[12:23] whats going on with ubotu - its telling me my "edit request" has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops [12:23] I never made any request === gnomefreak just got here [12:32] ikonia, that's the same 'ubotu is...' thing as before :) [12:33] ahh right [12:33] I'm hitting ubotu's button [12:33] oops [12:37] stupid asses :( [12:37] not you 2 === gnomefreak wonders what is gonna happen on next kernel update now that people are giving bad advice :( [12:42] gnomefreak: bad advice? [12:42] compiling nvidia drivers from nvidia [12:43] especially 8*** on feisty.... why? :O [12:43] well thats just gonna cause complaints now [12:44] the 3 different nvidia-glx's cover all cards... === gnomefreak tired of cleaning up after stupid ass unsupported crap for users that think they are helping === kitche [n=dragon@pool-129-44-139-201.buff.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [12:45] like we dont have enough [12:46] seems like ubotu needs a restart or something [12:46] Seveas: ubotu down? [12:46] !ubotu [12:46] hmm [12:46] @t [12:46] gnomefreak: did you need something these past few days? [12:46] sems to be stuck on something [12:47] nalioth: yes but i dont remember now [12:47] they just appeared in +1 [12:47] i think it was handled === ratshell [n=ratshell@74-128-163-120.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops [12:47] Hello all [12:47] ubotu starting [12:47] hello [12:47] ah little late it seemed [12:47] ETA 5 minutes [12:47] Seveas <3 [12:47] gnomefreak could I ask what your problem is? [12:47] ratshell: I haven't notice any problem from him [12:48] ratshell: he's talking about ubotu and it's lag [12:48] ratshell: giving unsupported/bad advice is not good in an official support channel. calling me names and cursing at me doesnt help [12:48] in another room i gave some advice that had worked for me. As a suggestion. Then he gets mad at me revokes my voice then starts making fun of me. !coc > ratshell [12:48] !rules | ratshell. [12:48] ratshell, basically he's trying to keep asses out of the channels and you're acting like on. So please stop diubg that [12:48] aryour mute has about 5 minutes left on it. please read the links you were given [12:49] ratshell, 'works for me' doesn't mean it's good advise [12:49] ratshell: your* === gnomefreak brb phone [12:49] Well I put is as a suggestion [12:49] that was all [12:49] I said it worked for me and suggested it to that person to look at it. [12:49] and gnomefreak told you not to give such bad advice [12:49] ratshell: and gnomefreak said it's not good one, where's the problem? [12:49] It was there decision to follow it [12:49] ratshell: i warned you nicely than you went and called me and ass and told me to shut the hell up [12:49] that is when i muted you [12:50] I asked why you where behaving like one. that is all [12:50] Because you where [12:50] ratshell: he wasn't [12:50] Yes he was. [12:50] ratshell: ummmm this is not helping you. [12:50] but i will be glad to step back and let someone else explain it to you [12:50] That is a support channel. I was giving support on the problem. I was telling them of something that I had found to work. So I suggested it. [12:50] gnomefreak: give him a moment, I like to ask something [12:50] ratshell, if you continue like this I don't think anybody feels like helping you [12:50] Okay one question then. [12:50] gnomefreak, at least 2 other people already did [12:51] Seveas: ty [12:51] ratshell: what exactly in gnomefreak's behaviour was wrong? [12:51] This isn't worth arguing here. I can tell that. So I am going back to the support channel. === ratshell [n=ratshell@74-128-163-120.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] [12:51] shame :( [12:51] I wanted to know his point of view [12:52] ...so he can see it himself [12:52] oh well, can't win a war [12:52] ubotu is still on his way back [12:52] he's asking in #ubuntu right now [12:53] kitche: who asking what? [12:53] Tm_T: ratshell about if you give advice and that stuff [12:53] aah =) === ratshell [n=ratshell@74-128-163-120.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-ops [12:53] )( [12:54] I thought you would be back ratshell [12:54] seems you didn't get the hint [12:54] Are you guys in a bad mood or something today. This is a support room. Helping others. If I give someone a suggestion it is there choice to follow it or not. So let the person make up there own mine. AND STOP BLOCKING ME FOR NO REASON please. [12:54] ratshell, and these are official ubuntu support channels. We don't want bad advice being given. [12:54] you are blocked for being offtopic, obnoxious behaviour and persisting in the idea that bad support is ok [12:54] ratshell: hmm, how about I suggesting you to do rm -rf / [12:55] Nobody has been anything but polite to you ratshell [12:55] ratshell: see if that helps you? [12:55] ratshell: giving "known bad" suggestions and "giving the user the choice" is not good support. some users have NOT A CLUE what is "good" or "bad" advice to choose [12:55] nalioth: see my example ;) [12:55] oh, forgot sudo :O [12:55] anyways sicne ubotu is working again I m going back to #ubuntu === kitche [n=dragon@pool-129-44-139-201.buff.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-ops [] [12:55] :) [12:56] heh [12:56] oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy! [12:56] Okay so your saying for example. YOu have a problem. I have found a solution to it that many people have used. I cannot give it out because IT IS NOT A GOOD ADVICE? === Tm_T is so excited [12:56] !worksforme [12:56] Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. [12:56] ratshell: well, we have right to say it's bad, and we will use this right [12:56] ratshell: it can still be very bad advice, of course. [12:57] ratshell: it's even our duty to do so [12:57] okay fine I will follow your rules. Now will you please take me off mute on both ubuntu rooms. [12:57] ratshell, we've now explained this to you several times [12:57] now quit it [12:57] ratshell, There is "official documentation" and Ubuntu supported packages. We don't support nvidia.com software. [12:57] (for a reason) [12:57] ty was afk [12:57] Can you take me off mute in those to rooms please? [12:58] gnomefreak take me off mute in ubuntu+1 please [12:59] it was taken off i believe [12:59] ratshell, please stop repeating [12:59] ratshell: already done ages ago [12:59] you will be taken off mute when we think it's a good idea [12:59] Tm_T, Seveas remuted [12:59] PriceChild: ooh =) [12:59] Seveas: did you remute him or is that someone else? [12:59] I try talking in ubuntu+1 #ubuntu+1 :Cannot send to channel [12:59] gnomefreak, Tm_T: i remuted after his annoying behaviour in #ubuntu [12:59] Seveas: roger [12:59] ah ok [01:00] I need to ask a question in ubuntu+1 please unmute me [01:00] ratshell, you will be taken off mute when we think it's a good idea [01:00] now is not that time [01:00] fine I will ask it in here then. [01:00] ratshell, This is not a support channel, please read the /topic [01:00] Does anyone in here use Teamspeak-Client in Ubuntu Feisty? [01:01] ratshell: being annoying is not going to help you, so please stop now. [01:01] Well I am needing help in the support room and you won't take me off mute. So this is the only room I can get support in [01:01] ratshell: no. It doesn't make this the right place. [01:02] Now the person I was trying to help earlier is back in there and I can't say anything cause I am mute. [01:02] ratshell, and if you continu about that, you'll be muted in here as well [01:02] that's something you'll both have to deal with unfortunately === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v nalioth] by ChanServ [01:13] ratshell has been unmuted [01:16] hes not in +1 i dont think [01:16] he is [01:16] his nick isnt autocompleting [01:16] he's not there [01:16] he quit [01:16] he left #ubuntu too [01:16] and mute wouldn't stop people entering either, by the way [01:17] chanserv.py can (un)ban even after someone quit :) [01:17] Show off :) [01:17] ratshell is now banned === ratshell [n=ratshell@74-128-163-120.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops [01:17] Hey [01:17] came back, recommended automatix [01:17] why did you kick [01:17] i saw [01:17] me [01:18] so banned for a long time, this is just trolling [01:18] Yes Automatix is good. That is not bad advice. === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o Seveas] by ChanServ === ratshell [n=ratshell@74-128-163-120.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+b *!*@74-128-163-120.dhcp.insightbb.com] by Seveas === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o Seveas] by ChanServ [01:18] trolls will always show their true nature [01:19] indeed [01:19] how the hell does "please dont give bad advice" turn into something like this? dont people learn? [01:19] gnomefreak, trolls never learn === gnomefreak wont forget this one for a while [01:20] Seveas: any news wrt IRC council status? [01:20] apokryphos, /topic [01:20] :) [01:20] still have to write the spec [01:20] oh yeah, uds === Seveas --> bed [01:21] see you all tomorrow :) [01:21] night [01:21] 'night [01:28] Check magic_ninja in +1 [01:30] arwen/anon32 has arrived also.... [01:31] what about him? [01:31] .win 3 [01:32] magic_ninja instantly suggested cab use nvidia.com's runs [01:32] oh not again :( [01:33] anon32 was unbanned? [01:34] banned in #ubuntu... [01:35] Never acted up in +1 though afaik [01:35] is he a moron :( [01:35] he pmed me trying to give me a link to fix my nvidia issues :( === Vorian [n=g@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops [01:38] PriceChild: arwen is anon32 keep eye on him at times [01:39] Yup :) [01:39] how do you set client to see joins and partts? [01:39] to hilight them? or to see them? :s [01:39] what client are you on? :O [01:39] see them [01:39] shes on chatzilla [01:39] but should be a freenode setting no? [01:40] it will be a client settings [01:40] *setting [01:40] ok let me see if i can get it working to teach her ty === Vorian [n=heHATEme@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops [01:56] gnomefreak: ? [01:56] that was me [01:56] my client froze [01:56] I see [01:57] ah, now I notice =) [01:57] :) [01:57] i was helping buttons set joina nd parts in chatzilla === Tm_T should read hostnames/cloaks [02:07] now wtf [02:08] now hes taking people from support channels and telling them to join his channel for help (bad advice help i image [02:08] gnomefreak, who? [02:08] rat... [02:08] in #kubuntu [02:09] same guy? [02:09] ed_ [02:09] im not sure if thats bad or not but im sure if it messes somehting up we are gonna end up with it [02:09] whoops wrong channel [02:09] PriceChild: yep same guy [02:10] I can't see him [02:11] ah wai tthere he is :) [02:11] I think we should do something about that channel... [02:11] nalioth: can i get you to cloak a freind of mine as unaff... [02:12] PriceChild: i think we should do something about him not the channel [02:12] hehe :) [02:12] the guy he invited didn't follow btw [02:12] i know [02:12] but still the poor sap that does [02:13] can we add /topic dont follow anyone to another channelf or help :( [02:13] gnomefreak: which friend? [02:13] buttons [02:13] shes a freind outside of irc [02:13] im having her join here when she gets chatzilla back up [02:14] PriceChild: im gonna keep eye on him as long as im here [02:16] shes coming [02:16] gnomefreak: you can help buttons with the set up [02:17] yep === Buttons [n=chatzill@adsl-67-38-241-106.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [02:17] hi Buttons :) [02:17] hi [02:17] nalioth: just let me know what she needs to do and ill have here do it [02:23] btw ratshell might get kicked from #kubuntu soon ;) [02:23] he's mine! [02:23] ty [02:23] one wrong move more... ;) [02:24] 03:07 < ratshell> pnubttr we can help you with that if you need, but where in the channel #ubuntuhelp. So come there if you want to. === Buttons is now known as buttonsmssing [02:24] funny guy [02:24] 0_o === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops [02:25] thats what i was telling PriceChild :) [02:25] he was banned in #ubuntu & +1 [02:25] incase anyone's missed that [02:25] we know it very well ;) [02:26] nalioth: ok shes set up i think [02:28] haha ratshell banned nalioth in his channel [02:29] uh oh [02:29] nalioth, hehe showoff :) [02:29] PriceChild: what happens in other channels should stay in other channels [02:29] this is not a spectator sport [02:29] Ok sorry. === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Burgundavia] by ChanServ === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Bye] === buttonsmssing is now known as happy === happy is now known as buttons [02:34] sorry for the nick changes :) [02:34] no you're not, you filthy spammer! [02:34] hehe [02:35] :) [02:38] HES MINE! [02:38] gnomefreak: ... [02:38] ;p [02:38] I hate you [02:39] sorry ill unban him if you want [02:39] nah [02:39] I wanted to kick [02:39] :( [02:40] i is here [02:40] hi buttons :) === buttons is now known as happy [02:40] sorry wasnt looking in here i saw the caps [02:40] happy: /nick buttons === happy is now known as buttons [02:41] hi tm [02:41] gnomefreak: you knew I was waiting him [02:41] i told pri was keeping my eye on him :( [02:41] pricechild even [02:43] hmh [02:43] maybe I go kick people without proper realnames instead -> [02:44] you can ban him if you like it was just habit [02:44] iw ill be glad to unban him [02:44] buttons: ? [02:44] am i here? [02:44] oh good [02:44] lol [02:44] i know i know === gnomefreak got yelled at for spamming [02:45] ;) [02:45] i saw that [02:47] gnomefreak: but banning doesn't give the good feeling like kick do :( [02:47] yeah i know but i was always told dont use kick unless making a point ;) [02:47] im tired of making a point with him [02:48] oh suck [02:48] noone is violating realname rule there :( [02:48] lol [02:48] kick me if you like :) [02:48] nah [02:49] c'mere babe ill kick ya [02:49] you know, in one channel we require verified realname [02:49] never heard of that [02:50] well, we like to keep some things strict [02:50] can we lable rat... as a damn troll and keep him banned d abit [02:50] yes [02:51] damn it must be getting late [02:51] i cant read that :( [02:51] 0351 [02:51] 2051 [02:51] and wake up 0620 [02:52] screw it [02:52] nalioth: can we k-line the kid please he is joining channel after channel [02:53] and complaining now [02:53] which kid? [02:53] ratshell [02:53] which channel? [02:53] #xubuntu [02:53] he left there [02:54] start at a little bit up and he starts with the come here for help. these admins bleh bleh === gnomefreak brb smoke [02:57] ty na [02:58] thank you nalioth [02:58] buttons: you're welcome === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tonyyarusso] by ChanServ [03:00] wtf DCC aborted receiving file epsxe from _3oo3 [03:00] he sent dcc to channel ive never seen it with a file as an exploit [03:00] good [03:00] gnomefreak: I've seen that nick before.. [03:01] he sent dcc to xubuntu [03:01] yes he did [03:01] well kickban [03:01] a while ago and Sevea^s script got him [03:01] hello SportChick ;) [03:01] obviously an idiot exploiter [03:01] hiya gnomefreak === zenwhen_ [n=zenwhen@74-131-129-50.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops [03:02] and hi to all === Tm_T tries to get some sleep [03:03] me too night everyone [03:03] nite everyone === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Madpilot] by ChanServ === kitche [n=dragon@sourcemage/guru/kitche] has joined #ubuntu-ops [04:02] nalioth: are you here? [04:03] kitche: yes [04:04] 21:59 Trubadurix [n=lol@85.218.156.120] requested CTCP PING from kitche: 1176688809 [04:04] yes, and? [04:04] nevermind then [04:05] just a standard ctcp ping [04:05] want me to demonstrate what is BAD? [04:05] nah I know what's bad === kitche [n=dragon@sourcemage/guru/kitche] has left #ubuntu-ops [] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === effie_jayx [n=l3ap@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops [04:44] Burgundavia: uh, say what? [04:44] @ devel [04:44] no idea [04:52] Morning to all [05:19] What has the mad Dutchman done to his bot? We're lartless, and suffering... [05:25] I'm not mad [05:25] nor dutchman [05:25] nah, Seveas [05:25] but I might be bot [05:25] Burgundavia: Seveas? some flower? [05:27] No, he's a mad Dutchman. [05:27] hm, okiedokie [05:36] Seveas: is definetly a mad dutchman === QMario [n=QMario@cpe-24-27-101-101.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #Ubuntu-ops === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Seveas] by ChanServ [07:39] is that "brb" the sound when you try not to vomit? [07:40] /me hands Tm_T http://www.acronymfinder.com [07:40] though I suspect you knew that acronym already [07:42] Tm_T, sort of :) === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-ops [07:42] it's snowing. :/ [07:43] mneptok, ?! [07:43] exaaaactly [07:43] it's 28C here :) [07:43] i loathe you. [07:43] *hug* [07:43] :) [07:43] in .nl ? [07:43] hey, I'm 39C's here! [07:43] or was, yesterday [07:44] Myrtti: I can guess what it is, but you didn't seem to get this "joke" [07:44] mneptok, yeah [07:44] totally insane [07:44] I blame your fever ;( [07:44] it will prolly be 25C here next week. -13C the next. [07:44] "kuuminta hottia" [07:45] yay, northeast nort america [07:45] mneptok: sounds like finland [07:45] mneptok: in summer ;) [07:45] yeah, but without the sisu [07:45] Myrtti: vastaheittona "aisais peipi" vaimitessemeni [07:45] just Quebecois existential malaise [07:45] mneptok: ;) [07:46] actually, the new computer i set up for my father this weekend he named "sisu" [07:46] probably why that word was in my head [07:51] it's mneptok! [07:51] EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK! [07:52] indeed! [07:52] i just wasted a LOT of vowels. [07:52] somewhere, some little Serbian boy was just named Zdnrstnr [07:53] haha [07:54] mneptok: well, few "e" there won't make it any better really [07:55] Tm_T: you've given up hope? [07:55] oh, of course you have, you vowel-happy Finn :) [07:56] mneptok: well look welsh location names, vowels there isn't make them any simpler === Tm_T remember his attempts to learn cymraeg [07:58] Tm_T: y is an extremely strong vowel in Welsh [07:58] as is w [07:59] so, Crwmmydd isn't all *that* scary ;) [07:59] yes, but when there's over twenty letters and only 3 or 4 vowels... and no it's not scary, interesting :) [08:00] yeah, the Welsh took the "big gun" approach to vowels [08:01] aaah! now I get it, "brb" is sound of dying when your mouth is filled with blood! [08:01] that'll explain === phos-phoros [n=donovan@unaffiliated/phos-phoros] has joined #ubuntu-ops [08:02] burbling retched blood === Tm_T goes find dictionary [08:03] "vomitted" [08:03] adjectival [08:03] (not perfect verbal) [08:03] ok, thanks :) [08:04] "retch" has more the dry sense. or at least not emptying the stomach. [08:05] (charming turn of conversation) [08:05] yup [08:05] *ahem* [08:05] mneptok: nah, good subject IMO [08:05] certainly apropos to Freenode at times [08:05] learning new words is always good (as long as you can use those words in civilised conversations [08:05] ) [08:07] well, we have a very long way with my Finnish [08:07] mneptok: ei se mitn ;) [08:08] and before i started that in any real way i'd see what percentage of my Finnish relatives speak Swedish and take the easy route :P === stylus [i=stylus@tapthru/operator/stylus] has joined #ubuntu-ops [08:11] mneptok: well, what I know about finnish people and swedish skills... forget it =) [08:13] but my grandmother was Margit Nyman. look at the name. ;) [08:14] most of the family does still. the younger generation are more Finnish. [08:14] my cousins my age speak Swedish. but their kids? no idea. 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