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gnomefreakill be here asap tomorrow i need to shut this pos down or ill be pinged all night03:03
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asacola09:18
DarkMageZsup asac09:18
asac:)09:18
DarkMageZasac, if you've got any more questions about LP #75758. i'm around for another 4 hours before that sleep thing has to happen09:19
asachehe09:20
asacbug 7575809:20
ubotuMalone bug 75758 in firefox "Firefox doesn't display new windows in new tabs despite option being set" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7575809:20
asaccrazy bug09:20
asacDarkMageZ: can you ping firefox?09:21
DarkMageZasac, we can fix it locally if we don't mind the default option being open in new tab. but without me gaining a degree in firefoxology, i'm not sure exactly what the problem is09:21
asacDarkMageZ: when ffox is running, does09:24
asacfirefox -remote 'openURL(http://www.google.com, new-window)'09:24
asacwork09:24
asac?09:24
asac... try replace new-window by new-tab if that worked09:24
Admiral_Chicagoare we trying to do something like firefox -remote "openURL(%u,new-tab)"09:25
asacno ... just want to find out if DarkMageZ's firefox is remote reachable09:25
Admiral_Chicagonot sure, bit too busy to investigate09:25
asac:)09:25
Admiral_Chicagoah okay09:25
=== DarkMageZ reverts firefox to ubuntu's build... but is not sure how that is relevant exactly
DarkMageZasac, under a default ubuntu profile that opens in a new window.09:31
asacDarkMageZ: yeah might be related09:31
asacDarkMageZ: let me first get a coffee ... i have the feeling that I don't see what your bug is :)09:32
DarkMageZasac, wait. basically you're looking far too deep into it and missing the simplicity09:33
DarkMageZnow have a coffee09:33
asacok lets look at the surface09:53
asacDarkMageZ: ok firefox http://somedomain.tld opens correctly in new-tab, right?09:56
asacDarkMageZ: so what doesn't work for you? only for fresh profile?09:58
DarkMageZback. had to get a coffee.10:00
DarkMageZasac, ok. let me demonstrate.10:00
DarkMageZclose firefox. rename ~/.mozilla to something else.10:01
DarkMageZand then launch firefox10:01
DarkMageZonce that's done, goto www.google.co.uk and hit the preferences link10:01
asacok let me try10:02
asacthat link just opens the new page ... not in new-window ... nor tab?10:03
DarkMageZwait wait. so scroll down to the bottom and select "Open search results in a new browser window. "10:03
DarkMageZand save preferences10:03
DarkMageZthen do a search for something10:03
asacyeah10:04
asacok works10:04
asacnow lets move the profile10:04
DarkMageZwait10:04
DarkMageZso if you look in the preferences10:04
DarkMageZnotice how it is set to open new windows in a tab instead?10:04
DarkMageZor are you still under your main profile?10:04
asacDarkMageZ: yes right10:05
asaci see that it doesn't open in new-tab by default10:05
asacnow lets try10:05
asacto reset setting10:05
asack ... its broken10:06
asacfirefox-trunk package works10:06
asachmm10:06
DarkMageZso you see how it's borked in ubuntu's package?10:06
DarkMageZbasically, it's a core vs gui settings inconsistency which burns users10:07
DarkMageZthe gui pulls the what it thinks the settings are from elsewhere10:08
asacDarkMageZ: interesting10:08
DarkMageZeven tho ubuntu has changed the default core setting from the 3 which is tab to a 2 which is open in window10:08
asacif you start firefox with fresh profile10:08
asacin about:config open_newwindow has value 210:09
asacwhich means -> newwindow10:09
asacso behaviour is right10:09
asachowever somehow in preference panel the radio button is wrong10:09
asacDarkMageZ: its not borked in upstream?10:10
DarkMageZmmhmm, i'm not sure exactly. but i believe the radio button data is pulled from a result of prefs.js in the userprofile vs some other file10:10
DarkMageZasac, the issue which causes the problem aka radiobutton not consistent with the core is upstream. but what causes the out of sync can be fixed by us10:11
asacok the ui is driven by browser.link.open_external10:11
asacwhile behaviour is driven by browser.link.open_newwindow10:11
asacat least thats what i guess10:11
asacdefault settings are at odds10:12
asacDarkMageZ: can you verify that?10:12
asace.g. if you switch settings ... the combination of those settings never gets to same state as by default10:12
asacyou can see how values change if you keep about:config open in background10:13
asacwith search for link10:13
DarkMageZconfirmed10:14
DarkMageZso basically, we either can remove those lines i've mentioned or add more lines to fix that other preference to 2 as well10:14
asacso upstream tarball doesn't have this behaviour?10:14
asaci think we want newtab for both10:14
asacDarkMageZ: can you test if things work if you tweak default settings in10:15
asac/usr/share/firefox/defaults/pref/firefox.js10:15
asac?10:15
DarkMageZupstream is consistently 3. we made the change to have 2 on browser.link.open_newwindow10:16
asacyep ... i remember that ... if you verfiy that we tweaking both helps I will either drop our patch or move both to 210:16
DarkMageZi recompiled ubuntu's firefox earlier today with that part removed and it makes it consistent and working10:17
asack10:20
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asacDarkMageZ: ok .... "In Progress" :)10:22
DarkMageZyay10:23
asacDarkMageZ: maybe use firefox-trunk package :)10:23
DarkMageZoh, it's fixed on my main profile. it's just that i don't like to see new users burnt10:24
asacyeah ... i ment .... if you use our testing repo you can help discover bugs early :)10:24
asacthere will be next-generation firefox packages soon ... not only trunk10:25
asac#deb http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing feisty main10:25
asac#deb-src http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing feisty main10:25
DarkMageZoh, the firefox trunk packages. already there, rebuilding them with wmode patches10:26
asacwmode?10:26
asacyes -trunk package is in there10:26
DarkMageZthe reason www.guildwars.com fails to look sexy with flash installed10:26
asacyou have upstream bug?10:26
DarkMageZyup10:27
DarkMageZhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13718910:27
ubotuMozilla bug 137189 in Plug-ins "Windowless plug-in support for X (WMODE)" [Normal,Assigned] 10:27
DarkMageZoh cute. ubotu knows how to handle that10:27
asacyeah10:29
asaci can integrate that patch to -trunk package10:29
asacwhy is flash a windowless plugin10:29
asachmm10:29
asacgood to know :)10:30
DarkMageZyeah. that should help with weird flash transparency bugs you run into :)10:31
DarkMageZalso apparantly menu's hiding under flash objects10:31
asacthe patch still has problems, right?10:32
DarkMageZnot sure, never managed to get it to apply cleanly and compile sucessfully10:33
DarkMageZtho if you want a demonstration of the potential fixes it provides. firefox vs konqueror on www.adobe.com's menus :)10:35
DarkMageZwith flash enabled10:35
asaci have no konqueror ... and feel bad installing any of the kde stuff :)10:36
DarkMageZhmm, opera might work10:36
asaceven worse :)10:36
asacbut i believe you are right10:36
DarkMageZthe only reason i use firefox is due to the adblock plus plugin and the interface isn't horrible10:37
DarkMageZif you do manage to get the wmode patch working, give me a buzz. i'll rebuild it here.10:40
asaci guess, i will talk to roc about more general plugin things soon ... so i can ask him about this as well10:41
asacDarkMageZ: you could try to do a three-way merge with diff on trunk from the date the patch has been submitted10:44
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asacDarkMageZ: ok ... i added it to my todo ... probably discussion will go on in upstream bug after i talked to roc10:45
asacotherwise feel free to ping me regularaly10:46
DarkMageZi'll try and catch up on how things are going when i've got time (college holidays now)10:47
gnomefreakasac: on the tabs in fx there is an x to close it. is that hardcoded into souce?10:47
asacgnomefreak: depends on what you cann "hardcoded" :)10:48
asacwhy would you wanna change it?10:48
asacs/cann/call/10:48
gnomefreakasac: iceape is missing them10:48
asacgnomefreak: yes ... iceape has a different widget set10:49
asacit doesn't use the firefox toolkit, but xpfe10:49
gnomefreakso not something easy to add10:49
asacnope ... however, there is http://multizilla.mozdev.org/10:50
=== gnomefreak was going through what changes can be done before wolling official build
asacwhich actually introduced tabs first10:50
asacmaybe its still maintained10:50
gnomefreaklooking10:50
asacit has enhanced tabs now that main browsers have tabs as well10:51
asaclet me know if its great :)10:51
gnomefreaklooks like its still maintained10:51
gnomefreakproblem being its 1.8.310:52
asacand?10:53
gnomefreakok its saved for something for me to read. im waiting for coffee first10:53
asacsure10:54
gnomefreaki read it wrong its not for gecko 1.8.3 but that is the version of it10:54
asacyeah10:54
gnomefreakits before 5am10:54
asacanyway iceape 1.1.x is gecko 1.8.x10:54
asacgnomefreak: man ... go to bed again10:54
gnomefreak1.8.0 i though10:55
gnomefreakt10:55
asac1.0.x is based on 1.8.0.x10:55
asace.g. same like ffox/tbird 1.5.0.x are based on 1.8.0.x while ffox 2.0.0.x is based on 1.8.x10:55
gnomefreakgod i hope this is a joke or its really too early This is the all American way of saying: It might toast your computer. It might get you totally freaked out, because something didn't work as expected.10:56
asacups10:56
gnomefreakthat tells me we need to wait ;)10:56
asacgnomefreak: you think you can make an update to firefox trunk?10:56
asace.g. apr 15 ?10:56
asacin your archive i have 040410:56
gnomefreaki can try10:57
gnomefreakdid you update it already on truck?10:57
gnomefreakbranch10:57
gnomefreaknot trunk10:57
=== gnomefreak running merge atm
asacno ... i am still working on migrating patches so we have 2.0.0.x with same package layout10:58
gnomefreakok your not done with it.10:58
asacgnomefreak: there are no updates in trunk10:58
asacyou just need to change changelog10:58
asacand update orig10:58
asaci am currently building your packages on amd6410:59
gnomefreakjust the version and fakeroot debian/rules orig?10:59
asaci think its neworig ... but yes10:59
gnomefreakoh yeah10:59
asacyou don't need to add a new changelog entry10:59
asacjust tweak the current topmost10:59
gnomefreakwait a minute /me cant build 6410:59
asacyes ... thats why i am building them :) ... which is way i realized that -trunk is "really" outdated :-D10:59
=== asac just kidding
gnomefreak;)11:00
gnomefreakyeah let me know what its ready and ill see about it. please tell me > 1 hour11:01
asacsure ... i am building both ... so iu guess about 1.2h11:02
asac+ time to upload somewhere11:02
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gnomefreakasac: if your building both feel free to upload to my repo ;)11:08
asachow?11:08
asaci can put them in some dir ... and you move and regen release stuff et al?11:08
asachttps://launchpad.net/%7Easac/+sshkeys11:10
asacadd any of those to authorized_keys .... if you want11:10
gnomefreakoh thats right crap11:12
gnomefreaki cant :(11:13
gnomefreakif you upload them using ftp i can ssh in and do the release work11:13
gnomefreakits not my domain just a part of someone elses so they would have to add the ssh keys right?11:14
gnomefreakthe reason i sugggested that is i would like to get started on the libnss ect... for iceape build today. hoping when gutsy repos open i can build a chroot and build the package as is for gutsy to start with.11:17
=== gnomefreak thinks it should be as simple as ftp'ing in to my repo to add the packages i can than create a release for 64bit and than gen the release for top dir and sign the top-dir release
gnomefreakbut leet me know wha tyou decide when its done.11:20
gnomefreaki can always download and than upload them11:20
gnomefreakasac: and when you get time let me know how to add the libnss and friends support. (im thinking its just add them to depends11:24
asacgnomefreak: you already build them?11:28
asaclibnspr and libnss (e.g. from debian svn) ?11:28
gnomefreaki have to build them sepertately?11:28
asacgnomefreak: ok ftp is fine11:28
asacthats the idea of next-gen packages ... libnss and libnspr get their own source11:29
asaci already registered products in launchpad11:29
asacand will checkin initial version soon (basically unmodified debian svn branch)11:29
gnomefreakok how do i go about finding the svn from debian?11:29
asacgnomefreak: start: http://svn.debian.org11:30
asacthere are all11:30
gnomefreakty11:30
asacthere is pkg-mozilla11:30
asacnavigate till you find nss11:30
asacbut you need nspr first :)11:30
asace.g. nss depends on nspr11:30
ajmitchyay for split packaging :)11:31
gnomefreakajmitch: yay this :(11:31
gnomefreaklol11:31
ajmitchwhat are the nss/nspr versions involved?11:31
asaclatest11:31
asachttp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/nspr/releases/v4.6.6/11:32
gnomefreakthis is bad11:32
gnomefreakfirefox cant open svn11:32
asachttp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/security/nss/releases/NSS_3_11_5_RTM/11:32
asacgnomefreak: no it can't11:32
gnomefreakaddresses11:32
ajmitchgreat, thanks11:32
asacthere is http link on right11:32
gnomefreaki see it now11:33
gnomefreakok so i need to build nspr and nss11:33
asacgnomefreak: once you have the path you have to checkout with svn://svn.debian.org/path/nspr/trunk/11:33
asacyes start with nspr11:33
gnomefreakok so go with trunk11:33
asacyeah ... trunk contains "debian trunk" ... its for the latest stable branch upstream11:34
asacthere is nothing else in there11:34
gnomefreakand it looks like stop at debian dir11:34
gnomefreakthan it lists patches and such11:34
asacyeah ... just contains debian dir11:36
asaclike iceape ... like firefox-trunk11:36
gnomefreakso where do i get the source from?11:37
gnomefreakassuming we are building this same way as iceape (grab seamonkey source) add debian to it11:37
asacread above11:37
asaci just posted11:37
asacabout -15 lines11:38
gnomefreakgnomefreak: once you have the path you have to  checkout with svn://svn.debian.org/path/nspr/trunk/11:38
DarkMageZhttp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/security/nss/releases/NSS_3_11_5_RTM/11:38
gnomefreaksvn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-mozilla/nspr/trunk/debian  is the path11:38
=== gnomefreak missed that i guess
asacjust checkout full trunk11:39
asacgnomefreak: for svn:/ uri you have to remove wsvn from path you see in browser11:40
gnomefreakah11:40
gnomefreaksvn checkout svn.debian.org/pkg-mozilla/nspr/trunk/ beeter :)11:41
gnomefreaknope11:41
gnomefreakfrom the help page that should have worked11:42
asacyou miss the scheme11:42
asacsvn://11:42
gnomefreakyeah i saw11:43
gnomefreakuse the mt build?11:43
gnomefreakand does it have to match iceapes?11:44
asacgnomefreak: wait a second ... currently creating bzr branch11:45
asacgnomefreak: look launchpad ~mozillateam code panel11:45
asacgnomefreak: found?11:48
gnomefreakits loading11:48
gnomefreakso bzr clone?11:49
asacyes11:49
asachttps://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/nspr/nspr-svn.debian.org.trunk11:49
asacthough you can push to that branch ... please don't push any mozillateam changes11:50
asaconly debian changes should end up in that branch11:50
asacif there are updates and you want to do the sync, ask me11:50
asacif we have changes for ubuntu we will have a second branch11:50
asacwhich is derived from the debian onw11:50
asacwhich is derived from the debian one11:50
gnomefreakk11:51
gnomefreakstill only end up with debina dir. that was the same thing i got using svn so i still have to grab the source and mv debian into it?11:53
gnomefreakor is it safe to use neworig11:54
asacyes11:55
asacyou have to do same as iceape11:55
asacyou just have to extract the tarball11:55
asacnspr one11:55
asacinside11:55
asacthen run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot11:55
gnomefreakthats what i thought11:58
gnomefreakwe can leave versioning the same or should i change it to something.12:01
asacok ... downloading server images12:01
asaci have to do tests today12:01
asachmmm ... please use a lower debian version12:02
asace.g.12:02
asac-1ubuntu0.mt112:02
asacinstead of -212:02
gnomefreakok so nspr-4.6.6-1ubuntu0.mt112:03
asacyes12:03
gnomefreakok dont add lib to front?12:03
gnomefreakas in libnspr or it will build it?12:04
asac?12:04
asacjust keep it the way it is12:04
gnomefreakextracting source left me with nspr-4.6.6 and you want it left that way ok cool12:04
gnomefreakhmmmmmm that is odd12:05
asacyeah12:06
asacmv the mozilla dir from with that one to toplevel12:06
asacand remove empty nspr-4.6.612:06
gnomefreakmv nspr-4.6.6 mozilla?12:06
asacno12:07
asacread :)12:07
asacthere is a mozilla dir inside12:07
gnomefreakyes12:07
asacthat one needs to be on toplevel12:07
gnomefreakah12:07
gnomefreakok its in top dir but now i have the nspr-4.6.6 dir and mozilla dir. should i change the name of mozilla to nspr-4.6.6 now?12:09
gnomefreakgnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/libnspr_build$ ls12:09
gnomefreakmozilla  nspr-4.6.6  nspr-4.6.6.tar.gz12:09
asacno ... read :)12:10
gnomefreakyou said put it in top dir.12:10
gnomefreakits there12:10
asac12:06 < asac> and remove empty nspr-4.6.612:10
asac:)12:10
asaci guess its still pretty early for you :)12:11
gnomefreakand now change the name of mozilla as normal?12:11
gnomefreakits 6am :(12:11
asacno keep it12:11
gnomefreakoh ok12:11
asacmozilla is fine12:11
asacjust remove empty dir12:11
asacafter that you can rename nspr*.tar.gz to .orig.tar.gz12:11
gnomefreakim gonna have to use fakeroot debian/rules source i think12:11
asacthen you can build12:12
gnomefreakoh12:12
asacno12:12
gnomefreakok12:12
asacthe source is onmodified12:12
asacunmodified12:12
asac:)12:12
gnomefreakah i see :)12:12
asacthus you just have to rename nspr-4.x.x.tar.gz to nspr_4.x.x.orig.tar.gz12:12
gnomefreakyeah12:12
asacWATCH - -> _12:12
asaci will probably add a "source" target to do all this to ubuntu branch12:13
=== gnomefreak watching
asac;)12:13
gnomefreakok12:13
gnomefreaknow name it in changle log change control maintainers and build?12:13
gnomefreakoh wtf12:14
asacYes12:15
gnomefreakit ended up weird so i am gonna retry it12:16
gnomefreakbut i ended up with a ...pub dir inside mozilla and no debian12:16
gnomefreaknsprpub is inside mozilla12:18
=== gnomefreak guessing it shouldnt be there
gnomefreakfixing12:20
asacit should be12:21
asacits all fine12:21
asacin top level you have12:21
asacdebian/12:21
asacmozilla/12:21
asacin mozilla/12:21
asacyou have nsprpub/12:21
gnomefreaki dont want mozilla/debian?12:22
asacwhy mozilla/debian12:22
asaci have no idea what you are doing12:22
asacthe directory structure is just different to the firefox one12:23
gnomefreakso in top dir i want tar.gz mozilla and debian?12:23
asacjust don't bother12:23
asacno tar.gz12:23
asacjust mozilla and debian12:23
asacits not embedded tarball12:23
asacstyle12:23
asacdon't get confused :)12:24
asacits like iceape12:24
asacbut upstream directory layout is of course different12:24
asacand we don't need to fixup orig.tar.gz12:24
asacits just plain whats ships from upstream12:24
gnomefreakafter extracting source i get nspr-4.6.6 and i remove that and mv mozilla in its place. to now i have source and mozilla12:24
gnomefreakinside mozilla all i want is that nsprpub/ dir12:25
asacno ... you want whatever came out12:25
asacjust don't touch the mozilla dir ... its all fine12:25
gnomefreakthat is what is in there12:25
asacyes12:26
asacthen its fine12:26
asac:)12:26
gnomefreakok and debian goes inside mozilla also12:26
asacnono12:26
asacyou start witz bzr checkout12:26
asacaeh12:26
asacbranch/clone12:26
asacright?12:26
gnomefreakyes12:26
asacthis gives you a directory12:27
asacwith debian/12:27
gnomefreakit gives me debian dir12:27
gnomefreakyes12:27
asacno it gives you a directory + debian12:27
asacinside directory you place mozilla dir12:27
asacthats it12:27
asac(of course place orig.tar.gz next to directory)12:27
gnomefreakyes12:27
asacin directory you have only mozilla + debian12:27
asacthen just build12:28
gnomefreakwhen i cloned it i named it nspr-trunk-gnomefreak12:28
asac:)12:28
asacyes12:28
gnomefreakinside ther ei have debian12:28
asacthen thats your dir :)12:28
asacthen directory=nspr-trunk-gnomefreak12:28
asacinside nspr-trunk-gnomefreak you have debian + mozilla12:28
asac+12:28
gnomefreaki want to add the source and mozilla dir inside nspr-trunk-gnomefreak12:29
asacnext to nspr-trunk-gnomefreak you have: orig.tar.gz12:29
gnomefreakoh next to it?12:29
asacyes12:29
asacnspr-trunk-gnomefreak is top-level package directory12:29
gnomefreakyes in ~/12:29
gnomefreakpath == ~/nspr-trunk-gnomefreak/debian+mozilla12:30
gnomefreakso you state place source next to ~/nspr-trunk-gnomefreak   that means its gonna sit in my home dir12:30
asacyes ... if you cloned to homedir then yes12:31
gnomefreakk12:31
asacplease call source .orig.tar.gz12:31
asac:)12:31
gnomefreakyes12:31
asaci get confused otherwise12:31
asacbecause everything is some kind of source12:32
gnomefreakok now just add entry to changelog and build as normal12:34
gnomefreakim just scared its not gonna find the orig tar12:35
asacorig.tar.gz is always in same dir as the directory that *contains* the debian/ dir12:38
asace.g. in your case $HOME ... as your debian/ dir is in nspr-trunk-gnomefreak12:38
gnomefreakk12:38
asac$HOME/nspr-trunk-gnomefreak12:38
gnomefreakchangelog == merged from debian12:39
gnomefreakas the entry12:39
asacwhatever you like12:40
asacmaybe "mozillateam release"12:40
asacas well12:40
gnomefreaksounds better12:40
gnomefreakchanged maintainer in contrl to you12:42
asaci am unsure about this ... but for now ok12:43
gnomefreakas soon as i can spell12:43
gnomefreakwell i have to have someone with ubutu.com address12:43
gnomefreakubuntu.12:43
gnomefreakcan easily be changed12:44
asacanyone has icq account? wanted to go online with gaim but somehow i cannot connect to mirabilis12:44
gnomefreaki dont use icq sorry12:44
asacsure12:44
gnomefreakthat was fast12:48
asacyes12:48
asacpretty small12:48
asacok12:48
asacnss has landed as well12:48
asacoh not yet12:49
asacnow it should be avail12:49
asacfrom bzr12:49
asacyou can find either on mozillateam code page or nss product code page12:49
gnomefreakk12:50
gnomefreaksame way?12:50
asacyes exactly same way12:50
asacsource url was given above somewhere :)12:50
gnomefreakyeah i saw it12:50
asacyou need to install nspr packages to build it12:50
gnomefreakok12:51
gnomefreakhmmmmmmmmm12:51
asacmight need to remove old libnspr12:54
asaclibnspr-dev to be exact12:55
gnomefreakk12:56
Admiral_Chicagoasac: if I go to clear private data and check browsing history, cache and cookies, my authenticated sessions close. this is a bug no?12:59
gnomefreaklibnspr4-dev conflicts with libnspr4 libnspr4 (version 2:1.firefox2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2) is installed.01:00
gnomefreakproblem being when i built nspr it built libnspr4-0d-dbg named packages not sure wtf the 0d is for.01:02
gnomefreaklibnspr4-0d_4.6.6-1ubuntu0.mt1_i386.deb is exact name of package01:03
asacAdmiral_Chicago: yes01:04
Admiral_Chicagoreported/01:04
asacgnomefreak: don't think to much :) ... just resolve the conflicts and build01:04
Admiral_Chicago*?01:04
Admiral_Chicagoblah, can't spell at this hour01:04
asacAdmiral_Chicago: no ... its not a bug01:04
asacauthenticated session == cookies01:04
Admiral_Chicagoso what is the distinction?01:05
asacheh?01:05
asacsorry ... wait a sec01:05
asachave to look at dialog01:05
asacAdmiral_Chicago: yes01:06
asacthe distinction is :) ... what you refer to as authenticated session01:06
asacisn't such a thing01:07
asace.g. if you log into yahoo and say ... stay logged in, this is no authenticated sessino, but a cookie01:07
asacif you go to some HTTP authentication site, thats a authenticated session01:07
Admiral_Chicagoah okay didn't know there was a difference.01:07
asacits a technical difference and might confuse users01:07
asacbut as long as we have a better idea, there is not much we can do :)01:08
gnomefreakonly way i have seen to resolve the conflits is to remove 41 packages including firefox and friends01:09
Admiral_Chicagothanks, I thought I had a bug01:09
asacgnomefreak: yes01:10
asacuse a clean chroot to build01:10
asacbinary libnspr will not require to remove them01:10
asacjust for building01:10
asac... or just resolve conflict by removing :)01:11
gnomefreakchanging to chroot01:12
gnomefreakok so i want to upload these than change depends in iceape?01:34
gnomefreakone thing i did notice is neither built a .diff01:36
asacgnomefreak: for iceape ... change depends + add --with-system-nspr and --with-system-nss to CONFIGURE_FLAGS in debian/rules01:44
gnomefreakk01:45
asacgnomefreak: remove explicit depends01:45
asacfrom binary packages in control01:45
asacdh_shlibs should automatically detect them now01:45
asacjust keep change Build-Depends: ... and remove from Depends:01:45
asacgnomefreak: use trunk for iceape now01:47
asacit has been merged01:47
asace.g. on trunk is now latest iceape 1.1.x01:47
asacnot experimental anymore01:47
asaci think nspr and nss changes are already there01:47
asace.g. system nspr/nss01:48
gnomefreakmozilla trunk?01:48
asacno01:50
asacdebian svn01:50
asacyou currently start from experimental there01:50
asacnow you can use trunk01:50
asace.g. http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-mozilla/iceape/trunk01:50
asacok?01:50
asacin fact experimental branch is removed ... so maybe it automatically did that for you ... but better re-checkout iceape trunk from svn.debian.org01:51
gnomefreakok01:53
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gnomefreak@schedule new_york02:21
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gnomefreakmike seems to have downgraded iceape with new fixes :( why did he do that :(02:24
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asacgnomefreak: how are things going?03:34
gnomefreaki havent tried it yet03:38
gnomefreaknot sure how im gonna deal with version change with debian03:38
gnomefreakand its gonna be a while grabbing build-deps for iceape in chroot03:40
asack03:40
gnomefreakif i can find a way to force downgrade03:41
gnomefreakwould be nice03:41
gnomefreakit would be wrong if i left it 1.1.1-3 wouldnt it03:46
asacyes ... choose something greater then we had previously and smaller than 1.1.1-303:50
gnomefreaklike 1.1.1-2.mt5 or better yet 1.1.1-2-1ubuntu0.mt5 or something like that. my brain hasnt found the on switch yet03:51
asacwhat did we use before?03:53
gnomefreak1.1.1-3.mt4 i think is our last build03:54
gnomefreakyep it is03:54
asacindeed ... thats borked03:54
asaclets hope that mike will bump to -4 again03:55
gnomefreaki was thinking it would read the number in order so it would see the -2 and say screw it cant touch this03:55
asacthen for now use mt503:55
asacyes03:55
gnomefreakproblem being -3 == experimental03:55
asacyes ... same as trunk03:55
gnomefreakok -3mt503:55
asachowever we should never increase versions if the version from debian is not yet released03:55
asacjust to keep in mind of next time03:55
gnomefreaktrue03:56
asacso if debian upgrades to 1.1.1-4 we stay at 1.1.1-3.mtX03:56
=== gnomefreak will tell you to bug the hell out of mike next time :P
asacwhy ... its our fault03:56
asacwe should have used -303:56
gnomefreakwell for universe we will go to 2-0ubuntu1 assuming03:56
gnomefreakour fault?03:57
asacyes03:57
asacyour fault :)03:57
gnomefreakwe used -3 he used -2 for unstable03:57
asacof course mine as well03:57
asacyes03:57
gnomefreakwe should have waiting for unstable release than03:57
asacyes03:57
asacif we base on something released03:57
asacwe add .mtX03:57
gnomefreakyeah03:57
asacif we base on something unreleased03:57
asacwe have to take care that our version is smaller than that what will be released03:58
asacsense?03:58
gnomefreakyeah03:58
gnomefreakiirc 1.0.8 was in unstable at the time we merged from experimental03:59
asacdoesn't matter where it is released03:59
asac1.1.1-2 was released to experimental03:59
asacwe should have stayed at 1.1.1-2.mtX then03:59
gnomefreak1.1.1-3 was03:59
asacwas?03:59
gnomefreakthats when i grabbed it04:00
asacreally?04:00
gnomefreakyes04:00
gnomefreakvery much so04:00
gnomefreakyou told me to keep the -304:00
asacok ... then its not our fault04:00
asaclets stay at -304:00
gnomefreakk04:00
asaci will bump debian changelog to -404:00
gnomefreakok cool04:00
asacso we are again lower04:00
asac:)04:00
gnomefreak:) that works04:00
asacfine ... tbird 2 already build ... now i need to install files to proper packages ... then i will push it to bzr as well04:01
asacof course only if it starts :)04:01
gnomefreakgoodie :)04:01
asacdamn i have 550 unread bugmail again04:05
asacits like a curse :)04:05
asacha04:06
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/GettingStarted04:06
asacdesktop team had ~60000 bugmails last year04:06
asaci have 6000 alone for firefox/tbird since feb 2804:07
gnomefreaklol04:09
asaci guess that number should to into my mozillateam newsletter :)04:11
asacwhich i currently prepare to inform community and developers about mozilla progress04:11
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gnomefre1kasac: ill screw with it tomorrow winds are knocking out power thats 3rd time this morning04:21
gnomefre1kill try to be back a little later if they calm down04:22
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