[12:14] <Sanne> kai: you can simulate installing by: sudo apt-get -s install xchat
[12:14] <kai> Sanne: Im not a total nube,
[12:14] <Sanne> kai: then you cann see what would happern beforehand
[12:14] <Thass> I have a problem: I cant change my resolution, when I do it crashes back to the login page. And I am trying to change to a lower resolution so its a bit weird.
[12:14] <kai> I jiust odn't all the specifics when it comes to commands
[12:14] <Thass> anyone who can help? :)
[12:15] <Sanne> kai: you'll learn :). You can also search for xchat in adept or synaptic and install from there, if you prefer.
[12:15] <nuxil> hmmm is it worth installing the beta release?
[12:15] <ranjan> Thass: remove higher resolutions from xorg.conf and retsrta X
[12:16] <Sanne> nuxil: it may break. It's due on thursday.
[12:16] <Thass> How do I do that? Sorry I just switched to Linux so yah, unlike kai I AM a total nub :D
[12:17] <ranjan> Thass: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:17] <nuxil> Sanne, aha, then i can wait :)
[12:17] <Sanne> nuxil: heh :)
[12:17] <kai> like that cat var log, I woulda never thought of that
[12:17] <ranjan> Thass: when file is open look for Section "Screen"
[12:17] <kai> there was stuff I was doin in suse 10.1 for wireless(which I never got to work)
[12:18] <AlCantara> hello! im searching an easy to use ftp-server, with gui to be used by an user, not a deamon for root.
[12:18] <lookazooka> Thass: maybe you'll need a little googling, because you'll want to know how to deal with the xorg.conf file
[12:18] <Thass> ok lookazooka
[12:18] <Sanne> kai: that tail -f command? cool, isn't it? You can monitor every text file with that.
[12:18] <ranjan> Thass: to restart X Crl+Alt+Backspace
[12:19] <kai> so long as it get updated, Im still not overally familier witht the file system
[12:19] <kai> I messed up some stuff that I was never able to fi
[12:19] <kai> *fix
[12:21] <lookazooka> anyone knows how yo set the PCI sound card (SB Audigy2) as "preferred" over the mobo-integrated one (Intel ICH5)?
[12:23] <kai> Sanne: with the -f switch do
[12:28] <yannick> salut
[12:29] <yannick> il y a des fille qui voudrai parler
[12:29] <Plk-Cnty|Beer-Po> hola!!
[12:30] <yannick> c tranquil rare ici
[12:30] <posingaspopular> !fs
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[12:30] <posingaspopular> !fr
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[12:31] <compilerwriter> !it
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[12:31] <compilerwriter> !de
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[12:33] <kgx> !jp
[12:33] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[12:33] <sticksabuser> !ar
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[12:33] <kgx> !nz
[12:33] <ubotu> nz is the New Zealand LoCo Team has a channel at #ubuntu-nz
[12:33] <kgx> :D
[12:34] <Sanne> !botabuse
[12:34] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:40] <velle> Hey, could somebody help me with aptitude? I need to install unrar-nonfree, and I (I think) enabled Multiverse. But still I cant find it in aptitude.
[12:40] <kai> wasup w/ the bot
[12:40] <wolferine> velle
[12:40] <kai> They mad him fun to mess w/ or something
[12:40] <wolferine> dont get the unrar-free, get the unrar
[12:40] <Ace2016> Hi all
[12:40] <wolferine> velle, consult the Ubuntu Guide (use google), it will explain setting up the repos/installing unrar
[12:41] <Ace2016> anyone have a mouse with a mouse ball where the scroll wheel is? or a 8D scroll ball mouse?
[12:42] <wolferine> Ace2016, cannot get it installed, or issues with the setup?
[12:43] <acidBURN> is there a way to setup konqueror to use some of firefox plugins?
[12:43] <velle> wolferine: Ok, I've installed "unrar" now. And it seems to work. Thank you.
[12:43] <wolferine> np velle
[12:43] <Ace2016> wolferine: issues with the setup
[12:43] <wolferine> now get use to a cli rar, and not the GUI rar, your use to :)
[12:43] <wolferine> Ace2016, check the forums?
[12:43] <AlCantara> i am searching an easy to use ftp-server, with gui to be used by an user, not a deamon for root.
[12:43] <noxwayxhome> hello every one hows it hanging lol
[12:44] <bobstro> to the left
[12:44] <wolferine> AlCantara, a GUI one, why not just a cli?
[12:44] <Ace2016> wolferine: the up and down scroll correctly scrolls up and down in apps, however left and right act as a faster up and down scroll instead of a left and rght scroll
[12:44] <shawn34> can K3b burn VCDs?
[12:44] <wolferine> Ace2016, has it always been that way?
[12:44] <noxwayxhome> shawn34yess
[12:44] <wolferine> shadowraven, ask in #tovid, they know ALL about it
[12:45] <noxwayxhome> shawn34 yes it can
[12:45] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: how i can't find the option?
[12:45] <AlCantara> wolferine: my _user_ has to create different accounts with different ftp-folders and user-rights every day.
[12:45] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: do i need to install a plugin?
[12:45] <noxwayxhome> shawn34:  file- new projects
[12:45] <wolferine> AlCantara, ah, well, if your coming form a winblows environment, FTP just isnt the same :)
[12:46] <pyrotix> I've converted a bunch of .flv from youtube to .mpg's although my archos 404 needs to buy a codec to run those (grr), how would I convert the files to .avi?
[12:46] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: a crap, i can't convert avi to mpeg though can it
[12:46] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: damn
[12:46] <noxwayxhome> noxwayxhome: no you cant
[12:46] <wolferine> shawn34, tovid does .avi to .mpeg
[12:46] <shawn34> devede i guess
[12:46] <shawn34> tovid?
[12:46] <wolferine> yes
[12:46] <AlCantara> wolferine: yes. i used bpftp with windows. it was perfect.
[12:46] <wolferine> i gave you the channel for it already
[12:47] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: do a search on the net it is the best dvd rip around
[12:47] <wolferine> AlCantara, then run VMware or Wine :)
[12:47] <AlCantara> urgs
[12:47] <wolferine> hehe
[12:47] <wolferine> hey, its an option
[12:47] <pyrotix> is the answer to my question the same?
[12:47] <wolferine> as for a GUI FTP, I am sure there is one out there
[12:47] <pyrotix> trying to mpeg --->> .avi
[12:47] <noxwayxhome> wolferine: what do you want one for
[12:48] <wolferine> tovid wont do that pyrotix
[12:48] <AlCantara> but what about the port 21 access for a wine-application? can a app with user-rights aquire it?
[12:48] <wolferine> noxwayxhome, i think your getting comfuesd :)
[12:48] <pyrotix> GUI ftp: pure-ftp has a gnome frontend
[12:48] <AlCantara> cool. will try it
[12:48] <wolferine> AlCantara, you can do anything in linux :)
[12:48] <noxwayxhome> wolferine:sorry
[12:48] <wolferine> noxwayxhome, np
[12:48] <AlCantara> just found the pure-ftp configuration at /etc/pureftp
[12:49] <pyrotix> Now can someone tell me how to .mpg ---> .avi?
[12:49] <wolferine> AlCantara, either way, it just wont be the same as you had it
[12:49] <wolferine> pyrotix, did you google it?
[12:49] <noxwayxhome> DeVeDe this is a good program for dvd stuff look it up anyone how was asking
[12:50] <shawn34> ImportError: No module named pygtk
[12:50] <Ace2016> hi again
[12:50] <shawn34> when running devede: ImportError: No module named pygtk
[12:51] <Ace2016> anyone know how to map Win+left mouse button > middle click?????
[12:51] <AlCantara> pure-ftp website: "An excellent choice for newbies."  ... hope so... ;)
[12:51] <Ace2016> its just really hard to middle click with this thing
[12:51] <noxwayxhome> xampplite it is a good temp webserver for windows
[12:51] <BadRabbit320> do I need to access other channels thru 'channel list' each time I want to enter another channel?
[12:51] <wolferine> lol
[12:51] <shawn34> when running devede: ImportError: No module named pygtk, any ideas?
[12:52] <mrdlouisd> Im trying to format my external hdd to nfts what is a good program to do so?
[12:52] <wolferine> BadRabbit320, just type /join #newchannel
[12:52] <shawn34> BadRabbit320: no, /join #chan-name
[12:52] <wolferine> where each #newchannel, is the one you want to enter
[12:52] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, you want to do NTFS, why?
[12:53] <shawn34> any help with this error?
[12:53] <AlCantara> yes. xampp is very good, but complex. omniHTTPd is a good lightweight alternative in many cases
[12:53] <pyrotix> wolferine: no luck, although ffmpeg may possibly be able to convert .flv --> .avi I got lost in the man page
[12:53] <wolferine> AlCantara, I use proFTPd
[12:53] <mrdlouisd> its for my win32 server. I plucked this drive out of a dvr box I had and it will read in linux easier then win
[12:53] <shawn34> im trying to get this burned so me and my girl can watch this movie tonight
[12:53] <wolferine> pyrotix, ask in #tovid
[12:53] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: http://www.pygtk.org/ take look here
[12:53] <wolferine> really, they know a thing or two
[12:54] <BadRabbit320> so I still need to type the chan name each time?  Bookmarks is grayed once I click on it...
[12:54] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, will it primarily be a linux drive (will you want to write to it in Linux) ?
[12:54] <wolferine> BadRabbit320, what IRC client?
[12:54] <mrdlouisd> no its for my win32 server
[12:54] <mrdlouisd> thats why i would like to format to nfts
[12:54] <wolferine> then format it on the win box :)
[12:55] <mrdlouisd> wont recognize on the win drive
[12:55] <BadRabbit320> Konversation
[12:55] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: is it in the repositories?
[12:55] <mrdlouisd> it was plucked from a dvr and is ext format
[12:55] <wolferine> well, just to let you know, NTFS is hard to get along with linux
[12:55] <wolferine> fyi
[12:55] <mrdlouisd> i just want to format that is all
[12:55] <mrdlouisd> then it goes to the server
[12:55] <wolferine> well, you might want to ask in a win chanel
[12:56] <mrdlouisd> qpart wont work
[12:56] <mrdlouisd> qtpart i think its called
[12:56] <wolferine> Gnome Partition Editor?
[12:56] <mrdlouisd> ill just beat up google, figured id find someone thats preformed it before here, thanks wolf for the help
[12:56] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: give min
[12:57] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, u can probably just do it in the winbox, usb?
[12:57] <pyrotix> wolferine: I'm not trying to create a vcd, just to get a video file into a format my archos 404 (think ipod video-like thing) can play
[12:58] <wolferine> Pyrotix, last time, check out #tovid :)
[12:58] <pyrotix> kk
[12:59] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: see if you have the lattest version of python
[12:59] <AlCantara> pyrotix: are you sure, that pure-ftp has a gnome frontend? i cant find anything like that
[12:59] <mrdlouisd> wolf my prob is its in ext format and windows will not recognize that format
[01:00] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, partition magic?
[01:00] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, just because you cannot see the drive in "My computer", doesnt mean its not there
[01:00] <pyrotix> yep
[01:00] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: python 2.4.6-11ubuntu3
[01:00] <pyrotix> AlCantara: PureAdmin, for PureFTPd
[01:00] <mrdlouisd> just remembered that ill see if i cant get it to come up
[01:01] <AlCantara> thanks
[01:02] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: python 2.4.6-11ubuntu3... thats the latest right?
[01:02] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: yes that is what i have
[01:03] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: well i dont know
[01:03] <Ahmuck> items are not showing up on my k menu.  is there a way to get kmenu to add them automagically ?
[01:03] <wolferine> Ahmuck, kmenu doesnt do it, the programs do it themselves
[01:03] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: what desktop are you running
[01:03] <shawn34> kde
[01:03] <wolferine> or you would have to add them manually
[01:04] <wolferine> Ahmuck, as each application will require a different command to execute it
[01:04] <Ahmuck> i thought there was a program that would autodiscover programs and add them
[01:04] <Ahmuck> or at least i saw one in add/remove programs
[01:04] <wolferine> Ahmuck, google that, and see if your lucky :)
[01:06] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: you want to know somthing funny it is the same problem i am having with mine lol
[01:06] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: i just installed it and it is telling me the same thing
[01:07] <hitmanWilly> noxwayxhome, shawn34 what is it telling you? just got here
[01:07] <mrdlouisd> Thanks wolf remember getting a hdd to work awhile back on a comp, and just formated it on my win box, thanks again for refreshing my brain lol.
[01:07] <noxwayxhome> hitmanWilly: pygtk is missing
[01:08] <hitmanWilly> noxwayxhome, there's a gtk-specific python lib, hod on a sec...
[01:08] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, np
[01:08] <noxwayxhome> hitmanWilly that is what i was looking up right know
[01:08] <noxwayxhome> on there site
[01:09] <hitmanWilly> python-gtk2
[01:09] <Ahmuck> i added a buch of apps, such as bluefish, etc and i had kde menu editor open when doing it ... would this cause the icons not to be added to the menu?
[01:09] <hitmanWilly> and python-gtk2-dev
[01:09] <noxwayxhome> lol thanks hitman
[01:09] <shawn34> apt-get install python-gtk2   ?
[01:09] <hitmanWilly> shawn34, yup
[01:09] <noxwayxhome> hitmanWilly: try this one know
[01:09] <hitmanWilly> see if that works
[01:10] <pyrotix> Can someone tell me how to .mpg ---> .avi?
[01:10] <noxwayxhome> hitmanWilly: where is the past bin site at
[01:10] <noxwayxhome> i have another err
[01:10] <hitmanWilly> !paste
[01:10] <shawn34> lol
[01:10] <eagles0513875> i feel like a total idiot
[01:10] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: lol
[01:10] <shawn34> now it can't find glade
[01:10] <shawn34> lord
[01:11] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: that is what i am geting now two
[01:11] <lettuce_> I have two HDs, one with kubuntu and one with Windows. I can boot from each of them, but only if the other one is unplugged. When I have both of them plugged in, the one with kubuntu begins to boot, but then gives and error and doesn't start. Will installing lilo allow me to choose which HD to boot from, or do I have to do something else?
[01:11] <hitmanWilly> shawn34, dis you install this through the repos?
[01:11] <noxwayxhome> lettuce_: you need to install grub on the mrb
[01:11] <lettuce_> what's mrb?
[01:11] <eagles0513875> u mean mbr
[01:11] <pyrotix> Can someone tell me how to .mpg ---> AVI, DivX, MPEG4 or ASF?
[01:11] <eagles0513875> lettuce_: mbr
[01:12] <noxwayxhome> eagles0513875: yes
[01:12] <lettuce_> ok, what's that? :)
[01:12] <angasule> pyrotix: mplayer can do it
[01:12] <hitmanWilly> !codecs | pyrotix
[01:12] <eagles0513875> lettuce_: make sure u installed windows first
[01:12] <hitmanWilly> is the bot dead?
[01:12] <eagles0513875> if u r planning on doing a duel boot
[01:12] <eagles0513875> !help[
[01:12] <lettuce_> well crap I don't want to go through all this again
[01:12] <eagles0513875> lettuce_: did u install linux first
[01:12] <lettuce_> is there anything I can do?
[01:13] <eagles0513875> not that i know of
[01:13] <lettuce_> ya linus first
[01:13] <eagles0513875> humm
[01:13] <lettuce_> *linux
[01:13] <kai> I had the flash plugins for firefox and opera and it worked fine, I restarted and now sites like speedtest.net dont work any its like it was never installed. Any one else have that problem?
[01:13] <eagles0513875> i dunno lettuce_ im still a noob
[01:13] <eagles0513875> r u using edgy or feisty
[01:13] <pyrotix> !codecs
[01:13] <lettuce_> so am i lol
[01:13] <eagles0513875> !codecs
[01:13] <lettuce_> it's ok :)
[01:13] <pyrotix> !codecs
[01:13] <pyrotix> WHAT
[01:13] <eagles0513875> lol the bot has arrived
[01:13] <pyrotix> HE WON'T HELP ME
[01:14] <pyrotix> GORRAM BOT
[01:14] <eagles0513875> !codecs | pyrotix
[01:14] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, you have to reinstall grub since windows overrides the hdd's boot sector
[01:14] <lettuce_> but what did you mean by installing grub on the mbr?
[01:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:14] <hitmanWilly> yay, bot!!
[01:14] <eagles0513875> that is what i mean when i said install windows first
[01:14] <KrAmMeR> does anyone know how to fix choppy video in MergedFB?
[01:14] <ubotu> pyrotix: please see above
[01:14] <eagles0513875> once windows is installed it installs it onto the mbf
[01:14] <eagles0513875> *mbr
[01:15] <hitmanWilly> !grub | lettuce_
[01:15] <shawn34> hitmanWilly: its looking for glade, gtk.glade, there are many packages with 'glade' in the name...
[01:15] <lettuce_> do i have to reinstall linux to do that or is there a way to only reinstall grub
[01:15] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: got it python-glade2
[01:15] <KrAmMeR> or is that just the quality of my graphics card
[01:15] <shawn34> i just did that
[01:15] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: lol
[01:15] <lettuce_> oh ok !grub in terminal?
[01:15] <ubotu> lettuce_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:15] <shawn34> wait no
[01:15] <shawn34> i did glade-2.1
[01:15] <shawn34> brb
[01:15] <hitmanWilly> shawn34, it'll be libglade<something or other>
[01:15] <lettuce_> what if I install lilo?
[01:16] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, why would you want to do that?
[01:16] <lettuce_> cause It could substitute for grub
[01:16] <shawn34> Got it!
[01:17] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: python-glade2 vcdimager
[01:17] <eagles0513875> j/w
[01:17] <shawn34> thanks guys
[01:17] <eagles0513875> i have an nvidia gpu
[01:17] <ubuntu> coldfr3ak, you here?
[01:17] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, it doesn't matter, either one will work only if it is installed AFTER windows
[01:17] <ubuntu> nope
[01:17] <lettuce_> ok thank you
[01:17] <eagles0513875> only thing is when i do glxinfo it comes up as direct rendering as no y is that but when i run glxgears it runs flawlessly
[01:17] <ubuntu> #ubuntuforums
[01:18] <ubuntu> #ubuntu
[01:18] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, there's a tutorial somewhere on how to do it, search on the ubuntu wiki's, the bot knows, but it's ignoring me
[01:18] <lettuce_> if I reinstall grub from a package manager, will that do?
[01:18] <eagles0513875> bot is broken
[01:19] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, if you can boot into nix, then yes
[01:19] <pyrotix> eagles0513875: mplayer I thought just played video, I'm trying to convert .mpg (MPEG-1) -> AVI, DivX, MPEG4 or ASF?
[01:19] <lettuce_> what do you mean by that?
[01:19] <ubuntu> Fr3ak, you here?
[01:19] <pyrotix> forget the question mark
[01:19] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, you said you installed windows after nix, right?
[01:19] <eagles0513875> i know there is a converter pyrotix but i dont remember the name
[01:19] <lettuce_> what's nix?
[01:20] <eagles0513875> let me chekc pkg repository pyrotix
[01:20] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, ubuntu
[01:20] <lettuce_> ok, ya
[01:20] <ubuntu> ?
[01:20] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, sorry, refering to prog, not you
[01:20] <ubuntu> ok sorry
[01:20] <ubuntu> actually I'm danny500
[01:21] <ubuntu> but my main drive is fed up and I can't get it to boot
[01:21] <eagles0513875> i cant find it pyrotix
[01:21] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, do you have a livecd handy?
[01:21] <ubuntu> I have to drives with ubuntu cause I just stuck a new drive in that had it and now I can't use my original drive
[01:22] <lettuce_> ya
[01:22] <lettuce_> tons
[01:22] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, nix is just shorthand for any unix/linux/bsd type system
[01:22] <ubuntu> any ideas what to do?
[01:22] <lettuce_> oh, ok
[01:23] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, you'll probably have to boot into that(livecd) to fix this issue
[01:24] <Ace2016> wolferine: no luck, tried the stuff in the forums, the mouse buttons just aren't detected, this is the mouse:   http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=38162&DOY=search&C=SO&U=Strat12
[01:25] <Ace2016> can anyone help
[01:25] <eagles0513875> whats wrong ace
[01:25] <IdleOne> just installed kubuntu-desktop and logged back in. I get the kubuntu login screen but I the default ubuntu desktop loads up? what do I need to uninstall to get just kubuntu on my system?
[01:25] <Ace2016> buttons 6 and 7 are being detected as 5 and 6
[01:25] <Ace2016> argh sorry
[01:25] <eagles0513875> u mean a keyboard issue
[01:25] <Ace2016> nope mouse issue
[01:25] <eagles0513875> IdleOne: just download server if u only want cli
[01:25] <eagles0513875> let me c ace
[01:26] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, select kde as default session form login screen
[01:26] <hitmanWilly> *from
[01:26] <IdleOne> eagles0513875: dont want cli I want Kubuntu without the gnome stuff that was on here before
[01:26] <ubuntu> wow, they have good servers for downloading Ubuntu 6.10, I'm downloading it at a good 1.5MB/s :D
[01:26] <hitmanWilly> nice!
[01:26] <ubuntu> impressive
[01:27] <hitmanWilly> i generally top out at 5-600 k
[01:27] <Ace2016> eagles0513875: i modified my xorg.conf to try and get it to work but no luck http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/552
[01:27] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: didnt see where to choose session on the login screen
[01:27] <ubuntu> they need to get a better server for the updates
[01:27] <ubuntu> cause I do 500kb/s max while updating
[01:28] <ubuntu> and with 300 programs to download thats kinda frustrating lol
[01:28] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, it could be anywhere, depending on the login screen theme
[01:28] <ubuntu> Hey um, I'm having a problem botting from my one Ubuntu drive
[01:28] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: im assuming it's default
[01:28] <IdleOne> gonna check and see
[01:29] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, it'll should have something like <Session> on it
[01:29] <ubuntu> I just put a new hd in and installed ubuntu on it aswell and when I restatted the computer the first hd stopped alowing me to boot from it
[01:29] <ubuntu> any help?
[01:29] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, did the installer screw up the MBR somehow?
[01:30] <ubuntu> whats the MBR?
[01:30] <chemicalvamp> master boot record
[01:30] <ubuntu> don't know
[01:30] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, Master Boot REcord
[01:30] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu do you use grub?
[01:30] <ubuntu> yes
[01:30] <chemicalvamp> your on a live cd right
[01:31] <ubuntu> nope, I'm on the drive I just installed ubuntu on
[01:31] <ubuntu> my original drive won't boot, this one is fine but I only want to use this drive as storage
[01:32] <chemicalvamp> do you know how to mount your faulty install?
[01:32] <chemicalvamp> imean the drive its on
[01:33] <danny500> yes, both drives are on
[01:33] <danny500> I even told the bios to not look to this drive for boot records and to look specifically at the original drive for boot records and still nothing
[01:34] <danny500> I tried taking this drive out thinking the two drives were colliding with each other and even that won't work, I'm thinking about just reinstalling ubuntu
[01:34] <chemicalvamp> paste bin /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/menu.lst please (replace /mnt/hda1 with your mount point)
[01:35] <angasule>  hello, is it possible to access another computer with fish as a user, but sudo su so that I have superuser access? it's a kubuntu box and I dont want to add a password (and certainly won't allow root login through ssh), but I need to copy all files off /
[01:35] <danny500> ok
[01:36] <danny500> how do I see the hard drives attached right now in terminal?
[01:36] <chemicalvamp> fdisk -l
[01:36] <danny500> ok
[01:37] <chemicalvamp> im not sure tho, i cant test it cuz im running a live cd (wireless adapter doesnt work in feisty yet)
[01:38] <Ace2016> danny500: so it just won't boot? are you sure windows is still there?
[01:38] <Ace2016> just that someone wiped windows this morning and it took a long time to realise that
[01:38] <danny500> windows?
[01:39] <Ace2016> oh i thought yuo said windows couldn't boot
[01:39] <danny500> no, I had Ubuntu working on my original for like a week then  I got a new drive that I was going to use for torrents and when I installed ubuntu on it the first hd stopped booting
[01:39] <danny500> no, fuck windows
[01:39] <danny500> oops
[01:40] <danny500>  languag
[01:40] <danny500> sorry
[01:41] <soulrider__> danny500: what might have happened is that hte partition you had ubuntu on changed names
[01:41] <soulrider__> like, say it was hda, it could ahve changed to hdb
[01:41] <soulrider__> thats why it wouldnt boot
[01:42] <danny500> how can that happen? the
[01:43] <danny500> ubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$  bin /mnt/hdb1/boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:43] <danny500> bash: bin: command not found
[01:43] <danny500> oops nm my bad
[01:44] <danny500> !pastebin
[01:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:45] <danny500> ok, I'm paste binning what it said
[01:47] <hitmanWilly> danny500, you're not running feisty are you?
[01:47] <danny500> no, 6.06
[01:47] <chemicalvamp> danny500 im pretty sure you need to fix your boot menu
[01:47] <danny500> how do I do that?
[01:47] <danny500> in the bios
[01:47] <hitmanWilly> danny500, /etc/grub/menu.lst
[01:48] <danny500> now check pastebin
[01:48] <chemicalvamp> run fdisk -l to see your partitions, figure out which one you need to fix
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> well its /boot/grub/menu.lst for me
[01:49] <danny500> I'm just going to install 6.10 and see if that fix's it
[01:50] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, yeah, that's right, typo
[01:50] <danny500> permission denied
[01:50] <hitmanWilly> danny500, sudo it
[01:50] <danny500> oh ok
[01:50] <chemicalvamp> we gotta teach him how to add his ubuntu  boot to it, and i never done it before
[01:51] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, i have, it's ok
[01:51] <danny500> command not found
[01:51] <danny500> DAMNIT!
[01:51] <danny500> forget it
[01:51] <danny500> I'll just install 6.10
[01:51] <rubyat> danny500: just do manual partitioning when you install
[01:51] <chemicalvamp> its 0,0 for first drive first partition, but is it 1,0 for second drive second partition?
[01:51] <danny500> yeah, I will
[01:52] <chemicalvamp> danny500 whats your mount directory for tyhe drive
[01:52] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, (1,0) = second drive, first partition
[01:52] <danny500> hdb1
[01:52] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, first # drive, second # partition
[01:52] <chemicalvamp> what are you running right now ubuntu?
[01:53] <chemicalvamp> whats the text editor for it
[01:53] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, for stock ubuntu its either gedit or nano
[01:53] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, or vim for the old school types :)
[01:54] <chemicalvamp> gksudo gedit /mnt/hdb1/boot/grub/menu.lst should be right then
[01:54] <danny500> how do I burn a bootable cd of linux using K3b?
[01:54] <chemicalvamp> burn an image
[01:54] <danny500> yeah, I know that
[01:54] <chemicalvamp> if the image is of a bootable cd.. the created cd will be bootable
[01:54] <danny500> but is there any options I have to click or anything like that?
[01:54] <Ahmuck> is it possible to install windows xp home without screwing up my new shine feisty install
[01:55] <chemicalvamp> nope easy as pie
[01:55] <danny500> ok
[01:55] <danny500> gksudo gedit /mnt/hdb1/boot/grub/menu.lst worked
[01:55] <chemicalvamp> Ahmuck do you have an empty partition
[01:55] <chemicalvamp> lol ever seen this one?
[01:55] <chemicalvamp> !windows
[01:55] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:56] <danny500> HAHAHAHAHA mental institute :D
[01:56] <chemicalvamp> lol i know
[01:56] <Ahmuck> chemicalvamp: yes
[01:56] <danny500> gotta love that
[01:56] <Thass> ok, I need some help (again) :/
[01:56] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, actually, you don't need the /boot on that path, ubu mounts the partition on /boot
[01:56] <danny500> does anyone here use Breyl?
[01:56] <hitmanWilly> danny500, yes
[01:56] <Thass> I have a via graphic card, I just downloaded the driver but I dont know how to install them?
[01:57] <danny500> you like it?
[01:57] <hitmanWilly> danny500, yes
[01:57] <chemicalvamp> Ahmuck go thru the installer on your free partion then you gotta make sure grub has it in the menu/lst
[01:57] <hitmanWilly> danny500, very much so
[01:57] <danny500> ok how good of a computer do you need to use it?
[01:57] <chemicalvamp> beryl was pretty messy for me
[01:57] <chemicalvamp> pretty good
[01:57] <danny500> I have a 550MHz P3, with 320RAM, and a 8MB graphics card, think that will work?
[01:57] <hitmanWilly> danny500, anything reasonably modern with a 3D graphics card should handle it
[01:58] <chemicalvamp> uhh no
[01:58] <hitmanWilly> danny500, no
[01:58] <danny500> ok just wondering
[01:58] <danny500> lol
[01:58] <Thass> Can anyone help me? im a nub :P
[01:58] <danny500> yp
[01:58] <danny500> yep
[01:58] <chemicalvamp> i got a 2.2ghz 1 gig ram, and 32 mb video, and i wasnt liking the massive processor lag in xgl
[01:58] <hitmanWilly> danny500, you need like at least a 64mb 3d accelerator for starters
[01:58] <danny500> oh ok
[01:58] <Thass> I downloaded via graphic card drivers, but I dont know how to install them
[01:59] <chemicalvamp> i mean 64*
[01:59] <Ahmuck> chemicalvamp: so if i install windows xp home after i have installed the other it won't destroy the grub menu?
[01:59] <hitmanWilly> Thass, did you download them from the repos?
[01:59] <danny500> well I'm making a new computer right now that will have 3GHz dual core, with 2GB RAM and a 512MB graphics card, Think that will work ok? :D
[01:59] <chemicalvamp> nope, but your gonna have to add the windows boot info to your grub menu
[01:59] <hitmanWilly> Thass, ie apt-get
[01:59] <Thass> hitmanWilly:  no I got it from viarena
[01:59] <Thass> *via arena
[02:00] <hitmanWilly> Thass, i think they have them in the repos, those install themselves
[02:00] <chemicalvamp> danny500 can you pastebin that menu.lst?
[02:00] <hitmanWilly> !via
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <danny500> no it's ok, I'm going to install 6.10 now
[02:00] <hitmanWilly> ok, maybe not:)
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> Thass, what's the problem?
[02:01] <chemicalvamp> !bot snack
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <chemicalvamp> they got rid of bot snack?
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> !snack
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <danny500> !ubotu snack
[02:01] <Thass> well my screen "refreshrate" or whatever is really slow, so I figured it must be the driver
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> LAME!!!
[02:01] <chemicalvamp> !ping
[02:01] <ubotu> pong
[02:01] <danny500> !marco
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about marco - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <danny500> lol darn
[02:02] <danny500> !ping
[02:02] <chemicalvamp> she doesnt like you lol
[02:02] <pyrotix> Can someone tell me how to change .mpg ---> AVI, DivX, MPEG4 or ASF?
[02:02] <danny500> yo, go to www.funnyordie.com and watch the landlord movie, it's way to funny
[02:02] <vontux> pyrotix: I believe mplayer can do that for you
[02:02] <danny500> you can use vlc to
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> danny500 did you get it all fixed up or do you need help? if you need help you gotta paste you menu.lst
[02:03] <hitmanWilly> Thass, i really don't know too much about via graphics cards, do they have any tutorials or anything on the site?
[02:03] <danny500> no, I'm just going to install 6.10 over it and see if that works, if not I'll be back :)
[02:03] <pyrotix> vontux: I was under the impression that mplayer played those tracks, I want to reencode
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> wont you lose data?
[02:03] <danny500> I need 6.10 anyways, need to use ntfs-3g
[02:03] <danny500> nope
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> ahh
[02:03] <danny500> I put all data on www.mediamax.com just incase
[02:03] <vontux> pyrotix: I believe that you can play and dump into the different format
[02:04] <Thass> hitmanWilly:  I didnt find any
[02:04] <vontux> pyrotix: I read about it while researching how to capture c-span video stream with mplayer
[02:04] <chemicalvamp> BUT i would try to fix grub first cuz it wouldnt take as long
[02:04] <hitmanWilly> Thass, try a search on the ubuntu wiki, might be something there
[02:04] <vontux> I would research "mplayer + format conversion"
[02:04] <pyrotix> k, ty
[02:04] <hitmanWilly> !wiki | thass
[02:04] <ubotu> thass: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[02:05] <hitmanWilly> Thass, do a search on there for via help
[02:05] <danny500> yes but I need 6.10 anyways
[02:05] <hitmanWilly> Thass, or just via
[02:05] <chemicalvamp> ohh ok
[02:06] <vontux> does anyone know how I can get apt-get to download all of the dependencies for a package using the "-d" option even if my computer already has some of them met?
[02:06] <danny500> wanna hear something funny, this will make you laugh for a good while, it's about Windows and Linux
[02:06] <vontux> ok
[02:06] <danny500> I'll pastebin it
[02:06] <danny500> !pastebin
[02:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:08] <Thass> I got this viafb.modes file that has all the right information atleast
[02:08] <hitmanWilly> vontux, maybe the -f option in conjunction with -d?
[02:08] <vontux> hitmanWilly: I will man it to see, thx
[02:08] <chemicalvamp> Thass have you followed the !ati tutorial?
[02:09] <Thass> chemicalvamp: nope
[02:09] <chemicalvamp> !ati
[02:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:09] <dwidmann> Hmm, does anyone else have trouble getting K3b (1.0) to use normalize-audio?
[02:09] <chemicalvamp> go there, select via and read
[02:09] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, didn't know they had via instructions there as well
[02:10] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, but then my knowledge of via chipsets is that they exist, and that's about it
[02:10] <danny500> ok, check pastebin
[02:10] <hitmanWilly> danny500, what url?
[02:11] <hitmanWilly> danny500, you do realize that pastebin puts the post on a new url, right?
[02:11] <danny500> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16032/
[02:12] <danny500> yeah
[02:12] <hitmanWilly> danny500, sorry, didn't know, check pastebin is kinda vague
[02:13] <danny500> ?
[02:13] <danny500> oh ok nm
[02:13] <hitmanWilly> danny500, you would be surprised how many people don't know that
[02:14] <IdleOne> my repos read archive.ubuntu.com do I need to change them to kubuntu?
[02:14] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, kubuntu uses the ubuntu repos
[02:14] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, so, no
[02:14] <IdleOne> thank you  hitmanWilly
[02:14] <IdleOne> wasnt sure if they had seperate repos or not
[02:15] <vontux> when you "-d" a file in apt-get, where does it get saved to?
[02:15] <danny500> thats because Ubuntu is the original and Kubuntu was built off of Ubuntu, same as edubuntu blah blah blah
[02:15] <IdleOne> btw is there a #kubuntu+1 for feisty support?
[02:15] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, all kubuntu is is regular ubuntu with kde installed bydefault rather than gnome
[02:15] <chemicalvamp> #ubuntu+1
[02:15] <IdleOne> ok
[02:15] <IdleOne> new to kubuntu. feel like a noob here lol
[02:16] <danny500> if you have ubuntu you can switch to kubuntu right away by installing the kubuntu desktop environment
[02:16] <danny500> it's ok
[02:16] <vontux> when you "-d" a file in apt-get, where does it get saved to?
[02:16] <hitmanWilly> danny500, or vice versa
[02:16] <danny500> yep
[02:16] <Thass> !ati
[02:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:16] <danny500> just use the synaptic installed to do what you want
[02:16] <Thass> Well I cant find a via howTo in there
[02:16] <hitmanWilly> vontux, probably /etc/apt somewhere
[02:16] <vontux> thx
[02:16] <IdleOne> danny500: yeah been running ubuntu for a couple years now just never tried running kde because it is ( or I thought ) heavier then gnome
[02:17] <reydelsillon> what is the kubuntu linux amule or win emule?
[02:17] <danny500> yeah
[02:17] <hitmanWilly> reydelsillon, amule
[02:17] <danny500> as long as it does what you need it to do it's all good
[02:17] <danny500> if it does what you want it to how you want it to then just leave it lol
[02:17] <reydelsillon> cant find it with the adept package manager.
[02:18] <danny500> reydelsillon: use synaptic
[02:18] <hitmanWilly> reydelsillon, or apt
[02:18] <danny500> turn on all repos in the repo settings
[02:18] <IdleOne> !repos > reydelsillon    (reydelsillon, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:19] <IdleOne> !botsnack
[02:19] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:19] <Gh0st75> evening folks
[02:19] <IdleOne> evening Gh0st75
[02:19] <hitmanWilly> yo Gh0st75
[02:19] <Gh0st75> how's everyone doin tonight?
[02:20] <danny500> to change your repo setting open terminal an use this,
[02:20] <danny500> gksu /usr/bin/software-properties
[02:20] <danny500> 6.10 is done burning :D:D:D:D:D
[02:20] <hitmanWilly> ?
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> danny500, why not just edit sources.list?
[02:21] <vontux> does anyone know of a program that keeps a log of what new files have been added to your system each session?
[02:21] <danny500> cause gksu /usr/bin/software-properties is easier
[02:21] <danny500> and faster
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> k
[02:21] <danny500> lol
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> that works too
[02:21] <danny500> ok gotta go for a lil bit need to install 6.10 :d
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> former slack user here
[02:21] <danny500> brb
[02:21] <danny500> me?
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> no, me
[02:21] <danny500> oh ok lol
[02:21] <danny500> brb
[02:22] <IdleOne> hmm I get an error when doing gksu /usr/bin/software-properties
[02:22] <Gh0st75> i have feisty on two systems now, seems to work pretty well
[02:23] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, which is?
[02:23] <IdleOne> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[02:23] <IdleOne>   Major opcode:  144
[02:23] <IdleOne>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:23] <IdleOne>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:23] <IdleOne> Failed to open device
[02:23] <Gh0st75> no wireless on the laptop yet but i've seen mention of some ndiswrapper settings to check
[02:23] <IdleOne> sorry for the paste
[02:23] <BluesKaj> hitmanWilly, can some running breezy , upgrade directly to feisty ?
[02:23] <BluesKaj> someone
[02:23] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: thats the error
[02:23] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, does it open up?
[02:23] <IdleOne> nope
[02:23] <soulrider> !software
[02:23] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[02:24] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, maybe, but its not reccomended
[02:24] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: probably wont work and break your system
[02:24] <BluesKaj> there's a guy over at ubuntu+1 asking about it
[02:25] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, i guess in theory, if you updated sources manually, but definately NOT a good idea
[02:25] <BluesKaj> ok thx hitmanWilly , i'llpass it on
[02:26] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, ok, run this in terminal: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:28] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, once the file comes up,remove any # symbols you find in front of every line that starts with a deb
[02:28] <soulrider> !scanner
[02:28] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[02:29] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: I wasnt trying to edit sources.list I saw the command and saw the mention of it being easier then say doing sudo nano /etc/ept/sources.list so I trtied it
[02:29] <IdleOne> apt
[02:29] <hitmanWilly> ok, got it
[02:29] <IdleOne> but still wondering why I got that error
[02:29] <IdleOne> hehe
[02:29] <pyrotix> !ffmpeg
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <kubuntu22> quick question...When I installed kubuntu 6.04 I had to install ndiswrapper with special drivers for my WUSB54Gs wireless adapter.  I'm doing the feisty upgrade now..will I have to do it again?
[02:30] <soulrider> does anyon ehere have a scanner? kooca could tell that i ahd one, but the main widnow said i needed SANE for it to work
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, you'll get that error pretty much every time you run an X program from the CLI, all it means is that it can't load the wacom tablet drivers from xorg.conf, but the app should still work fine
[02:31] <IdleOne> kubuntu22: do upgrade from 6.04 to 6.10 to 7.04 to make sure nothing breaks and about ndiswrapper Im not sure but assuming you might have to reinstall
[02:31] <super_rad> do optical usb mice work in kubuntu 6.10? if i boot up with mine plugged in it doesnt work and none of the other usb things work
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> super_rad, mine worked fine on edgy
[02:32] <kubuntu22> IdleOne: I'm already halfway through the Distro upgrade to 7.04!
[02:32] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: ok good to know
[02:32] <IdleOne> kubuntu22: keep going then
[02:32] <kubuntu22> IdleOne: :O
[02:32] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, did you upgrade to 6.10 first?
[02:32] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: yea
[02:32] <IdleOne> your good then
[02:33] <kubuntu22> cool :)
[02:33] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, ok, whew
[02:33] <hitmanWilly> that could have been bad
[02:33] <super_rad> hm weird i might have to post on ubuntuforums about it then
[02:33] <kubuntu22> wow...glad I did then heh...why so bad?
[02:33] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, dapper and feisty are different enough that a straight upgrade can break things
[02:34] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: ahh, I see..to be honest I think my initial install was edgy...I've never used dapper
[02:34] <kubuntu22> so I'm jus tgoing from 6.10 to 7.04
[02:34] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, it's like shifting straight from 1st to 4th in your car
[02:34] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: that makes sense haha
[02:35] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: sometimes its like 5th to 1st
[02:35] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, that's windows :)
[02:35] <kubuntu22> I'm pretty sure the transmission would explode on that one
[02:35] <IdleOne> lol yeah true
[02:35] <Jisao> If I have a feisty fawn beta build 2007-04-08, will I have to upgrade to have it 'released version', or do I just keep updating and it will be OK?
[02:35] <hitmanWilly> or drive to park
[02:36] <IdleOne> Jisao: updates
[02:36] <Jisao> ok, tx
[02:36] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, you may have to reinstall ndiswrapper though
[02:36] <pyrotix> !biab
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about biab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <Jisao> works well so far, except for serendipidity, which doesn't install properly.
[02:37] <pyrotix> serenity = greatest movie of all time
[02:37] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: will I need a new version of ndiswrapper, or will my old one suffice
[02:37] <Gh0st75> any other intel macbook users here? I was wondering how to enable wireless on it. most searches seem to mention using ndiswrapper but i'm not sure of the syntax or if the files are even on the cd/os
[02:37] <Gh0st75> using feisty
[02:37] <SubOne> I have had at least 5 packages just randomly disappear from my system. I know they were installed, but they just suddenly disappeared. How is this possible amd what is a possible fix?
[02:37] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, did you get it from a third party site?
[02:38] <IdleOne> SubOne: what packages?
[02:38] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, i can't remember if that ones in the repos or not
[02:38] <SubOne> IdleOne: kdebase-dev, kprinter, "firefox java", um....
[02:39] <hitmanWilly> !ndiswrapper
[02:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:39] <hitmanWilly> !find ndiswrapper
[02:39] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: I got ndiswrapper from the ubuntu forums
[02:39] <SubOne> IdleOne: few others cant remember at the molment
[02:39] <ubotu> Found: ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-utils-1.1, ndiswrapper-utils-1.8, ndiswrapper-source (and 8 others)
[02:39] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, ok, forget everything i just said, you're good to go
[02:39] <SubOne> IdleOne: kdebase-dev disappeared twice so far
[02:39] <IdleOne> well that is weird
[02:40] <SubOne> yeah, i know, its starting to piss me off
[02:40] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: ok cool, I'll let you know how it goes, at 60% in the distro upgrade
[02:40] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, anything out of the ubuntu repos SHOULD upgrade itself
[02:40] <IdleOne> you upgrade to feisty or something?
[02:40] <SubOne> any ideas?
[02:40] <SubOne> no
[02:40] <SubOne> not with my permission anyway
[02:40] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, yeah, takes awhile
[02:40] <IdleOne> only idea is to report a bug about it
[02:41] <familia> all speak english?
[02:41] <IdleOne> SubOne: do lsb_release -a what version does it give you
[02:41] <IdleOne> !it
[02:41] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:41] <SubOne> edgy
[02:41] <hitmanWilly> familia, yes this is the english speaking channel
[02:42] <familia> ok thanks
[02:42] <IdleOne> why does adept want to upgrade gnome update manager? oh because I have gnome installed also
[02:42] <familia> im mexican
[02:42] <hitmanWilly> !es | familia
[02:42] <ubotu> familia: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:42] <IdleOne> intonces
[02:43] <IdleOne> adept is purty :)
[02:43] <IdleOne> hehe
[02:43] <hitmanWilly> familia, or stay here if you want :)
[02:43] <kubuntu22> I agree!
[02:43] <SubOne> great now i forget where the firefox java package is
[02:43] <IdleOne> !java
[02:43] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:43] <kubuntu22> !glx
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <hitmanWilly> !ati | kubuntu22
[02:44] <ubotu> kubuntu22: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <kubuntu22> !nvidia
[02:44] <SubOne> so no ideas on disappearing packages?
[02:44] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, the bot is kind of dumb on that one, that tutorial works for both
[02:44] <IdleOne> SubOne: first time I hear about something like that
[02:44] <Ace2016> How do i edit the partition table? qtparted won't do it for me, i need something command line i gues
[02:45] <Ace2016> guess*
[02:45] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: heh..thanks
[02:45] <SubOne> IdleOne: been happening since yesterday
[02:45] <IdleOne> try reporting a bug but see if you cant reproduce what it is that is being done when the packages disappear
[02:45] <SubOne> IdleOne: it seems to be random
[02:46] <IdleOne> nothing is random in linux
[02:46] <familia> thank you
[02:47] <IdleOne> accept for that dice game that supposedly gives random dice numbers
[02:47] <j_rippel> Hey guys, quick question. I have Windows and Ubuntu installed on two different partitions with a 3rd data partition. I want to reinstall both windows and Kubuntu on their respective partitions, but which should I do first?
[02:47] <IdleOne> dont know the name
[02:47] <IdleOne> windows first
[02:47] <robotpoke> hello
[02:47] <Jisao> Windows, j_rippel
[02:48] <j_rippel> Thanks IdleOne, Jisao!
[02:48] <Gh0st75> windows second will screw up grub, so leave lnux til after
[02:48] <robotpoke> i have a kubuntu box set up to serve webpages.
[02:48] <IdleOne> then ubuntu will install grub to the mbr and handle the boot sequence, windows breaks it
[02:48] <robotpoke> on my local nat
[02:48] <robotpoke> i can get to the webpages with the local nat address but not from outside my local network.
[02:49] <robotpoke> i've reset my vonage router to the default settings
[02:49] <robotpoke> and i still have the same problem
[02:49] <IdleOne> robotpoke: have you forwarded the ports ?
[02:49] <robotpoke> yep
[02:49] <robotpoke> actually, i set up the kubuntu box to be in teh "DMZ"; my best guess is that my ISP may have changed something.
[02:50] <robotpoke> oh yes, i can also ssh into the kubuntu box with no problem
[02:50] <IdleOne> google vonage port forwarding might be something your missing. ISP might be blocking so forward 80 to 8080 or something like that
[02:50] <Marthy> robotpoke: ssh from inside or outside your network?
[02:51] <robotpoke> both ssh'ing inside and outside of my network work.
[02:51] <robotpoke> IdleOne: i'm going to try that now
[02:51] <chemicalvamp> danny500 got it yet?
[02:51] <stephane_> cppl
[02:52] <IdleOne> ssh and web use diff ports isp might not block ssh because they assume your a windows user and why would you know about ssh
[02:52] <robotpoke> that's what i fear; that they decided to block port 80 now that it has seen a little bit of traffic lately
[02:52] <IdleOne> well just move it
[02:53] <luckyone> any wireless experts in here?
[02:53] <chemicalvamp> im no expert but..
[02:53] <chemicalvamp> whats wrong?
[02:53] <luckyone> I am following this how to, to no avail...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1409752#post1409752
[02:53] <IdleOne> robotpoke: the traffic your site is getting isnt enough to hurt the isp but they sell that service so they cant let you have it free
[02:54] <robotpoke> IdleOne: i can move it to another site if necessary but i'd like to know for sure first that it is my ISP.
[02:54] <chemicalvamp> luckyone yeah dont work for me either
[02:54] <chemicalvamp> actually it did load
[02:54] <luckyone> chemicalvamp: how did you get it to work?
[02:54] <IdleOne> robotpoke: try forwarding 80 to 8080 first see if it works then gimme the url and I'll see if it loads up
[02:55] <chemicalvamp> whats your problem? the website or your hardware
[02:55] <luckyone> the hardware...
[02:55] <luckyone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1409752
[02:56] <ender> hm...I have some beryl/emerald issue
[02:56] <Shootfaster> ender - whats the problem
[02:56] <raylu> namely...i have no window decorations at al
[02:56] <raylu> *all (I'm ender)
[02:57] <chemicalvamp> luckyone well heres the how-to, hope it helps http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16036/
[02:57] <Shootfaster> raylu - try opening beryl in a termin
[02:57] <IdleOne> ok just added a Dock application panel and it gave me a panel on the right side of screen but how do I remove it now?
[02:57] <Shootfaster> raylu - quit beryl first, then open it in a terminal and tell me the output
[02:58] <IdleOne> nm
[02:58] <IdleOne> got it
[02:58] <raylu> beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[02:58] <Shootfaster> ah, good old GLXFBConfig
[02:58] <Shootfaster> i assume your running nvidia?
[02:58] <raylu> beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x32001d4 to texture
[02:58] <raylu> Yes
[02:59] <Shootfaster> try sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[02:59] <Shootfaster> then press ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:02] <luckyone> chemicalvamp: thanks for that, I could read the howto, it was just following it that didn't work
[03:02] <robotpoke> hotdamn, that was it IdleOne
[03:02] <robotpoke> good thinking
[03:02] <chemicalvamp> luckyone >.< sorry i thought you meant that the link was broken or something
[03:02] <robotpoke> i'm able to get to the site fine using port 8889 from a remote computer
[03:03] <IdleOne> robotpoke: glad I could help
[03:03] <luckyone> chemicalvamp: sadly, no... I wish that was the problem... I can't get my dang wireless card to associate
[03:05] <chemicalvamp> luckyone on feisty
[03:05] <chemicalvamp> ?
[03:07] <luckyone> chemicalvamp: yes
[03:07] <chemicalvamp> im having the same problem
[03:08] <chemicalvamp> you like how lspci in edgy doesnt know what kinda card you have.. BUT feisty does.. and it only works on edgy?
[03:08] <Shootfaster> i get that too :P
[03:09] <chemicalvamp> many many people do
[03:11] <chemicalvamp> luckyone your lucky to have a wired connection
[03:11] <chemicalvamp> i have to boot a live cd to get online
[03:12] <chemicalvamp> and chrooted (and much much more) to update while in live cd to update, which didnt work
[03:15] <Ace2016> hi all
[03:15] <Ace2016> any command i can run to see all mounted partitions and their mount points?
[03:16] <chemicalvamp> fdisk -l
[03:16] <chemicalvamp> thats an L
[03:17] <Ace2016> that doesn't shot the mount points
[03:18] <Ace2016> show*
[03:18] <IdleOne> ok think Im ready to remove gnome. how do I do that?
[03:18] <IdleOne> do i want to do that?
[03:19] <Ace2016> gnome installs a lot of stuff
[03:21] <Ace2016> DON'T TRY THIS,, but just wondering, would removing libgnome-2.0 cause the whole of gnome to be removed???
[03:24] <Shootfaster> Ace2016 - try it in synaptic, just see what it wants to remove then DONT COMMIT!
[03:25] <chemicalvamp> whats the command to change permissions?
[03:27] <chemicalvamp> of a certain folder
[03:29] <Ace2016> Shootfaster: i tried, it didn't want to remove anything else, it only removed libgnome-2.0, the only reason i had it installed was to cover all the deps for compiling qtcurve-gtk2, thought it might need libgnome2-dev or something
[03:29] <Ace2016> chemicalvamp: chmod
[03:30] <chemicalvamp> too late, i sudo mv one of my folders
[03:31] <pyrotix> !pastebin
[03:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:32] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:32] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, then sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:33] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, anything installed manually will keep all its dependencies
[03:34] <chemicalvamp> how do you sudo mv a folder?
[03:35] <Shootfaster> sudo mv /folder/to/move /location/for/folder
[03:35] <chemicalvamp> i tried that
[03:35] <IdleOne> After unpacking 4796kB disk space will be freed. was hoping to free more space
[03:35] <Shootfaster> what does it say?
[03:35] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, wait till you do the autoremove
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> mv: cannot stat `/home/ubuntu/desktop/driver': No such file or directory
[03:36] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: that is after doing autoremove ubuntu-desktop was already removed
[03:36] <Shootfaster> is there a folder called /home/ubuntu/desktop/driver?
[03:37] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, try sudo apt-cache clean
[03:37] <chemicalvamp> Shootfaster case sensitive is it?
[03:38] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, try sudo apt-get clean
[03:38] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, the second one i said:)
[03:38] <Shootfaster> definitely case sensitive
[03:38] <IdleOne> will try soon as autoremove is done
[03:38] <Shootfaster> press tab to complete it for you
[03:39] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, that cleans out the locally stored deb pkgs apt downloaded
[03:41] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: apt-get clean just returns a prompt
[03:41] <IdleOne> got to go. good night
[03:41] <IdleOne> thank you  hitmanWilly
[03:41] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, no error msg means it worked
[03:41] <dsmith_> clean, does what?
[03:42] <dsmith_> I use autoremove
[03:42] <kellen> hello
[03:42] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_, clean removes the actual debs that apt downloads
[03:42] <dsmith_> kellen: hello
[03:43] <dsmith_> ahhh ok
[03:43] <dsmith_> i cannot install beryl for some reason
[03:43] <dsmith_> wont download
[03:43] <kellen> I have a problem
[03:43] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_, what version?
[03:43] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_, of ubu
[03:44] <dsmith_> edgy
[03:44] <dsmith_> repos not picking it up, after I update the source
[03:44] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_, you're not trying to get it using apt are you?
[03:44] <kellen> Everytime I install all upgrades in 7.04 my card reader in my laptop quits working
[03:44] <dsmith_> yes, why
[03:44] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_, feisty is the only one with beryl in the repos
[03:44] <dsmith_> ack
[03:44] <dsmith_>  no wonder
[03:45] <dsmith_> out dated websites!
[03:45] <hitmanWilly> :)
[03:45] <dsmith_> i thought I was losing my mind, haha
[03:46] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_, if you really want to, go to beryl.org and get it from there
[03:46] <dsmith_> i am :)
[03:47] <chemicalvamp> any usefull commands anyone here knows? before i try this again?
[03:47] <chemicalvamp> im trying to fix my wireless driver
[03:47] <mcingan> What is it doing>
[03:47] <mcingan> ?
[03:47] <chemicalvamp> i hae to boot my feisty install before i can figure tht out
[03:49] <kellen> does anybody have an idea of which package could be screwing up my card reader?
[03:50] <naught101> anyone know of a GUI PHP beautifier/tidy app, or script?
[03:52] <kellen> ok, guess not
[03:53] <naught101> kellen: try installing upgrades on at a time?
[03:53] <naught101> one
[03:53] <mcingan> Oh yeah I came in here because I had a question
[03:53] <Shootfaster> kellen, what brand of card reader?
[03:53] <Shootfaster> USB or PCI
[03:54] <hitmanWilly> ok, heres a question...
[03:54] <mcingan> anyone know how I can update my bios? I tried the win 98 boot disk way but it told me the the program can not be ran in dos
[03:55] <hitmanWilly> does anyone know of a good email client (gui) that uses the standard unix mail system?
[03:55] <hitmanWilly> hitmanWilly, and preferably one that i don't have to hand confgiure sendmail for :)
[03:56] <kellen> it is a ricoh
[03:56] <kellen> built into a Lenovo N100 laptop
[03:57] <kellen> I just found a couple posts on the ubuntu forums of people with the same problem
[03:57] <kellen> it appears there's no fix as of yet
[03:57] <kellen> somebody suggested that it's a result of upgrading the kernel
[04:02] <Shootfaster> kellen - ok, that sucks :(
[04:02] <Shootfaster> if its any consolation, my card reader doesnt work either :P
[04:06] <polly1> Hello
[04:07] <Shootfaster> hello
[04:07] <polly1> I'm on my uncles computer and the thing is crawling at a snails pace (internet connection that is) any idea what could be causing it to be so slow?
[04:07] <polly1> It is a cable modem connection.
[04:07] <Shootfaster> what version of ubnutu
[04:07] <polly1> 6.10
[04:08] <Shootfaster> click ctrl esc and see what processes are running
[04:09] <TheDebugger> polly1: I had a similar problem before, it was that ubuntu used the wireless connection from the neighbours instead of my own wired connection :P
[04:09] <Shootfaster> :P
[04:09] <polly1> Could someone have hacked into this computer?  Is there a  /etc/rc.firewall  by default?
[04:09] <Shootfaster> yes its possible, but unlikely
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> polly1, not on my system
[04:10] <polly1> It is not a wireless network.
[04:10] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Ok.  Thank you.
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> polly1, then again, feisty
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> polly1, *i use
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> polly1, so your results may vary
[04:12] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Ok
[04:12] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Thank you.
[04:12] <polly1> The connection was working fine about a week ago when I installed the software.
[04:13] <polly1> Someone might have gotten in...
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> polly1, maybe...
[04:13] <polly1> I just installed the firewall and set it up and things are working.
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> polly1, any strange looking proc's?
[04:14] <polly1> hitmanWilly: How could I tell?  I am on ubuntu I usually use kde.
[04:14] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Is there a terminal command?
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> polly1, like an ftp server or p2p client?
[04:15] <timothy> hey, in kig, how do I find the coordinates of a point?
[04:15] <timothy> or is there a better geometrical program I should be using?
[04:15] <polly1> How do I bring up the list of running proccesses?
[04:15] <polly1> From terminal mode again?
[04:15] <timothy> polly1: top
[04:15] <timothy> at the terminal yes
[04:16] <polly1> Does it keep a list of connections in any log files?
[04:17] <polly1> After I installed guarddog it was setting up and said: Unable to start guarddog firewall - /etc/rc.firewall does not exist
[04:17] <polly1> No one else has a rc.firewall though right?
[04:17] <timothy> I kinda just walked in, so I can't answer that without knowing: connections to what, and ect
[04:17] <timothy> I don
[04:17] <timothy> 't have a firewall :{
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> polly1, /var/log/auth.log is where authentication info is stored, check there first for anything weird looking
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> polly1, ie a LOT of failed attempts followed immediately by root access
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> polly1, or something similar
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> polly1, system logs are all stored at /var/log/
[04:25] <polly1> Is there a log of connections from outside?
[04:25] <polly1> Or login attempts? or was that the first one you suggested?
[04:26] <polly1> Apr 11 14:17:01 family-desktop CRON[7055] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[04:26] <polly1> Is there a uid=0 by default?
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> polly1, single digit uid's are all system proc's
[04:27] <polly1> Ok
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> polly1, iirc
[04:28] <ubuntu> yay
[04:28] <chemicalvamp> it didnt work!
[04:29] <flaccid> chemicalvamp: count to 12432 and try again
[04:29] <flaccid> :p
[04:29] <polly1> Apr 14 10:43:45 family-desktop su[1596] : Successful su for family by root
[04:29] <chemicalvamp> anybody know how to install a rt8180 based wireless card in feisty?
[04:29] <peepsalot> i installed kubuntu on top of ubunut/gnome and now I cannot get audio to work
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, in hex
[04:30] <polly1> Is that someone suing on the system?
[04:30] <chemicalvamp> sure wheres the how-to
[04:30] <peepsalot> i have a volume control, but it says no devices exist
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> polly1, if someones su's it'll show up as just that
[04:30] <flaccid> polly1: looks like it
[04:30] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Someone must have been in this box.
[04:31] <polly1> hitmanWilly: My uncle would have no idea what a SU would be.
[04:31] <chemicalvamp> hitmanWilly where is the how-to
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, how-to for...?
[04:32] <chemicalvamp> micalvamp, in hex
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, that was just a joke in reference to the "count to 12432" comment
[04:33] <chemicalvamp> ohh
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> and it fell flat it seems
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> polly1, is ssh enabled?
[04:34] <polly1> hitmanWilly: I have no idea.
[04:34] <flaccid> netstat -an
[04:34] <flaccid> oops
[04:34] <polly1> hitmanWilly: I'm just a little over 30 days into using linux myself.
[04:34] <flaccid> netstat -an | grep 22
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> polly1, if you suspect an attack, first thing to do is lock down that and telnet
[04:34] <flaccid> see if its listening
[04:35] <flaccid> telnet?
[04:35] <flaccid> first thing to do is change password for family and root users!
[04:35] <polly1> hitmanWilly: I'm going to wipe the system clean in the moring and install feisty fresh.
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, well, that goes without saying
[04:36] <polly1> hitmanWilly: And make sure I set things up a little better.  Make sure my uncle uses a harder password.
[04:36] <chemicalvamp> man who do you gotta {insert verb here} to get my bug fixed
[04:36] <flaccid> polly1: ok i guess thats your choice then.. just use secure/sensible/longish passwords and you'll be cool.
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> polly1, remind him drowssap is NOT an acceptible password :)
[04:36] <flaccid> chemicalvamp: link me to the bug pls
[04:37] <polly1> hitmanWilly: A combination with numbers and letters at the very least.
[04:37] <chemicalvamp> flaccid its hardware related, in feisty
[04:38] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Is there a way to see if this thing is spitting out packets to anywhere?
[04:38] <polly1> Also is there a command to see what names/passwords can log in?
[04:38] <flaccid> chemicalvamp: link me to the bug pls
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> polly1, yes, but i forget the cmd off the top of my head...hold on
[04:39] <chemicalvamp> am'
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> polly1, netstat will show you most of that stuff
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> polly1, at least the open ports
[04:40] <chemicalvamp> how do you get to you submission on launchpad?
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> brb
[04:40] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Are unix 2,3,5 normal things to show up?
[04:41] <polly1> hitmanWilly: I have a ton of Active UNIX domain sockets (w/o servers)
[04:41] <flaccid> chemicalvamp: search i guess
[04:41] <flaccid> [12:34]  <flaccid> netstat -an | grep 22
[04:41] <flaccid> netstat -a | grep -i tcp | grep -i listen
[04:42] <flaccid> is another one
[04:42] <flaccid> netstat -an | grep -i tcp | grep -i listen | grep 22
[04:42] <flaccid> examples ^^
[04:43] <polly1> BRB
[04:43] <flaccid> and /etc/init.d/ssh stop to stop sshd
[04:44] <peepsalot> can anyone help me troubleshoot my sound?
[04:45] <peepsalot> i cannot get any audio.  i used to work.  not sure what happened
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> back
[04:46] <frank227a> Hello
[04:46] <chemicalvamp> flaccid i cant find it, but i can remember it pretty much.. lshw says -network is UNCLAIMED, lspci displays the correct information about it, ifconfig does not display wlan0, wlassistant says: no devices found
[04:46] <Cosmo_> gDesklets is stuck on loading up and I can't seem to close it, any ideas on how toclose it?
[04:48] <chemicalvamp> flaccid i used nsiwrapper to install the correct windows driver, and it still says all that
[04:50] <ferger> hello
[04:50] <flaccid> chemicalvamp: can't see how long to fix the bug without a bug on launchpad
[04:51] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, I'm baaack...=P
[04:51] <ferger> can you play the same games on gnome on kde?
[04:52] <scrubb2000> ferger, kde and gnome should be able to run all the same applications...even each other's.
[04:52] <chemicalvamp> flaccid i submitted it, i just cant find it
[04:52] <flaccid> chemicalvamp: ok. when you find it, you can check the progress :)
[04:54] <Psiuyo__> What's the best way to connect to a pptp vpn with kubuntu?  I saw network-manager-pptp but that wants a bunch of gnome packages, there must be a better way....
[04:55] <chemicalvamp> it would be nice if launchpad had a "my bugs" area
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, any luck?
[04:58] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, no.  And there's more weirdness.
[04:58] <scrubb2000> Firestarter doesn't seem to be installed.
[04:58] <scrubb2000> And dpkg says dhclient isn't installed, so it can't reconfigure...
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, install it! dhclient i mean
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, use apt to do it anyway
[05:00] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, how do I do that with no internet connection?  Should it be on the DVD?
[05:00] <Cosmo_> what does katapault do?
[05:00] <jtt> i have a multi speed 3d940 Network card  it loads the  skge driver. i know the  PCI address. Can anyone tell me how to determine what speed was negotiated with my linksys router
[05:00] <jtt> 3d=3c
[05:02] <ksnipaz2> I was wondering if anyone knew of any program that could download mms streams?
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, ok, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, dhclient isn't its own package, sorry
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, my mistake
[05:04] <chemicalvamp> flaccid, i found my bug report
[05:05] <scrubb2000> ah ha
[05:05] <peepsalot> i can't find settings for these crazy KDE sounds on minimize/maximize, etc.
[05:06] <flaccid> !pptp
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, is there a tool I can use to check that linux really is using my network adaptor?  Since I can't ping out to anything, I can't tell if it's working or not.
[05:06] <flaccid> !vpn
[05:06] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, ifconfig, which shows both of them up
[05:07] <flaccid> Psiuyo__: ^^ pptpd
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, just not connecting to anything
[05:07] <flaccid> scrubb2000: whats the problem exactly?
[05:07] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, I can't seem to grab an IP from my router.
[05:08] <flaccid> what is the name of your ethernet device?
[05:08] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, but it works fine in XP.
[05:08] <flaccid> scrubb2000 ?
[05:08] <scrubb2000> flaccid, ehh, eth0 and eth1.  THey're nvidia gigabit lan controllers on an nforce 680i SLI board.
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, it's a marvell yukon chipset
[05:09] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, is it for sure?
[05:09] <scrubb2000> I only remember seeing that somewhere...I couldn't find it written in the manual.
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, what is the exact name of your mobo?
[05:10] <scrubb2000> Asus P5N32-E SLI
[05:10] <flaccid> scrubb2000: so which one is connected to the LAN that needs the dhcp addresses?
[05:11] <scrubb2000> flaccid, I don't really care...but I have the cable plugged into eth0.  Linux sees it, and ifconfig shows it as being "up" but dhclient can't get an IP from my router.
[05:11] <flaccid> ok
[05:11] <scrubb2000> I wonder if there are any known incompatibilities with linux and my netgear router.
[05:11] <flaccid> so can you please pastebin the output of sudo dhclient eth0
[05:12] <flaccid> best to find out why first..
[05:12] <flaccid> and there are no incompatibilities. both should follow the dhc protocol
[05:12] <scrubb2000> !pastebin
[05:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:12] <scrubb2000> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16053/
[05:13] <scrubb2000> flaccid, this is for dhclient with no args.
[05:13] <flaccid> i dont' want that
[05:13] <flaccid> also pastebine the output of ifconfig -a
[05:13] <scrubb2000> Well too bad cause I have to reboot to do it again. =P
[05:13] <scrubb2000> I have that one too...
[05:13] <flaccid> why do you need to reboot
[05:14] <flaccid> wtf
[05:14] <scrubb2000> Dual-boot...I'm in XP right now.
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, he's on dual boot
[05:14] <flaccid> right
[05:14] <flaccid> well i need it
[05:14] <flaccid> to confirm stuff
[05:14] <flaccid> i would also recommend removing *network*manager*.deb
[05:15] <scrubb2000> flaccid, here's ifconfig -a: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16054/
[05:15] <flaccid> because networkmanager is shite and it was always not working - putting the iface up but not running dhcp
[05:15] <flaccid> and status of networkmanager?
[05:15] <scrubb2000> I don't have that right now.
[05:16] <flaccid> ah well
[05:16] <scrubb2000> sorry
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, if its a default install, its probably on there
[05:16] <dsmith__> how large is fiesty to download?
[05:16] <flaccid> well just fyi networkmanager was doing no dhcp for me
[05:16] <flaccid> on both edgy and dapper
[05:16] <scrubb2000> hmm
[05:16] <flaccid> and feisty
[05:16] <flaccid> so i removed
[05:17] <flaccid> i see no need for networkmanager
[05:17] <scrubb2000> flaccid, is dhclient part of network manager?
[05:17] <flaccid> i don't knwo what its point is
[05:17] <flaccid> scrubb2000: no its not
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, no its seperate
[05:17] <flaccid> !networkmanager
[05:17] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[05:17] <flaccid> !find networkmanager
[05:17] <ubotu> Found: knetworkmanager
[05:17] <flaccid> !info networkmanager
[05:17] <ubotu> Package networkmanager does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:17] <scrubb2000> I was running dhclient from konsole...that's what the first pastebin was from.
[05:17] <flaccid> !info network-manager
[05:17] <cblack0>  can someone point me to some docs/wiki/whatever on using adept to do a simple update of only already installed progs? or just info on adept and what all these checkboxes and buttons mean?
[05:17] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 222 kB, installed size 540 kB
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> !network-manager
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> dang
[05:18] <cblack0> I am trying to UPDATE only ALREADY INSTALLED packages (not install anything new)
[05:18] <flaccid> its optional but it seems to not be for some reason probably because of knetworkmanager
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> cblack0, in konsole sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:19] <flaccid> scrubb2000: need this additional information plus removal of networkmanager plus pastebin of /etc/network/interfaces... otherwise i can't troubleshoot further.
[05:19] <cblack0> doesn't upgrade actually upgrade (move to new version?) working on understanding difference between update and upgrade
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> cblack0, that will update everything that's currently installed
[05:19] <cblack0> also, I want to learn adept
[05:19] <flaccid> !adept > cblack0
[05:19] <flaccid> !repos > cblack0
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> cblack0, kdesu adept_updater
[05:19] <flaccid> update gets list of updates. upgrade does the updates.
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> cblack0, that will open the adept version
[05:20] <scrubb2000> flaccid, OK.  Gimme a few minutes to get that stuff.
[05:20] <flaccid> thanks
[05:20] <scrubb2000> Oh, but first I have a question...how do I browse / in konqueror?
[05:20] <cblack0> ok, so adept is the full package manager, and adept_updater limits to just updates... sounds good
[05:20] <cblack0> flaccid: thanks
[05:20] <flaccid> scrubb2000: file manager profile from menu
[05:21] <flaccid> cblack0: pretty much :)
[05:22] <cblack0> !adept
[05:22] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:22] <scrubb2000> Anything else I should log or try while I'm in there?
[05:22] <mikess> frostwire
[05:23] <flaccid> scrubb2000: you could set it on a static ip address to confirm that its not another issue - that the network works when given the right addresses
[05:23] <cblack0> I'm new to apt but a longtime linux user (coming from slackware,redhat,suse). any great apt resources I should be looking at?
[05:23] <cblack0> seems easier to get answers in here than ubuntu, that channel is busy as hell
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !apt
[05:23] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> apt is rather complex in ways. :) but the basics are easy to get down.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> that apt-get howto is worth reading and the official apt docs as well.
[05:24] <cblack0> I'm on it. thanks
[05:24] <scrubb2000> flaccid, what's the command to do that?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> then theres a LOT of apt- related commands that do all sorts of neat things as well.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> !info apt-file
[05:24] <ubotu> apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> cblack0, coming from those other distros, you're going to love it, trust me :)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> thats one of my faves :)
[05:25] <cblack0> hitmanWilly: seems like it
[05:25] <flaccid> scrubb2000: its not a command. you edit /etc/network/interfaces to use static instead of dhcp
[05:25] <cblack0> we are thinking of moving our devel workstations to ubuntu...
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> cblack0, rpm's gave me all sorts of dependency problems all the time
[05:25] <scrubb2000> flaccid, then use ifconfig to restart eth0?
[05:25] <kalorin_> anyone else think kritta sucks
[05:26] <Dr_willis> I dont think thers a package management system that dosent have some problems. :) be it rpm based or others...
[05:26] <kalorin_> I've seen the thing crash opening a .jpg file tonight like 5 times
[05:26] <flaccid> im on a ubuntu workstation at work atm.
[05:26] <cblack0> I need to find a way to prevent a small list of packages from being updated when users run update. I don't know if I need to run a full mirror of a repo or I can just have a policy somewhere that says "java, ant and junit can only be updated to the versions specified here"
[05:26] <flaccid> well kubuntu
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> true enough
[05:26] <cblack0> I think that /might/ be "apt pinning"
[05:27] <Dr_willis> cblack0,  i think that sounds right. ive never used it.. just seen it mentioned in the apt docs befor
[05:27] <scrubb2000> alright, I'll be back in a little while.
[05:28] <mikess> Where the hell is feisty??
[05:28] <mikess> cmon ladies
[05:28] <mikess> hehe
[05:28] <Dr_willis> when its done. :)
[05:29] <DaSkreech> !feisty > mikess
[05:29] <Dr_willis> im using it now however. heh
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> mikess, in beta
[05:29] <mikess> I have both installed  and running well
[05:29] <DaSkreech> or the 19th whichever comes first
[05:29] <mikess> Installed ubuntu 1st then sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[05:30] <mikess> going well with updates
[05:30] <Dr_willis> kubuntu-desktop  is proberly wath you want to install.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> I tend to install both ubuntu+kubuntu desktops as well
[05:30] <mikess> I like both 50/50
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> honestly, i can't stand gnome
[05:30] <Dr_willis> thers some gnome apps/tools i perfer to the kde equilivents
[05:31] <mikess> i must be the only one in the world that likes both
[05:31] <mikess> i=I
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> well, yes to that, but gnome itself just annoys me for some reason
[05:31] <DaSkreech> mikess: yeah that must be true
[05:31] <bill_> real quick: wha's the command to install mp3 support for amaroK
[05:31] <flaccid> i keep gnome handy, but dont' use it
[05:31] <cblack0> !mp3
[05:31] <bill_> wait, I'll answer my own question
[05:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:31] <bill_> !mp3
[05:31] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > bill_
[05:32] <slestak> how do I uninstall the older kernel and module packages in kubuntu?  I have about 7 in grub now...
[05:32] <cblack0> see, I'm catching on to this ubuntu stuff already :)
[05:32] <bill_> lol, so am I
[05:32] <cblack0> only been installed an hour or so but I'm looking forward to getting into it
[05:32] <Dr_willis> slestak,  you could just edit the grub menu to only show the latest 2 or so :)
[05:32] <bill_> well, I just reinstalled
[05:32] <bill_> so I forgot how to do the mp3 enable
[05:32] <cblack0> sadly, I don't think we'll ever run it on our servers. Not until ISVs start supporting it and/or there is a much bigger QA dept or something
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> i like to keep a couple as backups, just in case :)
[05:33] <slestak> Dr_willis: i thought abt that, but do I still have the 30-40M for each release's packages installed.  The kernel modules packages are quite large
[05:33] <Dr_willis> slestak,  they are? never noticed.
[05:34] <slestak> Dr_willis: i dl them over a slow link, so yes, they are large :)
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, yeah, they are big, but it is a generic kernel
[05:35] <slestak> id like to keep maybe the last two kernel packages, but dont need the cruft of kernels im never gonna boot again
[05:35] <DaSkreech> cblack0: there is corporate support
[05:35] <cblack0> DaSkreech: corporate support != easily installable agents available for enterprise backup (for example)
[05:36] <DaSkreech> !backup
[05:36] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:36] <cblack0> not to mention they don't have much of a record for QA yet. We shall see.
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> slestak, you can pull them off with apt, linux-image-<kernel version>-<release version>-generic
[05:36] <cblack0> DaSkreech: there is no way we are having a separate backup for ubuntu systems that doesn't also integrate our windows servers, offsite rotation, and oracle
[05:37] <nu-> Anyone know how to change my irc password?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> !password
[05:37] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[05:37] <cblack0> I respect ubuntu and like it, but I've been using linux in companies for awhile, and ubuntu isn't ready.
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Oh wait
[05:37] <nu-> ...
[05:37] <DaSkreech> !register
[05:37] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:37] <nu-> thank you
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> slestak i.e. sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic
[05:37] <cblack0> here is a good example, our SAN vendor isn't even THINKING about adding ubuntu to their compatibility matrix
[05:37] <kalorin_> cblack0: I agree but only because things like oracle say they wouldn't support it
[05:37] <kalorin_> same deal with debian
[05:37] <cblack0> exactly
[05:37] <kalorin_> I personally think it's pefectly ready
[05:38] <kalorin_> but you can't convince someone that it is until someone like oracle says they'll support it
[05:38] <cblack0> technically MAYBE, but all the other stuff isn't ready
[05:38] <kalorin_> what we do, is we just make an /etc/redhat-release file and pop it out there
[05:38] <kalorin_> and poof, we're running redhat for support purposes
[05:38] <cblack0> I also haven't seen a lot of SAN/multipath install info
[05:38] <flaccid> cblack0: what in particular is not ready
[05:39] <kalorin_> cblack0: the real thing that these companies should be saying they support is Version X of the kernel, and VERSION Z of the glibc stuff or whatever
[05:39] <kalorin_> other than that, nothing really matters  which package manager you use or what it's called
[05:39] <cblack0> flaccid: not sure yet, but I don't have as much faith in ubuntu's testing on stuff like FC SANs and multipath for instance.
[05:39] <kalorin_> it's all stupid to even argue about, I like my saturn you drive a jeep, mines better, no mine is
[05:39] <kalorin_> who cars
[05:39] <kalorin_> who cares
[05:39] <bill_> ok
[05:39] <cblack0> kalorin_: agreed. I would REALLY like to see LSB really be used/supported, but it isn't :(
[05:39] <bill_> here is a BIG question
[05:39] <flaccid> so there is no reason basically considering it uses packages from debian upstream
[05:40] <kalorin_> what's a FC SAN's?
[05:40] <bill_> I am installing the mp3 support
[05:40] <cblack0> fibre channel
[05:40] <kalorin_> our san at work just had an RPM I had to install
[05:40] <bill_> I have universe and multiverse ON
[05:40] <flaccid> its gnu linux... so um yeah
[05:40] <bill_> and it tells me there are unmet dependencies
[05:40] <bill_> it tell me to use "apt-get -f install"
[05:40] <bill_> however, last time I did that, it wiped my system
[05:40] <kalorin_> an that was a total pain in the ass because it required this exact version of the kernel 2.6.12-14 not -13 mind you, -14
[05:40] <kalorin_> it was a pain
[05:40] <cblack0> multipath is when the system has more than one path to the san and the kernel somehow needs to know that when it sees things twice, they aren't really two devices/LUNs
[05:40] <kalorin_> otherwise it was just a kernel module
[05:40] <kalorin_> cblack0: that's all kernel level stuff
[05:41] <kalorin_> doesn't matter what distribution
[05:41] <flaccid> exactly
[05:41] <cblack0> kalorin_: most enterprise distros HEAVILY test and modify that stuff it seems
[05:41] <flaccid> considering ubuntu uses recent kernels, i'm sure it meats the reqs.
[05:41] <kalorin_> either the kernel does it or it doesn't, doesn't matter if the kernel came from a rpm or a debian package on install
[05:41] <flaccid> cblack0: if you want something more stable, use debian
[05:41] <scrubb2000> flaccid, here's my interfaces file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16061/
[05:41] <kalorin_> meEts them too :)
[05:41] <scrubb2000> flaccid, dpkg says network-manager is not installed.
[05:42] <cblack0> look, I'm not saying I'm sure ubuntu isn't ready, I am just saying I don't have the faith in it yet. And that part is moot anyway as until our enterprise backup software installs and is supported we are unlikely to use it
[05:42] <kalorin_> I'm running kubuntu on my new desktop at work
[05:42] <flaccid> scrubb2000: dpkg -l | grep -i manager | grep -i network <-- anything?
[05:42] <kalorin_> we have Redhat EL 3, EL 4, and debian sarge boxes at work
[05:42] <cblack0> yep, we are likely to go to ubuntu for developers workstations
[05:42] <kalorin_> that we use HEAVILY
[05:42] <kalorin_> running a multibillion $ student loan stuff on it
[05:43] <flaccid> cblack0: thats fine, because i don't have faith in it as a server either.
[05:43] <kalorin_> oracle, informatica, cognos
[05:43] <kalorin_> ou name it
[05:43] <scrubb2000> flaccid, I typed dpkg -r network-manager
[05:43] <scrubb2000> and it said not installed.
[05:43] <scrubb2000> Didn't show up in adept either.
[05:43] <kalorin_> all linux of various distributions, they're now pushing to go to centos
[05:43] <flaccid> scrubb2000: ok np
[05:43] <DaSkreech> bill_: What has unmet dependices?
[05:43] <kalorin_> flaccid, I haven't tried a server install yet, but next iteration of my server here at home will get ubuntu without a doubt
[05:44] <kalorin_> it's running debian sarge right now
[05:44] <kalorin_> which is basically the same thing considering it doesn't run X
[05:44] <flaccid> yep
[05:44] <flaccid> i set up a debian server next to me here at work
[05:44] <flaccid> just for printing and wireless node of the network
[05:45] <flaccid> debian is more stable than ubuntu thats for sure
[05:45] <bill_> ok, I just ran the command it it fixed it
[05:45] <bill_> just last time I did, it removed all of my packages
[05:45] <flaccid> scrubb2000: do you want me to show you how to do static ip?
[05:45] <scrubb2000> flaccid, sure.
[05:45] <kalorin_> flaccid
[05:46] <kalorin_> how can you say that?
[05:46] <flaccid> ok
[05:46] <kalorin_> kernel 2.6.whatever is the same on either
[05:46] <kalorin_> libs are the same
[05:46] <kalorin_> hell they use the same packages
[05:46] <flaccid> um no
[05:46] <flaccid> its older and dif packages
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> kalorin_, ubuntu comes off the sid branch
[05:46] <flaccid> a lot of packages from debian upstream are changed for ubuntu which is why they become ubuntu packages
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> kalorin_, not the stable one
[05:47] <wolferine> anyone use Smarty with PHP ?
[05:47] <kalorin_> the only thing with this kubuntu box that I've noticed that's unstable is the way that it supports the ATI drivers under X
[05:47] <flaccid> wolferine: i prefer TBS :0
[05:47] <kalorin_> interesting, I didn't realize it was different at all
[05:47] <wolferine> let me look that up
[05:47] <cblack0> what is the QA team like for ubuntu? is there a paid testing team that checks all the changes/updates to debian upstream packages before they get added to the repo for the stable version?
[05:47] <martalli> kalorin_: Although the issue is really more of how ATI supports linux :=(
[05:47] <kalorin_> stability for me I've only noticed as an issue honestly when looking at software running on it that shouldn't like yahoo messenger and krita
[05:48] <cblack0> kalorin_: yeah, it is an ATI problem more than anything else
[05:48] <wolferine> flaccid, but have you used Smarty before?
[05:48] <cblack0> I have some odd hiccups on my dual-head ati machine at work
[05:48] <kalorin_> it seems to work fine if you fiddle iwth it long enough
[05:48] <flaccid> wolferine: only briefly long time ago, i can't really help
[05:48] <kalorin_> not sure what I did to make it work, but multihead on an x700 with a vga port and a DVI port and putting two screens side by side is a pain
[05:48] <wolferine> wasnt looking for help, just opinions
[05:49] <kalorin_> when X starts I have to go in nad tell it every time to strech the desktop and use xset to set DPMS settings
[05:49] <kalorin_> other than that it's solid
[05:49] <flaccid> kalorin_: also the defaults for userland etc. are dif on debian. the runtime config is vastly different
[05:49] <cblack0> I used the ati-provided setup tool with some args and got something that sticks. I have some odd flickers sometimes tho
[05:49] <scrubb2000> flaccid, I need to go soon...
[05:49] <flaccid> scrubb2000: and i need a million dollars. give me 1 min
[05:49] <scrubb2000> lol
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> brb
[05:50] <flaccid> static ip for eth0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16062/
[05:50] <DaSkreech> !torrent
[05:50] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:51] <scrubb2000> flaccid, ok thanks.  I'm going to go try it.
[05:51] <cedross> hello there
[05:51] <flaccid> ok
[05:52] <cedross> can someone answer a question for me
[05:52] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[05:52] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:52] <flaccid> !ask
[05:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:53] <cedross> how do I change the default program to open a certain type of file
[05:53] <flaccid> cedross: goto konqueror -> configure konq -> file associations
[05:53] <flaccid> in the settings menu
[05:54] <nonuda> how do i fix my dual boot, winblodze can't boot but kubuntu boots fine...
[05:54] <DaSkreech> !default
[05:54] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[05:54] <cedross> I tried to change the default .torrent program from Ktorrent to Azureus but it didn't  work it still opens with Ktorrnet
[05:55] <cedross> That is where I tried to make the change
[05:55] <flaccid> what program are you opening the file from?
[05:56] <DaSkreech> I'm betting firefox
[05:56] <flaccid> why does the firefox download manager open not work? hasn't worked on like dapper, edgy and feisty for me
[05:56] <flaccid> quite ghey
[05:57] <cedross> yes - firefox
[05:57] <flaccid> nothing happens when i click open or open folder
[05:57] <flaccid> how does firefox use associations, coz i don't know how to set them myself..
[05:57] <Shootfast> i get that too
[05:57] <flaccid> its quite annoying and unacceptable!
[05:57] <cedross> I guess I could just go to the site with Konqueror
[05:58] <nonuda> !grub
[05:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:58] <cblack0> !java
[05:58] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:58] <bobstro> erm... after i told it to use ktorrent, it did.
[05:59] <bobstro> in firefox, tell it to use Other... and navigate to it.
[06:00] <bobstro> isn't that working for you guys?
[06:00] <flaccid> where is this in firefox
[06:00] <bobstro> when you click something to download, it asks you what app to open it in, right?
[06:00] <bobstro> (e.g. click on a torrent)
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16063/
[06:01] <bobstro> flaccid: i just re-tested. it's pretty straightforward.
[06:01] <flaccid> not in firefox. nothing happens for me
[06:01] <bobstro> erm. something's broken in firefox then.
[06:01] <bobstro> you don't get anything?
[06:01] <flaccid> but why do you have to set any associations
[06:02] <bobstro> you don't. it uses a default, but you may want to change it.
[06:02] <flaccid> how can you get it to use the system instead or act with a prompt like opera does
[06:02] <bobstro> out of the box, it all works fine.
[06:02] <bobstro> it normally does. yours sounds broken.
[06:02] <flaccid> no it doesnt
[06:02] <flaccid> like i said it didn't for me on 3 releases of ubuntu
[06:02] <flaccid> a lot of peoples is broken
[06:02] <flaccid> download actions in firefox has no add button or default
[06:02] <bobstro> no problems here since firefox pre-1.0.
[06:03] <flaccid> and that doesn't fix the open folder either
[06:03] <nu-> where do i change themes in kubuntu?
[06:03] <bobstro> does it open anything at all?
[06:03] <flaccid> bobstro: the rest of the world does not use your installation..
[06:03] <bill_> ok, how do I convert rpm to deb?
[06:03] <flaccid> no it doesnt
[06:03] <bobstro> flaccid: nor yours, my friend.
[06:03] <cedross> I got it thanks for the help
[06:03] <cblack0> bill_: alien maybe? idunno how well it works
[06:03] <flaccid> then saying yours works its pointless...
[06:03] <bobstro> flaccid: i'll be happy to try to help if you quit acting like i'm the one f'ed up. mine works.
[06:03] <flaccid> yes but several other users have this same problem
[06:04] <flaccid> bobstro: im not acting like anything
[06:04] <bobstro> flaccid: so quit arguing with me and allow me to help. otherwise, i truly don't give a shit.
[06:04] <bobstro> flaccid: ok, have fun.
[06:04] <flaccid> forget about it, you can't fix it so no point in talking about it
[06:04] <bill_> !alien
[06:04] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:04] <flaccid> fuck off bobstro
[06:04] <bobstro> flaccid: yup, i'm just imagining that mine works.
[06:04] <cblack0> wow, what did I miss? :)
[06:04] <bobstro> flaccid: that it opens ktorrent or whatever.
[06:04] <bobstro> flaccid: so fuck you too.
[06:05] <flaccid> bobstro: i'll leave you to help all the people in need
[06:05] <flaccid> cya
[06:05] <flaccid> bye all!
[06:05] <bobstro> tscheuss
[06:05] <nu-> where do i change themes in kubuntu?
[06:05] <pollyo> Hello
[06:05] <pollyo> I'm going to install 7.04 beta on my uncles computer in the morning.
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> pollyo, did you ever figure out what was up?
[06:06] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: I think someone got in.
[06:06] <nu-> pollyo: just wait 3 days till final releave comes out =] 
[06:06] <pollyo> nu-: The latest beta is just about the final package.
[06:07] <nu-> minus all the 500 updates
[06:07] <cblack0> I just installed beta tonight, heh
[06:07] <pollyo> nu-: I believe it is going to autoupdate automatically anyway.
[06:07] <nu-> it does
[06:07] <nu-> but takes a while =[
[06:07] <flaccid> for anyone interested: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/43238 and there are similar ones as well. work needs to be done to fix firefox/use kfmclient exec
[06:07] <pollyo> nu-: It will be alot easier then upgrading from 6.10 anyway.  In addition it needs to be done ASAP
[06:07] <bill_> how do I compile a tar.gz?
[06:08] <nu-> pollyo: okies
[06:08] <bill_> yes, I know that there are files inside of it and that it is just like a zip file
[06:08] <nu-> id like to know where to change themes in KDE
[06:08] <bill_> but that doesnt answer my question
[06:08] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: His login password...was the same as the machine name.
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> pollyo, PEBKAC
[06:08] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: PEBKAC?
[06:08] <cblack0> bill_: usually: tar zxvf file.tar.gz; cd newlyMadeDir; ./configure; make; sudo make install
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> pollyo, problem exists between keyboard and chair
[06:09] <TonyTone17> Kubuntu 6.10 live cd freezes while starting up and I can't get it booted. Can anyone help me?
[06:09] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: LOL
[06:09] <Shootfast> bill, untar the file to a folder
[06:10] <pollyo> If only I could figure out how to get his printer working,,,, Lexmark X6170 (#@#$@ Lexmark!)
[06:10] <bill_> k
[06:10] <nu-> where do i change themes in kubuntu?
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> bill_, extract it somewhere, run ./configure, make, then make install is the usual way
[06:10] <Shootfast> exactly
[06:10] <pollyo> Anyone know an alternative driver that might work with a lexmark X6170? (USB connected)
[06:10] <TonyTone17> ide: failed opcode unknown
[06:10] <Shootfast> bill - have you got it now?
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> bill_, sometimes make install has to be run with sudo
[06:11] <bill_> think so
[06:11] <cblack0> bill_: usually: tar zxvf file.tar.gz; cd newlyMadeDir; ./configure; make; sudo make install
[06:11] <bill_> quick question...I've seen people put && in their commands
[06:11] <cblack0> semicolons are separate commands
[06:11] <bill_> is that for multiple commands in a row?
[06:11] <cblack0> bill_: that is so the second command only happens if the first one succeeds
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> bill_, it just strings commands together
[06:11] <cblack0> bill_: if you just want them all to happen w/o checking for success you can use semicolons
[06:11] <cblack0> easier to type :)
[06:12] <tinyx> How do I get the processes list?
[06:12] <cblack0> bill_: or if you want to see what you are doing or do ls or whatever between, just hit enter each time
[06:12] <cblack0> tinyx: ps aux
[06:13] <jtt> does anyone know how i can force my 1G ethernet card to 1000FDX
[06:13] <jtt> mii-tool only appears to go to  100FDX
[06:13] <tinyx> how do I end the processes?
[06:13] <tinyx> or a process
[06:13] <tinyx> I need to end Firefox, its being gay
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> tinyx, killall firefox
[06:13] <Admiral_Chicago> tinyx: sudo killall firefox-bin
[06:14] <Admiral_Chicago> and please don't use words like gay in a derogatory sense
[06:14] <cblack0> my ifconfig goes to 11
[06:14] <nu-> christ where is the theme manager in kubuntu?
[06:14] <cblack0> Admiral_Chicago: agreed about the gay thing btw
[06:14] <tinyx> thanks guys, it worked great.
[06:14] <tinyx> +10
[06:15] <bobstro> nu-:
[06:15] <bobstro> nu-: i found it in kcontrol
[06:15] <bill_> grr
[06:15] <bill_> ok, so this tarball doesnt even have the source
[06:15] <bill_> its an install script
[06:15] <bill_> and I guess flash 9 doesn't work with opera
[06:15] <bill_> for linux anyways
[06:15] <Dr_willis> hmm.. i thought it used to work for me.
[06:16] <nu-> bobstro: where is that?
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> bill_, you won't find source for flash
[06:16] <bobstro> nu-: but very limited. otherwise, just change options under look & feel in control center.
[06:16] <bobstro> nu-: Kmenu->Run command->kcontrol
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> bill_, its extremely proprietary
[06:16] <bobstro> nu-: there's a story behind KDE & themes, but i don't recall the details. i thought they'd come back but apparently not.
[06:17] <nu-> bobstro: what do you mean comeback? they dont allow themes anymore/
[06:17] <bobstro> nu-: the "themes" option seems to have disappeared in system settings... some time ago. it's still in kcontrol.
[06:18] <cblack0> later all
[06:18] <nu-> bobstro: alright let me try and find
[06:18] <cblack0> thanks for the help
[06:18] <bobstro> nu-: but you'll probably be happer with the various look & feel options in system settings anyhow. there's probably some grand reason for it.
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> bobstro, for as long as kcontrol is included :)
[06:18] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, did flaccid leave?
[06:19] <nu-> bobstro: im a fan of milk themes. i just downloaded some that i'd like to see
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, what's up?
[06:19] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: is kcontrol not standard anymore either?
[06:19] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, forcing static IP didn't work either.
[06:19] <bill_> I wish I could get it to work on opera though
[06:20] <scrubb2000> This is why I keep giving up on linux.  There's always something critical that doesn't work.
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> bobstro, well, with the way they're hiding it, it appears to be headed that way
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, what did it do, anything?
[06:21] <bobstro> nu-: you may need to install kcontrol (it is a separate package) so look & feel is probably for the best.
[06:21] <scrubb2000> Nope.
[06:21] <scrubb2000> Ping still says "network unreachable"
[06:22] <Shinigami> Greets! Anyone here have some experience in setting up a Creative Zen Vision:M?  I'm trying to use Amarok (MTP ver).
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, can you boot into the livecd and see if it works on that?
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, if you have one, that is
[06:23] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly,  I'll try that...I have a liveDVD that I used to install.
[06:23] <scrubb2000> But I don't have any more time to futz with it tonight.
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, if it does work, make a note of how it's set up, and try to config your settings to match
[06:24] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, will do.  Later.
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> later
[06:25] <neurovore> Hello, everybody...this is my first time on Konversation, so do not mind me. I am quite new to Kubuntu Linux, so I do not know how everthing works yet.
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, welcome aboard
[06:26] <neurovore> This is a bit of an embarrasing question...but...
[06:26] <Shinigami> Hi neurovore
[06:26] <Minataku> neurovore: Ask away. That's what we're all here for.
[06:26] <bobstro> neurovore: don't sweat it.
[06:27] <Minataku> Yeah, the *buntu community is far more forgiving
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> we all have to start somewhere
[06:27] <neurovore> I am trying to download stuff using adept manager, but half of the files that I am after give me a BREAK message and it will not let me.
[06:27] <Minataku> I mean, we'll still tell you off, but that's only if you're EXTREMELY lazy
[06:27] <Minataku> neurovore: That doesn't sound embarrasing to me... sounds like an interesting issue you're having
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, have you updated recently?
[06:28] <neurovore> To feisty fox?
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, do you see a little exclamation point thing on the right hand side of the panel?
[06:29] <neurovore> Hold on...
[06:29] <nonuda_> guys, i have dual boot kubuntu and xp, both works fine before, but sudenlly now xp won't boot!, when i tried to boot xp, grub show me only "starting up" and a blinking cursor, it seems grub can't find xp kernel or anything to need xp boot..
[06:29] <neurovore> No.
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, open up konsole
[06:30] <neurovore> Done.
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, type in : sudo apt-get update
[06:31] <neurovore> There.
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, now sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, this is updating your system
[06:32] <kalorin_> heh dual boot
[06:32] <kalorin_> why?
[06:32] <neurovore> Hold on a moment...Konsole gave me an error message...
[06:32] <neurovore> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                                                           able)
[06:32] <neurovore> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                                           ess using it?
[06:32] <kalorin_> anyone used xen?
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, close adept
[06:33] <kalorin_> very seriously considering xen
[06:33] <neurovore> Now it works
[06:33] <kaner_> is there anyway to keep konqueror from prompting for the password while connecting to an SFTP resources after the SSH key has already been setup.
[06:33] <kalorin_> rather than vmware
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, adept locks out the package management system
[06:34] <kalorin_> adept is a graphical apt-get front end, which in turn is a CLI front end for dpkg
[06:34] <kalorin_> any of those will lock it
[06:34] <kalorin_> if you try to do more than 1 at a time
[06:34] <dsmith__> I dont dual boot
[06:34] <dsmith__> I backup windows and run it in a vmware session
[06:34] <neurovore> Okay...I typed in sudo apt-get upgrade and got this...
[06:34] <neurovore> Reading package lists... Done
[06:34] <neurovore> Building dependency tree
[06:34] <neurovore> Reading state information... Done
[06:34] <neurovore> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:34] <kalorin_> dsmith I do too
[06:34] <bill_> whats the name of the package for JRE? is it just JRE?
[06:34] <kalorin_> but I've been reading that this xen deal is smokin
[06:35] <kalorin_> glibjava or soemthing such
[06:35] <dsmith__> xen, hmmm. I dont know
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> neurowave, ok, your system is up to date
[06:35] <kalorin_> just search for java in adept
[06:35] <kalorin_> dsmith, they're claiming like 95% performance for host OS's
[06:35] <dsmith__> JRE 1.5 i think, something like that
[06:35] <dsmith__> hmmmm'
[06:35] <kalorin_> yeah
[06:35] <kalorin_> that's what I said
[06:35] <kalorin_> hmmm
[06:35] <dsmith__> lol
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, what in adept is giving you break messages?
[06:36] <neurovore> Firefox for one thing...
[06:36] <kalorin_> actually i said, um... wow!
[06:36] <kalorin_> and I might have said... great googly mooglys!
[06:37] <dsmith__> i am on the website for xen
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> neurovore: ok, run this: sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:37] <dsmith__> kalorin I am on 3xen
[06:38] <kalorin_> 3xen/
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, when/if it comes back with an error, post it in pastebin
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> !paste | neurovore
[06:38] <ubotu> neurovore: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:38] <Cosmo_> someone gave me a command earlier but I forgot to write it down for installing the .deb file for my brother FAX1840c printer drives
[06:39] <dsmith__> no alternate room
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> Cosmo_, dpkg -i?
[06:39] <Cosmo_> hitmanWilly: thats the one
[06:39] <kalorin_> Paravirtualization Provides Near-Native Performance
[06:39] <kalorin_> Xens paravirtualization technology is widely acknowledged as the fastest and most secure virtualization software in the industry. Xen offers near-native performance for virtual servers with up to 10 times less overhead than proprietary offerings, and benchmarked overhead of well under 5% in most cases compared to 35% or higher overhead rates for other virtualization technologie
[06:39] <kalorin_> that's what I foudn exciting
[06:39] <dsmith__> kalorin got #3xen
[06:39] <dsmith__> *goto
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> Cosmo_, sudo dpkg -i <nameOfPackage>.deb
[06:40] <dsmith__> !offtopic
[06:40] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:40] <vit_> hola
[06:40] <neurovore> Okay...here is what I got...
[06:40] <neurovore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16064/
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:42] <Shinigami> night all *wave*
[06:43] <vit_> perrassssssssssssss
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, did that return anything?
[06:44] <neurovore> No.
[06:45] <neurovore> I just got the command prompt again.
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, try sudo apt-get install libmyspell3c2
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, paste the output of that in pastebin please
[06:47] <rodrigo> hola, aguien me puede ayudar con BIND
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> !es | rodrigo
[06:48] <ubotu> rodrigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:48] <neurovore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16065/
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, this will bring up a text file in a text editor
[06:50] <Cosmo_> ok this is going to drive me nuts, my printer (brother intellifax 1840C) is not listed when I try to install a printer, and the only drivers I have been able to find are the lpr and cups drivers on the brother website but nothing I seem to do installs them
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, is it open?
[06:51] <underdog5004> how do I delete a directory that isn't empty?
[06:51] <neurovore> It opened sources.list - kate
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> ok, now go down and remove the #s in front of every line that starts with deb
[06:52] <sticksabuser> Cosmo_: so you tried to use the add printer wizard already?
[06:52] <pollyo> I'm going to reinstall my ubuntu on my uncles computer tomorrow.  If I leave room for windows to be installed will there be any problem installing windows after linux?
[06:52] <underdog5004> pollyo, you'll have to reinstall grub, since windows writes over the MBR
[06:52] <neurovore> You mean the "s" in "src"?
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, no s as in all of the # in front of the deb lines
[06:53] <Cosmo_> sticksabuser: yep, my printer is listed nowhere in the wizard and none of the .deb files seem to be ones the wizard will accept
[06:53] <pollyo> underdog5004: Ok  Does the installation give you the option of using grub?  I do not recall.
[06:53] <underdog5004> pollyo, I don't think so
[06:53] <Red_Tear> hmm
[06:53] <underdog5004> grub is the only option
[06:53] <Red_Tear> I got a problem i guess
[06:53] <kaner_> is there anyway to keep konqueror from prompting for the password while connecting to an SFTP resources after the SSH RSA key has already been setup.
[06:53] <sticksabuser> underdog5004: rm -rf "directorypath"
[06:54] <anees> hi...i want to search a folder in ubuntu...how i can do it..plz help me
[06:54] <Red_Tear> my Computer makes some unusual noise
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, once that's done, save and close
[06:54] <Red_Tear> klick
[06:54] <pollyo> underdog5004: After I install windows (when he finds his CD) will I have to do anything to reactive the linux startup?
[06:54] <underdog5004> sticksabuser, lol, thanks...I just read the man page
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, let me know when you finish
[06:55] <Red_Tear> sounds like it came from the HD to me... even if nothing is using the HD at the moment... it have stopped now... hmm
[06:55] <pollyo> underdog5004: or make it recognize that windows is also installed?
[06:55] <underdog5004> pollyo, I'm not sure  about the command...I think it's grub-reinstall
[06:55] <Red_Tear> and much things whas going slow this moment... now again
[06:55] <underdog5004> but you have to boot from a livecd to run that command. Grub will see the windows partition as well as the linux one.
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, make sure its just the lines that start with deb or deb-src
[06:55] <pollyo> underdog5004: Ok
[06:55] <Red_Tear> and it sounds like its rotating fast... but the light diode in front of my tower dont show anything accessing the HD
[06:56] <pollyo> underdog5004: Any idea if windows like a specific area on the hard drive?
[06:56] <Red_Tear> but just sometimes
[06:56] <Minataku> Red_Tear: The HDD should always be spinning when the system is on, unless it's using powersaving
[06:56] <Red_Tear> oh ok
[06:57] <Minataku> Usually that won't kick in for at least 20-60 minutes, though
[06:57] <anees> i want to search a folder in ubuntu...how i can do it...tell me the command..plz help me
[06:57] <neurovore> Is this what you mean? Before....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16066/ After...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16068/
[06:57] <Red_Tear> and what about thes clicking sound? is it gonna be broken?
[06:57] <Lynoure> anees: based on name? or something else?
[06:57] <Lynoure> anees: anyway, see   man find
[06:58] <Lynoure> anees: in some cases  locate  can also do it
[06:58] <anees> based on name
[06:58] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, no, just the lines that start with deb or deb-src, leave the rest of the # in
[06:59] <Lynoure> anees: then I'd start with   locate namehere  but that also gives you files in the path, you'll see :)
[06:59] <neurovore> Hold on...
[06:59] <Red_Tear> Minataku: and what about thes clicking sound? is it gonna be broken?
[07:01] <Minataku> Red_Tear: This ticking, is it a constant ticking whenever the drive is spinning?
[07:01] <Minataku> At a constant rate?
[07:05] <neurovore> hitmanWilly...like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16070/
[07:05] <underdog5004> sweet, I just installed jinzora, and I'm loving it!
[07:05] <kalorin_> minataku, yeah I get that too
[07:05] <kalorin_> the ticking of the drive all the time
[07:05] <kalorin_> like a little miniwrite
[07:05] <kalorin_> every 3-4 seconds
[07:05] <Minataku> kalorin_: That could be a bad sign
[07:06] <kalorin_> I can't decide if something is logging or what
[07:06] <kalorin_> I've got the smart stuff installed I guess I shoudl figure out how to make it report
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, put the ## in front of where it says "Uncomment" as well
[07:06] <Minataku> If something is accessing it, then it's normal
[07:06] <kalorin_> hell, I can never tell what all is going on anymore
[07:06] <Minataku> If it's always clicking, like, from the second it spins up, get to replacing it ASAP
[07:06] <kalorin_> oh no
[07:06] <kalorin_> only after X is started and running
[07:06] <kalorin_> it's not in swap cause I've turned swap off and it's still doing it
[07:07] <Minataku> Oh, in that case you're probably fine
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, as well as the line that starts "Major"
[07:09] <kalorin_> nice
[07:09] <kalorin_> samsung HD400LJ, 400gb SATA drive, does not support smart
[07:09] <neurovore> hitmanwilly...like this?
[07:09] <neurovore>  1
[07:09] <neurovore>  2
[07:09] <neurovore>  3
[07:09] <neurovore>  4
[07:09] <kalorin_> though for sure it would when I bought it
[07:09] <neurovore> sorry...accidentally did that.
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> :)
[07:10] <neurovore> Here is what I mean to do...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16073/
[07:11] <dsmith__> kalorin: you should put some type of restricted access on your box man
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, put the ## in front of the two places it says repository too, missed that last time
[07:12] <kalorin_> dsmith?
[07:12] <kalorin_> you mean the photo stuff?
[07:13] <dsmith__> alot of it yea
[07:13] <kalorin_> it's something I've considered
[07:13] <kalorin_> it was never meant to be eveything I've ever taken
[07:13] <dsmith__> I would if I wee you
[07:13] <kalorin_> kind of got that way though
[07:13] <neurovore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16074/
[07:13] <dsmith__> well I goto go
[07:13] <dsmith__> cya room
[07:13] <kalorin_> it'll likely go away sometime soon to be replaced with a flick
[07:13] <kalorin_> flickr account or something such
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, crap, one more, where it says "distribution"
[07:15] <neurovore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16075/
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> neurovore: ok, that got it
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, save that and exit kate
[07:16] <wolferine> what is the most effective way for looking for a single file on your system? (sudo locate file.exe)
[07:16] <neurovore> There.
[07:16] <kalorin_> wolferine: man find
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, now sudo apt-get update
[07:17] <neurovore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16076/
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, must have missed a line in sources.list, ok,i see it, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:19] <wolferine> kalorin_>thanks
[07:19] <me2win> did somebody sa my name?
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, about 20 lines down where it says "repository", ## that
[07:19] <fakepatriot> !cedega
[07:19] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:21] <neurovore> There...I added ## saved the changes and typed in sudo-apt get update...and got this...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16077/
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, that's what it should look like
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone played with Xen whom can expalin how to make an image from an iso
[07:23] <neurovore> I got the same error message as before...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16078/
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, hold on a sec...
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> !find libmyspell3c2
[07:25] <ubotu> Found: libmyspell3c2
[07:25] <neurovore> type that in Konsole?
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, no
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> im checking something
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> !info libmyspell3c2
[07:26] <ubotu> libmyspell3c2: MySpell spellchecking library. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.1-16 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 124 kB
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> !xen
[07:26] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, sudo apt-get install libmyspell3c2
[07:27] <neurovore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16079/
[07:29] <hitmanWilly> well, im at a loss here
[07:29] <neurovore> Hmmm...
[07:30] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, did you install the regular version of kubuntu?
[07:31] <neurovore> I went with 6.10 edgy eft.
[07:31] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, or are you running an unusual setup, like a mac or something?
[07:33] <neurovore> I do not think so...this is a PC that I am on....however, I get internet through my ethernet port at a university...that might have something to do with it.
[07:33] <neurovore> I am not sure if they have some sort of setup in the university server that prevents me from doing this.
[07:34] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, it feels like it can't download from one of the repositories
[07:34] <ybott> Question.  I plugged my zip drive into my comptuer.   How do I mount it and where did it go?
[07:35] <neurovore> Could my university's firewall possibly be blocking this from happening?
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, i don't see why it would
[07:35] <ybott> When I plugged it up, it asked me what I wanted to do I clicked open in new window, but nothing happened.
[07:36] <neurovore> I see...
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, but there's no real way to be sure without acess to the settings
[07:36] <ybott> hitmanWilly: Any idea?
[07:38] <fannagoganna> hi, i have a problem with CUPS configuration. I have an /etc/cups/client.conf file with proper permissions (644)
[07:38] <neurovore> Is there anything that anybody would suggest?
[07:38] <hitmanWilly> ybott, not sure what device a zip disk sits on...
[07:39] <fannagoganna> When I go to the kcontrol module as a USER and choose the cups print system, it looks only for the server (it does not appear to recognize that I have set up the computer a cups client). However, when I change the printer configuration as ROOT it does -- I can see the printers located on another cups server.
[07:40] <fannagoganna> My question: Why the different behavior when I have set up my Ubuntu 6.10 system as a cups client?
[07:40] <hitmanWilly> ybott, normally the command would be mount /dev/<deviceName> /mnt/zipdrive
[07:40] <hitmanWilly> ybott, i just don't know what <deviceNape> would be
[07:40] <ybott> hmm ok
[07:40] <ybott> i cant seem to find any documentation on it either
[07:41] <hitmanWilly> well, everyone, i really need to get some sleep, c y'all later
[07:41] <neurovore> Goodbye.
[07:41] <vinces1979> ybott: http://www.linux.com/howtos/ZIP-Drive-6.shtml
[07:42] <neurovore> On a different note...does anybody know how to format a SATA hard drive through linux?
[07:43] <kalorin_> sure
[07:43] <kalorin_> mkfs
[07:43] <fannagoganna_> sorry, never mind.
[07:43] <fannagoganna_> fixed the problem
[07:43] <kalorin_> mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sd<driverletter><partition>
[07:43] <bobstro> neurovore: you've created partitions already?
[07:43] <kalorin_> you'll likely want to fdisk it first fdisk /dev/sd<driveletter><partition>
[07:44] <neurovore> What I am trying to do...is that I have two hard drives. One of them has linux on it, and is a parallel drive. The other drive is a SATA drive with nothing on it.
[07:45] <fannagoganna_> neurovore, what do you want to do?
[07:45] <neurovore> I just want to format the SATA drive so that it shows up on the desktop and so that I can use it for storage.
[07:45] <fannagoganna_> ah, first do fdisk on that hard drive
[07:45] <kalorin_> it's likely sda
[07:45] <kalorin_> or /dev/sda rather
[07:46] <fannagoganna_> then make the file system -- something like mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1
[07:46] <kalorin_> or you could just do ti via the GUI tools
[07:46] <fannagoganna_> or mkfs.reiserfs if you want a "killer" filesystem :)
[07:46] <kalorin_> but what fun is that?
[07:46] <neurovore> Hold on...type fdisk in Konsole?
[07:46] <fannagoganna_> yup
[07:46] <kalorin_> if by killer you mena it dies and someone kills you for the data loss that is :)
[07:46] <bobstro> neurovore: cfdisk is a bit friendlier
[07:47] <kalorin_> or you can use that pull down menu dealy
[07:47] <fannagoganna_> no, i mean that Hans Reiser is looking for the real killer
[07:47] <kalorin_> system settings -> advanced -> disks and file systems
[07:48] <neurovore> Okay...I am in the disks and filesystems area.
[07:48] <kalorin_> it's pretty windowz from there
[07:49] <ybott> vinces1979: Hey thanks, that helped, got it working.
[07:49] <neurovore> I have never done this in Windows either.
[07:52] <neurovore> My computer refers to the SATA drive as "Disk ATA".
[07:54] <neurovore> Do I have to tell Linux to format it?
[07:55] <Davor> the knetworkmanager was fixed?
[07:56] <neurovore> knetworkmanager?
[07:56] <Davor> yes
[07:56] <Davor> neurovore: doesn't work for wireless conecctions
[07:56] <neurovore> Oh.
[07:57] <Davor> yes
[07:57] <Davor> :/
[07:57] <neurovore> So that is why I could not get firefox?
[07:58] <Davor> mmm
[07:58] <Davor> my knetworkmanager can't search wireless networks
[07:59] <chemicalvamp> Davor it isnt connecting automaticly?
[08:01] <Davor> chemicalvamp: nop,
[08:02] <chemicalvamp> edgy?
[08:02] <Davor> doesn't scan any network
[08:02] <Davor> 7.04 beta
[08:02] <neurovore> Goodnight...I have to go, but I will be back tomorrow.
[08:02] <chemicalvamp> so feisty then
[08:03] <chemicalvamp> type in "iwlist wlan0 scanning
[08:03] <Davor> works
[08:03] <Davor> scan my wireless networks
[08:05] <Davor> chemicalvamp: the ketworkmanager isn't work now?
[08:08] <Davor> jejej
[08:09] <chemicalvamp> wel can you at least connect with it?
[08:10] <Davor> chemicalvamp: Yes Ican.
[08:10] <Davor> manually I can...
[08:10] <Davor> but the last week my knetworkmanager works
[08:19] <bill_k> hello
[08:19] <bill_k> ping?
[08:21] <Asasin> Hello.
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> bill_k: pong.
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> can't really help your issue though
[08:21] <bill_k> gah
[08:21] <bill_k> i know
[08:22] <Asasin> I had a quick installation question about Kubuntu
[08:22] <bill_k> just you.. :( lol
[08:22] <bill_k> ;)
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> !bluetooth
[08:22] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:22] <bill_k> Admiral_Chicago: tried that first
[08:22] <bill_k> mine is weird, they pair + connect through hardware buttons
[08:22] <bill_k> on the adapter
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the best I got
[08:22] <bill_k> ok, thx
[08:23] <Asasin> Is it possible to mount the installer disc for Kubuntu on a thumbdrive or SD memory chip, then use that to format an older laptop and install Kubuntu on it?
[08:23] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found
[08:25] <bill_k> Asasin: I may be wrong, but older computers don't all support boot to usb
[08:25] <bill_k> xubuntu may be better also, don't you have a cd drive?
[08:26] <Asasin> Well it's not too old...
[08:26] <Asasin> And it supports booting to a removable drive... which granted isn't explicitly USB or memory chip
[08:26] <Asasin> The CD ROM drive is busted
[08:26] <Asasin> I was just looking for a quick fix for my computer, I was going to get one in a couple of months but I don't want to go that long without a comp you know?
[08:27] <Shootfast> Asasin: Theoretically yes, but as they said, older pcs dont boot from usb
[08:27] <osiris> some will boot from a network
[08:28] <osiris> but that may bea little more complicated than you are looking for
[08:28] <Asasin> Hm...
[08:28] <Asasin> Well it would be worth a shot. And how do you boot from a network? I have another computer I could maybe use to do it.
[08:29] <osiris> read up on (i think its called ) PXE booting
[08:29] <osiris> never done it myself
[08:30] <bill_k> can anyone point me in the right direction for bluetooth supprot?
[08:30] <bill_k> support* ?
[08:30] <Asasin> Wow that's a lot of information. Well, I'll try this out first with the memory chip and go from there I guess.
[08:31] <bill_k> oh god, pxe booting :)
[08:34] <Asasin> pxe mindoverloading -_-
[08:35] <Shootfast> Asasin: can you dock the notebook?
[08:36] <Asasin> Dock it?
[08:36] <chemicalvamp> is there a command for using apt-get to download (not install) to a certain directory?
[08:36] <Shootfast> Asasin: As in is there a dock made for your laptop that has a cd drive
[08:37] <Asasin> I don't believe so. I've an external DVD ROM burner that should function as a CD ROM device (I thought, anyway), but my laptop won't even recognize it when plugged in.
[08:43] <kraut> moin
[08:44] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found
[08:45] <jbrouhard> Okay, why won't iwconfig eth1 essid "myaccesspoint" work ?  I keep trying that command (yes, with sudo in front) but it won't keep the settings...
[08:51] <underdog5004> I'm trying to compile libtorrent 0.11.4, but when I sudo ./configure, I get: Checking for OPENSSL... configure: error: The pkg-config script could not be found or is too old. Make sure it is in your PATH or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable to the full path to pkg-config.  I have no idea...will anyone help me?
[08:59] <underdog5004> Admiral_Chicago, you around?
[09:02] <flaccid> who here has heard and/or uses KHelpCenter for doco ?
[09:02] <underdog5004> nope
[09:05] <flaccid> help:/kubuntu/
[09:05] <reydelsillon> hi. anyone know the name of a program that i can get all partitions mounted automaticaly?
[09:05] <reydelsillon> i used one under ubuntu-gnome.. but now im using K-ub
[09:06] <bill_k> how many partitions do you have?
[09:06] <underdog5004> hmm, ok, I installed pkg-config to help w/ my problem, now I'm still getting the error, but it says that I don't have openssl installed. I do. What can I do?
[09:07] <reydelsillon> bill_k: i got 3 partitions. swap, ext3 and ntfs.
[09:07] <bill_k> ok
[09:07] <reydelsillon> and a ide Hd that i cant see.
[09:08] <bill_k> !fstab | reydelsillon
[09:08] <ubotu> reydelsillon: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:08] <reydelsillon> reading :)
[09:09] <bill_k> hope it helps
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> underdog5004: sorry in bed
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> just saw it when I got up to use the restroom
[09:09] <underdog5004> Admiral_Chicago, bummer...I'm having trouble compiling...
[09:09] <underdog5004> nvm, sleep well
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[09:10] <bill_k> reydelsillon: not an official guide, but http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[09:19] <flaccid> reydelsillon: its in system settings -> advanced - disk & filesystems
[09:26] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found
[09:28] <underdog5004> yay, I figured out my problem! I had to install the -dev of libssl
[09:32] <orient2000> !partitions
[09:32] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:52] <orient2000> #kubuntu+1
[09:54] <vein> hello all
[09:55] <vein> 
[09:55] <vein> 
[09:58] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found anyone know how to fix this?
[10:01] <orient2000>  Get out of Tibet please.
[10:04] <djkoock> c' nessuno?
[10:05] <compilerwriter> Underdo2004 what have you got going on again.  I have such a flurry of people joining and parting It is four screens up for me.
[10:05] <compilerwriter> s/Underdo2004/Underdog2004
[10:06] <compilerwriter> That and I am trying to follow kubuntu-de
[10:07] <jay_> How do I identify myself? #java keeps tellin me i gotta do that first
[10:07] <wolferine> jay_, goto #help
[10:08] <wolferine> they handle those types of questions
[10:08] <posingaspopular>  /msg NickServ help works too
[10:08] <wolferine> of course :)
[10:10] <FrozenPlasma> Guten Morgen!
[10:11] <FrozenPlasma> Kann man eine (K)Ubuntu-Version einfach updaten? Diesen Monat kommt wohl noch die V.7 raus...
[10:11] <FrozenPlasma> ...ich wrde aber gerne jetzt schon Kubuntu installieren...
[10:11] <wolferine> FrozenPlasma, try #kubuntu-** Country code
[10:12] <wolferine> or #ubuntu-**
[10:12] <FrozenPlasma> #kubuntu-**
[10:12] <FrozenPlasma> ?
[10:12] <wolferine> FrozenPlasma, what country?
[10:12] <wolferine> where are you from?
[10:12] <FrozenPlasma> ah - ok
[10:12] <FrozenPlasma> sorry
[10:12] <wolferine> not a problem
[10:13] <FrozenPlasma> i'd like to know if kubuntu can be updated easily...
[10:13] <FrozenPlasma> or if i have to install every version on its own
[10:13] <wolferine> FrozenPlasma,  use the Ubuntu Guide(use google to find)
[10:13] <wolferine> its easy
[10:14] <FrozenPlasma> ok. that's all i wanted to know :)
[10:14] <wolferine> KDE should come with an update manager already
[10:14] <FrozenPlasma> Thank you!
[10:14] <wolferine> np
[10:14] <posingaspopular> wolferine: leave some of that kubuntu support for the rest of us
[10:15] <wolferine> sorry
[10:15] <wolferine> ill try and spread it out
[10:15] <wolferine> O_o
[10:15] <posingaspopular> ha i was jk
[10:16] <wolferine> i know :/
[10:18] <akrus`Away> hello
[10:19] <akrus`Away> could someone tell me if there's any software available to download a folder from HTTP with the files inside
[10:19] <akrus`Away> like this: http://tenshi.ru/anime-ost/Hanbun_no_Tsuki_ga_Noboru_Sora/
[10:20] <flaccid> akrus`Away: i believe wget can do it
[10:21] <akrus`Away> flaccid: ok, i'll try
[10:21] <flaccid> http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/html_node/Recursive-Download.html
[10:21] <akrus`Away> thanks :)
[10:22] <flaccid> np
[10:25] <compilerwriter> wolferine frozenplasma was typing in German.
[10:25] <se7en> grrrrrrrr i can't get nvidia fx5200 to work i get a black screen as soon as i change from nv driver to nvidia
[10:25] <wolferine> country code for Germany?
[10:25] <compilerwriter> By the time I realized he need an !de he had left
[10:25] <wolferine> se7en, i can help a bit
[10:25] <bill_k> need fglrx binary driver help, x won't start :(
[10:25] <se7en> i could use some help
[10:26] <compilerwriter> I am trying to follow kubuntu-de so and this channel so I was a bit slow on the uptake.
[10:26] <wolferine> se7en, you have to update to the latest nvidia drivers, its listened on the Ubuntu Guide (google it)
[10:26] <wolferine> then once you update the drivers, you want to run nvidia-xorg
[10:27] <wolferine> which is a command for setting up your xorg.conf to run the nvidia driver
[10:27] <akrus`Away> hm
[10:27] <wolferine> then, if you like
[10:27] <flaccid> se7en: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:27] <akrus`Away> it's not downloading anyway :(
[10:27] <se7en> wolferine: i tryed all the guides including automatics
[10:27] <wolferine> you can use nvidia-settings to setup the other options
[10:27] <wolferine> se7en, in ff, open the ubuntu guide, press ctrl-f (find), then type in nvidia and search for it
[10:28] <wolferine> its the second one that comes up on the page
[10:28] <wolferine> (if I remember correctly)
[10:28] <flaccid> im willing to look at pastebins of xorg.conf and
[10:28] <flaccid> Xorg.0.log for people with X problems
[10:34] <se7en> wolferine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16089/
[10:35] <wolferine> se7en, did you update the drivers?
[10:35] <se7en> yes
[10:36] <se7en> all i get is a black screen after reboot just before i can log in
[10:36] <wolferine> and ran nvidia-xconfig?
[10:37] <se7en> yes
[10:37] <wolferine> ok, open a shell
[10:37] <se7en> ok
[10:37] <wolferine> type sudo nano .bashrc
[10:38] <wolferine> let me finish, then ask questions
[10:38] <wolferine> scroll to the bottom
[10:38] <wolferine> then add this:
[10:38] <wolferine> # USER DEFINED ALIAS
[10:38] <wolferine> alias xo='sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:39] <wolferine> those two lines, exactly
[10:39] <wolferine> then press ctrl-o
[10:39] <wolferine> then enter
[10:39] <wolferine> then ctrl-x
[10:39] <wolferine> to exit
[10:39] <wolferine> done that?
[10:39] <posingaspopular> wolferine: i warned you already!
[10:39] <wolferine> warned?
[10:39] <wolferine> am I hogging the channel again?
[10:40] <wolferine> or too much spoon feeding :)
[10:40] <bill_k> wolferine: want to look at more xorg patebins?
[10:40] <wolferine> bill_k, not atm, but in a bit sure
[10:40] <flaccid> se7en: i don't see any fatal errors unfortunately. you do'nt have any wacom devices, i assume so i'd remove them first just in case its that. not this config is using the nv free driver.
[10:40] <bill_k> thanks
[10:40] <kubuntian> guys
[10:41] <kubuntian> i need some help with my connection....
[10:41] <wolferine> flaccid,  probably will as well bill_k
[10:41] <kubuntian> my friend with a macbook got the ip from the cable modem as soon as he connected the cable
[10:41] <se7en> flaccid: what is wacom device?
[10:41] <kubuntian> for me instead, when i put the cable in, and i make a dhgclient request i don't get anything
[10:42] <flaccid> !baddevice > se7en
[10:42] <wolferine> se7en, did you read what I wrote?
[10:42] <flaccid> kubuntian: pastebin output of dhclient
[10:42] <wolferine> or am I just wasting my time?
[10:42] <se7en> i am using nv again because i get a black screen
[10:42] <kubuntian> the leds on the ethernet connection blinks all the time thohg
[10:42] <se7en> yes i am at it wolferine
[10:42] <wolferine> are you done those instructions yet?
[10:42] <flaccid> se7en: well no wonder i didn't find any errors. can you paste the right log please!!
[10:43] <wolferine> hehe
[10:43] <kubuntian> can somebody guide me through the connection process to see what's wrong?
[10:43] <wolferine> se7en, am I wasting my time, cause i can help others...
[10:43] <flaccid> kubuntian: you could pastebin the output of dhclient so i can tell you your problem..
[10:43] <wolferine> ok, bill_k post it
[10:43] <wolferine> ill take a look
[10:43] <kubuntian> ok
[10:43] <bill_k> .conf http://pastebin.ca/444245 and Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.ca/444247 followed !binarydrivers guide for fglrx, on feisty (updated) and fglrx has worked in past
[10:44] <posingaspopular> wolferine: hogging it all, but it's okay i dont know the answers anyway
[10:44] <wolferine> lol
[10:44] <Dani> #ubuntu
[10:44] <wolferine> ati, sorry bill_k i probably cannot help
[10:44] <wolferine> you can try #ubuntu-effects
[10:44] <kubuntian> flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/444249
[10:44] <bill_k> ok thanks for looking
[10:44] <kubuntian> here it is
[10:45] <flaccid> kubuntian: if your cable is connected, i dont know why your dhcp server is not giving a lease offer.
[10:46] <flaccid> the problem could be with your dhcp server
[10:46] <kubuntian> yeah, the cable is connected
[10:46] <kubuntian> well, in that case my friend shouldn't get anything too
[10:46] <kubuntian> but he does
[10:46] <flaccid> he is on a dif operating system?
[10:46] <kubuntian> and receives an IP correctlu
[10:46] <kubuntian> yeah, he is on MacOSX
[10:46] <flaccid> weird
[10:47] <kubuntian> i KNOW!!
[10:47] <CarinArr> kubuntian: you sure there aren't mac address restrictions in the router?
[10:47] <kubuntian> even cause i used ethernet a lots
[10:47] <flaccid> someone else was here before with this problem, what that you?
[10:47] <kubuntian> yeah
[10:47] <kubuntian> yeah, i am sure
[10:47] <kubuntian> cause it's just an cable modem
[10:47] <flaccid> bill_k: whats the prob with your config
[10:47] <kubuntian> and it does not have firewall or restrictions
[10:48] <bill_k> x won't start after installing fglrx driver (want to peek at log and config?)
[10:48] <kubuntian> flaccid: no it wasn't me
[10:48] <flaccid> bill_k: isn't that what you provided ??
[10:48] <bill_k> yes
[10:48] <bill_k> I don't know
[10:48] <CarinArr> bill_k: what's the url? i'll have a quickie look
[10:49] <flaccid> bill_k: they look fine to me. i can't see any error in xorg log
[10:50] <bill_k> ok, thanks! .conf http://pastebin.ca/444245 and Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.ca/444247 followed !binarydrivers guide for fglrx, on feisty (updated) and fglrx has worked in past
[10:50] <flaccid> bill_k: even though the log uses radeon driver
[10:51] <CarinArr> uhm..
[10:51] <CarinArr> why are there two ati device sections?
[10:51] <flaccid> yeah might wanna remove one
[10:51] <flaccid>   Driver      "ati"
[10:51] <flaccid> that should be fglrx i assume
[10:52] <flaccid> identifiers don't match coz of it
[10:52] <CarinArr> yeah, that's what i'd think.. change driver "ati" to driver "fglrx" and remove the second section
[10:52] <flaccid> yeah the log says its using ATI
[10:52] <bill_k> ok
[10:52] <se7en> ok flaccid and wolferine here is the old log
[10:52] <flaccid> make sure you use         BusID       "PCI:3:0:0"
[10:53] <CarinArr> or add the bus id to the second device section and comment out the previous one or something
[10:53] <kubuntian> flaccid: you know what's even weirder?
[10:53] <flaccid> yep
[10:53] <kubuntian> that when i connect with a fixed IP
[10:53] <kubuntian> for example ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1
[10:53] <CarinArr> cause at the moment your server uses the second device, but only the first one is configured correctly, and it's not using the fglrx driver;)
[10:53] <flaccid> i reckon xorg should complain if there is a conflict like this but ah well it provides overloading capabilities
[10:53] <kubuntian> knemo tells me CONNECTED
[10:53] <flaccid> !info knemo
[10:53] <ubotu> knemo: network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.5-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 267 kB, installed size 1368 kB
[10:54] <flaccid> well yes
[10:54] <flaccid> connected means it has a link and IP
[10:54] <flaccid> doesn't mean it works
[10:54] <kubuntian> and the other weird thing is the following
[10:54] <kubuntian> [17184063.424000]  b44: eth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX.
[10:54] <kubuntian> oh, i see
[10:54] <kubuntian> this one was a dmesg error
[10:54] <flaccid> i don't knwo about that one
[10:54] <flaccid> but that could be the reason or it could be irrelevant
[10:54] <flaccid> you can google but
[10:54] <bill_k> CarinArr: flaccid crap, I just realized I copied the log in the gui, (after I had put back the working xorg.conf
[10:55] <bill_k> other log is different (of course)
[10:55] <CarinArr> i was thinking that, when he said there weren't any errors, but i only looked at the conf so far, not the errors;)
[10:55] <CarinArr> or lack of them
[10:55] <CarinArr> heh
[10:56] <flaccid> bill_k: if you fix up the xorg.conf with the right driver section and make sure fglrx is used as Driver and not ati then you should be right
[10:56] <flaccid> CarinArr: well if the dhcp server is not responding to you, can't really check any log
[10:56] <bill_k> so remove the first driver section? or just put a # leading each line?
[10:57] <CarinArr> o.O
[10:57] <se7en> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16093/  this is the old xorg.log
[10:57] <flaccid> bill_k: move  BusID       "PCI:3:0:0" to the second device section, then remove the first device seciton
[10:57] <CarinArr> or comment it out;)
[10:57] <kubuntian> '
[10:57] <kubuntian> ?
[10:57] <kubuntian> sorry^
[10:57] <kubuntian> ?
[10:57] <bill_k> ok
[10:58] <CarinArr> kubuntian: i was assuming flaccid was talking to you, as i wasn't talking about dhcp;)
[10:58] <flaccid> se7en: that one looks fine and uses nv
[11:00] <se7en> flaccid: as soon as change /etc/X11/xorg.conf back to nvidia i get the black screen after reboot
[11:01] <flaccid> se7en: you've said this many times
[11:01] <wolferine> se7en, you needed to update the drivers
[11:01] <wolferine> as I said, many times
[11:01] <se7en> how
[11:01] <flaccid> if you keep providing me with a working X log i can't do anything for you
[11:02] <bill_k> flaccid: got a broken x log :)
[11:02] <flaccid> cool
[11:02] <flaccid> thats more like it
[11:02] <se7en> how sould i send you a not workin x log ...?
[11:02] <bill_k> pastebin.ca/444261
[11:03] <bill_k> error is different with the new device section configuration
[11:03] <amdiak> Bonjour
[11:03] <se7en> till i changed the driver back i can't even work on the console
[11:03] <flaccid> se7en: if you are using irc on the same computer, you should copy the file in shell so its not overwritten by the working xorg when you go back in to X
[11:03] <bill_k> I think it liked the 2 sections
[11:04] <flaccid> bill_k: i don't think you edited it correctly
[11:04] <CarinArr> bill_k: can you paste your xorg.conf please?
[11:04] <flaccid> bill_k: pastebin current xorg.conf and i'll edit it correctly
[11:04] <bill_k> sure
[11:04] <bill_k> thanks :)
[11:05] <bill_k> pastebin.ca/444262
[11:05] <Hc\\> hmm
[11:06] <Hc\\> can some1 tell me how to install putty on linux?
[11:06] <Hc\\> :D
[11:06] <flaccid> why do you need putty?
[11:06] <bill_k> putty is great! on windows
[11:06] <Hc\\> or something thats near it
[11:06] <CarinArr> bill_k:         Device     "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] "
[11:06] <Hc\\> i neet
[11:06] <CarinArr> that's the problem
[11:07] <Hc\\> i need it in school
[11:07] <bill_k> that device needs to be ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350.... that's what the screen is identified by
[11:07] <bill_k> yes
[11:07] <neoj> Hc\\: konsole and ssh ?
[11:07] <Hc\\> ssh is same?
[11:07] <flaccid> bill_k: heh you have two screen sections as well
[11:07] <CarinArr> bill_k: you should use the identifier for the card, which is aticonfig-Device[0] 
[11:07] <Hc\\> im on the windows section atm
[11:07] <bill_k> I followed the guide!
[11:08] <flaccid> bill_k: take out the first one
[11:08] <bill_k> I have no idea how to.... just fix the pastebin :)
[11:08] <bill_k> ?
[11:08] <bill_k> ok completely?
[11:08] <neoj> Hc\\: open a konsole session and typ ssh username@remote_machine
[11:08] <flaccid> bloody alright
[11:08] <flaccid> if you promise to learn
[11:08] <Hc\\> ok
[11:08] <Hc\\> ty
[11:08] <Hc\\> bb
[11:08] <Hc\\> go back to kubuntu :D
[11:08] <bill_k> i will learn :)
[11:08] <neoj> Hc\\: ofc you need to change username@remove_machine :)
[11:08] <CarinArr> there looks like there's plenty missing from the second screeens section though
[11:09] <bill_k> I've been learning almost 24/7 it's 4am here
[11:09] <flaccid> it doesn't need res
[11:09] <flaccid> but i'll put it in
[11:09] <CarinArr> ;)
[11:09] <bill_k> :)
[11:09] <flaccid> CarinArr: that could be where the problem lies
[11:09] <bill_k> oh
[11:09] <bill_k> another thing
[11:09] <flaccid> my mate ran vnvidia-config yesterday and it did a similar thing
[11:09] <bill_k> I have 2 monitors now
[11:10] <CarinArr> right
[11:10] <bill_k> both 1280x1024
[11:10] <CarinArr> teaching in five minutes so need to get going
[11:10] <CarinArr> flaccid'll see you right;)
[11:11] <bill_k> what do you teach?
[11:13] <flaccid> so you do have dual display already, bill_k ?
[11:13] <bill_k> just unboxed the second monitor 10 minutes ago
[11:13] <bill_k> yup
[11:13] <bill_k> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301941 bigdesktop guide for ati
[11:14] <flaccid> right
[11:14] <flaccid> well here is single monitor config: http://pastebin.ca/444277
[11:14] <bill_k> thank you.
[11:15] <flaccid> np
[11:18] <bill_k> flaccid: better thing to type than startx?
[11:19] <wolferine> bill_k, setting up duals?
[11:19] <bill_k> yeah
[11:19] <bill_k> well, ati driver first
[11:19] <wolferine> its nice to have
[11:19] <flaccid> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:19] <bill_k> wouldn't even work w/ 1 monitor
[11:19] <wolferine> yeah, I have an ATI sitting in a box on the floor
[11:20] <wolferine> just bought a new Nvidia :)
[11:20] <flaccid> dang
[11:20] <wolferine> well, a month ago
[11:20] <bill_k> thanks
[11:20] <bill_k> well, got a kubuntu logo
[11:20] <flaccid> if only i had time for games
[11:20] <bill_k> it's mostly for screensavers and the possibility of beryl
[11:20] <bill_k> :)
[11:20] <flaccid> cool
[11:21] <se7en> ok this should be the not working xorg log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16097/
[11:22] <flaccid> se7en: that one looks fine to me too. if you are getting blank screen then maybe xorg is fine but something else is the problem - maybe acpi
[11:22] <flaccid> which driver are you trying to use with the bad one?
[11:23] <flaccid> because that log uses nv and not nvidia again..
[11:24] <se7en> i have the nvidia problem since 6 month i have tryed everthing the last one with automatics which did all the setting and still doesn't work
[11:24] <wolferine> se7en,  have the latest drivers?
[11:24] <flaccid> well we dont know what the problem is
[11:24] <wolferine> and if so, which?
[11:24] <flaccid> se7en: you have the nvidia prop. driver installed?
[11:25] <se7en> i have no idea !!!
[11:26] <flaccid> obviously
[11:26] <se7en> send me a link
[11:26] <wolferine> se7en, use the ubuntu guide to install the latest drivers
[11:26] <se7en> please
[11:26] <wolferine> google
[11:26] <flaccid> se7en: take time to do what wolferine said
[11:26] <flaccid> then come back
[11:26] <flaccid> install and use the binary driver
[11:26] <flaccid> atm the free nv driver is being used
[11:26] <se7en> i followed the ubuntu guide 3 times with the same results
[11:26] <bill_k> flaccid: looking at log now, didnt start
[11:26] <flaccid> which should work but you report its not.
[11:26] <se7en> black screen
 se7en, you needed to update the drivers
 as I said, many times
[11:27] <flaccid> se7en: you've said this many times already
[11:27] <flaccid> instead of repeating and wasting time here, go install the binary driver, se7en
[11:27] <bill_k> parse error on line 126 of section extensions in file /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:27] <wolferine> wolferine> se7en, in ff, open the ubuntu guide, press ctrl-f (find), then type in nvidia and search for it
[11:27] <flaccid> bill_k: maybe i have a typo one sec
[11:27] <wolferine> those are my previous posts
[11:27] <bill_k> unexpected EOF.  Missing EndSection keyword?
[11:27] <wolferine> seems se7en has a VERY difficult time reading
[11:27] <bill_k> that's what it said the first time I tried it
[11:29] <flaccid> it has a problem with Option      "Composite" "0"
[11:29] <flaccid> maybe the 0 shouldn't be a literal string
[11:29] <flaccid> comment out the composite line and try again
[11:30] <flaccid> so only # Option      "Composite" "0"
[11:31] <Gabz> !samba
[11:31] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:31] <VSpike> Hi.  I've got "http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145" and "http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356" in my sources list.  They should be a problem, should they?
[11:32] <Gabz> dam bot that's that what i wanted
[11:32] <wolferine> VSpike, take them out
[11:32] <flaccid> VSpike: why should they be a problem?
[11:32] <wolferine> hehe
[11:32] <VSpike> wolferine: why?
[11:32] <flaccid> if they are not working anymore or you don't want them, take em out
[11:32] <wolferine> listen to flaccid
[11:32] <flaccid> heh
[11:33] <flaccid> yeah listen to me lol
[11:33] <tmske> Hi, is there anyone who uses scribes in kubuntu?
[11:36] <bill_k> flaccid: that section was an exact copy paste from the official ubuntu instructions on fglrx setup.  "add this to the end of your xorg.conf file"
[11:36] <bill_k> and it worked on edgy
[11:36] <bill_k> http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/billyk128/17-04-07_0432.jpg
[11:37] <flaccid> bill_k: so?
[11:37] <flaccid> i can't find anything else..
[11:37] <flaccid> and thats what it says
[11:37] <flaccid> so can't hurt to try.. we might find out what the real reason is
[11:37] <bill_k> ok
[11:37] <bill_k> willdo
[11:37] <bill_k> will do*
[11:37] <flaccid> you can't see a syntax/typo error can you
[11:39] <bill_k> nope
[11:39] <bill_k> just triple checked
[11:40] <laur> Goood morning
[11:40] <laur> i have set up my laptop for dual screen, xinerama turned off
[11:40] <bill_k> bleh, it's getting light outside
[11:41] <laur> i would like to make an Impress presentation like that that it would appear on the second screen
[11:41] <bill_k> crosses fingers
[11:42] <VSpike> I have the KDE 3.5.6 packages installed... I am getting a crash from kdesktop_lock.  I was trying to expand an existing bug report I found by providing gdb and valgrind info.  I noticed in gdb there was a lot of "no debug symbols", so I wanted to install the kdebase-dbg package.  But I'm getting conflicts from aptitude
[11:42] <bill_k> doesn't look good
[11:42] <bill_k> flaccid: trying reboot
[11:42] <bill_k> lol
[11:42] <flaccid> k
[11:42] <VSpike> kdebase-dbg: Depends: libkonq4 (= 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1~edgy1) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 is installed.
[11:43] <flaccid> i find usplash interfers sometimes and you have to use tty
[11:43] <flaccid> another thing i hate about ubuntu
[11:43] <VSpike> it wants to downgrade "kdebase [4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (now) -> 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy)] " and libkonq similarly
[11:44] <Gabz> ok is there a easy way to get samba working in kubuntu ?
[11:44] <flaccid> Gabz: not really
[11:45] <Gabz> ok i'll stick to manunally editing that config file....
[11:45] <bill_k> oh how do I turn the quiet boot off
[11:45] <bill_k> so it shows me all the wonderful errors?
[11:45] <flaccid> Gabz: kontrol snap in is good, but you generally need to know what you are doing.
[11:45] <flaccid> bill_k: need to edit grub.conf i think and take out the param
[11:45] <flaccid> something like that
[11:46] <flaccid> !usplash
[11:46] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:47] <Gabz> flaccid: i had to manually edit my samba configure to change the work group i couldn't find it in the control panel thingy
[11:48] <VSpike> Gabz: swat is quite good
[11:48] <bill_k> ok
[11:48] <flaccid> ok
[11:48] <bill_k> so, still no boot :(
[11:48] <flaccid> pastebin the xorg log
[11:48] <flaccid> i wanna see why
[11:49] <posingaspopular> flaccid: don't listen to bill_k, he's just a n00b
[11:49] <bill_k> i will
[11:49] <bill_k> keyboard io not even working now :(
[11:49] <flaccid> haha
[11:49] <bill_k> well just the I part that I care about
[11:49] <posingaspopular> bill_k: do you KNOW where your keyboard is, first of all
[11:49] <flaccid> hey play nice :)
[11:49] <bill_k> ?
[11:49] <bill_k> it's on my desk
[11:50] <posingaspopular> flaccid: it's cool i already know him
[11:50] <flaccid> cool
[11:50] <bill_k> :-p
[11:52] <flaccid> w0a did i still leave in two screens
[11:53] <bill_k> ?
[11:53] <_4strO> !codecs
[11:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:54] <bill_k> i think i need to boot to recovery mode
[11:54] <bill_k> crap
[11:54] <flaccid> bill_k: i still left the 2 screens in
[11:54] <flaccid> bill_k: new xorg.conf : http://pastebin.ca/444319
[11:54] <bill_k> ok
[11:54] <bill_k> i should just let you ssh in
[11:55] <tmske> I'm trying to use scribes on kde (http://scribes.sourceforge.net) and I get an error when running it: No module named gtksourceview
[11:55] <bill_k> uh oh....
[11:55] <bill_k> red text
[11:56] <bill_k> *activiating swapfile swap...             [fail] 
[11:56] <Hc\\\> hey, can some1 tell me how to instal java plugins? :D
[11:56] <Hc\\\> sudo get-apt install ..?
[11:56] <icecruncher> !java
[11:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:56] <Gabz> tmske: the error means it wants to use a gtk package
[11:57] <tmske> Gabz, I have installed python-gtk
[11:58] <_4strO> tmske: sudo apt-get install libgtksourceview-common
[11:58] <_4strO> ???
[11:58] <Gabz> tmske: there _4strO has your answer...
[11:58] <_4strO> :)
[11:59] <_4strO> just do a little apt-cache search gtksourceview
[12:00] <bill_k> no kbd and mouse again
[12:00] <bill_k> :(
[12:00] <tmske> _4strO, Gabz, this is telling me that I have this already installed
[12:00] <pgquiles__> when will the Feisty RC be released?
[12:01] <bill_k> flaccid: it may be time for me to clean install
[12:01] <bill_k> i manage to F* it up twice a month anyways
[12:01] <icecruncher> when I log in i get the following message "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly", this being probably something along with the desktop because I cannot see any icons on the desktop for at least 15 minutes unless I add an icon to. what should i do? how can I solve this? (edgy)
[12:01] <flaccid> no kbd and mouse, but is the display driver working?
[12:01] <VSpike> I'm thinking of doing a clean install of feisty, when it's released
[12:02] <VSpike> Gonna be painful though
[12:03] <bill_k> no, used the working xorg.conf
[12:03] <bill_k> havent tested the most recent one
[12:03] <flaccid> wtf not
[12:03] <flaccid> i told you i forgot to remove the two screen sections..
[12:04] <flaccid> bill_k: please try http://pastebin.ca/444319
[12:04] <_4strO> tmske: where did you find the scribe package ?
[12:05] <bill_k> well, no kbd or mouse support,cant do much
[12:05] <lupul> someone help me please? which is the path i have to write in gaim to show the music i'm listening as status
[12:05] <lupul> from amarok
[12:05] <flaccid> bill_k: ctrl+alt+f1 and login there
[12:06] <bill_k> zero kbd mouse connectivity
[12:06] <tmske> _4strO, I got it of getdeb.net, but I'll try to install it manually and see if that works
[12:06] <bill_k> crap
[12:06] <bill_k> ooh idea
[12:06] <flaccid> bill_k: well if you get it back, that last pastebin of xorg should work in theory and fix that last problem.
[12:07] <_4strO> mmm
[12:07] <bill_k> should I bother with 4 hours of sleep?
[12:08] <tmske> _4strO: after installing it, I have no the error No module named TextBuffer
[12:10] <bill_k> activating swapfile swap fails
[12:11] <flaccid> bill_k: not going to try that conf ?
[12:11] <bill_k> flaccid: I cant get to pastebin.com without a gui
[12:11] <bill_k> i cant get keyboard and mouse with gui
[12:11] <_4strO> tmske: lol
[12:11] <bill_k> only before it gets to gui
[12:13] <VSpike> bill_k: you could use wget
[12:13] <laur> How to switch off OpenOffice's automatical crash recovery ?
[12:14] <flaccid> bill_k: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and get it work with something
[12:14] <flaccid> then when you are in kde/X overwite the xorg.conf with the 1 i pasted then restart kdm /X
[12:14] <VSpike> bill_k: wget http://pastebin.ca/444319
[12:15] <VSpike> bill_k: if you use GNU screen + vi/nano/emacs + wget you can do what you need
[12:17] <flaccid> thats true
[12:18] <VSpike> can also use irssi to connect here
[12:18] <VSpike> I was doing it yesterday on a broken x server
[12:19] <VSpike> painful but educational :)
[12:19] <VSpike> actually i like irssi
[12:19] <bill_k> VSpike: i'll just steal a kbd from the computer lab downstarirs tomorrow
[12:19] <bill_k> today
[12:19] <VSpike> just not in vga console resoltion on a 19" crt.  ew
[12:20] <bill_k> screen irssi
[12:20] <bill_k> crap, did the xorg config
[12:20] <bill_k> no luck
[12:20] <bill_k> !
[12:21] <bill_k> i have a usb mouse, any onscreen kbd?
[12:21] <bill_k> remote login eh?
[12:21] <bill_k> how do I add a host?
[12:21] <bill_k> or what do I add for host?
[12:22] <icecruncher> anybody?
[12:24] <Gabz> host ?
[12:25] <bill_k> at the ubuntu login scren
[12:26] <bill_k> there's remote login option
[12:26] <VSpike> icecruncher: did you look at http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=15535
[12:26] <bill_k> xdmcp host menu
[12:26] <icecruncher> no
[12:26] <icecruncher> thanks
[12:29] <_4strO> icecruncher: ?
[12:30] <flaccid> bill_k: you have login screen?
[12:30] <bill_k> only mouse though
[12:30] <_4strO> icecruncher: what did you do ?
[12:30] <flaccid> is this under my xorg.conf ?
[12:30] <icecruncher> nothing
[12:30] <bill_k> i can do anything in cli, recovery mode, but once it loads the login screen the mouse and kbd stop working
[12:30] <bill_k> no
[12:30] <ForMatter> Bill_k..Want ask somethin about kubuntu..
[12:30] <bill_k> guess i'll try a wget, rebooting again
[12:31] <flaccid> bill_k: you have not tested my xorg.conf yet?
[12:31] <ForMatter> Bill_k..
[12:31] <bill_k> ForMatter: my bluetooth mouse and keyboard work fine in recovery mode but something kills it when the login screen comes up
[12:32] <bill_k> even works in bios, there are hardware pairing buttons on both sides
[12:32] <bill_k> i'll try to put that conf in with wget
[12:32] <ForMatter> How to detecting modem on my notebook using kubuntu..I have motorola SM56 modem integrated,but was'nt detected..
[12:33] <bill_k> lspci
[12:33] <ForMatter> Please help me..
[12:33] <ForMatter> Yes..
[12:33] <bill_k> hmm, havent done that modem
[12:33] <bill_k> does it show up though'
[12:33] <bill_k> ;?
[12:33] <ForMatter> Bill_k
[12:34] <ForMatter> I dont know where i must lookin for driver..
[12:34] <bill_k> google ubuntu + adapter name
[12:34] <bill_k> ubuntu forums
[12:35] <ForMatter> Site address..
[12:35] <ForMatter> Bill_k..Are u using kubuntu too..
[12:36] <bill_k> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235448 yes
[12:36] <bill_k> ForMatter: it looks like it may be very difficult to get the modem working, I guess even windows support was stopped years ago
[12:36] <ForMatter> Where i find setting for login with root..
[12:36] <flaccid> !sudo
[12:36] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:37] <ForMatter> With x-windows like in ubuntu before..
[12:38] <ForMatter> In ubuntu,in login window there option for root login..In kubuntu i cant find it..
[12:39] <Hc\\\> !flash
[12:39] <flaccid> thats because you shouldn't login as root in X
[12:39] <Hc\\\> hmm
[12:39] <Hc\\\> how to get flash work?
[12:40] <flaccid> !flash
[12:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:40] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:40] <bill_k> flaccid: did the wget but all the html crap is jumbled in
[12:41] <flaccid> bill_k: you'll have to edit and remove that shiz
[12:41] <ForMatter> So..How about connect to the internet with w-lan..In wireless agent i have found some SSID but i cant connect it..
[12:41] <bill_k> how do I clear a line in nano?
[12:41] <bill_k> been holding the backspace key for minutes....
[12:41] <flaccid> !wireless > ForMatter
[12:41] <flaccid> bill_k: i don't know sorry
[12:42] <bill_k> crap
[12:42] <bill_k> flaccid: he has an unsupported motorola nic, at least according to ubuntuforums
[12:42] <bill_k> supposedly windows support was stopped a while ago for it too
[12:43] <flaccid> i'd buy or use a dif nic
[12:43] <flaccid> :)
[12:43] <bill_k> it's a modem :-p
[12:43] <bill_k> still a nic
[12:43] <flaccid> oh a modem is not a nic
[12:43] <flaccid> but yeah
[12:44] <flaccid> internal modem?
[12:44] <bill_k> it is too a network interface card
[12:44] <bill_k> just not a 100base t nic
[12:45] <flaccid> doesn't make it a nic
[12:45] <flaccid> but yeah
[12:45] <flaccid> argumentative
[12:46] <flaccid> just because its a port doesnt make it an nic :) you bridge the modem onto a nic. but im no engineer :)
[12:46] <bill_k> lol
[12:47] <bill_k> a fiber optic gbic is a nic, but not in the most common sense
[12:47] <bill_k> wifi cards are nics
[12:47] <bill_k> lol
[12:47] <flaccid> yes
[12:47] <flaccid> but modems only modulate and de-modulate
[12:48] <flaccid> if it had a nick it would be a router and you would need to route that to the other nic..
[12:48] <flaccid> err nick=nic
[12:48] <flaccid> dammit thats my dealers name, must be that time
[12:49] <bill_k> oh
[12:49] <bill_k> nevermind
[12:49] <bill_k> go buy ur drugz
[12:49] <flaccid> are you manually editing?
[12:50] <anees_> flaccid: hi...i want to update my firefox web browser
[12:50] <anees_> how can i do it
[12:50] <flaccid> apt-get
[12:51] <_4strO> anees_: wich version have you ?
[12:51] <_4strO> ( firefox -v)
[12:51] <bill_k> flaccid: i'm going to nap
[12:51] <bill_k> for 3 hours
[12:51] <flaccid> ok np
[12:51] <flaccid> i'm going for a few beers
[12:52] <bill_k> i'll be on later, thanks for your help
[12:52] <flaccid> i'll catcha(s) later
[12:52] <flaccid> np
[12:52] <bill_k> yup
[12:52] <flaccid> you must be in US or something
[12:52] <bill_k> yeah
[12:52] <flaccid> 21 is too late to drink
[12:52] <bill_k> where are you?
[12:52] <bill_k> it's 6am
[12:52] <bill_k> lol
[12:52] <flaccid> im in australia
[12:53] <flaccid> on that little island on the bottom
[12:53] <flaccid> called tasmania
[12:53] <flaccid> and at the bottom of that
[12:53] <anees_> flaccid: Firefox 1.5.0.11
[12:53] <bill_k> cool
[12:53] <bill_k> what time is it there?
[12:54] <_4strO> anees_: you're on an edgy ?
[12:54] <bill_k> :)
[12:54] <anees_> ok...thanx
[12:55] <bill_k> flaccid: ok, really going to sleep this time, thank again
[12:55] <flaccid> Tue Apr 17 20:54:56 EST 2007
[12:55] <flaccid> npz cya
[12:55] <flaccid> cyas later
[12:57] <alexicon> helllo
[12:57] <alexicon> i just rebooted my machine cos it froze, and now my wifi card has dissapeared
[12:58] <alexicon> the device doesnt show up anymore
[12:58] <alexicon> looks like the driver is still there..
[12:58] <alexicon> any ideas where to start lookin?
[12:59] <_4strO> alexicon: dmesg ?
[01:00] <alexicon> good idea, why didnt i think of that :P
[01:00] <_4strO> dmesg | grep ipw
[01:00] <alexicon> ath im on atheros drivers
[01:00] <alexicon> and its saying stuff bout
[01:00] <alexicon> disagrees about version of symbol
[01:01] <alexicon> im running on patched drivers :/
[01:01] <alexicon> but havent had a problem for 4 months
[01:01] <_4strO> alexicon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[01:01] <_4strO> never had a wifi pb
[01:02] <alexicon> cant cos without wifi i cant get online
[01:02] <alexicon> oh
[01:02] <alexicon> i could reverse my nat..
[01:02] <alexicon> this is going to be hassle -_-
[01:02] <_4strO> exept for using aircrack
[01:02] <alexicon> yeah
[01:02] <alexicon> oh
[01:02] <alexicon> thats why i patched my drivers
[01:02] <_4strO> ^^
[01:02] <alexicon> i can use packet injection
[01:02] <alexicon> they wont give me an internet connection >_>
[01:02] <alexicon> so i *need* my wifi :P
[01:03] <_4strO> Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection <-- not compatible :/
[01:03] <alexicon> yeah
[01:03] <alexicon> i got a netgear pci card on my desktop
[01:03] <alexicon> its a beauty, instantly recognised by the system when i installed it, drivers patched no issues
[01:04] <alexicon> my computer has been acting funny though. unexplicably slow... firefox crashing all the time
[01:04] <alexicon> i should check my ssh logs... -_-
[01:07] <alexicon> ooooh idea. maybe it was because i did a full upgrade the other day. it tried to install the upgraded atheros drivers, and now conflicts with my patched ones or something
[01:08] <_4strO> hh possible
[01:09] <_Johny> Hello.Is there any website where I could check whether my digital camera is recognized in Kubuntu?
[01:10] <_4strO> !camera
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <_4strO> !webcam
[01:10] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:11] <_Johny> _4strO: I didn't mean a webcam but a digital camera
[01:11] <_Johny> thanks anyway
[01:13] <posingaspopular> _Johny: try googling the linux compatability list
[01:13] <posingaspopular> or ubuntuforums
[01:13] <_Johny> posingaspopular: Ok, thanks. I just thought there was some kind o website
[01:24] <yaccin> is there a bug in feistys recent xserver?
[01:25] <yaccin> i cant start gimp :/
[01:26] <T0uCH> Hi.. does anybody knows how to enable transparency of the K menu in Kubuntu desktop (kde) ??
[01:38] <T0uCH> Hi.. does anybody knows how to enable transparency of the K menu in Kubuntu desktop (kde) ??
[01:40] <Marthy> i believe it is on the same page as the desktop settings for changing the background and such
[01:44] <T0uCH> its not very complicated in this page.. but there is nothing about the k-menu transparency
[01:50] <Linux_Galore_> install Vista Fonts in Linux, simple pre made script -> http://users.tpg.com.au/abdserv6/GetVistaFonts
[01:51] <_Johny> Linux_Galore_: but for what?
[01:51] <Linux_Galore_> _Johny: It installs it for Linux and put them in the "users"  ~/.fonts  directory
[01:52] <Linux_Galore_> puts*
[01:52] <drkns> hello
[01:52] <drkns> i am new to linux and kubuntu
[01:52] <Linux_Galore_> _Johny: got the idea from a BSD blog, then i just created a script that did all the steps
[01:53] <_Johny> Linux_Galore_: Ah, ok. I just find it a bit useless to install vista fonts in Linux, but may be usefull to someone maybe /:
[01:53] <drkns> i figured out everything but wireless
[01:53] <drkns> my pcmcia card wont seem to work
[01:53] <drkns> can someone help?
[01:53] <Linux_Galore_> _Johny: when you get a file that needs them from a Vista user they are their
[01:54] <_Johny> Linux_Galore_: I'm not sure I got it..
[01:55] <drkns> himmm help channel and noone answers
[01:56] <Linux_Galore_> _Johny: Vista has some extra fonts installed as standard, some are very nice and they all begin with the letter "C",    now lets say a windows user running Office 2007 decides to use one of them you can reproduce the exact same look within Linux
[01:56] <IdleOne> anyone know where I could find addon scripts for konversation?
[01:56] <IdleOne> !wifi | drkns
[01:56] <ubotu> drkns: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:56] <_Johny> drkns: If someone got and idea on how to help you would answer
[01:56] <drkns> ok thanks
[01:57] <_Johny> drkns: Did you try to search on google through compatible devices wesites your card model?
[01:58] <Linux_Galore_> drkns: the reason no one will answer is because your question is vague and you have not shown us that you have attempted to read up first
[01:59] <drkns> i have searched for it and it seems my card is supported through ndiswrapper and i have no idea to set it up that way
[01:59] <drkns> i am using kubuntu and it seems most sites goes the way for ubuntu
[01:59] <Linux_Galore_> drkns: ndiswrapper can be hit and miss
[01:59] <drkns> my card is usr5411
[02:00] <Linux_Galore_> drkns: Ive seen ndiswrapper not work with one kernel, downgrade or upgrade it to another version and it starts working
[02:00] <_Johny> it's the same :) the difference is only windows manager (Kubuntu-KDE) (Ubuntu-GNOME), right?
[02:00] <IdleOne> !find libhunspell-1.1-0
[02:00] <ubotu> Package/file libhunspell-1.1-0 does not exist in edgy
[02:02] <drkns> i have another card that strats up but wont register to access point
[02:02] <Linux_Galore_> !hunspell
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hunspell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <Linux_Galore_> hmm
[02:02] <_Johny> !find ndiswrapper
[02:02] <ubotu> Found: ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-utils-1.1, ndiswrapper-utils-1.8, ndiswrapper-source (and 8 others)
[02:02] <Linux_Galore_> the package is in Universe stupid bot
[02:02] <drkns> well let me work on this link more
[02:02] <drkns> thanks guys
[02:03] <Linux_Galore_> IdleOne: its in universe libhunspell
[02:03] <Linux_Galore_> as hunspell
[02:04] <Linux_Galore_> http://ftp.riken.go.jp/pub/Linux/ubuntu/pool/universe/h/hunspell/
[02:05] <Linux_Galore_> !libhunspell-dev
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libhunspell-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <Linux_Galore_> !find libhunspell-dev
[02:05] <ubotu> Found: libhunspell-dev
[02:05] <Linux_Galore_> lol
[02:05] <Linux_Galore_> !find hunspell
[02:05] <ubotu> Found: hunspell, hunspell-de-at, hunspell-de-ch, hunspell-de-de, libhunspell-dev (and 1 others)
[02:27] <IdleOne> Linux_Galore_: ty for searching was looking to see what it was because I got a 'untrusted package warning" and wasnt sure where it belonged. was an update for iceApe browser ( not in repos yet )
[02:28] <Linux_Galore_> your welcome, I was curious too
[02:29] <Linux_Galore_> I have a weird mental tic were if I see something I have to know the answer
[02:29] <berkes> does anyone know if its possible to use wildcards in the /etc/hosts file?
[02:29] <IdleOne> IceApe will be in feisty+1 #ubuntu-mozillateam
[02:30] <Linux_Galore_> berkes: wouldnt know I have never tried it, cant see why not
[02:30] <IdleOne> Linux_Galore_: Im trying to find addon scripts for Konversation to add some uncommon functionality like : IRC Oper script and such. you know of any?
[02:31] <Linux_Galore_> IdleOne: no, I havent tried adding any to be honest
[02:32] <IdleOne> would think the homepage might have a few but I cant seem to find any
[02:47] <edgar0137> hola
[02:56] <dromer> how can I mount a .bin file ?
[02:56] <riamerril> can somebody help me out here?
[02:56] <riamerril> I was looking at how to retrieve a list of rooms. specifically looking for a quizzing room
[02:59] <Tm_T> riamerril: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:59] <Tm_T> riamerril: does that page help you?
[03:00] <riamerril> hey ! thanks .. actually i used the /list command
[03:00] <WillLuongo> dromer: http://www.jonhoweonline.com/blog/node/82
[03:00] <riamerril> it got me a list of rooms which i filtered for quiz .. and im in there now :o)
[03:00] <Tm_T> riamerril: what I know about /list, it's too huge to used reasonable without search capability
[03:01] <dromer> WillLuongo: yeah I found that one, but I don't want to convert the file, also I don't have a .cue with the file
[03:01] <dromer> !cdemu
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <dromer> hmm, I could try that ..
[03:02] <dromer> though it might be risky for me to start playing with kernel modules ..
me using konqueror .. and it has that capability .. to search i mean
[03:02] <luca> hi everybody
[03:02] <WillLuongo> hi luca!
[03:02] <kubuntu22> hello luca
[03:03] <luca> hi :)
[03:03] <luca> does someone know how ubuntu runs on an ASUS F3P?
[03:03] <flaccid> luca: i don't but asus motherboards tend to go pretty well
[03:03] <Tm_T> riamerril: no, I mean in irc /list
[03:03] <luca> I am thinking about changing my laptop and I wanna avoid any problem, if possibleP
[03:03] <luca> thanks flaccid :)
[03:03] <flaccid> luca: im on an asus laptop
[03:04] <luca> any problem whatsoever? may I ask which model?
[03:04] <RealisticDragon> morning all
[03:04] <RealisticDragon> is there a ppc install CD for kubuntu 7.04? cant see one on the d/loads page :o
[03:05] <flaccid> luca: sd card bridge not supported, but thats about it. this is on a asus w1000Na
[03:05] <abattoir> RealisticDragon: of the RC?
[03:05] <Tm_T> RealisticDragon: PPC is not officially supported anymore, but there is a team building PPC stuff so...
[03:05] <abattoir> or a nightly?
[03:05] <bobstro> flaccid: did that work (the firefox thing)?
[03:05] <abattoir> hi Tm_T :)
[03:05] <RealisticDragon> Tm_T: just for kubuntu, or for ubuntu as well? :o
 yeah thats correct. however I am using konqueror and that serves the purpose i suppose :o)
[03:06] <Tm_T> riamerril: konqueror? you mean konversation ?
[03:06] <flaccid> bobstro: its a bug which the result needs dev from what i read, don't think you can anything now, but i didn't read it thoroughly
[03:06] <Tm_T> RealisticDragon: for Ubuntu atleast, no idea about Kubuntu part
[03:06] <Tm_T> RealisticDragon: but prolly that too
[03:06] <luca> flaccid thank you very much...however, your model is indeed quite different from the F3P :(
[03:06] <RealisticDragon> yikes :/ good job efty works pretty well on my powerbook if its the last upgrade its getting for a while ;)
[03:06] <bobstro> flaccid: if you try opening a file through the menu, it (apparently sometimes) lets you decide there. that's what i did originally and didn't think much of it.
[03:07] <Tm_T> abattoir: hello :)
[03:07] <dromer> WillLuongo: bchunk doesn't work since I don't have a .cue file
[03:07] <bobstro> flaccid: i wonder if it's related to whether you did a fresh firefox install or upgrade though.
[03:07] <dromer> !bchunk
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bchunk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <WillLuongo> dromer, sorry that is all I have...
[03:08] <dromer> kay
[03:08] <dromer> anybody else on mounting .bin files ?
[03:08] <flaccid> bobstro: from what ive read and experienced, its either
[03:08] <ubuntu_> hi
 yup konversation it is
[03:09] <Tm_T> riamerril: konqueror is web/filebrowser (and general powertool)
[03:09] <flaccid> !iso
[03:09] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:09] <flaccid> dromer: try that^^ should apply to bin files which are usually a .iso
[03:10] <riamerril> Tm_T: sorry .. wanted to say konversation .. and typed konqueror ... am new to ubuntu and in general to linux
[03:10] <enry> hi
[03:10] <ubuntu_> quien habla espanol aqui
[03:11] <dromer> flaccid: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:11] <Tm_T> riamerril: no problemo, I tend to do such mistakes aswell
[03:13] <flaccid> dromer: what command are you running
[03:13] <bobdhicks> I tried to install Monkeyaudioplugin to k3b. When I did ./configure, got the following message: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check. What do I do now? Running 6.10 and I am a newbie.
[03:14] <dromer> flaccid: sudo mount -o loop <BIN-filename> <mountpoint>
[03:14] <Tm_T> bobdhicks: "sudo apt-get build-dep k3b
[03:14] <Tm_T> bobdhicks: then try again, though might not help you at all
[03:15] <flaccid> dromer: without conversion of your .bin try this: sudo mount -t iso9660 myimage.bin /mnt/mymountpoint -o loop
[03:15] <flaccid> make sure you mkdir mymountpoint as you want
[03:15] <flaccid> if that doesn't mount, you need to convert the bin to iso
[03:15] <dromer> yeah I already made a mountpoint for the file :)
[03:15] <flaccid> sweet
[03:16] <dromer> flaccid: mount: MP2_Install.bin is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[03:16] <flaccid> thats what i specified
[03:16] <flaccid> you need that to mount an image
[03:16] <dromer> hmm, guess I have to convert then :S
[03:17] <dromer> don't have cd's to burn anyway :P
[03:17] <flaccid> maybe
[03:17] <flaccid> use http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion#bin2iso
[03:17] <flaccid> then mount
[03:17] <dromer> I'm trying to compile bin2iso (like on the website ubotu gave) but the program isn't working
[03:17] <flaccid> its on some occasions that .bin are actually a .iso but yeah
[03:17] <flaccid> !info bin2iso
[03:17] <ubotu> Package bin2iso does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[03:17] <flaccid> um
[03:17] <flaccid> ok
[03:18] <dromer> flaccid: I compiled the bin.iso.c with gcc
[03:18] <flaccid> whats the issue?
[03:18] <dromer> $ gcc -o bin2iso bin2iso.c
[03:18] <dromer> $ bin2iso
[03:18] <dromer> bash: bin2iso: command not found
[03:18] <flaccid> dromer: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:18] <flaccid> then try
[03:19] <flaccid> need gcc first
[03:19] <dromer> flaccid: build-essential is already the newest version.
[03:19] <flaccid> what does whereis gcc return?
[03:19] <dromer> gcc: /usr/bin/gcc /usr/lib/gcc /usr/X11R6/bin/gcc /usr/bin/X11/gcc /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz
[03:20] <flaccid> oh i misread
[03:20] <flaccid> bin2iso is not installed
[03:20] <flaccid> you have to d/l the c file first
[03:20] <flaccid> wget http://mange.dynup.net/linux/bin2iso/bin2iso.c
[03:20] <flaccid> then try
[03:21] <dromer> I did that already
[03:21] <flaccid> then its not in the pwd
[03:21] <dromer> dlled the .c to my desktop, then ran it with;  $ gcc -o bin2iso bin2iso.c
[03:21] <flaccid> ie. the present directory
[03:21] <flaccid> dromer: what does pwd return?
[03:21] <dromer> I cd-ed to Desktop
[03:21] <dromer> just pwd ?
[03:21] <flaccid> yeah
[03:22] <stdin> dromer: when you're running an app from the anywhere not in the $PATH, you need to give a path to it, eg ./bin2iso
[03:22] <dromer> /home/user/Desktop
[03:22] <flaccid> hangon
[03:22] <flaccid> you pasted two commands
[03:23] <dromer> stdin, ok thnx, now I get an awnser from bin2iso
[03:23] <flaccid> doum yeah
[03:23] <dromer> I thought the compile made the program readily available anywhere in the commandline
[03:23] <flaccid> ooops sorry im drunk heh
[03:23] <dromer> hahaha
[03:23] <flaccid> dromer: oh sorry make install needed for that with a Makefile
[03:23] <dromer> oh ok
[03:24] <flaccid> so just mv it to /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[03:24] <flaccid> or a desired path in $PATH
[03:24] <flaccid> it should actually go in /usr/sbin but ubuntu breaks traditional heir so it doesn't matter
[03:24] <flaccid> anyway you can run it now and convert
[03:25] <flaccid> stdin is good with the stdout :p
[03:25] <flaccid> :)
[03:25] <stdin> :D
[03:26] <dromer> flaccid: you mean if I mv the compiled bin2iso to /usr/bin/ it'll run ok anywhere ?
[03:27] <flaccid> dromer: yep
[03:27] <dromer> yay it works
[03:27] <flaccid> dromer: what irc clien are you using ?
[03:27] <dromer> takes a while though :P
[03:27] <flaccid> yeah will take a while
[03:27] <dromer> flaccid: irssi, running from my server (debian etch)
[03:27] <dromer> flaccid: why?
[03:27] <flaccid> sweet
[03:27] <flaccid> just curious
[03:28] <dromer> ok :)
[03:28] <dromer> and you?
[03:28] <flaccid> konversation
[03:28] <flaccid> but i'm a shell head with quite a few terminal emulators going
[03:28] <flaccid> do this command: set | grep PATH
[03:29] <flaccid> that is your path search
[03:29] <stdin> or just "echo $PATH" :)
[03:29] <flaccid> ah yeah
[03:29] <flaccid> but i wanted to return any other paths
[03:29] <dromer> what?
[03:29] <flaccid> not that any normal users have that set
[03:30] <flaccid> soz
[03:30] <flaccid> don't worry i'm just blabbing
[03:30] <stdin> hehe
[03:30] <flaccid> focus on your iso :)
[03:30] <flaccid> sounds like fun
[03:31] <dromer> !cedega
[03:31] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:32] <ForMatter> Mr.Flacid i need your help..How to i want to make a ping with between some computer with shell programming..
[03:33] <dromer> refrase your question (or maybe find a channel in your native language), what are you trying ?
[03:33] <ForMatter> Flaccid
[03:33] <stdin> shell programming or shell scripting ?
[03:34] <bobdhicks> With help here, tried installing monkeyaudioplugin. Seemed ok through ./configure, but many warnings and errors with make. Here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16118/. Would someone suggest what I do now? Thanks.
[03:35] <ForMatter> I am sorry with my languange..With shell programming..
[03:35] <flaccid> um put the command in a shell script
[03:36] <ForMatter> Yes,but i dont know about the shell script..
[03:36] <flaccid> header is #!/bin/sh
[03:36] <flaccid> lean about shel scripting
[03:36] <flaccid> !find shell
[03:36] <ubotu> Found: coreutils, kviewshell, csh, dbishell, gforge-shell-ldap (and 15 others)
[03:36] <stdin> ForMatter: commandline ping = ping
[03:36] <_Johny> !find autostart
[03:36] <ubotu> Found: kcontrol-autostart
[03:36] <flaccid> !shell
[03:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:36] <flaccid> there you go ForMatter^
[03:37] <stdin> ForMatter: eg: "ping -c1 host" will ping "host" 1 time
[03:37] <_Johny> anything about making apps launch after system boots?
[03:37] <stdin> _Johny: system wide, or just for your user?
[03:38] <_Johny> stdin: system wide
[03:38] <_Johny> stdin: ehm...both if possible
[03:39] <flaccid> what do you runna run on boot?
[03:39] <ForMatter> Thanks flacid..
[03:40] <flaccid> thank stdin
[03:40] <_Johny> flaccid: I'd like to learn an easy way to add some apps to my autaostart (can be terminal as well)
[03:40] <flaccid> he gave you the example which you'll need to do otherwise the script is infinite until kill
[03:40] <drkns> hello again
[03:40] <flaccid> but which apps _Johny?
[03:40] <_Johny> drkns: HI
[03:41] <_Johny> flaccid: Katapult, for example
[03:41] <stdin> _Johny: for KDE you put links to applications you want to start in ~/.kde/Autostart/ (only really good for GUI apps)
[03:41] <drkns> i managed to light up my wirelesscard however i need to modify some config files under etc/ folder and ofcourse it wont let me update that file since it does not see me as sudo
[03:41] <drkns> is it possible to get su mode and edit this file visually??
[03:41] <stdin> _Johny: the package "kcontrol-autostart" will give you a GUI to do that, or you can do it in command line
[03:42] <WillLuongo> drkns: use kdesu and edit it
[03:42] <_Johny> drkns: kdesu
[03:42] <flaccid> !autostart
[03:42] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:42] <_Johny> flaccid: thanks
[03:42] <flaccid> _Johny: you can do it via konqueror for gui i think
[03:42] <drkns> hgimm thanks again fellas
[03:42] <flaccid> "Link to Application"
[03:42] <stdin> yeah, that will work
[03:42] <flaccid> Katapult is definately a user kde session only think
[03:42] <_Johny> flaccid: means sym link doesn't it?
[03:42] <stdin> kde will read .desktop files too
[03:43] <flaccid> think=thing.
[03:43] <flaccid> yep John
[03:43] <_Johny> ok
[03:43] <flaccid> thats pretty cool
[03:43] <flaccid> .desktop files become handy and portable
[03:43] <flaccid> cheers stdin
[03:43] <stdin> :)
[03:43] <flaccid> ironically
[03:43] <flaccid> that file is parsed to stdin
[03:43] <flaccid> so no wonder you knew
[03:44] <stdin> everything goes to stdin :P
[03:44] <_Johny> I really like the katapult idea
[03:44] <flaccid> ol
[03:44] <flaccid> lol
[03:44] <flaccid> my l key is stuck from beer!
[03:44] <_Johny> Just for curiosity - Does Gnome has an app similiar to "katapult"?
[03:44] <flaccid> what about stdout
[03:44] <stdin> my keys are brown now, from all the coffee I spill on them :)
[03:45] <flaccid> he doesn't get passed to you at al stdin. probably a good thing :p
[03:45] <flaccid> well actually it good but its not a good practice
[03:45] <stdin> _Johny: no clue, I never use gnome for long, just long enough to install KDE
[03:45] <flaccid> yeah this is on my notebook its like risky but has survived
[03:46] <_Johny> fine
[03:46] <drkns> ok how am i going to get kdesu to work here???
[03:46] <flaccid> drkns: work where sorry
[03:46] <stdin> drkns: are you in the admin group?
[03:46] <drkns> i opened the file and made changes to it but cant save it
[03:47] <WillLuongo> drkns: you should be able to cd to the directory with the file you edit, then kdesu kate filename
[03:47] <flaccid> drkns: you will need to reopen it under the right user as in root. however you can save a copy then copy back.
[03:47] <drkns> thanks guys
[03:47] <eagles0513875> how do i stop the x server so that i can install the nvidia driver from nvidia
[03:47] <drkns> yes i am admin
[03:48] <jbruckman> !kde
[03:48] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[03:48] <jbruckman> !monitor
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <stdin> eagles0513875: go to tty1 (Crtl-Alt-F1) then loggin and type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[03:48] <flaccid> eagles0513875: you don't need to stop the x server. only restart it when you have the new config ready
[03:48] <jbruckman> hey everyone, i'm having some troubles
[03:48] <flaccid> as per stdin
[03:48] <stdin> eagles0513875: but use the driver from ubuntu instead
[03:48] <flaccid> replace stop with restart :)
[03:48] <eagles0513875> it wont let me install it though flacid
[03:48] <stdin> eagles0513875: it's more stable
[03:48] <eagles0513875> y stdin
[03:48] <jbruckman> I just got my nvidia card to work correctly using the restricted modules and stuff, but now I can't get the right screen resolution
[03:49] <flaccid> eagles0513875: install what exactly?
[03:49] <eagles0513875> ok when i did that it screwed up my whole system
[03:49] <flaccid> need specifics
[03:49] <eagles0513875> install the driver so that direct rendering goes from being no to yes
[03:49] <flaccid> um
[03:49] <stdin> jbruckman: tried reconfiguring the X server?
[03:49] <jbruckman> I can only have 640x800 or whatever, and a much bigger one, but the bigger one basically extends the desktop so that moving the mouse around just movesa 640x800 desktop around... I dunno how to describe it exactly
[03:49] <jbruckman> stdin: dunno how.
[03:50] <flaccid> feel free to show xorg.conf or /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:50] <stdin> jbruckman: open a console or switch to a termanal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[03:51] <flaccid> jbruckman: and if that fails come back to us for manual config of the forementioned files
[03:51] <stdin> jbruckman: and notice the space between "xserver-xorg" and "-phigh"
[03:51] <jbruckman> i know how flags work.
[03:51] <jbruckman> :|
[03:51] <jbruckman> thanks.
[03:51] <WillLuongo> jbruckman:sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:51] <WillLuongo> stdin: what does the -phigh do?
[03:51] <WillLuongo> stdin: I got my prefered resolution back without it?
[03:52] <stdin> WillLuongo: the -phigh only shows questions with a "high" or higher priority (ie the driver selection and the resolution)
[03:52] <WillLuongo> stdin: So basically you have to wade through less menus?
[03:53] <flaccid> thats a sweet switch
[03:53] <stdin> WillLuongo: exactly :)
[03:53] <flaccid> i didn't know that!!
[03:53] <flaccid> far out
[03:53] <WillLuongo> stdin: Nice. I wish I had known about that!
[03:53] <flaccid> so no sync ranges, stdin?
[03:53] <stdin> flaccid: no, that's at a lower priority
[03:54] <WillLuongo> stdin, flaccid: on the Nvidia driver you can skip that by selecting medium rather than advanced.
[03:54] <eagles0513875> what nvidia pkg should i download
[03:54] <flaccid> ok thanks
[03:54] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: what kind of card do you have/
[03:54] <eagles0513875> 6600 gt
[03:55] <eagles0513875> i have the driver from nvidia but it wants me to shutdown the xserver befor i install it
[03:55] <stdin> eagles0513875: nvidia-glx (for newer cards) or nvidia-glx-legacy (for older cards), info on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:55] <ubuntu> does anybody know what the default password is on the 5.1 Live DVD
[03:55] <eagles0513875> i downloaded the new glx driver and it screwed up my whole installation
[03:56] <stdin> ubuntu: there isn't one
[03:56] <ubuntu> yes there is
[03:56] <ubuntu> when i go on standby
[03:56] <ubuntu> not at login
[03:56] <stdin> ubuntu: no, there isn't one, sorry
[03:56] <ubuntu> no
[03:56] <ubuntu> there's no way for me to return to the desktop after going on standby
[03:56] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: what he said. I think you just want nvidia-glx though.
[03:57] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: When I updated my nvidia drivers (i needed legacy) I had to manually reconfigure them afterwards.
[03:57] <eagles0513875> ahhhh
[03:57] <eagles0513875> ok
[03:57] <stdin> ubuntu: you can switch to a terminal and set one tho, Ctrl-Alt-F1, and type "sudo passwd ubuntu"
[03:57] <ubuntu> it  has one user selection, "ubuntu" and a blank password will not work
[03:57] <eagles0513875> is there a wiki on how to set them up
[03:57] <ubuntu> thanks
[03:57] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: you should be able to just go medium with all defaults
[03:57] <eagles0513875> ok
[03:58] <ubuntu> does switching terminals work while x is running?
[03:58] <ubuntu> I thought that usually killed x
[03:58] <eagles0513875> to install the nvidia driver just do sudo bash then name of file
[03:58] <stdin> ubuntu: no, default X runs on tty7, leaving tty1-6 as terminals
[03:59] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:59] <eagles0513875> is there a simple x cmd to stop x cuz the cmds i was given here dont seem to work
[03:59] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: you could boot into terminal.
[03:59] <eagles0513875> how
[03:59] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: when you get to the login screen, click the list thing on the left. Console or terminal will be one of your choices.
[04:00] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok
[04:00] <eagles0513875> gotcha ty
[04:00] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: yw
[04:00] <eagles0513875> im not fully awak yet this am
[04:00] <ubuntu> startx seems buggy from the terminal for me
[04:01] <ubuntu> on the livecd
[04:01] <stdin> why do you need to do startx on a livecd?
[04:01] <ubuntu> I'm on someone elses laptop, and windows vista is worthless.
[04:02] <ubuntu> sorry, too many dialogs at once here
[04:03] <WillLuongo> ubuntu: Windows vista is worthless.
[04:03] <stdin> ubuntu: btw, 5.10 is a very old version, use 6.06 or 6.10 (or even 7.04 now)
[04:03] <ubuntu> Is there a way to create a custom live DVD that contains a password so that I can return from standby without rebooting?
[04:04] <ubuntu> or without setting a new password each time?
[04:05] <WillLuongo> ubuntu: I think there is some way to combine a live CD with settings stored on a flash drive, but I don't know how to do it.
[04:05] <stdin> ubuntu: there us a way, but it's a bit involved, I think I can find you a link to a howto
[04:08] <ubuntu> hmm. . . sudo passwd ubuntu works
[04:08] <ubuntu> a new passwd on each boot will keep things secure I guess
[04:09] <WillLuongo> ubuntu: Why don't you commit to a hard drive install?
[04:09] <stdin> ubuntu: you can use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization to do it, and set the password while in the chroot, but I've never tried it, and don't know if it will work
[04:11] <bobstro> ubuntu: you want to regularly boot ubuntu off his vista machine then?
[04:12] <bobstro> ubuntu: there have been articles about installing ubuntu onto a USB stick, then saving config details there.
[04:12] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[04:12] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:12] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: anyluck?
[04:13] <eagles0513875> i needed to download libc pkg
[04:13] <eagles0513875> goign to try again
[04:13] <eagles0513875> brb yet again
[04:15] <markrian> Is it possible for kwallet to be opened automatically after logging in? gnome-keyring has this ability, with the help of libpam-keyring. The only reference to such a thing I've found is over two years old. Any ideas?
[04:16] <flaccid> markrian: i'd ask that in #kde but you can always use autostart for sessions
[04:17] <Tm_T> anyone with extra time, please do http://test.openusability.org/UCCASS/survey.php?sid=43
[04:18] <czer323> markrian, I changed my password to a blank password for kwallet, and now it doesn't ask to be entered every time i turn the computer on.  It's the only thing I could find.
[04:21] <markrian> flaccid: already on it ;o
[04:21] <markrian> czer323: I'd rather not leave kwallet's password blank...!
[04:22] <bobstro> markrian: is kwallet simply not starting automatically?
[04:22] <czer323> markrian, lol, well, if you figure something out, relay it back to me too. ;)
[04:22] <bobstro> markrian: you've got it enabled, right?
[04:25] <_Johny> !find PATH
[04:25] <ubotu> Found: chrpath, iputils-tracepath, libgcj7-dev, libkpathsea-dev, libkpathsea4 (and 41 others)
[04:25] <_Johny> How can I add a line to my $PATH?
[04:26] <Dr_willis> the various bash guides/docs detail that.. in short you EXPORT the new PATH variable with the extra dir added to the end or beginning
[04:26] <Dr_willis> export PATH=$PATH:New/Path/TO/Add
[04:26] <Dr_willis> I think thats right.
[04:27] <Dr_willis> use 'echo $PATH' to see what your current PATH is.
[04:27] <_Johny> Dr_willis: Thank you very much and sorry for a out of topic question
[04:27] <Dr_willis> Bash fundamentals. :)
[04:28] <bobstro> _Johny: ~/.bashrc is probably a good place for that to go.
[04:28] <Dr_willis> !abs
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <markrian> bobstro: sure, kwallet's enabled... but it seems to me that it should open automatically immediately after loggin in to KDE, which it doesn't
[04:28] <Dr_willis> !bash
[04:28] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:28] <bobstro> markrian: ah, ok. wanted to make sure i understood what you were after.
[04:28] <_Johny> Dr_willis: I'm still learning:)
[04:28] <Dr_willis> The 'advanced bash scripting guide' is worth googling for and bookmarking.  I think its also in the repos so you can install it locally.
[04:29] <Dr_willis> That O'reialy book 'Using Bash' is also very very well worth gettting if you want to increase your Bash-Fu-Skills.
[04:29] <bobstro> _Johny: you might want to read the INVOCATION section in the bash manpage for where to put some of those sorts of things.
[04:30] <bobstro> markrian: i've got ssh-add launching in same way. i think that's what you're after right? just have it pop up and ask right away?
[04:30] <_Johny> bobstro: thanks
[04:31] <bobstro> _Johny: if you look at your ~/.bash_profile, i believe it does what you're looking for.
[04:31] <markrian> bobstro: not really, I want kwallet to be smart enough to know that after logging in, I've already correctly identified myself, and should have to do so again to access my passwords
[04:31] <markrian> Erm, SHOULDN'T have to do so I mean
[04:31] <bobstro> _Johny: but ~/.bashrc (also called from ubuntu ~/.bash_profile) is called for all shells.
[04:32] <bobstro> markrian: ah, ok.
[04:32] <_Johny> Dr_willis: Thank you , I managed
[04:33] <bobstro> i suppose there's some logic behind the various bash rc files, but it can be annoying.
[04:33] <adamwood> has anyone in here bought a new pc or laptop with kubuntu pre-installed?
[04:34] <Dr_willis> bobstro,  part of it is the 'history' of how the shell has progressed. and files kept around for backwards compatiability
[04:34] <Dr_willis> bobstro,  in short. one file .bash_profile - is ran by 'login' shells , the other .bashrc is ran by all the other shells.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> of course what different disrtos do with those files.. can get confusing.
[04:35] <bobstro> Dr_willis: true. it's just maddening when different distributions do things differently (e.g. sourcing -- or not -- .bashrc from .bash_profile)
[04:35] <Dr_willis> yep.  Then you got the various alias's and bash-completion features that may or may not be enabled.
[04:35] <bobstro> Dr_willis: *most* seem to be doing that, at least.
[04:36] <Dr_willis> then you got the 'fancy' ways some are using /etc/ and dirs to keep all these alias files and other setting  files seperate instead of one huge file
[04:37] <bobstro> Dr_willis: i spent a lot of time on shell scripting, but am trying to mend my ways. :) beating my head up against python now.
[04:38] <Dr_willis> I know REXX better then i do most other scripting languages. :)
[04:38] <Dr_willis> old-skool
[04:38] <bobstro> er... that was the IBM stuff, right?
[04:38] <bobstro> 1990-ish?
[04:38] <bobstro> sorry, i'll drift OT with you if you let me.
[04:39] <Dr_willis> I used it on my AMIGA. :)
[04:39] <bobstro> hehe, ok. my mind is going.
[04:39] <Dr_willis> it was a darn handy 'glue' back then to get stuff from the editors to the database programs and so forth.
[04:39] <bobstro> all those glorious "standards" pre-MS dominance.
[04:39] <Dr_willis> a feature i sort of miss in linux apps.
[04:40] <bobstro> i need to find a #nostalgic_geek channel
[04:40] <Tm_T> ...
[04:41] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[04:41] <Daisuke_IPFW> well now, it looks like i finally managed to get ssh working :)
[04:41] <Zoohouse> Is there a way/player that can play DRM mp3s? I would like to listen to an ebook but I need something to play the drm files
[04:41] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: good deal. what were you doing?
[04:42] <Zoohouse> My mistake, I mean DRM WMA files, not MP3
[04:42] <Daisuke_IPFW> bobstro: just got it set up so i can get to what i need on the home pc from the restrictive connections at school.
[04:42] <Daisuke_IPFW> poor kai
[04:42] <cl187> anyone know how i can use the apt command from shell to update kernel and do i need any special repositories?
[04:42] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: ah fun. have you got a socks proxy going yet?
[04:42] <stdin> Zoohouse: no, DRM and Linux don't work
[04:42] <bobstro> Zoohouse: seriously, boycot the DRM stuff!
[04:42] <Daisuke_IPFW> bobstro: not yet, i suppose i should probably figure out how, huh?
[04:43] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: check out the -D option. you may be in violation of school policy though.
[04:43] <Tm_T> that was bit noisy one
[04:44] <Daisuke_IPFW> hmm, one thing i haven't figured out is multiple terminal sessions in putty
[04:44] <Layer8> hi all
[04:44] <stdin> Daisuke_IPFW: then use konsole :)
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  i awways just use 'screen'
[04:44] <Layer8> some samba-people here?
[04:44] <Daisuke_IPFW> stdin: would be nice if i were on a linux machine :)
[04:44] <eean> hehe yea, I've never used putty in linux
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Layer8,  lots of samba users :)
[04:44] <stdin> Daisuke_IPFW: ahh, then screen is the way for you
[04:45] <Layer8> Dr_willis yeah...but sone samba and kerberos pros?
[04:45] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: with putty, you can just duplicate the session, but you have to re-auth for each.
[04:45] <Daisuke_IPFW> that's what i figured
[04:45] <Dr_willis> Layer8,  ive never used Kerberos - so cant help ya there.
[04:45] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: although you could use keys, ssh-add if you don't want to log in for each.
[04:46] <stdin> Daisuke_IPFW: screen lets you login once, but have multiple shells going
[04:46] <Daisuke_IPFW> screen, huh
[04:46] <stdin> !screen
[04:46] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[04:46] <bobstro> stdin: aye, and you can leave sessions running when you exit!
[04:46] <Douglas> hi.. i got intel video in my laptop, i'd like to get the console into high-res mode. I did this with ati once, think it involved some framebuffer thing. any ideas?
[04:46] <Daisuke_IPFW> i'd rather not leave any sessions running
[04:46] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: definitely check it out if you want to launch stuff, come back to it later.
[04:46] <stdin> yep, then reattach from another location too :)
[04:46] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: you essentially background them. certainly not required.
[04:47] <Zoohouse> bobstro: ehhhh I guess you'r right... damn audio books....
[04:47] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: you just want remote shell, or to get out for other reasons?
[04:48] <bobstro> Zoohouse: DRM is evil. completely contrary to the whole "computing ethic". they want you to be a subscriber to listen.
[04:48] <Daisuke_IPFW> i was just looking for a remote shell
[04:48] <bobstro> Zoohouse: you can buy CD audiobooks and just rip them as an alternative. which DRM/audiobooks?
[04:48] <FJ_Sanchez> How can I speak with an Freenode admin?
[04:48] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: ah, ok. then i guess you're set already.
[04:48] <stdin> Zoohouse: only way to get rid of DRM (without using some illegal software) that I know of it burning the files to CD (as audio disk, not data disk), then re-rip them
[04:49] <Daisuke_IPFW> it's more or less just a workaround for the problem of not being able to connect to irc servers via the campus network
[04:49] <bobstro> Zoohouse: audible and others let you burn a cd.
[04:49] <Rebecca> Anyone here used a Logitech Quickcam Express with Kubuntu and if so, was it successful?
[04:49] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: ah, then set up a socks proxy with putty and you can use a pretty desktop gui irc client.
[04:49] <LeeJunFan> FJ_Sanchez: if you go to the freenode page in the FAQ section it mentions a channel - #staff possibly?
[04:49] <ForMatter> Bobstro,i want ask about shell programming to do ping with each computer in my network..
[04:49] <FJ_Sanchez> LeeJunFan: Thanks, I should check this page
[04:50] <bobstro> ForMatter: you just want to ping, or you want to do something depending on whether it responded?
[04:50] <Dr_willis> ForMatter,  you want to do exactly what - with pinging each computer?
[04:50] <stdin> FJ_Sanchez: join #freenode-social and ask for a staffer
[04:50] <Daisuke_IPFW> bobstro: i'll have to look into it, but i'm more or less okay with irssi
[04:50] <pooof> its kubuntu 7.10 estable?
[04:50] <Daisuke_IPFW> pooof: magic 8-ball says "try again in 6 months"
[04:50] <FJ_Sanchez> stdin: I tried this channel, but I cannot speak. no voice
[04:50] <bobstro> ForMatter: ping provides a return code, or you might want something else.
[04:50] <gnomefreak> pooof: hasnt been started yet. 7.04 is current rc
[04:50] <Zoohouse> bobstro: yea but audio books are expansive. I am trying to listen to the books on Librarynet.com. They use DRM as a way to check out econtent like a physical library.
[04:50] <VSpike> ForMatter: if you want to test which hosts are up, you could try nmap
[04:50] <stdin> FJ_Sanchez: wait a while, you'll get voice, or you can PM a staffer too
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> pooof: well, it's to be released in 2 days I think, so for all intents and purposes what I'm using now is final.
[04:51] <Dr_willis> So far im finding the beta/current version of Feisty to work fine
[04:51] <ForMatter> With shell progamming, i want make a script that can ping to other computer..
[04:51] <pooof> tnx
[04:51] <bobstro> Zoohouse: ah, not sure about those. hmm. get a player that has mic record and hold it up to the speakers? :)
[04:51] <FJ_Sanchez> stdin: How can I know who are staffers?
[04:51] <bobstro> Zoohouse: or use line-in.
[04:51] <stdin> FJ_Sanchez: look here http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff
[04:51] <Dr_willis> ForMatter,  ok.. and what else is this script to do?
[04:51] <FJ_Sanchez> There is no one OP
[04:51] <bobstro> ForMatter: you can just do the ping command in your script as others suggested earlier if that's all you want.
[04:52] <bobstro> ForMatter: or you can have it branch and do things depending on success/failure of ping.
[04:52] <stdin> FJ_Sanchez: /who freenode/staff/* will give you a list
[04:52] <Zoohouse> bobstro: haha yea :D
[04:52] <bobstro> ForMatter: you might want to use fping, since it's meant more for scripts.
[04:53] <VSpike> ForMatter: hate to say, but at least half the problem with programming is clearly defining and undertanding the problem/requirements
[04:53] <ForMatter> Bobstro : i want how to make a ping to other computer with shell script..And if it worked can display message with ourself..
[04:53] <Daisuke_IPFW> hmm
[04:53] <bobstro> VSpike: unless you're in marketing.
[04:53] <Dr_willis> ForMatter,  check out 'fping' then.
[04:53] <Dr_willis> !info fping
[04:53] <ubotu> fping: sends ICMP ECHO_REQUEST packets to network hosts. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4b2-to-ipv6-14 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 120 kB
[04:53] <Daisuke_IPFW> putty supports X11 forwarding, going to have to figure out how that works with windows.
[04:54] <VSpike> bobstro: true :) in which case, at least half the problem is the stupid programmers who get all mathy when you tell them what you promised the customer he could have next week
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  you need to use somthing like 'xming' to let X have some place to forward to. :)
[04:54] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: if you use the socks client capability, you can use any socks-aware app through your tunnel.
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  been doing that for months now.
[04:54] <stdin> Daisuke_IPFW: you need to install a X server for windows to get it working, I have done it before
[04:54] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: are computers at school win or linux?
[04:54] <Daisuke_IPFW> win
[04:54] <Daisuke_IPFW> home pc's linux
[04:55] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: x under windows is cool, but if you just want to use otherwise-blocked win apps, the socks proxy is perfect.
[04:55] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: think of it as poor-man's VPN via ssh.
[04:55] <Daisuke_IPFW> heh
[04:55] <ForMatter> Bobstro : i need the source shell script..
[04:55] <VSpike> I use xming + openssh + cygwin to remote access my main box from work (windows) laptop
[04:56] <livingdaylight> ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!
[04:56] <bobstro> ForMatter: check out the bash scripting guides Dr_willis suggested. there's a LOT to that topic that is not specific to ubuntu.
[04:56] <ForMatter> Bobstro : please..I need your help..
[04:57] <mikey> morning folks.  Is there any other file explorer to use than Konq?
[04:57] <bobstro> ForMatter: as VSpike said, please clearly state what exactly you want to do. otherwise, i can only suggest bash scripting guides.
[04:57] <Tm_T> mikey: yes, multiple, like Dolphin
[04:58] <Daisuke_IPFW> dolphin looks promising
[04:58] <Daisuke_IPFW> haven't tried it yet though
[04:58] <mikey> I'll have a look at that one, ty
[04:58] <mikey> konq seems a bit bloated for simply accessing drives and files
[04:58] <bobstro> ForMatter: try here for example - http://steve-parker.org/sh/exitcodes.shtml
[04:59] <Tm_T> mikey: depends, for me it's only "good" filebrowser, for lighter needs I have bash
[04:59] <mikey> Dolphin in standard repos?
[04:59] <Tm_T> !dolphin
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Tm_T> !info dolphin
[04:59] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB
[04:59] <mikey> bash is command line, yes?
[04:59] <Tm_T> mikey: yes
[05:00] <CapaH> To go from Ubuntu to Kubuntu one merely types: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   correct?
[05:00] <stdin> CapaH: yes
[05:02] <reydelsillon> H people. Ive recently switched over from xp to kubuntu. nice graphics :) - I got 2 hardisk instaled on the machine. a Sata disk and a Ide disk. for some reason i cant see the ide disk (that has a ntfs partition) when im using kubuntu. I thought kubuntu should automount all disk an partitions.
[05:03] <stdin> reydelsillon: what does "sudo fdisk -l" show ( in konsole), post it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:03] <stdin> l is a lowercase L
[05:04] <jhutchins> !ntfs | reydelsillon
[05:04] <ubotu> reydelsillon: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:04] <reydelsillon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16131/
[05:04] <kubuntu22> !fuse
[05:04] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:04] <Daisuke_IPFW> shouldn't the trigger for ntfs write access be !masochist ?
[05:05] <WillLuongo> Daisuke_IPFW: yes
[05:05] <stdin> reydelsillon: /dev/hdd1 is your NTFS partition
[05:05] <reydelsillon> i want it ofcourse to be read/write :)
[05:05] <stdin> reydelsillon: so follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse and use /dev/hdd1 for the partition
[05:06] <reydelsillon> yes is ee that. but why dont it apear as storage media?
[05:06] <stdin> reydelsillon: because it's not in /etc/fstab maybe
[05:06] <WillLuongo> reydelsillon: there is a .hidden file in / that you need to delete to see it in Konqueror.
[05:07] <stdin> nope
[05:07] <stdin> just edit it
[05:07] <stdin> don't delete it
[05:07] <Dr_willis> !hidden
[05:07] <ubotu> Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:07] <reydelsillon> im gonna read the guide first.
[05:07] <reydelsillon> I BE BACK!
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Its such a good feature its being removed! :)
[05:07] <WillLuongo> Dr_willis: too bad Microsoft won't do that.
[05:08] <stdin> hmm, that needs a 's/will be/has been/' soon
[05:09] <WillLuongo> stdin: /.hidden is symbolic link - we should probably not edit the link, but rather suggest users to remove symbolic link and replace it with empty /.hidden file or only list files they want have hidden. -- LukaRenko 2006-10-27 17:50:37
[05:09] <mikey> ntfs-3g unsafe?  Guess I should tread lightly I've ben using it a few weeks
[05:09] <reydelsillon>  ---- shoudl i enter this comand as it is? or does the line start with sudo?bash:~$ sudo modprobe fuse
[05:09] <stdin> WillLuongo: no, because the upgrade will remove the symlink, and if it's not there, dpkg has an error
[05:10] <Dr_willis> bash:~$  - is the example SHELL PROMPT.
[05:10] <WillLuongo> stdin: I see.
[05:10] <Dr_willis> the command is after the $
[05:10] <reydelsillon> ah ok.
[05:10] <JuJuBee> Someone help me with iptables?  Before vacation, I had a server running dansguardian squid and iptables working fine.  When I returned the server was off (power outage) and my students cannot access the internet.  iptables -L -v shows no rules set.
[05:10] <WillLuongo> Is it worth upgrading to feisty?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> WillLuongo,  if you need its features - yes. :) if you dont need any of its features.. i guess not.
[05:11] <JuJuBee> I had  ---  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
[05:11] <stdin> WillLuongo: I'd wait untill it comes out, just in case
[05:11] <JuJuBee> It does not seem to take now when I enter it.
[05:11] <WillLuongo> Dr_willis: other than the directory hidden feature, what has changed?
[05:12] <Dr_willis> WillLuongo,  about every thing has been updated to the latest versions. :)
[05:12] <stdin> and kernel 2.6.20 is faster than 2.6.17 (IMO)
[05:12] <Dr_willis> so.. i guess you could say about eveyrthing has changed..
[05:14] <reydelsillon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:14] <livingdaylight> Is Kubuntu rocking?
[05:14] <reydelsillon> i dont understand
[05:15] <kubuntu22> livingdaylight: yes
[05:15] <livingdaylight> whenever i mention Ubuntu+kde people tell me to use Mepis
[05:15] <bobstro> JuJuBee: did you have that in an init script?
[05:15] <Daisuke_IPFW> ...why in $DEITY's name would they do that?
[05:15] <reydelsillon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:15] <Daisuke_IPFW> i seriously doubt anyone here would have told you that.
[05:15] <JuJuBee> bobstro : no, how do I make the rules set at startup?
[05:15] <livingdaylight> is the new kde 3.5.5 really awesome?
[05:15] <bobstro> livingdaylight: i used meps a couple of years ago. it's fine, but i much prefer kubuntu.
[05:16] <Daisuke_IPFW> the "new" kde is 3.5.6, and it's nice.
[05:16] <reydelsillon> bad file.... here! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16134/
[05:16] <livingdaylight> bobstro: what makes you say that? I heard many times that Mepis does kde better
[05:16] <mikey> debian seems a bit faster than kubuntu.  Anyone have the same experience?
[05:16] <bobstro> JuJuBee: usually, you launch your firewall etc. in the initscripts at book. ubuntu comes with several programs that will help with this (e.g. firestarter).
[05:16] <livingdaylight> i've always used gnome and therefore ubuntu, but i might like to check out kde 3.5.5 see what is going on that is new
[05:17] <stdin> reydelsillon: you need to make the directory first "sudo mkdir /media/hdd1"
[05:17] <JuJuBee> I'm new to setting up a firewall, should I install firestarter on server?
[05:17] <bobstro> livingdaylight: kde, perhaps. the problem -- and again this was two years ago -- was that mepis wasn't "exactly debian", so i found things broke. same can be said for kubuntu, but MUCH BROADER support.
[05:17] <livingdaylight> Kubuntu is a bit of a secondary project at Canonical?
[05:17] <bobstro> JuJuBee: to be clear - you want to set up a NAT firewall for classroom machines, right?
[05:18] <reydelsillon> ah..... ther it is
[05:18] <bobstro> JuJuBee: you want to redirect them to a proxy?
[05:18] <JuJuBee> I simply want to redirect all port 80 traffic to go through Dandguardian and Squid.
[05:18] <JuJuBee> I want a transparent proxy.
[05:18] <reydelsillon> nice. now i need to have access to it. i have no permition to write/read on it.
[05:18] <stdin> livingdaylight: no, kubuntu = ((ubuntu-gnome)+kde). it's as official as ubuntu is
[05:18] <bobstro> JuJuBee: ah. there are howtos on that. i think what happened is that your iptables commands weren't in a script to be re-run at boot.
[05:19] <reydelsillon> and make the change permanent
[05:19] <mikey> works calls.  see all later.
[05:19] <reydelsillon> thats the fstab file, right? and use this comand? -/dev/hda1     /media/hda1    ntfs-fuse       auto,gid=1002,umask=0007       0       0
[05:19] <JuJuBee> bobstro : I think so too.  When I tried to enter the command, iptables still shows empty.
[05:19] <JuJuBee> I had  ---  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
[05:19] <JuJuBee> When I enter it now, still empty...
[05:20] <bobstro> JuJuBee: no errors then?
[05:20] <livingdaylight> Should Adept be immediately ditched and replaced in favour of Synaptic?
[05:20] <bobstro> JuJuBee: my iptables is rusty... but i thought port stuff wasn't in nat. lemme check.
[05:20] <JuJuBee> No errors.
[05:20] <livingdaylight> stdin: no way. Gnome is ubuntu's first love
[05:21] <JuJuBee> bobstro : all the how-to's say to use -t nat...
[05:21] <stdin> livingdaylight: and your point is?
[05:21] <Daisuke_IPFW> livingdaylight: no, adept should not be ditched
[05:21] <livingdaylight> stdin: that therefore more care goes into ubuntu
[05:21] <stdin> livingdaylight: nope
[05:21] <bobstro> JuJuBee: ok, it's been awhile. and you're doing iptables -nvL -t nat to view?
[05:22] <_Johny> Is anyone using his digital camera in Kubuntu?
[05:22] <stdin> livingdaylight: even mark uses kubunru
[05:22] <livingdaylight> Daisuke_IPFW: last time i used kubuntu everyone avoided adept, it was not as good as synaptic, has it been improved
[05:22] <Daisuke_IPFW> it's gotten a lot better
[05:22] <stdin> mark as in mark shuttleworth
[05:22] <JuJuBee> Ah, was doing iptables -L -v, without the -t nat.  There the little buggers are.
[05:22] <Daisuke_IPFW> especially with the feisty release
[05:22] <livingdaylight> stdin: is that true? or just a rumour?
[05:22] <bobstro> JuJuBee: ah, ok. good. sounds like it *is* being run then.
[05:22] <stdin> livingdaylight: he's said it in interviews
[05:22] <WillLuongo> I am experiencing unusually slow internet connection on my KUBuntu box. Other computers on the network seem unaffected. Any ideas?
[05:23] <livingdaylight> stdin: a long time ago.
[05:23] <stdin> WillLuongo: disable IPv6
[05:23] <bobstro> WillLuongo: no tor proxy?
[05:23] <stdin> livingdaylight: a week or two ago actually
[05:23] <livingdaylight> stdin: maybe he uses SuSE now
[05:23] <WillLuongo> stdin: how can I disable IPv6
[05:23] <stdin> !ipv6 | WillLuongo
[05:23] <ubotu> WillLuongo: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:23] <livingdaylight> stdin: oh, i didn't read that interview, you know where?
[05:24] <reydelsillon> what is the comand for editing fstab?
[05:24] <stdin> livingdaylight: it was a podcast interview, on the linux-action-show, http://www.linuxactionshow.com/?p=100
[05:24] <reydelsillon> i dont know where its located.
[05:25] <stdin> reydelsillon: (easiest way): kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[05:25] <bobstro> stdin: is that a decent podcast?
[05:25] <bobstro> stdin: i've got too many linux shows already but always can replace a dud.
[05:26] <reydelsillon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16135/
[05:26] <stdin> bobstro: yeah, it's quite a good one, one of the few I regularly listen to
[05:26] <JuJuBee> bobstro : so now that it is in the iptables, I should be able to view the log with tail -f /var/log/squid/access.log , but nothing shows when I try to browse from a student workstation...
[05:26] <bobstro> stdin: thanks, adding it tomy list.
[05:26] <bobstro> JuJuBee: nothing shows, as in it fails?
[05:26] <livingdaylight> stdin: thanks amigo
[05:26] <stdin> :)
[05:27] <JuJuBee> bobstro : cannot browse from student computer and nothing show sin the log...
[05:27] <WillLuongo> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16136/
[05:27] <WillLuongo> stdin: any ideas?
[05:28] <bobstro> JuJuBee: hmm. ok, that command looks like it just changes the dport, but again i'm rusty with iptables. everything's ok with squid?
[05:28] <stdin> WillLuongo: that's the standard wacom errors, nothing to worry about. you can get rid of them if you want
[05:28] <stdin> !baddevice
[05:28] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[05:28] <JuJuBee> I think so...  How can I check?
[05:28] <bobstro> JuJuBee: *anything* in logs?
[05:28] <reydelsillon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16135/
[05:29] <bobstro> JuJuBee: make sure htey're running etc.
[05:29] <stdin> reydelsillon: yeah, logout of the root session, just type "exit"
[05:29] <JuJuBee> DG and Squid are running.
[05:30] <bobstro> JuJuBee: hmm. i'm looking at this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320733
[05:31] <bobstro> JuJuBee: there is a note about transparent mode broken in edgy. have you upgraded recently?
[05:31] <JuJuBee> Using Feisty
[05:33] <bobstro> JuJuBee: did you use a howto when setting it up? also, has it worked since you went to feisty (if you upgraded)?
[05:34] <bobstro> JuJuBee: there are a lot of variations in how it can be set up.
[05:34] <JuJuBee> Yes, used a how-to and yes it did work.  only thing that changed was power outage.
[05:34] <bobstro> JuJuBee: ok. which howto?
[05:34] <JuJuBee> Several, Ones from ubuntuforums, and others...
[05:35] <bobstro> JuJuBee: the power outage makes me think an init script isn't getting run, but it sounds like at least your iptables setup ran.
[05:36] <WillLuongo> brb
[05:36] <wienczny_> hi
[05:37] <wienczny_> Where can I configure the items shown in the kde-logout screen?
[05:38] <bobstro> JuJuBee: i had expected to see a destination IP in that iptables command but that probably varies by setup.
[05:38] <reydelsillon> what does this mean? root@tulkas-desktop:~# sudo mount -a
[05:38] <reydelsillon> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[05:38] <JuJuBee> bobstro : funny thing is that I can browse to an internal webserver, just not outside the classroom.
[05:38] <bobstro> JuJuBee: it looks to me like that iptables command is re-writing the destination PORT but not the IP.
[05:38] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found anyone know how to fix this?
[05:38] <stdin> reydelsillon: just add an empty new line to the end of /etc/fstab
[05:38] <bobstro> JuJuBee: are all the outside access requests going through your linux box?
[05:39] <JuJuBee> Yes, all requests...
[05:39] <JuJuBee> I am hijacking port 80 traffic and filtering it.
[05:39] <bobstro> JuJuBee: again, looks like dest port is being re-written, but *not* redirecting to the proxy IP. not knowing your setup, i'm speculating here.
[05:39] <bobstro> JuJuBee: well, you're definitely re-writing the dest port.
[05:39] <reydelsillon> ok its passed.
[05:39] <reydelsillon> thanks
[05:40] <reydelsillon> i double click at the hdd icon and get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd1
[05:40] <bobstro> JuJuBee: i'd have expected it to also specificy the proxy IP address in the re-write. looking at that, i suspect a tcpdump on the outside would show the request going to destination in URL but with dest port 8080.
[05:41] <Rebecca> is there an option for setting up a software based, 2 drive striped raid array when installing?
[05:41] <JuJuBee> bobstro : sorry, you lost me...
[05:41] <wienczny_> I would like to forbid some users to do a shutdown from the kde-logout dialog. how can I do that?
[05:41] <bobstro> JuJuBee: your iptables command doesnt' specify a destination IP, just a port to re-write.
[05:42] <JuJuBee> corret, but port 8080 is dansquardian.
[05:42] <bobstro> JuJuBee: but on what machine?
[05:42] <JuJuBee> Same.
[05:42] <bobstro> JuJuBee: and what is telling NAT that?
[05:42] <JuJuBee> dg, squid, iptables all on same machine.
[05:42] <bobstro> JuJuBee: sorry, not trying to confuse.
[05:43] <WillLuongo> I removed the wacom and ipv6 and reset. Now I don't have graphical login (KDM/
[05:43] <bobstro> JuJuBee: but... that nat command appears to re-write ONLY the dest port.
[05:43] <WillLuongo> and I can't startx
[05:43] <reydelsillon> must i had this piece to the fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138/  i dont have nvidia........
[05:43] <bobstro> JuJuBee: in other words, was there a 2nd iptables command perhaps?'
[05:43] <JuJuBee> No, I only had the one.
[05:44] <bobstro> JuJuBee: is eth0 your INSIDE or OUTSIDE interface?
[05:44] <_Johny> The problem is, when I switch to another session, or try to lock one my screen goes black, everything hangs and the unique solution is to reboot the machine..
[05:44] <_Johny> I'm using 2.6.17-11-generic kernel and running Kubuntu edgy 6.10 with fglrx drivers
[05:45] <bobstro> JuJuBee: for example, in http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-setup-transparent-proxy-squid-howto.html they show "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp dport 80 -j DNAT to 192.168.1.1:3128" (note the dest ip) for the INSIDE interface.
[05:45] <JuJuBee> Currently both until I receive another ethernet card.
[05:45] <maki> i have problem with alsa
[05:45] <reydelsillon> i double click at the hdd icon and get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd1
[05:45] <reydelsillon> must i had this piece to the fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138/  i dont have nvidia........
[05:45] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: cat you post the end of /var/log/Xorg.log to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:46] <maki> arecord
[05:46] <maki> ALSA lib pcm_dsnoop.c:558:(snd_pcm_dsnoop_open) unable to open slave
[05:46] <maki> arecord: main:550: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[05:46] <JuJuBee> bobstro : yes.  some how-to's use -DNAT and others do not.  The one I followed did not and it worked.  AT lease it worked last week.
[05:46] <bobstro> JuJuBee: er, wait. is this linux box a router to the outside?
[05:46] <lyam> where can i set path to java in firefox? it seems firefox cant find it
[05:46] <WillLuongo> wienczny: I am not on the KUbuntu computer. Is there a way to do that from a terminal?
[05:47] <bobstro> JuJuBee: this one DOES use DNAT though - "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp dport 80 -j DNAT to 192.168.1.1:3128" (what you wrote earlier).
[05:47] <bobstro> er wups
[05:47] <bobstro> wrong paste, sorry
[05:47] <JuJuBee> bobstro : not exactly.  It is attached to my wifi router (switch on back).  All workstations are using wireless.
[05:47] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: mmh. should be.
[05:47] <JuJuBee> No, I did not use DNAT.
[05:47] <HymnToLife> WillLuongo, not on the Ubuntu pastebin (that I know of) but you could always put it somewhere else
[05:47] <JuJuBee> --to-port 8080
[05:47] <jhutchins> WillLuongo:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:47] <bobstro> JuJuBee: yeah, my bad.
[05:48] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: Are you accessing the system vi ssh or telnet?
[05:48] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: I am sitting at a computer next to the one with Kubuntu
[05:48] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: so I am directly logged in, with no GUI
[05:49] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: Ok, so ... were you asking how to get the X.0.log info to the pastebin?
[05:49] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: From the terminal, yes.
[05:49] <jhutchins> try less +G /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:49] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: do you have ssh etc. running on the ubuntu-machine? then you could copy it over and past from the win machine...
[05:50] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: I do not know
[05:50] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: You should be able to copy text from the terminal and paste it to the pastebin.
[05:50] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: how do I get to pastebin with no web browser?
[05:51] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: Oh. So the computer you're on is not actually logged in to the linux box.
[05:51] <reydelsillon> i double click at the hdd icon and get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd1
[05:51] <reydelsillon> must i had this piece to the fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138/  i dont have nvidia........
[05:51] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: correct.
[05:51] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: enter the command lynx, see if it does anything.
[05:51] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: I am using my windows box to ask for help with my broken Kubuntu box. :D
[05:51] <WillLuongo> lynx?
[05:51] <WillLuongo> ok
[05:51] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: get winscp or putty an login to the ubuntu-machine.
[05:51] <bobstro> JuJuBee: well, without knowing more details, all i can suggest is looking at that iptables command. i just entered it, and it re-writes the ports but not the destination ip.
[05:52] <bobstro> JuJuBee: also if that machine is not the gateway, do you need to set up browsers to use it as a proxy?
[05:52] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: nope
[05:53] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: Do I need to do anythign to turn on ssh?
[05:53] <JuJuBee> That machine is currently set as teh gateway for the computers
[05:53] <bobstro> JuJuBee: again, a lot varies depending on how you set it up. sorry i can't help more.
[05:53] <wienczny_> I'm not sure if ssh is installed by default...
[05:53] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: You may need to do /etc/init.d/ssh start
[05:53] <jhutchins> wienczny_: Installed but not active iirc.
[05:54] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: it says no such file or directory.
[05:54] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: can I apt-get?
[05:54] <wienczny_> jhutchins: openssh-server ist installed?
[05:54] <jhutchins> You can also install telnetd.
[05:55] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: Yes.  If you don't have an ssh client on your windows box, install telnetd instead.
[05:55] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: I have ssh client, but no server on Kubuntu it appears
[05:55] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: aptitude install openssh-server should do that
[05:56] <jhutchins> Not sure telnetd actually does anything useful, glad you have ssh.
[05:58] <reydelsillon> stdin: you here?
[05:59] <stdin> reydelsillon: for a couple mins, yeah
[05:59] <Sharketor> hello all
[05:59] <reydelsillon> i got stuck.
[05:59] <reydelsillon> i double click at the hdd icon and get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd1
[05:59] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: Do I need to do any configuration?
[05:59] <reydelsillon> must i had this piece to the fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138/  i dont have nvidia........
[06:00] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: it should work out of the box
[06:00] <stdin> reydelsillon: just have the "fuse" part, not the rest
[06:00] <stdin> reydelsillon: and show what "ls -ld /media/hdd1" shows
[06:01] <dwidmann> !!!!!
[06:01] <dwidmann> Crap, not again!
[06:01] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: is a sshd process running?
[06:01] <reydelsillon> stdin: i added fuse to the last line.
[06:02] <reydelsillon> i still get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd1
[06:02] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: how can I find out? When I tell it to start it says open fail
[06:02] <stdin> reydelsillon: show what "ls -ld /media/hdd1" shows
[06:02] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: ps aux | grep sshd should give two results
[06:02] <dwidmann> Seems the Nvidia-glx module is broken yet again :( And right on top of release day too
[06:03] <FrozenPlasma> Hello! I just installed Kubuntu 7 without problems - but when i try to boot into kubuntu nothing happens. I can choose the OS in grub an after the black screen with the kubuntu logo appears...but nothing else. Do I have to type sth. before startig? I rememeber sth. like "aspi ??!"?
[06:03] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: yes it does
[06:03] <reydelsillon> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16141/
[06:03] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: one line ending in /usr/sbin/sshd? Then its running and you should be able to connect
[06:04] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: yes
[06:04] <dwidmann> FrozenPlasma: try pressing "Ctrl + alt + F2" and it should give you a terminal, you hope.
[06:04] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: is there a way I can double check my IP?
[06:05] <stdin> reydelsillon: did you add "fuse" to /etc/fstab or /etc/modules ?
[06:05] <hegemon_> hello. I ve got some problems with adept ;/ Can you help me or redirect somewhere else where somebody can help me?
[06:05] <FrozenPlasma> dwidmann: and then?
[06:05] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: ip addr show
[06:05] <reydelsillon> i addes only the line "fuse" to the end of fstab
[06:05] <dwidmann> FrozenPlasma: and then log in, type "startx", and see what error you're getting, supposing you're getting an error when trying to start x
[06:05] <stdin> reydelsillon: no, add it to the end of /etc/modules, not fstab
[06:05] <_Johny> Can "katapult" open a whole album in Amarok?
[06:05] <reydelsillon> ahhhhh ok.
[06:05] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: there ist an entry for eth0 or any other device you are using. there should be a line with your ip
[06:06] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: I am in. Turns out I had the wrong IP
[06:06] <FrozenPlasma> ok - i'll try. see you in a few minutes :)
[06:06] <stdin> reydelsillon: then show me the line you added to fatab (the one with /dev/hdd1 on it)
[06:07] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: Then just get the contents of the Xorg.0.log and paste it
[06:08] <bobstro> JuJuBee: one last try. do you see rule being hit when you view iptables?
[06:08] <hegemon_> My adept manager won't start. it complains taht some other process is using dbase but i killed all apt and adept related processes. What should I do?
[06:08] <reydelsillon> "fuse" was already in the etc/modules file - i deleted "fuse" from fstab - here is the line : /dev/hdd1     /media/hdd1    ntfs-fuse       auto,gid=1001,umask=0007       0       0
[06:08] <stdin> !aptfix | hegemon_
[06:08] <ubotu> hegemon_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:09] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16142/
[06:10] <hegemon_> ubotu: thanks it worked
[06:10] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: Thats all?
[06:11] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: That's all the stuff at the end.
[06:11] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: Do you want the whole thing?
[06:11] <reydelsillon> stdin: "fuse" was already in the etc/modules file - i deleted "fuse" from fstab - here is the line : /dev/hdd1     /media/hdd1    ntfs-fuse       auto,gid=1001,umask=0007       0       0    ---- look here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16143/
[06:12] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: yeah. Those lines are just warnings that should not kill your XServer
[06:12] <stdin> reydelsillon: try "sudo umount /dev/hdd1", then do "sudo mount -a"
[06:13] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16144/
[06:13] <WillLuongo> Whoop
[06:13] <reydelsillon> root@tulkas-desktop:~# sudo mount -a
[06:13] <reydelsillon> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'
[06:13] <WillLuongo> I think I see it
[06:13] <RealisticDragon> woo, i have flash working on PPC with kubuntu :)
[06:13] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: Ah. could you post your xorg.conf plz?
[06:13] <eagles0513875> WillLuongo: the nvidia driver broke my x
[06:13] <eagles0513875> im back in default config
[06:14] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: That happened to me too. Can you still log in with KDM?
[06:14] <TonyTone17> can anyone help me, i am tryin to boot kubuntu 6.10 and it always freezes saying /dev/hdc errors
[06:14] <eagles0513875> nope cant get a login screen nothing
[06:14] <reydelsillon> stdin: root@tulkas-desktop:~# sudo mount -a
[06:14] <reydelsillon> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'
[06:15] <wienczny_> WillLuongo. I think when you deleted the wacom section you did not remove all references.
[06:15] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: I think so too. I am working on it now.
[06:15] <stdin> reydelsillon: hmm
[06:16] <stdin> reydelsillon: did you install ntfsprogs ?
[06:17] <reydelsillon> not that i know of.
[06:17] <stdin> reydelsillon: the 1st instruction on the page "sudo apt-get install libfuse2 ntfsprogs fuse-utils"
[06:18] <reydelsillon> omg. ofcourse. i didnt get that error so i did not do it a couple of mins ago.
[06:18] <reydelsillon> lets see
[06:19] <JuJuBee> how do I reload iptables after I make changes/additions ?
[06:19] <TonyTone17> can anyone help me, i am tryin to boot kubuntu 6.10 and it always freezes saying /dev/hdc errors
[06:20] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: it is not letting me su nano xorg.conf any ideas?
[06:20] <reydelsillon> stdin. i can access the disk now.
[06:20] <stdin> :)
[06:21] <reydelsillon> what is starnge theres no files or folders inside.
[06:21] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: try sudo instead of su ;-)
[06:22] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: OH! LOL
[06:22] <reydelsillon> stdin: i booted kubuntu and plugged the hardisk and the got into irc and start asking. its no way the data is not there.
[06:22] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: I knew that too...
[06:22] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: I am back in action now. thank you so much for your time.
[06:23] <reydelsillon> im gonna do a quick check from windows ..... /me prays to all gods.
[06:23] <stdin> reydelsillon: I don't know about that, I don't have a ntfs partition to test
[06:23] <wienczny_> WillLuongo. np
[06:23] <acidBURN> is there a way to setup konqueror browser to use firefox extentsion
[06:24] <wienczny_> acidBURN: You could start rewriting konqueror...
[06:24] <jbruckman> so, i tried reconfiguring the xserver, and I'm still where I was. I am using feisty fawn, and since I installed the restricted nvidia drivers, my display hasn't been able to go above 640x800
[06:25] <acidBURN> sure I could.... let me see where my basic disk...
[06:25] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: So you get to a black screen to login?
[06:25] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: when you try startx what happens?
[06:26] <dwidmann> jbruckman: the nvidia driver seems to be givnig all sorts of trouble in feisty atm. I personally am going to roll back to kernel 2.6.20-13 (with related packages too)
[06:26] <jbruckman> dwidmann: sigh... okay. are they working on it, do you know?
[06:26] <wienczny_> acidBURN: konqueror is completly different to firefox. firefox ist build on XUL and gecko. konqueror uses qt4. You don't have a chance to get a firefox extension to run on konqueror
[06:26] <underdog5004> I just downloaded a .run file. how can I use it? It's a game installer, btw.
[06:27] <eagles0513875> no screen whatso ever just a curso blinking and that is it
[06:27] <dwidmann> jbruckman: not sure
[06:27] <TonyTone17> can anyone help me? i am having errors while tryin to boot the kubuntu 6.10 - it freezes giving i/o errors on dev/hdc
[06:27] <acidBURN> that the kicker... konqueror is great... however... it lacks in the browser dept.
[06:27] <jbruckman> wienczny_: you do if you reverse engineer it and recode it. :-p
[06:27] <acidBURN> for the web
[06:27] <eagles0513875> brb
[06:27] <intelikey> underdog5004 sh file.run
[06:27] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: ok
[06:27] <underdog5004> thanks, intelikey
[06:27] <TonyTone17> .run file is a superzip archive
[06:27] <underdog5004> it's working!!
[06:27] <dwidmann> I just commented on a potentially related bug report. It might be it, and if it is there might be a fix (whether it will make feisty or not I don't know)
[06:27] <acidBURN> wienczny: firefox has it over konqueror for the web.
[06:27] <stanley> hi guys...how can i get the latest version of firefox using apt get??
[06:28] <stanley> i kno there is a wiki that shows u how to do so
[06:28] <jbruckman> i'll talk to my buddy. he's on the dev team.
[06:28] <acidBURN> wienczny: however, konqueror is a great desktop browser...
[06:29] <underdog5004> http://icculus.org/~ravage/ <-- Linux games and game add-ons
[06:29] <wienczny_> acidBURN: both browser are great. just take that one that fits best
[06:30] <acidBURN> I was trying to stay with one....
[06:30] <jbruckman> lol
[06:30] <acidBURN> but it would appear.....its not the case
[06:30] <eagles0513875> WillLuongo: got it to work with the nvidia driver from nvidia i just didnt start the x server
[06:30] <acidBURN> I feel konqueror could be made better.... ( ie my explorer)
[06:31] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: So it is working correctly now?
[06:31] <wienczny_> acidBURN: It would be great if firefox and konqueror could share configuration and bookmarks. Or something like a konqueror tab in firefox would be cool
[06:31] <jbruckman> i'm going to try editing the xorg.conf file to see if i can fix my resolution problem
[06:31] <Krafa> hola
[06:31] <Krafa> algun espaol?
[06:31] <intelikey> acidBURN ?    konq would be better if more like explorer ?    or konq is too much like explorer ?
[06:31] <eagles0513875> yes it is
[06:32] <acidBURN> wienczny: and social bookmarking...
[06:32] <acidBURN> wienczny: want konq, better than MS explorer.... much better
[06:33] <acidBURN> find out that I could open a term in konq, while surfing..
[06:35] <stanley> hi um...i'm tryna get the most recent version of firefox
[06:35] <stanley> can someone point me in the right direction
[06:35] <intelikey> imo.  most people that compare konq and ff and dis on konq have not actually used konq very much and have not explored it's functionality and potential.
[06:35] <dwidmann> I'll be right back ... going to see if I've got all the 2.6.20-13 stuff I need to stick with it
[06:36] <intelikey> !ff | stanley
[06:36] <ubotu> stanley: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:36] <plbgnr> hello, does anybody use partition image ? it wants to create /dev/dm inode after start, but it looks like  nothing is happening when I choose 'Yes' as answer to " Do you want this inode to be created for you now ?"
[06:37] <plbgnr> ...I use dapper...
[06:37] <stanley> aright
[06:37] <stanley> thanx ubotu
[06:37] <intelikey> !thanks | stanley
[06:37] <charlesHKG> how can I setup grub to allow me to choose between booting to kubuntu on my towers HDD and my USB HDD???
[06:37] <ubotu> stanley: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:38] <stanley> haha
[06:38] <intelikey> charlesHKG edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:38] <hugeta> hi where java dev use in kubuntu cause to many choise in adept anyone can help me
[06:38] <intelikey> !grub | charlesHKG
[06:38] <ubotu> charlesHKG: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:39] <hugeta> hi anybody home
[06:39] <hugeta> i need some help
[06:39] <charlesHKG> ok....thanks
[06:40] <WillLuongo> hugeta: What is up?
[06:40] <hugeta> hi bro  what the name java dev if i want to install java
[06:40] <intelikey> and that assumes that your box can boot the usb device from bios.
[06:40] <eagles0513875> what pkg do i have to download to enable mp3 support in amarok
[06:40] <hugeta> cause to many choice in adept
[06:41] <WillLuongo> hugeta: are you trying to install a java plugin for your browser?
[06:41] <hugeta> not i want instal java development enviroment for programing
[06:42] <hugeta> sooryy i'm tottaly new in ubuntu
[06:42] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: It should prompt you to automically install them when you try to play an mp3
[06:42] <hugeta> he he he he he he h
[06:43] <eagles0513875> but it freezes
[06:43] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: It was waiting for me to put in the superuser password, I think. I got it through that.
[06:43] <Darthweda> hi
[06:43] <intelikey> !java
[06:43] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:43] <WillLuongo> hugeta: You might like eclipse
[06:43] <eagles0513875> im using feisty i dont know whether its buggy in feisty
[06:44] <Darthweda> how i change the server?
[06:44] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: I don't know in Feisty either, I still use Edgy, sorry.
[06:44] <hugeta> eclipse what.... i never heard before cause im to loong in mars
[06:45] <intelikey> Darthweda which server ?
[06:45] <Darthweda> gamesurge
[06:45] <WillLuongo> hugeta: if you use adept you can filter out just eclipse stuff
[06:45] <WillLuongo> hugeta: it is a java IDE
[06:45] <intelikey> Darthweda mmm sorry dik
[06:45] <intelikey> idk
[06:46] <Darthweda> ^
[06:46] <hugeta> i ussualy use vb 6.0 for desktop programing and java too
[06:47] <Darthweda> k
[06:47] <Darthweda> cu
[06:47] <WillLuongo> hugeta: I guess I don't know what you are asking...
[06:48] <Shalaptop1> someone know what i can use for my server for everyoen can upload picture, sorta like photobucket or imagehack, but wihtout need to log on or something ? just a simple thingy for uplaod shit ?
[06:48] <Shalaptop1> i use kubuntu with apache <.<
[06:48] <Shalaptop1> server lamp D:
[06:48] <intelikey> WillLuongo i think he's asking what packages he'll need to do java development in linux ...    not sure either.
[06:50] <intelikey> Shalaptop1 ftpd ?
[06:50] <tdn> Opening new SSH connections is very slow on my machines. Do you have any idea what can cause this? It seems like it waits for something. DNS maybe? strace available here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=496
[06:50] <Shalaptop1> i don't know how to use ftpd <.<
[06:50] <dwidmann> I guess that was a no-go :( Looks like I'm stuck with VESA for a while
[06:51] <Shalaptop1> but i mean by website, not ftp anyway D:
[06:51] <hugeta> i ussualy use vb 6.0 for develop some desktop application like trading app,...and etc
[06:51] <intelikey> Shalaptop1 ah   yeah  some part/s of  LAMP
[06:51] <intelikey> !lamp | Shalaptop1
[06:51] <ubotu> Shalaptop1: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:52] <intelikey> but i don't know anything about networking/webservers
[06:52] <WillLuongo> hugeta: Eclipse is similar to VB 6 but for Java in Linux.
[06:52] <Shalaptop1> ubotu: i installed a server lamp who work good, but now i want use it for ppl can upload picture on it by the web browser
[06:54] <Shalaptop1> !linux | intelikey
[06:54] <ubotu> intelikey: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[06:54] <Shalaptop1> lmao
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[06:54] <hugeta> he he he he that what i need bro.....
[06:54] <intelikey> Shalaptop1 np.   #apache   or  ##linux   might be a good place to ask....
[06:55] <hugeta> maybe  u can help me what the name pacnkage enclipse in adept
[06:55] <fyrmedic> So I have seen a lot of people talking about how good beryl is. So I installed it, but I can't seem to get it to work. Any suggestions?
[06:56] <WillLuongo> hugeta: you can either use adept to get it or you can copy and paste this in a console apt-get install eclipse
[06:56] <fyrmedic> !beryl
[06:56] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:56] <intelikey> eclipse - Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE
[06:57] <jhutchins> fyrmedic: That's about how it goes.  Works for some people who have the right cards and settings, doesn't for many.
[06:58] <fyrmedic> jhutchins: ok, I'll try working through it. I am in a couple of forums reading up. Thanks. You think it is worth the time?
[06:58] <jhutchins> fyrmedic: How big is your monitor?
[06:58] <hugeta> ok got it thank a lot bro
[06:59] <fyrmedic> jhutchins: 15" notebook
[06:59] <WillLuongo> hugeta: No problem
[07:00] <jhutchins> fyrmedic: No.  You won't be happy with it, you need at least a 19".  It may be amusing to see the screen effects, but I doubt if you'll want to work in it.  Also, laptop hardare is notoriously difficult to deal with to begin with.
[07:00] <jhutchins> fyrmedic: These new "3D" desktops are most useful if you often have multiple windows on the screen.  If you usually have your top window maximized, they won't do much for you.
[07:01] <fyrmedic> jhutchins; ok I think I am out on it based on that.
[07:02] <Sanne> hi
[07:02] <Kamui> anyone have any suggestions for using kubuntu on my tablet pc?
[07:03] <fyrmedic> jhutchins; thanks for your time.
[07:05] <eagles0513875> is ntfs-3g compatible with a 64 bit os reason i ask is that it locks up my system when im on my windows partition and i cant log in
[07:08] <zouzou85> hi guys, how do i delete a repo source using a terminal?
[07:08] <vinces1979> zouzou85: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:09] <zouzou85> thanx
[07:09] <vinces1979> np
[07:12] <luca> hi everyone
[07:12] <WillLuongo> hi luca
[07:13] <luca> does anybody here own a Dell Inspiron6400 with nvidia card?
[07:13] <luca> hi WillLuongo
[07:13] <wolferine> luca, why, having issues with it?
[07:14] <laervian10> wolferine nope I wanna buy one and I'd like to know if there are any problems with the hardware :D
[07:14] <wolferine> ah, google would probably be a MUCH better place for that
[07:16] <judgen> hmm that was unpleaseant
[07:16] <laervian10> wolferine maybe but it also takes quite longer :D
[07:16] <judgen> i tried gnome again =P
[07:16] <hak5fan> Hi. I reinstalled recently and have to recopile my kernel. I've done it before, but now I can't get to the configuration screen, make menuconfig gives me errors: I followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560  herer are the error messages http://p.rc6.org/index.php?id=7cf17b882d
[07:17] <hak5fan> what's wrong
[07:17] <hugeta> who knows gambas
[07:18] <acme> dfg
[07:18] <dany_21> hak5fan: "curses.h: No such file or directory" install some packages starting with "libcurses...-dev"
[07:18] <dany_21> hak5fan: or "ncurses".. or somwthing like that
[07:18] <balaji> can anone help me in configuring a huawei modem in kubuntu?
[07:19] <balaji> EC325?
[07:19] <dany_21> hak5fan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=curses.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386
[07:19] <hak5fan> dany_21: I'll give it a try
[07:22] <balaji> can anyone pls help?
[07:22] <hak5fan> dany_21: It worked
[07:23] <hak5fan> dany_21: Thank you
[07:23] <dany_21> hak5fan: np
[07:24] <hugeta> ada anak indonesia enggak ya
[07:25] <qsu> guys i have a 256 mb memeroy usb stick and i want to put kubuntu on it, is that possible and where do i find good docs
[07:26] <balaji> with 256 i dont think u can install kubuntu
[07:27] <judgen> balaji: he could make a minimal ubuntu livecd with only kde-core on. Will not have much functionality though unless you have internet
[07:27] <hugeta> how many mb for install kubuntu in memery stick
[07:27] <qsu> i have another usb stick with 128 mb maybe i could combine them
[07:28] <judgen> hugeta: for base+xserver+kde-core 242 base+xserver+kde-base~420 and base+xserver+kde even bigger
[07:29] <judgen> qsu: you can just put the needed base install in the small one and the debs for the apps you need on the other usb stick
[07:29] <kubuntu22> Bet this place is going to be busy come this thursday :)
[07:29] <qsu> oke, and where can i find good docs to do this
[07:29] <judgen> kubuntu22: probably
[07:29] <judgen> qsu: wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:36] <psb154> is it worth downloading the beta now and using the apt update facility to get the latest changes after release?
[07:38] <apokryphos> psb154: well the release candidate is out now, even
[07:38] <Briareos_> how can i check when a specific username was used/online the last time?
[07:38] <apokryphos> Briareos_: /msg nickserv info username
[07:39] <Briareos_> thanks
[07:42] <unix_infidel> do we have an rc yet?
[07:42] <unix_infidel> its 2 days till final release.
[07:42] <unix_infidel> and i believe yesterday was when some select people already got some isos.
[07:49] <jermain> hi everyone
[07:49] <jermain> I need help: my scanner isnt recognized by Kooka even though i installed SANE
[07:49] <jermain> does anyone know what to do?
[07:49] <sparrw> why might audio being played from a CD be going through the Master Mono channel on my sound card (as reported by alsamixer and kmix)?
[07:50] <silicium> hi :) this is just a test :>
[07:50] <BishiNightBird> ok?
[07:50] <Gtwy> anyone with a laptop with 1280x800 check this out: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/53434721/ might work with your theme, might not
[07:52] <psb154> jermain, is your scanner a usb scanner?
[07:52] <Exal> anyone know how I can install kubuntu with no graphics?
[07:52] <Exal> which command
[07:52] <jermain> psb154 yes it is
ok i didnt know that  iam sorry probably this should suffice
[07:52] <jermain> kooka keeps telling me my system doesnt provide a SANE installation
[07:52] <psb154> jermain, you need to copy a file from the installation CD (windows) and edit a file.
[07:53] <jermain> oh
[07:53] <jermain> sane is an emulation program?
[07:53] <psb154> I can prolly talk  you through it but do you have the CD?
[07:53] <jermain> gimme some time to look for it
[07:53] <jermain> :)
[07:53] <psb154> k
[07:54] <jermain> got it
[07:54] <psb154> good
[07:55] <jermain> its in the cd rom now :)
[07:55] <psb154> lets install xsane first ok, sudo apt-get install xsane
[07:55] <jermain> k
[07:56] <jermain> its installing now
[07:56] <jermain> done
[07:56] <psb154> excellent :-)
[07:56] <jermain> :) i feel so pro
[07:56] <psb154> look on the cd and find a .bin file.
[07:57] <psb154> the .bin file will look something like snape25.bin for example
[07:57] <jermain> eep,.. i see no content on the cd
[07:57] <psb154> sudo mount /media/cdrom
[07:58] <jermain> command not found -.-
[07:58] <psb154> or mount /media/cd    and then press the tab key
[07:58] <psb154> mount
[07:58] <jermain> but the gui opened /media/cdrom0
[07:58] <psb154> good oh
[07:59] <psb154> mount /media/cdrom0     wot does that do?
[07:59] <jermain> i tried mounting the cdrom0 but i got
[07:59] <jermain> jermain@jermain:/media$ mount /media/cdrom0
[07:59] <jermain> mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
[07:59] <jermain> mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[07:59] <jermain> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdd is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[07:59] <psb154> fine no problem
[07:59] <jermain> cool
[08:00] <psb154> now: cd /media/cdrom0
[08:00] <jermain> done
[08:00] <jermain> :)
[08:00] <jermain> oooh
[08:00] <psb154> now: find / -name *.bin
[08:00] <jermain> if i do ls
[08:00] <jermain> i can see the content!
[08:00] <jermain> oh okay
[08:01] <jermain> :)
[08:01] <gioacchino> hello' all
[08:01] <gioacchino> I have a problem with firefox
[08:01] <jermain> i think i should have piped it to less..
[08:01] <jermain> hi gio
[08:01] <gioacchino> I can't use pdf stamp
[08:02] <PhinnFort> gioacchino: who hasn't?
[08:02] <psb154> jermain... sorry mate that should have been: find /media/cdrom0 -name *.bin
[08:02] <psb154> jermain ctrl + c
[08:02] <gioacchino> when I try to stamp a file with firefox I have only 3 possibility
[08:02] <jermain> :)
[08:02] <gioacchino> PhinnFort: when I try to stamp a file with firefox I have only 3 possibility
[08:02] <jermain> ah thats better
[08:02] <jermain> :p
[08:03] <jermain> got 7 results
[08:03] <psb154> tell me...
[08:03] <jermain> I'll paste them, 1 sec
[08:03] <gioacchino> but If I go on my Kcontrol I have 6 printer
[08:03] <psb154> you might get flamed if you paste here
[08:03] <gioacchino> PhinnFort:  but If I go on my Kcontrol I have 6 printer
[08:03] <jermain> 7 lines
[08:04] <jermain> its a forgivable sin right?
[08:04] <jermain> :o
[08:04] <psb154> jermain what is your scanner called, brand and model
[08:04] <jermain> epson perfection 3940
[08:04] <psb154> na they get right miffed :-)
[08:04] <jermain> ^^
[08:04] <psb154> ok does one of the file names look like the model number?
[08:05] <gioacchino> PhinnFort:  pn firefox I have laserjet (my hardware printer) , default( this is equal to laserjet), print on file (this prin in a PS file)
[08:05] <jermain> ope, but one is called scanassistant, might that be it?
[08:05] <PhinnFort> gioacchino: sorry, I don't use Firefox
[08:05] <PhinnFort> gioacchino: tried Konqueror or Opera?
[08:05] <gioacchino> :|
[08:05] <PhinnFort> ;)
[08:05] <psb154> jermain, can you copy and paste all the names on one line.
[08:06] <gioacchino> Konqueror work with all printers...
[08:06] <jermain> @PhinnFort: Blasphemy!
[08:06] <jermain> k
[08:06] <PhinnFort> jermain: ?
[08:06] <PhinnFort> OPERA OPERA OPERA
[08:06] <gioacchino> I know opera is very good
[08:06] <gioacchino> but I prefer  Firefox
[08:06] <jermain> eventmanager filemanager, imageclippallette, scanassistant and EPCOPY
[08:06] <Sek> I can't find any info with google on getting xvkbd or gok to work with gdm, anyone have any ideas on getting gdm to run an app after initializing the prompt?
[08:06] <PhinnFort> Opera is the best, smallest, fastest, most innovative browser
[08:06] <jermain> these are all folders
[08:06] <jermain> and each contains a bin called
[08:07] <jermain> layout.bin
[08:07] <gioacchino> anybody can help me ?
[08:07] <psb154> jermain, are they file names that end with .bin, like epcopy.bin ?
[08:07] <PhinnFort> gioacchino: have you tried in #firefox?
[08:07] <gioacchino> thanks
[08:08] <jermain> no, all the bin files are called layout.bin
[08:09] <psb154> jermain, there should be a unique file on that there CD that ends with .bin. let me google a second
[08:09] <jermain> k
[08:11] <gioacchino> I have the same problem with Thunderbird...
[08:11] <psb154> jermain the file name is esfw52.bin
[08:12] <jermain> ? weird, its not in my found results,..
[08:12] <psb154> jermain, well we are getting there..
[08:12] <Sek> any ideas on embedding xvkbd or any other onscreen keyboard on my gdm screen?
[08:12] <reydelsillon> hey guys. what is the name of the prgram that is like windows emule for kubuntu? basicaly the most developed and stable p2p+kademilla softaware?
[08:12] <jermain> true true :)
[08:13] <jermain> perhaps i can dl the bin file somewhere
[08:13] <bobstro> JuJuBee: any luck with your proxy?
[08:13] <salhoob> j'ai install le kubuntu mnt
[08:13] <psb154> jermain, just looking but that is the idea.
[08:13] <salhoob> je veut savoir comment installer les autre logiciels
[08:13] <psb154> jermain, I feel sure it is on your CD but if you can't see it then download is the other option.
[08:14] <reydelsillon> hey guys. what is the name of the prgram that is like windows emule for kubuntu? basicaly the most developed and stable p2p+kademilla softaware?
[08:14] <jermain> yeah, I think ill just go to the epson site and dl the driver, maybe my cd is just old -.-
[08:15] <psb154> jermain, good idea.
[08:16] <point14> emule ..maybe aMule
[08:17] <korrx> reydelsillon : amule
[08:17] <jermain> psb154: i got bad news and good news
[08:18] <psb154> good news firest
[08:18] <jermain> the bad news is that i keep getting .exe files
[08:18] <jermain> eep too late
[08:18] <jermain> :)
[08:18] <psb154> lol
[08:18] <jermain> the good news is that i found and downloaded a linux setup
[08:19] <psb154> most excellent
[08:19] <jermain> its called epson31411eu.zip
[08:19] <jermain> :)
[08:19] <jermain> Joy!
[08:19] <psb154> and distructions on how to install it?
[08:19] <jermain> wtf,..
[08:19] <jermain> i unpacked it and got an html file
[08:20] <psb154> jermain, just the one :-)
[08:20] <jermain> called linux driver.html
[08:20] <jermain> its a link to another website that is supposed to have a linux driver
[08:20] <jermain> bunch of sadists ><
[08:21] <psb154> lol
[08:21] <psb154> jermain, mission impossible music is required I think.
[08:22] <jermain> lol
[08:22] <psb154> does the html file self distruct :-)
[08:22] <jermain> i still have 115 seconds left
[08:23] <jermain> no NO NO NO NO NO
[08:23] <jermain> i come to this site that tells me they have the driver
[08:23] <jermain> all i need to do is select the distro
[08:23] <jermain> and i pick debian
[08:24] <jermain> they are giving me RPM files to dl
[08:24] <psb154> pick debian
[08:24] <jermain> i did :(
[08:24] <jermain> maybe i did something wrong
[08:24] <jermain> you try: http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/dl_scan.html
[08:25] <jermain> its perfection 3490 btw
[08:26] <ronan> hey there. having a weird problem with kubuntu 6.06.  just installed on a fresh m,achine, it loads fine but whenever i try and start any program it just crashes. any ideas?
[08:27] <jermain> Tom Cruise eat your heart out. I got the mission of missions on my hands
[08:27] <jermain> >:/
[08:28] <psb154> jermain, that does not look like the file we need.
[08:28] <jermain> nope :(
[08:28] <jermain> what evil minds try to give rpm's to debian users?
[08:29] <sparrw> ive got about a half dozen rpms installed on my kubuntu box
[08:29] <VR_> just use alien to convert rpm to deb
[08:29] <psb154> lol, can you try this again:  sudo find / -name esfw52.bin
[08:29] <sparrw> vi alien of course
[08:29] <livingdaylight> i heard there were some heavy-duty bugs in the last few days
[08:30] <psb154> jermain, with the cd still mounted
[08:30] <jermain> yes?
[08:30] <wolferine> should you remove Samba when switching to a new NFS ?
[08:30] <ronan> hey there. having a weird problem with kubuntu 6.06.  just installed on a fresh m,achine, it loads fine but whenever i try and start any program it just crashes. any ideas?
[08:31] <livingdaylight> should i wait another 2 days or is it safe to install feisty now?
[08:31] <wolferine> livingdaylight, why wait?
[08:31] <wolferine> :)
[08:31] <jermain> crap i had a very unpleasant thought,..
[08:31] <livingdaylight> wolferine: is it safe enough in your opinion?
[08:31] <wolferine> livingdaylight, never used it
[08:31] <jermain> what if there were to cd's and i read the one with all the spam on it..
[08:32] <livingdaylight> wolferine: huh?
[08:32] <jermain> cd /
[08:32] <psb154> dho!
[08:32] <mirek> hello :)
[08:32] <livingdaylight> wolferine:  what do you mean then 'why wait'?
[08:32] <wolferine> what do you mean 'is it safe' ?
[08:33] <livingdaylight> well, it is not the full or final release yet for two days
[08:33] <wolferine> then, maybe you would want to wait for that?
[08:33] <jermain> nope it clearly says scanner software cd rom
[08:33] <wolferine> your answer is right in your question :)
[08:34] <jermain> with the name of the model stamped above it,.. ill look for a 2nd cd though
[08:34] <jermain> just in case
[08:34] <livingdaylight> wolferine: i'm impatient
[08:34] <livingdaylight> wolferine: what are you using?
[08:34] <wolferine> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 6.10 - edgy Kernel: 2.6.17-11-386, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 7.1.1 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.8.0
[08:35] <livingdaylight> wolferine: haha, so you are waiting also
[08:35] <wolferine> im in no rush
[08:35] <wolferine> still lots to learn
[08:37] <jermain> psb154: no other cd, and i have to go to bed. Its getting late
[08:37] <jermain> I'll try again tomorrow
[08:37] <jermain> ty for your help though!
[08:37] <braisnet> aiuto...c' un italiano???
[08:37] <jermain> bye everyone
[08:37] <psb154> jermain, np if you do a google on that bin file esf
[08:37] <psb154> you will see a bunch
[08:38] <jermain> i'll keep at that
[08:38] <jermain> :)
[08:38] <psb154> k bye
[08:40] <Kervan> I want to login to kde with my root account Can i configure it.?
[08:41] <gemidjy> ahh that Konqueror Dialog thing in Feisty...just sux
[08:42] <wolferine> i have a close ISP that offers fast transfers, how can I find out if they are able to be added into my repos?
[08:42] <mc__> gemidjy:  what dialog?
[08:42] <angasule_> gemidjy: which dialog?
[08:43] <angasule_> Kervan: why do you want to do that? it's not a good idea, you can launch applications as root (from a normal user session) by using "kdesu application", for example "kdesu konqueror" will launch konqueror as root
[08:43] <stanley> hi guys
[08:43] <stanley> i have firefox 1.5 installed n i want to upgrade to 2.0.0.3
[08:43] <Kervan> angasule_: I know kdesu but I dont want to use kdesu I wan to login with root access
[08:44] <stanley> how can i do this??
[08:44] <angasule_> !sudo
[08:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:44] <angasule_> Kervan: I think that page gives more details about how to get back root
[08:44] <angasule_> !root
[08:45] <RealisticDragon> Kervan: try sudo su -
[08:46] <RealisticDragon> that will give you a root shell
[08:47] <RealisticDragon> Kervan: ahh, sorry, see you want to log into kde as root :) i think you will need to add root to the user group that allows logins :o
[08:47] <Kervan> RealisticDragon: I know to use sudo, kdesu or other but those applications dont do my wish. I want to login with root access to kde
[08:48] <psb154> kervan you could give your current user root like permissions.
[08:48] <angasule_> Kervan: you have to do sudo passwd or something like that
[08:48] <wolferine> i have a close ISP that offers fast transfers, how can I find out if they are able to be added into my repos?
[08:48] <angasule_> Kervan: but whatever you're doing, it's wrong
[08:48] <psb154> lol
[08:49] <RealisticDragon> can do what he likes with his own machine :)
[08:49] <Kervan> RealisticDragon: how can i set user group that allows logins
[08:49] <RealisticDragon> good luck finding it anyway Kervan, sorry i cant help more :o
[08:49] <angasule_> yeah, he can hump it for all I care :P
[08:49] <RealisticDragon> i just checked /etc/group but theres nothing obvious in there Kervan
[08:50] <Kervan> RealisticDragon: I could not find it this is my real problem... if I can not set it at kubuntu i wont search any more
[08:50] <RealisticDragon> not in /etc/paasswd either so the restriction is somewhere else :o
[08:51] <RealisticDragon> im fairly sure its not a KDE restriction, its lower level... since you cant log in to the shell (ctrl-alt-F1 shell) with root either
[08:51] <angasule_> Kervan: you have to set a root password first
[08:51] <angasule_> Kervan: without a root password, you can't log in at all
[08:51] <Kervan> angasule_: I have a user that userid 0 groupid 0
[08:51] <angasule_> Kervan: I think the command you want is "sudo passwd"
[08:51] <PhinnFort> RealisticDragon:
[08:51] <PhinnFort> I can
[08:52] <RealisticDragon> what did you do PhinnFort? sudo passwd root, then it all worked?
[08:52] <PhinnFort> yup
[08:52] <RealisticDragon> handy :)
[08:52] <Kervan> angasule_: when I work to login to kde with root acces i see this " you can not login with root access to kde"
[08:53] <angasule_> Kervan: well, don't know, google for the solution
[08:53] <angasule_> I'm not going to look it up just so you can hose your system :P
[08:53] <Kervan> no i can not find any thing at googe
[09:03] <livingtm> Hi. Im trying out the KDE desktop to compare it to Gnome on ubuntu. Are there equivalents to gnubiff, the weather applet, and the laptop batter monuitor applet for KDE?
[09:04] <livingtm> make that battery monitor
[09:04] <cloakable> Yes :)
[09:05] <livingtm> cloakable, Nothing of the sort seems to show up i the applet chooser. what do i need to install?
[09:06] <cloakable> livingtm: I presume the weather applet is on gdesklets?
[09:06] <livingtm> cloakable, Nope... its an applet that sites on the top gnome panel in ubuntu
[09:07] <cloakable> Hmm. Not sure then. I use LiquidWeather+++ in Superkaramba.
[09:07] <cloakable> And Aero_AIO for everything else (also in superkaramba)
[09:08] <salhoob> please i have a problem in instaling the amsn ,
[09:09] <salhoob> help me
[09:21] <ubuntu> hello
[09:23] <wolferine> anyone use VMware, I am trying to do a Fedora install, but not seeing any drives to install
[09:27] <WillLuongo> is there a way to manually remove a package from adept that was added by a deb package?
[09:31] <czer323> Question about Tab behaviors in Kde apps.  I'm trying to switch tabs in Kopete and konqurer using Ctrl-Tab/Ctrl-Shift-Tab for forward/backward but it's totally not working.  I checked the System Settings and customized them, but no change.
[09:32] <czer323> it seems to respond to Ctrl-PgUp/PgDn and Ctrl-./, but I definitely changed it from those to Ctrl-Tab
[09:32] <toxicwaze> il y a des canal en francais
[09:33] <toxicwaze> french canal please help me
[09:44] <Tahir_H> most people claim that with ff we will have wifi support out of the box but will there be support for broadcom cards?  Because they require ndiswrapper
[09:45] <jhutchins> Tahir_H: Feisty's in #ubuntu+1
[09:45] <Tahir_H> thanks jhutchins
[09:46] <Tahir_H> why is it not named that? nevermind...
[09:46] <cloakable> Tahir_H: My broadcom card runs just fine with the linux driver :/
[09:46] <cloakable> Just needs the firmware installed.
[09:47] <Tahir_H> cloakable: so does mine but I need wpa support which does not come out of the box
[09:47] <cloakable> Ahh
[09:47] <MinceR> what does apt-indexer do?
[09:48] <Tahir_H> cloakable: will I be able to load the driver using ndiswrapper and then use the gui tools to configure this later on?
[09:48] <juan__> hello
[09:48] <Tahir_H> cloakable: I did everything by editing config files which I dont like to do
[09:48] <cloakable> Tahir_H: I've no idea. I haven't used ndiswrapper in AGES.
[09:49] <juan__> when would kubuntu version 7 be available?
[09:49] <cloakable> This month, apparently
[09:49] <juan__> thanks
[09:50] <MinceR> oh, i misread the name, apparently -_-
[09:51] <ubuntu_> hola
[09:52] <ubuntu_> alguien sabe de algun editor postescript para hylafac
[09:52] <ubuntu_> alguien sabe de algun editor postescript para hylafax
[09:53] <PF-Away> !es | ubuntu_
[09:53] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:53] <cloakable> Hmm. Ubuntu is 2 days away XD
[09:53] <PF-Away> !feisty
[09:53] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:56] <ian_> hi everyone .. just to say thanks to the kubuntu developers / etc.. it is a great distro
[09:56] <ian_> and with knetworkmanager . . can finally use the wpa wireless :)
[09:56] <ubuntu_> ubotu you any have about this it?
[09:57] <Shalaptop1> someone know what is bzr ? because i downloaded something with it, and i have no idea what i have to do after lol
[09:57] <ubuntu_> ubotu you know any about faxcover.pc
[09:57] <Shalaptop1> !bzr
[09:57] <ubotu> bzr is Bazaar-NG, a decentralized revision control system designed to be easy for developers and end users alike. Decentralized revision control systems give people the ability to work over the internet using the bazaar development model.
[09:57] <Shalaptop1> oO
[09:57] <Shalaptop1> that don't help lmao
[09:58] <atidem> hello folks!
[09:58] <Shalaptop1> bzr branch http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/code/ i have do that, but what after oO
[09:59] <jhutchins> Just about 20 minutes even to install the faun on this laptop.
[09:59] <Shalaptop1> !wtf about that D:
[10:00] <ubuntu_> some person know any about hylafax?
[10:01] <Shalaptop1> !hylafax | ubuntu_
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hylafax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <ubuntu_> I would some editor to posscript for modified faxcover.ps file
[10:01] <celli> c' qualche italiano che mi pu aiutare
[10:03] <celli> how i can configure the screen in the right mode?
[10:03] <Shalaptop1> Celli: /j #ubuntu-it
[10:05] <jhutchins> Wow, 254 updates.
[10:06] <Daisuke_Ido> jhutchins: i've decided to wait till the final release
[10:06] <jhutchins> I had to do an install and didn't see any point in re-installing in a few days.  The mirrors will be swamped.
[10:08] <phoenix3051> Does anyone know if the "kmail crashing on filtering" bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdepim/+bug/90701) will be fixed in time for the release of FF
[10:09] <jhutchins> phoenix3051: Unlikely.
[10:09] <jhutchins> phoenix3051: The packages are pretty much frozen at this point, and I think that one is up-stream.
[10:10] <boh3m3> Hey... can anyone help me with an installation problem
[10:10] <phoenix3051> thanks
[10:10] <phoenix3051> for the info.
[10:11] <boh3m3> My installation is locked up at 50% while scanning the disks... Does anyone know what may be occurring?
[10:11] <jhutchins> phoenix3051: Looking at it, it might make it after all, if they actually get it fixed in KDE SVN.
[10:11] <jhutchins> phoenix3051: Release is like two days away though, it'll probably have to be an update.
[10:12] <jhutchins> boh3m3: Scanning the disks?
[10:12] <boh3m3> Well I'm running a live disk and I would like to install kubuntu, but it's frozen
[10:12] <boh3m3> disks as in hard drives
[10:12] <boh3m3> I believe
[10:12] <phoenix3051> jhutchins: hopefully it will because its appears to be a really great release otherwise
[10:13] <jhutchins> I've not had problems with the filters, but I run a different branch.
[10:13] <jhutchins> boh3m3: disks I understand, why do you say it's "scanning" them?
[10:14] <ksnipaz2> anyone know of any apps that can split video (wmv) files?
[10:14] <phoenix3051> can I ask which version you using?
[10:14] <boh3m3> jhutchins: because the installer says that it is scanning them. I believe it is trying to populate a list with what hard drives I have on my motherboard to choose which one to partition/install on
[10:14] <ksnipaz2> I've tried kdenlive, but it keeps crashing
[10:14] <boh3m3> 6.10
[10:15] <wolferine> !proxy | wolferine
[10:15] <Shalaptop1> fail
[10:15] <Shalaptop1> !proxy
[10:15] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[10:15] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[10:15] <jhutchins> boh3m3: Ah, now I know what you mean, that 50% threw me off.
[10:15] <jhutchins> boh3m3: Have you tried restarting?
[10:16] <jhutchins> boh3m3: Does the live CD see all your drives and partitions?
[10:16] <boh3m3> Jhutchins: yes I have, but every time I run the installer it does the exact same thing
[10:16] <wolferine> i really dont understand what a proxy really is
[10:17] <boh3m3> But when I go to system settings>advanced>disks and filesystems everything shows up
[10:17] <jhutchins> wolferine: A relay.
[10:17] <wolferine> is it a client/server setup?
[10:17] <jhutchins> boh3m3: You could try manually setting up the partitions.  The installer's going to insist on formatting / though.
[10:18] <boh3m3> This might sound a bit nooby but how would I go about manually setting up partitions?
[10:18] <jhutchins> wolferine: You point your net app at the proxy instead of the actual internet; the proxy in this case makes it appear that your own IP is hidden.
[10:18] <jhutchins> boh3m3: cfdisk or fdisk, or qparted.
[10:19] <wolferine> jhutchins, but that is just one type of proxy, there are many others, right?
[10:19] <jhutchins> wolferine: Yes.
[10:19] <letynsoft> i have problem... i have normal PC and when i installed game freecraft and  restarted, my Xorg writes something like (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom i've found that /dev/wacom is touchpad so don't know why it needs it...
[10:19] <jhutchins> wolferine: They all share the trait that you point your connection at the proxy machine instead of the actual remote host.
[10:20] <jhutchins> wolferine: Or relay your connection through it, for various reasons.
[10:20] <wolferine> if I wanted my host hidden on IRC, thats a type of proxy, but my ISP will offer a proxy address too, so those are two types
[10:20] <Mena> jhutchins, i have some subtitles in arabic
[10:20] <Mena> jhutchins, why when i open i open them in text
[10:20] <boh3m3> jhutchins: I'm assuming for kubuntu I should format it to fat32, correct?
[10:21] <Mena> jhutchins, i found that the encode* or the words dont appear right
[10:21] <jhutchins> boh3m3: ext3, but like I said, the installer will want to format it for you.
[10:21] <Mena> jhutchins, is there any way to fix
[10:22] <boh3m3> jhutchins: ext3? But what does it matter if the installer will want to format it for me if the installer locks up
[10:22] <sparrw> why might audio being played from a CD be going through the Master Mono channel on my sound card (as reported by alsamixer and kmix)?
[10:22] <jhutchins> Mena: I'm sorry but I'm not very familiar with the internationalization system.  I believe if you set the location and language correctly things should just work, but I don't knw the details.
[10:22] <Mena> ok
[10:22] <Mena> Thansk :)
[10:22] <jhutchins> boh3m3: You might also want to try the alternative installer, but wait:
[10:22] <Mena> Thanks*
[10:22] <jhutchins> boh3m3: Did you checksum the CD and the iso?
[10:23] <Daisuke_Ido> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16159/
[10:23] <Daisuke_Ido> should i be concerned about this?
[10:23] <sparrw> Gtwy: imho it would be better with the center of the chip in focus, so you can see the resistors on the bottom AND some pins, with pins out of focus in front and behind
[10:23] <Daisuke_Ido> every hour at the same time (well duh, it's apparently cron related), different PID
[10:24] <jhutchins> !sa | Mena
[10:24] <ubotu> Mena: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[10:25] <boh3m3> I ordered the CD from ondisk
[10:25] <boh3m3> jhutchins: how do I checksum the disk?
[10:25] <jhutchins> boh3m3: All the more reason to checksum it!
[10:26] <jhutchins> HRm.  Good question, given that it needs to be un-mounted, so you can't very well boot from it.
[10:26] <boh3m3> Should I boot into windows and check the CD from there?
[10:26] <Mena> jhutchins, ok
[10:27] <Mena> jhutchins, Thanks :)
[10:27] <stanley> hi guys
[10:27] <jhutchins> boh3m3: You could do that.  The correct checksums are on the same servers that you download the iso's from.
[10:27] <stanley> frostwire just kicks out when i open it
[10:27] <stanley> what could this be??
[10:28] <jhutchins> boh3m3: I'd go ahead and partition (but not format) the disk, then try again.  Just set the partition type for the main (83) and swap (82) partitions.
[10:29] <boh3m3> jhutchins: Man I know a thing or two about computers, but I'm a windows bloke and I've not a clue what you're talking about
[10:30] <Asasin> Hey again, quick question.
[10:30] <Asasin> I'm trying to copy the Kubuntu ISO over to an SD memory chip so I can use it as a bootable device, is it possible?
[10:31] <Asasin> I tried ImgBurn but it doesn't recognize the SD chip, just the CD ROM drive
[10:31] <joey__> hello
[10:31] <BloodyTux> what's up?
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> Asasin: mount the iso with mount -o loop and copy over to the sd
[10:32] <Asasin> I'm on Windows right now ...
[10:32] <Asasin> So I don't know if mount -o loop would work -_-
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> then...  use something like virtualcd or daemon tools
[10:32] <Znuffy> Hi. In Konqueror, where's the Plugin tab gone?!
[10:33] <Znuffy> Konqueror's settings ,taht is
[10:33] <enry> goodnight!
[10:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Znuffy: i dunno about you, but i still have mine
[10:34] <BloodyTux> anyone need help?
[10:34] <Znuffy> uhm, when you apt-get konqueror on a ubuntu install (not kubuntu) the tab is not there
[10:34] <Daisuke_Ido> next to last in the left panel
[10:34] <Horscht86> yes, i do
[10:34] <BloodyTux> !ubuntu
[10:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:34] <BloodyTux> !ubuntu help
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, then that's a question for them, not kubuntu
[10:34] <Znuffy> Is there a special package that provides the plugin stuff for konqueror?
[10:34] <BloodyTux> #ubuntu
[10:34] <Daisuke_Ido> because kubuntu includes it by default, including plugins
[10:34] <Znuffy> it's the same stuff -_-
[10:34] <BloodyTux> ask there
[10:34] <boh3m3> bloodytux: I do need help actually
[10:34] <Asasin> Daemon Tools will let me mount to an SD chip? :\
[10:35] <Asasin> Last time I checked that was virtual emulation
[10:35] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[10:35] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[10:35] <BloodyTux> boh3m3: how can i help?
[10:35] <Daisuke_Ido> it will let you mount the cd
[10:35] <Znuffy> so you have no idea about what packages kubuntu-desktop depends on
[10:35] <Znuffy> ok, fair enough
[10:35] <Daisuke_Ido> so you can copy it over to the SD card
[10:35] <Znuffy> bye
[10:35] <boh3m3> bloodytux: I'm having installation problems
[10:35] <Daisuke_Ido> snippy
[10:35] <boh3m3> with kubuntu 6.10
[10:35] <BloodyTux> boh3m3: how so
[10:35] <Asasin> Oooh right >_>... And then that should be a "bootable" copy ?
[10:35] <Daisuke_Ido> and if he'd just SAID kubuntu-desktop, i would have smacked him >_<
[10:36] <Daisuke_Ido> Asasin: i would imagine so, as long as your bios will let you boot from such a device
[10:36] <boh3m3> bloodytux: I'm working off of a live CD I ordered off of on-disk.com and every time it gets to selecting the hard drive it's to be installed on it freezes up while scanning the devices
[10:36] <boh3m3> at precisely 50%
[10:36] <Horscht86> I have a Wireless card with a RT2561/RT61 chipset.
[10:36] <Daisuke_Ido> it doesn't like one of your hard drives, sounds like :)
[10:37] <Horscht86> I am running kbuntu 7.04 beta as a live CD
[10:37] <BloodyTux> boh3m3: yea i agree with dai
[10:37] <Asasin> Well I'm hoping it does. Thanks Daisuke.
[10:37] <BloodyTux> how is thebeta going?
[10:37] <Daisuke_Ido> Asasin: good luck, let us know if it worked :)
[10:37] <boh3m3> daisuke: how do I rectify the problem? I have 4 hard drives... do I disconnect all but the one I wish to install on?
[10:37] <BloodyTux> whasts asasin's problem?
[10:37] <Asasin> Haha I will :p
[10:37] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: booting off of an SD card
[10:38] <BloodyTux> oh.
[10:38] <Daisuke_Ido> if the bios will allow something like that, cool, but i don't know for sure
[10:38] <BloodyTux> prob. not
[10:38] <BloodyTux> you'd need some major modifications for that
[10:38] <Asasin> I just have to hope it does.
[10:38] <BloodyTux> good luck
[10:38] <Asasin> Well... I'm crossing my fingers >_>
[10:38] <Daisuke_Ido> Asasin: i might have a link that will help
[10:38] <Asasin> Thanks XD
[10:38] <boh3m3> Daisuke_Ido: Did you see my question?
[10:39] <Daisuke_Ido> boh3m3: just a second :)
[10:39] <Asasin> If it's that XPE Booting thing I don't know if I can figure it out >_>
[10:39] <boh3m3> Take your time
[10:39] <Horscht86> when i click the network manager i can see a wireless network, but when I try to connect it it goes no firther than 28% (device configuration)
[10:39] <Horscht86> the network is not encrypted, locked etc.
[10:39] <BloodyTux> hmmmmmm. probably just a porblem with the beta.
[10:39] <BloodyTux> report a bug
[10:39] <BloodyTux> !bugs
[10:39] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:40] <BloodyTux> *problem
[10:40] <Daisuke_Ido> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[10:40] <ash211> Horscht86: sometimes trying `sudo dhclient eth1` (or other interface) has helped me
[10:40] <BloodyTux> lol
[10:40] <Daisuke_Ido> Asasin: check that, look for what files are needed
[10:40] <BloodyTux> brb i'm going to download 7.04 iso
[10:40] <Asasin> Awesome, thanks.
[10:40] <Daisuke_Ido> i think it's on page 2 or so
[10:40] <BloodyTux> nvm
[10:41] <Daisuke_Ido> boh3m3: k, back to you :)
[10:41] <Daisuke_Ido> are all of your drives pata?
[10:41] <Horscht86> ash211: so i try ra0 instead?
[10:41] <boh3m3> I don't even know what that means
[10:41] <BloodyTux> pata???
[10:41] <Daisuke_Ido> parallel ata
[10:41] <Horscht86> thats the name of my wireless card in Linux
[10:41] <ash211> Horscht86: yes
[10:41] <BloodyTux> i thoguht there only was sata and ide
[10:41] <BloodyTux> oh
[10:41] <Daisuke_Ido> (typical ide devices)
[10:41] <ash211> ide=pata
[10:41] <ash211> generally
[10:42] <BloodyTux> ...
[10:42] <boh3m3> I have two on IDE and two on SATA
[10:42] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[10:43] <BloodyTux> :/
[10:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i assume you're installing to a sata drive
[10:43] <boh3m3> No I believe it's an IDE
[10:43] <jhutchins> Strangely the installer labeled my laptop's ide drive sda.
[10:43] <BloodyTux> try installing to a sata
[10:43] <Daisuke_Ido> jhutchins: there is only sda now
[10:44] <Daisuke_Ido> well...  there is only sd* now
[10:44] <jhutchins> Ah.
[10:44] <jhutchins> Well, rebooting feisty after update, if ndiswrapper doesn't work this time it won't be a kubuntu laptop after all.
[10:44] <BloodyTux> if that doesn't work, try unplugging the other 3 drives, install, then plug them in after and config from kubuntu gui
[10:44] <jhutchins> Won't connect with the acx100 (could be a bad card).
[10:45] <ubuntu_> ash211: this is what happens: http://www.pastebin.ca/445373
[10:45] <ubuntu_> but i still can't get any further than 28%
[10:45] <ash211> the internet should work now, then
[10:45] <BloodyTux> ubuntu: what's going on?
[10:46] <wolferine> how do you find proxies (addresses) ?
[10:46] <ubuntu_> I have a Wireless card with a RT2561/RT61 chipset.
[10:46] <wolferine> my ISP would have one
[10:46] <ubuntu_> I am running kbuntu 7.04 beta as a live CD
[10:46] <ubuntu_> when i click the network manager i can see a wireless network, but when I try to connect it it goes no firther than 28% (device configuration)
[10:46] <jhutchins> wolferine: Proxies for what?
[10:46] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu_: tjat
[10:46] <Daisuke_Ido> ouch
[10:46] <wolferine> good question
[10:46] <Daisuke_Ido> that looks connected
[10:46] <wolferine> for my FTP client maybe?
[10:47] <jhutchins> wolferine: Why?
[10:47] <ubuntu_> yeah, but i cannot connect to the wireless router (which is 192.168.0.2)
[10:47] <BloodyTux> ubuntu: oh yea, like i said before, it could just be that the beta hasn't been fully worked out yet so submit a bug
[10:47] <BloodyTux> !bugs | ubuntu_
[10:47] <ubotu> ubuntu_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:47] <Daisuke_Ido> you got an ack from the router, and got an ip
[10:47] <Daisuke_Ido> what's the problem?
[10:47] <jhutchins> wolferine: If your ISP has an FTP proxy, you would go to their web page and look for help on configuration for what to use.
[10:47] <wolferine> jhutchins, not sure I understand your question
[10:47] <ubuntu_> well, i tried 6.10 kubuntu yesterday, and it didn't work at all
[10:47] <jhutchins> wolferine: Why do you want to use a proxy?
[10:48] <BloodyTux> laptop or desktop?
[10:48] <wolferine> jhutchins, i want to understand what a proxy is
[10:48] <ubuntu_> read a bit around and found that my wireless chipset is not supported in 6.10, but it is in 7.04 (sans encryption, though)
[10:48] <jhutchins> wolferine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy
[10:48] <BluesKaj> hey jhutchins , I've been setting up partitions to give /home it's own partition, but I've run into a snag ... I'm following this tutorial :http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/  . However, I've run into a snag after this command : find . -depth -print0 | cpio null sparse -pvd /mnt/newhome/...the errror is : cpio: You must specify one of -oipt options....not sure what in out options to specify
[10:48] <wolferine> read it
[10:48] <wolferine> doesnt help
[10:48] <Daisuke_Ido> i repeat.  you have an ip, the router acknowledged you.  what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:49] <ubuntu_> I am trying to connect to a computer (xbox via ftp) which is connected to the router (with wire)
[10:49] <BloodyTux> ubuntu try unplugging the wireless router, then unplugging or removing your card, plug in the router, put in the card, then start
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> then you connect to the xbox's ip address, not the router's
[10:50] <wolferine> ubuntu, did you setup the xbox to support FTP?
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: he has a connection, check the pastebin
[10:50] <ubuntu_> yes, and yes
[10:50] <BloodyTux> oh. oops
[10:50] <wolferine> ubuntu, do you have the address of the router?
[10:50] <wolferine> i mean, the xbox*
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> 192.168.0.2
[10:50] <ubuntu_> i tried to connect to the router, too, just to see if i was able to get ther
[10:50] <Asasin> *sigh* it didn't recognize it as a bootable device. But Windows is loading on it what the heck.
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> :D
[10:51] <ubuntu_> 192.168.0.2 is the router, 192.168.0.23 is the xbox
[10:51] <Daisuke_Ido> Asasin: if it's not seen as a bootable device, it will go past and load from the first ahrd drive (windows)
[10:51] <wolferine> ubuntu, what happens when you FTP to that address?
[10:51] <Asasin> I know, but the main problem I was having is that Windows wouldn't load at all.
[10:51] <wolferine> u know it needs a port as well, correct?
[10:51] <Daisuke_Ido> what happens when you ping that address
[10:51] <BloodyTux> asasin, what is your problem again? i forgot
[10:51] <ubuntu_> at first it said it couldn't find host
[10:52] <Asasin> Windows is screwed up (usually) and it won't load (ntfs.sys error) so I was trying to get Kubuntu on there.
[10:52] <Asasin> And the CD ROM drive is dead... so I was going to use an SD card.
[10:52] <wolferine> ubuntu, do you have a port for it ?
[10:52] <Asasin> Is it possible to install Kubuntu while Windows is Running? :\
[10:52] <wolferine> Asasin, someone is working on it
[10:53] <BloodyTux> my advice is to live cd kubuntu or another linux, copy the needed files from windows to the sd, reinstall windows but save half the harddrive, then install kubuntu on the other half and grub will dual boot
[10:53] <wolferine> Asasin, its called install.exe, look in the ubuntu documentation for ir
[10:53] <wolferine> it*
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> !install.exe
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install.exe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> probably nothing
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, thought so :\
[10:54] <BloodyTux> !ubotu | ubotu
[10:54] <ubotu> ubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:54] <Asasin> Oh well, thanks
[10:54] <Asasin> It just died on me again -_-
[10:54] <BloodyTux> read wat i said before...
[10:55] <Asasin> Yes but I can't use a live disc on a computer with a dead CD ROM drive...
[10:55] <BloodyTux> ouch
[10:55] <Asasin> lol
[10:55] <ubuntu__> sorry, got disconnected
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ouch
[10:55] <Asasin> But I appreciate your advice.
[10:55] <BloodyTux> seems you are kind of screwed, no offense
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> can you borrow a friend's? :)
[10:55] <Asasin> xD That's alright.
[10:55] <Asasin> Friend's what?
[10:55] <BloodyTux> you could go out and get a usb cdrom
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> cdrom
[10:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm tempted to drop in my ide card, put this hdd back into service
[10:56] <ubuntu__> ok, now after my internet connection screwed up and I had to reboot, i can actualy ping my xbox
[10:56] <Daisuke_Ido> from here, you should be alright :)
[10:56] <ubuntu__> now that this works, i might install kubuntu, on my hd
[10:57] <ubuntu__> i think the sudo dhclient ra0 worked
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu__: this is going to sound strange, but if you realy want to go linux, don't dual boot.
[10:57] <Asasin> Ok, I've tried an external DVD burner but my computer doesn't recognize that at all
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> boot from usb
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> make sure you've got that set in the bios, most don't by default
[10:57] <ubuntu__> Daisuke_Ido: I am thinking about switching completely from Windows
[10:58] <BloodyTux> NO
[10:58] <ubuntu__> but I wanted to test it first, so I used the Live CD
[10:58] <BloodyTux> WINDOWS=VIRUSES & other bad junk
[10:58] <Asasin> Well it's done I guess... So annoying though... no laptop for two weeks at least -_-
[10:58] <Asasin> Nothing wrong with Windows >_>
[10:58] <BloodyTux> windows is ok but way to insecure
[10:58] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu__: definitely don't dual boot.  you'll find something you can't do as easily in linux (yet) as you can in windows, so you boot back into windows and forget linux is there
[10:58] <Daisuke_Ido> the best way to switch is to switch
[10:59] <BloodyTux> people think linux is insecure from it being opensource but they are wrong
[10:59] <Tm_T> BloodyTux: if you're doing politics...
[10:59] <BloodyTux> offtopic i know
[10:59] <Tm_T> BloodyTux: :)
[10:59] <BloodyTux> i'll shut up
[10:59] <Tm_T> BloodyTux: no, don't shut up :)
[10:59] <Asasin> Maybe my brother will let me borrow his computer or something... Oh well. Hey thanks a lot for all your help.
[10:59] <ubuntu__> well, gonna go to bed now. gonna install kubuntu tomorrow
[11:00] <ubuntu__> thanks for the help.
[11:00] <BloodyTux> cya
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu__: good luck, and welcome to the cult^H^H^H^Hfold
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> aww
[11:00] <Asasin> Too slow
[11:00] <BloodyTux> lol
[11:01] <BloodyTux> #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:01] <Asasin> Alright see you guys later.
[11:05] <soulrider> !dual
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <soulrider> !dualscreens
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualscreens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <soulrider> !clonse
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clonse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <soulrider> !clone
[11:05] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" - See also !automate
[11:05] <ash211> !automate
[11:05] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[11:06] <soulrider> !xinera,a
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinera,a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <soulrider> !xinerama
[11:06] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[11:06] <soulrider> !dualhead
[11:06] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[11:07] <BloodyTux> how do you getsolsuite working? i can't with wine or cedega
[11:07] <soulrider> solsuite ?
[11:07] <BloodyTux> yea
[11:08] <BloodyTux> 450+ solitaire games
[11:08] <soulrider> uhm, windows program ?
[11:08] <BloodyTux> my mom is bugging me like crazy to get it to work, yea
[11:08] <BloodyTux> crossover, wine, and cedega always fail
[11:09] <BloodyTux> !emulation
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <BloodyTux> !wine
[11:09] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:09] <soulrider> !compiling
[11:09] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:10] <soulrider> !mythtv
[11:10] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[11:11] <jhutchins> Does anyone have 1)Any USB Wireless card and B) A netgear WG111T working in either Edgy or Feisty?
[11:12] <BloodyTux> nope
[11:12] <ash211> jhutchins: I have 2 PCI cards and centrino, but haven't tried any USB
[11:12] <judgen> is there any macro app for linux?
[11:13] <stanley> hey BloodyTux: could u help me with a frostwire problem
[11:13] <stanley> it just kicks out automantically
[11:13] <judgen> i need my computer to press the space button every 12 seconds. without me sitting by the computer
[11:13] <BloodyTux> frostwire?
[11:15] <stanley> yea
[11:16] <BloodyTux> whats up
[11:16] <MinceR> vector 180 from the COM of the nearest gravity well
[11:17] <bobstro> BloodyTux: you could just install some native linux solitaire games and tell her those are it.
[11:18] <stanley> bloodytux: my frostwire just automatically kicks out while i'm using it
[11:18] <judgen> i need my computer to press the space button every 12 seconds. without me sitting by the computer, any ideas?
[11:18] <BloodyTux> bobstro: yea but i can't get algerian patience. she's threatening me by saying if i dont im going back to windoze
[11:18] <BloodyTux> hmmmmm
[11:18] <bobstro> BloodyTux: threaten HER with return to windows! :)
[11:18] <BloodyTux> lol
[11:19] <bobstro> BloodyTux: do you have other stuff going in wine?
[11:19] <Peaker> judgen: you would need a robot for that :-) You probably want to simulate a space key pressed event for some specific application? why?
[11:19] <BloodyTux> stanley: try reinstalling frostwire
[11:19] <jhutchins> judgen: man crontab
[11:19] <BloodyTux> bobstro: no i want byond buy i get a application error
[11:19] <BloodyTux> *but
[11:19] <BloodyTux> !upgrade
[11:19] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:19] <bobstro> BloodyTux: so you need to do the basic install even?
[11:20] <BloodyTux> i can install fine
[11:20] <BloodyTux> all apps i install fail to works
[11:20] <judgen> Peaker: i have to w8 10 sec for the nag picture to be removed to download a userfrienly cartoon strip. And to download a couple of thousand strips by sitting next to the computer will take ages
[11:20] <Peaker> judgen: you should script a downloader script that iterates the web site
[11:20] <jhutchins> Oookay then, Feisty coming off, Mandriva 2001.1 going on instead.
[11:20] <bobstro> BloodyTux: ah, ok. i installed ies4linux, and have copied that over as a template, but may not apply to this.
[11:21] <Peaker> judgen: via firefox extension to do it - or Python with some library - or a shell script with wget perhaps
[11:21] <BloodyTux> template??? i rock with linux crpa but wine is foreign to my sorta
[11:21] <judgen> firefox addon works badly
[11:21] <bobstro> doesn't dailystrips do userfriendly?
[11:22] <judgen> Peaker: the stripclub app does it very clean and good, but i just need a macro or something to press my space bar every 12 sec or there about
[11:22] <bobstro> judgen: have you checked out dailystrips?
[11:22] <judgen> but it crashes of i glue the spacebar down
[11:23] <Peaker> judgen: what the heck is stripclub?
[11:23] <bobstro> judgen: dailystrips will download userfriendly for you (and lots of others)
[11:23] <Peaker> wine is bad :( It still doesn't emulate even win95 :(
[11:23] <bobstro> windows is bad. it doesn't work with wine.
[11:23] <judgen> Peaker: wine works very fine for me
[11:24] <BloodyTux> wine always crashes my programs
[11:24] <Peaker> judgen: it emulates some subsets good enough for some applications and games
[11:24] <Peaker> judgen: But I think its very disappointing that stuff win95 could run are still not runnable in Wine
[11:24] <Peaker> judgen: its been more than 12 years
[11:24] <BloodyTux> i even bought crossover and cedega for these to progs but they dont work :(
[11:24] <BloodyTux> i want a refund
[11:24] <bobstro> Peaker: that's the nature of proprietary software.
[11:25] <judgen> Peaker:  i use adobe illustrator, photoshop, ultimotax, and flash through wine. What more could i ask for?
[11:25] <bobstro> Peaker: it is often crippled so that it won't work even if there is no technical reason it shouldn't.
[11:25] <judgen> and it works ever better than in windows for my purposes
[11:25] <Peaker> bobstro: Yeah - but the wine guys had 12 years to implement the entire win32 api that existed in win95 - and still haven't done o
[11:26] <Peaker> judgen: Why flash? why not natively? Everything I ever tried running in wine didn't work properly
[11:26] <Peaker> judgen: Starcraft is the main thing - it works only in single player mode :(
[11:26] <bobstro> Peaker: considering the size of the code for even win95 and the fact  that microsoft goes to lengths to NOT make information available ... not to mention most of the developers aren't paid staff... are you that surprised?
[11:26] <Peaker> Because Wine does not properly emulate a Windows bug, it seems :(
[11:26] <judgen> Peaker: also many apps of win95 era is not working in microsofts OWN newer lines of products. Even though they have the source code ffs =)
[11:26] <Peaker> bobstro: Given that other Opensource projects have shown amazingly fast progress - yeah I am surprised..
[11:27] <judgen> Peaker: does Macromedia/Adobe Flash even exist for Linux?
[11:27] <Peaker> All I want in wine -- is Starcraft :)
[11:27] <Peaker> judgen: yeah it does
[11:27] <judgen> Peaker: since when?
[11:27] <bobstro> Peaker: wasn't starcraft a DOS program?
[11:27] <judgen> Peaker: Starcraft works fine here
[11:27] <judgen> but im using cedega
[11:27] <Peaker> what about battle.net?
[11:27] <Peaker> bobstro: no it was win95
[11:28] <Peaker> bobstro: or win98
[11:28] <bobstro> Peaker: ah, ok. must be thinking of an older one. we used to play those a LTO.
[11:28] <bobstro> er, LOT
[11:28] <Peaker> judgen: since forever, there was a flash, I think
[11:28] <Peaker> bobstro: Warcraft II ?
[11:28] <bobstro> Peaker: yeah, that and C&C.
[11:28] <bobstro> Peaker: not on linux mind you!
[11:29] <Peaker> bobstro: C&C sucks, Westwood can't design games :-)
[11:29] <Peaker> Blizzard are *great* game designers, but horrible at restricting their users and DRM and crap
[11:30] <wolferine> how do I restart the nfs service in ubuntu?
[11:30] <bobstro> Peaker: it was a "family time" thing. 3 of us on a LAN. good fun.
[11:31] <Peaker> bobstro: yeah its fun to RTS against people :-) When you go online though, you suddenly hit much higher levels (because the net players tend to grow towards the highest players' levels, and not the other way around)
[11:31] <bobstro> wolferine: sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart (assuming you mean kernel server) works.
[11:31] <Peaker> bobstro: and then the games against family and friends seem like n00b games :-)
[11:32] <bobstro> Peaker: yeah, we rarely play out single player mode. right to online multiplayer if we can. warcraft was our first online... or maybe that was duke. insane at the time.
[11:32] <bobstro> Peaker: (i didn't let the kiddies do doom until they got older)
[11:33] <bobstro> wolferine: there may be a gui tool for that too.
[11:34] <bobstro> wolferine: you can also use System Settings->Advanced->System Services (in administrator mode) though it takes longer that way.
[11:34] <wolferine> bobesponja, thanks
[11:35] <bobesponja> wolferine: you're welcome
[11:36] <maki> how to autostart adsl
[11:37] <N6REJ> has anyone successfully gotten vmware server to install lately?
[11:37] <maki> i need manualy to execute pon dsl-provider
[11:53] <BloodyTux> hey
[11:54] <BloodyTux> when i upgrade from edgy to feisty the distrobution upgrader says it can't find www.packages.debian.org. any ideas?
[11:55] <VSpike> what is "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/software-properties" and why has it been hogging 100% cpu for hours?
[12:00] <adaptr> it's your installed software applet
[12:02] <VSpike> adaptr: was that ti ne?
[12:02] <VSpike> adaptr: was that to me, even?
[12:02] <pollyo> Hello
[12:02] <adaptr> VSpike: yes
[12:02] <pollyo> Does firefox have the ability to use encrtption on websites?
[12:03] <cloakable> Yes
[12:03] <pollyo> Does it have any indication when it is active?
[12:03] <adaptr> pollyo: if you mean does FF support Secure HTTP, of course
[12:04] <adaptr> pollyo: right bottom of status bar, and a lock icon at the end of the URL bar
[12:04] <pollyo> adaptr: Ok. Thank you.
[12:04] <adaptr> pollyo: clicking it gets you the site's certificate
[12:04] <cloakable> pollyo: I *think* the adress bar turns a different colour, but that might be konqueror.
[12:04] <adaptr> probably, it's not FF
[12:05] <cloakable> Why aren't you using konqueror, anyhow? :P
[12:05] <pollyo> cloakable: Is there any difference in the two?
[12:05] <dave_> I'm using fiesty and have noticed that occasionally adept shows the wrong description for packages, has anyone else xperienced this?
[12:06] <rubyat> FF turns yellow or gold on secure sites
[12:06] <cloakable> pollyo: Yep :P Konqueror is a lot more integrated into KDE :)
[12:06] <soulrider> what program can i use to convert mp3 files?
[12:06] <soulrider> as in reencode them to lower the bitrate
[12:06] <adaptr> .... which is not necessarily a good thing... IE is also very integrated with Windows
[12:06] <cloakable> soulrider: ffmpeg?
[12:07] <chijin> soulrider: re-encoding mp3 files is bad, you lose a lot of quality in the process
[12:07] <adaptr> !lame | soulrider
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <adaptr> you lame bot!
[12:07] <chijin> soulrider: as in the resulting file is actually a lot worse than the bitrate would suggest
[12:07] <soulrider> chijin: for some reason my friggin mp3 player will do random stuff when playing MP3s, the only thing ive seen really works is lowering the bitrate
[12:08] <cloakable> !ffmpeg | soulrider
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <pollyo> Does kde have any type of cd burning built into to konqueror?  I was using gnome the other day and noticed it was somewhat easy to copy files to the cd burner.  I haven't looked at it in kde.
[12:08] <chijin> soulrider: well it's actually very easy
[12:09] <chijin> soulrider: install lame, decode the files and re-encode them. or, you can use a graphical frontend for lame and do the same thing
[12:09] <BloodyTux> how do i edit sources.list if im not root?
[12:09] <cloakable> BloodyTux: You can't
[12:09] <WillLuongo> bloodytux: kdesu kate sources.list
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: sudo
[12:09] <soulrider> chijin: i was thinking of a GUI, yes
[12:09] <BloodyTux> l
[12:09] <BloodyTux> k
[12:10] <chijin> soulrider: i'm running foobar with wine to convert my files :-)
[12:10] <WillLuongo> I had a problem with a failed .deb install, how can I manually remove that package?
[12:11] <soulrider> oh my
[12:11] <Daisuke_Ido> chijin: huhwha?  why not soundkonverter
[12:11] <Daisuke_Ido> which is OH so much simpler and will leave you with less of a headache and more time to practice ballet, sugar :)
[12:11] <chijin> Daisuke_Ido: well, foobar does things faster than native ones
[12:11] <soulrider> yeah
[12:11] <soulrider> i used ti some time ago, i gues sill install it again
[12:12] <WillLuongo> Can anyone help me remove a broken package from adept?
[12:12] <Daisuke_Ido> WillLuongo: go to the terminal: 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[12:12] <BloodyTux> Failed to fetch http://packages.debian.org/dists/Debian/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[12:12] <BloodyTux> :(
[12:12] <BloodyTux> not cool
[12:12] <cloakable> :/
[12:13] <chijin> Daisuke_Ido: also, try to convert an alac file to flac with soundkonverter. does that work? :P
[12:13] <BloodyTux> so close to it working
[12:13] <cloakable> Mixing Debian and Ubuntu also not cool
[12:13] <BloodyTux> any tips?
[12:13] <BloodyTux> its the upgrade distro thingy
[12:13] <Daisuke_Ido> alac?