[12:13] <Tm_T> :)
[12:13] <Tm_T> I saw it somewhere in website but just can't find it now
[12:13] <mhb> Tm_T: but I'm not sure how the process works, ask at -marketing or elsewhere, I guess
[12:14] <Tm_T> yup, will ask
[03:02] <DaSkreech> manchicken: Ha ha :)
[03:02] <Tm_T> ?
[03:02] <DaSkreech> Google bought doubleClick
[03:48] <DaSkreech> !globulation2
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about globulation2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <DaSkreech> !glob2 feisty
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glob2 feisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <DaSkreech> !innfo glob2 feisty
[03:48] <DaSkreech> !info glob2 feisty
[03:48] <ubotu> glob2: innovative state-of-the-art Real Time Strategy (RTS) game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.21-4build1 (feisty), package size 879 kB, installed size 2264 kB
[04:03] <manchicken> DaSkreech: And I left doubleclick :)
[04:04] <DaSkreech> manchicken: I know!! You could have gotten loads of gogole stock first then left!
[04:04] <manchicken> Yeah, right.
[04:04] <manchicken> My job at Performics/DoubleClick won't exist in 6 months.
[04:04] <DaSkreech> Oh? no one leaves google? :)
[04:05] <DaSkreech> manchicken: replaced by Redhat install number 4572-45624-937B
[04:06] <manchicken> Later.
[04:52] <Tm_T> Morning to all
[04:53] <Hobbsee> hi Tm_T!
[04:53] <Tm_T> uhm, hi?
[04:53] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:53] <Tm_T> whatever it is, I didn't do it
[04:54] <Tm_T> :)
[04:55] <Hobbsee> awww
[04:56] <Tm_T> so that's what I expect
[04:57] <Tm_T> let's see what feedback I get from "work" since I wasn't there whole last week
[05:06] <nixternal> why not
[05:06] <nixternal> I got a threat email tonight
[05:06] <nixternal> so I am in a pissy mood
[05:06] <Hobbsee> oh?
[05:06] <Hobbsee> :(
[05:07] <nixternal> Hobbsee: have you seen that Tux500 marketing thing for the race car?
[05:07] <nixternal> I made a joke post about it, in which you can see on the serious side I supported it if it was real
[05:07] <Hobbsee> nixternal: i havent, no
[05:07] <nixternal> the guy said he is going to blog about my response, and he gets a whopping 20k hits on his blog
[05:08] <nixternal> I replied, Rated R of course, and let him know that 20k blog hits is what I get 15 minutes after clicking post seeing as I am planetized
[05:08] <nixternal> he really pissed me off tonight
[05:09] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:09] <Hobbsee> oh dear
[05:12] <Tm_T> =)
[05:12] <Tm_T> kids
[05:14] <DaSkreech> gotta have em
[05:15] <Tm_T> actually small kids are fun, lot of work but fun
[05:15] <Tm_T> <3
[05:16] <Tm_T> oh boy, somewhat miss my school assistant job
[05:41] <nixternal> Hobbsee: http://www.nixternal.com/wtf.html
[05:41] <nixternal> it may have some anti-coc wording, but oh well, I have seen worse
[05:42] <Tm_T> nixternal: bad boy
[05:42] <nixternal> bad no, pissed yes (and if you are from the UK, i do realize that pissed means drunk, I don't drink, so it is the other pissed) :)
[05:43] <Hobbsee> nixternal: fun
[05:48] <Tm_T> nixternal: ok, my point of view your response sound quite american, and then I realised you are =)
[05:48] <nixternal> LOL
[05:48] <nixternal> oops, caps
[05:48] <Tm_T> all those "shit and fuck"
[05:48] <nixternal> hahaha
[05:48] <Tm_T> you should hear finnish cursing
[05:49] <nixternal> ya, I typically do not curse, you can ask everyone I hang out with
[05:49] <nixternal> but I was mad
[05:49] <nixternal> can't say that I have ever heard Finnish cursing
[05:49] <Tm_T> nixternal: I think we have over 20 names for hell and devil just for cursing
[05:49] <nixternal> lol
[05:50] <Tm_T> I never understood why
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: outside of normal uses of hell and devil
[05:50] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: outside and inside, how ever you like :)
[05:50] <nixternal> haha
[05:51] <Tm_T> just, weird
[05:51] <nixternal> Hobbsee: ditto
[05:51] <nixternal> people in Ubuntu Chicago said the same
[05:53] <DaSkreech>  maybe twice if you count in my sleep
[05:53] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: no, that's snoring
[05:53] <DaSkreech> packages on Universe update whenever they want right?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Well if it's my dad snoring then it causes cursing
[05:54] <DaSkreech> You can hear him in the neighbours house
[05:54] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: know the type
[05:54] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: hrm?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: hrm?
[05:55] <Hobbsee> [13:53]  <DaSkreech> packages on Universe update whenever they want right?
[05:55] <DaSkreech> what are you hrmming about?
[05:55] <Tm_T> yes, packages has their own mind
[05:55] <DaSkreech> I mean that they can have significant updates even within a release?
[05:55] <Tm_T> *pop* I updated myself!
[05:55] <Hobbsee> no
[05:55] <Hobbsee> they're still in freeze, etc
[05:55] <Hobbsee> see the schedule
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Unlike main where they are basically locked once released
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Man :( I want the new globulation2 :(
[05:56] <DaSkreech> and a new wesnoth came out today
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Though that's mostly bugfixin'
[05:56] <Tm_T> bugfixing is good
[05:56] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: no new versions of anything at this point
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Which I guess would have to be riddell
[05:57] <DaSkreech> anyway i'm infecting a workplace tomorrow
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu Feisty (mostly) all around!
[05:58] <Tm_T> =)
[05:58] <DaSkreech> they always get impressed when I come around :)
[05:58] <Tm_T> I afraid we don't have many Feisty cd:s in release party :(
[05:59] <DaSkreech> and no PS3 onoes
[05:59] <DaSkreech> poor Fluxbuntu :(
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Why was PPC dropped?
[06:00] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: see the ubuntu-devel ML for the rationale
[06:00] <Hobbsee> basically, prioritising other things
[06:00] <DaSkreech> ah ok. So if some enterprising young whippersnapper wanted to come and build stuff he could
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Doh!
[06:01] <DaSkreech> knew I was forgetting something
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Commit-digest
[06:04] <DaSkreech> oh...
[06:04] <DaSkreech> well I'm out. Gnight!
[08:53] <_marseillais> is there someone for a packaging question please?
[08:58] <_marseillais> fdoving, ?
[09:48] <_StefanS_> morning
[10:38] <_StefanS_> kwwii: hey
[10:38] <_StefanS_> kwwii: you there?
[10:38] <_StefanS_> kwwii: are you crusin' in your mercedes .. ?
[01:19] <Riddell> nixternal: this docs package is insane
[01:19] <Riddell> it's taken all morning to build
[01:19] <Riddell> and it's still going
[01:48] <crimsun> yeah, he mentioned it takes longer than 8 hours
[02:31] <raphink> 8 hours for docs O_o
[02:32] <raphink> yop Tonio_
[02:32] <Hobbsee> hi raphink
[02:32] <raphink> hi Hobbsee
[02:32] <Riddell> still going..
[02:32] <raphink> hi Riddell
[02:32] <raphink> and how's it going?
[02:33] <Tonio_> hey ;)
[02:33] <Tonio_> Riddell: hi ;) did you get exiv2 in ?
[02:33] <Tonio_> Riddell: I still don't have my powerplug, I'll be disconnected soon....
[02:33] <Tonio_> still in a box somewhere in the mess my new appartment is ;)
[02:33] <Hobbsee> hi Riddell, Tonio_
[02:33] <raphink> haha
[02:33] <Tonio_> raphink, Hobbsee ;)
[02:36] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:56] <bddebian> Heya
[03:22] <Hobbsee> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2007-April/023579.html to anyone who wishes to test
[03:23] <Riddell> please do
[03:23] <Riddell> freeflying__: able to test powerpc?
[03:23] <Riddell> kwwii_: are you able to test powerpc too?
[03:23] <Riddell> it's in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/
[03:23] <kwwii_> Riddell: yepp
[03:24] <kwwii_> I'll download and test
[03:25] <nixternal> Riddell: how insane?
[03:26] <nixternal> Riddell: I say for 7.10 we do the main docs pkg and then a language pkg
[03:26] <freeflying__> Riddell: can't now, I'd access to internet with my poor CDMA mobile now
[03:29] <larsivi> I have installed sun-java6-plugin, but konqueror does not seem to pick it up
[03:32] <Riddell> nixternal: well it's still going
[03:32] <nixternal> haha, Riddell it took me 8 hours
[03:32] <Riddell> waa
[03:32] <nixternal> ya
[03:32] <Riddell> I can't guarantee that it'll get accepted
[03:33] <nixternal> reason being is we have translations and country codes that the docbook/xml entities do not cover
[03:33] <nixternal> so it hangs on them
[03:33] <Riddell> how big is the resulting .deb?
[03:33] <nixternal> well, if it doesn't get accepted then there will be no translations. We need to just switch to .docbook and do it the kde way instead of building out html all of the time
[03:34] <nixternal> just under 4mb
[03:34] <nixternal> it is the building of the html that is a pita
[03:38] <jsgotangco> they are?
[03:43] <nixternal> what does ubuntu/kubuntu/ and the rest use as the main boot screen on a Desktop CD? what is that called (i.e. for a boog report)
[03:43] <Hobbsee> usplash?
[03:44] <kwwii_> nixternal: what is the problem - is it the new version artwork?
[03:44] <nixternal> nah, someone created a bug and marked it ubuntu-docs for some wording on the f2 function
[03:44] <kwwii_> nixternal: whew :-)
[03:44] <nixternal> hehe
[03:44] <kwwii_> debian-cd is what it is called I think
[03:45] <nixternal> hrmm
[03:46] <ScottK> I have decided to try and become an Ubuntu member.  If there are Kubuntu people that are available and willing to support me in this, the CC meeting is April 17 2007, 20:00 UTC.  My wiki page is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScottKitterman.  Comments if you have them please. Sorry for the IRC spam for those of you on #ubuntu-motu.
[03:47] <Hobbsee> ScottK: woo!
[03:57] <nixternal> if you blast your ~/.kde/share/config/kwin* stuff, logging in will rebuild them correct?
[03:58] <Hobbsee> nixternal: yeah
[03:58] <nixternal> thought so, just wanted to be sure before I told someone to do so
[03:59] <Hobbsee> i'm pretty sure, anyway
[04:02] <nixternal> we will find out
[04:02] <nixternal> I told him to rm ~/.kde/share/config/kwin*
[04:02] <nixternal> hehe
[04:24] <Tonio_> Riddell: ping ?
[04:25] <Riddell> hi Tonio_
[04:26] <Riddell> doesn't look like new exiv2 got in
[04:27] <kwwii_>  Riddell: the live CD works great but when installing it hangs on "prepare disk space" with a pop-up saying "scanning disks" (it goes very quickly to 50% and then does not move anymore)
[04:28] <Riddell> erk
[04:29] <kwwii_> oh boy, and there are serious issues with the usplash on shutdown
[04:30] <Riddell> on powerpc?
[04:30] <Tonio_> Riddell: ;)
[04:30] <kwwii_> Riddell: yepp, on my powerbook
[04:30] <Tonio_> Riddell: did you get exiv2 in ?
[04:30] <Riddell> usplash has never worked for me on powerpc
[04:30] <Riddell> 15:26 < Riddell> doesn't look like new exiv2 got in
[04:31] <Tonio_> Riddell: oops, sorry ;)
[04:31] <kwwii_> Riddell: and the last "please remove the disk and press ENTER" doesn't work either
[04:32] <Tonio_> Riddell: of course too late now, we'll only get the fix next version :(
[04:32] <Tonio_> Riddell: the bug was probably not critical enough...
[04:36] <imbrandon> kwwii_, that has never worked for me on ppc
[04:36] <imbrandon> ( the enter on shutdown )
[04:38] <kwwii_> imbrandon: yeah, I have seen that before as well
[04:38] <kwwii_> lol, now it will not even boot the live CD
[04:39] <kwwii_> serious problems on this machine
[05:11] <hunger> Tonio_: At least there will be the promise to fix it for the next version;-)
[05:14] <Tonio_> hunger: hehe, indeed :)
[05:19] <hunger> I really wonder why ubuntu always sucks bigtime right before a release.
[05:23] <mhb> hunger: the kernel will be patched one more time at least, I guess
[06:15] <nixternal> Riddell: I just noticed a booboo in that docs package :(
[06:15] <Riddell> nixternal: what's that?
[06:16] <Riddell> dh_install: kubuntu-docs missing files (build/kubuntu/programming/C/*), aborting
[06:16] <Riddell> make: *** [install/kubuntu-docs]  Error 1
[06:16] <Riddell> !
[06:16] <Riddell> pbuilder: Failed autobuilding of package
[06:16] <nixternal> something changed with the firefox startpage where there is no css
[06:16] <Riddell> I got that build failure after 7 hours
[06:17] <nixternal> argh
[06:17] <nixternal> I want to know how the css changes got in there, I never changed them between the -5 package and this one
[06:21] <greg_g> Does the new "Restricted Drivers" feature for ATI video cards take into account widescreen LCDs??  The reason I ask is that the default installation method does not work for my Acer AL2016W monitor, it says "input no supported"  I have to use the Mesa drivers for my ATI 9250
[06:22] <greg_g> I was wondering because I could provide a test system to work out the kinks for widescreen lcds with ATI
[06:22] <nixternal> Riddell: ahhhhhhh!!@!@#@
[06:22] <Riddell> which new "Restricted Drivers" feature?
[06:22] <nixternal> hrmm
[06:23] <nixternal> actually I don't think that would be hit
[06:23] <nixternal> it rather
[06:23] <ScottK> greg_g: Support for Feisty is #ubuntu+1
[06:25] <greg_g> yeah, well, I as you know, it is busier than ever in there, and requests for help are overlooked many times, and since this is the developers channel, I though maybe a simple "does the new feature include this" question would be able to be answered
[06:25] <greg_g> (take out that "I")
[06:25] <greg_g> (the first one)
[06:26] <mhb> greg_g: the problem is, we're no Ubuntu developers
[06:26] <Riddell> it's a fair question, but it's unclear what feature you're talking about
[06:27] <mhb> greg_g: you probably mean the "Restricted Drivers Manager" or the automatic proprietary driver installation, but we don't develop these two features
[06:27] <mhb> greg_g: so we can't help you much
[06:27] <Riddell> we might be able to point in the right direction though :)
[06:28] <greg_g> mhb: ok, I wasn't sure if you had input on those new feature or not
[06:28] <mhb> greg_g: if your question is overlooked at #ubuntu+1 you may try a forum (ubuntuforums or a LoCo forum perhaps)
[06:28] <mhb> greg_g: or a mailing list
[06:31] <greg_g> mhb/Riddell: yeah, I am referring ot the automatic proprietary driver instalation feature.  Because in trying to get the 3d to work on my ATI 9250 (don't need the 3d, just trying to figure it out) the output of the video card is not supported by the monitor.  So, I was just wondering if the new "automatic proprietary driver installation" takes that into account.
[06:31] <mhb> greg_g: I have no idea, to be honest. Someone on the forums/mailing lists might, though.
[06:31] <greg_g> I am not asking HOW to install the driver, just if the automatic driver installation knows there are some problems
[06:31] <greg_g> yeah, I was just taking a long shot
[06:32] <greg_g> thanks though
[06:32] <mhb> greg_g: you can also search the web/forums first, there might be information about it
[06:33] <greg_g> searched and searched the forums
[06:33] <greg_g> read all the wikis, all the howtos
[06:33] <fdoving> greg_g: what do you mean the output of the video card is not supported by the monitor- in what way?
[06:33] <greg_g> from what I can tell, there is some mis-communication between the settings that allow 3d and my monitor
[06:33] <Riddell> greg_g: where is this automatic proprietary driver instalation feature?
[06:34] <greg_g> Riddell: the Restricted Drivers Manager feature I believe
[06:34] <greg_g> in Fiesty
[06:34] <mhb> greg_g: I believe that is Ubuntu-only
[06:34] <mhb> not Kubuntu
[06:34] <mhb> not yet, that is
[06:35] <_ded> mhb: hello, what have you done on gdebi kde port?
[06:35] <atypic> whaaaa
[06:35] <greg_g> fdoving: when the driver is installed the old fashioned manual way (by the wiki/documentation/etc howtos) the monitor flashes a box "input not supported" on the screen.  like how your monitor says "no input" or whatever.  It is a monitor message
[06:35] <fdoving> greg_g: could it be too high resolution?
[06:36] <greg_g> mhb: oh, ubuntu only?  This might show my ignorance, but wouldn't that feature, if run in gnome save the settings so kde could use them?
[06:36] <Riddell> greg_g: this is the GUI app that lets you tick a box to setup restricted drivers?
[06:37] <greg_g> fdoving: shouldn't be, I manually edited the xorg.conf file to only include my monitor's native resolution
[06:37] <mhb> greg_g: of course, but we as in Kubuntu folks don't know this application much
[06:37] <fdoving> greg_g: does /var/log/Xorg.0.log give any usefull output?
[06:38] <fdoving> greg_g: that log is rotated on each X start, so you might have Xorg.1.log and so on.
[06:38] <greg_g> isn't there an option in KDE for drivers (just looked at it last night) where there is a radial selection between "proprietary" and "open source" or something?
[06:38] <ScottK> atypic: I rolled my clamav back to an old version and tried the klamav update clamav button and it not only didn't crash, it downloaded the new clamav from upstream, compiled it on my box, and used it.
[06:38] <greg_g> fdoving: lemme see, for a while I used it to just help me get the driver installed, I actually forgot to look at it last night after the "input not supported" error
[06:39] <mhb> _ded: I started the implementation in Python
[06:39] <mhb> _ded: wrote a bit of code, frontend mostly
[06:39] <mhb> _ded: is there a problem?
[06:39] <atypic> .. what the..
[06:40] <ScottK> It helped that I had all the build-depends already installed since I've built clamav on that box, but what a suprise.
[06:40] <nixternal> Riddell: I am uploading a new debdiff, don't think it will speed up build time, but it will fix that crash out issue
[06:40] <fdoving> ScottK: that's the idea with that feature. it'll compile everything under ~/.klamav/
[06:41] <fdoving> if you have the build depends of course.
[06:41] <Riddell> nixternal: thanks, although it's most likely way too late to get it in, we should look at getting it into -updates
[06:41] <ScottK> Yeah, I was just suprised it worked.
[06:41] <fdoving> hehe.. wouldn't be there if it didn't work.
[06:41] <nixternal> Riddell: as long as we can get it in :)
[06:41] <fdoving> good thing it doesn't try to install to /usr/ something.
[06:41] <ScottK> fdoving: Before the patch you found it just sigsegv'ed, so who knew.
[06:41] <_ded> mhb: not at all but i just want to start whith same code
[06:42] <fdoving> ScottK: yeah, suse rocks :)
[06:42] <ScottK> Don't get me started on them.  My first and last opensuse install was 10.1
[06:42] <nixternal> Riddell: how long do we have until we can get it into updates?
[06:42] <nixternal> maybe we can figure out a way to tweak the makefile to make it build faster
[06:43] <Riddell> nixternal: I don't think it opens under after release with soyuz.  also it may well need to go through the whole -proposed method
[06:43] <fdoving> ScottK: i don't mean the distribution, i can't stand it. but the people and their kde-work rocks :)
[06:43] <ScottK> Ah.
[06:44] <ScottK> Well I've verified that klamav will use the new packaged clamav after an upgrade and you can just delete the .klamav copy and it's good.
[06:44] <nixternal> roger that, at least we have a solid initial docs release. hopefully people won't have to wait forever to get the translations, like for Edgy
[06:44] <fdoving> ScottK: nice :)
[06:46] <mhb> _ded: in python?
[06:47] <_ded> mhb: could you send me your code and ui file by mail? and could we disparch fonctions to port?
[06:47] <_ded> mhb: yes in python
[06:47] <mhb> _ded: that's good to hear
[06:48] <mhb> _ded: one moment
[06:48] <_ded> mhb: after speak with other i must reconize that you were right
[06:50] <nixternal> Riddell: I am going to mess around and test a package locally here within in the next week or so that would mimic kde docs, but with kubuntu docs, and if it works, I will create a spec to implement this setup for 7.10
[06:50] <nixternal> it wouldn't require a Makefile at all, and would just copy the .docbook files to the proper location, kind of like what ubuntu-docs do with xml
[06:51] <mhb> everybody's doin' the mess around
[06:51] <nixternal> hehe
[06:55] <mhb> _ded: do you know how to use the 'bzr' VCS?
[06:56] <mhb> _ded: if so, you can checkout the code at https://code.launchpad.net/~martin.bohm/gdebi/gdebi-kde
[06:59] <ScottK> fdoving: I think for Gutsy I'll make a new metapackage that brings in all the build depends for klamav and clamav so this'll be easy to make work.
[06:59] <fdoving> ScottK: good idea :)
[07:00] <_ded> mhb: no i don't know but i ll learn ;-)
[07:11] <_ded> mhb: you are using pyqt,why don't use pykde?
[07:15] <mhb> _ded: I'll use pykde
[07:16] <mhb> _ded: I just used the qt designer to sketch the UI quickly
[07:16] <mhb> _ded: it shouldn't be too hard to migrate
[07:17] <mhb> _ded: it's not final how the UI will look
[07:17] <mhb> _ded: as it is under review
[07:20] <_ded> mhb: app = QApplication(sys.argv) and import qt *
[07:20] <_ded> mhb: i tryed to do it with kdevelop designer and eric3
[07:21] <_ded> mhb: it work correctely for generate kde app
[07:22] <mhb> _ded: I ran into some migration problems, so I didn't migrate it to pykde yet
[07:22] <mhb> _ded: sorry for adding an outdated .ui file in my last commit, I've added the more recent ones now
[07:23] <_ded> mhb: ok thanks
[07:26] <mhb> _ded: note that I've just started the code, it's not supposed to be finished tomorrow, you know :o)
[07:27] <_ded> mhb: i know that was just one thing that hurt me
[07:27] <_ded> mhb: like i was looking for doing same
[07:28] <_ded> mhb: but you worked right
[07:29] <instructor> Whooot Let the infection begin :)
[07:30] <mhb> _ded: what do you want to do now?
[07:30] <mhb> _ded: now that you know I work on that
[07:33] <_ded> mhb: from GDebi.GDebiKDE import GDebiKDE where is it?
[07:34] <_ded> mhb: how can i help you? what do you what's me to do?
[07:35] <mhb> _ded: the GDebiKDE.py file in the GDebi directory ... that's the core of the frontend
[07:36] <_ded> mhb: ok i haven't seen that i could enter in the folder
[07:37] <mhb> _ded: I am not sure if you are allowed to participate in the code I should be doing for the Google Summer of Code, I have to ask Jonathan Riddell, my mentor, about that. But I am certain we can think of something :o)
[07:38] <mhb> _ded: can I send you an email tomorrow?
[07:38] <_ded> of course
[07:39] <_ded> mhb: if you want
[07:41] <mhb> _ded: of course I want
[07:41] <mhb> _ded: I am happy whenever there is a volunteer like you
[07:42] <mhb> _ded: I am sorry you have to wait, but I need to know first if you are allowed to help me
[07:42] <_ded> mhb: if i could help !
[07:45] <nixternal> how is a debdiff 43M when the total pkg size is less than 10M
[07:45] <nixternal> that is crazy
[07:50] <instructor> nixternal: Lots of ooooops moments?
[07:51] <nixternal> I forgot about all of the translation stuff in it
[07:51] <nixternal> Riddell: http://www.nixternal.com/docs/kubuntu/7.04-6
[08:07] <fdoving> cmake is so nice.
[08:07] <fdoving> i'm starting to like kde4.
[08:07] <fdoving> the feature to lock toolbars is also nice.
[08:11] <nixternal> grr
[08:11] <nixternal> KDE4 doesn't like me
[08:12] <nixternal> man, the US is mad. Virginia Tech, the college just had the worst shooting ever recorded in american history, 32+ dead, 28+ injured, 4+ critical
[08:12] <nixternal> at a college campus
[08:22] <fdoving> nixternal: ouch. ugly.
[08:22] <nixternal> ya it is
[08:29] <ScottK> atypic: There's still a sigsegv hanging out in the klamav package (in klammail).  Care to have a go at it? Bug #103202 with two dupes (one against the new package)?
[08:29] <ubotu> Malone bug 103202 in klamav "[apport]  klammail crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103202
[08:41] <_StefanS_> evening
[08:41] <mhb> evening
[08:42] <_StefanS_> mhb, manchicken, kwwii_ and others :)
[08:42] <_StefanS_> mhb: anything new happening ?
[08:45] <manchicken> Howdy.
[08:56] <instructor> _StefanS_: I'm installing Kubuntu feisty all over this office
[08:56] <_StefanS_> instructor: nice :)
[08:57] <_StefanS_> instructor: and it works great too.. just had another one from the windows camp to migrate yesterday
[08:57] <atypic> ScottK: I'll take a look.
[08:57] <ScottK> Cool.
[08:57] <ScottK> atypic: If you get something figured out, I'll try and get it in.
[08:58] <instructor> _StefanS_: I get people from ubuntu to switch :-)
[08:59] <instructor>  They LIke he new artwork
[08:59] <_StefanS_> hehe nice
[08:59] <_StefanS_> but great they're using linux to start with
[08:59] <_StefanS_> gnome was never really my cup of tea, but some like it
[09:00] <_StefanS_> anyone know what kind of stuff to expect in kde 3.5.7 (bugfixes I guess?)
[09:04] <atypic> hm.
[09:07] <mhb> _StefanS_: what else?
[09:08] <_StefanS_> mhb: ??
[09:08] <mhb> _StefanS_: what else other than bugfixes
[09:08] <_StefanS_> mhb: well that was my question also :)
[09:09] <Lure> _StefanS_: lots of kmail imap fixes
[09:10] <_StefanS_> Lure: great, for an application that I dont use :) - what else ?
[10:18] <instructor> 30 dead
[10:19] <n8k99> dreadful
[11:00] <atypic> studenter har ikkje fri :)
[11:00] <atypic> wops.
[11:14] <instructor> Where do I get the source code for test?
[11:17] <atypic> ScottK: Do you have any tips on reproducing that kmail error? Been stepping throug for a while..
[11:18] <ScottK> atypic: No.  I haven't been able to reproduce it.  I gather it's real because of multiple reports.
[11:20] <atypic> Ok, am I doing something completly silly with launchpad? I'm seeing 2 bugs right now, 103202 and 96496 - should there be more?
[11:21] <atypic> Yeah, I've been digging around... I'll just keep at it then.
[11:22] <atypic> Ah, never mind - my bugfilters were set up strangely.