| superm1 | coax input | 12:24 |
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| majoridiot | weird stuff | 12:24 |
| superm1 | the really weird thing - | 12:25 |
| majoridiot | definitely has problem with the white blalance colorspace. | 12:25 |
| superm1 | it was fixed perfectly by unplugging a webcam | 12:25 |
| superm1 | the webcam was /dev/video0 | 12:25 |
| superm1 | and ivtv was /dev/video0 | 12:25 |
| superm1 | and ivtv was /dev/video`1 | 12:25 |
| superm1 | and ivtv was /dev/video1 | 12:25 |
| superm1 | third times a charm :) | 12:25 |
| superm1 | he unplugged the webcam, rebooted - ivtv got /dev/video0 and things worked fine | 12:25 |
| majoridiot | so the webcam driver is buggy | 12:25 |
| superm1 | spitting garbage all over the rest of v4l devices though? | 12:26 |
| superm1 | that seemed a bit odd to me | 12:26 |
| majoridiot | unless it's some sort of ivtv quirk on that particular hardware | 12:27 |
| majoridiot | i've never had any problems with ivtv running at /dev/video1 or /dev/video2 | 12:27 |
| superm1 | he was very excited though that things were up and running. he said feisty was by far the easiest myth install ever following the help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV guides | 12:27 |
| superm1 | yea me either | 12:27 |
| majoridiot | who was this? | 12:28 |
| superm1 | bramblewhalen or whalenster | 12:28 |
| superm1 | he goes by both | 12:28 |
| majoridiot | ah. k. not familiar. | 12:29 |
| superm1 | i've spoke with him on and off for some time | 12:29 |
| majoridiot | Xenocide was doing a fresh feisty install yesterday and was quite pleased as well | 12:29 |
| superm1 | ah wonderful | 12:29 |
| superm1 | I think i saw chad pop in here at some point to (i was only at my comp about 3 minutes yesterday - enough time to see the irc channel list) | 12:30 |
| majoridiot | he was in later last night | 12:30 |
| majoridiot | comcast is hosing him on firewire... we discussed it a bit. | 12:31 |
| superm1 | oh no? | 12:31 |
| superm1 | i thought 5C was abolished | 12:31 |
| superm1 | with comcast | 12:31 |
| majoridiot | well, i don't think the problem is 5C, but i'm not sure | 12:31 |
| superm1 | well of course they always give everyone the runaround with regard to *getting* the box | 12:32 |
| superm1 | you pointed him at the fcc docs i assume? | 12:32 |
| majoridiot | anyway, nothing but OTA will go out over firewire and that's against the law. | 12:32 |
| superm1 | well not true. | 12:32 |
| majoridiot | i pointed him at the statutes | 12:32 |
| superm1 | i never got anything but analog and OTA over firewire in rochester last year after time warner locked down my firewire box | 12:32 |
| superm1 | and i pushed and pushed and got nowhere | 12:33 |
| majoridiot | you pushed in the wrong places ;) | 12:33 |
| majoridiot | lol | 12:33 |
| superm1 | well there is a technicality to your statement | 12:33 |
| superm1 | if nothing but OTA goes out thru firewire period, then thats against the law | 12:34 |
| majoridiot | without a special determination, the must allow for timeshifting and reording of non pay-per view and it is hardware neutral | 12:34 |
| majoridiot | exept with repect to the internet and cable modems | 12:34 |
| superm1 | now if everything but OTA doesn't go out in unecyrypted format, thats legal - as long as its available with the proper encryption | 12:34 |
| majoridiot | nope. | 12:34 |
| majoridiot | sec | 12:34 |
| superm1 | then how are they gettign away with 5C everywhere in the country - this makes no sense to me then..... | 12:35 |
| majoridiot | (1) Commercial audiovisual content shall not be encoded so as to prevent or limit copying thereof except as follows: | 12:35 |
| majoridiot | (i) To prevent or limit copying of video-on-demand or pay-per-view transmissions, subject to the requirements of paragraph (b)(2) of this section; and | 12:35 |
| majoridiot | (ii) To prevent or limit copying, other than first generation of copies, of pay television transmissions, non-premium subscription television, and free conditional access delivery transmissions; and | 12:35 |
| majoridiot | (2) With respect to any commercial audiovisual content delivered or transmitted in form of a video-on-demand or pay-per-view transmission, a covered entity shall not encode such content so as to prevent a covered product, without further authorization, from pausing such content up to 90 minutes from initial transmission by the covered entity (e.g., frame-by-frame, minute-by-minute, megabyte by megabyte). | 12:35 |
| superm1 | what is this taken from? | 12:36 |
| majoridiot | if it's not PPV, a pay service like HBO, ETC. or VOD, they can't legally restrict firewire transmissions. | 12:36 |
| majoridiot | title 47 of the code of federal regulations | 12:37 |
| majoridiot | 76.1904 | 12:37 |
| majoridiot | (i do this kinda shit for a living ;) ) | 12:37 |
| superm1 | okay, so tell me why does 5C exist then on everything across the country | 12:37 |
| superm1 | i mean i would think there would have been dozens of lawsuits regarding this already | 12:37 |
| majoridiot | it doesn't *everywhere* and on *everything* | 12:37 |
| majoridiot | i have nothing on mine that is 5C except pay channels | 12:38 |
| superm1 | okay *reword*. why does it exist on so many cable company's content | 12:38 |
| superm1 | because every cable company i've had now | 12:38 |
| majoridiot | and i have not checked to see if i paid for them if they would go over firewire | 12:38 |
| superm1 | i've had 3 different cable providers now | 12:38 |
| majoridiot | because 99% of the people have no clue what 5C is, and the ones that do don't know the law | 12:38 |
| majoridiot | the cable companies will do it until they are forced not to. | 12:39 |
| superm1 | okay then this begs the question - who are the right people to push regarding this. | 12:39 |
| majoridiot | senators, congressmen and the FCC | 12:39 |
| majoridiot | FCC first- it is their duty to enforce tat law | 12:40 |
| majoridiot | or explain why they are not | 12:40 |
| superm1 | did you have to in order to get your local cable company to get 5C off? | 12:40 |
| superm1 | or were you just fortunate enough to begin | 12:40 |
| majoridiot | which requires they also show a special determination and where it was published. | 12:40 |
| majoridiot | it was dodgy at first, so i called... | 12:41 |
| gardengnome | superm1: hey, you wanted to talk to me a few days ago? | 12:41 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, yes but i dont recall why | 12:41 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, probably nothing too important | 12:41 |
| majoridiot | inisisted on being passed up the line to supervisors and their supervisors... | 12:41 |
| gardengnome | superm1: heh, k | 12:41 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, i did the same thing. | 12:41 |
| majoridiot | made it clear i knew the law, explained what i was doing, explained it was *no different* that hooking up a pvr | 12:41 |
| majoridiot | and it went away within a week | 12:41 |
| superm1 | but i eventually hit a field engineer who gave me a straight answer that it wasnt their decision | 12:42 |
| superm1 | that it was content provider's decisions | 12:42 |
| superm1 | that they were in control of what content had 5C turned on | 12:42 |
| majoridiot | no... it is the FCCs decision. | 12:42 |
| superm1 | are you sure? | 12:42 |
| majoridiot | absolutely. | 12:42 |
| majoridiot | that is what the FCC does | 12:42 |
| majoridiot | they make and enforce | 12:42 |
| majoridiot | the cable companies MUST comply | 12:43 |
| superm1 | well if not for the fact that i will only be living in the same place for 4 months at a time for the next 8 months, I'd go and push my next two cable companies | 12:43 |
| majoridiot | the only reason they aren't is because their content providers pushed them into a corner and not enough people have complained to make a difference. | 12:43 |
| superm1 | do you think this is why comcast is pulling it around the country then? | 12:43 |
| superm1 | because enough people did complain? | 12:43 |
| majoridiot | yes and no | 12:43 |
| majoridiot | it's subterfuge | 12:44 |
| majoridiot | yes they are pulling 5C | 12:44 |
| majoridiot | but they are also changing a broadcast flag that breaks firewire | 12:44 |
| superm1 | wha? | 12:44 |
| majoridiot | which i *think* is what chad's prob is. | 12:44 |
| superm1 | so on the channels that should be working - his box's diag screen is indeed saying 5C=0? | 12:45 |
| majoridiot | the CCI flag | 12:45 |
| superm1 | but for some other reason, they arent working | 12:45 |
| majoridiot | dunno if that is wht his box is reporting or not | 12:45 |
| superm1 | CCI flag is part of the mpeg stream? | 12:46 |
| majoridiot | yes | 12:46 |
| majoridiot | CCI is the copy flag | 12:46 |
| majoridiot | so a lot of firmware is being updated to broadcast in the clear- no 5C | 12:47 |
| superm1 | i didnt realize that there was anything in addition to 5C. i thought this definition of "copy once, copy never, etc" was part of the 5C spec | 12:47 |
| majoridiot | but also with a CCI flax of 0x01 or 0x02, etc | 12:47 |
| majoridiot | which breaks fireiwre | 12:47 |
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| superm1 | http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-357896-p-46.html | 12:49 |
| superm1 | "if 5C is not enabled, than the CCI flag is meaninless" | 12:49 |
| superm1 | ? | 12:49 |
| majoridiot | well, here's a screenshot of a non-5C with a CCI of 0x02 that breaks fw: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=78816 | 12:50 |
| superm1 | can u dcc it | 12:51 |
| superm1 | i dont have an acct there | 12:51 |
| superm1 | where is 5c on there though? | 12:53 |
| majoridiot | diff menu | 12:53 |
| superm1 | oh | 12:53 |
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| tgm4883 | Hey whats the command to add a line to /etc/modules without having to open it and such. | 01:15 |
| tgm4883 | something like "echo "dvb_cx88" | 01:15 |
| majoridiot | sudo sh -c "echo "cx88_dvb" >> /etc/modules" | 01:16 |
| gardengnome | i'd guess it's "... | 01:16 |
| gardengnome | thanks majoridiot :) | 01:16 |
| majoridiot | ;) | 01:16 |
| tgm4883 | thanks | 01:18 |
| tgm4883 | i was looking all over for that | 01:18 |
| majoridiot | oddly enough, it's in the guide. | 01:18 |
| majoridiot | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_hardware_list | 01:18 |
| tgm4883 | Is that page new, i dont remember seeing it before | 01:19 |
| tgm4883 | I could be blind though | 01:20 |
| tgm4883 | wouldn't be the first time | 01:20 |
| majoridiot | it's been there for awhile | 01:20 |
| tgm4883 | im blind then | 01:20 |
| tgm4883 | sign me up for coke bottle glasses and bingo | 01:20 |
| tgm4883 | no offence to those who love pepsi | 01:21 |
| majoridiot | or cribbage | 01:21 |
| tgm4883 | or cribbage :) | 01:21 |
| majoridiot | superm1: well, i just got around to checking and the reason that half of my HD channels are corrupted is that the 0x02 CCI has been set. | 04:02 |
| superm1 | oh no? | 04:02 |
| === majoridiot will be calling insight cable tomorrow and demanding reparations | ||
| superm1 | when did these corrupted channels begin to come in corrupted? | 04:02 |
| majoridiot | recent past. hard to tell. | 04:03 |
| majoridiot | but certainly since start of the year | 04:03 |
| superm1 | so you really think you will be able to get them to set CCI to 0x00 by a simple call? | 04:03 |
| majoridiot | in this case THEY HAVE TO- they are all OTA HD channels | 04:03 |
| majoridiot | including a PBS LMMFAO | 04:03 |
| superm1 | oh snap. | 04:03 |
| majoridiot | yup. | 04:03 |
| majoridiot | my guess, is a tech got itchy when locking down the HDNet channels | 04:04 |
| majoridiot | or something at the head got messed. | 04:04 |
| superm1 | it'll be nice if thats all it was | 04:04 |
| majoridiot | in any event, they will be fixing this. ;) | 04:04 |
| superm1 | depending on how badly my roomate and i want to get digital cable this summer at our next place, i'll see if i need to get some tips from you... | 04:05 |
| majoridiot | what since would it make for them to select 4 or 5 ota HD channels to lock down with 0x02 and leave everything else wide open? | 04:05 |
| majoridiot | (sense) | 04:05 |
| superm1 | otherwise my Air2PC HD5000 will handle any non encrypted QAM channels at least for me (which is most of what i watch anyhow) | 04:05 |
| majoridiot | nice | 04:05 |
| superm1 | well i hope they dont lock down more by your call though | 04:06 |
| superm1 | as in oh we meant to lock it all | 04:06 |
| superm1 | and you just reminded us | 04:06 |
| majoridiot | non-encrypted as in non-5C or is it ok with 0x02 CCI? | 04:06 |
| superm1 | on encrypted as in i dont need a digital cable box for them | 04:06 |
| majoridiot | ah | 04:07 |
| superm1 | typically its just the OTA channels being rebroadcasted and other people who use on demand channels | 04:07 |
| majoridiot | well, the way i look at it... insight is in the process of merging with comcast (ew)... and if they want that merger to go through smoothly, then they must pass franchising, etc. | 04:08 |
| majoridiot | the city holds the local franchise | 04:09 |
| majoridiot | i'm not planning for war, tho. insight has been very good to deal with. | 04:09 |
| majoridiot | i think i will call and report a problem, get a tech here, explain and have him call the right guy. | 04:10 |
| majoridiot | that seemed the best route when the phone geeks couldn't suss out what i meant by a "ground-loop" prob i was fighting on my broadband connection. | 04:11 |
| superm1 | how do you get a tech though? | 04:19 |
| superm1 | rather than a regularcustomer service rep | 04:19 |
| majoridiot | just report a problem they can't handle. | 04:19 |
| superm1 | yea thats the same thing i had to do to climb the chain of support | 04:19 |
| superm1 | still got me nowhere though :) | 04:19 |
| superm1 | the only time i made real progress was my going in in person | 04:20 |
| majoridiot | actually, i don't feel like being home between non and six... | 04:21 |
| majoridiot | i'll start by asking for a supervisor | 04:21 |
| superm1 | non and six? | 04:21 |
| majoridiot | that usually gets their attention | 04:21 |
| majoridiot | noon | 04:21 |
| superm1 | oh | 04:21 |
| superm1 | noon and six - thats when you have to normally call? | 04:21 |
| majoridiot | i meant for a tech to come | 04:22 |
| superm1 | oh | 04:22 |
| majoridiot | they give you that "block" of sit around and wait on us time. | 04:22 |
| superm1 | makes more sense | 04:22 |
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| superm1 | yea | 04:22 |
| majoridiot | i'll start it as a "problem" | 04:23 |
| majoridiot | i.e. why is it that...? | 04:23 |
| majoridiot | and see what they say. | 04:23 |
| superm1 | what bugs me more than anything - the first thing that they tend to make you do is switch out the box | 04:23 |
| majoridiot | (it may escalate into a complaint from there) LOL | 04:23 |
| majoridiot | yeah... that's usually resolution step one. | 04:24 |
| majoridiot | like calling dsl repair and the first thing they make you do is recycle the power to the modem and router, even though you have repeatedly. | 04:24 |
| superm1 | yes exactly | 04:25 |
| superm1 | when i eventually had a supervisor's email, i captured the diag screen on my ivtv card | 04:25 |
| superm1 | showing what a 5c channel loooked like | 04:25 |
| superm1 | and he still made me switch the box first | 04:25 |
| superm1 | such stupid shit | 04:26 |
| majoridiot | protocol | 04:26 |
| majoridiot | cya | 04:26 |
| superm1 | leavin? | 04:26 |
| majoridiot | sorry... no. | 04:26 |
| majoridiot | Cover Your Ass | 04:26 |
| superm1 | ah | 04:26 |
| superm1 | yes | 04:26 |
| majoridiot | so at the next performance review, he can show he played by the rules | 04:26 |
| majoridiot | even when he didn't have to | 04:27 |
| majoridiot | ok... brings up a good question... | 04:27 |
| majoridiot | on a 5C channel... | 04:27 |
| majoridiot | if you take the output from the stb into a 150, does it cap ok or does macrovision get it? | 04:28 |
| superm1 | captures fine | 04:29 |
| majoridiot | i thought it would | 04:29 |
| majoridiot | but have learned not to assume | 04:29 |
| superm1 | never had macrovision troubles | 04:29 |
| majoridiot | some has happened to firewire in feisty | 04:29 |
| majoridiot | something | 04:29 |
| majoridiot | takes longer to establish a good connection and lags occasionally... | 04:30 |
| superm1 | thats odd? | 04:30 |
| majoridiot | was waiting to dig into it... | 04:31 |
| majoridiot | i notived that libiec61883-dev didn't come with, as it did with edgy | 04:31 |
| majoridiot | thought maybe there would be an update | 04:31 |
| superm1 | didnt come with? | 04:32 |
| superm1 | you mean no feisty version | 04:32 |
| majoridiot | correct | 04:32 |
| majoridiot | it was packaged with feisty | 04:32 |
| superm1 | well no new upstream version would mean no new version for feisty | 04:32 |
| majoridiot | er | 04:32 |
| majoridiot | edgy | 04:32 |
| superm1 | should have told me sooner though if there was one | 04:32 |
| superm1 | coulda packaged it | 04:33 |
| majoridiot | didn't realize it until yesterday | 04:33 |
| superm1 | ah | 04:33 |
| majoridiot | was having a priming problem and couldn't do a "plugreport" | 04:33 |
| majoridiot | (note: priming problems will always occur when the STB is powered off) | 04:34 |
| superm1 | well if there is a new upstream version, i can help you package it | 04:34 |
| superm1 | in the next coming weeks | 04:35 |
| majoridiot | great. ty. | 04:35 |
| superm1 | can be your first package and all :) | 04:35 |
| superm1 | are you going to run for ubuntu membership later this year too? | 04:35 |
| superm1 | and try to get an @ubuntu.com address and all | 04:35 |
| majoridiot | never considered it, honestly | 04:36 |
| majoridiot | a good idea | 04:36 |
| superm1 | at least look into it. you've been putting in lots of work here | 04:39 |
| superm1 | it is great to get recognized for it | 04:39 |
| superm1 | i'm not sure if i will be able to be a sponsor, but if so i'd be glad to | 04:40 |
| majoridiot | appreciated | 04:40 |
| majoridiot | is there a regular cycle for applications or just whenever? | 04:40 |
| superm1 | i dont remember off hand how it worked | 04:42 |
| superm1 | i think its every community council meeting | 04:42 |
| superm1 | so there is a regular cycle to it | 04:42 |
| superm1 | there is a page on wiki.ubuntu.com about it | 04:42 |
| superm1 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewDevelopersAndMaintainers | 04:49 |
| superm1 | that talks a bit about it | 04:49 |
| majoridiot | ah... ty. got distracted. | 04:49 |
| majoridiot | http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17505/Ubuntu-Feisty-Fawn-Desktop-Linux-Matured/ | 04:49 |
| majoridiot | just one of many... | 04:49 |
| superm1 | actually this better describes the process | 04:51 |
| superm1 | http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember | 04:51 |
| majoridiot | is all the mythbuntu stuff available for download somewhere? | 04:59 |
| superm1 | yes bzr branch | 04:59 |
| majoridiot | damn. meant to look at bazaar today. | 05:00 |
| superm1 | apt-get install bzr | 05:00 |
| superm1 | :) | 05:00 |
| majoridiot | well there just a *little* more to it than that | 05:00 |
| majoridiot | unless it has some KILLER AI | 05:00 |
| superm1 | well man bzr for the rest | 05:01 |
| superm1 | teaches how to checkout | 05:01 |
| majoridiot | hehe yeah | 05:01 |
| superm1 | here is the address you would check out from: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythtv/ubuntu | 05:02 |
| majoridiot | excellent... i'm bookmarking it. | 05:03 |
| superm1 | well its not a browsable address afaik | 05:05 |
| majoridiot | no | 05:05 |
| superm1 | its just the argument you use for checking out the first time | 05:05 |
| superm1 | and for pushing | 05:05 |
| majoridiot | but i know where i put it :) | 05:05 |
| majoridiot | i'll see if i can't get at it tomorrow | 05:06 |
| superm1 | well no rush - i wont be able to do much with it myself up until finals now | 05:06 |
| superm1 | so another couple of weeks | 05:06 |
| superm1 | until i can do any real contributions | 05:06 |
| majoridiot | it will take me another couple of weeks to come up to speed on the basics ;) | 05:06 |
| superm1 | :) | 05:07 |
| majoridiot | give me a chance to poke around and see if i can figure out how things kinda work | 05:07 |
| superm1 | you can give the live disk build script a run too | 05:08 |
| superm1 | i havent ran it for a while | 05:08 |
| majoridiot | great | 05:09 |
| superm1 | actually there are a few new changes that will be required to it anyhow | 05:10 |
| superm1 | due to the new packages | 05:10 |
| superm1 | with the wrapper scripts and such | 05:11 |
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| superm1 | majoridiot, just ran another build. only took about 20 minutes for me to build an ISO | 05:36 |
| superm1 | i'll see how things look now with the fresh packages | 05:36 |
| superm1 | 375 megs for the whole ISO with all plugins and such | 05:37 |
| majoridiot | that's not bad | 05:37 |
| === majoridiot wonders how fast it will build on this box | ||
| superm1 | and with packages avail on the disk to install mythbackend | 05:37 |
| superm1 | and mythweb | 05:37 |
| majoridiot | that's pretty compact | 05:38 |
| majoridiot | :) | 05:38 |
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| superm1 | well that whole build process was also using a mirror that should be on internet2, so i had very fast downloads | 05:39 |
| superm1 | i'd expect yours to be roughly twice that | 05:39 |
| majoridiot | i'm headed out. | 05:45 |
| majoridiot | talk to you tomorrow | 05:45 |
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| Alam_Debian | hello? | 07:27 |
| Alam_Debian | since Feb 24, my ubuntu Edgy Mythtv server stopped recording shows, I think It was due to an update of mythtv packages, can anyone help me reset my MythTV database? | 07:29 |
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| superm1 | Daviey, ! | 06:05 |
| superm1 | hey | 06:05 |
| Daviey | hey | 06:05 |
| Daviey | hows things? | 06:05 |
| superm1 | well i'm looking forward to wrapping up school now, thats for sure :) | 06:05 |
| superm1 | 3 weeks left to the end of finals | 06:06 |
| gardengnome | three days. | 06:06 |
| gardengnome | here. | 06:06 |
| gardengnome | :) | 06:06 |
| Daviey | i bet you are! | 06:06 |
| superm1 | hehe | 06:06 |
| Daviey | 3 weeks will go so quickley | 06:06 |
| Daviey | are you doing your finals now? | 06:06 |
| superm1 | they are during that third week | 06:06 |
| superm1 | final projects these two weeks | 06:06 |
| Daviey | :( | 06:07 |
| superm1 | i'm glad that all of those changes that i put together got done in time for universe freeze last week too | 06:07 |
| superm1 | you heard about them correct? | 06:07 |
| Daviey | no! | 06:07 |
| superm1 | whew. lots of stuff got in | 06:07 |
| Daviey | nothing new tho? | 06:08 |
| Daviey | just fixes? | 06:08 |
| superm1 | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/multiverse/m/mythtv/mythtv_0.20-svn20070122-0.0ubuntu5/changelog | 06:08 |
| superm1 | better yet | 06:08 |
| superm1 | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/multiverse/m/mythtv/mythtv_0.20-svn20070122-0.0ubuntu6/changelog | 06:08 |
| superm1 | see those last two sets of changes | 06:08 |
| Daviey | woo LP: #96739 | 06:09 |
| Daviey | nice 1 | 06:09 |
| superm1 | hopefully all the mysql mess is over due to these last two sets of fixes | 06:09 |
| superm1 | and majoridiot finished up all the feisty pages | 06:10 |
| superm1 | so those are live now on h.u.c | 06:11 |
| superm1 | to reflect all of these changes | 06:11 |
| superm1 | Daviey, did you ever end up contacting that guy? | 06:12 |
| Daviey | what guy? | 06:13 |
| superm1 | in indiana | 06:13 |
| superm1 | the guy that took mythbuntu.org? | 06:13 |
| Daviey | no!! grr | 06:13 |
| Daviey | i knew there was something | 06:14 |
| superm1 | haha | 06:14 |
| superm1 | well our server *still* isnt up, so its alright | 06:15 |
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| [g2] | Have you guys heard about LinuxMCE at all ? | 11:39 |
| majoridiot | not a lot, no. | 11:40 |
| majoridiot | something specific you need? | 11:40 |
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| superm1 | majoridiot, hey | 12:08 |
| superm1 | just sent you mail | 12:08 |
| superm1 | i should learn to sign into IRC *before* responding to your emails | 12:08 |
| superm1 | haha | 12:08 |
| majoridiot | haha | 12:08 |
| [g2] | majoridiot, are you familiar with LinuxMCE at all ? | 12:09 |
| majoridiot | g2: not a lot. what do you need? | 12:09 |
| superm1 | [g2] , it uses components from several open source projects, afaik mr home, xine, mythtv | 12:10 |
| superm1 | [g2] , its basically Pluto Home (www.plutohome.com) repackaged for debian | 12:11 |
| superm1 | for most people its overkill, but a really neat idea | 12:11 |
| [g2] | hmmmm where to begin .... | 12:12 |
| superm1 | [g2] , are you just looking to setup a PVR? | 12:12 |
| superm1 | or you do want to go all this home automation stuff | 12:12 |
| [g2] | I've got my own embedded linux company | 12:12 |
| superm1 | right | 12:13 |
| [g2] | so I've been doing XScale/ARM embedded linux for the last several years | 12:13 |
| superm1 | right | 12:13 |
| [g2] | Ubuntu has been the basis for my development system as I had OpenEmbedded layered on top of it | 12:14 |
| [g2] | The last 6 months or so I've been playing with pvr/media streaming and running the latest feisty stuff for the last few months | 12:14 |
| [g2] | I tried the latest myth-install and had the same issues a s guy in here had | 12:15 |
| superm1 | you had issues? | 12:15 |
| superm1 | what sort | 12:15 |
| [g2] | superm1, yes I did | 12:15 |
| superm1 | and with the latest packages? | 12:15 |
| [g2] | I'd guess about 3-4 weeks ago | 12:15 |
| superm1 | lots has changed in the last 5 days :) | 12:16 |
| [g2] | things have been a little blur has I've have an appletv that's hacked | 12:16 |
| majoridiot | lots has changed :) | 12:16 |
| superm1 | [g2] , you put ubuntu on the appletv? | 12:16 |
| [g2] | my plan it to get a (ubuntu based) myth-tv front-end on the appletv | 12:16 |
| superm1 | oh sweet | 12:16 |
| [g2] | ppl are running gentoo right now | 12:16 |
| majoridiot | should be doable. | 12:17 |
| [g2] | there's an issue with the efi loader | 12:17 |
| [g2] | so a bastard mach-0 wrapper needs to be created to boot an embedded linux kernel | 12:17 |
| superm1 | so as of now do you have it booting ubuntu yet? | 12:17 |
| [g2] | superm1, not yet | 12:18 |
| superm1 | [g2] , isnt there a native mac build of mythtv though? | 12:18 |
| superm1 | shouldnt that run right out of the box? | 12:18 |
| [g2] | superm1, the appletv runs a modifiied Leparod 10.4.7 | 12:18 |
| [g2] | and while I've played with the Apple stuff, I'm really a hardcore Linux guy | 12:19 |
| superm1 | yea i hear ya there | 12:19 |
| [g2] | there are quite a lot (a dozen or two) really talented Mac hackers really tearing up the Mac side | 12:20 |
| superm1 | well [g2] what issues were you running across on our packages a few weeks ago | 12:20 |
| [g2] | but really all those most are just one apple flash away from naught | 12:20 |
| superm1 | i can let you know if those problems have absolved | 12:20 |
| [g2] | superm1 somebody was walking a guy through a lot (I think all) the problems I was having | 12:21 |
| [g2] | in here | 12:21 |
| [g2] | I saw it in the logs | 12:21 |
| superm1 | do you know what day? | 12:21 |
| superm1 | oh actually i think they have been purged from last month already | 12:21 |
| [g2] | superm1, is ubuntulog purging files on my box ? :) | 12:22 |
| superm1 | hehe | 12:22 |
| superm1 | good point | 12:22 |
| superm1 | well particularly were they mysql related problems? | 12:22 |
| superm1 | with passwords | 12:22 |
| superm1 | and permissions and such | 12:22 |
| [g2] | yeah | 12:23 |
| superm1 | okay. thats exactly what my patches this last week took care of | 12:23 |
| superm1 | as long as you clean up the mess sputtered around from the old ones (apt-get remove --purge mythtv-common mysql-server, rm ~/.mythtv rm /etc/mythtv and delete mythconverg database) you should be fine | 12:23 |
| [g2] | superm1, Ok I'll be happy to try a re-install and test and report any issue | 12:25 |
| [g2] | issues | 12:25 |
| superm1 | very good :) | 12:25 |
| [g2] | superm1, are you around for the next couple hours ? | 12:27 |
| superm1 | actually only for about 20 min more | 12:27 |
| superm1 | i've got work this evening | 12:27 |
| superm1 | i'll check back in later tonite though | 12:27 |
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| superm1 | around 10 or 11ish | 12:27 |
| superm1 | central | 12:27 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, is more than capable of helping though :) | 12:27 |
| superm1 | and will point you in the direction of feisty guides that he authored and such too... | 12:28 |
| [g2] | so super... I'm very impressed with many of the ubuntu devs and ubuntu in general | 12:28 |
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