[02:45] <sbalneav> Evening all
[03:09] <jodas> How do you log in as Root?
[03:10] <jodas> Hello?
[03:31] <jodas> Is there anyone in here that can help me?
[03:33] <jodas> Hello
[03:33] <Burgundavia> hey
[03:33] <jodas> HelloHelloHello
[03:33] <jodas> Hello
[03:33] <jodas> Hello
[03:33] <Burgundavia> what is your issue?
[03:33] <jodas> HelloHello
[03:33] <jodas> HelloHello
[03:33] <jodas> Hello
[03:33] <jodas> Hello
[03:33] <jodas> Hello
[03:33] <jodas> Hello
[03:33] <jodas> v
[03:33] <jodas> vHello
[03:33] <jodas> HelloHello
[03:33] <jodas> vHelloHelloHello
[03:33] <jodas> Finally.
[03:33] <Burgundavia> jodas, please don't spam
[03:33] <jodas> Ok here is my issue.
[03:34] <jodas> I'm trying to delete things in the root desktop folder.
[03:34] <Burgundavia> why?
[03:34] <jodas> And I use Sudo, but it still will not allow for me to delete.
[03:35] <jodas> Because it is 38. MB of the same file that I thought was going to be downloaded to the desktop.
[03:35] <jodas> I do not need it anymore.
[03:35] <Burgundavia> how did it end up on roots desktop?
[03:35] <jodas> I do not know.
[03:35] <jodas> It said that it was downloading to desktop and most downloads do.
[03:35] <jodas> But for some reason that one downloaded to root.
[03:36] <Burgundavia> were you running a browser as root?
[03:36] <jodas> I have not a clue.
[03:36] <Burgundavia> sounds like your were
[03:36] <Burgundavia> you were, rather
[03:36] <jodas> root@edubuntu:/home/.....
[03:36] <jodas> I see that now.
[03:37] <Burgundavia> anyway, to delete it, simply run `sudo rm FILENAME`
[03:37] <jodas> But it will not allow for me to delete these files.
[03:37] <Burgundavia> while in the /root directory
[03:37] <Burgundavia> have you activated teh root account?
[03:37] <jodas> Ok how do I do that Sudo bash?
[03:37] <jodas> And in the root directory what does that mean?
[03:38] <Burgundavia> ok, how did you get a root terminal?
[03:39] <jodas> Says that I cannot remove the file because it does not exist when I'm looking right at it.
[03:39] <Burgundavia> did you activate the root account or did you do sudo -s?
[03:39] <jodas> Hold on.
[03:39] <jodas> I used sudo bash.
[03:39] <Burgundavia> umm, that is fairly unsafe
[03:39] <jodas> Just used that command.
[03:40] <jodas> In the root directory what does that mean?
[03:40] <Burgundavia> either / or root's home, which is /root
[03:40] <Burgundavia> but seriously, I would recommend doing sudo command, that way it is harder to forget you are using a root shell, becuase you are not
[03:41] <jodas> I have not a clue what you are talking about.
[03:41] <jodas> I'm sort of new as you have probably figured out.
[03:41] <Burgundavia> right
[03:41] <Burgundavia> and you are doing something extremely dangerous
[03:41] <jodas> Ok.
[03:41] <jodas> The files are printer driver downloads.
[03:41] <Burgundavia> I admin Ubuntu stuff for a job and I don't do crazy stuff like that
[03:42] <jodas> They are in the desktop.
[03:42] <jodas> Your point?
[03:42] <Burgundavia> regardless, what is the full path to teh files?
[03:42] <jodas> I know what you are trying to say, but I just need to delete these files?
[03:42] <Burgundavia> and there is an easier way to install those printer drivers
[03:42] <jodas> /root/desktop
[03:43] <jodas> I beleive.
[03:43] <Burgundavia> what is the filename?
[03:43] <Burgundavia> and what command did you run to download them?
[03:43] <jodas> hplip-1.7.3.tar.gz
[03:43] <Burgundavia> oh geez
[03:44] <jodas> It just downloaded there.
[03:44] <Burgundavia> from what? a web browser?
[03:44] <jodas> That was the file.
[03:44] <jodas> Mozilla.
[03:44] <Burgundavia> ugh
[03:44] <jodas> I had to download it to get my printer to work.
[03:44] <Burgundavia> running a web browser as root SHOULD NEVER BE DONE
[03:44] <jodas> Ok.
[03:44] <jodas> Anyways what do I do.
[03:45] <Burgundavia> open a terminal
[03:45] <jodas> 12.9 MBx3 because I did not think that it downloaded.
[03:45] <jodas> Ok.
[03:45] <Burgundavia> under applications > accessories > terminal
[03:45] <jodas> Already ahead of you.
[03:45] <Burgundavia> ok
[03:45] <Burgundavia> type the following:
[03:45] <jodas> Ok.
[03:46] <Burgundavia> sudo rm /root/Desktop/hp
[03:46] <Burgundavia> and then hit the tab key
[03:46] <Burgundavia> you should have the full file name
[03:46] <jodas> Says that it cannot remove it.
[03:47] <Burgundavia> can you pastebin the full command and the error message?
[03:47] <Burgundavia> !pastebin
[03:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:47] <jodas> Ok.
[03:47] <jodas> It did not give me the whole file name.
[03:47] <jodas> So I had to put it in myself.
[03:48] <jodas> It worked.
[03:48] <Burgundavia> ok
[03:48] <Burgundavia> now, lets solve your first issue, the printer
[03:48] <Burgundavia> what version of Ubuntu are you runningh?
[03:48] <jodas> Edubuntu.
[03:48] <jodas> 6.10
[03:48] <Burgundavia> ok
[03:49] <Burgundavia> what kind of printer do you have?
[03:49] <jodas> HP deskjet F340
[03:49] <jodas> Printer, scanner, and copier.
[03:50] <Burgundavia> right
[03:50] <Burgundavia> ok, the version of hplip already installed on your system shoudl support the printer
[03:51] <Burgundavia> go to system > administration > printing
[03:51] <jodas> It was never installed.
[03:51] <jodas> It downloaded to root.
[03:51] <jodas> And I could not delete it.
[03:51] <Burgundavia> no, there is a version of hplip already installed
[03:51] <jodas> How do I sign out of root?
[03:52] <jodas> Hold.
[03:52] <Burgundavia> the root bash window? type logout
[03:52] <jodas> There are two.
[03:52] <Burgundavia> there are two windows, one shoudl be logged in as you
[03:52] <jodas> Hold on.
[03:52] <jodas> Ok.
[03:53] <jodas> What do you want to know about the printer.
[03:53] <jodas> Those files were zipped.
[03:53] <Burgundavia> you don't need the download
[03:53] <Burgundavia> hplip is already installed
[03:54] <Burgundavia> all you need to do is to install the printer
[03:54] <Burgundavia> ie: via system > admin > printing
[03:54] <jodas> It will not scan.
[03:55] <Burgundavia> which driver are you using?
[03:55] <jodas> Deskjet_F300.
[03:57] <Burgundavia> nah, on the printing control panel, what driver does it say you are using?
[03:57] <jodas> hpijs
[03:57] <Burgundavia> is there an option for hplip?
[03:58] <jodas> No that is what I was trying to tell you.
[04:00] <Burgundavia> I don't even see a model called f300
[04:01] <Burgundavia> ok, there is it
[04:01] <jodas> Yeah.
[04:02] <jodas> There is not an install for the other driver.
[04:02] <Burgundavia> can you check to make certain hplip is installed?
[04:02] <jodas> That is what I just did.
[04:02] <jodas> It said that there was not another option.
[04:03] <Burgundavia> hmm
[04:04] <Burgundavia> have you tried using xsane?
[04:06] <jodas> Weird it found it???
[04:06] <jodas> I did not see it before.
[04:06] <Burgundavia> right
[04:06] <jodas> Hold on.
[04:07] <jodas> It was not working before though.
[04:07] <jodas> Could that have been because I was in root?
[04:09] <Burgundavia> possibly
[04:09] <Burgundavia> run as little as possible as root
[04:09] <jodas> Ok.
[04:09] <jodas> Thanks for responding.
[04:09] <jodas> It helped me out.
[04:09] <Burgundavia> no worries
[04:10] <jodas> What are those commands again for the future?
[04:10] <Burgundavia> to run something with sudo, simply prepend it before teh command
[04:10] <jodas> Is there like a tutorial on how to use all the commands in ubuntu somewhere?
[04:11] <Burgundavia> a lot of stuff can be done graphically
[04:11] <Burgundavia> look under system > help
[04:11] <jodas> I know.
[04:11] <jodas> Ok.
[04:11] <jodas> Thank you.
[04:11] <jodas> Ja ne.
[04:11] <jodas> :)
[04:12] <ajmitch> admittedly, it is incredibly easy to break things if you just run everything as root :)
[04:14] <Burgundavia> pretty much
[04:14] <Meshezabeel> if someone can figure out my sound problem I will pay $15 (preferably with paypal)
[04:14] <Burgundavia> what is your sound issue?
[04:15] <Meshezabeel> I can hear sound from my mic and line in through my speakers, but cannot record it
[04:15] <Burgundavia> then your recording program is pulling off the wrong device
[04:16] <Meshezabeel> I have tried audacity and sox, sound recorder doesn't seem to work either
[04:16] <Burgundavia> best way to fix it is to experiment with the sound control panel
[04:17] <Meshezabeel> I have used alsamixer and made sure the mic and line in were not muted (and obviously I can hear it through my speakers)
[04:18] <Meshezabeel> alsa mixer also seems to repeat some of my ports, i.e it has line-in and line-in 1, it has mic, and mic1, etc.
[04:19] <crimsun> Meshezabeel: pastebin your ``amixer'' output, then tell us the url.
[04:23] <Meshezabeel> http://pastebin.ca/442212
[04:24] <crimsun> your secondary mic looks to be toggled for capture, not primary
[04:25] <crimsun> neither mic has mic boost toggled on
[04:27] <Meshezabeel> yeah, that secondary mic is not my mic, it is the first mic that is my mic
[04:27] <Meshezabeel> mainly I am trying to record from line-in than mic anyhow
[04:28] <crimsun> amixer set 'Line' cap
[04:28] <crimsun> yes, I do.
[04:28] <ajmitch> worrying :)
[04:29] <crimsun> I disabled it for all the high traffic channels
[04:29] <Meshezabeel> mic boost works from speakers, but still does not record
[04:29] <Burgundavia> crimsun: you are crazy :)
[04:29] <crimsun> Meshezabeel: I thought you wanted to capture Line-in?
[04:30] <Meshezabeel> yes crimsun
[04:30] <Laser_away> well, it takes a bit of insanity to get all this stuff done ;-)
[04:30] <Meshezabeel> just trying mic with mic boost on as you mentioned the mic
[04:31] <Meshezabeel> but neither mic or line in work for recording, so is probably the same issue for both
[04:31] <crimsun> what have you tried?
[04:32] <crimsun> /if/ your model is correct, then you have two sets of mics and line-ins
[04:32] <ajmitch> Laser_away: not quite away today?
[04:32] <Laser_away> lurking :-)
[04:32] <ajmitch> figures :)
[04:32] <Meshezabeel> crimsun, I only have one line in and mic in as well as midi and digital in
[04:33] <crimsun> Meshezabeel: so now we need to establish if your model is detected correctly.
[04:33] <Meshezabeel> I also have onboard sound, but that should be a different model I would think
[04:33] <crimsun> Meshezabeel: please pastebin ``lspci -vvn'' and the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec*
[04:37] <Meshezabeel> http://pastebin.ca/442225
[04:40] <Meshezabeel> Alsamixer lists:
[04:40] <Meshezabeel> Card: Sound Fusion CS46xx                                                    
[04:40] <Meshezabeel> Chip: Cirrus Logic CS4294 rev 5,Cirrus Logic CS4294 rev 5,Cirrus Logic CS429
[04:41] <crimsun> Meshezabeel: this is feisty, correct?
[04:41] <Meshezabeel> no, it is edgy
[04:41] <crimsun> Meshezabeel: hmm. cat /proc/asound/modules
[04:41] <Meshezabeel>  0 snd_cs46xx
[04:42] <crimsun> grep -i dsnoop /usr/share/alsa/cards/CS46xx.conf
[04:43] <Meshezabeel> # default with plughw/dsnoop
[04:43] <Meshezabeel>                         strings [ "dsnoop:" $CARD ] 
[04:43] <crimsun> right, that was fixed in feisty's 1.0.13-1ubuntu2
[04:43] <crimsun> let me isolate the fix for you.
[04:43] <Meshezabeel> oh, this was a bug in edgy?
[04:44] <crimsun> in edgy's alsa-lib configuration for cs46xx, yes.
[04:44] <Meshezabeel> ok, cool
[04:45] <Meshezabeel> I should also add that this is an external sound box called Hercules Game Theater XP that uses cs46xx chipset I believe, not sure if that makes a difference
[04:45] <crimsun> Meshezabeel: change the dsnoop in that line that you see above to hw
[04:47] <Meshezabeel> crimsun: not sure what you mean, you mean change it to:    strings ["hw:" $CARD ] 
[04:47] <crimsun> correct.
[04:48] <Meshezabeel> ok, done
[04:49] <Meshezabeel> do I need to reset something?
[04:49] <crimsun> nope, just restart the alsa apps in which you're attempting to record something
[04:50] <Meshezabeel> retried audacity still does not work
[04:51] <Meshezabeel> audacity has playback and record set to /dev/dsp - this is the only option, is this correct?
[04:51] <crimsun> err, that's oss emulation.
[04:51] <crimsun> does arecord /dev/null  work?
[04:51] <crimsun> you should at least be able to hear yourself
[04:52] <crimsun> after confirming that much, replace "/dev/null" with another filename
[04:52] <Meshezabeel> yes, I can hear myself even when not running arecord etc.
[04:54] <Meshezabeel> arecord just records a sound file with no sound
[04:54] <Meshezabeel> i.e. white noise
[04:55] <crimsun> ok, then we're back to the "are you using the correct mic toggle" issue
[04:55] <Meshezabeel> well I can hear it in my speaker
[04:56] <Meshezabeel> when I use it, but when I record from it or line in, I get white noise
[04:56] <crimsun> you can hear "it" because both mic inputs are not zeroed.
[04:57] <Meshezabeel> mic and line-in are the correct ones, mic1 and line-in1 are not the correct ones, not sure what those are
[04:57] <Meshezabeel> any way to tell arecord to use mic or line-in
[04:59] <crimsun> yes, I gave you an example line above
[04:59] <crimsun> I presumed you had applied it to line-in already
[04:59] <crimsun> amixer set 'Line',0 cap
[04:59] <crimsun> or
[04:59] <crimsun> amixer set 'Mic',0 cap
[05:00] <crimsun> you can set this via the mixer applet in gnome, too
[05:03] <Meshezabeel> I have Line set to cap, but still gives white noise on record
[05:03] <crimsun> are you using audacity or arecord?
[05:04] <Meshezabeel> both
[05:04] <Meshezabeel> arecord just gives white noise too
[05:04] <crimsun> can you test with a feisty desktop cd?
[05:04] <crimsun> I don't have an edgy install with which to troubleshoot
[05:05] <crimsun> oh wait
[05:05] <crimsun> duh
[05:05] <Meshezabeel> k :)
[05:05] <crimsun> ok, for cs46xx you need to set Capture, Line/Mic, and ADC
[05:06] <crimsun> sorry, it has been quite some time since I did troubleshooting on cs46xx
[05:06] <Meshezabeel> np :)
[05:06] <crimsun> so - amixer set 'ADC' cap
[05:07] <Meshezabeel> when I run arecord, I press ctrl+c to stop?
[05:07] <crimsun> yes
[05:09] <Meshezabeel> hey, I think it's working, it sounds a bit garbled, but I got sound!!!
[05:10] <crimsun> right, set the sample rate and all that
[05:12] <Meshezabeel> hmm, when I set it in audacity to 44100 it records to 8000 only
[05:12] <crimsun> audacity bug
[05:13] <Meshezabeel> ok, trying arecord -f cd
[05:14] <Meshezabeel> awesome
[05:14] <Meshezabeel> thanks for your help, it works!!!
[05:14] <crimsun> np.
[05:14] <Meshezabeel> do you have paypal account to send money to?
[05:15] <crimsun> nope.
[05:15] <crimsun> I'd rather you assist someone else new to {Ed,}ubuntu
[05:15] <Meshezabeel> ok, I could do that too! thanks again :)
[05:16] <Meshezabeel> this has been frustrating me for a couple of days
[05:18] <Meshezabeel> so when is feisty officially released? the 19th?
[05:18] <crimsun> the week of the 19th, pending testing
[05:18] <Meshezabeel> ok
[05:19] <Meshezabeel> ubuntu and edubuntu released on the same day? or edubuntu a bit later?
[05:19] <crimsun> same day.
[05:24] <Meshezabeel> look forward to it, I hear it is even faster than edgy, but haven't tried it yet
[11:33] <juliux> hi willvdl
[11:34] <willvdl> hey
[11:42] <highvoltage> hey juliux and willvdl
[11:47] <RichEd> hey juliux, willvdl, highvoltage ...
[11:47] <highvoltage> hey RichEd
[11:50] <ajmitch> hi
[02:48] <cliebow> any hints how to get libapache-mod-php5..or must i migrate to apache2
[02:50] <ogra> is it still supported upstream ? i thought they dropped it
[02:51] <highvoltage> judging by the amount of people who still use it, I hope it's still supported upstream :)
[02:54] <cliebow> maybe just fight with apache2 then..
[02:56] <bddebian> Heya
[02:56] <cliebow> ho
[02:56] <bddebian> Hello cliebow
[02:57] <cliebow> thought you deserved at least a "ho" 8~)
[02:57] <bddebian> heh :)
[04:20] <sbalneav> Morning all
[09:17] <SimonAnibal> Anyone here savvy about the differences between single and dual-processor systems?
[09:18] <Burgundavia> SimonAnibal: in what sense?
[09:19] <SimonAnibal> Well, I'm looking at a couple of laptops; one has an AMD Turion 64 @ 2.0 GHz, one has an AMD Turion 64 X2 @ 1.60 GHz, the dual-core one is $80 more expensive and they are otherwise identical...in your opinion is it worth it to get the dual-core?
[09:19] <SimonAnibal> Is the X2 @ 1.60 Ghz sort-of-kind-of the equivalent of a single core @ 3.20?
[09:20] <Burgundavia> is it two cores, each at 1.6, or both for 1.6?
[09:20] <SimonAnibal> That's kind of my question, I don't know. It's an AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-50
[09:20] <SimonAnibal> I'm ASSUMING that at $80 more than the normal 64 bit that each is running 1.6
[09:20] <SimonAnibal> but I don'
[09:21] <SimonAnibal> t know
[09:22] <SimonAnibal> If not, then what's the point?
[09:23] <Burgundavia> look deeper into the stats
[09:23] <Burgundavia> for a laptop, I would honestly be looking more into the power usage of each processor
[09:24] <SimonAnibal> Hmmmm...so do more homework is the bottom line here?
[09:25] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: is there any single person that runs Planet Ubuntu?
[09:26] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: not anymore, why?
[09:26] <Burgundavia> SimonAnibal: basically, yes
[09:26] <Burgundavia> SimonAnibal: you also really want all intel stuff
[09:26] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: I created a Behind MOTU blog and I'll like to put it on planet
[09:26] <Burgundavia> ah
[09:26] <Burgundavia> hmm, that isn't usually what goes on planet
[09:26] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: but I know there was some dicsussion about non-personal blogs being added, ala Package of the Day
[09:27] <Burgundavia> yep
[09:27] <SimonAnibal> Burgundavia: Thanks, and the only stuff that's in the price range I'm investigating right now is AMD
[09:27] <Burgundavia> I would like to see them removed
[09:27] <Burgundavia> SimonAnibal: there are lots of great Intel-only laptops
[09:27] <SimonAnibal> Burgundavia: Less than $800? I'd love to find them
[09:38] <SimonAnibal> Burgundavia: Well, thanks man, I appreciate you taking the time to help. I'm outta here
[09:38] <Burgundavia> no worries
[09:47] <cbx333> Hi all, can someone please get me a feisty ldm login screenshot
[09:47] <cbx333> it's needed for hte edubutnu chapter of the official ubuntu book
[10:09] <n8k99> is there a lighter windows manager that can be dropped into edubuntu to replace metacity?
[10:09] <n8k99> without terribly changing the appearance?
[10:09] <LaserJock> well, you can
[10:10] <LaserJock> although I'm not sure how much you would gain
[10:10] <LaserJock> openbox is one I know
[10:11] <n8k99> i have an incredibly slow and old system- i'd like to run it on
[10:11] <LaserJock> you might do better with xfce4 then
[10:11] <LaserJock> replacing all of Gnome
[10:12] <n8k99> hmmm... will that keep all teh edubuntu packages in place?
[10:12] <LaserJock> yeah
[10:12] <n8k99> thanks
[10:12] <LaserJock> well, basically what you can do if you've already got and Edubuntu machine
[10:13] <LaserJock> is install xubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <n8k99> i do wantto retain someof theappearanceoftheedubutu look...sillyme
[10:14] <n8k99> ah sorry about the stuck space bar
[10:15] <cbx33> hey LaserJock
[10:58] <ogra> ARGH
[10:58] <ogra> why cant i change the topic anymore !!!!
[10:58] <ogra> highvoltage, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[10:58] <ogra> please fix that !!!
[10:58] <cbx33> ogra, calm down dude
[10:58] <cbx33> time for sleep
[10:59] <cbx33> shh shh now...sandmans a comin'
[10:59] <ogra> sworry i'm on the edgy i urgently need sleep and just want that done nobody tested the last isos
[10:59] <ogra> *egde
[10:59] <ogra> anyway, night all
[10:59] <cbx33> i download one yesterday
[10:59] <cbx33> and installed it
[11:00] <cbx33> and as i said that network manager bug was still there
[11:00] <cbx33> i logged into the server
[11:00] <ogra> please record your results then
[11:00] <cbx33> and clients wouldn't boot
[11:00] <ogra> are you sure that it was the NM bug  its technicaly not possible anymore that NM topuches yur ltsp interface
[11:00] <cbx33> well
[11:00] <cbx33> it says
[11:01] <cbx33> nfs: requires a path
[11:01] <cbx33> and they just won;t boot
[11:01] <cbx33> i know it's vmware
[11:01] <cbx33> but it should work
[11:01] <ogra> thats not related to NM
[11:01] <ogra> i'm pretty sure
[11:01] <cbx33> ok
[11:02] <ogra> but anyway, no test results apart frommine ...
[11:02] <cbx33> ok
[11:02] <ogra> and nobody logged bugs ...
[11:02] <cbx33> I'll try to test again
[11:02] <cbx33> I'm trying
[11:02] <ogra> anyway i need sleep now .. night all
[11:02] <cbx33> but I'm snowed under
[11:02] <cbx33> nn ogra
[11:02] <ogra> it would be nice if we could free the topic again
[11:03] <ogra> so people can edit it
[11:03] <cbx33> I've never had IRC rights
[11:03] <cbx33> so I can't do anything
[11:03] <ogra> you nver needed any
[11:03] <cbx33> I'll ask highvoltage if i see
[11:03] <ogra> thats my point
[11:03] <ogra> i'm online 16h a day so i'll catch if someone does any bad stuff usualy
[11:04] <cbx33> ok
[11:04] <cbx33> sorry
[11:04] <ogra> what for
[11:04] <ogra> ?
[11:04] <cbx33> agravating the sleepy bear ;)
[11:04] <ajmitch> heh
[11:23] <frandavid100> hey guys
[11:23] <frandavid100> I gave this idea in the gutsy forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410351
[11:24] <frandavid100> It's about ubuntu for internet cafes, and it's closely related to thin-client-manager
[11:25] <frandavid100> so, you being the experts in TCM I would appreciate it if you could take a look at it and contribute with ideas, or just say that it can or it cannot be done
[11:25] <Burgwork> frandavid100: merely needs developers
[11:25] <frandavid100> that's why
[11:25] <frandavid100> if you can say what is needed, maybe it will get some attention
[11:26] <frandavid100> maybe someone will like the idea and code a plugin for tcm
[11:26] <Burgwork> you need a couple of things
[11:26] <Burgwork> 1. ability to easily turn on guest accounts
[11:26] <Burgwork> 2. a daemon to control time
[11:26] <Burgwork> 3. a tool to manage 2
[11:27] <frandavid100> yup, the guest account thing has been proposed as well
[11:28] <frandavid100> anyway I would like you guys to say that there in the thread, I don't have any technical knowledge so if you give some info in the thread it will be more useful than telling... well, me.
[11:28] <frandavid100> you'd be taken more seriously too, being tcm devs
[11:32] <Burgwork> guest account has nothing to do with tcm
[11:34] <frandavid100> then I didn't understand you when you said that you need to easily turn on guest accounts
[11:37] <LaserJock> frandavid100: well, you'll want a guest account for people to us, right?
[11:38] <LaserJock> you wouldn't want each person to get their own account
[11:40] <ajmitch> hi Burgwork
[11:40] <frandavid100> yup
[11:40] <ajmitch> the gutsy forum is open already? interesting
[11:41] <frandavid100> there is supposed to be a guest account, where all new files and settings would be deleted after logoff
[11:41] <frandavid100> at least that's the proposal
[11:42] <LaserJock> ajmitch: have you seen how many "ideas" there are? :-)
[11:43] <LaserJock> frandavid100: right, but that has nothing to do with TCM
[11:43] <ajmitch> LaserJock: just looking & wincing now
[11:43] <ajmitch> wonderful ideas, all of them
[11:44] <frandavid100> yeah, but tcm could control clients in an internet cafe environments right?
[11:44] <LaserJock> sure
[11:44] <frandavid100> that's my point
[11:44] <frandavid100> the guest accounts would just serve the same purpose
[11:44] <Burgwork> hey ajmitch
[11:53] <cbx33> hey Burgwork
[12:00] <frandavid100> well, I gotta leave
[12:01] <frandavid100> please speak your mind in the thread, even if to say how someone who wants to do the necessary plugins can contact you
[12:01] <frandavid100> bye!
[12:08] <Burgwork> hey cbx33