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Sannekai: you can simulate installing by: sudo apt-get -s install xchat12:14
kaiSanne: Im not a total nube,12:14
Sannekai: then you cann see what would happern beforehand12:14
ThassI have a problem: I cant change my resolution, when I do it crashes back to the login page. And I am trying to change to a lower resolution so its a bit weird.12:14
kaiI jiust odn't all the specifics when it comes to commands12:14
Thassanyone who can help? :)12:14
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Sannekai: you'll learn :). You can also search for xchat in adept or synaptic and install from there, if you prefer.12:15
nuxilhmmm is it worth installing the beta release?12:15
ranjanThass: remove higher resolutions from xorg.conf and retsrta X12:15
Sannenuxil: it may break. It's due on thursday.12:16
ThassHow do I do that? Sorry I just switched to Linux so yah, unlike kai I AM a total nub :D12:16
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ranjanThass: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:17
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nuxilSanne, aha, then i can wait :)12:17
Sannenuxil: heh :)12:17
kailike that cat var log, I woulda never thought of that12:17
ranjanThass: when file is open look for Section "Screen"12:17
kaithere was stuff I was doin in suse 10.1 for wireless(which I never got to work)12:17
AlCantarahello! im searching an easy to use ftp-server, with gui to be used by an user, not a deamon for root.12:18
lookazookaThass: maybe you'll need a little googling, because you'll want to know how to deal with the xorg.conf file12:18
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Thassok lookazooka12:18
Sannekai: that tail -f command? cool, isn't it? You can monitor every text file with that.12:18
ranjanThass: to restart X Crl+Alt+Backspace12:18
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kaiso long as it get updated, Im still not overally familier witht the file system12:19
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kaiI messed up some stuff that I was never able to fi12:19
kai*fix12:19
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lookazookaanyone knows how yo set the PCI sound card (SB Audigy2) as "preferred" over the mobo-integrated one (Intel ICH5)?12:21
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kaiSanne: with the -f switch do12:23
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yannicksalut12:28
yannickil y a des fille qui voudrai parler12:29
Plk-Cnty|Beer-Pohola!!12:29
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yannickc tranquil rare ici12:30
posingaspopular!fs12:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:30
posingaspopular!fr12:30
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:30
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compilerwriter!it12:31
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:31
compilerwriter!ge12:31
ubotu      #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge12:31
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compilerwriter!de12:31
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:31
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kgx!jp12:33
ubotu #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 12:33
sticksabuser!ar12:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:33
kgx!nz12:33
ubotunz is the New Zealand LoCo Team has a channel at #ubuntu-nz12:33
kgx:D12:33
Sanne!botabuse12:34
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...12:34
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velleHey, could somebody help me with aptitude? I need to install unrar-nonfree, and I (I think) enabled Multiverse. But still I cant find it in aptitude.12:40
kaiwasup w/ the bot12:40
wolferinevelle12:40
kaiThey mad him fun to mess w/ or something12:40
wolferinedont get the unrar-free, get the unrar12:40
Ace2016Hi all12:40
wolferinevelle, consult the Ubuntu Guide (use google), it will explain setting up the repos/installing unrar12:40
Ace2016anyone have a mouse with a mouse ball where the scroll wheel is? or a 8D scroll ball mouse?12:41
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wolferineAce2016, cannot get it installed, or issues with the setup?12:42
acidBURNis there a way to setup konqueror to use some of firefox plugins?12:43
vellewolferine: Ok, I've installed "unrar" now. And it seems to work. Thank you.12:43
wolferinenp velle12:43
Ace2016wolferine: issues with the setup12:43
wolferinenow get use to a cli rar, and not the GUI rar, your use to :)12:43
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wolferineAce2016, check the forums?12:43
AlCantarai am searching an easy to use ftp-server, with gui to be used by an user, not a deamon for root.12:43
noxwayxhomehello every one hows it hanging lol12:43
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bobstroto the left12:44
wolferineAlCantara, a GUI one, why not just a cli?12:44
Ace2016wolferine: the up and down scroll correctly scrolls up and down in apps, however left and right act as a faster up and down scroll instead of a left and rght scroll12:44
shawn34can K3b burn VCDs?12:44
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wolferineAce2016, has it always been that way?12:44
noxwayxhomeshawn34yess12:44
wolferineshadowraven, ask in #tovid, they know ALL about it12:44
noxwayxhomeshawn34 yes it can12:45
shawn34noxwayxhome: how i can't find the option?12:45
AlCantarawolferine: my _user_ has to create different accounts with different ftp-folders and user-rights every day.12:45
shawn34noxwayxhome: do i need to install a plugin?12:45
noxwayxhomeshawn34:  file- new projects12:45
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wolferineAlCantara, ah, well, if your coming form a winblows environment, FTP just isnt the same :)12:45
pyrotixI've converted a bunch of .flv from youtube to .mpg's although my archos 404 needs to buy a codec to run those (grr), how would I convert the files to .avi?12:46
shawn34noxwayxhome: a crap, i can't convert avi to mpeg though can it12:46
shawn34noxwayxhome: damn12:46
noxwayxhomenoxwayxhome: no you cant12:46
wolferineshawn34, tovid does .avi to .mpeg12:46
shawn34devede i guess12:46
shawn34tovid?12:46
wolferineyes12:46
AlCantarawolferine: yes. i used bpftp with windows. it was perfect.12:46
wolferinei gave you the channel for it already12:46
noxwayxhomeshawn34: do a search on the net it is the best dvd rip around12:47
wolferineAlCantara, then run VMware or Wine :)12:47
AlCantaraurgs12:47
wolferinehehe12:47
wolferinehey, its an option12:47
pyrotixis the answer to my question the same?12:47
wolferineas for a GUI FTP, I am sure there is one out there12:47
pyrotixtrying to mpeg --->> .avi12:47
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noxwayxhomewolferine: what do you want one for12:47
wolferinetovid wont do that pyrotix12:48
AlCantarabut what about the port 21 access for a wine-application? can a app with user-rights aquire it?12:48
wolferinenoxwayxhome, i think your getting comfuesd :)12:48
pyrotixGUI ftp: pure-ftp has a gnome frontend12:48
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AlCantaracool. will try it12:48
wolferineAlCantara, you can do anything in linux :)12:48
noxwayxhomewolferine:sorry12:48
wolferinenoxwayxhome, np12:48
AlCantarajust found the pure-ftp configuration at /etc/pureftp12:48
pyrotixNow can someone tell me how to .mpg ---> .avi?12:49
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wolferineAlCantara, either way, it just wont be the same as you had it12:49
wolferinepyrotix, did you google it?12:49
noxwayxhomeDeVeDe this is a good program for dvd stuff look it up anyone how was asking12:49
shawn34ImportError: No module named pygtk12:50
Ace2016hi again12:50
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shawn34when running devede: ImportError: No module named pygtk12:50
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Ace2016anyone know how to map Win+left mouse button > middle click?????12:51
AlCantarapure-ftp website: "An excellent choice for newbies."  ... hope so... ;)12:51
Ace2016its just really hard to middle click with this thing12:51
noxwayxhomexampplite it is a good temp webserver for windows12:51
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BadRabbit320do I need to access other channels thru 'channel list' each time I want to enter another channel?12:51
wolferinelol12:51
shawn34when running devede: ImportError: No module named pygtk, any ideas?12:51
mrdlouisdIm trying to format my external hdd to nfts what is a good program to do so?12:52
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wolferineBadRabbit320, just type /join #newchannel12:52
shawn34BadRabbit320: no, /join #chan-name12:52
wolferinewhere each #newchannel, is the one you want to enter12:52
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wolferinemrdlouisd, you want to do NTFS, why?12:52
shawn34any help with this error?12:53
AlCantarayes. xampp is very good, but complex. omniHTTPd is a good lightweight alternative in many cases12:53
pyrotixwolferine: no luck, although ffmpeg may possibly be able to convert .flv --> .avi I got lost in the man page12:53
wolferineAlCantara, I use proFTPd12:53
mrdlouisdits for my win32 server. I plucked this drive out of a dvr box I had and it will read in linux easier then win12:53
shawn34im trying to get this burned so me and my girl can watch this movie tonight12:53
wolferinepyrotix, ask in #tovid12:53
noxwayxhomeshawn34: http://www.pygtk.org/ take look here12:53
wolferinereally, they know a thing or two12:53
BadRabbit320so I still need to type the chan name each time?  Bookmarks is grayed once I click on it...12:54
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wolferinemrdlouisd, will it primarily be a linux drive (will you want to write to it in Linux) ?12:54
wolferineBadRabbit320, what IRC client?12:54
mrdlouisdno its for my win32 server12:54
mrdlouisdthats why i would like to format to nfts12:54
wolferinethen format it on the win box :)12:54
mrdlouisdwont recognize on the win drive12:55
BadRabbit320Konversation12:55
shawn34noxwayxhome: is it in the repositories?12:55
mrdlouisdit was plucked from a dvr and is ext format12:55
wolferinewell, just to let you know, NTFS is hard to get along with linux12:55
wolferinefyi12:55
mrdlouisdi just want to format that is all12:55
mrdlouisdthen it goes to the server12:55
wolferinewell, you might want to ask in a win chanel12:55
mrdlouisdqpart wont work12:56
mrdlouisdqtpart i think its called12:56
wolferineGnome Partition Editor?12:56
mrdlouisdill just beat up google, figured id find someone thats preformed it before here, thanks wolf for the help12:56
noxwayxhomeshawn34: give min12:56
wolferinemrdlouisd, u can probably just do it in the winbox, usb?12:57
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pyrotixwolferine: I'm not trying to create a vcd, just to get a video file into a format my archos 404 (think ipod video-like thing) can play12:57
wolferinePyrotix, last time, check out #tovid :)12:58
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pyrotixkk12:58
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noxwayxhomeshawn34: see if you have the lattest version of python12:59
AlCantarapyrotix: are you sure, that pure-ftp has a gnome frontend? i cant find anything like that12:59
mrdlouisdwolf my prob is its in ext format and windows will not recognize that format12:59
wolferinemrdlouisd, partition magic?01:00
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wolferinemrdlouisd, just because you cannot see the drive in "My computer", doesnt mean its not there01:00
pyrotixyep01:00
shawn34noxwayxhome: python 2.4.6-11ubuntu301:00
pyrotixAlCantara: PureAdmin, for PureFTPd01:00
mrdlouisdjust remembered that ill see if i cant get it to come up01:00
AlCantarathanks01:01
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shawn34noxwayxhome: python 2.4.6-11ubuntu3... thats the latest right?01:02
noxwayxhomeshawn34: yes that is what i have01:02
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noxwayxhomeshawn34: well i dont know01:03
Ahmuckitems are not showing up on my k menu.  is there a way to get kmenu to add them automagically ?01:03
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wolferineAhmuck, kmenu doesnt do it, the programs do it themselves01:03
noxwayxhomeshawn34: what desktop are you running01:03
shawn34kde01:03
wolferineor you would have to add them manually01:03
wolferineAhmuck, as each application will require a different command to execute it01:04
Ahmucki thought there was a program that would autodiscover programs and add them01:04
Ahmuckor at least i saw one in add/remove programs01:04
wolferineAhmuck, google that, and see if your lucky :)01:04
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noxwayxhomeshawn34: you want to know somthing funny it is the same problem i am having with mine lol01:06
noxwayxhomeshawn34: i just installed it and it is telling me the same thing01:06
hitmanWillynoxwayxhome, shawn34 what is it telling you? just got here01:07
mrdlouisdThanks wolf remember getting a hdd to work awhile back on a comp, and just formated it on my win box, thanks again for refreshing my brain lol.01:07
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noxwayxhomehitmanWilly: pygtk is missing01:07
hitmanWillynoxwayxhome, there's a gtk-specific python lib, hod on a sec...01:08
wolferinemrdlouisd, np01:08
noxwayxhomehitmanWilly that is what i was looking up right know01:08
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noxwayxhomeon there site01:08
hitmanWillypython-gtk201:09
Ahmucki added a buch of apps, such as bluefish, etc and i had kde menu editor open when doing it ... would this cause the icons not to be added to the menu?01:09
hitmanWillyand python-gtk2-dev01:09
noxwayxhomelol thanks hitman01:09
shawn34apt-get install python-gtk2   ?01:09
hitmanWillyshawn34, yup01:09
noxwayxhomehitmanWilly: try this one know01:09
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hitmanWillysee if that works01:09
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pyrotixCan someone tell me how to .mpg ---> .avi?01:10
noxwayxhomehitmanWilly: where is the past bin site at01:10
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noxwayxhomei have another err01:10
hitmanWilly!paste01:10
shawn34lol01:10
eagles0513875i feel like a total idiot01:10
noxwayxhomeshawn34: lol01:10
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shawn34now it can't find glade01:10
shawn34lord01:10
noxwayxhomeshawn34: that is what i am geting now two01:11
lettuce_I have two HDs, one with kubuntu and one with Windows. I can boot from each of them, but only if the other one is unplugged. When I have both of them plugged in, the one with kubuntu begins to boot, but then gives and error and doesn't start. Will installing lilo allow me to choose which HD to boot from, or do I have to do something else?01:11
hitmanWillyshawn34, dis you install this through the repos?01:11
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noxwayxhomelettuce_: you need to install grub on the mrb01:11
lettuce_what's mrb?01:11
eagles0513875u mean mbr01:11
pyrotixCan someone tell me how to .mpg ---> AVI, DivX, MPEG4 or ASF?01:11
eagles0513875lettuce_: mbr01:11
noxwayxhomeeagles0513875: yes01:12
lettuce_ok, what's that? :)01:12
angasulepyrotix: mplayer can do it01:12
hitmanWilly!codecs | pyrotix01:12
eagles0513875lettuce_: make sure u installed windows first01:12
hitmanWillyis the bot dead?01:12
eagles0513875if u r planning on doing a duel boot01:12
eagles0513875!help[01:12
lettuce_well crap I don't want to go through all this again01:12
eagles0513875lettuce_: did u install linux first01:12
lettuce_is there anything I can do?01:12
eagles0513875not that i know of01:13
lettuce_ya linus first01:13
eagles0513875humm01:13
lettuce_*linux01:13
kaiI had the flash plugins for firefox and opera and it worked fine, I restarted and now sites like speedtest.net dont work any its like it was never installed. Any one else have that problem?01:13
eagles0513875i dunno lettuce_ im still a noob01:13
eagles0513875r u using edgy or feisty01:13
pyrotix!codecs01:13
lettuce_so am i lol01:13
eagles0513875!codecs01:13
lettuce_it's ok :)01:13
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pyrotix!codecs01:13
pyrotixWHAT01:13
eagles0513875lol the bot has arrived01:13
pyrotixHE WON'T HELP ME01:13
pyrotixGORRAM BOT01:14
eagles0513875!codecs | pyrotix01:14
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hitmanWillylettuce_, you have to reinstall grub since windows overrides the hdd's boot sector01:14
lettuce_but what did you mean by installing grub on the mbr?01:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:14
hitmanWillyyay, bot!!01:14
eagles0513875that is what i mean when i said install windows first01:14
KrAmMeRdoes anyone know how to fix choppy video in MergedFB?01:14
ubotupyrotix: please see above01:14
eagles0513875once windows is installed it installs it onto the mbf01:14
eagles0513875*mbr01:14
hitmanWilly!grub | lettuce_01:15
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shawn34hitmanWilly: its looking for glade, gtk.glade, there are many packages with 'glade' in the name...01:15
lettuce_do i have to reinstall linux to do that or is there a way to only reinstall grub01:15
noxwayxhomeshawn34: got it python-glade201:15
KrAmMeRor is that just the quality of my graphics card01:15
shawn34i just did that01:15
noxwayxhomeshawn34: lol01:15
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lettuce_oh ok !grub in terminal?01:15
ubotulettuce_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:15
shawn34wait no01:15
shawn34i did glade-2.101:15
shawn34brb01:15
hitmanWillyshawn34, it'll be libglade<something or other>01:15
lettuce_what if I install lilo?01:15
hitmanWillylettuce_, why would you want to do that?01:16
lettuce_cause It could substitute for grub01:16
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shawn34Got it!01:16
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shawn34noxwayxhome: python-glade2 vcdimager01:17
eagles0513875j/w01:17
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shawn34thanks guys01:17
eagles0513875i have an nvidia gpu01:17
ubuntucoldfr3ak, you here?01:17
hitmanWillylettuce_, it doesn't matter, either one will work only if it is installed AFTER windows01:17
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ubuntunope01:17
lettuce_ok thank you01:17
eagles0513875only thing is when i do glxinfo it comes up as direct rendering as no y is that but when i run glxgears it runs flawlessly01:17
ubuntu#ubuntuforums01:17
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ubuntu#ubuntu01:18
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hitmanWillylettuce_, there's a tutorial somewhere on how to do it, search on the ubuntu wiki's, the bot knows, but it's ignoring me01:18
lettuce_if I reinstall grub from a package manager, will that do?01:18
eagles0513875bot is broken01:18
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hitmanWillylettuce_, if you can boot into nix, then yes01:19
pyrotixeagles0513875: mplayer I thought just played video, I'm trying to convert .mpg (MPEG-1) -> AVI, DivX, MPEG4 or ASF?01:19
lettuce_what do you mean by that?01:19
ubuntuFr3ak, you here?01:19
pyrotixforget the question mark01:19
hitmanWillylettuce_, you said you installed windows after nix, right?01:19
eagles0513875i know there is a converter pyrotix but i dont remember the name01:19
lettuce_what's nix?01:19
eagles0513875let me chekc pkg repository pyrotix01:20
hitmanWillylettuce_, ubuntu01:20
lettuce_ok, ya01:20
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ubuntu?01:20
hitmanWillyubuntu, sorry, refering to prog, not you01:20
ubuntuok sorry01:20
ubuntuactually I'm danny50001:20
ubuntubut my main drive is fed up and I can't get it to boot01:21
eagles0513875i cant find it pyrotix01:21
hitmanWillylettuce_, do you have a livecd handy?01:21
ubuntuI have to drives with ubuntu cause I just stuck a new drive in that had it and now I can't use my original drive01:21
lettuce_ya01:22
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lettuce_tons01:22
hitmanWillylettuce_, nix is just shorthand for any unix/linux/bsd type system01:22
ubuntuany ideas what to do?01:22
lettuce_oh, ok01:22
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hitmanWillylettuce_, you'll probably have to boot into that(livecd) to fix this issue01:23
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Ace2016wolferine: no luck, tried the stuff in the forums, the mouse buttons just aren't detected, this is the mouse:   http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=38162&DOY=search&C=SO&U=Strat1201:24
Ace2016can anyone help01:25
eagles0513875whats wrong ace01:25
IdleOnejust installed kubuntu-desktop and logged back in. I get the kubuntu login screen but I the default ubuntu desktop loads up? what do I need to uninstall to get just kubuntu on my system?01:25
Ace2016buttons 6 and 7 are being detected as 5 and 601:25
Ace2016argh sorry01:25
eagles0513875u mean a keyboard issue01:25
Ace2016nope mouse issue01:25
eagles0513875IdleOne: just download server if u only want cli01:25
eagles0513875let me c ace01:25
hitmanWillyIdleOne, select kde as default session form login screen01:26
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hitmanWilly*from01:26
IdleOneeagles0513875: dont want cli I want Kubuntu without the gnome stuff that was on here before01:26
ubuntuwow, they have good servers for downloading Ubuntu 6.10, I'm downloading it at a good 1.5MB/s :D01:26
hitmanWillynice!01:26
ubuntuimpressive01:26
hitmanWillyi generally top out at 5-600 k01:27
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Ace2016eagles0513875: i modified my xorg.conf to try and get it to work but no luck http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/55201:27
IdleOnehitmanWilly: didnt see where to choose session on the login screen01:27
ubuntuthey need to get a better server for the updates01:27
ubuntucause I do 500kb/s max while updating01:27
ubuntuand with 300 programs to download thats kinda frustrating lol01:28
hitmanWillyIdleOne, it could be anywhere, depending on the login screen theme01:28
ubuntuHey um, I'm having a problem botting from my one Ubuntu drive01:28
IdleOnehitmanWilly: im assuming it's default01:28
IdleOnegonna check and see01:28
hitmanWillyIdleOne, it'll should have something like <Session> on it01:29
ubuntuI just put a new hd in and installed ubuntu on it aswell and when I restatted the computer the first hd stopped alowing me to boot from it01:29
ubuntuany help?01:29
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hitmanWillyubuntu, did the installer screw up the MBR somehow?01:29
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ubuntuwhats the MBR?01:30
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chemicalvampmaster boot record01:30
ubuntudon't know01:30
hitmanWillyubuntu, Master Boot REcord01:30
chemicalvampubuntu do you use grub?01:30
ubuntuyes01:30
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chemicalvampyour on a live cd right01:30
ubuntunope, I'm on the drive I just installed ubuntu on01:31
ubuntumy original drive won't boot, this one is fine but I only want to use this drive as storage01:31
chemicalvampdo you know how to mount your faulty install?01:32
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chemicalvampimean the drive its on01:32
danny500yes, both drives are on01:33
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danny500I even told the bios to not look to this drive for boot records and to look specifically at the original drive for boot records and still nothing01:33
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danny500I tried taking this drive out thinking the two drives were colliding with each other and even that won't work, I'm thinking about just reinstalling ubuntu01:34
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chemicalvamppaste bin /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/menu.lst please (replace /mnt/hda1 with your mount point)01:34
angasule hello, is it possible to access another computer with fish as a user, but sudo su so that I have superuser access? it's a kubuntu box and I dont want to add a password (and certainly won't allow root login through ssh), but I need to copy all files off /01:35
danny500ok01:35
danny500how do I see the hard drives attached right now in terminal?01:36
chemicalvampfdisk -l01:36
danny500ok01:36
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chemicalvampim not sure tho, i cant test it cuz im running a live cd (wireless adapter doesnt work in feisty yet)01:37
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Ace2016danny500: so it just won't boot? are you sure windows is still there?01:38
Ace2016just that someone wiped windows this morning and it took a long time to realise that01:38
danny500windows?01:38
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Ace2016oh i thought yuo said windows couldn't boot01:39
danny500no, I had Ubuntu working on my original for like a week then  I got a new drive that I was going to use for torrents and when I installed ubuntu on it the first hd stopped booting01:39
danny500no, fuck windows01:39
danny500oops01:39
danny500 languag01:40
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danny500sorry01:40
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soulrider__danny500: what might have happened is that hte partition you had ubuntu on changed names01:41
soulrider__like, say it was hda, it could ahve changed to hdb01:41
soulrider__thats why it wouldnt boot01:41
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danny500how can that happen? the01:42
danny500ubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$  bin /mnt/hdb1/boot/grub/menu.lst01:43
danny500bash: bin: command not found01:43
danny500oops nm my bad01:43
danny500!pastebin01:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:44
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danny500ok, I'm paste binning what it said01:45
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hitmanWillydanny500, you're not running feisty are you?01:47
danny500no, 6.0601:47
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chemicalvampdanny500 im pretty sure you need to fix your boot menu01:47
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danny500how do I do that?01:47
danny500in the bios01:47
hitmanWillydanny500, /etc/grub/menu.lst01:47
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danny500now check pastebin01:48
chemicalvamprun fdisk -l to see your partitions, figure out which one you need to fix01:48
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chemicalvampwell its /boot/grub/menu.lst for me01:49
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danny500I'm just going to install 6.10 and see if that fix's it01:49
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hitmanWillychemicalvamp, yeah, that's right, typo01:50
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danny500permission denied01:50
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hitmanWillydanny500, sudo it01:50
danny500oh ok01:50
chemicalvampwe gotta teach him how to add his ubuntu  boot to it, and i never done it before01:50
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hitmanWillychemicalvamp, i have, it's ok01:51
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danny500command not found01:51
danny500DAMNIT!01:51
danny500forget it01:51
danny500I'll just install 6.1001:51
rubyatdanny500: just do manual partitioning when you install01:51
chemicalvampits 0,0 for first drive first partition, but is it 1,0 for second drive second partition?01:51
danny500yeah, I will01:51
chemicalvampdanny500 whats your mount directory for tyhe drive01:52
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, (1,0) = second drive, first partition01:52
danny500hdb101:52
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, first # drive, second # partition01:52
chemicalvampwhat are you running right now ubuntu?01:52
chemicalvampwhats the text editor for it01:53
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, for stock ubuntu its either gedit or nano01:53
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, or vim for the old school types :)01:53
chemicalvampgksudo gedit /mnt/hdb1/boot/grub/menu.lst should be right then01:54
danny500how do I burn a bootable cd of linux using K3b?01:54
chemicalvampburn an image01:54
danny500yeah, I know that01:54
chemicalvampif the image is of a bootable cd.. the created cd will be bootable01:54
danny500but is there any options I have to click or anything like that?01:54
Ahmuckis it possible to install windows xp home without screwing up my new shine feisty install01:54
chemicalvampnope easy as pie01:55
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danny500ok01:55
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danny500gksudo gedit /mnt/hdb1/boot/grub/menu.lst worked01:55
chemicalvampAhmuck do you have an empty partition01:55
chemicalvamplol ever seen this one?01:55
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chemicalvamp!windows01:55
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents01:55
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danny500HAHAHAHAHA mental institute :D01:56
chemicalvamplol i know01:56
Ahmuckchemicalvamp: yes01:56
danny500gotta love that01:56
Thassok, I need some help (again) :/01:56
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, actually, you don't need the /boot on that path, ubu mounts the partition on /boot01:56
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danny500does anyone here use Breyl?01:56
hitmanWillydanny500, yes01:56
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ThassI have a via graphic card, I just downloaded the driver but I dont know how to install them?01:56
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danny500you like it?01:57
hitmanWillydanny500, yes01:57
chemicalvampAhmuck go thru the installer on your free partion then you gotta make sure grub has it in the menu/lst01:57
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hitmanWillydanny500, very much so01:57
danny500ok how good of a computer do you need to use it?01:57
chemicalvampberyl was pretty messy for me01:57
chemicalvamppretty good01:57
danny500I have a 550MHz P3, with 320RAM, and a 8MB graphics card, think that will work?01:57
hitmanWillydanny500, anything reasonably modern with a 3D graphics card should handle it01:57
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chemicalvampuhh no01:58
hitmanWillydanny500, no01:58
danny500ok just wondering01:58
danny500lol01:58
ThassCan anyone help me? im a nub :P01:58
danny500yp01:58
danny500yep01:58
chemicalvampi got a 2.2ghz 1 gig ram, and 32 mb video, and i wasnt liking the massive processor lag in xgl01:58
hitmanWillydanny500, you need like at least a 64mb 3d accelerator for starters01:58
danny500oh ok01:58
ThassI downloaded via graphic card drivers, but I dont know how to install them01:58
chemicalvampi mean 64*01:59
Ahmuckchemicalvamp: so if i install windows xp home after i have installed the other it won't destroy the grub menu?01:59
hitmanWillyThass, did you download them from the repos?01:59
danny500well I'm making a new computer right now that will have 3GHz dual core, with 2GB RAM and a 512MB graphics card, Think that will work ok? :D01:59
chemicalvampnope, but your gonna have to add the windows boot info to your grub menu01:59
hitmanWillyThass, ie apt-get01:59
ThasshitmanWilly:  no I got it from viarena01:59
Thass*via arena01:59
hitmanWillyThass, i think they have them in the repos, those install themselves02:00
chemicalvampdanny500 can you pastebin that menu.lst?02:00
hitmanWilly!via02:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
danny500no it's ok, I'm going to install 6.10 now02:00
hitmanWillyok, maybe not:)02:00
hitmanWillyThass, what's the problem?02:01
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chemicalvamp!bot snack02:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bot snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:01
chemicalvampthey got rid of bot snack?02:01
hitmanWilly!snack02:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:01
danny500!ubotu snack02:01
Thasswell my screen "refreshrate" or whatever is really slow, so I figured it must be the driver02:01
hitmanWillyLAME!!!02:01
chemicalvamp!ping02:01
ubotupong02:01
danny500!marco02:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about marco - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:01
danny500lol darn02:01
danny500!ping02:02
chemicalvampshe doesnt like you lol02:02
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pyrotixCan someone tell me how to change .mpg ---> AVI, DivX, MPEG4 or ASF?02:02
danny500yo, go to www.funnyordie.com and watch the landlord movie, it's way to funny02:02
vontuxpyrotix: I believe mplayer can do that for you02:02
danny500you can use vlc to02:02
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chemicalvampdanny500 did you get it all fixed up or do you need help? if you need help you gotta paste you menu.lst02:03
hitmanWillyThass, i really don't know too much about via graphics cards, do they have any tutorials or anything on the site?02:03
danny500no, I'm just going to install 6.10 over it and see if that works, if not I'll be back :)02:03
pyrotixvontux: I was under the impression that mplayer played those tracks, I want to reencode02:03
chemicalvampwont you lose data?02:03
danny500I need 6.10 anyways, need to use ntfs-3g02:03
danny500nope02:03
chemicalvampahh02:03
danny500I put all data on www.mediamax.com just incase02:03
vontuxpyrotix: I believe that you can play and dump into the different format02:03
ThasshitmanWilly:  I didnt find any02:04
vontuxpyrotix: I read about it while researching how to capture c-span video stream with mplayer02:04
chemicalvampBUT i would try to fix grub first cuz it wouldnt take as long02:04
hitmanWillyThass, try a search on the ubuntu wiki, might be something there02:04
vontuxI would research "mplayer + format conversion"02:04
pyrotixk, ty02:04
hitmanWilly!wiki | thass02:04
ubotuthass: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation02:04
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hitmanWillyThass, do a search on there for via help02:05
danny500yes but I need 6.10 anyways02:05
hitmanWillyThass, or just via02:05
chemicalvampohh ok02:05
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vontuxdoes anyone know how I can get apt-get to download all of the dependencies for a package using the "-d" option even if my computer already has some of them met?02:06
danny500wanna hear something funny, this will make you laugh for a good while, it's about Windows and Linux02:06
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vontuxok02:06
danny500I'll pastebin it02:06
danny500!pastebin02:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:07
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ThassI got this viafb.modes file that has all the right information atleast02:08
hitmanWillyvontux, maybe the -f option in conjunction with -d?02:08
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vontuxhitmanWilly: I will man it to see, thx02:08
chemicalvampThass have you followed the !ati tutorial?02:08
Thasschemicalvamp: nope02:09
chemicalvamp!ati02:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:09
dwidmannHmm, does anyone else have trouble getting K3b (1.0) to use normalize-audio?02:09
chemicalvampgo there, select via and read02:09
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, didn't know they had via instructions there as well02:09
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hitmanWillychemicalvamp, but then my knowledge of via chipsets is that they exist, and that's about it02:10
danny500ok, check pastebin02:10
hitmanWillydanny500, what url?02:10
hitmanWillydanny500, you do realize that pastebin puts the post on a new url, right?02:11
danny500http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16032/02:11
danny500yeah02:12
hitmanWillydanny500, sorry, didn't know, check pastebin is kinda vague02:12
danny500?02:13
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danny500oh ok nm02:13
hitmanWillydanny500, you would be surprised how many people don't know that02:13
IdleOnemy repos read archive.ubuntu.com do I need to change them to kubuntu?02:14
hitmanWillyIdleOne, kubuntu uses the ubuntu repos02:14
hitmanWillyIdleOne, so, no02:14
IdleOnethank you  hitmanWilly02:14
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IdleOnewasnt sure if they had seperate repos or not02:14
vontuxwhen you "-d" a file in apt-get, where does it get saved to?02:15
danny500thats because Ubuntu is the original and Kubuntu was built off of Ubuntu, same as edubuntu blah blah blah02:15
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IdleOnebtw is there a #kubuntu+1 for feisty support?02:15
hitmanWillyIdleOne, all kubuntu is is regular ubuntu with kde installed bydefault rather than gnome02:15
chemicalvamp#ubuntu+102:15
IdleOneok02:15
IdleOnenew to kubuntu. feel like a noob here lol02:15
danny500if you have ubuntu you can switch to kubuntu right away by installing the kubuntu desktop environment02:16
danny500it's ok02:16
vontuxwhen you "-d" a file in apt-get, where does it get saved to?02:16
hitmanWillydanny500, or vice versa02:16
danny500yep02:16
Thass!ati02:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:16
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danny500just use the synaptic installed to do what you want02:16
ThassWell I cant find a via howTo in there02:16
hitmanWillyvontux, probably /etc/apt somewhere02:16
vontuxthx02:16
IdleOnedanny500: yeah been running ubuntu for a couple years now just never tried running kde because it is ( or I thought ) heavier then gnome02:16
reydelsillonwhat is the kubuntu linux amule or win emule?02:17
danny500yeah02:17
hitmanWillyreydelsillon, amule02:17
danny500as long as it does what you need it to do it's all good02:17
danny500if it does what you want it to how you want it to then just leave it lol02:17
reydelsilloncant find it with the adept package manager.02:17
danny500reydelsillon: use synaptic02:18
hitmanWillyreydelsillon, or apt02:18
danny500turn on all repos in the repo settings02:18
IdleOne!repos > reydelsillon    (reydelsillon, see the private message from Ubotu)02:18
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IdleOne!botsnack02:19
ubotuYum!02:19
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Gh0st75evening folks02:19
IdleOneevening Gh0st7502:19
hitmanWillyyo Gh0st7502:19
Gh0st75how's everyone doin tonight?02:19
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danny500to change your repo setting open terminal an use this,02:20
danny500gksu /usr/bin/software-properties02:20
danny5006.10 is done burning :D:D:D:D:D02:20
hitmanWilly?02:20
hitmanWillydanny500, why not just edit sources.list?02:21
vontuxdoes anyone know of a program that keeps a log of what new files have been added to your system each session?02:21
danny500cause gksu /usr/bin/software-properties is easier02:21
danny500and faster02:21
hitmanWillyk02:21
danny500lol02:21
hitmanWillythat works too02:21
danny500ok gotta go for a lil bit need to install 6.10 :d02:21
hitmanWillyformer slack user here02:21
danny500brb02:21
danny500me?02:21
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hitmanWillyno, me02:21
danny500oh ok lol02:21
danny500brb02:21
IdleOnehmm I get an error when doing gksu /usr/bin/software-properties02:22
Gh0st75i have feisty on two systems now, seems to work pretty well02:22
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hitmanWillyIdleOne, which is?02:23
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IdleOneX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16702:23
IdleOne  Major opcode:  14402:23
IdleOne  Minor opcode:  302:23
IdleOne  Resource id:  0x002:23
IdleOneFailed to open device02:23
Gh0st75no wireless on the laptop yet but i've seen mention of some ndiswrapper settings to check02:23
IdleOnesorry for the paste02:23
BluesKajhitmanWilly, can some running breezy , upgrade directly to feisty ?02:23
BluesKajsomeone02:23
IdleOnehitmanWilly: thats the error02:23
hitmanWillyIdleOne, does it open up?02:23
IdleOnenope02:23
soulrider!software02:23
ubotuA general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents02:23
hitmanWillyBluesKaj, maybe, but its not reccomended02:24
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IdleOneBluesKaj: probably wont work and break your system02:24
BluesKajthere's a guy over at ubuntu+1 asking about it02:24
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hitmanWillyBluesKaj, i guess in theory, if you updated sources manually, but definately NOT a good idea02:25
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BluesKajok thx hitmanWilly , i'llpass it on02:25
hitmanWillyIdleOne, ok, run this in terminal: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:26
hitmanWillyIdleOne, once the file comes up,remove any # symbols you find in front of every line that starts with a deb02:28
soulrider!scanner02:28
ubotuScanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners02:28
IdleOnehitmanWilly: I wasnt trying to edit sources.list I saw the command and saw the mention of it being easier then say doing sudo nano /etc/ept/sources.list so I trtied it02:29
IdleOneapt02:29
hitmanWillyok, got it02:29
IdleOnebut still wondering why I got that error02:29
IdleOnehehe02:29
pyrotix!ffmpeg02:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:29
kubuntu22quick question...When I installed kubuntu 6.04 I had to install ndiswrapper with special drivers for my WUSB54Gs wireless adapter.  I'm doing the feisty upgrade now..will I have to do it again?02:30
soulriderdoes anyon ehere have a scanner? kooca could tell that i ahd one, but the main widnow said i needed SANE for it to work02:30
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hitmanWillyIdleOne, you'll get that error pretty much every time you run an X program from the CLI, all it means is that it can't load the wacom tablet drivers from xorg.conf, but the app should still work fine02:31
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IdleOnekubuntu22: do upgrade from 6.04 to 6.10 to 7.04 to make sure nothing breaks and about ndiswrapper Im not sure but assuming you might have to reinstall02:31
super_raddo optical usb mice work in kubuntu 6.10? if i boot up with mine plugged in it doesnt work and none of the other usb things work02:31
hitmanWillysuper_rad, mine worked fine on edgy02:31
kubuntu22IdleOne: I'm already halfway through the Distro upgrade to 7.04!02:32
IdleOnehitmanWilly: ok good to know02:32
IdleOnekubuntu22: keep going then02:32
kubuntu22IdleOne: :O02:32
hitmanWillykubuntu22, did you upgrade to 6.10 first?02:32
kubuntu22hitmanWilly: yea02:32
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IdleOneyour good then02:32
kubuntu22cool :)02:33
hitmanWillykubuntu22, ok, whew02:33
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hitmanWillythat could have been bad02:33
super_radhm weird i might have to post on ubuntuforums about it then02:33
kubuntu22wow...glad I did then heh...why so bad?02:33
hitmanWillykubuntu22, dapper and feisty are different enough that a straight upgrade can break things02:33
kubuntu22hitmanWilly: ahh, I see..to be honest I think my initial install was edgy...I've never used dapper02:34
kubuntu22so I'm jus tgoing from 6.10 to 7.0402:34
hitmanWillykubuntu22, it's like shifting straight from 1st to 4th in your car02:34
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kubuntu22hitmanWilly: that makes sense haha02:34
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IdleOnehitmanWilly: sometimes its like 5th to 1st02:35
hitmanWillyIdleOne, that's windows :)02:35
kubuntu22I'm pretty sure the transmission would explode on that one02:35
IdleOnelol yeah true02:35
JisaoIf I have a feisty fawn beta build 2007-04-08, will I have to upgrade to have it 'released version', or do I just keep updating and it will be OK?02:35
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hitmanWillyor drive to park02:35
IdleOneJisao: updates02:36
Jisaook, tx02:36
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hitmanWillykubuntu22, you may have to reinstall ndiswrapper though02:36
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pyrotix!biab02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about biab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
Jisaoworks well so far, except for serendipidity, which doesn't install properly.02:36
pyrotixserenity = greatest movie of all time02:37
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kubuntu22hitmanWilly: will I need a new version of ndiswrapper, or will my old one suffice02:37
Gh0st75any other intel macbook users here? I was wondering how to enable wireless on it. most searches seem to mention using ndiswrapper but i'm not sure of the syntax or if the files are even on the cd/os02:37
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Gh0st75using feisty02:37
SubOneI have had at least 5 packages just randomly disappear from my system. I know they were installed, but they just suddenly disappeared. How is this possible amd what is a possible fix?02:37
hitmanWillykubuntu22, did you get it from a third party site?02:37
IdleOneSubOne: what packages?02:38
hitmanWillykubuntu22, i can't remember if that ones in the repos or not02:38
SubOneIdleOne: kdebase-dev, kprinter, "firefox java", um....02:38
hitmanWilly!ndiswrapper02:39
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:39
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hitmanWilly!find ndiswrapper02:39
kubuntu22hitmanWilly: I got ndiswrapper from the ubuntu forums02:39
SubOneIdleOne: few others cant remember at the molment02:39
ubotuFound: ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-utils-1.1, ndiswrapper-utils-1.8, ndiswrapper-source (and 8 others)02:39
hitmanWillykubuntu22, ok, forget everything i just said, you're good to go02:39
SubOneIdleOne: kdebase-dev disappeared twice so far02:39
IdleOnewell that is weird02:39
SubOneyeah, i know, its starting to piss me off02:40
kubuntu22hitmanWilly: ok cool, I'll let you know how it goes, at 60% in the distro upgrade02:40
hitmanWillykubuntu22, anything out of the ubuntu repos SHOULD upgrade itself02:40
IdleOneyou upgrade to feisty or something?02:40
SubOneany ideas?02:40
SubOneno02:40
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SubOnenot with my permission anyway02:40
hitmanWillykubuntu22, yeah, takes awhile02:40
IdleOneonly idea is to report a bug about it02:40
familiaall speak english?02:41
IdleOneSubOne: do lsb_release -a what version does it give you02:41
IdleOne!it02:41
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:41
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SubOneedgy02:41
hitmanWillyfamilia, yes this is the english speaking channel02:41
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familiaok thanks02:42
IdleOnewhy does adept want to upgrade gnome update manager? oh because I have gnome installed also02:42
familiaim mexican02:42
hitmanWilly!es | familia02:42
ubotufamilia: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:42
IdleOneintonces02:42
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IdleOneadept is purty :)02:43
IdleOnehehe02:43
hitmanWillyfamilia, or stay here if you want :)02:43
kubuntu22I agree!02:43
SubOnegreat now i forget where the firefox java package is02:43
IdleOne!java02:43
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.02:43
kubuntu22!glx02:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:43
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hitmanWilly!ati | kubuntu2202:44
ubotukubuntu22: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:44
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kubuntu22!nvidia02:44
SubOneso no ideas on disappearing packages?02:44
hitmanWillykubuntu22, the bot is kind of dumb on that one, that tutorial works for both02:44
IdleOneSubOne: first time I hear about something like that02:44
Ace2016How do i edit the partition table? qtparted won't do it for me, i need something command line i gues02:44
Ace2016guess*02:45
kubuntu22hitmanWilly: heh..thanks02:45
SubOneIdleOne: been happening since yesterday02:45
IdleOnetry reporting a bug but see if you cant reproduce what it is that is being done when the packages disappear02:45
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SubOneIdleOne: it seems to be random02:45
IdleOnenothing is random in linux02:46
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familiathank you02:46
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IdleOneaccept for that dice game that supposedly gives random dice numbers02:47
j_rippelHey guys, quick question. I have Windows and Ubuntu installed on two different partitions with a 3rd data partition. I want to reinstall both windows and Kubuntu on their respective partitions, but which should I do first?02:47
IdleOnedont know the name02:47
IdleOnewindows first02:47
robotpokehello02:47
JisaoWindows, j_rippel02:47
j_rippelThanks IdleOne, Jisao!02:48
Gh0st75windows second will screw up grub, so leave lnux til after02:48
robotpokei have a kubuntu box set up to serve webpages.02:48
IdleOnethen ubuntu will install grub to the mbr and handle the boot sequence, windows breaks it02:48
robotpokeon my local nat02:48
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robotpokei can get to the webpages with the local nat address but not from outside my local network.02:48
robotpokei've reset my vonage router to the default settings02:49
robotpokeand i still have the same problem02:49
IdleOnerobotpoke: have you forwarded the ports ?02:49
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robotpokeyep02:49
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robotpokeactually, i set up the kubuntu box to be in teh "DMZ"; my best guess is that my ISP may have changed something.02:49
robotpokeoh yes, i can also ssh into the kubuntu box with no problem02:50
IdleOnegoogle vonage port forwarding might be something your missing. ISP might be blocking so forward 80 to 8080 or something like that02:50
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Marthyrobotpoke: ssh from inside or outside your network?02:50
robotpokeboth ssh'ing inside and outside of my network work.02:51
robotpokeIdleOne: i'm going to try that now02:51
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chemicalvampdanny500 got it yet?02:51
stephane_cppl02:51
IdleOnessh and web use diff ports isp might not block ssh because they assume your a windows user and why would you know about ssh02:52
robotpokethat's what i fear; that they decided to block port 80 now that it has seen a little bit of traffic lately02:52
IdleOnewell just move it02:52
luckyoneany wireless experts in here?02:53
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chemicalvampim no expert but..02:53
chemicalvampwhats wrong?02:53
luckyoneI am following this how to, to no avail...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1409752#post140975202:53
IdleOnerobotpoke: the traffic your site is getting isnt enough to hurt the isp but they sell that service so they cant let you have it free02:53
robotpokeIdleOne: i can move it to another site if necessary but i'd like to know for sure first that it is my ISP.02:54
chemicalvampluckyone yeah dont work for me either02:54
chemicalvampactually it did load02:54
luckyonechemicalvamp: how did you get it to work?02:54
IdleOnerobotpoke: try forwarding 80 to 8080 first see if it works then gimme the url and I'll see if it loads up02:54
chemicalvampwhats your problem? the website or your hardware02:55
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luckyonethe hardware...02:55
luckyonehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=140975202:55
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enderhm...I have some beryl/emerald issue02:56
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Shootfasterender - whats the problem02:56
raylunamely...i have no window decorations at al02:56
raylu*all (I'm ender)02:56
chemicalvampluckyone well heres the how-to, hope it helps http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16036/02:57
Shootfasterraylu - try opening beryl in a termin02:57
IdleOneok just added a Dock application panel and it gave me a panel on the right side of screen but how do I remove it now?02:57
Shootfasterraylu - quit beryl first, then open it in a terminal and tell me the output02:57
IdleOnenm02:58
IdleOnegot it02:58
rayluberyl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 3202:58
Shootfasterah, good old GLXFBConfig02:58
Shootfasteri assume your running nvidia?02:58
rayluberyl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x32001d4 to texture02:58
rayluYes02:58
Shootfastertry sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals02:59
Shootfasterthen press ctrl-alt-backspace02:59
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luckyonechemicalvamp: thanks for that, I could read the howto, it was just following it that didn't work03:02
robotpokehotdamn, that was it IdleOne03:02
robotpokegood thinking03:02
chemicalvampluckyone >.< sorry i thought you meant that the link was broken or something03:02
robotpokei'm able to get to the site fine using port 8889 from a remote computer03:02
IdleOnerobotpoke: glad I could help03:03
luckyonechemicalvamp: sadly, no... I wish that was the problem... I can't get my dang wireless card to associate03:03
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chemicalvampluckyone on feisty03:05
chemicalvamp?03:05
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luckyonechemicalvamp: yes03:07
chemicalvampim having the same problem03:07
chemicalvampyou like how lspci in edgy doesnt know what kinda card you have.. BUT feisty does.. and it only works on edgy?03:08
Shootfasteri get that too :P03:08
chemicalvampmany many people do03:09
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chemicalvampluckyone your lucky to have a wired connection03:11
chemicalvampi have to boot a live cd to get online03:11
chemicalvampand chrooted (and much much more) to update while in live cd to update, which didnt work03:12
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Ace2016hi all03:15
Ace2016any command i can run to see all mounted partitions and their mount points?03:15
chemicalvampfdisk -l03:16
chemicalvampthats an L03:16
Ace2016that doesn't shot the mount points03:17
Ace2016show*03:18
IdleOneok think Im ready to remove gnome. how do I do that?03:18
IdleOnedo i want to do that?03:18
Ace2016gnome installs a lot of stuff03:19
Ace2016DON'T TRY THIS,, but just wondering, would removing libgnome-2.0 cause the whole of gnome to be removed???03:21
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ShootfasterAce2016 - try it in synaptic, just see what it wants to remove then DONT COMMIT!03:24
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chemicalvampwhats the command to change permissions?03:25
chemicalvampof a certain folder03:27
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Ace2016Shootfaster: i tried, it didn't want to remove anything else, it only removed libgnome-2.0, the only reason i had it installed was to cover all the deps for compiling qtcurve-gtk2, thought it might need libgnome2-dev or something03:29
Ace2016chemicalvamp: chmod03:29
chemicalvamptoo late, i sudo mv one of my folders03:30
pyrotix!pastebin03:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:31
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hitmanWillyIdleOne, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop03:32
hitmanWillyIdleOne, then sudo apt-get autoremove03:32
hitmanWillyIdleOne, anything installed manually will keep all its dependencies03:33
chemicalvamphow do you sudo mv a folder?03:34
Shootfastersudo mv /folder/to/move /location/for/folder03:35
chemicalvampi tried that03:35
IdleOneAfter unpacking 4796kB disk space will be freed. was hoping to free more space03:35
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Shootfasterwhat does it say?03:35
hitmanWillyIdleOne, wait till you do the autoremove03:35
chemicalvampmv: cannot stat `/home/ubuntu/desktop/driver': No such file or directory03:36
IdleOnehitmanWilly: that is after doing autoremove ubuntu-desktop was already removed03:36
Shootfasteris there a folder called /home/ubuntu/desktop/driver?03:36
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hitmanWillyIdleOne, try sudo apt-cache clean03:37
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chemicalvampShootfaster case sensitive is it?03:37
hitmanWillyIdleOne, try sudo apt-get clean03:38
hitmanWillyIdleOne, the second one i said:)03:38
Shootfasterdefinitely case sensitive03:38
IdleOnewill try soon as autoremove is done03:38
Shootfasterpress tab to complete it for you03:38
hitmanWillyIdleOne, that cleans out the locally stored deb pkgs apt downloaded03:39
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IdleOnehitmanWilly: apt-get clean just returns a prompt03:41
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IdleOnegot to go. good night03:41
IdleOnethank you  hitmanWilly03:41
hitmanWillyIdleOne, no error msg means it worked03:41
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dsmith_clean, does what?03:41
dsmith_I use autoremove03:42
kellenhello03:42
hitmanWillydsmith_, clean removes the actual debs that apt downloads03:42
dsmith_kellen: hello03:42
dsmith_ahhh ok03:43
dsmith_i cannot install beryl for some reason03:43
dsmith_wont download03:43
kellenI have a problem03:43
hitmanWillydsmith_, what version?03:43
hitmanWillydsmith_, of ubu03:43
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dsmith_edgy03:44
dsmith_repos not picking it up, after I update the source03:44
hitmanWillydsmith_, you're not trying to get it using apt are you?03:44
kellenEverytime I install all upgrades in 7.04 my card reader in my laptop quits working03:44
dsmith_yes, why03:44
hitmanWillydsmith_, feisty is the only one with beryl in the repos03:44
dsmith_ack03:44
dsmith_ no wonder03:44
dsmith_out dated websites!03:45
hitmanWilly:)03:45
dsmith_i thought I was losing my mind, haha03:45
hitmanWillydsmith_, if you really want to, go to beryl.org and get it from there03:46
dsmith_i am :)03:46
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chemicalvampany usefull commands anyone here knows? before i try this again?03:47
chemicalvampim trying to fix my wireless driver03:47
mcinganWhat is it doing>03:47
mcingan?03:47
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chemicalvampi hae to boot my feisty install before i can figure tht out03:47
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kellendoes anybody have an idea of which package could be screwing up my card reader?03:49
naught101anyone know of a GUI PHP beautifier/tidy app, or script?03:50
kellenok, guess not03:52
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naught101kellen: try installing upgrades on at a time?03:53
naught101one03:53
mcinganOh yeah I came in here because I had a question03:53
Shootfasterkellen, what brand of card reader?03:53
ShootfasterUSB or PCI03:53
hitmanWillyok, heres a question...03:54
mcingananyone know how I can update my bios? I tried the win 98 boot disk way but it told me the the program can not be ran in dos03:54
hitmanWillydoes anyone know of a good email client (gui) that uses the standard unix mail system?03:55
hitmanWillyhitmanWilly, and preferably one that i don't have to hand confgiure sendmail for :)03:55
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kellenit is a ricoh03:56
kellenbuilt into a Lenovo N100 laptop03:56
kellenI just found a couple posts on the ubuntu forums of people with the same problem03:57
kellenit appears there's no fix as of yet03:57
kellensomebody suggested that it's a result of upgrading the kernel03:57
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Shootfasterkellen - ok, that sucks :(04:02
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Shootfasterif its any consolation, my card reader doesnt work either :P04:02
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polly1Hello04:06
Shootfasterhello04:07
polly1I'm on my uncles computer and the thing is crawling at a snails pace (internet connection that is) any idea what could be causing it to be so slow?04:07
polly1It is a cable modem connection.04:07
Shootfasterwhat version of ubnutu04:07
polly16.1004:07
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Shootfasterclick ctrl esc and see what processes are running04:08
TheDebuggerpolly1: I had a similar problem before, it was that ubuntu used the wireless connection from the neighbours instead of my own wired connection :P04:09
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Shootfaster:P04:09
polly1Could someone have hacked into this computer?  Is there a  /etc/rc.firewall  by default?04:09
Shootfasteryes its possible, but unlikely04:09
hitmanWillypolly1, not on my system04:10
polly1It is not a wireless network.04:10
polly1hitmanWilly: Ok.  Thank you.04:10
hitmanWillypolly1, then again, feisty04:10
hitmanWillypolly1, *i use04:10
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hitmanWillypolly1, so your results may vary04:11
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polly1hitmanWilly: Ok04:12
polly1hitmanWilly: Thank you.04:12
polly1The connection was working fine about a week ago when I installed the software.04:12
polly1Someone might have gotten in...04:13
hitmanWillypolly1, maybe...04:13
polly1I just installed the firewall and set it up and things are working.04:13
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hitmanWillypolly1, any strange looking proc's?04:14
polly1hitmanWilly: How could I tell?  I am on ubuntu I usually use kde.04:14
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polly1hitmanWilly: Is there a terminal command?04:14
hitmanWillypolly1, like an ftp server or p2p client?04:15
timothyhey, in kig, how do I find the coordinates of a point?04:15
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timothyor is there a better geometrical program I should be using?04:15
polly1How do I bring up the list of running proccesses?04:15
polly1From terminal mode again?04:15
timothypolly1: top04:15
timothyat the terminal yes04:15
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polly1Does it keep a list of connections in any log files?04:16
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polly1After I installed guarddog it was setting up and said: Unable to start guarddog firewall - /etc/rc.firewall does not exist04:17
polly1No one else has a rc.firewall though right?04:17
timothyI kinda just walked in, so I can't answer that without knowing: connections to what, and ect04:17
timothyI don04:17
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timothy't have a firewall :{04:17
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hitmanWillypolly1, /var/log/auth.log is where authentication info is stored, check there first for anything weird looking04:19
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hitmanWillypolly1, ie a LOT of failed attempts followed immediately by root access04:19
hitmanWillypolly1, or something similar04:20
hitmanWillypolly1, system logs are all stored at /var/log/04:21
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polly1Is there a log of connections from outside?04:25
polly1Or login attempts? or was that the first one you suggested?04:25
polly1Apr 11 14:17:01 family-desktop CRON[7055] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0)04:26
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polly1Is there a uid=0 by default?04:26
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hitmanWillypolly1, single digit uid's are all system proc's04:26
polly1Ok04:27
hitmanWillypolly1, iirc04:27
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ubuntuyay04:28
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chemicalvampit didnt work!04:28
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flaccidchemicalvamp: count to 12432 and try again04:29
flaccid:p04:29
polly1Apr 14 10:43:45 family-desktop su[1596] : Successful su for family by root04:29
chemicalvampanybody know how to install a rt8180 based wireless card in feisty?04:29
peepsaloti installed kubuntu on top of ubunut/gnome and now I cannot get audio to work04:29
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, in hex04:29
polly1Is that someone suing on the system?04:30
chemicalvampsure wheres the how-to04:30
peepsaloti have a volume control, but it says no devices exist04:30
hitmanWillypolly1, if someones su's it'll show up as just that04:30
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flaccidpolly1: looks like it04:30
polly1hitmanWilly: Someone must have been in this box.04:30
polly1hitmanWilly: My uncle would have no idea what a SU would be.04:31
chemicalvamphitmanWilly where is the how-to04:31
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, how-to for...?04:31
chemicalvampmicalvamp, in hex04:32
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hitmanWillychemicalvamp, that was just a joke in reference to the "count to 12432" comment04:33
chemicalvampohh04:33
hitmanWillyand it fell flat it seems04:33
hitmanWilly:)04:33
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hitmanWillypolly1, is ssh enabled?04:34
polly1hitmanWilly: I have no idea.04:34
flaccidnetstat -an04:34
flaccidoops04:34
polly1hitmanWilly: I'm just a little over 30 days into using linux myself.04:34
flaccidnetstat -an | grep 2204:34
hitmanWillypolly1, if you suspect an attack, first thing to do is lock down that and telnet04:34
flaccidsee if its listening04:34
flaccidtelnet?04:35
flaccidfirst thing to do is change password for family and root users!04:35
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polly1hitmanWilly: I'm going to wipe the system clean in the moring and install feisty fresh.04:35
hitmanWillyflaccid, well, that goes without saying04:35
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polly1hitmanWilly: And make sure I set things up a little better.  Make sure my uncle uses a harder password.04:36
chemicalvampman who do you gotta {insert verb here} to get my bug fixed04:36
flaccidpolly1: ok i guess thats your choice then.. just use secure/sensible/longish passwords and you'll be cool.04:36
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hitmanWillypolly1, remind him drowssap is NOT an acceptible password :)04:36
flaccidchemicalvamp: link me to the bug pls04:36
polly1hitmanWilly: A combination with numbers and letters at the very least.04:37
chemicalvampflaccid its hardware related, in feisty04:37
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polly1hitmanWilly: Is there a way to see if this thing is spitting out packets to anywhere?04:38
polly1Also is there a command to see what names/passwords can log in?04:38
flaccidchemicalvamp: link me to the bug pls04:38
hitmanWillypolly1, yes, but i forget the cmd off the top of my head...hold on04:39
chemicalvampam'04:39
hitmanWillypolly1, netstat will show you most of that stuff04:39
hitmanWillypolly1, at least the open ports04:40
chemicalvamphow do you get to you submission on launchpad?04:40
hitmanWillybrb04:40
polly1hitmanWilly: Are unix 2,3,5 normal things to show up?04:40
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polly1hitmanWilly: I have a ton of Active UNIX domain sockets (w/o servers)04:41
flaccidchemicalvamp: search i guess04:41
flaccid[12:34]  <flaccid> netstat -an | grep 2204:41
flaccidnetstat -a | grep -i tcp | grep -i listen04:41
flaccidis another one04:42
flaccidnetstat -an | grep -i tcp | grep -i listen | grep 2204:42
flaccidexamples ^^04:42
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polly1BRB04:43
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flaccidand /etc/init.d/ssh stop to stop sshd04:43
peepsalotcan anyone help me troubleshoot my sound?04:44
peepsaloti cannot get any audio.  i used to work.  not sure what happened04:45
hitmanWillyback04:45
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frank227aHello04:46
chemicalvampflaccid i cant find it, but i can remember it pretty much.. lshw says -network is UNCLAIMED, lspci displays the correct information about it, ifconfig does not display wlan0, wlassistant says: no devices found04:46
Cosmo_gDesklets is stuck on loading up and I can't seem to close it, any ideas on how toclose it?04:46
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chemicalvampflaccid i used nsiwrapper to install the correct windows driver, and it still says all that04:48
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fergerhello04:50
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flaccidchemicalvamp: can't see how long to fix the bug without a bug on launchpad04:50
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scrubb2000hitmanwilly, I'm baaack...=P04:51
fergercan you play the same games on gnome on kde?04:51
scrubb2000ferger, kde and gnome should be able to run all the same applications...even each other's.04:52
chemicalvampflaccid i submitted it, i just cant find it04:52
flaccidchemicalvamp: ok. when you find it, you can check the progress :)04:52
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Psiuyo__What's the best way to connect to a pptp vpn with kubuntu?  I saw network-manager-pptp but that wants a bunch of gnome packages, there must be a better way....04:54
chemicalvampit would be nice if launchpad had a "my bugs" area04:55
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, any luck?04:55
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scrubb2000hitmanwilly, no.  And there's more weirdness.04:58
scrubb2000Firestarter doesn't seem to be installed.04:58
scrubb2000And dpkg says dhclient isn't installed, so it can't reconfigure...04:58
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hitmanWillyscrubb2000, install it! dhclient i mean04:59
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, use apt to do it anyway04:59
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, how do I do that with no internet connection?  Should it be on the DVD?05:00
Cosmo_what does katapault do?05:00
jtti have a multi speed 3d940 Network card  it loads the  skge driver. i know the  PCI address. Can anyone tell me how to determine what speed was negotiated with my linksys router05:00
jtt3d=3c05:00
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ksnipaz2I was wondering if anyone knew of any program that could download mms streams?05:02
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hitmanWillyscrubb2000, ok, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager05:03
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hitmanWillyscrubb2000, dhclient isn't its own package, sorry05:03
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, my mistake05:03
chemicalvampflaccid, i found my bug report05:04
scrubb2000ah ha05:05
peepsaloti can't find settings for these crazy KDE sounds on minimize/maximize, etc.05:05
flaccid!pptp05:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, is there a tool I can use to check that linux really is using my network adaptor?  Since I can't ping out to anything, I can't tell if it's working or not.05:06
flaccid!vpn05:06
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD05:06
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, ifconfig, which shows both of them up05:06
flaccidPsiuyo__: ^^ pptpd05:07
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, just not connecting to anything05:07
flaccidscrubb2000: whats the problem exactly?05:07
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, I can't seem to grab an IP from my router.05:07
flaccidwhat is the name of your ethernet device?05:08
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, but it works fine in XP.05:08
flaccidscrubb2000 ?05:08
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scrubb2000flaccid, ehh, eth0 and eth1.  THey're nvidia gigabit lan controllers on an nforce 680i SLI board.05:08
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hitmanWillyflaccid, it's a marvell yukon chipset05:09
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, is it for sure?05:09
scrubb2000I only remember seeing that somewhere...I couldn't find it written in the manual.05:09
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, what is the exact name of your mobo?05:10
scrubb2000Asus P5N32-E SLI05:10
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flaccidscrubb2000: so which one is connected to the LAN that needs the dhcp addresses?05:10
scrubb2000flaccid, I don't really care...but I have the cable plugged into eth0.  Linux sees it, and ifconfig shows it as being "up" but dhclient can't get an IP from my router.05:11
flaccidok05:11
scrubb2000I wonder if there are any known incompatibilities with linux and my netgear router.05:11
flaccidso can you please pastebin the output of sudo dhclient eth005:11
flaccidbest to find out why first..05:12
flaccidand there are no incompatibilities. both should follow the dhc protocol05:12
scrubb2000!pastebin05:12
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:12
scrubb2000http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16053/05:12
scrubb2000flaccid, this is for dhclient with no args.05:13
flaccidi dont' want that05:13
flaccidalso pastebine the output of ifconfig -a05:13
scrubb2000Well too bad cause I have to reboot to do it again. =P05:13
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scrubb2000I have that one too...05:13
flaccidwhy do you need to reboot05:13
flaccidwtf05:14
scrubb2000Dual-boot...I'm in XP right now.05:14
hitmanWillyflaccid, he's on dual boot05:14
flaccidright05:14
flaccidwell i need it05:14
flaccidto confirm stuff05:14
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flaccidi would also recommend removing *network*manager*.deb05:14
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scrubb2000flaccid, here's ifconfig -a: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16054/05:15
flaccidbecause networkmanager is shite and it was always not working - putting the iface up but not running dhcp05:15
flaccidand status of networkmanager?05:15
scrubb2000I don't have that right now.05:15
flaccidah well05:16
scrubb2000sorry05:16
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, if its a default install, its probably on there05:16
dsmith__how large is fiesty to download?05:16
flaccidwell just fyi networkmanager was doing no dhcp for me05:16
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flaccidon both edgy and dapper05:16
scrubb2000hmm05:16
flaccidand feisty05:16
flaccidso i removed05:16
flaccidi see no need for networkmanager05:17
scrubb2000flaccid, is dhclient part of network manager?05:17
flaccidi don't knwo what its point is05:17
flaccidscrubb2000: no its not05:17
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, no its seperate05:17
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flaccid!networkmanager05:17
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager05:17
flaccid!find networkmanager05:17
ubotuFound: knetworkmanager05:17
flaccid!info networkmanager05:17
ubotuPackage networkmanager does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:17
scrubb2000I was running dhclient from konsole...that's what the first pastebin was from.05:17
flaccid!info network-manager05:17
cblack0 can someone point me to some docs/wiki/whatever on using adept to do a simple update of only already installed progs? or just info on adept and what all these checkboxes and buttons mean?05:17
ubotunetwork-manager: network management framework daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 222 kB, installed size 540 kB05:17
hitmanWilly!network-manager05:17
hitmanWillydang05:18
cblack0I am trying to UPDATE only ALREADY INSTALLED packages (not install anything new)05:18
flaccidits optional but it seems to not be for some reason probably because of knetworkmanager05:18
hitmanWillycblack0, in konsole sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade05:18
flaccidscrubb2000: need this additional information plus removal of networkmanager plus pastebin of /etc/network/interfaces... otherwise i can't troubleshoot further.05:19
cblack0doesn't upgrade actually upgrade (move to new version?) working on understanding difference between update and upgrade05:19
hitmanWillycblack0, that will update everything that's currently installed05:19
cblack0also, I want to learn adept05:19
flaccid!adept > cblack005:19
flaccid!repos > cblack005:19
hitmanWillycblack0, kdesu adept_updater05:19
flaccidupdate gets list of updates. upgrade does the updates.05:19
hitmanWillycblack0, that will open the adept version05:20
scrubb2000flaccid, OK.  Gimme a few minutes to get that stuff.05:20
flaccidthanks05:20
scrubb2000Oh, but first I have a question...how do I browse / in konqueror?05:20
cblack0ok, so adept is the full package manager, and adept_updater limits to just updates... sounds good05:20
cblack0flaccid: thanks05:20
flaccidscrubb2000: file manager profile from menu05:20
flaccidcblack0: pretty much :)05:21
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cblack0!adept05:22
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto05:22
scrubb2000Anything else I should log or try while I'm in there?05:22
mikessfrostwire05:22
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flaccidscrubb2000: you could set it on a static ip address to confirm that its not another issue - that the network works when given the right addresses05:23
cblack0I'm new to apt but a longtime linux user (coming from slackware,redhat,suse). any great apt resources I should be looking at?05:23
cblack0seems easier to get answers in here than ubuntu, that channel is busy as hell05:23
Dr_willis!apt05:23
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:23
Dr_willisapt is rather complex in ways. :) but the basics are easy to get down.05:24
Dr_willisthat apt-get howto is worth reading and the official apt docs as well.05:24
cblack0I'm on it. thanks05:24
scrubb2000flaccid, what's the command to do that?05:24
Dr_willisthen theres a LOT of apt- related commands that do all sorts of neat things as well.05:24
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Dr_willis!info apt-file05:24
ubotuapt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB05:24
hitmanWillycblack0, coming from those other distros, you're going to love it, trust me :)05:24
Dr_willisthats one of my faves :)05:24
cblack0hitmanWilly: seems like it05:25
flaccidscrubb2000: its not a command. you edit /etc/network/interfaces to use static instead of dhcp05:25
cblack0we are thinking of moving our devel workstations to ubuntu...05:25
hitmanWillycblack0, rpm's gave me all sorts of dependency problems all the time05:25
scrubb2000flaccid, then use ifconfig to restart eth0?05:25
kalorin_anyone else think kritta sucks05:25
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Dr_willisI dont think thers a package management system that dosent have some problems. :) be it rpm based or others...05:26
kalorin_I've seen the thing crash opening a .jpg file tonight like 5 times05:26
flaccidim on a ubuntu workstation at work atm.05:26
cblack0I need to find a way to prevent a small list of packages from being updated when users run update. I don't know if I need to run a full mirror of a repo or I can just have a policy somewhere that says "java, ant and junit can only be updated to the versions specified here"05:26
flaccidwell kubuntu05:26
hitmanWillytrue enough05:26
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cblack0I think that /might/ be "apt pinning"05:26
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Dr_williscblack0,  i think that sounds right. ive never used it.. just seen it mentioned in the apt docs befor05:27
scrubb2000alright, I'll be back in a little while.05:27
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mikessWhere the hell is feisty??05:28
mikesscmon ladies05:28
mikesshehe05:28
Dr_williswhen its done. :)05:28
DaSkreech!feisty > mikess05:29
Dr_willisim using it now however. heh05:29
hitmanWillymikess, in beta05:29
mikessI have both installed  and running well05:29
DaSkreechor the 19th whichever comes first05:29
mikessInstalled ubuntu 1st then sudo apt-get install kubuntu05:29
mikessgoing well with updates05:30
Dr_williskubuntu-desktop  is proberly wath you want to install.05:30
Dr_willisI tend to install both ubuntu+kubuntu desktops as well05:30
mikessI like both 50/5005:30
hitmanWillyhonestly, i can't stand gnome05:30
Dr_willisthers some gnome apps/tools i perfer to the kde equilivents05:30
mikessi must be the only one in the world that likes both05:31
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mikessi=I05:31
hitmanWillywell, yes to that, but gnome itself just annoys me for some reason05:31
DaSkreechmikess: yeah that must be true05:31
bill_real quick: wha's the command to install mp3 support for amaroK05:31
flaccidi keep gnome handy, but dont' use it05:31
cblack0!mp305:31
bill_wait, I'll answer my own question05:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:31
bill_!mp305:31
DaSkreech!mp3 > bill_05:31
slestakhow do I uninstall the older kernel and module packages in kubuntu?  I have about 7 in grub now...05:32
cblack0see, I'm catching on to this ubuntu stuff already :)05:32
bill_lol, so am I05:32
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cblack0only been installed an hour or so but I'm looking forward to getting into it05:32
Dr_willisslestak,  you could just edit the grub menu to only show the latest 2 or so :)05:32
bill_well, I just reinstalled05:32
bill_so I forgot how to do the mp3 enable05:32
cblack0sadly, I don't think we'll ever run it on our servers. Not until ISVs start supporting it and/or there is a much bigger QA dept or something05:32
hitmanWillyi like to keep a couple as backups, just in case :)05:33
slestakDr_willis: i thought abt that, but do I still have the 30-40M for each release's packages installed.  The kernel modules packages are quite large05:33
Dr_willisslestak,  they are? never noticed.05:33
slestakDr_willis: i dl them over a slow link, so yes, they are large :)05:34
hitmanWillyDr_willis, yeah, they are big, but it is a generic kernel05:34
slestakid like to keep maybe the last two kernel packages, but dont need the cruft of kernels im never gonna boot again05:35
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DaSkreechcblack0: there is corporate support05:35
cblack0DaSkreech: corporate support != easily installable agents available for enterprise backup (for example)05:35
DaSkreech!backup05:36
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning05:36
cblack0not to mention they don't have much of a record for QA yet. We shall see.05:36
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hitmanWillyslestak, you can pull them off with apt, linux-image-<kernel version>-<release version>-generic05:36
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cblack0DaSkreech: there is no way we are having a separate backup for ubuntu systems that doesn't also integrate our windows servers, offsite rotation, and oracle05:36
nu-Anyone know how to change my irc password?05:37
DaSkreech!password05:37
ubotuForgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords05:37
cblack0I respect ubuntu and like it, but I've been using linux in companies for awhile, and ubuntu isn't ready.05:37
DaSkreechOh wait05:37
nu-...05:37
DaSkreech!register05:37
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration05:37
nu-thank you05:37
hitmanWillyslestak i.e. sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic05:37
cblack0here is a good example, our SAN vendor isn't even THINKING about adding ubuntu to their compatibility matrix05:37
kalorin_cblack0: I agree but only because things like oracle say they wouldn't support it05:37
kalorin_same deal with debian05:37
cblack0exactly05:37
kalorin_I personally think it's pefectly ready05:37
kalorin_but you can't convince someone that it is until someone like oracle says they'll support it05:38
cblack0technically MAYBE, but all the other stuff isn't ready05:38
kalorin_what we do, is we just make an /etc/redhat-release file and pop it out there05:38
kalorin_and poof, we're running redhat for support purposes05:38
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cblack0I also haven't seen a lot of SAN/multipath install info05:38
flaccidcblack0: what in particular is not ready05:38
kalorin_cblack0: the real thing that these companies should be saying they support is Version X of the kernel, and VERSION Z of the glibc stuff or whatever05:39
kalorin_other than that, nothing really matters  which package manager you use or what it's called05:39
cblack0flaccid: not sure yet, but I don't have as much faith in ubuntu's testing on stuff like FC SANs and multipath for instance.05:39
kalorin_it's all stupid to even argue about, I like my saturn you drive a jeep, mines better, no mine is05:39
kalorin_who cars05:39
kalorin_who cares05:39
bill_ok05:39
cblack0kalorin_: agreed. I would REALLY like to see LSB really be used/supported, but it isn't :(05:39
bill_here is a BIG question05:39
flaccidso there is no reason basically considering it uses packages from debian upstream05:39
kalorin_what's a FC SAN's?05:40
bill_I am installing the mp3 support05:40
cblack0fibre channel05:40
kalorin_our san at work just had an RPM I had to install05:40
bill_I have universe and multiverse ON05:40
flaccidits gnu linux... so um yeah05:40
bill_and it tells me there are unmet dependencies05:40
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bill_it tell me to use "apt-get -f install"05:40
bill_however, last time I did that, it wiped my system05:40
kalorin_an that was a total pain in the ass because it required this exact version of the kernel 2.6.12-14 not -13 mind you, -1405:40
kalorin_it was a pain05:40
cblack0multipath is when the system has more than one path to the san and the kernel somehow needs to know that when it sees things twice, they aren't really two devices/LUNs05:40
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kalorin_otherwise it was just a kernel module05:40
kalorin_cblack0: that's all kernel level stuff05:40
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kalorin_doesn't matter what distribution05:41
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flaccidexactly05:41
cblack0kalorin_: most enterprise distros HEAVILY test and modify that stuff it seems05:41
flaccidconsidering ubuntu uses recent kernels, i'm sure it meats the reqs.05:41
kalorin_either the kernel does it or it doesn't, doesn't matter if the kernel came from a rpm or a debian package on install05:41
flaccidcblack0: if you want something more stable, use debian05:41
scrubb2000flaccid, here's my interfaces file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16061/05:41
kalorin_meEts them too :)05:41
scrubb2000flaccid, dpkg says network-manager is not installed.05:41
cblack0look, I'm not saying I'm sure ubuntu isn't ready, I am just saying I don't have the faith in it yet. And that part is moot anyway as until our enterprise backup software installs and is supported we are unlikely to use it05:42
kalorin_I'm running kubuntu on my new desktop at work05:42
flaccidscrubb2000: dpkg -l | grep -i manager | grep -i network <-- anything?05:42
kalorin_we have Redhat EL 3, EL 4, and debian sarge boxes at work05:42
cblack0yep, we are likely to go to ubuntu for developers workstations05:42
kalorin_that we use HEAVILY05:42
kalorin_running a multibillion $ student loan stuff on it05:42
flaccidcblack0: thats fine, because i don't have faith in it as a server either.05:43
kalorin_oracle, informatica, cognos05:43
kalorin_ou name it05:43
scrubb2000flaccid, I typed dpkg -r network-manager05:43
scrubb2000and it said not installed.05:43
scrubb2000Didn't show up in adept either.05:43
kalorin_all linux of various distributions, they're now pushing to go to centos05:43
flaccidscrubb2000: ok np05:43
DaSkreechbill_: What has unmet dependices?05:43
kalorin_flaccid, I haven't tried a server install yet, but next iteration of my server here at home will get ubuntu without a doubt05:43
kalorin_it's running debian sarge right now05:44
kalorin_which is basically the same thing considering it doesn't run X05:44
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flaccidyep05:44
flaccidi set up a debian server next to me here at work05:44
flaccidjust for printing and wireless node of the network05:44
flacciddebian is more stable than ubuntu thats for sure05:45
bill_ok, I just ran the command it it fixed it05:45
bill_just last time I did, it removed all of my packages05:45
flaccidscrubb2000: do you want me to show you how to do static ip?05:45
scrubb2000flaccid, sure.05:45
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kalorin_flaccid05:45
kalorin_how can you say that?05:46
flaccidok05:46
kalorin_kernel 2.6.whatever is the same on either05:46
kalorin_libs are the same05:46
kalorin_hell they use the same packages05:46
flaccidum no05:46
flaccidits older and dif packages05:46
hitmanWillykalorin_, ubuntu comes off the sid branch05:46
flaccida lot of packages from debian upstream are changed for ubuntu which is why they become ubuntu packages05:46
hitmanWillykalorin_, not the stable one05:46
wolferineanyone use Smarty with PHP ?05:47
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kalorin_the only thing with this kubuntu box that I've noticed that's unstable is the way that it supports the ATI drivers under X05:47
flaccidwolferine: i prefer TBS :005:47
kalorin_interesting, I didn't realize it was different at all05:47
wolferinelet me look that up05:47
cblack0what is the QA team like for ubuntu? is there a paid testing team that checks all the changes/updates to debian upstream packages before they get added to the repo for the stable version?05:47
martallikalorin_: Although the issue is really more of how ATI supports linux :=(05:47
kalorin_stability for me I've only noticed as an issue honestly when looking at software running on it that shouldn't like yahoo messenger and krita05:47
cblack0kalorin_: yeah, it is an ATI problem more than anything else05:48
wolferineflaccid, but have you used Smarty before?05:48
cblack0I have some odd hiccups on my dual-head ati machine at work05:48
kalorin_it seems to work fine if you fiddle iwth it long enough05:48
flaccidwolferine: only briefly long time ago, i can't really help05:48
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kalorin_not sure what I did to make it work, but multihead on an x700 with a vga port and a DVI port and putting two screens side by side is a pain05:48
wolferinewasnt looking for help, just opinions05:48
kalorin_when X starts I have to go in nad tell it every time to strech the desktop and use xset to set DPMS settings05:49
kalorin_other than that it's solid05:49
flaccidkalorin_: also the defaults for userland etc. are dif on debian. the runtime config is vastly different05:49
cblack0I used the ati-provided setup tool with some args and got something that sticks. I have some odd flickers sometimes tho05:49
scrubb2000flaccid, I need to go soon...05:49
flaccidscrubb2000: and i need a million dollars. give me 1 min05:49
scrubb2000lol05:49
hitmanWillybrb05:50
flaccidstatic ip for eth0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16062/05:50
DaSkreech!torrent05:50
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html05:50
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scrubb2000flaccid, ok thanks.  I'm going to go try it.05:51
cedrosshello there05:51
flaccidok05:51
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cedrosscan someone answer a question for me05:52
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DaSkreech!anyone05:52
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:52
flaccid!ask05:52
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:52
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cedrosshow do I change the default program to open a certain type of file05:53
flaccidcedross: goto konqueror -> configure konq -> file associations05:53
flaccidin the settings menu05:53
nonudahow do i fix my dual boot, winblodze can't boot but kubuntu boots fine...05:54
DaSkreech!default05:54
ubotuTo change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"05:54
cedrossI tried to change the default .torrent program from Ktorrent to Azureus but it didn't  work it still opens with Ktorrnet05:54
cedrossThat is where I tried to make the change05:55
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flaccidwhat program are you opening the file from?05:55
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DaSkreechI'm betting firefox05:56
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flaccidwhy does the firefox download manager open not work? hasn't worked on like dapper, edgy and feisty for me05:56
flaccidquite ghey05:56
cedrossyes - firefox05:57
flaccidnothing happens when i click open or open folder05:57
flaccidhow does firefox use associations, coz i don't know how to set them myself..05:57
Shootfasti get that too05:57
flaccidits quite annoying and unacceptable!05:57
cedrossI guess I could just go to the site with Konqueror05:57
nonuda!grub05:58
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:58
cblack0!java05:58
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:58
bobstroerm... after i told it to use ktorrent, it did.05:58
bobstroin firefox, tell it to use Other... and navigate to it.05:59
bobstroisn't that working for you guys?06:00
flaccidwhere is this in firefox06:00
bobstrowhen you click something to download, it asks you what app to open it in, right?06:00
bobstro(e.g. click on a torrent)06:00
hitmanWillyflaccid, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16063/06:00
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bobstroflaccid: i just re-tested. it's pretty straightforward.06:01
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flaccidnot in firefox. nothing happens for me06:01
bobstroerm. something's broken in firefox then.06:01
bobstroyou don't get anything?06:01
flaccidbut why do you have to set any associations06:01
bobstroyou don't. it uses a default, but you may want to change it.06:02
flaccidhow can you get it to use the system instead or act with a prompt like opera does06:02
bobstroout of the box, it all works fine.06:02
bobstroit normally does. yours sounds broken.06:02
flaccidno it doesnt06:02
flaccidlike i said it didn't for me on 3 releases of ubuntu06:02
flaccida lot of peoples is broken06:02
flacciddownload actions in firefox has no add button or default06:02
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bobstrono problems here since firefox pre-1.0.06:02
flaccidand that doesn't fix the open folder either06:03
nu-where do i change themes in kubuntu?06:03
bobstrodoes it open anything at all?06:03
flaccidbobstro: the rest of the world does not use your installation..06:03
bill_ok, how do I convert rpm to deb?06:03
flaccidno it doesnt06:03
bobstroflaccid: nor yours, my friend.06:03
cedrossI got it thanks for the help06:03
cblack0bill_: alien maybe? idunno how well it works06:03
flaccidthen saying yours works its pointless...06:03
bobstroflaccid: i'll be happy to try to help if you quit acting like i'm the one f'ed up. mine works.06:03
flaccidyes but several other users have this same problem06:03
flaccidbobstro: im not acting like anything06:04
bobstroflaccid: so quit arguing with me and allow me to help. otherwise, i truly don't give a shit.06:04
bobstroflaccid: ok, have fun.06:04
flaccidforget about it, you can't fix it so no point in talking about it06:04
bill_!alien06:04
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)06:04
flaccidfuck off bobstro06:04
bobstroflaccid: yup, i'm just imagining that mine works.06:04
cblack0wow, what did I miss? :)06:04
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bobstroflaccid: that it opens ktorrent or whatever.06:04
bobstroflaccid: so fuck you too.06:04
flaccidbobstro: i'll leave you to help all the people in need06:05
flaccidcya06:05
flaccidbye all!06:05
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bobstrotscheuss06:05
nu-where do i change themes in kubuntu?06:05
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pollyoHello06:05
pollyoI'm going to install 7.04 beta on my uncles computer in the morning.06:05
hitmanWillypollyo, did you ever figure out what was up?06:06
pollyohitmanWilly: I think someone got in.06:06
nu-pollyo: just wait 3 days till final releave comes out =] 06:06
pollyonu-: The latest beta is just about the final package.06:06
nu-minus all the 500 updates06:07
cblack0I just installed beta tonight, heh06:07
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pollyonu-: I believe it is going to autoupdate automatically anyway.06:07
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nu-it does06:07
nu-but takes a while =[06:07
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flaccidfor anyone interested: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/43238 and there are similar ones as well. work needs to be done to fix firefox/use kfmclient exec06:07
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pollyonu-: It will be alot easier then upgrading from 6.10 anyway.  In addition it needs to be done ASAP06:07
bill_how do I compile a tar.gz?06:07
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nu-pollyo: okies06:08
bill_yes, I know that there are files inside of it and that it is just like a zip file06:08
nu-id like to know where to change themes in KDE06:08
bill_but that doesnt answer my question06:08
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pollyohitmanWilly: His login password...was the same as the machine name.06:08
hitmanWillypollyo, PEBKAC06:08
pollyohitmanWilly: PEBKAC?06:08
cblack0bill_: usually: tar zxvf file.tar.gz; cd newlyMadeDir; ./configure; make; sudo make install06:08
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hitmanWillypollyo, problem exists between keyboard and chair06:09
TonyTone17Kubuntu 6.10 live cd freezes while starting up and I can't get it booted. Can anyone help me?06:09
pollyohitmanWilly: LOL06:09
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Shootfastbill, untar the file to a folder06:09
pollyoIf only I could figure out how to get his printer working,,,, Lexmark X6170 (#@#$@ Lexmark!)06:10
bill_k06:10
nu-where do i change themes in kubuntu?06:10
hitmanWillybill_, extract it somewhere, run ./configure, make, then make install is the usual way06:10
Shootfastexactly06:10
pollyoAnyone know an alternative driver that might work with a lexmark X6170? (USB connected)06:10
TonyTone17ide: failed opcode unknown06:10
Shootfastbill - have you got it now?06:10
hitmanWillybill_, sometimes make install has to be run with sudo06:11
bill_think so06:11
cblack0bill_: usually: tar zxvf file.tar.gz; cd newlyMadeDir; ./configure; make; sudo make install06:11
bill_quick question...I've seen people put && in their commands06:11
cblack0semicolons are separate commands06:11
bill_is that for multiple commands in a row?06:11
cblack0bill_: that is so the second command only happens if the first one succeeds06:11
hitmanWillybill_, it just strings commands together06:11
cblack0bill_: if you just want them all to happen w/o checking for success you can use semicolons06:11
cblack0easier to type :)06:11
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tinyxHow do I get the processes list?06:12
cblack0bill_: or if you want to see what you are doing or do ls or whatever between, just hit enter each time06:12
cblack0tinyx: ps aux06:12
jttdoes anyone know how i can force my 1G ethernet card to 1000FDX06:13
jttmii-tool only appears to go to  100FDX06:13
tinyxhow do I end the processes?06:13
tinyxor a process06:13
tinyxI need to end Firefox, its being gay06:13
hitmanWillytinyx, killall firefox06:13
Admiral_Chicagotinyx: sudo killall firefox-bin06:13
Admiral_Chicagoand please don't use words like gay in a derogatory sense06:14
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cblack0my ifconfig goes to 1106:14
nu-christ where is the theme manager in kubuntu?06:14
cblack0Admiral_Chicago: agreed about the gay thing btw06:14
tinyxthanks guys, it worked great.06:14
tinyx+1006:14
bobstronu-:06:15
bobstronu-: i found it in kcontrol06:15
bill_grr06:15
bill_ok, so this tarball doesnt even have the source06:15
bill_its an install script06:15
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bill_and I guess flash 9 doesn't work with opera06:15
bill_for linux anyways06:15
Dr_willishmm.. i thought it used to work for me.06:15
nu-bobstro: where is that?06:16
hitmanWillybill_, you won't find source for flash06:16
bobstronu-: but very limited. otherwise, just change options under look & feel in control center.06:16
bobstronu-: Kmenu->Run command->kcontrol06:16
hitmanWillybill_, its extremely proprietary06:16
bobstronu-: there's a story behind KDE & themes, but i don't recall the details. i thought they'd come back but apparently not.06:16
nu-bobstro: what do you mean comeback? they dont allow themes anymore/06:17
bobstronu-: the "themes" option seems to have disappeared in system settings... some time ago. it's still in kcontrol.06:17
cblack0later all06:18
nu-bobstro: alright let me try and find06:18
cblack0thanks for the help06:18
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bobstronu-: but you'll probably be happer with the various look & feel options in system settings anyhow. there's probably some grand reason for it.06:18
hitmanWillybobstro, for as long as kcontrol is included :)06:18
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, did flaccid leave?06:18
nu-bobstro: im a fan of milk themes. i just downloaded some that i'd like to see06:19
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, what's up?06:19
bobstrohitmanWilly: is kcontrol not standard anymore either?06:19
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, forcing static IP didn't work either.06:19
bill_I wish I could get it to work on opera though06:19
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scrubb2000This is why I keep giving up on linux.  There's always something critical that doesn't work.06:20
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hitmanWillybobstro, well, with the way they're hiding it, it appears to be headed that way06:20
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, what did it do, anything?06:21
bobstronu-: you may need to install kcontrol (it is a separate package) so look & feel is probably for the best.06:21
scrubb2000Nope.06:21
scrubb2000Ping still says "network unreachable"06:21
ShinigamiGreets! Anyone here have some experience in setting up a Creative Zen Vision:M?  I'm trying to use Amarok (MTP ver).06:22
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, can you boot into the livecd and see if it works on that?06:22
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hitmanWillyscrubb2000, if you have one, that is06:23
scrubb2000hitmanwilly,  I'll try that...I have a liveDVD that I used to install.06:23
scrubb2000But I don't have any more time to futz with it tonight.06:23
hitmanWillyscrubb2000, if it does work, make a note of how it's set up, and try to config your settings to match06:24
scrubb2000hitmanwilly, will do.  Later.06:24
hitmanWillylater06:24
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neurovoreHello, everybody...this is my first time on Konversation, so do not mind me. I am quite new to Kubuntu Linux, so I do not know how everthing works yet.06:25
hitmanWillyneurovore, welcome aboard06:25
neurovoreThis is a bit of an embarrasing question...but...06:26
ShinigamiHi neurovore06:26
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Minatakuneurovore: Ask away. That's what we're all here for.06:26
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bobstroneurovore: don't sweat it.06:26
MinatakuYeah, the *buntu community is far more forgiving06:27
hitmanWillywe all have to start somewhere06:27
neurovoreI am trying to download stuff using adept manager, but half of the files that I am after give me a BREAK message and it will not let me.06:27
MinatakuI mean, we'll still tell you off, but that's only if you're EXTREMELY lazy06:27
Minatakuneurovore: That doesn't sound embarrasing to me... sounds like an interesting issue you're having06:27
hitmanWillyneurovore, have you updated recently?06:28
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neurovoreTo feisty fox?06:28
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hitmanWillyneurovore, ok, do you see a little exclamation point thing on the right hand side of the panel?06:29
neurovoreHold on...06:29
nonuda_guys, i have dual boot kubuntu and xp, both works fine before, but sudenlly now xp won't boot!, when i tried to boot xp, grub show me only "starting up" and a blinking cursor, it seems grub can't find xp kernel or anything to need xp boot..06:29
neurovoreNo.06:29
hitmanWillyneurovore, ok, open up konsole06:30
neurovoreDone.06:30
hitmanWillyneurovore, type in : sudo apt-get update06:31
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neurovoreThere.06:31
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hitmanWillyneurovore, ok, now sudo apt-get upgrade06:32
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hitmanWillyneurovore, this is updating your system06:32
kalorin_heh dual boot06:32
kalorin_why?06:32
neurovoreHold on a moment...Konsole gave me an error message...06:32
neurovoreE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                                                           able)06:32
neurovoreE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                                           ess using it?06:32
kalorin_anyone used xen?06:32
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hitmanWillyneurovore, ok, close adept06:33
kalorin_very seriously considering xen06:33
neurovoreNow it works06:33
kaner_is there anyway to keep konqueror from prompting for the password while connecting to an SFTP resources after the SSH key has already been setup.06:33
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kalorin_rather than vmware06:33
hitmanWillyneurovore, adept locks out the package management system06:33
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kalorin_adept is a graphical apt-get front end, which in turn is a CLI front end for dpkg06:34
kalorin_any of those will lock it06:34
kalorin_if you try to do more than 1 at a time06:34
dsmith__I dont dual boot06:34
dsmith__I backup windows and run it in a vmware session06:34
neurovoreOkay...I typed in sudo apt-get upgrade and got this...06:34
neurovoreReading package lists... Done06:34
neurovoreBuilding dependency tree06:34
neurovoreReading state information... Done06:34
neurovore0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:34
kalorin_dsmith I do too06:34
bill_whats the name of the package for JRE? is it just JRE?06:34
kalorin_but I've been reading that this xen deal is smokin06:34
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kalorin_glibjava or soemthing such06:35
dsmith__xen, hmmm. I dont know06:35
hitmanWillyneurowave, ok, your system is up to date06:35
kalorin_just search for java in adept06:35
kalorin_dsmith, they're claiming like 95% performance for host OS's06:35
dsmith__JRE 1.5 i think, something like that06:35
dsmith__hmmmm'06:35
kalorin_yeah06:35
kalorin_that's what I said06:35
kalorin_hmmm06:35
dsmith__lol06:35
hitmanWillyneurovore, ok, what in adept is giving you break messages?06:35
neurovoreFirefox for one thing...06:36
kalorin_actually i said, um... wow!06:36
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kalorin_and I might have said... great googly mooglys!06:36
dsmith__i am on the website for xen06:37
hitmanWillyneurovore: ok, run this: sudo apt-get install firefox06:37
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dsmith__kalorin I am on 3xen06:37
kalorin_3xen/06:38
hitmanWillyneurovore, when/if it comes back with an error, post it in pastebin06:38
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hitmanWilly!paste | neurovore06:38
ubotuneurovore: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:38
Cosmo_someone gave me a command earlier but I forgot to write it down for installing the .deb file for my brother FAX1840c printer drives06:38
dsmith__no alternate room06:39
hitmanWillyCosmo_, dpkg -i?06:39
Cosmo_hitmanWilly: thats the one06:39
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kalorin_Paravirtualization Provides Near-Native Performance06:39
kalorin_Xens paravirtualization technology is widely acknowledged as the fastest and most secure virtualization software in the industry. Xen offers near-native performance for virtual servers with up to 10 times less overhead than proprietary offerings, and benchmarked overhead of well under 5% in most cases compared to 35% or higher overhead rates for other virtualization technologie06:39
kalorin_that's what I foudn exciting06:39
dsmith__kalorin got #3xen06:39
dsmith__*goto06:39
hitmanWillyCosmo_, sudo dpkg -i <nameOfPackage>.deb06:40
dsmith__!offtopic06:40
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:40
vit_hola06:40
neurovoreOkay...here is what I got...06:40
neurovorehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16064/06:40
hitmanWillyneurovore, ok, sudo dpkg --configure -a06:41
Shinigaminight all *wave*06:42
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vit_perrassssssssssssss06:43
hitmanWillyneurovore, did that return anything?06:44
neurovoreNo.06:44
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neurovoreI just got the command prompt again.06:45
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hitmanWillyneurovore, ok, try sudo apt-get install libmyspell3c206:46
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hitmanWillyneurovore, paste the output of that in pastebin please06:47
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rodrigohola, aguien me puede ayudar con BIND06:47
hitmanWilly!es | rodrigo06:48
uboturodrigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:48
neurovorehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16065/06:48
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hitmanWillyneurovore, ok, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:49
hitmanWillyneurovore, this will bring up a text file in a text editor06:50
Cosmo_ok this is going to drive me nuts, my printer (brother intellifax 1840C) is not listed when I try to install a printer, and the only drivers I have been able to find are the lpr and cups drivers on the brother website but nothing I seem to do installs them06:50
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hitmanWillyneurovore, is it open?06:51
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underdog5004how do I delete a directory that isn't empty?06:51
neurovoreIt opened sources.list - kate06:51
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hitmanWillyok, now go down and remove the #s in front of every line that starts with deb06:52
sticksabuserCosmo_: so you tried to use the add printer wizard already?06:52
pollyoI'm going to reinstall my ubuntu on my uncles computer tomorrow.  If I leave room for windows to be installed will there be any problem installing windows after linux?06:52
underdog5004pollyo, you'll have to reinstall grub, since windows writes over the MBR06:52
neurovoreYou mean the "s" in "src"?06:52
hitmanWillyneurovore, no s as in all of the # in front of the deb lines06:53
Cosmo_sticksabuser: yep, my printer is listed nowhere in the wizard and none of the .deb files seem to be ones the wizard will accept06:53
pollyounderdog5004: Ok  Does the installation give you the option of using grub?  I do not recall.06:53
underdog5004pollyo, I don't think so06:53
Red_Tearhmm06:53
underdog5004grub is the only option06:53
Red_TearI got a problem i guess06:53
kaner_is there anyway to keep konqueror from prompting for the password while connecting to an SFTP resources after the SSH RSA key has already been setup.06:53
sticksabuserunderdog5004: rm -rf "directorypath"06:53
aneeshi...i want to search a folder in ubuntu...how i can do it..plz help me06:54
Red_Tearmy Computer makes some unusual noise06:54
hitmanWillyneurovore, once that's done, save and close06:54
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Red_Tearklick06:54
pollyounderdog5004: After I install windows (when he finds his CD) will I have to do anything to reactive the linux startup?06:54
underdog5004sticksabuser, lol, thanks...I just read the man page06:54
hitmanWillyneurovore, let me know when you finish06:54
Red_Tearsounds like it came from the HD to me... even if nothing is using the HD at the moment... it have stopped now... hmm06:55
pollyounderdog5004: or make it recognize that windows is also installed?06:55
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underdog5004pollyo, I'm not sure  about the command...I think it's grub-reinstall06:55
Red_Tearand much things whas going slow this moment... now again06:55
underdog5004but you have to boot from a livecd to run that command. Grub will see the windows partition as well as the linux one.06:55
hitmanWillyneurovore, make sure its just the lines that start with deb or deb-src06:55
pollyounderdog5004: Ok06:55
Red_Tearand it sounds like its rotating fast... but the light diode in front of my tower dont show anything accessing the HD06:55
pollyounderdog5004: Any idea if windows like a specific area on the hard drive?06:56
Red_Tearbut just sometimes06:56
MinatakuRed_Tear: The HDD should always be spinning when the system is on, unless it's using powersaving06:56
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Red_Tearoh ok06:56
MinatakuUsually that won't kick in for at least 20-60 minutes, though06:57
aneesi want to search a folder in ubuntu...how i can do it...tell me the command..plz help me06:57
neurovoreIs this what you mean? Before....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16066/ After...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16068/06:57
Red_Tearand what about thes clicking sound? is it gonna be broken?06:57
Lynoureanees: based on name? or something else?06:57
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Lynoureanees: anyway, see   man find06:57
Lynoureanees: in some cases  locate  can also do it06:58
aneesbased on name06:58
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hitmanWillyneurovore, no, just the lines that start with deb or deb-src, leave the rest of the # in06:58
Lynoureanees: then I'd start with   locate namehere  but that also gives you files in the path, you'll see :)06:59
neurovoreHold on...06:59
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Red_TearMinataku: and what about thes clicking sound? is it gonna be broken?06:59
MinatakuRed_Tear: This ticking, is it a constant ticking whenever the drive is spinning?07:01
MinatakuAt a constant rate?07:01
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neurovorehitmanWilly...like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16070/07:05
underdog5004sweet, I just installed jinzora, and I'm loving it!07:05
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kalorin_minataku, yeah I get that too07:05
kalorin_the ticking of the drive all the time07:05
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kalorin_like a little miniwrite07:05
kalorin_every 3-4 seconds07:05
Minatakukalorin_: That could be a bad sign07:05
kalorin_I can't decide if something is logging or what07:06
kalorin_I've got the smart stuff installed I guess I shoudl figure out how to make it report07:06
hitmanWillyneurovore, put the ## in front of where it says "Uncomment" as well07:06
MinatakuIf something is accessing it, then it's normal07:06
kalorin_hell, I can never tell what all is going on anymore07:06
MinatakuIf it's always clicking, like, from the second it spins up, get to replacing it ASAP07:06
kalorin_oh no07:06
kalorin_only after X is started and running07:06
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kalorin_it's not in swap cause I've turned swap off and it's still doing it07:06
MinatakuOh, in that case you're probably fine07:07
hitmanWillyneurovore, as well as the line that starts "Major"07:07
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kalorin_nice07:09
kalorin_samsung HD400LJ, 400gb SATA drive, does not support smart07:09
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neurovorehitmanwilly...like this?07:09
neurovore 107:09
neurovore 207:09
neurovore 307:09
neurovore 407:09
kalorin_though for sure it would when I bought it07:09
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neurovoresorry...accidentally did that.07:09
hitmanWilly:)07:09
neurovoreHere is what I mean to do...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16073/07:10
dsmith__kalorin: you should put some type of restricted access on your box man07:11
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hitmanWillyneurovore, put the ## in front of the two places it says repository too, missed that last time07:12
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kalorin_dsmith?07:12
kalorin_you mean the photo stuff?07:12
dsmith__alot of it yea07:13
kalorin_it's something I've considered07:13
kalorin_it was never meant to be eveything I've ever taken07:13
dsmith__I would if I wee you07:13
kalorin_kind of got that way though07:13
neurovorehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16074/07:13
dsmith__well I goto go07:13
dsmith__cya room07:13
kalorin_it'll likely go away sometime soon to be replaced with a flick07:13
kalorin_flickr account or something such07:13
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hitmanWillyneurovore, crap, one more, where it says "distribution"07:14
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neurovorehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16075/07:15
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hitmanWillyneurovore: ok, that got it07:16
hitmanWillyneurovore, save that and exit kate07:16
wolferinewhat is the most effective way for looking for a single file on your system? (sudo locate file.exe)07:16
neurovoreThere.07:16
kalorin_wolferine: man find07:16
hitmanWillyneurovore, ok, now sudo apt-get update07:16
neurovorehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16076/07:17
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hitmanWillyneurovore, must have missed a line in sources.list, ok,i see it, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:19
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wolferinekalorin_>thanks07:19
me2windid somebody sa my name?07:19
hitmanWillyneurovore, about 20 lines down where it says "repository", ## that07:19
fakepatriot!cedega07:19
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega07:19
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neurovoreThere...I added ## saved the changes and typed in sudo-apt get update...and got this...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16077/07:21
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hitmanWillyneurovore, ok, that's what it should look like07:22
hitmanWillyneurovore, sudo apt-get install firefox07:22
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Admiral_Chicagoanyone played with Xen whom can expalin how to make an image from an iso07:23
neurovoreI got the same error message as before...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16078/07:23
hitmanWillyneurovore, ok, hold on a sec...07:25
hitmanWilly!find libmyspell3c207:25
ubotuFound: libmyspell3c207:25
neurovoretype that in Konsole?07:25
hitmanWillyneurovore, no07:25
hitmanWillyim checking something07:25
hitmanWilly!info libmyspell3c207:26
ubotulibmyspell3c2: MySpell spellchecking library. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.1-16 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 124 kB07:26
Admiral_Chicago!xen07:26
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy07:26
hitmanWillyneurovore, ok, sudo apt-get install libmyspell3c207:26
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neurovorehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16079/07:27
hitmanWillywell, im at a loss here07:29
neurovoreHmmm...07:29
hitmanWillyneurovore, did you install the regular version of kubuntu?07:30
neurovoreI went with 6.10 edgy eft.07:31
hitmanWillyneurovore, or are you running an unusual setup, like a mac or something?07:31
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neurovoreI do not think so...this is a PC that I am on....however, I get internet through my ethernet port at a university...that might have something to do with it.07:33
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neurovoreI am not sure if they have some sort of setup in the university server that prevents me from doing this.07:33
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hitmanWillyneurovore, it feels like it can't download from one of the repositories07:34
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ybottQuestion.  I plugged my zip drive into my comptuer.   How do I mount it and where did it go?07:34
neurovoreCould my university's firewall possibly be blocking this from happening?07:35
hitmanWillyneurovore, i don't see why it would07:35
ybottWhen I plugged it up, it asked me what I wanted to do I clicked open in new window, but nothing happened.07:35
neurovoreI see...07:36
hitmanWillyneurovore, but there's no real way to be sure without acess to the settings07:36
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ybotthitmanWilly: Any idea?07:36
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fannagogannahi, i have a problem with CUPS configuration. I have an /etc/cups/client.conf file with proper permissions (644)07:38
neurovoreIs there anything that anybody would suggest?07:38
hitmanWillyybott, not sure what device a zip disk sits on...07:38
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fannagogannaWhen I go to the kcontrol module as a USER and choose the cups print system, it looks only for the server (it does not appear to recognize that I have set up the computer a cups client). However, when I change the printer configuration as ROOT it does -- I can see the printers located on another cups server.07:39
fannagogannaMy question: Why the different behavior when I have set up my Ubuntu 6.10 system as a cups client?07:40
hitmanWillyybott, normally the command would be mount /dev/<deviceName> /mnt/zipdrive07:40
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hitmanWillyybott, i just don't know what <deviceNape> would be07:40
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ybotthmm ok07:40
ybotti cant seem to find any documentation on it either07:40
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hitmanWillywell, everyone, i really need to get some sleep, c y'all later07:41
neurovoreGoodbye.07:41
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vinces1979ybott: http://www.linux.com/howtos/ZIP-Drive-6.shtml07:41
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neurovoreOn a different note...does anybody know how to format a SATA hard drive through linux?07:42
kalorin_sure07:43
kalorin_mkfs07:43
fannagoganna_sorry, never mind.07:43
fannagoganna_fixed the problem07:43
kalorin_mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sd<driverletter><partition>07:43
bobstroneurovore: you've created partitions already?07:43
kalorin_you'll likely want to fdisk it first fdisk /dev/sd<driveletter><partition>07:43
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neurovoreWhat I am trying to do...is that I have two hard drives. One of them has linux on it, and is a parallel drive. The other drive is a SATA drive with nothing on it.07:44
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fannagoganna_neurovore, what do you want to do?07:45
neurovoreI just want to format the SATA drive so that it shows up on the desktop and so that I can use it for storage.07:45
fannagoganna_ah, first do fdisk on that hard drive07:45
kalorin_it's likely sda07:45
kalorin_or /dev/sda rather07:45
fannagoganna_then make the file system -- something like mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda107:46
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kalorin_or you could just do ti via the GUI tools07:46
fannagoganna_or mkfs.reiserfs if you want a "killer" filesystem :)07:46
kalorin_but what fun is that?07:46
neurovoreHold on...type fdisk in Konsole?07:46
fannagoganna_yup07:46
kalorin_if by killer you mena it dies and someone kills you for the data loss that is :)07:46
bobstroneurovore: cfdisk is a bit friendlier07:46
kalorin_or you can use that pull down menu dealy07:47
fannagoganna_no, i mean that Hans Reiser is looking for the real killer07:47
kalorin_system settings -> advanced -> disks and file systems07:47
neurovoreOkay...I am in the disks and filesystems area.07:48
kalorin_it's pretty windowz from there07:48
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ybottvinces1979: Hey thanks, that helped, got it working.07:49
neurovoreI have never done this in Windows either.07:49
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neurovoreMy computer refers to the SATA drive as "Disk ATA".07:52
neurovoreDo I have to tell Linux to format it?07:54
Davorthe knetworkmanager was fixed?07:55
neurovoreknetworkmanager?07:56
Davoryes07:56
Davorneurovore: doesn't work for wireless conecctions07:56
neurovoreOh.07:56
Davoryes07:57
Davor:/07:57
neurovoreSo that is why I could not get firefox?07:57
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Davormmm07:58
Davormy knetworkmanager can't search wireless networks07:58
chemicalvampDavor it isnt connecting automaticly?07:59
Davorchemicalvamp: nop,08:01
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chemicalvampedgy?08:02
Davordoesn't scan any network08:02
Davor7.04 beta08:02
neurovoreGoodnight...I have to go, but I will be back tomorrow.08:02
chemicalvampso feisty then08:02
chemicalvamptype in "iwlist wlan0 scanning08:03
Davorworks08:03
Davorscan my wireless networks08:03
Davorchemicalvamp: the ketworkmanager isn't work now?08:05
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Davorjejej08:08
chemicalvampwel can you at least connect with it?08:09
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Davorchemicalvamp: Yes Ican.08:10
Davormanually I can...08:10
Davorbut the last week my knetworkmanager works08:10
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bill_khello08:19
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bill_kping?08:19
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AsasinHello.08:21
Admiral_Chicagobill_k: pong.08:21
Admiral_Chicagocan't really help your issue though08:21
bill_kgah08:21
bill_ki know08:21
AsasinI had a quick installation question about Kubuntu08:22
bill_kjust you.. :( lol08:22
bill_k;)08:22
Admiral_Chicago!bluetooth08:22
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup08:22
bill_kAdmiral_Chicago: tried that first08:22
bill_kmine is weird, they pair + connect through hardware buttons08:22
bill_kon the adapter08:22
Admiral_Chicagothats the best I got08:22
bill_kok, thx08:22
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AsasinIs it possible to mount the installer disc for Kubuntu on a thumbdrive or SD memory chip, then use that to format an older laptop and install Kubuntu on it?08:23
Cosmo_I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found08:23
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bill_kAsasin: I may be wrong, but older computers don't all support boot to usb08:25
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bill_kxubuntu may be better also, don't you have a cd drive?08:25
AsasinWell it's not too old...08:26
AsasinAnd it supports booting to a removable drive... which granted isn't explicitly USB or memory chip08:26
AsasinThe CD ROM drive is busted08:26
AsasinI was just looking for a quick fix for my computer, I was going to get one in a couple of months but I don't want to go that long without a comp you know?08:26
ShootfastAsasin: Theoretically yes, but as they said, older pcs dont boot from usb08:27
osirissome will boot from a network08:27
osirisbut that may bea little more complicated than you are looking for08:28
AsasinHm...08:28
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AsasinWell it would be worth a shot. And how do you boot from a network? I have another computer I could maybe use to do it.08:28
osirisread up on (i think its called ) PXE booting08:29
osirisnever done it myself08:29
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bill_kcan anyone point me in the right direction for bluetooth supprot?08:30
bill_ksupport* ?08:30
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AsasinWow that's a lot of information. Well, I'll try this out first with the memory chip and go from there I guess.08:30
bill_koh god, pxe booting :)08:31
Asasinpxe mindoverloading -_-08:34
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ShootfastAsasin: can you dock the notebook?08:35
AsasinDock it?08:36
chemicalvampis there a command for using apt-get to download (not install) to a certain directory?08:36
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ShootfastAsasin: As in is there a dock made for your laptop that has a cd drive08:36
AsasinI don't believe so. I've an external DVD ROM burner that should function as a CD ROM device (I thought, anyway), but my laptop won't even recognize it when plugged in.08:37
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krautmoin08:43
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Cosmo_I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found08:44
jbrouhardOkay, why won't iwconfig eth1 essid "myaccesspoint" work ?  I keep trying that command (yes, with sudo in front) but it won't keep the settings...08:45
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underdog5004I'm trying to compile libtorrent 0.11.4, but when I sudo ./configure, I get: Checking for OPENSSL... configure: error: The pkg-config script could not be found or is too old. Make sure it is in your PATH or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable to the full path to pkg-config.  I have no idea...will anyone help me?08:51
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underdog5004Admiral_Chicago, you around?08:59
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flaccidwho here has heard and/or uses KHelpCenter for doco ?09:02
underdog5004nope09:02
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flaccidhelp:/kubuntu/09:05
reydelsillonhi. anyone know the name of a program that i can get all partitions mounted automaticaly?09:05
reydelsilloni used one under ubuntu-gnome.. but now im using K-ub09:05
bill_khow many partitions do you have?09:06
underdog5004hmm, ok, I installed pkg-config to help w/ my problem, now I'm still getting the error, but it says that I don't have openssl installed. I do. What can I do?09:06
reydelsillonbill_k: i got 3 partitions. swap, ext3 and ntfs.09:07
bill_kok09:07
reydelsillonand a ide Hd that i cant see.09:07
bill_k!fstab | reydelsillon09:08
ubotureydelsillon: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions09:08
reydelsillonreading :)09:08
bill_khope it helps09:09
Admiral_Chicagounderdog5004: sorry in bed09:09
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Admiral_Chicagojust saw it when I got up to use the restroom09:09
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underdog5004Admiral_Chicago, bummer...I'm having trouble compiling...09:09
underdog5004nvm, sleep well09:09
Admiral_Chicagothanks09:10
bill_kreydelsillon: not an official guide, but http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only09:10
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flaccidreydelsillon: its in system settings -> advanced - disk & filesystems09:19
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Cosmo_I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found09:26
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underdog5004yay, I figured out my problem! I had to install the -dev of libssl09:28
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orient2000!partitions09:32
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter09:32
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veinhello all09:54
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Cosmo_I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found anyone know how to fix this?09:58
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orient2000 Get out of Tibet please.10:01
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djkoockc' nessuno?10:04
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compilerwriterUnderdo2004 what have you got going on again.  I have such a flurry of people joining and parting It is four screens up for me.10:05
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compilerwriters/Underdo2004/Underdog200410:05
compilerwriterThat and I am trying to follow kubuntu-de10:06
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jay_How do I identify myself? #java keeps tellin me i gotta do that first10:07
wolferinejay_, goto #help10:07
wolferinethey handle those types of questions10:08
posingaspopular /msg NickServ help works too10:08
wolferineof course :)10:08
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FrozenPlasmaGuten Morgen!10:10
FrozenPlasmaKann man eine (K)Ubuntu-Version einfach updaten? Diesen Monat kommt wohl noch die V.7 raus...10:11
FrozenPlasma...ich wrde aber gerne jetzt schon Kubuntu installieren...10:11
wolferineFrozenPlasma, try #kubuntu-** Country code10:11
wolferineor #ubuntu-**10:12
FrozenPlasma#kubuntu-**10:12
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FrozenPlasma?10:12
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wolferineFrozenPlasma, what country?10:12
wolferinewhere are you from?10:12
FrozenPlasmaah - ok10:12
FrozenPlasmasorry10:12
wolferinenot a problem10:12
FrozenPlasmai'd like to know if kubuntu can be updated easily...10:13
FrozenPlasmaor if i have to install every version on its own10:13
wolferineFrozenPlasma,  use the Ubuntu Guide(use google to find)10:13
wolferineits easy10:13
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FrozenPlasmaok. that's all i wanted to know :)10:14
wolferineKDE should come with an update manager already10:14
FrozenPlasmaThank you!10:14
wolferinenp10:14
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posingaspopularwolferine: leave some of that kubuntu support for the rest of us10:14
wolferinesorry10:15
wolferineill try and spread it out10:15
wolferineO_o10:15
posingaspopularha i was jk10:15
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wolferinei know :/10:16
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akrus`Awayhello10:18
akrus`Awaycould someone tell me if there's any software available to download a folder from HTTP with the files inside10:19
akrus`Awaylike this: http://tenshi.ru/anime-ost/Hanbun_no_Tsuki_ga_Noboru_Sora/10:19
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flaccidakrus`Away: i believe wget can do it10:20
akrus`Awayflaccid: ok, i'll try10:21
flaccidhttp://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/html_node/Recursive-Download.html10:21
akrus`Awaythanks :)10:21
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flaccidnp10:22
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compilerwriterwolferine frozenplasma was typing in German.10:25
se7engrrrrrrrr i can't get nvidia fx5200 to work i get a black screen as soon as i change from nv driver to nvidia10:25
wolferinecountry code for Germany?10:25
compilerwriterBy the time I realized he need an !de he had left10:25
wolferinese7en, i can help a bit10:25
bill_kneed fglrx binary driver help, x won't start :(10:25
se7eni could use some help10:25
compilerwriterI am trying to follow kubuntu-de so and this channel so I was a bit slow on the uptake.10:26
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wolferinese7en, you have to update to the latest nvidia drivers, its listened on the Ubuntu Guide (google it)10:26
wolferinethen once you update the drivers, you want to run nvidia-xorg10:26
wolferinewhich is a command for setting up your xorg.conf to run the nvidia driver10:27
akrus`Awayhm10:27
wolferinethen, if you like10:27
flaccidse7en: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:27
akrus`Awayit's not downloading anyway :(10:27
se7enwolferine: i tryed all the guides including automatics10:27
wolferineyou can use nvidia-settings to setup the other options10:27
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wolferinese7en, in ff, open the ubuntu guide, press ctrl-f (find), then type in nvidia and search for it10:27
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wolferineits the second one that comes up on the page10:28
wolferine(if I remember correctly)10:28
flaccidim willing to look at pastebins of xorg.conf and10:28
flaccidXorg.0.log for people with X problems10:28
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se7enwolferine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16089/10:34
wolferinese7en, did you update the drivers?10:35
se7enyes10:35
se7enall i get is a black screen after reboot just before i can log in10:36
wolferineand ran nvidia-xconfig?10:36
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se7enyes10:37
wolferineok, open a shell10:37
se7enok10:37
wolferinetype sudo nano .bashrc10:37
wolferinelet me finish, then ask questions10:38
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wolferinescroll to the bottom10:38
wolferinethen add this:10:38
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wolferine# USER DEFINED ALIAS10:38
wolferinealias xo='sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'10:38
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wolferinethose two lines, exactly10:39
wolferinethen press ctrl-o10:39
wolferinethen enter10:39
wolferinethen ctrl-x10:39
wolferineto exit10:39
wolferinedone that?10:39
posingaspopularwolferine: i warned you already!10:39
wolferinewarned?10:39
wolferineam I hogging the channel again?10:39
wolferineor too much spoon feeding :)10:40
bill_kwolferine: want to look at more xorg patebins?10:40
wolferinebill_k, not atm, but in a bit sure10:40
flaccidse7en: i don't see any fatal errors unfortunately. you do'nt have any wacom devices, i assume so i'd remove them first just in case its that. not this config is using the nv free driver.10:40
bill_kthanks10:40
kubuntianguys10:40
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kubuntiani need some help with my connection....10:41
wolferineflaccid,  probably will as well bill_k10:41
kubuntianmy friend with a macbook got the ip from the cable modem as soon as he connected the cable10:41
se7enflaccid: what is wacom device?10:41
kubuntianfor me instead, when i put the cable in, and i make a dhgclient request i don't get anything10:41
flaccid!baddevice > se7en10:42
wolferinese7en, did you read what I wrote?10:42
flaccidkubuntian: pastebin output of dhclient10:42
wolferineor am I just wasting my time?10:42
se7eni am using nv again because i get a black screen10:42
kubuntianthe leds on the ethernet connection blinks all the time thohg10:42
se7enyes i am at it wolferine10:42
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wolferineare you done those instructions yet?10:42
flaccidse7en: well no wonder i didn't find any errors. can you paste the right log please!!10:42
wolferinehehe10:43
kubuntiancan somebody guide me through the connection process to see what's wrong?10:43
wolferinese7en, am I wasting my time, cause i can help others...10:43
flaccidkubuntian: you could pastebin the output of dhclient so i can tell you your problem..10:43
wolferineok, bill_k post it10:43
wolferineill take a look10:43
kubuntianok10:43
bill_k.conf http://pastebin.ca/444245 and Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.ca/444247 followed !binarydrivers guide for fglrx, on feisty (updated) and fglrx has worked in past10:43
posingaspopularwolferine: hogging it all, but it's okay i dont know the answers anyway10:44
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wolferinelol10:44
Dani#ubuntu10:44
wolferineati, sorry bill_k i probably cannot help10:44
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wolferineyou can try #ubuntu-effects10:44
kubuntianflaccid: http://pastebin.ca/44424910:44
bill_kok thanks for looking10:44
kubuntianhere it is10:44
flaccidkubuntian: if your cable is connected, i dont know why your dhcp server is not giving a lease offer.10:45
flaccidthe problem could be with your dhcp server10:46
kubuntianyeah, the cable is connected10:46
kubuntianwell, in that case my friend shouldn't get anything too10:46
kubuntianbut he does10:46
flaccidhe is on a dif operating system?10:46
kubuntianand receives an IP correctlu10:46
kubuntianyeah, he is on MacOSX10:46
flaccidweird10:46
kubuntiani KNOW!!10:47
CarinArrkubuntian: you sure there aren't mac address restrictions in the router?10:47
kubuntianeven cause i used ethernet a lots10:47
flaccidsomeone else was here before with this problem, what that you?10:47
kubuntianyeah10:47
kubuntianyeah, i am sure10:47
kubuntiancause it's just an cable modem10:47
flaccidbill_k: whats the prob with your config10:47
kubuntianand it does not have firewall or restrictions10:47
bill_kx won't start after installing fglrx driver (want to peek at log and config?)10:48
kubuntianflaccid: no it wasn't me10:48
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flaccidbill_k: isn't that what you provided ??10:48
bill_kyes10:48
bill_kI don't know10:48
CarinArrbill_k: what's the url? i'll have a quickie look10:48
flaccidbill_k: they look fine to me. i can't see any error in xorg log10:49
bill_kok, thanks! .conf http://pastebin.ca/444245 and Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.ca/444247 followed !binarydrivers guide for fglrx, on feisty (updated) and fglrx has worked in past10:50
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flaccidbill_k: even though the log uses radeon driver10:50
CarinArruhm..10:51
CarinArrwhy are there two ati device sections?10:51
flaccidyeah might wanna remove one10:51
flaccid  Driver      "ati"10:51
flaccidthat should be fglrx i assume10:51
flaccididentifiers don't match coz of it10:52
CarinArryeah, that's what i'd think.. change driver "ati" to driver "fglrx" and remove the second section10:52
flaccidyeah the log says its using ATI10:52
bill_kok10:52
se7enok flaccid and wolferine here is the old log10:52
flaccidmake sure you use         BusID       "PCI:3:0:0"10:52
CarinArror add the bus id to the second device section and comment out the previous one or something10:53
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kubuntianflaccid: you know what's even weirder?10:53
flaccidyep10:53
kubuntianthat when i connect with a fixed IP10:53
kubuntianfor example ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.110:53
CarinArrcause at the moment your server uses the second device, but only the first one is configured correctly, and it's not using the fglrx driver;)10:53
flaccidi reckon xorg should complain if there is a conflict like this but ah well it provides overloading capabilities10:53
kubuntianknemo tells me CONNECTED10:53
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flaccid!info knemo10:53
ubotuknemo: network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.5-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 267 kB, installed size 1368 kB10:53
flaccidwell yes10:54
flaccidconnected means it has a link and IP10:54
flacciddoesn't mean it works10:54
kubuntianand the other weird thing is the following10:54
kubuntian[17184063.424000]  b44: eth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX.10:54
kubuntianoh, i see10:54
kubuntianthis one was a dmesg error10:54
flaccidi don't knwo about that one10:54
flaccidbut that could be the reason or it could be irrelevant10:54
flaccidyou can google but10:54
bill_kCarinArr: flaccid crap, I just realized I copied the log in the gui, (after I had put back the working xorg.conf10:54
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bill_kother log is different (of course)10:55
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CarinArri was thinking that, when he said there weren't any errors, but i only looked at the conf so far, not the errors;)10:55
CarinArror lack of them10:55
CarinArrheh10:55
flaccidbill_k: if you fix up the xorg.conf with the right driver section and make sure fglrx is used as Driver and not ati then you should be right10:56
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flaccidCarinArr: well if the dhcp server is not responding to you, can't really check any log10:56
bill_kso remove the first driver section? or just put a # leading each line?10:56
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CarinArro.O10:57
se7enhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16093/  this is the old xorg.log10:57
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flaccidbill_k: move  BusID       "PCI:3:0:0" to the second device section, then remove the first device seciton10:57
CarinArror comment it out;)10:57
kubuntian'10:57
kubuntian?10:57
kubuntiansorry^10:57
kubuntian?10:57
bill_kok10:57
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CarinArrkubuntian: i was assuming flaccid was talking to you, as i wasn't talking about dhcp;)10:58
flaccidse7en: that one looks fine and uses nv10:58
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se7enflaccid: as soon as change /etc/X11/xorg.conf back to nvidia i get the black screen after reboot11:00
flaccidse7en: you've said this many times11:01
wolferinese7en, you needed to update the drivers11:01
wolferineas I said, many times11:01
se7enhow11:01
flaccidif you keep providing me with a working X log i can't do anything for you11:01
bill_kflaccid: got a broken x log :)11:02
flaccidcool11:02
flaccidthats more like it11:02
se7enhow sould i send you a not workin x log ...?11:02
bill_kpastebin.ca/44426111:02
bill_kerror is different with the new device section configuration11:03
amdiakBonjour11:03
se7entill i changed the driver back i can't even work on the console11:03
flaccidse7en: if you are using irc on the same computer, you should copy the file in shell so its not overwritten by the working xorg when you go back in to X11:03
bill_kI think it liked the 2 sections11:03
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flaccidbill_k: i don't think you edited it correctly11:04
CarinArrbill_k: can you paste your xorg.conf please?11:04
flaccidbill_k: pastebin current xorg.conf and i'll edit it correctly11:04
bill_ksure11:04
bill_kthanks :)11:04
bill_kpastebin.ca/44426211:05
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Hc\\hmm11:05
Hc\\can some1 tell me how to install putty on linux?11:06
Hc\\:D11:06
flaccidwhy do you need putty?11:06
bill_kputty is great! on windows11:06
Hc\\or something thats near it11:06
CarinArrbill_k:         Device     "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] "11:06
Hc\\i neet11:06
CarinArrthat's the problem11:06
Hc\\i need it in school11:07
bill_kthat device needs to be ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350.... that's what the screen is identified by11:07
bill_kyes11:07
neojHc\\: konsole and ssh ?11:07
Hc\\ssh is same?11:07
flaccidbill_k: heh you have two screen sections as well11:07
CarinArrbill_k: you should use the identifier for the card, which is aticonfig-Device[0] 11:07
Hc\\im on the windows section atm11:07
bill_kI followed the guide!11:07
flaccidbill_k: take out the first one11:08
bill_kI have no idea how to.... just fix the pastebin :)11:08
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bill_k?11:08
bill_kok completely?11:08
neojHc\\: open a konsole session and typ ssh username@remote_machine11:08
flaccidbloody alright11:08
flaccidif you promise to learn11:08
Hc\\ok11:08
Hc\\ty11:08
Hc\\bb11:08
Hc\\go back to kubuntu :D11:08
bill_ki will learn :)11:08
neojHc\\: ofc you need to change username@remove_machine :)11:08
CarinArrthere looks like there's plenty missing from the second screeens section though11:08
bill_kI've been learning almost 24/7 it's 4am here11:09
flaccidit doesn't need res11:09
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flaccidbut i'll put it in11:09
CarinArr;)11:09
bill_k:)11:09
flaccidCarinArr: that could be where the problem lies11:09
bill_koh11:09
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bill_kanother thing11:09
flaccidmy mate ran vnvidia-config yesterday and it did a similar thing11:09
bill_kI have 2 monitors now11:09
CarinArrright11:10
bill_kboth 1280x102411:10
CarinArrteaching in five minutes so need to get going11:10
CarinArrflaccid'll see you right;)11:10
bill_kwhat do you teach?11:11
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flaccidso you do have dual display already, bill_k ?11:13
bill_kjust unboxed the second monitor 10 minutes ago11:13
bill_kyup11:13
bill_khttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301941 bigdesktop guide for ati11:13
flaccidright11:14
flaccidwell here is single monitor config: http://pastebin.ca/44427711:14
bill_kthank you.11:14
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flaccidnp11:15
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bill_kflaccid: better thing to type than startx?11:18
wolferinebill_k, setting up duals?11:19
bill_kyeah11:19
bill_kwell, ati driver first11:19
wolferineits nice to have11:19
flaccidsudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:19
bill_kwouldn't even work w/ 1 monitor11:19
wolferineyeah, I have an ATI sitting in a box on the floor11:19
wolferinejust bought a new Nvidia :)11:20
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flacciddang11:20
wolferinewell, a month ago11:20
bill_kthanks11:20
bill_kwell, got a kubuntu logo11:20
flaccidif only i had time for games11:20
bill_kit's mostly for screensavers and the possibility of beryl11:20
bill_k:)11:20
flaccidcool11:20
se7enok this should be the not working xorg log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16097/11:21
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flaccidse7en: that one looks fine to me too. if you are getting blank screen then maybe xorg is fine but something else is the problem - maybe acpi11:22
flaccidwhich driver are you trying to use with the bad one?11:22
flaccidbecause that log uses nv and not nvidia again..11:23
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se7eni have the nvidia problem since 6 month i have tryed everthing the last one with automatics which did all the setting and still doesn't work11:24
wolferinese7en,  have the latest drivers?11:24
flaccidwell we dont know what the problem is11:24
wolferineand if so, which?11:24
flaccidse7en: you have the nvidia prop. driver installed?11:24
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se7eni have no idea !!!11:25
flaccidobviously11:26
se7ensend me a link11:26
wolferinese7en, use the ubuntu guide to install the latest drivers11:26
se7enplease11:26
wolferinegoogle11:26
flaccidse7en: take time to do what wolferine said11:26
flaccidthen come back11:26
flaccidinstall and use the binary driver11:26
flaccidatm the free nv driver is being used11:26
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se7eni followed the ubuntu guide 3 times with the same results11:26
bill_kflaccid: looking at log now, didnt start11:26
flaccidwhich should work but you report its not.11:26
se7enblack screen11:26
wolferine<wolferine> se7en, you needed to update the drivers11:26
wolferine<wolferine> as I said, many times11:26
flaccidse7en: you've said this many times already11:27
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flaccidinstead of repeating and wasting time here, go install the binary driver, se7en11:27
bill_kparse error on line 126 of section extensions in file /etc/x11/xorg.conf11:27
wolferinewolferine> se7en, in ff, open the ubuntu guide, press ctrl-f (find), then type in nvidia and search for it11:27
flaccidbill_k: maybe i have a typo one sec11:27
wolferinethose are my previous posts11:27
bill_kunexpected EOF.  Missing EndSection keyword?11:27
wolferineseems se7en has a VERY difficult time reading11:27
bill_kthat's what it said the first time I tried it11:27
flaccidit has a problem with Option      "Composite" "0"11:29
flaccidmaybe the 0 shouldn't be a literal string11:29
flaccidcomment out the composite line and try again11:29
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flaccidso only # Option      "Composite" "0"11:30
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Gabz!samba11:31
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:31
VSpikeHi.  I've got "http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145" and "http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356" in my sources list.  They should be a problem, should they?11:31
Gabzdam bot that's that what i wanted11:32
wolferineVSpike, take them out11:32
flaccidVSpike: why should they be a problem?11:32
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wolferinehehe11:32
VSpikewolferine: why?11:32
flaccidif they are not working anymore or you don't want them, take em out11:32
wolferinelisten to flaccid11:32
flaccidheh11:32
flaccidyeah listen to me lol11:33
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tmskeHi, is there anyone who uses scribes in kubuntu?11:33
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bill_kflaccid: that section was an exact copy paste from the official ubuntu instructions on fglrx setup.  "add this to the end of your xorg.conf file"11:36
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bill_kand it worked on edgy11:36
bill_khttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/billyk128/17-04-07_0432.jpg11:36
flaccidbill_k: so?11:37
flaccidi can't find anything else..11:37
flaccidand thats what it says11:37
flaccidso can't hurt to try.. we might find out what the real reason is11:37
bill_kok11:37
bill_kwilldo11:37
bill_kwill do*11:37
flaccidyou can't see a syntax/typo error can you11:37
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bill_knope11:39
bill_kjust triple checked11:39
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laurGoood morning11:40
lauri have set up my laptop for dual screen, xinerama turned off11:40
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bill_kbleh, it's getting light outside11:40
lauri would like to make an Impress presentation like that that it would appear on the second screen11:41
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bill_kcrosses fingers11:41
VSpikeI have the KDE 3.5.6 packages installed... I am getting a crash from kdesktop_lock.  I was trying to expand an existing bug report I found by providing gdb and valgrind info.  I noticed in gdb there was a lot of "no debug symbols", so I wanted to install the kdebase-dbg package.  But I'm getting conflicts from aptitude11:42
bill_kdoesn't look good11:42
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bill_kflaccid: trying reboot11:42
bill_klol11:42
flaccidk11:42
VSpikekdebase-dbg: Depends: libkonq4 (= 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1~edgy1) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 is installed.11:42
flaccidi find usplash interfers sometimes and you have to use tty11:43
flaccidanother thing i hate about ubuntu11:43
VSpikeit wants to downgrade "kdebase [4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (now) -> 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy)] " and libkonq similarly11:43
Gabzok is there a easy way to get samba working in kubuntu ?11:44
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flaccidGabz: not really11:44
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Gabzok i'll stick to manunally editing that config file....11:45
bill_koh how do I turn the quiet boot off11:45
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bill_kso it shows me all the wonderful errors?11:45
flaccidGabz: kontrol snap in is good, but you generally need to know what you are doing.11:45
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flaccidbill_k: need to edit grub.conf i think and take out the param11:45
flaccidsomething like that11:45
flaccid!usplash11:46
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork11:46
Gabzflaccid: i had to manually edit my samba configure to change the work group i couldn't find it in the control panel thingy11:47
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VSpikeGabz: swat is quite good11:48
bill_kok11:48
flaccidok11:48
bill_kso, still no boot :(11:48
flaccidpastebin the xorg log11:48
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flaccidi wanna see why11:48
posingaspopularflaccid: don't listen to bill_k, he's just a n00b11:49
bill_ki will11:49
bill_kkeyboard io not even working now :(11:49
flaccidhaha11:49
bill_kwell just the I part that I care about11:49
posingaspopularbill_k: do you KNOW where your keyboard is, first of all11:49
flaccidhey play nice :)11:49
bill_k?11:49
bill_kit's on my desk11:49
posingaspopularflaccid: it's cool i already know him11:50
flaccidcool11:50
bill_k:-p11:50
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flaccidw0a did i still leave in two screens11:52
bill_k?11:53
_4strO!codecs11:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:53
bill_ki think i need to boot to recovery mode11:54
bill_kcrap11:54
flaccidbill_k: i still left the 2 screens in11:54
flaccidbill_k: new xorg.conf : http://pastebin.ca/44431911:54
bill_kok11:54
bill_ki should just let you ssh in11:54
tmskeI'm trying to use scribes on kde (http://scribes.sourceforge.net) and I get an error when running it: No module named gtksourceview11:55
bill_kuh oh....11:55
bill_kred text11:55
bill_k*activiating swapfile swap...             [fail] 11:56
Hc\\\hey, can some1 tell me how to instal java plugins? :D11:56
Hc\\\sudo get-apt install ..?11:56
icecruncher!java11:56
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.11:56
Gabztmske: the error means it wants to use a gtk package11:56
tmskeGabz, I have installed python-gtk11:57
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_4strOtmske: sudo apt-get install libgtksourceview-common11:58
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_4strO???11:58
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Gabztmske: there _4strO has your answer...11:58
_4strO:)11:58
_4strOjust do a little apt-cache search gtksourceview11:59
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bill_kno kbd and mouse again12:00
bill_k:(12:00
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tmske_4strO, Gabz, this is telling me that I have this already installed12:00
pgquiles__when will the Feisty RC be released?12:00
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bill_kflaccid: it may be time for me to clean install12:01
bill_ki manage to F* it up twice a month anyways12:01
icecruncherwhen I log in i get the following message "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly", this being probably something along with the desktop because I cannot see any icons on the desktop for at least 15 minutes unless I add an icon to. what should i do? how can I solve this? (edgy)12:01
flaccidno kbd and mouse, but is the display driver working?12:01
VSpikeI'm thinking of doing a clean install of feisty, when it's released12:01
VSpikeGonna be painful though12:02
bill_kno, used the working xorg.conf12:03
bill_khavent tested the most recent one12:03
flaccidwtf not12:03
flaccidi told you i forgot to remove the two screen sections..12:03
flaccidbill_k: please try http://pastebin.ca/44431912:04
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_4strOtmske: where did you find the scribe package ?12:04
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bill_kwell, no kbd or mouse support,cant do much12:05
lupulsomeone help me please? which is the path i have to write in gaim to show the music i'm listening as status12:05
lupulfrom amarok12:05
flaccidbill_k: ctrl+alt+f1 and login there12:05
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bill_kzero kbd mouse connectivity12:06
tmske_4strO, I got it of getdeb.net, but I'll try to install it manually and see if that works12:06
bill_kcrap12:06
bill_kooh idea12:06
flaccidbill_k: well if you get it back, that last pastebin of xorg should work in theory and fix that last problem.12:06
_4strOmmm12:07
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bill_kshould I bother with 4 hours of sleep?12:07
tmske_4strO: after installing it, I have no the error No module named TextBuffer12:08
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bill_kactivating swapfile swap fails12:10
flaccidbill_k: not going to try that conf ?12:11
bill_kflaccid: I cant get to pastebin.com without a gui12:11
bill_ki cant get keyboard and mouse with gui12:11
_4strOtmske: lol12:11
bill_konly before it gets to gui12:11
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VSpikebill_k: you could use wget12:13
laurHow to switch off OpenOffice's automatical crash recovery ?12:13
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flaccidbill_k: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and get it work with something12:14
flaccidthen when you are in kde/X overwite the xorg.conf with the 1 i pasted then restart kdm /X12:14
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VSpikebill_k: wget http://pastebin.ca/44431912:14
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VSpikebill_k: if you use GNU screen + vi/nano/emacs + wget you can do what you need12:15
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flaccidthats true12:17
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VSpikecan also use irssi to connect here12:18
VSpikeI was doing it yesterday on a broken x server12:18
VSpikepainful but educational :)12:19
VSpikeactually i like irssi12:19
bill_kVSpike: i'll just steal a kbd from the computer lab downstarirs tomorrow12:19
bill_ktoday12:19
VSpikejust not in vga console resoltion on a 19" crt.  ew12:19
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bill_kscreen irssi12:20
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bill_kcrap, did the xorg config12:20
bill_kno luck12:20
bill_k!12:20
bill_ki have a usb mouse, any onscreen kbd?12:21
bill_kremote login eh?12:21
bill_khow do I add a host?12:21
bill_kor what do I add for host?12:21
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icecruncheranybody?12:22
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Gabzhost ?12:24
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bill_kat the ubuntu login scren12:25
bill_kthere's remote login option12:26
VSpikeicecruncher: did you look at http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=1553512:26
bill_kxdmcp host menu12:26
icecruncherno12:26
icecruncherthanks12:26
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_4strOicecruncher: ?12:29
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flaccidbill_k: you have login screen?12:30
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bill_konly mouse though12:30
_4strOicecruncher: what did you do ?12:30
flaccidis this under my xorg.conf ?12:30
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icecrunchernothing12:30
bill_ki can do anything in cli, recovery mode, but once it loads the login screen the mouse and kbd stop working12:30
bill_kno12:30
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ForMatterBill_k..Want ask somethin about kubuntu..12:30
bill_kguess i'll try a wget, rebooting again12:30
flaccidbill_k: you have not tested my xorg.conf yet?12:31
ForMatterBill_k..12:31
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bill_kForMatter: my bluetooth mouse and keyboard work fine in recovery mode but something kills it when the login screen comes up12:31
bill_keven works in bios, there are hardware pairing buttons on both sides12:32
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bill_ki'll try to put that conf in with wget12:32
ForMatterHow to detecting modem on my notebook using kubuntu..I have motorola SM56 modem integrated,but was'nt detected..12:32
bill_klspci12:33
ForMatterPlease help me..12:33
ForMatterYes..12:33
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bill_khmm, havent done that modem12:33
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bill_kdoes it show up though'12:33
bill_k;?12:33
ForMatterBill_k12:33
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ForMatterI dont know where i must lookin for driver..12:34
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bill_kgoogle ubuntu + adapter name12:34
bill_kubuntu forums12:34
ForMatterSite address..12:35
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ForMatterBill_k..Are u using kubuntu too..12:35
bill_khttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235448 yes12:36
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bill_kForMatter: it looks like it may be very difficult to get the modem working, I guess even windows support was stopped years ago12:36
ForMatterWhere i find setting for login with root..12:36
flaccid!sudo12:36
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:36
ForMatterWith x-windows like in ubuntu before..12:37
ForMatterIn ubuntu,in login window there option for root login..In kubuntu i cant find it..12:38
Hc\\\!flash12:39
flaccidthats because you shouldn't login as root in X12:39
Hc\\\hmm12:39
Hc\\\how to get flash work?12:39
flaccid!flash12:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:40
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash12:40
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bill_kflaccid: did the wget but all the html crap is jumbled in12:40
flaccidbill_k: you'll have to edit and remove that shiz12:41
ForMatterSo..How about connect to the internet with w-lan..In wireless agent i have found some SSID but i cant connect it..12:41
bill_khow do I clear a line in nano?12:41
bill_kbeen holding the backspace key for minutes....12:41
flaccid!wireless > ForMatter12:41
flaccidbill_k: i don't know sorry12:41
bill_kcrap12:42
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bill_kflaccid: he has an unsupported motorola nic, at least according to ubuntuforums12:42
bill_ksupposedly windows support was stopped a while ago for it too12:42
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flaccidi'd buy or use a dif nic12:43
flaccid:)12:43
bill_kit's a modem :-p12:43
bill_kstill a nic12:43
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flaccidoh a modem is not a nic12:43
flaccidbut yeah12:43
flaccidinternal modem?12:44
bill_kit is too a network interface card12:44
bill_kjust not a 100base t nic12:44
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flacciddoesn't make it a nic12:45
flaccidbut yeah12:45
flaccidargumentative12:45
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flaccidjust because its a port doesnt make it an nic :) you bridge the modem onto a nic. but im no engineer :)12:46
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bill_klol12:46
bill_ka fiber optic gbic is a nic, but not in the most common sense12:47
bill_kwifi cards are nics12:47
bill_klol12:47
flaccidyes12:47
flaccidbut modems only modulate and de-modulate12:47
flaccidif it had a nick it would be a router and you would need to route that to the other nic..12:48
flacciderr nick=nic12:48
flacciddammit thats my dealers name, must be that time12:48
bill_koh12:49
bill_knevermind12:49
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bill_kgo buy ur drugz12:49
flaccidare you manually editing?12:49
anees_flaccid: hi...i want to update my firefox web browser12:50
anees_how can i do it12:50
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flaccidapt-get12:50
_4strOanees_: wich version have you ?12:51
_4strO( firefox -v)12:51
bill_kflaccid: i'm going to nap12:51
bill_kfor 3 hours12:51
flaccidok np12:51
flaccidi'm going for a few beers12:51
bill_ki'll be on later, thanks for your help12:52
flaccidi'll catcha(s) later12:52
flaccidnp12:52
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bill_kyup12:52
flaccidyou must be in US or something12:52
bill_kyeah12:52
flaccid21 is too late to drink12:52
bill_kwhere are you?12:52
bill_kit's 6am12:52
bill_klol12:52
flaccidim in australia12:52
flaccidon that little island on the bottom12:53
flaccidcalled tasmania12:53
flaccidand at the bottom of that12:53
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anees_flaccid: Firefox 1.5.0.1112:53
bill_kcool12:53
bill_kwhat time is it there?12:53
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_4strOanees_: you're on an edgy ?12:54
bill_k:)12:54
anees_ok...thanx12:54
bill_kflaccid: ok, really going to sleep this time, thank again12:55
flaccidTue Apr 17 20:54:56 EST 200712:55
flaccidnpz cya12:55
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flaccidcyas later12:55
alexiconhelllo12:57
alexiconi just rebooted my machine cos it froze, and now my wifi card has dissapeared12:57
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alexiconthe device doesnt show up anymore12:58
alexiconlooks like the driver is still there..12:58
alexiconany ideas where to start lookin?12:58
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_4strOalexicon: dmesg ?12:59
alexicongood idea, why didnt i think of that :P01:00
_4strOdmesg | grep ipw01:00
alexiconath im on atheros drivers01:00
alexiconand its saying stuff bout01:00
alexicondisagrees about version of symbol01:00
alexiconim running on patched drivers :/01:01
alexiconbut havent had a problem for 4 months01:01
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_4strOalexicon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?01:01
=== _4strO dont really what to do
_4strOnever had a wifi pb01:01
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alexiconcant cos without wifi i cant get online01:02
alexiconoh01:02
alexiconi could reverse my nat..01:02
alexiconthis is going to be hassle -_-01:02
_4strOexept for using aircrack01:02
alexiconyeah01:02
alexiconoh01:02
alexiconthats why i patched my drivers01:02
_4strO^^01:02
alexiconi can use packet injection01:02
alexiconthey wont give me an internet connection >_>01:02
alexiconso i *need* my wifi :P01:02
_4strODetected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection <-- not compatible :/01:03
alexiconyeah01:03
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alexiconi got a netgear pci card on my desktop01:03
alexiconits a beauty, instantly recognised by the system when i installed it, drivers patched no issues01:03
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alexiconmy computer has been acting funny though. unexplicably slow... firefox crashing all the time01:04
alexiconi should check my ssh logs... -_-01:04
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alexiconooooh idea. maybe it was because i did a full upgrade the other day. it tried to install the upgraded atheros drivers, and now conflicts with my patched ones or something01:07
_4strOhh possible01:08
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_JohnyHello.Is there any website where I could check whether my digital camera is recognized in Kubuntu?01:09
_4strO!camera01:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:10
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_4strO!webcam01:10
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras01:10
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_Johny_4strO: I didn't mean a webcam but a digital camera01:11
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_Johnythanks anyway01:11
posingaspopular_Johny: try googling the linux compatability list01:13
posingaspopularor ubuntuforums01:13
_Johnyposingaspopular: Ok, thanks. I just thought there was some kind o website01:13
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yaccinis there a bug in feistys recent xserver?01:24
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yaccini cant start gimp :/01:25
T0uCHHi.. does anybody knows how to enable transparency of the K menu in Kubuntu desktop (kde) ??01:26
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T0uCHHi.. does anybody knows how to enable transparency of the K menu in Kubuntu desktop (kde) ??01:38
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Marthyi believe it is on the same page as the desktop settings for changing the background and such01:40
T0uCHits not very complicated in this page.. but there is nothing about the k-menu transparency01:44
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Linux_Galore_install Vista Fonts in Linux, simple pre made script -> http://users.tpg.com.au/abdserv6/GetVistaFonts01:50
_JohnyLinux_Galore_: but for what?01:51
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Linux_Galore__Johny: It installs it for Linux and put them in the "users"  ~/.fonts  directory01:51
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Linux_Galore_puts*01:52
drknshello01:52
drknsi am new to linux and kubuntu01:52
Linux_Galore__Johny: got the idea from a BSD blog, then i just created a script that did all the steps01:52
_JohnyLinux_Galore_: Ah, ok. I just find it a bit useless to install vista fonts in Linux, but may be usefull to someone maybe /:01:53
drknsi figured out everything but wireless01:53
drknsmy pcmcia card wont seem to work01:53
drknscan someone help?01:53
Linux_Galore__Johny: when you get a file that needs them from a Vista user they are their01:53
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_JohnyLinux_Galore_: I'm not sure I got it..01:54
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drknshimmm help channel and noone answers01:55
Linux_Galore__Johny: Vista has some extra fonts installed as standard, some are very nice and they all begin with the letter "C",    now lets say a windows user running Office 2007 decides to use one of them you can reproduce the exact same look within Linux01:56
IdleOneanyone know where I could find addon scripts for konversation?01:56
IdleOne!wifi | drkns01:56
ubotudrkns: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:56
_Johnydrkns: If someone got and idea on how to help you would answer01:56
drknsok thanks01:56
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_Johnydrkns: Did you try to search on google through compatible devices wesites your card model?01:57
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Linux_Galore_drkns: the reason no one will answer is because your question is vague and you have not shown us that you have attempted to read up first01:58
drknsi have searched for it and it seems my card is supported through ndiswrapper and i have no idea to set it up that way01:59
drknsi am using kubuntu and it seems most sites goes the way for ubuntu01:59
Linux_Galore_drkns: ndiswrapper can be hit and miss01:59
drknsmy card is usr541101:59
Linux_Galore_drkns: Ive seen ndiswrapper not work with one kernel, downgrade or upgrade it to another version and it starts working02:00
_Johnyit's the same :) the difference is only windows manager (Kubuntu-KDE) (Ubuntu-GNOME), right?02:00
IdleOne!find libhunspell-1.1-002:00
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ubotuPackage/file libhunspell-1.1-0 does not exist in edgy02:00
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drknsi have another card that strats up but wont register to access point02:02
Linux_Galore_!hunspell02:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hunspell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:02
Linux_Galore_hmm02:02
_Johny!find ndiswrapper02:02
ubotuFound: ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-utils-1.1, ndiswrapper-utils-1.8, ndiswrapper-source (and 8 others)02:02
Linux_Galore_the package is in Universe stupid bot02:02
drknswell let me work on this link more02:02
drknsthanks guys02:02
Linux_Galore_IdleOne: its in universe libhunspell02:03
Linux_Galore_as hunspell02:03
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Linux_Galore_http://ftp.riken.go.jp/pub/Linux/ubuntu/pool/universe/h/hunspell/02:04
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Linux_Galore_!libhunspell-dev02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libhunspell-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
Linux_Galore_!find libhunspell-dev02:05
ubotuFound: libhunspell-dev02:05
Linux_Galore_lol02:05
Linux_Galore_!find hunspell02:05
ubotuFound: hunspell, hunspell-de-at, hunspell-de-ch, hunspell-de-de, libhunspell-dev (and 1 others)02:05
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IdleOneLinux_Galore_: ty for searching was looking to see what it was because I got a 'untrusted package warning" and wasnt sure where it belonged. was an update for iceApe browser ( not in repos yet )02:27
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Linux_Galore_your welcome, I was curious too02:28
Linux_Galore_I have a weird mental tic were if I see something I have to know the answer02:29
berkesdoes anyone know if its possible to use wildcards in the /etc/hosts file?02:29
IdleOneIceApe will be in feisty+1 #ubuntu-mozillateam02:29
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Linux_Galore_berkes: wouldnt know I have never tried it, cant see why not02:30
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IdleOneLinux_Galore_: Im trying to find addon scripts for Konversation to add some uncommon functionality like : IRC Oper script and such. you know of any?02:30
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Linux_Galore_IdleOne: no, I havent tried adding any to be honest02:31
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IdleOnewould think the homepage might have a few but I cant seem to find any02:32
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edgar0137hola02:47
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dromerhow can I mount a .bin file ?02:56
riamerrilcan somebody help me out here?02:56
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riamerrilI was looking at how to retrieve a list of rooms. specifically looking for a quizzing room02:56
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Tm_Triamerril: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat02:59
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Tm_Triamerril: does that page help you?02:59
riamerrilhey ! thanks .. actually i used the /list command03:00
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WillLuongodromer: http://www.jonhoweonline.com/blog/node/8203:00
riamerrilit got me a list of rooms which i filtered for quiz .. and im in there now :o)03:00
Tm_Triamerril: what I know about /list, it's too huge to used reasonable without search capability03:00
dromerWillLuongo: yeah I found that one, but I don't want to convert the file, also I don't have a .cue with the file03:01
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dromer!cdemu03:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:01
dromerhmm, I could try that ..03:02
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dromerthough it might be risky for me to start playing with kernel modules ..03:02
riamerril<Tm_T>me using konqueror .. and it has that capability .. to search i mean03:02
lucahi everybody03:02
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WillLuongohi luca!03:02
kubuntu22hello luca03:02
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lucahi :)03:03
lucadoes someone know how ubuntu runs on an ASUS F3P?03:03
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flaccidluca: i don't but asus motherboards tend to go pretty well03:03
Tm_Triamerril: no, I mean in irc /list03:03
lucaI am thinking about changing my laptop and I wanna avoid any problem, if possibleP03:03
lucathanks flaccid :)03:03
flaccidluca: im on an asus laptop03:03
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lucaany problem whatsoever? may I ask which model?03:04
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RealisticDragonmorning all03:04
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RealisticDragonis there a ppc install CD for kubuntu 7.04? cant see one on the d/loads page :o03:04
flaccidluca: sd card bridge not supported, but thats about it. this is on a asus w1000Na03:05
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abattoirRealisticDragon: of the RC?03:05
Tm_TRealisticDragon: PPC is not officially supported anymore, but there is a team building PPC stuff so...03:05
abattoiror a nightly?03:05
bobstroflaccid: did that work (the firefox thing)?03:05
abattoirhi Tm_T :)03:05
RealisticDragonTm_T: just for kubuntu, or for ubuntu as well? :o03:05
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riamerril<Tm_T> yeah thats correct. however I am using konqueror and that serves the purpose i suppose :o)03:05
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Tm_Triamerril: konqueror? you mean konversation ?03:06
flaccidbobstro: its a bug which the result needs dev from what i read, don't think you can anything now, but i didn't read it thoroughly03:06
Tm_TRealisticDragon: for Ubuntu atleast, no idea about Kubuntu part03:06
Tm_TRealisticDragon: but prolly that too03:06
lucaflaccid thank you very much...however, your model is indeed quite different from the F3P :(03:06
RealisticDragonyikes :/ good job efty works pretty well on my powerbook if its the last upgrade its getting for a while ;)03:06
bobstroflaccid: if you try opening a file through the menu, it (apparently sometimes) lets you decide there. that's what i did originally and didn't think much of it.03:06
Tm_Tabattoir: hello :)03:07
dromerWillLuongo: bchunk doesn't work since I don't have a .cue file03:07
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bobstroflaccid: i wonder if it's related to whether you did a fresh firefox install or upgrade though.03:07
dromer!bchunk03:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bchunk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:07
WillLuongodromer, sorry that is all I have...03:08
dromerkay03:08
dromeranybody else on mounting .bin files ?03:08
flaccidbobstro: from what ive read and experienced, its either03:08
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ubuntu_hi03:08
riamerril<Tm_T> yup konversation it is03:08
Tm_Triamerril: konqueror is web/filebrowser (and general powertool)03:09
flaccid!iso03:09
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.03:09
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flacciddromer: try that^^ should apply to bin files which are usually a .iso03:09
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riamerrilTm_T: sorry .. wanted to say konversation .. and typed konqueror ... am new to ubuntu and in general to linux03:10
enryhi03:10
ubuntu_quien habla espanol aqui03:10
dromerflaccid: mount: you must specify the filesystem type03:11
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Tm_Triamerril: no problemo, I tend to do such mistakes aswell03:11
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flacciddromer: what command are you running03:13
bobdhicksI tried to install Monkeyaudioplugin to k3b. When I did ./configure, got the following message: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check. What do I do now? Running 6.10 and I am a newbie.03:13
dromerflaccid: sudo mount -o loop <BIN-filename> <mountpoint>03:14
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Tm_Tbobdhicks: "sudo apt-get build-dep k3b03:14
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Tm_Tbobdhicks: then try again, though might not help you at all03:14
flacciddromer: without conversion of your .bin try this: sudo mount -t iso9660 myimage.bin /mnt/mymountpoint -o loop03:15
flaccidmake sure you mkdir mymountpoint as you want03:15
flaccidif that doesn't mount, you need to convert the bin to iso03:15
dromeryeah I already made a mountpoint for the file :)03:15
flaccidsweet03:15
dromerflaccid: mount: MP2_Install.bin is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)03:16
flaccidthats what i specified03:16
flaccidyou need that to mount an image03:16
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dromerhmm, guess I have to convert then :S03:16
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dromerdon't have cd's to burn anyway :P03:17
flaccidmaybe03:17
flacciduse http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion#bin2iso03:17
flaccidthen mount03:17
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dromerI'm trying to compile bin2iso (like on the website ubotu gave) but the program isn't working03:17
flaccidits on some occasions that .bin are actually a .iso but yeah03:17
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flaccid!info bin2iso03:17
ubotuPackage bin2iso does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas03:17
flaccidum03:17
flaccidok03:17
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dromerflaccid: I compiled the bin.iso.c with gcc03:18
flaccidwhats the issue?03:18
dromer$ gcc -o bin2iso bin2iso.c03:18
dromer$ bin2iso03:18
dromerbash: bin2iso: command not found03:18
flacciddromer: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:18
flaccidthen try03:18
flaccidneed gcc first03:19
dromerflaccid: build-essential is already the newest version.03:19
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flaccidwhat does whereis gcc return?03:19
dromergcc: /usr/bin/gcc /usr/lib/gcc /usr/X11R6/bin/gcc /usr/bin/X11/gcc /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz03:19
flaccidoh i misread03:20
flaccidbin2iso is not installed03:20
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flaccidyou have to d/l the c file first03:20
flaccidwget http://mange.dynup.net/linux/bin2iso/bin2iso.c03:20
flaccidthen try03:20
dromerI did that already03:21
flaccidthen its not in the pwd03:21
dromerdlled the .c to my desktop, then ran it with;  $ gcc -o bin2iso bin2iso.c03:21
flaccidie. the present directory03:21
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flacciddromer: what does pwd return?03:21
dromerI cd-ed to Desktop03:21
dromerjust pwd ?03:21
flaccidyeah03:21
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stdindromer: when you're running an app from the anywhere not in the $PATH, you need to give a path to it, eg ./bin2iso03:22
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dromer/home/user/Desktop03:22
flaccidhangon03:22
flaccidyou pasted two commands03:22
dromerstdin, ok thnx, now I get an awnser from bin2iso03:23
flacciddoum yeah03:23
dromerI thought the compile made the program readily available anywhere in the commandline03:23
flaccidooops sorry im drunk heh03:23
dromerhahaha03:23
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flacciddromer: oh sorry make install needed for that with a Makefile03:23
dromeroh ok03:23
flaccidso just mv it to /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin03:24
flaccidor a desired path in $PATH03:24
flaccidit should actually go in /usr/sbin but ubuntu breaks traditional heir so it doesn't matter03:24
flaccidanyway you can run it now and convert03:24
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flaccidstdin is good with the stdout :p03:25
flaccid:)03:25
stdin:D03:25
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dromerflaccid: you mean if I mv the compiled bin2iso to /usr/bin/ it'll run ok anywhere ?03:26
flacciddromer: yep03:27
dromeryay it works03:27
flacciddromer: what irc clien are you using ?03:27
dromertakes a while though :P03:27
flaccidyeah will take a while03:27
dromerflaccid: irssi, running from my server (debian etch)03:27
dromerflaccid: why?03:27
flaccidsweet03:27
flaccidjust curious03:27
dromerok :)03:28
dromerand you?03:28
flaccidkonversation03:28
flaccidbut i'm a shell head with quite a few terminal emulators going03:28
flacciddo this command: set | grep PATH03:28
flaccidthat is your path search03:29
stdinor just "echo $PATH" :)03:29
flaccidah yeah03:29
flaccidbut i wanted to return any other paths03:29
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dromerwhat?03:29
flaccidnot that any normal users have that set03:29
flaccidsoz03:30
flacciddon't worry i'm just blabbing03:30
stdinhehe03:30
flaccidfocus on your iso :)03:30
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flaccidsounds like fun03:30
dromer!cedega03:31
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega03:31
ForMatterMr.Flacid i need your help..How to i want to make a ping with between some computer with shell programming..03:32
dromerrefrase your question (or maybe find a channel in your native language), what are you trying ?03:33
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ForMatterFlaccid03:33
stdinshell programming or shell scripting ?03:33
bobdhicksWith help here, tried installing monkeyaudioplugin. Seemed ok through ./configure, but many warnings and errors with make. Here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16118/. Would someone suggest what I do now? Thanks.03:34
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ForMatterI am sorry with my languange..With shell programming..03:35
flaccidum put the command in a shell script03:35
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ForMatterYes,but i dont know about the shell script..03:36
flaccidheader is #!/bin/sh03:36
flaccidlean about shel scripting03:36
flaccid!find shell03:36
ubotuFound: coreutils, kviewshell, csh, dbishell, gforge-shell-ldap (and 15 others)03:36
stdinForMatter: commandline ping = ping03:36
_Johny!find autostart03:36
ubotuFound: kcontrol-autostart03:36
flaccid!shell03:36
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands03:36
flaccidthere you go ForMatter^03:36
stdinForMatter: eg: "ping -c1 host" will ping "host" 1 time03:37
_Johnyanything about making apps launch after system boots?03:37
stdin_Johny: system wide, or just for your user?03:37
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_Johnystdin: system wide03:38
_Johnystdin: ehm...both if possible03:38
flaccidwhat do you runna run on boot?03:39
ForMatterThanks flacid..03:39
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flaccidthank stdin03:40
_Johnyflaccid: I'd like to learn an easy way to add some apps to my autaostart (can be terminal as well)03:40
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flaccidhe gave you the example which you'll need to do otherwise the script is infinite until kill03:40
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drknshello again03:40
flaccidbut which apps _Johny?03:40
_Johnydrkns: HI03:40
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_Johnyflaccid: Katapult, for example03:41
stdin_Johny: for KDE you put links to applications you want to start in ~/.kde/Autostart/ (only really good for GUI apps)03:41
drknsi managed to light up my wirelesscard however i need to modify some config files under etc/ folder and ofcourse it wont let me update that file since it does not see me as sudo03:41
drknsis it possible to get su mode and edit this file visually??03:41
stdin_Johny: the package "kcontrol-autostart" will give you a GUI to do that, or you can do it in command line03:41
WillLuongodrkns: use kdesu and edit it03:42
_Johnydrkns: kdesu03:42
flaccid!autostart03:42
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.03:42
_Johnyflaccid: thanks03:42
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flaccid_Johny: you can do it via konqueror for gui i think03:42
drknshgimm thanks again fellas03:42
flaccid"Link to Application"03:42
stdinyeah, that will work03:42
flaccidKatapult is definately a user kde session only think03:42
_Johnyflaccid: means sym link doesn't it?03:42
stdinkde will read .desktop files too03:42
flaccidthink=thing.03:43
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flaccidyep John03:43
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_Johnyok03:43
flaccidthats pretty cool03:43
flaccid.desktop files become handy and portable03:43
flaccidcheers stdin03:43
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stdin:)03:43
flaccidironically03:43
flaccidthat file is parsed to stdin03:43
flaccidso no wonder you knew03:43
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stdineverything goes to stdin :P03:44
_JohnyI really like the katapult idea03:44
flaccidol03:44
flaccidlol03:44
flaccidmy l key is stuck from beer!03:44
_JohnyJust for curiosity - Does Gnome has an app similiar to "katapult"?03:44
flaccidwhat about stdout03:44
stdinmy keys are brown now, from all the coffee I spill on them :)03:44
flaccidhe doesn't get passed to you at al stdin. probably a good thing :p03:45
flaccidwell actually it good but its not a good practice03:45
stdin_Johny: no clue, I never use gnome for long, just long enough to install KDE03:45
flaccidyeah this is on my notebook its like risky but has survived03:45
_Johnyfine03:46
drknsok how am i going to get kdesu to work here???03:46
flacciddrkns: work where sorry03:46
stdindrkns: are you in the admin group?03:46
drknsi opened the file and made changes to it but cant save it03:46
WillLuongodrkns: you should be able to cd to the directory with the file you edit, then kdesu kate filename03:47
flacciddrkns: you will need to reopen it under the right user as in root. however you can save a copy then copy back.03:47
drknsthanks guys03:47
eagles0513875how do i stop the x server so that i can install the nvidia driver from nvidia03:47
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drknsyes i am admin03:47
jbruckman!kde03:48
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.03:48
jbruckman!monitor03:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:48
stdineagles0513875: go to tty1 (Crtl-Alt-F1) then loggin and type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"03:48
flaccideagles0513875: you don't need to stop the x server. only restart it when you have the new config ready03:48
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jbruckmanhey everyone, i'm having some troubles03:48
flaccidas per stdin03:48
stdineagles0513875: but use the driver from ubuntu instead03:48
flaccidreplace stop with restart :)03:48
eagles0513875it wont let me install it though flacid03:48
stdineagles0513875: it's more stable03:48
eagles0513875y stdin03:48
jbruckmanI just got my nvidia card to work correctly using the restricted modules and stuff, but now I can't get the right screen resolution03:48
flaccideagles0513875: install what exactly?03:49
eagles0513875ok when i did that it screwed up my whole system03:49
flaccidneed specifics03:49
eagles0513875install the driver so that direct rendering goes from being no to yes03:49
flaccidum03:49
stdinjbruckman: tried reconfiguring the X server?03:49
jbruckmanI can only have 640x800 or whatever, and a much bigger one, but the bigger one basically extends the desktop so that moving the mouse around just movesa 640x800 desktop around... I dunno how to describe it exactly03:49
jbruckmanstdin: dunno how.03:49
flaccidfeel free to show xorg.conf or /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:50
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stdinjbruckman: open a console or switch to a termanal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"03:50
flaccidjbruckman: and if that fails come back to us for manual config of the forementioned files03:51
stdinjbruckman: and notice the space between "xserver-xorg" and "-phigh"03:51
jbruckmani know how flags work.03:51
jbruckman:|03:51
jbruckmanthanks.03:51
WillLuongojbruckman:sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:51
WillLuongostdin: what does the -phigh do?03:51
WillLuongostdin: I got my prefered resolution back without it?03:51
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stdinWillLuongo: the -phigh only shows questions with a "high" or higher priority (ie the driver selection and the resolution)03:52
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WillLuongostdin: So basically you have to wade through less menus?03:52
flaccidthats a sweet switch03:53
stdinWillLuongo: exactly :)03:53
flaccidi didn't know that!!03:53
flaccidfar out03:53
WillLuongostdin: Nice. I wish I had known about that!03:53
flaccidso no sync ranges, stdin?03:53
stdinflaccid: no, that's at a lower priority03:53
WillLuongostdin, flaccid: on the Nvidia driver you can skip that by selecting medium rather than advanced.03:54
eagles0513875what nvidia pkg should i download03:54
flaccidok thanks03:54
WillLuongoeagles0513875: what kind of card do you have/03:54
eagles05138756600 gt03:54
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eagles0513875i have the driver from nvidia but it wants me to shutdown the xserver befor i install it03:55
stdineagles0513875: nvidia-glx (for newer cards) or nvidia-glx-legacy (for older cards), info on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia03:55
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ubuntudoes anybody know what the default password is on the 5.1 Live DVD03:55
eagles0513875i downloaded the new glx driver and it screwed up my whole installation03:55
stdinubuntu: there isn't one03:56
ubuntuyes there is03:56
ubuntuwhen i go on standby03:56
ubuntunot at login03:56
stdinubuntu: no, there isn't one, sorry03:56
ubuntuno03:56
ubuntuthere's no way for me to return to the desktop after going on standby03:56
WillLuongoeagles0513875: what he said. I think you just want nvidia-glx though.03:56
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WillLuongoeagles0513875: When I updated my nvidia drivers (i needed legacy) I had to manually reconfigure them afterwards.03:57
eagles0513875ahhhh03:57
eagles0513875ok03:57
stdinubuntu: you can switch to a terminal and set one tho, Ctrl-Alt-F1, and type "sudo passwd ubuntu"03:57
ubuntuit  has one user selection, "ubuntu" and a blank password will not work03:57
eagles0513875is there a wiki on how to set them up03:57
ubuntuthanks03:57
WillLuongoeagles0513875: you should be able to just go medium with all defaults03:57
eagles0513875ok03:57
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ubuntudoes switching terminals work while x is running?03:58
ubuntuI thought that usually killed x03:58
eagles0513875to install the nvidia driver just do sudo bash then name of file03:58
stdinubuntu: no, default X runs on tty7, leaving tty1-6 as terminals03:58
WillLuongoeagles0513875: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:59
eagles0513875is there a simple x cmd to stop x cuz the cmds i was given here dont seem to work03:59
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WillLuongoeagles0513875: you could boot into terminal.03:59
eagles0513875how03:59
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WillLuongoeagles0513875: when you get to the login screen, click the list thing on the left. Console or terminal will be one of your choices.03:59
eagles0513875ahhh ok04:00
eagles0513875gotcha ty04:00
WillLuongoeagles0513875: yw04:00
eagles0513875im not fully awak yet this am04:00
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ubuntustartx seems buggy from the terminal for me04:00
ubuntuon the livecd04:01
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stdinwhy do you need to do startx on a livecd?04:01
ubuntuI'm on someone elses laptop, and windows vista is worthless.04:01
ubuntusorry, too many dialogs at once here04:02
WillLuongoubuntu: Windows vista is worthless.04:03
stdinubuntu: btw, 5.10 is a very old version, use 6.06 or 6.10 (or even 7.04 now)04:03
ubuntuIs there a way to create a custom live DVD that contains a password so that I can return from standby without rebooting?04:03
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ubuntuor without setting a new password each time?04:04
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WillLuongoubuntu: I think there is some way to combine a live CD with settings stored on a flash drive, but I don't know how to do it.04:05
stdinubuntu: there us a way, but it's a bit involved, I think I can find you a link to a howto04:05
ubuntuhmm. . . sudo passwd ubuntu works04:08
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ubuntua new passwd on each boot will keep things secure I guess04:08
WillLuongoubuntu: Why don't you commit to a hard drive install?04:09
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stdinubuntu: you can use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization to do it, and set the password while in the chroot, but I've never tried it, and don't know if it will work04:09
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bobstroubuntu: you want to regularly boot ubuntu off his vista machine then?04:11
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bobstroubuntu: there have been articles about installing ubuntu onto a USB stick, then saving config details there.04:12
eagles0513875!aptfix04:12
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:12
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WillLuongoeagles0513875: anyluck?04:12
eagles0513875i needed to download libc pkg04:13
eagles0513875goign to try again04:13
eagles0513875brb yet again04:13
markrianIs it possible for kwallet to be opened automatically after logging in? gnome-keyring has this ability, with the help of libpam-keyring. The only reference to such a thing I've found is over two years old. Any ideas?04:15
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flaccidmarkrian: i'd ask that in #kde but you can always use autostart for sessions04:16
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Tm_Tanyone with extra time, please do http://test.openusability.org/UCCASS/survey.php?sid=4304:17
czer323markrian, I changed my password to a blank password for kwallet, and now it doesn't ask to be entered every time i turn the computer on.  It's the only thing I could find.04:18
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markrianflaccid: already on it ;o04:21
markrianczer323: I'd rather not leave kwallet's password blank...!04:21
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bobstromarkrian: is kwallet simply not starting automatically?04:22
czer323markrian, lol, well, if you figure something out, relay it back to me too. ;)04:22
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bobstromarkrian: you've got it enabled, right?04:22
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_Johny!find PATH04:25
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_JohnyHow can I add a line to my $PATH?04:25
Dr_willisthe various bash guides/docs detail that.. in short you EXPORT the new PATH variable with the extra dir added to the end or beginning04:26
Dr_willisexport PATH=$PATH:New/Path/TO/Add04:26
Dr_willisI think thats right.04:26
Dr_willisuse 'echo $PATH' to see what your current PATH is.04:27
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_JohnyDr_willis: Thank you very much and sorry for a out of topic question04:27
Dr_willisBash fundamentals. :)04:27
bobstro_Johny: ~/.bashrc is probably a good place for that to go.04:28
Dr_willis!abs04:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about abs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:28
markrianbobstro: sure, kwallet's enabled... but it seems to me that it should open automatically immediately after loggin in to KDE, which it doesn't04:28
Dr_willis!bash04:28
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands04:28
bobstromarkrian: ah, ok. wanted to make sure i understood what you were after.04:28
_JohnyDr_willis: I'm still learning:)04:28
Dr_willisThe 'advanced bash scripting guide' is worth googling for and bookmarking.  I think its also in the repos so you can install it locally.04:28
Dr_willisThat O'reialy book 'Using Bash' is also very very well worth gettting if you want to increase your Bash-Fu-Skills.04:29
bobstro_Johny: you might want to read the INVOCATION section in the bash manpage for where to put some of those sorts of things.04:29
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bobstromarkrian: i've got ssh-add launching in same way. i think that's what you're after right? just have it pop up and ask right away?04:30
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_Johnybobstro: thanks04:30
bobstro_Johny: if you look at your ~/.bash_profile, i believe it does what you're looking for.04:31
markrianbobstro: not really, I want kwallet to be smart enough to know that after logging in, I've already correctly identified myself, and should have to do so again to access my passwords04:31
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markrianErm, SHOULDN'T have to do so I mean04:31
bobstro_Johny: but ~/.bashrc (also called from ubuntu ~/.bash_profile) is called for all shells.04:31
bobstromarkrian: ah, ok.04:32
_JohnyDr_willis: Thank you , I managed04:32
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bobstroi suppose there's some logic behind the various bash rc files, but it can be annoying.04:33
adamwoodhas anyone in here bought a new pc or laptop with kubuntu pre-installed?04:33
Dr_willisbobstro,  part of it is the 'history' of how the shell has progressed. and files kept around for backwards compatiability04:34
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Dr_willisbobstro,  in short. one file .bash_profile - is ran by 'login' shells , the other .bashrc is ran by all the other shells.04:34
Dr_willisof course what different disrtos do with those files.. can get confusing.04:35
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bobstroDr_willis: true. it's just maddening when different distributions do things differently (e.g. sourcing -- or not -- .bashrc from .bash_profile)04:35
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Dr_willisyep.  Then you got the various alias's and bash-completion features that may or may not be enabled.04:35
bobstroDr_willis: *most* seem to be doing that, at least.04:35
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Dr_willisthen you got the 'fancy' ways some are using /etc/ and dirs to keep all these alias files and other setting  files seperate instead of one huge file04:36
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bobstroDr_willis: i spent a lot of time on shell scripting, but am trying to mend my ways. :) beating my head up against python now.04:37
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Dr_willisI know REXX better then i do most other scripting languages. :)04:38
Dr_willisold-skool04:38
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bobstroer... that was the IBM stuff, right?04:38
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bobstro1990-ish?04:38
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bobstrosorry, i'll drift OT with you if you let me.04:38
Dr_willisI used it on my AMIGA. :)04:39
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bobstrohehe, ok. my mind is going.04:39
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Dr_willisit was a darn handy 'glue' back then to get stuff from the editors to the database programs and so forth.04:39
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bobstroall those glorious "standards" pre-MS dominance.04:39
Dr_willisa feature i sort of miss in linux apps.04:39
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bobstroi need to find a #nostalgic_geek channel04:40
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Tm_T...04:40
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ZoohouseHello everyone04:41
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Daisuke_IPFWwell now, it looks like i finally managed to get ssh working :)04:41
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ZoohouseIs there a way/player that can play DRM mp3s? I would like to listen to an ebook but I need something to play the drm files04:41
bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: good deal. what were you doing?04:41
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ZoohouseMy mistake, I mean DRM WMA files, not MP304:42
Daisuke_IPFWbobstro: just got it set up so i can get to what i need on the home pc from the restrictive connections at school.04:42
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Daisuke_IPFWpoor kai04:42
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cl187anyone know how i can use the apt command from shell to update kernel and do i need any special repositories?04:42
bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: ah fun. have you got a socks proxy going yet?04:42
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stdinZoohouse: no, DRM and Linux don't work04:42
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bobstroZoohouse: seriously, boycot the DRM stuff!04:42
Daisuke_IPFWbobstro: not yet, i suppose i should probably figure out how, huh?04:42
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bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: check out the -D option. you may be in violation of school policy though.04:43
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Tm_Tthat was bit noisy one04:43
Daisuke_IPFWhmm, one thing i haven't figured out is multiple terminal sessions in putty04:44
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Layer8hi all04:44
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stdinDaisuke_IPFW: then use konsole :)04:44
Dr_willisDaisuke_Ido,  i awways just use 'screen'04:44
Layer8some samba-people here?04:44
Daisuke_IPFWstdin: would be nice if i were on a linux machine :)04:44
eeanhehe yea, I've never used putty in linux04:44
Dr_willisLayer8,  lots of samba users :)04:44
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stdinDaisuke_IPFW: ahh, then screen is the way for you04:44
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Layer8Dr_willis yeah...but sone samba and kerberos pros?04:45
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bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: with putty, you can just duplicate the session, but you have to re-auth for each.04:45
Daisuke_IPFWthat's what i figured04:45
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Dr_willisLayer8,  ive never used Kerberos - so cant help ya there.04:45
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bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: although you could use keys, ssh-add if you don't want to log in for each.04:45
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stdinDaisuke_IPFW: screen lets you login once, but have multiple shells going04:46
Daisuke_IPFWscreen, huh04:46
stdin!screen04:46
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen04:46
bobstrostdin: aye, and you can leave sessions running when you exit!04:46
Douglashi.. i got intel video in my laptop, i'd like to get the console into high-res mode. I did this with ati once, think it involved some framebuffer thing. any ideas?04:46
Daisuke_IPFWi'd rather not leave any sessions running04:46
bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: definitely check it out if you want to launch stuff, come back to it later.04:46
stdinyep, then reattach from another location too :)04:46
bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: you essentially background them. certainly not required.04:46
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Zoohousebobstro: ehhhh I guess you'r right... damn audio books....04:47
bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: you just want remote shell, or to get out for other reasons?04:47
bobstroZoohouse: DRM is evil. completely contrary to the whole "computing ethic". they want you to be a subscriber to listen.04:48
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Daisuke_IPFWi was just looking for a remote shell04:48
bobstroZoohouse: you can buy CD audiobooks and just rip them as an alternative. which DRM/audiobooks?04:48
FJ_SanchezHow can I speak with an Freenode admin?04:48
bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: ah, ok. then i guess you're set already.04:48
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stdinZoohouse: only way to get rid of DRM (without using some illegal software) that I know of it burning the files to CD (as audio disk, not data disk), then re-rip them04:48
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Daisuke_IPFWit's more or less just a workaround for the problem of not being able to connect to irc servers via the campus network04:49
bobstroZoohouse: audible and others let you burn a cd.04:49
RebeccaAnyone here used a Logitech Quickcam Express with Kubuntu and if so, was it successful?04:49
bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: ah, then set up a socks proxy with putty and you can use a pretty desktop gui irc client.04:49
LeeJunFanFJ_Sanchez: if you go to the freenode page in the FAQ section it mentions a channel - #staff possibly?04:49
ForMatterBobstro,i want ask about shell programming to do ping with each computer in my network..04:49
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FJ_SanchezLeeJunFan: Thanks, I should check this page04:49
bobstroForMatter: you just want to ping, or you want to do something depending on whether it responded?04:50
Dr_willisForMatter,  you want to do exactly what - with pinging each computer?04:50
stdinFJ_Sanchez: join #freenode-social and ask for a staffer04:50
Daisuke_IPFWbobstro: i'll have to look into it, but i'm more or less okay with irssi04:50
pooofits kubuntu 7.10 estable?04:50
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Daisuke_IPFWpooof: magic 8-ball says "try again in 6 months"04:50
FJ_Sanchezstdin: I tried this channel, but I cannot speak. no voice04:50
bobstroForMatter: ping provides a return code, or you might want something else.04:50
gnomefreakpooof: hasnt been started yet. 7.04 is current rc04:50
Zoohousebobstro: yea but audio books are expansive. I am trying to listen to the books on Librarynet.com. They use DRM as a way to check out econtent like a physical library.04:50
VSpikeForMatter: if you want to test which hosts are up, you could try nmap04:50
stdinFJ_Sanchez: wait a while, you'll get voice, or you can PM a staffer too04:50
LeeJunFanpooof: well, it's to be released in 2 days I think, so for all intents and purposes what I'm using now is final.04:50
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Dr_willisSo far im finding the beta/current version of Feisty to work fine04:51
ForMatterWith shell progamming, i want make a script that can ping to other computer..04:51
poooftnx04:51
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bobstroZoohouse: ah, not sure about those. hmm. get a player that has mic record and hold it up to the speakers? :)04:51
FJ_Sanchezstdin: How can I know who are staffers?04:51
bobstroZoohouse: or use line-in.04:51
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stdinFJ_Sanchez: look here http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff04:51
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Dr_willisForMatter,  ok.. and what else is this script to do?04:51
FJ_SanchezThere is no one OP04:51
bobstroForMatter: you can just do the ping command in your script as others suggested earlier if that's all you want.04:51
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bobstroForMatter: or you can have it branch and do things depending on success/failure of ping.04:52
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stdinFJ_Sanchez: /who freenode/staff/* will give you a list04:52
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Zoohousebobstro: haha yea :D04:52
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bobstroForMatter: you might want to use fping, since it's meant more for scripts.04:52
VSpikeForMatter: hate to say, but at least half the problem with programming is clearly defining and undertanding the problem/requirements04:53
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ForMatterBobstro : i want how to make a ping to other computer with shell script..And if it worked can display message with ourself..04:53
Daisuke_IPFWhmm04:53
bobstroVSpike: unless you're in marketing.04:53
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Dr_willisForMatter,  check out 'fping' then.04:53
Dr_willis!info fping04:53
ubotufping: sends ICMP ECHO_REQUEST packets to network hosts. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4b2-to-ipv6-14 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 120 kB04:53
Daisuke_IPFWputty supports X11 forwarding, going to have to figure out how that works with windows.04:53
VSpikebobstro: true :) in which case, at least half the problem is the stupid programmers who get all mathy when you tell them what you promised the customer he could have next week04:54
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Dr_willisDaisuke_Ido,  you need to use somthing like 'xming' to let X have some place to forward to. :)04:54
bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: if you use the socks client capability, you can use any socks-aware app through your tunnel.04:54
Dr_willisDaisuke_Ido,  been doing that for months now.04:54
stdinDaisuke_IPFW: you need to install a X server for windows to get it working, I have done it before04:54
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bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: are computers at school win or linux?04:54
Daisuke_IPFWwin04:54
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Daisuke_IPFWhome pc's linux04:54
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bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: x under windows is cool, but if you just want to use otherwise-blocked win apps, the socks proxy is perfect.04:55
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bobstroDaisuke_IPFW: think of it as poor-man's VPN via ssh.04:55
Daisuke_IPFWheh04:55
ForMatterBobstro : i need the source shell script..04:55
VSpikeI use xming + openssh + cygwin to remote access my main box from work (windows) laptop04:55
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livingdaylightITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!04:56
bobstroForMatter: check out the bash scripting guides Dr_willis suggested. there's a LOT to that topic that is not specific to ubuntu.04:56
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ForMatterBobstro : please..I need your help..04:56
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mikeymorning folks.  Is there any other file explorer to use than Konq?04:57
bobstroForMatter: as VSpike said, please clearly state what exactly you want to do. otherwise, i can only suggest bash scripting guides.04:57
Tm_Tmikey: yes, multiple, like Dolphin04:57
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Daisuke_IPFWdolphin looks promising04:58
Daisuke_IPFWhaven't tried it yet though04:58
mikeyI'll have a look at that one, ty04:58
mikeykonq seems a bit bloated for simply accessing drives and files04:58
bobstroForMatter: try here for example - http://steve-parker.org/sh/exitcodes.shtml04:58
Tm_Tmikey: depends, for me it's only "good" filebrowser, for lighter needs I have bash04:59
mikeyDolphin in standard repos?04:59
Tm_T!dolphin04:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
Tm_T!info dolphin04:59
ubotudolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB04:59
mikeybash is command line, yes?04:59
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Tm_Tmikey: yes04:59
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CapaHTo go from Ubuntu to Kubuntu one merely types: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   correct?05:00
stdinCapaH: yes05:00
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reydelsillonH people. Ive recently switched over from xp to kubuntu. nice graphics :) - I got 2 hardisk instaled on the machine. a Sata disk and a Ide disk. for some reason i cant see the ide disk (that has a ntfs partition) when im using kubuntu. I thought kubuntu should automount all disk an partitions.05:02
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stdinreydelsillon: what does "sudo fdisk -l" show ( in konsole), post it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:03
stdinl is a lowercase L05:03
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jhutchins!ntfs | reydelsillon05:04
ubotureydelsillon: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:04
reydelsillonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16131/05:04
kubuntu22!fuse05:04
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse05:04
Daisuke_IPFWshouldn't the trigger for ntfs write access be !masochist ?05:04
WillLuongoDaisuke_IPFW: yes05:05
stdinreydelsillon: /dev/hdd1 is your NTFS partition05:05
reydelsilloni want it ofcourse to be read/write :)05:05
stdinreydelsillon: so follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse and use /dev/hdd1 for the partition05:05
reydelsillonyes is ee that. but why dont it apear as storage media?05:06
stdinreydelsillon: because it's not in /etc/fstab maybe05:06
WillLuongoreydelsillon: there is a .hidden file in / that you need to delete to see it in Konqueror.05:06
stdinnope05:07
stdinjust edit it05:07
stdindon't delete it05:07
Dr_willis!hidden05:07
ubotuKubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)05:07
reydelsillonim gonna read the guide first.05:07
reydelsillonI BE BACK!05:07
Dr_willisIts such a good feature its being removed! :)05:07
WillLuongoDr_willis: too bad Microsoft won't do that.05:07
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stdinhmm, that needs a 's/will be/has been/' soon05:08
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WillLuongostdin: /.hidden is symbolic link - we should probably not edit the link, but rather suggest users to remove symbolic link and replace it with empty /.hidden file or only list files they want have hidden. -- LukaRenko 2006-10-27 17:50:3705:09
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mikeyntfs-3g unsafe?  Guess I should tread lightly I've ben using it a few weeks05:09
reydelsillon ---- shoudl i enter this comand as it is? or does the line start with sudo?bash:~$ sudo modprobe fuse05:09
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stdinWillLuongo: no, because the upgrade will remove the symlink, and if it's not there, dpkg has an error05:09
Dr_willisbash:~$  - is the example SHELL PROMPT.05:10
WillLuongostdin: I see.05:10
Dr_willisthe command is after the $05:10
reydelsillonah ok.05:10
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JuJuBeeSomeone help me with iptables?  Before vacation, I had a server running dansguardian squid and iptables working fine.  When I returned the server was off (power outage) and my students cannot access the internet.  iptables -L -v shows no rules set.05:10
WillLuongoIs it worth upgrading to feisty?05:10
Dr_willisWillLuongo,  if you need its features - yes. :) if you dont need any of its features.. i guess not.05:11
JuJuBeeI had  ---  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 808005:11
stdinWillLuongo: I'd wait untill it comes out, just in case05:11
JuJuBeeIt does not seem to take now when I enter it.05:11
WillLuongoDr_willis: other than the directory hidden feature, what has changed?05:11
Dr_willisWillLuongo,  about every thing has been updated to the latest versions. :)05:12
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stdinand kernel 2.6.20 is faster than 2.6.17 (IMO)05:12
Dr_willisso.. i guess you could say about eveyrthing has changed..05:12
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reydelsillonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/05:14
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livingdaylightIs Kubuntu rocking?05:14
reydelsilloni dont understand05:14
kubuntu22livingdaylight: yes05:15
livingdaylightwhenever i mention Ubuntu+kde people tell me to use Mepis05:15
bobstroJuJuBee: did you have that in an init script?05:15
Daisuke_IPFW...why in $DEITY's name would they do that?05:15
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reydelsillonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/05:15
Daisuke_IPFWi seriously doubt anyone here would have told you that.05:15
JuJuBeebobstro : no, how do I make the rules set at startup?05:15
livingdaylightis the new kde 3.5.5 really awesome?05:15
bobstrolivingdaylight: i used meps a couple of years ago. it's fine, but i much prefer kubuntu.05:15
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Daisuke_IPFWthe "new" kde is 3.5.6, and it's nice.05:16
reydelsillonbad file.... here! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16134/05:16
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livingdaylightbobstro: what makes you say that? I heard many times that Mepis does kde better05:16
mikeydebian seems a bit faster than kubuntu.  Anyone have the same experience?05:16
bobstroJuJuBee: usually, you launch your firewall etc. in the initscripts at book. ubuntu comes with several programs that will help with this (e.g. firestarter).05:16
livingdaylighti've always used gnome and therefore ubuntu, but i might like to check out kde 3.5.5 see what is going on that is new05:16
stdinreydelsillon: you need to make the directory first "sudo mkdir /media/hdd1"05:17
JuJuBeeI'm new to setting up a firewall, should I install firestarter on server?05:17
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bobstrolivingdaylight: kde, perhaps. the problem -- and again this was two years ago -- was that mepis wasn't "exactly debian", so i found things broke. same can be said for kubuntu, but MUCH BROADER support.05:17
livingdaylightKubuntu is a bit of a secondary project at Canonical?05:17
bobstroJuJuBee: to be clear - you want to set up a NAT firewall for classroom machines, right?05:17
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reydelsillonah..... ther it is05:18
bobstroJuJuBee: you want to redirect them to a proxy?05:18
JuJuBeeI simply want to redirect all port 80 traffic to go through Dandguardian and Squid.05:18
JuJuBeeI want a transparent proxy.05:18
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reydelsillonnice. now i need to have access to it. i have no permition to write/read on it.05:18
stdinlivingdaylight: no, kubuntu = ((ubuntu-gnome)+kde). it's as official as ubuntu is05:18
bobstroJuJuBee: ah. there are howtos on that. i think what happened is that your iptables commands weren't in a script to be re-run at boot.05:18
reydelsillonand make the change permanent05:19
mikeyworks calls.  see all later.05:19
reydelsillonthats the fstab file, right? and use this comand? -/dev/hda1     /media/hda1    ntfs-fuse       auto,gid=1002,umask=0007       0       005:19
JuJuBeebobstro : I think so too.  When I tried to enter the command, iptables still shows empty.05:19
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JuJuBeeI had  ---  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 808005:19
JuJuBeeWhen I enter it now, still empty...05:19
bobstroJuJuBee: no errors then?05:20
livingdaylightShould Adept be immediately ditched and replaced in favour of Synaptic?05:20
bobstroJuJuBee: my iptables is rusty... but i thought port stuff wasn't in nat. lemme check.05:20
JuJuBeeNo errors.05:20
livingdaylightstdin: no way. Gnome is ubuntu's first love05:20
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JuJuBeebobstro : all the how-to's say to use -t nat...05:21
stdinlivingdaylight: and your point is?05:21
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Daisuke_IPFWlivingdaylight: no, adept should not be ditched05:21
livingdaylightstdin: that therefore more care goes into ubuntu05:21
stdinlivingdaylight: nope05:21
bobstroJuJuBee: ok, it's been awhile. and you're doing iptables -nvL -t nat to view?05:21
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_JohnyIs anyone using his digital camera in Kubuntu?05:22
stdinlivingdaylight: even mark uses kubunru05:22
livingdaylightDaisuke_IPFW: last time i used kubuntu everyone avoided adept, it was not as good as synaptic, has it been improved05:22
Daisuke_IPFWit's gotten a lot better05:22
stdinmark as in mark shuttleworth05:22
JuJuBeeAh, was doing iptables -L -v, without the -t nat.  There the little buggers are.05:22
Daisuke_IPFWespecially with the feisty release05:22
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livingdaylightstdin: is that true? or just a rumour?05:22
bobstroJuJuBee: ah, ok. good. sounds like it *is* being run then.05:22
stdinlivingdaylight: he's said it in interviews05:22
WillLuongoI am experiencing unusually slow internet connection on my KUBuntu box. Other computers on the network seem unaffected. Any ideas?05:22
livingdaylightstdin: a long time ago.05:23
stdinWillLuongo: disable IPv605:23
bobstroWillLuongo: no tor proxy?05:23
stdinlivingdaylight: a week or two ago actually05:23
livingdaylightstdin: maybe he uses SuSE now05:23
WillLuongostdin: how can I disable IPv605:23
stdin!ipv6 | WillLuongo05:23
ubotuWillLuongo: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv405:23
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livingdaylightstdin: oh, i didn't read that interview, you know where?05:23
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reydelsillonwhat is the comand for editing fstab?05:24
stdinlivingdaylight: it was a podcast interview, on the linux-action-show, http://www.linuxactionshow.com/?p=10005:24
reydelsilloni dont know where its located.05:24
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stdinreydelsillon: (easiest way): kdesu kate /etc/fstab05:25
bobstrostdin: is that a decent podcast?05:25
bobstrostdin: i've got too many linux shows already but always can replace a dud.05:25
reydelsillonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16135/05:26
stdinbobstro: yeah, it's quite a good one, one of the few I regularly listen to05:26
JuJuBeebobstro : so now that it is in the iptables, I should be able to view the log with tail -f /var/log/squid/access.log , but nothing shows when I try to browse from a student workstation...05:26
bobstrostdin: thanks, adding it tomy list.05:26
bobstroJuJuBee: nothing shows, as in it fails?05:26
livingdaylightstdin: thanks amigo05:26
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stdin:)05:26
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JuJuBeebobstro : cannot browse from student computer and nothing show sin the log...05:27
WillLuongostdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16136/05:27
WillLuongostdin: any ideas?05:27
bobstroJuJuBee: hmm. ok, that command looks like it just changes the dport, but again i'm rusty with iptables. everything's ok with squid?05:28
stdinWillLuongo: that's the standard wacom errors, nothing to worry about. you can get rid of them if you want05:28
stdin!baddevice05:28
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors05:28
JuJuBeeI think so...  How can I check?05:28
bobstroJuJuBee: *anything* in logs?05:28
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reydelsillonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16135/05:28
bobstroJuJuBee: make sure htey're running etc.05:29
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stdinreydelsillon: yeah, logout of the root session, just type "exit"05:29
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JuJuBeeDG and Squid are running.05:29
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bobstroJuJuBee: hmm. i'm looking at this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32073305:30
bobstroJuJuBee: there is a note about transparent mode broken in edgy. have you upgraded recently?05:31
JuJuBeeUsing Feisty05:31
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bobstroJuJuBee: did you use a howto when setting it up? also, has it worked since you went to feisty (if you upgraded)?05:33
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bobstroJuJuBee: there are a lot of variations in how it can be set up.05:34
JuJuBeeYes, used a how-to and yes it did work.  only thing that changed was power outage.05:34
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bobstroJuJuBee: ok. which howto?05:34
JuJuBeeSeveral, Ones from ubuntuforums, and others...05:34
bobstroJuJuBee: the power outage makes me think an init script isn't getting run, but it sounds like at least your iptables setup ran.05:35
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WillLuongobrb05:36
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wienczny_hi05:36
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wienczny_Where can I configure the items shown in the kde-logout screen?05:37
bobstroJuJuBee: i had expected to see a destination IP in that iptables command but that probably varies by setup.05:38
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reydelsillonwhat does this mean? root@tulkas-desktop:~# sudo mount -a05:38
reydelsillon[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab05:38
JuJuBeebobstro : funny thing is that I can browse to an internal webserver, just not outside the classroom.05:38
bobstroJuJuBee: it looks to me like that iptables command is re-writing the destination PORT but not the IP.05:38
Cosmo_I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found anyone know how to fix this?05:38
stdinreydelsillon: just add an empty new line to the end of /etc/fstab05:38
bobstroJuJuBee: are all the outside access requests going through your linux box?05:38
JuJuBeeYes, all requests...05:39
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JuJuBeeI am hijacking port 80 traffic and filtering it.05:39
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bobstroJuJuBee: again, looks like dest port is being re-written, but *not* redirecting to the proxy IP. not knowing your setup, i'm speculating here.05:39
bobstroJuJuBee: well, you're definitely re-writing the dest port.05:39
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reydelsillonok its passed.05:39
reydelsillonthanks05:39
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reydelsilloni double click at the hdd icon and get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd105:40
bobstroJuJuBee: i'd have expected it to also specificy the proxy IP address in the re-write. looking at that, i suspect a tcpdump on the outside would show the request going to destination in URL but with dest port 8080.05:40
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Rebeccais there an option for setting up a software based, 2 drive striped raid array when installing?05:41
JuJuBeebobstro : sorry, you lost me...05:41
wienczny_I would like to forbid some users to do a shutdown from the kde-logout dialog. how can I do that?05:41
bobstroJuJuBee: your iptables command doesnt' specify a destination IP, just a port to re-write.05:41
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JuJuBeecorret, but port 8080 is dansquardian.05:42
bobstroJuJuBee: but on what machine?05:42
JuJuBeeSame.05:42
bobstroJuJuBee: and what is telling NAT that?05:42
JuJuBeedg, squid, iptables all on same machine.05:42
bobstroJuJuBee: sorry, not trying to confuse.05:42
WillLuongoI removed the wacom and ipv6 and reset. Now I don't have graphical login (KDM/05:43
bobstroJuJuBee: but... that nat command appears to re-write ONLY the dest port.05:43
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WillLuongoand I can't startx05:43
reydelsillonmust i had this piece to the fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138/  i dont have nvidia........05:43
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bobstroJuJuBee: in other words, was there a 2nd iptables command perhaps?'05:43
JuJuBeeNo, I only had the one.05:43
bobstroJuJuBee: is eth0 your INSIDE or OUTSIDE interface?05:44
_JohnyThe problem is, when I switch to another session, or try to lock one my screen goes black, everything hangs and the unique solution is to reboot the machine..05:44
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_JohnyI'm using 2.6.17-11-generic kernel and running Kubuntu edgy 6.10 with fglrx drivers05:44
bobstroJuJuBee: for example, in http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-setup-transparent-proxy-squid-howto.html they show "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp dport 80 -j DNAT to 192.168.1.1:3128" (note the dest ip) for the INSIDE interface.05:45
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JuJuBeeCurrently both until I receive another ethernet card.05:45
makii have problem with alsa05:45
reydelsilloni double click at the hdd icon and get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd105:45
reydelsillonmust i had this piece to the fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138/  i dont have nvidia........05:45
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wienczny_WillLuongo: cat you post the end of /var/log/Xorg.log to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:45
makiarecord05:46
makiALSA lib pcm_dsnoop.c:558:(snd_pcm_dsnoop_open) unable to open slave05:46
makiarecord: main:550: audio open error: Device or resource busy05:46
JuJuBeebobstro : yes.  some how-to's use -DNAT and others do not.  The one I followed did not and it worked.  AT lease it worked last week.05:46
bobstroJuJuBee: er, wait. is this linux box a router to the outside?05:46
lyamwhere can i set path to java in firefox? it seems firefox cant find it05:46
WillLuongowienczny: I am not on the KUbuntu computer. Is there a way to do that from a terminal?05:46
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bobstroJuJuBee: this one DOES use DNAT though - "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp dport 80 -j DNAT to 192.168.1.1:3128" (what you wrote earlier).05:47
bobstroer wups05:47
bobstrowrong paste, sorry05:47
JuJuBeebobstro : not exactly.  It is attached to my wifi router (switch on back).  All workstations are using wireless.05:47
wienczny_WillLuongo: mmh. should be.05:47
JuJuBeeNo, I did not use DNAT.05:47
HymnToLifeWillLuongo, not on the Ubuntu pastebin (that I know of) but you could always put it somewhere else05:47
JuJuBee--to-port 808005:47
jhutchinsWillLuongo:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands05:47
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bobstroJuJuBee: yeah, my bad.05:47
jhutchinsWillLuongo: Are you accessing the system vi ssh or telnet?05:48
WillLuongojhutchins: I am sitting at a computer next to the one with Kubuntu05:48
WillLuongojhutchins: so I am directly logged in, with no GUI05:48
jhutchinsWillLuongo: Ok, so ... were you asking how to get the X.0.log info to the pastebin?05:49
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WillLuongojhutchins: From the terminal, yes.05:49
jhutchinstry less +G /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:49
wienczny_WillLuongo: do you have ssh etc. running on the ubuntu-machine? then you could copy it over and past from the win machine...05:49
WillLuongowienczny_: I do not know05:50
jhutchinsWillLuongo: You should be able to copy text from the terminal and paste it to the pastebin.05:50
WillLuongojhutchins: how do I get to pastebin with no web browser?05:50
jhutchinsWillLuongo: Oh. So the computer you're on is not actually logged in to the linux box.05:51
reydelsilloni double click at the hdd icon and get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd105:51
reydelsillonmust i had this piece to the fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138/  i dont have nvidia........05:51
WillLuongojhutchins: correct.05:51
jhutchinsWillLuongo: enter the command lynx, see if it does anything.05:51
WillLuongojhutchins: I am using my windows box to ask for help with my broken Kubuntu box. :D05:51
WillLuongolynx?05:51
WillLuongook05:51
wienczny_WillLuongo: get winscp or putty an login to the ubuntu-machine.05:51
bobstroJuJuBee: well, without knowing more details, all i can suggest is looking at that iptables command. i just entered it, and it re-writes the ports but not the destination ip.05:51
bobstroJuJuBee: also if that machine is not the gateway, do you need to set up browsers to use it as a proxy?05:52
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WillLuongojhutchins: nope05:52
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WillLuongowienczny_: Do I need to do anythign to turn on ssh?05:53
JuJuBeeThat machine is currently set as teh gateway for the computers05:53
bobstroJuJuBee: again, a lot varies depending on how you set it up. sorry i can't help more.05:53
wienczny_I'm not sure if ssh is installed by default...05:53
jhutchinsWillLuongo: You may need to do /etc/init.d/ssh start05:53
jhutchinswienczny_: Installed but not active iirc.05:53
WillLuongojhutchins: it says no such file or directory.05:54
WillLuongojhutchins: can I apt-get?05:54
wienczny_jhutchins: openssh-server ist installed?05:54
jhutchinsYou can also install telnetd.05:54
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jhutchinsWillLuongo: Yes.  If you don't have an ssh client on your windows box, install telnetd instead.05:55
WillLuongojhutchins: I have ssh client, but no server on Kubuntu it appears05:55
wienczny_WillLuongo: aptitude install openssh-server should do that05:55
jhutchinsNot sure telnetd actually does anything useful, glad you have ssh.05:56
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reydelsillonstdin: you here?05:58
stdinreydelsillon: for a couple mins, yeah05:59
Sharketorhello all05:59
reydelsilloni got stuck.05:59
reydelsilloni double click at the hdd icon and get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd105:59
WillLuongowienczny_: Do I need to do any configuration?05:59
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reydelsillonmust i had this piece to the fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138/  i dont have nvidia........05:59
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wienczny_WillLuongo: it should work out of the box06:00
stdinreydelsillon: just have the "fuse" part, not the rest06:00
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stdinreydelsillon: and show what "ls -ld /media/hdd1" shows06:00
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dwidmann!!!!!06:01
dwidmannCrap, not again!06:01
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wienczny_WillLuongo: is a sshd process running?06:01
reydelsillonstdin: i added fuse to the last line.06:01
reydelsilloni still get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd106:02
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WillLuongowienczny_: how can I find out? When I tell it to start it says open fail06:02
stdinreydelsillon: show what "ls -ld /media/hdd1" shows06:02
wienczny_WillLuongo: ps aux | grep sshd should give two results06:02
dwidmannSeems the Nvidia-glx module is broken yet again :( And right on top of release day too06:02
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FrozenPlasmaHello! I just installed Kubuntu 7 without problems - but when i try to boot into kubuntu nothing happens. I can choose the OS in grub an after the black screen with the kubuntu logo appears...but nothing else. Do I have to type sth. before startig? I rememeber sth. like "aspi ??!"?06:03
WillLuongowienczny_: yes it does06:03
reydelsillonstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16141/06:03
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wienczny_WillLuongo: one line ending in /usr/sbin/sshd? Then its running and you should be able to connect06:03
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WillLuongowienczny_: yes06:04
dwidmannFrozenPlasma: try pressing "Ctrl + alt + F2" and it should give you a terminal, you hope.06:04
WillLuongowienczny_: is there a way I can double check my IP?06:04
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stdinreydelsillon: did you add "fuse" to /etc/fstab or /etc/modules ?06:05
hegemon_hello. I ve got some problems with adept ;/ Can you help me or redirect somewhere else where somebody can help me?06:05
FrozenPlasmadwidmann: and then?06:05
wienczny_WillLuongo: ip addr show06:05
reydelsilloni addes only the line "fuse" to the end of fstab06:05
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dwidmannFrozenPlasma: and then log in, type "startx", and see what error you're getting, supposing you're getting an error when trying to start x06:05
stdinreydelsillon: no, add it to the end of /etc/modules, not fstab06:05
_JohnyCan "katapult" open a whole album in Amarok?06:05
reydelsillonahhhhh ok.06:05
wienczny_WillLuongo: there ist an entry for eth0 or any other device you are using. there should be a line with your ip06:05
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WillLuongowienczny_: I am in. Turns out I had the wrong IP06:06
FrozenPlasmaok - i'll try. see you in a few minutes :)06:06
stdinreydelsillon: then show me the line you added to fatab (the one with /dev/hdd1 on it)06:06
wienczny_WillLuongo: Then just get the contents of the Xorg.0.log and paste it06:07
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bobstroJuJuBee: one last try. do you see rule being hit when you view iptables?06:08
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hegemon_My adept manager won't start. it complains taht some other process is using dbase but i killed all apt and adept related processes. What should I do?06:08
reydelsillon"fuse" was already in the etc/modules file - i deleted "fuse" from fstab - here is the line : /dev/hdd1     /media/hdd1    ntfs-fuse       auto,gid=1001,umask=0007       0       006:08
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stdin!aptfix | hegemon_06:08
ubotuhegemon_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:08
WillLuongowienczny_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16142/06:09
hegemon_ubotu: thanks it worked06:10
wienczny_WillLuongo: Thats all?06:10
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WillLuongowienczny_: That's all the stuff at the end.06:11
WillLuongowienczny_: Do you want the whole thing?06:11
reydelsillonstdin: "fuse" was already in the etc/modules file - i deleted "fuse" from fstab - here is the line : /dev/hdd1     /media/hdd1    ntfs-fuse       auto,gid=1001,umask=0007       0       0    ---- look here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16143/06:11
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wienczny_WillLuongo: yeah. Those lines are just warnings that should not kill your XServer06:12
stdinreydelsillon: try "sudo umount /dev/hdd1", then do "sudo mount -a"06:12
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WillLuongowienczny_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16144/06:13
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WillLuongoWhoop06:13
reydelsillonroot@tulkas-desktop:~# sudo mount -a06:13
reydelsillonmount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'06:13
WillLuongoI think I see it06:13
RealisticDragonwoo, i have flash working on PPC with kubuntu :)06:13
wienczny_WillLuongo: Ah. could you post your xorg.conf plz?06:13
eagles0513875WillLuongo: the nvidia driver broke my x06:13
eagles0513875im back in default config06:13
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WillLuongoeagles0513875: That happened to me too. Can you still log in with KDM?06:14
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TonyTone17can anyone help me, i am tryin to boot kubuntu 6.10 and it always freezes saying /dev/hdc errors06:14
eagles0513875nope cant get a login screen nothing06:14
reydelsillonstdin: root@tulkas-desktop:~# sudo mount -a06:14
reydelsillonmount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'06:14
wienczny_WillLuongo. I think when you deleted the wacom section you did not remove all references.06:15
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WillLuongowienczny_: I think so too. I am working on it now.06:15
stdinreydelsillon: hmm06:15
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stdinreydelsillon: did you install ntfsprogs ?06:16
reydelsillonnot that i know of.06:17
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stdinreydelsillon: the 1st instruction on the page "sudo apt-get install libfuse2 ntfsprogs fuse-utils"06:17
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reydelsillonomg. ofcourse. i didnt get that error so i did not do it a couple of mins ago.06:18
reydelsillonlets see06:18
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JuJuBeehow do I reload iptables after I make changes/additions ?06:19
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TonyTone17can anyone help me, i am tryin to boot kubuntu 6.10 and it always freezes saying /dev/hdc errors06:19
WillLuongowienczny_: it is not letting me su nano xorg.conf any ideas?06:20
reydelsillonstdin. i can access the disk now.06:20
stdin:)06:20
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reydelsillonwhat is starnge theres no files or folders inside.06:21
wienczny_WillLuongo: try sudo instead of su ;-)06:21
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WillLuongowienczny_: OH! LOL06:22
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reydelsillonstdin: i booted kubuntu and plugged the hardisk and the got into irc and start asking. its no way the data is not there.06:22
WillLuongowienczny_: I knew that too...06:22
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WillLuongowienczny_: I am back in action now. thank you so much for your time.06:22
reydelsillonim gonna do a quick check from windows ..... /me prays to all gods.06:23
stdinreydelsillon: I don't know about that, I don't have a ntfs partition to test06:23
wienczny_WillLuongo. np06:23
acidBURNis there a way to setup konqueror browser to use firefox extentsion06:23
wienczny_acidBURN: You could start rewriting konqueror...06:24
jbruckmanso, i tried reconfiguring the xserver, and I'm still where I was. I am using feisty fawn, and since I installed the restricted nvidia drivers, my display hasn't been able to go above 640x80006:24
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acidBURNsure I could.... let me see where my basic disk...06:25
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WillLuongoeagles0513875: So you get to a black screen to login?06:25
WillLuongoeagles0513875: when you try startx what happens?06:25
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dwidmannjbruckman: the nvidia driver seems to be givnig all sorts of trouble in feisty atm. I personally am going to roll back to kernel 2.6.20-13 (with related packages too)06:26
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jbruckmandwidmann: sigh... okay. are they working on it, do you know?06:26
wienczny_acidBURN: konqueror is completly different to firefox. firefox ist build on XUL and gecko. konqueror uses qt4. You don't have a chance to get a firefox extension to run on konqueror06:26
underdog5004I just downloaded a .run file. how can I use it? It's a game installer, btw.06:26
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eagles0513875no screen whatso ever just a curso blinking and that is it06:27
dwidmannjbruckman: not sure06:27
TonyTone17can anyone help me? i am having errors while tryin to boot the kubuntu 6.10 - it freezes giving i/o errors on dev/hdc06:27
acidBURNthat the kicker... konqueror is great... however... it lacks in the browser dept.06:27
jbruckmanwienczny_: you do if you reverse engineer it and recode it. :-p06:27
acidBURNfor the web06:27
eagles0513875brb06:27
intelikeyunderdog5004 sh file.run06:27
WillLuongoeagles0513875: ok06:27
underdog5004thanks, intelikey06:27
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TonyTone17.run file is a superzip archive06:27
underdog5004it's working!!06:27
dwidmannI just commented on a potentially related bug report. It might be it, and if it is there might be a fix (whether it will make feisty or not I don't know)06:27
acidBURNwienczny: firefox has it over konqueror for the web.06:27
stanleyhi guys...how can i get the latest version of firefox using apt get??06:27
stanleyi kno there is a wiki that shows u how to do so06:28
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jbruckmani'll talk to my buddy. he's on the dev team.06:28
acidBURNwienczny: however, konqueror is a great desktop browser...06:28
underdog5004http://icculus.org/~ravage/ <-- Linux games and game add-ons06:29
wienczny_acidBURN: both browser are great. just take that one that fits best06:29
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acidBURNI was trying to stay with one....06:30
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jbruckmanlol06:30
acidBURNbut it would appear.....its not the case06:30
eagles0513875WillLuongo: got it to work with the nvidia driver from nvidia i just didnt start the x server06:30
acidBURNI feel konqueror could be made better.... ( ie my explorer)06:30
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WillLuongoeagles0513875: So it is working correctly now?06:31
wienczny_acidBURN: It would be great if firefox and konqueror could share configuration and bookmarks. Or something like a konqueror tab in firefox would be cool06:31
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jbruckmani'm going to try editing the xorg.conf file to see if i can fix my resolution problem06:31
Krafahola06:31
Krafaalgun espaol?06:31
intelikeyacidBURN ?    konq would be better if more like explorer ?    or konq is too much like explorer ?06:31
eagles0513875yes it is06:31
acidBURNwienczny: and social bookmarking...06:32
acidBURNwienczny: want konq, better than MS explorer.... much better06:32
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acidBURNfind out that I could open a term in konq, while surfing..06:33
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stanleyhi um...i'm tryna get the most recent version of firefox06:35
stanleycan someone point me in the right direction06:35
intelikeyimo.  most people that compare konq and ff and dis on konq have not actually used konq very much and have not explored it's functionality and potential.06:35
dwidmannI'll be right back ... going to see if I've got all the 2.6.20-13 stuff I need to stick with it06:35
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intelikey!ff | stanley06:36
ubotustanley: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins06:36
plbgnrhello, does anybody use partition image ? it wants to create /dev/dm inode after start, but it looks like  nothing is happening when I choose 'Yes' as answer to " Do you want this inode to be created for you now ?"06:36
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plbgnr...I use dapper...06:37
stanleyaright06:37
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stanleythanx ubotu06:37
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intelikey!thanks | stanley06:37
charlesHKGhow can I setup grub to allow me to choose between booting to kubuntu on my towers HDD and my USB HDD???06:37
ubotustanley: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)06:37
stanleyhaha06:38
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intelikeycharlesHKG edit /boot/grub/menu.lst06:38
hugetahi where java dev use in kubuntu cause to many choise in adept anyone can help me06:38
intelikey!grub | charlesHKG06:38
ubotucharlesHKG: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:38
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hugetahi anybody home06:39
hugetai need some help06:39
charlesHKGok....thanks06:39
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WillLuongohugeta: What is up?06:40
hugetahi bro  what the name java dev if i want to install java06:40
intelikeyand that assumes that your box can boot the usb device from bios.06:40
eagles0513875what pkg do i have to download to enable mp3 support in amarok06:40
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hugetacause to many choice in adept06:40
WillLuongohugeta: are you trying to install a java plugin for your browser?06:41
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hugetanot i want instal java development enviroment for programing06:41
hugetasooryy i'm tottaly new in ubuntu06:42
WillLuongoeagles0513875: It should prompt you to automically install them when you try to play an mp306:42
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hugetahe he he he he he h06:42
eagles0513875but it freezes06:43
WillLuongoeagles0513875: It was waiting for me to put in the superuser password, I think. I got it through that.06:43
Darthwedahi06:43
intelikey!java06:43
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:43
WillLuongohugeta: You might like eclipse06:43
eagles0513875im using feisty i dont know whether its buggy in feisty06:43
Darthwedahow i change the server?06:44
WillLuongoeagles0513875: I don't know in Feisty either, I still use Edgy, sorry.06:44
hugetaeclipse what.... i never heard before cause im to loong in mars06:44
intelikeyDarthweda which server ?06:45
Darthwedagamesurge06:45
WillLuongohugeta: if you use adept you can filter out just eclipse stuff06:45
WillLuongohugeta: it is a java IDE06:45
intelikeyDarthweda mmm sorry dik06:45
intelikeyidk06:45
Darthweda^06:46
hugetai ussualy use vb 6.0 for desktop programing and java too06:46
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Darthwedak06:47
Darthwedacu06:47
WillLuongohugeta: I guess I don't know what you are asking...06:47
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Shalaptop1someone know what i can use for my server for everyoen can upload picture, sorta like photobucket or imagehack, but wihtout need to log on or something ? just a simple thingy for uplaod shit ?06:48
Shalaptop1i use kubuntu with apache <.<06:48
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Shalaptop1server lamp D:06:48
intelikeyWillLuongo i think he's asking what packages he'll need to do java development in linux ...    not sure either.06:48
intelikeyShalaptop1 ftpd ?06:50
tdnOpening new SSH connections is very slow on my machines. Do you have any idea what can cause this? It seems like it waits for something. DNS maybe? strace available here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=49606:50
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Shalaptop1i don't know how to use ftpd <.<06:50
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dwidmannI guess that was a no-go :( Looks like I'm stuck with VESA for a while06:50
Shalaptop1but i mean by website, not ftp anyway D:06:51
hugetai ussualy use vb 6.0 for develop some desktop application like trading app,...and etc06:51
intelikeyShalaptop1 ah   yeah  some part/s of  LAMP06:51
intelikey!lamp | Shalaptop106:51
ubotuShalaptop1: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:51
intelikeybut i don't know anything about networking/webservers06:52
WillLuongohugeta: Eclipse is similar to VB 6 but for Java in Linux.06:52
Shalaptop1ubotu: i installed a server lamp who work good, but now i want use it for ppl can upload picture on it by the web browser06:52
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Shalaptop1!linux | intelikey06:54
ubotuintelikey: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux06:54
Shalaptop1lmao06:54
Shalaptop1</jokes>06:54
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hugetahe he he he that what i need bro.....06:54
intelikeyShalaptop1 np.   #apache   or  ##linux   might be a good place to ask....06:54
hugetamaybe  u can help me what the name pacnkage enclipse in adept06:55
fyrmedicSo I have seen a lot of people talking about how good beryl is. So I installed it, but I can't seem to get it to work. Any suggestions?06:55
WillLuongohugeta: you can either use adept to get it or you can copy and paste this in a console apt-get install eclipse06:56
fyrmedic!beryl06:56
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:56
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intelikeyeclipse - Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE06:56
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jhutchinsfyrmedic: That's about how it goes.  Works for some people who have the right cards and settings, doesn't for many.06:57
fyrmedicjhutchins: ok, I'll try working through it. I am in a couple of forums reading up. Thanks. You think it is worth the time?06:58
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jhutchinsfyrmedic: How big is your monitor?06:58
hugetaok got it thank a lot bro06:58
fyrmedicjhutchins: 15" notebook06:59
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WillLuongohugeta: No problem06:59
jhutchinsfyrmedic: No.  You won't be happy with it, you need at least a 19".  It may be amusing to see the screen effects, but I doubt if you'll want to work in it.  Also, laptop hardare is notoriously difficult to deal with to begin with.07:00
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jhutchinsfyrmedic: These new "3D" desktops are most useful if you often have multiple windows on the screen.  If you usually have your top window maximized, they won't do much for you.07:00
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fyrmedicjhutchins; ok I think I am out on it based on that.07:01
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Sannehi07:02
Kamuianyone have any suggestions for using kubuntu on my tablet pc?07:02
fyrmedicjhutchins; thanks for your time.07:03
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eagles0513875is ntfs-3g compatible with a 64 bit os reason i ask is that it locks up my system when im on my windows partition and i cant log in07:05
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zouzou85hi guys, how do i delete a repo source using a terminal?07:08
vinces1979zouzou85: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list07:08
zouzou85thanx07:09
vinces1979np07:09
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lucahi everyone07:12
WillLuongohi luca07:12
lucadoes anybody here own a Dell Inspiron6400 with nvidia card?07:13
lucahi WillLuongo07:13
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wolferineluca, why, having issues with it?07:13
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laervian10wolferine nope I wanna buy one and I'd like to know if there are any problems with the hardware :D07:14
wolferineah, google would probably be a MUCH better place for that07:14
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judgenhmm that was unpleaseant07:16
laervian10wolferine maybe but it also takes quite longer :D07:16
judgeni tried gnome again =P07:16
hak5fanHi. I reinstalled recently and have to recopile my kernel. I've done it before, but now I can't get to the configuration screen, make menuconfig gives me errors: I followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560  herer are the error messages http://p.rc6.org/index.php?id=7cf17b882d07:16
hak5fanwhat's wrong07:17
hugetawho knows gambas07:17
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acmedfg07:18
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dany_21hak5fan: "curses.h: No such file or directory" install some packages starting with "libcurses...-dev"07:18
dany_21hak5fan: or "ncurses".. or somwthing like that07:18
balajican anone help me in configuring a huawei modem in kubuntu?07:18
balajiEC325?07:19
dany_21hak5fan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=curses.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i38607:19
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hak5fandany_21: I'll give it a try07:19
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balajican anyone pls help?07:22
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hak5fandany_21: It worked07:22
hak5fandany_21: Thank you07:23
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dany_21hak5fan: np07:23
hugetaada anak indonesia enggak ya07:24
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qsuguys i have a 256 mb memeroy usb stick and i want to put kubuntu on it, is that possible and where do i find good docs07:25
balajiwith 256 i dont think u can install kubuntu07:26
judgenbalaji: he could make a minimal ubuntu livecd with only kde-core on. Will not have much functionality though unless you have internet07:27
hugetahow many mb for install kubuntu in memery stick07:27
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qsui have another usb stick with 128 mb maybe i could combine them07:27
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judgenhugeta: for base+xserver+kde-core 242 base+xserver+kde-base~420 and base+xserver+kde even bigger07:28
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judgenqsu: you can just put the needed base install in the small one and the debs for the apps you need on the other usb stick07:29
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kubuntu22Bet this place is going to be busy come this thursday :)07:29
qsuoke, and where can i find good docs to do this07:29
judgenkubuntu22: probably07:29
judgenqsu: wiki.ubuntu.com07:29
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psb154is it worth downloading the beta now and using the apt update facility to get the latest changes after release?07:36
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apokryphospsb154: well the release candidate is out now, even07:38
Briareos_how can i check when a specific username was used/online the last time?07:38
apokryphosBriareos_: /msg nickserv info username07:38
Briareos_thanks07:39
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unix_infideldo we have an rc yet?07:42
unix_infidelits 2 days till final release.07:42
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unix_infideland i believe yesterday was when some select people already got some isos.07:42
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jermainhi everyone07:49
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jermainI need help: my scanner isnt recognized by Kooka even though i installed SANE07:49
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jermaindoes anyone know what to do?07:49
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sparrwwhy might audio being played from a CD be going through the Master Mono channel on my sound card (as reported by alsamixer and kmix)?07:49
siliciumhi :) this is just a test :>07:50
BishiNightBirdok?07:50
Gtwyanyone with a laptop with 1280x800 check this out: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/53434721/ might work with your theme, might not07:50
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psb154jermain, is your scanner a usb scanner?07:52
Exalanyone know how I can install kubuntu with no graphics?07:52
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Exalwhich command07:52
jermainpsb154 yes it is07:52
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balaji<judgen>ok i didnt know that  iam sorry probably this should suffice07:52
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jermainkooka keeps telling me my system doesnt provide a SANE installation07:52
psb154jermain, you need to copy a file from the installation CD (windows) and edit a file.07:52
jermainoh07:53
jermainsane is an emulation program?07:53
psb154I can prolly talk  you through it but do you have the CD?07:53
jermaingimme some time to look for it07:53
jermain:)07:53
psb154k07:53
jermaingot it07:54
psb154good07:54
jermainits in the cd rom now :)07:55
psb154lets install xsane first ok, sudo apt-get install xsane07:55
jermaink07:55
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jermainits installing now07:56
jermaindone07:56
psb154excellent :-)07:56
jermain:) i feel so pro07:56
psb154look on the cd and find a .bin file.07:56
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psb154the .bin file will look something like snape25.bin for example07:57
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jermaineep,.. i see no content on the cd07:57
psb154sudo mount /media/cdrom07:57
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jermaincommand not found -.-07:58
psb154or mount /media/cd    and then press the tab key07:58
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psb154mount07:58
jermainbut the gui opened /media/cdrom007:58
psb154good oh07:58
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psb154mount /media/cdrom0     wot does that do?07:59
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jermaini tried mounting the cdrom0 but i got07:59
jermainjermain@jermain:/media$ mount /media/cdrom007:59
jermainmount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only07:59
jermainmount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy07:59
jermainmount: according to mtab, /dev/hdd is already mounted on /media/cdrom007:59
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psb154fine no problem07:59
jermaincool07:59
psb154now: cd /media/cdrom008:00
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jermaindone08:00
jermain:)08:00
jermainoooh08:00
psb154now: find / -name *.bin08:00
jermainif i do ls08:00
jermaini can see the content!08:00
jermainoh okay08:00
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jermain:)08:01
gioacchinohello' all08:01
gioacchinoI have a problem with firefox08:01
jermaini think i should have piped it to less..08:01
jermainhi gio08:01
gioacchinoI can't use pdf stamp08:01
PhinnFortgioacchino: who hasn't?08:02
psb154jermain... sorry mate that should have been: find /media/cdrom0 -name *.bin08:02
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psb154jermain ctrl + c08:02
gioacchinowhen I try to stamp a file with firefox I have only 3 possibility08:02
jermain:)08:02
gioacchinoPhinnFort: when I try to stamp a file with firefox I have only 3 possibility08:02
jermainah thats better08:02
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jermain:p08:02
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jermaingot 7 results08:03
psb154tell me...08:03
jermainI'll paste them, 1 sec08:03
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gioacchinobut If I go on my Kcontrol I have 6 printer08:03
psb154you might get flamed if you paste here08:03
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gioacchinoPhinnFort:  but If I go on my Kcontrol I have 6 printer08:03
jermain7 lines08:03
jermainits a forgivable sin right?08:04
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jermain:o08:04
psb154jermain what is your scanner called, brand and model08:04
jermainepson perfection 394008:04
psb154na they get right miffed :-)08:04
jermain^^08:04
psb154ok does one of the file names look like the model number?08:04
gioacchinoPhinnFort:  pn firefox I have laserjet (my hardware printer) , default( this is equal to laserjet), print on file (this prin in a PS file)08:05
jermainope, but one is called scanassistant, might that be it?08:05
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PhinnFortgioacchino: sorry, I don't use Firefox08:05
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PhinnFortgioacchino: tried Konqueror or Opera?08:05
gioacchino:|08:05
PhinnFort;)08:05
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psb154jermain, can you copy and paste all the names on one line.08:05
gioacchinoKonqueror work with all printers...08:06
jermain@PhinnFort: Blasphemy!08:06
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jermaink08:06
PhinnFortjermain: ?08:06
PhinnFortOPERA OPERA OPERA08:06
gioacchinoI know opera is very good08:06
gioacchinobut I prefer  Firefox08:06
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jermaineventmanager filemanager, imageclippallette, scanassistant and EPCOPY08:06
SekI can't find any info with google on getting xvkbd or gok to work with gdm, anyone have any ideas on getting gdm to run an app after initializing the prompt?08:06
PhinnFortOpera is the best, smallest, fastest, most innovative browser08:06
jermainthese are all folders08:06
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jermainand each contains a bin called08:06
jermainlayout.bin08:07
gioacchinoanybody can help me ?08:07
psb154jermain, are they file names that end with .bin, like epcopy.bin ?08:07
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PhinnFortgioacchino: have you tried in #firefox?08:07
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gioacchinothanks08:07
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jermainno, all the bin files are called layout.bin08:08
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psb154jermain, there should be a unique file on that there CD that ends with .bin. let me google a second08:09
jermaink08:09
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gioacchinoI have the same problem with Thunderbird...08:11
psb154jermain the file name is esfw52.bin08:11
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jermain? weird, its not in my found results,..08:12
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psb154jermain, well we are getting there..08:12
Sekany ideas on embedding xvkbd or any other onscreen keyboard on my gdm screen?08:12
reydelsillonhey guys. what is the name of the prgram that is like windows emule for kubuntu? basicaly the most developed and stable p2p+kademilla softaware?08:12
jermaintrue true :)08:12
jermainperhaps i can dl the bin file somewhere08:13
bobstroJuJuBee: any luck with your proxy?08:13
salhoobj'ai install le kubuntu mnt08:13
psb154jermain, just looking but that is the idea.08:13
salhoobje veut savoir comment installer les autre logiciels08:13
psb154jermain, I feel sure it is on your CD but if you can't see it then download is the other option.08:13
reydelsillonhey guys. what is the name of the prgram that is like windows emule for kubuntu? basicaly the most developed and stable p2p+kademilla softaware?08:14
jermainyeah, I think ill just go to the epson site and dl the driver, maybe my cd is just old -.-08:14
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psb154jermain, good idea.08:15
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point14emule ..maybe aMule08:16
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korrxreydelsillon : amule08:17
jermainpsb154: i got bad news and good news08:17
psb154good news firest08:18
jermainthe bad news is that i keep getting .exe files08:18
jermaineep too late08:18
jermain:)08:18
psb154lol08:18
jermainthe good news is that i found and downloaded a linux setup08:18
psb154most excellent08:19
jermainits called epson31411eu.zip08:19
jermain:)08:19
jermainJoy!08:19
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psb154and distructions on how to install it?08:19
jermainwtf,..08:19
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jermaini unpacked it and got an html file08:19
psb154jermain, just the one :-)08:20
jermaincalled linux driver.html08:20
jermainits a link to another website that is supposed to have a linux driver08:20
jermainbunch of sadists ><08:20
psb154lol08:21
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psb154jermain, mission impossible music is required I think.08:21
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jermainlol08:22
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psb154does the html file self distruct :-)08:22
jermaini still have 115 seconds left08:22
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jermainno NO NO NO NO NO08:23
jermaini come to this site that tells me they have the driver08:23
jermainall i need to do is select the distro08:23
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jermainand i pick debian08:23
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jermainthey are giving me RPM files to dl08:24
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psb154pick debian08:24
jermaini did :(08:24
jermainmaybe i did something wrong08:24
jermainyou try: http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/dl_scan.html08:24
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jermainits perfection 3490 btw08:25
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ronanhey there. having a weird problem with kubuntu 6.06.  just installed on a fresh m,achine, it loads fine but whenever i try and start any program it just crashes. any ideas?08:26
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jermainTom Cruise eat your heart out. I got the mission of missions on my hands08:27
jermain>:/08:27
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psb154jermain, that does not look like the file we need.08:28
jermainnope :(08:28
jermainwhat evil minds try to give rpm's to debian users?08:28
sparrwive got about a half dozen rpms installed on my kubuntu box08:29
VR_just use alien to convert rpm to deb08:29
psb154lol, can you try this again:  sudo find / -name esfw52.bin08:29
sparrwvi alien of course08:29
livingdaylighti heard there were some heavy-duty bugs in the last few days08:29
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psb154jermain, with the cd still mounted08:30
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jermainyes?08:30
wolferineshould you remove Samba when switching to a new NFS ?08:30
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ronanhey there. having a weird problem with kubuntu 6.06.  just installed on a fresh m,achine, it loads fine but whenever i try and start any program it just crashes. any ideas?08:30
livingdaylightshould i wait another 2 days or is it safe to install feisty now?08:31
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wolferinelivingdaylight, why wait?08:31
wolferine:)08:31
jermaincrap i had a very unpleasant thought,..08:31
livingdaylightwolferine: is it safe enough in your opinion?08:31
wolferinelivingdaylight, never used it08:31
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jermainwhat if there were to cd's and i read the one with all the spam on it..08:31
livingdaylightwolferine: huh?08:32
jermaincd /08:32
psb154dho!08:32
mirekhello :)08:32
livingdaylightwolferine:  what do you mean then 'why wait'?08:32
wolferinewhat do you mean 'is it safe' ?08:32
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livingdaylightwell, it is not the full or final release yet for two days08:33
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wolferinethen, maybe you would want to wait for that?08:33
jermainnope it clearly says scanner software cd rom08:33
wolferineyour answer is right in your question :)08:33
jermainwith the name of the model stamped above it,.. ill look for a 2nd cd though08:34
jermainjust in case08:34
livingdaylightwolferine: i'm impatient08:34
livingdaylightwolferine: what are you using?08:34
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wolferine( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 6.10 - edgy Kernel: 2.6.17-11-386, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 7.1.1 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.8.008:34
livingdaylightwolferine: haha, so you are waiting also08:35
wolferineim in no rush08:35
wolferinestill lots to learn08:35
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jermainpsb154: no other cd, and i have to go to bed. Its getting late08:37
jermainI'll try again tomorrow08:37
jermainty for your help though!08:37
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braisnetaiuto...c' un italiano???08:37
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jermainbye everyone08:37
psb154jermain, np if you do a google on that bin file esf08:37
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psb154you will see a bunch08:37
jermaini'll keep at that08:38
jermain:)08:38
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psb154k bye08:38
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KervanI want to login to kde with my root account Can i configure it.?08:40
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gemidjyahh that Konqueror Dialog thing in Feisty...just sux08:41
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wolferinei have a close ISP that offers fast transfers, how can I find out if they are able to be added into my repos?08:42
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mc__gemidjy:  what dialog?08:42
angasule_gemidjy: which dialog?08:42
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angasule_Kervan: why do you want to do that? it's not a good idea, you can launch applications as root (from a normal user session) by using "kdesu application", for example "kdesu konqueror" will launch konqueror as root08:43
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stanleyhi guys08:43
stanleyi have firefox 1.5 installed n i want to upgrade to 2.0.0.308:43
Kervanangasule_: I know kdesu but I dont want to use kdesu I wan to login with root access08:43
stanleyhow can i do this??08:44
angasule_!sudo08:44
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:44
angasule_Kervan: I think that page gives more details about how to get back root08:44
angasule_!root08:44
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RealisticDragonKervan: try sudo su -08:45
RealisticDragonthat will give you a root shell08:46
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RealisticDragonKervan: ahh, sorry, see you want to log into kde as root :) i think you will need to add root to the user group that allows logins :o08:47
KervanRealisticDragon: I know to use sudo, kdesu or other but those applications dont do my wish. I want to login with root access to kde08:47
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psb154kervan you could give your current user root like permissions.08:48
angasule_Kervan: you have to do sudo passwd or something like that08:48
wolferinei have a close ISP that offers fast transfers, how can I find out if they are able to be added into my repos?08:48
angasule_Kervan: but whatever you're doing, it's wrong08:48
psb154lol08:48
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RealisticDragoncan do what he likes with his own machine :)08:49
KervanRealisticDragon: how can i set user group that allows logins08:49
RealisticDragongood luck finding it anyway Kervan, sorry i cant help more :o08:49
angasule_yeah, he can hump it for all I care :P08:49
RealisticDragoni just checked /etc/group but theres nothing obvious in there Kervan08:49
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KervanRealisticDragon: I could not find it this is my real problem... if I can not set it at kubuntu i wont search any more08:50
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RealisticDragonnot in /etc/paasswd either so the restriction is somewhere else :o08:50
RealisticDragonim fairly sure its not a KDE restriction, its lower level... since you cant log in to the shell (ctrl-alt-F1 shell) with root either08:51
angasule_Kervan: you have to set a root password first08:51
angasule_Kervan: without a root password, you can't log in at all08:51
Kervanangasule_: I have a user that userid 0 groupid 008:51
angasule_Kervan: I think the command you want is "sudo passwd"08:51
PhinnFortRealisticDragon:08:51
PhinnFortI can08:51
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RealisticDragonwhat did you do PhinnFort? sudo passwd root, then it all worked?08:52
PhinnFortyup08:52
RealisticDragonhandy :)08:52
Kervanangasule_: when I work to login to kde with root acces i see this " you can not login with root access to kde"08:52
angasule_Kervan: well, don't know, google for the solution08:53
angasule_I'm not going to look it up just so you can hose your system :P08:53
Kervanno i can not find any thing at googe08:53
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livingtmHi. Im trying out the KDE desktop to compare it to Gnome on ubuntu. Are there equivalents to gnubiff, the weather applet, and the laptop batter monuitor applet for KDE?09:03
livingtmmake that battery monitor09:04
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cloakableYes :)09:04
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livingtmcloakable, Nothing of the sort seems to show up i the applet chooser. what do i need to install?09:05
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cloakablelivingtm: I presume the weather applet is on gdesklets?09:06
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livingtmcloakable, Nope... its an applet that sites on the top gnome panel in ubuntu09:06
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cloakableHmm. Not sure then. I use LiquidWeather+++ in Superkaramba.09:07
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cloakableAnd Aero_AIO for everything else (also in superkaramba)09:07
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salhoobplease i have a problem in instaling the amsn ,09:08
salhoobhelp me09:09
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ubuntuhello09:21
wolferineanyone use VMware, I am trying to do a Fedora install, but not seeing any drives to install09:23
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WillLuongois there a way to manually remove a package from adept that was added by a deb package?09:27
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czer323Question about Tab behaviors in Kde apps.  I'm trying to switch tabs in Kopete and konqurer using Ctrl-Tab/Ctrl-Shift-Tab for forward/backward but it's totally not working.  I checked the System Settings and customized them, but no change.09:31
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czer323it seems to respond to Ctrl-PgUp/PgDn and Ctrl-./, but I definitely changed it from those to Ctrl-Tab09:32
toxicwazeil y a des canal en francais09:32
toxicwazefrench canal please help me09:33
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Tahir_Hmost people claim that with ff we will have wifi support out of the box but will there be support for broadcom cards?  Because they require ndiswrapper09:44
jhutchinsTahir_H: Feisty's in #ubuntu+109:45
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Tahir_Hthanks jhutchins09:45
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Tahir_Hwhy is it not named that? nevermind...09:46
cloakableTahir_H: My broadcom card runs just fine with the linux driver :/09:46
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cloakableJust needs the firmware installed.09:46
Tahir_Hcloakable: so does mine but I need wpa support which does not come out of the box09:47
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cloakableAhh09:47
MinceRwhat does apt-indexer do?09:47
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Tahir_Hcloakable: will I be able to load the driver using ndiswrapper and then use the gui tools to configure this later on?09:48
juan__hello09:48
Tahir_Hcloakable: I did everything by editing config files which I dont like to do09:48
cloakableTahir_H: I've no idea. I haven't used ndiswrapper in AGES.09:48
juan__when would kubuntu version 7 be available?09:49
cloakableThis month, apparently09:49
juan__thanks09:49
MinceRoh, i misread the name, apparently -_-09:50
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ubuntu_hola09:51
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ubuntu_alguien sabe de algun editor postescript para hylafac09:52
ubuntu_alguien sabe de algun editor postescript para hylafax09:52
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PF-Away!es | ubuntu_09:53
ubotuubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:53
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cloakableHmm. Ubuntu is 2 days away XD09:53
PF-Away!feisty09:53
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)09:53
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ian_hi everyone .. just to say thanks to the kubuntu developers / etc.. it is a great distro09:56
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ian_and with knetworkmanager . . can finally use the wpa wireless :)09:56
ubuntu_ubotu you any have about this it?09:56
Shalaptop1someone know what is bzr ? because i downloaded something with it, and i have no idea what i have to do after lol09:57
ubuntu_ubotu you know any about faxcover.pc09:57
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Shalaptop1!bzr09:57
ubotubzr is Bazaar-NG, a decentralized revision control system designed to be easy for developers and end users alike. Decentralized revision control systems give people the ability to work over the internet using the bazaar development model.09:57
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Shalaptop1oO09:57
Shalaptop1that don't help lmao09:57
atidemhello folks!09:58
Shalaptop1bzr branch http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/code/ i have do that, but what after oO09:58
jhutchinsJust about 20 minutes even to install the faun on this laptop.09:59
Shalaptop1!wtf about that D:09:59
ubuntu_some person know any about hylafax?10:00
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Shalaptop1!hylafax | ubuntu_10:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hylafax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:01
ubuntu_I would some editor to posscript for modified faxcover.ps file10:01
cellic' qualche italiano che mi pu aiutare10:01
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cellihow i can configure the screen in the right mode?10:03
Shalaptop1Celli: /j #ubuntu-it10:03
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jhutchinsWow, 254 updates.10:05
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Daisuke_Idojhutchins: i've decided to wait till the final release10:06
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jhutchinsI had to do an install and didn't see any point in re-installing in a few days.  The mirrors will be swamped.10:06
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phoenix3051Does anyone know if the "kmail crashing on filtering" bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdepim/+bug/90701) will be fixed in time for the release of FF10:08
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jhutchinsphoenix3051: Unlikely.10:09
jhutchinsphoenix3051: The packages are pretty much frozen at this point, and I think that one is up-stream.10:09
boh3m3Hey... can anyone help me with an installation problem10:10
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phoenix3051thanks10:10
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phoenix3051for the info.10:10
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boh3m3My installation is locked up at 50% while scanning the disks... Does anyone know what may be occurring?10:11
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jhutchinsphoenix3051: Looking at it, it might make it after all, if they actually get it fixed in KDE SVN.10:11
jhutchinsphoenix3051: Release is like two days away though, it'll probably have to be an update.10:11
jhutchinsboh3m3: Scanning the disks?10:12
boh3m3Well I'm running a live disk and I would like to install kubuntu, but it's frozen10:12
boh3m3disks as in hard drives10:12
boh3m3I believe10:12
phoenix3051jhutchins: hopefully it will because its appears to be a really great release otherwise10:12
jhutchinsI've not had problems with the filters, but I run a different branch.10:13
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jhutchinsboh3m3: disks I understand, why do you say it's "scanning" them?10:13
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ksnipaz2anyone know of any apps that can split video (wmv) files?10:14
phoenix3051can I ask which version you using?10:14
boh3m3jhutchins: because the installer says that it is scanning them. I believe it is trying to populate a list with what hard drives I have on my motherboard to choose which one to partition/install on10:14
ksnipaz2I've tried kdenlive, but it keeps crashing10:14
boh3m36.1010:14
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wolferine!proxy | wolferine10:15
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Shalaptop1fail10:15
Shalaptop1!proxy10:15
ubotuThe #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.10:15
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jhutchinsboh3m3: Ah, now I know what you mean, that 50% threw me off.10:15
jhutchinsboh3m3: Have you tried restarting?10:15
jhutchinsboh3m3: Does the live CD see all your drives and partitions?10:16
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boh3m3Jhutchins: yes I have, but every time I run the installer it does the exact same thing10:16
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wolferinei really dont understand what a proxy really is10:16
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boh3m3But when I go to system settings>advanced>disks and filesystems everything shows up10:17
jhutchinswolferine: A relay.10:17
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wolferineis it a client/server setup?10:17
jhutchinsboh3m3: You could try manually setting up the partitions.  The installer's going to insist on formatting / though.10:17
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boh3m3This might sound a bit nooby but how would I go about manually setting up partitions?10:18
jhutchinswolferine: You point your net app at the proxy instead of the actual internet; the proxy in this case makes it appear that your own IP is hidden.10:18
jhutchinsboh3m3: cfdisk or fdisk, or qparted.10:18
wolferinejhutchins, but that is just one type of proxy, there are many others, right?10:19
jhutchinswolferine: Yes.10:19
letynsofti have problem... i have normal PC and when i installed game freecraft and  restarted, my Xorg writes something like (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom i've found that /dev/wacom is touchpad so don't know why it needs it...10:19
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jhutchinswolferine: They all share the trait that you point your connection at the proxy machine instead of the actual remote host.10:19
jhutchinswolferine: Or relay your connection through it, for various reasons.10:20
wolferineif I wanted my host hidden on IRC, thats a type of proxy, but my ISP will offer a proxy address too, so those are two types10:20
Menajhutchins, i have some subtitles in arabic10:20
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Menajhutchins, why when i open i open them in text10:20
boh3m3jhutchins: I'm assuming for kubuntu I should format it to fat32, correct?10:20
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Menajhutchins, i found that the encode* or the words dont appear right10:21
jhutchinsboh3m3: ext3, but like I said, the installer will want to format it for you.10:21
Menajhutchins, is there any way to fix10:21
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boh3m3jhutchins: ext3? But what does it matter if the installer will want to format it for me if the installer locks up10:22
sparrwwhy might audio being played from a CD be going through the Master Mono channel on my sound card (as reported by alsamixer and kmix)?10:22
jhutchinsMena: I'm sorry but I'm not very familiar with the internationalization system.  I believe if you set the location and language correctly things should just work, but I don't knw the details.10:22
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Menaok10:22
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MenaThansk :)10:22
jhutchinsboh3m3: You might also want to try the alternative installer, but wait:10:22
MenaThanks*10:22
jhutchinsboh3m3: Did you checksum the CD and the iso?10:22
Daisuke_Idohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16159/10:23
Daisuke_Idoshould i be concerned about this?10:23
sparrwGtwy: imho it would be better with the center of the chip in focus, so you can see the resistors on the bottom AND some pins, with pins out of focus in front and behind10:23
Daisuke_Idoevery hour at the same time (well duh, it's apparently cron related), different PID10:23
jhutchins!sa | Mena10:24
ubotuMena: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa10:24
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boh3m3I ordered the CD from ondisk10:25
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boh3m3jhutchins: how do I checksum the disk?10:25
jhutchinsboh3m3: All the more reason to checksum it!10:25
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jhutchinsHRm.  Good question, given that it needs to be un-mounted, so you can't very well boot from it.10:26
boh3m3Should I boot into windows and check the CD from there?10:26
Menajhutchins, ok10:26
Menajhutchins, Thanks :)10:27
stanleyhi guys10:27
jhutchinsboh3m3: You could do that.  The correct checksums are on the same servers that you download the iso's from.10:27
stanleyfrostwire just kicks out when i open it10:27
stanleywhat could this be??10:27
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jhutchinsboh3m3: I'd go ahead and partition (but not format) the disk, then try again.  Just set the partition type for the main (83) and swap (82) partitions.10:28
boh3m3jhutchins: Man I know a thing or two about computers, but I'm a windows bloke and I've not a clue what you're talking about10:29
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AsasinHey again, quick question.10:30
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AsasinI'm trying to copy the Kubuntu ISO over to an SD memory chip so I can use it as a bootable device, is it possible?10:30
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AsasinI tried ImgBurn but it doesn't recognize the SD chip, just the CD ROM drive10:31
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joey__hello10:31
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BloodyTuxwhat's up?10:31
Daisuke_IdoAsasin: mount the iso with mount -o loop and copy over to the sd10:32
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AsasinI'm on Windows right now ...10:32
AsasinSo I don't know if mount -o loop would work -_-10:32
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Daisuke_Idothen...  use something like virtualcd or daemon tools10:32
ZnuffyHi. In Konqueror, where's the Plugin tab gone?!10:32
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ZnuffyKonqueror's settings ,taht is10:33
enrygoodnight!10:33
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Daisuke_IdoZnuffy: i dunno about you, but i still have mine10:33
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BloodyTuxanyone need help?10:34
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Znuffyuhm, when you apt-get konqueror on a ubuntu install (not kubuntu) the tab is not there10:34
Daisuke_Idonext to last in the left panel10:34
Horscht86yes, i do10:34
BloodyTux!ubuntu10:34
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome10:34
BloodyTux!ubuntu help10:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:34
Daisuke_Idookay, then that's a question for them, not kubuntu10:34
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ZnuffyIs there a special package that provides the plugin stuff for konqueror?10:34
BloodyTux#ubuntu10:34
Daisuke_Idobecause kubuntu includes it by default, including plugins10:34
Znuffyit's the same stuff -_-10:34
BloodyTuxask there10:34
boh3m3bloodytux: I do need help actually10:34
AsasinDaemon Tools will let me mount to an SD chip? :\10:34
AsasinLast time I checked that was virtual emulation10:35
Daisuke_Idooi10:35
Daisuke_Idono10:35
BloodyTuxboh3m3: how can i help?10:35
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Daisuke_Idoit will let you mount the cd10:35
Znuffyso you have no idea about what packages kubuntu-desktop depends on10:35
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Znuffyok, fair enough10:35
Daisuke_Idoso you can copy it over to the SD card10:35
Znuffybye10:35
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boh3m3bloodytux: I'm having installation problems10:35
Daisuke_Idosnippy10:35
boh3m3with kubuntu 6.1010:35
BloodyTuxboh3m3: how so10:35
AsasinOooh right >_>... And then that should be a "bootable" copy ?10:35
Daisuke_Idoand if he'd just SAID kubuntu-desktop, i would have smacked him >_<10:35
Daisuke_IdoAsasin: i would imagine so, as long as your bios will let you boot from such a device10:36
boh3m3bloodytux: I'm working off of a live CD I ordered off of on-disk.com and every time it gets to selecting the hard drive it's to be installed on it freezes up while scanning the devices10:36
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boh3m3at precisely 50%10:36
Horscht86I have a Wireless card with a RT2561/RT61 chipset.10:36
Daisuke_Idoit doesn't like one of your hard drives, sounds like :)10:36
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Horscht86I am running kbuntu 7.04 beta as a live CD10:37
BloodyTuxboh3m3: yea i agree with dai10:37
AsasinWell I'm hoping it does. Thanks Daisuke.10:37
BloodyTuxhow is thebeta going?10:37
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Daisuke_IdoAsasin: good luck, let us know if it worked :)10:37
boh3m3daisuke: how do I rectify the problem? I have 4 hard drives... do I disconnect all but the one I wish to install on?10:37
BloodyTuxwhasts asasin's problem?10:37
AsasinHaha I will :p10:37
Daisuke_IdoBloodyTux: booting off of an SD card10:37
BloodyTuxoh.10:38
Daisuke_Idoif the bios will allow something like that, cool, but i don't know for sure10:38
BloodyTuxprob. not10:38
BloodyTuxyou'd need some major modifications for that10:38
AsasinI just have to hope it does.10:38
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BloodyTuxgood luck10:38
AsasinWell... I'm crossing my fingers >_>10:38
Daisuke_IdoAsasin: i might have a link that will help10:38
AsasinThanks XD10:38
boh3m3Daisuke_Ido: Did you see my question?10:38
Daisuke_Idoboh3m3: just a second :)10:39
AsasinIf it's that XPE Booting thing I don't know if I can figure it out >_>10:39
boh3m3Take your time10:39
Horscht86when i click the network manager i can see a wireless network, but when I try to connect it it goes no firther than 28% (device configuration)10:39
Horscht86the network is not encrypted, locked etc.10:39
BloodyTuxhmmmmmm. probably just a porblem with the beta.10:39
BloodyTuxreport a bug10:39
BloodyTux!bugs10:39
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots10:39
BloodyTux*problem10:40
Daisuke_Idohttp://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar10:40
ash211Horscht86: sometimes trying `sudo dhclient eth1` (or other interface) has helped me10:40
BloodyTuxlol10:40
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Daisuke_IdoAsasin: check that, look for what files are needed10:40
BloodyTuxbrb i'm going to download 7.04 iso10:40
AsasinAwesome, thanks.10:40
Daisuke_Idoi think it's on page 2 or so10:40
BloodyTuxnvm10:40
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Daisuke_Idoboh3m3: k, back to you :)10:41
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Daisuke_Idoare all of your drives pata?10:41
Horscht86ash211: so i try ra0 instead?10:41
boh3m3I don't even know what that means10:41
BloodyTuxpata???10:41
Daisuke_Idoparallel ata10:41
Horscht86thats the name of my wireless card in Linux10:41
ash211Horscht86: yes10:41
BloodyTuxi thoguht there only was sata and ide10:41
BloodyTuxoh10:41
Daisuke_Ido(typical ide devices)10:41
ash211ide=pata10:41
ash211generally10:41
BloodyTux...10:42
boh3m3I have two on IDE and two on SATA10:42
Daisuke_Idohmm10:42
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BloodyTux:/10:43
Daisuke_Idoi assume you're installing to a sata drive10:43
boh3m3No I believe it's an IDE10:43
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jhutchinsStrangely the installer labeled my laptop's ide drive sda.10:43
BloodyTuxtry installing to a sata10:43
Daisuke_Idojhutchins: there is only sda now10:43
Daisuke_Idowell...  there is only sd* now10:44
jhutchinsAh.10:44
jhutchinsWell, rebooting feisty after update, if ndiswrapper doesn't work this time it won't be a kubuntu laptop after all.10:44
BloodyTuxif that doesn't work, try unplugging the other 3 drives, install, then plug them in after and config from kubuntu gui10:44
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jhutchinsWon't connect with the acx100 (could be a bad card).10:44
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ubuntu_ash211: this is what happens: http://www.pastebin.ca/44537310:45
ubuntu_but i still can't get any further than 28%10:45
ash211the internet should work now, then10:45
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BloodyTuxubuntu: what's going on?10:45
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wolferinehow do you find proxies (addresses) ?10:46
ubuntu_I have a Wireless card with a RT2561/RT61 chipset.10:46
wolferinemy ISP would have one10:46
ubuntu_I am running kbuntu 7.04 beta as a live CD10:46
ubuntu_when i click the network manager i can see a wireless network, but when I try to connect it it goes no firther than 28% (device configuration)10:46
jhutchinswolferine: Proxies for what?10:46
Daisuke_Idoubuntu_: tjat10:46
Daisuke_Idoouch10:46
wolferinegood question10:46
Daisuke_Idothat looks connected10:46
wolferinefor my FTP client maybe?10:46
jhutchinswolferine: Why?10:47
ubuntu_yeah, but i cannot connect to the wireless router (which is 192.168.0.2)10:47
BloodyTuxubuntu: oh yea, like i said before, it could just be that the beta hasn't been fully worked out yet so submit a bug10:47
BloodyTux!bugs | ubuntu_10:47
ubotuubuntu_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots10:47
Daisuke_Idoyou got an ack from the router, and got an ip10:47
Daisuke_Idowhat's the problem?10:47
jhutchinswolferine: If your ISP has an FTP proxy, you would go to their web page and look for help on configuration for what to use.10:47
wolferinejhutchins, not sure I understand your question10:47
ubuntu_well, i tried 6.10 kubuntu yesterday, and it didn't work at all10:47
jhutchinswolferine: Why do you want to use a proxy?10:47
BloodyTuxlaptop or desktop?10:48
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wolferinejhutchins, i want to understand what a proxy is10:48
ubuntu_read a bit around and found that my wireless chipset is not supported in 6.10, but it is in 7.04 (sans encryption, though)10:48
jhutchinswolferine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy10:48
BluesKajhey jhutchins , I've been setting up partitions to give /home it's own partition, but I've run into a snag ... I'm following this tutorial :http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/  . However, I've run into a snag after this command : find . -depth -print0 | cpio null sparse -pvd /mnt/newhome/...the errror is : cpio: You must specify one of -oipt options....not sure what in out options to specify10:48
wolferineread it10:48
wolferinedoesnt help10:48
Daisuke_Idoi repeat.  you have an ip, the router acknowledged you.  what exactly are you trying to do?10:48
ubuntu_I am trying to connect to a computer (xbox via ftp) which is connected to the router (with wire)10:49
BloodyTuxubuntu try unplugging the wireless router, then unplugging or removing your card, plug in the router, put in the card, then start10:49
Daisuke_Idothen you connect to the xbox's ip address, not the router's10:50
wolferineubuntu, did you setup the xbox to support FTP?10:50
Daisuke_IdoBloodyTux: he has a connection, check the pastebin10:50
ubuntu_yes, and yes10:50
BloodyTuxoh. oops10:50
wolferineubuntu, do you have the address of the router?10:50
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wolferinei mean, the xbox*10:50
Daisuke_Ido192.168.0.210:50
ubuntu_i tried to connect to the router, too, just to see if i was able to get ther10:50
Asasin*sigh* it didn't recognize it as a bootable device. But Windows is loading on it what the heck.10:50
Daisuke_Ido:D10:50
ubuntu_192.168.0.2 is the router, 192.168.0.23 is the xbox10:51
Daisuke_IdoAsasin: if it's not seen as a bootable device, it will go past and load from the first ahrd drive (windows)10:51
wolferineubuntu, what happens when you FTP to that address?10:51
AsasinI know, but the main problem I was having is that Windows wouldn't load at all.10:51
wolferineu know it needs a port as well, correct?10:51
Daisuke_Idowhat happens when you ping that address10:51
BloodyTuxasasin, what is your problem again? i forgot10:51
ubuntu_at first it said it couldn't find host10:51
AsasinWindows is screwed up (usually) and it won't load (ntfs.sys error) so I was trying to get Kubuntu on there.10:52
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AsasinAnd the CD ROM drive is dead... so I was going to use an SD card.10:52
wolferineubuntu, do you have a port for it ?10:52
AsasinIs it possible to install Kubuntu while Windows is Running? :\10:52
wolferineAsasin, someone is working on it10:52
BloodyTuxmy advice is to live cd kubuntu or another linux, copy the needed files from windows to the sd, reinstall windows but save half the harddrive, then install kubuntu on the other half and grub will dual boot10:53
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wolferineAsasin, its called install.exe, look in the ubuntu documentation for ir10:53
wolferineit*10:53
Daisuke_Ido!install.exe10:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about install.exe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:53
Daisuke_Idoprobably nothing10:53
Daisuke_Idoyeah, thought so :\10:53
BloodyTux!ubotu | ubotu10:54
ubotuubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:54
AsasinOh well, thanks10:54
AsasinIt just died on me again -_-10:54
BloodyTuxread wat i said before...10:54
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AsasinYes but I can't use a live disc on a computer with a dead CD ROM drive...10:55
BloodyTuxouch10:55
Asasinlol10:55
ubuntu__sorry, got disconnected10:55
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Daisuke_Idoouch10:55
AsasinBut I appreciate your advice.10:55
BloodyTuxseems you are kind of screwed, no offense10:55
Daisuke_Idocan you borrow a friend's? :)10:55
AsasinxD That's alright.10:55
AsasinFriend's what?10:55
BloodyTuxyou could go out and get a usb cdrom10:55
Daisuke_Idocdrom10:55
Daisuke_Idoi'm tempted to drop in my ide card, put this hdd back into service10:56
ubuntu__ok, now after my internet connection screwed up and I had to reboot, i can actualy ping my xbox10:56
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Daisuke_Idofrom here, you should be alright :)10:56
ubuntu__now that this works, i might install kubuntu, on my hd10:56
ubuntu__i think the sudo dhclient ra0 worked10:57
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: this is going to sound strange, but if you realy want to go linux, don't dual boot.10:57
AsasinOk, I've tried an external DVD burner but my computer doesn't recognize that at all10:57
Daisuke_Ido:)10:57
Daisuke_Idoboot from usb10:57
Daisuke_Idomake sure you've got that set in the bios, most don't by default10:57
ubuntu__Daisuke_Ido: I am thinking about switching completely from Windows10:57
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BloodyTuxNO10:58
ubuntu__but I wanted to test it first, so I used the Live CD10:58
BloodyTuxWINDOWS=VIRUSES & other bad junk10:58
AsasinWell it's done I guess... So annoying though... no laptop for two weeks at least -_-10:58
AsasinNothing wrong with Windows >_>10:58
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BloodyTuxwindows is ok but way to insecure10:58
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: definitely don't dual boot.  you'll find something you can't do as easily in linux (yet) as you can in windows, so you boot back into windows and forget linux is there10:58
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Daisuke_Idothe best way to switch is to switch10:58
BloodyTuxpeople think linux is insecure from it being opensource but they are wrong10:59
Tm_TBloodyTux: if you're doing politics...10:59
BloodyTuxofftopic i know10:59
Tm_TBloodyTux: :)10:59
BloodyTuxi'll shut up10:59
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Tm_TBloodyTux: no, don't shut up :)10:59
AsasinMaybe my brother will let me borrow his computer or something... Oh well. Hey thanks a lot for all your help.10:59
ubuntu__well, gonna go to bed now. gonna install kubuntu tomorrow10:59
ubuntu__thanks for the help.11:00
BloodyTuxcya11:00
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: good luck, and welcome to the cult^H^H^H^Hfold11:00
Daisuke_Idoaww11:00
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AsasinToo slow11:00
BloodyTuxlol11:00
BloodyTux#kubuntu-offtopic11:01
AsasinAlright see you guys later.11:01
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soulrider!dual11:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
soulrider!dualscreens11:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dualscreens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
soulrider!clonse11:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clonse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
soulrider!clone11:05
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" - See also !automate11:05
ash211!automate11:05
ubotuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning11:05
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soulrider!xinera,a11:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xinera,a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:06
soulrider!xinerama11:06
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead11:06
soulrider!dualhead11:06
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama11:06
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BloodyTuxhow do you getsolsuite working? i can't with wine or cedega11:07
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soulridersolsuite ?11:07
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BloodyTuxyea11:07
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BloodyTux450+ solitaire games11:08
soulrideruhm, windows program ?11:08
BloodyTuxmy mom is bugging me like crazy to get it to work, yea11:08
BloodyTuxcrossover, wine, and cedega always fail11:08
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BloodyTux!emulation11:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emulation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:09
BloodyTux!wine11:09
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.11:09
soulrider!compiling11:09
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:09
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soulrider!mythtv11:10
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV11:10
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jhutchinsDoes anyone have 1)Any USB Wireless card and B) A netgear WG111T working in either Edgy or Feisty?11:11
BloodyTuxnope11:12
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ash211jhutchins: I have 2 PCI cards and centrino, but haven't tried any USB11:12
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judgenis there any macro app for linux?11:12
stanleyhey BloodyTux: could u help me with a frostwire problem11:13
stanleyit just kicks out automantically11:13
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judgeni need my computer to press the space button every 12 seconds. without me sitting by the computer11:13
BloodyTuxfrostwire?11:13
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stanleyyea11:15
BloodyTuxwhats up11:16
MinceRvector 180 from the COM of the nearest gravity well11:16
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bobstroBloodyTux: you could just install some native linux solitaire games and tell her those are it.11:17
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stanleybloodytux: my frostwire just automatically kicks out while i'm using it11:18
judgeni need my computer to press the space button every 12 seconds. without me sitting by the computer, any ideas?11:18
BloodyTuxbobstro: yea but i can't get algerian patience. she's threatening me by saying if i dont im going back to windoze11:18
BloodyTuxhmmmmm11:18
bobstroBloodyTux: threaten HER with return to windows! :)11:18
BloodyTuxlol11:18
bobstroBloodyTux: do you have other stuff going in wine?11:19
Peakerjudgen: you would need a robot for that :-) You probably want to simulate a space key pressed event for some specific application? why?11:19
BloodyTuxstanley: try reinstalling frostwire11:19
jhutchinsjudgen: man crontab11:19
BloodyTuxbobstro: no i want byond buy i get a application error11:19
BloodyTux*but11:19
BloodyTux!upgrade11:19
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)11:19
bobstroBloodyTux: so you need to do the basic install even?11:19
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BloodyTuxi can install fine11:20
BloodyTuxall apps i install fail to works11:20
judgenPeaker: i have to w8 10 sec for the nag picture to be removed to download a userfrienly cartoon strip. And to download a couple of thousand strips by sitting next to the computer will take ages11:20
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Peakerjudgen: you should script a downloader script that iterates the web site11:20
jhutchinsOookay then, Feisty coming off, Mandriva 2001.1 going on instead.11:20
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bobstroBloodyTux: ah, ok. i installed ies4linux, and have copied that over as a template, but may not apply to this.11:20
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Peakerjudgen: via firefox extension to do it - or Python with some library - or a shell script with wget perhaps11:21
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BloodyTuxtemplate??? i rock with linux crpa but wine is foreign to my sorta11:21
judgenfirefox addon works badly11:21
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bobstrodoesn't dailystrips do userfriendly?11:21
judgenPeaker: the stripclub app does it very clean and good, but i just need a macro or something to press my space bar every 12 sec or there about11:22
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bobstrojudgen: have you checked out dailystrips?11:22
judgenbut it crashes of i glue the spacebar down11:22
Peakerjudgen: what the heck is stripclub?11:23
bobstrojudgen: dailystrips will download userfriendly for you (and lots of others)11:23
Peakerwine is bad :( It still doesn't emulate even win95 :(11:23
bobstrowindows is bad. it doesn't work with wine.11:23
judgenPeaker: wine works very fine for me11:23
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BloodyTuxwine always crashes my programs11:24
Peakerjudgen: it emulates some subsets good enough for some applications and games11:24
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Peakerjudgen: But I think its very disappointing that stuff win95 could run are still not runnable in Wine11:24
Peakerjudgen: its been more than 12 years11:24
BloodyTuxi even bought crossover and cedega for these to progs but they dont work :(11:24
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BloodyTuxi want a refund11:24
bobstroPeaker: that's the nature of proprietary software.11:24
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judgenPeaker:  i use adobe illustrator, photoshop, ultimotax, and flash through wine. What more could i ask for?11:25
bobstroPeaker: it is often crippled so that it won't work even if there is no technical reason it shouldn't.11:25
judgenand it works ever better than in windows for my purposes11:25
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Peakerbobstro: Yeah - but the wine guys had 12 years to implement the entire win32 api that existed in win95 - and still haven't done o11:25
Peakerjudgen: Why flash? why not natively? Everything I ever tried running in wine didn't work properly11:26
Peakerjudgen: Starcraft is the main thing - it works only in single player mode :(11:26
bobstroPeaker: considering the size of the code for even win95 and the fact  that microsoft goes to lengths to NOT make information available ... not to mention most of the developers aren't paid staff... are you that surprised?11:26
PeakerBecause Wine does not properly emulate a Windows bug, it seems :(11:26
judgenPeaker: also many apps of win95 era is not working in microsofts OWN newer lines of products. Even though they have the source code ffs =)11:26
Peakerbobstro: Given that other Opensource projects have shown amazingly fast progress - yeah I am surprised..11:26
judgenPeaker: does Macromedia/Adobe Flash even exist for Linux?11:27
PeakerAll I want in wine -- is Starcraft :)11:27
Peakerjudgen: yeah it does11:27
judgenPeaker: since when?11:27
bobstroPeaker: wasn't starcraft a DOS program?11:27
judgenPeaker: Starcraft works fine here11:27
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judgenbut im using cedega11:27
Peakerwhat about battle.net?11:27
Peakerbobstro: no it was win9511:27
Peakerbobstro: or win9811:28
bobstroPeaker: ah, ok. must be thinking of an older one. we used to play those a LTO.11:28
bobstroer, LOT11:28
Peakerjudgen: since forever, there was a flash, I think11:28
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Peakerbobstro: Warcraft II ?11:28
bobstroPeaker: yeah, that and C&C.11:28
bobstroPeaker: not on linux mind you!11:28
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Peakerbobstro: C&C sucks, Westwood can't design games :-)11:29
PeakerBlizzard are *great* game designers, but horrible at restricting their users and DRM and crap11:29
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wolferinehow do I restart the nfs service in ubuntu?11:30
bobstroPeaker: it was a "family time" thing. 3 of us on a LAN. good fun.11:30
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Peakerbobstro: yeah its fun to RTS against people :-) When you go online though, you suddenly hit much higher levels (because the net players tend to grow towards the highest players' levels, and not the other way around)11:31
bobstrowolferine: sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart (assuming you mean kernel server) works.11:31
Peakerbobstro: and then the games against family and friends seem like n00b games :-)11:31
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bobstroPeaker: yeah, we rarely play out single player mode. right to online multiplayer if we can. warcraft was our first online... or maybe that was duke. insane at the time.11:32
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bobstroPeaker: (i didn't let the kiddies do doom until they got older)11:32
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bobstrowolferine: there may be a gui tool for that too.11:33
bobstrowolferine: you can also use System Settings->Advanced->System Services (in administrator mode) though it takes longer that way.11:34
wolferinebobesponja, thanks11:34
bobesponjawolferine: you're welcome11:35
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makihow to autostart adsl11:36
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N6REJhas anyone successfully gotten vmware server to install lately?11:37
makii need manualy to execute pon dsl-provider11:37
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BloodyTuxhey11:53
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BloodyTuxwhen i upgrade from edgy to feisty the distrobution upgrader says it can't find www.packages.debian.org. any ideas?11:54
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VSpikewhat is "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/software-properties" and why has it been hogging 100% cpu for hours?11:55
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adaptrit's your installed software applet12:00
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VSpikeadaptr: was that ti ne?12:02
VSpikeadaptr: was that to me, even?12:02
pollyoHello12:02
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adaptrVSpike: yes12:02
pollyoDoes firefox have the ability to use encrtption on websites?12:02
cloakableYes12:03
pollyoDoes it have any indication when it is active?12:03
adaptrpollyo: if you mean does FF support Secure HTTP, of course12:03
adaptrpollyo: right bottom of status bar, and a lock icon at the end of the URL bar12:04
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pollyoadaptr: Ok. Thank you.12:04
adaptrpollyo: clicking it gets you the site's certificate12:04
cloakablepollyo: I *think* the adress bar turns a different colour, but that might be konqueror.12:04
adaptrprobably, it's not FF12:04
cloakableWhy aren't you using konqueror, anyhow? :P12:05
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pollyocloakable: Is there any difference in the two?12:05
dave_I'm using fiesty and have noticed that occasionally adept shows the wrong description for packages, has anyone else xperienced this?12:05
rubyatFF turns yellow or gold on secure sites12:06
cloakablepollyo: Yep :P Konqueror is a lot more integrated into KDE :)12:06
soulriderwhat program can i use to convert mp3 files?12:06
soulrideras in reencode them to lower the bitrate12:06
adaptr.... which is not necessarily a good thing... IE is also very integrated with Windows12:06
cloakablesoulrider: ffmpeg?12:06
chijinsoulrider: re-encoding mp3 files is bad, you lose a lot of quality in the process12:07
adaptr!lame | soulrider12:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:07
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adaptryou lame bot!12:07
chijinsoulrider: as in the resulting file is actually a lot worse than the bitrate would suggest12:07
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soulriderchijin: for some reason my friggin mp3 player will do random stuff when playing MP3s, the only thing ive seen really works is lowering the bitrate12:07
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cloakable!ffmpeg | soulrider12:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:08
pollyoDoes kde have any type of cd burning built into to konqueror?  I was using gnome the other day and noticed it was somewhat easy to copy files to the cd burner.  I haven't looked at it in kde.12:08
chijinsoulrider: well it's actually very easy12:08
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chijinsoulrider: install lame, decode the files and re-encode them. or, you can use a graphical frontend for lame and do the same thing12:09
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BloodyTuxhow do i edit sources.list if im not root?12:09
cloakableBloodyTux: You can't12:09
WillLuongobloodytux: kdesu kate sources.list12:09
Daisuke_IdoBloodyTux: sudo12:09
soulriderchijin: i was thinking of a GUI, yes12:09
BloodyTuxl12:09
BloodyTuxk12:09
chijinsoulrider: i'm running foobar with wine to convert my files :-)12:10
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WillLuongoI had a problem with a failed .deb install, how can I manually remove that package?12:10
soulrideroh my12:11
Daisuke_Idochijin: huhwha?  why not soundkonverter12:11
Daisuke_Idowhich is OH so much simpler and will leave you with less of a headache and more time to practice ballet, sugar :)12:11
chijinDaisuke_Ido: well, foobar does things faster than native ones12:11
soulrideryeah12:11
soulrideri used ti some time ago, i gues sill install it again12:11
WillLuongoCan anyone help me remove a broken package from adept?12:12
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Daisuke_IdoWillLuongo: go to the terminal: 'sudo apt-get -f install'12:12
BloodyTuxFailed to fetch http://packages.debian.org/dists/Debian/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found12:12
BloodyTux:(12:12
BloodyTuxnot cool12:12
cloakable:/12:12
chijinDaisuke_Ido: also, try to convert an alac file to flac with soundkonverter. does that work? :P12:13
BloodyTuxso close to it working12:13
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cloakableMixing Debian and Ubuntu also not cool12:13
BloodyTuxany tips?12:13
BloodyTuxits the upgrade distro thingy12:13
Daisuke_Idoalac?12:13

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