=== Qbal1 [n=toby@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] tsmithe, i'm watching [12:12] Qbal1: lol you linked that name? [12:12] duh === Qbal1 [n=toby@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Qbal1 is now known as tsmithe === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.24] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [i=mb@2002:5361:2a04:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] can anyone take a look at my debdiff: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xnc/+bug/45569 [12:53] sharms, you should use 5.0.4-2.1ubuntu1 instead of 5.0.4-2ubuntu1 [12:53] ah it was that, but I changed it [12:53] I was using: http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/17/ubuntu-package-version-naming-explanation/ as a guide === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] you should also remove /tmp/X2g8TaQUiE/ and /tmp/esulBGkxNB/ [12:55] nobody uses patch -p4 :D [12:55] I was in my directory, ran a dpkg-buildpkg [12:56] then from that, I did a debdiff on the orig dsc and my dsc [12:56] then I cut out the irrelevant parts that were somehow changed like build options === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.120.81] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:57] I was referring to lines beginning with that in your debdiff [12:57] such as /tmp/X2g8TaQUiE/xnc-5.0.4/debian/changelog [12:58] yeah and I was stating how I did it so you can correct my process [12:58] there should be some option to pass to debdiff [12:59] you're juste missing patchutils === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-115-218-80.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] ok I installed patch utils, so what is the proper process? [01:00] Edit deb, create deb with dpkg-buildpackage, create a debdiff using "debdiff" [01:01] good night, see you. [01:01] thanks for the input [01:02] sharms: if what you want to do is a debdiff, there's no need to build the deb. debuild -S will be fine instead of dpkg-buildpackage [01:02] you're welcome :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@19-55.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:02] good night :) [01:03] Good night all === Simon80 [n=Simon80@rn-v1n5b15.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml_ [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #ubuntu-motu === madc [n=d@71-81-56-119.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macd [n=d@adsl-156-75-197.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aanderse [n=aaron@CPE0015e916db19-CM001225d7436c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp38-114.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === forcerain [n=forcerai@tapthru/resident/NthDegree] has joined #ubuntu-motu === forcerain [n=forcerai@tapthru/resident/NthDegree] has joined #ubuntu-motu === somerville32 [n=ubuntu@CPE0016b6e69a08-CM001404556626.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kads [n=kthakore@CPE001310a1899c-CM001692fa7e8e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dcsmith [n=dcsmith@ool-4351bc6d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] Hey, can someone give me a hand, I'm trying to build my first package, and the locale in my chroot is causing problems [02:05] first, is the appropriate/desired locale actually set? [02:06] when I try to set it i get statements about directories missing for certaine environment variables LC_ALL [02:07] well, use locale-gen [02:07] pass it a whitespace-delimited list of desired first-column locales from /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED [02:08] that looks like that did it [02:09] nope [02:09] it's not a locale issue after all [02:09] dbus is failing to configure [02:10] it's complaining about update-rc.d === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] the arguments look incorrect [02:11] if you're building a source package, you should be using sbuild or pbuilder [02:11] will you at least pastebin the error spew? Guessing isn't going to help. === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-74-214.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] crimsun: in order to get the dependencies I'm trying to just do a configure, make, make install in the chrooted enviroment? Is this right? === Ademan [n=dan@h-69-3-235-237.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] if you mean the trial-and-error approach, well, I suppose that's one way. [02:14] and I presume you mean build-dependencies [02:15] it's much more efficient to simply read the output from the ./configure script [if the package is autotoolised] to get the build-dependencies [02:15] `./configure --help` is a good place to start === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] http://pastebin.ca/442051 [02:17] so then why do I need the chroot at all, If I run the thing on my machine, can/should I just package it without the chrooted environment? [02:18] however you wish to obtain the list of build-dependencies is your prerogative. I've never favoured the approach you take, but it's certainly valid. [02:18] err, why are you executing that command? [02:19] why not `dpkg --configure -a` ? [02:19] the dbus package was [02:19] with an apt-get install [02:19] right, so does `apt-get -f [install] ` fail? [02:20] "install" being optional [02:21] but do I even need a chrooted environment to build the package if I've already compiled it and am running it on my machine? [02:21] yes apt-get -f install dbus fails [02:22] no, just `apt-get -f install` or `apt-get -f` [02:22] yes that fails, it tries to configure dbus and fails === damko [n=damko@host177-31-static.106-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] so, backing up, does `dpkg --configure -a` also fail? [02:23] yes [02:23] pass -D3773 to dpkg [02:24] guys the rdiff-backup in edgy and feisty is bugged [02:24] jmg: a bit late to do much about it now... === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] needs to be bumped to 1.1.7 [02:25] ...more verbosely? [02:25] at some point... [02:25] does it fail spectacularly when initialising? does it corrupt the stream? etc. [02:26] http://www.mail-archive.com/rdiff-backup-users@nongnu.org/msg01757.html [02:26] crimsun, if feisty release does get pushed back due to the kernel regressions, is there a chance in the freeze(s) on universe and such being reverted to reflect the new release date? [02:26] jmg: ok, so it's a one-liner? [02:27] superm1: being /reverted/ ? No chance in hade.s [02:27] crimsun: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/r/rdiff-backup/rdiff-backup_1.1.9-2/changelog [02:28] superm1: it does generally imply we may be a bit more harried/hurried in getting additional fixes in [02:28] crimsun: - fixes problem with device files handling as user (Closes: #395096). [02:28] crimsun: - fixes problems with storing to smbfs/cifs (Closes: #386983, #404947). [02:28] I get no output from the -D3773 [02:28] dcsmith: dpkg -D3773 --configure -a gives you /none/ ? [02:28] but I mean all of this is possibly irrelevant anyway [02:28] crimsun: barf on store to smb/cifsmount [02:28] dcsmith: yes, quite - you should create a feisty pbuilder and use it [02:29] crimsun: okay I assume that's in the wiki? === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:30] jmg: so we can backport that, sure [02:30] jmg: would you like to generate a debdiff? [02:30] crimsun: okay === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Bye] [02:30] dcsmith: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [02:31] jmg: whats the procedure? [02:31] crimsun: whats the procedure/ [02:31] crimsun: Thanks for the help, I appreciate it [02:32] jmg: backport the patch [http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/rdiff-backup-commits/2006-01/msg00011.html ] to the current feisty source package; regenerate the source package; generate a debdiff [02:32] `apt-get source rdiff-backup` for starters [02:32] oh, hmm, it's in main? [02:33] yeah [02:33] ack, that's even more inconvenient. [02:33] I'd go ahead and forget about trying it for feisty. Aim for feisty-updates. [02:33] crimsun: its an old bug [02:33] jmg: the procedure is outlined here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [02:34] crimsun: thanks [02:35] crimsun: in the meantime i enabled nfs on openfiler [02:35] :) === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-029-209.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945219.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] does anyone know how to write a message in the gnome "bubbles" / "pop-up" (the same that u can see when u unplug the AC for ex.) [03:05] have to go. bye!! === damko [n=damko@host177-31-static.106-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === tad_ [n=tad@cpe-76-188-55-109.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong_ [n=jdong@SIMMONS-FIVE-TWENTY-SIX.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong__ [n=jdong@SIMMONS-FIVE-TWENTY-SIX.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] nice levels... is -20 or +20 idle? [03:48] +20 [03:48] Because it's *very* nice. Wheras -20 is very not nice :) [03:48] RAOF: thx [03:55] funny [03:55] when renicing rdiff-backup [03:55] one must renice sshd as well [03:56] as the two are inexorably linked [03:56] Neither of those are likely to be horribly processor intensive, surely? [03:56] load average: 3.31, 2.90, 2.20 [03:57] they are processor intensive when they have work to do [03:57] eg, diffing 60gb of data [03:57] (p3-800) [03:58] Ah, OK. Still, they're probably more I/O than CPU bound, and nice doesn't touch I/O sheduling (although I *think* there's an ?experimental? I/O version of nice) [03:59] orly [03:59] much more I/O than cpu bound [03:59] ya, rly. === RAOF can't believe he just said that :( [03:59] but linux load average counts processes waiting for io [04:17] Yay! Down to a single page of Banshee bugs. === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] RAOF: ionice [04:19] RAOF: not experiemntal; but new on the blocks... works if your'e using the default CFQ io scheduler [04:19] s/blocks/block; no pun intended [04:19] AFAIK Feisty's kernel will inherit some IO niceness from cpu nice [04:20] Awesome. Cool. === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-179.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:20] it's awsome indeed. A bit of smart ionicing can do wonders to responsiveness [04:21] RAOF: banshee looks cool === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [n=stratus@201.53.55.52] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@complex1-372-179.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=l3ap@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] ajmitch or crimsun (or anyone else): We just got a patch into klamav and I think we may have fixed it a little TOO well. The update to a new version of clamav direct from upstream (compiles it on your local machine) now works. Is that a good/bad thing? Do we need to break it somehow? [04:47] explain further [04:47] ScottK: yes! more broken packages is even better! [04:47] you mean it overwrites the packaged clamav? [04:47] Yes [04:47] how rude [04:47] It looks like it works, however. === arejay [n=rj@unaffiliated/rj-] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] it may make future upgrades a little more annoying, and generally mess up things [04:48] Yes. [04:48] OTOH, when user X complains about the clamav freshclam warnings we can point them at klamav with suitable it's not supported warnings. [04:49] Before the latest patch, klamav would sigsegv when you checked for an update. [04:49] No it works GREAT. [04:49] heh [04:49] No/now [04:49] compare with similar processes in winduhz [04:50] virus scanners regularly swaps out application components in updates [04:50] The interesting thing is that it compiles right there on the machine. [04:50] as long as it doesnt add files that wont be managed by dpkg whats the issue? [04:50] I suppose that just disabling the update mechanism is pretty useless, for a virus scanner. [04:51] I'd built my clamav test packages on that same box, so I had all the build-depends installed already. [04:51] Dunno how easy it would be for joe average user to hunt all those up. [04:51] OTOH, depending on build-essential and liblkdjfalkjdrlkja needlessly bloats the installing system [04:51] right [04:52] Well, except if it's a function of the package to build software, it ought to be able to do that... [04:52] perhaps the security archive can carry the clamav components and latest definitions? [04:52] jmg: clamav is in universe, all it takes is more volunteer labor. [04:52] jmg: nobody is interested in assuming responsibility for clamav in main, that's the last I heard [04:52] ok [04:52] hey wait a minute [04:52] jmg: but one's welcome to keep it patched up in universe [04:52] we're on linux. [04:52] keescook: effectively does [04:52] The definitions come through freshclam just fine. It's the new versions that're the issue. [04:53] Hobbsee is correct. [04:53] riddle me a point for even running clamav [04:53] keescook: has been wonderful in clamav patching [04:53] jmg: file/mailserver for Windows machines [04:53] jmg: storing windows files on the box [04:53] & mail [04:53] jmg: I run MS Office throug WINE. [04:53] lol [04:53] pfft [04:53] did not expect to hear that one :D [04:53] Is wine now good enough to run windows viruses? :P [04:53] RAOF: no, it gets partway on some [04:53] All my customers use Office, so I've go no choice. [04:53] ScottK: is that because openoffice sucks? [04:53] RAOF: Dunno. === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-74-214.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:54] ScottK: so what happens when you run a windows virus under wine? does clamav even trap it? [04:54] or do you need to run Symantec under wine as well? [04:54] jmg: Because the Office data formats are proprietary and the ooo reverse engineering of them is not perfect. [04:54] jmg: Dunno. I haven't tried and I don't plan to experiment with it. [04:55] I don't actually use clamav on the desktop, I just run it on mailservers. [04:55] That was meant as an example. [04:55] Ok. I can see the rationale for clamav on file/mailservers. [04:55] But doesnt that make it -server's problem? [04:55] jmg: -server is a kernel. It's all one distro. [04:56] I also have it on a laptop because I've had to take it into facilities that require ALL computers to run AV software. [04:56] kernel and metapackages [04:56] yeah. [04:56] well it seems like you're fracked both ways [04:56] So, anyway ajmitch... I've now warned people. I dunno what the right answer is. [04:57] so I'm trying to build my first package, and I've built a source package, but when I try to install it, it fails, because it needs root to install into the directory [04:57] er [04:58] dcsmith: Did you build the binary package? [04:58] That's what gets installed. [04:58] you need root to install any package [04:58] ScottK: The problem occurs when trying to build the binary package [04:59] dcsmith: use fakeroot? [04:59] dcsmith: jmg is right. You need root to install anything. [04:59] ok [04:59] so let me walk through this [04:59] !packagingguide | dcsmith [04:59] dcsmith: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports [04:59] As Hobbsee says you can use fakeroot to get sort of root for building. [04:59] hey, what do you guys think would be the popularity of a ubuntu-media-center package [04:59] Right, I'm doing that right now [05:00] installs freevo, mplayer, codecs, lirc et al [05:00] To actually install the deb, you need to sudo dpkg -i [05:00] so I do a dpkg-buildpkg with fakeroot [05:00] as a metapackage [05:00] then I try to use pbuilder with sudo [05:01] dcsmith: check permissions. chown the source tree to yourself [05:01] and I get a permission denied installing some libraries [05:01] doesnt pbuilder drop privilege? [05:02] the src directory is owned by me [05:05] http://pastebin.ca/442245 [05:07] jmg: have you looked on the pastebin? [05:08] scottK: have you looked at the pastebin? [05:10] hello? === dcsmith_ [n=dcsmith@ool-4351bc6d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] Unfortunately I'm just on my way to bed. Hopefully someone else will be able to help you. [05:10] I've looked at the pastebin, and I'm not sure about some of the things that it's doing. === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-220-136.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:11] dcsmith_: Do know that everyone here is a volunteer. No one is paid to be here. [05:11] I understand [05:11] I think he knows that :) [05:11] dcsmith_: *Particularly*, why is it going "rm -rf debian/tmp" and then trying to install stuff from debian/tmp? [05:11] and I [05:11] 'm a volunteer [05:11] and I followed the packaging guide to the best of my ability [05:12] dcsmith_: try -mentors (is that still going?) [05:12] the rm -rf debian temp is from the packaging guide [05:12] I copied the pkging guide for the hello pkg [05:12] dcsmith_: You need to remove it from the temp dir after you install it. [05:12] dcsmith_: url to the guide you used? [05:12] Good night everyone. [05:12] as they're both configure/make/make install based I figured it didn't matter [05:12] Ooooh, it tooks like the "make install" is trying to install to install systemwide, where as it should be going to debian/tmp? [05:13] ah [05:13] --prefix [05:13] http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-scratch.html [05:13] Or $DESTDIR, one of the two :) [05:13] wow [05:13] $DESTDIR is generally better. [05:13] ok I get it [05:13] i get the problem at least [05:14] how do i destdir enable a configure make make install based src file [05:14] shouldn't that already be there === suppressingfire [n=burner@cpe-24-24-95-18.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] packaging guide should have at least 1 example [05:15] ok [05:15] same url I provided? [05:15] ajmitch: it doesnt [05:16] plenty of install -d [05:16] and cp [05:16] $(MAKE) install DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp [05:16] the template created by dh_make has it also [05:16] ajmitch: I upgraded to the current packaged clamav from the one that klamav pulled from upstream and it appears to have gone without error, so I think we are likely OK (or at least not in horrible trouble). [05:17] ajmitch: do I put that in the control? [05:17] rules [05:17] probably because the "packaging from scratch" page isn't the best place to start at all [05:17] indeed [05:17] ok where is? [05:18] dcsmith_: i imagine ajmitch is finding you a good place to start [05:19] sorry for being a little pushy [05:19] thanks guys for all your efforts [05:19] or ajmitch is busy at work [05:19] oh [05:19] heh === dcsmith [n=dcsmith@ool-4351bc6d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === suppressingfire [n=burner@cpe-24-24-95-18.stny.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp38-114.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Antioch [n=Asdf@ip68-5-14-187.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@cs27009116.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@a88-114-229-220.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === snoops [n=blah@203-97-119-118.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:34] Hi there, umm I've heard about the new importing system in feisty which imports im settings, desktop favourites etc while it installs.. I would love to add some features to it (but look at the code first)..Can someone give me some guidance on finding the code for it? === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] snoops: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~evand/migration-assistant/trunk === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:44] snoops: if you have any questions, just ask in here and I'll respond when I can (usually within a few hours) [07:52] thanks evand, I appreciate that === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:56] snoops: no problem [07:56] snoops: whoops, I thought we were in #ubuntu-installer. Ask questions in there as it's much lower traffic than -motu. [07:59] ah, cool === azeem_ [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-41-17.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F775BE.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:14] good morning === DarkMageZ_ [n=richard@ppp6-91.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-74-214.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macd [n=d@adsl-156-75-197.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macd [n=d@adsl-156-75-197.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macd [n=d@adsl-156-75-197.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-2-140.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guidolou@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dcsmith [n=dcsmith@ool-4351bc6d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:13] Okay so I think I've built my first package [09:14] Is there a way I can get people to review it without officially submitting it? [09:14] !revu [09:14] REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [09:14] REVU rocks. [09:14] Thanks [09:14] dcsmith: You'll need to have your key added to the revu keychain, though. Instructions on that page. === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C0B7A4.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:33] dcsmith: when you've added it, ping me, and I'll sync the keyring. === damko [n=damko@host177-31-static.106-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:33] siretart: ping [09:33] good morning to all [09:34] good morning damko [09:34] & hi crimsun [09:34] hallo raphink [09:34] crimsun: are you talking about REVU ? [09:34] (by any chance) [09:35] dcsmith: yep, just waiting on his confirmation that he has done the prelim steps so the keyring sync can be executed [09:35] good morning damko. In answer to your question, the libnotify-bin package contains the binary that you can use to make popup bubbles. [09:35] raphink: ^ [09:35] crimsun: did you notice that REVU has been broken for 5 days? [09:35] packages get in, they get in /var/revu [09:35] but they don't appear on the web interface [09:35] raphink: erck, no [09:35] I've been trying to ping siretart about that [09:35] look on the interface, there's no package listed after the 10th of April [09:36] although there are in /var/revu [09:36] raphink: I added a Banshee package yesterday, and it uploaded and appears? [09:36] ah right RAOF [09:36] hmmm [09:36] Although I suppose that got added to an existing pacakage. [09:36] well some packages don't show then [09:36] Maybe *new* pacakges don't show? [09:36] no packages got added on the 11th and 12th [09:37] RAOF: maybe [09:37] for example [09:37] tclodbc got uploaded twice in the last 4 days [09:37] crimsun: okay I joined the group [09:38] and doesn't appear [09:38] so I guess new packages don't make it in anymore [09:38] dcsmith: welcome ;) [09:38] ** keyring sync running [09:38] raphink: Thanks! === vi1 [n=lada@137.121.95.80.ip.b26.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] raphink: packages after april 10 do show [09:41] yes ajmitch that's right === ajmitch sees miniracer there [09:42] ajmitch: any example of *new*packages showing after that date? [09:42] ^ [09:42] ajmitch: several new packages added after the 10th of April (or even before maybe) don't show [09:42] miniracer [09:42] ok [09:42] for tclodbc: File "/srv/revu1-production/scripts/register_upload.py", line 51, in parse [09:42] then there's still to figure out what's special about these missing packages [09:42] raise 'Did not find maintainer email :(' [09:42] ah [09:42] where did you see that? [09:42] any other packages you know of? [09:43] ardour2 [09:43] RAOF: thanks a lot for your help. very appreciated :-D === ajmitch is reading cron output [09:44] ajmitch: do you keep all the emails, or are there logs on tiber? === ajmitch keeps all emails [09:44] or mayb in auth.log ? [09:44] ok [09:44] ;) [09:44] then I'm guilty of removing the emails ;) [09:44] remove emails? [09:45] harddrives are cheap :-) [09:45] huhu [09:45] :p [09:45] *Google's* harddrivers are cheaper :) [09:45] raphink: yeah, you're in the admin group, you should get them :) [09:45] I do get them ajmitch [09:45] ;) [09:45] but I remove them regularly (my fault) === ajmitch has about 15GB for ~/Mail [09:46] ajmitch: wowowowo :-) [09:46] ah no, only 12GB :) [09:46] RAOF: banshee available, marked "fix released". [09:46] raphink: ardour2 was archived [09:46] -rw------- 1 ajmitch ajmitch 1.8G 2007-04-16 19:41 launchpad [09:46] ajmitch: ah .... this changes everything .... only 12 [09:46] the result of subscribing to ubuntu-bugs [09:46] crimsun: Wooo! [09:46] As we aren't taking that route for that any more. [09:47] ** keyring sync completed === gortiz [n=gortiz@88.87.105.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:08] crimsun: Thanks, found a problem w/the pkg, so I wanna fix that before I upload === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@cs27009116.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch is very worried about the health of the monitor here - the screen seems to shrink & expand quickly every so often === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [10:24] what's that filename where I can specify my name, email address etc where dch gets the information from? [10:25] highvoltage: [10:25] daniel@lovegood:~$ grep DEB .bashrc [10:25] export DEBFULLNAME='Daniel Holbach' [10:25] export DEBEMAIL='daniel.holbach@ubuntu.com' [10:25] daniel@lovegood:~$ [10:25] probably ~/.devscripts.conf === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:26] sorry ~/.devscripts [10:26] dholbach: ah, thanks! [10:26] ajmitch: cool [10:26] np === ajmitch just has them in .bashrc though [10:26] for other useful tools like emacs :) [10:26] hmmm.. .devscripts doesn't exist, is there a tool that creates it? (I vaguely remember something like that) [10:26] nope === ajmitch may be wrong about setting DEBEMAIL & DEBFULLNAME there === highvoltage just puts them in .bashrc too :) === TheMuso_ [n=luke@dsl-220-235-192-49.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-22-147.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CrippledCanary [n=Crippled@h144n1fls33o1006.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:57] What's the status on revu today? I just uploaded a package but it doesn't show up. [10:57] <\sh> moins [10:57] hi \sh [10:58] CrippledCanary: depends if you're in the keyring [10:58] and if you uploaded a source-only package [10:58] & that it was to revu, not upload.ubuntu.com === ivoks [n=ivoks@wall2.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:59] I was in the keyring previously, it was a source package, perhaps the dput config has been changed. === ajmitch has no record of a failed upload [10:59] Ok... [10:59] The default has changed from revu to upload.ubuntu. I missed that one. [11:00] What is the current routine for uploading? [11:00] dput revu file_version_source.changes [11:01] dput I knew about... isnt revu used any more? [11:01] at all === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:02] yes it is [11:02] I wrote revu there [11:02] Ohh,.,,, [11:02] missed it. [11:02] thanks. [11:04] what's the difference between usint debsign and doing a gpg --clearsign file.dsc? === CrippledCanary [n=Crippled@h144n1fls33o1006.telia.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:04] somehow gpg --clearsign works fine, but debsign doesn't, it says that the secret key isn't available. [11:05] gpg --clearsign works though [11:05] debsign probably uses what's in DEBEMAIL [11:06] or not, looks like it should parse the .changes file for the email address to match [11:08] I think it gets it from the changelog === jekil [n=alessand@host194-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:12] hello [11:13] jekil: hi === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cedrick_ [n=cedrick@243.155.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:22] imbrandon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/sacater [11:23] imbrandon: how does that look for tommorow === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F775BE.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:31] sacater: be aware that the CC may look for more substantial demonstrated involvement, but if you have hearty advocates, it may not be a problem. === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:31] sacater: my suggestion is that you expand your "future plans" section. While noble, it doesn't address Ubuntu users foremost. [11:32] (not that one must neglect the F/LOSS community at large for the sake of Ubuntu) === dholbach__ [n=daniel@i59F775BE.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] F/LOSS? [11:38] crimsun: [11:39] Free/Libre and Open Source Software [11:39] So, is Feisty going to be released withoutn an RC? === vorn [n=vorn@82.152.192.134] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-225.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:58]