[12:24] ? [12:25] TheSheep: random question i have always wondered ... is your desktop in polish or english? [12:27] maxamillion: english === Arkh [n=Arkh@62.152.122.140] has joined #xubuntu [12:27] maxamillion: translating programming-related stuff to Polish makes little sense anyways [12:28] TheSheep: fair enough === TheSheep pins the kernel version to avoid problems with reinstalling nvidia [12:29] I need some help for installing pdo on ubuntu edgy [12:29] :p [12:29] Arkh: pdo? [12:30] php data objects [12:30] Google says: "PDO is the premier hydrocarbon exploration and production company in the Sultanate of Oman" [12:31] php.net says: "If you're running a PHP 5.1 release, PDO and PDO_SQLITE is included in the distribution; " [12:31] !info php [12:31] Package php does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas [12:31] !info apache-php [12:31] Package apache-php does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas [12:31] !find php [12:31] Found: dh-make-php, egroupware-phpbrain, egroupware-phpsysinfo, gphpedit, htcheck-php (and 198 others) [12:31] argh [12:32] !info libapache2-mod-php5 [12:32] libapache2-mod-php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3 (edgy), package size 2263 kB, installed size 5148 kB [12:32] lol [12:32] meep [12:32] Arkh: that should be enough :) [12:33] root@acerus:/home/arkham# dpkg -l | grep php [12:33] ii libapache2-mod-php5 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3 [12:33] nah :( === cga [n=cga@213-140-6-101.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #xubuntu [12:34] pdo is not enabled by default on edgy's php [12:34] <.< [12:35] Arkh: maybe you need to install php5-mysql or something [12:35] i did install everything I could think of [12:36] http://rafb.net/p/narkvF31.html [12:36] php-db - PHP PEAR Database Abstraction Layer [12:36] maybe you miss this? (wild guess) [12:37] I tried that but it doesn't seem to help so I removed it [12:37] :( === emdash [i=dotsony@estrella.triplehelix.org] has joined #xubuntu === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [12:42] Hey emdash [12:48] gg, installing the fglrx for mt ATI card did the trick, now it's much better === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #xubuntu [12:53] gotta run === aidanr [n=aidanr@83.147.134.5] has joined #xubuntu === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === toupar [n=toupar@222.20.226.220] has joined #xubuntu === toupar [n=toupar@222.20.226.220] has left #xubuntu [] === somerville32 [n=ubuntu@CPE0016b6e69a08-CM001404556626.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:48] wow TheSheep I solved :P === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] === ratshell [n=ratshell@74-128-163-120.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:40] IF YOU NEED HELP WITH UBUNTU COME TO THIS CHANNEL #ubuntuhelp, we will help you with all your UBUNTU NEEDS. AND THE ADMINISTRATORS WON"T WATCH YOU [02:40] lol? [02:40] I keep getting banned cause I made this room. And I am just letting people no about it. [02:40] oh [02:40] good luck [02:41] So that is why i made this channel. I am tired of the administrators control stuff like this. [02:41] why are you getting banned? [02:41] They claim I am spamming, but I don't know. That is why I stay in that channel [02:41] Tty there if you wanna come === ratshell [n=ratshell@74-128-163-120.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === _3oo3 [i=0@nicholas-applebee.roaming.usm.maine.edu] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p3160-ipbf1007marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu [02:45] o.O === mode/#xubuntu [+o Seveas] by ChanServ === _3oo3 [i=0@nicholas-applebee.roaming.usm.maine.edu] has left #xubuntu [requested] === mode/#xubuntu [+b *!*@nicholas-applebee.roaming.usm.maine.edu] by Seveas === jbs123 [n=ubuntu@ip72-205-57-114.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:51] Hello all [02:51] I have a quick question and maybe someone can answer [02:52] eh, did anyone else get a dcc file request? [02:52] If anyone is here. [02:52] yeah [02:52] me :p [02:52] yepp..I got one === the_gamm [i=1468@ctech.smccme.edu] has joined #xubuntu [02:52] yup [02:52] yeah, got one from _3oo3 [02:53] what is it..? [02:53] cancel it [02:53] I am running Xubuntu from USB stick, and I was wondering what do I need to change to have it boot to command prompt instead of window. Also is there away to auto run a script i wrote? [02:54] invoke the script from /etc/rc.local [02:55] _3oo3 is in #pcbsd and denying... [02:56] lol [02:56] he is a liar? [02:56] It is Chris Punches [02:56] well, yeah... unless his machine is hacked ;) [02:57] The same guy that claimed he hacked himself [02:57] it's hard to take nicks like _3oo3 seriously [02:57] he just pm'd me to [02:57] the same guy threathened me to hack my pc :o [02:57] haha [02:58] yepp, he said something like check your /var/log/sshd [02:58] but I don'thave sshd enabled nor installed [02:58] lol === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu [03:00] i was tempted to accept it, and see what it was [03:00] whats up with chris punches === Brylie [n=brylie@CPE-75-81-108-73.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:01] hes in #nsa to === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:05] How do I stop xfce from booting? I wish to go straight to prompt [03:06] qe whatd he say on #pcbsd [03:06] well, he apologised to me, but I said that he should really come here and do that, because I wasn't the only one. He then said he didn't care enough, so I rejected his apology. [03:08] anyway, best not dwell on bad rubbish. Better things to talk about here. ;) === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] [03:10] true === m-m5 [n=m@212.98.155.154] has joined #xubuntu === m-m5 [n=m@212.98.155.154] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:11] i just wish they'd fix the distro and make an Xubuntu-lite === jbs123 [n=ubuntu@ip72-205-57-114.dc.dc.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] [03:12] heh, it's ubuntu-lite is it not? [03:12] id like to see even a lighter version === m-m5 [n=m@212.98.155.154] has joined #xubuntu === m-m5 [n=m@212.98.155.154] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.111.57] has joined #xubuntu [03:13] absolute bare minimum them add to as seen fit [03:18] i just install xubuntu, and remove all the crap i don't need === jbs124 [n=jbs123@ip72-205-57-114.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === rex_binary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [03:19] well, crap to me, golden eggs to other people. [03:20] Whatever the crap is, leave xfce :D [03:20] i did, but i did install fluxbox, just for old times sake. [03:22] I suppose if you like fuxbox and can't live with xfce that is okay. But if you prefer xfce I'm even more happy. ;) [03:22] update-rc.d test.sh defaults - will this run my script as su on start up ? === crdlb [n=crdlb@pool-70-104-177-62.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Lsi [n=lassi@host-212-149-206-76.kpylaajakaista.net] has joined #xubuntu === darren1 [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Naughtyboy [n=Naughtyb@135.217.95.91.static.ter-s.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:05] for thoose who didn't know...the kernel and the new nvidia drivers seemse to work now.. === Naughtyboy [n=Naughtyb@135.217.95.91.static.ter-s.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #xubuntu === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:05] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2457649#post2457649 === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-220-136.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:19] Arianna: File a bug report, including any error messages you get. 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[10:04] !xubuntu [10:04] xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@upcoguildford.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:08] Merchelo how much memory i need to run xubuntu? === grumpymo1e [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [10:09] xjkx: I think 128MB is generally the recommended minimum, but some are running it with less [10:09] 128-192 for the live CD, otherwise, 64mb could handle it === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.27.38] has joined #xubuntu [10:12] thanks, i frankly didnt find on website the minimum recommended :P how about partition? the minimum needed? [10:12] 1.5 [10:12] gb [10:13] :D === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === mdib [n=grcrosby@d216-232-173-250.bchsia.telus.net] has left #xubuntu [] === camer0ff [n=crew@ppp6-46.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:35] i love the fact i could run it with 128 or 64, but i hate the website doesn't tell that so i'd show they people :> [10:35] the people* [10:35] almost sleeping while typing [10:37] oh i found http://www.xubuntu.org/get [10:37] xD === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === Gazza [n=Gary@user-514dee9a.l4.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === dac [n=y4ruh@tx-76-6-81-157.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:33] what is xubuntu? [11:33] xubuntu.org [11:34] !xubuntu [11:34] xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels [11:34] ok [11:37] I've tried all 4 ubuntu tonight, and i did not know these even existed,neat. [11:38] i'll go away and check out xubuntu.org, thanks === ceil420 [n=Ceil@71-11-245-60.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === kurtVon [n=wire@81-174-14-165.f5.ngi.it] has joined #xubuntu [11:44] http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9592/weirdfontdm8.png <=- can someone help get my fonts sorted? i don't know why the alt+f2 thing and firefox have separate fonts ;x [11:45] firefox handles its fonts separately from the system [11:46] i certainly didn't change it's fonts myself :o but i'll poke around [11:46] what about the "run program" thing? the font you see is one i tried before settling on the one that you see in the xchat userlist [11:46] ceil420: check your .gtkrc and .gtkrc-2.0 files [11:47] ceil420: also, killing the xfrun process might help [11:47] is xfrun the name of that little box? [11:47] yes [11:47] and where's .gtkrc/-2.0? [11:48] xfrun4 actually [11:48] ah ok [11:48] .gtkrc is in your home directory -- it starts with a period, so it's hidden by default, enable showing hidden files to see it [11:49] yeah the font in xfrun4 is back to normal now o/ [11:49] i only got .gksu.lock and .gtk-bookmarks for hidden files started with g in ~/ :x [11:49] starting* [11:50] that's ok === esc_on_grml [n=esc@i59F762F3.versanet.de] has left #xubuntu [] [11:51] restarting firefox would fix it too [11:51] probably [11:51] tried that; it didn't :x [11:51] but you must have something broken if the apps didn't update their fonts automagically [11:51] dbus maybe [11:51] xchat updated fine [11:51] weird [11:51] so did BitTornado and Evince [11:52] and the settings GUI itself; firefox and xfrun are the only two that acted weird :x [11:52] do you have free space in your home? [11:53] my space is limited? :o [11:53] of course, the disks are not made of rubber [11:54] heh 12gb free [11:54] thought for some reason you were on about a limit in space in ~/ specifically :x like Xgb max or sumn [11:55] ceil420: well, I don't know how you installed xubuntu, you might have eveything on a single partition, or on several separate ones [11:56] Xubuntu's takin' up it's own 20gb hd [11:56] no partitions [11:58] no ideas then [11:59] thanks for your time and fixin' xfrun :x === meborc [n=meborc@enedhcp14.ene.ttu.ee] has joined #xubuntu === qiuhou [n=alex@i59F7688D.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p3160-ipbf1007marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-69-50-54-6.pivot.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:47] Can anyone tell me how to set the Terminal Window [12:47] what's the command [12:47] x-terminal [12:47] or what === kernando [n=rgrea@d154-5-136-116.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:50] "set it"? what do you mean? === kestaz [n=kestaz@88.118.219.3] has joined #xubuntu [12:50] darrend_laptop, instead of always clicking on applications/system and terminal I wanna set a shortcut key [12:51] ah. The command is just "Terminal" === sn0 [n=sno@unaffiliated/sn0] has joined #xubuntu [12:55] ty Darren === brasko [n=bob@ip70-181-32-198.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === brasko [n=bob@ip70-181-32-198.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Qew [n=qew@82-69-126-225.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === albert [n=albert@e176006058.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Catoptro@fl-71-1-246-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === T`2 [i=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu [02:52] is "./configure" and then "make" somehow different in x?ubuntu [02:52] I follow install instructions exactly and when I try to "make" says it cant find soemthing [02:53] ./configure seems to work [02:57] Catoptromancy: the configure, make and make install is bog standard linux [02:57] hmmm [02:57] i know [02:57] i must be doing something wrong [02:57] or maybe something wrong with the package [02:58] I dont think ive gotten anything installed native besides freecell and chess [02:58] wine works fine though [02:59] I assume "make" works in home user directorys [02:59] yeah [03:00] wine installed itself somewhere not in home and it works nearly perfect [03:00] heh ive even watched vid tutorials that pretty much did what i did [03:00] but with different programs [03:00] hmm [03:02] what package and what error? configure only really checks all is ok for building. it could easily have an error [03:04] really all packages [03:05] blender, prboom, eternity, ioquake3, openarena [03:05] I actually think I got ioquake3 installed [03:05] but i was launching it wrong [03:05] then you probably are doing something not quite right then [03:06] ill figure out [03:06] got a few saved pages to go through [03:06] but it seems like I was doing stuff right === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p3160-ipbf1007marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5cc54.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.111.57] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.111.57] has left #xubuntu [] === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@upcoguildford.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:39] grazie: you're here? [03:39] yes [03:40] do you know how I can setup rsync the way that it has less priority than e.g. Firefox? [03:42] not exactly....but using nice in some way === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-118-83.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [03:42] hyper_ch: Do you mean in terms of bandwidth usage or on the machine ? [03:43] h3sp4wn: in terms of bandwidth usage but on the machine [03:43] hmm, that probably isn't possible right? [03:43] Its not easy but it is possible === grazie was thinking terms of process priority [03:44] grazie: process priority would be nice [03:44] I mean "nice" [03:44] nice or renice that is quite easy [03:44] what about bandwidth? [03:45] or is there a way I can allocate max. bandwidth to rsync? === amsmith42hs [n=adams@p248n30.ruraltel.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:45] You have to use iptables [03:45] eeks [03:45] h3sp4wn: you scare me :) === KillaloT [n=KillaloT@0x503e2397.arcnxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #xubuntu === KillaloT [n=KillaloT@0x503e2397.arcnxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has left #xubuntu [] [03:45] Are you using rsync over ssh [03:46] if so that makes it even more difficult [03:46] !java [03:46] To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre [03:46] oh, didn't realise you use iptables to limit bandwidth [03:46] You have to use tc - and layer 7 filters [03:46] could use* === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p3160-ipbf1007marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu [03:46] h3sp4wn: whatever that is :) [03:47] but there is no l7 filter for rync that I can see [03:47] ok... :) thx for trying :) [03:47] http://www.linux.com/howtos/Traffic-Control-HOWTO/index.shtml [03:48] h3sp4wn: did you get to try Arch? [03:48] grazie: Not yet [03:54] hyper_ch: the problem is how to match rsync - you cannot use port (because otherwise ssh would also be penalised) packet size maybe [03:55] h3sp4wn: well, won't matter by ssh - I only have a limited upstream, 400kbit/s and I would like to say rsync can use up to 380kbit/s hence I'd still have 20kbit for surfing [03:56] I normally don't use file transfer through ssh [03:56] except for online editing of php files [03:56] rsync is insecure [03:56] if its not through ssh [03:57] h3sp4wn: yes, I use it through ssh - but I don't see a reason why I should not limit ssh or why it would be bad [03:58] Well for me the most important thing is ssh and dns - hence they go into the priority class [03:58] but if you are using rsync + ssh then that would put rsync into the priority class when you want it in a lower one [03:58] why that? [03:58] why do you have ssh in a priority class? [03:59] nothing worse than a laggy ssh connection [03:59] ^^ === MagicFab [n=MagicFab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu [04:01] http://pastebin.ca/442808 [04:01] that is the mangle table I am using [04:02] is there a way to limit incoming ssh? [04:03] and I have no clue what this all means :) === PatrickWst [n=Patrick@ANice-251-1-79-129.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [04:04] well, I have to do some work now anyway :) === Naughtyboy [n=Naughtyb@135.217.95.91.static.ter-s.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:07] you need to read and understand traffic control [04:07] and spend ages (I mean ages) messing with it to get it right - there is stuff like wondershaper but it sucks [04:08] Keyboard shortcut to lock an xfce desktop? [04:08] control alt delete [04:09] (if xlockmore or xlockmore-gl is installed anyway) [04:09] Thank you much [04:09] well for me it works anyway [04:09] That does the trick. [04:14] I forget the name of the network connection icon panel program... [04:14] network manager? [04:15] Eh, I don't think it is in the repositories. It works like a Windows one. [04:15] Oh, well. [04:16] But if network manager will do the same thing, I'll use it. I just don't know how to do that. [04:17] Nevermind. [04:17] Did it. [04:17] :P [04:18] Oh, except what do I use for "network device"? IP? MAC? encap? [04:19] Nevermind again... [04:19] lol [04:19] I'm smarter than I thought :P === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-154-3.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jcampbel@157.199.22.99] has joined #xubuntu === BrianBoyko [n=bboyko@mail.netqos.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:31] Hello - I have an interesting problem. [04:33] I'd like to reformat my low-end laptop and load Xubuntu but when I do so I find I no longer have access to WiFi - and thus, no more access to the Internet. It detects the hardware alright but I don't have an app which can scan for networks installed. I'd rather not connect to an ethernet line if I can avoid it. Is there any way to get something like "wifi radar" on Xubuntu from the LiveCD or by putting a package file on a burned CD? [04:35] there is a command line utility for that, I think [04:36] !wifi | BrianBoyko [04:36] BrianBoyko: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [04:37] TheSheep: Sorry, but that's not really answering my question. WiFi works out of the gate. The problem is I'm not sure how to configure it. [04:37] To connect to my network. [04:38] Because I lack things such as my SSID. [04:39] BrianBoyko: try: iwconfig eth0 ssid any [04:39] BrianBoyko: replace eth0 with your actual wireless interface === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@upcoguildford.plus.com] has left #xubuntu [] [04:39] essid [04:39] sorry [04:39] iwconfig eth0 essid any [04:42] Check that out, you crazy coders: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/09/bloggers-block-3-dreaming-in-browser.html [04:43] Thanks. === BrianBoyko [n=bboyko@mail.netqos.com] has left #xubuntu [] === Catoptromancy [n=Catoptro@fl-71-1-246-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === newz2000 [n=matt@unaffiliated/newz2000] has joined #xubuntu [04:49] who is the xubuntu webmaster? === Grem [n=Grem@212.13.49.67] has joined #xubuntu [04:55] newz2000: I think there are several people with access to the web page [04:55] newz2000: best write to xubuntu-devel mailing list [04:55] ah. I'm the Ubuntu.com webmaster, wanted to help out by coordinating efforts for release [04:56] newz2000: that would be awesome [04:56] are you guys shooting for the same release date as Ubuntu? [04:56] newz2000: I guess so, possibly with a small delay [04:56] (I'm not a dev) [04:57] ah, ok. Thanks. [04:57] newz2000: if you want to get someone alive, I think you should check in several hours from now [04:57] ok. I'll try your suggestion of sending to -devel [04:57] newz2000: they are mostly from US [04:58] what, they're not up yet? Lazy bums. === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === newz2000 is from the US too. :-) === maxamillion is as well [04:59] maxamillion: who's the chief webmaster of xubuntu.org? not you, by any chance? ;) [04:59] maxamillion: newz2000 came to help us [04:59] TheSheep: that would be cody ... he's the only one with shell access [05:00] maxamillion: I'm the ubuntu.com webmater. I just wanted to try and coordinate our efforts for release (if that would be helpful) === highvoltage has shell access too, fwiw [05:01] maxamillion: btw, I have the drupal theme, will do the recoloring today ;) [05:01] newz2000: oh, awesome ... we are actually attempting to re-theme our drupal setup and ... oh, nvm TheSheep is on it [05:01] TheSheep: you are the man [05:01] highvoltage: hey jonathan [05:01] :-) [05:01] maxamillion: not really, I was supposed to do that a week ago [05:01] hey maxamillion [05:02] TheSheep: oh ... but didn't you just recently get the theme code anyways? [05:02] TheSheep: I've created a drupal module for updating the list of mirrors from launchpad (they have a mirror prober). Would that help? [05:02] newz2000: that would be awesome... as of now, i update by hand [05:03] newz2000: I have no experience with the guts of drupal, I'm a css guy [05:03] maxamillion: do you know for sure if https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+cdmirrors-rss is aplicable for you? [05:03] say, shoudn't we move to #xubuntu-devel or something? [05:03] sure === concept10 [n=concept1@ppp-70-247-165-142.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:13] Does xubuntu-desktop use GDM by default? [05:13] concept10: yes [05:14] maxamillion, thanks. [05:14] concept10: no prob [05:16] My system has some conflict/error. When booting normally, the GDM locks up. (It shows Xubuntu GDM login) When I boot single user mode and run GDM, I have no problems. (it shows normal ubuntu GDM login) Any suggestions? [05:17] concept10: that's strange .... what version of ubuntu you running? [05:17] maxamillion, feisty [05:18] maxamillion, see, I have mostly run ubuntu-desktop over the years, but recently switched/installed to xubuntu-desktop. People with fresh systems may not see this problem. [05:18] This just occurred with the update to GDM 2.18.1 I think [05:18] concept10: hmmm... i might suggest dropping to command line and doing a package update and upgrade, its possible that there was a bug and they have submitted a fix ... but i honestly wouldn't know why it would cause an issue like that [05:18] ah, you just recently updated? [05:19] maxamillion, I have all updates [05:19] concept10: hmmm... ok [05:19] Im almost thinking that a normal boot uses xfwm4, but I could be wrong [05:20] well, gdm is independent of xfwm4 or metacity [05:22] yeah, that was a brain fart on my part [05:22] no worries [05:23] I need to figure out how to debug the gdmlogin since it just freezes [05:23] but yeah ... i am trying to think why gdm would bork on the xubuntu theme [05:23] yeah! Maybe its just the theme === concept10 goes looking for that theme [05:24] I dont understand though, I have ubuntu regular theme set as default, and it still uses the xubuntu theme [05:25] this should mean that my GDM config file isnt being used [05:25] concept10: yeah, there is a command you need to run to set it back ... gimme a minute and i will find it [05:25] at least on normal boot === Naughtyboy [n=Naughtyb@135.217.95.91.static.ter-s.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #xubuntu === ongardie [n=ongardie@66-100-35-21-static.dsl.oplink.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === newz2000 [n=matt@unaffiliated/newz2000] has left #xubuntu ["If] === cyzie [n=cyzie@245.192.48.60.klj02-home.tm.net.my] has joined #xubuntu [05:35] 7.04 is feisty fawn ? [05:35] Yes [05:35] pl [05:35] i have xubuntu 6.10 [05:36] can i upgrade to 7.04 without any problem ? [05:37] It is likely. But I'd wait for the final [05:38] cyzie: you can upgrade, the package freeze happened last night (iirc) and the official release of final images will be in 4 or 5 days ... upgrading now shouldn't cause you problems [05:38] cyzie: i've been running feisty for a few months without issue [05:38] i see. thanks [05:38] cyzie: np [05:38] but i didnt have much time to go into details [05:38] cuz i use fedora core 6 , debian and xubuntu [05:39] cyzie: fair enough .... a little variety never hurt anyone :) [05:39] concept10: do you have gnome installed? [05:39] yea.. got confused sometime.... :-s [05:39] maxamillion, not the entire ubuntu-desktop, but most components [05:39] concept10: well, gnome? [05:39] guys..a question about autostarted services..?? [05:39] Naughtyboy: shoot [05:40] concept10: do you have gnome installed? [05:40] maxamillion, ubuntu-desktop is gnome, yes [05:40] concept10: rgr === grazie rgr = roger = yes [05:40] anacron, atd, klogd, sysklogd and portmap....are they essential to my system..? [05:41] concept10: anyhoo, when you login in the recovery mode can you get to a gnome desktop? [05:41] maxamillion, I don't have the entire contents of the ubuntu-desktop metapackages, but I have pretty much every other gnome library [05:41] grazie: thank you ... i always forget that isn't general notation ;) [05:41] maxamillion, yes.. [05:41] maxamillion: i think you're the only person I know that uses it on irc [05:41] maxamillion, I should mention that most of the time, I like to run my desktop this way. [05:42] concept10: hmmm... actually, my idea won't work because i don't think the setting would carry over .... [05:42] maxamillion, ....anacron, atd, klogd, sysklogd and portmap....are they essential to my system..? [05:42] grazie: probably .... i picked it up chatting on aim with gamer friends [05:42] Naughtyboy: maybe not portmap ... but the others i believe are [05:43] maxamillion, I like to use gnome panels, with xfdesktop and thunar, its kind of a mix between the two [05:43] Naughtyboy: no wait ... i think you might need portmap too [05:43] concept10: fair enough ... [05:43] ah! ... i have class and need to run [05:43] maxamillion, thanks anyway [05:43] maxamillion, _ OK..thnx for the help [05:43] You don't need portmap unless you are running an nfs server [05:43] concept10: no prob, sorry i have to go ... someone else might be able to help === maxamillion looks at grazie :) [05:44] (even with client you can use -o nolock) [05:44] Naughtyboy: np [05:44] bbl === grazie wakes up ...erm what that? === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@upcoguildford.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:45] how does one change the keyboard layout in xfce? [05:46] dooglus: country key mapping? [05:46] dooglus: or keyboard type? === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p3160-ipbf1007marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu [05:51] grazie: country [05:51] grazie: I want US not UK [05:52] dooglus: easiest way is "sudo setxkbmap us" in a terminal === cga [n=cga@213-140-6-101.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #xubuntu [05:52] grazie: will the 'stick' between reboots? === Arkh [n=Arkh@62.152.122.140] has joined #xubuntu [05:53] dooglus: yes [05:53] grazie: thanks. that seems to have worked. === grazie usually everyone gets US whether they want it or not [05:54] np [06:04] I think I selected UK a long time ago when I was using GNOME, maybe. Then I switched to using other computers, all with the US layout, and now I'm back on this old laptop I can't use UK any more. [06:04] The # and ~ and | keys are all in different places [06:04] and \ === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.111.57] has joined #xubuntu === grazie knows from experience that " and @ are switched too [06:07] hi cellofellow ... sort your system out? [06:07] sorted* [06:08] almost [06:09] I forgot those little lines I have to add to xorg.conf to disable compositing so that GL works. [06:09] glad to hear that. hope the almost isn't too much hassle [06:10] well, I now need to rack my brain for all of those programs I installed before, particularly third party ones. [06:10] non-repo I mean. === grazie likes rsync backups at times like that === cellofellow would like some space to backup to === qiuhou [n=alex@i59F7688D.versanet.de] has left #xubuntu [] === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-178-111.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === Gazza [n=Gary@user-514dee9a.l4.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p3160-ipbf1007marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu [06:24] does xubuntu use something other than gdmgreeter? [06:24] what is gdmgreeter? [06:25] Arkh, shows the login box and menu [06:25] oh gdm [06:25] do you want to change the theme or the proram? [06:26] Arkh, no, trying to debug.. [06:26] oh I see [06:26] Arkh, the Xubuntu greeter locks on my system [06:26] (freezes) [06:27] just logging in or switching user? === Naughtyboy [n=Naughtyb@135.217.95.91.static.ter-s.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:28]