| maxamillion | ? | 12:24 |
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| maxamillion | TheSheep: random question i have always wondered ... is your desktop in polish or english? | 12:25 |
| TheSheep | maxamillion: english | 12:27 |
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| TheSheep | maxamillion: translating programming-related stuff to Polish makes little sense anyways | 12:27 |
| maxamillion | TheSheep: fair enough | 12:28 |
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| Arkh | I need some help for installing pdo on ubuntu edgy | 12:29 |
| Arkh | :p | 12:29 |
| TheSheep | Arkh: pdo? | 12:29 |
| Arkh | php data objects | 12:30 |
| TheSheep | Google says: "PDO is the premier hydrocarbon exploration and production company in the Sultanate of Oman" | 12:30 |
| TheSheep | php.net says: "If you're running a PHP 5.1 release, PDO and PDO_SQLITE is included in the distribution; " | 12:31 |
| TheSheep | !info php | 12:31 |
| ubotu | Package php does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas | 12:31 |
| TheSheep | !info apache-php | 12:31 |
| ubotu | Package apache-php does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas | 12:31 |
| TheSheep | !find php | 12:31 |
| ubotu | Found: dh-make-php, egroupware-phpbrain, egroupware-phpsysinfo, gphpedit, htcheck-php (and 198 others) | 12:31 |
| TheSheep | argh | 12:31 |
| TheSheep | !info libapache2-mod-php5 | 12:32 |
| ubotu | libapache2-mod-php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3 (edgy), package size 2263 kB, installed size 5148 kB | 12:32 |
| neozen | lol | 12:32 |
| neozen | meep | 12:32 |
| TheSheep | Arkh: that should be enough :) | 12:32 |
| Arkh | root@acerus:/home/arkham# dpkg -l | grep php | 12:33 |
| Arkh | ii libapache2-mod-php5 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3 | 12:33 |
| Arkh | nah :( | 12:33 |
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| Arkh | pdo is not enabled by default on edgy's php | 12:34 |
| Arkh | <.< | 12:34 |
| TheSheep | Arkh: maybe you need to install php5-mysql or something | 12:35 |
| Arkh | i did install everything I could think of | 12:35 |
| Arkh | http://rafb.net/p/narkvF31.html | 12:36 |
| TheSheep | php-db - PHP PEAR Database Abstraction Layer | 12:36 |
| TheSheep | maybe you miss this? (wild guess) | 12:36 |
| Arkh | I tried that but it doesn't seem to help so I removed it | 12:37 |
| Arkh | :( | 12:37 |
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| somerville32 | Hey emdash | 12:42 |
| Merchelo | gg, installing the fglrx for mt ATI card did the trick, now it's much better | 12:48 |
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| maxamillion | gotta run | 12:53 |
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| Arkh | wow TheSheep I solved :P | 01:48 |
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| ratshell | IF YOU NEED HELP WITH UBUNTU COME TO THIS CHANNEL #ubuntuhelp, we will help you with all your UBUNTU NEEDS. AND THE ADMINISTRATORS WON"T WATCH YOU | 02:40 |
| Arkh | lol? | 02:40 |
| ratshell | I keep getting banned cause I made this room. And I am just letting people no about it. | 02:40 |
| Arkh | oh | 02:40 |
| Arkh | good luck | 02:40 |
| ratshell | So that is why i made this channel. I am tired of the administrators control stuff like this. | 02:41 |
| Arkh | why are you getting banned? | 02:41 |
| ratshell | They claim I am spamming, but I don't know. That is why I stay in that channel | 02:41 |
| ratshell | Tty there if you wanna come | 02:41 |
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| Will^Draven | o.O | 02:45 |
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| jbs123 | Hello all | 02:51 |
| jbs123 | I have a quick question and maybe someone can answer | 02:51 |
| Merchelo | eh, did anyone else get a dcc file request? | 02:52 |
| jbs123 | If anyone is here. | 02:52 |
| rici | yeah | 02:52 |
| Arkh | me :p | 02:52 |
| Naughtyboy | yepp..I got one | 02:52 |
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| aidanr | yup | 02:52 |
| Qew | yeah, got one from _3oo3 | 02:52 |
| Naughtyboy | what is it..? | 02:53 |
| aidanr | cancel it | 02:53 |
| jbs123 | I am running Xubuntu from USB stick, and I was wondering what do I need to change to have it boot to command prompt instead of window. Also is there away to auto run a script i wrote? | 02:53 |
| crimsun | invoke the script from /etc/rc.local | 02:54 |
| Qew | _3oo3 is in #pcbsd and denying... | 02:55 |
| Arkh | lol | 02:56 |
| Arkh | he is a liar? | 02:56 |
| somerville32 | It is Chris Punches | 02:56 |
| Qew | well, yeah... unless his machine is hacked ;) | 02:56 |
| somerville32 | The same guy that claimed he hacked himself | 02:57 |
| rici | it's hard to take nicks like _3oo3 seriously | 02:57 |
| unikon | he just pm'd me to | 02:57 |
| Arkh | the same guy threathened me to hack my pc :o | 02:57 |
| Qew | haha | 02:57 |
| Arkh | yepp, he said something like check your /var/log/sshd | 02:58 |
| Arkh | but I don'thave sshd enabled nor installed | 02:58 |
| Arkh | lol | 02:58 |
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| Merchelo | i was tempted to accept it, and see what it was | 03:00 |
| unikon | whats up with chris punches | 03:00 |
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| unikon | hes in #nsa to | 03:01 |
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| jbs123 | How do I stop xfce from booting? I wish to go straight to prompt | 03:05 |
| unikon | qe whatd he say on #pcbsd | 03:06 |
| Qew | well, he apologised to me, but I said that he should really come here and do that, because I wasn't the only one. He then said he didn't care enough, so I rejected his apology. | 03:06 |
| Qew | anyway, best not dwell on bad rubbish. Better things to talk about here. ;) | 03:08 |
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| unikon | true | 03:10 |
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| unikon | i just wish they'd fix the distro and make an Xubuntu-lite | 03:11 |
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| Merchelo | heh, it's ubuntu-lite is it not? | 03:12 |
| unikon | id like to see even a lighter version | 03:12 |
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| unikon | absolute bare minimum them add to as seen fit | 03:13 |
| Merchelo | i just install xubuntu, and remove all the crap i don't need | 03:18 |
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| Merchelo | well, crap to me, golden eggs to other people. | 03:19 |
| kalikiana | Whatever the crap is, leave xfce :D | 03:20 |
| Merchelo | i did, but i did install fluxbox, just for old times sake. | 03:20 |
| kalikiana | I suppose if you like fuxbox and can't live with xfce that is okay. But if you prefer xfce I'm even more happy. ;) | 03:22 |
| jbs124 | update-rc.d test.sh defaults - will this run my script as su on start up ? | 03:22 |
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| Naughtyboy | for thoose who didn't know...the kernel and the new nvidia drivers seemse to work now.. | 04:05 |
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| Arianna | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2457649#post2457649 | 05:05 |
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| Pumpernickel | Arianna: File a bug report, including any error messages you get. | 05:19 |
| Pumpernickel | !bug | 05:19 |
| ubotu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots | 05:19 |
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| xjkx | what differs xubuntu of other buntus besides the DE? | 09:54 |
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| Merchelo | it's more lightweight, which means it would run on older machines, more smoothly. | 10:04 |
| Merchelo | !xubuntu | 10:04 |
| ubotu | xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels | 10:04 |
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| xjkx | Merchelo how much memory i need to run xubuntu? | 10:08 |
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| darrend_laptop | xjkx: I think 128MB is generally the recommended minimum, but some are running it with less | 10:09 |
| Merchelo | 128-192 for the live CD, otherwise, 64mb could handle it | 10:09 |
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| xjkx | thanks, i frankly didnt find on website the minimum recommended :P how about partition? the minimum needed? | 10:12 |
| Merchelo | 1.5 | 10:12 |
| Merchelo | gb | 10:12 |
| xjkx | :D | 10:13 |
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| xjkx | i love the fact i could run it with 128 or 64, but i hate the website doesn't tell that so i'd show they people :> | 10:35 |
| xjkx | the people* | 10:35 |
| xjkx | almost sleeping while typing | 10:35 |
| xjkx | oh i found http://www.xubuntu.org/get | 10:37 |
| xjkx | xD | 10:37 |
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| dac | what is xubuntu? | 11:33 |
| crimsun | xubuntu.org | 11:33 |
| darrend_laptop | !xubuntu | 11:34 |
| ubotu | xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels | 11:34 |
| dac | ok | 11:34 |
| dac | I've tried all 4 ubuntu tonight, and i did not know these even existed,neat. | 11:37 |
| dac | i'll go away and check out xubuntu.org, thanks | 11:38 |
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| ceil420 | http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9592/weirdfontdm8.png <=- can someone help get my fonts sorted? i don't know why the alt+f2 thing and firefox have separate fonts ;x | 11:44 |
| TheSheep | firefox handles its fonts separately from the system | 11:45 |
| ceil420 | i certainly didn't change it's fonts myself :o but i'll poke around | 11:46 |
| ceil420 | what about the "run program" thing? the font you see is one i tried before settling on the one that you see in the xchat userlist | 11:46 |
| TheSheep | ceil420: check your .gtkrc and .gtkrc-2.0 files | 11:46 |
| TheSheep | ceil420: also, killing the xfrun process might help | 11:47 |
| ceil420 | is xfrun the name of that little box? | 11:47 |
| TheSheep | yes | 11:47 |
| ceil420 | and where's .gtkrc/-2.0? | 11:47 |
| TheSheep | xfrun4 actually | 11:48 |
| ceil420 | ah ok | 11:48 |
| TheSheep | .gtkrc is in your home directory -- it starts with a period, so it's hidden by default, enable showing hidden files to see it | 11:48 |
| ceil420 | yeah the font in xfrun4 is back to normal now o/ | 11:49 |
| ceil420 | i only got .gksu.lock and .gtk-bookmarks for hidden files started with g in ~/ :x | 11:49 |
| ceil420 | starting* | 11:49 |
| TheSheep | that's ok | 11:50 |
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| TheSheep | restarting firefox would fix it too | 11:51 |
| TheSheep | probably | 11:51 |
| ceil420 | tried that; it didn't :x | 11:51 |
| TheSheep | but you must have something broken if the apps didn't update their fonts automagically | 11:51 |
| TheSheep | dbus maybe | 11:51 |
| ceil420 | xchat updated fine | 11:51 |
| TheSheep | weird | 11:51 |
| ceil420 | so did BitTornado and Evince | 11:51 |
| ceil420 | and the settings GUI itself; firefox and xfrun are the only two that acted weird :x | 11:52 |
| TheSheep | do you have free space in your home? | 11:52 |
| ceil420 | my space is limited? :o | 11:53 |
| TheSheep | of course, the disks are not made of rubber | 11:53 |
| ceil420 | heh 12gb free | 11:54 |
| ceil420 | thought for some reason you were on about a limit in space in ~/ specifically :x like Xgb max or sumn | 11:54 |
| TheSheep | ceil420: well, I don't know how you installed xubuntu, you might have eveything on a single partition, or on several separate ones | 11:55 |
| ceil420 | Xubuntu's takin' up it's own 20gb hd | 11:56 |
| ceil420 | no partitions | 11:56 |
| TheSheep | no ideas then | 11:58 |
| ceil420 | thanks for your time and fixin' xfrun :x | 11:59 |
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| wheels3572 | Can anyone tell me how to set the Terminal Window | 12:47 |
| wheels3572 | what's the command | 12:47 |
| wheels3572 | x-terminal | 12:47 |
| wheels3572 | or what | 12:47 |
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| darrend_laptop | "set it"? what do you mean? | 12:50 |
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| wheels3572 | darrend_laptop, instead of always clicking on applications/system and terminal I wanna set a shortcut key | 12:50 |
| darrend_laptop | ah. The command is just "Terminal" | 12:51 |
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| wheels3572 | ty Darren | 12:55 |
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| Catoptromancy | is "./configure" and then "make" somehow different in x?ubuntu | 02:52 |
| Catoptromancy | I follow install instructions exactly and when I try to "make" says it cant find soemthing | 02:52 |
| Catoptromancy | ./configure seems to work | 02:53 |
| grazie | Catoptromancy: the configure, make and make install is bog standard linux | 02:57 |
| Catoptromancy | hmmm | 02:57 |
| Catoptromancy | i know | 02:57 |
| Catoptromancy | i must be doing something wrong | 02:57 |
| grazie | or maybe something wrong with the package | 02:57 |
| Catoptromancy | I dont think ive gotten anything installed native besides freecell and chess | 02:58 |
| Catoptromancy | wine works fine though | 02:58 |
| Catoptromancy | I assume "make" works in home user directorys | 02:59 |
| grazie | yeah | 02:59 |
| Catoptromancy | wine installed itself somewhere not in home and it works nearly perfect | 03:00 |
| Catoptromancy | heh ive even watched vid tutorials that pretty much did what i did | 03:00 |
| Catoptromancy | but with different programs | 03:00 |
| Catoptromancy | hmm | 03:00 |
| grazie | what package and what error? configure only really checks all is ok for building. it could easily have an error | 03:02 |
| Catoptromancy | really all packages | 03:04 |
| Catoptromancy | blender, prboom, eternity, ioquake3, openarena | 03:05 |
| Catoptromancy | I actually think I got ioquake3 installed | 03:05 |
| Catoptromancy | but i was launching it wrong | 03:05 |
| grazie | then you probably are doing something not quite right then | 03:05 |
| Catoptromancy | ill figure out | 03:06 |
| Catoptromancy | got a few saved pages to go through | 03:06 |
| Catoptromancy | but it seems like I was doing stuff right | 03:06 |
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| hyper_ch | grazie: you're here? | 03:39 |
| grazie | yes | 03:39 |
| hyper_ch | do you know how I can setup rsync the way that it has less priority than e.g. Firefox? | 03:40 |
| grazie | not exactly....but using nice in some way | 03:42 |
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| h3sp4wn | hyper_ch: Do you mean in terms of bandwidth usage or on the machine ? | 03:42 |
| hyper_ch | h3sp4wn: in terms of bandwidth usage but on the machine | 03:43 |
| hyper_ch | hmm, that probably isn't possible right? | 03:43 |
| h3sp4wn | Its not easy but it is possible | 03:43 |
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| hyper_ch | grazie: process priority would be nice | 03:44 |
| hyper_ch | I mean "nice" | 03:44 |
| h3sp4wn | nice or renice that is quite easy | 03:44 |
| hyper_ch | what about bandwidth? | 03:44 |
| hyper_ch | or is there a way I can allocate max. bandwidth to rsync? | 03:45 |
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| h3sp4wn | You have to use iptables | 03:45 |
| hyper_ch | eeks | 03:45 |
| hyper_ch | h3sp4wn: you scare me :) | 03:45 |
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| h3sp4wn | Are you using rsync over ssh | 03:45 |
| h3sp4wn | if so that makes it even more difficult | 03:46 |
| Merchelo | !java | 03:46 |
| ubotu | To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre | 03:46 |
| grazie | oh, didn't realise you use iptables to limit bandwidth | 03:46 |
| h3sp4wn | You have to use tc - and layer 7 filters | 03:46 |
| grazie | could use* | 03:46 |
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| hyper_ch | h3sp4wn: whatever that is :) | 03:46 |
| h3sp4wn | but there is no l7 filter for rync that I can see | 03:47 |
| hyper_ch | ok... :) thx for trying :) | 03:47 |
| h3sp4wn | http://www.linux.com/howtos/Traffic-Control-HOWTO/index.shtml | 03:47 |
| grazie | h3sp4wn: did you get to try Arch? | 03:48 |
| h3sp4wn | grazie: Not yet | 03:48 |
| h3sp4wn | hyper_ch: the problem is how to match rsync - you cannot use port (because otherwise ssh would also be penalised) packet size maybe | 03:54 |
| hyper_ch | h3sp4wn: well, won't matter by ssh - I only have a limited upstream, 400kbit/s and I would like to say rsync can use up to 380kbit/s hence I'd still have 20kbit for surfing | 03:55 |
| hyper_ch | I normally don't use file transfer through ssh | 03:56 |
| hyper_ch | except for online editing of php files | 03:56 |
| h3sp4wn | rsync is insecure | 03:56 |
| h3sp4wn | if its not through ssh | 03:56 |
| hyper_ch | h3sp4wn: yes, I use it through ssh - but I don't see a reason why I should not limit ssh or why it would be bad | 03:57 |
| h3sp4wn | Well for me the most important thing is ssh and dns - hence they go into the priority class | 03:58 |
| h3sp4wn | but if you are using rsync + ssh then that would put rsync into the priority class when you want it in a lower one | 03:58 |
| hyper_ch | why that? | 03:58 |
| hyper_ch | why do you have ssh in a priority class? | 03:58 |
| h3sp4wn | nothing worse than a laggy ssh connection | 03:59 |
| hyper_ch | ^^ | 03:59 |
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| h3sp4wn | http://pastebin.ca/442808 | 04:01 |
| h3sp4wn | that is the mangle table I am using | 04:01 |
| hyper_ch | is there a way to limit incoming ssh? | 04:02 |
| hyper_ch | and I have no clue what this all means :) | 04:03 |
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| hyper_ch | well, I have to do some work now anyway :) | 04:04 |
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| h3sp4wn | you need to read and understand traffic control | 04:07 |
| h3sp4wn | and spend ages (I mean ages) messing with it to get it right - there is stuff like wondershaper but it sucks | 04:07 |
| amsmith42hs | Keyboard shortcut to lock an xfce desktop? | 04:08 |
| h3sp4wn | control alt delete | 04:08 |
| h3sp4wn | (if xlockmore or xlockmore-gl is installed anyway) | 04:09 |
| amsmith42hs | Thank you much | 04:09 |
| h3sp4wn | well for me it works anyway | 04:09 |
| amsmith42hs | That does the trick. | 04:09 |
| amsmith42hs | I forget the name of the network connection icon panel program... | 04:14 |
| highvoltage | network manager? | 04:14 |
| amsmith42hs | Eh, I don't think it is in the repositories. It works like a Windows one. | 04:15 |
| amsmith42hs | Oh, well. | 04:15 |
| amsmith42hs | But if network manager will do the same thing, I'll use it. I just don't know how to do that. | 04:16 |
| amsmith42hs | Nevermind. | 04:17 |
| amsmith42hs | Did it. | 04:17 |
| amsmith42hs | :P | 04:17 |
| amsmith42hs | Oh, except what do I use for "network device"? IP? MAC? encap? | 04:18 |
| amsmith42hs | Nevermind again... | 04:19 |
| amsmith42hs | lol | 04:19 |
| amsmith42hs | I'm smarter than I thought :P | 04:19 |
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| BrianBoyko | Hello - I have an interesting problem. | 04:31 |
| BrianBoyko | I'd like to reformat my low-end laptop and load Xubuntu but when I do so I find I no longer have access to WiFi - and thus, no more access to the Internet. It detects the hardware alright but I don't have an app which can scan for networks installed. I'd rather not connect to an ethernet line if I can avoid it. Is there any way to get something like "wifi radar" on Xubuntu from the LiveCD or by putting a package file on a burned CD? | 04:33 |
| TheSheep | there is a command line utility for that, I think | 04:35 |
| TheSheep | !wifi | BrianBoyko | 04:36 |
| ubotu | BrianBoyko: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 04:36 |
| BrianBoyko | TheSheep: Sorry, but that's not really answering my question. WiFi works out of the gate. The problem is I'm not sure how to configure it. | 04:37 |
| BrianBoyko | To connect to my network. | 04:37 |
| BrianBoyko | Because I lack things such as my SSID. | 04:38 |
| TheSheep | BrianBoyko: try: iwconfig eth0 ssid any | 04:39 |
| TheSheep | BrianBoyko: replace eth0 with your actual wireless interface | 04:39 |
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| TheSheep | essid | 04:39 |
| TheSheep | sorry | 04:39 |
| TheSheep | iwconfig eth0 essid any | 04:39 |
| kalikiana | Check that out, you crazy coders: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/09/bloggers-block-3-dreaming-in-browser.html | 04:42 |
| BrianBoyko | Thanks. | 04:43 |
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| newz2000 | who is the xubuntu webmaster? | 04:49 |
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| TheSheep | newz2000: I think there are several people with access to the web page | 04:55 |
| TheSheep | newz2000: best write to xubuntu-devel mailing list | 04:55 |
| newz2000 | ah. I'm the Ubuntu.com webmaster, wanted to help out by coordinating efforts for release | 04:55 |
| TheSheep | newz2000: that would be awesome | 04:56 |
| newz2000 | are you guys shooting for the same release date as Ubuntu? | 04:56 |
| TheSheep | newz2000: I guess so, possibly with a small delay | 04:56 |
| TheSheep | (I'm not a dev) | 04:56 |
| newz2000 | ah, ok. Thanks. | 04:57 |
| TheSheep | newz2000: if you want to get someone alive, I think you should check in several hours from now | 04:57 |
| newz2000 | ok. I'll try your suggestion of sending to -devel | 04:57 |
| TheSheep | newz2000: they are mostly from US | 04:57 |
| newz2000 | what, they're not up yet? Lazy bums. | 04:58 |
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| === newz2000 is from the US too. :-) | ||
| === maxamillion is as well | ||
| TheSheep | maxamillion: who's the chief webmaster of xubuntu.org? not you, by any chance? ;) | 04:59 |
| TheSheep | maxamillion: newz2000 came to help us | 04:59 |
| maxamillion | TheSheep: that would be cody ... he's the only one with shell access | 04:59 |
| newz2000 | maxamillion: I'm the ubuntu.com webmater. I just wanted to try and coordinate our efforts for release (if that would be helpful) | 05:00 |
| === highvoltage has shell access too, fwiw | ||
| TheSheep | maxamillion: btw, I have the drupal theme, will do the recoloring today ;) | 05:01 |
| maxamillion | newz2000: oh, awesome ... we are actually attempting to re-theme our drupal setup and ... oh, nvm TheSheep is on it | 05:01 |
| maxamillion | TheSheep: you are the man | 05:01 |
| maxamillion | highvoltage: hey jonathan | 05:01 |
| newz2000 | :-) | 05:01 |
| TheSheep | maxamillion: not really, I was supposed to do that a week ago | 05:01 |
| highvoltage | hey maxamillion | 05:01 |
| maxamillion | TheSheep: oh ... but didn't you just recently get the theme code anyways? | 05:02 |
| newz2000 | TheSheep: I've created a drupal module for updating the list of mirrors from launchpad (they have a mirror prober). Would that help? | 05:02 |
| maxamillion | newz2000: that would be awesome... as of now, i update by hand | 05:02 |
| TheSheep | newz2000: I have no experience with the guts of drupal, I'm a css guy | 05:03 |
| newz2000 | maxamillion: do you know for sure if https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+cdmirrors-rss is aplicable for you? | 05:03 |
| TheSheep | say, shoudn't we move to #xubuntu-devel or something? | 05:03 |
| newz2000 | sure | 05:03 |
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| concept10 | Does xubuntu-desktop use GDM by default? | 05:13 |
| maxamillion | concept10: yes | 05:13 |
| concept10 | maxamillion, thanks. | 05:14 |
| maxamillion | concept10: no prob | 05:14 |
| concept10 | My system has some conflict/error. When booting normally, the GDM locks up. (It shows Xubuntu GDM login) When I boot single user mode and run GDM, I have no problems. (it shows normal ubuntu GDM login) Any suggestions? | 05:16 |
| maxamillion | concept10: that's strange .... what version of ubuntu you running? | 05:17 |
| concept10 | maxamillion, feisty | 05:17 |
| concept10 | maxamillion, see, I have mostly run ubuntu-desktop over the years, but recently switched/installed to xubuntu-desktop. People with fresh systems may not see this problem. | 05:18 |
| concept10 | This just occurred with the update to GDM 2.18.1 I think | 05:18 |
| maxamillion | concept10: hmmm... i might suggest dropping to command line and doing a package update and upgrade, its possible that there was a bug and they have submitted a fix ... but i honestly wouldn't know why it would cause an issue like that | 05:18 |
| maxamillion | ah, you just recently updated? | 05:18 |
| concept10 | maxamillion, I have all updates | 05:19 |
| maxamillion | concept10: hmmm... ok | 05:19 |
| concept10 | Im almost thinking that a normal boot uses xfwm4, but I could be wrong | 05:19 |
| maxamillion | well, gdm is independent of xfwm4 or metacity | 05:20 |
| concept10 | yeah, that was a brain fart on my part | 05:22 |
| maxamillion | no worries | 05:22 |
| concept10 | I need to figure out how to debug the gdmlogin since it just freezes | 05:23 |
| maxamillion | but yeah ... i am trying to think why gdm would bork on the xubuntu theme | 05:23 |
| concept10 | yeah! Maybe its just the theme | 05:23 |
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| concept10 | I dont understand though, I have ubuntu regular theme set as default, and it still uses the xubuntu theme | 05:24 |
| concept10 | this should mean that my GDM config file isnt being used | 05:25 |
| maxamillion | concept10: yeah, there is a command you need to run to set it back ... gimme a minute and i will find it | 05:25 |
| concept10 | at least on normal boot | 05:25 |
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| cyzie | 7.04 is feisty fawn ? | 05:35 |
| Ramla | Yes | 05:35 |
| cyzie | pl | 05:35 |
| cyzie | i have xubuntu 6.10 | 05:35 |
| cyzie | can i upgrade to 7.04 without any problem ? | 05:36 |
| Ramla | It is likely. But I'd wait for the final | 05:37 |
| maxamillion | cyzie: you can upgrade, the package freeze happened last night (iirc) and the official release of final images will be in 4 or 5 days ... upgrading now shouldn't cause you problems | 05:38 |
| maxamillion | cyzie: i've been running feisty for a few months without issue | 05:38 |
| cyzie | i see. thanks | 05:38 |
| maxamillion | cyzie: np | 05:38 |
| cyzie | but i didnt have much time to go into details | 05:38 |
| cyzie | cuz i use fedora core 6 , debian and xubuntu | 05:38 |
| maxamillion | cyzie: fair enough .... a little variety never hurt anyone :) | 05:39 |
| maxamillion | concept10: do you have gnome installed? | 05:39 |
| cyzie | yea.. got confused sometime.... :-s | 05:39 |
| concept10 | maxamillion, not the entire ubuntu-desktop, but most components | 05:39 |
| maxamillion | concept10: well, gnome? | 05:39 |
| Naughtyboy | guys..a question about autostarted services..?? | 05:39 |
| maxamillion | Naughtyboy: shoot | 05:39 |
| maxamillion | concept10: do you have gnome installed? | 05:40 |
| concept10 | maxamillion, ubuntu-desktop is gnome, yes | 05:40 |
| maxamillion | concept10: rgr | 05:40 |
| === grazie rgr = roger = yes | ||
| Naughtyboy | anacron, atd, klogd, sysklogd and portmap....are they essential to my system..? | 05:40 |
| maxamillion | concept10: anyhoo, when you login in the recovery mode can you get to a gnome desktop? | 05:41 |
| concept10 | maxamillion, I don't have the entire contents of the ubuntu-desktop metapackages, but I have pretty much every other gnome library | 05:41 |
| maxamillion | grazie: thank you ... i always forget that isn't general notation ;) | 05:41 |
| concept10 | maxamillion, yes.. | 05:41 |
| grazie | maxamillion: i think you're the only person I know that uses it on irc | 05:41 |
| concept10 | maxamillion, I should mention that most of the time, I like to run my desktop this way. | 05:41 |
| maxamillion | concept10: hmmm... actually, my idea won't work because i don't think the setting would carry over .... | 05:42 |
| Naughtyboy | maxamillion, ....anacron, atd, klogd, sysklogd and portmap....are they essential to my system..? | 05:42 |
| maxamillion | grazie: probably .... i picked it up chatting on aim with gamer friends | 05:42 |
| maxamillion | Naughtyboy: maybe not portmap ... but the others i believe are | 05:42 |
| concept10 | maxamillion, I like to use gnome panels, with xfdesktop and thunar, its kind of a mix between the two | 05:43 |
| maxamillion | Naughtyboy: no wait ... i think you might need portmap too | 05:43 |
| maxamillion | concept10: fair enough ... | 05:43 |
| maxamillion | ah! ... i have class and need to run | 05:43 |
| concept10 | maxamillion, thanks anyway | 05:43 |
| Naughtyboy | maxamillion, _ OK..thnx for the help | 05:43 |
| h3sp4wn | You don't need portmap unless you are running an nfs server | 05:43 |
| maxamillion | concept10: no prob, sorry i have to go ... someone else might be able to help | 05:43 |
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| h3sp4wn | (even with client you can use -o nolock) | 05:44 |
| maxamillion | Naughtyboy: np | 05:44 |
| max_at_class | bbl | 05:44 |
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| dooglus | how does one change the keyboard layout in xfce? | 05:45 |
| grazie | dooglus: country key mapping? | 05:46 |
| grazie | dooglus: or keyboard type? | 05:46 |
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| dooglus | grazie: country | 05:51 |
| dooglus | grazie: I want US not UK | 05:51 |
| grazie | dooglus: easiest way is "sudo setxkbmap us" in a terminal | 05:52 |
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| dooglus | grazie: will the 'stick' between reboots? | 05:52 |
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| grazie | dooglus: yes | 05:53 |
| dooglus | grazie: thanks. that seems to have worked. | 05:53 |
| === grazie usually everyone gets US whether they want it or not | ||
| grazie | np | 05:54 |
| dooglus | I think I selected UK a long time ago when I was using GNOME, maybe. Then I switched to using other computers, all with the US layout, and now I'm back on this old laptop I can't use UK any more. | 06:04 |
| dooglus | The # and ~ and | keys are all in different places | 06:04 |
| dooglus | and \ | 06:04 |
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| === grazie knows from experience that " and @ are switched too | ||
| grazie | hi cellofellow ... sort your system out? | 06:07 |
| grazie | sorted* | 06:07 |
| cellofellow | almost | 06:08 |
| cellofellow | I forgot those little lines I have to add to xorg.conf to disable compositing so that GL works. | 06:09 |
| grazie | glad to hear that. hope the almost isn't too much hassle | 06:09 |
| cellofellow | well, I now need to rack my brain for all of those programs I installed before, particularly third party ones. | 06:10 |
| cellofellow | non-repo I mean. | 06:10 |
| === grazie likes rsync backups at times like that | ||
| === cellofellow would like some space to backup to | ||
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| concept10 | does xubuntu use something other than gdmgreeter? | 06:24 |
| Arkh | what is gdmgreeter? | 06:24 |
| concept10 | Arkh, shows the login box and menu | 06:25 |
| Arkh | oh gdm | 06:25 |
| Arkh | do you want to change the theme or the proram? | 06:25 |
| concept10 | Arkh, no, trying to debug.. | 06:26 |
| Arkh | oh I see | 06:26 |
| concept10 | Arkh, the Xubuntu greeter locks on my system | 06:26 |
| concept10 | (freezes) | 06:26 |
| Arkh | just logging in or switching user? | 06:27 |
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| concept10 | Logging in | 06:28 |
| Arkh | Xubuntu Feisty? | 06:28 |
| concept10 | Arkh, yes | 06:30 |
| Arkh | Bug description [edit] | 06:30 |
| Arkh | Binary package hint: gdm | 06:30 |
| Arkh | If I log in as a second user and then try to log out, it hangs the system. I've got Intel graphic chip and use Beryl: | 06:30 |
| Arkh | Yes, I tried with xfwm4 and had the same result. Cheers. | 06:31 |
| Arkh | concept10, what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? | 06:32 |
| concept10 | Arkh, no errors | 06:32 |
| Arkh | did you try to log in without gdm | 06:33 |
| h3sp4wn | Is the release candidate of feisty out yet ? | 06:33 |
| Arkh | and dist-upgrade the system? | 06:33 |
| concept10 | Arkh, you mean startx? | 06:33 |
| Arkh | or just Ctrl + Alt +F2 | 06:33 |
| Arkh | h3sp4wn, it really doesn't seem so | 06:33 |
| h3sp4wn | Arkh: I wonder if they just release in 2 days or whatever without one or not | 06:34 |
| Arkh | Latest News | 06:34 |
| Arkh | * Xubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) beta released | 06:34 |
| Arkh | * Xubuntu Feisty Fawn - Pre-beta testing | 06:34 |
| Arkh | * Herd 5 Released | 06:34 |
| Arkh | the site has a banner about the coutdown | 06:34 |
| Arkh | they say in 4 days.. who knows.. | 06:34 |
| grazie | h3sp4wn: max_at_class said earlier the release is now frozen so an update will give you the release unless something goes bad | 06:35 |
| Merchelo | what's herd? | 06:35 |
| grazie | !herd | 06:35 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about herd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 06:35 |
| Arkh | a previous beta version | 06:35 |
| concept10 | time to drag out meld | 06:35 |
| Merchelo | ahh ok | 06:35 |
| Arkh | alpha* | 06:36 |
| h3sp4wn | grazie: It would be alot easier if the ubuntu release schedule was closer to the fedora one | 06:36 |
| h3sp4wn | interestingly enough the hard locks I was having have gone away since updating to a clean 2.6.21-rc6 | 06:38 |
| Arkh | compiling vanillas or from repo? | 06:39 |
| h3sp4wn | straight from kernel.org | 06:39 |
| Arkh | so do I usually | 06:39 |
| Arkh | but I tend to get the latest "stable" version | 06:39 |
| concept10 | meld is bad ass for diffs | 06:39 |
| h3sp4wn | Arkh: I usually use the latest snapshot - and other bits I am interested in from -mm or wherever (Like RSDL at the moment) | 06:41 |
| Arkh | :) | 06:41 |
| h3sp4wn | But to be honest I would have expected ubuntu's kernel to be alot more stable than this one | 06:42 |
| Arkh | RDSL? | 06:43 |
| Arkh | that's a new word :p | 06:43 |
| h3sp4wn | http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/staircase-deadline/ | 06:44 |
| Arkh | oh, Rotating Staircase Deadline Scheduler | 06:45 |
| concept10 | I personally think this release is going to be worse than dapper->edgy | 06:45 |
| concept10 | unless they delay | 06:45 |
| Arkh | better performance h3sp4wn ? | 06:45 |
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| h3sp4wn | Arkh: Its strange how it works but it seems to work well | 06:46 |
| concept10 | h3sp4wn, do you use this on your embedded kernels also? | 06:47 |
| h3sp4wn | concept10: I have got it on one to test | 06:47 |
| h3sp4wn | Arkh: I thought there was no way deadline would ever be good for a desktop | 06:47 |
| concept10 | This is the best aspect of GNU/Linux in my opinion. The ability and diversity of different methods of kernel configs | 06:48 |
| h3sp4wn | concept10: Running with 2.6.19.7 | 06:48 |
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| concept10 | h3sp4wn, I try to stay abreast of the kernel changes but some of the stuff flies over my head like crows :) | 06:49 |
| concept10 | h3sp4wn, ive been watching a bunch of free CS lectures learning all about kernels though. Its amazing what you can learn for free on the net these days. | 06:51 |
| === grazie understanding the kernel ain't easy | ||
| h3sp4wn | understanding some parts is not impossible though | 06:52 |
| h3sp4wn | I only use ck's patches though because what he wants is system to be like is exactly how I want mine | 06:53 |
| h3sp4wn | keep it responsive under whatever load | 06:53 |
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| concept10 | I personally don't understand how people even begin to grok most of this stuff. Im thinking that it will take at least a year of lurking and a mostly CS education to even begin contributing to the kernel. (not the janitorial stuff) | 06:55 |
| h3sp4wn | ck is a doctor by trade not a programmer so it is possible | 06:59 |
| concept10 | h3sp4wn, do you have any idea what this big gnome announcement is supposed to be? | 07:00 |
| grazie | if ck is a doctor then he also isn't stupid | 07:01 |
| concept10 | right | 07:01 |
| concept10 | speaking of doctors, friggin google video has a video of an autopsy.. couldnt watch it :) | 07:02 |
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| h3sp4wn | concept10: First I have heard of it | 07:07 |
| h3sp4wn | concept10: I haven't even looked at gnome since .14 (as soon as it got mono I haven't used it since) | 07:07 |
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| === grazie gnome has mono! struth...I didn't know that | ||
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| grazie | grazie: gave up on gnome when it got fat | 07:09 |
| concept10 | h3sp4wn, you can run gnome without any mono | 07:09 |
| concept10 | I have not one single mono binary on my system | 07:09 |
| h3sp4wn | concept10: its a dependancy of some part of it | 07:10 |
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| concept10 | h3sp4wn, tomboy/beagle - if you roll with the default ubuntu-desktop | 07:11 |
| h3sp4wn | I don't think any interpretted stuff belongs as part of a desktop | 07:12 |
| concept10 | h3sp4wn, python either? | 07:13 |
| h3sp4wn | concept10: none - no perl / python / ruby anything | 07:13 |
| h3sp4wn | I don't like the way the apps feel | 07:13 |
| concept10 | h3sp4wn, I guess I don't mind python for desktop, but any others no. Actually I like when small apps are made with python.. That's easy hackin' | 07:14 |
| grazie | I wouldn't have thought having most linux distros without python was very easy? | 07:16 |
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| h3sp4wn | my laptop has just python python-minimal python2.4 python2.4-minimal (debian) | 07:17 |
| h3sp4wn | only reason I have those is for alsa-utils | 07:18 |
| h3sp4wn | thats fine though because its not a gui app on my desktop | 07:18 |
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| concept10 | ubutnu _loves_ python on the desktop. I like the Exaile music app. I get to do all sorts of silly additions to it because of python | 07:20 |
| Arkh | I like exaile too | 07:20 |
| Arkh | too bad it doesn't have proxy support :( | 07:21 |
| h3sp4wn | I just use amarok | 07:21 |
| h3sp4wn | or moc | 07:21 |
| Arkh | lol music on console :p | 07:21 |
| concept10 | h3sp4wn, its also interesting to read about Pardus Linux. They have re-written damn near everything in python.. even the boot scripts! | 07:22 |
| BFTD | how do you pronounce "Amarok"? | 07:22 |
| TheSheep | "I'm a rock" | 07:22 |
| BFTD | ah | 07:22 |
| BFTD | ok | 07:22 |
| TheSheep | kiddin | 07:22 |
| TheSheep | no idea | 07:22 |
| === grazie thinks TheSheep is pretty close | ||
| BFTD | yeah | 07:23 |
| BFTD | same here | 07:23 |
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| concept10 | h3sp4wn, this is a good read (if your into init): http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/projeler/comar/SpeedingUpLinuxWithPardus.html | 07:30 |
| concept10 | h3sp4wn, damn, the bootchart shows .17 secs on a P4 2.8 ghz system. Thats about a minute faster than my system (slower drive though) | 07:37 |
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| h3sp4wn | I think mine boots in about 15 seconds (after the kernel bit finishes) | 08:00 |
| h3sp4wn | but as it only boots up once a days its not a huge problem | 08:00 |
| h3sp4wn | an init system using compiled lisp might be interesting | 08:03 |
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| kalabaw | question guys: where is the option to 'not show the menu icons' ? | 08:37 |
| TheSheep | kalabaw: you need to put it in your .gtkrc-2.0 by hand | 08:39 |
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| TheSheep | kalabaw: gtk-menu-images = 0 | 08:40 |
| kalabaw | will try that man. thanks. | 08:40 |
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| kalabaw | TheSheep: thanks man! worked great. | 08:44 |
| TheSheep | kalabaw: you can also put it into a theme | 08:45 |
| kalabaw | i have another question though, is it possible to show the 'Home' and other mounted device icons in XFCE's desktop? | 08:46 |
| TheSheep | kalabaw: yes, copy the file /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfdesktop/xfdesktoprc into your ~/.config/xfce4/xfdesktop and edit it to change the settings | 08:46 |
| TheSheep | kalabaw: or just edit it where it is if you want to change it system-wide | 08:47 |
| TheSheep | sorry, not xfdesktop, desktop alone | 08:47 |
| kalabaw | TheSheep:will try that one man. thanks. just trying to grasp the XFCE interface. switching from gnome. thanks. | 08:48 |
| TheSheep | kalabaw: The Fesity Fawn has this also in gui, in settings->desktop settings, second tab | 08:48 |
| TheSheep | kalabaw: but in Edgy you have to use an editor | 08:49 |
| kalabaw | thanks. will keep that in mind. | 08:49 |
| kalabaw | still in edgy. waiting for feisty.. | 08:50 |
| TheSheep | soon :) | 08:50 |
| kalabaw | really sooon :) | 08:50 |
| kalabaw | TheSheep: cant find the xfdesktoprc on that directory. | 08:54 |
| kalabaw | all i can see is a bunch of menu.xml files and xfce-registered-categories files... | 08:55 |
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| TheSheep | kalabaw: try mine: http://wiki.sheep.art.pl/Sandbox | 08:57 |
| kalabaw | ayt..thanks.. | 08:58 |
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| AgentScorpion | I am installing xubuntu 10 from the alternate iso image which has been burned to a cdrom. 3 Errors have occured: zlib failed to install, it failed to configure the base system and it failed to find a suitable kernel | 09:51 |
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| maku | hello? | 09:52 |
| grazie | AgentScorpion: did you md5sum check your download? | 09:52 |
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| AgentScorpion | no i will do now | 09:53 |
| maku | i'm a brand new user to linux and am trying to install xubuntu as my only OS on an older computer, but must be doing something wrong. | 09:53 |
| maku | after trying multiple ISO install disks, I finally had success with the "alternate" install disk. | 09:54 |
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| grazie | AgentScorpion: hang on... you might as well run check cd now you've aleady done a burn? | 09:54 |
| AgentScorpion | yeah could do that | 09:55 |
| kalikiana | maku, So is it working now? It's perfectly fine that for example the live cd fails. | 09:55 |
| grazie | maku: good news ... welcome to the club | 09:55 |
| maku | I don't really know what to do with the hard drive file system, but I believe i did LVM. after it said it was installed and do remove CD and restart, it just stops on the loading screen. | 09:55 |
| maku | I have 2 Harddrives in my box, one is 40gb and other is 8gb. | 09:55 |
| maku | I don't know how to make them fat32. | 09:55 |
| maku | I thought the OS installation would do that. | 09:56 |
| maku | I had windows XP on there, but don't want it at all. | 09:56 |
| maku | any suggestions on getting just xubuntu as the OS? | 09:56 |
| grazie | maku: why do you to make them fat32? linux can't install on that file system | 09:57 |
| kalikiana | Why would you want fat32 - except for parallel use of windows? | 09:57 |
| maku | i thought linux needed fat32....will xubuntu installation format the hard disk how it needs to be, or do I need to do that beforehand? | 09:57 |
| grazie | maku: fat32 is ok to share data with Windows, but ext2/3 is better | 09:57 |
| maku | all the forumns i had been reading said to change from ntfs to fat32, so that's why i thought it needed to be fat32. | 09:58 |
| maku | but I don't want to run windows at all...just linux. | 09:58 |
| grazie | maku: the installer has three different install routes | 09:59 |
| AgentScorpion | grazie: ./pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.17/linux-image-2.6.17-10-386_2.6.17-10.33_i386.db failed check :-( | 09:59 |
| AgentScorpion | ill check the iso file | 10:00 |
| grazie | AgentScorpion: the do the md5sum check. burning slowly (x4 or less) often results in better burns | 10:00 |
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| maku | grazie: which install route will setup everything how i need it automatically? | 10:01 |
| grazie | maku: you can 1. use the whole disk. 2. use the largest free space on the disk 3. configure the disk how you want | 10:01 |
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| grazie | maku: option 1 is the easiest route and everything will be done for you | 10:02 |
| maku | should I try to "reinstall" using the alternate disk again? | 10:02 |
| grazie | maku: no don't reinstall. just do a new install | 10:03 |
| maku | should I use the alternate disk? | 10:03 |
| grazie | maku: you much ram and how big is the disk? | 10:04 |
| maku | 128mb ram, 40gb hard drive. | 10:04 |
| maku | 700 mhz pentium 3 processor. | 10:04 |
| grazie | yes use the alternate. disk is bigger than I expected :) | 10:05 |
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| maku | i have another hard drive that is 8 gb inside computer...should I tell the install to do anything with that? | 10:05 |
| grazie | maku: it is up to you. it's certainly not needed | 10:06 |
| maku | grazie: thanks so much. I'll go get it started...hopefully it will work this time. thanks again!! | 10:06 |
| grazie | maku: if the drive isn't ancient I would use the 8gb for the linux install and use as much of the 40gb disk as I needed for data and backups | 10:07 |
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| T`2 | hi, my time is 1hr behind ... i think its the DST bug.. i'm on PST .. anyone know how to fix this? | 10:15 |
| grazie | T`2: do you dual boot? | 10:28 |
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| T`2 | grazie, no | 10:34 |
| T`2 | grazie, just linux | 10:34 |
| grazie | T`2: I don't know anything about a DST bug, so can't offer any suggestions | 10:36 |
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| T`2 | grazie, ok thanks | 10:41 |
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| ciro314 | hello | 10:54 |
| ciro314 | im running xubuntu on a pIII 500 mhz and 64 mb ram and i would like to know some tips to run it faster. i have disabled gnome on startup and thumbnails. could anyone help me? | 10:57 |
| Arkh | install more ram | 10:58 |
| Arkh | 64 are too low.. | 10:58 |
| Arkh | at least for a graphical interface | 10:58 |
| ciro314 | it works fine. but a bit slow | 10:58 |
| grazie | ciro314: if you don't need printer daemons, you can remove cupsys and hplip | 10:59 |
| Arkh | cups ? | 10:59 |
| ciro314 | i need | 10:59 |
| ciro314 | what about installing fluxbox. would be easy? | 11:00 |
| grazie | ciro314: I installed fluxbox with breezy ubuntu on an old Mac and it made a big difference. The difference will not be a great awhen compared to xfce though. Installing fluxbox is very easy. | 11:03 |
| grazie | as great* | 11:03 |
| ciro314 | could you paste a command to install fluxbox? | 11:04 |
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| ciro314 | sudo aptitude install fluxbox rox-filler ... | 11:04 |
| ciro314 | i tried to install fluxbox but a i can not do anything on screen | 11:05 |
| ciro314 | and i can not run programs | 11:05 |
| grazie | i did that a year or so ago so you as know as much as me | 11:05 |
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| dooglus | grazie: I rebooted, and my keyboard has switched back to UK setting... | 11:21 |
| grazie | dooglus: oh? I'm surprise...you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "gb" to "us" | 11:23 |
| grazie | dooglus: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 11:23 |
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| dooglus | grazie: what about the virtual consoles? | 11:30 |
| grazie | dooglus: what about them? | 11:30 |
| dooglus | grazie: they're gb too | 11:31 |
| grazie | dooglus: that sounds like a bug (unfortunately) | 11:31 |
| dooglus | grazie: it does? | 11:32 |
| dooglus | grazie: you wouldn't expect virtual console settings to be affected by xorg.conf, surely? | 11:32 |
| grazie | dooglus: what country code do you get if you don't start X? | 11:32 |
| grazie | dooglus: real not virtual console? | 11:33 |
| dooglus | grazie: I don't have any real consoles attached to this computer | 11:34 |
| dooglus | grazie: but all 6 virtual consoles are in 'gb' layout | 11:34 |
| grazie | dooglus: no. I meant if you boot without X, you could boot in recovery mode to check | 11:35 |
| dooglus | grazie: I always boot without X | 11:36 |
| dooglus | grazie: and I get 'gb' layout | 11:37 |
| dooglus | grazie: I expect I asked for it once a long time ago, but I forget how | 11:37 |
| grazie | dooglus: you're not using the X at all? If so setxkbmode shouldn't have done anything | 11:38 |
| dooglus | grazie: I use X most of the time | 11:38 |
| dooglus | grazie: but I never boot into it | 11:39 |
| dooglus | grazie: I start gdm when I want it running | 11:39 |
| grazie | dooglus: i did this recently on debian...lemme think | 11:39 |
| dooglus | grazie: I don't often physically sit at this machine, and it doesn't have a lot of RAM, so when it's acting as a server, it doesn't run X | 11:39 |
| Arkh | dooglus, I think loadkeys should you | 11:44 |
| Arkh | man loadkeys I don't remeber exactly how it works | 11:44 |
| Arkh | should help you* | 11:44 |
| grazie | could be....really can't remember | 11:48 |
| dooglus | 'install-keymap' seems to be it | 11:50 |
| dooglus | thanks to the 'loadkeys' lead from Arkh | 11:50 |
| Arkh | :) | 11:50 |
| Arkh | it is loadkeys on gentoo | 11:50 |
| Arkh | I had to install a gentoo server some weeks ago :p | 11:50 |
| dooglus | so "sudo install-keymap us" | 11:50 |
| dooglus | it's loadkeys on debian too - /etc/init.d/keymap.sh uses loadkeys to load /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz | 11:51 |
| grazie | dooglus: I think loadkeys works on debian (abd hence ubuntu) too# | 11:51 |
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| dooglus | grazie: sure, but I'd have to do it each time I booted | 11:51 |
| grazie | dooglus: I see | 11:51 |
| dooglus | install-keymap writes to boottime.kmap.gz, so it persists between boots | 11:51 |
| dooglus | thanks for the help | 11:51 |
| grazie | dooglus: so "install-keymap" for console and "setxkbmap" for X...will try to remember | 11:52 |
| dooglus | now on to more challenging problems: why is my code crashing on this machine when it's exactly the same code and the same compilers as on my other machine :( | 11:52 |
| grazie | we need some more clues | 11:53 |
| dooglus | grazie: yes. except 'setxkbmap' doesn't 'stick' between boots - you're better off editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 11:53 |
| grazie | that's crap | 11:53 |
| grazie | makes setxkbmap pretty useless | 11:54 |
| h3sp4wn | I just usually edit xorg.conf anyway | 11:54 |
| dooglus | grazie: another clue: "Segmentation fault" | 11:54 |
| Arkh | ... | 11:55 |
| grazie | well I usually check the ram first on seg faults | 11:55 |
| === grazie but seg faults can be a bugger to track | ||
| dooglus | grazie: I don't think it's the RAM - I think it's more to do with my dicking about with the build environment | 11:56 |
| grazie | dooglus: does dicking mean you can't undo your changes? | 11:58 |
| dooglus | grazie: I made the changes months ago and can't remember what exactly I did | 12:00 |
| dooglus | I know I made some symlinks in /usr/local/lib back into the build directory - and I've removed those | 12:00 |
| dooglus | and the source code is all under source control, so I can see that that's not been changed locally | 12:01 |
| dooglus | I think the problem may be that I have an old 'stable' package on the same program installed | 12:01 |
| grazie | Too tricky for me I'm afraid | 12:02 |
| dooglus | I installed the distro's official package - that puts a bunch of libs into /usr/lib/... | 12:02 |
| dooglus | then I built a newer version from source as well and installed it | 12:02 |
| dooglus | that puts newer versions of the libs into /usr/local/lib/... | 12:02 |
| dooglus | so I've got 2 copies of each library - and I'm guessing it's maybe using the wrong one | 12:03 |
| grazie | not too hard rename and check? | 12:03 |
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| dooglus | I'm just uninstalling the old packages | 12:04 |
| grazie | time for bed...nite all | 12:05 |
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| dooglus | nite | 12:06 |
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