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[01:56] <ryanakca> hmm... will we have a spec to have GPG + Kontact working ootb in gutsy gibbon?
=== nixternal notes that gpg+kontact works great here :)
[01:57] <ryanakca> yeah
=== nixternal goes and watches the country music awards :)
[01:57] <ryanakca> works for me about 70% of the time, ootb
[01:57] <ryanakca> lol
[01:57] <nixternal> haha
[01:57] <ryanakca> country... ick
[01:57] <ryanakca> the other 30%, it takes a day to setup
[01:58] <ryanakca> well, s/70/50
[01:58] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: ScottK was going to look into it
[01:58] <ryanakca> kk
=== ryanakca set it as one of his goals when he became a member... haven't gotten around to it :)
=== ScottK was going to look into S/MIME.  GPG works fine now AFAICT.
[01:58] <ryanakca> hmm...
[01:59] <ryanakca> is pinentry-qt installed on a fresh install?
[01:59] <Hobbsee> no
[01:59] <ryanakca> aka, automatically...
[01:59] <Hobbsee> it's not even in main
[01:59] <ScottK> Hobbsee: I'm going for member tomorrow at 2000UTC (Tues).  If you would show up to cheer that would be really great (I know it's early there, so I'd understand).
[01:59] <Hobbsee> ScottK: woo.  it's 6am though, and i dont think i'm even at home, sorry...
[02:00] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: hmm... for the people who have chars like  or  or  or ... (aka, francophones, and other non-english people) in their passphrase, they need to have it installed
[02:00] <ryanakca> the default prompt doesn't take them
[02:00] <ryanakca> and, gpg-agent is installed by default too, I presume
[02:00] <ryanakca> s//?
=== ryanakca should be more specific. GPG works with KMail ootb, but not with GPG-agent
[02:01] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: right.  i never really found out what the deps were that were needed for GPG to work OOTB
[02:02] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Is no problem.  I think I'll be fine with a MOTU or two there.
[02:02] <ryanakca> pinentry-qt, gpg-agent, gpgwatcher (forget the exact name)...
=== Hobbsee notes that we can probabaly email stuff in, too
[02:05] <ScottK> Or leave a comment on my wiki page
[02:05] <ScottK> maybe?
[02:06] <Hobbsee> oh yes, CC does have a list, as i've emailed it before for opstuff
[02:06] <ScottK> OK.  Cool
=== Hobbsee O.O
[02:07] <Hobbsee> http://www.smh.com.au/
=== Hobbsee hopes sydney isnt turning into the next america or something...
[02:08] <Hobbsee> wait, i cant read, dont mind me
[02:09] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: I've used a mixture of these two howto's http://kontact.kde.org/kmail/kmail-pgpmime-howto.php http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_KMail_gpg-agent_kde
=== Hobbsee remembers the first one
[02:11] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: i looked into it a bit, but kmail's unusable for me (certainly was, think it still is), and i couldnt really get an indication if what all of taht was saying was actually working under kubuntu
[02:11] <ryanakca> unusable?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> cant be used? not enough options to use like you want!!1
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ;)
[02:12] <ryanakca> lol
[02:12] <gnomefreak> atleast in USA that is pretty much the definition
[02:12] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: crashes with imap mail.  had it crashing every 2 min
[02:12] <ryanakca> odd
=== gnomefreak has seen that before from one of the kubuntu devels
=== gnomefreak cant remeber who though
[02:13] <Hobbsee> kmail devs have comitted a patch now, but they've comiitted a whole lot of other things, so the patch hasnt been taken
[02:13] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: nixternal or me, probably
[02:13] <gnomefreak> no
[02:14] <gnomefreak> he wrote an imap client for personal use
[02:14] <Hobbsee> oh, toma
[02:14] <gnomefreak> yeah that sounds right
[02:14] <ryanakca> wow... I'm too lazy... I'd just switch to mutt or some other mail client
[02:14] <gnomefreak> it was edgy devel or early feisty devel that im remembering it from
[02:17] <jjesse> good evening
[02:17] <Hobbsee> hi jjesse
[02:17] <jjesse> quick question: can someone look at bug #105376?
[02:17] <ubotu> Malone bug 105376 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu 7.04beta Alt. CD install not create a new user." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105376
[02:17] <jjesse> it is against the beta release
[02:18] <jjesse> hello Hobbsee
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[02:37] <gbeshers> Hello --- downloaded the 7.04 beta ISO, installed, did a dist-upgrade to get the latest bits.
[02:38] <gbeshers> Now I tried getting my nvidia (5950) and large screen (2560x1600) going.
[02:38] <gbeshers> I can't get the nvidia driver to load.
[02:38] <Tm_T> Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:39] <gbeshers> Ah, OFTC?
[02:39] <Tm_T> pardon?
[02:39] <gbeshers> #ubuntu+1 in OFTC or FreeNode?
[02:39] <Tm_T> Freenode, just like this one
[02:39] <gbeshers> Thx. Tm_T
[02:40] <Tm_T> no prob
[02:49] <jjesse> are there multiple ubuntu servers?
[05:10] <nixternal> jjesse: multiple how?
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[09:32] <_marseillais> hi
[09:33] <_marseillais> Hobbsee, are you there ?
[09:33] <Hobbsee> hi _marseillais
[09:33] <_marseillais> Hobbsee, i've just receive a report for a bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/103706
[09:33] <ubotu> Malone bug 103706 in kdenetwork "krfb crashes after connecting with realvnc viewer (dup-of: 39046)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[09:33] <ubotu> Malone bug 39046 in kdenetwork "krfb crashes when a connected client move mouse" [Medium,Unconfirmed] 
[09:33] <_marseillais> do you know if it's avalaible for feisty ?
[09:34] <Hobbsee> _marseillais: the bug, or the fix?
[09:34] <_marseillais> the fix
[09:34] <_marseillais> the bug is "avalaible" since dapper! :D
[09:35] <Hobbsee> bug 39046
[09:35] <ubotu> Malone bug 39046 in kdenetwork "krfb crashes when a connected client move mouse" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/39046
[09:35] <_marseillais> lol Hobbsee look at reporter .....
[09:35] <_marseillais> it's mine! :D
[09:37] <Hobbsee> _marseillais: :D
[09:37] <Hobbsee> _marseillais: that's nto a fix - that's syaing "it's fixed in kde4"
[09:37] <Hobbsee> well, it's nto a fix we can backport, anyway
[09:37] <_marseillais> oki
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[09:39] <_marseillais> Hobbsee, i'll try to see if there is a patch on kde upstream if there is i'll try to apply it to feisty
[09:42] <Hobbsee> _marseillais: there wasnt on that bug report
[09:43] <_marseillais> yes
[09:43] <_marseillais> i've ask
[09:43] <_marseillais> if there is a patch
[09:45] <_marseillais> Hobbsee, if i make a debdiff inculding a patch do you think it can be include in feisty or it's too late? because it's a big bug no ?
=== _marseillais don't really understand exception for release
[09:46] <Hobbsee> _marseillais: too late.  but a candidate for a SRU, if you're wanting to put that through
[09:46] <_marseillais> SRU ?
[09:47] <Hobbsee> !sru
[09:47] <ubotu> Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for main and restricted, while https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU is for universe and multiverse.
[09:49] <_marseillais> thanks
[09:58] <_marseillais> Hobbsee, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124529 so no patch
[09:58] <ubotu> KDE bug 124529 in general "krfb crashes as soon as the connected client moves the mouse" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] 
[09:58] <Hobbsee> _marseillais: yeah, thought so.  seeing as
[09:58] <Hobbsee> ------- Additional Comment #13 From Alessandro Praduroux 2007-04-16 19:28 -------
[09:58] <Hobbsee> not using threads anymore in KDE 4.0
[09:58] <Hobbsee> seemed to be the only fix
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[10:04] <_marseillais> Hobbsee, it's sad that we can't backport but it's a good news for kde4, after several years of abandon krfb is not maintain
[10:04] <_marseillais> :)
[10:07] <Hobbsee> indeed
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[12:38] <Riddell> mhb: able to poke testers into cd testing?
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[03:21] <Tm_T> 16:13 < dholbach> New bug: #123456 in evolution (main) "After subscribing to desktop-bugs and receiving lots of bugmail from a Mr. Bacher, evolution spins with 100% CPU " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123456
[03:21] <Tm_T> how about Kmail equiv
[03:21] <Tm_T> 16:19 < Tm_T> that would be something like "After Feisty release Kubuntu-Users mailing list causes Kmail to hang"
[03:35] <Riddell> nixternal: how's your release notes page coming?
[03:35] <nixternal> you should have a bz2 file this evening :)
[03:43] <kwwii> Riddell: I assume you'll want a pic for the release?
[03:43] <nixternal> kwwii: of course, hell I can answer that one ;p
[03:43] <kwwii> :p
[03:43] <nixternal> hah
[03:43] <nixternal> a
[03:43] <nixternal> damn enter key
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[03:48] <bddebian> heya
[03:51] <nixternal> boo
[03:51] <jsgotangco> boo yaa
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[04:10] <Tm_T> bah
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[04:45] <Riddell> kwwii: if you have something with a suitably kubuntu theme that would be great
[04:46] <Tm_T> hmh, I'm gonna do something I will regert but, I'm gonna register myself to aKademy anyway
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[05:30] <Riddell> nixternal: ping ping, what's the state of the release announcement?
[05:32] <_marseillais_> Riddell, hi!
[05:32] <_marseillais_> Riddell, are you interest by someone that just report me something like this bug 89885 ?
[05:32] <ubotu> Malone bug 89885 in knetworkmanager "[feisty]  konqueror fails to connect to web when knetworkmager is running (in offline mode)" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89885
[05:34] <ScottK> _marseillais_: There are other bugs on that.  I think we have enough information.
[05:34] <_marseillais_> oki
=== ScottK will mark your bug a duplicate of the main one so you can keep track.
[05:35] <_marseillais_> ScottK, not mine ... :) just i saw this one looking for a solution
[05:35] <Riddell> that should have gone away, at least when you're using /etc/networks/interfaces it should still work
[05:35] <_marseillais_> Riddell, not if you use wlassistant
[05:35] <Riddell> mm, no
[05:35] <glatzor> Riddell: Hi, will Simon Edwards be at Sevilla too?
[05:36] <Riddell> glatzor: nope
[05:37] <glatzor> Riddell: that is a pity. would have been nice to talk about guidance/displayconfig.
[05:38] <glatzor> Riddell: but seb128 will join us there?
[05:38] <Riddell> seb will if you want to talk about gnome packaging
[05:39] <Riddell> sebas is also a guidance developer, he'll be there
[05:39] <Riddell> they are different people of course
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[05:47] <ScottK> Riddell: The bug in question about knetwork manager is still marked in progress...  Bug #86680
[05:47] <ubotu> Malone bug 86680 in knetworkmanager "knetworkmanager stops kde applications from accessing the network" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86680
[05:56] <glatzor> Riddell: I mixed up the aliases. I asked for sebas of course :)
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[06:21] <instructor> !flash
[06:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:21] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
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[06:39] <mhb> evening
[06:39] <mhb> Riddell: I'll poke them, sorry to respond so late, I was at a conference spreading Kubuntu CDs
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[06:45] <marseillai> fdoving: i'm starting to package smplayer http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=54487 and i would like to learn CDBS (i've already make a package with debhelper) and i would like to know if you have time to help me ?
[06:45] <marseillai> or someone else
[06:45] <marseillai> ?
[06:45] <ScottK> marseillai: Try in #ubuntu-motu
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[07:01] <sebas> glatzor: I'll be there
[07:02] <glatzor> sebas: fine. I am looking forward to Sevilla
[07:02] <glatzor> and to meeting you again :)
[07:02] <glatzor> (we saw us in UDS Paris)
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[07:06] <glatzor> sebas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DisplayConfigGTK
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[07:06] <wondering> When is this bug going to be fixed? I *still* see it in Feisty! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/64695
[07:06] <ubotu> Malone bug 64695 in meta-kde "KDE logout dialog is missing shutdown and restart options" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[07:07] <wondering> And even though it was reported when Edgy came out. I have this working on Edgy already. It's been "fixed" but not according to Launchpad for Edgy. It's definitely broken on Feisty. Why was this functionality taken out?
[07:07] <glatzor> sebas: if you are interested in the state of the gtk port of displayconfig: the basic features seem to work, but it still needs more logic and love :)
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[07:09] <jbruckman> is anyone who is working on feisty working on fixing problems with the nvidia proprietary drivers?
[07:09] <ScottK> wondering: I think the problem is that no one knows how to reproduce it.
[07:09] <sebas> glatzor: Cool to see it coming along well
[07:09] <wondering> ScottK: No one knows how to reproduce it? I installed a stock Feisty ubuntu-desktop and a stock Feisty kubuntu-desktop. Voila, you have your error reproduced.
[07:09] <ScottK> Many people (myself included) have those options and the bug doesn't really tell anything about what might be different.
[07:09] <wondering> ScottK: Select gdm when apt asks you to.
[07:09] <sebas> Let's make the backend shared in Sevilla
[07:10] <sebas> Now that Feisty is somewhat out, we can go wild and break everything :-)
[07:10] <glatzor> sebas: :)
[07:10] <jbruckman> sebas lol
[07:10] <ScottK> wondering: Ah.  OK.  I expect fixing GDM interoperability isssues probably isn't a high priority for KDE devs.
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[07:12] <wondering> ScottK: Well, I asked on #ubuntu-motu and they told me to come here.
[07:12] <ScottK> Sure.  I saw.
[07:13] <ScottK> You asked why and I'm giving you a guess as to why.
[07:13] <crimsun> to be fair, it looks more like a gdm issue than a kdm one.
[07:13] <ScottK> Should we re-assign the bug then?
[07:13] <crimsun> I'll reread when I get off the phone
[07:14] <ScottK> OK
[07:14] <wondering> crimsun: If I'm not mistaken, the KDE devel team has already implemented the interoptibility with GDM.
[07:14] <ScottK> wondering: If he says its probaby GDM, I'd go with it.  He usually knows what he's talking about.
[07:15] <crimsun> yes, please reassign it to gdm. If sebastian feels otherwise, he'll punt it.
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[07:16] <wondering> The thing I don't understand is that it works in Edgy, but not in Feisty.
[07:17] <ScottK> Done - Bug #64695
[07:17] <ubotu> Malone bug 64695 in gdm "KDE logout dialog is missing shutdown and restart options" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/64695
[07:18] <ScottK> wondering: So I think the true answer to your question about why is a GDM problem was listed as a KDE problem, so the right devs weren't looking at the bug.
[07:18] <ScottK> wondering: Thanks for bringing it up so we could get it properly assigned.
[07:19] <wondering> Mm, makes sense. But that still doesn't answer why the existing solution was _broken_.
[07:19] <ScottK> Yes, but that's a GDM question now.
[07:19] <wondering> What doesn't really make sense to me is that it _works_ in Edgy, but no one ever updated the status on the site. But come Feisty, the same mistakes were made, or worse, working stuff was pulled.
[07:19] <wondering> Okay, so #ubuntu-motu then?
[07:19] <wondering> Er, #ubuntu-devel ?
[07:20] <wondering> Also, who did you reassign it to?
[07:20] <wondering> The status doesn't seem changed.
[07:20] <ScottK> Yes, but probably not right now.  Wait until after Feisty gets released.  Give them a chance to recover.
[07:20] <wondering> ScottK: Okay, how long do you think it would take?
[07:20] <ScottK> I didn't assign it to anyone, I just changed the package.
[07:21] <ScottK> wondering: No idea.  Might be a short amount of time, might be forever.
[07:21] <ScottK> The smart move at this point would be to look in the Gnome bug tracker and see if anyone has reported the issue there.
[07:21] <wondering> Okey-doke.
[07:27] <wondering> crimsun, ScottK: All right, well thanks for everything. I'll be back to report on whatever I find in the next couple of days. Take care.
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[08:09] <nixternal> Riddell: the state of it is about 75% complete, it will be finished tonight. I have a couple of screenshots to do and a couple of quick notes
[08:10] <nixternal> Covered in this set is => Desktop, System Management, Print Management, Photo Management, Multimedia, Topic Based Help, Wireless Networking, and OEM Installation
[08:10] <nixternal> anything else you want in there?
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[08:30] <_StefanS_> evening
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[08:59] <_StefanS_> kwwii: hey you there ? :)
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[11:35] <ash211> I'm interested in becoming Ubuntu's bug contact for Amarok
[11:35] <ash211> https://launchpad.net/amarok/
[11:35] <ash211> how should I got about trying to become that?
[11:35] <ScottK> Subscribe yourself to the bugmail for the package.
[11:36] <ash211> I've done so
[11:36] <ash211> I'd like to be able to change severity for upstream bug reports that don't have URLs associated with them
[11:36] <ash211> ex: bug 107289
[11:36] <ubotu> Malone bug 107289 in amarok "wrong transfer sizes with transkode" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107289
[11:36] <ScottK> You need to be in ubuntu-qa for that.
[11:37] <ScottK> Look in LP for the ubuntu-qa team.
[11:37] <ash211> I'm in ubuntu-qa, but that only allows me to change importance for amarok in ubuntu, which is different than amarok upstream
[11:37] <ScottK> Ah.
[11:37] <ScottK> Upstream you have to change it in the upstream tracker.
[11:37] <ash211> take a look at bug 107289 for a sec
[11:37] <ubotu> Malone bug 107289 in amarok "wrong transfer sizes with transkode" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107289
[11:38] <ash211> it doesn't have a URL for the upstream bug task, so I can't change its importance that way
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[11:39] <ash211> hovering over importance in the upstream task tells me "editable only by the maintainer or bug contact of the project"
[11:39] <ScottK> Yeah.  The only way to change that I know of is file a bug with upstream, link it, and change it there.
[11:39] <ash211> if you look at https://launchpad.net/amarok/ ,
[11:39] <ash211> there's a line for bug contact, which says not yet assigned
[11:40] <ash211> unless there's any objections or anything like that, I'd like to become that person
[11:42] <ScottK> OK.  I"m not sure the process for htat.
[11:42] <ScottK> That'
[11:42] <ScottK> I think the upstream would have to agree to that.
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[11:43] <ash211> I think I'll ask in #ubuntu-devel
[11:43] <ash211> thanks ScottK
[11:49] <gnomefreak> imbrandon: is amarok your baby?
[11:50] <imbrandon> mosty i guess :) why?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> ash211: is wanting to be bug contact
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[11:51] <gnomefreak> i wasnt sure how that was dealt with, i thought you were uploader/maintainer/anything else to do with it
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[11:51] <imbrandon> gnomefreak, pretty much , the bug contact is the gourp and any core dev /can/ work on it, i just work on it moreso than most
[11:51] <ash211> it's at launchpad.net/amarok
[11:51] <imbrandon> group*
[11:52] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:52] <ash211> this is bug contact for upstream amarok, not amarok in ubuntu
[11:52] <ash211> the way launchpad works products, they're worked on differently
[11:52] <imbrandon> ash211, ahh that would be me
[11:52] <ash211> it says nobody now
[11:52] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:52] <ash211> at least not officially, at launchpad.net/amarok
[11:53] <imbrandon> ahh yea, looks like something is screwy there, i'll get that fixed
[11:53] <gnomefreak> all i know is for the next 6 months my hands are full
[11:54] <ash211> imbrandon: thanks
[11:54] <imbrandon> but it should be set to kubuntu-devel@ and your more than welcome to be a bug contact though
[11:54] <ash211> I can't find out how to subscribe to amarok upstream
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[11:54] <ash211> I'm subscribed to amarok in ubuntu, but I think they're worked differently
[11:55] <imbrandon> there is no subscribe
[11:55] <imbrandon> "upstream
[11:55] <imbrandon> "
[11:56] <ash211> this all came about because I wanted to change the importance on bug 107289
[11:56] <ubotu> Malone bug 107289 in amarok "wrong transfer sizes with transkode" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107289
[11:56] <imbrandon> and even if you are the bug contact ( it will be set to the team not one person anyhow ) only motu core-dev and ubuntuqa can set what you are asking anyhow
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ash211: are you logged into LP?
[11:56] <imbrandon> right that has nothing to do with the bug contact
[11:56] <ash211> yes.  thanks for helping me with the idiot check :)
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[11:57] <gnomefreak> ash211: i did it the other day
[11:57] <gnomefreak> ;)
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[11:57] <ash211> this one is telling me I need to be maintainer / bug contact for the project
[11:58] <ash211> it's the task marked upstream, not the amarok (Ubuntu)
[11:58] <gnomefreak> it did for me because Lp changed and it didnt auto log me in
[11:58] <gnomefreak> oh that
[11:58] <imbrandon> ash211, yes that should be read from their bug tracker not ours
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[11:58] <ash211> but this one has no URL, so it won't do that
[11:58] <imbrandon> then it wont ever be set
[11:59] <imbrandon> that should NOT be set by us
[11:59] <ash211> this is largely an academic exercise, i'm just wondering how things work
[11:59] <gnomefreak> ash211: no url shouldnt be labled as upstream
[11:59] <ash211> well, it is!
[11:59] <imbrandon> ash211, upstream importances are NOT set intentionaly, and it needs a url if its marked upstream
[11:59] <ash211> ahh, ok
[12:00] <gnomefreak> ash211: reject it
[12:00] <ash211> I just set it!
[12:00] <gnomefreak> upstream process atleast
[12:00] <ash211> I'll file an upstream bug report and link it then
[12:00] <gnomefreak> oh
[12:00] <imbrandon> ash211, good, thats what (upsteam) is intened for :)
[12:01] <ash211> thanks, that clears things up a lot then
[12:01] <ash211> so the only way to change importance for upstream bugs is 1) if it's linked to a URL, the importance is loaded from there 2) with no URL, the bug contact can change it
[12:01] <imbrandon> ash211, no only 1)
[12:02] <imbrandon> not 2)
[12:02] <imbrandon> we cannot and should not set upstrteam importance, its their decision
[12:02] <gnomefreak> no URL means no upstream bug
[12:02] <imbrandon> and theirs only
[12:02] <ash211> got it imbrandon
[12:03] <ash211> so why does launchpad allow you to set an upstream bug without providing a url?
[12:03] <imbrandon> and if its marked (upstream) and no url is given that needs to be fixed, e.g. filed upstream
[12:03] <imbrandon> because upstream runs the products , not us
[12:03] <imbrandon> so THEY can set it
[12:03] <imbrandon> if they only use3 our bugtracker
[12:03] <ash211> so that upstream bug contact is an amarok person
[12:04] <imbrandon> e.g. like trinity, only uses LP there is not another bug tracker for that project
[12:04] <imbrandon> exactly
[12:04] <ash211> I was interpretting that as a sort of mediator between ubuntu and amarok
[12:04] <imbrandon> no
[12:04] <imbrandon> products ARE upstream
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[12:04] <imbrandon> some are made automaticly so we can forward bugs like in this case
[12:04] <imbrandon> upstream, but products are NOT ubuntu, ubuntu is a product in LP
[12:04] <imbrandon> :)
[12:05] <nixternal> if you want to subscribe to upstream bugs for Amarok that would be done on bugs.kde.org, and unless you have the power, all you can do is watch over there
[12:05] <imbrandon> basicly it boils down too your looking at LP narrowly as if its only for ubuntu ;) rember upstream CAN use lp too :)
[12:06] <ash211> ah, ok, that's what I was forgetting in this case
[12:06] <ash211> sorry for clogging up kubuntu-devel for so long!
[12:06] <imbrandon> np
[12:06] <imbrandon> its confusing at time
[12:06] <imbrandon> s
[12:10] <Riddell> nixternal: that all sounds good, you should push your branch to launchpad so I can take a look and merge it in
[12:10] <imbrandon> heya Riddell
[12:10] <nixternal> hrmm, do I have the ability to push the changes?
[12:10] <nixternal> I thought I just compressed and linked you to them
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[12:11] <nixternal> marseillai: the latest one?
[12:11] <marseillai> yep
[12:11] <nixternal> nice
[12:11] <nixternal> I have to say, smplayer is the only one that hasn't crashed while playing my Sammy Hagar DVD :)
[12:11] <nixternal> I like it
[12:12] <marseillai> nixternal: just have to do a patch because i've change makefile and i propose it to revu ............;
[12:12] <Riddell> nixternal: push to your own branch, see help tab on https://code.launchpad.net/
[12:13] <nixternal> interesting