[12:00] <sorcerer> that ikinda figured out lol i like it more customizing and what not .. but see i have a mx700 logitec mouse and pther buttons dont work i hate it
[12:00] <chowmeined> sorcerer: hold on ill keep looking
[12:01] <jpsamara> Feisty will be delayed for a week a think... just because the RC images had some bugs preventing using feisty on some motherboards
[12:01] <chowmeined> sorcerer: linux does support a ton of hardware
[12:01] <foxiness> how can i know say if ubuntu 6.10 come with xchat installed by default or not ?"it will help me to help other ,exp write doc,answers"
[12:01] <sorcerer> tjcarter: umm a somy dcs-t1 digital camera
[12:01] <DPic> Which motherboards?
[12:01] <chowmeined> sorcerer: linux runs on everything from handhelds to toasters to mainframes and supercomputers
[12:01] <LordLimecat> chowmeined: it still doesnt want to compile for athalon, tho, i see lines like this:   LDS     arch/i386/kernel/vmlinux.lds
[12:01] <chowmeined> sorcerer: windows cant even come close in that area
[12:01] <tjcarter> Sony is likely to be supported.
[12:01] <tjcarter> Let me google.
[12:01] <andrew> no matter what i do
[12:01] <Ginja_Ninja> does anybody know how i could assign a udio device to an xsession ?
[12:01] <andrew> it doesn't do anything..
[12:02] <sorcerer> tjcarter: aight mate
[12:02] <andrew> i'm just trying to add a damn font to wine lol
[12:02] <arrow> Does anyone know how to convert x264 format .mkv files into .avi or .mp4
[12:02] <fetale> anybody here handy with mounting ntfs partitions?
[12:02] <tjcarter> you'll have to pardon me, my connection's a bit saturated.
[12:02] <fetale> I want to liberate my datas
[12:02] <AndrewB> !ntfs | fetale
[12:02] <foxiness> fetale, !ntfs
[12:02] <sorcerer> see i mean .. i want .. linux to do my coleleg writing paper check mail .. chat .. use webcam .. uimm download files using newsgroups .. now in windows i knwo hwo to do this but in linux .. its so complicated and new tro me
[12:03] <LordLimecat> foxiness, andrewb, ubotu is dead right now
[12:03] <fetale> AndrewB && foxiness == thanks
[12:03] <foxiness> AndrewB, you bet me :)
[12:03] <AndrewB> heh
[12:03] <LordLimecat> !test
[12:03] <AndrewB> wow :( no ubotu
[12:03] <crimsun> ghaaly: sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto
[12:03] <chowmeined> sorcerer: hold on, im looking for solutions
[12:03] <Ginja_Ninja> Good night all. Take care !!
[12:03] <foxiness> AndrewB, but not at all
[12:03] <ajehuk> sorcerer - looks like the sony dcs-t1 camera's do have support under linux...
[12:03] <arrow> fetale, does this help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive?highlight=%28harddrive%29?
[12:03] <fetale> !ntfs
[12:03] <z0man> Is ubuntu 64bit to 32bit compatibility easily interchangeable?  As I know there are still some 64bit libraries still need some attention ie Java,Adobe Fash...
[12:03] <sorcerer> you seriouse
[12:03] <ghaaly> crimsun, ok
[12:03] <sorcerer> wow i love this chat room
[12:03] <ghaaly> crimsun, hold on
[12:03] <foxiness> fetale, use ntfs-3s
[12:04] <sorcerer> guys i love you guys in a non gay way lol
[12:04] <fetale> hmmm
[12:04] <chowmeined> sorcerer: hold on im still looking
[12:04] <Comrade-Sergei> sorcerer english isnt you native tongue is it?
[12:04] <Spee_Der> GN Ginja, sleep well.
[12:04] <kane77> z0man, i dont think so...
[12:04] <fetale> this drive is being particularly
[12:04] <ajehuk> sorcerer - aparrently -- Let me just look for some more info...
[12:04] <lcason> I just installed Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS + Zope package (Z3).  Anybody know default login? user credentials no workie, maybe because of sudo?
[12:04] <fetale> ... obnoxious
[12:04] <sorcerer> ajehuk: aight mate
[12:04] <z0man> So it probably be best to stick with 32bit till 64bit is fully supported
[12:04] <sorcerer> Comrade-Sergei:  umm lol
[12:04] <chowmeined> Comrade-Sergei: i seriously doubt a non native english speaker would've just said that
[12:04] <kane77> z0man, but there is no problem with java.. only flash, but guys from gnu are working on gnash ;)
[12:04] <ghaaly> crimsun, FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[12:04] <foxiness> fetale, its stable enght
[12:04] <DPic> Is there a list of the motherboards that don't work with the Feisty Fawn beta?
[12:04] <fetale> i did a dmesg|tail
[12:05] <fetale> and it says that it is unable to determine the size
[12:05] <kane77> fetale, size of what?
[12:05] <jrib> kane77, z0man: no java plugin either right?
[12:05] <Comrade-Sergei> lol
[12:05] <ardchoille> DPic: This might help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:05] <fetale> so it won't let me mount do to some bad superblock or some such
[12:05] <fetale> size of the drive
[12:05] <ghaaly> crimsun, ??
[12:05] <DPic> Thanks ardchoille
[12:05] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[12:05] <z0man> I'm just debating about wether to use 64bit or 32bit Ubuntu
[12:05] <andrew> I just want to put a font in wine this si frustrating me i'm gone
[12:06] <lcason> nutjob frequent this channel?
[12:06] <kane77> jrib, dunno about plugin.. I mean I write java and I have no problems..
[12:06] <fetale> from dmesg - ntfs_fill_super(): Unable to determine device size.
[12:06] <z0man> I've a 64bit AMD processor see.
[12:06] <askar> direct rendering: No
[12:06] <foxiness> fetale, is  ntfs-config installed?
[12:06] <askar> earlier it was yes
[12:06] <chowmeined> sorcerer: there... "Sony DSC-T1 (PTP mode)" is listed in gphoto supported cameras
[12:06] <askar> what could have gone wrong?
[12:06] <z0man> Could I still use Ubuntu 64bit and then run 32bit browser anyway (providing the 32bit libraries are installed) ?
[12:06] <fetale> oof
[12:06] <crimsun> ghaaly: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*)
[12:06] <jrib> z0man: yes
[12:06] <fetale> I didn't install it
[12:06] <kane77> z0man, yes
[12:06] <z0man> thx
[12:06] <sorcerer> chowmeined: i mean i used gtkam and its there but when i say detect it says cant detect
[12:06] <kingcobra> does anybody know what is a good tool for handling rar archives
[12:06] <tjcarter> sorcerer: related possibly: http://david.decotigny.free.fr/wiki/wakka.php?wiki=LinuxDSCS6900
[12:06] <chowmeined> sorcerer: is the camera in transfer pictures mode?
[12:06] <jrib> !rar > kingcobra    (kingcobra, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:07] <ghaaly> crimsun, done
[12:07] <foxiness> kingcobra, just install rar
[12:07] <chowmeined> sorcerer: or PTP mode?
[12:07] <kane77> z0man, but I hate to do that :) (just for the heck of it)
[12:07] <ajehuk> sorcerer - I have the sony dcs-t1 listed as compatable with linux using both ptp (picture transfer protocol) via usb, and also using gphoto via usb / or via the stick if you have a media card reader...
[12:07] <bill_k> Need help with grub conf.  (installed vista over xp+ubuntu), now i only see vista bootloader which gives me option of xp or vista.  currently booted to live-cd now, tried "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" and got "cannot find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device"
[12:07] <kingcobra> foxiness, from where
[12:07] <ghaaly> crimsun, Then
[12:07] <z0man> What you mean Kane? Answering yes?
[12:07] <ajehuk> sorcerer - how familiar are you with linux?
[12:07] <pressenter> Evening.
[12:07] <fetale> okay
[12:07] <pressenter> I have a question.
[12:07] <zero88> how do you identify yourself? * #python :You need to be identified to join that channel
[12:07] <fetale> just installed it
[12:07] <jrib> !register > zero88    (zero88, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:07] <z0man> Ya either 32bit or 64bit is best
[12:07] <kane77> !ask | pressenter
[12:07] <ubotu> pressenter: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:08] <sorcerer> ajehuk: not that i mean i just have it for a few days
[12:08] <pressenter> I have accidently taken from my user the admin privilages and right now i can do sudo, how can i bring that back?
[12:08] <LordLimecat> he lives!
[12:08] <foxiness> kingcobra, apt-get install rar or use add/romve then search for it
[12:08] <zero88> !register
[12:08] <crimsun> ghaaly: the previous command that failed.
[12:08] <LordLimecat> !welcome > ubotu
[12:08] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:08] <z0man> just don't mix too much
[12:08] <tbuss> is it possible to change the permission to 755 on a multiple files at once
[12:08] <tjcarter> sorcerer: that page indicates you will get usb-storage support already.
[12:08] <zero88> thanks jrib
[12:08] <foug> when i run sudo apt-get update, i get this error at the end. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15873/
[12:08] <z0man> chmod 755 *.txt
[12:08] <kane77> tbuss, yes -R option
[12:08] <jrib> tbuss: yes, seperate them by spaces
[12:08] <foxiness> jrib, someone told me ubot not working
[12:08] <tbuss> jrib: over 100 files
[12:08] <ajehuk> sorcerer - I'll see if I can find a nice and easy way of sorting this out for you then, - Have you got an installed ubuntu box and the camera (plus any cables) to hand?
[12:08] <jrib> foxiness: he came back
[12:09] <arrow> does anyone know of a good video converting program?
[12:09] <askar> I get "direct rendering: No" now, before it was "Yes"..
[12:09] <askar> I may have done something to the xorgfile..
[12:09] <askar> What could be wrong?
[12:09] <foxiness> !rar
[12:09] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:09] <kane77> arrow, ffmpeg?
[12:09] <ghaaly> crimsun, it works now
[12:09] <LordLimecat> im trying to compile my first kernel, im up to the compile stage, but it SEEMS like its trying to compile for i386, not for K8, like i told it ( "/usr/bin/make  EXTRAVERSION=.7-limeuxcustom  ARCH=i386 \ ")
[12:09] <ghaaly> crimsun, great mate
[12:09] <LordLimecat> can someone help me?
[12:09] <sorcerer> ajehuk: i mean .. i ahveit in plugged in and iam on ubuntu ..
[12:09] <ghaaly> crimsun, What was the problem ?
[12:09] <sorcerer> ajehuk: if thats what you meant
[12:09] <tbuss> Not sure if there is a way to just select all files in a dir and change the perms that way
[12:09] <jrib> tbuss: so?
[12:09] <foxiness> nice jrib nice
[12:09] <arrow> .mkv to .avi or .mp4 I was hoping
[12:09] <zero88> jrib ive already registered myself tho
[12:09] <ikonia> LordLimecat: ARCH=i386 is your problem
[12:09] <arrow> .mkv to something
[12:09] <jrib> zero88: /msg nickserv help identify
[12:10] <arrow> kane77 ^^^
[12:10] <tbuss> jrib: type out over 100 filenames in the terminal?
[12:10] <foxiness> zero88, /ns info zero88
[12:10] <crimsun> ghaaly: broken config. I'll push it for feisty-updates.
[12:10] <LordLimecat> ikonia: thats output during the compile...but in .config, i SPECIFIED k8
[12:10] <jrib> tbuss: you can glob them if you want, do you know about globbing?
[12:10] <ajehuk> sorcerer - good (just checking, theres nothing worse than trying to get something to work with someone and they turn around and tell you that the device they are having issues with is at work/somewhere else... :) )
[12:10] <z0man> Thanks for answering my question you guys/gals :)  I'm actually pondering to switch from my main SUSE to Ubuntu... I currently have Ubuntu in a VM Server to fiddle with.  I used VMWare to teach myself so I could teach another person  :)
[12:10] <ghaaly> crimsun, Options snd-hda-intel model=m2-2
[12:10] <ghaaly>  this line is added in /etc/modules.conf
[12:10] <chowmeined> sorcerer: and while they are working on that.. what is your camera model again?
[12:10] <foug> when i run sudo apt-get update, i get this error at the end. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15873/
[12:10] <ghaaly> crimsun, should I remove it ?
[12:10] <fetale> hmmm... ntfs-config didn't seem to work
[12:10] <tbuss> jrib: no, but I think that is what I need, you mean group them somehow
[12:10] <LordLimecat> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15874/
[12:10] <foxiness> zero88, yes you are registered
[12:10] <crimsun> ghaaly: err, yes, definitely
[12:11] <chowmeined> sorcerer: i mean mouse
[12:11] <ikonia> LordLimecat: the cpu type in make menuconfig is for optimisation of the running kernel for that cpu, check out the make file to see whats setting i386
[12:11] <chowmeined> sorcerer: what model mouse do you have
[12:11] <kane77> arrow, it does support mkv...
[12:11] <crimsun> ghaaly: then reboot and see if the default settings work
[12:11] <fetale> going to do some research on this HAL error, but aptitude should've installed the dependencies
[12:11] <crimsun> ghaaly: maybe I don't have to add anything at all...
[12:11] <sorcerer> chowmeined: logitec mx 700
[12:11] <crimsun> ghaaly: since that is clearly a user error
[12:11] <arrow> kane77: Oh, ffmpeg is the program?
[12:11] <madman91> hello all...
[12:11] <arrow> thx
[12:11] <Spee_Der> z0man, never give up.
[12:11] <zero88> foxiness i know.but when i try to join #python, it says* #python :You need to be identified to join that channel
[12:11] <sorcerer> gusy i really really aprreciate this what you guys doing
[12:11] <zero88> how do i do that
[12:11] <kane77> arrow, yes.. :)
[12:11] <foxiness> zero88, you may need to login /ns identify "password"
[12:11] <LordLimecat> ikonia: is this how i want it?  my goal is a kernel with support for K8 cpu instructions, without messing up all non-64-bit progs
[12:11] <z0man> Course I won't :)
[12:11] <zero88> foxiness ok ill try that
[12:12] <zero88> login /ns
[12:12] <ikonia> LordLimecat: are you building a 64bit kernel ?
[12:12] <sorcerer> ajehuk: everything is plugged in and ready lol
[12:12] <tbuss> kane77: just used the -R option thanks
[12:12] <lcason> Any Zopistas present?
[12:12] <arrow> kane77: lol, I already have it, and I've never heard of it!!
[12:12] <LordLimecat> ikonia: im sort of new to this-....i dont know.. i want to take advantage of all cpu instruction sets for my Athalon64, but dont want to run into the issues ive heard about from windows 64-bit users
[12:12] <foxiness> zero88, send me pm
[12:12] <kane77> tbuss, that means recursive (and it would change for all subdirectories..)
[12:12] <ikonia> LordLimecat: please show me uname -a
[12:12] <LordLimecat> ie, drivers, programs just dont work unless theyre 64bit
[12:13] <LordLimecat> Linux john-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Tue Mar 13 23:32:38 UTC 2007
[12:13] <jrib> tbuss: yes, * means "anything here except a . at the beginning", so for example to get all files, you use "*" and to get all files taht start with "a" you use "a*".  google for globbing, you should get some more details
[12:13] <tbuss> kane77: exactly what I needed. Trying to upload many photos for gallery2, needed to change the permissions on them
[12:13] <LordLimecat> goodbye, kane77
[12:13] <ghaaly> crimsun, Options snd-hda-intel model=m2-2 I can modify it to model=auto instead of model=m2-2
[12:13] <kingcobra> foxiness, do you know any good apps for managing split rar archives
[12:13] <ikonia> LordLimecat: can you show me the rest
[12:13] <ikonia> LordLimecat: your missing the arch
[12:13] <foug> what's the key command to return to user@bla:~$ in the terminal?
[12:13] <foxiness> zero88, you can send me pm by /msg "mynickname" your message
[12:13] <ajehuk> sorcerer - OK - lets go through this then..
[12:13] <LordLimecat> Linux john-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Tue Mar 13 23:32:38 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:13] <crimsun> ghaaly: no, just remove the entire options snd-hda-intel ... line
[12:13] <arrow> kane77, does ffmeg have a gui? and if it does how do I open it?
[12:14] <ghaaly> crimsun, ok
[12:14] <kingcobra> foxiness, i installed thru terminal using your command thanx
[12:14] <ghaaly> crimsun, hold on
[12:14] <ikonia> LordLimecat: perfect, your running i686
[12:14] <tjcarter> foug: context?
[12:14] <ghaaly> crimsun, when I reboot I might not work or WHAT
[12:14] <ikonia> LordLimecat: ok - so you don't want 64bit support
[12:14] <foug> tjcarter: huh?
[12:14] <crimsun> ghaaly: reboot, tell me if it works
[12:14] <sorcerer> ajehuk: ok .. shoot away
[12:14] <tbuss> jrib: I would like to isolate just the ones I actually needed to change, I've used that option once and actually purged apps I needed :)
[12:14] <LordLimecat> ikonia: not if it causes ANY issues...i want it transparent to MOST programs (a few not working is not an issue)
[12:14] <ghaaly> crimsun, ok
[12:14] <tjcarter> foug: you asked a very vague question.
[12:14] <ghaaly> crimsun, hold on
[12:14] <foxiness> kingcobra, sorry no ,
[12:14] <Woody_> please, i need help!
[12:14] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: there are some issues with flash and 64bit
[12:14] <ghaaly> crimsun, I'll reboot now
[12:14] <ikonia> LordLimecat: no - you don't want 64bit because your not running a 64bit os
[12:14] <jrib> tbuss: you use the appropriate glob pattern then
[12:14] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: if all you want is 64bit though..
[12:15] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: there is a 64bit ubuntu distro
[12:15] <tjcarter> foug: return from what?
[12:15] <LordLimecat> chowmeined: .....some isnt an issue, but flash needs to work
[12:15] <Spee_Der> woody, what's up?
[12:15] <arrow> Woody_ what with?
[12:15] <foug> tjcarter: in the terminal i'm typing into nothing, just white space. There's a key command to get back to whatever it is i normally type from you know?
[12:15] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: its already all set up
[12:15] <tbuss> jrib: something like sudo aptitude purge php5*
[12:15] <foxiness> anyone here know about knigcobra q can help "do you know any good apps for managing split rar archives"
[12:15] <LordLimecat> chowmeined: i need to build my own kernel at this point--recent kernel headers update broke alsa.
[12:15] <ikonia> LordLimecat: you don't want a 64bit distro - from what you are saying
[12:15] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: there are "issues" it still can work though with some tweaking
[12:15] <tjcarter> foug: ctrl-c
[12:15] <jrib> tbuss: aren't you chmodding files?
[12:15] <foug> tjcarter: thanks
[12:15] <kingcobra> foxiness, ok thanx anyway
[12:15] <Woody_> I installed Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn, and then I installed the driver. The next time i booted, it gave me a black screen with a "drum" sound. and nothing happened then
[12:15] <LordLimecat> ikonia: thats what i thought, ive heard of tons of issues from  users
[12:15] <Woody_> the driver of the Nvidia
[12:15] <LordLimecat> but i DO want i686 or k8 optimized
[12:15] <sorcerer> ajehuk: does it matter if i have .. GTkam already ?
[12:15] <kingcobra> jrib, ubotu talks about unarchiver
[12:16] <ikonia> LordLimecat: ok - perfect
[12:16] <jrib> kingcobra: right
[12:16] <crdlb> Woody_, #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[12:16] <tbuss> jrib: yes, just an example of how I used the technique before, wasn't aware of the technical term
[12:16] <kingcobra> jrib, apt get wont do it for me though
[12:16] <ikonia> LordLimecat: why do you want "optimised" binary, you want optimised kernel option
[12:16] <foxiness> kingcobra, np
[12:16] <jrib> tbuss: ah, ok
[12:16] <Woody_> thank you
[12:16] <jrib> kingcobra: do what?
[12:16] <tjcarter> foug: it's called interrupt.  You're sending the program an interrupt signal from the keyboard.  Other way to do it is to kill -INT <process-id>
[12:16] <tbuss> jrib: thanks for your help
[12:16] <ikonia> LordLimecat: as long as the cpu is set to what you want in make menu config - your fine
[12:16] <kingcobra> jrib, download unarchiver
[12:16] <chowmeined> sorcerer: I found a howto on setting up those extra mouse buttons (back/forward in firefox etc)
[12:16] <LordLimecat> ikonia: i dont know :( ive never done this, and really only know a lot of the hardware side
[12:16] <tbuss> kane77: thanks again
[12:16] <ikonia> LordLimecat:  - ok so take a step back
[12:16] <foug> tjcarter: cool thanks, what's the title called? myname@bla ?
[12:16] <jrib> tbuss: http://rute.2038bug.com/node7.html.gz#SECTION00732000000000000000
[12:16] <sorcerer> chowmeined: nice mate .. hold on setting up the cam right now
[12:16] <kingcobra> sudo apt-get install unarchiver
[12:17] <LordLimecat> ikonia: even though i see a TON of i386 references during compile?
[12:17] <kingcobra> E: Couldn't find package unarchiver
[12:17] <ikonia> LordLimecat: you will NOT see any benifit from optimising the kernel that way
[12:17] <sorcerer> ajehuk: i just instaleld it
[12:17] <tbuss> jrib: got it thanks
[12:17] <ikonia> LordLimecat: thats fine
[12:17] <ikonia> LordLimecat: one set at a time
[12:17] <LordLimecat> i did not see any i686 during compile
[12:17] <tjcarter> foug: title?  That's just who you are and the name of your machine.
[12:17] <kingcobra> jrib, do ya know proper name
[12:17] <sorcerer> ajehuk: its installed gphoto2 ..
[12:17] <ikonia> LordLimecat: don't worry about that - as I said, one thing at a time
[12:17] <foug> tjcarter: yea i know but there's no nickname for it
[12:17] <sorcerer> ajehuk: now what
[12:17] <tbuss> jrib: sweet, just what I need.........new user
[12:17] <LordLimecat> alright
[12:17] <ikonia> LordLimecat: get your kernel working first
[12:17] <LordLimecat> alright
[12:17] <jrib> kingcobra: I don't see "unarchiver" anywhere, where did you see it?
[12:18] <Woody_> no one is answering me in ubuntu+1 :(
[12:18] <sorcerer> ajehuk: are you getting messages in the private chat room ?
[12:18] <kingcobra> jrib, !info unrar-free
[12:18] <LordLimecat> i dont suppose you have an easy way of checking my .config (it being big and all) for common errors?
[12:18] <fetale> grrr
[12:18] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: paste it on a site
[12:18] <ikonia> LordLimecat: make menuconfig
[12:18] <LordLimecat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15874/
[12:18] <jrib> kingcobra: are you on the wiki page?
[12:18] <LordLimecat> ikonia: already did that, went thru help options, disabled a ton of stuff i dont have
[12:19] <fetale> foxiness - have you had luck with ntfs-config?
[12:19] <kingcobra> yes
[12:19] <jessid> !codec
[12:19] <LordLimecat> but im worried about stuff like, disabling scsi causing sata to break or somethin
[12:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:19] <ikonia> LordLimecat: ok - thats great then
[12:19] <sorcerer> ajehuk: ok .. umm under .. gtkam .. i chose the model and say detect it says no camera found ??
[12:19] <ikonia> LordLimecat: that is possible, but there is no way to heck it
[12:19] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: CONFIG_M686=y.. sets 686 compile
[12:19] <Spee_Der> woody, patience and time. I am sure someone is working on your query......
[12:19] <jessid> !dvd
[12:19] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:19] <Cosmo_> adaptr: I couldn't find it on the list, the deb is what the brother site had
[12:19] <Cosmo_>  I downloaded the .debs for my brother 1840c printer since it is not on the list that comes up when adding a printer, but when I install the .deb it still doesn't come up on the list. What am I doing wrong?
[12:19] <jrib> kingcobra: doesn't the wiki page say you should install "unrar"?
[12:19] <ikonia> LordLimecat: configruing the kernel relies on the user knowing something about what they are doing
[12:19] <Woody_> Spee_Der: okay sir
[12:19] <tjcarter> foug: u@h is generally what people call it, or user@host
[12:19] <chowmeined> sorcerer: what version of ubuntu 6.10 edgy eft?
[12:19] <ikonia> LordLimecat: hence why its not for "joe the average user"
[12:19] <sorcerer> chowmeined: 6.10
[12:19] <foxiness> fetale, yeah
[12:19] <LordLimecat> ikonia: what about CONFIG_MK8=y
[12:19] <foug> tjcarter: cool, thanks
[12:19] <kingcobra> jrib, im doing that now
[12:20] <ikonia> LordLimecat: what about it ?
[12:20] <jrib> kingcobra: k
[12:20] <chowmeined> sorcerer: try unplugging the camera from usb and plugging it back in.. usually there is an auto wizard that starts
[12:20] <fetale> did you ever get a HAL error?
[12:20] <LordLimecat> doesnt that replace m686?
[12:20] <ikonia> LordLimecat: as I said - one thing at a time
[12:20] <fetale> same thing happened last time I tried using ntfs-3s
[12:20] <LordLimecat> and i do know a LITTLE :) i have a decent understanding of most things in the menuconfig
[12:20] <ikonia> LordLimecat: why are you worring about optimisations
[12:20] <kingcobra> jrib, but can you tell me how to get unarchiver also
[12:20] <sorcerer> ajehuk: thats fine mate .. private it cool ill im you here .. now .. umm so the cam is not detected yet
[12:21] <jrib> kingcobra: you mean the Archive Manager?
[12:21] <ghaaly> crimsun, it doesn't work unforunately
[12:21] <LordLimecat> ikonia: i cant answer that honestly
[12:21] <LordLimecat> because i can i suppose
[12:21] <crimsun> ghaaly: ok, then I'll add your SSID for feisty-updates.
[12:21] <moDumass> Morning all
[12:21] <ikonia> LordLimecat: ok - so stop worrying about it , and concentrate on getting your kernel build and stable
[12:21] <sorcerer> ajehuk: thats what i did .. and still doesnt work
[12:21] <kingcobra> !info unrar-free jrib
[12:21] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[12:21] <LordLimecat> alright, so go back to generic, or is my cpu section of the config fine
[12:21] <bill_k> can someone help me with a boot problem?
[12:21] <ghaaly> ghaaly, how do I let it work automatically
[12:21] <chowmeined> sorcerer: we can still see what you are typing
[12:22] <kingcobra> !info unrar-free > jrib
[12:22] <ikonia> LordLimecat: your cpu selection will be fine
[12:22] <jrib> kingcobra: I don't understand what you are trying to tell me with that
[12:22] <LordLimecat> alright
[12:22] <foxiness> fetale, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions?action=show&redirect=NTFSReadWrite
[12:22] <LordLimecat> so....fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-limeuxcustom kernel_image kernel_headers?
 unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[12:22] <Cyrus25801> hey all, long time no see
[12:22] <fetale> foxiness, I'll give it a look, thanks!
[12:22] <kingcobra> jrib, can i get that unarchiver
[12:22] <ghaaly> crimsun, ??
[12:23] <ghaaly> crimsun, I need it to work automatically
[12:23] <grondinm> hello again
[12:23] <jrib> kingcobra: right, it is saying that unrar-free is an unarchiver.  In any case, you don't want unrar-free.  Get just "unrar"
[12:23] <fetale> oh
[12:23] <fetale> duh
[12:23] <sorcerer> ajehuk: umm unversal serial bus (usb:)
[12:23] <Cyrus25801> I have a little problem. I have an anime episode that has dual audio. How do I access the diffrent audio streams
[12:23] <LordLimecat> im all set to compile, ikonia?
[12:23] <sorcerer> ajehuk: thats it under the drop down 2
[12:23] <grondinm> kane77: are you still here?
[12:23] <fetale> foxiness, was trying to install HAL and not hal... works now.  thank you for the help
[12:23] <ikonia> LordLimecat: if your happy with what you selected
[12:23] <jrib> kingcobra: after you install "unrar" the Archive Manager will be able to extact rar files and you will be able to just double click (or right click) on rar's
[12:23] <kingcobra> jrib, is there a gui for unrar apart from archive manager
[12:23] <ghaaly> crimsun, ?
[12:23] <crimsun> ghaaly: so readd the line, but use model=auto
[12:23] <mattman218> i just installed prevu like i was told to, and i need to know how to use it...
[12:23] <mattman218> any help
[12:23] <jrib> kingcobra: I don't know
[12:24] <LordLimecat> ikonia: alright.  And all programs should pretty much not care about the kernel change?
[12:24] <foxiness> fetale, np
[12:24] <sorcerer> i mean i did .. a lsusb .. and only my mouse seems to be recodnized
[12:24] <jrib> kingcobra: does the nautilus right click menu count?
[12:24] <ikonia> LordLimecat: I didn't say that - but if you've not changed anything crictical you should be fine
[12:24] <ardchoille> lol
[12:24] <fetale> foxiness, I spoke too soon
[12:24] <grondinm> does anyone have a suggested windows emulator that i can try to play some games in?
[12:24] <George> I get a error when I tried to install Ubuntu
[12:24] <LordLimecat> ikonia: thats what im looking for.  Thanks :)
[12:24] <fetale> same superblock error
[12:24] <sorcerer> ajehuk: it says camera coudnt initialize
[12:24] <ghaaly> crimsun, you mean add it to /etc/modules
[12:25] <crimsun> ghaaly: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:25] <ferronica> ** (bug-buddy:18026): WARNING **: Couldn't load icon for Open Folder
[12:25] <ferronica> tushar@tushar-desktop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:25] <mattman218> anyone know anything aobut prevu???
[12:25] <foxiness> fetale, k am here np what's up?
[12:25] <kingcobra> jrib, i just want an easy way to extract split archive rars
[12:25] <ferronica> tushar@tushar-desktop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:25] <LordLimecat> ikonia: i WAS curious about the driver part.....building in modules for ATI radeon simply sets up the ability for radeon drivers to work, right?
[12:25] <fetale> foxiness, I'll try booting it in windows and repairing the mbr
[12:25] <ardchoille> !gksudo | ferronica
[12:25] <LordLimecat> its not actually building in the driver?
[12:25] <ubotu> ferronica: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[12:25] <ferronica> ** (bug-buddy:18026): WARNING **: Couldn't load icon for Open Folder
[12:25] <George> 17179658.858000 drivers/media/video/ov511/ov511.c:i2c write retries exhausted
[12:25] <George> :/
[12:25] <George> help
[12:25] <ikonia> LordLimecat: no - thats the framebuffer driver, and can be quite dangerous if you are not sure what your doing
[12:26] <sorcerer> ajehuk: and type in lsusb ?
[12:26] <jrib> kingcobra: right click > extract here  or  opening with Archive Manager is easy, no?
[12:26] <George> 17179658.858000 drivers/media/video/ov511/ov511.c:i2c write retries exhausted
[12:26] <George> whats wrong :/
[12:26] <George> I can't install Ubuntu desktop
[12:26] <LordLimecat> ikonia: i pretty much just left in ATI radeon and Nvidia defaults there...but it was a general question, for, say...USB mass storage, or other drivers
[12:26] <mattman218> ok, so no one wants to help little ole me??
[12:26] <mattman218> lol
[12:26] <ghaaly> crimsun, ok done
[12:26] <ghaaly> crimsun, I'll reboot and feedback
[12:26] <kitche> jrib: do you know if they patched the mad-wifi driver yet?
[12:26] <foxiness> fetale, be care, and dont forget about a backup "for in case"
[12:26] <jrib> kitche: nope
[12:27] <ikonia> LordLimecat: not sure I follow how your ati question relates to say usb
[12:27] <George> Hello?
[12:27] <kobie> any 1 needs help ?
[12:27] <George> I do
[12:27] <mattman218> me 2
[12:27] <kobie> talk 2 me man
[12:27] <George> I kept getting the same error when I install Ubuntu
[12:27] <foxiness> kobie, me
[12:27] <George> 17179658.858000 drivers/media/video/ov511/ov511.c:i2c write retries exhausted
[12:27] <George> thats the error
[12:27] <Cyrus25801> I have a little problem. I have an anime episode that has dual audio. How do I access the diffrent audio streams
[12:27] <ferronica> ardchoille: how do i open
[12:27] <LordLimecat> ikonia: my question is, what is the device drivers section of menuconfig doing?  Building in drivers, or SUPPORT for the drivers
[12:27] <ardchoille> ferronica: How do you open what?
[12:27] <sorcerer> errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr guys you guys are fgonna KILL ME PLEASE DONT
[12:27] <macabro22> Hi, can I get help setting up my wireless card? It's a Encore Electronic card(inserted in the laptop card reader
[12:28] <ikonia> either building them into the kernel - or building them as kernel modules
[12:28] <nownot> can someone point me to a good tutorial for squid?
[12:28] <sorcerer> I GOT IT TO WORK .. BUT ITS ALL MY FAULT AND STUPITITY
[12:28] <fr500> Cyrus25801: in what player?
[12:28] <jrib> sorcerer: relax, it's ok
[12:28] <sorcerer> JUST DONT CUSS ME OUT
[12:28] <ferronica> ardchoille: sources.list
[12:28] <bruenig> !caps | sorcerer
[12:28] <ubotu> sorcerer: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:28] <George> Anyone?
[12:28] <George> Why can't I intall Ubuntu :/
[12:28] <foxiness> kobie, how can i know what insalled by defalut say on ubuntu 6.10 "exp is xchat there by default or not "?
[12:28] <Arkh> I need some help for installing pdo on ubuntu edgy
[12:28] <ajehuk> sorcerer - you OK?
[12:28] <Cyrus25801> fr500: well i tries VLC but I don't know how to access the diffrent streams
[12:29] <ardchoille> ferronica:  You can do: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <sorcerer> GUYS .. LOL .. the camera wasnt on somhow and it just automatically ..poped up in the desktop as a mount buut still isnt recodnized it gtkam ?
[12:29] <fr500> Cyrus25801: with totem i think you select the audio menu and select the stream
[12:29] <jrib> kingcobra: ping me if you run into any problems with unrar, I'll be afk for a bit
[12:29] <mattman218> i need help
[12:29] <macabro22> I need some help on enabling my wireless card. Can someone help?
[12:29] <bruenig> mattman218, in what capacity
[12:30] <sorcerer> it still doesnt come up on ..on my gtkam ?
[12:30] <foxiness> !ask
[12:30] <bruenig> !wifi | macabro22 may wish to read these first
[12:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:30] <Cyrus25801> fr500: thanx will try that
[12:30] <ubotu> macabro22 may wish to read these first: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:30] <George> I need help with installing Ubuntu I keep getting 17179658.858000 drivers/media/video/ov511/ov511.c:i2c write retries exhausted
[12:30] <mattman218> lol, i need to install a program that isn't in repos
[12:30] <bruenig> mattman218, what is it
[12:30] <fr500> mattman218: what prog?
[12:30] <ardchoille> mattman218: Whic program?
[12:30] <LordLimecat> ikonia: thanks for all yer help :)
[12:30] <ikonia>  no problem
[12:30] <George> I need help with installing Ubuntu I keep getting 17179658.858000 drivers/media/video/ov511/ov511.c:i2c write retries exhausted
[12:30] <mattman218> k9copy 1.1.1-3
[12:30] <wiiman> hey guys
[12:30] <vox754> !repeat > George
[12:30] <bruenig> !info k9copy
[12:30] <ubotu> k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0~beta1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 630 kB, installed size 1708 kB
[12:30] <ardchoille> !info k9copy
[12:31] <vox754> !repeat | George
[12:31] <ubotu> George: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:31] <George> :/
[12:31] <bruenig> mattman218, what functionality do you need
[12:31] <sorcerer> umm not really so can i erase .. gtkam form system
[12:31] <ferronica> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15877/
[12:31] <mattman218> i need to back up my dvds that have structure prtection
[12:31] <wiiman> do you think that linspire would be better for a new linux user, kubuntu, or ubuntu?
[12:31] <ferronica> ardchoille: got error a bug report :(
[12:31] <bruenig> mattman218, and 1.1.0 won't do that?
[12:31] <wiiman> it's for my mother...she wants open office and the internet basically
[12:32] <ferronica> ardchoille: open that link
[12:32] <ajehuk> sorcerer - I wouldnt yet - lets find you a nice gui application to use first, and make sure it all works...
[12:32] <fr500> wiiman: any flavor would do for that
[12:32] <LordLimecat> wiiman: ubuntus pretty good about that, havent tried linspire....
[12:32] <mattman218> nope, it crashes constantly
[12:32] <vox754> wiiman, ubuntu
[12:32] <ardchoille> ferronica: Not sure what all that is but you can safely ignore the first warning. I don't know about the others.
[12:32] <foxiness> is there a website wiht how to install xchat or gnome-xchat for complete noob ? "step by step" and how to use it?
[12:32] <bruenig> mattman218, do "sudo apt-get build-dep k9copy" to build the necessary dependencies and then compile the other one from source
[12:32] <LordLimecat> wiiman: if you wait a few days, you can order free (or much faster, paid) disks to be shipped to you
[12:32] <ferronica> ardchoille: ok
[12:32] <fr500> foxiness: sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome !
[12:33] <mattman218> ok, brb
[12:33] <ferronica> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15877/
[12:33] <furu> i try to play some mp3. music but i cant get any sound
[12:33] <bruenig> foxiness, xchat, not xchat gnome
[12:33] <Sivik> how do i use dd to change a file from a .trx to a .bin?
[12:33] <furu> ??
[12:33] <sorcerer> ajehuk: ok mate so what do you recomend
[12:33] <JookieLova> hey guys, first time installing Linux and I'm having a problem with partitioning an IDE 200gig hard drive, can someone help me?
[12:33] <wiiman> i have a real fast connection
[12:33] <sorcerer> chowmeined: hey mate you there ..
[12:33] <JookieLova> problem with partitioning as in, it gives me an error and install doesnt start
[12:33] <chowmeined> sorcerer: do you really need gtkam then?
[12:33] <furu> can  someone help me?
[12:33] <tjcarter> foug: No problem, u@h is useful to have because you can connect to an entire world full of machines.
[12:33] <foxiness> fr500, thanks not for me sorry this for other ppl on local fourm
[12:34] <chowmeined> sorcerer: thats normally how it works you can just import the photos into fspot or something or just copy them
[12:34] <fr500> ok
[12:34] <kitche> Sivik: umm man dd but let me see if I get the correct syntax
[12:34] <Sivik> Jookie: whats the error
[12:34] <foug> tjcarter: ahh got'cha, sry just installed beryl and having problems :)
[12:34] <moDumass> hmm, what command do i type to get a list of all the HDDS attached to this machine?
[12:34] <bruenig> foxiness, go to #xchat, they have a faq in the topic and I am sure they could direct you to something else if it exists
[12:34] <Sivik> kitche: already looking htere, can't figure out what to use
[12:34] <Sivik> bruenig: df -l will display what drives are currently mounted
[12:34] <vox754> moDumass, "sudo fdisk -l"
[12:34] <parite> a
[12:34] <moDumass> thanks
[12:34] <kitche> Sivik: dd if=file.trx of=/home/user/file.bin looks right
[12:34] <zero88> wheres the file that runs apt-get ?
[12:34] <foxiness> bruenig, ok thanks a lot for point me to the right dir
[12:34] <tjcarter> I mean, just within easy reach I have miya, izumi, chibi, torii, and a couple of machines that aren't mine.
[12:35] <mattman218> bruenig, could you tell me about some errors if i have them?
[12:35] <Sivik> kitche: i will try that
[12:35] <chowmeined> sorcerer: yes im here
[12:35] <kitche> Sivik: I had to see which was which for if and of
[12:35] <brunoUT> i have a quick question....what is the best burning software out there for ubuntu??
[12:35] <furu> i need some support...  i try to play mp3 music but i cant get any sound.. what should i do? or installed??
[12:35] <bruenig> mattman218, yeah and I forgot to say before if you haven't already do "sudo apt-get build-essential" that is necessary for compiling in general
[12:35] <LordLimecat> test>LordLimecat
[12:35] <bruenig> !mp3 | furu
[12:35] <ubotu> furu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:35] <brunoUT> a burning software that does everything!
[12:35] <sorcerer> chowmeined: how do i getthe button to work on my mouse /.
[12:35] <sorcerer> ajehuk: digi cam will recodnize my camera?
[12:36] <brunoUT> !burning
[12:36] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:36] <bruenig> brunoUT, k3b probably
[12:36] <chowmeined> sorcerer: http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/06/06/tip-my-logitech-mx700-mouse-with-linux-and-firefox/.. there is a howto try that and if it doesn't work.. come ask
[12:36] <kitche> !best | brunoUT but k3b is one of the best but they use the same tools really
[12:36] <ubotu> brunoUT but k3b is one of the best but they use the same tools really: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[12:36] <bruenig> cdrecord and growisofs are good
[12:36] <JookieLova> any idea why ubuntu install cant partition my hard drive? I get an error about creating partition or unable to create disklabel
[12:36] <brunoUT> word....where can i find k3b at?
[12:36] <bruenig> !info k3b | brunoUT
[12:36] <mattman218> bruenig, yeah, i did that, i followed a howto and i get an error about checking KDE, and then it says that i have the wrong prefix or something
[12:36] <ubotu> brunout: k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3975 kB, installed size 8432 kB
[12:37] <bruenig> mattman218, what does the error say
[12:37] <brunoUT> does keb burn dvd/cd images as well?
[12:37] <sorcerer> chowmeined: cheers
[12:37] <retarded> JookieLova,  i had that problem with a defunct raid controller but that doesnt apply to you i guess
[12:37] <JookieLova> yeah mines IDE
[12:37] <kitche> brunoUT: most people use k3b even if they are on gnome
[12:37] <JookieLova> weird thing is, when I go back into Windows, it shows the partitions were made!
[12:37] <bruenig> brunoUT, yes, burning isos is the easiest thing to do pretty much, you could do that on any of the burning programs
[12:37] <mattman218> bruenig, here's a link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409785
[12:38] <JookieLova> but when I go back to the install, it doesnt see the partitions it made before!
[12:38] <brunoUT> awesome thanks
[12:38] <sorcerer> ajehuk: so ill get digicam .. ? and could i use this model camera as a web cam 2??
[12:38] <brunoUT> in windows i could burn a dvd in about 6 minutes....in linux its been takin around 15 minutes....any ideas why?
[12:38] <ajehuk> sorcerer - no idea, video can be a little harder as the way it is streamed can be utterly non-standard,
[12:39] <wiiman> ok
[12:39] <bruenig> mattman218, ./configure --prefix=/usr
[12:39] <moDumass> hi so i used this command to create a mount point "sudo mkdir /media/sda1" what command would i use to remove that mount point?
[12:39] <Chai_Sangeen> hello everyone
[12:39] <markvandenborre> hi all, I reported a bug back in 2006/05: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer/+bug/43699
[12:39] <wiiman> i'm going to go ahead and download ubuntu do you think it will work on 128 meg ram and 1.1 ghz intel?
[12:39] <mattman218> bruenig, i did that, and get the same error
[12:39] <bruenig> moDumass, sudo rm /media/sda1
[12:39] <wiiman> it's an hp desktop
[12:39] <markvandenborre> since then, gstreamer clearly has evolved, and the machine I experienced the bug on has broken
[12:39] <Chai_Sangeen> anyone know of a irc client i can run in terminal?
[12:40] <LordLimecat> wiiman: 192 ram might be more comfortable, but 128 will work
[12:40] <bruenig> mattman218, did you sudo apt-get build-dep k3b
[12:40] <jrib> moDumass: sudo rmdir /media/sda1
[12:40] <fr500> Chai_Sangeen: irssi
[12:40] <sorcerer> ic
[12:40] <markvandenborre> any idea if I should close this bug report?
[12:40] <JookieLova> is there anyway to partition/format a hard drive in Windows XP so that I can just go install in it in Ubuntu?
[12:40] <Chai_Sangeen> fr500, thanx i'll check it out and report back
[12:40] <ajehuk> wiiman 6.06 worked (albeit slowly) on my unisys aquanta (p133 with 64Mb ram)
[12:40] <sorcerer> chowmeined: umm where does this lines i have to ass what file should i opend to do this doesnt ?
[12:40] <markvandenborre> (it's still shown as unconfirmed)
[12:40] <mattman218> bruenig, no, but i have that program, and in works
[12:41] <brunoUT> in windows i could burn a dvd in about 6 minutes....in linux its been takin around 15 minutes....any ideas why?
[12:41] <tjcarter> speaking of torii, I'm rebooting it.  Back shortly.  =)
[12:41] <wiiman> jookie yeah..
[12:41] <jrib> JookieLova: the ubuntu install will let you partition and format your drive
[12:41] <kitche> jrib: nevermind my question eariler the bug is 4 months old and seems ubuntu patched it
[12:41] <jrib> kitche: ah
[12:41] <chowmeined> sorcerer: this file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:41] <JookieLova> jrib, the ubuntu install does NOT partition my drive, keeps giving errors
[12:41] <moDumass> jrib It gives me this response "rm: cannot remove `/media/sda1': Is a directory"
[12:41] <furu> that dident help.. i can play the music and i see it works but i get no sound!!
[12:42] <furu> what should i do?
[12:42] <bruenig> mattman218, the problem is the headers for kde though. You must not have them installed. Try sudo apt-get install kdelibs4-dev and then running the command again
[12:42] <JookieLova> in Windows I can partition as fat32, but a max of 32 gig partition, and if I leave unallocated space, the ubuntu install still doesnt finish
[12:42] <JookieLova> my hard drive is 200 gigs
[12:42] <vox754> JookieLova, use the Knoppix Live CD to partition
[12:42] <jrib> moDumass: I gave you a different command
[12:42] <JookieLova> thanks vox, I'll give that a try
[12:42] <sorcerer> so if i wanan openit up i type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:42] <LordLimecat> JookieLova: if youre using windows XP, you should be using NTFS regardless if you can help it
[12:42] <JookieLova> i am, but its a totally seperate drive I want to install Ubuntu onto
[12:43] <LordLimecat> ah
[12:43] <Cam> I need to format my hardrive...(completly erase everything)because my configuration for GRUB is completly messed up...can I FORMAT MY DRIVE from the ubuntu LIVE CD?? HELP!!!
[12:43] <bruenig> moDumass, I meant to say sudo rm -rf /media/sda1
[12:43] <mattman218> bruenig, thanks, i'll try that and brb
[12:43] <bruenig> Cam, yeah, run gksudo gparted
[12:43] <LordLimecat> Cam: yes, if you install gparted after booting to cd
[12:43] <bruenig> Cam, also recall that grub may be installed on the MBR, so you won't get rid of that by formatting
[12:43] <Cam> how do I install gparted from the cd?>?>
[12:43] <furu> any sopport here???
[12:43] <ajehuk> Cam - you probably dont have to refrmat your drive to get grub working again...
[12:43] <ataq> Hey, can anybody help me out with finding a site of projects that I may be able to participate in?
[12:43] <bruenig> Cam, it should already be isntalled
[12:43] <hosk> coudlnt' you just fix the MBR instead of erasing?
[12:44] <zootm> doesn't just doing a clean reinstall from the live cd reformat it anyway?
[12:44] <kitche> LordLimecat: umm gparted is on the cd it's part of the install program :)
[12:44] <zootm> i mean, just use the same partition for install
[12:44] <Cam> I have triedc reinstalling and the old grub config is still there
[12:44] <LordLimecat> kitche: o.0 i got command not found till i did apt-get on the live cd
[12:44] <Cam> I added another hasrddrive that was fried...and teh grub config was GONE!!!
[12:44] <LordLimecat> both edgy and feisty beta
[12:44] <kitche> LordLimecat: you probably didn't sudo when starting it
[12:44] <bruenig> !grub | Cam try the first link
[12:44] <kitche> or gksu :)
[12:44] <LordLimecat> kitche: pretty sure i did, but maybe i didnt
[12:44] <Cam> !grub
[12:45] <kitche> think ubotu died
[12:45] <Cam> How do I format MBR?????
[12:45] <ataq> !help
[12:45] <ataq> ya its dead!
[12:45] <moDumass> thanks all
[12:45] <Cam> ALso...I do I install gparted if the drive I want to format has gparted installed on it????
[12:45] <wiiman> do you have a disc?
[12:45] <LordLimecat> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15882/ :(
[12:46] <bruenig> Cam, the grub config is on the hard drive, are you saying you replaced that hard drive with another?
[12:46] <sorcerer> chowmeined: mate here is the line .. is this what i have to modify ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15883/
[12:46] <cafuego> Cam: Probably best is by using the `mbr' package.
[12:46] <Cam> yes..but the drive is fried
[12:46] <bruenig> Cam, the old one is fried?
[12:46] <Cam> cafuego: what is the mbr package???
[12:46] <cafuego> Cam: apt-cache show mbr
[12:46] <mattman218> bruenig, that worked now it asked me to make the file now.  what do i do?
[12:46] <ratshell> Could I ask if there is a admin here. I need to report someone abusing there channel admin privelages in a ubuntu channel?
[12:47] <Cam> bruenig: the old one is functional...but only when I press f2 at startup
[12:47] <jrib> ratshell: #ubuntu-ops
[12:47] <bruenig> mattman218, do "make" then when that is done do "sudo make install"
[12:47] <LordLimecat> i ran into this error while compiling kernel, any help appreciated: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15882/
[12:47] <Cam> bruenig: The new one is fried but doesnt have any grub configuration
[12:47] <myil> hey all, how can I get php 5.2
[12:47] <kitche> Ubotu is being restarted about 5 minutes till it's up
[12:47] <J`06> Anyone have some quick tips to get VLC to play a dvd?
[12:47] <sorcerer> chowmeined:  you there
[12:48] <myil> my version of ubuntu only sees php5.0
[12:48] <chowmeined> sorcerer: one sec
[12:48] <sorcerer> ok
[12:48] <mattman218> bruenig, ok.  i have checkinstall linstalled, so would i just use sudo checkinstall instead of make install?
[12:48] <kitche> myil: umm compile it
[12:48] <bruenig> mattman218, if you want
[12:48] <LordLimecat> correction: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15884/
[12:48] <kitche> myil: maybe it's in backports but which version are you on?
[12:48] <myil> kitche : I'd prefer a binary if one is avaliable
[12:49] <myil> hold and I will let you know
[12:49] <cafuego> myil: php 5/2 will be in Ubuntu 7.04, which is to be released next week.
[12:49] <Cam> How do I format MBR????????????????
[12:49] <cafuego> No! This week!
[12:49] <Cam> I did apt-cache show mbr and got some information...but I need to format MBR
[12:49] <chowmeined> sorcerer: change it to that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15885/
[12:49] <bruenig> Cam, install something on top of it
[12:49] <cafuego> Cam: 'I need to reinstall my boot-loeader' is what you're trying to say.
[12:50] <Cam> yes
[12:50] <s0nix> Hi, is there a way to synchronize ALL Kontact information (including all plugins, note, read mail, todo list, contacts) ? cause i want to use this wonderful software on my home pc AND on my laptop. thx for ur answer
[12:50] <shawn34> i have wifi driver installed and i can see the device, can someone help me enable it?
[12:50] <kitche> Cam: umm I would give you the way to do it but it's more advanced then most know
[12:50] <sorcerer> chow can i just copy that and paste it
[12:50] <Cam> Should I just buy anotehr harddrive???
[12:50] <autopsy> Hello. Using Ubuntu 6.10 I have created a directory /root/chroot. In that directory I have expanded a few neccessary packages from Slackware 3.1 to get a chroot'able environment and a shell of course.. however, whenever I run anything such as "ls" or "mount" from within the chroot it produces a segmentation fault. Can anyone clue me in as to what might be going wrong here?
[12:50] <cafuego> Cam: 'sudo grub-install /dev/hdX'  where hdX is your primary boot disk.
[12:50] <bruenig> Cam, the mbr is not on the hard drive
[12:50] <Cam> where is the MBR??
[12:50] <Cam> I guess gub isnt on it..when I use antoerh harddrive grub does not load
[12:50] <cafuego> Cam: In the first 512bytes of a disk.
[12:50] <kitche> autopsy: might ask in ##slackware but 3.1 is so old
[12:50] <autopsy> Actually the MBR is on the HDD.
[12:50] <myil> erm, how was it I check my version again?
[12:50] <foug> hi i'm using beryl and my buttons (minimize, maximize and close) have stopped showing on all windows. The whole border itself is gone. Anyone have a clue? I asked in #beryl and most people are afk
[12:51] <sorcerer> chowmeined: couldi jus paste that in there
[12:51] <myil> I always think its uname -r
[12:51] <myil> lol
[12:51] <J`06> well, I heard VLC was the way to go when viewing DVDs but I guess I can't.  bummer.
[12:51] <shawn34> i have wifi driver installed and i can see the device, can someone help me enable it?
[12:51] <kitche> myil: lsb_release -a
[12:51] <myil> thanks
[12:51] <Cam> Is there a linux distro that has gparted on it????????????????/
[12:51] <jrib> Cam: ubuntu
[12:51] <chowmeined> sorcerer: yup.. just replace the block you just pasted me
[12:51] <Cam> haha
[12:51] <George> I need help with installing Ubuntu I keep getting 17179658.858000 drivers/media/video/ov511/ov511.c:i2c write retries exhausted
[12:52] <shawn34> i have wifi driver installed and i can see the device, can someone help me enable it?
[12:52] <kitche> Cam: or you can grab the gparted livecd but ubuntu live cd has it
[12:52] <bruenig> it is on the hard drive, but you don't format it per se, unless you have some some magnets laying around
[12:52] <Cam> thanks!!!!
[12:52] <cafuego> Cam: You need to reinstall the bootloader, not fiddle with a partitioning app.
[12:52] <sorcerer> chowmeined: i did .. and i saved it do i have to restart to check if it works
[12:52] <George> !!!!
[12:52] <zootm> George: Are you sure there's enough space on the drive and it's not broken?
[12:52] <myil> breezy 5.1
[12:52] <myil> amd64
[12:52] <chowmeined> sorcerer: try logging out and login again
[12:52] <Cam> cafuego: How do I reinstall the bootloader
[12:52] <ratshell> Question to yall. If you have a problem and I have found a solution that has worked for me in the past. Do you think I should suggest it to you?
[12:52] <sorcerer> chowmeined: brb
[12:52] <Kamaria> Question: Is there a way to convert an NTFS drive to FAT32 in Ubuntu?
[12:52] <shawn34> yes
[12:52] <cafuego> Cam: I tolsd you not 2 minutes ago.
[12:52] <George> !patience
[12:52] <cafuego> Cam: 'sudo grub-install /dev/hdX'  where hdX is your primary boot disk.
[12:52] <wiiman> it always says i passed an undefined mode number whats that mean?
[12:52] <bruenig> !worksforme | ratshell considering this, perhaps
[12:52] <George> :/
[12:52] <George> Help!
[12:52] <foug> hi i'm using beryl and my buttons (minimize, maximize and close) have stopped showing on all windows. The whole border itself is gone. Anyone have a clue? I asked in #beryl and most people are afk
[12:53] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:53] <bruenig> oh yeah no ubotu
[12:53] <Cam> thanks cafuego I'll try that
[12:53] <ubotu> ratshell considering this, perhaps: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:53] <cafuego> Cam: That will rewrite the MBR with your grub confiration.
[12:53] <sorcerer> chowmeined: umm in firefox it doesnt seem to be working
[12:53] <cafuego> Cam: Note, if you've added a new HDD, you may need to change the grub menu.lst file
[12:54] <Kamaria> I gotta change my NTFS partition to FAT32 while retaining my data, because I can't boot into Windows anymore.
[12:54] <myil> what is the backport repo line to add to the apt sources?
[12:54] <Cam> cafuego: wait I think I might have tried that. I'm scared to rigth anyhting in the MBR because somebody said thats not harddrive
[12:54] <chowmeined> sorcerer: ok.. log out.. press ctrl+alt+backspace.. and then log in again
[12:54] <myil> I can give that a shot
[12:54] <bruenig> Kamaria, you are going to have to backup the data onto something else and then format and then restore
[12:54] <kitche> !about
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about about - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <pimpnasty> is there anything like wine because wine doesnt work with steam
[12:54] <cafuego> Cam: Yeah, but that's not quite true.
[12:54] <bruenig> Kamaria, or, how much of your drive is filled up
[12:54] <kitche> bruenig: there you go told the ops that ubotu got stuck and they rebooted it :)
[12:54] <sorcerer> ok
[12:54] <Kamaria> Too much. :P
[12:55] <Cam> cafuego: I added a non-fucntioning drive...replaced the other drive...and grub didnt appear
[12:55] <Kamaria> Not enough to copy it to my Linux partition.
[12:55] <bruenig> Kamaria, but how much is filled, percentage wise
[12:55] <Kamaria> Hmm
[12:55] <Cam> I want to boot with the live disk and just erase my functioning drive that has all the configuration on it
[12:55] <cafuego> Cam: Yes, that emans the system is trying to boot from the new drive, which has an empty MBR. Rewriting a new MBR there by reinstalling grub is what you want to do.
[12:55] <Kamaria> 81.7%
[12:55] <Cam> cafuego: I then want to install ubuntu on the clean harddriv
[12:55] <George> I need help with installing Ubuntu I keep getting 17179658.858000 drivers/media/video/ov511/ov511.c:i2c write retries exhausted
[12:56] <cafuego> Cam: Oh, then don't worry about it. Just boot from CD, install to the new drive, and delete the old one from your new Ubuntu installation.
[12:56] <myil> basically I need the SPL library
[12:56] <sorcerer> chowmeined: mate it worked cheers mand both my issues were solved .. but see if something happens to this system .. like crashes or when i reinstall all this its going to be a pain to remember everything again
[12:56] <myil> which is at php 5.1.2
[12:56] <cafuego> Cam: Doing it that way is much, much easier.
[12:56] <Cam> cafuego: my problem is that my new harddrive does NOT work...the old one works but has bad grub configurtation
[12:56] <myil> I believe
[12:56] <bruenig> Kamaria, yeah back up and format then
[12:56] <TheSilentW> hi everyone, 2 questions, what is the path to the default ubuntu wallpaper, cause i used to use xchat on transparent background when i used ubuntu default background and now i have a blackish wallpaper and cant read the xchat window?   And question 2, cedega is not free, and has a subscrition, but, if i pay 1 month i can use it forever just without updates or is the subscription for monthly use ?
[12:56] <Cam> I want to erase the data from the old drive
[12:57] <Hasrat_USA> how to convert a pdf file into several jpeg files in GNU/Linux?
[12:57] <sorcerer> chowmeined: thanks a heap
[12:57] <bruenig> TheSilentW, monthly use for the last question
[12:57] <chowmeined> sorcerer: you dont need to reformat to upgrade to new releases
[12:57] <Cam> cafuego: I'm thinking about just buying another harddrive
[12:57] <kitche> TheSilentW: you won't get updates and support but you have to pay for 3 months
[12:57] <chowmeined> sorcerer: and linux doesn't crash
[12:57] <cafuego> Hasrat_USA: `convert' or `pdftk'
[12:57] <TheSilentW> kitche, then i can use forever?
[12:57] <chowmeined> sorcerer: and linux almost never needs to be restarted
[12:57] <cafuego> Hasrat_USA: Actually, just `convert' - which lives in the `imagemagick' package.
[12:58] <kitche> TheSilentW: yea I have cedega on a cd for slackware that I use
[12:58] <jrib> TheSilentW: can't you just right click ont he desktop and go to "Change Desktop Background"?
[12:58] <chowmeined> sorcerer: there is really only one time you need to restart (upgrading the kernel) and even that can be avoided if you use some advanced tricks
[12:58] <Hasrat_USA> cafuego i have 'convert', which is one of the several command-line based programs that came with ImageMagick
[12:58] <sorcerer> chowmeined: i need to understand thesystem .. see i have three partitions ..like one for windows, one for ubuntu .. and the other a fat 32 system so i can download allmy files into that and can be .. accesed by bothe the OS
[12:58] <cafuego> Cam: In that case, boot an Ubuntu cdrom and delete the data on the old drive.
[12:58] <shamrock_hh> chowmeined: what "advanced" tricks?
[12:59] <TheSilentW> jrib, maybe u didnt understand, i wanted the path to it, so that i could make my xchat background image = it
[12:59] <sorcerer> chowmeined:  have you ever downloaded stuff off newsgroups ?
[12:59] <Cam> cafuego: okay! umm do I use gparted?
[12:59] <TheSilentW> jrib, on that menu, doesnt show a path
[12:59] <cafuego> Cam: Whatever parttion editor you want.
[12:59] <adaptr> shamrock_hh: you can do a kernel re-up under certain circumstances
[12:59] <ardchoille> TheSilentW: Usually the wallpapers are in /usr/share/backgrounds or /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds
[12:59] <jrib> TheSilentW: ah, yeah you're rigth I didn't understand :)  I think it is /usr/share/backgrounds/something
[12:59] <Cam> cafuego: thanks you saved my life
[12:59] <chowmeined> shamrock_hh: kexec
[12:59] <mattman218> anybody wanna help with some errors?
[12:59] <TheSilentW> ardchoille, jrib, thx :)
[01:00] <cafuego> Hasrat_USA: Ok, that'll do. "convert foo.pdf bar.jpg"  --> will create bar-1.jpg ... bar-n.jpg
[01:00] <gcc_> guys if i install ubuntu 7.04 beta do i need to upgrade when 7.04 stable will be released?
[01:00] <Hasrat_USA> cafuego: for example (actually it shouldn't be 'for example', cause what i'm saying is true) i have foobar.pdf in root/home/hasrat. how can i convert this pdf file, which has several pages, (approximately 156 pages altogether and contains text and images) into 156 jpeg files and automatically put the jpeg files into /root/home/hasrat
[01:00] <Cam> gcc_: the beta becomes stable in a few days
[01:00] <NessieLiberation> gcc_: i assume you will only need to upgrade the packages which change between beta and final
[01:00] <Cam> gcc_: Id just wait it out
[01:00] <RichW> Hi, I have a RaLink based card.. networkmanager-gnome dont support the WPA encryption feautres of my card.. yet if i configure /etc/network/interfaces manually.. it connects fine
[01:00] <sorcerer> chowmeined: how do i see hoe much space i have left .. on .. umm my ubuntu system (is that the file system under computer ) ..
[01:00] <zootm> gcc_: The update should be automatic like all updates
[01:00] <zootm> ...should
[01:01] <RichW> Why on earth did they leave out WPA options in networkmanager
[01:01] <ardchoille> Cam: That date may change I hear.
[01:01] <RichW> ?
[01:01] <RichW> Can someone tell me?
[01:01] <Seveas> RichW, they didn't :)
[01:01] <wiiman> i got linspire running i just need to get ubuntu now
[01:01] <Cam> ardchoille: really??? oh man
[01:01] <chowmeined> sorcerer: df -h
[01:01] <kevmaine> I can't seem to update my machine when the firewall is on, why do the archive servers try
[01:01] <cafuego> RichW: Dunno, mine does WPA just fine.
[01:01] <kevmaine> to contact my machine
[01:01] <NessieLiberation> gcc_: but at this point, i wonder if its hardly worth it with the beta unless you want to help without anything
[01:01] <wiiman> the problem is this computer takes pc133 ram
[01:01] <Hasrat_USA> cafuego thanks a lot. one last question though. where would i be able to find the jpeg files once converting stops?
[01:01] <Seveas> RichW, ralink drivers are crappy. You ned iwpriv tricks
[01:01] <chowmeined> sorcerer: im sure there are gui tools.. but i always forget them so i use a lot of command line tools
[01:01] <Cam> ardchoille: do you have a link to that information?
[01:01] <wiiman> and it's only got 128 megs
[01:02] <cafuego> Hasrat_USA: In the directory you were in when you ran the command.
[01:02] <Hasrat_USA> wiiman how much did your wii cost? i am planning on buying one too :)
[01:02] <gcc_> NessieLiberation, u mean there might be broken packs or what?
[01:02] <wiiman> i got mine for free
[01:02] <kitche> !offtopic | Hasrat_USA
[01:02] <ubotu> Hasrat_USA: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:02] <wiiman> and modded it for like $30
[01:02] <ardchoille> Cam: I have been trying to get a link myself to verify. Someone said the rc is delayed and there's usually a week between rc and stable.
[01:02] <RichW> Seveas: The driver works fine... Ok it does have a few quirks of only allowing FCC approved wireless channels by default but they could program all this into ubuntu?
[01:02] <shaun> K i want to install windows XP as a seperate partion and have already installed ubuntu onto the whole system what are my options guys???
[01:02] <George> I need help with installing Ubuntu I keep getting 17179658.858000 drivers/media/video/ov511/ov511.c:i2c write retries exhausted
[01:02] <wiiman> super paper mario is amazing
[01:02] <Hasrat_USA> okay thanks Cafuego i believe i would finally be able to make a readable e-book for my PSP handheld system using your help :-D
[01:02] <RichW> Makes me want to learn some C++ and submit patches
[01:02] <Hasrat_USA> with your help
[01:02] <Seveas> RichW, no, they need to fix thir driver to properly support WPA
[01:02] <vox754> !offtopic > wiiman
[01:02] <wiiman> get another hard drive
[01:02] <mattman218> I have some errors when installing k9copy
[01:03] <Seveas> RichW, and neither that diver nor n-m are written in c++ :)
[01:03] <sorcerer> chowmeined:  are you talkiing about command line programs for downloading stuff from newsgroups like .. www.newsbin.com?
[01:03] <chowmeined> sorcerer: oh that was for hard drive space
[01:03] <ardchoille> Seveas: Slap me if this is ot, but is there a link we can use to verify the alleged delay in the Feisty stable release.
[01:03] <wiiman> shaun
[01:03] <shaun> wiiman, where u talking to me?
[01:03] <wiiman> yeah
[01:03] <mattman218> the ./configure worked, but make failed
[01:03] <RichW> Seveas: I just connected a few minutes ago to my wpa/tkip network? What you mean properly support? I just hate having to configure manually.. not good for ubuntus user friendly image
[01:03] <Seveas> ardchoille, I don't know of such a delay
[01:03] <chowmeined> sorcerer: i never did newsgroups but.. im pretty sure thunderbird can do newsgroups
[01:03] <wiiman> unless you can resize the partition
[01:03] <shaun> how would i do that
[01:04] <sorcerer> does anyone in here play warcraft 3 ?
[01:04] <ardchoille> Cam: I may be wrong. Seveas says he n=knows of no delay and he would know.
[01:04] <NessieLiberation> ardchoille: i've heard rumours too
[01:04] <moDumass> hey all so i installed ntfs-3g, and created a folder in /media "sudo mkdir /media/sda1" and then added "/dev/sdb5    /media/sdb5 ntfs-3g  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0" to fstab, and went into console and "sudo mount -a" but still no write access..... why is this so?
[01:04] <mattman218> guys, and gals, errors suck
[01:04] <Seveas> mattman218, true that :)
[01:04] <jrib> moDumass: I've never used ntfs-3g, but umask=0222 will not give you write access
[01:05] <wiiman> i'm not sure
[01:05] <w0t> oO
[01:05] <Seveas> moDumass, that umask *prevents* you from getting write access :)
[01:05] <wiiman> why dont you just reinstall it?
[01:05] <mattman218> seveas, wanna help? lol
[01:05] <NessieLiberation> this is what i used from the guide    /dev/sda1       /mnt/win        ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.utf8 0 0
[01:05] <shaun> how?
[01:05] <NessieLiberation> works fine
[01:05] <sha> Hello, i use X.org and i have a nvidia graphical card, do someone know how i can set my brightness/HUE/saturation for my desktop, and not for the videos only ?
[01:05] <wiiman> it would be faster then googleing a way to do what you want
[01:05] <Seveas> mattman218, why not just install k9copy from the repos?
[01:05] <Seveas> !info k9copy
[01:05] <ubotu> k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0~beta1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 630 kB, installed size 1708 kB
[01:06] <chowmeined> sorcerer: I used to play it a lot
[01:06] <shaun> like install windows on the whole system and then repartion and reinstall ubuntu? wouldnt it be easier to repartion with ubuntu and then install windows?
[01:06] <chowmeined> sorcerer: You can run it under linux using wine.. it says it has a gold rating (works perfectly with some tweaks)
[01:06] <mattman218> Seveas, i'm installing k9copy-1.1.1-3.  it's supposed to handle structure protection
[01:06] <moDumass> Seveas so what do i change it to to get write access? thanks btw
[01:06] <sorcerer> chowmeined:  is it sane to play it in linux .. coz i have a windows partiiton just got games lol
[01:06] <George> I need help with installing Ubuntu I keep getting 17179658.858000 drivers/media/video/ov511/ov511.c:i2c write retries exhausted
[01:06] <wiiman> does anyone know the command to restart the net server?
[01:06] <Seveas> mattman218, try this then: sudo apt-get build-dep k9copy
[01:06] <George> Anyone here?
[01:06] <Seveas> moDumass, try a umask of 0000
[01:07] <George> I need help with the error
[01:07] <chowmeined> sorcerer: wine is actually getting really good
[01:07] <sorcerer> chowmeined: were you talking about umm thunderbird the email client ?
[01:07] <chowmeined> sorcerer: wine runs native windows programs directly under linux
[01:07] <George> any?
[01:07] <jessid> !totem
[01:07] <chowmeined> sorcerer: yea it does newsgroups i think
[01:07] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:07] <sorcerer> chowmeined: you mean like download nzb files
[01:07] <mattman218> Seveas, That's not the prob... "make" fails.  i posted a thread about it
[01:07] <chowmeined> sorcerer: wine can also run counterstrike source.. diablo 2.. bunch of things
[01:07] <jessid> !codecs
[01:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:07] <Seveas> mattman218, url?
[01:07] <wiiman> i started the compuer with the ethernet cable unplugged
[01:07] <sha> Hello, i use X.org and i have a nvidia graphical card, do someone know how i can set my brightness/HUE/saturation for my desktop, and not for the videos only ?
[01:08] <arrow> ubotu is back!!
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is back!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <mattman218> Seveas, it's the last post.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2459463#post2459463
[01:08] <sha> or at least remove the color of my screen with a full saturation
[01:08] <wiiman> how do i start the internet service?
[01:08] <chowmeined> sorcerer: no.. it accesses newsgroup servers using NNTP
[01:08] <Seveas> !find k3bdevice.h
[01:08] <ardchoille> sha: gksudo nvidia-settings ?
[01:08] <moDumass> Seveas no 0000 doesnt work either, does it have to do with my user ID?
[01:08] <George> !find Help
[01:08] <George> :(
[01:08] <ubotu> File k3bdevice.h found in libk3b-dev
[01:08] <ubotu> Found: abiword-help, debhelper, devhelp, devhelp-common, gimp-help-common (and 66 others)
[01:08] <George> I been waiting for 2 hours
[01:08] <George> for someone to help me :/
[01:08] <sha> ardchoille: nvidia-setting have all except saturation :/
[01:08] <Seveas> mattman218, you need to install the libk3b-dev package
[01:09] <ardchoille> sha: Oh, ok. Didn't realise that.
[01:09] <sha> that ok :p
[01:09] <mattman218> does it matter where?
[01:09] <chowmeined> sorcerer: oh.. world of warcraft runs well under linux too
[01:09] <jrib> George: did you verify the cd?
[01:09] <Seveas> mattman218, apt-get install libk3b-dev
[01:10] <George> I need help with installing Ubuntu I keep getting 17179658.858000 drivers/media/video/ov511/ov511.c:i2c write retries exhausted <--I am running Intel Celeron with 256 mb ram
[01:10] <sorcerer> now .. see i kinda pissedat myself i gave soo much space to .. windows .. when i coudl have run warcrafdt 3 on linux
[01:10] <George> Is it my video card?
[01:10] <jrib> George: did you verify the cd?
[01:10] <George> yeah
[01:10] <George> it didn't have any problems
[01:11] <knapp> How can I remove all *.jpg's in a bunch of folders?
[01:11] <adu> hi
[01:11] <jrib> knapp: find and rm
[01:11] <chowmeined> sorcerer: you can resize ntfs partitions with native linux tools.. if you are careful
[01:11] <adu> i broke my system
[01:11] <sorcerer> chowmeined: is there anyother stuff i need to install in my linux system so it looks cool ? i installed screenlets but very unhappy coz .. see i just dont like them staying there .. i want them to popup when i press a button just to check the weather and what not .. and i also installed beryl ..
[01:11] <adu> and i want to fix it
[01:11] <ardchoille> adu: Please be more specific
[01:11] <arrow> george, You could try xubuntu, it works better for older systems
[01:11] <George> jrib>whats wrong with the CD? I had it checked already
[01:11] <jrib> knapp: or if you use zsh:  rm **/*.jpg   will remove all jpg's recursively from wherever you are at now
[01:12] <chowmeined> sorcerer: if you want to change themes and stuff check out: gnome-look.org
[01:12] <wiiman> so will ubuntu run ok on 128 meg ram?
[01:12] <jrib> George: at what point in the install process do you get that error?
[01:12] <chowmeined> sorcerer: it has wallpapers, splash screens, mouse cursors, window themes, icon themes
[01:12] <knapp> jrib thanks
[01:12] <xayon> Hi, Could anyone tell me why my hard drives are now named as "sdX" instead of "hdX", I'm really confused with this, I don't really know if this is cause of an upgrade (I use feisty fawn) or if it's something I've done...
[01:12] <bruenig> wiiman, not really, I would suggest xubuntu for that low mem
[01:12] <Seveas> xayon, it's the upgrade
[01:12] <sorcerer> chowmeined: mate heard of scrrenlets
[01:12] <arrow> wiiman, 256 is recomended
[01:12] <sorcerer> chowmeined:   splash screens ?
[01:12] <George> so if i have just 256 mb ram its ok?
[01:12] <chowmeined> sorcerer: i use gdesklets
[01:12] <kitche> xayon: you on sata system?
[01:13] <kevmaine> anyone know why having firestarter on might prevent being able to do updates?
[01:13] <chowmeined> sorcerer: splash screens pop up when you log in
[01:13] <xayon> kitche yes
[01:13] <autopsy> xayon, the HDD interface now uses libata which is what SATA disks use also.
[01:13] <chowmeined> sorcerer: you can also change the login screen theme
[01:13] <bruenig> kevmaine, there is no reason that it should
[01:13] <zootm> xayon: I think the "sd" means SATA or SCSI drive
[01:13] <mattman218> Seveas, I got new errors... lol this is crazy, they are at the same link
[01:13] <kitche> xayon: then that's why :)
[01:13] <wiiman> ok
[01:13] <wiiman> whats xubuntu?
[01:13] <zootm> that said, i don't know why it wasn't like that before ;)
[01:13] <bruenig> kevmaine, what makes you think that it is preventing being able to do updates
[01:13] <kevmaine> bruenig: I'm getting multiple hits on my firewall from the cannonical servers
[01:13] <yoasif> hey guys -- i'm having a very strange issue with a video lockup
[01:13] <jrib> kevmaine, bruenig: I've seen a bug on that or at least a forum post with a few people experiencing that
[01:13] <arrow> !xubuntu | wiiman
[01:13] <ubotu> wiiman: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[01:13] <zootm> wiiman: xubuntu is Ubuntu wth Xfce4 as its windowing thing
[01:13] <bruenig> hm
[01:13] <cafuego> zootm: they're all going to be sd* from the next Ubuntu onward.
[01:14] <zootm> ok, or the bot could do it
[01:14] <sorcerer> chowmeined: i mean ok .. with desklets .. coudlyou do that pop up think like .. what macs do ?
[01:14] <wiiman> yeah i need it to have a nice gui
[01:14] <zootm> cafuego: Why? Is it a kernel thing?
[01:14] <wiiman> it's for my mom
[01:14] <kitche> cafuego: think it's only for sata systems unless you put it in PATA mode
[01:14] <wiiman> i dont think she would dig xfce
[01:14] <cafuego> zootm: Yup, the IDE subsystem has been rewritten and not uses the scsi layer as well, I believe.
[01:14] <cafuego> kitche: No.
[01:14] <chowmeined> sorcerer: im not sure ive never done that
[01:14] <cafuego> s/not/now/
[01:14] <zootm> cafuego: Wow, neat. Thanks for the info on that.
[01:15] <wiiman> what about an older version?
[01:15] <thepumpkin1979> how could I know which ubuntu version I am running?
[01:15] <wiiman> like 4.10
[01:15] <arrow> wiiman, I put it on a friends computer and he loved it
[01:15] <bruenig> thepumpkin1979, lsb-release -a
[01:15] <Seveas> thepumpkin1979, lsb_release -a
[01:15] <xayon> Ok, thanks but... How will external devices be called now, I mean after this a smart media card inserted on a usb reader was sda1, now i supose it will be the lastest right?
[01:15] <ardchoille> thepumpkin1979: lsb_release -a
[01:15] <thepumpkin1979> thanks bruenig Seveas and ardchoille
[01:15] <cafuego> xayon: Yup, the system will start at sda and keep numbering up through sdX
[01:15] <thepumpkin1979> :)
[01:15] <wiiman> oh wait i was thinking it was fluxbox n/m
[01:15] <jrib> kevmaine, bruenig: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2328394
[01:15] <Seveas> xayon, probably -- that's why UUIDs are used for mounting harddrives and pmount for usb stuff. To avoid clashes when things get renamed
[01:15] <cafuego> bruenig: Mine was so fast, no-one even saw it.
[01:16] <wiiman> what version of xubuntu?
[01:16] <arrow> My mother's computer broke and I have a suspicion that it is the PSU, what do I need to know to change it with one from a different computer
[01:16] <xayon> cafuego Ok, thanks, so... lets modify my fstab...
[01:16] <wiiman> arrow
[01:16] <ratshell> hi
[01:16] <bayziders> What tool can I use to format a parition as hfs+ ?
[01:16] <cafuego> xayon: 7.04 will use UUIDs in fstab (6.10 does as well I think)
[01:16] <w0t> can someone tell me how to install sun java on ubuntu?
[01:16] <arrow> wiiman, yes?
[01:16] <kevmaine> jrib: that looks exactly like what is happening to me, I really like a better solution than turning off my firewall to do updates.
[01:17] <vox754> Seveas, how do we check the uuids, I forgot
[01:17] <wiiman> you have to make sure it's got the same style connecters
[01:17] <bruenig> w0t, the jre or the sdk and 5 or 6?
[01:17] <knapp> jrib, im still having trouble getting this to work. I can use "find -name *.jpg" to find the files, but how do I delete them?
[01:17] <w0t> jre, dunno number..
[01:17] <ratshell> w0t I have used Automatix to install sunjava in the past. It makes installing programs easy.
[01:17] <xayon> cafuego, I use 7.04 and i upgraded yesterday :P
[01:17] <wiiman> like p4 needs a p4 connector
[01:17] <cafuego> bayziders: See if there is a 'hformat' in `hfsplus'.
[01:17] <w0t> yay, cause i don't wanna do all that terminal stuff..
[01:17] <bruenig> w0t, to add all the extra official repositories and install sun-java5-jre, make sure synaptic, update-manager, or any other package managers are closed, open a terminal (applications>accessories>terminal) and copy and paste the following all at once:
[01:17] <bruenig> sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/universe$/universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[01:17] <arrow> wiiman, thats the only thing I have to know? thx
[01:17] <moDumass> hmmm, so "/dev/sdb5    /media/sdb5 ntfs-3g  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0"  doesnt give me write and neither does unmask=0000 what would be the next best option? is it my userID?
[01:17] <jrib> kevmaine: you will probably need to edit the rules firestarter sets, maybe to allow an exception for the canonical servers.  Check malone for a bug report, it may be more detailed
[01:17] <wiiman> unless the spu is really old it should be ok
[01:17] <bruenig> w0t, copy and paste is easier than automatix, and plus side, no chance of system breakage
[01:17] <wiiman> psu*
[01:18] <deadchip> why is the nVidia driver being downgraded?
[01:18] <w0t> hmm
[01:18] <arrow> wiiman, Alrighty, I'm taking the one out of this computer so I'll see you guys later
[01:18] <kevmaine> jrib: the problem is finding all of the machines in pool.  malone is the bug server?
[01:18] <jrib> knapp: with find you can use  -exec rm '{}' \;
[01:18] <w0t> bruenig: if you can tell me what to copy paste ^^
[01:18] <jrib> kevmaine: right, bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:18] <kitche> deadchip: it's a bug or something with the newer version in feisty
[01:19] <knapp> jrib that worked, thanks a lot!
[01:19] <deadchip> kitche: packaging bug or a problem with the 9755 driver an feisty?
[01:19] <deadchip> kitche: (sorry didn't get that 100%)
[01:19] <jrib> knapp: I was hoping I would convert you to zsh, but good to see find worked for you :)
[01:19] <MockY> I accidentally removed the windows in the bottom, so now when I minimize the a window it also disappears. Where do I add so I can see them again?
[01:19] <bayziders> cafuego I have hfsplus installed but I need to reformat the parition to hfs+
[01:20] <jrib> MockY: right click on a panel > add to panel, I think it is called the "window list"
[01:20] <knapp> jrib, I will check into zsh :)
[01:20] <MockY> ohh ok, couldnt fins anything related in there. I'll give it a shot
[01:20] <kitche> deadchip: finding out now actually :)
[01:20] <MockY> correct
[01:20] <MockY> awesome. Thanx
[01:20] <cafuego> bayziders: if hfsplus doesn't contain a formatting util, you may be out of luck, in which case you'll need to plug the HD into a mac.
[01:21] <bayziders> I dont have a mac =(
[01:21] <deadchip> kitche: ok pls copy me on what you learn :)
[01:21] <bayziders> I cant do it with like fdisk
[01:21] <sorcerer> chowmeined:  i have one a questions .. which i have asked b4 as well in the room and still havent figured it ourt .. uimm how i register in here so i can .. message people .. on  irc?
[01:21] <wiiman> is there a way to configure ubuntu so it doesn't use as much power for visual performance?
[01:21] <Hasrat_USA> hey cafuego!!
[01:21] <Hasrat_USA> it worked!!
[01:21] <wiiman> i know how to do it in xp never tried on linux
[01:22] <bayziders> cafuego how do I luanch hfsplus to see if it does?
[01:22] <wiiman> actually i think i did it with kde a ling time ago
[01:22] <zootm> wiiman: what exactly do you want to do?
[01:22] <wiiman> just make it real bare
[01:22] <wiiman> it's real slow
[01:22] <zootm> you might wanna just run Xfce?
[01:22] <xayon> wiiman install a ligh window manager like fluxbox or xfce (fluxbuntu, xubuntu)
[01:22] <wiiman> can i do that after i installed it with kds?
[01:22] <adu> YEY i fixed my system!!!
[01:23] <Hasrat_USA> this is a great improvement in my quest for a pdf converter. previously i have been searchin for a pdf converter for gnu/linux for more than 4 hours but to no avail!
[01:23] <cafuego> bayziders: 'dpkg -L hfspluf | grep bin'
[01:23] <wiiman> kde*
[01:23] <ardchoille> adu: W00T!
[01:23] <chowmeined> sorcerer: /msg NickServ Help
[01:23] <chowmeined> sorcerer: do that while not on a channel in case you miss
[01:23] <adu> i had to mount my fs from ubuntu installer and ybin the new yaboot.conf onto my fs from there
[01:23] <wiiman> apt-get install xfce?
[01:23] <zootm> wiiman: if you go to package manager and install "xubuntu-desktop", you'll be able to choose "xfce" from "sessions" when you log in
[01:23] <adu> i am so silly for playing with yaboot.conf
[01:23] <wiiman> oh
[01:23] <chowmeined> sorcerer: /msg NickServ REGISTER password
[01:24] <bayziders> It says its not installed but synpac said it was
[01:24] <bayziders> should I reinstall?
[01:24] <wiiman> do you know how to get the net server started?
[01:24] <zootm> wiiman: I think it's "xfce4", but if you install xubuntu-desktop you get all the setup for xubuntu as well
[01:24] <Hasrat_USA> cafuego do you think i would be able to manipulate the final jpegs' resolution, photo/image quality and width and height without opening them all one by one in Gimp, which would be seriously cumbersome?
[01:24] <chowmeined> sorcerer: then when you come back you need to identify.. /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password
[01:24] <wiiman> i started up with no ethernet cable in
[01:24] <adu> :)
[01:24] <adu> :)
[01:24] <chowmeined> sorcerer: i have to go now
[01:24] <zootm> i thought it was automatic?
[01:24] <dario> I'm using Feisty, after the latest update the wireless card doesn't work at all, this is a known bug?
[01:24] <wiiman> oh ok
[01:24] <sorcerer> chowmeined: it says its already been takes
[01:24] <Hasrat_USA> cafuego i would just have to read the man pages for convert or imagemagick, right?
[01:25] <cafuego> Hasrat_USA: You can set a few options for convert, yes.. but I don't know which ones, offhand.
[01:25] <sorcerer> chowmeined: og ok dude thanks a heap man i really appreciate it
[01:25] <chowmeined> sorcerer: ouch
[01:25] <chowmeined> sorcerer: well that means you have to find another nickname cause somebody already registered that one
[01:25] <Hasrat_USA> yeah cafuego i gotta read the man pages. thanks a lot man :)
[01:25] <cafuego> Hasrat_USA: You can probably pass '-resize WH' and/or resolution
[01:26] <MockY> so if I want to add the application list, what is that called? So that an application icon is displayed when tun
[01:26] <sorcerer> chowmeined:  i did this ... /msg nickserv register sorcerer12 forsure
[01:26] <chowmeined> sorcerer: do /nick sorcerer12 to change nick
[01:26] <chowmeined> sorcerer: then register it again
[01:26] <ardchoille> sorcerer: You're gonna want to change the password now
[01:26] <wiiman> no it's not working
[01:26] <snowpunk98> If I want to totally remove a package installed via apt-get so it was like nothing was there would it be apt-get --purge remove package or apt-get remove --purge package
[01:26] <w0t> ok can someone tell me how to install this? jre-6u1-linux-i586.bin
[01:26] <chowmeined> ardchoille: that wasnt a password.. he must've been joking
[01:27] <peepsalot> does anyone know what the "%u" is for in "firefox %u" command from the launcher icon?
[01:27] <ardchoille> chowmeined: Ah, ok
[01:27] <kjm> peepsalot - check man firefox
[01:27] <ardchoille> snowpunk98: Are you on Edgy?
[01:28] <snowpunk98> ardchoille, feisty
[01:28] <jrib> peepsalot: url
[01:28] <Dasnipa`> peepsalot, its for passing in a URL when you click a link that opens firefox... it uses that and %u passes the link that was clicked
[01:29] <peepsalot> hmm
[01:29] <xipietotec> I'm trying to use gnome-keyring-manager to unlock the default keyring and it's not accepting my password
[01:29] <VSpike> has anyone here installed and successfully used the edgy dspam package?
[01:29] <peepsalot> is there a way to make firefox allow more than one process to run?
[01:29] <zootm> peepsalot: what do you mean?
[01:30] <zootm> more than one instance of firefox?
[01:30] <peepsalot> yes
[01:30] <autopsy> Hello. Using Ubuntu 6.10 I have created a directory /root/chroot. In that directory I have expanded a few neccessary packages from Slackware 3.1 to get a chroot'able environment and a shell of course.. however, whenever I run anything such as "ls" or "mount" from within the chroot it produces a segmentation fault. Can anyone clue me in as to what might be going wrong here?
[01:30] <zootm> yes and no
[01:30] <Dasnipa`> multiple profiles
[01:30] <zootm> it's technically possible but i wouldn't recommend it most times
[01:30] <zootm> yeah, you'd at least need multiple profiles
[01:30] <Dasnipa`> it doesnt like multiple instances of the same profile... but if you create multiple profiles it would be okay
[01:31] <peepsalot> the problem is I want to have multiple sessions.  for example I think IE will do a separate session for each window
[01:31] <dimiter> hello. does anyone have an idea how I can change my Main menu (Start) icon?
[01:31] <peepsalot> someone told me i can use the command line option -no-remote with firefox
[01:31] <zootm> peepsalot: I didn't think IE did that, but what I tend to do is use another browser in parallel...
[01:31] <peepsalot> but i get this error: "Firefox is already running, but is not responding.  To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system."
[01:31] <zootm> hmm
[01:31] <FlyingSquirrel31> where is the profile file/folder  for rhythmbox?
[01:31] <zootm> no idea, sorry
[01:32] <funnyman3591> I need some help getting a wireless card working with ndiswrapper.  (Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03))
[01:32] <kjm> peepsalot - when firefox is running, you can ask for a new window....
[01:32] <jrib> FlyingSquirrel31: ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/  maybe?
[01:32] <peepsalot> kjm, yes, but that keeps the existing session, i want a new onw
[01:32] <funnyman3591> ndiswrapper looks to be detecting the hardware, but no wireless device has shown up.
[01:32] <peepsalot> one
 FlyingSquirrel31: ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/  maybe? <- correct
[01:32] <wipeout4wh> hey
[01:32] <kitche> funnyman3591: what does ndiswrapper -l say
[01:32] <FlyingSquirrel31> jrib: thanks
[01:33] <FlyingSquirrel31> I was looking for ~/rhythmbox
[01:33] <funnyman3591> kitche: bcmwl5          driver present, hardware present
[01:33] <FlyingSquirrel31> (with a dot)
[01:33] <jworkman> Can anyone tell me how to see what partitions I have on my system? I am trying to figure out how to view what is in my windows partition
[01:33] <drew> anyone know a way to change ttys0 resolution / font?
[01:33] <JacktheHomeless> Real quick question, I connected a camera to my computer, a dialog popped up, and i clicked import images and checked the box for do this everytime, now i cant find my images and the dialog wont pop up any more.
[01:33] <kjm> peepsalot - then you need multiple profiles like these guys stated.....I don't think there is a workaround.
[01:34] <jrib> !ntfs > jworkman    (jworkman, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:34] <drew> !ttys0
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttys0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <jworkman> jrib thanks
[01:34] <kitche> funnyman3591: ok see if you have a eth1
[01:34] <peepsalot> multiple profiles?  like multiple linux users?
[01:34] <funnyman3591> kitche: Nope.  eth0 (wired), sit0, lo.
[01:35] <kitche> funnyman3591: that's what ifconfig -a tells you
[01:35] <JacktheHomeless> Real quick question, I connected a camera to my computer, a dialog popped up, and i clicked import images and checked the box for do this everytime, now i cant find my images and the dialog wont pop up any more.
[01:35] <dario> I'm using Feisty, after the latest update the wireless card doesn't work at all, this is a known bug?
[01:35] <funnyman3591> kitche: Well, I was looking at iwconfig, but same set of three.
[01:35] <billboforealdoe> I need help getting sound on my computer. its a kernel problem because when acpi is off it works. I need alternate options
[01:35] <wipeout4wh> jack thats not a question
[01:35] <chowmeined> There is a bug in evince
[01:35] <chowmeined> Documents that just recently worked.. dont work anymore with "Invalid MIME type"
[01:36] <kitche> funnyman3591: ok hmm your sure your doing ifconfig -a right? and not just ifconfig just want to make sure
[01:36] <peepsalot> kjm, zootm, how would i go about having multiple firefox profiles?
[01:36] <chowmeined> Ill goo look it up on launchpad later
[01:36] <funnyman3591> kitche: Yup.
[01:36] <JacktheHomeless> wipeout4wh: yes it is, i dont know where the images automatically save to, and how do i get that dialog back
[01:36] <Cosmo_> the NVIDIA x server doesn't have all the settings it had before and it's not recognizing that I have a second monitor connected. how do I fix this?
[01:36] <kitche> funnyman3591: ok try this sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and see what it spits out
[01:36] <AVN`> i need help with amarok, can anybody tell me if their configuration menu look like http://rokymotion.pwsp.net/promowiki/images/5/5c/Config_collection.png
[01:36] <orbin> drew: you can set the vga mode i think.
[01:36] <zootm> peepsalot: I can't remember, I think you might need to start firefox with --profile-manager or something?
[01:36] <zootm> hold on
[01:36] <funnyman3591> kitche: No output, no change in ifconfig -a.
[01:36] <orbin> drew: via grub
[01:37] <VSpike> Hmm.. no-one.  Maybe it really is just broken then
[01:37] <MockY> How do I add the area with running programs, such as NetworkManager and Gnome. I mean automatically adds there when launched, just like thos applications do
[01:37] <bluefox> ok, for some reason i can not get gnome to show the correct video display options, the ones listed in xorg.conf and it's stuck on 640x480 resolution
[01:37] <kitche> odd but do you have a network card or just a wireless to make sure
[01:37] <wipeout4wh> today my printer just started printing for no reason
[01:37] <bruenig> MockY, the task list?
[01:37] <Borg^Queen> hi how do I update adept?
[01:37] <MockY> I mean Gaim...
[01:37] <zootm> aha!
[01:37] <kitche> wipeout4wh: in funny characters?
[01:37] <bruenig> MockY, oh add the notification applet
[01:37] <orbin> MockY: add the notification area applet to the panel
[01:37] <kitche> wipeout4wh: or anything else that is odd
[01:37] <MockY> well, I added the Task List, but nothing is added to it when I launch Gaim
[01:38] <billboforealdoe> I need help getting sound on my computer. its a kernel problem because when acpi is off it works. I need alternate options
[01:38] <MockY> Notification Area I mean
[01:38] <funnyman3591> kitche: Huh?  I'm wired up via eth0 (and IRCing over that).  The wireless works under Windows.  There's a hardware switch, but it appears to be on, based on the LED.
[01:38] <JacktheHomeless> Real quick question, I connected a camera to my computer, a dialog popped up, and i clicked import images and checked the box for do this everytime. Where does it put the images by default and how do i get that dialog back?
[01:39] <MockY> When I add the Notification Area, it doesn't get populated
[01:39] <Borg^Queen> JacktheHomeless: usually in your home dir
[01:39] <zootm> peepsalot: still there?
[01:39] <bruenig> MockY, you have to repopulate it
[01:39] <MockY> even though there already shouold be stuff in it
[01:39] <kitche> funnyman3591: well I was asking that just in case you were on another machine
[01:39] <bruenig> MockY, close and then reopen stuff
[01:39] <MockY> well, so I started Gaim again, but it didn't get added
[01:39] <zootm> peepsalot: run "firefox -CreateProfile newprofile"
[01:39] <MockY> I'll try again
[01:39] <kitche> funnyman3591: well if modprobe didn't output anything then it should be working but see if dmesg can see ndiswrapper
[01:39] <jtt> htdig: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21ubuntu1) but 1:4.1.1-13ubuntu5 is to be installed
[01:39] <zootm> peepsalot: followed by "firefox -a newprofile"
[01:39] <wipeout4wh> kitche: i stopped it before it printed anything
[01:39] <JacktheHomeless> Borg^Queen: looked there, and no new images are there. Could you tell me how to get the dialog back up there so I can just import them manually?
[01:39] <jtt> the question is where would i find  1:4.1.1-21ubuntu1
[01:39] <funnyman3591> kitche: Aha...
[01:40] <MockY> same thing. It get populated on the upper bar, but not added on the bottom one
[01:40] <zootm> peepsalot: from then on you can use "firefox -a newprofile" to launch your second profile
[01:40] <Borg^Queen> JacktheHomeless: mount the camera and copy and paste to where you want it
[01:40] <kitche> wipeout4wh: is this a networked printer?
[01:40] <bruenig> MockY, you want two notification areas?
[01:40] <funnyman3591> kitche: dmesg gives three error messages from ndiswrapper.
[01:40] <wipeout4wh> kitche: no
[01:40] <JacktheHomeless> Borg^Queen: ok, how do i mount it?
[01:40] <MockY> no, I will remove the top one once it works on the bottom one
[01:40] <funnyman3591> kitche: Windows driver is not 32-bit; bad magic: 020B
[01:40] <peepsalot> yeah i'm still here zootm.  thanks i will try these things, on the phone atm.
[01:40] <zootm> peepsalot: I just did that myself and it worked
[01:40] <bluefox> anyone know how to fix a broken resolution in gnome?
[01:40] <funnyman3591> kitche: couldn't prepare driver 'bcmwl5'
[01:41] <Borg^Queen> JacktheHomeless: go to media:/ in konqueror
[01:41] <kitche> wipeout4wh: ok well that throws me off since networked printers that just are hooked up to jetdirects and such are being targeted a lot more
[01:41] <AVN`> Anyone here have Amarok? i need you to test something
[01:41] <bruenig> MockY, although I think they should be able to simultaneously work, you may try removing the one you are going to remove later and then repopulate
[01:41] <funnyman3591> kitche: and loadndiswrapper failed (65280); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[01:41] <Borg^Queen> avn yes
[01:41] <kitche> funnyman3591: guess you need to install 32bit driver
[01:41] <kitche> funnyman3591: think ndiswrapper doesn't work on x86_64
[01:41] <JacktheHomeless> Borg^Queen: there
[01:41] <MockY> hmm ok, I'll try that
[01:41] <Borg^Queen> ok click on it
[01:41] <orbin> !fixres > bluefox
[01:41] <zootm> peepsalot: Actually I cocked that up, the second one is "-P" not "-a"
[01:41] <orbin> bluefox: (check pm from bot)
[01:41] <MockY> that kinda worked
[01:41] <Borg^Queen> another konq session will come up
[01:42] <ceeg_> How long does it usually take for Canonical to get back you when requesting a trademark license?
[01:42] <MockY> some things went there but some are missing.
[01:42] <MockY> I'll try to reboot and see
[01:42] <AVN`> Borg^Queen does your amarok config menu look like this? http://rokymotion.pwsp.net/promowiki/images/5/5c/Config_collection.png
[01:42] <MockY> or restart gnome
[01:42] <JacktheHomeless> Borg^Queen: well im not using konq though, im using nautilus
[01:42] <funnyman3591> kitche: Should be a 32bit machine.  Can't swear for the driver.
[01:42] <Charlatan> hello?
[01:42] <funnyman3591> kitche: Pulled that from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=340689&highlight=bcm4306+ndiswrapper
[01:43] <wipeout4wh> kitche: on the screen it said sending document then it started to print
[01:43] <yujiro> bonsoir
[01:44] <AVN`> Borg^Queen does your amarok config menu look like this? http://rokymotion.pwsp.net/promowiki/images/5/5c/Config_collection.png
[01:44] <kofler> I have a dual-boot setup on ~30 clients. These machines can be booted into either Windows or Linux. I want them all to update Ubuntu at a specific time, but in case the computers are either off or not booted into Ubuntu, how would I get apt to smartly grab the packages?
[01:44] <kofler> Is there a program that does that already or must I write a script to hack it up?
[01:45] <kitche> kofler: umm setup a cronjob
[01:45] <bruenig> kofler, probably write a script and put it in anacron
[01:46] <MockY> Worked like charm
[01:46] <MockY> thank you so much
[01:46] <sjust1216> has anyone gotten a game port joystick to work in ubuntu
[01:47] <Borg^Queen> hi how do I update adept?
[01:47] <pppoe_dude> -ca
[01:47] <bruenig> Borg^Queen, close it, sudo apt-get update
[01:47] <nicoc> hello ppl
[01:48] <pppoe_dude> hi nick58b
[01:48] <nicoc> can anyone help me installing ubuntu on a mac intel?
[01:48] <pppoe_dude> hi nicoc
[01:48] <Andy32> I keep getting the SAME error and I burned another CD at a SLOWER speed and I still get the same errors....drivers/media/video/ov511/ov511.C.i2c write retries exhausted
[01:48] <nicoc> hi :D
[01:48] <Andy32> I been waiting for 4 hours for someone to help me and someone did but it didn't help me much :/
[01:49] <Flannel> Andy32: Did you verify the md5 of the iso?
[01:49] <Andy32> yes
[01:49] <Flannel> Andy32: wait, you get that error while burning?
[01:49] <Andy32> no
[01:49] <Andy32> I get that error while I tried to install ubuntu
[01:49] <kofler> bruenig: There isn't a program that already does this?
[01:49] <pieman> does anyone know....what is the command line equivelent of when i right click and choose safely remove on my usb disk icon?
[01:49] <kofler> bruenig: I'd imagine there are a lot of other sysadmins out there that don't like the idea of hacking up scripts on their machines.
[01:50] <Flannel> Andy32: hmm.  Very odd.  This is the Desktop CD?  Have you tried the Alternate?
[01:50] <Andy32> no
[01:50] <Flannel> Andy32: what speed did you burn that last CD?
[01:50] <bruenig> kofler, anacron is a program that does it
[01:50] <Andy32> 8x
[01:50] <ubuntuEdgy> try slower
[01:50] <Andy32> again?
[01:50] <Flannel> 4x is recommended
[01:50] <Andy32> mmkay
[01:50] <bruenig> kofler, hacking up a script? the script could be one line long, you don't even necessarily need a script, just put the command in anacron
[01:50] <Andy32> thanks Flannel
[01:50] <Flannel> but, the Alt CD should work regardless
[01:51] <payan> Does any one know of a program to generate first and follows from a production set?... I need  to finish a parser
[01:51] <ubuntuEdgy> i need to be able to turn my computer off with out getting this "halt: Need to be root"
[01:51] <ubuntuEdgy> what do i do?
[01:51] <kofler> bruenig: Well, I want all the machines up-to-date. Windows does this already, so why can't Linux.
[01:52] <funnyman3591> Hmm, does anybody know where I can find the drivers that Windows is using in its filesystem?  Since I know that one works...
[01:52] <bruenig> kofler, it does, it is called the update-manager
[01:53] <orbin> pieman: type in mount in a terminal and you should probably see something like /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk
[01:53] <orbin> pieman: then you can do umount <device>
[01:53] <pieman> orbin, excellent, thanks.
[01:53] <swhalen> Hello, im having issues with IVTV
[01:54] <kofler> bruenig: Do you understand what I'm trying to do? Am I being clear? I need all the clients to be all equally updated. If thsi is to be automated, I can't be running a GUI without a *severe* hack.
[01:54] <kofler> this*
[01:54] <pieman> orbin, that just like flushes the buffers and stuff then yeah?
[01:54] <ubuntuEdgy> kofler: sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:55] <bruenig> kofler, if adding an entry to cron is a severe hack for you, perhaps you ought to resign and save your employer from the incompetence he employs
[01:55] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help?
[01:55] <orbin> pieman: not sure of the buffer flushing, but it will unmount the device so it won't be read or written to, which is essentially what eject does afaik.
[01:55] <JacktheHomeless> Real quick question, I connected a camera to my computer, a dialog popped up, and i clicked import images and checked the box for do this everytime, now i cant find my images and the dialog wont pop up any more.
[01:55] <chytraeus> in ubuntu how do you make the startup verbose?
[01:55] <JacktheHomeless> How do i get that dialog to pop up again
[01:56] <bruenig> chytraeus, sudo sed -e 's/splash//g' -e 's/quiet//g' -i /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:56] <kofler> bruenig: It's not merely a matter of adding a cron line. You don't get it. I need to update all the machines with all the same packages. I want a homogenous environment at all times.
[01:56] <kofler> bruenig: Also, please reserve the flames for /dev/null
[01:56] <JacktheHomeless> Real quick question, I connected a camera to my computer, a dialog popped up, and i clicked import images and checked the box for do this everytime, now i cant find my images and the dialog wont pop up any more. How do i get that dialog box back?
[01:56] <dc> chytraeus: i know its an option in grub...
[01:56] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help?
[01:56] <kofler> ubuntuEdgy: That isn't enough. I need all the machines updated the same way. This is to ensure that all the machines are automatically updated with the same packages.
[01:56] <bruenig> kofler, so long as they have the same repositories, simply cronning up apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade will do
[01:56] <pieman> ordin, so if i was writing to it at the time, and i run unmount, would it happen straight away or like wait until the data was written...?
[01:56] <orbin> JacktheHomeless: don't repeat too often. give some time for people to answer
[01:57] <orbin> JacktheHomeless: sys > prefs > removable
[01:57] <Andy32> umm
[01:57] <kofler> bruenig: No, if the machine isn't booted into Linux when the cron is supposed to run, the machine won't get updated properly.
[01:57] <Andy32> For InfraARecorder do I press any check marks?
[01:57] <JacktheHomeless> orbin: you rock, and im not trying to repeat to often, im just a little frustrated is all. I apologize
[01:57] <kofler> bruenig: Unless you're proposing * * * * * updating, which is ridiculous.
[01:57] <bruenig> kofler, hence anacron, scrolls up for the 5 times already mentioned
[01:57] <Andy32> I see 3 check marks am I suppose to uncheck those?
[01:57] <orbin> JacktheHomeless: no worries.
[01:57] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees.  can anyone help?
[01:57] <kofler> bruenig: How does anacron help? Cron in general doesn't help.
[01:58] <bruenig> kofler, "man anacron"
[01:58] <Andy32> Buffer underrun protection Pad Data track Fixate the disc after writing
[01:58] <Andy32> do i uncheck those for InfraRecorder while burning ubuntu.iso?
[01:58] <orbin> pieman: type in: man umount for the manual page
[01:58] <orbin> pieman: you can't unmount a busy device.
[01:58] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees. ive tried xrandr commands, they all give errors.  any ideas?
[01:59] <JacktheHomeless> orbin: the dialog is still not coming up? is there a certain program that has to be run or something?
[01:59] <sayers> Why is sound juicer so slow
[01:59] <sayers> it rips really slow :O
[01:59] <pieman> orbin, cool. thanks for your help.
[01:59] <Andy32> I see 3 check marks am I suppose to uncheck those?
[01:59] <Andy32> for InfraRecorder
[01:59] <dc> sayers: same for me man
[01:59] <orbin> JacktheHomeless: have you tried running that command directly through alt+f2?
[01:59] <orbin> pieman: yw
[02:00] <JacktheHomeless> orbin:  i have no clue, im a noob
[02:00] <sayers> dc: I have a 48x speed writer, so I guess it's a safety thing I dont know
[02:00] <LordLimecat> im habing an issue....i just compiled my own kernel and on reboot, i had to change my driver back to nv, but more seriously, irc and firefox had no network connectivity.  Ping remained working though
[02:00] <crazy_penguin> 'night all!
[02:00] <orbin> JacktheHomeless: type alt+f2, and the run dialog should come up, then put in the command listed: gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h
[02:00] <Borg^Queen> Hello how do I update adept?
[02:00] <dc> sayers: ww0rd, i dont think so i think it just cant talk to the drive fast enough
[02:01] <dc> Borg^Queen: go to terminal
[02:01] <darko> how can i set the cpu frequency table? I'm on a pentium m and the cpu frequency table is apparantly incorrect :-[
[02:01] <Borg^Queen> dc thank you
[02:01] <dc> Borg^Queen: type "sudo apt-get update" without the quotes
[02:01] <dc> Borg^Queen: no problem
[02:01] <Borg^Queen> oh it a apt!
[02:01] <Borg^Queen> thank god
[02:01] <sayers> I love how stable Ubuntu is
[02:01] <JacktheHomeless> orbin: well what happened was the dialog popped up and i clicked do this everytime, and now the dialog doesnt pop up. ill give it a shot in alt+f2
[02:01] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees. ive tried xrandr commands, they all give errors.  any ideas?
[02:01] <LordLimecat> any help would be appreciated :(
[02:01] <Borg^Queen> dc:  thanks that's all I needed to know
[02:01] <chytraeus> bruenig thanks
[02:01] <dc> Borg^Queen: no problem.  pay it forward
[02:02] <moDumass> hmmm, did a search for ntfs-config in synapsis and came up blank, am i missing somethings here?
[02:02] <orbin> JacktheHomeless: ah, so it's doing the action straightaway when you want to be asked everytime?
[02:02] <JacktheHomeless> orbin:  exactly
[02:02] <briank> has anyone used openvz here?
[02:02] <JacktheHomeless> orbin:  i cant even figure out where its importing the images to or how to change that
[02:03] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees. ive tried xrandr commands, they all give errors.  any ideas?
[02:03] <dc> moDumass: do you h ave automatix?
[02:03] <bruenig> !automatix | dc
[02:03] <ubotu> dc: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:03] <dc> bruenig: my bad
[02:03] <Borg^Queen> dc:  pay it forward is a promised I already made, conisder it done
[02:04] <dc> Borg^Queen: :)
[02:04] <LordLimecat> test
[02:04] <LordLimeca1> test
[02:04] <dc> !worksforme
[02:04] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:04] <pinchmesh> test failed
[02:04] <pinchmesh> hehe
[02:04] <wiiman> so does ubuntu auto detect wireless cards?
[02:04] <LordLimeca1> test worked, somehow my irc name is working in both my console and in gaim
[02:04] <Borg^Queen> dc thanks, good night
[02:05] <JacktheHomeless> orbin:  any idea how to reset the image importer thing to defaults. im using ubuntu edgy
[02:05] <dc> wiiman: pretty close to it - whats the problem?
[02:05] <dc> LordLimeca1: is there a way to interface irc and gaim?
[02:05] <wiiman> the internet wont work and i think i have a bad ethernet card so i slapped a wifi on ein there
[02:05] <Talaman> i go into network lists and i have no networks...what up with that?
[02:06] <Talaman> wrong room
[02:06] <ardchoille> LordLimeca1: You are in here twice, that's why it's working in here and gaim. gai m is porbably seeing LordLimecat  instead of LordLimeca1
[02:06] <Talaman> sorry
[02:06] <LordLimeca1> dc: ...what do you mean?  im logged in using irssi in here in console 5, and also in gaim
[02:06] <dc> wiiman: try to amek sure it is enabled
[02:06] <LordLimeca1> gaim works with IRC, yes
[02:06] <moDumass> hmm, if I have automatrix but would liike to uninstall it now that i hear it causes probs, how would i go about doing thsi?
[02:06] <wiiman> yeah
[02:06] <dc> LordLimeca1: how do u do gaim in console?
[02:06] <wiiman> i booted a dsl live cd and net didn't work and the lights are not working on the back
[02:06] <dc> wiiman: ok so all you need to do is connect to a wifi network
[02:06] <bruenig> LordLimeca1, you can open two instances of any irc client, and be in the same room under different nicknames
[02:06] <orbin> JacktheHomeless: i've never hooked up a camera.
[02:06] <dc> wiiman: look for a program called wifi-radar
[02:06] <moDumass> ;
[02:06] <wiiman> ok
[02:07] <wiiman> i have wifi in my apt
[02:07] <LordLimeca1> im in under the SAME name
[02:07] <dc> wiiman: its kinda buggy and slow (at least on my computer)
[02:07] <LordLimeca1> i think
[02:07] <wiiman> and clear wire
[02:07] <LordLimecat> this is me @ console
[02:07] <JacktheHomeless> orbin:  hmm, i just cant get it to mount or anything now
[02:07] <ardchoille> LordLimecat: I don't think so ;)
[02:07] <dc> wiiman: so sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[02:07] <LordLimeca1> this is me @ gui
[02:07] <orbin> JacktheHomeless: but ... when i run gnome-volume-manager-gthumb, it asks me where to save the flies
[02:07] <wiiman> i dont have the internet on that computer
[02:07] <ardchoille> LordLimeca1: Notice the last character of those two nicks?
[02:07] <zootm> LordLimecat: I think you're not seeing the difference between the letter "t" and the number one
[02:07] <dc> wiiman: ahh good call
[02:07] <bruenig> test
[02:07] <bruenig_> test
[02:07] <LordLimeca1> ah :(
[02:07] <dc> wiiman: so type in the ssid inside the config options
[02:07] <JacktheHomeless> orbin:  i ran it and nothing pops up, maybe i should try restarting or something
[02:07] <wiiman> oh!
[02:07] <LordLimeca1> dammit, not automagic as i thought
[02:08] <ardchoille> lol
[02:08] <orbin> JacktheHomeless: try just the command, without the %h
[02:08] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees. ive tried xrandr commands, they all give errors.  any ideas?
[02:08] <wiiman> i can apt get it with q-emu running debian on xp
[02:08] <Linoleum> hi. I would like to know : once in the busybox , whas should I do to say to my system to boot on the root partition?
[02:08] <JacktheHomeless> orbin:  without the %h ok
[02:08] <wiiman> hmm
[02:09] <qsheets> how do you change the /var/www/ folder's permissions when not logged in as root
[02:09] <qsheets> ????
[02:09] <JacktheHomeless> orbin: ahhh got it to work man, turns out i didnt have gthumb installed for whatever reason
[02:09] <bruenig> qsheets, you can use sudo to execute commands as root
[02:09] <ardchoille> !sudo | qsheets
[02:09] <ubotu> qsheets: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:09] <wiiman> umm
[02:09] <dc> wiiman: whats wrong?
[02:09] <wiiman> it's not finding eighter card
[02:09] <wiiman> network information...
[02:10] <wiiman> interface is blank
[02:10] <arooni> how can i find *all* files on my system that end with .flv
[02:10] <dc> wiiman: system>administration>networking ?
[02:10] <orbin> JacktheHomeless: so it's all good?
[02:10] <raynchk> hi, anyone here have info on using verizon evdo wireless cards?
[02:10] <LordLimeca1> Im having an issue after kernel compile and install....on reboot with new kernel (2.6.20.7), i have no networking through IRC (irssi) or web browser (firefox) though i remain able to ping router, local computers, and google
[02:10] <JacktheHomeless> orbin:  all good... dont know how gthumb got uninstalled but yeah, all good
[02:10] <bruenig> arooni, sudo find / -iname '*.flv'
[02:11] <JacktheHomeless> orbin:  you rock
[02:11] <orbin> JacktheHomeless: no worries. :D
[02:11] <arooni> bruenig do i need to build the index first or something
[02:12] <qsheets> what's the command for file/folder permissions???
[02:12] <ardchoille> arooni: Not with find
[02:12] <bruenig> arooni, no
[02:12] <bruenig> qsheets, chmod
[02:12] <qsheets> thx
[02:12] <arooni> is there a faster way to search?
[02:12] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees. ive tried xrandr commands, they all give errors.  any ideas?
[02:12] <arooni> if i index first?  and if so, how can i index?
[02:12] <bruenig> arooni, not whole system no
[02:12] <Kordite> I'm an Ubuntu n00b with a wireless issue: v6.06, I set up everything and am still disconnected. Go to another location and try to change the settings for that location and am still not connected and the settings seem to revert. Any secrets?
[02:13] <arooni> oh ok
[02:13] <pinchmesh> arooni, try "locate"
[02:13] <snowpunk98> after setting up mysql do I want to do do I also want to do "We want MySQL to listen on all interfaces, not just localhost, therefore we edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf and comment out the line bind-address = 127.0.0.1:" like this guide says
[02:13] <arooni> pinchmesh: do i have to build the index first
[02:13] <bruenig> arooni, and it doesn't take all that long, maybe 15 sec at most
[02:13] <pinchmesh> depends on the nix you use
[02:13] <`davo> anyone familiar with yukkake?
[02:13] <moDumass> grrr, i have read access and the hdd shows up on my desktop but no love with the write access
[02:13] <dc> Kordite: system>administration>networking - is the wifi enabled?
[02:13] <moDumass> any ideas
[02:13] <arooni> ind: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc/6594: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[02:13] <pinchmesh> with the bsd's , you do, but most linux, no
[02:13] <Linuxnewbie756> is there an addressbook program that will allow me to automatically delete duplicate entries?
[02:13] <soduko> how to find the WORKGROUP name on winxp laptop for SAMBA ?
[02:13] <arooni> what should i do?
[02:13] <raynchk> anyone know about evdo wireless pci cards?
[02:14] <LordLimeca1> soduko:  rightclick my computer
[02:14] <arooni> bruenig i know i have two files that end with .flv on the system... find didnt get either
[02:14] <pinchmesh> just try it
[02:14] <pinchmesh> "locate bash"
[02:14] <bruenig> arooni, how do you know you have them...
[02:14] <LordLimeca1> soduko: go to properties, then network name.  Workgroup name is there
[02:14] <Linuxnewbie756> or, a database type program that will allow me to import the files from a tab seperated .txt file, and then delete duplicates?
[02:14] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees. ive tried xrandr commands, they all give errors.  any ideas?
[02:14] <Linoleum> does someone have any idea why I have a ALERT! does not exist at the boot , at the busybox ??
[02:14] <Kordite> Wireless is enabled. I show good connectivity. I can connect using the rj45
[02:15] <ardchoille> arooni: You can also do:  sudo updatedb && locate *.flv
[02:15] <arooni> bruenig cuz i can open them in kivio
[02:16] <Ademan> does ubuntu support ARM?
[02:16] <goose> when is feisty coming out X(   update-manager -c doesn't work for me yet :|
[02:16] <soduko> LordLimeca1, there is computer name Tab but there is not network tab
[02:16] <bruenig> goose, gksudo update-manager -c
[02:16] <Kordite> I thought it may have been WEP key issues and looking online Ifound something that said the hex must have a hyphen every 4th character XXXX-XXXX-XX, I tried that to the same result but because of the settings not seeming to want to change I wonder if i'm actually making the change
[02:16] <bruenig> goose, but the 19th is the scheduled date
[02:16] <LordLimeca1> soduko: yes, computer name :)
[02:16] <LordLimeca1> my bad, not on XP ATM, it died
[02:16] <goose> bruenig another week? :(
[02:17] <Flannel> goose: -c is only needed when upgrading from LTS releases.  -d is for development, so if you, say, wanted the current feisty
[02:17] <qatsi> what is the name of the nvidia driver?
[02:17] <soduko> LordLimeca1: there is no WORKGROUP name in that. it has ful computername and domain.
[02:17] <goose> flannel: LTS ?
[02:17] <Ademan> goose: update-manager -c should work regardless of whether it's been released or not, have you changed your /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update?
[02:17] <Flannel> goose: Dapper is an LTS.  Dapper won't nag you about edgy being out without the -c
[02:17] <Ademan> goose: Dapper (Long Term Support)
[02:17] <Flannel> Ademan, bruenig, -d not -c
[02:17] <bruenig> Ademan, won't -c fail because it is a development
[02:17] <moDumass> is there a walkthrough on how to turn my NTFS write access on, it was on, but somewhere during some tweek i guess it turned off - any love wouold be much appreciated
[02:18] <sgtmattbaker> are there any *nix utilities that are similar in nature to chkdsk that I can check Windows partition with?? I think chkdsk is confused and is giving me false-positives
[02:18] <Ademan> anywho, does ubuntu support ARM processors?
[02:18] <Flannel> Ademan: You shouldn't change your sources.list, update-manager does that.
[02:18] <goose> Ademan: i didn't change my sources.list. doesn't update-manager do it automatically?
[02:18] <Ademan> goose: apparently so
[02:18] <Ademan> Flannel: wow i didn't know that :-/
[02:18] <goose> Flannel: i did gksudo update-manager -c  but it jsut times out
[02:18] <Flannel> Ademan: no ARM
[02:19] <Flannel> goose: -d not -c
[02:19] <goose> Flannel: trying -d
[02:19] <word> Errmm...I get this error - "BOGUS LENGTH in write keyboard desc, expected 5840, got 5844" and then x crashes...anyone know what could be wrong?
[02:20] <Ademan> Flannel: MIPS then?
[02:20] <wiiman> hey whats the alternate install cd for xubuntu?
[02:21] <Kordite> dc: I have also tried both DHCP and static IP.
[02:21] <wiiman> it says i only need 64 megs of ram
[02:21] <soduko> LordLimeca1:  and if the work laptop has a fullname  like say lp1234.ubuntu.com  and the domain name ubuntu.com , how do i find the workgroup name from that?
[02:21] <Flannel> Ademan: no.  i386, AMD64, SPARC, and PPC
[02:21] <MrDrake> Has anyone heard anything new about Fluxbuntu??
[02:21] <goose> Flannel: i get this error. warning: could not initiate dbus
[02:21] <wiiman> any ideas?
[02:21] <Ademan> Flannel: ouch... alright, well thanks.
[02:21] <Flannel> wiiman: alternate CD is a non-liveCD installer.  It's *just* an installer, with additional install options, and a repository on the disk as well
[02:22] <wiiman> ok
[02:22] <LordLimeca1> soduko: sorry, im back
[02:23] <goose> hmm that's weird ... it doesn't show the new version available sign anymore when i do "Check updates"
[02:23] <LordLimeca1> it shows a domain name? NOT a workgroup name?
[02:23] <LordLimeca1> soduko: are you in a corporate environment?
[02:23] <goose> could not send the dbus Inhibit signal: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[02:23] <soduko> LordLimeca1:  yes this is a work laptop that i want to share with my home linux machine
[02:23] <LordLimeca1> ah
[02:24] <LordLimeca1> hmmm, id have to experiment with that
[02:24] <LordLimeca1> but the easiest way would be to simply connect to that laptops ip @ home
[02:24] <LordLimeca1> instead of trying to search within a workgroup
[02:24] <soduko> how do i set teh smb.conf for that?
[02:24] <soduko> im using swat
[02:25] <bart_> Anyone using SynCE on Feisty ?
[02:25] <Dasnipa`> bart_, i have it on edgy if that helps ya any
[02:26] <LordLimeca1> soduko:  i dont know :( i just use the built in ubuntu "connect to server"
[02:26] <bart_> Dasnipa`, I can't get usb-rndis-lite compiled on my Feisty , I got it to work on Edgy tho
[02:26] <LordLimeca1> windows power user, ubuntu-newbie :(
[02:26] <sgtmattbaker> off-topic but is there anything inside a keyboard that would be harmful to touch?
[02:26] <soduko> :) thank you very much for the help so far.
[02:26] <Dasnipa`> bart_, hmm not sure
[02:27] <bart_> Dasnipa`, np , i'll keep trying
[02:27] <Kamaria> How do you browse files with root permissions?
[02:27] <cables> Kamaria, run gksudo nautilus
[02:27] <dc> Kamaria: sudo nautilus
[02:27] <dc> cables: does it need to be gksudo?
[02:27] <Kamaria> Thanks
[02:27] <ardchoille> dc yes, all gui apps need gksudo for admin tasks
[02:27] <Dasnipa`> dc, it should for graphical apps
[02:28] <orbin> dc: for graphical apps it's recommended
[02:28] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees. ive tried xrandr commands, they all give errors.  any ideas?
[02:28] <cables> dc, gksudo is better. sudo can cause issues.
[02:28] <Linuxnewbie756> is there a program so that i can "shred" files? i remember something that placed an icon on your desktop that whatever you dragged to the icon, well, you know, "kaboom"
[02:28] <dc> ardchoille Dasnipa orbin cables thanks )
[02:28] <MrDrake> Flux anyone?
[02:28] <ardchoille> Linuxnewbie756: There's "wipe" but it's cli.
[02:28] <Linuxnewbie756> ardchoille: cli?
[02:28] <ardchoille> Command Line Interface
[02:29] <Linuxnewbie756> ardchoille: hmm, cli, i might try it, sudo apt-get install wipe?
[02:29] <bruenig> Linuxnewbie756, there is a program called "shred" too
[02:29] <ardchoille> !info wipe
[02:29] <Linuxnewbie756> bruenig: is it any good?
[02:29] <ubotu> wipe: Secure file deletion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.20-2 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB
[02:29] <bruenig> !info shred
[02:29] <ubotu> Package shred does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:29] <ardchoille> Linuxnewbie756: It's in universe
[02:29] <Kamaria> For some reason Ubuntu says my Windows partition is read-only
[02:30] <bruenig> Kamaria, if it is ntfs, then it is read only, unless you add ntfs-3g or some other driver
[02:30] <goose> ah apparently i was using python2.5 and it wants python2.4
[02:30] <Flannel> Kamaria: that's because it is.  Linux can't (changes in Feisty) write to NTFS by default
[02:30] <goose> weord...
[02:30] <LordLimeca1> Im having an issue after kernel compile and install....on reboot with new kernel (2.6.20.7), i have no networking through IRC (irssi) or web browser (firefox) though i remain able to ping router, local computers, and google.....any help would REALLY be appreciated
[02:30] <Kordite> sgtmattbaker: a mini-din has a 5v pin, which is the most running into a keyboard. Nothing dangerous there.
[02:30] <snowpunk98_> Can someone tell me how to change the root directory of apache
[02:31] <Kamaria> Ok, going to grab ntfs-3g
[02:31] <snowpunk98_> so when I hit my URL it goes to the right folder with my page
[02:31] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees. ive tried xrandr commands, they all give errors.  any ideas?
[02:31] <Flannel> !ntfs-3g | Kamaria
[02:31] <ubotu> Kamaria: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:31] <tbuss> I'm having an IP address issue, I set up a host name for my server, and it worked for a while. but now the ip address redirects to my router?
[02:31] <|thunder> hey all, whats a linux app for burning dvd movies that are in video_ts/audio_ts file format ?
[02:32] <Andy32> I have the same error 3 times on 3 different Cds
[02:32] <Flannel> tbuss: sounds like your router has forgotten it's port forwards
[02:32] <bruenig> |thunder, do you have that directory structure setup?
[02:32] <Andy32> I think I need to order a CD :/
[02:32] <tom_> hola all
[02:32] <Andy32> help :/
[02:32] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees. ive tried xrandr commands, they all give errors.  any ideas?
[02:32] <|thunder> bruenig; yes. ready to go. i'd use clonedvd or something like that in windows.
[02:33] <tbuss> Flannel: I checked and 21 was open, but the issue isn;t with my ftp server it's with apache, or does it matter?
[02:33] <bruenig> |thunder, do dvdauthor -o directory -T
[02:33] <Flannel> tbuss: Apache would be port 80 for http, or 443 for https
[02:33] <bruenig> |thunder, and then do mkisofs -dvd-video -o name.iso directory
[02:33] <|thunder> dc; install kde-guidance and then run displaysetup.
[02:33] <Andy32> I got the error 17179658.82800 dricers/media/video/ov511/ov511.ic2 write retries exhausted <[02:34] <dc> |thunder: i dont have kde i have gnome
[02:34] <tbuss> Flannel: connecting fro inside the router works, trying to connect from the outside does not
[02:34] <|thunder> dc, dosntmatter
[02:34] <|thunder> dc, that I know of
[02:34] <dc> |thunder: thanks gimme one second
[02:34] <Flannel> tbuss: right.  That's a forwarding issue.  You need to forward port 80 and/or 443
[02:34] <Andy32> Anyone?
[02:34] <ardchoille> dc: You can run kde apps i gnome and vice-versa
[02:34] <Andy32> quick?
[02:34] <Andy32> go go go
[02:34] <Andy32> :/
[02:34] <Flannel> !enter | Andy32
[02:34] <ubotu> Andy32: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:35] <Andy32> 5 hours trying to install ubuntu with the same error
[02:35] <robbie_crash> if I copy everything in /var to a new partition and then mount that partition as /var everything should work fine right?
[02:35] <Andy32> acutally 3 days and 5 errors
[02:35] <bruenig> Andy32, did you md5sum the iso after you downloaded it
[02:35] <Andy32> yes
[02:35] <|thunder> bruenig; problem is, i dont have room anywhere to put a 4GB iso. the only place I have free space is on a fat32 drive which cant hold a 4GB file.
[02:35] <Flannel> Andy32: you copy/pasted that error?
[02:35] <tbuss> Flannel: When apache runs the test page and indicates port 80 is open, is this just by default, do I still need to open those ports mnually
[02:35] <mtbman> hi All, I have a powerbook G4 notebook, I've just installed ubuntu on it, and cant get screen res greater than 600x800 - refresh rates are not specified in the xorg.conf - anyone know what I should set them to ?
[02:35] <dc> ardchoille: wha?
[02:35] <Andy32> i wrote it down
[02:36] <bruenig> |thunder, well that will be a problem then
[02:36] <|thunder> bruenig; thats why I wanted to burn directly from the files
[02:36] <ardchoille> dc: You can run kde apps in gnome and gnome apps in kde without problems.
[02:36] <Flannel> tbuss: Test page?  internally?
[02:36] <|thunder> dc; ardchoille they both use xorg, which is what that is going to modify
[02:37] <bruenig> |thunder, you may try growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/<name>=/path/to/directory
[02:37] <dc> |thunder: bash: displaysetup: command not found
[02:38] <Andy32> so I am hopeless right now
[02:38] <|thunder> dc; displayconfig
[02:38] <voorhees86> the front painel(mic, headfone out) of my laptop dosent work, somebody can help me?
[02:38] <tbuss> Flannel: When I first installed apache2 and navigated to the IP for the site, it indicated apache it loads the default index.html. It alsi indicates that it is listening on port 80
[02:38] <tbuss> flannel: never mind that lost post, sorry
[02:39] <tbuss> Flannel: *last I can't type tonight
[02:39] <dc> |thunder: there is no option to rotate it
[02:40] <Flannel> Andy32: you have a USB camera attached?
[02:41] <Andy32> yea
[02:41] <Flannel> Andy32: try removing it for installation
[02:41] <Andy32> ok
[02:41] <Andy32> let me try again
[02:42] <|thunder> bruenig; you are correct. my bad. i could have sworn there was
[02:42] <`davo> anyone know how I can find out my horizsync and vertrefresh information so I can exit xorg.conf?
[02:43] <robbie_crash> if I copy everything in /var to a new partition and then mount that partition as /var everything should work fine right?
[02:44] <dc> |thunder: there is no option to rotate it
[02:44] <bruenig> robbie_crash, yeah
[02:44] <|thunder> dc; i see that, sorry. thought there was
[02:44] <dc> |thunder: not a problem, thanks anyway
[02:44] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees. ive tried xrandr commands, they all give errors.  any ideas?
[02:44] <bruenig> robbie_crash, copy everything underneath /var and then leave /var as an empty directory and have everything underneath /var mounted into /var if that makes sense
[02:45] <robbie_crash> hmmm, cause I did that, then restarted and I'm getting errors on load with my greeting application
[02:45] <bruenig> robbie_crash, you edited fstab?
[02:45] <robbie_crash> so copy var, then delete everything in there, then mount /dev/hdx to .var
[02:45] <robbie_crash> er, /var
[02:45] <robbie_crash> ?
[02:45] <bruenig> robbie_crash, no, you need to copy everything underneath /var, but leave /var as an empty directory
[02:46] <bruenig> robbie_crash, when you mount something, you mount it in an empty directory, so if there is no /var directory,and you try to mount hdx to /var, it will fail
[02:46] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees. ive tried xrandr commands, they all give errors.  any ideas?
[02:47] <robbie_crash> right, so I need to copy the original var on hda1 to hda2 and then delete the contents of the original var on hda1 and mount hda2?
[02:47] <Falstius> what is the best way to update from Dapper to Edgy from the console?  I only did a server install (I'll install xubuntu after the upgrade)
[02:47] <bruenig> robbie_crash, let say you have /var and underneath var you have dir1 dir2 dir3, you copy dir1 dir2 dir3, but you don't copy the parent /var
[02:47] <robbie_crash> right
[02:47] <Flannel> Falstius: first upgrade to current Dapper
[02:48] <robbie_crash> and do I need to delete the original dir1 dir2 dir3 and just have the copies?
[02:48] <Flannel> Falstius: then edit your sources.list, change dapper to edgy, then update your package cache, and dist-upgrade
[02:48] <bruenig> robbie_crash, yes, you need to have an empty /var in which to mount the dir1 dir2 and dir3 in
[02:48] <robbie_crash> thanks!
[02:48] <Eldorian> Hey, new user here wanting to just try Ubuntu out for the first time... I bought a copy of the cd through Amazon and when I try to load from the cd it gets to the end of the loading screen and then my screen spazzes out - could this be an issue with my video card or monitor and what can I do about it? Thanks
[02:48] <phoenix87ta> amarok doesn't seem to work properly on my system.  what other programs can receive mp3 streams?
[02:49] <Kamaria> Hey guys, how do you unmount a partition? I'm trying to unmount my NTFS partition so I can open it with NTFS-3g, but it tells me only root can do that. Yet when I open Nautilus with sudo, my partition's not there.
[02:49] <dc> i need to rotate the display on my laptop 180 degrees. ive tried xrandr commands, they all give errors.  any ideas?
[02:49] <bruenig> !mp3 | PHoeNiGoRe
[02:49] <Falstius> Flannel: then apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:49] <ubotu> PHoeNiGoRe: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:49] <Flannel> Falstius: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-d8c4cd1dd987e54723fef2760b37f9279487551f  except, ignore step two
[02:49] <bruenig> !repeat | dc
[02:49] <ubotu> dc: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:49] <xtknight> new samba guide here for whoever's interested: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ComprehensiveSambaGuide
[02:49] <jasmarc> Kamaria: sudo umount ?
[02:49] <Kamaria> Hmm.
[02:49] <Kamaria> That seems like it would work
[02:49] <dc> bruenig: im sorry man but there is no one who knows this anywhere
[02:50] <Flannel> xtknight: you should put that on help.ubuntu.com/community/ not wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:50] <xtknight> Flannel, ah?  what is the difference?
[02:50] <jrib> Eldorian: probably.  The cd should let you detect errors on the cd (should be an option in the first menu), have you tried that?
[02:51] <Eldorian> jrib: yes, there's no errors
[02:51] <Flannel> xtknight: help is for help stuff, wiki is for more community stuff (agendas, etc)
[02:51] <xtknight> Flannel, interesting, the other Samba guide is also on wiki , not that that means it's right
[02:51] <jrib> Eldorian: is downloading a .iso and burning a cd an issue?  I'd recommend just trying the Alternate CD
[02:51] <Flannel> xtknight: right.  Everythign used to be.  I guess some stuff got missed in the transfer.
[02:52] <TheSilentW> hello everyone, i can run mercury messenger, but theres no gui, anyone can explain me ?
[02:52] <Flannel> xtknight: also, you might want to ask the people in #ubuntu-doc what else you should do.  You might be able to move some of that to official documentation, or something.
[02:52] <Eldorian> Jrib: I downloaded and burned the ISO before I bought the copy on Amazon and had the same issue with the screen. That's why I went ahead and bought on Amazon because i thought maybe my burner was corrupting the copy, but doesn't seem to be the case
[02:52] <xtknight> Flannel, i dont seem to be able to create pages on 'help.ubuntu.com/community'
[02:53] <jrib> Eldorian: did you try the Alternate CD (text-based install)?
[02:53] <xtknight> Flannel, never mind i wasn't logged in.  i will try ubuntu-doc anyway thanks
[02:53] <Eldorian> jrib: no, I don't know what that is, I'll look it up
[02:53] <InnerFIRE> anyone get democracyplayer to stop crashing on startup yet?
[02:53] <jrib> Eldorian: releases.ubuntu.com
[02:53] <pimpnasty> anyone know where I can get a c++ compiler
[02:53] <xtknight> pimpnasty, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:53] <pimpnasty> tyvm
[02:54] <pimpnasty> im a linux noobie and loving it
[02:54] <jrib> pimpnasty: after xtknight's command you will have g++
[02:54] <Eldorian> jrib: so there's no way I can install text based through the live cd then?
[02:54] <phoenix87ta> bruenig, none of those site address the issue of streaming audio
[02:54] <jrib> Eldorian: no
[02:54] <pimpnasty> ty xknight and jrib
[02:54] <TheSilentW> hello everyone, i can run mercury messenger, but theres no gui, anyone can explain me ?
[02:55] <pwnzorz> !fglrx
[02:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:55] <bruenig> phoenix, use mozilla-mplayer for streaming
[02:55] <pimpnasty> I have a question where would it be installed
[02:55] <pimpnasty> I just typed it but dont know where to find it
[02:55] <phoenix87ta> bruenig, thx much
[02:56] <jrib> pimpnasty: are you familiar with using the Terminal?
[02:56] <tbuss_> If I installed apache and opened ports 80 and 443, assigned a host name to my public ip address, what else would prevent a user from connecting to my server
[02:56] <pimpnasty> yes
[02:56] <moDumass> hmm, all of a suydden i have 6 desktops?
[02:56] <pimpnasty> Im used to cmd commands but im Familiar
[02:57] <jrib> pimpnasty: go to the directory with file.cc (your c++ source code) and issue:  g++ -o file file.cc
[02:57] <Flannel> TheSilentW: Mercury Messenger isn't in ubuntu, you'll have go through whatever support mercury messenger has
[02:58] <Flannel> tbuss_: you need to forward those ports, not just open them
[02:58] <m4st3r> I'm looking for ubuntu package, motion's source.
[02:58] <moDumass> fixed] 
[02:58] <brandon_> hello all
[02:58] <Flannel> m4st3r: apt-get source motion
[02:59] <TheSilentW> flannel, well, as ubuntu is the system i am using, and is very common, some users here could help me
[02:59] <tbuss_> Flannel: I forwarded to the ip of the server
[02:59] <word> Errmm...I get this error - "BOGUS LENGTH in write keyboard desc, expected 5840, got 5844" and then x crashes...anyone know what could be wrong?
[02:59] <m4st3r> Flannel/thanks
[02:59] <brandon_> can anyone tell me how to reset the su password???
[02:59] <brandon_> please
[02:59] <Flannel> brandon_: reset it?
[02:59] <Toma-> TheSilentW: whats your need?
[02:59] <jrib> brandon_: have you ever set one?
[02:59] <Windirt1> !fglrx
[02:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:59] <brandon_> no i have not
[02:59] <TheSilentW> need help with mercury messenger
[02:59] <brandon_> i just loaded
[02:59] <Flannel> TheSilentW: it's extremely unlikely that anyone here would use that, since it's not in ubuntu.
[02:59] <jrib> !sudo > brandon_    (brandon_, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:59] <brandon_> and i type in su
[02:59] <pimpnasty> hmm
[02:59] <brandon_> and it will not take a password
[02:59] <pimpnasty> I really dont get it
[02:59] <Flannel> brandon_: You want to use sudo, not su
[03:00] <brandon_> ok here is my problem
[03:00] <brandon_> i put a cd in my computer and it will not mount
[03:00] <jrib> pimpnasty: which part?
[03:00] <brandon_> it comes up with a error saying it will not mount
[03:00] <pimpnasty> The part where I find it
[03:00] <pimpnasty> lol
[03:00] <brandon_> and it does that for any cd
[03:00] <TheSilentW> flannel, u sure? cause beryl doesnt come with ubuntu, still loads of ppl use it
[03:00] <jrib> !enter | brandon_
[03:00] <ubotu> brandon_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:00] <Toma-> TheSilentW: Install it from here? http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/edgy/index.html
[03:00] <Flannel> TheSilentW: right, and you can't get support for beryl here either.  #ubuntu-effects is the place for beryl support
[03:00] <jrib> pimpnasty: do you have a hello world program written in c++ somewhere that you have written?
[03:01] <TheSilentW> flannel, or maybe #beryl
[03:01] <wapityyy> lol i messed up with my Ubuntu.. i went into synaptic and deleted everything that was related to gcc ... result now i don even have synaptic or gnome-terminal... can anyone help me fix all that please =/
[03:01] <xenakis> !samba
[03:01] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:01] <Flannel> TheSilentW: #beryl is for generic beryl support, for ubuntu specific beryl support, -effects.
[03:01] <pwnzorz> !fglrx
[03:01] <pimpnasty> well i have a small virus I wrote from c# but I dont want to run it
[03:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:01] <TheSilentW> toma- do u use it ?
[03:01] <jrib> wapityyy: do you still have apt-get?
[03:01] <xtknight> xenakis, hey, would you mind testing a new samba guide by any chance?
[03:01] <TheSilentW> toma- i have it installed, and it runs, but i see no GUI
[03:01] <wapityyy> jrib: it said unknown command
[03:01] <pimpnasty> Could I just make one in txt real quick?
[03:01] <B_166-ER-X> Hi, i seem to have a problem, it looks like a Few song that i had for a while, have no more 'singing voice' only music, its weird. Anyone could help with this weird audio problem ?
[03:02] <brandon_> can anyone help me mount my cd or fix my computer so a cd will mount please. I put any cd in and it sais it cannot mount cd "name of cd"
[03:02] <jrib> wapityyy: how about dpkg?
[03:02] <pimpnasty> where would It be located
[03:02] <xenakis> xtknight: would it help me get a printer on a dapper machine recognized by a networked Win32 machine?
[03:02] <pimpnasty> I dont see it in apps>programming
[03:02] <tbuss_> good night everyone
[03:02] <wapityyy> jrib: well i closed my terminal and i cant open it back Failed to execute child process "gnome-terminal" (No such file or directory)
[03:02] <jrib> pimpnasty: see what?
[03:02] <xtknight> xenakis, hrmm nope only file so far.
[03:02] <Toma-> TheSilentW: its a tricky interface. it needs java to run. try running it from a command line and see if it runs. alternativly, aMSN has webcam+voice support and its pretty darn nice
[03:02] <pimpnasty> The C++ compile
[03:02] <pimpnasty> compiler
[03:02] <jrib> pimpnasty: it's a cli program
[03:02] <xenakis> xtknight: send me a url to the guide. Let me take a look.
[03:03] <pimpnasty> huh?
[03:03] <xtknight> xenakis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComprehensiveSambaGuide
[03:03] <bruenig> pimpnasty, it isn't gui, you just run it through command line with g++
[03:03] <TheSilentW> toma- i am using aMSN but i hate its visual interface. I am running mercury from console
[03:03] <pimpnasty> oh okay
[03:03] <pimpnasty> that sucks im used to dev
[03:03] <Toma-> TheSilentW: you might want to try the SVN version from that repo i pasted. its alot nicer
[03:04] <jrib> pimpnasty: are you looking for an IDE?
[03:04] <pimpnasty> Any compiler with a gui and text editor kinda like dev c++ or dev C#
[03:04] <bruenig> !info anjuta
[03:04] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[03:04] <TheSilentW> Toma-, i am trying to see where the actual links for the repos are, xD confusing website
[03:04] <wapityyy> lol i messed up with my Ubuntu.. i went into synaptic and deleted everything that was related to gcc ... result now i don even have synaptic or gnome-terminal... can anyone help me fix all that please =/
[03:04] <Toma-> TheSilentW: yeh :)
[03:05] <jrib> wapityyy: go to ctrl-alf-f1 and see if you have dpkg, then come back with ctrl-alt-f7
[03:05] <bruenig> wapityyy, alt+f2 and then run "gnome-terminal" if that fails, run "xterm" and then do "sudo apt-get install synaptic gnome-terminal"
[03:05] <pimpnasty> jrib check your person messages
[03:05] <bruenig> uh oh two different solutions, which will he do
[03:05] <pimpnasty> It just gets alittle flooded in here
[03:06] <pimpnasty> okay im looking for somthing simular to the dev C++ compiler / editor
[03:06] <Flannel> wapityyy: ctrl-alt-f1, do you still have apt-get?
[03:06] <jrib> bruenig: he said command wasn't found for apt-get before, so I'm not sure either will be of much use
[03:06] <wapityyy> Flannel: no
[03:06] <bruenig> oh I thought he just said no synaptic
[03:06] <Flannel> wapityyy: what about dpkg?
[03:06] <wapityyy> checking
[03:06] <jrib> pimpnasty: try anjuta as someone suggested
[03:06] <Flannel> wapityyy: wait, hmm.. with gcc, you removed libc6 probably, right?
[03:06] <wapityyy> yeah
[03:06] <wapityyy> all the lib i saw
[03:07] <wapityyy> and all the wtv lol
[03:07] <bayziders> What app should I use to burn a bootable iso
[03:07] <Flannel> wapityyy: with removing libc6, you removed everything that depends on libc6 as well
[03:07] <bruenig> bayziders, cd or dvd
[03:07] <xtknight> you're going to have to replace libc via a livecd
[03:07] <pimpnasty> I have on my desktop
[03:07] <bayziders> cd
[03:07] <wapityyy> Flannel: all that because i got an error compiling a cpp script
[03:07] <pimpnasty> I dont really know how to install it
[03:07] <Flannel> wapityyy: you're going to need to reinstall
[03:07] <pimpnasty> sh (program) -q right?
[03:07] <bruenig> bayziders, cdrecord dev=/dev/whatever nameofiso.iso
[03:07] <larson9999> i always replace the larger menu button that's the default with the smaller main menu button.  the problem is there is a delay the first time i try to click on it.  like it's loading something.  is there a way to fix that?
[03:07] <Flannel> !burning | bayziders
[03:07] <ubotu> bayziders: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:07] <jrib> pimpnasty: no, use synaptic or apt-get like you did before
[03:08] <jrib> !synaptic > pimpnasty    (pimpnasty, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:08] <wapityyy> Flannel: , jrib: i dont have dpkg
[03:08] <jrib> wapityyy: you should reinstall imo
[03:08] <brandon_> can you send personal messages in xchat?
[03:08] <pimpnasty> okay
[03:08] <bruenig> brandon_, /msg
[03:09] <Flannel> wapityyy: like I said before, you'll need to reinstall.  You've effectively removed your entire system
[03:09] <TheSilentW> how can i put a timeout for checking repositories?
[03:09] <SeveredHead> wapityyy, you're probably best off re-installing over your existing install.
[03:09] <wapityyy> omfg
[03:09] <wapityyy> im such a retard
[03:09] <pimpnasty> thanks I feel like a noob
[03:09] <wapityyy> oh wait i mispelled it
[03:09] <wapityyy> yeah i have dpkg
[03:09] <pimpnasty> once again owned by ubuntu
[03:09] <brandon_> if anyone can help a noob mount there cd rom could you please personal message me
[03:09] <wapityyy> Flannel: jrib i got dpkg :)
[03:09] <bruenig> !pm | brandon_
[03:09] <Flannel> wapityyy: Eh?  That's not possible if you've removed libc6
[03:09] <ubotu> brandon_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[03:09] <bruenig> brandon_, cdrom should auto mount
[03:10] <TheSilentW> hello, how can i put a timeout for checking repositories?
[03:10] <brandon_> it downt
[03:10] <wapityyy> Flannel: i did ctrl alt f2 and typed dpkg
[03:10] <wapityyy> and i had a syntax help
[03:10] <wapityyy> how to use it etc
[03:10] <bruenig> TheSilentW, does it not already have one?
[03:10] <TheSilentW> tooooooo big
[03:10] <TheSilentW> xD
[03:10] <Flannel> wapityyy: odd.  Ok, um.  You don't have apt-get though?
[03:10] <wapityyy> Flannel: nope
[03:11] <larson9999> linux rocks
[03:11] <SeveredHead> Too much stuff got removed when you took out glibc
[03:11] <SeveredHead> Err, libc
[03:11] <Flannel> SeveredHead: he can't have removed libc
[03:11] <Flannel> SeveredHead: if he did, he wouldn't have dpkg
[03:11] <SeveredHead> Oh.
[03:11] <TheSilentW> hello, how can i CHANGE the timeout for checking repositories?
[03:11] <SeveredHead> Right.
[03:11] <SeveredHead> Weird.
[03:11] <wapityyy> so what can i do with dpkg ?
[03:11] <brandon_> I put a cd rom into my computer and it comes up with this error "unable to mount the volume 'name of cd'" if anyone could give any help or advice i would greatly appriciate it
[03:11] <xtknight> even `uname` doesnt work without libc
[03:11] <xtknight> trust me i've done it :-D
[03:11] <moDumass> how do i check to see if i have ntfs-3g installed correctly?
[03:12] <Flannel> wapityyy: You can install packages.  But only local ones.  So you'll need to sneakernet a whole bunch of crap to that machine
[03:12] <xtknight> Flannel,  he's missing apt-get?
[03:12] <jrib> wapityyy: you can grab packages from packages.ubuntu.com and install them.  You goal is to install apt-get, you will need to resolve dependencies manually.  reinstall is a lot easier
[03:12] <|thunder> bruenig; thanks for your help earlier. 'growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cdrom -J /media/fat32/DVDs/A\ history\ Of\ Violence/' was the solution
[03:12] <bluman2> I want to remove gnome-screensaver,but get message that ubuntu-desktop will also be removed. Is there a way to just remove the gnome-screensaver application?
[03:12] <Flannel> xtknight: he mustve removed libgcc1
[03:12] <xtknight> it might be located here.  `sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/apt-get*`
[03:12] <bruenig> |thunder, I was close I guess
[03:12] <wapityyy> jrib: oh.. ok
[03:13] <|thunder> bruenig; yes sir
[03:13] <Mirthy> Anyone know anything about Generator Matrices (and/or finding codewords?)
[03:13] <xtknight> err i mean:  `sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/apt*`
[03:13] <wapityyy> xtknight: trying that now
[03:13] <Flannel> installing apt shouldn't be that bad, it's only got a handful of depends.  You might actually come out of this alright
[03:13] <xtknight> Flannel, libgcc1?  isnt that just for gcc?
[03:13] <nikitis> How do you add dvd playback capability?
[03:13] <pimpnasty> omg its hard to program window viruses with linux
[03:13] <Flannel> xtknight: apt requires it
[03:13] <jrib> !dvd > nikitis    (nikitis, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:13] <xtknight> ahh
[03:14] <Raubkopierer> Hello :)
[03:14] <xtknight> wapityyy,  in that case if you're lucky,  `sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libgcc*`
[03:15] <Flannel> wapityyy: is this edgy or dapper?
[03:15] <xtknight> if you still have wget just wget them from packages.ubuntu
[03:15] <wapityyy> xtknight:  sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/apt gives me no such file or dir
[03:15] <wapityyy> Flannel: ???
[03:15] <wapityyy> oh
[03:15] <wapityyy> feisty
[03:15] <xtknight> wapityyy, i386 or amd64?
[03:16] <wapityyy> amd64
[03:16] <xtknight> wapityyy, "wget -c http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/packages/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/libgcc1_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb"
[03:16] <TheSilentW> Toma-, whats the name the of the mercury i should look for?
[03:16] <Flannel> wapityyy: you'll need apt libgcc1 libstdc++6 gcc-4.1-base  those four
[03:16] <wapityyy> Flannel: thx
[03:16] <Toma-> TheSilentW: not sure, havent used it in a while
[03:16] <Raubkopierer> I still have a problem with Ndiswrapper and the Netgear WG111T... I installed the Drivers but I still have no wlan0 oder any other wlan-device in ifconfig
[03:17] <js1> is there a way to run a command with sudo but with "less priviledge", I only want the application to have access to /dev/tty* and similar
[03:17] <sonnie> 3Com 940 can't be recognized after reboot
[03:17] <xtknight> js1, chmod /dev/tty to other permissions?
[03:17] <TheSilentW> toma-, u put the other side repos, and the synaptic now doesnt open ><
[03:17] <js1> would that work?
[03:18] <xtknight> js1, i dont know.  it might.  it's always possible it could break something so i'd google it first to see
[03:18] <wapityyy> Flannel: how do i open xterm again?
[03:18] <xtknight> alt+f2, xterm
[03:18] <Flannel> js1: sudo is fully configurable, but I believe it's only on the program level
[03:18] <Toma-> TheSilentW: run it in a terminal and see what errors you get?
[03:18] <wapityyy> Flannel: it froze i cant open it back lmao
[03:18] <sonnie> i can find it via "lspci", but don't know which module should be inserted to active that card.
[03:18] <Flannel> wapityyy: ctrl-alt-f1
[03:19] <LordLimeca1> is there a way for a user to send a request to a VNC viewer in listen mode?
[03:19] <Windirt1> where is the xorg.conf file located?
[03:19] <xtknight> sonnie, sk98lin for 3c940
[03:19] <js1> win: /etc/X11/....
[03:19] <xtknight> Windirt1, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:19] <sonnie> i have it, xtknight
[03:19] <dc> Windirt1: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:19] <Windirt1> its not there =/
[03:19] <TheSilentW> toma- check ur messages
[03:20] <xtknight> Windirt1, the path is case sensitive
[03:20] <Windirt1> oh
[03:20] <Windirt1> thx!
[03:20] <Raubkopierer> *blub*
[03:20] <Windirt1> w00t fixin ubuntu now!
[03:20] <js1> find /etc | grep xorg.conf
[03:20] <Toma-> TheSilentW: ive got private messages on ignore
[03:20] <TheSilentW> toma- haa  ok
[03:20] <Toma-> TheSilentW: pastebin
[03:21] <bayziders> I really need to format a parituition to hfs+ can some one help me?
[03:21] <dc> Does anyone have an error about some greeter applicaiton when they restart x using ctrl alt backspace?
[03:21] <Toma-> TheSilentW: i really cant help you, im going out to the country in about 10 mins and still need to pack :(
[03:21] <xtknight> bayziders, not sure that gparted supports creating HFS+?
[03:21] <xenakis> I'm trying to get a local printer on a dapper machine recognized by a networked win32 machine.
[03:21] <dc> how do i change my greeter app?
[03:21] <bayziders> only hfs
[03:21] <bayziders> not hfs+
[03:21] <xtknight> dc, greeter like gdm,kdm,xdm, etc?
[03:21] <rob_33> Okay, hi all
[03:21] <TheSilentW> toma- ok
[03:22] <TheSilentW> toma- cya mate
[03:22] <Pelo> xenakis,  is the network set up ?  can you see the ubuntu computer from the windows one ?
[03:22] <dc> xtknight: dont know, when i restart xterm it says that my greeter is fucked up or something
[03:22] <LordLimeca1> does anyone have any experience with VNC and ubuntu?>
[03:22] <rob_33> Who has norton on their laptop?
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> !ohymy | dc
[03:22] <Raubkopierer> could anyone help me please?
[03:22] <xtknight> dc, odd :\
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohymy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <dc> xtknight: yea
[03:22] <xenakis> Pelo: yes
[03:22] <bayziders> So does any one know how to format a disk as hfs+
[03:22] <dc> !ask Raubkopierer
[03:22] <dc> oops no !
[03:22] <Pelo> xenakis,  is the printer setup in the ubuntu machine ? is it set to share ?
[03:23] <sonnie> xtknight, module sk98lin does exist
[03:23] <xenakis> Pelo: yes yes
[03:23] <dc> Raubkopierer: what do u need help wiht
[03:23] <xenakis> Pelo: the Macs print to it fine.
[03:23] <rob_33> Okay, Who has norton system works on their windows partition of their computer?
[03:23] <Pelo> xenakis,  and the windows machines doesn'T see it ,   check the forum
[03:23] <wapityyy> xtknight:  "wget -c http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/packages/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/libgcc1_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb" failed, service not known.
[03:23] <bayziders> This sucks
[03:23] <xenakis> Pelo: wouldn't the windows machines need to use samba?
[03:23] <bayziders> To google I guess
[03:24] <Raubkopierer> Yes.. Ndiswrapper don't work... I installed my Drivers.. but there is no device in the ifconfig for the usb-stick..
[03:24] <IowaDave> xenakis: does the Windows machine have a driver for the printer?
[03:24] <rob_33> so im guessing no one has norton on windows??
[03:24] <xenakis> IowaDave: no...but I can't find the printer at all. How would a driver help?
[03:24] <Raubkopierer> @ dc
[03:24] <Pelo> xenakis,  I thought samba was just for the ubuntu machine ,   in anycase if you can see the ubuntu machine from the windows one , samba woudln'T be the issue,   I donT' think so anyway
[03:24] <dc> Raubkopierer: does the usb stick work anywhere else?
[03:24] <jrib> rob_33: try ##windows
[03:24] <wapityyy> ok well i destroied my ubuntu... anyone can tell me how to reinstall it... ?
[03:25] <rob_33> pelo?
[03:25] <Pelo> rob ?
[03:25] <xenakis> Pelo: samba is installed on the dapper machine...but I was thinking perhaps it isn't configured correctly to show the printer.
[03:25] <Flannel> wapityyy: just get another computer, and sneakernet those files
[03:25] <jpe> is there any way to boot w/ livecd and specify an existing root partition?
[03:25] <Raubkopierer> dc with Windows... and in some guides in net...
[03:25] <rob_33> jrib-okay thanks
[03:25] <wapityyy> Flannel: only one
[03:25] <Pelo> xenakis,   I am not much of an expert on samba,   again, check the forum
[03:25] <Flannel> wapityyy: uh, do you have a usb drive?
[03:25] <wapityyy> ye
[03:26] <xenakis> Pelo: yeah I'
[03:26] <xenakis> Pelo: yeah I've been doing that and can't seem to figure it out...
[03:26] <Flannel> wapityyy: boot a liveCD, download those files, and put them on the real harddrive.  Sorry,  Iguess you dont need a USB stick for that
[03:26] <bayziders> Does any one know how to create a hfs+ paritition  from ubuntu?
[03:26] <wapityyy> Flannel: i have feisty CD
[03:26] <wapityyy> i burned it
[03:26] <Pelo> bayziders,  check the forum
[03:27] <uNR[Ron] talent> Was wondering if anyone figured out a way to boot the ubuntu iso on a ntfs or fat32 partition using grub? i dont have a cd drive in the machine i plan to install on and pxe (network) install is not possible (usb nic)
[03:27] <Flannel> wapityyy: Right.  Boot to it, mount your hard disk, and download those files onto it
[03:27] <wapityyy> Flannel: does that include not reinstalling ubuntu ?
[03:28] <Flannel> wapityyy: yes.
[03:28] <dc> lol
[03:28] <bayziders> Pelo: okay hold on
[03:28] <wapityyy> Flannel:  and the files i need to download are apt libgcc1 libstdc++6 gcc-4.1-base ?
[03:29] <Flannel> wapityyy: the feisty amd64 debs for those, yeah.  save them soemwhere easy, like your homedir
[03:29] <uNR[Ron] talent> I can boot knoppix using files from grube.zip but it looks for KNOPPIX files in the iso, which of course do not exist ^_^
[03:29] <wapityyy> Flannel: kk and after that ?
[03:29] <word> Errmm...I get this error in my Xorg.0.log - "BOGUS LENGTH in write keyboard desc, expected 5840, got 5844" and then x crashes it seems to be accelerated by graphics intensive programs.....anyone know what could be wrong?
[03:30] <Pelo> uNR[Ron] talent,   try looking in the forum there are many installation alternatives mentionned there
[03:30] <Flannel> wapityyy: reboot back to the real thing, and use dpkg to install those few files.  Then we hope apt-get works
[03:30] <wapityyy> kk
[03:31] <harry_> One of my computers has suddenly started to run veeeeeerrrrry slowly
[03:31] <wapityyy> ok
[03:31] <harry_> and I can't figure out why
[03:31] <wapityyy> gona reboot
[03:31] <wapityyy> wish me luck 
[03:31] <jrib> harry_: checked top?
[03:31] <redwyrm> does support exist for Dynex webcams?
[03:31] <russe11> When I nmap my Ubuntu Edgy computer, it shows port 111 open. What might cause this?
[03:31] <harry_> jrib: what?
[03:31] <Pelo> harry_,   check the system monitor see what is eating us your cpu
[03:31] <bulmer> harry_: do a  ipcs
[03:32] <harry_> on the command line?
[03:32] <bulmer> yes
[03:32] <harry_> yeah, I can't.
[03:32] <harry_> Ubuntu server has been loading for about 20 mins now.
[03:32] <leslie> can is teal soemone for some quick questions?
[03:32] <colbert> What is GTK 1.x and 2.x? I am a bit confused, I am on gnome-look.org but don't know what that means
[03:32] <xtknight> !ask
[03:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:32] <leslie> i steal*
[03:33] <harry_> the BIOS loads,
[03:33] <harry_> and I can get into the BIOS setup
[03:33] <xtknight> colbert, gtk 2.x is the engine that draws buttons, panels, etc.  metacity is what draws window borders
[03:33] <leslie> terminal commands.. i'm familair with windows, trying to switch
[03:33] <Pelo> leslie,  just ask,  if someone cann answer they will try
[03:33] <xtknight> colbert, ubuntu uses gtk 2.x.  gtk 1.x was a prior version
[03:33] <leslie> i need to know where i can find a list of terminal commands
[03:33] <Pelo> leslie,  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[03:33] <colbert> xtknight: ah ok, thanks.. so I can download and install gtk 2.x? I am using edgy
[03:33] <colbert> i mean gtk 2.x themes
[03:33] <xtknight> colbert, ya
[03:33] <Erealz> hello I need help umounting a cdrom is say it device is busy what command should I try?
[03:33] <harry_> GRUB loads, and lets me pick what I want to load, but then it hangs
[03:34] <colbert> ok
[03:34] <redwyrm> Erealz, fuser
[03:34] <bulmer> leslie right there on your finger tips ..on your command line itself
[03:34] <js1> so how u run sudo with CAP_SYS_RAWIO, i found something of sudo setfcaps .... binary?
[03:34] <xtknight> js1, what?
[03:34] <bulmer> leslie how many commands you'd like?
[03:34] <leslie>  bulmer, not helping.
[03:34] <Pelo> leslie,  http://truehacker.blogspot.com/2006/11/200-linux-commands-for-newbbies.html   http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[03:35] <leslie> i'd like to learn to change directories, etc.
[03:35] <Flannel> !cli | leslie
[03:35] <ubotu> leslie: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:35] <js1> I'm trying to give java... only access to the serial port
[03:35] <bulmer> leslie just tap your tab twice and you'd see hundreds if not thousands
[03:35] <xtknight> ah  tty is serial isnt it?
[03:36] <js1> currently i run sudo java org.....serial /dev/ttyUSB0
[03:36] <xtknight> js1,  did you see if chmoding tty worked?
[03:36] <xtknight> ah ttyUSB wont be a problem.  that's a serial->usb converter thing
[03:36] <xtknight> chmod ttyUSB without fear :
[03:36] <js1> yes
[03:36] <harry_> err. oh wait it seems to work now
[03:36] <js1> will it work everytime i connect it
[03:36] <xtknight> js1, yes chmods are permanent
[03:36] <js1> how do i chmod things that dont exist yet ?
[03:36] <bayziders> I burnt a iso to a disk but it stayed an iso and didnt become a bunch of files like it was supposed to what did I do wrong?
[03:36] <js1> like USB1,2,3,4,5,
[03:36] <Linuxnewbie756> is kleansweep safe to use, meaning if i run it will it screw up everything?
[03:36] <leslie> ubota
[03:37] <xtknight> js1, oh.. hmm.  probably an option on the driver. sudo modprobe <options>
[03:37] <bruenig> bayziders, what?
[03:37] <Linuxnewbie756> or is is basically crap cleaner for linux?
[03:37] <Erealz> listen eveyone that can help me im trying to install unreal 2004 on my box but wheni pop in the first cd a min into the install it ask for the 2nd cd to continue the install, so I can't seem to eject the cddrive with out killing the install process?!
[03:37] <anandanbu> does anyone know how to install the themes in Kubuntu
[03:37] <leslie> where is "desktop" in linux?
[03:37] <Pelo> bayziders,   what did you burn it with ?  you don'T jsut burn it as data you burn an image
[03:37] <bruenig> anandanbu, go to #kubuntu
[03:37] <xtknight> !kubuntu
[03:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:37] <bruenig> leslie, /home/username/Desktop (note capitalization)
[03:37] <bayziders> Oh I was using genome breaker
[03:37] <Linuxnewbie756> leslie: /home/your name here/Desktip
[03:37] <bayziders> Does it support images?
[03:37] <xtknight> Erealz, you need to set an environment vvariable.  let me get the url
[03:37] <uNR[Ron] talent> Pelo, thanks, searched all over Google but didnt consider the forums T_T
[03:37] <Linuxnewbie756> leslie: Desktop, not tip
[03:37] <harry_> is there a way to use irc from the command line?
[03:37] <Pelo> bayziders,  it's in the menues
[03:37] <Flannel> harry_: irssi
[03:38] <jrib> harry_: irssi, bitchx
[03:38] <bruenig> bayziders, yeah it does, or you can use cdrecord very simply "cdrecord dev=/dev/whatever file.iso
[03:38] <Erealz> thanks anything that can help it out with this stupid problem
[03:38] <xtknight> Erealz, this tells you everything you need to know.  i had the exact problem the other day.  http://www.linuxelectrons.com/features/reviews/playing-unreal-tournament-2004-linux
[03:38] <harry_> I can apt-get those, right
[03:38] <xtknight> Erealz, "export SETUP_CDROM=/mnt/cdrom" thats what fixes it.  replace mnt cdrom as neccessary
[03:38] <jrib> harry_: right
[03:38] <xtknight> Erealz, youll have to restart the install
[03:38] <Flannel> harry_: It might be installed by default
[03:38] <Pelo> uNR[Ron] talent,  the ubuntu forums are a gold mine,  but donT' tell ppl,  they'll stop comming here
[03:38] <Erealz> k
[03:39] <bayziders> Lol i think my cd drive broke it wont open O_O
[03:39] <Erealz> hey did you install unreal xtknight
[03:39] <Erealz> if so how those it run?
[03:39] <leslie> ty god.
[03:39] <xtknight> Erealz, if you have other troubles let me know also.  personally when the setup finished it deleted UT2004 binary by mistake.  that was really puzzling.  i had to force quiet install
[03:39] <leslie> thanks ubota, was having a ahrd as hell time trying to isntall wireless drivers
[03:39] <bayziders> this isnt good ;_;
[03:39] <bruenig> !thanks | leslie
[03:39] <Pelo> bayziders,  if it is being used it won't open it gets locked,  kill the app that is using it first
[03:39] <Erealz> got a sn I can holla at
[03:39] <xtknight> i'm afraid not heh
[03:39] <effie_jayx> Are
[03:39] <bruenig> what is wrong with ubotu
[03:40] <ubotu> leslie: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:40] <kitche> bruenig: it keeps getting stuck on something Seveas said
[03:40] <leslie> oh.. jesus.
[03:40] <Erealz> because you can imagin bro it hard to get help with so meny people
[03:40] <xtknight> Erealz, youll have to go...elsewhere...for that stuff ;) but i can help you get it installed if you have a valid key
[03:40] <leslie> that's a bot?
[03:40] <Erealz> I do
[03:40] <bruenig> !botsnack | leslie
[03:40] <ubotu> leslie: Yum!
[03:40] <xtknight> Erealz, well it runs pretty well.  i didnt try patching it yet.  so far it has crashed twice though, but again i didnt patch anything yet so that's probably a problem.
[03:40] <kofler> Hi, how would I modify GDM to display a picture at all times? Currently, I have a background image that goes with a theme I downloaded, but as soon as I login, I see the default Ubuntu Human Theme brown.
[03:40] <leslie> lol...!botsmack | bruenig
[03:40] <kofler> I don't want the ugly brown to show up when I'm going from GDM -> KDE or even when I'm going from GDM -> GNOME.
[03:40] <leslie> !botsmack | bruenig
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <Erealz> iight
[03:41] <bruenig> !opsnack | leslie
[03:41] <kofler> I want my neutral background to display.
[03:41] <ubotu> leslie: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[03:41] <kofler> I've modified /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom to have [greeter]  support BackgroundType=3 and BackgroundImage=/path/to/my/image.png
[03:41] <bayziders> oh okay thanks
[03:41] <leslie> !opsnack | bruenig
[03:41] <ubotu> bruenig: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[03:41] <leslie> cute.
[03:41] <Erealz> xtknight do you have a IM sn I can hit you up
[03:41] <leslie> thanks.
[03:41] <Nicholas76> Yay! I ordered 3 ubuntu, 3 kubuntu, and 3 edubuntu CDs from ShipIt!
[03:41] <bayziders> This room is a life saver =)
[03:41] <Erealz> incase I find my seld stuck
[03:41] <Erealz> self*
[03:41] <thepumpkin1979> how could I know which directory have the Kernel Headers files? i'm compiling VMWARE.
[03:41] <xtknight> Erealz, eh i'll be here.  just install it right now and if you have any problems let me know
[03:41] <xtknight> i'll be here for at least another couple hours ;)
[03:41] <leslie> trying to isntall atheros wireless drivers on a ubuntu distro.. clean isntall, brand new hard drive
[03:42] <Erealz> mmkl
[03:42] <bruenig> thepumpkin1979, assuming they are installed, /usr/src I believe
[03:42] <leslie> can anyone help?
[03:42] <xtknight> !wireless
[03:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:42] <thepumpkin1979> bruenig: installer assumes /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/build/include
[03:42] <leslie> that didn't help, read almost everything there
[03:42] <leslie> even if it wasn't pertenant
[03:42] <thepumpkin1979> bruenig: i have upgraded from edgy to feisty
[03:42] <bruenig> thepumpkin1979, I could be wrong, I might be thinking of something els
[03:43] <Nicholas76> Is it worth upgrading to FF?
[03:43] <Pelo> Nicholas76,  wait for the stable
[03:43] <bruenig> Nicholas76, 4 days away, I don't see the point
[03:43] <thepumpkin1979> well, VM WARE was working before upgrade.
[03:43] <xtknight> 4 days wont change much
[03:43] <Pelo> bruenig,  it's gonna be late
[03:43] <xtknight> just 'upgrade' ;)
[03:43] <xtknight> ah yeah cuz of kernel regressions
[03:43] <bruenig> Pelo, maybe
[03:43] <Nicholas76> I think I will upgrade.
[03:43] <hateyla> can i install beryl in ubuntu-dapper drake
[03:43] <Pelo> bruenig,  there was an annoucement
[03:43] <harry_> is there a way to do lshw so that it pauses and waits for you, instaed of rushing all the text past really fast that you can't read
[03:44] <xtknight> hateyla, yes.  beryl has great guides on their wiki
[03:44] <bruenig> Pelo, hmmm, no one informed me
[03:44] <wapityyy> xtknight: im on live cd right now
[03:44] <xtknight> harry_, sudo lshw | less
[03:44] <leslie> trying to isntall atheros wireless drivers on a ubuntu distro.. clean isntall, brand new hard drive. got the source files, tried to run the makefile... got a bunch of errors
[03:44] <wapityyy> Flannel: live cd =#
[03:44] <redwyrm> harry_, <command> | less
[03:44] <wapityyy> now how do i install the packages you talked about please ^
[03:44] <xtknight> harry_, to output it to a text file, "sudo lshw | strings > lshwTextFile"
[03:44] <wapityyy> ?
[03:44] <thepumpkin1979> well, i just need to know which kernel version am i running.
[03:44] <kitche> Pelo was this annoucement recently since gnomefreak didn't hear anything at 7:00pm or so EST
[03:44] <bruenig> thepumpkin1979, uname -r
[03:45] <xtknight> wapityyy, hmm give me a moment
[03:45] <wapityyy> kk
[03:45] <Pelo> kitche,  yesterday or the day before on diggs
[03:45] <shawn34> whats the command to blacklist a driver?
[03:45] <xtknight> wapityyy, might have to get Flannel back here.  not sure how he wanted you to do this exactly.  i dont know how we are going to put packages on the broken system
[03:45] <xtknight> !blacklist | shawn34
[03:45] <ubotu> shawn34: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[03:45] <bruenig> on digg I thought they said RC was delayed but not necessarily final
[03:45] <thepumpkin1979> thanks bruenig
[03:45] <shawn34> thanks
[03:45] <wapityyy> kk
[03:45] <kitche> Pelo hmm the RC was delayed not the stable version though
[03:45] <hateyla> xtknight, i heared that .. for beryl i need some ATI card? well i have "  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) " in my laptop .. so with this can i install beryl?
[03:45] <wapityyy> Flannel: are you there^
[03:46] <xtknight> wapityyy, ah never mind i think i got it
[03:46] <Flannel> xtknight: was using a liveCD to download the files into his homedir
[03:46] <xtknight> yeah
[03:46] <ekis> hello, how can i give permission to a user for view ntfs, vfat disks ?
[03:46] <xtknight> forgot, his dpkg does work
[03:46] <xtknight> ekis, umask=0022 for ntfs.  not sure about vfat
[03:46] <xtknight> same thing perhaps
[03:46] <hateyla> xtknight,  yeah for me ? or for someone?
[03:46] <Pelo> http://www.ubuntunews.info/feisty-release-candidate-delayed
[03:46] <jrib> !vfat > ekis    (ekis, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:46] <xtknight> hateyla, i'm not sure if you can use beryl on that
[03:46] <wapityyy> so yeha, now im on live cd... how do i put the 4 packages into my home dir ^
[03:46] <bruenig> it is possible that this will delay the final release
[03:46] <kitche> Pelo yep feisty release candidate
[03:47] <ekis> jrib: thanks !! xtknight thanks too
[03:47] <hateyla> xtknight,  okie..
[03:47] <kitche> bruenig: they are not sure
[03:47] <bruenig> kitche, right
[03:47] <xtknight> wapityyy, "wget -c http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/packages/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/libgcc1_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb"
[03:47] <Crazytom> leslie, what chipset is your wireless card?
[03:47] <boyko> Hey guys.
[03:47] <bruenig> RC is final, the last times I don't even think they made a single change
[03:47] <xtknight> wapityyy, actually hold on.
[03:47] <Flannel> hateyla: you might ask in #ubuntu-effects, they would be able to tell you for sure
[03:47] <wapityyy> xtknight: kk
[03:47] <technel> I just booted into Ubuntu and my sound doesn't work. It was always fine before, and it was just working on Windows. I checked the tray icon and it is NOT muted, my head phones are plugged in and on....I feel like an idiot...
[03:47] <xtknight> wapityyy, do you know what block device your Ubuntu home directory resides on?
[03:48] <xtknight> /dev/hdc1, /dev/sda2, etc
[03:48] <wapityyy> hda5
[03:48] <hateyla> Flannel, thanks :)
[03:48] <GaiaX11> bruenig: What's RC?
[03:48] <xtknight> wapityyy, sudo mkdir -p /media/windows && sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/windows
[03:48] <xtknight> rc=release candidate
[03:48] <xtknight> precursor to final gold release
[03:48] <Flannel> wapityyy, xtknight, wait... Your homedir is on another partition?
[03:48] <bruenig> GaiaX11, release candidate
[03:49] <xtknight> Flannel, not necessarily.  not sure.
[03:49] <wapityyy> Flannel: no
[03:49] <xtknight> i.e. "/dev/hda5/"home
[03:49] <GaiaX11> xtknight: Do you mean feisty?
[03:49] <wapityyy> Flannel: thats my ubuntu partition
[03:49] <xtknight> GaiaX11, yea
[03:49] <boyko> Great, now I have to defeat Bowser in another partition again.  How many times do I need to do this?  Eight?
[03:49] <bruenig> GaiaX11, it is basically the last beta before final
[03:49] <onespeed> how do I find and mount a partition that Ubuntu doesn't yet recognize?
[03:49] <xtknight> wapityyy, alright.  now "sudo -i"
[03:49] <wapityyy> oh wait
[03:49] <xtknight> wapityyy, to avoid silly permissions problem with the windows partition
[03:49] <bruenig> onespeed, sudo fdisk -l doesn't list it'?
[03:49] <wapityyy> xtknight:  i do sudo mkdir -p /media/windows && sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/window
[03:49] <wapityyy> or the other
[03:50] <xtknight> darn what ma i thinking
[03:50] <xtknight> youre not mounting windows
[03:50] <xtknight> never mind
[03:50] <LordLimeca1> does anyone know how to send a request to a VNC listener in ubuntu?
[03:50] <xtknight> wapityyy, sudo mkdir -p /media/linux && sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/linux
[03:50] <wapityyy> o_O
[03:50] <xtknight> all in one command
[03:50] <wapityyy> kk
[03:50] <sanityx> this is how you fix any problem:
[03:50] <sanityx> sudo fluxcapacitor --fix
[03:50] <Kikkoman> Can anyone tell me how to enable NTFS support in Ubuntu? I can read from it, but not write to.
[03:50] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > Kikkoman    (Kikkoman, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:50] <xtknight> fluxcapacitor: libfluxcapacitor.so.5 missing
[03:50] <xtknight> :(
[03:50] <sonnie> xtknight: i have both 3c940 and 3c905 netcard, "sk98lin" is inserted. but dmesg only shows 3c905
[03:51] <LordLimeca1> sanityx, command not found, but feisty has offered to download it for me
[03:51] <xtknight> sonnie, interesting.  im not sure
[03:51] <wapityyy> xtknight: i typed sudo mkdir -p /media/linux && sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/linux but it just gave me another line ... nothing no error or wtv
[03:51] <bruenig> that feisty offer to download will get annoying I predict
[03:51] <xtknight> wapityyy, dont put in the double quotes
[03:51] <xtknight> wapityyy, press ctrl C to terminate the current line
[03:51] <LordLimeca1> bruenig: does it only do it for things that CAN be d/ld
[03:51] <xtknight> yes
[03:51] <Flannel> !ntfs-3g | Kikkoman
[03:51] <ubotu> Kikkoman: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:51] <LordLimeca1> or will it offer to download "fix_the_internet"
[03:51] <bruenig> LordLimeca1, still
[03:52] <wapityyy> xtknight: root@ubuntu:~# sudo mkdir -p /media/linux && sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/linux
[03:52] <wapityyy> mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /media/linux busy
[03:52] <wapityyy> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda5 is already mounted on /media/linux
[03:52] <xtknight> takes some cycles on wrong cmds tho
[03:52] <gnychis> if i install version 5.0, how hard will it be to update to 6.0 after the install? i'm having problems with 6.0 recognizing my keyboard and mouse but 5.0 boots and installs
[03:52] <bruenig> wapityyy, already mounted it says
[03:52] <xtknight> wapityyy, eh k well whatever.  type "sudo -i" now
[03:52] <wapityyy> xtknight: done
[03:52] <Flannel> gnychis: 5.0 and 6.0?  Is this ubuntu?
[03:52] <xtknight> wapityyy, actually scratch that lol.  type "exit"
[03:52] <wapityyy> done
[03:52] <bruenig> is he talking about java
[03:52] <xtknight> wapityyy, "cd /media/linux" now
[03:52] <Kikkoman> Flannel: Does ntfs-3g work with Feisty?
[03:52] <Flannel> Kikkoman: ntfs-3g is default in feisty, I believe
[03:53] <wapityyy> xtknight: done
[03:53] <xtknight> wapityyy, then "cd home/username"
[03:53] <bruenig> the new kernel has write in it
[03:53] <Flannel> Kikkoman: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[03:53] <gnychis> Flannel: yeah, isn't the newest 6.10?
[03:53] <GaiaX11> bruenig: xtknight I am still using dapper. I did not had a good experience with edgy so I am in dapper because everything works fine here :-) I am still thinking if I will go for Feisty. Not sure yet
[03:53] <leslie> crazytom it's a hp nc6000. Says it's an atheros wireless card, but i'm not really sure what's wrong with it
[03:53] <LordLimeca1> im having an issue with a newly compile kernel...after booting to desktop, web browsers and irc do not have any connectivity, though i can ping google
[03:53] <xtknight> ntfs-3g is still more featureful i think.  NTFS write in kernel is partial but stable i believe.
[03:53] <DigitalDeviant> im trying to install a theme and it says file format invalid. here is the theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Relaxing+Water?content=48213. Im running ubutntu 6.06
[03:53] <dawynn> Anyone have experience with getting a generic gamepad to work in Linux?
[03:53] <Crazytom> leslie, have you installed ndiswrapper?
[03:53] <Flannel> gnychis: 6.10 isn't 6.0  Its year.month theres also 6.06 for instance.  And  likewise, 5.04 and 5.10
[03:53] <wapityyy> xtknight: it cant see my home dir =#
[03:53] <xtknight> wapityyy, ?
[03:53] <wapityyy> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/linux$ cd home
[03:53] <wapityyy> bash: cd: home: No such file or directory
[03:53] <leslie> simple wireless scanner is detecting networks with it, but i can't seem to connect to anything
[03:53] <xtknight> wapityyy, weird.  type "ls"
[03:54] <leslie> i guess not, fill me in
[03:54] <xtknight> wapityyy, what do you see?
[03:54] <wapityyy> Documents and Settings  Stargate.Atlantis.S02E01-20.WS.DVDRip.XviD-SAiNTS
[03:54] <wapityyy> Drivers                 System Volume Information
[03:54] <wapityyy> Recycled                $vault$.avg
[03:54] <gnychis> Flannel: regardless, how hard is it after it is installed to upgrade between years
[03:54] <xtknight> wapityyy, eh that is windows
[03:54] <jrib> wapityyy: pirate
[03:54] <wapityyy> lol
[03:54] <bruenig> wow that stargate alantis filename looks like suspicious
[03:54] <wapityyy> bruenig: canada = legal
[03:54] <bruenig> s/like//
[03:54] <Flannel> gnychis: not years.  Six months.  And very easy.  But you have to do it one at a time.  5.04 to 5.10 to 6.06 to 6.10  you can't go from 5.10 to 6.10
[03:54] <sanityx_> im so used to linux at this point that in windows i alias ls to dir
[03:54] <xtknight> wapityyy, "sudo fdisk -l" find your linux partition
[03:55] <wapityyy> xtknight: i see 3
[03:55] <sonnie> xtknight: finally got it. the interface index on 3c904 has changed from 1 to 2, don't know why
[03:55] <wapityyy> /dev/hda5           12045       17145    40967608+   b  W95 FAT32
[03:55] <wapityyy> /dev/hda6           17146       19057    15358108+  83  Linux
[03:55] <wapityyy> /dev/hda7           19058       24655    44965903+  83  Linux
[03:55] <wapityyy> /dev/hda8           24656       24792     1100421   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[03:55] <leslie> crazytom, how would i go about installing that?
[03:55] <xtknight> sonnie, hrm..like under /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:55] <xtknight> !paste
[03:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:55] <onespeed> can someone give me the command to mount a new partition? is "mount dev/hdb1 /mnt/win" close??
[03:55] <xtknight> wapityyy, probably /dev/hda7?
[03:55] <Flannel> xtknight: if it turns out he has /home in a separate partition, it *will* be eaiser to just reinstall
[03:56] <bruenig> onespeed, assuming those parameters correct: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win
[03:56] <xtknight> wapityyy,  you dont have a separate home partition or do you?
[03:56] <hateyla> Flannel,  can i 6.06 to 7.04 ? the final one?
[03:56] <sonnie> xtknight: i have modified /etc/network/interfaces, now both cards are working
[03:56] <wapityyy> Pelo: its legal here i checked
[03:56] <wapityyy> xtknight: nope
[03:56] <bruenig> hateyla, no, you will have to go through 6.10 first
[03:56] <Crazytom> leslie http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[03:56] <Flannel> hateyla: 6.10 to 7.04
[03:56] <dawynn> Again, anyone here with experience installing joysticks / gamepads
[03:56] <sanityx_> man when is 7.04 rc coming out
[03:56] <Pelo> wapityyy,  I 'm here to and I doubt it , but have it your way
[03:56] <xtknight> wapityyy, cd /; sudo umount /media/linux
[03:56] <crimsun> sanityx_: when you stop asking :-)
[03:56] <sanityx_> crimsun: I wish!
[03:56] <crimsun> so stop asking! :-)
[03:56] <wapityyy> xtknight: done
[03:56] <EduRJO> Guys, how can I change a digital camera mount point?  I've changed it once, and putted a "/" , now my cybershot doesn't mounts anymore.  Any hints?
[03:57] <Flannel> gnychis, hateyla, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:57] <sanityx_> :-P
[03:57] <bruenig> EduRJO, you can only mount things to empty directories, / is not empty
[03:57] <DarkFlasher> hey folks, i am running Wine and having visual issues in my application (Anarchy Online). what can i do to fix them?
[03:57] <xtknight> wapityyy, sudo mount /dev/hda7 /media/linux
[03:57] <Bloghardt> is there anyway to make it so that only one evolution opens up?  (just curious)
[03:57] <xtknight> DarkFlasher, #winehq
[03:57] <wapityyy> xtknight: done
[03:57] <dawynn> exit
[03:57] <xtknight> wapityyy, ls /media/linux/home
[03:57] <DarkFlasher> i been there ;_;
[03:58] <wapityyy> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/linux$ cd /; sudo umount /media/linux
[03:58] <wapityyy> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo mount /dev/hda7 /media/linux
[03:58] <wapityyy> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ ls /media/linux/home
[03:58] <wapityyy> ls: /media/linux/home: No such file or directory
[03:58] <GaiaX11> hateyla: I am in 6.06 and will try to skip 6.10 and go to 7.04
[03:58] <xtknight> wapityyy, er actually "cd /media/linux" then "ls".
[03:58] <madman91> hello all.. i just upgraded to feisty... my mouse scrolly thing does not work in firefox or nautilus.. but it does in the rest of gnome... whats the dealio? and how can i fix it?
[03:58] <Flannel> GaiaX11, hateyla: that won't work
[03:58] <Flannel> madman91: #ubuntu+1 for FEisty support
[03:58] <xtknight> madman91,  use evdev maybe
[03:58] <wapityyy> xtknight: list of users
[03:58] <xtknight> wapityyy, ok that's it then
[03:58] <xtknight> wapityyy, "cd" into yours
[03:58] <LordLimeca1> is there a way for a user to send a request to a VNC viewer in listen mode?  Any response would be appreciated :(
[03:59] <wapityyy> xtknight: kk
[03:59] <cara> Hi alll
[03:59] <xtknight> wapityyy, type "touch testfile"
[03:59] <xtknight> wapityyy, and let me know if it says permission denied or anything
[03:59] <GaiaX11> Flannel: I heard tha somebody in the kubuntu channel did the trick and it worked
[03:59] <hateyla> Flannel,  if i have fiesty live CD? and want to install fiesty clean in Dapper partition .. so format dapper first?
[03:59] <wapityyy> xtknight: denied
[03:59] <RenatoSilva> how much sabdfl apperars here?
[03:59] <xtknight> wapityyy, ok type "sudo -i"
[03:59] <Flannel> xtknight: if he's got a separate home partition, he should just reinstall around it.  He isn't gaining anything by not
[03:59] <xtknight> Flannel, ahh true
[03:59] <Flannel> hateyla: if youre reinstalling, then juust reinstall, pop in feisty, hit install
[03:59] <fiery_cleric> LordLimeca1: request?
[03:59] <xtknight> wapityyy, apparently you do have a separate home partition so you might just want to reinstall
[04:00] <Crazytom> hateyla, just pop in the disk and reboot you can format from inside the installedr
[04:00] <bayziders> How do you mount a hfs+ parition>
[04:00] <wapityyy> xtknight: well i wanna try your way first...
[04:00] <Flannel> GaiaX11: It *may* work, it was never designed to work, his might work, and yours wont
[04:00] <wapityyy> xtknight: that part is done
[04:00] <LordLimeca1> fiery_cleric: yea, so that the user im trying to help doesnt have to port forward, they can just connect to my box
[04:00] <LordLimeca1> and i have control
[04:00] <hateyla> okie thanks Flannel  ANd Crazytom
[04:00] <xtknight> wapityyy, hmm.  well ok
[04:00] <wapityyy> :)
[04:00] <xtknight> wapityyy, "wget -c http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/packages/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/libgcc1_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb"
[04:00] <LordLimeca1> on my end i would have to issue the command vncviewer -listen
[04:00] <leslie> crazytom
[04:00] <madman91> xtknight: what is that?
[04:00] <xtknight> Flannel, what pkgs did he need again?
[04:00] <LordLimeca1> whats the command on the other end
[04:00] <leslie> i ot an error making THAt install too
[04:00] <leslie> got*
[04:00] <Flannel> wapityyy: really a reinstall will be best.  You're currently essentially "reinstalling" anyway.  Only manually, which could very well leave packages missing
[04:01] <xtknight> madman91, 'evdev' is another Xorg mouse driver.  do you have a logitech?
[04:01] <Flannel> xtknight, wapityyy: apt libgcc1 libstdc++6 gcc-4.1-base
[04:01] <RenatoSilva> where is MArk?
[04:01] <xtknight> ahh
[04:01] <madman91> xtknight: yes
[04:01] <RenatoSilva> Mr. Shuttleworth???
[04:01] <madman91> xtknight: optical mouse man
[04:01] <fiery_cleric> LordLimeca1: sorry dont no
[04:01] <Flannel> RenatoSilva: not here
[04:01] <xtknight> madman91, search ubuntu forums for logitech evdev for a good guide
[04:01] <fiery_cleric> know
[04:01] <wapityyy> xtknight: now ^
[04:01] <wapityyy> ?
[04:01] <madman91> xtknight: thanks
[04:01] <xtknight> wapityyy, sec
[04:01] <wapityyy> k
[04:02] <GaiaX11> Flannel: I know that the official ubuntu site does not recommend to do it. But I think I will try after doing a backup. With is the best ubuntu backup tool, anyway?
[04:02] <LordLimeca1> bruenig, do you know how to connect to another ubuntu user using vncviewer -listen?
[04:02] <sanityx_> hey whats everybodys impression of ubuntu server?
[04:02] <Flannel> !backup | GaiaX11
[04:02] <ubotu> GaiaX11: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[04:02] <xtknight> Flannel, maybe we could just extract the pkgs right into his /media/linux root?
[04:02] <Crazytom> leslie, what error?
[04:02] <sanityx_> I've loved ubuntu as a desktop OS so far but no real experience using it for a server
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Flannel: but how frequently sabdfl does appear?
[04:02] <xtknight> wapityyy, "wget -c http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/packages/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.6.46.4ubuntu10_amd64.deb"
[04:02] <Flannel> xtknight: No.  You'll want to reboot to his real thing and use dpkg
[04:02] <hateyla> Flannel, hope so.. after installaing fiesty i able to use beryl :>
[04:03] <Kikkoman> How do I install the ntfs-3g package? I moved my second hard drive to the desktop and it has a lock icon, so I don't know if I can write to it. (I can read from it perfectly.
[04:03] <wapityyy> xtknight: done
[04:03] <Flannel> sanityx_: It works fine
[04:03] <xtknight> wapityyy, "wget -c http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/packages/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/libstdc++6_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb"
[04:03] <leslie> crazytom implicit declaration of function
[04:03] <sanityx_> Flannel: How descriptive, thank you.
[04:03] <xtknight> wapityyy, "wget -c http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/packages/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/gcc-4.1-base_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb"
[04:03] <leslie> followed by a loadndisdriver error 1
[04:03] <wapityyy> sanityx xD
[04:03] <Crazytom> leslie, what were you doing?
[04:03] <fiery_cleric> Kikkoman: last i heard ntfs writing isnt completely stable
[04:03] <wapityyy> xtknight: 02:03:38 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[04:04] <leslie> i had the directory opened in terminal
[04:04] <xtknight> wapityyy, "wget -c http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/gcc-4.1-base_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb"
[04:04] <leslie> and i was "making"?
[04:04] <xtknight> wapityyy, it was gcc-4.1 that failed?
[04:04] <leslie> step by step what these guides say to do
[04:04] <Kikkoman> fiery_cleric: Thanks, but it doesn't exactly answer my question
 wapityyy, "wget -c http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/packages/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/gcc-4.1-base_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb"
[04:04] <wapityyy> that one
[04:04] <xtknight> k do the last one
[04:04] <xtknight> wapityyy, "wget -c http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/gcc-4.1-base_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb"
[04:04] <Crazytom> leslie, you were following that page i sent you?
[04:04] <fiery_cleric> Kikkoman: have u copied the contents
[04:04] <leslie> yes, i was
[04:05] <wapityyy> done
[04:05] <xtknight> soudns like a compiler error
[04:05] <xtknight> wapityyy, ok reboot
[04:05] <Kikkoman> fiery_cleric: ... of what?
[04:05] <leslie> it shot me a list of errors
[04:05] <wapityyy> xtknight: on live or real ^
[04:05] <fiery_cleric> Kikkoman: the hdd or just have it mounted
[04:05] <xtknight> wapityyy, reboot to real
[04:05] <wapityyy> kk
[04:05] <wapityyy> brb
[04:05] <Kikkoman> fiery_cleric I have it mounted
[04:05] <DarkFlasher> can anyone tell me how i disable xgl/aixgl?
[04:05] <Crazytom> leslie, why didn't you just use synaptic like it says in the first part?  that's only if you want to do it the hard way
[04:05] <fiery_cleric> Kikkoman: why do u want to use ntfs?
[04:05] <Flannel> DarkFlasher: #ubuntu-effects
[04:06] <bayziders> How do you mount a hfs+ partition?
[04:06] <xtknight> bayziders, have you tried using regular hfs FS type?
[04:06] <leslie> i can't gte it to show up in synaptic.
[04:06] <xtknight> mount -t hfs ..
[04:06] <Crazytom> leslie, hence the "if it doesn't work" header
[04:06] <LordLimeca1> xtknight: do you know how to connect to another ubuntu user with vncviewer -listen?
[04:06] <bayziders> xtknight a regular what ?
[04:06] <LordLimeca1> whats teh command on their end
[04:06] <leslie> ... trust me, i'm in no mood to do things the long way right now
[04:06] <leslie> it didn't work
[04:06] <xtknight> LordLimeca1, hm nope
[04:07] <xtknight> bayziders, sudo mount -t hfs /dev/device /mnt/mntpoint
[04:07] <Kikkoman> fiery_cleric: Because, it is the filesystem installed, and it is a windows drive
[04:07] <Crazytom> leslie, is that computer connected to the internet?  also do you have universal repos enabled?
[04:07] <RenatoSilva> I want to talk with MArk Shuttleworth, he had said would be around here
[04:07] <bayziders> Let me try
[04:07] <leslie> i am talking to you on "that computer"
[04:07] <cara> I'm having problem with the bcm4310 wireless nic to work.  Here's my dmesg output, http://rafb.net/p/bsH95B74.html and my lspci output http://rafb.net/p/qoWcZi82.html
[04:07] <harry_> I was trying to install a program called Numenta, but the install instructions were only for RedHat & SUSE. I followed along as best I could, but it didn't work.  the instructions are here: http://www.numenta.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Installing_on_SUSE_Linux_Enterprise_9_SP3_and_Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_4.4&rcid=1788 . If anyone could help me , that would be great.
[04:07] <xtknight> LordLimeca1, read "man vncviewer" ?
[04:07] <bayziders> Can I mount it some where else like a folder on my desktop?
[04:07] <leslie> and i have no clue what universal repos are
[04:07] <xtknight> !universe
[04:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:07] <whileimhere> Hi I have a laptop and was wondering what the hype is with beryl
[04:08] <leslie> i have it on my ethernet hard wired, trying to make the wireless work.
[04:08] <fiery_cleric> Kikkoman: copy the data, reformat drive to another fs, copy data back ... otherwise i would use a fat32 partition if u want to transfer data between linux an windoze
[04:08] <xtknight> harry_, it doesnt look like there are any suse specific commands there
[04:08] <xtknight> harry_, that is probably just all they officially support
[04:08] <Kikkoman> fiery_cleric: Copying and reformatting isn't an option here, That drive is 120 GB and this one is 6.4
[04:08] <xtknight> harry_, i can translate the pkg names though
[04:08] <Pelo> whileimhere,  beryl is eye candy,  menu animations, transparent borders and stuff like that,  if you want to know what it looks like do a search on youtube there are loads of videos
[04:09] <whileimhere> !beryl
[04:09] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:09] <Crazytom> leslie, in synaptic under preferences or system or options or something like that choose enable univeral repositories
[04:09] <Kikkoman> Kefka :D
[04:09] <whileimhere> How can I tell if my laptop handles open GL?
[04:09] <Crazytom> cara, have you tried fwcutter?
[04:09] <Pelo> bbl
[04:09] <bayziders> xtknight, it didnt work I will paste bin the error
[04:10] <corden> hello guys
[04:10] <cara> I looked at the Howto for it but it didn't work.
[04:10] <thepumpkin1979> "Save the current Session" feature seems to load Windows in Wrong place, the title bar is not showed initially, i need yo maximize the windows in order to show the titlebar again.
[04:10] <cara> Crazytom never heard of it...
[04:10] <Crazytom> cara, are you sure that it's bcm4310?
[04:10] <Sivik> ok, i currently have all users set as root privs, how do i fix this, i'm in the visudo folder
[04:10] <DarkFlasher> what's the code that shuts linux down in an hour?
[04:10] <corden> just having problem playing .mid audio file. Is .mid audio automatically supported by ubuntu or i still need to install gstreamer?
[04:10] <xtknight> !info tcl8.4-dev edgy
[04:10] <fiery_cleric> whileimhere: handles... or handles well ....
[04:11] <ubotu> tcl8.4-dev: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.4.12-1.1 (edgy), package size 719 kB, installed size 2220 kB
[04:11] <thepumpkin1979> Feisty
[04:11] <cara> Crazytom it is 4310
[04:11] <xtknight> harry_, `tk, tcl, tk-devel and tcl-devel RPMs`:  sudo apt-get install tcl8.4-dev tk8.4-dev
[04:11] <xtknight> maybe..
[04:11] <cara> did I say 4311?
[04:11] <bayziders> xtknight : this is the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15896/
[04:11] <Crazytom> cara, no i just don't see 4310 listed
[04:11] <leslie> crazytom, under software sources i have community maintained open source software (universe) enabled
[04:11] <xtknight> bayziders, sorry i dont know how to mount HFS+
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> Mr. Shuttleworth?
[04:11] <leslie> is that the setting you're refering to?
[04:11] <fiery_cleric> haha
[04:12] <Crazytom> leslie, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[04:12] <cara> what do you mean?
[04:12] <Crazytom> cara http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[04:12] <leslie> ok... i'm taking it that's a terminal command
[04:12] <Crazytom> leslie, yes
[04:12] <harry_> don't worry, i'll get my friend to help me with it.
[04:13] <corden> anybody familiar with midi audio file in ubuntu?
[04:13] <bayziders> Does any one know how to mount a hfs+ paritition in ubuntu?
[04:13] <leslie> keeps asking me if another process is using it
[04:13] <cara> Crazytom is this for the ndiswrapper?
[04:13] <Crazytom> !hfs+
[04:13] <leslie> crazytom
[04:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:13] <harry_> how do I use apt get to install all updated packages?
[04:14] <xtknight> harry_, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:14] <VR_> what's the kernel package called for athlon provessors? i can't find it, but i know it's called something-k7 ?
[04:14] <Crazytom> cara, no that's for the native bcm43xx driver
[04:14] <sorcerer22> sudo apt-get update
[04:14] <cara> nah
[04:14] <VR_> processors*
[04:14] <cara> I know the native driver doesn't work
[04:14] <sorcerer22> harry_: sudo apt-get update
[04:14] <leslie> crazytom the password it asks for is...?
[04:14] <xtknight> !info linux-image-k7 | VR_
[04:14] <cara> that's why I was using the ndiswrapper
[04:14] <ubotu> vr_: linux-image-k7: Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.11 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[04:14] <cara> it doesn't work either
[04:14] <cara> yet there's a howto for it
[04:14] <Crazytom> leslie, your password
[04:14] <leslie> crazytom, didn't work
[04:14] <VR_> xtknight: thanks
[04:15] <wapityyy> xtknight: hmm...
[04:15] <xtknight> wapityyy,
[04:15] <xtknight> ?
[04:15] <wapityyy> xtknight: it was only command line
[04:15] <user01> is there a program for sending sms messages?
[04:15] <wapityyy> xtknight: it wasl ike if i did ctrl alt f2
[04:15] <leslie> says "unable to lock the administration directory, is another process using it?"
[04:15] <xtknight> wapityyy, oh that's not good.  i'd suggest a reinstall then
[04:15] <wapityyy> xtk kk
[04:15] <wapityyy> thx anyways
[04:15] <wapityyy> for your time
[04:15] <xtknight> apparently it broke more than i thought
[04:16] <fiery_cleric> leslie: synaptic running?
[04:16] <Crazytom> leslie, what about it didn't work?  it didn't like your password
[04:16] <wapityyy> eh
[04:16] <wapityyy> thank you too Flannel
[04:16] <Crazytom> leslie, you have synaptic open... close it and then do that command
[04:17] <Crazytom> cara, have you seen this page?  search for bcm4310 on it http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[04:17] <leslie> crazytom, progress, now it says it can't find ndiswrapper
[04:18] <leslie> "couldn't find package ndiswrapper"
[04:18] <qatsi> im having issues with an nvidia card...instead of images, the monitor flashes like hell. can anyone help me please?
[04:19] <qatsi> im having issues with an nvidia card...instead of images, the monitor flashes like hell. can anyone help me please?
[04:19] <cara> Crazytom its the first B in the list lol
[04:19] <Jump86> I'm trying to share files on Edgy desktop w/ Vista and XP laptop through wireless network.. after sharing the file through SMB what else do I need to do? do i have to authenticate the laptop somehow?
[04:19] <Nachtengel> qatsi, which graphics drivers are you attempting to use?
[04:19] <ceeg_> How long does it usually take for Canonical to get back you when requesting a trademark license?
[04:20] <Crazytom> leslie, hmmm.. i'm not sure why you can't find it.  are you using edgy?
[04:20] <crimsun> ceeg_: "depends". It was the weekend, and it's not EU business hours yet.
[04:20] <leslie> crazytom, i don't know what edgy is.. i don't know jack crap about linux, first day
[04:21] <qatsi> Nachtengel: nv with an Nvidia GeForce 6200. When booting from liveCD, it did the same thing...should i try another driver? the propietary?
[04:21] <joshjosh> leslie, it's ubuntu version 6.10, it's just a code name
[04:21] <eodchop> What runs linux faster...Dual core say a 2.33 merom or a 3.0 p4?
[04:21] <joshjosh> eodchop, which distro?
[04:21] <Crazytom> leslie, did you install the beta or the stable version?
[04:21] <leslie> yeah, i'm sure that's what i have, lemme check
[04:21] <ceeg_> crimsun: canonical is baed out of eu? didnt know that. righto on the weekend though, should have known about that haha :) thanks
[04:22] <eodchop> Any, Ubuntu, Suse, Gentoo..
[04:22] <Nachtengel> it depends on what settings you'd like qatsi, trying for a new resolution? new card? new drivers?
[04:22] <corden> anybody familiar on how to play midi file in ubuntu? I already inatalled gstreamer but still it's not supported, tnx
[04:22] <peepsalot> can someone explain to me the difference between a shell and a console?
[04:22] <leslie> i downlaoded a stable.
[04:22] <fiery_cleric> !console
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <|NewUser|> i m going to install fiesty in my another machine..  but i dont have internet working on it.  i have this another machine with fiesty.. and updated with new kernel.. can anyhow i can transfer my updates with this pc? to another one? through cd/usb ? or direct cabling ?
[04:22] <fiery_cleric> !shell
[04:22] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:22] <qatsi> Nachtengel: new card, ive installed ubuntu with an ATI card, but now ive switched to nvidia to have dual monitors with beryl....
[04:22] <eodchop> I was curious how the kernel works with multiple threads..
[04:22] <kitche> peepsalot: console is though a fake terminal shell is what the console is really
[04:23] <kitche> peepsalot: like xterm is a console
[04:23] <eodchop> Peesalot: they are the same...
[04:23] <Nachtengel> ah, so that's a whole bunch of changes... ati-> nvidia, dual monitors and beryl
[04:23] <shine> are there any limitations to xterm compared to the terminal?
[04:23] <eodchop> Konsole is just a type of shell...Its the KDE version
[04:23] <xtknight> eodchop, multiple threads?  what do you mean?
[04:23] <Nachtengel> which one broke your xorg.conf file?
[04:23] <[BTF] Chm0d> what is the name of the app for gnome that looks like kiba-dock?
[04:24] <qatsi> Nachtengel: the nvidia card with the nv driver, even in livecd mode...
[04:24] <shine> what's the need for the existence of xterm?
[04:24] <bayziders> I have hfsplus installed but I dont see it in my applications menu how do I luanch it?
[04:24] <xtknight> if you cant get to gnome-terminal?
[04:24] <fiery_cleric> shine: its part of X windows
[04:24] <leslie> what's the command to see os version?
[04:24] <kitche> shine: it's X's console
[04:24] <xtknight> leslie,  lsb_release -a
[04:24] <kitche> leslie: lsb_version -a
[04:24] <shatrat> leslie, lsb_release -a
[04:24] <shatrat> I lose
[04:24] <eodchop> Can it manage more than one core at a time
[04:24] <joshjosh> what widgets/desklets is this in this screen shot? http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotvu8.jpg
[04:24] <qatsi> Nachtengel: im downloading the nvidia-glx driver, lets see if it works. What do you think?
[04:24] <xtknight> eodchop, the kernel? yes
[04:24] <eodchop> Yea,
[04:24] <xtknight> eodchop, get an SMP kernel which should be default in edgy and feisty i believe
[04:25] <arrow> I just installed ubuntu on a computer, when I turn it on and it comes to the log in screen the keyboard works, as soon as I log in niether the mouse nor the keyboard work
[04:25] <shine> but why did someone make a terminal emulator, I'm thinking that's what xterm is?
[04:25] <jake> i cannot seem to install ubuntu with my wireless keyboard/mouse plugged in. x server fails to start
[04:25] <leslie> crazytom, ye, i am using edgy
[04:25] <Nachtengel> shine, I like to keep my desktop manager open when I have to use command line commands... xterm is handy for that, other wise I'd have to switch from and to gdm each time I wanted to use an apt-get for example
[04:25] <eodchop> I found a couple..I wanted to try to compile an SMP..HAving trouble with the headers
[04:25] <xtknight> eodchop, what ubuntu are you using?
[04:25] <eodchop> 7.04 beta
[04:26] <eodchop> feisty...
[04:26] <xtknight> eodchop, type "cat /proc/cpuinfo" do you see two cpus
[04:26] <leslie> how do you log in as "root"?
[04:26] <bayziders> No one knows how to luanch hfsplus?
[04:26] <fiery_cleric> shine: terminal emulator emulates a terminal ie an old school keyboard and screen
[04:26] <xtknight> bayziders, maybe "dpkg -L hfsplus" will give you a clue
[04:26] <Crazytom> leslie, here http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fn%2Fndiswrapper%2Fndiswrapper-source_1.18-1ubuntu2_all.deb&md5sum=2c6d99915898f583bec330d8e97dcf87&arch=all&type=main
[04:26] <eodchop> Xeon 5600...
[04:27] <xtknight> eodchop, two blocks of data or just one?
[04:27] <eodchop> they are both dectect..
[04:27] <xtknight> eodchop, from cpuinfo
[04:27] <eodchop> two
[04:27] <xtknight> ok you have an SMP kernel
[04:27] <leslie> crazytom, hate to tell yah this, but i have been there
[04:27] <eodchop> ohhh..
[04:27] <bayziders> xtknight: it lists a whole much of locations
[04:27] <jake> does anyone have an idea why it would crash? i can't get the keyboard to work in suse, either. it works fine in windows.
[04:27] <xtknight> bayziders, type "man hpmount"
[04:28] <Crazytom> leslie, obviously not since that is a link to download ndiswrapper
[04:28] <arrow> Does anyone know why my keyboard would work when I am in the login screen and then stop working as soon as I got logged in?
[04:28] <leslie> crazytom, ok, nevermind, it wasn't corrupt that time. I tried all the links before, and all the active ones came up with a "corrupt" or access denied error
[04:28] <leslie> but yes, that worked.
[04:28] <fiery_cleric> arrow: does the desktop show up ? ie icons and panels?
[04:29] <leslie> so, with ndsiwrapper am i done?
[04:29] <Nachtengel> qatsi, the glx stuff works pretty well with my 6800
[04:29] <Crazytom> no
[04:29] <cara> hmm
[04:29] <leslie> ok, where do we back track to?
[04:29] <budluva_> has anyone here ever converted x264 to dvd?
[04:29] <bayziders> Whoa its telling me my hfs+ paritition is not hfs+ but gparted says it is
[04:29] <[BTF] Chm0d> what is the recommended launcher to use with gnome that looks like kiba-dock?
[04:29] <grondinm> hello i need some assistance in installing the driver for my nvidia gforce7900gtx i downloaded the driver from nvidia and it is a .run file...when i try to run it it says i must shutdown x server....since i am new to linux i am unsrue how to do that
[04:29] <xtknight> bayziders, how did you make that HFS+ partition?  also why use HFS+?
[04:29] <arrow> fiery_cleric, Yes, everything looks like it is going to work, and the mouse and keyboard don't, and I tried a usb mouse that can connect after the computer has already been turned on and that won't work either
[04:29] <bayziders> OS X86
[04:30] <qatsi> Nachtengel: what driver are you loading with your xorg.conf, the "nvidia" driver ?
[04:30] <xtknight> grondinm, sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[04:30] <xtknight> grondinm, it will kill your desktop, though
[04:30] <fiery_cleric> arrow: so you have also tried non-usb keyboard/mouse
[04:30] <Crazytom> leslie, this one too http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fn%2Fndiswrapper%2Fndiswrapper-common_1.18-1ubuntu2_all.deb&md5sum=3d9fe86fb30086a4eba9aec6a4f06ef7&arch=all&type=main
[04:30] <arrow> budluva: no, but I'd love to know how
[04:30] <|NewUser|> Crazytom:  i mtrying to install fiesty on dapper partition.. but on partitions tab when i select the partition for format And mount point / then it give me error in return " the information sector has the wrong signature (a0d7472). Select Cancel for now, and send in a bug report. if you're desperate, its probably safe to ignore. " what shoud i do ?
[04:30] <grondinm> xtknight: ok then i will be able to run the driver installe and how will i reboot?
[04:31] <arrow> fiery_cleric, yea, thats what I use normally
[04:31] <xtknight> grondinm, you reboot with ctrl alt DEL
[04:31] <xtknight> grondinm, but you dont need to reboot
[04:31] <xtknight> grondinm, sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start
[04:31] <xtknight> grondinm, to restart X server.
[04:31] <Crazytom> |NewUser|, why did you message me?
[04:31] <leslie> crazytom, ok, installed both
[04:31] <|NewUser|> Opps..
[04:31] <cara> ok this is getting annoying I've tried everything to get this wireless working..
[04:31] <fiery_cleric> arrow: so the mouse pointer wont move?
[04:31] <|NewUser|> sorry
[04:31] <grondinm> xtknight great thanks. so after i start it will be using new driver?
[04:31] <Crazytom> |NewUser|, did we talk earlier?
[04:32] <|NewUser|> yea
[04:32] <xtknight> grondinm, if you executed the NVIDIA installer, yes
[04:32] <bayziders> Now I am back to my first problem reformating it to a hfs+ paritition
[04:32] <fiery_cleric> arrow: but it does on the login screen?
[04:32] <arrow> fiery_cleric: nope, just stays in the middle of the screen
[04:32] <|NewUser|> i talked to ya before.
[04:32] <arrow> correct
[04:32] <cara> I've installed newer version of ndiswrapper, modprobed the driver from the dell website and I get those errors
[04:32] <grondinm> xtknight: and is theire anything else i should run befor starting X?
[04:32] <xtknight> bayziders, i wish i knew how to help you with that hfs+ but i dont.  it seems like since this is obscure they'd have some kind of documents on how to do this
[04:32] <|NewUser|> Crazytom: sorry if i did anything wrong
[04:32] <leslie> crazytom, ok, installed both.
[04:32] <fiery_cleric> arrow: does the ctrl-alt-f1 keys work ?
[04:33] <colbert> is there a way to see which BIOS version I have in ubuntu ?
[04:33] <Crazytom> |NewUser|, did we talk before?
[04:33] <|NewUser|> i m trying to install fiesty on dapper partition.. but on partitions tab when i select the partition for format And mount point / then it give me error in return " the information sector has the wrong signature (a0d7472). Select Cancel for now, and send in a bug report. if you're desperate, its probably safe to ignore. " what shoud i do ?
[04:33] <|NewUser|> Crazytom:  yes
[04:33] <xtknight> colbert, yes.  hold on
[04:33] <bayziders> I cant even find an app on google to do it with
[04:33] <xtknight> colbert, that might tell you.  " sudo lshw | strings | grep -A5 BIOS
[04:33] <xtknight> "
[04:33] <Nachtengel> qatsi, you still here?
[04:33] <joshjosh> |NewUser|, format the partition then install?
[04:33] <arrow> fiery_cleric: press them all at the same time?  I didn't try, but the when I hit caps the light on the keyboard doesn't change, same with numlock
[04:34] <Jump86> I'm trying to share files on Edgy desktop w/ Vista and XP laptop through wireless network.. after sharing the file through SMB what else do I need to do? do i have to authenticate the laptop somehow?
[04:34] <Crazytom> |NewUser|, oh ok i was just wondering why you choose me.  delete the partions you don't want and then format one as ext3 with the majority of your drive and then use the rest ~1 gig as swap
[04:34] <fenris> hi
[04:34] <xtknight> bayziders, have you followed this?
 colbert, that might tell you.  " sudo lshw | string
[04:34] <xtknight> errrrrrrrr
[04:34] <|NewUser|> Crazytom: okie thanks.
[04:34] <Nachtengel> Jump, are you mapping a network drive from your XP machine to your ubuntu box?
[04:34] <fiery_cleric> arrow: yeah it should take u to a text console .... ctrl-alt-f7 should take u back to the GUI
[04:34] <Jump86> fenris, hello
[04:34] <xtknight> bayziders, have you followed this?  http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Install_On_A_Partition_Simple_And_Accurate
[04:34] <colbert> xtknight: that worked perfect, thanks !!
[04:34] <|NewUser|> joshjosh:  thanks. u too.
[04:34] <Crazytom> leslie, i'm not sure exaclty how many of these packages you need, i'm looking now
[04:34] <sword_> how can i play dvd in ubuntu?
[04:34] <qatsi> Nachtengel: yes, i think the nvidia-glx driver worked.,...
[04:35] <fenris> how can i determine which ubuntu version is installed on a file system? without booting it?
[04:35] <joshjosh> |NewUser|, ?
[04:35] <fiery_cleric> arrow: just finding out if the whole PC is locked once u login ... or just the input isnot going
[04:35] <arrow> fiery_cleric, thanks I'll try that
[04:35] <Jump86> Nachtengel, no, do I need to do that?
[04:35] <Crazytom> leslie install this too http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fn%2Fndiswrapper%2Fndiswrapper-utils-1.8_1.18-1ubuntu2_i386.deb&md5sum=6ba955830847e6e20282291ff124b34d&arch=i386&type=main
[04:36] <Crazytom> btw i'm sorry if anyone thinks i'm flooding. i know those links are superlong
[04:36] <xtknight> bayziders, i dont think you even need an HFS+ partition made.  the disk image osx86 provides will do that for you
[04:36] <gortba> Hi. Does anyone know what file firefox writes book marks in?
[04:36] <Nachtengel> depends on how you're trying to access the files off your ubuntu box, but that would be an easy way to have access to your SMB shares
[04:36] <sword_> m new to ubuntu...does anyone here knows how i can play a DVD???
[04:36] <|NewUser|> joshjosh: nothing.. i just delete it and make new partition.
[04:36] <shawn34> can anyone pleeeese help me with my wifi? drivers installed, iwconfig can see my card but i can't enable it
[04:36] <Nachtengel> that's good qatsi, have your resolution & dual monitors?
[04:36] <shatrat> gortba, if youre trying to copy your settings i believe there is an export function to export firefox profiles
[04:36] <arrow> fiery_cleric: I'm pretty sure its just the input, I hit alt-ctrl-backspace and got nothing, no fan speed change or anything
[04:36] <xtknight> gortba, "find /home/$USER/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks*"
[04:37] <joshjosh> |NewUser|, back up your home folder
[04:37] <fiery_cleric> gortba: ~/.mozilla/firefox/random_name/bookmarks.html
[04:37] <xtknight> plus feisty's installer has Profie importing
[04:37] <xtknight> maybe thatll do it
[04:37] <leslie> crazytom, ok done that too
[04:37] <grondinm> xtknight that does not work
[04:37] <gortba> thanks guys. I'm ssh ing to my computer at home and I have a bookmarked page that I want to get the address of.
[04:37] <qatsi> Nachtengel: nope, im working on that....maybe 10 or 15 minutes with beryl running on dual screen :)
[04:38] <|NewUser|> joshjosh:  thanks for advice :)
[04:38] <Nachtengel> well hold off on the beryl until you get the dual montiors & resolution you want
[04:38] <xtknight> grondinm, did you install nvidia ?  "sudo sh NVIDIA...run"?
[04:38] <shawn34> can anyone pleeeese help me with my wifi? drivers installed, iwconfig can see my card but i can't enable it
[04:38] <Flying-Penguin> Hey guys
[04:38] <xtknight> !hi
[04:38] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:38] <Nachtengel> then save your xorg.conf file as a backup, say xorg.conf.bak04152007 or something like that
[04:38] <qatsi> Nachtengel: yes, first the normal setup, then the eye candy :)
[04:38] <fiery_cleric> arrow: i dont know if control-alt-backspace (which should reset X windows) is not going the computer could be locked up.... do you see the clock changing minutes on the desktop :)
[04:38] <qatsi> Nachtengel: ok, thanks for the tip...
[04:38] <grondinm> when i put in sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop and it does not do anything
[04:38] <Nachtengel> then try & add the beryl, that way you have a way to gracefully back out if it doesn't work
[04:39] <xtknight> Use Alt+SysRq+K to kill all processes if CtrlAltBackspace doesn't work.
[04:39] <xtknight> if your kernel has magic sysrq key compiled in(feisty's does dunno about edgy)
[04:39] <arrow> fiery_cleric, I'll have to look into it further, thanks for the help
[04:39] <raj> Hello All, I bought a new compan V6211AU laptop, I downloaded ubunto 6.10 iso for AMD 64 bit dual core and tried to install.. But it gets stuck in the initial screen.. Anybosy can help me?
[04:39] <xtknight> grondinm, try gdm stop instead of ?dm stop i suppose
[04:39] <tjl30> does anyone know a good FTP client
[04:39] <Flying-Penguin> I am having a few problems whith my new ubuntu install. Firstly, my Xchat does not work right. it connects to this server but everything after that lags out... I am using a Terminal baced IRC atm
[04:39] <xtknight> !ftp
[04:39] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[04:40] <xtknight> i like nautlius for ftp
[04:40] <grondinm> ok
[04:40] <xtknight> !nautilus
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <grondinm> xtknight thanx for your help...here i go
[04:40] <xtknight> w/e, nautilus is just your normal file browser
[04:40] <xtknight> grondinm, good luck youll need it
[04:40] <peepsalot> what would be a disadvantage of a low-latency kernel?
[04:40] <leslie> crazytom, bit tedious eh?
[04:40] <grondinm> xtknight y is that?
[04:40] <raj> Hello All, I bought a new compan V6211AU laptop, I downloaded ubunto 6.10 iso for AMD 64 bit dual core and tried to install.. But it gets stuck in the initial screen.. Anybosy can help me?
[04:40] <xtknight> peepsalot, i think it executes cmds slower sinec it has to process everything in realtime
[04:40] <Nachtengel> raj, what kind of hard drive are you trying to install to?
[04:41] <Centaur5> Are there any projects developing a gui for multiple displays on intel chipsets?
[04:41] <raj> Nachtengel, SATA 120 GB drive
[04:41] <peepsalot> i neve understood that, what does it mean to run in realtime.  is my kernel running in fake time right now?
[04:41] <phr0z3n> weill 7.04 hae more themes for gnome?
[04:41] <xtknight> peepsalot, for example if it is executing Process 1 and process 2 interjects, it preempts and stops process 1 from executing.  in a normal kernel process 1 would probably still be going.  it's completely fair so every process gets their instructions executed immediately but everything goes slower too
[04:41] <xtknight> 1000hz!=realtime, lowlatency!=realtime
[04:42] <xtknight> only ingo molnar's patches are true realtime
[04:42] <leslie> when trying to uninstall modules i get an access denied... why is that?
[04:42] <xtknight> peepsalot, realtime just means "immediate"
[04:43] <xtknight> peepsalot, so yours isnt fake time it's just not quite immediate ( 0 ms) all the time
[04:43] <Crazytom> leslie, do you have a windows install with the drivers on it?  or the cd that came with the card?
[04:43] <xtknight> realtime kernels are mostly needed for embedded devices where timing can be critical.  though some dont even use linux anyway.
[04:43] <grondinm> xtknight sorry about this but here is what i get when i run the command you gave me....
[04:43] <xtknight> grondinm, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:43] <grondinm> sudo: /ect/init.d/gdm: command not found
[04:43] <xtknight> oh
[04:43] <Nachtengel> which version are you trying install Raj, some of the older versions have had some issues installing straight to a SATA drive
[04:43] <xtknight>  /etc/ not /ect/
[04:43] <Crazytom> cara, any luck?
[04:43] <Jump86> I'm trying to watch movies from one computer using another through wireless.. i can play through totem but not vlc or mplayer.... what could be the problem? tried w/ both SSH and SMB and everything defauts to totem, which works, but i hate totem and want to use VLC / Mplayer
[04:43] <leslie> it's integrated into my pc.. i didn't buy it separate... and windows always detected it fine
[04:44] <grondinm> oooops now i feel stupid
[04:44] <xjkx> whats that ubuntu that comes with gnome?
[04:44] <xtknight> xjkx, Ubuntu... ;)
[04:44] <xtknight> kubuntu=kde, xubuntu=xfce
[04:44] <leslie> i have the drivers downloaded by madwifi, but i can't get them to isntall
[04:44] <xjkx> lol
[04:44] <leslie> i get a train of errors
[04:44] <tarelerulz> any of use an ipblocker ?
[04:44] <xjkx> sorry, must be the newbiest question ever
[04:44] <xtknight> haha
[04:44] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: its coz totem can use those filesystems but the other players cant
[04:44] <xtknight> it was funny though ;P
[04:44] <raj> Nachtengel, I am trying to install ubunto 6.10 for 64 bit desktops
[04:44] <xjkx> xD
[04:44] <xtknight> what does Edubuntu use?
[04:44] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, any fix for it?
[04:44] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: you need to mount the remote directory to use those players
[04:45] <Nachtengel> if I remember right, Raj, I had to use the alternate install CD to install amd64 on a SATA drive
[04:45] <Nachtengel> there's some kind of bug in the graphical installer on the liveCD
[04:45] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, ah ok how do i do that? just like sudo mount /remove/loc /media/folder?
[04:45] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: smbmount or mount //computer_name/share  /mymountpoint
[04:45] <redwyrm> do linux drivers exist for Dynex webcams?
[04:45] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, thank you!
[04:46] <Crazytom> leslie, you did ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf?
[04:46] <Flying-Penguin> ahh.. much better, got xchat to work
[04:46] <xtknight> any idea how i can use my second monitor while playing a game on my first?  UT2004 locks my mouse into the first display only.  I am on separate X screen mode.
[04:46] <leslie> what? rofl
[04:47] <leslie> is that a terminal command too?
[04:47] <raj> Nachtengel, can you please explain me more? Do you have a URL to download that image?
[04:47] <Crazytom> how did you install the driver?
[04:47] <Nachtengel> if you're mounting from the ubuntu side Jump, the command: mount -t smb /location/of/share /location/to/mount   works just fine
[04:47] <leslie> it's got makefiles in a directory, the way the website told me to "install" it
[04:47] <Crazytom> leslie, yes that's a terminal command, how were you trying to do it?
[04:47] <leslie> using make unisntal, make, and make install
[04:47] <leslie> uninstall*
[04:47] <Flying-Penguin> I am having a problem with wireless, None of my wireless Gui managers are detecting my wireless card, except one that requires me to run it as root anyways (from term)
[04:47] <Nachtengel> hang on a sec Raj, I'll get you a link..
[04:48] <Flying-Penguin> However, they used to work.. befor I updated my client
[04:48] <Crazytom> Flying-Penguin, what chipset do you have?
[04:48] <leslie> hahah
[04:48] <GueNz> Hola alguien habla espaol?
[04:48] <leslie> i will laugh if he has same problem
[04:48] <GueNz> Hola alguien habla espaol?
[04:48] <Crazytom> leslie, just do sudo ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf
[04:49] <Crazytom> !es
[04:49] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:49] <Flying-Penguin> Crazytom, I am unsure.. this is a brand new laptop, let me check?
[04:49] <Nachtengel> raj, here you go: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[04:49] <leslie> crazytom, any required directories have to be open for that command?
[04:50] <orangey> hey all!
[04:50] <Crazytom> leslie, no
[04:50] <orangey> I thought Feisty was supposed to be out today.. no?
[04:50] <cara> so no one can help me?
[04:50] <drew> hey, 7.04 release is later this week?
[04:50] <joshjosh> orangey, 19th, and it's most likely delayed
[04:50] <guero> could someone help me configure my firefox to play movies online? i'm able to play msmedia type files but not anything else
[04:51] <orangey> joshjosh: does that mean I can try to sneak some bug fixes into the kernel?
[04:51] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, ok i tried what you recommended but i tells me mount: wrong fs type, bad option bad superblock
[04:51] <joshjosh> orangey, frozen
[04:51] <orangey> joshjosh: doh : )
[04:51] <raj> Nachtengel, thanks.. can you tell me how is the driver support in this version? I mean like WLAN, bluetooth, NVidia graphics driver etc.. Is there webpage to check the driver support?
[04:51] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, it's an NTFS drive but i have NTFS support on both machines
[04:51] <orangey> raj: in feisty?
[04:52] <joshjosh> frozen on the 5th i do believe
[04:52] <orangey> joshjosh: That's for new bugs.
[04:52] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: mount -t smbfs //computer_name/share /mountpoint ?
[04:52] <drew1313> Feisty rocks
[04:53] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, same error
[04:53] <raj> orangey: feisty means? sorry, I never heard about it yet..
[04:53] <kitche> !feisty | raj
[04:53] <ubotu> raj: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:53] <orangey> raj: It's the newest version of Ubuntu, scheduled for release next week.
[04:53] <Parabola> great, wonder how that upgrades going to go
[04:53] <orangey> raj: I assumed you were talking about it for driver support.
[04:53] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: how bout smbmount //comp_name/share /mountpoint
[04:54] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, smbmount doesnt appear to be valid command for me
[04:54] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: ok
[04:54] <sword_> can someone tell me how i can play dvd on ubuntu?
[04:54] <qatsi> anyone here using nvidia with twinview?
[04:54] <fiery_cleric> !smbfs
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, tried -t ntfs and now it says "special device //ben-desktop/TV doesnt exist
[04:55] <root__> /server irc.cariri.org
[04:55] <root__> /server irc.cariri.org
[04:55] <raj> orangey: yes, I downloaded 6.10 and I wanted to know about the driver support in it.. anyway I will look at feisty and see what it offers.. thanks
[04:55] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: ntfs doesnt matter for now
[04:55] <orangey> raj: If you don't have crazy experience with Ubuntu, I advise holding off of Feisty for at least 2-3 more weeks.
[04:55] <ceeg_> hm. how would i generate entropy on a server im talking to via ssh?
[04:55] <sword_> anyone here knows what software is required to play DVD movies?
[04:55] <orangey> (until the rest of us fall into the bugs and fix them)
[04:55] <root__> /connect irc
[04:55] <qatsi> Nachtengel: twinview isnt working
[04:56] <Parabola> sword use vlc
[04:56] <orangey> raj: for most systems >6 months old, edgy is peachy
[04:56] <Parabola> !vlc
[04:56] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:56] <NickGarvey> root__: root + irc = bad idea
[04:56] <sword_> vlc doesn't play dvd on its own
[04:56] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: can u install a package called smbfs?
[04:56] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, sure
[04:56] <Parabola> sword you need libdvdcss
[04:56] <Parabola> or somthing like that
[04:56] <Crazytom> sword_, you will also probably need livdvdcss2
[04:56] <Parabola> yeah thats it
[04:56] <Crazytom> sword_, you will also probably need libdvdcss2*
[04:56] <Flying-Penguin> Crazytom: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g)
[04:56] <sword_> thanx parabola and crazytom!!
[04:57] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, ok now when i try to mount it says sesstion setup failed, errornoaccess access denied
[04:57] <Crazytom> Flying-Penguin, did you use ndiswrapper last time?
[04:58] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: ok ... so are the shares password protected
[04:58] <Flying-Penguin> Crazytom: I don't think so ><
[04:58] <raj> orangey: but edgy is not installing in my band new compaq V6211AU laptop.. I have dual core AMD 64 bit processors..
[04:58] <foxiness> is there a ubuntu package for Scribes?
[04:58] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, not that I know of.. i just right clicked the folder in nautilus and picked to share with SMB.. it didnt appear to have any options to set a password etc
[04:58] <Crazytom> Flying-Penguin, what client update are you speaking of?
[04:58] <qatsi> Nachtengel: forget it, now i have dual monitors with direct rendering...ill go ahead with beryl...
[04:58] <LordLimeca1> im possibly going to lose it here, how do you install aiglx?  Every google hit is how to install beryl, NOT aiglx
[04:59] <leslie> crazytom, i can't find that driver in an inf form anywhere... is that how linux drivers come? inf? if so I don't have it
[04:59] <orangey> raj: which version are you trying? The Desktop? the 64?
[04:59] <peepsalot> how troublesome is it to swap mobo/cpu/ram on an Ubuntu install?  basically, keep the storage and change the rest of the hardware.  can that cause problems with the install?
[04:59] <Crazytom> leslie, what is the filename?
[04:59] <orangey> raj: I don't think it's advisable to install the 64-bit version today.
[04:59] <Madpilot> foxiness, you mean scribus?
[04:59] <Crazytom> leslie, bcmwl5?
[04:59] <orangey> raj: In any case, if it's really a pain in the bum, then sure, go for Feisty.
[04:59] <Flying-Penguin> Crazytom: I had ran a fress install for ubuntu 6.10, I then ran the full update via the apt-get update manager
[04:59] <leslie> i have a bunch of odd file types, and an asston of subfolders
[05:00] <Flying-Penguin> Fresh*
[05:00] <leslie> i'm not sure what is what
[05:00] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: so both computers are running ubuntu
[05:00] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, thats correct and both have the same user name
[05:00] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, and both on same router.. id's 100 and 101
[05:00] <foxiness> !info scribes
[05:00] <ubotu> Package scribes does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:00] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, err IPs..
[05:00] <Jeeves_Moss> can someone give me a hand with a compaqu server install?
[05:01] <raj> orangey: I tried both desktop and 64 bit version..both are nort eorking
[05:01] <Crazytom> Flying-Penguin, ok do this for me if your interface is eth1 then  sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[05:01] <foxiness> Madpilot, no  http://scribes.sourceforge.net/download.html
[05:01] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: try mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test ... replacing the username password mount points etc
[05:01] <kitche> !info scribes
[05:01] <ubotu> Package scribes does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:02] <annibislee> nickserv regiser help
[05:02] <dr_willis> you maen scribus ?
[05:02] <Madpilot> foxiness, doesn't look like it's been packaged for Ubuntu yet - what is it?
[05:02] <sckain> hi
[05:02] <comhack> here is the fix
[05:02] <testure> hey, i've been hearing a lot of hype about fiesty fawn, and i'm thinking about installing it to give linux a serious chance.. can anybody tell me if some of the apps I use in windows work somehow in ubuntu?
[05:02] <graphikz> How do I see available wireless networks and choose which one I want to connect to?
[05:02] <comhack> echo options snd-hda-intel model=auto|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[05:02] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, same error about access denied
[05:03] <comhack> rebooting now
[05:03] <foxiness> Madpilot,  "Simple, slim and sleek, yet powerful" http://scribes.sourceforge.net/features.html
[05:03] <sckain> testure, I made the switch a month ago, i've had no problems
[05:03] <kitche> testure: depends but wine
[05:03] <Nachtengel> testure, you should look up information on WINE, it can run most windows apps within linux
[05:03] <Madpilot> testure, the actual apps likely won't, but different apps doing the same thing probably exist
[05:03] <testure> i'm a graphic artist, so I use things like XSI, ZBrush, Photoshop.. wondering if there's a way to get those programs working in ubuntu
[05:03] <Crazytom> graphikz, what chipset are you using?  to find out use ls pci -v
[05:03] <Madpilot> foxiness, um, slim and sleek, sure, but what does it DO?
[05:03] <foxiness> Madpilot, something act like textmate
[05:03] <testure> Nacht: I've read some stuff on Wine, but I hear the emulation is sloppy and doesn't always work well.. I use these apps for work-related stuff so if wine dies in the middle of something I'm in trouble :)
[05:03] <sckain> take a look at WINE or crossover office
[05:03] <Flying-Penguin> Crazytom: http://rafb.net/p/5A0eaL43.html (sorry it took so long, had to find a good paste bin)
[05:03] <leslie> crazytom, i have a bunch of odd file types, and an asston of subfolders
[05:04] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: i am using dapper so it might be different but go into system->administration->shared folders .... and make sure the shares u want to access can be accessed by anyone (guest)
[05:04] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, and just an fyi, the smb share is detected under "connect to server" etc with no problems
[05:04] <Madpilot> foxiness, oh, it's a text editor? There's lots of those in Ubuntu's repos
[05:04] <sword_> where can u find libdvdcss2??
[05:04] <Nachtengel> astroturf much testure ;)
[05:04] <graphikz> ls: pci: No such file or directory
[05:04] <sckain> the Oriley "Ubuntu Hacks"book has a walk through of phtoshop install
[05:04] <testure> I didn't know if there was something more along the lines of parallels (but for linux) that works better.. or if WINE is indeed stable and I've just been hearing bogus info
[05:04] <kitche> !info libdvdcss2
[05:04] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: u maybe able to mount it using nautlilus using right click on share ... dont know
[05:04] <ubotu> libdvdcss2: Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4 (edgy-seveas), package size 33 kB, installed size 112 kB
[05:04] <kitche> sword_:  ^_^
[05:04] <greg_g> if you have a 20 gig and a 320 gig hard drive set up, the best option would be to make a 10 gig "/", 9 gig "/home", and a 1 gig "/swap" and then format the 320 for all other files (large files), right?
[05:05] <foxiness> Madpilot, but not a lot help you when you try to find a RubyonRails editor
[05:05] <dr_willis> testure,  wine can work very well.. depends on what you are wanting to run with it however.
[05:05] <Arianna> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2457649#post2457649
[05:05] <graphikz> foxiness, Eclipse should work, RadRails
[05:05] <Crazytom> Flying-Penguin, ok do this sudo iwconfig eth1 key yourkeyhere
[05:05] <sword_> but where is it in the synaptic package?
[05:05] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, no i can share this way too .. and it doesnt appear to have any options about access by anyone
[05:05] <kitche> foxiness: for rubyonrails just grab rubyonrails package
[05:05] <Crazytom> Flying-Penguin, then do sudo iwconfig eth1 ap 00:17:31:FB:25:DD
[05:05] <Flying-Penguin> Crazytom: by key.. what key do you mean?
[05:05] <testure> unfortunately the apps I use are pretty intense.. Softimage XSI, Photoshop CS3, ZBrush (mostly 3D applications capable of displaying over 1mil polys)
[05:05] <Crazytom> Flying-Penguin, your wep key
[05:06] <YNWA> Does anyone know how to get a U3 USB drive to work?
[05:06] <Crazytom> Flying-Penguin, then sudo dhclient
[05:06] <testure> Just getting tired of windows :)
[05:06] <sckain> Is anyone aware of a GUI program to manage bluetooth connections i.e. keyboard or mouse. I dont want to go CLI to connect a mouse every time i want to use it
[05:06] <graphikz> How do I see available wireless networks and choose which one I want to connect to?
[05:06] <kitche> sckain: hmm not for gnome
[05:06] <peepsalot> should I expect any problems if I switch out my motherboard and processor on an existing Ubunut installation
[05:06] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: does smbclient -L //my_computer work?
[05:06] <sckain> kitche, is Kde a possibility
[05:06] <graphikz> If someone, knows, could they PM me instead of talking here (too crowded).
[05:06] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, wai ti think i got something! i tried putting thwe psd at the end of the command
[05:07] <kitche> sckain: yep kde has a bluetooth addon
[05:07] <Crazytom> graphikz, what chipset are you using?  to find out use ls pci -v  i am trying to help you but i do need a response
[05:07] <Nachtengel> peepsalot, changing your processor type?
[05:07] <graphikz> ls: pci: No such file or directory
[05:07] <graphikz> I get that.
[05:07] <Flying-Penguin> Crazytom: I am already connected via wireless, what I want is for my GUI apps to be able to access the wireless card (my GUI wireless manager apps)
[05:07] <sckain> hmmmm
[05:07] <kitche> graphikz: lspci is one word
[05:07] <Crazytom> Flying-Penguin, ok that's what i was trying to find out
[05:07] <leslie> crazytom, i don't know where the file is, or what it's called. It seems i have a bounch of source files, i can't find an inf file anywhere
[05:07] <YNWA> ... anyone?
[05:07] <Flying-Penguin> Crazytom: ok
[05:07] <Crazytom> kitche, thanks i'm not sure why i messed that up
[05:07] <sckain> befoer i begin a flame war or ask a "stupid question" I should be able to install in in gnome right?
[05:07] <peepsalot> Nachtengel, it would still be x86 technically.  upgrading AMD Athlon -> Intel Core2 Duo
[05:07] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, wait nm i guess that didnt work either, ill try what you said
[05:08] <sckain> i'll just loose the "eye candy"
[05:08] <graphikz> Intel chipset
[05:08] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, nope says login failure
[05:08] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: its smbclient -L hostname_of_other_ubuntu
[05:08] <graphikz> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03)
[05:08] <Crazytom> leslie, find your wireless card here and they will probably have a link to the file you need
[05:08] <Crazytom> leslie, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[05:08] <YNWA> Does anyone know how to get a U3 USB drive to work?
[05:08] <fiery_cleric> ok
[05:09] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, if i try it without the // it says connection to desktop-ben failed
[05:09] <tbuss> is there a way to check to see what ports are open, something like iptables ?
[05:09] <dibblego> debian has filesystem encryption out of the box, does ubuntu have any similar plans?
[05:10] <graphikz> tbuss, System -> Administration -> Network Tools
[05:10] <Crazytom> graphikz, are you sure that's your wireless card?  btw have you installed ndiswrapper?
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> dibblego: Likely in the October '07 release it will be supported in the installer, if it's not for Feisty (haven't looked)
[05:10] <sckain> kitche, do you know the name of the KDE software for bluetooth
[05:10] <kitche> sckain: kdebluez I think
[05:10] <dibblego> tonyyarusso, what software is used for it? can I set it up now?
[05:10] <graphikz> I have not install ndiswrapper, and my wireless card is a D-LINK AirPremier DWL-AG660
[05:10] <graphikz> not yet*
[05:10] <larson9999> the mac/pc add with the bloat is funny
[05:10] <SeveredHead> sckain: What do you mean install in in gnome?
[05:10] <sckain> thanks for the help I really appriciate it, have a good one
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> dibblego: crypt partman something or other?  lol, bad memory kicking in now.
[05:11] <larson9999> i think he's a dell
[05:11] <dc> fuck i just came here for something and i forgot what it was
[05:11] <foxiness> graphikz, i c eclipse is nice and have a lot but not and editor "real editor" its act like a framework
[05:11] <Crazytom> Flying-Penguin, try this sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[05:11] <kitche> !ohmy | dc
[05:11] <ubotu> dc: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:11] <graphikz> foxiness, I also do not care for eclipse =D
[05:11] <dc> kitche: my bad] 
[05:11] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: are u using the username password of the remote user when using the mount commands
[05:11] <Flying-Penguin> Crazytom: http://rafb.net/p/QN5mAE90.html
[05:11] <Crazytom> graphikz, do this please lspci -v | grep Wireless
[05:12] <dc> Is there any way to interface with another users shared itunes music?
[05:12] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, yep and if i put the pswd at the end of a mount command it gives me the manual output of mount
[05:12] <graphikz> Subsystem: D-Link System Inc D-Link AirPremier DWL-AG660 Wireless Cardbus Adapter
[05:12] <Flying-Penguin> Crazytom: I already have that installed
[05:12] <graphikz> Exactly as I said =)
[05:12] <YNWA> Does anyone know how to get a U3 USB drive to work?
[05:12] <graphikz> Crazytom, could we take this to PM, this channel it too crowded
[05:12] <foxiness> graphikz, i think i read about vim plugin for eclipse
[05:13] <Crazytom> all the wireless folks can move to #ubuntuwireless i'm already there too
[05:13] <tbuss> graphikz: if port 80 is open shouldn't I be able to connect to my server from outside my lan
[05:13] <dc> YNWA: did you try formatting it?
[05:13] <gnychis> whats the default burning application to burn an .iso in ubuntu?
[05:13] <dc> gnychis: right click on the iso, click make disk
[05:13] <dc> gnychis: or something of that nature
[05:13] <dibblego> tonyyarusso, PartmanCrypto? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/PartmanCrypto
[05:13] <graphikz> tbuss, yes, if apache is running.
[05:13] <kitche> tbuss: some ISP's block port 80 incoming
[05:13] <tbuss> graphikz: it is
[05:13] <graphikz> Mine blocks it by default, check with your ISP
[05:13] <YNWA> dc: what I mean is for the the U3 programme to work
[05:13] <tbuss> kitche: I should add :80 to ip?
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> dibblego: Looks right.  It can be done on Ubuntu later, it's just not in the installer as of Edgy.
[05:14] <Crazytom> graphikz, Flying-Penguin please join #ubuntuwireless
[05:14] <graphikz> foxiness, I do not like the program in general, for 1) I don't like Java 2) It's environment is way too crowded for my taste
[05:14] <dc> YNWA: didnt know
[05:14] <dc> YNWA: *dont know sorry
[05:14] <dibblego> tonyyarusso, ok thanks
[05:14] <onaicul> where do newbies go for help?
[05:14] <IGxMyzt> hi
[05:14] <kitche> tbuss: you might not be able to get to port 80 at all depends on your ISP
[05:14] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: yeah it probably means that u have the command line wrong ... its mount -t smbfs -o username=<remote_username>,password=<remote_password> //comp_name/share /mymountpoint ... where u replace <remote_username> <remote_password> with the username / password of the remote user
[05:14] <dc> onaicul: what can i held you with,
[05:14] <IGxMyzt> i have a problem installing 6.10
[05:14] <YNWA> dc: no probs
[05:14] <dr_willis> onaicul,  depends on the exact issue to some degree.
[05:15] <onaicul> upon boot..acpi issues
[05:15] <dc> YNWA: good luck
[05:15] <onaicul> i think it's the graphics card
[05:15] <YNWA> it's not a common software for your USB as far as I know
[05:15] <onaicul> it's a dell
[05:15] <dc> onaicul: do you have aim?
[05:15] <YNWA> *usb drive
[05:15] <onaicul> na
[05:15] <foxiness> graphikz, but this what it come to my hand its easy to learn and use vs vim on other side "spend some con on mac will fix this"
[05:15] <dc> onaicul: well, elaborate on the problem thenm
[05:15] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i tell what version of ubuntu i am running?
[05:15] <ardchoille> Comrade-Sergei: lsb_release -a
[05:16] <Comrade-Sergei> ty
[05:16] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, yeah i tried that one too.. did it again to be 100% certain i used the right commands.. it says 6680: Connection to desktop-ben failed SMB connection failed
[05:16] <tbuss> kitche: comcast, I'll have to check tomorrow
[05:16] <graphikz> foxiness, I like EXTREMELY simple IDEs, on my PC I use VS and e-texteditor (only VS for ASP.NET and C#)
[05:16] <qatsi> Nachtengel: it works great!!!!!
[05:16] <graphikz> I just bought a mac and I will be using TextMate on that
[05:16] <Jeeves_Moss> does anyone know of the URL for the net install for Ubuntu server?
[05:16] <Comrade-Sergei> ardchoille ok it still says breezy and there is no "new version" thingy in gksudo update
[05:17] <qatsi> Nachtengel: at last i have dual monitors with beryl....ati sucks big time with drivers...though i have to admit, the card is great...
[05:17] <ardchoille> Comrade-Sergei: Yu trying to upgrade to Dapper?
[05:17] <YNWA> Does anyone know how to get a U3 USB drive to work?
[05:17] <Comrade-Sergei> ardchoille yes!
[05:17] <ardchoille> !upgrade | Comrade-Sergei
[05:17] <ubotu> Comrade-Sergei: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:17] <arrenlex> qatsi: What's the point of a good card you can't use?
[05:17] <dc> Is there any way to interface with another users shared itunes music?
[05:17] <Flannel> Comrade-Sergei: breezy?  Do you have breezy-updates repositories?
[05:18] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: but before u where getting no access errors , which mean it was connecting...?
[05:18] <Jeeves_Moss> arrenlex:  what's the point of a decient server when you try to upgrade, and the newest version of the server dosn't see the RAID controller?
[05:18] <IGxMyzt> I need help installing 6.10. It says Server X graphics cant be loaded.
[05:18] <fiery_cleric> were
[05:18] <dougb> does anyone know of a good C dev environment?
[05:18] <dougb> i've use anjuta, but i didn't like it that much
[05:18] <fiery_cleric> dougb: eclipse?
[05:19] <YNWA> okay, maybe another day... anyway, another question: why does my firefox get stuck on "looking up ____________.com" for a long, LONG time?
[05:19] <foxiness> graphikz, can e work on linux with wine?
[05:19] <YNWA> longer than on windows, anyway
[05:19] <waldo> Damn, just installed fiesty beta and get "GRUB" when starting up
[05:19] <dougb> fiery_cleric: isn't eclipse a java IDE?
[05:19] <Comrade-Sergei> Flannel i have no idea what is the name of it?
[05:19] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, i get the same error if i intentionally mess up the password, username and hostname/remoteloc
[05:19] <graphikz> foxiness, Have not tried, do you use it?
[05:19] <Flannel> Comrade-Sergei: pastebin your sources.list
[05:19] <IGxMyzt> CAN ANYON ANSWER ME?
[05:19] <Jeeves_Moss> flannel:  hey guy, long time no chat.
[05:20] <Comrade-Sergei> Flannel ok im a noob and cant remember the command to do that...
[05:20] <YNWA> ..........? Help, please...?
[05:20] <foxiness> graphikz, no but google point me on the right dir :) http://www.e-texteditor.com/
[05:20] <Flannel> IGxMyzt: When does it say that?
[05:20] <Flannel> Comrade-Sergei: open /etc/apt/sources.list and copy/paste it to pastebin, the URL of which is in the topic
[05:20] <IGxMyzt> when i click the first option (install)
[05:20] <graphikz> foxiness, wanna just PM?
[05:21] <IGxMyzt> right after it does fsck
[05:21] <|NewUser|> i just  install clean fiesty in my  machine..  but i dont have internet working on it.  i have updated fiesty with new kernel in another machine. can anyhow i can transfer my updates with this pc? to another one? through cd/usb ? or direct cabling ?
[05:21] <YNWA> ........ :(
[05:21] <foxiness> graphikz, k
[05:21] <Flannel> !ipv6 | YNWA
[05:21] <ubotu> YNWA: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:21] <YNWA> thanks
[05:21] <Comrade-Sergei> !pastebin
[05:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:21] <dc> |NewUser|: did you try setting up a network between the two using a crossover?
[05:21] <vexati0n> jesus christ. did MS make the Windows installer completely retarded on purpose?
[05:21] <qatsi> arrenlex: i agree with you, but it will come a day when ati cards have fine free drivers...i have hope in amd
[05:22] <LordLimeca1> vexation, in what way?
[05:22] <ardchoille> vexati0n: s/Windows installer/Windows/
[05:22] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, ok sorry i had the hostname entered wrong.. i fixed that and now its back to access denied, even with the password entered correctly
[05:22] <dc> yo
[05:22] <Comrade-Sergei> Flannel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15898/
[05:22] <IGxMyzt> anyone?
[05:22] <vexati0n> LordLimeca1, just it randomly not recognizing the same disc it was just running off of, unable to find scsi disks, etc etc
[05:23] <ubuntuEdgy> guys i know you can help me .what dose this command do ?     grep -q "pts/.*still logged in"
[05:23] <wastrel> "ubuntu"
[05:23] <LordLimeca1> ah...
[05:23] <Falstius> vexati0n: oh ... that's the least of its retardness.
[05:23] <LordLimeca1> you ever try editing the install disk?
[05:23] <|NewUser|> dc: i can ping my another machine.
[05:23] <Flannel> IGxMyzt: Use the alternate CD
[05:23] <colbert> anyone here using lm-sensors? I have temp1 and temp2 being shown on panel, they work fine but which is mobo and which is CPU ???
[05:23] <LordLimeca1> ie, adding mass storage drivers, removing sfc, etc?
[05:23] <dc> |NewUser|: so make a network between the two
[05:23] <ubuntuEdgy> guys?
[05:23] <vexati0n> also its total ineptitude at dealing with disk partitions and lack of options
[05:23] <IGxMyzt> Flannel: will ubuntu 6.10 work with an ATI Radeon card?
[05:24] <LordLimeca1> colbert: i am, and its all mixed up
[05:24] <LordLimeca1> one of my sensors reads nuclear temps
[05:24] <vexati0n> LordLimeca1, slipstreaming is loads of fun, yes.
[05:24] <|NewUser|> dc: well im  not going to download 300+mb data again. in another machine.
[05:24] <LordLimeca1> not slipstreaming :D
[05:24] <Comrade-Sergei> IGxMyzt i do it every day
[05:24] <|NewUser|> l0ol
[05:24] <Falstius> ubuntuEdgy: sit there and wait for you to type pts/.*still logged in
[05:24] <LordLimeca1> nlite
[05:24] <LordLimeca1> :D
[05:24] <|NewUser|> dc: i have 8kbs download connection :)
[05:24] <Flannel> Comrade-Sergei: wow, what an... ugly sources.list
[05:24] <Comrade-Sergei> lol
[05:24] <vexati0n> LordLimeca1, yeah, i just dl'd that but i haven't had a reason to use it yet
[05:24] <IGxMyzt> Where can i find the alternate? I got the 700 MB DL for 6.10 off the main site
[05:24] <colbert> LordLimeca1: nuclear temps ?
[05:24] <Flannel> |NewUser|: they'd be in /var/cache/apt but they might not all be there
[05:24] <Flannel> IGxMyzt: releases.ubuntu.com
[05:24] <Comrade-Sergei> thats what i got
[05:25] <LordLimeca1> i only use it for like 2 things
[05:25] <|NewUser|> Flannel: I checked that cache but there is nothing .
[05:25] <dc> |NewUser|: that sucks haha
[05:25] <Comrade-Sergei> and this is a reletivly fresh install (6 hrs old) Flannel
[05:25] <dc> |NewUser|: both join the same network
[05:25] <LordLimeca1> the setup part (provide defaults) and disabling sfc and tcp/ip patch
[05:25] <|NewUser|> dc: it is :) thats why not going to download it again :)
[05:25] <|NewUser|> dc: yea
[05:25] <dc> |NewUser|: you've done it
[05:26] <ubuntuEdgy> Falstius: it dose not say any thing ?
[05:26] <dc> |NewUser|: ?
[05:26] <Nachtengel> I don't suppose any old hands would know what a good channel to find information on x86_64 ubuntu gaming would be?
[05:26] <Comrade-Sergei> Flannel any problems in it?
[05:26] <IGxMyzt> Do Radeon's need the alternate?
[05:26] <|NewUser|> dc ?
[05:26] <dc> |NewUser|: ? did you join the same workgroup?
[05:26] <|NewUser|> dc: how ?
[05:26] <Flannel> Comrade-Sergei: What?  Fresh install?  Why'd you install Breezy?
[05:26] <_goofy_> how do i find the bus id for my video card
[05:26] <Meshezabeel> what is the best program for replicating an ubuntu machine to a bunch of other machines?
[05:26] <dc> |NewUser|: gnome or kde?
[05:26] <|NewUser|> dc: yes
[05:26] <Falstius> ubuntuEdgy: I wouldn't expect it too ... -q means quiet, don't print anything.  And you didn't give it an input file anyway.  Either that or I'm going loopy.
[05:27] <|NewUser|> dc: using gnome on both machine
[05:27] <Flannel> !games | Nachtengel
[05:27] <ubotu> Nachtengel: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:27] <dc> |NewUser|: ok gimmie one second
[05:27] <Comrade-Sergei> Flannel it was that or warty or hoary
[05:27] <tikus_clurut> hi
[05:27] <Comrade-Sergei> i have those discs
[05:27] <|NewUser|> dc: sure
[05:27] <Falstius> ubuntuEdgy: on the plus side, it won't wipe your HD and set your motherboard on fire.
[05:27] <fiery_cleric> Jump86: well i as far as i know thats they way u do it.... if you want you can change it so that samba (smb) doesnt use system username/passwords by changing the line in /etc/samba/smb.conf from "security = user" to "security = share" ... and then making sure in the share settings in the administration menu that the share u want to access has "allow browsing" option ticked tho doing it this way has security implications so only shar
[05:27] <Comrade-Sergei> Flannel or a Dapper version of kubuntu but i like gnome
[05:27] <Flannel> Comrade-Sergei: Download a new one.  You'll be downloading that much and then some in updates anyway.
[05:27] <dc> |NewUser|: edgy?
[05:27] <IGxMyzt> do radeons need the alternate cd?
[05:27] <ubuntuEdgy> Falstius:lol , im testing a script :)
[05:27] <wastrel> Falstius, ubuntuEdgy it waits for input from stdin and then exits without printing anything
[05:28] <|NewUser|> dc: fiesty
[05:28] <Falstius> ubuntuEdgy: good luck
[05:28] <wastrel> (exits once you send an interrupt or a eof)
[05:28] <Comrade-Sergei> Flannel can i use that edgy download and mount it and use it to install with?
[05:28] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, ok ill try that.. should i also try install smbfs on both machines?
[05:28] <nigro> hola a odos
[05:28] <nigro> :D
[05:28] <nigro> hello
[05:28] <Flannel> Comrade-Sergei: er... what?  Download and burn it
[05:28] <ubuntuEdgy> i have removed the -q now what ?
[05:29] <Comrade-Sergei> Flannel my cd burner is on the fritz cant i just mount the edgy image and use that?
[05:29] <fiery_cleric> fiery_cleric: no if u can connect using nautilus then the server is there on the other machine... but its not a bad idea to install smbfs for the future
[05:29] <dc> |NewUser|: ok one minute
[05:29] <Flannel> !install | Comrade-Sergei
[05:29] <ubotu> Comrade-Sergei: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:29] <wastrel> ubuntuEdgy:  i assume you're piping data to it?
[05:29] <plonemall> what is the root password after freash intallation?
[05:29] <IGxMyzt> can anyone tell me if i can install over redhat?
[05:29] <Flannel> Comrade-Sergei: that page will have a number of methods
[05:29] <|NewUser|> dc : sure
[05:29] <Flannel> plonemall: there is none.  Ubuntu doesn't use the root account, use sudo instead
[05:29] <Comrade-Sergei> ty Flannel
[05:29] <Flannel> IGxMyzt: see that link I just gave Comrade-Sergei
[05:29] <plonemall> and how do i change it
[05:29] <ubuntuEdgy> Falstius:how do i give it an out put file
[05:30] <wastrel> IGxMyzt:  you can install over anything, are you worried about preserving anything from the redhat install?
[05:30] <Flannel> plonemall: Don't.  Use sudo
[05:30] <plonemall> but need to be root
[05:30] <Flannel> plonemall: that's what sudo does
[05:30] <plonemall> to update and install
[05:30] <IGxMyzt> no, i want redhat to die
[05:30] <IGxMyzt> im just worried it will do what it did to my windows xp
[05:30] <plonemall> for example trying to install gizmo and it asking me what is the password
[05:30] <Nachtengel> plonemall, sudo grants you root priveledges for the current command, so sudo foo would mean execute foo with root priveledges
[05:31] <plonemall> but when I am in gnome
[05:31] <plonemall> graphic
[05:31] <wastrel> gksudo
[05:31] <dc> |NewUser|: i dont think i can find a way, but you can download updates as executables
[05:31] <IGxMyzt> when i popped it in my xp hard drive, it deleted some xp files and i had to reinstall windows
[05:31] <Flannel> plonemall: How are you trying to install gizmo?
[05:31] <|NewUser|> ..
[05:31] <raymond> sudo=teporary root ...kind of...
[05:31] <|NewUser|> dc : due dont want to download those all again :<
[05:31] <plonemall> downloaded the pagckage from thiers site
[05:31] <Flannel> plonemall: ah.  That password prompt is asking for your user password
[05:32] <wastrel> what's gizmo
[05:32] <derek_> Hi
[05:32] <raymond> gismo is a voip app
[05:32] <dc> |NewUser|: i know, i know ill get it
[05:32] <derek_> I upgraded ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04. Then I got a new entry in System > Administration : Restricted Drivers Manager for ATI accelerated graphics driver. I enabled it. And restarted. It is now showing enabled. But the status is : Not in use. How can I use it?
[05:32] <dc> |NewUser|: this dude who is helping me out is a dbag
[05:32] <plonemall> so no need to change the root
[05:32] <Flannel> derek_: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[05:32] <plonemall> but how it is possible in general
[05:32] <Flannel> plonemall: no.  Put your user password in there.
[05:32] <|NewUser|> dc: as flannel said there is a dir which keeps packages i have documention." http://ubuntuliving.blogspot.com/2007/04/copying-updates-to-other-systems.html " but there is nothing ..
[05:33] <IGxMyzt> quick question: should i try 6.10 alternate, 7.04 or 7.04 alternate?
[05:33] <ubuntuEdgy> wastrel:  just checking how many users are logged on
[05:33] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, ok the confi was already set to make the shares public=yes.. i think i figured it out though.. i found i get the same access denied error if i use and invalid share name.. like sudo mount -t smbfs -0 username=x,password=x //ben-desktop/invalidshare /media/mnt
[05:33] <Flannel> IGxMyzt: alternate CD is a textmode installer.  It will work on ... basically everything.  Since it's not a graphical installer
[05:33] <|NewUser|> i just found this.. through google
[05:33] <plonemall> and now i need to install zope from the command line
[05:33] <kitche> |NewUser|: well feisty hasn't been released yet
[05:33] <Nachtengel> plonemall, you don't want to be root all the time, just for specific commands, much safer for your computer that way
[05:33] <plonemall> and it needs to be as root
[05:33] <plonemall> so what to do
[05:33] <|NewUser|> kitche: it works awsome on my another machine :)
[05:33] <IGxMyzt> ok thanks
[05:33] <plonemall> so to use sudo ...
[05:34] <Flannel> plonemall: zope is in the repositories.
[05:34] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, does the path to the shared folder have to be different when I'm mounting an already mounted drive?
[05:34] <wastrel> ubuntuEdgy:  uptime; users; w
[05:34] <plonemall> not last version
[05:34] <IGxMyzt> so i can install it over redhat without repartitioning?
[05:34] <dc> |NewUser|: i think i figured it out
[05:34] <Flannel> !compile | plonemall
[05:34] <ubotu> plonemall: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:34] <plonemall> Zope-2.10.3-final
[05:34] <|NewUser|> dc: gud.. how?
[05:34] <Flannel> actually, you dont want that.
[05:34] <Flannel> !prevu | plonemall
[05:34] <ubotu> plonemall: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[05:34] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, i have the shared smb folder under /media/sdd5/TV.. so //ben-desktop/TV or //ben-desktop/media/sdd5/TV? i tried both and same error.. but i think maybe this part is invalid
[05:35] <dc> |NewUser|: one sec
[05:35] <|NewUser|> dc: sure :)
[05:35] <Meshezabeel> IGxMyzt: if you just want to try it get the live cd and try it out, get 7.04
[05:35] <pimpnasty> if I install a game do I have to restart if it didnt tell me to restart
[05:36] <IGxMyzt> i ordered 7.04, so ill try 6.10 til it gets here. less bugs maybe.
[05:36] <IGxMyzt> plus i only have 1 CD-R left...hoping this one works
[05:36] <MistaED> i heard debian 4 has delta apt support now for updates, will feisty have these or will we still see 22+mb replacement package updates every second day?
[05:36] <wastrel> what's delta apt support?
[05:36] <dc> |NewUser|: there are 2 ways to do this, one is hard and will work for sure, one may not work but will be easy
[05:36] <wastrel> ah package list deltas?
[05:36] <wastrel> fun
[05:37] <dc> |NewUser|: do you have aim?
[05:37] <|NewUser|> dc: yuea
[05:37] <IGxMyzt> can i install 6.10 straight over redhat without partitioning/reformat?
[05:37] <dc> |NewUser|: whats your screenname
[05:37] <|NewUser|> dc: ooppsss.. i aint aim :S i have yahoo msn. just.
[05:37] <|NewUser|> *sorry*
[05:37] <wastrel> igor47:  yes, if you're happy with your current partitions and filesystem choices
[05:38] <wastrel> er, IGxMyzt ^^
[05:38] <Meshezabeel> IGxMyzt: 7.04 beta from what I hear actually performs better than 6.10, but I haven't used it yet, maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong
[05:38] <IGxMyzt> thanks
[05:38] <IGxMyzt> Meshe: I've seen a ton of people having the same error atm
[05:38] <dc> |NewUser|: damn.  whats ur msn
[05:38] <wastrel> actually IGxMyzt the installer will format the partitions unless you tell it not to i think .  it's good though, or you'll have redhat stuff hanging around on the partition
[05:39] <wowow> *hmmm*
[05:39] <IGxMyzt> my redhat is messed up heheh. its old redhat 9 and it's set to the wrong monitor Hz
[05:39] <Meshezabeel> IGxMyzt: you can erase the partitions with the installer
[05:39] <IGxMyzt> thanks, good night
[05:39] <wowow> has anyoone seen ubuntu dapper installs on intel chipset 3/4rs of the way through throw the screen wonky?
[05:39] <IGxMyzt> ill probably see you tomorrow with more problems
[05:39] <Meshezabeel> IGxMyzt: g'night
[05:39] <|NewUser|> dc: u g0t my msg?
[05:39] <grndslm> 4 more days!!!!!!!!
[05:40] <wowow> even the terminal windows are black with one square pixel on it ... thats it
[05:40] <wowow> ideas?
[05:40] <dc> |NewUser|: naw, my thing doens't support messaging, ill send u amessage with mine
[05:40] <jskulski> hey i'm trying to get a wireless card working. it has the rt61 chipset. i've run through the howto and am running into several pecularities
[05:40] <one_speed> fstab question: I'm about to add a new partition, but the current ones have these very long UUID numbers after the device location...is this something I need to find before adding?
[05:40] <jskulski> i think it's stuck on ipv6 mode or something. anyone knowledgable?
[05:40] <peepsalot> is samba really the best option for sharing directories between linux boxes?
[05:40] <dc> |NewUser|: did you get it?
[05:41] <|NewUser|> dc: still not :S
[05:41] <Flannel> one_speed: no, you can use the old (/dev/hdL#) or the new stuff (UUID)
[05:41] <dc> |NewUser|: whatever my username msn is moomoocow613@msn.com
[05:42] <|NewUser|> dc: i just add you. there
[05:42] <dc> |NewUser|: send me a message
[05:42] <Flannel> peepsalot: samba is the way to talk to windows, NFS is probably the way to go for homogenous *nix
[05:42] <haxality> what's the dpkg command to clean the list of packages and reconcile what's installed with what shows up?
[05:43] <DVS01> hi
[05:43] <dc> |NewUser|: whatever it doenst work
[05:43] <|NewUser|> dc: u are offline dude..
[05:43] <dc> |NewUser|: heres what to do
[05:43] <|NewUser|> dc: it doesnt workg
[05:44] <DVS01> i am switching from windows to linux on my laptop. i am trying to decide between 3 different distro bases; redhat, debian, and gentoo
[05:44] <invisiblepinkuni> i am unable to use TAB for auto complete in the terminal/shell
[05:44] <haxality> nevermind.
[05:44] <DVS01> if i go for a debian based distro, i'm going for ubuntu
[05:44] <dc> |NewUser|: on the good computer go to /var/cache/apt
[05:44] <DVS01> having trouble deciding though
[05:44] <peepsalot> Flannel, i read this while searching about NFS: "NFS doesn't have nearly as good a security system (it performs a
[05:44] <peepsalot> credential lookup on the client system, which can theoretically be
[05:44] <peepsalot> spoofed - yikes!)"
[05:44] <wastrel> DVS01: the answer is "debian based"
[05:44] <|NewUser|> dc: yea tha
[05:44] <|NewUser|> *n
[05:44] <peepsalot> is that true?
[05:45] <dc> |NewUser|: back up the old computer's folder like that and then move that folder to the un-updated computer
[05:45] <wastrel> smb has better security than nfs ?
[05:45] <DVS01> wastrel: why?
[05:45] <dc> |NewUser|: then run sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:45] <|NewUser|> dc: but in this dir i dont have nothing.
[05:45] <wastrel> DVS01:  the package management system is soooooooooooooooooooooooo much better
[05:45] <wastrel> sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better
[05:45] <DVS01> wastrel: thats what ive been told
[05:46] <wastrel> it's true :] 
[05:46] <|NewUser|> dc: i try to look my self ls -ltra /var/cache/apt
[05:46] <|NewUser|> there is nothign
[05:46] <invisiblepinkuni> i am unable to use tab for auto completion... like "mplayer abcd.flv", when i type TAB after abc its not autocompleting... how can i change this behaviour?
[05:46] <dc> |NewUser|: just do a sudo cp to a folder on the desktop
[05:46] <|NewUser|> dc can i msg you in pvt?
[05:46] <quixote9> DVS01, package management really is better, forums (ie help) is way better
[05:46] <gnychis> whenever i boot the ubuntu livecd 6.10, i get no mouse or keyboard, any ideas?
[05:46] <Varanger> hello
[05:46] <dc> |NewUser|: i dont have ability to do that, im using irssi
[05:46] <DVS01> wastrel: i'm pretty much set on that.. however.. i'm also having trouble deciding between gnome and kde. if i want to have both available, should i go ubuntu+kde, or kubuntu+gnome?
[05:47] <|NewUser|> dc: nevamind join a any other channel ? if u dont mind ?
[05:47] <Varanger> When will the final version of Fawn be out???
[05:47] <wastrel> invisiblepinkuni:  it's probably that thingy where the bash autocomplete is trying to be too smarty for you.  and only complete things it "knows" mplayer can play.  i forget the fix... sec.
[05:47] <dc> |NewUser|: umm channel name DCDCDC
[05:47] <|NewUser|> dc: ok
[05:47] <quixote9> DVS01: I use kubuntu, so I'd say kubuntu + gnome.  but either way would work, I'm sure.
[05:48] <wastrel> DVS01:  ubuntu + apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   versus  kubuntu + apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   pretty much the same thing
[05:48] <arrow> I put automatix on my computer and unotu recomends reinstalling ubuntu, any advice before I do start?
[05:48] <invisiblepinkuni> wastrel: yes, its trying to be clever... only completing stuff for that program... how can I fix it ?
[05:48] <DVS01> quixote9 and wastrel, thanks
[05:48] <clearzen> Does anyone know if rsync acts like ftp by connecting to a random port on the receiving computer to transmit data?
[05:48] <wowow> *hmm*
[05:48] <gnychis> whenever i boot the ubuntu livecd 6.10, i get no mouse or keyboard, any ideas?
[05:49] <arrow> gnychis, did you verify the cd?
[05:49] <wastrel> invisiblepinkuni:  comment out the lines about bash_completion  in /etc/bash.bashrc  and relog
[05:49] <Jump86> fiery_cleric, i got it working! changing the security=share is what did it.. thanks again!
[05:49] <invisiblepinkuni> wastrel: will do that... thanks a lot. :)
[05:51] <peepsalot> has anyone here used openAFS?
[05:51] <DVS01> is there a specific way that ubuntu organizes software? i seem to have noticed some differences in how /usr is treated by debian-based and redhat-based oses
[05:51] <wastrel> what's gizmo?
[05:51] <peepsalot> !info gizmo
[05:51] <gnychis> whenever i boot the ubuntu livecd 6.10, i get no mouse or keyboard, any ideas?  i've tried burning the 6.10 cd twice and both cd's have the problem
[05:51] <ubotu> Package gizmo does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:52] <peepsalot> dunno
[05:52] <wastrel> DVS01:  anything in the package system official repository is going to be placed under /usr  rather than /usr/local
[05:52] <wastrel> any packages acutally i believe
[05:52] <DVS01> what would the purpose of /usr/local be then?
[05:52] <Pelo> gnychis,  usb mouse and kb ?
[05:53] <wastrel> DVS01:  /usr/local for stuff you install yourself from source, binary non-debian packages...
[05:53] <DVS01> ahhh
[05:53] <jskulski> what is wlan0 vs ra0
[05:53] <pimpnasty> is there anything better then wine  because wine + steam sucks
[05:54] <gnychis> Pelo: they are ps2
[05:54] <wastrel> jskulski:  it depends on your wifi driver i think.  just the name of the interface device
[05:54] <jskulski> hmm
[05:54] <pimpnasty> what?
[05:54] <Pelo> gnychis, do you get as far as the boot menu ? do they work at that point ?
[05:55] <pimpnasty> anyone know a better program then wine?
[05:55] <DVS01> i am going to be using this laptop for multimedia, gaming, desktop use. with that in mind, should i get the 32bit or 64bit distro? would there be compatibility problems if using x86_64 with wine, or packages not compiled in 64bit?
[05:55] <wastrel> pimpnasty:  vmware, qemu are the next step
[05:55] <Pelo> pimpnasty,   try asking for help in #wnehq  they may know a trick or two for you
[05:55] <rajlinux> Hi, I am searching for any article describing the serial driver layer changes from Linux kernel 2.4 to 2.5..can anybody help me?
[05:55] <redwyrm> pimpnasty, Cedega
[05:55] <gnychis> Pelo: i get to the boot menu yes, then i try to boot in to the desktop environment and neither work in that environment
[05:55] <DVS01> yea try cedega
[05:55] <sword_> how do i remove a repository from /etc/apt/sources.list???
[05:55] <wastrel> ah true cedega
[05:55] <pimpnasty> okay
[05:56] <redwyrm> Cedega is a proprietary fork of Wine
[05:56] <wastrel> sword_:  delete the line in the list (or comment it out with a # at the beginning),  then  sudo apt-get update
[05:56] <Pelo> gnychis,  try with the alternate install cd it's text based
[05:56] <sword_> but /etc/apt/sources.list is "read only"
[05:56] <gnychis> Pelo: which cd is that?
[05:56] <wastrel> sword_:  make a backup of the working copy before making changes
[05:56] <Pelo> sword_,  do it throught synaptic
[05:56] <wastrel> sword_:  you'll need to use sudo to edit system files.
[05:57] <Pelo> gnychis,   you can download it fom the ubuntu.com site,  it is called alternate install
[05:57] <sword_> synaptic doesn't show me that repository as its invalid (typing error)
[05:57] <wowow> does ubuntu have an installer team channel?
[05:57] <sword_> how do i get sudo?
[05:57] <wastrel> !sudo | sword_
[05:57] <ubotu> sword_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:57] <Pelo> sword_,   sudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[05:57] <wastrel> Pelo sword_  use gksudo for graphical programs
[05:58] <DVS01> how should i decide whether i should get the 32bit or 64bit distro? would there be compatibility problems if using x86_64 with wine, or packages not compiled in 64bit?
[05:58] <Pelo> DVS01,  the 64 bit is overrated as I understand it,  you wont, have any problem using the 32 bit on a 64bit system
[05:58] <DVS01> werd
[05:58] <sword_> got it..i was using $gksudo...
[05:58] <gnychis> Pelo: hmmmm i don't see it on the website
[05:58] <Pelo> gnychis,  in the download section ?
[05:58] <Pelo> !alternate
[05:58] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:59] <wastrel> the problem with 64 bit as far as i understand it, is that binary/proprietary stuff like flash plugin doesn't work because it's only avail in 32
[05:59] <Omg123wtf> Where is the config file where I can keep my monitor from going to "sleep mode" after like 15 minutes?
[05:59] <wastrel> but some people make a 32bit chroot for that stuff
[05:59] <Pelo> hmmm thought they were suppose to had a link
[05:59] <jskulski> how can i tell what device is tied to what driver? the driver documentation is all aout ra0 but the only device i have is wlan0
[05:59] <wastrel> i dunno myself, never used 64
[06:00] <gnychis> Pelo: i only see 6.10 and 6.10LTS
[06:00] <Pelo> gnychis,   6.10 is the current version
[06:00] <draeath> Does one of CFLAGS / CXXFLAGS get put into the other, or should I set them both?
[06:00] <sword_> whats the difference between 'Binary' and 'Source' in different repositories in Synaptic??
[06:00] <gnychis> Pelo: correct, but where is the "alternate" version i'm looking for
[06:00] <DVS01> so using 64bit doesnt seem worth it at this point then.. except for one issue.. emulation with things like wine and vmware.. is there any difference?
[06:01] <Flannel> sword_: source downloads the source, binary downloads the binary files (executables)
[06:01] <solid_liq> um, anyone know a livecd for amd64 I can use to get into my JFS on LVM system that I upgraded to 7.04?  it won't boot now...
[06:01] <Pelo> gnychis,  either
[06:01] <wastrel> sword_:  just what it says, the source repos contain source packages, for if you want to compile the program yourself.
[06:01] <draeath> DVS01, wine doesn't really work on 64-bit, vmware does with the any-any patch
[06:01] <DVS01> alright, so im going 32bit then
[06:02] <Pelo> solid_liq,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <draeath> DVS01, but you can run in a 32-bit chroot
[06:02] <Omg123wtf> Anyone know how I keep my monitor from going to sleep mode?
[06:02] <DVS01> true
[06:02] <solid_liq> Pelo, thanks
[06:02] <draeath> DVS01, its complicated though :D
[06:02] <DVS01> yeah, seems not worth it
[06:02] <draeath> DVS01, not yet. Kind of reminds me of the 16/32 days
[06:03] <DVS01> im trying to decide between dual boot linux+windows, or just run windows in a vmware/qemu/whatever and set its affinity to my second core (using a core2duo)?
[06:03] <solid_liq> draeath, turn off power management in your DE ;)
[06:04] <Omg123wtf> DVS01, what are you going to be doing in Windows?
[06:04] <Pelo> DVS01,  if you don'T mind the reboot go for dual boot
[06:04] <draeath> solid_liq, what?
[06:04] <jskulski> how does a driver decide what device its going to be called
[06:04] <jskulski> its not in the source
[06:04] <DVS01> Omg123wtf: not too sure at this point.. probably mainly for legacy purposes.. i MIGHT do it for gaming, but i am avoiding that so i can force myself to work with wine/cedega
[06:04] <LordLimeca1> i need some help, i compiled my own kernel (because of issues with current one), and on reboot networking doesnt work
[06:05] <Pelo> jskulski,  it checks the device
[06:05] <LordLimeca1> i could REALLY use some help, been struggling for hours
[06:05] <DVS01> LordLimeca1: no network devices detected?
[06:05] <gnychis> Pelo: so is it an option when i boot up? alternate mode?
[06:05] <Omg123wtf> DVS01, you will not be able to do any gaming in  VMware.  You want to duel boot.
[06:05] <LordLimeca1> well, it DOES detect, and i have an ip, and i can ping, but irc (irssi) and web (lynx, firefox) doesnt work
[06:05] <Pelo> LordLimeca1,  it's not that we don't WANT to help , but not everyone CAN
[06:05] <LordLimeca1> i know :(
[06:06] <LordLimeca1> but the drivers clearly work if i can ping, right?
[06:06] <LordLimeca1> i can ping google, router, local network
[06:06] <draeath> LordLimeca1, yes,
[06:06] <LordLimeca1> but cannot browse google, or connect to freenode.net
[06:06] <draeath> LordLimeca1, what doesn't work
[06:06] <LordLimeca1> irssi -c irc.freenode.net times out
[06:06] <jskulski> is there anything wonky about Keys for WEP like you need a $ like on a mac or what
[06:06] <LordLimeca1> www.google.com (in browser) times out
[06:06] <draeath> LordLimeca1, what happens when you 'telnet www.google.com 80' and type GET /
[06:06] <Pelo> gnychis,  the alternate install cd only installs in  text mode,  and contains no live cd feature,  this is not an option you find on the live cd , it is a diffrent cd altogether
[06:07] <LordLimeca1> id have to check by rebooting
[06:07] <LordLimeca1> but are there any things i can run during reboot that would help?
[06:07] <gnychis> Pelo: yeah but i still can't find the alternate install cd
[06:07] <Amrog> hey all, is there someway to enable universal scroll?
[06:07] <LordLimeca1> 2 reboots will take 10 mins
[06:07] <DVS01> heh i think one of the main reasons im about to choose ubuntu again is due to support =D
[06:07] <LordLimeca1> would dmesg help?
[06:08] <Flannel> gnychis: releases.ubuntu.com
[06:08] <Terraburn> Is it already if i ask a question in here?
[06:08] <Terraburn> alright*
[06:08] <draeath> LordLimeca1, in a console, do 'telnet www.google.com 80' and when you get the escape character type: GET / HTTP/1.1
[06:08] <draeath> LordLimeca1,  do you get anything?
[06:08] <LordLimeca1> alright
[06:08] <Pelo> Terraburn,  just ask
[06:08] <LordLimeca1> i have to reboot to see
[06:08] <draeath> LordLimeca1, dont have another machine to do it through?
[06:08] <LordLimeca1> draeath: im using the old kernel right now, in the new one i cant connect to irc
[06:08] <slvmchn> what's a lightweight image editor (ideally able to edit jpegs and pngs at least) something like mspaint? i don't want to use GIMP every time i want to make small changes to a small image
[06:08] <LordLimeca1> draeath: no
[06:08] <draeath> LordLimeca1, try connecting with IP?
[06:09] <LordLimeca1> not ATM, its down
[06:09] <Terraburn> k. I already read the guides but couldn't find my answer. Im currently running a raid setup with windows on it, and when i went to install ubuntu, it wouldn't see my raid only my two drives individually
[06:09] <hiffy> does anyone remember how to see the mem usage of a given app?
[06:09] <draeath> LordLimeca1, when you get up
[06:09] <Terraburn> I want to keep my windows installing, and be able to boot to Ubuntu
[06:09] <LordLimeca1> draeath: i know that its not dns, because i can ping google, and i did try ip, no connection
[06:09] <LordLimeca1> but ill try telnet
[06:09] <draeath> hmm
[06:09] <LordLimeca1> any other thoughts before i reboot?
[06:09] <pimpnasty> okay im trying  it witch one is my linux dristibion red hat mandrake  gentoo suse debian gnu/ linux gentoo slackware linspire xandros lycoris knoppix other and I have fiesty ubuntu 7.05 or somthing
[06:09] <Flying-Penguin> anyone have ubuntu 6.10 suspend working right?
[06:09] <Flying-Penguin> mine won't recover from the supend
[06:09] <draeath> I dont think telnet will work
[06:09] <draeath> if its not just browsing (you said irc didnt either)
[06:09] <LordLimeca1> correct
[06:09] <pimpnasty> should I select other?
[06:09] <LordLimeca1> and its not firefox, tried lynx
[06:10] <DVS01> does ubuntu use its own customized kernel? if so, would using the latest generic one have any ill effects?
[06:10] <Pelo> gnychis,   I am sorry I didn'T realise it was so hard to get at   http://nl2.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[06:10] <draeath> LordLimeca1, sounds like your missing part of your TCP stack?
[06:10] <LordLimeca1> im not using generic, im using 2.6.20.7
[06:10] <ubuntuEdgy> has any one managed to use MythShutdownCheck successfully ?
[06:10] <wastrel> DVS01:  yes and no, afaik.
[06:10] <LordLimeca1> thats quite possible
[06:10] <LordLimeca1> i removed a lot.....
[06:10] <draeath> hmm
[06:10] <wastrel> !kernel | DVS01
[06:10] <Terraburn> Anyone know how to do what Im trying?
[06:10] <ubotu> DVS01: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:10] <LordLimeca1> woudl seeing my .config help>?
[06:10] <draeath> LordLimeca1 yes, pastebin it
[06:10] <DVS01> thanks
[06:11] <LordLimeca1> i removed ipv6, but thats pretty much it except apple and decnet crap
[06:11] <draeath> LordLimeca1 i'
[06:11] <slvmchn> can anyone help me fix my gnome-panel? one day when i opened the menu up top bugbuddy popped up and said gnome-panel crashed, so the gnome-panel restarts. i can't access my menu without restarting gnome-panel.
[06:11] <draeath> I've compiled a few kernels in my time
[06:11] <Amrog> I just migrated from windows. It was there that when I clicked the mouse wheel on a web page in firefox, It created a reference point, then by moving my mouse away from this point, I could scroll around a web page. This does not happen in ubuntu. Is there someway to make this happen?
[06:11] <LordLimeca1> !paste
[06:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:11] <LordLimeca1> draeath: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15901/
[06:12] <LordLimeca1> and thanks LOADS for helping me, till new kernel works, sound doesnt
[06:12] <slvmchn> Amrog: try asking in #firefox
[06:12] <Amrog> ok
[06:12] <slvmchn> what's a lightweight image editor (ideally able to edit jpegs and pngs at least) something like mspaint? i don't want to use GIMP every time i want to make small changes to a small image
[06:12] <LordLimeca1> draeath: probably easiest if you make menuconfig it?
[06:12] <LordLimeca1> see what i removed?
[06:13] <wastrel> Amrog:  try alt+wheel-click  maybe
[06:13] <Flannel> slvmchn: OOo Draw
[06:13] <wastrel> gpaint slvmchn
[06:14] <Arlain> need help. Wireless ssid's are showing up as ot of range when sitting next to router
[06:14] <wastrel> i wouldn't call oodraw lightweight :] 
[06:14] <Arlain> can't connect using wireless
[06:14] <Terraburn> Anyone here good with RAIDs and Ubuntu?
[06:14] <seamus7> Hi.. what version of Feisty is now available ... still just Beta or RC? where can I get the latest?
[06:15] <cafuego> Terraburn: define 'raid'.
[06:16] <Terraburn> Im running a raid 0
[06:16] <Pelo> seamus7,  #ubuntu+1
[06:16] <Terraburn> with xp on it
[06:16] <Terraburn> and I want to install Ubuntu on it
[06:16] <Terraburn> without losing windows
[06:16] <Arlain> need help. Wireless ssid's are showing up as ot of range when sitting next to router
[06:17] <Terraburn> But Ub won't read my raid
[06:17] <Arlain> can't connect using wireless, any know?
[06:17] <Terraburn> only thw two drives individually
[06:17] <LordLimeca1> Arlain: IANAE, but a thought or 2...
[06:17] <Pelo> Terraburn,  check the forum, I am sure there is something on this
[06:17] <cafuego> Terraburn: software raid eh. you need device-mapper. I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole.
[06:17] <Arlain> ...?
[06:17] <LordLimeca1> Arlain: is the wirelessusing encryption?
[06:17] <Terraburn> heh
[06:17] <Flannel> Terraburn: This is with the alternate CD?
[06:17] <LordLimeca1> if so, what kind
[06:17] <Madpilot> Terraburn, Linux can't read some fakeRAID stuff
[06:17] <cafuego> Terraburn: Incidentally, raid0 means you lose all data when even a single disk fails.
[06:17] <Terraburn> I looked for a good time, couldn't find anything
[06:17] <Terraburn> Its with the reg raid
[06:18] <Arlain> this one is, yes, but i cannot conenct to even unecrypted networks
[06:18] <Terraburn> err, regular ubunto
[06:18] <Terraburn> not alternate
[06:18] <LordLimeca1> Arlain: is it a usb wireless card?
[06:18] <LordLimeca1> like, those crappy linksys ones?
[06:18] <Flannel> Terraburn: you'll need the alternate CD
[06:18] <Terraburn> Ok
[06:18] <Flannel> Terraburn: although, I can't say for sure it'll work.  But Desktop CD doesn't have RAID stuff
[06:18] <cafuego> Terraburn: Check the ubuntu wiki and look for device-mapper (dmraid). There should eb some stuff there.
[06:19] <Flannel> !raid
[06:19] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:19] <cafuego> Flannel: it does, but kernel mode (md) raid.
[06:19] <Pelo> Terraburn,  can you have  a raid that only uses a part of one of the hdds ?  try making a partition for ubuntu on one of the hdd and install it on that ,
[06:19] <Terraburn> Yea I made a partition, but it would not see it
[06:19] <Arlain> doubt it, it's an intell wireless 2200, it's internal
[06:19] <Terraburn> only the two drives
[06:19] <Terraburn> Im assuming its cause its not the LTS version?
[06:20] <Pelo> nothign to do with that
[06:20] <Arlain> every network i connect to i get a connection failed.
[06:20] <cafuego> Your on-board raid chip handles raid in a proprietary way.
[06:20] <Flannel> Terraburn: Alternate CD is for every version.  But the new download thing is stupid.  use http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[06:20] <plonemall> how can I connect 2 ubuntu machines
[06:20] <wastrel> plonemall:  what are you trying to do?
[06:20] <plonemall> the both connected to router
[06:20] <plonemall> share files
[06:21] <plonemall> move from one to the other
[06:21] <mbi> How do I do multicasting in Linux?
[06:21] <wastrel> plonemall:  open up nautilus
[06:21] <Arlain> lorelimeca1, any idea?
[06:21] <Arlain> lordlimeca1, any idea?
[06:21] <wastrel> plonemall:  er, first you need openssh-server installed on the system you're connecting to
[06:21] <plonemall> it is possible to do it using the gnome?
[06:21] <draeath> LordLimeca1, hmm, im not seeing what the problem might be. I notice a lot of networking is set as modules... did you do "make modules_install"?
[06:22] <wastrel> plonemall:  can you ssh to the remote machine?
[06:22] <Terraburn> Should I get 6.06 or 6.10, or will it not matter?
[06:22] <DVS01> whats the difference between the ubuntu kernel and generic kernel?
[06:22] <plonemall> not sure
[06:22] <draeath> LordLimeca1, my usual procedure is 'make mrproper && make clean && make menuconfig && make && make modules_install'
[06:22] <plonemall> openssl is coming with ubuntu?
[06:22] <LordLimeca1> draeath: i grabbed source, linked to linux (after cleaning out old part), ran make menuconfig, make-kpkg clean, then compile
[06:22] <wastrel> plonemall:  can you install packages on the remote machine?  (no openssh is not default)
[06:23] <LordLimeca1> hmmmm
[06:23] <draeath> DVS01, the ubuntu kernel has had some extra patches
[06:23] <Flannel> !kernel | DVS01
[06:23] <ubotu> DVS01: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:23] <Pelo> DVS01,  generic kernel is only a bogus packages that selects the correct kernel for your machine
[06:23] <LordLimeca1> draeath: whats make clean DO exactly
[06:23] <wastrel> Flannel:  i already did that
[06:23] <Pelo> more or less
[06:23] <Flannel> wastrel: I know.  He mustn't have read it
[06:23] <plonemall> wastrel, the machine is also connected to the internet
[06:23] <draeath> LordLimeca1 it removes object and linker files that have been built.
[06:23] <LordLimeca1> draeath: and how does it differ from make-kpkg clean?  also, whats make mrproper?  Finally, where can i find the .config for ubuntu?
[06:23] <Arlain> anyone know how to make this work?
[06:24] <wastrel> plonemall:  can you install packages on the remote machine?   install the package   openssh-server
[06:24] <LordLimeca1> oh, and is make clean the same as rm -rf /usr/src/linux?
[06:24] <pimpnasty> on xp I had a program called synergy
[06:24] <LordLimeca1> +unzipping+relinking
[06:24] <draeath> LordLimeca1, make mrproper cleans the source tree out completely to be suitable for distribution. Not sure what make-kpkg is. .config is in /boot. Mine is /boot/config-2.6.17-11-generic
[06:24] <wastrel> Arlain:  ipw2200 Just Works  for me...
[06:24] <Pelo> Arlain,  search the forum for your hardware
[06:24] <LordLimeca1> i dont see it in there
[06:25] <plonemall> wasterl, ok and after that
[06:25] <Arlain> i have the drivers.
[06:25] <LordLimeca1> viewing hidden files too
[06:25] <Arlain> the drivers are installed in my device manager
[06:25] <Arlain> it's jsut not working
[06:25] <wastrel> plonemall:  on the local system, open nautilus
[06:25] <draeath> LordLimeca1, hmm, ive also installed the generic kernel and headers too. You might need hte kernel headers package? hold on and I'll find out
[06:25] <Amrog> if somebody tells me to do something, then says "sudo gedit /etc/hosts" what does this sudo mean?
[06:25] <wastrel> Arlain:  lsmod | grep 2200
[06:25] <Pelo> g'night foks
[06:25] <Arlain> what?
[06:25] <Flannel> !sudo | Amrog
[06:25] <wastrel> Amrog:  use gksudo
[06:26] <ubotu> Amrog: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:26] <Arlain> wastrel, i'm a lil new to this, what the heck is that?
[06:26] <wastrel> Arlain:  it is a command line command   lsmod | grep 2200    tells you if the ipw2200 driver is running
[06:26] <Amrog> ok.
[06:26] <Arlain> ok, i got a print out
[06:26] <Arlain> how can i tell
[06:27] <wastrel> Arlain:  does it say  ipw2200 ?
[06:27] <Arlain> yeah,s ays ipw2200 113476 0
[06:27] <LordLimeca1> draeath: i followed this : http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu almost to a T, but used the latest kernel instead
[06:27] <LordLimeca1> only other deviation was the kernel name
[06:27] <Arlain> ieee80211 3608 1
[06:27] <arooni> hey folks.............. my firefox 2.0.3 crashes 5 times a day on ubuntu 6.10 .. ideas?
[06:27] <wastrel> Arlain:  ok that tells us that at least the driver is running
[06:28] <LordLimeca1> but you think its a make menuconfig error?  i can re-make it and use the ubuntu config as a baseline...
[06:28] <wastrel> Arlain:  how about iwconfig  (don't paste :)   do you see anything interesting in there?
[06:28] <draeath> LordLimeca1, my /boot/config was isntalled as part as the 'linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic' package
[06:28] <Arlain> iwconfig? not familiar
[06:28] <LordLimeca1> draeath: found the config :)
[06:28] <Flannel> LordLimeca1: howtoforge is really bad. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:28] <plonemall> what is nautilus
[06:28] <draeath> LordLimeca1, you may be interested int he kernel option that puts the config in /proc :D
[06:28] <jase090> Hello people can anyone help me?
[06:28] <wastrel> Arlain:  another command line command
[06:28] <Arlain> yeah, got a print out
[06:29] <draeath> LordLimeca1, I just used what I remember from tldp.org, debian woody, and gentoo
[06:29] <Arlain> what should i look for
[06:29] <wastrel> plonemall:  it's the program you use in gnome for looking at files
[06:29] <plonemall> ok
[06:29] <draeath> LordLimeca1, i know that procedure I gave you works... but you do have to copy everything into /boot and set up grub to use it...
[06:29] <jase090> Im currently running Xandros... because its the only distro that auto configures my RALINK RT73 minipci/usb wifi card.... But I hate Xandros!
[06:29] <wastrel> Arlain:  one of the entries will have info, the rest will probably be blank  or "no wireless..."
[06:29] <draeath> LordLimeca1, it also doesn't use initrd that way... not that I've ever had an issue missing it
[06:29] <cara> Hi is the restricted driver manager available in efty edge?
[06:29] <pirothezero> just wondering if someone can explain this: last night I had to copy one drive to another and I used a live cd to do it, upon sticking the drive into my main computer when i went to the directory of the hard drive every folder was fine except for one that had the lock symbol and everything was owner 999 yet i could still open the directory
[06:29] <Arlain> wastrel, got a print out says same thing i would expect it too. says no connection
[06:29] <pirothezero> no idea what user 999 is
[06:30] <LordLimeca1> draeath: what people need are not howtos for things like kernel builds, theyre a helping hand and some good old fashioned f### ups :)
[06:30] <Arlain> lists the last ssid i tried to connect to, but 0 signal
[06:30] <draeath> LordLimeca1, use '?' a LOT in make menuconfig :P
[06:30] <wastrel> Arlain:  this is on eth1 ?
[06:30] <Arlain> yeah
[06:30] <rajlinux> Hi, I am searching for any article describing the serial driver layer changes from Linux kernel 2.4 to 2.5..can anybody help me?
[06:30] <LordLimeca1> but guides i dont like, because when somethings slightly different (ie, you use dapper instead of edgy) the guide makes things worse
[06:30] <LordLimeca1> draeath: yea, i spent like 1hr in there :)
[06:30] <Arlain> unassociated essid: ____
[06:30] <LordLimeca1> when should something be a module, and when statically configged
[06:30] <jase090> anyone know how I can copy wifi configuration from one distro to another?
[06:30] <LordLimeca1> isnt static faster?
[06:31] <wastrel> plonemall:  in nautilus go to  File > Connect to server    change the  Service type to  SSH  and put in the address of the remote system
[06:31] <wastrel> plonemall:  this will let you connect and move files
[06:31] <Flannel> LordLimeca1: Howto Forge is always a bad place to go for stuff.  Use the community documentation, and usually it's pretty up to date re: versioning
[06:31] <Arlain> with wireless assistant's gui i can see ssids and what not, i can even attempt to conenct to em, i jsut get ana sston of fails
[06:31] <plonemall> wastrel, the address is the ip?
[06:31] <cara> !restricted drivers
[06:31] <wastrel> plonemall:  yes
[06:31] <cara> lol
[06:32] <cara> sigh
[06:32] <wastrel> Arlain:  this is  system > administration > networking  ?
[06:32] <plonemall> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:32] <InnerFIRE> does anyone use Democracy player
[06:32] <plonemall> this is when trying to install openssh
[06:32] <jase090> does anyone know if Ubuntu supports Ralink (RAUSB0) is the device name
[06:32] <Arlain> naw, applications wireless assistant, 3rd party app i beleive
[06:32] <puff> I'm trying to help a friend get his netopia 3D pcmcia card working.
[06:33] <redwyrm> jase090, from what I've heard, Ralink is a linux-friendly company
[06:33] <draeath> LordLimeca1, i have seem books on the linux kernel in the bookstores :P
[06:33] <Arlain> in adnibistration/\>networking i get a disconnected message, and when trying to confiure it, it doesn't seem to scan for ssids
[06:33] <wastrel> plonemall:   that means you have synaptic open or another apt-get or aptitude running
[06:33] <plonemall> wastrel: both computer on the same router - so they will have diffrent ip  address?
[06:33] <l0rdbalthazar> How can I make useradd not copy the 'Examples' folder to the ~/ for users?
[06:33] <Antioch> How do I submit packages to the uni-/multiverse?
[06:33] <Arlain> it's almost as thought it's not trying.
[06:33] <rajlinux> Hi, I am searching for any article describing the serial driver layer changes from Linux kernel 2.4 to 2.5..can anybody help me?
[06:33] <wastrel> Arlain:  it doesn't scan.  for that you put in the ssid manually
[06:33] <Flannel> Antioch: what sort of patches?
[06:33] <wastrel> (but it works... :)
[06:33] <Arlain> i put in my ssid
[06:33] <Antioch> Flannel not a patch, a program that does not exist in it.
[06:33] <Arlain> tand it didn'
[06:33] <wastrel> and your wep key?
[06:34] <wastrel> do you have WPA Arlain ?
[06:34] <jase090> red, I always have troubles getting the device working
[06:34] <kylecasey> just bought my new battery backup and used synaptic to get the apc program installed any ideas as to why i cant find it anywhere?it does see the backup as being connected
[06:34] <Arlain> unencrypted wireless, again
[06:34] <Flannel> Antioch: ah.  #ubuntu-motu  go talk to the MOTU
[06:34] <DM|> so i think im going to update to Feisty today, how about it guys
[06:34] <DVS01> can i install windows games on an ext3 partition? (for use with wine)
[06:34] <Antioch> Thanks
[06:34] <wastrel> ok.
[06:34] <Arlain> i have mine that as eas, or whatever... but i am trying a network unencrypted at the moment
[06:34] <Amrog> if I want to install something other than ubuntu, but i want to preserve my settings for programs like firefox, can I do this?
[06:34] <kernel06> anyone have used airlink wireless mimo pcmcia with ubuntu 6.10. it detects it but i couldn't make it work....any idea...
[06:34] <jase090> DVS01, yes im sure you can
[06:34] <DVS01> cool
[06:34] <DM|> DVS01 yes
[06:34] <D--> Hey, is anyone running Fesity?
[06:34] <DM|> DVS01 i installed wow on my main partition ext3
[06:34] <D--> The new updates just TRASHED locale support
[06:34] <DVS01> werd
[06:35] <detectiveinspekt> I can't play DVD movies using totem or mplayer I have installed libdvdread3
[06:35] <jase090> anyone played Frets on Fire?
[06:35] <Arlain> it doesn't even ask for a WEP, it's demands that i give it an ascii password, or a hexidecimal one
[06:35] <D--> the Chinese and Japanese locals are mangled. You cannot even add them using dpkg-reconfigure
[06:35] <Arlain> is that laymans terms for wep key?
[06:35] <draeath> jase090, yes, and it ran horribly slow for what it is
[06:35] <puff> Is there anything special you need to do to get a PCMCIA wireless card working?
[06:35] <wastrel> Arlain:  yes
[06:35] <Flannel> D--: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty.  Also, launchpad.net for bug reports
[06:35] <draeath> Arlain, no
[06:35] <D--> I can never post to launchpad :-/
[06:35] <Arlain> ..
[06:35] <jase090> draeath, I had so much trouble trying to get it to work on xandros I gave up
[06:35] <Flannel> D--: why not?
[06:36] <kylecasey> anyone using apc with their system?
[06:36] <robbie_crash> Is there a way to change what unit terminal uses to show file sizes?
[06:36] <Arlain> well, i can't leave the field blank, with the correct ssid filled in,
[06:36] <D--> Flannel: Because it doesn't work
[06:36] <Arlain> when i hit close, anda happens
[06:36] <wastrel> Arlain:  afaik the "password" there is the wep key.  at least, when i put my wep key in the 'password' box it connects :] 
[06:36] <Arlain> stays disconnected
[06:36] <robbie_crash> Like change from KB to MB
[06:36] <wastrel> Arlain:  do you also have network-manager running ?
[06:36] <Flannel> robbie_crash: -h
[06:36] <exs> does anyone know any rss feds to keep up with ubuntu news and releases? thanks
[06:36] <Arlain> i don't beleive so
[06:37] <Arlain> i put on that wpa wireless app that conflicts with network manager
[06:37] <jase090> how do you switch between distros in linux?
[06:37] <robbie_crash> Flannel: but all across the board?
[06:37] <jase090> chroot?
[06:37] <Arlain> kwlan
[06:37] <kernel06> has anyone got wireless pcmcia card working
[06:37] <l0rdbalthazar> How can I make useradd not copy the 'Examples' folder to the ~/ for users?
[06:37] <Flannel> robbie_crash: eh?  That'd be for ls.
[06:37] <wastrel> ok.  well it's annoying but at this point i'd be looking at my /etc/network/interfaces   to make sure it looks sane
[06:37] <robbie_crash> like for top, df, and all that?
[06:37] <Flannel> robbie_crash: most of htem have an -h option, actually
[06:37] <wastrel> l0rdbalthazar:  remove the Examples link from /etc/skel
[06:37] <l0rdbalthazar> Thanks.
[06:37] <LordLimeca1> draeath: the will getting the feisty version work fine?
[06:37] <Arlain> i don't know what sane looks like in linux buddy
[06:37] <Arlain> first day here.
[06:37] <robbie_crash> ok, but nothing that you know of by default?
[06:38] <LordLimeca1> correction, git-ing
[06:38] <draeath> I like how I reported my but on 4/8 and have yet to even have a glance at it
[06:38] <DVS01> ooh
[06:38] <draeath> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/104319
[06:38] <DVS01> the new cedega looks very sweet =D
[06:38] <draeath> I even provided a fix!
[06:38] <jase090> draeath, how many dependencies did you have to compile yourself?
[06:38] <Arlain> draeath any ideas?
[06:38] <LordLimeca1> DVS01: is cedega really that much better than wine?
[06:38] <draeath> LordLimeca1, question: what do you need to roll your own for?
[06:38] <jase090> for FoF
[06:38] <draeath> jase090, I gave up and downloaded the windows binary :D
[06:39] <jase090> HEHE
[06:39] <deathbringer> hey
[06:39] <jase090> i no longer have WIN
[06:39] <LordLimeca1> draeath: after update to kernel headers (or somethin ) on saturday @ 7am, alsa and sound stopped working
[06:39] <draeath> jase090, I do, for things like Reason and FLStudio
[06:39] <plonemall> is there good firewall with ubuntu
[06:39] <bluefox83> heh, uh....what is the usual chmod level for letting a regular user read/write and access a file?
[06:39] <LordLimeca1> wishie in #alsa suggested that it will not work in this kernel
[06:39] <jase090> SAME HERE!
[06:39] <LordLimeca1> when trying to load the driver, i get a kernel oops
[06:39] <jase090> but lost Vista
[06:39] <pimpnasty> cedega works like a charm
[06:39] <Arlain> should i have network manager running?
[06:39] <plonemall> ok openssh installed
[06:39] <jase090> due to fiddling with linux
[06:39] <Flannel> robbie_crash: that is how.
[06:39] <draeath> pimpnasty, not when it comes to www.flstudio.com or properllerheads.se
[06:39] <Flannel> robbie_crash: er, not that I know of.  No.  I can't imagine there'd be one.
[06:39] <LordLimeca1> it was suggested that, since kernel saying oops=bad, a new kernel was needed
[06:40] <draeath> pimpnasty, some things just don't work in wine/winex
[06:40] <robbie_crash> ok, thanks!
[06:40] <wastrel> Arlain:  no
[06:40] <wastrel> Arlain:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15906/     that's my entry for eth1
[06:40] <pimpnasty> well for steam cedega hits it on the dog
[06:40] <pimpnasty> dot
[06:40] <wastrel> Arlain:  yours should look similar
[06:40] <jase090> draeath, Linux doesnt have the greatest music tools does it
[06:40] <draeath> LordLimeca1, hmm, personally Ive never had issues like that. I guess I just know my hardware REALLY well :D
[06:40] <pimpnasty> plus its only 5 dollars a month
[06:40] <deathbringer> how u all doin
[06:40] <jase090> anyone got RALINK wifi on ubuntu?
[06:40] <wastrel> Arlain:  (that's in /etc/network/interfaces)
[06:41] <draeath> jase090, no. It annoys me that I see all these programs that come for both Win and OSX... now how hard would a linux binary of some kind be?
[06:41] <Arlain> in the file browser?
[06:41] <LordLimeca1> draeath: we went through finding my hardware, compiling alsa, etc.....the utils and other part of alsa load fine, but loading the driver produces an oops
[06:41] <plonemall> wastrel: what to do now on the remote server?
[06:41] <draeath> jase090, my USB midi keyboard works out-of-the-box though.... but i have nothing to play it with!!
[06:41] <plonemall> wastrel: they both on the same ip
[06:41] <jase090> yeh i know the feeling!
[06:41] <draeath> LordLimeca1, hmm... that is ODD.
[06:42] <draeath> LordLimeca1, if in doubt, build them all as modules :)
[06:42] <LordLimeca1> draeath: also, i plan on upgrading to feisty, so....whats the WORST that could happen (other than me excluding some module that causes catastrophic overheating) :D
[06:42] <kernel06> anyone got airlink 101 mimo wireless working pls.
[06:42] <wastrel> plonemall?  that's impossible
[06:42] <wastrel> Arlain:  open it in an editor  (gksudo gedit...)
[06:42] <LordLimeca1> comp blows up=learn not to press that button
[06:42] <LordLimeca1> its all progress
[06:42] <draeath> lol
[06:42] <wastrel> Arlain:  welcome to linux, you're already editing text config files (sigh...)
[06:43] <LordLimeca1> thats why its so easy to learn windows
[06:43] <wastrel> :] 
[06:43] <user____> how do i revert to older version of wine?
[06:43] <draeath> fortunatly my BIOS let me set an alarm temp where the system will simply turn off.
[06:43] <LordLimeca1> unless i include some module that lets me do somthin stupid like access the bios and overwrite it :D
[06:43] <Arlain> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15907/
[06:43] <Arlain> wastrel
[06:43] <plonemall> wastrel: what is the way to check
[06:43] <Arlain> tell me why mine is so much larger.
[06:43] <draeath> LordLimeca1, heh good luck with that on x86
[06:43] <plonemall> wastrel: the routher is on dail up internet
[06:44] <wastrel> Arlain:  i only pasted the eth1 part.
[06:44] <plonemall> coneecting to router
[06:44] <draeath> LordLimeca1, hose your nvram all you want, your clock will hate you but thats pretty much it
[06:44] <wastrel> Arlain:  yours is broken, remove the "wireless-key" line  (line 10)
[06:44] <mbi> Is there an mrouted package for Ubuntu?
[06:44] <mbi> I can't seem to find one using apt-cache search mrouted
[06:44] <Dirka> hi there, i have a thinkpad t60 and am trying to install the proper drivers for my x1300 graphics card, and i cannot seem to edit the xorg.conf file
[06:45] <Arlain> ok.. after i modfy it, how do i overwrite it?
[06:45] <wastrel> Arlain:  did you open it with sudo?
[06:45] <Arlain> lol, what's sudo?
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[06:45] <draeath> :/
[06:45] <wastrel> gksudo/sudo
[06:45] <wastrel> !sudo | Arlain
[06:45] <ubotu> Arlain: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:45] <puff> Hm, so I normally use iwlist and iwconfig from the shell to configure my wireless.  A friend is a total linux newbie, what GUI tool for this purpose would you recommend?
[06:46] <wastrel> Arlain:  it's a system file so you need root "super user" privilidges to edit it
[06:46] <Arlain> so how do i run it in sudo? it's a text file isn't it?
[06:46] <draeath> puff, KDE or Gnome?
[06:46] <Flannel> Dirka: you'll need to use sudo as well.
[06:46] <GenNMX> Arlain: sudoedit
[06:46] <wastrel> Arlain:  you call the editor program with sudo
[06:46] <Flannel> Arlain: you run the editor with sudo, "sudo nano /file" or "gksu gedit /file"
[06:46] <puff> draeath: gnome.
[06:46] <draeath> Arlain, run your text editor with sudo in front "example, gksudo -S gedit /file
[06:47] <Dirka> i have tried the gksudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf, (an sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf)
[06:47] <wastrel> Arlain:  gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:47] <draeath> puff, the administration menu :) easiest way
[06:47] <Dirka> flannel: i used the sudo one first
[06:47] <wj32> hi
[06:47] <user____> how do i revert to older version of wine?
[06:47] <draeath> puff, but I suggest you just tell him to hit ctrl-alt-f1 and do it right :P
[06:47] <Flannel> Dirka: then you should be able to edit the file
[06:48] <Arlain> ok done
[06:48] <Arlain> now.. do i need to reboot or anything?
[06:48] <wastrel> Arlain:  try (command line)   sudo ifup eth1
[06:48] <Arlain> how do u reload said text file.
[06:48] <wj32> user____: make sure its still in the resps. Check the wine Package's properties to see if your version is in there.
[06:48] <puff> draeath: System/Administration/Networking I presume.  What's the GUI equiv to "sudo iwlist eth1 scan"?
[06:48] <wastrel> Arlain:  if you saved it, it should be changed
[06:48] <Crazytom> draeath, hey buddy
[06:48] <Arlain> wastrel, that command says it's already configured
[06:48] <draeath> puff, dunn
[06:48] <user____> tell me exactly how i do that
[06:48] <Crazytom> draeath, I reinstalled today
[06:49] <draeath> Crazytom, check your mail :D
[06:49] <Jump86> im having latop problems.. everytime i suspend i have to restart X before i can use the computer
[06:49] <wastrel> Arlain:  ok try  sudo ifdown eth1  then   sudo ifup eth1   again
[06:49] <draeath> Crazytom, jumping at shadows eh?
[06:49] <Dirka> flannel: Whenever i type that in i get this error message: (with the gksudo one) (gedit:5254): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[06:49] <Dirka> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[06:49] <wj32> user____: open up synaptic. right-click on the wine package. select Properties
[06:49] <draeath> Crazytom, even if i could do anything, im too much of a goody-two-shoes to do it
[06:49] <wj32> user____: Click on Versions. See if the version you want is there.
[06:49] <Falstius> puff: if you open up the network manager and click on the essid drop box, it should list available networks (I can't check the details at the moment, don't want to turn the laptop on)
[06:50] <Arlain> ok.. so now, after those 2 commands.. what?
[06:50] <Flannel> Dirka: this is where?  in a tty? or what?
[06:50] <Arlain> it's supposed to have wifi?
[06:50] <wastrel> Arlain:  try to access the net
[06:50] <wastrel> hopefully :] 
[06:50] <user____> yeah it is i guess 9.22
[06:50] <user____> now what?
[06:50] <draeath> wastrel, i miss the days of ndiswrapper
[06:50] <Dirka> Flannel: uhhh...whats a tty? i just went apps/accesories/terminal
[06:51] <wj32> user____: is wine already installed? if so, goto Package -> Force Version... and select the version that you want. then Apply.
[06:51] <Arlain> i am already on the net budyd
[06:51] <Arlain> using a hardwire cat5
[06:51] <draeath> Dirka, TeleType Terminal. old slang for a terminal :)
[06:51] <user____> ok
[06:51] <wastrel> Arlain:  try iwconfig  then see what it gives you
[06:51] <draeath> Dirka, i think :)
[06:51] <user____> and that's it?
[06:51] <Flannel> Dirka, draeath, no a tty is the real terminals, like ctrl-alt-f#, what he opened was a virtual terminal, inside of gnome, yadda yadda
[06:51] <Arlain> same stuff wastrel :/
[06:52] <Mercury> Is there a packages.debian.org like thinggy for ubuntu that will let me read the changelog for a package in fiesty without having to grab the whole package and take it apart?
[06:52] <draeath> Flannel, aah he opened a DOS window :P
[06:52] <Jump86> anyone here running ubuntu on a laptop?
[06:52] <Flannel> Dirka: The warning happens.  Did gedit open?  I don't thnk Ive seen the latter error, but I havent used a GUI in a while.
[06:52] <wj32> user____: yes, but does it work?
[06:52] <draeath> Jump86, yep.
[06:52] <user____> didn't change..
[06:52] <Falstius> draeath: this is a family channel, watch your language ;)
[06:52] <wastrel> Arlain:  i done what i knows to do :]    good luck, i gotta get some sleep
[06:52] <user____> i still see 9.35 (now)
[06:52] <Dirka> yes, gedit opened to an empty document
[06:52] <Flannel> Dirka: What command did you give it exactly?
[06:52] <wj32> user____: so... you've installed 9.22 already?
[06:52] <Arlain> anyone ehre know anything about getting a wireless to connect right?
[06:53] <Jump86> draeath, do suspend a hibernate work well for you? i have to restart x after using suspend and hibernate crashes my laptop to where the power button being held down doesnt even reboot.. have to take out battery
[06:53] <wj32> user____: ok, what did Apply do
[06:53] <user____> it was installed.. then i updated yesterday..
[06:53] <Falstius> Arlain: what is the wireless card?
[06:53] <Flannel> Dirka: That worked ultimately.  In gedit, navigate to the file you want.
[06:53] <Arlain> intell pro wirless 2200
[06:53] <Dirka> gksudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[06:53] <draeath> Jump86, no, none of that works for me (but almost no power management does, even in windows. its a peice of junk)
[06:53] <Arlain> at leats i beleive so, it's def an intel card, and that's what the pc detected?
[06:53] <user____> oh didn't press apply
[06:53] <user____> :)
[06:53] <draeath> user____, PUSH the shiny, candy-like button!
[06:53] <wj32> user____: lol
[06:54] <user____> i did
[06:54] <redwyrm> Arlain, the 2200 wants firmware
[06:54] <user____> now it's downloading wine ..
[06:54] <Arlain> ok.. so.. how do i go about doing that?
[06:54] <draeath> user____, but where's the earth-shattering Kaboom?
[06:54] <redwyrm> it needs to be loaded every time after rebooting
[06:54] <wj32> user____: is your cache set to delete itself every day or something?
[06:54] <Jump86> draeath, hmm it works for me in vista / xp... i have a pretty recent laptop so it should be working.. eh well, i can guess i can deal w/ it
[06:54] <Flannel> Dirka: it has to do with gksudo mangling the filename.  If you want to avoid it, `gksu "gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf"`
[06:54] <LordLimeca1> draeath: i want to use arch=i386, but with K8 optimizations, correct?
[06:54] <wj32> user____: i recommend setting it to not delete anything in your cache.
[06:54] <Dirka> oh, there we go! got the file
[06:54] <user____> didn't set it.. it's default i guess
[06:54] <LordLimeca1> i want as little breakage as possible
[06:54] <Dirka> navigated to it
[06:54] <Arlain> went through hell finding the linux drivers.. where's this firmware gonna be found?
[06:54] <draeath> LordLimeca1, what CPU?
[06:54] <wj32> user____: so if you want to downgrade or create your own package CD, you can use your cache
[06:55] <LordLimeca1> athalon64, single core
[06:55] <Falstius> Arlain: the firmware and driver can be downloaded from the project website http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
[06:55] <user____> i wouldn't want that :))
[06:55] <LordLimeca1> ill take amd64 if it doesnt break everythin
[06:55] <draeath> LordLimeca1, if you have the choice, choose 'nocona'
[06:55] <user____> i just play wow in linux  :) nothing more
[06:55] <redwyrm> (the firmware is closed-source)
[06:55] <Falstius> Arlain: there is a link to the firmware in the requirements section.
[06:55] <wj32> user____: ok.
[06:55] <draeath> LordLimeca1, wait! NO! thats intel...
[06:55] <user____> it's nice that it has open office .. and gaim
[06:55] <LordLimeca1> im being told to look for my config in debian/config/arch
[06:55] <Arlain> i have the "firmware" from there..
[06:56] <LordLimeca1> i can choose amd64 or i386
[06:56] <user____> also with gaim i have a problem .. i can't receive files from yahoo ..
[06:56] <Flannel> Dirka: let me know how it works out.  Im getting a t60 soon, trying to decide between the ATI and the intel.
[06:56] <wj32> user____: nice! thats what ubuntu good for. home users who just browse the internet, play games, and crap
[06:56] <draeath> LordLimeca1, i used to be a rabid AMD fan and sometimes have flashbacks :)
[06:56] <wj32> user____: i can't help you there. contact the pidgin developers
[06:56] <SeveredHead> AMD's gone down the tubes lately.
[06:56] <wj32> gaim is pidgin now
[06:56] <LordLimeca1> o.0 amd WAS faster till core2
[06:56] <Arlain> if that's where the firmware is, where the hell is the driver?
[06:56] <SeveredHead> Actually, Core Duo
[06:56] <SeveredHead> Not Core 2
[06:56] <LordLimeca1> SeveredHead: is it possible that intel finally caught up for the moment?
[06:56] <Falstius> Arlain: well, I have an intel minipci 2100 card that 'just works', I'll be happy to swap it for yours.
[06:56] <SeveredHead> Core Duo was when intel started to smack AMD around. :)
[06:56] <LordLimeca1> and that amd will do the same in a few months?
[06:56] <SeveredHead> Core 2 is far and ahead.
[06:57] <SeveredHead> LordLimeca1: I doubt it.
[06:57] <LordLimeca1> SeveredHead: its back and forth
[06:57] <draeath> Hey, I'm happy with my Pentium D 805. only $95
[06:57] <SeveredHead> They're still using a 90nm process for mult-core, while Intel's moving on to 45nm for their next chips.
[06:57] <Falstius> Arlain: the firmware and driver are both there ... I'm not sure what all you did before.
[06:57] <LordLimeca1> pentium d=crap -_-
[06:57] <draeath> OC to 4ghz! Hoah!
[06:57] <LordLimeca1> although theres that one pentium d
[06:57] <LordLimeca1> yea, thats the one
[06:57] <draeath> nothing like 2 4ghz cores with 1mb cache each
[06:57] <Arlain> that lead directly to a set of mirrors, discussing possible problems with firmware, but not exactly outlining what is wrong
[06:57] <draeath> throw in the dual-channel DRAM...
[06:57] <draeath> partay time!
[06:57] <LordLimeca1> cept its still a pent, and doesnt compare mhz for mhz to amd or core2
[06:58] <Arlain> i downlaoded the source there, compiled it, and made a "module"?
[06:58] <draeath> ah
[06:58] <wj32> draeath: are there cpus with 4 or 8mb caches?
[06:58] <LordLimeca1> im sure its a good space heater tho :D
[06:58] <Arlain> i'm new to linux, excuse me
[06:58] <redwyrm> Arlain, what does dmesg have to say about it?
[06:58] <draeath> LordLimeca im happy with my > 5.5k bogomips at 2.66ghz
[06:58] <draeath> LordLimeca1, thats per core, mind you
[06:58] <Arlain> redwyrm
[06:58] <Arlain> you don't want that entire print out
[06:58] <draeath> wj32, yes but after 1mb you start to loose preformance
[06:58] <Arlain> it was long
[06:58] <wj32> Arlain: you're new, and you COMPILED something? thats contradictory to current claims
[06:59] <draeath> wj32, the internal addresses get larger etc
[06:59] <wj32> draeath: why is that
[06:59] <Falstius> Arlain: so did you download the firmware in addition to the source?  (it looks like there is some long license you have to agree to).
[06:59] <Arlain> uh.. i deleted the old modules, and compiled? i guess? using make commands?
[06:59] <chowmeined> who needs help?
[06:59] <wj32> draeath: but not much. from 2bits to 4bits yes. but the cpus native bit-width is 32 or 64-bits
[06:59] <Arlain> dude, i'm not sure what make commands are, first day.
[06:59] <draeath> wj32, seek-time on the transistors gets longer (takes longer to flash through 7mb to than 900k
[06:59] <Arlain> seemed to compile something
[06:59] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> hmm.. is 7.10 gonna make my harddrive /dev/sda or keep it /dev/hda?
[06:59] <cafuego> I need help, but you are probably not a registered medical professional.
[07:00] <wj32> draeath: thats hardware stuff, i know next to nothing about hardware
[07:00] <draeath> wj32, thats on the bus, though. L2 is a bit diff
[07:00] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> anyone know? :x
[07:00] <LordLimeca1> draeath: i use tomshardware guides and real world benchmarks for comparison :D
[07:00] <sword_> i am trying to install libdvdcss2 (for playing dvd) but error message says Depend:libc6 even though i already have installed libc6...any suggestions?
[07:01] <LordLimeca1> i got a pent d for a client server, and i have to say....the performance was quite underwhelming
[07:01] <draeath> wj32, just stick to 1mb per core, with todays high cache-accuracy you dont really need more
[07:01] <wj32> Arlain: you know what compiling is? thats even better :)
[07:01] <LordLimeca1> my home computer ran faster on a xp 3200
[07:01] <Arlain> i'm not new to computers
[07:01] <Arlain> jsut linux
[07:01] <Arlain> anyways.
[07:01] <wj32> draeath: i have an intel p4 2.44ghz. so sad.
[07:01] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> -_-
[07:01] <draeath> LordLimeca1, what, and making my CPU spin isn't a real measure :) my CPU is very efficient at doing nothing.
[07:01] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> SysInfo: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz 1695.254 MHz Bogomips: 3394.71
[07:01] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> :o
[07:01] <LordLimeca1> draeath: yea, i looked that up...i like that :D
[07:01] <draeath> wj32, bogomips        : 5318.71    per core :P
[07:02] <Falstius> wj32: I have a pentium 233 :-P
[07:02] <Arlain> falstius, i only see 1 downlaod there, and i am not sure enoguh about filetypes to tell you what it is
[07:02] <Arlain> i see no terms or anything
[07:02] <LordLimeca1> seriously, amd will be back on top in 1 year, tops
[07:02] <draeath> eh
[07:02] <LordLimeca1> then intel will whomp em again, or optionally pull another RDram stunt
[07:02] <Arlain> you are talking about the sourceforge page, right?
[07:02] <Crazytom> Xenocide, i've got an offtopic question for you
[07:02] <draeath> i just go for the best bang for the buck at the time of purchase
[07:02] <LordLimeca1> we all know how well that went :D
[07:03] <LordLimeca1> btw, if you have RDRAM, i suggest selling it, its worth its weight in...platinum o.0
[07:03] <LordLimeca1> like $500 for 1gb, thats like 300 grams
[07:03] <draeath> Its not even good memory!
[07:03] <Falstius> Arlain: yes .. did you read the "requirements section, it is about a half page down.  They link to drivers, firmware and INSTALL instructions (you don't need to compile the wireless extensions or the kernel yourself)
[07:03] <LordLimeca1> its...sort of good
[07:03] <LordLimeca1> runs fast
[07:03] <LordLimeca1> but thats not the point, 1gb of rdram is REALLY rarre
[07:03] <draeath> :/
[07:04] <LordLimeca1> for a while sdram was almost as bad
[07:04] <LordLimeca1> because routers and firewalls use it
[07:04] <LordLimeca1> (which doesnt explain their price -_-)
[07:04] <draeath> When my CPU/Ram can fill my hard drive in seconds worth of activity (ignore the speed of the drive) i don't think it REALLY matters :D
[07:05] <LordLimeca1> ive always sort of not noticed any difference with ram speed changes o.0
[07:05] <Arlain> ok falstius my bad, i see that now
[07:05] <LordLimeca1> mebbe im crazy...but cpu seems way more noticeable
[07:05] <Arlain> now
[07:05] <Arlain> i have firmware, wtf do i do with it?
[07:05] <wj32> LordLimeca1: i think the hd is more noticeable
[07:05] <LordLimeca1> seems like a waste to pay $300 for BFG UBER LEET 1033mhz 2-2-2-3 ram
[07:06] <LordLimeca1> wj32: only when stuff loads...which if ram is working right, you shouldnt really ever experience but once per game/os load
[07:06] <zbrown> Crucial Value ram is just as good as any :)
[07:06] <LordLimeca1> :)
[07:06] <wj32> LordLimeca1: ram only matters if you have <1gb, where swapping will kill lyou
[07:06] <Landon> Hey all, does anyone have Unreal tournament 2004 installed on their computer?
[07:06] <LordLimeca1> wj32:  THAT i will agree with,
[07:07] <Falstius> Arlain: read the install file, it has detailed instructions, just skip to steps 8 then 10.
[07:07] <wj32> LordLimeca1: if you have heaps of ram, the os can cache stuff just like that stupid superfetch stuff which we already have
[07:07] <LordLimeca1> or if you have vista, with its--i kid you not--510 mb of SERVICES @ boot
[07:07] <Arlain> got wireless tools, driver, what do i do with the firmware now?
[07:07] <LordLimeca1> (oh the humanity)
[07:07] <Arlain> there's no isntall file in the firmware bundle.. hmm
[07:07] <Falstius> Arlain: there is one linked in the requirements section.
[07:07] <LordLimeca1> i feel bad for vista...it had REAL potential, and it was wasted on shoving drm onto comps.....
[07:07] <draeath> Well, thats annoying
[07:07] <LordLimeca1> i mean i was hyped
[07:07] <Arlain> meh, kk
[07:08] <LordLimeca1> then i tried it and was like....why?
[07:08] <draeath> Wesnoth's ./configure is whining about SDL_image when I HAVE SDL-IMAGE 1.2 DEV
[07:08] <LordLimeca1> plus, for someone whos so proficient @ xp, the rearrangement was a killer
[07:08] <wj32> wth... irc has bold, underline and colours?
[07:08] <LordLimeca1> sort of figure, might as well switch to ubuntu, since it handles xp programs better than vista :D
[07:09] <LordLimeca1> and has more driver support to boot
[07:09] <wj32> LordLiemca1: aero subtracts 30fps from your game performance
[07:09] <LordLimeca1> wj32: THAT, id have to dbl check on, pretty sure itd be unloaded @ fullscreen game load
[07:09] <arrenlex> wj32: How? After the window is rendered, unless you move it around what difference does it make?
[07:09] <LordLimeca1> it may just be the lack of opengl?  or crappy drivers?
[07:10] <LordLimeca1> or all the DRM checks running in the background?
[07:10] <LordLimeca1> test on a non-aero system
[07:10] <jessid> hi...some of you know if it is possible to make totem to play DVDs?
[07:10] <draeath> there... set to ignore the SDL test suite. lets see if spacetime rips when I compile it
[07:10] <LordLimeca1> a friend cant even play counterstrike source ---
[07:10] <wj32> LordLimeca1: not true, in PC User magazine they tested several vista gaming pcs. the fastest one was Vista Basic with NVIDIA 8800GTS 320mb
[07:10] <LordLimeca1> -_-
[07:10] <LordLimeca1> o.0
[07:10] <LordLimeca1> wierd
[07:11] <LordLimeca1> well, it MAY be drivers.....
[07:11] <wj32> LordLimeca1: the slowest ones all ran Vista Premium with NVIDIA 8800GTX 768mb
[07:11] <draeath> hmm
[07:11] <Falstius> LordLimeca1: I have vista (and XP, and win2k) in virtual machines just in case I need them.  Switching to linux really is fairly painless.
[07:11] <LordLimeca1> a friend cant play CS: source with a 7900 and a amd64
[07:11] <draeath> I love bloat
[07:11] <LordLimeca1> Falstius: dualboot/virtual machine FTW
[07:11] <LordLimeca1> or dualbox
[07:11] <draeath> LordLimeca1, I can play CS source on my chip, with a geforece FX 5200 256mb
[07:11] <andre__> just came back from the world of arch
[07:11] <wj32> Anyone played Nexuiz? Anyone noticed its extreme slow performance?
[07:11] <LordLimeca1> in vista?
[07:11] <F-nkyMNK> For some reason, I can no longer 'sudo' any commands... I changed my clock over to NTP, and then i was getting a timestamp error... I followed forum instructions to 'sudo -k' and that solved it, but now i cant 'sudo' at all.... any ideas?
[07:12] <Falstius> LordLimeca1: dual boot is an unecessary headache.  with VM, you can alt-tab between operating systems.
[07:12] <Timequake> howdy, is someone able to tell me the location of the folders the applications menu uses?
[07:12] <draeath> LordLimeca1, hell no, vista will NOT touch my equipment
[07:12] <draeath> pardon the language
[07:12] <LordLimeca1> Falstius: vm=overhead tho, and more of a pain to me
[07:12] <andre__> boy ubuntu has changed since lts
[07:12] <LordLimeca1> dunno why
[07:12] <LordLimeca1> reboots dont really bother me
[07:12] <draeath> Falstius, wake me when the VMs handle things like graphics cards :P
[07:13] <LordLimeca1> i may try VM in feisty tho
[07:13] <Kikkoman> When I run ntfs-config as root, I cannot add support for internal device,  can anyone help?
[07:13] <Falstius> LordLimeca1: well, I don't play games, and its really only video overhead that is a problem (some things like encoders are faster in a VM)
[07:13] <wj32> Reboots bother me, the XFS check takes like 10 secs
[07:13] <wj32> another JFS check also takes 10 secs
[07:13] <LordLimeca1> Falstius: thats pretty much why you would use windows, isnt it
[07:13] <draeath> wj32, reiserfs FTW
[07:13] <LordLimeca1> that, and the paperclip
[07:13] <draeath> journal replay: 0.2 seconds
[07:13] <wj32> and my /home XFS check takes a further 10 secs
[07:13] <Kikkoman> !ntfs Kikkoman
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs kikkoman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <Kikkoman> .
[07:13] <Kikkoman> !ntfs
[07:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:13] <wj32> I've heard heaps of bad stuff about ReiserFS
[07:13] <Kikkoman> !ntfs-3g
[07:13] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:14] <Arlain> ok.. so.. transfering files from where i extracted them to the "hotplug" or "firmware" directory.. how do i do that? get a ton of errors
[07:14] <draeath> Kikkoman: you wanted "/msg ubotu ntfs"
[07:14] <wj32> I frequently get crashes with fglrx. So, I need reliability
[07:14] <andre__> to view windows parttions just get feisty
[07:14] <draeath> wj32, dont buy ATI
[07:14] <draeath> wj32, LP
[07:14] <Falstius> LordLimeca1: no, I need office compatibility sometimes, plus the matlab as a student I have is windows only, running MSVC++ (for some projects I inherited), etc.
[07:14] <arrenlex> wj32: Get nvidia or intel
[07:14] <wj32> That was from when I used Windows
[07:14] <draeath> wj32, intel if you enjoy rights, nvidia if you enjoy FPS and features
[07:14] <wj32> I can rely on XFS to zero-fill my files
[07:14] <Arlain> ok falstius, still with me?
[07:15] <draeath> wj32, hope you have a UPS
[07:15] <wj32> I don't. How is an UPS meant to help with crashes?
[07:15] <andre__> have you guys tried feisty yet
[07:15] <Falstius> Arlain: yes, but as soon as xubuntu finishes installing my on 10 year old laptop, I'm going to bed :)
[07:15] <draeath> wj32, XFS can die nasty on a sudden unclean dismount
[07:15] <Arlain> ok, i'll be quick then
[07:15] <Arlain> ok.. so.. transfering files from where i extracted them to the "hotplug" or "firmware" directory.. how do i do that? get a ton of errors
[07:16] <Arlain> got firmware files, from directory, i think, to transfer em to.
[07:16] <Arlain> but.. i cna't get them there
[07:16] <draeath> Arlain, probably need privs
[07:16] <Falstius> Arlain: in the terminal, you can use sudo cp files_from files_to_directory/
[07:16] <jessid> is it possible to make totem to reproduce DVDs???
[07:16] <Falstius> so to copy all the files in some directory, sudo cp some/directory/* to/someother/directory/
[07:17] <wj32> Once XFS blanked my Beryl plugins. The actual .so files
[07:17] <PoofDaddy> what's a good program to burn mp3s on a CD?
[07:17] <Arlain> ok.. so sudo cp fileswith slashes betwen the to?
[07:17] <wj32> Once I started up Ubuntu and XFS was returning I/O errors for every single bloody read. A simple reboot fixed that.
[07:17] <neozen> bloody hell.... I just spent the last 30 minutes explaining to someone how to paste
[07:17] <jnsears> i was trying to move my /home to a bigger partition, and now my machine won't boot to the point where I can connect via ssh.  I have only a Radeon 8500 video card with DVI and VGA out and only a DVI-only monitor.  The machine won't display on the DVI until X is running, and I can't get in remotely.  Any suggestions?
[07:17] <neozen> I want to die
[07:17] <Falstius> the slashes are for directories.  The * means all files.
[07:17] <neozen> where's my beer!
[07:17] <user____> how do i install "radeon" drivers?
[07:17] <Arlain> sudo cp /home/leslie/Desktop/
[07:18] <wj32> jnsears: have you got OpenSSH running?
[07:18] <Arlain> confused*
[07:18] <Arlain> ?
[07:18] <arrenlex> neozen: what more than ctrl+c, ctrl+v is there to say?
[07:18] <jnsears> wj: no
[07:18] <neozen> arrenlex: she said that didn't work
[07:18] <jnsears> or i don't think so
[07:18] <jnsears> i think it's sshd
[07:18] <neozen> ARG!
[07:18] <wj32> jnsears: yes, so don't expect to SSH in if you haven't got an SSH server running
[07:18] <draeath> arrenlex: select middle-click
[07:18] <neozen> so I told her to just hit her middle button
[07:18] <arrenlex> draeath: Not if you want to avoid explaining.
[07:18] <neozen> ...she couldn't seem to manage that
[07:18] <jnsears> wj: there was an ssh server running
[07:19] <neozen> excuse me
[07:19] <wj32> jnsears: ok, then maybe its not being started?
[07:19] <neozen> *the user* couldn't seem to manage that
[07:19] <jnsears> prior to my f-ing around with my partitions
[07:19] <jnsears> yeah i think so
[07:19] <pavs> i have this error while trying to update E: dovecot-common: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 89
[07:19] <Falstius> Arlain: if you extracted the files to your desktop and you need to type, sudo cp /home/leslie/Desktop/*.fw /lib/firmware/
[07:19] <wj32> jnsears: /home OR Xorg wouldnt break ssh
[07:19] <Selenolupus> How would I set VLC to be the default application for opening .avi files?
[07:19] <Jump86>  is 16:9 the right aspect ratio for a 1280 x 800 monitor?
[07:19] <neozen> I've encountered plenty of men who can't grasp the concept of a middle mouse-button
[07:19] <jnsears> if i boot from a liveCD will I be able to get in remotely
[07:19] <jnsears> ?
[07:19] <Steil> Whats faster, reiser3 or ext3?
[07:19] <neozen> Steil: depends on file sizes
[07:19] <wj32> jnsears: does the LiveCD work graphcially?
[07:19] <scottam> jump86: no i think
[07:20] <jnsears> i haven't tried it
[07:20] <draeath> Steil, depends on usage. reiser is better for lots of smaller files usually but doesn't really slow down much
[07:20] <Flying-Penguin> yes.. it does
[07:20] <ArtVandalae> wj32, yes
[07:20] <wj32> Steil: reiser = small, xfs/jfs=large
[07:20] <neozen> Steil:  reiser is supposed to be faster with a bunch of little ones
[07:20] <derek_> Hi
[07:20] <Jump86> scottam, whats the right one? or how do find it?
[07:20] <derek_> On running desktop-effects, I get "The Composite extension is not available" , and in the console it says: nvidia hardware not available. (I have ATI graphics hardware, not nvidia)
[07:20] <arrenlex> Jump86: No. Use the calculator.
[07:20] <jnsears> i'm not sure i'll even be able to get it to boot, b/c of the video card issue i can't get into the bios
[07:20] <scottam> jump86: 1280x800 is 16:10
[07:20] <neozen> I'ma switch back to ext3 soon
[07:20] <jnsears> not sure what my boot devices order is
[07:20] <neozen> reiser just seems to dern slow when mounting
[07:20] <wj32> Steil: ext2=fast deleting reiser=fast deleting xfs/jfs=slow deleting
[07:20] <Arlain> ok
[07:20] <Falstius> Steil: if your harddrive partitioning skips any numbers, don't use reiserfs (I learned that last week when home partition seemed to have FUBARed)
[07:20] <Arlain> falstius, how do i.. load said firmware?
[07:20] <scottam> wj32: ext3?
[07:21] <wj32> ive heard of people mounting reiser partitions in 1 min
[07:21] <wj32> thats bad
[07:21] <jnsears> is there anything to try with no display?
[07:21] <foug> !wine
[07:21] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:21] <redwyrm> I wouldn't want a filesystem that I couldn't read with a rescue livecd
[07:21] <wj32> redwyrm: no GFS2 or ZFS
[07:21] <Falstius> Arlain: once the firmware is in /lib/firmware the driver should  find it (reload the driver)
[07:21] <Arlain> files transfered.. how do i make my wireless work now? lol
[07:21] <ArtVandalae> Use ext3, it's probably the most accessible filesystem, bar fat32
[07:22] <Arlain> ok, how do i do that?
[07:22] <neozen> wj32: yeah... its kinda like that
[07:22] <wj32> ArtVandalae: ext2?
[07:22] <neozen> wj32: takes 30-45 secs to mount my root
[07:22] <neozen> that seems really slow to me
[07:22] <Arlain> ok, how do i do that?
[07:22] <neozen> its only 5gb
[07:22] <Falstius> Arlain: sudo rmmod ipw2200 && modprobe ipw2200
[07:22] <neozen> shouldn't take that #@$#@!$#@ long
[07:22] <wj32> neozen: takes xfs 10 secs to mount a partition. i have two xfs partitions and one jfs
[07:22] <arrenlex> What are you guys running? It takes less than a second to mount.
[07:23] <wj32> neozen: then /boot with ext2 and swap with swap
[07:23] <neozen> a 1.4 celeron
[07:23] <neozen> 1gb ram
[07:23] <neozen> 5gb /
[07:23] <neozen> 1gb swap
[07:23] <wj32> 2.44ghz p4. 1gb ram.
[07:23] <neozen> 20gb /home
[07:23] <neozen> and mounting root takes bloody ages
[07:23] <ArtVandalae> wj32, AFAIK ext3 has replaced ext2. I really don't know anyone who still runs ext3. I mean ext3 = ext2 + journalling. So there's minimal disadvantages of ext3 over ext2
[07:24] <wj32> ArtVandalae: .
[07:24] <EvilDennisR> wj32: ArtVandalae is correct..
[07:24] <pavs> i have this error while trying to update E: dovecot-common: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 89
[07:24] <draeath> how can I grep for -dev
[07:24] <wj32> bye. although im not leaving.
[07:24] <draeath> grep doesn't like -
[07:24] <Arlain> connection failed, falstius
[07:24] <scottam> mounting shouldn't take time unless it needs to run a filesystem check....my computer mounts 4 different filesystems at boot, all in under 2 minutes
[07:24] <neozen> ArtVandalae: logic error
[07:24] <EvilDennisR> wj32: I was going to say something but I figured it might of been a typ0
[07:24] <arrenlex> draeath: grep "-dev"
[07:24] <Falstius> Arlain: did the driver load without errors?
[07:24] <wj32> EvilDennisR: i didn't say he wasn't correct. "." means ok.
[07:24] <draeath> grep: unknown directories method
[07:24] <Arlain> it didn't say anything
[07:24] <arrenlex> draeath: grep "\-dev"
[07:24] <ArtVandalae> neozen, ?
[07:24] <Arlain> the command didn't print anything
[07:24] <Arlain> neither did
[07:25] <draeath> arrenlex, ty
[07:25] <neozen> ArtVandalae: think you made a typo up there
[07:25] <Arlain> rmmod ipw2200 didn't print any text
[07:25] <EvilDennisR> wj32: I wasn't saying you were disagreeing, I was mearly stating my agreement with him
[07:25] <ArtVandalae> neozen, ah yes, thanks :)
[07:25] <andre__> hey is it worth installing debian kde 64bit
[07:25] <Falstius> Arlain: that means it loaded without errors (it doesn't mean it found any hardware though).  And iwconfig does or doesn't have an entry for the wireless?
[07:25] <neozen> ArtVandalae: when you spend a ton of time with compilers... you start to sound like them
[07:25] <arrenlex> andre__: Stay away from 64-bit. There are no advantages on a desktop system, but lots of headaches.
[07:25] <neozen> ArtVandalae: sorry 'bout that
[07:26] <neozen> ArtVandalae: at least I didn't throw a parse error.....
[07:26] <andre__> ya cant find packages for one
[07:26] <foug> what's a good place to install folders? like Program Files for windows? would it be best to make my own folder?
[07:26] <neozen> ArtVandalae: you can actually hear brain cells frying when that happens
[07:26] <Arlain> the wireless exists on iwconfig, but it's still saying no connection, etc
[07:26] <Arlain> eth1 as always has an entry
[07:26] <neozen> foug: install folders?
[07:26] <andre__> are you guys using feisty
[07:26] <user____> how do i uninstall my current ati
[07:26] <user____> drivers?
[07:26] <zbrown> andre__: i am
[07:27] <foug> neozen: o i mean install things, sorry
[07:27] <dukelordx> vimalg2: i do
[07:27] <andre__> boy it changed since lts
[07:27] <zcat[1] > foug: "Wherever the package puts them"
[07:27] <foug> neozen: was thinking too fast, meant to say a good place to install things
[07:27] <neozen> foug: what... like things you compiled from source?
[07:27] <ArtVandalae> neozen, haha, dw I know what you mean :D
[07:27] <Falstius> Arlain: what is the name of the wireless device (wlan0, eth2?)
[07:27] <rappo> I've just setup my nvidia drivers, they work great. I installed Beryl and that seems to be fine EXCEPT the window manager! i get no window manager at all :( the same is true if i try to use Compiz
[07:27] <foug> zcat[1] : well it's wherever i want, installing a program with wine
[07:27] <Arlain> eth1
[07:27] <ubuntuEdgy> how do i undo a symbolic link ?
[07:27] <rappo> any suggestions?
[07:27] <foug> neozen: nah a media player i'm installing through wine
[07:27] <neozen> foug: AH
[07:27] <arrenlex> rappo: Beryl IS the window manager.
[07:27] <Arlain> it's weird dude, i have alot of devices i don't have'
[07:27] <ArtVandalae> ubuntuEdgy, remove the "link"
[07:27] <scottam> ubuntuedgy: unlink
[07:27] <neozen> foug: that's a horse of a different color
[07:27] <th> hello. anyone else here noticed that latest -15 kernel update simply KILLS nvidia drivers? neither works anymore, not official drivers nor nvidia-glx package? bug -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/106434/
[07:27] <andre__> it loaded my windows partitons and even loaded my bookmars that i had on firefor now that is sweet
[07:28] <waldo> anyone have an idea why when I boot the ubuntu beta I get simply the word "GRUB"?
[07:28] <th> i guess i'm stuck with -14 kernel
[07:28] <zcat[1] > in wine, I guess do whatever you'd do in windows.
[07:28] <Falstius> Arlain: okay, try "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <your network> && sudo ifconfig eth1 up && sudo dhclient eth1
[07:28] <rappo> arrenlex: well i get all the fancypants effects, but no title bar or anything, if i go back to metacity I'm fine
[07:28] <ArtVandalae> waldo, does it still boot successfully?
[07:28] <rappo> but with compiz or beryl I get nothing
[07:28] <Arlain> i am getting lo (local lopp i assume?) etho (hardwired lan i am on now)
[07:28] <neozen> th: the reports on feisty make me glad I have an intel card
[07:28] <Arlain> and eth1
[07:28] <Arlain> and sit1
[07:28] <Arlain> and irda1
[07:28] <neozen> and two main computers
[07:28] <waldo> ArtVandalae: i can boot off the livecd no problem
[07:28] <arrenlex> rappo: Right-click on the emerald and select beryl (or emerald, I guess) as your window manager. Does that solve anything?
[07:29] <Arlain> sit1 and irda1 i have no idea what thos are
[07:29] <andre__> were would i find libdvdcss and webcam drivers
[07:29] <ubuntuEdgy> so if it was ln -s /home/user /home/test       will i have to run  ln -s /home/user
[07:29] <rappo> arrenlex: no, that's what I tried
[07:29] <waldo> ArtVandalae: but I just get the word "GRUB" when booting off the HD.  I can boot off the livecd then choose "boot off hard drive" and it works
[07:29] <neozen> irda1: is probably an ir port on your computer
[07:29] <rappo> the only thing that works in that method is metacity
[07:29] <zPacKRat> feisty with fglrx drivers and all is well on my 9600
[07:29] <neozen> sit1: is probably a vpn adapter
[07:29] <th> neozen: just don't start trolling, intel fuckolacraps won't work for gaming
[07:29] <arrenlex> !ohmy | th
[07:29] <neozen> th: lol
[07:29] <ubotu> th: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:29] <neozen> th: no trolling here
[07:30] <exs> does anyone know a pop3 (email) checker?.. Thanks.
[07:30] <th> ubotu: yes, sorry, i'm just frustrated this kernel upgrade
[07:30] <thespore> i just put in a wireless card (rt73 driver), and have it up and running.. but i can't see my windows network now..
[07:30] <Falstius> Arlain: just ignore them.  did you try the commands I suggested?
[07:30] <neozen> th: and the only gaming I do involves either a text adventure, or an emulator
[07:30] <rappo> arrenlex: any more suggestions?
[07:30] <th> neozen: very interesting. but i do game, and that's not excuse for breaking the drivers anyway
[07:30] <Arlain> first command says unrecognized request "ssid"
[07:30] <ArtVandalae> waldo, GRUB is the boot loader. it allows you to boot into Ubuntu. Not sure what's going on here though. So it just says "GRUB" and doesn't give you any menus? Have you had a look at boot order in the BIOS, or tried entering anything at the GRUB prompt?
[07:30] <waldo> anyone have an idea why when I boot the ubuntu beta I get simply the word "GRUB"?
[07:30] <Falstius> Arlain: essid
[07:30] <neozen> th: I agree completely
[07:30] <Arlain> ah
[07:31] <neozen> th: and while I am sympathetic to your woes... I don't share them
[07:31] <waldo> ArtVandalae: yeah just the word "GRUB"-- it won't let me type anything..  the keystroke buffer fills up and then I get some beeping when it's full
[07:31] <vimalg1> hello room
[07:31] <neozen> th: sorry life's sucking mon
[07:31] <neozen> th: best of luck
[07:31] <waldo> ArtVandalae: there's no prompt or anything
[07:31] <Kikkoman> Can someone help me edit grub to notice windows?
[07:31] <ArtVandalae> waldo, I remember hearing about a ATA driver problems in the beta. Do you have a IDE HDD?
[07:31] <waldo> ArtVandalae: it's a laptop
[07:32] <ubuntuEdgy> can any one help me with this ? Forbiden You don't have permission to access /mythweb/data/music/
[07:32] <Arlain> 2nd command now says unreconized command "up"
[07:32] <waldo> ArtVandalae: I updated to the latest grub via apt-get and still having the same problem
[07:32] <Arlain> unrecognized wireless request
[07:32] <Arlain> rather
[07:32] <SubOne> if i run a shell script like "../../script" is there a way for the script to know the relative path from where the script is located to where the script was run (pwd)?
[07:32] <ArtVandalae> waldo, how did you upgrade the grub when you can't boot into the system?
[07:32] <Falstius> Arlain: the second command is ifconfig not iwconfig
[07:32] <EvilDennisR> SubOne: Yeah
[07:32] <neozen> waldo: wow.... you made grub go boom
[07:32] <EvilDennisR> SubOne: hmm... I gotta find out what it is
[07:32] <scottam> subone: usually the first argument is said path
[07:33] <th> however, it seems that paravirtualization support is the reason. changing gpl symbol from linux-2.6.20/arch/i386/kernel/paravirt.c makes nvidia drivers compile again
[07:33] <waldo> ArtVandalae: I booted into the live cd then chose the "load ubuntu off the hd" option... so it's sorta bypassing the grub on the hD
[07:33] <neozen> waldo: start dancing mon.... I've never heard of that happening
[07:33] <Arlain> and the 3rd is a ping?
[07:33] <ArtVandalae> waldo, oh. Sorry no idea
[07:33] <waldo> neozen: yeah it's a toshiba laptop...  i didn't hose it because it was right off the beta cd..
[07:33] <EvilDennisR> SubOne: You want to know the path that the script is in, not the pwd
[07:33] <waldo> ArtVandalae: hmmm weird huh
[07:33] <Arlain> looks like it pinged something.
[07:33] <Falstius> Arlain: the 3rd requests an IP address from your router
[07:33] <icwt> For some reason, my wireless card doesnt exist
[07:33] <neozen> waldo: keyword...... BETA
[07:33] <icwt> I know the driver is loaded
[07:33] <neozen> waldo: BETA!
[07:33] <waldo> neozen: yeah.. but I apt-getted to the current one...
[07:33] <Arlain> ok.. it's still rpocessing the 3rd command
[07:34] <Falstius> Arlain: it won't work (I think) without ifconfig eth1 up first though.
[07:34] <neozen> waldo: BETA=shit that is not guarenteed to work... at all
[07:34] <waldo> neozen: guess so
[07:34] <SubOne> EvilDennisR: actually i want to extract a relative path from the scripts dir to the pwd
[07:34] <icwt> anybody have any idea's why my wireless card has dissapered?
[07:34] <neozen> waldo: they have 3 days
[07:34] <scottam> subone: $0
[07:34] <th> it doesn't install though even it compiles...
[07:34] <Arlain> getting a print out of soem pings and some ports
[07:34] <waldo> neozen: I guess so
[07:34] <ArtVandalae> neozen, haha
[07:34] <th> anyone here with Nvidia card by the way?
[07:34] <neozen> waldo: I think they're going to need every minut
[07:34] <neozen> e
[07:34] <Arlain> err, some intervals.. pings i assume
[07:35] <waldo> neozen: hmm... weird..  grub is so elemental too
[07:35] <neozen> waldo: well... looks like its broken for you
[07:35] <icwt> anybody?
[07:35] <waldo> neozen: yup
[07:35] <Arlain> how can it send a request to a router its not connected to?
[07:35] <SubOne> oops didnt mean to leave
[07:35] <EvilDennisR> SubOne: So let me get this straight.. So if your script is in /home/foo/bar/script and you're in /porn/Movies, you want script `script` to tell you its in /home/foo/bar/ - This what you want ?
[07:35] <Arlain> no dhcpoffers receivered
[07:35] <Falstius> Arlain: it can't, but it can try :)
[07:35] <Arlain> is what it finally printed
[07:35] <neozen> icwt: yeah... I've got an idea
[07:35] <neozen> icwt
[07:35] <icwt> yes?
[07:36] <neozen> icwt: stick your /etc/network/interfaces in a pastebin and give us the url
[07:36] <icwt> okey, one second
[07:36] <Falstius> Arlain: so you have done ifconfig up right?  iwconfig should now show a connection.  If it doesn't ... I dunno, you might need to go back to the install and read from step 1.  Bed time for me, I have a final tomorrow.
[07:36] <foug> is anyone using foobar under Wine?
[07:36] <neozen> YAY for users who aren't confused by the pastebin!!!!
[07:37] <Arlain> it shows an ssid, and what not, but 0 connectivity.
[07:37] <scottam> subon: $0 will look identical to your script call, so if you typed ../../home/foo/bar/script you'll get ../../home/foo/bar/script and then you can get rid of everything after the last / using matching or other regex fun
[07:37] <ArtVandalae> Arlain, does it use encryption like WPA?
[07:37] <thespore> arlain, what wireless card are you using?
[07:37] <neozen> I've been doing too much fresh to linux help lately
[07:37] <icwt> awww, pastebin is b0rked
[07:37] <neozen> is it?
[07:38] <SubOne> EvilDennisR: no, lets say my script is in /home/foo/bar and i run it from /home/foo/bar/porn/Movies like `../../script` I want the script to be able to prepend "porn/Movies/" before each filename in /home/foo/bar/porn/Movies so that i can output them to a file. I am creating a script to output links to all images in a directory to an html file.
[07:38] <neozen> icwt: seemed like they changed something
[07:38] <icwt> yups
[07:38] <icwt> neozen: http://rafb.net/p/nYhURm87.html
[07:38] <ardchoille> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/  works fine here
[07:39] <zcat[1] > Subhuman, 'pwd'
[07:39] <zcat[1] > err SubOne 'pwd'
[07:39] <EvilDennisR> SubOne: Ok.. Hold on, let me write you something
[07:39] <neozen> icwt... I think I see your problem
[07:39] <SubOne> zcat[1] : you are not helping
[07:39] <icwt> yay
[07:39] <wj32> SubOne: $mystr="porn/Movies/"$myotherstr
[07:39] <neozen> icwt: see how everything is commented out
[07:39] <Falstius> Arlain: you might try "iwlist eth1 ap"
[07:39] <neozen> icwt: that's bad
[07:40] <neozen> icwt: you don't want that
[07:40] <icwt> yea, some how to told me to that and i blindly followed
[07:40] <neozen> icwt: makes cards disappear
[07:40] <SubOne> wj32: it must be generated i cant just type it into the script, the dir changes each time i run the script
[07:40] <thespore> think i figured out the issue.   if i try to ping anything on my subnet (192.168.1.x) the ping replies all come from 192.168.1.111 no matter what i try to ping... wtf?
[07:40] <scottam> subone: pwd will print the working directory from which the script is called, $0 will print a path from there to the script, between the two you can get the difference and prepend that
[07:40] <neozen> icwt: uncomment those things
[07:40] <thespore> i should clarify.. they are destination unreachable but it says .1.111 even if i try to ping .1.100
[07:40] <wj32> SubONe: wait... so how do you call the script?
[07:40] <wj32> SubOne:
[07:41] <SubOne> scottam: i got that much ty, how do i do that i dont know how to work with strings
[07:41] <wj32> SubOne: what arguments?
[07:41] <SubOne> no arguments
[07:41] <Arlain> I am using a intel pro 2200
[07:41] <Arlain> wireless
[07:41] <icwt> neozen uncommented
[07:42] <Arlain> falstius, that last command says it doesn't have a list
[07:42] <zcat[1] > SubOne, sounds like you want `pwd | sed -es"/$HOME//"g` ??
[07:42] <wj32> SubOne: oh i get it
[07:42] <scottam> subone: i don't know off the top of my head, sorry
[07:42] <neozen> icwt: now reboot the boxen
[07:42] <icwt> =(
[07:42] <Arlain> why is this so ridiculously hard?
[07:42] <icwt> okey brb
[07:42] <neozen> icwt: you shouldn't have to do that really
[07:43] <SubOne> what is `sed`?
[07:43] <Arlain> i'm going to redo this all tomorrow.
[07:43] <wj32> SubOne: does it have to be a relative path?
[07:43] <redwyrm> Subhuman, Stream EDitor
[07:43] <icwt> neozen : dbus restart?
[07:43] <redwyrm> SubOne*
[07:43] <neozen> icwt: but I can't remember which thing you actually have to restart
[07:43] <SubOne> wj32 yes its for an html page
[07:43] <neozen> icwt: and networking too
[07:43] <wj32> SubOne: you can just put links like: /home/foo/bar/Porn/Movies and then use sed to remove the /home/foo/bar/ by going `pwd`
[07:43] <icwt> reboot sounds easier
[07:43] <SubOne> redwyrm:  let me take a look at that...
[07:43] <icwt> i sahll brb
[07:43] <icwt> *shall
[07:43] <neozen> icwt: exactly
[07:43] <neozen> icwt: kk... see ye soon
[07:43] <zcat[1] > SubOne, what I said.. if your home is /home/subone and you're in the directory /home/subone/porn/movies, the result will be just "porn/movies'
[07:44] <SubOne> zcat[1] : programmatically
[07:44] <Arlain> falstius, thanks, but i'm going to head out
[07:44] <Arlain> this is extremely irritating.
[07:44] <SubOne> trying sed
[07:44] <Arlain> been at this for 6 hours now.
[07:44] <Jump86> can i edit /etc/fstab to automount a smb share? if so, what parameters do i use?
[07:44] <zcat[1] > yes.. pwd gives the full path to the current directory, sed -es"/$HOME//" strips your home directory off the path
[07:45] <EvilDennisR> zcat[1] : Yeah, but SubOne isn't nessicarily working from /home/
[07:45] <Flannel> !samba | Jump86
[07:45] <zcat[1] > EvilDennisR, where IS he working from? what's he want the path relative to?
[07:45] <Jump86> !samba
[07:45] <ubotu> Jump86: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:45] <EvilDennisR> zcat[1] : ..not sure
[07:46] <clearzen> Where are the rsync logs kept?
[07:46] <icwt> neozen: well the card exists now
[07:46] <foug> is there a command to get out of the currect folder i'm in in the terminal?
[07:46] <SubOne> what i need to do is count how many '../' there are in the $0 and then only use that many dirs on the end of pwd
[07:47] <icwt> but gnome-network-manager errors out with SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device
[07:47] <icwt> when clicked on
[07:47] <jcath> hello,anyone successfully install the conxant's hsf hda bus modem driver on ubuntu 6.10?
[07:47] <veen> join #help
[07:47] <theater> im really new with linux, and i was trying to install ati drivers... (i used this site: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305665 ), it said to ask for help here if direct rendering is still not enabled. anyone here willing to help?
[07:47] <icwt> neozen: if i put my mouse over it
[07:47] <jcath> I compiled the source from linuxant.com, everytime I try load the driver module, the driver crash
[07:47] <icwt> it shows eth1
[07:47] <azathoth> hello
[07:47] <neozen> icwt: well... your card isn't gone any more
[07:48] <SubOne> so then if i have '/1/2/3/4' for pwd and '../../script' for $0 then i need to count that there are 2 '../' in $0 and only use the last 2 dirs in pwd which would be '3/4/' but i dont know how that would be done
[07:48] <neozen> I'd like to call it a success
[07:48] <neozen> but its not
[07:48] <icwt> neozen : yea =/
[07:48] <SubOne> are there any uri functions?
[07:48] <neozen> icwt: what chipset is your card?
[07:48] <h3x0r_> is it possible to program in GNU with OpenGL ?
[07:48] <icwt> neozen ipw3945
[07:49] <neozen> icwt: LOL same as mine
[07:49] <Teekrul> any chance anyone can help me be able to play a DVD in movie totem or recommend another program that may work?
[07:49] <icwt> neozen : wewt :)
[07:49] <user____> how do i see what video drivers i have installed
[07:49] <azathoth> could someone explain how to find folders by name using search?
[07:49] <SubOne> EvilDennisR: so then if i have '/1/2/3/4' for pwd and '../../script' for $0 then i need to count that there are 2 '../' in $0 and only use the last 2 dirs in pwd which would be '3/4/' but i dont know how that would be done
[07:49] <neozen> icwt: mine disappeared from time to time too
[07:49] <veen> can anyone help me convert avi video to wmv video? i have been having trouble using ffmpeg
[07:49] <icwt> neozen they have skills =/
[07:49] <neozen> icwt: remove the lines from /etc/networking/interfaces regarding eth2
[07:50] <neozen> save the file
[07:50] <icwt> saved
[07:50] <EvilDennisR> SubOne: Ok, let me figure that out.. I can do it in perl in two seconds.. I haven't done bash in a while, and I've had a few captain and coke zeros ;)
[07:50] <neozen> then try using network-manager-gnome some more
[07:50] <veen> anyone have suggestions on how to convert video to WMV?
[07:50] <veen> I cant find any linux software
[07:50] <icwt> neozen do i need to restart again?
[07:51] <neozen> icwt: lets try not restarting
[07:51] <user____> how do i see what video drivers i have installed?
[07:51] <EvilDennisR> veen: Why would you want to convert it to wmv ?
[07:51] <SubOne> EvilDennisR: thanks for the help, i have the loop setup already all i need is the part to extract the relative directory
[07:51] <icwt> neozen : network manager shows : network connection : eth1 when hoverd over
[07:52] <neozen> icwt: click and pray
[07:52] <veen> EvilDennisR: so i can view it on my xbox360
[07:52] <user____> i do sudo modprobe -r fglrx then i get .. FATAL: Module fglrx is in use.
[07:52] <icwt> neozen again no such device
[07:52] <EvilDennisR> SubOne: so how come you can't use $(pwd) for the output? ie. $(pwd)/someoutputfile
[07:52] <neozen> icwt: ok... just a set
[07:52] <EvilDennisR> veen: Touche`
[07:52] <neozen> *sec
[07:52] <icwt> okey
[07:52] <james296> can anyone here help me with a WoW problem?
[07:53] <SubOne> because its not a relative directory and the base directory of these may change
[07:53] <EvilDennisR> !wine > james296
[07:53] <neozen> icwt: issue the following command in a terminal:
[07:53] <veen> Actually I'm looking for any way to stream video from ubuntu to my xbox360
[07:53] <EvilDennisR> I don't even know if that works =)
[07:53] <neozen> icwt: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:53] <neozen> icwt: might get booted off the net
[07:53] <EvilDennisR> !wine > EvilDennisR
[07:53] <james296> it does
[07:53] <EvilDennisR> oh cool, it did work
[07:53] <Teekrul> so no suggestions on playing dvds?
[07:54] <SubOne> EvilDennisR: html should always use relative paths, this is most definitely not always going to be the path of the images
[07:54] <archigos> Heyas - I'm running feisty and my sound has stopped working - any idea where I should start to look to figure out what the problem is?
[07:54] <Flannel> !dvd | Teekrul
[07:54] <ubotu> Teekrul: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:54] <icwt> neozen : done, network manager same error
[07:54] <EvilDennisR> SubOne: Oh right on.. I see where you're going.. You can't exactly have `<a href="/home/foo/bar/porn/Movies"> ... `
[07:54] <SubOne> EvilDennisR: but the will always stay in the same structure from the dir that the script resides in, hence the need for a relative path from that dir
[07:54] <SubOne> EvilDennisR: exactly
[07:54] <yellat> having some issues with azureus, trying to some nullpointer error
[07:55] <th> yellat: at startup?
[07:55] <yellat> ya
[07:55] <sword_> how can I check free space on my hard disk?
[07:55] <veen> is anyone using a their zune with ubuntu?
[07:55] <yellat> dies there
[07:55] <th> yellat: remove .azureus/logs folder :)
[07:55] <hume> sword_, df -h
[07:55] <th> yellat: believe or not, then it starts :P
[07:55] <yellat> oh, duh
[07:56] <yellat> that was retarded of me
[07:56] <sword_> is there a GUI way to do it?
[07:56] <remiss> could someone have a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15917/ ?
[07:56] <th> well, it's retarded of java that it segfaults, and not easy to trace to some random logs folder...
[07:56] <derek_> How to change screen resolution?
[07:56] <th> i fought with that myself for a loong time
[07:56] <hume> sword_, in your file manager, right click and choose properties for instance
[07:56] <neozen> icwt: sudo aptitude reinstall network-manager
[07:56] <hume> then there are programs like kdirstat (KDE)
[07:57] <derek_> why am I not getting refresh rate more than 60Hz?
[07:57] <neozen> icwt: is your card showing up in ifconfig and/or iwconfig?
[07:57] <th> derek_: because lcd's are "today's thing" ;)
[07:57] <icwt> neozen:  nope
[07:57] <ferronica> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_IN
[07:58] <neozen> icwt: greaaaat
[07:58] <th> derek_: system > settings > screen resolution or such
[07:58] <icwt> im gonna take that as sarcastic
[07:58] <neozen> icwt: to be honest... the last time my card started flaking out like that... I reinstalled
[07:58] <neozen> icwt: I wouldn't recommend that though
[07:58] <neozen> icwt: shouldn't have to do that
[07:58] <ferronica> why is it ignoring it??
[07:59] <derek_> th, yes, I found that. But do you mean LCDs don't support more than 60Hz refresh rate?
[07:59] <ferronica> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_IN
[07:59] <th> derek_: yes
[07:59] <derek_> hm
[07:59] <derek_> k
[07:59] <derek_> th, do you know about this: On running desktop-effects, I get "The Composite extension is not available" , and in the console it says: nvidia hardware not available. (I have ATI graphics hardware, not nvidia)
[07:59] <icwt> eek
[08:00] <th> derek_: well, i have nvidia but... desktop effects should add composite to xorg.conf automatically but apparently it doens't...
[08:00] <icwt> great , in the network settings gui
[08:00] <icwt> it doesnt exist
[08:01] <icwt> im half tempted to reinstall but i downloaded the wrong cd 6.06 not 6.10
[08:01] <SubOne> EvilDennisR: you know what, nvm, this is too much trouble, im just going to call the script with the relative path to the dir i want done
[08:01] <icwt> so i updated via ubuntu
[08:01] <icwt> to 6.10
[08:02] <EvilDennisR> SubOne: eh, its not too much trouble.. I just haven't writen anything in bash in a while, nor used sed.. And I've had some drinks =)
[08:02] <yellat> th - evidently it isn't the logs folder, still dies at startup
[08:02] <th> yellat: hmh... interesting... feisty?
[08:03] <yellat> not edgy
[08:03] <neozen> icwt: OHHH
[08:03] <th> hm.. i have feisty and removing logs fixed it
[08:03] <yellat> using the sunjre also
[08:03] <neozen> icwt: lol... I run dapper
[08:03] <DVS01> how much space would / typically need, assuming i have separate partitions for /var, /usr and /home?
[08:03] <icwt> hehe
[08:03] <yellat> been trying to squish pointer error and that was suggested somewhere
[08:03] <neozen> icwt: xubuntu dapper actually
[08:03] <ferronica> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_IN
[08:04] <icwt> i got my nvidia drivers working
[08:04] <icwt> and aiglx + beryl
[08:04] <ferronica> neozen: Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_IN
[08:04] <SubOne> EvilDennisR: its just that now that i think of it i fail to see the difference between 1) cd'ing into the dir and calling `../../script` and having to write a bunch of string manip crap and 2) calling `script rel/path/i/want/done/`
[08:04] <DVS01> icwt: werd.. that's what im doing tonite =D
[08:04] <icwt> i really dont want to reinstall lol
[08:04] <ferronica> neozen: why is i t ignoring it
[08:04] <icwt> DVS01: it wasnt hard
[08:04] <icwt> DVS01: hell it was easy even
[08:04] <DVS01> cool
[08:05] <neozen> ferronica: ......eh?
[08:05] <neozen> ferronica: I dunno
[08:05] <ferronica> neozen: okay
[08:05] <icwt> only hitch was how to get to a damn  terminal without x
[08:05] <EvilDennisR> SubOne: Hey man, whatever you wanna do =)
[08:05] <SubOne> ty for the help though
[08:05] <Steil> Does evolution support writing to web calendars?
[08:06] <Stoffer> I'm considering a sort of complicated installation of Ubuntu (at least complicated to me), can someone help me out?  It's a partitioning issue...
[08:06] <andre__> debian people gone to bed i guest you guys dont sleep
[08:06] <icwt> meh
[08:06] <andre__> cool
[08:06] <icwt> its only 20 minutes to redownload
[08:07] <icwt> i might aswell re-install =/
[08:07] <derek_> th, ATI doesn't support composite, that is why it is disabled for me
[08:07] <DVS01> whats the convention for the tmp dir in ubuntu? is /tmp used or /var/tmp? and would symlinking between the 2 be advisable? main reason i'm asking is i'm deciding whether i should make a /tmp partition or just rely on /var
[08:08] <Stoffer> Basically I installed xp on a new hard drive today, but I left a 20GB partition for linux, and a 194GB partition for data (that isn't formatted yet).  I tried to go ahead and install ubuntu on the 20GB, but manually doing the partitioning tables didn't work.  How should it be?
[08:08] <pwuertz_> hi, is it safe to run xterm as root when providing a specific command to be executed (like a mount command prompting for a password)... are there any secret keystrokes allowing the user to spawn a new root shell?
[08:08] <vircobum> greetings
[08:10] <vircobum> looks like you guys know your stuff I might learn something
[08:10] <archigos> Heyas - I'm running feisty and my sound has stopped working - any idea where I should start to look to figure out what the problem is?
[08:10] <highlander0> hey people, do you all have anyone site that post screenshot from ubuntu ?
[08:10] <vircobum> But need to hit the sack catcha later
[08:10] <vircobum> quit
[08:10] <foug> i can't figure it out, when i'm idle my screen always goes black. I've looked under power options and screen savers but can't figure it out. My screen saver never even shows
[08:11] <dhgwill> archigos: earlier today, i had my feisty problem redirected to #ubuntu+1 (it's where the feisty problem solvers hang out)
[08:11] <neozen> icwt: sorry mon
[08:11] <archigos> thanks dhgwill
[08:11] <icwt> neozen : its fine
[08:11] <jnsears> Is there any way to create or get a LiveCD that will allow ssh connections upon boot (so I can work with the system without a display)?
[08:12] <highlander0> hey people, do you all have anyone site that posts screenshots from users from this channel ?
[08:12] <variant> jnsears: you might want to look at linux-live.org
[08:12] <variant> jnsears: allows you to make a live cd of any distrobution.. after you installed it
[08:13] <variant> foug: probably a monitor power saving setting?
[08:13] <user____> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:13] <user____>  how do i fix this?
[08:13] <jnsears> hmm
[08:13] <jnsears> the problem is I can't get to my install
[08:13] <jnsears> because i have no display
[08:13] <jnsears> and the ssh quit working
[08:13] <variant> user____: install drivers to provide 3d accelleration
[08:13] <DVS01> i want several root directories to be under one partition. should i just make a large / partition, or have a mount in /mnt and then mount --rbind the subdirs one by one into / subdirs?
[08:14] <teb> can anyone help me mount my fat32 partition so that my user account can read/write?
[08:14] <user____> variant  ... i have some drivers installed.. i should uninstall them..
[08:14] <user____> how do i revert to first ubuntu setup..
[08:15] <variant> teb: i beleive you havet o put something like umask=775 in fstab.. not sure of the exact syntax though
[08:15] <teb> i'm using /dev/hda5     /home/tebriel/shared      vfat      defaults  1 2
[08:15] <variant> user____: reinstall
[08:15] <foug> variant: know how to access those?
[08:15] <user____> :)
[08:15] <user____> that would suck
[08:15] <user____> any other way?
[08:15] <neozen> byebye all
[08:15] <variant> foug: on the monitor controls.. depends on monitor i guess. Not sure thats the problem at all though!
[08:16] <neozen> icwt: ask around a bit more in here
[08:16] <icwt> heh
[08:16] <neozen> icwt: before you install
[08:16] <icwt> okey
[08:16] <Skiguy> anyone have any idea why "sudo gedit /etc/pam.d/gdm" wouldn't even launch gedit?
[08:16] <neozen> icwt: I'm more of a mid-level support guy
[08:16] <icwt> hehe
[08:16] <NickGarvey> Skiguy: try gksudo
[08:16] <icwt> anybody have any idea's
[08:16] <icwt> why my wireless card has disapeered
[08:16] <neozen> icwt: I've been using linux every day for about 6 months
[08:16] <Skiguy> aright
[08:16] <Skiguy> what's that do?
[08:16] <wj32> user____: did you change xorg.conf?
[08:16] <user____> yes
[08:16] <user____> several times
[08:16] <neozen> icwt: but that does NOT make me a genius
[08:16] <user____> i guess
[08:16] <wj32> user____: change it back
[08:16] <wj32> user____: don't tell me you havent made backups
[08:16] <icwt> neozen more then me :P
[08:17] <NickGarvey> Skiguy: man gksudo, (I'm doing an essay.. don't want to get too distracted with explanations :))
[08:17] <neozen> icwt: and I could be wrong
[08:17] <user____> i have backup
[08:17] <wj32> user____: yes then go restore
[08:17] <variant> user____: if /home/ is on a seperate partition then you can reinstall the os without over writing your files
[08:17] <neozen> icwt: uncommenting the lines in the interfaces file brought my card back from the dead earlier today
[08:17] <variant> or settings
[08:17] <user____> i have several.. i have original i have fglrx ..
[08:17] <neozen> icwt: figured I'd speak up and perhaps it'd do the same for you
[08:17] <user____> home is on same partition with /
[08:18] <Stoffer> if I want to have a main parition shared between windows and ubuntu, I should make it FAT32 right?
[08:18] <icwt> yea, seems like my card decided to hide a bit further
[08:18] <NickGarvey> Stoffer: yes, but you can't have permissions on it
[08:18] <NickGarvey> Stoffer: there are ext3 drivers for windows though
[08:18] <icwt> =/
[08:18] <Stoffer> NickGarvey: advantages of ext3?
[08:18] <user____> i have an ATI radeon 9000 and i want to play wow that's all
[08:18] <zcat[1] > there's also reiserfs drivers for windows..
[08:19] <NickGarvey> Stoffer: its.. the default linux filesystem
[08:19] <user____> if i pastebin my confs anyone would help me?
[08:19] <NickGarvey> Stoffer: so.. you can have permissions and whatever
[08:19] <NickGarvey> user____: hehe I play wow on ubuntu
[08:19] <foug> variant: how do i access monitor controls?
[08:19] <icwt> =[
[08:19] <NickGarvey> !wow | user____
[08:19] <ubotu> user____: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[08:19] <davisc> Stoffer: And it's a journalling filesystem
[08:19] <Stoffer> oh dear, it's been a while since i last used linux...
[08:19] <NickGarvey> user____: followed that gu
[08:19] <DVS01> how much space would / typically need, assuming i have separate partitions for /var, /usr and /home?
[08:19] <archigos> Stoffer, it doesn't have the serious fragmentation issues of winblows filesystems, and its journaling
[08:19] <archigos> that should be enough.
[08:19] <NickGarvey> user____: guide*
[08:19] <icwt> Any of you genious's have any idea why my wireless card disapeered
[08:20] <enyc> lick icwt
[08:20] <enyc> w
[08:20] <icwt> hmm?
[08:20] <NickGarvey> icwt: sarcasm isn't the best way to get help :\
[08:20] <enyc> oops wrong place.. this is not telnet talker...! irc room!
[08:20] <Stoffer> ok, so use reiserfs and just find a windows driver to read and write to it?
[08:20] <icwt> i wasnt kidding when i said genious i really mean it
[08:20] <icwt> your all smarter then me guaranteed =)
[08:20] <archigos> use reiser only if you have no need for journaling
[08:20] <F-nkyMNK> Can someone lend me a hand? For some reason i cannot sudo?
[08:21] <user____> i don't need ubuntu games.. i want WOW .. the blizz one
[08:21] <archigos> F-nkyMNK, you're using your USER password, not the root password, right?
[08:21] <NickGarvey> user____: maybe.. if you clicked the link.. you would know what in the article..
[08:21] <user____> i managed to get it working.. but.. i get white square when enter a room ..
[08:21] <F-nkyMNK> archigos: thats right
[08:21] <user____> wich one?
[08:21] <archigos> what error are you getting?
[08:21] <NickGarvey> user____: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[08:21] <F-nkyMNK> I'm typing 'sudo <command>' and the command isnt executing
[08:21] <user____> didn't see that
[08:21] <LordLimeca1> if this kernel compile fails, who do i yell at?
[08:21] <NickGarvey> F-nkyMNK: what command?
[08:22] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: yourself
[08:22] <LordLimeca1> :(
[08:22] <Stoffer> so if I don't need journaling (and since I don't know what it is I suppose I don't), use ext3 and find a driver for that?
[08:22] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: binary kernels are there for a reason ;)
[08:22] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: hah..
[08:22] <NickGarvey> stoffer: ext3 has journallying
[08:22] <neozen> flattery might work
[08:22] <Stoffer> omg
[08:22] <neozen> patience works even better
[08:22] <F-nkyMNK> LordLimecal: 'apt-get install <app>'. I also tried opening 'date and time', but that didn't work either.
[08:22] <sonictwin> user: http://russellthedigitalninja.com/wordpress/?p=9
[08:22] <neozen> goodnight icwt
[08:22] <LordLimeca1> NickGarvey: current kernel sound dont work
[08:22] <icwt> night
[08:22] <icwt> im reinstalling
[08:22] <NickGarvey> Stoffer: ext3 is the way to go if you read the !ext3 factoid
[08:22] <icwt> =/
[08:22] <LordLimeca1> alsa person of importance tells me i need to make new kernel
[08:22] <NickGarvey> icwt: mm.. that might not do ti
[08:23] <corevette> F-nkyMNK, can you pastebin the output of your command for us?
[08:23] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: oh alright, well why would it not work?
[08:23] <LordLimeca1> stoffer: i may be wrong, but journalling is important o.0
[08:23] <Stoffer> NickGarvey: ext3, gotcha.  case closed
[08:23] <neozen> NickGarvey: oh it does
[08:23] <icwt> NickGarvey: i could see it when i first isntalled
[08:23] <icwt> and updated
[08:23] <neozen> NickGarvey: its a intel pro wireless 3945abg
[08:23] <icwt> then i did something stupid
[08:23] <F-nkyMNK> When i try opening a gui app that requires sudo, it reports that the 'underlying authentication subsystem (sudo) is not available
[08:23] <icwt> and it hid
[08:23] <LordLimeca1> NickGarvey: there was a recent update to kernel something or other, alsa broke.  Tried installing new alsa drivers, kernel said oops, i said uhoh, and now am installing new kernel
[08:23] <NickGarvey> icwt: how do you know it disappeared? what do you mean by that?
[08:23] <neozen> NickGarvey: support is right there in the kernel
[08:23] <variant> F-nkyMNK: sounds like you borked your system
[08:23] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: sounds god to me
[08:23] <LordLimeca1> thats this weekend in a nutshell, NickGarvey
[08:24] <F-nkyMNK> haha, yeah... I dunno why...
[08:24] <neozen> hold up icwt... there is hope
[08:24] <F-nkyMNK> Oh, actually..
[08:24] <icwt> NickGarvey: ifconfig ; iwconfig shows nothing
[08:24] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: do you know how to compile one?  I came from gentoo so I have compiled a few more than I like too admit...
[08:24] <enyc> Stoffer: hrrm ive not known reiserfs used under win32 but seems that at least 1 beta driver exists... err... just esu ext3 and  ext2fsd  ?
[08:24] <Stoffer> alright, well, I'll take care of this in the morning
[08:24] <Stoffer> thanks guys
[08:24] <neozen> NickGarvey: I'll leave him in your hands
[08:24] <sonictwin> user____: i am running WoW on an ATI Radeon 9200
[08:24] <icwt> NickGarvey: and it network manager shows nothing
[08:24] <neozen> NickGarvey: I need to get sleep
[08:24] <NickGarvey> neozen: night
[08:24] <corevette> F-nkmyMNK have you tried restarting system
[08:24] <NickGarvey> icwt: open a terminal and do sudo ifconfig
[08:24] <NickGarvey> icwt: pastebin please
[08:24] <sonictwin> didnt have to do anything sepcial just install wine and edit the WTF.config
[08:25] <icwt> NickGarvey: okey
[08:25] <LordLimeca1> NickGarvey: just learned how, compiled one, and ping worked, but lynx, irssi, and firefox didnt (network wise)
[08:25] <F-nkyMNK> I switched my machine over to NTP, and then i was getting timestamp issues with sudo, so i followed the forum instructions on how to reset your time stamps using 'sudo -k'
[08:25] <LordLimeca1> so im recompiling
[08:25] <NickGarvey> user____: you are doing "wine WoW.exe --opengl" right?
[08:25] <F-nkyMNK> corevette: I've reset my machine
[08:25] <LordLimeca1> whats the wow issue?
[08:25] <LordLimeca1> with sound?
[08:25] <icwt> NickGarvey: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15919/
[08:26] <NickGarvey> this essay is never going to get done..
[08:26] <variant> F-nkyMNK: that alone should not disable sudo
[08:26] <user____> NickGarvey
[08:26] <NickGarvey> icwt: how about.. sudo iwconfig
[08:26] <user____> no
[08:26] <NickGarvey> user____
[08:26] <user____> wine wow.exe
[08:26] <variant> F-nkyMNK: if you run sudo what does it say exactly?
[08:26] <F-nkyMNK> corevette: If i run 'sudo bash' to try and get a root prompt, i put my password in, and then it goes back to my normal user prompt
[08:26] <LordLimeca1> if you type "finish essay" into feisty terminal, it may have a suggestion for a program that can do it for you :D
[08:26] <NickGarvey> user____: do it with the --opengl and tell me what happens
[08:26] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: no luck :(
[08:26] <variant> F-nkyMNK: try sudo login root
[08:27] <LordLimeca1> finished_essay
[08:27] <LordLimeca1> "command not found, would you like to install finished_essay?"
[08:27] <icwt> NickGarvey: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15920/
[08:27] <user____> first off i would like to say i don't have direct rendering..
[08:27] <F-nkyMNK> variant: Straight back to the $ prompt
[08:27] <user____> i should revert to fglrx
[08:27] <corevette> F-nkyMNK: can you post screenshot?
[08:27] <NickGarvey> user____: wow um, that is a problem right there
[08:27] <variant> F-nkyMNK: yeah, nm that shouldnt work
[08:27] <variant> F-nkyMNK: and sudo -i
[08:27] <variant> F-nkyMNK: ?
[08:27] <user____> i have like 7 xorg.conf files...
[08:28] <F-nkyMNK> variant: same..
[08:28] <puff> Evening, helping a friend, linux newbie, set up his laptop, Ubuntu Edgy.  (A different friend talked him into it, now I'm left holding the bag :-).  He wants to play media files, of course.  So I downloaded the easybuntu package, installed it.  Does installing easybuntu actually install all of the media drivers, or do I need to do something else?\
[08:28] <NickGarvey> icwt: yikes, its gone
[08:28] <albertolempira> hey guys my xine's controls looks pretty bad (creepy) someone know why is that for?
[08:28] <icwt> NickGarvey: yup =/
[08:28] <variant> F-nkyMNK: hmm, whatever the issue is you will have to fix it with a live cd as you can't become root otherwise
[08:28] <zcat[1] > puff, you need to run it..
[08:29] <NickGarvey> puff: honestly.. you could just wait until.. feisty.. it does all that stuff for you.. it should be out 19th unless something else is destroyed
[08:29] <variant> puff: easyubuntu is unsupported
[08:29] <F-nkyMNK> variant: yeah.. And my mate has my only 6.10 livecd
[08:29] <NickGarvey> icwt: it is compiled into your kernel right?
[08:29] <F-nkyMNK> haha
[08:29] <NickGarvey> !easyubuntu | puff
[08:29] <ubotu> puff: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:29] <icwt> NickGarvey yes
[08:29] <nutterpc> I must be one of the lucky ones
[08:29] <nutterpc> hehehe
[08:29] <NickGarvey> icwt: mm... any chance.. you can find it in "dmesg"?
[08:29] <variant> puff: there are better ways to install media codecs.. basically if you can go to the effort of installing easyubuntu then installing the other codecs instead is no harder
[08:29] <NickGarvey> icwt: or lspci actually
[08:29] <zcat[1] > !codecs | puff
[08:29] <ubotu> puff: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:30] <LordLimeca1> why do people dislike automatix?  isnt it just apt-gets?
[08:30] <F-nkyMNK> corevette: http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotny9.png
[08:30] <variant> LordLimeca1: it automates the installation of Non Free software
[08:30] <zcat[1] > LordLimeca1, no, it messes with a few things too
[08:30] <puff> Oookay.
[08:30] <variant> LordLimeca1: proprietry software.. who wants that???
[08:30] <LordLimeca1> variant: technically, so does feisty
[08:30] <LordLimeca1> :)
[08:30] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: it will force some things to happen..
[08:30] <variant> LordLimeca1: yep
[08:30] <puff> So is this basically just the same old do-30-apt-gets-in-a-row dance?
[08:30] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: I don't know full details though
[08:30] <variant> LordLimeca1: I have issues with both
[08:31] <LordLimeca1> it just seems like it gets a really bad rap for issues that may or may not be current
[08:31] <zcat[1] > puff, What I usually do is just cut and paste the entire string of apt-get's into a terminal..
[08:31] <icwt> NickGarvey: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15921/
[08:31] <LordLimeca1> it has a pretty good log, and lets you see/undo sources.list changes
[08:31] <puff> zcat[1] :  Yah, I did that for my laptop, there were a few catch-22s.
[08:31] <variant> LordLimeca1: and I do use proprietry software (flash) but I at least want to know which I am using is proprietry and be able to replace it when possible.. if everyone used automatix a lot of people would be using increasing amounts of proprietry software
[08:31] <puff> So has any of this appreciably changed since dapper?  'cause I coudl just use my notes from when I did it.
[08:32] <LordLimeca1> variant: ill give you that :)
[08:32] <zcat[1] > For codecs it works. For things like flash and java it stops to prompt and pasting messes that up.
[08:32] <LordLimeca1> although i THINK itll notify you now
[08:32] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonCustomizations#head-f87ab027cad4d5a0ce0787c76b15f2188d41f9e7
[08:32] <F-nkyMNK> Are there any particular log files i can flick thru to get an idea as to what happened?
[08:32] <NickGarvey> icwt: so.. its there..
[08:32] <NickGarvey> icwt: is it a module? do you need to modprobe the module?
[08:32] <variant> F-nkyMNK: read the sudo man page for a start.. should give you a few clues. it also has a relevent files section at the bottom
[08:33] <LordLimeca1> NickGarvey: that answers my question quite nicely :)
[08:33] <icwt> NickGarvey: that i wouldnt know
[08:33] <NickGarvey> icwt: mm.. have you rebooted?
[08:34] <icwt> NickGarvey: yes
[08:34] <F-nkyMNK> ta, brb
[08:34] <NickGarvey> icwt: is there a button for it maybe? like on a laptop?
[08:34] <icwt> NickGarvey - yes but its on
[08:34] <NickGarvey> icwt: hm.. that means.. that it knows it is there..
[08:34] <NickGarvey> icwt: does the live cd work?
[08:35] <icwt> didnt really try
[08:35] <sorcerer22> anyone .. know any good torrent clients other than azureus ?
[08:35] <zcat[1] > btw anyone else using nvidia and bt878 cards together? I have issues on two different machines. This one Xorg goes to 100% CPU quite often with the nvidia drivers but is OK with nv or without the bt878 card. The other machine crashes as soon as I start anything that accesses the tuner card. I haven't tried it with nv drivers, I'm assuming it would be ok too.
[08:35] <NickGarvey> icwt: well honestly, its late and I'm running out of ideas.. so.. if you could try that.. (don't give up yet, but I should start doing this essay.., I'll still be here)
[08:36] <foug> any beryl users around/
[08:36] <icwt> NickGarvey: im going to try and reinstall
[08:36] <icwt> i just got the 6.10 cd
[08:36] <zcat[1] > foug, yeah
[08:36] <NickGarvey> foug: #ubuntu-effects
[08:36] <foug> zcat[1] : how do i change my alt-tabbing to go back to normal?
[08:36] <foug> NickGarvey: rgr
[08:36] <zcat[1] > foug: how did you change it to not be normal?
[08:37] <foug> zcat[1] : just, installed beryl as far as i know
[08:37] <LordLimeca1> NickGarvey: just got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15927/  do i need to recompile -_-
[08:37] <NickGarvey> foug: oh.. well.. just go to... beryl-manager.. theres an option in there I'm sure..
[08:37] <zcat[1] > ahhhh ok. Somewhere in the settings you can turn the alt-tab effect off. No idea where
[08:37] <foug> NickGarvey: looking around right now but can't really find anything
[08:37] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: what sources do you have?
[08:38] <zcat[1] > personally I think it's cool
[08:38] <NickGarvey> foug: mm.. I'd start beryl manager but I really really don't want my desktop to crash right now
[08:38] <LordLimeca1> used git clone rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-feisty.git
[08:38] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: there is a linux-sources package I believe..
[08:39] <NickGarvey> ah ben collins, love that guy
[08:39] <foug> NickGarvey: i found where i should be able to change it, but i don't see it exactly lol
[08:39] <LordLimeca1> NickGarvey: i already have the 2.6.20.7 vanilla kernel, compiled it, ran into issues (can ping google.com, but cant browse it)
[08:39] <zcat[1] > I can't get to beryl at the moment either. This machine's using the nv drivers (as mentioned) and the other machine my 10yo is playing secondlife on.
[08:40] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: try the chocolate one? (ahaha.. its late forgive my humor)
[08:40] <LordLimeca1> -_-
[08:40] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: did you try the one in the repos though?  (I have never compiled a kernel under ubuntu to be honest)
[08:40] <LordLimeca1> i think thats the one i got
[08:40] <LordLimeca1> if not, the one in repos is the same as the image i have
[08:40] <rookie> Question, What is so good about ubuntu, that puts it on the top linux distro?
[08:41] <LordLimeca1> which is currently broken for alsa and booting slow as hell
[08:41] <LordLimeca1> because i done tampered with it -_-
[08:41] <NickGarvey> rookie: personally.. I'd say community..
[08:41] <rookie> NickGarvey, Okay. So nothing really fancy about the O.S?
[08:41] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: have you read the kernel compile guide?
[08:42] <flaccid> rookie: its not the top
[08:42] <LordLimeca1> many
[08:42] <NickGarvey> rookie: oh no its pretty fancy let me tell you
[08:42] <LordLimeca1> and had help from people
[08:42] <qwehnce> this is a rather stupid question, but if i remove the xubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop meta deb, will the system still update properly
[08:42] <LordLimeca1> ive got the compile part GENERALLY down
[08:42] <NickGarvey> rookie: feisty had me going wow
[08:42] <rookie> flaccid, It is on http://distrowatch.com/
[08:42] <zcat[1] > rookie, I like it because everything works, more than any other distro I tried.
[08:42] <LordLimeca1> and ive read 90% of the help entries in make menuconfig
[08:42] <flaccid> rookie: so?
[08:42] <LordLimeca1> and understand 80% of them
[08:42] <rookie> flaccid, Uhh, thats why I said it was the top, *sigh*
[08:42] <NickGarvey> qwehnce: no stupid questions, and yes I'm fairly certain it will.. it might mark all these other packages as candidates to be "autoremoved" if you run "sudo apt-get autoremove" though
[08:43] <flaccid> hehe
[08:43] <nutterpc> I'm happy with edgy atm.........been nice & stable, everything just *works*
[08:43] <zcat[1] > distrowatch is only a survey...
[08:43] <LordLimeca1> nutterpc: you mean except wireless :D
[08:43] <flaccid> don't believe everything you read
[08:43] <nutterpc> lordLimeca: even that
[08:43] <nutterpc> :)
[08:43] <LordLimeca1> o.0
[08:43] <LordLimeca1> yer lucky
[08:43] <qwehnce> NickGarvey, thanks, its not to do an autoremove, but to remove packages like OOo
[08:43] <LordLimeca1> then again, linksys usb adapters DO suck
[08:43] <NickGarvey> qwehnce: it is trying to do that?
[08:44] <NickGarvey> qwehnce: I mean honestly.. I would just.. keep them, unless you have a good reason to get rid of them..
[08:44] <NickGarvey> man I need to get to work on my essay!
[08:44] <qwehnce> NickGarvey, i am a fan of abiword and gnumeric, i have no need for OO
[08:44] <zcat[1] > nutterpc, you'll love feisty. things you didn't even think of trying works too..
[08:44] <NickGarvey> qwehnce: ah I see.. and you can't seem to get rid of open office?
[08:45] <NickGarvey> zcat[1] : feisty is _amazing_..
[08:45] <NickGarvey> zcat[1] : when my kernel isn't broken of course ;)
[08:45] <nutterpc> zcat[1] : here's why I'm happy wit edgy
[08:45] <nutterpc>  16:45:41 up 14 days, 12:34,  1 user,  load average: 0.59, 0.41, 0.38
[08:45] <nutterpc> :)
[08:46] <geekytrent> sup all
[08:46] <wj32> nothing'sup all
[08:47] <geekytrent> so when is feisty suppose to be fully released?
[08:47] <wj32> april 19th
[08:47] <NickGarvey> !feisty | geekytrent
[08:47] <ubotu> geekytrent: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:47] <geekytrent> ah ok
[08:47] <NickGarvey> geekytrent: oh it doesn't say the 19th
[08:47] <wj32> we should have a "sticky" or something if thats possible in irc
[08:47] <NickGarvey> geekytrent: but, the rc was pushed back, and the final may be also...
[08:47] <NickGarvey> wj32: we do, its called /title
[08:47] <geekytrent> yeah, i checked at title for it
[08:48] <wj32> "title :Unknown command"
[08:48] <geekytrent> heh
[08:48] <zcat[1] >  /topic perhaps?
[08:48] <wj32> zcat[1] : yep
[08:49] <NickGarvey> wj32: close enough :)
[08:50] <IGxMyzt> hey guys im back
[08:50] <NickGarvey> hooray
[08:50] <green> record my desktop is cool
[08:51] <IGxMyzt> i need help. i tried the alternate cd suggested, and after it installed fully and rebooted, it gave server x graphics error
[08:51] <IGxMyzt> and said no screen found
[08:51] <berent>  which is the best available package for building a php and mysql based website in open source
[08:51] <berent> !website
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about website - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <berent>  which is the best available package for building a php and mysql based website in open source
[08:51] <IGxMyzt> can someone help me?
[08:51] <NickGarvey> berent: easy with the spam...
[08:52] <NickGarvey> berent: and.. what do you mean by that..? you want to integrate php and mysql?
[08:52] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: mm.. so gdm doesn't go?
[08:52] <IGxMyzt> gdm?
[08:52] <berent> NickGarvey : No I want to build a website wherein i can use php as frontend  and mysql as backend
[08:53] <buu> berent: YOU'RE DOOMED
[08:53] <buu> BAHAHAHHA.
[08:53] <NickGarvey> buu: not.. constructive..
[08:53] <EvilDennisR> Que?
[08:53] <NickGarvey> !es EvilDennisR
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es evildennisr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <buu> NickGarvey: But oh so true.
[08:53] <NickGarvey> !es | EvilDennisR
[08:53] <ubotu> EvilDennisR: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:54] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: lol... I was just joking in regards to what buu said =)
[08:54] <NickGarvey> berent: perhaps.. you want..
[08:54] <NickGarvey> !lamp | berent
[08:54] <ubotu> berent: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:54] <KennethP_> berent: sounds like you need a CMS - look here: http://www.opensourcecms.com/
[08:54] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: oh, lo siento, no sabe era un chiste ;)
[08:54] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Nice though... Nice..
[08:54] <EvilDennisR> Que!?
[08:54] <EvilDennisR> I don't actually speak spanish, thats what makes it funny!
[08:55] <IGxMyzt> Dennis: What am I supposed to do?
[08:55] <NickGarvey> veo
[08:55] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: oh yes.. gdm is the gnome display manager
[08:55] <IGxMyzt> yeah i wiki'd it.
[08:55] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: sounds like a graphics card problem.. perhaps you can do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:55] <IGxMyzt> I'm confused, because I wasted two CD-Rs tonight.
[08:55] <EvilDennisR> IGxMyzt: No idea man...
[08:55] <IGxMyzt> nick: im on windows. ubuntu crashes on load
[08:56] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: ah, my casualties have hit 10+
[08:56] <EvilDennisR> Oh come on..
[08:56] <EvilDennisR> CDRs are like a penny a piece..
[08:56] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: oh, drop into a terminal if you can.. do you have another computer?
[08:56] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: $.10 thank you very much
[08:56] <EvilDennisR> I use them as coasters sometimes..
[08:56] <IGxMyzt> i don't have a driver's license.
[08:56] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: me either, got a permit though :)
[08:56] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: well I was going to use the analogy "a dime a dozen", but thats not acurate
[08:56] <shukhrat> hello
[08:57] <shukhrat> !Apache2
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <NickGarvey> shukhrat: greetings
[08:57] <EvilDennisR> IGxMyzt: So whats the deal.. What happens when you try and startx ?
[08:57] <IGxMyzt> nick: my other pc is on windows, and its not really mine, so i cant mess with it
[08:57] <NickGarvey> !apache | shukhrat
[08:57] <ubotu> shukhrat: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:57] <shukhrat> Thanks
[08:57] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: can you use irc?
[08:57] <IGxMyzt> when i load it up on the other hard drive
[08:57] <NickGarvey> shukhrat: in the future though, you can just "/msg ubotu apache"
[08:57] <IGxMyzt> as soon as it comes up
[08:57] <IGxMyzt> it says Ubuntu and does the yellow bar
[08:57] <EvilDennisR> Yup
[08:57] <EvilDennisR> thats normal..
[08:57] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: its hard to debug ubuntu problems when you aren't running ubuntu
[08:57] <EvilDennisR> what happens when gdm starts up ?
[08:58] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: does it stick? and not move?
[08:58] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: the yellow bar?
[08:58] <IGxMyzt> right after that some weird stuff comes up, some ASCII code in the background forming a square around this:
[08:58] <EvilDennisR> IGxMyzt: Upi
[08:58] <NickGarvey> oh nope
[08:58] <EvilDennisR> ack
[08:58] <EvilDennisR> damn it...
[08:58] <EvilDennisR> not running ubuntu ?
[08:58] <berent> NickGarvey : I want something more than XAMPP where I can select a block and php code is written for creating a block.
[08:58] <IGxMyzt> "Server X (your graphical interface) could not be started. Would you like to view the diagnostics?"
[08:58] <IGxMyzt> the yellow load bar
[08:59] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: could you view them maybe?
[08:59] <NickGarvey> berent: I.. um..
[08:59] <IGxMyzt> i could view them
[08:59] <IGxMyzt> the short one only said
[08:59] <IGxMyzt> mainly
[08:59] <IGxMyzt> no screen found
[08:59] <IGxMyzt> other one was like 20 pages long with stuff i didnt understand
[08:59] <NickGarvey> berent: I doubt.. anyone in here right now knows something like that.. maybe in #web or something..
[08:59] <EvilDennisR> IGxMyzt: What version of ubuntu you using ?
[08:59] <EvilDennisR> pastebin ?
[08:59] <IGxMyzt> 6.10
[08:59] <EvilDennisR> !pastebin
[08:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:00] <EvilDennisR> Whats your output, paste it there
[09:00] <IGxMyzt> Dennis: How can i copy 20 pages if ubuntu crashes?
[09:00] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: get typing (joke)
[09:00] <IGxMyzt> hahah
[09:00] <EvilDennisR> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:00] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: you have a terminal though right?
[09:01] <IGxMyzt> i have what came with 6.10
[09:01] <EvilDennisR> IGxMyzt: yeah, can you hit ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[09:01] <berent> NickGarvey : atleast is there some php site wherein I can see some good examples
[09:01] <EvilDennisR> IGxMyzt: yeah, can you hit ctrl+alt+F1 ... and get a login ?
[09:01] <NickGarvey> berent: google would know better than me, I know some java, thats about it
[09:01] <IGxMyzt> hold on, ill upload an image of what i get
[09:01] <SimonFlavelle> Hey guys, installed Ubuntu like an hour ago, and I'm wondering (because I have two drives, installed it on my smaller C: drive) how I can get my Windows files from my other drive?
[09:01] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: places > computer
[09:01] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: although, I don't see it for me, so one sec
[09:02] <EvilDennisR> SimonFlavelle: mount that shiznit
[09:02] <SimonFlavelle> I tried that earlier. "Unable to mount the selected volume" 'error: device /dev/hdc1 is not removable'
[09:02] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: yikes, could you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[09:02] <EvilDennisR> Sooo.. which drive do you have windowz installed on ?
[09:03] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey is ahead of the curve
[09:03] <SimonFlavelle> D: (my cdrom is E: )
[09:03] <EvilDennisR> then it should be /dev/hdb
[09:03] <EvilDennisR> well, /dev/hdb1
[09:03] <EvilDennisR> or whatever..
[09:03] <NickGarvey> hmm
[09:03] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: probably yeah, but if that doesn't work, please pastebin what I said
[09:03] <SimonFlavelle> Okay
[09:04] <EvilDennisR> didn't ubuntu find that drive for you automagically? whats in /etc/fstab ?
[09:04] <F-nkyMNK> Hey, is there a way to get a 'rescue root prompt' through GRUB?
[09:04] <neshya> ..
[09:05] <EvilDennisR> F-nkyMNK: Yeah... but I can't remember
[09:05] <NickGarvey> mount -a
[09:05] <SimonFlavelle> Here we go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15928/
[09:05] <NickGarvey> F-nkyMNK: google would say I'm sure
[09:05] <SillyG> I'm running linux 9. What makes ubuntu different from linux 9?
[09:05] <NickGarvey> SillyG: linux 9?..
[09:05] <EvilDennisR> SillyG: Linux 9?
[09:05] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Damn you scuba steve!!
[09:05] <SillyG> EvilDennisR: yes
[09:05] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: sudo mkdir /windows && sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /windows
[09:06] <EvilDennisR> SillyG: WTF exactly is linux 9 ?
[09:06] <NickGarvey> SillyG: I honestly.. have never heard of linux 9, and I have tried so many distros..
[09:06] <SimonFlavelle> Thanks, but now apparently I don't have permission to view the drive. :(
[09:06] <NickGarvey> SillyG: but, I hear that www.ubuntu.com is a good place to start
[09:06] <SillyG> im just bored
[09:06] <EvilDennisR> SillyG: You talking about redhat / fedora ?
[09:06] <SillyG> heh
[09:06] <yingfan> what does ubuntu have that debian hasnt? what tools, different packaging system etc?
[09:06] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: pastebin the error please
[09:07] <NickGarvey> yingfan: google my friend, google will tell all
[09:07] <EvilDennisR> yingfan: I use Debian
[09:07] <SillyG> i was talking about the old redhat 9 (shrike)
[09:07] <foug> does anyone know of a media player with a good equalizer? 12+headers atleast if possible
[09:07] <SillyG> ehh i should do something productive
[09:07] <EvilDennisR> SillyG: I'd grab ubuntu
[09:07] <NickGarvey> SillyG: do my essay for english
[09:07] <NickGarvey> SillyG: his idea is probably better though
[09:07] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Jesus dude.. You really sound like me
[09:07] <drumline_> anyone try Scalix here?
[09:08] <SillyG> its ok
[09:08] <mistersir> i'm trying to open/burn some iso images, and i'm getting this error CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format
[09:08] <mistersir> anyone know why ?
[09:08] <EvilDennisR> SillyG: I've been using Debian since around when it first came out
[09:08] <SillyG> i dont need ubuntu
[09:08] <SillyG> :)
[09:08] <sorcerer22> hey has anyone used cedega .. to play warcraf3 ... coz installed it and stuff but when i try to run it .. umm it says to make sure the cd is in the drive ... could anyone help me with this matter ?
[09:08] <NickGarvey> mistersir: check the md5 for the iso's?
[09:08] <EvilDennisR> SillyG: If you don't need it, then don't use it =)
[09:08] <Rynoo> is there a way to extract .rar archives on ubuntu?
[09:08] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: mount the cd and point wine to it..
[09:08] <mistersir> NickGarvey, no md5
[09:08] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: yous hould follow a tutorial or something, I'm sure there are plenty out there
[09:08] <SimonFlavelle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15929/
[09:08] <yingfan> well, i don't see anything on google that do "ubuntu vs. debian"
[09:09] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: huh .. wine .. inst cedega like win e?
[09:09] <SillyG> i was banned from this chat a few months ago :(
[09:09] <johnson> install unrar
[09:09] <Steil> if i have lots of large files, would it be more advantageous to use reiser3 or ext3?
[09:09] <drumline_> SillyG: heh.. .why
[09:09] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: of I'm sorry, yes, point cedega to it
[09:10] <SillyG> telling people about the "alt+printscreen+b" bug
[09:10] <SillyG> heh
[09:10] <NickGarvey> SillyG: I hope you got banned
[09:10] <NickGarvey> NO ONE HIT THAT BY THE WAY
[09:10] <sorcerer22> where in cedega does it give you that option .. coz it only detecs it to install i have noticed
[09:10] <drumline_> SillyG: what was that about?
[09:10] <NickGarvey> your kernel will reboot really fast
[09:10] <geekytrent> Steil, i use ext3, but reiserfs is suppose to be good better, but since ext3 is more supported..well, you get my drift
[09:10] <foug> does anyone know of a media player with a good equalizer? 12+headers atleast if possible
[09:10] <mjr> Steil, don't use reiserfs if you care about your data
[09:11] <geekytrent> damn, i can't seem to think tonight..."good better"
[09:11] <SimonFlavelle> NickGarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15929/
[09:11] <NickGarvey> drumline_: go into a console (ctrl alt f1), and hit alt + prt scn + space, it will show a list of things, and somes tuff will capitalized
[09:11] <Stickymaddness> mjr, why not use reiserfs?
[09:11] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: alt+printscreen+b crashes ubuntu? Lol
[09:11] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: you used sudo both times?
[09:11] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: if you want to be dumb, try it and find out
[09:11] <Steil> mjr: whats the problem with reiserfs?
[09:11] <mjr> it's just unrealiable
[09:11] <NickGarvey> mjr: eh.. its not that bad..
[09:11] <SimonFlavelle> Yes
[09:11] <foug> !listen
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about listen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <NickGarvey> I perfer ext3 but I'd used reiser
[09:11] <Steil> I've used reiserfs since 2002 without any problems
[09:12] <Steil> i was just wondering about which would give better performance
[09:12] <IGxMyzt> Nick: uploading pic now
[09:12] <Steil> i haven't really been able to find any decent benchmarks
[09:12] <NickGarvey> Steil: theres so many articles on google about it
[09:12] <NickGarvey> Steil: no? really? I read several
[09:12] <Steil> Steil: with a direct comparison to ext3?
[09:12] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: umm this is the error i get mount: special device /dev/hdf does not exist
[09:12] <mjr> I used it once at home, where it went haywire, and once at work as a backup cache disk, but it wasn't reliable enough for that either
[09:12] <kraut> moin
[09:12] <NickGarvey> Steil: http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html
[09:13] <mjr> granted the backup cache disk had lots of activity going on but that's not an excuse. Perchance a normal user doesn't stress the code that much
[09:13] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: it is configured incorrectly, there is nothing in /dev/hdf, it wants the cdo to be in the drive
[09:13] <Juanca> Hi, can you give me some advices for a good partitioning?
[09:13] <NickGarvey> cd*
[09:13] <IGxMyzt> Nick/Dennis: http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pictureqp6.jpg
[09:13] <NickGarvey> !partition | Juanca
[09:13] <ubotu> Juanca: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:13] <sorcerer22> where is that
[09:13] <NickGarvey> Juanca: bah, that was weak
[09:13] <Taime1> how do i tell my wireless card to go back to managed mode?
[09:13] <NickGarvey> Juanca: what are you looking to know?
[09:14] <foug> does anyone use listen media player?
[09:14] <fiery_cleric> Juanca: use fdisk
[09:14] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: run the command "sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:14] <DennisR> lol
[09:14] <Juanca> no, I'm about to install Ubuntu in a machine, and I will use vmware, what's the best way?
[09:14] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: how do i point it outiam having a difficult time doing that
[09:14] <NickGarvey> Juanca: if you are using vmware, defaults would do it
[09:14] <DennisR> alt+printscreen reboots really fast under debian too ;)
[09:14] <IGxMyzt> nick: how?
[09:15] <NickGarvey> DennisR: it is a command RIGHT to the kernel
[09:15] <DennisR> what is it? alt+printscreen+b ?
[09:15] <Juanca> NickGarvey:  What defaults?
[09:15] <NickGarvey> DennisR: yes
[09:15] <Taime1> i placed my wireless card in rfmon mode, and i cannot remember how to change it back to managed mode...can someone tell me the comand?
[09:15] <NickGarvey> Juanca: the default partitioning scheme that ubuntu has when you install
[09:15] <NickGarvey> Taime1: I think you can with iwconfig
[09:15] <DennisR> NickGarvey: Is it a real reboot thing, or a bug ?
[09:15] <NickGarvey> DennisR: not a bug, it is a kernel feature, I compiled it in myself in the gentoo one
[09:15] <NickGarvey> gentoo kernel*
[09:15] <johnson> it is a kernel feature: alt-sysrq magic keys
[09:16] <NickGarvey> ^ yeah
[09:16] <unimatrix9> has there been any other releases of feisty fawn, after the beta?
[09:16] <Juanca> ubotu: can you give me an advice on this?
[09:16] <NickGarvey> unimatrix9: not yet, things are being straightened out
[09:16] <unimatrix9> or ar we waiting for the freeze of the final?
[09:16] <NickGarvey> Juanca: ubotu is a bot, it is not a real person :)
[09:16] <IGxMyzt> Nick: how do i run sudo without booting ubuntu?
[09:17] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: how do i point it to my ced rom .. iam having a difficult time doing that
[09:17] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: you boot ubuntu, go to "ctrl alt f1" after you get that error
[09:17] <DennisR> NickGarvey: heh, that was worth the reboot to find that out =)
[09:17] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: the cd is in?
[09:17] <Juanca> NickGarvey: oh
[09:17] <sorcerer22> yup
[09:17] <unimatrix9> NickGarveym where can i read the top news on that?
[09:17] <IGxMyzt> ty, bbl
[09:17] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: could you pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" please?
[09:17] <NickGarvey> unimatrix9: mm...
[09:18] <NickGarvey> unimatrix9: I would think.. on www.ubuntu.com
[09:19] <unimatrix9> i looked there, but not much news, i also looked on the fridge, planet ubuntu etc...
[09:19] <NickGarvey> unimatrix9: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/pressreleasearchive
[09:19] <unimatrix9> i think you are right, we have to wait for the final round up...
[09:20] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15930/
[09:20] <elumbella> uh, where is the german channel?
[09:20] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: that is with sudo?
[09:20] <dfgas_> anyone use a nvidia geforece go 6100?
[09:20] <sorcerer22> yeah
[09:21] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: your cd isn't there
[09:21] <DennisR> sorcerer22: its not /dev/hdb ?
[09:21] <DennisR> or hdc ?
[09:21] <NickGarvey> DennisR: look at his fdisk, its just plain not there
[09:21] <DennisR> Well, thats an issue
[09:22] <NickGarvey> indeed
[09:22] <NickGarvey> so is my essay not being done
[09:22] <DennisR> NickGarvey: Whats your essay on..
[09:22] <NickGarvey> DennisR: alice in wonderland /headdesk
[09:22] <DennisR> wtf?
[09:22] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: so that means its not reodnizing my dvd drive ?
[09:23] <DennisR> NickGarvey: Who the hell has you write a paper on alice in wonderland ?
[09:23] <NickGarvey> DennisR: honors english for 11th grade.. alice in wonderland.. I don't see the connection either
[09:23] <sorcerer22> i mean the game installed throught cedega ?
[09:23] <DennisR> sorcerer22: Oh so its a dvd drive ?
[09:23] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: yes, which is what is confusing me
[09:23] <sorcerer22> DennisR: yeah it is
[09:23] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: could you pastebin /etc/fstab?
[09:23] <geekytrent> umm, didn't he just post it?
[09:24] <DennisR> NickGarvey: Make it all dark, like that Alice video game.
[09:24] <NickGarvey> geekytrent: no, sudo fdisk -l
[09:24] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: gave me a erros
[09:24] <geekytrent> oh
[09:24] <sorcerer22> its just /etc/fstab right
[09:24] <DennisR> yeah
[09:24] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: "sudo more /etc/fstab"
[09:25] <__hase> Since I have a USB mouse is there a way to turn off my mouse pad since I keep hitting it with my thumb while I type....
[09:25] <DennisR> NickGarvey: If you were me, and you're not which is a shame.. I'd pay someone to do your english paper for you
[09:25] <NickGarvey> __hase: turn.. off the mouse pad?
[09:25] <NickGarvey> DennisR: its due in.. 10 hours
[09:25] <__hase> i have a laptop
[09:25] <__hase> whatever you call it
[09:25] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15932/
[09:25] <NickGarvey> DennisR: and I go into school in 3
[09:25] <__hase> trackpad?
[09:25] <NickGarvey> 3.5*
[09:25] <DennisR> NickGarvey: See, you should of gotten someone to do that shit days ago
[09:25] <NickGarvey> __hase: you wan to turn off the touchpad?
[09:26] <NickGarvey> !ohmy | DennisR
[09:26] <ubotu> DennisR: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:26] <__hase> yes
[09:26] <NickGarvey> __hase: like.. so it doesn't go back on? (under ubuntu)
[09:26] <DennisR> NickGarvey: First of all.. I'm a developer in #pidgin.. That is a PG channel. You can say SHIT in a PG Movie.
[09:26] <__hase> well
[09:26] <__hase> I wouldn
[09:26] <__hase> 't mind turning it off every time i turned the com,puter on
[09:26] <NickGarvey> DennisR: nice man, I use gaim for everything, and ops are a bit more picky here
[09:26] <drumline_> It's a Parental Guidance channel.
[09:27] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey:  hey is that what you wanted to see?
[09:27] <DennisR> NickGarvey: Its ok =)
[09:27] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: yes, it should be /dev/hdf
[09:27] <__hase> Is this channel family friendly?  Really?
[09:27] <NickGarvey> __hase: /msg ubotu coc
[09:27] <ardchoille> DennisR: This is not a PG movie, it is a support channel.. and I have an 8 year old niece who frequents this channel. Please keep it family-friendly.
[09:27] <unimatrix9> this is really cool, an pdf magazine about the histroy ( young ) of ubuntu
[09:27] <DennisR> __hase: it means you can't go around saying fsckidy fsck fsck fsck..
[09:27] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: so what should i do . to make it that in cedega ?
[09:27] <unimatrix9> any one interested?
[09:28] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: it seemed.. that is where it was looking.. is the cd in the drive?
[09:28] <unimatrix9> its an free download
[09:28] <__hase> Well, regardless, does anyone know how to turn off the touchpad on a laptop under ubuntu?
[09:28] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: yeah it is inthe drive
[09:28] <unimatrix9> _hase, just insert an usb mouse?
[09:28] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: figured I'd give it a shot..
[09:28] <__hase> nope
[09:28] <__hase> have both
[09:28] <corden> any ubuntu user here who is using vmware to run other distro?
[09:28] <unimatrix9> history of ubuntu , free magazine....
[09:28] <unimatrix9> http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/
[09:28] <unimatrix9> pdf download, really cool
[09:28] <DennisR> ardchoille: Believe me.. Go hang out in #guifications for a while... You'll hear the stuff I say all the time
[09:29] <corden> or ubuntu inside thw vmware
[09:29] <DennisR> corden: I run XP under vmware on my ubuntu box at work
[09:29] <unimatrix9> _hase, i think you can comment the mouse out in xorg config
[09:29] <DennisR> corden: Not quite the same thing..
[09:29] <drumline_> unimatrix9: we should be able to turn off the pad with the button that comes on the laptop...  using a USB mouse shouldn't be the only solution to that.
[09:29] <`> corden what's ur mean/
[09:29] <unimatrix9> but be sure to back up the old conf
[09:30] <Fafner> hi all, is there an easy way to get rdp server running under ubuntu?
[09:30] <NickGarvey> corden: what do you need regarding vmware?
[09:30] <crolle17> which command shows me the charset of a file?
[09:30] <VSpike> corden: I'm running that distro from Redmond :)
[09:30] <unimatrix9> cool magazine , last offer...http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/
[09:30] <DennisR> NickGarvey: You still should of gotten someone else in your class to write your paper ;)
[09:30] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:30] <igknighted> anybody here know anything about setting up servers?
[09:31] <crolle17> tried file my_file.html but didn't work
[09:31] <NickGarvey> !anybody
[09:31] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:31] <corden> I just ask a ##linux channel on that distro to quad boot. Currently I have XP and UBuntu, since Im addict to linux now i wan to see the other distro
[09:31] <corden> somebody suggest vmware
[09:31] <unimatrix9> corden , no osx?
[09:31] <unimatrix9> :P
[09:31] <NickGarvey> corden: ahah yes, I wished someone told me about that a while ago, I used SO many cdr on linux distros
[09:31] <wj32> DennisR: alt+sysrq+b is nearly equivalent to pressing the reset button on your pc
[09:31] <__hase> there's no button on my laptop about that
[09:31] <`> i had installed FC on ubuntu
[09:31] <igknighted> haha, ok, that kinda was my main question... i have the lamp server up and running, my struggles now are getting a domain name
[09:32] <corden> Specially now im happy with my work cause I'm using UBuntu 8 hours/day :)
[09:32] <__hase> =(
[09:32] <crolle17> which command shows me the charset of a file?
[09:32] <drumline_> VMWare is definitely nice
[09:32] <NickGarvey> igknighted: its very very easy to do
[09:32] <DennisR> wj32: I realize that now.. I was completely unaware of it until now though..
[09:32] <wj32> DennisR: doesn't cleanly unmount your filesystems, doesn't cleanly terminate processes
[09:32] <corden> Im currelty installing it
[09:32] <wj32> DennisR: ok
[09:32] <drumline_> If you want those VMs to run smoothly though, you should have lots of RAM and force the entire thing into memory
[09:32] <NickGarvey> 2G ftw
[09:32] <Zoiks> can someone give me a help with a silly little problem?
[09:32] <DennisR> wj32: Don't worry, I'm not a linux newbe ;)
[09:32] <NickGarvey> Zoiks: ask away
[09:32] <DennisR> Zoiks: No!
[09:33] <unimatrix9> go ahead and ask!
[09:33] <DennisR> heh
[09:33] <Zoiks> lol NickGarvey
[09:33] <Zoiks> when I try and open up help documents or links from programs
[09:33] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: I don't see you.. under the pigdin devs
[09:33] <unimatrix9> DennisR, dont use the darkforce...
[09:33] <corden> unimatrix, i think my pc wont pass the system req. I'm just using P3 800 256mb
[09:33] <NickGarvey> corden: mm.. vmware might make it explode..
[09:34] <crolle17> tried file my_file.html but didn't work
[09:34] <Zoiks> swiftfox often tries to go to a website but with the incorrect url
[09:34] <Zoiks> eg
[09:34] <NickGarvey> corden: unless its like dsl
[09:34] <`> corden: o?
[09:34] <NickGarvey> Zoiks: I don't totally understand
[09:34] <Zoiks> file:///home/matt/%22http://musicbrainz.org:80/taglookup.html?tport=8000&artist=Red%20Hot%20Chili%20Peppers&release=Greatest%20Hits&track=&tracknum=0&duration=0&filename=&puid=%22
[09:34] <ashcb> will ubuntu run on microsoft virtual pc ?  it seems to hang for me when installing
[09:34] <unimatrix9> corden : for vmware and virtual machines : 512 ram at least
[09:34] <unimatrix9> ram is cheap
[09:34] <NickGarvey> `: thats a crazy obnoxious user name
[09:34] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: I'm in #pidgin.. I wrote the man page many a years ago.. I do dev testing stuff mostely now a days
[09:34] <corden> waaaaaaaaaaa
[09:34] <qwehnce> while trying to remove ttf-opensymbol, apt-get returns the error failed to write cache
[09:34] <unimatrix9> corden, you have an low end machine!
[09:34] <corden> but dont worry Im at the office now it has 512 :)
[09:35] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=235 that was where I was looking
[09:35] <qwehnce> fontconfig cache returns failed to write cache
[09:35] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: http://dennisr.net/gaim/
[09:35] <drumline_> corden: if you want to run 4 linuxes at once, you should have over 1Gig of Memory
[09:35] <Zoiks> so it tries to open up the right site
[09:35] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Nah, I'm not on there
[09:35] <corden> it sempron here at its a lap top --- have problem with lap top :)
[09:35] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: but, I do see you in the man page :)
[09:35] <unimatrix9> corden ; it will run ubuntu fine, but not the virtual machines though
[09:35] <Zoiks> but puts a file:///home/matt/%22
[09:35] <Zoiks> in front of the correct url
[09:35] <igknighted> NickGarvey, I'm on a site where I am registering a domain, but it needs to know dns servers, and I'm not sure what to put
[09:36] <corden> tnx for the info guys
[09:36] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: I don't contribute anything significant anymore to be on that page ;)
[09:36] <NickGarvey> igknighted: why does it need those?
[09:36] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: ah I see :), well either way, gaim/pidgin is good stuff
[09:36] <corden> i guess i ned to save money to buy new pc :)
[09:36] <crolle17> nobody knows the command for getting the charset of a file?
[09:36] <Zoiks> any idea guys?
[09:36] <NickGarvey> crolle17: perhaps.. "charset"
[09:36] <dreamcastjack> do I need a Anti-Virus/Spyware remover for Linux?
[09:36] <NickGarvey> crolle17: doesn't look like it though...
[09:37] <NickGarvey> !virus | dreamcastjack
[09:37] <ubotu> dreamcastjack: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[09:37] <igknighted> haha, that I dont know :)
[09:37] <igknighted> it says:  If you're hosting these domains elsewhere, click here to set nameservers.
[09:37] <NickGarvey> igknighted: I don't think I needed any when I set up mien...
[09:37] <`> dreamcastjack: no need i think
[09:37] <igknighted> where did you register your domain?
[09:37] <dreamcastjack> thanks guys
[09:37] <crolle17> NickGarvey unfortunately not.
[09:37] <`> dreamcastjack: just setup ur firewall
[09:38] <crolle17> NickGarvey reading the man:  Set an ACM for use in one of the G0/G1 charset slots.
[09:38] <crolle17> just only wanna read the charset of a file
[09:38] <NickGarvey> crolle17: yeah, hm
[09:38] <Zoiks> NickGarvey: any idea?
[09:38] <ashcb> bye
[09:39] <ashcb> quit
[09:39] <NickGarvey> crolle17: file didn't work? seems to have worked for me..
[09:39] <crolle17> no
[09:39] <EvilDennisR> ashcb: /quit
[09:39] <crolle17> only for text-files
[09:39] <NickGarvey> Zoiks: that would be... poor html file writing more than anything
[09:40] <crolle17> besides file just only determines the file type for getting the information which program to use for opening
[09:40] <EvilDennisR> Zoiks: what are you trying to do ?
[09:40] <Zoiks> EvilDennisR: im trying to use MusicBrainz Picard but I have seen the same issue in another program before
[09:41] <unimatrix9> the history of ubuntu magazine pdf format ( nice read! ) http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/
[09:41] <EvilDennisR> Zoiks: No idea.. never use it
[09:42] <EvilDennisR> hrrm... I should go to sleep
[09:42] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: night :)
[09:42] <cat> hey everyone can someone tell me which release version is the testing on ubuntu?
[09:42] <cat> because in debian is etch
[09:42] <crolle17> anybody else an idea how to read the charset of a file?
[09:42] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Keyword here was *should*
[09:42] <NickGarvey> cat: feisty
[09:43] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: hah, exactly how I am
[09:43] <dreamcastjack> when the 19th strolls around I just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:43] <NickGarvey> !upgrade| dreamcastjack
[09:43] <ubotu> dreamcastjack: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:44] <EvilDennisR> cat: hrrm.. For some reason I thought etch was unstable, but you're right.. I'm using sid (unstable)
[09:45] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: etch came out recently if I recall
[09:45] <NickGarvey> I almost had a heart attack
[09:45] <cat> lol
[09:45] <Dandre> Hello,
[09:45] <EvilDennisR> I've been using sid forever
[09:45] <EvilDennisR> Good ol' Sid... Like to destroy Toys..
[09:45] <NickGarvey> Dandre: greetings
[09:45] <Dandre> I have a problem with my ubuntu under gnome:
[09:45] <EvilDennisR> A man after my own heart
[09:45] <NickGarvey> Dandre: do share
[09:46] <romeomajk> Could any1 help me out? I am suddenly unable to Add tomboy notes to my pannel...
[09:46] <igknighted> EvilDennisR, have you tried Sidux? makes Sid much more pleasant :)
[09:46] <Halitech> Dandre what kind of problems?
[09:46] <Dandre> when I use it locally, no problem but if I use it remotely from an xserver I have long login timeout
[09:46] <Halitech> Dandre are you still logged in locally?
[09:47] <NickGarvey> Dandre: xdmcp login?
[09:47] <EvilDennisR> igknighted: Nah.. I don't have any issues with sid.. if I do, I usually waste time on fixing it
[09:47] <Dandre> Halitech: No
[09:47] <Halitech> Dandre router or any other firewall hardware or software?
[09:47] <Dandre> the login screen is fine but after authenticating there is a long timeout
[09:48] <romeomajk> I get: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:ToboyApplet". Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?...
[09:48] <Dandre> Halitech: I am on the same physical network
[09:48] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Now the real question is... Do I go to sleep, and possibly lay in bed for a while until I fall asleep.. or do I make another drink so that I definitely pass the hell(fsck) right out
[09:49] <Halitech> Dandre what program are you using to connect?
[09:49] <xjkx> Does the normal ubuntu cd installs on SATA hds? i mean with no internet access and not interested to get another cd
[09:49] <Dandre> if I run  'gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator', I get this error:
[09:49] <Dandre> (gnome-terminal:6643): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:49] <Dandre> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:49] <Dandre> I use gdm
[09:49] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: Don't paste in the channel
[09:49] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: I'm a choice #3 kinda guy
[09:49] <EvilDennisR> !pastebin ?
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <EvilDennisR> !pastebin
[09:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:49] <eck> xjkx: it should be fine
[09:50] <EvilDennisR> pos..
[09:50] <crimsun> xjkx: yes. It's a single-CD install.
[09:50] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: I already watched porn earlier, so its have a drink or to not have a drink
[09:50] <xjkx> crimsun how do i do? its the same default instalation?
[09:50] <Halitech> Dandre have you tried using vncviewer to connect?
[09:50] <crimsun> xjkx: just boot off the CD.
[09:50] <Dandre> sorry EvilDennisR but it wasn't a very long paste
[09:51] <crolle17> hey guys don't let me go under.
[09:51] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: I know.. Just for future reference ;)
[09:51] <Dandre> ok thanks ;-)
[09:51] <NickGarvey> Dandre: yeah not a big issue, but >2 lines, a pastebin is a good idea so ops don't have a seizure
[09:51] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: I'm just kinda hanging out in here, so it doesn't matter to me either way.. if I didn't say it, someone else would have
[09:51] <foug> when i play videos it's really laggy. Trying to watch a .avi in I think totem, should i maybe try a different program?
[09:51] <NickGarvey> that someone woulda been me, but I would have piped it
[09:51] <EvilDennisR> foug: mplayer
[09:51] <Halitech> foug try vlc
[09:52] <NickGarvey> foug: dma on?
[09:52] <foug> NickGarvey: how do i check that?
[09:52] <eck> foug: maybe, but pretty much all the video players use the same video decoding library (libavcodec)
[09:52] <NickGarvey> foug: hdparm -d /dev/hda
[09:52] <Dandre> should I install vncserver Halitech?
[09:52] <xjkx> how is ubuntu hardware's compatibility? I know it supports many hardware, is there a kind of hardware it doesnt support i should know?
[09:52] <tolonuga> hi. maybe someone knows: can I "debootstrap" fisty with the etgy version of debootstrap? I only want to check if my software compiles under dapper, edgy, feisty, sarge and etch...
[09:52] <foug> Halitech: i did and it still lags when i go to full screen
[09:52] <Halitech> Dandre I was using it when I had my network setup and didn't have any problems so might be worth a shot
[09:53] <NickGarvey> tolonuga: honestly, that question is probably more complicated than people in this channel know right now (unless someone can prove me wrong, please do)
[09:53] <foug> NickGarvey: permissoin denied
[09:53] <crimsun> tolonuga: yes, and then --override-config up to feisty
[09:53] <NickGarvey> foug: sudo!
[09:53] <eck> foug: you will probably get very similar performance from all of them for that reason
[09:53] <foug> eck: how do i unlag my vids?
[09:53] <eck> NickGarvey: i think the cpu is more likely to be the issue than the hdd
[09:53] <crimsun> tolonuga: err, sorry, misparsed that as pbuilder. But yes, you can.
[09:53] <Halitech> foug which version and what do you have for a system? (ie, cpu and ram)
[09:53] <eck> foug: find out what the bottleneck is
[09:53] <NickGarvey> eck: which is why I would just dma
[09:53] <foug> NickGarvey: it's on
[09:53] <tolonuga> great, thanks!
[09:53] <eck> foug: if your cpu usage is maxed out, then there isn't much you can do
[09:53] <NickGarvey> eck: because it goes through the cpu if it isn't
[09:54] <foug> Halitech: 1.8 ahtlon xp, 1gig of ram, 6800gs video card. My stuff never lagged in Windows
[09:54] <foug> eck: it's not even using 20%
[09:54] <Halitech> foug sounds like a dma issue to me
[09:54] <foug> Halitech: which is fixed how
[09:54] <NickGarvey> Halitech: he said its on though..
[09:54] <Dandre> Halitech: I don't have anything listening a port 5900. I haven't found a good vnc server though
[09:55] <xjkx> where can i check unsupported hardware?
[09:55] <xjkx> list*
[09:55] <foug> and yes my dma is on, it = 1
[09:55] <crolle17> How To Read The Charset Of a File?
[09:55] <Dandre> NickGarvey: what do you mean about xdmcp login?
[09:55] <Halitech> foug sorry, missed where you said it ws on
[09:55] <eck> foug: use hdparm -tT (or whatever it is) to check your hdd bandwidth
[09:55] <NickGarvey> Dandre: um.. I was wondering how you were logging in
[09:55] <foug> Halitech: it's np
[09:56] <foug> eck: do i type sudo first
[09:56] <Halitech> Dandre sudo apt-get install xvncserver
[09:56] <eck> foug: i'm not sure, just try it both ways :-)
[09:56] <EvilDennisR> Halitech: vino-server ?
[09:56] <arooni> how can i download MP3s?
[09:56] <foug> eck: i did it without and it listed a bunch of stuff, the alhphabet...lol
[09:56] <Halitech> EvilDennisR I just used vncserver
[09:57] <EvilDennisR> arooni: what kinda question is that ?
[09:57] <arooni> heh welll i mean
[09:57] <eck> foug: oh, you need to put the drive as the target
[09:57] <eck> foug: e.g. sudo hdparm -tT /dev/dsa
[09:57] <arooni> what is the kazaa /bittorrent equivalent
[09:57] <eck> sda rather
[09:57] <Dandre> Halitech: I have done it but I can login with that, and I haven't found how to have my gnome desktop with vnc
[09:57] <arooni> on ubuntu
[09:57] <Halitech> arooni bittorrent
[09:57] <NickGarvey> arooni: the bittorrent equivelent is bittorrent, although I am SURE you are doing all of this legally
[09:57] <Flannel> arooni: bittorrent is available for linux.  Ubuntu comes with bittornado already
[09:57] <foug> eck: what would that look like? i'm a big noob, sry
[09:57] <arooni> yes
[09:57] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: vino-server
[09:57] <arooni> i only want legal mp3s
[09:58] <arooni> isnt there a really popular open source file sharing thing
[09:58] <NickGarvey> :)
[09:58] <arooni> azaareus or something
[09:58] <NickGarvey> !frostwire | arooni
[09:58] <ubotu> arooni: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:58] <aubade> arooni: Hold on a second. X)
[09:58] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: Should come already with ubuntu
[09:58] <eck> foug: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15938/
[09:58] <Halitech> Dandre wish my network was still up but maybe try the vino-server that evildennis is talking about
[09:59] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: You convinced me... I'll go make another capatain and coke zero
[09:59] <aubade> Ah nevermind, I'll never remember the name of that start-up that was strictly free music. lol
[09:59] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: good choice :)
[09:59] <EvilDennisR> s/capatain/captain/
[09:59] <aubade> There's what is in public domain over @ archive.org.
[09:59] <Halitech> Dandre I think I used xvncviewer ipaddress:1
[09:59] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: In a tall frosty pint glass straight from the freezer.. Along with the tall frosty captain bottle, also straight from the freezer..
[09:59] <arooni> so this azareus thing
[09:59] <arooni> doenst exist?
[09:59] <Flannel> !azureus | arooni
[09:59] <ubotu> arooni: azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[10:00] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: ipaddress:0
[10:00] <eck> foug: if it looks even reasonably close to those numbers you are fine... you could try another video player like mplayer, but i'm not really sure what the problem is so i'm not sure if that would help
[10:00] <Halitech> arooni yes it does
[10:00] <Dandre> as far as I understand, there must be a local session to use vino
[10:00] <arooni> ahhh
[10:00] <crolle17> How To Read The Charset Of a File?
[10:00] <foug> eck: mine did good,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15939/
[10:00] <xjkx> Flannel do you know how azureus is an EXE on windows, even though its java?
[10:00] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: yeah.. If you fire up vino-server it will run a vnc server on the local client
[10:00] <eck> foug: yeah, mine is a 4800 rpm hard drive or something like that :-)
[10:00] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: So what are you exactly trying to do? View a server, or setup a server on your local machine that you CAN view ?
[10:01] <k6rfm> crolle17,  well, unless the file is self-identfying like MIME or has a provenance, it's just guessing
[10:01] <foug> eck: :D
[10:01] <foug> eck: brb
[10:01] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: think about that, and let me know while i go get a drink..
[10:01] <k6rfm> crolle17, in UNIX files are just bits
[10:01] <Dandre> I want to use my ubuntu remote from my desktop w/o login locally either vnc or xwindow
[10:02] <Flannel> xjkx: the .exe is just a wrapper that calls the jar file
[10:02] <Flannel> Dandre: ssh?
[10:03] <F-nkyMNK> Anyone know how to force an NTP update?
[10:03] <Flannel> F-nkyMNK: ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[10:03] <Steil> Dandre: if you want graphical interface, setup gdm to allow remote connections
[10:03] <eck> F-nkyMNK: i think you might have to have the ntpd stopped to issue an ntpdate
[10:04] <Flannel> F-nkyMNK: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/NTP.html  I suggest ntpd over ntpdate (and cron)
[10:04] <F-nkyMNK> Flannel: Sweet, thanks mate
[10:04] <F-nkyMNK> eck & Flannel: That worked a treat
[10:04] <arooni> whats limewire
[10:04] <aknot> hi :) anyone have any good tip on network installation on laptop without cd and pcmcia nic??
[10:04] <Dandre> NickGarvey: I have installed cygwin on my winxp and I was trying to login with wdmcp. I get the login screen correctly but after authenticating, I have a ~5 min timeout ending with a gnome desktop but with an error complaining about gcond error
[10:04] <eck> aknot: if your computer supports pxe boot that is an option
[10:05] <crolle17> k6rfm you mean tehre is no command for this?
[10:05] <aknot> eck: it doesnt :/
[10:05] <Flannel> Dandre: Youre on the same subnet, right?  both behind the same router, etc?
[10:05] <crolle17> there
[10:05] <eck> aknot: also, if you already have linux installed you can use grub to boot the contents of an iso, that is how i installed on my cd-less laptop
[10:05] <NickGarvey> Dandre: on the ubuntu machine, make sure you enable remote logins
[10:05] <Dandre> Flannel: yes the same subnet
[10:05] <eck> aknot: (well originally i used a usb cd drive)
[10:05] <EvilDennisR> I'm back baby </Bender>
[10:05] <k6rfm> crolle17, no, not in general.
[10:05] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: hey mate you there ..
[10:05] <Flannel> Dandre: you'll need to make sure you've allowed connections between the two via UDP
[10:05] <Dandre> NickGarvey: it is enabled
[10:06] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: yup
[10:06] <aknot> eck: i have fiddled abit with that but busybox hangs during boot and i cant mount the hdd where iso is placed
[10:06] <foug> eck: is there a way to install mplayer through the terminal?
[10:06] <eck> foug: apt-get install mplayer
[10:06] <eck> foug: it is in multiverse
[10:06] <crolle17> k6rfm but file is able to do this job (for simple text-files)
[10:06] <foug> eck: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[10:06] <eck> aknot: do you just have windows on the computer right now?
[10:06] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: mate .. whats going on i still get the error saying insert disk ..
[10:06] <eck> foug: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[10:06] <foug> eck: i think i have the right repositories, hmm
[10:07] <aknot> eck: nopes running deb4.0
[10:07] <foug> eck: ahh yea that worked
[10:07] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: um.. mm.. is cedega running as root?
[10:07] <arooni> hmmm
[10:07] <aknot> eck: i also have an usb cd....but not the iso file burnt on it
[10:07] <eck> aknot: grab the network boot.iso, put the contents on the debian partition, and point grub at its kernel/initrd
[10:07] <sorcerer22> how do i check that
[10:07] <arooni> i cant run frostwire with java: java version "1.5.0_08"
[10:08] <eck> aknot: it will boot up like you used a cd
[10:08] <EvilDennisR> One thing I wasn't sure I liked about ubuntu is having to use sudo for everything.. Now I know you can get a shell with sudo, but theres something just not right about not using the root account.. Thats the first thing I fixed after I installed, I made root a real user that I could su
[10:08] <Flannel> !install | aknot
[10:08] <ubotu> aknot: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:08] <arooni> any suggestions
[10:08] <Flannel> arooni: first link there has a netboot walkthrough thing
[10:08] <aknot> eck: i do have that in menu.lst but i cant find a networkboot iso
[10:08] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: how do i check that out
[10:08] <eck> aknot: of course, you should do the partitioning beforehand
[10:08] <foug> eck: hmm, still lags
[10:08] <arooni> Flannel: are u talking about: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:08] <eck> aknot: let me see, i have it bookmarked
[10:08] <Flannel> arooni: make sure you're using sun's java, not blackdown or whatever
[10:08] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: are you doing gksudo cedega?
[10:09] <Flannel> aknot: first link there has a netboot walkthrough thing
[10:09] <sorcerer22> no iam running from the gui
[10:09] <Flannel> arooni: sorry, that last one was supposed to go to him
[10:09] <Halitech> EvilDennisR I've never used any other version but to me, I can see the sense of it so we don't open a terminal, forget we logged in as root and then royally mess up
[10:09] <arooni> Flannel: i am using sun's java.... version 1.5.something
[10:09] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: iam runningit as a gui
[10:10] <Flannel> arooni: then I have no idea.  Make sure you didn't skip anything on that page
[10:10] <eck> aknot: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[10:10] <wolke> hi! how can i password-protect a zip file?
[10:10] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: perhaps, #cedega would help
[10:10] <EvilDennisR> Halitech: This is true.. Using sudo really does put "i'm a retard" into the equation
[10:10] <aknot> thx dewds will chk it
[10:10] <eck> aknot: either the boot.iso or the tarball will do
[10:10] <NickGarvey> wolke: zip -P
[10:10] <Dandre> Flannel: how should I allow connections between via UDP?
[10:11] <foug> in the terminal called terminal in all linux distros?
[10:11] <wolke> NickGarvey: I know. But if a file is zipped already
[10:11] <EvilDennisR> Halitech: Which, putting "i'm a retard" into the equation, really isn't such a bad thing when you want inexperienced users to use your platform.
[10:11] <NickGarvey> wolke: oh, um.. unzip it.. and then.. rezip it?
[10:11] <Halitech> EvilDennisR true but at least it's not as annoying as the vista POPUPS
[10:11] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: there are plenty of real benefits of using sudo over root.
[10:11] <NickGarvey> Halitech: allow or deny?
[10:11] <eck> foug: there are lots of different terminal emulators...
[10:11] <wj32> NickGarvey has asked a question. Cancel or Allow?
[10:11] <eck> foug: generally they are all just called "terminals" though
[10:11] <wj32> (thats more like it)
[10:11] <EvilDennisR> Halitech: AHH! LA LA LA! CAN'T HEAR YOU! *Covers Ears*
[10:11] <Halitech> NickGarvey ok, you owe me a monitor cleaning ~L~
[10:12] <foug> eck: the terminal emulates what
[10:12] <Flannel> Dandre: it should be allowed by default.  But if you have any firewall sorts of things, you'll have to make sure.  I think with norton you have to put something about the other computer on a "trusted" list or ... someting.  I dont really remember.
[10:12] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: ...Such as?
[10:12] <eck> foug: a serial terminal
[10:12] <Flannel> !sudo | EvilDennisR
[10:12] <ubotu> EvilDennisR: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:12] <aknot> eck: reminds me, there aint any networkboot floppies around with pcmcia support???
[10:12] <foug> eck:  thanks
[10:12] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: Dude, I know what sudo does
[10:12] <wolke> NickGarvey: And how can i add more than one file to one archive?
[10:12] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: read that page.  Stuff like graduated permissions
[10:12] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: there's a link there.
[10:12] <wj32> ubotu: ALL information? That's wrong.
[10:12] <NickGarvey> wolke: uh.. I tend to toss it in a folder..
[10:12] <eck> foug: one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vt100
[10:12] <NickGarvey> wolke: and zip the folder
[10:13] <wolke> NickGarvey: Good Idea. Thanks
[10:13] <eck> aknot: i have never tried a floppy install, i'm not sure
[10:13] <xjkx> Flannel and this wrapper is written in C ? is this wrapper opensource?
[10:13] <foug> eck: right on
[10:13] <Flannel> xjkx: I have no idea.  I imagine it's open source, yes.  You'd have to ask the azureus people, or just check the source
[10:13] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: I've been using Linux for 12+ years, and Debian for ~10.. That includes using root as a user, and I have yet to have a problem ;)
[10:14] <aknot> eck:  okido will fiddle some then and see if i can get it working
[10:14] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: just because you've been usnig something, doesn't mean there aren't better things out there.
[10:14] <aknot> eck: thx mate
[10:14] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: I'm not doubting you..
[10:15] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: But what I've been doing thus far hasn't failed me yet
[10:15] <Halitech> I do have a question, I currently have 6.06 installed on a 30 gig drive with a duron 1.3, I just bought a P4 1.8 and a 60 gig drive, should I wait a week till fiesty is out and do a clean install on the 60 with the new to me board or would I be able to swap the boards and have it boot okay?
[10:15] <fiction> How do i register my name?
[10:15] <xjkx> where is the minium recommended list to install? like memory, hd...
[10:15] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: I'm sure there are advantages to using it with systems that have more than one user with root access..
[10:15] <drumline_> Halitech: why would you personally want to wait for Feisty?
[10:15] <fiction> register my name on irc, that is
[10:16] <drumline_> Halitech: is there any feature that you want?
[10:16] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: shrug.  The benefit of a single-person box is that to crack your box, they have to figure out username and password.  with root enabled, they already have half of that
[10:16] <LordLimecat> !ubuntu
[10:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:16] <LordLimecat> er
[10:16] <LordLimecat> !paste
[10:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:17] <Halitech> drumline: not really sure on any of the new features so thats why I'm asking if it will boot okay or will I need to do a fresh install and should I go with fiesty
[10:17] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: Not questioning your judgement
[10:17] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: But if they crack a user with sudo access, whats the difference from that vs a root passwd ?
[10:18] <joshjosh> problem: Won't recognize USB devices (mouse, iPod etc) if they're plugged in after bootup...if they're plugged n during, it works fine. Any idaes?
[10:18] <LordLimecat> if anyone wants to take a crack @ it, heres the error i get on make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd  etc
[10:18] <LordLimecat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15943/
[10:18] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: there is none.  But if they cracked your root password, they'd have your box anyway.
[10:18] <LordLimecat> really just want this to compile right -_-
[10:18] <netusr01> i hav a prob with my ubuntu - can anyone help ?
[10:19] <NickGarvey> !anyone
[10:19] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:19] <LordLimecat> !ask
[10:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:19] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: You are correct. If they cracked a user with sudo access, they'd have your box anyways as well.. I don't see a difference.
[10:19] <drumline_> Halitech: is this a desktop or a server?
[10:19] <Dandre> Flannel: I have disabled my FW and know I can gksu w/o problem. I am login off and on to see if thos fixes my login issue, thanx
[10:19] <NickGarvey> Halitech: feisty is still beta, no promises everything will work fine
[10:19] <Halitech> drumline: desktop mainly but I do run apache for personal use
[10:20] <DVS01> after installing ubuntu and trying to boot up, i get an error. after "* Mounting local filesystems...", i get this: "[17179596.920000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!"
[10:20] <netusr01> ok - libcairo is not updating - what do i do ?
[10:20] <NickGarvey> DVS01: yikes, report that
[10:20] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: they have to guess/figure out both login and password, instead of knowing login == "root"
[10:20] <Halitech> NickGarvey: I know but it is supposed to be released this week isn't it?
[10:20] <richardh_> hey everyone...I'm having trouble with my CPU and its temperature (possibly ACPI connected)
[10:20] <drumline_> Halitech: if it's a desktop and you care about new features, wait about a week and a half and install then..  :)   If you don't care at all about new features, load it now.  6.06 has long term support and you'll be just fine with it.
[10:21] <NickGarvey> Halitech: yeah but things are being pushed back a bit
[10:21] <DVS01> NickGarvey: googling it now.. seems to be an issue with my wireless network card =/
[10:21] <DVS01> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/64125
[10:21] <Flannel> NickGarvey: not necessarily.  RC was pushed back, it's effect on final is yet unseen
[10:21] <NickGarvey> DVS01: ick..
[10:21] <Dandre> Flannel: that was it, many thanks :-)
[10:21] <DVS01> is there a way to prevent the driver from loading?
[10:22] <DVS01> hrm i guess i'll just use a livecd
[10:22] <NickGarvey> DVS01: modprobe blacklist Iw ould think
[10:22] <Flannel> !blacklist | DVS01
[10:22] <ubotu> DVS01: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[10:22] <Halitech> drumline: ok, sounds like a good idea. what about just moving the drive to the new board? any issues with that?
[10:22] <DVS01> if this driver is static, then i cannot stop it from loading, correct?
[10:22] <richardh_> Uh, 83 is not a normal temp for a system, right?
[10:22] <DVS01> richardh_: celsius?
[10:23] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: I'm not doubting this.. Really the bottom line is to enforce strong passwords to begin with...
[10:23] <Halitech> NickGarvey: ok, no hurry to upgrade so can wait if needed
[10:23] <xjkx> !minimum recommended ubuntu
[10:23] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: and more importantly, firewall?
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[10:23] <LordLimecat> and limit listening services?
[10:23] <xjkx> lmao
[10:23] <NickGarvey> xjkx: mm its on www.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <xjkx> NickGarvey did not find
[10:23] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Was that a question.
[10:24] <LordLimecat> you can have the strongest password in the world, with no firewall and an unpassworded VNC, yer 1/2 hacked anyways
[10:24] <richardh_> dvs01: yep
[10:24] <Halitech> richardh_ what type of processor?
[10:24] <NickGarvey> xjkx: Ubuntu is available for PC, 64-Bit and Mac architectures. CDs require at least 256 MB of RAM. Install requires at least 2 GB of disk space.
[10:24] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: sort of not really o.0
[10:24] <NickGarvey> xjkx: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktopedition
[10:24] <wj32> LordLimecat: What if there isn't a graphical session running?
[10:24] <richardh_> halitech: centrino dual core
[10:24] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Well if you have an unpassworded vnc you deserved to get hacked in the first palce ;)
[10:24] <DVS01> ha
[10:24] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone know how to show which port an application is using ?
[10:25] <LordLimecat> true... but what if the unencrypted password gets intercepted :)
[10:25] <DVS01> turning off killswitch fixes problem.. weird
[10:25] <LordLimecat> strong password on my box has never really been my concern, its the listeners
[10:25] <fiery_cleric> LaNCeloT_RW: netstat -p or -o i think
[10:25] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Don't use your vnc passwd as your system password =)
[10:25] <Flannel> xjkx: You can install on less RAM with the alternate CD
[10:25] <LaNCeloT_RW> fiery_cleric:  let me test
[10:25] <__hase> The more I use ubuntu the more I realize I don't know how to use ubuntu and that the guides aren't very helpful.  I can't get beryl to startup automatically with sessions, I can't get quicktime or one other kind of internet stream to work (wma? or something) though I did get flash to work and that made me proud, and I still can't enable and disable my touchpad at will despite adding the line to xorg.conf that was supposed to allow me to do that
[10:25] <xjkx> thanks :] ] ] ] ] 
[10:25] <EvilDennisR> vnc sucks to begin with..
[10:26] <wj32> is the vnc password stored unencrypted?
[10:26] <Flannel> Halitech: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[10:26] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: not when helping people
[10:26] <NickGarvey> __hase: well 1/2 that stuff is done with a few clicks in feisty
[10:26] <Flannel> __hase:
[10:26] <richardh_> here's my problem, in short words: after upgrade to edgy, CPU keeps overheating, first there were total system freezes, and after a BIOS update, no freezes, but after a while totally sluggish system and red hot CPU
[10:26] <DVS01> i just installed ubuntu. i also just downloaded a kubuntu dvd, which i presume has more packages than the ubuntu cd, since it's several gigs in size. is there a way to use this dvd as a repository for installing software?
[10:26] <Flannel> Blargh.  Sorry Halitech, he's awfully hard to nick complete
[10:26] <LordLimecat> vncviewer -listen +x11vnc -connect FTW
[10:26] <wj32> ~/.vnc/passwd is 8 bytes, which is the length of my password, but it doesnt literally contain my password
[10:26] <LordLimecat> unless you know of something easier?
[10:27] <__hase> uh, so should I get feisty instead of edgy?  I hadn't used Linux in three years when I got my own computer again, edgy seemed the way to go
[10:27] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Well don't get me wrong.. VNC was good back in its time.. But there have been other programs for windows (which I hate to say) have really surpassed vnc
[10:27] <NickGarvey> __hase: its in beta, wait a week or so if you don't want beta stuff
[10:27] <wj32> DVS01: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[10:27] <__hase> hmm
[10:27] <joshjosh> __hase, for me, edgy was a load. Wouldn't install correctly and didn't work with much anything. Dapper worked fine and Feisty works fine. Just try and see what works.
[10:27] <DVS01> thanks
[10:27] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: if they are built in, and allow easy enduser setup (ie, NO router port forwarding), id love to know about em
[10:27] <LordLimecat> or are easy to install :)
[10:27] <LordLimecat> crossplatform helps as well
[10:28] <NickGarvey> richardh_: new fan?
[10:28] <wj32> DVS01: then click on Third Party and click Add Cdrom
[10:28] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Me too (except the easy to install, I'd gladly spend 5 hours hacking on something to get it to work, if it means I get it to work)
[10:28] <cat> darn it im cold
[10:28] <LordLimecat> remote desktop is second place for me, except it only works on xp pro
[10:28] <LordLimecat> and a lot of ppl with issues have home
[10:28] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: sound like a gentoo guy to me ;)
[10:28] <wj32> vnc doesnt cache much stuff does it?
[10:28] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Debian
[10:28] <richardh_> nickgarvey: well, rather new laptop...half year...toshiba satellite a100
[10:28] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Debian sid ;)
[10:28] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: i mean easy for the end user (ie, apt-get install x11vnc
[10:29] <NickGarvey> ceil420: 4 days ahead of time there ;)
[10:29] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: True dat.. users asking a gazillion questions sucks..
[10:29] <richardh_> nickgarvey: but the thing is, it worked perfectly fine until I upgraded to edgy
[10:30] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: yep, except half the time thats me, im trying to become a linux power user and its a bumpy road (messing up xorg.conf, messing up alsa, messing up kernel, messing up compiles, etc)
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Damn, this is a tasty ass straight-from-the-freezer Captain Morgan Silver Spiced Rum and Coke Zero in a straight-from-the-freezer pint glass
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Thats HOW you become a power user!
[10:30] <ceil420> NickGarvey, lol, "Ceil" is registered with NickServ already :x
[10:30] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: I am jealous
[10:30] <LordLimecat> WHY do people taint rum with coke?
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: lol
[10:30] <eck> there is no such thing as a linux power user :-)
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Aren't you in 11th grade?
[10:30] <eck> well maybe someone who reads the man pages
[10:30] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: maybe..
[10:30] <__hase> Linux makes me feel weak and feeble
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Not that I'm knocking you one bit
[10:31] <NickGarvey> __hase: um.. as great as linux is, if it is bad for your health, I think its not right for you
[10:31] <LordLimecat> __hase: thats a bit wierd, it makes me feel powerful
[10:31] <__hase> but then I go "fix" something for my uncle or the neighbor lady on their windows system and get arbitrary praise to boost my self esteem
[10:31] <LordLimecat> it doesnt try to hide behind a gui
[10:31] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Believe me when I tell you I was quite the alcoholic (figuratively) in highschool
[10:31] <SimonFlavelle> Hmm, I can access my Windows drive in Disks Manager, but not in the File Browser itself
[10:31] <fiery_cleric> the learning curve does start to flatten out after a while
[10:31] <SimonFlavelle> That's all I've figured out XD
[10:31] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: I'm having a hell of a time getting my hands on anything though
[10:31] <NickGarvey> LordLimecat: http://www.gentoo.org/images/poster.jpg hehe
[10:32] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Got an older brother?
[10:32] <__hase> Don't get my wrong, I love Linux for what it is, it's fun it makes me use my mind
[10:32] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: nope
[10:32] <LordLimecat> lol
[10:32] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: got 1/3 of a bottle of vodka in my closet and thats it
[10:32] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Snap... I had an older brother (+4 years) he gave me his ID when he was 21
[10:32] <LordLimecat> except i came from windows, so really, no complaints
[10:32] <richardh_> Is there a way to manually turn on the fan? (by the way, fan and thermal modules are loaded)
[10:32] <nu-> is there a way to have both gnome and kde installed, and choose which one to use?
[10:33] <eck> richardh_: i'm sure there is something you can toggle in /proc if you hunt around
[10:33] <EvilDennisR> nu-: You can have both installed
[10:33] <NickGarvey> nu-: indeed, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop if you are on ubuntu
[10:33] <LordLimecat> the real kicker was a project i needed to do for importing like 10000 users into active directory from a text file...using built in windows commands was neigh impossible, and slow as hell....installed gnuwin, and used grep...viola
[10:33] <EvilDennisR> nu-: Depends on which windowmanager you wanna use
[10:33] <eck> nu-: you can choose what DE you use in gdm
[10:33] <fiery_cleric> richardh_: maybe using acpi
[10:33] <NickGarvey> LordLimecat: hah, love that
[10:33] <camer0ff> i thought this might be an interested site for those that have not seen it: http://www.100mb.nl/
[10:33] <LordLimecat> the REAL kicker, grep=100x faster than native "for"
[10:33] <Halitech> richardh_ looks like it should be fine upto 40C or 104F
[10:33] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: What kinda vodka ?
[10:33] <nu-> ok guys, slow down =D
[10:34] <richardh_> halitech: so I'm basically 40C above "fine"? nice
[10:34] <nu-> Im using gnome. say i download KDE. when would i be able to switch? at log on?
[10:34] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: smirnoff original, not ice
[10:34] <NickGarvey> nu-: yeah, under options > sessions
[10:34] <Halitech> richardh_ was that temp in C of F?
[10:34] <richardh_> halitech: C
[10:34] <nu-> ok. thanks all
[10:35] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: not a huge vodka man myself.. I'm all about the Captain. I drink just about any kinda beer..... As long as its good beer, and not urine
[10:35] <__hase> Ha! If anyone cares, I just got my toucpad to turn off!
[10:35] <nu-> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop gave me error thogh
[10:35] <fiery_cleric> LordLimecat: yeah lists in bash are slow
[10:35] <Halitech> richardh_ then yeah, you are way over
[10:35] <EvilDennisR> Damn it, I have to censor myself more than I have to do in #pidgin!
[10:35] <eck> nu-: what error?
[10:35] <richardh_> the acpi thermal zone tells me that the cooling mode is "critical"
[10:35] <__hase> Which is to say, I can now type like a normal person without having to hold my fingers up like I'm shooting over another ball in pool.
[10:35] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: yeah, I'm getting sick of vodka real fast..
[10:35] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: captain morgan all the way
[10:36] <nu-> eck: /msg nickserv identify cognut
[10:36] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Put it in the freezer
[10:36] <nu-> ooooops
[10:36] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Frozen Captain > Anything
[10:36] <nu-> : Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:36] <nu-> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[10:36] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: that would go over well with my mom
[10:36] <EvilDennisR> Don't paste in here
[10:36] <EvilDennisR> !pastebin
[10:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:36] <NickGarvey> nu-: you have something else using apt, perhaps synaptic, maybe a stalled apt-get update
[10:36] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: I had that problem.. I bought myself a minifridge and put it in my closet
[10:36] <nu-> EvilDennisR: it was less than 3 lines =] 
[10:36] <LordLimecat> whats that?  paste my .config in public IRC chat?  right away!
[10:37] <EvilDennisR> nu-: Hey man, I don't make the rules.. I just troll in here
[10:37] <nu-> NickGarvey: i don't though. I mean, i do. I installed updates and the reboot icon is in the trey
[10:37] <nu-> EvilDennisR: =] 
[10:37] <NickGarvey> nu-: close that if you can.. although it shouldn't matter, check your terminals or something, paste bin "ps aux" if you can't find it
[10:38] <vimalg2> ls
[10:38] <EvilDennisR> vimalg2: wrong window.
[10:38] <nu-> NickGarvey: im going to restart and see if it works. be back soon
[10:38] <vimalg2> oops
[10:38] <vimalg2> lol
[10:38] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: wtf do you mix your vodka with ?
[10:39] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: anything I get my hands on.. peach stuff.. mt dew.. coke..
[10:39] <Stickymaddness> Women ^_^
[10:39] <EvilDennisR> mt dew aint all that bad
[10:39] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Frozen captain + coke zero (diet pepsi)
[10:40] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Dunno if you're in the the whole diet scene.. I dont drink soda with sugar
[10:40] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: I have heard good things about diet soda and mixing
[10:40] <fiery_cleric> !vodka
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vodka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <EvilDennisR> heh...
[10:40] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: whats wrong with straight rum?
[10:41] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Yeah... You gotta like diet soda to begin with to do that though
[10:41] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Nothing at all!!
[10:41] <HYPOCRISY> Hello
[10:41] <LordLimecat> damn right
[10:41] <cyberfr0g`> hello
[10:41] <EvilDennisR> HYPOCRISY: HI!
[10:41] <NickGarvey> HYPOCRISY: hey can we help you out?
[10:41] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: You know we can't..
[10:42] <LordLimecat> oh dear lord its nearly 5am
[10:42] <LordLimecat> im gonna be late, and my boss wont even care
[10:42] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: I was just thinking the same thing..
[10:42] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: hahah!
[10:42] <LordLimecat> lol
[10:42] <owh> LordLimecat: Uh, nearly 5pm around here :)
[10:43] <LordLimecat> i sort of stroll in @ 9:30 and pray hes not there
[10:43] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: I was just thinking "Fsck it, I'm just gonna show up late, my boss won't even care"
[10:43] <LordLimecat> and if he is
[10:43] <LordLimecat> i jsut sort of pretend i was already there
[10:43] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Bwahahahahah!
[10:43] <LordLimecat> and play games, and pretend he doesnt know
[10:43] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Are you watching my life like the Truman Show ?
[10:43] <LordLimecat> and pretend i could lose my job (well, not that part)
[10:43] <LordLimecat> but he wont fire me cause im his pc tech :D
[10:43] <DVS01> man that kernel link i got before is pretty weird.. im used to doing make menuconfig, etc
[10:43] <LordLimecat> on call tech support :D
[10:44] <LordLimecat> and the financial officer plays WoW with me :D
[10:44] <LordLimecat> greatest job evar
[10:44] <owh> DVS01: You do know that there is a Ubuntu/Debian way to make a kernel don't you?
[10:44] <DVS01> i guess i have to do all this stuff at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild because it's a package-based method..
[10:44] <LordLimecat> yea, ive been there
[10:44] <LordLimecat> error!
[10:44] <DVS01> owh: yeah, reading up on it
[10:44] <LordLimecat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15943/
[10:44] <fiery_cleric> DVS01: u dont HAVE to but its better once u do it that way... easy to change kernels
[10:44] <LordLimecat> compiles, gets to the end part, and throws a fit.  no go, have to recompile
[10:45] <DVS01> ah
[10:45] <owh> DVS01: You do. That's the best way. It allows you to un-install it, upgrade it, etc.
[10:45] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Damn... Are you living my life too like NickGarvey ?
[10:45] <DVS01> owh: well that makes sense
[10:45] <EvilDennisR> except I don' tplay wow
[10:45] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: its probably due to one of the 80000 modules i removed
[10:45] <LordLimecat> a little knowledge is dangerous :D
[10:45] <foug> I turned the menu bar off on my terminal, how do i get it back
[10:45] <DVS01> owh: will this method allow me to get the latest stable kernel?
[10:45] <owh> DVS01: I do need to ask, what is it that requires you to compile a kernel?
[10:46] <DVS01> owh: i'm just used to doing it.. remove unneeded things, set the desired settings, etc
[10:46] <fiery_cleric> DVS01: its cool that way coz u get .deb at the end with your own kernel in it
[10:46] <owh> DVS01: Well, yes and no.
[10:46] <owh> DVS01: Lemmie see if I can explain without writing a novel.
[10:46] <LordLimecat> fiery_cleric: that was my exact thought process :D
[10:47] <DVS01> ok
[10:47] <SimonFlavelle> Can anyone here still help me? I can access my Windows drive in Disks Manager, but not in the File Browser itself. Is it possible there's an 'admin' account I don't know about?
[10:47] <EvilDennisR> damn
[10:47] <EvilDennisR> what was the bot command?
[10:47] <owh> DVS01: If you use the method shown in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild, you will get the latest Ubuntu kernel. That's not the same as the latest kernel.org kernel.
[10:47] <EvilDennisR> !ask
[10:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:47] <owh> DVS01: In addition to that...
[10:47] <foug> I turned the menu bar off on my terminal, how do i get it back
[10:48] <EvilDennisR> foug: right click that shit?
[10:48] <owh> DVS01: You should understand that the Ubuntu kernel is patched by Ubuntu, just like the Debian kernel, the SuSE and the RedHat kernels are.
[10:48] <foug> EvilDennisR: ya i got the shit, lol
[10:48] <Suurorca> vanilla kernel should work just fine on most cases, though =p
[10:49] <owh> DVS01: So, if you want to tweak stuff, but you also want to control what is a module and what is compiled, then follow those instructions. Then modify the .config file by running your flavour of make config.
[10:49] <EvilDennisR> damn, kernels have *real* flavour names now? Sheeeet...
[10:49] <Suurorca> but not nessesarily with the ubuntu default configs
[10:49] <owh> DVS01: That way you'll have the Ubuntu kernel, with your tweaked "optimisations".
[10:49] <DVS01> hehe "optimisations"
[10:49] <owh> DVS01: But I should ask, what is it that you need that you don't have that is going to change by compiling your own kernel.
[10:49] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: neopolitan?
[10:50] <owh> DVS01: Because you always did it that way isn't good enough :)
[10:50] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: No, I live in Mass, USA
[10:50] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: ;)
[10:50] <owh> DVS01: If you continued to do things the way you always did it, you would never have installed Ubuntu in the first place :)
[10:50] <LordLimecat> -_-
[10:51] <LordLimecat> :D
[10:51] <EvilDennisR> shit, I'm out of drink again..
[10:51] <SimonFlavelle> Can anyone here still help me? I can access my Windows drive in Disks Manager, but not in the File Browser itself. Is it possible there's an 'admin' account I don't know about?
[10:51] <kanpachi> hello, i'm using dapper, and i'm getting an error on some repos :(
[10:51] <disposable> how long will feisty be supported? (i've checked faq)
[10:51] <DVS01> owh: i guess the main reason is that i want to be more familiar with it, and as a side reason, just to tidy up and remove unneeded features.
[10:51] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: im sure theres a protocol for that
[10:51] <kanpachi> Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release
[10:51] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: I don't know what you were asking me..
[10:51] <kanpachi> can someone help please?
[10:51] <LordLimecat> *looks for coffee protocol* and i was referring to kernel flavors :D
[10:52] <EvilDennisR> kanpachi: someone can
[10:52] <kanpachi> yes please
[10:52] <EvilDennisR> kanpachi: We won't know until you ask your question..
[10:52] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Oh... Right on
[10:52] <kanpachi> well i keep getting these Err http://archive.canonical.com dapper-commercial Release
[10:52] <ce_maniez> heLLowwwwwwwww.......
[10:52] <kanpachi> and these Err http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com dapper Release
[10:52] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: *shrugs* I haven't compiled my own kernel in years.. Who cares! use a package kernel! Whatevah! I do what I want!
[10:52] <owh> DVS01: Well, the familiarity thing is valid enough, but the features you may want to remove might cause grief in other places, because the source is heavily patched. As Suurorca pointed out, you can use a similar procedure to compile a stock kernel. Do a google for debian kernel howto.
[10:52] <kanpachi> and most importantly these Err http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com dapper Release
[10:53] <kanpachi> those are the only 3 errors i get on my sources.list
[10:53] <kanpachi> and i can't seem to find what's causing it
[10:53] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Shit... I need *another* drink.. Should I get one, or just pass out.. I don't have to wake up for another 3 hours
[10:53] <kanpachi> since there are a lot of duplicate lines there
[10:53] <LordLimecat> kanpachi: yer getting a duplicate sources error?
[10:53] <owh> SimonFlavelle: What is the "Disks Manager" you're taking about?
[10:53] <kanpachi> no
[10:53] <kanpachi> i just get an error
[10:53] <DVS01> owh: will installing/updating nvidia drivers involve recompiling the kernel?
[10:53] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: 3 hours will sneak up on you pretty fast if you keep on pounding em..
[10:54] <AshyIsMe> what package is makeinfo a part of in dapper?
[10:54] <owh> DVS01: Not that I recall, but there are extensive howto's on the subject.
[10:54] <DVS01> yeah
[10:54] <kanpachi> maybe i should paste my sources.list in pastebin and someone could take a look at it please?
[10:54] <LordLimecat> NickGarvey: drinks, or kernel compiles?
[10:54] <owh> DVS01: Specific to Ubuntu I should add.
[10:54] <NickGarvey> LordLimecat: both I guess hah
[10:54] <DVS01> yup
[10:54] <SimonFlavelle> owh: The one in System>Administration>Disks, I can see the folders and files in my drive, in the "Access Path" prompt, but I can't actually go into the drive itself in the File Browser
[10:54] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Hm....
[10:54] <LordLimecat> and try 12 hours -_-
[10:54] <DVS01> owh: i noticed a large support element with ubuntu
[10:54] <LordLimecat> 3pm i start looking thru menuconfig -_-
[10:55] <DVS01> and holy shit.. my touchpad thing on the laptop works
[10:55] <DVS01> wow
[10:55] <LordLimecat> 12 hours later.......
[10:55] <DVS01> the volume control
[10:55] <owh> DVS01: That's why we're here :)
[10:55] <fiery_cleric> AshyIsMe: go to packages.ubuntu.com  and look there... there is also an apt command but i dont know it
[10:55] <owh> SimonFlavelle: Uhm, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[10:55] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: You may be correct...
[10:55] <owh> fiery_cleric: An apt command for what?
[10:55] <tex__> hi i'm a windows user and i'd like to install Ubuntu 7.04 when it's released
[10:55] <DVS01> ok theres a problem now.. i have a mute button that is lit up on my laptop.. its blue when not muted, red when muted (in windows with driver).. but in ubuntu it doesnt turn red when muted.. :/
[10:55] <tex__> i'm planning the needed partitions for a dual boot install
[10:55] <LordLimecat> tex__: go for it :D
[10:55] <DVS01> im actually very glad to have this problem :)
[10:56] <SimonFlavelle> Err, 6.06 LTS
[10:56] <LordLimecat> ubuntu can resize windows partitions :D
[10:56] <DVS01> it means the thing at least works
[10:56] <owh> tex__: Visit the download page, download the .ISO, burn a CD, boot, install :)
[10:56] <LordLimecat> 'so no worries about that
[10:56] <tex__> i need a shared partition between win and ubuntu
[10:56] <owh> SimonFlavelle: Hmm, I'm running Edgy and I don't have that menu.
[10:56] <fiery_cleric> owh: AshyIsMe wants to know how to find what package a certain file is in
[10:56] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: I have already drank a pint of captain..
[10:56] <tex__> do i have to use fat32?
[10:56] <owh> fiery_cleric: dpkg -S filename
[10:56] <LordLimecat> tex__: there IS write support for ntfs, and AFAIK its pretty stable
[10:56] <EvilDennisR> tex__: Yo
[10:57] <owh> AshyIsMe: The command is dpkg -S filename
[10:57] <rob07> !fixres
[10:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:57] <EvilDennisR> tex__: Grab the new 7.04 iso when it comes out
[10:57] <AshyIsMe> fiery_cleric, thanks
[10:57] <LordLimecat> AFAIK the warnings are just because there COULD be dataloss, but i dont think its common?  (anyone want to comment?)
[10:57] <mjr> tex__, in addition to what lordlimecat said, there's also ext2 support for Windows, and that's probably more stable
[10:57] <owh> !nvideo
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvideo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <owh> !nvidia
[10:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <kanpachi> hello i have a problem with my sources.list on dapper, can someone help please?
[10:57] <owh> Doh
[10:57] <tex__> a friend told me that ubuntu 7.04 will have preinstalled ntfs drivers
[10:57] <LordLimecat> mjr: i had BAD luck with that driver
[10:57] <EvilDennisR> tex__: The install will automagically regognize your windows partition, and put that partition in the grub boot screen
[10:57] <LordLimecat> mjr: slowness, etc
[10:57] <owh> DVS01: That's for you!
[10:57] <nu-> what is the kde desktop package called again?
[10:57] <NickGarvey> nu-: kubuntu-desktop
[10:57] <LordLimecat> nu-: kde-core
[10:57] <AshyIsMe> hmm, makeinfo not found
[10:58] <nu-> both?
[10:58] <DVS01> thanks
[10:58] <NickGarvey> nu-: mines better
[10:58] <NickGarvey> nu-: (obviously)
[10:58] <LordLimecat> lol, ow
[10:58] <nu-> alrighty
[10:58] <NickGarvey> LordLimecat: :)
[10:58] <nu-> thanks
[10:58] <LordLimecat> my pride :9
[10:58] <SimonFlavelle> EvilDennisR: Would it need to be on a different partition on the same drive for the windows recognising to work?
[10:58] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: it shouldn't ubuntu is smart enough to probe around (should be at least :))
[10:59] <EvilDennisR> SimonFlavelle: the install program should ask you, and let you resize that windows partition so you can install ubuntu on the *other* partition that you make
[10:59] <owh> tex__: To share some space you can use FAT32, writing support for NTFS is poor. Also you can install vmwareplayer and run windows from within Ubuntu and share data across the virtual network :)
[10:59] <SimonFlavelle> Hmm, Maybe I can try and move Ubuntu onto my big drive, see if it recognises windows then :)
[10:59] <nu-> also, whats the command for registering my name in irc?
[10:59] <owh> tex__: And to boot you won't need to dual boot either ;-)
[10:59] <LordLimecat> a little note on that, it CANNOT resize if the disk is marked as "dirty"--ie, you did an unclean shutdown...it will instead offer to use the whole disk for ubuntu, formatting it ALL
[10:59] <EvilDennisR> SimonFlavelle: So for example you have 100G windowz partition, you can resize that to 50G, and then install ubuntu on the other 50G
[10:59] <enyc> nu-:  /msg nickserv register
[10:59] <NickGarvey> nu-: /msg nickserv help register
[11:00] <nu-> Thanks guys
[11:00] <enyc> nu-: it sohuld point you in the right direction...
[11:00] <tex__> can i run photoshop cs3 beta from ubuntu?
[11:00] <DVS01> owh: check this out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM ...you see those icons at the top of the person's screen? they look sorta like macosx's... how do i get an interface like that?
[11:00] <LordLimecat> make SURE you shutdown properly before trying to install ubuntu
[11:00] <ce_maniez> hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[11:00] <DVS01> or is that a feature of beryl itself
[11:00] <SimonFlavelle> Alright then, I'll see if I can do that
[11:00] <enyc> tex__: no idea... you might be able to with osme kind of wine..  otherwise you need a Virtual machine  with vmware or qemu
[11:00] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat is correct...
[11:00] <LordLimecat> ask how lordlimecat knows
[11:00] <EvilDennisR> I had an issue with resizing my windowz XP partition because I didn't shut down correctly
[11:00] <owh> SimonFlavelle: The partition you're trying to see, what format is it?
[11:00] <LordLimecat> :D
[11:01] <enyc> EvilDennisR: makes sense.. .will not resize dirty filesystem
[11:01] <LordLimecat> also, dont do a hard shutdown during ubuntu install
[11:01] <LordLimecat> its a bad ide
[11:01] <LordLimecat> idea
[11:01] <EvilDennisR> Correct.
[11:01] <LordLimecat> :(
[11:01] <tex__> someone among you is an expert about font issues?
[11:01] <LordLimecat> itll bork yer bootloader
[11:01] <tex__> i have many commercial fonts for windows in OpenType format
[11:01] <owh> DVS01: That looks like a normal task bar that's set to not use the whole screen and made transparent. I suspect that there is some or other funky theme installed as well.
[11:02] <nu> i forgot the password i registered with
[11:02] <DVS01> ah
[11:02] <tex__> I know that OpenType (truetype flavor) works in ubuntu
[11:02] <owh> DVS01: I have to say that the UI shown in that video does my head in :)
[11:02] <DVS01> hehe
[11:02] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Theres way too many people in here man.. I look away for a minute and I have no idea wtf just went on
[11:02] <tex__> but OpenType (type 1 flavor) does not work
[11:02] <DVS01> have you used beryl before, owh?
[11:02] <tex__> Right?
[11:03] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: haha yup
[11:03] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: this isn't even close to peak either
[11:03] <owh> enyc: Hmm, a dirty file system in Windows isn't the same as a dirty file system under Linux :)
[11:03] <nu> Ok i installed. So now i'll have the option to choose KDE at boot? that's neat
[11:03] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: be in here the 19th :)
[11:03] <LordLimecat> note to all, never set the dirty bit on a flash drive from windows using fsutil
[11:03] <LordLimecat> you will regret it forever
[11:04] <dc> does anyone know how to stream a windows users' shared itunes music on ubuntu edgy?
[11:04] <fiery_cleric> tex__: ummm... try copying them into your ~/.fonts folder ... no work?
[11:04] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: That when feisty comes out ?
[11:04] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: yup
[11:04] <tex__> i'm on win at the moment
[11:04] <LordLimecat> dc: is your goal to listen to the music from edgy, or actually have the files one dgy
[11:04] <tex__> i will install 7.04 as a first try
[11:04] <dc> LordLimecat: listen to the music, but the latter would be just as good if not better
[11:05] <cat> does gpm exist in ubuntu?
[11:05] <LordLimecat> dc: for streaming songs on windows, VLC (advanced) or vibestreamer (easy)
[11:05] <dc> LordLimecat: ok let me try that thank you
[11:05] <LordLimecat> for moving the files, if its ont he same system, you should be able to mount the windows drive and read the files..../
[11:05] <DVS01> actually.. dc.. about your music listening...
[11:05] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: I'm sure I'll still be idle in here on that day
[11:05] <dc> LordLimecat: no its not the same comp
[11:05] <LordLimecat> if its networked, set up a windows share, and use ubuntu's connect to server to read the share and copy the files
[11:05] <dc> DVS01: yo
[11:05] <DVS01> i found that streaming music is a very annoying way to listen to music remotely
[11:06] <LordLimecat> DVS01: check out vibestreamer
[11:06] <DVS01> my solution to it is sftpdrive.. it creates a drive letter in windows thats actually an sftp/ssh link
[11:06] <LordLimecat> its pretty damn cool, uses a flash player
[11:06] <dc> DVS01: im on a college campus and when im wireless i dont have any music
[11:06] <LordLimecat> its like gnump3d, but with a built in player
[11:06] <DVS01> so you can access your remote files via scp/sftp
[11:06] <LordLimecat> and of course, VLC multicast FTW!
[11:06] <DVS01> true
[11:06] <cat> does gpm exist in ubuntu?
[11:07] <DVS01> vibestreamer sounds like a cool idea
[11:07] <LordLimecat> it is
[11:07] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: WTF do you live? Must be on the east coast if you're still awake lik eme
[11:07] <dc> LordLimecat: is vibestreamer windows only?
[11:07] <DVS01> it would end up being a matter of taste
[11:07] <fiery_cleric> cat: the mouse thing... yeah
[11:07] <LordLimecat> i imagine it would work in wine
[11:07] <dc> LordLimecat: oh ok
[11:07] <LordLimecat> its only issue....
[11:07] <LordLimecat> it REQUIRES usernames/passwords
[11:07] <LordLimecat> no anonymous connects
[11:07] <cat> fiery_cleric: what's the package called?
[11:07] <cat> because im not seeying gpm with apt.
[11:07] <DVS01> dc.. are you trying to play music on a linux or windows box?
[11:07] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: yeah, NY
[11:07] <fiery_cleric> !gpm
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <EvilDennisR> 5:08... Jesus, I should be asleep...
[11:08] <NickGarvey> !info gpm | fiery_cleric
[11:08] <cat> dido
[11:08] <DVS01> NY here too
[11:08] <ubotu> fiery_cleric: gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-22ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 500 kB
[11:08] <dc> DVS01: linux
[11:08] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Well if you ever want to drive 3/4 hours to Mass, I can buy you booze no problem!
[11:08] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: bright side, the later you stay up, the more tired you get, and the faster you sleep
[11:08] <cat> i do not see the gpm package though
[11:08] <LordLimecat> really, youre saving time
[11:08] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: hah, I'll keep that in mind
[11:08] <cat> with apt-cache search gpm
[11:08] <DVS01> dc: and the remote machine that has the music running what?
[11:08] <ce_maniez> #semarang
[11:08] <NickGarvey> cat: enable universe
[11:08] <cat> i only see some libraries. from the program though
[11:09] <EvilDennisR> thats three to four hours, not three fourths hours
[11:09] <cat> NickGarvey: how?
[11:09] <NickGarvey> !repos | cat
[11:09] <ubotu> cat: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:09] <ce_maniez> #semarang
[11:09] <cat> darn it i hate text based
[11:09] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: You are correct... I still have to wake up in 3 hours to be to work at 9 though..
[11:09] <EvilDennisR> well
[11:10] <EvilDennisR> thats not true
[11:10] <dc> LordLimecat: i got an error
[11:10] <LordLimecat> but how long is spent GOING to sleep?
[11:10] <LordLimecat> :D
[11:10] <dc> LordLimecat: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.
[11:10] <fiery_cleric> cat: gpm is for text based mouse functionality
[11:10] <NickGarvey> cat: what do you want gpm for hah
[11:10] <LordLimecat> o.0 i did that? :(
[11:10] <EvilDennisR> I'm gonna wake UP at 8, prolly lay in bed until about 8:15/30, wake up, take a shower, and get to work around 9:30/9:45
[11:10] <cat> right
[11:10] <dc> DVS01: windows/itunes
[11:10] <cat> is because i want to pasted an error fiery_cleric
[11:10] <fiery_cleric> cat: for virtual consoles
[11:10] <dc> LordLimecat: prob. not
[11:10] <LordLimecat> oh wait
[11:10] <LordLimecat> nono
[11:10] <cat> because i do not have any terminals
[11:11] <LordLimecat> if you just want to stream....ie, the file doesnt really move to ubuntu...
[11:11] <LordLimecat> then VLC is pretty much the most direct way
[11:11] <cat> can anyone of you give me an universe source so i can added it to my source list please
[11:11] <dc> LordLimecat: o ok
[11:11] <LordLimecat> have VLC running on both
[11:11] <LordLimecat> and set up a UDP or multicast stream (udp is easier)....
[11:11] <dc> LordLimecat: the other computer(s) only have itunes
[11:11] <LordLimecat> install VLC'
[11:11] <DVS01> dc: check out LordLimecat's suggestion, http://www.vibestreamer.com/
[11:11] <dc> LordLimecat: i want to stream the music that is on other peoples itunes
[11:11] <dc> DVS01: i already did thanks
[11:12] <dc> DVS01: it doesnt run with wine
[11:12] <LordLimecat> dc: vlc can handle pretty much any multimedia task
[11:12] <LordLimecat> dc: vlc is native for ubuntu
[11:12] <DVS01> dc: the front page has an announcement saying it works with wine
[11:12] <DVS01> dc: "Vibe Streamer runs on Linux/Ubuntu using Wine"
[11:12] <LordLimecat> DVS01: it DOES????
[11:12] <LordLimecat> o.0
[11:12] <DVS01> hehe yea
[11:12] <DVS01> hahaha
[11:12] <dc> LordLimecat: the issue isnt with me, i dont have access to the computers with itunes on them
[11:12] <EvilDennisR> alright, I gotta go to sleep...
[11:12] <dc> DVS01: it just doesnt work it throws this error: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.
[11:13] <CraZy675> what are the short cut keys to change desktops?
[11:13] <cat> if is not too much to asked, because i'm stock with some stuff
[11:13] <cat> can anyone of you give me an universe source so i can added it to my source list please
[11:13] <EvilDennisR> well that is, lay in bed for another 30 minutes, and get like 2 hours of sleep..
[11:13] <LordLimecat> dc: trust me, VLC will be able to access them
[11:13] <LordLimecat> possibly
[11:13] <DVS01> doh
[11:13] <cat> because my source list sucks,
[11:13] <LordLimecat> if you can access em from windows...you can access em with VLC
[11:13] <DVS01> dunno about that
[11:13] <EvilDennisR> I did drink a pint of captains after all...
[11:13] <cat> im having an error thought that apt-get -f install is giving me
[11:13] <sebari> hello all
[11:13] <dc> LordLimecat: how would it interface?
[11:13] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: it was captain and coke tho...
[11:13] <LordLimecat> VLC is pretty seamless.....
[11:14] <TMH_> hi. I'm using Ubuntu Fiesty and I've compiled my own kernel, but I have to make a ubuntu-style initrd for it. I'm hoping there's some sort of really convenient script I can run to just generate one that I can stick in /boot
[11:14] <LordLimecat> takes a LITTLE know how
[11:14] <LordLimecat> what comp are you trying to access
[11:14] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Captain Morgan *Silver* and Coke Zero
[11:14] <LordLimecat> itunes
[11:14] <LordLimecat> coke ZERO?
[11:14] <LordLimecat> bah
[11:14] <dc> LordLimecat: itunes
[11:14] <EvilDennisR> Yeah man!
[11:14] <LordLimecat> that totally...denatures...it
[11:14] <zelexus> hehe
[11:14] <LordLimecat> its like anti-alcohol
[11:14] <EvilDennisR> I don't drink soda with sugar in it
[11:14] <dc> LordLimecat: i dont know the computer name dude
[11:14] <EvilDennisR> its gross..
[11:14] <LordLimecat> you ruined it
[11:14] <LordLimecat> fail
[11:14] <cat> it says this trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin which is also in package rdesktop Errors were encounted while processing
[11:14] <EvilDennisR> anti alcogol?
[11:14] <cat> bla bla any ideas?
[11:14] <LordLimecat> dc: how would you access it from windows
[11:14] <EvilDennisR> wtf?
[11:15] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: yea, like koolaid
[11:15] <EvilDennisR> a/alcogol/alcohol/
[11:15] <dc> LordLimecat: i wouldnt.  if you read its not my computer im streaming it from
[11:15] <EvilDennisR> koolaid has sugar in it though
[11:15] <LordLimecat> dc: i need to know what computer its coming from, you need a host or ip
[11:15] <cat> can someone help me?
[11:15] <LordLimecat> o.0
[11:15] <dc> LordLimecat: well then thats not the aproach i would like to take
[11:15] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Captain SILVER with coke zero > Captain Regular Coke
[11:16] <LordLimecat> dc: im a bit confused
[11:16] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Had Captain Silver before ?
[11:16] <DVS01> crap
[11:16] <fiery_cleric> !repos
[11:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:16] <LordLimecat> evildennisr: no o.0
[11:16] <DVS01> critical error during ped_disk_duplicate with qtparted while installing kubuntu
[11:16] <dc> LordLimecat: have you seen itunes before? there is a seperate thing to the left that says streaming music:  then lists all of these playlists people want to stream,
[11:16] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: You realize you're keeping me from sleeping by telling you about the benefits of captain siler
[11:16] <cat> !easysource universe
[11:16] <LordLimecat> evildennisr: you realize my needing to respond is keeping me up?
[11:16] <cat> i need at least one source and that's it
[11:17] <LordLimecat> blaming you makes it easier to justify my irresponsibility...
[11:17] <dc> cat: what do you need?
[11:17] <LordLimecat> dc: right....so someone remotely...on a computer you cant accss is streaming music, correct?
[11:17] <dc> LordLimecat: yes
[11:17] <wowow> quick heads up to noobs trying feisty via beta cd
[11:17] <wowow> you might run into a fontconfig problem
[11:18] <billy> is there a terminal command that will allow a file to be opened with the correct program?
[11:18] <wowow> and when you log in you panel and lots of other apps will be slow and eat cpu cycles
[11:18] <wowow> here is the fix
[11:18] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: http://www.internetwines.com/mb140224.html (Best I could find for silver)
[11:18] <LordLimecat> now, to connect to that stream, you need to know its address
[11:18] <wowow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2401087&postcount=4
[11:18] <wowow> hope it helps someone
[11:18] <fiery_cleric> billy: gnome-open ?
[11:18] <LordLimecat> why did i think of Wine is not an emulator when i saw that link?
[11:18] <dc> LordLimecat: not in itunes in windows...
[11:19] <billy> thanks fiery_cleric
[11:19] <dc> LordLimecat: yo wine throws me this error do you know? Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.
[11:19] <LordLimecat> dc: ill have to check it out, but somehow that address is getting to you
[11:19] <dc> LordLimecat: because itunes searches for them and grabs all the addresses of the users that are sharing
[11:19] <cat> darn it
[11:19] <LordLimecat> dc: no, i dont :( until ive actually experienced a problem, i dont lknow how to fix it :(
[11:19] <LordLimecat> try #winehq
[11:19] <dc> k
[11:19] <dac> cat,hi
[11:19] <LordLimecat> but i suspect a google would find the solution
[11:19] <cat> hi dac
[11:19] <cat> it says this trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin which is also in package rdesktop Errors were encounted while processing
[11:20] <LordLimecat> AAAH! its 5:20!
[11:20] <cat> any one knows why is this happening?
[11:20] <cat> i cannot installed the X11-package
[11:20] <LordLimecat> evildennisr: GO TO BED!
[11:20] <LordLimecat> im goin to :D
[11:20] <dac> i didn't know i had voice
[11:20] <modology> hi everyone
[11:20] <cat> is this currently a bug?
[11:20] <cat> perhaps?
[11:20] <DVS01> im gonna have a pretty interesting project.. installing linux for a windows user
[11:20] <DVS01> hes got a p3 1.2ghz, like half a gig of ram, and a 300gb hdd
[11:21] <dac> hi modology
[11:21] <modology> Does anyone know how to use LS command to SORT content in one TXT file in the Following order: 1. The Content will sorted depend on the Length of Strings. I want to sort it from Short to Long.
[11:21] <cat> i hate unmet depencencies
[11:22] <NickGarvey> DVS01: not bad
[11:22] <NickGarvey> cat: don't we all, <3 apt
[11:22] <cat> NickGarvey: i cannot fixed the issued?
[11:22] <cat> can you please help me NickGarvey
[11:22] <NickGarvey> cat: maybe.. I have an essay that needs to be done in an hour and a half though
[11:22] <cat> it says this trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin which is also in package rdesktop Errors were encounted while processing
[11:23] <DVS01> NickGarvey: i figure he's better off with linux. all he really cares about is movies, tv shows, emulation, and flash editing. theres emulators for linux, so he'll be fine
[11:23] <cat> that's the error is giving me NickGarvey
[11:23] <DVS01> only thing im not sure about is the flash editing
[11:23] <LordLimecat> test
[11:23] <LordLimecat> -_-
[11:23] <fiery_cleric> modology: probably perl is your best answer
[11:23] <DVS01> he can probably wine it
[11:23] <NickGarvey> DVS01: macromedia..
[11:23] <NickGarvey> cat: I don't really.. understand what is happening
[11:23] <sebari> hello there how can i find out what kind of card i am using ?
[11:23] <LordLimecat[slee> >_<
[11:23] <NickGarvey> sebari: "card"?
[11:24] <Figs> modology -- I don't understand your question? why LS?
[11:24] <modology> Sorry but I have no Programming background, so PERL is not a good solution for me
[11:24] <waster> Please can anyone tell me how to use ALT + numeric keypad to enter hex unicode directly?
[11:24] <sebari> yeah i am tying to instal the beryl
[11:24] <NickGarvey> !beryl | sebari
[11:24] <ubotu> sebari: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:24] <modology> I just want to List the Content in one file in order that Short String come first then long string come after. Then output it into new txt file
[11:24] <MK_Mike> Hey, i have a problem somtimes e.g. most time i reboot my pc there is no sound what so ever what ever i do e.g. reinstalling sound system, etc. i can't get it to work but ever now and again the sound works! any ideas how to fix this problem
[11:25] <DVS01> dude thats nuts
[11:25] <DVS01> these ubuntu irc channels rock
[11:25] <ceil420> is it possible to kill something by process name?
[11:25] <NickGarvey> ceil420: "killall processname"
[11:25] <ceil420> thx o/
[11:25] <kernando> hello if i have windows ics enabled and im tryin to connect in ubuntu with wireless how can i set the network authentication to shared??
[11:25] <DVS01> with a possible -9 after the killall
[11:25] <cat> NickGarvey: Unpacking x11-common (from .../x11-common_1%3a7.2-0ubuntu11_i386.deb dpkg error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.2-0ubuntu11_i386.deb
[11:25] <fiery_cleric> modology: um do want to list a file or a directory
[11:25] <modology> It;s a TXT file
[11:25] <NickGarvey> cat: apt-get clean, then try again maybe
[11:25] <modology> that I have
[11:26] <OpenTokix> apt-get don't like full partitions =)
[11:26] <cat> same error NickGarvey
[11:26] <|sMiLe[-v-] deaTH> haLoo
[11:26] <ceil420> hmm... the font in that Alt+F2 window didn't change along with the rest of my theme ><
[11:26] <waster> any ideas on entering unicode characters without using GUI?
[11:26] <NickGarvey> cat: I'm not sure
[11:27] <ceil420> firefox is using a third font o_O
[11:27] <NickGarvey> cat: do you have any more info you can te/ll me to help debug?
[11:27] <ceil420> weird
[11:27] <DVS01> is there a way to make vnc server attach to an existing X session?
[11:27] <cat> NickGarvey: hmmm
[11:27] <DVS01> or start up with the default one that starts upon boot
[11:27] <ceil420> and annoying, cos while the Alt+F2 font is ugly, the firefox font is almost unreadable ;x
[11:28] <cat> it says here trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin which is also in package rdesktop
[11:28] <derek[] > How to make the change of xset command permanent in Ubuntu? (there doesn't seem to be any ~/.xinitrc file)
[11:28] <cat> NickGarvey: that's the last error that apt-get -f install throw me.
[11:28] <modology> fiery_cleric: I want to list content in one file
[11:28] <Figs> modology -- Perl is almost certainly your best bet, let me see if I can find a way to do it quickly
[11:28] <variant> derek[] : you can make the .xinitrc file
[11:28] <waster> openoffice help talks about dead keys but these don't exist on my keyboard. unicode with keystrokes, anyone?
[11:29] <Figs> modology - do you have perl installed?
[11:29] <Figs> (silly question, probably)
[11:29] <fiery_cleric> modology: so u want to take a file and display it from shortest line to longest line?
[11:29] <regress> It seems the "mail" command is not installe by default on ubuntu - can I apt-get it?
[11:29] <regress> sudo apt-get install mail fails, of course :)
[11:29] <modology> fiery_cleric: yes
[11:30] <modology> fiery_cleric: shortest string length then longest string length
[11:30] <Figs> I know how to do it in C++, but I doubt you really want a whole app for something like that
[11:30] <MK_Mike> Hey, i have a problem somtimes e.g. most time i reboot my pc there is no sound what so ever what ever i do e.g. reinstalling sound system, etc. i can't get it to work but ever now and again the sound works! any ideas how to fix this problem
[11:30] <modology> Figs: I could barely use GCC so it would be a problem
[11:31] <Figs> even if I give you the code?
[11:31] <modology> Figs: if you can show me how to compile
[11:32] <regress> ah, seems I should apt-get mailx
[11:32] <Figs> I'm not so familiar with calling gcc directly, but I'll see what I can do
[11:32] <regress> intuitive :/
[11:32] <Figs> gimme about 10 minutes and I'll see what I can do
[11:32] <modology> Figs: let me know wat compiler that I need to install
[11:32] <Figs> someone else may be faster though :P
[11:32] <derek[] > variant, there is a /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[11:32] <CNTRLX> Do any of you know about GDI+ lib with delphi?
[11:32] <variant> derek[] : thast the system wide default
[11:32] <Figs> I don't usually C++ on *nix
[11:32] <variant> derek[] : you can edit that for all users
[11:33] <Figs> so... :P
[11:33] <VSpike> CNTRLX: aren't you in the wrong place for that? :)
[11:33] <Figs> lol
[11:33] <derek[] > variant, if I create a ~/.xinitrc , will it override the system-wide xinitrc? (what will happen to the commands written in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ?)
[11:33] <modology> Figs: how about PERL compiler then?
[11:33] <Figs> I don't know perl :P
[11:33] <fiery_cleric> modology: do kill blame me if this formats your HDD and fries your cpu but .... IFS=$'\n' ; for name in `cat /etc/hosts` ; do echo `echo $name |wc -c` $name; done | sort -g | sed 's/^[^ ] * //' ;unset $IFS
[11:33] <Figs> but I know it's great for what you want to do
[11:33] <fiery_cleric> modology: s/do/dont/
[11:33] <CNTRLX> well i was just hoping about resources
[11:34] <DVS01> is there a way to get the start menu to be triggered by the start button in KDE?
[11:34] <modology> fiery_cleric: I will give it atry now
[11:34] <fiery_cleric> modology: where /etc/hosts is the name of your file
[11:35] <modology> fiery_cleriic: if my file name is SORT.txt, then what should it be?
[11:36] <NickGarvey> fiery_cleric: +1
[11:36] <fiery_cleric> modology: IFS=$'\n' ; for name in `SORT.txt` ; do echo `echo $name |wc -c` $name; done | sort -g | sed 's/^[^ ] * //' ;unset $IFS
[11:37] <ceil420> http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9592/weirdfontdm8.png <=- can someone help get my fonts sorted in Xubuntu Edgy? :(
[11:37] <ceil420> xchat userlist = what it should be
[11:37] <fiery_cleric> modology: IFS=$'\n' ; for name in `cat SORT.txt` ; do echo `echo $name |wc -c` $name; done | sort -g | sed 's/^[^ ] * //' ;unset $IFS
[11:37] <ceil420> as you can see, that firefox font is annoying :x and the Alt+F2 thing isn't much better
[11:37] <ceil420> i just tried setting the font again, even with the alt+f2 thing open; no change
[11:38] <Betzefer> any 1 needs help
[11:38] <Betzefer> ?
[11:38] <ceil420> i do :x
[11:38] <Aaronfromchina> Yes!
 http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9592/weirdfontdm8.png <=- can someone help get my fonts sorted in Xubuntu Edgy? :(
[11:38] <DVS01> am i going to run into problems following ubuntu's howtos if using kubuntu? for example, i am aiming to install beryl, and am using ubuntu's howtos
[11:38] <kanzie> Has there been any new releases for the kernel on Feasty Fawn since thursday? The kernel that was installed then was corrupted and now trying to update is says that kernel-image was "held back"
[11:38] <DVS01> ceil420 whoa that's pretty messed up lol
[11:39] <ceil420> DVS01, i know ><
[11:39] <kanzie> ah, now I got them
[11:39] <DVS01> how the hell did that happen
[11:39] <ceil420> i have no idea -_-
[11:39] <dooglus> regress: install 'mailx'
[11:39] <modology> fiery_cleric: how can I output the the Result into a new txt file called NEW.txt?
[11:39] <ceil420> i don't even remember even TRYING that font that firefox is using
[11:39] <ceil420> -even
[11:39] <regress> dooglus: doesn't seem to be in the repos
[11:40] <regress> "Package mailx is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[11:40] <nu-> Ok guys. i installed KDE. but now all KDE programs show up on my gnome menu bar. is that normal?
[11:40] <dooglus> !info mailx
[11:40] <ubotu> mailx: A simple mail user agent. In component main, is optional. Version 1:8.1.2-0.20050715cvs-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 288 kB
[11:40] <regress> at least I knew I wasn't crazy for trying to install mailx :)
[11:40] <dooglus> regress: it is
[11:40] <fiery_cleric> modology: add  "> NEW.txt" before the last ";"
[11:40] <regress> hmm, guess my source list is messed up then
[11:40] <ceil420> is that a no? :x
[11:40] <lush> yes its normal
[11:40] <regress> owell, I don't need it so badly, just would have been nice
[11:41] <kanzie> is there any special channel for Feasty Fawn-users?
[11:41] <Aaronfromchina> can someone help me to display flash on Firefox?
[11:41] <ceil420> there should be a green puzzle piece where the flash would go
[11:41] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: using 6.10 huh?
[11:41] <dooglus> regress: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mailx&searchon=names&version=all&release=all says it's available for warty, hoary, breezy, dapper, edgy and feisty
[11:41] <ceil420> click it to get the plugin
[11:41] <nu-> ceil420: that doesnt work in 6.10
[11:41] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, 7.04 and I've got flashplugin-nonfree installed.
[11:42] <modology> fiery_cleric: thanks alot
[11:42] <dooglus> regress: I expect it'll be available for the manky monkey, or whatever the next version is called
[11:42] <ceil420> if nothing else, there will be Manual Install, and Adobe's site will walk you through it
[11:42] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: that's weird. all i had to do was install from the pop up it game me
[11:42] <ceil420> i know i got flash workin' easy enough, and i'm noobish
[11:42] <regress> haha, thanks ;)
[11:42] <fiery_cleric> modology: just out of interest .... why?
[11:42] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, :(
[11:42] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: download from adobe. i  had to do that in 6.10
[11:42] <ceil420> or a search on mozilla's extensions for "flash"
[11:43] <dooglus> is he 'gusty' or 'gutsy'?  the weekly news says both
[11:43] <modology> fiery_cleric: for designing purpose. I plan to sort all command line in Linux in length string order so later on I can put it into my T-Shirt design
[11:43] <rambo3_> !info flashplugin.nonfree feisty
[11:43] <ubotu> Package flashplugin.nonfree does not exist in feisty
[11:43] <rambo3_> !info flashplugin.nonfree feisty
[11:43] <fiery_cleric> modology: glad i could help :)
[11:43] <rambo3_> damn it
[11:43] <modology> fiery_cleric: I would let you see the Tee Design after finish
[11:43] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, can you see this flash? http://my.opera.com/aaroncn/blog/show.dml/894208
[11:44] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, if there is a big blank in this page. Then the flash cannot be displayed.
[11:44] <Figs> sorry I got disconnected there
[11:45] <rambo3_> Aaronfromchina, there is nothing there
[11:45] <Figs> modology, did you solve it?
[11:45] <modology> Figs: yeah I solved it
[11:45] <rambo3_> Aaronfromchina, that is flex application you need flash 9.x +
[11:46] <Figs> ah
[11:46] <Figs> :P
[11:46] <rejeep> Hi! How can I see which available kernels I can boot with in yaboot?
[11:46] <Figs> well, the program works now :P
[11:46] <Aaronfromchina> rambo3_, OK. I see. that's NOT a flash-firefox problem, even though i can see a flash on that page on WinXP.
[11:46] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: no i cant
[11:46] <dooglus> fiery_cleric: what's the '$' for in your IFS=$'\n'?
[11:46] <modology> Figs: it's linux command line
[11:46] <Figs> ;)
[11:46] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: dont think theres suppsed to be a flash there
[11:46] <Figs> yeah, but I like overly complex solutions
[11:47] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, .... See.
[11:47] <Figs> I always miss the simple stuff
[11:47] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: if there was a flash there, it would tell me when i right click. it would give me flash options. but it doesnt
[11:47] <Figs> although I admit what I saw earlier was beyond me (I don't know sed)
[11:47] <Figs> anyway, adios
[11:47] <fiery_cleric> dooglus: um its bashes sometimes annoying inter field separator ... so if u want a list of lines instead of a list of words
[11:47] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: go to www.youtube.com can you see the vids?
[11:47] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, that is a SWF, what should I do to play it?
[11:48] <dooglus> fiery_cleric: why not just IFS='\n'?
[11:48] <dooglus> fiery_cleric: (that doesn't work, but why?)
[11:48] <rambo3_> !info flashplugin-nonfree feisty
[11:48] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:48] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: can you view the videos on youtube.com?
[11:48] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, yes, i can.
[11:48] <rambo3_> you need chinese japanese or what ever fonts for that
[11:49] <fiery_cleric> dooglus: ah yeah thats because its a way  of quoting that preserves the newline operator
[11:49] <elifed> nu-, I can as well
[11:49] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: then you have flash installed. therefore you probably got the HTML wrong trying to embed the swf
[11:49] <rambo3_>   \r\n
[11:50] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, but i can see it on WinXP. I'm sure.
[11:50] <elifed> although I am debating removing that package :D
[11:50] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, there is no extra plugin to install for playing flash. Is that right?
[11:50] <DVS01> what file to i edit to add repositories?
[11:50] <DVS01> to=do
[11:51] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, if it's right. I think I may try to adjust parameters of the HTML stuff. You may be right. Thank you very much.
[11:51] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: I don't know then. perhaps the encoding?
[11:52] <elifed> DVS01, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <Aaronfromchina> rambo3_, Thank you. :)
[11:52] <derek[] > where can I put the xset commands so that they are loaded everytime on booting?
[11:52] <nu-> no
[11:52] <guinessroxors> how can i 'reset' mysql so it just like when I installed it?
[11:52] <nu-> http://files.myopera.com/aaroncn/files/NamePK.swf
[11:52] <nu-> that works for me fine.
[11:52] <DVS01> thanks elifed
[11:52] <nu-> i can see the flash with the chinese fonts
[11:52] <elifed> DVS01, np
[11:52] <dooglus> fiery_cleric: so $'\n' is just a way to get bash to use a newline character?
[11:53] <rasputnik> morning all
[11:53] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, Yes, that is a flash name fighting game in Chinese.
[11:53] <rasputnik> anyone got nfsv4 (client) working?  when I try ubuntu gives me 'mount: unknown filesystem type 'nfs4''
[11:53] <elifed> rasputnik, good morning
[11:53] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: yea i can see. are you positive it works in windows? you just checked?
[11:54] <dooglus> fiery_cleric: oh, I see:  bash(1) tells me "Words of the form $'string' are treated specially" ... "\n   new line" - good knowledge!
[11:54] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, yes. it works in Windows.
[11:54] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: give me a minute
[11:54] <elifed> dooglus, bash is a pretty damn capable scripting language
[11:55] <fiery_cleric> dooglus: in other quoting the \n is treated as  just n  ... yeah combined with IFS its one of the most useful things about bash that i have found
[11:55] <guinessroxors> how can i delete all mysql databases and return it to a clean state?
[11:56] <rausb0> fiery_cleric: thats nice. i thought only echo handles this \n notation
[11:56] <guinessroxors> elifed, are you a particle physicist?
[11:57] <elifed> nope
[11:57] <guinessroxors> :-(
[11:57] <rasputnik> guinessroxors: what, flatten the whole thing? something like 'apt-get remove --purge mysql....'
[11:57] <elifed> yeah, sorry about that :P
[11:57] <gioele> hello
[11:57] <guinessroxors> rasputnik, lemme try that
[11:58] <rasputnik> guinessroxors: if you just want to get rid of some databases, go for 'drop database foo' in a mysql session
[11:58] <gioele> do anybody know how "linux32" on amd64 is supposed to work?
[11:59] <VSpike> Using maildrop, if I want to filter messages based on which of my mail accounts they were sent to, should I filter on the Envelope-to: field?
[11:59] <gioele> linux32 ./opera
[11:59] <gioele> ./opera: 325: ./bin/opera: not found
[11:59] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, <OBJECT CLASSID="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"CODEBASE="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=5,0,0,0"WIDTH="700" HEIGHT="450"><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME="SRC" VALUE="http://files.myopera.com/aaroncn/files/NamePK.swf"><EMBED QUALITY=high PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash"WIDTH
[11:59] <Aaronfromchina> ="0" HEIGHT="450" SRC="Flash"> </EMBED></OBJECT>
[11:59] <gioele> (obviously ./bin/opera exists)
[11:59] <Aaronfromchina> sorry.
[11:59] <elifed> whoa
[11:59] <rasputnik> gioele: does it run in a chroot or something?
[11:59] <Aaronfromchina> it's too long to paste here.  Sorry about that.
[11:59] <Luxurious> gioele: Just guessing, linux64 :P
[12:00] <gioele> rasputnik: no, it is a static app
[12:01] <Luxurious> gioele: Try putting in the full path in linux32
[12:01] <rasputnik> gioele: no, I mean is that how linux32 works?
[12:01] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: you still there?
[12:01] <rambo3_> what?
[12:01] <elifed> Aaronfromchina, if you're really from China, your English is amazing
[12:01] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, yes. I'm eating and thinking. :)
[12:01] <rasputnik> elifed: not as good as his html
[12:01] <abc123456> hhj
[12:01] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: one minute =] 
[12:01] <Aaronfromchina> elifed, yes, I'm from China. Thank you. :)
[12:02] <Aaronfromchina> elifed, living in Shen Zhen.
[12:02] <variant> Alumin: is there a problem with that? my girl friend is from sweden and her english is way better than mine..
[12:02] <gioele> Luxurious: no. same error
[12:03] <Luxurious> gioele: Wonder why the utility would lie to you about the file existing.
[12:04] <lush> hi. does anybody know how long shipit cds take to reach Sydney, Australia?
[12:04] <Luxurious> I'm not too good for pronouns.
[12:04] <guinessroxors> rasputnik, thanks
[12:04] <rasputnik> lush: they send them out in batches, it can take months
[12:04] <elifed> rasputnik, then his HTML must be outright scary :P
[12:04] <Vluid> HJ
[12:05] <rasputnik> guinessroxors: worked? cool.
[12:05] <gioele> lush: 14 or 20 days. It is better to ask to your local LUG
[12:05] <lush> thank you rasputnik
[12:05] <lush> thank you gioele
[12:05] <rasputnik> lush: maybe they're waiting for feisty?
[12:05] <abc123456> how are you?
[12:05] <abc123456> lush
[12:06] <rambo3_> Aaronfromchina, type in firefox  : about:plugins
[12:06] <lush> im fine. right now they're taking pre-orders for feisty
[12:07] <lush> i pre-ordered my feisty cds today
[12:08] <elifed> so far Feisty is looking very good
[12:08] <lush> i also ordered a free blag linux and gnu 60000 cd from thelinuxstore.ca
[12:08] <ArtVandalae> Only 3 days ><
[12:08] <ArtVandalae> If it's not delayed
[12:08] <elifed> I'm mucking with Xubuntu right now
[12:08] <lush> btw im in Sydney
[12:08] <Aaronfromchina> rambo3_, it lists shockware flash and Helix DNA plguin.
[12:09] <elifed> lush, what is Blag based on?
[12:09] <rambo3_> Aaronfromchina, what version of shockwave
[12:09] <lush> fedora core 6
[12:09] <elifed> lush, or is it its own animal
[12:09] <elifed> ah, okay
[12:09] <Aaronfromchina> rambo3_, under shockware flash, there are x-shockware-flash and futuresplace. The version is 9.0 r31
[12:10] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: You there?
[12:10] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, yes
[12:10] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: look: http://noobcircle.com/test.html
[12:10] <rambo3_> Aaronfromchina, thats just diferent filetype its OK then
[12:10] <rambo3_> are both activted ?
[12:10] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, I can see it!
[12:10] <nu-> Does it show on your screen
[12:10] <nu-> yay!
[12:11] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, yes!
[12:11] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: so it must be your html code
[12:11] <lush> also blag is recommended by richard stallman
[12:11] <elifed> Aaronfromchina, diff -u ;)
[12:11] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, OK.
[12:11] <lush> sorry Richard Stallman
[12:11] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: just look at the source code and copy it. change the path of course, and the dimensions
[12:11] <rasputnik> whee, nfsv4 works1
[12:12] <rasputnik> s/1/!
[12:13] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, OK. Thank you very much. I'll figure it out. :)
[12:13] <Aaronfromchina> rambo3_, Thanks for you help. :)
[12:13] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: No Problem. =] 
[12:14] <h1st0> *yawn*
[12:14] <rambo3_> np
[12:14] <rambo3_> lush, Stallman recomended blag ? who would in their sane mind reommend rpm ditro
[12:16] <lush> well, its a completely free distro. but Stallman probably recommends gnewsense over Blag
[12:16] <lush> since the FSF sponsor gnewsense
[12:19] <lush> why isn't anyone chatting anymore?
[12:19] <DVS01> i guess its that time of the day
[12:20] <Luxurious> Richard Stallman is an extremist, not a consumer.  He does what's necessary to work on his cause and has principles that a consumer might not have, so don't be sorry :-)
[12:20] <GnarlyBob> Luxurious: you're being too kind
[12:21] <rasputnik> ok, new home directory time. see you after a reboot
[12:21] <rasputnik> hopefully
[12:21] <Luxurious> Oh, right, I mean "Richard Stallman is an idiot!1!1!!!one!!"
[12:22] <GnarlyBob> Wow, mv communications is still around, talk about a blast from the past
[12:23] <Luxurious> FreeNode should have a procrastination support channel.
[12:23] <GnarlyBob> they're going to
[12:23] <GnarlyBob> some day
[12:24] <MarcN> GnarlyBob: I'm very happy with MV since the early 1990s.
[12:24] <Luxurious> Sweet
[12:24] <letronje> hi, any idea how to enable delay pools in squid in edgy?
[12:24] <rambo3_> meh fark quotes
[12:24] <GnarlyBob> MarcN: it's good to see that a little neighborhood ISP can stand on its own
[12:25] <foug> My monitor goes idle after about 5 minutes of not being used, it might be something else not sure. I've checked my screen saver and power save options and nothing in there seems to be causing this. Anyone have any ieda?
[12:25] <MarcN> GnarlyBob: you in NH?
[12:25] <rasputnik> yay, still alive
[12:25] <GnarlyBob> MarcN: I am now, yes
[12:25] <Luxurious> --"Internet Access since 1991"
[12:25] <Aaronfromchina> nu-,
[12:25] <burung_hitam> aku perempuan
[12:25] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: yea?
[12:26] <rasputnik> NFSv4 feels a bit faster than local XFS in fact
[12:26] <GnarlyBob> MarcN: I was sysadm at tiac in 93-94
[12:26] <Luxurious> MV Communications -- "Web Page since 1997"
[12:26] <GnarlyBob> hahah
[12:26] <MarcN> Luxurious: "Internet Access since 1991"
[12:26] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, I've got the problem solved. I miss src value of <EMBED> course. made a stupid mistake. Now the flash works fine. Thanks a lot.
[12:27] <Luxurious> Check out the nested list and counter at the bottom of their page.
[12:27] <Luxurious> HAHA
[12:27] <Luxurious> The copyright notice says 1997-2006
[12:27] <GnarlyBob> Luxurious: they're doing _something_ right, they're a really old small-town ISP that's still in business
[12:27] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: No big deal. happens to the best of us =] 
[12:27] <Aaronfromchina> :)
[12:28] <GnarlyBob> even if that something isn't their website :)
[12:28] <MarcN> Luxurious: they started as an access, not a web hosting company.  The techs answer the phones and can answer linux-related questions.
[12:28] <Luxurious> MarcN: I made up that slogan to reflect their 1997-style web site.
[12:28] <Luxurious> Sounds like a cool company anyways.
[12:29] <Luxurious> Though their usage of nested lists will haunt me in my dreams.
[12:30] <lush> hello. what should i do if i want to post a very big sentence over here?
[12:30] <foug> My monitor goes idle after about 5 minutes of not being used, it might be something else not sure. I've checked my screen saver and power save options and nothing in there seems to be causing this. Anyone have any ieda?
[12:30] <Luxurious> lush: Pastebin it and e-mail us the link.
[12:30] <lush> how do i pastebin it?
[12:30] <Luxurious> pastey.net
[12:31] <lush> ok thank you
[12:31] <Luxurious> No prob.  You should probably just post the link though
[12:31] <Luxurious> Because we are 1047 in here, so e-mailing us might become a tedious task.
[12:31] <Luxurious> Hc\\, you bastard, ruined my integrity.
[12:33] <Layer8> hi all
[12:33] <Luxurious> Hiii giiirlfriend
[12:33] <Luxurious> No, not really.  Don't be scared.
[12:34] <Layer8> does anyone have a clue how to configure libpam-ccreds ?
[12:37] <Aaronfromchina> Any software can convert MP3 to RealAudio?
[12:38] <AMDXP> hi there any photographers
[12:38] <nu-> Does ubuntu have a mail server?
[12:38] <lush> ok here's the link: http://www.pastey.net/12819. please see it
[12:39] <Luxurious> That, lush, is not a really big sentence, but thank you for being considerate.
[12:39] <rambo3_> AMDXP, try #ubuntuforums
[12:40] <AMDXP> rambo ok thanks
[12:40] <rambo3_> on the account of ff theme  i ll leave it
[12:40] <lush> Whenever i close Firefox, that error message comes. what could be the problem?
[12:41] <Layer8> nu- what are you looking for?
[12:41] <lush> could it be a problem in about:config?
[12:42] <moDumass> Hey all, could someone please help me make my previously writable NTFS writable again, i did something that mashed that setup
[12:42] <rambo3_> moDumass, just mount it with ntfs-3g as  part type
[12:43] <drumline_> Is there a linux chkdsk utility for NTFS that will fix the file system?
[12:44] <lush> Apart from that message when I close Firefox, Firefox seems to work just fine
[12:44] <lush> but its annoying having that message come everytime i close firefox
[12:45] <moDumass> rambo3 its mounted and i have it listed in fstab
[12:45] <lush> i think it may be a problem in about:config, but i don't know how to fix it
[12:45] <rambo3_> lush, and message says what? you posted a micro image
[12:46] <lush> wait, i'll upload a bigger picture
[12:46] <askar> I can not write to my external hd.. the owner is root?
[12:47] <kernando> hello im using a guide just after i installed ubuntu but none of it has worked i get errors all of the place http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/02/13-things-to-do-immediately-after.html
[12:48] <kernando> :/
[12:49] <wheels3572> When you goto applications/system and terminal whats' the CLI command for terminal in Xubuntu?
[12:50] <kernando> dont know try #xubuntu
[12:50] <rambo3_> !cli | wheels3572
[12:50] <ubotu> wheels3572: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:50] <rasputnik> wheels3572: gnome-terminal
[12:50] <rambo3_> so you just asked cli command for cli
[12:51] <wheels3572> rasputnik, ty rasputnik
[12:51] <rasputnik> rambo3_: you'll need it if you switch window manager
[12:52] <rambo3_> rasputnik, what do you mean
[12:52] <lush> ok. here's a link to a new screenshot: http://www.pastey.net/12822
[12:53] <lush> please see it
[12:53] <lush> its bigger than the last one
[12:53] <rasputnik> rambo3_: if you're not using gnome, you need to know what command runs the terminal so you can setup a shortcut. it's not a dumb question
[12:54] <spheard> Hi, Ive just reinstalled vista on my dual boot with edgy. vista has over written my mbr
[12:54] <spheard> is there an easy way to get grub back on charge?
[12:54] <spheard> in charge
[12:54] <rambo3_> rasputnik, :P i never use gnome or KDE . why are you telling me that ?
[12:54] <rasputnik> rambo3_: you seemed surprised : 'rambo3_> so you just asked cli command for cli'
[12:55] <kernando> when i open synaptic package manager i get E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manyally run 'dpkg confugure -a' to correct the problem ...  so if i type that in a terminal i get 'requested operation requires superuser privelege
[12:55] <rasputnik> kernando: sudo dpkg confugure -a
[12:55] <kernando> ok
[12:55] <rasputnik> or 'configure' even
[12:55] <rambo3_> lush, it must be gtk error or theme that you are using in firefox. when closing the window event is called that has no reference
[12:55] <rambo3_> rasputnik, yes so ?
[12:56] <rasputnik> rambo3_: so i was explaining why wheels3572 might've wanted to know how to run gnome-terminal??
[12:57] <lush> ok ill try that
[12:57] <kernando> i cannot get my ntfs hdd recognized
[12:57] <rambo3_> rasputnik, good then ? just don't include me
[12:58] <rasputnik> rambo3_: sorry, have I called your mum names or something?
[12:58] <rambo3_> rasputnik, dont flame in here , its just wrong with false teaching
[12:58] <spheard> Hi, Ive just reinstalled vista on my dual boot with edgy. vista has over written my MBR. Is there an easy way to get grub back on charge?
[12:58] <rasputnik> rambo3_: I have no idea what you are talking about. let's drop this.
[01:04] <steven43126> How can i search through a file and just output regular expressions that match, ie rep outputs the whole line i just want the pattern ?
[01:05] <rasputnik> steven43126: it's easy with something like perl or ruby , don't know about the shell though.
[01:06] <zootm> steven43126: I think what you want is the "-o" switch
[01:06] <steven43126> rasputnik, i know i don't write shell scripts that often but i know there must be away of doing this through the shell, maybe sed? but i can only find options for replacing text etc etc not just outputting the matched pattern ?
[01:06] <zootm> for grep
[01:06] <rasputnik> zootm: nice catch
[01:06] <steven43126> zootm, grep --binary-files=text --only-matching -E 'mailto:[a-z,A-Z] .*@.*\.gov\.uk' SCHOOL\ LIST.doc
[01:07] <steven43126> thats what im using but still outputs the whole line ?
[01:07] <phire> Does anyone know of a good hex editor/viewer for really big files?
[01:07] <zootm> that's strange, --only-matching is the same as -o, right?
[01:07] <steven43126> yup says so in the man page tried both lol
[01:07] <rasputnik> steven43126: '.*' will match as much as it can
[01:07] <zootm> steven43126: rasputnik is right
[01:08] <zootm> it'll eat the rest of the line
[01:08] <zootm> try replacing the first .* with [^@]  and the second with [^.] 
[01:08] <steven43126> yup i suppose i might be missing something let me try replacing the .* section
[01:08] <zootm> or [^\.] 
[01:08] <zootm> i don't remember if you need to escape . in character classes
[01:09] <zootm> also, I'm not sure that pattern does what you want it to anyway
[01:10] <noget> hey anyone know of a matlab irc channel?
[01:11] <steven43126> zootm just want it to extract email addresses from a .doc
[01:11] <zootm> hold on
[01:11] <zootm> they all end with .gov.uk, yeah?
[01:12] <steven43126> all addresses end in .gov.uk so .* should match all characters up to the .gov.uk ?
[01:12] <zootm> yeah, but it's eager
[01:12] <zootm> it will also match the .gov.uk
[01:12] <zootm> ...and then the rest of the line
[01:12] <zootm> ;)
[01:12] <steven43126> ah
[01:13] <rasputnik> zootm, steven43126 have a feeling a word doc is going to look like one huge line to grep, too
[01:13] <zootm> also the bit where you have [a-z,A-Z] , that will match any letter, or a comma
[01:13] <rasputnik> zootm: what's grepese for 'non-whitespace'?
[01:13] <zootm> then the .* after will match anything
[01:13] <zootm> ummm
[01:13] <jrib> noget: help with installing it?  or using it?
[01:13] <zootm> \W maybe?
[01:14] <zootm> i think capitals does the opposite
[01:14] <zootm> http://www.regular-expressions.info/ has a pretty good regex reference
[01:14] <rasputnik> zootm: \S (\W is 'non-word characters')
[01:15] <zootm> rasputnik: Oh. Yeah. Well spotted ;)
[01:15] <zootm> who has classes called "whitespace" and "word", anyway
[01:15] <zootm> lol
[01:15] <rasputnik> zootm: soo, does that help? something like '\S*\.gov\.uk' ? like I said, I'm strictly ruby and perl these days
[01:15] <phire> why don't you export it to text first?
[01:16] <zootm> \S* will still match "."
[01:16] <rasputnik> phire: if you do that, the terrorists have won
[01:16] <steven43126> zootm yup i think ill give that a try
[01:16] <zootm> the main problem here is that the bit before the .gov.uk can still have dots in it ;)
[01:17] <rasputnik> zootm: yes, so \S will work, won't it?
[01:17] <steven43126> thanks for the help guys im of for dinner now so ill have a tinker with the regexp when i get back
[01:17] <zootm> rasputnik: No, I think the point is not to match the ., otherwise it'll still match the .gov.uk
[01:17] <steven43126> ill post the one that works when it works ! ;)
[01:17] <rawrzers> YOUALLSUCKMAJOReNORMOUSEASSHOLE
[01:17] <rawrzers> thank you
[01:17] <rasputnik> zootm: OIC. ta.
[01:19] <sivaji> whether fiesty is good ?
[01:19] <rasputnik> sivaji: it's ok. what do you want it to do?
[01:20] <zootm> rasputnik: If grep does the .*? version of * that could just be used
[01:20] <sivaji> if it is good i will upgrade do u know anything about that
[01:20] <zootm> it's not necessarily efficient but whatever...
[01:20] <rasputnik> sivaji: seems to work fine for me, but without knowing what you use it for its hard to say.
[01:21] <zootm> steven43126: Just take your original one
[01:21] <zootm> steven43126: And add "?" to both of the ".*" bits
[01:21] <ripso> #
[01:21] <rasputnik> zootm: I always forget what options/regex features grep supports
[01:21] <sivaji> y u r right i am asking about general features
[01:22] <zootm> rasputnik: It does support it, just checked
[01:22] <zootm> rasputnik: Adding a ? to * makes it lazy so it checks what follows it first, fixes it with minimum fuss ;)
[01:22] <rasputnik> sivaji: just try it then. It's not all that different - just packages are a bit more recent and gnome has some new eye candy.
[01:23] <sivaji> can i upgrade directly from dapper to fiesty
[01:23] <rasputnik> zootm: oh there we are then.
[01:23] <rasputnik> sivaji: yes: 'sudo update-manager -d'
[01:23] <scotthammy> Hi Everyone..
[01:23] <zootm> rasputnik: Yeah, I just didn't think grep supported that, didn't even think to bloody check!
[01:24] <sivaji> may  i  know what this command will do
[01:24] <rasputnik> sivaji: it'll tell update-manager to look for more recent distributions and will ask if you want to upgrade to them
[01:24] <scotthammy> IF anyone can help me with setting up a wifi card can you pv me plz..
[01:24] <jrib> sivaji: you shouldn't upgrade directly from dapper to feisty, you should go to edgy first and then to feisty
[01:24] <rasputnik> no manpage for update-manager, bah
[01:25] <phire> scotthammy, what kind of wifi card is it?
[01:25] <sivaji> may i know reason for that (dapper -> edgy and edgy->fiesty)
[01:25] <bquorning> Hi all. I'm thinking about installing Plone & Zope on Ubuntu 6.06 server. Apt-get suggests Plone 2.1.2 on Zope 2.8.6. Is it possible (and relatively safe) to install Plone 2.5 & Zope 3?
[01:26] <superkirbyartist> !swap
[01:26] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[01:26] <sivaji> jrib : may i know reason for that (dapper -> edgy and edgy->fiesty)
[01:27] <ROnewbie> I get no sound out of a Gateway 3040GZ laptop running Feisty; my sound card is an Intel 82801DB ch4; it's installed, and the modules are loaded, but no sound is coming out of it. HELP ?
[01:27] <superkirbyartist> How do I turn on my two swap partitions automatically?
[01:27] <jrib> sivaji: dapper -> feisty isn't supported
[01:27] <rasputnik> superkirbyartist: add lines to /etc/fstab
[01:27] <scotthammy> I have been reading the forums alot, and the how to, its a Broadcom 43xx
[01:27] <variant> rasputnik: this is not the feisty support channel
[01:27] <variant> rasputnik: #ubuntu+1
[01:27] <rasputnik> variant: yeah, i know. he's running dapper.
[01:27] <variant> rasputnik: sorry, was for ROnewbie
[01:28] <pisasu> hi
[01:28] <rasputnik> variant: np
[01:28] <scotthammy> im thinking if i wait the new version will have better wifi support?
[01:28] <variant> ROnewbie: this is not the feisty support channel
[01:28] <variant> ROnewbie: #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <pisasu> is der ni 1 to help me
[01:28] <rasputnik> pisasu: ask your question
[01:28] <ROnewbie> oh, thanks
[01:28] <inflex> I'm confused... gcc is installed on my ubuntu setup... (desktop, 6.10) but I can't seem to /compile/ anything without it bitterly complaining about underfined fn's and a zillion other things
[01:28] <ROnewbie> variant: thanks
[01:28] <phire> scotthammy, you could always update now
[01:29] <inflex> what else do I need to apt-get in order to have a properly functioning 'C compiler' under ubuntu?
[01:29] <rasputnik> inflex: you need 'build-essential' - you also need header files for the libraries you're trying to build with
[01:29] <pisasu> hi rasputnik i was using mirc long back
[01:29] <Suurorca> inflex, there's a mteapackage called build-essential
[01:29] <inflex> rasputnik: okay, thankyou
[01:29] <scotthammy> sorry im in IT but very shit at linux. im on 6.10 atm.
[01:29] <pisasu> now i want to chat with indian ppl
[01:29] <pisasu> how do i do that
[01:29] <sivaji> rasputnik: update-manage command not foune
[01:30] <sivaji> rasputnik: update-manage command not found
[01:30] <pisasu> and which server i should connect
[01:30] <rasputnik> sivaji: update-manager
[01:30] <pisasu> hey there is indian ppl here?
[01:30] <rasputnik> pisasu: #ubuntu-in
[01:30] <scotthammy> after i went over the how2 ubuntu gets locked up on the startup screen, so i will have to do a full reimage to fix?
[01:30] <phire> scotthammy, its easy, just a update-manager -c -d
[01:30] <tarzeau> !id
[01:30] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[01:31] <sivaji> rasputnik: update-manager command not found
[01:31] <tarzeau> pisasu: /who *.id
[01:31] <scotthammy> i cant even load ubuntu anymore..
[01:31] <jrib> !upgrade > sivaji    (sivaji, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:31] <sivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ update manager
[01:31] <sivaji> bash: update: command not found
[01:31] <phire> what stage does it get to?
[01:31] <pisasu> ?? tarzeau
[01:32] <sivaji> !update-manager
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <phire> sivaji, your missing the "-"
[01:32] <pisasu> hi shivaji wer r u frm
[01:32] <aa^way> trying to run song.mp3 but it says i cant run it and i need decoder
[01:32] <aa^way> does apt-get one if yes can i get command or package name
[01:32] <sivaji> india
[01:32] <moDumass> hey all, so i have an hdd mounted, but i have no write access, how do i innitiate write access
[01:32] <moDumass> its ntfs
[01:32] <scotthammy> very first screen, with the bar moving right to left and back again..
[01:32] <pisasu> thanq rasputnik
[01:32] <scotthammy> then the bar stops moving.. aka lockup
[01:32] <rasputnik> pisasu: welcome
[01:33] <pisasu> but i want chat with the common chat ppl not abt the ubuntu
[01:33] <rasputnik> pisasu: don't know then, that's not really an ubuntu question :)
[01:33] <pisasu> any other indian server
[01:33] <phire> ok, you can edit the grub boot command to disable the splash screen
[01:34] <scotthammy> the Command?
[01:34] <pisasu> this is my fist usage of ubuntu
[01:34] <pisasu> i love it very much
[01:35] <phire> after the bios, grub will come up, with the boot menu
[01:35] <scotthammy> :) dito if i get it all working :)
[01:35] <pisasu> i don't have any song in my sys then how do i check the sound
[01:35] <phire> select ubuntu with arrows keys
[01:35] <sivaji> !overlay
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about overlay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <sivaji> !overlays
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about overlays - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <DVS01> wow
[01:36] <DVS01> i didnt realize this choice before, but i found the perfect choice between kde and gnome
[01:36] <DVS01> both
[01:36] <phire> then press the key to edit boot commands
[01:36] <user____> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:36] <user____>  what does this mean?
[01:36] <tony_ubuntu_newb> I need help getting a floppy drive working.
[01:37] <phire> I think is 'e'
[01:37] <sipior> pisasu: go to System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector, and there should be a "test" button which will generate sound output
[01:37] <phire> then edit the line like " /vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hda9 ro quiet splash "
[01:37] <phire> remove "splash"
[01:38] <scotthammy> Where can i download a full iso of 7.04 its not on the download page..
[01:38] <rasputnik> scotthammy: see channel subject
[01:38] <scotthammy> i think ill test that b4 trying to fix my setup
[01:39] <scotthammy>  :-) thanks.
[01:39] <scotthammy> bye
[01:40] <pisasu> its showing testing but i did't hear anything
[01:40] <tzfardea> hey can somebody please give me good program for writing musical notes and playing in with midi?
[01:40] <pisasu> i am using IBM think centre
[01:40] <tzfardea> s/in/it
[01:40] <sipior> pisasu: and you selected the "output" test, right?
[01:40] <pisasu> S
[01:41] <rasputnik> pisasu: open gnome volume control
[01:41] <sipior> yep, might be muted :-)
[01:41] <rasputnik> pisasu: have a look under File -> Device, you might find there is a second output device listed.
[01:42] <pisasu> s intel ich
[01:42] <rasputnik> pisasu: is there just one to choose, or 2?
[01:43] <pisasu> first it was the second one now i tested with the first one still the same
[01:43] <pisasu> thwe another ADI1888
[01:44] <sipior> pisasu: what is the exact name of each?
[01:44] <rasputnik> pisasu: so there are two? bring the 'PCM' volume on both
[01:44] <pisasu> intel ICH7 (alsa mixer)
[01:44] <smok3> questions: whats the default sudo password?
[01:44] <sipior> and the other?
[01:44] <pisasu> Analog Device ADI1888 (OSS mixer)
[01:45] <rasputnik> smok3: your password
[01:45] <HYPOCRISY> hey
[01:45] <smok3> <- ubuntu noob here
[01:45] <cyberfr0g`> hey
[01:45] <rasputnik> smok3: i mean, your user password (the one you login as)
[01:45] <pisasu> all the volume is full
[01:45] <sipior> pisasu: both "master" and "PCM"
[01:45] <sipior> ?
[01:45] <pisasu> and its not muted
[01:45] <pisasu> yes
[01:46] <Nameless> add master Nameless
[01:46] <sipior> pisasu: and back in the multimedia selection window, which output plugin is selected? is it "autodetect"?
[01:46] <abc123456> hi
[01:47] <gee|UNIX|> hi
[01:47] <smok3> rasputnik: ok, it is working!
[01:47] <gee|UNIX|> none
[01:47] <Nameless> hi
[01:47] <pisasu> no i choose one by one and testing
[01:47] <gee|UNIX|> hi name
[01:47] <rasputnik> smok3: cool.
[01:47] <Nameless> nameless :P
[01:47] <abc123456> hi,gee
[01:47] <gee|UNIX|> abc hi
[01:47] <Luxurious> Hi gee.
[01:47] <Nameless> (.
[01:47] <pisasu> hay i got a call i ll come amter a while
[01:47] <gee|UNIX|> is it all ok?
[01:47] <Luxurious> We must really like this gee guy.
[01:48] <gee|UNIX|> ten lux
[01:48] <smok3> another q: whats up with sudo alien fglrx_6_8_0-8.10.19-1.i386.rpm ?
[01:48] <gee|UNIX|> x
[01:48] <smok3> just says no alien found :)
[01:48] <gee|UNIX|> tenx lux
[01:48] <phire> I'm having problem with hex editers and memory leaks, can anyone recomend a good one>
[01:48] <phire> ?
[01:48] <tarzeau> phire: mcedit ?
[01:48] <gee|UNIX|> for me its the first here
[01:48] <dichtbijzee> smoke you need to install alien
[01:48] <ziquan> hi
[01:48] <dichtbijzee> first
[01:48] <gee|UNIX|> its first take a unix OS
[01:49] <ores> is there any known bug with feisty gnome randomly making ones keyboard not work?
[01:49] <gee|UNIX|> hei guys tell me some good_kool software to edit pics... please
[01:49] <dichtbijzee> hhmm
[01:50] <dichtbijzee> gimp!
[01:50] <gee|UNIX|> for linux
[01:50] <smok3> so sudo apt-get install alien ?
[01:50] <Stickymaddness> photoshop
[01:50] <rasputnik> gee|UNIX|: gimp
[01:50] <dichtbijzee> yes
[01:50] <phire> !gimp
[01:50] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[01:50] <dichtbijzee> smok3: yes
[01:50] <gee|UNIX|> id like edit my photo with strange effect
[01:50] <Luxurious> I've heard making pictures with assembly is also pretty efficient.
[01:50] <gee|UNIX|> a good soft beetween phostoshop coreldraw and publisher
[01:51] <phire> Luxurious, only bitmaps
[01:51] <dichtbijzee> gee, Gimp is your man
[01:51] <gee|UNIX|> ok tenx
[01:51] <gee|UNIX|> but i have said stop to man ahahah
[01:51] <Luxurious> phire: Oh.
[01:51] <Nameless> Oh! , *Tahran where is it*
[01:51] <gee|UNIX|> im an italian girl ppl U?
[01:52] <dichtbijzee> :O girl?
[01:52] <gee|UNIX|> yes
[01:52] <darkteckno_> Hi Italian girl
[01:52] <moDumass> *** is there anyone that could possibly help me get write access on my mounted ntfs hdd ***
[01:52] <gee|UNIX|> hi dark
[01:53] <CheesyJedi> moDumass: sure, install ntfs-g
[01:53] <CheesyJedi> *ntfs-3g
[01:53] <phire> tarzeau, mcedit gives me File is too large: flash2.img
[01:53] <gee|UNIX|> ppl some good_kool idea for setting my Kubuntu?
[01:53] <gee|UNIX|> ???
[01:54] <moDumass> CheesyJedi done. not working though
[01:54] <sakabatou>  C compiler cannot create executables, what do i have to do to fix this ?
[01:54] <tarzeau> phire: heh, bad luck. try lde
[01:54] <tarzeau> phire: how large is that file?
[01:54] <jrib> sakabatou: have you installed build-essential?  what are you compiling?
[01:54] <phire> I need an hex editer that can handle Large files -- its 256mb
[01:54] <rasputnik> gee|UNIX|: what do you want to do with it?
[01:54] <gee|UNIX|> but from this irc_clint_linux can i dowload from bot same mirc for windows?
[01:54] <sakabatou> jrib, compiling ALSA driver
[01:55] <sakabatou> And yes ive installed the one in the ubuntu 6.06 cd!
[01:55] <CheesyJedi> moDumass: I did it yesterday, you need to install it and then edit a file
[01:55] <rasputnik> jrib: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:55] <moDumass> sorry accidentaly closed
[01:55] <CheesyJedi> moDumass: let me go find the instructions, hold on
[01:56] <gee|UNIX|> hi acido
[01:56] <mister-sapient> how do i uninstall esayubuntu?
[01:56] <Nameless> Do you have industrial Rock archives
[01:57] <phire> tarzeau, lde didn't work, not a file system
[01:57] <Nameless> Do you have industrial Rock archives
[01:57] <Nameless> Do you have industrial Rock archives
[01:57] <Nameless> Do you have industrial Rock archives
[01:57] <Nameless> Do you have industrial Rock archives
[01:57] <tarzeau> phire: lde works on any file
[01:57] <Nameless> Do you have industrial Rock archives
[01:57] <jrib> !repeat | Nameless
[01:57] <ubotu> Nameless: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:57] <gee|UNIX|> name i have only grunge song archive
[01:57] <gee|UNIX|> :))
[01:57] <kingcobra> UUID=8884ee64-6a9b-4b49-b74f-f5cc3f028566 none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:58] <kingcobra> can somebody tell me what is wrong with that line that swap is not being mounted at bootup
[01:58] <rasputnik> kingcobra: I guess the UUID? the rest looks ok.
[01:58] <Luxurious> HAH, I'm doing a LIST!
[01:58] <Luxurious> I don't know why that's exciting, but now you know.
[01:59] <nexous> Hi, how do I go about getting a previous version of firefox? Can I just remove 2.0 via the repos, will there be 1.x in the repos or do previous versions get removed?
[01:59] <CheesyJedi> moDumass: ok, I will give you instructions. You ready to follow them?
[01:59] <Nameless> !repeat
[01:59] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:59] <gee|UNIX|> ok ppl i must go
[01:59] <gee|UNIX|> see u later
[01:59] <gee|UNIX|> kizzes
[01:59] <jrib> nexous: previous versions are removed
[01:59] <nexous> jrib: okay so I have to get the tar ball from their site of an old version?
[02:00] <jrib> nexous: what version of ubuntu?
[02:00] <CheesyJedi> moDumass: ok, in the terminal, root-access the fstab folder with: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:00] <nexous> 6.10
[02:00] <Nameless> !add del jrib
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about add del jrib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <jrib> !firefox > nexous    (nexous, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:00] <Nameless> !del master jrib
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about del master jrib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <jrib> nexous: those instructions are for installing 2.0 but should work for you
[02:00] <kingcobra> rasputnik, what should be there instead of the uuid thats there
[02:00] <jrib> Nameless: stop please
[02:00] <moDumass>  type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password
[02:01] <CheesyJedi> moDumass: there, look for the name of your mounted ntfs drive and where it says ntfs next to it, change it to ntfs-3g
[02:01] <Nameless> oh!
[02:01] <nexous> jrib: i don't know how to read PMs via screen.
[02:01] <rasputnik> kingcobra: you can give it the physical device instead, if you know it? (e.g. /dev/sdaX)
[02:01] <nexous> !firefox
[02:01] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:01] <Nameless> /identify pass.
[02:01] <jrib> nexous: what irc client are you using?
[02:01] <nexous> jrib: screen
[02:01] <jrib> nexous: screen isn't an irc client
[02:01] <jrib> or did I miss something?
[02:01] <moDumass> cheesyJedi, where am i looking?
[02:01] <kingcobra> rasputnik, ok
[02:01] <CheesyJedi> in /etc/fstab
[02:01] <nexous> jrib: sorry, irssi
[02:02] <CheesyJedi> root edit it with: gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[02:02] <nexous> jrib: got confused on the startup of it 'screen irssi' it is irssi though.
[02:02] <kingcobra> rasputnik, what is the the uuid for
[02:02] <jrib> nexous: you should have a red/pink number in the blue bar, press alt-# where # is that red number
[02:02] <rasputnik> kingcobra: it's a way to recognize the same partition if you plugin the disk on a different bus
[02:02] <kingcobra> CheesyJedi, i know, i got the line from there
[02:03] <CheesyJedi> kingcobra: say what?
[02:03] <aa^way> how i can make a text box in java?
[02:03] <nexous> jrib: i already ran the bot already. I got the links.
[02:03] <kingcobra> CheesyJedi, sorry thought u were talkn 2 me :)
[02:03] <nexous> jrib: Thanks.
[02:03] <aa^way> not textarea, just like in a IRC, going to make ir cclient
[02:03] <aa^way> oops wtf wrong chan
[02:03] <rasputnik> kingcobra: /dev/sdaX is the Xth partition on scsi disk a, but UUID will be the same whatever  controller the disk is on
[02:03] <CheesyJedi> kingcobra: no problem, I was taking to moDumass
[02:03] <kingcobra> rasputnik, very good
[02:03] <moDumass> CheesyJedi this is the current line in fstab "/dev/sdb5       /media/sdb5 ntfs-3g  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0" and its not working
[02:04] <moDumass> i cant quite figure out why
[02:04] <CheesyJedi> moDumass: oh. then I don't know then. That's what I did when I installed it and it worked for me
[02:04] <kingcobra> rasputnik, i suppose i wont matter much cos i dont plan on movin it
[02:04] <h3x> does anyone know how to set up openGL with GNU ?
[02:04] <jrib> moDumass: get rid of umask=0222
[02:04] <kingcobra> *it wont matter
[02:04] <rasputnik> kingcobra: exactly. it became the default in edgy, i think.
[02:04] <CheesyJedi> moDumass: have you restarted your computer since installing ntfs-3g
[02:05] <drumline_> Why should he need to restart it?
[02:05] <kingcobra> rasputnik, thanks for help bye now
[02:05] <sufama> ciao ce qualcuno che mi legge??
[02:05] <Luxurious> !english
[02:05] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:05] <jrib> !it | sufama
[02:05] <ubotu> sufama: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:06] <sufama> ok??
[02:06] <Luxurious> You just know it all, don't you?
[02:06] <sufama> scusate tanto
[02:06] <sivaji> is there any command to display os information like version etc
[02:07] <phire> uname -a
[02:07] <moDumass> jrib so remove the unmask0222 so that it now reads "/dev/sdb5       /media/sdb5 ntfs-3g  nls=utf8 0       0"?
[02:07] <jrib> moDumass: yes
[02:07] <sorcerer22>  hey guys i run ubuntu 6.10 and i just installed it and also .. umm installed warcraft 3 .. but when i try playing the game it says .. to insert the disc could some on please help me
[02:09] <h3x> How can you set up GNU G++ to compile OpenGL ?
[02:09] <Luxurious> sorcerer22: Did you download this from the WoW website?
[02:09] <sorcerer22> Luxurious: ummm no this is the original cd with the cd key and what not for warcraft3
[02:10] <Luxurious> sorcerer22: And you have inserted the CD?
[02:10] <pitagoricus> hi! i've deleted the tray icon... how can i restore the original one in ubuntu? i've added a new notification area, but icons do not appear! thanks
[02:10] <sorcerer22> Luxurious: yeah i have .. in cedega .. it says .. insert disc when iam launching it from cedega
[02:10] <CheesyJedi> how do I get the volume control that's controlled by keyboard shortcuts on my laptop to control a certain track of sound (like PCM, for example)???
[02:10] <pisasu> hi i am back
[02:10] <phire> sorcerer22, you will probally need a nocd crack
[02:11] <sorcerer22> phire: umm where can i get one for warcraft 3 ..
[02:11] <phire> try gamecopyworld.com
[02:11] <learnin9> exit
[02:13] <sorcerer22> umm gamecopyworld seems to malfuction the search option
[02:14] <pisasu> can u help getting the sound
[02:14] <Mike> Hello
[02:14] <noesc> anyone here available to helping me with webcam grabbing?
[02:14] <epod> noesc, what do you mean?
[02:14] <Mike> Can anyone help me set up my WG111 (Wireless Network Adapter)In ubuntu 6.06?
[02:15] <mg> hi i've got a problem with ubuntu 6.10 - i tried to install ubuntu (and after that failed xubuntu) on a amd k6 400MHz, 128MiB RAM but the boot process hangs up after showing some progress bar activity. is there an option to enable verbose output?
[02:15] <mg> mike, did you try to google after wg111 and ubuntu?
[02:15] <dichtbijzee> mg: alt+F1
[02:15] <noesc> epod: I try to use my Philips webcam together with aMSN. But aMSN returns: "no videograbber available"
[02:15] <dichtbijzee> during boot
[02:15] <Mike> Yes.
[02:15] <Mike> It reconises it
[02:16] <mg> thx dichtbijzee
[02:16] <Mike> I just dont know how to get it to connect to my router :S
[02:16] <mg> mike, how did you install your wlan card did you use the ndiswrapper?
[02:16] <epod> noesc, then I'm guessing that you don't have it installed properly.  Unfortunately I can't help you with that for that webcam.  Maybe check ubuntuforums.org
[02:16] <Mike> Its all automatic on XP. I know the IP address of it its 192.168.0.1, But thats all I know. :S
[02:16] <mg> mike, try iwconfig scan
[02:17] <Mike> How do i use that?
[02:17] <jsgotangco> do it from the command line
[02:17] <jsgotangco> iwlist scanning
[02:17] <Mike> Do i just type in iwconfig scan
[02:17] <mg> mike, did you configure your ndiswrapper to recodnize your wireless network?
[02:17] <Mike> No :S
[02:17] <noesc> epod: thanks. But my v4l recognise the cam as Philips 740 (inside aMSN)
[02:18] <Mike> I just plugged it in
[02:18] <persen> Hi, how do i get a reference to the project using my plugin ?
[02:18] <mg> mike, is there something special about your network (encryption like wep, wpa?)
[02:18] <persen> So i can get the basepath of the project for example.
[02:18] <Mike> Nope
[02:18] <epod> noesc, if you install camorama, does it capture the input?
[02:18] <Mike> Its open!
[02:18] <mg> mike, just pluggend in means it's an usb device?
[02:18] <Mike> Yes.
[02:18] <moDumass> woohoo, thanks poeple
[02:18] <noesc> epod: So I guess that some kind of database of webcams and identifies somehow
[02:18] <noesc> epod: will try.. brb
[02:18] <moDumass> i got ntfs write access
[02:19] <mg> mike, just type in ,,ifconfig'' and then iwconfig and post the output on rafb.net/paste
[02:19] <sipior> Mike: try installing the network-manager package. frankly, for better wireless support, you'd be wise to upgrade to ubuntu feisty as it comes out this week
[02:19] <moDumass> any idea how to make a prog start on startup like the "starup" menu in Win
[02:19] <moDumass> ?
[02:19] <Mike> :S
[02:19] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I make adobe reader my preferred PDF reader?
[02:19] <Mike> so type in if config iwconfig?
[02:19] <mg> modumass, haven't gnome kde etc their own startup screen
[02:20] <jsgotangco> Lunar_Lamp: right click on the file and select properties
[02:20] <mg> mike, first type in ,,ifconfig[enter] ''
[02:20] <sipior> Mike: "ifconfig" will list the current network devices on your system
[02:20] <mg> then you type in ,,iwconfig[enter] ''
[02:20] <Mike> With the ""'s?
[02:20] <sipior> Mike: you'll be looking for an entry like "eth0" or the like
[02:20] <Lunar_Lamp> jsgotangco, thanks :-)
[02:20] <Mike> ok
[02:20] <mg> mike, no without the ,,'' i just wanted to see whether your system recodnizes your network card
[02:21] <sipior> Mike: then try "iwlist eth0 scanning" with the appropriate substitution and see what happens
[02:21] <CheesyJedi> how do I get the volume control that's controlled by keyboard shortcuts on my laptop to control a certain track of sound (like PCM, for example)?
[02:21] <mg> mike, a and type ,,arp -a'' and post the output together with the other stuff
[02:21] <persen> ops, wrong chan
[02:21] <mg> perhaps your ethernet card has the default route or somethink
[02:21] <mg> -k +g
[02:21] <Giift> How do i start things ive installed with synaptic or installed via terminal?:O
[02:22] <Giift> programs and such
[02:22] <mg> ./<program name>, giift
[02:22] <Mike> I cant post anything,Its on a diffrent comp :(
[02:22] <T0uCH> can anyone help me with a bug i got on Kubuntu... it is closing kopete messenger,  add/remove programs...well almost evyrything.. i dont know what to do
[02:22] <sipior> Giift: well, what sorts of things?
[02:22] <Giift> programs such as my irc client and some other things
[02:22] <Mike> it finds eth0
[02:22] <noesc> epod: It shows that I have 10.00 fps -current and 10.14 fps -average. But only grey picture
[02:22] <jsgotangco> Giift: they usually appear on the menus later on
[02:22] <mg> mike, what says iwconfig?
[02:22] <rga> The Feisty Fawn comes with the installed Beryl?
[02:23] <jsgotangco> rga: it doesn't turn on by default
[02:23] <jrib> Giift: if they are programs with a gui, they should be in your menu, otherwise you need to use the command in the terminal
[02:23] <epod> noesc, odd.  so /dev/video is working, eh?  I don't know why aMSN won't see it, then
[02:23] <mg> mike, is eth0 your ethernet card or your wireless adapter?
[02:23] <epod> noesc, sorry
[02:23] <J_P> hi all
[02:23] <Mike> *eth1 its my wireless adapter,Dont have ethernet on that pc
[02:23] <noesc> epod: in camorama I just get a grey picture, but camorama says that I have fps (its changing a bit so it should be "ok" and not just a fix value)
[02:23] <mg> mike, ok then try iwconfig eth1 scan
[02:23] <Mike> ok
[02:24] <J_P> Ubuntu will stop to support powerpc arch ?  this is true ?
[02:24] <mg> and iwconfig eth1 list
[02:24] <Giift> ok, you think they may appear in the menu after a reboot? Irrsi that is
[02:24] <epod> noesc, ohh, just plain grey, no actual image?
[02:24] <noesc> epod: np, I'll look somewhere else for help ;)
[02:24] <noesc> epod: plain grey
[02:24] <jsgotangco> J_P: the PPC arch will be community supported instead
[02:24] <epod> noesc, yeah, thats not right.  lol
[02:24] <jrib> Giift: irssi is run from the command line
[02:24] <sipior> J_P: so, yes, it's true :)
[02:24] <Mike> It says "Unreconised Wireless Command "Scan" "
[02:24] <noesc> epod: *not really ok* =)
[02:24] <Giift> with ./irrsi
[02:24] <Giift> ?
[02:24] <jrib> Giift: no, just 'irssi' without quotes
[02:24] <Zakman3> hey guys-I'm new to Ubuntu, just installed 6.06 LTS, and the OS is not recognizing my 8139D NIC
[02:24] <sipior> Mike: try "iwlist eth1 scan"
[02:24] <jsgotangco> Giift: just type irssi
[02:24] <Mike> ok
[02:24] <Zakman3> can anyone help?
[02:25] <rga> jsgotangco what I can use for my notebook to locate the nets wireless for gnome?
[02:25] <jsgotangco> J_P: you're better off still using PPC on Dapper
[02:25] <moDumass> g i mean in xp lets say i want gaim to start on login, id drop a link to the app in the "startup" menu. in gnome it seems there is a startup session, but i wouldnt have a clue how to script it
[02:25] <rausb0> Giift: or type: irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[02:25] <|Krooks|> If an IP has a netmask of 255.255.255.255. Can it ping any other host ? And can any other host pings it ?
[02:25] <Mike> "No Scan Results"
[02:25] <jsgotangco> rga: if your card works well, like ipw2200, you can use network manager
[02:25] <jrib> moDumass: nothing to script, you just tell it what program you want to run
[02:26] <noesc> epod: I'll try to find info somewhere else. Everyone is just spamming questions here =) Not easy to help anyone. Thanks for trying at least
[02:26] <jsgotangco> Mike: try iwlist scanning
[02:26] <Mike> type that in?
[02:26] <Mike> iwlist scan?
[02:26] <jsgotangco> Mike: yes
[02:26] <jsgotangco> err scanning
[02:26] <sipior> jsgotangco: i believe he just did that
[02:26] <Mike> ok
[02:26] <jrib> !startup > moDumass    (moDumass, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:26] <J_P> sipior: jsgotangco I think to future.. I would like develop software to cell processor.. and base SO will be ubuntu... or if ubuntu stop, will be debian...
[02:26] <mg> mike, both iwlist scan and iwlist scanning do the same
[02:26] <floating> Hi. I would like to find a terminal, that has an option to choose "open with" when right-clicking a link. Can anyone think of any ?
[02:27] <Mike> interface does not support scanning
[02:27] <jsgotangco> J_P: there is a wiki entry that pertains to Ubuntu on the Cell processor
[02:27] <jsgotangco> Mike: are you using a USB wireless stick?
[02:27] <sipior> Mike: try "ifconfig eth1 up" first, then try scanning again
[02:27] <mg> jsgotangco, yes he ist
[02:27] <J_P> jsgotangco: do you have a link ?
[02:27] <T0uCH> is there anyone who can help me with this :  The application Adept Installer ( but almost all my software ) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)....... i dont know what to do
[02:28] <user____> how do i get rid of a composite manager?
[02:28] <Mike> "Permisson Denied"
[02:28] <jsgotangco> J_P: hold on
[02:28] <sipior> Mike: sorry "sudo ifconfig eth1 up"
[02:28] <sipior> Mike: then type your password when prompted
[02:28] <Zakman3> Hey guys- I'm brand new to Ubuntu. Just installed 6.06 LTS, and it's not recognizing/detecting my Realtek 8139D NIC. Can anyone help with this?
[02:29] <mg> zakman3, not recodnizen a normal realtek ethernet card?
[02:29] <mg> zakman3, somehow i can't really imagine that
[02:29] <epod> noesc, np
[02:29] <Zakman3> yep, not recognizing it, Network Settings shows a "modem connection" but no eth-o
[02:29] <Mike> interface does not support scanning
[02:30] <Zakman3> been googling for quite a while, apparently this is rare, I have no idea how to scan for it or install drivers
[02:30] <mg> zakman3, hmm the network card worked well with another os?
[02:30] <Zakman3> yes, have 3~4 of them working fine with WinXP
[02:30] <sipior> Mike: but there's no error when you type ifconfig eth1 up? you sure there isn't an ethernet cardon that interface?
[02:30] <Mike> Im sure.
[02:30] <Mike> Theres only a USB wlan adapter in it.
[02:30] <sipior> Mike: try "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" and then "sudo iwlist eth0 scan" and see what happens
[02:30] <Zakman3> haven't tried this particular card with XP though
[02:30] <Airwulf> hello to you all
[02:31] <mg> zakman3, hmm it's a pci card isn't it? try pcilist
[02:31] <mg> or no
[02:31] <sorcerer22> hey guys if my speeds going @ 7911 KB/s how much is that mb/s ???couel any one tell me please
[02:31] <Airwulf> how can I remove usb device icons on gnome desktop? gconf-editor?
[02:31] <steven43126> zootm, grep --binary-files=text --only-matching -E '[a-zA-Z.%-] +@[a-zA-Z.%-] +\.gov\.uk'  did the trick ;)
[02:31] <sipior> sorcerer22: 7911/1024
[02:31] <mg> hmm what the name of the command again to list pci interfaces?
[02:31] <jrib> mg: lspci
[02:31] <Pici> mg: lspci
[02:31] <Zakman3> erm- I don't know how to try pcilist. It's my first time on Ubuntu. Device Manager doesn't show it either
[02:32] <mg> ah
[02:32] <sorcerer22> sipior: thanks mate ..
[02:32] <jrib> !icons > Airwulf    (Airwulf, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:32] <jsgotangco> J_P: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343113
[02:32] <mg> zakmen3, type lspci in the command bar
[02:32] <Mike> No scan results
[02:32] <mg> -bar +prompt
[02:32] <Zakman3> how do I access the command terminal?
[02:33] <Zakman3> accessories>terminal?
[02:33] <sorcerer22> does any use screenlets here .. coz i want help with sticky note pad screenlet '??
[02:33] <mg> zakman3, yes
[02:33] <mg> mike, did you configure ndiswrapper in any way?
[02:33] <Mike> Whats ndiswrapper?
[02:33] <mg> mike, like extracting the winxp firmware
[02:33] <sipior> Mike: i'm afraid i see some more googling in your future, friend :) i was serious about upgrading to Feisty by the way, it has better integration with the "network-manager" app, which make wireless a breeze. it comes out later this week, iirc, so if this is a new install, you won't have lost anything...
[02:34] <mg> mike, its a piece of software which emulates the windows ndis interface so that linux can use windows drivers
[02:34] <Mike> I cant download it :S
[02:34] <Mike> Im on dial up.
[02:34] <Zakman3> ok. the last result says "ethernet controller-Unknown Device 1904:2031 (rev o1)
[02:34] <Mike> Ive got windows drivers for it
[02:34] <mg> mike, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51993
[02:34] <Nameless> everybody bb
[02:34] <J_P> jsgotangco: thanks :)
[02:34] <CheesyJedi> how do I get the volume control that's controlled by keyboard shortcuts on my laptop to control a certain track of sound (like PCM, for example)?
[02:35] <pg1ud9fv> hi... When my computer is left idle for a couple of minutes, the fan starts blowing like crazy. I'm suspecting some background process is to blame. How can I track this process down, so I can uninstall it?
[02:35] <sorcerer22> umm guys i have a fat 32 systems which is a apartion i wanna secure it or something can i do this through linux or i have to secure my whole system first?
[02:35] <mg> pg1ud9fv, try running top or something it should tell you
[02:36] <mg> sorcerer22, try truecrypt
[02:36] <Mike> That forum post is confusing
[02:36] <Mike> Where do i put the windows driver?
[02:36] <mg> mike, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=125627 <-- and how to generally extract the windows driver for ndiswrapper
[02:36] <mg> mike, somewhere you want
[02:36] <Zakman3> mg: the last result says "ethernet controller-unknown device 1904:2031 (rev 01)" on lspci
[02:37] <sorcerer22> mg: umm trucrypt .. what does it to is is a encrytion software for linux whic mean you want me to encrypt everything on that system ?
[02:37] <covracer> I installed the latest server version of ubuntu but am disappointed to find out I can't compile my uncommon, but linux-supported usb wireless stick drivers because make isn't on the machine. How can I get make on there without a usb thumb drive?
[02:38] <pg1ud9fv> mg: thanks
[02:38] <J_P> with stop development ubuntu to powerpc much sites and effort will be stop, like as psubuntu.com and others... :-(
[02:38] <covracer> I mean with a usb thumb drive but no Internet connection.
[02:38] <mg> zakman3, hmm i don't know that realtek device but generally they don't make problems. perhaps you can try another card
[02:38] <Hobbsee> covracer: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[02:38] <Hobbsee> covracer: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:38] <mg> sorcerer22, depends on what you want to do
[02:38] <covracer> Hobbsee: Sorry I meant with a usb thumb drive but without an Internet connection.
[02:39] <Hobbsee> covracer: it's on the cd
[02:39] <Zakman3> mg: I have checked lib/modules/kernel/net and there is no folder that says 8139D either
[02:39] <mg> realtek 8139 you have?
[02:39] <Zakman3> yes
[02:40] <mg> mom i have two of them running in my router
[02:40] <mg> if i don't mix something up
[02:40] <covracer> Hobbsee: Oh awesome! I'm too used to Internet-dependant Gentoo ;).
[02:40] <Hobbsee> covracer: :D
[02:41] <dheyo> hi
[02:41] <mg> zakman3, yes the same one is running fine for my
[02:41] <albert> i'm running ubuntu feisty with fluxbox and my safe-file window is with mousepad or abiword is flickering very fast
[02:41] <dheyo> i need some help editing grub
[02:41] <J_P> "It is possible that PowerPC will once again become a fully supported architecture in the future, if the resources needed to guarantee its quality are found. The architecture is certainly gaining large numbers of users in embedded and console devices, and there are many reasons to continue to work with the platform."
[02:41] <mg> zakman3, try so search for a driver named 8139too
[02:41] <Zakman3> mg: apparently the system is seeing that it's there but it's not recognizing it ...how do I add an appropriate driver to the system?
[02:41] <CheesyJedi> how do I get the volume control that's controlled by keyboard shortcuts on my laptop to control a certain track of sound (like PCM, for example)?
[02:41] <sorcerer22> whats #amorok .. on what server ?
[02:41] <Zakman3> where do you suggest I search for the driver?
[02:42] <mg> dheyo, http://www.gentoo.de/doc/de/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10
[02:42] <dheyo> mg: thanks
[02:42] <kritzstapf> CheesyJedi, i'd like to know that too :/
[02:42] <mg> zakman3, hmm good question *g*
[02:42] <Zakman3> :-)
[02:42] <mg> zakman3, i'm new to ubuntu, too i'm a gentoo user wait a moment
[02:42] <dheyo> mg: its iz not in engliz
[02:43] <CheesyJedi> kritzstapf: ya? what problem are you having?
[02:43] <Zakman3> mg: sure thing!
[02:43] <kritzstapf> CheesyJedi, the problem that i cant figure out how to configure this little applet..
[02:43] <CheesyJedi> ya
[02:43] <dheyo> i want to make windows my default os, i m using grub
[02:43] <mg> dheyo, sorry http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10
[02:43] <CheesyJedi> kritzstapf: me too
[02:44] <kritzstapf> its not using the settings of the gnome-panel volume control
[02:44] <mg> zakman3, 8139too is a common standard driver it should be installed
[02:44] <smok3> how to run *.sh installer?
[02:44] <CheesyJedi> how do you set programs to be used as default when you open certain files
[02:44] <kritzstapf> smok3, chmod +x foo.sh && ./foo.sh
[02:44] <CheesyJedi> like, how do you make mplayer open automatically instead of totem player?
[02:44] <Zakman3> mg: yes, I agree it should be, but for some strange reason it's not :(
[02:44] <kritzstapf> or just sh foo.sh should work also
[02:44] <mg> zakman3, really try another card. they are ceap produced (you can buy them for 3ois/each) so it's quite possible that its broken
[02:44] <Ace2016> Hi all
[02:45] <pse> Hi! I'd like to know the differences between the ubuntu server and desktop edition.. is it only LAMP? The server edition didn't work getting this error: "codec_read: codec 0 is not valid [0xfe0000] " so I'm thinking of changing to desktop edition and installing LAMP manually.
[02:45] <mg> zakman3, or perhaps your pci slot is broken or something. i had that once with a soundcard. just put it in another slot and it worked fine
[02:45] <Ace2016> was ubuntu really started in 2004?
[02:45] <mg> ace2016, trust wikipedia
[02:45] <koriel> I'm trying to setup a vnc4server in my ubuntu box...and running /etc/init.d/xinetd start doesn't fire up Xvnc...anyone can help?
[02:45] <bob_> hello, is there a way to download a .deb packge with all the dependencies on my edgy comp but for feisty version, and put them in a folder for later use on another comp?
[02:46] <davisc> Ace2016: Sounds about right
[02:46] <Zakman3> mg: I tried it on two slots- no luck
[02:46] <Zakman3> buying another card is next option, but lspci does show that this card is there, just that there's no driver for it
[02:46] <Zakman3> so I'm doubtful the card is broken :/
[02:46] <mg> zakman3, ok then try this:
[02:46] <dheyo> how do it edit the grub config file,
[02:46] <mg> zakman3, just to make sure it isn't robken
[02:46] <Ace2016> i saw it on a linux timeline, but yea wikipedia was more exact
[02:47] <mg> dheyo, just with any editor you want
[02:47] <davisc> bob_: apt-get clean;  apt-get -d install blah and then copy the debs over from /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:47] <ReyDelSillon> I recently instaled ubuntu on my satadisk. the satadisk has another partition with the xp OS. as far i can see the partition is mounted but inside the disk theres only 1 folder named "lost+found" and no files. How can i access the partition and rescue some important files?
[02:47] <davisc> bob_: Note that this will remove any cached debs you already have
[02:47] <dheyo> all i know how to use is the abi wordprocesor
[02:47] <Ace2016> Why did ubuntu start with version 4.10? why not version 1?
[02:47] <jrib> Ace2016: 2004 october
[02:47] <mg> dheyo, better use gedit or something
[02:48] <bob_> davisc: i'm running apt-cacher here and other comps on the network use it's cache
[02:48] <bob_> davisc: will apt-get clean break things for others?
[02:48] <dheyo> mg: how do it do it?
[02:48] <dheyo> :(
[02:48] <Ace2016> omg i only just realised that it was named after the date not just random version numbers
[02:48] <Zakman3> mg: what should I try?
[02:48] <IceWeaSeL> fuck you bill gates :D
[02:48] <davisc> bob_: Well, you could just apt-get -d install blah and then figure out which ones were just downloaded and copy them
[02:48] <mg> zakman3 see query
[02:48] <jrib> !language | IceWeaSeL
[02:48] <ubotu> IceWeaSeL: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:48] <IdleOne> !ohmy | IceWeaSeL
[02:49] <davisc> bob_: It's won't *break* anything - just means the debs will have to be retrived again
[02:49] <bob_> davisc: but i need feisty packages and i run edgy here
[02:49] <Zakman3> I'm sorry- what query?
[02:49] <mg> dhayo, gedit is bundled with ubuntu just search under tools or something for it
[02:49] <davisc> bob_: Ah. Right
[02:49] <bob_> davisc: is there any way doing it without messing with sources.list?
[02:49] <mg> zakman3, irc query ^^
[02:50] <davisc> bob_: You could lookup the package and then download the package and dependency debs 1 by 1
[02:50] <Zakman3> I'm new to IRC too :$. Nothing is popping up on my screen, what should I do?
[02:50] <bob_> davisc: this is what i want to avoid :)
[02:50] <IdleOne> !register | Zakman3
[02:50] <ubotu> Zakman3: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:50] <ReyDelSillon> I recently instaled ubuntu on my satadisk. the satadisk has another partition with the xp OS. as far i can see the partition is mounted but inside the disk theres only 1 folder named "lost+found" and no files. How can i access the partition and rescue some important files?
[02:50] <mg> zakman3: http://rafb.net/p/b4ERuc13.html
[02:50] <davisc> bob_: If you use apt, it'll mess up because you don't have *any* feisty packages installed on the machine
[02:51] <mg> just to make sure he card isn't broken
[02:51] <Mike212> Stupid XP
[02:51] <Mike212> Can someone send me the links they sent me to setup my WG111?
[02:51] <bob_> davisc: i see. ok 'll try to find a solution
[02:52] <Zakman3> mg: I have no idea what in Heaven's name that means but I'm trying it *g*
[02:52] <davisc> bob_: There could well be switches for apt that'll help or even some package out there that will do it for you but I don't know of them
[02:52] <Mike212> Please :)
[02:53] <pimpnasty> how do I end firefox process xkill -firefox   ?
[02:54] <shedman> I have a question regarding Ubuntu
[02:54] <Mike212> ?
[02:54] <pimpnasty>  how do I end firefox process xkill -firefox
[02:54] <Spitfireleet> pimpnasty: I guess that works or just use xkill and just kill firefox with an AK-47
[02:54] <^^kalm> yeah... or just
[02:54] <pimpnasty> hah aokay
[02:54] <^^kalm> killall firefox
[02:54] <ReyDelSillon> I recently instaled ubuntu on my satadisk. the satadisk has another partition with the xp OS. as far i can see the partition is mounted but inside the disk theres only 1 folder named "lost+found" and no files. How can i access the partition and rescue some important files?
[02:54] <Ace2016> hi all
[02:54] <Ace2016>  anyone know how i can turn my current running system with all its packages into a live CD?
[02:54] <Jaikkanen> hi guys, can someone please tell me how to open a directory in a browsing window, from the terminal
[02:54] <pimpnasty> anyone play css here ?
[02:54] <ReyDelSillon> shedman: dont aks to ask. just ask :)
[02:54] <mg> mike212, just read you into the ndiswrapper man pages and howtos
[02:55] <jrib> ^^kalm: firefox-bin in that case
[02:55] <Mike212> Yeah them,My PC Blue Screened, I cant find the links.
[02:55] <shedman> jaik, it's cd to change directory and mkdir to create a new one
[02:55] <^^kalm> meh, firefox alone works for me 0_0
[02:55] <jenda> 6
[02:55] <Jaikkanen> shedman: "open a directory in a BROWSING window"
[02:55] <andre> hello
[02:55] <andre> hello room
[02:55] <^^kalm> hello andre
[02:56] <CheesyJedi> how do I get the volume control that's controlled by keyboard shortcuts on my laptop to control a certain track of sound (like PCM, for example)?
[02:56] <shedman> ahh I see now, in that case I don't
[02:56] <andre> kal0, hello
[02:56] <Mike212> :(
[02:56] <andre> sorry kalm
[02:56] <Jaikkanen> shedman: np.. oh, and what is the command to list all the exsisting directorys?
[02:57] <mg> bye i've to go to school
[02:57] <smok3> kritzstapf: tnx, iam slowly geting someplace
[02:57] <shedman> does anyone know how I can get my CPU and hard disk usage displayed permanently on the desktop?
[02:57] <reazn> Jaikkanen, try ls
[02:57] <Spitfireleet> ls just lists whats in a directory
[02:57] <smok3> so another question, how to add new repository link in ubuntu?
[02:57] <reazn> shedman, try a program called gDesklets
[02:58] <Jaikkanen> thanks guys
[02:58] <smok3> trying to install jahshaka
[02:58] <Mike212> How do I use ndiswrapper? :S
[02:58] <andre> how would i get xine to play dvd i installed libdvdcss2 but it gives me a no muermixer cant read the format any sugestion to were i should go for the files?
[02:58] <^^kalm> ndiswrapper?
[02:58] <Mike212> Ill pay someone if they get it working :D
[02:58] <pg1ud9fv> How do I uninstall the beagled daemon?
[02:59] <Luxurious> Mike212: Yes, Linux does that to you sometimes :-)
[02:59] <Mike212> :S
[02:59] <shedman> thanks reazn
[02:59] <reazn> nps
[02:59] <Luxurious> Especially in relation to wireless networking.
[03:00] <Mike212> Im a newbie to linux and I just want to get on MSN and the net :(
[03:00] <^^kalm> Mike212: are you trying to get a driver to work on it? Do you have a wireless card WORKING on Windows XP?
[03:00] <Mike212> Its a wireless USB one and it works on XP
[03:00] <Mike212> I dont know how to get it to work on linux
[03:00] <Luxurious> What type is it Mike212 ?
[03:00] <Mike212> WG111
[03:00] <^^kalm> first have you installed ndiswrapper?
[03:00] <Mike212> (netgear)
[03:00] <Luxurious> Okay
[03:00] <Mike212> no :S
[03:00] <Mike212> I dont kno whow.
[03:00] <^^kalm> ok
[03:01] <brucevdkooij> I'm using Edgy Eft (GNOME as WM) and the system feels rather unresponsive, can anybody verify? For details (e.g. system specs) see: http://questions.parsed.nl/ubuntu/ubuntu_responsiveness_details.txt
[03:01] <^^kalm> install ndiswrapper by typing this into your terminal: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[03:01] <Spitfireleet> Mike212: System > Preferences > Network
[03:01] <Mike212> Thank you
[03:02] <^^kalm> after that
[03:02] <Mike212> Does it download anything?
[03:02] <^^kalm> no... except the ndiswrapper program
[03:02] <aoeu_> Anyone here who uses conkeror?
[03:02] <Mike212> I have no internet connection on that PC.
[03:02] <^^kalm> right...
[03:02] <^^kalm> hmmm
[03:03] <aoeu_> My bookmark view is not so userfriendly, all the catalogs are gone in conkeror
[03:03] <^^kalm> have you got an USB key?
[03:03] <Mike212> Memory Stick? Yeah 1GB
[03:04] <^^kalm> and what ubuntu do you have?
[03:04] <Mike212> 6.06 I think
[03:04] <^^kalm> hmm... just wait a sec
[03:04] <Mike212> ok
[03:05] <^^kalm> Ubuntu 6.06 doesn't have the necessary build files needed to build ndiswrapper from source... and since you dont have internet on that computer to install those, that idea is out the window :D
[03:05] <Mike212> :S
[03:05] <Mike212> So i wont be able to use my wlan?:'(
[03:05] <^^kalm> just wait
[03:06] <Mike212> ok
[03:07] <Khisanth> use the sneakernet instead :P
[03:07] <Mike212> :S
[03:08] <^^kalm> Mike212: What im trying is to find a .deb package of Ndiswrapper to transfer to your other computer via the USB key
[03:09] <Mike212> Ok
[03:09] <Mike212> .deb like .zip?
[03:09] <shawn34> not really
[03:09] <shawn34> but kinda lol
[03:09] <shawn34> tar like zip
[03:09] <shawn34> .deb like .msi
[03:09] <Mike212> Ahh ok :)
[03:09] <^^kalm> Mike212: not really, you'll see...
[03:09] <Joseaa> Hello, can anyone tell me how to start apache server ?
[03:09] <shawn34> .deb like exe installer
[03:10] <Joseaa> sudo etc/init.d/apache2 restart gives command not found error
[03:10] <Mike212> shawn34, Thanks :p
[03:10] <yellow_chicken> which is a good app to crop pictures?
[03:10] <shawn34> yellow_chicken: just crop? if you want more go for GIMP
[03:10] <Joseaa> anyone ?
[03:11] <yellow_chicken> shawn34: just crop, think GIMP is over kill
[03:11] <brucevdkooij> Joseaa, /etc?
[03:12] <Mike212> brb,I need some lunch =/
[03:12] <YogSothoth> Hi
[03:13] <YogSothoth> I installed firefox and mozilla-livehttpheaders packages and I can't see the Live HTTP Headers tool in Firefox (2.0.0.3 on Ubuntu Feisty Beta). Is it normal?
[03:13] <Mike212> Back.
[03:13] <Mike212> Couldn't one of you downlod ndiswrapper from the place and just upload it again?
[03:14] <YogSothoth> wow, one minute lunch :)
[03:14] <Mike212> lol,i make sandwhichs fast.
[03:14] <YogSothoth> and you are very dependent on computer :D
[03:14] <Mike212> :P
[03:14] <Mike212> I dont leave my baby alone for a minuite
[03:14] <YogSothoth> ooh so cuuute
[03:14] <Mike212> lol
[03:15] <YogSothoth> pooor baby lappy
[03:15] <Mike212> and im watching my torrents :P
[03:15] <Mike212> Its a desktop ;)
[03:15] <brucevdkooij> think I might just post to ubuntuforums.org...
[03:15] <^^kalm> ok Mike212, go to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndiswrapper/ and download the ndiswrapper-common
[03:15] <YogSothoth> btw, any clue why I'm missing my little baby livehttpheaders?
[03:15] <^^kalm> transfer that file to your usb stick, and from that to your other pc... and install
[03:16] <Mike212> done.
[03:16] <Mike212> ok
[03:16] <brucevdkooij> YogSothoth, you could always install the XPI instead of using apt to manage it?
[03:16] <Mike212> Does ubuntu reconise my usb stick automagically?
[03:16] <steven43126> IS there anyway to keep evolution in sync ie i have evolution at work + home + laptop, how can i sync all three ?
[03:16] <IdleOne> Mike212, plug it in and see
[03:16] <yellow_chicken> shawn34: you know which app can do that?
[03:16] <^^kalm> it should... if it doesnt come back here :(
[03:16] <^^kalm> :) *
[03:17] <Mike212> ok
[03:17] <YogSothoth> well yes brucevdkooij, but I wonder if this is not a bug that should be reported
[03:18] <^^kalm> Mike212: i hope it doesn't have any necessary dependancies :/ i use a native linux driver, so... i dont know much about ndiswrapper :D
[03:19] <^^kalm> is anyone here finding the Ubuntu 7.04b a little slow ?
[03:19] <Mike212>  Nope,hasnt found it when I goto computer.
[03:20] <^^kalm> Mike212: you mean your computer cant see the usb stick?
[03:20] <Mike212> I goto computer (application thing) and its not there
[03:20] <^^kalm> Mike212: Try this then. do mkdir /mnt/sda1
[03:21] <^^kalm> then mount -t vfat -o rw,user,auto /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[03:21] <Mike212> :O
[03:21] <^^kalm> ?
[03:21] <^^kalm> just copy and paste it into your terminal :P
[03:22] <Mike212> I cant :(
[03:22] <^^kalm> what do you mean?
[03:22] <^^kalm> it doesnt work? or you cant do it?
[03:22] <brucevdkooij> ^^kalm: I'm using Edgy (6.10) and it's not snappy at all, but that's not Feisty.
[03:23] <Mike212> Sorry was it mount -t u fat
[03:23] <Mike212> *?
[03:23] <^^kalm> yeah but Mike212, do what i just wrote up there
[03:23] <^^kalm> see if it works
[03:23] <Mike212> No mouse on this pc XD
[03:23] <^^kalm> XD
[03:24] <Mike212> Ive one mouse short,SO i have to keep swapping them between PC's
[03:24] <^^kalm> haha...
[03:24] <brucevdkooij> YogSothoth, is the package in the repository for livehttpheaders even compatible with the latest version of Firefox?
[03:25] <^^kalm> ive got 2 usb mice.. one a $20 Microsoft optical, and the other is a Wireless Logitech Optical... without batteries
[03:25] <jessid> hello. Some of you could tell if there exists some version of JDK6 for linux, running in a 64 bits processor?
[03:25] <^^kalm> oh and an old apple ball mouse :P
[03:25] <jessid> !jdk
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <Pici> !java
[03:25] <jessid> !java
[03:25] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:26] <YogSothoth> brucevdkooij, I just installed from xpi and it works. I'll check for the version packaged for Feisty
[03:26] <^^kalm> Mike212: How are you doing?
[03:26] <Mike212> "Only root can do that" :(
[03:26] <Mike212> I dont have plants growing in my PC :S
[03:26] <^^kalm> ok im sorry
[03:26] <yellow_chicken> !dvd
[03:26] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:26] <Mike212> do i put sodu before it?
[03:26] <^^kalm> Mike212: do this then... sudo mount -t vfat -o rw,user,auto /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[03:26] <brucevdkooij> YogSothoth, well I can tell you that it's not the question for Edgy (livehttpheaders 0.12 is not compatible with 2.0 >). I don't even know why they're creating packages for these extensions.
[03:26] <Mike212> ok
[03:26] <pokoko> heh
[03:27] <pokoko> Mike212, go to your garden and get some root
[03:27] <^^kalm> (i forgot, i never use sudo :P i go su completely )
[03:27] <Mike212> :P
[03:27] <Mike212> It says it does not exsist
[03:27] <mtc> Is Ubuntu Servere edition a 'out of the box' functioning web and ftp server?
[03:27] <^^kalm> lol finding the ndiswrapper.deb was a pain :P
[03:28] <Mike212> shall i just burn it to a cd instead?
[03:28] <YogSothoth> brucevdkooij, well they seem up to date with Feisty: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/feisty/web/mozilla-livehttpheaders
[03:28] <^^kalm> Mike212: really? go to your /dev directory and run ls
[03:28] <Mike212> :S
[03:28] <YogSothoth> 0.13.1 is the latest and is ok for 2.0.0.3 (I'm running it)
[03:28] <Mike212> You've said a bunch of stuff i dont know,Sorry.
[03:28] <^^kalm> it might be sda, sda1, sdb, sdb1, sdc, sdc1, etc etc
[03:29] <Mike212> ok
[03:29] <Mike212> So how do i find out which one it is?
[03:29] <brucevdkooij> YogSothoth, what do you mean "they seem up to date"?
[03:29] <andres> #ubuntu-es
[03:29] <^^kalm> Mike212: in your terminal, type: ls /dev/
[03:29] <Mike212> ok
[03:29] <^^kalm> and see if any of those is there
[03:30] <pirothezero> maybe itd be better if he said which ones were
[03:30] <YogSothoth> brucevdkooij, I meant, the mainteners of mozilla-livehttpheaders are up to date for the version for Feisty
[03:30] <brucevdkooij> YogSothoth, once you install the package do you see it in your extensions/add ons list?
[03:30] <Mike212> "Command Is not found"
[03:30] <YogSothoth> brucevdkooij, nop
[03:30] <oldude67> can anyone tell me how to get the file i downloaded of jave to install?
[03:30] <^^kalm> ls
[03:30] <^^kalm> L
[03:30] <Mike212> Ohh right xD
[03:30] <^^kalm> :P
[03:30] <mtc> Is Ubuntu Server edition an 'out of the box' functioning web and ftp server?
[03:31] <^^kalm> mtc: youd think so, eh?
[03:31] <mtc> Server defines a lot of things
[03:31] <Mike212> What am i ment to be looking for? lots of text came up
[03:32] <^^kalm> ok im sorry... do this: ls /dev/s*
[03:32] <mtc> is there a dedicated IRC for Ubuntu Server edition
[03:32] <Mike212> and its ment to come up with SDA somthing right?
[03:32] <^^kalm> !ubuntu server
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <ViennaLi2ux> packet openvpn missing in feisty repository !!!
[03:32] <pirothezero>  #ubuntu-server
[03:33] <^^kalm> yeah sda, sda1, sdb, sdb1, sdc, sd1
[03:33] <Mike212> shm?
[03:33] <Mike212> snd?
[03:33] <^^kalm> is your memory stick formatted to FAT anyway? :P
[03:33] <Mike212> thats the only two ones which have come up with 3 letters
[03:33] <Mike212> Yup!
[03:33] <Mike212> ill just burn it to a cd,its easier :p
[03:34] <^^kalm> hmm... yeah
[03:34] <Mike212> got a spindle of 100 here,So its all good :P
[03:34] <^^kalm> hehe...
[03:34] <^^kalm> i have no trouble getting my usb's to work, so :) no experience in tinkering why they wouldn't
[03:35] <Rebecca> hey peoples. does anyone know a make/model of USB webcam that reliably works under ubuntu?
[03:35] <Mike212> Meh :P
[03:35] <Mike212> Thats not that important
[03:35] <IdleOne> !camera
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <Mike212> Im screwed without internet =?
[03:36] <^^kalm> well anyway... AFTER you burned the *.deb file to your CD and transferred it to your other PC/Laptop... tell me
[03:36] <drbreen> hello
[03:37] <YogSothoth> brucevdkooij, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2462063#post2462063
[03:37] <drbreen> i have a problem: i have an ltsp setup with ubuntu 6.06 and my users are complaining about english keyboards being default
[03:37] <drbreen> where can i change taht ?
[03:37] <pirothezero> anyone know of a way in gome to set the view of a folder and all its sub folders to list?
[03:37] <pirothezero> like in windows
[03:37] <aokmanga> can someone help me??
[03:37] <aokmanga> the latest feisty kernel doesn't work to me
[03:38] <^^kalm> aokmanga: then downgrade/upgrade it
[03:38] <aokmanga> it gives me a message like this
[03:38] <aokmanga> BUG: scheduling while atomic
[03:38] <Mike212> Done and installed :D
[03:38] <aokmanga> e the system crash
[03:38] <^^kalm> installed?
[03:38] <Mike212> yup
[03:38] <aokmanga> and
[03:38] <Pici> !enter
[03:38] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:38] <Waldoss> @enter
[03:38] <^^kalm> Mike212: ok now do ndisrapper --help
[03:38] <Waldoss> !enter
[03:38] <Mike212> in termnial?
[03:39] <aokmanga> sorry :)
[03:39] <^^kalm> yes, and find your .inf file for the driver
[03:39] <Mike212> No versions of ndiswrapper found :S
[03:39] <Mike212> The inf is on a cd,Gotta find that :P
[03:40] <^^kalm> im not completely sure, but for example if i installed the ndiswrapper using MY setup, id do... ndiswrapper -i /media/hda1/Program\ Files/Belkin/*/rt61.inf
[03:40] <Mike212> how would i do it from a CD?
[03:40] <^^kalm> .inf should be on the Windows partition
[03:40] <Mike212> theres no windows partiton on that comp
[03:41] <retarded> :( i broke the kernel or something
[03:41] <^^kalm> Im not sure if it works from a CD... :(
[03:41] <Mike212> :(
[03:41] <Mike212> We can try
[03:41] <Mike212> Or i can copy files across
[03:41] <retarded> i cant boot from the 6.11 but i can from the 6.10
[03:41] <^^kalm> hmm..
[03:42] <jmvidalvia> hi everybody: I am setting a server at home (3 laptops) and will try to install squid, but I still d'ont understand what "transparent" proxy means
[03:42] <Mike212> People can still you see your IP address
[03:43] <Mike212> A Transparent Proxy is a AAA server that satisfies the definition of a Proxy, but does not enforce any local policies (meaning that it does not add, delete or modify attributes or modify information within messages it forwards).
[03:44] <Mike212> Found my cd
[03:44] <Mike212> What could i type into terminal?
[03:44] <jmvidalvia> I see: I'm just trying to install dansguardian for my kids: should my proxy be transparent?
[03:44] <Waldoss> beer
[03:44] <aboyousif> is avahi the proper tool to acces virtualhosts from another machine in LAN ?
[03:44] <^^kalm> Mike212: you COULD try, (i assume your CD is mounted in /media/cdrom0) so: mkdir ~/wifi_driver [enter]  sudo cp -R /media/cdrom0/* /home/(insert_your_username)/wifi_driver/
[03:44] <Waldoss> yes
[03:44] <Mike212> Are you kids bright at pC's:p
[03:44] <stepanstas> Is there a way to get my scroll weel
[03:45] <^^kalm> im 16 (soon to be 17) so take what you want from that
[03:45] <jmvidalvia> Mike212: they are 11 and 8 years old, so it's a matter of time
[03:45] <stepanstas> To show that thing and when you move your mouse the page scrolls?
[03:45] <Mike212> Keep it transparent for now.
[03:46] <Mike212> ok im gunna try the CD thing
[03:46] <aboyousif> how could i do that ? installed avahi and get the 2 interfaces and set up a virtual host but i couldn't access it from another machine
[03:46] <^^kalm> Mike212: did you do what i said?
[03:46] <Mike212> I have no idea, im new to linux xD
[03:46] <Mike212> i just know netowrk
[03:46] <^^kalm> Mike212: you COULD try, (i assume your CD is mounted in /media/cdrom0) so: mkdir ~/wifi_driver [enter]  sudo cp -R /media/cdrom0/* /home/(insert_your_username)/wifi_driver/
[03:46] <Mike212> kalm: trying it now
[03:47] <Mike212> enter after cdrom0/* ?
[03:47] <^^kalm> ls ~/wifi_driver/
[03:47] <^^kalm> Mike212: is there anythin in that folder
[03:47] <^^kalm> no Mike212
[03:47] <jmvidalvia> last question: how are banned ip list frpm Dansguardian filled and how can you upgrade them? i suppose you d'ont have to fill them by hand!
[03:48] <^^kalm> this is one command: sudo cp -R /media/cdrom0/* /home/(insert_your_username)/wifi_driver/
[03:48] <Mike212> ok
[03:48] <stepanstas> Why does the scroll wheel have no function on click?
[03:48] <^^kalm> there is a space between * and /home
[03:48] <duaneb> hey, where's all my documentation?
[03:48] <Mike212> kk :)
[03:48] <duaneb> I've installed build-essential and stuff
[03:48] <duaneb> but simple stuff like 'man fopen' or 'man malloc' have nothing
[03:49] <duaneb> how can i install it?
[03:49] <^^kalm> duaneb: if "man" doesnt work, sometimes ive found those in "info"
[03:49] <duaneb> kalm: not there either
[03:50] <duaneb> hrm
[03:50] <walking> hola, alguien podra ayudarme a instalar ubuntu en un disco duro externo?
[03:50] <stepanstas> Why is there no function when i press the scroll wheel in my mouse in Linux?
[03:50] <^^kalm> duaneb: well sorry, youll have to poke around :)
[03:50] <duaneb> libc-doc doesn't exist
[03:50] <walking> someone speak spanish?
[03:50] <Mike212> cp option invalid :S
[03:51] <^^kalm> stepanstas: Your Xconfig file doesnt know that your mouse has a wheel
[03:51] <Mike212> Did i type somthing wrong then?
[03:51] <pokoko> duaneb, you can find the man pages for fopen( ) malloc( )  @ http://www.opengroup.org/search/
[03:51] <^^kalm> Mike212: ????
[03:51] <Mike212> it says invalid option cp
[03:51] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: Can you help me config it or something?
[03:51] <walking> Do you speak spanish???
[03:51] <duaneb> pokoko: I know I can get them online, but I'm VERY rarely connected to the internet
[03:51] <duaneb> so I want them on my computer locally
[03:51] <pokoko> duaneb, ahh..
[03:52] <pokoko> duaneb, there's a package. wait up
[03:52] <Mike212> i typed in mkdir ~/wifi_driver [enter]  Sudo cp -R/media/cdrom0/* /home/mike/wifi_driver
[03:52] <Mike212> Thats right?
[03:52] <^^kalm> Mike212: the [enter]  was just a thing to... press before doing the cp thing...
[03:52] <Mike212> I didn't type it in
[03:52] <Mike212> thats why i put it in [] 
[03:53] <duaneb> :P
[03:53] <Mike212> Im not that retarded
[03:53] <^^kalm> :) good
[03:53] <duaneb> Mike: you'd be surprised about some people
[03:53] <Mike212> lol.
[03:53] <MTecknology> Good morning
[03:53] <walking> i want to install ubuntu in a external hard disk, but I don't know how i can do. I'm in the live ubuntu  and I have the icon of install. I'm trying to change the space of my HD, but ubuntu said that he can't
[03:53] <duaneb> morning
[03:53] <Mike212> Im getting microsoft certified in the next year, Im not that retarded ^_^
[03:54] <^^kalm> stespanstas: theres a command for an easy x configuration
[03:54] <duaneb> And you're on ubuntu? :0
[03:54] <pokoko> duaneb, glibc-doc-reference
[03:54] <duaneb> thanks
[03:54] <h3x0r_> hey how i compiler OpenGL with GCC ?
[03:54] <pokoko> duaneb, that's the package you need
[03:54] <pokoko> n
[03:54] <pokoko> np
[03:54] <Mike212> Yeah,XP anoys me :p
[03:54] <ken> hello
[03:54] <Mike212> Crashes too much,Tooo virusy and too blue.
[03:54] <walking> anyone can help me??
[03:54] <^^kalm> Mike212: ok i dont understand that your PC wouldnt have the command "cp"
[03:54] <Mike212> :S
[03:54] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: Whats the command?
[03:54] <Mike212> It said the option was invalid
[03:55] <pokoko> !ask | walking
[03:55] <ubotu> walking: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:55] <Mike212> cp -R
[03:55] <h3x> is there a way of writing openGL programs in GNU >
[03:55] <^^kalm> Mike212: then try cp -r
[03:55] <pokoko> h3x, yes
[03:55] <Mike212> k
[03:55] <pokoko> h3x, download openGL library and link it in your code
[03:55] <noesc> Anyone available to help me with my wireless network? please query me then, easier to talk then =)
[03:55] <duaneb> pokoko: no :(
[03:56] <pokoko> duaneb, what do you mean no ?
[03:56] <duaneb> it selects glibc-doc instead
[03:56] <Mike212> Still invalid option?
[03:56] <duaneb> and that's apparently already installed
[03:56] <duaneb> I think it IS installed
[03:56] <duaneb> and my computer's messed up
[03:56] <duaneb> thanks though :)
[03:56] <pokoko> duaneb, what does "info fopen" do ?
[03:56] <duaneb> brings me to the main info page
[03:56] <^^kalm> Mike212: *sigh* then just remove the -r option alltogether and see if it works without it :)
[03:56] <pokoko> duaneb, probably your manpath is incorrect.
[03:56] <Mike212> ok :)
[03:57] <pokoko> duaneb, man & info needs to know where to look for the manual on fopen()
[03:57] <h3x> pokoko: by link you just mean include the neccessary include files ??
[03:57] <Mike212> it omitted all the directorys :S
[03:57] <Mike212> is that good?
[03:57] <^^kalm> Mike212: i thought so, and no, its not good
[03:57] <duaneb> agai
[03:57] <duaneb> ahah*
[03:58] <duaneb> pokoko: gcc-doc
[03:58] <Mike212> Damn.
[03:58] <duaneb> that did it
[03:58] <Mike212> Cant i just copy them all across to somewhere?
[03:58] <pokoko> duaneb, heh. yeah.
[03:58] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: Whats the command for an easy x configuration?
[03:58] <^^kalm> Mike212: try: sudo cp /media/cdrom0/* /home/(insert_your_username)/wifi_driver/ --force
[03:58] <duaneb> thanks
[03:58] <Mike212> I know which bits of the CD are drivers
[03:58] <Mike212> ok
[03:58] <pokoko> duaneb, geez.
[03:58] <^^kalm> stepanstas: im trying to find it
[03:59] <nofxx> Hello, I want to start synergy in the login screen ... in what file should I put the command?
[03:59] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: K, thanks
[04:00] <^^kalm> stepanstas: try this, go to /etc/X11 and edit make a backup of xorg.conf
[04:00] <tony_ubuntu_newb> I need help with my floppy.
[04:01] <Mike212> ommited them all again :S
[04:01] <^^kalm> stepanstas: like: cp xorg.conf xorg.conf_BACKUP
[04:01] <^^kalm> omitted?
[04:01] <^^kalm> aaaaaaargh
[04:02] <^^kalm> if it doesnt work with the -R option it doesnt work at all..!
[04:02] <Mike212> Why cant I copy it all myself?
[04:02] <^^kalm> then just open cdrom0 in nautilus and copy the damn files over the non-console way! :P
[04:02] <Mike212> nautilus?:p
[04:03] <^^kalm> Mike212: the file manager, a.k.a "home"
[04:03] <Mike212> ok
[04:03] <sponge_bob> is there a way I can set a command at startup
[04:03] <sponge_bob> ?
[04:03] <^^kalm> stepanstas: did you do it?
[04:03] <nofxx> sponge_bob: wanna know that too....
[04:04] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: Done
[04:04] <sponge_bob> I keep having to type in a command to get one of my network interfaces up
[04:04] <sponge_bob> well one of them
[04:04] <sponge_bob> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:05] <Mike212> Done :D
[04:05] <sponge_bob> thats the command I have to type to get my wifi running after every boot
[04:05] <sponge_bob> can some please help?
[04:06] <mike> So what now? ndiswrapper?
[04:06] <bulmer> sponge_bob: can you try adding ndiswrapper on the /etc/modules and see if it makes a difference?
[04:06] <sponge_bob> ok
[04:06] <bulmer> wait, those are kernel modules..
[04:06] <sponge_bob> ok
[04:06] <bulmer> but try anyways, maybe it will take it
[04:06] <mike> kalm? What now?
[04:06] <^^kalm> stepanstas: now do "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and find "input devices" and "Configured Mouse"
[04:07] <bulmer> no guarantee though
[04:07] <^^kalm> mike: does ndiswrapper command work?
[04:07] <timparkin_> d
[04:07] <timparkin_> quit
[04:07] <timparkin_> \q
[04:07] <seravitae> hm what can i use in ubuntu to cut a segment out of a video?
[04:07] <mike> Which command?
[04:07] <^^kalm> mike: then find the *.inf file in the ~/wifi_driver/
[04:07] <mike> ok
[04:07] <seravitae> actually hmm maybe i'll just take it all in
[04:07] <mike> found it
[04:07] <^^kalm> mike: ndiswrapper, in console
[04:07] <mike> ok
[04:08] <mike> just type in ndiswrapper?
[04:08] <^^kalm> mike: yea
[04:08] <mike> k
[04:08] <sponge_bob> bulmer, ok I have that file open with gedit
[04:08] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: done
[04:08] <mike> No versions found :(
[04:08] <seravitae> hmm whats the name of that site which has software designed for usb sticks?
[04:08] <bulmer> sponge_bob: dont add it to that, instead look into /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[04:08] <^^kalm> mike:hmmm, wait
[04:08] <sponge_bob> do I put sudo with ndiswrapper? or just ndiswrapper?
[04:09] <sponge_bob> ok
 hm what can i use in ubuntu to cut a segment out of a video? << I use avidemux , not very advanced, but does what I need.
[04:09] <seravitae> hm, ill try that
[04:09] <bulmer> sponge_bob: am looking into it of what you need to add to make it permanent..
[04:09] <^^kalm> stepanstas: so you found it? under "Configured Mouse" there should be a lot of "Option"s....
[04:10] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: yes, but what do i change?
[04:10] <^^kalm> stepanstas: add a line "Option           "Emulate3Buttons"      "true"
[04:10] <oldude67> can anyone help me install java?
[04:10] <^^kalm> stepanstas: or edit...
[04:10] <Waldoss> mancock
[04:10] <sponge_bob> bulmer, its open
[04:10] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: already there
[04:11] <sponge_bob> wait?
[04:11] <bulmer> sponge_bob: you add a line of  like  alias wlan0 ndiswrapper
[04:11] <^^kalm> mike: so go to the folder where you had the ndiswrapper_xxx_xxx.deb and type "dpkg -i ndiswrapper_xxx_xxx.deb" (alll this in console :D )
[04:11] <mike> ok :P
[04:12] <sponge_bob> bulmer, or 'alias modprobe ndiswrapper' ?
[04:12] <^^kalm> stepanstas: and still no wheel support? is it set for "true" ????
[04:12] <bulmer> sponge_bob: alias wlan0 ndiswrapper
[04:12] <bulmer> assumging wlan0 is the nic name
[04:12] <mike> What do I do if its on the cd?
[04:12] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: yes
[04:12] <sponge_bob> ok
[04:12] <bulmer> if it was eth0 replace wlan0 by eth0
[04:12] <mike> media/cdrom'?
[04:13] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: the wheel itself work, just no click function
[04:13] <^^kalm> mike: yeah where ever you had it...
[04:13] <mike> ok
[04:13] <bulmer> sponge_bob: then you must also do a  sudo ndiswrapper -m
[04:13] <^^kalm> stepanstas: ah! so its like that
[04:13] <sebdah> Is there any official iSCSI Target deb's available
[04:13] <sebdah> ?
[04:13] <sponge_bob> bulmer, I am saying I have to type 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' in console to even bring my wireless up
[04:13] <sponge_bob> oh
[04:14] <sponge_bob> ok I will do that
[04:14] <Rebecca> hey peoples. does anyone know a make/model of USB webcam that reliably works under ubuntu?
[04:14] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: sorry i didnt make myself clear
[04:14] <^^kalm> stapanstas: there isnt much use for the 3rd mouse "click" in Gnome :D it should work if you bind it to do something, etc
[04:14] <sebdah> Rebecca: Creative WebCam 2
[04:14] <sebdah> Rebecca: It's a quite old cam though
[04:15] <Rebecca> sebdah: hmmm.. thanks :)
[04:15] <sebdah> Rebecca: np
[04:15] <Rebecca> sebdah: i think i need a relatively new one.. because i need 3 of them, lol
[04:15] <sebdah> Rebecca: maybe some of their newer models works as well
[04:15] <^^kalm> stepanstas: yeah sorry, but im not sure about the 3rd click, so as much as id like to, i cant help you wif that :(
[04:16] <Rebecca> sebdah: ill look them up :)
[04:16] <mike> How do I navigate to my cd rom driver?
[04:16] <mike> *drive
[04:16] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: so that doesnt work on yours too?
[04:16] <^^kalm> mike: well if it IS mounted AND it is /media/cdrom0 then, you know
[04:16] <mike> ok
[04:16] <mike> so it is /media/cdrom0' then?
[04:17] <mike> I do that,Type in the depackage command and it just creates a new line with a >
[04:17] <rob-west> can someone help me install lm-sensors in ubuntu
[04:17] <^^kalm> stepanstas: Well mine doesnt work under GNOME, much because i dont care about the click, but say fluxbox for example the 3rd click is usable, in other words... Ubuntu knows its there just doesnt need it
[04:18] <Daverocks> Rebecca: i just got a logitech quickcam IM (like, a week ago) which works perfectly under openSUSE at least, but i'm using the same drivers as under ubuntu, so it _should_ work under ubuntu as well
[04:18] <loginfailure> why is the sudo password that works for me in my normal login not working for me in this testuser account
[04:18] <^^kalm> but can you locate the ndiswrapper package?
[04:18] <mike> ?
[04:18] <mike> No :S
[04:18] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: ohh okay, i just find it useful when reading long text
[04:18] <mike> I know where it is
[04:18] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: thanks for all your help
[04:18] <Daverocks> loginfailure: not all users are permitted to sudo. also, when you sudo, you type the password for _that_ user
[04:19] <mike> But ubuntu just creates a new line when i type in the depackage command :(
[04:19] <^^kalm> stepanstas: no worries, sorry i couldnt be more useful but i hope you gained some knowledge from what i said :)
[04:19] <Waldoss> secks
[04:20] <^^kalm> mike: so your IN the /media/cdrom0 where you run "ls" command and see the ndiswrapper* .deb sitting there nice and quiet...?
[04:20] <^^kalm> and the cd containing the ndiswrapper .deb is inserted :P
[04:20] <mike> i havent ran the ls command yet.
[04:20] <sponge_bob> that didnt fix it
[04:20] <stepanstas> ^^kalm: I did, thanks ;)
[04:21] <^^kalm> stepanstas: :)
[04:21] <dac> inzion are you there?
[04:21] <sponge_bob> I still have to type in 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' after the computer boots to get my wireless up
[04:21] <^^kalm> mike: you should be able to install it with "dpkg -i ndiswrapper-common_1.18-1ubuntu1_all.deb" without the double quotes :D
[04:21] <mike> Just creates a new line again :S
[04:21] <mike> just type it in without navigating to the CD rom drive?:O
[04:21] <sponge_bob> I am just wondering if there is a way to have this automated
[04:22] <^^kalm> mike: no... you do it in the folder/directory/place where the file is
[04:22] <sponge_bob> rather than typing it everytime I boot
[04:22] <dac> idaho45 are you there?
[04:22] <mike> but it doesn't work! :'( it just creates a new line with a >
[04:22] <Rebecca> Daverocks: cool, thanks :)
[04:22] <^^kalm> mike: right...
[04:22] <Daverocks> Rebecca: no problem
[04:22] <mike> are you sure im typing it in right "/media/cdrom0'"?
[04:22] <^^kalm> mike: sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-common_1.18-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[04:23] <Daverocks> Rebecca: i hear you can't use the drivers that come right with ubuntu out of the box, but when you install the drivers manually it works fine
[04:23] <IdleOne> !cron | sponge_bob
[04:23] <^^kalm> (i forgot the sudo thing again.... im still not used to it :P ... FULL TIME SU FTW)
[04:23] <ubotu> sponge_bob: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[04:23] <rob-west> !lm-sensors
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lm-sensors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <mike> xD.
[04:23] <rob-west> !lmsensors
[04:23] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[04:23] <Daverocks> !info lm-sensors
[04:23] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.0-7ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 479 kB, installed size 1472 kB
[04:23] <Rebecca> Daverocks: ok
[04:24] <^^kalm> mike: how about now then?
[04:24] <^^kalm> !ubotu
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[04:24] <bulmer> sponge_bob: after you reboot, can you do a  lsmod | grep ndiswrapper and see if it ever loaded
[04:24] <mike> "sudo /media/cdrom0" command not found :S
[04:24] <^^kalm> !user
[04:24] <ubotu> To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[04:25] <^^kalm> !whoami
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[04:25] <hnsn> !carrots
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[04:25] <hnsn> i like carrots
[04:25] <IdleOne> !botabuse | hnsn
[04:25] <Pici> !botabuse
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[04:25] <bulmer> mike what are you trying to do?
[04:26] <tony_ubuntu_newb> ! support
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[04:26] <sharperguy> What is ubuntu's position on CNR?
[04:26] <mike> Trying to get ndiswrapper to work :(
[04:26] <^^kalm> mike: "sudo dpkg -i /media/cdrom0/ndiswrapper-common_1.18-1ubuntu1_all.deb"
[04:26] <rob-west> now can someone help me set up lm-sensors
[04:26] <mike> ok
[04:26] <sebdah> rob-west: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[04:26] <rob-west> how can i make programs see its installed
[04:27] <rob-west> this gdesklet doesnt see it
[04:27] <mike> NO such file or directory.
[04:28] <mike> Im sure I typed it right
[04:28] <sebdah> rob-west: do you want to install gdesklet?
[04:28] <mike> its lubuntu1 right? wiht an L?
[04:28] <antiPosix> how do I figure out what package the command 'mail' belongs to with Ubuntu's package management system(apt)
[04:28] <^^kalm> with a 1
[04:28] <Pici> mike: Why dont you just do ls /media/cdrom0/ and see what the filename is?
[04:28] <sebdah> rob-west: sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[04:28] <mike> 1?
[04:28] <^^kalm> number  one
[04:28] <^^kalm> 1
[04:28] <^^kalm> yes
[04:28] <rob-west> no sebdah i have a gdesklet that reads lm sensors but it wont pick up the sensors
[04:28] <mike> 1ubuntu1?
[04:28] <Pici> rob-west: Try restarting the gdesklets first.
[04:29] <^^kalm> yes
[04:29] <rob-west> i did
[04:29] <^^kalm> mike:yes
[04:29] <mike> :)
[04:29] <^^kalm> :D
[04:29] <sebdah> rob-west: Have you installed lm-sensors?
[04:29] <rob-west> yes
[04:29] <antiPosix> anyone know how to query a file against the apt package manager to see what package it belongs to?
[04:29] <mike> did it
[04:29] <mike> Still says none found :(
[04:30] <IdleOne> rob-west, restart gdesklets and see if it works
[04:30] <bulmer> rob-west is that application a script? or a true binary program?
[04:30] <^^kalm> mike: AARGH, none found?
[04:30] <mike> Nope :'(
[04:30] <rob-west> its a program
[04:31] <^^kalm> mike: but is the file inside /media/cdrom0 check with "ls /media/cdrom0"
[04:31] <rob-west> it says it cant find the sensors
[04:31] <mike> yeah
[04:31] <bulmer> rob-west: how do you know its not loade?
[04:31] <mike> it said it unpacked it
[04:31] <mike> and everything.
[04:31] <bulmer> laoded*
[04:31] <^^kalm> mike: so it said its installed
[04:31] <bulmer> sheesh i cant type
[04:31] <mike> kalm:Yes
[04:32] <quaalmac> im trying to fsck my linux installation drive. when i do fsck /dev/hdc1 it says it is mounted and that running e2fsck on a mounted file system may cause severe filesystem damage.
[04:32] <quaalmac> how do you fsck it without it mounted?
[04:32] <tony_ubuntu_newb> Does anyone know how to fix this error:
[04:32] <rob-west> it says "No Temperature Sensors Found"
[04:32] <bulmer> rob-west: it is installed if you can see it in ps
[04:32] <tony_ubuntu_newb> The filesystem creation utility (/sbin/mkdosfs) reported the following errors:
[04:32] <tony_ubuntu_newb> mkdosfs: unable to get diskette geometry for '/dev/fd0'
[04:32] <tony_ubuntu_newb>  (56)
[04:32] <bulmer> quaalmac: you go to single user and do it from there
[04:32] <JavaDuke> hello
[04:32] <IdleOne> hello
[04:33] <bulmer> rob-west: a program loaded and not seeing the sensors are two different things
[04:33] <^^kalm> mike: fine... so if the "ndiswrapper" command doesnt work... try "man ndiswrapper" and look for possible commands...  IF THAT DOESNT WORK... try "sudo locate -u" if that says command doesnt exist or something equal... try "sudo updatedb" and wait
[04:33] <mike> pl
[04:33] <rob-west> when i type sensors in a terminal i get this output
[04:33] <quaalmac> bulmer, single user? i'm logged in as a testuser. do i need to logout of gnome?
[04:33] <rob-west> !pastebin
[04:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:33] <antiPosix> say I have a file "mail", is there anyway I can see the package name that it belongs to?
[04:34] <^^kalm> mike: after you've waited your fun while... try "locate ndisw"
[04:34] <BrianBoyko>  I'd like to reformat my low-end laptop and load Xubuntu but when I do so I find I no longer have access to WiFi - and thus, no more access to the Internet.  It detects the hardware alright but I don't have an app which can scan for networks installed.  I'd rather not connect to an ethernet line if I can avoid it.  Is there any way to get something like "wifi radar" on Xubuntu from the LiveCD or by putting a package file on a burned CD?
[04:34] <mike> man ndiswrapper came up with somthing
[04:34] <rob-west> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15968/
[04:34] <mike> Lots of things
[04:34] <^^kalm> mike: ok look if it gives any commands and options like.. "ndiswrapper --help" etc
[04:34] <mike> ok
[04:35] <bulmer> quaalmac: yes, single user is if you go to initlevel 1
[04:35] <antiPosix> 'rpm -qf filename' gives me the name of a package that filename belongs to.  Is there anyway to do this with apt?
[04:36] <mike> No commands in the manual :(
[04:36] <IdleOne> !wifi > BrianBoyko check this link out should help you
[04:36] <rob-west> bulmer
[04:36] <IdleOne> antiPosix, try deb -qf filename
[04:36] <rob-west> check my pastebin
[04:36] <antiPosix> IdleOne: thanks
[04:37] <IdleOne> antiPosix, dont know if that works though
[04:37] <quaalmac> im trying to fsck my linux installation drive. when i do fsck /dev/hdc1 it says it is mounted and that running e2fsck on a mounted file system may cause severe filesystem damage.. how do i fsck it without damaging the drive?
[04:37] <mike> waiting on the sudo locatue -u
[04:37] <^^kalm> mike: i just installed the same "ndiswrapper-common" and im getting the same error as you
[04:37] <mike> Come up with nothing :(
[04:37] <antiPosix> IdleOne: nope, there is no deb program
[04:37] <one_speed> I'm sure this is really simple, but how do a make a link to a mounted partition on my desktop?
[04:37] <IdleOne> antiPosix, yeah I see that
[04:37] <^^kalm> mike: now ndiswrapper IS the command, just i cannot figure out why it doesnt work
[04:37] <quaalmac> bulmer, oh ok.. i'm lagging bad here
[04:37] <quaalmac> thanks alot
[04:38] <quaalmac> i'll try this
[04:38] <mike> =/
[04:38] <mike> Does it need to work like that? Cant you try running a command through it?
[04:38] <BrianBoyko> IdleOne: Thank you but that doesn't really answer my question.  WiFi works out of the box on install, but I don't have any apps for scanning the network, and without and SSID, I'm not sure how to connect.
[04:39] <quaalmac> hmm
[04:39] <quaalmac> bulmer, i went to CTRL-ALT-F1 and logged in, only user currently logged in
[04:39] <quaalmac> and it still says its mounted
[04:39] <^^kalm> if ndiswrapper doesn't work none of the options will either
[04:39] <bulmer> rob-west: what sensors do you have? its physically installed?
[04:39] <rajivr> hey... guys do u know with package provides unistd.h file?
[04:39] <mg> BrainBoyko, iwconfig wlan0 scan should tell you all found networks
[04:39] <bulmer> quaalmac: single user does not mean you are the only user, it meant in initlevel 1
[04:39] <mike> damnit
[04:40] <bulmer> quaalmac: man initlevel
[04:40] <rob-west> i installed lmsensors
[04:40] <bulmer> quaalmac: rather man init
[04:41] <quaalmac> bulmer, ah ok
[04:41] <quaalmac> i need to reboot then
[04:41] <^^kalm> ok just out of curiosity... do "ls /lib/modules/*/" and see if you find a directory called "build"
[04:41] <mike> me?
[04:41] <^^kalm> mike: yes
[04:41] <bulmer> quaalmac: not reboot you can go to initlevel 1
[04:41] <mike> ok
[04:41] <^^kalm> mike: we're the only ones talking about ndiswrapper and wireless :D
[04:42] <bulmer> rob-west: the lsmsensors are detected as what serial? parallel? usb? you need a controller?
[04:42] <antiPosix> I have two ubuntu servers, one has the commandline mail command, the other does not.  What package do I need to have the mail command
[04:42] <mike> :P
[04:42] <mike> Nope,
[04:42] <mike> ive got a thing called Madwifi :p
[04:42] <quaalmac> bulmer, how do i goto initlevel 1 without rebooting
[04:42] <^^kalm> mike: hmm... tell me the details of your Wireless Card
[04:42] <bulmer> quaalmac: sudo initlevel 1  <--something like this
[04:42] <mike> Netgear WG111 USB
[04:43] <mike> Need to know anything else?
[04:43] <bulmer> or sudo su -c initlevel 1
[04:43] <IdleOne> antiPosix, stab in the dark im guessing that the mail command comes with the mail server you installed on the box so ? postfix or whatever it may have been
[04:43] <bulmer> i cant recall exact format of sudo command
[04:43] <quaalmac> bulmer, sudo init 1
[04:43] <quaalmac> asked for root password
[04:43] <antiPosix> IdleOne: I thought so too, I have sendmail installed and now I want to test my sendmail.cf with the mail command
[04:43] <quaalmac> or CTRL-D to continue
[04:43] <BrianBoyko> Thanks
[04:43] <^^kalm> mike: no just wondering about the chipset...
[04:43] <bulmer> quaalmac: there you go
[04:43] <mike> ok  :)
[04:43] <quaalmac> bulmer, awesome thanks
[04:44] <bulmer> you're welcome
[04:44] <quaalmac> bulmer, and which level do i need to go to to get back to normal login use ?
[04:44] <bulmer> quaalmac: back to any level between 2-5
[04:44] <quaalmac> bulmer, oh ok
[04:44] <minerale> Ok guys, here's the motherload: http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03020.pdf   -- Bill gates memo trying to make the ACPI specs open-source incompatible
[04:45] <quaalmac> bulmer, hmm.. just tried running fsck /dev/hdc1 again, still saying it is mounted.. do i need to umount ?
[04:45] <iresprite> Hey, all- got a quick question regarding port stuff.
[04:45] <bulmer> quaalmac: you boot off of /dev/hdc1 ?
[04:45] <quaalmac> bulmer, yes.
[04:46] <iresprite> I'm running a daap server on my ubuntu file server so I can advertise my music to itunes on any other computer on the subnet.
[04:46] <bulmer> quaalmac what does your /etc/fstab entry say about /dev/hdc1 ? fsck check at boot?
[04:47] <iresprite> the music share is showing up to itunes, b ut it tells me it's getting an error-- it's inaccessible for an unknown reason.
[04:47] <^^kalm> mike: its hard because i have NO idea why ndiswrapper doesn't work...
[04:47] <iresprite> Its telling me to check firewall settings, but I don't believe I have a firewall setup on either the client or the server.
[04:47] <mike> :S
[04:47] <quaalmac> minerale, thats beautiful.
[04:47] <mike> The head coder of ubuntu about?
[04:48] <mg> wow that sucks
[04:48] <mg> i bought a new original dvd and now i have to rip it in order to watch the movie -.-
[04:48] <mg> fuck copy protection
[04:48] <IdleOne> !ohmy | mg
[04:48] <ubotu> mg: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:49] <quaalmac> bulmer, it says typical-looking fstab line.. im not sure what i'm looking for though
[04:49] <mike> =( i want the internet *sigh*
[04:49] <iresprite> mike: what's your madwifi/ndiswrapper issue?
[04:49] <bulmer> quaalmac: what is number on its field 6 ?
[04:49] <rob-west> i give up on lmsensors
[04:49] <mike> Ndiswrapper wont be reconised
[04:49] <mg> sorry
[04:49] <mike> ask ^^kalm, He could explain better :p
[04:50] <^^kalm> mike: and im trying to help you get it :D
[04:50] <mike> :D
[04:50] <IdleOne> rob-west, lm-sensors is intalled right? try re-installing gdesktlets and see if it picks it up
[04:50] <iresprite> heh. Sorry-- don't mean to butt in.
[04:50] <bulmer> rob-west out of curiosity what is an lmsensor anyways?
[04:50] <masterLoki> Hi there, is there a way to install ubuntu festy on text mode without using the server CD
[04:50] <rob-west> it reads temperatures
[04:50] <IdleOne> !install | masterLoki
[04:50] <ubotu> masterLoki: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[04:50] <quaalmac> bulmer, pass=1
[04:50] <IdleOne> !alternate > masterLoki
[04:50] <bulmer> rob-west: the lsmsensors are detected as what serial? parallel? usb? you need a controller?
[04:51] <mike> When Feisty comes out do I get to send off for more CD's for me and my friends?:)
[04:51] <^^kalm> iresprite: you're welcome too, i'm not experienced with ndiswrapper :P i use native drivers as often as i can
[04:51] <rob-west> it doesnt say
[04:51] <bulmer> quaalmac: nope, the 5th normally is 0 and the 5th is 1 or 2
[04:51] <bulmer> 6th is 1 or 2
[04:51] <^^kalm> mike: i use Ubuntu 7.04b
[04:51] <mike> :o
[04:51] <^^kalm> mike: b = beta
[04:52] <mike> I know, I program.
[04:52] <IdleOne> mike, yes to shipit
[04:52] <iresprite> ^^kalm: I hear ya. I wish I could use native drivers!
[04:52] <mike> Kick ass.
[04:52] <IdleOne> language
[04:52] <mike> Sorry :P
[04:52] <xamox> anyone have a link to grab v7.04?
[04:52] <IdleOne> s'ok I'm excited about getting my new cd's also hehe
[04:53] <iresprite> So in what way is ndiswrapper not being recognized?
[04:53] <mike> :D
[04:53] <IdleOne> !fiesty > xamox
[04:53] <^^kalm> iresprite: i use rt61 drivers, but mike here uses Netgear WG111 USB, hence requiring a Ndiswrapper... ( no internet on his computer so all the other options are unusable)
[04:53] <xamox> IdleOne, thx
[04:53] <mike> I type in ndiswrapper and it says its not installed.
[04:53] <quaaltester> bulmer, http://pastebin.ca/442863
[04:53] <quaaltester> is my exact line
[04:53] <mike> I dont have cable connections at my house,Its all wireless :P
[04:53] <bulmer> then install if not installed?
[04:53] <deadmorozzz> 
[04:53] <^^kalm> mike: does it complain about a version missing, or that no such command exists
[04:53] <mike> It is installed though :s
[04:53] <mike> umm,one sec.
[04:53] <iresprite> it's in your path?
[04:54] <mg> mike, try sudo ndiswrapper
[04:54] <mg> perhaps it's not in your path
[04:54] <mike> no versions found
[04:54] <^^kalm> mike: ok no versions...
[04:54] <bulmer> quaaltester: your /dev/hdc1 is commented out..
[04:54] <iresprite> yeah, it should be in /usr/sbin/
[04:54] <^^kalm> mike: the command ndiswrapper exists...
[04:54] <quaaltester> bulmer, hmm
[04:54] <quaaltester> i have no idea how that happened ?
[04:54] <mike> =S Linux is confusing/
[04:55] <^^kalm> iresprite: the command ndiswrapper exists...
[04:55] <bulmer> quaaltester: i did it? hehehe..j/k
[04:55] <^^kalm> mike: you get used to it :D
[04:55] <quaaltester> bulmer, so remove that and it should fsck on boot ?
[04:55] <iresprite> So it's installed-- in /usr/sbin/-- and it says it's not installed.
[04:55] <^^kalm> mike:  i've used linux as my primary os for a long time now....
[04:55] <mike> lol.I want to download Racer if I get this working,Looks such an awesome racing sim.
[04:55] <mike> ^^kalm,Ive used it once for a week:p
[04:55] <bulmer> quaaltester: try and see, it wont hurt you me thinks
[04:55] <quaaltester> ok..
[04:56] <iresprite> Have you tried running it directly from the directory? That is, running /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper (or wherever it's installed).
[04:56] <^^kalm> iresprite: no its there, but as it seems theres a error saying "Error: no version of ndiswrapper found!"
[04:56] <iresprite> Ahhhh.
[04:56] <mike> Nope,I dont know how :s
[04:56] <iresprite> Okay, sorry. I was confused.
[04:57] <mike> My cat just threw up over my linux keyboard,Nice. I have to go clear that up.
[04:57] <Ausschwitz> I love linux
[04:57] <^^kalm> mike: if someone tells you to run a command straight from a directory, it means you go to that directory and and run it within that directory, but since its located in /usr/sbin/* it doesnt make a difference
[04:58] <quaaltester> let me be more specific i guess
[04:58] <quaaltester> http://pastebin.ca/442868
[04:58] <quaaltester> is the gnome bug error i'm getting
[04:58] <quaaltester> its a constant loop
[04:58] <quaaltester> the panel wont load
[04:58] <quaaltester> i cant run a terminal
[04:58] <quaaltester> that just keeps popping up
[04:58] <quaaltester> when i login as my normal user
[04:58] <oxygen> i want to use mod_python
[04:58] <oxygen> but it s not work
[04:58] <jrib> !enter | quaaltester
[04:58] <ubotu> quaaltester: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:59] <quaaltester> anyone have an idea what could be causing this?
[04:59] <quaaltester> might an fsck fix it ?
[04:59] <Ausschwitz> ubotu: what?
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <iresprite> mike: can you tell me what version of ndiswrapper you have installed?
[05:00] <Ausschwitz> ubotu: pardon?
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pardon? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <Pici> !bot | Ausschwitz
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[05:00] <Ausschwitz> ubotu: oic
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <mg> wtf ausschwitz?
[05:00] <mg> what kind of name is that?
[05:00] <Ausschwitz> sup mg
[05:00] <mg> sup?
[05:00] <Ausschwitz> I have two s's, so it is not the Nazi death camp
[05:00] <quaaltester> what kind of name is mg
[05:01] <iresprite> mike: http://linux-notes.thomaspowell.com/
[05:01] <mike> #[
[05:01] <mg> it's short for massengrab :-P
[05:01] <mike> Back.
[05:01] <iresprite> this suggests that there have been some issues with ndiswrappr.
[05:01] <mg> ok if you don't mean the nazi death camp
[05:01] <mike> I cant see, I have no mouse.
[05:01] <EkUmBa> hello
[05:01] <Ausschwitz> No, that would be one s.  And that name is already taken.
[05:01] <^^kalm> iresprite: i think i made him install 1.8
[05:01] <EkUmBa> i got a error 18..what can i di?
[05:02] <mg> ekumba, not enough information
[05:02] <mg> wher do you get that error?
[05:02] <antiPosix> Error 18!!!
[05:02] <antiPosix> please say its not Error 18
[05:02] <EkUmBa> it is
[05:02] <EkUmBa> what does it mean?
[05:02] <antiPosix> beats me
[05:02] <EkUmBa> now i am running an older version of linux
[05:02] <antiPosix> depends on what is giving it to you
[05:02] <quaaltester> i'm getting this error repeating when i login to gnome as a certain user. http://pastebin.ca/442868 i am currently logged in to gnome as a test user. what can i do to fix this error to stop cycling over and over, and make gnome and the panel available when i login as that user
[05:02] <Ausschwitz> Try reconfiguring
[05:03] <EkUmBa> how?
[05:03] <Ausschwitz> Like, reconfigure the system
[05:03] <mg> ekumba, seams to be a well known error http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+error
[05:03] <EkUmBa> reinstall ubuntu?
[05:03] <pokoko> mike, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:03] <^^kalm> iresprite: i think i made him install 1.18*
[05:03] <mike> ok
[05:03] <Ausschwitz> EkUmBa: Yes
[05:03] <mg> http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+error+18
[05:03] <EkUmBa> will m data get lost?
[05:03] <kitche> EkUmBa: it seems like you installed grub behind 1023 cyclinders on your disk
[05:03] <iresprite> ^^kalm: Ah. Okay.
[05:03] <Ausschwitz> EkUmBa: No, it's all good
[05:03] <drayen> i have a mounted drive (same physical disk) with ext3 on it.. df gives me "/dev/hda2             46101248  45781236         0 100% /media/hda2" which is crazy, because acording to the used 1k blocks figure - there should be 320012 free!! not 0 ??? its driving me up the wall! how can i fix it (tried rebooting)
[05:04] <oxygen> help me pls
[05:04] <antiPosix> grub error 18, now we are on to something
[05:04] <matthia1> hello.  I relocated my boot partition from (hd0,0) to (hd0,2) (or respectively /dev/sda1 to /dev/sda3).  everytime I get a new kernel via update-manager, /boot/grub/menu.lst reverts back its entries to boot from (hd0,0).  How can I change this?
[05:04] <Ausschwitz> oxygen: What's up?
[05:04] <EkUmBa> kitche_and what can i do?just install ubuntu new?
[05:04] <chjunior> how to upgrade to 7.04 version?
[05:04] <IdleOne>  !upgrade | chjunior
[05:04] <ubotu> chjunior: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:04] <malte> hello, i tried to install ubuntu on my desktop-pc. when i boot from live-cd the splash-screen with the status-bar appears but then the screen goes black and nothing happens. i tried with some resolutions-settings and the safe-mode. any ideas?
[05:05] <kitche> EkUmBa: install grub the right way
[05:05] <mike> Xserver-xorg is not installed.
[05:05] <chjunior> great!
[05:05] <EkUmBa> how do i do that?
[05:05] <pokoko> chjunior, "gksu update-manager -c" (most probably this is the upgrade command)
[05:05] <kitche> !grub | EkUmBa
[05:05] <ubotu> EkUmBa: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:05] <derek_> What is that GUI tool of ATI configuration? Where I can set the gamma values etc. of the three colours using sliders?
[05:06] <EkUmBa> thx
[05:06] <antiPosix> !nmap
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <orgy`> hi, how can i change the colour of marked text?
[05:06] <pokoko> orgy`, what does your nick mean ?
[05:06] <mike> !ndiswrapper
[05:06] <IdleOne> orgy`, in xchat check the prefs
[05:06] <pokoko> !info nmap
[05:06] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[05:06] <orgy`> IdleOne i mean globally
[05:07] <pokoko> heh
[05:07] <antiPosix> nice
[05:07] <Lin> hi people.. I have done a auto installations using fai+ubuntu. Everything is fine. But when I start gnome-session it takes a long time to start (5 mintes) then start withou any problem. Any tips? DNS and /etc/hosts are ok
[05:07] <IdleOne> orgy`, again check prefs
[05:07] <Ausschwitz> I think orgy`'s name is inappropriate
[05:07] <malte> no ideas concerning my topic? ;(
[05:07] <antiPosix> !info exim
[05:07] <ubotu> exim: An obsolete MTA (Mail Transport Agent), replaced by exim4. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.36-18.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 762 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[05:07] <Ausschwitz> malte: Try reconfiguring
[05:07] <orgy`> Ausschwitz :(
[05:07] <^^kalm> mike: what interfaces does "ifconfig -a"  give you?
[05:07] <IdleOne> orgy`, system prefs
[05:07] <antiPosix> !info exim4
[05:07] <ubotu> exim4: metapackage to ease exim MTA (v4) installation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.62-2 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[05:07] <antiPosix> this is fun
[05:07] <LjL> Ausschwitz: i agree about orgy`. i think yours might be a little inappropriate, as well
[05:07] <iresprite> Ausschwitz: that tick mark at the end of orgy`'s name means it's not the inappropriate sexual reference.
[05:07] <Ausschwitz> LjL: WHy's that?
[05:07] <malte> reconfiguring?
[05:07] <Ausschwitz> iresprite: Ok, never mind then, my bad
[05:07] <^^kalm> mike: what interfaces does "ifconfig -a"  give you?
[05:08] <iresprite> Just like that extra 's' means your name isn't inappropriate. ;)
[05:08] <DogWater> You guys think wireless internet will ever just "work" on linux/ubuntu?
[05:08] <matthia1> ("ausschwitz" might just mean to sweat out.)
[05:08] <antiPosix> so would the nick FilthyWhore` be appropriate?
[05:08] <DogWater> or will it always be a hassle
[05:08] <Ausschwitz> Ah, that makes sense!
[05:08] <orgy`> IdleOne i checked gnome-control-center but couldnt find anything
[05:08] <pokoko> LjL, we need beer @ #ubuntu
[05:08] <iresprite> DogWater: We can always hope. :) Really, it seems like the biggest problem is with all the drivers.
[05:09] <pokoko> LjL, ;)
[05:09] <LjL> what about both Ausschwitz and orgy` change nicknames, since this channel is for discussing Ubuntu problems and not arguing about nicknames? better to be on the safe side anyway, no?
[05:09] <matthia1> I relocated my boot partition from (hd0,0) to (hd0,2) (or respectively /dev/sda1 to /dev/sda3).  everytime I get a new kernel via update-manager, /boot/grub/menu.lst reverts back its entries to boot from (hd0,0).  How can I change this?  Thank you.
[05:09] <Ausschwitz> LjL: My name has two "s"'s, so it is not the Nazi death camp
[05:09] <orgy`> LjL ive been in many channels no one felt offended until now
[05:09] <iresprite> mike: also, what's in your /etc/ndiswrapper directory?
[05:09] <IdleOne>  !offtopic
[05:09] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:09] <Ausschwitz> And orgy`'s name has the tick mark
[05:10] <pokoko> heh.
[05:10] <effie_jayx> Ausschwitz,  I surely don't care how it is spelled but ... It did remind me of that
[05:10] <IdleOne> please change the subject back to support before ppl do get offended
[05:10] <LjL> Ausschwitz: it's not like a mispelling or a tickmark changes anything. please change it. orgy`, this channel is often stricter than others.
[05:10] <Enverex> How exactly does "`" change something entirely? That makes no sense.
[05:10] <Ausschwitz> !offtopic
[05:10] <orgy`> Ausschwitz is refering to the current warmth in germany
[05:10] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:10] <mIKE> I hate XP :(
[05:10] <pokoko> oh good news
[05:10] <CapaH> What is the eta for Fawn ?
[05:10] <iresprite> Sorry, dude.
[05:10] <pokoko> !feisty
[05:10] <IdleOne> !feisty | CapaH
[05:10] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:10] <ubotu> CapaH: please see above
[05:11] <Aussschwitz> Hi, let's get back on topic plz
[05:11] <Mike> Yeah,Lets get on to fixing ndiswrapper on my comp xD
[05:11] <iresprite> So mike-- what do you get from ifconfig and /etc/ndiswrapper?
[05:11] <Aussschwitz> !offtopic
[05:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:11] <Aussschwitz> Who has a ubuntu problem?
[05:11] <Mike> ifconfig, Nothing.
[05:11] <rgy> i do..but actually its not ubuntu but gtk specific i think
[05:11] <Xanthus35> can I get the url for dual booting please
[05:11] <Mike>  etc/ndis wrapper?
[05:11] <^^kalm> Mike: ifconfig -a gives no output?
[05:12] <DogWater> join #newsgroup
[05:12] <Mike> Hmm,One sec
[05:12] <antiPosix> Xanthus35: google "dual booting" and linux
[05:12] <Enverex> Hrmm, has Feisty reached release status? I've noticed their repos haven't changed for a day or two now.
[05:12] <matthia1> /send Aussschwitz maybe you should put a hyphen in there. aus-schwitz. would be easier not to misread.
[05:12] <rgy> Xanthus35 google.com
[05:12] <iresprite> I have an issue with getting a daap share to work on my network. iTunes seems to think that my ubuntu fiule server has a firewall up.
[05:12] <pokoko> !dualboot | Xanthus35
[05:12] <ubotu> Xanthus35: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:12] <antiPosix> someones nick is Aussschwitz ?
[05:12] <Aussschwitz> Yes, that is me
[05:12] <iresprite> I'm not sure why that is. I'm running ,DNSResponder and DAAP. Any thoughts would be welcome.
[05:12] <Mike> it comes up with lots of network stuff
[05:12] <effie_jayx> Aussschwitz,  we apreciate you being here... but I find you nick rather agitating
[05:12] <pokoko> heh
[05:12] <antiPosix> nice
[05:13] <rgy> now im argy
[05:13] <pokoko> heh
[05:13] <pokoko> where's orgy ?
[05:13] <pokoko> heh
[05:13] <LjL> !traffic
[05:13] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[05:13] <^^kalm> Mike: yes but look at the interface names... eth0, eth1, sit0... can you find a wlan0 etc?
[05:13] <LjL> err, sorry
[05:13] <matthia1> does someone know how to relocate boot partitions?
[05:13] <Mike> ok ill look
[05:13] <UberPsyX> hi, just downloaded the unreal tournament 2004 demo as "UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz", how do i install it?
[05:13] <antiPosix> dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr and dd if=mbr of=/dev/sda1
[05:14] <mjr> UberPsyX, gunzip it, chmod a+x it, then ./it
[05:14] <matthia1> UberPsyX: Did you manage to extract the archive.
[05:14] <Mike> PC crashed,Let me reboot it.
[05:14] <CapaH> Uber: First do you know about tar/gz files?
[05:14] <antiPosix> although my method is not tested
[05:14] <Enverex> UberPsyX, Easiest thing to do is use some sort of archive manager program to un gzip it then use sh at the terminal to run it
[05:14] <^^kalm> Mike: hahaha...
[05:14] <antiPosix> err.  bs=512 and count=1
[05:14] <rgy> matthia1 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1491931
[05:14] <CapaH> Uber: Double click the file in your file manager = good first step
[05:14] <UberPsyX> ok i unzip it and end up with UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run
[05:14] <CapaH> UberPsyX: Double click that file
[05:15] <mjr> UberPsyX, incidentally, the demo is a bit crashy compared to the current full version, if you're contemplating buying it eventually.
[05:15] <Enverex> UberPsyX, You'll want to run that as root though rather than as a user
[05:15] <UberPsyX> aha
[05:15] <UberPsyX> ok thanks a lot ill try that, be back if it doesnt work
[05:15] <aoupi> woa, never run network things as root
[05:15] <^^kalm> UberPsyX: NO! do not double click it... go to console and do sudo ./UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run
[05:15] <mjr> UberPsyX, but it works well enough to give you a general idea of the game; just that if it crashes for you sometimes, the full version might well not
[05:16] <CapaH> ^^kalm: Why not double cli... ah right, he wont be root
[05:16] <Mike> ok rebooted
[05:16] <Mike> What shall i try?
[05:16] <Enverex> aoupi, It's a game that needs to be installed to /usr/games for all users, it needs root access to install
[05:16] <^^kalm> CapaH: and so he wont be able to install it system wide.
[05:16] <aoupi> Enverex: oh ok, thought he was going to play it as root
[05:16] <^^kalm> Mike: ok...
[05:16] <Mike> ohh yeah the Wlan thing
[05:16] <Mike> =/
[05:17] <^^kalm> Mike: since it rebooted... try ndiswrapper now
[05:17] <Mike> ok
[05:17] <^^kalm> Mike:  did you find wlan0 or something simular in the "ifconfig -a" output?
[05:17] <Mike> No it wasn't plugged in :P
[05:17] <Mike> just doing it again now
[05:17] <^^kalm> Mike: would you like to plug it in.....
[05:18] <quaaltest> i have a problem when trying to login as a certain user. when gnome starts the bug reporting tool pops up and gives me this error http://pastebin.ca/442868 this repeats over and over and i cannot do anything in gnome. The panel is not accessible, cannot alt-F2 and open a terminal. nothing. how do i resolve this?
[05:19] <rgy> how do i make the marked text visible again http://i17.tinypic.com/49l2s94.png
[05:19] <UberPsyX> hi im back as it says it cant extract the file from the .gz
[05:19] <^^kalm> Mike: if wlan0 exists there is no need to play with the more or less annoying ndiswrapper
[05:19] <UberPsyX> it says something about an unexpected end of file or something
[05:20] <rgy> UberPsyX read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1491931
[05:20] <quaaltest> is there a way to reset gnome or something?
[05:21] <Mike> No wlan, just eth1 and ln.
[05:21] <UberPsyX> so you think the archive could be dodgey
[05:21] <^^kalm> Mike: ok then... back to ndiswrapper
[05:21] <Mike> nothing on there aswell.
[05:21] <Mike> No version installed :(
[05:22] <^^kalm> yaeh
[05:22] <rgy> UberPsyX possible
[05:22] <^^kalm> Mike: Do you know what chipset it uses
[05:22] <UberPsyX> ok thanks ill download this one
[05:22] <Mike> Nope,Ill look for you
[05:22] <^^kalm> Mike: nah, dont worry about it
[05:22] <UberPsyX> lol this is gonna take forevver
[05:22] <Mike> ok
[05:23] <VCreator> so how come every kernel update breaks my nvidia drivers and i have to go through the manual reinstall process
[05:23] <VCreator> just shooting for luck but any fix for that ?
[05:23] <rgy> VCreator did you try envy ?
[05:23] <VCreator> I have not tried envy
[05:23] <VCreator> some script for installing nvidia drivers ?
[05:23] <rgy> yes
[05:24] <^^kalm> Mike: if you want wireless... the simples way is to have the ethernet plugged in for the while you install wireless
[05:24] <kitche> VCreator: umm becuase the nvidia driver dpeneds on the kernel
[05:24] <Enverex> rgy, I think it's more a point that it should "just work". It seems that any minor reversion to the kernel say, 2.6.15-3 to 2.6.15-4 will break them so you have to reinstall each time
[05:24] <Enverex> kitche, /\
[05:24] <rgy> well, i think you cant avoid the reinstall of the driver anyways..so you can use envy to make it faster
[05:24] <Mike> i dont have ethernet on that PC :S
[05:24] <VCreator> damn
[05:24] <Enverex> A kernel version I could understand, but not just a recompile
[05:24] <VCreator> but the updates come out a lot
[05:24] <^^kalm> Mike:hmm...
[05:25] <clarjon1> helo
[05:25] <antiPosix> does Envy do TV-OUT?
[05:25] <clarjon1> wow, lotsa pplz here...
[05:25] <ikonia_> Does anyone have a guide, or even better experience in sharing a printer with cups without any gui tools
[05:26] <^^kalm> Mike: since ndiswrapper doesn't work, you cant download all the necessary files for the Ubuntu box in order to install a possible native driver... im not sure what to do...
[05:26] <Mike> :'(
[05:26] <clarjon1> ikonia_: google?
[05:26] <v4m21> I have problem with grub, First I formatted my hard drive using dos boot cd, then I partationed it and installed ubuntu feasty in the last partation, then I installed windows xp on sda1 but when I tired to restore grub bootloder, grub is using old menu.lst file, is there any way to grub to force regenerate menu.lst file for new config ?
[05:26] <antiPosix> Alberto Milone's Envy.....anyone check out that photo of this guy?  I dont want one of the Collumbine Highschool shooters involved with the installation of my NVidia kernel module
[05:26] <ikonia_> clarjon1 pathetic
[05:26] <wizard> how would i tell fstab to automatically remount network-mounted partitions
[05:26] <^^kalm> Mike: Ndiswrapper might not work either way, since it might need the driver actually installed on a Windows partition
[05:26] <Mike> =/
[05:26] <radar1976> anyone here able to help with squid?
[05:27] <Mike> ive got one installed on this system
[05:27] <VCreator> rgy: i am guessing i wouldnt have this reinstall problem if i used onboard video ?
[05:27] <clarjon1> ikonia_: from command line in other words, right?
[05:27] <Mike> but its the same shurely?
[05:27] <^^kalm> Mike: and you dont have a windows partition :)
[05:27] <Mike> on this Pc there is an XP one
[05:27] <v4m21> radar1976: whats the problem ?
[05:27] <ikonia_> clarjon1 yes, there was a thread on the ubuntu forums but that appears to have been archived
[05:27] <^^kalm> Mike: that doesnt much help with the other computer
[05:27] <Mike> =/
[05:27] <clarjon1> ikonia_: did you know that cups has a web based interface?
[05:28] <ikonia_> clarjon1 I am aware of it, but I'm not sure I'll be able to configure it due to the network configuration I'm running at the moment
[05:28] <Mike> ive got to go out
[05:28] <Mike> Ill be back in 15
[05:28] <^^kalm> Mike: yeah...
[05:28] <ikonia_> I think I may have found the thread.
[05:28] <Mike> If you have any ideas, private message me
[05:29] <clarjon1> ikonia_: http://localhost:631
[05:29] <quaaltest> hello does anyone know about gnome errors? im having a pretty big problem here as this error message keeps popping up and wont allow me to do anything in gnome.. http://pastebin.ca/442868
[05:29] <ikonia_> clarjon1 I'm not on the local host - as I said I don't think it will work on my network setup
[05:29] <clarjon1> ikonia_: if cups is runing, then the web based interface should be as well, since it's usually built in.
[05:30] <clarjon1> ikonia_: anyways, the google results are in: http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse91/suselinux-adminguide/html/ch05s07.html
[05:30] <ikonia_> clarjon1 - I'll say it again, due to the network configuration I don't think that will work at this moment in time. I'll have to go about reconfiguring the network/server to allow that
[05:30] <ikonia_> clarjon1 suse linux works differently for the setup.
[05:30] <clarjon1> ikonia_ yes, but you don't know if it will work until you've tried, right?
[05:30] <clarjon1> ikonia_: not /that/ different
[05:31] <ikonia_> clarjon1 tell you what, please don't comment on this topic any more. Thanks for you time. I've said 3 times it won't work
[05:32] <clarjon1> ikonia_: it's worked for me for ubuntu, slackware, debian, freespire, knoppix, slax, redhat, suse, gentoo...
[05:33] <Sevensins> hello ... why does the beryl-manager vanisch from the startup programms once i restart my session? do i have to say st like hocus pocus or what might help?
[05:33] <clarjon1> don't say it doesn't work till you've at least tried it and have the error message.
[05:34] <ikonia_> clarjon1 please drop it, I know it doesn't work
[05:35] <aoupi> quaaltest: you could try renaming he .gnome2 directory in that users home to .gnome2_backup
[05:35] <aoupi> if it doesn't help just change it back
[05:35] <clarjon1> ikonia_: The concepts are the same, from distro to distro.  The only differences is most likely where the files are stored, and a simple locate/slocate/find can help you out there.
[05:36] <jrib> Sevensins: did you say it three times fast?  Check permissions on ~/.config/autostart/
[05:36] <w00t> i love how after something stops wroking in gnome and I have to kill X, it takes gnome 20 minutes or more to reload to my desktop on the enxt login.
[05:36] <ikonia_> clarjon1 one final time. Please stop discussing this topic with me. While I appriciate your help/input, your not listening to me that dues to my configuration I can't use the tools your suggesting
[05:36] <Sevensins> jrib my mate thx again
[05:37] <Sevensins> ill try and give you a shot later :)
[05:37] <clarjon1> You can't even use the tools that come with the cups packages?
[05:37] <Sevensins> sry shout
[05:37] <IdleOne> is it possible for me to connect my home 6 cd player to my ubuntu box and use it to listen to music?
[05:37] <ikonia_> clarjon1 not the web based tools. I have a how to that will allow me to configure cups from the command line, and I'm working through that
[05:37] <w00t> and of course I am asking for help in the wrong place because no oen here ever helps anymore...
[05:37] <ikonia_> w00t do you have a problem/question ?
[05:37] <clarjon1> w00t: what's the problem?
[05:38] <w00t> clarjon1: well, first i'd liek to know if theres a way to get fstab to auto-remount an smbfs share if it gets disconnected
[05:38] <quaaltest> aoupi, k.. thanks
[05:38] <ikonia_> w00t yes use automount
[05:38] <w00t> second,. i'd like to know why if gnome can't find a network share it freezes up all of the menu bars and windows, and then it crashes, requiring control alt backspace, then when i log back in
[05:39] <w00t> it takes it about 4 minutes to load a full desktop
[05:39] <r00tintheb0x> w00t, that is WAY too slow.
[05:39] <ikonia_> w00t that share is unvailable at boot time for some reason
[05:40] <w00t> ikonia_: the entire login haults, taking ages to load
[05:40] <w00t> and the only way to fix it is to hardboot the stupid thing in the middle of a login
[05:40] <behdad_> Hello every one , How can i stop package manager from updating an application from a BETA or UNSTABLE version to a STABLE version ?
[05:40] <w00t> and i'll further input its *only* ubuntu/gnome that does this
[05:41] <w00t> and its done it even on feisty.
[05:41] <Sevensins> bye
[05:41] <SeveredCross> Sounds like a gnome bug.
[05:41] <SeveredCross> KDE doesn't do it?
[05:41] <w00t> nope
[05:41] <w00t> kde actually works...
[05:41] <[aH] Drew> Okay so I'm working from home today
[05:41] <[aH] Drew> And I can access one server on my work's network, but I need to somehow tunnel mysql from another server
[05:42] <[aH] Drew> how can I do that?
[05:42] <w00t> yay i am sitting here on a frozen up gnome login! 4 minutes in again
[05:42] <behdad_> Anyone any idea ?
[05:42] <pokoko> [aH] Drew, if you can ssh to your work's machine, you can do mysql/yoursql, basically anything you want.
[05:43] <aoupi> behdad_: hw did you get the beta in the first place?
[05:43] <X_RiianF_X>  /msg nickserv link RiianF urlaub
[05:43] <aoupi> X_RiianF_X: ooops :)
[05:43] <X_RiianF_X> jau
[05:43] <w00t> it seems like gnome is getting choaked up on connecting to my smb shares thru fstab
[05:43] <X_RiianF_X> scheissding
[05:43] <X_RiianF_X> hihi
[05:43] <w00t> how can i set up fstab to auto-reconnect?
[05:44] <X_RiianF_X> erst willer irgendeinen mist
[05:44] <X_RiianF_X> und denn sowas
[05:44] <LjL> !de | X_RiianF_X
[05:44] <bef> has a 7.04 RC been released yet?
[05:44] <ubotu> X_RiianF_X: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:44] <X_RiianF_X> naja wurscht
[05:44] <bef> or still delayed from 12/4
[05:44] <pirothezero> 19/4 bef
[05:44] <pokoko> X_RiianF_X, this is english ubuntu channel. Please use english language.
[05:45] <behdad_> aoupi: iv installed beta version by myself but everytime i want to update my system it will replace the beta version with an older version
[05:45] <bef> pirothezero: 19/4 is the proposed final release, not the date for the release candidate (RC).
[05:45] <aoupi> behdad_: when you install yourself, put the stuff in /usr/local soo it wont interfere with the packagemanager
[05:46] <aoupi> behdad_: './configure --prefix=/usr/local'
[05:46] <Ripso> Hi Guys, how can I stop all these quit and join messages (XCHAT Linux Client) ?
[05:47] <behdad_> aoup: you mean iv installed it in wrong location ?
[05:47] <aoupi> behdad_: yea
[05:48] <pokoko> behdad_, you can force a particular version of a package through synaptic. Edit > Preference >Distribution
[05:48] <behdad_> aoup: but its a debian package , and i install it with GDebi package installer , howcome ?
[05:48] <Mike> Im back,and Im putting a bounty on it. If you can get it working in the next 4 hours and 22 minuets ill pay you $30.
[05:48] <pokoko> heh
[05:49] <Mike> :P
[05:49] <Mike> Worth it?
[05:49] <aoupi> behdad_: ah see, then that .deb registers in the same place synaptic register packages, and synaptic sees that is a version that doesn't exist(as far as it knows) soo it gets the newest version it has
[05:49] <aoupi> behdad_: you can force it to keep newer versions anyways though
[05:50] <pokoko> Mike, and the problem is ?
[05:50] <Mike> Cant get my wifi usb stick (Netgear WG111) to work with ubuntu, Ndiswrapper wont work.
[05:50] <aoupi> behdad_: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html see 3.10
[05:51] <Appears> Mike under ubuntu I had this problem too with a wifi stick..It had not work, now I am using kubuntu and its working^
[05:51] <behdad_> aoupi: i think yes you are right , it is exactly what happened , and im looking to how keep this version
[05:51] <Mike> I cant use kubuntu.
[05:52] <Appears> oh okay thats bad..
[05:52] <Mike> Try downloading it on dial up lol ;P
[05:52] <Appears> :D
[05:53] <Mike> Klam,You thought of any other ways?
[05:53] <behdad_> aoupi: thanku so much man :)
[05:53] <aoupi> np
[05:53] <behdad_> kopoki: thanks man
[05:53] <Mike> Actually,Make it $45.
[05:53] <andres> #ubuntu-es
[05:53] <pokoko> Mike, what does "lsusb" show ?
[05:54] <Mike> whats lsusb?
[05:54] <pokoko> Mike, yes. go to your terminal and type "lsusb"
[05:54] <Andeh> HHeelloo.
[05:54] <Mike> type it in terminal?
[05:54] <jester626> My situation: I have pulled the slave drive out of a windows XP box and want to install it as the slave drive on an Ubuntu box. Will Ubuntu be able to read the data files on the "former" XP slave drive?
[05:54] <Andeh> Whats the feisty chanel called?
[05:54] <andres> #ubuntu-es
[05:54] <Mike> pokoko: It shows it there, The wifi and the brand.
[05:54] <Andeh> IRC
[05:55] <w00t> see heeres a problem for me, i boucne my laptop on and off wireless connections and wired connections... every time i do this, fstab loses a connection to one of my smb shares. in this process, it effectively crashes the file manager.
[05:55] <pokoko> Mike, can you please paste the output at pastebin
[05:55] <pokoko> ?
[05:55] <pokoko> !pastebin
[05:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:55] <Mike> Nope.
[05:55] <w00t> what i need is a way to automount those shares after connections have been lost.
[05:55] <sorcerer22> guys iam trying to play this stream or lets listen to this station online and it aint opening up in amorok .. please coud you take a look and tell me if there is something i can do about it to listen here is the web site http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/innewmusicwetrust/petetong/
[05:55] <Mike> I cant copy it across :( its on a diffrent PC
[05:55] <Mike> What do you need to know? ill find it out off there
[05:56] <quaaltest> does anyone know what could cause this? http://pastebin.ca/442868 i cannot use gnome because of it
[05:56] <LRKO> www.redchat.cl
[05:57] <Mike> bus 001 device 002 ID 0846:4240 Netgear, inc. WG111 WiFi (v2)
[05:57] <Mike> thats all
[05:57] <pokoko> Mike, so if Ubuntu can understand the wifi, proceed with ndiswrapper
[05:58] <Mike> (Device one is empty)
[05:58] <Mike> it doesn't work!
[05:58] <robbert_> exit
[05:58] <robbert_> exit
[05:58] <pokoko> Mike, look @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51993
[05:58] <Mike> I had to install it from a deb package as there is no net on that machien,but it wont reconise it in the terminal. even though its installed.
[05:58] <LRKO> www.redchat.cl
[05:59] <Mike> Ahh,Ive got bleach in my eye.
[05:59] <Mike> What part of ndiswrapper doesn't work,do you not understand?xD
[06:01] <pokoko> Mike, are you following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51993 or not ?
[06:02] <pokoko> Mike, i don't need the prize money. :)
[06:02] <Mike> Ndiswrapper doesn't work!!!
[06:02] <pokoko> Mike, bummer
[06:02] <Mike> yes
[06:03] <Mike> I have no internet connection on that machine,Nor can i get one without the wifi
[06:03] <pokoko> Mike, so what kernel version is this ?
[06:03] <pokoko> Mike, edgy or dapper or feisty ?
[06:03] <Mike> Umm,Ubuntu 6.06
[06:03] <pokoko> ok
[06:03] <jester626> My situation: I have pulled the slave drive out of a windows XP box and want to install it as the slave drive on an Ubuntu box. Will Ubuntu be able to read the data files on the "former" XP slave drive?
[06:04] <`Matir> jester626, yes
[06:04] <hoagie> Guys is there a way to speak with multiple contacts in Gaim the same time, like a meeting?
[06:04] <pokoko> Mike, ok where are you upto in installing & running ndiswrapper ?
[06:05] <djm62> hoagie: if you're all on the same protocol
[06:05] <jester626> `Matir: Got a link I can look at for direction?  When I google all I find is info about dual booting
[06:05] <djm62> hoagie: (and the protocol supports chat)
[06:05] <Mike> ive installed it, but thats all as it wont boot
[06:05] <hoagie> djm62 Will msn do?
[06:05] <Mike> ive also put the drivers for the adapter on it
[06:05] <djm62> hoagie: ought to, yes
[06:05] <pokoko> Mike, "sudo rmmod acx"
[06:05] <hoagie> djm62 ok so how do I create a "meeting"
[06:06] <Mike> ok
[06:06] <Appears> I've got a problem, I cant put my network card in monitor mode under kubuntu, but under ubuntu I  could put it in monitor mode.after I execute sudo iwconfig ath0 mode monitor, its tells me : Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device ath0; Invaild argument. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
[06:06] <`Matir> jester626, sure... is it NTFS or FAT32?
[06:06] <jester626> NTFS if memory serves me correctly
[06:06] <pokoko> Mike, do this -> "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils" just to check once.
[06:06] <Mike> module acx does not exsist
[06:06] <Mike> I have :p
[06:07] <pokoko> Mike, good good.
[06:07] <`Matir> jester626, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Windows
[06:07] <pokoko> Mike, "sudo ndiswrapper -i /location_of_your_wireless_driver/your_driver.inf"
[06:07] <Mike> doesn't work
[06:07] <Mike> anythign which has ndiswrapper in doesn't work
[06:08] <pokoko> Mike, what's the error message ?
[06:08] <Mike> no version installed or somthingl ike that
[06:08] <MalconRox> i need some help to install jre
[06:08] <pokoko> Mike, need exact error please
[06:08] <Mike> ok
[06:08] <LRKO> xD
[06:08] <pokoko> Mike, It's called GoOgle Magic
[06:08] <Mike> no versions of ndiswrapper found
[06:08] <pokoko> :)
[06:09] <Mike> couldn't find it on there.
[06:09] <jester626> damn internet
[06:09] <radoe> MalconRox: what's your problem? Just activate multiverse for sun-java5-jre or edgy-backports for sun-java6-jre
[06:10] <djm62> hoagie: I don't have anyone on msn to test this, but according to a cached FAQ: "Right click a buddy on your list and choose "Initiate Chat".  In the conversation window that appears, choose "Invite" from the "Conversation" menu to invite another"
[06:11] <pokoko> Mike, did you install "ndiswrapper-common" and "ndiswrapper-utils-*" ?? Just start synaptic and install everything with "ndiswrapper-" name in it.
[06:11] <gumpish> Does the server install of Dapper have a different dist name than the desktop install? If not, what exactly happens in June 2009 when updates for Dapper desktop are supposed to stop and updates for Dapper server are supposed to continue?
[06:11] <pokoko> Mike, i suppose "sudo ndiswrapper -v" doesn't work either ?
[06:11] <frying_fish> gumpish: it just means desktop packages won't be updated anymore really
[06:12] <Mike> no,I just installed ndiswrapper common
[06:12] <frying_fish> but servers (i.e. openssh server) will still get updates
[06:12] <gumpish> so anything dependant on gnome, kde...
[06:12] <Mike> and no it doesn't
[06:12] <pokoko> Mike, install everything that synaptic has a name with "ndiswrapper-" in it.
[06:12] <gumpish> ok, thanks
[06:12] <Mike> i dont know where to get these packages from
[06:13] <pokoko> Mike, "sudo synaptic" and then type "ndiswrapper" on the screen itself.
[06:13] <Pici> pokoko: He can't get online, so he wont be able to get anything from synaptic
[06:13] <quaaltest> does anyone know what could cause this? http://pastebin.ca/442868 i cannot use gnome because of it. would reinstalling gnome-panel be a bad idea?
[06:13] <Mike> No net connection on that machine!
[06:13] <pokoko> Mike, bloody hell.
[06:13] <pokoko> ok wait up.
[06:14] <user_> what's the command to check if i have direct rendering?
[06:14] <Generation> hey guys, I am having an issue with graphics
[06:14] <Generation> I am trying to enable 3d rendering but itseems not to be working
[06:14] <Generation> with an ati car
[06:14] <Generation> d
[06:14] <twiztr> Google failed me... Anyone know a flight sim that can run on a 866MHz box? (I know MicrosoftFlight 04 will run on a 450MHz, low end)
[06:14] <pokoko> Mike, i think all our options are exhausted since there's no net connection on that machine. bummer
[06:15] <Mike> :'(
[06:15] <user_> what's the command to check if i have direct rendering?
[06:15] <Mike> i need it though
[06:15] <pokoko> Mike, i know.
[06:15] <twiztr> pokoko: Cant he burn the repository to a DVD?
[06:15] <pokoko> Mike, and I am not asking for money. ;)
[06:15] <twiztr> or CD
[06:15] <Mike> :P
[06:15] <pokoko> twiztr, yes but in 4 hrs ?
[06:15] <Xappe> user_: glxinfo | grep direct
[06:15] <Mike> I cant do anythign with that comp,Linux was my last choice
[06:15] <pokoko> twiztr, yes! :)
[06:15] <pokoko> thanks.
[06:15] <twiztr> Why 4 hours?
[06:16] <pokoko> Mike, ok can you install stuffs into that machine with CD ?
[06:16] <Mike> Yup! :)
[06:16] <user_> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[06:16] <user_> direct rendering: Yes
[06:16] <user_> what does it mean?
[06:16] <pokoko> Mike, ok i'll see what can be done. wait up.
[06:16] <twiztr> Well, anyways, anyone know a flight sim, or no...?
[06:16] <Mike> yup
[06:16] <Mike> flightgear.org
[06:17] <Xappe> user_: that you're using the free radeon driver (wich gets that warning), and that you have direct rendering
[06:17] <twiztr> Mike: Sweet
[06:17] <Xappe> user_: something like that
[06:17] <user_> so now if i install wine i can play wow?
[06:17] <Generation> How do I get 3d rendering to work on my computer
[06:17] <Spliffster> hello, any advice on installing a java sdk of sun ? apt-cache search java | grep sdk does not return any results. do i have to do this manually ?
[06:17] <Generation> ?
[06:18] <user_> generation what videol card you have?
[06:18] <Lunar_Lamp> What is the role of the /sys die in ubuntu?
[06:18] <Generation> a radenon
[06:18] <Generation> like 9200
[06:18] <Generation> 128mb something like that
[06:18] <pokoko> Mike, Does that machine have libc6 > 2.4-1 and perl installed ?
[06:18] <user_> then it should work out of the box
[06:18] <Generation> na when i type in to see if it does
[06:18] <Generation> I get an error
[06:19] <sipior> Lunar_Lamp: it provides for easy inspection of certain kernel variables
[06:19] <pokoko> Mike, you can check that with "sudo dpkg -L libc6 && sudo dpkg -L perl"
[06:19] <Generation> [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT
[06:19] <Generation> is what I get
[06:19] <pokoko> Mike, I am assuming it does.
[06:19] <Lunar_Lamp> sipior, so it's not really necessary to back it up then?
[06:19] <sipior> Lunar_Lamp: also, it is not ubuntu-specific, but is provided for by the linux kernel proper
[06:19] <Lukemob> Yo.
[06:19] <Generation> I tried to use the ati drivers and , still no luck
[06:19] <Lukemob> .././server.mod/server.c:1344: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules
[06:19] <sipior> Lunar_Lamp: no, best to leave it alone
[06:19] <Mike> HUH?
[06:19] <pokoko> Mike, and also it has package "ndiswrapper-common" installed. correct ?
[06:20] <Lukemob> What does it mean?
[06:20] <Mike> Yes
[06:20] <xtknight3> pokoko, Mike: "dpkg -s libc6 | grep Version" gets the version of a pkg
[06:20] <sacater> if i install something, is there a way i can make it available to one user or group, and not allow the others to see or use it
[06:20] <Lunar_Lamp> sipior, yeah, i presumed so (rsync cannot access it), but wanted to check.
[06:20] <pokoko> xtknight, :)
[06:20] <Generation> user_, any Ideas
[06:20] <Spliffster> got it .. it's called
[06:20] <Spliffster> jdk
[06:20] <sorcerer22> guys iam trying to play this stream or lets listen to this station online and it aint opening up in amorok .. please coud you take a look and tell me if there is something i can do about it to listen here is the web site http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/innewmusicwetrust/petetong/
[06:21] <user_> it's something with fglrx.. this means you did smthn wrong..
[06:21] <sorcerer22> is it to do with my codecs or plug ins ?
[06:21] <tyoc> Hi there people, I have listened that ATI cards are bad... I whant to buy a laptop and aparently the ATI cards are more cheap..., the question is... the ATI ards are really bad... or only is more hard to install the driver????
[06:21] <pokoko> Mike, cool. let's get the .deb package for ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 @ http://librarian.launchpad.net/4631390/ndiswrapper-utils-1.8_1.18-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[06:21] <pokoko> Mike, download it first
[06:21] <user_> tyoc  harder to get them working
[06:21] <Mike> ok :)
[06:22] <tyoc> but they work???
[06:22] <tyoc> what is the hard??? to install the driver???
[06:22] <sipior> Lukemob: see http://www.ethereal.com/lists/ethereal-dev/200309/msg00343.html, inter alia
[06:22] <tyoc> or there is mork work to be done 1 time the driver is installed
[06:22] <user_> tyoc  some work out of the box some don't
[06:22] <tyoc> it depends then???
[06:22] <user_> from what i've read the nvidia driver are better..
[06:22] <tyoc> is random thingy??
[06:23] <tyoc> yes, I have a PC with nvidia and it installed and runned very fine... I have not experience with ATI...
[06:23] <user_> but there was one guy in forums that stated   that ati is also good .. it's just harder to make it work
[06:23] <sipior> Lukemob: a pointer defined as pointing to one type of variable is being dereferenced as another, compatible type. legal, but kicks out a warning
[06:23] <BVBBQ> hey im looking for some things to spice up my OS. dont get me wrong i like the defaults. but i just like things to be all special
[06:23] <Andeh> Hello
[06:23] <Mike> Sorry can you give me that link again? IE broke.
[06:24] <tyoc> ok, then I will give my shoot to a ATI laptop... that fill my specs
[06:24] <tyoc> :D
[06:24] <Andeh> I would like to install a lamp server on a normal ubuntu workstation. Is there a single package to do this and will it have a GUI?
[06:24] <pokoko> Mike, http://librarian.launchpad.net/4631390/ndiswrapper-utils-1.8_1.18-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[06:24] <twiztr> W00t for FlightGear being in Synaptic!
[06:24] <Mike> lol
[06:24] <user_> tyoc  the best thing to do  would be to test a ati/nvidia laptop before you buy it
[06:24] <MarcN> Andeh: there is no such thing as a LAMP server -- just Linux + Apache + MySQL + Perl/PHP/Python.
[06:24] <Mike> Do i need to download anything else?I dont wanna waste CD@s
[06:24] <Mike> *CD's
[06:24] <tyoc> by the time I buy it, some of you can give me a link to "some instructions" that work for install ATI out of the box???
[06:25] <Andeh> MarcN: Yes.
[06:25] <pokoko> Mike, you got a usb stick ?
[06:25] <pokoko> Mike, chuck it in there.
[06:25] <Mike> Yes it does work.
[06:25] <Mike> *Doesn't
[06:25] <Mike> So were doing it by cd's its easier
[06:25] <twiztr> I built an old P3 866MHz box for my living room, because I don't like everyone coming in my room to use my box.
[06:25] <tyoc> user_ at work I have 1 laptop with ati, I will try to test the driver there...
[06:25] <MarcN> Andeh: once you have those components  installed, you have to either write code or install some package that just happens to use those components.
[06:25] <pokoko> Mike, if you got USB stick, it's kind of easier because you don't have to waste CDs.
[06:25] <user_> that would be best
[06:25] <Mike> meh
[06:25] <pokoko> Mike, if not just burn it off to disc.
[06:26] <Mike> k
[06:26] <Andeh> MarcN: So you dont know if there is one
[06:26] <user_> maybe in the near future ati will support more the linux driver
[06:26] <marcot> Hello, I'm with a problem with the pppoe configuration, I set it to be loaded at boot, but it's not being load correctly.
[06:26] <user_> brb
[06:26] <MarcN> Andeh: There is no such thing.  What are you trying to do?
[06:26] <marcot> A conection is stabilished, because I can do poff, but I can't ping nothing.
[06:26] <Mike> Ok burning
[06:27] <twiztr> Fuck.
[06:27] <twiztr> *Opps*
[06:27] <marcot> I get: network is unreachable.
[06:27] <jester626> Andeh: Just install the Apache2, Mysql,PHP packages, howtoforge.com has some good step by step instructions
[06:27] <pokoko> Mike, cool
[06:27] <Andeh> MarcN: I just want a LAMP server with a GUI, i know the CD installs terminal only and i would be much more comfortable with a GUI, and i dont want to install the server edition and just ADD gnome or something,
[06:27] <twiztr> Sorry... I need to get a 3D card... Grr.
[06:27] <Mike> Install it right?
[06:27] <tyoc> :)
[06:27] <jester626> I have installed those packages on the desktop version to use as a test system
[06:27] <pokoko> marcot, sudo dpkg-reconfigure pppoeconf
[06:27] <Andeh> So there insnt an intergrated package?
[06:27] <Andeh> for LAMP
[06:27] <PriceChild> !lamp | Andeh
[06:27] <ubotu> Andeh: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:27] <Andeh> I KNOW
[06:27] <Andeh> Thanks
[06:28] <sidny4> how do I allow myself to use port 110 with out being in root (using thunderbird webmail extension)
[06:28] <PriceChild> Andeh, that has a link that explains the packages needed, there's only 4 or 5
[06:28] <marcot> pokoko: Nothing happens, is it right?
[06:28] <Andeh> I just want to know if theres an automated package that installs the whole bundle
[06:28] <pokoko> marcot, heh.
[06:28] <andres> #ubuntu-es
[06:28] <tyoc> !ATI
[06:28] <marcot> I'm using ubuntu 7.4
[06:28] <Andeh> ty for the link tho
[06:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:28] <pokoko> marcot, wait
[06:28] <PriceChild> Andeh, no, there's only 4 packages to install
[06:28] <diabolix> why is the vesa driver so slow on my laptop? it always worked fine in other distros...
[06:28] <tyoc> hehe
[06:28] <pokoko> marcot, can you please be little more specific ?
[06:28] <jester626> Andeh:  another option would be to set up the server version then install the gui after the install is complete
[06:28] <Andeh> PriceChild: Do they intergrate
[06:28] <PriceChild> marcot, feisty in #ubuntu+1 - it isn't finished
[06:28] <MarcN> Andeh: so what are you trying to do?
[06:28] <PriceChild> Andeh, they work out of the box. Read the guide :)
[06:29] <Andeh> jester626: Yes, i dont want that
[06:29] <Andeh> Ok, excellent, thanks
[06:29] <jester626> Andeh:  OK
[06:29] <diabolix> i just installed 6.10, and the vesa driver is ridiculously slow. is it because my refresh rate is wrong or something?
[06:29] <pokoko> marcot, "network is unreachable" is because your network isn't up and running. that's why.
[06:29] <Andeh> So i just install all four and they work?
[06:29] <Andeh> Yay
[06:29] <YbeddyJ> hey how can i create a theme that also includes the look shape and feel of the menu/task bar (panel)
[06:29] <marcot> pokoko: I'll paste the ifconfig result somewhere.
[06:29] <pokoko> marcot, cool
[06:29] <pokoko> !pastebin
[06:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:29] <Mike> Error Dependancy is not satifisyable
[06:29] <Terrasque> Andeh: just type "apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server"
[06:30] <pokoko> Mike, wtf ?
[06:30] <Andeh> THANK YOU!
[06:30] <Mike> thats hwat it says
[06:30] <Andeh> *Enormous sigh of releif*
[06:30] <Andeh> :D
[06:30] <pokoko> Mike, you just wasted a disk. I asked you whether you had libc6, perl and ndiswrapper-common installed and you said yes.
[06:30] <Mike> no i dind'nt
[06:30] <sidny4> how do I open up ports < 1024 to non-root users?
[06:30] <pokoko> god
[06:30] <Mike> I said only ndiswrapper-common
[06:30] <fuzzy_logic> hello world!
[06:31] <pokoko> Mike, you got usb stick somewhere ?
[06:31] <Mike> I need my USB key to work
[06:31] <Mike> Yup
[06:31] <pokoko> Mike, ok good.
[06:31] <paroxysm> sidny4: use sudo
[06:31] <tyoc> thx people g2g
[06:31] <CapaH> what is the ETA of a Feisty release?
[06:31] <penguin> hi
[06:31] <Andeh> Thanks Terrasque!
[06:31] <Andeh> Thats all i wanted
[06:31] <fuzzy_logic> i want to play quake 3 on ubuntu, i downloaded a .run file.. but when i try to open it, it opens in crossover.. does anyone know wich application i need to use to open .run files?
[06:31] <Andeh> Do they come with a GUI?
[06:31] <Terrasque> Andeh: great :)
[06:32] <diabolix> fuzzy_logic try "sh whatever.run" in a terminal.
[06:32] <sidny4> paroxysm: I know I can run thunderbird as sudo, but I'd rather let it have access to ports 110 and 25 without running it as root
[06:32] <Terrasque> Andeh: not really. I would recommend webmin and phpmyadmin for "gui"
[06:32] <fuzzy_logic> diabolix: tnx will try that
[06:32] <psyko_free> i have a probleme in my ftp server
[06:32] <pokoko> Mike, ok cool. in that machine what happens if you fire up synaptic and ask it to download ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 ? I know it'll fail but need to know the dependencies.
[06:32] <BVBBQ> what is the differance between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[06:32] <pokoko> !ubuntu
[06:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:32] <Mike> =/
[06:32] <pokoko> !kubuntu
[06:32] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[06:33] <Andeh> Terrasque: I know that, i meant some kind of gui for starting/stopping and maybe some very basic settings?
[06:33] <Andeh> I am not a big fan of the terminal ;)
[06:33] <sorcerer22> BVBBQ: umm kbuntu is the kde desktop ..
[06:33] <gewoell> an-irc.net
[06:33] <Jaikkanen> hi guys, i have a problem related to 686 kernels.. in order to install new drivers for my video card, i need to install 686 kernels.. but i am having much difficulty working out how to, i have googled for others in similar situations, no solutions yet
[06:33] <Mike> I cant. im not allowed on the PC unless you have a permentant way which will work 100%
[06:33] <chinny> hi. wondering if anyone has any ideas. when i try to use serpentine to burn a audio file to cd i get "Converting files failed".
[06:33] <BVBBQ> sorcerer22, ok, but in newbie speak. what are the actual physical differances.
[06:33] <fuzzy_logic> it worked.. thanks diabolix :)
[06:33] <marcot> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15980/
[06:34] <pokoko> Mike, your problem is so generic like saying "My Linux doesn't work". If you get ndiswrapper to work, i suppose your wifi will work. But goodluck! I ain't interested now.
[06:34] <Andeh> mike
[06:34] <Andeh> Woops
[06:34] <Mike> Your a fat lot of help -_-
[06:34] <Andeh> Sorry mike
[06:34] <Mike> its lk
[06:34] <Andeh> GAIM pasted that >_>
[06:35] <dfgas> i do i get my brightness control on my laptop to work? i have a gateway mt3418
[06:35] <sorcerer22> BVBBQ: umm mate iam sorry iam a newbie i just know that it uses the kde desktop instead of the gnome that comes with it i guess /11
[06:35] <sorcerer22> lol
[06:35] <MalconRox> i have used the synaptic to install the j2re1.4 and when i try to open a site that require the jre, it closes my firefox window. What can i to do?
[06:35] <BVBBQ>  ok, but in newbie speak. what are the actual physical differance between kubuntu and ubuntu. i realize that kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE, but how does that change what ubuntu is?
[06:35] <Jonny0stars> hello
[06:35] <Andeh> Ok guy's, LAMP installed
[06:35] <Andeh> Now what?
[06:36] <Andeh> How do i start it
[06:36] <Jonny0stars> any one know where i can get badram ?
[06:36] <Mike> Fags :P
[06:36] <pokoko> BVBBQ, Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE in it.
[06:36] <Jaikkanen> can someone please assist me in installing 686 kernels?
[06:36] <Jonny0stars> it wont let me apt-get it
[06:36] <chinny> dfgas - i've got a dell laptop and it's a function key then brightness up/down - see if you've got similar.
[06:36] <Andeh> How do i start Apache?
[06:36] <BVBBQ> pokoko, yes i realize that. but what is the differance.
[06:36] <`davo> does anyone know a tool I can use to find out the horizsync and vertrefresh of my monitor?
[06:36] <dfgas> chinny, i do too, but it don't work
[06:36] <pokoko> BVBBQ, Ubuntu in general is an Gnu/Linux distribution name that is financed by Canonical. It's a great distribution
[06:37] <Andeh> What is the command line for starting Apache??
[06:37] <quaaltest> does anyone know what could cause this? http://pastebin.ca/442868 i cannot use gnome because of it. would reinstalling gnome-panel be a bad idea?
[06:37] <sipior> MalconRox: try installing the more current sun-java6-plugin? 1.4 is pretty old
[06:37] <Terrasque> Andeh: personally i love the command line :) to start / stop : /etc/init.d/<service> <start|stop|reboot>
[06:37] <BVBBQ> pokoko i am aware what ubuntu is. i am using ubuntu now. but what are the benifits of KDE
[06:37] <psyko_free> i would you like configure iptables but im newbies
[06:37] <pokoko> BVBBQ, Kubuntu is Ubuntu simply but it has KDE as it's window manager.
[06:37] <Andeh> Terrasque: Eh?
[06:37] <Andeh> :?
[06:37] <Rebecca> BVBBQ: you use KDE instead of GNOME
[06:37] <Pici> BVBBQ: Its just a different desktop environment.
[06:38] <Andeh> Ok
[06:38] <twiztr> BVBBQ: Just install KDE and try it out. See what you think.
[06:38] <pokoko> BVBBQ, you can use KDE softwares in Gnome and vice versa
[06:38] <Terrasque> Andeh: for example to stop the apache web server : /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[06:38] <pokoko> BVBBQ, so it's more of a choice.
[06:38] <Andeh> Ok
[06:38] <sipior> quaaltest: try moving your .gconf directory to .gconf.bak and restarting
[06:38] <Andeh> BUT
[06:38] <BVBBQ> can one be said to be better looking than the other. or perhaps faster, or what?
[06:38] <twiztr> Its mostly a personnal bereverance
[06:38] <twiztr> pereferance
[06:38] <quaaltest> sipior, ok
[06:38] <Andeh> Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[06:38] <Andeh> (98): make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[06:38] <Andeh> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[06:38] <Andeh> Unable to open logs
[06:38] <chinny> dfgas - sorry - I am a newbie so don't have any other suggestions. I just know it has worked for me out of the box on both dapper and edgy. Sorry I can be any more help
[06:38] <Andeh> How do i fix the bind problem?
[06:38] <BVBBQ> so install KDE and try it out.
[06:38] <pokoko> Andeh, are you root ?
[06:39] <BVBBQ> ill try that.
[06:39] <pokoko> BVBBQ, sudo apt-get install kdelibs
[06:39] <Terrasque> Andeh: I think you're not root, that might be why :)
[06:39] <Andeh> pokoko: oops, ill try that with SUDO
[06:39] <quaaltest> sipior, i already did that with .gnome and .gnome2 is .gconf also in /home/username/ ?
[06:39] <Andeh> :)
[06:39] <pokoko> Andeh, it's "sudo".
[06:39] <pokoko> heh
[06:39] <pokoko> :)
[06:39] <Andeh> Yes
[06:39] <sipior> quaaltest: yep, or .gconfd
[06:39] <Andeh> Nope
[06:39] <Andeh> Doesnt work either
[06:39] <quaaltest> sipior, ok thanks
[06:39] <Andeh> same message
[06:39] <sorcerer22> guys iam trying to play this stream or lets listen to this station online and it aint opening up in amorok .. please coud you take a look and tell me if there is something i can do about it to listen here is the web site http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/innewmusicwetrust/petetong/
[06:39] <Pici> BVBBQ: Its sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop actually.
[06:39] <Pici> pokoko: The metapackage name is kubuntu-desktop
[06:39] <BVBBQ> Pici,  ah, thanks a ton
[06:40] <Terrasque> Andeh: that's strange
[06:40] <pokoko> Pici, oops. :) I stand to be corrected
[06:40] <pokoko> :)
[06:40] <Andeh> Terrasque: Ok i think i fixed it
[06:40] <Andeh> How do i check its working?
[06:40] <Andeh> Just my IP in firefox?
[06:40] <Terrasque> Andeh: yes :)
[06:40] <Andeh> Ok, that asks me for user/pass
[06:40] <Andeh> weird
[06:40] <Andeh> Is it my ubuntu ones?
[06:41] <Andeh> Cause i didnt set anything for apache
[06:41] <BVBBQ> one thing i am not so enjoying with linux is the momentary hesitation i get every time i do something drastic in terminal. ive already bricked one peice of electronics by tinkering. i dont plan on doing the same to my computer!
[06:41] <chinny> Can anyone help me please.... when i try to use serpentine to burn a audio file to cd i get "Converting files failed".
[06:41] <pokoko> sorcerer22, works fine for me
[06:41] <Andeh> Nope, my ubuntu user/pass doesnt work
[06:41] <pokoko> sorcerer22, you need realplayer for linux
[06:41] <Andeh> What is this?
[06:41] <pokoko> !info realplayer
[06:41] <Arrick> hi all
[06:41] <ubotu> Package realplayer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:41] <Arrick> quick question here
[06:42] <Terrasque> Andeh: what ip did you use
[06:42] <Generation> hey guys how do I turn 3d rendering on
[06:42] <sipior> BVBBQ: pretty hard to kill a linux box from the terminal, at least when not logged in as root
[06:42] <pokoko> wtf
[06:42] <Andeh> 81.205.90.152
[06:42] <Andeh> my one
[06:42] <sipior> BVBBQ: so play all you want :)
[06:42] <Terrasque> Andeh: it might be your isp's router
[06:42] <sorcerer22> pokoko: oh so i cant use it on amorok or anything else only realplayer ?
[06:42] <pokoko> !info realplay
[06:42] <ubotu> Package realplay does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:42] <Andeh> Hmm?
[06:42] <LjL> pokoko: it's in commercial, not sure it's there for edgy
[06:42] <Andeh> Thats odd
[06:42] <Andeh> OOooh
[06:42] <Andeh> This new modem thingy
[06:42] <Andeh> Sucks!
[06:42] <pokoko> sorcerer22, there you go
[06:42] <Andeh> :O
[06:42] <BVBBQ> hmmm 128mb download for kubuntu-desktop on shitty chinese internet = i will get to play after the third coming of christ.
[06:42] <LjL> !enter | Andeh
[06:42] <Arrick> I have a ubuntu server with ssh access.... I forgot to enable my RDP on my network, how can I access my Router web config with an ssh terminal?
[06:42] <ubotu> Andeh: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:42] <pokoko> sorcerer22, not sure about amarok
[06:42] <pokoko> sorcerer22, i use xmms for lots of stuff
[06:42] <Terrasque> Andeh: 127.0.0.1 or the servers internal ip then?
[06:42] <pokoko> sorcerer22, nice music
[06:42] <pokoko> :)
[06:43] <LjL> pokoko: it's probably available at medibuntu, for edgy
[06:43] <Andeh> Terrasque: Yes tried that it works. NOW, the problem is how to externally access me
[06:43] <sorcerer22> pokoko: cheers mate .. man too bad i cant listen to it :(
[06:43] <sorcerer22> lol
[06:43] <Andeh> I dont REALLY need this, just wondering
[06:43] <Generation> how do I turn 3d rendering on
[06:43] <pokoko> sorcerer22, well, it's just a matter of installing realplay. wait up
[06:43] <ompaul> BVBBQ calm down please
[06:43] <sipior> ompaul: ?
[06:44] <Terrasque> Andeh: you need to configure your isp's router to forward web traffic to the internal box
[06:44] <BVBBQ> ompaul, it was only an attempt at humor.
[06:44] <Generation> how do I turn 3d rendering on
[06:44] <Generation> how do I turn 3d rendering on
[06:44] <Generation> how do I turn 3d rendering on
[06:44] <BVBBQ> are there any other ways i can make my ubuntu look sexier? without smattering the computer with pron.
[06:44] <IdleOne> !repat | Generation
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <zyclop> Generation, define 3d rendering.
[06:44] <Andeh> I have a DSL modem, this first time i try external server access on it, my old one (winmodem) worked though. What i need to do?
[06:44] <IdleOne> !repeat | Generation
[06:44] <ubotu> Generation: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:45] <MKR> Will I be able to use the "one click" compiz enabling in feisty with the LiveCD? It would be nice to see if it works for me before commiting to it - I would rather not have to undo it from a command line :P
[06:45] <IdleOne> !eyecandy | BVBBQ
[06:45] <ubotu> BVBBQ: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:45] <BVBBQ> IdleOne, thanks.
[06:45] <effizi85> hai becca
[06:45] <LjL> Generation: what card
[06:45] <MalconRox> i have installed the jre1.6.0, but mozilaFF still asks for installation... how can i link jre and mozillaFF?
[06:45] <mtc> any IRC's for the UBUNTU server
[06:45] <Generation> sorry guys  I guess just frustrated, trying to get this 3d rendering to work cause somehow I turned it off and now games are real real choopy
[06:45] <IdleOne> !java | MalconRox
[06:45] <ubotu> MalconRox: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:45] <Generation> ati radien 9200
[06:45] <LjL> mtc: sorry?
[06:45] <sipior> MalconRox: what is the precise name of the package you installed?
[06:45] <Terrasque> Andeh: ask your isp
[06:45] <LjL> !ati > Generation    (Generation, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:46] <Andeh> Terrasque: No, its not them.
[06:46] <LjL> Generation: can't help besides that, i'm on nvidia
[06:46] <Generation> ok thanks
[06:46] <sipior> Andeh: do you have a domain name to use?
[06:46] <kane77> MKR, compiz works on festy like if you're changing resolution (it applies and you can choose "keep settings" ) after 40 seconds it turns it off...
[06:46] <Andeh> this loads when i go externally: /doc/flowctrl.htm
[06:46] <Generation> let me check and see
[06:46] <Andeh> No, i dont
[06:46] <quaaltest> sipior, i just moved both .gconf and .gconfd to .bak and rebooted. when logging in the only thing that is different is i have the default gnome desktop setup. the error message is still there..
[06:46] <MalconRox> sipior: jre-6u1-linux-amd64.bin
[06:46] <quaaltest> and i still cannot use gnome
[06:46] <sipior> quaaltest: then i think you're stuck reinstalling, sorry
[06:47] <quaaltest> sipior, reinstalling.. gnome-panel ?
[06:47] <MKR> kane77: What I mean is I would like to test it out before commiting to it. I want to see if it's going to make my system slow or cause a crash
[06:47] <MKR> :P
[06:47] <sipior> MalconRox: that isn't from the package repository, surely?
[06:47] <MKR> oh
[06:47] <zyclop> my cd ripping is quite slow. What ways are there to speed it up?
[06:47] <MKR> Missed the last part
[06:47] <sipior> quaaltest: try that at first, if it doesn't solve the problem...what did you change, by the way?
[06:47] <MKR> Yeah, that's good. Thanks
[06:47] <kane77> MKR, it's not that permanent, you still can change it on the fly with a click of button...
[06:47] <quaaltest> sipior, i tried accessing a .iso file
[06:47] <Terrasque> Andeh: you need to configure your router (the box you found when using external ip address) to forward the web connections, I would think that the router is delivered from your isp
[06:48] <quaaltest> i also restarted the computer after an ubuntu update
[06:48] <kane77> MKR, but yes I you can test it from livecd..
[06:48] <quaaltest> the error started coming up while i was still logged in though
[06:48] <MKR> Thanks
[06:48] <Terrasque> Andeh: sorry i cant answer all the time, I'm at work :)
[06:48] <francois> my kwallet never remembers my passwords, any ideas ?
[06:49] <chinny> :'( no one.....? .... when i try to use serpentine to burn a audio file to cd i get "Converting files failed".
[06:49] <sipior> Andeh: normally it works like this: register a domain, and then tell your registrar to associate this name with your ip address via the domain name service
[06:49] <Andeh> Terrasque: Listen. When i use windows (same machine) i used to use my winmodem. This worked PERFECTLY with servers, except when windows did something wrong :)
[06:49] <Andeh> Now i wanted to use linux with internet so i went to MediaMarkt (i am in holland) and bought a 50 euro ADSL modem. It has only one OUT cable, going to this machine.
[06:49] <Mike> How do i connect to my PC via ethernet?
[06:49] <sipior> Andeh: this requires that you have either a fixed ip address, or can use dynamic dns to keep this record updated
[06:49] <Terrasque> sipior: right now he need to get http connections his external ip in to his internal server
[06:49] <pirothezero> my desktop went to hell, i updated 160 packages or so and it asked me to restart when I did I was welcomed by this desktop http://obzftw.com/Screenshot-1.png instead of this one http://obzftw.com/Screenshot.png
[06:49] <Andeh> sipior: Why do i want a domain?
[06:50] <pokoko> sorcerer22, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28RealPlayer_10.29
[06:50] <Andeh> This is for testing purpouses
[06:50] <sipior> Andeh: then never mind
[06:50] <Andeh> oh :)
[06:50] <pokoko> sorcerer22, need realplayer 10
[06:50] <quaaltest> sipior, how do i run fsck on the installation partition without getting the warning that it is mounted and could cause severe damage?
[06:50] <Mike> Someone tell me how to connect to my pc via ethernet ?
[06:50] <pokoko> sorcerer22, and not realplayer 8
[06:51] <sipior> quaaltest: you don't! you absolutely don't!
[06:51] <quaaltest> Mike, ssh
[06:51] <francois> Mike: what do you need ?
[06:51] <sorcerer22> i hate realplayer man .. it used to gimem soo many issues
[06:51] <kane77> shoot, I just got my application to joost accepted and there is no linux version >:(
[06:51] <quaaltest> sipior, you cannot fsck the installation partition ?
[06:51] <sipior> quaaltest: yes, but you must boot from cd
[06:51] <kane77> Mike, vncvier?
[06:51] <quaaltest> ok
[06:51] <Juanca> I can anyone suggest me a good partitioning schema to have ubuntu and windows?
[06:51] <pokoko> sorcerer22, add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list at the bottom
[06:51] <quaaltest> thanks
[06:51] <pokoko> sorcerer22, deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[06:51] <quaaltest> brb
[06:51] <kane77> Mike, *vncviewer
[06:51] <Andeh> Terrasque: Did you catch that??
[06:52] <_aLeSD> hi all
[06:52] <Terrasque> Andeh: yes. However i fail to see the relevance
[06:52] <_aLeSD> sorry, which is the name of the application that install all the proprietary codec in ubuntu ?
[06:52] <Andeh> Terrasque: The RELEVANCE is that this has nothing whatsoever to do with my ISP.
[06:53] <sorcerer22> pokoko: ok i will but whats that lines supposed to do ./
[06:53] <_aLeSD> I mean I remember that there was one that does all in one time
[06:53] <Andeh> Terrasque: Can you make any guesses as to what might be causing this?
[06:53] <pokoko> sorcerer22, that will add the repository to download realplayer version 10 which is needed.
[06:53] <Juanca> I can anyone suggest me a good partitioning schema to have ubuntu and windows?
[06:53] <cloud7ff> automatix install all codecs
[06:53] <IdleOne> !xchat > LjL
[06:53] <IdleOne> hmmm
[06:53] <pokoko> sorcerer22, "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main" at the end of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:53] <_aLeSD> cloud7ff tahnsk
[06:54] <pokoko> sorcerer22, then do "sudo apt-get update"
[06:54] <sorcerer22> pokoko: ok the plug on or the whole p[rogram coz i dont want real player i want an alternative
[06:54] <ompaul> !automatix
[06:54] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:54] <Terrasque> Andeh: "< Andeh> This new modem thingy" <-- I think this new modem thingy is a router with full nat and dhcp server.
[06:54] <pokoko> sorcerer22, then do "sudo apt-get install realplay"
[06:54] <ompaul> and its job is done in medibuntu afik for feisty
[06:54] <sorcerer22> pokoko: i dont want the porgram its self if i just get in the plug in thats fine
[06:54] <sorcerer22> lol
[06:54] <Andeh> Terrasque: Then i wonder why it has a password without telling me, or letting me set one
[06:55] <Andeh> Whats a default for a router?
[06:55] <Andeh> the pass i mean
[06:55] <sorcerer22> pokoko: can i just get the plug in by adding teh link in my sources.list
[06:55] <pokoko> sorcerer22, there's a small library there that you copy to your browser's plugins dir
[06:55] <pokoko> sorcerer22, i don't think so
[06:55] <Andeh> NEVER MIND
[06:55] <Andeh> it works
[06:55] <Andeh> I tried admin/admin
[06:55] <Andeh> lol
[06:55] <Andeh> stupid defaults
[06:55] <IdleOne> Andeh, depends on router google your model or check manufacturer site
[06:55] <Andeh> Ok... ill have a look
[06:55] <Andeh> Thanks
[06:55] <Andeh> works now
[06:55] <sorcerer22> so i have to install real player crap .. :(..
[06:56] <pokoko> sorcerer22, heh
[06:56] <Andeh> Ok, i got into my routers config
[06:56] <cdavis> how can I probe and tell what type of video card this machine is running?
[06:56] <Andeh> HOW, do i get it to use my webserver instead?
[06:56] <Juanca> I can anyone suggest me a good partitioning schema to have ubuntu and windows?
[06:56] <sipior> cdavis: lspci
[06:56] <sorcerer22> pokoko: man .. you use xmms right .. does it work with that and .. is it better than amorok ?
[06:56] <sorcerer22> i used banshee but gave me soo many errors
[06:56] <IdleOne> cdavis, lspci
[06:56] <Jaikkanen> i am trying to fix a bug i have, however the solution which appears to be given at the bottom of the following link makes no sense to me, i am not sure what i am to do, can someone help.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/58929
[06:57] <cdavis> thanks
[06:57] <YogSothoth> hi!
[06:57] <pokoko> sorcerer22, well, xmms is more sort of personal audio system. it's fast and very slick.
[06:57] <Andeh> Ok, this is weird. Can i get my router to forward port 80 to my server, but change the config on another port?
[06:57] <pokoko> sorcerer22, ok give me your email
[06:57] <Arrick> how do I browse the internet from terminal on Ubuntu 6.06.1
[06:57] <Arrick> server install
[06:57] <pokoko> sorcerer22, i'll send you the plugin
[06:57] <Andeh> I mean port 80 opens my router config, can i change that to another port
[06:57] <pokoko> :)
[06:57] <Andeh> anyone
[06:57] <sipior> Arrick: install lynx or links
[06:57] <YogSothoth> I want to plug a headset and a mic in my computer and I want to ear my own voice in my ears. How can I do that easily?
[06:57] <ajehuk> Andeh - whatare you trying to achieve?
[06:57] <sorcerer22> pokoko: the plug in for what ?
[06:57] <IdleOne> Arrick, search for cli browser
[06:57] <YogSothoth> (for checking mic quality)
[06:58] <Jaikkanen> can someone help me understand how to solve my problem in relationship to this bug https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/58929
[06:58] <Andeh> ajehuk: Get my LAMP server online so visitors dont get forwarded to my Routers config :D
[06:58] <sipior> Andeh: you can forward all inbound port 80 to your internal machine, and then configure the modem from inside the network
[06:58] <kane77> Arrick, try links
[06:58] <pokoko> sorcerer22, never mind. just install the realplay and then copy nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt in your browser's plugin and then you delete realplayer. how's that ?
[06:58] <Andeh> sipior: What might the section for doing this be called?
[06:58] <mzanfardino> when I installed ubuntu I formatted my disk with LVM and now want to reduce the logical volume so that I can resize the partition and create a second partition on the same disk.  If I use lvreduce on an active volume, will I run the risk of destroying it?
[06:58] <Andeh> i have LAN, PPP, blabla
[06:58] <Andeh> where do i find port forwarding
[06:58] <Arrick> !links
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about links - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <Arrick> !lynx
[06:59] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[06:59] <sipior> Andeh: dig around, it's there
[06:59] <sorcerer22> pokoko: sounds great buuut .. i dunno how to do that :(
[06:59] <Andeh> Thanks
[06:59] <Terrasque> Andeh: look for nat, maybe
[06:59] <sorcerer22> pokoko:  this is my secod or third day on linux .. iam using staight and havent gone to windwss yet ,lol
[06:59] <pokoko> have you changed your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:59] <pokoko> that's ok
[07:00] <pokoko> it's a great music going on sorcerer22
[07:00] <pokoko> i like this
[07:00] <Andeh> Ok
[07:00] <Andeh> I configured it
[07:00] <ajehuk> Andeh - so you need to port forward 80 (from outside) to 80 on the machine with the webserver on it, if ou router supports port forwarding that should be all you need to do - if you router is configurable from the web that is probably a bad thing anyway (unless its ssh or https)
[07:00] <Jeeves_Moss> can anyone give me a hand with remote mounting a M$ share?
[07:00] <Terrasque> Andeh: pat, nat, napt, port forwarding, games and applications, and so on. Vendor always try to find new and friendly ways to name the same shit
[07:00] <sorcerer22> pokoko:  i miss that channel
[07:00] <Jaikkanen> someone please help me understand how to solve my problem in relation to this bug mesa (6.5.2-3ubuntu7) feisty; urgency=low
[07:00] <pokoko> sorcerer22, come on quick
[07:00] <Andeh> is this right:?
[07:00] <sorcerer22> pokoko: always used to tune into it ..
[07:00] <pokoko> sorcerer22, update your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:00] <sorcerer22> back home
[07:00] <Jaikkanen> whoops sorry, copied wrong text
[07:00] <Jaikkanen> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/58929
[07:00] <sorcerer22> wait install real player right
[07:01] <Andeh> Ok i need to reboot my modem wait a min
[07:01] <pokoko> sorcerer22, feel free to ask anytime
[07:01] <sorcerer22> pokoko: sudo apt-get install real player right
[07:01] <pokoko> sorcerer22, yes
[07:01] <pokoko> realplayer
[07:01] <pokoko> as a whole
[07:01] <pokoko> realplay
[07:01] <ajehuk> Terrasque - true - nothing like renaming port forwarding to 'applications and games' - tere was me thinking the router came with $random_game
[07:01] <sorcerer22> niicie i got it right w/o looking lol
[07:01] <pokoko> bummer
[07:01] <pokoko> sorcerer22, "sudo apt-get install realplay"
[07:01] <RedRose> how can i have ubuntu automount a partition? Such as my windows partition?
[07:02] <sipior> RedRose: add it to /etc/fstab
[07:02] <pokoko> !mount | Re
[07:02] <ubotu> Re: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:02] <pokoko> !mount | RedACE
[07:02] <ubotu> RedACE: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:02] <pokoko> !mount | RedRose
[07:02] <ubotu> RedRose: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:02] <pokoko> bummer
[07:02] <pokoko> !mounting
[07:02] <Terrasque> ajehuk: its very funny for me, doing phone support. Always have to guess what the vendor chose to use
[07:02] <sipior> well that was excessive...
[07:02] <ompaul> pokoko, DONT do that thanks
[07:02] <Andeh> Hello
[07:02] <RedRose> !DiskMounter
[07:02] <Andeh> Am i online?
[07:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:02] <pokoko> !mounting
[07:02] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:02] <pokoko> ompaul, ok
[07:02] <pokoko> :)
[07:02] <ajehuk> Andeh - posting here - I guess so..
[07:03] <Andeh> Yay online
[07:03] <sorcerer22> pokoko: ok mate its done .. installing and stuff now what
[07:03] <Andeh> :)
[07:03] <pokoko> sorcerer22, let it install mate
[07:03] <ompaul> pokoko, do this - /msg bot factoid
[07:03] <pokoko> sorcerer22, whatever i am not registered with freenode.
[07:03] <Andeh> Crap it didnt work
[07:03] <sorcerer22> pokoko: its done
[07:03] <Andeh> my IP still loads my router conf
[07:03] <Andeh> Maybe its just me
[07:03] <Andeh> can someone else try
[07:03] <wo0lverine> hello
[07:03] <ajehuk> Andeh - whats the IP?
[07:03] <Andeh> http://81.205.90.152
[07:03] <pokoko> sorcerer22, ok good. now "sudo dpkg -L reaplay" please
[07:03] <Andeh> you should be getting apache
[07:03] <Andeh> otherwise its wrong
[07:04] <ajehuk> .......
[07:04] <Andeh> If it asks for a login then its a bad thing :
[07:04] <sipior> Andeh: btw, you did change the router password before publishing the ip in a public channel, right?
[07:04] <ajehuk> Andeh - Its worse if it doesnt ask for a login... :) - but no - timeout here too
[07:04] <Andeh> crap
[07:04] <Andeh> Thats bad
[07:04] <pokoko> sorcerer22, did you get output from dpkg ?
[07:05] <Andeh> Ok, routers OFFICIALLY SUCK
[07:05] <Andeh> Next
[07:05] <pokoko> Andeh, if you get the cheap one. yes
[07:05] <sorcerer22> pokoko:  i did now what
[07:05] <ompaul> !enter > Andeh (read the message from the bot please)
[07:05] <pokoko> sorcerer22, "sudo dpkg -L realplay"
[07:05] <UberPsyX> hi i installed the unreal tournament demo but when the splash screen pops up and disappears nothing loads afterwards
[07:05] <sipior> leave off, ompaul, pedantry is tedious
[07:05] <pokoko> UberPsyX, i believe you need Unreal CD
[07:05] <Jonny0stars> any one know anything about badmem ?
[07:06] <Jonny0stars> or badram
[07:06] <aoupi> Jonny0stars: I have bad memory :)
[07:06] <sorcerer22> pokoko: i did what you told me now what
[07:06] <Jonny0stars> aoupi: :-P
[07:06] <UberPsyX> pokoko: nope, you download it and it should run with no disc or anything else
[07:07] <pokoko> sorcerer22, so see where is nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt installed ? need those 2 files.
[07:07] <ompaul> sipior, keeping the channel functional is kind of important
[07:07] <sipior> ompaul: i think it's plenty functional atm
[07:07] <pokoko> heh
[07:07] <sorcerer22> pokoko: holly shit tahts a lot of files to go through is there a search funtion or something '/
[07:08] <UberPsyX> need help with unreal tournament demo
[07:08] <Andeh> Testing testing... am i online
[07:08] <pokoko> sorcerer22, "sudo dpkg -L realplay | grep nphelix.so"
[07:08] <mzanfardino> ok, what about this: my lvm partition sits inside an etx2 partition. can I resize the etx2 part and not worry about the lvm?
[07:08] <UberPsyX> Andeh: yees
[07:08] <Andeh> Yay
[07:09] <ajehuk> Andeh - still no page on that IP
[07:09] <pike_> i have a fat32 partition ive created and put a dir struction on but when i rebooted it is read only now when mounted.  if i look in cfdisk it has  a [R]  under label column.  how do i remove this?
[07:09] <sorcerer22> ok i found the two files you were looking through
[07:09] <Cosmo> what a bunch of crap, I sent a message to the IT department of where I work so that I could set up the VPN in linux and their response was "we only allow the windows verision of Citrix, currently that is all of what our stuff is set up for" how about they hire some IT people that have some linux knowledge
[07:09] <UberPsyX> i need help with the linux unreal tournament demo
[07:09] <sorcerer22> pokoko: looking for i know what directories they are at .. now what
[07:09] <Jonny0stars> bit of a basic question but how do i patch my kernel
[07:09] <ajehuk> Andeh - ftp server, telnet, and a few other bits open and responding... but no webserver...
[07:09] <Jonny0stars> i have a .patch file how to i apply it
[07:10] <sipior> Cosmo: well, i sympathise, but you can hardly blame them for going with what they know
[07:10] <aoupi> Jonny0stars: man patch
[07:10] <Andeh> ajehuk: that sucks. How do i fix it?
[07:10] <ajehuk> Andeh - depends on your router
[07:10] <pokoko> sorcerer22, did you get hold of nphelix.so ?
[07:11] <sorcerer22> i know where thet files are at lol
[07:11] <sorcerer22> pokoko: i knwo where they are at
[07:11] <ajehuk> sorcerer22 - did you get your bits working OK? ou disappeared quite quickly - then again so did I....
[07:11] <sorcerer22> pokoko: now what do i do with them
[07:11] <Cosmo> even though more than likely their servers run linux
[07:11] <sorcerer22> ajehuk:  what bits .. i got teh mouse working and stuff yesterday lol
[07:11] <ajehuk> Andeh - I suggest you nip over to grc.com - take a look at the sheilds up part of that site, just so you get an idea of what you are opening up to the web...
[07:12] <ajehuk> sorcerer22 - always good..
[07:12] <Jonny0stars> cheers aoupi, i just noticed that actually i thought they where just saying "patch this file" and i was thinking well how do i patch it though lol
[07:12] <pokoko> sorcerer22, good. copy them to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins with "sudo cp /location/of/nphelix.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins"
[07:12] <Andeh> Not my fault my router is retarded and ubuntu doesnt have a firewall X-D
[07:13] <pokoko> Andeh, yes ubuntu has firewall.
[07:13] <pokoko> Andeh, it's called iptables
[07:13] <pokoko> !iptables
[07:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:13] <Andeh> lol
[07:13] <Andeh> Well i didnt touch iptables
[07:13] <robin_> Windows XP has to highest in the boot list HOWTO?
[07:13] <Andeh> And my router is still retarded
[07:13] <pokoko> Andeh, then use firestarter
[07:13] <pokoko> !firestarter
[07:13] <aoupi> Andeh: are you still trying to forward port 80?
[07:13] <Andeh> I am busy with my router now
[07:13] <Andeh> yes
[07:13] <Andeh> i am
[07:13] <pokoko> !info firestarter
[07:13] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[07:13] <aoupi> Andeh: http://portforward.com/
[07:14] <robin_> And where is the bootlist in the system
[07:14] <robin_> cmon 1114 users, someone have to know
[07:14] <sipior> pokoko: enough with the bot, already
[07:14] <zyclop> robin_,  is it enough that win is just hilightet at bootup?
[07:14] <Andeh> Yay firestarter
[07:14] <Andeh> Why would i want a firewall on linux anyway
[07:14] <coz_> ok guys , every now nd then i download a new copy of edgy and sometimes I get this error, like to day and need to knowif there is a work around for it      /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[07:14] <Andeh> The attacker might steal my open source scripts, oh no!
[07:14] <pokoko> sipior, heh.. i am not torturing it my friend. just helping out users.
[07:14] <pokoko> :)
[07:14] <sipior> Andeh: this a trick question?
[07:14] <robin_> zyclop: It needs to be the OS that boots in x seconds
[07:14] <aoupi> Andeh: on portforward.com click 'port forwarding' and select your router model
[07:14] <Andeh> No, it's a joke question.
[07:14] <Andeh> ok
[07:15] <zyclop> robin_, well, you will need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:15] <kothz> I (heart) new installs - 265 updated packages :)
[07:15] <pokoko> sorcerer22, done ?
[07:15] <zyclop> robin_, do you know how to open a terminal?
[07:15] <pokoko> sorcerer22, you are missing out something mate.
[07:15] <Andeh> ok i am reading,.........
[07:15] <AlbertoP> hello
[07:16] <pokoko> AlbertoP, hi
[07:16] <robin_> zyclop: I have it in gedit
[07:16] <radar1976> anyone know a good web hosting company?
[07:16] <nehpets> can't remove Open Office?
[07:16] <radar1976> i need to host about 10 domains
[07:16] <leszek> hi
[07:16] <zyclop> robin_, you might want to make a backup first
[07:16] <robin_> zyclop: My mom don't want to select win xp everytime she needs the pc :P
[07:16] <sorcerer22> pokoko: iam coping the thing wrong or something
[07:17] <robin_> zyclop: How can I restore when I'm not even in Ubuntu
[07:17] <pokoko> !pastebin | sorcerer22
[07:17] <ubotu> sorcerer22: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:17] <robin_> zyclop: LiveCD?
[07:17] <sipior> radar1976: i've had decent luck with golivehost, their support folks seemed pretty on the ball
[07:17] <pokoko> sorcerer22, use pastebin to paste where your 2 files are nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt
[07:17] <zyclop> robin_, then how can you acces it?
[07:17] <sorcerer22> "sudo cp /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/nphelix.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[07:17] <pokoko> sorcerer22, ok ok.. you've already got it.
[07:18] <robin_> zyclop: cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.2
[07:18] <sorcerer22> pokoko: sudo cp /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/nphelix.so  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[07:18] <pokoko> sorcerer22, fine. now restart firefox and see if that BBC music loads up
[07:18] <pokoko> sorcerer22, :)
[07:18] <sorcerer22> pokoko:  ok i wil
[07:18] <zyclop> robin_, yes, that'll do
[07:18] <robin_> zyclop: What is it I need to change
[07:18] <coz_> any work around for boot error     /bin/sh: can't access TTY; job control turned off
[07:18] <zyclop> robin_, the number after "default"
[07:18] <zyclop> right under all those hashes
[07:19] <robin_> zyclop:  Something after savedefault ?
[07:19] <sipior> coz_: that's a strange one. and google turned up nothing?
[07:19] <zyclop> robin_, no, there's a line that's default 0 or something
[07:20] <coz_> sipior, thought i wuld check here first before googling
[07:20] <pokoko> coz_, http://www.busybox.net/lists/busybox/2003-April/008240.html
[07:20] <zyclop> robin_, line 14
[07:20] <robin_> zyclop: ## default grub root device
[07:20] <robin_> ## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
[07:20] <robin_> # groot=(hd0,1)
[07:20] <kaktuskatta> Hi! I want to upgrade my version of Opera to 9.20 (the latest), but since I already have this browser installed, I get an errormessage saying that the program already exists on my comp! How do I upgrade?
[07:20] <robin_> zyclop: See it
[07:20] <kaktuskatta> I downloaded the file as *.deb
[07:20] <Emelian> Hi everyone! :)
[07:21] <pokoko> sorcerer22, all good ?
[07:21] <ompaul> kaktuskatta, how did you install it the first time
[07:21] <robin_> zyclop: What to do with it
[07:21] <zyclop> robin_, change the number to the position of windoze minus one
[07:21] <Emelian> Just installed Ubuntu for the first time in my life! Looks real great! Why haven't I done this before? :)
[07:21] <kaktuskatta> ompaul: Using a *.deb from opera.com
[07:21] <zyclop> robin_, grub starts counting at 0
[07:22] <pokoko> kaktuskatta, uninstall the old opera
[07:22] <ompaul> kaktuskatta, dpkg -r opera might hekp
[07:22] <robin_> ok
[07:22] <Andeh> oK
[07:22] <tidrion> Emelian: congrats
[07:22] <Andeh> I followed the tutorial
[07:22] <pokoko> kakado, sudo apt-get remove opera
[07:22] <robin_> zyclop: Thx
[07:22] <tidrion> Emelian: Eye opening isn't it
[07:22] <kaktuskatta> ompaul: what about the settings, bookmarks etc?
[07:22] <Andeh> On portforward.com
[07:22] <robin_> zyclop: Gonna try it out now brb!
[07:22] <Andeh> Its not working
[07:22] <stephen> hello everyone
[07:22] <zyclop> robin_, if its the wrong entry, just change it until it works
[07:22] <zyclop> robin_, and np
[07:22] <tidrion> Emelian: Makes you wonder why you ever paid for an oS
[07:22] <ompaul> kaktuskatta, they are local to your user
[07:23] <pokoko> kaktuskatta, why not join #opera and ask how to copy all the bookmarks ?
[07:23] <txete> ubuntu espaol
[07:23] <txete> ??
[07:23] <kaktuskatta> ompaul: Which means they don't dissapear ?
[07:23] <kothz> txete: #ubuntu-es
[07:23] <Legu> Hi. I have problem with memory. I have tested memory with memtest86+ and it gives me errors. Can I somehow ignore those bad areas? I know badmem, but it doesn't even boot from the live-cd (crashes).
[07:23] <pokoko> ompaul, i believe opera installs everything in ~/.opera ?
[07:23] <kaktuskatta> Sorry, I'm a former windows user, so some of these questions seems obvious for you ;)
[07:23] <aoupi> Andeh: did you choose apache as application?
[07:23] <Andeh> aoupi: No, it didnt want me to
[07:23] <Bales> Is there any sort of process you need to go through in Linux for the computer to recognize an OCed CPU?
[07:24] <anonym_> Hy all, where is the german chanel?
[07:24] <Andeh> I wasnt asked to choose it
[07:24] <Andeh> i rebooted the modem and the changes are gone
[07:24] <sipior> Legu: probably safest just to replace it
[07:24] <Legu> The memory?
[07:24] <Andeh> How do i "save changes to flash memory and reboot the modem"?
[07:24] <Andeh> Cause i must be skipping something, eveyr time i reboot it deletesit
[07:25] <zyclop> Lex0file, there's one on freenode, I think
[07:25] <pokoko> Andeh, routers work on it's ram. they get deleted when you reboot.
[07:25] <Andeh> pokoko: So i need to type it in every morning?
[07:25] <jusama14> cdega said that my video card wasn't set up properly
[07:25] <sipior> Andeh: there's no save button anywhere? i had a modem that would delete config changes if i switched tabs before saving, perhaps you have a similar problem
[07:25] <cypenguin> hi all. my ubuntu-606 freeze inside virtualbox after "Uncompressing Linux...", any help?
[07:25] <Andeh> lovely
[07:25] <Lex0file> zyclop: whats the name of this server?
[07:25] <pokoko> Andeh, reboot your router and your machine and then change the port forwarding settings.
[07:25] <jusama14> how can i fix this?
[07:26] <pokoko> sorcerer22, all good mate ? ;)
[07:26] <zyclop> Lex0file, freenode?
[07:26] <ajehuk> kaktuskatta - just ask, someone will help :)
[07:27] <sorcerer22> pokoko:  umm yeah i dont get a an error buuut ..
[07:27] <kaktuskatta> ajehuk: Waiting in patience ;)
[07:27] <pokoko> sorcerer22, does it load up or not ?
[07:27] <fuzzy> will cnr be in feisty?
[07:27] <sorcerer22> pokoko:  umm there is not sound it says .. its playing but i cant hear anything
[07:28] <fuzzy> fuzzy@localhost ~ $
[07:28] <pokoko> sorcerer22, adjust your sound with gnome-volume-manager or type "alsamixer" in the terminal
[07:28] <ajehuk> kaktuskatta - meh - missed your question earlier . soz - reading back up the channel now. :)
[07:28] <sorcerer22> pokoko:  the windows loads up and what not but i cant hear anything
[07:28] <fuzzy> will cnr be in feisty?
[07:28] <zyclop> sorcerer22, are your speakers plugged in?
[07:28] <pokoko> heh
[07:28] <Enverex> Does anyone know the next version of Ubuntu after Feisty?
[07:28] <sipior> fuzzy: what's cnr?
[07:28] <jrib> !gutsy | Enverex
[07:28] <ubotu> Enverex: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[07:28] <br24> next version is gutsy gibbon
[07:29] <ajehuk> cnr = click n run (?)
[07:29] <sorcerer22> yeah i ws listning to music on amrok b4
[07:29] <pokoko> click n root
[07:29] <pokoko> heh
[07:29] <sipior> lol@pokoko
[07:29] <Andeh> i dont see a save button on that page
[07:29] <Andeh> theres one on another but it deletes the data if you leave the config page
[07:29] <Enverex> Thanks
[07:29] <Andeh> stupid
[07:29] <sorcerer22> aight mayte
[07:29] <sipior> our new security system...
[07:29] <sorcerer22> pokoko:  it works lol
[07:29] <Emelian> Thank you, tidrion! Yes... Why did I ever waste my bucks to Bill gates? :)
[07:29] <pokoko> sorcerer22, good good.
[07:29] <pokoko> sorcerer22, ;) enjoy my friend!
[07:30] <pokoko> :)
[07:30] <sorcerer22> umm the music is skipping i .
[07:30] <sipior> Andeh: at this point, you may consider consulting the manual...
[07:30] <pokoko> sorcerer22, shut your p to p
[07:30] <pokoko> heh
[07:30] <sorcerer22> its not smooth the stream why is that
[07:30] <sorcerer22> what you mean p to p ?? i only have ktorrent running ?
[07:30] <Andeh> sipior: it doesnt have one
[07:30] <pokoko> sorcerer22, whatever
[07:30] <sipior> Andeh: nice! hope you kept the receipt
[07:31] <Andeh> where do i find apache.conf?
[07:31] <surviver> hy, can anyone help me i found my drivers of nvidia to install its an .run file anyone can say me how i can install it?
[07:31] <AlexC_> Hey,
[07:31] <Andeh> i need to enter my ip there i think
[07:31] <ajehuk> Andeh - you router wouldnt be a Necomm NB1300 DSL router would it?
[07:31] <pokoko> Andeh, god why you need Apache now ?
[07:31] <pokoko> heh
[07:31] <Andeh> Because this whole thing is about apache
[07:31] <Andeh> I think apaches causing the trouble
[07:31] <pokoko> Andeh, so you want people to acess your http server ?
[07:31] <Andeh> Now where is apache.conf
[07:31] <Andeh> YES
[07:32] <zyclop> !nvidia | surviver
[07:32] <ubotu> surviver: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:32] <sorcerer22> pokoko: daam it .. still is not smooth like whats wrong i have a fast connection ..
[07:32] <pokoko> Andeh, load your browser and point it to localhost:80
[07:32] <Andeh> I can do it locally, but my IP directs to my router
[07:32] <surviver> k
[07:32] <Epic720> Does anyone have any real solid information on when the 8600 and lower geforce series cards are coming out?
[07:32] <Andeh> Now where is apache.conf
[07:32] <sipior> Andeh: where did you leave it?
[07:32] <Andeh> it is not using my external ip because i dont think i configured it
[07:32] <Andeh> I didnt
[07:32] <ajehuk> Andeh  - ou havent set your pc up with the same IP as your router have you?
[07:32] <pokoko> sorcerer22, don't know about that mate. maybe some other process is hogging your bandwith ?
[07:32] <Andeh> I just apt-getted it
[07:32] <Andeh> ajehuk: No, and i said my routers retarded
[07:33] <pokoko> Andeh, what's your IP ?
[07:33] <sorcerer22> pokoko:  how can i check
[07:33] <Andeh> Now someone PLEASE tell me where the hell apache.conf is
[07:33] <Andeh> I didnt put it anywhere
[07:33] <Emelian> Anyone here that got experience with Linux (Ubuntu) drivers for ATI? Right now the graphics is accelera is bad and I only got flickering 60 Hz... :(
[07:33] <surviver> zyclop: he sais event not found...
[07:33] <sorcerer22> pokoko:  if you liked that channel you would like www.etn.fm and www.di.fm .. enjoy mate
[07:33] <jrib> Andeh: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf  if you are using apach2
[07:33] <kothz> Take three deep breaths, Andeh :) type: find / -name httpd.conf
[07:33] <pokoko> Andeh, /etc/apache2/
[07:33] <Andeh> Thank you
[07:33] <ajehuk> or /etc/apache
[07:33] <pokoko> sorcerer22, cool.
[07:33] <pokoko> sorcerer22, thanks mate ;) great stuff
[07:34] <ajehuk> Emelian - I have payed with the ati drivers...
[07:34] <zyclop> surviver, well, then I just ran out of clue.
[07:34] <sorcerer22> pokoko:  anytime at least i could pay you back for yor help :) .. hey dude how can i see whats hogging my bandwith ?
[07:34] <aramilmoonmist_> anyone have any experience with fglrx and 3d rendering?
[07:34] <ajehuk> Emelian - my card is a radeon 9550, for reference..
[07:34] <AlexC_> aramilmoonmist_: I guess a lot of people have, so ... just ask your question.
[07:34] <jusama14> does anyone know how i can get the latest drivers for my video card on ubuntu?
[07:35] <pokoko> sorcerer22, "sudo netstat -tupan |less" will show you what processes are using the network
[07:35] <aramilmoonmist_> well, fglrxinfo is returning all the right things, and direct rendering is enabled, but glx gears is giving me about 250 fps and cedega refuses to believe i have 3d
[07:36] <Andeh> Where do i set my external address in apache.conf
[07:36] <AlexC_> hum? you don't afaik
[07:36] <svg> any smart guys on Gnome/Nautilus stuff? I'm looking to change the default windows size for the Gnome save/as dialog
[07:36] <Andeh> What section?
[07:36] <sipior> home for me, later gentlemen
[07:36] <AlexC_> Andeh: you don't ... also, this is an apache question ... so, why not head into #apache =) just cos your using Ubuntu doesn't make it a ubuntu question :P
[07:37] <pokoko> svg, we are all dumb people.
[07:37] <iresprite> Hey, all.
[07:37] <Andeh> AlexC_: Ok, this sucks. Im going to bed now.
[07:37] <pokoko> Andeh, heh
[07:37] <svg> pokoko: thought so :)
[07:37] <Emelian> Ajehuk... Any clues on the ATI drivers?
[07:37] <iresprite> Anyone here have decent network/port knowledge?
[07:37] <Andeh> ...And all i wanted was a lamp server
[07:37] <kothz> Andeh: when you wake up, check out the ServerName directive
[07:37] <sorcerer22> pokoko: could you take a look at my list and tell me if something is up ?
[07:37] <Andeh> Hell, windows takes 10 minutes and no hassle...
[07:37] <AlexC_> iresprite: just ask your question!
[07:37] <AlexC_> Andeh: don't troll.
[07:37] <pokoko> !pastebin | sorcerer22
[07:37] <ubotu> sorcerer22: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:37] <ajehuk> Emelian : what kind of clues??
[07:38] <iresprite> AlexC_: I've tried asking twice today and got no response either time.
[07:38] <AlexC_> Andeh: and for the record, Apache takes 2 mins to install
[07:38] <Andeh> All i get is server-name and server-status
[07:38] <iresprite> So this time I'm just trying to se if anyone will respond. :)
[07:38] <Andeh> Yes, but setting it up takes even less
[07:38] <AlexC_> Andeh: #apache
[07:38] <Emelian> I guess 9550 drivers would work for me as well....
[07:38] <jusama14> does anyone know how i can get the latest drivers for my video card on ubuntu?
[07:38] <sorcerer22> pokoko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15985/
[07:38] <sorcerer22> pokoko: lad ill be back
[07:38] <aramilmoonmist_> iresprite: sane here ><
[07:38] <Andeh> Is that wat im looking for, server-name and server-status??
[07:38] <aramilmoonmist_> same
[07:38] <AlexC_> Andeh: #apache
[07:39] <Andeh>  /explode #apache
[07:39] <iresprite> Anyway, I'm running a DAAP server on my Ubuntu box, and trying to use mDNSResponder to advertise my music for itunes.
[07:39] <Andeh> woops wrong command
[07:39] <ajehuk> Emelian - first off  fglrx the open source drivers just work, although there are still some issues with various bits of the ati driver as far as composite extentions and dri are concerned...
[07:39] <pokoko> sorcerer22, nothing significant is hogging up the network
[07:39] <iresprite> But itunes is telling me that it can't access the share (even though it can see it), and that I should check if there's a firewall preventing access to the port.
[07:39] <aramilmoonmist_> fglrxinfo is returning all the right things, and direct rendering is enabled, but glx gears is giving me about 250 fps and cedega refuses to believe i have 3d
[07:40] <AlexC_> ajehuk: fglrx is not the open-source ATI driver,
[07:40] <Emelian> Ajehuk... Can I install fglrx direct from Ubuntu?
[07:40] <ajehuk> AlexC_ - is it? fair enough
[07:40] <iresprite> So, while I'm successfully advertising the share, somehow the port isn't open. How do I find out what ports are open
[07:40] <AlexC_> ajehuk: no, it's not :P fglrx is the official ATI/AMD one, the driver "ati" is the open source one
[07:41] <iresprite> Also, any thoughts on how to open this port up?
[07:41] <ajehuk> AlexC_ - of course - ignore me - I have my non-free repos active,
[07:41] <sarah>  /server irc.gamesurge.org
[07:43] <Bongo`> hi, im trying to control my computer remotely with tightvnc, have enabled remote desktop-settings, i can connect + controll the computer but the imge in tighvnc doesnt update
[07:43] <pokoko> sorcerer22, are you sure in your "/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/", you have both nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt ?
[07:43] <ompaul> %test
[07:43] <mikedep333> hey guys, I deleted my software raid 0 array, and when I go to recrate it, the striping is off or something
[07:43] <mikedep333> is there a way to recreate the array using mdadm or something?
[07:43] <ompaul> @test
[07:43] <ompaul> !test
[07:43] <ubotu> Failed.
[07:43] <ompaul> !botsnack
[07:43] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:44] <pokoko> !beer
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <pokoko> :/
[07:44] <pokoko> ompaul, fix it
[07:44] <pokoko> heh
[07:44] <Emelian> I tryed to search for ATI drivers in the Synaptic Package Manager, but ended up with lots of hits of all sorts that wasn't about ATI and graphics.
[07:44] <AlexC_> Emelian: search for fglrx
[07:45] <AlexC_> and install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:45] <SpacePuppy> !ati
[07:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:45] <clarjon1> spacepuppy: cool bot
[07:45] <clarjon1> I wonder...
[07:45] <Emelian> Thanks Ubotu...! I look at that page! :)
[07:45] <clarjon1> !nvidia
[07:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:46] <psiscape> so is 7.06 really being released tomorrow?
[07:46] <AlexC_> Emelian: uBOTu is a bot =)
[07:46] <pokoko> AlexC_, no it's not
[07:46] <AlexC_> psiscape: 7.06? not a version, and no release is being released tomorrow :P
[07:46] <pokoko> AlexC_, :)
[07:46] <pokoko> AlexC_, it's a superhuman
[07:46] <roadfish> how can I get my PDA to work? when I do "pilot-dlpsh -p usb: -c ls" nothing happens. It just sits there doing "Listening for incoming connection on usb:".
[07:46] <AlexC_> pokoko: doh, I forget
[07:46] <psiscape> usually you can get teh release canidate the week prior, but they didn't release it
[07:46] <pokoko> heh
[07:47] <AlexC_> psiscape: 7.04 RC has been delayed
[07:47] <psiscape> oh, it's o4 :D
[07:47] <psiscape> lol
[07:47] <AlexC_> yep =)
[07:47] <davisc> roadfish: I had problems with that. Something I wrote up might help http://www.killminus9.net/index.php?article=18
[07:47] <AlexC_> psiscape: the last 2 digets
[07:47] <psiscape> the bug list was really bad
[07:47] <AlexC_> psiscape: dam that enter button, last 2 digits mean the month it's released it
[07:47] <psiscape> oh
[07:47] <AlexC_> psiscape: first digit is the year
[07:47] <psiscape> lol
[07:48] <eavatar> I need some help here. For some reason my computer don't recognize my usb headset
[07:48] <roadfish> davisc: thanks
[07:48] <davisc> roadfish: Let me know if it works, will ya?
[07:48] <Emelian> Ubotu is a Bot? Aww....! Seems to be a nice bot then! Could probably have a pleasant conversation and a couple of beers with that bot then! :)
[07:48] <ompaul> psiscape, the channel for feisty / 7.04 is #ubuntu+1 not here
[07:48] <clarjon1> anyone know what channel has the most "3l337 haxxor" users?  I wanna log them for laughs later...
[07:48] <AlexC_> clarjon1: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:48] <sorcerer22> pokoko:  iam back
[07:48] <pokoko> clarjon1, go to undernet. you'll find a lot of them
[07:49] <clarjon1> thx
[07:49] <clarjon1> any specific chan?
[07:49] <hderms> i cant boot into windows even though i used fixboot
[07:49] <pokoko> clarjon1, that's what "/list" is for
[07:49] <hderms> my grub entry was like this rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[07:49] <ompaul> !offtopic
[07:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:49] <hderms> makeactive
[07:49] <roadfish> davisc: sure
[07:49] <hderms> chainloader +1
[07:49] <hderms> and then boot
[07:50] <ompaul> clarjon1, this channel is not for chatter thanks, it is a support channel
[07:50] <clarjon1> sorry
[07:50] <pokoko> yes it is
[07:50] <CapaH> When is Feisty Fawn *release* scheduled?
[07:50] <pokoko> everyone is chatting after all isn't it ompaul ?
[07:50] <AlexC_> 19th April, #ubuntu+1
[07:50] <pokoko> :)
[07:51] <iresprite> AlexC_: Any thoughts?
[07:51] <AlexC_> I have plenty of thoughts,
[07:51] <sorcerer22> pokoko: yeah bothe plug ins are there
[07:51] <pokoko> ompaul, cool
[07:51] <pokoko> :)
[07:52] <hderms> i cant get grub to boot xp
[07:52] <hderms> and cant boot into xp at all since installing ubuntu
[07:52] <hderms> fdisk shows the windows partition as /dev/hda2
[07:52] <roadfish> davisc: nope, didn't help me ... I have a Sony Clie so I must have a different issue.
[07:52] <hderms> and i used fixboot on the windows partition
[07:52] <iresprite> AlexC_: any thoughts on my issues with unavailable ports?
[07:53] <davisc> roadfish: Pity :-.
[07:53] <davisc> :-/ even
[07:54] <hderms> can anyone help me here
[07:54] <ompaul> hderms,  can you put the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and also the result of "sudo fdisk -l"
[07:54] <iresprite> Right, so AlexC was all talk. Awesome.
[07:55] <Shafto> Lot of banning on here tonight XD
[07:55] <rob-west> !ubuntu feisty
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu feisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <rob-west> !feisty
[07:55] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[07:56] <Bongo`> anyone got remote desktop to work using ubuntu 7
[07:56] <hderms> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15988/
[07:56] <sorcerer22> ajehuk: hey mate you there
[07:57] <vio> hiya guyes
[07:57] <hderms> ompaul i sent it to you
[07:57] <vio> how can i fix my wlan?!
[07:57] <Shafto> heya vio
[07:57] <vio> :)
[07:57] <ompaul> hderms, reading it
[07:58] <rob-west> does 7.04 have an IRC client installed
[07:58] <rob-west> or no
[07:58] <vio> rob-west: yes
[07:58] <vio> rob-west: it's called "gaim"
[07:58] <rob-west> finally
[07:58] <DEVR> hi
[07:58] <Shafto> rob-west: Yeah gaim, little on the basic side though :P
[07:58] <rob-west> why not xchat
[07:58] <fuzzy_logic> hi DVR
[07:59] <Shafto> rob-west: Ermm i dunno, just get it though, not hard :)
[07:59] <vio> rob-west: gaim is universla can you it with msn+irc++++ lots more
[07:59] <vio> universal *
[07:59] <rob-west> i know
[07:59] <Shafto> gaim = <3
[07:59] <rob-west> i use it for MSN Aim and Yahoo
[07:59] <rob-west> well 2x Yahoo names at once
[07:59] <rob-west> :)
[07:59] <vio> ok, it comes with feisty..
[07:59] <vio> anyways.. wlan problems.. :(
[07:59] <Shafto> !wireless
[07:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:00] <vio> yeah. i've been there
[08:00] <Shafto> vio: Best i can help :P
[08:00] <Lin> who/how is created the file /var/run/network/ifstate?
[08:00] <vio> i need to remove the old drivers..
[08:00] <hderms> ompaul: any ideas?
[08:00] <ompaul> hderms, so the problem is that the windows entry is wrong - it should be 0,2 or 0,3 or 0,4 don't know which one - won't hurt to set up three other entries that say that and then restart the box "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[08:00] <jorisvd> does anybody know how to install ubuntu 6.06 on an Apple eMaxc
[08:00] <vio> jorisvd: you need "bootcamp"?
[08:00] <jorisvd> no
[08:01] <ompaul> hderms, when someone is looking at something give them time to construct an answer
[08:01] <jorisvd> i always get a error on my eMac, from the ATI graphical cart
[08:01] <kneeki> Anyone have any ideas why my PC screen looks like it pukes colors (like a tiedie effect) when I CTRL ALT F1, or just log out?
[08:01] <jorisvd> "Can't start Xserver"
[08:01] <kneeki> Once it does the Tiedie thing, it wont go away, I have to restart
[08:02] <Shafto> jorisvd: Whats the specific error though?
[08:02] <jorisvd> i think that ubuntu doesn't support my ATI-card ("fatal error in line ... quiting now")
[08:03] <Shafto> jorisvd: Laptop?
[08:03] <ror> jorisvd, it's more likely it's supported but configured wrong
[08:03] <vio> jorisvd: ubuntu should support your card, what kind of card is it?
[08:03] <sioux> hi
[08:03] <kneeki> jorisvd: I'm using Ubuntu on my laptop that has an ATI card
[08:03] <sioux> !cnr
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cnr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <rob-west> im gonna run feisty in VM
[08:03] <Shafto> rob
[08:04] <jorisvd> wait a minute i will see
[08:04] <Shafto> rob-west: good on you :P
[08:04] <rob-west> i believe in free and some stolen software
[08:04] <rob-west> :P
[08:04] <Shafto> rob-west: You read the talk about gusty already?
[08:04] <kneeki> jorisvd: try a 'fglrxinfo' and 'glxinfo | grep direct' to see if your configured correctly.
[08:04] <jorisvd> it's an ATI Radeon 9200 with 32MB memory
[08:04] <ror> what animal is gusty?
[08:04] <rob-west> whats Gusty
[08:05] <Shafto> rob-west: Next one after feisty
[08:05] <bryce> gutsy not gusty
[08:05] <ror> good, gutsy sounds better
[08:05] <bryce> gutsy gibbon - like a brave ape
[08:05] <Shafto> bryce: Stupid reading error from me XD
[08:05] <Jeeves_Moss> I hate to break into the debate, but can someone give me a hand with my box?
[08:05] <jorisvd> @kneeki: where shoud i type it in?
[08:05] <bryce> :-)
[08:05] <kneeki> jorisvd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:05] <ror> was hoping for Gutsy Gnu, if nothing else to irk stallman
[08:05] <rob-west> ill try Feisty Fawn
[08:05] <vio> !ask Jeeves_Moss
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask jeeves_moss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <kneeki> jorisvd: And you'd type it in Terminal
[08:05] <bokey> gibbon is a monkey like creature. our distant cousin
[08:05] <vio> !ask | Jeeves_Moss
[08:05] <ubotu> Jeeves_Moss: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:06] <sorcerer22> how do i bring up man pages for par ?
[08:06] <rob-west> 15 minutes till i can try Feisty
[08:06] <Jeeves_Moss> vio:  thanks, I know how to play with the bot also.  what I need is a hand figuring out why my second NIC won't come on-line, as well as why when I put my box in the DMZ, I can't SSH into it remptly.
[08:06] <kneeki> !love | kneeki
[08:07] <jorisvd> @kneeki: thanks, i will try it!
[08:07] <rob-west> will there be a DVD release
[08:07] <Shafto> rob-west: Why would they need a dvd release?
[08:07] <bokey> sorcerer22: man something
[08:07] <vio> Jeeves_Moss: first thing i learned.. playing around with the bot :), can't help you though :(
[08:07] <rob-west> well Ubuntu 6.1 has a DVD
[08:07] <Jeeves_Moss> vio:  ok.
[08:08] <Jeeves_Moss> !taunt vio
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about taunt vio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <vio> !botsnack
[08:08] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:08] <Shafto> rob-west: Thats something new to me, proves how much time i spent looking on the ubuntu site
[08:08] <sorcerer22> bokey: thnx found out
[08:08] <kneeki> !love
[08:08] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[08:08] <Shafto> !abuse | Jeeves_Moss
[08:08] <ubotu> Jeeves_Moss: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:08] <Shafto> :P
[08:08] <kneeki> I love you, ubotu.
[08:08] <rob-west> !porn
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <vio> !botabuse
[08:08] <LjL> !botabuse
[08:08] <MementoMori> hi all
[08:08] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:08] <rob-west> !love | rob-west
[08:09] <Shafto> LjL is here to kill you all!
[08:09] <Shafto> :D
[08:09] <kneeki> Oh noes!
[08:09] <vio> 1135 ppl here and no1 can help me with me wlan problem?
[08:09] <MementoMori> i want a single sign on server (ldap based) that lets users mount their homes via nfs. where can I find more doc about?
[08:10] <Shafto> vio: Good old wired ftw!
[08:10] <ajehuk> vop - whats up?
[08:10] <ajehuk> vio - whats up?
[08:10] <ajehuk> :)
[08:10] <rob-west> feisty should be done this month
[08:10] <vio> 2 sec, more detalid info
[08:10] <rob-west> and when its done ill install it to my hard drive
[08:10] <klaus_> hey there. would somebody be kind enough to tell me the preferred unbuntu'ish way of using a different language for console apps (preferable English :-) than for x? tried setting LC_MESSAGES in /etc/profile, but that would also affect x, unfortunately
[08:11] <Shafto> rob-west: They encountered problems with the RC, so could be delayed
[08:11] <rob-west> whats the RC
[08:11] <Shafto> rob
[08:11] <Juanca> Hi, anyone can help me installing Windows in a partition I left as ntfs when I installed Ubuntu
[08:11] <Shafto> rob-west: Release Candidate
[08:11] <rob-west> oh
[08:11] <Shafto> !ntfs | Juanca
[08:11] <ubotu> Juanca: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:12] <Shafto> !dualboot | Juanca
[08:12] <ubotu> Juanca: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:12] <vio> !pastebin | vio
[08:13] <rob-west> man last year my school let us use laptops
[08:13] <rob-west> i should have downloaded a ubuntu CD and used the live cd
[08:14] <rob-west> but it would probably piss the teachers off
[08:14] <vio> ok guyes, here's the problem i got a wlan called "101" its right beside me, and i can't connect to it.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15989/ (when i type iwconfig)
[08:14] <_JP> is there no package for ffmpeg development files in edgy?
[08:14] <ajehuk> vio -looking...
[08:14] <larpa> piv
[08:15] <Shafto> vio: Me too but mines just out of being nosey :P
[08:15] <ubuntuUSR> i installed a fresh clean install of Ubuntu server edgy 6.10, i alos did APT-GET INSTALL ssh openssh-server, but i cant not connect to my machine from another machine on my network
[08:15] <rob-west> when this bittorrent is done i will be sure to share
[08:16] <ajehuk> vio - whats the card? and what kind of driver are you using?
[08:16] <Binuts> join #ubuntu-fr-classroom
[08:16] <rob-west> !ssh ubuntuUSR
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssh ubuntuusr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <rob-west> !ssh | ubuntuUSR
[08:16] <ubotu> ubuntuUSR: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:16] <ubuntuUSR> ubotu: ill cehck that siteo ut
[08:16] <ubuntuUSR> oh
[08:17] <ubuntuUSR> ok rob
[08:17] <Shafto> ubuntuUSR: Dude hes a bot he wont answer back :Pp
[08:17] <rob-west> lol
[08:17] <klaus_> hey there. i'm trying to run console apps in a different language than xorg/gnome. tried setting LC_MESSAGES in /etc/profile, but that would also affect gnome, unfortunately. would anybody be kind enough to point me into the right direction?
[08:17] <rob-west> no problem ubuntuUSR im kinda new to ubuntu also
[08:17] <rob-west> only got a few months on me
[08:18] <larpa> whats longest uptime?
[08:18] <vio> ajehuk:  that's prob. where the problem is.. i installed a driver with ndiswrapper on edgy, then upgraded to feisty. i got the broadcom 43xx chipset (acer ferrari 3400)
[08:18] <ubuntuUSR> rob
[08:18] <Suurorca> klaus_: run with "LC_ALL=foo_FOO command"
[08:18] <rob-west> yes ubuntuUSR
[08:18] <ubuntuUSR> rob-west: i installed the sucker already...
[08:18] <vio> ajehuk:  it didn't work on edgy either
[08:18] <ubuntuUSR> rob-west: ive instaled it before the way i did and it worked fine :(.. but now it wont i dont understand it
[08:18] <rob-west> how are you trying to ssh
[08:18] <ubuntuUSR> rob-west: sudo apt-get install ssh openssh-server
[08:19] <ajehuk> vio - does the ndiswrapper module load ok though?
[08:19] <rob-west> i just had to do apt-get install ssh
[08:19] <ubuntuUSR> rob-west: putty my network ip for the particular box which is 192.168.0.7
[08:19] <klaus_> Suurorca: maybe i'm missing something, but if setting LC_MESSAGES to a different language affects gnome, LC_ALL would do so as well, wouldn't it?
[08:19] <ubuntuUSR> oh ok
[08:19] <ubuntuUSR> let me remove and try that
[08:19] <Juanca> Can I install Windows if I already have installed Ubuntu, but have left an NTFS partition blank?
[08:19] <vio> ajehuk:  yeah i guess.. haven't really used it before so im not so sure
[08:19] <michup> hi, i tried to install armagetron- a tron like game, first i use synaptic for install it but theres older version makes me unable to play via internet, so i search for newer version deb package and find it athttp://osx.freshmeat.net/projects/armagetronad/?branch_id=40626&release_id=230908
[08:19] <rob-west> ok
[08:19] <ajehuk> vop - I have no idea how ubuntu would deal with ndiswrapper after an upgrade..
[08:19] <Pici> ubuntuUSR: Can you ssh locally back into the computer? i.e.: ssh 127.0.0.1?
[08:19] <rob-west> i know how to ssh
[08:19] <Suurorca> klaus, yes, if you put it in profile. but if you use it as Idescribed, it will only affect the program in question
[08:19] <Shafto> Juanca: Its recommended and i think only works if windows is installed first
[08:19] <ajehuk> vio - I have no idea how ubuntu would deal with ndiswrapper after an upgrade..
[08:19] <michup> but there is an error
[08:20] <age6racer> hi all, I'm having trouble installing a printer driver. I have downloaded a .rpm for the official Canon driver and used Alien to convert to .deb and install. But when i open cups interface to add printer the PPD file doesn't show up in the list.
[08:20] <ubuntuUSR> rob-west: no go ;(
[08:20] <vio> ajehuk: do you know how to remove the old driver and reinstall the new?
[08:20] <Juanca> Shafto: I was afraid of that
[08:20] <Santo-I> nto-I
[08:20] <klaus_> Suurorca: sorry, misread your message. but that's not what I actually want; to put it plain, translations for console apps suck - all of them.
[08:20] <ubuntuUSR> rob-west: sudo apt-get remove ssh openssh-server
[08:20] <ubuntuUSR> rob-west: sudo apt-get install ssh
[08:20] <ajehuk> vio - yeah  - let me just fire up my laptop ...
[08:20] <michup> error: dependency is not satisfiable: armagetronad-common
[08:20] <ubuntuUSR> tried from my other machine still no go :
[08:20] <klaus_> Suurorca: localized gnome is fine though
[08:20] <Shafto> Juanca: Well appearently thats the way its got to be done, why do you need windows anyhows?
[08:20] <vio> ajehuk:  great :)
[08:21] <VR_> age6racer, is that with feisty?
[08:21] <rob-west> can u ssh in on the box ssh server is on
[08:21] <age6racer> Edgy
[08:21] <ubuntuUSR> let me try
[08:21] <ror> rob-west, yes
[08:21] <ubuntuUSR> just do ssh?
[08:21] <Shafto> Juanca: For specific  applications?
[08:21] <ror> try the command ssh localhost
[08:21] <michup> how can i handle this?
[08:21] <rob-west> ssh -l user ip
[08:21] <VR_> age6racer, i had the same problem in gnome. it works in kubuntu... i just hope that it's fixed in feisty.
[08:21] <ubuntuUSR> ok
[08:21] <age6racer> I'm using xfce (xubuntu)
[08:22] <Juanca> Shafto: yes I need at least two apps
[08:22] <Suurorca> klaus_, ah... I think I see what you're trying to do. I'm afraid I don't have any good ideas, though
[08:22] <ubuntuUSR> it sayd
[08:22] <profun> hi all
[08:22] <Shafto> Juanca: You tried looking at WINE?
[08:22] <klaus_> Suurorca: ok, thanks anyways :)
[08:22] <ubuntuUSR> localhost could not be establish something RSA key
[08:22] <ajehuk> vio - for a start you could drop the contents of /etc/modules into a pastebin - and also the output of lspci and the output of modprobe -l | grep ndiswrapper
[08:22] <profun> i have irda and i don't how to connect to my box
[08:22] <rob-west> then find the ssh key stuff
[08:22] <Juanca> Shafto: Doesn't work properly for photoshop cs2
[08:22] <VR_> age6racer, if you find a solution i'd love to know it too
[08:22] <profun> can somebody tell me how to
[08:22] <Rprp> Hmm, Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?
[08:22] <ubuntuUSR> localhost (127.0.0.1)
[08:22] <VR_> age6racer, sorry to be of no help :P
[08:22] <rob-west> ubuntuUSR
[08:22] <Shafto> Juanca: Cant you use GIMP? Just as good
[08:23] <Shafto> Rprp: I had the same problem too,
[08:23] <michup> ive an error in deb package Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: foo
[08:23] <michup> how can i handle this?
[08:23] <ubuntuUSR> roadfish: yes rob?
[08:23] <Rprp> Shafto: Did you fix it? :p
[08:23] <Shafto> Rprp: Nope!
[08:23] <rob-west> cd to /home/user/.ssh
[08:23] <rob-west> with user being the user name
[08:23] <ubuntuUSR> ok rob i treid to do ssh 192.168.0.7 and it said no rout to hose
[08:23] <ubuntuUSR> host
[08:24] <rob-west> do if on the ssh server pc
[08:24] <rob-west> ifconfig
[08:24] <ubuntuUSR> ok ill do ifconfig then what?
[08:24] <larpa> ifconfig -a
[08:25] <Juanca> Shafto: I surely could, but won't learn how to use it in two days and I have work to finish. And I need dreamweaver also. And I'm formating again because I have a big overloading problem with VMware
[08:25] <ubuntuUSR> shit load of errors on a few of them.. i cant scrool up
[08:25] <powell> Hiya everyone
[08:25] <larpa> hiya powell
[08:25] <rob-west> i cant use my VMware workstation
[08:25] <ubuntuUSR> rob-west: .. its just a command line no interface... so itsh ard for me to switch computes like that. .but yeah it shows errors :( what a hell do i do it worked fine when i ddi fresh install
[08:25] <Juanca> Shafto: so now I going for dual booting
[08:26] <Juanca> Shafto: I'm*
[08:26] <powell> is Fiesty an LTS release?
[08:26] <VR_> age6racer, i found something in the forums that says, "use Cups web admin interface" to set it up once you've installed the driver
[08:26] <ubuntuUSR> mmm masking and all is wrong
[08:26] <ubuntuUSR> how do i scroll up in the command promt>
[08:26] <rob-west> ubuntuUSR:  PM me
[08:26] <rob-west> just use the up arrow
[08:26] <Woody_> fiesty fawn help is here? or in another channel?
[08:26] <ubuntuUSR> ok
[08:27] <IdleOne> Woody_: #ubuntu+1
[08:27] <roadfish> davisc: this works for me: "sudo modprobe visor" ... then I just use /dev/ttyUSB1
[08:27] <Woody_> thank you IdleOne
[08:27] <diego> salve a tutti
[08:27] <rob-west> ubuntuUSR but u gotta register ur nick
[08:27] <diego> c' qualche italiano??
[08:27] <IdleOne> !it
[08:27] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:27] <ajehuk> !it | diego
[08:27] <ubotu> diego: please see above
[08:27] <diego> ok
[08:27] <diego> vafammocc
[08:28] <Juanca>  Can I install Windows if I already have installed Ubuntu, in a NTFS partition left blank?
[08:28] <VR_> age6racer, if you're still there, try this: open up firefox and go to http:/localhost:631  -  try to set up your printer from there
[08:28] <roadfish> ubuntuUSR: hi, did you want to say something to me? I don't know what "yes rob?" means
[08:28] <larpa> How i can get PIXMA MP150 drivers? Turboprint is not answer :)
[08:28] <IdleOne> diego just told the channel to GO.....
[08:28] <powell> is Fiesty an LTS release?
[08:28] <ajehuk> Juanca - you can - but you may need to install grub again afterwards - afaik indows will not list the ubuntu OS for you to use it
[08:28] <Pici> powell: No.
[08:28] <powell> thanks
[08:28] <michup> ive an error in deb package Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: foo
[08:29] <IdleOne> powell: no but will be supported for 6 to 18 months like all other ubuntu releases
[08:29] <michup> how can i handle this?
[08:29] <ajehuk> vio - hows it going?
[08:29] <Pici> michup: It actually says 'foo'?
[08:29] <Juanca> ajehuk: Then do you advice to install windows first and partition again with it?
[08:29] <michup> no
[08:29] <vio> ajehuk: sent you a pm no content inside /etc/modules (and the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15991/)
[08:29] <michup> Pici it says armagetronad-common
[08:29] <ajehuk> vio - missed it :)
[08:30] <Pici> michup: You're trying to install something from apt or a .deb?
[08:30] <michup> its some part of armagetron- tron like game
[08:30] <michup> deb
[08:30] <michup> id installed it first by synaptic
[08:30] <rob-west> man Feisty looks nice
[08:30] <michup> but there is older version of this game
[08:30] <ajehuk> Juanca - normally I'd suggest installing windows first,. but you can install windows after ubuntu, but as I said, you will have to reinstall your bootloader.
[08:30] <michup> makes me unable to play via internet
[08:30] <Pici> michup: Sounds like you need to find the armagetronad-common package.
[08:31] <michup> this is link for the package id used
[08:31] <michup> http://osx.freshmeat.net/projects/armagetronad/?branch_id=40626&release_id=230908
[08:31] <Juanca> ajehuk: That soound like more problems to me, I will install windows first then. How do I install ubuntu afterwards? Can you please give me some url if you have?
[08:32] <stepanstas> My mic is very low in Linux, any way to turn it up? (other then the basic sound volume control)
[08:32] <vio> :)
[08:33] <larpa> sudo apt-get install easyubuntu
[08:33] <oFsol> hi all
[08:33] <VR_> isn't it better to use aptitutde instead of apt-get?
[08:33] <ajehuk> vio - ndiswrapper -l will list installed drivers, can you drop the output of that into a pastebin too?
[08:33] <oFsol> how can I reset encoding setting is Ubuntu?
[08:33] <Enverex> VR_, apt-get is the terminal version, so not really
[08:33] <bokey> stepanstas: alsamixer
[08:33] <VR_> Enverex, so is aptitude
[08:33] <vio> ajehuk:  sure thing :)
[08:34] <Legu> How can I boot Ubuntu without GNOME/X11?
[08:34] <Enverex> VR_, As yes I was thinking of Synaptic, but no, Aptitude is a pain, apt-get is plain and simple if you just need to grab stuff
[08:34] <stepanstas> bokey, No way other than installing program?
[08:34] <PriceChild> VR_, Enverex aptitude handles dependencies better than apt-get, although only if you exclusively use aptitude for software. apt-get is also gaining ground :)
[08:34] <bokey> stepanstas: gnome-volume-manager then
[08:34] <VR_> there you go
[08:35] <michup> i found this package at http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fa%2Farmagetronad%2Farmagetronad_0.2.8.2.1-2_i386.deb&md5sum=6cc91ac12a1b283050a056b422e89a87&arch=i386&type=main
[08:35] <bokey> PriceChild: imo, aptitude and apt both uses dpkg.
[08:35] <Pici> michup: You need version 0.3 or 0.2.7.1?
[08:35] <michup> is it enough to install it first and then broken package
[08:35] <PriceChild> bokey, yes
[08:35] <vio> ajehuk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15993/ :)
[08:35] <michup> the snd one is what server ask for
[08:36] <bokey> PriceChild: they are just a front-end. all the hard work is done by dpkg.
[08:36] <PriceChild> bokey, i'm referring to when you uninstall a package, aptitude will help remove unneeded dependencies
[08:36] <Pici> michup: snd?
[08:36] <michup> 0.3 is developer i heard
[08:36] <michup> second
[08:36] <michup> sry
[08:36] <stepanstas> bokey, i just found out that i do have the alsa mixer, so is there any way to go beyond the max point?
[08:36] <michup> 0.2.7
[08:36] <bokey> stepanstas: don't know about that.
[08:36] <Pici> michup: 0.2.7.0 is in the Ubuntu repositories.
[08:37] <stepanstas> alright, thanks though
[08:37] <user_> how do i mount floppy?
[08:37] <bokey> np
[08:37] <logicus> hey.. I'm trying to upgrade to feisty but it has stopped downloading at file no 156
[08:37] <Pelo> afternoon folks
[08:37] <michup> server ask greater then that
[08:37] <bokey> user_: mount /dev/fd0 /media/myfloppy
[08:37] <logicus> what to do
[08:37] <michup> 0.2.7.9 i think it was
[08:38] <michup> the latest for players version
[08:38] <Pici> michup: You could try compiling from source then.
[08:38] <user_> thx
[08:38] <Pelo> if I point an app to  /home/user/downloads  and /home/user/downloads happens to be a symlink everything saved to that folder will end up in the destination of the symlink right ?
[08:38] <Legu> Is it possible to boot ubuntu from live-cd without the GNOME/X11? I mean in textmode only.
[08:38] <ajehuk> vio - can you grab ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_1500/drivers/80211g.zip - its the driver you want - may or may not be the one you have installed....
[08:38] <Pici> michup: It doesnt even look like the .deb they provide is up to that version.
[08:38] <michup> but i found this armagetronad-common-i386.deb package
[08:38] <michup> at http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fa%2Farmagetronad%2Farmagetronad_0.2.8.2.1-2_i386.deb&md5sum=6cc91ac12a1b283050a056b422e89a87&arch=i386&type=main
[08:38] <boricua> quick Q?  only 1 beta before final release on 7.04
[08:39] <Pici> michup: Then try using that instead.
[08:39] <mNeo> Hi guys. Quick question. Every time my kernel updates, grub resets menu.lst to boot from hd0,2 instead of hd0,1 (My / partition is sda2). So I have to manually fix it every time. Any suggestions?
[08:39] <cables> boricua, there's going to be a release candidate
[08:39] <qaldune> when is Feisty going to be released?
[08:39] <boricua> on the 19 i just read
[08:39] <rob-west> idk but i got a gnome error
[08:39] <ticky> hi.does anybody know a good artile to read about what is the best way to partition a disk i will only use for storage (i.e. no operating system will be installed there). I' ve heard that is not convenient to have single one large partition. is that correct?
[08:39] <mNeo> Thursday
[08:39] <ajehuk> vio - cancel that - duff link
[08:39] <cables> qaldune, on the 19th, but this is the wrong channel
[08:39] <user_> mount: mount point /media/myfloppy does not exist
[08:39] <cables> qaldune, #ubuntu+1 for feisty help
[08:39] <michup> so my question is if i install armagetronad-common.deb then armagetron.deb package (the broken one) it should notice that ...-common is installed now?
[08:40] <qaldune> cables i wasn't asking for feisty help thx
[08:40] <ajehuk> vio - working link - ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_1500/driver/WLAN%20G%20(Broadcom)%22WLAN%20802.11g%20mini-PCI%20Module%22%20Version%203.30.15.zip
[08:40] <Pelo> mNeo,  how many hdd do you have on your computer ?
[08:40] <mNeo> only one, Pelo
[08:40] <cables> qaldune, you were asking about feisty... just next time use the other channel.
[08:40] <Pelo> mNeo,  and your boot partion is the second partiton ?
[08:40] <mNeo> yes
[08:40] <mNeo> third is windows, and first is swap
[08:41] <rNIUS> hello! :D
[08:41] <qaldune> cables i was asking when is feisty -next ubuntu release- going to be released. that's a general ubuntu question
[08:41] <vio> ajehuk: i'm back, had to take pictures of my buddy who had a new hair cut.. funny
[08:41] <Pelo> mNeo,   (hd0,1) translates as    fist hdd , second  partition,  where  0 is the first digit and so on
[08:41] <qaldune> kick me if you feel uncomfortable
[08:41] <cables> qaldune, #ubuntu+1 has the answer right in the topic.
[08:41] <mNeo> correct. But every time ubuntu updates kernel, it rewrites hd0,1 to hd0,2 .. which is wrong
[08:42] <ajehuk> vio - whatever floats your boat....
[08:42] <Pelo> mNeo,   grub doens'T look at the type of hdd just how many there are
[08:42] <Pici> cables: I dont think we need to move people to the other channel just for a simple release date question.
[08:42] <vio> ajehuk: i've got the file
[08:42] <mNeo> I see. And it picks the last one as Linux bootable?
[08:42] <qaldune> cables so what?? should i know about that?? i just join ubuntu general channel to know when's next release going to be released
[08:42] <ajehuk> vio - grand - giz a sec testing it...
[08:43] <Pelo> mNeo,  and what is on the 3 partition ? windows you say ? , very odd,   you can try aksing in #grub but I don't think they'll be able t answer either
[08:43] <Pici> qaldune: This is the right place to ask that question.
[08:43] <user_>  sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[08:43] <user_> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:43] <user_> 
[08:43] <mNeo> Pelo, Okay thanks
[08:43] <Pici> qaldune: #ubuntu+1 is for feisty support issues, and that isnt one of those.
[08:43] <user_> what file system ?
[08:43] <punker> hey wats up
[08:43] <cables> Pici, you win then
[08:43] <qaldune> pici: yeah i know that's what i was trying to tell cables about thx
[08:44] <ticky> so, can' t anybody help with my partition question?
[08:44] <Pelo> ticky,  just ask
[08:45] <ticky> ok. here i go again: does anybody know a good artile to read about what is the best way to partition a disk i will only use for storage (i.e. no operating system will be installed there). I' ve heard that is not convenient to have single one large partition. is that correct?
[08:45] <Enverex> ticky, Erm, just use one big partition
[08:45] <Pelo> ticky,  yeah, sorry I just scrolled up and I read it ,   I'd go with one big partition
[08:45] <zPacKRat> ticky: one partition is fine, just make a logical folder structure
[08:45] <qaldune> ticky: ext3, xfs, jfs, reiserfs... just the one which does bother you more
[08:46] <ticky> xPAck: what do you exactly mean by logical folder structure?
[08:47] <Pelo> something that makes sense
[08:47] <Jeeves_Moss> I nee dsome help with SSHing into my box remotely
[08:47] <craigbass1976> Jeeves_Moss, whats wrong?
[08:47] <Pelo> ticky,  no need to make a seperate partittions for  images, documents, video,  just make folders for them or what ever  structures suits you needs
[08:47] <ajehuk> vio - OK cool - you still there?
[08:48] <vio> ajehuk:  yeah :)
[08:48] <Jeeves_Moss> craigbass1976:  I installed it and connect to it internaly on the network, but when I try connecting to it through the internet, the only ports that are open are my Apache server
[08:48] <ticky> pelo: yes. but I was just asking about the partition.. if it is recommended to creat many of them (because of the size issue), or that doesn' t matter
[08:49] <qaldune> ticky doesn't matter
[08:49] <zPacKRat> ticky: no issues with one partition
[08:49] <craigbass1976> Jeeves_Moss, you have to open 22 on whatever is blocking you
[08:49] <zPacKRat> size or otherwise
[08:49] <ticky> great, thanks a lot buddies
[08:49] <ajehuk> kk unzip that archive
[08:49] <ajehuk> vio - kk unzip that archive
[08:49] <vio> roger
[08:50] <Pelo> ticky,   who's recommending this ?  I can'T realy see any value to it,  there use to be some value to that a long time ago with large hdd and  fat16 I think,  it couldnT' handle very large volumes so you had to split them , but that is long over
[08:50] <ticky> in addition i want to reize an ntfs partition, any good free software too to do this..?
[08:50] <vio> ajehuk: done
[08:50] <craigbass1976> ticky, qtparted
[08:50] <ajehuk> vio - once done do a ndiswrapper -l again...
[08:50] <titun> installing gammu package as shared library gives error , i did [ sudo ./configure --prefix=/usr , then make shared then make installshared ] 
[08:50] <ajehuk> vio - and then ndiswrapper -r the driver you have installed...
[08:50] <Pelo> ticky,  defrag your ntfs and backup your data first,  just incase
[08:50] <titun> and error is : cannot create directory `/usr/share/doc/gammu': Permission denied
[08:50] <craigbass1976> ticky, comes on knoppix cds
[08:51] <ticky> craigbass: thanks. i' ll try that one. but does it work as good as partition magic?
[08:51] <ajehuk> vio - aha - should be ndiswrapper -r bcmwl5
[08:51] <TheShrimp> hey, I have a question, will Ubuntu 7.04 feature any better driver support when it's released?
[08:51] <ticky> craigbass1976: i have a 1 year old (or so) knoppix cd, do you think that will be fine
[08:51] <Pelo> TheShrimp,   better ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:51] <craigbass1976> ticky, I've been using it for a couple of years, and used PM before that.
[08:51] <ajehuk> vio - cd into the unzipped archive and then into ./80211g/Driver/
[08:51] <titun> anyone installed gammu as shared library?
[08:52] <ticky> craigbass1976: sounds great. thanks for the advice
[08:52] <craigbass1976> ticky, it should; I haven't seen knoppix since around that time
[08:52] <ajehuk> vio once there do a quick ls, check that bcmwl5.inf exists
[08:52] <ajehuk> vio then you can go for a ndiswrapper -i ./bcmwl5.inf (although the filename should be in all caps, the left shift key on my kb is broke :) )
[08:52] <vio> ajehuk:  roger that, ps. (im slow ;))
[08:53] <ajehuk> vio - kk take your time... :)
[08:53] <retarded> hi i got a question about the "not a benchmark tool"
[08:53] <ganesh> hi ppl...i am currently using ubuntu 6.06 dapper edition....i want to upgrade to 6.10 edgy edition...i want current files intact without deletion.......just mere UPGRADE...no new installation.......
[08:53] <sharperguy> how do I get mp3's to auto-preview when I hover over the icon in nautilus? - I have recently reinstalled ubuntu and did not want to get automatix ti do it for me
[08:53] <retarded> could anyone help me with fglrx ???
[08:53] <ganesh> hi ppl...i am currently using ubuntu 6.06 dapper edition....i want to upgrade to 6.10 edgy edition...i want current files intact without deletion.......just mere UPGRADE...no new installation.......wht command to do that....how it should be done
[08:53] <Pici> !repeat | ganesh
[08:53] <ubotu> ganesh: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:53] <Pici> !upgrade | ganesh
[08:53] <ubotu> ganesh: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:53] <stepanstas> If i want to add a folder, where do i put it
[08:54] <Pelo> !mp3 | sharperguy
[08:54] <ubotu> sharperguy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:54] <stepanstas> *If i want to add a driver, where do i put it
[08:54] <ganesh> pici
[08:54] <ganesh> wht it is
[08:54] <Pici> ganesh: see ubotu's message above
[08:54] <Pelo> ganesh,  try this command update-manager -d
[08:54] <techie_> what's an equivalent program in ubuntu to moviemaker or adobe premier pro?
[08:55] <Ax3> hey guys, no machine NX suddenly just stopped working last night
[08:55] <Ax3> :S
[08:55] <ganesh> k
[08:55] <techie_> or even ulead?
[08:55] <Pelo> techie_,  http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[08:55] <w1zard> Anyone know why I can't enter suspend mode on my Dell Lattitude X1?
[08:55] <techie_> Thanks Pelo
[08:55] <plonemall> tyring to install last zope version, already installed python here is what I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15995/
[08:55] <Pelo> w1zard,  check the forum for your model
[08:55] <sharperguy> Pelo, are you sure those links tell me about what I want to do? I already have the codecs installed
[08:56] <ajehuk> vio - how are you getting on?
[08:56] <Ax3> i get this message now ---> "Server not installed or NX access disabled"
[08:56] <Ax3> can anyone assist? :D
[08:56] <Pelo> sharperguy,   with the codecs installed you should get previews when you mouse over a file
[08:56] <Ax3> it just completely stopped
[08:56] <ticky> one last question about partition:  i have a 120GB disc, i want to leave 10GB for fat32 and the rest for ext3, does the order matter?
[08:56] <w1zard> pelo - is that the official ubuntu forum?
[08:56] <plonemall> how can I know where the python last version is installed?
[08:56] <Lukemob> Hi, I have that problem ... when I start an eggdrop bot, it starts normal ... but when I load a script and rehash ... it quits says some error in TCl script. But ... that script has no error, it works on another Linux's, anyone know where could be prob?
[08:56] <Pici> ticky: Order doesnt matter
[08:56] <stepanstas> If i want to add a sound driver, what folder do i put it in?
[08:57] <vio> ajehuk: do i have to go to the ndiswrapper folder to delete the old1?
[08:57] <ajehuk> vio - no
[08:57] <Pelo> w1zard,  yes that would be it,   search for your issue and model,  that should let you know if anyone else has had this problem and if they found a fix
[08:57] <Lukemob> I'm really afraid of my error. :S
[08:57] <techie_> Ok how about movie editors or movie creators in Ubuntu?
[08:57] <w1zard> ok thanks!
[08:57] <sharperguy> Pelo, well it only ever worked for me when i used automatix
[08:57] <vio> ajehuk, i'm getting this: valent@valent-laptop:~/Desktop/80211g/Driver$ ndiswrapper -r BCMWL5.INF  -   couldn't delete /etc/ndiswrapper/BCMWL5.INF: No such file or directory
[08:57] <ajehuk> vio - just literally use the command 'ndiswrapper -r bcmwl5'
[08:57] <ticky> pici: i was asking thinking ahead of future situations when i wil have to resize that disc for other filsystem
[08:57] <ganesh> pelo.....its putting some errors....any other methods
[08:57] <ganesh> ?
[08:57] <techie_> I have not found any equivalent from windows movie makers
[08:58] <Pici> ticky: I figured.
[08:58] <vio> ajehuk: and if i use the -i i get this:  driver bcmwl5 is already installed
[08:58] <ajehuk> vio - that threw me the first time - to install you point it at a file, to remove you just use the name ndiswrapper assigned to it, in this case bcmwl5,
[08:58] <vio> ajehuk: lol, roger that
[08:58] <doolph> anyone know hwo to put that toolbar like MACOS?
[08:58] <ajehuk> vio - yeah, I'll tell you what lets step through this one at a time
[08:58] <Pelo> sharperguy,  hmmm, it's not working for me right now either,  but I've never done anything else,  let me see what it might be
[08:59] <Pici> techie_: The two I've heard of are kino and cinelerra , but I've not used either.
[08:59] <Pelo> ganesh,  check the site
[08:59] <stepanstas> Where are drivers in Linux located?
[08:59] <ajehuk> vio - first - remove the existing driver 'ndiswapper -r bcmwl5' -> shout when your done :)
[08:59] <ganesh> pelo.wht site
[08:59] <Pelo> ganesh,   www,.ubuntu.com
[08:59] <ganesh> k
[09:00] <eck> stepanstas: /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers
[09:00] <Pici> stepanstas: What are you trying to do?
[09:00] <vio> ajehuk:  it won't let me i get bash: ndiswapper: command not found
[09:00] <craigbass1976> Jeeves_Moss, How are you making out?
[09:00] <stepanstas> eck: thanks
[09:00] <ajehuk> vio - first - remove the existing driver 'ndiswrapper -r bcmwl5' -> shout when your done :)
[09:00] <Pici> vio: ndiswrapper
[09:00] <ajehuk> vio - cant type :)
[09:00] <gravemind> hey, what should I do if I get an error when I boot saying ubuntu detected an error in the filesystem and that I should do fsck manually?
[09:00] <Legu> Is it possible to run Ubuntu desktop live-cd without GNOME/X11?
[09:00] <stepanstas> Pici, my mic is very low in Ubuntu, and i'm thinking if i add a driver, it could boost it up
[09:00] <vio> ajehuk: "Can't unlink file /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/14E4:4318.5.conf: Permission denied at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 128"
[09:00] <ganesh>  : hi ppl...i am currently using ubuntu 6.06 dapper edition....i want to upgrade to 6.10 edgy edition...i want current files intact without deletion.......just mere UPGRADE...no new installation.......
[09:00] <eck> gravemind: run it manually and cross your fingers
[09:01] <vio> sudo ?
[09:01] <ajehuk> vio - I should have said, - yeah sudo
[09:01] <stepanstas> Pici: Any other ideas?
[09:01] <gravemind> eck: so I just do "fsck" in a terminal
[09:01] <gravemind> eck: or do I have to use a live cd
[09:01] <vio> ajehuk: DONE :)
[09:01] <Pelo> sharperguy, when you mouse over do you get the little bubble wit the note in it ?
[09:01] <Pici> stepanstas: Have you looked at the volume controls?
[09:01] <eck> gravemind: the filesystem needs to not be mounted, so live cd is the best
[09:01] <sharperguy> Pelo, bubble?
[09:01] <Emelian> Ajehuk... I installed the ATI driver and it seems to work. But how do I manage to get higher Refresh than 60 Hz? The application for "Screen Resolution" will only allow up to 60 Hz.
[09:01] <sharperguy> Pelo, oh yea i do
[09:01] <Lukemob> No idea?
[09:01] <gravemind> eck: ok, and what are the possible outcomes?
[09:01] <vio> ajehuk:  ndiswrapper -i BCMWL5.INF?
[09:02] <Paul_UK> hey, is anyone running ubuntu 6.1 on a sony viao z1rmp, just about to install it
[09:02] <eck> gravemind: probably you are screwed
[09:02] <ajehuk> vio - great, next up installing the new driver
[09:02] <eck> gravemind: if you're lucky fsck will be able to recover the errors
[09:02] <ajehuk> vio - yep thats right
[09:02] <sharperguy> Pelo, apparently I need mpg123 for mp3's, but i dunno about vorbis
[09:02] <Legu> Is it possible to run Ubuntu desktop live-cd without GNOME/X11?
[09:02] <Pelo> sharperguy,  then the preview feature is working  , something else it wrong,  I get no sound either,  not sure why
[09:02] <ajehuk> vio - if you are stil lin the same directory
[09:02] <eck> gravemind: run it as fsck -y
[09:02] <crimsun> sharperguy: vorbis-tools (`ogg123`)?
[09:02] <gravemind> eck: so should I do some kind of backup before I run fsck
[09:02] <Pici> Legu: And what would you run in place of it?
[09:02] <sharperguy> crimsun, ill try that thanks
[09:02] <eck> gravemind: if you can mount the partition...
[09:02] <vio> ajehuk: i had to sudo it.. but i got this: forcing parameter IBSSGMode from 0 to 2 (twice)
[09:03] <ajehuk> vio - good thats what we want...
[09:03] <eck> gravemind: at the very least you will probably end up with some corrupted files in /lost+found
[09:03] <sharperguy> crimsun, Pelo, though i really have to go unfortunatly
[09:03] <vio> great :)
[09:03] <stepanstas> Pici: Yes, i have its all set to max, yet i have to put my mouth right on the mic and i can still barely hear
[09:03] <ticky> sorry to bother again? any good command to format a W95 FAT32 partition?
[09:03] <Pici> stepanstas: odd.
[09:03] <Pelo> sharperguy,   I'll keep looking, it's not working for me either,  so I need to fix it
[09:03] <Emelian> Oh, Ajehuk is busy... Anyone else here that knows how to get higher refresh than 60 Hz on an ATI card?
[09:03] <Pici> ticky: The easiest way would be to use the gui tools gparted or qtparted (for kde).
[09:03] <gravemind> eck: I can mount the partition, acutally, I don't notice anything wrong except that error message when it boots
[09:04] <Legu> Pici, GNOME is just too heavy... And textbased is ok for me.
[09:04] <stepanstas> Pici: you think a driver would help?
[09:04] <eck> ticky: there is a dosfstools or something like that that will give you a mkfs command for that
[09:04] <user_> how do i format a floppy disk?
[09:04] <Pici> Legu: I dont believe that there is an Ubuntu based terminal live-cd
[09:04] <ajehuk> vio - next up... we remove and then insert the drier into the kernel...
[09:04] <Pici> stepanstas: it might.
[09:04] <ajehuk> vio - first modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[09:04] <eck> gravemind: yeah, backup what you can now and run a fsck. also, check root's mail in case you got any smart errors or anything like that
[09:04] <Legu> Yea, that's the problem!
[09:05] <vio> ajehuk: done (had to sudo)
[09:05] <ticky> eck: thanks.
[09:05] <gravemind> eck: does sudo mutt check root's mail?
[09:05] <ajehuk> vio - then modprobe -i ndiswrapper (yeah again sudo :) )
[09:05] <ticky> and pici: i' m installing gparted
[09:05] <ticky> thanks a lot
[09:05] <eck> ticky: read the man page for mkfs.msdos
[09:05] <sarah>  irc.gamesurge.net
[09:05] <Legu> So, there must be some kind of trick to not load GUI? Or is there?
[09:05] <vio> ajehuk:  done :)
[09:06] <user_> how do i format a floppy disk?
[09:06] <EXetoC> Hello. I need some help installing a game. I've installed all the required SDL packages but it still can't find the headers when compiling.
[09:06] <psusi> Legu: what do you mean?
[09:06] <ticky> eck: mkfs.msdos does format FAT32. thanks.
[09:06] <ajehuk> vio - do you happen to know the mac address of the card? is it printed on the laptop anywhere (the base is the most likley place..) if it is - write that down - there is a small chance we may need it later...
[09:06] <psusi> user_: same way you format anything... mkfs
[09:07] <psusi> though why you are still using a floppy in this day and age is beyond me
[09:07] <vio> ajehuk:  closing my lid to check underneath my laptop
[09:07] <Legu> Some kind of command at the boot parameters (F6), so it wouldn't start X11/GNOME or any grapical shit...
[09:07] <eck> Legu: if you had bad sections in your ram, trying to do a terminal install is just avoiding the real problem
[09:07] <Pelo> psusi,  that is a very unhelpfull comment
[09:07] <psusi> Pelo: how so?  I answered his question
[09:07] <sabayonlive-1983> Woody_: Did you manage to install okay?
[09:07] <eck> Legu: it is not necessarily true that the section of ram that will be used will be at the start -- due to fragmentation and what not it will end up all over the place
[09:08] <gnufied> where shall i ask the question about lapack3 (fortran linear algebra) package?
[09:08] <vio> ajehuk: didn't find it undeneath..
[09:08] <Ax3> hey guys, no machine NX suddenly just stopped working last night
[09:08] <Ax3> i get this message now ---> "Server not installed or NX access disabled"
[09:08] <psusi> Legu: just for this boot or you want to disable the gui for good?
[09:08] <ajehuk> vio - never mind - if it comes to it we'll look later, anyway, next up - lets see if the card is working at all....
[09:08] <Ax3> can anyone assist? :D
[09:08] <Shafto> Woody_: Did you manage to install okay?
[09:08] <vio> ajehuk: oki doki :)
[09:08] <Lukemob> Please, what all do I need to have eggdrop bot with scripts on a server?
[09:08] <zbrown> gnufied: what about it?:
[09:08] <Legu> Just for the boot from the live-cd, psusi
[09:09] <ajehuk> vio - can you do a - (sudo) 'iwlist wlan0 scan' and pastebin the output.
[09:09] <eck> Legu: the alternative install cd and the network install cd are both text based though
[09:09] <gnufied> zbrown, well, it depends upon gcc-3.4 on dapper.
[09:09] <zbrown> Legu: /j #eggdrop
[09:09] <vio> ajehuk:  offcourse
[09:09] <ajehuk> vio - eh cancel that -
[09:09] <Legu> zbrown?
[09:09] <vio> ajehuk: wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning. :)
[09:09] <gnufied> zbrown, and I am just worrried about conflicting the tool chain with two versions of gcc
[09:09] <ajehuk> vio - actually can you dump the contents of ifconfig -a into a pastebin...
[09:09] <crazy_penguin> night allt
[09:09] <Juanca> CAn anyone help me, or give me some advice installing Win XP to istall ubuntu aftarwards. I did install ubuntu and now I want to install Win first to partition the machine correctly but I get an error from the win installer.
[09:09] <ticky> do i need to restart after partitioning adn formatting the discs? or if i just unmount them / mount them i can start moving teh data?
[09:10] <EXetoC> Anyone? The installed SDL headers can't be find by the compiler for some reason.
[09:10] <ajehuk> vio - Im getting ahead of myself and asumiong too much.. :)
[09:10] <Shafto> Juanca: Did you read the page ubotu sent you before?
[09:10] <gnufied> zbrown, ?
[09:10] <vio> ajehuk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15998/ *dumped*
[09:10] <ajehuk> Juanca - I can take a look at that with you in a little while - 10 mins - if no one else jumps in :)
[09:10] <t3st> join #ubuntu-fr-classroom
[09:11] <ajehuk> vio - giz a sec
[09:11] <user_> how do i check to see if linux detected my floppy drive?
[09:11] <vio> ajehuk: sorry :(
[09:11] <Juanca> Shafto: one of them I don't undestand, and the other says "Install windows first..." And that's exaclty what I'm not able to do
[09:11] <gnufied> user_, it would have mounted it in /media dir
[09:11] <psusi> user_: see if it appears in my computer if you are running ubuntu/gnome
[09:11] <Shafto> Juanca: Umm i managed to install windows even with ubuntu installed
[09:11] <ajehuk> vio - can you do a - (sudo) 'iwlist eth1 scan' and pastebin the output.
[09:11] <zbrown> gnufied: hmmm im on feisty so im not sure about whats provided with dapper :0/
[09:11] <gnufied> user_, or enter command, dmesg and scroll to the bottom
[09:12] <Juanca> ajehuk: great, tell me when you're free please
[09:12] <Shafto> Juanca: By overwriting ubuntu then reinstalling it, what error does the windows installer give you?
[09:12] <gnufied> zbrown, doesn't matter, its a legacy library and i think, on feisty also, it would depend on gcc -3.4
[09:12] <vio> ajehuk: eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device
[09:12] <gnufied> i just want to know, if its a good idea to have two versions of gcc installed
[09:12] <Juanca> Shafto: It's a long one, let me check again
[09:12] <user_> gnufied  what command?
[09:12] <ajehuk> vio - does the wifi card on that laptop have an on off switch?
[09:12] <gnufied> user_, dmesg
[09:13] <vio> ajehuk: yeah, (it's ON)
[09:13] <zbrown> gnufied: oh ok, i thought you question was where to get gcc 3.4
[09:13] <ajehuk> vio - I'd like to try reinserting it, - but I guess its internal, a switch off, switch on may help
[09:13] <user_> so i see fd0 now
[09:13] <vio> ajehuk: got a bluetooth aswell..
[09:13] <zbrown> gnufied: its fine to have both, you'll just want to make sure gcc points to the proper gcc-4.x or gcc-3.x
[09:13] <gnufied> zbrown, why didn't they recompile damn thing with 4.0 ?
[09:14] <gnufied> :(
[09:14] <vio> ajehuk:  i did OFF/ON , no difference in the terminal
[09:14] <zbrown> gnufied: in my case i have 3.3, 3.4, and 4.1 all installed with gcc pointing to 4.1
[09:14] <[digit] > anyone running pypanel on feisty?
[09:14] <ajehuk> vio - once you have it turned off and on can you drop the output of both 'ifconfig -a' and 'dmesg | tail' into a paste bin...
[09:14] <vio> ajehuk: i have managed to get it working (about 1,5 years ago)..
[09:14] <zbrown> gnufied: often they change something within the compiler that would mean they'd have to redo significant portions of code in libraries that have to do with math bindings or things like the fortran linking
[09:15] <ajehuk> vio - I'm sure it will work, its just a case of getting there :)
[09:15] <zbrown> gnufied: its easier for them to just tell ppl to use 3.x version of gcc
[09:15] <IdleOne> LjL: going to install kubuntu-desktop and give a try again. do you suggest I also remove ubuntu-desktop or leave as it is?
[09:15] <gnufied> zbrown, hmm, I will have to use it with ruby, so i would like to think, i should be fine.
[09:16] <vio> ajehuk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16000/ (do check this 1!!)
[09:16] <sirano> hello
[09:16] <Shafto> hello sirano
[09:16] <IdleOne> someone please say my nick
[09:16] <sirano> how do you feel ?
[09:16] <sirano> IdleOne
[09:16] <zbrown> gnufied: well a lot of times those libraries that link to things like fortran, or things like gmp are a mess, just how it goes with development
[09:16] <Shafto> IdleOne
[09:16] <Pelo> sharperguy,  are you still around ?
[09:16] <Juanca> Shafto: It says Windows has been shut down to avoid damages to the machine... blah blah, check if you have the dick space, blah blah, check if one controller is identified in the detention message, blah, blah, try changing the video adapters, check with your hardware provider if there's uptades to de BIOS. Disable the memory options of the BIOS...
[09:17] <IdleOne> ty Shafto
[09:17] <Juanca> Shafto: there's something called "technical information" do you want to know what it says?
[09:18] <Shafto> Juanca: Did you say you had an ntfs partition already?
[09:18] <sirano> Oh, I see, you try to resolve the problems. I have a lot of problem
[09:18] <Juanca> Shafto: I had it but I errase every partition with the ubuntu CD to install windows first
[09:18] <Tenshi> I set up a raid array on one of my machines.  I took the hard drives out of that computer and placed them in their final destination (my server), but I'm having trouble recovering that array.  When I run "mdrun" I get the following error:  mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such device or address .   The node itself is present.  Am I missing a step?
[09:18] <IdleOne> thank you  sirano
[09:19] <ticky> does anybody know what is the maximum amount of space ubuntu will use to run? right now is sometihng about 11 GB, will it get much bigger? i want to create a partition for root (/) and a separate partition for /home, and other spare parititon to install other operating system
[09:19] <ticky> other linux distro
[09:19] <ajehuk> vio - OK seen that
[09:19] <vio> ajehuk:  ok..
[09:19] <ajehuk> vio - looks like its not all that uncommon, and apparently we can work around it...
[09:19] <gnufied> zbrown, thanks man.
[09:20] <zbrown> gnufied: i know its a pain, but youre welcome :)
[09:20] <Shafto> sirano: problem away, im sure someone will help
[09:20] <ajehuk> vio can you do a quick modprobe -l | grep bcm43xx - and tell me if there is any output?
[09:20] <ajehuk> vio -again using sudo...
[09:20] <locolbd> can anyone tell me why my wirless connection disconnects, when my computer is idle, also when i click on network selector, it does not recognize my wireless connection unless i restart ubuntu
[09:20] <sirano> Shafto : The problem is that my problem is strange
[09:20] <vio> ajehuk: didn't do a sudo: /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-mac80211.ko and /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko
[09:21] <vio> ajehuk: should i do a sudo -i ?
[09:21] <Lin> sorry 4 ask.. but where is the inittab?
[09:21] <EXetoC> "cp blobAndConquer /usr/games/blobAndConquer" "cp: cannot stat `blobAndConquer': No such file or directory" is what i get when perfoming the last step: "make install". I'm not sure how to fix that
[09:21] <Shafto> sirano: Well if you just ask it im sure someone can help
[09:21] <ajehuk> vio - no that'll do
[09:21] <Juanca>  Shafto: I had it but I've errased every partition with the ubuntu CD to install windows first
[09:21] <ajehuk> vio - this time as sudo can we do a modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[09:21] <locolbd> can anyone tell me why my wirless connection disconnects, when my computer is idle, also when i click on network selector, it does not recognize my wireless connection unless i restart ubuntu
[09:21] <msa> Lin: /etc/inittab
[09:21] <soundray> Lin: it was replaced in the course of replacing the init system with upstart
[09:21] <soundray> !upstart > Lin, read ubotu'
[09:21] <Juanca> Shafto: no, sorry, I did it with GParted
[09:22] <Shafto> Juanca: You on ubuntu now? You actually running an os on that pc?
[09:22] <vio> ajehuk: done :)
[09:22] <soundray> Lin, read ubotu's private message please
[09:22] <ajehuk> vio - next up 'sudo modprobe bcm43xx'
[09:22] <Lin> soundray: read.. ;-)
[09:22] <rob-west> feisty have X errors
[09:22] <sirano> Shafto : I have posted my problem here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409193
[09:22] <vio> ajehuk:  :) = done :)
[09:22] <Juanca> Shaft: Not now, only with the Ubuntu CD i can see the disk unpartitioned
[09:23] <martinnnnnnn> A friend of mine have a large file to give me.What is a good way of he giving me it. Is a good solution to set up an FTP server on my machine and give him write access to the server?
[09:23] <ajehuk> vio - drop the output of 'sudo iwconfig' into pastebin please...
[09:23] <Shafto> Juanca: See when i stopped a linucx distro during install a while back everything refused to boot from cd until i sorted it out
[09:23] <firefly2442> martinnnnnnn, that would probably work, or if you have apache installed already...
[09:23] <ompaul> martinnnnnnn, depends on how good a friend they are
[09:23] <Lin> soundray: I know that everyone here hate shoranswers.. but what is the first thing after init()? Im in middle of a boot debug :-)
[09:23] <psusi> martinnnnnnn: what's wrong with having him dcc or otherwise transfer it using some IM system you use to communicate?
[09:23] <Juanca> Shafto: I gues is domething like that. How do I do that?
[09:24] <IdleOne> martinnnnnnn: better for him to setup the ftp server and you download from him
[09:24] <ompaul> martinnnnnnn, if you know them very well ssh and scp it into place
[09:24] <firefly2442> martinnnnnnn, make sure he/she can resume the download if it disconnects
[09:24] <msa> Firefox2 plays sound with flash. What is the problem?
[09:24] <vio> ajehuk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16002/
[09:24] <Shafto> Juanca: Well its just a guess from previous experience,
[09:24] <psusi> Lin: huh?  you mean /sbin/init?
[09:24] <rob-west> feisty should have beryl on it
[09:24] <martinnnnnnn> Isn't it considered "bad" to have an FTP server with writeaccess?
[09:25] <IdleOne> martinnnnnnn: that is why you should d/l from him and not him upload to you
[09:25] <soundray> Lin: sorry, I haven't understood upstart well enough to answer that. For me, it just works (touch wood)
[09:25] <Shafto> Juanca: Id try installing ubuntu, with it using all your hdd, then try installing windows over it, thats what i had to do
[09:25] <firefly2442> martinnnnnnn, secure FTP might be a better solution too
[09:25] <ajehuk> vio - can you do a - (sudo) 'iwlist eth1 scan' and pastebin the output.
[09:25] <ompaul> firefly2442, sftp comes with ssh :)
[09:25] <ajehuk> vio - a new pastebin may be a good idea...
[09:25] <Lin> psusi: hmm not exactly.
[09:25] <Lin> soundray: thankz
[09:25] <martinnnnnnn> ok, thanks ppl
[09:25] <firefly2442> ompaul, ah, didn't know that :)
[09:25] <soundray> martinnnnnnn: some email services offer online space for sharing files
[09:26] <vio> ajehuk:  eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device
[09:26] <martinnnnnnn> soundray: the file is 20 GIG :)
[09:26] <Lin> On  startup  init  reads  the  /etc/event.d directory
[09:26] <renato> hi martinnnnnn... no... its not bad... you can install lamp in your computer and it will be very easy to set all the rest (html, ftp, mysql and php)
[09:26] <ajehuk> bugger
[09:26] <lmcculley> Hello all, I am having a problem with compiling a custom kernel. I have read through multiple HowTos and have had no luck. I keep getting a compilation error when trying to compile BzImage. Would someone be able to lend a helping hand? I'm new to Ubuntu/Debian but I have experience w/ Gentoo and Red Hat/Fedora.
[09:26] <soundray> martinnnnnnn: so?
[09:26] <vio> maybe it doesn't support scanning?
[09:26] <Juanca> Shafto: You mean, I will format the disk again with windows, errasing the previous ubuntu installing?
[09:26] <martinnnnnnn> soundray: so I doubt I will find a free online serve that allows him to upload it
[09:26] <soundray> lmcculley: have you read the ubuntu-specific advice?
[09:27] <IdleOne> !build-essential > lmcculley    (lmcculley, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:27] <Shafto> Juanca: Going off my experience with what seemed the same problem yes, unless you can ask someone else that may have a technical solution for you :)
[09:27] <Jaikkanen> can someone please tell me how to stop ubuntu from changing focus.. when i am typing something, while the mouse is aimed at something else?
[09:27] <renato> 2martinnnnnnnn... I think it will be the easiest option... try rapid file
[09:27] <soundray> martinnnnnnn: I wouldn't be so sure about that (but I don't know one off the top of my head).
[09:27] <ajehuk> vio - OK lets see - the environment isnt all that sane anymore - lets try and celan up a bit, - give ma a second..
[09:28] <soundray> martinnnnnnn: scp would be a good way and fairly easy to setup
[09:28] <martinnnnnnn> soundray: he runs windows and is not very techincal in general, so I'd like to make it easy for him
[09:28] <vio> ajehuk:  :) (i'm writing everything up in a "help my self installing linux file, so i can help myself in the future)
[09:28] <rob-west> feisty is the same
[09:28] <Juanca> ajehuk: can you give me a hand?
[09:28] <lmcculley> soundray: I have read http://www.howtoforge.com/roll_a_kernel_debian_ubuntu_way as well as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[09:28] <sirano> How is it possible to list programs which use the port 5060 ?
[09:28] <surviver> hy, i got question when i boot up the grub display's the options to boot, now i date my system up but in the grub he gives my older versions to, i want to delete this older versions.. how can i
[09:28] <Jaikkanen> please, someone tell me how to stop ubuntu from changing focus while i type, when it aimed at something else
[09:28] <ompaul> martinnnnnnn, so lets suppose you put openssh-server on your machine, and he gets sftp client
[09:29] <danielm> question: i just put together a new box, and i am experiencing odd system (or X) freezes randomly. how can i diagnose this problem?
[09:29] <ajehuk> Juanca - still working on soething else - iw ill get to you, but give me a little while
[09:29] <soundray> !kernelcompile > lmcculley, how about this one?
[09:29] <robdeman> hi folks... how many sub-directories can a extt3 directory have?
[09:29] <soundray> martinnnnnnn: scp is easy with putty ssh
[09:29] <danielm> i suspected overhating cpu, but that was dealt with, and now i suspect my video card. but i have no real reason to suspect anything in particular.
[09:29] <danielm> dmesg reveals nothing as far as i can tell.
[09:29] <msa> Firefox2 don't plays sound with flash. Does anyone know an solution? (Rhythembox is working well)
[09:30] <danielm> i also suspected firefox, but i'm not sure.
[09:30] <Erealz> how do you start a script.run?
[09:30] <vieirar> Hi I added a new disk to my system and made the proper changes to grub. Linux use to be installed on (hd0,0) now it is on (hd1,0). however whenever I update my kernel grub revertsback to (hd0,0) and I have to manually fix. What file keeps telling it to change my menu.lst to (hd0,0) for all my kernels?
[09:30] <danielm> Erealz, sh script.run
[09:30] <danielm> Erealz, or, chmoz +x script.run, and then ./script.run
[09:30] <geekytrent> surviver, edit the menu.lst file by typing "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:30] <geekytrent> "
[09:30] <renato> hi msa... did you try to download the latest flash plugin from adobe website ?
[09:30] <Jaikkanen> lol overhating CPU.. maybe some time with anger management might.. "cool it down"
[09:30] <lmcculley> soundray: I don't believe I've read through that one. I'll look it over and if I still have problems I'll let ya know. Thank you for your advice!
[09:30] <ompaul> robdeman, that is a function of the block size read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[09:30] <sirano> How is it possible to list programs which use the port 5060 ?
[09:30] <msa> No, I will try this.
[09:31] <aramilmoonmist> hey, im having issues getting 3d rendering with fglrx
[09:31] <geekytrent> surviver, from there, you can place a # in front of the stuff you don't want to show up
[09:31] <surviver> geekytrent, idd thx
[09:31] <martinnnnnnn> Erealz: you can either start it with an intepreter (often sh) by passing it as an argument: sh script
[09:31] <danielm> overheating :)
[09:31] <aramilmoonmist> it says i have direct rendering but no cd
[09:31] <aramilmoonmist> 3d*
[09:31] <surviver> geekytrent, great thx for the tips
[09:31] <martinnnnnnn> Erealz: or you can make the script executable and run it directly: chmod +x script     then ./script
[09:31] <geekytrent> yw
[09:31] <Erealz> first one work with sh
[09:31] <Erealz> thanks a lot guys
[09:31] <Shafto> aramilmoonmist: Good old ATi XD
[09:31] <aramilmoonmist> no kidding ><
[09:32] <danielm> martinnnnnnn, are we playing echo here? :P
[09:32] <Jaikkanen> danielm: i thought my pun was fairly smart :D
[09:32] <surviver> geekytrent, i can just delete those lines?
[09:32] <Shafto> aramilmoonmist: Ask in #ubuntu-effects , stand a better chance in being able to help you
[09:32] <aramilmoonmist> anyone have any ideas tho? i just caved in and got cedega, but still no dice on any games
[09:32] <geekytrent> surviver, yeah you can
[09:32] <aramilmoonmist> aight
[09:32] <ajehuk> vio - http://pastebin.ca/443369
[09:32] <surviver> k thx
[09:32] <martinnnnnnn> danielm: heh, nah :) Just felt like giving him some background info
[09:32] <ajehuk> Juanca - OK where are we up to?
[09:33] <soundray> gdb is trying to call /bin/ex, which isn't installed, and apt-file can't find it. What is it?
[09:33] <vio> ajehuk:  just do that?
[09:33] <martinnnnnnn> soundray, ompaul: that might work, I'll check it out, thank
[09:33] <martinnnnnnn> s
[09:33] <danielm> if anyone has experienced edgy freezing randomly and has resolved the issue, please msg me. this channel is far too noisy and i may miss your response.
[09:34] <Emelian> Anyony that knows how to bring up the "Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerators"...?
[09:34] <Jaikkanen> can somebody please help me stop ubuntu from focusing on other things while i am typing?
[09:34] <Jambon> is anyone here good with Lyx?
[09:34] <ajehuk> vio - yeah, that way we know roughtly what drivers are installed and doing what - at the moment I am worried that I cant tell whether the ndiswrapper module or the bcm43xx is managing the card, or if there are some bits lying around that shuoldnt be - thus making the whole thing harder..
[09:34] <robdeman> ompaul: mmm well Im dealing with a situation where a script generatings tons of directories inside 1 main directory. I expect about 50.000 - 100.000 subdirectoties in the main directory... is that something ext3 can handle?
[09:34] <Juanca> ajehuk: I'm getting an error trying to install windows to partition the disk and install ubuntu then
[09:34] <ompaul> !bootoptions > danielm (please check message from bot apic in particular)
[09:35] <ajehuk> Juanca - OK one step at a time, What stage are you up to so far?
[09:35] <geekytrent> robdeman, it can, it might get a little slower processing that many files, but it will handle it
[09:35] <soundray> Jambon: very good: I can launch it, and I know how to write a document...
[09:35] <vio> ajehuk:  oki doki (i'll try it out)
[09:35] <robdeman> geekytrent: ok cool good to know.. no 65.000 directory limit
[09:35] <Jambon> then can someone tell me what in god's name do I have to do to get "Extra }, or forgotten \endgroup." to go away
[09:35] <Juanca> I've installed ubuntu first, but I errased the partitions I've made with Gparted (using the CD) to install windows
[09:35] <ompaul> robdeman, well ls will bomb out trying to look at that - but if you have the inodes and the space I would not see why it would not
[09:35] <justindm> I just need a link that shows me step by step to setup my server as a router(so i use a switch for all my other pcs)
[09:36] <riaal> Is there some program named linuxDC++?
[09:36] <Jambon> there are no extra "}"s that I can see
[09:36] <Jambon> and nothing I do makes it go away
[09:36] <Jambon> and it won't show me the output until I fix it
[09:36] <ajehuk> Juanca - OK, you used the windows instaler to partition the disk?
[09:36] <Jambon> unless the output is broken
[09:36] <geekytrent> robdeman, yeah, check out this page on somemore info on it: http://forums.theplanet.com/lofiversion/index.php/t74741.html
[09:36] <robdeman> and what about the maximum number of files per directory in ext3 ?
[09:37] <Juanca> ajehuk: no, that's what I'm trying to do
[09:37] <vio> ajehuk: http://pastebin.ca/443369 (the last line adding the bcm43xx ) i did that and i have ndiswrapper above it, should i remove ndiswrapper ?
[09:37] <ajehuk> Juanca - OK so when you boot into the windows CD at some point you should be presented with a partitioner, is that correct?
[09:37] <Juanca> ajehuk: but I guess my previous Ubuntu installation has something to do with it
[09:38] <energY89> hi
[09:38] <ajehuk> vio - Yep (hey you told me earlier that there was oting in that file!! :) )
[09:38] <soundray> Jambon: open a new document, and copy your problem doc into the new one piecewise, each time generating the output. That way you will locate the problem part.
[09:38] <ompaul> rob-west, it should handle that as long as you have the inodes for it >>  http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2005-07/3279.html
[09:38] <vio> ajehuk: ahh.. i didn't know where the source was.. :P
[09:38] <ajehuk> Juanca - I dont think that is the case...
[09:38] <Juanca> ajehuk: no, I get an error screen saying: Windows has been shut down to avoid damages to the machine... blah blah, check if you have the dick space, blah blah, check if one controller is identified in the detention message, blah, blah, try changing the video adapters, check with your hardware provider if there's uptades to de BIOS. Disable the memory options of the BIOS...
[09:38] <msa> renato: I have installed the last flash player from the adobe website. But the problem persists. No sound with flash.
[09:39] <ajehuk> Juanca - when booting with the windows CD?
[09:39] <Juanca> ajehuk: yes
[09:39] <rob-west> whats the OEM install option
[09:39] <ajehuk> Juanca - Are you sure tht the CD is booting, that error looks more like you are booting into a broken windows install...?
[09:40] <ajehuk> vio - give me a shout once you have rebooted...
[09:40] <Juanca> ajehuk: how's that
[09:40] <vio> ajehuk: will do :)
[09:40] <rob-west> !oem
[09:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:40] <ajehuk> Juanca - when you boot with the windows CD, the CD will not care about the state of your hard drive...
[09:40] <georgy_> rob-west : you need the alternate cd
[09:41] <vio> *rebooting*
[09:41] <rob-west> i have the Ubuntu 6.10 DVD and its on the Feisty CD
[09:42] <lacoste>   ?
[09:42] <soundray> !ru | lacoste
[09:42] <Juanca> ajehuk: what can be the problem then? I had ubuntu installed, but it gave me a lot of problems and yesterday I formated and reinstalled ubuntu. today I thought I'd better make a partition for dual boot with windows
[09:42] <ubotu> lacoste:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:43] <Juanca> ajehuk: and errase the partitions I've made, using Gparted, booting from the CD
[09:43] <Juanca> ajehuk: how can I have a bad windows installation?
[09:43] <Jambon> soundray: the problem lies in the "\begin{multicols}{2}.....\end{multicols}"
[09:44] <ectospasm> Gparted is cool.  I was surprised that it successfully shrank my ntfs part
[09:44] <vio> ajehuk: done rebooting :)
[09:44] <Jambon> same error every time
[09:44] <Shafto> Juanca: Like he said you actually sure your booting off you windows cd? and not to your hdd?
[09:45] <Juanca> How can I know? in the BIOS the Cd is set as the first device to boot from
[09:45] <vio> ajehuk: that means i have rebooted..
[09:45] <vio> just incase..
[09:45] <danielm> ompaul, ok thanks. however, i'm not sure how i would use alternative boot params to diagnose a random freezing problem.
[09:45] <vio> i wasn't clear
[09:45] <Shafto> Juanca: Ermm you'll boot to windows setup
[09:45] <listeper> Hi, i would like to add my FTP mount into my bluefish. So I am able to edit file and see the folder and file tree inside bluefish. Is this doable?
[09:45] <mido4> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:45] <ajehuk> Juanca - You should be able to boot from the windows CD, without any issues at all, assuming that the windows CD is an install CD, - I dont know why your windows CD wouldnt allow you to boot.  The error you gave earlier, I have only ever seen with broken windows installs - that doesnt mean it has to be the case but hey, it might be.  If you cannot get the windows CD to the point of partitioning the hard drive, I am not sure what you wil
[09:45] <Juanca> Shafto: to the start of it, but then it stops and gives me the problem I told ou
[09:46] <ajehuk> Juanca - media for windows it may be worth a try throwing that in.
[09:46] <soundray> Jambon: please put the entire environment on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:46] <ajehuk> vio - kk
[09:46] <mido4> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:46] <ompaul> danielm, press esc an get into the boot menu editing window - during grub startup
[09:47] <soundray> Some problems go away spontaneously ;)
[09:47] <ompaul> mido4, this is a tech support channel for ubuntu - chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:47] <ompaul> soundray, ahh
[09:47] <geekytrent> Juanca, sounds like either the cd/dvd drive is messed up, or the windows cd/dvd is scratched or messed up some other way
[09:47] <ajehuk> vio - alright then, next up, we now know that ndiswrapper isnt loaded (you removed it) and that the bcm43xx module is loaded, can you do what we did earlier - switch the wifi off then on, and put the output of dmesg | tail into a pastebin...
[09:48] <danielm> ompaul, no i understand using grub. but i'm asking how will that help me to find the source of my problem. it's random, and during a safe boot, for example, i won't be using certain drivers maybe, which wouldn't prove anything since it isn't consistent.
[09:48] <Juanca> geekytrent: that sounds less deceiving. I will try with another drive
[09:48] <vio> !pastebin | vio
[09:49] <vio> ajehuk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16007/
[09:49] <geekytrent> Juanca, ok...cuz i have had crazy errors with some drives before when trying to reinstall windows...turns out the drives died a few weeks afterwards....
[09:49] <surviver> anyone know a good player in ubuntu? for wma mp3 ..
[09:49] <ajehuk> vio - grand - lets get you some firmware for that card...
[09:50] <vio> surviver: VLC
[09:50] <vio> !vlc | surviver
[09:50] <ubotu> surviver: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:50] <surviver> ty^
[09:50] <soundray> danielm: hard-to-reproduce crashes are usually hardware related. Is your problem temperature-related?
[09:50] <saxin> Rhythmbox \o/
[09:50] <Jambon> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16008/
[09:50] <ajehuk> vio - two options, 1) a one off install of the firmware, so if it works it works, or 2) adding dome sources to apt - which means you may get updates as they appear - any preference?
[09:50] <stepanstas> Does anyone know of a way to boost my mic volume?
[09:51] <ompaul> danielm, so what you need to do is stop one option at a time - read that page you will get my drift - or not
[09:51] <vio> ajehuk: which is the best? and what do you prefere..
[09:51] <geekytrent> Juanca, another thing, it could be that the eye is dirty in the drive
[09:51] <ajehuk> vio - erm, lets go for the former, its faster, i'll throw together a how-to later for the latter,
[09:52] <soundray> Jambon: any particular reason why you aren't using a thebibliography environment? Or a similar mechanism that LaTeX/LyX provide?
[09:52] <vio> ajehuk:  lets go with it ;)
[09:52] <ajehuk> vio - for now can you grab http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[09:52] <ajehuk> vio - wget http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb will do nicley
[09:52] <Jambon> soundray: probably because I don't know how those work
[09:52] <danielm> soundray, well that was my original suspicion. i found out that my intel core 2 duo was running at 60-70C. so i applied new paste and tightened the heatsink and lowered it to 39-44C (of course this is from bios, i haven't managed to get lm-sensors working to see it in realtime).
[09:52] <vio> ajehuk:  done
[09:52] <Dybber> Can anyone tell me how i get the font size smaller in Emacs? I currently use bitstream vera sans mono (defined in .Xdefaults) but i can't choose other sizes than pxlsz:17
[09:52] <ticky> does anybody know if backing up my /home with "cp -a /home/ /home_backup/"  would have caused any trouble?
[09:52] <Jambon> soundray: I just wanted two columns
[09:52] <danielm> soundray, so i *seems* like it's not overheating.
[09:53] <ajehuk> vio - next up (in the same directory that you downloaded that to (the one you are in if you used wget)) 'sudo dpkg -i bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb'
[09:53] <soundray> danielm: you certainly did a good thing there ;) If that hasn't helped, it could still be a hairline crack on the mainboard or similar.
[09:53] <ajehuk> vio - any errors - drop em into a pastebi
[09:53] <ajehuk> n
[09:53] <soundray> danielm: ice spray can come in handy sometimes...
[09:55] <cavediver> Hi. I can't seem to edit files on my ftp using nautilus. Only RO. But if I copy them locally, change them and copy it back it overwrites the file!
[09:55] <Cyrus25801> Can I write Ubuntu 6.10 to a DVD
[09:55] <vio> ajehuk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16009/
[09:55] <danielm> soundray, what a pain :) and ice spray? isn't that a thing for cars?
[09:55] <ajehuk> vio - great,
[09:56] <Jambon> soundray: it's for a resume, if that makes any difference
[09:56] <stepanstas> What am I supposed to hear when i press Test in Sound Preferences near Sound Capture
[09:56] <ajehuk> vio next up 'sudo modprobe -r  bcm43xx'
[09:56] <ajehuk> vio followed by 'sudo modprobe bcm43xx'
[09:56] <vio> ajehuk:  done (both)
[09:56] <soundray> Jambon: are you loading the multicol package?
[09:56] <renato> hi there... is the ubuntu 7.04 final version available in some mirror ?
[09:57] <ajehuk> vio then turn off the wifi turn it back on and then drop the output of  dmesg | tail into a pastebin...
[09:57] <Cyrus25801> Can I write Ubuntu 6.10 to a DVD and still boot from it
[09:57] <lmcculley> soundray: I am reading through that document you sent me and I'm having some trouble with the section labeled "Modifying the source for your needs". It indicates that there are configs in debian/config/ARCH but gives no starting point. Do you know where this is talking about?
[09:57] <Abeg92> question
[09:57] <Jambon> soundray: yup
[09:58] <Abeg92> I want to try Ubuntu, but I have no Linux experience
[09:58] <vio> ajehuk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16012/
[09:58] <Abeg92> I'm running a Mac
[09:58] <ajehuk> vio - congratulations, you card works.
[09:58] <Abeg92> I just want to try it out...
[09:58] <vio> ajehuk: wooohoo!! thanks alot buddy
[09:59] <jrib> Abeg92: you can try it straight from the cd without installing anything
[09:59] <vio> sweet.. i got the list.. about 9-10 wlans :D
[09:59] <Abeg92> k
[09:59] <soundray> Jambon: I suspect that the syntax you pasted is okay, but the problem is inside the environment. Have you tried with a single reference entry?
[09:59] <stepanstas> I need some help with my sound preferences, i think i have a problem with my sound capture
[09:59] <ajehuk> vio - use your gui network manager to set it up - if you have any other issues grab me.
[09:59] <anAngel> Could anybody suggest me a good and functional network monitor?
[09:59] <Abeg92> And you can do it on a Mac?
[09:59] <jrib> Abeg92: ppc?
[09:59] <vio> ajehuk: yeah it works great.. gonna try and unplug the wire now :) thanks a million.. you're a life saver :DDDD
[09:59] <ajehuk> vio - np
[10:00] <renato> hi there... is the ubuntu 7.04 final version already available ?
[10:00] <Abeg92> jrib: no, ill probably be putting it on an Intel macbook
[10:00] <DM|> So is there an alternative to "ALACARTE" because frankly, it blows
[10:00] <georgy_> renato : no, come out 19 april
[10:00] <dkbg> if I lock a specific version of a package in synaptic shouldn't that keep update manager from prompting me for updates to that package?
[10:00] <soundray> lmcculley: this should be a subdirectory of /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.17/ or similar
[10:00] <stepanstas> I need some help with my sound preferences, i think i have a problem with my sound capture
[10:00] <ajehuk> vio - I'll write that up and find somewhere to put it as a how-to, now if only I had a sexy red laptop to test with ... :)
[10:01] <lmcculley> soundray: that directory doesn't exist
[10:01] <velko> cavediver: do you use gedit by any chance (while clicking on the file in nautilus)? take a look at this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs2/+bug/67385
[10:01] <renato> georgy : thank you...
[10:01] <soundray> lmcculley: what version of the kernel are you compiling?
[10:01] <lmcculley> 2.6.17
[10:01] <Jambon> soundray: the problem occurs with nothing inbetween them
[10:01] <vi1> ajehuk: yeah it works great, thanks buddy, really made my day :)
[10:01] <georgy_> renato : np
[10:01] <soundray> lmcculley: have you installed linux-source-2.6.17?
[10:01] <lmcculley> yes
[10:02] <lmcculley> soundray: yes, i have. multiple times.
[10:02] <soundray> Jambon: sorry, I don't have an answer for you in that case.
[10:02] <jrib> Abeg92: I've never installed it on a macbook myself, but a google search for "ubuntu macbook" says it should work, but you may have to do some extra steps for the install
[10:02] <ajehuk> vi1 - Just remember to secure your wireless connection - I dont want to be responsible for the consequences if you dont :)
[10:02] <stepanstas> I need some help with my sound preferences, i think i have a problem with my sound capture
[10:02] <anAngel> Could anybody suggest me a good and functional network monitor?
[10:02] <Abeg92> ok
[10:02] <Jambon> soundray: the cursor goes right in front of the "\being{multicols}{2}" and highlights it when it gives me the error.
[10:02] <clutchmm> anyone know how I can set different wallpapers for each workspace?
[10:02] <simonsocial> could anyone help with installing mono? i get the following error mono: Depends: mono-common (= 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1) but 1.2.3.1-1ubuntu1~dhx1 is to be installed
[10:02] <simonsocial>         Depends: mono-jit (= 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1) but 1.2.3.1-1ubuntu1~dhx1 is to be installed
[10:02] <vi1> ajehuk: hehe, don't worry.. its just ppl i know around (about 72 of them) so no probs at all :)
[10:02] <jrib> Abeg92: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook as well
[10:02] <soundray> lmcculley: have you done a 'cd /usr/src && tar jxf kernel-source-2.6.17.tar.bz2'?
[10:03] <vi1> ajehuk: i got another question if its not to much?
[10:03] <bruenig> !info mono-common
[10:03] <jrib> simonsocial: you have unofficial repositories?
[10:03] <ubotu> mono-common: common files for Mono. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 600 kB
[10:03] <vi1> ajehuk:  and its not as severe as the last
[10:03] <lmcculley> i have linux-source-2.6.17.tar.bz2
[10:03] <clutchmm> anyone know how I can set different wallpapers for each workspace?
[10:03] <ajehuk> vi1 - go for it - not like I've got anything else to do :) - how may I help...
[10:03] <DM|> So is there an alternative to "ALACARTE" because frankly, it blows
[10:03] <simonsocial> not as far as i know... anyway of checking?
[10:03] <bruenig> DM|, edit the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications, that is what I do
[10:03] <soundray> Jambon: oh, does it really say "being" instead of "begin"?
[10:03] <jrib> DM|: not really, file bugs about the issues you have encountered so they can be fixed
[10:04] <Cyriaque> test
[10:04] <kiku> hi, i have problems when i boot a live cd of ubuntu 6.10 the X dont show up, i dont see...
[10:04] <clutchmm> anyone know how I can set different wallpapers for each workspace?
[10:04] <VSpike> can I remove the restricted modules package?
[10:04] <ajehuk> Cyriaque - worked
[10:04] <kiku> anyone know something?
[10:04] <soundray> lmcculley: that's a compressed archive. You have to unpack it with the tar command I gave you. Then the directory will be created.
[10:04] <VSpike> What does it provide?
[10:04] <vi1> ajehuk:  my laptop gets hot when the cpu is on "on demand" so i have to manually do this everytime i start my computer: sudo cpufreq-selector -g powersave (is there a way to uncomplicate this)?
[10:04] <lmcculley> soundray: I have done that already. I have the source unpacked in /usr/src
[10:04] <velko> DM|: http://www.gnomefiles.org/search.php?search=
[10:05] <bruenig> simonsocial, doing something like this should give you a good idea of non ubuntu repos, grep -Ev '^#|.ubuntu.com' /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:05] <soundray> lmcculley: if that is so, there should be a directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.17/
[10:05] <Jambon> soundray: bizarre. i just retyped it and it worked
[10:05] <stepanstas> I need some help with my sound preferences, i think i have a problem with my sound capture
[10:05] <danielm> soundray, actually i have a question about the power button. if it was a complete system freeze, would i still be able to hold down the power button to hard shutdown the computer? i'm looking through /var/log/kern.log and i see ACPI Power Button
[10:05] <lmcculley> soundray: my problem isn't until after i've run the command make-kpkg  --initrd binary --append-to-version=.20070416-custom kernel_image kernel_headers
[10:05] <kiku> I cant find the commands available to boot the live cd... any site???
[10:06] <lmcculley> soundray: under that directory there is no 'debian' subfolder
[10:06] <Cyrus25801> soundray: can i write 6.10 to dvd and boot from it or do I have to write it to CD
[10:06] <T`2> hi, my time is 1hr behind ... i think its the DST bug
[10:06] <gronbaek_> hi people. I have a problem with my wireless that i hope somebody can help me with. If i use wpa_supplicant manually, everything works.
[10:06] <Jambon> soundray: in that case, do you know how to keep one entry together and not be split across the columns?
[10:06] <aev> kiku: you probably need to adjust you bootorder
[10:06] <soundray> Arrgh!
[10:06] <ajehuk> vi1 - yeah there are anumber of ways to issue a command on startup or on boot, Im not sure but I wil lbet there is a nice gui program to use to do it, failing that you can create a bash script with just the command you want to issue in it and add it to your init scripts, Im sure someone in here will have a quick and easy answer as to whether there is a nice simple front end for editing init scripts in ubuntu..
[10:06] <T`2> i dont have any issues on my laptop which also runs ubuntu,b ut this one is having probs
[10:06] <T`2> anyone know how to fix it?
[10:06] <aev> kiku: in bios
[10:06] <lmcculley> Cyrus25801:  you can write it to dvd
[10:06] <simonsocial> there isn't anything unsual in there, one for WINE and one for Automatix
[10:06] <soundray> Jambon: so you're okay now?
[10:07] <bruenig> !automatix | simonsocial
[10:07] <ubotu> simonsocial: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:07] <DM|> bruenig whats happened is when i upgraded to feisty my "wine" was added and "transgaming" to my menu, BUT, alacarte wont let me delete them or hide them
[10:07] <gronbaek_> But if i use the nm-applet i wont get an ip address
[10:07] <kiku> aev, but i am running a live cd of Knoppix and it wokrs...
[10:07] <Cyrus25801> Imcculley, thanx
[10:07] <bruenig> DM|, delete them from /usr/share/applications like I siad
[10:07] <soundray> danielm: the hold-down function to force the machine off is a BIOS feature, not an ubuntu thing.
[10:07] <Jambon> soundray: well mostly. except for that last part about one entry being dragged across the columns
[10:07] <bruenig> s/siad/said/
[10:07] <danielm> soundray, that's what i thought.
[10:07] <gronbaek_> Does anybody know of something I could try?
[10:07] <DM|> bruenig its the folder, not the app,
[10:07] <simonsocial> I'd use a repo that was Debian but removed it because things did work
[10:07] <DM|> bruenig there is no folder in that dir.
[10:07] <clutchmm> anyone know how I can set different wallpapers for each workspace?
[10:08] <simonsocial> didn't*
[10:08] <kiku> aev, the cd loads perfectly but when the X goes on, it dont show nothing
[10:08] <soundray> Jambon: put it outside the environment
[10:08] <aev> kiku: you dont get to X?  Or do you dont get to the installer at all?
[10:08] <bruenig> DM|, something like /usr/share/applications/wine.desktop should exist
[10:08] <mbudde> clutchmm, http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/Wallpapoz
[10:08] <aev> kiku: i had that on the feisty beta. Is that what you use? or just edgy
[10:08] <bruenig> DM|, unless you have that debian menu thing
[10:08] <stepanstas> I need some help with my sound preferences, i think i have a problem with my sound capture
[10:08] <kiku> aev, i ear the sound of startup, but the image is black...
[10:08] <jrib> DM|: does this command return anything:  find ~/.local ! -user $USER
[10:08] <DM|> i think i do
[10:08] <aev> u could hit ctrl+alt f1 to get to a shell and dmesg
[10:08] <aev> if im not mistaken u could see the boot-up log
[10:08] <bruenig> simonsocial, mixing repos is a bad idea and hard to fix
[10:08] <aev> kiku: and work from there
[10:08] <Ryak> Does anyone know how I can tell if I am able to flash my bios to have a more robust version to provide more options?
[10:09] <soundray> Cyrus25801: I've never tried, but I'd be surprised if the DVD didn't boot just as nicely as the CD.
[10:09] <kiku> aev, i think its only 6.10
[10:09] <DM|> jrib no
[10:09] <vi1> ajehuk: hmm.. maybe we can do this another time?
[10:09] <aev> kiku: you likely need to change something in the X config xorg.conf but i couldnt tell you what at this point
[10:09] <Jambon> soundray: well the issue is the that the first 2 entries are in the first column and the third is the in the second. however, the 2nd entry has its last line in the 2nd column. if I put the 3rd entry outside it I end up going to the next page
[10:09] <ajehuk> vi1 - sure
[10:09] <Shafto> Ryak: Probably best checking manufacturer website to see if they have updates
[10:09] <vi1> ajehuk: did some1 steal my nick?
[10:09] <aev> kiku: you need more info first. ctrl alt f1, shell, dmesg
[10:09] <simonsocial> ok, if i do a removal of mono it lists all the stuff its want to remove, will this bugger things up?
[10:10] <kiku> aev, what dmesg do?
[10:10] <bruenig> simonsocial, worth a try I guess, if you are going to add repos in the future, make sure you know what you are doing and are comfortable fixing stuff that breaks.
[10:10] <Ryak> Shafto: yeah, was hoping for something better even.  it's an hp laptop and I am having problems booting to a usb hdd that I have ubuntu on and found one persons solution was to turn off auto detect for the hdd's which is not an option in my version of the Pheonix bios
[10:11] <simonsocial> yeah, was my bad cus didn't read it properly
[10:11] <soundray> Jambon: sorry, I can't really help you from here. I've never worked with the multicol package.
[10:11] <lmcculley> soundray: in the unpacked linux-source there doesn't seem to be a debian subfolder.
[10:11] <Jambon> soundray: k. thanks for the help
[10:11] <aev> kiku: AFAIK it shows you the most recent boot-up kernelish stuff.
[10:11] <aev> kiku: ahh " dmesg - print or control the kernel ring buffer  " ;)
[10:12] <kiku> aev, i already think if the problem is related with the AIGLX...
[10:12] <neosb> hi! how to move file from one directory to other one??
[10:12] <kiku> aev, i'm new in this, i dont understand that
[10:12] <jrib> neosb: right click > cut  go to new place  rigth click > paste
[10:12] <neosb> but in terminal/console??
[10:12] <aev> kiku: Then you could try removing it from your xorg.conf , did you edit your xorg.conf ?
[10:12] <jrib> neosb: mv
[10:12] <hendrixski> neosb, just drag and drop it... or in the terminal type 'mv from to'
[10:13] <kiku> aev, no...
[10:13] <jrib> !cli > neosb    (neosb, see the private message from ubotu)
[10:13] <T`2> hi, my time is 1hr behind ... i think its the DST bug.. i'm on PST .. anyone know how to fix this?
[10:13] <neosb> oh thanks :D
[10:13] <kiku> aev, where is that file?
[10:13] <sorcerer22> umm some one asist me .. with this .. problem i was here earlier .. but .. iam streaming music .. from this site buut .. its soo choppy and breaking up this is the site http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/innewmusicwetrust/petetong/
[10:13] <soundray> lmcculley: you could just 'sudo cp /boot/config-2.6.17-11-generic /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.17/.config' and use that as a starting point.
[10:13] <sorcerer22> i installed the two plug ina nd installed real player as well
[10:13] <sorcerer22> if that helped
[10:13] <sorcerer22> hels
[10:13] <aev> kiku: then why do you think its aiglx? i believe this is not enabled by default (live-cd)
[10:13] <sorcerer22> helps ..
[10:14] <lmcculley> soundray: I don't need a new config.
[10:14] <green_> is there a way to fix mplayer in edgy?
[10:14] <cyris> how can i tell what temp my cpu is ? in /proc ?
[10:14] <vi1> ajehuk: thanks for all the help. can't really thank you enough, i gotta go be a little social with my friends, i hope you have a pleasent day :)
[10:14] <lmcculley> soundray: I've customized my config for my specific hardware.
[10:14] <bruenig> green_, fixing assumes breakage
[10:14] <lmcculley> soundray: I'm having problems compiling the damn kernel :(
[10:14] <green_> yes its broke
[10:14] <kiku> aev, becaause i runing a knoppix live cd at this moment, and no problem occur, but in the ubuntu and kubuntu 6.10 i dont see the desktop, but i ear thhhhe sound of starttup
[10:14] <aev> kiku: /etc/X11/xorg.conf --> there lives the X config. However i dont see why you should need it on a live-cd
[10:15] <soundray> lmcculley: you can just ignore that section in that case. Please don't swear in the channel.
[10:15] <wo0lverine> re
[10:15] <Cyrus25801> How do I mount a ISO Image
[10:15] <bruenig> green_, well explaining that circumstances of such breakage will likely increase the likelihood of your being assisted in correcting
[10:15] <bruenig> !mountiso | Cyrus25801
[10:15] <soundray> !mountiso | Cyrus25801
[10:15] <ubotu> Cyrus25801: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:15] <aev> kiku: do you run some special new vidcard? something that knoppix could support but ubuntu would miss?
[10:16] <lmcculley> soundray: sorry for the 'swearing'. the darn kernel is having problem compiling.
[10:16] <kiku> aev, ok! do you know any command to install ubunto but dont running the live mode?
[10:16] <Cyrus25801> Thanx Guys
[10:16] <truvisionary> #ubuntu-effects
[10:16] <green_> well when i open a stream link station or video i get an error about mplayer
[10:16] <kiku> aev, i using a laptop, its the some vidcard
[10:16] <sorcerer22> could anyone please asist me with the problem i described above?
[10:17] <soundray> lmcculley: I'm not really the best person to help. Ask the channel again, and describe the compile problem in precise terms. Use the pastebin if necessary.
[10:17] <aev> kiku: thats the alternate install cd i believe, however if ubuntu does not get your hardware or misconfigures X i suppose it would do the same when booting from HDD
[10:17] <aev> kiku: try to find out which vidcard
[10:17] <lmcculley> soundray: not a problem. Thanks for your help. :)
[10:17] <aev> there will be somewhere here who can tell you a handy shellcommand :)
[10:17] <VSpike> in aptitude search, what does package status "c" mean?
[10:17] <lmcculley> soundray: would you know where the linux headers are located?
[10:17] <kiku> aev, ati mob raadeeonX700
[10:17] <soundray> lmcculley: /usr/src as well
[10:17] <MrNOKIA> hello people
[10:17] <soundray> lmcculley: if you have installed the linux-headers package
[10:18] <surviver> hy
[10:18] <soundray> lmcculley: you don't really need them, though. They are a subset of the kernel source.
[10:18] <lmcculley> soundray: I need them to install VMWare drivers
[10:19] <aev> kiku:  i suppose you would want to install the binary ati drivers. (i have nvidia so dont know how tbh)
[10:19] <kiku> aev, i gonna try to edit the Xorg.conf and see what i caan do
[10:19] <soundray> lmcculley: you can choose to install them, or to point the driver installation to the kernel source directory instead.
[10:19] <aev> kiku: probably easiest from a hdd install
[10:19] <aev> kiku: or, try feisty
[10:19] <Emelian> Anyone....? I just installed the ATI drivers together with the control panel. But how do I bring that control panel up? Can't find it. The 60 Hz display is making me slightly mad... :)
[10:20] <jason_> if i disable IPv6 and and change all the low leavel natworking opitons will it speed up my system
[10:20] <kiku> aev, ok...
[10:20] <aev> kiku: thursday its out if im not mistaken, hopefully that 'just works' for you
[10:20] <kiku> aev, thanks ;)
[10:20] <MrNOKIA> a
[10:20] <aev> kiku: nps hope it helps
[10:20] <razzorz> hey folks...havin issues with VLC playin back dvd's its ok.. but its Sketchy.. .. is there a more stable Media player?
[10:20] <kiku> aev, what??
[10:21] <aev> nps > np's > no problems
[10:21] <soundray> jason_: probably not. More likely, it will cause problems that are hard to track down.
[10:21] <kiku> aev, i gonna try, if a cant make it, i will back here :D
[10:21] <bluegekko> hi, does anyone know why a wireless keyboard that works in the BIOS, in grub, and in Windows XP would not work in ubuntu? it is a microsoft comfort keyboard/mouse combo.
[10:21] <velko> razzorz: try to enable first dma for the dvd drive before looking for another player (hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdX if i remember correctly)
[10:21] <MikeB-> I'm using the ATI fglrx 6.34.8 drivers, is it worth upgrading to the 8.35.5 drivers?
[10:22] <psycho78> the ubuntu.com website says in 4 days
[10:22] <darwin> The local university in my area is tracking user activity online: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-download1607apr16,0,7402370.story
[10:22] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: I tried to mount the ISO but nothing happened. I ran this command: sudo mount -o loop,ro /media/Jacques/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso /mnt/cdrom
[10:22] <Aiwuu> imagemagick
[10:22] <jason_> i read on the net that it would spped up internet by 200% in ubuntu
[10:22] <MikeB-> would havepackagerather that a  to compile by hand
[10:22] <Aiwuu> what is imagemagick?
[10:22] <ompaul> robdeman, I am now over 200k with files in production
[10:22] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, why are you mounting that?
[10:22] <Aiwuu> how i can install imagemagick?
[10:22] <Aiwuu> helloooooooooooo?
[10:22] <robdeman> ompaul: sweet, when i reach 200k I will be rich :)
[10:22] <bruenig> !patience | Aiwuu
[10:22] <ubotu> Aiwuu: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:22] <ferronica> how to open multiple part .rar file?
[10:22] <soundray> !imagemagick | Aiwuu
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imagemagick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: because I dont have a CD to write it to so I wnat to write it to DVD
[10:22] <soundray> !info imagemagick | Aiwuu
[10:22] <ubotu> aiwuu: imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-0.10ubuntu0.2 (edgy), package size 724 kB, installed size 3168 kB
[10:23] <putridp> !diskless
[10:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:23] <ompaul> robdeman, eh just files generataed
[10:23] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, you can write it to dvd without mounting it
[10:23] <Cyrus25801> brue
[10:23] <robdeman> ompaul: yeah I understand that
[10:23] <bluegekko> i would really appreciate any help
[10:23] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: what program do I use
[10:23] <Aiwuu> ok tans
[10:23] <ferronica> how to open multiple part .rar file espise-xvid-marsh.r1, espise-xvid-marsh.r2 lile this upto 47
[10:23] <jason_> the best way i found out how to open rar. files is to install wine and then install windwos version of win rar and open them like that
[10:23] <darwin> darwin
[10:23] <ferronica> how to open multiple part .rar file espise-xvid-marsh.r1, espise-xvid-marsh.r2 like this upto 47
[10:24] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, any burning programs or from the command line, growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/whatever=ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:24] <ompaul> !repeat | ferronica
[10:24] <ubotu> ferronica: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:24] <onexused> ferronica: extract the first part (.rar) and the rest will automatically follow
[10:24] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: thanx
[10:24] <ferronica> onexused: via terminal
[10:24] <Bupsss> hi
[10:25] <Cyrus25801> brue
[10:25] <Emelian> I just burned out the Ubuntu CD ISO to a DVD in Nero. Worked fine for me. Before burning, I just had to change to DVD in the Nero media type dropdown list.
[10:25] <onexused> ferronica: I only use wine+ winrar gui. sorry : \
[10:25] <ferronica> onexused: oh okay .
[10:25] <riaal> what is scons and how do I get it?
[10:25] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: can I upgrade my 6.06 to 6.10 without loosing data
[10:25] <xtknight> riaal, scons is a building mechanism like automake or configure
[10:25] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, you can upgrade without reinstalling
[10:25] <xtknight> riaal, sudo apt-get install scons
[10:26] <bruenig> !upgrading | Cyrus25801
[10:26] <ubotu> Cyrus25801: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:26] <trainer__> Could someone explain the different xorg.conf section to me? Device, Monitor, and Screen? I have a builtin video card and a Radeon 7000, with 2 monitors, and I'm trying to get them working as a single desktop. Is there a general doc I can look at for manually editing xorg.conf?
[10:26] <ompaul> Cyrus25801, in theory yes, but be warned - if you added repos from outside the ubuntu core repos you may fail
[10:26] <xtknight> trainer__, if youd like to learn about it i suggest googling it.  if you just want a working system i wouldnt worry aobut them
[10:27] <razzorz> Velko: thanks man and you were close  its ( hdparm -d /dev/hdc )
[10:27] <PluckyBlade> scons is a build tool -- like make/autoconf/automake only human beings can understand it ;)
[10:28] <PluckyBlade> scons is python based too
[10:28] <xtknight> hope im a human being.. i understand automake/configure :\
[10:28] <xtknight> :P
[10:30] <Cyrus25801> ompaul: thanx for the advise
[10:30] <Cyrus25801> ompaul: that is the case unfotunatly
[10:30] <neosb> i've installed newest java and it doesn't work on firefox. i've done everything what is sayed on http://java.com/pl/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting and i still can't run java
[10:31] <bruenig> neosb, uninstall that
[10:31] <francois> does anyone know of a computer repair room ?
[10:31] <bruenig> sun-java6-plugin, to add all the extra official repositories and install neosb, make sure synaptic, update-manager, or any other package managers are closed, open a terminal (applications>accessories>terminal) and copy and paste the following all at once:
[10:31] <bruenig> sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/universe$/universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install neosb
[10:31] <bruenig> neosb, to add all the extra official repositories and install sun-java6-plugin, make sure synaptic, update-manager, or any other package managers are closed, open a terminal (applications>accessories>terminal) and copy and paste the following all at once:
[10:31] <bruenig> sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/universe$/universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[10:31] <jrr> i enabled beryl last night, and it was awesomely easy.  wtg, ubuntu.
[10:32] <paul201> hello
[10:32] <paul201> i accidently deleted the gaim icon from where it was by the time
[10:32] <paul201> how do i get it back?
[10:32] <RAW-mEAT> put a starter
[10:32] <RAW-mEAT> oh no.
[10:32] <RAW-mEAT> sry, you mean the "tray" icon?
[10:33] <paul201> panel
[10:33] <RAW-mEAT> just restart gaim
[10:33] <neosb> problem when installing java NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[10:34] <Flare183> Can anyone tell me how to find which xorg.conf files that X is using?
[10:35] <paul201> i have a problem with sound it only works half the time i start up ubuntu
[10:35] <georgy_> Flare183 : /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:35] <paul201> and i dont change any of the setting
[10:35] <jason_> how do i save changes to the aliases file when i try to save changes it say i dont have permission to change it
[10:35] <razzorz> Velko: still Studders ... VLC that is...
[10:36] <velko> razzorz: so the problem is not with dma. i use bot mplayer and vlc and i'm happy with both
[10:36] <IdleOne> jason_: use gksu gedit ( or whatever editor your using ) to edit the file then save
[10:37] <cavediver> velko: yes it's gedit
[10:37] <il-luzhin> please help getting res to 1440x900
[10:37] <razzorz> Velko : it plays back ok. but when a good part of action or bright i get a Distortion or studdering like the disk cant keep up ... its odd
[10:37] <jrib> jason_: if you just want to add aliases for your user you should use a file in your HOME
[10:37] <neosb> when installing java got this: W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263 what deos it mean??
[10:37] <jrib> neosb: you need to add the gpg key for the wine repo
[10:38] <velko> cavediver: maybe it's this known problem. one developer is now in the process of rewriting gnome-vfs. we have to be patient :-)
[10:38] <dystopianray_> is there any way I can get the kernel strtup text to display like the star wars intro scrolling text?
[10:38] <jobob> hi all1
[10:38] <jobob> !
[10:38] <IdleOne> dystopianray_: let me know if you figure it out I would like that also
[10:38] <neosb> jrib: how to do that?
[10:38] <razzorz> Velko: and Audio... Just stops... sometimes.. got to reboot to bring it back...even then it takes 2 or 3 reboot times b4 i hear the Log in Dongs
[10:38] <jason_> iam trying to tuen off ipv6 from the aliases from the /etc/modprobe.d/aliases file but it will not let me save the changes
[10:39] <jrib> neosb: wine site mentions it, try googling for: gpg key for the wine repo
[10:39] <jobob> is there any way I can access data from a seperate partition using ubuntu??
[10:39] <velko> razzorz: is the dvd ok? this could be the problem too. not sure though
[10:39] <bruenig> jobob, mount that separate partition
[10:39] <LjL> !ntfs > jobob    (jobob, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:39] <neosb> i've tryied just wine repo :)
[10:39] <bruenig> he assumes it is ntfs
[10:39] <neosb> jrib: i've tryied just wine repo :)
[10:39] <razzorz> Velko:Brand new.. and it happens to all of them.. have been resorting goin on windows side and useing WMP
[10:39] <bruenig> neoj, go online to where you got that wine repo, and get the key
[10:40] <jason_> it keeps saying i dont ahve permission to chnge this file
[10:40] <jrib> jason_: what exactly are you doing?
[10:40] <bruenig> neosb, ^
[10:40] <velko> razzorz: does mplayer have the same problem with the disk?
[10:40] <razzorz> Nope
[10:40] <razzorz> Clean
[10:40] <razzorz> crisp
[10:40] <Cyrus25801> brue
[10:40] <albert_> hi, does anybody know, how i can set a system-wide /CHARSET ISO-8859-15
[10:40] <albert_> ?
[10:40] <velko> razzorz: it looks like vlc problem then
[10:40] <jason_> alias net-pf-10 ipv6 off
[10:40] <jason_> alias net-pf-10 off
[10:40] <jason_> alias ipv6 off
[10:40] <jason_> #alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[10:40] <jason_> adding them lines
[10:41] <jrib> jason_: please don't paste here, what command are you doing to edit the file?
[10:41] <eck> albert_: i think it depend on your filesystem... afaik the charset of ext3 is always utf8
[10:41] <jason_> it turns off ipv6
[10:41] <jason_> text edit
[10:41] <razzorz> velko: gather that..hehe but b4 i get rid of it... any sujestions?
[10:41] <IdleOne> jason_: close the file and open a terminal then type gksu gedit and edit the file then save changes
[10:41] <velko> razzorz: what is b4?
[10:41] <razzorz> B 4 " before
[10:41] <eck> albert_: if you look at the mount man page you can see the options for mounting various filesystems with different character sets
[10:42] <velko> razzorz: oh - i got it :-)
[10:42] <razzorz> LMAO
[10:42] <albert_> eck: k
[10:42] <Bupsss> hi guys
[10:42] <bruenig> !1337 | razzorz
[10:42] <ubotu> razzorz: 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[10:42] <velko> razzorz: no suggestion. sorry
[10:42] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: I wrote the 6.10 image to dvd and when I tried to run the install from boot it told me that the Kernel is corrupt. is the a way I can mount the image and check if the image is ok
[10:42] <Bupsss> has anyone ever used shoutcast tv?
[10:42] <albert_> !mount
[10:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:42] <razzorz> Velko: whats that about?
[10:42] <Bupsss> if yes... do u know where i can find the codec?
[10:42] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, make sure you checked the md5sume and burned it slowly
[10:42] <razzorz> Sorry Ubotu:....
[10:43] <velko> razzorz: i meant that i don't know what could cause the problems with vlc. use mplayer if it does not exhibit this problems
[10:43] <il-luzhin> old pc was stolen, trying ubuntu/linux for first time, can anyone help change res to 1440x900? thnx
[10:43] <albert_> eck: sorry for bugging you, but i'm very new to linux and don't really get the point ;)
[10:43] <jason_> thanks that worked
[10:43] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: like how slow
[10:43] <jason_> i tell u all how this works i have to restart
[10:43] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, I usually just do it at a normal speed but people seem to recommend 4x
[10:44] <eck> albert_: you are trying to mount your filesystem with another character set, right?
[10:44] <albert_> eck: ye
[10:44] <eck> albert_: or just change the encodings of the files on it?
[10:44] <razzorz> Ok then... so humm now what... anyone got sujestions?
[10:44] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: I am using gnome baker do I select burn dvd image or cd image
[10:44] <albert_> eck: i just want to get my charset straight ;)
[10:45] <velko> razzorz: and btw ubotu is a program. it just reacts on actions triggered by !
[10:45] <razzorz> i assumed that much ..ty
[10:45] <eck> albert_: your linux filesystem will be utf8 encoded. you can mount an ntfs/fat partition with another character encoding, which is set as a mount parameter. however, none of this has anything to do with the character encoding of the files themselves on the filesystem, only the encoding used for the file names
[10:45] <razzorz> Velko: so whats another good Dvd Playback player?
[10:46] <albert_> eck: i figured it was sth about the keybord-layout
[10:46] <georgy_> razzorz : xine
[10:46] <albert_> eck: i think i get the point
[10:46] <velko> razzorz: i use mplayer for everythins since years and i'm happy with it. ask what the others will suggest
[10:46] <razzorz> Georgy: never got that to work for me
[10:47] <cables> razzorz, I use VLC, but it is a bit sluggish to pause and resume playback on DVDs.
[10:47] <georgy_> razzorz : work fine for me
[10:47] <lancerr> Hi all. Does anyone know if the pause in the starting of 7.04 beta is due to some sort of logging which will only be present in the beta or is it something which will still be there in the final? I haven't started in recovery mode to take a look...
[10:47] <eck> albert_: changing the encoding of the filesystem is generally only useful if a windows partition has a weird nonstandard character encoding and the file names are mangled
[10:47] <Pelo> razzorz,  it's realy your choice,  just about every player plays just about every kind of format you can throw at it
[10:47] <razzorz> Georgy: maybe its me.. but ya...never played back the dvd's or mp3's
[10:47] <albert_> eck: ye, i get this, but that's not the point, really
[10:48] <h1st0> lancerr: there shouldn't be a pause but fiesty support is in #ubuntu+1 until its release
[10:49] <albert_> eck: k, but that's not my concern, cause i don't use windows, it's just that my xchat output of   is weird
[10:49] <stepanstas> I have 4 choices when downloading a driver.  I'm sure its one of the first two, but which one? Linux(kernel version 2.2.14 or 2.4), Others, RHEL4 update 4, Redhat Fedora core 5
[10:49] <lancerr> h1st0: ah.. there seems to be a pause in its loading which *really* slows down the start-up. I'll have to find out :)
[10:49] <jason_> ok i disable the ipv6
[10:49] <jason_> and it makes web pages lad faster
[10:49] <jason_> load
[10:49] <eck> albert_: that kind of stuff is generally application specific... maybe the people in #xchat can help
[10:49] <georgy_> stepanstas, : uname -r in a console, and you will know
[10:50] <razzorz> Jason :how do you do that ipv6 ??? i did it on open susie.. but not here
[10:50] <albert_> eck: k, thank you for your help. i didn't make myself fully clear, so sorry about it
[10:50] <jason_> hang on i tell u
[10:50] <nicholas76> I have a question about installing Ubuntu: Will it ask you for a username?
[10:50] <razzorz> kk
[10:50] <Luxurious> nicholas76: Yes.
[10:50] <jason_> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html
[10:50] <razzorz> yes
[10:50] <stepanstas> georgy_:  2.6.17-10-generic, so would i select 2?
[10:50] <jason_> go there it tell u how
[10:50] <nicholas76> Can you set up multiple accounts?
[10:51] <jason_> it works to
[10:51] <Cyrus25801> I need some help. brueing was helping me but he is gone now. I want to write a 6.10 iso to dvd. I did it but i go a corrupt kernel error when I tried running it. can someone help
[10:51] <razzorz> ty
[10:51] <stepanstas> georgy_:  the"others?"
[10:51] <georgy_> stepanstas,
[10:51] <Flare183> any body know how to insert the module "GL_ARB_fragment_program" into the xorg.conf file?
[10:51] <Luxurious> nicholas76: As far as I remember you can't do that in the initial installation, but that's easily done subsequent to it.
[10:51] <jason_> iam begain to love ubuntu
[10:51] <nicholas76> OK, that helps :)
[10:51] <stepanstas> georgy_:  yes?
[10:52] <velko> lancerr: it looks either like some program tries to access the network (and the timeout slows you down) or like hardware detection routine
[10:52] <nicholas76> Is ubuntu more reliable than Windows or OS X?
[10:52] <NewbieBaba> when is Feisty coming up?
[10:52] <georgy_> stepanstas : 2 is for 2.4 kernel, so gi guess you have to choice 'others'
[10:52] <nicholas76> 19th
[10:52] <razzorz> OH wow just installed XINE and the controls are all MESSED UP.. like i can move the box but its messed up.. Can read anything
[10:52] <NewbieBaba> cant wait
[10:52] <stepanstas> georgy_: alright, thanks
[10:52] <Cyrus25801> MrNOKIA: why r u pining my machine???!!!
[10:52] <jason_> well i have not had any problems with ubuntu seems way more reliable than windows
[10:52] <razzorz> thats why i never used it
[10:52] <BluRay> Hello!
[10:53] <cavediver> velko: ah ok :)
[10:53] <mdolan> nicholas76: why don't you try a livecd version or run it in vmware to test it out?
[10:53] <nicholas76> Ya, I have
[10:53] <nicholas76> LCD
[10:53] <nicholas76> *Live CD
[10:53] <lancerr> velko - I think it's probably the former, but I will take a look in any case :)
[10:53] <BluRay> i'm currently using windows.. and i would like to install ubuntu.. can i run windows programs in ubuntu like photoshop, dreameaver.. and that stuff?
[10:54] <nicholas76> No
[10:54] <Cyrus25801> I need some help. brueing was helping me but he is gone now. I want to write a 6.10 iso to dvd. I did it but i go a corrupt kernel error when I tried running it. can someone helpm
[10:54] <nicholas76> you must get Linux versions
[10:54] <razzorz> well crap..haha
[10:54] <Shafto> BluRay: You can get free alternatives, gimp for photoshop, nvu for dreamweaver
[10:54] <jason_> well in wine u can run some programs
[10:54] <BluRay> i don't want alternatives.. can i use photoshop original?
[10:54] <nicholas76> GParted for Norton Partition manager...
[10:54] <mdolan> BluRay: you can also try using wine or crossover office to run windows apps on Linux
[10:54] <onexused> BluRay: wine works occasionally for that, but the Linux versions of those programs usu. work better
[10:54] <nicholas76> no
[10:54] <jason_> i like crossover its pretty good
[10:55] <BluRay> is it fine to run vmware?
[10:55] <nicholas76> Try GIMPShop
[10:55] <BluRay> to run win programs?
[10:55] <nicholas76> no
[10:55] <Pelo> does anyone know an app to split a large mp3 file into small segments ?
[10:55] <dager> BluRay: the alternatives are normally just as good, or better than, the windows versions of similar software
[10:55] <BluRay> nicholas76, why?
[10:55] <nicholas76> for linux photoshop
[10:55] <jason_> yea vmware is fine
[10:55] <nicholas76> ...but its slow
[10:55] <Shafto> BluRay: The free ones are just as good
[10:55] <Faugn> Pelo: mp3splt
[10:55] <neosb> server down > packages.freecontrib.org (88.191.33.6)
[10:55] <Pelo> Faugn,  thanks
[10:56] <BluRay> nicholas76, is it too slow? :(
[10:56] <Flare183> does any body know how to insert the module "GL_ARB_fragment_program" into the xorg.conf file?
[10:56] <nicholas76> VMPlayer is...
[10:56] <nicholas76> but on regular linux...FAST
[10:56] <georgy_> Flare183 : sudo modprobe module
[10:56] <neosb> server down > packages.freecontrib.org (88.191.33.6) > now runnin'
[10:56] <razzorz> Velko:wow this is new... http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/edgy-seveas/all/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[10:56] <BluRay> VMPlayer is what?
[10:57] <onexused> BluRay: qemu (virtualizer, like vmware) runs quite slow on my 2.53 GHz 512MB RAM machine
[10:57] <razzorz> i get that on the update
[10:57] <nicholas76> a little slo
[10:57] <francois> is there a chanel for fixing computers ?
[10:57] <BluRay> onexused... :(((
[10:57] <Flare183> no in the xorg.conf
[10:57] <velko> razzorz: i don't seem to understand?
[10:57] <Flare183> file
[10:57] <Linuxnewbie756> is there any good programs for overwriting files many many times to make the securely gone?
[10:57] <razzorz> Velko: sorry
[10:57] <velko> razzorz: np
[10:58] <Faugn> Linuxnewbie756: man shred
[10:58] <razzorz> Velko: i get that when i was trying to do and Update...
[10:58] <Cyrus25801> francois: yes, #dump_IT_in_THE_bin
[10:58] <nicholas76> Linuxnewbe: try man shred
[10:58] <rob-west> is there a way to play Call of duty 2 in linux
[10:58] <georgy_> Flare183 : wih module
[10:58] <Linuxnewbie756> Faugn: so is shred already installed on ubuntu?
[10:58] <razzorz> Velko: it download like 52 updates then that pops ups
[10:58] <Cyrus25801> francois: only kidding. sorry I don't know
[10:58] <georgy_> *wich module ?
[10:58] <Faugn> Linuxnewbie756: yes
[10:58] <nicholas76> no
[10:58] <francois> Cyrus25801: didn't think so, lol
[10:58] <nicholas76> yes
[10:58] <onexused> BluRay: gimp works quite well instead of photoshop, and openoffice instead of MSFT office, if you want to -try- the Linux native versions
[10:58] <jmvidalvia> hi! I have two ubuntu machines in my LAN. Can I send messages from one to another using postfix (sendmail)?
[10:58] <Flare183> GL_ARB_fragment_program
[10:58] <Cyrus25801> francois: what prob are you having
[10:58] <jason_> call of duty dont it work in wine
[10:59] <BluRay> onexused, but i like photoshop more than gimp ..
[10:59] <dager> BluRay: aside from the names of the software, I doubt you'll be able to tell the difference :)
[10:59] <jason_> i think it works in wine iam not sure
[10:59] <Flare183> georgy:>GL_ARB_fragment_program
[10:59] <Shafto> BluRay: You use GIMPshop then
[10:59] <nicholas76> ^^like i said
[10:59] <Flare183> georgy:>into the xorg.conf file
[10:59] <francois> Cyrus25801: burnt out laptop, i never fixed a laptop before, i guess the guy said he had it on carpet, and heard a pop and it never turned on again
[10:59] <NewbieBaba> !beryl
[10:59] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:59] <BluRay> Ok, i'll try when i get ubuntu.. :D
[11:00] <nicholas76> Has anyone heard of ubuntu studio?
[11:00] <jason_> nope
[11:00] <Shafto> BluRay: You'll always find the open source alternative, to be just as good, if not better
[11:00] <nicholas76> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Studio
[11:00] <onexused> BluRay:you could always try it under wine or crossover office first. Some programs run well like that, but some don't at all
[11:00] <razzorz> can anyone help me with this little issue?
[11:00] <nicholas76> sure
[11:00] <Linuxnewbie756> Faugn: so it mentions ext3 doesn't work well with shredding, wait, i think i mean it is hard to totally delete files off of ext3, any knowledge?
[11:00] <razzorz> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/edgy-seveas/all/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[11:01] <razzorz> when i do update
[11:01] <velko> razzorz: it looks like the server is down. you can't do anything about it
[11:01] <razzorz> oic ok
[11:01] <Faugn> Linuxnewbie756: no, sorry
[11:01] <razzorz> Ty
[11:01] <nicholas76> Server is down. be patient
[11:01] <Cyrus25801> francois: on a desktop PC i could have helped you but that sounds like the motherboard or CPU fried. sorry I can't be more help. But I can give you some advise. Take to someone that knows what they are dong. Once you have taken a laptp appart it is hell getting it back together
[11:01] <Linuxnewbie756> Faugn: thanks anyways
[11:01] <razzorz> been like that for sometime now tho
[11:01] <nicholas76> Look for a mirror.
[11:02] <velko> razzorz: you can switch to another server (not the nl one)
[11:02] <mrigns> is there a way to set rhythmbox' chache size? it starts scattering whenlistening to audiostream/radios and start playback immediately after catching the connection without any buffering
[11:02] <Cyrus25801> francois: very fine ribbon cables that break very easily
[11:02] <velko> cables: :-)
[11:02] <cables> Does anyone know of a good PowerPoint/Keynote replacement for Linux? No, Impress really doesn't cut it.
[11:02] <Cyrus25801> well I broke one before on a laptot
[11:03] <francois> Cyrus25801: lol yeah, i know, hence why i'm looking for help, but i need to find a room who deals with laptops
[11:03] <razzorz> Velko: please do tell
[11:03] <Cyrus25801> cables: openoffice has one
[11:03] <jmvidalvia> hi! I have two ubuntu machines in my LAN. Can I send messages from one to another using postfix (sendmail)?
[11:03] <dager> cables: there's an application that comes with koffice that does presentations, but the name is escaping me
[11:03] <aev> cables: crossover
[11:03] <cables> Cyrus25801, yeah, and it's called OpenOffice Impress :)
[11:03] <cables> aev, uh, no.
[11:03] <Cyrus25801> francois: well good luck
[11:03] <cables> dager, I'll check out koffice
[11:03] <NewbieBaba> i cant use "Alt Gr" on xchat anyone can help me ?
[11:04] <jason_> if it made a poping sound it is most likely ur cpu poped it fried get a new one
[11:04] <Cyrus25801> cables: sorry ditn't read propley. google it
[11:04] <raich> hey i've got this new Insignia player and ubuntu edgy doesn't recognize it or does anything when i plug it in... some help? how to browse the files if ubuntu doesn't see it?
[11:04] <francois> jason_: really ? maybe lucky and it was a fan ? :(
[11:04] <velko> razzorz: replace your repos with the german ones for example: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[11:04] <nicholas76> This: http://ubuntustudio.org/ is going to be sooooooo cool
[11:04] <jason_> fan maybe
[11:04] <Cyrus25801> francois: fans don't pop
[11:04] <jason_> but most likely cpu though
[11:05] <onexused> raich: mp3 player? cd/dvd player?
[11:05] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[11:05] <raich> onexused, opps, mp3 / avi player
[11:05] <aev> raich: you wanna buy mp3 players which can be a 'universal mass storage device' if u can , otherwise
[11:05] <raich> aev, it can hold some files but ubuntu doesn't recognize it
[11:05] <kneeki> Hmm, is it a lot of work to get a shared folder on my Windows PC and laptop running Ubuntu? (both on the network)
[11:05] <L0rd_Rahl> i'm running ubuntu 6.10. all of my cronjobs that take > 1 min to run stop after 1 minute. is this a known issue? I'm running the script via 0 4 * * * /path/to/script.sh
[11:05] <kneeki> !samba
[11:05] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:06] <francois> Cyrus25801: argh, i hate venturing in the dark, not knowing anything
[11:06] <raich> aev? onexused?
[11:06] <nicholas76> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, or Edubuntu?
[11:06] <aev> raich: you should google the exact name and type, to figure out if its got linux drivers. I dont know where usb-players drivers come from generally
[11:06] <onexused> raich: dunno if it'd work: have you tried something like "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/flash" ?
[11:06] <jupiter> Ubuntu
[11:07] <razzorz> Velko: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu don't seem to work
[11:07] <aev> raich: ie. What is exact name type of device
[11:07] <hendaus> helpers i needa help!
[11:07] <razzorz> Velko: i put that in thirdparty Correct?
[11:07] <razzorz> or am i way off?
[11:08] <onexused> hendaus: yay for you : )
[11:08] <onexused> hendaus: if you don't say what it is, we can't help : )
[11:08] <velko> razzorz: i'm not on ubuntu. try looking for mirrors on the net. or ask what the others have here. sorry for the misleading info :-(
[11:08] <hendaus> onexused,  thanx
[11:08] <opapo> I get ":certificate verify failed" when I try to connect to an ldaps server
[11:08] <opapo> Where do I need which certificates?
[11:08] <hendaus> onexused, i download a file .torrent by ktorrent and i move the file to another directory , then i move it back another time to the ktorrent directory and it starts downloading another time, how can i make it seeding?
[11:08] <razzorz> Ahhh i c.. well thanks anyways
[11:08] <raich> aev, ok i google the exact name and search for linux drivers.. rite. dunno why i didn't try that =p
[11:08] <francois> whois jrib
[11:08] <velko> razzorz: or try to replace nl by de in your sourses.list
[11:09] <raich> onexused: that was exactly what i was asking for, which are the folders that hold the links to the usb ports?
[11:09] <razzorz> ok
[11:09] <mrigns> is there a way to set rhythmbox' chache size? it starts scattering whenlistening to audiostream/radios and start playback immediately after catching the connection without any buffering
[11:09] <dager> hendaus: it will seed automatically once it's finished downloading
[11:09] <Cyrus25801> francois: that is the fastest way you learn
[11:09] <aev> raich: if you are lucky, maybe the next ubuntu version will support it out of the box
[11:09] <onexused> raich: I find usually /dev/sd*
[11:09] <razzorz> haha whats the soruce list cmd? lmao
[11:09] <francois> Cyrus25801: and break nice laptops lol
[11:09] <mrigns> !rhythmbox
[11:09] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:09] <velko> razzorz: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:09] <opapo> Where is a good channel for secure ldap on an Ubuntu server?
[11:09] <raich> aev, i wish i was lucky
[11:09] <razzorz> ty
[11:10] <raich> onexused, thanks
[11:10] <aev> raich: in general /dev/ is where devices live /dev/sd /dev/HD* /dev/cdrom etcetera. However in ubuntu the data of those devices is
[11:10] <onexused> handaus: unfort, I don't know much about bittorrent. I never use it.
[11:10] <aev> raich: mounted to /media/
[11:10] <razzorz> Oh great.. file not found
[11:10] <raich> onexused, diego@maru:/dev$ ls | grep sd
[11:10] <raich> ptysd
[11:10] <raich> ttysd
[11:10] <raich> diego@maru:/dev$
[11:10] <hendaus> dager, the file has finished, but i make it move to another folder, then another time i put it back to the ktoorent directory and it begins downloading another time
[11:10] <razzorz> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[11:10] <aev> raich: this should happen automatically, if it does not. You need an expert, a walkthrough or the corrrect phase of the moon
[11:11] <UeB> hallo i have an acer notebook with an integrated card reader  it worked fine before i upgrade to "edgy". now after the upgrade it does not work anymore. Or maybe just the automounting doesnot work anymore.
[11:11] <dager> hendaus: you dont need to move it, if you move anything manually the torrent will reset
[11:11] <raich> aev, lol? =0
[11:11] <velko> razzorz: you have to do it as root: sudo
[11:11] <simonsocial> i'm trying to install something and when i run configure i get "No package 'mono' found"
[11:11] <razzorz> i am sure i am....
[11:11] <UeB> lspci say:
[11:11] <UeB> 06:06.3 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller
[11:11] <UeB> 06:06.4 Class 0805: Texas Instruments PCI6411, PCI6421, PCI6611, PCI6621, PCI7411, PCI7421, PCI7611, PCI7621 Secure Digital (SD) Controller
[11:11] <hendaus> dager,  so what can i do
[11:12] <hendaus> dager,  it is big 3.85 gb
[11:12] <razzorz> yes i am Root..
[11:12] <razzorz> and still
[11:12] <dager> hendaus: you dont do anything :P once the torrent finishes downloading, it will automatically start seeding as long as you dont move anything
[11:12] <hderms> i am having troubles getting grub to boot windwos can anyone help
[11:12] <UeB> which sounds good to me
[11:12] <Caplain> hey, anyone get ipn2220 working?
[11:12] <Linuxnewbie756> is there any disadvantages of using ext2 over ext3? i have ext3 on a drive, but am about to put ext2 on it, anyone want to talk me out of it?
[11:13] <razzorz> WOW this is greta
[11:13] <razzorz> great**
[11:13] <hendaus> dager,  but i told u i move the file to another folder, :(
[11:13] <velko> razzorz: only the first user you created can do that. is this your first user?
[11:13] <mojojojo_> !vmware
[11:13] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[11:13] <dager> hendaus: move it back to where it was, then restart ktorrent
[11:13] <razzorz> first user?...
[11:13] <Jump86> is it possible to use ubuntu with an xbox 360 acting as a media center?
[11:14] <aev> Linuxnewbie756: i think ext3 is ' jounalling' making removal of lots of small bits quicker. Why you want ext2
[11:14] <simonsocial> i'm trying to install something and when i run configure i get "No package 'mono' found"
[11:14] <dager> hendaus: then, once you're done seeding, move it back to where you want it
[11:14] <velko> razzorz: when you install ubuntu it creates a user (razzorz ?) which is allowed to execute sudo
[11:14] <velko> razzorz: every other user you create is not allowed to do it (per default)
[11:15] <razzorz> This the only user..
[11:15] <aev> Linuxnewbie756: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[11:15] <joonr> Hi all. I am new to Ubuntu - how would I set up a VPN connection to another network from my v6.10 Desktop Ubuntu?
[11:15] <schwagner> Caplain, do you mean ipw2200?  the wireless card?
[11:15] <Linuxnewbie756> aev: because it doesn't use journalling, i don't wan't it, because it makes secure removal of files nearly imppossibble. unless you can tell me how to mount the partition as a ordered mode instead of pattern.
[11:15] <Linuxnewbie756> aev: that was to you
[11:15] <snama_m> hello
[11:15] <Caplain> schwagner, yeah
[11:15] <infernoGC> hola
[11:15] <aev> Linuxnewbie756:  and you call yourself a newbie ;)
[11:15] <hendaus> dager ok i maove it back to where it was, and it starts another tome downloading not seeding
[11:15] <razzorz> humm
[11:16] <Faugn> Linuxnewbie756: data=ordered, man mount
[11:16] <hderms> can anyone help me boot into windows
[11:16] <schwagner> Caplain, what's the problem?
[11:16] <kneeki> hderms: I can help you throw a PC out of a window.
[11:16] <Linuxnewbie756> aev: lol, never mind
[11:16] <Comrade-Sergei> i try to burn my feisty disc and i have a 700 mb blank cdr in my burner, but cd/dvd creator says i need to insert a disc with atleast 699 mb free wtf?
[11:16] <Caplain> schwagner, i can see my accesspoont with iwlist wlan0 scan but i cant join it
[11:16] <onexused> hderms: both Linux and Windows are installed correct?
[11:16] <hderms> yah onexused
[11:16] <hderms> and i ran fixboot on the windows partition in case that was the problem
[11:16] <hderms> but grub just spits out error still
[11:17] <schwagner> Caplain, what version of ubuntu are you running?  what graphical system? gnome?
[11:17] <onexused> hderms: what does grub.conf say under the Windows option?
[11:17] <Caplain> schwagner, dappeee, gnome
[11:18] <kneeki> onexused: where is the grub.conf file?
[11:18] <dager> hendaus: everything should be exactly how it was before you moved it.. like, everything should have the same name, same capitalization, same everything
[11:18] <georgy_> kneeki : /boot/grub/menu.list
[11:18] <hendaus> dager,  yes everything ok
[11:18] <Linuxnewbie756> Faugn: ok, i found out here about data_ordered, but i amusin fstab to mount the drive, how would i make it mount as data-ordered?
[11:19] <onexused> hneeki: /boot/grub/grub.conf
[11:19] <Comrade-Sergei> i got the feisty beta on a 1gb flash drive, how do i boot to it?
[11:19] <kneeki> Ah, thanks guys
[11:19] <schwagner> Caplain, have you tried installing NetworkManager?
[11:19] <onexused> opps, that's another linux.  it's menu.llst
[11:19] <Faugn> Linuxnewbie756: according to the man it's the default, you can add it in the option string
[11:20] <Linuxnewbie756> Faugn: i don't think it is defualt, and how would i add it?
[11:20] <Pete_B> hi. I'm used to Debian rather than ubuntu; I'm setting up Ubuntu for someone; which repository do you recommend for libdvdcss? in Debian I use debian-multimedia, does that work with Ubuntu too?
[11:20] <NewbieBaba> hey how can i disable Shift+Backspace, those combination annoying :/
[11:20] <Caplain> schwagner, doing that now...
[11:20] <Faugn> Linuxnewbie756: UUID=8b007521-db93-4455-b683-a3efc1e14c2b /media/hdd2     ext3    defaults,data=ordered        0       2
[11:20] <Comrade-Sergei> i have the feisty beta on a 1gb flash drive, how do i boot to it? and my bios has USB 2.0 for dos enabled?
[11:20] <bayziders> Are there any dock like apps for ubuntu?
[11:20] <raich> aev, onexused i plugged it behind the case
[11:20] <schwagner> Caplain, that seems to work fine for me, and i have the same card
[11:20] <velko> Comrade-Sergei: burn the image to cd or dvd and bott from it. i don't think you can boot from the flash without thinkering. but you may try to change the bios boot sequence and give it a shot
[11:21] <Leno> join python.no
[11:21] <Caplain> okay...
[11:21] <raich> aev, onexused in the plugs that are behind, not in front and nautilus promped propperly =p
[11:21] <schwagner> bayziders, try avant-window-navigator
[11:21] <Linuxnewbie756> Faugn: in my fstab, i have defaults,auto, and two 0's instead of a 0 and a 2
[11:21] <Caplain> schwagner, how do i access etwork manager?
[11:21] <onexused> raich: is there a /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 now?
[11:21] <bayziders> Is it a package?
[11:21] <Comrade-Sergei> velko i tried playing with the boot sequence and it says "boot failed"
[11:21] <georgy_> Pete_B: medibuntu : http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[11:21] <onexused> raich: : )
[11:21] <aev> raich: rofl, well done that, hope you can properly put stuff on it as well :)
[11:21] <Pete_B> Caplain: it should give a shortcut int he Notification Areas (beside the clock)
[11:21] <velko> Comrade-Sergei: so you can't for sure
[11:21] <Pete_B> georgy_: cheers
[11:21] <Faugn> Linuxnewbie756: just add it after auto, leave the rest, man fstab
[11:22] <Comrade-Sergei> velko why not?
[11:22] <velko> Comrade-Sergei: i don't know
[11:22] <Comrade-Sergei> wtf stfu then
[11:22] <raich> onexused, ya, /dev/sda  /dev/sdb
[11:22] <Linuxnewbie756> Faugn: so what does auto do, and what do the two numbers do?
[11:22] <justindm> I need a link that shows me step by step to setup my server as a router(so i use a switch for all my other pcs)
[11:22] <velko> Comrade-Sergei: very friendly, comrade
[11:22] <Faugn> Linuxnewbie756: RTFM ;)
[11:22] <Comrade-Sergei> lol
[11:22] <Linuxnewbie756> Faugn: lol
[11:22] <raich> aev, better wait until night... full moon could help a lot.
[11:22] <Comrade-Sergei> i have the feisty beta on a 1gb flash drive, how do i boot to it? and my bios has USB 2.0 for dos enabled?
[11:23] <schwagner> Caplain, install it with apt-get install network-manager, then run NetworkManager
[11:23] <schwagner> Caplain, it will show up in the notification area of the gnome toolbar
[11:23] <Pete_B> schwagner: does he not want network-manager-gnome?
[11:23] <aev> raich: hehe goodluck,  laters/gnight
[11:23] <CVirus> How can I mount my root as a read-only filesystem ?
[11:23] <schwagner> Pete_B, yes, he does, good call
[11:24] <schwagner> Caplain, install network-manager-gnome instead
[11:24] <Caplain> okay
[11:24] <Faugn> CVirus: why do you want to do that?
[11:24] <velko> CVirus: add "ro" to the options if fstab. but beware that some directories like /tmp and /var have to be writable
[11:25] <CVirus> Faugn: I want to fsck
[11:25] <Comrade-Sergei> lol
[11:25] <CVirus> velko: there is no way back if I did that
[11:25] <CVirus> velko: except for a liveCD
[11:25] <Faugn> CVirus: better to use a LiveCD
[11:25] <velko> CVirus: if you want to fsck use livecd
[11:25] <schwagner> bayziders, google it, there is a repository you have to add
[11:25] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i boot to a usb flash with the ISO for feisty on it?
[11:25] <Caplain> schwagner, no luck
[11:26] <Faugn> CVirus: mount -o ro,remount /
[11:26] <schwagner> Caplain, what's it doing?
[11:26] <ceaser> Is there any way to make the gnome panel span multiple monitors?
[11:26] <ceaser> If I'm using nvidia twinview
[11:26] <Pete_B> Caplain: in Debian at least, you also have to be in the 'netdev' group for network-manager to work, maybe you do in Ubuntu too
[11:27] <CVirus> Faugn: mount: / is busy
[11:27] <Caplain> schwagner, root@hicks:~# NetworkManager
[11:27] <Caplain> root@hicks:~#
[11:27] <NewbieBaba> hey
[11:27] <NewbieBaba> how can i disable Shift+Backspace
[11:27] <NewbieBaba> please anyone help me
[11:27] <NewbieBaba> i got used to use shift n backspace when i type something wrong
[11:27] <crdlb> bayziders, just so you know, you need a composite manager to use a-w-n
[11:28] <crdlb> NewbieBaba, join #ubuntu-effects
[11:28] <NewbieBaba> r u sure its coming with beryl?
[11:28] <NewbieBaba> so i can check beryl options
[11:28] <schwagner> Caplain, without being too preachy, it's dangerous to run as root, but that's its default behavior
[11:28] <Faugn> CVirus: you can use AltSysRq to force remounting all filesystem readonly
[11:28] <schwagner> Caplain, you should now have a new icon in your toolbar in the notification area
[11:28] <Faugn> if you really want to do tha
[11:29] <crdlb> NevroPus, it's an Xgl thing
[11:29] <Caplain> schwagner, yeah its there
[11:29] <crdlb> NewbieBaba, ^^
[11:29] <NewbieBaba> :p
[11:29] <schwagner> Caplain, click it, it should give you a list of available networks
[11:29] <Pete_B> schwagner: do you have the requirement of being in the 'netdev' group for network manager in ubuntu?
[11:30] <Caplain> schwagner, no go on that
[11:30] <schwagner> Pete_B, i don't think so
[11:30] <Caplain> groupd netdev doesnt exist
[11:31] <schwagner> Caplain, you might have to reboot to set everything up properly; i did
[11:31] <Caplain> rebooting....
[11:31] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i boot to a usb flash with the ISO for feisty on it?
[11:32] <Pete_B> Caplain: you run it with nm-appplet
[11:32] <Comrade-Sergei> i have the feisty beta on a 1gb flash drive, how do i boot to it? and my bios has USB 2.0 for dos enabled?
[11:32] <velko> !ask | Comrade-Sergei
[11:32] <ubotu> Comrade-Sergei: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:32] <chrismurf> When has the FF Release Candidate been pushed to?
[11:32] <schwagner> Pete_B, when i run NetworkManager, it seems to start that for me
[11:33] <Comrade-Sergei> velko i didnt ask to ask i just did like it said
[11:33] <Pete_B> schwagner: were you recommending running nm as root? cos if so you should check out joining the netdev group
[11:33] <Comrade-Sergei> dont abuse ubotu
[11:33] <Pete_B> schwagner: then NetworkManager it must also be :)
[11:33] <velko> Comrade-Sergei: do you think you will get any other answer? it does _not_ work
[11:34] <Comrade-Sergei> velko yes it does ive seen it done before
[11:34] <velko> Comrade-Sergei: not without thinkering
[11:34] <velko> Comrade-Sergei: not with the standard iso
[11:34] <saik0> I'm using a 2 disk raid 0 configuration on an 680i chipset, It's listed as 'stipe ok' when i use dmraid -r but i cant seem to activate it. Anybody know why?
[11:34] <Comrade-Sergei> velko then what iso do i need
[11:35] <schwagner> Pete_B, no, i was just pointing out the tired old line that logging in as root is dangerous
[11:36] <velko> Comrade-Sergei: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[11:36] <velko> Comrade-Sergei: the word you are looking for is "thank you"
[11:36] <Comrade-Sergei> ty velko
[11:37] <degus-se> Hi all, iam trying to get a self generated program (hello world!) to run in KDevelope C++, all i get is aclocal: not a command   error 127
[11:37] <onexused> I've been trying to use the alternate install CD of ubuntu 6.10 to upgrade my version of 5.10.  Every time I do it, I get an error saying that volumeid is trying to overwrite one of udev's files, and it refuses to continue.  What can I do about this?
[11:38] <lreis> hhreyjt555gggzzhjnmk,kj;p83568
[11:38] <richdurhm> hey guys is there way to make my deksotp seem smaller like in windows using 1280 by 1024 resolution?
[11:38] <Comrade-Sergei> usb bar thats a new one
[11:38] <lreis> hhdgksxdgy/;ncv,z
[11:38] <lreis> jhjgdkuiojsahnmcb,.bc,c
[11:38] <TomStrong> Hi peeps, does any one of you know a fast way to install x-world/x-vrml plugin in firefox ?
[11:38] <lreis> njdswwqN
[11:38] <cara> Hi all I'm having a problem, I installed lua and the dev packages and everytime I go to compile cegui which depends on lua it says that it can't find lua.h even though I see in /usr/include/lua50 the lua.pc shows
[11:39] <onexused> richdurhm: system>preferences>screen resolution
[11:39] <onexused> do any of the listed resolutions fit your needs?
[11:39] <schwagner> degus-se, i'm not a C++ developer, but my guess is that you don't have some dev packages installed, try libguile-dev
[11:39] <Faugn> cara: lua includes are in /usr/include/lua50 or 51 depending on the version
[11:40] <Faugn> cara: you can use 'lua-config --include'
[11:40] <cara> Faugn: yes I know,
[11:40] <cara> its showing the files are there but when I go to compile the compiler can't find the files
[11:40] <degus-se> schwaner: ill try that..
[11:40] <Faugn> cara: well, does the compilation line include this path?
[11:40] <cara> checking now
[11:42] <Caplain> schwagner, i have a new icon now but it says no network devices are present
[11:42] <neosb> thx now is workin'
[11:43] <Comrade_Sergei> velko can i use the feisty iso i got from the ubuntu site?
[11:43] <schwagner> Caplain, just for fun, do a 'lsmod |grep ipw' and make sure the ipw2200 module is listed
[11:43] <Caplain> schwagner, its ipn2220
[11:44] <Caplain> and im using ndiswrapper
[11:44] <onexused> When I try to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.10 using the alternate CD, I get an error saying the volumeid package is trying to overwrite /sbin/vol_id, which is a part of udev, and it refuses to continue. What can I do about it?
[11:44] <velko> Comrade_Sergei: i don't know. i don't use ubuntu. you don't really expect that you have conditioned me to help you with "stfu", do you?
[11:45] <Comrade_Sergei> velko then why are you in the ubuntu channel giving support
[11:45] <velko> Comrade_Sergei: why not?
[11:45] <Comrade_Sergei> you dont run it
[11:45] <Comrade_Sergei> w/e
[11:45] <onexused> many ubuntu things are generic Linux things...
[11:46] <schwagner> Caplain, that may be beyond my experience, but here's a link to check out: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=19517
[11:46] <schwagner> Caplain, it's written for SuSE, but the concepts should be the same
[11:47] <degus-se> hmm now it seems to compile, but new errors occur, "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169"
[11:47] <Caplain> schwagner, ill try it
[11:48] <onexused> Or, does anyone happen to know where I can go to get an answer? : )
[11:48] <cara> Faugn: everything checks out right
[11:48] <cara> this is why I don't understand why cegui doesn't find lua.h or lauxlib.h
[11:48] <PriceChild> onexused, Hey I know :)
[11:48] <PriceChild> onexused, Upgrading by missing versions is not supported by Ubuntu
[11:49] <PriceChild> onexused, You must upgrade from one distro to the next to get best results and any support
[11:49] <PriceChild> !upgrade onexused
[11:49] <PriceChild> !upgrade | onexused
[11:49] <ubotu> onexused: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:49] <onexused> PriceChild: does that mean I'm supposed to go 5.10>6.06>6.10, then?
[11:49] <PriceChild> onexused, So for example you need to go..... yes
[11:49] <andre> i hello room how do i get different pics on my desktop without changing them all, I would like 3 different ones but it changes them all
[11:49] <PriceChild> You got it :)
[11:49] <Faugn> cara: maybe a rogue -I before -I/usr/include/lua50 ?
[11:50] <onexused> PriceChild: but I have a 56k.. : (  Oh well, I'll borrow someone's DSL sometime.  Thanks.
[11:50] <PriceChild> onexused, Sorry to be bearer of bad news :)
[11:50] <PriceChild> onexused, try doing it overnight
[11:50] <PriceChild> onexused, and use the upgrade manager, not changing sources ;)
[11:52] <saik0> Why would a raid array that dmraid shows as ok and recongizes not be able to be activated. dmraid -vay shows no output either
[11:55] <cara> Faugn: nope
[11:55] <hflappy> is there a command i can do to strip numbers in an ip format from a .txt file?
[11:55] <Faugn> cara: well, no idea then...
[11:57] <EXetoC> Hi. I forgot how to create a folder in root from the terminal :p
[11:57] <Faugn> EXetoC: sudo mkdir?
[11:58] <hflappy> EXetoC: sudo mkdir
[11:58] <EXetoC> ah right. thanks
[11:58] <georgy_> EXetoC : sudo mkdir
[11:58] <kto_zdes> hi
[11:58] <_phantom_> is there a hyperterminal like program for linux, which lets you send raw data to programs running locally on a particular port?
[11:58] <harry_> I'm having a problem with strange error messages trying to untar a file. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16022/
[11:58] <preaction> _phantom_: telnet
[11:59] <Faugn> _phantom_: netcat
[11:59] <EXetoC> thx for helping gotta go have fun ;)
[12:00] <jjholt> _phantom_: minicom to interface with serial ports
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