [04:43] let me isolate the fix for you. [04:43] oh, this was a bug in edgy? [04:44] in edgy's alsa-lib configuration for cs46xx, yes. [04:44] ok, cool [04:45] I should also add that this is an external sound box called Hercules Game Theater XP that uses cs46xx chipset I believe, not sure if that makes a difference [04:45] Meshezabeel: change the dsnoop in that line that you see above to hw [04:47] crimsun: not sure what you mean, you mean change it to: strings ["hw:" $CARD ] [04:47] correct. [04:48] ok, done [04:49] do I need to reset something? [04:49] nope, just restart the alsa apps in which you're attempting to record something [04:50] retried audacity still does not work [04:51] audacity has playback and record set to /dev/dsp - this is the only option, is this correct? [04:51] err, that's oss emulation. [04:51] does arecord /dev/null work? [04:51] you should at least be able to hear yourself [04:52] after confirming that much, replace "/dev/null" with another filename [04:52] yes, I can hear myself even when not running arecord etc. [04:54] arecord just records a sound file with no sound [04:54] i.e. white noise [04:55] ok, then we're back to the "are you using the correct mic toggle" issue [04:55] well I can hear it in my speaker [04:56] when I use it, but when I record from it or line in, I get white noise [04:56] you can hear "it" because both mic inputs are not zeroed. [04:57] mic and line-in are the correct ones, mic1 and line-in1 are not the correct ones, not sure what those are [04:57] any way to tell arecord to use mic or line-in [04:59] yes, I gave you an example line above [04:59] I presumed you had applied it to line-in already [04:59] amixer set 'Line',0 cap [04:59] or [04:59] amixer set 'Mic',0 cap [05:00] you can set this via the mixer applet in gnome, too === oldwolf [n=oldwolf@213.191.95.219.jb01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #edubuntu [05:03] I have Line set to cap, but still gives white noise on record [05:03] are you using audacity or arecord? [05:04] both [05:04] arecord just gives white noise too [05:04] can you test with a feisty desktop cd? [05:04] I don't have an edgy install with which to troubleshoot [05:05] oh wait [05:05] duh [05:05] k :) === oldwolf [n=oldwolf@213.191.95.219.jb01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #edubuntu [05:05] ok, for cs46xx you need to set Capture, Line/Mic, and ADC === oldwolf [n=oldwolf@213.191.95.219.jb01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #edubuntu [05:06] sorry, it has been quite some time since I did troubleshooting on cs46xx [05:06] np :) [05:06] so - amixer set 'ADC' cap [05:07] when I run arecord, I press ctrl+c to stop? [05:07] yes [05:09] hey, I think it's working, it sounds a bit garbled, but I got sound!!! [05:10] right, set the sample rate and all that [05:12] hmm, when I set it in audacity to 44100 it records to 8000 only [05:12] audacity bug [05:13] ok, trying arecord -f cd [05:14] awesome [05:14] thanks for your help, it works!!! [05:14] np. [05:14] do you have paypal account to send money to? [05:15] nope. [05:15] I'd rather you assist someone else new to {Ed,}ubuntu [05:15] ok, I could do that too! thanks again :) [05:16] this has been frustrating me for a couple of days [05:18] so when is feisty officially released? the 19th? [05:18] the week of the 19th, pending testing [05:18] ok [05:19] ubuntu and edubuntu released on the same day? or edubuntu a bit later? [05:19] same day. 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[02:50] is it still supported upstream ? i thought they dropped it [02:51] judging by the amount of people who still use it, I hope it's still supported upstream :) [02:54] maybe just fight with apache2 then.. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool3.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:56] Heya [02:56] ho [02:56] Hello cliebow [02:57] thought you deserved at least a "ho" 8~) [02:57] heh :) === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@125-152-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=chatzill@66.244.123.100] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@201.21.216.176] has joined #edubuntu [04:20] Morning all === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-154-3.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-240-28-177.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav is now known as ltspbrbot === ltspbrbot is now known as sbalneav === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === flappers [n=flappers@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=blah@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@ubuntu/member/kjcole] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === encompass [n=lappy@dsl-hvkgw1-fe6ffa00-119.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@ubuntu/member/kjcole] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.248.148.105] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_thin [n=ogra2@p548AD8C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_thin [n=ogra2@p548AD8C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #edubuntu [] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@ubuntu/member/kjcole] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === banane [n=banane@xdslcn094.osnanet.de] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:17] Anyone here savvy about the differences between single and dual-processor systems? [09:18] SimonAnibal: in what sense? [09:19] Well, I'm looking at a couple of laptops; one has an AMD Turion 64 @ 2.0 GHz, one has an AMD Turion 64 X2 @ 1.60 GHz, the dual-core one is $80 more expensive and they are otherwise identical...in your opinion is it worth it to get the dual-core? [09:19] Is the X2 @ 1.60 Ghz sort-of-kind-of the equivalent of a single core @ 3.20? [09:20] is it two cores, each at 1.6, or both for 1.6? [09:20] That's kind of my question, I don't know. It's an AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-50 [09:20] I'm ASSUMING that at $80 more than the normal 64 bit that each is running 1.6 [09:20] but I don' [09:21] t know [09:22] If not, then what's the point? [09:23] look deeper into the stats [09:23] for a laptop, I would honestly be looking more into the power usage of each processor [09:24] Hmmmm...so do more homework is the bottom line here? [09:25] Burgundavia: is there any single person that runs Planet Ubuntu? [09:26] LaserJock: not anymore, why? [09:26] SimonAnibal: basically, yes [09:26] SimonAnibal: you also really want all intel stuff [09:26] Burgundavia: I created a Behind MOTU blog and I'll like to put it on planet [09:26] ah [09:26] hmm, that isn't usually what goes on planet [09:26] Burgundavia: but I know there was some dicsussion about non-personal blogs being added, ala Package of the Day [09:27] yep [09:27] Burgundavia: Thanks, and the only stuff that's in the price range I'm investigating right now is AMD [09:27] I would like to see them removed [09:27] SimonAnibal: there are lots of great Intel-only laptops [09:27] Burgundavia: Less than $800? I'd love to find them [09:38] Burgundavia: Well, thanks man, I appreciate you taking the time to help. I'm outta here [09:38] no worries === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === cbx333 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:47] Hi all, can someone please get me a feisty ldm login screenshot [09:47] it's needed for hte edubutnu chapter of the official ubuntu book === arualavi [n=Iva@117.Red-83-33-7.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:09] is there a lighter windows manager that can be dropped into edubuntu to replace metacity? [10:09] without terribly changing the appearance? [10:09] well, you can [10:10] although I'm not sure how much you would gain [10:10] openbox is one I know [10:11] i have an incredibly slow and old system- i'd like to run it on [10:11] you might do better with xfce4 then [10:11] replacing all of Gnome [10:12] hmmm... will that keep all teh edubuntu packages in place? [10:12] yeah [10:12] thanks [10:12] well, basically what you can do if you've already got and Edubuntu machine [10:13] is install xubuntu-desktop [10:14] i do wantto retain someof theappearanceoftheedubutu look...sillyme [10:14] ah sorry about the stuck space bar [10:15] hey LaserJock === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === mattva01 [n=matthew@c-69-143-121-184.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:58] ARGH [10:58] why cant i change the topic anymore !!!! [10:58] highvoltage, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 [10:58] please fix that !!! [10:58] ogra, calm down dude [10:58] time for sleep === cbx33 sprinkles pixie dust on ogra [10:59] shh shh now...sandmans a comin' [10:59] sworry i'm on the edgy i urgently need sleep and just want that done nobody tested the last isos [10:59] *egde [10:59] anyway, night all [10:59] i download one yesterday [10:59] and installed it [11:00] and as i said that network manager bug was still there [11:00] i logged into the server [11:00] please record your results then [11:00] and clients wouldn't boot [11:00] are you sure that it was the NM bug its technicaly not possible anymore that NM topuches yur ltsp interface [11:00] well [11:00] it says [11:01] nfs: requires a path [11:01] and they just won;t boot [11:01] i know it's vmware [11:01] but it should work [11:01] thats not related to NM [11:01] i'm pretty sure [11:01] ok [11:02] but anyway, no test results apart frommine ... [11:02] ok [11:02] and nobody logged bugs ... [11:02] I'll try to test again [11:02] I'm trying [11:02] anyway i need sleep now .. night all [11:02] but I'm snowed under [11:02] nn ogra [11:02] it would be nice if we could free the topic again [11:03] so people can edit it [11:03] I've never had IRC rights [11:03] so I can't do anything [11:03] you nver needed any [11:03] I'll ask highvoltage if i see [11:03] thats my point [11:03] i'm online 16h a day so i'll catch if someone does any bad stuff usualy [11:04] ok [11:04] sorry [11:04] what for [11:04] ? [11:04] agravating the sleepy bear ;) [11:04] heh === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === frandavid100 [n=david@84.123.97.4.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #edubuntu [11:23] hey guys [11:23] I gave this idea in the gutsy forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410351 [11:24] It's about ubuntu for internet cafes, and it's closely related to thin-client-manager [11:25] so, you being the experts in TCM I would appreciate it if you could take a look at it and contribute with ideas, or just say that it can or it cannot be done [11:25] frandavid100: merely needs developers [11:25] that's why [11:25] if you can say what is needed, maybe it will get some attention [11:26] maybe someone will like the idea and code a plugin for tcm [11:26] you need a couple of things [11:26]