[12:08] <Tm_T> hi kids
[12:15] <Tm_T> anyone here remember where in website that expo kit was?
[12:15] <Tm_T> and most importantly, how to get one :p
[12:16] <beuno> hm, jenda knows, but he's out partying somewhere  :D
[12:17] <beuno> I'd recommend you send an email to the mailing list
[12:18] <Tm_T> beuno: yes thanks, I think it's time to join that one too =)
[12:18] <beuno> :D
[12:18] <Tm_T> I'm already in, well, too many
[12:18] <beuno> yes, it's hard to keep that under control
[12:19] <Tm_T> yeah, good that gmail can hold big amount of mail
[12:24] <Tm_T> oh boy, some work to do to get release party organised and so on
[12:27] <Tm_T> I wonder if I should be in -loco too
[01:01] <Ckenyon> Evening
[04:50] <nixternal> hey, anyone know that helios from the tux500 joke?
[04:50] <Burgundavia> nope
[04:51] <Burgundavia> although the lobby for linux people appear to have a slightly inflated idea of their own importance
[04:51] <nixternal> ya
[04:51] <nixternal> they emailed me threatening me and calling me pathetic
[04:51] <Samyel> ?
[04:51] <nixternal> I replied, and it wasn't nice
[04:52] <Samyel> who are the lobby for linux people? 
[04:52] <Burgundavia> nixternal: care to forward me the email?
[04:52] <nixternal> you know what, I don't need this shit man. this joke of a person emails me with that crap
[04:52] <Samyel> <-- newbie
[04:52] <nixternal> Burgundavia: yes
[04:52] <boredandblogging> yeah, what are we talking about here?
[04:52] <Burgundavia> that linux on racecar thingy
[04:54] <nixternal> Burgundavia: You've Got Mail!
[04:55] <boredandblogging> lol, interesting
[04:55] <nixternal> part 1, part 2, and the rated R part 3
[04:56] <nixternal> it is funny, these people who run that crap have "donate money to my pocket" buttons everywhere
[04:56] <boredandblogging> nixternal, why are they threatening you?
[04:56] <nixternal> boredandblogging: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-marketing/2007-April/001840.html
[04:57] <nixternal> you can see I was actually starting to support the idea, then I wasn't sure if I trusted it
[04:57] <nixternal> now I hope it fails, and everyone donated a starbucks coffee for an ubuntu sticker on a lugnut
[04:58] <boredandblogging> ahh, now I remember
[04:58] <nixternal> omg
[04:58] <nixternal> they are going to sponsor a car by a guy with 1 finish
[04:58] <nixternal> in the indy 500
[04:59] <nixternal> they have a driver who don't even know what it is like to win, he just knows how to lose
[04:59] <boredandblogging> ouch!
[05:01] <nixternal> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stphane_Grgoire
[05:01] <nixternal> yay for them
[05:02] <Samyel> the trouble with basing your marketing on competative things is that it's very easy to attach "loser" to your name...
[05:02] <Burgundavia> pretty much
[05:02] <Samyel> without that having anything to do with your actual product
[05:02] <Samyel> but if the car you're using to market yourself tanks out in an embarassing way, people will associate "flaming failure" with your name.
[05:03] <adamant1988> nixternal: Why were you threatened? 
[05:03] <Burgundavia> 35000 is also a lot of money
[05:03] <Burgundavia> 350000, rather
[05:03] <adamant1988> A lot of money that COULD have been spent on the development of free software
[05:03] <Samyel> Or a lot of money that could be divided into safer marketing endeavours
[05:04] <Samyel> But I'm not a gambler. :)
[05:04] <Burgundavia> you could pay several developers for a full year on that
[05:04] <Burgundavia> Samyel: why exactly are we violating the 3m rule
[05:04] <Burgundavia> ?
[05:04] <adamant1988> I would have preferred the software route, I could really use a decent photoshop alternative, I bet that much money would make a nice start. 
[05:04] <Samyel> Because I'd have to shout to talk to you from here.
[05:05] <Samyel> Poor Burgundavia. Tormented by a girl who follows him onto IRC. Pity the man.
[05:05] <adamant1988> Has anyone looked over Ronnie's magazine? Who's arm do I need to twist to start getting that out there.
[05:06] <Madpilot> these people actually have the $350,000 already?
[05:06] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: no
[05:06] <Samyel> adamant: I had a look through it.
[05:06] <Burgundavia> it is out there
[05:07] <Samyel> adamant: http://fullcirclemagazine.org/
[05:07] <boredandblogging> adamant1988, has the digg and reddit thing been done for the issue?
[05:08] <adamant1988> boredandblogging: No sir, I do need to do the digging, I expected beuno to get in touch with me (as he promised) when it was ready
[05:08] <adamant1988> It seems that didn't happen
[05:08] <nixternal> Madpilot: they have like 3k, enough for a bumper sticker!
[05:08] <nixternal> hahaha
[05:08] <nixternal> and a keyfob
[05:08] <Madpilot> nixternal, a small bumpersticker, at that...
[05:08] <nixternal> lol
[05:08] <nixternal> like the size of the ubuntu stickers you get via shipit
[05:09] <adamant1988> I just think they're wasting that
[05:09] <adamant1988> boredandblogging: Care to link me to the UWN for this week so I can digg this? 
[05:09] <boredandblogging> might also want to do what Burgundavia suggested, someone email ubuntu-news and ubuntu-announce
[05:09] <boredandblogging> adamant1988, yeah, hold on
[05:09] <nixternal> someone said 350k for some devs. that would be the best thing to do with that money
[05:09] <adamant1988> nixternal: Exactly my stance
[05:09] <Burgundavia> adamant1988: uwn is on the wiki, as per usual
[05:09] <adamant1988> that money could be put to MUCH better use
[05:09] <boredandblogging> adamant1988, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue36
[05:09] <nixternal> I will be at that race, and let me just tell you, 75% of the people who go, go for the booze and the noise, and probably don't even have a computer capable of running windows 95
[05:10] <adamant1988> Burgundavia: I know it's that (for one reason or another) firefox is being extremely sketchy for me this evening. 
[05:10] <Samyel> it's hypothetical because they don't even have the money. What are the odds of raising that kind of $$$, anyway?
[05:10] <Burgundavia> adamant1988: check the list archives
[05:10] <Burgundavia> Samyel: nil
[05:10] <nixternal> Samyel: they were actually on digg and slashdot, so I think that is how they have raised 3k so far, if that isn't inflated
[05:10] <adamant1988> Ok, I'm going to digg this.
[05:11] <Samyel> Nixternal: 3K is a loooooooong way from 350K.
[05:11] <nixternal> hell ya
[05:11] <Samyel> Like ridiculously far. 
[05:11] <nixternal> and they have less than a month to do it
[05:11] <Samyel> Maybe they meant NEXT year's? :)
[05:11] <nixternal> the guy is like "we get 20k hits a day", and all you have to show for it is 3k
[05:11] <nixternal> 15k hits are from the idiot hitting refresh to see if his money is getting fatter
[05:12] <adamant1988> boredandblogging: what do you propose I put for the story description? 
[05:13] <boredandblogging> adamant1988, there is a section call "In This Issue", basically list that stuff
[05:13] <adamant1988> boredandblogging: great, sorry
[05:14] <boredandblogging> adamant1988, np
[05:15] <adamant1988> I actually just chose to use the description at the top of the wiki
[05:16] <boredandblogging> whatever gets to read ;-)
[05:16] <adamant1988> In this issue we cover Mark's announcement on the next Ubuntu release codename and schedule, Feisty Fawn's release parties and a small delay in the release candidate due to problems with certain ATA chipsets, although the final release is still expected on Thursday 19th.
[05:16] <adamant1988> is that acceptable?
[05:17] <boredandblogging> i'd leave out the delay thing
[05:17] <boredandblogging> push the positive thing
[05:17] <boredandblogging> they'll see the delay once they read it
[05:18] <Tm_T> mooh
[05:18] <adamant1988> In this issue we cover Mark's announcement on the next Ubuntu release codename and schedule, Feisty Fawn's release parties and more...
[05:18] <adamant1988> acceptable?
[05:19] <Tm_T> yay for release parties \o/
[05:19] <boredandblogging> yeah
[05:19] <boredandblogging> thats fine
[05:19] <Tm_T> our is bit, well, in unstable state =)
[05:19] <Tm_T> or something like that
[05:19] <boredandblogging> "on the next Ubuntu release, codename, features, and schedule"
[05:20] <boredandblogging> something like that
[05:20] <adamant1988> little late
[05:20] <adamant1988> haha
[05:20] <boredandblogging> its fine either way
[05:21] <adamant1988> Ok, I did it as the first way
[05:21] <Tm_T> mention parties
[05:21] <boredandblogging> haha, yeah, mentioning parties is always good
[05:21] <Tm_T> well, that will get people to parties =)
[05:22] <Tm_T> I afraid we are doing big happening with press and all for ten of us =)
[05:22] <Tm_T> local papers have big headline "OpenSource Release was boring"
[05:22] <boredandblogging> lol
[05:23] <Tm_T> we have reserved room with 70 seats with tables
[05:23] <Tm_T> so roughly there can be over hundred =)
[05:23] <Tm_T> I hope there will be people
[05:24] <Tm_T> jenda: slap me when you're there
[05:25] <adamant1988> I would throw an install party, but the the LUG for Elkins, WV would be about... 4 people, roughly.  1 is a PCLinuxOS user, the other is a Slackware user, myself and my friend are both Ubuntu (or derivative) users
[05:26] <Tm_T> :p
[05:26] <adamant1988> Yeah
[05:26] <adamant1988> So, basically, if you like technology WV is a bad place to be.
[05:27] <Tm_T> WV is hmm, West Virginia?
[05:29] <adamant1988> Yes.
[05:29] <adamant1988> A state with a grand total of people less than 1/8th the population of New York city. 
[05:30] <Tm_T> adamant1988: and that's still more than any city in Finland I think ;)
[05:30] <adamant1988> Most of which who are labeled (rightfully in most cases) as "unskilled workers".
[05:30] <Tm_T> :p
[05:30] <adamant1988> Tm_T: West Virginia's population as of the last census I saw was just a little over 1 million. 
[05:31] <Tm_T> yup, and biggest cities here has, well, 600 000 or so
[05:31] <adamant1988> Yeah, I won't go into that
[05:31] <Tm_T> whole country 5.2 million =)
[05:31] <adamant1988> I think the largest city here floats around... MAYBE 30,000?
[05:32] <adamant1988> I know the town/city I live in is one of the few communities in the state large enough to actually have it's own Wal-Mart, and it has 9,000 people (give or take)
[05:33] <Tm_T> hmm, ok, that is small, even "big city in east" (that means next to russian border) Joensuu, my "homecity", has 60 000
[05:34] <adamant1988> My town is actually considered to be reasonably large, only defeated in size by the larger 'cities' in the state (Charleston, Clarksburg, Morgantown, etc.)
[05:34] <Tm_T> :)
[05:34] <Tm_T> I somehow start to love this less crowded part of the country
[05:36] <Tm_T> I did watch documentation from tv about small village bit north from here, 11 citizens where 2 employed
[05:37] <Tm_T> and they used to have own tv-show 30 years ago =)
[05:39] <Tm_T> grumpy too
[07:26] <Vhata_> I see that UWN has finally gotten the spelling of Feisty (not Fiesty) right, but they've started spelling it Gusty, and not Gutsy  ;-)
[07:26] <Vhata_> is it a particularly flatulent gibbon?
[07:26] <nixternal> gahahaha
[07:26] <nixternal> flatulent gibbon
[07:26] <nixternal> holy jesus, you just gave it a new nickname
[07:27] <Vhata> it's justice for Mark not accepting my "Emetic Echidna"
[07:28] <Vhata> emetic n : a medicine that induces nausea and vomiting [syn: {vomit}, {vomitive}, {nauseant}]  
[07:40] <Samyel> Vhata: I told Burgundavia, and he just said, "oops."
[07:46] <Vhata> Samyel: a fair enough comment ;-)
[07:47] <Vhata> I'm sure we'll get used to it in the next six months, before Mark chooses something else for us to misspell
[07:53] <Samyel> haha
[07:53] <Samyel> I'll try to keep an eye on those. I've been helping edit UWN, and it slipped past me too.
[07:56] <Vhata> cool ta
[07:56] <Samyel> and now, I sleeeeeeep
[07:56] <Samyel> *thud*
[08:01] <MenZa> :O
[08:01] <Tm_T> sleep?
[08:17] <MenZa> pfft
[08:17] <MenZa> Sleep is for the weak!
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> exactly
[08:18] <MenZa> \o/
[09:41] <jenda> Aloha
[09:45] <MenZa>  Morning jenda!
[09:45] <jenda> mornin'
[09:45] <jenda> :)
[09:47] <MenZa> h:)
[09:47] <MenZa> -h
[09:50] <Tm_T> jenda: :)
[09:50] <jenda> yo
[09:50] <Tm_T> jenda: you know about expo kit?
[09:50] <jenda> f'cuss
[09:51] <jenda> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences
[09:51] <Tm_T> jenda: anyway, me wanna
[09:51] <Tm_T> aah, thanks
[09:51] <MenZa> :O
[09:51] <Tm_T> :(
[09:51] <jenda> I expect it to come 2 days after the LinuxExpo :-D
[09:51] <juliux> the expo kits are not so good as you think if you only read the wikipage
[09:51] <MenZa> hmm
[09:52] <jenda> juliux: what's wrong widdum?
[09:52] <MenZa> Expo kits should be of dynamic size
[09:52] <juliux> i get 4 expo kits in the laste 2 years
[09:52] <MenZa> So... there'd be a difference between going to the local LUG meetup and Linuxworld :P
[09:52] <juliux> jenda, the shirts have the sizes one s, two m, one large, one extra large
[09:52] <MenZa> (e.g. maybe 100 people vs. 50,000 people)
[09:53] <MenZa> juliux: How many Ubuntu polos do you have in stock?
[09:53] <juliux> MenZa, zero
[09:53] <MenZa> WHAT
[09:53] <MenZa> :O
[09:53] <Tm_T> juliux: well, if we ge even one, it will be used and reused often and hard =)
[09:53] <MenZa> Doing more?
[09:53] <juliux> MenZa, yes
[09:53] <MenZa> Phew.
[09:54] <juliux> MenZa, at the begining of may we will produce new ones
[09:54] <MenZa> Fantastic
[09:54] <jenda> juliux: goodies :)
[09:54] <MenZa> Do let me know, lasse AT havelund DOT org
[09:54] <MenZa> :3
[09:54] <jenda> I'll be wearing mine to the linuxexpo
[09:54] <juliux> MenZa, now you know;9
[09:54] <MenZa> Well, when they're done
[09:54] <jenda> I have it iron'd an all ;)
[09:54] <juliux> MenZa, we will make business shirts
[09:54] <MenZa> I'm probably ordering another
[09:54] <MenZa> jenda: hehehe
[09:54] <MenZa> juliux: oh?
[09:54] <MenZa> Are they fabtastic like the polo shirts?
[09:54] <jenda> juliux: what are business shirts?
[09:54] <MenZa> My point exactly, jenda
[09:55] <jenda> juliux: I'll probably buy a few if I come to dresden
[09:55] <jenda> and try to sell them here to the team
[09:55] <jenda> because it'll save on the shipping :)
[09:55] <MenZa> jenda: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm1.static.flickr.com/37/82314327_5566677818.jpg%3Fv%3D0&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/maurice_flower/82314327/&h=375&w=500&sz=133&hl=en&sig2=o6-Czh5jDU7ma559l6NhzQ&start=18&um=1&tbnid=IJP3-Z35dJ49DM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&ei=0ysjRoGNHJLa0gTf-oz7CA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbusiness%2Bshirts%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:da:official%
[09:55] <MenZa> oh dear
[09:55] <jenda> 600 CZK is way too much for a shirt...
[09:55] <jenda> O_O
[09:55] <MenZa> long link
[09:55] <juliux> http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/2500591792108080_1.jpg
[09:55] <jenda> 400 is better
[09:55] <juliux> that is a business shirt;)
[09:55] <MenZa> hehehehe
[09:55] <jenda> MenZa: can you tinyurl it?
[09:56] <juliux> http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/2500591773088080_0.jpg
[09:56] <jenda> O_O
[09:56] <jenda> I sooo want one
[09:56] <MenZa> As do I
[09:56] <MenZa> That reminds me
[09:56] <MenZa> I have a 200 korun note here
[09:56] <jenda> juliux: you mean, top-down button-up?
[09:56] <jenda> MenZa: :)
[09:56] <MenZa> That's like... five pints.
[09:56] <juliux> jenda, yes
[09:56] <MenZa> I'd send it to you :)
[09:56] <jenda> MenZa: where you livin'
[09:56] <jenda> MenZa: 200 is 10 pints
[09:56] <jenda> :)
[09:56] <MenZa> oh dear
[09:56] <MenZa> That's 5 litres of beer
[09:57] <jenda> MenZa: I assume we're going out for a beer next time we meet ;)
[09:57] <MenZa> Definitely ;)
[09:57] <MenZa> hehehe
[09:57] <jenda> hey... dude, I might actually be passing through Denmark this summer
[09:57] <Tm_T> can I come too?
[09:57] <juliux> jenda, we will not make business shirts for stock only via preorder
[09:57] <jenda> Depending on whether I'll be going by bus or hitch-hiking, I could stop by
[09:58] <jenda> juliux: mark me down for two :)
[09:58] <jenda> Tm_T: of course :)
[09:58] <juliux> jenda, short or long arm?
[09:58] <jenda> Tm_T: if you _ever_ pass through Prague, drop a line.
[09:58] <jenda> juliux: one of each
[09:58] <jenda> since I can't get my machine any more Ubuntu :)
[09:59] <Tm_T> jenda: sounds like good place to stay few days atleast :)
[09:59] <juliux> jenda, size?
[09:59] <jenda> juliux: I need 3 pairs of trousers, 10 pairs of underpants, 10 pairs of socks, 2 jumpers and 5 handkerchiefs.
[10:00] <jenda> M, methinks
[10:00] <juliux> jenda, lol
[10:00] <MenZa> jenda is M.
[10:00] <MenZa> or S.
[10:01] <jenda> M
[10:01] <jenda> :)
[10:01] <jenda> /M checked the shirts.
[10:01] <jenda> :)
[10:01] <MenZa> hehehe
[10:01] <jenda> and they're M
[10:02] <juliux> jenda, the price is 20 for the business ones;)
[10:02] <jenda> O_O
[10:02] <juliux> jenda, do you want withe or blue?
[10:02] <jenda> I guess I'll have to start working
[10:03] <MenZa> :O
[10:03] <jenda> white or blue?
[10:03] <juliux> shirt color
[10:03] <MenZa> I want my polo shirts :(
[10:03] <jenda> kk
[10:03] <jenda> hmm
[10:03] <MenZa> My current polo shirt is so sexy I want another
[10:03] <jenda> juliux: blue for the shortsleeve, white for the long
[10:03] <juliux> jenda, noted
[10:04] <juliux> the logo will be on the breast pocket
[10:04] <MenZa> They better rock, juliux
[10:04] <jenda> hehe
[10:04] <jenda> juliux: or else...
[10:05] <jenda> juliux: I wonder if I can carry my suit over that longsleeve shirt so that the logo can be seen...
[10:05] <juliux> MenZa, but they are to expansive to make them for normal expos, so we only can make it via reservation
[10:05] <juliux> jenda, that shoudl work
[10:05] <jenda> Nah - it would have to be unbuttoned...
[10:05] <jenda> ergo: I need an Ubuntu tie :)
[10:05] <MenZa> the polo shirt, juliux?
[10:05] <rjian> hello guys :)
[10:05] <Tm_T> juliux: business shirt, our marketing team prolly likes to have few at some point
[10:06] <juliux> MenZa, no business shirts
[10:06] <MenZa> oh.
[10:06] <juliux> MenZa, we will make around 160 t-shirts and polo-shirts
[10:06] <MenZa> phew
[10:06] <MenZa> the polo shirts totally float my boat
[10:06] <juliux> so we have some on stock
[10:06] <MenZa> Any plans for some black ones?
[10:06] <rjian> hehe its that for free?
[10:07] <jenda> rjian: definitely
[10:07] <jenda> rjian: as in speech, that is
[10:07] <MenZa> I wear black shirts mostly, and a black Ubuntu polo would make my day
[10:07] <jenda> :)
[10:07] <MenZa> I'd probably get two, juliux
[10:07] <mindspin> black ones would rock 
[10:07] <rjian> jenda: hehehe
[10:07] <MenZa> true dat, mindspin
[10:07] <MenZa> mindspin agrees, juliux
[10:07] <mindspin> and kubuntu-blue ones too ;-)
[10:07] <MenZa> :D
[10:07] <MenZa> hehehehe
[10:07] <MenZa> Kubuntu blue indeed
[10:07] <MenZa> Or Xubuntu blue
[10:07] <Tm_T> Kubuntu <3
[10:07] <rjian> ubuntu cap?
[10:07] <MenZa> Xubuntu <3
[10:07] <rjian> hehe
[10:08] <MenZa> the market is huge if it's executed properly
[10:08] <jenda> MenZa: just imagine walking into a store in a black suit, white ubuntu shirt and the logo on your tie...
[10:08] <jenda> juliux: are you still thinking of them stickers?
[10:08] <MenZa> jenda: bahaha
[10:08] <rjian> Ubuntu advocacy :)
[10:08] <juliux> jenda, yes
[10:08] <jenda> I was just about to call my printer guy to ask about pins
[10:09] <jenda> pins == badges
[10:09] <jenda> that would probably look better on a suit than a tie
[10:09] <MenZa> I agree
[10:09] <MenZa> Just make them simple
[10:09] <MenZa> And unobtrusive
[10:09] <rjian> who is making it? jenda?
[10:09] <jenda> (they were elky's idea)
[10:10] <MenZa> elkbuntu ftw <3
[10:10] <jenda> rjian: the shirts, jules - the pins and stickers, me
[10:10] <juliux> jenda, yeah pins
[10:10] <jenda> :)
[10:10] <MenZa> that reminds me
[10:10] <MenZa> how many of my stickers have you got left in stock, jenda?
[10:10] <rjian> jenda: cool.. can i see a link?
[10:10] <jenda> juliux: is there a good chance you might tell me soon if you'll be taking more stickers? :)
[10:10] <MenZa> 'son the wiki somewhere
[10:10] <rjian> i mean screenshot hehe
[10:10] <jenda> rjian: for which?
[10:10] <rjian> for the shirt etc..
[10:10] <jenda> MenZa: just a sec...
[10:10] <rjian> hehe
[10:10] <MenZa> jenda: rgr :)
[10:11] <juliux> jenda, i will see it in the next days
[10:11] <jenda> ok, cool
[10:11] <jenda> I'll hold of on calling them, then :)
[10:11] <MenZa> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu?action=show&redirect=SpreadUbuntu
[10:11] <jenda> rjian: poster: http://diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Posters/HanZo/poster-layout.jpg
[10:12] <jenda> rjian: stickers: http://diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Stickers/ubuntu.png
[10:12] <jenda> (crazya$$ huge image)
[10:12] <MenZa> eugh, raster art
[10:12] <MenZa> jenda: fits nice on my monitor, I run 1800x1440 ;D
[10:12] <MenZa> :D
[10:12] <jenda> and kubuntu.png, xubuntu.png, edubuntu.png in that same dir
[10:12] <jenda> MenZa: :)
[10:12] <jenda> MenZa: he didn't want it in svg... but he ended up taking that anyway ;)
[10:13] <jenda> (there was something he didn't like about the pngs)
[10:13] <jenda> MenZa: 233 U, 601 K, 433 X, 371 E
[10:13] <rjian> jenda: thnx for the link.. i have only one ubuntu shirt :)
[10:13] <jenda> goes for juliux too
[10:13] <jenda> :)
[10:13] <jenda> good morning, popey, Ckenyon 
[10:14] <jenda> rjian: I have about 50 altogether ;)
[10:14] <jenda> but they aren't really mine.
[10:14] <popey> morning :)
[10:14] <rjian> haha can i have a free materials? haha
[10:14] <jenda> a loco guy made them, and asked me to sell them off
[10:14] <jenda> rjian: I only send CDs for free :)
[10:15] <rjian> got a lot of CDs hehehe
[10:15] <MenZa> I have some CD's left.
[10:15] <MenZa> :\
[10:15] <rjian> i got the Ubuntu shirt on the last event FOSS@zamboanga
[10:15] <MenZa> :o
[10:16] <rjian> MenZa: your location? :D
[10:16] <MenZa> Denmark.
[10:16] <MenZa> There was one not that long ago
[10:16] <MenZa> LinuxForum
[10:16] <MenZa> But I couldn't go
[10:16] <MenZa> Considering LinuxWorld this October
[10:17] <rjian> hehe i remember i organize FOSS@CCI giving ubuntu cd's hehe
[10:17] <juliux> MenZa, which linuxworld?
[10:17] <MenZa> in Denmark
[10:17] <MenZa> oh, yeh
[10:17] <MenZa> UK
[10:18] <rjian> MenZa: wow.. hehehe
[10:19] <jenda> rjian: thursday
[10:20] <MenZa> if all goes accordingly*
[10:20] <rjian> jenda: cool hehehe another party in PH hehe
[10:20] <jenda> rjian: what's PH?
[10:20] <rjian> Philippines
[10:20] <jenda> Phom-penh?
[10:20] <jenda> hehe
[10:20] <jenda> ok :)
[10:20] <rjian> hehe
[10:24] <jenda> cool
[10:25] <rjian> but that is a big event hope i can make it before september 
[10:27] <Tm_T> moooh
[10:27] <Tm_T> btw anyone going to aKademy ?
[11:02] <Ckenyon> jenda: morning
[11:05] <juliux> hi Ckenyon 
[12:02] <Ckenyon> juliux: morning
[12:02] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, i'd prefer guadec, and then -ENOMONEY
[12:02] <popey> wooot
[12:03] <popey> week off work booked for Ubuntu Developer Summit
[12:03] <elkbuntu> either way, -ENOMONEY :(
[12:03] <elkbuntu> yay!
[12:03] <popey> \o/ 
[12:03] <popey> time to do the hotel/flight booking dance
[12:03] <elkbuntu> yeah... those would be useful
[12:21] <jenda> Ckenyon: you think you could point me to the Press releases, so that they could be translated into Czech?
[12:28] <elkbuntu> MenZa, should do danish too :
[12:30] <MenZa> :O
[12:30] <MenZa> link, link
[12:39] <jenda> oink, oink
[12:39] <jenda> I wont' be responding today ;) laters.
[01:02] <jenda> Hello Mithrandir 
[01:03] <jenda> where's your cloak :)
[01:03] <jenda> (so much for staying off IRC today)
[01:03] <MenZa> hehehehe
[01:03] <Admiral_Chicago> jenda: he got busted playing around on Vista...his cloak was taken away. :0
[01:03] <jenda> it lasted a whole 20 minutes... as long as it took to make lunch :)
[01:04] <jenda> haha
[01:04] <jenda> :)
[01:04] <Admiral_Chicago> to be fair....http://qdb.us/79712
[01:04] <Admiral_Chicago> jenda: thats the real traitor ^^
[01:04] <Mithrandir> hiya jenda, I don't use cloaks.
[01:04] <jenda> okeydoke :)
[01:05] <Mithrandir> so, since RC is obviously delayed we are making this a bit up as we go, but we now have a plan for how the announcements should happen.
[01:06] <Admiral_Chicago> how is that?
[01:06] <Mithrandir> I'm going to send this to the list as well, but I'd like to run it by you too.
[01:06] <jenda> ok, cool
[01:07] <Mithrandir> Press Release: this goes out via pressy-like methods, and there's just one for everyone -- it links to the download page
[01:07] <Mithrandir> E-Mail Announcement: this goes to ubuntu-announce, and there's just one -- it's more basic than our current mail, and links to things like the press release, the download page (instead of a mirrors list), the release notes, tour, etc.
[01:07] <Mithrandir> Release Notes: we've not really done this properly before, this will be a page on the website that lists the upgrade notes and known issues only
[01:07] <Mithrandir> Tour: this goes on the wiki, and has screenshots; basically what we've called the release notes before
[01:08] <jenda> The release notes to-date have shown too little info or too much?
[01:08] <jenda> or the right amount, just wrong info :)
[01:09] <jenda> ah
[01:09] <Mithrandir> what we call release notes today (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/RC) is going to be called the tour.
[01:09] <Mithrandir> which admittedly is a better name for it.
[01:09] <jenda> yes, it prolly is
[01:11] <jenda> Why don't the Press Releases link to the 'tour', Mithrandir?
[01:11] <jenda> I'd think that would be a thing 'outsiders' would like to see.
[01:15] <Mithrandir> it would make sense, except the press release was sent out some time ago, with an embargo on it.
[01:15] <Mithrandir> so we can't change it.
[01:15] <Mithrandir> I think we should make sure it happens for gutsy, though.
[01:15] <jenda> eek
[01:15] <jenda> ok
[01:16] <Mithrandir> I believe it was also sent out to a bunch of -marketing people so it could be translated.
[01:19] <jenda> yes, yes
[01:19] <jenda> I was asking Ckenyon for a copy about 20 minutes before you joined the channel :)
[01:20] <Mithrandir> oh, ok. :-)
[01:24] <jenda> Okeydoke, I gotta run off again (virtually - just to another window :)) to do some work.
[02:24] <Mithrandir> hm, I think /FeistyFawn/RC on the wiki should be renamed to FeistyTour or something like that.
[02:24] <Mithrandir> (and similarly for Kubuntu)
[05:41] <Ckenyon> Mith
[05:41] <Ckenyon> Mithrandir: The tour should be ubuntu7.04 tour
[05:48] <poningru> Ckenyon: we couldnt find anyone close to the sparc installer
[05:48] <poningru> do you know anyone?
[05:50] <poningru> I asked in -devel and no one responded :(