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Tm_Thi kids12:08
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Tm_Tanyone here remember where in website that expo kit was?12:15
Tm_Tand most importantly, how to get one :p12:15
beunohm, jenda knows, but he's out partying somewhere  :D12:16
beunoI'd recommend you send an email to the mailing list12:17
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Tm_Tbeuno: yes thanks, I think it's time to join that one too =)12:18
beuno:D12:18
Tm_TI'm already in, well, too many12:18
beunoyes, it's hard to keep that under control12:18
Tm_Tyeah, good that gmail can hold big amount of mail12:19
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Tm_Toh boy, some work to do to get release party organised and so on12:24
Tm_TI wonder if I should be in -loco too12:27
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nixternalhey, anyone know that helios from the tux500 joke?04:50
Burgundavianope04:50
Burgundaviaalthough the lobby for linux people appear to have a slightly inflated idea of their own importance04:51
nixternalya04:51
nixternalthey emailed me threatening me and calling me pathetic04:51
Samyel?04:51
nixternalI replied, and it wasn't nice04:51
Samyelwho are the lobby for linux people? 04:52
Burgundavianixternal: care to forward me the email?04:52
nixternalyou know what, I don't need this shit man. this joke of a person emails me with that crap04:52
Samyel<-- newbie04:52
nixternalBurgundavia: yes04:52
boredandbloggingyeah, what are we talking about here?04:52
Burgundaviathat linux on racecar thingy04:52
nixternalBurgundavia: You've Got Mail!04:54
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boredandblogginglol, interesting04:55
nixternalpart 1, part 2, and the rated R part 304:55
nixternalit is funny, these people who run that crap have "donate money to my pocket" buttons everywhere04:56
boredandbloggingnixternal, why are they threatening you?04:56
nixternalboredandblogging: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-marketing/2007-April/001840.html04:56
nixternalyou can see I was actually starting to support the idea, then I wasn't sure if I trusted it04:57
nixternalnow I hope it fails, and everyone donated a starbucks coffee for an ubuntu sticker on a lugnut04:57
boredandbloggingahh, now I remember04:58
nixternalomg04:58
nixternalthey are going to sponsor a car by a guy with 1 finish04:58
nixternalin the indy 50004:58
nixternalthey have a driver who don't even know what it is like to win, he just knows how to lose04:59
boredandbloggingouch!04:59
nixternalhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stphane_Grgoire05:01
nixternalyay for them05:01
Samyelthe trouble with basing your marketing on competative things is that it's very easy to attach "loser" to your name...05:02
Burgundaviapretty much05:02
Samyelwithout that having anything to do with your actual product05:02
Samyelbut if the car you're using to market yourself tanks out in an embarassing way, people will associate "flaming failure" with your name.05:02
adamant1988nixternal: Why were you threatened? 05:03
Burgundavia35000 is also a lot of money05:03
Burgundavia350000, rather05:03
adamant1988A lot of money that COULD have been spent on the development of free software05:03
SamyelOr a lot of money that could be divided into safer marketing endeavours05:03
SamyelBut I'm not a gambler. :)05:04
Burgundaviayou could pay several developers for a full year on that05:04
BurgundaviaSamyel: why exactly are we violating the 3m rule05:04
Burgundavia?05:04
adamant1988I would have preferred the software route, I could really use a decent photoshop alternative, I bet that much money would make a nice start. 05:04
SamyelBecause I'd have to shout to talk to you from here.05:04
SamyelPoor Burgundavia. Tormented by a girl who follows him onto IRC. Pity the man.05:05
adamant1988Has anyone looked over Ronnie's magazine? Who's arm do I need to twist to start getting that out there.05:05
Madpilotthese people actually have the $350,000 already?05:06
BurgundaviaMadpilot: no05:06
Samyeladamant: I had a look through it.05:06
Burgundaviait is out there05:06
Samyeladamant: http://fullcirclemagazine.org/05:07
boredandbloggingadamant1988, has the digg and reddit thing been done for the issue?05:07
adamant1988boredandblogging: No sir, I do need to do the digging, I expected beuno to get in touch with me (as he promised) when it was ready05:08
adamant1988It seems that didn't happen05:08
nixternalMadpilot: they have like 3k, enough for a bumper sticker!05:08
nixternalhahaha05:08
nixternaland a keyfob05:08
Madpilotnixternal, a small bumpersticker, at that...05:08
nixternallol05:08
nixternallike the size of the ubuntu stickers you get via shipit05:08
adamant1988I just think they're wasting that05:09
adamant1988boredandblogging: Care to link me to the UWN for this week so I can digg this? 05:09
boredandbloggingmight also want to do what Burgundavia suggested, someone email ubuntu-news and ubuntu-announce05:09
boredandbloggingadamant1988, yeah, hold on05:09
nixternalsomeone said 350k for some devs. that would be the best thing to do with that money05:09
adamant1988nixternal: Exactly my stance05:09
Burgundaviaadamant1988: uwn is on the wiki, as per usual05:09
adamant1988that money could be put to MUCH better use05:09
boredandbloggingadamant1988, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue3605:09
nixternalI will be at that race, and let me just tell you, 75% of the people who go, go for the booze and the noise, and probably don't even have a computer capable of running windows 9505:09
adamant1988Burgundavia: I know it's that (for one reason or another) firefox is being extremely sketchy for me this evening. 05:10
Samyelit's hypothetical because they don't even have the money. What are the odds of raising that kind of $$$, anyway?05:10
Burgundaviaadamant1988: check the list archives05:10
BurgundaviaSamyel: nil05:10
nixternalSamyel: they were actually on digg and slashdot, so I think that is how they have raised 3k so far, if that isn't inflated05:10
adamant1988Ok, I'm going to digg this.05:10
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SamyelNixternal: 3K is a loooooooong way from 350K.05:11
nixternalhell ya05:11
SamyelLike ridiculously far. 05:11
nixternaland they have less than a month to do it05:11
SamyelMaybe they meant NEXT year's? :)05:11
nixternalthe guy is like "we get 20k hits a day", and all you have to show for it is 3k05:11
nixternal15k hits are from the idiot hitting refresh to see if his money is getting fatter05:11
adamant1988boredandblogging: what do you propose I put for the story description? 05:12
boredandbloggingadamant1988, there is a section call "In This Issue", basically list that stuff05:13
adamant1988boredandblogging: great, sorry05:13
boredandbloggingadamant1988, np05:14
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adamant1988I actually just chose to use the description at the top of the wiki05:15
boredandbloggingwhatever gets to read ;-)05:16
adamant1988In this issue we cover Mark's announcement on the next Ubuntu release codename and schedule, Feisty Fawn's release parties and a small delay in the release candidate due to problems with certain ATA chipsets, although the final release is still expected on Thursday 19th.05:16
adamant1988is that acceptable?05:16
boredandbloggingi'd leave out the delay thing05:17
boredandbloggingpush the positive thing05:17
boredandbloggingthey'll see the delay once they read it05:17
Tm_Tmooh05:18
adamant1988In this issue we cover Mark's announcement on the next Ubuntu release codename and schedule, Feisty Fawn's release parties and more...05:18
adamant1988acceptable?05:18
Tm_Tyay for release parties \o/05:19
boredandbloggingyeah05:19
=== Tm_T hopes all parties goes well
boredandbloggingthats fine05:19
Tm_Tour is bit, well, in unstable state =)05:19
Tm_Tor something like that05:19
boredandblogging"on the next Ubuntu release, codename, features, and schedule"05:19
boredandbloggingsomething like that05:20
adamant1988little late05:20
adamant1988haha05:20
boredandbloggingits fine either way05:20
adamant1988Ok, I did it as the first way05:21
Tm_Tmention parties05:21
boredandblogginghaha, yeah, mentioning parties is always good05:21
Tm_Twell, that will get people to parties =)05:21
Tm_TI afraid we are doing big happening with press and all for ten of us =)05:22
Tm_Tlocal papers have big headline "OpenSource Release was boring"05:22
boredandblogginglol05:22
Tm_Twe have reserved room with 70 seats with tables05:23
Tm_Tso roughly there can be over hundred =)05:23
Tm_TI hope there will be people05:23
Tm_Tjenda: slap me when you're there05:24
adamant1988I would throw an install party, but the the LUG for Elkins, WV would be about... 4 people, roughly.  1 is a PCLinuxOS user, the other is a Slackware user, myself and my friend are both Ubuntu (or derivative) users05:25
Tm_T:p05:26
adamant1988Yeah05:26
adamant1988So, basically, if you like technology WV is a bad place to be.05:26
Tm_TWV is hmm, West Virginia?05:27
adamant1988Yes.05:29
adamant1988A state with a grand total of people less than 1/8th the population of New York city. 05:29
Tm_Tadamant1988: and that's still more than any city in Finland I think ;)05:30
adamant1988Most of which who are labeled (rightfully in most cases) as "unskilled workers".05:30
Tm_T:p05:30
adamant1988Tm_T: West Virginia's population as of the last census I saw was just a little over 1 million. 05:30
Tm_Tyup, and biggest cities here has, well, 600 000 or so05:31
adamant1988Yeah, I won't go into that05:31
Tm_Twhole country 5.2 million =)05:31
adamant1988I think the largest city here floats around... MAYBE 30,000?05:31
adamant1988I know the town/city I live in is one of the few communities in the state large enough to actually have it's own Wal-Mart, and it has 9,000 people (give or take)05:32
Tm_Thmm, ok, that is small, even "big city in east" (that means next to russian border) Joensuu, my "homecity", has 60 00005:33
adamant1988My town is actually considered to be reasonably large, only defeated in size by the larger 'cities' in the state (Charleston, Clarksburg, Morgantown, etc.)05:34
Tm_T:)05:34
Tm_TI somehow start to love this less crowded part of the country05:34
Tm_TI did watch documentation from tv about small village bit north from here, 11 citizens where 2 employed05:36
Tm_Tand they used to have own tv-show 30 years ago =)05:37
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Tm_Tgrumpy too05:39
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Vhata_I see that UWN has finally gotten the spelling of Feisty (not Fiesty) right, but they've started spelling it Gusty, and not Gutsy  ;-)07:26
Vhata_is it a particularly flatulent gibbon?07:26
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nixternalgahahaha07:26
nixternalflatulent gibbon07:26
nixternalholy jesus, you just gave it a new nickname07:26
Vhatait's justice for Mark not accepting my "Emetic Echidna"07:27
Vhataemetic n : a medicine that induces nausea and vomiting [syn: {vomit}, {vomitive}, {nauseant}]  07:28
SamyelVhata: I told Burgundavia, and he just said, "oops."07:40
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VhataSamyel: a fair enough comment ;-)07:46
VhataI'm sure we'll get used to it in the next six months, before Mark chooses something else for us to misspell07:47
Samyelhaha07:53
SamyelI'll try to keep an eye on those. I've been helping edit UWN, and it slipped past me too.07:53
Vhatacool ta07:56
Samyeland now, I sleeeeeeep07:56
Samyel*thud*07:56
MenZa:O08:01
Tm_Tsleep?08:01
MenZapfft08:17
MenZaSleep is for the weak!08:17
Admiral_Chicagoexactly08:17
MenZa\o/08:18
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jendaAloha09:41
MenZa Morning jenda!09:45
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jendamornin'09:45
jenda:)09:45
MenZah:)09:47
MenZa-h09:47
Tm_Tjenda: :)09:50
jendayo09:50
Tm_Tjenda: you know about expo kit?09:50
jendaf'cuss09:50
=== Tm_T can't find that webpage
jendahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences09:51
Tm_Tjenda: anyway, me wanna09:51
Tm_Taah, thanks09:51
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MenZa:O09:51
Tm_T:(09:51
jendaI expect it to come 2 days after the LinuxExpo :-D09:51
juliuxthe expo kits are not so good as you think if you only read the wikipage09:51
MenZahmm09:51
jendajuliux: what's wrong widdum?09:52
MenZaExpo kits should be of dynamic size09:52
juliuxi get 4 expo kits in the laste 2 years09:52
MenZaSo... there'd be a difference between going to the local LUG meetup and Linuxworld :P09:52
juliuxjenda, the shirts have the sizes one s, two m, one large, one extra large09:52
MenZa(e.g. maybe 100 people vs. 50,000 people)09:52
MenZajuliux: How many Ubuntu polos do you have in stock?09:53
juliuxMenZa, zero09:53
MenZaWHAT09:53
MenZa:O09:53
Tm_Tjuliux: well, if we ge even one, it will be used and reused often and hard =)09:53
MenZaDoing more?09:53
juliuxMenZa, yes09:53
MenZaPhew.09:53
juliuxMenZa, at the begining of may we will produce new ones09:54
MenZaFantastic09:54
jendajuliux: goodies :)09:54
MenZaDo let me know, lasse AT havelund DOT org09:54
MenZa:309:54
jendaI'll be wearing mine to the linuxexpo09:54
juliuxMenZa, now you know;909:54
MenZaWell, when they're done09:54
jendaI have it iron'd an all ;)09:54
juliuxMenZa, we will make business shirts09:54
MenZaI'm probably ordering another09:54
MenZajenda: hehehe09:54
MenZajuliux: oh?09:54
MenZaAre they fabtastic like the polo shirts?09:54
jendajuliux: what are business shirts?09:54
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MenZaMy point exactly, jenda09:54
jendajuliux: I'll probably buy a few if I come to dresden09:55
jendaand try to sell them here to the team09:55
jendabecause it'll save on the shipping :)09:55
MenZajenda: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm1.static.flickr.com/37/82314327_5566677818.jpg%3Fv%3D0&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/maurice_flower/82314327/&h=375&w=500&sz=133&hl=en&sig2=o6-Czh5jDU7ma559l6NhzQ&start=18&um=1&tbnid=IJP3-Z35dJ49DM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&ei=0ysjRoGNHJLa0gTf-oz7CA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbusiness%2Bshirts%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:da:official%09:55
MenZaoh dear09:55
jenda600 CZK is way too much for a shirt...09:55
jendaO_O09:55
MenZalong link09:55
juliuxhttp://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/2500591792108080_1.jpg09:55
jenda400 is better09:55
juliuxthat is a business shirt;)09:55
MenZahehehehe09:55
jendaMenZa: can you tinyurl it?09:55
juliuxhttp://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/2500591773088080_0.jpg09:56
jendaO_O09:56
jendaI sooo want one09:56
MenZaAs do I09:56
MenZaThat reminds me09:56
MenZaI have a 200 korun note here09:56
jendajuliux: you mean, top-down button-up?09:56
jendaMenZa: :)09:56
MenZaThat's like... five pints.09:56
juliuxjenda, yes09:56
MenZaI'd send it to you :)09:56
jendaMenZa: where you livin'09:56
jendaMenZa: 200 is 10 pints09:56
jenda:)09:56
MenZaoh dear09:56
MenZaThat's 5 litres of beer09:56
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jendaMenZa: I assume we're going out for a beer next time we meet ;)09:57
MenZaDefinitely ;)09:57
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MenZahehehe09:57
jendahey... dude, I might actually be passing through Denmark this summer09:57
Tm_Tcan I come too?09:57
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juliuxjenda, we will not make business shirts for stock only via preorder09:57
jendaDepending on whether I'll be going by bus or hitch-hiking, I could stop by09:57
jendajuliux: mark me down for two :)09:58
jendaTm_T: of course :)09:58
juliuxjenda, short or long arm?09:58
jendaTm_T: if you _ever_ pass through Prague, drop a line.09:58
jendajuliux: one of each09:58
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jendasince I can't get my machine any more Ubuntu :)09:58
Tm_Tjenda: sounds like good place to stay few days atleast :)09:59
juliuxjenda, size?09:59
jendajuliux: I need 3 pairs of trousers, 10 pairs of underpants, 10 pairs of socks, 2 jumpers and 5 handkerchiefs.09:59
jendaM, methinks10:00
juliuxjenda, lol10:00
MenZajenda is M.10:00
MenZaor S.10:00
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jendaM10:01
jenda:)10:01
jenda/M checked the shirts.10:01
jenda:)10:01
MenZahehehe10:01
jendaand they're M10:01
juliuxjenda, the price is 20 for the business ones;)10:02
jendaO_O10:02
juliuxjenda, do you want withe or blue?10:02
jendaI guess I'll have to start working10:02
MenZa:O10:03
jendawhite or blue?10:03
juliuxshirt color10:03
MenZaI want my polo shirts :(10:03
jendakk10:03
jendahmm10:03
MenZaMy current polo shirt is so sexy I want another10:03
jendajuliux: blue for the shortsleeve, white for the long10:03
juliuxjenda, noted10:03
juliuxthe logo will be on the breast pocket10:04
MenZaThey better rock, juliux10:04
jendahehe10:04
jendajuliux: or else...10:04
jendajuliux: I wonder if I can carry my suit over that longsleeve shirt so that the logo can be seen...10:05
juliuxMenZa, but they are to expansive to make them for normal expos, so we only can make it via reservation10:05
juliuxjenda, that shoudl work10:05
jendaNah - it would have to be unbuttoned...10:05
jendaergo: I need an Ubuntu tie :)10:05
MenZathe polo shirt, juliux?10:05
rjianhello guys :)10:05
Tm_Tjuliux: business shirt, our marketing team prolly likes to have few at some point10:05
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juliuxMenZa, no business shirts10:06
MenZaoh.10:06
juliuxMenZa, we will make around 160 t-shirts and polo-shirts10:06
MenZaphew10:06
MenZathe polo shirts totally float my boat10:06
juliuxso we have some on stock10:06
MenZaAny plans for some black ones?10:06
rjianhehe its that for free?10:06
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jendarjian: definitely10:07
jendarjian: as in speech, that is10:07
MenZaI wear black shirts mostly, and a black Ubuntu polo would make my day10:07
jenda:)10:07
MenZaI'd probably get two, juliux10:07
mindspinblack ones would rock 10:07
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rjianjenda: hehehe10:07
MenZatrue dat, mindspin10:07
MenZamindspin agrees, juliux10:07
mindspinand kubuntu-blue ones too ;-)10:07
MenZa:D10:07
MenZahehehehe10:07
MenZaKubuntu blue indeed10:07
MenZaOr Xubuntu blue10:07
Tm_TKubuntu <310:07
rjianubuntu cap?10:07
MenZaXubuntu <310:07
rjianhehe10:07
MenZathe market is huge if it's executed properly10:08
jendaMenZa: just imagine walking into a store in a black suit, white ubuntu shirt and the logo on your tie...10:08
jendajuliux: are you still thinking of them stickers?10:08
MenZajenda: bahaha10:08
rjianUbuntu advocacy :)10:08
juliuxjenda, yes10:08
jendaI was just about to call my printer guy to ask about pins10:08
jendapins == badges10:09
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jendathat would probably look better on a suit than a tie10:09
MenZaI agree10:09
MenZaJust make them simple10:09
MenZaAnd unobtrusive10:09
rjianwho is making it? jenda?10:09
jenda(they were elky's idea)10:09
MenZaelkbuntu ftw <310:10
jendarjian: the shirts, jules - the pins and stickers, me10:10
juliuxjenda, yeah pins10:10
jenda:)10:10
MenZathat reminds me10:10
MenZahow many of my stickers have you got left in stock, jenda?10:10
rjianjenda: cool.. can i see a link?10:10
jendajuliux: is there a good chance you might tell me soon if you'll be taking more stickers? :)10:10
MenZa'son the wiki somewhere10:10
rjiani mean screenshot hehe10:10
jendarjian: for which?10:10
rjianfor the shirt etc..10:10
jendaMenZa: just a sec...10:10
rjianhehe10:10
MenZajenda: rgr :)10:10
juliuxjenda, i will see it in the next days10:11
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jendaok, cool10:11
jendaI'll hold of on calling them, then :)10:11
MenZahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu?action=show&redirect=SpreadUbuntu10:11
jendarjian: poster: http://diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Posters/HanZo/poster-layout.jpg10:11
jendarjian: stickers: http://diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Stickers/ubuntu.png10:12
jenda(crazya$$ huge image)10:12
MenZaeugh, raster art10:12
MenZajenda: fits nice on my monitor, I run 1800x1440 ;D10:12
MenZa:D10:12
jendaand kubuntu.png, xubuntu.png, edubuntu.png in that same dir10:12
jendaMenZa: :)10:12
jendaMenZa: he didn't want it in svg... but he ended up taking that anyway ;)10:12
jenda(there was something he didn't like about the pngs)10:13
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jendaMenZa: 233 U, 601 K, 433 X, 371 E10:13
rjianjenda: thnx for the link.. i have only one ubuntu shirt :)10:13
jendagoes for juliux too10:13
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jenda:)10:13
jendagood morning, popey, Ckenyon 10:13
jendarjian: I have about 50 altogether ;)10:14
jendabut they aren't really mine.10:14
popeymorning :)10:14
rjianhaha can i have a free materials? haha10:14
jendaa loco guy made them, and asked me to sell them off10:14
jendarjian: I only send CDs for free :)10:14
rjiangot a lot of CDs hehehe10:15
MenZaI have some CD's left.10:15
MenZa:\10:15
rjiani got the Ubuntu shirt on the last event FOSS@zamboanga10:15
MenZa:o10:15
=== MenZa wants to go to a FOSS conference.
rjianMenZa: your location? :D10:16
MenZaDenmark.10:16
MenZaThere was one not that long ago10:16
MenZaLinuxForum10:16
MenZaBut I couldn't go10:16
MenZaConsidering LinuxWorld this October10:16
rjianhehe i remember i organize FOSS@CCI giving ubuntu cd's hehe10:17
juliuxMenZa, which linuxworld?10:17
MenZain Denmark10:17
MenZaoh, yeh10:17
MenZaUK10:17
rjianMenZa: wow.. hehehe10:18
=== rjian any idea when will be the release of Feisty?
jendarjian: thursday10:19
MenZaif all goes accordingly*10:20
rjianjenda: cool hehehe another party in PH hehe10:20
jendarjian: what's PH?10:20
rjianPhilippines10:20
jendaPhom-penh?10:20
jendahehe10:20
jendaok :)10:20
rjianhehe10:20
=== rjian trying to organize FOSS@Mindanao Conference :)
jendacool10:24
rjianbut that is a big event hope i can make it before september 10:25
Tm_Tmoooh10:27
Tm_Tbtw anyone going to aKademy ?10:27
Ckenyonjenda: morning11:02
juliuxhi Ckenyon 11:05
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Ckenyonjuliux: morning12:02
elkbuntuTm_T, i'd prefer guadec, and then -ENOMONEY12:02
popeywooot12:02
popeyweek off work booked for Ubuntu Developer Summit12:03
elkbuntueither way, -ENOMONEY :(12:03
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elkbuntuyay!12:03
popey\o/ 12:03
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popeytime to do the hotel/flight booking dance12:03
elkbuntuyeah... those would be useful12:03
jendaCkenyon: you think you could point me to the Press releases, so that they could be translated into Czech?12:21
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elkbuntuMenZa, should do danish too :12:28
MenZa:O12:30
MenZalink, link12:30
jendaoink, oink12:39
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jendaI wont' be responding today ;) laters.12:39
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jendaHello Mithrandir 01:02
jendawhere's your cloak :)01:03
jenda(so much for staying off IRC today)01:03
MenZahehehehe01:03
Admiral_Chicagojenda: he got busted playing around on Vista...his cloak was taken away. :001:03
jendait lasted a whole 20 minutes... as long as it took to make lunch :)01:03
jendahaha01:04
jenda:)01:04
Admiral_Chicagoto be fair....http://qdb.us/7971201:04
Admiral_Chicagojenda: thats the real traitor ^^01:04
Mithrandirhiya jenda, I don't use cloaks.01:04
jendaokeydoke :)01:04
Mithrandirso, since RC is obviously delayed we are making this a bit up as we go, but we now have a plan for how the announcements should happen.01:05
Admiral_Chicagohow is that?01:06
MithrandirI'm going to send this to the list as well, but I'd like to run it by you too.01:06
jendaok, cool01:06
MithrandirPress Release: this goes out via pressy-like methods, and there's just one for everyone -- it links to the download page01:07
MithrandirE-Mail Announcement: this goes to ubuntu-announce, and there's just one -- it's more basic than our current mail, and links to things like the press release, the download page (instead of a mirrors list), the release notes, tour, etc.01:07
MithrandirRelease Notes: we've not really done this properly before, this will be a page on the website that lists the upgrade notes and known issues only01:07
MithrandirTour: this goes on the wiki, and has screenshots; basically what we've called the release notes before01:07
jendaThe release notes to-date have shown too little info or too much?01:08
jendaor the right amount, just wrong info :)01:08
jendaah01:09
=== jenda should finish reading before asking questions.
Mithrandirwhat we call release notes today (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/RC) is going to be called the tour.01:09
Mithrandirwhich admittedly is a better name for it.01:09
jendayes, it prolly is01:09
jendaWhy don't the Press Releases link to the 'tour', Mithrandir?01:11
jendaI'd think that would be a thing 'outsiders' would like to see.01:11
Mithrandirit would make sense, except the press release was sent out some time ago, with an embargo on it.01:15
Mithrandirso we can't change it.01:15
MithrandirI think we should make sure it happens for gutsy, though.01:15
jendaeek01:15
jendaok01:15
MithrandirI believe it was also sent out to a bunch of -marketing people so it could be translated.01:16
jendayes, yes01:19
jendaI was asking Ckenyon for a copy about 20 minutes before you joined the channel :)01:19
Mithrandiroh, ok. :-)01:20
jendaOkeydoke, I gotta run off again (virtually - just to another window :)) to do some work.01:24
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Mithrandirhm, I think /FeistyFawn/RC on the wiki should be renamed to FeistyTour or something like that.02:24
Mithrandir(and similarly for Kubuntu)02:24
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CkenyonMith05:41
CkenyonMithrandir: The tour should be ubuntu7.04 tour05:41
=== poningru waves at Ckenyon
poningruCkenyon: we couldnt find anyone close to the sparc installer05:48
poningrudo you know anyone?05:48
poningruI asked in -devel and no one responded :(05:50
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