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|NewUser|i think there is no way there. ubuntu just check my / root partition12:29
misfit-toy|NewUser|, are  you saying you want to fsck a windows partition??12:31
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|NewUser|misfit-toy: dont know wth.. whenever i boot up fsck get problem with FAT partitions12:32
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misfit-toyoh, I see, it wants to RUN an fsck on a FAT...weird...let me google.12:32
|NewUser| checking file system " and after that.. " dosfsck 2,11, 17 Apr 2007, fat32, LFN. No FSINFO sector NOt automatically creating it, /dev/sda1: 1000054 files, 667795/126655 "12:32
|NewUser|something like this12:32
misfit-toy|NewUser|, read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=240189912:33
|NewUser|misfit-toy: sure.. let me open it12:33
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XVampireXHi12:35
XVampireXDoes anyone here use democracy tv?12:35
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|NewUser|misfit-toy: there is a way " Most likely just disabling fsck for your FAT partition should fix the problem. Edit /etc/fstab and change the last number in the entry line for the FAT partition to '0'. " but in my fstab entries there is no FAT partition ?12:36
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richb|NewUser|: hmm maybe /etc/hald.conf12:38
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robertj__ok hurray12:39
richb|NewUser|: hmm maybe /etc/hal/hald.conf even12:39
ShaddoxHello everyone. I need help setting up my BIND on my server. I have generated a zone file, but my registrar reports that my dns server has no whois data.12:39
robertj__Screem actually edits HTML and works with Gnome VFS!12:39
|NewUser|richb:  let me check there is any info for FAT3212:39
|NewUser|richb:  there is no file name like this. hald.conf  in /etc/hal/12:40
|NewUser|richb: there is just once file in /etc/hal/fdi12:41
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XVampireXhttp://files.fullcirclemagazine.org/uploads/issue0.pdf12:41
XVampireXlooks good12:42
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richb|NewUser|: I dunno. There must be a way to tun automount off but I don't know it:-)12:44
|NewUser|richb: its ok dude.. waiting for someone.. who may fix this crap from my mahine ..12:45
|NewUser|richb:12:46
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|NewUser|richb: well i can access my FAT32 partitions from Places/Computer/filesystem/media/ There is my all FAT32 partitions .. and dont know what they are doing there.. i aint mount at anyone..12:47
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|NewUser|richb: there is My FAT32 Partitions name sda1 sda5 ANd one ext3 Redhat linux partition. there12:48
|NewUser|i dont know what they are doing there .. coz i aint mount any partition before.12:49
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BluesKaj|NewUser|, do you mean that you didn't install the redhat on your machine ?12:51
|NewUser|BluesKaj:  as i said.. i have redhat too in another ext3 partition.12:52
|NewUser|BluesKaj: i m saying that in media folder there is all fat32 and ext3 partitions12:53
|NewUser|but No fat32 or another ext3 partitions entry in fstab12:53
BluesKajwhat about boot menu , do they show up there ?12:55
misfit-toy|NewUser|,  check system/preferences/removeable drives and media12:55
|NewUser|yes.. on startup there on GRUB .. Windows And Redhat working fine12:55
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misfit-toyalthough I think that only applies to once you're IN the OS...12:56
|NewUser|misfit-toy:  what i check there ? in removeable media ?12:56
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misfit-toy|NewUser|, don't bother I don't think that will fix your issue...sorry.12:57
AshbringerHello, I compiled my kernel a while ago, and now whenever I update it to a binary image, update-manager will complain about calling /sbin/update-grub, and it'll tell me to update my /etc/kernel-img.conf. THe file it then refers me to doesn't really help. How can I stop this and get update-manager to update my kernel succesfully?12:58
|NewUser|:<12:58
misfit-toy|NewUser|, I don't know that's a weird one, but someone here will know the answer.12:58
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|NewUser|misfit-toy:  i asking same thing since last 1 hour 25 minutes. ;)12:59
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BluesKaj|NewUser|,what do yo want to do? ...I was away at dinner so i missed the original question and problem01:00
|NewUser|when ever i start my Fiesty in start its got stuck on " checking file system " and after that.. " dosfsck 2,11, 17 Apr 2007, fat32, LFN. No FSINFO sector NOt automatically creating it, /dev/sda1: 1000054 files, 667795/126655 " this happens with all FAT32 Partition coz of this my startup is too much slow :< what should i do ? to fix it? Plz Someone can help me?01:01
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neonlinuxhey all, anyone know when this week feisty gets released... building a server for a school and was hoping to use the latest ubuntu01:02
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Ashbringerneonlinux: Its out on thursday01:02
misfit-toyBluesKaj, basically something is telling his system to run dosfsck on a fat partition when his system boots, beyond me.01:02
BluesKaj|NewUser|, it's loading your FAT partitition files into  the media folder on startup01:02
neonlinuxAshbringer: cool thanks :)01:03
BluesKajubuntu media folder01:03
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|NewUser|BluesKaj:01:03
|NewUser|i dont want to mount01:03
|NewUser|i just want to check my / partition01:04
catduckanybody know where to find that multimedia wizard they're hyping?01:04
BluesKajI think , but i'm not certain but ,he has to go into his media folder and turn off the share01:04
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catduckno?01:08
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BluesKaj|NewUser|, if you check your FAT partition from within ubuntu it's going to mount the files from FAT .You can also check and reset the settings of your FAT partitions without mounting in system settings/adavanced /disk & file systems/01:09
dystopianray_catduck: if you click on a file that you have no codec for it's supposed to popup and take you through installing the necessary codecs01:09
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catduckdystopianray_: thanks01:10
askarWhy do I have to write my password to gnome-keyring to connect to wireless?! Hope this will be gone in final release?01:10
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dystopianray_askar: the wireless password is stored in the gnome-keyring01:11
dystopianray_askar: and no it won't be gone, feisty is basically finalised feature wise01:11
dystopianray_askar: and what you're describing is af eature01:11
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askardystopianray_: feature? Me and many more would describe it a bug? Or at least a very annoying extrastep top connect...01:12
dystopianray_askar: the feature is securely storing wireless passwords01:12
askardystopianray_: It would have been ok if I could choose "Never ask again" or somehing..01:12
dystopianray_askar: i believe you can setup and use pam_keyring, or something similar, which automatically opens the keyring when you login01:13
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misfit-toyBluesKaj, wow I don't see that anywhere in my menus, maybe because I upgraded from edgy or something....01:17
ShaddoxHello everyone. I need someone to help me with my BIND zone file, I  think I may have gotten it wrong.01:17
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BluesKajmisfit-toy, ?01:20
misfit-toyBluesKaj, I answered your IM01:20
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BluesKajsorry misfit-toy, missed you01:21
misfit-toyheh01:21
BluesKajand the answer :)01:22
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|NewUser|someone can help ?01:24
|NewUser|BluesKaj:  there is nothing option... as u said.01:24
misfit-toy"settings/advanced/disk and file systems"01:24
dystopianray_misfit_toy: |NewUser|: he was talking about kubuntu01:25
|NewUser|ahh01:25
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misfit-toyah01:25
|NewUser|sorry01:25
misfit-toylol01:25
|NewUser|i m using GNOME01:25
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BluesKajmisfit-toy, system settings/advanced/disk&file systems01:25
BicchiI am using the slab menu and would like to know how do I create a new entry for an application?01:25
|NewUser|BluesKaj:  im using gnome01:25
misfit-toyBluesKaj, you're on Kubuntu, sorry, didn't know.01:26
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|NewUser|BRB reboot01:26
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BluesKajok, I'll keep my mouth shut ..one friendly soul here already called me an idiot for not asking the right questions :)01:28
BluesKajyeah, that usually only happens if he mounts from within the OS01:29
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misfit-toyBluesKaj, it's amazing the audacity of people typing TEXT and getting pissed off, I don't get that behavior.01:30
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dystopianray_misfit_toy: i was annoyed becuase he implied that my help is useless01:31
dystopianray_misfit_toy: and to not bother asking questions in here01:31
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ratshellQuestion I know my sound card is /dev/ something. I have to sound cards. How do I find out which is which. Like which is /dev/oss and what the other is?01:32
misfit-toylol, I'm staying out of it!!!01:32
dystopianray_ratshell: the alsa stuff is in /dev/snd/01:32
misfit-toyand here is the bug when he returns, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dosfstools/+bug/5929301:32
ubotuMalone bug 59293 in dosfstools "Dosfsck Run On Every Boot on FAT" [Medium,Confirmed] 01:32
misfit-toybbl01:32
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BluesKaj<dystopianray_> BluesKaj: hey I've helped a lot of people in here today, you're just an idiot who doesn't ask questions properly01:33
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EkHyMoSiSHola01:34
EkHyMoSiSalguien que hable espaol?01:34
EkHyMoSiS:)01:34
BluesKaj!es01:34
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:34
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EkHyMoSiSlol01:34
EkHyMoSiSthanks01:34
BluesKajthank the bot :)01:35
EkHyMoSiSthanks ubotu01:35
BluesKaj:)01:35
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BluesKajratshell , lspci ...see which one is recognized ...but if you run sometimes one has to be disabled in the BIOS in order for at least one to be recognized01:38
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BluesKajif you run 2 cards01:38
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coz_hey guys quick queston,, i see the kernel thing is fixed but wondering if yo ubroke the wacom tablet driver  because I just fresh installed feisty and have been trying to get the wacom driver working for about a half hour now01:39
misfit-toyman these little cigars smoke too quick, now I'm back here, sheesh. ;p01:39
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misfit-toycoz_, I had the opposite, it wanted to put the wacom in my xorg and I kept having to remove it...dunno, sorry, no help from me01:40
coz_misfit-toy, ok01:40
coz_misfit-toy, what problem are you having with the wacom driver01:40
misfit-toycoz_, so you have a tablet?01:40
coz_misfit-toy, yes01:40
coz_so do my clients01:40
BluesKajya gotta quit that cigar thing  ,misfit-toy01:40
ExienHi, I have an issue and was wondering if someone could help me. I have a secondary monitor which has a native resolution of 1680x1050 and its plugged in to my laptop. Before on Edgy it would automatically go to the resolution of 1680x1050 when the second monitor was plugged in but now that I'm on Feisty it won't do it at all. I also went to Xubuntu so I'm not sure if the issue has to do with XFCE or not. Could someone help me figure out01:40
Exienhow I can get this right? :(01:40
misfit-toycoz_, I don't have a tablet that's why it was weird that it kept putting it in there.01:40
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coz_misfit-toy, its in there by default01:41
misfit-toyah01:41
coz_but not enabled misfit-toy01:41
misfit-toyI just kept nuking it until it stuck, heheh01:41
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misfit-toycoz_, so you have artsy clients running unbuntu?01:41
coz_misfit-toy, well it does nothing unitl you actually enable it in three settings there so01:41
misfit-toy*ubuntu01:41
otixExien: DVI or VGA?01:41
coz_misfit-toy, I have disabled clients that need to use the tablet01:42
misfit-toycoz_, so you go in xorg.conf and enable and what happens?01:42
coz_misfit-toy, well you have to find the event for the table in /dev/input and on fesity it is event401:42
Exienotix, Its VGA01:43
misfit-toyand?01:43
coz_then you have to writes that into three places in the xorg restart x then it should work01:43
misfit-toycoz_, interesting, did it work in edgy?01:43
coz_misfit-toy, yeah and it worked in feisty the other day as well unitl this kernel thingy happened01:43
misfit-toygrrr01:43
misfit-toyI wish I knew more about tablets in linux, I just have never had one, but surely someone here knows.01:44
coz_i am wondering if they broke the wacom driver in the process of fixing the kernel01:44
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otixExien: ok.  I just did mine on DVI & I had to tell xorg.conf to ignore EDID01:44
coz_misfit-toy, I have an old graphire 2 if you want it01:44
Exienotix, Oh I don't know what that is, but thanks.01:44
misfit-toycoz_, from what I understand all they fixed in the kernel was ata settings.01:44
misfit-toycoz_, I DO!!!01:45
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coz_misfit-toy, mm   well yesterday everytime I restarted I had to reinstall the nvidia drivers01:45
misfit-toycoz_, are you running the 15 kernel -generic?01:45
coz_misfit-toy, to day after fresh install an updates that seems to be holding01:45
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coz_misfit-toy, yes01:45
coz_misfit-toy, 2.6.20-1501:46
misfit-toycoz_, and nvidia doesn't blow up, just the tablet part? or you get that ugly X error?01:46
coz_misfit-toy, no errors at all just the tablet driver refuses to kick in   cat event finds the event fine enough but it wont' kick in at all01:46
misfit-toyew01:47
coz_earlier i was haveing difficulty installing edgy because of this error   /bin/sh : cant access TTY; job control turned off01:47
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coz_I figured that one out but now the wacom thing can only be two things my error , which it isn't m, or kernel error with wacom driver01:48
coz_so let me try this thing again ,,, restart .. see if it kicks in01:49
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eagles0513875what pkg do i download to change direct rendering from no to yes for an nvidia gpu in feisty01:50
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misfit-toywhen coz_ returns http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29253301:51
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TheVaultI got a question. I'm using that extension that allows the pages to be read to you when you highlight the text and click read. Its CLC Free TTS extension for Firefox. I'm using the Java version right now, but Orca sounds more clear and is easier to understand. Problem is, when I had orca enabled, when I'm clicking a menu on my desktop or something, orca is saying everything, which I only want it to work in Firefox, is there a fix01:52
TheVault for this?01:52
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Comrade_Sergeiif i have a feisty cd can i use it to upgrade to it without reinstalling? (im on breezy)01:53
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misfit-toyComrade_Sergei, I'm not sure you can go from breezy to feisty, someone here will know though.01:54
eagles0513875Comrade_Sergei: open up a command line and type in sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:54
Comrade_Sergeiok01:54
Comrade_Sergeihold on01:54
eagles0513875ok01:54
eagles0513875Comrade_Sergei: do u have feisty repositories01:54
eagles0513875added to adept list01:54
Comrade_Sergeilol i have 1. breezy and 2. ubuntu so synaptic lol01:55
Comrade_Sergeiwhat is the apt line for feisty?01:55
eagles0513875u want to add the feisty repositories first01:55
eagles0513875!source-o-matic01:55
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:55
Comrade_Sergeiits complaining the packages are held back01:55
eagles0513875go to that site and it generates the scripts for the version u want the repository scripts for01:56
eagles0513875then add them to the synaptics list01:56
Comrade_Sergeiill check it out brb01:56
eagles0513875ok01:56
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Comrade_Sergeiok got it now where in the /etc is that list01:57
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Ace2016Hi all01:57
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Ace2016can anyone help me setup my mouse, its not working properly01:57
Ace2016it has a scroll ball instead of a wheel01:58
Comrade_Sergeicool01:58
Ace2016the horizontal movement of the mouse does the same thing as the vertical movement01:58
Ace2016when i rotate it up and down it scrolls up and down in websites and stuff01:58
BluesKajComrade_Sergei,  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list in the runbox01:58
Ace2016but when i rotate it horizontally it still also scrolls up and down01:59
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Ace2016when i scroll horizontally it scrolls up and down faster than when i use vertical scrolling01:59
Ace2016can someone help01:59
Comrade_Sergeii was gonna say its read only02:00
Ace2016xev says that buttons 6 and 7 are also 4 and 502:00
BluesKajAce2016, kde or gnome?02:00
Comrade_SergeiBluesKaj i run gnome with ubuntu02:00
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Ace2016BluesKaj: kde02:00
Comrade_Sergeiisnt it gksudo?02:00
misfit-toyBluesKaj, good question, LOL02:00
misfit-toy:)02:00
Ace2016BluesKaj: does it matter? since xorg controls the mouse02:00
BluesKajyup02:00
Ace2016how does it matter?02:01
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BluesKajyoucan do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ...and run thru that  to setup the mouse , if you wish02:02
Comrade_SergeiBluesKaj can i get the gnome command for editing the sources.list02:02
snowpunk98How do I create the lowest level user with no sudo rights, only able to login and use whats been installed and configured02:03
BluesKajComrade_Sergei,  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in the runbox02:03
Comrade_Sergeity you run kde huh?02:03
eagles0513875Comrade_Sergei: did that help ya out02:03
Comrade_Sergeiim working on it02:03
eagles0513875kool02:04
eagles0513875sry i couldnt help ya with ubuntu commands i use kubuntu02:04
Comrade_Sergeiut oh its blank!02:04
eagles0513875that means u typed it in wrong02:04
eagles0513875try cd /etc02:04
BluesKajmaybe the wrong editor02:05
eagles0513875possibly02:05
Comrade_Sergeiwtf no its not02:05
Comrade_Sergeihold on02:05
eagles0513875what other editors u have installed on ur comp02:05
Comrade_Sergeigedit02:05
clouder`grrsnowpunk98: I think under System -> Administration -> Users and Groups, you can view the user's properties and check or uncheck any privileges you want them to have02:05
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Comrade_Sergeiits /etc/apt right?02:05
eagles0513875try cd /etc/apt02:06
BluesKajlook in the menu for advanced text editor02:06
BluesKajyup02:06
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eagles0513875ttyl guys02:07
BluesKajComrade_Sergei, ' gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list '02:07
Comrade_Sergeiits blank when i access it with a cli but its all there when i use nautilus to do it!02:07
misfit-toyComrade_Sergei, just "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"02:07
Comrade_Sergeimisfit got it02:07
Comrade_Sergeicool02:07
Comrade_Sergeiso just add the feisty ones to the bottom?02:07
eagles0513875yep02:08
BluesKajyeah misfit to the rescue ... I usually use the run box to access the text editor02:08
eagles0513875save it then run the update command02:08
Comrade_Sergeirun box lol02:08
eagles0513875then run dist-upgrade02:08
llamakcanyway to stop apache2, phpbb, wordpress from removal when moving to feisty? tried the update-manager method, and manually with apt-get dist-upgrade.02:08
llamakcoh and hello02:08
Comrade_Sergei!pastebin02:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:10
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beg1689sup02:11
Comrade_Sergeii got errors!02:11
beg1689i have a question about libpam-keyring02:11
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misfit-toyComrade_Sergei, you have to delete the breezy ones02:11
beg1689i have it enabled so that when i log into gnome my defualt keyring is unlocked02:11
Comrade_Sergeioh lol02:11
Ace2016if i'm using the nvidia drivers should i enable "framebuffer device interface" what does this do??? the xserver i use us XGL02:11
beg1689but im trying to use xfce (xubuntu, whatever) on the same computer, but it wont unlock the keyring02:12
feistymanHello, can anyone help me find a couple of file the ubuntu team want to check? They are:  /etc/network/interfaces  and02:12
feistyman/var/log/daemon.log  Anyone know where I can find them?02:12
beg1689gnome startup stuff is enabled in xfce02:12
beg1689find?02:13
beg1689they are exactly where you said02:13
BluesKajactually it's easier sometimes just editing by deleting everything in the sources list and copy and pasting the latest sources list into the file02:13
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feistymanbeg1689, how do I get to them. I just pasted what they asked for02:13
Comrade_Sergeihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16033/    the error02:13
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beg1689im not exactly sure what you mean...02:14
beg1689in nautilus just go to "filesystem"02:14
beg1689and open the folders02:14
feistymanbeg1689, apologies for my ignorance.02:14
beg1689just be more specific02:14
feistymanIs it called filesystem?02:15
feistymanIs it in "system"02:15
beg1689open up computer02:15
beg1689in places02:15
Comrade_SergeiBluesKaj misfit-toy: have you seen the problem im getting its like my box isnt even looking at the repos02:15
feistymanok02:15
beg1689open filesystem02:15
SonicVIBEanyone using ubuntu 7.04 for a dvr yet?02:15
misfit-toyComrade_Sergei, after you delete the breezy ones then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"02:16
beg1689that is /02:16
feistymanI don't see "filesystem" there02:16
beg1689in computer?02:16
Comrade_Sergeiok there we go02:16
BluesKajfeistyman "/etc/apt/network/interfaces"...use your fav text editor to access the file02:16
feistymanok02:16
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feistymanchecking...02:16
Comrade_Sergeimisfit-toy will this upgrade me to feisty from the cd?02:16
beg1689apt?02:16
misfit-toyComrade_Sergei, no, from the net02:17
llamakcany suggestions on pinning apache2 before dist-upgrading? all the package managers want to remove it02:17
BluesKajComrade_Sergei, make sure adept isn't still open02:17
misfit-toyComrade_Sergei, to upgrade if you have a cd you should just be able to boot to it and pick "upgrade" during the install.02:17
misfit-toydidn't know you had a cd.02:17
beg1689in a text editor or file browser or whatever, if your using regular ubuntu, look for the "Filesystem" button02:17
Comrade_Sergeilol\02:17
Comrade_Sergeilet me try02:18
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BluesKajhe has to apt-get update after editing the sources list before he can install anything02:18
Comrade_Sergeimisfit-toy i am at breezy right now though does that matter?02:18
misfit-toyBluesKaj, I already told him that02:18
RedRoseHow can I create a module from an already existing one? I.E. The Toshiba ACPI support?02:18
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misfit-toyComrade_Sergei, see what the install says, if it will upgrade then yes.02:18
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BluesKajok good , just checking , misfit-toy02:19
Comrade_Sergeiill be back if it doesnt work lol02:19
misfit-toyComrade_Sergei, say that with a Swarzenegger accent!02:19
feistymanI found the   /etc/network/interfaces  file..    How do I find the  /var/log/daemon.log02:20
BluesKajcomrade ...ove that nick :)02:20
beg1689same way you found that one02:21
SonicVIBEhey fellas i got this box that i want to install 7.04 when it is released later this week02:21
SonicVIBEthe primary purpose of it is for a dvr02:21
feistymanI think I found them both. Thanks guys02:21
beg1689why wait?02:21
beg1689dvr...02:21
SonicVIBEi'm curious partitions i want to use02:21
beg1689you mean how much to give to ubuntu?02:22
SonicVIBEits a ~200gb hd02:22
SonicVIBEyeah02:22
beg1689you wont need more than 5 gb02:22
beg1689i have tons of stuff installed and im at 3.202:22
BluesKajmisfit-toy , I don't think  he can go directly from breezy to feisty02:22
misfit-toyBluesKaj, I don't know at all, the install will tell him.02:22
beg1689i have 20gb set aside for ubuntu but i wish i didnt give it so much02:22
SonicVIBEso maybe 10 max?02:23
beg1689yea, i think 10 is plenty02:23
beg1689pesonally id probably do 5 or 6, not sure how much mythv wants for its databases though02:24
SonicVIBEi have seen guides for installing mythtv on ubuntu, will i have much difficulty?02:24
RedRoseHow can I create a module from an already existing one? I.E. The Toshiba ACPI support?02:24
feistymanThanks, beg1689, and thanks BluesKaj02:24
SonicVIBEi really don't know much but am a quick learner and can rtfm02:24
IdleOneSonicVIBE: rtfm is not a valid or accepted answer in the Ubuntu world02:25
SonicVIBEheh02:25
SonicVIBEokay.02:25
IdleOne!mythtv02:25
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV02:25
IdleOnethere you go02:25
SonicVIBEthanks02:26
IdleOnenow go RTFM lmao02:26
IdleOne:P02:26
BluesKajmisfit-toy, I just checked nextdoor at #kubuntu... quote : i guess in theory, if you updated sources manually, but definately NOT a good idea02:26
IdleOnemisfit-toy: leep-frogging versions especially several version like that is a very bad idea02:26
misfit-toyBluesKaj, but he's doing it from cd, not net, the install will tell him if it isn't going to work.02:27
misfit-toyIdleOne, I said that at the outset02:27
misfit-toyhe's the one that wanted to continue, so be it.02:27
IdleOnemisfit-toy: you can backup /home and any other important files then do i clean install02:27
IdleOneand restore the files02:28
RedRoseHow can I create a module from an already existing one(to get a .mo)? I.E. The Toshiba ACPI support? Do I have to rebuild the kernel?02:28
misfit-toyIdleOne, of course you can, he wanted to upgrade straightaway, I told him not a good idea, that it probably wouldn't work, he wanted to try, his deal.02:28
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Comrade_Sergeinope it gives me an error02:29
Comrade_Sergeiwhat were those 2 commands again guys?02:29
IdleOnemisfit-toy: he was warned :)02:30
Comrade_Sergeinm i think i got it02:30
Comrade_Sergeihow longs this going to take assuming im on a 256k line and running breezy badger?02:31
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=== r00tintheb0x whines
r00tintheb0xanyone feel like listening to some whining02:32
r00tintheb0x?02:32
Comrade_Sergeigot any cheese?02:32
BluesKajIdleOne, how does one back up /home ...it's a pretty large file on my pc at least ?02:32
r00tintheb0xtar -cjf home.tar.gz /home02:32
Comrade_Sergeii really should take the time and learn all these unix switches02:33
Comrade_Sergeidamn windows02:33
r00tintheb0xyou'll never learn them like that02:33
r00tintheb0xyou just have to keep using it.02:33
r00tintheb0xi know like 1/16th of the flags and ive been a serious *NIX user for about 6 years02:34
BluesKajr00tintheb0x, where is the backup file stored and then retrieved ?02:34
r00tintheb0xBluesKaj, tape02:34
Comrade_Sergeilol im taking a nux class next year for that02:34
r00tintheb0xcompengi, i'd sugguest you output it to a different partition.02:34
SonicVIBEalright, i was never good with knowing how much to dedicate partitions02:34
r00tintheb0xComrade_Sergei, learn bacula... its what i use @ work.02:34
BluesKajnot on my system it won't :)02:35
r00tintheb0xim sure they'll test yo on it.02:35
Comrade_Sergeiand to think ive been with ubuntu ever since warty and debian woody and i still dont get it02:35
Comrade_Sergeiwhat is bacula?02:35
SonicVIBEis 256 ideal for swap size?02:36
Comrade_Sergeino02:36
Comrade_Sergeii think the ideal is like 2 gb02:36
r00tintheb0xSonicVIBE, how much ram do you have?02:36
r00tintheb0xno02:36
SonicVIBE51202:36
r00tintheb0xrule of thumb.02:36
SonicVIBEthats what i thought02:37
Comrade_Sergeiwell its ram x3 right02:37
r00tintheb0xamount of ram x 1.502:37
Comrade_Sergeioh!02:37
r00tintheb0xnooo way lol02:37
r00tintheb0x;)02:37
r00tintheb0xsome people do that, but if you have a system using 3GB of ram, you need more ram.02:37
Comrade_Sergeii have 1.5 gb ram and it made mine 2 gb si thats why i guess02:37
r00tintheb0xi mean swap*02:37
Comrade_Sergeiid think if you had 3 gb of ram there wouldnt be much paging going on02:38
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r00tintheb0xnegative02:38
r00tintheb0xi have a gig of ram, and i have like... 1G of swap02:38
r00tintheb0x1:1 ratop02:38
r00tintheb0xratio*02:38
r00tintheb0xservers, i use (amount of ram x 1.5)02:38
SonicVIBEokay02:38
Comrade_Sergeibut you hardly touch it unless your bombing the system02:38
Comrade_Sergeiso do my servers02:39
BluesKaj1G ram , 1G swap ...that's what "experts" told me02:39
r00tintheb0xwell02:39
Comrade_Sergeiw/e02:39
r00tintheb0xheh02:39
r00tintheb0xI SAY.02:39
r00tintheb0xthats a waste of disk space.02:39
NaddiseoSo my 3GB swap is overkill?02:39
r00tintheb0xyou go tell those experts, i said they're wasteful02:39
Comrade_Sergeiif you had 1 gb of ram dont you think youd have a hdd thats a little larger than 1 gb02:39
r00tintheb0xoh yeah02:39
NaddiseoMeh, I have 200GB to play with02:40
r00tintheb0xif you have a gig of ram, you should have no more than a 1.5G swap space02:40
r00tintheb0xfor me, thats even overkill02:40
NaddiseoI have 1GB RAM and 3GBswap02:40
r00tintheb0xi dont use swap02:40
Comrade_Sergei120 my self and a 1 tb NAS02:40
r00tintheb0xbut i have some GOOD ram.02:40
NaddiseoI wanted to take advantage of 64bit..02:40
r00tintheb0xwhy didnt you02:40
Comrade_Sergeii tell you 64 bit linux and 1.5 gb ddr2 ram is the way to go02:40
r00tintheb0xno02:40
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misfit-toyComrade_Sergei, so what happened?02:41
r00tintheb0x64Bit SUN & 4G of ram is the way to go Comrade_Sergei02:41
r00tintheb0x;)02:41
Comrade_Sergei its loading02:41
Comrade_Sergeir00t what kind of ram rimms right?02:41
Tm_Tgbeshers: hi and welcome :)02:41
gbeshersThank you, Tm_T02:41
r00tintheb0xhi gbeshers :)02:41
Comrade_Sergeistupid rambus02:41
BluesKajComrade_Sergei, did you back up your 'important files' ?02:41
r00tintheb0xstupid disksuite02:41
h1st0I have to figure out why my server keeps going down.02:42
Comrade_Sergeii never dropped them on the hdd yet02:42
r00tintheb0xComrade_Sergei, i'd suguest you back up /var and /etc too02:42
gbeshersThx, r00tintheb0x02:42
Comrade_Sergeithis was a fresh breezy install02:42
Comrade_Sergeiwhys that?02:42
r00tintheb0x:) @ gbeshers02:42
r00tintheb0xComrade_Sergei, thats what is going to prevent/keep your system up02:42
r00tintheb0xetc/var02:42
Comrade_Sergeii got my /home dir backed up to my ipod02:42
r00tintheb0xetc & var02:42
gbeshersTrouble with nvidia driver -- anyone else getting it to load?02:42
r00tintheb0xgbeshers, yes i have, but im working form home right now or i'd help you02:43
misfit-toygbeshers, make sure you have the matching linux-restricted-drivers for your kernel02:43
Comrade_Sergeir00tintheb0x i dont really care theres nothing mission critical on here, if i get it wrong ill just redo it02:43
r00tintheb0xdownload the kernel headers you're using on ubuntu and reinstall the .sh file from NVidia02:43
beanienvidia works fine02:43
Comrade_Sergeiand come here and complain ;)02:43
r00tintheb0xComrade_Sergei, then /home is fine "the good stuff"02:43
Comrade_Sergeilol yea all 20 gb of music and customizations02:43
r00tintheb0x;)02:44
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Comrade_Sergeii customized the crap out of edgy when i had it , thank god i backed that up!02:44
Tm_Tr00tintheb0x: it's not recommended to use driver installer from nvidia when there is working drivers packaged02:44
r00tintheb0xaah sorry Tm_T02:44
r00tintheb0xgbeshers, eighty-six what i said02:44
Comrade_Sergeii wish id gone SLi now that im running ubuntu, crossfires not so hot here :(02:44
Tm_T!nvidia02:44
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:44
gbeshersmisfit-toy : Im at 2.6.20-15 -- which linux-restricted-drivers?02:45
BluesKajr00tintheb0x, what's the best way to back up /home ...to another ext partition ?02:45
r00tintheb0xBluesKaj, or on the net somewhere02:46
BluesKajno tape02:46
Comrade_Sergeiand a amd athlon fx would probably have been a better choice than my p4 2.4ghz ht02:46
r00tintheb0xBluesKaj, how big is your home02:46
BluesKaj13G02:46
r00tintheb0xi'd sugguest another partition02:46
r00tintheb0xor to a FTP/NFS server02:46
r00tintheb0xif you have a LAN.02:46
Comrade_Sergeinfs lol02:46
beaniersync ftw!02:47
gbeshersbeanie: with 2.6.20-15?  which Nvidia card are you using?02:47
BluesKajjust wifeys old 6G ,366mhz HP on the network here02:47
beaniegeforce 2 go with legacy driver :>02:47
gbeshersOk, 5950 I think really needs the new one.02:48
BluesKaj<---no work , no office ...old reitired guy02:48
r00tintheb0xheheh BluesKaj02:49
r00tintheb0xno worries02:49
beanieu need nvidia-glx... just install the package and the kernel-modules02:49
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r00tintheb0x<-------02:49
Comrade_Sergeilol02:49
BluesKajhehe02:49
Comrade_Sergeir00t what distro ubuntu right?02:49
Comrade_Sergeii assume02:49
Lunar_LampI have a package (tftpd-hpa) that I can't remove as it's "in an inconsistent state" and can't install.  Pastebin of error messages are here: http://www.pastebin.ca/index.php (I get the same erros using apt-get and aptitude, but with more lines of spam)02:49
r00tintheb0xComrade_Sergei, i use ubuntu for my personal server and home...02:49
r00tintheb0xbut im working with Solaris right now.;02:50
r00tintheb0x:)02:50
beanielol ubuntu for server...02:50
Comrade_Sergeiew02:50
r00tintheb0xmirrored root gone bad.02:50
Lunar_Lampbeanie, ubuntu works fine for home servers I've found :-)02:50
r00tintheb0xyep ubuntu for server, they do have a server install and it is molded after debian beanie02:50
SonicVIBEdoes a particular fs handle writing video files better than others?02:50
r00tintheb0xLunar_Lamp, it works good for any kinda server02:50
Comrade_Sergeii think paying for linux is kinda oxymoronic02:50
Lunar_Lampr00tintheb0x, aye, I suspet so, but I haven't used it on any other kind of server :-)02:51
BluesKajSolaris ...interesting  , heard it's a neat OS .. not much on media but fast and reliable for orgs etc02:51
beanier00tintheb0x: but for servers ubuntu is to unstable, i prefer sarge02:51
r00tintheb0xLunar_Lamp, ive used MANY distros, Ubuntu being one of my fav's02:51
r00tintheb0xbeanie, i use sarge & dapper @ work02:51
Lunar_Lampr00tintheb0x, same here :-)02:51
beaniekubuntu is the best for desktop, but not for servers02:51
Comrade_Sergeii like to show off kubuntu at lanparties02:52
Lunar_LampI have a package (tftpd-hpa) that I can't remove as it's "in an inconsistent state" and can't install.  Pastebin of error messages are here: http://www.pastebin.ca/index.php (I get the same erros using apt-get and aptitude, but with more lines of spam)02:52
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hoorayany wine users?02:52
Comrade_Sergeiheh02:52
hooray i can run an exe through wine file, but when i type the command it says it cant write to data folder, my command is- wine "c:\program files\Live for Speed S2\LFS.exe"02:53
Comrade_Sergeiyou should cd to that folder before using the wine command02:53
BluesKajhooray , sorry to say ...welcome to the wine winers club ...my install does the same thing02:54
Naddiseoor use winefile02:54
Comrade_Sergei#winehq02:54
hoorayya in there no ones answering02:54
Comrade_Sergeitypical02:54
hoorayya i want a shortcut i dont want to use winefile02:54
Naddiseodid you try escaping the spaces02:54
Comrade_Sergeijoin the club02:54
Comrade_Sergeimisfit-toy is this going to take the rest of the night?02:55
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hooraytip from bftd02:55
hooray"wine ~/.wine/driver_c/Program\ Files/Live\ for\ Speed\ s2/LFS.exe"02:55
hooraygonna test it02:55
Comrade_Sergeilol just use the tab button02:55
r00tintheb0xw00t02:55
r00tintheb0xand SHE BOOTS!02:56
=== r00tintheb0x is a freakin genius
r00tintheb0x"sun software support says: you're going to have to reinstall"02:56
r00tintheb0x"r00t says: no way man"02:56
r00tintheb0xhah02:56
=== Comrade_Sergei looks at r00t with jealosy
r00tintheb0xthank GOD i got it up!02:56
=== Comrade_Sergei and dismay
r00tintheb0xwith 4 mins to spare02:56
r00tintheb0xlol02:56
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misfit-toyComrade_Sergei, to do what?02:57
misfit-toyupgrade?02:57
Comrade_Sergeiyeas02:57
misfit-toydepends on the sped02:57
misfit-toyspeed02:57
Comrade_Sergei256k02:57
Comrade_Sergeifrom breezy02:57
vikis the current beta the RC?02:57
Comrade_Sergeilol02:57
misfit-toy40 minutes02:57
Comrade_Sergeiwhoa really omg02:57
Comrade_Sergeithat cant be right it took 5 hrs to download feisty02:58
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Comrade-Sergeiand that upgrades me to feisty huh?03:01
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Ax3people using feisty, does freenx work? if so can you point to an installation guide? : D03:01
misfit-toyComrade-Sergei, I thought you were doing it from cd????03:01
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Comrade-Sergeimisfit-toy i tried and it said error so i went back and did a dist-upgrade03:02
Comrade-Sergeithats not fatal is it! =003:02
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misfit-toyComrade-Sergei, I don't think it will be, but given the world as it is "screws fall out all the time"...so sit tight.03:09
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misfit-toyComrade-Sergei, you said it was a fresh install of breezy, why are you worried?03:10
misfit-toya fresh install means there's nothing there but OS03:10
IdleOne!freenx | Ax303:10
IdleOne!seveas | Ax303:11
ubotuAx3: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX03:11
ubotuAx3: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:11
BetaIs is there any difference between RC1 and an fully updated beta?03:11
Comrade-Sergeii tend to pwn linux by accident alot on fresh installs03:11
ShaddoxI pwn linux a lot03:11
ShaddoxBecause I'm stupid and tend to corrupt my file system03:11
BetaWell guys? Any reason to do it?03:12
Ax3hmmm thanks IdleOne03:12
Ax3will try right now03:12
Shaddoxto do what, i just got back and dont know what's going on ^^03:12
Ax3just hope i don't mess up this fresh installation of feisty03:12
IdleOneBeta: probably a couple of kernel fixes and stuff03:12
BetaHm....maybe.03:12
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IdleOneAx3: fresh install have nothing but the OS ... worst thing is you will have to install again03:13
Shaddoxi'm having a myriad of trouble with Bind myself03:13
Ax3yea but that takes forever lol03:13
IdleOneAx3: thats the fun part03:13
Ax3im going on hour 4 lol03:13
Ax3backed up 300gb of data from my edgy installation03:13
IdleOnewow03:14
Ax3just in case something goes wrong03:14
IdleOnegood idea03:14
Ax3with this feisty03:14
ShaddoxAnyone happen to know why a BIND Zone file's DNS entries aren't in the Whois db yet?03:14
Ax3yea better safe than sorry03:14
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Ax3:)03:14
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BetaAny reason my partition which only has the base install of ubuntu keeps getting more full?03:14
mister_robotoBeta: does your partition contain /var?03:14
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BetaNot sure, how do I check?03:15
BetaYeah, it does.03:15
mister_robotoBeta:  see if "/var" is mounted on something03:15
mister_robotoBeta: if not, it's alongside "/"03:15
BetaYeah, I have a var folder in my filesystem.03:16
mister_robotoBeta: or rather, a subdir on same partition   that's where all your logs go (well most of em)03:16
BetaThat'd be it. Delete it or just what I think I don't need.03:17
BetaRoboto03:17
Beta?03:17
ShaddoxBeta: IRC can lag, even when internet doesn't. Give him a few minutes to respond. I usually wait for around 10 minutes first.03:18
mister_robotoBeta: well, it shouldn't be growing huge if you're set up to trim logs, which it should be.  have a look around and see if you have a bunch of old backup logs you can delete03:18
mister_robotoShaddox: i was out of room :)03:18
ShaddoxAh, sorry then. ^^03:18
BetaIts one full gig.03:18
ShaddoxRoboto, do you happen to know anything about BIND?03:18
mister_robotoBeta: there are a few subdirs in there where stuff goes that tends to be of VARiable size03:18
mister_robotoShaddox: sorry, no03:18
mister_robotogotta go grab my pizza from oven soon03:19
ShaddoxAh crap...I've got my Bind corrected, but for some reason the Whois database doesn't hae them on file.03:19
mister_robotoBeta: have a look around in /var03:19
Ax3i did:03:19
mister_robotosorry Shaddox.03:19
Ax3wget http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -03:19
Ax3and it's just stalling....03:19
Ax3:\03:19
BetaHm.....03:19
BetaCould I remove the run Directory?03:20
seamus7hi.. when i try to install feisty ... i get something about "static memory" and loading gfx ... then it freezes ... might i have a corrupt cd or is this something else?03:20
Ax3are the community docs for freenx updated to reflect the feisty changes? :S03:20
misfit_toyfreenx was cool when I used it back in the fedora days...haven't used it in a couple of years.03:21
mister_robotoBeta: NO!03:22
BetaThen what should I remove?03:22
mister_robotoBeta: don't remove any directories. only backup files if you want03:22
BetaAh, ok. Hrm......03:23
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mister_robotoBeta: most old logs are gzipped (.gz) or have some kind of number in the extension.03:23
mister_robotoBeta: look in /var/log, for example03:23
BetaOk.03:23
Betaalso .log files?03:23
mister_robotoBeta: leave them03:24
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BetaSo just the .gz files?03:24
mister_robotoBeta: that's safa03:24
mister_robotosafe03:24
BetaArg, it didn't work. Hm. I'll just wait untill Final release, then I'll re-install and free up the space.03:25
mister_robotoBeta: what didn't work?03:25
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|rt|hey guys how can you tell if your wireless driver supports wpa?03:26
mister_robotoBeta: you will almost certainly have to be root for most of them (use sudo)03:26
BetaYeah, said I don't have permission right now. Seeing as final release is rather soon, I'll just live with it.03:26
mister_robotoBeta: you might also try "sudo apt-get autoremove"03:27
BetaWhat's that do?03:27
mister_robotoBeta: that will remove packages that were installed as dependencies at one time but are no longer needed03:27
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mister_robotoBeta: you can read about it in the man page (man apt-get)03:28
ferret_0568Is Feisty going to be released on schedule?03:28
BetaLikely not.03:29
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ferret_0568The banner above login has changed to Ubuntu 7.04, without development branch03:29
BetaOk, that freed up a little space.03:29
ferret_0568No development branch listed03:30
ferret_0568When it gets released, do you think I should reinstall, or just upgrade?03:30
mister_robotoferret_0568: upgrade from edgy worked fine03:30
Ax3 hey guys, i installed FreeNX as per the community ubuntu documentation at ubuntu.com, and when i try to login i get an error: "NX Server Disabled"03:31
ferret_0568Yeah, but that's a stable release03:31
mister_robotoferret_0568: why not try upgrade? you can always fall back to an install03:31
mister_robotoferret_0568: whqat you upgrading from?03:31
ferret_0568ok03:31
ferret_0568Feisty Development Branch to Feisty Release03:31
mister_robotoferret_0568: just get into the habit of having your /home on a separate partition :)03:32
ferret_0568I already have03:32
mister_robotoferret_0568: you're good to go then03:32
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ferret_0568What is your GTK theme's primary color?03:33
ferret_0568Silver/Gray?03:33
mister_robotoferret_0568: kde here (QT)03:33
ferret_0568Oh03:34
ferret_0568nvm03:34
ferret_0568I liked KDE, except BasKet wasn't working...I need that03:34
ferret_0568I need it so I can take Java Programming Language notes03:35
mister_robotoferret_0568: i could never get used to gnome. seemed like it was harder to tweak the interface. so i just stick with kde03:35
ferret_0568Tomboy Notes on GNOME works better than BasKet03:35
ferret_0568If the BasKet version in Feisty in new or very recent, I'll try KDE again03:35
mister_robotoferret_0568: i just use knotes for quick sticky notes stuff. have a moinmoin wiki for other, more serious notes.   i don't even know what basket is03:36
ferret_0568It is harder to tweak the interface in GNOME03:36
ferret_0568knotes isn't what I was looking for03:36
ferret_0568nor a wiki03:36
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ferret_0568knotes looks like real sticky notes, I don't like that, it's not fit for my application03:37
mister_robotoferret_0568: you a student?  i used to program java for a living.  don't code much any more03:37
ferret_0568Yeah, I'm a student03:38
ferret_0568Not in college though03:38
|rt|is there an easy way to tell if a wireless driver does or doesn't support wpa?03:38
mister_robotoferret_0568: mainframer?03:39
ferret_0568No03:39
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ferret_0568I run a web server, but that's it03:39
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|rt|Under network settings I only have WEP options for wireless security03:39
{uX}l`VampyrCeilany gnome users have problems with auto-mounting CDs?03:39
ferret_0568That's easy to fix03:39
mister_robotoferret_0568: well, have fun with it :)03:40
{uX}l`VampyrCeil(i don't use Feisty yet, but a friend told me of an 'issue' with Gnome not auto-mounting CDs)03:40
ShaddoxI automount fine03:40
ShaddoxI think ^^03:40
ferret_0568System > Preferences > Removable something03:40
ferret_0568Under "Removable Storage", you have to check all the boxes except for "Auto-open files..." and "Browse removable media when inserted"03:42
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ferret_0568Grrr...:03:49
ferret_0568travis@ubuntulaptop:/var/log$ sudo echo '---START OF KDE PACKAGE INSTALLATION---' >> dpkg.log03:49
ferret_0568Why is this not working?03:49
Amaranthferret_0568: because the echo is being run with sudo put the pipe isn't03:50
ferret_0568Oh03:50
Amarantheither run sudo bash first or run sudo sh -c "echo "message" >> dpkg.log"03:50
ferret_0568Thanks03:51
Amarantherr, but with different quotes because that won't work :)03:51
ferret_0568I know03:51
clever_Amaranth: yeah double quoting03:51
LoneShadowdo I have to report failure of upgrade from edgy to feisty because of irc-hybrid package ?03:51
clever_Amaranth: also i perfer sudo -i to get a shell03:51
Amaranthclever_: depends on what i'm doing03:51
clever_ahh03:51
clever_i use sudo -i for long term root usage03:51
clever_i also have 2 root windows open thru screen on 1 server03:52
clever_one for lvm admin and another for resize2fs after the 1st changed the lv size03:52
ferret_0568travis@ubuntulaptop:/var/log$ sudo sh -c echo '---START OF KDE PACKAGE INSTALLATION---' >> /var/log/dpkg.log03:53
ferret_0568bash: /var/log/dpkg.log: Permission denied03:53
clever_the >> part wasnt part of the whole quoting03:53
Amaranthsudo sh -c "echo 'foo' >> /var/log/dpkg.log"03:53
clever_so the bash running under travis tryed to open that log file03:53
clever_also ive seen stuff using tee03:53
clever_echo '............' | sudo tee /var/log/dpkg.log03:54
clever_that would work just as well03:54
Amaranthno03:54
clever_Amaranth: why not?03:54
clever_wait tee needs an extra append option03:54
clever_or it will whipe the log first03:54
Amaranthecho 'foo' | sudo tee -a /var/log/dpkg.log03:54
clever_yeah03:54
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ferret_0568I'll try the tee way 'tee -a'03:54
ferret_0568that worked03:55
clever_To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".03:55
clever_See "man sudo_root" for details.03:55
Ax3NX> 202 Authenticating user: nx03:56
Ax3NX> 208 Using auth method: publickey03:56
Ax3NX> 204 Authentication failed.03:56
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clever_that man page explains that tee option03:56
Ax3help!03:56
misfit-toyAx3, freenx takes some configuration, please read all the docs first.03:56
Ax3i did :S03:57
BluesKajwhat's the advantage of  /home on a seperate partition ?03:58
misfit-toyBluesKaj, you can blow away the OS and still have /home there03:59
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Smerity!xgl03:59
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:59
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BluesKajmisfit-toy, guess it's too late to make another,now that it's installed on this partition04:00
misfit-toyBluesKaj, you can move it :)04:01
misfit-toyBluesKaj, using LVM?04:02
BluesKajLVM ?04:02
misfit-toylogical volume mgr04:03
misfit-toythe default for ubuntu04:03
misfit-toysome people don't so I thought I'd ask.04:04
misfit-toyyou might want to read this: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/04:04
BluesKajok, thx misfit-toy ...checking it out04:04
misfit-toygrooovayyyy04:05
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SmerityHard ask - what's the cleanest way to install XGL/AIGLX etc? I just want one which doesn't require way too much fuss04:07
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misfit-toySmerity, I will send you the one link that made most sense to me, but there are hundreds, still this one made most sense, but only if you have nvidia?04:08
Smeritymisfit-toy, Nvidia I do have - and thanks ^_^04:08
crdlbSmerity, nvidia waht?04:09
crdlbwhat*04:09
Smeritycrdlb, I assume he means an Nvidia card + using Nvidia binary driver04:09
misfit-toySmerity, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/02/06/install-beryl-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-aiglx-for-nvidia-ubuntu-704/04:09
Smeritymisfit-toy, excellent mate - will run through it now - thanks ^_^04:10
misfit-toyand Smerity on the section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable", you may have to take that out, depends on your card...04:10
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misfit-toyalso Smerity I have my xorg.conf which you can tweak if you want me to post it...just let me know.04:11
crdlbSmerity, I was asking what nvidia card do you have?04:11
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misfit-toycrdlb, was a big help04:11
misfit-toyas was RAOF, who appears to be offline atm.04:11
Smeritycrdlb, from memory only like a 6600, but with 256MB of DDR304:11
SmerityThink it was 6600 at least ... hmmz.04:11
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ferret_0568That'll run Beryl good04:12
crdlbSmerity, it's actually like a three-step process, most of that guide doesn't apply anymore or is unncessarily complicated04:12
SmerityYeps, 660004:12
ferret_0568I can give you tips to speed Beryl up04:12
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ferret_0568I have a NVIDIA GeForce 4, so I don't use Beryl much04:13
misfit-toyferret_0568, same here04:13
misfit-toyferret_0568, but by god I got it working! lol04:13
Smeritylol04:13
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ferret_0568Is Feisty's NVIDIA module the latest?04:14
crdlbSmerity, the most important points are to install nvidia-glx-new (that'll get you version 9755), and that beryl is in universe now04:14
misfit-toythe cool thing is that some of those settings for beryl actually speed up an old nvidia card anyway with all the new xorg and nvidia drivers, so I am happy without beryl but faster vid.04:14
ferret_0568I was dumb, and installed the official NVIDIA module04:14
ferret_0568How do I get the official Xorg files back?04:14
crdlbSmerity, and you can set up your xorg.conf with: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2404:14
Smeritycrdlb, thanks mate - didn't even know of nvidia-glx-new04:15
misfit-toySmerity, just listen to crdlb and forget the link I sent you, it really only helps us guys with older nvidia cards.04:15
ferret_0568What link?04:15
crdlbferret_0568, first you need to uninstall it04:15
Smeritymisfit-toy, fair enough =] 04:16
ferret_0568Can you give me a guide?04:16
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ferret_0568A txt file on some web server somewhere?04:17
crdlbferret_0568, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy#HOW_TO_UNINSTALL_THE_DRIVER_.28FROM_METHOD_2.2904:17
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Smeritycrdlb, should I add "Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" ?04:17
crdlbSmerity, no it's not needed04:18
crdlbthe only thing you need to do with your xorg.conf is run that command I posted04:18
SmerityAh ok04:18
ferret_0568Thanks04:19
ferret_0568I'm going to put that link on my web server for later reading04:19
misfit-toycrdlb, be aware that that is only true with newer cards, my older card required the Option"XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"04:19
misfit-toyOption"AllowGLXWithComposite""True"04:19
crdlbyeah the older nvidia drivers required a lot more04:20
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misfit-toyyep, and I have the xorg.conf to prove it, anybody wants it I will send it.04:21
misfit-toytook forever.04:21
misfit-toyin fact, I'm going to test something right now....just thought about it...biab, and a smoke break too.04:21
SmerityCool, apting xserver-xgl beryl-ubuntu atm04:21
misfit-toythanks crdlb for all your help in the past.04:22
crdlbSmerity, no need for xgl04:22
crdlbnp04:22
SmerityOh right lol04:22
crdlbwhat is beryl-ubuntu?04:22
SmerityIt's on there now anyway04:22
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Smerityberyl, beryl-core, *plugins etc etc - I think it's just a generic conglomerate package04:23
crdlb!info beryl-ubuntu04:23
ubotuberyl-ubuntu: Simplified Plugin and configuration tool - Beryl Project. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1+git20070318-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB04:23
misfit_toycrdlb, yup, if I leave out the XANNOffScreenPixmaps, I can see a speed diff...04:24
Smeritybrb, restarting X - thanks for your help so far crdlb and misfit_toy =] 04:24
crdlbmisfit_toy, it's slower w/o ?04:24
misfit_toycrdlb, yes04:25
crdlbwell I know that compiz doesn't need that line at all anymore04:25
misfit_toycrdlb, you have to remember, this card has only 32MB, and every tweak makes a diff.04:25
misfit_toycrdlb, I'm just talking about regular use, no beryl or compiz04:26
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misfit_toycrdlb, let me test beryl with and without real quick04:26
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Comrade-Sergeiits still going04:29
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boris55hello04:32
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reikiok... how do I change a volume name as seen in Places?04:33
Comrade-Sergeistill going!04:33
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misfit_toycrdlb, yeah, without that "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "True" there is a huge slowdown04:33
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crdlbmisfit_toy, what about with compiz?04:34
derek_Hi04:34
misfit_toybut this is a ancient laptop04:34
ferret_0568Opps04:34
boris55is there going to be a fiesty release candidate?04:34
ferret_0568I'll need to add that option back04:34
jpsamarathis option does anti aliasing by software?04:34
misfit_toycrdlb, with compiz it's the same either way, it appears to be needed for beryl.04:34
derek_I installed fglrx-control through apt-get, but when I try to run it "fglrx-control", I get: bash: Command not found04:34
misfit_toycrdlb, but remember this is an OLD nvidia card, I don't want people to read this and change their xorg04:34
crdlbmisfit_toy, I've heard that option has undesirable side-effects (which is why it isn't in by default and why compiz was fixed not to need it)04:35
crdlbI have no idea what those are though04:35
crdlbderek_, what video card?04:36
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derek_ATI Radeon Xpress 200M04:36
ferret_0568What "undesirable side-effects?"04:37
derek_fglrx is working04:37
crdlb!info fglrx-control04:37
ubotufglrx-control: Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 8.34.8+2.6.20.5-15.20 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 344 kB04:37
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crdlb!find /usr/bin/fglrx-control04:37
reikiok... how do I change a volume name as seen in Places? tune2fs does not seem to work, neither does e2label04:37
ubotuPackage/file /usr/bin/fglrx-control does not exist in feisty04:37
atselbycan anyone tell me where theres an option to have windows automatically stay in their respectieve workspaces/04:37
boris55is there going to be a feisty RC?04:37
ferret_0568I dunno04:38
derek_does not exist in feisty??04:38
ferret_0568All I know is, Feisty is great right now04:38
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ferret_0568It's very stable04:38
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boris55reading the previews.04:38
AshbringerHello, network manager killed my sound. How do I reactivate the PCI interrupt?04:38
philwyettboris55: There is a release candidate iso's https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2007-April/000734.html04:38
atselbyferret_0568: i agree, save the kernel problem yesterday, its been working perfect.04:38
boris55are the server and client going to be two different distros?04:38
atselbyphilwyett: the beta will just upgrade toe the RC right/04:39
derek_crdlb, ?04:39
crdlbderek_, run fireglcontrol04:39
beg1689just different default packages04:39
philwyettatselby: Yes, but testing the release iso's clean is a good idea.04:39
boris55lamp preinstalled is sweet.04:39
atselbyphilwyett: i dont have a second machine to test it on so i cant... otherwise i would though.04:39
derek_crdlb, cool. how did you find that ?04:40
crdlbhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=fglrx-control&version=feisty&arch=i38604:40
derek_crdlb, I thought all packages ran by their name04:40
philwyettatselby: No problem. As I can see the RC is very much like the beta in most ways and suffers from the same issues.04:40
crdlbderek_, no they run by whatever the binary happens to be called04:40
atselbyphilwyett: finals still on schedule right?04:40
jpsamaraI still hope for 19th thought04:41
philwyettatselby: Yes, release on Thursday04:41
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derek_I have an external monitor set up. But when it is not plugged in, the firefox window opens outside the scope of the primary monitor. And I cannot access it. Any way to bring it here?04:41
AshbringerI'm serious people, Network Manager killed my sound, and I have the logs to rove it04:41
atselbyphilwyett: great then, as long as there's nothing that's really horrible Feisty should be near perfect.04:41
atselbyon another subject.. Anyone here ever found a good bluetooth package/04:41
ferret_0568It's so close to release, the development release banner has been removed above the login program04:42
jpsamaraAshbringer: network-manager is evil I believe in you04:42
derek_crdlb, ok04:42
Ashbringerjpsamara: Do you know how I can get the PCI interrupt back?04:42
ferret_0568NetworkManager works fine on my computer04:42
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Ashbringerferret_0568: just wait...04:42
philwyettatselby: It is very good as can be seen by the beta. The only real annoyance is the timezone mess up during install that is timestamping the hdd wrong and forcing a fsck at restart. :-(04:43
ferret_0568All through Edgy and Feisty04:43
jpsamaraAshbringer: reboot doesn't work for you?04:43
ferret_0568I got my wireless card while Feisty was in development04:43
ferret_0568While I was still using Edgy04:43
atselbyphilwyett: i didnt do a fresh install so i hadn't heard of that... i know i didnt see any problems in the upgrade that were caused by the upgrade itself. the only problem was on my end. XD04:43
ferret_0568brb04:43
ferret_0568Going into KDE04:44
philwyettatselby: I'm not a big fan of version to version upgrades and will only release do them when moving from a current release into the development toolchain for the next release.04:45
Ashbringerjpsamara: it works when I reboot04:46
atselbyphilwyett: Well so far they've gone pretty smoothly. I figure theres two reasons to do it: Someone has to in beta, and I dont want to mess with lots of backups.04:47
Ashbringerjpsamara: I just want to bring back the interrupt while I'm still booted04:47
jpsamaraEven though I could dist upgrade to feisty I will format and start from a cleanslate04:47
jpsamaraAshbringer: cant help ya then... I dunno04:47
Ashbringerjpsamara: okay, thanks anyway04:48
dfgasi have a laptop with  geforce 6100 go  and my brightness controls don't work.... FN+ up or down.      how do i fix this?04:48
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ferret_0567_ok, I'm back04:49
derek_dfgas, what is up or down? arrow keys? For me it is Fn + F7 or F804:49
derek_wb04:49
dfgasarrow yah04:49
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Naddiseohow do I eject a cd via command line?05:00
crdlbNaddiseo, eject05:00
NaddiseoIt wont05:00
NaddiseoThe light just keeps flashes05:01
Naddiseoflashing*05:01
crdlbis it mounted?05:01
NaddiseoIt wont mount either05:01
Naddiseono05:01
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Naddiseocrdlb, When I click eject, it tells me there's no media mounted05:04
crdlbNaddiseo, I meant type it05:04
Naddiseowhich seems illogical... because I didn't mount it yet.05:04
cblack0so, I need a quick adept/apt tip: how do I JUST update all ALREADY INSTALLED packages to the newer versions05:05
crdlbcblack0, sudo apt-get upgrade05:05
crdlbonly dist-upgrade installs new packages iirc05:06
cblack0crdlb: what do I check in adept to do that?05:06
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cblack0"Full Upgrade"?05:06
crdlbprolly not05:06
crdlbbut I have no idea05:06
Naddiseocrdlb, eject -sv just hangs05:06
cleverwhat would cause this error?05:10
cleverThe following packages have been kept back: linux-386 linux-headers-generic linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 nfs-common05:10
Naddiseoyou need to dist-upgrade for those don't you?05:10
|rt|clever: you can just do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:11
cleverallready done it a few times05:11
BetaSensor aplet is working under Feisty, right?05:11
crdlbclever, are you using -386?05:11
cleverodd now its somewhat fixing it05:11
cleveryeah pentium 305:11
crdlbas in not -generic?05:11
cleverbut its still doing this05:11
cleverThe following packages have been kept back: nfs-common05:11
crdlbyou should still use generic05:11
clever?05:12
crdlblinux-image-generic05:12
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cleveri think its allways been showing 386 on me05:13
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cleverlinux-image-generic installing...05:15
cleverand my X server either has a mem leak or its memory space is getting fragmented05:16
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zYe_help configuring my 7 button mouse05:18
joshjosh7 buttons? one for each finger?05:18
cleverhow many fingers?:P05:18
tonyyarusso!mouse05:19
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto05:19
clevermost i have on a mouse is 7 counting wheel up and down and click as buttons05:19
clever2 left 2 right wheel up/down/click05:19
r00tintheb0xanyone know how i can remedy this?: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/6920805:20
ubotuMalone bug 69208 in Ubuntu "Bug #42299 survives on upgrade from Dapper Drake to Edgy (dup-of: 42299)" [Medium,Confirmed] 05:20
ubotuMalone bug 42299 in update-manager "No /etc/mkinitramfs/conf.d/resume after ubiquity installation" [Undecided,Needs info] 05:20
r00tintheb0xnevermind05:20
r00tintheb0xlol05:20
r00tintheb0xthe answer is there05:20
cleverlol05:20
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misfit_toy!botsnack05:23
ubotuYum!05:23
cleverlol05:23
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joshjoshIs Feisty still on schedule for the 19th? I know RC got pushed back...05:24
clevermy wireless has become unstable since i upgraded to 7.0405:25
zYe_i still need help configuring my mouse, i have tried many different setups and they are still giving me trouble05:25
cleverat first it just plain didnt work(module was black listed:P)05:26
bullgard4After one of the last upgrades my Feisty shows all tooltips with a gray background color. Is this an error or intended?05:26
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zYe_O_o05:26
seamus7Why would my feisty desktop cd freeze on boot up ... i get messages like "initializing gfx mode" and something about static memory malloc 1, 2, 3, etc..... ???05:27
joshjoshseamus7, are you booting with any commands/05:29
seamus7not that i'm aware05:29
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misfit_toyseamus7, there is a memtest option on boot, you might try that05:31
seamus7misfit_toy: my system boots perfectly into edgy or vista but when i try to boot up a feisty desktop cd .. i get the messages above ... so you think i might have a problem with my memory?05:32
misfit_toyseamus7, not after you saying that I don't05:32
joshjoshseamus7, boot with noapic nolapic and see if that works05:32
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Dr_willisive had systems with bad memory that would boot windows.. but memtest found bad 'things'05:33
seamus7joshjosh: how?05:33
Dr_willisnot that windows would run very long. :) but it crashed so much anyway.. i dident notice much differance.05:33
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seamus7joshjosh: do i go to a command line from grub ??05:33
joshjoshwhen you egt the start or install screen, press F6 and add noapic nolapic to the end of it05:33
joshjoshend of that line05:33
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seamus7joshjosh: oops sorry ... i wasn't clear ... i don't even get to a start or install screen ... it's a text screen that says something like "linuxos debian 3.1" at the top and then the "initializing gfx mode" and "static memory" messages below.05:35
seamus7then it freezes05:35
cleverDr_willis: i had bad ram acording to memtest and it made winblows bluescreen after a few days05:35
cleverDr_willis: i moved the ram chip to the 2nd socket and it went away05:35
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joshjoshseamus7, hmm...05:35
seamus7i've checked the iso image md5sum05:35
cleverDr_willis: moving back to the 1st socket and it didnt come back05:35
Dr_willisclever,  yep. been there done that.. had a bad socket also.. may of been dirt..05:35
zYe_could someone please help me fix this mouse05:36
zYe_please05:36
Dr_willisor corrision05:36
cleverDr_willis: yeah might have been dirt on mine since just moving the chip fixed it05:36
cleverable to get 2week+ uptimes on there now with xp05:36
misfit_toyfurballs05:36
Dr_willisclever,  its amazing how FILTHY the insides of a PC can get.05:36
cleveraslong as xp doesnt install and update and reboot itself without warning05:36
cleverDr_willis: yeah05:36
cleverDr_willis: also my laptop05:36
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cleverDr_willis: filled with hair and bits of food05:37
Dr_willisdead mice is always nice to find.05:37
misfit_toyand snakes@05:37
Dr_willisI have Pomerianians.. i find like.. whole dogs in my pc's :)05:37
zYe_so no one here uses any mouse configurations on feisty?05:37
cleveri pulled all the keys off my keyboard and got a small vile worth of hair balls out of it05:37
zYe_wow05:37
Dr_williszYe_,  clarify the issue perhaps. Ive had no issues with my mice ever with any of the ubuntus05:37
`sam`clever, did you actually put them in a vile?05:37
misfit_toyzYe_, no mice special sutff...what kind of mouse?05:38
seamus7i've downloaded a feisty alternate cd .. i think i'll burn it and try using it05:38
cleveri was putting all the hair and clumps of dirt into a plastic vile05:38
clevermade a fair sized lump05:38
zYe_optical intellimouse05:38
cleverzYe_: wireless?05:38
zYe_no05:38
cleverahh sounded like my 7button one05:38
zYe_cleaver, it should be currently emulating 7 buttons05:39
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zYe_cleaver, but at the moment the 6 and 7en are mimicking the 4,5th05:39
Dr_williszYe_,  so the mouse 'works' but not all the buttons are doing what you want them to do?05:39
cleverhavent tryed using all the buttons at once on ubuntu 6.0605:39
zYe_yes05:39
cleverand cant connect it to the 7.04 box05:39
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zYe_it was working on edgy eft05:40
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Dr_willisI recall some intensive gentoo wiki pages/docs on configurung all these multi-button mice and all the little tips/gottyas to watch out for. but the only thing i use extra buttons for is grenades and stuff in Quake3 :)05:40
cleverlol05:40
zYe_thats what i am trying to do05:40
zYe_exactly05:41
misfit_toyzYe_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17139605:41
cleverever used xev?05:41
zYe_grenades in tribes with my 6th and suicide button for 7th05:41
zYe_O_o05:41
cleverthe xev program will output alot of X events that come its way05:42
cleverincluding what button/key is being pressed in it05:42
clever    state 0x0, button 3, same_screen YES05:42
cleverthats from hitting the right mouse button05:42
zYe_hmmm05:43
cleverleft is 1 and middle is 205:43
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cleverto get the click events without the flood of move ones just pick the mouse off the table when clicking05:44
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seamus7once i get feisty installed .. will it update to the official release on thursday?05:45
zYe_brb going to test something05:45
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misfit_toyseamus7, it will update whenever there's an update05:46
misfit_toybeta or official05:47
misfit_toyi.e. it will always stay current05:47
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misfit_toyzYe_, and?05:47
zYe_now neither is working according to the intellimouse page i was linked 205:48
seamus7misfit_toy: true ... but you're saying the rc versions will update (or become) the official release version without the need for a reinstall..05:48
zYe_-_-05:48
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misfit_toyseamus7, yes05:48
zYe_arghhh05:48
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seamus7mistfit_toy: thank you for confirming an obvious question :)05:48
misfit_toyzYe_, did you read the post I sent?05:48
zYe_err05:48
misfit_toyseamus7, ubuntu, gotta love it05:49
Gat0rveanseamus7, pssst, I had the same question =P, you're not alone!05:49
seamus7;)05:49
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zYe_misfit_toy, i am not sure, i just recently restarted xserver to test smoe changed to xorg i made05:49
zYe_i dont think some05:49
misfit_toyguys, thats a good a valid question.05:49
Dr_willisseamus7,  thats how its worked in the past.05:49
misfit_toyzYe_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17139605:49
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misfit_toy^*and05:50
zYe_misfit_toy, yes, that what i was currently testing, now neither button is doing anything at all05:50
seamus7Dr_willis: great thx05:51
zYe_misfit_toy, the two side buttons were emulating the 2, and 3 buttons at first, noe they are not working....05:51
misfit_toyzYe_, so it is definitely in the xorg and there if probably a more current fix,that was just my first guess, googling.05:51
zYe_figured05:51
zYe_ive been googling......05:51
zYe_BAH!05:51
misfit_toywell now you know that you will have to tweak for your powerful mouse.05:52
misfit_toy:)05:52
zYe_-_-05:52
Dr_willisi rember in quake3 i just had to bind the greades.. and clicked the mouse button. :)05:52
Dr_williswe all need 100 button mice! :) complete keyboard on a mouse!05:53
misfit_toyonce at band camp I ....05:53
Dr_willisactually i think i saw a mouse like that once..05:53
zYe_i knew a guy that played a entire game with his mouse05:53
zYe_..05:53
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misfit_toydon't *make* me click something, let me keyboard it05:54
Dr_willisTheres that one gamepad out i saw that is a complete keyboard. and its not just a gamepad+keyboard. heh ..05:54
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zYe_misfit_toy, how does this sound for a 7 button emulation: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38816105:55
zYe_i think that might fit my case...05:55
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misfit_toyzYe_, that looks good05:56
misfit_toyzYe_, and remember this part:05:56
misfit_toyQuick note: If doing this on Feisty, don't accidentally let ubuntu "reformat" xorg.conf automatically. Mine did and it took me a while to figure out what was wrong.05:56
PollywogI am doing an Edgy to Fiesty upgrade and it asks RAID questions, but I have no RAID05:56
zYe_yea well i dont know how to not let ubuntu reformat my x sometimes05:56
misfit_toylol05:57
zYe_sometimes it just does what it wants05:57
Pollywogand I am seeing mdadm errors05:57
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misfit_toyzYe_, I think you'd know if it happened....anyway, that looks good!05:57
misfit_toyonly 4 weeks old, give it a shot05:58
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zYe_great06:02
zYe_just great06:02
zYe_it reformated my xorg.conf06:02
zYe_AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH06:02
zYe_well i guess i better not restart x06:03
zYe_i wonder if there is a backup laying around anywhere..06:03
PollywogI am afraid to reboot after the upgrade06:03
Pollywogalways backup xorg.conf before upgrades06:04
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crdlbzYe_, what video card?06:05
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crdlband dpkg-reconfigure at least makes a backup06:06
zYe_i know06:06
zYe_:)06:06
zYe_hi crdlb06:06
zYe_its you again06:06
crdlbit's always me06:06
zYe_you always ask my videocard dont you remember? its a geforce fx 520006:06
zYe_:P06:06
crdlbnot at all :)06:06
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zYe_-_-06:07
zYe_brb06:07
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mstrzelehi, will pidgin (gaim >2.0.0.7) be avaible in feisty?06:15
crdlbmstrzele, no feisty will have gaim06:16
tonyyarussomstrzele: No.  See the /topic about the RC being essentially final content.  Look for pidgin in Feisty+106:16
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ShaddoxHello everyone.06:16
Hobbsee!pidgin | mstrzele06:16
ubotumstrzele: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept - At the time of feisty's final freeze, Pidgin has not been released, so Pidgin will not be going into feisty.  Expect Pidgin in feisty+1!  See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info06:16
mstrzelethx for answer06:17
ShaddoxHow do I execute a file named et-linux-2.60.x86.run to install a program?06:17
crdlbShaddox, chmod +x it06:19
ShaddoxErm, hey crd. XD I almost asked you in private before coming here. XD06:19
crdlbthen just ./ it06:19
crdlbit may need to be sudone06:19
Shaddoxokay okay one se06:19
Shaddoxsec*06:19
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Shaddoxsweet. :D06:20
Shaddoxthanks man06:20
Shaddoxi've got everything confugured now, too, i'm mostly working on my server06:20
Shaddoxmy only problem is my touchy wireless ^^06:20
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thompaintel macbook is working very well06:21
crdlbShaddox, try ndiswrapper06:21
ShaddoxUh, what's ndiswrapper06:21
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crdlbthe same thing you tried on freebsd06:21
Shaddoxis it like NDIS in freebsd?06:21
Shaddoxahh06:21
Shaddoxwhen i did that with bcmwl5.sys [windows sys/inf]  in NDIS on freebsd the kernel failed to load06:22
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Shaddoxand i had to remove the module06:22
thompa touchpad in ways works much better than in osx especially in gimp06:22
crdlbwell that is freebsd, and this is ubuntu :)06:22
Shaddoxyeah, touchpad in gimp is fun ^^06:22
Shaddoxwellll...crap...06:22
Shaddoxnow i need to go get my app cd. XD06:22
thompawireless is saying its encrypted but its not06:23
Shaddoxcrd pal you know anything about BIND by any chance?06:23
crdlbShaddox, absolutely nothing :)06:24
thompanow it is connected to linksys, before it said I had wireless lock06:24
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Shaddoxgah.06:24
Shaddoxwell im still trying to get my DNS working06:24
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Shaddoxso far i've configured my zone/named stuff, but i cant seem to get any info in the WHOIS database, so my registrar wont let me use the nameservers. ^^06:24
thompadesktop effects needs a help section06:25
thompaon macbook it does not work, but beryl seems fine.06:25
crdlbthompa, it has an intel card?06:25
thompacore 2duo i think06:25
crdlbthe video card06:26
thompalatest macbook06:26
crdlbintel should work fine with either beryl or compiz out of the box06:26
thompabut im not used to mac, i got everything working here, maybe battery life no so good06:26
thompacompiz no cube06:26
crdlbthompa, but wobbly works?06:27
thompabefore the last kernel update there was cube function, now its gone06:27
thompayes06:27
crdlbinstall gnome-compiz-manager and use that to configure it06:27
thompabefore was ctrl alt arrow06:27
GluEi had the same problem on my amd / geforce4, wobbly but no cube anymore06:27
thompaalso filmstrip view06:27
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DanaGI found a surefire way to torture PulseAudio:06:28
thompaso i have to use beryl or keymap something06:28
DanaGHave it register itself as the BEEP,06:28
DanaGand then feed it a bunch of them in rapid succession.06:28
Shaddoxcrdlb: I'll need your help with NDISwrapper, send me a private. ^^06:28
DanaGBonus points if you have Beryl set to bounce on beep.06:28
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thompacrdlb: ubuntu is running way better than mac right now. i punished the osx partition to stripped 2.4G06:29
thompathe default is like 15 G06:29
thompapeace of krp06:30
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thompathe language files for macbook alone are like 5G i think06:30
thompai think it steals space so you got to buy extra i pod stuff06:31
Shaddoxi want a macbook D=06:31
Shaddoxi want to try mac os x ^^06:31
thompayou can have mine06:31
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Shaddoxhaha sure06:31
Shaddoxanythings better then my piece of crap damaged HP lappy XD06:31
thompahp sucks dude06:31
Shaddoxyeah06:31
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Shaddoxi didn't know that back in last march. ^^06:32
thompai got one hp no bios lol06:32
Shaddoxmy hp is damaged06:32
thompai think thats illegal last i checked06:32
Shaddoxi dont know computer laws06:32
Shaddoxor i just dont care, lol06:33
thompabut vista boots fine, the sata and nvidia controller dont work06:33
Shaddoxim trying to save parts to build me a good machine, ^^06:33
Shaddoxsave money to buy parts to build, i mean, lol06:33
Shaddoxi want one i can have three hard disks on, one for linux/unix, one for mac, and one for windows06:33
thompaShaddox: most vendors it seems are trying to lock you in, thats normal06:33
Shaddoxso no matter what games i wanna play, i can play it no hassle or anything06:34
Shaddoxwith windows i lag a lot, linux i have trouble with my windows-only stuff, and i havent seen mac since old 6.9 XD06:34
thompaShaddox: its so obvious with mac book though, i ran out of space in osx and had 20g to start06:34
Shaddoxyeah06:35
Shaddoxi have a good hard disk in mine06:35
thompaalso i did not ask it to copy music files06:35
Shaddoxbut the processor is succeptible to heat06:35
Shaddoxand likes to drop to 239MHz at random now06:35
thompai have my main is x2 processor, built in wireless06:35
Shaddoxyeah06:35
thompaits working good06:36
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Shaddoxi want to put wireless net in my box as i build it06:36
Shaddoxthe hard part is being extremely poor XD06:36
Shaddoxwhat little money i do make i have to pay all my other crap with06:36
thompaShaddox: i need to figure out how to use it as a wireless lan, I think my router is broke, it had voip on it06:36
Shaddoxah06:36
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crdlbthompa, did you get what I said about fixing compiz?06:37
Shaddoxwell i have a wireless router myself06:37
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thompacrdlb: no sorry mate06:37
crdlb<crdlb> thompa, gconftool-2 -g /apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/hsize06:37
crdlb<crdlb> run that06:37
crdlb<crdlb> if it doesn't return 4, that's your problem06:37
Shaddoxcrdlb: I got the windows bcm drivers now, how do i do ndiswrapper?06:37
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thompacool my touchpad works with right click , 3 or more fingers06:38
thompai got 106:38
crdlbopen gconf-editor and set it to 406:39
thompaim not in compiz just a sec06:39
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crdlbnumber_of_desktops should be 106:39
crdlbthompa, you don't need to be in compiz to fix this06:39
thompanow i am , was in beryl06:39
thompawell i got 106:40
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thompajust a sec06:41
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xipietotecokay....I just installed wordpress from the repositories....how do I run it?06:45
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Shaddoxxipietotec: Did you use the "Add/Remove..." option?06:46
xipietotecShaddox: no, I used aptitude06:46
ShaddoxOh, then I dunno. Sorry, ^^06:47
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DanaGwhile (true) ; do echo -e \\a ; done06:51
DanaGyay, watch the window go bouncy-crazy.06:51
DanaG(in console, or you'll be unable to ctrl-c it.)06:51
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ShaddoxHi everyone. How do I see what programs are using sound to end them to make my OSS driver work for a Quake3 engine game?06:57
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thompait has 4 in the file but it does not wfile:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.htmlork06:58
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micahcowanShaddox, a quick-n-dirty method might be to "killall esd", and then after you're done with the game, do an "esd &", possibly followed immediately with "disown %".07:01
Shaddoxmicahcowan: Erm...I have no idea what any of that means.07:02
RawSewagewhats the latest word on Feisty Final release date07:03
micahcowanShaddox, you'd need to type those into a terminal ("Applications" -> "Accessories" -> "Terminal").07:03
ShaddoxI did the killall esd, but the sound is still screwed.07:03
crdlbRawSewage, it should be on time07:03
RawSewagegood07:03
ShaddoxUgh, why does Quake3 engine have to use old OSS, >.<07:03
micahcowanRawSewage, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn (not necessarily authoritative), still 19th07:03
RawSewageno official RC this time then?07:03
micahcowanShaddox, screwed how?07:03
micahcowanAnd, just to be sure: Quake3, not Quake4 engine?07:04
crdlbShaddox, are you still using aoss?07:04
Shaddoxmicahcowan: Yes, definately Quake 3. I've got Q3-Q4 engines both on here, but Q4 won't run on my laptop anyways. ^^07:04
Shaddoxcrdlb: I am, but the sound is still doing the same effects as the first time we tried it.07:04
RawSewageI do a complete reformat each release07:05
Shaddoxmicahcowan: Sound doesn't play at all when in the intro movie, and when I enter the main menu, the sound comes out in very low staticy bursts.07:05
micahcowanShaddox, fiddling with "export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=<something>" before launching the game from the terminal, is sometimes helpful. I had similar troubles in Quake4. <something> can be things such as dsp, alsa...07:06
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micahcowanhttp://www.libsdl.org/cgi/docwiki.cgi/SDL_5fenvvars lists others.07:08
Shaddoxmicahcowan: Erm...what's all that mean?07:08
micahcowanAll the web page? Never mind: just skip down to the SDL_AUDIODRIVER bit for other values you could plug into "export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=<something>".07:09
micahcowanThen you need to try to run the game from the same terminal you just typed the "export" command into.07:09
crdlbthat works for the q3 engine?07:09
micahcowancrdlb, I'm fairly sure q3 uses SDL for sound, though I could be wrong. No guarantees, at any rate :)07:10
Shaddoxmicahcowan: What driver would I have to use for Quake 3 engine?07:10
micahcowanShaddox, you'll need to experiment. I'd try: dsp, dma, alsa, ... the rest don't look useful.07:11
ShaddoxWell, I was playing in my sound config thingy, and ALSA worked, so did ESD. but im not sure which one would be best ^^07:11
micahcowanYou didn't run that "esd &" command, did you? (don't)07:12
ShaddoxNo07:12
ShaddoxI ran killall esd07:13
Shaddoxthen also et07:13
Shaddoxand it still didn't work, sound-wise07:13
Shaddoxframerate is normal cause i added the ati restricted driver07:13
micahcowanESD must default to alsa when esd isn't running, then (I think that's correct: I know it falls back to oss at some point)).07:13
micahcowanYou'll probably want to bring esd back up ("esd & disown %") at some point when you're done, just FYI.07:13
crdlbit seems quake3 doesn't because there's tons of hacks on the interwebs about getting sound working in q3 with alsa07:14
micahcowanOtherwise, only one program can use sound at a time :/07:14
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crdlbI just use alsa + dmix07:14
crdlbI never liked esd07:14
micahcowanesd's a great /idea/, crappy implementation. alsa+dmix is probably a good deal more advanced.07:15
Shaddoxwell either way, i need the sound to work xD07:15
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micahcowanShaddox, I thought you said you got it working?07:15
Shaddoxit isn't, i said i isn't. >.>07:15
Shaddoxit*07:15
Shaddoxhow can i force this game to use ESD?07:15
Shaddoxmaybe ESD will work07:16
Shaddoxsince ALSA isn't07:16
micahcowancrdlb indicates that Quake3 possibly doesn't use SDL, in which case, I've sent you up the wrong tree...07:16
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Shaddoxah crap...07:16
Shaddoxwell, it's only 10. ^^07:16
Shaddoxi got time.07:16
crdlbit's 1 here :|07:16
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micahcowanHI shirish07:17
shirishmicahcowan: hi :)07:17
shirishnice to see you here07:17
crdlbhere's a version of the q3 engine that supports alsa: http://ioquake3.org/07:17
Shaddoxuh07:17
crdlbI don't know if you could get that working with et07:17
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Shaddoxbut the game im running is Wolfenstein Enemy Territory07:17
shirishmicahcowan: I have made a spec. perhaps you can look at it07:17
Shaddoxcause ET's anticheat is very touchy too07:18
micahcowanSure: I'm going to be afk for a bit, as my two-month old is apparently still hungry :/07:18
ShaddoxIf windows is misbehaving even the slightest bit, or it isn't exact perfect windows, you'll get kicked. X_x07:18
crdlbah that's not going to work then07:19
shirishmicahcowan: ok cool, anyway here's the URL https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apportexpanded see if this is feasible as & when07:19
shirishok guys, does anybody know what additions are there in the DVD live than in the CD ? Any ideas anybody?07:20
shirishI have tried to find out a list of the DVD but haven't been really successful about it :(07:20
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micahcowanshirish, looks good so far. Questions about the privacy bit: are you intending that apport somehow detect which parts of an app might contain private info, or are you just intending that it contain a warning to the user that it might send confidential info?07:25
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seamus7hi .. i downloaded yesterday feisty desktop i386.iso  and today   feisty alternate i386.iso  ... i checked md5sum ... okay ... i burned them to cd ... but neither works ... the desktop iso freezes before it even loads the startup menu .... and the alternate does nothing ... i used k3b and tried using the right-click 'write to disc' option .... but no luck???07:28
seamus7i'm not sure where my problem lies...07:29
GluEhave u tried reinstalling?07:30
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xipietotecI installed wordpress from the repositories.....and now its no where to be found?07:34
seamus7Which directory holds the standard 32bit feisty release candidate desktop cd image? at the link above?07:34
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phrizekdoes anyone know if avahi support will be compiled into gaim anytime soon?07:39
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vega-xipietotec: /usr/share/doc/<package>/README.Debian usually gives a clue07:41
vega-or README*07:41
xipietotecI found it....I have no idea how to set this up though, heh07:42
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vega-xipietotec: don't remember, i installed wordpress on debian maybe a year ago, iirc it was quite simple07:44
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xipietotecwhat I mean...is I've never used mysql or anything....and I need to make a sql database....and I have no idea how to do that07:45
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odatis the nvidia 9631 driver working yet?07:49
shirishmicahcowan: sorry had to go to bathroom (emergency call) hence didn't read that, yes my intention is both , it should give user a warning that it might send confidential info. As an e.g. firefox where one does have username & passwords, similarly databases, spreadsheets etc. would all come.07:50
odatanyone here?07:50
odatis the nvidia 9631 driver working yet?07:51
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crdlbodat, it's supposed to be07:51
crdlbwhat error are you getting?07:51
micahcowanshirish, I don't believe the automatic-detection bit will be particularly feasible... if done, it could never be a /guarantee/ that it wasn't sending confidential info, and it would have to have an app-by-app database detailing what memory segments were offlimit... very likely impractical.07:52
shirishmicahcowan: also over period of time apport should become intelligent enough to dissect part of what should be used & not use unless explciitly attached by user.07:52
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micahcowanshirish, what's meant by the FTP stuff?07:52
crdlbodat, and what is the name of your card?07:52
shirishmicahcowan: ok hold on a moment07:52
odatcrdlb, a geforce2 GTS/Pro07:52
crdlbodat, oh07:53
shirishmicahcowan: have u ever uploaded a file to rapidshare.com or rapidshare.de07:53
crdlbyou need legacy then07:53
shirishmicahcowan: or ever used the tool rapidupload just as an e.g.07:53
crdlb9631 supports gf3 and up07:53
micahcowanshirish, never.07:53
odatcrdlb, i've had a couple geforce2 cards working with a later version of nvidia drivers07:53
crdlbodat, not with anything newer than 718407:54
odatcrdlb, look at the support for 963107:54
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shirishmicahcowan: ok what they do, is just opposite of a download manager+checksum . They have resuming facilities, they give upload rate, they give security in form of some sort of hash-check07:54
shirishmicahcowan: not ftp clients per se, which upload data to websites but close enough.07:55
vega-anyone know if this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/79204 is going to be included in final release??07:55
ubotuMalone bug 79204 in initramfs-tools "boot on md raid drives fails (dup-of: 103177)" [Critical,Confirmed] 07:55
ubotuMalone bug 103177 in initramfs-tools "boot-time race condition initializing md" [Critical,Fix released] 07:55
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shirishmicahcowan: also who is sending the data is known & secured. That last part I need to write I guess.07:55
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crdlbodat, http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9631/README/appendix-a.html07:57
micahcowan"security" for the hash-check is probably not the terminology you want... "reliability"?07:57
micahcowanI love the resumability stuff: that's definitely a nice idea.07:57
crdlbodat, you will not find your card on the supported list07:58
micahcowanshirish, I don't think you have a use case written for the FTP stuff, and I'm still kinda vague as to what is meant by that. You should probably ditch the "FTP" terminology anyway, and describe more precisely what you really mean07:58
shirishmicahcowan: hash-checking to me means it is not sending some crap. like bittorrent does, when downloading data from other users. you can trust the data while at the same time, the meta-data is checking with each packet & throws those which do not meet the criteria prompting the packet to be sent again.07:59
micahcowanRight: but security tends to have connotations of "authorization" or "privacy", so I think it's a little more misleading than "reliability"; and it's too easily confused with your proposed privacy features.08:01
micahcowanshirish, I just realized we're discussing this on #ubuntu+1, which is probably not the right place. Perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic would be more appropriate, or else a private chan?08:01
shirishsure, lead ahead08:02
shirishmicahcowan: either set up a private one or #off-topic both are good enough for me08:02
micahcowanWhy not go to #shirish? :)08:03
shirishsure08:03
shirishmicahcowan: already there08:03
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bill_khey guys, wondering if I could get help with bluetooth keyboard setup, on kubuntu feisty no mouse support either even when devices are "connected"08:05
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bill_kfully updated, keyboard/ mouse working in windows.  I have 2 different usb bluetooth adapters to use, looked for guides-(read that most keyboards work by default) no luck :(08:06
bill_kI had to borrow the keyboard from the computer lab downstairs (in a college dorm) so I'd like to get it fixed tonight08:06
bill_kping?08:08
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NemesisDsup08:12
NemesisDI was wondering if migration-assistant in feisty will allow one to pick and choose what files to migrate? when it comes out I plan on installing it on a windows xp laptop (dell inspiron b130)08:12
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vega-NemesisD: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MigrationAssistance08:20
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bill_kping again?08:23
crdlbpong08:23
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bill_kok, thanks08:23
Ademanhow might one theme Qt applications from GNOME?08:25
bill_kdon't know if emerald-themer does it08:26
bill_k!emerald08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:26
Ademandoubt it, that's for window borders in beryl isn't it?08:27
wolfeonheh, yeah08:27
wolfeondon't think there is a qt-gtk-engine08:27
concept10Ademan, you kan you the kde control center08:27
bill_kyea08:27
concept10*kan use08:27
wolfeonwhy are you using applications which use qt anyway? ;)08:28
Ademanyeah i wish there was a qt-gtk-engine08:28
Ademanlol, because esvn is written in qt08:28
wolfeonuse full GTK apps, deal with non themed apps, or switch to KDE :)08:28
Ademanthat's painfully restricting lol08:29
wolfeonAdeman: well shame on them for not making a correct decision ;)08:29
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concept10Ademan, like I said, you can theme the apps with the kde control center, even if you use gnome08:29
storkoh damn i thought release date was the 17th :(08:29
concept10They won't have the exact look of gnome apps, but you can change them as you wish08:30
Ademanwell to be honest, Gtk+ is painful as hell to code with, but gtkmm (which is the REAL competitor to Qt imho) is just about equal08:30
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Ademanis it in a package by the same name?08:30
wolfeonAdeman: I wouldn't know... I just use python/ruby and gtk/or wx :/08:30
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Ademanactually i'm writing a little app in pygtk right now08:31
Ademanit's nice08:31
Ademanbut i'm still a newbie in python08:32
Administratorhi08:32
concept10Ademan, i dont know what its called08:32
Ademanlike, i have a mysterious error regarding an else08:32
Ademanconcept10: ah, ok, thanks though i'm sure a quick search will do it08:32
Ademanhi Administrator08:33
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fulat2kany idea how long it usually takes for mirrors to pull the latest releases?08:39
Georockhi  ademan08:44
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nogethey there, can anybody tell me a fast way to use "rm" to remove a lot of *.wav files?08:47
nogeti dont want to delete the dir, just the files in it08:47
DarkMageZnoget, enter the directory which you want to remove all the .wav files from and go "rm -R ./*.wav"08:48
DarkMageZnoget, that should remove all *.wav files inside that folder and inside every folder in that folder08:48
nogetok thanks :)08:48
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FriedGeekHello. I08:50
FriedGeekI'm hoping for a bit of help.08:50
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shirishguys does anybody know where one can find what extra packages are there in the DVD format of Ubuntu?08:52
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cypherdelicDoes anybody know, how to get Evolution connected to POP/SMTP via local Privoxy/Tor-server?09:13
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shirishcypherdelic: no idea, but good idea :)09:15
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AnRkeyhi all09:19
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AnRkeyhi all09:20
RAOFhi09:21
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RAOFYo, it's the jml :)09:22
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jm-illRAOF: hi09:24
RAOFjm-ill: Still sick?  That sucks.09:25
jm-illyeah09:25
AnRkeywhen did they fix the kernel?09:27
RAOFWell, I've just given a talk, so I'm actually off home now :)09:27
RAOFAnRkey: Couple of days ago?09:27
AnRkeyhmm09:28
AnRkeyi have been waiting for rc1 and they are just gonna do knightly iso's until thurs?09:29
CarinArrknightly.. cute;)09:29
AnRkeyforgive me, fast asleep and not thinking :)09:29
HobbseeAnRkey: see /topic09:30
AnRkeyurly shaft @ wurk :T09:30
AnRkeyi think i missed that announcement, must have marked it read09:31
AnRkeyshit did i really say knightly!09:32
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Frogzoostoopid question - does feisty have a release date?09:38
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dystopianrayFrogzoo: read the topic09:38
Frogzoodystopianray: k, thx09:38
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Georockamd6409:45
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|NewUser|well i m try to mount my FAT32 partition.. it is mounted fine.. but when i open that partition.. it show something.. like on each file or each folder is locked.. ? there is icon with each file and each dir.. it shows its lock.. ?09:55
|NewUser|i try to mount the like this " sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda109:55
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[miles] good morning guys09:57
zaggynlmorning09:57
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AnRkeymorning miles09:58
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xophermorning, anyone here having problems with fuseiso?10:01
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vega-acroread not in feisty anymore?10:03
dystopianrayvega-: that's right10:04
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xopherdystopianray, why? because it's not free?10:09
xopherdoesn't bother me though (never was available for amd64 anyway :P10:09
dystopianrayxopher: it cannot be redistributed, if adobe requests it, it will be removed from previous repos too10:10
xopheroh yeah, that's true..10:10
xopherStupid too.10:10
xopherDoes anyone here know how to change the icon of a folder via cmdline?10:11
xophergnome10:11
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zaggynlI sure hope they fix the sound problems in feisty :(10:14
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vpolhi all. anybody tryed to build kvm-module in today's build of ubuntu 7.04? it it unable to build it through module-assistant10:15
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[miles] is there anyone around I could speak with from the ubuntu team regarding joining to activly contribute to the server distro? I would like to start maintaining certain packages etc. Also would like to have our company get involved with the project10:21
bill_kI just followed the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI .  Restarted x and it wont come back10:21
bill_kxIO fatal IO error 104 connection reset by peer on xserver.....10:22
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Bonez56hi all10:24
bill_khi10:25
void^bill_k: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:25
bill_kcat or nano?10:26
bill_knot good at vim10:26
vpol[miles] : actually i'd like to do it too. but i don't know what Mark plans about ubuntu-server.10:26
dystopianraybill_k: it doesn't matter you won't be editing it10:26
[miles] vpol: I'm and so impressed with the server distro10:26
[miles] vpol: so much so, I'd like to contribute10:27
void^bill_k: more or less10:27
[miles] vpol: you not in #ubuntu-server10:27
[miles] ?10:27
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bill_kvoid^: says something about missing endsection, looking at xorg.conf now (at the line it complained about) and all looks well10:28
void^bill_k: pastebin your xorg.conf then10:29
bill_ki'm in virtual term10:29
bill_kx won't start....10:29
bill_kway beyond me doing it in screen or some text browser10:29
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VirhYl3Hi, I need to create a Launcher that opens a wine app.10:30
bill_kshould I mv the xorg.conf (that aticonfig made) to a .backup and restore the original?10:30
void^yes.10:30
VirhYl3like the linux version of a .BAT file or something.10:30
dystopianrayVirhYl3: just write a shell script10:31
richbHey all10:31
bill_kok, back to desktop10:31
VirhYl3OK.  How?  I just need it to do cd nvu  then wine nvu.exe10:31
bill_ki'll pull that .backup file up and pastebin it with the log file10:31
VirhYl3since the native nvu doesn't work yet.10:31
VirhYl3but the windows one works perfect in wine.10:32
dystopianrayVirhYl3: make a text file with the first line as '#!/bin/sh' put the commands you want to run in it and then chmod +x the file and run it10:32
VirhYl3can I chmod +x the file by a right click?10:33
VirhYl3I really want to get out of the terminal altogether, and not just for me, but for my clients as well.10:33
dystopianrayVirhYl3: probably, if right clicking allows you to modify permissions10:33
bill_kvoid^: is the newest part of the log at the top or bottom?10:34
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bill_kvoid^: and kubuntu feisty10:35
VirhYl3Is that the checkbox under permissions that says, "Allow executing file as prorgram"?10:35
bill_kfollowed !binarydrivers guide10:35
bill_khttp://pastebin.ca/444245 is the xorg.conf that aticonfig made (didnt work)10:36
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bill_kvoid^: ping10:37
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VirhYl3hmmm... that worked, but I'd like it to kill the warning.10:38
VirhYl3plus I don't know where Nvu keeps it's icon in the windows folder version.10:38
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dystopianrayVirhYl3: windows icons are contained within the executable10:40
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VirhYl3Huh... Have to go get the .svg online somewhere, eh?10:41
dystopianrayVirhYl3: or find a program to extract resources from windows executables10:41
bill_kor printscrn, there are separate .ico files sometimes10:43
VirhYl3I'd rather find the high res .svg somewhere and just use that.  It will look better on The Avant Window Navigator.10:45
bill_kare icon files really svg's?10:46
dystopianraybill_k: most are pngs that are rendered from a source svg10:47
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bill_kyeah, that would make more sense10:47
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VirhYl3well, .svg looks better in Avant, in Feisty.  Where possible.10:49
VirhYl3Which makes total sense, of course.  Feisty is ahead of the curve on this, maybe Ubuntu has had this for a bit, dunno.10:50
dystopianrayis anyone using xserver-xorg-video-intel yet?10:50
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acusterstupid update10:52
acusterI wonder who's fault it is that /boot/grub/menu.lst gets upgraded several times during a dist-upgrade10:53
k`ubuntudystopianray, was that you im talking about the ubuntu-reboot windows not working case?10:53
dystopianrayk`ubuntu: yes10:54
acusterso it blows away the original file and puts the newest file in menu.lst and the new-but-not-newest file in menu.lst~10:54
k`ubuntudystopianray, news: on some restart, ubuntu itself freezing aswell10:54
k`ubuntudystopianray, only on ubuntu->windows ubuntu->ubuntu cases10:54
dystopianrayk`ubuntu: ok, so ubuntu must be doing something funny to the hardware which persists through a reboot10:55
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k`ubuntudystopianray, probably, is there any way I can filter it out? Was trying the boot log in XP but too few info I think, and messy log10:55
zorglu_http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta <- is causing konqueror to report an issue with javascript, where is the proper place to report that ?10:55
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dystopianrayzorglu_: you want to report a konq bug or ubuntu website bug?10:56
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dystopianrayk`ubuntu: get an error message you mean?10:57
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k`ubuntudystopianray, yes, I think I could filter out whats wrong and why, if could filter, on what point exactly windows and ubuntu stops loading (and freezing actually)10:57
zorglu_dystopianray: is there a channel for ubuntu website ?10:57
dystopianrayzorglu_: I don't know10:57
zorglu_dystopianray: ok thanks10:57
k`ubuntudystopianray, so then I could make an exacty bugreport on launchpad10:58
dystopianrayk`ubuntu: ah well i'm not sure exactly how you could go about debugging this10:58
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dystopianrayk`ubuntu: have you treid searching for similar reports from people with similar hardware?10:58
dystopianrayk`ubuntu: do other livecds or distros cause the same problems?10:58
VirhYl3How do I get rid of the warning dialog so my shell script just runs?10:59
dystopianrayVirhYl3: what does the warning say?10:59
VirhYl3Found a bitchin' icon in Bluesphere, btw.10:59
VirhYl3Do you want to run "Nvu", or display its contents?10:59
k`ubuntudystopianray, yes, as its a notebook, searched for the notebook name but nothing, and no havent tried other stuff yet. ubuntu forever :) the thing started since I installed 6.1010:59
VirhYl3then four options: Run in Terminal, Display, Cancel, Run11:00
VirhYl3and Cancel is highlighted, which is dumb.11:00
dystopianrayk`ubuntu: don't search by notebook name but by the hardware it has11:00
dystopianrayVirhYl3: gnome might allow you to create a gnome specific shortcut which does not generate any warnings11:00
k`ubuntudystopianray, yes but how can you make sure what kind of motherboard and stuff it has. I mean, other barebone notebook have same HW with other name11:01
dystopianrayk`ubuntu: lspci11:01
VirhYl3OK, still, I should file a launchpad bug that it defaults to cancel.  Why would anybody want to double click and default to cancel?11:01
VirhYl3dystopianray: How do I do that?11:01
dystopianrayVirhYl3: I don't know, i don't use gnome11:01
VirhYl3Well I just want a simple shortcut that "just works" so my clients can open Nvu without any glitches.11:02
VirhYl3And I'm going with the default Ubuntu, with Avant as the launcher.11:02
VirhYl3No easy way to make a pretty icon in Avant that automagically runs a wine program?11:03
dystopianrayVirhYl3: you can probably just right click and select 'create new -> shortcut'11:03
VirhYl3Hmm. Like create an extra Launcher just for my script?11:04
VirhYl3That might work... brb11:04
dystopianrayVirhYl3: you could probably make a application shortcut that executes everything you want11:04
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void^VirhYl3: preferences, behaviour, "executable text files".11:05
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VirhYl3void^: THANK YOU !!!!!11:16
VirhYl3void^: Wait, where is behaviour?11:19
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AnRkeyexit11:21
void^VirhYl3: wait, you weren't talking about nautilus?11:21
AnRkeyhahaha, sorry i need sleep11:21
VirhYl3Um, I suppose?  I'm using Ubuntu Feisty, Beryl.11:22
void^VirhYl3: so, edit->preferences..?11:23
VirhYl3oh, under edit... i was going to the system menu..... DOH!11:23
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VirhYl3Nice.  Works perfect.  THANKS!11:23
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dystopianray|NewUser|: you must use the umask mount option when manually mounting fat partitions11:36
|NewUser|dystopianray: ty and sorry for my damn connection. its going d/c again and again something problem with my lan server11:37
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|NewUser|damn.. again @11:41
|NewUser|dystopianray: " sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 " is not fine ?11:41
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dystopianray|NewUser|: only root will have access to the partition11:41
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tomkirbyhello all11:59
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tomkirbyi'm having problems with pdflatex fonts in feisty - can anyone help me?12:00
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seamus7Hi.. i've installed feisty but had to postpone setting up networking ... at the moment X won't start so i'm limited to the command line ... how can i configure networking from there?12:03
tumiseamus7: with the "ip" tool12:04
tumiseamus7: or the older "ifconfig12:04
seamus7ahh .. so i can't just do it by editing /etc/network/interfaces ?12:04
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tumiseamus7: you can do that too, just networking when finished editing12:04
tumirestart networking ev.12:05
heno*** Latest announcement for RC/Final testing https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000281.html ***12:05
seamus7well i made my interfaces file look exactly like the one on my edgy installation ... then i rebooted and still no internet ... hmmm12:05
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_4strOseamus7: sure it is the network conf who screw your X server ?12:11
_4strOi don't think so12:11
seamus7_4str0: no but i need to update packages and such and i think that will fix my x problem12:12
_4strOok12:13
_4strOand ifconfig give a correct IP adress ?12:13
seamus7_4str0: i haven't done that :(12:14
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_4strOseamus7: just type : ifconfig12:14
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seamus7_4str0: okay... i'll have to come back .. i'm using my edgy partition at the moment12:15
Woody_hello12:15
_4strOmmm12:15
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_4strOseamus7: use the liveCD :p12:15
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Woody_people, yesterday i installed nvidia-glx and the next time i booted i came into a black screen with the sounds of drums. someone gave me the commands to fix it back to "nv" instead of "nvidia". today i installed the other nvidia driver (legacy) and the same thing happened now. I forgot the commands that i used yesterday to change it back to "nv", i am on Live CD right now. Can anyone please help me get into my xorg.conf to edit it? thanks12:17
seamus7_4str0: but of course i use a static ip address in edgy and vista so .. hmmm using the livecd seems like a good idea but x failed when i tried that as well ... i'll check ifconfig and see if all is as it ought to be12:17
Woody_/server undernet12:19
Woody_oh sorry lol12:19
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_4strOlol Woody_12:20
_4strOWoody_: still there ?12:21
Woody_yes _412:21
Woody__4strO:12:21
Woody_yes sir12:21
_4strOdo :12:21
Woody_yeah, tell me12:21
_4strOcan you paste the result of : sudo fdisk -l12:22
_4strO!paste12:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:22
Woody_yeah sure12:22
Woody_/dev/hda2            2551        9729    57665317+  83  Linux12:23
Woody_hda212:23
tomkirbycan anyone help me get a decent font with pdflatex in feisty? it's gone all pixellated since I upgraded from edgy :(12:23
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_4strOWoody_: sudo mkdir ~/temp && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 ~/temp && sudo gedit ~/temp/etc/X11/xorg.conf12:24
Woody_alright12:25
Woody_it worked _4strO :D12:26
_4strOsure :)12:26
Woody_let me write this down, so i dont have to ask you anymore12:26
_4strOWoody_: u have to understand the different command ;)12:26
Woody__4strO: i am a Windows guy, i left Windows 3 days ago :) no more XP and Vista lol12:27
_4strOWoody_: try some : mkdir --help, mount --help12:27
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Woody_alright, i will _4strO12:28
_4strO;)12:29
Woody__4strO: i have a question for you, I heard people saying that Linux works on all computers, old and new. I have a Pentium 4 2.4GHZ CPU and Ubuntu is always using more than 70% of the CPU power. Windows Vista uses less lol. why is that happening to me?12:29
Woody_ubuntu (fiesty fawn) also freezes a lot and the mouse pauses for few seconds when you move it.12:30
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_4strOmmm12:31
_4strOSeveas !!!12:31
_4strOhan12:31
Woody__4strO: do you know why is that happening to me? more than 70% of the CPU power is used.12:32
_4strOWoody_: can tou paste (on the website) the result of this commande : top12:32
_4strO(ctrl-c to stop the command)12:32
Woody_what _4strO12:32
Woody_which command?12:32
_4strOtop12:32
_4strO:)12:33
|NewUser|i dont want .. that ubuntu check all my file system on startup.. coz there is something problem with fsck.. No INFO Sector found .. so i dont want that on startup it checks my all file system except my root / .. it is possible?12:33
Woody_okay12:33
Woody_how can i paste it to you? the information is constantly changing12:33
_4strO!paste12:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:33
Woody_okay12:34
Woody_one moment please12:34
_4strOno pb12:35
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|NewUser|well in other words i want to say.. i dont want to mount my FAT32 or other partitions mount automatically..  on startup ?12:35
RytmisMy first instinct would be to stab the fstab, but I'm not sure if that's a good idea for a newbie :)12:36
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lolmanRight, got a problem with my wireless in Feisty...NetworkManager refuses to accept it can use WPA, but if I configure it manually it works...12:36
lolman(manually as in using the interfaces file)12:36
void^|NewUser|: try adding "FSCKTYPES=none" to /etc/default/rcS12:37
Rytmisvoid^: that sounds like it would prevent all fscking (heh)12:37
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Rytmisvoid^: is that such a good idea?12:37
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nick01hi- is 7.04 finished and they're just not leting u download it cause shipit is shipping the new version12:38
lolmanThe release candidate is in testing12:38
void^Rytmis: checkroot doesn't care about it, so root will always get checked.12:38
mc44nick01: no one is stopiing you downloading it12:39
|NewUser|i have another issue with "sudo apt-get update " http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16103/   can someone help ?12:39
_4strOWoody_: select the all text and just paste it with the middle click of your mouse ;)12:39
nick01mc44: it's available for download anywhere ?12:39
mc44nick01: the release candidates are. However they may not be the same as the final release12:39
Rytmisit's generally a bad idea to use a RC on your primary workstation. RCs are known to periodically explode, eat your pets and stuff like that.12:40
RytmisKeeps life interesting, though.12:40
nick01thought so- so even though they're accepting orders they won't ship until its ready and the cd pressed too ?12:40
mc44nick01: well they wont ship cds until the cds are pressed, no12:40
mc44unsurprisingly12:41
nick01lol12:41
RytmisI demand they ship unpressed CDs. This repressing of innocent discs must stop!12:41
nick01LOL12:41
mc44Rytmis: just go buy a blank cd-r and write ubuntu on it :)12:42
Rytmismc44: nah, I just dist-upgrade all the time :D12:42
|NewUser|is there something missing in my source.list file or ? any other thing ?12:42
mc44|NewUser|: it looks like the packages were just corrupted12:43
mc44|NewUser|: have you tried again?12:43
|NewUser|mc44: then how can i get all new updates?12:44
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|NewUser|mc44: yea i tried 3 to 4 times.. but still same thing happens.12:45
mc44|NewUser|: you can try changing the mirror you are using from pk to something else12:45
|NewUser|mc44:  sure its a Gud idea :/12:45
|NewUser|!easysource12:46
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:46
mc44|NewUser|: sure, the packages may just be broken on the pk mirror12:46
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_4strO|NewUser|: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/12:46
_4strOoups12:46
|NewUser|_4strO:  thanks. mc44 u too thanks.12:47
|NewUser|let me try to reboot my system.. as void^ says to edit.. so i edit that file.. now check to reboot it happens again or not. :)12:48
|NewUser|BRB!12:48
mc44|NewUser|: you dont need to reboot12:48
|NewUser|mc44: not for this..12:48
mc44ah ok :)12:48
|NewUser|issue for automatic mount on startup.. so i dont want that.12:48
|NewUser|mc44: well on startup it freeze my screen for sometime.12:49
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|NewUser|void^: thanks man.. now its working awsome.. what i want.. system just start in 40 to 45 seconds :)01:03
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|NewUser|!medibuntu01:04
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/01:04
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Woody__4strO: sorry i got disconnected bro01:06
Woody__4strO: im going to re-paste you the output of "top"01:06
_4strOno pb01:06
Woody_!paste01:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:07
_4strO^^01:07
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Woody_my connection is bad :(01:12
Ilokaasui updated to -15 kernel but it doesent appear in grub list and uname -r says its still -12 kernel, how to change this ?01:12
_4strOlokks like01:12
_4strOIlokaasu: try another sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade01:13
_4strOIlokaasu: try another sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade01:13
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Ilokaasugot this sudo update-grub command and it found -15, i go test now01:14
_4strOWoody_: still there ?01:16
Woody__4strO: i am having problems with my connection :S01:17
Woody_man, im living in the middle east, what do you expect? lol01:17
_4strOloool01:17
Woody_haha01:18
Woody_i have a poor 256k connection here lol01:18
Woody_it took me about 5hrs to make the update for ubuntu (350MB)01:18
_4strOargh01:18
|NewUser|looks like he have same connection as mine :/01:19
_4strO^^01:19
|NewUser|Woody_: r0fl u know ? i have 8kbs connection :/01:19
Woody_lol01:20
Woody_also living in the middle east |NewUser|? :P01:20
|NewUser|yea i m from pk.01:20
Woody_ah pakistan :P01:20
_4strOpk ?01:20
Woody_im from Lebanon01:20
Woody_Im Canadian but living here in Lebanon01:20
_4strOwhaou01:21
|NewUser|:)01:21
|NewUser|slow connection is a big problem for us :)01:21
Woody_yeah, im an internet addict01:21
Woody_im also new to Linux01:22
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|NewUser|well im behind a router.. :) my admin g0t 20mb download link :) but restricted for all user 8kbs for all.01:22
Woody__4strO: firefox is not opening any website, when i get my connection back ill tell you01:22
_4strOok01:22
|NewUser|Woody_:  i m new too :)01:23
Woody_im having some problems with Linux, it makes me freak out01:23
Woody_but im trying to fix them01:23
Woody_with the help of Mr. _4strO01:23
_4strO;)01:24
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Woody_lol01:24
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|NewUser|Woody_: Ubuntu have gr8 efforts to help New User or as well old users :) thats why i like to use Ubuntu.. and one more thing is really looks like simple .. thats why i love it :)01:24
Woody__4strO: are you an employee in Ubuntu? or just for fun helping people?01:24
Woody_|NewUser|: yeah thats some of the reasons im liking Ubuntu :)01:25
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derek[] Hi01:25
|NewUser|Woody_: they just help all user at free of cost :) its a big Main issue :) they gave Us much n much time with much info :)01:25
derek[] We have an HP Laserjet printer in a LAN. All the computers in the network, except for my laptop, are running windows-xp. I am not able to print from linux. What could be the issue?01:25
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Woody_yes for sure |NewUser|01:26
derek[] I added a "New printer" using the wizard somehow , and it says "Ready" . May be I did something wrong there, I'm not sure. Can anyone help me please?01:26
_4strOWoody_: just helping people01:26
_4strOfor free01:26
|NewUser|_4strO:  i wish i will be a good helper of Ubuntu As soon :)01:27
_4strO:)01:28
Woody_yeah, me too... i guess i need some time01:28
|NewUser|umm01:29
|NewUser|i just want to learn over all works with terminal :) i love to work with terminal..01:29
Woody__4strO: my connection is back, the pastebin is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16108/01:30
_4strOok01:31
Woody_|NewUser|: how much does ubuntu use from your CPU power?01:33
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Woody__4strO: still there?01:35
RytmisYikes, I'm pretty sure ACPI support isn't supposed to eat your CPU01:35
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Woody_Rytmis: then what is eating it up?01:36
Woody_lol01:36
derek[] help!01:37
_4strOWoody_: ok01:37
_4strOjust googlising :p01:38
Rytmismaybe boot with the noacpi option?01:38
Woody_yes _4strO okay01:38
Woody__4strO: do you like Astronomy?01:38
_4strOnop01:38
Woody_ah okay01:38
_4strOi like 4strOnef s ^^01:38
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Woody_:D01:39
RytmisWoody_: You were a recent windows convert, no? I'm trying to decide whether it's safe for me to instruct you to futz around with the boot loader :d01:40
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_4strOWoody_: what is the result of the command : uname -r ?01:42
RAOFRytmis: You can tell him to futz around with the bootloader while it's running (pressing "e" in the grub menu), that's pretty safe :)01:42
Woody_okay01:43
Woody_2.6.20-15-generic01:43
_4strOok01:43
RytmisWoody_: you could try booting. You know when there's a short countdown sequence before linux boots? you can press ESC there and get to the boot menu.01:44
RytmisWoody_: If you press e there, you can edit the boot options for the kernel without breaking anything.01:44
Woody_yeah01:44
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Woody_Rytmis: im new to Linux01:45
_4strOWoody_: or just edit the menu in a text editor :p01:45
RytmisWoody_: so you boot, hit esc, press 'e', then navigate to a row that starts with 'kernel', hit 'e' again and type ' noacpi' to the end of that line.01:45
Woody_how?01:45
Woody_what should i do?01:45
_4strOdo : sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst01:45
Rytmis_4strO: that's a bit riskier01:45
_4strOand then01:45
Woody_ok01:46
Rytmis_4strO: doing it at boot-time won't alter the settings permanently, which is safer for the first time.01:46
_4strORytmis: we will only modify the first kernel01:46
_4strOnot the recovery one ;)01:46
Rytmis_4strO: Yeah, but how well is a first-time user going to deal with recovery mode? :D01:47
_4strO^^01:47
void^disabling acpi permanently is just a workaround anyway :/01:47
Woody__4strO: why should i edit it? what is eating my CPU?01:47
_4strOkacpi proccess01:47
_4strOWoody_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=242420701:48
RytmisThat's the kernel acpi daemon01:48
Woody_what does that do?01:48
Woody_the kcpi process is used for what?01:48
Woody_Rytmis: lol explain01:48
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RytmisWoody_: ACPI is a hardware interface, I guess primarily dealing with shutdown, hibernate and stuff like that.01:49
RytmisWoody_: I have a vague concept of what it deals with, not too specific :)01:50
Woody_so it wont harm anything if i remove it?01:50
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RytmisThat would be the case.01:51
void^if you have a laptop with temperature controlled fans it might be unwise to disable it.01:51
Rytmistrue01:51
RytmisI was kinda assuming a desktop machine, sorry01:51
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Woody_void^ i have a laptop with t controlled fans01:51
RytmisMwah01:52
Woody_so if i remove that process, my laptop will burn lol01:52
void^depending on your mainboard it might not start the fans properly without acpi01:52
derek[] can someone help me with setting up the printer correctly please?01:52
Woody_void^, yeah i dont want to take that risk01:53
Woody_void^ so what can i do to minimize my CPU usage?01:53
Woody_its always more than 60~70%01:53
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spheardhi, Im trying to reinstate grum after it was removed by vista. I cant ge grub to find my linux partition01:55
void^Woody_: pastebin output of 'dmesg'01:55
Woody_ok01:55
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derjoerghello list01:56
derjoergare there any plans to implement kernel-patch-vserver for feisty?01:56
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_4strOderjoerg: dont know01:57
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derjoerg_4strO: ok, thanks. Not the answer I hoped for, but at least an answer01:58
coz_asked this alrady here but let me try again   this gnome library   libgtkglextmm-x11-1.0.so.0 was aviable last week on all debian besed distros this week it isno where to be found  and i have several apps that depend on that library  any suggestions? I am also checking in #debian and #gnome01:58
_4strOspheard: try with sudo grub-install01:59
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Woody_on moment void^02:00
Woody_the pc is freezing constantly02:01
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Woody_void^, here it is http://paste.uni.cc/1464202:03
lolmanAnybody else noticed problems using ndiswrapper with DHCP?02:04
Ilokaasui updatet my grub and 2.6.20-15 appeared there, but when i try to boot, it says kernel panic. I think the problem is because one line is missing from grub menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16110/02:04
spheardlolman: wireless on edgy is a bis wierd02:04
spheardbit buggy02:04
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lolmanspheard, I mean on Feisty02:05
spheardfeisty is supposed to sort all that out tho :-)02:05
spheard:-<02:05
lolmanIt associates with the access point but fails to get an IP02:05
spheardwhat does ifonfig and iw config give you?02:06
Ilokaasuif someone could help, im having problems updating to -15 kernel02:06
lolmanOh I have an IP now, but I had to set it to static02:06
lolmanWhen I use DHCP it definitely associates02:06
lolmanBut nothing about an UIP ever appears02:06
lolmanIP*02:06
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RytmisIlokaasu: Yeah, looks like you don't have an initrd02:07
lolmanIP*02:07
lolmanOops02:07
spheardlolman: have you tried on many networks?02:07
IlokaasuRytmis: tuukko #ubuntu-fi02:07
lolmanI only have 1 network to try on, but when I use it in Windows it works...so it's not the adapter02:08
spheardtake it it works okay whn you use ethernet02:09
lolmanYep02:09
lolmanBut ethernet isn't feasible, I'm 2 floors away from the router02:10
lolmanAnother thing I've noticed is that it only connects at 11Mb when it's a 54Mb adapter02:10
spheardthats prob cos of the two floors your going thru02:11
spheard:-)02:11
lolmanNope, it isn't :)02:11
spheardh02:11
spheardoh02:11
lolmanRegularly get 54Mb on Winblows02:11
spheardwell, to my knowledge the dhcp is done after the mac layer02:12
Woody_lol lolman02:12
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lolmanIt works with Static IP, and I don't really need DHCP, but the 11Mb thing is bugging me now02:13
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spheardthatll be the driver02:14
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spheardcheck the version of ndiswrapper your using02:14
Woody_void^ still there?02:15
lolmanIt's the one in the Feisty repo, hang on02:15
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spheardlolman: upgrade it02:15
spheardget the latest one02:15
lolmanAny binaries available or will I need to compile?02:16
spheardhang on02:16
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spheardwhat s your wireless?02:16
lolmanNetGear WG111v202:16
lolmanThere's a native module for it, but NetworkManager doesn't pick up the WPA on that02:17
spheardus?02:17
spheardusb?02:17
lolmanYeah02:17
sphearddunno man,02:18
spheardhttp://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=WG111v2+ndiswrapper+feisty&meta=02:18
spheardyou'll have to play with these02:18
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lolmanOkies02:18
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void^Woody_: hrm, sorry, nothing obvious. probably try booting with 'lapic'. file a bugreport at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20 , attach the top and dmesg logs02:19
Woody_what do you mean by booting with "lapic" void^?02:19
void^as suggested earlier, add lapic to the kernel command line. it's just a random idea, though.02:20
gerry_hello02:20
gerry_how about beryl support now02:20
Woody_void^ i dont know what you are talking about02:20
Woody_void^ please explain step by step02:20
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shirishHidan: hi :)02:21
gerry_i have bought a ati card: ati x1950 GT , i want using it under beryl02:21
Woody_void^ im going to report the bug02:21
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gerry_but i heard that nvidia driver is better than ati, is that true?02:22
shirishguys has anybody been able to update to 1.9.94 x-org-intel driver?02:22
capiirasure gerry02:22
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shirishgerry : there is supposed to  be an nvidia driver but there is also something called noveau where you could help02:23
capiiraati drivers was always bad doesnt matter which platform02:23
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DVS01hi02:23
Woody_void^ you think that with the release of Fiesty final, this bug will be removed?02:23
gerry_what's noveau?02:23
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DVS01downloading beta now =D02:23
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shirishgerry_: would get you the details in few minutes02:23
gerry_yeah02:24
shirishgerry_: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/02:24
gerry_ok02:24
gerry_but i have bought a ati card ...02:25
matysekall: have working bc43xx but i cannot see anything, but i had to see 2 somethings02:25
shirishgerry_: ok cool02:25
gerry_noveau seems only for nvidia02:26
Rytmisgerry_: for hardware acceereation, fglrx is your best bet02:26
gerry_but ,beryl not work02:27
lolmangerry_, installed XGL?02:27
gerry_lolman, yes02:27
gerry_XGL+beryl02:28
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lolmanHrm, I dunno much about ATI, since I run nvidia02:29
derek[] hi patizivs02:29
patizivshello02:29
patizivsIs there any news about RC?02:29
gerry_ it seems there are lots bugs in feisty beryl+xgl02:30
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nicolahis RC out ?02:30
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gerry_or ubuntu just droped beryl support02:30
shirishpatizivs: there are RC candidates at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com02:30
CarinArrgerry_: i ended up using the beryl-project repositories and i've not had any problems02:31
nicolahcan't find any RC at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/02:31
DVS01check topic's url02:31
patizivsonly bug which I found is beryl+totem it is annoying02:31
CarinArri don't use totem02:31
gerry_CarinArr:  using a NV card?02:31
CarinArrso don't know about that02:31
CarinArrgerry_: aye02:31
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gerry_i'm ati02:32
patizivsxine is better, I couldn find in gconf for totem where to change video output02:32
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gerry_x1950 GT02:32
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nicolahthanks DVS0102:33
nicolahhere's the link for the RC http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20070415/02:33
gerry_without beryl-project repositories, beryl not work for ati card ,02:34
tumidid clearlooks recently get updated in the repo?02:35
tumisuddenly selected menu items are so extremely rounded02:35
gerry_how to setup dmraid in feisty?02:36
shirishtumi: yup supposedly they did as well as the human theme also has been updated supposedly so people can have rounded corners02:36
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gerry_anyone have tred dmraid here?02:37
tumishirish: the Human theme looks ok to me, much less rounded than clearlooks02:38
gerry_it seems kvm is slow02:38
gerry_my winxp kvm virtual machine is too slow02:39
shirishtumi: true, I haven't seen clearlooks so cannot say how much the difference is, I'm on CRT , IIRC clearlooks is for LCD monitors right?02:39
tumishirish: no I don't think it's LCD specific..02:39
shirishtumi: in that case I might try it sometimes02:40
Woody_guys, its easy to upgrade from Fiesty beta to Fiesty Final?02:40
gerry_how to tweak it?02:40
tumiWoody_: yes02:41
mc44Woody_: yes02:41
gerry_Woody : sure02:41
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gerry_Woody_, it's not easy but very easy02:41
gerry_just a few mouse clicks02:42
derek[] someone please please help me setup a LAN printer correctly02:43
derek[] !!02:43
gerry_any one has tried KVM here?02:43
Woody_lol gerry_02:43
Woody_define:kvm02:44
gerry_kernel based virtual machine02:44
Woody_wow cool02:44
Woody_gerry_: im new to linux02:44
gerry_i have tried winxp, archlinux, solaris under feisty02:45
gerry_but solaris failed02:45
richbHmm, does postfix run in a chroot?02:45
mc44gerry_: how is it different to vmware?02:45
gerry_open source vs not open source02:46
mc44ah :)02:46
derek[] why doesn't anybody answer02:46
derek[] :/02:46
mc44!patience | derek[] 02:46
ubotuderek[] : The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:46
gerry_kvm is a lightweigh  virtual machine02:46
gerry_not need much configure02:47
mc44gerry_: ive only used vmware, but the cursor is really choppy even though everything else is pretty fast02:47
mc44gerry_: I guess due to not being able to use the graphics cards proper drivers02:47
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gerry_mc44: have you installed vmware drivers for xorg?02:48
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gerry_i dislike vmware anyways :)02:48
mc44gerry_: I just apt-getted the player, so I guess so?02:49
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gerry_mc44: why not try kvm?02:49
BluesKajfirst of all derek[]  , what printer, how is the LAN setup ?02:49
derek[] hi BluesKaj02:49
mc44gerry_: next time I need a vm I will :) But I only have xp set up for funsies02:50
gerry_it's very easy to setup02:50
BluesKajhi derek[] 02:50
derek[] HP Laserjet M1005 . In the LAN, all the computers are running Win-XP (including the computer to which the printer is connected). Only my laptop is running Ubuntu.02:50
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gerry_vmware will install much mess on your box02:51
tatters I new to ubuntu / Linux ,,been using feisty beta, now when it becomes officially released do I have to download and install new image or will this beta be updated through apt-get and no need to reinstall?02:51
mc44gerry_: yes, it seems to have taken over my network interfaces02:51
derek[] BluesKaj, that's the set up.02:51
mc44tatters: no, just use update manager for any new packages02:51
gerry_:)02:51
mc44tatters: it all happens automagically :) One of the joys of linux02:52
gerry_just use XP for funny, kvm is enough02:52
tattersmc44: thnx and phew :)02:52
Woody_guys, ubuntu is eating up my CPU... its always more than 70%. you think that the Fiesty final will fix that problem?02:52
mc44tatters: you will probably be up to date with the final feisty anyway if you have been using the update manager02:53
slackernWoody_, can you see which appliction is doing it?02:53
BluesKajok, derek[]  first of all findout in printer properties what the XP pc has named the the printer ...it'll be in lower case something like "hplaserje' or simiar name02:53
mc44Woody_: feisty final is unlikely to change from now02:53
BluesKajsimilar02:53
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Woody_slackern: i dont know which processes are doing that02:53
gerry_Woody_:  how about your box hardware?02:53
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slackernWoody_, maybe you can open a terminal and run 'top' and see there02:53
Woody_there is one responsible for the temperature regulating fans02:53
Rytmisslackern: it's the kernel ACPI daemon02:54
mstrzelehi all, i have a question: in feisty there is a command-not-found package which is proposing installation not founded package with apt-get. is there any way to change default proposed apt-get to aptitude?02:54
Woody_gerry_: i have a Pentium 4 2.4GHZ CPU02:54
tattersoh right  I still got a cpl probs with log viewer not opening and not being able to permently disable my wireless connection from the gui,,,I was hoping they will be fixed if bugs soon02:54
gerry_not bad02:54
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slackernRytmis ahh alright, this is a bit of uncharted territory for me but i belive you can disable acpi when booting up02:54
derek[] BluesKaj, here is the info: Share name: HPLaserJ02:54
Rytmisslackern: Yeah but he's got a laptop so disabling ACPI isn't really an option xP02:55
Woody_slackern: i did the top command02:55
Woody_i got a lyst02:55
Woody_list02:55
slackernWoody_, the thing on top there should be the appliction using the most of your cpu, but if it's the acpi im not sure if you can see it there02:55
BluesKajok, derek[]  remember that name ...have you tries to install anetwork printer yet in system settings using 'cups' ?02:56
kalon33hello guys, I've problems building v4l-dvb-kernel modules these days on Feisty, do you know a repository which work ?02:56
BluesKajerr tried02:56
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gerry_cpu 10%  on my box02:56
Woody_slackern: you mean this?02:56
Woody_ 31 root      20  -5     0    0    0 R 79.0  0.0  79:57.71 kacpid02:56
mc44mstrzele: there doesnt appear to be02:56
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slackernahh yes, that should be it then02:56
richbAhh, fixed it, no resolv.conf in the chroot.02:56
Woody_why does it eat up my CPU?02:57
derek[] BluesKaj, I tried to install a network printer using socket.. port 9100 and the host name. It didn't work. I did not try the cups protocol..02:57
Woody_slackern: why is that happening?02:57
tatters/join#mythtv-users02:57
slackernWoody_, not sure how to fix something like that im afraid, could be some bug against your system02:57
Woody_mmm, who can help me then slackern?02:57
slackernWoody_, i will go and try to see if there is a bug reported about something like that02:58
BluesKajderek[] , I'd suggest you try cups and having 'samba' installed won't hurt either02:58
Woody_thanks slackern02:58
derek[] BluesKaj, I think I have samba installed02:58
slackernWoody_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+bugs i belive all the bugs are listed there and thats where you report a bug also02:58
gerry_Woody_: look at your system sevices which are runing on your box02:59
Woody_gerry_: there is nothing important running02:59
Woody_i have the GAIM and Firefox running02:59
Woody_im just using these 2 programs02:59
BluesKajok derek[] , systemsettings/printers/add/add_printer/class02:59
derek[] BluesKaj, you mean I should try this: IPP Printer or printer on CUPS server (IPP) ?03:00
derek[] BluesKaj, I didn't understand what you meant by /class in the end03:00
BluesKajprinter on cups03:00
gerry_where did you get your cpu message?03:00
derek[] BluesKaj, it asks for URI: , I don't know what to put03:00
Woody_system monitor gerry_03:01
Woody_its 90% now :S03:01
gerry_oh, my god, that's not ture03:01
gerry_type  top in your terminal03:01
BluesKajare you click on samba shred printer03:01
Woody_i did that gerry03:01
Woody_gerry_:03:01
gerry_look at  a line with cpu03:01
Woody_okay03:02
gerry_how much  x%03:02
derek[] BluesKaj, no. where is that? I went to System > Administration > Printing > Add new printer03:02
Woody_ PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND03:02
Woody_   31 root      20  -5     0    0    0 R 63.6  0.0  84:12.94 kacpid03:02
Woody_whats that kacpid?03:02
BluesKajok, is there anoption to use samba ?03:03
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gerry_top - 21:01:15 up  1:11,  2 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.27, 0.2603:03
gerry_Tasks: 127 total,   2 running, 124 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1 zombie03:03
gerry_Cpu(s):  1.0%us,  0.2%sy,  0.0%ni, 98.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.2%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st03:03
martalliWhat is the name of the package with mp3 and other restricted codecs?03:04
gerry_98.7% id03:04
Woody_whats that?03:04
gerry_only 1.3% working03:04
Woody_mmm03:05
gerry_my cpu E630003:05
BluesKajsorry derek[] , I keep assuming ppl are using kde ...didn't realize gnome is so different :(03:05
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mc44martalli: for gstreamer?03:05
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slackerngerry_, but his problem is with kacpid using waaaay to much cpu for some reason my computer is old but mine isn't even using 0,1%  of my cpu03:05
gerry_loot your top output again, Woody_03:06
derek[] BluesKaj, ok no problem. In Add a new printer, the samba option is Windows Printer (SMB)03:06
Woody_top - 16:02:30 up  2:05,  2 users,  load average: 2.00, 2.44, 2.4803:06
Woody_Tasks: 115 total,   3 running, 111 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1 zombie03:06
Woody_Cpu(s): 10.0%us, 43.7%sy,  0.0%ni,  4.3%id,  0.0%wa, 42.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st03:06
Woody_Mem:    514964k total,   464164k used,    50800k free,    19236k buffers03:06
Woody_Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,   264832k cached03:06
Rytmis!paste03:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:06
martallimc44: My ubuntu 7.04 comp will load and play various "restricted" codecs, but it doesn't seem that my laptop (kubuntu 7.04) is doing the same thing03:06
Woody_Rytmis: lol it takes time, thats faster... sorry for now03:06
dystopianraymartalli: for kubuntu install libxine-extracodecs03:06
mc44yeah what he said :)03:07
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martallidystopianray: Thanks03:08
Woody_gerry_: what do you think?03:08
slackernWoody_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2424207 maybe this is something similar03:08
gerry_Woody_:  weird03:08
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Woody_hello dystopianray how are you today?03:08
Woody_gerry_: so you think FFfinal can fix that?03:08
dystopianrayWoody_: i'm fine03:09
slackernWoody_, you know which cpu you have?03:09
gerry_Woody_: i think so03:09
Woody_I have a Mobile Intel Pentium 4 - M CPU 2.40 GHZ03:10
Woody_XP doesnt use more than 8% on that03:10
BluesKajok derek[] , it'll ask for a login..if your not worried about security use "guest', then the XP computer name (server), usually it's the pc's brand or model name...it'll will tell you in the XP printers properties what the printerserver name is.03:10
slackernWoody_, ahh alright, some things that seems to be a problem with kacpid is that if the computer is running to warm several machines seems to make kacpid use more and more cpu, maybe this is not your problem but something people have noticed03:11
Woody_slackern: so what can i do?03:11
gerry_kacpid is a module for power management03:12
Woody_slackern: the computer is not running smoothly and the mouse pauses for some seconds when moving it03:12
Woody_it is slowing my system a lottt03:12
slackerngerry_, yes and thermal/fan management is also a part of that03:12
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slackernatleast as far as i know, not used a laptop for ages myself03:12
BluesKajderek[] , Workgroup is usually MSHOME or HOME03:12
slackernWoody_, btw does it happen only after hibernation or directly from a fresh restart?03:13
dystopianraydoes anyone have xserver-xorg-video-intel yet?03:13
Woody_slackern: it happens directly after a fresh restart03:13
Woody_slackern: i dont use hibernation03:13
slackernWoody_, ahh alright03:13
gerry_Woody_:  like sleeping mode in windows03:13
Woody_gerry_: yes03:14
Woody_gerry_: slackern: a friend of mine have a dual core CPU, it works smoothly03:14
Woody_you think i have a hardware problem?03:14
derek[] BluesKaj, I'm not following, sorry ...03:14
gerry_sure, it's acpi broken03:14
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Woody_but WinXP works so smooothly03:14
Woody_how can i fix that gerry_?03:15
dystopianrayWoody_: it's likely a kernel bug03:15
Woody_if i disable acpi, what will happen?03:15
gerry_not your hardware :)03:15
Woody_dystopianray: will FFfinal fix that?03:15
dystopianrayWoody_: no power management03:15
dystopianrayWoody_: I don't know what that is03:15
derek[] wooohooooo03:15
Woody_fiesty fawn final03:15
dystopianrayWoody_: what are you using now?03:15
derek[] BluesKaj, I got it set up. Test page printed. :)03:15
slackernWoody_, have you noticed if the fans run slower or something in ubuntu than in windows?03:16
Woody_im using the same computer that has the problem, ubuntu 7.0403:16
Woody_i noticed that the fans in ubuntu are rotating in higher speeds than in windows03:16
dystopianrayWoody_: have you fully updated your 7.04 install?03:16
Woody_yes dystopianray, i updated it all03:16
BluesKajcool derek[] , itworked ok then03:16
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dystopianrayWoody_: then it's very unlikely your problem will be fixed in the final release of feisty03:17
Woody_oh :(03:17
llutzdoes nvidia-glx-new (for nvidia 7300gs card)  work with linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic (.15-27) and why does it always want to install image-386 (not usable for smp-system)?03:17
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Woody_then i have to leave ubuntu and get back to WinXP03:17
dystopianrayWoody_: but possibly in a subsequent update if you post a bug report03:17
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gerry_Woody_: disable your acpid service and try again03:18
Woody_gerry_: maybe the laptop caught fire lol03:19
slackernWoody_, you could read on this page and try what he did http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399619&highlight=kacpid03:19
Woody_there are many bugs reported for the same problem im facing03:19
Woody_thanks slackern03:19
slackernWoody_, but i would recommend making a new boot entry for that so you can boot up the same way as you are doing now but just with another selection in the menu03:19
Woody_which selection do i use?03:19
Woody_the safe mode?03:19
Woody_its the second in the list03:19
mc44{uX}l`VampyrCeil: you are assuming it will be out on time :)03:20
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{uX}l`VampyrCeilhoping* ;)03:20
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{uX}l`VampyrCeili got faith in Ubuntu \o/03:20
eagles0513875i have an nvidia card and for some reason direct rendering says no how do i enable it for my nvidia card should i download the binary from nvidia03:21
shirishAnybody tried the Ubuntu Live or Alternate DVD?03:21
IlokaasuNeed help. ubuntu 7.04 takes ages to boot, especially when loading kde03:21
slackernWoody_, im not entirely familiar with grub but i would think you can copy from where it says "title" and way down to _before_ it says "savedefault" and use that and just add it as a new entry with those options03:21
Woody_wowowowowowwow slackern, be easy with me man lol03:22
dystopianrayeagles0513875: are you using the 'nv' driver?03:22
{uX}l`VampyrCeilIlokaasu, know that I can't help you, but just out of curiousity, is it making it to the login screen at least?03:22
gerry_Ilokassu: look at your ip address setup for eth0 etc03:23
slackerntitle root kernel initrd - those are the lines you need i belive03:23
slackernlol03:23
eagles0513875im using default one that was installed03:23
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dystopianrayeagles0513875: what video card do you have?03:23
Woody_slackern: i will be right back in 1 minute03:23
slackernWoody_, hehe the file i am talking about i should mention too perhaps :)03:23
slackernWoody_, it's /boot/grub/menu.lst03:23
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eagles0513875an evga 6600 gt03:24
eagles0513875and an nforce 4 motherboard03:24
slackernWoody_, take note that don't blame me if you can't boot afterwards :)03:24
eagles0513875an asus a8n sli premium with an amd atholon socket03:24
eagles0513875socket 93903:24
dystopianrayeagles0513875: i'm only interested in the video card03:24
eagles0513875ok03:24
Ilokaasui can boot normally to desktop but it takes time. After login screen its damn slow03:24
eagles0513875sry03:24
slackernWoody_, so better keep your important stuff tucked away somewhere nice :)03:24
dystopianrayeagles0513875: install nvidia-glx03:24
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Ilokaasuand now when im @ desktop, starting programs takes time03:25
dystopianrayeagles0513875: then modify xorg.conf so it's using the 'nvidia' driver instead of 'nv'03:25
arthurHi guys, I wonder if it's just me or it's affecting anybody else.03:25
{uX}l`VampyrCeileh not the same problem some people are having on the forum, then03:25
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arthurCan you watch video in firefox with the totem plugin?03:25
Ilokaasui will test one thing03:26
eagles0513875ok wouldnt installing the binary from nvidia fix that03:26
arthurThe video show just fine in totem but do not start in firefox03:26
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dystopianrayeagles0513875: follow my instructions03:26
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arthurIt might be FF related but was just wondering03:26
mc44PriceChild: \o/ Thank you kindly :)03:26
slackernWoody_, i will try to make a sample file for you just let me know when you get back03:27
mc44PriceChild: though it is the "Final Candidate' now :)03:27
Woody_slackern: okay im back03:27
{uX}l`VampyrCeilFirefox doesn't offer you a plugin?03:27
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mc44PriceChild: cheers03:27
{uX}l`VampyrCeilthat mean there's a pretty good chance of it bein' released on the 19th? :)03:28
slackernWoody_, can you run 'cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep UUID' and paste it on pastebin?03:28
slackern!pastebin03:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:28
{uX}l`VampyrCeilpastebin accused me of spamming earlier -_-03:28
gerry_lol03:29
tattersDoes anyone what package is required to get the ----->GtkGLExt Python bindings.03:29
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Woody_yes sure03:29
Woody_slackern: yes sure03:29
{uX}l`VampyrCeil(javascript's enabled and everything :x)03:29
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Woody_{uX}l`VampyrCeil: me too :S03:29
{uX}l`VampyrCeil><03:30
_4strOWoody_: paste the entire file ;)03:30
slackernWoody_, you could just paste /boot/grub/menu.lst at pastebin otherwise03:30
slackernhehe03:30
_4strO:p03:31
Woody_slackern: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16119/03:31
gerry_best hardware recommend for ubuntu?03:31
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IlokaasuI just disabled the other network connection that i dont use, now this works normally...weird :P03:31
{uX}l`VampyrCeilhope my hardware can take Feisty + Beryl :o03:31
_4strOmine does :)03:31
slackernWoody_, ok will have a look at it and see what i can make :)03:31
mc44gerry_: things with open source drivers :p03:32
Woody_okay slackern03:32
{uX}l`VampyrCeilmy computer's not ancient, but it ain't stellar :p03:32
gerry_Ilokaasu: if you have a static address, not use dhcp03:32
gerry_dhcp is slow03:32
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slackernWoody_, You had windows installed also?03:33
slackernI will paste the file to pastebin for you then you can see the changes and made and see what i ment so you can copy/paste into your file03:34
Woody_slackern:  yes03:34
Woody_i have winxp installed on another partition slackern03:34
gerry_CPU:E6300 MBABIT03:35
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anto_Heya, what LIB do i need to install if i want to listen to mp3 files on rhythmbox ??03:35
mc44anto_: are you on feisty?03:35
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slackernWoody_, maybe best if you send the entire menu.lst file to pastebin03:35
anto_Yes03:35
zaggynlSomeone in here uses the CA0106 soundcard? I can't get microphone capture to work03:35
_4strO!codecs | anto_03:35
ubotuanto_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:35
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mc44anto_: it should automatically install them when you run an mp3 then03:35
Woody_yeah sure slackern03:35
Woody_how can i access my menu.lst lol03:36
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slackernyou got a terminal open?03:36
Woody_yeah03:36
anto_okidoki03:36
Woody_i do slackern03:36
slackerngedit /boot/grub/menu.lst03:36
_4strOWoody_: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst03:36
Woody_ok done03:37
Woody_now im pastebinning it03:37
slackernokies03:37
_4strOWoody_: dont03:37
gerry_how about:  CPU intel E6300; Abit aw9d-max MB; ati x1950 gt video; apacer ddr2 800 2G  for ubuntu?03:37
mstrzelebetter use gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst03:37
Woody__4strO:  why?03:37
_4strOjust do a : sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak03:38
_4strOthis will make a back up of the original file03:38
Woody_i did it03:38
Woody_i didnt get anything03:38
Woody_ah okay03:38
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Woody_so im going to paste bin the menu.lst to slackern03:39
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_4strOpast the entire file03:39
Woody_yes03:39
slackernWoody_, aye, the 'sudo gedit' is used to let you write to the file, right now it's just opened but you can't save changes to the file03:39
eagles0513875if anyone has an nvidia card let me know i know how to get open gl working rather easily03:39
_4strOyou just have to put a : noacpi somewhere in the file03:40
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Woody_slackern: thats it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16121/03:40
Woody__4strO: anywhere? i choose the location?03:40
slackern_4strO, aye but i wanted to make him a new entry also in case it doesnt work03:40
slackernacpi=off apm=off  was the options i was going to add03:41
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_4strOmstrzele: ths, i just dont remeber the gnome root launcher command gksu :p03:41
Woody_slackern: edit it, and send it to me back03:42
mstrzelen/p ;)03:42
Woody_slackern: what would be the worst case scenario here?03:42
gerry_broken your box :)03:43
slackernthat it doesn't start when you select the kernel with NOAPIC that i added for you too choose when you reboot03:43
Woody_no kidding :S gerry_03:43
slackernWoody_, then you can just select the old one that you are running now03:43
Woody_ah okay slackern that is good03:43
slackernjust like choosing windows03:43
Woody_yeah03:43
eagles0513875how do i shut down the x server so i can setup my video driver03:44
Woody_if i remove that acpic (whatever) thing, will i burn my CPU?03:44
Woody_or will the fans still work?03:44
llutzeagles0513875: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop03:44
slackernWoody_, you will see what happens, to be honest i don't know :)03:44
Woody_lol thats scary slackern03:45
eagles0513875ty lilutz03:45
slackernbut i guess the computer will shut down by itself if it gets to warm then03:45
gerry_anyways,  laptop no acpi is very bad idea03:45
eagles0513875it says command not found03:45
Woody_gerry_: give me some good news lol03:45
eagles0513875the only way i can install the nvidia driver from nvidia is if the xserver isnt running03:45
_4strOWoody_: can you type this command in a terminal and paste the result here : dpkg -l | grep acpi03:45
_4strOWoody_: dont passte03:46
slackernit was the only suggestion i found on the web also03:46
Woody_okay _4strO03:46
slackerni'll hold off giving you the menu.lst in case someone else has an idea before putting your machine into a minefield :)03:46
_4strOWoody_: have you some ii in front of the lines where acpi, acpid are03:46
Woody_what _4strO?03:47
Woody_yeah03:47
Woody_il send you the pastebin03:47
gerry_just disable acpid system service in your system services config, why tweak your grub menu?03:47
Woody_here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16124/03:48
slackerngerry_, ahh that might work also, i have about 0 knowledge about the thermal/powersaving stuff on laptops03:48
_4strOWoody_: ok03:48
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slackerngerry_, that will do the same thing i guess?03:49
Woody_gerry_: what have you got? lol03:49
jpsamarais 20060415 final isos ? Once aproved they are the same as final?03:49
gerry_still opening,  many people are opening that page now,i think03:50
Woody_guys, i dont care how the thing should be.... all what i care is that i want my system to stay healthy and run ubuntu with joy :D03:50
_4strOWoody_: i cant help on system settings in gnome03:51
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derek[] people, the printer on a LAN is working. It is also a scanner. How to scan from it?03:52
_4strOgerry_: can u ? (sorry i'm on Kubuntu)03:52
gerry_in kvm, i always run my winxdp VM with --no-acpi option, but my box isn't laptop, so i don't know whether it will burn  CPU on laptop  :)03:52
slackernI belive it's in system-administration-services03:52
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Woody_gerry_: you are scaring me03:53
slackerni can see apmd and acpid in there atleast03:53
Woody_the CPU that i have is Mobile Technology, i think that  acpi is essential for it03:54
_4strOgerry_: on my laptop (under KDE) the process acpid isnt running03:54
dystopianrayWoody_: acpi is essential for power management03:54
Woody_dystopianray: yeah, my CPU needs that power management a lot. since it is mobile technology03:54
Woody_it is small in size03:54
dystopianrayWoody_: your issue sounds like a kernel bug03:55
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mstrzelejpsamara: 20070415 is the Release Candidate isos03:55
slackernfun thing is that i am using a mobile processor in my stationary system too :p03:56
Woody_dystopianray: a format and reinstallation can fix that?03:56
dystopianrayWoody_: no03:56
slackernmodel name      : Unknown CPU Type :p03:56
Woody_slackern: a really? lol03:56
dystopianrayWoody_: that is not going to fix the bug03:56
Woody_yeah dystopianray03:56
slackernhehe aye it's an athlon xp-m processor i slapped in here03:56
Woody_i always have a bad luck :(03:56
dystopianrayWoody_: do you have any acip releated errors in dmesg?03:56
Woody_wowowwow, easy lol03:57
Woody_let me check03:57
dystopianrayacpi i mean03:57
jpsamaramstrzele: but I think since there won't be an official RC they are considering it for final if there are no showstoppers03:57
slackern'dmesg | grep acpi' should show?03:57
dystopianrayslackern: dmesg | grep -i acpi03:57
Woody_[    4.116000]  Time: acpi_pm clocksource has been installed.03:57
Woody_[   32.948000]  ibm_acpi: ec object not found03:57
Woody_[   33.304000]  pcc_acpi: loading...03:57
dystopianrayWoody_: don't paste it in here03:57
Woody_its just 3 lines03:58
dystopianrayWoody_: pastebin the output of $ dmesg | grep -i acpi03:58
gerry_Woody: try disable acpid system sevice and reboot in ubuntu, see how it works, if you worry your cpu, then renable it03:58
Woody_okay03:58
slackernhaha omg my acpi in dmesg was a bit more than 3 lines :p03:58
_4strOmione 603:59
dystopianrayslackern: he didn't do a case insensitive grep03:59
_4strOmine*03:59
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anto_Thanks guys for the mp3 format codecs but can i have some help with WMA codecs too?04:01
dystopianrayWoody_: looks normal04:01
dystopianrayanto_: wma3?04:01
_4strOanto_: they are in w32codecs04:02
Woody_dystopianray: mmm04:02
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spheardhi, Ive had my MBR wiped out by bloody vista, Im trying to use $sudo grub-install to reinstate it but its asking for a device sda0 and sda1 dont do it. Im using edgy04:03
Woody_slackern: your mobile cpu has the acpi disabled and running normally?04:03
CapaHAfter installing the latest version of Ubuntu, how can I see (via uname for example) what version of Ubuntu I am running? uname -a just says Linux04:03
dystopianrayspheard: just use sda04:03
_4strOCapaH: lsb_release -a04:04
dystopianrayspheard: it wants the whole device, not a partition04:04
gerry_anto:    does totem can't find codecs for you?04:04
dystopianrayspheard: also this isn't the edgy help channel04:04
anto__4str0: uhm can i have a bit more information :S?04:04
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_4strOanto_: like what ?04:04
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slackernWoody_, well my motherboard doesn't even identy my processor correctly nor has the options to utilize those things :)04:04
anto_how do i install the w32codecs?04:04
Woody_lol slackern04:04
_4strOanto_: sudo apt-get install w32codecs04:05
Woody_slackern: what do you think i should do now?04:05
slackernWhen i boot up it just shows up as Unknown cpu :)04:05
Woody_slackern: should i take the risk?04:05
anto_what04:05
anto_Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:05
anto_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:05
anto_is only available from another source04:05
anto_E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate04:05
dystopianrayWoody_: you should not04:05
anto_sorry for the spamm04:05
mc44anto_: its not in the main reops04:05
Woody_slackern: if the CPU heats up a lot, does it turn off automatically or displays me an error or something? ah dystopianray :(04:05
mc44anto_: try the medibuntu repos04:06
dystopianrayWoody_: no idea04:06
slackernWoody_, well if it was me, i would try, if the fans don't spinn up then you know and the hardware should shut down the machine also if it gets to warm04:06
gerry_Woody:   have you ever tried dos?04:06
dystopianrayWoody_: why would you want that anyway?04:06
anto_mc44 witch are?04:06
Woody_yes Woody_04:06
gerry_dos no acpi support04:06
Woody_yes gerry_04:06
slackernWoody_, but to be honest i don't know if _your_ machine will behave like that04:06
Woody_how can i disable the acpi?04:06
mc44anto_: you on i386?04:06
dystopianrayslackern: are you sure you have no acpi? you're booting with 'noacpi' ?04:07
Woody_can you edit for me slackern?04:07
dystopianrayslackern: or acpi=off or whatever it is?04:07
anto_i don't think so i'm runing x6404:07
slackerndystopianray, it's on right now, i just disabled the services but haven't rebooted04:07
dystopianrayslackern: acpid is not essential for acpi operation04:07
mc44anto_: ah, I dont think many codecs work with x6404:07
gerry_click your system menu04:07
mc44anto_: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/non-free/amd64/w64codecs_20061203-0medibuntu1_amd64.deb04:07
gerry_and system management04:07
slackerndystopianray, i just got those things from the forum where someone had similar problems as woody with kacpid taking up all the cpu04:08
_4strOthere is w64codecs too ;)04:08
_4strOoups win64codecs04:08
anto_yeah i just found tthat too04:08
slackerndystopianray, he was using a desktop system though and after he applied that the machine worked fine04:08
dystopianray_4strO: anto_ win64codecs does not do wma04:08
dystopianrayslackern: after turning off acpid?04:09
slackerndystopianray, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399619&highlight=kacpid here you can read yourself04:09
_4strOdystopianray: dont know i have the 3204:09
Woody_slackern: im going to take the risk right now04:09
Woody_just tell me how to remove the apid (disable it)04:09
Woody_acpid*04:09
mc44_4strO: but the 64 package is 200k, the 386 package is 14mb04:09
mc44_4strO: I think there are many missing04:09
dystopianrayWoody_: turning off acpid is no risk, it's just a daemon that responds to acpi events04:10
_4strOprobably04:10
dystopianrayWoody_: sudo /etc/init.d/acpid stop04:10
gerry_system-system management-sevices-X acpid04:10
Woody_how can i re-enable it?04:10
dystopianrayWoody_: replace stop with start04:10
_4strOWoody_: :p04:10
Woody_ah lol04:11
gerry_sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start04:11
dystopianrayWoody_: that isn't disabling it though, it's just turning it off, it'll come back when you next reboot04:11
_4strOyou can also restart it by replace start by restart ;p04:11
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Woody_ah04:12
Woody_but thats good04:12
Woody_i can try it though04:12
Woody_if it doesnt work, and i still have the same problem i just reboot04:12
Woody_and i get back to the old settings04:12
Woody_right?04:12
gerry_system-system management-sercie-X acpid will disable acpid in next reboot04:12
Woody_i dont want to disable it for eternity04:13
dystopianrayWoody_: you don't need to reboot, just start the daemon again04:13
Woody_i just want to try it right now04:13
slackern*poof*04:13
slackerno_O04:14
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Woody_if i open a terminal right now and i type in:     sudo /etc/init.d/acpid stop04:14
Woody_does it stop directly? or i should reboot?04:14
slackernit stops at once then04:14
gerry_immediatly04:14
Woody_so if i press it, is there a possibility that the fans will stop working?04:15
dystopianrayWoody_: no04:15
dystopianrayWoody_: acpid is only a daemon taht responds to acpi events, it is not requied for acpi operation04:15
gerry_lol04:15
Woody_then no need to do it04:15
dystopianrayWoody_: just hurry up and stop it already04:16
slackernI hereby doub this day acpid day04:16
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Woody_lol slackern04:16
Woody_i want to REMOVEEEEEE THE THING THAT IS SLOWING MY SYSTEMMMM04:16
Woody_what should i do so i do it right now04:17
Woody_i dont want my CPU04:17
Woody_and i dont care if it will burn04:17
Woody_lol i just want to do it04:17
_4strOthere is also an acpi-support process04:17
dystopianrayWoody_: add this to your kernel boot arguments 'acpi=off'04:17
slackernwell i will reboot, just disabled my stuff, brb i hope04:17
billyAnyone elses apt broken?  I'm getting, "Unable to lock list directory".04:17
Woody_dystopianray: where should i add it??04:18
gerry_billy: are you root?04:18
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Woody_menu.lst?04:18
dystopianrayWoody_: yes04:18
Woody_anywhere?04:18
billygerry_, I'm adding sudo before command.  I thought that was how I became root.04:18
dystopianrayWoody_: on the kernel arguments for whichever kernel you're booting04:18
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Woody_i opened menu.lst04:19
gerry_billy: or you open another apt process at the same time?04:19
dystopianrayWoody_: which kernel are you using? -15.27 ?04:19
billygerry_, no.04:19
Woody_how can i know?04:20
Woody_why does linux make headaches04:20
dystopianrayWoody_: uname -r04:20
Woody_2.6.20-15-generic04:20
billygerry_, but, yeah, it's reading as if I had Synaptic open or something.04:20
dystopianrayWoody_: stop complaining and just follow instructions04:20
Woody_i can not see a "27" in 2.6.20-15-generic04:21
gerry_woody:  run sudo /etc/init.d/acpid stop and see whether your problem will be solved and decide next howto04:21
gerry_billy:  try close Synaptic04:21
dystopianrayWoody_: find that line that starts like this "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic ...04:21
gerry_and try again04:21
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billygerry_, I haven't opened Synaptic.04:21
Woody_ok04:22
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slackernwow that was thrilling04:22
billygerry_, I said "It's reading *AS IF* Synaptic were open.:"04:22
gerry_hmm04:22
slackernabsolutely nothing happend except i have no kacpid now ;(04:22
dystopianrayslackern: you booted with acpi=off?04:22
gerry_try top look at your processes04:23
slackerndystopianray, aye with acpi=off and apm=off04:23
Woody_okay dystopianray, i found it04:23
dystopianrayWoody_: add this to the end 'acpi=off'04:23
dystopianrayWoody_: it'll look like 'ro quiet splash acpi=off'04:23
slackerndystopianray, alot less spam with dmesg | grep -i acpi now too04:23
Woody_there are many: "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic ..." there are about 404:24
dystopianrayWoody_: well add it to all of them04:24
_4strOdystopianray: mm04:24
_4strOjust the first will be enough04:24
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_4strOjust in case ;)04:24
Woody_i will add it to teh first one04:25
dystopianrayWoody_: ok, that should be good enough04:25
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Woody_okay04:25
Woody_i save?04:25
slackernWoody_,  it should be like this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16129/04:25
dystopianrayWoody_: yes, save and reboot04:26
slackernexact order doesn't matter04:26
billygerry_, well, a reboot did the trick.  must've been some rogue process or something.04:26
gerry_haha04:26
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CrippledCanaryCan anyone here tell me the status of vmware 5.5.x on feisty?04:27
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gerry_why use vmware?04:28
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dystopianraygerry_: for virtualisation04:29
lolmanWho wants to have to reboot to use another OS?04:29
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gerry_what will you  do with virualisation?04:29
CrippledCanarycause i have a lot of different vm:s in vmware and it's a corporate standard.04:29
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Woody_i am going to send you my menu.lst so you can check it before i reboot04:30
Woody_okay guys?04:30
dystopianrayWoody_: oh bloody hell, just acpi=off at the end and reboot, it's not ahrd04:30
dystopianrayjust put04:30
gerry_CrippledCanary: try kvm04:30
Woody_i added a new thing in there04:30
dystopianrayWoody_: why?04:30
Woody_the one that slackern gave me04:30
CrippledCanarygerry_:  I will try kvm but have to use vmware anyway.04:30
dystopianrayWoody_: what was it?04:30
lolmangerry_, what if someone only has 1 machine and want to use multiple OS's at the same time?04:31
dystopianraygerry_: CrippledCanary kvm needs hardware virualisation support04:31
gerry_yes04:31
lolmanAnd there's that too :)04:31
Woody_one moment04:31
Dr_willisI use vmware all the time to test out Other disrtos. and live cd's - darn handy for testing live cd images.04:31
CrippledCanaryHas anyone any info about vmware on feisty04:31
Woody_dystopianray: check it for me please: http://paste.uni.cc/1464804:31
Dr_willisCrippledCanary,  at the moment.. i cant get it working. :)04:32
CrippledCanaryOk..04:32
lolmanDarn good for running a Hackintosh on too04:32
Dr_willisCrippledCanary,  not tried Virtialbox yet on feisty04:32
CrippledCanaryHave to do my own testing then.04:32
dystopianrayWoody_: what else did you add?04:32
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Woody_thats it04:32
dystopianrayWoody_: well reboot04:32
Woody_okay thanks04:33
Woody_bye bye04:33
Woody_im going to reboot now04:33
Woody_bye04:33
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gerry_kvm -m 500  winxp.img04:34
jussi01hi all, Anyone know what the ctrl alt del package is called?04:34
gerry_that's it, very easy04:34
lolman500mb for winxp??04:34
gerry_yes04:34
lolmanWhat kind of slimmed down hybrid you running?04:34
lolmanBase XP install uses 1.5GB04:35
dystopianraylolman: that's memory not hdd size04:35
lolmanAha :P04:35
gerry_lolman: that's for mem, not harddisk spaces04:35
lolmangerry_, I know that now :D04:35
gerry_it's much easy than vmware, it's lightweight vm solution and built into linux kernel04:37
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gerry_i dislike vmware and vmare will install much spams in my box04:37
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Woody_i love you guys04:38
gerry_Woody_:  how about now?04:38
Woody_(Y)04:38
dystopianrayWoody_: you have no power management now04:38
Woody_working smoothly now :)04:38
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dystopianrayWoody_: you're system is going to get hot and the battery is going to drain quickly04:39
Woody_lol i know that dystopianray04:39
dystopianrayyour04:39
Woody_dystopianray: but the fans are still working04:39
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dystopianrayWoody_: the fans are not acpi controlled04:39
gerry_lol04:39
Woody_can i see the temperature of the CPU?04:39
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dystopianrayWoody_: not without acpi04:40
Woody_ah :(04:40
Woody_so im killing my cpu with my own hands04:40
dystopianrayWoody_: with acpi you just type 'acpi -t' and there is your cpu temp04:40
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Woody_ah04:41
Woody_mmm04:41
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Woody_when will the thing be fixed?04:41
lolmanNo support for device type: thermal <oops :P04:41
gerry_open your box and move your hand on your cpu, then you will know its' temp04:42
dystopianraylolman: are you on a laptop?04:42
lolmanNope04:42
lolmanDesktop :)04:42
dystopianraylolman: that's why04:42
lolmanHehe04:42
Woody_lol ill get a 3rd degree burning gerry_ :D04:42
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lolmanI just use gkrellm anyway04:42
Woody_i can fry egs on my CPU now :D04:42
Woody_eggs*04:43
dystopianrayWoody_: 3rd degree burn is not too bad, it won't hurt04:43
Woody_okay hehe dystopianray04:43
dystopianrayWoody_: it'll kill your pain receptors and you won't feel anything04:43
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Woody_i should see how the countdown timer of my CPU before it dies04:43
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Woody_dystopianray: are you a doctor sir? lol04:44
dystopianrayWoody_: no that should be common knowledge04:44
slackerndystopianray, what about apm? what does that one do?04:44
Woody_yeah i know, im just kidding04:44
dystopianrayslackern: that's an older power management standard, all modern machines use acpi04:44
slackerndystopianray, ahh04:44
slackerndystopianray, so it's just there for backwards compability then04:45
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dystopianrayslackern: it's there to support devices that do apm04:45
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gerry_apm is advance power administation04:46
lolmanAdvanced Power Management ;)04:46
gerry_oh04:46
lolmanACPI is a lot better though :)04:46
gerry_i'm not english native speaker04:46
Woody_dystopianray: if the CPU becomes so hot.... the computer freezes?04:47
dystopianrayWoody_: I don't know04:47
Woody_ACPI is bad for me lolman04:47
lolmanWoody_, depends on the CPU mainly04:47
slackernIt should throttle down to lower speeds04:47
dystopianrayslackern: not without acpi04:47
Woody_yeah04:47
Woody_but it is superbly fast now04:47
VanuatooI've tried latest nightly livecd and it works fine on my asus p5b deluxe. Congrats to ubuntu team for being the first linux able to boot on my computer. And I'm really impressed by the speed and performance of ubuntu. And it's only livecd04:47
slackerndystopianray, i thought that was built into the hardware04:47
lolmanSome CPUs freeze, some let themselves fry04:47
dystopianrayVanuatoo: are you the guy who had the ICH8 hardware?04:47
Woody_lolman:04:47
Woody_hahaha04:47
Vanuatoodystopianray: Yeah we've talked yesterday04:48
dystopianrayslackern: I don't believe so04:48
gerry_woody_:  reboot into bios look at your cpu temp04:48
lolmanIf your laptop has an Intel CPU it'll just freeze if it gets too hot :)04:48
Woody_it doesnt show gerry_04:48
Woody_lolman: yeah mine is Intel04:48
Woody_till now its okay04:48
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lolmanIt shouldn't kill itself then :)04:48
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Woody_hehe04:48
dystopianrayVanuatoo: have you installed feisty yet?04:48
Vanuatoodystopianray: I'm waiting for the final release04:49
Woody_how do i install my printer? i have a Lexmark Z3204:49
VanuatooI will do that then04:49
lolmanA lot of AMDs just keep going and fry themselves lol04:49
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dystopianrayVanuatoo: the latest nightly is a candidate for the final release04:49
dystopianrayVanuatoo: there may not be any changes04:49
slackernlolman, good thing i cloaked my cpu then, so my machine just see it as unknown cpu :)04:50
Vanuatoodystopianray: I know but anyway 3 days left04:50
lolmanslackern, hehe04:50
slackernlolman, abit refuses to make a bios which contains the cpu id for mobile processors on this motherboard04:50
lolmanslackern, yuck :(04:50
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hyljegaaah04:51
lolmanMy motherboard was like that when I got iy04:51
lolmanit*04:51
hyljedns is partially borked04:51
hyljelink to a public ns, please04:51
slackernlolman, wrote to them asking about it and they just said that the processor i have been using for 2 years now without problems doesn't work on this motherboard :p04:51
dystopianrayhylje: 4.2.2.104:51
lolmanslackern, hahah04:51
hyljei suppose i should have known that04:51
dystopianrayslackern: that is just a standard response04:51
hyljety04:51
VanuatooI will bare with windows 3 days04:51
Woody_dystopianray: how can i get the driver for my printer?04:52
dystopianrayVanuatoo: at least be sure to compare the md5sum of the iso you have now to the final to check if there are any changes04:52
dystopianrayWoody_: I don't know04:52
slackerndystopianray, aye i guess i had my hopes up a bit to much to get a normal answer from someone technicaly knowledgable there04:52
Woody_okay no problem dystopianray04:52
dystopianrayslackern: it doesn't matter what the bios thinks anyway, it doesn't affect anything but the name that is displayed on boot04:53
hyljehm, the nameserver list is not where i expected it to be04:53
slackerndystopianray, aye i know that, just annoying to see unknown cpu :)04:53
Woody_how can i get the mp3 and other codecs?04:53
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lolmanhylje, you mean it's not at /etc/resolv.conf? :P04:54
hyljeah04:54
slackernWoody_, i just opened a mp3 file in rhytmbox and it downloaded it for me04:55
Woody_ah ok04:55
Woody_ill try it now04:55
slackernWoody_, same with movies04:55
Dr_willisslackern,  heh - i was impressed that it did that also.04:55
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slackernDr_willis, i was looking around first then i saw a new window pop up i never seen before *gasp*04:55
lolmanDr_willis, seconded04:55
slackernthats exactly the way it should work04:56
slackerntried out kde a little too and amarok did the same there04:56
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Woody_what is the best P2P software for ubuntu?04:56
Dr_willisAmarok also seems to do the same :)04:56
dystopianrayWoody_: for which network?04:56
jussi01Woody_, torrent or what type?04:56
slackernWoody_, i like deluge, but i downloaded and compiled it since the one in  feisty is so outdated04:57
Dr_williswell at least Amarok is trying to do it.. it seems to have Hung . :(04:57
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slackernDr_willis, oh, hmm here it worked fine04:57
Woody_not torrent04:57
dystopianrayWoody_: which network do you want?04:57
Woody_can i have limewire on ubuntu?04:57
dystopianrayWoody_: it probably runs in wine04:58
CapaHThis is kind of a funny question... I have finished installing Feisty Fawn, my question is ---- it doesn't look too different, what is different about it? i.e. where can I go to say to myself "Ah this is improved"04:58
Woody_i dont have an answer to your question dystopianray04:58
Dr_willisslackern,  it may of been that i had other apt-stuff going on in the BG.04:58
Dr_willisLimewire is a java app. it works under linux.04:59
Dr_willis!limewire04:59
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.04:59
jussi01yep04:59
Dr_willisI perfer FrostWire04:59
slackern!frostwire04:59
jussi01frostwire is better04:59
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire04:59
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Woody_yeah04:59
Woody_ill try frostwire04:59
Dr_willisHmm. RythmBox is playing my mp3's but amarok is not.05:01
dystopianrayDr_willis: install libxine-extracodecs05:01
slackernDr_willis, i had to run amarok in kde the first time for it to download codecs05:01
Dr_willisdystopianray,  yea.. its asking to 'install mp3 support' but its hanging. :(05:01
Woody_thanks slackern, mp3s are working now05:01
dystopianrayDr_willis: install libxine-extracodecs manually05:01
Dr_willisi am running in kde :) perhaps the fact that i ran the gnome tools first confused the process05:02
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Dr_willisrunning amarok foobar.mp3 - made it ask.. AND is now installing the stuff..05:03
Dr_willisodd.05:03
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Woody_dystopianray: remember yesterday we talked about my vga driver? i replace the nvidia with nv and now im back in there. i read on some forums that Geforce 4 sound dont work with nvidia-glx. so i installed the other one called legacy, i got the same problem with that black screen. you think i should wait for fiesty's final release for it to support the nvidia-glx for my VGA card?05:04
dystopianrayWoody_: it does work with nvidia-glx05:04
dystopianrayWoody_: have you fully updated your feisty?05:04
Woody_yes sir05:05
lolmannvidia-glx works with GeForce 4's05:05
mc44Woody_: and feisty really isnt going to change before release :)05:05
lolmanIt's nvidia-glx-new that doesn't :)05:05
Woody_no lolman05:05
Woody_i tried it, it doesnt05:05
dystopianrayWoody_: it does, you have some other problem05:05
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Woody_dystopianray: what can it be?05:05
dystopianrayWoody_: I don't know05:06
Woody_mmm ok dystopianray05:06
mc44Woody_: what error do you get?05:06
Woody_i get a black screen with the sound of drums05:06
Woody_i see a black screen only05:06
Woody_when i reboot05:06
Woody_a friend of mine got the same thing05:06
Woody_same problem05:06
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Woody_i read somewhere on the net that the Geforce 4 doesnt work on Fiesty's nvidia glx since it is still a beta05:07
lolmanDid you run sudo nvidia-xconfig after installing the driver?05:07
Woody_no lolman05:07
lolmanYou need to :)05:07
Woody_i installed it and restarted the computer05:07
Woody_i got a black screen05:07
Woody_ah05:07
lolmanIt's using the wrong driver :)05:07
Woody_nvidia-xconfig can find the correct driver?05:08
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lolmanIt changes your config file to use the right one :)05:08
Woody_ahhh05:08
lolman(nvidia instead of nv)05:08
Do``hey05:08
Woody_yeah05:08
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Woody_okay, im going to do it now05:08
Woody_lolman: are you sure that geforce 4 works with nvidia-glx?05:09
Do``i'm using ubuntu feisty since beta and i saw that the rc is available. how can i upgrade to it?05:09
lolmanYes, Woody_05:09
Woody_okay thanks lolman05:09
mc44Do``: you should just get update via update manager05:09
slackernDo``, just using apt-get update upgrade and dist-upgrade should keep you updated to it05:09
slackernor as mc44 said05:09
Do``thank you05:09
mc44Do``: you are proabably already up to date if you have used update manager recently :)05:10
slackernWoody_ there?05:10
Do``last night it autoupdated and by the looks of it there is nothing new, so i guess you are right05:10
Woody_slackern: yes05:11
lolmanIn fact, Woody_, if it's a Geforce 4 MX, don't bother, just realised05:11
Woody_it is a Geforce 4 Go 32MB05:11
slackernWoody_, just wanted to say that in case the kernel is updated you might need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst to match the new version05:11
lolmanNot sure about the Go, 2 seconds05:11
Woody_slackern: are you talking about my VGA?05:12
mc44oh the Go is legacy now isnt it05:12
lolmanThink it is05:12
Woody_yes mc44, it is the lefacy05:12
Woody_legacy05:12
slackernWoody_,  just check which the latest version is and edit the line with the acpi stuff to match the new kernel then05:12
lolmanWoody_, did you install nvidia-glx-legacy?05:12
slackernWoody_, no the acpi stuff05:12
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Woody_i installed it and rebooted, i got the same exact black screen and with that awful sound (the drums)05:12
Woody_okay slackern05:13
lolmanWoody_, which package did you install, nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy? You need the legacy one05:13
slackernWoody_, just wanted to let you know so you don't just get locked up there wondering what is going on in case it happens05:13
mc44Woody_: the drums are the normal logon sound you know :)05:13
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Woody_yeah05:14
Woody_nvidia-glx-legacy lolman05:14
lolmanRight, you still need to run sudo nvidia-xconfig05:14
lolman:)05:14
Woody_thank you slackern for telling me05:14
Woody_ah okay lolman05:14
Woody_i will do that in a moment05:14
Woody_i am updating my system right now05:14
Woody_can Windows Media Player work on ubuntu? :P05:15
Woody_or iTunes05:15
lolmanWoody_, you don't need it :D05:15
Woody_i want an advanced media player05:15
Woody_the ones preinstalled in ubuntu are for kids05:16
mc44there many advanced media player05:16
lolman!banshee | Woody_05:16
ubotuWoody_: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs05:16
Woody_wow thanks lolman05:16
lolmanThere's a list :D05:16
Dr_willisHmm.. anyone else been using that Google Browser Sync? its like not working for me any more.05:16
jshadiasDr_willis, it's working fine for me05:16
Dr_willisjshadias,  odd...05:17
Dr_willisits like it cant connect to the server.05:17
slackernbbl05:17
Woody_lolman: im going to install the legacy and then do the xconfig05:17
lolmanIf you have the non-legacy installed remove it first05:18
Woody_i already removed it05:18
lolmanOkies :)05:18
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Woody_legacy wont work in Beryl/Compiz?05:21
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Woody_lolman: legacy wont work in Beryl/Compiz?05:22
lolmanYou'll need to set XGL up but it will, AFAIK05:22
hyljeisnt aiglx kinda less effort?05:22
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lolmanhylje, nvidia-glx-legacy05:23
RyanRyan52does anybody know what time its going to be released?05:23
hyljelolman: as opposed to xgl?05:23
lolmanhylje, don't think beryl works natively with the legacy driver05:23
Dr_willisRyanRyan52,  if you are that desperate to get it.. install the beta, then update when its released.05:23
lolmanSo xgl will be needed (I think)05:23
RyanRyan52ok05:23
hyljelolman: aiglx is a rendering extension to xorg-server, as opposed to xgl which replaces xorg-server outright05:24
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lolmanhylje, I know :)05:24
mc44hylje: yes, but the legacy driver doesnt support it05:24
hyljek05:24
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lolmanWow my net connection's flaky today05:25
Woody_will the GeForce 4 driver be converted to nvidia-glx after the release of fiesty final?05:25
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lolmanWoody_, the GeForce4 Ti one already is, as for the Go and the MX, no05:26
Woody_so i cant use Beryl/Compiz? :(05:26
mc44Woody_: this is nvidias fault not ubuntus05:26
netmon1did some upgrades and got a new kernel and when it rewrote my grub menu.lst it got rid of my Windows partition because I moved it previously. Can someone help me put it back in?05:26
stefg!grub05:27
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:27
lolman!xgl05:27
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:27
Woody_lolman: so Beryl/Compiz wont work on my PC?05:28
lolmanWoody_, if you set up XGL (link above) then it can05:29
mc44Woody_: it may work with xgl. you should ask in #ubuntu-effects05:29
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Woody_lolman: i just installed nvidia-glx-legacy05:31
Woody_what should i do next?05:31
lolmanWoody_, right, run sudo nvidia-xconfig05:31
lolmanThat'll set the right driver05:31
Woody_ok05:31
lolmanThen reboot :)05:32
Woody_it will set it automatically?05:32
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lolmanWoody_, yeah, the driver is set up for you :)05:32
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shirishlolman: can u help me?05:34
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netmon1So will updates really slow down once the final version is released or will they be pretty steady for a while05:34
lolmanshirish, I can try...no real expert though lol05:34
shirishlolman: well, atleast seem to be better than me :)05:35
shirishlolman: can u cruise over to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:1.9.94-1ubuntu305:35
shirishand tell me whether its a binary release or just a source release or what?05:35
lolmanLooks like source05:36
lolmanYep, it is05:36
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mc44netmon1: they will me less frequent, yes05:36
mc44*be05:37
skelterhey - is there a way to install feisty without a CD? ie just download and run something? on a laptop with dapper05:37
shirishon the contrary, the updates might be less frequent but lot of packages are waiting to push their updates when feisty is outta door05:37
shirishskelter: there is netboot thing05:37
shirishlolman: any idea when the .deb would be out?05:38
mc44skelter: you can update, however you need to go via edgy05:38
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lolmanshirish, not a clue, sorry05:38
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shirishlolman: its given as in today's updates https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty but only aptoncd got updated for me05:39
lolmanshirish, how long ago did you do that update? Might be worth trying again05:40
shirishlolman: I installed the .deb given here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting/+bug/90213 what do u think I'll have to do ?05:40
ubotuMalone bug 90213 in xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting "xf86-video-intel 1.9.91 (2.0 RC1) is out, and would be nice to have as the source for the xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting package" [Undecided,In progress] 05:40
shirishlolman: about 20 mins. back that was released like 6 hrs. ago05:40
shirishlolman: I put what I did to install the experimental .deb package on the bug-report itself. It'll help if you take a look05:41
shirishlolman: and guide me what recourse or action has to be taken05:41
lolmanshirish, I genuinely don't have a clue on this one, as I said...no expert lol05:41
xtknight_schoolshirish, i got the new smb guide05:41
shirishxtknight_school: cool and now if you're who you are then who is xtknight ?05:42
Woody_can Windows Live Messenger be compiled and used in Fiesty05:42
Woody_?05:42
lolmanWoody_, it's a Windows program, and I don't think it runs in WINE, so I would assume no05:42
xtknight_schoolshirish: he's at home :P05:42
xtknight_schoolshirish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComprehensiveSambaGuide05:43
xtknight_schoolshirish: i'm at school now but xtknight is an idle home05:43
Woody_lolman: the legacy is working now05:43
lolmanWoody_, great :)05:43
Woody_but the effects are not :(05:43
Woody_the desktop effects i mean05:43
lolmanThey won't, since XGL isn't installed05:43
shirishxtknight_school: lol, you should have grabbed him & get him kicked off ;)05:43
Woody_how can i install XGL?05:43
xtknight_schoolshirish lol dont want to now05:43
lolmanOr even just nickserved his butt :P05:44
shirishlolman: that's what I meant :P05:44
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Woody_lolman: can you re-give me the link you gave me before abou the XGL?05:44
lolman!xgl | Woody_05:44
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Woody_thank you05:44
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omhahallo05:45
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lolmanDon't know if the instructions for Edgy apply to Feisty though05:45
lolmanBeen a long time since I used XGL05:45
CapaHOk I have a peculiar problem, if I load firefox and I go to vmware.com --- the *entire* OS crashes (either on front page, or subsequent pages) --- has not happened on other sites. The only solution is a hard reboot... Ideas? -- This is on a fresh install of Feisty (iso burned from yesterday's snapshot)05:45
omhamy laptop is dysfunctional and blame ubuntu so i'm going to sue you!!05:45
shirishxtknight_school: perhaps you should give couple of lines about what do u mean by workgroup & domain05:46
xtknight_schoolshirish ahh perhaps.  a domain is more a business type of thing05:46
xtknight_schoolshirish i also plan to add stuff about sharing printers (as it supposed to be a Comprehensive guide)05:46
omhaheh, just kidding, my battery is broken and i came to rip out the power cable and my computer crashed05:46
shirishxtknight_school: that would be a BIG undertaking05:46
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shirishxtknight_school: i do have queries on the printer business, perhaps we can meet after dinner, dinner calls05:47
shirish@now calcutta05:47
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omhai was using my ssh keys in a ssh session and the key was cached, but now when i try to connect to the host the ssh client just stands there05:47
omhamy keyring works fine05:48
omhabut i can't ssh :(05:48
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omhai think my ssh key is corrupted or something05:49
xtknight_schoolshirish: what do you mean?05:49
xtknight_schoolshirish: yeah ill be home later i can talk about it05:49
shirishsure, see u soon05:49
bobbob1016I'm not sure if this question should go here, or the ubuntu channel, but no one is answering there, is there a program that will backup my current edgy to a file, incase the feisty upgrade doesn't work well?05:50
xtknight_schoolshirish in a few hours for me05:50
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CapaHI am using an ATI X800 XT graphics card, apparently Feisty is crashing from time to time as a result -- There is an application called "Envy" which promises to fix this, but is available for Edgy (not Feisty) -- is it safe to install this on Feisty or will something that is an Edgy package just not work on Feisty?05:53
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concept10CapaH, it depends on the libraries it uses.  It would proabably work, since Feisty has newer libs.  But, if I were you, I would bypass that application and find out what it really does.  I.E. Does it make a certain tweak to your xorg.conf?05:55
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CapaHhttp://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html05:56
mc44CapaH: no, I would not use that on feisty05:56
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Woody_Windows has Notepad (.txt) and ubuntu has????05:57
adamyVi05:57
Woody_adamy: you're talking to me?05:57
concept10CapaH, tell the guy to package a feisty version, or compile it yourself05:57
adamyWoody_: Yup05:57
mc44Woody_: applications -> accessories -> text editor05:57
meff<3 vi05:57
mc44Woody_: its called gedit05:57
lolmanWoody_, for someone new to Linux, gedit or nano05:58
adamyWoody_: I love gedit05:58
concept10Im trying to figure out why my system has these wacom-tools installed05:58
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adamyDid anyone know if the O2Micro Card reader supported in Feisty ?05:59
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adamyI knew that Ti and Rocoh are supported05:59
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xtknight_schoolo2micro?06:05
xtknight_schooli think so06:05
adamyMmmm06:05
adamyWhen I insert my SD Card + MS Card in , dmesg or fdisk doesn't show any change06:06
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xtknight_schoollspci -v06:06
xtknight_schoolfind it in there and see what it says06:06
adamylspci shows the hardware06:06
xtknight_schoolsudo lshw | less06:06
xtknight_schoolsee if there's a driver loaded06:06
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adamyhttp://forum.ubuntuclub.com/index.php/topic,196.0.html - I posted the result here06:11
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xtknight_schooladamy what about the "sudo lshw" output for the o2micro in question?06:13
xtknight_schoolactually just type "lsusb"06:13
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shirishxtknight_school: hi, i'm back06:15
heanol_I installed the xfonts-terminus package but i can't seem to select the terminus font in any gnome-dialog, though it exists in xfontsel. Anyone know the cause?06:15
heanol_Used to work fine.06:15
xtknight_schoolshirish i wont be home for quite a while and the hour is almost over06:16
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shirishok, so when do u want me to ping u back?06:16
xtknight_schoolshirish i'll be here in about 3.5 hours maybe06:16
shirishok I'll just pm u for a sec.06:17
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hylje.06:18
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CaptainApathyhm..does anyone know if the fglrx driver will be added to the repo anytime soon for the new kernel?  The most current one is for the 20-13 kernel...06:18
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adamyOh sorry06:18
adamyWrong one06:18
jussi01!paste | adamy06:18
ubotuadamy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:18
CaptainApathyhahaha so not only does he spam the channel, he spams the wrong thing... :P06:18
jussi01incase you misseed it :P06:18
xopher:D06:18
xtknight_schoollol06:19
adamyI didn't mean to paste it here ... just wanna put it on the web forum ... Hehehe06:19
heanol_I installed the xfonts-terminus package but i can't seem to select the terminus font in any gnome-dialog, though it exists in xfontsel. Anyone know the cause?06:19
xtknight_schooladamy hrmm that doesnt look like the Microcard reader ;P06:19
adamyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16146/ Here is the one from lsusb06:19
xtknight_schooladamy is the reader hooked up via USB?06:20
xtknight_schooloh its pci06:20
xtknight_schoolhmm06:20
xtknight_schoolwell again post the full output of "sudo lshw"06:20
xtknight_schoolall of it06:20
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xtknight_schoolshirish did you get my msg?06:20
adamyIt's the laptop integrated06:21
shirishxtknight_school: nope, I think I know what the issue is, it;s a gaim issue06:21
xtknight_schoolshirish xt.knight@gmail.com06:21
xtknight_schooli gotta go06:21
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eagles0513875i installed the nvidia binary but it broke my x what other options do i have to enable open gl06:23
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CaptainApathyeagles0513875: what video card do you have?06:24
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eagles0513875evga 6600 gt06:24
CaptainApathyyou may want to try the nv driver... it's an open source driver for nvidia chips... I think06:24
mc44but wont do open gl06:25
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CaptainApathymc44: does it not have any hardware acceleration?06:26
eagles0513875where do i get nv driver from06:26
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CaptainApathyeagles0513875: you probably already have it06:26
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eagles0513875really where06:26
CaptainApathyyou just have to change the driver used to nv instead of nvidia06:26
mc44CaptainApathy: I dont think it does open gl06:26
mc44CaptainApathy: I may be wrong06:27
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CaptainApathyin /etc/X11/Xorg.conf in the Device section06:27
CaptainApathychange Driver to "nv"06:27
eagles0513875brb06:27
CaptainApathyor, "nvidia" if it's not..06:27
CaptainApathymake sure you're really trying the driver out06:27
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eagles0513875fixed my problem CaptainApathy06:32
eagles0513875i just didnt start the x server06:32
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shirishstrange deborphan doesn't start anybody have ideas?06:32
shirishit was starting yesterday06:32
CaptainApathyah06:33
adamyCan anyone help me out with the card reader problem ? : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16147/ [lshw] 06:33
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eagles0513875i want to try out a mosix clustering kernel what do i have to do to set that up06:40
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Deafboyi just tried to boot the 20070415 live cd but i can't get to X it crashes06:41
omhahow can i recover a SSH key ?06:41
Deafboyshould i paste my log in here?06:41
mc44Deafboy: using what driver?06:41
mc44Deafboy: graphics card, sorry06:41
Deafboymc44: i belive it tried to use vesa by default06:41
Deafboymc44: ati x160006:41
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mc44paste there :)06:42
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alex_hi all. can anyone help me with my ubuntu feisty problem? I belive that my machine won't load the sound server. whenever I play a media file I get an error "can not connect to sound server"06:42
Deafboymc44: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16150/06:43
apokryphosalex_: /msg ubotu sound06:43
mc44Deafboy: hmm thats not good06:43
Deafboymc44: i got the same error when i used an old feisty beta disk and upgraded to the new kernel06:44
alex_apokryphos: I didn't understand what you want06:44
Deafboybut the odd thing is the OLD kernel no longer worked when i upgraded06:44
apokryphosubotu: sound | alex_06:44
ubotualex_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:44
mc44Deafboy: well. as a work around Id recommend installing via the alternate CD in text mode06:45
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eagles0513875what pkg do i dowload to enable mp3 support in amarok06:45
eagles0513875cuz amarok keeps freezing on me06:45
Deafboymc44: but won't X still be broken?06:45
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CapaHI have an ATI X800 XT Platinum Edition --- I am trying to get it to work with Ubuntu Feisty but it keeps crashing (on anything from loading certain webpages, to screensavers, etc) --- any help would be greatly appreciated06:46
mc44Deafboy: well, you can set up X to use the ati propriatry drivers then, which should work06:46
Deafboymc44: the fact that it works in the old .12 kernel before i update to newest would make me think some other package causes an incompatiblity06:46
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mc44Deafboy: were you using the fglrx drivers when updating the beta?06:47
alex_I used to be able to play mp3 until U downloaded song birs06:48
alex_I used to be able to play mp3 until U downloaded song bird06:48
alex_as for now I don't have any spiker icon on system tray06:48
Deafboymc44: no this was  a stock install06:48
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Deafboymc44: so still vesa drivers06:48
mc44Deafboy: do you have that install still?06:49
Deafboymc44: yeah it spits out the SAME error in both kerneles06:49
Deafboyas the live cd spits out06:49
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mc44Deafboy: does it drop you to the shell after the errors?06:49
Deafboyyeah06:50
Deafboyi cut gdm and tried to start X and i get the same issue06:50
mc44Deafboy: try installing the ati proprietary drivers from there06:50
Deafboymc44: why would vesa all of a sudden be broken :(06:51
mc44Deafboy: I have no clue. Its not good06:51
Deafboydamn06:52
alex_any help?06:52
Deafboyyou just cant play audio in songbird06:52
Deafboyor in total06:52
alex_deafboy: in total06:53
Deafboymc44: can i make the livecd run fglrx or is that not included on the cd cuz its proprietary XD06:53
Deafboyalex_ : did you get it from synaptic?06:53
mc44Deafboy: it is included but youd be better off just doing it from your current install, then you wont have to install again06:53
mc44Deafboy: Id be interested to know if that fixes it06:54
Deafboymc44: maybe vesa was updated and it's just broken :(,i would think that because its broken in BOTH kernels06:54
mc44right06:54
Deafboymc44: when i get back to my dorm i'll try it and let you know06:54
alex_no. I downloaded it from songbird's web site. I don't realy belive it has something to do with it. it simply has happen at about the same time06:54
mc44Deafboy: ok :) yo know how to install fglrx?06:55
Deafboymc44: i usually compile it myself06:55
mc44hehe06:55
Deafboybut i dont know the name of the package in syaptic =)06:55
alex_I did'nt install everything. only dowloaded the archive and extracted it06:55
alex_I don't know.06:55
Deafboybut i dont know the name of the package in syaptic =)?06:55
mc44Deafboy: xorg-driver-fglrx06:55
Deafboyoops06:55
DeafboyMT06:56
omhamy computer crashed and my ssh key is gone and ssh is broken, how can i fix it???06:56
Deafboydid you use sound since latest updates?06:56
mc44Deafboy: much much easier than compiling yoursel06:56
Deafboymc44: meh i like running new drivers =)06:56
Deafboybut i think feisty repos are much newer than edgy06:56
mc44Deafboy: the fesity ones are ati current I believe06:56
Deafboyalex_: are you running feisty?06:57
alex_Deafboy: I tried but I can't play any sound. (even the loging in music doesn't play)06:57
alex_Deafboy: yes. I'm using feisty06:57
Deafboyalex_: so sound has worked before?06:57
alex_yes06:57
mc44Deafboy: actully they are 34.8 vs 35.506:57
Deafboymc44: oh well ati makes such small as updates its not a big deal XD06:58
mc44right, they still suck06:58
Deafboyalex maybe it just got toggled on the wrong mixer06:58
Deafboyor its mutes06:58
Deafboy*muted06:58
mc44Deafboy: could you file a bug on the xserver when you do get it working? :)06:58
Deafboymc44: on feisty bugzilla or on xserver itself?06:59
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Deafboy*xorg06:59
mc44Deafboy: on launchpad (ubuntu bugzilla thingy)06:59
alex_I don't belive it's muted becouse I get an error messege "can not connect to sound server"06:59
alex_Deafboy: how do I check the mixer configuration?07:00
concept10How do I remove default options for grub?  Do I add another # to that option?07:00
Deafboyalex_: click the sound mixer in the corner of your screen07:00
Deafboyand go under preferences or something07:01
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mc44Deafboy: is your monitor an unusual size? :)07:02
wonderingWhen is this bug going to be fixed? I *still* see it in Feisty! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/6469507:02
ubotuMalone bug 64695 in meta-kde "KDE logout dialog is missing shutdown and restart options" [Undecided,Confirmed] 07:02
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alex_Deafboy: I right clicked the sound applet and choose "open volume control07:03
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eagles0513875is ntfs-3g compatible with a 64 bit os07:03
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concept10which kernel was the problematic one?  -14 or -13 or both?07:06
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mc44concept10: -107:09
mc44concept10: -1407:10
mc44rather07:10
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DVS01my sound isn't working in the april 15th RC of ubuntu7.  it worked right out of the box in edgy. i use the following device: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)07:16
DVS01i heard it only works with alsa. i have alsa installed07:16
crimsunthat's not enough information. Please download and execute the alsa-info script from http://bulletproof.servebeer.com/alsa/index.php?task=support07:18
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davidwyou guys happen to know if my rt61 pci wireless card is supported in feisty?07:20
DVS01crimsun: will do. thanks07:20
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Deafboymc44: you nailed the bug right on the head, it was the vesa driver, fglrx works fine =)07:22
CapaH... Ok, Whoever reads this: I have found a possible serious bug affecting either ATI cards or ABIT motherboards in Ubuntu Feisty Fawn. I installed a *fresh install* of Fesity Fawn on my computer, and it would crash in the following ways: 1) Random websites in firefox. 2) Screensaver upon leaving preview mode. --- Now, I uninstalled Feisty Fawn and I installed Edgy Eft --- problems are gone. Any ideas?07:22
mc44Deafboy: is your moniter an unusual size?07:22
Deafboymc44: 1280x96007:22
Deafboymc44: widescreen laptop thats about it07:22
CapaHwhen it would crash -- I could move the mouse, but the mouse cursor would not change in different screen regions *and* I could not use the keyboard, even the caps-lock key would not respond07:22
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DVS01I have a problem with ALSA, my sound isnt working, even though it did in Edgy.  Complete details from alsa-info.sh here: http://pastebin.ca/44500507:23
mc44Deafboy: so vesa obsiously cant do that mode07:24
tapas_DVS01: "doesn't work" means?07:25
DVS01no sound output07:25
DVS01devices are detected07:25
tapas_DVS01: post output of the command "amixer"07:25
DVS01oh crap07:25
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crimsunDVS01: I'll read it in a sec07:26
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DVS01dont07:26
DVS01im sorry guys.. this is working better than expected.. i had the headphones in the jack, and didnt hear the sound. this was reported to not work properly07:26
tapas_DVS01: hah ;)07:26
DVS01in windows, plugging them in causes the speakers to not play anymore07:26
crimsunheh.07:26
DVS01i read that this was problematic in linux07:27
DVS01apparently its fixed beyond that now =D07:27
crimsunit's not, we fixed it.07:27
DVS01thats awesome07:27
DVS01it even detects my mics n stuff07:27
DVS01nice07:27
davidwdoes the network upgrade work 'out of the box' at this point?07:27
davidwany notes on things to avoid?07:27
mc44Deafboy: if you could file a bug it would be great :)07:28
shirishdavidw: nope things are cool hre07:28
davidwgood, thanks07:28
mc44crimsun: any idea why vesa would be failing like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16150/07:28
shirishdavidw: are u you going to upgrade or do a fresh install?07:28
davidwupgrade07:29
DVS01awesome job on this. im a windows desktop user, i prefer to use linux as a backend. but now, things are changing.. =D07:29
crimsunmc44: not off the top of my head; I generally don't deal with video driver issues.07:29
DVS01i have an hp laptop (i can get model info if needed), and have read that the built-in webcam on it doesnt work in linux. you guys need me for testing?07:30
DVS01im gonna see if it works at the moment07:30
mc44crimsun: yeah I know :p But you are widely versed in everything :)07:30
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mc44crimsun: and tepsipakki isnt around :p07:30
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shirishmc44: i wish he was :(07:31
|NewUser|Is there anyhow i download any package in this system then transfer it on another system.. coz on another machine i dont have internet ?07:31
|NewUser|shirish,  Hello :)07:31
shirishdavidw: so while you're at it do some testing for the guys07:31
shirish|NewUser|: hey :)07:32
|NewUser|shirish, so hows ur fiesty going ? :>07:32
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shirish|NewUser|: touchwood nice till now07:33
|NewUser|shirish, still updating :) some packages c0z of my services still dont get all update ..07:34
shirishsad to hear that07:35
|NewUser|well is there anyhow ? i can download some packages in this machine then transfer it to another machine ?07:35
shirish|NewUser|: there is a way, but it needs a CD/DVD07:35
|NewUser|shirish, i have Usb07:35
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shirish|NewUser|: I don't know whether that would do the trick, there is a package called aptoncd which is capable of moving all the updates to a CD/DVD lemme check07:36
Deafboymc44: usually vesa just does the standard 1024x76807:36
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Deafboymc44: i mean it looks funky on my screen but it runs07:36
|NewUser|shirish, i have usb disk around 80gb..07:37
mc44Deafboy: right. For some reason it is saying mode not found...07:37
|NewUser|shirish,  can i transfer my updates or packages through usb ?07:37
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mc44Deafboy: if you could file a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+filebug it would be awesome07:38
psusiwas it intentional that Xchat was removed from the feisty livecd?07:38
shirish|NewUser|: well it seems u could but you would need lots of usb drives (maybe) depending on big the updates are07:38
|NewUser|shirish, its 80gb usb ? its not enough ?07:39
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|NewUser|shirish, well i need some packages like around 20 or 30 mb.. for eg. w32codecs or vlc player07:40
shirish|NewUser|: ah that's cool you would be able to do that then07:41
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richbMeh, I'm so unused to postfix, I need to rtfm.07:41
davidwit's making scary noises about removing sysvinit...07:41
|NewUser|shirish, where i can get this packages? is there any web where i can download this whole packages?07:42
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shirish|NewUser|: w32codecs u can get from debian site. Google for 'debian w32codecs' should give u the right thing07:43
Centaur5What package would have to be reinstalled on Feisty to get nvidia drivers to work?07:43
|NewUser|shirish, sure thanks m8 :)07:44
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Mikelevel|NewUser|~ try mediubuntu07:45
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DVS01crimsun: how did you guys fix that sound issue? you guys patched the kernel, or is it a userland fix?07:47
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|NewUser|Mikelevel, i want to just download the package in this machine.. then transfer it too another machine.. i want to install w32codecs in another machine . but i dont have internet connection on that machine.07:49
shirish|NewUser|: I would help you with this, but have u finished doing all the updates?07:50
|NewUser|shirish, yeah07:52
Mikelevel|NewUser|~ http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/non-free/07:53
Mikelevelselect i386 or 6407:53
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|NewUser|ok07:54
Woody_hello, how can i boot windows XP inside ubuntu?07:54
|NewUser|Mikelevel,  thanks dude :) yes i want this.07:54
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Deafboymc44: reported the bug =)07:54
PollywogI upgraded my laptop from Edgy to Feisty yesterday and it appeared to go well.  I want to upgrade another machine that runs Edgy and I wonder if I can copy the Feisty debs to /var/cache/apt/archives on the next machine to save time downloading  ?07:55
DeafboyWoody_: use vmware server07:55
XappeWoody_: install XP to a vm with vmware server or virtual box07:55
Woody_i already have XP installed on my other partition07:56
Woody_cant i make it boot inside linux?07:56
Pollywogit seems reasonable that this would work but does anyone know for sure?07:56
PollywogWoody: no07:56
Pollywoguse VMware07:56
Woody_where can i download it from07:56
Woody_?07:56
PollywogI think www.vmware.com07:56
Woody_okay thanks Pollywog07:57
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shirishPollywog: are both the machines have the same config?07:57
shirishPollywog: do both the machines have the same config?07:57
Pollywogshirish: no but they use the same packages for the most part07:57
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Pollywogso I think this might save d/l time07:58
shirishPollywog: true, the only part is the drivers things apart from that the logic should work07:58
Pollywogshirish: yes I understand that  :)07:58
Pollywogbut it took hours to download for the laptop07:58
Pollywogand hours to install because of the prompts while I was away from the machine07:59
PollywogI would have to answer the questions to resume the install   :)07:59
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shirishI understand, if you have no data to lose then try it, if nothing else you would know a thing or two for the next time07:59
Pollywogbut it turned out fine07:59
joshjoshUSB devices won't show up if I plug them in after boot, but do show up if i have them plugged in before boot...any ideas?08:00
DVS01guys08:00
Centaur5Is nvidia-glx still the package that is supposed to install the proprietary nvidia drivers?08:00
shirishPollywog: I have done upgrades through the CD way as well as through the wire but not lifting & putting stuff like you are trying08:00
DVS01there are people who have trouble getting hp pavilion laptop's onboard webcams to work. i found a solution: http://lsb.blogdns.net/ry5u870/08:00
Pollywogshirish: I am only going to copy the debs from one cache to the other, I am going to run everything else the same08:01
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Pollywoghopefully most of the packages will not need to be d/l again08:02
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shirishPollywog: that is exactly what I am saying, it should work08:02
Pollywogthe main diff is that one machine uses nvidia and the other does not08:02
Pollywogtnx08:02
shirishjust make sure that u have backed any imp. data before you take the leap08:03
psusiwas it intentional that Xchat was removed from the feisty livecd?  seems odd to not have an irc client anymore...08:03
Tom__ghi has anyone got aiglx and beryl/compiz working on an r350 chipset?08:03
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concept10What is saving vesa state for ?08:05
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meffis there a metapkg for all of the xorg fonts ubuntu installs?08:08
meffi'd like to put them all in my 32bit chroot also08:08
meffw/out installing x :)08:09
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Tom__ghas anyone got aiglx and beryl/compiz working on an r350 chipset? please help i fed up of xgl08:13
meffunless the drivers for it implement the correct gl calls, you're SOL and stuck to using xgl :/08:13
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ReTyPeFailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Subproces bzip2 gaf de foutcode 2 terug08:14
ReTyPei want to upgrade, but the wizard doesn't complete08:15
davidwwizard? what wizard?08:17
ReTyPesudo update-manger -c -d08:17
ReTyPethen the upgrade to 7.0408:17
ReTyPeit starts in a new window08:17
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ReTyPei disabled the security downloads in synaptic, and now it runs through08:20
ReTyPeone hour left08:20
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shirishdoes anybody know what a .desktop file is?08:21
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shirishReTyPe: I hope you are noting down somewhere whatever you are doing08:22
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ReTyPeshirish: it think its a descriptive file for a shortcut08:22
DVS01will beryl work if i install it using the package manager? or do i have to follow some special directions?08:23
tritonxis it me or the new cd image is not there yet ?08:23
shirishReTyPe: right, I got that also, but how to make it or what is to be done for that, looking for documentation08:23
shirishReTyPe: and I think its not just for desktop shorcut but also menu entry08:23
Gh0styomg even on this channel familiar faces, dag ReTyPe ;p08:23
shirishtritonx: you are right, no new releases something must be holding somewhere08:24
tritonxk, thanks Ill stop searching08:25
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ReTyPehello Gh0sty08:27
shirish@now calcutta08:27
ubotuCurrent time in Asia/Calcutta: April 17 2007, 23:57:21 - Next meeting: Community Council in 1 hour 32 minutes08:27
Gh0sty@now belgium08:27
slackern@now stockholm08:28
ubotuCurrent time in Europe/Stockholm: April 17 2007, 20:28:19 - Next meeting: Community Council in 1 hour 31 minutes08:28
slackernwoot :p08:28
Gh0sty@now brussels08:28
ubotuCurrent time in Europe/Brussels: April 17 2007, 20:28:29 - Next meeting: Community Council in 1 hour 31 minutes08:28
Gh0stybetter :)08:28
jussi01!botabuse08:28
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...08:28
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shirishjussi01: !humor08:30
shirishtritonx: u still there?08:31
finalbetaApparently selecting gray scale when printing doesn't actually make it gray scale. Printing is still so horrible. Wish the feisty specs where implemented08:31
tritonxyes08:31
shirishtritonx: seems 15 is for the cd build, 16 for the DVD build & 17 for the Kubuntu build08:32
ReTyPewhat's the download location of the packages during upgrade, because i allready have them ?08:32
shirishfinalbeta: which feisty specs ?08:32
finalbetashirish: all the printing ones.08:32
tritonxoh in there cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20070415/08:33
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shirishtritonx: right, if u do download them, do the testing bit08:33
finalbetashirish: 4 or 5 specs, none made it. But in the end I doubt they would fix this issue even.08:33
shirishfinalbeta: did you write some specs or what? you could give me the link so atleast I can take a look at them08:34
tritonxtesting bit, like installing and booting, I will try the persistent install on a usb key ....08:34
finalbetashirish: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty08:34
shirishtritonx: sure whatever u can, I hope u know where to file the test reports08:34
finalbetashirish: don't look to close, that page make make you depressed ;)08:34
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tritonxnope08:34
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shirishfinalbeta: lol08:34
shirishtritonx: hang on a moment08:35
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shirishtritonx: here u go https://www.stgraber.org/ubuntu/isotesting/08:35
shirishfinalbeta: thats part of wht can be done, I was hoping more for a wiki thing, where things are more fleshed out, anyway will search08:35
tritonxk, thanks08:36
finalbetashirish: the wiki pages are linked from that page, launchpad is the central place of management.08:36
shirishfinalbeta: I know that, I have made a blueprint and a wiki sort of08:37
locolbdcan anyone tell me why, every few minutes ubuntu kicks me off the internet and cannot locate my wireless connection untill i restart the computer08:37
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shirishfinalbeta: it seems printerdrake is the new way these guys would be going for gutsy08:40
ShaddoxMornin', everyone. ^^08:40
tritonxanyone knows if casper is fixed ?08:40
AdministratorX!casper08:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about casper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:41
nomasteryodashirish, mandrake had the better printer sharing/connection way back in 200208:41
tritonxits the program for writing changes to usbkey when in persistent mode08:41
lolman!info casper08:41
ubotucasper: Run a "live" preinstalled system from read-only media. In component main, is extra. Version 1.87 (feisty), package size 49 kB, installed size 312 kB08:41
shirishnomasteryoda: well no idea, I did play with mandrake at that time but didn't do any printing stuff so no idea08:41
finalbetaJeez, I don't have colour ink, would be nice if I could at least print in gray scale. lol. These pink pictures will damage my reputation ;)08:42
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RedRose!release08:45
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases08:45
RedRoseI know there is some delay in Feisty, when is it going to be official?08:45
locolbd!wireless08:46
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:46
AdministratorXlink says 3 days08:46
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AdministratorXlink on ubuntu main page08:47
ptrbeelo all, i need a little help & i'm a bit new so pls go easy on me08:47
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PirateHeadIs there a specific release date for Feisty yet?08:49
FunnyLookinHatPirateHead, the 19th08:49
shirishPirateHead: look at the topic08:50
ptrbeei upgraded to feisty today and have the java swig problem as i have enabled beryl, i found a patch here http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Java but cant seem to get it to work08:50
PirateHeadAah! I could have figured it out myself if I looked hard enough I guess.08:50
shirishguys how would I go about changing the font in gnome-terminal ?08:50
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ptrbeewould this be the best place to try to fix it?? or am i in the wrong place??08:50
lolmanshirish, Edit > Profiles > Edit then untick the top tick box, will let you change it then :)08:51
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AdministratorXptrbee: I had the same problem (java), will need to change some of the path lines.08:51
ptrbeeaha,,any idea which ones???08:52
AdministratorXsudo cp /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/rt.jar /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/rt.jar.orig08:52
AdministratorXsudo cp /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/rt.jar /tmp/java/rt/rt.zip08:53
shirishlolman: any suggestions to what would be a good font for terminal?08:53
nomasteryodaterminus08:54
lolmanshirish, I just use monospace, does me fine08:54
AdministratorXThose show the correct paths, :) I took notes...08:54
DVS01holy shit08:55
PriceChild!ohmy08:55
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:55
DVS01beryl + doom3 .. no lag08:55
DVS01sorry08:55
DVS01this kicks ass08:55
DVS01this is running sooo smoothly =D08:55
ptrbeethanks :)08:57
ptrbeegonna try now08:57
AdministratorXcool08:57
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shirishguys how to list what all files a package contains?08:59
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soothsayArgh. Does anyone know how to use tftpd?09:00
mc44shirish: dpkg -L packagename09:00
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shirishmc44: thanx09:05
phaidrosDVS01: which grafics card do you have? which driver?09:07
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ptrbeeAdministratorX: did u do this bit as well?? cd ../rt rm sun/awt/X11/XDecoratedPeer*09:09
shirishguys has anybody used this xfonts-terminus font?09:09
AdministratorXYes, I think I did, it's been a while now about 6 weeks ago09:09
ptrbeei get $ sudo rm sun/awt/X11/XDecoratedPeer*09:10
ptrbeerm: cannot remove `sun/awt/X11/XDecoratedPeer*': No such file or directory09:10
shirishAdministratorX: you have installed the xfonts-terminus font?09:11
AdministratorXYes I did do it, just checked my notes...09:11
AdministratorXsudo rm sun/awt/X11/XDecoratedPeer*09:11
ptrbeeit's not in /rt folder is it09:12
shirish nomasteryoda: are u still here?09:12
AdministratorXYes, once again I think I did install those fonts as well, however not 100% sure.09:12
shirishAdministratorX: ah I thought u were speaking with ptrbee as I looked up the conversation09:13
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shirishI'm having trouble finding them09:13
shirishI have installed them09:13
ptrbeethink i have properly mucked this up...right now i'm in the folder as per the guide but last night i installed in a /jar/ folder in my home & locate is showing that file there09:13
AdministratorXwhich file?09:14
ptrbeeXDecoratedPeer09:14
AdministratorXoh09:15
shirishAdministratorX: have u seen this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfonts-terminus/+bug/8606909:15
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ubotuMalone bug 86069 in xfonts-terminus "xfonts-terminus does not set up X11 font path correctly" [Undecided,Needs info] 09:15
shirishAdministratorX: I followed the solution given there & hence all the terminus fonts are now installed in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/09:16
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shirishAdministratorX: now how do I make that I can see what terminus fonts are & stuff like that09:16
Thug-N-Mewill release of Ubuntu version 7.04 be delayed ?09:17
AdministratorXNo, I had not seen it. Is it a KDE problem only09:17
AdministratorXI will book mark that page, and review it more once I leave work.09:18
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shirishok cool, just need to know the name of the terminal font, it would terminus right?09:18
shirishAdministratorX: because there is no font by the name of terminus which is there in the list09:18
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slytherinshirish: ping09:19
AdministratorXhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfonts-terminus/+bug/8606909:19
ubotuMalone bug 86069 in xfonts-terminus "xfonts-terminus does not set up X11 font path correctly" [Undecided,Needs info] 09:19
shirishslytherin: hi there09:19
slytherinshirish: pm?09:19
shirishsure09:19
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lm_hey can anyone tell me where i can change the default text encoding in gnome when i want to change it from utf-8 to western european?09:22
ptrbeeyep mucked up now dont know how to fix it :(09:22
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zdzichuBGlm_: change system locale. but better, don't do it09:23
lm_zdzichuBG: why?09:23
mon^rch I want to use emerald with compiz... but so far I can only see the "corners" of the window decoration... anyone know how to fix?09:23
lm_zdzichuBG: i installed kile to write som tex files. And i have set kile up to automatically encode them in western, but gnome apparently changes it to utf09:23
bur[n] ercan compiz use emerald?  I thought it only supported gtk window decorator or kwin deco09:24
zdzichuBGutf8 is better09:24
lm_zdzichuBG: so that when i open it again, its encoded in utf09:24
lm_zdzichuBG: not in my language09:24
bur[n] ermon^rch: why not use beryl instead?09:24
lm_zdzichuBG: utf cant write ,, 09:24
ptrbeethink emerald only works with beryl09:24
lm_zdzichuBG: (danish)09:24
mon^rchbur[n] er: because compiz is by far smoother09:25
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AdministratorXWow! I just read that Microsoft has created a Firefox Plugin for Windows Media played, Can you guess which platform's are not supported?? :)09:25
mon^rchhey, I'm a noob... just putting in my 2 cents.09:26
AdministratorXSorry Windows Media Player09:26
ptrbeemon^rch: way i understand it compiz is for those whose vga cards can't support beryls effects09:26
ptrbeenot as intensive on video09:26
lolmanAdministratorX, Mac and Linux? :P09:26
crdlbbur[n] er, ptrbee, there is a version of emerald in beryl's git repository that supports compiz09:26
ptrbeereally09:27
AdministratorXYou got that right!09:27
slytherinAdministratorX: Wasn't there a plugin already?09:27
mon^rchptrbee: my card can handle beryl's effects just fine... compiz feels way smoother... there just aren't as many effects (yet)09:27
lolmanAdministratorX, heh, mplayer is sufficient09:27
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darxwhere can i set the cpu frequency table?09:28
darxenhanced speed step that is09:28
bur[n] ermon^rch: hence the "feeling" smoother ;)  you could probably disable some beryl plugins to get the same smooth effect that compiz has ;)09:28
AdministratorXIf there was one it was not made by Microsoft..09:28
ptrbeek09:28
AdministratorXhttp://port25.technet.com/pages/windows-media-player-firefox-plugin-download.aspx09:28
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bur[n] erAdministratorX: don't paste that crap ;)  no one here can use it09:29
ptrbeei was trying compiz earlier to get around this java problem I have with beryl09:29
AdministratorXYeah, mplayer has been working well for be too.09:29
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MenahI09:29
crdlbthat's a problem with java itself09:29
MenaWhy mplayer wouldnt play avi files09:29
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AdministratorXlol09:29
darxdoes anybody here know who speed step works under ubuntu?09:29
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darx*how09:29
bur[n] erMena: codecs were missing I assume09:30
bur[n] er!codecs | Mena09:30
ubotuMena: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:30
crdlbdarx, I know how it works under linux09:30
crdlbare you having a problem?09:30
darxyup09:30
mon^rchbur[n] er: the one thing I noticed right off is the workspace switcher animation onj compiz is better... almost as if there are more frames or something... it just "looks" better. then I noticed that beryl's dragged windows are a little choppy, barely noticable... but there.09:30
MenaThanks09:30
darxcrdlb:i cant scale to 600mhz which is the lowest supported for pentium 74009:31
ptrbeecrdlb: i know but there is a patch thats supposed to fix it,,, something to do with AWT from what i read09:31
darxcrdlb: the lowest under linux is 798mhz09:31
slytherinMena: mplayer doesn't need codecs for avi files I think. Can you look into properties of that avi file and tell us which Video codec it uses?09:31
crdlbdarx, I've heard of that before, don't know anything about it though09:31
crdlbworks fine on my unnamed other distro09:32
darxcrdlb: i've also tried centos and i have the same issue.. can you shed some light of how speed step works under linux?09:32
darxcrdlb: share it in private please09:32
darxthe distro that is09:32
Menaslytherin, OK09:33
crdlbI get 600 Mhz on my pentium M 73509:33
darxcrdlb: hmm.. whats the distro?09:33
crdlbgentoo, but I've never tested it under ubuntu09:34
Menaslytherin, divx09:35
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Menaslytherin, but i tried to play many files09:35
Menabut it didnt work09:35
slytherinMena: I don't think mplayer should have a problem with divx. What error do you get?09:35
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darxcrdlb: gentoo is too much for me ATM.. but if it works in gentoo, it should in ubuntu as well..09:35
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ptrbeefinally....got the patch to work but java still messing about under beryl ,,frostwire etc still grey :( anyone managed to fix this??09:36
Frost^Hello.09:36
slytherinMena: What error do you get?09:36
slytherinFrost^: hi09:36
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Menaslytherin, error opening/initializing the selected viideo_out (-vo) device09:37
Frost^I was wondering if there's a reason for ubuntu packages to be compiled for 386 machines, rather than being optimized to a newer architecture.09:37
Frost^Is there a reason?09:37
slytherinMena: That is not problem with file. Open mplayer preferences and change video plugin to xv09:38
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Menaok09:38
bur[n] erMena: try vlc or totem-xine with libxine-extracodecs09:38
Menaok09:38
slytherinbur[n] er: You are solving the wrong problem09:38
slytherinMena: Just try what I told you.09:39
Menaslytherin, its working now09:39
bur[n] eroh09:39
bur[n] erneato... I don't know as much about mplayer09:39
Menaslytherin, Thanks09:39
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slytherinFrost^: good question. I think i386 is generic term for x8609:40
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Frost^Well, x86 might be a bit outdated still. I think nowadays a 586 or 686 optimization would be more appropriate, and as far as I can tell, you can feel the performance difference.09:42
izaakFrost^: i think most linux binaries these days are compiled with pentium optimisations, so you couldn't use a 486 for example.09:42
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Frost^I see. Well, I think it's worth checking, and I would have liked to somehow start a debate on this, only I wouldn't know where to post such a question.09:43
Menaslytherin, i am using arabic subtitle for movies09:43
|NewUser|!easysource09:43
Menaslytherin, why all work worng09:43
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:43
Menaslytherin, the uicode wont work right09:44
Menaunicode09:44
slytherinMena: That I don't know. :-) May be some problem with subtitles itself.09:44
Frost^Any ideas what could be a proper place to post, being accessible to the developers?09:44
stefg!generic09:44
ubotuBackground to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)09:44
Menaslytherin, working on xp09:44
Menabut linux no09:44
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slytherinMena: Personally I use mplayer very less. I use Totem with gstreamer backend and all gstreamer plugins installed. :-)09:45
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ptrbeethanks for help guys...will tackle this later need to rest brains...byee09:45
richbHmm:fatty kernel: [  145.971290]  Eeek! page_mapcount(page) went negative! (-1)09:45
Menaslytherin, ok09:45
Menaslytherin, Thanks  :)09:45
richbHarmless?09:45
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Tahir_Hmost people claim that with ff we will have wifi support out of the box but will there be support for broadcom cards? Because they require ndiswrapper09:46
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cypherdelicwhat's else to do for feisty final?09:47
slytherinTahir_H: It depends on the chipset. Some need firmware to be cut from Windows driver or ndiswrapper while some have native drivers I think.09:48
shirishcypherdelic: lot of testing for the RC builds, other than that sit tight09:49
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Tahir_Hslytherin: but will all this be done for you ..09:50
Tahir_Hthat is it automatically detects that you have a broadcom bcm4306 wireless card and then it loads up ndiswrapper and does everthing for you without having to touch the command line?09:51
slytherinTahir_H: Not automatically, Ubuntu can't ship firmware nor can they ship Windows driver to be used with ndiswrapper09:51
slytherinTahir_H: You can install ndisgtk if you are so afraid of command line.09:51
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ShaddoxHi everyone. How do I play a WMA format audio file in Totem or Rhythmbox, or is there a linux build of Windows Media Player?09:52
ReTyPei hate the mid-dist-upgrade nag-screens, i went out, and it stopped almost right after it started09:52
crdlbI think ffmpeg can play some wma files09:52
ShaddoxAH!09:52
ShaddoxI used to have FFDshow/FFMpeg/FFAVI back when i was on Windows ^^09:52
Shaddoxits in the CCCP, isn't it?09:53
Tahir_Hslytherin:  I am not afraid of the command line but I am thinking of the numorous ppl who have had problems09:53
crdlbShaddox, for some you may need w32codecs, which won't work with rhythmbox afaik09:53
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Shaddoxcrdlb: these are copy-protected wma's, though, is that a problem?09:53
crdlbyes09:53
crdlbthey won't play then09:53
Shaddoxah crap...09:53
crdlbdrm sucks09:53
Shaddoxwell, time to get on my Gnutella thing then and re-download them. ^^09:53
richbI guess I should bug report it then.09:53
Shaddoxmy entire LP Reanimation cd wont play then, but since i have the CD i won't get busted or anything09:54
slytherinShaddox: copy protected wma are a problem. Otherwise I would have just asked you to install some packages09:54
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Shaddoxmy cd drive is damaged though ^^09:54
Shaddoxi get I/O errors at the randomest times09:54
kupesoftWhy doesn't feisty have Wireshark 0.99.5 - it was released Feb 1st,09:55
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shirishslytherin: are u using an intel chipset by any chance?09:55
Woody_guys, how can i add a program to startup?09:55
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crimsunWoody_: System> Preferences> Sessions09:56
slytherinshirish: My PC is using AMD processor and Via chipset. But my dad's laptop is Intel Pentium AM. What is your question.09:57
DickBobSteveanyone noticed09:57
DickBobSteveforcedeth bug in 2.6.20?09:58
shirishthere were 2 releases which happened over the night, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:1.9.94-1ubuntu3 this is the driver I want. I have the earlier one which I manually installed from a bug-report09:58
Woody_thanks crimsun09:58
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PollywogI was upgrading to Feisty and Samba's install script is broken and the install got stuck09:59
Pollywogand the bug reporting thing won't work09:59
slytherinshirish: your bad luck. I am away from hometown. :-)09:59
shirishslytherin: the one which I downloaded is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting/+bug/9021309:59
ubotuMalone bug 90213 in xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting "xf86-video-intel 1.9.91 (2.0 RC1) is out, and would be nice to have as the source for the xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting package" [Undecided,In progress] 09:59
shirishok cool :p09:59
Pollywogand when I tried to stop the installer it told me not to stop it, but it is stuck there09:59
shirishI would have to do a manual re-install the day the final build comes out I guess, if the driver doesn't update in the next 2 days.10:00
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enycI have machine installed from  20070415/feisty-alternate-i386.iso  ... intel 8?? chipset Pentium-4 ASUS board...   hard disk on SATA, dvd-writer-drive on PATA (used for install).  I am getting errors in nautiles/gnome trying to "eject" or "mount" the dvd-drive...10:00
enyc(nb: using cd version of feisty)10:01
slytherinenyc: what errors?10:01
slytherinPollywog: try to remove samba (I assume it is samba server), finish the upgrade process an then try to install samba again.10:01
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enycslytherin: I'm not at the building w/ the machine... but...  it said something like there is no disk in the drive10:02
enycslytherin: even trying to "eject"... and when cd tray out trying to "mount"10:02
enycslytherin: I think I souhld investiate using "eject" command, livecd, kernel dmesg ...10:02
enycslytherin: I wasted to knew if this may be a problem with libata PATA running or something you see10:03
Pollywogslytherin: thanks, I stopped the install, removed samba, and restarted10:03
PollywogI think it is working10:03
enycI particuarly wanted to know if anybody (recognizes this behaviour*10:03
slytherinenyc: Wasn't there some PATA related bug fixed recently with some kernel update?10:03
ShackJackHi all - hopefully a simply question - how does one make use of the extra gtk2-engines-* packages in the repos... I've tried installing a couple expecting them to show in other control sets in "Theme Prefs"...10:03
crdlbShackJack, you need to install themes that actually use the engines10:04
crdlbor modify existing themes to use them10:04
enycslytherin: quite possibly.. note the system reports no updates (sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) since I installed it  iirc10:04
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ShackJackcrdlb - gotcha thanks!10:04
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enycslytherin: at least... certainly not a kernel upgrade10:04
slytherinShackJack: Considering that you are on feisty, all the engines package are now dummy packages for upgrade purpose. Only real package is gtk2-engines10:05
slytherinenyc: What is kernel version? Check version of linux-image package10:05
Menaslytherin, what if i installed totem ...what plugins i need ? :)10:05
ShackJackslytherin - DOH! Does that mean they won't work or are just for older GNOMEage?10:05
Menaslytherin, or codecs10:06
davidwmmmmm I wonder what happens when it tries to remove sysvinit in place of the new thing?10:06
enycslytherin: let me know anthing else that should be checked if needbe... but it invalves going to other office tomorrow etc...10:06
slytherinMena: Are you on Ubuntu or KUbuntu?10:06
Menakubuntu10:06
slytherindavidw: Don't.10:06
Pollywogif I install the codecs are the police going to bust in my door?10:06
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davidwslytherin, no?10:07
slytherinenyc: You should probably go to packages.ubuntu.com, check for linux-image packages and check changelogs10:07
enycslytherin: [ok] 10:07
davidwit conflicts with upstart though10:07
slytherindavidw: No unless you are very sure what you are doing10:07
slytherinMena: On KUbuntu, kaffeine should be default media player which uses xine backend. In that case you will need to install some extra xine packages10:08
davidwubuntu-base depends on upstart, which conflicts with sysvinit10:08
Menaslytherin, ok10:08
xopherWhy doesn't dragging a file (to extract) from file-roller to nautilus/desktop work anymore?10:08
xopherIt just doesn't seem to focus in the other window10:08
crdlbbecause it was disabled due to a bug10:09
slytherindavidw: See if the upgrade installs upstart-compat-sysv package. In that case removing sysvinit is fine10:10
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slytherinxopher: when was it working?10:10
davidwyeah10:10
soothsayHow can I do a 'complete removal' (remove all configuration files, like in Synaptic) using apt-get?10:10
soothsayOr CLI10:10
davidwsoothsay, use _ in dselect10:10
crdlbsoothsay, sudo apt-get remove --purge package10:11
Peakersoothsay: apt-get --purge remove package10:11
xopherslytherin, in edgy it worked10:11
slytherinsoothsay: apt-get --purge remove packagename10:11
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soothsayThanks all10:11
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slytherinxopher: I never really use selective extracting10:11
xopherI used it all the time, handy when you open an archive from the browser10:12
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richbThere, bug reported:-)10:14
Woody_people, where can i get themes for beryl and ubuntu?10:14
atiredmachineWoody_ gnome-look.org ?10:14
Woody_ah ok10:14
richbWoody_: Do you mean for Gnome?10:14
Woody_yes richb10:15
xopherwell both emerald and metacity themes work on beryl so ..10:15
slytherinWoody_: For beryl install emerald and its theme package.10:16
atiredmachineHey, every once in a while I'll be doing something like browsing the web and my system will kind of freeze up.. I can still move my mouse and music still plays, but nothing responds.  Usually only lasts a few seconds, but last time it happened I couldn't get it out of it.  Any ideas?10:16
stefg!ipv610:16
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv410:16
slytherinatiredmachine: Check the RAM with memtest86+10:16
richbatiredmachine: Is there anything suspect in any log files?10:17
slytherinWoody_: By the way, how is Buzz Lightyear? ;-)10:17
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|NewUser|well i tried " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade " in last it shows " 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. "10:18
|NewUser|What does it mean ? my distro is completely up to date?10:18
stefgyup10:18
slytherin|NewUser|: Yes.10:18
|NewUser|ty10:18
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sylpheedClawsWill Feisty still ship on time, even with the delays?10:19
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mstrzelehi, anybody uses xserver-xorg-video-intel in feisty?10:20
shirishmstrzele: yup me10:20
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richbIs there any GUI for configuring iptables with fiesty?10:20
mstrzelei have a problem with it. after installation in gdm login field font is very large10:20
slytherinrichb: Firestarter10:20
atiredmachineslytherin, how do I do that?10:20
mstrzeleu too?10:20
atiredmachinerichb, which log files should I look at?10:20
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shirishmstrzele: which version are u using?10:21
sylpheedClawsfs-secutiry.net, or AX10:21
richbslytherin: Ah, is that with base?10:21
mstrzelegdm or x-x-video-intel?10:21
Pollywogwhat is catapult?10:21
slytherinatiredmachine: You should have a memtext86+ menu entry in GRUB boot loader10:21
shirishmstrzele: x-x-video-intel10:21
richbatiredmachine: /va/log/Xorg.0.log /var/log/kern.log10:21
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slytherinrichb: I didn't get you10:21
Pollywogoh it's a shortcut thing10:22
mstrzelexserver-xorg-video-intel 2:1.9.94-1ubuntu310:22
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richbslytherin: I just recall Fedora had an applet to configure iptables was all-might be a fun thing to work on.10:22
shirishmstrzele: did u compile it, or did it come down through update-manager?10:22
defendguinhey i have to go give a little presentation to the rest fo the local ubuntu linux user's group about changes in feisty.  where can i get the release notes?10:22
shirishmstrzele: I am asking as I have 1.9.93 here10:23
slytherinrichb: I think firestarter is all you will ever need.10:23
mstrzeleshirish: i've installed it throught aptitude (x-x-video-intel is in the universe, before it i was using x-x-video-i810)10:23
atiredmachinerichb, it's giving me some xf86OpenSerial errors about not being able to open device /dev/wacom10:24
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RprpHi, Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?10:24
shirishmstrzele: ok I'm getting the update as we speak, let u know in few minutes10:24
mstrzeleshirish: ok, i'll wait10:25
crdlbdefendguin, here's a list of goals: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty10:25
richbatiredmachine: I doubt that's it-maybe try booting and running memtest as suggested if there is nothing odd in the log files.10:25
slytherinRprp: Sound issues are hard to debug on IRC. :-)10:25
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defendguincrdlb, i guess thats a good place to start10:25
atiredmachinealright, I'll be back..10:25
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shirishmstrzele: gotta reboot, see how things pan out, be back in some-time.10:25
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Rprpslytherin: First my mic was working......10:26
klickerCan anyone offer some guidance on the new Network Manager app?10:26
slytherinklicker: what kind of guidance do you need?10:26
slytherinRprp: File a help ticket or bug on launchpad.10:26
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|NewUser|well on top of right.. there is network icon.. my net works fine but the icons not blinking ?10:27
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soothsay|NewUser|: You like blinking lights?10:27
klickerMy NM interface does NOT look like what is shown on the website (I believe that is where I saw it).  I've uninstalled and reinstalled it, but it still looks the same as it was with Edgy.10:27
|NewUser|soothsay:  yea :S10:27
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slytherin|NewUser|: That is because network manager is not managing your statically configured interface10:27
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slytherinklicker: Check my reply to |NewUser|10:28
soothsayslytherin: Mine does not blink either (thankfully)10:28
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|NewUser|slytherin: then how can i manage it ?10:28
klickerI have two icon near the clock.  Both look like two PC screens.10:28
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slytherin|NewUser|: It depends on your network. You will have to first set the network interface on dhcp and then enable roaming mode. But makre sure that dhcp works.10:29
BadRabbit320anyone know if the official release will have broadcom wifi support included?10:29
|NewUser|slytherin:  i m using staticip method10:29
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slytherinBadRabbit320: No it will not have. Broadcom chipsets need firmware which is not Free.10:30
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BadRabbit320bummer...put ff on my new laptop but just can't get wifi to work.  tried several howto's but I'm obviously doing something wrong10:32
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TheVaultWhat other programs are there to record your desktop? Iv used Istanbul & it sucks because it always crashes. Everytime guarentee10:33
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klicker1sorry ... back.10:33
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BadRabbit320ndiswrapper IS installed, windows drivers are extracted into /etc/src, but i don't know if that's where they 'should' be.10:33
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shiris1mstrzele: are u there?10:34
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MenaIs that good if i use utorrent under wine i mean do i will get the best perfromance of the program or not10:34
mstrzeleshiris1: yes10:34
shiris1ok, things are fine at my end10:34
mstrzeleTheVault: gtkRecordMyDesktop10:34
shiris1sorry lights went out for a moment10:34
klicker1I changed it to 'roaming' and now I can't connect via wireless, which is how I connected before.10:34
BadRabbit320how do I get the clock into a 12 hour format?10:35
TheVaultmstrzele: does that crash alot?10:35
mstrzeleshiris1: hmm, compiz also started behaving strange with x-x-video-intel on my laptop10:35
shiris1mstrzele: whats your chipset?10:35
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eugmanFailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)   What's my problem?10:36
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shirishmstrzele: I have i845 on the desktop here & it works exactly as it working with 1.9.9310:36
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mstrzeleTheVault: I used in on SLED to record new gnome-main-menu10:36
mstrzeleshirish: i have Intel GMA 950 (Intel 945GM laptop chipset)10:37
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mstrzele*it10:37
TheVaultmstrzele: Alright, I'm installing it now. I'll see if it works good10:37
Stormx2My fonts have screwed up.10:37
Stormx2Observe;10:37
Stormx2http://stormx.no-ip.org/www/Screenshot-Halo%202%20Softmodding%20Modding%20Tutorial!%20-%20Mozilla%20Firefox.png10:37
shirishTheVault: what chipset do u have?10:37
Woody_can i have the windows vista theme for my ubuntu?10:37
TheVaultshirish: Chipset of what?10:37
mstrzeleWoody_: go to the http://www.gnome-look.org/10:38
shirishTheVault: I thought u have an intel chipset for graphics10:38
TheVaultshirish: Yeah I do10:38
Woody_im in there mstrzele10:38
TheVaultshirish: I have a 945GM Express Chipset10:38
Woody_ill search for one anyway mstrzele10:38
davidwdammit, the upgrade is broken10:38
shirishTheVault: ok cool10:38
klicker1What happened to slytherin ?10:38
shirishdavidw: its not, it works fine10:39
davidwProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.10:39
shirishits 2 a.m. here10:39
TheVaultshirish: Yeah, I'm going to start helping noobs & things install things through videos10:39
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mstrzeleWoody_: there is a vista theme for compiz I guess10:39
shirishklicker its 2 a.m. here10:39
mstrzeleit looks like vista (transparent panels and etc.)10:39
shirishTheVault: cool, what are u going to use for screencasting?10:39
klicker1Okay.  I got disconnected and when I got back (30 seconds or so) he was gone.10:40
TheVaultshirish: Just installed RecordMyDesktop but I don't know how to use it10:40
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ShaddoxDoes anyone here happen to know anything about setting up BIND, by any chance? ^^10:40
klicker1So would anyone else care to assist me with the new Network Manager app?10:40
shirishTheVault: never heard of it, although have been searching for a screencasting application10:41
NaddiseoMm, my mouse has frozen.. bugga!10:41
TheVaultshirish: There is istanbul but everytime I use that and get done recording, it crashes. It crashes everytime guarentee10:41
TheVaultshirish: Trying to figure out how to use recordmydesktop and I'm not getting no success, so Imma find another I think10:42
shirishTheVault: for me it just stays there, does nothing10:42
shirishTheVault: where did you find it, it isn't in the repos10:42
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TheVaultshirish: I just did sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop10:42
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Woody_guys, im new to linux.. i need some help.  I downloaded a theme with .tar.gz as an extension to my desktop. i want to install that theme, what should i do/use?10:43
mstrzeleTheVault: there is xvidcapture also, if u want encode your videos Xvid codec10:43
TheVaultshirish: I'm using Feisty fawn10:43
TheVaultmstrzele: Is that easy to use?10:43
shirishTheVault: same here, I am using aptitude show <packagename> to find more about it10:43
ShaddoxHi everyone: How can I get sound in a game that uses the Quake III engine working?10:43
BluesKajmisfit_toy, are you available10:43
BluesKaj?10:43
TheVaultshirish: I'm not to fimiliar with the aptitude command10:44
shirishTheVault: I had no idea it was low, in unix one has to be careful of caps & small letters10:44
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ash211aptitude == apt-get for all general purposes10:44
TheVaultash211: Oh ok, Thanks 4 the info10:44
budluva_Woody_: goto system/preferences/theme10:44
mstrzeleTheVault: yes :) for me10:44
Woody_okay10:44
budluva_Woody_: then click on install theme10:45
TheVaultmstrzele: Will I have to install any extra software to use Xvidcapture?10:45
budluva_Woody_: or drag the tar.gz into that window10:45
klicker1Fixed.  Never mind on the Network Manager issue.  Thank you.10:45
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shirishTheVault: although they do have a site if you're interested to spend some time around http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/10:45
mstrzeleTheVault: google for "xivdcap +Ubuntu" and open second link10:46
TheVaultmstrzele: I just found this article on xvidcapture - http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/02/05/194332.php10:46
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budluva_Woody_: all good now?10:47
mstrzeleTheVault: on xvidcap's site are *.deb packages, http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/10:47
mstrzeleTheVault: sorry, I can't check the links, I'm on the terminal without any browser (w3m or lynx...)10:48
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TheVaultmstrzele: Thnx, imma use xvidcap10:49
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shirishmstrzele: then how are u talking to us, what application are u using to chat with us?10:51
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shirishmstrzele: w3m is cool :p10:54
mstrzeleshirish: irssi ;)10:54
shirishmstrzele: have to check it out also10:55
mstrzeleshirish: i preffer links210:55
mstrzeleshirish: it's have something-like gui ;) you can use your mouse if U have installed gpm10:55
shirishmstrzele: would check that one out also10:55
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mstrzeleshirish: and it handles pages with javascript10:56
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greig_where could i download some themes for feisty??10:56
shirishmstrzele: cool, you said if you have installed gpm, its not a dependency, a suggested package?10:56
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jfm3I'm testing Feisty on my laptop and I'm not sure if I've found a bug or if I'm operating the UI stuipidly:  I get on the wireless network here, everything works, then I plug in the wired network, wireless access then goes away, which is fine, but eth1 (the wireless ix) starts showing up in the routing table later, and in general my network connectivity seems to pause from time to time.  Clues?10:57
mstrzeleshirish: yes, suggested10:57
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shirishmstrzele: this should have been in the package, oh well, would install that as well, its always good to have alternative browsers around, never know when the GUI goes out :)10:57
mstrzeleshirish: the gui goes out if u install x-x-video-intel on laptop with intel gma 950 ;] 10:58
shirishmstrzele: lol, I got that10:59
lm_hey could anybody hel me here? I just downloaded the fncychap.sty package to use with latex... where do i have to put the sty file?10:59
shirishmstrzele: have u already reported the bug?10:59
mstrzeleshirish: yes, i've also attached Xorg.0.log11:00
shirishmstrzele: seems TheVault went off long time ago11:00
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shirishmstrzele: perhaps x-session.errors would also be in order, I was asked for it11:00
mstrzeleshirish: i think the problem is with dpi calculating and real screen size reporting by intel driver11:00
lm_anybody?11:00
shirishmstrzele: not much idea about that, noob here11:00
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mstrzeleshirish: me too11:01
shirishmstrzele: well but u seem better informed than me in this regard atleast11:02
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shirishmstrzele: I have also been skipping the x.org mailing list but only just, most of the things are outta my reach11:02
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shirishmstrzele: wow, links2 is cool11:03
lupine_85elinks is cooler :p11:03
shirishlupine_85: damn, one more lol :p11:04
crdlb_can elinks show images?11:04
lupine_85not AFAIK11:04
crdlb_links2>elinks :D11:04
mstrzeleshirish: feisty is first release with which i'm thinking of leaving debian11:04
shirishmstrzele: that's sad to note :(11:04
poningruelinks++11:04
poningrufor the js11:04
shirishmstrzele: or you mean leave debian & come to ubuntu ?11:05
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lupine_85feisty is the first release that made me switch to debian :p11:05
shirishlol11:05
shirishponingru: as per mstrzele link2 also does javascript11:05
poningruuh... it does?11:05
shirishbrb gotta make some coffee11:05
shirishponingru: yup supposedly it does11:06
poningrumstrzele: link?11:06
mstrzeleshirish: yes, on everyday i'm using debian and freebsd ;)11:06
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lupine_85just me11:06
kadakaswhen i try deleting something in Nautilus, I get this error message: "Not on the same file system"11:07
soothsaykadakas: Is it a warning or an error?11:08
kadakasis an error11:08
shirishmstrzele: ok cool11:08
kadakasi can delete the same file via terminal without no problems11:08
kadakasi've tried with multiple files11:09
soothsaykadakas: Can you shift-delete them?11:09
mstrzeleponingru: links.twibright.com/features.php11:09
kadakasyes11:09
kadakasthank you11:09
kadakasthat works11:09
soothsaykadakas: It's trying to move the files to the trash11:09
soothsaykadakas: It probably doesn't want to do that if the trash and the files are on different file-systems (probably very slow to move them)11:10
kadakasso its a "feature", not a bug ?11:10
soothsaykadakas: shift-delete really removes them (like rm)11:10
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soothsaykadakas: Heh. AFAICT yes. If you had a mounted network filesystem you wouldn't want to move a large file to your local disk when you were trying to delete it.11:11
kadakastrue11:12
jhutchinsDoes anyone have 1)Any USB Wireless card and B) A netgear WG111T working in either Edgy or Feisty?11:12
davidwwhat's happening with the ppc release of ubuntu... dead completely , or what?11:12
TheSilentWhello, can anyone help me with this http://pastebin.ca/445412 dont get any reply on #winehq :(11:12
kadakasdavidw: ppc as in pocketpc ?11:12
soothsaykadakas: PowerPC11:12
kadakask11:12
davidwyeah11:12
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soothsaydavidw: I remember hearing it was being discontinued.11:13
davidwyeah, that's what I recall too:-(11:13
shirishsame here11:13
soothsaydavidw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCReview11:14
soothsaydavidw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SavePPC11:14
shirishnot enough manpower I guess11:14
davidwyep11:14
Woody_people, how can i install my printer?11:14
davidw"in search of stupidity" has some good commentary on motorola's marketing of its chips:-/11:14
richbWoody_:system->administration->printing11:15
soothsayWoody_: Are you having a problem with System->Administration->Printing->Add Printer?11:15
Woody_it says: reading printer database and stops11:16
shirishthat should have read not enough brainpower I guess11:17
soothsaydavidw: I was wrong. PPC is not being discontinued. Just not officially supported11:17
soothsaydavidw: "Removal of the PowerPC port entirely is not under consideration."11:17
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richbWoody_:stops?11:18
Woody_richb: it got stuck11:18
Woody_im going to try it again11:18
soothsayWoody_: What happens exactly? The applications freezes?11:19
Woody_yes11:19
Woody_the applications freezed soothsay11:19
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Woody_i think its working now11:19
Woody_it worked now soothsay, richb11:19
Woody_ah okay, easy11:19
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tomaszHello i've got a problem with cpu frequency scalling. Got 7.04 and C2D and seems not to work;/ Been searching the internet for 5 past days and I am a bit confused, anyone could help?11:20
shirishtomasz: I have heard you before, can u elaborate what do u mean by frequency scaling?11:21
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mon^rchhey :) I got the emerald themer working with the new compiz :)11:21
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soothsayshirish: I assume he means the power saving feature (primarily for laptops) of reducing CPU frequency11:22
shirishah, that I read some bug on that today, didn't connect that with power scaling11:22
tomaszMy cpu has speedstep so i guess it should go down to sth about 800Mhz (1Ghz? whatever) while idle and on battery. While the grub manager says that it cannot change /scale the cpu freq. I did enable laptop-mode11:23
tomaszYeah, laptop :)11:23
shirishtomasz: did u check launchpad.net there is a bug-report written specifically on that11:23
shirishtomasz: there is also something on the wiki, saw it today but had been reading like anything the whole day so won't recall the links11:24
shirishtomasz: btw I'm a desktop user11:24
iocasteI'm a desktop user and use CPU frequency scaling. Although I set it up ages ago on Dapper and can't remember how I did it :(. Seems to be working OK on feisty for me11:25
mon^rchwhat package do Install again to get GL Desktop in my menu?11:25
tomaszshirish: I C. well i haven't checked that website. will do that now. anyway google doesn't know the answer, or i don;'t know how to ask :)11:25
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spikehi there11:26
shirishtomasz: what I would suggest is looking at launchpad for the bug-report on similar lines11:26
shirishtomasz: failing that wiki.ubuntu.com , think there is a spec. workaround or something like that11:26
atselbyi just did an update and now my sound died. any help?11:26
spikewas updating feisty but it dies with the following error: http://paste.debian.net/2589311:26
shirishsorry can't help u much11:26
spikethere seems to be something wrong with volumeid...11:27
spikerunning a raid system, no lvm11:27
atselbygoddamn11:27
atselbyhows the update affect the frciking sound11:27
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richbIt's beta, things go wrong:)11:29
tomaszshirish: THX i guess i found similar problem, hope i could find a solution11:29
shirishwelcome11:29
Woody_from Fiesty beta to Fiesty Final, upgrading is easy? or i should burn the image file and reinstall it?11:30
atselbyrichb: i know but the update has nothing to do with sound...11:30
|NewUser|well how can i install opera ? is there opera in repo ?11:30
richbatselby: if you do system->preferences->sond what does it show you?11:32
shirishWoody_: I would recommend burning an image, and trying to upgrade using the CD as your upgrade path11:32
atselbyrichb: not loading. hold on.11:32
atselbyrichb: here we go.. selection for playback11:33
shirishWoody_: for it fails, you do have the option to install it from the CD itself11:33
Woody_shirish: my setting will be the same? or i will lose everything?11:33
richbatselby: Does it show your sound card there?11:33
atselbyrichb: set to auto detect on all but capture11:33
Woody_what is the best Bible reading software there?11:34
shirishWoody_: as always, its good to have backups, although you shouldn't have any major issues if you follow the correct procedure11:34
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richbatselby: if you select the menu does it show the card in there?11:34
Woody_ah okay shirish, thanks for the infos11:34
atselbyrichb: i cant recall what card i have but it shwos a great deal...11:34
atselbyrichb; leme check the card.11:34
atselbywait. on autodetecct the test works. {richb{11:35
richbatselby: Mm, sounds like an application problem then, what were you using when it did not work?11:35
atselbyrichb: Firefox.11:35
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richbatselby: I don't understand11:36
atselbyrichb: from a flash based script, the myspace music player.11:37
atselbyrichb: is there any option for plugins such as flash to paly sound?11:37
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richbAh I don't use Flash I am afraid.11:37
atselbyokay well. ill search around.11:37
atselbyi hadnt messed with sound prefs so.. Thanks though richb.11:37
richbNP.11:37
N6REJhas anyone gotten vmware-server to install in fiesty?  I can't seem to get it11:37
|NewUser|is there any opera for fiesty ?11:38
atselbyrichb: fixed in a firefox setting... musta been changed in an upgrade of some kind.. huhm11:38
richbatselby: All's well that ends well:-)11:41
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Woody_does Google Earth work in Fiesty?11:44
atselbywoody_: ive got it want me to try?11:44
Woody_if you have the time atselby11:44
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atselbywoody_: sure thing, i was wanting to test it through some anywho11:45
Woody_what are you using for compilation?11:45
instabinI upgraded 6.10 to 7.04 and when i used the restricted drives manager to install the nvidia driver it wont start x. Says it faild to load glx11:45
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Bebitohi11:45
atselbywoddy_: it just crashed for me..11:46
Woody_atselby, what are you using for compilation?11:46
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atiredmachineSo my system sometimes freezes up (but music keeps playing and I can still move my mouse) for a few seconds, but last time it did it it didn't come out of it.  I've checked my logs and memcheck86+11:46
Woody_ah :( atselby11:46
atselbywoody: just crashed. and i dont recall exactly since it was installed back on edgy but.. think i got it right from the google site11:46
richbinstabin: Could you post your xorg.conf somewhere?11:46
atselbywoody_: it might work in a fresh install so i dunno. good luck though11:46
Woody_maybe with the final release it might work atselby11:47
instabinrichb: yes but i modified to to use the nv driver so i could get it back up and running11:47
atselbyhopefully.. It was a nice app.11:47
richbinstabin: Could you post the Xorg.log too?11:47
Woody_yes, atselby :)11:47
atiredmachineAnybody have any ideas?11:48
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instabinrichb: pastebin.com is not working11:49
instabinrichb do you have some where else i can paste it11:49
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Woody_instabin: you can use: http://paste.uni.cc/11:49
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instabinrichb: here his the xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16172/11:50
instabinwhere is the xorg.log11:50
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|NewUser|is there any version of opera browser in fiesty ?11:51
richb/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old11:51
|NewUser|!opera11:51
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser11:51
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Woody_!poker11:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about poker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:52
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instabinrichb: here his the xorg.log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16173/11:53
Worrumhello, i'm having NetworkManager/wpa_supplicant related troubles and i wonder if anyone were to help me11:53
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Woody_does beryl/compiz slow up the pc?11:53
nomasteryodano11:53
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cavediverHi.11:54
instabinWoddy_: slows my old athlon 1ghz with 512 mg and a 5700 geforce down a tiny bit11:54
nomasteryodai'm using it on a dell laptop Woody_ and has 8mb video ram... you might see some issues with rendering movies and GL stuff, but you can simply turn off via the tray icon11:54
cavediverWhere can i read more on the new "managent interface" for 7.04 server ?11:54
Woody_instabin: my 2.4GHZ 512 mg Geforce 4 also is slowed down11:55
richbinstabin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=234305611:55
Worrumi can't seem to get NetworkManager start wpa_supplicant with a config, it just uses wext as driver and no config what so ever11:55
cavediverAnd will there be options for installing virtual machines in the installation ?11:55
tomaszI'm back all happy and cheering! After reading launchpad.net i've fixed it. Now there is a question where to report my solution to help others?11:55
instabinrichb thanks11:55
tomaszI'm back all happy and cheering! After reading launchpad.net i've fixed it. Now there is a question where to report my solution to help others?11:55
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leth_Hey hey, has anyone got time to help me with dvd playback?11:56
leth_I (think i) have the right mediubuntu stuff installed, but i can't get anything to play anything beyond the copyright disclaimer11:57
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atiredmachineHow do I get mysql to run at start up?11:58
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richbatiredmachine: It should have an init script.11:59
richb/etc/init.d11:59
atiredmachineyeah, /etc/init.d/mysql start11:59
atiredmachineif I put that in the terminal it runs, but I always have to do it manually11:59
richbAhh, you can do something like: sudo update-rc.d somescript defaults12:00
richbIf you wish it to start at boot time.12:01
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Tom__ghi all, anyone managed to get aiglx running with an r300/350 chipset? im getting crazy graphical curruption here12:03
leth_atiredmachine: forgive me if i'm completely wrong, but is it not under System - Administration - Services?12:04
leth_as Database something...12:04
richbTom__g: ubuntu-effects might be better12:04
Tom__grichb : ok thanks ill try it12:05
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leth_anyone able to give me some pointers on dvd playback?12:05
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HOThey folks, anyone have a bullet proof setup tutorial for vmware workstation on fiesty?12:05
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atiredmachineleth_, you are very correct!  I wonder why it wasn't on by default.12:07
leth_hehe, for once the GUI way works :P :)12:08
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atoponcei hear that feisty might be late? any truth behind the rumour?12:09
mc44it may be, it may not12:09
mc44there is no further information12:09
Worrumanyone know how to load a wpa_supplicant conf when using the NetworkManager?12:09
richbGoing to go watch the cricket high(low)lights, nn all12:10
atoponcemc44: ok. just thought i'd check. it's got two days though, right... the 19th, i think?12:10
mc44atoponce: yep. There are final image candidates in testing atm12:10
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atoponcemc44: cool. thx12:11
leth_I'm getting odd keyboard problems over vnc, anyone else?12:12
leth_i can't send pipes or some other chars12:12
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leth_it's a windows client, but i remember it working fine before12:12
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VirhYl3Installed updates, rebooted, lost the bar at the bottom with the clock and everything in it.12:16
leth_yup, same wierdness with an osx client12:17
VirhYl3Figured out how to boot Avant Dock thingy, so at least I can drive around.12:17
VirhYl3Actually, this is how I'd rather run, but I don't think it was supposed to crash like that.12:18
CarlFKis there an easy way to set feisty to connect wifi before a user logs in to X?12:19
leth_CarlFK: manually set the wireless settings?12:20
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leth_CarlFK: System - Admin.. - Network12:20
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atiredmachineHey, so anybody got any ideas why my system freezes up occasionally (mouse still moves and music still plays, but nothing else budges).. usually lasts only a few seconds, usually while using Firefox, one time it didn't come out of it and alt-ctrl-d*'s didn't work or anything12:22
|NewUser|how can i take backup of this folder ? " /var/cache/apt " i want this this apt folder with all folders and files in it.. want to backup on another drive or place ? for some reason i just installed fiesty in new machine and i dont have internet there.. so this is my all update and download packages there.. anyone can help ?12:23
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