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hitmanWillyphilphoto, ok im going to introduce you to man pages12:12
hitmanWillyphilphoto, type "man ln" in konsole12:12
Sannepieman: yes, there's a way I think. The default install of php is as an apache module, but I believe theres also a binary you can run from the cli. Let me look.12:12
philphotoyeah, I have a bit of a problem with man pages12:13
hitmanWillyphilphoto, oh, ok12:13
philphotobecause to look up the page you want to see, you need to know what the nomenclature for the app is.12:13
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hitmanWillyphilphoto, what ln does is link a file from one location to another12:14
hitmanWillyphilphoto, sort of like a shortcut12:14
philphotook12:14
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Sannepieman: I guess it would be the package php4-cli, look at the description here, sounds like it: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/php4-cli12:14
hitmanWillyphilphoto, the syntax goes ln -s <actual file> <link>12:14
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piemanSanne, thanks.12:15
hitmanWillyphilphoto, the system sees the link as the actual file, without having to copy the whole thing over12:15
Sannepieman: lol, this is good: "if you're frightened of perl and python" ;)12:15
hitmanWillyphilphoto, so i would suggest creating a link to the library file where the system is looking for it12:16
philphotook, would that look like: <ln -s "/usr/lib/iscan/libesint54.so" "/usr/lib/libesint54.so">  ?12:17
hitmanWillyphilphoto, yup, without the <> braces12:18
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dsmith_where does java load to?12:18
dsmith_typically12:18
hitmanWillyphilphoto, also quotes not necessary12:18
philphotohitmanWilly: of course.  sweet.  thanks so much.12:18
hitmanWillynp12:18
philphotoquotes are NOT necessary in this respect?12:18
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dsmith_"/usr/lib/ jvm??12:18
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hitmanWillyphilphoto, variables, yes, system commands. no12:18
hitmanWillyphilphoto, but they won't hurt anything12:19
Cosmo_ I downloaded the .debs for my brother 1840c printer since it is not on the list that comes up when adding a printer, but when I install the .deb it still doesn't come up on the list. What am I doing wrong?12:19
piemanSanne: lol, i would prefer to write my script in perl/python, but i dunno how! :p12:19
philphotook, is there anything that is needed to go between the two file paths?12:19
hitmanWillyphilphoto, nope12:19
hitmanWillyphilphoto, a space12:19
dsmith_nm I found it12:19
dsmith_I as right12:19
dsmith_:)12:19
philphotocool, cool.  I'll let you know if it  works12:20
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hitmanWillyphilphoto, which reminds me, you DO need quotes anytime a path or filename has a space in it12:20
Sannepieman: heh. php is nice. But I can recommend python, it's easy to pick up, actually. I also knew php first, but I have already scripted my first little scripts in python. It's great.12:20
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hitmanWillyphilphoto, which is why linux people like -'s or _'s :)12:21
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piemanSanne: I think i will check it out at some point...I use java for most of my programming needs, but for very simple stuff with mysql, i am much happier with php, since the development speed is much faster as it doesn't complain about much :p12:22
Sannepieman: if you ever want to have a go, this one has helped me tremendously: http://swaroopch.info/text/Byte_of_Python:Main_Page12:22
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macabro22excuse me. How do I check if I have the right video driver installed?12:22
piemanSanne: does python come with a mysql connection module by default?12:23
hitmanWillypieman, i don't think so, but it has one available12:23
Sannepieman: I guess it's somewhere in the repositories, but I don't know if it's also installed already. I guess not, since python is so very modular. Let me look.12:23
hitmanWillypieman, python-sql, i think12:23
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philphoto_hitmanWilly: how can I test the symblic link I just created?12:24
piemanin terms of performance, in executing from command line, which is going to be fastest and less system intensive for updating a mysql database, perl/python or php?12:24
Sannepieman: it's python-mysqldb. I have it installed, and can't remember to have done it manually. It might be there already.12:25
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philphoto_sorry if I posted that twice.  router just reset & I may have duplicated the msg12:25
hitmanWillyphilphoto, just ls the directory and see if its there12:25
piemanSanne, thanks, i'll probably have a go at this soon.12:26
Sannepieman: I dunno about performance. As a hunch, I would say php is mainly made for the web, python and pperl for scripting, so they might be faster. But that's just an uninformed guess.12:26
Sannepieman: you're welcome, have fun12:26
philphoto_hitmanWilly: yup, it's there12:27
piemanbut they are all interpreted languages...so i wonder how much difference there is...12:27
hitmanWillyphilphoto_, good, should work then12:27
korrxmacabro22: lsmod |grep agpgart12:28
Sannepieman: yeah, would be interesting to know.12:28
hitmanWillyphilphoto_, unless the problem lies elsewhere12:28
philphoto_well, the problem is that the scanner utility reports the scanner has been found, but no driver is installed12:28
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philphoto_yeah.12:28
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shawn34ok guys, i've installed my wireless driver but having problems configuring and enabling... can anyone help me out?12:29
shawn34i was able to do this no problem in gnome12:29
shawn34not that its any different12:29
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_arafatshawn34: have you tried knetworkmanager?12:30
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shawn34_arafat: installed by default?12:31
shawn34where do i find it12:31
shawn34these menus are a little confusing12:31
philphoto_hitmanWilly: what is gcc 3.2/3.3?  vice gcc 3.4 or later?  is this a Linux kernel somethingorother?12:31
shawn34im from a gnome background12:31
shawn34lol12:31
_arafatshawn34: not sure whether it's installed by default...12:31
_arafatj12:31
_arafatshawn34: just try to start it:-)12:31
korrxphilphoto C++ copiler12:32
shawn34_arafat: i already did12:32
shawn34its not starting12:32
_arafatshawn34: but it's installed?12:32
philphoto_korrx: how do I find out which I'm using?  it appears that's an issue with this driver i'm trying to install12:32
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korrxphilphoto : gcc --version12:34
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philphoto_thx12:34
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korrxyou're welcome12:34
Sannephilphoto: if you compile a kernel module, you must use the same gcc version that was used to build the kernel. You can see that with: cat /proc/version12:35
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hitmanWillyphilphoto_, sorry, away for a sec12:36
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korrxSanne : YES !12:36
Sannekorrx: :)12:37
korrxcd /pub && more beer12:38
hitmanWillykorrx, actually shouldn't that be cd /pub && beer | less? i know, its not as funny that way :)12:39
korrx;)12:39
korrxless beer is sad12:40
hitmanWillyless is more :)12:40
korrx:P12:40
philphoto_my computer has no love for the scanner.  :(12:42
hitmanWillyphilphoto_, spitting out more errors, or the same one?12:42
philphoto_stupid @$$ drivers12:42
korrxcomputer has no feeling either12:42
philphoto_same one12:42
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korrx:D12:42
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os2machow do you modify the Grub boot menu?12:43
hitmanWillyos2mac, /boot/grub/menu.lst is the config file12:43
Sanneos2mac: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (make a backup first)12:43
philphoto_"VueScan found an Epson Perfection 4490, but no Epson software for this scanner was found on your system. Try downloading a driver for this scanner from www.avasys.jp/english. See the VueScan Release Notes for more information."12:43
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korrxsudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst12:43
shawn34can someone please help me get my wifi working?12:43
shaHello, i use X.org and i have a nvidia graphical card, do someone know how i can set my brightness/HUE/saturation for my desktop, and not for the videos only ?12:43
shawn34driver is installed and hardware is there12:44
shawn34but i can't enable it12:44
soulridersha: just a second12:44
soulridershawn34: i dont ahve wifi so i cant help you :(12:44
soulridersha, in desktop right click > configure desktop > display > monitor gamma12:45
hitmanWillysha, there's a gamma option in xorg.conf too, if you want to go that way12:45
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shasoulrider: right click on the desktop, i don't have the "configure desktop" option, and hitmanWilly, if you have  a way yeah, it's also can be usefull12:46
soulridersha: oh, im not on kubuntu at the moment actually12:47
shabecause on my nvidia preference, i can set only the brightness and gamma, but not the saturation or HUE, and i want absolutly fix the saturation12:47
shaand i'm on ubuntu feisty12:47
hitmanWillysha, saturation ive got no idea on, except manually on the monitor12:47
shaeven my monitor can't handle it12:48
hitmanWillysha, what nvidia card?12:48
philphoto_sha: are you trying to calibrate your monitor?12:48
shai use beryl, and beryl can fix the saturation on the windows, but only for the windows, i need it for the full desktop, and i use a gforce fx 520012:48
shait's a flat screen ACER12:48
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philphoto_are you trying to cal it for image processing/graphics use?12:49
hitmanWillysha, do you have the legacy drivers installed, i think the 5200's on the legacy list12:49
shayes, but not into the soft, i must  do it for the full desktop12:49
shait's not a legacy, i use the regular one12:49
shathe legacy crash X12:50
korrxnvidia-settings ; save your tweaks to a file and locate lines related to saturation and update your xorg.conf with that line12:50
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shakorrx: yes i want, but the line saturation don't exist and i have no idea how i can add it as option12:50
philphoto_right.  I just installed this & it works well: http://www.pcbypaul.com/software/GAMMApage.html12:50
korrxok sha12:51
korrxdo you tried with nvidia-settings ?12:51
shaphilphoto: it's a soft, i don't need a soft :p12:51
s0nixHi, is there a way to synchronize ALL Kontact information (including all plugins, note, read mail, todo list, contacts) ? cause i want to use this wonderful software on my home pc AND on my laptop. thx for ur answer12:52
philphoto_well, saturation is an adjustment, not native to most displays12:52
philphoto_it's going to have to be a software util12:52
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shakorrz: in nvidia-settings, i have Brightness, Contrast, Gamma12:52
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shasaturation is still missing12:53
shaand i must set it :/12:53
korrxoops12:53
shathat the only thign i really need to change12:53
korrx;)12:53
philphoto_what is forcing you to set saturation?12:53
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shathat what i try to know, how i can force the saturation of my screen12:53
shaBeryl manager can do that, but only for the windows, not for the full desktop12:54
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shaso i wonder if something can do that, because when i google it, all i found about saturation are for gimp or videos12:54
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os2macok, how do I turn sudo OFF?12:54
korrxin mine there is an option slider for brightness... sorry for you Sha..12:54
philphotofull screen saturation is not an option12:54
hitmanWillyos2mac, sudo is one time use only12:55
hitmanWillyos2mac, its not like su12:55
philphotothere only exist two adjustments on monitors.  contrast and brightness12:55
os2macthe point is I don't want to have to use it.12:55
shaphilphoto: some monitore have the saturation and it's somethign you can set on every monitore, but 90% of them, the option don't apear at all, so i wonder how i can force it12:56
shaat least into xorg.conf12:56
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philphotoit all goes back to gamma.12:56
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shaand it's because ppl don't use it, they have removed the option saturation in most of the monitores lol12:56
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hitmanWillyos2mac, well you can su to get root access, but its not a good idea to stay in that mode12:57
shaand gamma is not enough :/12:57
philphotowhat kind of saturation do you need?12:57
shagamma is limited, how i can force the limit then ?12:57
shatotaly gray12:57
os2macok lemme ask the question a little differently.12:57
shai must remove the color12:57
philphotoyou're trying to create a grayscale monitor?12:57
hitmanWillyos2mac, or just login as root, but that's a REALLY BAD idea12:57
shayes12:58
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os2macis there a way I can set a program to startup in admin mode (I.E. knetworkmanager) and NOT have to type a password three times everytime I login?12:58
philphotoah, you'll need to disable your colors then.12:58
shalol how XD12:58
philphotoI have no idea how.  may I ask why?12:58
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shathat what i try to do since lot of weeks now, and why, because i'm fully colorblind, and for some reason, i can't barely adjust the brightness and contrast of my screen for optimize my work if i don't remove the color first12:59
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philphotoaha.01:00
os2macanyone?01:00
Tm_Tsha: let me think...01:00
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Tm_Tsha: install kde-guidance01:01
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Tm_Tsha: then relogin to KDE, start kcontrol and in pheripherals there is display settings now01:02
hitmanWillyos2mac, it asks for the password for a reason. the only way i can think of would be to use a blank line for a root password, but again that is definately NOT reccommended01:02
Tm_Tsha: there should be gamma settings01:02
Tm_Tsha: I think that help for adjusting stuff01:02
shaTm_T, i'm installing it, but errr i'm on gnome01:02
Tm_Tsha: I see, dunno about gnome side01:03
Tm_Tsha: tried #ubuntu ?01:03
Sannesha: might want to ask in #ubuntu01:03
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hitmanWillyTm_T, words out of my mouth01:03
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shahmmmm i see lol, i use konversation lmao, that why i'm on kubuntu01:03
Tm_ThitmanWilly: I'm not coming near to your mouth, even if you dream of01:03
shaX301:03
hitmanWillylol01:04
shaso thank you everyone for your help01:04
shai will see on ubuntu :p01:04
os2macok so I have to enter a password for kwallet, knetworkmanager, AND to login. do you see my point?01:04
Tm_Tsha: and if there won't be any help, slap me01:04
shaTm_T: carefull, the #ubuntu chan is weird sometime X301:05
piemanSanne: that works great...except it didn't work at first because of an error, so i corrected that, but it still didnt work. so went back online for more help. just sat and looked at it, and i'm trying to parse a file, but using the wrong file name, which is the problem. doh. :p01:05
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Tm_Tsha: I have heard it'd busy, so I avoid it01:05
hitmanWillyos2mac, kwallet only needs a password once, it leaves a daemon running, but linux is supposed to work that way01:05
hitmanWillyos2mac, i mean, asking for passwords for system critical stuff01:06
Sannepieman: heh, been there :). Hmm, I don't know if you can set up php-cli to spit out errors in a logfile. With the apache module you can do it. Would help with those errors.01:06
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os2macbut I don't think your understanding my annoyance. I have to enter the same password three times before I can't do any work.01:07
piemansanne, not a scripting error...there is a line in a file that has to be commented out to make it work01:07
os2macsorry before I CAN do any work :)01:07
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piemanalthough i used c style comment instead of perl at first lol...too late at night for this!01:07
Sannepieman: ah ok :)01:07
Tm_Tos2mac: you should see how many passwords I enter when starting computer01:07
Tm_Tos2mac: one reason I keep it running all the time =)01:08
hitmanWillyos2mac, the only way around that is to login as root, and even then kwallet will still ask for a password on startup01:08
Tm_Tos2mac: and I do use ssh keys etc to avoid passwords01:08
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Tm_Tprice of security, I rather have it this way than let anyone do stuff around01:08
os2macTm_t: this is a laptop... it's impractical to be able to  be able to leave this computer running all the time.01:09
Tm_Tos2mac: I know, but three passwords isn't much01:09
Tm_Tif needed only when booting AND in some particular cases01:09
os2macyes... but it's about 2 too many.01:09
Tm_Tnot IMO01:09
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os2macbut IMO there should be a way to grant permissions to a known program upon install to allow to operate.01:11
Tm_Tnope01:11
Tm_Tbut you can set kwallet to passwordless01:12
Tm_Tand sudo also01:12
os2machow?01:12
hitmanWillyos2mac, the problem with only entering a password once is that it would have to be stored in memory somewhere, making it vulnerable to a buffer overflow or some such thing01:12
Tm_Tos2mac: kwallet is simple, or should, IIRC it let you set empty password -> passwordless01:13
Tm_TI don't help with sudo, that IMO would be too unsecurity01:13
os2macHitmanWilly. that is an invalid argument. A password is already stored anyway.01:13
Tm_Tbut there's tons of documentation for that one so you don't need my help anyway =)01:14
hitmanWillyos2mac, in an encrypted hdd file, not in ram01:14
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K-Ryan!ati01:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:14
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malusbonjour!01:15
scrubbHello01:15
malus:)01:15
os2macTM_t: you still have to enter a password to start the program because it runs in Root01:15
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SharpRazorI need help please anyone!!01:16
scrubbMe too!01:16
scrubbheh heh01:16
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SharpRazori had newest kernel .15 but when I booted to it i had no gui interface01:16
Cosmo_the NVIDIA x server doesn't have all the settings it had before and it's not recognizing that I have a second monitor connected. how do I fix this?01:16
Daisuke_Idowhy do you have to enter that many passwords.01:17
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scrubbEft isn't configuring eth0 correctly...01:17
Daisuke_Idobah, that'll teach me to scroll down before typing01:17
os2macDaisuke_ido, anytime a program has to run at Root you have to grant it access.01:17
scrubbSo I can't access the network/internet...01:17
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Daisuke_Idothat's...  how linux works.01:17
scrubbCan someone help me troubleshoot?01:18
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Joooooooehey how do I update adept?01:18
SharpRazorsudo apt-get update01:18
SharpRazorYou mean repositories?01:18
malusbut how can u enter a pass?01:18
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Joooooooescrubb: what's the problem?01:19
malusin root01:19
scrubbDHCP isn't working.01:20
scrubbThe system sees my ethernet device.01:20
malusis it possible to desactive dhcp without lost connection?01:21
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scrubbI have no connection to begin with...01:21
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scrubbcept for loopback maybe?01:21
Borg^Queenhi how do i update adept?01:22
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maluswhen u use 2 computers u need to use dhcp no?01:22
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scrubbI have a small home network.01:22
malushow your home network work :p01:23
shaok, screw #ubuntu, they are still dumb lol, i'm gonna remove gnome and go on KDE -.-01:23
wolferinecan someone give me a bit of understanding into sound in *buntu?01:23
wolferinesha, I wouldnt even remove Gnome01:23
wolferinejust keep it01:23
shalol01:24
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hitmanWillywolferine, as in what?01:24
malusbut yet01:24
Borg^Queensha welcome to the darkside01:24
scrubbmalus, it's a netgear router connected to a cable modem...2 computers on the router.01:24
shasudo /etc/init.d/gnm stop ?01:24
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wolferinehitmanWilly, as in what are there, multiple sound codecs, drivers, devices?01:24
hitmanWillyscrubb, is the router set up right?01:25
SharpRazorI installed accidentally ubuntu-desktop, i want to go back to kubuntu, what should i do??01:25
wolferinesha, check the Ubuntu Guide (google it) and it will show you have to install KDE on top of Gnome01:25
wolferineor, well side-by-side01:25
shathank wolferine :D01:26
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wolferineyeah, sha you might as well keep it01:26
hitmanWillywolferine, well, buntu doesn't come stock with any proprietary sound codecs due to legal issues, but you can get them from the repos01:26
wolferineyou might try it again :)01:26
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hitmanWillywolferine, as far as drivers, it uses alsa with oss emulation01:26
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wolferinehitmanWilly, so what is the default sound (or what are the types) used in *buntu?01:26
wolferineyeah, alsa01:27
wolferineand oss01:27
ratshellHello all, is kubuntu any different then ubuntu besides the kde?01:27
wolferinewhat are those really, just drivers?01:27
wolferineratshell, nope01:27
ratshellok you like kde better01:27
shafound it : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:27
wolferinei use Gnome myself ratshell01:27
ratshellwolferine, could you do me a favor01:27
wolferineand just add KDE apps, when I need them01:27
wolferinesha, the instructions are that easy01:28
hitmanWillywolferine, alsa is the system that talks to the sound drivers01:28
ratshellWolferine, could you come to the channel ubuntuhelp01:28
wolferineratshell, sorry, not atm01:28
shagnome and kde is like win 2000 and win xp i guess01:28
shaexcept they have each different appz01:28
ratshellOkay well when you can please I need to ask you something01:28
wolferinehitmanWilly, and where is my sound device located, or is there more than one?01:28
ratshellor sha could you come to the channel ubuntuhelp01:28
shawhat the # ?01:29
wolferinesha, you can use Gnome apps in KDE, and vice versa01:29
shai know01:29
hitmanWillywolferine, most sound device drivers are compiled as kernel modules or straight into the kernel even01:29
shai'm myself on Konversation :p01:29
SharpRazorsorry but i already did this sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:29
shawhat i meant is KDE and gnome are just a desktop environment01:29
SharpRazorhow can i uninstall whole ubuntu-desktop package??01:29
wolferineSharpRazor, why would you want to?01:30
ratshellsudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop01:30
SharpRazori did01:30
ratshellsudo apt-get uninstall ubuntu-desktop01:30
SharpRazorit didn't help at all,01:30
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hitmanWillySharpRazor, now apt-get autoremove01:30
wolferinehitmanWilly, where can I start to read abit more into it, eventually looking into configuring my VMware to run audio...01:30
ratshellwolferine, you tried virtual box?01:31
wolferineVMware01:31
wolferinethats it01:31
shaalso, if i remember for switch of desktop, we can use something like : sudo /usr/init.d/gdm stop  then sudo /usr/init.d/kdm start01:31
hitmanWillySharpRazor, since the ubuntu-desktop package isn't holding them as dependencies anymore, a LOT of apps should be removed01:31
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SharpRazoroh crap01:31
Sannesha: you can switch your desktop at login, with both kdm and gdm01:32
sha\0/01:32
hitmanWillySharpRazor, what happened?01:32
shai forgoten that Sanne01:32
Sannesha: :)01:32
shajust need to choose the option :p01:32
shahehe, i'm maybe too much CLI :p01:32
Sannehaha01:32
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SharpRazorwill it uninstall if i'm not in a safe mode??01:33
sha((anyway, that cuz i crashed too many time gnome <.<))01:33
hitmanWillySharpRazor, what?01:33
SharpRazorshouldn't I uninstall ubuntu-desktop while in safe mode??01:33
Dasnipa`um... no01:33
Dasnipa`it doesnt matter01:34
Dasnipa`at least i dont think it does01:34
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wolferinehitmanWilly, anything more you can offer?01:34
SharpRazorok01:34
Dasnipa`but im 99% sure it is fine01:34
ArwenSharpRazor, A) there's no safe mode. B) no, not really01:34
SharpRazori will check if it will work sha thank You01:34
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SharpRazoroh by the way, does any of You know a good backup distro?01:34
hitmanWillywolferine, well, you could try google or wikipedia for more info, most of mine comes from experience01:34
Dasnipa`Arwen, i think hes talking about the kernal safe mode...01:35
wolferineso alsa?01:35
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soskohi all01:35
hitmanWillywolferine, alsa is maintained by the alsa project, you could check their website01:35
soskohow do i install libpam-ldap and libnss-ldap modules on kubuntu 6.1001:35
wolferinebut is that a good place to start01:35
Borg^Queenhi how do i update adept?01:35
ArwenDasnipa`, the kernel doesn't have a safe mode...01:35
Cosmo_the NVIDIA x server doesn't have all the settings it had before and it's not recognizing that I have a second monitor connected. how do I fix this?01:36
shai be right back, i'm gonna try KDE :D01:36
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wolferinei would eventually like to record streaming audio as well01:36
sha\0/ KDE FTW01:36
hitmanWillywolferine, if all you're trying to do is get sound in VMware, try the ubuntu forums01:36
Dasnipa`Arwen, in grub whenever you get a new kernal 2 lines are added... the new kernal and the safe mode corresponding to it01:36
wolferineyeah, not just looking to troubleshoot a common problem here01:36
wolferinejust looking to understand the setup better01:36
hitmanWillywolferine, as for streaming audio, im pretty sure there's an app out there to do it01:36
jtthtdig: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21ubuntu1) but 1:4.1.1-13ubuntu5 is to be installed question is where would i find  1:4.1.1-21ubuntu101:36
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ArwenDasnipa`, the kernel doesn't have a a safe mode! you're talking about the "single user mode" which is not part of the kernel...01:37
ratshellWolferine, i know how to stream music01:37
Arwensingle user mode = runlevel 101:37
ratshellbrb01:37
orient2000#ubuntuhelp01:37
wolferineratshell, thats not what I am looking to do01:37
hitmanWillywolferine, if you're feeling particularly curious, there's always the source code to take a look at01:37
wolferineyeah, thanks hitman01:38
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ratshellwolferine, would you mind coming to channel #ubuntuhelp please01:38
ratshelljust have a question for you01:38
wolferineask me here01:38
sha\0/ i'm on KDE :D01:38
wordkalorin_: :'(01:38
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ratshellplease come to that channel, then I will exlain. just real quick that is all I ask01:38
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wolferinenope, sorry01:38
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ratshellWell I can't ask it here, cause certain admin officials do not like my question. And have currently blocked me from three other ubuntu channels because of it.01:39
wolferinethen maybe its not a good question to be asking01:39
hitmanWillyratshell, unless its about h4x0ring someone elses's box, just ask it01:39
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wolferineunless :)01:40
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ratshellOkay lets say you ask how to do something okay. Now I have done whatever it is in the past so I suggest something that has worked for me in the past. Do you think that is okay?01:40
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wolferinecan you rephrase the question?01:41
_Ace2016_hi all] 01:41
hitmanWillyummmmmmm01:41
hitmanWillynon comprende senior01:41
_Ace2016_how do i force a disk check? i tripped over the power cable :(01:41
ratshellOkay like some people having when upgrading to feisty problem with nvidia driver not working.01:41
Daisuke_Idoratshell: if it's a general fix or generally well known command, then yes, but if it's a worked-for-me weird solution, then probably not01:41
Daisuke_Idoit's a judgement call01:42
ratshellSo I suggested to them something that has worked for me and other people with the card they have.01:42
ratshellAnd because some of the officials say it isn't good advice. I got banned for giving it.01:42
ratshellDo you think this is wrong or right?01:42
Daisuke_Idofirst of all, is ubuntuhelp even an official ubuntu resource?01:42
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Daisuke_Idolike #ubuntu and #kubuntu are01:43
ratshelldo not know, I just went there and it is open....01:43
wolferineratshell, im sure bringing this up with us, well, will do nothing for you01:43
ratshellI know but just asking as a question01:43
wolferinewell, I asked you to rephrase01:43
ratshellI did01:43
wolferineand you didnt, so I cannot really answer01:43
wolferineu did?01:44
wolferinesorry01:44
ratshellOkay I know how to fix a problem you have. Do you think I should tell you how to fix it. Even if this is not an OFFICIAL way to fix it from UBUNUT.01:44
wolferinedidnt notice01:44
Tm_Tratshell: we are here too ;)01:44
ratshellTm_T I am just asking a question01:44
ratshellDo not ban me again please.01:44
Tm_Tratshell: what that is?01:44
ratshellSee wolferine, these are the people banned me earlier.01:45
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ratshellSo that is why i was worried about saying it.01:45
Daisuke_Idothen it was probably deserved01:45
wolferineratshell, well, maybe that might be a big hint to just drop it01:45
Tm_Tratshell: I didn't ban you01:45
Daisuke_Idobecause they tend to have pretty good judgement.01:45
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Tm_Tratshell: but if you just whine about it all around... well, let's say this way: this is not a place for that discussion01:45
wolferineanyways, who knows of a good linux/*buntu sound tutorial site?01:45
ratshellUbuntu sound tutorial?01:46
Tm_Twolferine: random idea: search in gentoo wiki01:46
ratshellLittle mor detail01:46
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Tm_Twolferine: but help.ubuntu.com is good place too01:46
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Tm_Twolferine: especially community part of it01:46
wolferinehowto alsa?01:47
Tm_Twolferine: yes, good search word ;-)01:47
hitmanWillywolferine, oh yeah, i forgot about the gentoo wiki's. If you want to know how something in nix really works, that's the place.01:47
wolferinek01:47
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wolferinei think this is what I am looking for01:47
wolferinethanks01:47
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shai'm starting to love KDE+BERYL01:48
sha<301:48
hitmanWillysha: great, huh01:48
obvio171how much room does the edgy-feisty upgrader need in /boot?01:48
_4strOsure i love them ^^01:48
Tm_Tobvio171: expect it to double?01:49
Tm_Tobvio171: to say the truth; no idea01:49
obvio171Tm_T: I have a 37mb partition and it complained there wasn't room enough. Then I moved everything out and tried again, it still says it's not enough.01:49
obvio171I really don't wanna have to repartition my HD to upgrade01:49
Tm_Tobvio171: does #ubuntu+1 help? :)01:50
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hitmanWillyobvio171, mine has about 3 gigs01:50
hitmanWillyobvio171, on a 200 gig drive01:51
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ratshellWell I am at #ubuntuhelp if yall need me. These rooms are to monitored in a since. See yall there.01:51
obvio171Tm_T: nice thanks01:51
obvio171hitmanWilly: and how much room does it take?01:51
_4strOdrwxr-xr-x   3 root root 4,0K 2007-04-15 19:48 boot01:52
Tm_T_4strO: eh eh01:52
hitmanWillyobvio171, not sure01:52
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Tm_T"du -sh /boot/"01:52
Tm_Ttells how much there is stuff01:52
hitmanWillyobvio171, honestly, i installed feisty fresh and just used the reccommended layout01:52
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hitmanWillyobvio171, 50 m used01:53
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obvio171hmm01:53
obvio171it mustn't be too easy to repartition right?01:53
hitmanWillyobvio171, not on boot01:54
hitmanWillyit has to start within the first 1024 cylinders01:54
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hitmanWillysorry, be on01:55
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crazy_penguin'night all!02:00
scrubbHey, could someone tell me how to find out if "forcedeth.c" is included in the kubuntu driver set and if so, how to use it?02:00
hitmanWillyscrubb, that's a source code file02:01
scrubbI know.02:02
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hitmanWillyscrubb, maybe in linux-headers or one of the dev packages02:02
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scrubbhmm02:02
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darkohow can i set the cpu frequency table? I'm on a pentium m and the cpu frequency table is apparantly incorrect :-[02:02
darkohelp.....02:03
tricassescrubb: see the contents of the linux-source-`uname -r` package maybe02:03
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pnutbttri cant seem to turn off all the sound effects of kubuntu02:04
Tm_Tpnutbttr: did you look kcontrol -> system -> notifications02:05
Tm_Tthere is lot of notifications you can adjust as you like02:05
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ratshellpnubttr we can help you with that if you need, but where in the channel #ubuntuhelp. So come there if you want to.02:07
hitmanWillypnutbttr, you could always disable kde's sound system02:07
XenThraLhi, I'm having a weird issue where icon names on the desktop become blurred out and move after a while02:08
pnutbttrok, never mind, i just wasnot understanding how k control was working02:08
XenThraLis this a known issue? I didn't really know how to google for it02:08
hitmanWillypnutbttr, it shouldn't affect any other apps02:08
wolferinewhere is my sound dev located (usually)?02:09
hitmanWillywolferine, as in PCI address?02:09
wolferineyes02:09
hitmanWillywolferine, depends on the card02:09
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wolferineNvidia CK80402:10
hitmanWillywolferine, honestly, no idea02:10
wolferinewell dont answer then :P02:10
wolferinehehe02:10
piemanis there any way i can get my real ip address (ie, wan of my router) from the command line?02:12
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wolferineuse www.whatismyip.com02:12
wolferine?02:12
piemanwell i can get my ip from a script run on the net no probs...02:13
piemanbut i want to be able to access it locally really...02:13
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voorhees86have aMsn on apt-get?02:13
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wolferinevoorhees86, thats where I got it02:13
voorhees86i'm not find02:14
piemani have a dynamic ip, so in order to access my computer from uni, i want to write a script to run and just upload my current ip address to a database or something..02:14
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voorhees86how is the name of the packgedt02:14
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wordErrmm...I get this error - "BOGUS LENGTH in write keyboard desc, expected 5840, got 5844" and then x crashes...anyone know what could be wrong?02:14
wolferinevoorhees86, use the ubuntu guide (google it) and it tells you how to add to your repos02:14
wolferineyou probably dont have them all added, so you can get amsn02:14
voorhees86ok02:15
voorhees86thanks , i gonna see02:15
wolferineyeah02:15
wolferineadd to your repos, do an update02:15
wolferinethen search for it02:15
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scrubbhow does one start, quit, and restart the X server?02:16
cskjhey how do i start kdm??02:16
wolferinescrubb, ctrl-alt-backspace02:16
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Sannescrubb: you can search for a package that provides a certain file at packages.ubuntu.com in section "search the contents of packages"02:16
wolferinecskj, you have it installed?02:17
cskji think so02:17
wordcskj: as root /etc/init.d/kdm start02:17
cskjlemme check02:17
wolferinecskj, new install?02:17
ratshellto start kdm from the gnome, ctrl alt f1, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then /etc/init.d/kdm start02:17
cskjno02:17
scrubbsanne, thanks.02:17
scrubbwolferine, thanks.02:17
Sannescrubb: you're welcome02:17
cskjit's not a new install02:17
wolferinecskj, just did an update?02:17
wolferinenp scrubb02:17
cskjsince i installed kubuntu i've neva used it or anything02:17
wolferinecskj, when you login, you can select either Gnome or KDE now02:18
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wordare you in console on kubuntu right now or in the gui? :-/02:18
cskjin the gui02:18
wordthen you are probably already in kdm02:18
wolferinecskj, so you can logout, then look at the menu, you will find it there02:18
cskji have been trying to tweak my login manager02:18
cskjbut none of my changes work02:18
jhutchinspieman: Still around?02:19
cskjlemme log out n try02:19
piemanjhutchines, yes02:19
wolferinecskj, ctrl-alt-backspace is a fast way to log02:19
wolferinehey jhutchins :)02:20
cskjyea02:20
jhutchinsI had a system that did what pieman was looking for, I think there's a script in the diald howto that has an example.02:21
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jhutchinsAh, there you are.02:21
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jhutchinspieman: I ran into a bit of trouble with it, I was uploading the IP to a DEC VAX system with ulimited version retension.02:21
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jhutchinspieman: Every fifteen minutes.02:21
jhutchinsOr was it five?02:22
piemanjhutchins...most of that went right over my head! lol02:22
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Tm_Tratshell: hmm, you're adverting your channel here? sorta stealing "clients"? =)02:22
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cskjhey guys no luck02:23
cskjthe changes haven't occured02:23
clowniusIs anyone here able to help with a kernel compile?02:23
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clowniusIm trying to save my current Feisty install02:23
cskjthe login manager looks no different02:23
clowniuscan only boot live CD02:23
jhutchinspieman: http://tldp.org - lots of good stuff.  It's not in the diald howto after all though, still looking.02:23
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hitmanWillyclownius: ok, are you on the live cd right now?02:26
clowniusIm happy to go through a kernel compile but i needed to boot from live CD and i need the kernel for the install on my hard disk02:26
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clowniusyeah on live CD02:26
hitmanWillyclownius: is your hdd mounted anywhere?02:26
clowniusdoubt it i only just fired up02:26
clowniusso mount it02:27
hitmanWillyclownius: yes, we may not have to compile one02:27
hitmanWillyclownius, do you know how tho chroot?02:27
hitmanWilly*to02:28
clowniusi have the page up trying to do it now02:28
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hitmanWillyclownius: ok, ill talk you through it02:28
cskjok while his prob is being fixed02:29
cskjcan anyone help me with mine02:29
clowniusty02:29
hitmanWillyclownius: first mount your hdd02:29
cskji cannot get the changes i set to my login manager to work02:29
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piemanjhutchins, that tldp.org link looks great for future ref. Don't worry about this thing, I've think i've worked out how i can do it...02:29
cskjthey are applied, but they don't show up and they don't change02:29
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hitmanWillyclownius: next, "sudo chroot <wherever you mounted your hdd>"02:30
clowniusdone02:31
hitmanWillyclownius, now, apt-cache search linux-image02:31
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K-Ryan!svn02:31
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/02:31
clowniusdone02:32
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hitmanWillyclownius, what came up on the search?02:32
clowniusAbout 100 lines02:32
clowniusanything in particular i should look for02:33
BluesKajwhat is an open-source revision control system.... ? As if that makes it any clearer .. :(02:33
hitmanWillyhmmm, are you using edgy or feisty?02:33
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clowniusstarted as edgy is fiesty now02:33
K-RyanHey guys I'm trying to "sudo apt-get install subversion"02:34
hitmanWillyclownius, ok, easy then, sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic02:34
Tm_TK-Ryan: and?02:34
K-RyanI'm coming up with an error message of "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"02:34
K-RyanTips?02:34
clowniusSays i already got it02:34
Tm_TK-Ryan: well, have adept or any related running?02:34
K-RyanNo, but Adept crashed before02:35
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K-RyanMaybe I should try running that big long command that I can't remember02:35
hitmanWillyclownius, ok sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic02:35
K-Ryan!adeptcrash02:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:35
Tm_TK-Ryan: that might explain, do "fuser var/lib/dpkg/"02:35
K-RyanHmm, what was it...02:35
Tm_Twhops02:36
voorhees86the front painel(mic, headfone out) of my laptop dosent work02:36
Tm_TK-Ryan: do "fuser /var/lib/dpkg/"02:36
Tm_TK-Ryan: does return something?02:36
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K-RyanNada02:36
Tm_Thmm02:36
Tm_TK-Ryan: try again with apt-get02:36
clowniusother than this everything else looks ok02:36
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K-RyanSame thing02:36
clowniusYour /etc/kernel-img.conf needs to be updated. Read grub's NEWS.Debian[1] 02:36
clowniusfile and follow its instructions.02:37
clownius 1. /usr/share/doc/grub/NEWS.Debian.gz02:37
clowniusYou shouldn't call /sbin/update-grub. Please call /usr/sbin/update-grub instead!02:37
cskjcan i have some help pleez02:37
K-Ryancskj, let us know what your problem is and we can help.02:37
ubuntuis there a way to load beryl onto kubuntu02:37
Tm_Tclownius: ignore, or do changes explained in that document02:37
K-Ryan!beryl | ubuntu02:37
ubotuubuntu: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:37
voorhees86the front painel(mic, headfone out) of my laptop dosent work, somebody can help me?02:37
cskji cannot get the changes to my login manager to work02:37
hitmanWillyclownius, sudo apt-get update grub02:37
Tm_Tclownius: also, use pastebin02:37
clowniussorry guys02:37
ratshellTO THE ROOM. IF YOU NEED HELP WITH UBUNTU COME TO #ubuntuhelp, we will help you will all your ubuntu questions02:37
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gnomefreaktoo slow Tm_T :)02:38
hitmanWillyTY!!!02:38
K-RyanWhy'd he get a ban? Just curious.02:38
Tm_TK-Ryan: spamming02:38
K-RyanOne message? Or was he doing it before I was here?02:39
hitmanWillyK-Ryan, you weren't here earlier with that guy, were you?02:39
K-RyanGuess not02:39
BluesKajhe's a pita ...yelling and being obnoxious02:39
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K-RyanNo biggie, just curious.02:39
K-RyanOkay, back to my problem then =)02:39
K-RyanSame issue while trying to apt-get it02:39
cskjcan't anyone help me with my login manager problems??02:39
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clowniushmm im not having any luck there but thanks for trying02:40
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clowniusi might just try a fresh compile from source02:40
clowniusi had to do that for new hardware once lol02:40
Tm_TK-Ryan: bah, any chance to relogin?02:40
K-RyanMight as well, brb02:40
K-RyanHelp cskj out in the meantime02:40
Tm_Tcskj: yes?02:40
cskji cannot get any of my changes to the login manager to work02:41
clowniusin that chroot i can compile a kernel for use in it right?02:41
Tm_Tcskj: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm" and it ask if you like to use gdm or kdm02:42
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hitmanWillyclownius, yes you can here's a very helpful website on the subject http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu02:42
cskjok02:42
BluesKajgeez , you can upgrade the kernel wit adept if you want02:42
Tm_TK-Ryan: luck?02:42
K-RyanZip02:42
clowniusty02:42
K-RyanSame problem02:42
Tm_TK-Ryan: ...02:42
K-RyanI have Konversation, Konqueror, and the terminal running02:42
Tm_TK-Ryan: I'm out of ideas, search for howto OR just restart whole system :(02:43
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K-RyanWhat's that big long command to terminate adept after it crashes and you cant get it to run again?02:43
wordErrmm...I get this error - "BOGUS LENGTH in write keyboard desc, expected 5840, got 5844" and then x crashes...anyone know what could be wrong?02:43
hitmanWillyclownius, just remember, the only place you're chrooted is inside that terminal window02:43
TheDebuggerIs there anything for kubuntu to delete history, password, Recently Accessed files etc? ( Like in suse.. )02:44
TheDebugger( All at the same time, same place )02:44
cskjtm t: it did not ask if i would like to use gdm or kdm it just went back to an empty command line02:44
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voorhees86the front painel(mic, headfone out) of my laptop dosent work, somebody can help me?02:45
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cskjTm_T doesn't look like it's working02:51
Tm_Tstrange02:52
Tm_Tcskj: maybe then you only have KDM02:52
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cskjshud i have gdm also??02:52
Daisuke_Idoi thought they were mutually exclusive02:53
Tm_Tcskj: no, but err, what exactly you are trying to do?02:53
cskji am trying ro list all the users at my login screen02:54
Tm_TDaisuke_Ido: you can have both installed, but they do the same job02:54
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cskjwith the pics etc02:54
Daisuke_Idotry to install kdm, it uninstalls gdm (and vice versa)02:54
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Tm_TDaisuke_Ido: doesn't uninstall :p02:54
Tm_Tcskj: well, you need some kdm control stuff, wait02:55
cskjok02:55
Daisuke_Idoah02:55
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Tm_Tcskj: install kcontrol-kdmtheme kdmtheme02:55
cskjok02:56
cskjcould i find that in adept?02:56
Tm_Tcskj: should02:56
cskjor would i have to use apt-get??02:56
cskjohh ok02:56
cskjty02:56
Tm_Tcskj: both works02:56
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cskjjust wondering cus i already have adpet open02:57
Tm_Tcskj: after that, open kcontrol and go to system part and there, disable kdm theme, or select one that shows userlis (no idea which one does)02:57
wolferineanyone have their sound working in VMware?02:57
Tm_Tcskj: without kdm theme, you can set kdm login screen in other part there02:57
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Ace2016Hi all02:58
K-Ryan!quake02:58
ubotuQuake runs natively under Ubuntu - See http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details02:58
K-Ryan!quake302:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about quake3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:58
K-Ryanman...02:58
wolferine!doom02:58
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org02:58
wolferine:)02:58
cskjok thanx Tm_T02:58
hitmanWillyid rocks02:58
hitmanWillyat least they port their stuff02:59
Tm_TEnemy Territory is fun02:59
hitmanWillythat's still in beta, right?02:59
K-RyanDoes anyone want to help me install Quake 3? =)02:59
Ace2016i have a mouse with a ball instead of a scroll wheel, but i can only scroll forward and backwards with it, rolling the ball eft and right does nothing02:59
Ace2016can someone help me fix this02:59
Ace2016its new03:00
hitmanWillyK-Ryan, gogle loki installers03:00
hitmanWilly*google03:00
Ace2016on the bottom it says 8d scroll ball optical mouse03:00
K-Ryanloki?03:00
cskjok installed them03:00
cskjbrb03:00
K-RyanOkay03:00
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hitmanWillythey make and distribute linux game installers03:00
K-RyanAce2016 have you taken the ball out and checked the little spinny things in the mouse to make sure the ball was hitting those?03:00
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Ace2016K-Ryan: no no, when i move it forwards/backwards it scrolls up and down, and when i roll it right/left it scrolls up and down but very fast, i want to change left/right into left and right scrolling03:01
K-RyanOh, so left and right does work.03:02
Ace2016sorry i just realised what the left/right did, i just got the mouse03:02
K-RyanJust the wrong way03:02
Ace2016yea just need to map it somehow03:02
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K-RyanHmm03:02
K-RyanI'll take a look around for you, give me a sec.03:02
carutsuScuse me how do i erase a list of recently used files?03:02
Ace2016K-Ryan: Thanks03:03
Ace2016carutsu: in kcontrol03:03
carutsuAce2016:oh, let me see, thanks03:03
K-RyanHave you tried the mouse in any other OS?03:03
Ace2016carutsu: kcontrol > security and privacy > privacy03:03
Ace2016carutsu: then delete what you want03:04
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Ace2016K-Ryan: i'll go check03:04
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carutsuAce2016: i found it thank you03:04
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cskjhey Tm_T theme manager worked...but the user list and pictures still aren;t coming up03:04
madmikelalala03:05
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RayhaleHello, I wonder are will Beryl work on kubuntu? (sorry, I'm newbie to Linux)03:05
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clowniusIt worked without -14 kernel everything works again :)03:06
clowniusrayhale my experience says no03:07
Rayhalealright thanks Clown.03:07
clowniusi installed the packages but nothing happened03:07
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clowniusbut i may not have configured right or something03:07
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RayhaleI see.. neverless, thank you.03:07
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BluesKajRayhale, beryl depends your graphics card and drivers03:08
K-RyanBeryl does work in Kubuntu03:08
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K-Ryan!beryl | Rayhale03:08
ubotuRayhale: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:08
RayhaleAlright, Thanks Ryan03:08
wolferineanyone have their sound working in VMware?03:09
cskjhey Tm_T u there??03:09
hitmanWillyclownius: away for a minute, everything working?03:09
clowniusall back and perfect again03:10
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clowniuslot less painfull than a kernel compile03:10
hitmanWillyi knew it was that 14 kernel03:10
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clowniusso did i lol but fix it was beyond me03:10
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hitmanWillythe chroot trick has saved me more than once03:11
clowniusits one i shall remember03:11
clowniusI love Live Cd's now03:11
BluesKajhitmanWilly, what chroot trick ?03:11
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hitmanWillyBluesKaj, chrooting to your hdd from a live cd03:12
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BluesKaji see, what's the command , si can recoed it in my list here03:12
BluesKajrecord it03:12
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hitmanWillyBluesKaj, sudo chroot <hdd mount point>03:13
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jodasHello I need help.03:13
BluesKajmountpoint ?03:13
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hitmanWillyBluesKaj, you can even use that to run a 32 bit environment inside a 64 bit os, for flash and stuff03:13
jodasI would like to know how to log on as root.03:13
hitmanWillyBluesKaj, mount the hdd and chroot into it03:14
clowniuswhy do you want to jodas? try sudo instead03:14
Ace2016K-Ryan: xp won't boot, i have problems with it, can't reinstall it now03:14
BluesKajok03:14
jodasI cannot delete thing out of the root/desktop folder.03:14
jodasEven when I use sudo I cannot.03:15
clowniuskubuntu or ubuntu?03:15
clowniusok odd03:15
jodasUbuntu03:15
jodasWell Edubuntu03:15
clowniusi dont have a root/desktop03:15
jodasBut the people in that chat will not help at all.03:15
clowniusno can help03:15
clowniuslogining in as root is generally a very bad idea03:16
jodasWell how do you log in as root?03:16
Ace2016didn't think you can delete the desktop folder03:16
jodasNo the stuff that is inside the folder.03:17
jodasI have 38 MB of stuff that was downloaded there that I do not need anymore.03:17
jodasAnd it will not let me delete it.03:17
BluesKajhitmanWilly, how did  the chroot trick help you ...what was the situation ?03:17
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jodasSo how do I log in as root?03:18
hitmanWillyBluesKaj, clownius had a bad kernel so it wouldn't boot, booted off the live cd chrooted to the hdd, purged the old one, installed the updated on through apt03:18
BluesKajok cool , thx03:19
noxwayxhomehow do i get grub back if i installed windows03:19
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noxwayxhomejodas you dont login as root03:20
Ace2016noxwayxhome: i also wish to know that03:20
Ace2016how do you get grub back if you install windows03:20
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noxwayxhomei found an artical but i cant find where it is now03:20
hitmanWillyjodas, the desktop folder is under ~/.desktop, go there through the command line and delete them using sudo03:20
hitmanWilly!grub03:20
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:20
hitmanWillynoxwayxhome, Ace2016 see above03:21
noxwayxhomehitman thanks03:21
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hitmanWillynp03:22
jodasWrong one.03:22
jodasIt does not work.03:22
jodasSays no such file or directory.03:22
jodasI even tried to sudo it and it still did not work.03:22
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hitmanWilly!desktop03:23
ubotuThe available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.03:23
jodasWrong desktop.03:24
jodasGo under system files and click on root.03:24
jodasThen click on desktop.03:24
jodasNot the first desktop but the one under root.03:24
noxwayxhomejodas do you want to have root power type in "sudo su"03:24
hitmanWillyhmmm, didn't know that worked03:25
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noxwayxhomethis will give you terminal root for as long as the terminal is open03:25
kristjananyone got geforce go6200 here?03:25
jodasCannot move "/root/Deskt...3(3).tar.gz" to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.03:25
jodasThat is what I get.03:25
noxwayxhomebut warning that any programs that you run will be in root03:26
jodasCannot move "/root/Deskt...3(3).tar.gz" to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.03:26
jodasCannot move "/root/Deskt...3(3).tar.gz" to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.03:26
noxwayxhomejodas go into the terminal and type in sudo your file manager03:26
jodasThat is what I get.03:26
jodasOk03:27
jodasTyped in sudo03:27
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N6REJhitmanWilly: I found a bug in the latest kernel update tonight.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15892/03:27
HaSH!iso03:28
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.03:28
noxwayxhomejodas03:28
noxwayxhomeone min03:28
hitmanWillyN6REJ, saw that one too, don't think its really a bug so much as no grub update yet03:29
N6REJhitmanWilly: should I run it manually?03:29
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noxwayxhomejodas type in sudo Konqueror and the try to do what you want then03:29
hitmanWillyN6REJ, back it up and try it out03:29
noxwayxhomea window will open with root power03:29
N6REJhitmanWilly: LOL love it.03:29
jodasSays command not found03:30
terrestresomeone knows how to change to another theme on kubuntu?03:30
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hitmanWillythe konq cmd's all lower03:30
wolferineanyone have their sound working in VMware?03:30
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Ace2016could i just use boot sector virus protection in bios, doesn't taht stop the mbr from being overwritten?03:30
jodasSays the same thig.03:30
BluesKajterrestre, sytem settings/appearance03:30
noxwayxhometerreste your best bet is to use beryl with emereld theme changer03:30
Schuenemannwhich tool can I use the extract the image of a protected CD?03:31
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noxwayxhomejodas i dont know what to tell you sorry man have no idea03:31
BluesKajK9 copy. Schuenemann03:31
jodasI have edubuntu03:31
Schuenemann!k903:31
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:31
jodasI do not really see a difference.03:32
terrestreBluesKaj: ok, im on that menu, but i dont find anything03:32
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Hasta-la-Vista:)03:32
jodasBut the edubuntu chat does not help because no  one in there will talk.03:32
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SchuenemannBluesKaj, works for CDs too?03:32
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BluesKajterrestre, are in beryl or kde ?03:32
terrestreBluesKaj: in kde03:33
pollyojodas: Does edubuntu use gnome?03:33
terrestrei know that is a selly question, but i dont find anything, i tried to install a .kth file, but i dont know were it was installed03:33
ubuntuhola como estan03:33
BluesKajSchuenemann, try soundkonverter for cds03:33
hitmanWillyterrestre, its in kcontrol03:34
Schuenemannugh, I'm already downloading k9copy03:34
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c0ldfr3akhelp03:34
pollyoAnyone try phpgedview?03:34
terrestrehitmanWilly: theres no, kcontrol on kubuntu feisty, at least in katapult, its nothing03:34
SchuenemannBluesKaj, it's not for sound CDs, I want to extract the CD ISO03:34
c0ldfr3aki tried installing ubuntu 6.10 and it says theres a sync error03:34
Schuenemannany CD03:34
hitmanWillyterrestre, try running it through konsole03:34
terrestreand sorry for my english jajaja03:34
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BluesKajacetoneiso ..it's here :http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=4480503:35
pollyoAnyone know what the following error message would be caused by: -24 DB Error: connect failed03:35
hitmanWillypollyo, what were you running?03:35
carlpollyo more info on what you were doing when you got this error would help03:35
pollyoI'm getting it on phpgedview03:36
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hitmanWilly!info phpgedview03:36
ubotuPackage phpgedview does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas03:36
pollyohitmanWilly: I'm running phpgedview it is a genealogy php application03:36
noxwayxhomeanyone know of any good linux distos that will make a killer media server03:36
hitmanWillypollyo, oh, ok03:36
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c0ldfr3akI downloaded Ubuntu 6.10 last night and i burned it to a CD today... when I tried to run the CD it said "sync error with the cd03:36
c0ldfr3ak"03:36
hitmanWillypollyo, maybe a firewall problem?03:36
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carlBad CD? c0ld ? bad ISO maybe?03:37
c0ldfr3akthen something about anci or anpi... acpi maybe... something like that...03:37
pollyohitmanWilly: Its on my apache2 server on my machine.03:37
terrestrehitmanWilly: , ok, its kcontrol on konsole, and now im on themes and style(muy kubuntu its in spanish) I see style, and widget style, but theme, i dont see that03:37
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pollyohitmanWilly: I'm thinking it might be missing a mod for db or something in apache.03:37
c0ldfr3akwhat should i use to burn the CD and what settings?03:37
noxwayxhomec0ld try to burn it at a lower speed i had the same problem a few weeks03:37
hitmanWillyterrestre, apt-get ktheme03:37
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pollyohitmanWilly: I do not know enough about the subject.03:37
shawn34how do i turn off single click in konqueror?03:38
c0ldfr3ak(noxwayxhome) thank you03:38
carl!info amarok03:38
ubotuamarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 14370 kB, installed size 31288 kB03:38
hitmanWillypollyo, unfortunately, neither do i :)03:38
anandanbudoes any one know how to install themes in Kubuntu03:38
noxwayxhomec0ld np man hope it works03:38
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K-Ryananandanbu: Yes03:38
K-RyanGo to system settings>appearance03:39
anandanbuhow do i ,i have downloaded the packages from the kde-look.org03:39
K-RyanGo to that menu, click "Import Scheme"03:39
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K-RyanFind the file, and apply03:39
shawn34how do i turn off single click in konqueror?03:39
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anandanbuok03:40
c0ldfr3ak(noxwayxhome) i can only burn at 48x03:40
anandanbuthen what am i supposed to do03:40
shawn34anyone know?03:40
K-RyanWhat are you stuck at anandanbu?03:41
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BluesKajshawn34, system settings/keyboard and mouse03:41
SchuenemannBluesKaj, are you sure acetoneIso can do it with a protected CD?03:42
shawn34BluesKaj: thank you03:42
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noxwayxhomecold well hmmm03:43
K-RyanHey guys, I just installed a game that uses a .i386 to start the game up, however it pops up with an "open with" menu when I try to run it.03:43
K-RyanTips?03:43
noxwayxhomec0ld hmmm03:43
noxwayxhomewhat program are you using c0ld03:43
K-RyanAnyone?03:45
noxwayxhomewhat game is it03:45
BluesKajSchuenemann, not sure ... i haven't tried that yet ... surely there is one utility that does what you need03:45
K-RyanUrban Terror, mod for quake 303:45
K-Ryanturned standalone03:45
hitmanWillyK-Ryan, try changing the perms to executable03:46
Schuenemannok, I'll try it if I don't find another03:46
K-Ryanperms?03:46
K-RyanNever mind03:46
terrestre!ktheme03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ktheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:46
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hitmanWillyterrestre, sorry, wrong package name, it should be under kcontrol under theme manager03:46
hitmanWillyterrestre, unless it's a kdm theme you want to install03:47
hitmanWillyterrestre, i was thinking of kdmtheme03:47
noxwayxhomedos any one know how i can connected to a windows shared folder03:48
hitmanWillynoxwayxhome, samba03:49
hitmanWilly!samba | noxwayxhome03:49
ubotunoxwayxhome: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:49
noxwayxhomei know that but what is the command line hit man lol03:49
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hitmanWillynoxwayxhome, sorry, i default to newbie mode in here03:49
jttcan anyone tell me how i force apt-get (from the command line not from sources.list) to get  a package from feisty area only03:49
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hitmanWillynoxwayxhome, just mount it as a smbfs03:50
terrestrehttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Thinking+about+blue?content=26392 <----- that one hitmanWilly.. i dont found kdmtheme either, im pretty new of kde03:50
noxwayxhomethank you forgot03:50
gamerguywtf03:50
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noxwayxhomeand no problem hitman i can understand03:50
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gamerguyi can't use bloody tux as my name anymore03:50
hitmanWillynoxwayxhome, cool :)03:50
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hitmanWillygamerguy, someone register it?03:51
terrestreactually i did the right click install theme, to the .kth file, but nothing happend, and i still cant find the theme manager on kcontrol03:51
gamerguyno, i was using it earlier today03:51
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Bloodytuxthere03:51
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dirgedollHello03:51
Bloodytuxbrb03:51
hitmanWillyterrestre, Appearance and Themes -> Theme Manager03:52
dirgedolldo you have to do anything special after you set up a wireless internet card, or can you just use it? Thanks.03:52
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hitmanWillydirgedoll, aside from inputing any network keys, i wouldn't think so03:53
dirgedollok cool03:54
chemicalvampwhere can i go to see a list of updates for feisty?03:54
hitmanWilly!feisty03:54
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)03:54
flaccidchemicalvamp: adept_updater03:54
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, probably the launchpad site03:54
chemicalvampi got a wired connection, trying to get my wireless card to work03:55
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hitmanWillychemicalvamp, does it need a WPA key to connect?03:55
SchuenemannBluesKaj, unfortunately it does not work =/03:56
chemicalvampno03:56
chemicalvampdoesnt even see it03:56
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hitmanWillyahh, one of those03:56
chemicalvamp"no such device" or somehting like that03:56
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hitmanWillydon't really know too much about wireless03:56
chemicalvampworked on edgy PERFECZTLY03:57
terrestrehitmanWilly: , ooooh thanks, here the thing, in kcontrol of konsole, its was a theme manager ... but on system konfiguration on k menu, theres only appereance, desktop, splash, windows, and notifiaation,03:57
bill__k!wireless03:57
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:57
terrestrethanks :)03:57
SchuenemannBluesKaj, someone once told me it was possible extracting the raw data. You know anything about it?03:57
hitmanWillyterrestre, yeah, i use good old kcontrol 90% of the time anyway03:57
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terrestrehitmanWilly: , thanks, i cant find it on katapult, i thaght there was no kcontrol on feisty03:58
chemicalvamphow is !wireless related to a bug in feisty bill__k03:58
BluesKajno Schuenemann...sorry03:58
hitmanWillyterrestre, its hidden, but its still there03:59
bill__kchemicalvamp, sorry, just wanted the link for myself :) it's the easiest way for me to find info for myself too03:59
chemicalvampohh hehe04:00
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hitmanWillychemicalvamp, maybe they didn't compile support for your card in the new kernels04:00
chemicalvampi read that they used an older 'something' for feisty for some reason04:01
chemicalvampolder then edgy's04:01
ranjanprobably alsa04:01
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, maybe there was an bug/exploit in the new 'whatever' that wasn't in the old one04:01
terrestreim used noe my new tab grey themes haha cool04:01
chemicalvampi seen in launchpad that alot of people are having network related issues, so maybe theres an update out now04:02
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, i haven't noticed any network updates coming down the pipe lately, but maybe...04:03
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Bloodytuxback04:03
chemicalvamplast time i updated there wasnt, and i had to run off of a edgy cd and chroot to my feisty install ( along with alot of other things to get the internet to work)04:03
Bloodytuxl04:04
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, had to chroot a guy off the live cd earlier, -14 kernel issues04:04
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shawn34can anyone help me in getting my wifi up?04:05
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hitmanWillythat's 304:06
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excitatorywith beryl/aiglx running, i cannot find the taskbar setting to only show applications from that desktop.04:06
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jtthow can i force edgy installed system to pick up certain feisty packages using apt-get04:06
hitmanWillyexcitatory, i think beryl disables that04:07
hitmanWillyjtt, well, you COULD add a couple of feisty repos to sources.list, but there's no guarantee they would work04:08
excitatoryhitmanWilly, is there any way to change that?  isn't the point of multiple desktops to organize your desktop by not having so many windows in view, including taskbar clutter?04:08
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hitmanWillyexcitatory, it might be under beryl-manager somewhere04:08
jtthitmanWilly: i tired that and they dont i also tried  apt-get install package=blahblah and it cant find the feisty package04:08
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jttblahblah=release number from feisty  packages listing04:09
hitmanWillyjtt, you might have to go to the actual website and download the debs04:09
hitmanWillyjtt, even then, they may not install if they're packaged for feisty04:10
jtthitmanWilly: ok i figured that would be the next step was trying to avoid that because of the dependancys04:10
hitmanWillyjtt, do you have edgy-backports enabled?04:10
jtthitmanWilly: no i will try that04:11
terrestresomeone knows, how i can add programs to katapult? programs like kcontrol?04:11
jtthitmanWilly: thanks04:11
hitmanWillyjtt, the backports repo should still be updated for another year or so04:11
jtthitmanWilly: good that may be my out04:12
hitmanWillyjtt, trying to avoid the upgrade?04:12
hitmanWillyjtt, besides feisty got pushed back so edgy support should last even longer now04:13
jtthitmanWilly: no i am traveling away from home and trying to create index  kde_application_manuals and  htdg package is the problem04:13
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Hasta-la-Vistahow far out?04:13
terrestre!katapult04:13
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.04:13
jtthitmanWilly: so when did they push back feisty today04:13
hitmanWillydon't know, heard this secondhand04:14
hitmanWillya couple of days ago04:14
hitmanWillyso its about slashdot level reliability04:14
hitmanWilly:)04:14
jtthitmanWilly: interesting i saw some info on a big kernel bug though04:14
hitmanWillyjtt: the -14 kernel04:14
hitmanWillyjtt, had to walk a guy through fixing it today04:15
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jtthitmanWilly: yes i never booted it it only do the dailys and help testing group for iso testing  heno  pochu  etc.04:15
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jtthitmanWilly: but i havent been able to test for several days since i am on the road04:15
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noxwayxhome_i have been trying to mount a windows share and it wont work can you see anything wrong with this command line04:16
hitmanWillyjtt, yeah, by the time i got around to updating that day they had already 403'd the site04:16
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jtthitmanWilly: i have seen that 403  what it it04:16
noxwayxhome_sudo mount -t smbfs //192.sfdgsdf/sfgsdf /media/windowsmountpointshare -o username=sfsfgsd,password=sdfgsfd04:16
jtthitmanWilly: what does 403 mean04:16
hitmanWillyjtt, they blocked the site so people wouldn't update to it04:17
jtthitmanWilly: ok 403 as in HTTP got it04:17
hitmanWillynoxwayxhome_, drop the 192.04:17
noxwayxhome_brb04:17
scrubbCould someone tell me if there's some kind of diagnostic tool for ethernet adaptors?04:17
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hitmanWillyscrubb, ifconfig?04:18
jtthitmanWilly: thanks for the info i will go and try backports later04:18
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hitmanWillynp04:18
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scrubbif = interface?04:19
BluesKajSchuenemann, i found one that is very popular and useful, "cdparanoia"04:19
Bloodytuxbbl i'm upgrading kde to 3.5.604:19
peepsalotwhat is the difference between a shell and a console?04:20
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compilerwriterpeepsalot:  a shell interacts with the kernel.  A console interacts with the shell.04:22
SchuenemannBluesKaj, hmmm... I already have it installed... let me try04:22
compilerwriterpeepsalot: if you are talking about using the konsole terminal it will get you a window in which you have an interactive shell to do commandline stuff.04:23
peepsalotcompilerwriter, so I have this Applet in my KDE menu called "Terminal Sessions" and it has a menu which includes(among other things) "Shell" and "Linux Console"04:24
compilerwriterpeepsalot: Did that help, or confuse you.04:24
shawn34anyone have time to help me get my wifi up?04:24
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peepsalotaren't those basically the same?  they both load konsole04:24
compilerwriterpeepsalot:  It, in general, makes little difference which you use.  But in some instances you need to do things from the Linux Console.04:25
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SchuenemannBluesKaj, appearently it's just for audio cds04:26
peepsalotbut doesn't the "Linux Console" run a shell(bash) also04:26
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peepsaloti just don't understand why they are two separate choices04:26
compilerwriterYes it runs a shell, dash, probably.04:26
pacmanCan anyone help me with a couple of devices?  I think I need drivers, but I don't know where I can find them04:26
shawn34i've had it working with ease before i reinstalled with kde, was on gnome now its an issue for some reason04:27
peepsalotin what cases would I need the "Linux Console" over a "Shell"04:27
compilerwriterWell like I said earlier, peepsalot,  It, in general, makes little difference which you use.  But in some instances you need to do things from the Linux Console.04:27
shawn34wifi drivers installed via ndiswrapper utility, and i can see the card via iwconfig04:27
shawn34i just can't bring enable it04:27
shawn34can't enable*04:27
Iwonder|tooshawn34: can you ifconfig  <card> <ip>04:28
compilerwriterpeepsalot:  There is also the fact that my default, because I so choose, interactive shell is zsh.  If I were to choose the Console I would likely get dash.04:28
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compilerwriterpeepsalot:  I was just able to confirm it.  I get two seperate shells when I choose the two different options.04:30
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mikeyany superkaramba users?  wondering where the .themes are kep by default04:31
Desperadosomeone uses latex?04:31
pacmanCan anyone help me with a couple of devices?  I think I need drivers, but I don't know where I can find them04:31
Iwonder|toopacman: what devices?04:32
Desperadowhat devices do you refer?04:32
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compilerwriterSo peepsalot:  It allows for some flexibility on the users part.  Some of us most often work in one shell or another, but we occaisionally need to run a bash shell script.  The choices give us that option.04:32
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pacmanone of them is a webcam, but I don't know the brand...I've had it since before I went to Kubuntu04:32
Iwonder|toopacman: lsusb04:33
pacmanI take that back, it's a Dynex04:33
compilerwriterClear as mud, peepsalot?04:33
pacmanlsub?04:33
pacmanerr lsusb?04:34
peepsalotheh, that helps some thanks compilerwriter04:34
Iwonder|toolsusb in console,taking for granted your webcam is usb interface04:34
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Iwonder|tooit should show device info to help figure out what module is needed04:35
peepsalotcompilerwriter, where do you specify your zsh shell?04:35
BluesKajSchuenemann, does k3B have a plugin to copy protected data ...I'm not sure ..does any one know ?04:35
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SchuenemannBluesKaj, I have realized k3b 1.0 was released but the repositories still have 0.12 as the later version04:36
pacmanwonder...it's not showing up04:36
joooooooehi what package carries kwikdisk?04:36
Iwonder|tooprotected data?04:36
compilerwriterKnowing some history might help you better understand peepsalot.  Back in the day before bash, sh kind of sucked.  No I take that back it swallowed.  So there were shells that were invented like the csh, tcsh, zsh, ksh, etc.  They had neat features that sh didn't have.  Well some of us kept using whatever shell we got comfortable with, when bash came along and added most of those neat features to sh.04:36
Schuenemannprotected cd04:36
Iwonder|toopacman: try google the model number + ubuntu04:37
compilerwriterAh hell peepsalot, I did it so long ago I just don't remember.  Give me a second to think on it.  I may remember in short order.  That or you may find it before I remember.04:37
compilerwriter!shell04:38
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands04:38
joooooooepacman: Trying to ri[ a cd?04:38
peepsalot!console04:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:38
peepsalotheh04:38
mikey!superkarumba04:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about superkarumba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:38
pacmantrying to find out what model webcam I have, so I can get the right driver04:38
joooooooewhat package carries kwikdisk?04:38
Schuenemannjoooooooe, I'm trying to copy a protected cd, yes04:38
joooooooeopen konqueror04:39
joooooooethen go to04:39
joooooooeaudio:/04:39
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joooooooeI've ripped all of my cds from there04:39
joooooooeeven sony infected cds04:39
SchuenemannI don't have that file/folder04:39
_chocoboHey so I am using FreeNX and it works perfectly when i conenct from a local machine but not when i connect from another remote place04:39
Iwonder|tooSchuenemann: k3b doesn't care about copyrights and such like nero04:39
_chocoboDo i need to foward port 22?04:40
SchuenemannIwonder|too, does that mean k3b can do it?04:40
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joooooooewhat package carries kwikdisk, anyone?04:40
Hobbsee!repeat | joooooooe04:40
ubotujoooooooe: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience04:40
compilerwriter!login shell04:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about login shell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:40
Hobbseejoooooooe: probably kdebase04:40
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dirgedoll!patience04:41
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:41
dirgedollheh04:41
hitmanWillyjoooooooe, kdf04:41
hitmanWillyjoooooooe, kdf has kwikdisk04:42
_chocoboAnybody knwo if i need to foward the port04:42
Schuenemannsomeone once told me I could do it copying the raw data04:42
Schuenemannbut I can't remember who was it or what he said04:42
joooooooehmm not showing up04:42
hitmanWillyjoooooooe, edgy?04:42
joooooooepacman: any luck?04:42
joooooooeDaper04:42
hitmanWillyjoooooooe, don't know for that one04:42
hitmanWilly!find | kwikdisk04:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:43
compilerwriterFolks don't we specify our default shell in /etc/password or some such?04:43
joooooooehitmanWilly: thanks anyway04:43
hitmanWilly!kwikdisk04:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwikdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:43
hitmanWilly!search | kwikdisk04:43
ubotuFound: wink, sources.list-#ubuntu-effects, away, forkbomb, editors, keys-#ubuntu-effects, xubuntu-channels, fluxbuntu, xubuntu04:43
joooooooethanks anyway04:44
BluesKajSchuenemann, it could be the cmnd line "cdrdao".. check it out04:44
joooooooeit seems if its not part of kdebase, it was taken out04:44
joooooooebad move04:44
hitmanWillycompilerwriter, for individual users, yes, but /bin/sh always links to system default04:44
compilerwriterThanks hitmanWilly04:45
hitmanWillynp04:45
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BluesKaj!cdrdao04:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdrdao - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:45
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compilerwriterpeepsalot: have you learned how to edit with nano, vi, or emacs, yet?k04:45
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hitmanWillycompilerwriter, you can always del /bin/sh and link whatever you want there, though04:45
joooooooenano is great04:45
peepsalotcompilerwriter, yeah i have used nano for a while, learning a little vim.  don't care to try emacs04:46
joooooooeyou can also use midnight commander to edit04:46
boblenyHey, I have lamp installed on my computer. It works great! However, I have a php file that need to access and save files to the computer. The problem is, it doesn't have the right privlages. How do I allow the php file to save and change files on the computer?04:47
hitmanWillyemacs is a pita, yet extremely powerful04:47
peepsalothad Ubuntu for lil over a year now i think, but just installed kubuntu-desktop a couple days ago.  So i'm not a complete noob, :p04:47
hitmanWillybobleny, run it with sudo04:47
noxwayxhome_smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported when trying to mount windows share04:48
compilerwriterok peepsalot what you need to do if you wish to change your default shell is to edit /etc/passwd.  You will find your login name on a line in that file.04:48
boblenyhitmanWilly, run what, the server?04:48
peepsalotah, ok i see it compilerwriter04:49
hitmanWillybobleny, whatever app is accessing the php file04:49
hitmanWilly*running04:49
boblenyThat would be the server04:49
boblenyHow do I run it as root?04:49
peepsalotcompilerwriter, do you really write compilers?04:49
peepsalotwhat kind?04:49
compilerwriterpeepsalot: It will look like Your Name:gobbledy good: more gobbledy gook: still more gobbledy gook: and so forth: /bin/bash04:49
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hitmanWillybobleny, hmmm, nevermind unless you want to run apache as root04:50
hitmanWillyheh04:50
compilerwriterpeepsalot:  change the /bin/bash AND ONLY THAT PART OF THE LINE  to /pathname of whatever shell you want to use.04:50
boblenyWell, is that the only way to do it?04:50
noxwayxhome_smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported when trying to mount windows share04:50
compilerwriterpeepsalot it has been a long time since I wrote a compiler.04:51
noxwayxhome_what can i do04:51
hitmanWillybobleny, probably not, but server admin ain't exactly my strong suit04:51
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hitmanWillysorry :(04:51
boblenyhitmanWilly, do you think running apache as root every now and then a bad thing?04:52
noxwayxhome_hitman have any ideas04:52
compilerwriterpeepsalot:  For God sake be careful!  If you accidently change the password hash for your account you will be up a creek with a leeky canoe and no paddle.04:52
noxwayxhome_bobleny never run it as root04:52
boblenyhitmanWilly, I don't use apache as an external server. Only locally...04:52
hitmanWillybobleny, well, i don't know much about apache, but that seems to be a Very bad idea04:52
peepsalotheh, ok04:53
peepsalotthx for the help04:53
noxwayxhome_bobleny if it is local then do what ever you want04:53
boblenylol04:53
compilerwriterpeepsalot you will need to sudo nano that file.04:53
boblenyOK, how do I run apache as root?04:53
peepsaloti know04:53
hitmanWillynoxwayxhome, never seen that one before, what version of win are you running?04:54
noxwayxhome_hitmanWilly mount -t smbfs is sending me errers04:54
noxwayxhome_xp04:54
hitmanWillynoxwayxhome, standard ntfs file system?04:54
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noxwayxhome_yes04:54
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noxwayxhome_here is the command  i am using mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword04:55
hitmanWillynoxwayxhome_, file and printer sharing IS enabled on the windows side, yes?04:55
noxwayxhome_fire wall is off04:55
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noxwayxhome_and yes04:56
hitmanWillynoxwayxhome, i don't know, try googling the error, maybe?04:56
noxwayxhome_can i set up a way for the windos system to connect to me04:56
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hitmanWillynoxwayxhome, yeah, it's actually pretty easy in KDE, more or less the same as in win04:57
noxwayxhome_hitmanWilly do you know of a guide to show me how thx for the help04:58
Schuenemanncompilerwriter, did you write sun's jdk?04:58
hitmanWilly!samba04:58
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:58
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hitmanWillynoxwayxhome_, try the above links04:58
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hitmanWillynoxwayxhome_, at least as a starting point04:59
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noxwayxhome_hitmanWilly thx05:02
hitmanWillynp05:02
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Mys_TeriGood evening everyone.  I'm hoping someone can direct me to somewhere online that I can get lessons/tutorials on Kubuntu.  I want to learn to do more than use Adept, Add and Remove Programs and type what others tell me into Terminal.05:04
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hitmanWilly!wiki05:05
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation05:05
hitmanWillyMys_Teri, see above05:05
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Mys_TeriThank you I will look there then.05:05
dr_willisthers a great many web sites with bash tutorials.. and that "Using Bash" book by Orieally is great.05:06
Medici[dawson] , where are you from?05:06
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Mys_Teridr. willis  well I am still new to all of this so I am not even sure what bash is yet.  I got the Ubuntu bible and have looked around the forums for various issues and that has helped.05:07
Dasnipa`the ubuntu bible is hardly biblical05:08
dr_williswatch the bargin bins at the book stores.. :) old Linux books are great.05:08
dr_willisavoide any books with 'for idiots/dummies' in the title.05:08
Schuenemanngeneral linux books are horrible05:08
dr_willisavoide the ones with lots of pictures also.05:08
Schuenemannyou end up doing nothing with them05:09
Dasnipa`Schuenemann, or you learn the basic stuff that these books cover and have no use for them because the references become too basic05:09
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Mys_TeriDasnipa:  Well it has helped me, almost get my pocket pc sync'd.  I'm going to find a linux for Pocket PC's though and play with an old one.05:10
hitmanWillyheh, im in #windows right now, preaching to the heathen :)05:10
Schuenemannhttp://www.linux-books.us/05:10
noxwayxhome_hitmanWilly it was not installed smbclient was but no smbf05:11
noxwayxhome_lol05:12
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Mys_TeriI've been preaching to my friends, most think I'm weird because I want to become Windows free.05:12
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hitmanWillynoxwayxhome_, problem solved :)05:12
hitmanWillyfrom the #windows channel:05:13
hitmanWilly<LordBacon> how can one linux outperform another?05:13
hitmanWilly:)05:13
dr_williskernel optmizations.05:13
abortdwhats a good program in linux for burning iso and bin images05:14
dr_willisor depends if you are sing the therm 'linux' to refer to a 'disrto' :) or a 'kernel'05:14
noxwayxhome_hitmanWilly i feel like a noob05:14
noxwayxhome_lol05:14
dr_willisk3b abortd  is THE kde app to use for that. :)05:14
abortdhow abou gnome :05:14
abortd:)05:14
hitmanWillyand apparently EVERY distro is compiled completely from source on the user end05:14
hitmanWillyignorance is sad :(05:15
dr_willishitmanWilly,  i see more and more of it in here lately also.. :(05:15
dr_willisand lazyness05:15
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hitmanWillywell, i can only take so much, that's enough #windows05:23
shawn34how can i get the 'drop down' konsole window by pressing the ~ key to work?05:23
shawn34by the way people, i have my wifi working lol ;p05:23
shawn34finally05:23
dr_willisshawn34,  thats that yakuake program i thought.05:23
hitmanWillyshawn34, install yakuake05:24
shawn34cool05:24
shawn34thanks05:24
hitmanWillyshawn34, and its f12, not ~05:24
hitmanWillyby the way, it rocks05:24
dr_willisi hate it :) lol05:24
shawn34dr_willis: y?05:24
dr_willisi alwyas got several konsoles open anyway05:24
hitmanWillyto each his own, i guess05:24
dr_willisso no need for one to pop down05:24
hitmanWillyi just like being able to jump to the CLI with one button05:25
boblenyhitmanWilly, how can I give apache full privliges to "/home/bob/Web Devolpment/Server/auto_saver/"?05:25
hitmanWillybobleny, change the group owner of those directories to www or web or something like that05:28
boblenyUh, what?05:28
hitmanWillybobleny, or just make your normal user account the owner with chown05:29
shawn34hitmanWilly: i love it05:29
shawn34too cool05:29
jttbobleny: chown -R www-data www-data *05:29
shawn34easy access lol ;p05:29
hitmanWillybobleny, that's what i was looking for05:29
jttbobleny: sorry  chown -R www-data:www-data *05:29
joooooooegoogle must think kubuntu is merging with mepis,05:30
hitmanWillyhitmanWilly, i think i lost IQ points in the #windows channel05:30
hitmanWilly:)05:30
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boblenysorry  chown -R www-data:www-data * with or with out the astrick?05:31
jttbobleny: with the asterisk  that says  Every File05:31
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Hasta-la-Vistajoooooooe: say what??05:32
boblenyOh05:32
jttbobleny: make sure your are where you want to be before executing that with suso05:32
jttsuso=sudo sudo05:32
jttnot suso  sudo05:32
boblenyjtt, ok I'll try that.05:33
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joooooooeHasta-la-Vista: when I google for kdf for kubuntu, I get mepis stuff05:34
scrubbCould someone please help me get my network adaptor working?05:34
joooooooekool nick by the way05:34
shawn34wow, im too used to firefox. i keep holding ctrl when i hit enter to auto add the www and .com05:34
Hasta-la-Vistalol, thx05:34
shawn34frustrating05:34
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joooooooescrubb:  still no luck?05:35
scrubbNope.05:35
scrubbI can't even use ifconfig to bring it up.05:35
joooooooedamn05:35
scrubbit says "cannot assign the requested addressQ05:35
Hasta-la-VistaI tried mepis todat via vmware...05:35
scrubber " not Q05:35
scrubbIt's like I can't talk to eth0 even though it shows up.05:35
joooooooethis is BQ I'm assimilating another machine05:35
Hasta-la-Vistaall the media stuff worked out of box, kinda impressed; but that is just built into it straight out05:36
scrubbI need help diagnosing the problem.05:36
scrubbBut since I can't get to the internet while in linux, this is getting really frustrating.05:36
joooooooeopen a root terminal05:36
shawn34scrubb: wifi or patch?05:36
scrubbpatch05:36
scrubbHow does one open a root terminal?  su?05:36
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shawn34don't do that05:37
shawn34just use sudo05:37
scrubbBut you have to type that for each command right?05:37
shawn34not really05:38
shawn34once you use it in a terminal session05:38
Mys_TeriSo will a general linux getting started tutorial help or do more harm than good?05:38
shawn34it shouldn't ask for the pass again05:38
scrubboh ok05:38
shawn34still use sudo though05:38
dr_willisMys_Teri,  read, read, and read more.. :) slowly it all builds up and you figure it out.05:38
scrubbanyway, how do I go about figuring out what's wrong?05:39
dr_willisMys_Teri,  read a few starter guides. then hit the hard core stuff you are interested in.05:39
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shawn34Mys_Teri: i just dove in lol ;p im fine05:39
Mys_Teridr_willis I understand that I'm just wondering when I spend money on things if I should go for Kubuntu/Ubuntu specific or if general Linux is better?05:40
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shawn34that is "general linux" lol05:41
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shawn34unless you don't want gui lol05:41
dr_willisMys_Teri,  plenty of starter guides on the net for free.05:41
scrubb2000shawn?05:41
Mys_TeriShawn: That's what I've been doing with much help from reading the forums etc.  I want to learn to write my own programs at some point.  I'd also like to know why doing the things that I found in forums helped.05:42
Mys_TeriI've always had a problem with wanting to know why something worked.05:43
dr_willisi took apart a dead hard drive the other day. :)05:44
shawn34shit05:44
dr_willislots of neat bits in there.05:44
shawn34dr_willis: you running firefox or konqueror05:44
hitmanWillyive been known to void a few warranties in my time :)05:44
dr_willisshawn34,  firefox mainly05:44
shawn34i had firefox on kde and the gui looked horrible05:45
shawn34whats with that05:45
hitmanWillyMys_Teri, if you want just general linux info, the gentoo wiki is a great place to start05:45
Mys_TeriMy husband has told me to please not to try to fix my kitchen appliances unless there is no other hope.05:45
Mys_TerihitmanWilly:  I'll bookmark it.05:46
scrubb2000Shawn34, can you help or should I ask someone else?05:46
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hitmanWillyMys_Teri, also, o'reily makes a lot of great books, "linux in a nutshell" being my favorite05:46
shawn34im not the greatest when it comes to network config in linux05:47
shawn34im learning too lol05:47
dr_willisYea.. anything By Oreially in the bargin bins gets grabbed up by me. :)05:47
hitmanWillyMys_Teri, just be warned that ubuntu does a lot of stuff in non-standard ways05:47
scrubb2000oh05:47
shawn34sry05:47
scrubb2000hmm...05:47
shawn34scrubb2000: i've never had a problem patched in05:47
shawn34even if i fresh install with no net connection, then boot up patched in it works automatically05:48
shawn34so i never really had to trouble shoot it05:48
kristjanshawn34: install gnome-themes and choose in kcontrol under "gtk applications" a theme other than kde's05:48
joooooooeok kdeutil,  is tthe package that carries kwikdisk, does ku have it?05:48
shawn34k05:48
hitmanWillyMys_Teri, actually, the way i learn a lot of things is i'll see a command somewhere that i don't recoignize, and i'll look up exactly WHY it works05:48
shawn34kristjan: thanks05:48
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Mys_TerihitmanWilly: What is o'reillys full name please?05:49
hitmanWillyMys_Teri, O'Reily books05:49
hitmanWillyMys_Teri, it's a publishing company05:49
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shawn34scrubb2000: how old is your pc05:50
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B4Ci m using kubunu 6.0605:50
hitmanWillyMys_Teri, its ok, it happens to the best of us05:50
B4Ci vcant dial through kppp05:50
scrubb2000brand spankin new.05:52
scrubb2000Which might be the problem?05:52
scrubb2000It's an nForce 680i chipset05:52
purpleposeidonSomehow, I got the menus to be on the top of the screen, but now I cant figure out how to get them back inside their windows....how do I do that?05:52
B4Cwhen i dial, the pppd crashes05:52
scrubb2000the network adaptors are marvell, and I seem to remember linux having problems with those before, but I have no idea where that's at now.05:52
dr_willisheh.. its a setting.. somewhere purpleposeidon  - a check box - i forget where however.05:53
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, asus motherboard?05:53
purpleposeidondr_willis: yeah, me too :b05:53
scrubb2000yes05:53
Mys_TeriOkay thanks for all the info.  Got to run now.  Have a great evening everyone.05:53
orient2000news magazine for kubuntu first edition http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org05:54
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, i have a marvell yukon ethernet adapter on mine, what exactly is the issue?05:54
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scrubb2000linux sees eth0 and eth1, but I can't seem to get them working.05:57
scrubb2000dhcp fails, ifconfig eth0:0 up fails05:57
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spitwise1dhclient command fails?05:58
scrubb2000yup05:58
scrubb2000it tries a bunch of times then says it got no response.05:58
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, are you running through a router?05:58
scrubb2000yes05:58
cskjhey when i select the numlock on kde startup it doesn't work05:58
scrubb2000the router is the dhcp server05:58
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, it's configured for DHCP, right?05:59
spitwise1make sure its not a bad cable05:59
spitwise1that happened to me just today -- i had to recrimp05:59
spitwise1after rebooting modem, router, blah06:00
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boblenyHey, what would this command do? chmod g+t auto_saver06:00
scrubb2000it's working fine right now in windows.06:00
spitwise1got all the right modules for your card?06:01
noxwayxhome_anyone know of a good distro for a media server would be06:02
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dr_willisknoppmyth can do that :)06:02
hitmanWillyspitwise1, if it's a marvell yukon, kubuntu comes with 'em06:02
shawn34scrubb2000: you have good link lights?06:02
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angasule!googleearth06:02
scrubb2000yes and yes06:03
spitwise1heh06:03
spitwise1hmm06:03
scrubb2000how do I check which modules I have/need?06:03
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boblenyHey, would this command, "chmod g+t auto_saver" give all subfolders in "auto_saver" the same permissions?06:04
dr_willisbobbyd__,  nope.06:04
scrubb2000I have a module from nvidia called forcedeth.c, but I have no idea how to check for/install it.06:04
dr_willisyoy may want to use the -R option06:04
dr_willis-R = recursive06:04
thevanyone know why the spell check might not be working in new Open Office docs, but works in previous docs?06:04
scrubb2000I'm still fairly new to linux, but I'm not afraid of command lines or editing config files.06:05
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spitwise1bobleny: you'll need to use the recursive option i beleive06:05
boblenydr_willis, was that aimed twords me?06:05
dr_willissad to say that some of the nvidia chipsets have ussies.06:05
angasule!ubotu06:06
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:06
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boblenyCould you tell me how to do that?06:06
dr_willisbobbyd__,  yep. you may want to use the -R for recursive to do all the things.. BUT that would also do the dirs and files.. Hmm06:06
shawn34scrubb2000: you can try in #ubuntu cause your issue isn't kde/gnome related06:06
spitwise1type : man chmod06:06
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shawn34anyone use the 'moodbar' plugin for amarok?06:07
hitmanWillyscrubb: try this : modprobe -l | grep marvell06:07
hitmanWillyscrubb2000: that'll let you know if it's loading the modules06:09
spitwise1or lsmod | grep marvell to list whats loaded06:09
spitwise1modprobe loads them no?06:09
hitmanWillythat too :)06:09
spitwise1;)06:09
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scrubb2000Will the module have marvell in it somewhere?  What if it's a generic driver?06:10
WillLuongoHello, can anyone help me install the Java runtime environment from the console? When I try using adept I can't get it to get through the EULA06:10
spitwise1what does lspci command tell you the card is exactly?06:12
spitwise1and how did you install kubuntu in the first place?06:12
spitwise1google is telling me you may need the sky2 module06:14
scrubb2000spitwise1, the network adaptors are onboard the mobo06:14
scrubb2000I used a liveDVD to install06:14
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, they still show up on lspci06:15
spitwise1scrubb2000: read this forum: http://www.sysresccd.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3286&sid=313d7e93cee097574e70f22492b1a25806:15
scrubb2000Oh really?  Is that for legacy reasons or something?06:15
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, they're still on the bus, just not the plugin slots06:15
scrubb2000ah ha06:16
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, actually, on this chipset it puts the net adapter on the pci-e bus06:16
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scrubb2000hmm...06:17
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, just a thought, try swapping ports on the back, i had to do that on slack for some reason06:18
scrubb2000I also just noticed that the manual calls them "NV gigabit LAN controller"06:18
hitmanWillylsmod06:19
hitmanWillycrap06:19
spitwise1scrubb2000: lsmod | grep sk98lin06:20
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spitwise1is _that_ loaded?06:21
compilerwriterschuenemann:  I didn't right sun's jdk, but know someone who might have had a hand in it.06:21
scrubb2000I'll have to reboot to find out.  What if it turns out it's not?06:21
compilerwriters/right/write06:21
spitwise1modprobe that sucker06:21
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hitmanWillyscrubb2000, also, try modprobing forcedeth06:22
spitwise1pastebin your lsmod06:22
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spitwise1er nevermind06:23
hitmanWillyspitwise1, he can't, he's dual boot w/ no net on linux side06:23
spitwise1heheh06:23
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scrubb2000I can pastebin anything, but you gotta request it ahead of time. ;)06:23
scrubb2000Which reminds me...06:24
spitwise1well grab a pen .. ?06:24
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hitmanWillyspitwise1, hold on, my chipset's pretty similar to his, i'll paste mine for comparison06:24
kristjanhow do I see MTU used (networking)06:24
scrubb2000I have my windows partition set to a mount point, but it shows up as empty in konqueror06:24
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scrubb2000Any ideas why, and how to fix it?06:26
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hitmanWillyscrubb2000, ok, here's my lsmod, but im running feisty so it might not be exactly the same http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15903/06:27
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scrubb2000hitmanwilly, I see forcedeth in there.06:28
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, try modprobing it06:29
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hitmanWillyscrubb2000, ie sudo modprobe forcedeth06:29
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, if it's installed, that'll load it06:30
scrubb2000will do.06:30
scrubb2000Now, how do I get the files in my windows partition to be visible in konqueor?06:30
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, show hidden?06:31
scrubb2000I can mount the drive no problem, but it's empty when I open it up.  It's FAT32.06:31
scrubb2000Didn't know it would hide the files by default.06:31
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scrubb2000Is that under the menu bar somewhere?06:31
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, try an explicit mount i.e. mount -t vfat06:31
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hitmanWillyscrubb2000, somewhere06:32
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scrubb2000explicit command won't break KDE somehow, will it?06:32
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, i use krusader or the konsole mostly06:32
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, not that one, no06:32
scrubb2000ok.06:32
scrubb2000Any outputs you guys want me to record?06:32
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hitmanWillyscrubb2000, any error msgs and the output of any modprobes06:33
scrubb2000k.  I use > to send it to a file right?  My memory's a bit rusty.06:33
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beauwould anyone know why when i try an open adept i get "su returned with an error"?06:33
spitwise1mount -t vfat /dev/hda# /mount/point06:34
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, yeah, that should do it06:34
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scrubb2000OK.  I'll be back in a little while.  Thanks for the help folks.06:34
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WillLuongoSomething went very wrong with my display settings. Can anyone help me get them back?06:35
spitwise1which display settings?06:36
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WillLuongoWell, I was trying to run Doom 2 in Wine, when it crashed, and changed my resolution. I was putting it back to normal when the display crashed completely (fuzzy lines in middle of blank screen) When I reboot and login, I don't see my desktop manager or anything, just the background. So I logged in in failsafe mode and started my IRC client via Konsole06:37
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spitwise1i would try launching kcontrol from konsole and see if you can fiddle with something there06:38
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abortdthere a program for linux that lets me backup dvds and cds?06:39
spitwise1k3b06:39
hitmanWillyabortd, k9copy06:39
abortdwhat about gnome :)06:39
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spitwise1gnomebaker?06:40
hitmanWillyabortd: not really that familiar w/ gnome06:40
abortddang06:40
boblenyI have a folder that has permissions like this: "drwxrwsr-x 9 bob www-data". When I make a subdirectory in that folder, I would like it to automaticly take on it's parents permissions. How do I do that?06:40
spitwise1me neither i just searched it ;)06:41
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premier_whats the status of 64bit on linux, esp kubuntu and debian?  I'm going to get an AMD64 computer this summer, and I'm going to install kubuntu and something else, prolly debian06:41
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hitmanWillyapt-cache search "f the riaa" :)06:41
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spitwise1hehhe06:41
spitwise1WillLuongo: luck?06:42
WillLuongoX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16606:42
WillLuongo  Major opcode:  14406:42
WillLuongo  Minor opcode:  306:42
WillLuongo  Resource id:  0x006:42
WillLuongoFailed to open device06:42
WillLuongoX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16606:42
WillLuongo  Major opcode:  14406:42
WillLuongo  Minor opcode:  306:42
WillLuongo  Resource id:  0x006:42
WillLuongoFailed to open device06:42
hitmanWilly!paste | WillLuongo06:42
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spitwise1alllrighty then06:43
hitmanWillyo...k...06:44
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boblenyNo ideas?06:44
_chocoboHey how do u change the pass of a usr account through terminal?06:45
korrxpasswd06:45
spitwise1passwd username06:45
korrx! man passwd06:45
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boblenyI take it thats a no?06:46
hitmanWillykorrx, man works better in konsole :)06:46
boblenyGood Point06:46
korrxhitmanWilly sure06:47
spitwise1bobleny:06:47
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spitwise1you said before g+t .. you want everyone to have permissions recursively?06:48
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Andre_hello fellas06:48
c1|freakywhats the meaning of fellas?06:48
spitwise1dudes06:48
boblenyI would ignore the g+t06:49
Andre_has anyone ever encountered a problem where all your icons and task bar etc disappear from your desktop?06:49
korrx_chocobo : ok with passwd ?06:49
c1|freakyand why do english artists always tell about "dogs" in their songs like "this goes to all my dogs in the clubs"?  or smth. like that06:49
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spitwise1is that a yes bobleny ?06:49
boblenyThis is my new question: I have a folder that has permissions like this: "drwxrwsr-x 9 bob www-data". When I make a subdirectory in that folder, I would like it to automaticly take on it's parents permissions. How do I do that?06:49
shawn34Andre_: ctrl-alt-backspace06:49
c1|freakyAndre_: me never06:49
Andre_tried restarting the session already06:50
hitmanWillybobleny, it should iirc06:50
_chocoboso06:50
_chocobowhats the command06:50
_chocobofor password06:50
korrxAndre_ : maybe something wrong in your .kde files too I guess06:50
hitmanWilly_chocobo, passwd06:50
_chocobojust that06:50
_chocobo?06:50
boblenyhitmanWilly, what is iirc?06:50
korrx_chocobo : passwd <user>06:50
hitmanWilly_chocobo, actually passwd <username>06:50
spitwise1if i recall correctly me too06:50
hitmanWillybobleny, If I Remember Correctly06:51
Andre_sigh06:51
Andre_ok06:51
hitmanWillybobleny, irc shorthand06:51
Andre_how do u fix?06:51
boblenyhitmanWilly, Ok, how does that help? lol06:51
c1|freakybobleny: umm, that's not possible afaik using console commands. u can set a umask but that would count for all files you create as that user06:51
Andre_hello?06:52
spitwise1a dir should take on its parents automatiically if created after that parent06:52
_chocoboAnybody know how my friend made my deskotp black, executed xaos and all that stuff?06:52
_chocobohow do i fix06:52
_chocobomy desktop from bein black06:52
korrxAndre_ pastebin ls -R ~/.kde06:52
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c1|freaky_chocobo: rightclick on the desktop and use configure desktop or something like that06:53
c1|freakyand then u can change the background06:53
_chocobonah icons06:53
_chocoboare gone06:53
_chocoboits just black06:53
_chocobohe said he sued06:53
_chocobokciker06:53
_chocoboand kdesktop06:53
_chocoboor something06:53
c1|freakyhave u tried to relogin?06:53
boblenyc1|freaky, what is a umask?06:54
hitmanWilly_chocobo, right click cmds should still work06:54
_chocoboright click what/06:54
hitmanWilly_chocobo, anywhere on the desktop06:54
c1|freakyumask is a mask with which new files are created.06:54
_chocobonope doesn't bring up any menu06:54
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hitmanWilly_chocobo, try alt-f206:55
_chocobonope06:55
_chocoboi still ahve terminal open though06:55
spitwise1bobleny: dunno if this helps, but chmod -R 777 /blah/dittyblah will make that dir and everything under it world-readable/writable/executable06:55
hitmanWilly_chocobo, kcontrol in term will bring up settings menu06:55
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boblenyspitwise1, I don't want to do that though06:56
_chocoboi tried k control but nothing happened06:56
_chocobokcontrol*06:56
hitmanWilly_chocobo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kde-base maybe?06:57
spitwise1are you in X even?06:57
spitwise1or just console06:57
vinces1979_chocobo: log-out and check that session is KDE, not failsafe06:57
hitmanWillyeven if it was failsafe, it should still bring up kcontrol06:58
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_chocoboi just typed in06:58
_chocobokicker06:58
_chocoboand kdesktop06:58
_chocoboand it was good06:58
_chocobo!06:58
hitmanWillyok, he killed those apps06:59
spitwise1bobleny: you dealing with symbolic links?07:00
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shawn34can you change the default login theme?07:01
korrxhitmanWilly : an idea why he killed those apps for _chocobo ?07:01
hitmanWillyshawn34, yup07:01
hitmanWillykorrx, fscking with him?07:01
shawn34ahh i found it07:01
shawn34in advanced07:01
shawn34lol07:01
korrxhitmanWilly : no. Thirst of knowledge07:02
hitmanWillykorrx, true, he now has a slightly better understanding of how kde works07:02
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korrx;)07:03
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jbrouhard98anyone tell me why qparted won't let me resize a NTFS volume on my laptop (i'm currently on it using the liveCD) so I can dual boot my laptop ??07:06
jbrouhard98it keeps saying "unable to read NTFS partition: Operation Not Permitted" or some such thing.07:06
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PsiuyoWhat's the best way to connect to a pptp vpn with kubuntu?  network-manager-pptp wants to install a bunch of gnome stuff so I figure there must be a better way...07:06
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jttjbrouhard98: seems like i read that qparted was not supporting NTFS until a later date07:08
jttcould be incorrect though07:08
jbrouhard98damn.07:09
hitmanWilly!ntfs07:09
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jbrouhard98I remember being able to do this once upon a time07:09
jbrouhard98just can't remember if I used Kubuntu or a regular ubuntu disc :/07:09
jttthanks hitman i was just about to do that07:09
jttjbrouhard98:  ubuntu/kubuntu shouldnt matter qparted is below the desktop interfce07:10
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jttsince i run windows under vmware i dont run into that problem07:10
hitmanWillyjtt, regular ubuntu comes with gparted on the cd, i think07:11
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scrubb2000OK, I'm back.07:12
jtthitmanWilly: yes it would being gnome based07:12
scrubb2000!pastebin07:12
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hitmanWillyscrubb2000, any luck?07:12
scrubb2000hitmanwilly,Forcedeth seems to be present, but I dunno.07:13
Daisuke_Idoshort answer, ntfs is a closed fs, and so linux tools do not, to my knowledge, have the ability to change ntfs partitions (resize, etc)07:13
scrubb2000I dumped the output from modprobe -l and -c, lsmod, dhclient, and ifconfig07:13
Andre_hello07:13
scrubb2000which ones do you want to see. :P07:13
scrubb2000er ?07:13
Andre_that command korrx07:14
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hitmanWillyscrubb2000, all of em :)07:14
scrubb2000k07:14
scrubb2000gimme a minute07:14
hitmanWillyk07:14
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scrubb2000here's ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15910/07:16
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scrubb2000dhclient and ifconfig eth0:0 up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15911/07:16
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scrubb2000lsmod: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15912/07:17
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scrubb2000I think I flooded the pastebin...lol07:18
scrubb2000modprobe -l: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15913/07:18
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[pyro] hi guys07:19
scrubb2000and modprobe -c: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15914/07:19
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scrubb2000happy reading.  I'm going to go make lunch for tomorrow.  brb.07:19
jza873hello every one07:19
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jza873question in k3b it wont let me burn mp3 cd's by default says i need a MAD mp3 decoder how do i get this to work07:20
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jza873not mp3 cd's  but audio cd's brom mp3 format07:21
jza873*from07:21
jza873any ideas?07:21
mackymanmaybe07:21
mackymanI chall check the repos07:21
[pyro] does anyone know why after installing Nvidia drivers an X login wont appear unless i press CTRL ALT F7 ?07:22
[pyro] i just get a txt login on term 107:22
jza873ctrl + alt + f7 is x all the others are terminals07:22
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mackymanjza873: If you type: sudo apt-get install libmad007:23
mackymanWhat is the output?07:23
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jza873trying it now thanks07:23
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mackymanDoes it install the mad lib or do you already have it?07:23
cskjguys i have a big problem07:23
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cskjall the panels on my desktop have disappeared07:23
[pyro] jza873 Yeah i know, i want the x login to display on boot, but i get a txt login. I have to press CTRL ALT and F7 to get the login screen. Its not automatic like it used to be before i installed Nvidia drivers.07:23
mackyman[pyro] : Was it only after installing nvidia drivers?07:24
jza873jza873@jza873-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install libmad007:24
jza873Reading package lists... Done07:24
jza873Building dependency tree07:24
jza873Reading state information... Done07:24
jza873libmad0 is already the newest version.07:24
jza8730 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.07:24
hitmanWillycskj, what were you doing when this happened?07:24
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cskjchanging my login theme07:24
[pyro] mackyman: yep. The nvidia drivers seem to work ok. when i switch to term 7 i get the X login and i can log in ok07:24
[pyro] mackyman: the system is just not booting to the X login.07:25
hitmanWillycskj, can you change it back?07:25
[pyro] i put nvidia into /etc/modules hoping to load it before x tries to, but still no luck.07:25
mackyman[pyro] : have you checked if kdm is running?07:25
cskjnope07:25
cskji cannot access settings because i cannot access my panels07:25
[pyro] mackyman: yes kdm is running07:26
mackymanStrange.. Kdm shuld start X07:26
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hitmanWillycskj, alt-f2 run kdesktop && kicker07:26
[pyro] mackyman: i just restarted kdm and i get the login screen up again07:26
mackymanAs it shuld be then07:27
purpleposeidoncontrary to fixing my menu-bar problem, I have made it worst. The menus are now centered.07:27
[pyro] mackyman yeah it all seems to work ok, just not booting up to the x login. Im wondering if i need to specify kdm to load a little bit later in the boot sequence?07:27
mackyman[pyro] : Well, that you have to ask someone else, that's over my liuge. But I guess you have to check so that kdm is started after X07:28
[pyro] hmm ok07:28
mackymanBut I don't understand how Nvidia drivers shuld change the boot sequesens.... =/07:28
[pyro] mackyman: thanks for your help :)07:28
jza873nope it still wont let be burn audio cd's from mp3 says i need the library07:28
Andre_how do u rename a foldr using konsole07:28
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mackyman[pyro] : np07:28
[pyro] mackyman yeah its got me miffed too. ive been using linux for the past 10 years07:29
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, u back?07:29
jza873damn i been using it for like a week07:29
mackymanAndre_: mv <folder> <newName>07:29
jza873so any more suggestions07:29
jttcskj: perhaps you can  CNTL + ALT + F1  and  mv ~/.kde  to  ~/.kde.orig , pkill -9 kdm and  restart kdm and you should get new  .kde dir under home07:29
[pyro] and ive never seen this kind of thing before. the only thing i can think of is x is not loading the driver properly, the system thinks there is no x so it defaults to txt login. then when i press CTRL ALT F7 it switch's to x and loads up the login screen. Its like it continues to load X once i switch to term 707:30
jttand your old screen back07:30
Andre_grazi07:30
mackymanjza873: hehe07:30
mackymanEasier than I saw before07:30
jza873ok07:30
jza873so...07:30
mackymansudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp307:30
jza873hay im learning07:30
mackymanWe all are07:31
jttpyro: X is running other wise you would not have login screen on F707:31
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jza873mackyman damn your good07:31
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mackyman=)07:32
SubOneif i run a shell script like "../../script" is there a way for the script to know the relative path from where the script is located to where the script was run (pwd)?07:32
jza873is ther a way to view repo's like look at what they have to offer07:32
mackymanhave you tried Adept jza873?07:32
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jttjza873: packages.ubuntu.org07:33
jza873yea i use adept07:33
jza873but that dont show everything07:33
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mackymanAdept shuld show everything07:33
jza873like when i installed afterstep and icewm and ion307:33
mackyman...07:33
jza873it dosnt show eveything07:33
mackymanStrange... It shuld07:34
hitmanWillythere's a lot of libs and other stuff that don't show up under adept07:34
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premier_is there as simple way to create encrypted folders in ubuntu/linux?07:34
jza873i had to use apt-get to get ion307:34
hitmanWillyi generally use synaptic07:34
hitmanWillyor apt07:34
jza873synaptic..?07:35
purpleposeidonpremier_: depends on your definition of simple07:35
jza873another package manager?07:35
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hitmanWillysynaptic is just a gui frontend for apt07:35
Marthythere is synaptic or adept07:35
Marthyboth frontends for apt07:35
jza873ok07:35
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purpleposeidonpremier_: there's a way to mount a file wiht some encrypted-loopback mush-push, but that's all I can tell you about it07:35
premier_purpleposeidon: what are the most popular ways?  Do any provide guis?07:35
mackymanI use adept for most part, and apt when it don't seems enough or rumbling trough guides. But I have never found a likening to synaptics07:35
jza873one better then the other?07:35
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jza873ohh ok07:36
Marthythey are about the same07:36
cskjhey guys i've renamed my kde folder...n still no panels07:36
Marthyi think, its preference i guess07:36
cskji've gotten default settings but still no panels07:36
jza873i like adept nit i cant find everything07:36
hitmanWillyadept is easier, synaptic is more powerful07:36
mackymanTrue, true07:36
jza873moe powerful as how07:36
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hitmanWillyjza873, shows up individual packages07:37
Marthyi liked the search in adept better, but thats me07:37
jttcskj: panels you mean the icons etc along the bottom of the screen07:37
Marthythey both can search07:37
cskjyepp07:37
jza873ya know i was sick of windows thats y i got a mac then i wanted to try linux but i was worried i wouldnt get any help but you guys are great so heplful thanks07:38
cskjis there a way to manually launch both my panels and kicker07:38
jttcskj: put your mouse in the area where the panel use to be and right mouse click, menu appear?07:38
cskjnope07:38
mackymanjza873: That's why this channel exist07:39
jttcskj: move your mouse to all 4 corners of screen and repeat right moust click07:39
jza873i almost installed slackware instead of kubuntu07:39
jza873that probily would have been hell07:39
cskjnope07:39
cskjstill doesn't work07:39
hitmanWillyjza873, slack is extremely old school07:40
hitmanWillyjza873, its great if you don't mind hand configuring stuff07:40
jttcskj:  CNTL + ALT + F1  ,  login ,  ls -ld  .kde  see what the time on the .kde directory is07:40
jttcskj: want to see if it was jsut created07:41
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scrubb2000Ok I'm back finally07:41
jza873i herd it is very good tho very stable and not too hard and it has something simmilar to apt-get07:41
scrubb2000Any miraculous insights?07:41
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, ok, your net adapters are working, its something to do with DHCP07:41
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scrubb2000hitmanwilly, why wouldn't ifconfig work then?07:42
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jza873what about gentoo herd that was good but is that a pain also07:42
Marthyive used gentoo07:43
mackymanjza873: Well, gentoo is ALL manually tuned07:43
jza873any thing worth while07:43
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, ifconfig is seeing the cards, so that's not the problem07:43
Marthylong while ago, it can be fast if config'd properly07:43
scrubb2000Ok.07:43
scrubb2000DHCP works fine under windows.  Why wouldn't it work under linux?07:43
mackymanjza873: I got tired of gentoo when I realised that I was trying to tune it to behave about as Kubuntu07:43
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, do you have any kind of encryption or network keys on the router?07:43
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, not that I know of.07:44
jza873really07:44
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, it almost looks like the router and linux aren't talking07:44
jza873so no one distro is really better then another all you pretty look for is the packmage manager is what i herd07:44
mackymanjza873: and especially when trying to install kdm and the two dependecies of it was blocking each other07:44
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, I can't imagine why.  DHCP is cross-platform, no?07:44
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, open up 192.168.0.1 in your web browser07:44
mackymanjza873: Well, and the install07:45
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, that takes me to the router's settings page07:45
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, yes, i use it on mine07:45
jza873well i herd gentoo is evil on the install07:45
scrubb2000I know how to use it.07:45
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scrubb2000Any settings I should be aware of?07:45
mackymanjza873: It's a ~40page manual07:45
mackymanIt's not as hard as it sound07:45
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, take a look anything security or DHCP related07:45
kristjan_what is doublescan07:46
jza873so is ther a version that is really better then any others07:46
mackymanBut... When things begin to fuck up and you ain't a guru, the best choise is to restart the install.07:46
hitmanWillyjza873, its all about what you want to do07:46
mackymanjza873: That's probably personal. Different type of distrons are good for different type of persons07:46
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mackymanjza873: Kubuntu is the way for me atleast. I like the way everything is working and LOVE the support. I wuld still be running windows without it07:47
jza873question how do you address someone in red liek u been addressing me07:47
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, actually, do you have a firewall running on nix?07:48
fignew_jza873: you put their nickname somewhere in the message07:48
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, DHCP is enabled...no password or anything.07:48
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, I have no idea...it's the default kubuntu installation.07:49
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, some firewalls will block DHCP07:49
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hitmanWillyscrubb2000, once you get into linux again, run firestarter and select stop firewall from the menu and see if it connects07:50
jza873is ther a program to like ghost my system incase i mess it up07:50
mackymanjza873: I have thought of that too07:51
jza873i do have a tendency to mess a lot of stuff up in the learning process07:51
scrubb2000is that on the k-menu?07:51
mackymanjza873: Wellcome to the club07:51
jza873lol07:51
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jza873luckly it only take 10 mins to reinstall07:51
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, it might be, i'd just run it in konsole07:52
scrubb2000ok07:52
scrubb2000any other suggestions?07:52
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, you have to kdesu it07:52
mackymanjza873: I guess one option is to make /home/ on another partition. Then you won't lose any personaly work data when reinstall07:52
scrubb2000kdesu?  is that like sudo for the gui apps?07:53
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure dhclient maybe07:53
jza873yea ill have to do taht some time i do have and external 300 gb hd tho07:53
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, yeah07:53
jza873and you can buy 1tb hd from dell for like 300$07:53
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jza873so that may be an investment07:53
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scrubb2000Ok, I'll go try the firewall thing.  brb.07:54
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, i have to go, work tommorrow07:54
scrubb2000heh heh me too07:54
scrubb2000thanks for the help though.07:54
scrubb2000At least i Know what ISN"T the problem now.07:54
jza873one more question b4 i leave any goodbooks i should buy to learn some more im done with windows and mac so im using linux full now and want to learn as much like i know with windows07:54
mackymanjza873: The other stuff usually don't take too long to install, just a matter of apt-get. You can alternativly download all the .deb packages when installing and store them in a dir, and in a reinstall, install them all with a bash-script so that you don't have to download them. But that's just a crazy Idea.07:54
hitmanWillyi'll be back in the channel tommorrow if you still haven't fixed it07:54
scrubb2000ok thanks.  Same time?07:54
hitmanWillyafter about 607:54
hitmanWillycdt07:54
scrubb2000sooper.  goodnight then.07:55
hitmanWillyso pretty close, yeah07:55
hitmanWillynight07:55
jza873yea im ghost too ill be back on late tomorrow07:55
jza873later07:55
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mackymanjza873: I guess you have to find a book for just Ubuntu or Cubuntu07:55
mackyman*kubuntu07:55
jza873ill look07:55
mackymanUbuntuforum.com usually is quite a good source of knowledge07:55
[pyro] jtt: yeah i figured that. but what i dont know is why doesnt the computer default to termainal 7 so i can login to x. I just get txt login and have to press CTRL ALT F7 to get the x login.07:56
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jttpyro: if kdm created an new .kde under your home directory then i am a little baffled as to why you dont have the default screen back08:01
jttpyro: themes are basically user preferences and come from your  .kde  directory08:02
mackyman[pyro] : have you checked /etc/X11/default-display-manager08:02
mackyman?08:02
jttoh well, early flight tomorrow, later folks08:02
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mackymancya jtt08:02
jttcya all08:02
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mackyman[pyro] : And are there any errors in ~/.xsession-errors ?08:04
mackymanWhops... Late. Have to get to the bus to work08:04
mackymancya everyone and bbl08:05
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se7en_i need some help with nvidia fx 5200 i have done everything including easyubuntu and automatics. all i get is a black screen if i change from nv driver to nvidia ...08:09
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[pyro] se7en_ : press CTRL ALT F708:14
[pyro] se7en_; do you get the login?08:14
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se7en_[pyro] : no i get a black screen just before i can log in and ctrl alt f1 doesn't do anything08:15
[pyro] CTRL ALT and F708:15
[pyro] se7en_: 7 as in Seven08:16
[pyro] :S08:16
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se7en_yes08:16
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se7en_f7 doesn't do anything as well08:16
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mardihi, i'm trying to copy a cd to an .iso with Kubuntu 6.10. I'm doing: dd if=/dev/cdrw of=/home/mysuer/Desktop/cd6.iso conv=noerror, will this work?08:19
mardiwell, 645830656 bytes (646 MB) copied, 188.916 seconds, 3.4 MB/s so i guess so...08:20
bobstromardi: been awhile, but i used to do it that way.08:21
bobstromardi: for a simple data cd, it should be fine.08:21
mardiok, thanks bobstro08:21
korrxmore elegant than mkisofs ?08:22
bobstrokorrx: simpler at least!08:23
korrx:)08:23
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mardione sec, it shows a file size of 0 bytes08:24
bobstrokorrx: i suppose if you were preparing a bunch of files to go to cd by hand.08:24
korrxyes08:24
bobstromardi: not good. is it a protected cd in some way?08:24
mardiand when i try to mount it i get: /home/myuser/cd6.iso: No such file or directory08:24
bobstromardi: that could stop it dead.08:24
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bobstromardi: er... but what happened to those 646MB copied?08:25
mardibobstro: not sure, it's a very old expansion cd to baulders gate, i'm running baldur's gate with wine, then i installed this expansion cd and now the game complains it wants a cd...08:25
bobstromardi: you did have Desktop in the path before!08:25
mardibobstro: good question...08:25
bobstromardi: those aren't the same path08:26
firepol_hi guys, i've installed Eclipse. But there is no menu entry, why? Or how can I run eclipse? Thanks for helping...08:26
mardidoh!08:26
bobstro:)08:26
mardithat worked, thanks bobstro08:26
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bobstromardi: good luck. there are certainly prettier tools available. :)08:27
mardiyeh but i'm just messing around08:27
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nbcbwhat's a way to trace an app that runs and close so fast?08:44
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nbcbi tried using top but can't see08:44
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flaccidwhat info do you need08:45
nbcblike i click on a link, it uses my mplayer but it closes after i clicked it08:46
nbcbi want to know what are the parameters and what program it run08:46
JohnFlux_firephoto: hi08:46
JohnFlux_firephoto: that's strange indeed08:46
nbcbi would use ps but its too fast08:46
JohnFlux_firephoto: are you still there?08:46
flaccidnbcb: in what program?08:46
JohnFlux_firephoto: you need to do:  sudo cp /usr/share/app-install/desktop/eclipse.desktop /usr/share/applications/08:46
nbcbin my konsole08:47
flaccidyou can't click on licks on konsole ?08:47
JohnFlux_firephoto: then it will appear under Development08:47
JohnFlux_Riddell: is that a bug ^^ ?08:47
nbcblicks08:49
nbcbhmm i click on firefox08:49
nbcbbut i monitor what's running on konsole08:50
flaccidyou can't do that08:50
flaccidwhat you click on in firefox does not come up in konsole08:50
nbcb!monitor08:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:50
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korrxnbcb : did you try mplayer <your_video_file> ?08:50
flaccidnbcb: see #firefox08:50
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nbcbwhat i click on firefox runs a mplayer, which will appear on my konsole if i type ps aux | grep mplay08:51
nbcbbut the mplayer just closes so fast..blah nvmind08:51
korrxtry in konsole mplayer <url>08:52
flaccidman top08:52
yotuxis there a reason to use multiple mac ids for a wireless card?08:52
flaccidyou could increase polling speed08:52
flaccidotherwise i don't kow08:52
flaccidand you still didn't provide what info you needed about the process..08:52
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flaccidwhat did you want to monitor08:52
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nbcb!ltrace08:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ltrace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:54
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korrxnbcb : man ltrace in konsole08:54
flaccidnbcb: nothing you can do08:55
flaccidwhat is the problem, why do you need to do this?08:56
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alexiconanyone here actually use hibernate or suspend on their laptop?09:02
alexiconive got a vaio, and the last time i used it back in january it gave me loads of disk problems09:02
alexiconanyone know if improvements have been made since?09:02
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yotuxwhat do you mean by disk problems>09:03
alexiconi am i had to fsck everything after the hibernation09:04
alexiconit had a couple nasty effects like that, but im not sure why. if its my laptop, the hibernation mode itself or what09:04
yotuxlast time I check herbnation was an issue in edgy.09:04
alexiconyeah im still on edgy09:05
yotuxFiesty is beta yet and I think some improvements where made09:05
alexiconhrm09:05
yotuxI have an hp and hib.  doesn't work09:05
alexiconok09:05
alexiconi shant risk it then09:05
alexicongot a presentation need my laptop, i?l just shut down properly :P09:05
yotuxgood call09:05
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mardiis there a key board short cut for changing view modes in konqueror file browser?09:10
yotuxmardi: I believe so it under settings and shortcuts09:11
yotuxmardi:  you may have to set it manually09:11
krautmoin09:13
mardii think i've looked there in the past, and i've just now looked again yotux, and i still can't see anything associated with view09:13
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yotuxmardi:  I have found 3 views optios so far and a couple of show09:14
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mardiyou mean the 'split view left|right' and 'link view' and 'close active view' ones?09:16
yotuxthose are some of them09:16
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mardiwell ya see, i like the 'detailed view' for displaying files but often, even though i've already set it not to in the konqueror file browser profile, it switches to icon view. I just want a quick way to switch to 'detailed list view'09:18
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mardisometimes just navigating up a folder switched to icon view09:18
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korrxmardi : I searched for a while such shortcuts without find any ; would be really usefull though09:25
mardikorrx: aye09:25
korrxmardi : anyway, konqueror can remember your typ of display for each directory you're used to browse09:26
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mardiyeh, i've been working on that :)09:27
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mardiok, how about this: is there a way i can assignt a keyboard short cut to the command 'kdesu konqueror'?09:34
endriuhi everybody09:34
mardihi endriu09:35
korrxhi09:35
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korrxmardi : maybe in kde general shortcuts ; create your own (if possible)09:37
mardiyeh, working on it now, i'm too newbie tho09:37
endriuyou can create a menu entry09:37
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endriuan then associate a key shortcut to it09:38
korrxendriu : yes09:38
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mardiooh09:39
tomi.09:39
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endriuoops sorry gotta go work :) bye everyone!09:40
mardihave fun!09:40
korrxbb09:41
cj_hello09:42
cj_to all09:42
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korrxhi cj_09:42
cj_how are u korrx09:42
icecruncherwhenever I log into edgy(kde) i get an error saying the filesystem has terminated, I can't see anything on the desktop, no icons anything. any ideas?09:43
korrxwell thx cj_09:43
cj_pls help how to set up printer in kubuntu i'm newbie in kubuntu09:43
cj_thanks09:43
flaccid!printers09:43
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:43
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korrxcj_ : kde control panel : all you need to configure cups is automatized there09:44
korrxwoops : system menu ;)09:45
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cj_i don't have cups09:45
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korrxcj_ : sudo apt-get install cups ?09:46
cj_ahh ok09:46
cj_thanks09:46
flaccidits a good idea to read the docs pasted :)09:47
cj_thanks you very much korrx09:48
korrxyou're welcome09:48
korrxread doc anyway ;)09:48
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xjkxwhat differs ubuntu and kubuntu besides the kde usage?09:53
Tm_Txjkx: well, applications and settings09:53
korrxxjkx : nothing else ;)09:53
Tm_Txjkx: same base09:53
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xjkxi would like to read about the settings that comes in kubuntu and doesn't come on ubuntu, do the kubuntu website say it?09:56
Tm_Txjkx: well, that would be KDE settings09:57
korrxxjkx : don't know what differs among *buntu except your window manager and associated system tools and goodies09:58
xjkxi heard the install/uninstall thing (such as the add/remove of wind~) is only on kubuntu, is that true?09:59
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korrxQ:      What's the difference between a Mac and an Etch-a-Sketch?10:00
korrxA:      You don't have to shake the Mac to clear the screen.10:00
xardiaskorrx: are you shure? ever tried shaking your mac?10:01
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korrxI don't have a mac ; that does not work either with my PC :P10:02
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korrxmaybe I don't shake enough10:03
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xjkxlmao10:03
Tm_Txjkx: both have their own tools10:03
xardiaskorrx: i think so.. if you shake enough the screen will get clearly black, so it really works..10:03
korrxAHAHAHA10:03
xjkxTm_T we are in the point :> i was interested to know their particular tools...i think the websites should tell but i think it doesnt :>10:04
Tm_Txjkx: well, they are named "add/remove application" sorta way so...10:04
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korrxxjkx : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%2910:09
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RiddellJohnFlux_: seems like one10:14
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richardh_hey everyone...I'm having trouble with my CPU and its temperature (possibly ACPI connected)10:19
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JohnFlux_richardh_: trouble in what way?10:25
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premier_is there as simple (ie gui) way to create encrypted folders in ubuntu/linux?10:27
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richardh_johnflux: basically, after edgy upgrade CPU keeps overheating...and kernel log fills up with message about fan device not able to be turned 'on'10:27
xjkxunbutu.com says ubuntu needs 256 MB of memory, kubuntu.com doesnt say anything, how much memory i need? if with gnome i need that much, what with kde :O10:28
Tm_Txjkx: 256 is minimum recommended, though 64 (with enough swap) should work10:29
Tm_Tatleast work fine for my needs :p10:29
xjkx64 of memory?????10:30
xjkxi think it badly run fluxbox lol10:30
korrx:D10:30
xjkxthe swap is slow10:30
Tm_Twell, it runs KDE, though slow, because of hard swapping10:30
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xjkxbecause hard disk acess is slower than memory access10:30
premier_xjkx: no harm in trying, it, eh?10:30
Tm_Tbut, I used it a lot10:30
xjkxo.o10:31
Tm_Tand still do when needed10:31
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nbcbwtf my hotmail mails are all deleted ?!10:37
nbcbops sry10:37
nbcbwrong chan10:37
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mito125salve11:12
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mito125non ricordo + le regole di questo canale,potete darmi gentilmente il link???11:13
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mito125ho un problema alla scheda audio,ho una creative audigy,viene riconosciuta da kubuntu feisty,se faccio alsamixer mi da il nome della scheda,e tutti i volumi sono tra l'80 e il 100 %....X non sento nessun suono se provo a riprodurre un mp3 o un avi,con i programmi tipo amarok e vlc...Sapete cosa devo controllare per risolvere il prolema???11:15
yamal!it11:17
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:17
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mito125thank you11:17
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hnsnhello fellow student11:26
MK_MikeHey, i have a problem somtimes e.g. most time i reboot my pc there is no sound what so ever what ever i do e.g. reinstalling sound system, etc. i can't get it to work but ever now and again the sound works! any ideas how to fix this problem11:26
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SharpRazorcould anyone tell me if it is safe to remove old kernel headers from boot menu??11:26
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flaccid_SharpRazor: yep11:28
flaccid_safe11:28
korrxSharpRazor : yes, it's safe, but safier is to comment lines11:28
flaccid_comment them out however11:28
flaccid_heh soz korrx11:28
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insmodi fixed the atheros prob in the new version if anyone needs to know11:28
korrxhey11:28
SharpRazoryeah11:28
SharpRazorbut the headers take space on the disk don't they:)??11:29
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korrxSharpRazor : inn fact, yes.11:29
dachello all11:29
SharpRazorso i would like to remove them cause i don't use them at all11:30
SharpRazorsudo apt-get remove will do the work?11:30
korrxhope so, yes11:30
SharpRazorhope so, that does not sound too good :)11:31
korrxyes it does11:31
SharpRazori'll try it11:31
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korrxbe aware to specify old version #11:32
SharpRazori know know:) i'll use adept manager and that's it11:33
SharpRazorthanks guys, have a nice day, i'm off to work bye :)11:33
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korrxg00d11:33
VSpikeEverytime I come out of the screensaver, I get a crash handler for kdesktop_lock segfaulting.  Any recommendation on how to cure this?11:34
JohnFluxVSpike: don't use the screensaver? :-D11:34
MK_MikeHey, i have a problem somtimes e.g. most time i reboot my pc there is no sound what so ever what ever i do e.g. reinstalling sound system, etc. i can't get it to work but ever now and again the sound works! any ideas how to fix this problem11:35
JohnFluxVSpike: you could disable it and use xscreensaver instead maybe11:35
JohnFluxVSpike: or try googling11:35
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JohnFluxMK_Mike: check the volume/muted ?11:35
korrxJohnFlux : yes ; had this prob with kmix11:36
VSpikeI set up xscreensaver before... couldn't get kscreensaver to work.  I think that was an ATI fglrx driver bug, IIRC.  Don't have that card any more though11:36
JohnFluxkorrx: I believe it's to do with the defaults in some alsa drivers, rather than kmix itself11:36
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VSpikeStrange that this has suddenly started happening.  It's always been fine before.  Should probably try restarting the display manager11:37
insmod<MK_Mike :update alsa and edit the modules11:37
JohnFluxMK_Mike: as a random thing, maybe it works only when you reboot after being in windows?11:37
MK_MikeJohnFlux: it isnt muted!11:37
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korrxJohnFlux : maybe11:37
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MK_MikeJohnFlux>: maybe but i rebooted in linux a few times seens last time i was in windows so i think i have elimated that..11:38
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JohnFluxMK_Mike: it's not the reboots that matter, but the powering off11:38
MK_Mikeinsmod: i'm bit of a newbe i only just switched fully to ubuntu been using for about a year an a half though, how do i edit the modules11:39
MK_MikeJohnFlux: i have powered my pc off and then booted in linux and it still doesnt work before now.11:39
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JohnFluxMK_Mike: the other way round I mean11:40
JohnFluxMK_Mike: booting into windows then rebooting into linux  may make it work11:40
JohnFluxMK_Mike: could you run  lspci    and look for your sound card?11:41
JohnFluxprobably starts  Multimedia audio controller  or something11:41
MK_MikeJohnFlux: i think that actuly maybe the only time the sound works when i do that. but i can keep doing that so i need a way round booting into window before linux11:41
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xardiasis it possible to use the debian way of upgrading to feisty? (apt-get update, apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade)?11:43
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JohnFluxxardias: the gui does exactly that11:44
xardiasJohnFlux: okay thansk11:44
korrxwithout editing source.list ?11:44
xardiaswell i have edited my sources.list bevore upgrading11:45
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korrx;)11:46
korrxso it'll does debian way11:46
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xardiasconflicting packages - not installing nvidia-glx11:47
xardiashm. strange.11:47
xardiasnvidia-glx-dev conflicts with nvidia-glx (>= 1.0.9756)11:48
xardiasnow THAT is strange..11:48
korrxyou'll do it later ?11:48
xardiaswell. remove, install, and it works now.11:49
korrxafter nvidia* remove (otherwise conflicting ; odd)11:49
korrxgreat11:49
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xardiasbrb. restarting x11:49
korrxyeah buntu rulez11:50
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MK_Mikefeisty released?11:54
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Admiral_ChicagoMK_Mike: not till Thursday11:55
Admiral_Chicagoor around thursday11:55
MK_Mikeok thanks11:56
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cornelinuxHello, in konqueror I can only see /home and /media. How do I manage to see some other dirs as normal user?12:19
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Admiral_Chicagocornelinux: there is a file...hidden12:23
Admiral_Chicagosec12:23
Admiral_Chicago!hidden12:23
ubotuKubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)12:23
Admiral_Chicagothere you go12:23
cornelinuxAdmiral_Chicago: Ah, thanks. That is what i was looking for. :)12:24
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gemidjycornelinux: it is implemented for security12:25
gemidjywas*12:25
thorhi all was hoping I could get some help12:25
thorI have an application I installed via aptitude that does not whant to remove itsefl12:26
thorno matter what I try does anyone know how I can remove it12:26
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cornelinuxgemidjy: Not a bad feature. But I need to configure some of the directories. Now I can.12:27
Admiral_Chicagothor: sudo aptitude -f remove package ?12:27
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gemidjythor: paste the error on pastebin or somewhere..12:27
thorE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:27
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thorwhere can I paste it without flooding the channel12:28
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se7en_somebody know a partition program12:29
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thorGParted12:29
se7en_any other choices12:29
se7en_thanks thor12:30
thorsorry Qparted is the apps name12:30
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mito125!it12:35
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:35
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thorstill nothing12:35
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thorthere is no command via dpkg or atitude ot even apt-get that removes this app :S12:36
alexiconanyone know of an ncurse music player that has scrobbler support?12:36
alexiconapart from mpd which doesnt like me :P12:36
thorand everytime I update it cuzes my update maneger to fail12:36
thoranay help12:38
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aneeshow to login google talk in ubuntu...anybody help me plz12:40
tricassethor: paste the error in a paste-bin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12:40
tricasseanees: did you try gaim (Jabber protocol)?12:41
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aneeshmmm...let me try12:41
aneesthanx12:41
sivajiwhat this command will do "sleep 7200 | halt "12:42
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thorhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15952/  <--\clik :P12:43
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tricassethor: the app you cannot uninstall is k3d, not g/qparted12:46
thorI know12:46
thorI was helping another person with there request for a patition manager ;)12:46
sivajiFile "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 535, in read_version_info12:47
sivaji    raise PyCentralError, "package has no field Python-Version"12:47
sivaji__main__.PyCentralError: package has no field Python-Version12:47
thornever mind the app name I need to remove it12:47
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fictionok. i have kde and gnome. if i install xfce, will it work?12:50
fictionwould i be able to chose form the login screen12:50
fictionok. i have kde and gnome installed now. could i install xfce too?12:51
Admiral_Chicagofiction: of course12:51
thorhello any help12:51
fictionAdmiral_Chicago: so all 3 in 1? cool =] . thanks12:52
fictionwhats the package called? (kde was kubuntu-desktop, i believe. so, xfce-desktop?)12:52
Admiral_Chicagofiction: xubuntu-desktop12:52
fictionAdmiral_Chicago: thanks12:53
tricassethor: your problem seems to be related to the following bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/k3d/+bug/6484812:53
neojfiction: apt-cache search is handy :)12:53
fiction=] 12:53
tricasseyou may use edgy's proposed updates' repository to fix it, or fix it manually following the instructions in the last comment on the bug report12:54
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thorthx12:58
thorhopefully this will help ;)12:58
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grinreaaperhey can anyone tell me how to  use KCron.....12:59
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_4strO!cron grinreaaper01:03
_4strO!cron | grinreaaper01:03
ubotugrinreaaper: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm01:03
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thorit worked I can't belief it a "s" thats all it was versions and version01:05
thorcheers01:05
kernandohow can i install a ntfs hdd file reader?01:05
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ins-dragonclaw*knock knock*01:06
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ins-dragonclaw!time01:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
ins-dragonclaw...01:07
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ins-dragonclaw!kicker01:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
ins-dragonclaw!panel01:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
ins-dragonclawBot's having a bad circuit day...01:07
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sivaji!fiesty01:17
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)01:17
sivaji!fiesty bugs01:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fiesty bugs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:18
sivajiwhether fiesty is good ?01:19
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aneeshow to upgrade to fiesty01:23
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Admiral_Chicagoanees: see the topic01:25
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bobdhicksnda6901:29
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Admiral_Chicagosivaji: its worked very well for me and i've been testing it the whole time01:29
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gee|UNIX|hi01:45
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laurent_slt01:47
laurent_ca va ?01:47
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FlameBirddoes kubuntu beta also have the codec install software?01:58
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FlameBirdanyone?!02:00
MuJyes02:00
gemidjyFlameBird: what do u mean? as in Ubuntu Feisty ?02:00
FlameBirdgemidjy, as in Kubuntu fiesty02:01
gemidjyhaven't met so far02:01
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FlameBirdMuJ, gemidjy havent met that so far....02:01
gemidjysince I have the codecs installed from the very first day, however, ask on #ubuntu+102:01
FlameBirdahhh02:01
FlameBirdanyways tell me which is faster kubuntu or ubuntu?02:02
gemidjytry it02:02
gemidjydepends from many factors02:02
FlameBird256mb ram laptop02:02
gemidjyit is matter of architecture, choice and other things02:02
FlameBirdx8602:02
gemidjyu try it and see it by yourself02:02
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_4strOFlameBird: Xubuntu is faster ;)02:02
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FlameBird_4strO, but it sucks man xfce <- i dont like :D and it doesnt have OO bundled02:03
gemidjyo.002:04
FlameBirdwhat?02:04
gemidjyu can install oo, if u reffer on oo.org02:04
FlameBirdi know02:04
FlameBirdbut I have bandwidth limits02:04
gemidjyah02:04
FlameBirdfor the same size I can much sexier one with OO bundled :D02:05
sivajiis there any command to display os information like version etc02:06
gemidjysivaji: uname -a lists info on the running kernel if that's what u need02:07
sivajii want to see distribution version i use02:08
gemidjysivaji: u are using Kubuntu02:09
gemidjy:))02:09
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sivajiyes02:09
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gemidjysivaji: most common way to check this is cat /etc/debian_version on systems based on redhat /etc/redhat_version etc. but in Ubuntu there is no /etc/kubuntu_version and debian_version only lists 4.0 (in feisty)02:10
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T0uCHcan anyone help me with a bug i got on Kubuntu... it is closing kopete messenger,  add/remove programs...well almost evyrything.. i dont know what to do02:20
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yotuxhow could I sync my mail from my desktop to notebook02:24
c1|freakyif ur eMail provider has a imap server u could use imap instead of pop3 ... if u use pop3 u could not delete the eMails by default and they would be kept on the server so you could recieve it on both computers02:25
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yotuxthankz,   I was thinking about using ssh an rsync02:26
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kalorin_is there any way to see which programs are writing to a disk at any given time?02:29
marvesivaji : cat /etc/lsb-release02:29
kalorin_I walk by and my machine is timed out, monitors off, yet the harddisk is just popping about 1 or 2 times every couple of seconds02:29
kalorin_like it's writing something02:29
kalorin_but no idea what02:29
T0uCHis there anyone who can help me with this :  The application Adept Installer ( but almost all my software ) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)....... i dont know what to do02:30
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c1|freakyyotux: i use imap ...02:31
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c1|freakyT0uCH: u could send a bugreport ... if u dont want to ... just do nothing and close that window.02:33
c1|freakyif ut happens again ... u can still file a bugreport02:33
c1|freaky*it02:33
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yotuxc1freaky:  I don't have IMAP aval.02:33
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c1|freakyyotux: that sucks ^^02:34
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yotuxSuppose I could create a server at home and download all of my mail from there02:34
c1|freakyu could also just keep the mail on the server itself using pop3 ...02:35
c1|freakythats configureable in ur eMail client (probably)02:35
yotuxcould do that02:35
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lucaHi all, I'm having a problem with K3B+Feisty. It says that he can't find the MP3 decoder. Maybe I have to install a library?02:46
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shawn34how can I get the games menu/folder to show up in the main menu? when i go to edit the menu its in there but doesn't show up when i click on the apps menu02:48
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mackymanluca: sudo apt-get install libk3b-mp302:49
lucamackyman: I can't find it in my repositories (unable to find libk3b-mp3)02:51
_4strO!codecs | luca02:52
ubotuluca: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:52
mackymanwhat is the current version of kde?02:52
mackymanThat kubuntu uses?02:52
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chijin3.5.5 or 3.5.602:52
mackymankk02:53
mackymanThx02:53
shawn34how can I get the games menu/folder to show up in the main menu?02:53
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Ace2016Hi all02:54
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Ace2016anyone know how i can turn my current running system with all its packages into a live CD?02:54
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armandoexit02:55
Ace2016you mean /quit or /leave?02:55
Ace2016or did you mean to type that into konsole02:55
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drbreenhello02:57
CharlesHKGhow do I reinstall grub, without reinstalling kubuntu?02:57
c1|freakyapt-get install --reinstall grub02:58
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shawn34can anyone help me with my menu issue?03:00
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CharlesHKGdoesnt work....says E: Command line option 'r' [from -reinstall]  is not known.03:01
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rymo_hi guys :)03:03
rymo_could any1 give me magic boot command for kubuntu 7.04 live cd?03:04
rymo_ubuntu 6.10 live cd..works fine.. then i upgraded it do kubuntu..and then to 7.04..03:04
rymo_but pure kubuntu from cd...stops when loading kdm :(03:04
drbreenhow can i change the default language in kubuntu03:05
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shawn34ok i feel dumb now03:07
shawn34i didn't know kde comes default with no games lol03:07
shawn34no wonder its not showing up in my menu03:07
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lucarymo_: did you try the "safe graphics" mode?03:08
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rymo_yeah..i've also tried03:10
rymo_i also get leds_cmd error :/03:10
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shawn34rymo_: whats the problem?03:12
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rymo_kubuntu 7.04 live cd doesn't want to run03:13
rymo_it stops at running kdm03:13
drbreeni have a ltsp setup and english default language and that confuses my users03:13
drbreenkubuntu 6.0603:13
drbreener 6.1003:13
shawn34rymo_: how much ram?03:13
rymo_1GB03:13
shawn34rymo_: did you run the memtest?03:14
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rymo_no..but i run ubuntu live cd 6.10...and it works fine03:14
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shawn34rymo_: did you check the disk for burn errors?03:14
shawn34i would burn another03:14
rymo_yeah i've checked03:15
shawn34hrm03:15
rymo_there was an option in menu...and i used it to check cd03:15
angasuleI think I found a bug, if one sets teh screensaver so that it needs a password, it'll require a password only if the screensaver is running, but once the power saving mode goes on, it no longer requires a password03:15
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lucarymo_: now i remember that the kernel version 14 of feisty was broken, and I had to chroot from a dapper livecd to upgrade feisty's kernel: maybe your kernel on the livecd is the broken one (only a supposition)03:22
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rymo_could be03:22
rymo_i've too new laptop....and lotta problems with linux :/03:22
rymo_so every possibility is quite real problem :P03:22
lucayou could try to install edgy and then upgrade to feisty (or wait till the 19, when feisty is due out)03:23
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lucawhat laptop r u using?03:23
rymo_asus f3jp -> core 2 duo, x1700 etc..03:23
rymo_even cpu scalling doesn't work :/03:24
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lucaacpi has always been a bit problematic afaik03:25
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rymo_i tried to boot with acpi=off option :/03:27
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lucapeople managed to install linux on asus F series, so it shouldn't be a problem http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/asus.html maybe you'll have problems with ati video card etc, but you should try with an edgy or dapper liveCD03:28
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shawn34luca: how can i set an app to run automatically, (im new to kde) i can't find it in the settings03:29
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lucashawn34: automatically like "on startup"?03:29
shawn34yes03:29
shawn34im used to going to system>sessions03:30
shawn34in gnome though03:30
shawn34can't seem to find it in here03:30
pirothezero~/.kde/Autostart03:30
lucayes, the gnome thingy... lemme see: i did a .desktop file to start beryl03:30
pirothezeroput startup scripts in that directory03:30
aaroncampbellEvery time I try to update, I get this error E: The package magicolor2430dl needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.03:31
aaroncampbellThat's unfortunately a package that I built from a .tar.gz that had a /debian dir...However, I get the same error if I try to remove or purge that package.  What can I do to get rid of it?03:31
rymo_thx for link...there's no my notebook but i think it should help..many quite similiar03:31
shawn34isn't there a gui for it? not that it matters just suprised03:31
WillHello all. I think something has gone wrong with my X server. I was trying to play Doom 2 through wine, then it crashed and changed the resolution of my screen. So when I was trying to change it back, it crashed completely (black screen with fuzzy lines in middle). When I reset, I just see a background image, with no windows, menus, etc. Any ideas on how to fix this logging into console?03:31
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lucashawn34: i think it's not a good way, but you may want to look here http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Autostart?content=3251703:32
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lucaWill: have you got a backup xorg.conf file? If yes, you can do "sudo cp /etc/X11/backupfile /etc/X11/xorg.conf"03:35
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luca...no, i didn't read well03:36
rymo_guys...quick question03:36
Willluca: to my knowledge I have no backup xorg.conf file, as I just recently installed03:36
rymo_how to change a link03:36
rymo_on hdd instaltion of ubuntu03:36
rymo_i mounted hdd to live cd03:36
rymo_and i want to change a bash link03:36
rymo_cause i'm so stupid that i changed it -> linux crashed xD03:37
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Rebeccahey peoples. does anyone know a make/model of USB webcam that reliably works under kubuntu?03:38
lucaWill: to me if it prints the background correctly X works, but KDE not... you may try to do an "apt-get -f install", or reinstall the whole kubuntu-desktop03:38
lucarymo_: a symbolic link or an fstab item?03:38
lucaRebecca: my conceptronic cam works fine, you may want to check the "easycam" app03:39
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Rebeccaluca: okay03:39
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blackboeHeh, I never finished my question yesterday, I got pulled away03:39
lucamy web didn't work at first, then i used easycam and it set the cam up03:40
lucablackboe: what question?03:41
blackboeWell, I'm trying to install a piece of software on wine03:42
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lucawhat software?03:42
blackboeThe program looks for the copy-protected CD when it runs, though, which means no-go, apparently03:42
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blackboeI'm using the original CD, but wine isn't relaying this, apparently03:42
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lucablackboe: what software?03:43
rymo_luca: i changed sh link... command ln and that kind of stuff03:43
blackboezoo tycoon, actually. :P03:43
blackboeI just figure it's a good way to test wine's compatibility with stuff like that, though. You know, microsoft, DRM, etc.03:44
lucablackboe: it appears that the software won't run under kubuntu edgy. See the app database http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=53603:45
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blackboeSw007. Fair enough.03:46
lucarymo_: i don't understand, where and when did you put the link?03:46
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luca"...this ingenious game from microsoft..." i know ppl who died attempting to make the last FS work on linux xD03:47
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Willluca: How can reinstall the kubuntu desktop? I tried apt-get -f install and it just told me 0 upgraded, 0 installed, 0 etc.03:50
Daisuke_Idoluca: bear in mind that zoo tycoon hasn't been tested since 0.9.22, and wine is up to 0.9.35, there have been a lot of improvements since then, and it might be a good idea to at least give it a shot.03:50
nixternalsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:50
rymo_luca: i wanted to paste you pm but..i need to register..damn :/03:51
Daisuke_Idoalso, i shouldn't advocate this, BUT, you can also use a no-cd patch - perfectly legal if you're running a legit copy of the game :)03:51
Willnixternal: It says I already have most up to date version. how can I force a reinstall? and if I do, will I lose settings?03:52
nixternalyou won't lose settings03:52
nixternalwhy would you want to force a reinstall?03:52
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lucaDaisuke_Ido: i agree03:52
Willnixternal: I think something has gone wrong with my X server. I was trying to play Doom 2 through wine, then it crashed and changed the resolution of my screen. So when I was trying to change it back, it crashed completely (black screen with fuzzy lines in middle). When I reset, I just see a background image, with no windows, menus, etc. Any ideas on how to fix this logging into console?03:53
nixternalhehe, I was scrolling up to read that :)03:53
Willnixternal: Woops, didn't mean to copy the whole thing,.03:53
nixternaltis ok03:53
nixternala reboot didn't fix the issue?03:53
Willnixternal: not at all.03:54
nixternalhrmm03:54
WillThat didn't stop me from trying it 10 times... LOL03:54
nixternalhaha03:54
nixternalwhen you reboot do you get to the login screen fine?03:54
Willyeah03:54
Daisuke_Idoah, the beautiful thing about linux - a reinstall is almost never necessary, unlike that OTHER os.03:54
nixternalit is when you log in that all hell breaks loose03:54
Willdaisuke_ido: amen.03:54
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Willnixternal: yes03:54
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lucaso kdm works fine03:55
nixternalya, so that means X is fine03:55
nixternalsomething happened to KWin maybe03:55
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Willit appears so03:55
lucajust an idea: you may try to see if fluxbox works03:55
blackboeHey, Daisuke_Ido, I'm a fresh windows user, you're striking pretty close to the heart, there. :P03:55
jay_What is the best gui app to handle mounting of bin/cue/nrg files in kubuntu?03:55
nixternaljay_: command line (sorry ;p)03:55
lucajay: the best app, well, is the konsole command "mount" :P03:56
nixternalhaha03:56
jay_nope, sorry... gotta b a way03:56
rymo_luca: that's what i've done (pasted a part of howto) http://paste.uni.cc/1461803:56
jay_tired of doin that03:56
jay_:(03:56
Daisuke_Idoblackboe: i never said windows :D03:56
rymo_and now i'm trying to fix it03:56
blackboeYou were THINKING it, though03:56
nixternaljay_: check kde-look or kde-apps for Konqueror menus that do that, you may find one03:56
Willblackboe: Don't feel bad, I still have windows on some of my computers...03:56
Daisuke_Idojay_: look up acetoneiso03:56
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Daisuke_Ido!info acetoneISO03:56
blackboeDeep down inside, I know you were.03:56
ubotuPackage acetoneiso does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas03:56
Daisuke_Idoblackboe: you're right, i was :)03:56
blackboeI'm psychic03:57
lucabe back soon... i ran soldat and it left me with 800x600 resolution on a 19'' monitor03:57
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Willluca: how would I put fluxbox on my computer from command prompt? apt-get something...03:57
lucaWill: apt-get install fluxbox i think03:57
Daisuke_Idohttp://www.acetoneteam.org/03:57
Willluca: Thanks I will try it.03:57
Daisuke_Idofrom the site: AcetoneISO: A 'Daemon Tools' clone for linux with a lot more features03:57
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nixternalWill: I am double checking to make sure that kwin settings will get rebuilt if you blow them out03:58
Willnixternal: thank you03:58
nixternalWill: rm ~/.kde/share/config/kwin*03:58
nixternalthen try to login03:58
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lucaand say some prayers :)03:59
nixternalyes, 2 at least :)03:59
lucai recommend the "ave maria", it worked pretty well03:59
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WillBefore I do that, let me tell you the results of my fluxbox expirement. it didn't work either, did the same thing.04:02
korrxbye all 'later04:02
WillShould I still rm?04:02
nixternalWill: no04:02
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nixternalif it is doing it in fluxbox the issue lies elsewhere04:02
lucabad problem then04:02
jay_where does mount iso mount images to?04:02
nixternaldid you reconfigure xserver-xorg?04:02
Daisuke_Idojay_: it's configurable04:03
Willnixternal: no. should I?04:03
nixternalWill: yes04:03
lucasudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg04:03
jay_where do i configure it?04:03
nixternalsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:03
jay_or how?04:03
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Daisuke_Idoi don't have it installed at the moment, give me a couple minutes04:03
lucaok, you got me :)04:03
lucaah, don't forget the prayers too04:04
nixternalcoffee time, back in a bit04:05
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rymo_luca: did you get my paste link?04:05
Daisuke_Idojay_: this would have been a lot faster, but i had a hard drive take a permanent vacation yesterday :\04:06
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lucarymo_: re-paste it please, i logged off before04:06
rymo_http://paste.uni.cc/1461804:07
rymo_this is what i've done (a part of howto)04:07
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rymo_and now i've got unable to execute /bin/sh for rcS error04:08
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rymo_and i'm trying to fix it04:08
rymo_i mounted hdd to live cd04:08
lucaah!04:08
rymo_made /bin/sh link to /bin/dash04:08
lucaso you want to revert back to the original link?04:08
rymo_but..still doesn't work04:08
rymo_yup04:08
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Daisuke_Idojay_: create a directory to use for mounting (either in your home directory, or in /media)04:09
Daisuke_Idolooks like there's no way to automate that part of it04:09
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Daisuke_Idolike /home/jay/iso or something04:09
lucai suppose you did rm -f /bin/sh, ln -s /bin/dash and it didn't work04:09
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rymo_yeah04:10
Daisuke_Idoand it will ask you where to mount it when you choose the iso04:10
jay_uh huh, go on04:10
lucarymo_: well... you were on the livecd right?04:10
Daisuke_Idoerm...  that's it :D04:10
Daisuke_Idoi recommend in the home folder, or better yet on the desktop, for easiest access04:11
rymo_yeah..and now i'm looking at error from hdd instalatin04:11
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lucarymo_: the livecd is for edgy or feisty?04:11
rymo_edgy...feisty doesn't work04:12
jay_ok, lemme tell u what happens04:12
jay_I right click on an NRG, Manage  NRG -> Mount Image04:12
rymo_hdd instalation is feisty04:12
Daisuke_Idoooh04:12
Daisuke_Idoyeah04:12
Daisuke_Idothat's not going to work04:12
jay_then I get a Kdialog that prompts the name of the file04:12
jay_end of story04:12
lucarymo_: exactly, what does it tell to you when it says "error"?04:12
Daisuke_Idoiso only, that's a linux thing04:12
Daisuke_Idoacetone will convert it for you though04:12
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rymo_init: unable to execute "/bin/sh" for rcS: No such file or direcotry04:13
jay_same thing happens with iso04:13
Daisuke_Idoare you using acetoneiso?04:13
rymo_init: rcS main process (2458_ terminated with status 25504:13
rymo_that's all04:13
Daisuke_Idoin the software itself, i mean04:13
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Willluca and nixternal: I think my prayers failed, because now I don't get the graphical login at all...04:13
Rebeccahey peoples. does anyone know a make/model of USB webcam that reliably works under kubuntu?04:14
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WillAlso, the installer was visually corrupted as well.04:14
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lucarymo_: "which dash"04:15
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rymo_/bin/dash04:15
rymo_in live cd..sh is linked to dash..so i thought i would work04:15
lucaWill: take your pc to an exorcist :) ok, reinstall kde04:15
jay_Hey, no matter what option I choose for mount iso it just prompts the name of the file... just that04:16
Willluca: how do I do that from the console?04:16
lucarymo_: mm. try to do again "sudo rm -f /bin/sh", "sudo ln -s /bin/dash"04:16
rymo_luca: you mean /mnt/sda/bin/sh ...right?04:17
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lucaWill: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kde04:17
lucaWill: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kubuntu-desktop04:17
lucasry04:17
Willluca: thanks, I will try it.04:18
lucarymo_: why /mnt/sda?04:18
rymo_cause from live cd i need to get to hdd ..so i do it this way04:18
timflyhas anybody an idea if it is possible to use knetworkmanger and an additional wpa_supplicant.conf04:18
lucarymo_: ah, you aren't doing a normal install04:18
rymo_no..i want to avoid many hours of updaiting :(04:19
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rymo_i had a good system..but i changed that stupid link04:19
rymo_and i want it back :(04:19
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lucarymo_: mmm... so let me guess: you did install for the first time, you spent days for updating, but the system didn't work, so you're trying to reinstall but also avoid to update all?04:20
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lucarymo_: ok now i have understood04:21
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rymo_luca: i installed edgy...than kubuntu..than 7.04... but i had some problems with cpu..so i wanted to compile new kernel..so i installed some stuff and changed that stupid link04:21
Willluca: it is still broken.04:21
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bobdhicksNew problem from newbie. This morning I managed to get on #kubuntu through Konversation. When I tried to get other url's, received message could not connect to server. The worked on trying to get wifi to work. Went back to irc, still could not connect. Tried rebooting. Now, lost irc, no connect. I am directly connected by wire to internet. Nothing is working. Any suggestions. Using 6.1004:21
lucarymo_: argh! well, is the hard disk mounted correctly?04:22
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hnsnhello04:22
rymo_yeah ..i think so.... :)04:22
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rymo_i restarted notebook and mounted once again..and link was fine (i think so)04:23
lucaWill: ... i thought that reinstalling the whole kubuntu should take a very large amount of time04:23
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BluesKajHowdy all :)04:23
rymo_used mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/hda04:23
rymo_i think..it's quite good command :) ..than umounted..04:23
Willluca: it was very fast, actually.04:23
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lucarymo_: can you open the /mnt/hda directory and see its content?04:23
Willluca: but since I know something is wrong with it already, it wouldn't be surprising that it didn't do what I wanted. :(04:24
rymo_w8...i need to mount it04:24
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rymo_luca: yeah i see content04:25
lucaWill: no, the shell works until you bomb it with tsar bombas (scorched3d :)) --> like rymo_ did!04:25
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Willluca: ok so I need to bomb my shell... ;)04:25
lucaWill: well now i'm short of ideas... let me google a little04:26
lucarymo_: and can you see the directory where the sh link is supposed to be? woah, another idea: we may chroot in sda04:26
Willluca: on the flip side, I am so used to reinstalling my OS every 3 months or so that I can survive reinstalling KUbuntu again...04:27
Willluca: I still don't want to though. lol04:27
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lucaWill: it woud be a defeat of human brain against evil machine04:27
rymo_luca: sh is in bin04:28
lucarymo_: and is it a link? linked to?04:28
rymo_how to check it from consol?04:28
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lucaduh duh duh04:29
rymo_i always use nautilus xD04:29
rymo_fine..second :)04:29
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lucaok: hard way04:30
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rymo_luca: it targets /mnt/hda/bin/dahs04:30
rymo_dash..04:30
lucadaHs?04:30
rymo_misstyped on keyboard../bin/dash04:31
lucaok, and does that dash actually exist?04:31
rymo_maybe that's problem...maybe hdd instalation searches for mnt/hda....04:31
rymo_yup04:31
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luca....04:32
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lucaok, listen: we try not to reinstall -> so we try to repair the existing -> so we chroot into the existing and fix it up04:32
lucafirst of all: log in as root with "sudo su"04:33
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lucasecond: "chroot /mnt/hda"04:33
lucaand you'll be on your broken system as root04:34
rymo_i think i fixed it04:34
lucafrom there you can downgrade to edgy by changing all "feisty".....ok04:35
rymo_yeah..i fixed it04:35
lucasmarter than me. how did you do it?04:35
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rymo_as i said... hdd was searching for /mnt/hda....04:35
rymo_so i needed to change link from /mnt/hda/bin/dash04:35
lucaso you did...?04:35
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rymo_to /bin/dash04:35
lucaok04:35
rymo_thx for links and help :)04:36
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rymo_now i can get back to making kubuntu able to use cpu scalling04:36
rymo_cause it's my biggest problem :/04:36
lucarymo_: i suggest to search google for acpi on asus04:37
rymo_yeah...as i said..thx for links ;)04:37
lucaWill: r u always there?04:37
rymo_thay showed me asus-acpi04:37
rymo_:)04:37
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rymo_ they04:37
Willluca: I am usually there... ?04:37
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lucaWill: well, are you STILL there... sorry i am not anglosaxon04:38
Willluca: I ams till here. I was joking, referring to the fact that I might not be all there mentally all the time. :)04:39
lucaWill: ...well, 1) fluxbox did not work, 2) reinstalling kubuntu broke kdm04:40
Willluca: yes, I think so04:40
lucawhen you reinstalled kubuntu, did it pick many packages or only the kubuntu-desktop?04:41
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Willjust the desktop04:42
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Cosmo_damn hippies and their nature photo wallpapers04:42
Cosmo_=)04:42
lucaok, it is only a metapackage and didn't reinstall all. Then can you reinstall kdm please?04:43
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Cosmo_ok this temp sensor on my motherboard is definatly psycho, first it was reading 261.5 F now its reading -54.4F04:44
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lucaCosmo_: I agree, personally i think that Cameron Diaz is way more good-looking than a daisy with a bee flying upon it04:44
pollyoIs there a reinstall option for apt-get ?04:44
Cosmo_luca: exactly04:45
abattoirpollyo: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>'04:45
lucapollyo: sure. apt-get --reinstall install something04:45
pollyoThank you.04:45
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Willluca: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kdm ?04:48
lucaWill: i think so04:48
pollyoWill: No.04:48
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lucai'm not sure :)04:49
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lucafrom google, how to remove and reinstall kde: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/06/msg00272.html04:50
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angasuledoes anybody know how to force keytouch to *not* handle a certain key? since keytouch can only handle 4 virtual desktops and I have 5, I need one key to be handled by KDE directly...04:50
Willpollyo: Better ideas?04:50
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Daisuke_Idoluca: not KDE, kdm04:50
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pollyoWill: Doesn't Kubuntu have a specific set of options it installs for KDE?04:51
Willpollyo: I don't really know.04:51
lucaDaisuke_Ido: kdm worked before, i was assuming04:51
Willpollyo: I was primarilty a gentoo and windows user before. this is my first KUbuntu install.04:51
pollyoWill: I think it is kubuntu-desktop or something like that in adept.04:52
pollyoWill: What are you encountering?04:52
Willpollyo: I cannot get to adept, console login only.04:52
WillWell, it started: I think something has gone wrong with my X server. I was trying to play Doom 2 through wine, then it crashed and changed the resolution of my screen. So when I was trying to change it back, it crashed completely (black screen with fuzzy lines in middle). When I reset, I just see a background image, with no windows, menus, etc. Any ideas on how to fix this logging into console?04:52
pollyoWill: No graphcis? What type of video card do you have?04:53
WillBut then I tried fluxbox, it didn't work either. So I reinstalled kubuntu-desktop after reconfiguring it and now  I don't get the graphical login.04:53
luca........video card!!! maybe04:53
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Willpollyo: I have NVidea Geforce 304:53
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pollyoAnyone good with video cards?04:54
pollyoWould that be a legacy?04:54
Willpollyo: but I was getting graphics, just no windows04:54
pollyoWill: You go the splash screen or more then that?04:54
lucai'm with nvifia geforce fx 5500... well it isn't a bad idea since now you aren't getting graphics... startx returns an error?04:55
Willpollyo: I was get past the splashe04:55
jay_Anyone know why mountiso just prompts the name of the file when I choose "Mount Image"04:55
jay_?04:55
Willluca I will try it.04:55
pollyoWill: Did you get a blinking cursor instead of the login name and password screen?04:55
Willfatal error no screens found04:55
Willpollyo: no04:55
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Willpollyo: I get a login name and password screen in console.04:56
Willpollyo: but I used to get a graphical login.04:56
pollyoWill: Yes but no graphical login screen.04:56
Willpollyo: yes, no graphical login screen.04:56
pollyoWill: I suspect your video card is not configured correctly.04:56
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Willpollyo: I suspect many things aren't configured correctly at this point. :)04:57
Sharketorhi all04:57
pollyoAnyone recall the reconfigure command for xorg?04:57
lucaWill: hmm you can try using the vesa driver04:57
Sharketorsomeone could suggest me a web form filler for kubuntu?04:57
lucasudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:57
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pollyoluca:Thanks.04:57
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lucabut i think he did it be404:57
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pollyoWill: You may have the incorrect package for your video card.04:58
pollyoWill: I think they have three packages for nvidia now.04:58
pollyoWill: You might want to try vesa just to see if you can get graphical login back and then look more into the nvidia setup.04:58
lucado it again and select the vesa driver, it works for all video cards. If the login screen appears and you login in kde then it's a video card problem, if not it's a kde problem....04:59
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Willpollyoand luca: I reconfigured, this time I selected NV , last time was vesa04:59
Willnow I can startd04:59
Willstartx even04:59
lucano errors, graphical login?04:59
Willit looks like I may be up and running... hold on let me look05:00
lucaok05:00
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voicuwhat's a good program for playing dvds copied to the harddrive?05:01
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voicuvlc doesn't work and kaffeine is having another bad day or something05:02
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lucavoicu: i assume you have an iso mounted?05:02
voicuno05:02
voicuit's copied raw05:02
voicuthe video_ts directory05:02
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voicu(wasn't me, it's a torrent)05:03
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lucai'm not expert of dvd formats... do you have the libdvdcss, libdvdread library or sth similar?05:03
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voicui tried playing the VIDEO_TS.VOB file but it's just flashing the menius and i can't select the correct language and subtitle05:03
voiculemme see05:04
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voicui have a libdvdnav package that says it can use the menus in the dvds05:05
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pollyoAny have an idea why my firefox might be locking up?05:05
voicuvlc depends on this05:05
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voicuoh wait, the torrent didn't finish05:06
voicui think that's the problem :P05:06
lucavoicu: did you try it before?05:06
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voicuvlc?05:06
voicuwith dvds no05:06
intelikeydisismolikeit05:06
intelikey-/+ buffers/cache:          7        24205:06
blekoscould u tell me what is "dirty volume mount"?05:06
bobdhicksProblem with internet connection. Using Konversation for irc. Could not connect to url's. Error "Server Not Found". Tried other browsers. Didn't work. Tried rebooting. Now can't use irc or other browsers. Any suggestions, please.05:07
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intelikeya modern ubuntu linux running in less than 8m of ram   :)05:07
Willpollyo and luca I think it is working, if so I will be back on my kubuntu box as willluongo05:07
lucavoicu: playing dvds not as an iso but as..now is05:07
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voicuno, it's the first time on linux05:08
pollyoWill: Ok. Talk to you soon.05:08
intelikeyblekos dirty is normally a referance to the fs not being umounted properly.05:08
voicui have been using linux for an year05:08
lucavoicu: any result from google?05:08
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voicui found something on vlc05:09
voicusomething like i need a library05:09
voicui'll try that05:09
lucabobdhicks: did you set up your network settings properly?05:09
lucavoicu: maybe that's it05:09
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kaiis there a way to go back to kubuntu 6.1 from 7.04?05:11
bobdhicksEverything's been working for over a week. The problem started this morning.05:11
intelikeykai yep.  reload05:11
leleplease help!05:11
kaireally05:11
kaiman05:11
intelikeykai upgrading is supported.  down grading is not.05:12
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lucakai: yes, you can either 1) substitute "feisty" with "edgy" in your sources.list or 2) wait till the 19 of this month when feisty will be released05:12
lucakai: what's your problem now?05:13
leleehi? anybody can help?05:13
lucalele: va bene, dimmi che problema hai :)05:13
lelewow grande luce05:13
kaiintelikey: oh no05:13
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lelein privato?05:14
kailuca: Its just not what i thought i'd be, I may wait a few months first, why you sait like that?05:14
leleluca sono un super newbie....05:15
lucalele: no vai pure qui, e se puoi usa l'inglese (la prox volta d subito il problema per)05:15
intelikeykai i think he mis read your Q05:15
WillLuongoluca and pollyo: Thank you for all your help! I am up and running, and I have 1280 x 1024 back (which I lost when I upgraded to edgy). Thanks again!05:15
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leleenglish...05:15
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lucakai: huh, you want to go back to edgy?05:15
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kaiyea05:16
lucaWillLuongo: happy to hear that :)05:16
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leleok.... i can install the programs pretty well, but i can't start them!! i guess it's really easy but i just put kubuntu on and i don't know how to do...05:16
intelikeyc see si05:16
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kaiI can'teven use operA05:17
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lucakai: when i did it, i put "edgy" instead of "feisty" in my /etc/apt/sources.list and then "upgraded"05:17
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lucakai: maybe it's not the correct way05:17
leleluca???05:18
intelikeyluca and what did it "upgrade" ?    nothing i would assume.05:18
kaiThats what I did, the only thing I put in m repo list was the the on for me to upgrade05:18
lucalele: it's like window$... you have to click on the place where you normally find the "start" button05:18
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leleok, but when i go to the "start" i can't find the apps i installed...05:20
lucaintelikey: at that time, i was upgrading from dapper to edgy. it didn't succeed, so i did as i said to revert back to dapper, i had my dapper packages again and did a correct upgrade to edgy05:20
lucalele: name an app you want05:20
pollyoWould installing additional desktops (edubuntu, ubuntu, etc) cause any type of conflict in firefox?05:21
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lucapollyo: i dont think so, the firefox package should be common for all ubuntu flavours05:21
pollyoIs there a way to check my dependency requrements?05:22
intelikeypollyo shoulsn't.    but there is the chance i guess.05:22
pollyointelikey: Since installing them I my firefox now locks up.05:23
lucapollyo: if some dependency is broken or so, you could run "apt-get -f install" to fix... my guess05:23
intelikeypollyo sudo apt-get install -f05:23
pollyointelikey: I did a reinstall of firefox.05:23
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leleluca: for example i just installed netspeed...from the universe...05:23
lelehow can i start it?05:24
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lucalele: let me see wnat's it05:24
WillLuongoIs there a way to set numlock to default on?05:24
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lucalele: anyway every program can be started from konsole, just type "netspeed"05:24
wolferineWillLuongo,  in your services05:24
jhutchins!info netspeed05:24
ubotunetspeed: Traffic monitor applet for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 271 kB, installed size 816 kB05:24
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lucaWillLuongo: i think it's in the control center->keyboard settings05:24
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WillLuongothanks luca!05:25
wolferinemorning jhutchins05:25
jhutchinsMorning.05:25
jhutchins(Yes, it's morning here too, though it's nearly 3:30 in Hampshire.)05:25
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wolferine(ok) :)05:26
intelikeypollyo as i said.   "it shouldn't cause issues"     there is no known reason for that to cause issues.   but install multipel     *buntu-desktop  packages is in my openion not a good idea.    if you have ubuntu-desktop and want kde, don't install kubuntu-desktop, install kde    if you have kubuntu-desktop and want gnome   install gnome  ....05:26
Davidohey, what's going on with all the news announcements on ubuntu..com?05:26
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lucalele: hum it's an applet if i'm not mistaken, it should run in the tray05:27
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soomonhi, i finally got cd-emu compiled after some problems, but not when i execute it it sais "can't connect to daemon" i don't know how to start that daemon -.-' can anyone tell me?05:27
lelethanks luca... i could start it...05:27
lelebyez05:27
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pollyointelikey: I'll have to work on that... I selected the ubuntu-desktop. <grin>05:27
pollyointelikey: And the edubuntu.05:28
intelikeyyes it's often sujested in here   but not by me.05:28
pollyointelikey: It will give me something to look into for the next few days.  (And remember when I go to install this on my main computer)05:28
lucapollyo: just curious, how many text editor programs do you have now? xD05:28
Davidois ubuntu 7.04 already released, or tomorow or thursday?05:28
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pollyoluca: I suspect I must have close to 100 (without looking)05:29
lucaDavido: i think it will be the 1905:29
soomonyesterday there only was a beta05:29
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soomonbut it runs nice :)05:29
pollyobrb05:29
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lucapollyo: when i did install KDE on Debian i only installed kde-core, so the apps are only gnome apps... instyead of installing all the kde apps05:30
Davidook, I think I misread this headline http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntudesktop704, to me it looked like the just realesed but I couldn't find a download for 7.0405:30
soomoni finally got cd-emu compiled after some problems, but not when i execute it it sais "can't connect to daemon" i don't know how to start that daemon -.-' can anyone tell me?05:30
lucaDavido: do u havbe edgy?05:30
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soomoni have feisty05:31
lucasoomon: i can't help you on that, i don't know cd-emu05:31
soomondamn :/05:31
intelikeysoomon generally    sudo /etc/init.d/<daemon-name> start05:31
jhutchinsFeisty is still #ubuntu+1, there were hints last week that the April 19 target may be missed due to major breakage, including kernel and hardware support issues.05:31
Davidoluca: no, dappers here, but I don't know if I will use edgy or etch (debian), I prefer ubuntu because it has newer apps, but debian because it doesn't install nonfree software by default05:31
soomonwell.. i tried.. there is none :/05:32
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Davidobut I think i will try edgy when it's released05:33
lucaDavido: nonfree software in ubuntu? O.o05:33
lucaDavido: edgy is the current stable ubuntu version05:33
jhutchinssoomon: You shouldn't be compiling software at this stage, but in any case look in the documentation.  At the very least there should be README and INSTALL files in the root of the tar.gz, and there should be more documentation included in the package, including man pages.05:33
lucanext one is feisty05:33
intelikeyluca yes and by defauult05:33
kubuntu22Thought is was Gutsy Gibbon05:34
intelikeyluca everything in "restricted" is non-free05:34
lucaintelikey: thanks, i didn't knew it05:34
Davidoluca: Owh yeah I'm not good with code names, did Mark choose that name on purpuse to make it extra confusing with the debain name05:34
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intelikeyand some in multiverse05:34
jhutchinskubuntu22: GG will be the next ubuntu+1 onece Feisty Fawn is realeased.05:34
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lucaintelikey: ok so the solution to davido's ethic problem would be to cancel the restricted line and not to enable multiverse05:35
intelikeyluca yes05:35
Davidoluca: yeah, but I think when a distro calls itself completely free it should only install free software by default05:35
jhutchinsIsn't there some option during install to do that?05:35
intelikeyluca but that is not a perfect solution.   some things in multiverse are FOSS indeed so you cancel them too....05:36
DavidoI for intance don't have a problem with lindows or linspire, they also install nonfree but they don't hide it05:36
soomonjhutchins: i did what the manual tells me :/05:36
lucaDavido: i have installed Debian etch on my home server, personally I like Ubuntu because it does well what i want, i'm not an ethic kind of person provided you don't drug my pc with bugs05:37
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Cosmo_I downloaded the .debs for my brother 1840c printer since it is not on the list that comes up when adding a printer, but when I install the .deb it still doesn't come up on the list. What am I doing wrong?05:37
Davidofor instance the name multiverse is stupid, of course it's true that the stuff in there is multimedia stuff but the reason it's in there is because it's nonfree and not because it's media stuff, I think this is done to cover up it's nonfree05:37
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lucaintelikey: but FOSS isn't supposed to go in the universe?05:38
jhutchinsCosmo_: Installing debian software on ubuntu, which means it doesn't go in the right place.05:38
intelikeyDavido it's not an "illeagle" install of non-free software.  (speaking of restricted)  it's just the fact that it's not free open sourse software05:38
Cosmo_jhutchins: so how do I get it in the right place?05:38
jhutchinsCosmo_: I suppose you read the cups doccumentation and find out what it's looking for and where.05:39
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intelikeyluca yes supposed,   but there can be reasons that it remains in multi.05:39
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Davidointelikey: yes but what sets the multiverse repo apart is that the stuff in there is nonfree, so why isn't it called nonfree05:39
luca...speaking of printers: anyone knows a way to install the "olivetti artjet 22" drivers? I didn't find them for Linux, and a way to install the Windows ones...05:40
patrick_I have a question about firefox 2.0 in Kubuntu05:40
intelikeyDavido idk.  i had nothing to do with naming things.05:40
lucapatrick_: go on05:40
Davidointelikey: ok, I understand that05:40
Davidooop gotta go, bye05:41
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patrick_Is there anyone know why I could not use the keyboard input in xwindow environment after clear the private data in Firefox 2.0...But I could log-in in xserver05:41
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intelikeypatrick_ sounds like a bug  to me.05:42
intelikey!bug05:42
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots05:42
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pollyoOk.  My firefox is working once again.05:43
luca...i'm off playing enemy-territory. bye05:43
intelikeypollyo cure ?05:43
patrick_Yes... it was the second time occured in kubuntu !!! The final solution was the re-install the OS !!!05:43
intelikeycrude but affective patrick_05:44
pollyointelikey: I'm not sure.  Perhaps it was one of the packages it removed when I did that apt-get command for the dependencies.05:44
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pollyointelikey: But the reboot might have also helped.05:44
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intelikeypollyo probably the apt-get05:45
pollyointelikey: I agree.05:45
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intelikey*NOTICE*  this is not that M$ reboot OS.   this is linux, and the only time a reboot is required is to load a different kernel!       (although some beginers find it easier to reboot than to cycle runlevels)05:46
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pollyointelikey: Do you have a website that discussess "cycle runlevels"05:48
intelikeypollyo no.      sudo init 1        when it's done     init 205:49
pollyointelikey: Ok. Thanks.05:49
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pollyoAdobe is coming with a media player.  I hope they come out with one that works on linux as well.05:52
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rymo_aPod? xD05:52
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MinceRthe Lagged Video Player.05:53
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pollyohttp://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/31628/98/05:53
MinceRlag between audio and video will be guaranteed to be at least 2 seconds!05:53
MinceRguaranteed to use at least 90% of cpu time!05:54
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pollyo"with support for Linux to follow later."05:54
rymo_damn...huge player05:54
rymo_even on windows i use small :/05:54
intelikeyguaranteed to only work on the very newest hardware.05:55
MinceRand every fifth version will even run under linux.05:55
pollyoAt least they mention support for it.05:55
rymo_but only under mandrake 9 :P05:55
intelikeywith special driver05:55
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pollyoIt is a step in the linux direction.05:56
intelikeyrymo_ mdk 9   :)    i like that release.05:56
pollyoIf they ever release the version.05:56
rymo_xD05:56
rymo_wine won't be usefull?05:58
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pollyorymo_: Only for drinking.05:59
rymo_so i'm happy :)05:59
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rymo_you see i'm directx programmer ...so i don't know linux too much xD05:59
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KyralEewwwww DirectX06:01
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ricachHello.how do I install audio output correctly in Kubuntu?06:06
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Cosmo_which would be better to install from a .deb or .rpm?06:06
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intelikey!packages | Cosmo_06:07
ubotuCosmo_: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!06:07
pollyoricach: I know that K -> System Settings has information on your sound setup.  I am not sure of additional packages though.06:07
intelikey!Adept | Cosmo_06:08
ubotuCosmo_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto06:08
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intelikey!repos | Cosmo_06:08
the_hammer!beyrl06:08
ubotuCosmo_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beyrl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:08
Cosmo_except it's not available in adept06:08
the_hammer!beryl06:08
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:08
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intelikeyCosmo_ package name ?06:09
pollyoDoes anyone know of a hardware site that reviews hardware support?06:09
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intelikeypollyo i think i've ran accross one or two.   google.com/linux   search.06:10
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pollyointelikey: I came across one or two as well.06:10
pollyointelikey: I was looking for something more like a magazine (in a website)06:11
Cosmo_intelikey: either brmfcfaxlpd-1.0.0-1.i386.deb or brmfcfaxlpd-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm06:11
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intelikey!info brmfcfaxlpd06:11
ubotuPackage brmfcfaxlpd does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas06:11
pollyointelikey: Will the package information change on the 19th as well?06:12
pollyointelikey: This will become a feisty room of sorts?06:12
intelikeypollyo possably.06:12
intelikeyand yes06:12
Cosmo_its a brother fax/printer that I am trying to get installed (I'm not the one that bought it)06:13
intelikeyCosmo_ you can try the .deb      sudo dpkg -i /full/path/to/brmfcfaxlpd-1.0.0-1.i386.deb06:13
Cosmo_those are the only drivers I can find on the brother website06:13
Cosmo_intelikey: thanks06:13
pollyoCosmo_: What is the printer name/number?06:14
intelikeyah yes more non-free propritary patented licensed pay before you play crap....06:14
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Cosmo_intellifax 1840C06:14
Cosmo_brother06:14
intelikeypollyo it's a brother all in one.      brother.com06:14
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johnsonhi06:15
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intelikey Doorsanchar Sadan  ?06:16
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alexiconanyone here use mpd??06:16
intelikey! i06:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:19
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pollyointelikey: They have nothing about it on linuxprinting.org06:21
pollyointelikey: I do not know how up to date the database is there.06:22
cloakableHas anyone managed to get a reliable connection with a P900 phone and Kubuntu Edgy?06:22
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intelikeypollyo i have no joy with brother products.06:24
pollyointelikey: I feel the same way about lexmark.06:27
pollyointelikey: At the very least brother appears to have a good amount of drivers "listed" for linux. (I have no idea about how current they are though)06:27
jhutchinsI have a brother printer running, but it seems to have killed openoffice.06:27
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YbeddyJhey how can i create a theme that also includes the look shape and feel of the menu/task bar (panel)06:29
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toko123i'm running 5.10 is there a way to upgrade this machine?06:30
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abattoirtoko123: it's not really advisable to skip upgrades, afaik06:31
abattoirtoko123: so i thing you should do 5.10->6.06->6.10-> etc.06:31
abattoir(hope someone corrects me if i'm wrong)06:31
abattoir*think06:31
fdovingabattoir: correct :)06:31
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abattoirhi fdoving :)06:31
fdovinghi :)06:31
atidemhi!06:32
abattoirYbeddyJ: what type of theme are you talking about?06:32
intelikeytoko123 chance all word "breezy" to "dapper"  in the /etc/apt/sources.list   and do   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:32
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abattoirYbeddyJ: the look/feel of the menu/taskbar is generally controlled by the widget style06:34
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abattoirYbeddyJ: for the taskbar, you could use images/make it translucent(with a colour hint)06:34
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pollyoDo they have a theme website for kde?  Do they have an application that will allow you to browse additional themese and download them similar to what they have for backgrounds?06:36
toko123intelikey: would it less time consimming to burn a 7.10 disk? and fresh install06:36
abattoirpollyo: http://www.kde-look.org06:36
toko123this is a fresh install i'm working with06:36
pollyoabattoir: Thank you.06:36
Iwonder|toopollyo: look on kde site or in k control panel,themes get new themes06:37
intelikeyquick Q is it a bad idea to soak a celaron chip in alcahol ?06:37
intelikeytoko123 yes and less band width.06:37
pollyoIwonder|too: Under System settings?06:37
toko123intelikey: thanks06:38
pollyoIwonder|too: I do no see a control panel listed in the K06:38
intelikeytoko123 may i sujest a parallel installation.   not replacing the current but adding another until you see how well you like it.06:38
kubuntu22anyone here have any experience with beryl?  Everytime I start it it crashes on me06:38
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abattoir!beryl | kubuntu2206:38
ubotukubuntu22: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:38
Iwonder|toopollyo: perhaps k menu,settings?06:39
kubuntu22abattoir: thanks06:39
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kaihow do I find out what version of kubuntu am I running06:40
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Iwonder|toouse cat /etc/lsb-release06:40
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intelikeykai  lsb_release -a06:41
intelikey:)06:41
kaiIwonder|too: Thahnx06:41
kaiI just finish re-installing06:41
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kaimayb I can get my Ipod to work again06:42
jermainhi everyone06:43
jermain!japanese06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about japanese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
jermain!hiragana06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hiragana - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
LjL!jp06:43
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ubotu #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 06:43
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jermain:)06:43
=== grinreaaper hey in KCron when i try to enable the silent mode and savve shanges i get an error messege saying that "an error occured while saving the cron tab"
LjL!japanese is <alias> jp06:43
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL06:43
jermainwel my problem isnt really that i need a japanese chat06:43
jermainbut i wanna know how to06:43
grinreaaperwaht do i do?06:43
jermainwrite japanese charsa06:44
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jermainwithout having to change the locale of the os06:44
LjLjermain: well, the people in #ubuntu-jp will probably know, so perhaps try asking there in english (or japanese if you know it)06:44
jermaini'll try :)06:44
jermainthanks06:44
LjLjermain: anyway, i'd start with an "apt-cache search input method"06:44
jermain:o06:45
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grinreaaperalso when is kubuntu7.04 comming out?06:45
abattoirjermain: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Japanese_Input_and_Fonts_in_Ubuntu_7.0406:46
abattoirjermain: says it's for 7.04, so some instructions might not work, you can ask here, and someone should be able to point you towards the right direction06:46
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LjLgrinreaaper: april 19 is the expected date06:47
jermainabattoir: thnx ill look into that06:47
the_hammer!beyrl06:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beyrl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:47
the_hammer!beryl06:47
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:47
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kaiI need to run the x11 server to up my rez on my screen, its like dpkg-configure xorg right?06:49
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shawn34!DHT06:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dht - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:49
shawn34!dht06:49
shawn34hrm06:49
shawn34how do i enable dht in ktorrent, what is it for?06:49
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abattoirkai: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg06:50
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pirothezerothere a list the update manager makes when it installs packages like last packages installed list some where06:50
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jermainUgh looks hard06:51
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ubuntuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuttttttttttttttttttttttoooooooooooooooooooo06:51
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abattoirjermain: hmm, pretty sure i didn't go through all that....06:51
jermainabattoir: ^^ im afraid i might mess up something if i try stuff out06:52
jermaini feel like a matrix scene when i do ls -R /06:52
abattoirjermain: wait, let me see if i can recollect what i did exactly...06:52
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abattoir:)06:52
jermain^^06:52
kaiabattoir: Thanx06:53
ubuntuqualcuno che mi aiuta__06:53
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abattoirkai: no problem06:53
abattoir!es06:53
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:53
kaiGotta restart now06:53
abattoirhmmm.. or was that !it? :P06:54
abattoir!it06:54
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:54
ubuntuitaliani.......nulla06:54
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daquinoyessss..06:54
abattoiraah, scusi06:54
ubuntuecco...06:55
daquinohow are you???06:55
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ubuntucasino madornale sta cosa ma velocissimo...06:55
daquinohow are you there??06:55
abattoir!it | ubuntu06:55
ubotuubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:55
ubuntuehhhh..e come ci vado...06:55
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daquinogud day!!!06:56
daquinoto all of you..06:56
abattoirhello daquino06:56
abattoirto you too06:56
daquinohi!!06:56
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daquinohi abattoir!!06:56
jermainhi daq06:56
daquinohello!!06:57
jermain^^06:57
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daquinois this an italian room??06:57
superanteVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:57
jermain!it06:57
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:57
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jermain^^06:58
daquinogud day to all of you!!06:58
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jermainto you too!06:58
daquinohi jermain??06:58
daquinomabuhay!!06:58
abattoirjermain: all i have installed is scim, libscim8c2a, scim-qtimm, scim-modules-socket, scim-modules-table, scim-tables-ja06:58
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abattoirjermain: and of course a .UTF-8 locale, so i can read Japanese out-of-the-box06:59
daquinohiya abattoir??06:59
abattoirhi daquino, any kubuntu problem that we can try and help you with today? :)07:00
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daquinothanks for your concern abattoir..07:01
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jermainback sorry07:01
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daquinonothing...07:01
jermainabbatoir: reading japanese is no problem07:01
jermainbut i also want to be able to write letters or emails using japanese characters07:01
daquinoi have no problem with my set up..07:02
abattoirjermain: yeah, i think you should install the above mentioned packages, along with skim and libskim007:02
daquinoits all well..07:02
daquinothanks..07:02
abattoirdaquino: good to hear :)07:02
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jermainI'll give it a shot, thanks :)07:02
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abattoirjermain: then run 'skim' (it should go into your system tray)07:02
daquinothanks to you guys!!107:03
daquinoyoure all kind and accomodating..07:03
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kaiabattoir: can you give me that commanc one more time so I can write it down please07:03
abattoirjermain: then right click on the input box(mail text window, for example)->Select Input method->scim07:04
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daquinoif ever i have a problem with my set up ill type it here.. ok..07:04
daquinobye..07:04
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abattoirkai: sure, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' if you want to re-configure every aspect of X, not just the resolution07:04
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jermainooooo so THAT's what skim is for :)07:05
abattoirjermain: once you do that, you can now right click on the system tray icon, choose keyboard layout and enter away happily in hiragana, katakana, or kanji :)07:05
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jermainty ty ^^07:05
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abattoiractually left click07:05
jermainand if i want to go back07:05
jermaini just pick xim again right?07:06
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abattoirhmm... scim's what i use07:06
abattoiryou should probably see it after you install those packages07:06
jermainoh i allready have it07:06
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jermaini just never knew what it did07:06
jermain-.-07:06
kubuntu22!info Beryl07:07
ubotuPackage beryl does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas07:07
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ubotukubuntu22: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:08
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intelikeyskim - smart common input method platform for KDE07:10
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SubOneMy printers applet is missing from "System Settings" how can i get to it?07:18
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intelikeykcontrol07:20
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SubOneintelikey: not there either07:21
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SubOneI can't find any way to access my printers. I have no idea where they went, it was in there, now it's gone.07:25
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SubOnei guess i'll try a restart07:27
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Ace2016Hi all07:33
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Ace2016what would happen if you ran "sudo apt-get remove apt dpkg"?07:34
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Ace2016how would you install stuff?07:34
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intelikeyit would as you to type in "Yes, I know this is a bad idea"    or  "Yes, do as I say!"07:35
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intelikeyand if you did it would uninstall the whole system07:35
Ace2016really?07:35
Ace2016cool07:35
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D_Centhi07:37
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D_Centa friend gave me an USB-stick from microsoft with important data but my computer doesn't mount it. what can i do?07:38
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D_Centmy other stick does work07:39
intelikeyAce2016 now    sudo dpkg -P --force-all dpkg    on the other hand would ask no questions and simply remove dpkg and leave you without any way to install anything, unless you had already installed build-essential   then you could compile some things07:39
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SubOneI'm still not seeing any printer applet in "System Settings" or kcontrol07:40
Ace2016intelikey: well not really, you could just find the debs for apt and dpkg and extract it to the root file system, you might just get away with that07:40
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intelikeyAce2016 dpkg extract without dpkg       come on.07:40
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intelikeyapt does nothing without dpkg07:41
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psiscapeso, is Feisty really going to be released tomorrow?07:42
psiscapethe bug list looked pretty gruesome07:42
intelikeyAce2016 oh  you mean cpio extract the archived files     hmmmm07:43
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cloakableO.o07:43
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fdovingintelikey: it's pretty easy to install dpkg again after a dpkg -P. just extract the dpkg .deb to /07:44
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intelikeyfdoving yeah.07:45
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intelikeyfdoving what command would you use ?07:46
pollyoDo they have a theme-manager for kde?  Something that will auto download and install themes?  I just tried two themes from kde-look and neither worked.  I'm reading through and see nothing but trouble people are having in attemptint to install the various themese.07:47
fdovingintelikey, ace2016, 'apt-cache show dpkg|grep ^Filename', that'll give you something like pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.13.22ubuntu7_i386.deb, then add the mirror url to that, which makes up something like: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.13.22ubuntu7_i386.deb, wget it. then use 'ar xf dpkg_1.13.22ubuntu7_i386.deb', that'll result in 3 files; control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz and debian-binary, extracting the contents of data.tar.gz to / does it07:48
Ace2016pollyo: no, themes have to be compiled by you, or you have to get them in .deb form07:48
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pollyoAce2016: They need a package manager for themes. <grin>07:49
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Ace2016pollyo: i think kde4 will have one, ask in #kde07:50
fdovingintelikey, ace2016, then after unpacking dpkg you should 'apt-get install dpkg' to give dpkg a clue that itself is installed :)07:50
pollyoAce2016: Ok07:50
kubuntu22It'd definitely make sense to have one!07:50
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Ace2016yup, it would be much easier if new users didn't have to compile their own themes07:51
Ace2016plus it would be SO much easier to update themes07:51
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pavelhelo07:54
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Ace2016Hi all07:55
Ace2016an someone tell me a command that'll remove duplicate lines from a file07:55
Ace2016its a text file07:55
kaihow come when I run the xserver config It wont run the rez I want it to?07:56
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Ace2016kai: you mean sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?07:56
kaiyes07:56
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kaiI run it, I restart my computer but it never runs the rez I want it to and my when i scroll it looks all messed up, like it lags when I scroll07:57
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Ace2016kai: system specs? nvidia or ati drivers being used?07:59
kaii can't use those drivers, they kill my system07:59
Ace2016kai: have you tried editing xorg.conf manually? and are you sure the monitor supports the refresh rate?07:59
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Ace2016kai: so i'm guessing its ati, since nvidia users seem to have a pretty easy ride07:59
kaiwell it worked fine except when I reloaded ubuntu this time07:59
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kaiits nvdia08:00
Ace2016oh strange08:00
kaigeforce 5600go08:00
Ace2016updated to the latest drivers?08:00
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kaiMy video card is odd, its not support any more not even by nvidia08:00
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Ace2016i have a fx5200 yours isn't that old08:01
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pollyoI have the TNT208:01
kaiwhen I use the nvia drive it kills my comp08:02
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pavelhi people :)08:02
kaiI tried 4x and it killed my comp 4x08:02
Ace2016hi08:02
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Ace2016kai: well there isn't much point pushing the refresh rate up wihtout the drivers, since the cpu will be doing all the work, but if you want to, then edit xorg.conf08:03
Ace2016and make sure the refresh rate is correct08:03
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pavelI can use beryl with binary ati drivers, it is posoble?08:04
jhutchins!beryl | pavel08:05
ubotupavel: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:05
jhutchinspavel: Yes, if it's not broken for you.08:05
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pavelso, I use many helps on the internet but i Have one big problem. when I start  xgl server, it is slowly, I have Ati Radeon 960008:07
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pavelI used for help wiki pages of ubuntu08:10
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BadRabbit320where can i get "GOOD" info on getting my builotin Broadcom wireless to work in Feisty on a Compaq Presario laptop series v5305?  Tried several howtos online, but always get errors...yes, I AM a newbie to linux,but not to computers.08:12
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nixternalBadRabbit320: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:13
nixternallook through there for your device. more than likely you will have to use NdisWrapper to get it working08:14
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bobstroAce2016: you still looking to remove duplicates in your text file?08:16
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frojndhello what's the difference between ALSA and OSS sound device08:18
pavelALSA is better08:18
cloakableXD08:19
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frojndSo if I use ALSA outgoing conversations with skype will be more cleaner?08:20
frojndcause I have fealling that my microphone isn't working fine..08:20
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BadRabbit320nixternal...tried several  methods using ndiswrapper, installed thru synaptic, shows installede but can't get it to accept the windows drivers.08:23
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bobstroBadRabbit320: you extracted the windows files etc.?08:25
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bobstroBadRabbit320: that was the biggest problem i had (broadcom on dell laptop)08:25
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BadRabbit320again; newbie un linux, but as far as I can tell, they extracted...into /etc/src...08:29
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BadRabbit320not sure in linux just WHERE to extract things to.08:30
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cskjhey guys08:31
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cskji installed this thing kicker kick off n my panel disappeared08:32
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cskji uninstalled it n still they aren't there08:32
cskjwhat do i do??08:32
dettoaltrimentihi- when I use bchunk to convert bin/cue files to iso, it always makes 2 iso files- 1 is only a few bytes, the other is full size, and neither will properly mount08:32
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Ace2016dettoaltrimenti: they are not iso files08:32
aaroncampbellI thought I'd post this here, in case anyone has info on other options/better software.  It's simply my experience starting on Kubuntu (as a Web App Programmer): http://digg.com/linux_unix/A_Web_Developer_s_switch_to_Kubuntu_Feisty08:33
Ace2016dettoaltrimenti: one is a cue file the other is a bin file08:33
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Ace2016rename the extensions and then it'll mount08:33
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cskjok can anyone help with my prob now??08:33
aaroncampbellIncluding the things that I couldn't really "replace" with linux equivalents08:33
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Ace2016aaroncampbell: is that you?08:33
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aaroncampbellAce2016: yes sir08:34
ubuntuhello08:34
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dettoaltrimentiace2016- im trying to convert from bin/cue to iso08:34
Horscht86ok, how can i get a list of open WLAN networks?08:34
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Horscht86kubuntu recognizes my wlan card, but I dont know how to connect it to a network08:35
cskjdoesn't anyone know how to resolve my prob??08:35
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Ace2016dettoaltrimenti: but you said it produced a 2 files both with .iso, it shouldn't be like this, iso should be one large file08:37
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Ace2016dettoaltrimenti: why are you converting it?08:37
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mapuHorscht86 - one potentially easy way is to run wlanassistant08:39
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mapuit's a gui and it is possibly installed by default if you installed with the wifi card in the machine'08:39
dettoaltrimentiace2016- ok, so how do I mount bin/cue files in linux08:39
VSpikekdesktop_lock and nvidia-settings have both started crashing on me all of a sudden... can anyone tell me what I can do to track down the problem?08:39
dwidmannI've got a question, if anyone happens to know the answer. I've got 5.1 speakers. If I run speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6, when it tests the LFE channel, where should the sound come from?08:40
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Horscht86mapu, this  wlanassistant tool does not seem to be on this Live CD08:42
mapuok- looking to see what the "real" name is ..08:42
mapubrb08:42
Horscht86I am running winXP (not exactly, right now, running a kubuntu live CD)08:42
Ace2016dettoaltrimenti: i always use mountiso http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1157708:42
Ace2016dettoaltrimenti: think it also supports cue/bin files08:43
Horscht86and now i want to convert to Linux (kubuntu to be more exact), but I want to test it first using this live CD08:43
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Horscht86so i can find out wether my hardware is compatible08:43
cox377I've got an NTFS external HD08:43
cox377when i attach it via usb it says08:43
cox377an unknown error has occured08:43
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mapuHorscht86 - it's wlassistant08:44
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mapuI have been using linux on desktop for about 10-11 yrs.08:44
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VSpikeAnother wierd thing - when viewing new mail on my IMAP account with kmail, every so often (probably the 1 minute check interval), I see the new messages disappear one by one from the list and then reappear one by one.  It's very annoying!  Is that a config issue?08:44
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mapumy wife has been on windows until this weekend08:45
Horscht86ah, that onw does exist, thanks mapu08:45
mapugot a very bad virus- I put my foot down and she is now Kubuntu08:45
mapuI have found that it will sometimes fail to connect08:45
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mapuat which point- open a terminal and type "sudo ifdown <wirelss card>" and then "sudo ifup <wireless card>"08:46
mapuand that will usually do it08:46
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wolferinemapu what router?08:46
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maputypically I have been using a linksys08:47
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mapuif you are not "open" though, you may need to enter your WEP or WPA info into the wlanassistant08:47
wolferineok, ever have connection issues in the past?08:47
mapuI am actually running open08:47
mapuno- not really-08:48
wolferinehave you recently changed your setup?08:48
cox377how do i mount an external NTFS HD?08:48
mapuwife and daughter are wireless on the other side of the house08:48
wolferinewhether it be physically moving things around, or driver updates?08:48
bobstroaaroncampbell: you can run msie using wine easily with the ise4linux package. i've got msie 5.5 and 6 on my desktop (something tricky to do with windows).08:48
mapuI also use hyperwrt firwmare08:48
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wolferine!samba  | cox37708:48
ubotucox377: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:48
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cox377wolferine: samba for external HD's?08:49
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wolferinecox377, its one option08:49
wolferinebut writing to NTFS is an entirely different story08:50
cox377wolferine: i dont wanna write08:50
cox377just access the data off it08:50
wolferinethen that should be fine08:50
cox377wolferine: those links are aabout network shares08:50
cox377not external USB hdd;s08:50
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wolferineoh right, sorry08:51
wolferineim not focused atm08:51
thernymouscox377: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/08:51
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Horscht86btw, when running kbuntu from a LIVE CD, is it normal to screw up the image when turning up the resolution?08:52
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kingofproblemshi guys. having a problem installing kubuntu to my hardisk. im on the prepare moujnt points. i got 3 partitions sda1 with xp (media/sda1) sda2 with swap (swap) and sda3 with ext2 (/)08:53
kingofproblemsi hit continue but the program says no root file system08:53
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kingofproblemswhat im doing wrong?08:53
Ahmuckkingofproblems: are you manually editing ?08:54
kingofproblemsahmuck: yes08:54
bobstrokingofproblems: i had same issue.08:54
Ahmuckyou need to use the edit function and make sure the partition is labled as /08:54
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Ahmucki just went through this08:54
bobstroAhmuck: i had grief with that recently as well when installing to external USB.08:54
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Ahmuckthere is a drop down list that will allow you to do this on the manual prep page08:55
bobstroAhmuck: in my case, if i changed the ordering at all, it didn't like it. i repeatedly set the desired partition to / and it failed.08:55
Ahmuckbobstro: external USB, did you get it to work ?08:55
bobstroAhmuck: yes, but it was annoying. lots of hit & miss. i already had partitoins on /dev/hda, and was adding new /dev/hdb on removable usb.08:55
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kingofproblemsi re-labeled the partition-----  its ok now. thanks08:56
bobstroAhmuck: i'd have a hard time explaining exactly what i did. i think i went in to command line, blew away partitons on usb drive and created them with cfdisk, then backed up a few steps and installer took it.08:56
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kingofproblemsthe program should come with the instruction for that one. ive done this before. adn it was hard to find out.08:57
bobstroAhmuck: i recall creating filesystem too. it got confused if i attempted to create a new partition in installer.08:57
Ahmuckkingofproblems: you did get it though08:57
bobstrokingofproblems: i agree. it was frustrating.08:57
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Ahmuckkingofproblems: you have to remember, documentation, etc many things are done with volunteers.  write the instructions08:58
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kingofproblemsi had to kidnap my girlsfriends laptop!08:58
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bobstroAhmuck: i'd be happy to if i were sure of my solution! also, tricky for a newbie to do.08:58
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bobstroAhmuck: i guess it's actually a bug in installer.08:58
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dani__Sysinfo for 'debian': Linux 2.6.18-4-686 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPU6300@1.86GHz at 2344 MHz (4128 bogomips), , RAM: 19/20MB, 44 proc's, 19.42min up08:59
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hristoi want to tell: SUPER DUPER LINUX :) I dont want anymore windows :)09:02
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voicuhristo: that's great :D09:03
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hristo10nx m809:03
hristojust to ask09:03
voicuyou're on kubuntu?09:03
hristoyeas09:03
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hristoyes* :)09:03
hristovoicu i wan to ask u09:03
hristothe first time09:03
hristoi start09:03
hristokubuntu09:03
hristosome error message appear09:04
hristoand09:04
rarochelle_Anyone know of a site that lists some great apps for ubuntu/kubuntu?  Something better than sifting through 21,000 pkgs09:04
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hristothe second and the third time i start it09:04
hristokubuntu09:04
hristodont respond09:04
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voicurarochelle_: you can use "add/remove applications" to select programs and stuff09:04
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voicuhristo: what error message is that?09:05
hristoi dont notice :) i get used with windows09:05
hristo:(09:05
rarochelle_voicu: but with the universe repository enabled there's like 20,000...guess I'm just looking for a "top 20 apps" or somethin09:05
soulrider__!k3b09:05
voicurarochelle_: wait a sec09:05
soulrider__you can try getdeb.net09:05
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto09:05
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soulrider__kde-apps.org09:06
soulrider__!k3b09:06
soulrider__!mp309:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:06
voicuhristo: at what moment? after boot, before starting the graphical desktop?09:07
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voicuyou need to give some details09:07
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hristook i will see now09:08
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crazy_penguinnight allt09:09
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voicurarochelle_: maybe this could help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_KDE_applications09:10
Hc\\wtf09:11
hristovoicu09:11
hristowhat skype i have to download09:11
Hc\\why didnt my laptop read my kubuntu install cd?09:11
rarochelle_voicu: thanks09:11
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Hc\\can some1 explain me?09:11
voicuhristo: i think there should be a package built especially for ubuntu09:12
voicuwat09:12
voicu*wait09:12
bobstroHc\\: is it damaged? did you try on another computer?09:12
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voicu!skype09:12
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto09:12
voicuhristo: see that09:12
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AhmuckHc\\: ?09:13
hristo10nx voicu09:13
voicunp09:13
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Hc\\bobstro problem is09:13
Hc\\i cant09:13
Hc\\i got live for 64bit and 32bit09:13
AhmuckHc\\: does it boot live?09:14
Hc\\i installed my 64bit on my other desktop09:14
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Hc\\Ahmuck atleast at my desktop09:14
Ahmuckdoes your other desktop boot the 32bit live ?>09:14
Hc\\the 64bit one09:14
Ahmuckdoes it boot the 32 bit one ?09:14
Hc\\the 32bit is built same way09:14
Hc\\but doesnt boot09:14
Hc\\Ahmuck havent tried on this 109:14
Ahmuckyou built it, or downloaded the iso ?09:14
Ahmuckk, you need to try it on this one first09:15
Hc\\downloaded the iso09:15
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Hc\\n burned as img09:15
Ahmuckthey you will know if there is a problem with the disk09:15
daniSysinfo for 'debian': Linux 2.6.18-4-686 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPU6300@1.86GHz at 2342 MHz (4765 bogomips), , RAM: 16/16MB, 43 proc's, 9.3min up09:15
Hc\\hmm09:15
Hc\\desktop09:15
Hc\\cant be installed on a laptop?09:15
Ahmuckbooting live will not hurt your desktop, and will verify the disk is good09:15
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Ahmuckdesktop can be installed on the laptop09:16
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Hc\\ok good09:16
Hc\\hmm09:16
Hc\\imma try it on this09:16
wolf_xscd09:16
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Ahmuckthe other option is to use the alternate iso if you can't get this one to boot in your laptop after you have verified the disk is good09:16
Marlborosalve09:16
bobstrodani: why are you sending that?09:16
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daniwhat?09:16
Hc\\boot09:16
bobstrodani: the sysinfo. you keep sening the same thing.09:17
bobstroer, sending09:17
daniyes only for fun09:17
bobstrodani: ah fun. just imagine how stupidly useless this channel would be if everyone did that.09:17
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dani:P09:18
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daniSysinfo for 'debian': Linux 2.6.18-4-686 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPU6300@1.86GHz at 2342 MHz (4765 bogomips), , RAM: 16/16MB, 43 proc's, 12.25min up09:18
bobstrodani: what's next? blather about what songs you're listening to? local weather?09:19
danionly 16mb ram!09:19
bobstroSFW?09:19
bobstroare you asking a question or what?09:20
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Hc\\back on laptop09:21
Hc\\abd it boots at my other desktop09:21
Hc\\Ahmuck any idea whats wrong?09:22
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AhmuckHc\\: how old is your laptop?09:24
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Hc\\umm09:24
Hc\\idk09:24
Hc\\i can paste specs of this09:24
Hc\\if its ok?09:24
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Hc\\(CPU 1) Intel Pentium M processor 1.60GHz (2048KB L2 Cache, X1) @ 1600MHz (100MHz FSB), 0% load09:25
Hc\\(CPU1) Intel Pentium M processor 1.60GHz @ 1600MHz (ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A6G mainboard) (RAM) 512MB, 166.38MB free (HDDs) 32.4GB, 21.4GB free09:26
Hc\\(VGA1) ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9700 (64MB), 1280x800x32, 60Hz (OS) Microsoft Windows XP Professional (SP2), 12m 18s uptime, 14h 15m 26s uptime record09:26
Hc\\there09:26
posingaspopular!enter09:26
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:26
Hc\\Ahmuck any idea?09:26
Ahmuck!easysource09:27
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:27
Hc\\umm?09:28
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v6lurProblem: can't transfer anything to Acme v400x mp4-player from my Kubuntu laptop... (although on its box, there is noted that it supports "Linux 2.4")09:30
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v6lurbasically, it just "disconnects" at the beginning of transfer and bagins to charge its battery (it's fully loaded already!)09:30
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kingofproblemsi dont get it. i updated kubuntu. restarted and i get error 17 on grub09:30
kingofproblemsive pased grub before.09:31
bobstrokingofproblems: are the drives pointed to in grub correct?09:31
kingofproblemshow can i see that?09:31
bobstrokingofproblems: highlight an option and press 'e', then compare to what they should be (e.g. root).09:32
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Hcpfff09:32
v6lurtried at a friend's windows-machine, and worked ok there - although, the songs transfered tend to "jump" (don't know a good english word here)09:32
bobstrokingofproblems: i updated my laptop, and for some reason, those got broken in the process.09:32
Hcstarts windows again -.-09:32
bobstroHc: do other cds boot ok?09:32
Hcbobstro yes09:32
hristovoicu are u here m809:32
kingofproblemsi dont get a chasne to press esc. it goes directly to error 1709:32
Hcon this comp it works fine09:32
bobstroHc: an you're trying the 32bit version?09:32
Hcbobbyd__09:32
bobstroHc: trying to boot 32 bit?09:32
Hcbobstro yes09:32
Hctried 64 bits too09:33
Hcdidnt work either09:33
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voicuhristo: yeah09:33
voicuwhat09:33
hristoo09:33
hristohow i can09:33
hristoinstall wine09:33
bobstroHc: hmm. nothing comes to mind. did you try safe mode and such?09:33
hristoon kubuntu09:33
Horscht8603:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI <- is this wireless card/chipset supported?09:33
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voicuhristo: open a konsole09:33
hristoyes09:33
voicuand write sudo apt-get install wine09:34
voicugive your password09:34
Hcbobstro nop09:34
Hchow to do it?09:34
voicuand that should be it09:34
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hristook voicu09:34
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hristoi will paste09:34
hristowhat appears09:34
hristook ?09:34
rob-westis KDE4 out yet09:34
chijinnope09:34
bobstroHc: i can't do it right now, but i believe there are safe boot options you can try. or are you even getting to boot options?09:34
voicuhristo: don't paste here09:34
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hristowhere ?09:34
hristoi am not reg09:34
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voicuanyway, you should paste in case you get error09:34
voicus09:34
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kingofproblemsanyone. errror 17 at grub. what does it mean?09:35
chijin!paste | hristo09:35
ubotuhristo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:35
hristoits erroe yeah09:35
voicuhristo: paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:35
hristoPackage wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:35
hristoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:35
hristois only available from another source09:35
hristoE: Package wine has no installation candidate09:35
kingofproblemsive restarted the program before and the grub functioned normaly09:35
Hcgreat09:35
Hchow stupid of me09:35
voicuhristo: that means you need to activate the universe repository09:35
Hcforgot to put to boot from cd -.-09:35
voicuopen an admin editor09:35
hristowhat u talk to me man :P hh i cant isntall wine09:35
voicuALT+F2 and write 'kdesu kate'09:35
rob-west!kde409:35
ubotuFor information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org09:36
hristowhere is that09:36
hristok>09:36
Hcthx bobstro09:36
Hc=)09:36
bobstrokingofproblems: i did a quick google, and what i posted before looks like it might be on track.09:36
hristovoicu: where is that09:36
voicuhristo: ALT+F2, write 'kdesu kate'09:36
bobstroHc: maybe you should boot windows. :)09:36
voicuthat will open kate would admin privileges09:36
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Hcbobstro i booted computer09:36
voicuso you can edit the sources file for apt09:37
kingofproblemsbut it done allow me to press esc to edit... it does the error before the menu09:37
Hcbut forgot to check from where it boots09:37
voicuhristo: open in kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:37
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hristovoicu: its says wrong password09:37
kubuntu22So is feisty being released tomorrow?09:37
voicuhristo: then type in the right one :P09:38
hristovoicu: aa open09:38
amidudeanyone getting xserver restarts running opengl apps on edgy? (ie blender 2.42, 2.43)09:38
v6lurideas, help anyone?09:38
jhutchinskubuntu22: Current schedule says Thursday, assuming they got last week's mess cleaned up.09:38
hristovoicu: is this a notepad :P09:38
kubuntu22jhutchins: cool.09:38
bobstrokingofproblems: ah ok. a bit different than what i had. i'm perusing google results.09:38
voicuhristo: yeah, just that has lots of features09:39
voicueditor for anything actually09:39
hristoso i write it09:39
voicunot *anything* but many stuff :P09:39
hristoand go to the next row09:39
kingofproblemsit apeared now09:39
kingofproblemsstrange09:39
voicuhristo: huh? open the file /etc/apt/sources.list09:39
bobstrokingofproblems: check out http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml and remember what i said before!09:40
kingofproblemsok im gonna read09:40
hristook09:40
bobstrokingofproblems: not much to it. no idea *WHY* it happened though, but there ya go.09:40
bobstrokingofproblems: compare what's in boot lines to actual partitions.09:40
hristovoicu: in this editor i wirte /etc/apt/sources.list09:40
hristoand click enter09:41
voicuyes09:41
hristonothing happens09:41
voicuor you could navigate through the directories... whatever09:41
hristonothing happens09:41
voicudude, file->open->/etc/apt/sources.list09:41
hristoi mean09:41
hristoaa sry09:41
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hristothen09:42
hristo...09:42
voicuyou got something that looks like #deb http://blabla.org/ ?09:42
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hristoyeap but its com :P09:42
voicuif so, uncomment (that is delete the '#' sign) the lines that start with #deb09:42
hristo# deb http://bg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe09:43
hristo# deb-src http://bg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe09:43
voicuonly the ones with a link09:43
voicuyeah09:43
voicudelete the #09:43
hristodelete it09:43
hristotwo of it09:43
voicuonly 2?09:43
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hristo609:43
voicuoh09:43
voicuyeah09:43
voicugood09:43
voicunow save09:43
hristodelete 609:44
hristoand save ok09:44
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hristonow09:44
voicuand in the konsole write 'sudo apt-get update'09:44
voicuafter that you will have a large list of packages, including wine09:44
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hristothats it ?09:45
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sdlnxgkNight everyone gotta get some sleep.. hate working 11pm to 7am at times... Night !!!09:45
voicuhristo: that will enable you to install wine09:45
hristoupdate complete09:45
voicuyou need to sudo apt-get install wine again09:45
hristoi write09:45
hristoagain09:46
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hristo:(09:46
hristopackage wine09:46
hristois09:46
hristonot available09:46
voicuno way09:46
voicuwait09:46
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voicuyou probably didn't do something right09:47
voicuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:47
hristoof course09:47
hristo:)09:47
voicupaste there the sources.list file09:47
voicuand give me the link09:47
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voicuhristo: you can read it without admin privilegees09:48
hristook ok09:48
hristow809:48
hristo:)09:48
hristowhat syntax09:48
voicudoesn't matter09:49
voicuthat just for syntax highlighting09:49
voiculike when posting a C++ program09:49
hristook09:49
hristojust to test09:49
hristosomething09:49
hristoone guys09:49
hristotell me to09:49
hristowrite09:49
hristosudo apt-get upgrade09:49
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voicuhristo... you could that but that won't install wine09:50
voicuthat will update your already installed packages09:50
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voicubut considering it cannot find wine, you didn't enable the correct repositories09:51
hristow809:51
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BadRabbit320hristo>wine IS available.  in synaptic type 'wine' into the search box.  run the update list first.09:52
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Dunpealre09:52
hristowhat09:53
hristoseacrh box09:53
voicuhristo: if you are using kubuntu, open adept09:53
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voicubut you said it cannot find it so i don't see how that would work09:54
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BadRabbit320dunpeal is right about repositories09:54
hristoof how to register nick to go to private09:54
hristoi am so stupid :(09:54
BadRabbit320add multiverse and seveas repositories09:54
hristohow to open this adept09:54
hristowith alt+f209:54
hristo?09:54
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voicuthe menu09:55
hristothen09:55
Dunpealforget it! bye09:55
voicuor ALT+F2 and write 'adept_manager'09:55
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voicuhristo: menu->system09:55
hristook i oppen it09:56
voicusearch for wine09:56
voicuand if it finds it, right click and install09:56
BadRabbit320or...K, system, Adept package Manager09:56
hristonothing appears when i search for wine09:57
BluesKaj!wine09:57
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:57
voicuyep, that was obvious09:57
BluesKaj!winehttp://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb09:57
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voicui said you need to enable the repositories09:58
BadRabbit320after i put wine on mine, some programs disappeared from several menus09:58
hristoi will download it09:58
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voicuok, but it's a good idea to use apt-get09:59
hristobut09:59
voicunot 100% necessary09:59
hristou see nothing happens09:59
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hristobut 10nx for09:59
hristoeverything guys09:59
hristoi will return with problem install :P10:00
voicudid you delete the # for the lines that start with #deb?10:00
voicuthat should have worked10:00
hristoyes10:00
hristoi delete 6 rows10:00
voicuok10:00
voicuand did apt-get update work?10:00
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cloakableDoes anyone know of a way to get dhclient to notice a change in it's conf file?10:01
hristoyes10:02
hristosome updates10:02
hristoapper10:02
hristoappear*10:02
hristobut10:02
hristowas10:02
hristolike for 25-30 seconds10:02
voicuok, good10:02
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voicutry sudo apt-get install wine10:02
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voicuit _has_ to work10:03
voicufor anyone10:03
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hristovoicu paste here10:03
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hristoi think10:04
hristoits really bad now10:04
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voicu??10:04
hristohristo@hristo-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install wine10:04
hristoE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:04
hristoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:04
voicuoh10:04
voicuclose adept10:04
jbrouhardOkay.. Anyone tell me how to disable the KDE login, and use console login only ??10:04
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voicuyou cannot install with two programs at once10:04
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hristoi think its closed10:05
hristowhere is this10:05
hristoadept10:05
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hristoits10:05
hristooppent10:05
hristoopend10:05
voicudidn't you open adept?10:05
hristobut i cant find10:05
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voicumaybe you changed the desktop?10:06
voicuor something10:06
jbrouhardhristo: try in a konsole window: ps aux | grep adept10:06
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hristook i close it10:06
jbrouhardNM then10:06
voicunow, apt-get install again10:06
hristojbrouhard: 10nx anyway10:06
jbrouhard:)10:07
hristothe same thing10:07
hristohm10:07
hristoi am big NOOB10:07
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voicuok10:07
voicupaste the file on paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:07
hristohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16013/10:08
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voicuah10:09
voicuyou meant the same error10:09
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voicuthen do what jbrouhard said10:09
BadRabbit320hristo> i couldn't get wine using the 'sudo apt-get install wine' routine either until I added the seveas repositories10:09
voicups -A|grep adept10:09
voicuhristo: what output do you get?10:10
hristohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16013/10:10
hristoops10:10
hristow810:10
hristo5254 ?        00:00:02 adept_notifier10:10
voicuok then10:10
voicusudo kill 525410:10
voicuto close it10:10
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voicu(you need sudo because it's started as admin)10:11
hristonotnig appears now10:11
voicuyeah10:11
voicunow apt-get again10:11
voicuit should work10:11
hristoHahahaha10:11
hristothe sam error10:11
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hristodamn (sry for the language)10:11
voicuthe same about the lock?10:11
hristoyes10:11
voicuthen ps -A|grep apt10:11
hristook i will restart10:11
hristoaa ok10:12
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hristo672810:12
hristoi dont know whats this10:12
voicukill it10:12
voicusudo kill 672810:12
hristodone10:12
voicuok, now? :D10:12
voicuapt-get install..10:12
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hristow810:13
hristohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16014/10:13
hristolook10:14
voicuaw geez10:14
hristoupgrade ?10:14
voicupost the sources.list file to see what you have there10:14
voicuupgrade doesn't help10:14
voicuit just upgrades the packages you already have10:14
hristosudo /etc/apt/source.list10:14
hristo?10:14
hristosources10:14
hristo*10:14
voicui advise you to do that but not now:P10:14
hristook10:15
voicuuh, well, open it in kate or something and copy paste it10:15
hristowhat about the soucres10:15
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voicuyou can open it without admin privileges10:15
voicujust from the menu10:15
voicuit's read only10:15
hristohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16015/10:16
voicuhmm10:16
hristow8 i have to go to the bath10:16
hristo:)10:16
voicudid you use the source-o-matic?10:16
voicuok10:16
voicuhave fun10:16
voicu:P10:16
hristohere10:18
voicuok then10:18
hristo:)10:18
hristosource o matic10:18
hristono10:18
voicuthe thing you don't have the universe lines in there10:18
voicuare you sure that all you have?10:18
hristoyes10:18
voicuwait, did you delete the entire lines or just the # sign?10:18
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hristoentire10:19
voicuhehe10:19
hristois that a problem10:19
voicuok wait a bit10:19
voicuyeah, you should have left the line without the # sign10:19
hristooh10:19
voicuto enable that specific repository10:20
hristonow what10:20
voicui'll give you a complete file10:20
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hristook10:20
hristobut i am in bg10:20
hristois that a problem10:20
hristo?10:20
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sdfi want to know how can i install pppoe server in fedora core 6?10:22
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sdfhelp10:22
angasule!flash10:22
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:22
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash10:22
voicuhristo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16016/10:22
voicuyou can use that just as it is10:22
sdfhelp10:22
hristooo neighbour :P10:23
voicubeing from bg won't stop you from downloading from ro10:23
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voicuyeah :D10:23
Ahmuck!easysource10:23
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic10:23
hristovoicu: replace everything10:23
hristo?10:23
voicubut if you want you can change the ro.archive in bg.archive10:23
voicumaking it faster10:23
voicuhristo: yes10:23
sdfhow can i install pppoe in fedora core 6 ?10:23
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sdfhelp10:23
voicuAhmuck: let him learn, it will help him later10:23
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voicuoh shit10:24
hristovoicu: ok i save it10:24
voicuhristo: are on dapper?10:24
hristodapper ?10:25
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voicuyes, you are10:25
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voicui'm on a different version10:25
hristois that good10:25
hristoopsy10:25
hristo:)10:25
hristohahaha10:25
voicuchange the edgy part in the links to dapper10:25
voicuthat's all10:25
hristoexample ?10:25
hristoplease10:25
voicubg.archive.org ... edgy ... -> bg.archive.org ... dapper ...10:25
voicueverything else is the same10:26
hristook i save it10:27
voicusudo apt-get update10:28
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voicusudo apt-get install wine10:28
voicu*fingers crossed* :D10:28
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voicuif update gives some errors never mind them..10:28
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hristoYEAAAAAAAAAAAA10:30
hristo:)10:30
hristo0% of insstall10:30
hristo1010:31
hristo:)10:31
voicuhehe10:31
hristo%10:31
voicuok then10:31
hristooo thank u thank u10:31
hristo:))))10:31
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hristoso10:31
voicuyou can try the 'add/remove programs' in K menu10:31
voicuit has lots of programs10:31
voicuno problem10:31
hristoone more question :)10:31
hristoskype10:31
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hristoi download it10:31
hristo:)10:31
hristoand its on my desktop10:31
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voicuwas it a .deb file?10:32
hristoskype for debian i down10:32
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voicuyou can try sudo dpkg -i "~/Desktop/file.deb"10:33
voicuyou change file.deb with your file10:33
sdfhow can i  compile c++ program in   kubuntu?10:33
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sdfand what is the best compiler for c++ in kubuntu?10:33
voicusdf: g++ -o file file.cpp10:33
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voicu-o file will make the resulting file to whatever you wish10:34
sdfwhare can i find the pacage of g++?10:34
voicuelse it will create a file called "a.out"10:34
voicusudo apt-get install g++10:34
voicuor in adept, synaptic10:34
voicuetc10:34
voicuit's in the development section10:34
voicui think10:34
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sdfE: Couldn't find package g10:35
sdfthis is result10:35
sdfwhat do i do?10:35
voicuput "g++"10:35
sdfi don t understand10:36
sdfbe clear10:36
voicuinstead of g++ write "g++"10:36
sdfok10:36
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voicubecause the interpreter splits 'g' from '++'10:36
sdfi get the same result10:37
sdfE: Couldn't find package g10:37
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voicuwell it works for me10:38
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voicudid you write in konsole?10:38
voicuwhat interpreter do you have?10:38
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makihow can i make the mic to turn on if some app need it10:41
hristovoicu: its says its locked10:41
hristoby anoter prgores10:42
hristops -a|grep apt ?10:42
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voicuyes10:43
voicukill everything that has any connection with packages10:43
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voicuyou could try ps -A10:43
hristonothing have connection10:43
voicuoh, it's a big -A10:43
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hristoyes with big A10:43
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mikeyhi all10:43
hristohi10:43
voicuwrite ps -A and see if you find anything10:43
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hristooooo 100000 procces10:44
mikeygot a problem printing pdf's using Kpdf.  Prints are cutting off the right side of the page.  Happens on 2 different printers10:44
mikeyany ideas?10:45
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voicusorry, no experience with printers, especially on linux10:46
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hristovoicu: i have 100000000000000 procces :)10:46
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hristowhat to do10:46
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voicuhristo: well, just look for something like apt, adept, aptitude, synaptic etc10:47
voicuworst case scenario: reboot :P10:47
hristoi will do10:47
hristorestart10:47
hristobut10:47
hristoone fast10:47
hristoquestion10:47
voicu?10:48
hristowhere is my other partition10:48
hristoon the hard disk10:48
voicuoh10:48
hristois this fast question10:48
hristo?10:48
voicuhehe10:48
voicuit can be 2min or 3010:48
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hristook make it 15 :P10:48
hristobrb10:48
voicudo you know which harddisk it's on?10:49
hristoi have only master10:49
hristoharddisk10:49
voicuok, so one hd10:49
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hristook brb10:49
voicuwhat partition is it?10:49
hristow810:49
hristoto see10:49
voicuthe first, second10:49
hristoi think the third10:49
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voicuok, then your partition should be hda310:50
hristohda310:50
hristoyes10:50
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voicusudo mkdir /media/hda310:50
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voicuis it ntfs, fat32?10:50
hristoi think ntfs but today tolds me10:51
hristoonly fat 3210:51
hristoon linux10:51
hristontf no read10:51
hristo:P10:51
voicunah, you can use ntfs too10:51
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hristoi want10:51
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hristoonly10:51
hristohda210:51
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voicuthe thing is you should only read10:51
hristofor10:51
hristodownloads10:51
hristoread what ?10:52
voicuread as opposed to writing on it10:52
voicuif you change a file or something on ntfs you might break it10:52
hristoi see hda1 but it dont oppen10:52
hristoooo10:52
hristothats dangerous ?10:52
voicuit's just not guaranteed to work :P10:52
voicuso yeah10:53
voicuis /media/hda3 working?10:53
hristouf10:53
hristoyes10:53
hristohda1 nope10:53
voicuhda1 is the / directory10:53
voicuprobably10:53
hristolook this10:53
hristohristo@hristo-desktop:~$ sudo mkdir /media/hda310:53
hristohristo@hristo-desktop:~$10:53
voicuok10:54
voicuthen try sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda3 /media/hda310:54
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voicu!ntfs10:54
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:54
voicuhristo: try reading that, it might explain better10:55
voicuand i have to go anyway10:55
hristobash: !ntfs: event not found10:55
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voicuno, click the link10:55
voicuwhat ubotu said10:55
hristoa ok10:55
hristo10nx10:55
voicunp10:55
hristoaa voicu10:55
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hristocan i install windows now10:56
hristojust for downloading10:56
voicuyou can download on ubuntu too10:56
hristowhat for10:56
voicutorrents or what?10:56
hristothey shippit to me :P10:56
hristoyes10:56
voicuktorrent10:57
angasuleis there a way to be root through fish? I need root access to copy some files10:57
hristoktorrent i see10:57
voicuit's as good as any client10:57
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hristobut this problem with the hard10:57
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hristoi cannot trust it :(10:57
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voicumake it ext310:57
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hristoi can download files over 4 gb right10:57
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voicuyeah10:57
hristoso how to make it or read the file10:58
voicu?10:58
hristohow to make it ext310:58
voicuangasule: what does fish do?10:58
hristoa sry10:58
nuxilis it worth installin 7.04 ?10:58
bobstroangasule: is root login allowed, or forced commands?10:59
angasulevoicu: it lets you access another computer's files as if they were local, you only need an ssh server running on the remote machine10:59
voicuhristo: you gave to format it10:59
angasulebobstro: it's kubuntu with default sudo behaviour10:59
hristooo man10:59
angasulewhich means no root password10:59
hristoagain10:59
voicu:)10:59
hristo150 gb again10:59
hristonooo10:59
hristo:)10:59
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voicuangaulse: can't you enable the root password?11:00
hristook m811:00
bobstroangasule: unless your user can read those files, i don't see how.11:00
hristovoicu: 10000nx 10nx 10nx for everyting11:00
hristovoicu: i have to go now :)11:00
voicunp11:00
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hristovoicu: tommorow i will chek out u :P11:00
voicuhmm, i'm not sure if i'll be online11:01
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voicubusy day :D11:01
hristoaa ok11:01
hristo:)11:01
hristonp11:01
voicumaybe in the evening11:01
hristothen the day after tomorrow11:01
hristo:)11:01
voicuhehe11:01
hristofast question11:01
voicuok11:02
hristobefore leavein11:02
hristo:)11:02
voicushoot11:02
hristonope11:02
hristono no11:02
hristoi will be ok11:02
hristo:)11:02
hristook bye neighbour :)11:02
voicubye11:02
hristoGood night all11:02
hristo10nx for everything Kubuntu rulz :)11:02
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kaiwhere can I find a repositoires list?11:03
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Sanne!easysource | kai11:04
ubotukai: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:04
voicukai: i think all the official ubuntu repos are in sources.list already. you could search on google11:04
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Sannekai: you can also use that to look at possible sources.list entries11:04
kaiwell there was a website I had found but I can't find it again, it had stuff I never heard of11:05
Sannekai: check out my link, maybe it's listed11:05
kaisure, I just opened the site11:06
voicu!dvd11:06
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs11:06
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Sannekai: and generally, use a bit of care regarding unofficial repositories.11:06
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kaiSanne: i shall, whats the deal w/ thos anyway?11:07
Sannekai: what do you mean?11:07
erz-i try to use dcop ... but it said me couldn't attach DCOP server ...11:07
kaiif there harmful why would you use them?11:07
Sannekai: they are mostly not harmful, but theoretically they may be. just like stuff you download from the net generally.11:08
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voicukai: that's the idea, you don't always know if they or not, so be careful :P11:08
voicu*they are11:08
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kaiim tryin to learn this stuff11:08
Sannekai: often those are repositories from ubuntu enthusiansts who are nice enough to make packages they have built for themselves available to the community.11:09
kaibut I won't use it often once I get it to work and 4get how to do it again11:09
kaigimme a moment11:09
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Sannekai: but it's better to stick to the official repositories for now, if you can, especially if you're new.11:10
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Sannekai: a good resource top start learning about software and packages is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement11:11
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kaiSanne: where can i go to learn commands11:12
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Sannekai: the link I gave in my last statement is good, and also read through the help documents you have under KMenu->Help (I hope it's still there... I'm not on the latest Kubuntu), especially the Kubuntu Desktop Guide.11:14
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kaiu wrote all that?11:15
Sannekai: who? me? no way. That's all from the fine contributors of our ubuntu community.11:15
kaiSanne: oh lol11:16
Sanne:)11:16
kaiSanne: lemme ask you this11:16
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Sannekai: yes?11:17
shawn34errr11:17
shawn34can't get cnn videos working11:17
kaiSanne: I have an ipod I was able to get to wokr, but I had to find what dev it was one to mount it and use it on amarok11:17
shawn34says i have to install the player11:17
kaiSanne: ...any suggetsions11:18
shawn34any ideas?11:18
kaiSome one helped me do it I was able to mount it and everything but when I re-installed I can't mount it anymore11:18
Sannekai: oh, sorry, I don't have an ipod. Can anybody help?11:18
kai..and I don't know what partition it or the command that I used to find it11:18
Sannekai: what type of device is it? USB?11:19
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TheDebuggerHmm11:21
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TheDebuggerMy ipod was recognised by amarok, just had to chose the driver in amarok's preferences11:22
kaiyes11:22
TheDebuggerI got a nano 1Go11:22
TheDebugger*gb11:22
kaii got a nano 4gb11:22
TheDebuggerkai: Whenyou connect it, does it appear on the desktop?11:22
kaiit recoginzed but I didn't know tha mount point, even tho I thought I did11:22
kaiyes11:22
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TheDebuggerThen, just go in amarok's prefs11:23
TheDebuggerMedia Devices, and choose "Apple Ipod" in the combobox11:23
bobstroangasule: i just realized i've got the same issue. just disabled root login via ssh and now need r/w to various things via fish.11:23
bobstroangasule: i'm thinking allow with key is way to go.11:23
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kaiwhat about the mount points and everything11:24
TheDebuggerkai: Why do you care?11:24
TheDebuggerJust choose the driver for the autodetected device11:24
TheDebuggerHAL does its job for mounting11:24
kaiso I can use my ipod11:25
kaiTheDebugger: when i setup it didnt work like that11:25
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kairight now when i plugged it in it didn't show up11:26
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TheDebuggerhmm11:27
kaiTheDebugger: I just re-installed11:27
shawn34can kaffeine play embedded video or just lauch in a seperate window outside the browser?11:28
Sannekai: you could open a konsole and monitor the system log. It should tell you something when you plug in your device. In the konsole, type: tail -f /var/log/syslog          , then watch what it sais when you plug in your ipod.11:28
kaiTheDebugger: it ddin't see it, or anything, that what i don't get11:28
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kaiit  says generic sg011:29
josh_i find a lot of times when installing software via adept manager, it does not show up in the KMenu... is there a workaround for this?11:29
kaiand gives me partition sda0, sda1, sda211:30
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Sannekai: at least it gets recognized. But at this point I really have to refer you to somebody else, as I don't know either amarok nor ipods :)11:31
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kaiSanne: its all good, Im goin over seas for 1.5 yrs, I wanna get it to work b4 I leave11:32
mrigns!ping11:32
ubotupong11:32
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Sannekai: good luck :)11:34
compilerwriter!pong11:34
ubotupong is an old atari game. It's fun!11:34
compilerwriter!ping11:34
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prakdoes anyone know how to add the repository for adobe software?11:41
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TheDebugger?11:42
jhutchins!locate icpld11:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about locate icpld - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:42
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jhutchins!find icpld11:42
ubotuPackage/file icpld does not exist in edgy11:43
TheDebuggerThere are 2 free linux softwares for linux.. acroread and flashplugin-nonfree11:43
TheDebugger( afaik )11:43
prak!acroread11:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acroread - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:43
TheDebugger!medibuntu11:43
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/11:43
TheDebugger:)11:43
prakdoes anyone know how to add the repository for adobe software?11:44
prakor running scripts?11:44
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TheDebuggerYou're not clear at all11:44
praknvm11:44
prakproblem solved11:44
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shawn34[mplayer/firefox plugin]  when video starts its not centered... i have to go fullscreen, then switch back to get a centered video.. any ideas?11:50
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kaiSanne: that command you gave me hlpe me get my ipod working again11:52
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Sannekai: oh! That is cool, congrats :)11:54
Pollywoghas anyone tried the upgrade from Edgy to Feisty and did it work?11:54
Pollywogthe one in topic11:54
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lookazookaPollywog: it worked for me11:55
Pollywogtnx11:55
kaiSanne: ...so how often are you doing real in depth commands?11:55
PollywogI will try it on one machine11:55
Sannekai: just a sec, I'm helping a person on another channel :)11:55
kaiok11:55
BadRabbit320Pollywog> i did the upgrade; worked for me (and I'm a linux noob)11:56
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compilerwriterWould there be any reason for Kontackt to act stupid after a change from kdm to gdm?12:05
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kaiSanne: how do you change channels?12:06
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Thasshello12:08
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Sannekai: you can type: /join #channelname12:08
lookazookakai: ctrl+j ?12:08
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kaisanne is there a listing?12:09
mneisenHow do I remove an old kernel after a kernel upgrade? (upgrade was done via apt-get dist-upgrade).12:09
mneisenthanks in advance.12:09
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Sannekai: I'm using xchat as my chat client, it has a menu function to list channels. I believe it's just another irc command, but I don't know what to type.12:10
kaiits a package?12:11
kaiis there like a programmers on?12:11
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Sannekai: yes, xchat (not xchat-gnome) is a package you could install. Youneed to enable the universe repositories.12:12
lookazookaI'm having a problem with the audio: it looks like muted. My card is an audigy2, and it used to work perfectly. Now when I restart I have always to see if PCM is 100%, ALSA is set to unmuted... why?12:12
kaiSanne: Thats already done12:12
Sannekai: the universe enable?12:12
kaiSanne: I odn't mess around w/ that stuff12:12
kaiyea12:12
Sannekai: then you could install xchat. It's a gtk application that will pull a bit of libraries, though. If you don't mind that, you can type: sudo apt-get install xchat12:13

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